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The rapid decline of the ITT for profit-college may represent a pivotal moment in modern history, as seen in rising challenges to predatory capitalism. ITT is in deep trouble, subject to numerous lawsuits, from the Securities and Exchange Commission and Consumer Finance and Protection Bureau (CFPB) for defrauding students. The con that is for-profit education is finally being exposed, and these “higher learning” institutions are increasingly recognized for their rapacious treatment of students. Within this context, the Wall Street Journal seeks to reframe the attack on ITT as the work of the big, bad government, which is committed to stifling the liberties inherent in private enterprise. Contrary to the paper’s propaganda, however, the narrative of for-profit colleges as a beleaguered David facing the onslaught of a brutal government Goliath bears little resemblance to reality.

In a recent piece in their “Review and Outlook” section titled “Obama’s For-Profit Execution,” the Journal attacks the Obama administration for trying to “kill a company without proving a single allegation” in court. The paper laments the Department of Education for requiring ITT to increase its letter of credit from 10 percent to 20 percent, in light of the possibility that the corporation will lose its accreditation in the near future. A letter of credit refers to the collateral a for-profit institution must maintain to assure that it can pay back money owed to the federal government in the case of bankruptcy, which may be right around the corner for the ailing college.

The ITT accreditation fiasco arose when the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools (ACICS) – the nation’s largest accrediting institution for higher education – alongside 20 state Attorney Generals, began a detailed investigation into students’ complaints of ITT’s predatory lending practices. Accreditation withdrawal threats are gaining steam in light of various government lawsuits filed against ITT over the last two years. The grievances against the for-profit are spelled out in the CFPB’s lawsuit. They include:

* Exorbitant tuition rates, accompanied by increased risk of student loan default.

* Dishonest lending, characterized by pressuring students to accept large privately-funded loans, without fully disclosing the details and loan terms to borrowers.

* Poor job prospects flowing from for-profit degrees with dubious value on the job market.

* The persistence of low educational standards, resulting in two and four-year educational institutions rejecting for-profit transfer credits.

None of these charges are particularly surprising for anyone who has paid attention to complaints against for-profit colleges.

What is particularly bizarre is the complete refusal of the Wall Street Journal to discuss any of the specific problems that have been well documented regarding ITT and other for-profit’s practices. The paper condemns the DOE for its “lawless” attack on ITT, independent of any effort to address why the school is under attack. Sadly, the Journalappears willfully blind to the realities of higher education. For one, a court conviction has never been necessary to pull accreditation from a learning institution with a troubled background, and it is certainly unrelated to states’ choice to investigate predatory lending in higher education. ITT will have its day in court, but this doesn’t mean it can or should avoid public scrutiny in the meantime, or avoid government regulations aimed at protecting taxpayers from the college’s looming bankruptcy.

The Wall Street Journal’s defense of ITT is symbolic of a larger political-economic culture in the U.S., in which pundits and intellectuals assume that for-profit institutions engage in valiant work by virtue of their for-profit nature, which ensures societal freedom and liberty. If ITT is inherently virtuous, as we know all corporations to be, why allow the bumbling regulators of the big, bad federal government to ruin such a valiant enterprise? If profits are next to godliness, then government bureaucratic efforts to interfere with the miracle of the “free market” are destined to fail and will only disrupt the wondrous self-regulating efficiencies inherent in capitalism. These free market fantasies have little to do with how for-profit colleges really work, yet such language is used to justify an industry that enriches itself by victimizing its clientele.

It’s difficult to characterize for-profits like ITT as anything less than parasitic institutions, praying on the ignorance and naiveté of first-generation college students seeking to improve their economic lot and career prospects. They are hardly “free market” entities, as they receive billions in guaranteed federal student loans. In light of the vacuum of government regulation, these corporations victimize students with impunity. Their educational “product” is widely regarded as sub-par among those in non-profit private colleges and public colleges and universities. Problems inherent in for-profits are explored below.

Exorbitant Tuition Costs and Predatory Lending

According to ITT’s own statistics, its students are paying astounding prices, between $45,000 and $53,000 in tuition for Associate’s degrees (see: By comparison, the National Center for Education Statistics estimates the average cost for an Associate’s Degree in the U.S. is $9,888,including room and board, tuition, and fees. I taught for half a decade at an Illinois community college, and tuition for an Associate’s Degree totaled $6,900 in 2016 dollars, or 13 to 15 percent of the cost of various ITT Associate’s Degree. Total tuition for Bachelor’s Degrees from ITT come in at a whopping $76,000 to $89,000, depending on the degree. By comparison, I taught for years at a major state university in Illinois, where four years of credits for a Bachelor’s degree now costs $44,430. Illinois state universities have seen significant spikes in tuition costs in the last few decades, but even these prices pale in comparison to ITT’s highway robbery.

When I attended undergraduate and graduate school at various public universities in the Midwest, the terms of student loans were made perfectly clear prior to receiving any federal financial assistance, because of the financial aid counseling process all students had to complete. I left the financial aid office with little uncertainty regarding what I was borrowing (whether I had the life experience to fully understand the dangers of taking on a mountain of debt is another story). But lending practices are lax at many for-profits. For example, the CFPB lawsuit alleges: “ITT used its financial aid staff to rush students through an automated application process without affording them a fair opportunity to understand the loan obligations involved. In some cases, students did not even know they had a private student loan until they started getting collection calls. The loans were high-cost. For borrowers with credit scores under 600, for example, the costs of the private student loans included 10 percent origination fees and interest rates as high as 16.25 percent.”

Poor Job Prospects and Low-Value Degrees

For-profits depict themselves as providing a fast-track for students to earn vocational degrees that put them on the path to career success and increased earnings. These promises are a conscious misrepresentation of for-profit degrees. These degrees are seen by other colleges and universities, and by employers as sub-par at best, indicating little value added in terms of enhancing students’ skill sets or increasing their odds of landing in a vocational career-path.

For-profits offer degrees as diverse as two-year Associate’s and certifications, to Bachelor’s, Master’s Degrees, and PhDs. But these degrees are the laughing stock of the academic community. For example, an online Bachelor’s or Master’s at ITT will do little to increase one’s chances of getting accepted into a nationally ranked graduate program in the social sciences, and this is well known in the discipline. A PhD from the University of Phoenix is not considered a credible candidate for a tenure track position as a sociology or political science professor. Simply stated, for-profit degrees are the snake oil of higher education. They evoke little but ridicule from serious academic institutions.

