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The Left dominates the culture, but it does not (yet) completely control it—hence, for example, the War On Christmas Resistance, Gamergate, and of course the election of Donald J. Trump. Now Star Wars Episode VIII (The Last Jedi), released in mid-December to resounding applause from Main Stream Media reviewers is tanking, well behind the 2015 Star Wars movie The Force Awakens [Fans Speak with Closed Wallets as “The Last Jedi” Now $175 Mil Behind “Force Awakens”, ShowBiz411.com, December 24, 2017]. It may not be a border wall, but it’s something.

According to RottenTomatoes.com, 92 percent of critics loved The Last Jedi, compared an audience score of only 52 percent. the lowest audience score of any Star Wars film. The MSM is blaming the Alt-Right, although this debacle is far beyond the power of a still-nascent movement. [‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’: Alt-Right Group Claims They Messed With Rotten Tomatoes Score, ComicBook.com, by Joseph Schmidt, December 22, 2017] Toy sales–which brought Lucas a surprising amount of money for the first Star Wars films–are also tanking. The simple truth: the primarily white fan boys, whose repeat viewings of prior entries in the series drove box office records, just don’t like the new movie. [‘The Last Jedi’ had a historic $151 million decline in its 2nd weekend at the box office, by Jason Guerassio , Business Insider, December 24, 2017]

Not surprising. An astonishing New York Times article makes clear the anti-white direction the Star Wars franchise is headed, after Disney took over originator Lucasfilm in 2012:

Five days a week, in the foggy hills of San Francisco, 11 writers and artists discuss the minutiae of storm troopers. This is the Lucasfilm story group, and its members hold the keys to everything “Star Wars”: Under their guidance, the franchise’s narratives are linked no matter the platform, whether it’s television, games, theme parks, publishing, merchandise or, of course, film. With their ideas shaping each character and setting, they don’t see themselves as gatekeepers but as partners furthering the stories their creators want to tell.

[Disney brand manager] Kathleen Kennedy founded the group in 2012 when she succeeded George Lucas as president of Lucasfilm, putting Kiri Hart [right] a former film and TV writer, in charge of the unit. Ms. Hart’s first move was to make the story group entirely female, starting with Rayne Roberts and Carrie Beck. Both women had experience in film development but had also worked in other arenas — Ms. Roberts in magazine publishing, and Ms. Beck with the Sundance Institute.

[The Women Who Run the ‘Star Wars’ Universe, by Nathalia Holt, December 22, 2017]

The Holt article is nothing more than a celebration of these multiracial SJW commissars and their drive to de-whiten the Star Wars universe: “In addition to maintaining the continuity of the “Star Wars” universe, they aim to increase its diversity. This goal has sometimes led to struggles over their female characters.” Holt exults:

…women spoke 6.3 percent of dialogue in “A New Hope,” the 1977 film that kicked off the franchise. In contrast, women accounted for 27.8 percent of all dialogue in “The Force Awakens” in 2015. Even more promising, in “Rogue One” (2016) nonwhite characters accounted for 44.7 percent of all dialogue, a marked increase from zero in the 1977 original.

Diversity and racial quotas are now an exact science in the Star Wars cosmology.

Los Angeles Times film writer Jen Yamato tweeted about the significance for fans of color on Twitter, noting:

“The Last Jedi is so beautifully human, populist, funny, and surprising. I cried when one POC heroine got her moment because films like these leave their mark on entire generations — and representation matters”

Representation does matter, Ms. Yamato, which is why Disney mandated the evil First Order, previously known as the Empire, be cast as almost entirely white males—because we must constantly reinforce white males are the bad guys, right?

When Star Wars first came out in 1977, America was a far different country. A far whiter country. Back in the days of the original trilogy–Star Wars: A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, the Rebel Alliance was just as white as the Empire/ First Order. But as the cultural war changed to being overtly anti-white, so the good guys of Star Wars became more diverse and non-white.

Indeed, the multicultural, diverse band of seemingly Social Justice Space Warriors (a pink haired Laura Dern assuming control of the Resistance forces is perhaps a gratuitous embodiment of the Left in 2017) occupying a galaxy far, far away was clearly a primary selling point to MSM reviewers: Star Wars: The Last Jedi Will Bother Some People. Good, by Angela Watercutter, Wired, December 15, 2017]. The message of the new Star Wars franchise since Disney purchased the rights from George Lucas can be distilled into this formula:

  • White = bad
  • Nonwhite (white females are honorary nonwhites, until they aren’t) = good

The problem with this was very clear in the opening week’s demographics—primarily white males:

Men 25 and older made up 42% of the opening weekend audience, according to PostTrak polling, and 89% rated “Last Jedi” positively. Women younger than 25 represented the smallest segment of the audience at just 10%; women 25 and older were 23% of the audience, and men under 25 accounted for 25%.

About 62% of all ticket buyers were white; 15% were Latino, 10% Asian and 9% black, according to PostTrak.

[‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’ dominates the box office with second-largest opening — ever, Los Angeles Times, by Sonaiya Kelly, December 17, 2017]

And regardless of what these young white men told pollsters, it’s now clear they’re not coming back.

One of the last to understand the new racial hierarchy is Luke Skywalker himself, the actor Mark Hamill. He has very publicly denounced the new direction , saying “I fundamentally disagree with virtually everything you’ve decided about my character.” Obviously, Hamill does not understand that the blond, blued-eyed Jedi Knight he portrayed on film is unacceptable in our more tolerant, SJW-approved world [Mark Hamill Rips His Role In ‘Last Jedi’: ‘He’s Not My Luke Skywalker’, Huffington Post, by Ron Dicker, December 22, 2017]

Since Hamill’s character told Princess Leia in A New Hope, “I’m Luke Skywalker, I’m here to save you,” whiteness has been completely deconstructed to be the embodiment of evil, an unforgivable microaggression itself.

In our more enlightened era, diversity is here to save us, Mr. Hamill. This is why your beloved Luke Skywalker was cast so indifferently in The Last Jedi. (No doubt wanting to remain employed, Hamill has since groveled: Mark Hamill Regrets Criticizing ‘Last Jedi’ Version of Luke Skywalker, by Ryan Parker, Hollywood Reporter, December 26, 2017)

Stefan Molyneux, one of the more interesting thinkers on the Right (see interview with VDARE.com’s Peter Brimelow), noticed something about Skywalker’s status in The Last Jedi: he’s one of Newsweek’s gloatingly-named Beached White Males:

“So Luke Skywalker has checked out of society—ha, isn’t that interesting? He’s a white male who’s checked out of society. And we see this all over the place with white males, right? I mean, they’re not happy. Neither is Luke Skywalker happy. He’s got this bitter, gristled, half-homeless kind of determination to survive another day but for no particular purpose other than to watch the slow extinguishing of his own possibilities and his own life.”

[Molyneux: The Last Jedi Is About the Oppression of White Men, Patheos, by Ed Brayton, December 20, 2017]

This Star Wars trend, developing for some time, was exacerbated by Trump Derangement syndrome. When Rogue One: A Stars Wars Story was released in December 2016, a month after Trump’s victory, its writers directly said Donald Trump and white people are the embodiment of evil:

In the wake of this week’s U.S. election, the symbol of Star Wars’ Rebellion had been adopted by many fans protesting the victory of Donald Trump — and now, two of the writers of next month’s Rogue One: A Star Wars Story have referenced the relationship between that movie and the current political reality on social media. Chris Weitz tweeted the following Friday morning: “Please note that the Empire is a white supremacist (human) organization.” Gary Whitta, the original writer on the project, responded in kind, tweeting: “Opposed by a multi-cultural group led by brave women.”

Weitz’s tweet followed his praise for this op-ed piece from CBR.com, which explicitly connects Rogue One to this week’s U.S. elections, with writer Brett White calling the movie “the most relevant movie of 2016,” explaining, “When I look at the Rogue One trailers, I see what I want from America. I see a multicultural group standing strong together led by a rebellious and courageous woman.”

[‘Rogue One’ Writers Subtly Protest Trump With Rebellion Safety-Pin Logo, Hollywood Reporter, 11-10-16]

White Americans see what Brett White wants from America too. The fact that they seem to be are tuning out and rejecting this message is cause for hope.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. There’s a lot more than ridiculous anti-white male malice. Television and movies have for decades implemented brain-rotting quick-cuts, shaky camera, pan/zoom and flashing brilliant strobes into your eyes.

    Our kids have never had a television so they can’t bear to watch the majority of modern productions. They love old movies, and we’re on a Charlie Chan bent right now.

    In those Charlie Chan movies, the Asian is the smartest. The whites are next. Followed by the blacks. The women are feminine and beautiful. They’ve seen Mel Brooks’ Blazing Saddles where white people say the word “nigger” all through the movie in a way that mocks the speaker, not the recipient.

    There isn’t anything even remotely enjoyable about most of what Hollywood is putting out now.

    Other kids can watch it while ours would rather eat rusty nails. It must be that all the years of television, government school, and media has programmed their brain for it.

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  2. In a way, the New STAR WARS Makes Perfect Sense Given the Change in Ownership from George Lucas to Disney. Force reflects real power.

    Richard Spencer in the video above complains about how the New STAR WARS doesn’t respect or conform to the original vision created by George Lucas. And many others have lodged similar complaints. Across the political spectrum, many are not pleased with the new series and especially the new movie because it deviates from the original vision that they grew up with. Many adult audience members spent their formative yrs watching the original series, the first three released from 1977 to 1983 and the second trilogy from 1999 to 2005. So, they have a fixed idea of what STAR WARS universe and the Force are about. Therefore, when confronted with the revisions and narrative-thematic purging of the New Series, they are bewildered and even exasperated by Disney’s lack of ‘respect’ for Lucas’ original vision. (But do they ever ask why Lucas still deserves respect when he sold his baby to Disney for billions of shekels?)

    Now, the complainers have a point. The new series may well indeed violate the core principles of Lucas’ original vision. It may go against the spirit of the original incarnation under Lucas’ command. But they are overlooking certain key facts about the Way of Power in culture. What goes for Power goes for the Force. The Force in STAR WARS is whatever those with the possession of copyright say it is. The Force was what it was as long as Lucas had control over it. But with Jews at Disney now owning STAR WARS, the Force is whatever THEY make it out to be. It’s as Carl Schmitt said of the nature of law and power. No law exists outside the reality of power. Basic laws are vaguely worded, and it is the Power that decides the meaning and force of those words. So, when Jews gained control of US culture and jurisprudence, the Constitution came to mean Open Borders, Diversity, Anti-White Dogma(to enforce white submissivism necessary to serve Jewish dominance), and ‘Gay Marriage’. Americanism and Constitutionalism were always shaped and determined by the Power. After all, what is Free Speech? Jews once used to say Free Speech means all speech, from far right to far left, should be free.Back then, Jews feared censorship of Jewish radicalism and pornography(big profits for Jews) by traditional Christian power. But once Jews gained supreme power in the US, they came to fear Free Speech as criticism of Jewish Power. Therefore, Jews redefined Free Speech as excluding ‘hate speech’. Since Jewish Power controls the meaning of ‘hate speech’, Zionist speech(that demeans Palestinians) is not ‘hate speech’, but BDS speech that calls for justice for Palestinians must be criminalized as ‘hate’. The Power decides what is ‘hate’, and that means Jewish elites with supreme power in the US get to denounce and suppress certain speech as ‘hateful’.

    What goes for Reality goes for Fantasy. The rules of fantasy will always be controlled by those with power over the fantasy. So, it doesn’t matter what Lucas did with the original STAR WARS. It doesn’t matter how the Force was manifested in the first six movies. The fact is the power of the Force has gone over to Jews at Disney, and that means Jews will alter the Force to suit their agendas and biases. It’s simple as that. So, when Richard Spencer and others talk of STAR WARS as a universe existing independent of copyright ownership and moneyed control, they are being naive. They are presuming that there really is a Core Canonical Principles of the STAR WARS and the dynamics of the Force. No, such was all make-believe and can easily be altered based on whomever is now in control.
    Spencer has emphasized over and over how it’s foolish to believe in Constitutionalism as a principle independent of power. He has castigated the so-called True Conservatives who claim to stand for abstract American Values of Liberty and Individualism. His point is that American Constitutionalism will always be determined by those with real power. The Constitution can be molded to mean just about anything. At one time, it even justified slavery and the ethnic cleansing of American Indians. And the ‘internment’ of the Japanese. And censorship of obscene material offensive to Christians. The Constitution allowed all such censorship and restrictions in the past because the White Christian Majority could will the Constitution to support and defend certain values and interests. But once Jews gained control of the Constitution, the US came to be all about ISRAEL FIRST, favoring Zionists over all other peoples(esp the Palestinians), Open Borders Immigration to turn whites into a minority, and etc. The Constitution now serves the interests of Zionist-Supremacism. And since Jews have chosen Homomania as the proxy agent of Jewish Globlaism, the Worship of Homos and Trannies has become the new christianity or Queertianity. The Christian Church is like the Constitution. In the end, it will be what those in power say it’s about. The Power decides and molds & twists the presumed core principles to its will.

    If Spencer is so perceptive about the relation between Power and Laws, why is he so naive and earnest in his assessment of the new STAR WARS movie? He seems baffled as to why the new series violated and betrayed what STAR WARS is really supposed to be about. But his idea of ‘real Star Wars’ only applies to the franchise that was owned by Lucas. As long as Lucas had power over his baby, he could do as he pleased. But when he sold the Force to Disney, Jews had the power over the Force, and they could bend it to serve their own biases and agendas. It’s like if you give your kid up for adoption, the adoptive parents can do whatever they want to with it. Jews can adopt a non-Jew and raise it as a Jew. And of course, the new STAR WARS reflects this reality. What are the agendas of Jewish globalists? It is white feminism. Jews use feminism or man-hate to drive a wedge between white men and white women. By thus setting white women against white men, white race is weakened, and it is easier for Jews to maintain control over white goyim. Jews also push race-mixing to destroy racial and ethnic identities. A people with confused identities are less likely to unite and rise up against the ruling elites. It is also a way to demoralize white males and destroy their pride. By especially promoting interracism between black males and white females, Jews send a message that black males are superior studs while white males are either dorky cucks or wussy homos. And the new STAR WARS is geared to turning its white heroine into a race-mixer. We see this all around in TV commercials, TV shows, and movies. Jews want to make the next James Bond black. Jews want to put the black male on the pedestal as the top alpha male who deserves to take white women. As for white males, they are either old farts who should die or dorky cucks who should delight in their own defeat and humiliation.

    Jews also push for massive ‘immigration’ to increase Diversity. Why do Jews do this? Jewish elites fear a homogeneous population that might unite against Jewish power. So, Jews seek to increase Diversity and set various goyim against one another. That way, the goyim won’t be able to unite as one people against Jewish elites. And of course, the new STAR WARS is all about Diversity, a weapon of Jews against native populations of any nation. Meanwhile, virtually all the villains are white, especially white males.

    In the end, the Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews? According to the original spirit of the Torah, God cannot be manifest in human form. And God’s Covenant is with Jews, not with all of humanity. But Christianity had Jesus as Son of God, a human figure walking among mankind. And Christianity said the new covenant is with all of humanity. In the end, it didn’t matter how much Jews protested. The fact is when the idea of God passed over to Christian and later Muslim gentiles, they changed or twisted the principles to serve their own interests and agendas. Jewish concept of God was limited only to spaces in which Jews had the power. In gentile spaces where Christians and Muslims had control over the idea of God, His meaning and design could be altered, even drastically, to serve interests inimical to Jews.

    So, what happened to STAR WARS isn’t much different from what happened to the concept of the Jewish God once its ownership passed over to gentiles. Via Christian conversion, many gentiles became believers in God, and this belief gave them ownership of the meaning of God. And in their self-interest, they altered and violated many principles so dear to Jews who had once held sole ownership of their God.
    Likewise, STAR WARS owned by Lucas and beloved by so many people had canonical value only as long as its ownership remained with those who remained loyal to the original vision. But once the ownership changed hands, the New Masters were bound to make the franchise serve their own biases and interests.
    This happens with every newspaper or magazine. It doesn’t matter what its original masthead declaration of principles was. The new owners will bend the purpose to their own will. This is why The New Republic changed drastically when it was taken over by Neocons under the tutelage of Martin Peretz. And then, once ownership changed once more, it turned into just some homo-globalist hipster rag. Or consider Huffington Post. Despite its name, Ariana Huffington has nothing to do with the new incarnation, and it’s changed considerably from what it had been under her control.

    If Alt Right has gained ownership of STARS WARS franchise, they would have made it serve its vision and interests. Richard Spencer as producer-director of STAR WARS would have made the Empire the good guys, and of course, many fans would have screamed Bloody Murder in protest. It’s like Stanley Kubrick did his OWN thing with THE SHINING to the never-ending ire of Stephen King who felt Kubrick betrayed his core concept and meaning. But as King had sold movie rights to Kubrick, he was helpless to stop it.
    Indeed, if there is such a thing as Alt Right STAR WARS fanfiction, the narratives likely serve the biases of White Nationalism. But since Jews of Disney own STAR WARS, the franchise is now used to further the Jewish Supremacist agenda of globalism.

    Same thing happened with dialectical communism. The original theory by Karl Marx prophesied that conditions would worsen to the point where the working class would rise up to overthrow the bourgeoisie. Since the Proletariat was essential to this revolution, only an industrialized nation with a majority prole population could undergo the great tranformation. But when Lenin and Stalin took control of the theory, it was altered so that even a backward semi-industrial nation like Russia could have a communist revolution. Spontaneous uprising by the working class was no longer necessary. A radical vanguard with the support of secret police apparatus could pull it off. Later, Mao altered the meaning of Marxism even more by arguing that a communist revolution could happen with a peasant army. So, despite the original canonical meaning of Marxist theory, in the real world of actual practice, Marxism could be molded to be anything by the powers-that-be. If Maoism said Marxism could prevail in an agricultural society, that was the official lore of the land.And later, when reformers took control of China, communism could mean market economics. So, even as the Chinese Communist Party maintained the symbolism of Mao, the Red Flag, and revolutionary pageantry, the New Way was about buying-and-selling, trade with capitalist powers, and getting rich. Indeed, consider how Che Guevara became linked with capitalist pop culture and hedonism even though he hated Rock music, hippies, and materialism.

    So, if we apply Carl-Schmitt-ian analysis to the new STAR WARS, no one should be surprised that the new owners of the Force changed the meaning to suit their ethno-socio-economic purposes. No school of laws, no work of culture, and no set of principles exist in some pure form in a vacuum. They always exist in a world of people with competing interests and agendas. Indeed, even among Christians, different sects disagree on the meaning of Jesus. In many denominations today, homomaniacs have taken over and insist that the faith is about worshiping homos and trannies. And warmongering patriots believe that Christianity is about the flag and guns. So, expecting the STAR WARS universe to remain pristine or resist heretical ideas is wishful thinking. STAR WARS will be whatever those with ownership of it make it to be.
    It’s like the Hagia Sophia Mosque in Istanbul. It was originally built as a Christian Cathedral, but Muslims altered the meaning. At one time, Ottoman Turks even altered the Parthenon to serve as a place of prayer for Muslims. But then, Christians had done the same to Pagan Temples. While Christians destroyed some pagan temples, they altered some to serve Jesus than the pagan gods. If we see STAR WARS as a kind of pop mythology or fanboy church, its core meaning will change to the tune of whoever has control over it. Consider the evolution of the Parthenon depending on who held power over Athens.

    Another complaint oft-heard from the detractors of the new series is that the nature of the Force has change considerably from the original series. They object to how the Force has become so easy with the young heroine. And Spencer wonders how someone with such humble background could have the Force. But, they are forgetting that George Lucas himself kept changing the nature of the Force. In PHANTOM MENACE, he altered the Force from some mysterious essence to something that can be medically detected in blood. And for those who have problems with the young heroine’s humble background in the new series, the old series would have us believe that some slave woman could give a miracle virgin birth to some kid who, at the tender age of 7, can win a hyper-drive chariot race and man spaceships and blow up seasoned enemy pilots. So, if a 7 yr old squirt can do all that, is it really so strange to see a young heroine do ‘badass’ things?

    Also, if a female slave non-entity(in PHANTOM MENACE) could give a miracle birth to some kid with the Force, why is it so surprising that the heroine in the new series could have super-Force despite being born to humble parents? Besides, if the 20th century taught us anything, it was that those from the humblest backgrounds could become giants of history: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.

    As for the heroine’s ease with mastering the Force, we need to understand that pop culture reflects the times. When Lucas made STAR WARS, power was still institutionalized. One had to go through the proper institutions/channels or gain access to big industries to be somebody. To be an influential journalist, one had to gain position at CBS or New York Times. To be an influential thinker, one had to have a position at Harvard or be promoted by top publishing companies and the media. To be a famous cultural celebrity, one had to be hired by TV, Hollywood, radio, or music industry. Even though there were alternative venues and underground artists, it was a tough climb to gain any kind of success, at least immediately. And Lucas struggled in this world. For him to gain access to film technology, he had to work hard and long and make the climb. To gain the Force, one had to go through the institutions controlled by high priests.

    But we now live in the internet age. Even a young person in a small town now has access to more news and information than New York Times did in the pre-internet age. When Lucas grew up, it was difficult to see foreign films. Only college towns and big cities showed them, and one had to wait long time to see certain movies. It was nearly impossible for anyone to see something when he wanted.
    Today, even someone living in the boonies can watch all sorts of movies from all parts of the world on the internet. Even a kid has more access to World Cinema than top film scholars did prior to the internet age.
    Also, even kids carry around smartphones that serve not only as phones but as internet screens, cameras, recording devices, and etc. It’s like their light sabers.
    Thus, the Force has gone from institutional and individual in our world. Before the internet, someone like PewDiePie and Stefan Molyneux didn’t have a chance at celebrity-hood. Institutions would not have given them the platform to express their views or pull their antics. But internet has been the great equalizer. Anyone can reach the world from inside their bedrooms. Some of these ‘amateurs’ have more fans and viewership than mainstream media do.
    So, the revision of the Force in the new series could very well reflect social change. Young people with interesting ideas, music, opinions, personalities, or shtick no longer have to make the Long March through the Institutions to say their say, gain a fanbase, develop a cult, and even become fabulously rich. Even demented Andrew Anglin has gained legendary anti-hero status because of the internet. Even with the attempts to shut down Daily Stormer, Anglin still has enough Troll Force to mess with the Narrative.

    Alt Right should know this since its rise owes so much to the internet, the great equalizer that has made it possible for oddballs like Mark Dice and Styxhexenhammer666 to get huge followings. This is why Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, and Google-Search are working in tandem with ADL to rig the game and ban certain voices deemed ‘hateful’, but the nature of the internet favors individuals over institutions. It has democratized the Force, for good or for ill.

    So, given all these changes and developments in society, is it any wonder that the nature of the Force has changed in the new series? Whereas Luke had to go through the institutions to gain his power, Rey doesn’t. The Force has been digitalized and democratized.

    Internet and gadgets like smartphones have empowered individuals in ways that were unforeseeable when Lucas conceived STAR WARS. Just consider how the rise of high-tech allowed young ones to become overnight moguls and billionaires. Prior to the internet, could someone like Mark Zuckerberg become so rich so fast?

    Now, I’m not saying LAST JEDI is a good movie. I haven’t seen it. I did see FORCE AWAKENS, and it was terrible. But, we should not be surprised that Force will change along with the change in ownership and will reflect social transformations all around us. In the end, most pop culture, even when set in the distant past or fantasy world, are more reflections of prevailing fashions and trends of the moment than works of purity remaining faithful to a set of core principles inside a bubble.

    Internet made even this young woman a celebrity and a known factor in culture:

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    Thanks for this great analysis PrissFactor.
    , @Anonymous

    Internet and gadgets like smartphones have empowered individuals in ways that were unforeseeable when Lucas conceived STAR WARS. Just consider how the rise of high-tech allowed young ones to become overnight moguls and billionaires. Prior to the internet, could someone like Mark Zuckerberg become so rich so fast?
     
    It's all an illusion, a hormone-driven gigantic mutant chicken. The illusion of knowledge, the illusion of skills. All these connected gadgetries do not make people more connected, knowledgeable, capable of processing information, performing analysis or drawing correct conclusions. For that you need time, quiet time of reflection and lots of study of contradictory opinions and statements. Often found in very unfunny works.

    Talking Jedi and martial arts. There is a reason the Asians have a tradition of "the way" - skill acquisition is a long process, it demands discipline and dedication and ego control and frustration management. All of these qualities seem to become elusive. Instant success sells. People demand fast-food skill acquisition and actually believe they can get it. Hop over to a 2-week course of Krav Maga, problem solved. Get immediate Jedi skills, why not. It takes the pain out of having visit courses for 10 years - or even a lifetime.

    I hear Koreans dojos have degenerated to the point of becoming grade and fad selling machines - sad but not surprising.

    Now, getting rich à la Zuckerberg is about being the right guy at the right time and the last one standing in that particular niche, but it has also a lot to do with bubble economics (cash is cheap, there is a lot of it) and "sharp practices": advertisement-driven revenue, selling profiles of other people's behaviour (aka. "if it's free, the product is you") and I suppose, smooching the right people on the Govnmt side.


    Internet made even this young woman a celebrity and a known factor in culture:

     

    I don't know her. Is this actually Boxxy?
    , @Miro23
    I don't know who Carl Schmitt was, but "No law exists outside the reality of power" surely explains what's going on. It's the capture of US centers of power by Jewish-Zionist activists enabling a race war against Anglo Americans.

    It’s as Carl Schmitt said of the nature of law and power. No law exists outside the reality of power. Basic laws are vaguely worded, and it is the Power that decides the meaning and force of those words. So, when Jews gained control of US culture and jurisprudence, the Constitution came to mean Open Borders, Diversity, Anti-White Dogma(to enforce white submissivism necessary to serve Jewish dominance), and ‘Gay Marriage’. Americanism and Constitutionalism were always shaped and determined by the Power. After all, what is Free Speech? Jews once used to say Free Speech means all speech, from far right to far left, should be free. Back then, Jews feared censorship of Jewish radicalism and pornography(big profits for Jews) by traditional Christian power. But once Jews gained supreme power in the US, they came to fear Free Speech as criticism of Jewish Power. Therefore, Jews redefined Free Speech as excluding ‘hate speech’. Since Jewish Power controls the meaning of ‘hate speech’, Zionist speech(that demeans Palestinians) is not ‘hate speech’, but BDS speech that calls for justice for Palestinians must be criminalized as ‘hate’. The Power decides what is ‘hate’, and that means Jewish elites with supreme power in the US get to denounce and suppress certain speech as ‘hateful’.
     
    Exactly right.

    But once Jews gained control of the Constitution, the US came to be all about ISRAEL FIRST, favoring Zionists over all other peoples(esp. the Palestinians), Open Borders Immigration to turn whites into a minority, and etc. The Constitution now serves the interests of Zionist-Supremacism. And since Jews have chosen Homomania as the proxy agent of Jewish Globalism, the Worship of Homos and Trannies has become the new Christianity or Queertianity. The Christian Church is like the Constitution. In the end, it will be what those in power say it’s about. The Power decides and molds & twists the presumed core principles to its will.
     
    And the best explanation ever of religion:

    In the end, the Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews? According to the original spirit of the Torah, God cannot be manifest in human form. And God’s Covenant is with Jews, not with all of humanity. But Christianity had Jesus as Son of God, a human figure walking among mankind. And Christianity said the new covenant is with all of humanity. In the end, it didn’t matter how much Jews protested. The fact is when the idea of God passed over to Christian and later Muslim gentiles, they changed or twisted the principles to serve their own interests and agendas. Jewish concept of God was limited only to spaces in which Jews had the power. In gentile spaces where Christians and Muslims had control over the idea of God, His meaning and design could be altered, even drastically, to serve interests inimical to Jews.
     
    Also, the interesting point that Jews have taken over the Establishment, which should have been enough for control (until recently). But now they're having unforeseen trouble with the flood of digital information washing around their power structure, so they're having to enlist the help of their allies at Facebook, Google etc.

    However, to really make this work, they need a US internet firewall (commercially bad for Facebook and Google), and they have to physically remove dissidents from society (not so easy). In other words they now need pure Totalitarianism - which is a whole different story - and it's going to be obvious what's happening to all the Rest of the World and even the dumbest Americans.

    But that doesn't mean that they won't do it.

    They'll still go for it, because they have to, with some sort of manufactured Emergency, calling for a COG (Continuity of Government) Dictatorship. In fact, they're probably working on it right now.

    , @Anonymous

    So, what happened to STAR WARS isn’t much different from what happened to the concept of the Jewish God once its ownership passed over to gentiles. Via Christian conversion, many gentiles became believers in God, and this belief gave them ownership of the meaning of God. And in their self-interest, they altered and violated many principles so dear to Jews who had once held sole ownership of their God.
     
    Holding up the (Jewish) Disney corporation acquisition of (Gentile) George Lucas's SW property as an example of the same process as the formation of the (Gentile) Christian heritage on the mouldering bones of the Hebraic (Jewish) tradition reads like a sort of Satanic inversion.
    , @Allen
    Yeah, you obviously have no real understanding about the environment of 1st century Judaism and the rise of Christianity or even Islam (not that I have any deep knowledge about the later).

    First, it was the Jewish apostles who reached out to the gentiles and proclaimed that God's kingdom was not synonymous with the ethnic nation of Israel. Even the most ardent skeptics typically won't deny that it was the Jewish Paul who spearheaded spreading Christianity to the gentiles and accepting them as equals alongside Jewish converts. Apart from this, first century Judaism and parts of the Old Testament like Isaiah already had the concept that the reign of the Messiah would somehow benefit all peoples in the world. The church fathers and new testament authors emphasized continuity with the old testament not dismissive hand waving, or contemptuous subversion. Trying to liken the gospel message, which the apostles were willing to die for, with a corporate buyout is a bizarre.

    Likewise somehow insisting that Disney's ability to make new stories using their interpretation of "the force" resembles the rise of Christianity is odd to say the least. Cultural and religious groups are often self-selected and typically self-perpetuating. The Christian, Jewish, and Islamic traditions all coexisted and continue to coexist because their adherents believed their faith contained the absolute revelation of truth. Now the dominant group could of course broadcast their interpretations in art, government, etc. but that didn't prevent the other interpretations from existing. and of course, truth, meaning what actually corresponds with reality, exists independent of interpretation and cultural force. The contentions that Christ merely died as a man, rose as the Son of God, or did not die at all conflict and only one can be correct, in the sense that only one can be an accurate description of what happened in history.

    On a side note, I can't help but object to some right-wingers attempts at conflating modern secular Jews with the Jews of ancient times. Acknowledging that modern secular Jews are behind a lot of subversive movements, the same cannot be said of 1st century Jews. Like it or not, it was the pagan Greco-Roman world that was all for pedophilia, homosexuality, abortion, and occasionally female empowerment (the last one is debatable but one can still find more feminist precursors in Rome than the old testament). Of course it is now Christianity that fights against these forces and secular Jews that support them, illustrating that it is the Christian church that carries on as the spiritual children of Abraham, as the New Testament and church fathers insisted.
    , @Jake
    "Richard Spencer in the video above complains about how the New STAR WARS doesn’t respect or conform to the original vision created by George Lucas. And many others have lodged similar complaints. ...

    Now, the complainers have a point. The new series may well indeed violate the core principles of Lucas’ original vision. It may go against the spirit of the original incarnation under Lucas’ command."

    Ideas have consequences. Lucas' original idea was based on his romanticizing of East Asian religion and pseudo-philosophy. He was using fiction to replace Western civilization, to replace Christian morality and identity, to replace the concept of Christian knight with galactic pagan Jedi. All of which means eventually replacing the people of the civilization.

    This mess is inherent in the original.
    , @Stonehands

    Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews?
     
    You are misleading the readers in order to put an extra veneer of authority on your otherwise thoughtful analysis regarding the Nazi jurist Schmitt's conceptualization of Power.

    Peter, Paul, Matthew, John and most of the other disciples and converts to Christianity were in fact Hebrews.
    Paul -himself a Pharisee- was educated by one of the most learned of rabbis- Gamaliel.

    Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition
     
    None other than Jesus Christ rebuked the scribes and Pharisees!

    “You make the scriptures (Torah) of no account by your traditions of men.”

    The problem with Gods chosen people is that they epitomize the fallen nature of man. A proud and stiff- necked people given over to greed and fornication and idolatry. They gleefully slaughtered the prophets who predicted their impending doom and subsequent enslavement (Judgement from God) under the Babylonians.

    Thus began the scriptural departure from revealed religion to that of the Talmud Bavli- the wise traditions of thousands of rabbis that expounds broadly on non- Biblical topics.

    The Holy Spirit inspired the apostle Paul to admonished the Romans:

    Her eyes (Israel ) have been darkened...

    11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.


    There is the Torah ( Old Covenant) and the New Covenant. One concise theme runs through this received manual of salvation (Gods revelation.. or free gift of Grace to all mankind)

    The blood sacrifice for sin. Jesus Christ.


    Not written in ink, nor chiseled in tablets of stone; but inscribed on the fleshy tables of the heart.
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  3. Star Wars lobotomized sci-fi genre.

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    It's for a lobotomized audience. I haven't watched a single one of the Transformers series, but I keep reading how much money the films keep making. Idiot film for idiot audiences.

    I take my kids to some of the new kids movies, but I have fallen asleep in every one of them save one.

    Give me good Japanese cinema (not dubbed) from the 50's - 70's any day (many films which form the archetypes for many Hollywood plots anyway).

    Peace.
    , @Priss Factor
    Star Wars lobotomized sci-fi genre.

    Classic exchange.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky9-eIlHzAE
    , @Sergey Krieger
    I did not know Star wars was sci fi. Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially Foundation series. Star Wars original book is unreadable. Total garbage. I tried to read it long time ago without much success.
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  4. Talha says:
    @Andrei Martyanov
    Star Wars lobotomized sci-fi genre.

    It’s for a lobotomized audience. I haven’t watched a single one of the Transformers series, but I keep reading how much money the films keep making. Idiot film for idiot audiences.

    I take my kids to some of the new kids movies, but I have fallen asleep in every one of them save one.

    Give me good Japanese cinema (not dubbed) from the 50′s – 70′s any day (many films which form the archetypes for many Hollywood plots anyway).

    Peace.

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    many films which form the archetypes for many Hollywood plots anyway
     
    Star Wars is a bastardization of Herbert's Dune, from the so called "Force" being a pathetic pseudo-religious derivative of the Weirding Way, as an example, to the whole geopolitical concept. Granted, of course, that Frank Herbert's son, grossly under-talented when compared to his father bastardized Dune sequels and turned them into...Star Wars. No surprise when one of his collaborators is the guy who writes this Star Wars tedious crap. Watching warfare in SW is altogether a very painful tactical and operational experience, the same goes to their combat technology, especially a ground one--I guess this technology was conceived by creators of F-35 and Littoral Combat Ships. Today's Hollywood is a sewer, it is over for them, bar some once in a while gems accidentally produced under the radar of their cultural and social perversion.
    , @Anonymous
    When I was a little kid, my dad took me to see 2001, but it creeped me out . He then took me to watch Star Wars and I loved it!

    I did not make my father proud.

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  5. iffen says:

    Whoa!

    Who’s the nubile cutie in the last section? Does she have that wide pelvis that is so good for the survival of those big headed babies?

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  6. KenH says:

    I lost interest halfway through the first Stars Wars movie remake. The racial and political overtones were obvious as was the message that the rainbow invariably triumphs over whiteness. Like most movies it’s more psychological warfare against whites and multicult propaganda dressed up as entertainment.

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    Try looking at recent King Arthur movies.

    Types everywhere that were never involved originally.

    Dumb blacks in shiny helmets and wielding Excalibur type swords is pure comedy.

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  7. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    From the days of McCarthy and the outing of various infiltrators in Hollywood and other media we can see that there’s always been this intention to use mass media as a vehicle for propaganda. Now they’ve gotten fairly bold and actually announce their intentions with little fear since they’ve now got a substantial part of the population on their side. Early media reports gave this movie glowing praise so as to hype sales. Reality apparently has set in as word of mouth travels. Almost all media is unwatchable, they slip propaganda in into almost anything and everything. I dropped out many years ago and won’t support them slapping me in the face. I’ve got too much self-respect to play along with any of this and suggest everyone do likewise. Let them get their money from someone else.

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    Right on. Why does anyone suffer this crap that is pop culture?
    I live in Philly and am surrounded by history.
    From Franklin to Coltrane l walk in some Giant Steps...
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  8. Qasim says:

    At the end of the movie, Finn (who is black) battles the head stormtrooper, after dealing the fatal blow and damaging its mask, you can see a small portion of white skin and one gleaming blue eye before it falls to its death in a fiery inferno. To me it seemed to be a pretty explicit image of an evil white being consumed in the fiery pit of hell as a just recompense for sin and oppression.

    So far, I haven’t read anything else that makes this connection, was it just me?

    This article (justifiably) focuses on this film’s anti-white animus. I also was shocked at the anti-religious themes. They made a point to keep referring to the Jedi as a religious order, and then Luke decides to go to the temple which holds the scrolls containing 1000 generations of inherited Jedi wisdom and burn it all down. Then Yoda comes, not to stop him, but to expedite the process!! It is the ultimate rejection of organized religion, holy books, traditionalism, patriarchy, and respecting the hard-won wisdom of one’s elders and ancestors.

    The thing that really angers me is that my son just got into Star Wars a few years ago, and I really encouraged it, we have really bonded over watching the old films and the new cartoons. I was already troubled by the SJW themes in the cartoon but let it pass, it was nice to have my son think I am so cool for knowing who is who and filling in all the backstory details. To now see these damn films are trying to indoctrinate him in values that are in complete contradiction to what I believe and what drew me to Star Wars as a kid in the first place angers me to no end.

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    To me it seemed to be a pretty explicit image of an evil white being consumed in the fiery pit of hell as a just recompense for sin and oppression.

     

    I saw the film last night and thought precisely the same thing. That imagery was not an accident.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Stop .. showing ... ANY ... Hollywood .. movies to your children ... already. Damn, what does it take, people? Stop being naive. Stop trusting that maybe THIS movie or show isn't so bad. Just stop.

    Toss the TV and eschew internet programming and stop financing the brainwashing, perversion and demoralization of your children. Please.
    , @bartok

    To now see these damn films are trying to indoctrinate him in values that are in complete contradiction to what I believe and what drew me to Star Wars as a kid in the first place angers me to no end.
     
    The Sith / First Order are the good guys. Tell your son that, kids are very adaptable. The Jedi are old ladies and fat chicks trying to ruin the fun parades and ultraviolence of the First Order. It's such a struggle to do anything in the #Resistance matriarchy .. you could call it "My Struggle."

    What makes it easy to switch allegiance, is that there is no one left on the Jedi side who is remotely interesting. The fighter pilot is supposed to be a 'rogue' - because other characters say that he is one - but he's no rogue, his character as written and acted is just a boring jock. There's nothing to him or any of the other Light Side guys/gals/fatties/trans-aliens.

    At least Darth Emo (Kylo Ren) is interesting. I liked Kylo's turn on Undercover Boss, that was cool too.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Mr. Qasim, with all respect, I agree completely with Radical Center's reply (and usually do). I don't think the film producers and all of Hollywood care at this point that you were put off by the racial agenda embedded in the film. See, they got your money already! You haven't even said that you may be inclined to skip the next one (of any sort of these movies), and I doubt you will.

    Not to be a Phil Donahue or the like, but wouldn't it be better to have your son learn from you while hiking, fishing, or shooting with him? It is a big part-time job just to unbrainwash kids from the BS they receive from even the good government schools, so spending time with him in any way is always good in that respect. You may see the agenda in these movies, but your son doesn't, so you spent how much money and let him get brainwashed for another 2 hours, on your own time?

    My Dad was rightfully telling us about the cntrl-left agenda he saw in the sit-com TV shows of the '70's and '80's, but I didn't get it then.

    Anyway, see Peak Stupidity on the ubiquity of TV (more here) and how the cntrl-left and Feral Government deem it very necessary that you and your kid stay in front of the screens.

    They are not gonna stop this stuff, Qasim, until most of us withdraw our monetary support, and even then, the Feral Gov't may support them. Then, we withdraw the tax money.
    , @Talha
    Salaam Bro,

    Glad you're back in it...

    Luke decides to go to the temple which holds the scrolls containing 1000 generations of inherited Jedi wisdom and burn it all down.
     
    Stu...

    Then Yoda comes, not to stop him, but to expedite the process!
     
    ...pid

    Wow - so I guess all that "Force" stuff that was the core glue that ran through all of the Star Wars mythos is just a bunch of nonsense. Sweet Lord - we have progressed beyond all that patriarchal religious mystical tradition!!! Burn it down!

    Now the heroine can have a lesbian threesome with a Wookie and an Ewok - 'cause the Force is a-WOKE-n!

    Sucks that they killed it, it was a fairly cool narrative - oh well, at least I have the memories from the 80's - good old Saturday mornings!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bLVOkS1Lp4

    Just don't waste your money on the next one.

    Wa salaam.
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  9. They’re driving whites to far right nationalism. And so what should white males do? Become unapologetic far right nationalists and rub it in their faces.

    And don’t worry, the waters fine.

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    Exactly right, my paisan.
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  10. @Andrei Martyanov
    Star Wars lobotomized sci-fi genre.

    Star Wars lobotomized sci-fi genre.

    Classic exchange.

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    Nice clip. Ted Koppel was one of the best at bringing antagonists on his program and using his wit, deft touch, and disarming manner to bring out the crux of their disagreement. John Simon was perhaps our most literate film critic (he is over 90 and still writes a blog), and his movie criticism was always worth reading. But he relished his role as provocateur and iconoclast, and sometimes overstated his case to enliven his criticism. I think he does that here when he insists that the first three Star Wars movies are merely entertainment for kids -- and not very edifying entertainment even for them. The best that can be said for Simon's view is that it would have had some validity if written about the prequels that came later. Siskel and Ebert clearly get the better of this debate in my view, but I think they would have been on stronger footing had they mentioned the ways in which Lucas drew on Greek mythology in the early Star Wars movies.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    I agree with Simon. I was 10 when the first Star Wars came out. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the Empire Strikes Back. After that I got older and lost interest.
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  11. @Qasim
    At the end of the movie, Finn (who is black) battles the head stormtrooper, after dealing the fatal blow and damaging its mask, you can see a small portion of white skin and one gleaming blue eye before it falls to its death in a fiery inferno. To me it seemed to be a pretty explicit image of an evil white being consumed in the fiery pit of hell as a just recompense for sin and oppression.

    So far, I haven't read anything else that makes this connection, was it just me?

    This article (justifiably) focuses on this film's anti-white animus. I also was shocked at the anti-religious themes. They made a point to keep referring to the Jedi as a religious order, and then Luke decides to go to the temple which holds the scrolls containing 1000 generations of inherited Jedi wisdom and burn it all down. Then Yoda comes, not to stop him, but to expedite the process!! It is the ultimate rejection of organized religion, holy books, traditionalism, patriarchy, and respecting the hard-won wisdom of one's elders and ancestors.

    The thing that really angers me is that my son just got into Star Wars a few years ago, and I really encouraged it, we have really bonded over watching the old films and the new cartoons. I was already troubled by the SJW themes in the cartoon but let it pass, it was nice to have my son think I am so cool for knowing who is who and filling in all the backstory details. To now see these damn films are trying to indoctrinate him in values that are in complete contradiction to what I believe and what drew me to Star Wars as a kid in the first place angers me to no end.

    To me it seemed to be a pretty explicit image of an evil white being consumed in the fiery pit of hell as a just recompense for sin and oppression.

    I saw the film last night and thought precisely the same thing. That imagery was not an accident.

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  12. @Qasim
    At the end of the movie, Finn (who is black) battles the head stormtrooper, after dealing the fatal blow and damaging its mask, you can see a small portion of white skin and one gleaming blue eye before it falls to its death in a fiery inferno. To me it seemed to be a pretty explicit image of an evil white being consumed in the fiery pit of hell as a just recompense for sin and oppression.

    So far, I haven't read anything else that makes this connection, was it just me?

    This article (justifiably) focuses on this film's anti-white animus. I also was shocked at the anti-religious themes. They made a point to keep referring to the Jedi as a religious order, and then Luke decides to go to the temple which holds the scrolls containing 1000 generations of inherited Jedi wisdom and burn it all down. Then Yoda comes, not to stop him, but to expedite the process!! It is the ultimate rejection of organized religion, holy books, traditionalism, patriarchy, and respecting the hard-won wisdom of one's elders and ancestors.

    The thing that really angers me is that my son just got into Star Wars a few years ago, and I really encouraged it, we have really bonded over watching the old films and the new cartoons. I was already troubled by the SJW themes in the cartoon but let it pass, it was nice to have my son think I am so cool for knowing who is who and filling in all the backstory details. To now see these damn films are trying to indoctrinate him in values that are in complete contradiction to what I believe and what drew me to Star Wars as a kid in the first place angers me to no end.

    Stop .. showing … ANY … Hollywood .. movies to your children … already. Damn, what does it take, people? Stop being naive. Stop trusting that maybe THIS movie or show isn’t so bad. Just stop.

    Toss the TV and eschew internet programming and stop financing the brainwashing, perversion and demoralization of your children. Please.

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    Stop .. showing … ANY … Hollywood .. movies to your children … already. Damn, what does it take, people? Stop being naive. Stop trusting that maybe THIS movie or show isn’t so bad. Just stop.
     
    I agree totally but you're wasting your time. They'll keep lining up to give their money to Disney so Disney can make more anti-civilisational movies.

    There's just no way to get through to people that all modern pop culture, including all TV and all Hollywood movies, is not just awful but actively evil.

    And they'll keep exposing their kids to this cultural poison.
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  13. @Paul DiBenedetto
    They're driving whites to far right nationalism. And so what should white males do? Become unapologetic far right nationalists and rub it in their faces.

    And don't worry, the waters fine.

    Exactly right, my paisan.

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    You have a Chinese wife and offspring. They are not white nationalists. These new Star Wars movies are just for them.
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  14. bartok says:
    @Qasim
    At the end of the movie, Finn (who is black) battles the head stormtrooper, after dealing the fatal blow and damaging its mask, you can see a small portion of white skin and one gleaming blue eye before it falls to its death in a fiery inferno. To me it seemed to be a pretty explicit image of an evil white being consumed in the fiery pit of hell as a just recompense for sin and oppression.

    So far, I haven't read anything else that makes this connection, was it just me?

    This article (justifiably) focuses on this film's anti-white animus. I also was shocked at the anti-religious themes. They made a point to keep referring to the Jedi as a religious order, and then Luke decides to go to the temple which holds the scrolls containing 1000 generations of inherited Jedi wisdom and burn it all down. Then Yoda comes, not to stop him, but to expedite the process!! It is the ultimate rejection of organized religion, holy books, traditionalism, patriarchy, and respecting the hard-won wisdom of one's elders and ancestors.

    The thing that really angers me is that my son just got into Star Wars a few years ago, and I really encouraged it, we have really bonded over watching the old films and the new cartoons. I was already troubled by the SJW themes in the cartoon but let it pass, it was nice to have my son think I am so cool for knowing who is who and filling in all the backstory details. To now see these damn films are trying to indoctrinate him in values that are in complete contradiction to what I believe and what drew me to Star Wars as a kid in the first place angers me to no end.

    To now see these damn films are trying to indoctrinate him in values that are in complete contradiction to what I believe and what drew me to Star Wars as a kid in the first place angers me to no end.

    The Sith / First Order are the good guys. Tell your son that, kids are very adaptable. The Jedi are old ladies and fat chicks trying to ruin the fun parades and ultraviolence of the First Order. It’s such a struggle to do anything in the #Resistance matriarchy .. you could call it “My Struggle.”

    What makes it easy to switch allegiance, is that there is no one left on the Jedi side who is remotely interesting. The fighter pilot is supposed to be a ‘rogue’ – because other characters say that he is one – but he’s no rogue, his character as written and acted is just a boring jock. There’s nothing to him or any of the other Light Side guys/gals/fatties/trans-aliens.

    At least Darth Emo (Kylo Ren) is interesting. I liked Kylo’s turn on Undercover Boss, that was cool too.

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  15. @Andrei Martyanov
    Star Wars lobotomized sci-fi genre.

    I did not know Star wars was sci fi. Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially Foundation series. Star Wars original book is unreadable. Total garbage. I tried to read it long time ago without much success.

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    Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially
     
    Too smart, too complex. They used to, however, produce wonderful TV Series such as The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits, even more recent The Fringe was world-class (well, J.J. Abrams, after all). The rest today is a cultural propaganda. Really sad. I am forced, however, to single out: Interstellar, Arrival (with Amy Adams) and, of course, WALL-E as stand alone masterpieces. Even Oblivion was not bad. But they were nowhere near in prominence (with the exception of WALL-E) with such vomit-inducing crap like the Hunger Games or Divergent or Star Wars--you name it. The whole premise of the Hunger Games is altogether--a mindless contrived lunacy. The excellent Snowpiercer is altogether a Korean-Czech movie.
    , @Ivan K.

    they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially Foundation series.
     
