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On the day President Trump is inaugurated, thousands of writers in the United States will express their indignation. “In order for us to heal and move forward …,” say Writers Resist, “we wish to bypass direct political discourse, in favour of an inspired focus on the future, and how we, as writers, can be a unifying force for the protection of democracy.”

And: “We urge local organizers and speakers to avoid using the names of politicians or adopting ‘anti’ language as the focus for their Writers Resist event. It’s important to ensure that nonprofit organizations, which are prohibited from political campaigning, will feel confident participating in and sponsoring these events.”

Thus, real protest is to be avoided, for it is not tax exempt.

Compare such drivel with the declarations of the Congress of American Writers, held at Carnegie Hall, New York, in 1935, and again two years later. They were electric events, with writers discussing how they could confront ominous events in Abyssinia, China and Spain. Telegrams from Thomas Mann, C Day Lewis, Upton Sinclair and Albert Einstein were read out, reflecting the fear that great power was now rampant and that it had become impossible to discuss art and literature without politics or, indeed, direct political action.

“A writer,” the journalist Martha Gellhorn told the second congress, “must be a man of action now . . . A man who has given a year of his life to steel strikes, or to the unemployed, or to the problems of racial prejudice, has not lost or wasted time. He is a man who has known where he belonged. If you should survive such action, what you have to say about it afterwards is the truth, is necessary and real, and it will last.”

Her words echo across the unction and violence of the Obama era and the silence of those who colluded with his deceptions.

That the menace of rapacious power — rampant long before the rise of Trump — has been accepted by writers, many of them privileged and celebrated, and by those who guard the gates of literary criticism, and culture, including popular culture, is uncontroversial. Not for them the impossibility of writing and promoting literature bereft of politics. Not for them the responsibility to speak out, regardless of who occupies the White House.

Today, false symbolism is all. “Identity” is all. In 2016, Hillary Clinton stigmatised millions of voters as “a basket of deplorables, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it”. Her abuse was handed out at an LGBT rally as part of her cynical campaign to win over minorities by abusing a white mostly working-class majority. Divide and rule, this is called; or identity politics in which race and gender conceal class, and allow the waging of class war. Trump understood this.

“When the truth is replaced by silence,” said the Soviet dissident poet Yevtushenko, “the silence is a lie.”

This is not an American phenomenon. A few years ago, Terry Eagleton, then professor of English literature at Manchester University, reckoned that “for the first time in two centuries, there is no eminent British poet, playwright or novelist prepared to question the foundations of the western way of life”.

No Shelley speaks for the poor, no Blake for utopian dreams, no Byron damns the corruption of the ruling class, no Thomas Carlyle and John Ruskin reveal the moral disaster of capitalism. William Morris, Oscar Wilde, HG Wells, George Bernard Shaw have no equivalents today. Harold Pinter was the last to raise his voice. Among today’s insistent voices of consumer-feminism, none echoes Virginia Woolf, who described “the arts of dominating other people… of ruling, of killing, of acquiring land and capital”.

There is something both venal and profoundly stupid about famous writers as they venture outside their cosseted world and embrace an “issue”. Across the Review section of the Guardian on 10 December was a dreamy picture of Barack Obama looking up to the heavens and the words, “Amazing Grace” and “Farewell the Chief”.

The sycophancy ran like a polluted babbling brook through page after page. “He was a vulnerable figure in many ways …. But the grace. The all-encompassing grace: in manner and form, in argument and intellect, with humour and cool ….[He] is a blazing tribute to what has been, and what can be again … He seems ready to keep fighting, and remains a formidable champion to have on our side … … The grace … the almost surreal levels of grace …”

I have conflated these quotes. There are others even more hagiographic and bereft of mitigation. The Guardian’s chief apologist for Obama, Gary Younge, has always been careful to mitigate, to say that his hero “could have done more”: oh, but there were the “calm, measured and consensual solutions …”

None of them, however, could surpass the American writer, Ta-Nehisi Coates, the recipient of a “genius” grant worth $625,000 from a liberal foundation. In an interminable essay for The Atlantic entitled, “My President Was Black”, Coates brought new meaning to prostration. The final “chapter”, entitled “When You Left, You Took All of Me With You”, a line from a Marvin Gaye song, describes seeing the Obamas “rising out of the limo, rising up from fear, smiling, waving, defying despair, defying history, defying gravity”. The Ascension, no less.

One of the persistent strands in American political life is a cultish extremism that approaches fascism. This was given expression and reinforced during the two terms of Barack Obama. “I believe in American exceptionalism with every fibre of my being,” said Obama, who expanded America’s favourite military pastime, bombing, and death squads (“special operations”) as no other president has done since the Cold War.

According to a Council on Foreign Relations survey, in 2016 alone Obama dropped 26,171 bombs. That is 72 bombs every day. He bombed the poorest people on earth, in Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan.

Every Tuesday — reported the New York Times — he personally selected those who would be murdered by mostly hellfire missiles fired from drones. Weddings, funerals, shepherds were attacked, along with those attempting to collect the body parts festooning the “terrorist target”. A leading Republican senator, Lindsey Graham, estimated, approvingly, that Obama’s drones killed 4,700 people. “Sometimes you hit innocent people and I hate that,” he said, but we’ve taken out some very senior members of Al Qaeda.”

Like the fascism of the 1930s, big lies are delivered with the precision of a metronome: thanks to an omnipresent media whose description now fits that of the Nuremberg prosecutor: “Before each major aggression, with some few exceptions based on expediency, they initiated a press campaign calculated to weaken their victims and to prepare the German people psychologically … In the propaganda system … it was the daily press and the radio that were the most important weapons.

Take the catastrophe in Libya. In 2011, Obama said Libyan president Muammar Gaddafi was planning “genocide” against his own people. “We knew… that if we waited one more day, Benghazi, a city the size of Charlotte, could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.”

This was the known lie of Islamist militias facing defeat by Libyan government forces. It became the media story; and Nato – led by Obama and Hillary Clinton – launched 9,700 “strike sorties” against Libya, of which more than a third were aimed at civilian targets. Uranium warheads were used; the cities of Misurata and Sirte were carpet-bombed. The Red Cross identified mass graves, and Unicef reported that “most [of the children killed] were under the age of ten”.

Under Obama, the US has extended secret “special forces” operations to 138 countries, or 70 per cent of the world’s population. The first African-American president launched what amounted to a full-scale invasion of Africa. Reminiscent of the Scramble for Africa in the late 19th century, the US African Command (Africom) has built a network of supplicants among collaborative African regimes eager for American bribes and armaments. Africom’s “soldier to soldier” doctrine embeds US officers at every level of command from general to warrant officer. Only pith helmets are missing.

It is as if Africa’s proud history of liberation, from Patrice Lumumba to Nelson Mandela, is consigned to oblivion by a new master’s black colonial elite whose “historic mission”, warned Frantz Fanon half a century ago, is the promotion of “a capitalism rampant though camouflaged”.

It was Obama who, in 2011, announced what became known as the “pivot to Asia”, in which almost two-thirds of US naval forces would be transferred to the Asia-Pacific to “confront China”, in the words of his Defence Secretary. There was no threat from China; the entire enterprise was unnecessary. It was an extreme provocation to keep the Pentagon and its demented brass happy.

In 2014, the Obama’s administration oversaw and paid for a fascist-led coup in Ukraine against the democratically-elected government, threatening Russia in the western borderland through Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, with a loss of 27 million lives. It was Obama who placed missiles in Eastern Europe aimed at Russia, and it was the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize who increased spending on nuclear warheads to a level higher than that of any administration since the cold war — having promised, in an emotional speech in Prague, to “help rid the world of nuclear weapons”.

Obama, the constitutional lawyer, prosecuted more whistleblowers than any other president in history, even though the US constitution protects them. He declared Chelsea Manning guilty before the end of a trial that was a travesty. He has refused to pardon Manning who has suffered years of inhumane treatment which the UN says amounts to torture. He has pursued an entirely bogus case against Julian Assange. He promised to close the Guantanamo concentration camp and didn’t.

Following the public relations disaster of George W. Bush, Obama, the smooth operator from Chicago via Harvard, was enlisted to restore what he calls “leadership” throughout the world. The Nobel Prize committee’s decision was part of this: the kind of cloying reverse racism that beatified the man for no reason other than he was attractive to liberal sensibilities and, of course, American power, if not to the children he kills in impoverished, mostly Muslim countries.

This is the Call of Obama. It is not unlike a dog whistle: inaudible to most, irresistible to the besotted and boneheaded, especially “liberal brains pickled in the formaldehyde of identity politics,” as Luciana Bohne put it. “When Obama walks into a room,” gushed George Clooney, “you want to follow him somewhere, anywhere.”

William I. Robinson, professor at the University of California, and one of an uncontaminated group of American strategic thinkers who have retained their independence during the years of intellectual dog-whistling since 9/11, wrote this last week:

“President Barack Obama … may have done more than anyone to assure [Donald] Trump’s victory. While Trump’s election has triggered a rapid expansion of fascist currents in US civil society, a fascist outcome for the political system is far from inevitable …. But that fight back requires clarity as to how we got to such a dangerous precipice. The seeds of 21st century fascism were planted, fertilized and watered by the Obama administration and the politically bankrupt liberal elite.”

Robinson points out that “whether in its 20th or its emerging 21st century variants, fascism is, above all, a response to deep structural crises of capitalism, such as that of the 1930s and the one that began with the financial meltdown in 2008 …. There is a near-straight line here from Obama to Trump … The liberal elite’s refusal to challenge the rapaciousness of transnational capital and its brand of identity politics served to eclipse the language of the working and popular classes … pushing white workers into an ‘identity’ of white nationalism and helping the neo-fascists to organise them”..

The seedbed is Obama’s Weimar Republic, a landscape of endemic poverty, militarised police and barbaric prisons: the consequence of a “market” extremism which, under his presidency, prompted the transfer of $14 trillion in public money to criminal enterprises in Wall Street.

Perhaps his greatest “legacy” is the co-option and disorientation of any real opposition. Bernie Sanders’ specious “revolution” does not apply. Propaganda is his triumph.

The lies about Russia — in whose elections the US has openly intervened — have made the world’s most self-important journalists laughing stocks. In the country with constitutionally the freest press in the world, free journalism now exists only in its honourable exceptions.

The obsession with Trump is a cover for many of those calling themselves “left/liberal”, as if to claim political decency. They are not “left”, neither are they especially “liberal”. Much of America’s aggression towards the rest of humanity has come from so-called liberal Democratic administrations — such as Obama’s. America’s political spectrum extends from the mythical centre to the lunar right. The “left” are homeless renegades Martha Gellhorn described as “a rare and wholly admirable fraternity”. She excluded those who confuse politics with a fixation on their navels.

While they “heal” and “move forward”, will the Writers Resist campaigners and other anti-Trumpists reflect upon this? More to the point: when will a genuine movement of opposition arise? Angry, eloquent, all-for-one-and-one-for all. Until real politics return to people’s lives, the enemy is not Trump, it is ourselves.

John Pilger can be reached through his website: www.johnpilger.com

(Republished from Counterpunch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Today, false symbolism is all. “Identity” is all. In 2016, Hillary Clinton stigmatised millions of voters as “a basket of deplorables, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it”. Her abuse was handed out at an LGBT rally as part of her cynical campaign to win over minorities by abusing a white mostly working-class majority. Divide and rule, this is called; or identity politics in which race and gender conceal class, and allow the waging of class war. Trump understood this.

    My bold. Very few Americans whether they favor Trump or Clinton are aware that there is a class war ongoing beneath the identity hype. Hillary took identity politics to the next level with her open contempt for white working class men. Americans should meditate on the use of the word “class” in this context.

    W.C.
    Class Realist

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    Hey WC,

    Awesome point! Totally agree - classic divide and conquer stuff. And as 'utu' stated, one of the very best by Mr. Pilger - showing again that, he might come from the Left, but he calls out the ruling elite no matter what their stripes.

    Some of the nostalgic and idealistic opinions on the 'Great Obama' penned recently by the political Muslim leadership was also very cringe-worthy. Come on guys, let's grow a spine again!

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  2. ” The issue is not DT it is us”.

    Nope it is not us either, the “Issue” if you will, is the fact that the democrats figured that they finally had their eternal one-party system in the bag, and DT, by not giving up, tossed a gigantic monkey wrench, into their works, and lets face it: If they had won, they would be unbeatable from here to eternity, and because such a heroic fighter spit in their wretched faces, they are now totally out of their collective mind(s), (which they were anyway).

    The supposedly intellectually superior leftists (democrats and rhinos) are unable to grasp the fact that when the system collapses they will go down with it, and the academic nutcases erroneously figure they will be the honchos, after the implosion.

    And please cut the “Anti-capitalistic” diatribe, we know that capitalism is bursting with flaws, but the only alternative is socialism or barter, and you simply feed into their propaganda with this tired marxist stuff. Capitalism is not a ideology and it it not a doctrine.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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  3. LO STATO CORPORATO ,written by the one and only Benitto Mussolini . The modern day manual on fascism. Inspired Hitler to follow with Mien Kemp. The Corporate State. Mirror image of post modern western Corporate raider capatalism. Democracy died post WW2 . I might suggest some people take up basic political science 101. Anybody labeling Obama progressive or left and Trump as right wing and fascist has no clue. Obama was Nixonian twat and was definately right of center.

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  4. per this:

    “There is something both venal and profoundly stupid about famous writers as they venture outside their cosseted world and embrace an “issue””

    For example, a famous writer for Newsweek, outside his cosseted world:

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    just discovered Tucker Carlson. He's great...funny and when I see his little frown marks appear at the top of his nose between the eyebrows, i start laughing.

    Maybe it will be Tucker who blows the whistle on race equality...He has a kind of baby faced innocent look and might bring it off.

    Joe Webb
    , @Miro23
    Thanks, what a laughable interview.

    Carlson calls out Eichenwald's smears against Trump and says that he's not a journalist, he's an advocate. Reads his tweets smearing Trump.

    Asks for a Yes or No answer to Eichenwald's claim that Trump was in a mental hospital in 1990.

    Eichenwald: No answer. Blah, blah, Trump smear, blah blah....

    Carlson 4x : Just answer the question, was Trump in a mental hospital in 1990 - Yes or No?

    Eichenwald 4x : No answer. Blah, blah, Trump smear, blah blah....

    Carlson : I'll give you 30 seconds to answer the question. Was Trump in a mental hospital in 1990 - Yes or No?

    Eichenwald: No answer. Blah, blah, Trump smear, blah blah.... CIA, patriots.... CIA ???

    Carlson: "This is performance art. Your Newsweek editors need to take a closer look at you"
    , @Skeptikal
    Wow!
    Unbelievable!
    This guy Kurt is obviously used to browbeating his own interviewees and has no idea how little sense he is making.
    Can you imagine being married to this guy?
    Or even related to him?
    I am speechless.
    Tucker did the only possible thing: Humor Kurt along and not lose his temper at the nutcase Kurt. How can this man be working for Newsweek?
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  5. Kyle a says:

    Better edit this one. Obama let the tranny go. So what if he was mistreated in the joint. Happens to all sorts of weak fellas in the pokey. Even if he wasn’t an “it” he would have had a hell of a time.

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    "So what?" Because rape and beatings aren't part of Manning's sentence.

    And by the way, don't be confident that YOU would fare well in prison, either, no matter how tall, muscular, or tough you are. If you're white, you will be drastically, drastically outnumbered and targeted in almost any federal or state prison in the country.

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  6. utu says:

    One of the best by John Pilger!

    The sycophancy of liberal elites for Obama deserves further investigation. Will it continue? Will the new climate under Trump’s administration open some channels for some truth about Obama to come to the surface? Perhaps it’s a time to unchain the dirt digging hounds.

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    Agree:
    "A leading Republican senator, Lindsey Graham, estimated, approvingly, that Obama’s drones killed 4,700 people. “Sometimes you hit innocent people and I hate that,” he said, but we’ve taken out some very senior members of Al Qaeda.”

    Tell us (US) Mr. Graham, how come that the US intelligence/security forces have been cooperating with Al Qaeda in Syria? Any punishment for the US deciders that gave Al Qaeda in Syria both financial and military support, including critical aerial information? http://www.activistpost.com/2016/09/u-s-attacks-syrian-military-protects-isis-in-deir-al-zour-thardeh-mountains.html
    "Pentagon decides to officially support Al-Qaeda in Syria. Sets up “exclusion zones” to shoot down Syrian and Russian jets:" http://theduran.com/us-pentagon-throws-full-support-behind-al-qaeda-syria-exclusion-zones-ready-shot-syrian-russian-planes/
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  7. joe webb says:

    Pilger trots out the old Pogo: I have met the enemy and he is us (or me). Well, that is true in part, we being human all too human, etc.

    Pilger is an old line leftist, whether of communist or neo-communist New Left type per 60s and 70s. I am surprised he did not plug the Gramscian and post structuralists, and po-mos like Derrida and the bathhouse guy, Foucault, and the whole gang of Culture is Destiny types, and, and, and….Power, Power, Power…and don’t forget De-Colonialization Holy Colored People! Gee whiz. Yeah, like Pilger says, homeless. but toothless, drooling, and yelling obscenities at the petty bourgeois types walking by laughing into their cell phones.

    Pilger’s Leftism is comatose. The class analysis is dead. The race analysis is correct, biology and blood and soil, and Evolution , and political struggle in general, with all its facets is back. What we got now is Holism returning to political events.

    Just a start…with Trump…maybe after he gives the Ghetto a couple years of hectoring the New Trumpian Black Man and nothing changes, and the Negroes start fires again. And really get Ralph Ellison’s Ras The Destroyer upstaging Malcolm in spades…somebody new, not has- beens like the usual black hucksters, somebody with some real fire. Kill Whitey!!! and so on. Van Jones mebbe, ripping off his jacket and tie like superman and screaming…kill, kill, kill . ahem
    .
    Maybe Trump will declare it, but I doubt it. It will have to be a professional joker, a comedian like ‘ya wanna know why us niggas do so much cuttin’? Its cuz we ain’t got no guns.” That was about 30 years ago…Dick Gregory? No, the cocaine addict….what’s his name.. Pryor, Richard Pryor. Now that was one articulate Negro!

    Yet to appear is a frank encounter with race inequality. When that happens, I guess maybe on Fox News ‘ Kennedy show with her antics and running around like Groucho, with a cigar… ‘you know, there really is no race equality…ya know? Ha ha….there goes my career…ha ha! Ya know….Emperor’s Clothes and all that! I’m just a brat, ha ha…lock me up…! Gimme my candy cigar back!

    I recall someone saying recently that if you tell the people the truth, you better make them laugh, or otherwise they will kill you.

    ha ha. Joe Webb

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    • Replies: @utu
    "I recall someone saying recently that if you tell the people the truth, you better make them laugh, or otherwise they will kill you."