Echoing the above points, ITT’s problems with job placement are well documented. For example, the school places less than half of its criminal justice grads into jobs upon graduation. To make matters worse, without overarching federal benchmarks establishing how to measure job placement, for-profits are free to manipulate their figures for what constitutes a criminal justice occupation. And manipulate they do. ITT includes a number of positions in its criminal justice placements that have no business being designated so. These include: health care workers, AmeriCorps instructors, assistant store managers, auto claims representatives, and customer service representatives (see: Such is the nature of predatory “education” in a system that lacks basic federal regulations and standards.

Non-Transferrable Credits

Because the academic standards at for-profits are so low, community colleges and two and four-year liberal arts colleges and universities often refuse to accept their courses for transfer credit. Numerous students I taught in community college struggled to transition from the for-profit they previously attended. They simply weren’t prepared to succeed in an institution that held real academic expectations, after having been coddled and passed through at a for-profit. Put simply, these colleges do nothing to provide students with the skills needed to succeed in educational institutions with higher levels of expectation. In contrast, transferring credits is usually a non-issue between community colleges, liberal arts colleges, and four-year universities. State-regulated articulation agreements ensure that classes taken at one college or another are able to transfer across institutions, so long as the classes taken are designated as articulated. For example, in Illinois, the Illinois Articulation Initiative specifies specific courses across each discipline that will transfer without question as students look to move from a two-year to four-year institution or vice-versa. At the community college I worked in, there was an articulation agreement with most surrounding state universities, in which schools agreed to automatically transfer in students with junior status if they had earned an Associate’s Degree. In short, the transferrable credits issue remains a huge problem with for-profits. These schools cannot guarantee the kind of rigor present at other open and selective enrollment institutions.

The attacks on ITT are plainly verifiable – especially claims of high tuition costs and poor job placement rates – simply by looking at ITT’s own publicly-available data. Furthermore, the problem of non-transferrable credits is apparent for anyone to see based on looking up state articulation rules for which courses at various colleges do and do not transfer to other schools (schools at my old community college were clearly marked as articulated in the course catalog). Students can call up various higher learning institutions they are interested in transferring to and see if for-profit credits will be accepted. Contrary to the Wall Street Journal’s claim, there is nothing in any of these charges that needs to be verified in a court of law in order to demonstrate malfeasance on the part of the for-profits. This data is all widely available in the public domain, and demonstrates in black-and-white the predatory nature of for-profits like ITT.

In a saner world, the Obama administration would have wiped out the for-profit racket years ago. A Democratic majority in Congress (from 2009 to 2010) should have passed legislation prohibiting a dime of federal dollars to flow to for-profits. If these schools are such a great example of the virtues of free markets operating independently of government, then they should have to operate fully independent of government subsidies. In light of their horrific academic records, Obama would have been well in the right to refuse free taxpayer dollars to predatory institutions. Instead, the DOE under Education Secretary Arne Duncan implemented largely toothless regulations that did little to reel in the for-profits. For-profits would only lose federal aid eligibility if 1. Fewer than 35 percent of their graduates were repaying their loans within two years of completing their degree; and 2. If graduates’ loan repayments on average reached beyond 30 percent of discretionary incomes. Amidst these tepid regulations, for-profits were allowed to extend their influence over American higher education, contributing to a wholesale decline in educational quality and standards.

The overarching significance of the ITT fiasco relates back to the private assault on the commons. Parasitic corporations that profit from higher education at the expense of students have no place in post-secondary education. But they’ve been allowed to blossom under a neoliberal system that assumes government is automatically “bad,” that public goods are not worth defending because they are wasteful and inefficient, and that the commons are a relic of a bygone era. Across the mass media, in private think tanks, and among business and governmental elites, taxpayer funded goods such as public higher education are increasingly seen as an unnecessary burden. The costs of higher ed are being shifted from society to individual “consumers” (students), who are supposed to pursue degrees narrowly aimed at careerism and earnings (hence the growing popularity of the dictum “learning means earning”), and are divorced from learning how to become active citizens sharing collective social responsibilities. Education “reformers” passionately maintain that tenure, taxpayer-funded education, and public sector unionism are pernicious forces that must be eradicated from the face of the earth. Eliminating protections for the public and for workers will supposedly usher in a golden era of education, one that will ensure college completion and career success.

But ultimately, the scandal that is the for-profits has demonstrated the tremendous importance of the commons and public goods. Community colleges produce a far superior experience compared to the ITTs of the world, and at a radically lower price for those interested in vocation or transfer credits. Community colleges are defined by tenure track positions and often include unionized protections that ensure job stability for faculty and guaranteed health and retirement benefits. By contrast, for-profits offer none of these things. They have eliminated tenure entirely. They pay legions of adjuncts on a piecemeal, per-course basis, and pay wages that ensure employees are eligible for every existing welfare benefit. These institutions serve no one, save their shareholders and executives. They’re a model for how not to run higher education.

Fortunately, Americans appear to be growing wise to the for-profit scam. Many realize these degrees have little value. DOE statistics suggest that the number of for-profit institutions declined by 5 percent from 2014 to 2016, with the number of students in these colleges falling by nearly 11 percent from 2014 to 2015 alone. Enrollment in the highest profile of all for-profits – University of Phoenix – declined by half between 2010 and 2015. The declining enrollment at colleges like ITT and Phoenix is significantly larger than anything seen at community colleges, and four-year public and private non-profit liberal arts colleges and universities.

The era of the corporate welfare queen, for-profit college may be coming to a close. Long-delayed government action has exposed this industry and its pernicious effects on higher learning. Increasingly, Americans are wondering whether education is a good from which private corporations should profit – especially if those profits come at the expense of a quality education.

Anthony DiMaggio holds a Ph.D. from the University of Illinois, Chicago. He is an Assistant Professor of Political Science at Lehigh University, and is the author of Selling War, Selling Hope: Presidential Rhetoric, the News Media, and U.S. Foreign Policy Since 9/11 (SUNY Press, paperback, July 2016). He can be reached at: [email protected]

Anthony DiMaggio holds a Ph.D. in Political Science from the University of Illinois, Chicago. He has taught American politics at numerous colleges, and is the author of Selling War, Selling Hope: Presidential Rhetoric, the News Media, and U.S. Foreign Policy After 9/11 (SUNY Press, paperback, July 2016). He can be reached at [email protected]

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  1. Joyce says:

    With the exception of perhaps 25 high prestige colleges/universities I think the same arguments about worthless degrees can be used to indict them all. What is a degree in Diversity Studies worth in the marketplace? Ok, you can transfer your credits to equally worthless colleges while with ITT you can’t, but that’s a very small consolation. It’s only because the other colleges are “not for profit” that they remain immune from the same legal attacks. Of course the “not for profit” colleges just develop huge endowments. It’s not called retained profits, but that’s what these endowments are. It’s a distinction without a difference.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete, Barnard
    • Replies: @Barnard
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
  2. * Exorbitant tuition rates, accompanied by increased risk of student loan default.