    They do try.
    http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/isaac-asimovs-foundation-trilogy-headed-to-the-big-screen/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/l8tbr/asimovs_foundation_moves_into_preproduction/

    Asimov in the film world: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001920/

    Basically, the time for filming The Foundation had passed by the early 1980s, when the people behind "I Claudius" (UK TV series) and "17 Moments of Spring" could still repeat similar feats. Afterward, the gloom of Thatcher and Gorbachev descended upon everything.

    And Anthony Hopkins is now probably too old to play Salvor Hardin.

    , @Escher
    The Foundation trilogy is one of the all time great science fiction sagas. Cannot put dreck like Star Wars in the same category.
    , @Hu Mi Yu

    Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially Foundation series.
     
    What about I Robot?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL6RRIOZyCM
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  16. @Talha
    It's for a lobotomized audience. I haven't watched a single one of the Transformers series, but I keep reading how much money the films keep making. Idiot film for idiot audiences.

    I take my kids to some of the new kids movies, but I have fallen asleep in every one of them save one.

    Give me good Japanese cinema (not dubbed) from the 50's - 70's any day (many films which form the archetypes for many Hollywood plots anyway).

    Peace.

    many films which form the archetypes for many Hollywood plots anyway

    Star Wars is a bastardization of Herbert’s Dune, from the so called “Force” being a pathetic pseudo-religious derivative of the Weirding Way, as an example, to the whole geopolitical concept. Granted, of course, that Frank Herbert’s son, grossly under-talented when compared to his father bastardized Dune sequels and turned them into…Star Wars. No surprise when one of his collaborators is the guy who writes this Star Wars tedious crap. Watching warfare in SW is altogether a very painful tactical and operational experience, the same goes to their combat technology, especially a ground one–I guess this technology was conceived by creators of F-35 and Littoral Combat Ships. Today’s Hollywood is a sewer, it is over for them, bar some once in a while gems accidentally produced under the radar of their cultural and social perversion.

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    Hey Andrei,

    Can't disagree here. The space combat in Star Wars was very engaging in the first films - it broke a lot of ground, introduced novel ideas - I still love the speeder chase scene through the forests of Endor. But yeah, now it's all worn away, it's the same stuff, over and over again just with slightly new
    or modified machines (so they can sell new lego sets).

    Today’s Hollywood is a sewer, it is over for them, bar some once in a while gems accidentally produced under the radar of their cultural and social perversion.
     
    Yeah - there are a few good ones that even make it in the popular scene - the last good one I watched was "No Country for Old Men" - but the amount of trash that is cranked out is amazing - more amazing is how many people are willing to pay their own money to see it!

    Frank Herbert’s son, grossly under-talented when compared to his father bastardized Dune sequels and turned them into…Star Wars
     
    I know, I read them (being a huge Dune fan) - well, the only plus side was that I checked those books out from the library so never spent a cent.

    Peace.
    , @El Dato

    the so called “Force” being a pathetic pseudo-religious derivative of the Weirding Way
     
    WTF man, the "Weirding Way" is something David Lynch invented to make his hilariously terribad movie plot sellable and frackable into 120 minutes.

    It's not even in the original text.

    Any religion in the original text is a construction for social control only, and the 14-year old extremely well-trained hero (hell, I would like to have that kind of training at 14) afflicted with prescience just slots into it like a virus slots into a cell surface protein. And then he has to carry the burden of Galactic Jihad (which we never really see and which apparently was necessary to keep the genes of humanity shuffling - but it would eternally suck to be obliterated by a fleet of ISIS lookalikes, even if they carry an imperial banner)

    The background is of course, exploitation of sandpeople for oil and stuff by an aristrocratic family looking out for No. 1 that is also extremely embedded in a baroque imperial structure. And ancient orders looking out for their brains and genes.

    Anyway, it's absolutely not like Star Wars.

    (Incidentally "Dune" and Cordwainer Smith's "Norstrilia", part of the excellent "Instrumentality of Mankind" batch, come out at about the same, with rather similar plot elements)

    , @Seamus Padraig
    Dune may have influenced SW a bit, but the main influence was an old Japanese movie called The Hidden Fortress: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hidden_Fortress#Influence
    , @Gene Su
    I read some of the Dune novels. They were OK.

    I think what George Lucas should have done was get one of his Expanded Universe writers to write the script for the prequels, particularly Revenge of the Script. It's obvious that the man can't write good dialogue for his life.
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  17. @Sergey Krieger
    I did not know Star wars was sci fi. Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially Foundation series. Star Wars original book is unreadable. Total garbage. I tried to read it long time ago without much success.

    Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially

    Too smart, too complex. They used to, however, produce wonderful TV Series such as The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits, even more recent The Fringe was world-class (well, J.J. Abrams, after all). The rest today is a cultural propaganda. Really sad. I am forced, however, to single out: Interstellar, Arrival (with Amy Adams) and, of course, WALL-E as stand alone masterpieces. Even Oblivion was not bad. But they were nowhere near in prominence (with the exception of WALL-E) with such vomit-inducing crap like the Hunger Games or Divergent or Star Wars–you name it. The whole premise of the Hunger Games is altogether–a mindless contrived lunacy. The excellent Snowpiercer is altogether a Korean-Czech movie.

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    Too smart, too complex. They used to, however, produce wonderful TV Series such as The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits
     
    The Outer Limits was superb. The Twilight Zone on the other hand was non-stop relentless (and incredibly clumsy) liberal propaganda.
    , @Gene Su
    Too much literature and drama in the twentieth century has been lobotomized. It even started earlier with "A Wrinkle in Time" (now being made into another Disney movie). Plot centered around a sister using her "love" to reach out to her brainwashed brother. Maybe that's where JK Rowling got the plot for "Harry Potter" from.

    But I think I know the real reason why "dumbed down" literature and stories like "Star Wars", "A Wrinkle in Time", and "Star Trek" (which relies on too much technobabble to solve every problem miraculously painlessly) appear to so many modern humans (and particularly modern Westerners). It is not just our decreasing standards of education. We live in a very stressed out world. Our lives are constantly on the go. We have no chance to relax. It is also the reason why mindless entertainment like football and "pro rassling" appeals to us. Linh Dinh wrote an excellent essay on this a year ago. This applies also to the poorest among us (or maybe especially the poorest among us?).
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  18. Talha says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    many films which form the archetypes for many Hollywood plots anyway
     
    Star Wars is a bastardization of Herbert's Dune, from the so called "Force" being a pathetic pseudo-religious derivative of the Weirding Way, as an example, to the whole geopolitical concept. Granted, of course, that Frank Herbert's son, grossly under-talented when compared to his father bastardized Dune sequels and turned them into...Star Wars. No surprise when one of his collaborators is the guy who writes this Star Wars tedious crap. Watching warfare in SW is altogether a very painful tactical and operational experience, the same goes to their combat technology, especially a ground one--I guess this technology was conceived by creators of F-35 and Littoral Combat Ships. Today's Hollywood is a sewer, it is over for them, bar some once in a while gems accidentally produced under the radar of their cultural and social perversion.

    Hey Andrei,

    Can’t disagree here. The space combat in Star Wars was very engaging in the first films – it broke a lot of ground, introduced novel ideas – I still love the speeder chase scene through the forests of Endor. But yeah, now it’s all worn away, it’s the same stuff, over and over again just with slightly new
    or modified machines (so they can sell new lego sets).

    Today’s Hollywood is a sewer, it is over for them, bar some once in a while gems accidentally produced under the radar of their cultural and social perversion.

    Yeah – there are a few good ones that even make it in the popular scene – the last good one I watched was “No Country for Old Men” – but the amount of trash that is cranked out is amazing – more amazing is how many people are willing to pay their own money to see it!

    Frank Herbert’s son, grossly under-talented when compared to his father bastardized Dune sequels and turned them into…Star Wars

    I know, I read them (being a huge Dune fan) – well, the only plus side was that I checked those books out from the library so never spent a cent.

    Peace.

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    The space combat in Star Wars was very engaging in the first films – it broke a lot of ground, introduced novel ideas
     
    The ride in Disney parks is certainly awesome.

    it’s the same stuff, over and over again just with slightly new or modified machines (so they can sell new lego sets).
     
    Exactly. But I came to love Family Guy version of SW more:)) I mean it. They should have left sequels to Seth Macfarlane--I am 100% positive he would have done a fine and really enjoyable job in embedding SW sequels into public consciousness.

    “No Country for Old Men”
     
    Good movie.

    I know, I read them (being a huge Dune fan) – well, the only plus side was that I checked those books out from the library so never spent a cent.
     
    I threw away 20+ bucks on Butlerian Jihad, barely made it through first 50-60 pages and then threw the book away--what a lo0ad of contrived BS. Once the word "democracy" appears in those sequels--it is over for me. But in general it is all about:

    https://youtu.be/oNZove4OTtI

    Man, let the schwartz be with me.
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  19. @Talha
    Hey Andrei,

    Can't disagree here. The space combat in Star Wars was very engaging in the first films - it broke a lot of ground, introduced novel ideas - I still love the speeder chase scene through the forests of Endor. But yeah, now it's all worn away, it's the same stuff, over and over again just with slightly new
    or modified machines (so they can sell new lego sets).

    Today’s Hollywood is a sewer, it is over for them, bar some once in a while gems accidentally produced under the radar of their cultural and social perversion.
     
    Yeah - there are a few good ones that even make it in the popular scene - the last good one I watched was "No Country for Old Men" - but the amount of trash that is cranked out is amazing - more amazing is how many people are willing to pay their own money to see it!

    Frank Herbert’s son, grossly under-talented when compared to his father bastardized Dune sequels and turned them into…Star Wars
     
    I know, I read them (being a huge Dune fan) - well, the only plus side was that I checked those books out from the library so never spent a cent.

    Peace.

    The space combat in Star Wars was very engaging in the first films – it broke a lot of ground, introduced novel ideas

    The ride in Disney parks is certainly awesome.

    it’s the same stuff, over and over again just with slightly new or modified machines (so they can sell new lego sets).

    Exactly. But I came to love Family Guy version of SW more:)) I mean it. They should have left sequels to Seth Macfarlane–I am 100% positive he would have done a fine and really enjoyable job in embedding SW sequels into public consciousness.

    “No Country for Old Men”

    Good movie.

    I know, I read them (being a huge Dune fan) – well, the only plus side was that I checked those books out from the library so never spent a cent.

    I threw away 20+ bucks on Butlerian Jihad, barely made it through first 50-60 pages and then threw the book away–what a lo0ad of contrived BS. Once the word “democracy” appears in those sequels–it is over for me. But in general it is all about:

    Man, let the schwartz be with me.

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  20. El Dato says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    many films which form the archetypes for many Hollywood plots anyway
     
    Star Wars is a bastardization of Herbert's Dune, from the so called "Force" being a pathetic pseudo-religious derivative of the Weirding Way, as an example, to the whole geopolitical concept. Granted, of course, that Frank Herbert's son, grossly under-talented when compared to his father bastardized Dune sequels and turned them into...Star Wars. No surprise when one of his collaborators is the guy who writes this Star Wars tedious crap. Watching warfare in SW is altogether a very painful tactical and operational experience, the same goes to their combat technology, especially a ground one--I guess this technology was conceived by creators of F-35 and Littoral Combat Ships. Today's Hollywood is a sewer, it is over for them, bar some once in a while gems accidentally produced under the radar of their cultural and social perversion.

    the so called “Force” being a pathetic pseudo-religious derivative of the Weirding Way

    WTF man, the “Weirding Way” is something David Lynch invented to make his hilariously terribad movie plot sellable and frackable into 120 minutes.

    It’s not even in the original text.

    Any religion in the original text is a construction for social control only, and the 14-year old extremely well-trained hero (hell, I would like to have that kind of training at 14) afflicted with prescience just slots into it like a virus slots into a cell surface protein. And then he has to carry the burden of Galactic Jihad (which we never really see and which apparently was necessary to keep the genes of humanity shuffling – but it would eternally suck to be obliterated by a fleet of ISIS lookalikes, even if they carry an imperial banner)

    The background is of course, exploitation of sandpeople for oil and stuff by an aristrocratic family looking out for No. 1 that is also extremely embedded in a baroque imperial structure. And ancient orders looking out for their brains and genes.

    Anyway, it’s absolutely not like Star Wars.

    (Incidentally “Dune” and Cordwainer Smith’s “Norstrilia”, part of the excellent “Instrumentality of Mankind” batch, come out at about the same, with rather similar plot elements)

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    WTF man
     
    You are right, I long ago conflated the two, since Lynch's vision is outstanding (I have both short and long versions). Sadly, my more detailed and elaborate response to you didn't post.
    , @Andrei Martyanov

    WTF man, the “Weirding Way” is something David Lynch invented to make his hilariously terribad movie plot sellable and frackable into 120 minutes.
     
    Now that I am at work and have a free time (wink, wink-oh, just the end of the year) I can elaborate a bit.

    1. Dune as a book is rather dry and very limited in physical description of Dune universe, concentrating mostly on politics and geopolitics. Even the Dune Encyclopedia published from Frank Herbert's blessing (and now stopped from reprint by his talent-less son--SOB) is not entirely up to the task, despite expanding on Dune's universe in some detail in some aspects. F.e. Language structure or even Fremen music tradition are rather overbearing parts, among some.

    2. Lynch gave Dune a visual which Frank Herbert himself (he was on the set very often observing in admiration) admitted was perfect. Obviously the Weirding Way was introduced by Lynch since he stated that it would be stupid to shoot Fremen "kung-fu fighting in the sand"(c). But Lynch's visual solutions are absolutely genius in its grimness and paleofuture feel and as such they long ago complemented and greatly at that the book.

    3. It is sort of like Bondarchuk's genius adaptation of Tolstoy's War and Peace, when book characters come alive and you can not see them and their world otherwise. Same here with Lynch both 2 hr. 20 and his 3+ hours (disowned by him) versions of the Dune. I wish they released all 4+ hours of footage, even without editing.

    4. Star Wars draws heavily on Dune. Here is the entry from Wiki.

    Star Wars shares many similarities with Frank Herbert's Dune,[20] including the desert planet setting with a moisture-based economy, spice smugglers, obese interstellar antagonists, and a mystical mind control-using sect with great influence over galactic politics — Herbert himself once enumerated 37 similarities.[21] The influence was even more distinct in early Star Wars versions, with Princess Leia guarding a shipment of "aura spice" instead of the Death Star plans. The script for Jodorowsky's Dune was circulating in Hollywood at the time of Lucas' early work on Star Wars.[22][23][24]
     
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  21. @El Dato

    the so called “Force” being a pathetic pseudo-religious derivative of the Weirding Way
     
    WTF man, the "Weirding Way" is something David Lynch invented to make his hilariously terribad movie plot sellable and frackable into 120 minutes.

    It's not even in the original text.

    Any religion in the original text is a construction for social control only, and the 14-year old extremely well-trained hero (hell, I would like to have that kind of training at 14) afflicted with prescience just slots into it like a virus slots into a cell surface protein. And then he has to carry the burden of Galactic Jihad (which we never really see and which apparently was necessary to keep the genes of humanity shuffling - but it would eternally suck to be obliterated by a fleet of ISIS lookalikes, even if they carry an imperial banner)

    The background is of course, exploitation of sandpeople for oil and stuff by an aristrocratic family looking out for No. 1 that is also extremely embedded in a baroque imperial structure. And ancient orders looking out for their brains and genes.

    Anyway, it's absolutely not like Star Wars.

    (Incidentally "Dune" and Cordwainer Smith's "Norstrilia", part of the excellent "Instrumentality of Mankind" batch, come out at about the same, with rather similar plot elements)

    WTF man

    You are right, I long ago conflated the two, since Lynch’s vision is outstanding (I have both short and long versions). Sadly, my more detailed and elaborate response to you didn’t post.

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    Don't worry about it.

    Also I really can't agree that Lynch's vision is outstanding. It has is Lynchian charms but it has not that much to do with "Dune" and additionally Lunch murders the whole structure in the final scene as if with a final, bad joke. Yes, making it magically rain on Arrakis will KILL THE SPICE and thus Paul's empire, dead.
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  22. @Priss Factor
    Star Wars lobotomized sci-fi genre.

    Classic exchange.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky9-eIlHzAE

    Nice clip. Ted Koppel was one of the best at bringing antagonists on his program and using his wit, deft touch, and disarming manner to bring out the crux of their disagreement. John Simon was perhaps our most literate film critic (he is over 90 and still writes a blog), and his movie criticism was always worth reading. But he relished his role as provocateur and iconoclast, and sometimes overstated his case to enliven his criticism. I think he does that here when he insists that the first three Star Wars movies are merely entertainment for kids — and not very edifying entertainment even for them. The best that can be said for Simon’s view is that it would have had some validity if written about the prequels that came later. Siskel and Ebert clearly get the better of this debate in my view, but I think they would have been on stronger footing had they mentioned the ways in which Lucas drew on Greek mythology in the early Star Wars movies.

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    Simon was actually okay with the first STAR WARS. He also admired much of THX 1138 and loved AMERICAN GRAFFITI. Even though he didn't much care for the first STAR WARS, he thought it was something new and had some nice things. He turned against SW big time with the second movie because he detected Lucas' ambition of turning entertainment into a kind of a cult, a new religion. It was this pretension that put him off. As for the third one, even many STAR WARS fans hated it. Ebert initially gave it 4 stars but then later changed it to 3. Last one has good special effects but is a lousy lousy movie.

    Personally, I disagree with both sides. I do believe Lucas came up with a great vision but betrayed it with greed or stupidity. It could have been galactic EXCALIBUR but ended up as little more than expensive FLASH GORDON. In contrast, Simon bashes not only the execution but the concept. I think the concept was fabulous.

    As for Ebert and Siskel, they are just being stupid. RETURN OF THE JEDI is a very dumb movie and has nothing going for it but special effects. Because Simon has to do with both of them and because Ebert and Siskel are more high energy, it seems like the latter got the better of the exchange. But Simon made the better argument, and in retrospect, when so many big budget movies are dumb as hell, it's a message we need more than ever.
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  23. @Qasim
    At the end of the movie, Finn (who is black) battles the head stormtrooper, after dealing the fatal blow and damaging its mask, you can see a small portion of white skin and one gleaming blue eye before it falls to its death in a fiery inferno. To me it seemed to be a pretty explicit image of an evil white being consumed in the fiery pit of hell as a just recompense for sin and oppression.

    So far, I haven't read anything else that makes this connection, was it just me?

    This article (justifiably) focuses on this film's anti-white animus. I also was shocked at the anti-religious themes. They made a point to keep referring to the Jedi as a religious order, and then Luke decides to go to the temple which holds the scrolls containing 1000 generations of inherited Jedi wisdom and burn it all down. Then Yoda comes, not to stop him, but to expedite the process!! It is the ultimate rejection of organized religion, holy books, traditionalism, patriarchy, and respecting the hard-won wisdom of one's elders and ancestors.

    The thing that really angers me is that my son just got into Star Wars a few years ago, and I really encouraged it, we have really bonded over watching the old films and the new cartoons. I was already troubled by the SJW themes in the cartoon but let it pass, it was nice to have my son think I am so cool for knowing who is who and filling in all the backstory details. To now see these damn films are trying to indoctrinate him in values that are in complete contradiction to what I believe and what drew me to Star Wars as a kid in the first place angers me to no end.

    Mr. Qasim, with all respect, I agree completely with Radical Center’s reply (and usually do). I don’t think the film producers and all of Hollywood care at this point that you were put off by the racial agenda embedded in the film. See, they got your money already! You haven’t even said that you may be inclined to skip the next one (of any sort of these movies), and I doubt you will.

    Not to be a Phil Donahue or the like, but wouldn’t it be better to have your son learn from you while hiking, fishing, or shooting with him? It is a big part-time job just to unbrainwash kids from the BS they receive from even the good government schools, so spending time with him in any way is always good in that respect. You may see the agenda in these movies, but your son doesn’t, so you spent how much money and let him get brainwashed for another 2 hours, on your own time?

    My Dad was rightfully telling us about the cntrl-left agenda he saw in the sit-com TV shows of the ’70′s and ’80′s, but I didn’t get it then.

    Anyway, see Peak Stupidity on the ubiquity of TV (more here) and how the cntrl-left and Feral Government deem it very necessary that you and your kid stay in front of the screens.

    They are not gonna stop this stuff, Qasim, until most of us withdraw our monetary support, and even then, the Feral Gov’t may support them. Then, we withdraw the tax money.

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  24. @Presocratic
    Nice clip. Ted Koppel was one of the best at bringing antagonists on his program and using his wit, deft touch, and disarming manner to bring out the crux of their disagreement. John Simon was perhaps our most literate film critic (he is over 90 and still writes a blog), and his movie criticism was always worth reading. But he relished his role as provocateur and iconoclast, and sometimes overstated his case to enliven his criticism. I think he does that here when he insists that the first three Star Wars movies are merely entertainment for kids -- and not very edifying entertainment even for them. The best that can be said for Simon's view is that it would have had some validity if written about the prequels that came later. Siskel and Ebert clearly get the better of this debate in my view, but I think they would have been on stronger footing had they mentioned the ways in which Lucas drew on Greek mythology in the early Star Wars movies.

    Simon was actually okay with the first STAR WARS. He also admired much of THX 1138 and loved AMERICAN GRAFFITI. Even though he didn’t much care for the first STAR WARS, he thought it was something new and had some nice things. He turned against SW big time with the second movie because he detected Lucas’ ambition of turning entertainment into a kind of a cult, a new religion. It was this pretension that put him off. As for the third one, even many STAR WARS fans hated it. Ebert initially gave it 4 stars but then later changed it to 3. Last one has good special effects but is a lousy lousy movie.

    Personally, I disagree with both sides. I do believe Lucas came up with a great vision but betrayed it with greed or stupidity. It could have been galactic EXCALIBUR but ended up as little more than expensive FLASH GORDON. In contrast, Simon bashes not only the execution but the concept. I think the concept was fabulous.

    As for Ebert and Siskel, they are just being stupid. RETURN OF THE JEDI is a very dumb movie and has nothing going for it but special effects. Because Simon has to do with both of them and because Ebert and Siskel are more high energy, it seems like the latter got the better of the exchange. But Simon made the better argument, and in retrospect, when so many big budget movies are dumb as hell, it’s a message we need more than ever.

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  25. I don’t care much for the new Star Wars movies due to the poverty of ideas and blatant rehashing they represent, but I can’t see them as anti-white movies. The most prominent, competent and powerful characters are white: Luke, Leia, Rey, Kylo, Hux, Poe Dameron (looks like he has mostly Euro ancestry) and Laura Dern’s character. The two major non-white main characters Finn and Rose go on a pointless wild goose chase and avoiding spoilers, screw thing up majorly.

    Disney’s second highest grosser Beauty and the Beast had minimal non-white participation and the Marvel movies overwhelmingly have white males as the superheroic leads.

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    The most prominent, competent and powerful characters are white: Luke, Leia, Rey, Kylo, Hux, Poe Dameron (looks like he has mostly Euro ancestry) and Laura Dern’s character.

    But they are white traitors who side with Diversity against the Whitey Empire.

    Suppose I make a movie where most of the main heroes are Hindus. But suppose these Hindu characters side with Chinese against India. So, is it a pro-Hindu story?
    Even if main characters are mostly Hindu, the fact is they are working with foreigners against their own kind.

    Whites can be anti-white, and the whites in STAR WARS are anti-white heroes.

    The message is THE ONLY GOOD WHITEY IS ANTI-WHITE.
    , @Avis McAdoo
    I do absolutely believe that the Real Top Hebrews at the mouse company (and the shlubs who write for them) deliberately tried to make this an anti white male movie, but in order for it to work you still have to know how to write a freaking story. Instead we got a multicult fairy tale where the rainbow coalition screws up everything they touch; the "Resistance" are actually the military of the government that's been in power for 40 years and are getting their asses kicked by the lily white insurgents of the FO; and the only reason any of them survive at all is because an old white man comes out of retirement to save them.

    Basically, it's an SJW epic fail.
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  26. Ivan K. says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    I did not know Star wars was sci fi. Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially Foundation series. Star Wars original book is unreadable. Total garbage. I tried to read it long time ago without much success.

    they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially Foundation series.

    They do try.

    http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/isaac-asimovs-foundation-trilogy-headed-to-the-big-screen/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/l8tbr/asimovs_foundation_moves_into_preproduction/

    Asimov in the film world: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001920/

    Basically, the time for filming The Foundation had passed by the early 1980s, when the people behind “I Claudius” (UK TV series) and “17 Moments of Spring” could still repeat similar feats. Afterward, the gloom of Thatcher and Gorbachev descended upon everything.

    And Anthony Hopkins is now probably too old to play Salvor Hardin.

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  27. @El Dato

    the so called “Force” being a pathetic pseudo-religious derivative of the Weirding Way
     
    WTF man, the "Weirding Way" is something David Lynch invented to make his hilariously terribad movie plot sellable and frackable into 120 minutes.

    It's not even in the original text.

    Any religion in the original text is a construction for social control only, and the 14-year old extremely well-trained hero (hell, I would like to have that kind of training at 14) afflicted with prescience just slots into it like a virus slots into a cell surface protein. And then he has to carry the burden of Galactic Jihad (which we never really see and which apparently was necessary to keep the genes of humanity shuffling - but it would eternally suck to be obliterated by a fleet of ISIS lookalikes, even if they carry an imperial banner)

    The background is of course, exploitation of sandpeople for oil and stuff by an aristrocratic family looking out for No. 1 that is also extremely embedded in a baroque imperial structure. And ancient orders looking out for their brains and genes.

    Anyway, it's absolutely not like Star Wars.

    (Incidentally "Dune" and Cordwainer Smith's "Norstrilia", part of the excellent "Instrumentality of Mankind" batch, come out at about the same, with rather similar plot elements)

    WTF man, the “Weirding Way” is something David Lynch invented to make his hilariously terribad movie plot sellable and frackable into 120 minutes.

    Now that I am at work and have a free time (wink, wink-oh, just the end of the year) I can elaborate a bit.

    1. Dune as a book is rather dry and very limited in physical description of Dune universe, concentrating mostly on politics and geopolitics. Even the Dune Encyclopedia published from Frank Herbert’s blessing (and now stopped from reprint by his talent-less son–SOB) is not entirely up to the task, despite expanding on Dune’s universe in some detail in some aspects. F.e. Language structure or even Fremen music tradition are rather overbearing parts, among some.

    2. Lynch gave Dune a visual which Frank Herbert himself (he was on the set very often observing in admiration) admitted was perfect. Obviously the Weirding Way was introduced by Lynch since he stated that it would be stupid to shoot Fremen “kung-fu fighting in the sand”(c). But Lynch’s visual solutions are absolutely genius in its grimness and paleofuture feel and as such they long ago complemented and greatly at that the book.

    3. It is sort of like Bondarchuk’s genius adaptation of Tolstoy’s War and Peace, when book characters come alive and you can not see them and their world otherwise. Same here with Lynch both 2 hr. 20 and his 3+ hours (disowned by him) versions of the Dune. I wish they released all 4+ hours of footage, even without editing.

    4. Star Wars draws heavily on Dune. Here is the entry from Wiki.

    Star Wars shares many similarities with Frank Herbert’s Dune,[20] including the desert planet setting with a moisture-based economy, spice smugglers, obese interstellar antagonists, and a mystical mind control-using sect with great influence over galactic politics — Herbert himself once enumerated 37 similarities.[21] The influence was even more distinct in early Star Wars versions, with Princess Leia guarding a shipment of “aura spice” instead of the Death Star plans. The script for Jodorowsky’s Dune was circulating in Hollywood at the time of Lucas’ early work on Star Wars.[22][23][24]

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    Well, the desert visuals were kinda great and really stay with out for a long time but I just don't understand Lynch completely and lubelessly messing up the book. Already in the first scene we see the Emperor as under the heel of the Guild, a reveal that is completely pointless as nobody fights the Guild in the whole movie. In the book the Emperor is clearly in charge - balancing forces, but in charge. There is weird mumbo-jumbo being injected sideways, as if Twin Peaks had come through an interdimensional portal. Meatloaf is too horrific, Sting and Kyle are too old (both should be 16yo brats), Bene Gesserit witches should actually be good-looking (I'm talking long-haired anime girl good looking with the brains to go with it), the hairless cat idea was too bizarre, thumpers are too big, desert suits should be anything else but black and should have hoods, spice eyes should be completely blue, no white allowed, and in the end it rains (whut??) but Alia is cool.

    Star Wars is all about fast-paced hyperspace-enhanced swasbuckling whereas Dune is all about politics and control and religion and economic forces in temporary equilibrium. Tatooine is just some completely unimportant boondocks. Dune is the most important place of the empire, doubly so as it also reveals itself as the second super-soldier breeding ground. There is a claustrophobia in the fact only Guild heighliners can do interstellar travel. Even imperial and private military depend on them (please pay the reception and no going to Alderaan on a whim). The Guild even has the monopoly on weather sats around Dune which is why poor Vlad has no idea what's brewing the deep south (always a weird idea, why not launch a sat from Arrakeen, self-financed ... well, many of ideas do not make full sense. But it's all charming.

    I wonder what would have become of Jodorowsky's Dune, never seen the documentary. His 80s "Incal", drawn by Moebius is fun (don't bother getting the electronically "reedited/recolored" version, it's utter crap: http://funnybookbabylon.com/2008/10/20/re-coloring-moebius/ ) but after that he worked without Moebius and teamed up with Gimenez and other illustrators. He went "Freudian" to the point of being entirely unenjoyable: Rape, abasement, torture, slavery, incest, genocide, more rape, ultrakill, more abasement, atrocities of all kind. A power-duo with Lynch, maybe?
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  28. Zumbuddi says:
    @Priss Factor
    In a way, the New STAR WARS Makes Perfect Sense Given the Change in Ownership from George Lucas to Disney. Force reflects real power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtV2KTeR0o

    Richard Spencer in the video above complains about how the New STAR WARS doesn't respect or conform to the original vision created by George Lucas. And many others have lodged similar complaints. Across the political spectrum, many are not pleased with the new series and especially the new movie because it deviates from the original vision that they grew up with. Many adult audience members spent their formative yrs watching the original series, the first three released from 1977 to 1983 and the second trilogy from 1999 to 2005. So, they have a fixed idea of what STAR WARS universe and the Force are about. Therefore, when confronted with the revisions and narrative-thematic purging of the New Series, they are bewildered and even exasperated by Disney's lack of 'respect' for Lucas' original vision. (But do they ever ask why Lucas still deserves respect when he sold his baby to Disney for billions of shekels?)

    Now, the complainers have a point. The new series may well indeed violate the core principles of Lucas' original vision. It may go against the spirit of the original incarnation under Lucas' command. But they are overlooking certain key facts about the Way of Power in culture. What goes for Power goes for the Force. The Force in STAR WARS is whatever those with the possession of copyright say it is. The Force was what it was as long as Lucas had control over it. But with Jews at Disney now owning STAR WARS, the Force is whatever THEY make it out to be. It's as Carl Schmitt said of the nature of law and power. No law exists outside the reality of power. Basic laws are vaguely worded, and it is the Power that decides the meaning and force of those words. So, when Jews gained control of US culture and jurisprudence, the Constitution came to mean Open Borders, Diversity, Anti-White Dogma(to enforce white submissivism necessary to serve Jewish dominance), and 'Gay Marriage'. Americanism and Constitutionalism were always shaped and determined by the Power. After all, what is Free Speech? Jews once used to say Free Speech means all speech, from far right to far left, should be free.Back then, Jews feared censorship of Jewish radicalism and pornography(big profits for Jews) by traditional Christian power. But once Jews gained supreme power in the US, they came to fear Free Speech as criticism of Jewish Power. Therefore, Jews redefined Free Speech as excluding 'hate speech'. Since Jewish Power controls the meaning of 'hate speech', Zionist speech(that demeans Palestinians) is not 'hate speech', but BDS speech that calls for justice for Palestinians must be criminalized as 'hate'. The Power decides what is 'hate', and that means Jewish elites with supreme power in the US get to denounce and suppress certain speech as 'hateful'.

    What goes for Reality goes for Fantasy. The rules of fantasy will always be controlled by those with power over the fantasy. So, it doesn't matter what Lucas did with the original STAR WARS. It doesn't matter how the Force was manifested in the first six movies. The fact is the power of the Force has gone over to Jews at Disney, and that means Jews will alter the Force to suit their agendas and biases. It's simple as that. So, when Richard Spencer and others talk of STAR WARS as a universe existing independent of copyright ownership and moneyed control, they are being naive. They are presuming that there really is a Core Canonical Principles of the STAR WARS and the dynamics of the Force. No, such was all make-believe and can easily be altered based on whomever is now in control.
    Spencer has emphasized over and over how it's foolish to believe in Constitutionalism as a principle independent of power. He has castigated the so-called True Conservatives who claim to stand for abstract American Values of Liberty and Individualism. His point is that American Constitutionalism will always be determined by those with real power. The Constitution can be molded to mean just about anything. At one time, it even justified slavery and the ethnic cleansing of American Indians. And the 'internment' of the Japanese. And censorship of obscene material offensive to Christians. The Constitution allowed all such censorship and restrictions in the past because the White Christian Majority could will the Constitution to support and defend certain values and interests. But once Jews gained control of the Constitution, the US came to be all about ISRAEL FIRST, favoring Zionists over all other peoples(esp the Palestinians), Open Borders Immigration to turn whites into a minority, and etc. The Constitution now serves the interests of Zionist-Supremacism. And since Jews have chosen Homomania as the proxy agent of Jewish Globlaism, the Worship of Homos and Trannies has become the new christianity or Queertianity. The Christian Church is like the Constitution. In the end, it will be what those in power say it's about. The Power decides and molds & twists the presumed core principles to its will.

    If Spencer is so perceptive about the relation between Power and Laws, why is he so naive and earnest in his assessment of the new STAR WARS movie? He seems baffled as to why the new series violated and betrayed what STAR WARS is really supposed to be about. But his idea of 'real Star Wars' only applies to the franchise that was owned by Lucas. As long as Lucas had power over his baby, he could do as he pleased. But when he sold the Force to Disney, Jews had the power over the Force, and they could bend it to serve their own biases and agendas. It's like if you give your kid up for adoption, the adoptive parents can do whatever they want to with it. Jews can adopt a non-Jew and raise it as a Jew. And of course, the new STAR WARS reflects this reality. What are the agendas of Jewish globalists? It is white feminism. Jews use feminism or man-hate to drive a wedge between white men and white women. By thus setting white women against white men, white race is weakened, and it is easier for Jews to maintain control over white goyim. Jews also push race-mixing to destroy racial and ethnic identities. A people with confused identities are less likely to unite and rise up against the ruling elites. It is also a way to demoralize white males and destroy their pride. By especially promoting interracism between black males and white females, Jews send a message that black males are superior studs while white males are either dorky cucks or wussy homos. And the new STAR WARS is geared to turning its white heroine into a race-mixer. We see this all around in TV commercials, TV shows, and movies. Jews want to make the next James Bond black. Jews want to put the black male on the pedestal as the top alpha male who deserves to take white women. As for white males, they are either old farts who should die or dorky cucks who should delight in their own defeat and humiliation.

    Jews also push for massive 'immigration' to increase Diversity. Why do Jews do this? Jewish elites fear a homogeneous population that might unite against Jewish power. So, Jews seek to increase Diversity and set various goyim against one another. That way, the goyim won't be able to unite as one people against Jewish elites. And of course, the new STAR WARS is all about Diversity, a weapon of Jews against native populations of any nation. Meanwhile, virtually all the villains are white, especially white males.

    In the end, the Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews? According to the original spirit of the Torah, God cannot be manifest in human form. And God's Covenant is with Jews, not with all of humanity. But Christianity had Jesus as Son of God, a human figure walking among mankind. And Christianity said the new covenant is with all of humanity. In the end, it didn't matter how much Jews protested. The fact is when the idea of God passed over to Christian and later Muslim gentiles, they changed or twisted the principles to serve their own interests and agendas. Jewish concept of God was limited only to spaces in which Jews had the power. In gentile spaces where Christians and Muslims had control over the idea of God, His meaning and design could be altered, even drastically, to serve interests inimical to Jews.

    So, what happened to STAR WARS isn't much different from what happened to the concept of the Jewish God once its ownership passed over to gentiles. Via Christian conversion, many gentiles became believers in God, and this belief gave them ownership of the meaning of God. And in their self-interest, they altered and violated many principles so dear to Jews who had once held sole ownership of their God.
    Likewise, STAR WARS owned by Lucas and beloved by so many people had canonical value only as long as its ownership remained with those who remained loyal to the original vision. But once the ownership changed hands, the New Masters were bound to make the franchise serve their own biases and interests.
    This happens with every newspaper or magazine. It doesn't matter what its original masthead declaration of principles was. The new owners will bend the purpose to their own will. This is why The New Republic changed drastically when it was taken over by Neocons under the tutelage of Martin Peretz. And then, once ownership changed once more, it turned into just some homo-globalist hipster rag. Or consider Huffington Post. Despite its name, Ariana Huffington has nothing to do with the new incarnation, and it's changed considerably from what it had been under her control.

    If Alt Right has gained ownership of STARS WARS franchise, they would have made it serve its vision and interests. Richard Spencer as producer-director of STAR WARS would have made the Empire the good guys, and of course, many fans would have screamed Bloody Murder in protest. It's like Stanley Kubrick did his OWN thing with THE SHINING to the never-ending ire of Stephen King who felt Kubrick betrayed his core concept and meaning. But as King had sold movie rights to Kubrick, he was helpless to stop it.
    Indeed, if there is such a thing as Alt Right STAR WARS fanfiction, the narratives likely serve the biases of White Nationalism. But since Jews of Disney own STAR WARS, the franchise is now used to further the Jewish Supremacist agenda of globalism.

    Same thing happened with dialectical communism. The original theory by Karl Marx prophesied that conditions would worsen to the point where the working class would rise up to overthrow the bourgeoisie. Since the Proletariat was essential to this revolution, only an industrialized nation with a majority prole population could undergo the great tranformation. But when Lenin and Stalin took control of the theory, it was altered so that even a backward semi-industrial nation like Russia could have a communist revolution. Spontaneous uprising by the working class was no longer necessary. A radical vanguard with the support of secret police apparatus could pull it off. Later, Mao altered the meaning of Marxism even more by arguing that a communist revolution could happen with a peasant army. So, despite the original canonical meaning of Marxist theory, in the real world of actual practice, Marxism could be molded to be anything by the powers-that-be. If Maoism said Marxism could prevail in an agricultural society, that was the official lore of the land.And later, when reformers took control of China, communism could mean market economics. So, even as the Chinese Communist Party maintained the symbolism of Mao, the Red Flag, and revolutionary pageantry, the New Way was about buying-and-selling, trade with capitalist powers, and getting rich. Indeed, consider how Che Guevara became linked with capitalist pop culture and hedonism even though he hated Rock music, hippies, and materialism.

    So, if we apply Carl-Schmitt-ian analysis to the new STAR WARS, no one should be surprised that the new owners of the Force changed the meaning to suit their ethno-socio-economic purposes. No school of laws, no work of culture, and no set of principles exist in some pure form in a vacuum. They always exist in a world of people with competing interests and agendas. Indeed, even among Christians, different sects disagree on the meaning of Jesus. In many denominations today, homomaniacs have taken over and insist that the faith is about worshiping homos and trannies. And warmongering patriots believe that Christianity is about the flag and guns. So, expecting the STAR WARS universe to remain pristine or resist heretical ideas is wishful thinking. STAR WARS will be whatever those with ownership of it make it to be.
    It's like the Hagia Sophia Mosque in Istanbul. It was originally built as a Christian Cathedral, but Muslims altered the meaning. At one time, Ottoman Turks even altered the Parthenon to serve as a place of prayer for Muslims. But then, Christians had done the same to Pagan Temples. While Christians destroyed some pagan temples, they altered some to serve Jesus than the pagan gods. If we see STAR WARS as a kind of pop mythology or fanboy church, its core meaning will change to the tune of whoever has control over it. Consider the evolution of the Parthenon depending on who held power over Athens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGitmYl6U90

    Another complaint oft-heard from the detractors of the new series is that the nature of the Force has change considerably from the original series. They object to how the Force has become so easy with the young heroine. And Spencer wonders how someone with such humble background could have the Force. But, they are forgetting that George Lucas himself kept changing the nature of the Force. In PHANTOM MENACE, he altered the Force from some mysterious essence to something that can be medically detected in blood. And for those who have problems with the young heroine's humble background in the new series, the old series would have us believe that some slave woman could give a miracle virgin birth to some kid who, at the tender age of 7, can win a hyper-drive chariot race and man spaceships and blow up seasoned enemy pilots. So, if a 7 yr old squirt can do all that, is it really so strange to see a young heroine do 'badass' things?

    Also, if a female slave non-entity(in PHANTOM MENACE) could give a miracle birth to some kid with the Force, why is it so surprising that the heroine in the new series could have super-Force despite being born to humble parents? Besides, if the 20th century taught us anything, it was that those from the humblest backgrounds could become giants of history: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.

    As for the heroine's ease with mastering the Force, we need to understand that pop culture reflects the times. When Lucas made STAR WARS, power was still institutionalized. One had to go through the proper institutions/channels or gain access to big industries to be somebody. To be an influential journalist, one had to gain position at CBS or New York Times. To be an influential thinker, one had to have a position at Harvard or be promoted by top publishing companies and the media. To be a famous cultural celebrity, one had to be hired by TV, Hollywood, radio, or music industry. Even though there were alternative venues and underground artists, it was a tough climb to gain any kind of success, at least immediately. And Lucas struggled in this world. For him to gain access to film technology, he had to work hard and long and make the climb. To gain the Force, one had to go through the institutions controlled by high priests.

    But we now live in the internet age. Even a young person in a small town now has access to more news and information than New York Times did in the pre-internet age. When Lucas grew up, it was difficult to see foreign films. Only college towns and big cities showed them, and one had to wait long time to see certain movies. It was nearly impossible for anyone to see something when he wanted.
    Today, even someone living in the boonies can watch all sorts of movies from all parts of the world on the internet. Even a kid has more access to World Cinema than top film scholars did prior to the internet age.
    Also, even kids carry around smartphones that serve not only as phones but as internet screens, cameras, recording devices, and etc. It's like their light sabers.
    Thus, the Force has gone from institutional and individual in our world. Before the internet, someone like PewDiePie and Stefan Molyneux didn't have a chance at celebrity-hood. Institutions would not have given them the platform to express their views or pull their antics. But internet has been the great equalizer. Anyone can reach the world from inside their bedrooms. Some of these 'amateurs' have more fans and viewership than mainstream media do.
    So, the revision of the Force in the new series could very well reflect social change. Young people with interesting ideas, music, opinions, personalities, or shtick no longer have to make the Long March through the Institutions to say their say, gain a fanbase, develop a cult, and even become fabulously rich. Even demented Andrew Anglin has gained legendary anti-hero status because of the internet. Even with the attempts to shut down Daily Stormer, Anglin still has enough Troll Force to mess with the Narrative.

    Alt Right should know this since its rise owes so much to the internet, the great equalizer that has made it possible for oddballs like Mark Dice and Styxhexenhammer666 to get huge followings. This is why Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, and Google-Search are working in tandem with ADL to rig the game and ban certain voices deemed 'hateful', but the nature of the internet favors individuals over institutions. It has democratized the Force, for good or for ill.

    So, given all these changes and developments in society, is it any wonder that the nature of the Force has changed in the new series? Whereas Luke had to go through the institutions to gain his power, Rey doesn't. The Force has been digitalized and democratized.

    Internet and gadgets like smartphones have empowered individuals in ways that were unforeseeable when Lucas conceived STAR WARS. Just consider how the rise of high-tech allowed young ones to become overnight moguls and billionaires. Prior to the internet, could someone like Mark Zuckerberg become so rich so fast?

    Now, I'm not saying LAST JEDI is a good movie. I haven't seen it. I did see FORCE AWAKENS, and it was terrible. But, we should not be surprised that Force will change along with the change in ownership and will reflect social transformations all around us. In the end, most pop culture, even when set in the distant past or fantasy world, are more reflections of prevailing fashions and trends of the moment than works of purity remaining faithful to a set of core principles inside a bubble.

    Internet made even this young woman a celebrity and a known factor in culture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGEilqBNKwk

    Thanks for this great analysis PrissFactor.

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  29. @Ali Choudhury
    I don't care much for the new Star Wars movies due to the poverty of ideas and blatant rehashing they represent, but I can't see them as anti-white movies. The most prominent, competent and powerful characters are white: Luke, Leia, Rey, Kylo, Hux, Poe Dameron (looks like he has mostly Euro ancestry) and Laura Dern's character. The two major non-white main characters Finn and Rose go on a pointless wild goose chase and avoiding spoilers, screw thing up majorly.

    Disney's second highest grosser Beauty and the Beast had minimal non-white participation and the Marvel movies overwhelmingly have white males as the superheroic leads.

    The most prominent, competent and powerful characters are white: Luke, Leia, Rey, Kylo, Hux, Poe Dameron (looks like he has mostly Euro ancestry) and Laura Dern’s character.

    But they are white traitors who side with Diversity against the Whitey Empire.

    Suppose I make a movie where most of the main heroes are Hindus. But suppose these Hindu characters side with Chinese against India. So, is it a pro-Hindu story?
    Even if main characters are mostly Hindu, the fact is they are working with foreigners against their own kind.

    Whites can be anti-white, and the whites in STAR WARS are anti-white heroes.

    The message is THE ONLY GOOD WHITEY IS ANTI-WHITE.

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    Hey Priss,

    Whites can be anti-white, and the whites in STAR WARS are anti-white heroes.
     
    But this goes fairly far back in Star Wars. Even when I was a teenager watching Star Wars over and over, I noticed that the Empire was basically White Male Humans and the Rebellion was full of all sorts of different aliens. So that particular idea didn't just pop out of the sky all of a sudden in Star Wars.

    It's just gone to a fairly ridiculous SJW level now. The wisdom of an old Sufi-lite teacher like Obi Wan is gone, no more male heroes in the lead either. Now this last thing was expected; Disney keeps cranking out movie after movie where the young girl breaks with cultural tradition, puts the patriarchy in its place, etc.

    Lilo & Stitch was probably the only good one they've made for a long, long time.

    Peace.
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  30. Talha says:
    @Qasim
    At the end of the movie, Finn (who is black) battles the head stormtrooper, after dealing the fatal blow and damaging its mask, you can see a small portion of white skin and one gleaming blue eye before it falls to its death in a fiery inferno. To me it seemed to be a pretty explicit image of an evil white being consumed in the fiery pit of hell as a just recompense for sin and oppression.

    So far, I haven't read anything else that makes this connection, was it just me?

    This article (justifiably) focuses on this film's anti-white animus. I also was shocked at the anti-religious themes. They made a point to keep referring to the Jedi as a religious order, and then Luke decides to go to the temple which holds the scrolls containing 1000 generations of inherited Jedi wisdom and burn it all down. Then Yoda comes, not to stop him, but to expedite the process!! It is the ultimate rejection of organized religion, holy books, traditionalism, patriarchy, and respecting the hard-won wisdom of one's elders and ancestors.

    The thing that really angers me is that my son just got into Star Wars a few years ago, and I really encouraged it, we have really bonded over watching the old films and the new cartoons. I was already troubled by the SJW themes in the cartoon but let it pass, it was nice to have my son think I am so cool for knowing who is who and filling in all the backstory details. To now see these damn films are trying to indoctrinate him in values that are in complete contradiction to what I believe and what drew me to Star Wars as a kid in the first place angers me to no end.

    Salaam Bro,

    Glad you’re back in it…

    Luke decides to go to the temple which holds the scrolls containing 1000 generations of inherited Jedi wisdom and burn it all down.

    Stu…

    Then Yoda comes, not to stop him, but to expedite the process!

    …pid

    Wow – so I guess all that “Force” stuff that was the core glue that ran through all of the Star Wars mythos is just a bunch of nonsense. Sweet Lord – we have progressed beyond all that patriarchal religious mystical tradition!!! Burn it down!

    Now the heroine can have a lesbian threesome with a Wookie and an Ewok – ’cause the Force is a-WOKE-n!

    Sucks that they killed it, it was a fairly cool narrative – oh well, at least I have the memories from the 80′s – good old Saturday mornings!

    Just don’t waste your money on the next one.

    Wa salaam.

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  31. Talha says:
    @Priss Factor
    The most prominent, competent and powerful characters are white: Luke, Leia, Rey, Kylo, Hux, Poe Dameron (looks like he has mostly Euro ancestry) and Laura Dern’s character.

    But they are white traitors who side with Diversity against the Whitey Empire.

    Suppose I make a movie where most of the main heroes are Hindus. But suppose these Hindu characters side with Chinese against India. So, is it a pro-Hindu story?
    Even if main characters are mostly Hindu, the fact is they are working with foreigners against their own kind.

    Whites can be anti-white, and the whites in STAR WARS are anti-white heroes.

    The message is THE ONLY GOOD WHITEY IS ANTI-WHITE.

    Hey Priss,

    Whites can be anti-white, and the whites in STAR WARS are anti-white heroes.

    But this goes fairly far back in Star Wars. Even when I was a teenager watching Star Wars over and over, I noticed that the Empire was basically White Male Humans and the Rebellion was full of all sorts of different aliens. So that particular idea didn’t just pop out of the sky all of a sudden in Star Wars.

