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Is the Church the whore of Yahweh?

I concluded an earlier article by what I regard as the most important “revelation” of modern biblical scholarship, one that has the potential to free the Western world from a two-thousand-year-old psychopathic bond: the jealous Yahweh was originally just the national god of Israel, repackaged into “the God of Heaven and Earth” during the Babylonian Exile, as part of a public relations campaign aimed at Persians, then Greeks and ultimately Romans. The resulting biblical notion that the universal Creator became Israel’s national god at the time of Moses, is thus exposed as a fictitious inversion of the historical process: in reality, it is the national god of Israel who, so to speak, impersonated the universal Creator at the time of Ezra—while remaining intensely ethnocentric.

The Book of Joshua is a good eye-opener to the biblical hoax, because its pre-exilic author never refers to Yahweh simply as “God,” and never implies that he is anything but “the god of Israel,” that is, “our god” for the Israelites, and “your god” for their enemies (25 times). Yahweh shows no interest in converting Canaanite peoples, whom he regards as worth less than their livestock. He doesn’t instruct Joshua to even try to convert them, but simply to exterminate them, in keeping with the war code he gave Moses in Deuteronomy 20.

However, we find in the Book of Joshua one isolated statement by a Canaanite woman that “Yahweh your god is God both in Heaven above and on Earth beneath” (2:11). Rahab, a prostitute in Jericho, makes that statement to two Israeli spies who spend the night with her, and whom she hides in exchange for being spared, together with her family, when the Israelites will take over the city and slaughter everyone, “men and women, young and old” (6:21). Rahab’s “profession of faith” is probably a post-exilic insertion, because it doesn’t fit well with her other claim that she is motivated by fear, not by faith: “we are afraid of you and everyone living in this country has been seized with terror at your approach” (2:9). Nevertheless, the combination of fear and faith is consistent with Yahweh’s ways.

The French Catholic Bible de Jérusalem—a scholarly translation by the Dominicans of the École Biblique, which served as guideline for the English Jerusalem Bible—adds a following footnote to Rahab’s “profession of faith to the God of Israel”, saying it “made Rahab, in the eyes of more than one Church Father, a figure of the Gentile Church, saved by her faith.”

I find this footnote emblematic of the role of Christianity in propagating among Gentiles the Israelites’ outrageous metaphysical claim, that great deception that has remained, to this day, a source of tremendous symbolic power. By recognizing her own image in the prostitute of Jericho, the Church claims for herself the role that is exactly hers in history, while radically misleading Christians about the historical significance of that role. It is indeed the Church who, having acknowledged the god of Israel as the universal God, introduced the Jews into the heart of the Gentile city and, over the centuries, allowed them to seize power over Christendom.

This thesis, which I am going to develop here, may seem fanciful, because we have been taught that Christianity was strongly Judeophobic from the start. And that’s true. For example, John Chrysostom, perhaps the most influential Greek theologian of the crucial 4th century, wrote several homilies “Against the Jews”. But what he is concerned about, precisely, is the nefarious influence of the Jews over Christians. Many Christians, he complains, “join the Jews in keeping their feasts and observing their fasts” and even believe that “they think as we do” (First homily, I,5).

“Is it not strange that those who worship the Crucified keep common festival with those who crucified him? Is it not a sign of folly and the worst madness? […] For when they see that you, who worship the Christ whom they crucified, are reverently following their rituals, how can they fail to think that the rites they have performed are the best and that our ceremonies are worthless?” (First Homily, V,1-7).

To John’s horror, some Christians even get circumcised. “Do not tell me,” he warns them, “that circumcision is just a single command; it is that very command which imposes on you the entire yoke of the Law” (Second Homily, II,4). And so, with all its Judeophobia (anachronistically renamed “anti-Semitism” today), John Chrysostom’s homilies are a testimony to the strong influence that Jews have exerted on Gentile Christians in the early days of the triumphant, imperial Church. And no matter how much the Greek and Latin Fathers have tried to protect their flock from the influence of Jews, it has persisted as the Church expanded. It can even be argued that the history of Christianity is the history of its Judaization, from Constantinople to Rome, then from Rome to Amsterdam and to the New World.

We commonly admit that the Church has always oppressed the Jews and prevented their integration unless they convert. Were they not expelled from one Christian kingdom after another in the Middle Ages? Again, this is true, but we must distinguish between the cause and the effect. Each of these expulsions has been a reaction to a situation unknown in pre-Christian Antiquity: Jewish communities gaining inordinate economic power, under the protection of a royal administration (Jews served as the kings’ tax collectors and moneylenders, and were particularly indispensable in times of war), until this economic power, yielding political power, reaches a point of saturation, causes pogroms and forces the king into taking measures.

Let us consider for example the influence of the Jews in Western Europe under the Carolingians. It reaches a climax under Charlemagne’s son, Louis the Pious. The bishop of Lyon Agobard (c. 769-840) left us five letters or treatises written to protest against the power granted to the Jews at the detriment of Christians. In On the insolence of the Jews, addressed to Louis the Pious in 826, Agobard complains that the Jews produce “signed ordinances of your name with golden seals” guaranteeing them outrageous advantages, and that the envoys of the Emperor are “terrible towards Christians and gentle towards Jews.” Agobard even complains of an imperial edict imposing Sunday rather than Saturday as market day, in order to please the Jews. In another letter, he complains of an edict forbidding anyone to baptize the slaves of the Jews without the permission of their masters.[1]Adrien Bressolles, “La question juive au temps de Louis le Pieux,” in Revue d’histoire de l’Église de France, tome 28, n°113, 1942. pp. 51-64, on https://www.persee.fr

Louis the Pious was said to be under the influence of his wife, Queen Judith—a name that simply means “Jewess”. She was so friendly to Jews that the Jewish historian Heinrich Graetz hypothesizes that she was a secret Jewess, in the manner of the biblical Esther. Graetz describes the reign of Louis and Judith (and “the treasurer Bernhard, the real ruler of the kingdom” according to him) as a golden age for the Jews, and points out that in the emperor’s court, many regarded Judaism as the true religion. This is illustrated by the resounding conversion of Louis’ confessor, Bishop Bodo, who took the name of Eleazar, had himself circumcised, and married a Jewess. “Cultured Christians,” writes Graetz, “refreshed themselves with the writings of the Jewish historian Josephus and the Jewish philosopher Philo, and read their works in preference to those of the apostles.”[2]Heinrich Graetz, History of the Jews, Jewish Publication Society of America, 1891 (archive.org), vol. III, ch. VI, p. 162. The Judaization of the Roman Church at this time is appropriately symbolized by the adoption of unleavened bread for communion, with no justification in the Gospel. I say “the Roman Church”, but perhaps it should be called the Frankish Church because, from the time of Charlemagne, it was taken over by ethnic Franks with geopolitical designs on Byzantium, as Orthodox theologian John Romanides has convincingly argued.[3]John Romanides, Franks, Romans, Feudalism, and Doctrine: An Interplay Between Theology and Society, Holy Cross Orthodox Press, 1981, on www.romanity.org/htm/rom.03.en.franks_romans_feudalism_and_doctrine.01.htm

The Old Testament was especially influential in the Frankish spheres of power. Popular piety focused on the Gospel narratives (canonical gospels, but also apocryphal ones like the immensely popular Gospel of Nicodemus), the worship of Mary, and the ubiquitous cults of the saints, but kings and popes relied on a political theology drawn from the Tanakh. The Hebrew Bible had been a major part of Frankish propaganda from the late sixth century. Gregory of Tours’ History of the Franks, the primary—and mostly legendary—source for Merovingian history, is framed on the providential ideology of the Books of Kings: the good kings are those who support the Catholic Church, and the bad kings those who resist the growth of its power. Under Louis the Pious, the rite of anointment of the Frankish kings was designed after the model of the prophet Samuel’s anointment of King David in 1Samuel 16.

The Old Testament as Israel’s Trojan Horse

In pre-Christian times, pagan scholars had shown little interest in the Hebrew Bible. Jewish writers (Aristobulus of Paneas, Artapan of Alexandria) had tried to bluff the Greeks on the antiquity of the Torah, claiming that Homer, Hesiod, Pythagoras, Socrates and Plato had been inspired by Moses, but no one before the Church Fathers seems to have taken them seriously. Jews had even produced fake Greek prophecies of their success under the title Sibylline Oracles, and written under a Greek pseudonym a Letter of Aristea to Philocrates praising Judaism, but again, it was not until the triumph of Christianity that these texts were met with Gentile gullibility.

Thanks to Christianity, the Jewish Tanakh was elevated to the status of authoritative history, and Jewish authors writing for pagans, such as Josephus and Philo, gained undeserved reputation—while being ignored by rabbinic Judaism. Christian academia uncritically tuned to the rigged history of the Jews. While Herodotus had crossed Syria-Palestine around 450 BCE without hearing about Judeans or Israelites, Christian historians decided that Jerusalem had been at that time the center of the world, and accepted as fact the totally fictitious empire of Solomon. Until the 19th century, world history was calibrated on a largely fanciful biblical chronology (Egyptology is now trying to recover from it).[4]Read Gunnar Heinsohn, “The Restauration of Ancient History,” on www.mikamar.biz/symposium/heinsohn.txt et John Crowe, “The Revision of Ancient History – A Perspective,” on www.sis-group.org.uk/ancient.htm

It can be argued, of course, that the Old Testament has served Christendom well: it was certainly not in the nonviolence of Christ that the Catholic Church found the energy and ideological means to impose its world order for nearly a thousand years on Western Europe. Yet for this glorious past, there was obviously a price to pay, a debt to the Jews that has to be paid one way or another. It is as if Christianity has sold its soul to the god of Israel, in exchange for its great accomplishment.

The Church has always advertised itself to the Jews as the gateway out of the prison of the Law, into the freedom of Christ. But it has never requested Jewish converts to leave their Torah on the doorstep. The Jews who entered the Church entered with their Bible, that is to say, with a big part of their Jewishness, while freeing themselves from all the civil restrictions imposed on their non-converted brethren.

When Jews were judged too slow to convert willingly, they were sometimes forced into baptism under threats of expulsion or death. The first documented case goes back to Clovis’ grandson, according to Bishop Gregory of Tours:

“King Chilperic commanded that a large number of Jews be baptized, and he himself held several on the fonts. But many were baptized only in body and not in heart; they soon returned to their deceitful habits, for they really kept the Sabbath, and pretended to honor the Sunday” (History of the Franks, chapter V).

Such collective forced conversions, producing only insincere and resentful Christians, were conducted throughout the Middle Ages. Hundreds of thousands of Spanish and Portuguese Jews were forced to convert at the end of the 15th century, before emigrating throughout Europe. Many of these “New Christians” not only continued to “Judaize” among themselves, but could now have greater influence on the “Old Christians”. The penetration of the Jewish spirit into the Roman Church, under the influence of these reluctantly converted Jews and their descendants, is a much more massive phenomenon than is generally admitted.

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One case in point is the Jesuit Order, whose foundation coincided with the peak of the Spanish repression against Marranos, with the 1547 “purity-of-blood” legislation issued by the Archbishop of Toledo and Inquisitor General of Spain. Of the seven founding members, four at least were of Jewish ancestry. The case of Loyola himself is unclear, but he was noted for his strong philo-Semitism. Robert Markys has demonstrated, in a groundbreaking study (free download here, review here), how crypto-Jews infiltrated key positions in the Jesuit Order from its very beginning, resorting to nepotism in order to eventually establish a monopoly on top positions that extended to the Vatican. King Phillip II of Spain called the Order a “Synagogue of Hebrews.”[5]Robert A. Markys, The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews: Jesuits of Jewish Ancestry and Purity-of-Blood Laws in the Early Society of Jesus, Brill, 2009, free download on http://www.oapen.org/search?identifier=627427

Marranos established in the Spanish Netherlands played an important role in the Calvinist movement. According to Jewish historian Lucien Wolf,

“the Marranos in Antwerp had taken an active part in the Reformation movement, and had given up their mask of Catholicism for a not less hollow pretense of Calvinism. […] The simulation of Calvinism brought them new friends, who, like them, were enemies of Rome, Spain and the Inquisition. […] Moreover, it was a form of Christianity which came nearer to their own simple Judaism.”[6]Lucien Wolf, Report on the “Marranos” or Crypto-Jews of Portugal, Anglo-Jewish Association, 1926.