    * Dishonest lending, characterized by pressuring students to accept large privately-funded loans, without fully disclosing the details and loan terms to borrowers.

    * Poor job prospects flowing from for-profit degrees with dubious value on the job market.

    * The persistence of low educational standards, resulting in two and four-year educational institutions rejecting for-profit transfer credits..

    These are telling accusations against ITT’s education racket. But the same points — except the last, of which more later — could be made against this country’s many “non-profit” institutions of “higher education” from one of which the author of this screed hales. I’d add that “political science” is among the many scam academic majors in this country — others are sociology, cultural anthropology, and the various fill-in-the-blank studies departments — which deliver least on their career promises to gullible students.

    I’d argue that one reason that “two and four-year educational institutions reject[ing] for-profit transfer credits” is that it’s part of a conspiracy to keep the scam limited to current members.
    Accreditation boards serve the same purpose.

    The fact is that while the costs for the accoutrements of a pretend higher education have increased astronomically at institutions of “higher education” in this country, the average level of education provided by such institutions has sunk to abysmal levels. My personal observations — and over the past forty years I’ve been adjunct faculty at several public and private institutions at both the undergraduate and graduate levels — suggest that the average college graduate today knows far less than the average graduate of a college prep high school curriculum fifty years ago, arrogantly thinks he knows far more, and has paid far more in real dollars for this faux education than he would have for an honest college education fifty years ago. Solid data bear this out: student-professor and student-administrator ratios have risen and continue to rise dramatically. At the same time, objective measures of graduates’ achievement, e.g., average performance on various objective tests such as Bar exams and other professional certification exams have fallen dramatically. Subjective reports by employers also confirm these assertions

    The beneficiaries of the entire “higher education” scam in this country, the professors, the administrators, the ancillary government employees and their agencies, will fight to the death to preserve the gravy train. Now, as the tax payers are gradually becoming aware of the scam, these vultures will turn on one another. Right now it is “non-profit” versus “for profit”. Sooner or alter it will be “better performing” versus “worse performing” “non-profits”. For a nonPC observer the early stages of this struggle will be amusing as the absolutely worst performing institutions of “higher education” in this country fall into an easily distinguishable yet sacrosanct group.

  3. woodNfish says:

    Anthony DiMaggio holds a Ph.D. from the University of Illinois, Chicago.
    Anthony DiMaggio holds a Ph.D. in Political Science from the University of Illinois, Chicago.

    Oh yeah, no bias here.

    • Replies: @Montefrío
  4. utu says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    For years there were ITT commercials on TV and every time I saw one I was convinced that this was the big rip off directed at poor people. They gave the same feel as some late night informercials. I am surprised that they lasted that long but I am sure the whole scheme will find many defenders among Unz righteous libertarian commentariat. Americans are real suckers.

    • Replies: @woodNfish
    , @ogunsiron
  5. Pontius says:

    I got scammed good and hard by a school like this back in 1998, at a low point in my life when I knew I needed more education than I had if I wanted to escape poverty once and for all. All I got was a $10,000 millstone around my neck and a useless piece of paper. So in a way, I guess I did get schooled. Everything written in this piece is absolutely accurate, and it pained me to see how much public money was being sunk into such an obvious racket, which led to no improvement in the lives of the students.

    • Replies: @Wally
  6. Wally says: • Website

    More childish, uninformed WWII propaganda.


    There are the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there are the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”
    – Gerard Menuhin / Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

    The massive numbers of so called “survivor$” are living testimony to fraudulence of the impossible ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    see research which demolishes the impossible ‘6M Jews’canard:
    ‘Holocaust Handbooks’

    • Replies: @biz
    , @AndrewR
  7. “These schools cannot guarantee the kind of rigor present at other open and selective enrollment institutions.”

    Judging by the decline in the quality I have seen in the knowledge and reasoning of recent grads from US institutions over the past two decades, this would mean ITT is horrendous by any measure. This is a somewhat low bar.

  8. @woodNfish

    Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio? Now we’re stuck with Tony.

  9. Once upon a time, a college or university education was pursued for reasons other than obtaining a “credential” to then obtain well-paying employment and was thus more often than not the prerogative of those whose families could pay for it; well qualified students of inadequate financial means were aided by scholarships granted on academic merit rather than some subjective “social justice” standard; that, however, was before institutions of higher learning became indoctrination centers geared toward turning out “humanities professionals” no longer necessary in the internet age, when anyone sincerely motivated to learn “humanities” has a wealth of resources readily available. Granted, such folks are few and far between thanks to the abysmal standards of secondary education, so the sad truth is that the raison d’etre for university-level humanities education has nearly disappeared. A STEM education is both desirable and necessary for those who wish to pursue careers in same, but the barista with a degree in gender studies has wasted his/her money, assuming his/her parents were foolish enough to have permitted the youngster to take out loans. Those parents who contributed their own earnings toward the folly of fake “higher education” can blame themselves but should not forget the fraud perpetrated on them by their accomplices, the host of humanities graduates whose true calling can be summed up as lining pockets by way of a cushy job.

  10. JackOH says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Close insider-observer of my local less selective Podunk Tech here. Would a one or two year moratorium on all university education help us to better understand the proper role of higher education in society? I know the idea’s politically intractable, it sounds kind of Maoist, but I think it’s worth pursuing as a thought experiment. (FWIW-what I’ve learned about higher ed the past decade pretty much horrifies me.)

  11. […] By Anthony DiMaggio  […]

  12. Public education is rife with degrees from colleges like ITT. A masters in education can boost salary for the same job you’re doing anyway, and at least some people knowingly buy a degree to that end.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
  13. Rehmat says:

    Many political aware people have found out that the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reporting is only good for American dummies. WSJ, like the NYT and WP are listed on ‘Israel Hasbara Committee’ as “friendly” newspapers.

    For example, on June 10, 2014, Simone Rodan-Benzaquen in an article, entitled “Do Jews have a future in Europe?”, showed his Talmudic contempt by blaming Muslims for Jew -hatred in order to cover Jewish crimes against 60 million French citizens.

    For the record, France which is home to 8 million Muslims and 450,000 Jews, never had a Muslim president, prime minister, foreign minister, interior minister, or finance minister – but currently Jews hold all those posts. In fact, Jews have dominated in every French regime since WW II.