    It’s just gone to a fairly ridiculous SJW level now. The wisdom of an old Sufi-lite teacher like Obi Wan is gone, no more male heroes in the lead either. Now this last thing was expected; Disney keeps cranking out movie after movie where the young girl breaks with cultural tradition, puts the patriarchy in its place, etc.

    Lilo & Stitch was probably the only good one they’ve made for a long, long time.

    Peace.

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  32. Star wars was always dumb and still is dumb. Although with George Lucas’s money, his first wife built a beautiful bathroom on Lyon Street in SF. Eight foot tall pieces of book match marble in a big corner bathroom did the trick. That first star wars princess was ugly and acted like a 2×4. The only worse entertainment experience of my time was saturday night live. What a waste of time. (Sometimes I just can’t capitalize)

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  33. I’ve not seen Star Wars but I did see the Lone Ranger and I was astonished that there was not one sympathetic white male character in the story. I assumed that it was made for a Chinese audience. Would this be the case for the modern SW?

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    I assumed that it was made for a Chinese audience. Would this be the case for the modern SW?
     
    It will be interesting to see how Star Wars will be received in China, it will only be released next year. Having a pure sub Saharan African being the love interest of a Chinese female might not go down well with many Chinese people. The talk of the "baizuo" (white SJW) is starting to filter into Chinese society, I am guessing that some already see that the Chinese are not immune from the race destruction that is being targeted on the whites right now, they will eventually be facing the same fate.
    , @Anon
    "I’ve not seen Star Wars but I did see the Lone Ranger and I was astonished that there was not one sympathetic white male character in the story. "

    Probably why that movie tanked and was a huge disaster. Also, Chinese theaters take about 75% of the box office, so it doesn't make economic sense for American companies to make movies specifically for that audience. It looks like Hollywood has forgotten its core audience in an effort to get a new one, kinda like they did with Ghostbusters 2016.
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  34. El Dato says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    WTF man
     
    You are right, I long ago conflated the two, since Lynch's vision is outstanding (I have both short and long versions). Sadly, my more detailed and elaborate response to you didn't post.

    Don’t worry about it.

    Also I really can’t agree that Lynch’s vision is outstanding. It has is Lynchian charms but it has not that much to do with “Dune” and additionally Lunch murders the whole structure in the final scene as if with a final, bad joke. Yes, making it magically rain on Arrakis will KILL THE SPICE and thus Paul’s empire, dead.

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    ... but that's what happens anyway, and Paul has evolved even beyond the level of Stage Threes, so it's the paradigm shift (you only need spice by the ton if you're relying on the Guild, abd you're relying on the Guild because the Sleeper has not yet awakened). I have yet to see a good takedown of Lynch's Dune. It and Flash Gordon have surpassed and survived all the more-successful flotsam of that era.
    Don't want to get into fanboyism.
    I have a certain under-nourished thesis about establishmentarian propaganda getting smarter. Emotional arguing has surpassed all other polemical formats without detection. Fiction allows the creator to make a whole world in which their enemies really are the straw man caricatures portrayed, supported now by in-world logic and histories and therefore made "reasonable." It distresses me to come out of the Gen X hyper media awareness of Max Headroom and Neil Postman and see people falling for this literally Bolshevik small beer.
    Quick, remember the movies Blow, Trainspotting and the shoved-in DEA sequence from the Limey, and identify a cop acting less than perfectly professionally. They're episodes of Dragnet with porn and cursing and good soundtracks distracting you from how square they are. An authentically countercultural movie about the drug war would surely at least remark on the drug war being fake or police corruption.
    Similarly with a lot of SJW-addled Hollywood products, they're massively, clumsily, unapologetically propagandistic, but with such deep immersion into their worldview that a mistaken denial is possible. People are still thinking about propaganda in terms of Frank Capra or The FBI Story, which was a very honest and straightforward exposition: nothing is being snuck in, it's slapping your forehead. Instead we should consider the unapologetic one-sidedness of American Vietnam flicks, or the Israeli movie Siege (or They Were Ten, or Hill 24 Doesn't Answer). All the arguing is emotional and so largely invisibile to folks who should know better.
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  35. The degeneracy of the multi-culti, feminazi, anti-white nonsense of these Star Wars movies can be laid at the feet of George Lucas (a WASP). He is currently married to a negress and has black offspring. He is happy to go along with these changes to the Star Wars movies because he needs movies to which his black offspring can relate. The 1977 Star Wars doesn’t even exist in Lucas’s mind anymore because he knows his black offspring would not like it. His movie “American Graffiti” was a tribute to his 1950′s all American upbringing in Modesto, California. I’m sure he now looks back with regret at that all white, wholesome time in the USA. He’s getting jiggy with it.

    He’s another version of the WASP John Derbyshire who married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/
    In this article Derbyshire states: We can’t make whites as smart as East Asians. He has chosen the Chinese side as Lucas has chosen the negroid side. They believe blacks/Asians are smarter than Caucasians. They are not.

    ‘Groid/gloid lover (((Stefan Molyneux))) is just spouting his usual white man schtick to keep the shekels dropping in his tin cup. His mother was a German Jewess who fled Germany when Hitler took over. (((Molyneux))) been’s doing several youtubes about endangered white males and how females are the cause of the problems in the West. Yet, he bawls for Venezuela (an over 80% nonwhite country with an average IQ of 84), the people are starving, women are selling their bodies, yada yada yada https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaScH2ucDOA

    He thinks the Chinese are smarter than Caucasians. See the 14:35 mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egYfNtx9f1g He believes the only way for the West to survive is to do what Jews have done. See 56 minute mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FduYWW-7cEM

    You can’t blame the Jews for Lucas and Derbyshire. (((Molyneux))) just does what he does because he’s Jewish.

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    You and I might well fall out.
    His father, and my mother, are some kind of cousin. Althought the titles went extinct in the '70s, they were close friends of Edward and the American Woman, and lost favour after the War due to fashy opinions and lack of heirs (made the Kents look like hippies).
    Young Stef there is I think more of the Calais/Irish line, rather than Sefton (& Croxteth), but it's still, what, 952 years since they sauntered into the island?

    By the way, he looks right, nasty goat beard and baldy head and all. All my male (and possibly some female ..) cousins on that side have 'that look'.
    Who gives a flying fuck who his mam was? Azure a cross moline or. Women count for nothing, and the sooner you understand that, the happier you'll die.
    .
    , @AndrewR
    You are either an anti-white troll trying to make pro-white people look bad, or you are a textbook example of the type of person who repels people towards the anti-white agenda. If most white people were like you then I'd be anti-white too.
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  36. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor
    In a way, the New STAR WARS Makes Perfect Sense Given the Change in Ownership from George Lucas to Disney. Force reflects real power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtV2KTeR0o

    Richard Spencer in the video above complains about how the New STAR WARS doesn't respect or conform to the original vision created by George Lucas. And many others have lodged similar complaints. Across the political spectrum, many are not pleased with the new series and especially the new movie because it deviates from the original vision that they grew up with. Many adult audience members spent their formative yrs watching the original series, the first three released from 1977 to 1983 and the second trilogy from 1999 to 2005. So, they have a fixed idea of what STAR WARS universe and the Force are about. Therefore, when confronted with the revisions and narrative-thematic purging of the New Series, they are bewildered and even exasperated by Disney's lack of 'respect' for Lucas' original vision. (But do they ever ask why Lucas still deserves respect when he sold his baby to Disney for billions of shekels?)

    Now, the complainers have a point. The new series may well indeed violate the core principles of Lucas' original vision. It may go against the spirit of the original incarnation under Lucas' command. But they are overlooking certain key facts about the Way of Power in culture. What goes for Power goes for the Force. The Force in STAR WARS is whatever those with the possession of copyright say it is. The Force was what it was as long as Lucas had control over it. But with Jews at Disney now owning STAR WARS, the Force is whatever THEY make it out to be. It's as Carl Schmitt said of the nature of law and power. No law exists outside the reality of power. Basic laws are vaguely worded, and it is the Power that decides the meaning and force of those words. So, when Jews gained control of US culture and jurisprudence, the Constitution came to mean Open Borders, Diversity, Anti-White Dogma(to enforce white submissivism necessary to serve Jewish dominance), and 'Gay Marriage'. Americanism and Constitutionalism were always shaped and determined by the Power. After all, what is Free Speech? Jews once used to say Free Speech means all speech, from far right to far left, should be free.Back then, Jews feared censorship of Jewish radicalism and pornography(big profits for Jews) by traditional Christian power. But once Jews gained supreme power in the US, they came to fear Free Speech as criticism of Jewish Power. Therefore, Jews redefined Free Speech as excluding 'hate speech'. Since Jewish Power controls the meaning of 'hate speech', Zionist speech(that demeans Palestinians) is not 'hate speech', but BDS speech that calls for justice for Palestinians must be criminalized as 'hate'. The Power decides what is 'hate', and that means Jewish elites with supreme power in the US get to denounce and suppress certain speech as 'hateful'.

    What goes for Reality goes for Fantasy. The rules of fantasy will always be controlled by those with power over the fantasy. So, it doesn't matter what Lucas did with the original STAR WARS. It doesn't matter how the Force was manifested in the first six movies. The fact is the power of the Force has gone over to Jews at Disney, and that means Jews will alter the Force to suit their agendas and biases. It's simple as that. So, when Richard Spencer and others talk of STAR WARS as a universe existing independent of copyright ownership and moneyed control, they are being naive. They are presuming that there really is a Core Canonical Principles of the STAR WARS and the dynamics of the Force. No, such was all make-believe and can easily be altered based on whomever is now in control.
    Spencer has emphasized over and over how it's foolish to believe in Constitutionalism as a principle independent of power. He has castigated the so-called True Conservatives who claim to stand for abstract American Values of Liberty and Individualism. His point is that American Constitutionalism will always be determined by those with real power. The Constitution can be molded to mean just about anything. At one time, it even justified slavery and the ethnic cleansing of American Indians. And the 'internment' of the Japanese. And censorship of obscene material offensive to Christians. The Constitution allowed all such censorship and restrictions in the past because the White Christian Majority could will the Constitution to support and defend certain values and interests. But once Jews gained control of the Constitution, the US came to be all about ISRAEL FIRST, favoring Zionists over all other peoples(esp the Palestinians), Open Borders Immigration to turn whites into a minority, and etc. The Constitution now serves the interests of Zionist-Supremacism. And since Jews have chosen Homomania as the proxy agent of Jewish Globlaism, the Worship of Homos and Trannies has become the new christianity or Queertianity. The Christian Church is like the Constitution. In the end, it will be what those in power say it's about. The Power decides and molds & twists the presumed core principles to its will.

    If Spencer is so perceptive about the relation between Power and Laws, why is he so naive and earnest in his assessment of the new STAR WARS movie? He seems baffled as to why the new series violated and betrayed what STAR WARS is really supposed to be about. But his idea of 'real Star Wars' only applies to the franchise that was owned by Lucas. As long as Lucas had power over his baby, he could do as he pleased. But when he sold the Force to Disney, Jews had the power over the Force, and they could bend it to serve their own biases and agendas. It's like if you give your kid up for adoption, the adoptive parents can do whatever they want to with it. Jews can adopt a non-Jew and raise it as a Jew. And of course, the new STAR WARS reflects this reality. What are the agendas of Jewish globalists? It is white feminism. Jews use feminism or man-hate to drive a wedge between white men and white women. By thus setting white women against white men, white race is weakened, and it is easier for Jews to maintain control over white goyim. Jews also push race-mixing to destroy racial and ethnic identities. A people with confused identities are less likely to unite and rise up against the ruling elites. It is also a way to demoralize white males and destroy their pride. By especially promoting interracism between black males and white females, Jews send a message that black males are superior studs while white males are either dorky cucks or wussy homos. And the new STAR WARS is geared to turning its white heroine into a race-mixer. We see this all around in TV commercials, TV shows, and movies. Jews want to make the next James Bond black. Jews want to put the black male on the pedestal as the top alpha male who deserves to take white women. As for white males, they are either old farts who should die or dorky cucks who should delight in their own defeat and humiliation.

    Jews also push for massive 'immigration' to increase Diversity. Why do Jews do this? Jewish elites fear a homogeneous population that might unite against Jewish power. So, Jews seek to increase Diversity and set various goyim against one another. That way, the goyim won't be able to unite as one people against Jewish elites. And of course, the new STAR WARS is all about Diversity, a weapon of Jews against native populations of any nation. Meanwhile, virtually all the villains are white, especially white males.

    In the end, the Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews? According to the original spirit of the Torah, God cannot be manifest in human form. And God's Covenant is with Jews, not with all of humanity. But Christianity had Jesus as Son of God, a human figure walking among mankind. And Christianity said the new covenant is with all of humanity. In the end, it didn't matter how much Jews protested. The fact is when the idea of God passed over to Christian and later Muslim gentiles, they changed or twisted the principles to serve their own interests and agendas. Jewish concept of God was limited only to spaces in which Jews had the power. In gentile spaces where Christians and Muslims had control over the idea of God, His meaning and design could be altered, even drastically, to serve interests inimical to Jews.

    So, what happened to STAR WARS isn't much different from what happened to the concept of the Jewish God once its ownership passed over to gentiles. Via Christian conversion, many gentiles became believers in God, and this belief gave them ownership of the meaning of God. And in their self-interest, they altered and violated many principles so dear to Jews who had once held sole ownership of their God.
    Likewise, STAR WARS owned by Lucas and beloved by so many people had canonical value only as long as its ownership remained with those who remained loyal to the original vision. But once the ownership changed hands, the New Masters were bound to make the franchise serve their own biases and interests.
    This happens with every newspaper or magazine. It doesn't matter what its original masthead declaration of principles was. The new owners will bend the purpose to their own will. This is why The New Republic changed drastically when it was taken over by Neocons under the tutelage of Martin Peretz. And then, once ownership changed once more, it turned into just some homo-globalist hipster rag. Or consider Huffington Post. Despite its name, Ariana Huffington has nothing to do with the new incarnation, and it's changed considerably from what it had been under her control.

    If Alt Right has gained ownership of STARS WARS franchise, they would have made it serve its vision and interests. Richard Spencer as producer-director of STAR WARS would have made the Empire the good guys, and of course, many fans would have screamed Bloody Murder in protest. It's like Stanley Kubrick did his OWN thing with THE SHINING to the never-ending ire of Stephen King who felt Kubrick betrayed his core concept and meaning. But as King had sold movie rights to Kubrick, he was helpless to stop it.
    Indeed, if there is such a thing as Alt Right STAR WARS fanfiction, the narratives likely serve the biases of White Nationalism. But since Jews of Disney own STAR WARS, the franchise is now used to further the Jewish Supremacist agenda of globalism.

    Same thing happened with dialectical communism. The original theory by Karl Marx prophesied that conditions would worsen to the point where the working class would rise up to overthrow the bourgeoisie. Since the Proletariat was essential to this revolution, only an industrialized nation with a majority prole population could undergo the great tranformation. But when Lenin and Stalin took control of the theory, it was altered so that even a backward semi-industrial nation like Russia could have a communist revolution. Spontaneous uprising by the working class was no longer necessary. A radical vanguard with the support of secret police apparatus could pull it off. Later, Mao altered the meaning of Marxism even more by arguing that a communist revolution could happen with a peasant army. So, despite the original canonical meaning of Marxist theory, in the real world of actual practice, Marxism could be molded to be anything by the powers-that-be. If Maoism said Marxism could prevail in an agricultural society, that was the official lore of the land.And later, when reformers took control of China, communism could mean market economics. So, even as the Chinese Communist Party maintained the symbolism of Mao, the Red Flag, and revolutionary pageantry, the New Way was about buying-and-selling, trade with capitalist powers, and getting rich. Indeed, consider how Che Guevara became linked with capitalist pop culture and hedonism even though he hated Rock music, hippies, and materialism.

    So, if we apply Carl-Schmitt-ian analysis to the new STAR WARS, no one should be surprised that the new owners of the Force changed the meaning to suit their ethno-socio-economic purposes. No school of laws, no work of culture, and no set of principles exist in some pure form in a vacuum. They always exist in a world of people with competing interests and agendas. Indeed, even among Christians, different sects disagree on the meaning of Jesus. In many denominations today, homomaniacs have taken over and insist that the faith is about worshiping homos and trannies. And warmongering patriots believe that Christianity is about the flag and guns. So, expecting the STAR WARS universe to remain pristine or resist heretical ideas is wishful thinking. STAR WARS will be whatever those with ownership of it make it to be.
    It's like the Hagia Sophia Mosque in Istanbul. It was originally built as a Christian Cathedral, but Muslims altered the meaning. At one time, Ottoman Turks even altered the Parthenon to serve as a place of prayer for Muslims. But then, Christians had done the same to Pagan Temples. While Christians destroyed some pagan temples, they altered some to serve Jesus than the pagan gods. If we see STAR WARS as a kind of pop mythology or fanboy church, its core meaning will change to the tune of whoever has control over it. Consider the evolution of the Parthenon depending on who held power over Athens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGitmYl6U90

    Another complaint oft-heard from the detractors of the new series is that the nature of the Force has change considerably from the original series. They object to how the Force has become so easy with the young heroine. And Spencer wonders how someone with such humble background could have the Force. But, they are forgetting that George Lucas himself kept changing the nature of the Force. In PHANTOM MENACE, he altered the Force from some mysterious essence to something that can be medically detected in blood. And for those who have problems with the young heroine's humble background in the new series, the old series would have us believe that some slave woman could give a miracle virgin birth to some kid who, at the tender age of 7, can win a hyper-drive chariot race and man spaceships and blow up seasoned enemy pilots. So, if a 7 yr old squirt can do all that, is it really so strange to see a young heroine do 'badass' things?

    Also, if a female slave non-entity(in PHANTOM MENACE) could give a miracle birth to some kid with the Force, why is it so surprising that the heroine in the new series could have super-Force despite being born to humble parents? Besides, if the 20th century taught us anything, it was that those from the humblest backgrounds could become giants of history: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.

    As for the heroine's ease with mastering the Force, we need to understand that pop culture reflects the times. When Lucas made STAR WARS, power was still institutionalized. One had to go through the proper institutions/channels or gain access to big industries to be somebody. To be an influential journalist, one had to gain position at CBS or New York Times. To be an influential thinker, one had to have a position at Harvard or be promoted by top publishing companies and the media. To be a famous cultural celebrity, one had to be hired by TV, Hollywood, radio, or music industry. Even though there were alternative venues and underground artists, it was a tough climb to gain any kind of success, at least immediately. And Lucas struggled in this world. For him to gain access to film technology, he had to work hard and long and make the climb. To gain the Force, one had to go through the institutions controlled by high priests.

    But we now live in the internet age. Even a young person in a small town now has access to more news and information than New York Times did in the pre-internet age. When Lucas grew up, it was difficult to see foreign films. Only college towns and big cities showed them, and one had to wait long time to see certain movies. It was nearly impossible for anyone to see something when he wanted.
    Today, even someone living in the boonies can watch all sorts of movies from all parts of the world on the internet. Even a kid has more access to World Cinema than top film scholars did prior to the internet age.
    Also, even kids carry around smartphones that serve not only as phones but as internet screens, cameras, recording devices, and etc. It's like their light sabers.
    Thus, the Force has gone from institutional and individual in our world. Before the internet, someone like PewDiePie and Stefan Molyneux didn't have a chance at celebrity-hood. Institutions would not have given them the platform to express their views or pull their antics. But internet has been the great equalizer. Anyone can reach the world from inside their bedrooms. Some of these 'amateurs' have more fans and viewership than mainstream media do.
    So, the revision of the Force in the new series could very well reflect social change. Young people with interesting ideas, music, opinions, personalities, or shtick no longer have to make the Long March through the Institutions to say their say, gain a fanbase, develop a cult, and even become fabulously rich. Even demented Andrew Anglin has gained legendary anti-hero status because of the internet. Even with the attempts to shut down Daily Stormer, Anglin still has enough Troll Force to mess with the Narrative.

    Alt Right should know this since its rise owes so much to the internet, the great equalizer that has made it possible for oddballs like Mark Dice and Styxhexenhammer666 to get huge followings. This is why Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, and Google-Search are working in tandem with ADL to rig the game and ban certain voices deemed 'hateful', but the nature of the internet favors individuals over institutions. It has democratized the Force, for good or for ill.

    So, given all these changes and developments in society, is it any wonder that the nature of the Force has changed in the new series? Whereas Luke had to go through the institutions to gain his power, Rey doesn't. The Force has been digitalized and democratized.

    Internet and gadgets like smartphones have empowered individuals in ways that were unforeseeable when Lucas conceived STAR WARS. Just consider how the rise of high-tech allowed young ones to become overnight moguls and billionaires. Prior to the internet, could someone like Mark Zuckerberg become so rich so fast?

    Now, I'm not saying LAST JEDI is a good movie. I haven't seen it. I did see FORCE AWAKENS, and it was terrible. But, we should not be surprised that Force will change along with the change in ownership and will reflect social transformations all around us. In the end, most pop culture, even when set in the distant past or fantasy world, are more reflections of prevailing fashions and trends of the moment than works of purity remaining faithful to a set of core principles inside a bubble.

    Internet made even this young woman a celebrity and a known factor in culture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGEilqBNKwk

    Internet and gadgets like smartphones have empowered individuals in ways that were unforeseeable when Lucas conceived STAR WARS. Just consider how the rise of high-tech allowed young ones to become overnight moguls and billionaires. Prior to the internet, could someone like Mark Zuckerberg become so rich so fast?

    It’s all an illusion, a hormone-driven gigantic mutant chicken. The illusion of knowledge, the illusion of skills. All these connected gadgetries do not make people more connected, knowledgeable, capable of processing information, performing analysis or drawing correct conclusions. For that you need time, quiet time of reflection and lots of study of contradictory opinions and statements. Often found in very unfunny works.

    Talking Jedi and martial arts. There is a reason the Asians have a tradition of “the way” – skill acquisition is a long process, it demands discipline and dedication and ego control and frustration management. All of these qualities seem to become elusive. Instant success sells. People demand fast-food skill acquisition and actually believe they can get it. Hop over to a 2-week course of Krav Maga, problem solved. Get immediate Jedi skills, why not. It takes the pain out of having visit courses for 10 years – or even a lifetime.

    I hear Koreans dojos have degenerated to the point of becoming grade and fad selling machines – sad but not surprising.

    Now, getting rich à la Zuckerberg is about being the right guy at the right time and the last one standing in that particular niche, but it has also a lot to do with bubble economics (cash is cheap, there is a lot of it) and “sharp practices”: advertisement-driven revenue, selling profiles of other people’s behaviour (aka. “if it’s free, the product is you”) and I suppose, smooching the right people on the Govnmt side.

    Internet made even this young woman a celebrity and a known factor in culture:

    I don’t know her. Is this actually Boxxy?

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  37. @RadicalCenter
    Exactly right, my paisan.

    You have a Chinese wife and offspring. They are not white nationalists. These new Star Wars movies are just for them.

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  38. El Dato says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    WTF man, the “Weirding Way” is something David Lynch invented to make his hilariously terribad movie plot sellable and frackable into 120 minutes.
     
    Now that I am at work and have a free time (wink, wink-oh, just the end of the year) I can elaborate a bit.

    1. Dune as a book is rather dry and very limited in physical description of Dune universe, concentrating mostly on politics and geopolitics. Even the Dune Encyclopedia published from Frank Herbert's blessing (and now stopped from reprint by his talent-less son--SOB) is not entirely up to the task, despite expanding on Dune's universe in some detail in some aspects. F.e. Language structure or even Fremen music tradition are rather overbearing parts, among some.

    2. Lynch gave Dune a visual which Frank Herbert himself (he was on the set very often observing in admiration) admitted was perfect. Obviously the Weirding Way was introduced by Lynch since he stated that it would be stupid to shoot Fremen "kung-fu fighting in the sand"(c). But Lynch's visual solutions are absolutely genius in its grimness and paleofuture feel and as such they long ago complemented and greatly at that the book.

    3. It is sort of like Bondarchuk's genius adaptation of Tolstoy's War and Peace, when book characters come alive and you can not see them and their world otherwise. Same here with Lynch both 2 hr. 20 and his 3+ hours (disowned by him) versions of the Dune. I wish they released all 4+ hours of footage, even without editing.

    4. Star Wars draws heavily on Dune. Here is the entry from Wiki.

    Star Wars shares many similarities with Frank Herbert's Dune,[20] including the desert planet setting with a moisture-based economy, spice smugglers, obese interstellar antagonists, and a mystical mind control-using sect with great influence over galactic politics — Herbert himself once enumerated 37 similarities.[21] The influence was even more distinct in early Star Wars versions, with Princess Leia guarding a shipment of "aura spice" instead of the Death Star plans. The script for Jodorowsky's Dune was circulating in Hollywood at the time of Lucas' early work on Star Wars.[22][23][24]
     

    Well, the desert visuals were kinda great and really stay with out for a long time but I just don’t understand Lynch completely and lubelessly messing up the book. Already in the first scene we see the Emperor as under the heel of the Guild, a reveal that is completely pointless as nobody fights the Guild in the whole movie. In the book the Emperor is clearly in charge – balancing forces, but in charge. There is weird mumbo-jumbo being injected sideways, as if Twin Peaks had come through an interdimensional portal. Meatloaf is too horrific, Sting and Kyle are too old (both should be 16yo brats), Bene Gesserit witches should actually be good-looking (I’m talking long-haired anime girl good looking with the brains to go with it), the hairless cat idea was too bizarre, thumpers are too big, desert suits should be anything else but black and should have hoods, spice eyes should be completely blue, no white allowed, and in the end it rains (whut??) but Alia is cool.

    Star Wars is all about fast-paced hyperspace-enhanced swasbuckling whereas Dune is all about politics and control and religion and economic forces in temporary equilibrium. Tatooine is just some completely unimportant boondocks. Dune is the most important place of the empire, doubly so as it also reveals itself as the second super-soldier breeding ground. There is a claustrophobia in the fact only Guild heighliners can do interstellar travel. Even imperial and private military depend on them (please pay the reception and no going to Alderaan on a whim). The Guild even has the monopoly on weather sats around Dune which is why poor Vlad has no idea what’s brewing the deep south (always a weird idea, why not launch a sat from Arrakeen, self-financed … well, many of ideas do not make full sense. But it’s all charming.

    I wonder what would have become of Jodorowsky’s Dune, never seen the documentary. His 80s “Incal”, drawn by Moebius is fun (don’t bother getting the electronically “reedited/recolored” version, it’s utter crap: http://funnybookbabylon.com/2008/10/20/re-coloring-moebius/ ) but after that he worked without Moebius and teamed up with Gimenez and other illustrators. He went “Freudian” to the point of being entirely unenjoyable: Rape, abasement, torture, slavery, incest, genocide, more rape, ultrakill, more abasement, atrocities of all kind. A power-duo with Lynch, maybe?

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    I’ve read the first 2 Dune books several times and seen the movie.

    But I could never figure out exactly why spice was so valuable and what it was used for.
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  39. JimB says:

    Apparently the plot of Last Jedi is an incoherent mess. There is no compelling overarching A plot, just a bunch of B plots where the diverse characters vying for camera time either fail miserably or end up where they started; there are no character arcs. The actors have no chemistry, which is hardly surprising, and there were no romantic subplots like the Han and Leia story. SJW critics can crow all they like about the Last Jedi being a great symbol for the Last White Man, but when the white men are fully purged from the franchise, don’t expect a pack of Mary Sues and Numinous Negroes to save the next installment of Star Wars at the box office. The Star Wars franchise is going down hard.

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  40. Saw it on the 27th, kids treated me for old times’ sake. Takeaway?
    Old white women with ludicrously huge noses and English accents (like kinda witches?) are just Bad News. Incompetent and indecisive.
    Yeah all those (X-hundred, mostly male meat-puppets) died, but, hey, I’m still here, yay Rebel Forces! (All four of us, thanks to muh strategic imbecility). Lotta continua!!

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  41. Escher says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    I did not know Star wars was sci fi. Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially Foundation series. Star Wars original book is unreadable. Total garbage. I tried to read it long time ago without much success.

    The Foundation trilogy is one of the all time great science fiction sagas. Cannot put dreck like Star Wars in the same category.

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  42. @attilathehen
    The degeneracy of the multi-culti, feminazi, anti-white nonsense of these Star Wars movies can be laid at the feet of George Lucas (a WASP). He is currently married to a negress and has black offspring. He is happy to go along with these changes to the Star Wars movies because he needs movies to which his black offspring can relate. The 1977 Star Wars doesn't even exist in Lucas's mind anymore because he knows his black offspring would not like it. His movie "American Graffiti" was a tribute to his 1950's all American upbringing in Modesto, California. I'm sure he now looks back with regret at that all white, wholesome time in the USA. He's getting jiggy with it.

    He's another version of the WASP John Derbyshire who married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/
    In this article Derbyshire states: We can’t make whites as smart as East Asians. He has chosen the Chinese side as Lucas has chosen the negroid side. They believe blacks/Asians are smarter than Caucasians. They are not.

    'Groid/gloid lover (((Stefan Molyneux))) is just spouting his usual white man schtick to keep the shekels dropping in his tin cup. His mother was a German Jewess who fled Germany when Hitler took over. (((Molyneux))) been's doing several youtubes about endangered white males and how females are the cause of the problems in the West. Yet, he bawls for Venezuela (an over 80% nonwhite country with an average IQ of 84), the people are starving, women are selling their bodies, yada yada yada https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaScH2ucDOA

    He thinks the Chinese are smarter than Caucasians. See the 14:35 mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egYfNtx9f1g He believes the only way for the West to survive is to do what Jews have done. See 56 minute mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FduYWW-7cEM

    You can't blame the Jews for Lucas and Derbyshire. (((Molyneux))) just does what he does because he's Jewish.

    You and I might well fall out.
    His father, and my mother, are some kind of cousin. Althought the titles went extinct in the ’70s, they were close friends of Edward and the American Woman, and lost favour after the War due to fashy opinions and lack of heirs (made the Kents look like hippies).
    Young Stef there is I think more of the Calais/Irish line, rather than Sefton (& Croxteth), but it’s still, what, 952 years since they sauntered into the island?

    By the way, he looks right, nasty goat beard and baldy head and all. All my male (and possibly some female ..) cousins on that side have ‘that look’.
    Who gives a flying fuck who his mam was? Azure a cross moline or. Women count for nothing, and the sooner you understand that, the happier you’ll die.
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    Expletive Deleted: This is a half-arsed, @✴#ed up comment. But your relation to (((Molyneux))) is a reason for this illogical writing. His mammy matters because Jewishness is matrilineal. He did go to Christian schools, but he Joooooy through and through. "Women count for nothing...," tell that to your mammy, or any women in your life (if you dare).

    As usual, I quote facts and I get emotional, cuck drivel in return.
    , @AndrewR
    Why treat him as someone worthy of earnestly engaging with?
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  43. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha
    It's for a lobotomized audience. I haven't watched a single one of the Transformers series, but I keep reading how much money the films keep making. Idiot film for idiot audiences.

    I take my kids to some of the new kids movies, but I have fallen asleep in every one of them save one.

    Give me good Japanese cinema (not dubbed) from the 50's - 70's any day (many films which form the archetypes for many Hollywood plots anyway).

    Peace.

    When I was a little kid, my dad took me to see 2001, but it creeped me out . He then took me to watch Star Wars and I loved it!

    I did not make my father proud.

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    When I was a little kid, my dad took me to see 2001, but it creeped me out . He then took me to watch Star Wars and I loved it!

     

    When I was a little kid (i.e. 8), my dad took me to see Star Wars. I didn't understand the plot or motivations or even the rapid changes in scenery at all (basically the sand and huge machines careening and exploding is what remained) but Darth Vader traumatized me for weeks. Who WAS that demonic guy?

    I also remember je took me to see James Bond: Moonraker. The gratuitous off-handed killing traumatized me even more. (But I fell in love with Corinne Cléry)

    A year later he took me to see 2001, and I didn't understand anything but it's why I am interested in IT. Discovery is the immense achievement of bringing ORDER into the chaos of APEWORLD (though less than GODLIKE achievement as the play shows)
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  44. Malla says:

    Why would anybody watch Hollywood movies?
    It is nothing but the propaganda arm of the elites. For thousands of years humans have survived without Hellywood, why not now?

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  45. neutral says:
    @Philip Owen
    I've not seen Star Wars but I did see the Lone Ranger and I was astonished that there was not one sympathetic white male character in the story. I assumed that it was made for a Chinese audience. Would this be the case for the modern SW?

    I assumed that it was made for a Chinese audience. Would this be the case for the modern SW?

    It will be interesting to see how Star Wars will be received in China, it will only be released next year. Having a pure sub Saharan African being the love interest of a Chinese female might not go down well with many Chinese people. The talk of the “baizuo” (white SJW) is starting to filter into Chinese society, I am guessing that some already see that the Chinese are not immune from the race destruction that is being targeted on the whites right now, they will eventually be facing the same fate.

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  46. Miro23 says:
    @Priss Factor
    In a way, the New STAR WARS Makes Perfect Sense Given the Change in Ownership from George Lucas to Disney. Force reflects real power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtV2KTeR0o

    Richard Spencer in the video above complains about how the New STAR WARS doesn't respect or conform to the original vision created by George Lucas. And many others have lodged similar complaints. Across the political spectrum, many are not pleased with the new series and especially the new movie because it deviates from the original vision that they grew up with. Many adult audience members spent their formative yrs watching the original series, the first three released from 1977 to 1983 and the second trilogy from 1999 to 2005. So, they have a fixed idea of what STAR WARS universe and the Force are about. Therefore, when confronted with the revisions and narrative-thematic purging of the New Series, they are bewildered and even exasperated by Disney's lack of 'respect' for Lucas' original vision. (But do they ever ask why Lucas still deserves respect when he sold his baby to Disney for billions of shekels?)

    Now, the complainers have a point. The new series may well indeed violate the core principles of Lucas' original vision. It may go against the spirit of the original incarnation under Lucas' command. But they are overlooking certain key facts about the Way of Power in culture. What goes for Power goes for the Force. The Force in STAR WARS is whatever those with the possession of copyright say it is. The Force was what it was as long as Lucas had control over it. But with Jews at Disney now owning STAR WARS, the Force is whatever THEY make it out to be. It's as Carl Schmitt said of the nature of law and power. No law exists outside the reality of power. Basic laws are vaguely worded, and it is the Power that decides the meaning and force of those words. So, when Jews gained control of US culture and jurisprudence, the Constitution came to mean Open Borders, Diversity, Anti-White Dogma(to enforce white submissivism necessary to serve Jewish dominance), and 'Gay Marriage'. Americanism and Constitutionalism were always shaped and determined by the Power. After all, what is Free Speech? Jews once used to say Free Speech means all speech, from far right to far left, should be free.Back then, Jews feared censorship of Jewish radicalism and pornography(big profits for Jews) by traditional Christian power. But once Jews gained supreme power in the US, they came to fear Free Speech as criticism of Jewish Power. Therefore, Jews redefined Free Speech as excluding 'hate speech'. Since Jewish Power controls the meaning of 'hate speech', Zionist speech(that demeans Palestinians) is not 'hate speech', but BDS speech that calls for justice for Palestinians must be criminalized as 'hate'. The Power decides what is 'hate', and that means Jewish elites with supreme power in the US get to denounce and suppress certain speech as 'hateful'.

    What goes for Reality goes for Fantasy. The rules of fantasy will always be controlled by those with power over the fantasy. So, it doesn't matter what Lucas did with the original STAR WARS. It doesn't matter how the Force was manifested in the first six movies. The fact is the power of the Force has gone over to Jews at Disney, and that means Jews will alter the Force to suit their agendas and biases. It's simple as that. So, when Richard Spencer and others talk of STAR WARS as a universe existing independent of copyright ownership and moneyed control, they are being naive. They are presuming that there really is a Core Canonical Principles of the STAR WARS and the dynamics of the Force. No, such was all make-believe and can easily be altered based on whomever is now in control.
    Spencer has emphasized over and over how it's foolish to believe in Constitutionalism as a principle independent of power. He has castigated the so-called True Conservatives who claim to stand for abstract American Values of Liberty and Individualism. His point is that American Constitutionalism will always be determined by those with real power. The Constitution can be molded to mean just about anything. At one time, it even justified slavery and the ethnic cleansing of American Indians. And the 'internment' of the Japanese. And censorship of obscene material offensive to Christians. The Constitution allowed all such censorship and restrictions in the past because the White Christian Majority could will the Constitution to support and defend certain values and interests. But once Jews gained control of the Constitution, the US came to be all about ISRAEL FIRST, favoring Zionists over all other peoples(esp the Palestinians), Open Borders Immigration to turn whites into a minority, and etc. The Constitution now serves the interests of Zionist-Supremacism. And since Jews have chosen Homomania as the proxy agent of Jewish Globlaism, the Worship of Homos and Trannies has become the new christianity or Queertianity. The Christian Church is like the Constitution. In the end, it will be what those in power say it's about. The Power decides and molds & twists the presumed core principles to its will.

    If Spencer is so perceptive about the relation between Power and Laws, why is he so naive and earnest in his assessment of the new STAR WARS movie? He seems baffled as to why the new series violated and betrayed what STAR WARS is really supposed to be about. But his idea of 'real Star Wars' only applies to the franchise that was owned by Lucas. As long as Lucas had power over his baby, he could do as he pleased. But when he sold the Force to Disney, Jews had the power over the Force, and they could bend it to serve their own biases and agendas. It's like if you give your kid up for adoption, the adoptive parents can do whatever they want to with it. Jews can adopt a non-Jew and raise it as a Jew. And of course, the new STAR WARS reflects this reality. What are the agendas of Jewish globalists? It is white feminism. Jews use feminism or man-hate to drive a wedge between white men and white women. By thus setting white women against white men, white race is weakened, and it is easier for Jews to maintain control over white goyim. Jews also push race-mixing to destroy racial and ethnic identities. A people with confused identities are less likely to unite and rise up against the ruling elites. It is also a way to demoralize white males and destroy their pride. By especially promoting interracism between black males and white females, Jews send a message that black males are superior studs while white males are either dorky cucks or wussy homos. And the new STAR WARS is geared to turning its white heroine into a race-mixer. We see this all around in TV commercials, TV shows, and movies. Jews want to make the next James Bond black. Jews want to put the black male on the pedestal as the top alpha male who deserves to take white women. As for white males, they are either old farts who should die or dorky cucks who should delight in their own defeat and humiliation.

    Jews also push for massive 'immigration' to increase Diversity. Why do Jews do this? Jewish elites fear a homogeneous population that might unite against Jewish power. So, Jews seek to increase Diversity and set various goyim against one another. That way, the goyim won't be able to unite as one people against Jewish elites. And of course, the new STAR WARS is all about Diversity, a weapon of Jews against native populations of any nation. Meanwhile, virtually all the villains are white, especially white males.

    In the end, the Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews? According to the original spirit of the Torah, God cannot be manifest in human form. And God's Covenant is with Jews, not with all of humanity. But Christianity had Jesus as Son of God, a human figure walking among mankind. And Christianity said the new covenant is with all of humanity. In the end, it didn't matter how much Jews protested. The fact is when the idea of God passed over to Christian and later Muslim gentiles, they changed or twisted the principles to serve their own interests and agendas. Jewish concept of God was limited only to spaces in which Jews had the power. In gentile spaces where Christians and Muslims had control over the idea of God, His meaning and design could be altered, even drastically, to serve interests inimical to Jews.

    So, what happened to STAR WARS isn't much different from what happened to the concept of the Jewish God once its ownership passed over to gentiles. Via Christian conversion, many gentiles became believers in God, and this belief gave them ownership of the meaning of God. And in their self-interest, they altered and violated many principles so dear to Jews who had once held sole ownership of their God.
    Likewise, STAR WARS owned by Lucas and beloved by so many people had canonical value only as long as its ownership remained with those who remained loyal to the original vision. But once the ownership changed hands, the New Masters were bound to make the franchise serve their own biases and interests.
    This happens with every newspaper or magazine. It doesn't matter what its original masthead declaration of principles was. The new owners will bend the purpose to their own will. This is why The New Republic changed drastically when it was taken over by Neocons under the tutelage of Martin Peretz. And then, once ownership changed once more, it turned into just some homo-globalist hipster rag. Or consider Huffington Post. Despite its name, Ariana Huffington has nothing to do with the new incarnation, and it's changed considerably from what it had been under her control.

    If Alt Right has gained ownership of STARS WARS franchise, they would have made it serve its vision and interests. Richard Spencer as producer-director of STAR WARS would have made the Empire the good guys, and of course, many fans would have screamed Bloody Murder in protest. It's like Stanley Kubrick did his OWN thing with THE SHINING to the never-ending ire of Stephen King who felt Kubrick betrayed his core concept and meaning. But as King had sold movie rights to Kubrick, he was helpless to stop it.
    Indeed, if there is such a thing as Alt Right STAR WARS fanfiction, the narratives likely serve the biases of White Nationalism. But since Jews of Disney own STAR WARS, the franchise is now used to further the Jewish Supremacist agenda of globalism.

    Same thing happened with dialectical communism. The original theory by Karl Marx prophesied that conditions would worsen to the point where the working class would rise up to overthrow the bourgeoisie. Since the Proletariat was essential to this revolution, only an industrialized nation with a majority prole population could undergo the great tranformation. But when Lenin and Stalin took control of the theory, it was altered so that even a backward semi-industrial nation like Russia could have a communist revolution. Spontaneous uprising by the working class was no longer necessary. A radical vanguard with the support of secret police apparatus could pull it off. Later, Mao altered the meaning of Marxism even more by arguing that a communist revolution could happen with a peasant army. So, despite the original canonical meaning of Marxist theory, in the real world of actual practice, Marxism could be molded to be anything by the powers-that-be. If Maoism said Marxism could prevail in an agricultural society, that was the official lore of the land.And later, when reformers took control of China, communism could mean market economics. So, even as the Chinese Communist Party maintained the symbolism of Mao, the Red Flag, and revolutionary pageantry, the New Way was about buying-and-selling, trade with capitalist powers, and getting rich. Indeed, consider how Che Guevara became linked with capitalist pop culture and hedonism even though he hated Rock music, hippies, and materialism.

    So, if we apply Carl-Schmitt-ian analysis to the new STAR WARS, no one should be surprised that the new owners of the Force changed the meaning to suit their ethno-socio-economic purposes. No school of laws, no work of culture, and no set of principles exist in some pure form in a vacuum. They always exist in a world of people with competing interests and agendas. Indeed, even among Christians, different sects disagree on the meaning of Jesus. In many denominations today, homomaniacs have taken over and insist that the faith is about worshiping homos and trannies. And warmongering patriots believe that Christianity is about the flag and guns. So, expecting the STAR WARS universe to remain pristine or resist heretical ideas is wishful thinking. STAR WARS will be whatever those with ownership of it make it to be.
    It's like the Hagia Sophia Mosque in Istanbul. It was originally built as a Christian Cathedral, but Muslims altered the meaning. At one time, Ottoman Turks even altered the Parthenon to serve as a place of prayer for Muslims. But then, Christians had done the same to Pagan Temples. While Christians destroyed some pagan temples, they altered some to serve Jesus than the pagan gods. If we see STAR WARS as a kind of pop mythology or fanboy church, its core meaning will change to the tune of whoever has control over it. Consider the evolution of the Parthenon depending on who held power over Athens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGitmYl6U90

    Another complaint oft-heard from the detractors of the new series is that the nature of the Force has change considerably from the original series. They object to how the Force has become so easy with the young heroine. And Spencer wonders how someone with such humble background could have the Force. But, they are forgetting that George Lucas himself kept changing the nature of the Force. In PHANTOM MENACE, he altered the Force from some mysterious essence to something that can be medically detected in blood. And for those who have problems with the young heroine's humble background in the new series, the old series would have us believe that some slave woman could give a miracle virgin birth to some kid who, at the tender age of 7, can win a hyper-drive chariot race and man spaceships and blow up seasoned enemy pilots. So, if a 7 yr old squirt can do all that, is it really so strange to see a young heroine do 'badass' things?

    Also, if a female slave non-entity(in PHANTOM MENACE) could give a miracle birth to some kid with the Force, why is it so surprising that the heroine in the new series could have super-Force despite being born to humble parents? Besides, if the 20th century taught us anything, it was that those from the humblest backgrounds could become giants of history: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.

    As for the heroine's ease with mastering the Force, we need to understand that pop culture reflects the times. When Lucas made STAR WARS, power was still institutionalized. One had to go through the proper institutions/channels or gain access to big industries to be somebody. To be an influential journalist, one had to gain position at CBS or New York Times. To be an influential thinker, one had to have a position at Harvard or be promoted by top publishing companies and the media. To be a famous cultural celebrity, one had to be hired by TV, Hollywood, radio, or music industry. Even though there were alternative venues and underground artists, it was a tough climb to gain any kind of success, at least immediately. And Lucas struggled in this world. For him to gain access to film technology, he had to work hard and long and make the climb. To gain the Force, one had to go through the institutions controlled by high priests.

    But we now live in the internet age. Even a young person in a small town now has access to more news and information than New York Times did in the pre-internet age. When Lucas grew up, it was difficult to see foreign films. Only college towns and big cities showed them, and one had to wait long time to see certain movies. It was nearly impossible for anyone to see something when he wanted.
    Today, even someone living in the boonies can watch all sorts of movies from all parts of the world on the internet. Even a kid has more access to World Cinema than top film scholars did prior to the internet age.
    Also, even kids carry around smartphones that serve not only as phones but as internet screens, cameras, recording devices, and etc. It's like their light sabers.
    Thus, the Force has gone from institutional and individual in our world. Before the internet, someone like PewDiePie and Stefan Molyneux didn't have a chance at celebrity-hood. Institutions would not have given them the platform to express their views or pull their antics. But internet has been the great equalizer. Anyone can reach the world from inside their bedrooms. Some of these 'amateurs' have more fans and viewership than mainstream media do.
    So, the revision of the Force in the new series could very well reflect social change. Young people with interesting ideas, music, opinions, personalities, or shtick no longer have to make the Long March through the Institutions to say their say, gain a fanbase, develop a cult, and even become fabulously rich. Even demented Andrew Anglin has gained legendary anti-hero status because of the internet. Even with the attempts to shut down Daily Stormer, Anglin still has enough Troll Force to mess with the Narrative.

    Alt Right should know this since its rise owes so much to the internet, the great equalizer that has made it possible for oddballs like Mark Dice and Styxhexenhammer666 to get huge followings. This is why Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, and Google-Search are working in tandem with ADL to rig the game and ban certain voices deemed 'hateful', but the nature of the internet favors individuals over institutions. It has democratized the Force, for good or for ill.

    So, given all these changes and developments in society, is it any wonder that the nature of the Force has changed in the new series? Whereas Luke had to go through the institutions to gain his power, Rey doesn't. The Force has been digitalized and democratized.

    Internet and gadgets like smartphones have empowered individuals in ways that were unforeseeable when Lucas conceived STAR WARS. Just consider how the rise of high-tech allowed young ones to become overnight moguls and billionaires. Prior to the internet, could someone like Mark Zuckerberg become so rich so fast?

    Now, I'm not saying LAST JEDI is a good movie. I haven't seen it. I did see FORCE AWAKENS, and it was terrible. But, we should not be surprised that Force will change along with the change in ownership and will reflect social transformations all around us. In the end, most pop culture, even when set in the distant past or fantasy world, are more reflections of prevailing fashions and trends of the moment than works of purity remaining faithful to a set of core principles inside a bubble.

    Internet made even this young woman a celebrity and a known factor in culture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGEilqBNKwk

    I don’t know who Carl Schmitt was, but “No law exists outside the reality of power” surely explains what’s going on. It’s the capture of US centers of power by Jewish-Zionist activists enabling a race war against Anglo Americans.

    It’s as Carl Schmitt said of the nature of law and power. No law exists outside the reality of power. Basic laws are vaguely worded, and it is the Power that decides the meaning and force of those words. So, when Jews gained control of US culture and jurisprudence, the Constitution came to mean Open Borders, Diversity, Anti-White Dogma(to enforce white submissivism necessary to serve Jewish dominance), and ‘Gay Marriage’. Americanism and Constitutionalism were always shaped and determined by the Power. After all, what is Free Speech? Jews once used to say Free Speech means all speech, from far right to far left, should be free. Back then, Jews feared censorship of Jewish radicalism and pornography(big profits for Jews) by traditional Christian power. But once Jews gained supreme power in the US, they came to fear Free Speech as criticism of Jewish Power. Therefore, Jews redefined Free Speech as excluding ‘hate speech’. Since Jewish Power controls the meaning of ‘hate speech’, Zionist speech(that demeans Palestinians) is not ‘hate speech’, but BDS speech that calls for justice for Palestinians must be criminalized as ‘hate’. The Power decides what is ‘hate’, and that means Jewish elites with supreme power in the US get to denounce and suppress certain speech as ‘hateful’.

    Exactly right.

    But once Jews gained control of the Constitution, the US came to be all about ISRAEL FIRST, favoring Zionists over all other peoples(esp. the Palestinians), Open Borders Immigration to turn whites into a minority, and etc. The Constitution now serves the interests of Zionist-Supremacism. And since Jews have chosen Homomania as the proxy agent of Jewish Globalism, the Worship of Homos and Trannies has become the new Christianity or Queertianity. The Christian Church is like the Constitution. In the end, it will be what those in power say it’s about. The Power decides and molds & twists the presumed core principles to its will.