Calvin himself had learned Hebrew from rabbis and heaped praise on the Jewish people. He wrote in his commentary on Psalm 119: “Where did Our Lord Jesus Christ and his apostles draw their doctrine, if not Moses? And when we peel off all the layers, we find that the Gospel is simply an exhibition of what Moses had already said.” The Covenant of God with the Jewish people is irrevocable because “no promise of God can be undone.” That Covenant, “in its substance and truth, is so similar to ours, that we can call them one. The only difference is the order in which they were given.”[7]Vincent Schmid, “Calvin et les Juifs : Prémices du dialogue judéo-chrétien chez Jean Calvin,” 2008, on www.racinesetsources.ch.

Within one century, Calvinism, or Puritanism, became a dominant cultural and political force in England. Jewish historian Cecil Roth explains:

“The religious developments of the seventeenth century brought to its climax an unmistakable philo-semitic tendency in certain English circles. Puritanism represented above all a return to the Bible, and this automatically fostered a more favourable frame of mind towards the people of the Old Testament.”[8]Cecil Roth, A History of the Jews in England (1941), Clarendon Press, 1964, p. 148.

Some British Puritans went so far as to consider the Leviticus as still in force; they circumcised their children and scrupulously respected the Sabbath. Under Charles I (1625–1649), wrote Isaac d’Israeli (father of Benjamin Disraeli), “it seemed that religion chiefly consisted of Sabbatarian rigours; and that a British senate had been transformed into a company of Hebrew Rabbis.”[9]Isaac Disraeli, Commentaries on the Life and Reign of Charles the First, King of England, 2 vols., 1851, quoted in Archibald Maule Ramsay, The Nameless War, 1952 (archive.org). Wealthy Jews started to marry their daughters into the British aristocracy, to the extent that, according to Hilaire Belloc’s estimate, “with the opening of the twentieth century those of the great territorial English families in which there was no Jewish blood were the exception.”[10]Hilaire Belloc, The Jews, Constable & Co., 1922 (archive.org), p. 223.

The influence of Puritanism on many aspects of British society naturally extended to the United States. The national mythology of the “Pilgrim Fathers” fleeing Egypt (Anglican England) and settling into the Promised Land as the new chosen people, sets the tone. However, the Judaization of American Christianity has not been a spontaneous process from within, but rather one controlled by skillful manipulations from outside. For the 19th century, a good example is the Scofield Reference Bible, published in 1909 by Oxford University Press, under the sponsorship of Samuel Untermeyer, a Wall Street lawyer, Federal Reserve co-founder, and devoted Zionist, who would become the herald of the “holy war” against Germany in 1933. The Scofield Bible is loaded with highly tendentious footnotes. For example, Yahweh’s promise to Abraham in Genesis 12:1-3 gets a two-thirds-page footnote explaining that “God made an unconditional promise of blessings through Abram’s seed to the nation of Israel to inherit a specific territory forever” (although Jacob, who first received the name Israel, was not yet born”. The same note explains that “Both O.T. and N.T. are full of post-Sinaitic promises concerning Israel and the land which is to be Israel’s everlasting possession,” accompanied by “a curse laid upon those who persecute the Jews,” or “commit the sin of anti-Semitism.”[11]Joseph Canfield, The Incredible Scofield and His Book, Ross House Books, 2004, pp. 219–220.

As a result of this kind of gross propaganda, most American Evangelicals regard the creation of Israel in 1948 and its military victory in 1967 as miracles fulfilling biblical prophecies and heralding the second coming of Christ. Jerry Falwell declared, “Right at the very top of our priorities must be an unswerving commitment and devotion to the state of Israel,” while Pat Robertson said “The future of this Nation [America] may be at stake, because God will bless those that bless Israel.” As for John Hagee, chairman of Christians United for Israel, he once declared: “The United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God’s plan for both Israel and the West.”[12]Jill Duchess of Hamilton, God, Guns and Israel: Britain, The First World War And The Jews in the Holy City, The History Press, 2009 , kindle, e. 414-417.

Gullible Christians not only see God’s hand whenever Israel advances in its self-prophesized destiny of world domination, but are ready to see Israeli leaders themselves as prophets when they announce their own false-flag crimes: Michael Evans, author of American Prophecies, believes that Isser Harel, founder of Israeli secret services, had a prophetic inspiration when, in 1980, he predicted that Islamic terrorists would hit the Twin Towers.[13]Michael Evans, The American Prophecies, Terrorism and Mid-East Conflict Reveal a Nation’s Destiny, Hodder & Stoughton, 2005, quoted in Christopher Bollyn, Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World, C. Bollyn, 2012, p. 71. Benjamin Netanyahu also boasted on CNN in 2006 to have prophesized 9/11 in 1995. To the less gullible, this tells a lot about the Jewish gift of prophecy.

Christians’ learned helplessness

It is beyond question that Christianity played a major role in the creation of Israel, and continues to play a major role in securing American and European support for its criminal enterprises. This has nothing to do with Jesus’ teaching or the example he set with his life and death, of course. Rather, this was due to the Od Testament, Israel’s Trojan Horse inside Christianity. By recognizing the Jews’ special status as the people of the Old Testament, Christians have granted them an extraordinary symbolic power that no other ethnic community can compete with.

For two thousand years, Christianity has taught Gentiles to consent to the delusional claim of the Jews to divine election: are they not the first and only ethnic group whom the God of the universe has addressed personally, the people whom He has loved to the point of exterminating its enemies? It matters not that Christians tell the Jews that they have lost the election because they rejected Christ: the main price is theirs. To accept the biblical notion of “chosen people”, whatever the reservations, is to accept the metaphysical superiority of the Jews. If Christ is Israel’s Messiah, then truly, “salvation is from the Jews” (John 4:22).

We are experiencing today the final consequences of this submission, which the peoples of Antiquity could never have imagined in their worst nightmares. The exalted status of the Jews and of their “holy history” is the deeper reason for their influence on the affairs of the world. By accepting the triple biblical paradigm—Jealous God, Chosen People, Promised Land—, Christian Churches, Catholic and Protestant in particular, have become complicit with the imperialistic project of the Hebrew Bible. Therefore, there will be no definitive emancipation from Zion without mental and moral emancipation from the biblical matrix.

When reading the Book of Joshua, a Christian is supposed to approve, as a matter of principle, the extermination of the inhabitants of the cities of Canaan and the stealing of their land, since it was ordained by God. The editors of my Bible de Jérusalem explain in a footnote to chapter 3:

“Joshua was considered by the Fathers as a figure of his namesake Jesus [their names are identical in Hebrew], and the Jordanian passage as a figure of Christian baptism.”

How can Joshua be a figure of Jesus? What has Jesus’s Sermon on the Mount to do with Joshua’s bloodthirsty fanatism? How can the god of Joshua be the Father of Christ? A crippling cognitive dissonance has seized Christian peoples, causing a chronic inability to think intelligently about the divine, and to see and resist the violence of Israel. We can also compare the Christian world to a son who has been lied to all his life about his real father, and, on top of that, told that his father was a war criminal, when in fact he is the son of a loving father. The neurotic ailments that genealogical lies and secrets may cause over several generations, though largely mysterious, have been well documented in the last fifty years (particularly by French psychogenealogists), and I believe such considerations, applied to the usurpation of our Heavenly Parent’s identity by the psychopathic Yahweh, are relevant to the psychology of nations.

As a matter of principle, the Christian is supposed to approve Yahweh’s sentence on those who ate with the Moabites and took wives among them: “Yahweh said to Moses, ‘Take all the leaders of the people. Impale them facing the sun, for Yahweh, to deflect his burning anger from Israel’” (Numbers 25:4). But then, why blame the Jerusalem priestly cast for sending Jesus to the torture? Explain to me in which way they were unfaithful to the Torah! Not to mention, of course, the inherent contradiction in blaming them for the Cross since, according to the Gospel, “the Son of man was destined to suffer grievously, and to be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes, and to be put to death, and after three days to rise again” (Mark 8:31).

The sanctification of Yahweh’s bloody leadership during the Exodus and the conquest of Canaan has made Gentiles incapable of understanding the historical foundation of Jewishness, and helpless in the face of its intrinsic violence today. It has created a blind spot in Christians’ mind: they may see the effects of Zion’s evil power, but not its cause, falsely assuming that the moral corruption they see in Jews comes from the Talmud and the Kabbalah.

Christians cannot even see the Jewish plan for world domination that is written in plain language, right under their nose. If the Jewish Tanakh had not become the Christians’ Holy Book, it would have been exposed as the proof for Israel’s racist and supremacist ambitions long ago. But when it comes to the Old Testament, Christians are seized by a severe reading disorder: when the book says “Israel will conquer the world”, they read “the Church will convert the world”.

If the “Jewish question” is about the inordinate power of Israeli elite networks within nations, then the Jewish question is also a Christian question: it is about the built-in vulnerability of Christian societies to this power. Deep down, anyone who grew up a Christian knows that the chosen people will have the last word, because if Yahweh is God, his promise is eternal, as he himself declares, in his inimitable style: “By my own self I swear it; what comes from my mouth is saving justice, it is an irrevocable word” (Isaiah 45:23). One can even speak of Christians’ “learned helplessness” in front of Jewish power, since they are taught in their Scriptures that God has always guided Israel’s merciless slaughter of his enemies—no need for Scofield’s footnotes to know that. There is also learned helplessness in having as ultimate model a man crucified by the Jews: how can the “imitation of Christ” save us from the high priests’ power to lobby and corrupt Pilatus?

The Judeo-Babylonian metaphysical hoax makes God not just ridiculously anthropomorphic, but Judeomorphic. To be fooled by it is to mistake the Creator of the Universe for a topical demon rumbling and spitting fire from a Midianite volcano (Exodus 19), adopted as tutelary deity by a confederation of Semitic nomadic tribes craving for a piece of the Fertile Crescent. It is to internalize an extremely primitive and unspiritual image of the divine that is obstructive of sound metaphysical thinking: the divorce between philosophy (the love of Wisdom) and theology (the science of God) is one manifestation of this cognitive dissonance in Western thought. In the final analysis, the jealous Yahweh, destroyer of all pantheons, is so unconvincing in the garb of the Great universal God that he is fated to be discarded in his turn. Atheism is the end result of biblical monotheism: it is the rejection of the biblical God, mistaken for the true God. “If Yahweh is God, no thanks” has been the simple rationale for atheism in Christendom since the Enlightenment: Voltaire, for example, scorned Christianity by quoting the Old Testament. Yahweh has ruined faith in a divine Creator.

How Christianity reinforced Jewish alienation

Also to consider is the effect that the Christian sanctification of the Jewish Tanakh has had on Jews themselves. It has discouraged Jews from questioning their scriptures and freeing themselves from their psychopathic god. Any Jew who questioned the divine inspiration of the Torah was not only banned from his community, but found no shelter among Christians: this happened to Baruch Spinoza and many others. For two thousand years, Christians have prayed that the Jews would open their heart to Christ, but they have done nothing to free them from Yahweh.

