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“The Moon and the Ghetto” Revisited
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An enormous but seldom acknowledged paradox exists in American race relations. On the one hand, white America has gone to extraordinary lengths to help blacks: billions spent on anti-poverty programs and education; enacting countless anti-discrimination laws; interpreting laws and legal doctrines to give African Americans every possible advantage, obsessing over diversity and if these measures were insufficient, there’s the self-flagellation of whites confessing to bigotry, white privilege and, most recently, micro-aggressions. And let’s not forget the plague of Political Correctness—speech codes, covering up black-on-white crime, taboos topics galore—and similar measures designed to insulate blacks from hate.

Nevertheless, the vitriol that blacks direct toward whites seems only to grow stronger. This animus, moreover, emanates from all segments of black society, from the most advantaged Ivy League students to poorly educated, inarticulate rioters. Think Ta-Nehisi Coats, Cornell West and similar “intellectuals” who earn handsome livelihoods excoriating whites. This message is remarkably uniform: America is a repressive, racist society that continuously kills innocent blacks and refuses to let up despite superficial gestures to the contrary. How else can you explain the demands for “safe spaces”? A visiting Martian would surmise that contemporary American blacks live under a government far worse than what existed in apartheid South Africa.

Tellingly, no amount of effort by whites to convince blacks of their good fortune and amazing progress, e.g., a black President, a black Attorney General etc. etc. cools the anger. One can only be reminded of British Prime Minister William Gladstone sitting in his Club reading The Times and being informed that a man was going about London telling the most awful lies about him. “I don’t understand it,” he said, “I never once did the man a favor.”

As per Gladstone’s quip, let me try to explain this paradox. It is “The Moon and the Ghetto” phenomenon and while it drew some attention in the late 1960s and early 70s, it is worth reviving. Its gist is a question: how can a society capable of astonishing technical accomplishment fail to achieve far simpler and less costly tasks? The contradiction applies broadly but put in terms of American race relations, the question is why a government can send a man to the moon but is unable to teach every black youngster in Detroit’s public schools to read? After all, moon shots required genuine rocket scientists and the investment of billions, while past successful efforts at imparting literacy only needed school teachers working for a pittance.

The “Moon and Ghetto” explanation rests on three implicit assumptions. First and foremost, all the problems that bedevil blacks are caused by whites and given white domination of American society, whites are responsible for curing these tribulations. Only whites can figure out how to educate black children, uplift blacks from poverty or any other item on the black agenda. Like some god, whites are all-powerful and doubters need only observe awe-inspiring white accomplishments.

The corollary of this dependency is that blacks must use coercion, especially political pressure, to galvanize whites to act. Predictably, blacks have embraced elections as the key weapon to achieve racial equality and that anything that conceivably undermines this tactic, e.g., requiring a government issued ID to vote, is met with passionate opposition. This pressure whitey mentality can also produce seemingly illogical behavior, for example, Black Lives Matter (BLM) activists disrupting upscale white holiday shoppers in downtown Chicago so as to hobble the police from cracking down on black-on-black violence. The mentality is so ingrained that nobody would possibly suggest that BLM activists direct their ire at the black gangs who actually commit this intra-racial violence. How these shoppers, many of whom live outside of Chicago, or the disrupted merchants, could produce the desired outcome is never discussed. Put as a slogan, these black activists are the most fervent believers in “White Power.”

Second, what whites accomplish for fellow whites can likewise be accomplished for blacks given that both whites and blacks, outside of superficial differences like skin color, are identical in intelligence, motivation, personal habits and all else that determines success. In the case of education, that whites have long demonstrated an ability to educate disadvantaged whites surely demonstrates that they can educate similarly disadvantage black children. Moreover, this white knack is far reaching—whites know how to get their offspring to score high on the SAT, gain admittance to elite colleges, graduate with degrees in cognitively demanding fields and become lawyers and doctors. Yes, blacks may be unaware of the mechanics of this accomplishment, but it is axiomatic that whites know how to do it.

Third, the argument that white accomplishments are often beyond reach for blacks is just a ruse offered by evil whites to hinder black advancement. This mendacity is the very essence of white racism–whites want to monopolize well-paying jobs for themselves so they invent explanations such as biological differences in intelligence or the pathologies of black families. “White privilege” perfectly captures this belief as if whites possess secret codes to unlock the cornucopia of benefits and with sufficient pressure from African Americans, can share this advantage.

The Moon and the Ghetto vision artfully helps explain growing black frustration despite all signs of seemingly helpful white efforts to promote racial equality. And compounding this frustration, the repertoire of pressuring tactics is nearly exhausted. Surely, if the election of a black president (and black mayors, governments and other officials) cannot get whites to grant equality, what remains? Will yet more riots, protest marches and the like do the trick? Probably not. No doubt, it is this exasperation that drives the resentment of people like well-paid ($114 million over six years) San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernick (and several other professional football players) who sincerely protest the oppression daily suffered by American blacks. At least from Colin’s vantage point, if a half-century of black activism, including notable electoral successes, can barely close innumerable race-related gaps, it surely follows that the force of white resistance must be truly immense though, like gravity, invisible to see.

Thus understood, future US race relations will grow even more contentious as government uplift efforts yet again fail: a black affirmative action admittee will try majoring in a STEM field and if he survives those hurdles (unlikely) and graduates, he continue as a diversity hire until he can go no further, so voilà this gift will be scored “a failure” undoubtedly attributed to white racism, discrimination and similar white acts of racism. So get ready for yet more Ta-Nehisi Coates to condemn whites for holding them down. Eventually the “Moon and the Ghetto” will be updated to “Mars and the Ghetto” in recognition that white Americans can send astronauts Mars but is still unable to close the racial gap in education, jobs, crime, and whatever else is on the civil rights agenda.

 
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    I recently watched a show on the Australian Broadcasting Channel about the San people’s genetics. The host of the show, a lanky, goofy, white do-gooder, laughed in agreement when one of the San people exclaimed his genetic superiority to ‘whites’. This became a theme of the show going forward. Later in the show, I learned that white people’s genetics were ‘impoverished’, and that white people lacked genetic adaptions that San people had, thus making them superior to white people… I don’t think it ever occurred to the white presenter that white people had adaptions that San people lacked (other than adaptions to diseases).

    After building up just how better San people’s genetics were to white people’s, the host said that race didn’t actually exist… and he said it like it was a shocking revelation, and not like something we had heard hundreds and hundreds of times…

    • Replies: @Jim
    Amazing - On the hand there is no difference between the San and whites since "race doesn't exist" but in virtually the same breath it is said that the San are genetically superior to whites.

    How can the genetics of white people be impoverished but racial differences are non-existent?
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  2. “Nevertheless, the vitriol that blacks direct toward whites seems only to grow stronger.”

    You mean, like the below:

    From a Black Lives Matter organizer / leader (Ashleigh Shackelford) “For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests”

    http://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/white-people-blacklivesmatter-protests

    Nothing you have is yours. Let me be clear: Nothing you have is yours. Also, let me be see through: Reparations are not donations, because we are not your charity, tax write off, or good deed for the day. You are living off of stolen resources, stolen land, exploited labor, appropriated culture and the murder of our people. Nothing you have is yours.

    We need housing, transportation, food, clothes, free space for meetings and work space; we need laptops, cell phones, encrypted systems for communication, solar power and LAND. Stop playing. Y’all really thought pulling up to the protest in your Hyundai was gonna be enough? Nah. You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable.

    If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?

    • Replies: @Laugh Track

    If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?
     
    Correct answer: "No."
    , @old okie
    "If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?"

    Uh...no.
    , @BenKenobi

    Nothing you have is yours
     
    Um, how's about molon labe, maybe?

    Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad. Keep declaring war on Whitey, geniuses.

    Peak negro has been achieved. They have priced themselves right out of the market.

    If infinity isn't enough, zero will do just fine.
    , @meyou
    If Conservatives/Republicans DEMANDED that unmarried black women be forced to abort their pregnancies, abortion rate would drop. Jessie and Al (and BLM) would be screaming how abusive it is to subject these poor women to such a horrible, barbaric act. I've sent BLM a number of emails asking, do black lives matter in the womb? They never respond.
    , @Bill Jones
    This would be the moment where they officially jumped the shark.... if any of them could water ski.
    , @The Alarmist

    You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable.
     
    There are two possible remedies here: One is outright compensation, which is what BLM would prefer. The other would be to restore them to the same or a comparable position their forebearers were in just before enslavement. Why is the second option never on the table?
  3. It really is the generally low black IQ that matters, whether they like it or not.

    That is the only explanation which makes logical, rational sense.

    Look at Africa, look at blacks wherever they are. It’s the same story.

    The only time blacks can materially ‘advance’ themselves is when it’s at the expense of whites. Same for the browns.

    Cold hard facts.

    • Replies: @Miro23

    It really is the generally low black IQ that matters, whether they like it or not.
     
    I'm not sure that it really matters. There are differences in IQ in other places apart from the Black/White divide, like country/urban people (until recently) or the worker/management divide in any company. The idea is to get a group of people with different skills working together on a common project - it's the commitment that counts.

    Also, it's a question of averages. An individual Black person like Carson can be far ahead of the average White person on IQ and ability.
  4. Incisive as always.

    You might want to do a second proofreading, though. There are a few typos in there, including syntax in the final sentence.

    That online blog weakness aside, I appreciate your take on things. Please continue (and ignore the curiously several naysayers who seem to dog your comments.)

  5. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    If PC says birds don’t fly but you see them flying, what should you believe?

    You say your eyes, but PC says if you trust your eyes, you’re evil and to be exiled.

    A person who follows PC is a bird-watcher who sees birds flying but says he only saw them walk.

  6. BLM is treated here as something real and organic rather than a device to gaslight the goyim; a newish addition to the destabilisaction template.

  7. “. . . White Americans can send astronauts Mars” – I doubt it. NASA is no longer about space exploration for the reasons stated in the article.

  8. “On the one hand, white America has gone to extraordinary length to help blacks: billions spent on anti-poverty programs and education; enacting countless anti-discrimination laws; interpreting laws and legal doctrines to give African Americans every possible advantage, obsessing over diversity and if these measures were insufficient, there’s the self-flagellation of whites confessing to bigotry, white privilege and, most recently, micro-aggressions.”

    Whites have lost trillions because of blacks in America.

  9. A couple of thoughts:

    This is a very good angle to a problem that gets better in some respects and worse in others. Obviously the complexity of this problem tends to be ignored by people on both extremes. One of the mitigating factors that has prevented black people from advancing en masse as people seemed to have expected is that the entire classes of people of which they are a part have regressed: the lower and middle classes. It’s preposterous to expect that blacks would become middle class when the middle class is becoming not middle class. Hudson’s pieces on the FIRE industry are but an introduction.

    Proofreading. I understand that independent media doesn’t have the same resources as professional media, but numerous grammatical errors detract from the credibility of the author for a number of reasons.

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    Anyone who has experienced a failed romance due to the psychological deficiencies or incompatible worldview of the erstwhile partner has the basis for understanding why whites cannot solve the problems of black society, or of blacks in society.

  11. “Thus understood, future US race relations will grow even more contentious as government uplift efforts yet again fail.”

    So stop the uplift efforts and direct them at making a genuinely level playing field for all races with no affirmative action or racial patronage.

    It’s not easy, Blacks have by now built up a whole counter cultural attitude that expects favoritism and rejects personal responsibility, and at the other end of the scale, corrosive Jewish racial patronage is still being unashamedly used to gain and consolidate power inside and outside government.

    Probably the only answer is the one given by Trump, for all American citizens to see themselves as American first and abandon the divisive “multicultural”, “racial pride”, “identity politics” ideas that grew out of 1960′s counter cultural radical liberalism. The idea is to be American first with ones race coming a distant second, which after all was the idea of the famous American “melting pot” that more or less worked up to the late 1960′s.

    It was only partially successful with American Blacks, but it may be more successful with new 21st century attitudes.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    That ship sailed and it's not returning to port. The answer to black and other minority identity politics is white identity politics.
  12. View from afar.

    Interesting article. The stupid lies in ”Black Studies’ or ‘African-American Studies’ (to stay on-topic, won’t mention the other ‘liberal arts’ pushing similar lies by name) don’t help.

    Neither does ‘Ta-Nehisi’ Coates. I have read a few of his columns, he is a very bad writer, I would never read anything more by him.

    Two points.

    The theory that Obama’s books were ghost-writen by Bill Ayers is convincing to me. A quick search will find it.

    My fave de Lillo book, White Noise, works on many levels, and in many parts, but the protagonist being the clueless ‘Hitler Studies’ prof. in some stupid ‘social studies’ faculty, and description of that, really made me laugh.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    I would add to your list "Pan-African Studies" (as well as "intersectionality"). Is this not a recipe for success?

    K........... is an Associate Professor in the Departments of Women's and Gender Studies and Pan-African Studies and the Audre Lorde Chair in Race, Class, Gender, and Sexuality Studies at the University of Louisville.
  13. @Wally
    It really is the generally low black IQ that matters, whether they like it or not.

    That is the only explanation which makes logical, rational sense.

    Look at Africa, look at blacks wherever they are. It's the same story.

    The only time blacks can materially 'advance' themselves is when it's at the expense of whites. Same for the browns.

    Cold hard facts.

    It really is the generally low black IQ that matters, whether they like it or not.

    I’m not sure that it really matters. There are differences in IQ in other places apart from the Black/White divide, like country/urban people (until recently) or the worker/management divide in any company. The idea is to get a group of people with different skills working together on a common project – it’s the commitment that counts.

    Also, it’s a question of averages. An individual Black person like Carson can be far ahead of the average White person on IQ and ability.

    • Replies: @utu
    Which alternative would be more favorable?

    Concerning Blacks:

    (1) What if IQ of Blacks was higher? But they would retain their separate racial/cultural identity.

    (2) What if Blacks were not black and had no separate racial/cultural identity? What if they were just a subset of less intelligent white people?

    Concerning Jews:

    (1) What if IQ of Jews was lower? But they would retain their separate racial/cultural identity.

    (2) What if Jews were not Jewish and had no separate racial/cultural identity? What if they were just a subset of more intelligent white people?
    _____________

    My answer in both case is (2). Low or high IQ just exacerbates the problems that are cultural. It is all about culture not about IQ.
    , @Wally
    The black IQ is generally drastically lower, it's not mere "differences".

    Of course there are exceptions, nobody said there wasn't, hence my use of 'generally'. But those rare exceptions are, well rare exceptions.