    And the best explanation ever of religion:

    In the end, the Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews? According to the original spirit of the Torah, God cannot be manifest in human form. And God’s Covenant is with Jews, not with all of humanity. But Christianity had Jesus as Son of God, a human figure walking among mankind. And Christianity said the new covenant is with all of humanity. In the end, it didn’t matter how much Jews protested. The fact is when the idea of God passed over to Christian and later Muslim gentiles, they changed or twisted the principles to serve their own interests and agendas. Jewish concept of God was limited only to spaces in which Jews had the power. In gentile spaces where Christians and Muslims had control over the idea of God, His meaning and design could be altered, even drastically, to serve interests inimical to Jews.

    Also, the interesting point that Jews have taken over the Establishment, which should have been enough for control (until recently). But now they’re having unforeseen trouble with the flood of digital information washing around their power structure, so they’re having to enlist the help of their allies at Facebook, Google etc.

    However, to really make this work, they need a US internet firewall (commercially bad for Facebook and Google), and they have to physically remove dissidents from society (not so easy). In other words they now need pure Totalitarianism – which is a whole different story – and it’s going to be obvious what’s happening to all the Rest of the World and even the dumbest Americans.

    But that doesn’t mean that they won’t do it.

    They’ll still go for it, because they have to, with some sort of manufactured Emergency, calling for a COG (Continuity of Government) Dictatorship. In fact, they’re probably working on it right now.

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    Carl Schmitt was the 'Crown Jurist" in Germany who 'justified' Hitler's assent to power, arguing that the response to the 'Reichstag Fire' required the utilization of "Emergency Powers" hence paving the way to dictatorship.

    It was Schmitt who influenced the "NeoCons" many of whom had studied with a philosophy professor Leo Strauss, whom was a devotee of Martin Heidegger, the existentialist philosopher who brought Schmitt into the Nazi Party. Strauss corresponded with Schmitt and was influenced by the example that takes a perversion of philosophy into the real political realm in order to excuse a power grab. It was Strauss who taught that philosophy contained inner secrets of interpretation that was taught only to a chosen elite, where the basis of that secret was that lies were permissible to that elite to serve the power needs of that elite.

    Thus 9/11 was the emergency used by, and created by, the Neoconservatives, for the rise to power utilizing 'Emergency Powers' for a dictatorship that would wage perpetual war, based on lies, to stay in power.

    Essays in this collection by LaRouchePac, 'The Children of Satan" goes into further detail on this, including the destruction of culture by the allied forces of these elites that run the 'entertainment industries' in part III of the Children of Satan. on the 'Congress for Cultural Freedom' project more properly referred to as in the publication as 'The Sexual Congress for Cultural Fascism"

    https://archive.larouchepac.com/files/child_satan_book_0.pdf

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  47. Biff says:

    Skip to the heart of the matter, and see the media for what it is – a monopoly. Then find out how a monopoly works, who owns them, why they are valuable(in this case very valuable), what motivates the owners(other than to get richer), and why competition is portrayed as evil?

    Then you can get to the crux of this stupid movie.

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  48. wayfarer says:

    “The demon is a liar. He will lie to confuse us; but he will also mix lies with the truth to attack us. His attack is psychological, Damien. And powerful.”
    – William Peter Blatty, The Exorcist

    “Almost all people are hypnotics. The proper authority saw to it that the proper belief should be induced, and the people believed properly.”
    – Charles Fort

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  49. Che Guava says:

    Wow, what pile-on of replies

    Most of what I may have been saying has been covered by others.

    To Sergey and Andrei,

    Not one among Dune, Foundation, and Star Wars is science fiction, they are all in the same sub-genre of fantasy called space opera.

    I agree that Dune is vastly superior to the other two, to Foundation in writing (Asimov’s writing is asinine or childish in fiction, overbearingly pompous in non-fiction), and to Star Wars both as a major influence and in terms of complexity.

    The post-Frank-Herbert Dune parodies by his son and the moron have a lot more in common with Transformers than Star Wars.

    I commend the article at the following link to all, it is by a Catholic bishop, don’t be frightened, no preaching, just an interesting perspective that I am sure the majority here would finding of interest.

    http://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/12/26/how-the-star-wars-franchise-lost-its-way/

    Finally, I like the Lynch ‘director’s cut’ of Dune, don’t remember the rain at the end, but the whole point of the Imperial biologist and Fremen connection was to see it rain there, which it indeed does in later volumes by Frank Herbert.

    Lynch was handed a mess, that F. Herbert was commending the result speaks volumes, even if Lynch says he himself doesn’t like it.

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  50. mp says:

    It’s not “Disney” that doesn’t like Whites, Paul. “Disney” is just a corporation. It’s the Jews at the top, along with their running dogs, that have a problem with White men. Remember that for the next article you write, so we won’t have to remind you.

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  51. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    When I was a little kid, my dad took me to see 2001, but it creeped me out . He then took me to watch Star Wars and I loved it!

    I did not make my father proud.

    When I was a little kid, my dad took me to see 2001, but it creeped me out . He then took me to watch Star Wars and I loved it!

    When I was a little kid (i.e. 8), my dad took me to see Star Wars. I didn’t understand the plot or motivations or even the rapid changes in scenery at all (basically the sand and huge machines careening and exploding is what remained) but Darth Vader traumatized me for weeks. Who WAS that demonic guy?

    I also remember je took me to see James Bond: Moonraker. The gratuitous off-handed killing traumatized me even more. (But I fell in love with Corinne Cléry)

    A year later he took me to see 2001, and I didn’t understand anything but it’s why I am interested in IT. Discovery is the immense achievement of bringing ORDER into the chaos of APEWORLD (though less than GODLIKE achievement as the play shows)

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  52. Rod1963 says:

    Disney killed the SW franchise. TLJ is it’s gravestone.

    Seriously it is. By getting rid of all the principal players – Luke and Han there is no reason for a most of the older fans to watch anymore sequels. They aren’t going to watch the ugly and sexless females, the surly black dude that has all the screen presence of asphalt. The younger white fans don’t want to watch a bunch of nasty females put down whites and put up with a real stupid story line.

    The white fans will be history and already are showing their displeasure by not viewing that steaming POS or buying the merchandise.

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  53. Renoman says:

    So they’re going down the tubes, who cares? No one with a brain pays for movies, music or TV shows any more, the tree is totally rotten, just look at the scum running it.

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  54. RBC says:

    Battlestar Galactica did similar things but was great. The difference between it and this dud movie was, among other things, was the way it integrated the sexes and the races in an organic way without demonizing any of them. (Even the cylons got a fair shake!)

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  55. Okechukwu says:

    Hehe. Another boycott, eh? Go ahead. Hollywood makes more money appealing to a normal, mainstream audience. They don’t care about your faux boycotts.

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    Normal, mainstream audiences explained:

    Plinkett saying smtg about Star Trek 2009:

    https://youtu.be/RiHnqv098LY?t=348
    , @Gleimhart
    No one said anything about a boycott. The movies are simply losing their audience, and hundreds of millions of dollars are being left on the table in the form of ticket sales and the licensing of merchandising, and merchandising is the more lucrative revenue stream by far.

    For example, when the (((J.J. Abrams))) version came out a few years ago, stores had to send back the junk with the black guy on it, because no one was buying it. The girl character did a little better, but none of them sold anywhere near the product that Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo, and Darth Vader did.

    If you think corporations don't care when they're not making nearly as much money as they could, then you don't know a bloody thing about corporations.

    Also, there's no such thing as a "normal, mainstream audience." That's precisely the sort of thing that goes bye-bye when diversity is the order of the day.
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  56. KenH says:

    Amazon is working on a LOTR series that occurs in a time frame before The Hobbit took place, so I assume it might be based on The Silmarillion. If they take cues from Disney then we’ll be treated to black wizards and elves, women warriors, maybe some homosexual characters, wicked white men from Gondor and chivalrous Orcs with English accents and perhaps some other SJW themes will be injected into the original story.

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    black wizards and elves
     
    I have seen everything, now I can die in peace.

    Would it be cultural misappropriation to pull in Hougans and Mambos if hailing frequencies to the etherworld need to be opened?

    (This reminds me that William Gibson somehow introduced Loas into his mid-00s writings, which somehow pretty cool)
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    For whatever reason Peter Jackson felt compelled to add completely out-of-place non-whites as residents of Lake Town in the Hobbit movies.
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  57. Che Guava says:

    Happy New Year, y’all!

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    2018, year of the “earth dog.”

    Let's hope it's a good one, for all.

    source: https://www.thechinesezodiac.org/horoscope-2018/

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  58. Apart from the obvious racial politics (I nonetheless enjoyed the movie, but I am a Star Wars fan), equally obvious is the intended parallel with the interwar period, with the Empire representing Wilhemite Germany and the First Order the Nazis. This would escape the vast majority of American viewers, of course, but I’m surprised no neocon reviewer has brought attention to it, with the usual recommendation: that failure of the New Republic to completely vanquish the Empire led to a continuation of hostilities. (FWIW, the Disney animated series Star Wars Rebel has an episode where the Empire exterminates the Geonossians by, you guessed it, poison gas.)

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    the Empire representing Wilhemite Germany
     
    Headscratch.

    How can the Empire represent Wilhemine Germany? There aren't even any Social Democrats, a non-absolutist Monarch or a Reichstag. Nor are there large rivals west and east of the Galaxy.

    Only neocons and ahistorical Hollywood writers can up with that kind of stuff.

    Nope, the Empire is an totalitarian structure lead by a Dark-Side Sorcerer who looks suspiciously Jewish, held together by fear of military power (mainly running on what could be considered Space Steampunk. Large cruisers / Ships of the line? Riding boots? Spik-and-Span militaristic drills? Guns that are being carried by hand?) One could write fun having sidestories about how the more fanatic elite revolutionary guards are playing political games against the old-school military types.


    failure of the New Republic to completely vanquish the Empire led to a continuation of hostilities.
     
    I wonder in what universe Wilhelmine Germany was not totally and completely vanquished. It was basically a Pinata, burnt down and being asked to hand out the gimmedats.

    Quick update: https://youtu.be/FTupV8o3mW4?t=5960

    , @Twodees Partain
    " This would escape the vast majority of American viewers"


    Yes, it would, mainly because it isn't there. This "obvious" parallel simply wouldn't occur to anyone who didn't go in search of it. I doubt that it was intended by the writers at all.
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  59. Joe Hide says:

    Here’s the reality of why the current crop of movies is losing at the box office. They are intensely
    NOT- entertaining. Why are they so mind-numbingly boring? How can studios stay in business while producing box office bombs? Because central banks, the deep state, and globalists give billions of dollars at almost zero percent interest loans to studios and their ultimate owners … and the tiny interest can be paid for with more loans, etc, etc, etc. This con / scam provides free money for the elitists agendas. The studios can then buy their own stock making it go up. The studios are thereby financially rewarded for producing box office bombs.

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    The movie industry doesn’t depend on the American box office at all. It makes it’s money in the international market.

    That’s hundreds of millions of low paid third world men who just love the special effects , cartoonish explosions, car chases and all the rest.

    Plus it’s an industry where everybody gets paid long before the movies are finished and on the market.
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  60. polskijoe says:

    Hollywood needs to be destroyed, before it causes more damage to young minds.
    Maybe 1/10 movies might be okay, but it ifs so low might as well get rid of it.

    Hollywood is basically largely a Jewish empire.

    Peter Myers has this quote:
    Some whites are now saying, if only we were more like the Jews, we’d be ok. The Jews are racist, so we should be racist and separatist like them. Wrong! The problem is in the mind, not the body.

    A lot of natoinalist minded people have allied themselves with Zionists (the National Conservative parties in Visegrad, a lot of the altlite/altright).

    When the counter culture revolution of the 1960s happened, Christianity was separated.
    And many whites lost themselves and now we are split. Are we Aryans? Christians? Both?

    White elites loved money and hence became dependant on Jews, who divided Europeans.

    You get the two sides Globalists (ally with money hungry, internationalists who want to destroy us in the name of “unity” with Jewish money, or Zionists with money, who want you to ally with them or they destroy you). Everyone is scrambling for the money.

    Mad times.

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  61. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH
    Amazon is working on a LOTR series that occurs in a time frame before The Hobbit took place, so I assume it might be based on The Silmarillion. If they take cues from Disney then we'll be treated to black wizards and elves, women warriors, maybe some homosexual characters, wicked white men from Gondor and chivalrous Orcs with English accents and perhaps some other SJW themes will be injected into the original story.

    black wizards and elves

    I have seen everything, now I can die in peace.

    Would it be cultural misappropriation to pull in Hougans and Mambos if hailing frequencies to the etherworld need to be opened?

    (This reminds me that William Gibson somehow introduced Loas into his mid-00s writings, which somehow pretty cool)

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  62. @KenH
    Amazon is working on a LOTR series that occurs in a time frame before The Hobbit took place, so I assume it might be based on The Silmarillion. If they take cues from Disney then we'll be treated to black wizards and elves, women warriors, maybe some homosexual characters, wicked white men from Gondor and chivalrous Orcs with English accents and perhaps some other SJW themes will be injected into the original story.

    For whatever reason Peter Jackson felt compelled to add completely out-of-place non-whites as residents of Lake Town in the Hobbit movies.

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    I remember Peter Jackson getting shamed and guilt tripped over the LOTR not having any of the requisite diversity (((Hollywood))) demands in movies. So in an apparent attempt to virtue signal and atone for this grievous infraction he threw in a couple of Negresses and Asians at Lake Town in The Hobbit trilogy, but they had no speaking part. However, they'll probably be the main characters when Disney purchases the rights and rolls out the remake in 2030.
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  63. @Miro23
    I don't know who Carl Schmitt was, but "No law exists outside the reality of power" surely explains what's going on. It's the capture of US centers of power by Jewish-Zionist activists enabling a race war against Anglo Americans.

    It’s as Carl Schmitt said of the nature of law and power. No law exists outside the reality of power. Basic laws are vaguely worded, and it is the Power that decides the meaning and force of those words. So, when Jews gained control of US culture and jurisprudence, the Constitution came to mean Open Borders, Diversity, Anti-White Dogma(to enforce white submissivism necessary to serve Jewish dominance), and ‘Gay Marriage’. Americanism and Constitutionalism were always shaped and determined by the Power. After all, what is Free Speech? Jews once used to say Free Speech means all speech, from far right to far left, should be free. Back then, Jews feared censorship of Jewish radicalism and pornography(big profits for Jews) by traditional Christian power. But once Jews gained supreme power in the US, they came to fear Free Speech as criticism of Jewish Power. Therefore, Jews redefined Free Speech as excluding ‘hate speech’. Since Jewish Power controls the meaning of ‘hate speech’, Zionist speech(that demeans Palestinians) is not ‘hate speech’, but BDS speech that calls for justice for Palestinians must be criminalized as ‘hate’. The Power decides what is ‘hate’, and that means Jewish elites with supreme power in the US get to denounce and suppress certain speech as ‘hateful’.
     
    Exactly right.

    But once Jews gained control of the Constitution, the US came to be all about ISRAEL FIRST, favoring Zionists over all other peoples(esp. the Palestinians), Open Borders Immigration to turn whites into a minority, and etc. The Constitution now serves the interests of Zionist-Supremacism. And since Jews have chosen Homomania as the proxy agent of Jewish Globalism, the Worship of Homos and Trannies has become the new Christianity or Queertianity. The Christian Church is like the Constitution. In the end, it will be what those in power say it’s about. The Power decides and molds & twists the presumed core principles to its will.
     
    And the best explanation ever of religion:

    In the end, the Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews? According to the original spirit of the Torah, God cannot be manifest in human form. And God’s Covenant is with Jews, not with all of humanity. But Christianity had Jesus as Son of God, a human figure walking among mankind. And Christianity said the new covenant is with all of humanity. In the end, it didn’t matter how much Jews protested. The fact is when the idea of God passed over to Christian and later Muslim gentiles, they changed or twisted the principles to serve their own interests and agendas. Jewish concept of God was limited only to spaces in which Jews had the power. In gentile spaces where Christians and Muslims had control over the idea of God, His meaning and design could be altered, even drastically, to serve interests inimical to Jews.
     
    Also, the interesting point that Jews have taken over the Establishment, which should have been enough for control (until recently). But now they're having unforeseen trouble with the flood of digital information washing around their power structure, so they're having to enlist the help of their allies at Facebook, Google etc.

    However, to really make this work, they need a US internet firewall (commercially bad for Facebook and Google), and they have to physically remove dissidents from society (not so easy). In other words they now need pure Totalitarianism - which is a whole different story - and it's going to be obvious what's happening to all the Rest of the World and even the dumbest Americans.

    But that doesn't mean that they won't do it.

    They'll still go for it, because they have to, with some sort of manufactured Emergency, calling for a COG (Continuity of Government) Dictatorship. In fact, they're probably working on it right now.

    Carl Schmitt was the ‘Crown Jurist” in Germany who ‘justified’ Hitler’s assent to power, arguing that the response to the ‘Reichstag Fire’ required the utilization of “Emergency Powers” hence paving the way to dictatorship.

    It was Schmitt who influenced the “NeoCons” many of whom had studied with a philosophy professor Leo Strauss, whom was a devotee of Martin Heidegger, the existentialist philosopher who brought Schmitt into the Nazi Party. Strauss corresponded with Schmitt and was influenced by the example that takes a perversion of philosophy into the real political realm in order to excuse a power grab. It was Strauss who taught that philosophy contained inner secrets of interpretation that was taught only to a chosen elite, where the basis of that secret was that lies were permissible to that elite to serve the power needs of that elite.

    Thus 9/11 was the emergency used by, and created by, the Neoconservatives, for the rise to power utilizing ‘Emergency Powers’ for a dictatorship that would wage perpetual war, based on lies, to stay in power.

    Essays in this collection by LaRouchePac, ‘The Children of Satan” goes into further detail on this, including the destruction of culture by the allied forces of these elites that run the ‘entertainment industries’ in part III of the Children of Satan. on the ‘Congress for Cultural Freedom’ project more properly referred to as in the publication as ‘The Sexual Congress for Cultural Fascism”

    https://archive.larouchepac.com/files/child_satan_book_0.pdf

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    Thus 9/11 was the emergency used by, and created by, the Neoconservatives, for the rise to power utilizing ‘Emergency Powers’ for a dictatorship that would wage perpetual war, based on lies, to stay in power.
     
    Exactly right - but it failed (on the domestic US side) and we are living in the messy aftermath. The Neocons planned to hold absolute power after 9/11.
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  64. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    I did not know Star wars was sci fi. Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially Foundation series. Star Wars original book is unreadable. Total garbage. I tried to read it long time ago without much success.

    Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially Foundation series.

    What about I Robot?

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  65. El Dato says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Apart from the obvious racial politics (I nonetheless enjoyed the movie, but I am a Star Wars fan), equally obvious is the intended parallel with the interwar period, with the Empire representing Wilhemite Germany and the First Order the Nazis. This would escape the vast majority of American viewers, of course, but I’m surprised no neocon reviewer has brought attention to it, with the usual recommendation: that failure of the New Republic to completely vanquish the Empire led to a continuation of hostilities. (FWIW, the Disney animated series Star Wars Rebel has an episode where the Empire exterminates the Geonossians by, you guessed it, poison gas.)

    the Empire representing Wilhemite Germany

    Headscratch.

    How can the Empire represent Wilhemine Germany? There aren’t even any Social Democrats, a non-absolutist Monarch or a Reichstag. Nor are there large rivals west and east of the Galaxy.

    Only neocons and ahistorical Hollywood writers can up with that kind of stuff.

    Nope, the Empire is an totalitarian structure lead by a Dark-Side Sorcerer who looks suspiciously Jewish, held together by fear of military power (mainly running on what could be considered Space Steampunk. Large cruisers / Ships of the line? Riding boots? Spik-and-Span militaristic drills? Guns that are being carried by hand?) One could write fun having sidestories about how the more fanatic elite revolutionary guards are playing political games against the old-school military types.

    failure of the New Republic to completely vanquish the Empire led to a continuation of hostilities.

    I wonder in what universe Wilhelmine Germany was not totally and completely vanquished. It was basically a Pinata, burnt down and being asked to hand out the gimmedats.

    Quick update:

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    Palpatine was a good deal harsher than the Kaiser, no doubt. But the Galactic Empire did feel the need to retain some trappings of the old Republic like the Senate, at least for administrative purposes. And there were prominent individuals (like Organa and his daughter) who had enough popular support that they could not be simply arrested without cause, even if they were regarded as unreliable. It was not until the Death Star was completed that the Empire could rule purely by terror, so they were not quite as totalitarian as assumed, though clearly brutal.

    At the end of the Galactic Civil War the Empire survived as a rump state with limitations on their ability to rearm, which they flouted. Lonely voices for action were ignored until the rise of the explicitly militaristic First Order. And this is precisely the neocon view of the interwar period: Versailles was too lenient, not too harsh, and paved the way to Munich.
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  66. delta says:

    There is a war going on against white male.
    I fly Delta constantly. So I am subjected to their commercials from the web site to promos to inflight stuff, etc…. The white male is now nonexistent, even though he forks the vast majority of business class seats, but cannot be featured on screen/photos at all.
    Cognitive dissonance they call it. It feels awful actually to be bombarded in EVERY commercial but “the black female” who appears sexy enough on screen, but is a crazy animal in real life.
    I may move to Argentina.

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  67. Figaro says:

    Disney doesn’t want whites? You mean whites aren’t allowed to buy tickets to see Disney movies? That’ll be the day.

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  68. wayfarer says:
    @Che Guava
    Happy New Year, y'all!

    2018, year of the “earth dog.”

    Let’s hope it’s a good one, for all.

    source: https://www.thechinesezodiac.org/horoscope-2018/

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    Good for you to knowing re five-elements combo.

    I am very dubious of these forms of divination, but the Chinese one has good symbolism in that nobody is living through the combination of animal and element at time of birth more than twice.

    In Japan, we also have a six-day cycle, and a system of unlucky years, among others, those mainly from elsewhere.

    Last night in Tokyo, clear sky and full moon on the night of New Year's Day, am thinking that is auspicious.

    However, almost no stars as always. Full moon + light pollution = even fewer visible stars and planets, even on a crystalline night.
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  69. El Dato says:
    @Okechukwu
    Hehe. Another boycott, eh? Go ahead. Hollywood makes more money appealing to a normal, mainstream audience. They don't care about your faux boycotts.

    Normal, mainstream audiences explained:

    Plinkett saying smtg about Star Trek 2009:

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  70. jeez, people actually talking shit about asimov.

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  71. wayfarer says:

    I moonlight as a part-time film critic.

    I haven’t seen the “Last Jedi.”

    But I’ve seen enough Hollywood films, to feel qualified to give this one, a thumbs down.

    Have a beautiful day.

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  72. Alden says:
    @El Dato
    Well, the desert visuals were kinda great and really stay with out for a long time but I just don't understand Lynch completely and lubelessly messing up the book. Already in the first scene we see the Emperor as under the heel of the Guild, a reveal that is completely pointless as nobody fights the Guild in the whole movie. In the book the Emperor is clearly in charge - balancing forces, but in charge. There is weird mumbo-jumbo being injected sideways, as if Twin Peaks had come through an interdimensional portal. Meatloaf is too horrific, Sting and Kyle are too old (both should be 16yo brats), Bene Gesserit witches should actually be good-looking (I'm talking long-haired anime girl good looking with the brains to go with it), the hairless cat idea was too bizarre, thumpers are too big, desert suits should be anything else but black and should have hoods, spice eyes should be completely blue, no white allowed, and in the end it rains (whut??) but Alia is cool.

    Star Wars is all about fast-paced hyperspace-enhanced swasbuckling whereas Dune is all about politics and control and religion and economic forces in temporary equilibrium. Tatooine is just some completely unimportant boondocks. Dune is the most important place of the empire, doubly so as it also reveals itself as the second super-soldier breeding ground. There is a claustrophobia in the fact only Guild heighliners can do interstellar travel. Even imperial and private military depend on them (please pay the reception and no going to Alderaan on a whim). The Guild even has the monopoly on weather sats around Dune which is why poor Vlad has no idea what's brewing the deep south (always a weird idea, why not launch a sat from Arrakeen, self-financed ... well, many of ideas do not make full sense. But it's all charming.

    I wonder what would have become of Jodorowsky's Dune, never seen the documentary. His 80s "Incal", drawn by Moebius is fun (don't bother getting the electronically "reedited/recolored" version, it's utter crap: http://funnybookbabylon.com/2008/10/20/re-coloring-moebius/ ) but after that he worked without Moebius and teamed up with Gimenez and other illustrators. He went "Freudian" to the point of being entirely unenjoyable: Rape, abasement, torture, slavery, incest, genocide, more rape, ultrakill, more abasement, atrocities of all kind. A power-duo with Lynch, maybe?

    I’ve read the first 2 Dune books several times and seen the movie.

    But I could never figure out exactly why spice was so valuable and what it was used for.

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    Spice prolonged life and intensified psychic abilities. It was necessary for the Mentats who performed a service called "folding space" (the Holtzman effect) which enabled multi-light year space trips in very little actual time.
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  73. Alden says:
    @Joe Hide
    Here's the reality of why the current crop of movies is losing at the box office. They are intensely
    NOT- entertaining. Why are they so mind-numbingly boring? How can studios stay in business while producing box office bombs? Because central banks, the deep state, and globalists give billions of dollars at almost zero percent interest loans to studios and their ultimate owners ... and the tiny interest can be paid for with more loans, etc, etc, etc. This con / scam provides free money for the elitists agendas. The studios can then buy their own stock making it go up. The studios are thereby financially rewarded for producing box office bombs.

    The movie industry doesn’t depend on the American box office at all. It makes it’s money in the international market.

    That’s hundreds of millions of low paid third world men who just love the special effects , cartoonish explosions, car chases and all the rest.

    Plus it’s an industry where everybody gets paid long before the movies are finished and on the market.

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    "The movie industry doesn’t depend on the American box office at all. It makes it’s money in the international market."

    Not really. The US is a critical market. Just because a movie makes lots of money overseas doesn't mean that it makes a lot of profit. If an expensive Western movie tanks in the North American market, there is a good chance that it will make little or no profit despite how it does overseas.

    Take the World of Warcraft movie; it tanked in the US but made $200M in China, so you'd think by looking at it that the studio would be rushing out a sequel. But they're not. Why? Because Chinese theatre chains take about 75% of the haul (compared with just 50% in the US), meaning that $200M is closer to $50M. Coupled with the fact that sequels have a tendency to make less and there is no profit to making an expensive CGI-laden sequel.
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  74. Gene Su says:

    I just won’t watch any more Star Wars flicks until they reinstate the expanded universe.

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  75. @El Dato

    the Empire representing Wilhemite Germany
     
    Headscratch.

    How can the Empire represent Wilhemine Germany? There aren't even any Social Democrats, a non-absolutist Monarch or a Reichstag. Nor are there large rivals west and east of the Galaxy.

    Only neocons and ahistorical Hollywood writers can up with that kind of stuff.

    Nope, the Empire is an totalitarian structure lead by a Dark-Side Sorcerer who looks suspiciously Jewish, held together by fear of military power (mainly running on what could be considered Space Steampunk. Large cruisers / Ships of the line? Riding boots? Spik-and-Span militaristic drills? Guns that are being carried by hand?) One could write fun having sidestories about how the more fanatic elite revolutionary guards are playing political games against the old-school military types.


    failure of the New Republic to completely vanquish the Empire led to a continuation of hostilities.
     
    I wonder in what universe Wilhelmine Germany was not totally and completely vanquished. It was basically a Pinata, burnt down and being asked to hand out the gimmedats.

    Quick update: https://youtu.be/FTupV8o3mW4?t=5960

    Palpatine was a good deal harsher than the Kaiser, no doubt. But the Galactic Empire did feel the need to retain some trappings of the old Republic like the Senate, at least for administrative purposes. And there were prominent individuals (like Organa and his daughter) who had enough popular support that they could not be simply arrested without cause, even if they were regarded as unreliable. It was not until the Death Star was completed that the Empire could rule purely by terror, so they were not quite as totalitarian as assumed, though clearly brutal.

    At the end of the Galactic Civil War the Empire survived as a rump state with limitations on their ability to rearm, which they flouted. Lonely voices for action were ignored until the rise of the explicitly militaristic First Order. And this is precisely the neocon view of the interwar period: Versailles was too lenient, not too harsh, and paved the way to Munich.

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    But the Galactic Empire did feel the need to retain some trappings of the old Republic like the Senate
     
    That's because it obviously was modelled on ancient Rome, not imperial Germany.
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  76. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor
    In a way, the New STAR WARS Makes Perfect Sense Given the Change in Ownership from George Lucas to Disney. Force reflects real power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtV2KTeR0o

    Richard Spencer in the video above complains about how the New STAR WARS doesn't respect or conform to the original vision created by George Lucas. And many others have lodged similar complaints. Across the political spectrum, many are not pleased with the new series and especially the new movie because it deviates from the original vision that they grew up with. Many adult audience members spent their formative yrs watching the original series, the first three released from 1977 to 1983 and the second trilogy from 1999 to 2005. So, they have a fixed idea of what STAR WARS universe and the Force are about. Therefore, when confronted with the revisions and narrative-thematic purging of the New Series, they are bewildered and even exasperated by Disney's lack of 'respect' for Lucas' original vision. (But do they ever ask why Lucas still deserves respect when he sold his baby to Disney for billions of shekels?)

    Now, the complainers have a point. The new series may well indeed violate the core principles of Lucas' original vision. It may go against the spirit of the original incarnation under Lucas' command. But they are overlooking certain key facts about the Way of Power in culture. What goes for Power goes for the Force. The Force in STAR WARS is whatever those with the possession of copyright say it is. The Force was what it was as long as Lucas had control over it. But with Jews at Disney now owning STAR WARS, the Force is whatever THEY make it out to be. It's as Carl Schmitt said of the nature of law and power. No law exists outside the reality of power. Basic laws are vaguely worded, and it is the Power that decides the meaning and force of those words. So, when Jews gained control of US culture and jurisprudence, the Constitution came to mean Open Borders, Diversity, Anti-White Dogma(to enforce white submissivism necessary to serve Jewish dominance), and 'Gay Marriage'. Americanism and Constitutionalism were always shaped and determined by the Power. After all, what is Free Speech? Jews once used to say Free Speech means all speech, from far right to far left, should be free.Back then, Jews feared censorship of Jewish radicalism and pornography(big profits for Jews) by traditional Christian power. But once Jews gained supreme power in the US, they came to fear Free Speech as criticism of Jewish Power. Therefore, Jews redefined Free Speech as excluding 'hate speech'. Since Jewish Power controls the meaning of 'hate speech', Zionist speech(that demeans Palestinians) is not 'hate speech', but BDS speech that calls for justice for Palestinians must be criminalized as 'hate'. The Power decides what is 'hate', and that means Jewish elites with supreme power in the US get to denounce and suppress certain speech as 'hateful'.

    What goes for Reality goes for Fantasy. The rules of fantasy will always be controlled by those with power over the fantasy. So, it doesn't matter what Lucas did with the original STAR WARS. It doesn't matter how the Force was manifested in the first six movies. The fact is the power of the Force has gone over to Jews at Disney, and that means Jews will alter the Force to suit their agendas and biases. It's simple as that. So, when Richard Spencer and others talk of STAR WARS as a universe existing independent of copyright ownership and moneyed control, they are being naive. They are presuming that there really is a Core Canonical Principles of the STAR WARS and the dynamics of the Force. No, such was all make-believe and can easily be altered based on whomever is now in control.
    Spencer has emphasized over and over how it's foolish to believe in Constitutionalism as a principle independent of power. He has castigated the so-called True Conservatives who claim to stand for abstract American Values of Liberty and Individualism. His point is that American Constitutionalism will always be determined by those with real power. The Constitution can be molded to mean just about anything. At one time, it even justified slavery and the ethnic cleansing of American Indians. And the 'internment' of the Japanese. And censorship of obscene material offensive to Christians. The Constitution allowed all such censorship and restrictions in the past because the White Christian Majority could will the Constitution to support and defend certain values and interests. But once Jews gained control of the Constitution, the US came to be all about ISRAEL FIRST, favoring Zionists over all other peoples(esp the Palestinians), Open Borders Immigration to turn whites into a minority, and etc. The Constitution now serves the interests of Zionist-Supremacism. And since Jews have chosen Homomania as the proxy agent of Jewish Globlaism, the Worship of Homos and Trannies has become the new christianity or Queertianity. The Christian Church is like the Constitution. In the end, it will be what those in power say it's about. The Power decides and molds & twists the presumed core principles to its will.

    If Spencer is so perceptive about the relation between Power and Laws, why is he so naive and earnest in his assessment of the new STAR WARS movie? He seems baffled as to why the new series violated and betrayed what STAR WARS is really supposed to be about. But his idea of 'real Star Wars' only applies to the franchise that was owned by Lucas. As long as Lucas had power over his baby, he could do as he pleased. But when he sold the Force to Disney, Jews had the power over the Force, and they could bend it to serve their own biases and agendas. It's like if you give your kid up for adoption, the adoptive parents can do whatever they want to with it. Jews can adopt a non-Jew and raise it as a Jew. And of course, the new STAR WARS reflects this reality. What are the agendas of Jewish globalists? It is white feminism. Jews use feminism or man-hate to drive a wedge between white men and white women. By thus setting white women against white men, white race is weakened, and it is easier for Jews to maintain control over white goyim. Jews also push race-mixing to destroy racial and ethnic identities. A people with confused identities are less likely to unite and rise up against the ruling elites. It is also a way to demoralize white males and destroy their pride. By especially promoting interracism between black males and white females, Jews send a message that black males are superior studs while white males are either dorky cucks or wussy homos. And the new STAR WARS is geared to turning its white heroine into a race-mixer. We see this all around in TV commercials, TV shows, and movies. Jews want to make the next James Bond black. Jews want to put the black male on the pedestal as the top alpha male who deserves to take white women. As for white males, they are either old farts who should die or dorky cucks who should delight in their own defeat and humiliation.

    Jews also push for massive 'immigration' to increase Diversity. Why do Jews do this? Jewish elites fear a homogeneous population that might unite against Jewish power. So, Jews seek to increase Diversity and set various goyim against one another. That way, the goyim won't be able to unite as one people against Jewish elites. And of course, the new STAR WARS is all about Diversity, a weapon of Jews against native populations of any nation. Meanwhile, virtually all the villains are white, especially white males.

    In the end, the Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews? According to the original spirit of the Torah, God cannot be manifest in human form. And God's Covenant is with Jews, not with all of humanity. But Christianity had Jesus as Son of God, a human figure walking among mankind. And Christianity said the new covenant is with all of humanity. In the end, it didn't matter how much Jews protested. The fact is when the idea of God passed over to Christian and later Muslim gentiles, they changed or twisted the principles to serve their own interests and agendas. Jewish concept of God was limited only to spaces in which Jews had the power. In gentile spaces where Christians and Muslims had control over the idea of God, His meaning and design could be altered, even drastically, to serve interests inimical to Jews.

    So, what happened to STAR WARS isn't much different from what happened to the concept of the Jewish God once its ownership passed over to gentiles. Via Christian conversion, many gentiles became believers in God, and this belief gave them ownership of the meaning of God. And in their self-interest, they altered and violated many principles so dear to Jews who had once held sole ownership of their God.
    Likewise, STAR WARS owned by Lucas and beloved by so many people had canonical value only as long as its ownership remained with those who remained loyal to the original vision. But once the ownership changed hands, the New Masters were bound to make the franchise serve their own biases and interests.
    This happens with every newspaper or magazine. It doesn't matter what its original masthead declaration of principles was. The new owners will bend the purpose to their own will. This is why The New Republic changed drastically when it was taken over by Neocons under the tutelage of Martin Peretz. And then, once ownership changed once more, it turned into just some homo-globalist hipster rag. Or consider Huffington Post. Despite its name, Ariana Huffington has nothing to do with the new incarnation, and it's changed considerably from what it had been under her control.

    If Alt Right has gained ownership of STARS WARS franchise, they would have made it serve its vision and interests. Richard Spencer as producer-director of STAR WARS would have made the Empire the good guys, and of course, many fans would have screamed Bloody Murder in protest. It's like Stanley Kubrick did his OWN thing with THE SHINING to the never-ending ire of Stephen King who felt Kubrick betrayed his core concept and meaning. But as King had sold movie rights to Kubrick, he was helpless to stop it.
    Indeed, if there is such a thing as Alt Right STAR WARS fanfiction, the narratives likely serve the biases of White Nationalism. But since Jews of Disney own STAR WARS, the franchise is now used to further the Jewish Supremacist agenda of globalism.

    Same thing happened with dialectical communism. The original theory by Karl Marx prophesied that conditions would worsen to the point where the working class would rise up to overthrow the bourgeoisie. Since the Proletariat was essential to this revolution, only an industrialized nation with a majority prole population could undergo the great tranformation. But when Lenin and Stalin took control of the theory, it was altered so that even a backward semi-industrial nation like Russia could have a communist revolution. Spontaneous uprising by the working class was no longer necessary. A radical vanguard with the support of secret police apparatus could pull it off. Later, Mao altered the meaning of Marxism even more by arguing that a communist revolution could happen with a peasant army. So, despite the original canonical meaning of Marxist theory, in the real world of actual practice, Marxism could be molded to be anything by the powers-that-be. If Maoism said Marxism could prevail in an agricultural society, that was the official lore of the land.And later, when reformers took control of China, communism could mean market economics. So, even as the Chinese Communist Party maintained the symbolism of Mao, the Red Flag, and revolutionary pageantry, the New Way was about buying-and-selling, trade with capitalist powers, and getting rich. Indeed, consider how Che Guevara became linked with capitalist pop culture and hedonism even though he hated Rock music, hippies, and materialism.

    So, if we apply Carl-Schmitt-ian analysis to the new STAR WARS, no one should be surprised that the new owners of the Force changed the meaning to suit their ethno-socio-economic purposes. No school of laws, no work of culture, and no set of principles exist in some pure form in a vacuum. They always exist in a world of people with competing interests and agendas. Indeed, even among Christians, different sects disagree on the meaning of Jesus. In many denominations today, homomaniacs have taken over and insist that the faith is about worshiping homos and trannies. And warmongering patriots believe that Christianity is about the flag and guns. So, expecting the STAR WARS universe to remain pristine or resist heretical ideas is wishful thinking. STAR WARS will be whatever those with ownership of it make it to be.
    It's like the Hagia Sophia Mosque in Istanbul. It was originally built as a Christian Cathedral, but Muslims altered the meaning. At one time, Ottoman Turks even altered the Parthenon to serve as a place of prayer for Muslims. But then, Christians had done the same to Pagan Temples. While Christians destroyed some pagan temples, they altered some to serve Jesus than the pagan gods. If we see STAR WARS as a kind of pop mythology or fanboy church, its core meaning will change to the tune of whoever has control over it. Consider the evolution of the Parthenon depending on who held power over Athens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGitmYl6U90

    Another complaint oft-heard from the detractors of the new series is that the nature of the Force has change considerably from the original series. They object to how the Force has become so easy with the young heroine. And Spencer wonders how someone with such humble background could have the Force. But, they are forgetting that George Lucas himself kept changing the nature of the Force. In PHANTOM MENACE, he altered the Force from some mysterious essence to something that can be medically detected in blood. And for those who have problems with the young heroine's humble background in the new series, the old series would have us believe that some slave woman could give a miracle virgin birth to some kid who, at the tender age of 7, can win a hyper-drive chariot race and man spaceships and blow up seasoned enemy pilots. So, if a 7 yr old squirt can do all that, is it really so strange to see a young heroine do 'badass' things?

    Also, if a female slave non-entity(in PHANTOM MENACE) could give a miracle birth to some kid with the Force, why is it so surprising that the heroine in the new series could have super-Force despite being born to humble parents? Besides, if the 20th century taught us anything, it was that those from the humblest backgrounds could become giants of history: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.

    As for the heroine's ease with mastering the Force, we need to understand that pop culture reflects the times. When Lucas made STAR WARS, power was still institutionalized. One had to go through the proper institutions/channels or gain access to big industries to be somebody. To be an influential journalist, one had to gain position at CBS or New York Times. To be an influential thinker, one had to have a position at Harvard or be promoted by top publishing companies and the media. To be a famous cultural celebrity, one had to be hired by TV, Hollywood, radio, or music industry. Even though there were alternative venues and underground artists, it was a tough climb to gain any kind of success, at least immediately. And Lucas struggled in this world. For him to gain access to film technology, he had to work hard and long and make the climb. To gain the Force, one had to go through the institutions controlled by high priests.

    But we now live in the internet age. Even a young person in a small town now has access to more news and information than New York Times did in the pre-internet age. When Lucas grew up, it was difficult to see foreign films. Only college towns and big cities showed them, and one had to wait long time to see certain movies. It was nearly impossible for anyone to see something when he wanted.
    Today, even someone living in the boonies can watch all sorts of movies from all parts of the world on the internet. Even a kid has more access to World Cinema than top film scholars did prior to the internet age.
    Also, even kids carry around smartphones that serve not only as phones but as internet screens, cameras, recording devices, and etc. It's like their light sabers.
    Thus, the Force has gone from institutional and individual in our world. Before the internet, someone like PewDiePie and Stefan Molyneux didn't have a chance at celebrity-hood. Institutions would not have given them the platform to express their views or pull their antics. But internet has been the great equalizer. Anyone can reach the world from inside their bedrooms. Some of these 'amateurs' have more fans and viewership than mainstream media do.
    So, the revision of the Force in the new series could very well reflect social change. Young people with interesting ideas, music, opinions, personalities, or shtick no longer have to make the Long March through the Institutions to say their say, gain a fanbase, develop a cult, and even become fabulously rich. Even demented Andrew Anglin has gained legendary anti-hero status because of the internet. Even with the attempts to shut down Daily Stormer, Anglin still has enough Troll Force to mess with the Narrative.

    Alt Right should know this since its rise owes so much to the internet, the great equalizer that has made it possible for oddballs like Mark Dice and Styxhexenhammer666 to get huge followings. This is why Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, and Google-Search are working in tandem with ADL to rig the game and ban certain voices deemed 'hateful', but the nature of the internet favors individuals over institutions. It has democratized the Force, for good or for ill.

    So, given all these changes and developments in society, is it any wonder that the nature of the Force has changed in the new series? Whereas Luke had to go through the institutions to gain his power, Rey doesn't. The Force has been digitalized and democratized.

    Internet and gadgets like smartphones have empowered individuals in ways that were unforeseeable when Lucas conceived STAR WARS. Just consider how the rise of high-tech allowed young ones to become overnight moguls and billionaires. Prior to the internet, could someone like Mark Zuckerberg become so rich so fast?

    Now, I'm not saying LAST JEDI is a good movie. I haven't seen it. I did see FORCE AWAKENS, and it was terrible. But, we should not be surprised that Force will change along with the change in ownership and will reflect social transformations all around us. In the end, most pop culture, even when set in the distant past or fantasy world, are more reflections of prevailing fashions and trends of the moment than works of purity remaining faithful to a set of core principles inside a bubble.

    Internet made even this young woman a celebrity and a known factor in culture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGEilqBNKwk

    So, what happened to STAR WARS isn’t much different from what happened to the concept of the Jewish God once its ownership passed over to gentiles. Via Christian conversion, many gentiles became believers in God, and this belief gave them ownership of the meaning of God. And in their self-interest, they altered and violated many principles so dear to Jews who had once held sole ownership of their God.

    Holding up the (Jewish) Disney corporation acquisition of (Gentile) George Lucas’s SW property as an example of the same process as the formation of the (Gentile) Christian heritage on the mouldering bones of the Hebraic (Jewish) tradition reads like a sort of Satanic inversion.

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    Holding up the (Jewish) Disney corporation acquisition of (Gentile) George Lucas’s SW property as an example of the same process as the formation of the (Gentile) Christian heritage on the mouldering bones of the Hebraic (Jewish) tradition reads like a sort of Satanic inversion.

    The new STAR WARS or STAR SCHWARZ made things much worse, but Lucas ruined it long long ago. He came up with a great vision but emotionally grew backward and made the Saga about nothing but toys, special effects, and pandering to kids. Despite their faults, STAR WARS and EMPIRE worked as storytelling and set up a great finale. Luke vs Darth. But RETURN OF JEDI was filled with fish-headed generals and jungle teddy bears. Also, Lucas had the tendency to combine naive infantilism with quasi-tendentious sermonizing. So, he said that Ewoks were like the Viet Cong because US, the great industrial power, was defeated by jungle warriors of Vietnam. But this is silly. The battle takes place in a single afternoon in RETURN and just a handful of Ewoks die. In contrast, Vietnam War lasted for 8 yrs(officially and unofficially even longer), and at least 2 million Viets died and many got wounded. Also, the viets were not a hunter-gatherer tribe with stone age weapons but armed and supplied by the OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL Power, the Soviets. But Lucas gave us teddy bears in space and then made some bogus pompous political statements, like he is Colonel Kurtz in APOCALYPSE NOW or something. It was funny seeing a man getting sillier and more serious at the same time. And the whole STAR WARS is like that. In some ways, it gets darker and more 'complicated'. We discover Darth is really pa of Luke, and Luke is tempted to the Dark Side. And the prequels say something about how democracy can turn into tyranny. And yet, at the center of the narrative is just a lot of hokum and kiddie stuff. STAR WARS could have been EXCALIBUR IN SPACE but it just became a big pinball machine.

    That STAR WARS got Jewishized into STAR SCHWARZ is interesting given that the core inspiration of the STAR WARS universe is pagan. Even though Lucas drew some ideas from the Bible and Judeo-Christian tradition, it owes more to paganism of Greco-Roman mythology, Germanic mythology, Japanese samurai cult & Kurosawa films, Arthurian legends, the Western, and 20th century Fascist-Nazi aesthetics. It was about the brotherhood of knighthood, the cult of the warrior.
    And of course, STAR SCHWARZ continues in that vein. It still owes more to paganist inspirations than anything in the Bible. And yet, why is it Jewishy? Because there are many aspects to Jewishness. There is core Jewishness of religion and heritage. But there is also the Pawnbroker Jewishness, the art of merchantry where Jews take control of pagan/gentile icons & idols and use/exploit them to serve the Jewish agenda. It's like a Jewish pawnbroker wasn't a collector of only Jewish stuff. He gained ownership of tons of goy, pagan, gentile stuff. He used them for profits or props to push Jewish interests.
    In our world, Jews promote Diversity and Interracism on whites. Diversity weakens white unity and white power. Interracism destroys white male pride, thus whites become cucked. So, even though STAR SCHWARZ is still paganist, those paganist altars have been altered to favor the political and ideological agenda of Jewish Globalist Power. This is also true of homomania. The history of homo cult is paganist. It was biggest among pagan Greeks and decadent Romans. And some pagan tribes were tolerant of homo stuff. Samurai could bugger one another sometimes. In contrast, Jewish history was anti-homo. So, how did Jews, even religious Jews, become such promoters of Homomania? Because this paganism can be used by Jews to weaken gentiles. By promoting Homos as wonderful elites, society normalizes the notion of the minority ruling elite. Also, by weakening the moral core of Christians by making churches adopt homomania, Christians no longer have true moral pride. Any people who worship homo fecal penetration as holy cannot be truly moral. They are degenerates whose moral righteousness depends on hype, hysteria, and propaganda than moral depth or meaning.

    Jews tend to be monomaniacal and seek world dominance, and there have been three ways of going about achieving this. (1) Sticking to Jewish tradition and the Covenant. Keeping strict barriers between holy Jews and filthy goyim. This school of thought said if Jews remain clean and serve God, God will take care of things and favor Jews, and Jews will inherit the earth. (2) Creating a new universal idea(as outgrowth of tribal Jewishness) and spreading that idea to destroy all other ideas. Christianity and Communism were such Jewish ideas. The ideal of Christianity that began as Jewish heresy is to convert the whole world to Jesus and to destroy all other ideas. Paganisms of all kinds must be destroyed. Non-believers are heathens and must be converted or condemned. Communism was a secular kind of Christianity. Supposedly, Marx figured everything out, and only communism was the truth, and all other ideas had to be destroyed or exterminated. The whole world must be made communist. One idea for all mankind.

    The problem of (1) was that extreme tribalism didn't do much for Jews in terms of power. NO matter how pure they were remained in blood and no matter how much they remained faithful to God, Jews didn't inherit the world. As for (2), even though those ideas began as Jewish ideas, gentiles eventually took control of them, and Jews got burned. Christians began to persecute Jews. And communism eventually suppressed Jewish identity. And then, even Jewish communists came to be suspected and marginalized as untrustworthy.

    But there was (3) way. By this way, Jews would accept the existence of pagan/gentile ideas. Jews would accept the poly-ideastic way of the world. Unlike (1) Jews, the (3) Jews would extensively engage with the gentile world. But unlike (2) Jews, they would not try to conquer the world with one idea, like Christianity or Communism. Rather, they would allow various ideas/interests to exist BUT have those ideas/interests serve the Higher and Greater ideas/interests of Jews. It's like the Roman Empire. It allowed non-Romans to keep their cultures and etc. But the Empire also insisted that non-Romans all serve Roman agendas and interests in the end. Instead of universalism where everyone has the same ideas, icons, and idols, it'd be a poly-versal empire where various peoples would stick to their ideas, icons, and idols that, however, would be manipulated to serve the Higher Idea. So, Jews adopted a kind of neo-paganism for their own purposes. In pagan cosmology, there are various gods, but there is also the top god, and the lower gods serve the top god. Jewish manipulation of neo-paganism had non-Jews as lesser gods serving Jews as the top gods. This way, pagans/gentiles could have their own identities and cultures... but they would ultimately bow down to the higher identity and culture of Jews.