Critics of Jews in pagan Antiquity had a simple logic: although Jews were considered an ethnos, it was commonly admitted that their misanthropy was due to their religion. It was the fault of Moses, who had taught them to scorn the gods and the traditions of others. Hecataeus of Abdera gives in his Aegyptiaca (around 300 BCE) an alternative version of the Exodus: to appease their gods during a plague, the Egyptians expelled from their lands the many tribes of migrants (those known in Acadian as habirus), and some of them settled in Judea under the conduct of their leader Moses who, “because of their expulsion, […] introduced a kind of misanthropic and inhospitable way of life”.[14]Peter Schäfer, Judéophobie: Attitudes à l’égard des Juifs dans le monde antique, Cerf, 2003, pp. 13-15. The Roman historian Tacitus tells a similar story and also attributes to Moses the introduction of “new religious practices, quite opposed to those of all other religions. The Jews regard as profane all that we hold sacred; on the other hand, they permit all that we abhor” (Tacitus, Histories V,3-5). Plutarch reports in his treatise on Isis and Osiris that some Egyptians believed the god of the Jews to be Seth, the murderer of Osiris, exiled by the council of the gods in the desert from where he periodically returns to bring famine and discord. This opinion was so widespread in the Greco-Roman world that many people believed that the Jews worshiped in their Temple the golden head of a donkey, symbol of Seth in the divine bestiary of Egypt. The Roman general Pompey is reported to have been surprised not to find this famous donkey head when he entered the Holy of Holies in 63 BCE.

Everything was simple, then: the Jews were not racially, but religiously degenerate. But the Christian Fathers, who held that only the Jews had worshiped the true God before the coming of Jesus Christ, had to elaborate a sophisticated explanation for the Jews’ asocial behavior, one which is so self-contradicting that its message to the Jews amounts to a “double bind”: on the one hand, the Jews are told that their Yahweh is the true God and that their Bible is holy, but on the other hand, they are criticized for behaviors they have learned precisely from Yahweh in their Bible. They are accused of plotting to rule the world, although it is the very promise that Yahweh made to them: “Yahweh your God will raise you higher than every other nation in the world” (Deuteronomy 28:1). They are blamed for their materialism and their greed, but that also they learned from Yahweh, who dreams only of plunder: “I shall shake all the nations, and the treasures of all the nations will flow in” (Haggai 2:7).

Above all, they are rebuked for their separatism, although this is the very essence of Yahweh’s message to them: “I shall set you apart from all these peoples, for you to be mine” (Leviticus 20:26). Jews who want to break away from Jewish separatism deserve death, according to the lesson of the Bible. The Church Fathers have repeated Yahweh’s endless complaint against his people’s irrepressible tendency to compromise themselves with the gods of the nations by oaths, shared meals or—abomination of the abomination—marriages. But are not these “stiff-necked Jews” who rebelled against the tyrannical yoke of the Levites, precisely those who sought to extricate themselves from the Jewish alienation by assimilating into the surrounding civilization? Were they not doing exactly what we would like them to do today? The contradiction is in many Christian writings. John Chrysostom, for example, writes in his First Homily Against the Jews (II,3):

“Nothing is more miserable than those people who never failed to attack their own salvation. When there was need to observe the Law, they trampled it under foot. Now that the Law has ceased to bind, they obstinately strive to observe it. What could be more pitiable that those who provoke God not only by transgressing the Law but also by keeping it?”

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This amounts to telling the Jews: “Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.” Christians accuse them of having rebelled against Yahweh yesterday, and they accuse them of obeying Yahweh today, under the pretext that Yahweh’s orders no longer stand. How unconvincing to the Jews!

Anti-Yahwism is the only effective criticism of Israel because it is the only fair criticism. It cuts short the accusation of anti-Semitism, since it aims at liberating the Jews from the sociopathic god who has taken control of their destiny—and who is, of course, only the puppet of the Levites. A manifesto of anti-yahwism might begin with this statement by Samuel Roth from his book Jews Must Live:

“Beginning with the Lord God of Israel Himself, it was the successive leaders of Israel who one by one foregathered and guided the tragic career of the Jews—tragic to the Jews and no less tragic to the neighboring nations who have suffered them. […] despite our faults, we would never have done so much damage to the world if it had not been for our genius for evil leadership.”[15]Samuel Roth, Jews Must Live: An Account of the Persecution of the World by Israel on All the Frontiers of Civilization, 1934, (archive.org).

Zionist pioneer Leo Pinsker wrote in his booklet Auto-Emancipation (1882), that the Jews are “the people chosen for universal hatred.” They are indeed, but not because Gentiles are universally affected by a “psychic aberration,” a “variety of demonopathy” known as Judeophobia, as Pinsker believes, but rather because their covenant with Yahweh has programmed them to be hated wherever they go.[16]Leon Pinsker, Auto-Emancipation: An Appeal to His People by a Russian Jew (1882), on www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Zionism/pinsker.html.

It’s time to tell the Jews what Christians have been unable to tell them: You were never chosen by God. You have just been misled by your Levites to take your vindictive tribal god for the universal Father in Heaven. This cognitive short-circuit has caused in your collective psyche a grave narcissistic personality disorder. For our own misfortune, we Gentiles have been fooled by your self-delusion and have fallen, too, under the psychopathic bond of your leaders. But we are now waking up, and as soon as we recover our senses and our dignity, we’ll help you out of it too.

Christianity as controlled opposition

“Inside every Christian is a Jew,” stated Pope Francis. That is the simplest and the deepest truth about Christianity. Most Christians are not aware of this Jew inside them, yet he commands a large part of their worldview. Meditating on this truth can be a mind-opening experience, radiating in a multiplicity of questions. Should we use Sigmund Freud’s concept of “projection” and say that most Christians who hate Jews hate the Jew inside them? Or is this Jew a self-hating Jew, like every Jew according to Theodor Lessing (Jewish Self-Hatred, Berlin, 1930)? Perhaps inside every Christian are two Jews, one hating the other, Moses and Jesus. From whichever side we want to look at it, the fact is that Christians are, by New Testament definition, the spiritual heirs of Yahweh’s promise to Israel. They are new branches grafted onto the trunk of Israel, according to Paul’s metaphor (Romans 11:16-24).

What still needs to be explained is how Paul and his followers succeeded in convincing tens of thousands of Gentiles to become a new synthetic Israel, at a time when the very name of Israel was hated all around the Mediterranean Sea? How is it that the Christian religion, which would convert the Roman Empire to the worship of a Jewish Messiah, was born at the time when the biggest wave of Judeophobia was sweeping across the Empire? To answer that question, let’s examine the context. At the turn of the millennium, during the prosperous reign of Augustus, Jews had gained advantageous situations in many parts of the Empire. They enjoyed freedom of cult and judicial autonomy, and were exempted from the civil formality of emperor worship, from all obligations on the Sabbath, and from military service. Moreover, they were allowed to collect funds and send them to the Jerusalem Temple bureaucracy.[17]Michael Grant, Jews in the Roman World, Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 2011, pp. 58–61.

As Jews abused of their privileges and conspired to increase them, Gentile resentment grew and anti-Jewish riots followed. In the year 38 CE, the Greeks of Alexandria sent a delegation to Rome, whose leader Isidoros complained that the Jews are “trying to stir up the entire world.”[18]Joseph Mélèze Modrzejewski, The Jews of Egypt, From Rameses II to Emperor Hadrian, Princeton University Press, 1995, p. 178. The emperor issued an edict declaring that, if the Jews continued to sow dissent and “to agitate for more privileges than they formerly possessed, […] I will by all means take vengeance on them as fomenters of what is a general plague infecting the whole world.” This edict was followed by another addressed to all the Jewish communities of the empire, asking them not to “behave with contempt towards the gods of other peoples.”[19]Quoted in Michael Grant, Jews in the Roman World, op. cit., pp. 134–135.

Tensions were high in Jerusalem, where the pro-Roman Herodian dynasty faltered. It was at this time that a conspiracy of Pharisees and Sadducees denounced Jesus to the Romans as a seditious would-be king of the Jews, calculating, according to the Fourth Gospel, that “it is to [the Jews’] advantage that one man should die for the people, rather than that the whole nation should perish” (John 11:50). Flavius ​​Josephus mentions several Jewish revolts in the same period, including one during the Passover of 48 or 49 CE, after a Roman soldier assigned to the entrance of the Temple committed the irreparable: “raising his robe, he stooped in an indecent attitude, so as to turn his backside to the Jews, and made a noise in keeping with this posture.”[20]Flavius Josephus, Jewish War, II,224, quoted in Michael Grant, Jews in the Roman World, op. cit., p. 148. In 66 the Jewish War broke out, when the Sadducees defied Roman power by banning from the Temple the daily sacrifices offered in the name and at the expense of the Emperor. After the destruction of the Temple by the general and future emperor Titus in 70, the embers of Jewish messianism continued to hatch for 70 more years, and ignited Palestine for the last time with the revolt of Simon Bar Kochba, which provoked in retaliation the complete destruction of Jerusalem, its conversion into a Roman city renamed Aelia Capitolina, and the banning of Jews from it. By then, enmity against the Jews had reached a climax throughout the Empire.

This is precisely the time when Christian missionaries spread the cult of Christ in all the major urban centers of the Empire, starting with those inhabited by large Jewish communities, such as Antioch, Ephesus and Alexandria. A reasonable explanation for that synchronicity is that Christianity, in its Pauline version, is a fundamentally Judeophobic religion that surfed on the greatest wave of Judeophobia. As the cult of a demi-god victim of the Jews, it satisfied the general perception of Jews as a “race hated by the gods” (Tacitus, Histories V.3). But that explanation fails to account for the fact that the triumphant Judeophobic religion is not a pagan religion, but the fundamentally Jewish cult of a Jewish Messiah allegedly fulfilling Jewish prophecies. What we have here is a bizarre case of Hegelian dialectic, one in which the “antithesis” is controlled by the “thesis” and absorbed into it.

Through Christianity, Roman Judeophobia became Judaized. The Gospel narrative makes the Jews the plotters against the Son of God, but this Son of God is a Jew, and soon the “Mother of God”—as Isis, Ishtar or Artemis were called—would be turned into a Jewess too. Most importantly, Judeophobic Christians will adopt the Tanakh and the bizarre Jewish paradigm of the “jealous god” with his “chosen people”. From that point of view, it is as if Christ nailed on the Cross had been used as a bait to pull anti-Jewish Gentiles, by the line of the Old Testament, into worshipping Jewishness.

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This process fits the concept of Jewish controlled opposition conceptualized by Gilad Atzmon in his book Being in Time and in a recent video. Whenever Jewish power becomes threatened by the Gentiles’ resentment against it, it produces “a satellite Jewish dissent” designed to control and stir Gentile opposition. This Jewish dissent monopolizes the protest and keeps non-Jewish dissenters in line. According to a parable proposed by Atzmon, the purpose is to make sure that any Jewish problem suffered by the Gentiles is treated by Jewish doctors, whose fundamental interest is that the problem is not solved. By claiming to have the solution to the problem, dissident Jews deceive Gentiles on the nature of the problem, and ultimately aggravate the problem.

As Atzmon sees it, the process does not necessarily result from a secret agreement between Jewish power and Jewish dissent. The Jewish opposition intellectuals

“are not necessarily consciously deceiving us; indeed, they may well be doing their best, within the context of a limited tribal mindset. The truth is, they cannot think out of the box, they cannot climb over the ghetto walls that enclose their own tribal beings.”[21]Gilad Atzmon, Being in Time: A Post-Political Manifesto, Skyscraper, 2017, p. 208.

We can see this tribal mindset as a collective instinct of conservation that is part of the essence of Jewishness. Ideological quarrels between Jews are sincere, but they remain quarrels between Jews, who tacitly agree to speak louder than Gentiles and exclude from the discussion any radical criticism of Jewishness.