    The French Jewish leaders in their self-denial don’t realize that their constant whining have united French nationalists against them and Israel. In January 2014, nearly 17,000 French nationalists protested in Paris to show their support for Alain Soral and French comedian Dieudonne, who thanks to French Jewish Lobby has been banned to perform in France, UK, Canada and several other European countries for his criticism of the Zionist regime and showing solidarity with Palestinian people. According to WSJ, some protesters yelled “Hamas, Hamas, Jews into gas“. Ignoring anti-Hamas Jew bigot, the protesters, in fact, chanted “gas chambers fake“.

    Simone is not the first Jew expert on Islam to whine about Muslim power. In April 2011, professor Alan Dershowitz also complained that thanks to pro-Hamas lobby, Jews are not welcomed in Norway.

    Michael Hoffman dealt with the said WSJ’s whining in a different way. He said: “Rodan-Benzaquen and Schwammenthal’s essay doesn’t take into account Israeli butchery of Palestinians and Lebanese, or the powerful presence in the Israeli government and media of advocates of anti-goyimism. They would not even acknowledge Robert Faurisson’s doctoral degree from the Sorbonne and his professorship. He is referred to only as Robert Faurisson. Dishonesty and partisanship permeates their writing.”

    • Replies: @Lawrence Fitton
    , @Stealth
  14. The root of this evil, which has been covered at Unz and other sites, is the worst Supreme Court Decision of the 20th Century: Griggs vs. Duke Power.

    The decision enshrined the toxic concept of ‘disparate impact’ into law, making any form of aptitude and intelligence testing a legal mine field for businesses. If a protected class score lower on the testing, the tests are “discriminatory and racist”.

    Before Duke, it was not uncommon to come across a skilled tradesman (i.e. Millwright) or an engineer that had little or no post education schooling. A kid out of high school would apply for an engineering assistant job at a local A&E firm. He would take a series of written tests. If his IQ, spacial reasoning skills, and mechanical aptitude were high enough, the employer would figure he was worth spending the time and energy to train. A decade later, that kid would be a full fledged engineer studying to take his PE exam.

    That is all gone now. When I went out into the job market (1994) out of college, I found out almost no companies trained anymore. This made getting a job, despite having an engineering degree a frustrating experience. Later, I found out that the Duke decision was why this became the case.

    • Agree: Barnard
    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  15. For over 40 years, it’s been well-known that degrees from these diploma mills are worthless. Anyone who chooses to go to one is simply trying to avoid doing real academic work at a real college and deserve whatever career and financial misfortune that come to them. Occasionally, some coworker gets a degree from one of these places and everyone chuckles, shakes their head, and mumbles why did that coworker waste their time.

    • Replies: @ogunsiron
  16. biz says:

    This comment has to get the non-sequitur award of all time.

  17. woodNfish says:

    My interest in this article isn’t to defend ITT, but to point out the glass house the author lives in. Public universities have been peddling crap for “higher education” for the last 100 years, and much of their “rigorous” entry requirements are nothing more than institutionalized racism and PC bullshit.

  18. Far be it from me to defend the value of the ITT educational experience, but nevertheless I think the tone of this article is a bit overblown. What exactly was the “scam” here? ITT was selling a product to willing buyers who were ostensibly adults, who should have been able to rationally evaluate their financial commitments and career prospects, and to weight the costs and benefits accordingly.

    It seems that nobody really takes responsibility for their own lives anymore. So now we have a mob of disillusioned ex-students using government lawyers to punish the institution which disappointed their hopes and dreams. This is thinly disguised anarchy. Before vilifying ITT, they out to at least ask themselves whether they should have entertained such hopes and dreams in the first place. As the saying goes, it takes two to tango.

    The real problem is the fanatical cult of education that we have in this society, which is all the more powerful for being relatively unobserved and unremarked upon. Higher education is practically an unconscious mantra these days; it’s all you ever hear about from parents, teachers, friends, late-night infomercials, from the culture at large. Everybody believes it, nobody questions it. If you try to break from the cult of education you run the risk of becoming a social outcast and a financial pariah.

    But the fact of the matter is that no institution—not ITT or anyone else—could have delivered on the promises that the cult makes. The cult promises a good career, easy money, a blissful work/life balance, and social respectability. Reality often destroys those expectations. A truly “educated” populace would be one that is more realistic in its assessment of life’s genuine possibilities.

    We need to begin to break this cycle. We need more young people working in trades, getting married, and raising families so that they develop a greater understanding of the kind of effort it takes to really get anything accomplished in this world. No one but the top 10% of academic performers ought to bother with higher education at all. The genuine scholar, the fruit of a long developed and slowly matured intellectual tradition, is like a rare and beautiful gem and should be valued as such. But the cult obscures it with its mass of dime store counterfeits. The cult has got to be destroyed before the gems can once again delight in their natural setting.

  19. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Bottom Line: Between the coming robot revolution and the central banks like the FED giving tons of money to those ‘Too Big to Fail’ Wall Street casinos, which is invested not in the nation, but in the stock market, the 1% no longer need a middle-class to go to work to make things and build, they’ll use robots for that and the free FED money to make money.

    People are no longer needed, so its time to shuffle them off to something else, like WW III.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  20. In 2002, I was teaching two classes part-time at George Washington University. I didn’t particularly enjoy the commute, so I would drive downtown during off-peak traffic periods, and hang out in a GW teacher-space, frequently hitting a few open-committee meetings to snag a few catered consumables there for the taking.

    GWU had a marketing consultancy business at the time. One of the meetings I attended was with ITT as a client. ITT was looking for advice on image-polishing, which the GWU experts provided with some zeal. For awhile, you couldn’t tell the difference between ITT advertisements and the GWU-promo stuff.

    • Replies: @Outwest
    , @Epicaric
  21. @Intelligent Dasein

    We need more young people working in trades, getting married, and raising families so that they develop a greater understanding of the kind of effort it takes to really get anything accomplished in this world. No one but the top 10% of academic performers ought to bother with higher education at all.

    True, very true. But you have to break the control of the oligarchs first. America today is a product of improperly regulated, out-of-control capitalism that has morphed into full dominion with the willing help of a corrupt government and judiciary.

    Fix that, the rest falls into place naturally.

  22. In my city, all the cops that want to be promoted higher than patrol officer, go an get some soft AA and BA degree in Criminal Justice from some nearby or on-line bogus school and the City pays the full tuition and books. The fire-whiners do the same thing with a bogus degree in “Fire Science.” In Massachusetts, since the ’70s, they’ve had what’s called the “Quinn Bill.” This state law boosts a police officer’s salary by 10% with an AA, 20% with a BA and 25% with an MA.