    And we see this with how STAR WARS became STAR SCHWARZ. It is still very pagan and steeped in the Carl-Jung-Joseph-Campbell thing, but it now favors feminism, jungle fever, Diversity, and etc to occupy what were essentially roles defined by European pagans. But we see the same thing with BBC. British and European histories are retconned to push the Jewish agenda of Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs with Jungle Fever for white women and cuckery for white men. Hollywood Jews said the next James Bond will be a Negro.
    The great western heroes, Lancelot and Achilles, have been made black in BBC and TV shows. So, even as Jews maintain the pagan idols, they change the cast to push the Jewish agenda of perpetuating white submissivism so that whites will forever lose white pride and identity. A people without pride become mental slaves and serve OTHER peoples.

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bXWv5Is_X9Q/WklRiiULqWI/AAAAAAAABzs/0rRGyUooP3QkTDGQdIKAoRbNVGmYgtUmQCLcBGAs/s1600/DSU_1m1X4AECoJE.jpg

    Communism and Christianity(and Islam) were mono-imperial systems. Ideally, all of humanity should come under the One True Idea, and all men must struggle for the exact same principles and goals. Both have roots in Jewish culture because Jews developed the notion of the One God and One Truth, with all other gods deserving to be either holocausted or denied their validity/existence.

    In contrast, there was the poly-imperial systems. It attempted to conquer as many lands and people as possible. But it didn't believe there was one true idea for all. It was more about power and control than conversion. So, other peoples, the conquered subjects, could believe in their own gods, stick with their own traditions/values, and worship their own idols. However, they had to accept the Imperial Rulers as the top power. They had to pay taxes to the top power. They had to bow down to the military might of the top power. Romans were like this,and the Romans managed well with most pagan folks. But they had the most problem with Jews because, unlike pagans, Jews believed their God was the only true God. So, Romans had the stronger military and greater material power, but Jews had the stronger idea, greater spiritual might, and farther-reaching prophetic vision. Romans could win with arms, but Jews could win with vision. But to win, Jews had to develop an idea that could win over the hearts of gentiles/pagans. And that was Christianity. In a way, the spread of Christianity was a great triumph of the Jewish idea over gentiles. But because most Jews didn't take to the new faith and stuck with their own original concept, the Jewish Heresy turned on them. So, Christianity was both the biggest triumph and tragedy for Jews. Communism would turn out similarly. Jews won big and lost big with it.

    So, what is the best way for Jews to win? Self-enclosed tribalism won't get anywhere. Jews must engage with the whole world that is goyim. Should Jews come up with a universal idea for all mankind? But then, gentiles will eventually come to own the idea and use it for their own interests, and this might hurt Jews.
    Given those odds, the best way is for Jews to make peace with gentile ideas, icons, and interests but find some way to make them serve Jewish identity, ideas, and interests as the highest and greatest there is. It's like how Jews work with Evangelicals. Jews are okay with the born-again folks worshiping Jesus and etc, BUT much of Evangelicalism is now 'muh Israel, muh Israel, muh Israel'. Jews work well with Mormons, but Mormons are all about 'muh Israel, muh Israel, muh Israel'. So, Jews are okay with Mormons being Mormons BUT Mormons better still put Jewish interests above Mormon interests. It's like Romans were okay with Syrians and Britons, but those conquered folks still had to obey Roman power before their own. Even as Romans didn't erase other people's cultures and idols, those had to be made subservient to Roman culture and idols as the highest there are.
    And modern Jews adopted this, esp from Anglos, the modern folks who come closest to being like the Romans of old. So, the US is now about diversity and how different folks can have their own cultures, identities, and narratives... BUT they better put 'muh Israel' before anything. Jews don't have to attend meetings for Russian, Iranian, Chinese, Mexican, African, etc interests BUT all gentile politicians have to attend AIPAC to praise 'muh Israel'. Look at that whore Nikki Haley, the semi-person-of-dot.

    The COEN movie HAIL CAESAR offers a useful glimpse into this Jewish agenda. Like some other Coen movies, it is pretty mocking of Christianity as a religion that controls the goyim. Even though goyim have used Christianity to oppress Jews, it also tames goyim and turns them into saps who can be manipulated by Jews.
    Some people think Coens are respectful of Christianity. They are not. What they are interested in is the psycho-politics of Christianity, and in this, they share something with Steven Spielberg who has adopted Catholicist and Evangelical tropes to push his vision of Pop Jewishism on the world.

    In a scene in HAIL CAESAR we see a Rabbi who is offended by what Christian clergy has to say. Even though Jews have been anti-Christian, there's a kind of paradox. Jews have been so anti-Christian because they are so Christoid, conviction that Jewish individuals could become like Christ. The main problem that Jews have with Christianity is it deified the prophet and messiah into Son of God or even God. The Jewish idea of the Messiah was a great prophet, warrior, messenger. Jews never conceived of messiah as God or even Son of God. Jewish concept of the messiah is empowering because the messiah is a prophet, and a man can be a prophet. So, by the Jewish concept of the messiah, any Jewish man can, at least theoretically, be a messiah since he could be the great prophet. In contrast, Christianity says the messiah is not a prophet but the Son of God or God Himself. And that means there is no more Future. The Truth has been revealed through Jesus the Son of God, and humanity has no more need for prophets. After Jesus, there can only be saints. Saints are different from prophets. Saints don't have the great vision. They just have the pure faith in God and Jesus. Their duty is to be angelic and devoted. They are not seers of the Future since the Truth has already been revealed. Thus, Christianity destroyed the prophetic tradition. It allowed for many saints but no prophets. In contrast, Jews never gave up on the notion of the prophet. Since the messiah has yet to come and since a man can be a prophet and since a prophet can be the messiah, any Jewish man can, at least theoretically, be the prophet-messiah.

    In some ways, Christianity is more hubristic than Judaism, but in some ways, it is more humble. It is more hubristic in the notion that a Man who walks on Earth can be the Son of God, even God. To Jews, this was pure blasphemy, an affront to God.
    And yet, precisely because Jesus wasn't just a great prophet but Son of God or God as the Messiah, no other man can ever come anywhere near Him or be like Him. He is the ONLY Man who could be the Messiah since Christianity says Messiah = Son of God = God.

    In contrast, Judaism can be said to be more humble because it says no man can be the Son of God or God. God is too great and doesn't manifest Himself in human form. And yet, because the Jewish concept of the Messiah is a prophet, any Jew could conceivably be him. Granted, the Messiah could be like an angel sent from Heaven. Even so, he is still not Son of God or God. He is still closer to man if not a man. Since Jews defined the Messiah in this manner, each Jew is instilled with propheticism which is far more ambitious and egoistic than sainthood, which is about devotion and faith. A prophet is humble before God but confident of his vision as the messenger of God. In contrast, a saint is not about the power of mind and vision but goodness of the heart and faith. It's a bit sappy.

    In the conference with rabbi and Christian clergy in HAIL CAESAR, the rabbi says God cannot be shown in Jewish culture. And in the movie, we are not shown the face of Jesus in the movie-within-the-movie. But we see a lot of the Roman soldier. And we see the shabbos goy gentile studio boss, but we are never shown his Jewish boss Schenk who is like a godly presence. Both the Roman soldier(George Clooney) and the goy studio boss have two modes of behavior: soldier and saint. As soldier, he is rough and aggressive. But when faced with the greater prophetic power of Jesus, he goes into saint mode with sappy face. And the goy studio boss is the same way. He can be tough and push actors around. He whips the crew to get the job done. He is warrior-like in that mode. But he is deeply respectful to his boss Schenk who is like a divine prophet to him.(Schenk is like the Jewish prophet of capitalism; Marcuse is like Jewish prophet of communism; Hollywood is divided between two modes.) Schenk apparently has the vision whereas his shabbos goy underling can manage things but lacks the big vision. After all, Jews invented Hollywood, the empire of dreams where gentile-pagan idols and icons came to be reshaped to serve the Jewish Empire.

    HAIL CAESAR is a rather confused movie because its allusions are often double-or-triple-in-meaning. There is Scarlett Johansson as Rhinemaiden of Wagner's mythology. But she is swallowed up by what? Whale that swallowed Jonah? This Jewish whale also swallows the gold and then its blowhole ejaculates like Harvey Weinstein's pud. But later, this woman is like a perverse allusion to the Madonna. She is pregnant with a child from a uncertain father and she ends up marrying a guy named Joe, like Mary was married to Joseph. So,a character is alluded to both Germanic mythology and the Biblical story. Weird. And later a Soviet submarine emerges like the whale. I guess Sovietism is like the other Jewish creation. Whale of communism vs Whale of capitalism, both trying to devour the wealth of the world as a good or an evil. But the guy loses the money in the water cuz of the dog(like the dog that messed up the heist in THE KILLING by Kubrick). It's a very confused movie, but also a very inspired and interesting one. I can understand why it flopped at the box office. Though a comedy, there's a lot more going on there which is esoteric.

    Anyway, the movie is onto something. We tend to see history in terms of Jews vs Christianity but it's more like Future Christoidism vs Been-there-done-there-Christianism.
    Christianity says the Christ was among us, and He was Son of God, thus God, and we all need to be saints with sappy faces like when George Clooney looks at Jesus who offers him water.
    In contrast, Jews believe the Future is filled with new christoids with prophetic vision. Jews accept Jesus as prophet but not messiah. So, Christ was only a prophet, and that means there can be future christs or christoids... like Marx, Rand, Marcuse, etc. And the 20th century has been filled with Jewish prophets and would-be prophets. And this has been a source of great power for Jews. In the end, the stronger idea gains dominance over weaker ones. And the fact is the prophet is more powerful than the saint. Saint is a pawn on the chess board whereas the prophet is the rook or queen. Saint blindly and sappily serves and obeys the king. The queen and rook serve the king too but have their own agency and greater reach in movement.

    Because Jews are still in prophetic mode whereas Christians are in saint mode, the globalist empire has the weaker saintly ideas of gentiles serving the stronger prophetic ideas of Jews.
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  77. @Beefcake the Mighty
    Palpatine was a good deal harsher than the Kaiser, no doubt. But the Galactic Empire did feel the need to retain some trappings of the old Republic like the Senate, at least for administrative purposes. And there were prominent individuals (like Organa and his daughter) who had enough popular support that they could not be simply arrested without cause, even if they were regarded as unreliable. It was not until the Death Star was completed that the Empire could rule purely by terror, so they were not quite as totalitarian as assumed, though clearly brutal.

    At the end of the Galactic Civil War the Empire survived as a rump state with limitations on their ability to rearm, which they flouted. Lonely voices for action were ignored until the rise of the explicitly militaristic First Order. And this is precisely the neocon view of the interwar period: Versailles was too lenient, not too harsh, and paved the way to Munich.

    But the Galactic Empire did feel the need to retain some trappings of the old Republic like the Senate

    That’s because it obviously was modelled on ancient Rome, not imperial Germany.

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    Fair enough, it’s not a perfect parallel. But the resolution of the Civil War seems clearly patterned after Versailles.
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  78. I can’t claim to have ever really liked Star Wars. In retrospect, the only thing good about the original trilogy was the time of my life it came out in. I was a kid then, and happier. That’s about it.

    But I remember being very strongly affected by David Lynch’s Dune. I first saw it when I was about 7 years old, I think, one evening when my parents and a whole entourage from our church were meeting in the home of some associates of theirs in a neighboring city (I recall the drive there and back being interminable).

    I was running around outside, doing damage and getting into trouble as usual, so after the perfunctory beatings from my father, his more enlightened, upper class hosts decided to sit me down with a good movie to keep me occupied.

    That movie happened to be Dune. I don’t know if they owned it or if it was being shown on cable or what, but it was the Alan Smithee cut, the full 3-hour extravaganza. Now, we didn’t have a television in our house when I was a kid, so just getting to watch a movie was something of a treat in itself. But getting to watch Dune at just that particular time in my life under just those circumstances was nothing short of a divine gift. More than the story itself (which I admittedly was unable to follow at that young age) was the general atmosphere, that curious mix of science, philosophy, and mysticism which seemed to hold endless wonders and conceal endless secrets. It resonated with me very profoundly.

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    Quite. It seems to be the desert that gives rise to mysticism in general. Hey we got a couple of testaments and Castaneda's Peyotle-fuelled trips from it.

    Moebius on his desert experiences:

    https://youtu.be/jNas99oEXBU?t=435

    I first saw it when I was about 7 years old, I think
     
    This is mental abuse of minors.

    At 15, the Lnychian Baron's sad predilection for screaming, power play, terror, blood and getting off at snuffing boys was enough for a couple of months.


    Also:

    David Lynch’s Dune is What You Get When You Build a Science Fictional World With No Interest in Science Fiction

    In the distilling of the plot, every other branch of the story becomes superfluous—and many of the characters do too. This results in the Harkonnens doing nothing in the film besides being despicable to the grandest extremes Lynch can summon. Forget any semblance of intelligence and scheming, the Baron Harkonnen has been reduced to a rabid dog of a man who screams and spins and bounces to and fro like a punctured balloon. The movie also has the distinction of branding the character in an explicitly homophobic light by heightening the Baron’s actions and displaying them all at once: in a single scene we watch the man have his facial sores drained by a doctor (which gay writer Dennis Altman has pointed out appears to be part of the pervasive AIDS imagery that suffused pop culture in the 80s) before abruptly sexually assaulting and brutally murdering a young male servant, bleeding him out while his relatives observe. The choice to connect these moments visually in one savage blow cannot be overlooked or underestimated… particularly when the very next scene shows a flash of Lady Jessica and Duke Leto making love. It is a very literal Point-A-to-Point-B association of homosexuality with perversion, violence, and sickness, contrasted immediately with heterosexuality signifying loving, caring bonds and relationships.
     
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  79. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Owen
    I've not seen Star Wars but I did see the Lone Ranger and I was astonished that there was not one sympathetic white male character in the story. I assumed that it was made for a Chinese audience. Would this be the case for the modern SW?

    “I’ve not seen Star Wars but I did see the Lone Ranger and I was astonished that there was not one sympathetic white male character in the story. ”

    Probably why that movie tanked and was a huge disaster. Also, Chinese theaters take about 75% of the box office, so it doesn’t make economic sense for American companies to make movies specifically for that audience. It looks like Hollywood has forgotten its core audience in an effort to get a new one, kinda like they did with Ghostbusters 2016.

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  80. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    These SJW Star Wars movies may end up killing Disney in the long run. They spent billions getting the rights, which means they must make billions in PROFIT. However, that may be easier said than done:

    1. The new toys/merchandise doesn’t sell very well.

    2. The latest SJW SW movie has reportedly tanked in critical Asian markets, for obvious reasons.

    3. These movies are very expensive to make and then market (double the production budget to get a rough estimate).

    4. Theater haul is NOT profit for the studio. American theater take is about 50% and overseas theaters take 60-75% – Chinese theaters take roughly 75%.

    5. These movies now seem to be in a diminishing returns phase, with the latest SJW SW movie being off by $175 million from the last one.

    Let’s do a rough calculation.

    Assume a $300 million production & marketing budget for this movie.

    Assume it makes $1 billion box office globally.

    $600M US – $300 budget = $300 M

    x 0.5 = $150M US profit.

    $400M overseas (generous, I think) x 0.33 (also generous due to the size of the Chinese market) = $132M

    Total = $282M profit

    Assuming Disney spent $2 billion on rights acquisition, someone could be in a lot of trouble over a Disney 10 years from now, especially since these movies are now at a diminishing returns stage. They will have to crank out a lot of successful movies to make up the difference.

    The correct thing to have done here was to go all out appealing to the white male demographic followed by token presence of the others (give a good love story for the white females and lots of action for the Hispanic male audience). It wasn’t to turn this property over to a group of feminist liberals who don’t know that market. It wasn’t to give troll feed to talentless SJW movie critics who couldn’t hack it the industry as creators and now spend thousands of words attacking 62% of your movie going demographic.

    I can guarantee somebody ain’t sleeping well over at Disney. Could that be the reason we’re getting a Han Solo spinoff? They need LOTS of movies. Could that be the reason they are rushing to get JJ back?

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  81. @Beefcake the Mighty
    Apart from the obvious racial politics (I nonetheless enjoyed the movie, but I am a Star Wars fan), equally obvious is the intended parallel with the interwar period, with the Empire representing Wilhemite Germany and the First Order the Nazis. This would escape the vast majority of American viewers, of course, but I’m surprised no neocon reviewer has brought attention to it, with the usual recommendation: that failure of the New Republic to completely vanquish the Empire led to a continuation of hostilities. (FWIW, the Disney animated series Star Wars Rebel has an episode where the Empire exterminates the Geonossians by, you guessed it, poison gas.)

    ” This would escape the vast majority of American viewers”

    Yes, it would, mainly because it isn’t there. This “obvious” parallel simply wouldn’t occur to anyone who didn’t go in search of it. I doubt that it was intended by the writers at all.

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  82. @Alden
    I’ve read the first 2 Dune books several times and seen the movie.

    But I could never figure out exactly why spice was so valuable and what it was used for.

    Spice prolonged life and intensified psychic abilities. It was necessary for the Mentats who performed a service called “folding space” (the Holtzman effect) which enabled multi-light year space trips in very little actual time.

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    Thanks.
    , @Lana Kane
    "Spice prolonged life and intensified psychic abilities. It was necessary for the Mentats who performed a service called “folding space” (the Holtzman effect) which enabled multi-light year space trips in very little actual time."

    The Guild Navigators (seriously mutated humans) performed the foldspace navigation schtick, and spice was the key to their talent; the mentats were human calculators that performed the functions of (outlawed) electronic computers. I don`t recall that spice was necessary for them to do that, in fact I think Herbert`s main theme in Dune is that humans have vast untapped mental and physical potential that can be released through proper training and the therapeutic use of psychedelic drugs (definitely a reflection of the times in which he was writing; late 60s through the early eighties).

    It`s so sad that I know all of that.
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  83. KenH says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    For whatever reason Peter Jackson felt compelled to add completely out-of-place non-whites as residents of Lake Town in the Hobbit movies.

    I remember Peter Jackson getting shamed and guilt tripped over the LOTR not having any of the requisite diversity (((Hollywood))) demands in movies. So in an apparent attempt to virtue signal and atone for this grievous infraction he threw in a couple of Negresses and Asians at Lake Town in The Hobbit trilogy, but they had no speaking part. However, they’ll probably be the main characters when Disney purchases the rights and rolls out the remake in 2030.

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    So, what happened to STAR WARS isn’t much different from what happened to the concept of the Jewish God once its ownership passed over to gentiles. Via Christian conversion, many gentiles became believers in God, and this belief gave them ownership of the meaning of God. And in their self-interest, they altered and violated many principles so dear to Jews who had once held sole ownership of their God.
     
    Holding up the (Jewish) Disney corporation acquisition of (Gentile) George Lucas's SW property as an example of the same process as the formation of the (Gentile) Christian heritage on the mouldering bones of the Hebraic (Jewish) tradition reads like a sort of Satanic inversion.

    Holding up the (Jewish) Disney corporation acquisition of (Gentile) George Lucas’s SW property as an example of the same process as the formation of the (Gentile) Christian heritage on the mouldering bones of the Hebraic (Jewish) tradition reads like a sort of Satanic inversion.

    The new STAR WARS or STAR SCHWARZ made things much worse, but Lucas ruined it long long ago. He came up with a great vision but emotionally grew backward and made the Saga about nothing but toys, special effects, and pandering to kids. Despite their faults, STAR WARS and EMPIRE worked as storytelling and set up a great finale. Luke vs Darth. But RETURN OF JEDI was filled with fish-headed generals and jungle teddy bears. Also, Lucas had the tendency to combine naive infantilism with quasi-tendentious sermonizing. So, he said that Ewoks were like the Viet Cong because US, the great industrial power, was defeated by jungle warriors of Vietnam. But this is silly. The battle takes place in a single afternoon in RETURN and just a handful of Ewoks die. In contrast, Vietnam War lasted for 8 yrs(officially and unofficially even longer), and at least 2 million Viets died and many got wounded. Also, the viets were not a hunter-gatherer tribe with stone age weapons but armed and supplied by the OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL Power, the Soviets. But Lucas gave us teddy bears in space and then made some bogus pompous political statements, like he is Colonel Kurtz in APOCALYPSE NOW or something. It was funny seeing a man getting sillier and more serious at the same time. And the whole STAR WARS is like that. In some ways, it gets darker and more ‘complicated’. We discover Darth is really pa of Luke, and Luke is tempted to the Dark Side. And the prequels say something about how democracy can turn into tyranny. And yet, at the center of the narrative is just a lot of hokum and kiddie stuff. STAR WARS could have been EXCALIBUR IN SPACE but it just became a big pinball machine.

    That STAR WARS got Jewishized into STAR SCHWARZ is interesting given that the core inspiration of the STAR WARS universe is pagan. Even though Lucas drew some ideas from the Bible and Judeo-Christian tradition, it owes more to paganism of Greco-Roman mythology, Germanic mythology, Japanese samurai cult & Kurosawa films, Arthurian legends, the Western, and 20th century Fascist-Nazi aesthetics. It was about the brotherhood of knighthood, the cult of the warrior.
    And of course, STAR SCHWARZ continues in that vein. It still owes more to paganist inspirations than anything in the Bible. And yet, why is it Jewishy? Because there are many aspects to Jewishness. There is core Jewishness of religion and heritage. But there is also the Pawnbroker Jewishness, the art of merchantry where Jews take control of pagan/gentile icons & idols and use/exploit them to serve the Jewish agenda. It’s like a Jewish pawnbroker wasn’t a collector of only Jewish stuff. He gained ownership of tons of goy, pagan, gentile stuff. He used them for profits or props to push Jewish interests.
    In our world, Jews promote Diversity and Interracism on whites. Diversity weakens white unity and white power. Interracism destroys white male pride, thus whites become cucked. So, even though STAR SCHWARZ is still paganist, those paganist altars have been altered to favor the political and ideological agenda of Jewish Globalist Power. This is also true of homomania. The history of homo cult is paganist. It was biggest among pagan Greeks and decadent Romans. And some pagan tribes were tolerant of homo stuff. Samurai could bugger one another sometimes. In contrast, Jewish history was anti-homo. So, how did Jews, even religious Jews, become such promoters of Homomania? Because this paganism can be used by Jews to weaken gentiles. By promoting Homos as wonderful elites, society normalizes the notion of the minority ruling elite. Also, by weakening the moral core of Christians by making churches adopt homomania, Christians no longer have true moral pride. Any people who worship homo fecal penetration as holy cannot be truly moral. They are degenerates whose moral righteousness depends on hype, hysteria, and propaganda than moral depth or meaning.

    Jews tend to be monomaniacal and seek world dominance, and there have been three ways of going about achieving this. (1) Sticking to Jewish tradition and the Covenant. Keeping strict barriers between holy Jews and filthy goyim. This school of thought said if Jews remain clean and serve God, God will take care of things and favor Jews, and Jews will inherit the earth. (2) Creating a new universal idea(as outgrowth of tribal Jewishness) and spreading that idea to destroy all other ideas. Christianity and Communism were such Jewish ideas. The ideal of Christianity that began as Jewish heresy is to convert the whole world to Jesus and to destroy all other ideas. Paganisms of all kinds must be destroyed. Non-believers are heathens and must be converted or condemned. Communism was a secular kind of Christianity. Supposedly, Marx figured everything out, and only communism was the truth, and all other ideas had to be destroyed or exterminated. The whole world must be made communist. One idea for all mankind.

    The problem of (1) was that extreme tribalism didn’t do much for Jews in terms of power. NO matter how pure they were remained in blood and no matter how much they remained faithful to God, Jews didn’t inherit the world. As for (2), even though those ideas began as Jewish ideas, gentiles eventually took control of them, and Jews got burned. Christians began to persecute Jews. And communism eventually suppressed Jewish identity. And then, even Jewish communists came to be suspected and marginalized as untrustworthy.

    But there was (3) way. By this way, Jews would accept the existence of pagan/gentile ideas. Jews would accept the poly-ideastic way of the world. Unlike (1) Jews, the (3) Jews would extensively engage with the gentile world. But unlike (2) Jews, they would not try to conquer the world with one idea, like Christianity or Communism. Rather, they would allow various ideas/interests to exist BUT have those ideas/interests serve the Higher and Greater ideas/interests of Jews. It’s like the Roman Empire. It allowed non-Romans to keep their cultures and etc. But the Empire also insisted that non-Romans all serve Roman agendas and interests in the end. Instead of universalism where everyone has the same ideas, icons, and idols, it’d be a poly-versal empire where various peoples would stick to their ideas, icons, and idols that, however, would be manipulated to serve the Higher Idea. So, Jews adopted a kind of neo-paganism for their own purposes. In pagan cosmology, there are various gods, but there is also the top god, and the lower gods serve the top god. Jewish manipulation of neo-paganism had non-Jews as lesser gods serving Jews as the top gods. This way, pagans/gentiles could have their own identities and cultures… but they would ultimately bow down to the higher identity and culture of Jews.

    And we see this with how STAR WARS became STAR SCHWARZ. It is still very pagan and steeped in the Carl-Jung-Joseph-Campbell thing, but it now favors feminism, jungle fever, Diversity, and etc to occupy what were essentially roles defined by European pagans. But we see the same thing with BBC. British and European histories are retconned to push the Jewish agenda of Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs with Jungle Fever for white women and cuckery for white men. Hollywood Jews said the next James Bond will be a Negro.
    The great western heroes, Lancelot and Achilles, have been made black in BBC and TV shows. So, even as Jews maintain the pagan idols, they change the cast to push the Jewish agenda of perpetuating white submissivism so that whites will forever lose white pride and identity. A people without pride become mental slaves and serve OTHER peoples.

    Communism and Christianity(and Islam) were mono-imperial systems. Ideally, all of humanity should come under the One True Idea, and all men must struggle for the exact same principles and goals. Both have roots in Jewish culture because Jews developed the notion of the One God and One Truth, with all other gods deserving to be either holocausted or denied their validity/existence.

    In contrast, there was the poly-imperial systems. It attempted to conquer as many lands and people as possible. But it didn’t believe there was one true idea for all. It was more about power and control than conversion. So, other peoples, the conquered subjects, could believe in their own gods, stick with their own traditions/values, and worship their own idols. However, they had to accept the Imperial Rulers as the top power. They had to pay taxes to the top power. They had to bow down to the military might of the top power. Romans were like this,and the Romans managed well with most pagan folks. But they had the most problem with Jews because, unlike pagans, Jews believed their God was the only true God. So, Romans had the stronger military and greater material power, but Jews had the stronger idea, greater spiritual might, and farther-reaching prophetic vision. Romans could win with arms, but Jews could win with vision. But to win, Jews had to develop an idea that could win over the hearts of gentiles/pagans. And that was Christianity. In a way, the spread of Christianity was a great triumph of the Jewish idea over gentiles. But because most Jews didn’t take to the new faith and stuck with their own original concept, the Jewish Heresy turned on them. So, Christianity was both the biggest triumph and tragedy for Jews. Communism would turn out similarly. Jews won big and lost big with it.

    So, what is the best way for Jews to win? Self-enclosed tribalism won’t get anywhere. Jews must engage with the whole world that is goyim. Should Jews come up with a universal idea for all mankind? But then, gentiles will eventually come to own the idea and use it for their own interests, and this might hurt Jews.
    Given those odds, the best way is for Jews to make peace with gentile ideas, icons, and interests but find some way to make them serve Jewish identity, ideas, and interests as the highest and greatest there is. It’s like how Jews work with Evangelicals. Jews are okay with the born-again folks worshiping Jesus and etc, BUT much of Evangelicalism is now ‘muh Israel, muh Israel, muh Israel’. Jews work well with Mormons, but Mormons are all about ‘muh Israel, muh Israel, muh Israel’. So, Jews are okay with Mormons being Mormons BUT Mormons better still put Jewish interests above Mormon interests. It’s like Romans were okay with Syrians and Britons, but those conquered folks still had to obey Roman power before their own. Even as Romans didn’t erase other people’s cultures and idols, those had to be made subservient to Roman culture and idols as the highest there are.
    And modern Jews adopted this, esp from Anglos, the modern folks who come closest to being like the Romans of old. So, the US is now about diversity and how different folks can have their own cultures, identities, and narratives… BUT they better put ‘muh Israel’ before anything. Jews don’t have to attend meetings for Russian, Iranian, Chinese, Mexican, African, etc interests BUT all gentile politicians have to attend AIPAC to praise ‘muh Israel’. Look at that whore Nikki Haley, the semi-person-of-dot.

    The COEN movie HAIL CAESAR offers a useful glimpse into this Jewish agenda. Like some other Coen movies, it is pretty mocking of Christianity as a religion that controls the goyim. Even though goyim have used Christianity to oppress Jews, it also tames goyim and turns them into saps who can be manipulated by Jews.
    Some people think Coens are respectful of Christianity. They are not. What they are interested in is the psycho-politics of Christianity, and in this, they share something with Steven Spielberg who has adopted Catholicist and Evangelical tropes to push his vision of Pop Jewishism on the world.

    In a scene in HAIL CAESAR we see a Rabbi who is offended by what Christian clergy has to say. Even though Jews have been anti-Christian, there’s a kind of paradox. Jews have been so anti-Christian because they are so Christoid, conviction that Jewish individuals could become like Christ. The main problem that Jews have with Christianity is it deified the prophet and messiah into Son of God or even God. The Jewish idea of the Messiah was a great prophet, warrior, messenger. Jews never conceived of messiah as God or even Son of God. Jewish concept of the messiah is empowering because the messiah is a prophet, and a man can be a prophet. So, by the Jewish concept of the messiah, any Jewish man can, at least theoretically, be a messiah since he could be the great prophet. In contrast, Christianity says the messiah is not a prophet but the Son of God or God Himself. And that means there is no more Future. The Truth has been revealed through Jesus the Son of God, and humanity has no more need for prophets. After Jesus, there can only be saints. Saints are different from prophets. Saints don’t have the great vision. They just have the pure faith in God and Jesus. Their duty is to be angelic and devoted. They are not seers of the Future since the Truth has already been revealed. Thus, Christianity destroyed the prophetic tradition. It allowed for many saints but no prophets. In contrast, Jews never gave up on the notion of the prophet. Since the messiah has yet to come and since a man can be a prophet and since a prophet can be the messiah, any Jewish man can, at least theoretically, be the prophet-messiah.

    In some ways, Christianity is more hubristic than Judaism, but in some ways, it is more humble. It is more hubristic in the notion that a Man who walks on Earth can be the Son of God, even God. To Jews, this was pure blasphemy, an affront to God.
    And yet, precisely because Jesus wasn’t just a great prophet but Son of God or God as the Messiah, no other man can ever come anywhere near Him or be like Him. He is the ONLY Man who could be the Messiah since Christianity says Messiah = Son of God = God.

    In contrast, Judaism can be said to be more humble because it says no man can be the Son of God or God. God is too great and doesn’t manifest Himself in human form. And yet, because the Jewish concept of the Messiah is a prophet, any Jew could conceivably be him. Granted, the Messiah could be like an angel sent from Heaven. Even so, he is still not Son of God or God. He is still closer to man if not a man. Since Jews defined the Messiah in this manner, each Jew is instilled with propheticism which is far more ambitious and egoistic than sainthood, which is about devotion and faith. A prophet is humble before God but confident of his vision as the messenger of God. In contrast, a saint is not about the power of mind and vision but goodness of the heart and faith. It’s a bit sappy.

    In the conference with rabbi and Christian clergy in HAIL CAESAR, the rabbi says God cannot be shown in Jewish culture. And in the movie, we are not shown the face of Jesus in the movie-within-the-movie. But we see a lot of the Roman soldier. And we see the shabbos goy gentile studio boss, but we are never shown his Jewish boss Schenk who is like a godly presence. Both the Roman soldier(George Clooney) and the goy studio boss have two modes of behavior: soldier and saint. As soldier, he is rough and aggressive. But when faced with the greater prophetic power of Jesus, he goes into saint mode with sappy face. And the goy studio boss is the same way. He can be tough and push actors around. He whips the crew to get the job done. He is warrior-like in that mode. But he is deeply respectful to his boss Schenk who is like a divine prophet to him.(Schenk is like the Jewish prophet of capitalism; Marcuse is like Jewish prophet of communism; Hollywood is divided between two modes.) Schenk apparently has the vision whereas his shabbos goy underling can manage things but lacks the big vision. After all, Jews invented Hollywood, the empire of dreams where gentile-pagan idols and icons came to be reshaped to serve the Jewish Empire.

    HAIL CAESAR is a rather confused movie because its allusions are often double-or-triple-in-meaning. There is Scarlett Johansson as Rhinemaiden of Wagner’s mythology. But she is swallowed up by what? Whale that swallowed Jonah? This Jewish whale also swallows the gold and then its blowhole ejaculates like Harvey Weinstein’s pud. But later, this woman is like a perverse allusion to the Madonna. She is pregnant with a child from a uncertain father and she ends up marrying a guy named Joe, like Mary was married to Joseph. So,a character is alluded to both Germanic mythology and the Biblical story. Weird. And later a Soviet submarine emerges like the whale. I guess Sovietism is like the other Jewish creation. Whale of communism vs Whale of capitalism, both trying to devour the wealth of the world as a good or an evil. But the guy loses the money in the water cuz of the dog(like the dog that messed up the heist in THE KILLING by Kubrick). It’s a very confused movie, but also a very inspired and interesting one. I can understand why it flopped at the box office. Though a comedy, there’s a lot more going on there which is esoteric.

    Anyway, the movie is onto something. We tend to see history in terms of Jews vs Christianity but it’s more like Future Christoidism vs Been-there-done-there-Christianism.
    Christianity says the Christ was among us, and He was Son of God, thus God, and we all need to be saints with sappy faces like when George Clooney looks at Jesus who offers him water.
    In contrast, Jews believe the Future is filled with new christoids with prophetic vision. Jews accept Jesus as prophet but not messiah. So, Christ was only a prophet, and that means there can be future christs or christoids… like Marx, Rand, Marcuse, etc. And the 20th century has been filled with Jewish prophets and would-be prophets. And this has been a source of great power for Jews. In the end, the stronger idea gains dominance over weaker ones. And the fact is the prophet is more powerful than the saint. Saint is a pawn on the chess board whereas the prophet is the rook or queen. Saint blindly and sappily serves and obeys the king. The queen and rook serve the king too but have their own agency and greater reach in movement.

    Because Jews are still in prophetic mode whereas Christians are in saint mode, the globalist empire has the weaker saintly ideas of gentiles serving the stronger prophetic ideas of Jews.

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    You seem bound and determined to prove out the value of the latter half of Chesterton’s observation that “the whole truth is generally the ally of virtue; a half-truth is always the ally of some vice.”
    , @Che Guava
    lo Priss.

    Interesting comment, as always.

    For the OT, tale of Lot.

    For now, Israelis are at the centre of world trade in MDA and MDMA. and the soldiiers takiog them comnonly bugger each other.

    Have heard it from them.
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  85. Z-man says:

    Walt Disney is tuning in his grave.

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    turning
    , @Gene Su
    I heard that Disney might adapt the Tripod trilogy in the near future (White Mountains, City of Lead and Gold, Pool of Fire). I hope that they don't mess that up. In particular, the protagonists are supposed to be 3 European white boys. I hope they don't change that. I note that that fine piece of literature was written by a Brit, not an American.
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  86. Wally says:
    @KenH
    I lost interest halfway through the first Stars Wars movie remake. The racial and political overtones were obvious as was the message that the rainbow invariably triumphs over whiteness. Like most movies it's more psychological warfare against whites and multicult propaganda dressed up as entertainment.

    Try looking at recent King Arthur movies.

    Types everywhere that were never involved originally.

    Dumb blacks in shiny helmets and wielding Excalibur type swords is pure comedy.

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  87. Z-man says:

    Now Star Wars Episode VIII (The Last Jedi), released in mid-December to resounding applause from Main Stream Media reviewers is tanking, well behind the 2015 Star Wars movie

    Anecdote: I heard the tail end of NPR film critics reviewing this new film and one of them a woman who I assume was a Jewess give the actor that played the evil jedi character rave reviews, lol, one Jew helping another.
    My son, a Star Wars fan, went to see this movie and he thought it sucked. ‘Nuff Said’.

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  88. Z-man says:
    @Z-man
    Walt Disney is tuning in his grave.

    turning

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  89. I could not care less about Star Wars. But someone is spending big buck$ spreading the hype because Star Wars has saturated the cultural landscape. From bus shelter ads and billboards to drink specials and theme nights at bars to dozens of articles and “think pieces” extolling its virtues – it is absolutely fucking everywhere. Almost all my friends, family, co-workers and even random interlocutors have “spontaneously” mentioned SW recently.

    First rule of propaganda: repetition, repetition, repetition. 21st century twist: plugged into a portable digital device all day = hypnotized and mind fucked right out in the open unaware that a message has been implanted by the Media Infotainment Complex. From RussiaDidIt to #SaveAleppo to some stupid movie…under the radar, past the distracted gatekeeper and into your mind. Brainwashing…it’s real and it works. Advertising alone is a $400 billion a year industry. IOW, it works as intended even if you think you are immune to its effects. You are not immune.

    Some of these diversity and/or movie critics are borderline paranoid cases who over egg the pudding at times but there is definitely a trend of belittling the male and the white in Media Infotainment Complex produced and mediated content. Fantasies of an SJW ruled nation will end in tears and bloodshed. Ditto the “white” version of the zero sum identity game. You are being played for fools by venal and corrupt psychopaths.

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  90. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    The movie industry doesn’t depend on the American box office at all. It makes it’s money in the international market.

    That’s hundreds of millions of low paid third world men who just love the special effects , cartoonish explosions, car chases and all the rest.

    Plus it’s an industry where everybody gets paid long before the movies are finished and on the market.

    “The movie industry doesn’t depend on the American box office at all. It makes it’s money in the international market.”

    Not really. The US is a critical market. Just because a movie makes lots of money overseas doesn’t mean that it makes a lot of profit. If an expensive Western movie tanks in the North American market, there is a good chance that it will make little or no profit despite how it does overseas.

    Take the World of Warcraft movie; it tanked in the US but made $200M in China, so you’d think by looking at it that the studio would be rushing out a sequel. But they’re not. Why? Because Chinese theatre chains take about 75% of the haul (compared with just 50% in the US), meaning that $200M is closer to $50M. Coupled with the fact that sequels have a tendency to make less and there is no profit to making an expensive CGI-laden sequel.

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  91. AndrewR says:

    Mark Hamill is 66 years old and almost certainly worth at least $50,000,000 and likely at least double that, so I admit I am baffled as to why he cucked so hard with that groveling apology. I hope someone explains it to me before I lose all respect for him.

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    Probably because Disney twisted his arm big time, I'll bet. They stand to lose money due to his public criticism. It wouldn't be difficult for a group of well-connected Hollywood people to ruin a guy like Hamill if they wanted to - leak embarrassing information about him to the press, have tabloids smear him, have SJW movie critics and media figures call him racist/sexist, pull some strings and get some of his projects publicly pulled, make the guy unemployable, make his relatives and friends suffer professionally if they are in the business....basically, the kinds of things Weinstein was accused of doing to his victims. Hamill has good reasons to shut up, which is why I don't mind a little SJWism from guys like him. Sometimes, you gotta say what you gotta say in that PC industry.
    , @geokat62

    I hope someone explains it to me before I lose all respect for him.
     
    https://screenrant.com/mark-hamill-kids-star-wars-cameos/
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  92. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    Mark Hamill is 66 years old and almost certainly worth at least $50,000,000 and likely at least double that, so I admit I am baffled as to why he cucked so hard with that groveling apology. I hope someone explains it to me before I lose all respect for him.

    Probably because Disney twisted his arm big time, I’ll bet. They stand to lose money due to his public criticism. It wouldn’t be difficult for a group of well-connected Hollywood people to ruin a guy like Hamill if they wanted to – leak embarrassing information about him to the press, have tabloids smear him, have SJW movie critics and media figures call him racist/sexist, pull some strings and get some of his projects publicly pulled, make the guy unemployable, make his relatives and friends suffer professionally if they are in the business….basically, the kinds of things Weinstein was accused of doing to his victims. Hamill has good reasons to shut up, which is why I don’t mind a little SJWism from guys like him. Sometimes, you gotta say what you gotta say in that PC industry.

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  93. @German_reader

    But the Galactic Empire did feel the need to retain some trappings of the old Republic like the Senate
     
    That's because it obviously was modelled on ancient Rome, not imperial Germany.

    Fair enough, it’s not a perfect parallel. But the resolution of the Civil War seems clearly patterned after Versailles.

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  94. geokat62 says:
    @AndrewR
    Mark Hamill is 66 years old and almost certainly worth at least $50,000,000 and likely at least double that, so I admit I am baffled as to why he cucked so hard with that groveling apology. I hope someone explains it to me before I lose all respect for him.

    I hope someone explains it to me before I lose all respect for him.

    https://screenrant.com/mark-hamill-kids-star-wars-cameos/

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  95. @Expletive Deleted
    You and I might well fall out.
    His father, and my mother, are some kind of cousin. Althought the titles went extinct in the '70s, they were close friends of Edward and the American Woman, and lost favour after the War due to fashy opinions and lack of heirs (made the Kents look like hippies).
    Young Stef there is I think more of the Calais/Irish line, rather than Sefton (& Croxteth), but it's still, what, 952 years since they sauntered into the island?

    By the way, he looks right, nasty goat beard and baldy head and all. All my male (and possibly some female ..) cousins on that side have 'that look'.
    Who gives a flying fuck who his mam was? Azure a cross moline or. Women count for nothing, and the sooner you understand that, the happier you'll die.
    .

    Expletive Deleted: This is a half-arsed, @✴#ed up comment. But your relation to (((Molyneux))) is a reason for this illogical writing. His mammy matters because Jewishness is matrilineal. He did go to Christian schools, but he Joooooy through and through. “Women count for nothing…,” tell that to your mammy, or any women in your life (if you dare).

    As usual, I quote facts and I get emotional, cuck drivel in return.

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  96. Allen says:
    @Priss Factor
    In a way, the New STAR WARS Makes Perfect Sense Given the Change in Ownership from George Lucas to Disney. Force reflects real power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtV2KTeR0o

    Richard Spencer in the video above complains about how the New STAR WARS doesn't respect or conform to the original vision created by George Lucas. And many others have lodged similar complaints. Across the political spectrum, many are not pleased with the new series and especially the new movie because it deviates from the original vision that they grew up with. Many adult audience members spent their formative yrs watching the original series, the first three released from 1977 to 1983 and the second trilogy from 1999 to 2005. So, they have a fixed idea of what STAR WARS universe and the Force are about. Therefore, when confronted with the revisions and narrative-thematic purging of the New Series, they are bewildered and even exasperated by Disney's lack of 'respect' for Lucas' original vision. (But do they ever ask why Lucas still deserves respect when he sold his baby to Disney for billions of shekels?)

    Now, the complainers have a point. The new series may well indeed violate the core principles of Lucas' original vision. It may go against the spirit of the original incarnation under Lucas' command. But they are overlooking certain key facts about the Way of Power in culture. What goes for Power goes for the Force. The Force in STAR WARS is whatever those with the possession of copyright say it is. The Force was what it was as long as Lucas had control over it. But with Jews at Disney now owning STAR WARS, the Force is whatever THEY make it out to be. It's as Carl Schmitt said of the nature of law and power. No law exists outside the reality of power. Basic laws are vaguely worded, and it is the Power that decides the meaning and force of those words. So, when Jews gained control of US culture and jurisprudence, the Constitution came to mean Open Borders, Diversity, Anti-White Dogma(to enforce white submissivism necessary to serve Jewish dominance), and 'Gay Marriage'. Americanism and Constitutionalism were always shaped and determined by the Power. After all, what is Free Speech? Jews once used to say Free Speech means all speech, from far right to far left, should be free.Back then, Jews feared censorship of Jewish radicalism and pornography(big profits for Jews) by traditional Christian power. But once Jews gained supreme power in the US, they came to fear Free Speech as criticism of Jewish Power. Therefore, Jews redefined Free Speech as excluding 'hate speech'. Since Jewish Power controls the meaning of 'hate speech', Zionist speech(that demeans Palestinians) is not 'hate speech', but BDS speech that calls for justice for Palestinians must be criminalized as 'hate'. The Power decides what is 'hate', and that means Jewish elites with supreme power in the US get to denounce and suppress certain speech as 'hateful'.

    What goes for Reality goes for Fantasy. The rules of fantasy will always be controlled by those with power over the fantasy. So, it doesn't matter what Lucas did with the original STAR WARS. It doesn't matter how the Force was manifested in the first six movies. The fact is the power of the Force has gone over to Jews at Disney, and that means Jews will alter the Force to suit their agendas and biases. It's simple as that. So, when Richard Spencer and others talk of STAR WARS as a universe existing independent of copyright ownership and moneyed control, they are being naive. They are presuming that there really is a Core Canonical Principles of the STAR WARS and the dynamics of the Force. No, such was all make-believe and can easily be altered based on whomever is now in control.
    Spencer has emphasized over and over how it's foolish to believe in Constitutionalism as a principle independent of power. He has castigated the so-called True Conservatives who claim to stand for abstract American Values of Liberty and Individualism. His point is that American Constitutionalism will always be determined by those with real power. The Constitution can be molded to mean just about anything. At one time, it even justified slavery and the ethnic cleansing of American Indians. And the 'internment' of the Japanese. And censorship of obscene material offensive to Christians. The Constitution allowed all such censorship and restrictions in the past because the White Christian Majority could will the Constitution to support and defend certain values and interests. But once Jews gained control of the Constitution, the US came to be all about ISRAEL FIRST, favoring Zionists over all other peoples(esp the Palestinians), Open Borders Immigration to turn whites into a minority, and etc. The Constitution now serves the interests of Zionist-Supremacism. And since Jews have chosen Homomania as the proxy agent of Jewish Globlaism, the Worship of Homos and Trannies has become the new christianity or Queertianity. The Christian Church is like the Constitution. In the end, it will be what those in power say it's about. The Power decides and molds & twists the presumed core principles to its will.

    If Spencer is so perceptive about the relation between Power and Laws, why is he so naive and earnest in his assessment of the new STAR WARS movie? He seems baffled as to why the new series violated and betrayed what STAR WARS is really supposed to be about. But his idea of 'real Star Wars' only applies to the franchise that was owned by Lucas. As long as Lucas had power over his baby, he could do as he pleased. But when he sold the Force to Disney, Jews had the power over the Force, and they could bend it to serve their own biases and agendas. It's like if you give your kid up for adoption, the adoptive parents can do whatever they want to with it. Jews can adopt a non-Jew and raise it as a Jew. And of course, the new STAR WARS reflects this reality. What are the agendas of Jewish globalists? It is white feminism. Jews use feminism or man-hate to drive a wedge between white men and white women. By thus setting white women against white men, white race is weakened, and it is easier for Jews to maintain control over white goyim. Jews also push race-mixing to destroy racial and ethnic identities. A people with confused identities are less likely to unite and rise up against the ruling elites. It is also a way to demoralize white males and destroy their pride. By especially promoting interracism between black males and white females, Jews send a message that black males are superior studs while white males are either dorky cucks or wussy homos. And the new STAR WARS is geared to turning its white heroine into a race-mixer. We see this all around in TV commercials, TV shows, and movies. Jews want to make the next James Bond black. Jews want to put the black male on the pedestal as the top alpha male who deserves to take white women. As for white males, they are either old farts who should die or dorky cucks who should delight in their own defeat and humiliation.

    Jews also push for massive 'immigration' to increase Diversity. Why do Jews do this? Jewish elites fear a homogeneous population that might unite against Jewish power. So, Jews seek to increase Diversity and set various goyim against one another. That way, the goyim won't be able to unite as one people against Jewish elites. And of course, the new STAR WARS is all about Diversity, a weapon of Jews against native populations of any nation. Meanwhile, virtually all the villains are white, especially white males.

    In the end, the Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews? According to the original spirit of the Torah, God cannot be manifest in human form. And God's Covenant is with Jews, not with all of humanity. But Christianity had Jesus as Son of God, a human figure walking among mankind. And Christianity said the new covenant is with all of humanity. In the end, it didn't matter how much Jews protested. The fact is when the idea of God passed over to Christian and later Muslim gentiles, they changed or twisted the principles to serve their own interests and agendas. Jewish concept of God was limited only to spaces in which Jews had the power. In gentile spaces where Christians and Muslims had control over the idea of God, His meaning and design could be altered, even drastically, to serve interests inimical to Jews.