    That's a good one because so true. But I do not agree with your tirade. It is more about class than race. Race and identity politics is a great camouflage and distractor that the top class loves so much to use because it works almost every time. The slaves from Africa were the greatest investment they ever made. It is a gift that keeps on giving. The multi-cultural society is all about it. The socio-economic system in Sweden will be destroyed by means of immigration because it kills cohesion, trust and empathy. They are turning Sweden into little America. Actually they are doing it everywhere. Brave new world. America everywhere. Hell on earth.
    , @annamaria
    We owe to Mr Pilger, to his courage and high principles.
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  8. joe webb says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    per this:

    "There is something both venal and profoundly stupid about famous writers as they venture outside their cosseted world and embrace an “issue”"

    For example, a famous writer for Newsweek, outside his cosseted world:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LANAXkHYAiA

    just discovered Tucker Carlson. He’s great…funny and when I see his little frown marks appear at the top of his nose between the eyebrows, i start laughing.

    Maybe it will be Tucker who blows the whistle on race equality…He has a kind of baby faced innocent look and might bring it off.

    Joe Webb

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    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    Just discovered Tucker Carlson?
    Under what rock have you been hiding???
    I don't even have a TV and I know who Tucker Carlson is.
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  9. utu says:
    @joe webb
    Pilger trots out the old Pogo: I have met the enemy and he is us (or me). Well, that is true in part, we being human all too human, etc.

    Pilger is an old line leftist, whether of communist or neo-communist New Left type per 60s and 70s. I am surprised he did not plug the Gramscian and post structuralists, and po-mos like Derrida and the bathhouse guy, Foucault, and the whole gang of Culture is Destiny types, and, and, and....Power, Power, Power...and don't forget De-Colonialization Holy Colored People! Gee whiz. Yeah, like Pilger says, homeless. but toothless, drooling, and yelling obscenities at the petty bourgeois types walking by laughing into their cell phones.

    Pilger's Leftism is comatose. The class analysis is dead. The race analysis is correct, biology and blood and soil, and Evolution , and political struggle in general, with all its facets is back. What we got now is Holism returning to political events.

    Just a start...with Trump...maybe after he gives the Ghetto a couple years of hectoring the New Trumpian Black Man and nothing changes, and the Negroes start fires again. And really get Ralph Ellison's Ras The Destroyer upstaging Malcolm in spades...somebody new, not has- beens like the usual black hucksters, somebody with some real fire. Kill Whitey!!! and so on. Van Jones mebbe, ripping off his jacket and tie like superman and screaming...kill, kill, kill . ahem
    .
    Maybe Trump will declare it, but I doubt it. It will have to be a professional joker, a comedian like 'ya wanna know why us niggas do so much cuttin'? Its cuz we ain't got no guns." That was about 30 years ago...Dick Gregory? No, the cocaine addict....what's his name.. Pryor, Richard Pryor. Now that was one articulate Negro!

    Yet to appear is a frank encounter with race inequality. When that happens, I guess maybe on Fox News ' Kennedy show with her antics and running around like Groucho, with a cigar... 'you know, there really is no race equality...ya know? Ha ha....there goes my career...ha ha! Ya know....Emperor's Clothes and all that! I'm just a brat, ha ha...lock me up...! Gimme my candy cigar back!

    I recall someone saying recently that if you tell the people the truth, you better make them laugh, or otherwise they will kill you.

    ha ha. Joe Webb

    “I recall someone saying recently that if you tell the people the truth, you better make them laugh, or otherwise they will kill you.”

    That’s a good one because so true. But I do not agree with your tirade. It is more about class than race. Race and identity politics is a great camouflage and distractor that the top class loves so much to use because it works almost every time. The slaves from Africa were the greatest investment they ever made. It is a gift that keeps on giving. The multi-cultural society is all about it. The socio-economic system in Sweden will be destroyed by means of immigration because it kills cohesion, trust and empathy. They are turning Sweden into little America. Actually they are doing it everywhere. Brave new world. America everywhere. Hell on earth.

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    I fail to see your logic. "multi-cultural " actually multi-racial, is promoted by 'the top class' by your argument. What for, to destroy the country.

    This does not make any sense. Capitalists want to make money, not destroy their golden goose.

    You seem to accept the equality of the races, and that the capitalist pigs just want to destroy working class solidarity...the old argument from the left.

    what destroys working class solidarity, white working class solidarity that is, is whites fighting among themselves over the Holy Negro. This was the intent of the Jews when they founded the NAACP. Then they wrote the 1965 immigration act, again to destroy white ethnic solidarity...get whites fighting over Negroes, and now all the Others.

    Where is your thinking cap anyway? JW
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  10. denk says:

    Donald *drain the swamp* Trump is reeking like the swamp itself !
    hhhhhh

    http://journal-neo.org/2017/01/18/rex-tillerson-biggest-gator-in-the-swamp/

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  11. Durruti says:

    Brilliant Article by John Pilger.

    “The obsession with Trump is a cover for many of those calling themselves “left/liberal”, as if to claim political decency. They are not “left”, neither are they especially “liberal”. Much of America’s aggression towards the rest of humanity has come from so-called liberal Democratic administrations — such as Obama’s. America’s political spectrum extends from the mythical centre to the lunar right. The “left” are homeless renegades Martha Gellhorn described as “a rare and wholly admirable fraternity””

    Lovely writing. Martha Gellhorn, Hemingway‘s lovely comrade in arms, is well worth reading.

    Predictably, Pilger and others waited too long (8 years), to nail Hollywood Obomber, the Frontman for the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Duponts, Soros, and other imperialist oligarchs. And the Mainstream Zionist controlled media continue to obscure Obomber’s role of covering for, as well as, assisting in mass murders throughout the planet, from Ukraine, to Palestine, to the rest of the Middle East, Latin America, and to Africa.

    There are no shortcuts: The Only Road, our Yellow Brick Road, is to – Restore our Republic (destroyed in a hail of gunfire on November 22, 1963).

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  12. You get a lot right John Pilger.

    The problem is us, the whole western world.

    We have become sybarites, pleasure lovers. They are the constituency of all the left wing parties in the west and the greatest supporters of the welfare state.

    Capitalism has little to do with it, they simply have adapted to the decadence.

    That is the problem with Trump, the sybarites are panicking worrying that their party might end. All the abortion loving feminists and homosexual men and women dedicated to their own pleasures, and promiscuous money loving men, all the masses of men and women on welfare who have decided they don’t need partners,or the wealthy couples who have decided they don’t need children, all of them, they have been in denial. They think this party can go on forever with endless printed funny money.

    Obama is their defender, they don’t mind a bit of hero worship, endless lies or death by drone so long as their right to screw anything, abort inconvenient conceptions and dispense with old wives or steal someone else’s is preserved.

    The problem is the west John, but it is a moral corruption that is the problem, and instead of fighting against this the governments of the last 60 years have encouraged it.

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  13. annamaria says:

    Bill Moyers, a senescent presstitute wonders why people want to look into the content of Clinton’s email showing the illegal DNC machinations to undermine Bernie, instead of believing the CIA and DNC line that it was a special mighty plan by Russkies that made the US citizenry to pass Hillary: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/we_cannot_wait_for_historys_judgment_–_we_20170117
    Moyers writes that the British agent’ drivel – “golden shower” and such – was planted by Russians to undermine American democracy. As if the CIA and M16 are not able to produce even worse garbage (aluminum tubes anybody?)

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  14. The problem with John Pilger…along with Noam Chomsky…is that he hates The Historic Native Born White American Working Class and European Working Class.Pilger is an enthusiast for flooding America and Europe with millions of high fertility and highly racialized nonwhite scab workers who are a labor subsidy gift to the Greedy Cheating ONE PERCENTERS.

    Barack Obama’s Democratic Party Voting Bloc is nonwhite. But Pilger and Chomsky will continue romanticizing nonwhites.

    I consider John Pilger and Noam Chomsky my mortal enemy.

    The mass of gang rape of Europa’s Women by John Pilger’s little Muslim darlings continues apace…..

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    Try reading the article when there is a pause in your intra-cranial war.
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  15. annamaria says:
    @utu
    One of the best by John Pilger!

    The sycophancy of liberal elites for Obama deserves further investigation. Will it continue? Will the new climate under Trump's administration open some channels for some truth about Obama to come to the surface? Perhaps it's a time to unchain the dirt digging hounds.

    Agree:
    “A leading Republican senator, Lindsey Graham, estimated, approvingly, that Obama’s drones killed 4,700 people. “Sometimes you hit innocent people and I hate that,” he said, but we’ve taken out some very senior members of Al Qaeda.”

    Tell us (US) Mr. Graham, how come that the US intelligence/security forces have been cooperating with Al Qaeda in Syria? Any punishment for the US deciders that gave Al Qaeda in Syria both financial and military support, including critical aerial information? http://www.activistpost.com/2016/09/u-s-attacks-syrian-military-protects-isis-in-deir-al-zour-thardeh-mountains.html
    “Pentagon decides to officially support Al-Qaeda in Syria. Sets up “exclusion zones” to shoot down Syrian and Russian jets:” http://theduran.com/us-pentagon-throws-full-support-behind-al-qaeda-syria-exclusion-zones-ready-shot-syrian-russian-planes/

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  16. annamaria says:
    @joe webb
    Pilger trots out the old Pogo: I have met the enemy and he is us (or me). Well, that is true in part, we being human all too human, etc.

    Pilger is an old line leftist, whether of communist or neo-communist New Left type per 60s and 70s. I am surprised he did not plug the Gramscian and post structuralists, and po-mos like Derrida and the bathhouse guy, Foucault, and the whole gang of Culture is Destiny types, and, and, and....Power, Power, Power...and don't forget De-Colonialization Holy Colored People! Gee whiz. Yeah, like Pilger says, homeless. but toothless, drooling, and yelling obscenities at the petty bourgeois types walking by laughing into their cell phones.

    Pilger's Leftism is comatose. The class analysis is dead. The race analysis is correct, biology and blood and soil, and Evolution , and political struggle in general, with all its facets is back. What we got now is Holism returning to political events.

    Just a start...with Trump...maybe after he gives the Ghetto a couple years of hectoring the New Trumpian Black Man and nothing changes, and the Negroes start fires again. And really get Ralph Ellison's Ras The Destroyer upstaging Malcolm in spades...somebody new, not has- beens like the usual black hucksters, somebody with some real fire. Kill Whitey!!! and so on. Van Jones mebbe, ripping off his jacket and tie like superman and screaming...kill, kill, kill . ahem
    .
    Maybe Trump will declare it, but I doubt it. It will have to be a professional joker, a comedian like 'ya wanna know why us niggas do so much cuttin'? Its cuz we ain't got no guns." That was about 30 years ago...Dick Gregory? No, the cocaine addict....what's his name.. Pryor, Richard Pryor. Now that was one articulate Negro!

    Yet to appear is a frank encounter with race inequality. When that happens, I guess maybe on Fox News ' Kennedy show with her antics and running around like Groucho, with a cigar... 'you know, there really is no race equality...ya know? Ha ha....there goes my career...ha ha! Ya know....Emperor's Clothes and all that! I'm just a brat, ha ha...lock me up...! Gimme my candy cigar back!

    I recall someone saying recently that if you tell the people the truth, you better make them laugh, or otherwise they will kill you.

    ha ha. Joe Webb

    We owe to Mr Pilger, to his courage and high principles.

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  17. Agent76 says:

    A very good article today Mr.PILGER.

    Nov 7, 2016 If You Vote You Can’t Compain – Larken Rose on The Corbett Report

    Your vote is statistically meaningless and will not sway the (s)election. Your vote is strategically meaningless and decides nothing about the future of the country. Your vote is useless, as the (s)election is rigged anyway. But as Larken Rose reminds us, what really matters is that voting is immoral, legitimizing a system of authoritarian control and empowering the oligarchs who created the system and control its results.

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    You're so right. The votes of millions of citizens were wasted in the last election. Nothing changed. Same old same old.
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  18. Us?

    Pilger’s never been an American. I guess this is a great way to criticize Americans nicely if not honestly.

    That’s a nice photo of Botany Bay at the top of the article, isn’t it?

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  19. I’m no Obama fan, but the Brits and the French were the real instigators of the Libya mess. If you look at the record, British newspapers were mocking Obama’s “dithering” on Libya in Feb. 2011 while they had already decided Gaddafi had to go. The genocide lies came from them, just as the Brits came up with the lies about Belgian babies in 1915 and Iraqi WMDs in 2002. Lies are their #1 export.

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    "If you look at the record, British newspapers were mocking Obama’s “dithering” on Libya in Feb. 2011"

    Sounds like "devil made him do it!"

    The Brits didn't force Obama to commit the rape and destruction of libya.
    And we already know Hillary's role.
    , @Skeptikal
    "If you look at the record, British newspapers were mocking Obama’s “dithering” on Libya in Feb. 2011"

    Sounds like "devil made him do it!"

    The Brits didn't force Obama to commit the rape and destruction of libya.
    And we already know Hillary's role.
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  20. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @War for Blair Mountain
    The problem with John Pilger...along with Noam Chomsky...is that he hates The Historic Native Born White American Working Class and European Working Class.Pilger is an enthusiast for flooding America and Europe with millions of high fertility and highly racialized nonwhite scab workers who are a labor subsidy gift to the Greedy Cheating ONE PERCENTERS.


    Barack Obama's Democratic Party Voting Bloc is nonwhite. But Pilger and Chomsky will continue romanticizing nonwhites.


    I consider John Pilger and Noam Chomsky my mortal enemy.


    The mass of gang rape of Europa's Women by John Pilger's little Muslim darlings continues apace.....

    Try reading the article when there is a pause in your intra-cranial war.

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    You obviously don't know John Pilger's full range of views. John Pilger is an enthusiast for flooding Europe with young Muslim Male Gang Rapists.

    The honest leftists over at Counterpunch understand the utter moral rancidity of the inner core of the Clinton's Democratic Party. Pilger-Chomsky solution:wipe away the borders of the US. Pilger...Chomsky...Jeffrey Saint Claire...all share the number one fundamental goal of the Clinton's and Obama:The Demographic murder of The Historic Native Born White American Working Class-full speed ahead with the Democratic Party's open and deliberate policy of Genocide.
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  21. TheJester says:

    “A writer,” the journalist Martha Gellhorn told the second congress, “must be a man of action now . . . A man who has given a year of his life to steel strikes, or to the unemployed, or to the problems of racial prejudice, has not lost or wasted time. He is a man who has known where he belonged. If you should survive such action, what you have to say about it afterwards is the truth, is necessary and real, and it will last.”

    You could have done better than quoting Martha Gellhorn to make your point about journalists needing real-world experience for credibility. Gellhorn was Ernest Hemmingway’s lover and, one presumes, considered him the paradigm of a “man of action” for his heavy drinking, “blood sport” with big game hunting, and his war novels. However, Hemmingway is perhaps better described as a man who fantasized he was a “man of action” when in reality he was a writer who wrote about “men of action”.

    Further, to suggest that … “(A man of action) is a man who has known where he belonged. If you should survive such action, what you have to say about it afterwards is the truth, is necessary and real, and it will last,” is blatant relativism, perfectly capturing the post-WWI nihilism of the 1930s. To Gellhorn and Hemmingway, “action” took precedence over truth because, as she said, “(Action) is the truth, is necessary and real, and it will last.”

    In a relativist world, success through “action” is everything. In a relativist world, there is no difference between difference sides in political and social antagonisms. It is the “will to power”. Unfortunately, Hitler and Stalin beat Gellhorn and Hemmingway to the punch with that point of view.

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  22. @anonymous
    Try reading the article when there is a pause in your intra-cranial war.

    You obviously don’t know John Pilger’s full range of views. John Pilger is an enthusiast for flooding Europe with young Muslim Male Gang Rapists.

    The honest leftists over at Counterpunch understand the utter moral rancidity of the inner core of the Clinton’s Democratic Party. Pilger-Chomsky solution:wipe away the borders of the US. Pilger…Chomsky…Jeffrey Saint Claire…all share the number one fundamental goal of the Clinton’s and Obama:The Demographic murder of The Historic Native Born White American Working Class-full speed ahead with the Democratic Party’s open and deliberate policy of Genocide.

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    Pilger is one of the most courageous warriors against neo-liberal bloody empire. He has proven his courage and tenacity again and again. He is the mensch.
    If Europe is flooded with refugees from Middle East, and migrants from sub-saharan Africa, this is because of the profiteering scoundrels like Cheney, Bush, and Blair (note that all three are White Christians) and their jolly ziocon retinue & masters. Give the dues to the real scum instead of attacking the messenger. In addition, what exactly the "Historic Native Born White Americans" have been doing in a company of less "historic Americans" in the countries of Middle East? - Killing and looting in the name of the Fed.Reserve and major US corporations.
    Stop squeezing the natives from the Middle East and ruining the defense posts (like the former Libya) against the sub-saharan migrants; this would be the best prevention of the human misery and "liberation" of thugs, which affects Europe right now.
    , @joe webb
    righto. The working class, when relatively well paid, as in post-war America up until about 1973 when its share of the pie began to be nibbled away by various factors...union weakness, and the beginning of cheap foreign labor, etc., had accepted the 'harmonious hierarchy' social contract of Social Democracy. Ditto Europe.

    Part of this Social Democratic contract was possible because of post-war US affluence due to the fact of US productivity (no war damage compared to Europe), as well as to the oft stated argument that high wages were granted because of the possible appeal of communism, etc. I guess that makes some sense.

    So harmonious hierarchy has been a fact, and was expressed in Norman Rockwell's Americana pictures. White working class folks have been realistic and not Revolutionary, despite endless appeals from communists, socialists, jews, and other mischief makers.

    Example: today, working class whites rally to a billionaire's vision of good jobs and good pay. Trump is not a class struggle guy, he is a harmonious hierarchy guy, a capitalist who puts his country first, his white people first (obviously, since he cannot be so dumb as to believe his rhetoric about Transformation of the Ghetto), and colored immigrants OUT.

    Race vs. Class. Of course there is a place for class in the sense of economic welfare...decent wages. The Class Struggle of the Left, historically , has privileged, to coin a phrase, workers as more moral and decent and most importantly, more in tune with their Historic Role to Lead all workers to the Paradise of communism, socialism, what have you, and do not overlook the recent Rainbow fantasies as well.

    This has been a total failure, and will remain so, since White workers know what they are, not that smart, and no better as human beings than any other "class".... and probably worse, given the fact that our jails contain mostly working class whites, not other classes of whites.

    And they will have none of the nonsense about racial equality. I have traveled all over the US West and talked to many, many folks. If they live anywhere near to an Indian reservation, the people they hate most are injuns. Then, the blacks, and occasionally they will mention, unprompted, jews. They also hate the mexicans...everywhere. and this is true locally for working class folks...San Mateo County south of SF , which is run by the booboisie of upper middle-class white liberals who make their money from globalism, especially Silicon Valley, valley of the capons.

    The "agency" of any particular class has been proven to be yet another leftwing or even Managerialist mirage.