In the light of Atzmon’s analysis, it is conceivable that Christianity’s primary function was to absorb Greco-Roman Judeophobia into a movement that would ultimately reinforce the symbolic status of the Jews, by spreading the “chosen people” propaganda myth fabricated five centuries earlier. Ezra had convinced the Persians that the Jews worshipped the God of Heaven like them; the Church went on convincing the Romans that, before Jesus, the Jews had been the only people worshipping the true God and loved by Him. Such creed from the Gentiles is worth a thousand Balfour declarations, in the march toward world domination by way of deception. In the Christian narrative that says, “God chose the Jewish people, but then rejected them,” the benefit from the first part is much higher than the cost of the second, which hardly makes sense anyway.

If the Italian rabbi Elijah Benamozegh is right in saying that “The constitution of a universal religion is the ultimate goal of Judaism,” then Christianity is a great step toward that glorious future: “In Heaven, one God of all men, and on earth a single family of peoples, among whom Israel is the eldest, responsible for the priestly function of teaching and the administration of the true religion of humanity.”[22]Élie Benamozegh, Israël et l’humanité (1914), Albin Michel, 1980, pp. 28–29. Christianity has prepared the way for the next stage: the cult of the crucified Jew is now being superseded by the cult of the exterminated Jews.

Christianity without the Old Testament?

In the second century of our era, Marcion of Sinope had asserted the incompatibility of the Hebrew Bible and the Gospel: Yahweh cannot be the Father of Christ, he said, because everything opposes them. The covenants of Moses and Christ are so contrary in their terms that they must have been sealed with deities totally alien to each other. According to the German specialist Adolf von Harnack, it was Marcion who founded the first structured church, established the first Christian canon, to which he first gave the name of evangelion. In the early 3rd century, his doctrine “has invaded the whole earth,” complained Tertullian, who was from the Semitic city of Carthage, as was Augustine and other Latin Fathers who emphasized the Jewish roots of Christianity.[23]Adolf von Harnack, Marcion, l’évangile du Dieu étranger. Contribution à l’histoire de la fondation de l’Église catholique, Cerf, 2005 (translation from the German second edition of 1924). Had Marcionism prevailed, Christianity would have broken with Judaism, which might have withered in a few centuries.[24]If we follow the logic of Peter Schäfer, The Jewish Jesus: How Judaism and Christianity Shaped Each Other, Princeton UP, 2012. Islam would never have happened. On the other hand, perhaps Christianity itself would not have prevailed, and would be remembered today as just another transient otherworldly oriental religion, along with its Manichean cousin.

Can we really separate the New Testament from the Old anyway? We are told that Marcion’s canon consisted of Paul’s letters and a short version of Luke, but it is hard to imagine how he could have completely sanitized the later from its 68 references and allusions to the Old Testament. Admittedly, the original Gospels contained less Old Testament items than it does today: for example, Mark’s only apocalyptic passage (in chapter 13), a condensation of apocalyptic imagery from the books of Daniel, Isaiah, and Ezekiel, was a secondary addition. Many scholars even consider all of Jesus’s apocalyptic prophecies in Matthew and Luke as foreign to Jesus’s original message, and some regard the bulk of the Book of Revelation (from 4:1 to 22:15), which refers neither to Jesus nor to any identifiable Christian theme, as a Jewish book framed between a Christian prologue and epilogue.[25]See for example James Charlesworth, Jesus within Judaism, SPCK, 1989.

Alternate history is fun, but quite pointless. Christianity came to us with the Old Testament and a heavily Judaized New Testament. The fruit came with the worm, whose name is Yahweh. The question is: what can we expect from Christianity today? From the viewpoint I have adopted here, it seems that Christianity cannot be the solution to the problem it has created. Yet, like many unz.com readers, I rejoice at the rebirth of the Russian Church, and its role in fostering a healthy public morality and reviving national dignity. In fact, I can even imagine that the Catholic Church could resurrect from its ashes if only it humbly came back to its Orthodox mother whom it has conspired to destroy throughout the Middle Ages. Orthodox Christianity is the closest to the original, and by far the least Judaized. Persecuted during seventy years of communism, it is certainly not much infiltrated by crypto-Jews, at the moment. But can it overcome the inherent problem that I have highlighted here? Can it ever challenge the Jews’ megalomaniac and narcissistic claim of their metaphysical exceptionality? A radically critical approach of the Old Testament is, I believe, an indispensable component of Gentiles’ mental emancipation and recovery of their natural defense mechanism against the Yahweh-Zion matrix. Theologians should, at the very least, be allowed to say that Yahweh is a grossly distorted Judeomorphic image of God. Islam has an advantage here, since Muslims have always admitted that the Jewish Tanakh is fraudulent. Not that I see Islam as a solution, far from it, but a consensus between Muslims and Orthodox Christians on the problematic nature of the Hebrew Scriptures could be a first step toward emancipation.

It is important also not to overrate the influence of these questions on popular piety. The average Christian’s faith would not be much disturbed if the Old Testament would cease to be read in Church, or even if it would be openly criticized. It is also important not to confuse Christendom with Christianity: Notre-Dame was not built by bishops, priests or saints, but by the people of Paris. The same can be said of every cathedral or village church. Johan Sebastian Bach was not a priest (and certainly never composed under the inspiration of the Old Testament), and neither were any of the great geniuses who built our civilization.

Finally, I have zoomed here on a problematic aspect of Christianity, but other viewpoints are possible. I have developed the antithesis to the common thesis that Christianity is anti-Jewish, but there is truth also in the thesis. Christianity is certainly not entirely Jewish: it is also profoundly pagan. Jesus’ legend is a Greek heroic myth. The cults of the Virgin Mary and of the saints are pagan traditions superficially Christianized, with no roots in the Old or New Testament. To acknowledge, accept and celebrate those pagan roots, could be a welcome development within Christianity, as a counterweight to the Old Testament burden.

But I know what you’re thinking: “Who cares what a Marcionite has to say?”

Laurent Guyénot, PhD in Medieval Studies, is the author of From Yahweh to Zion: Jealous God, Chosen People, Promised Land … Clash of Civilizations, 2018, and JFK-9/11: 50 years of Deep State, Progressive Press, 2014.

Notes

[1] Adrien Bressolles, “La question juive au temps de Louis le Pieux,” in Revue d’histoire de l’Église de France, tome 28, n°113, 1942. pp. 51-64, on https://www.persee.fr

[2] Heinrich Graetz, History of the Jews, Jewish Publication Society of America, 1891 (archive.org), vol. III, ch. VI, p. 162.

[3] John Romanides, Franks, Romans, Feudalism, and Doctrine: An Interplay Between Theology and Society, Holy Cross Orthodox Press, 1981, on www.romanity.org/htm/rom.03.en.franks_romans_feudalism_and_doctrine.01.htm

[4] Read Gunnar Heinsohn, “The Restauration of Ancient History,” on www.mikamar.biz/symposium/heinsohn.txt et John Crowe, “The Revision of Ancient History – A Perspective,” on www.sis-group.org.uk/ancient.htm

[5] Robert A. Markys, The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews: Jesuits of Jewish Ancestry and Purity-of-Blood Laws in the Early Society of Jesus, Brill, 2009, free download on http://www.oapen.org/search?identifier=627427

[6] Lucien Wolf, Report on the “Marranos” or Crypto-Jews of Portugal, Anglo-Jewish Association, 1926.

[7] Vincent Schmid, “Calvin et les Juifs : Prémices du dialogue judéo-chrétien chez Jean Calvin,” 2008, on www.racinesetsources.ch.

[8] Cecil Roth, A History of the Jews in England (1941), Clarendon Press, 1964, p. 148.

[9] Isaac Disraeli, Commentaries on the Life and Reign of Charles the First, King of England, 2 vols., 1851, quoted in Archibald Maule Ramsay, The Nameless War, 1952 (archive.org).

[10] Hilaire Belloc, The Jews, Constable & Co., 1922 (archive.org), p. 223.

[11] Joseph Canfield, The Incredible Scofield and His Book, Ross House Books, 2004, pp. 219–220.

[12] Jill Duchess of Hamilton, God, Guns and Israel: Britain, The First World War And The Jews in the Holy City, The History Press, 2009 , kindle, e. 414-417.

[13] Michael Evans, The American Prophecies, Terrorism and Mid-East Conflict Reveal a Nation’s Destiny, Hodder & Stoughton, 2005, quoted in Christopher Bollyn, Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World, C. Bollyn, 2012, p. 71.

[14] Peter Schäfer, Judéophobie: Attitudes à l’égard des Juifs dans le monde antique, Cerf, 2003, pp. 13-15.

[15] Samuel Roth, Jews Must Live: An Account of the Persecution of the World by Israel on All the Frontiers of Civilization, 1934, (archive.org).

[16] Leon Pinsker, Auto-Emancipation: An Appeal to His People by a Russian Jew (1882), on www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Zionism/pinsker.html.

[17] Michael Grant, Jews in the Roman World, Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 2011, pp. 58–61.

[18] Joseph Mélèze Modrzejewski, The Jews of Egypt, From Rameses II to Emperor Hadrian, Princeton University Press, 1995, p. 178.

[19] Quoted in Michael Grant, Jews in the Roman World, op. cit., pp. 134–135.

[20] Flavius Josephus, Jewish War, II,224, quoted in Michael Grant, Jews in the Roman World, op. cit., p. 148.

[21] Gilad Atzmon, Being in Time: A Post-Political Manifesto, Skyscraper, 2017, p. 208.

[22] Élie Benamozegh, Israël et l’humanité (1914), Albin Michel, 1980, pp. 28–29.

[23] Adolf von Harnack, Marcion, l’évangile du Dieu étranger. Contribution à l’histoire de la fondation de l’Église catholique, Cerf, 2005 (translation from the German second edition of 1924).

[24] If we follow the logic of Peter Schäfer, The Jewish Jesus: How Judaism and Christianity Shaped Each Other, Princeton UP, 2012.

[25] See for example James Charlesworth, Jesus within Judaism, SPCK, 1989.

 
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  1. mijj says:

    if it wasn’t for the old Testament, how would devout Christians learn to embrace righteous hatred?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @in the middle
  2. wayfarer says:

    “Jewi$h $upremacy Exposed.”

  3. Fox says:

    Interestingly, a book that seems to argue much along the same line as Gyenot’s came recently into my hands: Theodor Fritsch, Der Falsche Gott; Beweis-Material gegen Jahwe (Leipzig, 1921). The inconsistencies and incompatibilities of Judaic doctrine and what Christians have read into the Bible, or didn’t take note of are quite remarkable. In particular the newest Papal idea of “Jews as our older brothers in faith” (quoting from memory) seems a really long stretch in the light of what Jews believe, teach as their own doctrine and rules and what (Catholics at least) are (were?) taught to believe.
    The image of the Holy Virgin in Catholicism as opposed to that in Judaism highlights this weird papal belief system in a striking manner, and Jesus is a traitor for them. Where is here the much talked about tolerance and respect, even as a minimum of “compatibility”?

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    , @joeshittheragman
  4. “Jesus” is Greek for “Joshua.” Maybe that has something to do with it. Yeshua bar Yosef to be precise.

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    , @Moi
  5. Baxter says:

    Judaism, in its various sects, has never made any sense to me. I guess I’m fortunate to have grown up Catholics in the 80s and 90s. I don’t remember any positive information regarding Jews. They are the people left behind. Their ways are very different, dare I say incompatible. They rejected Jesus and prefer to live by their own rules.
    I’ve never cared for the phrase ‘Judeo-Christian.’ Where did it originate? It’s very misleading.

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    , @anon
  6. X says:

    I once knew a jewish girl. But it was only long after I stopped talking to her that I discovered she was jewish. Anyway, she once made a remark that I never forgot. She said that Christians always have such bad luck. And the reason it stuck with me is because I have indeed observed Christians to have bad luck on many occasions. Now I’m not going to pretend this is anything other than just my own observation, but the superstitious part of me says that Christians have bad luck precisely because they directly worship a deity who hates them. It is extremely idiotic for a gentile to pray to Yahweh. It’d be like a sheep following a wolf around.