    So, what happened to STAR WARS isn't much different from what happened to the concept of the Jewish God once its ownership passed over to gentiles. Via Christian conversion, many gentiles became believers in God, and this belief gave them ownership of the meaning of God. And in their self-interest, they altered and violated many principles so dear to Jews who had once held sole ownership of their God.
    Likewise, STAR WARS owned by Lucas and beloved by so many people had canonical value only as long as its ownership remained with those who remained loyal to the original vision. But once the ownership changed hands, the New Masters were bound to make the franchise serve their own biases and interests.
    This happens with every newspaper or magazine. It doesn't matter what its original masthead declaration of principles was. The new owners will bend the purpose to their own will. This is why The New Republic changed drastically when it was taken over by Neocons under the tutelage of Martin Peretz. And then, once ownership changed once more, it turned into just some homo-globalist hipster rag. Or consider Huffington Post. Despite its name, Ariana Huffington has nothing to do with the new incarnation, and it's changed considerably from what it had been under her control.

    If Alt Right has gained ownership of STARS WARS franchise, they would have made it serve its vision and interests. Richard Spencer as producer-director of STAR WARS would have made the Empire the good guys, and of course, many fans would have screamed Bloody Murder in protest. It's like Stanley Kubrick did his OWN thing with THE SHINING to the never-ending ire of Stephen King who felt Kubrick betrayed his core concept and meaning. But as King had sold movie rights to Kubrick, he was helpless to stop it.
    Indeed, if there is such a thing as Alt Right STAR WARS fanfiction, the narratives likely serve the biases of White Nationalism. But since Jews of Disney own STAR WARS, the franchise is now used to further the Jewish Supremacist agenda of globalism.

    Same thing happened with dialectical communism. The original theory by Karl Marx prophesied that conditions would worsen to the point where the working class would rise up to overthrow the bourgeoisie. Since the Proletariat was essential to this revolution, only an industrialized nation with a majority prole population could undergo the great tranformation. But when Lenin and Stalin took control of the theory, it was altered so that even a backward semi-industrial nation like Russia could have a communist revolution. Spontaneous uprising by the working class was no longer necessary. A radical vanguard with the support of secret police apparatus could pull it off. Later, Mao altered the meaning of Marxism even more by arguing that a communist revolution could happen with a peasant army. So, despite the original canonical meaning of Marxist theory, in the real world of actual practice, Marxism could be molded to be anything by the powers-that-be. If Maoism said Marxism could prevail in an agricultural society, that was the official lore of the land.And later, when reformers took control of China, communism could mean market economics. So, even as the Chinese Communist Party maintained the symbolism of Mao, the Red Flag, and revolutionary pageantry, the New Way was about buying-and-selling, trade with capitalist powers, and getting rich. Indeed, consider how Che Guevara became linked with capitalist pop culture and hedonism even though he hated Rock music, hippies, and materialism.

    So, if we apply Carl-Schmitt-ian analysis to the new STAR WARS, no one should be surprised that the new owners of the Force changed the meaning to suit their ethno-socio-economic purposes. No school of laws, no work of culture, and no set of principles exist in some pure form in a vacuum. They always exist in a world of people with competing interests and agendas. Indeed, even among Christians, different sects disagree on the meaning of Jesus. In many denominations today, homomaniacs have taken over and insist that the faith is about worshiping homos and trannies. And warmongering patriots believe that Christianity is about the flag and guns. So, expecting the STAR WARS universe to remain pristine or resist heretical ideas is wishful thinking. STAR WARS will be whatever those with ownership of it make it to be.
    It's like the Hagia Sophia Mosque in Istanbul. It was originally built as a Christian Cathedral, but Muslims altered the meaning. At one time, Ottoman Turks even altered the Parthenon to serve as a place of prayer for Muslims. But then, Christians had done the same to Pagan Temples. While Christians destroyed some pagan temples, they altered some to serve Jesus than the pagan gods. If we see STAR WARS as a kind of pop mythology or fanboy church, its core meaning will change to the tune of whoever has control over it. Consider the evolution of the Parthenon depending on who held power over Athens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGitmYl6U90

    Another complaint oft-heard from the detractors of the new series is that the nature of the Force has change considerably from the original series. They object to how the Force has become so easy with the young heroine. And Spencer wonders how someone with such humble background could have the Force. But, they are forgetting that George Lucas himself kept changing the nature of the Force. In PHANTOM MENACE, he altered the Force from some mysterious essence to something that can be medically detected in blood. And for those who have problems with the young heroine's humble background in the new series, the old series would have us believe that some slave woman could give a miracle virgin birth to some kid who, at the tender age of 7, can win a hyper-drive chariot race and man spaceships and blow up seasoned enemy pilots. So, if a 7 yr old squirt can do all that, is it really so strange to see a young heroine do 'badass' things?

    Also, if a female slave non-entity(in PHANTOM MENACE) could give a miracle birth to some kid with the Force, why is it so surprising that the heroine in the new series could have super-Force despite being born to humble parents? Besides, if the 20th century taught us anything, it was that those from the humblest backgrounds could become giants of history: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.

    As for the heroine's ease with mastering the Force, we need to understand that pop culture reflects the times. When Lucas made STAR WARS, power was still institutionalized. One had to go through the proper institutions/channels or gain access to big industries to be somebody. To be an influential journalist, one had to gain position at CBS or New York Times. To be an influential thinker, one had to have a position at Harvard or be promoted by top publishing companies and the media. To be a famous cultural celebrity, one had to be hired by TV, Hollywood, radio, or music industry. Even though there were alternative venues and underground artists, it was a tough climb to gain any kind of success, at least immediately. And Lucas struggled in this world. For him to gain access to film technology, he had to work hard and long and make the climb. To gain the Force, one had to go through the institutions controlled by high priests.

    But we now live in the internet age. Even a young person in a small town now has access to more news and information than New York Times did in the pre-internet age. When Lucas grew up, it was difficult to see foreign films. Only college towns and big cities showed them, and one had to wait long time to see certain movies. It was nearly impossible for anyone to see something when he wanted.
    Today, even someone living in the boonies can watch all sorts of movies from all parts of the world on the internet. Even a kid has more access to World Cinema than top film scholars did prior to the internet age.
    Also, even kids carry around smartphones that serve not only as phones but as internet screens, cameras, recording devices, and etc. It's like their light sabers.
    Thus, the Force has gone from institutional and individual in our world. Before the internet, someone like PewDiePie and Stefan Molyneux didn't have a chance at celebrity-hood. Institutions would not have given them the platform to express their views or pull their antics. But internet has been the great equalizer. Anyone can reach the world from inside their bedrooms. Some of these 'amateurs' have more fans and viewership than mainstream media do.
    So, the revision of the Force in the new series could very well reflect social change. Young people with interesting ideas, music, opinions, personalities, or shtick no longer have to make the Long March through the Institutions to say their say, gain a fanbase, develop a cult, and even become fabulously rich. Even demented Andrew Anglin has gained legendary anti-hero status because of the internet. Even with the attempts to shut down Daily Stormer, Anglin still has enough Troll Force to mess with the Narrative.

    Alt Right should know this since its rise owes so much to the internet, the great equalizer that has made it possible for oddballs like Mark Dice and Styxhexenhammer666 to get huge followings. This is why Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, and Google-Search are working in tandem with ADL to rig the game and ban certain voices deemed 'hateful', but the nature of the internet favors individuals over institutions. It has democratized the Force, for good or for ill.

    So, given all these changes and developments in society, is it any wonder that the nature of the Force has changed in the new series? Whereas Luke had to go through the institutions to gain his power, Rey doesn't. The Force has been digitalized and democratized.

    Internet and gadgets like smartphones have empowered individuals in ways that were unforeseeable when Lucas conceived STAR WARS. Just consider how the rise of high-tech allowed young ones to become overnight moguls and billionaires. Prior to the internet, could someone like Mark Zuckerberg become so rich so fast?

    Now, I'm not saying LAST JEDI is a good movie. I haven't seen it. I did see FORCE AWAKENS, and it was terrible. But, we should not be surprised that Force will change along with the change in ownership and will reflect social transformations all around us. In the end, most pop culture, even when set in the distant past or fantasy world, are more reflections of prevailing fashions and trends of the moment than works of purity remaining faithful to a set of core principles inside a bubble.

    Internet made even this young woman a celebrity and a known factor in culture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGEilqBNKwk

    Yeah, you obviously have no real understanding about the environment of 1st century Judaism and the rise of Christianity or even Islam (not that I have any deep knowledge about the later).

    First, it was the Jewish apostles who reached out to the gentiles and proclaimed that God’s kingdom was not synonymous with the ethnic nation of Israel. Even the most ardent skeptics typically won’t deny that it was the Jewish Paul who spearheaded spreading Christianity to the gentiles and accepting them as equals alongside Jewish converts. Apart from this, first century Judaism and parts of the Old Testament like Isaiah already had the concept that the reign of the Messiah would somehow benefit all peoples in the world. The church fathers and new testament authors emphasized continuity with the old testament not dismissive hand waving, or contemptuous subversion. Trying to liken the gospel message, which the apostles were willing to die for, with a corporate buyout is a bizarre.

    Likewise somehow insisting that Disney’s ability to make new stories using their interpretation of “the force” resembles the rise of Christianity is odd to say the least. Cultural and religious groups are often self-selected and typically self-perpetuating. The Christian, Jewish, and Islamic traditions all coexisted and continue to coexist because their adherents believed their faith contained the absolute revelation of truth. Now the dominant group could of course broadcast their interpretations in art, government, etc. but that didn’t prevent the other interpretations from existing. and of course, truth, meaning what actually corresponds with reality, exists independent of interpretation and cultural force. The contentions that Christ merely died as a man, rose as the Son of God, or did not die at all conflict and only one can be correct, in the sense that only one can be an accurate description of what happened in history.

    On a side note, I can’t help but object to some right-wingers attempts at conflating modern secular Jews with the Jews of ancient times. Acknowledging that modern secular Jews are behind a lot of subversive movements, the same cannot be said of 1st century Jews. Like it or not, it was the pagan Greco-Roman world that was all for pedophilia, homosexuality, abortion, and occasionally female empowerment (the last one is debatable but one can still find more feminist precursors in Rome than the old testament). Of course it is now Christianity that fights against these forces and secular Jews that support them, illustrating that it is the Christian church that carries on as the spiritual children of Abraham, as the New Testament and church fathers insisted.

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  97. Alden says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Spice prolonged life and intensified psychic abilities. It was necessary for the Mentats who performed a service called "folding space" (the Holtzman effect) which enabled multi-light year space trips in very little actual time.

    Thanks.

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  98. Dumbo says:

    On a separate note, I like that countries such as China and maybe Japan (?) still control which American movies they show and or at least take the most of their profits, I miss the time when each country still had their own movie industry and not all was just Hollywood dumb stuff globally, I mean now all over the world it is only Hollywood movies and even local production becomes just Holliwood-lite, like those recent French movies promoting mudsharking etc, there where nice European movies in the 60s and 70s and now? Just Hollywood-wannabe crap.

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  99. Jake says:
    @Priss Factor
    In a way, the New STAR WARS Makes Perfect Sense Given the Change in Ownership from George Lucas to Disney. Force reflects real power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtV2KTeR0o

    Richard Spencer in the video above complains about how the New STAR WARS doesn't respect or conform to the original vision created by George Lucas. And many others have lodged similar complaints. Across the political spectrum, many are not pleased with the new series and especially the new movie because it deviates from the original vision that they grew up with. Many adult audience members spent their formative yrs watching the original series, the first three released from 1977 to 1983 and the second trilogy from 1999 to 2005. So, they have a fixed idea of what STAR WARS universe and the Force are about. Therefore, when confronted with the revisions and narrative-thematic purging of the New Series, they are bewildered and even exasperated by Disney's lack of 'respect' for Lucas' original vision. (But do they ever ask why Lucas still deserves respect when he sold his baby to Disney for billions of shekels?)

    Now, the complainers have a point. The new series may well indeed violate the core principles of Lucas' original vision. It may go against the spirit of the original incarnation under Lucas' command. But they are overlooking certain key facts about the Way of Power in culture. What goes for Power goes for the Force. The Force in STAR WARS is whatever those with the possession of copyright say it is. The Force was what it was as long as Lucas had control over it. But with Jews at Disney now owning STAR WARS, the Force is whatever THEY make it out to be. It's as Carl Schmitt said of the nature of law and power. No law exists outside the reality of power. Basic laws are vaguely worded, and it is the Power that decides the meaning and force of those words. So, when Jews gained control of US culture and jurisprudence, the Constitution came to mean Open Borders, Diversity, Anti-White Dogma(to enforce white submissivism necessary to serve Jewish dominance), and 'Gay Marriage'. Americanism and Constitutionalism were always shaped and determined by the Power. After all, what is Free Speech? Jews once used to say Free Speech means all speech, from far right to far left, should be free.Back then, Jews feared censorship of Jewish radicalism and pornography(big profits for Jews) by traditional Christian power. But once Jews gained supreme power in the US, they came to fear Free Speech as criticism of Jewish Power. Therefore, Jews redefined Free Speech as excluding 'hate speech'. Since Jewish Power controls the meaning of 'hate speech', Zionist speech(that demeans Palestinians) is not 'hate speech', but BDS speech that calls for justice for Palestinians must be criminalized as 'hate'. The Power decides what is 'hate', and that means Jewish elites with supreme power in the US get to denounce and suppress certain speech as 'hateful'.

    What goes for Reality goes for Fantasy. The rules of fantasy will always be controlled by those with power over the fantasy. So, it doesn't matter what Lucas did with the original STAR WARS. It doesn't matter how the Force was manifested in the first six movies. The fact is the power of the Force has gone over to Jews at Disney, and that means Jews will alter the Force to suit their agendas and biases. It's simple as that. So, when Richard Spencer and others talk of STAR WARS as a universe existing independent of copyright ownership and moneyed control, they are being naive. They are presuming that there really is a Core Canonical Principles of the STAR WARS and the dynamics of the Force. No, such was all make-believe and can easily be altered based on whomever is now in control.
    Spencer has emphasized over and over how it's foolish to believe in Constitutionalism as a principle independent of power. He has castigated the so-called True Conservatives who claim to stand for abstract American Values of Liberty and Individualism. His point is that American Constitutionalism will always be determined by those with real power. The Constitution can be molded to mean just about anything. At one time, it even justified slavery and the ethnic cleansing of American Indians. And the 'internment' of the Japanese. And censorship of obscene material offensive to Christians. The Constitution allowed all such censorship and restrictions in the past because the White Christian Majority could will the Constitution to support and defend certain values and interests. But once Jews gained control of the Constitution, the US came to be all about ISRAEL FIRST, favoring Zionists over all other peoples(esp the Palestinians), Open Borders Immigration to turn whites into a minority, and etc. The Constitution now serves the interests of Zionist-Supremacism. And since Jews have chosen Homomania as the proxy agent of Jewish Globlaism, the Worship of Homos and Trannies has become the new christianity or Queertianity. The Christian Church is like the Constitution. In the end, it will be what those in power say it's about. The Power decides and molds & twists the presumed core principles to its will.

    If Spencer is so perceptive about the relation between Power and Laws, why is he so naive and earnest in his assessment of the new STAR WARS movie? He seems baffled as to why the new series violated and betrayed what STAR WARS is really supposed to be about. But his idea of 'real Star Wars' only applies to the franchise that was owned by Lucas. As long as Lucas had power over his baby, he could do as he pleased. But when he sold the Force to Disney, Jews had the power over the Force, and they could bend it to serve their own biases and agendas. It's like if you give your kid up for adoption, the adoptive parents can do whatever they want to with it. Jews can adopt a non-Jew and raise it as a Jew. And of course, the new STAR WARS reflects this reality. What are the agendas of Jewish globalists? It is white feminism. Jews use feminism or man-hate to drive a wedge between white men and white women. By thus setting white women against white men, white race is weakened, and it is easier for Jews to maintain control over white goyim. Jews also push race-mixing to destroy racial and ethnic identities. A people with confused identities are less likely to unite and rise up against the ruling elites. It is also a way to demoralize white males and destroy their pride. By especially promoting interracism between black males and white females, Jews send a message that black males are superior studs while white males are either dorky cucks or wussy homos. And the new STAR WARS is geared to turning its white heroine into a race-mixer. We see this all around in TV commercials, TV shows, and movies. Jews want to make the next James Bond black. Jews want to put the black male on the pedestal as the top alpha male who deserves to take white women. As for white males, they are either old farts who should die or dorky cucks who should delight in their own defeat and humiliation.

    Jews also push for massive 'immigration' to increase Diversity. Why do Jews do this? Jewish elites fear a homogeneous population that might unite against Jewish power. So, Jews seek to increase Diversity and set various goyim against one another. That way, the goyim won't be able to unite as one people against Jewish elites. And of course, the new STAR WARS is all about Diversity, a weapon of Jews against native populations of any nation. Meanwhile, virtually all the villains are white, especially white males.

    In the end, the Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews? According to the original spirit of the Torah, God cannot be manifest in human form. And God's Covenant is with Jews, not with all of humanity. But Christianity had Jesus as Son of God, a human figure walking among mankind. And Christianity said the new covenant is with all of humanity. In the end, it didn't matter how much Jews protested. The fact is when the idea of God passed over to Christian and later Muslim gentiles, they changed or twisted the principles to serve their own interests and agendas. Jewish concept of God was limited only to spaces in which Jews had the power. In gentile spaces where Christians and Muslims had control over the idea of God, His meaning and design could be altered, even drastically, to serve interests inimical to Jews.

    So, what happened to STAR WARS isn't much different from what happened to the concept of the Jewish God once its ownership passed over to gentiles. Via Christian conversion, many gentiles became believers in God, and this belief gave them ownership of the meaning of God. And in their self-interest, they altered and violated many principles so dear to Jews who had once held sole ownership of their God.
    Likewise, STAR WARS owned by Lucas and beloved by so many people had canonical value only as long as its ownership remained with those who remained loyal to the original vision. But once the ownership changed hands, the New Masters were bound to make the franchise serve their own biases and interests.
    This happens with every newspaper or magazine. It doesn't matter what its original masthead declaration of principles was. The new owners will bend the purpose to their own will. This is why The New Republic changed drastically when it was taken over by Neocons under the tutelage of Martin Peretz. And then, once ownership changed once more, it turned into just some homo-globalist hipster rag. Or consider Huffington Post. Despite its name, Ariana Huffington has nothing to do with the new incarnation, and it's changed considerably from what it had been under her control.

    If Alt Right has gained ownership of STARS WARS franchise, they would have made it serve its vision and interests. Richard Spencer as producer-director of STAR WARS would have made the Empire the good guys, and of course, many fans would have screamed Bloody Murder in protest. It's like Stanley Kubrick did his OWN thing with THE SHINING to the never-ending ire of Stephen King who felt Kubrick betrayed his core concept and meaning. But as King had sold movie rights to Kubrick, he was helpless to stop it.
    Indeed, if there is such a thing as Alt Right STAR WARS fanfiction, the narratives likely serve the biases of White Nationalism. But since Jews of Disney own STAR WARS, the franchise is now used to further the Jewish Supremacist agenda of globalism.

    Same thing happened with dialectical communism. The original theory by Karl Marx prophesied that conditions would worsen to the point where the working class would rise up to overthrow the bourgeoisie. Since the Proletariat was essential to this revolution, only an industrialized nation with a majority prole population could undergo the great tranformation. But when Lenin and Stalin took control of the theory, it was altered so that even a backward semi-industrial nation like Russia could have a communist revolution. Spontaneous uprising by the working class was no longer necessary. A radical vanguard with the support of secret police apparatus could pull it off. Later, Mao altered the meaning of Marxism even more by arguing that a communist revolution could happen with a peasant army. So, despite the original canonical meaning of Marxist theory, in the real world of actual practice, Marxism could be molded to be anything by the powers-that-be. If Maoism said Marxism could prevail in an agricultural society, that was the official lore of the land.And later, when reformers took control of China, communism could mean market economics. So, even as the Chinese Communist Party maintained the symbolism of Mao, the Red Flag, and revolutionary pageantry, the New Way was about buying-and-selling, trade with capitalist powers, and getting rich. Indeed, consider how Che Guevara became linked with capitalist pop culture and hedonism even though he hated Rock music, hippies, and materialism.

    So, if we apply Carl-Schmitt-ian analysis to the new STAR WARS, no one should be surprised that the new owners of the Force changed the meaning to suit their ethno-socio-economic purposes. No school of laws, no work of culture, and no set of principles exist in some pure form in a vacuum. They always exist in a world of people with competing interests and agendas. Indeed, even among Christians, different sects disagree on the meaning of Jesus. In many denominations today, homomaniacs have taken over and insist that the faith is about worshiping homos and trannies. And warmongering patriots believe that Christianity is about the flag and guns. So, expecting the STAR WARS universe to remain pristine or resist heretical ideas is wishful thinking. STAR WARS will be whatever those with ownership of it make it to be.
    It's like the Hagia Sophia Mosque in Istanbul. It was originally built as a Christian Cathedral, but Muslims altered the meaning. At one time, Ottoman Turks even altered the Parthenon to serve as a place of prayer for Muslims. But then, Christians had done the same to Pagan Temples. While Christians destroyed some pagan temples, they altered some to serve Jesus than the pagan gods. If we see STAR WARS as a kind of pop mythology or fanboy church, its core meaning will change to the tune of whoever has control over it. Consider the evolution of the Parthenon depending on who held power over Athens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGitmYl6U90

    Another complaint oft-heard from the detractors of the new series is that the nature of the Force has change considerably from the original series. They object to how the Force has become so easy with the young heroine. And Spencer wonders how someone with such humble background could have the Force. But, they are forgetting that George Lucas himself kept changing the nature of the Force. In PHANTOM MENACE, he altered the Force from some mysterious essence to something that can be medically detected in blood. And for those who have problems with the young heroine's humble background in the new series, the old series would have us believe that some slave woman could give a miracle virgin birth to some kid who, at the tender age of 7, can win a hyper-drive chariot race and man spaceships and blow up seasoned enemy pilots. So, if a 7 yr old squirt can do all that, is it really so strange to see a young heroine do 'badass' things?

    Also, if a female slave non-entity(in PHANTOM MENACE) could give a miracle birth to some kid with the Force, why is it so surprising that the heroine in the new series could have super-Force despite being born to humble parents? Besides, if the 20th century taught us anything, it was that those from the humblest backgrounds could become giants of history: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.

    As for the heroine's ease with mastering the Force, we need to understand that pop culture reflects the times. When Lucas made STAR WARS, power was still institutionalized. One had to go through the proper institutions/channels or gain access to big industries to be somebody. To be an influential journalist, one had to gain position at CBS or New York Times. To be an influential thinker, one had to have a position at Harvard or be promoted by top publishing companies and the media. To be a famous cultural celebrity, one had to be hired by TV, Hollywood, radio, or music industry. Even though there were alternative venues and underground artists, it was a tough climb to gain any kind of success, at least immediately. And Lucas struggled in this world. For him to gain access to film technology, he had to work hard and long and make the climb. To gain the Force, one had to go through the institutions controlled by high priests.

    But we now live in the internet age. Even a young person in a small town now has access to more news and information than New York Times did in the pre-internet age. When Lucas grew up, it was difficult to see foreign films. Only college towns and big cities showed them, and one had to wait long time to see certain movies. It was nearly impossible for anyone to see something when he wanted.
    Today, even someone living in the boonies can watch all sorts of movies from all parts of the world on the internet. Even a kid has more access to World Cinema than top film scholars did prior to the internet age.
    Also, even kids carry around smartphones that serve not only as phones but as internet screens, cameras, recording devices, and etc. It's like their light sabers.
    Thus, the Force has gone from institutional and individual in our world. Before the internet, someone like PewDiePie and Stefan Molyneux didn't have a chance at celebrity-hood. Institutions would not have given them the platform to express their views or pull their antics. But internet has been the great equalizer. Anyone can reach the world from inside their bedrooms. Some of these 'amateurs' have more fans and viewership than mainstream media do.
    So, the revision of the Force in the new series could very well reflect social change. Young people with interesting ideas, music, opinions, personalities, or shtick no longer have to make the Long March through the Institutions to say their say, gain a fanbase, develop a cult, and even become fabulously rich. Even demented Andrew Anglin has gained legendary anti-hero status because of the internet. Even with the attempts to shut down Daily Stormer, Anglin still has enough Troll Force to mess with the Narrative.

    Alt Right should know this since its rise owes so much to the internet, the great equalizer that has made it possible for oddballs like Mark Dice and Styxhexenhammer666 to get huge followings. This is why Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, and Google-Search are working in tandem with ADL to rig the game and ban certain voices deemed 'hateful', but the nature of the internet favors individuals over institutions. It has democratized the Force, for good or for ill.

    So, given all these changes and developments in society, is it any wonder that the nature of the Force has changed in the new series? Whereas Luke had to go through the institutions to gain his power, Rey doesn't. The Force has been digitalized and democratized.

    Internet and gadgets like smartphones have empowered individuals in ways that were unforeseeable when Lucas conceived STAR WARS. Just consider how the rise of high-tech allowed young ones to become overnight moguls and billionaires. Prior to the internet, could someone like Mark Zuckerberg become so rich so fast?

    Now, I'm not saying LAST JEDI is a good movie. I haven't seen it. I did see FORCE AWAKENS, and it was terrible. But, we should not be surprised that Force will change along with the change in ownership and will reflect social transformations all around us. In the end, most pop culture, even when set in the distant past or fantasy world, are more reflections of prevailing fashions and trends of the moment than works of purity remaining faithful to a set of core principles inside a bubble.

    Internet made even this young woman a celebrity and a known factor in culture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGEilqBNKwk

    “Richard Spencer in the video above complains about how the New STAR WARS doesn’t respect or conform to the original vision created by George Lucas. And many others have lodged similar complaints. …

    Now, the complainers have a point. The new series may well indeed violate the core principles of Lucas’ original vision. It may go against the spirit of the original incarnation under Lucas’ command.”

    Ideas have consequences. Lucas’ original idea was based on his romanticizing of East Asian religion and pseudo-philosophy. He was using fiction to replace Western civilization, to replace Christian morality and identity, to replace the concept of Christian knight with galactic pagan Jedi. All of which means eventually replacing the people of the civilization.

    This mess is inherent in the original.

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  100. Lana Kane says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Spice prolonged life and intensified psychic abilities. It was necessary for the Mentats who performed a service called "folding space" (the Holtzman effect) which enabled multi-light year space trips in very little actual time.

    “Spice prolonged life and intensified psychic abilities. It was necessary for the Mentats who performed a service called “folding space” (the Holtzman effect) which enabled multi-light year space trips in very little actual time.”

    The Guild Navigators (seriously mutated humans) performed the foldspace navigation schtick, and spice was the key to their talent; the mentats were human calculators that performed the functions of (outlawed) electronic computers. I don`t recall that spice was necessary for them to do that, in fact I think Herbert`s main theme in Dune is that humans have vast untapped mental and physical potential that can be released through proper training and the therapeutic use of psychedelic drugs (definitely a reflection of the times in which he was writing; late 60s through the early eighties).

    It`s so sad that I know all of that.

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    It`s so sad that I know all of that.
     
    What's sad is that so few of the educated know.
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  101. @Priss Factor
    Star Wars lobotomized sci-fi genre.

    Classic exchange.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky9-eIlHzAE

    I agree with Simon. I was 10 when the first Star Wars came out. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the Empire Strikes Back. After that I got older and lost interest.

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  102. dfordoom says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter
    Stop .. showing ... ANY ... Hollywood .. movies to your children ... already. Damn, what does it take, people? Stop being naive. Stop trusting that maybe THIS movie or show isn't so bad. Just stop.

    Toss the TV and eschew internet programming and stop financing the brainwashing, perversion and demoralization of your children. Please.

    Stop .. showing … ANY … Hollywood .. movies to your children … already. Damn, what does it take, people? Stop being naive. Stop trusting that maybe THIS movie or show isn’t so bad. Just stop.

    I agree totally but you’re wasting your time. They’ll keep lining up to give their money to Disney so Disney can make more anti-civilisational movies.

    There’s just no way to get through to people that all modern pop culture, including all TV and all Hollywood movies, is not just awful but actively evil.

    And they’ll keep exposing their kids to this cultural poison.

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    I'm pretty sure you're trolling, but I'll bite:

    Let's start with Netflix's The Crown. How is it "evil"?
    , @Wyatt Pendleton
    Of course, they will continue to tithe to Hellywood! That is their GOD, their IDOL, their DESTINY!

    The Christian God has been told to go fuck off and die. Man is in charge now. GIVE US BARABBAS! LEAD US INTO TEMPTATION! DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION! WE ARE THE CULT OF PERSONALITY! DO NOT JUDGE US! OUR CHILDREN FOR PLEASURE!

    And if you're a Christian: YOU INTERFERE WITH OUR WORSHIP AND YOU'RE GONNA WISH YOU WERE DEAD.

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  103. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially
     
    Too smart, too complex. They used to, however, produce wonderful TV Series such as The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits, even more recent The Fringe was world-class (well, J.J. Abrams, after all). The rest today is a cultural propaganda. Really sad. I am forced, however, to single out: Interstellar, Arrival (with Amy Adams) and, of course, WALL-E as stand alone masterpieces. Even Oblivion was not bad. But they were nowhere near in prominence (with the exception of WALL-E) with such vomit-inducing crap like the Hunger Games or Divergent or Star Wars--you name it. The whole premise of the Hunger Games is altogether--a mindless contrived lunacy. The excellent Snowpiercer is altogether a Korean-Czech movie.

    Too smart, too complex. They used to, however, produce wonderful TV Series such as The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits

    The Outer Limits was superb. The Twilight Zone on the other hand was non-stop relentless (and incredibly clumsy) liberal propaganda.

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  104. Dumbo says:

    In the end, I think that “The Last Jedi” is just a big FUCK YOU from Millenials to Boomers. It is really the only thing that makes sense.

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  105. Mike_SMO says:

    Wow! This long line of blather harkens back to yesteryear in the dorms. ll this needs is all-night bridge games going on in the background and the smell of spilled “Southern Comfort”.

    The current SW trend is pure cultural-Marxism allied with Anarchism, “Trotskyism of the Stars”. Minorities and women would be in control of everything except for the rampant sexism and racism of white male culture. All people are equally capable and thus the inability of women and some minorities to be successful and powerful is due to the evil powers of the “Patriarchy” (The Empire and the allied elitist Jedi Knights). The Empire (modern mass military and industry, maybe Russia) and the Jedi (an educated, disciplined elite, maybe the modern “West”) are both equally enemies that must be destroyed. The character of the Darth One shows that “they” are all “in it together”. The un-educated, un-disciplined, un-organized no-bodies (the “proletariat”) can over-throw all of the ruling elites through spunk and courage. No special skills or intelligence are required.

    The newer SW plot line is all SJW cultural-Marxist fantasy with zoomy special effects. We’d be “Kangs” if the “Man”, or the “Men” (The “System”), were not holding “us” down.

    Perhaps the next SW propaganda issue will deal with the “Cornell Effect”. That phenomenon illustrates the intricate and devious force of patriarchal systemic “racism” that only seems to debilitate American Black students while African & Jamacian Black students “flourish” in the same adversarial force-field. Now that is truely a mystery of the “Force” that will require the entire rainbow to defeat. Maybe there will be protective doses of “spice” to immunize the “faithful feckless” against this insideous patriarical evil.

    Maybe just cases of “Southern Comfort” (and lots of acetaminophen).

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  106. @Andrei Martyanov

    many films which form the archetypes for many Hollywood plots anyway
     
    Star Wars is a bastardization of Herbert's Dune, from the so called "Force" being a pathetic pseudo-religious derivative of the Weirding Way, as an example, to the whole geopolitical concept. Granted, of course, that Frank Herbert's son, grossly under-talented when compared to his father bastardized Dune sequels and turned them into...Star Wars. No surprise when one of his collaborators is the guy who writes this Star Wars tedious crap. Watching warfare in SW is altogether a very painful tactical and operational experience, the same goes to their combat technology, especially a ground one--I guess this technology was conceived by creators of F-35 and Littoral Combat Ships. Today's Hollywood is a sewer, it is over for them, bar some once in a while gems accidentally produced under the radar of their cultural and social perversion.

    Dune may have influenced SW a bit, but the main influence was an old Japanese movie called The Hidden Fortress: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hidden_Fortress#Influence

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  107. @Lana Kane
    "Spice prolonged life and intensified psychic abilities. It was necessary for the Mentats who performed a service called “folding space” (the Holtzman effect) which enabled multi-light year space trips in very little actual time."

    The Guild Navigators (seriously mutated humans) performed the foldspace navigation schtick, and spice was the key to their talent; the mentats were human calculators that performed the functions of (outlawed) electronic computers. I don`t recall that spice was necessary for them to do that, in fact I think Herbert`s main theme in Dune is that humans have vast untapped mental and physical potential that can be released through proper training and the therapeutic use of psychedelic drugs (definitely a reflection of the times in which he was writing; late 60s through the early eighties).

    It`s so sad that I know all of that.

    It`s so sad that I know all of that.

    What’s sad is that so few of the educated know.

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  108. AndrewR says:
    @dfordoom

    Stop .. showing … ANY … Hollywood .. movies to your children … already. Damn, what does it take, people? Stop being naive. Stop trusting that maybe THIS movie or show isn’t so bad. Just stop.
     
    I agree totally but you're wasting your time. They'll keep lining up to give their money to Disney so Disney can make more anti-civilisational movies.

    There's just no way to get through to people that all modern pop culture, including all TV and all Hollywood movies, is not just awful but actively evil.

    And they'll keep exposing their kids to this cultural poison.

    I’m pretty sure you’re trolling, but I’ll bite:

    Let’s start with Netflix’s The Crown. How is it “evil”?

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  109. AndrewR says:
    @attilathehen
    The degeneracy of the multi-culti, feminazi, anti-white nonsense of these Star Wars movies can be laid at the feet of George Lucas (a WASP). He is currently married to a negress and has black offspring. He is happy to go along with these changes to the Star Wars movies because he needs movies to which his black offspring can relate. The 1977 Star Wars doesn't even exist in Lucas's mind anymore because he knows his black offspring would not like it. His movie "American Graffiti" was a tribute to his 1950's all American upbringing in Modesto, California. I'm sure he now looks back with regret at that all white, wholesome time in the USA. He's getting jiggy with it.

    He's another version of the WASP John Derbyshire who married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/
    In this article Derbyshire states: We can’t make whites as smart as East Asians. He has chosen the Chinese side as Lucas has chosen the negroid side. They believe blacks/Asians are smarter than Caucasians. They are not.

    'Groid/gloid lover (((Stefan Molyneux))) is just spouting his usual white man schtick to keep the shekels dropping in his tin cup. His mother was a German Jewess who fled Germany when Hitler took over. (((Molyneux))) been's doing several youtubes about endangered white males and how females are the cause of the problems in the West. Yet, he bawls for Venezuela (an over 80% nonwhite country with an average IQ of 84), the people are starving, women are selling their bodies, yada yada yada https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaScH2ucDOA

    He thinks the Chinese are smarter than Caucasians. See the 14:35 mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egYfNtx9f1g He believes the only way for the West to survive is to do what Jews have done. See 56 minute mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FduYWW-7cEM

    You can't blame the Jews for Lucas and Derbyshire. (((Molyneux))) just does what he does because he's Jewish.

    You are either an anti-white troll trying to make pro-white people look bad, or you are a textbook example of the type of person who repels people towards the anti-white agenda. If most white people were like you then I’d be anti-white too.

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    Another cuck who has problems with facts. There's been a lot of going back and forth about why Star Wars degenerated. Simple reason: George Lucas married a negress and has black offspring. If you did not know this, but now you do, and you cannot figure it out logically, you are the problem.

    Derbyshire has explicitly stated that Asians are superior to Caucasians. If that isn't an in your face anti-white statement, I don't know what is. Other commentators get angry because I point out these things. They believe wives, offspring do not matter. Pure degeneracy and madness!!!

    Groid/gloid lover (((Molyneux))) consistently states in his podcasts that Jews and Asians are superior to Caucasians. And he wants us to be like Jews to survive! WOW!!!

    Methinks there is something in your background that is causing these problems. You're playing the Hitler card. I always use the word Caucasian because many whites do not fit the blond, blue-eyed Hitler archetype. There have other commentators who come with idiotic statements about Italians, Greeks, the Irish. A Caucasian movement means no blacks/Asians/Jews -easily identified peoples. I don't go believe most of that DNA stuff. Some guy Lee Rogers with the Daily Stormer got his results and he's 0.5% Jewish. This is meaningless. You have to look at parentage. Today with modern medicine, blood transfusions and organ and tissue transplants can alter DNA. Yes, there is a racial aspect to blood. But if your life is in danger and you need these things to survive you will accept them.

    We know that George Lucas, John Derbyshire cannot be a part of any white movements. They have chosen sides and so have their offspring. Derbyshire's Chinese wife and daughter voted for Obama. He's infamous for being fired from National Review for his article about The Talk concerning blacks as friends. Obviously, his wife and daughter ignored him about this. Even though Lucas no longer controls Star Wars, he is happy with the new results. I see no reason for Derbyshire to waste time scribbling.

    You are the problem.
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  110. AndrewR says:
    @Expletive Deleted
    You and I might well fall out.
    His father, and my mother, are some kind of cousin. Althought the titles went extinct in the '70s, they were close friends of Edward and the American Woman, and lost favour after the War due to fashy opinions and lack of heirs (made the Kents look like hippies).
    Young Stef there is I think more of the Calais/Irish line, rather than Sefton (& Croxteth), but it's still, what, 952 years since they sauntered into the island?

    By the way, he looks right, nasty goat beard and baldy head and all. All my male (and possibly some female ..) cousins on that side have 'that look'.
    Who gives a flying fuck who his mam was? Azure a cross moline or. Women count for nothing, and the sooner you understand that, the happier you'll die.
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    Why treat him as someone worthy of earnestly engaging with?

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    It's occasionally amusing to estimate how much of this sort of creature's worthless existence is bound up with obsessively spamming every comment thread available with "challenging" contrarianism and plain autistic screeching. "Cuck" is quite telling, seems to weigh heavily on its mind. Never crosses mine.
    It's a full-time occupation for some of these harmless, purposeless shut-ins. The key indicator is they never, ever supply genuine, verifiable information for the wider edification of the laity. Screech screech screechity screech. I imagine it's supposed to be intimidating, or humiliating or whatever. Like a spoiled toddler. Effing hilarious.

    Do it again, my little hen. Please. Stamp your tiny foot.
    It's not as though you've got anything else going on.

    , @attilathehen
    One more thing, I'm a girl.
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  111. @AndrewR
    Why treat him as someone worthy of earnestly engaging with?

    It’s occasionally amusing to estimate how much of this sort of creature’s worthless existence is bound up with obsessively spamming every comment thread available with “challenging” contrarianism and plain autistic screeching. “Cuck” is quite telling, seems to weigh heavily on its mind. Never crosses mine.
    It’s a full-time occupation for some of these harmless, purposeless shut-ins. The key indicator is they never, ever supply genuine, verifiable information for the wider edification of the laity. Screech screech screechity screech. I imagine it’s supposed to be intimidating, or humiliating or whatever. Like a spoiled toddler. Effing hilarious.

    Do it again, my little hen. Please. Stamp your tiny foot.
    It’s not as though you’ve got anything else going on.

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  112. El Dato says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    I can't claim to have ever really liked Star Wars. In retrospect, the only thing good about the original trilogy was the time of my life it came out in. I was a kid then, and happier. That's about it.

    But I remember being very strongly affected by David Lynch's Dune. I first saw it when I was about 7 years old, I think, one evening when my parents and a whole entourage from our church were meeting in the home of some associates of theirs in a neighboring city (I recall the drive there and back being interminable).

    I was running around outside, doing damage and getting into trouble as usual, so after the perfunctory beatings from my father, his more enlightened, upper class hosts decided to sit me down with a good movie to keep me occupied.

    That movie happened to be Dune. I don't know if they owned it or if it was being shown on cable or what, but it was the Alan Smithee cut, the full 3-hour extravaganza. Now, we didn't have a television in our house when I was a kid, so just getting to watch a movie was something of a treat in itself. But getting to watch Dune at just that particular time in my life under just those circumstances was nothing short of a divine gift. More than the story itself (which I admittedly was unable to follow at that young age) was the general atmosphere, that curious mix of science, philosophy, and mysticism which seemed to hold endless wonders and conceal endless secrets. It resonated with me very profoundly.

    Quite. It seems to be the desert that gives rise to mysticism in general. Hey we got a couple of testaments and Castaneda’s Peyotle-fuelled trips from it.

    Moebius on his desert experiences:

    I first saw it when I was about 7 years old, I think

    This is mental abuse of minors.

    At 15, the Lnychian Baron’s sad predilection for screaming, power play, terror, blood and getting off at snuffing boys was enough for a couple of months.

    Also:

    David Lynch’s Dune is What You Get When You Build a Science Fictional World With No Interest in Science Fiction

    In the distilling of the plot, every other branch of the story becomes superfluous—and many of the characters do too. This results in the Harkonnens doing nothing in the film besides being despicable to the grandest extremes Lynch can summon. Forget any semblance of intelligence and scheming, the Baron Harkonnen has been reduced to a rabid dog of a man who screams and spins and bounces to and fro like a punctured balloon. The movie also has the distinction of branding the character in an explicitly homophobic light by heightening the Baron’s actions and displaying them all at once: in a single scene we watch the man have his facial sores drained by a doctor (which gay writer Dennis Altman has pointed out appears to be part of the pervasive AIDS imagery that suffused pop culture in the 80s) before abruptly sexually assaulting and brutally murdering a young male servant, bleeding him out while his relatives observe. The choice to connect these moments visually in one savage blow cannot be overlooked or underestimated… particularly when the very next scene shows a flash of Lady Jessica and Duke Leto making love. It is a very literal Point-A-to-Point-B association of homosexuality with perversion, violence, and sickness, contrasted immediately with heterosexuality signifying loving, caring bonds and relationships.

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  113. El Dato says:

    A review with obligatory moan in the “The Jewish Review of Books”:

    Jews of Dune

    But the flip side of this denigration of the Jews as a “fossil-people” is a Christian anxiety that the Jews—who claim biological kinship with the patriarchs, prophets, and messiah—naturally possess that with which Christians have a more uncertain relationship. Herbert’s Dune novels are all animated by the conviction that the truth is in our genes. The problem Jews pose for Hebert, then, is not that they are unnecessary to his fictional universe, but that they appear to anticipate it because of their familial, corporeal relationship with the divine. At one point, a Bene Gesserit member remarks: “Jews are amused and sometimes dismayed at what they interpret as our copying them. Our breeding records dominated by the female line to control the mating pattern are seen as Jewish.” There appears to be a kind of theological resentment at work.

    Also, my posting resistance is low:

    Bene Gesserit witches fixing Paul Atreides. No wait, that’s another story….

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    The Cherokee Tribe also tied their breeding records to the female likely thousands of years prior to the Jews becoming a tribe. So? Did the Jews copy the Amerind? Who's on first?
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  114. @AndrewR
    You are either an anti-white troll trying to make pro-white people look bad, or you are a textbook example of the type of person who repels people towards the anti-white agenda. If most white people were like you then I'd be anti-white too.

    Another cuck who has problems with facts. There’s been a lot of going back and forth about why Star Wars degenerated. Simple reason: George Lucas married a negress and has black offspring. If you did not know this, but now you do, and you cannot figure it out logically, you are the problem.

    Derbyshire has explicitly stated that Asians are superior to Caucasians. If that isn’t an in your face anti-white statement, I don’t know what is. Other commentators get angry because I point out these things. They believe wives, offspring do not matter. Pure degeneracy and madness!!!

    Groid/gloid lover (((Molyneux))) consistently states in his podcasts that Jews and Asians are superior to Caucasians. And he wants us to be like Jews to survive! WOW!!!

    Methinks there is something in your background that is causing these problems. You’re playing the Hitler card. I always use the word Caucasian because many whites do not fit the blond, blue-eyed Hitler archetype. There have other commentators who come with idiotic statements about Italians, Greeks, the Irish. A Caucasian movement means no blacks/Asians/Jews -easily identified peoples. I don’t go believe most of that DNA stuff. Some guy Lee Rogers with the Daily Stormer got his results and he’s 0.5% Jewish. This is meaningless. You have to look at parentage. Today with modern medicine, blood transfusions and organ and tissue transplants can alter DNA. Yes, there is a racial aspect to blood. But if your life is in danger and you need these things to survive you will accept them.

    We know that George Lucas, John Derbyshire cannot be a part of any white movements. They have chosen sides and so have their offspring. Derbyshire’s Chinese wife and daughter voted for Obama. He’s infamous for being fired from National Review for his article about The Talk concerning blacks as friends. Obviously, his wife and daughter ignored him about this. Even though Lucas no longer controls Star Wars, he is happy with the new results. I see no reason for Derbyshire to waste time scribbling.

    You are the problem.

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  115. @dfordoom

    Stop .. showing … ANY … Hollywood .. movies to your children … already. Damn, what does it take, people? Stop being naive. Stop trusting that maybe THIS movie or show isn’t so bad. Just stop.
     
    I agree totally but you're wasting your time. They'll keep lining up to give their money to Disney so Disney can make more anti-civilisational movies.

    There's just no way to get through to people that all modern pop culture, including all TV and all Hollywood movies, is not just awful but actively evil.

    And they'll keep exposing their kids to this cultural poison.

    Of course, they will continue to tithe to Hellywood! That is their GOD, their IDOL, their DESTINY!

    The Christian God has been told to go fuck off and die. Man is in charge now. GIVE US BARABBAS! LEAD US INTO TEMPTATION! DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION! WE ARE THE CULT OF PERSONALITY! DO NOT JUDGE US! OUR CHILDREN FOR PLEASURE!

    And if you’re a Christian: YOU INTERFERE WITH OUR WORSHIP AND YOU’RE GONNA WISH YOU WERE DEAD.

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  116. Did not bother with the latest Star Wars flick as I had heard about the agenda creep that overtook the story line.

    I did go to see Murder on the Orient Express. The Zionist Agenda has not overtaken this ancient tale as yet, but, the ticket for two cost more on my first trip on the Orient Express in 1955, Second Class from Salzburg to Vienna. Matter of fact, the seven dolor something price for a small bag of popcorn could have cost even more as I forget the actual Austrian Shilling price of the Reise. (Trip)

    I did ride the club car for most of the trip and enjoyed it immensely. Couldn’t say as much for the movie.

    The Jewish agenda has certainly overtaken the cost of going to a movie as I hear, for a family of four it can top $100.00. Screwum. I’ll read a good book from the public library written by a Conservative White Author.

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  117. @El Dato
    A review with obligatory moan in the "The Jewish Review of Books":

    Jews of Dune

    But the flip side of this denigration of the Jews as a “fossil-people” is a Christian anxiety that the Jews—who claim biological kinship with the patriarchs, prophets, and messiah—naturally possess that with which Christians have a more uncertain relationship. Herbert’s Dune novels are all animated by the conviction that the truth is in our genes. The problem Jews pose for Hebert, then, is not that they are unnecessary to his fictional universe, but that they appear to anticipate it because of their familial, corporeal relationship with the divine. At one point, a Bene Gesserit member remarks: “Jews are amused and sometimes dismayed at what they interpret as our copying them. Our breeding records dominated by the female line to control the mating pattern are seen as Jewish.” There appears to be a kind of theological resentment at work.
     
    Also, my posting resistance is low:

    Bene Gesserit witches fixing Paul Atreides. No wait, that's another story....

    https://youtu.be/aGQrnKcH-74?t=114

    The Cherokee Tribe also tied their breeding records to the female likely thousands of years prior to the Jews becoming a tribe. So? Did the Jews copy the Amerind? Who’s on first?

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  118. @AndrewR
    Why treat him as someone worthy of earnestly engaging with?

    One more thing, I’m a girl.

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  119. Jaylon says:

    Lol, so funny to read an article of a white guy whining abount a movie that “portrayed white guys as bad guys”. Dude, where were you when literally many or most hollywood movies portrayed chinese, mexican, japanese, or koreans as all bad guys. Just make me laugh.

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  120. unit472 says:

    I’ve never seen a Star War’s movie but I recall at the dawn of Star Wars the world’s biggest movie star was Clint Eastwood. In fact, Richard Grenier wrote a piece, I think for Commentary, with that exact title. He was not the ‘kinder gentler’ Clint Eastwood of the post Reagan era movies either but the original ‘Man with No Name’ version unless he was portraying the fascist cop Dirty Harry!

    Hollywood doesn’t make those kind of movies anymore. I saw an advertisement masquerading as a news story yesterday showing trailers of upcoming films. It was all CGI and Third World characters with the occasional celebrity ( hello Oprah) posing as actors. I’ll see none of this trash either.

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  121. Che Guava says:
    @wayfarer
    2018, year of the “earth dog.”

    Let's hope it's a good one, for all.

    source: https://www.thechinesezodiac.org/horoscope-2018/

    http://www.cutenessoverflow.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/African-wild-dog-puppies.jpg

    Good for you to knowing re five-elements combo.

    I am very dubious of these forms of divination, but the Chinese one has good symbolism in that nobody is living through the combination of animal and element at time of birth more than twice.

    In Japan, we also have a six-day cycle, and a system of unlucky years, among others, those mainly from elsewhere.

    Last night in Tokyo, clear sky and full moon on the night of New Year’s Day, am thinking that is auspicious.

    However, almost no stars as always. Full moon + light pollution = even fewer visible stars and planets, even on a crystalline night.