  23. Ken says:

    I taught for five years at ITT Tech on a part-time basis. I found the curricula adequate and my fellow instructors reasonably well qualified. If people would ask me about attending there, I would tell them that it was a poor value for the money. I didn’t see any obvious violations of federal regulations, but then again I don’t know much about how financial aid actually works. I currently do my adjuncting at a state two-year college.

  24. It’s difficult to characterize for-profits like ITT as anything less than parasitic institutions, praying (sic, really???) on the ignorance and naiveté of first-generation college students seeking to improve their economic lot and career prospects.

    Parasitic corporations that profit from higher education at the expense of students have no place in post-secondary education.

    Well, plenty of non-profit institutions are parasitic as well, and they should suffer similar condemnation, especially the part about preying on the ignorance and naivete of the masses.

    It would take a pretty obtuse sort of numskull not to understand that institutionalized schooling (whether for profit or not) is, and probably always has been, a scam. A huge clue is to call such mass training “education.” It’s anything but; in fact, it’s the opposite.

  25. @Greg Bacon

    You are right of course….except they need us to BUY all their Shit. They don’t have an answer to THAT….except, when the time comes, to take their hunk of corporate money (perhaps convert it into objects of safer value) & RUN. (gated communities, islands in the Pacific etc)

  26. ogunsiron says:

    I’m no friend of academia these days but you won’t see me defending ITT, Everest and other such scam colleges. There is a lot of garbage being taught at traditional schools but from what I read a few years ago, ITT and schools like it are purely and solely in the “student loan receiving” business and they are a *pure scam* with no redeeming features at all.

    • Replies: @Ivy
  27. ogunsiron says:
    @E. Rekshun

    What I read about the university of phoenix is that a huge proportion of its students are government employees who go there to earn “advanced degrees” so they can be eligible for promotions. The advanced degrees at phoenix are a complete joke but the ITT “education” seems to have been way worse than that. Also, the UofPhoenix degrees are mostly paid by the employers, while ITT and other “colleges” like that are paid for by the students’s loans.

  28. @Hell_Is_Like_Newark

    I could not agree more.

    Griggs v. Duke Power made it necessary for employers to find some less reasonable but still valid system for filtering job applicants after the courts made objective testing of qualifications a litigious nightmare. Employers soon determined that academic credentialing sort of worked. Persons with a college or university diploma had at least demonstrated some minimum level of useful virtues. It was also hoped they’d graduated with an ability to read, write, compute, and reason at some basic level. This has all too often proved a forlorn hope.

    The essentially complete replacement of testing with credentialing meant that ambitious individuals had to spend tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on what was for many nothing more than a credential, a piece of paper with a registrar’s seal. Institutions of “higher education” had a lock on this market and used their monopoly position to charge exorbitantly for their services and plow surpluses back into the growth of already bloated administrations.

    The nation’s colleges and universities now charge hundreds of thousands of dollars to four-year students for diminished services and are raking in billions of dollars. This money in large measure is ultimately being extracted from taxpayers. “Student loans” are actually pass-throughs that go directly from the lender to the colleges and universities. Now that these have the money they could care less what happens to the student debtors. Many of these are locked into horrendously burdensome loans that they can never repay. The taxpayers will end up footing the bill.

  29. anon • Disclaimer says:

    All these colleges and Universities are discriminatory against us dummies. Their very existence is a rejection of the All American concept that all of us are equal.

  30. Barnard says:

    The era of the corporate welfare queen, for-profit college may be coming to a close. Long-delayed government action has exposed this industry and its pernicious effects on higher learning. Increasingly, Americans are wondering whether education is a good from which private corporations should profit – especially if those profits come at the expense of a quality education.

    Meanwhile, Lehigh’s $1.213 billion endowment continues to grow tax free. That comes out to around $170,000 per student, while they continue to charge $58,835 a year for the tution+room and board and fees. A graduate who primarily finances his Lehigh education with student loans will lucky to be paying for the wisdom of Dr. DiMaggio by the time he is 45. Perhaps ITT and the U of Phoenix aren’t the real problem here.

    • Replies: @biz
  31. My son attained an associate technical degree for essentially free at his local community college.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  32. Outwest says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    My grad degree is from GW University so I don’t want to compromise its value. But the school is more about social justice than intellectual integrity. One of its part-time professors quite properly used the term “niggardly” in a publication thus causing a backlash. Rather than informing the ignorant the university reprimanded the educated.

    I attended night classes so I had no loans. Actually I learned more clerking in a law office during the day than I did in classes at night.

  33. @Elmer T. Jones

    Somewhat (but not too) dated info, but this appears to be another scam center. I just wonder who owns the joint.

    “…Career Education Corporation announced Wednesdaythat it would close all 16 Le Cordon Bleu culinary schools in the U.S. The last day for enrollment is January 4, 2016, according to NBC Chicago; after that, all current students will be allowed to finish but no new ones will be accepted.”

    Anyway, I know of more than one young person who were dazzled by the flashy cooking shows on the boob tube and couldn’t wait to place themselves in both a “cool” “profession” and in debt all in one go. None of them took my advice to just buy a Julia Childs cookbook and be done with it.

    In a similar vein, a few years ago I was conversing with a young Mexican chef at a ski resort and he said that all one had to do was to take a few food prep courses at some technical school and you’d be good to go. No fancy piece of paper needed.

    He mentioned that it would be money well saved so no wonder so many “bright” ‘Merkins can’t stand immigrants.

  34. @anon

    Naw, not at all.

    They exist to cultivate dummies and evidently they do a good job of it. Even worse, they produce dummies who think they’re both smart and knowledgeable.

    I know I just posted this yesterday elsewhere, (my apologies to those who’ve seen it) but some may appreciate the message.

    Ben Franklin, at the tender age of 16 and with two years of formal schooling under his hat wrote this.

    “I reflected in my Mind on the extream Folly of those Parents, who, blind to their Childrens Dulness, and insensible of the Solidity of their Skulls, because they think their Purses can afford it, will needs send them to the Temple of Learning, where, for want of a suitable Genius, they learn little more than how to carry themselves handsomely, and enter a Room genteely, (which might as well be acquir’d at a Dancing-School,) and from whence they return, after Abundance of Trouble and Charge, as great Blockheads as ever, only more proud and self-conceited.”

    Silence Dogood

    Silence Dogood, No. 4
    Printed in The New-England Courant, May 14, 1722.

    You can bet I didn’t learn that in no collitch! 😉

  35. @Rehmat

    what a lovely rant. so you hate jews. okay. but you’re diatribe has nothing to do with the article.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Rehmat
  36. @anon

    I guess you’ve never heard of affirmative action. These places actually recruit “dummies” if they are the right color.