    Certainly, economics and technology is very important, but it drives itself, like an Invisible Hand.

    The white folks who, like the libertarians, celebrate this stuff are oblivious of race, country, evolution, genetic similarity, as well as religion. America is very religious, of the Protestant type (and therefore in luv with the Jews), and Hard Work and more hard work and savings is part of our DNA.

    Just yesterday, I talked to my tailor guy, a Serb immigrant like 50 plus years ago. He has worked at his one-man shop for 45 years, his wife also works at a school, he bought an apartment building in Menlo Park, CA . in the 80s for about 450,000 dollars and he is now getting offers in the high 3 million dollars vicinity. He has no intention to quit working, he likes his work, and he has children to leave his money to. That is Whiteness.

    Forget Class as major or primary. It has a modest role to play.
    Blacks don't like to work, or save, or etc. I am told by many employer types that white kids don't want to work now. This is a disaster.

    Get rid of mexicans in the labor force, and white wages will rise, and so will productivity.
    Get rid of globalism, yes, an attack on white workers, and white workers will respond as Americans, not as "workers.' This is obvious from the chants of white Trump supporters...USA, USA, USA... This is nationalism and white race Identity.

    Race. and economic factors fall in line within the general context of Whiteness.

    Joe Webb
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  23. In 2014, the Obama’s administration oversaw and paid for a fascist-led coup in Ukraine against the democratically-elected government, threatening Russia in the western borderland through Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, with a loss of 27 million lives.

    The same lie Putin has been peddling since he stole Crimea and invaded the Donbas. It is patently false and when you see this lie, you can bet the man writing it has heard the dog whistle and is obediently running to his master, tail wagging.

    Russia is a Fascist. You can criticize the government in Ukraine. Try it in Russia, if you like waking up dead, as Nemtsov, and others, have found.

    By the by, Nelson “I am Not A Terrorist” Mandela was a terrorist and was righteously jailed. The explosives he had been running killed mostly blacks. He should have been left to rot on Robbins Island. The rest in Africa were just as bad.

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    Is this Anna Nemtsova profiteering on her dead dad' fame? At the time of his death Nemtsov held a 2%-approval rate in Russia; he was financed by western NGO (wonder why) and he was despised by the general population in Russia.
    Or perhaps you are a voice from Mrs. Nuland-Kagan quarters? How about a Ukrainian journalist Buzina? http://www.ibtimes.com/who-are-oles-buzina-sergey-sukhobok-2-pro-russian-ukrainian-journalists-killed-kiev-1884863
    What about your mighty Kolomojsky, a financier of the thugs that burn ALIVE the scores of civilians in Odessa? What about your shameful Banderite parades in honor of the Nazi collaborator who got fame for organizing the massive hunts of European anti-nazi partisans? The Canadian progeny of the criminals has been exposed as the main supporters of Ukrainian neo-Nazis.
    But of course you are proud to enjoy the great fruit of Kagans'-carried liberation of Ukraine - the disappearance of corruption and such... Please enlighten the readers.
    , @bluedog
    Beware the man that can't see his own sin under his nose,Russia is no more fascist than we are if one looks to fascism, where business and government occupies the same bed,where according to us Russia spies on us while we spy on the whole world,where according to you Russia kills all who should criticize while we simply kill with our instigated color revolutions and pass it off with "fuck the EU Yats is our man"...
    , @Authenticjazzman
    " Russia is a Facist"

    Hogwash, Russia is light years away from Facism, you really don't know what you are blathering about, typical leftist, that you are.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.
    , @Bill
    For pity's sake, the Maidan thugs didn't even try to hide the fact that they are Nazis. They're proud of it.
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  24. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Divide and rule, this is called; or identity politics in which race and gender conceal class, and allow the waging of class war. Trump understood this.

    This has been their winning strategy for many years now. Perhaps it’s wearing thin as it’s become more extreme, the rhetoric more shrill and abusive towards the ‘enemy’, now labeled as ‘deplorables’. It’s metastasized into an ongoing hate campaign. Liberal hero Bill Clinton ushered in the NAFTA trade deal which helped put many Mexicans out of work. This helped spur the immigration trail into the US which as everyone knows has become a big issue. Yet hardly anyone connects the Clintons with having sparked this movement. There’s nothing liberal or left about these left liberals. There’s the reality and then there’s the crafted image. It’s just a game of deceiving the public.

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  25. Agent76 says:

    Jan 18, 2017 Raising Consciousness and Creating New Systems to Create a Freer World

    Jeff interviews Avatar Master Adam Williams, topics include: self transformation and freedom, from wall st to wellness, finding more meaning in life, the Avatar course, the importance of real life experience, overcoming behavioral issues, the failure of outdated systems, online poker, Bitcoin, a better system that makes the old system obsolete, a growing movement, the permanent traveler lifestyle, Holland a relatively enlightened country, travel makes you richer, Anarchapulco might fill up!

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  26. Wally says: • Website

    Pilger reveals his own indoctrination with this loopy nonsense:

    “Like the fascism of the 1930s, big lies are delivered with the precision of a metronome: thanks to an omnipresent media whose description now fits that of the Nuremberg prosecutor: “Before each major aggression, with some few exceptions based on expediency, they initiated a press campaign calculated to weaken their victims and to prepare the German people psychologically … In the propaganda system … it was the daily press and the radio that were the most important weapons.”

    Prepare for what, the fraudulent ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’?

    Pilger is using a classic example of garbage in, garbage out. He accepts impossible propaganda as fact and proceeds from that point.

    It’s time to grow up.

    The facts about Nuremberg:

    [MORE]

    Recall that at Nuremberg is was stated that ‘the court was not bound by technical rules of evidence.’ Ahem.

    The official use of torture in extracting “confessions” from Germans has been confirmed repeatedly.

    - All but two of the Germans [on trial at Nuremberg], in the 139 cases that we investigated, had their testicles kicked in beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators:” 23.1.49, The Sunday Pictorial (quoted in For Those Who Cannot Speak (ref. 27), p.21.The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months..The investigators would put a black hood over the accused’s head, punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses. American judge, van Roden

    - Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    ” The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history.”
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    - All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was Standard Operating Procedure with American investigators.
    by Judge E. L. van Roden, “American Atrocities in Germany”, The Progressive. February 1949, p. 21f.

    - Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred.
    - Congressional Record, appendix. v. 95,sec.12, 3/10/49

    - “The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to [Bernard] Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: ‘Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.’”(12)
    12.R. Butler, Legions of Death, Hamlyn, (London, 1983), p.237

    - The admission of Bernard Clarke was corroborated by Mr. Ken Jones in ‘The Wrexham Leader’, October 17, 1986.
    Mr. Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid in Schleswig-Holstein.
    “They brought him to us when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activites during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks,” recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Hoess in his cell to help break him down for interrogation.”
    “We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to help break down his resistance,” said Mr. Jones.
    and:
    - “The London Cage was used partly as a torture centre, inside which large numbers of German officers and soldiers were subjected to systematic ill-treatment. In total 3,573 men passed through the Cage, and more than 1,000 were persuaded to give statements about war crimes. The brutality did not end with the war, moreover: a number of German civilians joined the servicemen who were interrogated there up to 1948.
    As the work of the Cage was wound down, the interrogation of prisoners was switched to a number of internment camps in Germany. And there is evidence that the treatment meted out in these places was, if anything, far worse. While many of the papers relating to these interrogation centres remain sealed at the Foreign Office, it is clear that one camp in the British zone became particularly notorious. At least two German prisoners starved to death there, according to a court of inquiry, while others were shot for minor offences.

    - There was no legal precedent for this, one official noted, besides which “any court of inquiry into these allegations would be futile”.

    - In one complaint lodged at the National Archives, a 27-year-old German journalist being held at this camp said he had spent two years as a prisoner of the Gestapo. And not once, he said, did they treat him as badly as the British.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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    Your van Roden quote is spurious, particularly the reference to Nuremberg. He wasn't at Nuremberg. He was involved in a military tribunal trying the men responsible for Malmedy.
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  27. annamaria says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    You obviously don't know John Pilger's full range of views. John Pilger is an enthusiast for flooding Europe with young Muslim Male Gang Rapists.

    The honest leftists over at Counterpunch understand the utter moral rancidity of the inner core of the Clinton's Democratic Party. Pilger-Chomsky solution:wipe away the borders of the US. Pilger...Chomsky...Jeffrey Saint Claire...all share the number one fundamental goal of the Clinton's and Obama:The Demographic murder of The Historic Native Born White American Working Class-full speed ahead with the Democratic Party's open and deliberate policy of Genocide.

    Pilger is one of the most courageous warriors against neo-liberal bloody empire. He has proven his courage and tenacity again and again. He is the mensch.
    If Europe is flooded with refugees from Middle East, and migrants from sub-saharan Africa, this is because of the profiteering scoundrels like Cheney, Bush, and Blair (note that all three are White Christians) and their jolly ziocon retinue & masters. Give the dues to the real scum instead of attacking the messenger. In addition, what exactly the “Historic Native Born White Americans” have been doing in a company of less “historic Americans” in the countries of Middle East? – Killing and looting in the name of the Fed.Reserve and major US corporations.
    Stop squeezing the natives from the Middle East and ruining the defense posts (like the former Libya) against the sub-saharan migrants; this would be the best prevention of the human misery and “liberation” of thugs, which affects Europe right now.

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    Dear Annamarie

    I have very low tolerance for Leftist theology which ramanticizes nonwhites and justifies the mass gang rape of Women of Europa and the Demographic annihilation of The Historic Native Born White American Majority Working Class.


    The Historic Native Born White America Working Class has finally begun to aske the most fundamental question:Post-1965 race immigration policy:What's in it for our People?...Very obvious answer....0. So Noam Chomsky and John Pilger should not be shocked that the Historic Native Born White American Majority is revolting against post-1965 Immigration Policy.


    So why are Native Born White Working Class Teenage Males doing Iraq-Afghanistan? Post-1965 Immigration Policy has made them economically redundant...and therefore has reduced them to canon fodder.


    John Pilger and Noam Chomsky's agitation for open borders immigration policy so an open violent act of War against against the teenage sons and daughters of The Native Born White American Working Class. They are in fact..not anti-war peacenicks.
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  28. Pilger is magnificent. He sums up 8 years of perfidies of the Obama Administration–the “fake news” journalists, the “fake Arts” Artsy types, et. al. He’s razor-sharp and comprehensive. He’s not only one of our great journalists, he is one of our great artists now–a movie producer and director. The “mass media,” including insipid TV and Hollywood, the “political correctness” and “identity politics” of our “Arts,” have defrauded the American public for decades. We need more Pilgers, Oliver Stones, Julian Assanges, Glen Greenwalds, Chelsea Mannings, Cynthia McKinneys to light the way for us! Thank you, UNZ REVIEW, for posting Pilger’s and other great work! Let’s keep spreading the word!

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  29. annamaria says:
    @Quartermaster

    In 2014, the Obama’s administration oversaw and paid for a fascist-led coup in Ukraine against the democratically-elected government, threatening Russia in the western borderland through Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, with a loss of 27 million lives.
     
    The same lie Putin has been peddling since he stole Crimea and invaded the Donbas. It is patently false and when you see this lie, you can bet the man writing it has heard the dog whistle and is obediently running to his master, tail wagging.

    Russia is a Fascist. You can criticize the government in Ukraine. Try it in Russia, if you like waking up dead, as Nemtsov, and others, have found.

    By the by, Nelson "I am Not A Terrorist" Mandela was a terrorist and was righteously jailed. The explosives he had been running killed mostly blacks. He should have been left to rot on Robbins Island. The rest in Africa were just as bad.

    Is this Anna Nemtsova profiteering on her dead dad’ fame? At the time of his death Nemtsov held a 2%-approval rate in Russia; he was financed by western NGO (wonder why) and he was despised by the general population in Russia.
    Or perhaps you are a voice from Mrs. Nuland-Kagan quarters? How about a Ukrainian journalist Buzina? http://www.ibtimes.com/who-are-oles-buzina-sergey-sukhobok-2-pro-russian-ukrainian-journalists-killed-kiev-1884863
    What about your mighty Kolomojsky, a financier of the thugs that burn ALIVE the scores of civilians in Odessa? What about your shameful Banderite parades in honor of the Nazi collaborator who got fame for organizing the massive hunts of European anti-nazi partisans? The Canadian progeny of the criminals has been exposed as the main supporters of Ukrainian neo-Nazis.
    But of course you are proud to enjoy the great fruit of Kagans’-carried liberation of Ukraine – the disappearance of corruption and such… Please enlighten the readers.

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    This quote, your statement, is comical Zionist indoctrination talking:

    " What about your shameful Banderite parades in honor of the Nazi collaborator who got fame for organizing the massive hunts of European anti-nazi partisans? The Canadian progeny of the criminals has been exposed as the main supporters of Ukrainian neo-Nazis."

    What's "shameful" about it?

    The "partisans" were communist, non-uniformed combatants / terrorists, illegal under international law; they deserved to be hunted.

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

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  30. HBM says:

    The genocidal Marxist Left refuses to accept that their vision for America– the supremely moral and inevitable disappearance of Whites and our replacement by brown saints– has been disrupted.

    Mr. Obama is unshakable in his belief in this destiny, and this was the Change that he always intended to bring to us.

    The so-called Democrats unmasked and celebrated their victory too soon. And they didn’t count on the genius of Donald Trump, who is a figure of world-historical importance.

    Turns out that dancing on the grave of White America while Whites are still a majority isn’t a winning strategy.

    The allegedly most honest post-mortems of Democrat behavior and the campaign of 2016 acknowledge that they ignored the White working class. But the truth is that they didn’t ignore them. They openly celebrated their dispossession and demise. It was this maniac attention that led to their defeat.

    Now Whites are demonized. The most naked kind of hate language against Whites clearly aspires to become mainstream public discourse.

    Whites are evil and racist and must be destroyed and Whiteness is a only a dangerous illusion.

    Jews and their alliance of brown people and shabbos goy useful fools (complicit not only in our but their own destruction) hope to dazzle us with this paradox all the way unto our erasure, at which point these same brown saints and their enablers, who have maligned everything we built and are, will claim America as having been their own all along.

    White America is undergoing an ethnic cleansing and lives under occupation in an ethno-cultural West Bank.

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  31. joe webb says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    You obviously don't know John Pilger's full range of views. John Pilger is an enthusiast for flooding Europe with young Muslim Male Gang Rapists.

    The honest leftists over at Counterpunch understand the utter moral rancidity of the inner core of the Clinton's Democratic Party. Pilger-Chomsky solution:wipe away the borders of the US. Pilger...Chomsky...Jeffrey Saint Claire...all share the number one fundamental goal of the Clinton's and Obama:The Demographic murder of The Historic Native Born White American Working Class-full speed ahead with the Democratic Party's open and deliberate policy of Genocide.

    righto. The working class, when relatively well paid, as in post-war America up until about 1973 when its share of the pie began to be nibbled away by various factors…union weakness, and the beginning of cheap foreign labor, etc., had accepted the ‘harmonious hierarchy’ social contract of Social Democracy. Ditto Europe.

    Part of this Social Democratic contract was possible because of post-war US affluence due to the fact of US productivity (no war damage compared to Europe), as well as to the oft stated argument that high wages were granted because of the possible appeal of communism, etc. I guess that makes some sense.

    So harmonious hierarchy has been a fact, and was expressed in Norman Rockwell’s Americana pictures. White working class folks have been realistic and not Revolutionary, despite endless appeals from communists, socialists, jews, and other mischief makers.

    Example: today, working class whites rally to a billionaire’s vision of good jobs and good pay. Trump is not a class struggle guy, he is a harmonious hierarchy guy, a capitalist who puts his country first, his white people first (obviously, since he cannot be so dumb as to believe his rhetoric about Transformation of the Ghetto), and colored immigrants OUT.

    Race vs. Class. Of course there is a place for class in the sense of economic welfare…decent wages. The Class Struggle of the Left, historically , has privileged, to coin a phrase, workers as more moral and decent and most importantly, more in tune with their Historic Role to Lead all workers to the Paradise of communism, socialism, what have you, and do not overlook the recent Rainbow fantasies as well.

    This has been a total failure, and will remain so, since White workers know what they are, not that smart, and no better as human beings than any other “class”…. and probably worse, given the fact that our jails contain mostly working class whites, not other classes of whites.

    And they will have none of the nonsense about racial equality. I have traveled all over the US West and talked to many, many folks. If they live anywhere near to an Indian reservation, the people they hate most are injuns. Then, the blacks, and occasionally they will mention, unprompted, jews. They also hate the mexicans…everywhere. and this is true locally for working class folks…San Mateo County south of SF , which is run by the booboisie of upper middle-class white liberals who make their money from globalism, especially Silicon Valley, valley of the capons.

    The “agency” of any particular class has been proven to be yet another leftwing or even Managerialist mirage.

    Certainly, economics and technology is very important, but it drives itself, like an Invisible Hand.

    The white folks who, like the libertarians, celebrate this stuff are oblivious of race, country, evolution, genetic similarity, as well as religion. America is very religious, of the Protestant type (and therefore in luv with the Jews), and Hard Work and more hard work and savings is part of our DNA.

    Just yesterday, I talked to my tailor guy, a Serb immigrant like 50 plus years ago. He has worked at his one-man shop for 45 years, his wife also works at a school, he bought an apartment building in Menlo Park, CA . in the 80s for about 450,000 dollars and he is now getting offers in the high 3 million dollars vicinity. He has no intention to quit working, he likes his work, and he has children to leave his money to. That is Whiteness.

    Forget Class as major or primary. It has a modest role to play.
    Blacks don’t like to work, or save, or etc. I am told by many employer types that white kids don’t want to work now. This is a disaster.

    Get rid of mexicans in the labor force, and white wages will rise, and so will productivity.
    Get rid of globalism, yes, an attack on white workers, and white workers will respond as Americans, not as “workers.’ This is obvious from the chants of white Trump supporters…USA, USA, USA… This is nationalism and white race Identity.

    Race. and economic factors fall in line within the general context of Whiteness.

    Joe Webb

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    Dear Joe

    You comments are simultaneously stupid and evil.

    Native Born White American Working Class History were violent revolts against the violence of the Greedy Cheating Oligarchs:Carniege-Fricke..Old Man Rockfeller...Ford.....land owning Oligarchs in the American West..and George Washington.

    I don't worship Oligarchs and a certain type of Hierarchy that the certain Alt Righters want to bring back.

    The Commie charge was used by Oligarchs in the late 19th century-early 20th Century to bash the brains out of the Native Born White American Working Class....and the c0mmie charge was the post-war basis of the C0ld War...Which was a direct road to the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act...which was a direct road the passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act...which was a direct road to the Congressman John Lewis and C0ngresswoman Maxine Waters threatening Conservative Christian Russia with thermonuclear annihilation in 2017.

    One of the reasons why I will eternally despise the skank Anne Coulter is because her father organized Coal C0mpany vi0lence against Coal Miners.