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  122. @Ali Choudhury
    I don't care much for the new Star Wars movies due to the poverty of ideas and blatant rehashing they represent, but I can't see them as anti-white movies. The most prominent, competent and powerful characters are white: Luke, Leia, Rey, Kylo, Hux, Poe Dameron (looks like he has mostly Euro ancestry) and Laura Dern's character. The two major non-white main characters Finn and Rose go on a pointless wild goose chase and avoiding spoilers, screw thing up majorly.

    Disney's second highest grosser Beauty and the Beast had minimal non-white participation and the Marvel movies overwhelmingly have white males as the superheroic leads.

    I do absolutely believe that the Real Top Hebrews at the mouse company (and the shlubs who write for them) deliberately tried to make this an anti white male movie, but in order for it to work you still have to know how to write a freaking story. Instead we got a multicult fairy tale where the rainbow coalition screws up everything they touch; the “Resistance” are actually the military of the government that’s been in power for 40 years and are getting their asses kicked by the lily white insurgents of the FO; and the only reason any of them survive at all is because an old white man comes out of retirement to save them.

    Basically, it’s an SJW epic fail.

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    I got the impression as I sat there that, unlike most crimes, there was very little evidence of a "controlling mind".

    I wouldn't be surprised to discover that the whole storyline was written by committee. If that committee had turned up late, stuck their feet on the giant boardroom table, and decided the first move was to start knocking back cocktails, while the "scriptwriter" was in the toilet nervously waiting for them to each turn out a random ten pages on anything that came into their heads.

    What was that [giant floppy animals and casino] episode about, for starters? Relevance to anything else? Apart from the unpleasant little moppet with the Ring shoehorned in at the end, for a "same time next week folks" continuity moment.
    Or the Pit of Darkside well-thing on the skellig. Its part got built up impressively before Mary-Sue decides to pop into it for a nosey, wrinkles her nose at the wallpaper and hangings, and wanders out again unscathed, with nobody any the wiser as to its purpose. Was it supposed to demonstrate the banality of evil?
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  123. @Avis McAdoo
    I do absolutely believe that the Real Top Hebrews at the mouse company (and the shlubs who write for them) deliberately tried to make this an anti white male movie, but in order for it to work you still have to know how to write a freaking story. Instead we got a multicult fairy tale where the rainbow coalition screws up everything they touch; the "Resistance" are actually the military of the government that's been in power for 40 years and are getting their asses kicked by the lily white insurgents of the FO; and the only reason any of them survive at all is because an old white man comes out of retirement to save them.

    Basically, it's an SJW epic fail.

    I got the impression as I sat there that, unlike most crimes, there was very little evidence of a “controlling mind”.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to discover that the whole storyline was written by committee. If that committee had turned up late, stuck their feet on the giant boardroom table, and decided the first move was to start knocking back cocktails, while the “scriptwriter” was in the toilet nervously waiting for them to each turn out a random ten pages on anything that came into their heads.

    What was that [giant floppy animals and casino] episode about, for starters? Relevance to anything else? Apart from the unpleasant little moppet with the Ring shoehorned in at the end, for a “same time next week folks” continuity moment.
    Or the Pit of Darkside well-thing on the skellig. Its part got built up impressively before Mary-Sue decides to pop into it for a nosey, wrinkles her nose at the wallpaper and hangings, and wanders out again unscathed, with nobody any the wiser as to its purpose. Was it supposed to demonstrate the banality of evil?

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  124. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I agree that Hollywood has an agenda , but this article and some comments here are clutching at straws. The hero in this movie is a white girl , how is this movie anti white. SPOILER The future hero is a young white boy ( shown at end ). The black and Asian girl were a sideshow. The other hero of the movie was POE a white male. I think that many here won’t watch the movie and just accept this crazy article

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    Look at this flagrantly dishonest comment and understand that paid trolling ("content" and "perception management") is real and it sure as hell does not come from Russia.
    , @Gleimhart
    Everyone's wrong but you!
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  125. My Gen Z kid said that he didn’t like TLJ because it seemed made for adults.

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  126. J.Ross says: • Website
    @El Dato
    Don't worry about it.

    Also I really can't agree that Lynch's vision is outstanding. It has is Lynchian charms but it has not that much to do with "Dune" and additionally Lunch murders the whole structure in the final scene as if with a final, bad joke. Yes, making it magically rain on Arrakis will KILL THE SPICE and thus Paul's empire, dead.

    … but that’s what happens anyway, and Paul has evolved even beyond the level of Stage Threes, so it’s the paradigm shift (you only need spice by the ton if you’re relying on the Guild, abd you’re relying on the Guild because the Sleeper has not yet awakened). I have yet to see a good takedown of Lynch’s Dune. It and Flash Gordon have surpassed and survived all the more-successful flotsam of that era.
    Don’t want to get into fanboyism.
    I have a certain under-nourished thesis about establishmentarian propaganda getting smarter. Emotional arguing has surpassed all other polemical formats without detection. Fiction allows the creator to make a whole world in which their enemies really are the straw man caricatures portrayed, supported now by in-world logic and histories and therefore made “reasonable.” It distresses me to come out of the Gen X hyper media awareness of Max Headroom and Neil Postman and see people falling for this literally Bolshevik small beer.
    Quick, remember the movies Blow, Trainspotting and the shoved-in DEA sequence from the Limey, and identify a cop acting less than perfectly professionally. They’re episodes of Dragnet with porn and cursing and good soundtracks distracting you from how square they are. An authentically countercultural movie about the drug war would surely at least remark on the drug war being fake or police corruption.
    Similarly with a lot of SJW-addled Hollywood products, they’re massively, clumsily, unapologetically propagandistic, but with such deep immersion into their worldview that a mistaken denial is possible. People are still thinking about propaganda in terms of Frank Capra or The FBI Story, which was a very honest and straightforward exposition: nothing is being snuck in, it’s slapping your forehead. Instead we should consider the unapologetic one-sidedness of American Vietnam flicks, or the Israeli movie Siege (or They Were Ten, or Hill 24 Doesn’t Answer). All the arguing is emotional and so largely invisibile to folks who should know better.

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    Emotional arguing has surpassed all other polemical formats without detection.
     
    It works because emotional arguments are difficult to oppose. People don't want to try to understand complex problems. They want to believe that there's always a simple answer that they can find merely by consulting their feelings. If it feels right then it must be right. This applies especially to women.

    If you try to oppose an emotional argument with facts or logic they just switch off. If you try to oppose an emotional argument with other emotional arguments it upsets them and they assume you're just mean and nasty. You must be a hater.
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  127. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anon
    I agree that Hollywood has an agenda , but this article and some comments here are clutching at straws. The hero in this movie is a white girl , how is this movie anti white. SPOILER The future hero is a young white boy ( shown at end ). The black and Asian girl were a sideshow. The other hero of the movie was POE a white male. I think that many here won’t watch the movie and just accept this crazy article

    Look at this flagrantly dishonest comment and understand that paid trolling (“content” and “perception management”) is real and it sure as hell does not come from Russia.

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  128. Gene Su says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Interestingly, they do not even try to make movies based upon Azimov especially
     
    Too smart, too complex. They used to, however, produce wonderful TV Series such as The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits, even more recent The Fringe was world-class (well, J.J. Abrams, after all). The rest today is a cultural propaganda. Really sad. I am forced, however, to single out: Interstellar, Arrival (with Amy Adams) and, of course, WALL-E as stand alone masterpieces. Even Oblivion was not bad. But they were nowhere near in prominence (with the exception of WALL-E) with such vomit-inducing crap like the Hunger Games or Divergent or Star Wars--you name it. The whole premise of the Hunger Games is altogether--a mindless contrived lunacy. The excellent Snowpiercer is altogether a Korean-Czech movie.

    Too much literature and drama in the twentieth century has been lobotomized. It even started earlier with “A Wrinkle in Time” (now being made into another Disney movie). Plot centered around a sister using her “love” to reach out to her brainwashed brother. Maybe that’s where JK Rowling got the plot for “Harry Potter” from.

    But I think I know the real reason why “dumbed down” literature and stories like “Star Wars”, “A Wrinkle in Time”, and “Star Trek” (which relies on too much technobabble to solve every problem miraculously painlessly) appear to so many modern humans (and particularly modern Westerners). It is not just our decreasing standards of education. We live in a very stressed out world. Our lives are constantly on the go. We have no chance to relax. It is also the reason why mindless entertainment like football and “pro rassling” appeals to us. Linh Dinh wrote an excellent essay on this a year ago. This applies also to the poorest among us (or maybe especially the poorest among us?).

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    Most of Hairy Porter was ripped unashamedly from Neil (((Gaiman))). Who is rich and talented enough to not give a monkey's about fan-fic like that, and has been quoted saying as much.
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  129. Gene Su says:
    @Z-man
    Walt Disney is tuning in his grave.

    I heard that Disney might adapt the Tripod trilogy in the near future (White Mountains, City of Lead and Gold, Pool of Fire). I hope that they don’t mess that up. In particular, the protagonists are supposed to be 3 European white boys. I hope they don’t change that. I note that that fine piece of literature was written by a Brit, not an American.

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  130. Gene Su says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    many films which form the archetypes for many Hollywood plots anyway
     
    Star Wars is a bastardization of Herbert's Dune, from the so called "Force" being a pathetic pseudo-religious derivative of the Weirding Way, as an example, to the whole geopolitical concept. Granted, of course, that Frank Herbert's son, grossly under-talented when compared to his father bastardized Dune sequels and turned them into...Star Wars. No surprise when one of his collaborators is the guy who writes this Star Wars tedious crap. Watching warfare in SW is altogether a very painful tactical and operational experience, the same goes to their combat technology, especially a ground one--I guess this technology was conceived by creators of F-35 and Littoral Combat Ships. Today's Hollywood is a sewer, it is over for them, bar some once in a while gems accidentally produced under the radar of their cultural and social perversion.

    I read some of the Dune novels. They were OK.

    I think what George Lucas should have done was get one of his Expanded Universe writers to write the script for the prequels, particularly Revenge of the Script. It’s obvious that the man can’t write good dialogue for his life.

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  131. @Gene Su
    Too much literature and drama in the twentieth century has been lobotomized. It even started earlier with "A Wrinkle in Time" (now being made into another Disney movie). Plot centered around a sister using her "love" to reach out to her brainwashed brother. Maybe that's where JK Rowling got the plot for "Harry Potter" from.

    But I think I know the real reason why "dumbed down" literature and stories like "Star Wars", "A Wrinkle in Time", and "Star Trek" (which relies on too much technobabble to solve every problem miraculously painlessly) appear to so many modern humans (and particularly modern Westerners). It is not just our decreasing standards of education. We live in a very stressed out world. Our lives are constantly on the go. We have no chance to relax. It is also the reason why mindless entertainment like football and "pro rassling" appeals to us. Linh Dinh wrote an excellent essay on this a year ago. This applies also to the poorest among us (or maybe especially the poorest among us?).

    Most of Hairy Porter was ripped unashamedly from Neil (((Gaiman))). Who is rich and talented enough to not give a monkey’s about fan-fic like that, and has been quoted saying as much.

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  132. Gleimhart says:
    @Okechukwu
    Hehe. Another boycott, eh? Go ahead. Hollywood makes more money appealing to a normal, mainstream audience. They don't care about your faux boycotts.

    No one said anything about a boycott. The movies are simply losing their audience, and hundreds of millions of dollars are being left on the table in the form of ticket sales and the licensing of merchandising, and merchandising is the more lucrative revenue stream by far.

    For example, when the (((J.J. Abrams))) version came out a few years ago, stores had to send back the junk with the black guy on it, because no one was buying it. The girl character did a little better, but none of them sold anywhere near the product that Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo, and Darth Vader did.

    If you think corporations don’t care when they’re not making nearly as much money as they could, then you don’t know a bloody thing about corporations.

    Also, there’s no such thing as a “normal, mainstream audience.” That’s precisely the sort of thing that goes bye-bye when diversity is the order of the day.

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    stores had to send back the junk with the black guy on it, because no one was buying it
     
    Yeah - if you're gonna have a Black guy, make sure he's a smooth-talking, ladies' man, space pirate:
    http://www.finalfrontiertoys.com/starwars/star-wars-carded-figures-diecast/empire-strikes-back/esb-31-back-moc/lando-calrissian-esb-31-back-no-offer-moc-c-8-5.html

    Those did sell!

    Peace.
    , @Okechukwu

    No one said anything about a boycott. The movies are simply losing their audience, and hundreds of millions of dollars are being left on the table in the form of ticket sales and the licensing of merchandising, and merchandising is the more lucrative revenue stream by far.
     
    Get a clue. The movie made $1 billion dollars in about 30 minutes of its release.

    There is a large worldwide audience of sane, normal people that vastly outnumbers embittered and deluded white bigots. Any film appealing to the white supremacist constituency will be dead on arrival. Unz is an echo-chamber. Most of these people here would be too ashamed to utter their tripe except under the cloak of anonymity. Even the denizens of Unz wouldn't queue up to watch a film that depicts their wacky theories and beliefs.


    For example, when the (((J.J. Abrams))) version came out a few years ago, stores had to send back the junk with the black guy on it, because no one was buying it. The girl character did a little better, but none of them sold anywhere near the product that Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo, and Darth Vader did.
     
    I played with action figures as a kid. I had all kinds of other Star Wars gear and model space ships. I just don't think those things are in with today's kids. Kids today are more into a visual or video game experience, which they will play with for about a day and then abandon for something else.
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  133. Gleimhart says:
    @Anon
    I agree that Hollywood has an agenda , but this article and some comments here are clutching at straws. The hero in this movie is a white girl , how is this movie anti white. SPOILER The future hero is a young white boy ( shown at end ). The black and Asian girl were a sideshow. The other hero of the movie was POE a white male. I think that many here won’t watch the movie and just accept this crazy article

    Everyone’s wrong but you!

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  134. Talha says:
    @Gleimhart
    No one said anything about a boycott. The movies are simply losing their audience, and hundreds of millions of dollars are being left on the table in the form of ticket sales and the licensing of merchandising, and merchandising is the more lucrative revenue stream by far.

    For example, when the (((J.J. Abrams))) version came out a few years ago, stores had to send back the junk with the black guy on it, because no one was buying it. The girl character did a little better, but none of them sold anywhere near the product that Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo, and Darth Vader did.

    If you think corporations don't care when they're not making nearly as much money as they could, then you don't know a bloody thing about corporations.

    Also, there's no such thing as a "normal, mainstream audience." That's precisely the sort of thing that goes bye-bye when diversity is the order of the day.

    stores had to send back the junk with the black guy on it, because no one was buying it

    Yeah – if you’re gonna have a Black guy, make sure he’s a smooth-talking, ladies’ man, space pirate:

    http://www.finalfrontiertoys.com/starwars/star-wars-carded-figures-diecast/empire-strikes-back/esb-31-back-moc/lando-calrissian-esb-31-back-no-offer-moc-c-8-5.html

    Those did sell!

    Peace.

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  135. dfordoom says: • Website
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    ... but that's what happens anyway, and Paul has evolved even beyond the level of Stage Threes, so it's the paradigm shift (you only need spice by the ton if you're relying on the Guild, abd you're relying on the Guild because the Sleeper has not yet awakened). I have yet to see a good takedown of Lynch's Dune. It and Flash Gordon have surpassed and survived all the more-successful flotsam of that era.
    Don't want to get into fanboyism.
    I have a certain under-nourished thesis about establishmentarian propaganda getting smarter. Emotional arguing has surpassed all other polemical formats without detection. Fiction allows the creator to make a whole world in which their enemies really are the straw man caricatures portrayed, supported now by in-world logic and histories and therefore made "reasonable." It distresses me to come out of the Gen X hyper media awareness of Max Headroom and Neil Postman and see people falling for this literally Bolshevik small beer.
    Quick, remember the movies Blow, Trainspotting and the shoved-in DEA sequence from the Limey, and identify a cop acting less than perfectly professionally. They're episodes of Dragnet with porn and cursing and good soundtracks distracting you from how square they are. An authentically countercultural movie about the drug war would surely at least remark on the drug war being fake or police corruption.
    Similarly with a lot of SJW-addled Hollywood products, they're massively, clumsily, unapologetically propagandistic, but with such deep immersion into their worldview that a mistaken denial is possible. People are still thinking about propaganda in terms of Frank Capra or The FBI Story, which was a very honest and straightforward exposition: nothing is being snuck in, it's slapping your forehead. Instead we should consider the unapologetic one-sidedness of American Vietnam flicks, or the Israeli movie Siege (or They Were Ten, or Hill 24 Doesn't Answer). All the arguing is emotional and so largely invisibile to folks who should know better.

    Emotional arguing has surpassed all other polemical formats without detection.

    It works because emotional arguments are difficult to oppose. People don’t want to try to understand complex problems. They want to believe that there’s always a simple answer that they can find merely by consulting their feelings. If it feels right then it must be right. This applies especially to women.

    If you try to oppose an emotional argument with facts or logic they just switch off. If you try to oppose an emotional argument with other emotional arguments it upsets them and they assume you’re just mean and nasty. You must be a hater.

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  136. Okechukwu says:
    @Gleimhart
    No one said anything about a boycott. The movies are simply losing their audience, and hundreds of millions of dollars are being left on the table in the form of ticket sales and the licensing of merchandising, and merchandising is the more lucrative revenue stream by far.

    For example, when the (((J.J. Abrams))) version came out a few years ago, stores had to send back the junk with the black guy on it, because no one was buying it. The girl character did a little better, but none of them sold anywhere near the product that Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo, and Darth Vader did.

    If you think corporations don't care when they're not making nearly as much money as they could, then you don't know a bloody thing about corporations.

    Also, there's no such thing as a "normal, mainstream audience." That's precisely the sort of thing that goes bye-bye when diversity is the order of the day.

    No one said anything about a boycott. The movies are simply losing their audience, and hundreds of millions of dollars are being left on the table in the form of ticket sales and the licensing of merchandising, and merchandising is the more lucrative revenue stream by far.

    Get a clue. The movie made $1 billion dollars in about 30 minutes of its release.

    There is a large worldwide audience of sane, normal people that vastly outnumbers embittered and deluded white bigots. Any film appealing to the white supremacist constituency will be dead on arrival. Unz is an echo-chamber. Most of these people here would be too ashamed to utter their tripe except under the cloak of anonymity. Even the denizens of Unz wouldn’t queue up to watch a film that depicts their wacky theories and beliefs.

    For example, when the (((J.J. Abrams))) version came out a few years ago, stores had to send back the junk with the black guy on it, because no one was buying it. The girl character did a little better, but none of them sold anywhere near the product that Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo, and Darth Vader did.

    I played with action figures as a kid. I had all kinds of other Star Wars gear and model space ships. I just don’t think those things are in with today’s kids. Kids today are more into a visual or video game experience, which they will play with for about a day and then abandon for something else.

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    "There is a large worldwide audience of sane, normal people that vastly outnumbers embittered and deluded white bigots. Any film appealing to the white supremacist constituency will be dead on arrival. Unz is an echo-chamber. Most of these people here would be too ashamed to utter their tripe except under the cloak of anonymity."

    I don't think whites who want to see their group portrayed positively in film and other media are necessarily bigots or white supremacists. And while it is true that the dominant leftist, anti-white culture in much of the world means that the film will be popular and that people will be hesitant to share pro-white views in public, cultural dominance is not the same as moral vindication. For example, those who opposed the Nazis in Hitler's Germany, or the Communists in Stalin's Russia or Mao's China may have been at odds with the dominant culture and unwilling to discuss their views in public; that certainly doesn't make those regimes morally justifiable or their opponents detestable.
    , @Anon
    "I played with action figures as a kid. I had all kinds of other Star Wars gear and model space ships. I just don’t think those things are in with today’s kids."

    1. These items are still very profitable.

    2. We're not just talking about toys but about a variety of other merchandise - everything from lunchboxes and t-shirts to specialty food items.

    3. Several PC video games have tanked in the last few years, so there is reason to suspect that the same would happen with this market.

    , @Anon
    "Get a clue. The movie made $1 billion dollars in about 30 minutes of its release."

    Perhaps you should. This movie will make nowhere near that in profit (see above). It has also significantly underperformed the last one both domestically and overseas. Apparently, there is less of a huge global market for this kind of thing than you think; I believe it peaked at #4 in South Korea.
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  137. PDUDK says:

    Well if I remember correctly, the stormtroopers are clones, so if the guy that left them because of his conscious in “force awakens” is black, then 99% of all the bad guys are black.
    So this is actually a racist movie portraying black people as bad :)

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  138. Draje says:

    “11 writers and artists…”

    Ah, script-writing by committee. That explains the idiotic plot and bizarre character actions. Who voted for Luke to evaporate rather than fight?

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  139. jtl172 says:
    @Okechukwu

    No one said anything about a boycott. The movies are simply losing their audience, and hundreds of millions of dollars are being left on the table in the form of ticket sales and the licensing of merchandising, and merchandising is the more lucrative revenue stream by far.
     
    Get a clue. The movie made $1 billion dollars in about 30 minutes of its release.

    There is a large worldwide audience of sane, normal people that vastly outnumbers embittered and deluded white bigots. Any film appealing to the white supremacist constituency will be dead on arrival. Unz is an echo-chamber. Most of these people here would be too ashamed to utter their tripe except under the cloak of anonymity. Even the denizens of Unz wouldn't queue up to watch a film that depicts their wacky theories and beliefs.


    For example, when the (((J.J. Abrams))) version came out a few years ago, stores had to send back the junk with the black guy on it, because no one was buying it. The girl character did a little better, but none of them sold anywhere near the product that Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo, and Darth Vader did.
     
    I played with action figures as a kid. I had all kinds of other Star Wars gear and model space ships. I just don't think those things are in with today's kids. Kids today are more into a visual or video game experience, which they will play with for about a day and then abandon for something else.

    “There is a large worldwide audience of sane, normal people that vastly outnumbers embittered and deluded white bigots. Any film appealing to the white supremacist constituency will be dead on arrival. Unz is an echo-chamber. Most of these people here would be too ashamed to utter their tripe except under the cloak of anonymity.”

    I don’t think whites who want to see their group portrayed positively in film and other media are necessarily bigots or white supremacists. And while it is true that the dominant leftist, anti-white culture in much of the world means that the film will be popular and that people will be hesitant to share pro-white views in public, cultural dominance is not the same as moral vindication. For example, those who opposed the Nazis in Hitler’s Germany, or the Communists in Stalin’s Russia or Mao’s China may have been at odds with the dominant culture and unwilling to discuss their views in public; that certainly doesn’t make those regimes morally justifiable or their opponents detestable.

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    I don’t think whites who want to see their group portrayed positively in film and other media are necessarily bigots or white supremacists.
     
    Whites are not being portrayed negatively. White nationalists are wracked by a great many delusions and that's one of them. Arguably, men (men of all races) are portrayed somewhat negatively. But those portrayals are conceived, written, produced and executed by white men. I've been to YouTube and have seen the overtly sexist and misogynistic ways in which women used to be portrayed in commercials and old movies. Maybe the dumb, clumsy male character is a counter-reaction to that in the age of feminism.
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  140. Okechukwu says:
    @jtl172
    "There is a large worldwide audience of sane, normal people that vastly outnumbers embittered and deluded white bigots. Any film appealing to the white supremacist constituency will be dead on arrival. Unz is an echo-chamber. Most of these people here would be too ashamed to utter their tripe except under the cloak of anonymity."

    I don't think whites who want to see their group portrayed positively in film and other media are necessarily bigots or white supremacists. And while it is true that the dominant leftist, anti-white culture in much of the world means that the film will be popular and that people will be hesitant to share pro-white views in public, cultural dominance is not the same as moral vindication. For example, those who opposed the Nazis in Hitler's Germany, or the Communists in Stalin's Russia or Mao's China may have been at odds with the dominant culture and unwilling to discuss their views in public; that certainly doesn't make those regimes morally justifiable or their opponents detestable.

    I don’t think whites who want to see their group portrayed positively in film and other media are necessarily bigots or white supremacists.

    Whites are not being portrayed negatively. White nationalists are wracked by a great many delusions and that’s one of them. Arguably, men (men of all races) are portrayed somewhat negatively. But those portrayals are conceived, written, produced and executed by white men. I’ve been to YouTube and have seen the overtly sexist and misogynistic ways in which women used to be portrayed in commercials and old movies. Maybe the dumb, clumsy male character is a counter-reaction to that in the age of feminism.

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    "Whites are not being portrayed negatively."

    Is that why nearly all the bad guys are white? And didn't one of the writers of The Force Awakens claim that the First Order are "white supremacists"? It doesn't seem hard to draw that conclusion based on the evidence.
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  141. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    I don’t think whites who want to see their group portrayed positively in film and other media are necessarily bigots or white supremacists.
     
    Whites are not being portrayed negatively. White nationalists are wracked by a great many delusions and that's one of them. Arguably, men (men of all races) are portrayed somewhat negatively. But those portrayals are conceived, written, produced and executed by white men. I've been to YouTube and have seen the overtly sexist and misogynistic ways in which women used to be portrayed in commercials and old movies. Maybe the dumb, clumsy male character is a counter-reaction to that in the age of feminism.

    “Whites are not being portrayed negatively.”

    Is that why nearly all the bad guys are white? And didn’t one of the writers of The Force Awakens claim that the First Order are “white supremacists”? It doesn’t seem hard to draw that conclusion based on the evidence.

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    Didn't Morgan Freeman complain that he couldn't get roles as the villain because Hollywood won't show blacks in a negative light? Didn't he want to play the role of Hannibal Lecter?
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  142. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    No one said anything about a boycott. The movies are simply losing their audience, and hundreds of millions of dollars are being left on the table in the form of ticket sales and the licensing of merchandising, and merchandising is the more lucrative revenue stream by far.
     
    Get a clue. The movie made $1 billion dollars in about 30 minutes of its release.

    There is a large worldwide audience of sane, normal people that vastly outnumbers embittered and deluded white bigots. Any film appealing to the white supremacist constituency will be dead on arrival. Unz is an echo-chamber. Most of these people here would be too ashamed to utter their tripe except under the cloak of anonymity. Even the denizens of Unz wouldn't queue up to watch a film that depicts their wacky theories and beliefs.


    For example, when the (((J.J. Abrams))) version came out a few years ago, stores had to send back the junk with the black guy on it, because no one was buying it. The girl character did a little better, but none of them sold anywhere near the product that Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo, and Darth Vader did.
     
    I played with action figures as a kid. I had all kinds of other Star Wars gear and model space ships. I just don't think those things are in with today's kids. Kids today are more into a visual or video game experience, which they will play with for about a day and then abandon for something else.

    “I played with action figures as a kid. I had all kinds of other Star Wars gear and model space ships. I just don’t think those things are in with today’s kids.”

    1. These items are still very profitable.

    2. We’re not just talking about toys but about a variety of other merchandise – everything from lunchboxes and t-shirts to specialty food items.

    3. Several PC video games have tanked in the last few years, so there is reason to suspect that the same would happen with this market.

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  143. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    No one said anything about a boycott. The movies are simply losing their audience, and hundreds of millions of dollars are being left on the table in the form of ticket sales and the licensing of merchandising, and merchandising is the more lucrative revenue stream by far.
     
    Get a clue. The movie made $1 billion dollars in about 30 minutes of its release.

    There is a large worldwide audience of sane, normal people that vastly outnumbers embittered and deluded white bigots. Any film appealing to the white supremacist constituency will be dead on arrival. Unz is an echo-chamber. Most of these people here would be too ashamed to utter their tripe except under the cloak of anonymity. Even the denizens of Unz wouldn't queue up to watch a film that depicts their wacky theories and beliefs.


    For example, when the (((J.J. Abrams))) version came out a few years ago, stores had to send back the junk with the black guy on it, because no one was buying it. The girl character did a little better, but none of them sold anywhere near the product that Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo, and Darth Vader did.
     
    I played with action figures as a kid. I had all kinds of other Star Wars gear and model space ships. I just don't think those things are in with today's kids. Kids today are more into a visual or video game experience, which they will play with for about a day and then abandon for something else.

    “Get a clue. The movie made $1 billion dollars in about 30 minutes of its release.”

    Perhaps you should. This movie will make nowhere near that in profit (see above). It has also significantly underperformed the last one both domestically and overseas. Apparently, there is less of a huge global market for this kind of thing than you think; I believe it peaked at #4 in South Korea.

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  144. KenH says:

    Whites are not being portrayed negatively. White nationalists are wracked by a great many delusions and that’s one of them.

    Then you’re either not paying attention or in denial. For example, movies about black and white race relations almost always depict the whites as moral reprobates and just plain wrong while blacks are holier than thou, right and righteous. Rosewood, A Time to Kill , Selma, and Higher Learning are just a small sampling. The only good whites are those who don’t take their own side and help blacks. Blacks invariably triumph over the dastardly whites.

    Django Unchained is a pure anti-white snuff film. Hidden Figures was fabricated history about how black women wuz queens of the space program and showed those cracka ass white men a thing or two about advanced math. In reality they played a very minor, almost inconsequential role and some of them were so light skinned they could almost pass as white.

    But those portrayals are conceived, written, produced and executed by white men.

    More like Jewish men and Jews don’t consider themselves as white Europeans and from a genetic standpoint they clearly are not white European. With all the pro-black crap emanating from Hollywood these days Jewish Hollywood has taken sides and it isn’t with whites.

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    Set and match. :)
    , @Okechukwu

    Then you’re either not paying attention or in denial. For example, movies about black and white race relations almost always depict the whites as moral reprobates and just plain wrong while blacks are holier than thou, right and righteous. Rosewood, A Time to Kill , Selma, and Higher Learning are just a small sampling.
     
    These are historical films. How are you going to treat these periods without depicting white moral reprobates?

    The only good whites are those who don’t take their own side and help blacks
     
    There are only two choices in most films: good and evil. What you describe as not taking their own side is Hollywood trying to introduce good whites to counterbalance the evil ones, lest people go away thinking that all whites are evil. You cannot treat the klan or neo-nazis sympathetically. If that's what you want you might want to fly off to another planet.

    Django Unchained is a pure anti-white snuff film.
     
    It's a shame more of that didn't happen in real life. Nat Turner and John Brown were heroes. Interesting that you have nothing to say about the underlying slavery and brutality that motivated Django. The suffering of whites at the hands of Djando was a walk in the park compared to the real suffering of blacks.

    Hidden Figures was fabricated history about how black women wuz queens of the space program and showed those cracka ass white men a thing or two about advanced math.
     
    I'd rather take to word of the Smithsonian over a racist troll like you.

    The True Story of “Hidden Figures,” the Forgotten Black Women Who Helped Win the Space Race

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/forgotten-black-women-mathematicians-who-helped-win-wars-and-send-astronauts-space-180960393/


    More like Jewish men and Jews don’t consider themselves as white Europeans and from a genetic standpoint they clearly are not white European. With all the pro-black crap emanating from Hollywood these days Jewish Hollywood has taken sides and it isn’t with whites.
     
    Like virtually all white nationalists you are not in touch with reality whatsoever.
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  145. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    "Whites are not being portrayed negatively."

    Is that why nearly all the bad guys are white? And didn't one of the writers of The Force Awakens claim that the First Order are "white supremacists"? It doesn't seem hard to draw that conclusion based on the evidence.

    Didn’t Morgan Freeman complain that he couldn’t get roles as the villain because Hollywood won’t show blacks in a negative light? Didn’t he want to play the role of Hannibal Lecter?

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    I didn't watch this movie, but:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OKHAzr-riQ
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  146. Talha says:
    @anon
    Didn't Morgan Freeman complain that he couldn't get roles as the villain because Hollywood won't show blacks in a negative light? Didn't he want to play the role of Hannibal Lecter?

    I didn’t watch this movie, but:

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  147. grapesoda says:
    @KenH

    Whites are not being portrayed negatively. White nationalists are wracked by a great many delusions and that’s one of them.
     
    Then you're either not paying attention or in denial. For example, movies about black and white race relations almost always depict the whites as moral reprobates and just plain wrong while blacks are holier than thou, right and righteous. Rosewood, A Time to Kill , Selma, and Higher Learning are just a small sampling. The only good whites are those who don't take their own side and help blacks. Blacks invariably triumph over the dastardly whites.

    Django Unchained is a pure anti-white snuff film. Hidden Figures was fabricated history about how black women wuz queens of the space program and showed those cracka ass white men a thing or two about advanced math. In reality they played a very minor, almost inconsequential role and some of them were so light skinned they could almost pass as white.


    But those portrayals are conceived, written, produced and executed by white men.
     
    More like Jewish men and Jews don't consider themselves as white Europeans and from a genetic standpoint they clearly are not white European. With all the pro-black crap emanating from Hollywood these days Jewish Hollywood has taken sides and it isn't with whites.

    Set and match. :)

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  148. Okechukwu says:
    @KenH

    Whites are not being portrayed negatively. White nationalists are wracked by a great many delusions and that’s one of them.
     
    Then you're either not paying attention or in denial. For example, movies about black and white race relations almost always depict the whites as moral reprobates and just plain wrong while blacks are holier than thou, right and righteous. Rosewood, A Time to Kill , Selma, and Higher Learning are just a small sampling. The only good whites are those who don't take their own side and help blacks. Blacks invariably triumph over the dastardly whites.

    Django Unchained is a pure anti-white snuff film. Hidden Figures was fabricated history about how black women wuz queens of the space program and showed those cracka ass white men a thing or two about advanced math. In reality they played a very minor, almost inconsequential role and some of them were so light skinned they could almost pass as white.


    But those portrayals are conceived, written, produced and executed by white men.
     
    More like Jewish men and Jews don't consider themselves as white Europeans and from a genetic standpoint they clearly are not white European. With all the pro-black crap emanating from Hollywood these days Jewish Hollywood has taken sides and it isn't with whites.

    Then you’re either not paying attention or in denial. For example, movies about black and white race relations almost always depict the whites as moral reprobates and just plain wrong while blacks are holier than thou, right and righteous. Rosewood, A Time to Kill , Selma, and Higher Learning are just a small sampling.

    These are historical films. How are you going to treat these periods without depicting white moral reprobates?

    The only good whites are those who don’t take their own side and help blacks

    There are only two choices in most films: good and evil. What you describe as not taking their own side is Hollywood trying to introduce good whites to counterbalance the evil ones, lest people go away thinking that all whites are evil. You cannot treat the klan or neo-nazis sympathetically. If that’s what you want you might want to fly off to another planet.

    Django Unchained is a pure anti-white snuff film.

    It’s a shame more of that didn’t happen in real life. Nat Turner and John Brown were heroes. Interesting that you have nothing to say about the underlying slavery and brutality that motivated Django. The suffering of whites at the hands of Djando was a walk in the park compared to the real suffering of blacks.

    Hidden Figures was fabricated history about how black women wuz queens of the space program and showed those cracka ass white men a thing or two about advanced math.

    I’d rather take to word of the Smithsonian over a racist troll like you.

    The True Story of “Hidden Figures,” the Forgotten Black Women Who Helped Win the Space Race

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/forgotten-black-women-mathematicians-who-helped-win-wars-and-send-astronauts-space-180960393/

    More like Jewish men and Jews don’t consider themselves as white Europeans and from a genetic standpoint they clearly are not white European. With all the pro-black crap emanating from Hollywood these days Jewish Hollywood has taken sides and it isn’t with whites.

    Like virtually all white nationalists you are not in touch with reality whatsoever.

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    These are historical films. How are you going to treat these periods without depicting white moral reprobates?
     
    Whites who retaliated against blacks for depredations they committed against the white community or who take their own side in racial conflict are not moral reprobates. Using your logic any blacks who riot or attack and/or kill police or white citizens for largely imaginary wrongs are moral reprobates.

    Only Rosewood and Selma are based on actual historical events and they only tell the story from the malcontented negro point of view. In doing so they willfully left out facts which would cast blacks as less than the morally pure and righteous beings they are depicted as and that would put white attitudes and actions and the dynamic from that time into its proper context.

    There are only two choices in most films: good and evil.
     
    Assuming the films are works of fiction which offers greater latitude. In non-fiction there’s usually shades of gray and two sides that (((Hollywood))) often leaves out since they deal in anti-white propaganda, not genuine history, when it concerns the history of black and white race relations.

    What you describe as not taking their own side is Hollywood trying to introduce good whites to counterbalance the evil ones, lest people go away thinking that all whites are evil.
     
    If that’s the way you see things then what movies depict blacks as evil and their fellow blacks turning against their own race and aiding and abetting whites? Answer: none, because the “white men”
    of (((Hollywood))) aim to raise black racial consciousness, foster black racial identity and instill an “us vs. them (whitey)” attitude in blacks. We need more uncle Tom’s on the silver screen. We need more black movie stars who hate their own race as a condition of their continued employment.
    , @KenH

    You cannot treat the klan or neo-nazis sympathetically. If that’s what you want you might want to fly off to another planet.
     
    Then you can’t treat the Black Panthers, the Bloods, the Crips, the NOI or BLM sympathetically either. If that’s what you want then get a one way ticket to your ancestral Africa.

    It’s a shame more of that didn’t happen in real life. Nat Turner and John Brown were heroes.
     
    It’s also a shame that African blacks were brought to this continent or that after the civil war they weren’t eliminated outright or repatriated back to Africa. President Lincoln was assassinated before he could effect the latter. Poor whites suffered greatly, too, and slavery impoverished them since it’s impossible to compete with slave labor.

    Just to be fair (((Hollywood))) should make a movie based on The Turner Diaries to foster and raise white racial consciousness and depict ALL blacks as mortal enemies deserving of the ultimate punishment. I’m sure you’d be fine with that.

    I’d rather take to word of the Smithsonian over a racist troll like you.
     
    Not sure if suffer from severe presbyopia , but the two photos of the negress math wizards clearly show them as light skinned blacks or almost white (in the case of Katherine Johnson) just like the “racist troll” said. I believe those women should be recognized for their efforts, but the Smithsonian can spare us the embellished and politically correct account which turns them into linchpins of the space program. But believe what you must to bolster your fragile self-esteem.

    Like virtually all white nationalists you are not in touch with reality whatsoever.
     
    You’re beyond hopeless if you think Jews and European whites are one people. That belief betrays your simple mindedness. You remind me of the blacks who think that every oriental they encounter is Chinese not realizing that there are Japanese, Vietnamese, Koreans, Laotian, etc.
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  149. @Priss Factor
    In a way, the New STAR WARS Makes Perfect Sense Given the Change in Ownership from George Lucas to Disney. Force reflects real power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtV2KTeR0o

    Richard Spencer in the video above complains about how the New STAR WARS doesn't respect or conform to the original vision created by George Lucas. And many others have lodged similar complaints. Across the political spectrum, many are not pleased with the new series and especially the new movie because it deviates from the original vision that they grew up with. Many adult audience members spent their formative yrs watching the original series, the first three released from 1977 to 1983 and the second trilogy from 1999 to 2005. So, they have a fixed idea of what STAR WARS universe and the Force are about. Therefore, when confronted with the revisions and narrative-thematic purging of the New Series, they are bewildered and even exasperated by Disney's lack of 'respect' for Lucas' original vision. (But do they ever ask why Lucas still deserves respect when he sold his baby to Disney for billions of shekels?)

    Now, the complainers have a point. The new series may well indeed violate the core principles of Lucas' original vision. It may go against the spirit of the original incarnation under Lucas' command. But they are overlooking certain key facts about the Way of Power in culture. What goes for Power goes for the Force. The Force in STAR WARS is whatever those with the possession of copyright say it is. The Force was what it was as long as Lucas had control over it. But with Jews at Disney now owning STAR WARS, the Force is whatever THEY make it out to be. It's as Carl Schmitt said of the nature of law and power. No law exists outside the reality of power. Basic laws are vaguely worded, and it is the Power that decides the meaning and force of those words. So, when Jews gained control of US culture and jurisprudence, the Constitution came to mean Open Borders, Diversity, Anti-White Dogma(to enforce white submissivism necessary to serve Jewish dominance), and 'Gay Marriage'. Americanism and Constitutionalism were always shaped and determined by the Power. After all, what is Free Speech? Jews once used to say Free Speech means all speech, from far right to far left, should be free.Back then, Jews feared censorship of Jewish radicalism and pornography(big profits for Jews) by traditional Christian power. But once Jews gained supreme power in the US, they came to fear Free Speech as criticism of Jewish Power. Therefore, Jews redefined Free Speech as excluding 'hate speech'. Since Jewish Power controls the meaning of 'hate speech', Zionist speech(that demeans Palestinians) is not 'hate speech', but BDS speech that calls for justice for Palestinians must be criminalized as 'hate'. The Power decides what is 'hate', and that means Jewish elites with supreme power in the US get to denounce and suppress certain speech as 'hateful'.

    What goes for Reality goes for Fantasy. The rules of fantasy will always be controlled by those with power over the fantasy. So, it doesn't matter what Lucas did with the original STAR WARS. It doesn't matter how the Force was manifested in the first six movies. The fact is the power of the Force has gone over to Jews at Disney, and that means Jews will alter the Force to suit their agendas and biases. It's simple as that. So, when Richard Spencer and others talk of STAR WARS as a universe existing independent of copyright ownership and moneyed control, they are being naive. They are presuming that there really is a Core Canonical Principles of the STAR WARS and the dynamics of the Force. No, such was all make-believe and can easily be altered based on whomever is now in control.
    Spencer has emphasized over and over how it's foolish to believe in Constitutionalism as a principle independent of power. He has castigated the so-called True Conservatives who claim to stand for abstract American Values of Liberty and Individualism. His point is that American Constitutionalism will always be determined by those with real power. The Constitution can be molded to mean just about anything. At one time, it even justified slavery and the ethnic cleansing of American Indians. And the 'internment' of the Japanese. And censorship of obscene material offensive to Christians. The Constitution allowed all such censorship and restrictions in the past because the White Christian Majority could will the Constitution to support and defend certain values and interests. But once Jews gained control of the Constitution, the US came to be all about ISRAEL FIRST, favoring Zionists over all other peoples(esp the Palestinians), Open Borders Immigration to turn whites into a minority, and etc. The Constitution now serves the interests of Zionist-Supremacism. And since Jews have chosen Homomania as the proxy agent of Jewish Globlaism, the Worship of Homos and Trannies has become the new christianity or Queertianity. The Christian Church is like the Constitution. In the end, it will be what those in power say it's about. The Power decides and molds & twists the presumed core principles to its will.

    If Spencer is so perceptive about the relation between Power and Laws, why is he so naive and earnest in his assessment of the new STAR WARS movie? He seems baffled as to why the new series violated and betrayed what STAR WARS is really supposed to be about. But his idea of 'real Star Wars' only applies to the franchise that was owned by Lucas. As long as Lucas had power over his baby, he could do as he pleased. But when he sold the Force to Disney, Jews had the power over the Force, and they could bend it to serve their own biases and agendas. It's like if you give your kid up for adoption, the adoptive parents can do whatever they want to with it. Jews can adopt a non-Jew and raise it as a Jew. And of course, the new STAR WARS reflects this reality. What are the agendas of Jewish globalists? It is white feminism. Jews use feminism or man-hate to drive a wedge between white men and white women. By thus setting white women against white men, white race is weakened, and it is easier for Jews to maintain control over white goyim. Jews also push race-mixing to destroy racial and ethnic identities. A people with confused identities are less likely to unite and rise up against the ruling elites. It is also a way to demoralize white males and destroy their pride. By especially promoting interracism between black males and white females, Jews send a message that black males are superior studs while white males are either dorky cucks or wussy homos. And the new STAR WARS is geared to turning its white heroine into a race-mixer. We see this all around in TV commercials, TV shows, and movies. Jews want to make the next James Bond black. Jews want to put the black male on the pedestal as the top alpha male who deserves to take white women. As for white males, they are either old farts who should die or dorky cucks who should delight in their own defeat and humiliation.

    Jews also push for massive 'immigration' to increase Diversity. Why do Jews do this? Jewish elites fear a homogeneous population that might unite against Jewish power. So, Jews seek to increase Diversity and set various goyim against one another. That way, the goyim won't be able to unite as one people against Jewish elites. And of course, the new STAR WARS is all about Diversity, a weapon of Jews against native populations of any nation. Meanwhile, virtually all the villains are white, especially white males.

    In the end, the Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews? According to the original spirit of the Torah, God cannot be manifest in human form. And God's Covenant is with Jews, not with all of humanity. But Christianity had Jesus as Son of God, a human figure walking among mankind. And Christianity said the new covenant is with all of humanity. In the end, it didn't matter how much Jews protested. The fact is when the idea of God passed over to Christian and later Muslim gentiles, they changed or twisted the principles to serve their own interests and agendas. Jewish concept of God was limited only to spaces in which Jews had the power. In gentile spaces where Christians and Muslims had control over the idea of God, His meaning and design could be altered, even drastically, to serve interests inimical to Jews.

    So, what happened to STAR WARS isn't much different from what happened to the concept of the Jewish God once its ownership passed over to gentiles. Via Christian conversion, many gentiles became believers in God, and this belief gave them ownership of the meaning of God. And in their self-interest, they altered and violated many principles so dear to Jews who had once held sole ownership of their God.
    Likewise, STAR WARS owned by Lucas and beloved by so many people had canonical value only as long as its ownership remained with those who remained loyal to the original vision. But once the ownership changed hands, the New Masters were bound to make the franchise serve their own biases and interests.
    This happens with every newspaper or magazine. It doesn't matter what its original masthead declaration of principles was. The new owners will bend the purpose to their own will. This is why The New Republic changed drastically when it was taken over by Neocons under the tutelage of Martin Peretz. And then, once ownership changed once more, it turned into just some homo-globalist hipster rag. Or consider Huffington Post. Despite its name, Ariana Huffington has nothing to do with the new incarnation, and it's changed considerably from what it had been under her control.

    If Alt Right has gained ownership of STARS WARS franchise, they would have made it serve its vision and interests. Richard Spencer as producer-director of STAR WARS would have made the Empire the good guys, and of course, many fans would have screamed Bloody Murder in protest. It's like Stanley Kubrick did his OWN thing with THE SHINING to the never-ending ire of Stephen King who felt Kubrick betrayed his core concept and meaning. But as King had sold movie rights to Kubrick, he was helpless to stop it.
    Indeed, if there is such a thing as Alt Right STAR WARS fanfiction, the narratives likely serve the biases of White Nationalism. But since Jews of Disney own STAR WARS, the franchise is now used to further the Jewish Supremacist agenda of globalism.

    Same thing happened with dialectical communism. The original theory by Karl Marx prophesied that conditions would worsen to the point where the working class would rise up to overthrow the bourgeoisie. Since the Proletariat was essential to this revolution, only an industrialized nation with a majority prole population could undergo the great tranformation. But when Lenin and Stalin took control of the theory, it was altered so that even a backward semi-industrial nation like Russia could have a communist revolution. Spontaneous uprising by the working class was no longer necessary. A radical vanguard with the support of secret police apparatus could pull it off. Later, Mao altered the meaning of Marxism even more by arguing that a communist revolution could happen with a peasant army. So, despite the original canonical meaning of Marxist theory, in the real world of actual practice, Marxism could be molded to be anything by the powers-that-be. If Maoism said Marxism could prevail in an agricultural society, that was the official lore of the land.And later, when reformers took control of China, communism could mean market economics. So, even as the Chinese Communist Party maintained the symbolism of Mao, the Red Flag, and revolutionary pageantry, the New Way was about buying-and-selling, trade with capitalist powers, and getting rich. Indeed, consider how Che Guevara became linked with capitalist pop culture and hedonism even though he hated Rock music, hippies, and materialism.

    So, if we apply Carl-Schmitt-ian analysis to the new STAR WARS, no one should be surprised that the new owners of the Force changed the meaning to suit their ethno-socio-economic purposes. No school of laws, no work of culture, and no set of principles exist in some pure form in a vacuum. They always exist in a world of people with competing interests and agendas. Indeed, even among Christians, different sects disagree on the meaning of Jesus. In many denominations today, homomaniacs have taken over and insist that the faith is about worshiping homos and trannies. And warmongering patriots believe that Christianity is about the flag and guns. So, expecting the STAR WARS universe to remain pristine or resist heretical ideas is wishful thinking. STAR WARS will be whatever those with ownership of it make it to be.
    It's like the Hagia Sophia Mosque in Istanbul. It was originally built as a Christian Cathedral, but Muslims altered the meaning. At one time, Ottoman Turks even altered the Parthenon to serve as a place of prayer for Muslims. But then, Christians had done the same to Pagan Temples. While Christians destroyed some pagan temples, they altered some to serve Jesus than the pagan gods. If we see STAR WARS as a kind of pop mythology or fanboy church, its core meaning will change to the tune of whoever has control over it. Consider the evolution of the Parthenon depending on who held power over Athens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGitmYl6U90

    Another complaint oft-heard from the detractors of the new series is that the nature of the Force has change considerably from the original series. They object to how the Force has become so easy with the young heroine. And Spencer wonders how someone with such humble background could have the Force. But, they are forgetting that George Lucas himself kept changing the nature of the Force. In PHANTOM MENACE, he altered the Force from some mysterious essence to something that can be medically detected in blood. And for those who have problems with the young heroine's humble background in the new series, the old series would have us believe that some slave woman could give a miracle virgin birth to some kid who, at the tender age of 7, can win a hyper-drive chariot race and man spaceships and blow up seasoned enemy pilots. So, if a 7 yr old squirt can do all that, is it really so strange to see a young heroine do 'badass' things?