  37. nickels says:

    Sadly universities are little different.

    A journey all the way through a PhD and a worthless job market, plus the realization that degrees are merely tickets for a train ride on the evil technocratic liberal brainwash and automation/destruction of society machine, make me personally wish I had just kept that summer job after high school and ran a front end loader for 20 years.

    I would have already been retired.

    • Replies: @E. Rekshun
    , @JackOH
  38. Zach says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    On one National Review podcast, Charles Cooke talked about his father having gotten his university degree while he was in his 60s and how people acted as if Cooke senior had finally completed some overdue ritual. We’re in trouble if a university degree becomes the secular equivalent of a bar mitzvah.

  39. Excellent article. The fraud also applies to the Charter schools that are growing rapidly.

    Also, let’s not forget that Hillary helped to promote another parasitic corporate for-profit school, Laureate, when she was Sec. of State. And, just “coincidentally”, at the same time Bill Clinton was paid $17 million by Laureate for a no show job for being Laureate’s “honorary chancellor”.

  40. @Jus' Sayin'...

    The nation’s colleges and universities now charge hundreds of thousands of dollars to four-year students for diminished services and are raking in billions of dollars.

    Don’t be so dramatic. Community colleges and state universities charge close to nothing for tuition for in-state students. One of the better state universities, the University of Florida, is just $6000 per year for in-state tuition. And, in FL and several other states top students tuition is fully or mostly waived. In FL, the scholarship program is called the Bright Futures and is funded by state lottery sales. Nearly all undergrads at UF are recipients of full or nearly full tuition scholarships.

    And, there’s always free college through the active or reserve military, National Guard, or employer tuition reimbursement.

    • Replies: @Barnard
  41. @nickels

    …personally wish I had just kept that summer job after high school and ran a front end loader for 20 years. I would have already been retired.

    Haha. Me too. In 1983, when I was 20 y/o and halfway through my Computer Science degree at a university in Boston, on a lark and as a backup plan I took my Boston suburb’s fire fighter civil service exam. I scored quite well and was offered the $8 per hour job. I turned it down because, you know, I was going to be a very successful, well-paid professional. Well, after two masters degrees, a couple of layoffs and blown opportunities, the “Great Recession,” H-1B immigration, and crushing competition, my salary today is exactly what it was in 1999. The high school grads that were doing roofing and warehouse work that took that 1983 firefighter exam with me retired in their mid-40s, protected with gold-plated lifetime health benefits, spending their growing high five-figure government pensions on trips, beach houses, boats, new cars, and good times; while I’m still working as a cubicle slave trying to fatten my 401K and hang on to 65 when I become eligible for Medicare.

    • Replies: @everyday feminist
  42. JackOH says:

    Agree. I’m the smart dude who went from a crap high school to a very selective grad school back in the late 1970s. These days I’ll see the occasional retired auto worker or government retiree. I’ll caricature: Harleys, mostly paid-off houses, plans for extensive, no-worry travel, a low-end hobby job that gives them an extra $1000 a month fun money. I wince when I think how “smart” I was.

  43. Barnard says:
    @E. Rekshun

    Using your example of the University of Florida, total cost of attendance for an in state resident is $20,661. A large majority of students are not going to be able to commute from their parent’s home, (or would want to for four years), so you can’t just look at tuition. The average graduate in 2014 had over $20,000 in debt, but the university has a $1.5 billion endowment.

    • Replies: @nickels
    , @E. Rekshun
  44. @Jus' Sayin'...


    Most things in this world can be explained in terms of supply and demand. I think the emergence of these for-profit orgs indicates there is very strong demand for an alternative to the traditional 4 year university. 4 years is too leisurely. Keeping everything within a campus enclave is too geographically limiting. Tuition for a ridiculous major, such as things with “Studies” in the name, is the same as tuition for STEM major. Professors in non-STEM disciplines make way too much money. I would guess that half of the students enrolled really have no business being in a 4 year program. There needs to be 7-8 new types of degrees, in addition to ye olde bachelor’s degree, that are quicker, require fewer credits and are more focused on what students really need. I don’t care if my accountant has read Canterbury Tales or studied western civ, but he needs to know accounting. So have them study accounting.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  45. No doubt that ITT is a scam. But it’s a scam made possible by the preexisting scam that higher education has become. The form of ownership is not the problem. But higher education in the for profit ownership form has made it, or at least should make it, obvious just how broken the system of higher education has become. Higher education will not suddenly be fixed by ridding the world of ITT and other for profit institutions. Clearly the author has a great deal of bias on the matter, as his concern over the greatly diminished position of power of teachers working for a for profit educational institution is a major concern. Higher education is broken because the monopoly power of the educational institution far exceeds that of the individual students who have little choice in the matter. Further, government loans and aid do not protect the students. Ultimately it protects the educational institutions themselves, and insures that the revenues keep on rolling.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
  46. nickels says:

    Not to mention that a white collar education locks you into living near a big city, which makes your housing and other expenses go through the roof due to competition, real estate speculation, etc…

    If you can get a blue collar job job in a small town (of course that can be tough now too) you might do better off $ wise.

  47. Ivy says:

    There should be a dead pool for the remaining scam schools. How long will Everest, DeVry and their ilk last in the wake of Corinthian, ITT and others.
    So many people got victimized by those scammers and they’ll be paying student loans for a long time.

    • Replies: @E. Rekshun
  48. Stealth says:

    For the record, France which is home to 8 million Muslims and 450,000 Jews, never had a Muslim president, prime minister, foreign minister, interior minister, or finance minister – but currently Jews hold all those posts. In fact, Jews have dominated in every French regime since WW II.


    Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t those positions currently occupied by nonJews?

    • Replies: @Stealth
    , @Rehmat
  49. Stealth says:

    Damn. Bolded when I should have Blockquoted.

  50. biz says:

    There is a myth out there that universities and charities should be spending their large endowments. That’s not what endowments are for. Organizations spend the interest on the endowment. If they spent the endowment itself there would be nothing left. To take your example, if they spent the endowment to give students free tuition it would run out even before today’s freshman graduate and there would be nothing left.

  51. @Jus' Sayin'...

    i’m a pretty venal guy; what’s the next trillion dollar scam? i want in on the ground floor…

  52. @Pseudonymic Handle

    Way back when the public high schools in this country had real business tracks and trade tracks in addition to college prep tracks. Students were prepared to go to work right out of high school in entry level positions that would ultimately lead to a middle class income with a potential for much more in the case of hard-working and/or especially talented persons. College prep was reserved for those students whose intelligence and inclination suited them for real college and university schooling. Now almost all the money that is funneled into public high schools is diverted to college prep programs that are not in the best interests of most students but help further enrich the coffers of our institutions of “higher education”.