    F you Joe Webb...and rot in Hell Ann Coulter's late father.
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  32. bluedog says:
    @Quartermaster

    In 2014, the Obama’s administration oversaw and paid for a fascist-led coup in Ukraine against the democratically-elected government, threatening Russia in the western borderland through Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, with a loss of 27 million lives.
     
    The same lie Putin has been peddling since he stole Crimea and invaded the Donbas. It is patently false and when you see this lie, you can bet the man writing it has heard the dog whistle and is obediently running to his master, tail wagging.

    Russia is a Fascist. You can criticize the government in Ukraine. Try it in Russia, if you like waking up dead, as Nemtsov, and others, have found.

    By the by, Nelson "I am Not A Terrorist" Mandela was a terrorist and was righteously jailed. The explosives he had been running killed mostly blacks. He should have been left to rot on Robbins Island. The rest in Africa were just as bad.

    Beware the man that can’t see his own sin under his nose,Russia is no more fascist than we are if one looks to fascism, where business and government occupies the same bed,where according to us Russia spies on us while we spy on the whole world,where according to you Russia kills all who should criticize while we simply kill with our instigated color revolutions and pass it off with “fuck the EU Yats is our man”…

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    blue dog. "....fascism, where business and government occupies the same bed,..."a quarter truth at best. Business in Germany resisted Hitler and supported conservative groups all the way up to 1933. See Turner, German Big Business and the rise of HItler.

    Corporatism , always misunderstood by the left, is not the bed partners you allege. It is the idea of a unified society, all one body, the body politic,etc. From the latin of course.

    Hitler and Schacht bent Big Business to their will, similar so far with Trump.

    Joe Webb
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  33. Inertiler says:

    The biggest smoke screen of the moment is the “Trump operation”. The press, all of it, is pivotal as usual. They’ve been most convincing – one part of the press apostles claim their so-called opponents were “fooled and didn’t see Trump a comin’ ” other proponents accuse their media coworkers of “fake news, while we bring the real truthiness to you. ” They all press the fraud of electoral politics – every one of them. That’s teamwork from the ministry of information.

    Moreover, our press (all of it) only presents the nasty disinformation they deem critical for security. They serve to deliver meaningless banter approved by their moneyed backers. Look at Chris Hedges, his voice and his pen are paid for by the FIRE sector. He’ll write the word empathy until he’s an old man, but his role is to disable and his job is in defense like any other soldier.

    It’s a hidden paradigm that would make overt totalitarianism from the 20th century seem merely petty or quaint. All media is main stream media. Every blog has their former military spook, or business magnate, or warrior who suddenly becomes a “good guy” and is getting the “truth” to you. Their are customers in line who lap it up, and in turn post their thoughts and feelings for free all over the web.

    Let’s try for clarity. Trump is the greatest thing to happen to both fictional sides of our ruling class..until the next one comes along. Millions of people are rooting for the so-called teams that have been presented to them by the press. Behold, millions of people who were thrown out of their houses and jobs into desperate (by any measure) situations just to survive are cheering on the people who did it to them as they are appointed to the administrative front offices (and front has two meanings) of the US Oligarchy. Alternatively, there are millions of people who can’t see the difference between what was before and what came after – the same people are perpetually in power.

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  34. Talha says:
    @WorkingClass

    Today, false symbolism is all. “Identity” is all. In 2016, Hillary Clinton stigmatised millions of voters as “a basket of deplorables, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it”. Her abuse was handed out at an LGBT rally as part of her cynical campaign to win over minorities by abusing a white mostly working-class majority. Divide and rule, this is called; or identity politics in which race and gender conceal class, and allow the waging of class war. Trump understood this.
     
    My bold. Very few Americans whether they favor Trump or Clinton are aware that there is a class war ongoing beneath the identity hype. Hillary took identity politics to the next level with her open contempt for white working class men. Americans should meditate on the use of the word "class" in this context.

    W.C.
    Class Realist

    Hey WC,

    Awesome point! Totally agree – classic divide and conquer stuff. And as ‘utu’ stated, one of the very best by Mr. Pilger – showing again that, he might come from the Left, but he calls out the ruling elite no matter what their stripes.

    Some of the nostalgic and idealistic opinions on the ‘Great Obama’ penned recently by the political Muslim leadership was also very cringe-worthy. Come on guys, let’s grow a spine again!

    Peace.

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  35. DaveE says:

    What is it with you lefties’ obsession with group labels when looking for someone to blame?

    Al Qaeda, ISIS, the MIC, the MSM, the Goyim, the anti-Semites whatever Bogey Man you’re trying to blame this week, it’s as if you think we’re as unsophisticated as you are.

    “US” is not the problem. YOU (lefties / Bolsheviks / zionists / Chosen Ones etc. ) ARE the problem.

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  36. Art says:

    No Shelley speaks for the poor, no Blake for utopian dreams, no Byron damns the corruption of the ruling class, no Thomas Carlyle and John Ruskin reveal the moral disaster of capitalism. William Morris, Oscar Wilde, HG Wells, George Bernard Shaw have no equivalents today.

    An aside. I usually do not side with the HBD crowd – but WWI destroyed the wonderful Brit intellectual world.

    From Newton till WWI there was an unending series of unmatched genius emanating from English culture. In the last 100 years – nothing.

    WWI killed the breading stock and the culture that valued it.

    Peace — Art

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    yes but department....the breeding stock is important as you remark. However, the disaster has mostly to do with Culture, god forbid, the ideas of equality, racial and otherwise, championed by the Boas jew-school of cultural subversion and aided and abetted by HItler's failures and mistakes. Biggest failure was losing the war to the communists and fellow traveling pimping little sisters of communism...our wonderful liberals.

    WW one killed off a generation, but genetically, the breeding stock remained more or less the same, possibly with a small dent in national IQ. The question here is Culture, crazy of course, but an expression of White peace and luv altruism gone over the cliff.

    An historical analogue was ancient Greece after succumbing to peace and luv Stoicism because of the trauma of the Pelopponesian war. We are All One.


    Joe Webb

    , @annamaria
    Alan Turing
    , @Sherman
    I hate to admit it but I actually agree with you.

    You're a perfect example of the downward slide in white IQs and lack of intellectual accomplishment as a result of inbreeding.

    You've proven your own point!

    Sherm

    P.S. - How's the PORK and beans?
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  37. @Quartermaster

    In 2014, the Obama’s administration oversaw and paid for a fascist-led coup in Ukraine against the democratically-elected government, threatening Russia in the western borderland through Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, with a loss of 27 million lives.
     
    The same lie Putin has been peddling since he stole Crimea and invaded the Donbas. It is patently false and when you see this lie, you can bet the man writing it has heard the dog whistle and is obediently running to his master, tail wagging.

    Russia is a Fascist. You can criticize the government in Ukraine. Try it in Russia, if you like waking up dead, as Nemtsov, and others, have found.

    By the by, Nelson "I am Not A Terrorist" Mandela was a terrorist and was righteously jailed. The explosives he had been running killed mostly blacks. He should have been left to rot on Robbins Island. The rest in Africa were just as bad.

    ” Russia is a Facist”

    Hogwash, Russia is light years away from Facism, you really don’t know what you are blathering about, typical leftist, that you are.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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  38. joe webb says:
    @bluedog
    Beware the man that can't see his own sin under his nose,Russia is no more fascist than we are if one looks to fascism, where business and government occupies the same bed,where according to us Russia spies on us while we spy on the whole world,where according to you Russia kills all who should criticize while we simply kill with our instigated color revolutions and pass it off with "fuck the EU Yats is our man"...

    blue dog. “….fascism, where business and government occupies the same bed,…”a quarter truth at best. Business in Germany resisted Hitler and supported conservative groups all the way up to 1933. See Turner, German Big Business and the rise of HItler.

    Corporatism , always misunderstood by the left, is not the bed partners you allege. It is the idea of a unified society, all one body, the body politic,etc. From the latin of course.

    Hitler and Schacht bent Big Business to their will, similar so far with Trump.

    Joe Webb

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    Wow up until 1933 long way my friend from when HITLER REALLY TOOK POWER when Hitler met with the business leaders in Germany he did it with apprehension as to their reaction, but when he got thru speaking they ALL rose with the old Nazi salute and Heil Hitler,I don't know what books you read but try the History of the Third Reich or Hitler's War or any number of well documented books.
    Any fool who fails to understand the relationship between the American corporate sector and the government does so at his own risk ,or better yet ask all those countries who have felt the wrath of our military when they crossed the American business sector better known as corporate America...
    , @Ace
    I see the essence of fascism as being but a variant of communist totalitarianism. The difference is merely that fascism does waste time with the ownership of the means of production nonsense and its inefficiencies. If business leaders do or do not support fascist government it makes no difference. Fascists co-opt businesses, saving themselves all the headaches of running them. Fascists distort the economy just as the socialists do by directing what will be produced and, I think, what will be retained by business owners. Malinvestment of capital is thus inherent in both approaches.

    The control issue is quite clear from Mussolini's “All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.”

    Communism and fascism are light years from the right side of the spectrum which is focused on rule of law, liberty, private property, tradition, and sanctity of contract. Of course, I recognize that you did not make the fatuous argument that fascism is "right-wing."
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  39. joe webb says:
    @Art
    No Shelley speaks for the poor, no Blake for utopian dreams, no Byron damns the corruption of the ruling class, no Thomas Carlyle and John Ruskin reveal the moral disaster of capitalism. William Morris, Oscar Wilde, HG Wells, George Bernard Shaw have no equivalents today.

    An aside. I usually do not side with the HBD crowd – but WWI destroyed the wonderful Brit intellectual world.

    From Newton till WWI there was an unending series of unmatched genius emanating from English culture. In the last 100 years – nothing.

    WWI killed the breading stock and the culture that valued it.

    Peace --- Art

    yes but department….the breeding stock is important as you remark. However, the disaster has mostly to do with Culture, god forbid, the ideas of equality, racial and otherwise, championed by the Boas jew-school of cultural subversion and aided and abetted by HItler’s failures and mistakes. Biggest failure was losing the war to the communists and fellow traveling pimping little sisters of communism…our wonderful liberals.

    WW one killed off a generation, but genetically, the breeding stock remained more or less the same, possibly with a small dent in national IQ. The question here is Culture, crazy of course, but an expression of White peace and luv altruism gone over the cliff.

    An historical analogue was ancient Greece after succumbing to peace and luv Stoicism because of the trauma of the Pelopponesian war. We are All One.

    Joe Webb

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  40. Wally says: • Website
    @annamaria
    Is this Anna Nemtsova profiteering on her dead dad' fame? At the time of his death Nemtsov held a 2%-approval rate in Russia; he was financed by western NGO (wonder why) and he was despised by the general population in Russia.
    Or perhaps you are a voice from Mrs. Nuland-Kagan quarters? How about a Ukrainian journalist Buzina? http://www.ibtimes.com/who-are-oles-buzina-sergey-sukhobok-2-pro-russian-ukrainian-journalists-killed-kiev-1884863
    What about your mighty Kolomojsky, a financier of the thugs that burn ALIVE the scores of civilians in Odessa? What about your shameful Banderite parades in honor of the Nazi collaborator who got fame for organizing the massive hunts of European anti-nazi partisans? The Canadian progeny of the criminals has been exposed as the main supporters of Ukrainian neo-Nazis.
    But of course you are proud to enjoy the great fruit of Kagans'-carried liberation of Ukraine - the disappearance of corruption and such... Please enlighten the readers.

    This quote, your statement, is comical Zionist indoctrination talking:

    ” What about your shameful Banderite parades in honor of the Nazi collaborator who got fame for organizing the massive hunts of European anti-nazi partisans? The Canadian progeny of the criminals has been exposed as the main supporters of Ukrainian neo-Nazis.”

    What’s “shameful” about it?

    The “partisans” were communist, non-uniformed combatants / terrorists, illegal under international law; they deserved to be hunted.

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869?

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    The “partisans” were communist, non-uniformed combatants / terrorists, illegal under international law; they deserved to be hunted.
     
    They were defending their country.
    , @annamaria
    "The “partisans” were communist, non-uniformed combatants / terrorists, illegal under international law; they deserved to be hunted."

    How about the defense of motherland, of families, traditions, ancestral grave, the ways of life? Your statement should be music to the ears of those cold war warriors who did not show up, demonstratively, for commemoration of the Day of Victory in Russia. Interesting how Banderites converge with ziocons. The current picture of union between neonazis and banderies in Rada is a great illustration.
    In Russia, millions of human beings died during WWII as victims of Nazi invasion or as combatants of various kinds, including "non-uniformed" combatants. There were teenagers fighting along with adults. Before that, Russia used partisan formations to defend herself against the superior Napoleon army. Other countries used non-uniformed combatants to survive an onslaught of aggressors.
    "...they deserved to be hunted." Tell this to the grandchildren of those who gave their lives to defend their countries while joining the anti-fascist movement in Europe. But of course, the grandchildren of collaborators would accept your words with joy. Cheerleading for Quislings.
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  41. @annamaria
    Pilger is one of the most courageous warriors against neo-liberal bloody empire. He has proven his courage and tenacity again and again. He is the mensch.
    If Europe is flooded with refugees from Middle East, and migrants from sub-saharan Africa, this is because of the profiteering scoundrels like Cheney, Bush, and Blair (note that all three are White Christians) and their jolly ziocon retinue & masters. Give the dues to the real scum instead of attacking the messenger. In addition, what exactly the "Historic Native Born White Americans" have been doing in a company of less "historic Americans" in the countries of Middle East? - Killing and looting in the name of the Fed.Reserve and major US corporations.
    Stop squeezing the natives from the Middle East and ruining the defense posts (like the former Libya) against the sub-saharan migrants; this would be the best prevention of the human misery and "liberation" of thugs, which affects Europe right now.

    Dear Annamarie

    I have very low tolerance for Leftist theology which ramanticizes nonwhites and justifies the mass gang rape of Women of Europa and the Demographic annihilation of The Historic Native Born White American Majority Working Class.

    The Historic Native Born White America Working Class has finally begun to aske the most fundamental question:Post-1965 race immigration policy:What’s in it for our People?…Very obvious answer….0. So Noam Chomsky and John Pilger should not be shocked that the Historic Native Born White American Majority is revolting against post-1965 Immigration Policy.

    So why are Native Born White Working Class Teenage Males doing Iraq-Afghanistan? Post-1965 Immigration Policy has made them economically redundant…and therefore has reduced them to canon fodder.

    John Pilger and Noam Chomsky’s agitation for open borders immigration policy so an open violent act of War against against the teenage sons and daughters of The Native Born White American Working Class. They are in fact..not anti-war peacenicks.

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    I agree. At best, Pilger and Chomsky are as much part of a problem as part of a remedy. Assisting the NWO racket and looking good too, until one knows what to expect from them.
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  42. MMM says:

    Why doesn’t Mr. Pilger take on Washington, the Neocons/Neo-Bolsheviks & the global NWO Mafia Empire? That would support “a genuine movement of opposition” arising.

    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/the-107-year-plan-t

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  43. @joe webb
    righto. The working class, when relatively well paid, as in post-war America up until about 1973 when its share of the pie began to be nibbled away by various factors...union weakness, and the beginning of cheap foreign labor, etc., had accepted the 'harmonious hierarchy' social contract of Social Democracy. Ditto Europe.

    Part of this Social Democratic contract was possible because of post-war US affluence due to the fact of US productivity (no war damage compared to Europe), as well as to the oft stated argument that high wages were granted because of the possible appeal of communism, etc. I guess that makes some sense.

    So harmonious hierarchy has been a fact, and was expressed in Norman Rockwell's Americana pictures. White working class folks have been realistic and not Revolutionary, despite endless appeals from communists, socialists, jews, and other mischief makers.

    Example: today, working class whites rally to a billionaire's vision of good jobs and good pay. Trump is not a class struggle guy, he is a harmonious hierarchy guy, a capitalist who puts his country first, his white people first (obviously, since he cannot be so dumb as to believe his rhetoric about Transformation of the Ghetto), and colored immigrants OUT.

    Race vs. Class. Of course there is a place for class in the sense of economic welfare...decent wages. The Class Struggle of the Left, historically , has privileged, to coin a phrase, workers as more moral and decent and most importantly, more in tune with their Historic Role to Lead all workers to the Paradise of communism, socialism, what have you, and do not overlook the recent Rainbow fantasies as well.

    This has been a total failure, and will remain so, since White workers know what they are, not that smart, and no better as human beings than any other "class".... and probably worse, given the fact that our jails contain mostly working class whites, not other classes of whites.

    And they will have none of the nonsense about racial equality. I have traveled all over the US West and talked to many, many folks. If they live anywhere near to an Indian reservation, the people they hate most are injuns. Then, the blacks, and occasionally they will mention, unprompted, jews. They also hate the mexicans...everywhere. and this is true locally for working class folks...San Mateo County south of SF , which is run by the booboisie of upper middle-class white liberals who make their money from globalism, especially Silicon Valley, valley of the capons.

    The "agency" of any particular class has been proven to be yet another leftwing or even Managerialist mirage.

    Certainly, economics and technology is very important, but it drives itself, like an Invisible Hand.

    The white folks who, like the libertarians, celebrate this stuff are oblivious of race, country, evolution, genetic similarity, as well as religion. America is very religious, of the Protestant type (and therefore in luv with the Jews), and Hard Work and more hard work and savings is part of our DNA.

    Just yesterday, I talked to my tailor guy, a Serb immigrant like 50 plus years ago. He has worked at his one-man shop for 45 years, his wife also works at a school, he bought an apartment building in Menlo Park, CA . in the 80s for about 450,000 dollars and he is now getting offers in the high 3 million dollars vicinity. He has no intention to quit working, he likes his work, and he has children to leave his money to. That is Whiteness.

    Forget Class as major or primary. It has a modest role to play.
    Blacks don't like to work, or save, or etc. I am told by many employer types that white kids don't want to work now. This is a disaster.

    Get rid of mexicans in the labor force, and white wages will rise, and so will productivity.
    Get rid of globalism, yes, an attack on white workers, and white workers will respond as Americans, not as "workers.' This is obvious from the chants of white Trump supporters...USA, USA, USA... This is nationalism and white race Identity.

    Race. and economic factors fall in line within the general context of Whiteness.

    Joe Webb

    Dear Joe

    You comments are simultaneously stupid and evil.

    Native Born White American Working Class History were violent revolts against the violence of the Greedy Cheating Oligarchs:Carniege-Fricke..Old Man Rockfeller…Ford…..land owning Oligarchs in the American West..and George Washington.

    I don’t worship Oligarchs and a certain type of Hierarchy that the certain Alt Righters want to bring back.

    The Commie charge was used by Oligarchs in the late 19th century-early 20th Century to bash the brains out of the Native Born White American Working Class….and the c0mmie charge was the post-war basis of the C0ld War…Which was a direct road to the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act…which was a direct road the passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act…which was a direct road to the Congressman John Lewis and C0ngresswoman Maxine Waters threatening Conservative Christian Russia with thermonuclear annihilation in 2017.