    Look at Africa, look at blacks wherever they are. It’s the same story.
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    That 1.1 sd difference in average IQs between the USA's Whites and Negroes is real and all the evidence suggests it is largely genetic and currently irremediable. To put this in a different light, about 85% of Negroes have below national-average intelligence. Only about 5% of Negroes are capable of benefiting in any meaningful way from a real college or university level education.

    But just as important are personality traits that seem to differ in a systematic way between the White and Negro races. There is mow a large corpus of research on human personality traits. These can be reduced to a small number of dimensions, e.g., the OCEAN system. When this is done and standard techniques are used to measure whether personality traits are inherited the evidence is again overwhelming that they are.

    Anybody who's had a broad experience working with both Negroes and Whites soon realizes that, although there are many individual exceptions, overall there are profound differences in the characters of Whites and Negroes. The latter have far less self-control, far less ability to think ahead, far more emotional lability, and a vastly over-inflated amour propre. These traits, as much as, if not more than, intelligence as measured by IQ are always going to maintain inequality between the races.

    , @unadorned
    "I’m not sure that it really matters."

    It does really matter. Until differences in intelligence are acknowledged white racism will be viewed as the main cause of disparity between blacks and whites.
  14. A farmer looks out on his field and sees wild horses grazing upon his crop. He can either corral the horses and harness them to increase his production or drive them off his land. What he cannot do is to allow the horses to do as they wish which is eat the farmers crops and remain wild.

    This is the dilemma the negro imposes on the rest of humanity. The negro wants to enjoy the benefits of and pretend he is a co-owner of a joint enterprise but is not willing to accept his subordinate role in the enterprise. He prefers to be the wild animal in the farmers field eating his fill but contributing nothing!

    • Replies: @Wally
    Nailed it.

    And that's why the jails are filled with mostly blacks & browns.
    , @bomag
    POC usually just tell me straight to my face, in so many words, that they are here to fill slots in the welfare state; that they are entitled; a lower class aristocracy.
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Great analogy.
  15. Everyone always makes a good case for white supremacists. White supremacists don’t get elected to public office, therefore they don’t start wars in foreign lands. They don’t overthrow the dictators in foreign lands to help the poor brown people. Could you imagine the Aryan Brotherhood wanting to overthrow the government of Syria to bring democracy to their people? But if they had been elected our borders would always be secure! You don’t get any more humble than the Amish.
    The writer writes as though millions of people have read that book and believe in it, unlike the million who have read the Bible , or the Koran
    White supremacists would not be proselytizing around the world to bring people of color into their fold and become part of their flock.
    You should stop blaming white supremacists for the way things are, because if it were really white supremacy things would be different. It’s unfortunate that most white supremacists are mislead toward violence usually by wrong headed whites who have strong ties to the government. Does that sound like a book the Christian Identity movement would take to heart, do you see the Amish doing that?
    So look again at why things are the way they are, thanks.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The simplest rule in the world for fixing anything is that if doing X produces Y, the first thing to do to stop Y is do X-not.

    In the absence of a firm understanding of the problem, it's the first thing to try.

    Mollycoddling blacks and kowtowing to their every desire is exactly like responding to a misbehaving child by giving him more of what he wants. Misbehaving even more is then the obvious way he has to get even more of what he wants.

    Blacks are low IQ, short time preference, and generally highly herd minded people. Isn't that what adolescents are as compared to adults?

    Whites responding to blacks, collectively, as an effective and competent parent responds to a rebellious and disrespectful child would achieve similar results.

    Nothing, to me, could be more obvious.

    As for the Amish, they aren't humble at all, in my experience. They privately see themselves as better than the "English", their word for goyim/gaijin/gajo. They have the true knowledge of Christian salvation, but do not evangelize, preferring the streets of Heaven not too encumbered by anything but Amish buggies. However, the Amish are not causing trouble here on Earth, and do business with the English honestly: they are not asking for charity and have zero desire to have others do as they do. Would that certain other self-chosen groups did the same!
  16. @Miro23

    It really is the generally low black IQ that matters, whether they like it or not.
     
    I'm not sure that it really matters. There are differences in IQ in other places apart from the Black/White divide, like country/urban people (until recently) or the worker/management divide in any company. The idea is to get a group of people with different skills working together on a common project - it's the commitment that counts.

    Also, it's a question of averages. An individual Black person like Carson can be far ahead of the average White person on IQ and ability.

    Which alternative would be more favorable?

    Concerning Blacks:

    (1) What if IQ of Blacks was higher? But they would retain their separate racial/cultural identity.

    (2) What if Blacks were not black and had no separate racial/cultural identity? What if they were just a subset of less intelligent white people?

    Concerning Jews:

    (1) What if IQ of Jews was lower? But they would retain their separate racial/cultural identity.

    (2) What if Jews were not Jewish and had no separate racial/cultural identity? What if they were just a subset of more intelligent white people?
    _____________

    My answer in both case is (2). Low or high IQ just exacerbates the problems that are cultural. It is all about culture not about IQ.

    • Agree: jake
    • Replies: @Miro23
    I would agree with that, that it's a cultural problem.

    But BTW, on PISA international academic tests (maths, reading, science) Israel ranks 41st at the level of Greece and Turkey, and well below the European average. Shanghai-China come 1st in all categories with the U.S. at 36th, but it's not clear to what extent the results come from differing cultural attitudes.

    Ashkenazi Jews may score higher, but in my opinion their advancement in the U.S. comes mainly from racial patronage. Racial activism works. If Gentiles hire on merit or diversity and Jews hire on race, over time Gentiles are excluded from key power positions in government , the media, industry, academia and the professions.
  17. @Miro23

    "Thus understood, future US race relations will grow even more contentious as government uplift efforts yet again fail."
     
    So stop the uplift efforts and direct them at making a genuinely level playing field for all races with no affirmative action or racial patronage.

    It's not easy, Blacks have by now built up a whole counter cultural attitude that expects favoritism and rejects personal responsibility, and at the other end of the scale, corrosive Jewish racial patronage is still being unashamedly used to gain and consolidate power inside and outside government.

    Probably the only answer is the one given by Trump, for all American citizens to see themselves as American first and abandon the divisive "multicultural", "racial pride", "identity politics" ideas that grew out of 1960's counter cultural radical liberalism. The idea is to be American first with ones race coming a distant second, which after all was the idea of the famous American "melting pot" that more or less worked up to the late 1960's.

    It was only partially successful with American Blacks, but it may be more successful with new 21st century attitudes.

    That ship sailed and it’s not returning to port. The answer to black and other minority identity politics is white identity politics.

  18. @Miro23

    It really is the generally low black IQ that matters, whether they like it or not.
     
    I'm not sure that it really matters. There are differences in IQ in other places apart from the Black/White divide, like country/urban people (until recently) or the worker/management divide in any company. The idea is to get a group of people with different skills working together on a common project - it's the commitment that counts.

    Also, it's a question of averages. An individual Black person like Carson can be far ahead of the average White person on IQ and ability.

    The black IQ is generally drastically lower, it’s not mere “differences”.

    Of course there are exceptions, nobody said there wasn’t, hence my use of ‘generally’. But those rare exceptions are, well rare exceptions.

    Look at Africa, look at blacks wherever they are. It’s the same story.

    • Replies: @europeasant
    Exactly; One reading of "The Bell Curve" is all it will take someone to become convinced.
    Okay,maybe not the brainwashed!
  19. @Unit472
    A farmer looks out on his field and sees wild horses grazing upon his crop. He can either corral the horses and harness them to increase his production or drive them off his land. What he cannot do is to allow the horses to do as they wish which is eat the farmers crops and remain wild.

    This is the dilemma the negro imposes on the rest of humanity. The negro wants to enjoy the benefits of and pretend he is a co-owner of a joint enterprise but is not willing to accept his subordinate role in the enterprise. He prefers to be the wild animal in the farmers field eating his fill but contributing nothing!

    Nailed it.

    And that’s why the jails are filled with mostly blacks & browns.

  20. @utu
    Which alternative would be more favorable?

    Concerning Blacks:

    (1) What if IQ of Blacks was higher? But they would retain their separate racial/cultural identity.

    (2) What if Blacks were not black and had no separate racial/cultural identity? What if they were just a subset of less intelligent white people?

    Concerning Jews:

    (1) What if IQ of Jews was lower? But they would retain their separate racial/cultural identity.

    (2) What if Jews were not Jewish and had no separate racial/cultural identity? What if they were just a subset of more intelligent white people?
    _____________

    My answer in both case is (2). Low or high IQ just exacerbates the problems that are cultural. It is all about culture not about IQ.

    I would agree with that, that it’s a cultural problem.

    But BTW, on PISA international academic tests (maths, reading, science) Israel ranks 41st at the level of Greece and Turkey, and well below the European average. Shanghai-China come 1st in all categories with the U.S. at 36th, but it’s not clear to what extent the results come from differing cultural attitudes.

    Ashkenazi Jews may score higher, but in my opinion their advancement in the U.S. comes mainly from racial patronage. Racial activism works. If Gentiles hire on merit or diversity and Jews hire on race, over time Gentiles are excluded from key power positions in government , the media, industry, academia and the professions.

    • Replies: @utu
    The false gospel of IQ promoted by VDare, Charles Murray, Steve Sailer... is the dead end street. Its only purpose is to accept the ethnic hierarchy in the US that Blacks are on the bottom and Jews are not the top as unavoidable and just. The only beneficiaries of this gospel are Jews.
    , @Rick Johnson
    Racial (or other exclusive) patronage has clear advantages. If Koreans in L.A. combine their capital to finance a new business by other Koreans, it becomes a business that might not have otherwise begun. And they will restrictively PATRONIZE the output of that business, but will accept customers from the broad population. So, they take in money from the general population, but expend only among themselves. Over time, this builds capital in a narrow demographic to the exclusion of the wide demographic. Slowly but surely, this minute transfer of capital from the external to the internal takes place and creates an advantaged class.
    , @Anonymous
    Ashkenazi Jews are less than half of the Israeli population. The large number of Mizrahi Jews and Israeli Arabs bring down Israel's scores.
    , @jake
    I think it rather obvious that Jews do have a higher IQ average than white Gentiles, but it is not nearly as dramatic as that between whites and blacks. I think you are correct that the strong Jewish propensity to promote Jews every day, all day makes a huge difference.

    That is especially true when you think of white Gentiles harming other white Gentiles, say, starting with the way the Germans see Slavs as inherently inferior and the way the English see Celts as inherently inferior.

    Put the two together, and you get our world, in which rich WASPs seem always allied with Jews against the majority of white Gentiles. And both of them - Jews and rich WASPs - love to promote blacks over all 'other' whites.
  21. @CCZ
    “Nevertheless, the vitriol that blacks direct toward whites seems only to grow stronger.”

    You mean, like the below:


    From a Black Lives Matter organizer / leader (Ashleigh Shackelford) “For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests”

    http://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/white-people-blacklivesmatter-protests

    Nothing you have is yours. Let me be clear: Nothing you have is yours. Also, let me be see through: Reparations are not donations, because we are not your charity, tax write off, or good deed for the day. You are living off of stolen resources, stolen land, exploited labor, appropriated culture and the murder of our people. Nothing you have is yours.

    We need housing, transportation, food, clothes, free space for meetings and work space; we need laptops, cell phones, encrypted systems for communication, solar power and LAND. Stop playing. Y’all really thought pulling up to the protest in your Hyundai was gonna be enough? Nah. You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable.

    If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?
     

    If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?

    Correct answer: “No.”

  22. @CCZ
    “Nevertheless, the vitriol that blacks direct toward whites seems only to grow stronger.”

    You mean, like the below:


    From a Black Lives Matter organizer / leader (Ashleigh Shackelford) “For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests”

    http://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/white-people-blacklivesmatter-protests

    Nothing you have is yours. Let me be clear: Nothing you have is yours. Also, let me be see through: Reparations are not donations, because we are not your charity, tax write off, or good deed for the day. You are living off of stolen resources, stolen land, exploited labor, appropriated culture and the murder of our people. Nothing you have is yours.

    We need housing, transportation, food, clothes, free space for meetings and work space; we need laptops, cell phones, encrypted systems for communication, solar power and LAND. Stop playing. Y’all really thought pulling up to the protest in your Hyundai was gonna be enough? Nah. You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable.

    If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?
     

    “If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?”

    Uh…no.

  23. @Miro23

    It really is the generally low black IQ that matters, whether they like it or not.
     
    I'm not sure that it really matters. There are differences in IQ in other places apart from the Black/White divide, like country/urban people (until recently) or the worker/management divide in any company. The idea is to get a group of people with different skills working together on a common project - it's the commitment that counts.

    Also, it's a question of averages. An individual Black person like Carson can be far ahead of the average White person on IQ and ability.

    That 1.1 sd difference in average IQs between the USA’s Whites and Negroes is real and all the evidence suggests it is largely genetic and currently irremediable. To put this in a different light, about 85% of Negroes have below national-average intelligence. Only about 5% of Negroes are capable of benefiting in any meaningful way from a real college or university level education.

    But just as important are personality traits that seem to differ in a systematic way between the White and Negro races. There is mow a large corpus of research on human personality traits. These can be reduced to a small number of dimensions, e.g., the OCEAN system. When this is done and standard techniques are used to measure whether personality traits are inherited the evidence is again overwhelming that they are.

    Anybody who’s had a broad experience working with both Negroes and Whites soon realizes that, although there are many individual exceptions, overall there are profound differences in the characters of Whites and Negroes. The latter have far less self-control, far less ability to think ahead, far more emotional lability, and a vastly over-inflated amour propre. These traits, as much as, if not more than, intelligence as measured by IQ are always going to maintain inequality between the races.

    • Replies: @Wally
    It's late, you're driving home, your car breaks down, you forgot your phone, you need to walk some distance to a public place to seek assistance.

    Where would you rather be, in a black neighborhood or a white neighborhood?

  24. Blacks will never outlive the stereotypes of being less intelligent, less industrious, less civilized, etc., until they get stop whining about the past and move forward in this, the only country in the world that offers so much advancement for everyone. In fact, blacks today have more opportunities than whites because there are many companies required to fill positions with minorities, to the exclusion of the majority race. Now there’s an example of discrimination that we don’t hear blacks complaining about.

    When Barack Obama was elected many blacks figured that would usher in a new paradigm in which the entire race would be lifted to levels of success never before experienced. They soon learned that no one can make another person successful without a lot of effort on the part of the individual seeking it. People of any color will seek out friends and associates based on how safe they feel being in close proximity to them. If blacks continue to be viewed as violence-prone street thugs looking for every excuse to riot, loot and burn, they will forever be segregated from those who want peace and security.

  25. @Miro23
    I would agree with that, that it's a cultural problem.