    Also, if a female slave non-entity(in PHANTOM MENACE) could give a miracle birth to some kid with the Force, why is it so surprising that the heroine in the new series could have super-Force despite being born to humble parents? Besides, if the 20th century taught us anything, it was that those from the humblest backgrounds could become giants of history: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.

    As for the heroine's ease with mastering the Force, we need to understand that pop culture reflects the times. When Lucas made STAR WARS, power was still institutionalized. One had to go through the proper institutions/channels or gain access to big industries to be somebody. To be an influential journalist, one had to gain position at CBS or New York Times. To be an influential thinker, one had to have a position at Harvard or be promoted by top publishing companies and the media. To be a famous cultural celebrity, one had to be hired by TV, Hollywood, radio, or music industry. Even though there were alternative venues and underground artists, it was a tough climb to gain any kind of success, at least immediately. And Lucas struggled in this world. For him to gain access to film technology, he had to work hard and long and make the climb. To gain the Force, one had to go through the institutions controlled by high priests.

    But we now live in the internet age. Even a young person in a small town now has access to more news and information than New York Times did in the pre-internet age. When Lucas grew up, it was difficult to see foreign films. Only college towns and big cities showed them, and one had to wait long time to see certain movies. It was nearly impossible for anyone to see something when he wanted.
    Today, even someone living in the boonies can watch all sorts of movies from all parts of the world on the internet. Even a kid has more access to World Cinema than top film scholars did prior to the internet age.
    Also, even kids carry around smartphones that serve not only as phones but as internet screens, cameras, recording devices, and etc. It's like their light sabers.
    Thus, the Force has gone from institutional and individual in our world. Before the internet, someone like PewDiePie and Stefan Molyneux didn't have a chance at celebrity-hood. Institutions would not have given them the platform to express their views or pull their antics. But internet has been the great equalizer. Anyone can reach the world from inside their bedrooms. Some of these 'amateurs' have more fans and viewership than mainstream media do.
    So, the revision of the Force in the new series could very well reflect social change. Young people with interesting ideas, music, opinions, personalities, or shtick no longer have to make the Long March through the Institutions to say their say, gain a fanbase, develop a cult, and even become fabulously rich. Even demented Andrew Anglin has gained legendary anti-hero status because of the internet. Even with the attempts to shut down Daily Stormer, Anglin still has enough Troll Force to mess with the Narrative.

    Alt Right should know this since its rise owes so much to the internet, the great equalizer that has made it possible for oddballs like Mark Dice and Styxhexenhammer666 to get huge followings. This is why Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, and Google-Search are working in tandem with ADL to rig the game and ban certain voices deemed 'hateful', but the nature of the internet favors individuals over institutions. It has democratized the Force, for good or for ill.

    So, given all these changes and developments in society, is it any wonder that the nature of the Force has changed in the new series? Whereas Luke had to go through the institutions to gain his power, Rey doesn't. The Force has been digitalized and democratized.

    Internet and gadgets like smartphones have empowered individuals in ways that were unforeseeable when Lucas conceived STAR WARS. Just consider how the rise of high-tech allowed young ones to become overnight moguls and billionaires. Prior to the internet, could someone like Mark Zuckerberg become so rich so fast?

    Now, I'm not saying LAST JEDI is a good movie. I haven't seen it. I did see FORCE AWAKENS, and it was terrible. But, we should not be surprised that Force will change along with the change in ownership and will reflect social transformations all around us. In the end, most pop culture, even when set in the distant past or fantasy world, are more reflections of prevailing fashions and trends of the moment than works of purity remaining faithful to a set of core principles inside a bubble.

    Internet made even this young woman a celebrity and a known factor in culture:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGEilqBNKwk

    Power decides the meaning of anything. This was true of how Christianity got started. It developed as a branch or heresy of Judaism. Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition. How dare these gentiles take something from Jews and change the meanings to make God serve gentiles than Jews?

    You are misleading the readers in order to put an extra veneer of authority on your otherwise thoughtful analysis regarding the Nazi jurist Schmitt’s conceptualization of Power.

    Peter, Paul, Matthew, John and most of the other disciples and converts to Christianity were in fact Hebrews.
    Paul -himself a Pharisee- was educated by one of the most learned of rabbis- Gamaliel.

    Jews denounced Christianity as a violation of the true meaning of God in the Torah and Jewish tradition

    None other than Jesus Christ rebuked the scribes and Pharisees!

    “You make the scriptures (Torah) of no account by your traditions of men.”

    The problem with Gods chosen people is that they epitomize the fallen nature of man. A proud and stiff- necked people given over to greed and fornication and idolatry. They gleefully slaughtered the prophets who predicted their impending doom and subsequent enslavement (Judgement from God) under the Babylonians.

    Thus began the scriptural departure from revealed religion to that of the Talmud Bavli- the wise traditions of thousands of rabbis that expounds broadly on non- Biblical topics.

    The Holy Spirit inspired the apostle Paul to admonished the Romans:

    Her eyes (Israel ) have been darkened…

    11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

    There is the Torah ( Old Covenant) and the New Covenant. One concise theme runs through this received manual of salvation (Gods revelation.. or free gift of Grace to all mankind)

    The blood sacrifice for sin. Jesus Christ.

    Not written in ink, nor chiseled in tablets of stone; but inscribed on the fleshy tables of the heart.

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  150. @anonymous
    From the days of McCarthy and the outing of various infiltrators in Hollywood and other media we can see that there's always been this intention to use mass media as a vehicle for propaganda. Now they've gotten fairly bold and actually announce their intentions with little fear since they've now got a substantial part of the population on their side. Early media reports gave this movie glowing praise so as to hype sales. Reality apparently has set in as word of mouth travels. Almost all media is unwatchable, they slip propaganda in into almost anything and everything. I dropped out many years ago and won't support them slapping me in the face. I've got too much self-respect to play along with any of this and suggest everyone do likewise. Let them get their money from someone else.

    Right on. Why does anyone suffer this crap that is pop culture?
    I live in Philly and am surrounded by history.
    From Franklin to Coltrane l walk in some Giant Steps…

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  151. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor
    Holding up the (Jewish) Disney corporation acquisition of (Gentile) George Lucas’s SW property as an example of the same process as the formation of the (Gentile) Christian heritage on the mouldering bones of the Hebraic (Jewish) tradition reads like a sort of Satanic inversion.

    The new STAR WARS or STAR SCHWARZ made things much worse, but Lucas ruined it long long ago. He came up with a great vision but emotionally grew backward and made the Saga about nothing but toys, special effects, and pandering to kids. Despite their faults, STAR WARS and EMPIRE worked as storytelling and set up a great finale. Luke vs Darth. But RETURN OF JEDI was filled with fish-headed generals and jungle teddy bears. Also, Lucas had the tendency to combine naive infantilism with quasi-tendentious sermonizing. So, he said that Ewoks were like the Viet Cong because US, the great industrial power, was defeated by jungle warriors of Vietnam. But this is silly. The battle takes place in a single afternoon in RETURN and just a handful of Ewoks die. In contrast, Vietnam War lasted for 8 yrs(officially and unofficially even longer), and at least 2 million Viets died and many got wounded. Also, the viets were not a hunter-gatherer tribe with stone age weapons but armed and supplied by the OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL Power, the Soviets. But Lucas gave us teddy bears in space and then made some bogus pompous political statements, like he is Colonel Kurtz in APOCALYPSE NOW or something. It was funny seeing a man getting sillier and more serious at the same time. And the whole STAR WARS is like that. In some ways, it gets darker and more 'complicated'. We discover Darth is really pa of Luke, and Luke is tempted to the Dark Side. And the prequels say something about how democracy can turn into tyranny. And yet, at the center of the narrative is just a lot of hokum and kiddie stuff. STAR WARS could have been EXCALIBUR IN SPACE but it just became a big pinball machine.

    That STAR WARS got Jewishized into STAR SCHWARZ is interesting given that the core inspiration of the STAR WARS universe is pagan. Even though Lucas drew some ideas from the Bible and Judeo-Christian tradition, it owes more to paganism of Greco-Roman mythology, Germanic mythology, Japanese samurai cult & Kurosawa films, Arthurian legends, the Western, and 20th century Fascist-Nazi aesthetics. It was about the brotherhood of knighthood, the cult of the warrior.
    And of course, STAR SCHWARZ continues in that vein. It still owes more to paganist inspirations than anything in the Bible. And yet, why is it Jewishy? Because there are many aspects to Jewishness. There is core Jewishness of religion and heritage. But there is also the Pawnbroker Jewishness, the art of merchantry where Jews take control of pagan/gentile icons & idols and use/exploit them to serve the Jewish agenda. It's like a Jewish pawnbroker wasn't a collector of only Jewish stuff. He gained ownership of tons of goy, pagan, gentile stuff. He used them for profits or props to push Jewish interests.
    In our world, Jews promote Diversity and Interracism on whites. Diversity weakens white unity and white power. Interracism destroys white male pride, thus whites become cucked. So, even though STAR SCHWARZ is still paganist, those paganist altars have been altered to favor the political and ideological agenda of Jewish Globalist Power. This is also true of homomania. The history of homo cult is paganist. It was biggest among pagan Greeks and decadent Romans. And some pagan tribes were tolerant of homo stuff. Samurai could bugger one another sometimes. In contrast, Jewish history was anti-homo. So, how did Jews, even religious Jews, become such promoters of Homomania? Because this paganism can be used by Jews to weaken gentiles. By promoting Homos as wonderful elites, society normalizes the notion of the minority ruling elite. Also, by weakening the moral core of Christians by making churches adopt homomania, Christians no longer have true moral pride. Any people who worship homo fecal penetration as holy cannot be truly moral. They are degenerates whose moral righteousness depends on hype, hysteria, and propaganda than moral depth or meaning.

    Jews tend to be monomaniacal and seek world dominance, and there have been three ways of going about achieving this. (1) Sticking to Jewish tradition and the Covenant. Keeping strict barriers between holy Jews and filthy goyim. This school of thought said if Jews remain clean and serve God, God will take care of things and favor Jews, and Jews will inherit the earth. (2) Creating a new universal idea(as outgrowth of tribal Jewishness) and spreading that idea to destroy all other ideas. Christianity and Communism were such Jewish ideas. The ideal of Christianity that began as Jewish heresy is to convert the whole world to Jesus and to destroy all other ideas. Paganisms of all kinds must be destroyed. Non-believers are heathens and must be converted or condemned. Communism was a secular kind of Christianity. Supposedly, Marx figured everything out, and only communism was the truth, and all other ideas had to be destroyed or exterminated. The whole world must be made communist. One idea for all mankind.

    The problem of (1) was that extreme tribalism didn't do much for Jews in terms of power. NO matter how pure they were remained in blood and no matter how much they remained faithful to God, Jews didn't inherit the world. As for (2), even though those ideas began as Jewish ideas, gentiles eventually took control of them, and Jews got burned. Christians began to persecute Jews. And communism eventually suppressed Jewish identity. And then, even Jewish communists came to be suspected and marginalized as untrustworthy.

    But there was (3) way. By this way, Jews would accept the existence of pagan/gentile ideas. Jews would accept the poly-ideastic way of the world. Unlike (1) Jews, the (3) Jews would extensively engage with the gentile world. But unlike (2) Jews, they would not try to conquer the world with one idea, like Christianity or Communism. Rather, they would allow various ideas/interests to exist BUT have those ideas/interests serve the Higher and Greater ideas/interests of Jews. It's like the Roman Empire. It allowed non-Romans to keep their cultures and etc. But the Empire also insisted that non-Romans all serve Roman agendas and interests in the end. Instead of universalism where everyone has the same ideas, icons, and idols, it'd be a poly-versal empire where various peoples would stick to their ideas, icons, and idols that, however, would be manipulated to serve the Higher Idea. So, Jews adopted a kind of neo-paganism for their own purposes. In pagan cosmology, there are various gods, but there is also the top god, and the lower gods serve the top god. Jewish manipulation of neo-paganism had non-Jews as lesser gods serving Jews as the top gods. This way, pagans/gentiles could have their own identities and cultures... but they would ultimately bow down to the higher identity and culture of Jews.

    And we see this with how STAR WARS became STAR SCHWARZ. It is still very pagan and steeped in the Carl-Jung-Joseph-Campbell thing, but it now favors feminism, jungle fever, Diversity, and etc to occupy what were essentially roles defined by European pagans. But we see the same thing with BBC. British and European histories are retconned to push the Jewish agenda of Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs with Jungle Fever for white women and cuckery for white men. Hollywood Jews said the next James Bond will be a Negro.
    The great western heroes, Lancelot and Achilles, have been made black in BBC and TV shows. So, even as Jews maintain the pagan idols, they change the cast to push the Jewish agenda of perpetuating white submissivism so that whites will forever lose white pride and identity. A people without pride become mental slaves and serve OTHER peoples.

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bXWv5Is_X9Q/WklRiiULqWI/AAAAAAAABzs/0rRGyUooP3QkTDGQdIKAoRbNVGmYgtUmQCLcBGAs/s1600/DSU_1m1X4AECoJE.jpg

    Communism and Christianity(and Islam) were mono-imperial systems. Ideally, all of humanity should come under the One True Idea, and all men must struggle for the exact same principles and goals. Both have roots in Jewish culture because Jews developed the notion of the One God and One Truth, with all other gods deserving to be either holocausted or denied their validity/existence.

    In contrast, there was the poly-imperial systems. It attempted to conquer as many lands and people as possible. But it didn't believe there was one true idea for all. It was more about power and control than conversion. So, other peoples, the conquered subjects, could believe in their own gods, stick with their own traditions/values, and worship their own idols. However, they had to accept the Imperial Rulers as the top power. They had to pay taxes to the top power. They had to bow down to the military might of the top power. Romans were like this,and the Romans managed well with most pagan folks. But they had the most problem with Jews because, unlike pagans, Jews believed their God was the only true God. So, Romans had the stronger military and greater material power, but Jews had the stronger idea, greater spiritual might, and farther-reaching prophetic vision. Romans could win with arms, but Jews could win with vision. But to win, Jews had to develop an idea that could win over the hearts of gentiles/pagans. And that was Christianity. In a way, the spread of Christianity was a great triumph of the Jewish idea over gentiles. But because most Jews didn't take to the new faith and stuck with their own original concept, the Jewish Heresy turned on them. So, Christianity was both the biggest triumph and tragedy for Jews. Communism would turn out similarly. Jews won big and lost big with it.

    So, what is the best way for Jews to win? Self-enclosed tribalism won't get anywhere. Jews must engage with the whole world that is goyim. Should Jews come up with a universal idea for all mankind? But then, gentiles will eventually come to own the idea and use it for their own interests, and this might hurt Jews.
    Given those odds, the best way is for Jews to make peace with gentile ideas, icons, and interests but find some way to make them serve Jewish identity, ideas, and interests as the highest and greatest there is. It's like how Jews work with Evangelicals. Jews are okay with the born-again folks worshiping Jesus and etc, BUT much of Evangelicalism is now 'muh Israel, muh Israel, muh Israel'. Jews work well with Mormons, but Mormons are all about 'muh Israel, muh Israel, muh Israel'. So, Jews are okay with Mormons being Mormons BUT Mormons better still put Jewish interests above Mormon interests. It's like Romans were okay with Syrians and Britons, but those conquered folks still had to obey Roman power before their own. Even as Romans didn't erase other people's cultures and idols, those had to be made subservient to Roman culture and idols as the highest there are.
    And modern Jews adopted this, esp from Anglos, the modern folks who come closest to being like the Romans of old. So, the US is now about diversity and how different folks can have their own cultures, identities, and narratives... BUT they better put 'muh Israel' before anything. Jews don't have to attend meetings for Russian, Iranian, Chinese, Mexican, African, etc interests BUT all gentile politicians have to attend AIPAC to praise 'muh Israel'. Look at that whore Nikki Haley, the semi-person-of-dot.

    The COEN movie HAIL CAESAR offers a useful glimpse into this Jewish agenda. Like some other Coen movies, it is pretty mocking of Christianity as a religion that controls the goyim. Even though goyim have used Christianity to oppress Jews, it also tames goyim and turns them into saps who can be manipulated by Jews.
    Some people think Coens are respectful of Christianity. They are not. What they are interested in is the psycho-politics of Christianity, and in this, they share something with Steven Spielberg who has adopted Catholicist and Evangelical tropes to push his vision of Pop Jewishism on the world.

    In a scene in HAIL CAESAR we see a Rabbi who is offended by what Christian clergy has to say. Even though Jews have been anti-Christian, there's a kind of paradox. Jews have been so anti-Christian because they are so Christoid, conviction that Jewish individuals could become like Christ. The main problem that Jews have with Christianity is it deified the prophet and messiah into Son of God or even God. The Jewish idea of the Messiah was a great prophet, warrior, messenger. Jews never conceived of messiah as God or even Son of God. Jewish concept of the messiah is empowering because the messiah is a prophet, and a man can be a prophet. So, by the Jewish concept of the messiah, any Jewish man can, at least theoretically, be a messiah since he could be the great prophet. In contrast, Christianity says the messiah is not a prophet but the Son of God or God Himself. And that means there is no more Future. The Truth has been revealed through Jesus the Son of God, and humanity has no more need for prophets. After Jesus, there can only be saints. Saints are different from prophets. Saints don't have the great vision. They just have the pure faith in God and Jesus. Their duty is to be angelic and devoted. They are not seers of the Future since the Truth has already been revealed. Thus, Christianity destroyed the prophetic tradition. It allowed for many saints but no prophets. In contrast, Jews never gave up on the notion of the prophet. Since the messiah has yet to come and since a man can be a prophet and since a prophet can be the messiah, any Jewish man can, at least theoretically, be the prophet-messiah.

    In some ways, Christianity is more hubristic than Judaism, but in some ways, it is more humble. It is more hubristic in the notion that a Man who walks on Earth can be the Son of God, even God. To Jews, this was pure blasphemy, an affront to God.
    And yet, precisely because Jesus wasn't just a great prophet but Son of God or God as the Messiah, no other man can ever come anywhere near Him or be like Him. He is the ONLY Man who could be the Messiah since Christianity says Messiah = Son of God = God.

    In contrast, Judaism can be said to be more humble because it says no man can be the Son of God or God. God is too great and doesn't manifest Himself in human form. And yet, because the Jewish concept of the Messiah is a prophet, any Jew could conceivably be him. Granted, the Messiah could be like an angel sent from Heaven. Even so, he is still not Son of God or God. He is still closer to man if not a man. Since Jews defined the Messiah in this manner, each Jew is instilled with propheticism which is far more ambitious and egoistic than sainthood, which is about devotion and faith. A prophet is humble before God but confident of his vision as the messenger of God. In contrast, a saint is not about the power of mind and vision but goodness of the heart and faith. It's a bit sappy.

    In the conference with rabbi and Christian clergy in HAIL CAESAR, the rabbi says God cannot be shown in Jewish culture. And in the movie, we are not shown the face of Jesus in the movie-within-the-movie. But we see a lot of the Roman soldier. And we see the shabbos goy gentile studio boss, but we are never shown his Jewish boss Schenk who is like a godly presence. Both the Roman soldier(George Clooney) and the goy studio boss have two modes of behavior: soldier and saint. As soldier, he is rough and aggressive. But when faced with the greater prophetic power of Jesus, he goes into saint mode with sappy face. And the goy studio boss is the same way. He can be tough and push actors around. He whips the crew to get the job done. He is warrior-like in that mode. But he is deeply respectful to his boss Schenk who is like a divine prophet to him.(Schenk is like the Jewish prophet of capitalism; Marcuse is like Jewish prophet of communism; Hollywood is divided between two modes.) Schenk apparently has the vision whereas his shabbos goy underling can manage things but lacks the big vision. After all, Jews invented Hollywood, the empire of dreams where gentile-pagan idols and icons came to be reshaped to serve the Jewish Empire.

    HAIL CAESAR is a rather confused movie because its allusions are often double-or-triple-in-meaning. There is Scarlett Johansson as Rhinemaiden of Wagner's mythology. But she is swallowed up by what? Whale that swallowed Jonah? This Jewish whale also swallows the gold and then its blowhole ejaculates like Harvey Weinstein's pud. But later, this woman is like a perverse allusion to the Madonna. She is pregnant with a child from a uncertain father and she ends up marrying a guy named Joe, like Mary was married to Joseph. So,a character is alluded to both Germanic mythology and the Biblical story. Weird. And later a Soviet submarine emerges like the whale. I guess Sovietism is like the other Jewish creation. Whale of communism vs Whale of capitalism, both trying to devour the wealth of the world as a good or an evil. But the guy loses the money in the water cuz of the dog(like the dog that messed up the heist in THE KILLING by Kubrick). It's a very confused movie, but also a very inspired and interesting one. I can understand why it flopped at the box office. Though a comedy, there's a lot more going on there which is esoteric.

    Anyway, the movie is onto something. We tend to see history in terms of Jews vs Christianity but it's more like Future Christoidism vs Been-there-done-there-Christianism.
    Christianity says the Christ was among us, and He was Son of God, thus God, and we all need to be saints with sappy faces like when George Clooney looks at Jesus who offers him water.
    In contrast, Jews believe the Future is filled with new christoids with prophetic vision. Jews accept Jesus as prophet but not messiah. So, Christ was only a prophet, and that means there can be future christs or christoids... like Marx, Rand, Marcuse, etc. And the 20th century has been filled with Jewish prophets and would-be prophets. And this has been a source of great power for Jews. In the end, the stronger idea gains dominance over weaker ones. And the fact is the prophet is more powerful than the saint. Saint is a pawn on the chess board whereas the prophet is the rook or queen. Saint blindly and sappily serves and obeys the king. The queen and rook serve the king too but have their own agency and greater reach in movement.

    Because Jews are still in prophetic mode whereas Christians are in saint mode, the globalist empire has the weaker saintly ideas of gentiles serving the stronger prophetic ideas of Jews.

    You seem bound and determined to prove out the value of the latter half of Chesterton’s observation that “the whole truth is generally the ally of virtue; a half-truth is always the ally of some vice.”

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  152. KenH says:
    @Okechukwu

    Then you’re either not paying attention or in denial. For example, movies about black and white race relations almost always depict the whites as moral reprobates and just plain wrong while blacks are holier than thou, right and righteous. Rosewood, A Time to Kill , Selma, and Higher Learning are just a small sampling.
     
    These are historical films. How are you going to treat these periods without depicting white moral reprobates?

    The only good whites are those who don’t take their own side and help blacks
     
    There are only two choices in most films: good and evil. What you describe as not taking their own side is Hollywood trying to introduce good whites to counterbalance the evil ones, lest people go away thinking that all whites are evil. You cannot treat the klan or neo-nazis sympathetically. If that's what you want you might want to fly off to another planet.

    Django Unchained is a pure anti-white snuff film.
     
    It's a shame more of that didn't happen in real life. Nat Turner and John Brown were heroes. Interesting that you have nothing to say about the underlying slavery and brutality that motivated Django. The suffering of whites at the hands of Djando was a walk in the park compared to the real suffering of blacks.

    Hidden Figures was fabricated history about how black women wuz queens of the space program and showed those cracka ass white men a thing or two about advanced math.
     
    I'd rather take to word of the Smithsonian over a racist troll like you.

    The True Story of “Hidden Figures,” the Forgotten Black Women Who Helped Win the Space Race

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/forgotten-black-women-mathematicians-who-helped-win-wars-and-send-astronauts-space-180960393/


    More like Jewish men and Jews don’t consider themselves as white Europeans and from a genetic standpoint they clearly are not white European. With all the pro-black crap emanating from Hollywood these days Jewish Hollywood has taken sides and it isn’t with whites.
     
    Like virtually all white nationalists you are not in touch with reality whatsoever.

    These are historical films. How are you going to treat these periods without depicting white moral reprobates?

    Whites who retaliated against blacks for depredations they committed against the white community or who take their own side in racial conflict are not moral reprobates. Using your logic any blacks who riot or attack and/or kill police or white citizens for largely imaginary wrongs are moral reprobates.

    Only Rosewood and Selma are based on actual historical events and they only tell the story from the malcontented negro point of view. In doing so they willfully left out facts which would cast blacks as less than the morally pure and righteous beings they are depicted as and that would put white attitudes and actions and the dynamic from that time into its proper context.

    There are only two choices in most films: good and evil.

    Assuming the films are works of fiction which offers greater latitude. In non-fiction there’s usually shades of gray and two sides that (((Hollywood))) often leaves out since they deal in anti-white propaganda, not genuine history, when it concerns the history of black and white race relations.

    What you describe as not taking their own side is Hollywood trying to introduce good whites to counterbalance the evil ones, lest people go away thinking that all whites are evil.

    If that’s the way you see things then what movies depict blacks as evil and their fellow blacks turning against their own race and aiding and abetting whites? Answer: none, because the “white men”
    of (((Hollywood))) aim to raise black racial consciousness, foster black racial identity and instill an “us vs. them (whitey)” attitude in blacks. We need more uncle Tom’s on the silver screen. We need more black movie stars who hate their own race as a condition of their continued employment.

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  153. KenH says:
    @Okechukwu

    Then you’re either not paying attention or in denial. For example, movies about black and white race relations almost always depict the whites as moral reprobates and just plain wrong while blacks are holier than thou, right and righteous. Rosewood, A Time to Kill , Selma, and Higher Learning are just a small sampling.
     
    These are historical films. How are you going to treat these periods without depicting white moral reprobates?

    The only good whites are those who don’t take their own side and help blacks
     
    There are only two choices in most films: good and evil. What you describe as not taking their own side is Hollywood trying to introduce good whites to counterbalance the evil ones, lest people go away thinking that all whites are evil. You cannot treat the klan or neo-nazis sympathetically. If that's what you want you might want to fly off to another planet.

    Django Unchained is a pure anti-white snuff film.
     
    It's a shame more of that didn't happen in real life. Nat Turner and John Brown were heroes. Interesting that you have nothing to say about the underlying slavery and brutality that motivated Django. The suffering of whites at the hands of Djando was a walk in the park compared to the real suffering of blacks.

    Hidden Figures was fabricated history about how black women wuz queens of the space program and showed those cracka ass white men a thing or two about advanced math.
     
    I'd rather take to word of the Smithsonian over a racist troll like you.

    The True Story of “Hidden Figures,” the Forgotten Black Women Who Helped Win the Space Race

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/forgotten-black-women-mathematicians-who-helped-win-wars-and-send-astronauts-space-180960393/


    More like Jewish men and Jews don’t consider themselves as white Europeans and from a genetic standpoint they clearly are not white European. With all the pro-black crap emanating from Hollywood these days Jewish Hollywood has taken sides and it isn’t with whites.
     
    Like virtually all white nationalists you are not in touch with reality whatsoever.

    You cannot treat the klan or neo-nazis sympathetically. If that’s what you want you might want to fly off to another planet.

    Then you can’t treat the Black Panthers, the Bloods, the Crips, the NOI or BLM sympathetically either. If that’s what you want then get a one way ticket to your ancestral Africa.

    It’s a shame more of that didn’t happen in real life. Nat Turner and John Brown were heroes.

    It’s also a shame that African blacks were brought to this continent or that after the civil war they weren’t eliminated outright or repatriated back to Africa. President Lincoln was assassinated before he could effect the latter. Poor whites suffered greatly, too, and slavery impoverished them since it’s impossible to compete with slave labor.

    Just to be fair (((Hollywood))) should make a movie based on The Turner Diaries to foster and raise white racial consciousness and depict ALL blacks as mortal enemies deserving of the ultimate punishment. I’m sure you’d be fine with that.

    I’d rather take to word of the Smithsonian over a racist troll like you.

    Not sure if suffer from severe presbyopia , but the two photos of the negress math wizards clearly show them as light skinned blacks or almost white (in the case of Katherine Johnson) just like the “racist troll” said. I believe those women should be recognized for their efforts, but the Smithsonian can spare us the embellished and politically correct account which turns them into linchpins of the space program. But believe what you must to bolster your fragile self-esteem.

    Like virtually all white nationalists you are not in touch with reality whatsoever.

    You’re beyond hopeless if you think Jews and European whites are one people. That belief betrays your simple mindedness. You remind me of the blacks who think that every oriental they encounter is Chinese not realizing that there are Japanese, Vietnamese, Koreans, Laotian, etc.

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    I read the Turner Diaries just last year. Not necessarily great for me , but very entertaining.

    So, some enterprising small-time USA people should just make a film of it. Forget Hellywood, just make it!

    Had a revelation in the last two days, Pahlaniuk's Fight Club is based on the Turner Diaries, just watered down.

    He is so stupid, I have the version of Fight Club where you can switch to listen to Pittt boasting, Norton saying stupid things, the jewish 'Englishwoman' playing very English, and Pahlaniuk just sounding like a moron.

    I am convinced that Fight Club is based on the Turner Diaries, not least because Pahlaniuk is audibly a cretin.

    Have never read a Pahlaniuk story, tried at times at bookshops, too boring, but have read Turner Diaries and seen Fight Club,

    So the latter is based on the former.

    Anybody wanting to make a movie of the Turner Diaries would find many willing people,
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  154. Miro23 says:
    @Hadji Gegenraum
    Carl Schmitt was the 'Crown Jurist" in Germany who 'justified' Hitler's assent to power, arguing that the response to the 'Reichstag Fire' required the utilization of "Emergency Powers" hence paving the way to dictatorship.

    It was Schmitt who influenced the "NeoCons" many of whom had studied with a philosophy professor Leo Strauss, whom was a devotee of Martin Heidegger, the existentialist philosopher who brought Schmitt into the Nazi Party. Strauss corresponded with Schmitt and was influenced by the example that takes a perversion of philosophy into the real political realm in order to excuse a power grab. It was Strauss who taught that philosophy contained inner secrets of interpretation that was taught only to a chosen elite, where the basis of that secret was that lies were permissible to that elite to serve the power needs of that elite.

    Thus 9/11 was the emergency used by, and created by, the Neoconservatives, for the rise to power utilizing 'Emergency Powers' for a dictatorship that would wage perpetual war, based on lies, to stay in power.

    Essays in this collection by LaRouchePac, 'The Children of Satan" goes into further detail on this, including the destruction of culture by the allied forces of these elites that run the 'entertainment industries' in part III of the Children of Satan. on the 'Congress for Cultural Freedom' project more properly referred to as in the publication as 'The Sexual Congress for Cultural Fascism"

    https://archive.larouchepac.com/files/child_satan_book_0.pdf

    Thus 9/11 was the emergency used by, and created by, the Neoconservatives, for the rise to power utilizing ‘Emergency Powers’ for a dictatorship that would wage perpetual war, based on lies, to stay in power.

    Exactly right – but it failed (on the domestic US side) and we are living in the messy aftermath. The Neocons planned to hold absolute power after 9/11.

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  155. JdoubleU says:

    The Alt-Right: White Privilege doesn’t exist
    Also the Alt-Right: I have so few problems in life that I have the time and energy to get palpably upset over a dumb space opera because it has too many minorities.

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  156. Stewbumer says:

    Not white, just white hetero-sexual males.
    My teenager noticed this right away.
    All the leaders of the “good guys” = women.
    All the leaders of the “bad guys” = white hetero-sexual males.
    Not too subtle there guys.

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  157. Che Guava says:
    @Priss Factor
    Holding up the (Jewish) Disney corporation acquisition of (Gentile) George Lucas’s SW property as an example of the same process as the formation of the (Gentile) Christian heritage on the mouldering bones of the Hebraic (Jewish) tradition reads like a sort of Satanic inversion.

    The new STAR WARS or STAR SCHWARZ made things much worse, but Lucas ruined it long long ago. He came up with a great vision but emotionally grew backward and made the Saga about nothing but toys, special effects, and pandering to kids. Despite their faults, STAR WARS and EMPIRE worked as storytelling and set up a great finale. Luke vs Darth. But RETURN OF JEDI was filled with fish-headed generals and jungle teddy bears. Also, Lucas had the tendency to combine naive infantilism with quasi-tendentious sermonizing. So, he said that Ewoks were like the Viet Cong because US, the great industrial power, was defeated by jungle warriors of Vietnam. But this is silly. The battle takes place in a single afternoon in RETURN and just a handful of Ewoks die. In contrast, Vietnam War lasted for 8 yrs(officially and unofficially even longer), and at least 2 million Viets died and many got wounded. Also, the viets were not a hunter-gatherer tribe with stone age weapons but armed and supplied by the OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL Power, the Soviets. But Lucas gave us teddy bears in space and then made some bogus pompous political statements, like he is Colonel Kurtz in APOCALYPSE NOW or something. It was funny seeing a man getting sillier and more serious at the same time. And the whole STAR WARS is like that. In some ways, it gets darker and more 'complicated'. We discover Darth is really pa of Luke, and Luke is tempted to the Dark Side. And the prequels say something about how democracy can turn into tyranny. And yet, at the center of the narrative is just a lot of hokum and kiddie stuff. STAR WARS could have been EXCALIBUR IN SPACE but it just became a big pinball machine.

    That STAR WARS got Jewishized into STAR SCHWARZ is interesting given that the core inspiration of the STAR WARS universe is pagan. Even though Lucas drew some ideas from the Bible and Judeo-Christian tradition, it owes more to paganism of Greco-Roman mythology, Germanic mythology, Japanese samurai cult & Kurosawa films, Arthurian legends, the Western, and 20th century Fascist-Nazi aesthetics. It was about the brotherhood of knighthood, the cult of the warrior.
    And of course, STAR SCHWARZ continues in that vein. It still owes more to paganist inspirations than anything in the Bible. And yet, why is it Jewishy? Because there are many aspects to Jewishness. There is core Jewishness of religion and heritage. But there is also the Pawnbroker Jewishness, the art of merchantry where Jews take control of pagan/gentile icons & idols and use/exploit them to serve the Jewish agenda. It's like a Jewish pawnbroker wasn't a collector of only Jewish stuff. He gained ownership of tons of goy, pagan, gentile stuff. He used them for profits or props to push Jewish interests.
    In our world, Jews promote Diversity and Interracism on whites. Diversity weakens white unity and white power. Interracism destroys white male pride, thus whites become cucked. So, even though STAR SCHWARZ is still paganist, those paganist altars have been altered to favor the political and ideological agenda of Jewish Globalist Power. This is also true of homomania. The history of homo cult is paganist. It was biggest among pagan Greeks and decadent Romans. And some pagan tribes were tolerant of homo stuff. Samurai could bugger one another sometimes. In contrast, Jewish history was anti-homo. So, how did Jews, even religious Jews, become such promoters of Homomania? Because this paganism can be used by Jews to weaken gentiles. By promoting Homos as wonderful elites, society normalizes the notion of the minority ruling elite. Also, by weakening the moral core of Christians by making churches adopt homomania, Christians no longer have true moral pride. Any people who worship homo fecal penetration as holy cannot be truly moral. They are degenerates whose moral righteousness depends on hype, hysteria, and propaganda than moral depth or meaning.

    Jews tend to be monomaniacal and seek world dominance, and there have been three ways of going about achieving this. (1) Sticking to Jewish tradition and the Covenant. Keeping strict barriers between holy Jews and filthy goyim. This school of thought said if Jews remain clean and serve God, God will take care of things and favor Jews, and Jews will inherit the earth. (2) Creating a new universal idea(as outgrowth of tribal Jewishness) and spreading that idea to destroy all other ideas. Christianity and Communism were such Jewish ideas. The ideal of Christianity that began as Jewish heresy is to convert the whole world to Jesus and to destroy all other ideas. Paganisms of all kinds must be destroyed. Non-believers are heathens and must be converted or condemned. Communism was a secular kind of Christianity. Supposedly, Marx figured everything out, and only communism was the truth, and all other ideas had to be destroyed or exterminated. The whole world must be made communist. One idea for all mankind.

    The problem of (1) was that extreme tribalism didn't do much for Jews in terms of power. NO matter how pure they were remained in blood and no matter how much they remained faithful to God, Jews didn't inherit the world. As for (2), even though those ideas began as Jewish ideas, gentiles eventually took control of them, and Jews got burned. Christians began to persecute Jews. And communism eventually suppressed Jewish identity. And then, even Jewish communists came to be suspected and marginalized as untrustworthy.

    But there was (3) way. By this way, Jews would accept the existence of pagan/gentile ideas. Jews would accept the poly-ideastic way of the world. Unlike (1) Jews, the (3) Jews would extensively engage with the gentile world. But unlike (2) Jews, they would not try to conquer the world with one idea, like Christianity or Communism. Rather, they would allow various ideas/interests to exist BUT have those ideas/interests serve the Higher and Greater ideas/interests of Jews. It's like the Roman Empire. It allowed non-Romans to keep their cultures and etc. But the Empire also insisted that non-Romans all serve Roman agendas and interests in the end. Instead of universalism where everyone has the same ideas, icons, and idols, it'd be a poly-versal empire where various peoples would stick to their ideas, icons, and idols that, however, would be manipulated to serve the Higher Idea. So, Jews adopted a kind of neo-paganism for their own purposes. In pagan cosmology, there are various gods, but there is also the top god, and the lower gods serve the top god. Jewish manipulation of neo-paganism had non-Jews as lesser gods serving Jews as the top gods. This way, pagans/gentiles could have their own identities and cultures... but they would ultimately bow down to the higher identity and culture of Jews.

    And we see this with how STAR WARS became STAR SCHWARZ. It is still very pagan and steeped in the Carl-Jung-Joseph-Campbell thing, but it now favors feminism, jungle fever, Diversity, and etc to occupy what were essentially roles defined by European pagans. But we see the same thing with BBC. British and European histories are retconned to push the Jewish agenda of Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs with Jungle Fever for white women and cuckery for white men. Hollywood Jews said the next James Bond will be a Negro.
    The great western heroes, Lancelot and Achilles, have been made black in BBC and TV shows. So, even as Jews maintain the pagan idols, they change the cast to push the Jewish agenda of perpetuating white submissivism so that whites will forever lose white pride and identity. A people without pride become mental slaves and serve OTHER peoples.

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    Communism and Christianity(and Islam) were mono-imperial systems. Ideally, all of humanity should come under the One True Idea, and all men must struggle for the exact same principles and goals. Both have roots in Jewish culture because Jews developed the notion of the One God and One Truth, with all other gods deserving to be either holocausted or denied their validity/existence.

    In contrast, there was the poly-imperial systems. It attempted to conquer as many lands and people as possible. But it didn't believe there was one true idea for all. It was more about power and control than conversion. So, other peoples, the conquered subjects, could believe in their own gods, stick with their own traditions/values, and worship their own idols. However, they had to accept the Imperial Rulers as the top power. They had to pay taxes to the top power. They had to bow down to the military might of the top power. Romans were like this,and the Romans managed well with most pagan folks. But they had the most problem with Jews because, unlike pagans, Jews believed their God was the only true God. So, Romans had the stronger military and greater material power, but Jews had the stronger idea, greater spiritual might, and farther-reaching prophetic vision. Romans could win with arms, but Jews could win with vision. But to win, Jews had to develop an idea that could win over the hearts of gentiles/pagans. And that was Christianity. In a way, the spread of Christianity was a great triumph of the Jewish idea over gentiles. But because most Jews didn't take to the new faith and stuck with their own original concept, the Jewish Heresy turned on them. So, Christianity was both the biggest triumph and tragedy for Jews. Communism would turn out similarly. Jews won big and lost big with it.

    So, what is the best way for Jews to win? Self-enclosed tribalism won't get anywhere. Jews must engage with the whole world that is goyim. Should Jews come up with a universal idea for all mankind? But then, gentiles will eventually come to own the idea and use it for their own interests, and this might hurt Jews.
    Given those odds, the best way is for Jews to make peace with gentile ideas, icons, and interests but find some way to make them serve Jewish identity, ideas, and interests as the highest and greatest there is. It's like how Jews work with Evangelicals. Jews are okay with the born-again folks worshiping Jesus and etc, BUT much of Evangelicalism is now 'muh Israel, muh Israel, muh Israel'. Jews work well with Mormons, but Mormons are all about 'muh Israel, muh Israel, muh Israel'. So, Jews are okay with Mormons being Mormons BUT Mormons better still put Jewish interests above Mormon interests. It's like Romans were okay with Syrians and Britons, but those conquered folks still had to obey Roman power before their own. Even as Romans didn't erase other people's cultures and idols, those had to be made subservient to Roman culture and idols as the highest there are.
    And modern Jews adopted this, esp from Anglos, the modern folks who come closest to being like the Romans of old. So, the US is now about diversity and how different folks can have their own cultures, identities, and narratives... BUT they better put 'muh Israel' before anything. Jews don't have to attend meetings for Russian, Iranian, Chinese, Mexican, African, etc interests BUT all gentile politicians have to attend AIPAC to praise 'muh Israel'. Look at that whore Nikki Haley, the semi-person-of-dot.

    The COEN movie HAIL CAESAR offers a useful glimpse into this Jewish agenda. Like some other Coen movies, it is pretty mocking of Christianity as a religion that controls the goyim. Even though goyim have used Christianity to oppress Jews, it also tames goyim and turns them into saps who can be manipulated by Jews.
    Some people think Coens are respectful of Christianity. They are not. What they are interested in is the psycho-politics of Christianity, and in this, they share something with Steven Spielberg who has adopted Catholicist and Evangelical tropes to push his vision of Pop Jewishism on the world.

    In a scene in HAIL CAESAR we see a Rabbi who is offended by what Christian clergy has to say. Even though Jews have been anti-Christian, there's a kind of paradox. Jews have been so anti-Christian because they are so Christoid, conviction that Jewish individuals could become like Christ. The main problem that Jews have with Christianity is it deified the prophet and messiah into Son of God or even God. The Jewish idea of the Messiah was a great prophet, warrior, messenger. Jews never conceived of messiah as God or even Son of God. Jewish concept of the messiah is empowering because the messiah is a prophet, and a man can be a prophet. So, by the Jewish concept of the messiah, any Jewish man can, at least theoretically, be a messiah since he could be the great prophet. In contrast, Christianity says the messiah is not a prophet but the Son of God or God Himself. And that means there is no more Future. The Truth has been revealed through Jesus the Son of God, and humanity has no more need for prophets. After Jesus, there can only be saints. Saints are different from prophets. Saints don't have the great vision. They just have the pure faith in God and Jesus. Their duty is to be angelic and devoted. They are not seers of the Future since the Truth has already been revealed. Thus, Christianity destroyed the prophetic tradition. It allowed for many saints but no prophets. In contrast, Jews never gave up on the notion of the prophet. Since the messiah has yet to come and since a man can be a prophet and since a prophet can be the messiah, any Jewish man can, at least theoretically, be the prophet-messiah.

    In some ways, Christianity is more hubristic than Judaism, but in some ways, it is more humble. It is more hubristic in the notion that a Man who walks on Earth can be the Son of God, even God. To Jews, this was pure blasphemy, an affront to God.
    And yet, precisely because Jesus wasn't just a great prophet but Son of God or God as the Messiah, no other man can ever come anywhere near Him or be like Him. He is the ONLY Man who could be the Messiah since Christianity says Messiah = Son of God = God.

    In contrast, Judaism can be said to be more humble because it says no man can be the Son of God or God. God is too great and doesn't manifest Himself in human form. And yet, because the Jewish concept of the Messiah is a prophet, any Jew could conceivably be him. Granted, the Messiah could be like an angel sent from Heaven. Even so, he is still not Son of God or God. He is still closer to man if not a man. Since Jews defined the Messiah in this manner, each Jew is instilled with propheticism which is far more ambitious and egoistic than sainthood, which is about devotion and faith. A prophet is humble before God but confident of his vision as the messenger of God. In contrast, a saint is not about the power of mind and vision but goodness of the heart and faith. It's a bit sappy.

    In the conference with rabbi and Christian clergy in HAIL CAESAR, the rabbi says God cannot be shown in Jewish culture. And in the movie, we are not shown the face of Jesus in the movie-within-the-movie. But we see a lot of the Roman soldier. And we see the shabbos goy gentile studio boss, but we are never shown his Jewish boss Schenk who is like a godly presence. Both the Roman soldier(George Clooney) and the goy studio boss have two modes of behavior: soldier and saint. As soldier, he is rough and aggressive. But when faced with the greater prophetic power of Jesus, he goes into saint mode with sappy face. And the goy studio boss is the same way. He can be tough and push actors around. He whips the crew to get the job done. He is warrior-like in that mode. But he is deeply respectful to his boss Schenk who is like a divine prophet to him.(Schenk is like the Jewish prophet of capitalism; Marcuse is like Jewish prophet of communism; Hollywood is divided between two modes.) Schenk apparently has the vision whereas his shabbos goy underling can manage things but lacks the big vision. After all, Jews invented Hollywood, the empire of dreams where gentile-pagan idols and icons came to be reshaped to serve the Jewish Empire.

    HAIL CAESAR is a rather confused movie because its allusions are often double-or-triple-in-meaning. There is Scarlett Johansson as Rhinemaiden of Wagner's mythology. But she is swallowed up by what? Whale that swallowed Jonah? This Jewish whale also swallows the gold and then its blowhole ejaculates like Harvey Weinstein's pud. But later, this woman is like a perverse allusion to the Madonna. She is pregnant with a child from a uncertain father and she ends up marrying a guy named Joe, like Mary was married to Joseph. So,a character is alluded to both Germanic mythology and the Biblical story. Weird. And later a Soviet submarine emerges like the whale. I guess Sovietism is like the other Jewish creation. Whale of communism vs Whale of capitalism, both trying to devour the wealth of the world as a good or an evil. But the guy loses the money in the water cuz of the dog(like the dog that messed up the heist in THE KILLING by Kubrick). It's a very confused movie, but also a very inspired and interesting one. I can understand why it flopped at the box office. Though a comedy, there's a lot more going on there which is esoteric.

    Anyway, the movie is onto something. We tend to see history in terms of Jews vs Christianity but it's more like Future Christoidism vs Been-there-done-there-Christianism.
    Christianity says the Christ was among us, and He was Son of God, thus God, and we all need to be saints with sappy faces like when George Clooney looks at Jesus who offers him water.
    In contrast, Jews believe the Future is filled with new christoids with prophetic vision. Jews accept Jesus as prophet but not messiah. So, Christ was only a prophet, and that means there can be future christs or christoids... like Marx, Rand, Marcuse, etc. And the 20th century has been filled with Jewish prophets and would-be prophets. And this has been a source of great power for Jews. In the end, the stronger idea gains dominance over weaker ones. And the fact is the prophet is more powerful than the saint. Saint is a pawn on the chess board whereas the prophet is the rook or queen. Saint blindly and sappily serves and obeys the king. The queen and rook serve the king too but have their own agency and greater reach in movement.

    Because Jews are still in prophetic mode whereas Christians are in saint mode, the globalist empire has the weaker saintly ideas of gentiles serving the stronger prophetic ideas of Jews.

    lo Priss.

    Interesting comment, as always.

    For the OT, tale of Lot.

    For now, Israelis are at the centre of world trade in MDA and MDMA. and the soldiiers takiog them comnonly bugger each other.

    Have heard it from them.

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  158. Che Guava says:
    @KenH

    You cannot treat the klan or neo-nazis sympathetically. If that’s what you want you might want to fly off to another planet.
     
    Then you can’t treat the Black Panthers, the Bloods, the Crips, the NOI or BLM sympathetically either. If that’s what you want then get a one way ticket to your ancestral Africa.

    It’s a shame more of that didn’t happen in real life. Nat Turner and John Brown were heroes.
     
    It’s also a shame that African blacks were brought to this continent or that after the civil war they weren’t eliminated outright or repatriated back to Africa. President Lincoln was assassinated before he could effect the latter. Poor whites suffered greatly, too, and slavery impoverished them since it’s impossible to compete with slave labor.

    Just to be fair (((Hollywood))) should make a movie based on The Turner Diaries to foster and raise white racial consciousness and depict ALL blacks as mortal enemies deserving of the ultimate punishment. I’m sure you’d be fine with that.

    I’d rather take to word of the Smithsonian over a racist troll like you.
     
    Not sure if suffer from severe presbyopia , but the two photos of the negress math wizards clearly show them as light skinned blacks or almost white (in the case of Katherine Johnson) just like the “racist troll” said. I believe those women should be recognized for their efforts, but the Smithsonian can spare us the embellished and politically correct account which turns them into linchpins of the space program. But believe what you must to bolster your fragile self-esteem.

    Like virtually all white nationalists you are not in touch with reality whatsoever.
     
    You’re beyond hopeless if you think Jews and European whites are one people. That belief betrays your simple mindedness. You remind me of the blacks who think that every oriental they encounter is Chinese not realizing that there are Japanese, Vietnamese, Koreans, Laotian, etc.

    I read the Turner Diaries just last year. Not necessarily great for me , but very entertaining.

    So, some enterprising small-time USA people should just make a film of it. Forget Hellywood, just make it!

    Had a revelation in the last two days, Pahlaniuk’s Fight Club is based on the Turner Diaries, just watered down.

    He is so stupid, I have the version of Fight Club where you can switch to listen to Pittt boasting, Norton saying stupid things, the jewish ‘Englishwoman’ playing very English, and Pahlaniuk just sounding like a moron.

    I am convinced that Fight Club is based on the Turner Diaries, not least because Pahlaniuk is audibly a cretin.

    Have never read a Pahlaniuk story, tried at times at bookshops, too boring, but have read Turner Diaries and seen Fight Club,

    So the latter is based on the former.

    Anybody wanting to make a movie of the Turner Diaries would find many willing people,

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