  7. Rabbi Adolph Moses in collaboration with Rabbi H.G. Enlow explained clearly in “Yahvism and Other Discourses” that, “Among the innumerable misfortunes which have befallen… the most fatal in its consequences is the name Judaism… neither in biblical nor post-biblical, neither in Talmudic nor in much later times, is the term Judaism ever heard…”

    And what was it called before?

    Rabbi Louis Finkelstein stated in his book “The Pharisees, The Sociological Background of Their Faith” that, “Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes in name . . . the spirit of the ancient Pharisees survives, unaltered . . . From Palestine to Babylonia; from Babylonia to North Africa, Italy, Spain, France and Germany; from these to Poland, Russia, and eastern Europe generally, ancient Pharisaism has wandered . . . demonstrates the enduring importance which attaches to Pharisaism as a religious movement . . .”

    Judaism is actually Pharisaism, and therefore a misnomer since it is neither the doctrine of Judah nor the doctrine that Christ practiced, hence not an Abrahamic faith.

    “Pharisaism shaped the character of Judaism and the life and thought of the Jew for all the future,” explains the Jewish Encyclopedia.

    In fact, Pharisaism is the doctrine of the Pharisees of old, an evil doctrine they brought back from their Babylonian captivity. It does not follow the truth of the Bible, neither of the Old Testament nor of the New. Its central tenets are found in a book called the Talmud (the real Satanic Verses), a book full of worldly traditions, lies, and superstitions.

    “The Babylonian Talmud is based on the mystical religious practices of the Babylonians which were assimilated by the Judahite Rabbis during their Babylonian captivity around 600 B.C.,” wrote Edward Hendrie in Solving the Mystery of Babylon the Great. “The Rabbis then used these occult traditions in place of the word of God.”

    And that is why Jesus was constantly rebuking the Pharisees.

    …….
    In effect, those Judahite Hebrews who followed the Pharisees were the seed of the Devil, a truth the Apostle John was trying to convey in Revelation by calling them “Babylon.”

    “The name written on her forehead was a mystery: Babylon the great, the mother of prostitutes, and of the abominations of the earth.” Revelation 17:5

    Proselytes of Pharisaism or Rabbinists in 15th/16th Century Spain and Portugal were called Marranos, meaning pigs or dirty. Many of them converted to Christianity and were labeled Conversos. However, some modern Jewish historians tried to sanitize Marranos by inferring that said label was only used when adherents of Pharisaism or Rabbinists converted to Christianity. However, the facts say otherwise.

    Most historians – even hardcore Jewish ones like Benzion Netanyahu (Yes, Bibi’s dad) – called those who converted Conversos, not Marranos. Brian Chalmers in his review of Netanyahu’s book wrote: “(Netanyahu) marshals evidence and arguments in an effort to prove that the ‘New Christians’ were sincere adherents of Christianity, and even ‘ardent assimilationists’ who were eager to marry into Christian families and otherwise melt into Spanish society…. the Conversos were actually sincere Christians.”

    here’s a little more of someone’s opinion:
    https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-the-ashkenazi-jews-conquered-the-west/

    And finally Ashkenazis are not Jews…they are for the most part 40 to 60% European and they have basically destroyed almost every civilization they have come into contact with and will if not stopped destroy mankind.

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  8. anon[237] • Disclaimer says:

    bleh, some of these articles on Unz let me realize how uneducated I is

  9. You’ve nailed it except Orthodox Christianity is not the solution. What little value it has is not worth the eternal damnation of the human race for keeping Christianity alive. The best thing that can happen is for the Abrahamic religions to enter the realm of mythology. It is where they belong. Yahweh belongs with Zeus in complete disbelief. Christianity will be forever tethered to a false and evil god. The belief in a universal god may be cemented in and that is considered “progress,” but Yahweh is evil and psychopathic, and the Bible is a dated book that cannot be modernized. It is a fossil of an ancient civilization and it should be appreciated within that context. We have outgrown it. It is why people are turning away from religion. Yahweh isn’t real. The world was not created in 7 days. We no longer believe mass genocide is moral and ethnic supremacy is now considered evil. It is time for a religion based on today’s knowledge and today’s morality to come into being.

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  10. Vojkan says:

    “By my own self I swear it; what comes from my mouth is saving justice, it is an irrevocable word” (Isaiah 45:23)

    That’s very ungodly speaking imho. God doesn’t swear and God doesn’t emphasise himself. I know of another character in the Bible who does though.

    With regards to Western European Christianity, I watched a documentary about Charlemagne on Viasat History the other day, and made myself the reflection how his all conquering endevaour felt so Old Testament and had little to do with Christ, even though it was officially undertaken to spread Christ’s glory. I came to France at the age of seven and for all intents and purposes, in the thirty-six years in all I spent there, I became French, except for one thing. I have returned to Serbia for family reasons a few years ago, there are responsibilities one doesn’t want but nevertheless must assume, but I still cook French, think French, start my day by browsing through Boulevar Voltaire’s newsletter (this is not an endorsement – I just can’t stand the French MSM), read the news on various other sites on what is happening in France before reading the news on what is happening in Serbia, yet there is one aspect of France that I never integrated, Roman Catholicism and its worship of the Old Testament.
    As much as all my other traits have become Frenchified, there is one I have kept, my Orthodoxy, because of the rejection the Old Testament has always inspired me, because the Orthodox think as Berdaev without needing to read Berdaev. Whatever one thinks of Christ’s ethnicity, history, motivations, the message of the Gospels is clear and is incompatible with the message of the Torah. To worship Yahweh and Jesus at the same time requires a degree of cognitive dissonance that is beyond mystique.
    I wholeheartedly agree, the spiritual freeing of the Christian world cannot happen before it unchains itself from the Old Testament. Until then, Christianity will remain fair game for atheists, judaists, islamists, moral relativists and all the other various ‘-ists’ out there.

  11. anon[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @mijj

    Hatred of their own blood and soil is “righteous hatred” to a Christian.

    • “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters–yes, even their own life–such a person cannot be my disciple.” -Luke 14:26

    • “And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.” -Matthew 19:29

    Notice how Christians sell-out and forsake their own blood and soil for a “hundredfold” payola from the kingjew. Of course, Jews being the shysters they are, won’t pay until after death. Bernie Madoff wasn’t half the scammer compared to the storytellers of the Jew Testament.

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  12. anon[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fox

    The newest Papal idea of “Jews as our older brothers in faith?”

    It’s not new, and not necessarily papist either; fact is, it’s written into the Jew Testament. A sampling:

    • So now you Goyim are no longer strangers and foreigners; you are Citizens along with all of Jewgod’s holy Jewpeople. -Ephesians 2:19
    • “He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.’” Acts 3:25
    • “The Jew first.” Romans 1:16
    • “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.” Romans 15:27
    • “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.” John 4:22
    • “Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.” 1 Corinthians 5:7

  13. Seraphim says:

    These comments are very interesting, but there is nothing new, as the author acknowledges by citing St. John Chrysostom and alluding obliquely to the ‘Judeophobia’ of the ‘Pauline version’ which was the first to denounce the ‘Judaizers’.
    But what he is talking here about is a ‘Christianity’ without the Christ (‘Jesus’ “legend” is a Greek heroic myth’!) and a not so subtle attack on Christianity itself.
    The retention of the OT in the Church was necessary because it prophesied the Incarnation, Passion and Resurrection of the Christ, the Son of God (which is the original message of Jesus), and is a witnness of the constant transgressions and stubbornness with which the Jews rejected the prophecies (killing the prophets and twisting their prophecies as promises made to them as a ‘nation’ who should materially dominate the world).
    It is true that the Franks bear a huge responsibility in the Judaization of the Church and that France is one of the most Judaized country in the world. But I think that it would have been better if the author would have read more Pascal* than Alain de Benoist or Michel Onfrey.

    *”Sincerity of the Jews.—They preserve lovingly and carefully the book in which Moses declares that they have been all their life ungrateful to God, and that he knows they will be still more so after his death; but that he calls heaven and earth to witness against them, and that he has [taught] them enough.
    He declares that God, being angry with them, shall at last scatter them among all the nations of the earth; that as they have offended Him by worshipping gods who were not their God, so He will provoke them by calling a people who are not His people; that He desires that all His words be preserved for ever, and that His book be placed in the Ark of the Covenant to serve for ever as a witness against them.
    Isaiah says the same thing, xxx”.
    (Pensées, 631)

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    , @Anon
  14. schrub says:

    I have a small question.

    Isn’t the dating terminology that this author repeatedly uses in this article , BCE (before the common era) and CE (the common era), of modern Jewish origin and deliberately designed to neutralize and replace the traditional terminology that Jews have traditionally found offensive: BC (before Christ) and AD (after death) ?

    It might seem like a small complaint but I might take this author a bit more seriously if he was to revert to the traditional dating terminology. His continued use of of politically correct, Jewish derived terms like BCE and CE makes me more than a little uneasy, especially when used by a writer who claims to be a New Testament traditionalist.

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    , @Alden
    , @Patricus
  15. So many words, so much nonsense.

    Anyone who can read Romans 11 and suggest that Christianity is “controlled opposition” is a moron.

    Have you even ever heard of the disputation of Paris, Laurent? Or the expulsion of the Jews from Catholic Spain? Or any bit of Catholic Or literally anything E. Michael Jones ever said?

    And then you quote Pope Francis. Citing Pope Francis as an expert on anything related to Catholicism is probably the funniest example of the stupidity and shallowness of this piece.

    If you think Pope Francis is anything other than a Jewish-backed, liberal-backed subversion agent designed to suppress real Catholicism, then you are a damned fool.

    The Jews hate Catholicism more than anything else in the whole world.

    • Agree: Kent Nationalist, Alden
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anon
  16. @Fox

    Correct sir. Theodor Fritsch should be required reading for Americans and next to him, Alfred Rosenberg. Fritsch lays out for the common man what the Jews are and how they think and Rosenberg gives the scholarly concept of the “Christian church” and how it’s just a Judaized appendage of world Jewry.

  17. The claim that Christianity is more favourable to Jews than paganism is just on its face absurd, since Christian governments immediately imposed restrictions on Jews, their activities and their occupation of important positions which the Hellenistic or Roman empires never did.

    Most of the article simply makes no sense because it asserts over and over that Christianity must be pro-Jewish without actually providing reasons for this claim. Somehow the fact that Christians persecuted Jews more is taken to be evidence for Christian judeophilia.

    Each of these expulsions has been a reaction to a situation unknown in pre-Christian Antiquity: Jewish communities gaining inordinate economic power, under the protection of a royal administration (Jews served as the kings’ tax collectors and moneylenders, and were particularly indispensable in times of war), until this economic power, yielding political power, reaches a point of saturation, causes pogroms and forces the king into taking measures.

    Jews acquired sufficient power in Egypt to provoke conflict with the Greeks, who criticised the emperors as being too pro-Jewish. There were several violent conflicts with the Greeks. A fragment found in Egypt warns the Egyptian peasant not to borrow money from Jews The greatest equestrian post in the empire, prefect of Egypt, was occupied by a Jew.

    https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/alexandrian-martyrs-acts
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius_Julius_Alexander

    It’s obvious to any unbiased observer that the Romans tolerated Jews more when they were pagans than when they were Christians. Only someone as contorted by a hatred of Christ as the author could propose that greater restrictions against Jews by Christian rulers show that they were more tolerant of Jews.