    But BTW, on PISA international academic tests (maths, reading, science) Israel ranks 41st at the level of Greece and Turkey, and well below the European average. Shanghai-China come 1st in all categories with the U.S. at 36th, but it's not clear to what extent the results come from differing cultural attitudes.

    Ashkenazi Jews may score higher, but in my opinion their advancement in the U.S. comes mainly from racial patronage. Racial activism works. If Gentiles hire on merit or diversity and Jews hire on race, over time Gentiles are excluded from key power positions in government , the media, industry, academia and the professions.

    The false gospel of IQ promoted by VDare, Charles Murray, Steve Sailer… is the dead end street. Its only purpose is to accept the ethnic hierarchy in the US that Blacks are on the bottom and Jews are not the top as unavoidable and just. The only beneficiaries of this gospel are Jews.

    • Disagree: melendwyr
    • Replies: @phil
    1. Blacks score lower than other macro-races on backwards-digits tests--a culture-free test.
    2. Blacks have slower decision-making times for even the simplest mental tasks.
    3. The average brain size of blacks is lower.
    4. The heritability of intelligence within the black population is just as high as it is in the white population
    5. Blacks score even worse on culture-reduced tests than they do on culturally-loaded tests.

    Cultural differences do not do much to account for IQ differences across races. IQ differences help to account for cultural differences across races.
  26. the problem is people tend to form ghettos. they are the super toxic kind of community. stewing in it’s own juices. hell, just talking to some of them will tell you that just to get out of the stranglehold of the ghettos is a life time achievement.

    the welfare trap isn’t doing any favors either. oh you wanna get your life back on track? no help for you!!! you want help? stay as you are. that is why basic income could do wonders for people who wants to get out of the trap.

  27. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Section 8 will spread the thuggery around

    A lot of cultures are restrained and people customarily watch what they say.

    American culture has been more forthright and candid. More open and expressive.

    That explains why PC is used to shut certain voices since the American Way is to say what’s on one’s mind.

    • Replies: @Wally
    per the video:

    "Young men" ... right.

    Why are onlookers "surprised"?

    All the stolen devices are traceable.
    Not too bright these "young men".

    No Hillary, whites are correctly not incarcerated at the same rate as blacks.

    A white man usually doesn't have the same long record of crimes, especially violent crimes as the black thug.
    It's a person's history of crime and acts of violence which results in their incarceration.
  28. The liberal solution to white ‘racism’ is court-ordered integration and the denial of race differences. This counter-intuitive ideology is a Trojan horse.

    Coerced integration has damaged white America and undermined the racial cohesion that propelled the growth and expansion or our extraordinary, white-dominated, English-speaking civilization.

    True to form, Hollywood is actively promoting racial miscegenation and non-white immigration into America. They want to hasten the decline of America’s shrinking, white majority.

    Can you image Jews promoting this view among themselves?

    Does Israel advance the idea of integration as a solution to the Jewish-Arab impasse within Israel? Of course not. Israel takes the very opposite approach.

    Israel is a defiantly ‘Jewish State’ with a native population of non-Jews who are targeted for isolation and expulsion. Segregation between Jews and Gentiles is a core Zionist value.

    Powerful Jews in NY/Hollywood on the other hand are glamorizing miscegenation (for whites, not Jews) and excoriating whites who dare to think that white genetic continuity is worth preserving. The false ‘whites are equal to blacks’ ideology is a vehicle for back-door genocide. Jews foist this value on whites, not other Jews.

    Thus Jewish Hollywood will never let up on denouncing ‘white racism’, even though these same taste-makers champion the idea of ‘Jewish continuity’ and an exclusive ‘Jewish State’ where intermarriage is forbidden.

    Whites are being targeted by Hollywood into buying the injurious idea that mixed-race children are healthy for white families, the white community, and our European-derived civilization. This is devious act of war.

    • Agree: Ace, KenH
    • Replies: @Wally
    That's why 'Israel' was created / stolen.

    To see to it that Jews maintained a 'Jews only' region while they demand that euro-whites do the opposite. And to provide a safe haven for criminal Jews.

    fact:
    In Israel only Jew immigrants are accepted.

    That's why supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

  29. @Wally
    The black IQ is generally drastically lower, it's not mere "differences".

    Of course there are exceptions, nobody said there wasn't, hence my use of 'generally'. But those rare exceptions are, well rare exceptions.

    Look at Africa, look at blacks wherever they are. It’s the same story.

    Exactly; One reading of “The Bell Curve” is all it will take someone to become convinced.
    Okay,maybe not the brainwashed!

  30. If America had been an overwhelmingly black country, it would never have sent a man to the moon. In fact, its GDP per capita would be closer to that of Haiti than today’s value.

  31. @Jus' Sayin'...
    That 1.1 sd difference in average IQs between the USA's Whites and Negroes is real and all the evidence suggests it is largely genetic and currently irremediable. To put this in a different light, about 85% of Negroes have below national-average intelligence. Only about 5% of Negroes are capable of benefiting in any meaningful way from a real college or university level education.

    But just as important are personality traits that seem to differ in a systematic way between the White and Negro races. There is mow a large corpus of research on human personality traits. These can be reduced to a small number of dimensions, e.g., the OCEAN system. When this is done and standard techniques are used to measure whether personality traits are inherited the evidence is again overwhelming that they are.

    Anybody who's had a broad experience working with both Negroes and Whites soon realizes that, although there are many individual exceptions, overall there are profound differences in the characters of Whites and Negroes. The latter have far less self-control, far less ability to think ahead, far more emotional lability, and a vastly over-inflated amour propre. These traits, as much as, if not more than, intelligence as measured by IQ are always going to maintain inequality between the races.

    It’s late, you’re driving home, your car breaks down, you forgot your phone, you need to walk some distance to a public place to seek assistance.

    Where would you rather be, in a black neighborhood or a white neighborhood?

  32. @Mark Green
    The liberal solution to white 'racism' is court-ordered integration and the denial of race differences. This counter-intuitive ideology is a Trojan horse.

    Coerced integration has damaged white America and undermined the racial cohesion that propelled the growth and expansion or our extraordinary, white-dominated, English-speaking civilization.

    True to form, Hollywood is actively promoting racial miscegenation and non-white immigration into America. They want to hasten the decline of America's shrinking, white majority.

    Can you image Jews promoting this view among themselves?

    Does Israel advance the idea of integration as a solution to the Jewish-Arab impasse within Israel? Of course not. Israel takes the very opposite approach.

    Israel is a defiantly 'Jewish State' with a native population of non-Jews who are targeted for isolation and expulsion. Segregation between Jews and Gentiles is a core Zionist value.

    Powerful Jews in NY/Hollywood on the other hand are glamorizing miscegenation (for whites, not Jews) and excoriating whites who dare to think that white genetic continuity is worth preserving. The false 'whites are equal to blacks' ideology is a vehicle for back-door genocide. Jews foist this value on whites, not other Jews.

    Thus Jewish Hollywood will never let up on denouncing 'white racism', even though these same taste-makers champion the idea of 'Jewish continuity' and an exclusive 'Jewish State' where intermarriage is forbidden.

    Whites are being targeted by Hollywood into buying the injurious idea that mixed-race children are healthy for white families, the white community, and our European-derived civilization. This is devious act of war.

    That’s why ‘Israel’ was created / stolen.

    To see to it that Jews maintained a ‘Jews only’ region while they demand that euro-whites do the opposite. And to provide a safe haven for criminal Jews.

    fact:
    In Israel only Jew immigrants are accepted.

    That’s why supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869?

  33. When I think of “The Moon and the ghetto,” I think of “Mars and the ghetto”; we could’ve gone to Mars, but we chose to pour the money down the drain (ghetto) instead.

    Second, what whites accomplish for fellow whites can likewise be accomplished for blacks given that both whites and blacks, outside of superficial differences like skin color, are identical in intelligence, motivation, personal habits and all else that determines success.

    Gotta be looney tunes to believe this; willfully ignorant and arrogant in the case of Yankee-Judeans, and just plain nuts in the case of anyone with any actual experience living near black populations.

    Third, the argument that white accomplishments are often beyond reach for blacks is just a ruse offered by evil whites to hinder black advancement. This mendacity is the very essence of white racism–whites want to monopolize well-paying jobs for themselves so they invent explanations such as biological differences in intelligence or the pathologies of black families. “White privilege” perfectly captures this belief as if whites possess secret codes to unlock the cornucopia of benefits and with sufficient pressure from African Americans, can share this advantage.

    This one is looney tunes, too. As if the economy’s just a pie, to be chopped up and shared out. In reality, the economy is an oven, that bakes pizzas. If blacks added to the oven’s size, bigger pizzas could be baked.

    More to the point, race-realism is a moral duty of all good people. Leftists have falsely accused the white race of causing blacks’ “misfortune” (an absurd evaluation of American blacks’ economic situation, given their position at the very top of the worldwide black economic pyramid). This false accusation makes an airing of race-realism a duty; no good man sits by and watches a man falsely accused, then railroaded through the justice system; if he has exculpatory evidence, he speaks up. The time for “politeness” to ensure his silence has long passed.

    The Moon and the Ghetto vision artfully helps explain growing black frustration despite all signs of seemingly helpful white efforts to promote racial equality.

    So does “animals smell weakness and go for the throat.” (same goes for never-ending leftist demands in general) Doesn’t really pad out an essay, though.

  34. @Unit472
    A farmer looks out on his field and sees wild horses grazing upon his crop. He can either corral the horses and harness them to increase his production or drive them off his land. What he cannot do is to allow the horses to do as they wish which is eat the farmers crops and remain wild.

    This is the dilemma the negro imposes on the rest of humanity. The negro wants to enjoy the benefits of and pretend he is a co-owner of a joint enterprise but is not willing to accept his subordinate role in the enterprise. He prefers to be the wild animal in the farmers field eating his fill but contributing nothing!

    POC usually just tell me straight to my face, in so many words, that they are here to fill slots in the welfare state; that they are entitled; a lower class aristocracy.

    • Replies: @Ace
    "A lower class aristocracy." Whoa. That's choice.
  35. @Anon
    Section 8 will spread the thuggery around

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMG0r4rwCCM

    A lot of cultures are restrained and people customarily watch what they say.

    American culture has been more forthright and candid. More open and expressive.

    That explains why PC is used to shut certain voices since the American Way is to say what's on one's mind.

    per the video:

    “Young men” … right.

    Why are onlookers “surprised”?

    All the stolen devices are traceable.
    Not too bright these “young men”.

    No Hillary, whites are correctly not incarcerated at the same rate as blacks.

    A white man usually doesn’t have the same long record of crimes, especially violent crimes as the black thug.
    It’s a person’s history of crime and acts of violence which results in their incarceration.

  36. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I’m not sure that it really matters.

    I’m not sure your opinion matters. So far, there is no evidence that it does.

    There are differences in IQ in other places apart from the Black/White divide, like country/urban people (until recently) or the worker/management divide in any company. The idea is to get a group of people with different skills working together on a common project – it’s the commitment that counts.

    Kumbayah, my love, kumbayah…

    Blacks blame us for all their problems. In what way should that motivate us to work with them?

    Also, it’s a question of averages. An individual Black person like Carson can be far ahead of the average White person on IQ and ability.

    Yeah, I’m far ahead of Ben Carson in IQ and ability. So what? What is it with you lot, and innumeracy? Blacks are incapable of even sustaining advanced civilization, much less creating it.

    Blacks will never outlive the stereotypes of being less intelligent, less industrious, less civilized, etc., until they get stop whining about the past and move forward in this, the only country in the world that offers so much advancement for everyone. In fact, blacks today have more opportunities than whites because there are many companies required to fill positions with minorities, to the exclusion of the majority race. Now there’s an example of discrimination that we don’t hear blacks complaining about.

    This is loopy delusional egalitarianism, “conservative edition.” Just as wrong as the leftist edition, but not as maliciously motivated.

    The false gospel of IQ promoted by VDare, Charles Murray, Steve Sailer… is the dead end street. Its only purpose is to accept the ethnic hierarchy in the US that Blacks are on the bottom and Jews are not the top as unavoidable and just. The only beneficiaries of this gospel are Jews.

    This is super-loopy. Jews are like an army mobilized to destroy IQ realism. Jews go ape when anyone sheds light on the subject.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs

    "This is super-loopy. Jews are like an army mobilized to destroy IQ realism. Jews go ape when anyone sheds light on the subject."
     
    You mean like the author of this article?
    , @Anonymous
    Ben Carson is certainly more intelligent than the average white person, but I ask: If Carson had been a white man of his IQ, test scores and overall ability, would he have 1) got into med school and 2) got a neurosurgery residency?

    I'm not certain, but I am inclined to think maybe not.
  37. @CCZ
    “Nevertheless, the vitriol that blacks direct toward whites seems only to grow stronger.”

    You mean, like the below:


    From a Black Lives Matter organizer / leader (Ashleigh Shackelford) “For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests”

    http://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/white-people-blacklivesmatter-protests

    Nothing you have is yours. Let me be clear: Nothing you have is yours. Also, let me be see through: Reparations are not donations, because we are not your charity, tax write off, or good deed for the day. You are living off of stolen resources, stolen land, exploited labor, appropriated culture and the murder of our people. Nothing you have is yours.

    We need housing, transportation, food, clothes, free space for meetings and work space; we need laptops, cell phones, encrypted systems for communication, solar power and LAND. Stop playing. Y’all really thought pulling up to the protest in your Hyundai was gonna be enough? Nah. You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable.

    If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?
     

    Nothing you have is yours

    Um, how’s about molon labe, maybe?

    Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad. Keep declaring war on Whitey, geniuses.

    Peak negro has been achieved. They have priced themselves right out of the market.

    If infinity isn’t enough, zero will do just fine.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs

    Peak negro has been achieved
     
    Then why do you quote them, link to them, pay attention to them? If I hadn't read that here, I'd never have known the asshole said it.
  38. @Unit472
    A farmer looks out on his field and sees wild horses grazing upon his crop. He can either corral the horses and harness them to increase his production or drive them off his land. What he cannot do is to allow the horses to do as they wish which is eat the farmers crops and remain wild.

    This is the dilemma the negro imposes on the rest of humanity. The negro wants to enjoy the benefits of and pretend he is a co-owner of a joint enterprise but is not willing to accept his subordinate role in the enterprise. He prefers to be the wild animal in the farmers field eating his fill but contributing nothing!

    Great analogy.

  39. The problem blacks have is low average IQ. The average black IQ is significantly more one SD below the average white IQ.

  40. @Miro23
    I would agree with that, that it's a cultural problem.