    One of the reasons why I will eternally despise the skank Anne Coulter is because her father organized Coal C0mpany vi0lence against Coal Miners.

    F you Joe Webb…and rot in Hell Ann Coulter’s late father.

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    Agree. Nicely stated.

    As a youth, I helped deliver a truckload of supplies to striking Coal miners in Hazard KY. The miners were living in wood shacks, heating and cooking with coal stoves. We stayed with the miners, and were attacked in the local paper as being Communists.

    Some of our group were. I was too young to understand what a communist was. But my father & mother raised me right, and they allowed me to accompany the group to Hazard. I remember a miner's wife insisting that the Mine Owners were the communists (which was the worst insult they could imagine).

    God Bless! We must rescue our country.
    , @joe webb
    hoo boy there Blair boy, tantrums in spades, Besides your obvious communist totalitarianism let me point out just one logical error..."The Commie charge was used by Oligarchs in the late 19th century-early 20th Century to bash the brains out of the Native Born White American Working Class….and the c0mmie charge was the post-war basis of the C0ld War…Which was a direct road to the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act…which was a direct road the passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act. "

    The cold war had nothing to do with the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. And the communists were more evil (as you love to splutter) than we ever thought. The Verona papers, reveal that Joe McCarthy was correct about everything...commies everywhere in Washington. Read Solzhenitsyn on the Gulag and also of course on the jews in his last book....200 years together. My family was communist and I knew a lot of them, especially my mother, who seems a lot like you, alcoholic and ultimately pretty crazy.

    The 1965 immigration act also had nothing to do with cold war and everything to do with the Democratic Revolution which has been roiling the West since 1789. The immigration act was written by jews and subscribed to my liberals. Bring in the savages.

    Communism was the extreme of 1789. The roll back by Trump and conservatives, the start of the Counter Revolution, mostly white working class folks, is anti-communist, anti-left, etc. You appear to be a strange bird, maybe a crusty old communist who gets a kick out of Trump bashing the liberals, but your type is dangerous to anyone within striking distance, even your friends, since your emotions are pretty much out of control.
    Read my #1 after # 80 on the distinctions between fascism and communism. I would reject you on any political tendency just on emotional grounds. You are out of control, self-control.

    . JW....ex leftie, still on the side of workers, but with no illusions about their holiness.

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  44. annamaria says:
    @Art
    No Shelley speaks for the poor, no Blake for utopian dreams, no Byron damns the corruption of the ruling class, no Thomas Carlyle and John Ruskin reveal the moral disaster of capitalism. William Morris, Oscar Wilde, HG Wells, George Bernard Shaw have no equivalents today.

    An aside. I usually do not side with the HBD crowd – but WWI destroyed the wonderful Brit intellectual world.

    From Newton till WWI there was an unending series of unmatched genius emanating from English culture. In the last 100 years – nothing.

    WWI killed the breading stock and the culture that valued it.

    Peace --- Art

    Alan Turing

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    Hi annamaria,

    Alan Turing --- yes – thanks. His father was English, his mother a Scott - born 1912 before the war. A truly great mind.

    Peace --- Art
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  45. Miro23 says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    per this:

    "There is something both venal and profoundly stupid about famous writers as they venture outside their cosseted world and embrace an “issue”"

    For example, a famous writer for Newsweek, outside his cosseted world:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LANAXkHYAiA

    Thanks, what a laughable interview.

    Carlson calls out Eichenwald’s smears against Trump and says that he’s not a journalist, he’s an advocate. Reads his tweets smearing Trump.

    Asks for a Yes or No answer to Eichenwald’s claim that Trump was in a mental hospital in 1990.

    Eichenwald: No answer. Blah, blah, Trump smear, blah blah….

    Carlson 4x : Just answer the question, was Trump in a mental hospital in 1990 – Yes or No?

    Eichenwald 4x : No answer. Blah, blah, Trump smear, blah blah….

    Carlson : I’ll give you 30 seconds to answer the question. Was Trump in a mental hospital in 1990 – Yes or No?

    Eichenwald: No answer. Blah, blah, Trump smear, blah blah…. CIA, patriots…. CIA ???

    Carlson: “This is performance art. Your Newsweek editors need to take a closer look at you”

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    Another interesting read:
    http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/01/lavrov-slams-triple-standards-names.html "
    The cynicism of the situation is that we are being blamed by those who most actively interfered in the election campaign...” Lavrov added that, unlike Russia, a whole number of world leaders openly campaigned for Hillary Clinton. “Angela Merkel, Francois Hollande, Theresa May, and other European leaders were noted as actively doing this,” the minister continued, emphasizing that many did not hesitate to demonize the Republican candidate."
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-18/alibabaa-jack-ma-drops-redpill-us-wasted-14-trillion-wars-over-past-30-years
    "Since the Vietnam war, more than 45 years ago, the US has embarked on a neocon strategy of war in an effort to build a global empire. The result of that strategy has left American infrastructure second rate, its school system in shambles, and its healthcare system a complete and utter joke.. ... the U.S. has wasted over $14 trillion in fighting wars over the past 30 years rather than investing in infrastructure at home."
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  46. bluedog says:
    @joe webb
    blue dog. "....fascism, where business and government occupies the same bed,..."a quarter truth at best. Business in Germany resisted Hitler and supported conservative groups all the way up to 1933. See Turner, German Big Business and the rise of HItler.

    Corporatism , always misunderstood by the left, is not the bed partners you allege. It is the idea of a unified society, all one body, the body politic,etc. From the latin of course.

    Hitler and Schacht bent Big Business to their will, similar so far with Trump.

    Joe Webb

    Wow up until 1933 long way my friend from when HITLER REALLY TOOK POWER when Hitler met with the business leaders in Germany he did it with apprehension as to their reaction, but when he got thru speaking they ALL rose with the old Nazi salute and Heil Hitler,I don’t know what books you read but try the History of the Third Reich or Hitler’s War or any number of well documented books.
    Any fool who fails to understand the relationship between the American corporate sector and the government does so at his own risk ,or better yet ask all those countries who have felt the wrath of our military when they crossed the American business sector better known as corporate America…

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    ok.....my point was and is that Big Business opposed Hitler right up to the 1933 time and then folded. To say that Big Business was fascist is wrong. Big Business is opportunistic in general, and contributed nothing in the way of money to the nazi party throughout the 20s and so on.

    As for contributing after 1933, I dunno, but as you probably are aware, only a portion of civil society joined the party.. The party wanted gung-ho folks, not dilettantes.

    The knee-jerks like Blair Mountain, insist that Big Business is fascist inherently. That is ridiculous. If anything, Big Business is Liberal...globalizing, race-equality loving in order to Sell, and totally oh so Liberal, love everybody, mexers, chinese, blacks, you name it, all the damn foreigners, but not white workers of course...too feisty.

    Joe Webb
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  47. Skeptikal says:
    @Bragadocious
    I'm no Obama fan, but the Brits and the French were the real instigators of the Libya mess. If you look at the record, British newspapers were mocking Obama's "dithering" on Libya in Feb. 2011 while they had already decided Gaddafi had to go. The genocide lies came from them, just as the Brits came up with the lies about Belgian babies in 1915 and Iraqi WMDs in 2002. Lies are their #1 export.

    “If you look at the record, British newspapers were mocking Obama’s “dithering” on Libya in Feb. 2011″

    Sounds like “devil made him do it!”

    The Brits didn’t force Obama to commit the rape and destruction of libya.
    And we already know Hillary’s role.

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    Yeah "Hillary's role" .........as a British Agent!

    Bill Clinton was recruited through his Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford where he was groomed for his service to the Round Tables of the British Empire and its on going subversion campaign against
    the United States.
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  48. Skeptikal says:
    @Bragadocious
    I'm no Obama fan, but the Brits and the French were the real instigators of the Libya mess. If you look at the record, British newspapers were mocking Obama's "dithering" on Libya in Feb. 2011 while they had already decided Gaddafi had to go. The genocide lies came from them, just as the Brits came up with the lies about Belgian babies in 1915 and Iraqi WMDs in 2002. Lies are their #1 export.

    “If you look at the record, British newspapers were mocking Obama’s “dithering” on Libya in Feb. 2011″

    Sounds like “devil made him do it!”

    The Brits didn’t force Obama to commit the rape and destruction of libya.
    And we already know Hillary’s role.

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  49. Sherman says:
    @Art
    No Shelley speaks for the poor, no Blake for utopian dreams, no Byron damns the corruption of the ruling class, no Thomas Carlyle and John Ruskin reveal the moral disaster of capitalism. William Morris, Oscar Wilde, HG Wells, George Bernard Shaw have no equivalents today.

    An aside. I usually do not side with the HBD crowd – but WWI destroyed the wonderful Brit intellectual world.

    From Newton till WWI there was an unending series of unmatched genius emanating from English culture. In the last 100 years – nothing.

    WWI killed the breading stock and the culture that valued it.

    Peace --- Art

    I hate to admit it but I actually agree with you.

    You’re a perfect example of the downward slide in white IQs and lack of intellectual accomplishment as a result of inbreeding.

    You’ve proven your own point!

    Sherm

    P.S. – How’s the PORK and beans?

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    Hi Sherm,

    You must be truly proud of the Jew Rothschild's fine work in fostering WWI.

    Do you wet your trousers when you think of all that Gentile blood?

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. Moshi inquired as to if you were improving – sadly I had to say “don’t ask.”

    p.s. But he and I still have hope for you.

    p.s. If you could only grasp how inferior Judaism is to Christianity.

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  50. Skeptikal says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    per this:

    "There is something both venal and profoundly stupid about famous writers as they venture outside their cosseted world and embrace an “issue”"

    For example, a famous writer for Newsweek, outside his cosseted world:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LANAXkHYAiA

    Wow!
    Unbelievable!
    This guy Kurt is obviously used to browbeating his own interviewees and has no idea how little sense he is making.
    Can you imagine being married to this guy?
    Or even related to him?
    I am speechless.
    Tucker did the only possible thing: Humor Kurt along and not lose his temper at the nutcase Kurt. How can this man be working for Newsweek?

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  51. Skeptikal says:
    @joe webb
    just discovered Tucker Carlson. He's great...funny and when I see his little frown marks appear at the top of his nose between the eyebrows, i start laughing.

    Maybe it will be Tucker who blows the whistle on race equality...He has a kind of baby faced innocent look and might bring it off.

    Joe Webb

    Just discovered Tucker Carlson?
    Under what rock have you been hiding???
    I don’t even have a TV and I know who Tucker Carlson is.

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    He was CNN's original token conservative fraud. Cute bow tie, he's got fans (apparently) who love it when he one ups the other token frauds. Geraldo and Jerry Springer weren't the first, but the target demographic to titillate idiots was for a more sophisticated audience back then. Things are only getting worse over time.
    , @joe webb
    skep....I don't watch boob tube and just got on for the election. As for the rock, you betray yourself as limited in making a coherent argument, and a troll to boot, In person, you would never say that to my face and Viking 200 solid pounds of fitness. JW
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  52. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    Pilger reveals his own indoctrination with this loopy nonsense:

    "Like the fascism of the 1930s, big lies are delivered with the precision of a metronome: thanks to an omnipresent media whose description now fits that of the Nuremberg prosecutor: “Before each major aggression, with some few exceptions based on expediency, they initiated a press campaign calculated to weaken their victims and to prepare the German people psychologically … In the propaganda system … it was the daily press and the radio that were the most important weapons."

    Prepare for what, the fraudulent '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers'?

    Pilger is using a classic example of garbage in, garbage out. He accepts impossible propaganda as fact and proceeds from that point.

    It's time to grow up.

    The facts about Nuremberg:

    Recall that at Nuremberg is was stated that 'the court was not bound by technical rules of evidence.' Ahem.

    The official use of torture in extracting "confessions" from Germans has been confirmed repeatedly.

    - All but two of the Germans [on trial at Nuremberg], in the 139 cases that we investigated, had their testicles kicked in beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators:" 23.1.49, The Sunday Pictorial (quoted in For Those Who Cannot Speak (ref. 27), p.21.The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months..The investigators would put a black hood over the accused's head, punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses. American judge, van Roden

    - Judge van Roden's allegation of torture to gain "confessions" is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    " The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history."
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    - All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was Standard Operating Procedure with American investigators.
    by Judge E. L. van Roden, "American Atrocities in Germany", The Progressive. February 1949, p. 21f.

    - Judge van Roden's allegation of torture to gain "confessions" is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred.
    - Congressional Record, appendix. v. 95,sec.12, 3/10/49

    - "The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to [Bernard] Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: 'Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.'"(12)
    12.R. Butler, Legions of Death, Hamlyn, (London, 1983), p.237

    - The admission of Bernard Clarke was corroborated by Mr. Ken Jones in 'The Wrexham Leader', October 17, 1986.
    Mr. Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid in Schleswig-Holstein.
    "They brought him to us when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activites during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks," recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Hoess in his cell to help break him down for interrogation."
    "We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to help break down his resistance," said Mr. Jones.
    and:
    - "The London Cage was used partly as a torture centre, inside which large numbers of German officers and soldiers were subjected to systematic ill-treatment. In total 3,573 men passed through the Cage, and more than 1,000 were persuaded to give statements about war crimes. The brutality did not end with the war, moreover: a number of German civilians joined the servicemen who were interrogated there up to 1948.
    As the work of the Cage was wound down, the interrogation of prisoners was switched to a number of internment camps in Germany. And there is evidence that the treatment meted out in these places was, if anything, far worse. While many of the papers relating to these interrogation centres remain sealed at the Foreign Office, it is clear that one camp in the British zone became particularly notorious. At least two German prisoners starved to death there, according to a court of inquiry, while others were shot for minor offences.

    - There was no legal precedent for this, one official noted, besides which "any court of inquiry into these allegations would be futile".

    - In one complaint lodged at the National Archives, a 27-year-old German journalist being held at this camp said he had spent two years as a prisoner of the Gestapo. And not once, he said, did they treat him as badly as the British.
     
    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Your van Roden quote is spurious, particularly the reference to Nuremberg. He wasn’t at Nuremberg. He was involved in a military tribunal trying the men responsible for Malmedy.

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  53. MMM says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Dear Annamarie

    I have very low tolerance for Leftist theology which ramanticizes nonwhites and justifies the mass gang rape of Women of Europa and the Demographic annihilation of The Historic Native Born White American Majority Working Class.


    The Historic Native Born White America Working Class has finally begun to aske the most fundamental question:Post-1965 race immigration policy:What's in it for our People?...Very obvious answer....0. So Noam Chomsky and John Pilger should not be shocked that the Historic Native Born White American Majority is revolting against post-1965 Immigration Policy.


    So why are Native Born White Working Class Teenage Males doing Iraq-Afghanistan? Post-1965 Immigration Policy has made them economically redundant...and therefore has reduced them to canon fodder.


    John Pilger and Noam Chomsky's agitation for open borders immigration policy so an open violent act of War against against the teenage sons and daughters of The Native Born White American Working Class. They are in fact..not anti-war peacenicks.

    I agree. At best, Pilger and Chomsky are as much part of a problem as part of a remedy. Assisting the NWO racket and looking good too, until one knows what to expect from them.

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    Post-1965 Immigration Policy has made thousands of Native Born White Teenage Males econ0mically redundant. The Military Recruiters prey upon these kids. This gets to core of the great evil of Noam Chomsky and John Pilger. This is a very big issue in my family at the moment.


    If the 1965 Immigration Reform Act had not been passed and if Asian Legal Immigrants had been shut down to 0...Working Class Native Born White American Teenage Males would be developed for careers in science,engineering, and computer programming...instead of being served up as canon fodder for Greater Israel.


    The high skilled high paying jobs were already here in the US....these jobs were given to Asian Legal Immigrants and there US born Asian geneline...Trump apparently is ok with continuing with this policy. And this is really the fundamental issue threat face The Historic Native Born White American Working Class:The Asian Fifth C0loumn...
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  54. Leibniz says:
    @Skeptikal
    "If you look at the record, British newspapers were mocking Obama’s “dithering” on Libya in Feb. 2011"

    Sounds like "devil made him do it!"

    The Brits didn't force Obama to commit the rape and destruction of libya.
    And we already know Hillary's role.

    Yeah “Hillary’s role” ………as a British Agent!

    Bill Clinton was recruited through his Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford where he was groomed for his service to the Round Tables of the British Empire and its on going subversion campaign against
    the United States.

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  55. Ace says:
    @Agent76
    A very good article today Mr.PILGER.

    Nov 7, 2016 If You Vote You Can't Compain - Larken Rose on The Corbett Report

    Your vote is statistically meaningless and will not sway the (s)election. Your vote is strategically meaningless and decides nothing about the future of the country. Your vote is useless, as the (s)election is rigged anyway. But as Larken Rose reminds us, what really matters is that voting is immoral, legitimizing a system of authoritarian control and empowering the oligarchs who created the system and control its results.

    https://youtu.be/hdKmkg6GVDU

    You’re so right. The votes of millions of citizens were wasted in the last election. Nothing changed. Same old same old.

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  56. Durruti says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Dear Joe

    You comments are simultaneously stupid and evil.

    Native Born White American Working Class History were violent revolts against the violence of the Greedy Cheating Oligarchs:Carniege-Fricke..Old Man Rockfeller...Ford.....land owning Oligarchs in the American West..and George Washington.

    I don't worship Oligarchs and a certain type of Hierarchy that the certain Alt Righters want to bring back.

    The Commie charge was used by Oligarchs in the late 19th century-early 20th Century to bash the brains out of the Native Born White American Working Class....and the c0mmie charge was the post-war basis of the C0ld War...Which was a direct road to the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act...which was a direct road the passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act...which was a direct road to the Congressman John Lewis and C0ngresswoman Maxine Waters threatening Conservative Christian Russia with thermonuclear annihilation in 2017.

    One of the reasons why I will eternally despise the skank Anne Coulter is because her father organized Coal C0mpany vi0lence against Coal Miners.

    F you Joe Webb...and rot in Hell Ann Coulter's late father.

    Agree. Nicely stated.

    As a youth, I helped deliver a truckload of supplies to striking Coal miners in Hazard KY. The miners were living in wood shacks, heating and cooking with coal stoves. We stayed with the miners, and were attacked in the local paper as being Communists.

    Some of our group were. I was too young to understand what a communist was. But my father & mother raised me right, and they allowed me to accompany the group to Hazard. I remember a miner’s wife insisting that the Mine Owners were the communists (which was the worst insult they could imagine).

    God Bless! We must rescue our country.

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  57. Junior says:

    Neo-Liberal-Identity-Politicing Obama’s legacy is riots in Furguson, Baltimore, Milwaukee, and Charlotte.

    “I haven’t seen the Democrats this mad since we freed the slaves!”
    “I haven’t seen the Democrats this angry since we gave women the vote!”