    For two thousand years, Christianity has taught Gentiles to consent to the delusional claim of the Jews to divine election: are they not the first and only ethnic group whom the God of the universe has addressed personally, the people whom He has loved to the point of exterminating its enemies? It matters not that Christians tell the Jews that they have lost the election because they rejected Christ: the main price is theirs. To accept the biblical notion of “chosen people”, whatever the reservations, is to accept the metaphysical superiority of the Jews

    This is simply a lie. The Bible says that the Church, including all Christians, is God’s chosen people. See the parable of the Vineyard or 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 or John 7. This is still the official doctrine of the Catholic Church.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  18. onebornfree says: • Website

    “The lure of Religion”:

    “Down through history, organized religion has tried to take over the Paranormal as its own property. Allowing this and going along with it, humanity, even in all its goodness, has made a grievous mistake. It has paid a terrible price. Transferring the Paranormal from the individual to an organization brings on a negative result, a blanketing tragedy.

    As far as I can tell, the first commandment of every religion is aimed at all other religions: OUR GOD IS REAL. YOURS IS FALSE.

    The corollary, in some cases, is: IN ORDER TO PROVE THIS, WE WILL WIPE YOU OUT IF NECESSARY.

    George Carlin: “But He [God] loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money!”

    The second commandment of religions—directed toward their own flocks—THINK WHAT WE TELL YOU TO THINK, BELIEVE WHAT WE TELL YOU TO BELIEVE. You, an immortal soul, are incapable of determining these matters on your own. You must refer to religious leaders. You must quote them.

    The large majority of eight billion souls on planet Earth believe they have two choices. Accept what a religion tells them, or conclude there is nothing spiritual about life; it is merely physical substance. They can’t conceive of other possibilities. This points to an astonishing lack of imagination.

    Many scientists believe scientific lies are better than lies based on religious superstition.

    Most religion is based on the premise: CONTROL OF POPULATIONS IS NECESSARY. THEREFORE, IMPOSED DOCTRINE IS NECESSARY. Control is better than no control…………”:

    https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2019/05/07/the-lure-of-religion/

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Adam Smith
  19. If I understood and still remember what I read, Spinoza wasn’t really banned from the Jewish community. He wanted to leave and he left the Jewish community because it was not the community to which he wanted to belong. That’s the reason why he was never completely rehabilitated by Jews until today: he didn’t care about being a Jew. He wrote maybe the first critical book about the Old Testament. I have a French translation of it (by Ch. Appuhn) and just opened by chance a page (103) where he says: “…..Christ whose teachings are universal; because of that Christ promises a spiritual reward and not a material reward like Moses. Christ has been sent not to preserve the State and create laws, but to teach the only universal law” (my attemp of translation from the French). Spinoza speaks further of the (Jewish) Law as something that coerces (contraindre) the Jews themselves. This seems to be the reason why he felt he had to leave the Jewish community. He was supported by Christian friends.

    Today I read another text that makes a remark that is also relevant. Marc Ellis writes: “Over the last days I have heard from a few ordained rabbis in deep crisis. They are experiencing a crisis of faith but it’s not about God. Though shocking to some, my experience is that many rabbis do not believe in God, at least in the way that is usually assumed. Rather, rabbis have a commitment to the Jewish people, Jewish history and a Jewish future. They are trained to be Jewish leaders.” Maybe while Christians still take the Old Testament seriously, Jews aren’t even religious anymore (or never really were). But while not being religious and not being Christians it still could be the case that some Jews are influenced by non-Jewish aspects and values of Christianity.

    Guyenot proposes a de-Jewification of Christianity while some Jews seem to be influenced by Christianity and the values of Christian societies where they live. There are institutional reasons against any changes from both sides, but if such changes happened, maybe both religions and communities could find a common ground.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @ababush
    , @Adrian
  20. Anon[136] • Disclaimer says:

    “if it wasn’t for the old Testament, how would devout Christians learn to embrace righteous hatred?”

    Get rid of it. Two birds, one stone. No more Israel worship, no more unseemly hatreds. Imagine memorizing outdated laws from the 1820s. Why exactly are Christians reading from a religious text that isn’t theirs anyway and was later invalidated by another book?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  21. Anon012 says:

    Simone Weil, a Jew who repudiated the Old Testament and embraced Catholicism, is an interesting case in point on several of the issues brought up in this article. Her spiritual evolution as depicted in her brilliantly written journals is worth a read.

    • Agree: utu
  22. Seraphim says:

    The fact is that Notre-Dame was built by bishops and kings. The Bishop of Paris, Maurice de Sully, inspired by the rebuilding in the innovative Gothic style of the Basilica of Saint-Denis (the burial place of the Kings of France) by the Abbot Suger, decided to create a cathedral dedicated to the Virgin Mary that would be the wonder of Christendom and of the capital of the Capetian Kings who generously financed the project. The first stone was laid in June 1163 by Pope Alexander III.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  23. Che Guava says:

    Don’t worry Laurent, I am largely with you on Marcion re. his basic point.

    You likely know that some theologians have ascribed the relevamt letters of St. Paul to Marcion, and that reconstructions of the gospel and several of the Pauline letters in Marcion’s collection (by learned theologians, and not recent, based on Anti-Marcion, etc.) are available on-line. His canon was certainly the first.

    Inclusion of Revelations or the Apocalypse of St. John, as I also would expect you know, was very late in development of the N.T. canon, and subject to much controversy at the time.

    Thank you for a very interesting article, several points I did not know of, interpretations that had not occurred to me, and points of curiosity (e.g., did Irenaeus and Origen make a big thing of the OT? AFAIR, the canons of both were only NT, and did not include Rev.) .

  24. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    > the Son of God (which is the original message of Jesus)

    The fictional character Jesus never once said he was the Son of God; however, he suggested we all are Gods!

    Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are Gods? John 10:34 (referring to: I have said, Ye are Gods; and all of you are children of the most High. Psalm 82:6)

    Now, I’m more inclined to believe what my wife and girlfriend holler, over some Jewish Rabbi’s opinion, but maybe he was onto something. 🙂

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Seraphim
    , @Anon
  25. Beb says:

    Jesus was a Jew. His interpretation of the Torah and Mosaic law was considered radical at the time, as he focused on a simple message of love, but we are left with the fact that he was a devout Jew.

  26. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon012

    With 695 direct quotes, and 4,105 references to the Old Jewish Torah, Christians can’t reject the Old without repudiating the whole New Testament too.

    How many times do the writers of the New Testament quote the Old Testament? An index in the Jewish New Testament catalogs 695 separate quotations from the books of the Old Testament in the New (Jewish New Testament Publications, Jerusalem, 1989). There are many other passages where the Old Testament is referred to , as in cases where an Old Testament figure is mentioned, but no specific scripture is quoted. Depending on which scholar’s work you examine, the number of quotations and references in the New Testament to the Old may be as high as 4,105.

    The Expositor’s Bible Commentary
    Zondervan, Grand Rapids, 1979, Vol. I, p. 617

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  27. Isidora says:

    Why do you suppose Jesus was repeatedly astonished at the ignorance of the rabbis, asking them “Have you not even read … ?” The infiltration of Talamudic post-Babylon thinking had already converted the Hebrews’ ancient religion into the tribal self-worship we see in Judaism today. Abandonment of the Old Testament is not the answer. Purging Talmudic/Roman Catholic/Protestant misunderstanding is the answer.

    The key to the Hebrews’ actual chosen-ness is the Virgin Mary. The Hebrew nation was chosen to bring her into the world. Period. Now their responsibility is the same as everyone else–to recognize Jesus Christ as humanity’s Savior. This is the root of knowledge that Western ‘Christianity’ lost through it’s acceptance of Jewish infiltrators. The Roman church turns her into a competing goddess, while the Protestants toss her aside as just a woman who happened to be coming along. It is the eastern Orthodox Church which has retained the right knowledge.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @c matt
    , @ababush
  28. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @schrub

    How does V.E. strike you?

    In the 17th century the term “vulgar era” first appears as a replacement for Anno Domini in the writings of the German astronomer and mathematician Johannes Kepler (1571-1630 CE).

    The Origin and History of the BCE/CE Dating System
    https://www.ancient.eu/article/1041/the-origin-and-history-of-the-bcece-dating-system/

    • Replies: @anon
  29. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Isidora

    Isidora: “The Hebrew nation was chosen…”

    The Chosenites! You Jew-worshipers just keep returning to Hebrew Chosenism like a dog eating its own vomit.

    • Agree: Druid
  30. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    * correction: Jesus never once said he was God.

  31. anon[250] • Disclaimer says:

    ” the most important “revelation” of modern biblical scholarship, one that has the potential to free the Western world from a two-thousand-year-old psychopathic bond: the jealous Yahweh was originally just the national god of Israel, repackaged into “the God of Heaven and Earth” during the Babylonian Exile, as part of a public relations campaign aimed at Persians, then Greeks and ultimately Romans. The resulting biblical notion that the universal Creator became Israel’s national god at the time of Moses, is thus exposed as a fictitious inversion of the historical process: in reality, it is the national god of Israel who, so to speak, impersonated the universal Creator at the time of Ezra—while remaining intensely ethnocentric.”

    Indeed. The great New Thought mystic Neville (1905-67) learned from his Ethiopian rabbi-guru, Abdullah, that “all the bibles are psychological documents” and that we project them out as historical accounts of other people in order to avoid work on ourselves. Just as we mistakenly think – or have been taught – that the world around us “just is,” rather than being “our own imagination out-pictured,” so we think the bibles are stories about people who lived a long time ago, over there.

    As I wrote elsewhere just a few days ago:

    ” In recent years, this view has gradually become respectable, and even mainstream; see Thomas Romer, The Invention of God (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 2016). Needless to say, this also knocks the props out from under Zionism, Christian and Jewish: “Of course, not everything in the historical books is pure invention: ancient materials were used, but the main narrative that aggregates them is built on a post-exilic ideological construct. When Ben-Gurion declared before the Knesset three days after invading the Sinai in 1956, that what was at stake was ‘the restoration of the kingdom of David and Solomon,’ and when Israeli leaders continue to dream of a ‘Greater Israel’ of biblical proportions, they are simply perpetuating a two-thousand-year-old deception—self-deception perhaps, but deception all the same.” Laurent Guyenot, “Zionism, Crypto-Judaism, and the Biblical Hoax.”

    http://www.counter-currents.com/2019/05/a-word-from-the-wise-guy-part-one

  32. Oh my God!
    The art of story telling. The first art of humanity. Long before any art of humanity. Long before written word, painting, music, theater, poetry, there were pilgrims. They traveled the world, and they did get food and lodgings for telling stories. The commercial base is base of everything.
    At least Ezop was sincere. he did admit that he only did write down stories circulating among people.
    The scribes who did write down stories were never ever originators of the stories.
    Most of the stories in old testament were originated in Babylon. So old testament stories are copy of the copy of the copy.
    And here is something that cannot be explained. If God created everything and all people why he would prefer one people over others.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  33. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @UncommonGround

    Spinoza was a pantheist. As is the USA, somewhat surreptitiously but nonetheless officially.

    • “Deus, sive Natura” (God, or Nature) —Spinoza
    • “Nature’s God” —Declaration of Independence

    Further references:

    [MORE]

    “The Declaration of Independence, that extraordinary document first drafted by Thomas Jefferson, softly echoes Spinoza. John Locke, Spinoza’s contemporary — both were born in 1632 — is a more obvious influence on Jefferson than Spinoza was. But Locke had himself been influenced by Spinoza’s ideas…Locke’s library not only included all of Spinoza’s important works…Spinoza’s collected works were also in Jefferson’s library, so Spinoza’s impact may not just have been by way of Locke.”
    NYT: Reasonable Doubt

    Matthew Stewart (2014) Nature’s God: The Heretical Origins of the American Republic. W.W. Norton & Co.

    David Voelker (1993) Who is Nature’s God? The Hanover Historical Review

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  34. How could anyone hate the–

    Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L Jehovah created the goyim in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The goyim is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.

    Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a goyim, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a goyim he may keep.

    Baba Mezia 114b The goyim are not humans. They are beasts.

    Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies to circumvent a goyim.

    Abodah Zarah 36b. Goyim girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

    Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: “Thank you God for not making me a goyim, a woman or a slave.”

    Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a goyim the wages owed him for work.

    Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a goyim it does not have to be returned.

    Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Goyim prefer sex with cows.

    Libbre David 37 To communicate anything to a goyim about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.

    • Replies: @anon
  35. The Jewish god Yahweh was Canaanite in origin and subordinate to the supreme sky-god El. Yahweh was widely worshipped in Canaan and probably the god of metallurgy during the Bronze Age (3500-1200 BCE). During the Iron Age (1200-930BCE) the Israelites sought to distance themselves from other Canaanites and consolidate their political and military power, and Yahweh became the supreme being and the god of war and conquest. Hebrew scriptures were revised during the Second Temple Period (515BCE-70CE) to reflect the Israelite transition from henotheism to monotheism and the new understanding of Yahweh-as-warrior and Creator god.

    Yahweh has also been translated as the ‘god of mischief’ and the antithesis of the Lord God, i.e. a demonic being (Jesus condemned the Jews as people of the devil in John 8:44). As a Canaanite god, the worship of Yahweh included animal and human sacrifice, sexual orgies, etc. The Khazars who converted around 900CE to Judaism also practiced human sacrifice and orgies in their ritual worship of deities believed to have originated from the Canaanites. Muslims worship Allah, originally the moon-god Allat, the god of Muhammad’s Quraysh tribe. Allat, probably a baal god from the same region, follows the same trajectory as Yahweh, elevated from one of many gods to the supreme being.

    Jews, Christians and Muslims must free themselves from the yoke of ‘Yahwehism’ to find the correct path to the Lord God, whatever that may be…

  36. Anon[211] • Disclaimer says:

    “With 695 direct quotes, and 4,105 references to the Old Jewish Torah, Christians can’t reject the Old without repudiating the whole New Testament too.”

    It may not be as hard as one thinks. Those references are likely double-counted elsewhere in the text and include names and locations which people should be familiar with outside of the text.
    Besides, I don’t think there is any prohibition to including a small, additional text to the Bible that explains the references. Alternatively, we could replace the Torah/Old Testament with various apocryphal Christian books – the book of Mary for example – which, all together, would give context to the missing Torah parts. Also, Islam makes references to figures in the Torah while also not directly including that work in the Quran, so it’s not impossible.

    Removing the Jewish Torah from the Bible would be the single greatest means to separate brainwashed Christian-Zionists from the (((Israeli))) market-capitalist oligarchical yoke: no more worship of an ungrateful people who laugh at them and work against their group interests, no more subservience to a foreign country, no more disastrous Middle-Eastern wars, which Donald Trump has already admitted are really about Israel; the effort might even see improved relations with Muslims.

    This country (core America) is having a nervous breakdown because it lacks identity. Maybe we should work to change that? I don’t think old school revivals will do the trick anymore. So, it’s time for a change. Replacing the Jewish Torah, which includes much of the hateful teachings Hollywood (((comedians))) of the W. Bush Era attacked “religion” over, would make Christianity more amenable to modern audiences desperate for culture and historical connection to their ancestors – the same ones who built architectural wonders like Notre Dame. A side benefit might also be a greater focus on community and family, and perhaps also a higher total fertility rate (TFR) among valuable Caucasians, which is sorely needed in the United States. Whatever Christians are doing now isn’t working, so we should consider an alternate path.

    Turning Christianity into a European cultural and ethnic identity (in addition to a pure religion) like Judaism is for Jews would activate neural circuits people naturally have for religion (community service, willingness to fight, group networking, and willingness to sacrifice) and finally give us a real weapon to fight back with; cults like New Atheism, White Nationalism, Civic Nationalism, and Boomer Conservatism failed because they can’t activate those same neural circuits in adherents…but a reformed Christianity might. After all, a majority of Jews in Israel say they do not believe in God, so Judaism cannot simply be a religion. It’s an ethnic, historical, and cultural demarcation between themselves and “The Other” and it works quite well for them. See Israel’s success in maintaining itself as an example. Did they have any trouble building a wall?

    • Agree: Mefobills
    • Replies: @anon
  37. Anon[211] • Disclaimer says:

    “*correction: Jesus never once said he was God”

    Jesus: “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” Good enough.

    • Replies: @anon
  38. nickels says:

    And that’s why scholars are the lowest on the totem pole in the Orthodox church when it comes to interpreting scriptures.
    Only those who live by the scripture can understand them.
    Which means that we look to the saints for our interpretation.
    And they don’t agree with this kind of strangeness.
    In reality, this sort of picking apart and cross referencing the bible (something protestants love to do) is a form of gnosticism, wherein people think they can find the secrets of history and salvation by cleverness. But the result is only heresy.

  39. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Neither Jew Jesus nor Jew Paul liked Goyim (Gentiles) any better than the Jewish Talmud authors, with several anti-Gentile passages I could list. And while European Christians have attempted to adapt Christianity into a pro-Gentile religion, the original Jewish authors couldn’t help themselves blaming Whitey.

  40. @Anon012

    No matter how many times a Jew is baptized, they remain a Jew.

  41. Judaism is a political system religionized. End of story.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  42. Seraphim says:
    @anon

    ‘Nature’s God’ means ‘the God OF Nature’, not ‘God the Nature’.

    “The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”.

    Who is the God of Nature? The Creator. Nature has a God above it. The Founding Fathers were not pantheists.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Digital Samizdat
    , @Dube
  43. I still say Joseph Atwill is the one who got it right.

  44. I never thought about it in this way. I had just assumed that BCE and CE was the US academic standard. But perhaps you are right, I’ll think about it: read my next article to see if I followed your advice. : ) Thanks anyway for your challenging remark. But I don’t think the term “New Testament traditionalist” applies to me. As I said, the NT is full of the OT, and so is a problem anyway from my viewpoint.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  45. astro3 says:

    “While Herodotus had crossed Syria-Palestine around 450 BCE without hearing about Judeans or Israelites” – Right, I always feel that is so important: all Herodotus ever heard, was that there were people in that area who practiced circumcision.

    “the totally fictitious empire of Solomon. ” – glad someone said that!

    “, world history was calibrated on a largely fanciful biblical chronology (Egyptology is now trying to recover from it)” – this guy is spot-on!

    “The sanctification of Yahweh’s bloody leadership during the Exodus and the conquest of Canaan has made Gentiles incapable of understanding the historical foundation of Jewishness, and helpless in the face of its intrinsic violence today. ” – too right, and why we’d need a ‘real’ account of the Exodus if that could be found …

    ” to mistake the Creator of the Universe for a topical demon rumbling and spitting fire from a Midianite volcano (Exodus 19),” – very Freudian! ‘the original character of the god …an uncanny bloodthirsty demon who walks by night and shuns the light of day (freud, Moses and Monotheism, page 56) ‘the god Jahve … was a rude, narow-mined local god, violent and bloodthirsty’ (p80) NB Freud ‘committed suicide’ rather suddenly after publishing this.
    “…adopted as tutelary deity by a confederation of Semitic nomadic tribes craving for a piece of the Fertile Crescent.” – yep, that’s right! All Christian theology colleges need to study this stuff!

    M. Guyenot has achieved deep insight into the VAH the Vampire anti-god from Hell ” that also they learned from Yahweh, who dreams only of plunder:”

    To his 3 ancient historians Mr G. cites – recalling what was known about the Exodus – one could add the Egyptian Manetho of 3rd century BC: and one gets the general picture of Egypt being glad to see the Hebrews go and pushing them out – an early case of ‘virulent anti-semitism’! It’s been going on for 33 centuries!

    “Inside every Christian is a Jew,” stated Pope Francis. That is the simplest and the deepest truth about Christianity ” – Can you believe a pope said that? That is so horrendous.

    “A radically critical approach of the Old Testament is, I believe, an indispensable component of Gentiles’ mental emancipation and recovery of their natural defense mechanism against the Yahweh-Zion matrix” – too right, the Holy Scribblers were much later than generally alleged. Start of with no David-Solomon United kingdom, and ask, did the Jews really have any kings? they had some tribal chiefs and prophets. Did they build a temple? I doubt it. Piled a few stones together, more like it.

    They did really, really have monotheism, which they got from Akhenaten-Moses, as his Hymn to the Sun became the 104th psalm. Jesus needed this teaching. If there was a Diving Plan then this has to be a part of it. So there ass a duality as Freud described between this ‘glorious’ monotheism and the demon-vampire god who kind of wanted to take over.

    “But I know what you’re thinking: “Who cares what a Marcionite has to say?”” – no, I’m thinking, how wonderful that a Marcionite exists! Maybe the first since Simone Weil?

    JC would surely have agreed with M. Guyenot: “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees! Hypocrites! You travel a circuit of sea and land to bind the heart of one man in your faith as a disciple. And when you find one, you teach him your ways so he becomes doubly worse than you, and thus twice more a son of hell than yourselves,” Matthew 23. “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies,” john Chapter 8 – spoken to the Jews.

  46. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Good enough is a bit of a stretch, when all he’s doing there is inserting himself as a Jewish Gatekeeper to the divine. Jewish Rabbis are constantly pulling that kind of shit.

    • Replies: @c matt
  47. Saggy says: • Website
    @anon

    • “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters–yes, even their own life–such a person cannot be my disciple.” -Luke 14:26

    • “And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.” -Matthew 19:29

    Wow!

    Just to add something …. ‘A Real Case Against the Jews’ – http://www.patriot.dk/ravage.html
    by Marcus Ravage – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Eli_Ravage
    makes the similar point to the article, that ‘Judaism’ is the core of Christianity.

  48. @Anon012

    Yes, she was a true spiritual genius, with a deep understanding of the evils of Israel. Being a hellenistic scholar by education, she also saw Jesus as a Greek tragic hero. She defined herself as a Christian, yet never asked to be baptised and was systematically disapointed by every priest she met. I can easily identify with her struggle.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  49. Anon[224] • Disclaimer says:

    “The great unmentionable evil at the center of our culture is monotheism. From a barbaric Bronze Age text known as the Old Testament, three anti-human religions have evolved — Judaism, Christianity, Islam. These are sky-god religions. They are, literally, patriarchal — God is the omnipotent father — hence the loathing of women for 2,000 years in those countries afflicted by the sky-god and his earthly male delegates.

    The sky-god is a jealous god, of course. He requires total obedience from everyone on earth, as he is in place not for just one tribe but for all creation. Those who would reject him must be converted or killed for their own good.

    Ultimately, totalitarianism is the only sort of politics that can truly serve the sky-god’s purpose. Any movement of a liberal nature endangers his authority and that of his delegates on earth. One God, one King, one Pope, one master in the factory, one father-leader in the family home.” ~ Gore Vidal

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  50. Seraphim says:
    @anon

    Unfortunate quotation.
    The whole passage is:
    “Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me. 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, MAKEST THYSELF GOD. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I AM THE SON OF GOD? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him”.

    • Replies: @anon
  51. The “people of the book” did indeed interbreed with Christians all through history. Since Christianity is an outgrowth of the older Judaism, it’s neither surprising, nor conspiratorial, nor sinister. But it goes both ways with the power-tool cross fertilization, no?

    Where does the PR power-sculpting tool of siding with the underdog to generate mass-scale popularity come from if not from the New (cocky, rebellious) Testament? Seeing the transcendent glory in the lowly, Biblical prostitute—or in any oppressed, denigrated group—can lead to “It’s-like-Secretariat” victories for verbal champions of the Deplorable Class.

    It can also lead to dynastic glory for Jews, Christians, agnostics and atheists seeking power (or riches) on the left, channeling that Old Time Religion of Underdog Power through Woke appreciation for oppressed skin-pigmentation groups, a sentiment that promptly falls by the wayside when Elites from the left, right, Christain, Jewish, Muslim or lurking secular-humanist side of the fence actually get the power they seek.