    But BTW, on PISA international academic tests (maths, reading, science) Israel ranks 41st at the level of Greece and Turkey, and well below the European average. Shanghai-China come 1st in all categories with the U.S. at 36th, but it's not clear to what extent the results come from differing cultural attitudes.

    Ashkenazi Jews may score higher, but in my opinion their advancement in the U.S. comes mainly from racial patronage. Racial activism works. If Gentiles hire on merit or diversity and Jews hire on race, over time Gentiles are excluded from key power positions in government , the media, industry, academia and the professions.

    Racial (or other exclusive) patronage has clear advantages. If Koreans in L.A. combine their capital to finance a new business by other Koreans, it becomes a business that might not have otherwise begun. And they will restrictively PATRONIZE the output of that business, but will accept customers from the broad population. So, they take in money from the general population, but expend only among themselves. Over time, this builds capital in a narrow demographic to the exclusion of the wide demographic. Slowly but surely, this minute transfer of capital from the external to the internal takes place and creates an advantaged class.

    • Replies: @utu
    Reverse Osmosis: Increasing internal concentration of capital at expense of external concentration.
  41. @anon
    I recently watched a show on the Australian Broadcasting Channel about the San people's genetics. The host of the show, a lanky, goofy, white do-gooder, laughed in agreement when one of the San people exclaimed his genetic superiority to 'whites'. This became a theme of the show going forward. Later in the show, I learned that white people's genetics were 'impoverished', and that white people lacked genetic adaptions that San people had, thus making them superior to white people... I don't think it ever occurred to the white presenter that white people had adaptions that San people lacked (other than adaptions to diseases).

    After building up just how better San people's genetics were to white people's, the host said that race didn't actually exist... and he said it like it was a shocking revelation, and not like something we had heard hundreds and hundreds of times...

    Amazing – On the hand there is no difference between the San and whites since “race doesn’t exist” but in virtually the same breath it is said that the San are genetically superior to whites.

    How can the genetics of white people be impoverished but racial differences are non-existent?

  42. @bomag
    POC usually just tell me straight to my face, in so many words, that they are here to fill slots in the welfare state; that they are entitled; a lower class aristocracy.

    “A lower class aristocracy.” Whoa. That’s choice.

  43. @BenKenobi

    Nothing you have is yours
     
    Um, how's about molon labe, maybe?

    Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad. Keep declaring war on Whitey, geniuses.

    Peak negro has been achieved. They have priced themselves right out of the market.

    If infinity isn't enough, zero will do just fine.

    Peak negro has been achieved

    Then why do you quote them, link to them, pay attention to them? If I hadn’t read that here, I’d never have known the asshole said it.

  44. @utu
    The false gospel of IQ promoted by VDare, Charles Murray, Steve Sailer... is the dead end street. Its only purpose is to accept the ethnic hierarchy in the US that Blacks are on the bottom and Jews are not the top as unavoidable and just. The only beneficiaries of this gospel are Jews.

    1. Blacks score lower than other macro-races on backwards-digits tests–a culture-free test.
    2. Blacks have slower decision-making times for even the simplest mental tasks.
    3. The average brain size of blacks is lower.
    4. The heritability of intelligence within the black population is just as high as it is in the white population
    5. Blacks score even worse on culture-reduced tests than they do on culturally-loaded tests.

    Cultural differences do not do much to account for IQ differences across races. IQ differences help to account for cultural differences across races.

  45. An enormous but seldom acknowledged paradox exists in American race relations. On the one hand, white America has gone to extraordinary lengths to help blacks: billions spent on anti-poverty programs and education; enacting countless anti-discrimination laws; interpreting laws and legal doctrines to give African Americans every possible advantage, obsessing over diversity and if these measures were insufficient, there’s the self-flagellation of whites confessing to bigotry, white privilege and, most recently, micro-aggressions. And let’s not forget the plague of Political Correctness—speech codes, covering up black-on-white crime, taboos topics galore—and similar measures designed to insulate blacks from hate.

    All a simple-minded, and thoroughly mediocre canard.

  46. @Anonymous

    I’m not sure that it really matters.
     
    I'm not sure your opinion matters. So far, there is no evidence that it does.

    There are differences in IQ in other places apart from the Black/White divide, like country/urban people (until recently) or the worker/management divide in any company. The idea is to get a group of people with different skills working together on a common project – it’s the commitment that counts.
     
    Kumbayah, my love, kumbayah...

    Blacks blame us for all their problems. In what way should that motivate us to work with them?

    Also, it’s a question of averages. An individual Black person like Carson can be far ahead of the average White person on IQ and ability.
     
    Yeah, I'm far ahead of Ben Carson in IQ and ability. So what? What is it with you lot, and innumeracy? Blacks are incapable of even sustaining advanced civilization, much less creating it.

    Blacks will never outlive the stereotypes of being less intelligent, less industrious, less civilized, etc., until they get stop whining about the past and move forward in this, the only country in the world that offers so much advancement for everyone. In fact, blacks today have more opportunities than whites because there are many companies required to fill positions with minorities, to the exclusion of the majority race. Now there’s an example of discrimination that we don’t hear blacks complaining about.
     
    This is loopy delusional egalitarianism, "conservative edition." Just as wrong as the leftist edition, but not as maliciously motivated.

    The false gospel of IQ promoted by VDare, Charles Murray, Steve Sailer… is the dead end street. Its only purpose is to accept the ethnic hierarchy in the US that Blacks are on the bottom and Jews are not the top as unavoidable and just. The only beneficiaries of this gospel are Jews.
     
    This is super-loopy. Jews are like an army mobilized to destroy IQ realism. Jews go ape when anyone sheds light on the subject.

    “This is super-loopy. Jews are like an army mobilized to destroy IQ realism. Jews go ape when anyone sheds light on the subject.”

    You mean like the author of this article?

  47. @Rick Johnson
    Racial (or other exclusive) patronage has clear advantages. If Koreans in L.A. combine their capital to finance a new business by other Koreans, it becomes a business that might not have otherwise begun. And they will restrictively PATRONIZE the output of that business, but will accept customers from the broad population. So, they take in money from the general population, but expend only among themselves. Over time, this builds capital in a narrow demographic to the exclusion of the wide demographic. Slowly but surely, this minute transfer of capital from the external to the internal takes place and creates an advantaged class.

    Reverse Osmosis: Increasing internal concentration of capital at expense of external concentration.

  48. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Miro23
    I would agree with that, that it's a cultural problem.

    But BTW, on PISA international academic tests (maths, reading, science) Israel ranks 41st at the level of Greece and Turkey, and well below the European average. Shanghai-China come 1st in all categories with the U.S. at 36th, but it's not clear to what extent the results come from differing cultural attitudes.

    Ashkenazi Jews may score higher, but in my opinion their advancement in the U.S. comes mainly from racial patronage. Racial activism works. If Gentiles hire on merit or diversity and Jews hire on race, over time Gentiles are excluded from key power positions in government , the media, industry, academia and the professions.

    Ashkenazi Jews are less than half of the Israeli population. The large number of Mizrahi Jews and Israeli Arabs bring down Israel’s scores.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    And Ashkenazi Jews are not really all that Jewish. They came from Germany and Eastern Europe, with Chicago Daily News correspondent Edgar Ansel Mowrer writing (in 1933 after 10 years reporting from Germany ) that, " In point of fact, the Jews in Germany were slowly disappearing. Their birth rate was less than the rest of the population. They were being steadily assimilated. For every hundred marriages between full blooded Jews (1928) there were over fifty between Jew and Aryan."

    So Ashkenazi Jews are probably a lot more Germanic and Slavic than they would like to admit. Arabs see them as European colonialists and Ashkenizis don't get on well with Israel's (more Semitic) Sephardic Jews.

    And it's the same with the US's leading African Americans. They're just about all Mestizos the same as Obama.
  49. @Anonymous
    Ashkenazi Jews are less than half of the Israeli population. The large number of Mizrahi Jews and Israeli Arabs bring down Israel's scores.

    And Ashkenazi Jews are not really all that Jewish. They came from Germany and Eastern Europe, with Chicago Daily News correspondent Edgar Ansel Mowrer writing (in 1933 after 10 years reporting from Germany ) that, ” In point of fact, the Jews in Germany were slowly disappearing. Their birth rate was less than the rest of the population. They were being steadily assimilated. For every hundred marriages between full blooded Jews (1928) there were over fifty between Jew and Aryan.”

    So Ashkenazi Jews are probably a lot more Germanic and Slavic than they would like to admit. Arabs see them as European colonialists and Ashkenizis don’t get on well with Israel’s (more Semitic) Sephardic Jews.

    And it’s the same with the US’s leading African Americans. They’re just about all Mestizos the same as Obama.

    • Replies: @Jim
    Genetic studies of Ashkenazi Jews show that they are about 60% European and 40% Middle Eastern. The European component is mostly Southern/Mediterranean European. There is little contribution from Northern Europeans.
  50. Racial preference (patronage) in hiring and business is certainly a way for a race to get ahead.

    The problem is that it denies the whole E Pluribus Unum idea, “Out of many one” , that is the foundational integrationist “melting pot ” idea of the USA.

    Going this way, a country breaks apart like the long lost Austro-Hungarian Empire. The many races of the AHE never really integrated, with each finally trying to gain an ethnic advantage over the others, until what was the AHE is now a whole collection of separate countries, each with its own ethnicity and borders.

    In a bizarre warped way, counter cultural PC liberals have been building a system of racial patronage/preference for Blacks since apparently they can’t build one for themselves – and completely missing the point that it’s the last thing that the US needs. All they are doing is radicalizing the Black population.

  51. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jane Claire
    Everyone always makes a good case for white supremacists. White supremacists don't get elected to public office, therefore they don't start wars in foreign lands. They don't overthrow the dictators in foreign lands to help the poor brown people. Could you imagine the Aryan Brotherhood wanting to overthrow the government of Syria to bring democracy to their people? But if they had been elected our borders would always be secure! You don't get any more humble than the Amish.
    The writer writes as though millions of people have read that book and believe in it, unlike the million who have read the Bible , or the Koran
    White supremacists would not be proselytizing around the world to bring people of color into their fold and become part of their flock.
    You should stop blaming white supremacists for the way things are, because if it were really white supremacy things would be different. It's unfortunate that most white supremacists are mislead toward violence usually by wrong headed whites who have strong ties to the government. Does that sound like a book the Christian Identity movement would take to heart, do you see the Amish doing that?
    So look again at why things are the way they are, thanks.

    The simplest rule in the world for fixing anything is that if doing X produces Y, the first thing to do to stop Y is do X-not.

    In the absence of a firm understanding of the problem, it’s the first thing to try.

    Mollycoddling blacks and kowtowing to their every desire is exactly like responding to a misbehaving child by giving him more of what he wants. Misbehaving even more is then the obvious way he has to get even more of what he wants.

    Blacks are low IQ, short time preference, and generally highly herd minded people. Isn’t that what adolescents are as compared to adults?

    Whites responding to blacks, collectively, as an effective and competent parent responds to a rebellious and disrespectful child would achieve similar results.

    Nothing, to me, could be more obvious.

    As for the Amish, they aren’t humble at all, in my experience. They privately see themselves as better than the “English”, their word for goyim/gaijin/gajo. They have the true knowledge of Christian salvation, but do not evangelize, preferring the streets of Heaven not too encumbered by anything but Amish buggies. However, the Amish are not causing trouble here on Earth, and do business with the English honestly: they are not asking for charity and have zero desire to have others do as they do. Would that certain other self-chosen groups did the same!

  52. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous

    I’m not sure that it really matters.
     
    I'm not sure your opinion matters. So far, there is no evidence that it does.

    There are differences in IQ in other places apart from the Black/White divide, like country/urban people (until recently) or the worker/management divide in any company. The idea is to get a group of people with different skills working together on a common project – it’s the commitment that counts.
     
    Kumbayah, my love, kumbayah...

    Blacks blame us for all their problems. In what way should that motivate us to work with them?

    Also, it’s a question of averages. An individual Black person like Carson can be far ahead of the average White person on IQ and ability.
     
    Yeah, I'm far ahead of Ben Carson in IQ and ability. So what? What is it with you lot, and innumeracy? Blacks are incapable of even sustaining advanced civilization, much less creating it.

    Blacks will never outlive the stereotypes of being less intelligent, less industrious, less civilized, etc., until they get stop whining about the past and move forward in this, the only country in the world that offers so much advancement for everyone. In fact, blacks today have more opportunities than whites because there are many companies required to fill positions with minorities, to the exclusion of the majority race. Now there’s an example of discrimination that we don’t hear blacks complaining about.
     
    This is loopy delusional egalitarianism, "conservative edition." Just as wrong as the leftist edition, but not as maliciously motivated.

    The false gospel of IQ promoted by VDare, Charles Murray, Steve Sailer… is the dead end street. Its only purpose is to accept the ethnic hierarchy in the US that Blacks are on the bottom and Jews are not the top as unavoidable and just. The only beneficiaries of this gospel are Jews.
     
    This is super-loopy. Jews are like an army mobilized to destroy IQ realism. Jews go ape when anyone sheds light on the subject.

    Ben Carson is certainly more intelligent than the average white person, but I ask: If Carson had been a white man of his IQ, test scores and overall ability, would he have 1) got into med school and 2) got a neurosurgery residency?

    I’m not certain, but I am inclined to think maybe not.

  53. @CCZ
    “Nevertheless, the vitriol that blacks direct toward whites seems only to grow stronger.”

    You mean, like the below:


    From a Black Lives Matter organizer / leader (Ashleigh Shackelford) “For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests”

    http://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/white-people-blacklivesmatter-protests

    Nothing you have is yours. Let me be clear: Nothing you have is yours. Also, let me be see through: Reparations are not donations, because we are not your charity, tax write off, or good deed for the day. You are living off of stolen resources, stolen land, exploited labor, appropriated culture and the murder of our people. Nothing you have is yours.

    We need housing, transportation, food, clothes, free space for meetings and work space; we need laptops, cell phones, encrypted systems for communication, solar power and LAND. Stop playing. Y’all really thought pulling up to the protest in your Hyundai was gonna be enough? Nah. You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable.

    If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?
     

    If Conservatives/Republicans DEMANDED that unmarried black women be forced to abort their pregnancies, abortion rate would drop. Jessie and Al (and BLM) would be screaming how abusive it is to subject these poor women to such a horrible, barbaric act. I’ve sent BLM a number of emails asking, do black lives matter in the womb? They never respond.