    - Rob Schneider

    LMAO! Bravo, Mr. Schneider! Bravo!

    http://www.youngcons.com/rob-schneider-with-legendary-tweet-i-havent-seen-the-democrats-this-mad-since-we-freed-the-slaves/

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  58. @Skeptikal
    Just discovered Tucker Carlson?
    Under what rock have you been hiding???
    I don't even have a TV and I know who Tucker Carlson is.

    He was CNN’s original token conservative fraud. Cute bow tie, he’s got fans (apparently) who love it when he one ups the other token frauds. Geraldo and Jerry Springer weren’t the first, but the target demographic to titillate idiots was for a more sophisticated audience back then. Things are only getting worse over time.

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  59. Ace says:
    @joe webb
    blue dog. "....fascism, where business and government occupies the same bed,..."a quarter truth at best. Business in Germany resisted Hitler and supported conservative groups all the way up to 1933. See Turner, German Big Business and the rise of HItler.

    Corporatism , always misunderstood by the left, is not the bed partners you allege. It is the idea of a unified society, all one body, the body politic,etc. From the latin of course.

    Hitler and Schacht bent Big Business to their will, similar so far with Trump.

    Joe Webb

    I see the essence of fascism as being but a variant of communist totalitarianism. The difference is merely that fascism does waste time with the ownership of the means of production nonsense and its inefficiencies. If business leaders do or do not support fascist government it makes no difference. Fascists co-opt businesses, saving themselves all the headaches of running them. Fascists distort the economy just as the socialists do by directing what will be produced and, I think, what will be retained by business owners. Malinvestment of capital is thus inherent in both approaches.

    The control issue is quite clear from Mussolini’s “All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.”

    Communism and fascism are light years from the right side of the spectrum which is focused on rule of law, liberty, private property, tradition, and sanctity of contract. Of course, I recognize that you did not make the fatuous argument that fascism is “right-wing.”

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    disagree. Fascism, generically, in nationalist and communism is internationalist.

    Fascism is racialist usually, and communism is anti-racist.

    Fascism is corporatist in the latin sense of the word, and inclusive of all classes of people.

    Communism has genocided The Ruling Class, etc. Think Pol Pot with his problem with folks who wear glasses.

    The hysteria of the Blair mountain guy is part and parcel of the psychology of class haters. Kill them all, the God of History will absolve me...Fidel.

    Blair mountain guy is a pure commie and Hater.

    What else, communism is a Futurist ideology lacking any link to historical and biological (evolutionary) truths. Fascism is rooted in the Past...Blood and Soil, country, etc.

    Fascism is democratic in principle, if not in the practice. Communism was elitist...the Leninist Vanguard Party...modeled of course, partly, on Jewish notions of Chosen People.

    Fascism is without abstruse abstractions lacking any link to general biological and social reality.
    Communisms are pure dreams ...like New Age peace/luv screwballs.

    Fascisms are militarist with regard to protection of the Homeland. Communisms are militarist with regard to wiping out reactionaries and conquering the world.

    In that sense Fascisms are Limited while communisms are without Limits...the genuine article of Totalitarian.

    Joe Webb
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  60. @MMM
    I agree. At best, Pilger and Chomsky are as much part of a problem as part of a remedy. Assisting the NWO racket and looking good too, until one knows what to expect from them.

    Post-1965 Immigration Policy has made thousands of Native Born White Teenage Males econ0mically redundant. The Military Recruiters prey upon these kids. This gets to core of the great evil of Noam Chomsky and John Pilger. This is a very big issue in my family at the moment.

    If the 1965 Immigration Reform Act had not been passed and if Asian Legal Immigrants had been shut down to 0…Working Class Native Born White American Teenage Males would be developed for careers in science,engineering, and computer programming…instead of being served up as canon fodder for Greater Israel.

    The high skilled high paying jobs were already here in the US….these jobs were given to Asian Legal Immigrants and there US born Asian geneline…Trump apparently is ok with continuing with this policy. And this is really the fundamental issue threat face The Historic Native Born White American Working Class:The Asian Fifth C0loumn…

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    Too much emphasis on science, engineering and computers. You could have been an electrician, plumber, carpenter, mason, or a baker. After your apprenticeship - with some frugality and pluck- you could form YOUR OWN corporation, instead of being just another whiny, indebted, brainwashed college faggot.
    , @KenH

    Trump apparently is ok with continuing with this policy.
     
    There are no signs that mass third world immigration will drastically decrease or finally end under a Trump presidency since he worships those immigrants that come "leeeegally". At one time early in his campaign he allegedly even voiced support for granting automatic citizenship to foreign students who earn a college degree at a U.S. university in certain fields of study, but has since come to his senses.

    1.2 million annual immigrants, about 85% of whom are third world, family reunification and 100K refugees annually, most of whom are stone age people or adhere to barbaric, primitive religions, will finally kill the white man off unless we start pushing hard for etho-states over the carcass of multiracial America.

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  61. Art says:
    @annamaria
    Alan Turing

    Hi annamaria,

    Alan Turing — yes – thanks. His father was English, his mother a Scott – born 1912 before the war. A truly great mind.

    Peace — Art

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  62. Art says:
    @Sherman
    I hate to admit it but I actually agree with you.

    You're a perfect example of the downward slide in white IQs and lack of intellectual accomplishment as a result of inbreeding.

    You've proven your own point!

    Sherm

    P.S. - How's the PORK and beans?

    Hi Sherm,

    You must be truly proud of the Jew Rothschild’s fine work in fostering WWI.

    Do you wet your trousers when you think of all that Gentile blood?

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Moshi inquired as to if you were improving – sadly I had to say “don’t ask.”

    p.s. But he and I still have hope for you.

    p.s. If you could only grasp how inferior Judaism is to Christianity.

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  63. Bill says:
    @Quartermaster

    In 2014, the Obama’s administration oversaw and paid for a fascist-led coup in Ukraine against the democratically-elected government, threatening Russia in the western borderland through Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, with a loss of 27 million lives.
     
    The same lie Putin has been peddling since he stole Crimea and invaded the Donbas. It is patently false and when you see this lie, you can bet the man writing it has heard the dog whistle and is obediently running to his master, tail wagging.

    Russia is a Fascist. You can criticize the government in Ukraine. Try it in Russia, if you like waking up dead, as Nemtsov, and others, have found.

    By the by, Nelson "I am Not A Terrorist" Mandela was a terrorist and was righteously jailed. The explosives he had been running killed mostly blacks. He should have been left to rot on Robbins Island. The rest in Africa were just as bad.

    For pity’s sake, the Maidan thugs didn’t even try to hide the fact that they are Nazis. They’re proud of it.

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  64. annamaria says:
    @Miro23
    Thanks, what a laughable interview.

    Carlson calls out Eichenwald's smears against Trump and says that he's not a journalist, he's an advocate. Reads his tweets smearing Trump.

    Asks for a Yes or No answer to Eichenwald's claim that Trump was in a mental hospital in 1990.

    Eichenwald: No answer. Blah, blah, Trump smear, blah blah....

    Carlson 4x : Just answer the question, was Trump in a mental hospital in 1990 - Yes or No?

    Eichenwald 4x : No answer. Blah, blah, Trump smear, blah blah....

    Carlson : I'll give you 30 seconds to answer the question. Was Trump in a mental hospital in 1990 - Yes or No?

    Eichenwald: No answer. Blah, blah, Trump smear, blah blah.... CIA, patriots.... CIA ???

    Carlson: "This is performance art. Your Newsweek editors need to take a closer look at you"

    Another interesting read:
    http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/01/lavrov-slams-triple-standards-names.html
    The cynicism of the situation is that we are being blamed by those who most actively interfered in the election campaign…” Lavrov added that, unlike Russia, a whole number of world leaders openly campaigned for Hillary Clinton. “Angela Merkel, Francois Hollande, Theresa May, and other European leaders were noted as actively doing this,” the minister continued, emphasizing that many did not hesitate to demonize the Republican candidate.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-18/alibabaa-jack-ma-drops-redpill-us-wasted-14-trillion-wars-over-past-30-years

    “Since the Vietnam war, more than 45 years ago, the US has embarked on a neocon strategy of war in an effort to build a global empire. The result of that strategy has left American infrastructure second rate, its school system in shambles, and its healthcare system a complete and utter joke.. … the U.S. has wasted over $14 trillion in fighting wars over the past 30 years rather than investing in infrastructure at home.”

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  65. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    https://theintercept.com/2017/01/16/jeremy-corbyn-accused-of-being-russian-collaborator-for-questioning-nato-troop-build-up-on-border/

    ‘Russian’ is now codeword for anyone who resists Anglo-Zionist-Globo-Order.

    So, even though it is the Anglo-Zionist-Globo-Order(or AZGO) that is the aggressive and expansive power in the world, we are led to believe that Russia is the aggressor for resisting this ‘inevitable’ End of History force.

    So, if political results or voices in the US and EU call for an end of hostilities toward Russia and a peaceful multi-polar world, they are labeled as ‘Russian’ by the Jewish-controlled media and Jewish-bought whore-politicians.

    ‘Russian’ is becoming synonymous with ‘nationalism over globalism’.

    In contrast, ‘American’ has become synonymous with ‘globalism over nationalism’.

    What is the ‘Russian’ way? It means each nation should guard its own sovereignty, political independence, sense of history, and sense of identity/culture.

    What is the ‘American’ way? It means all nations must obey the US, imitate the US, follow the US, and see the ‘American’ way as the only correct one.

    No wonder Duterte is leaning to Russia. America offers more money and aid, but its message is ‘be our whore’ whereas Russia says ‘be yourself and remain politically independent’.

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  66. KenH says:

    It’s nice to see a leftist like Pilger skewer Obama and members of his own secular leftist religion for what they’ve done to this nation (and the white working class) instead of rationalizing Hussein Obama actions like most writers on the left have done these past eight years. But nowhere did I see any criticism of white race replacement via mass third world immigration and the brief critiques seem to be limited to the economic impact on the white working class and not the long term demographic impact.

    The one thing the left fails miserably at is defending the interests of the founding white racial stock, so they shouldn’t be surprised why race oriented right wing groups are growing often at the expense of traditional conservatism.

    William Robinson and other leftists see fascism and fascists everywhere but on the left side of the political spectrum. They can decry Trump’s “fascism” (presumably for desiring to enforce immigration law) but it was darling of the left Hussein Obama who did more than anyone to disregard the separation of powers and to centralize power in the executive branch. Obama took it upon himself to ignore laws that displeased him, enact laws he wanted but Congress would not give him, and to interpret laws (judicial branch) in such a way that would advance his radical agenda.

    Yet, by left wing logic Obama still isn’t a fascist, but Trump is and he hasn’t even assumed office.

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  67. @War for Blair Mountain
    Post-1965 Immigration Policy has made thousands of Native Born White Teenage Males econ0mically redundant. The Military Recruiters prey upon these kids. This gets to core of the great evil of Noam Chomsky and John Pilger. This is a very big issue in my family at the moment.


    If the 1965 Immigration Reform Act had not been passed and if Asian Legal Immigrants had been shut down to 0...Working Class Native Born White American Teenage Males would be developed for careers in science,engineering, and computer programming...instead of being served up as canon fodder for Greater Israel.


    The high skilled high paying jobs were already here in the US....these jobs were given to Asian Legal Immigrants and there US born Asian geneline...Trump apparently is ok with continuing with this policy. And this is really the fundamental issue threat face The Historic Native Born White American Working Class:The Asian Fifth C0loumn...

    Too much emphasis on science, engineering and computers. You could have been an electrician, plumber, carpenter, mason, or a baker. After your apprenticeship – with some frugality and pluck- you could form YOUR OWN corporation, instead of being just another whiny, indebted, brainwashed college faggot.

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    Yes..there is a whole range of skilled blue collar jobs. However, for science,engineering, and medicine...university is the only way. Native Born White American Youth should have been mentored-developed for these careers instead of the youth of China and India.
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  68. @Kyle a
    Better edit this one. Obama let the tranny go. So what if he was mistreated in the joint. Happens to all sorts of weak fellas in the pokey. Even if he wasn't an "it" he would have had a hell of a time.

    “So what?” Because rape and beatings aren’t part of Manning’s sentence.

    And by the way, don’t be confident that YOU would fare well in prison, either, no matter how tall, muscular, or tough you are. If you’re white, you will be drastically, drastically outnumbered and targeted in almost any federal or state prison in the country.

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    Hey RC,

    Because rape and beatings aren’t part of Manning’s sentence.
     
    Exactly! I don't get why people think it is cute to support this kind of thing - what if their son or brother runs foul of the law because he gets into drugs or something stupid. Do they want that to happen to him because, well, he's a weak druggie biscuit anyway.

    Peace.
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  69. A few years ago, Terry Eagleton, then professor of English literature at Manchester University, reckoned that “for the first time in two centuries, there is no eminent British poet, playwright or novelist prepared to question the foundations of the western way of life”.

    Try Paul Kingsnorth: http://paulkingsnorth.net/ He writes influential environmental essays that deeply question the foundations of the western way of life. His astounding novel “The Wake” won prizes and its sequel was recently published. I discovered Kingsnorth yesterday because he was quoted by Rod Dreher at the American Conservative magazine. I don’t know or endorse everything Kingsnorth says. He may not qualify as “eminent” yet, but he’s well on his way.

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  70. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    This quote, your statement, is comical Zionist indoctrination talking:

    " What about your shameful Banderite parades in honor of the Nazi collaborator who got fame for organizing the massive hunts of European anti-nazi partisans? The Canadian progeny of the criminals has been exposed as the main supporters of Ukrainian neo-Nazis."

    What's "shameful" about it?

    The "partisans" were communist, non-uniformed combatants / terrorists, illegal under international law; they deserved to be hunted.

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    The “partisans” were communist, non-uniformed combatants / terrorists, illegal under international law; they deserved to be hunted.

    They were defending their country.

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    "They were defending their country." - Yes, but the law was on the side of Germans. The presence and action of partisans justified German retributions against the local population. You legally could take civilian hostages and execute them. Many German high ranking officers of Wehrmacht were never prosecuted after the for for these sort of actions (e.g. Kurt Waldheim) because at that time they were not illegal.
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  71. Talha says:
    @RadicalCenter
    "So what?" Because rape and beatings aren't part of Manning's sentence.

    And by the way, don't be confident that YOU would fare well in prison, either, no matter how tall, muscular, or tough you are. If you're white, you will be drastically, drastically outnumbered and targeted in almost any federal or state prison in the country.

    Hey RC,

    Because rape and beatings aren’t part of Manning’s sentence.

    Exactly! I don’t get why people think it is cute to support this kind of thing – what if their son or brother runs foul of the law because he gets into drugs or something stupid. Do they want that to happen to him because, well, he’s a weak druggie biscuit anyway.

    Peace.

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  72. Stogumber says:

    Pilger is of course right about the present. Identity politics leads disgruntled white workers to embrace their whiteness.

    And he draws an unusual historical parallel. Did indeed Weimar disgruntled workers and peasants embrace their German-ness because the elites invested in identity conflicts? To be sure, left-liberal German media had then (as always) a certain undercurrent of Germanophobia, but how far reached it and how far was it perceived by the readers? Stands to scrutiny.

    But Pilger is obviously wrong about the Writer’s congress of 1935. This was not a time of self-criticism – not a time when noble writers exposed and corrected their left/liberal errors from yesterday. It was a time when they energetically proclaimed that they had been, were and would always be justly orientated, when they resolutely and dishonestly ignored all their differences and insecurities of yesterday to promote the “popular front” policy from Communists to bourgeois and when they pleaded for military strength.

    And that’s how victories are won. Pilger’s plea for honesty, self-criticism and peace is completely out of time and will only make him more isolated under his lefty companions.

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  73. @Stonehands
    Too much emphasis on science, engineering and computers. You could have been an electrician, plumber, carpenter, mason, or a baker. After your apprenticeship - with some frugality and pluck- you could form YOUR OWN corporation, instead of being just another whiny, indebted, brainwashed college faggot.

    Yes..there is a whole range of skilled blue collar jobs. However, for science,engineering, and medicine…university is the only way. Native Born White American Youth should have been mentored-developed for these careers instead of the youth of China and India.

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    And Native Born White American Teenagers are competiting with the youth of Asia for the blue collar skilled jobs that you mention. The Chinese, Koreans, and Hindus would never tolerate their youth having to c0mpete for these kinds of jobs in China...India...Korea. In fact, if it ever happened, there would be violence in these nations.


    Technol0gical powerhouses can never put too much emphasis on science and technology. Science and technology are the engine of economic growth. Try being a technological-scientific powerhouse without MIT, NASA, and the Bureau of Technology and Standards.
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  74. @War for Blair Mountain
    Yes..there is a whole range of skilled blue collar jobs. However, for science,engineering, and medicine...university is the only way. Native Born White American Youth should have been mentored-developed for these careers instead of the youth of China and India.

    And Native Born White American Teenagers are competiting with the youth of Asia for the blue collar skilled jobs that you mention. The Chinese, Koreans, and Hindus would never tolerate their youth having to c0mpete for these kinds of jobs in China…India…Korea. In fact, if it ever happened, there would be violence in these nations.

    Technol0gical powerhouses can never put too much emphasis on science and technology. Science and technology are the engine of economic growth. Try being a technological-scientific powerhouse without MIT, NASA, and the Bureau of Technology and Standards.

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  75. KenH says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Post-1965 Immigration Policy has made thousands of Native Born White Teenage Males econ0mically redundant. The Military Recruiters prey upon these kids. This gets to core of the great evil of Noam Chomsky and John Pilger. This is a very big issue in my family at the moment.


    If the 1965 Immigration Reform Act had not been passed and if Asian Legal Immigrants had been shut down to 0...Working Class Native Born White American Teenage Males would be developed for careers in science,engineering, and computer programming...instead of being served up as canon fodder for Greater Israel.


    The high skilled high paying jobs were already here in the US....these jobs were given to Asian Legal Immigrants and there US born Asian geneline...Trump apparently is ok with continuing with this policy. And this is really the fundamental issue threat face The Historic Native Born White American Working Class:The Asian Fifth C0loumn...

    Trump apparently is ok with continuing with this policy.

    There are no signs that mass third world immigration will drastically decrease or finally end under a Trump presidency since he worships those immigrants that come “leeeegally”. At one time early in his campaign he allegedly even voiced support for granting automatic citizenship to foreign students who earn a college degree at a U.S. university in certain fields of study, but has since come to his senses.

    1.2 million annual immigrants, about 85% of whom are third world, family reunification and 100K refugees annually, most of whom are stone age people or adhere to barbaric, primitive religions, will finally kill the white man off unless we start pushing hard for etho-states over the carcass of multiracial America.

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    KenH

    I drove all the way from Sag Harbor...picked up family and friends...to attend the Trump Rally at Gruman Corp-Northrop. Not too far from where POTUS Trump had his mass MAGA!!! Rally, there is a small plaque that says on it that Gruman Corp built the LEM used in the 1969 Moon Landing.