    In Switzerland only the most academically motivated students and those aiming at a profession such as teaching (in Switzerland it really is a profession), medicine, and law go to the Gymnasium, the Swiss equivalent of a college prep program. The rest go to various specialized technical high schools that prepare them for careers in business, industry and the trades. They are guaranteed entry level jobs with a high potential for advancement when they graduate high school.

    A niece of a friend is in one of Switzerland’s business high schools. Her interest is banking. She is learning financial mathematics, finance law, standard operating procedures in Swiss banks, and several languages. Every year she does an apprenticeship in a Swiss or European bank. All of this is part of a public school education in Switzerland. Her friends are in similar programs but ones preparing them for apprenticeships in industry, trade, agriculture, etc.

    I only wish the USA would commit to being like Switzerland in so many ways, e.g., weak federalism, strong but completely non-belligerent military defense, a communitarian ideology, a welfare state designed for the benefit of citizens and operated in such a manner as to ensure balanced budgets, and a publicly financed educational system that should shame “educators”: in the USA.

  53. @ogunsiron

    it’s too true. i ran into lots of poor enlisted folks in the army that needed their college larnin’ to get their promotion points. one basket case stands out, for he was at risk of losing his security clearance over debt incurred at u of phoenix because his GI bill was revoked due to failing to meet GPA requirements(!). my question: what does an infantryman need these credits for exactly? i’d rather the QRF be at the range than the computer…

  54. @E. Rekshun

    sorry mr. rekshun, you are doing it wrong. maybe there’s some age-ism in CS but doncha know there’s a labor shortage?

  55. @Miss Laura

    A masters in education can boost salary for the same job you’re doing anyway, and at least some people knowingly buy a degree to that end.

    So true.

    I remember applying to get a teaching certificate after I graduated. I figured a few classes and I would be done. Enter the racket. They told me that for just two more classes I could get an M.Ed. Okay, fine. How hard can it be? So, I had to take the Miller Analogies test. No problem, tests don’t scare me. I had never heard of it, but I had to get a 36 in order to get into their masters program. LOL. The test was not hard and I ended up with a score more than double their minimum requirement which made me think pretty much anyone who speaks English and went to school at all should be able to meet their minimum. Well I started taking the classes most of which were a joke with the ironic exception of those classes which could be taken either as graduate or undergraduate credit. Same class, teacher, books and requirements, but if you paid the extra cost of graduate classes, they counted as graduate credit. The classes just for M.Ed. students were truly pathetic. One class consisted in explaining how standardized tests work and the class project consisted of finding the reliability and validity of the items on a ten-item quiz. And the students were all the time complaining how hard these super easy classes were. Mind you, these were all teachers. Scary. One day I walked into class to find only about a third of my classmates remaining. The rest had dropped rather than fail this simple crap. I will admit however, there were times when I got paranoid that I must be missing something because surely the content could really be this simple and obvious stuff.

  56. @Joyce

    Exactly. Just because something is set up as a “not-for-profit” doesn’t mean that some people aren’t raking in an ass-load of money for themselves.

  57. @ogunsiron

    It is not just U of Phoenix that is in cahoots with employers. I remember 20 years ago, a friend was required by her job to get a masters degree and they paid for her to go to Stanford.

  58. Alden says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The sales people, aka counselors do tell prospective students that if they get a specific certification they will get a job

    Because, there are plenty of openings in the specific field HVAC or whatever.

    I believe there are more computer programming grads every year than there are job openings. But it’s difficult to find that information in the media or anywhere else.
    But all our lives we are told work hard in high school get into college and a good job awaits.
    So it’s really not their fault because they have been lied to about the benefits of education all their lives

    As for the trades, Nixon’s Philadelphia plan pretty much destroyed the trades.

    The best bet is to get on the Internet, find out which electrician and plumbers locals are giving apprentice tests, sign up for everyone, study the test prep books and take every test given all over the country. If you check black on the application you might get in one of them.

    I know a lot of electricians and they all make between $150,000 and $200,000 a year depending on how much they work and how many hours as foremen and general foremen they get.

    No college, just a very hard test of math mechanics and spatial relations and a B average in all the high school math.
    But there are not many openings.

    Which brings up another point. There are just so many jobs in any given field Sometimes there are thousands of qualified applicants for a dozen jobs

    If these people suing are non Whites I hope they lose Griggs and Kaiser and Weber made it practically illegal to hire a White.

  59. @Barnard

    so you can’t just look at tuition.

    Oh, yes you can. Living expenses must be paid whether one is in school or not.

    The average graduate in 2014 had over $20,000 in debt, but the university has a $1.5 billion endowment.

    Yes, these non-profit universities should distribute more endowment money directly to students as scholarships to cover tuition and living expenses.

  60. @Ivy

    So many people got victimized by those scammers and they’ll be paying student loans for a long time.

    Every student that went to one of these diploma mills knew exactly what they were getting, and were simply trying to get some credential with minimal work.

  61. JackOH says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Do you know if anyone has attempted to quantify the costs associated with Griggs v. Duke Power? I’d first heard about the case years ago courtesy of the Pope Center in North Carolina.

    I have no expertise here. But it seems to me that, if in 1956, an employer is able to hire ten engineering assistants out of high school, then advance one or two of them by workplace evaluation, formal testing, and an in-house OJT program, and, if in 2016, those same applicants are required to have engineering degrees before they’re even considered for similar positions, we’ve got a whole lot of social discombobulation. Frustrated engineering school grads with no chance of advancement, student loan debt that narrows the list of desirable employers/vocations, etc. I could be missing something, though.

    I’ll echo Newark above. Public utilities in my area did have engineers without college degrees who’d been advanced by apprenticeship–hired out of high school as drafting assistants, demonstrated merit and initiative on the job and through formal testing, took a few night courses at our local Podunk Tech, then worked under the guidance of more senior people.

  62. @Lawrence Fitton

    Don’t bother. Criticising the Rehmat syndicate is like fighting an unusually flexible jellyfish. It is unlikely that the young outsourced stringers in Pakistan are even going to read a response aimed at their work.

  63. I wonder if this is a worldwide phenomenon. From what I read in local news there is an almost identical problem in Australia. Maybe it is mainly a big problem in Anglophone countries which have encouraged entrpreneurs to pitch for foreign students though there was recent bad publicity here for a company aiming to recruit Aborigines and other uneducated locals.