  54. The crime that blacks ought to be addressing is the fact that educators since the 1800s have been deliberately thwarting high levels of literacy among all Americans by deliberately not using phonics to teach children how to read. Instead they push the look-say or whole word method, which can actually cause dyslexia in children. This is part of an ongoing effort by socialists in charge of teachers’ colleges to dumb down the people of the U.S. The history is detailed in Samuel Blumenfeld’s book “Crimes of the Educators,” co-written with Alex Newman. Marva Collins, a black teacher in Chicago, has had excellent results with black children in the school she opened there, using a classical curriculum and traditional teaching methods, starting with phonics. Catholic schools, too, have had very good results with black children.

    • Replies: @utu
    "educators since the 1800s have been deliberately thwarting high levels of literacy among all Americans " - In my opinion they do not thwart the literacy strong enough. Some people are hurt by ability to read and write and would be better off illiterate. Just read some comments here. Some people have no business in reading or in commenting.
    , @Boris N
    The writing system of English is so utterly terrible, that there is no wonder that millions of English-speaking people, of any race, are dyslexic. They even do not call that orthography (Greek for "right writing"), because there is nothing right in it. English spelling in its difficulty and the level of absurdity with thousands of rules and myriads of exceptions is akin to Chinese and Japanese. No any language written in the Latin alphabet has such problems (even French is better!). You won't find many dyslexic people who speak, say, Swahili or Yoruba (though many in Africa are simply illiterate but not dyslexic).
  55. The quickest way to lose a friend is to make him obligated to you, blacks have never acknowledged the past fifty years of favoritism. I have seen first hand how someone that has been given an advantage has used that advantage to create a lifestyle which drags him and his family back to where they need to be taken care of. Pardon me if I say Enough!

  56. @Che Guava
    View from afar.

    Interesting article. The stupid lies in ''Black Studies' or 'African-American Studies' (to stay on-topic, won't mention the other 'liberal arts' pushing similar lies by name) don't help.

    Neither does 'Ta-Nehisi' Coates. I have read a few of his columns, he is a very bad writer, I would never read anything more by him.

    Two points.

    The theory that Obama's books were ghost-writen by Bill Ayers is convincing to me. A quick search will find it.

    My fave de Lillo book, White Noise, works on many levels, and in many parts, but the protagonist being the clueless 'Hitler Studies' prof. in some stupid 'social studies' faculty, and description of that, really made me laugh.

    I would add to your list “Pan-African Studies” (as well as “intersectionality”). Is this not a recipe for success?

    K……….. is an Associate Professor in the Departments of Women’s and Gender Studies and Pan-African Studies and the Audre Lorde Chair in Race, Class, Gender, and Sexuality Studies at the University of Louisville.

  57. Who is this Weissberg guy? He seems to cater to the lowest common denominator racists here. Is he for real or a provocateur? Anyway it seems to work. He attracts many anons and anonymouses eager to share their wisdom or is it weissdom?

  58. @Anne
    The crime that blacks ought to be addressing is the fact that educators since the 1800s have been deliberately thwarting high levels of literacy among all Americans by deliberately not using phonics to teach children how to read. Instead they push the look-say or whole word method, which can actually cause dyslexia in children. This is part of an ongoing effort by socialists in charge of teachers' colleges to dumb down the people of the U.S. The history is detailed in Samuel Blumenfeld's book "Crimes of the Educators," co-written with Alex Newman. Marva Collins, a black teacher in Chicago, has had excellent results with black children in the school she opened there, using a classical curriculum and traditional teaching methods, starting with phonics. Catholic schools, too, have had very good results with black children.

    “educators since the 1800s have been deliberately thwarting high levels of literacy among all Americans ” – In my opinion they do not thwart the literacy strong enough. Some people are hurt by ability to read and write and would be better off illiterate. Just read some comments here. Some people have no business in reading or in commenting.

  59. If we are all equal, then it seems reasonable to conclude that the manifest failures of the black population are due to systemic racism and the malevolence of white people.

    Of course another explanation could be that we are not equal.

    So you are left with two explanations for obvious black dysfunction: Whites are generally malevolent racists or blacks are generally not that bright. The former explanation seems to be favored by the elites and is considered an acceptable opinion, while the latter can get you fired from your job and in some countries tried for a hate crime.

  60. @Anne
    The crime that blacks ought to be addressing is the fact that educators since the 1800s have been deliberately thwarting high levels of literacy among all Americans by deliberately not using phonics to teach children how to read. Instead they push the look-say or whole word method, which can actually cause dyslexia in children. This is part of an ongoing effort by socialists in charge of teachers' colleges to dumb down the people of the U.S. The history is detailed in Samuel Blumenfeld's book "Crimes of the Educators," co-written with Alex Newman. Marva Collins, a black teacher in Chicago, has had excellent results with black children in the school she opened there, using a classical curriculum and traditional teaching methods, starting with phonics. Catholic schools, too, have had very good results with black children.

    The writing system of English is so utterly terrible, that there is no wonder that millions of English-speaking people, of any race, are dyslexic. They even do not call that orthography (Greek for “right writing”), because there is nothing right in it. English spelling in its difficulty and the level of absurdity with thousands of rules and myriads of exceptions is akin to Chinese and Japanese. No any language written in the Latin alphabet has such problems (even French is better!). You won’t find many dyslexic people who speak, say, Swahili or Yoruba (though many in Africa are simply illiterate but not dyslexic).

    • Replies: @Anon
    Dyslexia is not merely an American phenomenon:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/10/health/geography-of-dyslexia-is-explored.html . Though the article ascribes the higher rate here to English spelling rules, some clues are present this isn't entirely the case. Note the emphasis given to phonic teaching for dyslexics. In other countries (Italy, for example) phonic teaching is the default, rather than the bizarre "whole word" approach once popular in the US and still influential here. There was a very well-known book on this, "Why Johnny Can't Read". Drs. Jerry and Roberta Pournelle, the latter of whom was (is?) a remedial educator who enjoyed a nearly 100% success rate teaching "dyslexics" to read, used to maintain that most diagnoses of dyslexia were made by lazy or incompetent teachers. It is true English has oddities, but they are not as numerous as often assumed.

    Further, Italian and French spellings reflect the more-or-less artificial imposition of a single dialect (the Florentine for Italian and the Parisian(?) for French), which never happened in English. (though you can spell dialect phonetically, of course).

    Don't know about Russian; I know the Reds imposed spelling reform but don't think it had that much to do with literacy. You would know more than me.

    Chinese is in its own ballpark for complexity, but the Chinese seem to have a handle on it. As for Africans, I doubt much effort is put into teaching most to read. A quick Web search shows that dyslexia at least exists in Kenya though I'm d-d if I know what language they were trying to read.
  61. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    What alternative strategy would you suggest, though?

    Surely telling people the truth about race and race differences, especially in intelligence, isn’t the way to solve anything.

    Telling the truth will never solve any human relations problem, that’s for sure.

    So, yes: more affirmative action, more pro-black discrimination will only increase sense of inferiority and paranoia.
    Intellectually, blacks are to whites what whites are to Ashkenazim.
    When whites look at Ashkenazim accomplishments (academic, at Wall Street, … ), if they aren’t human biodiversity aware, it’s granted they’ll think of a conspiracy.

    Ending differences is possible through interbreeding, and that’s the cloaked dream of the aware in the “there is no such thing as race” crowd, and that’s why they are using all means of psychological conditioning to achieve it.

    That “Hollywood promotes miscegenation for non-Jewish whites only” is a quite awkward lie.
    Jews are intermarrying a lot, and when they see the obsessively advertised white-black couple they can be influenced as much as other whites.

    What’s sure is: no problem is going to be solved either rationally or reasonably. Solutions, as well as new questions and hardships, will arise, when they do, as consequences of the ever-going, general, battle for power.
    This is how history is advanced, not by planning.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    Your explanation for Jewish dominance in American society is not accurate. Here is the evidence based on IQ scores.

    While the average Ashkenazi Jewish IQ is approximately eight to ten points higher than the average white European IQ, this difference cannot explain the vast Jewish over representation in our elite professions, finance, and academia. For example, in absolute terms the number of non-Jewish whites with an IQ of 140 and above (common at the elite level) is at least six times the absolute number of Jewish whites with that high IQ.

    As Ron Unz has shown, there is a definite tribalism and favoritism at work in America today favoring Jewish elites. If a strict meritocracy was in place, Jews would be over represented in the elite fields, but they would not be dominant.

  62. Whites are the only race in history who have put its own welfare and survival at risk for the benefit of other races and especially one as dim witted, hateful and savage as the American negro in a vain effort to make him a mirror image of ourselves. It should be obvious to all except the most incorrigible anti-white bigots, religious fanatics, anti-racist ideologues and Stevie Wonder that ebony and ivory will never live in harmony. The differences between us are so vast as to be unbridgeable by legislation, moralizing and well wishing.

    At minimum it’s time to allow freedom of association(that was rescinded with various “civil rights” laws) which entails permitting whites to segregate themselves and discriminate against the crazed blacks as they see fit. Since adopting a stance of country nice towards the blacks has only emboldened them to commit violent acts in the acquisition of more rights and free stuff, whites need to adopt a more intolerant and confrontational stance and undermine black racial interests wherever and however possible since what’s good for them is invariably bad for whites.

    Donald Trump is naive and a bit of a neophyte on this issue and seems to think that syrupy platitudes, smiles and an economic revival is all that’s needed for interracial amity , but nature will not be so cruelly mocked indefinitely.

    • Replies: @europeasant
    Spot on the money. Since Barack Hussein Obama was elected, quite a lot of them have become emboldened. Not all, not the ones that know realism.But still there are many places in America where it would not be beneficial to your health to travel. A Travel Book will soon be forthcoming detailing these NO GO areas.
    If your car stops anywhere within these vicinities, Whoe be unto you, especially at night.
    Hey what about triple A publishing that? It could be a best seller!

    I await your response.
  63. @KenH
    Whites are the only race in history who have put its own welfare and survival at risk for the benefit of other races and especially one as dim witted, hateful and savage as the American negro in a vain effort to make him a mirror image of ourselves. It should be obvious to all except the most incorrigible anti-white bigots, religious fanatics, anti-racist ideologues and Stevie Wonder that ebony and ivory will never live in harmony. The differences between us are so vast as to be unbridgeable by legislation, moralizing and well wishing.

    At minimum it's time to allow freedom of association(that was rescinded with various "civil rights" laws) which entails permitting whites to segregate themselves and discriminate against the crazed blacks as they see fit. Since adopting a stance of country nice towards the blacks has only emboldened them to commit violent acts in the acquisition of more rights and free stuff, whites need to adopt a more intolerant and confrontational stance and undermine black racial interests wherever and however possible since what's good for them is invariably bad for whites.

    Donald Trump is naive and a bit of a neophyte on this issue and seems to think that syrupy platitudes, smiles and an economic revival is all that's needed for interracial amity , but nature will not be so cruelly mocked indefinitely.

    Spot on the money. Since Barack Hussein Obama was elected, quite a lot of them have become emboldened. Not all, not the ones that know realism.But still there are many places in America where it would not be beneficial to your health to travel. A Travel Book will soon be forthcoming detailing these NO GO areas.
    If your car stops anywhere within these vicinities, Whoe be unto you, especially at night.
    Hey what about triple A publishing that? It could be a best seller!

    I await your response.

    • Replies: @KenH

    Hey what about triple A publishing that? It could be a best seller!
     
    Go for it, although AAA would refuse to publish on the grounds that it's racist and offensive, so you might have to self publish and sell on Amazon.
  64. You mean like the author of this article?

    So, Schindler means the Nazis didn’t do the holocaust. Thanks for that nugget of wisdom.

  65. So, Schindler means the Nazis Germans didn’t do the holocaust. Thanks for that nugget of wisdom. There, now it’s semantics-proof.

  66. What alternative strategy would you suggest, though?

    Surely telling people the truth about race and race differences, especially in intelligence, isn’t the way to solve anything.

    Telling the truth will never solve any human relations problem, that’s for sure.

    So, we should, for example, push Holocaust Revisionism, and utterly destroy the orthodox Holocaust Narrative. Because lying is the way to go, and telling the truth is a recipe for disaster.

    Telling the (relevant) truth works great if you are in court, and you are innocent, and you have proof that you’ve been falsely accused, and you have proof as to what really happened. That is about as precise an analogy as you will find, for the situation Whites find themselves in, vis-a-vis “black failure.”

    The time for polite lies was over, as soon as leftists went all-in on accusing Whites of being responsible for “black failure.”

    Don’t project your low character onto human relations.

    That “Hollywood promotes miscegenation for non-Jewish whites only” is a quite awkward lie.
    Jews are intermarrying a lot, and when they see the obsessively advertised white-black couple they can be influenced as much as other whites.

    Everything Jews (like you) say about “intermarriage” is an awkward lie. Jews call White Jews marrying White non-Jews “intermarriage,” because they’re so racist that even this small racial difference is huge to them. No other White groups care, or track these things, or even have these things on their radar, because they’re so far behind Jews in terms of racism.

    Nobody knows how many Jews marry non-whites, because Jews sweep the statistics under the rug, because the Jewish inter-racial marriage rates (“huh? What’s that?” said the Jew, as he pushes inter-racial marriage for non-Jewish Whites) are so low, that they would be a major embarrassment to the Jews, if they ever got out. The numbers would undermine Jews’ false pose of leftism.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I'm personally aware of two half-black/half-Jewish ordinary people, and I didn't grow up in a part of the country with a large Jewish population. I can think of several well-known Jewish-black mixed people off the top of my head including Mark Ndesandjo (Obama's half-brother), LennyKravitz, Lisa Bonet and Rain Pryor (daughter of Richard Pryor). The first wife of billionaire Seagram's heir Edgar Bronfman Jr. was an African-American.
  67. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Boris N
    The writing system of English is so utterly terrible, that there is no wonder that millions of English-speaking people, of any race, are dyslexic. They even do not call that orthography (Greek for "right writing"), because there is nothing right in it. English spelling in its difficulty and the level of absurdity with thousands of rules and myriads of exceptions is akin to Chinese and Japanese. No any language written in the Latin alphabet has such problems (even French is better!). You won't find many dyslexic people who speak, say, Swahili or Yoruba (though many in Africa are simply illiterate but not dyslexic).

    Dyslexia is not merely an American phenomenon:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/10/health/geography-of-dyslexia-is-explored.html . Though the article ascribes the higher rate here to English spelling rules, some clues are present this isn’t entirely the case. Note the emphasis given to phonic teaching for dyslexics. In other countries (Italy, for example) phonic teaching is the default, rather than the bizarre “whole word” approach once popular in the US and still influential here. There was a very well-known book on this, “Why Johnny Can’t Read”. Drs. Jerry and Roberta Pournelle, the latter of whom was (is?) a remedial educator who enjoyed a nearly 100% success rate teaching “dyslexics” to read, used to maintain that most diagnoses of dyslexia were made by lazy or incompetent teachers. It is true English has oddities, but they are not as numerous as often assumed.