    Trump had his mass Gruman Corp Rally in the old LEM building..where Native Born White American Males designed and built the LEM...

    Two Alpha Native Born White American Males descended from the LEM onto the Moon...in 1969.

    America 1969=90 percent White Folks!!!


    Gruman Corp 1969=100 percent White Males...




    NASA 1969=100 percent White Males...



    Area surrounding Gruman Corp in 2017=Annexed by India...Punjabi Region now surrounds Gruman Corp...



    MAGA!!!!...which Trump shouted throughout his mass rally at Gruman Corp Rally means only one thing:90 percent Native Born White America....anything else is a lie...


    The Chinese "Americans"....The Hindu "Americans"....and the Korean "Americans"...will be voting on Nov 8 2016 to make sure that Gene Cernan is the last White Male to ever walk on the Moon ever again.
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  76. annamaria says:
    @Wally
    This quote, your statement, is comical Zionist indoctrination talking:

    " What about your shameful Banderite parades in honor of the Nazi collaborator who got fame for organizing the massive hunts of European anti-nazi partisans? The Canadian progeny of the criminals has been exposed as the main supporters of Ukrainian neo-Nazis."

    What's "shameful" about it?

    The "partisans" were communist, non-uniformed combatants / terrorists, illegal under international law; they deserved to be hunted.

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    “The “partisans” were communist, non-uniformed combatants / terrorists, illegal under international law; they deserved to be hunted.”

    How about the defense of motherland, of families, traditions, ancestral grave, the ways of life? Your statement should be music to the ears of those cold war warriors who did not show up, demonstratively, for commemoration of the Day of Victory in Russia. Interesting how Banderites converge with ziocons. The current picture of union between neonazis and banderies in Rada is a great illustration.
    In Russia, millions of human beings died during WWII as victims of Nazi invasion or as combatants of various kinds, including “non-uniformed” combatants. There were teenagers fighting along with adults. Before that, Russia used partisan formations to defend herself against the superior Napoleon army. Other countries used non-uniformed combatants to survive an onslaught of aggressors.
    “…they deserved to be hunted.” Tell this to the grandchildren of those who gave their lives to defend their countries while joining the anti-fascist movement in Europe. But of course, the grandchildren of collaborators would accept your words with joy. Cheerleading for Quislings.

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    Surely thou jest...

    "...How about the defense of motherland, of families, traditions, ancestral grave, the ways of life? ..."

    All this under the yoke of the godless communists???

    Considering that the communist administration of the Soviet Union thought that Soviet prisoners of war were traitors, answer this question: Of the Soviet soldiers killed during the war, how many ware killed by communist rear-guard troops who were ordered to fire on their own soldiers if these were to retreat or surrender?

    How many Soviet citizens were murdered by communists that donned German uniforms, in order to keep them in a state of terror and thusly controllable?

    How many Soviet citizens froze and/or starved to death because of the communist "scorched earth" policies?

    Why did the Soviet Union amass millions of its soldiers and armaments in offensive positions on their western front ie. vulnerable to a pre-emptive surprise attack?

    A book entitled Icebreaker throws some light on this issue. HdC
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  77. @KenH

    Trump apparently is ok with continuing with this policy.
     
    There are no signs that mass third world immigration will drastically decrease or finally end under a Trump presidency since he worships those immigrants that come "leeeegally". At one time early in his campaign he allegedly even voiced support for granting automatic citizenship to foreign students who earn a college degree at a U.S. university in certain fields of study, but has since come to his senses.

    1.2 million annual immigrants, about 85% of whom are third world, family reunification and 100K refugees annually, most of whom are stone age people or adhere to barbaric, primitive religions, will finally kill the white man off unless we start pushing hard for etho-states over the carcass of multiracial America.

    KenH

    I drove all the way from Sag Harbor…picked up family and friends…to attend the Trump Rally at Gruman Corp-Northrop. Not too far from where POTUS Trump had his mass MAGA!!! Rally, there is a small plaque that says on it that Gruman Corp built the LEM used in the 1969 Moon Landing.

    Trump had his mass Gruman Corp Rally in the old LEM building..where Native Born White American Males designed and built the LEM…

    Two Alpha Native Born White American Males descended from the LEM onto the Moon…in 1969.

    America 1969=90 percent White Folks!!!

    Gruman Corp 1969=100 percent White Males…

    NASA 1969=100 percent White Males…

    Area surrounding Gruman Corp in 2017=Annexed by India…Punjabi Region now surrounds Gruman Corp…

    MAGA!!!!…which Trump shouted throughout his mass rally at Gruman Corp Rally means only one thing:90 percent Native Born White America….anything else is a lie…

    The Chinese “Americans”….The Hindu “Americans”….and the Korean “Americans”…will be voting on Nov 8 2016 to make sure that Gene Cernan is the last White Male to ever walk on the Moon ever again.

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  78. HdC says:
    @annamaria
    "The “partisans” were communist, non-uniformed combatants / terrorists, illegal under international law; they deserved to be hunted."

    How about the defense of motherland, of families, traditions, ancestral grave, the ways of life? Your statement should be music to the ears of those cold war warriors who did not show up, demonstratively, for commemoration of the Day of Victory in Russia. Interesting how Banderites converge with ziocons. The current picture of union between neonazis and banderies in Rada is a great illustration.
    In Russia, millions of human beings died during WWII as victims of Nazi invasion or as combatants of various kinds, including "non-uniformed" combatants. There were teenagers fighting along with adults. Before that, Russia used partisan formations to defend herself against the superior Napoleon army. Other countries used non-uniformed combatants to survive an onslaught of aggressors.
    "...they deserved to be hunted." Tell this to the grandchildren of those who gave their lives to defend their countries while joining the anti-fascist movement in Europe. But of course, the grandchildren of collaborators would accept your words with joy. Cheerleading for Quislings.

    Surely thou jest…

    “…How about the defense of motherland, of families, traditions, ancestral grave, the ways of life? …”

    All this under the yoke of the godless communists???

    Considering that the communist administration of the Soviet Union thought that Soviet prisoners of war were traitors, answer this question: Of the Soviet soldiers killed during the war, how many ware killed by communist rear-guard troops who were ordered to fire on their own soldiers if these were to retreat or surrender?

    How many Soviet citizens were murdered by communists that donned German uniforms, in order to keep them in a state of terror and thusly controllable?

    How many Soviet citizens froze and/or starved to death because of the communist “scorched earth” policies?

    Why did the Soviet Union amass millions of its soldiers and armaments in offensive positions on their western front ie. vulnerable to a pre-emptive surprise attack?

    A book entitled Icebreaker throws some light on this issue. HdC

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    "Icebreaker, " by a well-known opportunist.
    The bad rulers are no excuse for betraying a native civilization and the memory of ancestors.
    Cheerleading for Quislings.
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  79. utu says:
    @Anon

    The “partisans” were communist, non-uniformed combatants / terrorists, illegal under international law; they deserved to be hunted.
     
    They were defending their country.

    “They were defending their country.” – Yes, but the law was on the side of Germans. The presence and action of partisans justified German retributions against the local population. You legally could take civilian hostages and execute them. Many German high ranking officers of Wehrmacht were never prosecuted after the for for these sort of actions (e.g. Kurt Waldheim) because at that time they were not illegal.

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    I beg to differ. When the enemy invades and starts burning the fucking house down, you fight back by whatever means you have available. I'm not disputing whether what Germany did was legal; I'm disputing the notion that partisans deserved what they got from a moral standpoint.
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    @utu
    "They were defending their country." - Yes, but the law was on the side of Germans. The presence and action of partisans justified German retributions against the local population. You legally could take civilian hostages and execute them. Many German high ranking officers of Wehrmacht were never prosecuted after the for for these sort of actions (e.g. Kurt Waldheim) because at that time they were not illegal.

    I beg to differ. When the enemy invades and starts burning the fucking house down, you fight back by whatever means you have available. I’m not disputing whether what Germany did was legal; I’m disputing the notion that partisans deserved what they got from a moral standpoint.

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  81. joe webb says:
    @Ace
    I see the essence of fascism as being but a variant of communist totalitarianism. The difference is merely that fascism does waste time with the ownership of the means of production nonsense and its inefficiencies. If business leaders do or do not support fascist government it makes no difference. Fascists co-opt businesses, saving themselves all the headaches of running them. Fascists distort the economy just as the socialists do by directing what will be produced and, I think, what will be retained by business owners. Malinvestment of capital is thus inherent in both approaches.

    The control issue is quite clear from Mussolini's “All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.”

    Communism and fascism are light years from the right side of the spectrum which is focused on rule of law, liberty, private property, tradition, and sanctity of contract. Of course, I recognize that you did not make the fatuous argument that fascism is "right-wing."

    disagree. Fascism, generically, in nationalist and communism is internationalist.

    Fascism is racialist usually, and communism is anti-racist.

    Fascism is corporatist in the latin sense of the word, and inclusive of all classes of people.

    Communism has genocided The Ruling Class, etc. Think Pol Pot with his problem with folks who wear glasses.

    The hysteria of the Blair mountain guy is part and parcel of the psychology of class haters. Kill them all, the God of History will absolve me…Fidel.

    Blair mountain guy is a pure commie and Hater.

    What else, communism is a Futurist ideology lacking any link to historical and biological (evolutionary) truths. Fascism is rooted in the Past…Blood and Soil, country, etc.

    Fascism is democratic in principle, if not in the practice. Communism was elitist…the Leninist Vanguard Party…modeled of course, partly, on Jewish notions of Chosen People.

    Fascism is without abstruse abstractions lacking any link to general biological and social reality.
    Communisms are pure dreams …like New Age peace/luv screwballs.

    Fascisms are militarist with regard to protection of the Homeland. Communisms are militarist with regard to wiping out reactionaries and conquering the world.

    In that sense Fascisms are Limited while communisms are without Limits…the genuine article of Totalitarian.

    Joe Webb

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  82. annamaria says:
    @HdC
    Surely thou jest...

    "...How about the defense of motherland, of families, traditions, ancestral grave, the ways of life? ..."

    All this under the yoke of the godless communists???

    Considering that the communist administration of the Soviet Union thought that Soviet prisoners of war were traitors, answer this question: Of the Soviet soldiers killed during the war, how many ware killed by communist rear-guard troops who were ordered to fire on their own soldiers if these were to retreat or surrender?

    How many Soviet citizens were murdered by communists that donned German uniforms, in order to keep them in a state of terror and thusly controllable?

    How many Soviet citizens froze and/or starved to death because of the communist "scorched earth" policies?

    Why did the Soviet Union amass millions of its soldiers and armaments in offensive positions on their western front ie. vulnerable to a pre-emptive surprise attack?

    A book entitled Icebreaker throws some light on this issue. HdC

    “Icebreaker, ” by a well-known opportunist.
    The bad rulers are no excuse for betraying a native civilization and the memory of ancestors.
    Cheerleading for Quislings.

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    Indeed, if Germany had gone in as liberators and not with racial preconceptions of superiority, they'd have been heralded as heroes.
    , @joe webb
    Quislings....sophomoronic usage. Quisling made a good deal for Norway, and if you disagree make the argument and do not just monkey around. JW
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  83. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @annamaria
    "Icebreaker, " by a well-known opportunist.
    The bad rulers are no excuse for betraying a native civilization and the memory of ancestors.
    Cheerleading for Quislings.

    Indeed, if Germany had gone in as liberators and not with racial preconceptions of superiority, they’d have been heralded as heroes.

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    serious question --

    how much of the "Nazis were racists" meme is propaganda pushed out by Anglos and Zionists and how much is real? Nazis sought to elevate German culture, history and values, and yes, keep the blood lines strong, and yes, they wanted Jews out of Germany but for political and economic reasons mainly. There's so much trash talk about how evil Hitler and Nazis were, and the idiotic notions about preference for blonde hair blue eyes, etc. that it's really difficult to know where propaganda-projection stops and real German policy begins.

    Malcolm Gladwell wrote about the numerous Jewish women who created cosmetic enterprises out of their longing to look like something they were not -- blonde and fair. That does not seem to be a trait of German women, certainly not in the pre- and post-Weimar eras.
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  84. joe webb says:
    @Skeptikal
    Just discovered Tucker Carlson?
    Under what rock have you been hiding???
    I don't even have a TV and I know who Tucker Carlson is.

    skep….I don’t watch boob tube and just got on for the election. As for the rock, you betray yourself as limited in making a coherent argument, and a troll to boot, In person, you would never say that to my face and Viking 200 solid pounds of fitness. JW

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  85. joe webb says:
    @annamaria
    "Icebreaker, " by a well-known opportunist.
    The bad rulers are no excuse for betraying a native civilization and the memory of ancestors.
    Cheerleading for Quislings.

    Quislings….sophomoronic usage. Quisling made a good deal for Norway, and if you disagree make the argument and do not just monkey around. JW

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    Not everything boils down to profit.
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  86. joe webb says:
    @bluedog
    Wow up until 1933 long way my friend from when HITLER REALLY TOOK POWER when Hitler met with the business leaders in Germany he did it with apprehension as to their reaction, but when he got thru speaking they ALL rose with the old Nazi salute and Heil Hitler,I don't know what books you read but try the History of the Third Reich or Hitler's War or any number of well documented books.
    Any fool who fails to understand the relationship between the American corporate sector and the government does so at his own risk ,or better yet ask all those countries who have felt the wrath of our military when they crossed the American business sector better known as corporate America...

    ok…..my point was and is that Big Business opposed Hitler right up to the 1933 time and then folded. To say that Big Business was fascist is wrong. Big Business is opportunistic in general, and contributed nothing in the way of money to the nazi party throughout the 20s and so on.

    As for contributing after 1933, I dunno, but as you probably are aware, only a portion of civil society joined the party.. The party wanted gung-ho folks, not dilettantes.

    The knee-jerks like Blair Mountain, insist that Big Business is fascist inherently. That is ridiculous. If anything, Big Business is Liberal…globalizing, race-equality loving in order to Sell, and totally oh so Liberal, love everybody, mexers, chinese, blacks, you name it, all the damn foreigners, but not white workers of course…too feisty.

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    Big Business is opportunistic in general, and contributed nothing in the way of money to the nazi party throughout the 20s and so on.

    As for contributing after 1933...
     

    The Nazis were supported by big money, which was necessary for them to have secured any traction at all. The bankers, Olof Aschberg and George Kareski are two that I'm aware of. Apparently a significant lot of Brit "nobility" were supportive as well.

    The fact that Jabotinsky opposed Hitler, and was able to convince Abba Achimeir to stop praising him, did not mean that all Revisionists accepted this position. Some Revisionists were still convinced that collaboration [with the Nazis] was the way forward for Zionism. The most notorious of these was Georg Kareski, whom (as we have seen) Jabotinsky tried to curb in l933.

    - Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of Dictators, Chapter 12
     

    Unfortunately, it was more fashionable and "cool" to be Red.

    Note: I believe that the banker, Kareski, was instrumental in initiating the use of the infamous yellow star as well.


    “In Amsterdam as in Warsaw, in Berlin as in Budapest, Jewish officials…
    distributed the Yellow Star badges, and sometimes, as in Warsaw, 'the sale of the armbands became a regular business; there were ordinary armbands of cloth and fancy plastic armbands …”

    ^^ Hannah Arendt, Eichmann in J erusalem^ pp. 59-61
    http://archive.org/stream/Nazi-zionistCollaboration/BAZO_djvu.txt

     

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  87. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
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    Indeed, if Germany had gone in as liberators and not with racial preconceptions of superiority, they'd have been heralded as heroes.

    serious question –

    how much of the “Nazis were racists” meme is propaganda pushed out by Anglos and Zionists and how much is real? Nazis sought to elevate German culture, history and values, and yes, keep the blood lines strong, and yes, they wanted Jews out of Germany but for political and economic reasons mainly. There’s so much trash talk about how evil Hitler and Nazis were, and the idiotic notions about preference for blonde hair blue eyes, etc. that it’s really difficult to know where propaganda-projection stops and real German policy begins.

    Malcolm Gladwell wrote about the numerous Jewish women who created cosmetic enterprises out of their longing to look like something they were not — blonde and fair. That does not seem to be a trait of German women, certainly not in the pre- and post-Weimar eras.

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    Race was a central consideration for the Nazis, and in the Nazi hierarchy of races, the Jews were considered an anti-race, which afforded them a particular role of villainy in the National Socialist Weltanschauung. Every historical ill could be traced to them, whether it was Germany's sorry state, the rampages of finance capitalism, the murderousness of the Bolsheviks, etc. It doesn't take a genius to see the NSDAP was obsessed about Jews.

    Considering that the NSDAP considered Jews to be a race and not a religion and applied laws regarding Jews to atheists and even Jews who had converted to Christianity decades earlier, it's fair to say they were racist, even if their beliefs about Slavs were not well attested, which of course they are. Thus, any law targeting Jews, including their expulsion and extermination, is racial by its very nature -- not political or economic. Were it political, then Jews who voted for conservative parties would have been tolerate. Were it economic, working-class and middle-class Jews would have been tolerated. They were not.
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  88. joe webb says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Dear Joe

    You comments are simultaneously stupid and evil.

    Native Born White American Working Class History were violent revolts against the violence of the Greedy Cheating Oligarchs:Carniege-Fricke..Old Man Rockfeller...Ford.....land owning Oligarchs in the American West..and George Washington.

    I don't worship Oligarchs and a certain type of Hierarchy that the certain Alt Righters want to bring back.

    The Commie charge was used by Oligarchs in the late 19th century-early 20th Century to bash the brains out of the Native Born White American Working Class....and the c0mmie charge was the post-war basis of the C0ld War...Which was a direct road to the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act...which was a direct road the passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act...which was a direct road to the Congressman John Lewis and C0ngresswoman Maxine Waters threatening Conservative Christian Russia with thermonuclear annihilation in 2017.

    One of the reasons why I will eternally despise the skank Anne Coulter is because her father organized Coal C0mpany vi0lence against Coal Miners.

    F you Joe Webb...and rot in Hell Ann Coulter's late father.

    hoo boy there Blair boy, tantrums in spades, Besides your obvious communist totalitarianism let me point out just one logical error…”The Commie charge was used by Oligarchs in the late 19th century-early 20th Century to bash the brains out of the Native Born White American Working Class….and the c0mmie charge was the post-war basis of the C0ld War…Which was a direct road to the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act…which was a direct road the passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act. ”

    The cold war had nothing to do with the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. And the communists were more evil (as you love to splutter) than we ever thought. The Verona papers, reveal that Joe McCarthy was correct about everything…commies everywhere in Washington. Read Solzhenitsyn on the Gulag and also of course on the jews in his last book….200 years together. My family was communist and I knew a lot of them, especially my mother, who seems a lot like you, alcoholic and ultimately pretty crazy.