  64. AndrewR says:

    We are talking about ITT Technical Institute, not the Holocaust. Try to stay on topic.

  65. Anonymous [AKA "rockmatrz"] says:

    As an instructor at a for-profit school, in my opinion if all so-called non-profit institutions were held to the same standards as my school to receive TitleIX funding, a lot of their programs would never pass the smell test. Not a day goes by that I don’t see another story about high unemployment and crushing student loan debt of graduates from 4 year schools. When I went to fou year college, the instructors didn’t even know my name, much less what kind of job I got after graduation. I suspect that there’s very few, if any non-profits out there that can show job placement rates or justify tuition cost for their worthless programs based on the same debt-to-earning ratio that my school is held to. The trades in this country are getting crushed and the educational elites just assume that there will always be someone to fix their stuff when it breaks.

  66. mp says:

    There’s a for profit school in the area, Full Sail, offering quite expensive degrees in audio-visual. Mostly kids who might have the intellect for junior college. I was shopping for a shirt the other day, and a clerk, a young woman in her early twenties, asked me if she “could help.” I didn’t need help picking out a shirt, but we started small talk. She offered up that she was working part time, hoping for full time retail, but the store doesn’t want full time hires. She said she has a degree in hip hop music production from Full Sail, and as a consequence has accumulated over 70 large in tuition debt-debt she will never be able to replay. Sadly, she told me that she’s given up looking for a job in the hip hop industry. On the other hand, the girl would make a nice full-time sales clerk, but the current economy won’t support even that.

  67. Epicaric says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Well, it shouldn’t surprise. As Stephen Trachtenberg, former President of GWU said, GW is a big business that does a little education on the side. When Trachtenberg took office GW’s tuition was well below the national median. At the close of his tenure, GW’s tuition was well above the median. From a marketing perspective his pricing strategy was genius: he recognized the demand elasticity inherent in the market of failed Georgetown applicants; pay more and Washington, DC was still within their grasp, albeit two miles away in Foggy Bottom. There was a booming market to be had in catering to the second tier Political Science major.
    In an ironic paean to the glories of this non-profit big business that does a little education on the side, such issues can now be discussed in earnest by Di Maggio’s colleagues at the Stephen Joel Trachtenberg School of Public Policy and Public Adminiatration. A fine tribute to Trachtenberg, to be added to his honor of having been, in his time, the highest paid university administrator in the country.

  68. polistra says:

    For-profit schools weren’t always a racket. From 1960 to 1990 those schools provided a type of training that you couldn’t get elsewhere, and charged a price that was amortized by real jobs. After 1990 those schools (like all other schools) started sucking hard on the Federal tit, which allowed huge increases in tuition. ALSO after 1990, community colleges and junior colleges finally woke up and resumed doing their proper job, which they had abandoned in the ’60s.

    Now the jucos and cocos are unquestionably the BEST place to get training, in terms of both quality and cost. There’s no reason for the for-profit schools to get any sort of preference or subsidy.

  69. Klokman says:

    I’m not altogether convinced it is incumbent on the institution to ensure a valuable degree or high standards. Like any other marketed product, they should live or die on price/performance ratio. Government funding skews that toward excess and fraud.

    When I started college I did a number of things because I abhorred formal education from the first day of kindergarten. I looked at the coursework required for the degree. I examined the details of what was actually being taught in every course. If I was interested, or saw something out of the ordinary I went to the college bookstore and examined the textbooks. I talked to the department chair at length about the program and the standards expected of the students. I talked to other students who were already ahead of me in their degree work to learn whether they were getting their money’s worth from the instructors. I did not want to spend a single hour or dollar on something that was not going to give me solid value. In addition, before I started coursework I ascertained how many businesses there were in the area and what markets they were focusing on, as well as how their technical people were treated.

    Just talking to other students alone alerted me to the practice of college counselors packing certain disciplines to keep their programs alive when there was a glut in the field. AND, I had performed a preliminary run down on ITT curriculum, discovering in the 70s that they were way too expensive for what they delivered, and their coursework was not as esteemed by local employers as the State schools. It was easy back then to scratch them off my list. Such investigative groundwork was done every time I considered a school, whether Cal-Poly, Rolla, The U of U, and a few others. For me, if they weren’t offering something I could use, they were selling academic bullcaca.

    It is just plain stupidity on the part of the student not to verify transferability of coursework nor curriculum content.

    • Replies: @mp
  70. mp says:

    “It is just plain stupidity on the part of the student not to verify transferability of coursework nor curriculum content.”

    That’s kind of the point of the argument. A lot of these “students” really aren’t that sophisticated, and have no business being subsidized for this sort of “education.”

  71. Rehmat says:
    @Lawrence Fitton

    didn’t your rabbi tell you, the greatest haters of Jews are Zionist Jews?

    Yehezkel Kaufman in article, titled “The Ruin of Soul” collected quotes from some of the Zionist writers (Frishman, Lenni Brenner, Berdichevsky, AD. Gordon, Schawadron, Klatzkin, Pinsker, Israel Joshua Singer, Chaim Kaplan, etc.), which if repeated on air – would get you fired from CNN, BBC, CBS, etc.

    Chaim Kaplan, who kept a diary during the Warsaw ghetto uprising, wrote his Jew-hating observation: “Every nation, in its time of misfortune, has conspirators who do their work in secret. In our case an entire nation has been raised on conspiracy. With others the conspiracy is political; with us it is religious and national”.

    The Israel TV documentary ‘The Anti-Semitic Side of Zionism’ has explored the hidden Jewish hatred of the Zionist movement. The Zionist leaders distorted biblical texts and Muslim-Jewish history of tolerance and love – and adopted Jewish religious symbols to fool the non-Zionist Jewish majority and the Christian extreme.

    Israel-born writer and musician, Gilad Atzmon, has posted a brilliant review of the two-hour Israeli documentary. (watch a video below).

    It (documentary) is there to prove that Zionism is deeply anti- Semitic. The film is well made and very well researched, and the shocking quotes it outlines are all genuine.

  72. Rehmat says:

    No moron – The current president of France Francois Hollande is 101% Jewish. The former president Nicolas Sarkozy is also “Jewish” according to Jewish Shari’ah (Halakah) – because his mother was a Spanish Jew and father a Hungarian Catholic.

    French prime minister Manuel Valls is married to a Zionist Jewish woman.

    Marine Le-Pen, the leader of National Front has a Jew boyfriend and five of her ‘shadow ministers’ are also Jewish.

    It’s the paranoid idiot Valls who claimed last week that NAKED BREASTS represent French culture and not Muslim Burkinis.

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