    Further, Italian and French spellings reflect the more-or-less artificial imposition of a single dialect (the Florentine for Italian and the Parisian(?) for French), which never happened in English. (though you can spell dialect phonetically, of course).

    Don’t know about Russian; I know the Reds imposed spelling reform but don’t think it had that much to do with literacy. You would know more than me.

    Chinese is in its own ballpark for complexity, but the Chinese seem to have a handle on it. As for Africans, I doubt much effort is put into teaching most to read. A quick Web search shows that dyslexia at least exists in Kenya though I’m d-d if I know what language they were trying to read.

    • Replies: @Boris N
    Yes, it is not American, it's English.
    I cannot cite them all but I read various scientific articles which compared dyslexia cross-linguistically, and the results were against English. Yes, dyslexia exists in other countries, but only in English-speaking countries the language itself makes it more severe. While the reading accuracy of children in most European countries is 75-90%, among English-speaking children it's as low as 40%.
    http://www.elemedu.upatras.gr/english/images/porpodas/Seymour_Aro_Erskine_Porpodas_et_al_2003_BJP.pdf

    Further, Italian and French spellings reflect the more-or-less artificial imposition of a single dialect (the Florentine for Italian and the Parisian(?) for French), which never happened in English. (though you can spell dialect phonetically, of course).
     
    That's not so. Most manuscripts in Old English reflects West-Saxon dialects, which signifies the place of the political center of that time. Then, for several centuries after the Norman conquest, most texts in Middle English were written in local dialects. This indeed means there was no center. But Modern English descends from Londonese. Of course, there are many dialectal words and forms in Modern English (like "bury": its spelling is Southern, but its pronunciation is Kentish), but mostly it reflects the speech of Southeast England. The difference between accents is another story. But they are less different than many think. Words like "though, through, tough, trough" are pronounced uniformly or very close across the accents, but their spelling absolutely unpredictable. It's not that English spelling cover the pronunciation of various accents, but rather reflects the oddities which English has amassed during its long history.

    As for Italian and French what you said is true, but I have no idea how else a written national language can develop. Either it is based on some prestige dialect of a political or cultural center or on the speech of upper classes, otherwise every village may have its own written language. Written English is also based on a particular center, but unlike others it failed to develop a decent spelling.

    Don’t know about Russian; I know the Reds imposed spelling reform but don’t think it had that much to do with literacy. You would know more than me.
     
    They did not change much, just dropped out a few redundant letters. The reform was prepared and ready before the October revolution, so the Bolsheviks did not invent it, but only enacted it. Russian orthography is not very straightforward due to the nature of the language (Russian has reduction of vowels and consonants), but it relies upon the uniform spelling of morphemes so it's ten times easier and more logical than that of English.
  68. @Anonymous
    What alternative strategy would you suggest, though?

    Surely telling people the truth about race and race differences, especially in intelligence, isn't the way to solve anything.

    Telling the truth will never solve any human relations problem, that's for sure.

    So, yes: more affirmative action, more pro-black discrimination will only increase sense of inferiority and paranoia.
    Intellectually, blacks are to whites what whites are to Ashkenazim.
    When whites look at Ashkenazim accomplishments (academic, at Wall Street, ... ), if they aren't human biodiversity aware, it's granted they'll think of a conspiracy.

    Ending differences is possible through interbreeding, and that's the cloaked dream of the aware in the "there is no such thing as race" crowd, and that's why they are using all means of psychological conditioning to achieve it.

    That "Hollywood promotes miscegenation for non-Jewish whites only" is a quite awkward lie.
    Jews are intermarrying a lot, and when they see the obsessively advertised white-black couple they can be influenced as much as other whites.

    What's sure is: no problem is going to be solved either rationally or reasonably. Solutions, as well as new questions and hardships, will arise, when they do, as consequences of the ever-going, general, battle for power.
    This is how history is advanced, not by planning.

    Your explanation for Jewish dominance in American society is not accurate. Here is the evidence based on IQ scores.

    While the average Ashkenazi Jewish IQ is approximately eight to ten points higher than the average white European IQ, this difference cannot explain the vast Jewish over representation in our elite professions, finance, and academia. For example, in absolute terms the number of non-Jewish whites with an IQ of 140 and above (common at the elite level) is at least six times the absolute number of Jewish whites with that high IQ.

    As Ron Unz has shown, there is a definite tribalism and favoritism at work in America today favoring Jewish elites. If a strict meritocracy was in place, Jews would be over represented in the elite fields, but they would not be dominant.

  69. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Svigor

    What alternative strategy would you suggest, though?

    Surely telling people the truth about race and race differences, especially in intelligence, isn’t the way to solve anything.

    Telling the truth will never solve any human relations problem, that’s for sure.
     
    So, we should, for example, push Holocaust Revisionism, and utterly destroy the orthodox Holocaust Narrative. Because lying is the way to go, and telling the truth is a recipe for disaster.

    Telling the (relevant) truth works great if you are in court, and you are innocent, and you have proof that you've been falsely accused, and you have proof as to what really happened. That is about as precise an analogy as you will find, for the situation Whites find themselves in, vis-a-vis "black failure."

    The time for polite lies was over, as soon as leftists went all-in on accusing Whites of being responsible for "black failure."

    Don't project your low character onto human relations.

    That “Hollywood promotes miscegenation for non-Jewish whites only” is a quite awkward lie.
    Jews are intermarrying a lot, and when they see the obsessively advertised white-black couple they can be influenced as much as other whites.
     
    Everything Jews (like you) say about "intermarriage" is an awkward lie. Jews call White Jews marrying White non-Jews "intermarriage," because they're so racist that even this small racial difference is huge to them. No other White groups care, or track these things, or even have these things on their radar, because they're so far behind Jews in terms of racism.

    Nobody knows how many Jews marry non-whites, because Jews sweep the statistics under the rug, because the Jewish inter-racial marriage rates ("huh? What's that?" said the Jew, as he pushes inter-racial marriage for non-Jewish Whites) are so low, that they would be a major embarrassment to the Jews, if they ever got out. The numbers would undermine Jews' false pose of leftism.

    I’m personally aware of two half-black/half-Jewish ordinary people, and I didn’t grow up in a part of the country with a large Jewish population. I can think of several well-known Jewish-black mixed people off the top of my head including Mark Ndesandjo (Obama’s half-brother), LennyKravitz, Lisa Bonet and Rain Pryor (daughter of Richard Pryor). The first wife of billionaire Seagram’s heir Edgar Bronfman Jr. was an African-American.

  70. Sending humans to the Moon was an impressive technical feat, but had no practical value whatsoever. Even its propaganda value was transitory. Sure, the world was awed for a little while, but how long did it take for launches to become passe?

    Sending humans to Mars would be even more of a meaningless publicity stunt with no plausible scientific or technological payoff.

    Comparing trying to uplift ghettos with the Moon landing is comparing one pointless activity with another. The only difference is that one attempt would be technically successful if ultimately pointless, while the other is both pointless and impossible.

  71. The Moon and the Ghetto vision artfully helps explain growing black frustration despite all signs of seemingly helpful white efforts to promote racial equality. And compounding this frustration, the repertoire of pressuring tactics is nearly exhausted.

    Better to admit that affirmative action is a waste of time (or worse, a tool of the PC “White Guilt” narrative).

    A more healthy attitude all round would be to admit that people/ races aren’t on the average equal, and accept it as a fact of life. There are millions of useful jobs that don’t need high IQ’s or high level training, but which still make a good contribution to society.

    An important aspect is giving everyone an opportunity (no racial or economic preference) so that able children from poor families have a chance to get ahead. This is a basic American idea to build a unified society that citizens will respect and fight for if necessary.

    Part of the deal is also low level controlled immigration and restricted outsourcing – nothing like the present neoliberal free for all.

    • Replies: @Boris N
    The problem is even if some part of the population is indeed inherently and despairingly low IQ and you suggest they work in low IQ jobs, that means that part would be always on the bottom of the society because low IQ jobs are always paid low in capitalism. The only country where blue collars were paid equal and sometimes more than white collars was the USSR. But in the USA even the movement for rising the minimum wage to decent living standards (at least 200% of the poverty level) has been strongly and for long opposed. So low IQ people end up always poor, even if they work hard on their low IQ jobs.
  72. @Anon
    Dyslexia is not merely an American phenomenon:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/10/health/geography-of-dyslexia-is-explored.html . Though the article ascribes the higher rate here to English spelling rules, some clues are present this isn't entirely the case. Note the emphasis given to phonic teaching for dyslexics. In other countries (Italy, for example) phonic teaching is the default, rather than the bizarre "whole word" approach once popular in the US and still influential here. There was a very well-known book on this, "Why Johnny Can't Read". Drs. Jerry and Roberta Pournelle, the latter of whom was (is?) a remedial educator who enjoyed a nearly 100% success rate teaching "dyslexics" to read, used to maintain that most diagnoses of dyslexia were made by lazy or incompetent teachers. It is true English has oddities, but they are not as numerous as often assumed.

    Further, Italian and French spellings reflect the more-or-less artificial imposition of a single dialect (the Florentine for Italian and the Parisian(?) for French), which never happened in English. (though you can spell dialect phonetically, of course).

    Don't know about Russian; I know the Reds imposed spelling reform but don't think it had that much to do with literacy. You would know more than me.

    Chinese is in its own ballpark for complexity, but the Chinese seem to have a handle on it. As for Africans, I doubt much effort is put into teaching most to read. A quick Web search shows that dyslexia at least exists in Kenya though I'm d-d if I know what language they were trying to read.

    Yes, it is not American, it’s English.
    I cannot cite them all but I read various scientific articles which compared dyslexia cross-linguistically, and the results were against English. Yes, dyslexia exists in other countries, but only in English-speaking countries the language itself makes it more severe. While the reading accuracy of children in most European countries is 75-90%, among English-speaking children it’s as low as 40%.

    http://www.elemedu.upatras.gr/english/images/porpodas/Seymour_Aro_Erskine_Porpodas_et_al_2003_BJP.pdf

    Further, Italian and French spellings reflect the more-or-less artificial imposition of a single dialect (the Florentine for Italian and the Parisian(?) for French), which never happened in English. (though you can spell dialect phonetically, of course).

    That’s not so. Most manuscripts in Old English reflects West-Saxon dialects, which signifies the place of the political center of that time. Then, for several centuries after the Norman conquest, most texts in Middle English were written in local dialects. This indeed means there was no center. But Modern English descends from Londonese. Of course, there are many dialectal words and forms in Modern English (like “bury”: its spelling is Southern, but its pronunciation is Kentish), but mostly it reflects the speech of Southeast England. The difference between accents is another story. But they are less different than many think. Words like “though, through, tough, trough” are pronounced uniformly or very close across the accents, but their spelling absolutely unpredictable. It’s not that English spelling cover the pronunciation of various accents, but rather reflects the oddities which English has amassed during its long history.

    As for Italian and French what you said is true, but I have no idea how else a written national language can develop. Either it is based on some prestige dialect of a political or cultural center or on the speech of upper classes, otherwise every village may have its own written language. Written English is also based on a particular center, but unlike others it failed to develop a decent spelling.

    Don’t know about Russian; I know the Reds imposed spelling reform but don’t think it had that much to do with literacy. You would know more than me.

    They did not change much, just dropped out a few redundant letters. The reform was prepared and ready before the October revolution, so the Bolsheviks did not invent it, but only enacted it. Russian orthography is not very straightforward due to the nature of the language (Russian has reduction of vowels and consonants), but it relies upon the uniform spelling of morphemes so it’s ten times easier and more logical than that of English.

    • Replies: @utu
    You overcomplicating and obscuring the problem. For whatever reasons in England there was no central authority that was interested in establishing one mostly phonetically based system of spelling. In other countries the current spelling systems are the results of many unifying reforms performed and enforced by central authority like Academy of Science, etc.

    Find the explanation why there was no central authority or no desire to reform spelling into a phonetic. This would be interesting.
    , @Anon
    Thanks for the info about Russian; it was very interesting, and for that study. I have just a couple of bones to pick with it. First, a minor quibble; why is a school in Scotland being tested? If Scotland is considered as an English area Brazil should be considered as a Portuguese area. Second, the study acknowledges that phonic teaching methods are not used primarily in Scotland:

    In Scottish schools the re is a pre ference for a mixed method which c ombines the teac hing of a vocabulary of sight words with the teaching of the letters and dec oding proc edure s
     
    Note that nonword spellings were also found difficult and that the nonwords used do not require more than letter-by-letter phonetic understanding.

    Utu in his previous reply elaborates the point I made earlier; English has a compromise spelling determined, mostly, by writers over several hundred years in the early modern period. There has never been an authority all English-speakers would accept, or which could act in spelling reform with respect to the liberties, sometimes strange ones, cherished by the English-speaking peoples.

    The -ough spellings are exceptions to what is generally a reasonable if overly complex system. It is a pity they're such common words, though.

    Because of its greater orthographic and syllabic complexity English would likely take longer than other, esp. Romance, languages to learn even if taught perfectly. But given the will to teach, there isn't any barrier to near-universal literacy. It is mostly this that is lacking.
  73. @Miro23

    The Moon and the Ghetto vision artfully helps explain growing black frustration despite all signs of seemingly helpful white efforts to promote racial equality. And compounding this frustration, the repertoire of pressuring tactics is nearly exhausted.
     
    Better to admit that affirmative action is a waste of time (or worse, a tool of the PC "White Guilt" narrative).

    A more healthy attitude all round would be to admit that people/ races aren't on the average equal, and accept it as a fact of life. There are millions of useful jobs that don't need high IQ's or high level training, but which still make a good contribution to society.

    An important aspect is giving everyone an opportunity (no racial or economic preference) so that able children from poor families have a chance to get ahead. This is a basic American idea to build a unified society that citizens will respect and fight for if necessary.

    Part of the deal is also low level controlled immigration and restricted outsourcing - nothing like the present neoliberal free for all.

    The problem is even if some part of the population is indeed inherently and despairingly low IQ and you suggest they work in low IQ jobs, that means that part would be always on the bottom of the society because low IQ jobs are always paid low in capitalism. The only country where blue collars were paid equal and sometimes more than white collars was the USSR. But in the USA even the movement for rising the minimum wage to decent living standards (at least 200% of the poverty level) has been strongly and for long opposed. So low IQ people end up always poor, even if they work hard on their low IQ jobs.