    The 1965 immigration act also had nothing to do with cold war and everything to do with the Democratic Revolution which has been roiling the West since 1789. The immigration act was written by jews and subscribed to my liberals. Bring in the savages.

    Communism was the extreme of 1789. The roll back by Trump and conservatives, the start of the Counter Revolution, mostly white working class folks, is anti-communist, anti-left, etc. You appear to be a strange bird, maybe a crusty old communist who gets a kick out of Trump bashing the liberals, but your type is dangerous to anyone within striking distance, even your friends, since your emotions are pretty much out of control.
    Read my #1 after # 80 on the distinctions between fascism and communism. I would reject you on any political tendency just on emotional grounds. You are out of control, self-control.

    . JW….ex leftie, still on the side of workers, but with no illusions about their holiness.

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  89. joe webb says:
    @utu
    "I recall someone saying recently that if you tell the people the truth, you better make them laugh, or otherwise they will kill you."

    That's a good one because so true. But I do not agree with your tirade. It is more about class than race. Race and identity politics is a great camouflage and distractor that the top class loves so much to use because it works almost every time. The slaves from Africa were the greatest investment they ever made. It is a gift that keeps on giving. The multi-cultural society is all about it. The socio-economic system in Sweden will be destroyed by means of immigration because it kills cohesion, trust and empathy. They are turning Sweden into little America. Actually they are doing it everywhere. Brave new world. America everywhere. Hell on earth.

    I fail to see your logic. “multi-cultural ” actually multi-racial, is promoted by ‘the top class’ by your argument. What for, to destroy the country.

    This does not make any sense. Capitalists want to make money, not destroy their golden goose.

    You seem to accept the equality of the races, and that the capitalist pigs just want to destroy working class solidarity…the old argument from the left.

    what destroys working class solidarity, white working class solidarity that is, is whites fighting among themselves over the Holy Negro. This was the intent of the Jews when they founded the NAACP. Then they wrote the 1965 immigration act, again to destroy white ethnic solidarity…get whites fighting over Negroes, and now all the Others.

    Where is your thinking cap anyway? JW

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  90. @joe webb
    ok.....my point was and is that Big Business opposed Hitler right up to the 1933 time and then folded. To say that Big Business was fascist is wrong. Big Business is opportunistic in general, and contributed nothing in the way of money to the nazi party throughout the 20s and so on.

    As for contributing after 1933, I dunno, but as you probably are aware, only a portion of civil society joined the party.. The party wanted gung-ho folks, not dilettantes.

    The knee-jerks like Blair Mountain, insist that Big Business is fascist inherently. That is ridiculous. If anything, Big Business is Liberal...globalizing, race-equality loving in order to Sell, and totally oh so Liberal, love everybody, mexers, chinese, blacks, you name it, all the damn foreigners, but not white workers of course...too feisty.

    Joe Webb

    Big Business is opportunistic in general, and contributed nothing in the way of money to the nazi party throughout the 20s and so on.

    As for contributing after 1933…

    The Nazis were supported by big money, which was necessary for them to have secured any traction at all. The bankers, Olof Aschberg and George Kareski are two that I’m aware of. Apparently a significant lot of Brit “nobility” were supportive as well.

    The fact that Jabotinsky opposed Hitler, and was able to convince Abba Achimeir to stop praising him, did not mean that all Revisionists accepted this position. Some Revisionists were still convinced that collaboration [with the Nazis] was the way forward for Zionism. The most notorious of these was Georg Kareski, whom (as we have seen) Jabotinsky tried to curb in l933.

    - Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of Dictators, Chapter 12

    Unfortunately, it was more fashionable and “cool” to be Red.

    Note: I believe that the banker, Kareski, was instrumental in initiating the use of the infamous yellow star as well.

    “In Amsterdam as in Warsaw, in Berlin as in Budapest, Jewish officials…
    distributed the Yellow Star badges, and sometimes, as in Warsaw, ‘the sale of the armbands became a regular business; there were ordinary armbands of cloth and fancy plastic armbands …”

    ^^ Hannah Arendt, Eichmann in J erusalem^ pp. 59-61

    http://archive.org/stream/Nazi-zionistCollaboration/BAZO_djvu.txt

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    well, I can only repeat, read a whole book on the matter, by Turner, German Big Business and the Rise of HItler. 1985.

    Turner examines the finances of the party....virtually all of it was raised by the party itself. You have to read the details . it is a real history, not just opinion.

    Someone recommend Hitler's War, by I guess Irving. I read it. I do not Trust Irving having knowledge of him personally. He is a pig when it comes to women...I can tell a story that I saw myself; and he is a nazi. (Hitler would have had him whipped ) So, for myself , just a partizan writer. Also, the forests for the trees was my sense of his writing. JW
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  91. Ivan K. says:

    Cool off with “White.” Let alone that white are millions of Muslims, and dark-skinned are thousands of sophisticated Trump supporters. The clarion call about the danger to the white race was sounded off by Oswald Spengler a century ago. Then, Spengler felt it necessary to clarify:

    I repeat: race that one has, not a race to which one belongs. The one is ethos, the other – zoology.

    That (zoology-like) evolutionary selective pressures during history equal ethos and race is sometimes claimed scientifically. Scientific Marxism used to be embraced by many, with results that were devastating. Between the choices on this matter, I hope the good ones will prevail.

    Scientism, after all, is typically a flaw of the left. That it is to be found in any direction we look does not make it any righter.

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    Ivan, while "white" as in phenotype is not always reliable (meaning folks from Europe ) it , beyond the literal, means European.

    Spengler was wrong about race. He said that "having race," means having children and promoting your own people. That was not unreasonable given his times and his general point of view. In other words, it was nationalism, not race per se, that he was concerned about. Darwin had not reached Spengler.

    zoological was mentioned above somewhere. Forget the abstract attempt to classify by morphology alone.

    Lynn's and others studies of IQ tell the truth about 'race' in one dimension...intelligence. Temperament studies would be great to have, but I assume that assessing temperament takes a lot of time as opposed to IQ tests.

    Average IQ of Arabs and Persians comes in at about 84 with, for example Egypt at 81 as I recall, located next to African black areas..

    There is nothing like high intelligence...in Everything, from personal relations to thinking clearly, part of which is acute awareness of one's own emotional excess possibilities.

    When I complained about the claim that the Arab Spring was a merely a creature of Washington, or the Anglo-Zionist conspiracy (which does exist in some form, but it is not the only game in town) I also stated that the Arabs have "agency" and that they are not just puppets . etc.

    I also remarked that virtually all countries, except those is sub-Sahara Africa, have a right tail of their otherwise mediocre bell curve which contains those who are smart enough to build things, etc. Ergo, Arabs and Persians are smart enough to get lots of things done. Like opposing Israel.

    I am reading Orientalism by .Edward Said, which is a spectacular survey of 19th and 20th C. White folks' opinions on the ME. Orientalism is accused by Said as just White appropriation of the Orient and completely wrong because it is White. Psychology of White Racism, etc.

    The problem with it is that Said does not offer the Correction. At least so far...halfway plus...he does not provide an alternative assessment of the ME by Arab authors. Also, since the book is old now (about 1978), and Arabs arguably have been speaking for themselves as opposed to White guys Interpreting them, for some decades now, and what they are saying is not particularly impressive...positively....the book seems like just one big Complaint. Like Black complaints here at home.

    All of which is beside the point when it comes to the Fundamental of Israeli crimes against the Arabs, etc. and our own capon servitude to the Holy People...which as I keep on saying, is rooted in American Protestantism's luv of the jews. (just watched the TV coverage of the Inauguration, with the rabbi talking much longer than the other guys...OT. OT.)

    So, Said was brilliant, yet he even states in his introduction that his sources are only Orientalist sources.....not even a cursory attempt to provide other sources.

    It boils down to "it's the white guys." No, the Arabs are demonstrating their oriental despotism, and like in 1948 in Palestine, they were fighting one-another rather than killing jews.

    Low IQ and emotionalism. The Arab Spring never had a chance , not because of the white man, but because of the Arab.



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  92. annamaria says:
    @joe webb
    Quislings....sophomoronic usage. Quisling made a good deal for Norway, and if you disagree make the argument and do not just monkey around. JW

    Not everything boils down to profit.

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    @Anonymous
    serious question --

    how much of the "Nazis were racists" meme is propaganda pushed out by Anglos and Zionists and how much is real? Nazis sought to elevate German culture, history and values, and yes, keep the blood lines strong, and yes, they wanted Jews out of Germany but for political and economic reasons mainly. There's so much trash talk about how evil Hitler and Nazis were, and the idiotic notions about preference for blonde hair blue eyes, etc. that it's really difficult to know where propaganda-projection stops and real German policy begins.

    Malcolm Gladwell wrote about the numerous Jewish women who created cosmetic enterprises out of their longing to look like something they were not -- blonde and fair. That does not seem to be a trait of German women, certainly not in the pre- and post-Weimar eras.

    Race was a central consideration for the Nazis, and in the Nazi hierarchy of races, the Jews were considered an anti-race, which afforded them a particular role of villainy in the National Socialist Weltanschauung. Every historical ill could be traced to them, whether it was Germany’s sorry state, the rampages of finance capitalism, the murderousness of the Bolsheviks, etc. It doesn’t take a genius to see the NSDAP was obsessed about Jews.

    Considering that the NSDAP considered Jews to be a race and not a religion and applied laws regarding Jews to atheists and even Jews who had converted to Christianity decades earlier, it’s fair to say they were racist, even if their beliefs about Slavs were not well attested, which of course they are. Thus, any law targeting Jews, including their expulsion and extermination, is racial by its very nature — not political or economic. Were it political, then Jews who voted for conservative parties would have been tolerate. Were it economic, working-class and middle-class Jews would have been tolerated. They were not.

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    ", it’s fair to say they were racist, even if their beliefs about Slavs were not well attested, which of course they are." Please clarify with regard to Slavs.

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  94. joe webb says:
    @Ivan K.
    Cool off with "White." Let alone that white are millions of Muslims, and dark-skinned are thousands of sophisticated Trump supporters. The clarion call about the danger to the white race was sounded off by Oswald Spengler a century ago. Then, Spengler felt it necessary to clarify:

    "I repeat: race that one has, not a race to which one belongs. The one is ethos, the other - zoology."

    That (zoology-like) evolutionary selective pressures during history equal ethos and race is sometimes claimed scientifically. Scientific Marxism used to be embraced by many, with results that were devastating. Between the choices on this matter, I hope the good ones will prevail.

    ...

    Scientism, after all, is typically a flaw of the left. That it is to be found in any direction we look does not make it any righter.

    Ivan, while “white” as in phenotype is not always reliable (meaning folks from Europe ) it , beyond the literal, means European.

    Spengler was wrong about race. He said that “having race,” means having children and promoting your own people. That was not unreasonable given his times and his general point of view. In other words, it was nationalism, not race per se, that he was concerned about. Darwin had not reached Spengler.

    zoological was mentioned above somewhere. Forget the abstract attempt to classify by morphology alone.

    Lynn’s and others studies of IQ tell the truth about ‘race’ in one dimension…intelligence. Temperament studies would be great to have, but I assume that assessing temperament takes a lot of time as opposed to IQ tests.

    Average IQ of Arabs and Persians comes in at about 84 with, for example Egypt at 81 as I recall, located next to African black areas..

    There is nothing like high intelligence…in Everything, from personal relations to thinking clearly, part of which is acute awareness of one’s own emotional excess possibilities.

    When I complained about the claim that the Arab Spring was a merely a creature of Washington, or the Anglo-Zionist conspiracy (which does exist in some form, but it is not the only game in town) I also stated that the Arabs have “agency” and that they are not just puppets . etc.

    I also remarked that virtually all countries, except those is sub-Sahara Africa, have a right tail of their otherwise mediocre bell curve which contains those who are smart enough to build things, etc. Ergo, Arabs and Persians are smart enough to get lots of things done. Like opposing Israel.

    I am reading Orientalism by .Edward Said, which is a spectacular survey of 19th and 20th C. White folks’ opinions on the ME. Orientalism is accused by Said as just White appropriation of the Orient and completely wrong because it is White. Psychology of White Racism, etc.

    The problem with it is that Said does not offer the Correction. At least so far…halfway plus…he does not provide an alternative assessment of the ME by Arab authors. Also, since the book is old now (about 1978), and Arabs arguably have been speaking for themselves as opposed to White guys Interpreting them, for some decades now, and what they are saying is not particularly impressive…positively….the book seems like just one big Complaint. Like Black complaints here at home.

    All of which is beside the point when it comes to the Fundamental of Israeli crimes against the Arabs, etc. and our own capon servitude to the Holy People…which as I keep on saying, is rooted in American Protestantism’s luv of the jews. (just watched the TV coverage of the Inauguration, with the rabbi talking much longer than the other guys…OT. OT.)

    So, Said was brilliant, yet he even states in his introduction that his sources are only Orientalist sources…..not even a cursory attempt to provide other sources.

    It boils down to “it’s the white guys.” No, the Arabs are demonstrating their oriental despotism, and like in 1948 in Palestine, they were fighting one-another rather than killing jews.

    Low IQ and emotionalism. The Arab Spring never had a chance , not because of the white man, but because of the Arab.

    Joe Webb

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  95. joe webb says:
    @jacques sheete

    Big Business is opportunistic in general, and contributed nothing in the way of money to the nazi party throughout the 20s and so on.

    As for contributing after 1933...
     

    The Nazis were supported by big money, which was necessary for them to have secured any traction at all. The bankers, Olof Aschberg and George Kareski are two that I'm aware of. Apparently a significant lot of Brit "nobility" were supportive as well.

    The fact that Jabotinsky opposed Hitler, and was able to convince Abba Achimeir to stop praising him, did not mean that all Revisionists accepted this position. Some Revisionists were still convinced that collaboration [with the Nazis] was the way forward for Zionism. The most notorious of these was Georg Kareski, whom (as we have seen) Jabotinsky tried to curb in l933.

    - Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of Dictators, Chapter 12
     

    Unfortunately, it was more fashionable and "cool" to be Red.

    Note: I believe that the banker, Kareski, was instrumental in initiating the use of the infamous yellow star as well.


    “In Amsterdam as in Warsaw, in Berlin as in Budapest, Jewish officials…
    distributed the Yellow Star badges, and sometimes, as in Warsaw, 'the sale of the armbands became a regular business; there were ordinary armbands of cloth and fancy plastic armbands …”

    ^^ Hannah Arendt, Eichmann in J erusalem^ pp. 59-61
    http://archive.org/stream/Nazi-zionistCollaboration/BAZO_djvu.txt

     

    well, I can only repeat, read a whole book on the matter, by Turner, German Big Business and the Rise of HItler. 1985.

    Turner examines the finances of the party….virtually all of it was raised by the party itself. You have to read the details . it is a real history, not just opinion.

    Someone recommend Hitler’s War, by I guess Irving. I read it. I do not Trust Irving having knowledge of him personally. He is a pig when it comes to women…I can tell a story that I saw myself; and he is a nazi. (Hitler would have had him whipped ) So, for myself , just a partizan writer. Also, the forests for the trees was my sense of his writing. JW

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  96. joe webb says:
    @Anon
    Race was a central consideration for the Nazis, and in the Nazi hierarchy of races, the Jews were considered an anti-race, which afforded them a particular role of villainy in the National Socialist Weltanschauung. Every historical ill could be traced to them, whether it was Germany's sorry state, the rampages of finance capitalism, the murderousness of the Bolsheviks, etc. It doesn't take a genius to see the NSDAP was obsessed about Jews.

    Considering that the NSDAP considered Jews to be a race and not a religion and applied laws regarding Jews to atheists and even Jews who had converted to Christianity decades earlier, it's fair to say they were racist, even if their beliefs about Slavs were not well attested, which of course they are. Thus, any law targeting Jews, including their expulsion and extermination, is racial by its very nature -- not political or economic. Were it political, then Jews who voted for conservative parties would have been tolerate. Were it economic, working-class and middle-class Jews would have been tolerated. They were not.

    “, it’s fair to say they were racist, even if their beliefs about Slavs were not well attested, which of course they are.” Please clarify with regard to Slavs.

    JW

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    "As for the ridiculous hundred million Slavs, we will mold the best of them as we see fit, and we will isolate the rest of them in their own pig-sties; and anyone who talks about cherishing the local inhabitants and civilizing them, goes straight off into a concentration camp!"

    That's Hitler in the summer of 1941.
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    ", it’s fair to say they were racist, even if their beliefs about Slavs were not well attested, which of course they are." Please clarify with regard to Slavs.

    JW

    “As for the ridiculous hundred million Slavs, we will mold the best of them as we see fit, and we will isolate the rest of them in their own pig-sties; and anyone who talks about cherishing the local inhabitants and civilizing them, goes straight off into a concentration camp!”

    That’s Hitler in the summer of 1941.

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    that's right. petty German nationalism. I do not support H. and I campaign against the Hitler shadow around the WN folks. I no longer call my self a WN after the chimping out of Richard Spencer. thanks. JW
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  98. Art says:

    The Issue Is Not Trump. It Is Us

    No the problem is JEWS.

    Jew Chuck Schumer is holding America hostage – he will not let us have a new CIA chief.

    Same-o same-o divide and conquer Jew politics – enough!

    On the outside he talks American – on the inside he is a Jew working for Israel.

    Dividing America gives Jews political power.

    Peace — Art

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  99. joe webb says:
    @Anon
    "As for the ridiculous hundred million Slavs, we will mold the best of them as we see fit, and we will isolate the rest of them in their own pig-sties; and anyone who talks about cherishing the local inhabitants and civilizing them, goes straight off into a concentration camp!"

    That's Hitler in the summer of 1941.

    that’s right. petty German nationalism. I do not support H. and I campaign against the Hitler shadow around the WN folks. I no longer call my self a WN after the chimping out of Richard Spencer. thanks. JW

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    Your comments in this thread are the only ones that don't invariably have to be run through a fine-grained flour sifter to eliminate the moral and intellectual absurdities and practically countless examples of ignorance anent history, culture, and ideology before being safely consumed (I pass in silence over the outright lies and liars).

    I wish to goodness that you—i.e., your comments (articles, too)—were once again a presence over at TOO. In writing thus, I intend no criticism of this website. It's simply that my failing health won't permit me to spread my limited remaining time and energy any thinner than they already have been spread.

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    that's right. petty German nationalism. I do not support H. and I campaign against the Hitler shadow around the WN folks. I no longer call my self a WN after the chimping out of Richard Spencer. thanks. JW

    Your comments in this thread are the only ones that don’t invariably have to be run through a fine-grained flour sifter to eliminate the moral and intellectual absurdities and practically countless examples of ignorance anent history, culture, and ideology before being safely consumed (I pass in silence over the outright lies and liars).

    I wish to goodness that you—i.e., your comments (articles, too)—were once again a presence over at TOO. In writing thus, I intend no criticism of this website. It’s simply that my failing health won’t permit me to spread my limited remaining time and energy any thinner than they already have been spread.

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