    • Replies: @Boris N
    The poverty level for a family of four is $24,250. To live as twice as better than that requires the household income of $48,500. So either one parent works for $26/hour or both parents work at least for $13/hour. But the minimal wage is as twice as low, $7.25/hour. But the income of $50,000 requires a bachelor's degree and $25,000, at least high school. But as low IQ people cannot achieve that they end up in poverty. So either low IQ cannot be corrected and low IQ people cannot do anything about it, then they must not be deprived from a decent wage because of their deficiency. Or people of all races and nations are equal in the IQ distribution and if they do not finished school or college and are paid low then that's their own problem.
    , @Miro23

    But in the USA even the movement for raising the minimum wage to decent living standards (at least 200% of the poverty level) has been strongly and for long opposed. So low IQ people end up always poor, even if they work hard on their low IQ jobs.
     
    That's true enough, but it's the same story as outsourcing. Unrestrained capitalism (current neoliberal variety) doesn't recognize any national responsibility so it can produce in China, sell in the US, code in India, pay taxes in Ireland and have a management who knows where.

    A decent minimum wage and US based production (higher employment), means higher consumer prices and lower profits but that's the price you pay. Germans and Japanese get it to work with a big effort to manufacture quality products in their own countries and their public is ready to pay the extra price.

    The basic question is "Is the modern USA anything more than a group of people who go bargain shopping together?"

  74. @Boris N
    The problem is even if some part of the population is indeed inherently and despairingly low IQ and you suggest they work in low IQ jobs, that means that part would be always on the bottom of the society because low IQ jobs are always paid low in capitalism. The only country where blue collars were paid equal and sometimes more than white collars was the USSR. But in the USA even the movement for rising the minimum wage to decent living standards (at least 200% of the poverty level) has been strongly and for long opposed. So low IQ people end up always poor, even if they work hard on their low IQ jobs.

    The poverty level for a family of four is $24,250. To live as twice as better than that requires the household income of $48,500. So either one parent works for $26/hour or both parents work at least for $13/hour. But the minimal wage is as twice as low, $7.25/hour. But the income of $50,000 requires a bachelor’s degree and $25,000, at least high school. But as low IQ people cannot achieve that they end up in poverty. So either low IQ cannot be corrected and low IQ people cannot do anything about it, then they must not be deprived from a decent wage because of their deficiency. Or people of all races and nations are equal in the IQ distribution and if they do not finished school or college and are paid low then that’s their own problem.

  75. @Boris N
    Yes, it is not American, it's English.
    I cannot cite them all but I read various scientific articles which compared dyslexia cross-linguistically, and the results were against English. Yes, dyslexia exists in other countries, but only in English-speaking countries the language itself makes it more severe. While the reading accuracy of children in most European countries is 75-90%, among English-speaking children it's as low as 40%.
    http://www.elemedu.upatras.gr/english/images/porpodas/Seymour_Aro_Erskine_Porpodas_et_al_2003_BJP.pdf

    Further, Italian and French spellings reflect the more-or-less artificial imposition of a single dialect (the Florentine for Italian and the Parisian(?) for French), which never happened in English. (though you can spell dialect phonetically, of course).
     
    That's not so. Most manuscripts in Old English reflects West-Saxon dialects, which signifies the place of the political center of that time. Then, for several centuries after the Norman conquest, most texts in Middle English were written in local dialects. This indeed means there was no center. But Modern English descends from Londonese. Of course, there are many dialectal words and forms in Modern English (like "bury": its spelling is Southern, but its pronunciation is Kentish), but mostly it reflects the speech of Southeast England. The difference between accents is another story. But they are less different than many think. Words like "though, through, tough, trough" are pronounced uniformly or very close across the accents, but their spelling absolutely unpredictable. It's not that English spelling cover the pronunciation of various accents, but rather reflects the oddities which English has amassed during its long history.

    As for Italian and French what you said is true, but I have no idea how else a written national language can develop. Either it is based on some prestige dialect of a political or cultural center or on the speech of upper classes, otherwise every village may have its own written language. Written English is also based on a particular center, but unlike others it failed to develop a decent spelling.

    Don’t know about Russian; I know the Reds imposed spelling reform but don’t think it had that much to do with literacy. You would know more than me.
     
    They did not change much, just dropped out a few redundant letters. The reform was prepared and ready before the October revolution, so the Bolsheviks did not invent it, but only enacted it. Russian orthography is not very straightforward due to the nature of the language (Russian has reduction of vowels and consonants), but it relies upon the uniform spelling of morphemes so it's ten times easier and more logical than that of English.

    You overcomplicating and obscuring the problem. For whatever reasons in England there was no central authority that was interested in establishing one mostly phonetically based system of spelling. In other countries the current spelling systems are the results of many unifying reforms performed and enforced by central authority like Academy of Science, etc.

    Find the explanation why there was no central authority or no desire to reform spelling into a phonetic. This would be interesting.

    • Replies: @Boris N
    Overcomplicating? What do you mean?
    Whatever the reason, English spelling is unprecedentedly overcomplicated, so there must be no much surprise why there are many dyslexics among English speakers of all races.
  76. @Boris N
    The problem is even if some part of the population is indeed inherently and despairingly low IQ and you suggest they work in low IQ jobs, that means that part would be always on the bottom of the society because low IQ jobs are always paid low in capitalism. The only country where blue collars were paid equal and sometimes more than white collars was the USSR. But in the USA even the movement for rising the minimum wage to decent living standards (at least 200% of the poverty level) has been strongly and for long opposed. So low IQ people end up always poor, even if they work hard on their low IQ jobs.

    But in the USA even the movement for raising the minimum wage to decent living standards (at least 200% of the poverty level) has been strongly and for long opposed. So low IQ people end up always poor, even if they work hard on their low IQ jobs.

    That’s true enough, but it’s the same story as outsourcing. Unrestrained capitalism (current neoliberal variety) doesn’t recognize any national responsibility so it can produce in China, sell in the US, code in India, pay taxes in Ireland and have a management who knows where.

    A decent minimum wage and US based production (higher employment), means higher consumer prices and lower profits but that’s the price you pay. Germans and Japanese get it to work with a big effort to manufacture quality products in their own countries and their public is ready to pay the extra price.

    The basic question is “Is the modern USA anything more than a group of people who go bargain shopping together?”

  77. @europeasant
    Spot on the money. Since Barack Hussein Obama was elected, quite a lot of them have become emboldened. Not all, not the ones that know realism.But still there are many places in America where it would not be beneficial to your health to travel. A Travel Book will soon be forthcoming detailing these NO GO areas.
    If your car stops anywhere within these vicinities, Whoe be unto you, especially at night.
    Hey what about triple A publishing that? It could be a best seller!

    I await your response.

    Hey what about triple A publishing that? It could be a best seller!

    Go for it, although AAA would refuse to publish on the grounds that it’s racist and offensive, so you might have to self publish and sell on Amazon.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    Between 1936 and the mid-1960s (pre-federal civil rights law), Victor H. Green (New York) published "The Negro Motorist Green Book" to "give the Negro traveler information that will keep him from running into difficulties...."

    Complete Information:

    http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/collections/the-green-book#/?tab=about

    1949 Edition:

    http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/9dc3ff40-8df4-0132-fd57-58d385a7b928#/?uuid=a4764f90-8df4-0132-8e80-58d385a7b928
  78. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Boris N
    Yes, it is not American, it's English.
    I cannot cite them all but I read various scientific articles which compared dyslexia cross-linguistically, and the results were against English. Yes, dyslexia exists in other countries, but only in English-speaking countries the language itself makes it more severe. While the reading accuracy of children in most European countries is 75-90%, among English-speaking children it's as low as 40%.
    http://www.elemedu.upatras.gr/english/images/porpodas/Seymour_Aro_Erskine_Porpodas_et_al_2003_BJP.pdf

    Further, Italian and French spellings reflect the more-or-less artificial imposition of a single dialect (the Florentine for Italian and the Parisian(?) for French), which never happened in English. (though you can spell dialect phonetically, of course).
     
    That's not so. Most manuscripts in Old English reflects West-Saxon dialects, which signifies the place of the political center of that time. Then, for several centuries after the Norman conquest, most texts in Middle English were written in local dialects. This indeed means there was no center. But Modern English descends from Londonese. Of course, there are many dialectal words and forms in Modern English (like "bury": its spelling is Southern, but its pronunciation is Kentish), but mostly it reflects the speech of Southeast England. The difference between accents is another story. But they are less different than many think. Words like "though, through, tough, trough" are pronounced uniformly or very close across the accents, but their spelling absolutely unpredictable. It's not that English spelling cover the pronunciation of various accents, but rather reflects the oddities which English has amassed during its long history.

    As for Italian and French what you said is true, but I have no idea how else a written national language can develop. Either it is based on some prestige dialect of a political or cultural center or on the speech of upper classes, otherwise every village may have its own written language. Written English is also based on a particular center, but unlike others it failed to develop a decent spelling.

    Don’t know about Russian; I know the Reds imposed spelling reform but don’t think it had that much to do with literacy. You would know more than me.
     
    They did not change much, just dropped out a few redundant letters. The reform was prepared and ready before the October revolution, so the Bolsheviks did not invent it, but only enacted it. Russian orthography is not very straightforward due to the nature of the language (Russian has reduction of vowels and consonants), but it relies upon the uniform spelling of morphemes so it's ten times easier and more logical than that of English.

    Thanks for the info about Russian; it was very interesting, and for that study. I have just a couple of bones to pick with it. First, a minor quibble; why is a school in Scotland being tested? If Scotland is considered as an English area Brazil should be considered as a Portuguese area. Second, the study acknowledges that phonic teaching methods are not used primarily in Scotland:

    In Scottish schools the re is a pre ference for a mixed method which c ombines the teac hing of a vocabulary of sight words with the teaching of the letters and dec oding proc edure s

    Note that nonword spellings were also found difficult and that the nonwords used do not require more than letter-by-letter phonetic understanding.

    Utu in his previous reply elaborates the point I made earlier; English has a compromise spelling determined, mostly, by writers over several hundred years in the early modern period. There has never been an authority all English-speakers would accept, or which could act in spelling reform with respect to the liberties, sometimes strange ones, cherished by the English-speaking peoples.

    The -ough spellings are exceptions to what is generally a reasonable if overly complex system. It is a pity they’re such common words, though.

    Because of its greater orthographic and syllabic complexity English would likely take longer than other, esp. Romance, languages to learn even if taught perfectly. But given the will to teach, there isn’t any barrier to near-universal literacy. It is mostly this that is lacking.

    • Replies: @Boris N

    If Scotland is considered as an English area Brazil should be considered as a Portuguese area.
     
    What's the difference? Yes, they have a thick accent, but >95% of Scots speak English natively anyway. Scotland is not Nigeria or India. And Brazil as well is not Angola.

    But given the will to teach, there isn’t any barrier to near-universal literacy. It is mostly this that is lacking.
     
    No, there isn't. And near-universal literacy was achieved in English-speaking countries already by the end of the 19th century (with some reservation, but whatever). The question has arisen because of a claim that relatively low literacy level among certain groups (Blacks) is due some evil intention. But I think that there will be always a higher risk for some sort of illiteracy in any English-speaking society because of the language itself. Whatever the method may be chosen to teach, reading and writing in English would require much more time and effort than in most languages (except for some Asian languages and few European (namely, French and Danish)). Some Blacks may simply lack that time or an opportunity for that effort for a number of reasons (social-economic, mostly). If the alleged low literacy is due a wrong method, then everybody must have suffered, not only Blacks, don't you think?
  79. @KenH

    Hey what about triple A publishing that? It could be a best seller!
     
    Go for it, although AAA would refuse to publish on the grounds that it's racist and offensive, so you might have to self publish and sell on Amazon.

    Between 1936 and the mid-1960s (pre-federal civil rights law), Victor H. Green (New York) published “The Negro Motorist Green Book” to “give the Negro traveler information that will keep him from running into difficulties….”

    Complete Information:

    http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/collections/the-green-book#/?tab=about

    1949 Edition:

    http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/9dc3ff40-8df4-0132-fd57-58d385a7b928#/?uuid=a4764f90-8df4-0132-8e80-58d385a7b928

  80. @Miro23
    And Ashkenazi Jews are not really all that Jewish. They came from Germany and Eastern Europe, with Chicago Daily News correspondent Edgar Ansel Mowrer writing (in 1933 after 10 years reporting from Germany ) that, " In point of fact, the Jews in Germany were slowly disappearing. Their birth rate was less than the rest of the population. They were being steadily assimilated. For every hundred marriages between full blooded Jews (1928) there were over fifty between Jew and Aryan."

    So Ashkenazi Jews are probably a lot more Germanic and Slavic than they would like to admit. Arabs see them as European colonialists and Ashkenizis don't get on well with Israel's (more Semitic) Sephardic Jews.

    And it's the same with the US's leading African Americans. They're just about all Mestizos the same as Obama.

    Genetic studies of Ashkenazi Jews show that they are about 60% European and 40% Middle Eastern. The European component is mostly Southern/Mediterranean European. There is little contribution from Northern Europeans.

  81. As Ron Unz has shown, there is a definite tribalism and favoritism at work in America today favoring Jewish elites. If a strict meritocracy was in place, Jews would be over represented in the elite fields, but they would not be dominant.

    Other behaviors probably play a role, too. E.g., Jews tend to crowd into Big Media business, and avoid, say, Big Oil.

    I’m personally aware of two half-black/half-Jewish ordinary people, and I didn’t grow up in a part of the country with a large Jewish population. I can think of several well-known Jewish-black mixed people off the top of my head including Mark Ndesandjo (Obama’s half-brother), LennyKravitz, Lisa Bonet and Rain Pryor (daughter of Richard Pryor). The first wife of billionaire Seagram’s heir Edgar Bronfman Jr. was an African-American.

    If the numbers weren’t embarrassing, Jews would release them.

    Sending humans to the Moon was an impressive technical feat, but had no practical value whatsoever. Even its propaganda value was transitory. Sure, the world was awed for a little while, but how long did it take for launches to become passe?

    Moon landings have become so passe…that no one has repeated them since. Maybe you’re right, and nobody cares, but I doubt it. I think a lot of people would love to see a Russian or Chinese flag up there.

  82. @Miro23

    It really is the generally low black IQ that matters, whether they like it or not.
     
    I'm not sure that it really matters. There are differences in IQ in other places apart from the Black/White divide, like country/urban people (until recently) or the worker/management divide in any company. The idea is to get a group of people with different skills working together on a common project - it's the commitment that counts.

    Also, it's a question of averages. An individual Black person like Carson can be far ahead of the average White person on IQ and ability.

    “I’m not sure that it really matters.”

    It does really matter. Until differences in intelligence are acknowledged white racism will be viewed as the main cause of disparity between blacks and whites.

  83. @utu
    You overcomplicating and obscuring the problem. For whatever reasons in England there was no central authority that was interested in establishing one mostly phonetically based system of spelling. In other countries the current spelling systems are the results of many unifying reforms performed and enforced by central authority like Academy of Science, etc.

    Find the explanation why there was no central authority or no desire to reform spelling into a phonetic. This would be interesting.

    Overcomplicating? What do you mean?
    Whatever the reason, English spelling is unprecedentedly overcomplicated, so there must be no much surprise why there are many dyslexics among English speakers of all races.

  84. @Anon
    Thanks for the info about Russian; it was very interesting, and for that study. I have just a couple of bones to pick with it. First, a minor quibble; why is a school in Scotland being tested? If Scotland is considered as an English area Brazil should be considered as a Portuguese area. Second, the study acknowledges that phonic teaching methods are not used primarily in Scotland:

    In Scottish schools the re is a pre ference for a mixed method which c ombines the teac hing of a vocabulary of sight words with the teaching of the letters and dec oding proc edure s
     
    Note that nonword spellings were also found difficult and that the nonwords used do not require more than letter-by-letter phonetic understanding.

    Utu in his previous reply elaborates the point I made earlier; English has a compromise spelling determined, mostly, by writers over several hundred years in the early modern period. There has never been an authority all English-speakers would accept, or which could act in spelling reform with respect to the liberties, sometimes strange ones, cherished by the English-speaking peoples.

    The -ough spellings are exceptions to what is generally a reasonable if overly complex system. It is a pity they're such common words, though.

    Because of its greater orthographic and syllabic complexity English would likely take longer than other, esp. Romance, languages to learn even if taught perfectly. But given the will to teach, there isn't any barrier to near-universal literacy. It is mostly this that is lacking.

    If Scotland is considered as an English area Brazil should be considered as a Portuguese area.

    What’s the difference? Yes, they have a thick accent, but >95% of Scots speak English natively anyway. Scotland is not Nigeria or India. And Brazil as well is not Angola.

    But given the will to teach, there isn’t any barrier to near-universal literacy. It is mostly this that is lacking.

    No, there isn’t. And near-universal literacy was achieved in English-speaking countries already by the end of the 19th century (with some reservation, but whatever). The question has arisen because of a claim that relatively low literacy level among certain groups (Blacks) is due some evil intention. But I think that there will be always a higher risk for some sort of illiteracy in any English-speaking society because of the language itself. Whatever the method may be chosen to teach, reading and writing in English would require much more time and effort than in most languages (except for some Asian languages and few European (namely, French and Danish)). Some Blacks may simply lack that time or an opportunity for that effort for a number of reasons (social-economic, mostly). If the alleged low literacy is due a wrong method, then everybody must have suffered, not only Blacks, don’t you think?

    • Replies: @Anon
    I mentioned Scotland and Brazil as a minor quibble; you seem to agree they are roughly comparable.

    I'm also rather skeptical of the claim that, were we to start teaching blacks to read in Spanish, there will suddenly be a great surge in black literacy and blacks will become the new giants of the literary field. I'm exaggerating, but you see the point.

    I'm willing to accept your opinions on the phonetic and orthographic complexities of various European languages. I'm not quite so willing to accept your opinion on the specific subject of teaching American blacks. You say the will to teach is present. I don't see that. And while there is in all likelihood not a conspiracy to keep blacks uneducated, it amounts to the same thing when absolutely nothing is done about it because those outside the black sections of the cities don't care and those inside are apathetic, misled by opportunists, or both. Not that nobody tries, but it amounts to nothing.

    And in certain environments, as Anne mentioned so many comments ago, where the will to teach is present, children do learn. The mass of black children are not so unintelligent that they cannot learn to read, nor do they have a severe dearth of classroom time.

    The causes of illiteracy that we have been discussing affect only a fairly small group of children. It has been shown that the teaching methods used in America often result in "dyslexia" (scare quotes to indicate what we discussed several comments ago) and that English has a more complicated spelling system than various other languages. But neither of these seems to have a great societal impact (so dyslexics take special classes, and all students spend a little longer).

    So this

    If the alleged low literacy is due a wrong method, then everybody must have suffered, not only Blacks, don’t you think?
     

    is quite true but it also applies to those things that make English harder to learn than Romanian.

    I agree it would be nice if our spelling were simpler, but it isn't the cause of all our problems (though it may be a contributing factor).

    , @Anon

    a number of reasons (social-economic, mostly)
     
    Yes, I quite agree. I'd even say "social", almost exclusively.

    I'd forgotten this particular sub-thread started out discussing a possible conspiracy to subvert student learning, I was so wrapped up in the discussion itself, and the other topics that came up. Thanks for all the info.; you certainly have a great deal of interesting things to say.
  85. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Boris N

    If Scotland is considered as an English area Brazil should be considered as a Portuguese area.
     
    What's the difference? Yes, they have a thick accent, but >95% of Scots speak English natively anyway. Scotland is not Nigeria or India. And Brazil as well is not Angola.

    But given the will to teach, there isn’t any barrier to near-universal literacy. It is mostly this that is lacking.
     
    No, there isn't. And near-universal literacy was achieved in English-speaking countries already by the end of the 19th century (with some reservation, but whatever). The question has arisen because of a claim that relatively low literacy level among certain groups (Blacks) is due some evil intention. But I think that there will be always a higher risk for some sort of illiteracy in any English-speaking society because of the language itself. Whatever the method may be chosen to teach, reading and writing in English would require much more time and effort than in most languages (except for some Asian languages and few European (namely, French and Danish)). Some Blacks may simply lack that time or an opportunity for that effort for a number of reasons (social-economic, mostly). If the alleged low literacy is due a wrong method, then everybody must have suffered, not only Blacks, don't you think?

    I mentioned Scotland and Brazil as a minor quibble; you seem to agree they are roughly comparable.

    I’m also rather skeptical of the claim that, were we to start teaching blacks to read in Spanish, there will suddenly be a great surge in black literacy and blacks will become the new giants of the literary field. I’m exaggerating, but you see the point.

    I’m willing to accept your opinions on the phonetic and orthographic complexities of various European languages. I’m not quite so willing to accept your opinion on the specific subject of teaching American blacks. You say the will to teach is present. I don’t see that. And while there is in all likelihood not a conspiracy to keep blacks uneducated, it amounts to the same thing when absolutely nothing is done about it because those outside the black sections of the cities don’t care and those inside are apathetic, misled by opportunists, or both. Not that nobody tries, but it amounts to nothing.

    And in certain environments, as Anne mentioned so many comments ago, where the will to teach is present, children do learn. The mass of black children are not so unintelligent that they cannot learn to read, nor do they have a severe dearth of classroom time.

    The causes of illiteracy that we have been discussing affect only a fairly small group of children. It has been shown that the teaching methods used in America often result in “dyslexia” (scare quotes to indicate what we discussed several comments ago) and that English has a more complicated spelling system than various other languages. But neither of these seems to have a great societal impact (so dyslexics take special classes, and all students spend a little longer).

    So this

    If the alleged low literacy is due a wrong method, then everybody must have suffered, not only Blacks, don’t you think?

    is quite true but it also applies to those things that make English harder to learn than Romanian.

    I agree it would be nice if our spelling were simpler, but it isn’t the cause of all our problems (though it may be a contributing factor).

  86. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Boris N

    If Scotland is considered as an English area Brazil should be considered as a Portuguese area.
     
    What's the difference? Yes, they have a thick accent, but >95% of Scots speak English natively anyway. Scotland is not Nigeria or India. And Brazil as well is not Angola.

    But given the will to teach, there isn’t any barrier to near-universal literacy. It is mostly this that is lacking.
     
    No, there isn't. And near-universal literacy was achieved in English-speaking countries already by the end of the 19th century (with some reservation, but whatever). The question has arisen because of a claim that relatively low literacy level among certain groups (Blacks) is due some evil intention. But I think that there will be always a higher risk for some sort of illiteracy in any English-speaking society because of the language itself. Whatever the method may be chosen to teach, reading and writing in English would require much more time and effort than in most languages (except for some Asian languages and few European (namely, French and Danish)). Some Blacks may simply lack that time or an opportunity for that effort for a number of reasons (social-economic, mostly). If the alleged low literacy is due a wrong method, then everybody must have suffered, not only Blacks, don't you think?

    a number of reasons (social-economic, mostly)

    Yes, I quite agree. I’d even say “social”, almost exclusively.

    I’d forgotten this particular sub-thread started out discussing a possible conspiracy to subvert student learning, I was so wrapped up in the discussion itself, and the other topics that came up. Thanks for all the info.; you certainly have a great deal of interesting things to say.

  87. This article details some important and unpleasant truths. With blacks. and it may not be inherent in race; I am confident much, perhaps most, of it is a direct result of Liberal Yankee WASPs in the antebellum era adopting The Negro as the Sacred Victim with which to wage culture war against the whites they – Yankee WASPs – hated and feared most: culturally and religiously conservative white Southerners (primarily the Scots-Irish but also the mostly Celtic-fringe of west and northern England originated Southern old Planter class, and 2) Catholics, especially the irish but also later the Poles and Italians.

    From that history, blacks came to see themselves as the most useful allies of the ‘better’ whites, who waged war against the ‘white trash.’

    All of that history is central to the problems today. Those were made worse with various white scholars assuming that many black Americans came from the lineage of African kings. Hence, blacks were more ‘noble’ by blood than the masses of whites, who were, as one scholar (white feminist writing about how Huck Finn must have been based on a black child) the offspring of the ‘flotsam and jetsom of Europe.’

    Most blacks, even the illiterate, believe that too, that they have more noble ancestry than almost all whites. They are not calling for egalitarianism: they assume themselves to be more deserving than most whites.

  88. @Miro23
    I would agree with that, that it's a cultural problem.

    But BTW, on PISA international academic tests (maths, reading, science) Israel ranks 41st at the level of Greece and Turkey, and well below the European average. Shanghai-China come 1st in all categories with the U.S. at 36th, but it's not clear to what extent the results come from differing cultural attitudes.

    Ashkenazi Jews may score higher, but in my opinion their advancement in the U.S. comes mainly from racial patronage. Racial activism works. If Gentiles hire on merit or diversity and Jews hire on race, over time Gentiles are excluded from key power positions in government , the media, industry, academia and the professions.

    I think it rather obvious that Jews do have a higher IQ average than white Gentiles, but it is not nearly as dramatic as that between whites and blacks. I think you are correct that the strong Jewish propensity to promote Jews every day, all day makes a huge difference.

    That is especially true when you think of white Gentiles harming other white Gentiles, say, starting with the way the Germans see Slavs as inherently inferior and the way the English see Celts as inherently inferior.

    Put the two together, and you get our world, in which rich WASPs seem always allied with Jews against the majority of white Gentiles. And both of them – Jews and rich WASPs – love to promote blacks over all ‘other’ whites.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    " I think it rather obvious that jews do have a higher IQ average than white gentiles".

    Nonsense, as the human mind is not located within or influenced by "Genes", it is to be found outside of the physical construction and within the electrical field surrounding the body, and I am aware that this concept will seem wacky to you and to probably everyone else here.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member since 1973, and pro jazz artist.
  89. @jake
    I think it rather obvious that Jews do have a higher IQ average than white Gentiles, but it is not nearly as dramatic as that between whites and blacks. I think you are correct that the strong Jewish propensity to promote Jews every day, all day makes a huge difference.

    That is especially true when you think of white Gentiles harming other white Gentiles, say, starting with the way the Germans see Slavs as inherently inferior and the way the English see Celts as inherently inferior.

    Put the two together, and you get our world, in which rich WASPs seem always allied with Jews against the majority of white Gentiles. And both of them - Jews and rich WASPs - love to promote blacks over all 'other' whites.

    ” I think it rather obvious that jews do have a higher IQ average than white gentiles”.

    Nonsense, as the human mind is not located within or influenced by “Genes”, it is to be found outside of the physical construction and within the electrical field surrounding the body, and I am aware that this concept will seem wacky to you and to probably everyone else here.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member since 1973, and pro jazz artist.

  90. @CCZ
    “Nevertheless, the vitriol that blacks direct toward whites seems only to grow stronger.”

    You mean, like the below:


    From a Black Lives Matter organizer / leader (Ashleigh Shackelford) “For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests”

    http://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/white-people-blacklivesmatter-protests

    Nothing you have is yours. Let me be clear: Nothing you have is yours. Also, let me be see through: Reparations are not donations, because we are not your charity, tax write off, or good deed for the day. You are living off of stolen resources, stolen land, exploited labor, appropriated culture and the murder of our people. Nothing you have is yours.

    We need housing, transportation, food, clothes, free space for meetings and work space; we need laptops, cell phones, encrypted systems for communication, solar power and LAND. Stop playing. Y’all really thought pulling up to the protest in your Hyundai was gonna be enough? Nah. You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable.

    If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?
     

    This would be the moment where they officially jumped the shark…. if any of them could water ski.

  91. @Jim
    Genetic studies of Ashkenazi Jews show that they are about 60% European and 40% Middle Eastern. The European component is mostly Southern/Mediterranean European. There is little contribution from Northern Europeans.

    Source?

  92. @CCZ
    “Nevertheless, the vitriol that blacks direct toward whites seems only to grow stronger.”

    You mean, like the below:


    From a Black Lives Matter organizer / leader (Ashleigh Shackelford) “For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests”

    http://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/white-people-blacklivesmatter-protests

    Nothing you have is yours. Let me be clear: Nothing you have is yours. Also, let me be see through: Reparations are not donations, because we are not your charity, tax write off, or good deed for the day. You are living off of stolen resources, stolen land, exploited labor, appropriated culture and the murder of our people. Nothing you have is yours.

    We need housing, transportation, food, clothes, free space for meetings and work space; we need laptops, cell phones, encrypted systems for communication, solar power and LAND. Stop playing. Y’all really thought pulling up to the protest in your Hyundai was gonna be enough? Nah. You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable.

    If you really believe that #BlackLivesMatter, ask yourself if you’re willing to die for us and to die to dismantle this system. Are you willing to give up everything you have to make sure Black people can survive, thrive and be safe?
     

    You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable.

    There are two possible remedies here: One is outright compensation, which is what BLM would prefer. The other would be to restore them to the same or a comparable position their forebearers were in just before enslavement. Why is the second option never on the table?

  93. While Steve Jobs Jr. is building a rocket ship to Pluto, blacks in Africa struggle to learn how to flush the toilet…

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