    Then they all seek mostly money and power for their DNA dynasties, along with power for Elite cronies of various skin-pigmentation hues, leaving the Economic underdogs that hoisted them to power in the dust until it’s time to pander to them again in the next campaign cycle. It’ll be all over-the-top Underdog Flattery then.

  52. The book of Joshua written by a pre-exile writer? In the book of Judges chapter 13-16 are devoted to Samson. He is said to originate form the tribe of Judah and to have battled with the philistines. Archeologes however have discovered an amazing amount of mosaics, depicting Samson, of synagogue floors in Galilee. Samson appeared to be the favorite hero of the Galileans. The philistines were occupiers of Israel and so were the Romans. It is possible to interpret the Samson narratives with a hidden protest against the Romans wrapped in it. So what proof exists that Joshua is ‘pre-exile’? All the Tenakh books were subjected to an editing process that ended around AD 200 in Tiberias. This means that the ‘pre-exile’ assumption is ideological.

    • Replies: @anon
  53. Vojkan says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Why indeed, especially since they’re neither the most virtuous, loyal, altruistic nor the most beautiful or clever bunch down here, though they definitely are worthy contenders for the title of most cunning?

    • Replies: @Poco
  54. mike k says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    Agreed. You said it exactly how it is. Tying ourselves to this ignorant past is a huge mistake. We each and all need to take a fresh look at our spiritual beliefs, and discard what has become outmoded.

  55. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whats in a name

    “God” is denounced in the Old Testament, in the following passage: “But you who forsake Yahweh, who forget my holy mountain, who prepare a table for God.” (Isaiah 65:11) The translators weaseled and wrote “Gad” with the vowel “a” to cover up that fact, and christians further obscure it by claiming it means fortune. “Gad/Gawd/God” is simply another iteration for Gott, Gotin, Godin, Odin, Woden, Wotan.

    Furthermore, the weekday today is God’s Day, or Woden’s Day. As much as European Jew-worshipers try to avoid venerating their own ancestors “pagan” beliefs, they still honor the ancient Norse “pagan” European deities simply speaking the days of the work week.

    • Tuesday, named to honor the Norse god of war, Tiu, or Tyr, the son of Odin.
    • Wednesday, named to honor Odin, or Woden, chief god in Norse mythology.
    • Thursday, named to honor Thor, Norse god of thunder.
    • Friday, named to honor the Norse goddess of love, Frigg, or Frija.

  56. @astro3

    Thanks!

    very Freudian! ‘the original character of the god …an uncanny bloodthirsty demon who walks by night and shuns the light of day (freud, Moses and Monotheism, page 56) ‘the god Jahve … was a rude, narow-mined local god, violent and bloodthirsty’ (p80) NB Freud ‘committed suicide’ rather suddenly after publishing this

    I’m intrigued: did Freud commit suicide?

    • Replies: @Anon
  57. Great reflections by Laurent on the festering sore on the world today. People who find this article as bunk or just plain silly need to open their eyes and take a look at the danger of war with Iran and possible resulting escalation into a full blown nuclear world war. We have an imbecile in the White House surrounded by a gaggle of NeoCon clowns who are just itching to do the bidding of their master Nutenyahoo and his Chabad Lubavitcher owners. Many people have no clue how insane these people in high places are.

    • Agree: Robjil
  58. wayfarer says:

    “It is written, it is in the Torah, Yahweh is a Draco Reptilian, and we are her chosen ignorant tools.” – Anonymous Rabbi.

  59. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Jefferson, the author of the Declaration, explicitly called himself an Epicurean and explicitly called himself a Materialist (in the philosophical sense,) and Epicurean materialism is associated with pantheism, especially considering Epicurus was no atheist, although often accused. Furthermore, the Founders weren’t Christians as the term is defined by the vast majority of Christians, for example:

    “I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved—the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!” -John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, September 3, 1816

    Try as you might to insert words into the Declaration of Independence, it doesn’t say what you attempt to make it say.

    P.S. “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” is also an explicitly Epicurean term.
    https://www.pursuit-of-happiness.org/history-of-happiness/epicurus/

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  60. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Very interesting article Guyènot , keep on the topic .

    tps://arretsurinfo.ch/guy-mettans-book-on-russophobia-an-important-contribution-to-the-demystification-of-international-relations/

    I found very interesting Guy Mettan book : Russie -Occident , une guerre de mille ans . La russophobie de Charlemagne a la crise ucranienne . Editions des Syrtes, Genève, 2015, 482 pages

    I don´t know if there is an english translation .

    Guyenot you seem to say that the Orthodox Christianity was the purest, the closest to the originnal , Mettan says that the Frankish exerted a constant pressure to dominate Rome , and in order to do so they did things like to to create a latin rite to differenciate from orthodox rite ,they invened differences like the ” Filioque ” etc….

    In Spain ( christian and moor occupied ) it was used the Mozarabic rite , ( also called Hispanic , or Visigothic rite ) was used till the XI century , when the Pope and the franks pressured to change it to the Roman rite ,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozarabic_Rite

  61. @Anon

    Perhaps the reason many of our founders were deist?

    Cult: In Deism, a cult is an embracing of unreasonable beliefs by a group of people. Based on this definition, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all cults because their members suspend their God-given reason in order to believe or accept the unreasonable dogmatic teachings and superstitions such as God giving real estate as a gift to the Jews, the resurrection and ascension of Jesus, faith-healing (as just one example of faith-healing being a superstition, if faith-healing was REAL innocent helpless children would not be dying from the attempts of their parents at Biblical faith-healing) and Mohammed’s ascension to heaven, among many more false and unreasonable claims. Because Deism always promotes free and independent thought and reason, it is impossible for Deism to become a cult.

    Deism: Deism is the recognition of a universal creative force greater than that demonstrated by mankind, supported by personal observation of laws and designs in nature and the universe, perpetuated and validated by the innate ability of human reason coupled with the rejection of claims made by individuals and organized religions of having received special divine revelation. (For an outstanding article on the definition of Deism click here.)

    Faith: This word has been so terribly abused by “revealed” religions that it has come to really mean the suspension of an individual’s God-given reason in order to accept, or at least to tolerate, an unreasonable claim made by a “revealed” religion. It is the only way “revealed” religions can get people to accept such insane and unreasonable claims and ideas as original sin, walking on water, healing the sick without medical care, splitting the Red Sea, etc. Deists prefer to use the word “trust” instead of faith due to the twisted meaning the word “faith” has acquired after centuries of abuse from the “revealed” religions.

    One key difference between Deism and the “revealed” religions is that Deists don’t believe faith is required to believe in God. This quote from Voltaire sums it up, “What is faith? Is it to believe that which is evident? No. It is perfectly evident to my mind that there exists a necessary, eternal, supreme, and intelligent being. This is no matter of faith, but of reason.”

    God: The eternal universal creative force which is the source of the laws and designs found throughout Nature.

    Intelligent Design: Intelligent Design refers to the structures in Nature, such as that of DNA, which can be observed and the complexity of which required an intelligent Designer. In this context “structure” means something arranged in a definite pattern of organization. In Deism, Intelligent Design has absolutely nothing to do with the unreasonable Biblical myth of creation.

    Natural Religion: Belief in God based on the application of reason on the laws/designs of Nature as opposed to revealed religion which is based on alleged revelations.

    Philosophy: The study of the truths and principles of being, knowledge, or conduct.

    Reason: The mental powers used with forming conclusions or inferences based on facts. Deists look at reason as the second greatest gift from Nature’s God to humanity, second only to life itself.

    Religion: A set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature and purpose of the universe.

    Revelation: The act of revealing or of making known. In the religious sense, revelation usually means divine revelation. This is meaningless, since revelation can only be revelation in the first instance. For example, if God revealed something to me, that would be a divine revelation to me. If I then told someone else what God told me it would be mere hearsay to the person I tell. If that person believed what I said, they would not be putting their trust in God, but in me, believing what I told them was actually true.

    Revealed Religion: An organized system of belief in and worship of God based on the belief that God communicated/communicates with certain individual founders/members of the particular revealed religion. As mentioned above, by believing in any of the revealed religions a believer is not putting their trust in God, but in the person/people making the claim of receiving the divine revelation.

    Trust: Trust is confidence in a person or thing based on reason and experience.

    http://www.deism.com/deism_defined.htm

  62. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @All we like sheep

    The fictional character Jesus is himself a hero of the Galileans and a protest against the Romans. The Cross/Jesus replace the Roman tromaeum/Caesar, and also replacing “the mourning Gallia,” while making a Jewking the new supreme leader. Jesus alludes to this when he referenced this “render unto Caesar” coin:

    On the reverse there is an image which makes one think of a crucifixion with Mary and John beneath the cross. It is the defeated Vercingetorix and the mourning Gallia. On the cruxiform tropaeum hang the weapons of Vercingetorix. Both sides of these coins are still found unchanged on medaillons which the Christians sill carry around the neck with the Madonna on the one side and the cross on the other – 48 years before Christ’s birth!

    Jesus Christ = Julius Caesar
    Lecture by Francesco Carotta, 28 November 2002
    http://www.carotta.de/subseite/echo/tumult-e.html

    Johnny Walker Read is onto Christianity as a Jewish Hollywood storytelling to replace Caesar also, in comment #43.

    • Replies: @anon
  63. c matt says:
    @Isidora

    Eastern Orthodox can’t even keep marriage right, but I am supposed to believe their take on the Mother of God?

  64. c matt says:
    @anon

    Also recall during His trial before the Sanhedrin: “Before Moses was, I am.”

    Not many a rabbi would pull that “shit”, in particular while on trial before the Sanhedrin on blasphemy charges.

    • Replies: @anon
  65. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    All Jew Testament quotes are “unfortunate,” and unfortunately for you, all you’ve proven is that the Jewish accusers of the fictional character Rabbi Jesus put words in his mouth that he never spoke himself—which you accept. And that divinely thin gruel exists only in the very latest and most revised rehash of the conflicting Synoptic Gospels—to the extent it’s no longer a synopsis—all of which present the Jewish Hollywood story about a Magic Rabbi differently.

  66. anon[188] • Disclaimer says:
    @X

    I once knew a jewish girl. But it was only long after I stopped talking to her that I discovered she was jewish.

    i look back to grade school and high school at a few people i now suspect were jews and an inordinate number of them seemed to have very high self esteem or worthiness, way out of proportion to their abilities or talents

    small sample size though

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  67. anon[129] • Disclaimer says:

    “Good enough is a bit of a stretch.”

    It’s good enough. It’s also supported by thousands of years of Christian tradition and culture; a significant portion of Judasim is the same way. Ignore the ethnic activists who insert themselves disingenuously into the Christian community with the purpose of undermining it for their tribe’s benefit. A substantial number of Odinists and self-professed atheists who come to these kinds of threads are neither. That’s what Hasbara is doing with the “Jesus = Jew”, “Jesus =/= God” commentary (implying he’s just some guy who should be ignored). If you’re dumb enough to split your community or abandon fundamental exclusive precepts of your philosophy – leaving you as atomized prey against a determined rival with a strong sense of exclusive identity – you deserve the consequences*. Personally, I’d like to be part of a cohesive group where people work to advance our mutual interests at the expense of the people who are working against us.

    *You guys really think it’s a coincidence all those Hollywood (((comedians))) and (((directors))) spent so many years attacking “religion” while simultaneously making (((their religion))) off limits to criticism?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
    , @anon
  68. “if it wasn’t for the old Testament, how would devout Christians learn to embrace righteous hatred?”

    One doesn’t need to know a lick of the OT to to know Christ.

    • Agree: Che Guava
    • Replies: @anon
  69. “Now I’m not going to pretend this is anything other than just my own observation, but the superstitious part of me says that Christians have bad luck precisely because they directly worship a deity who hates them.”

    it would be interesting to know what is meant by “bad luck”. Merely making a claim to some generic idea without specifics is hardly evidence that christians have bad luck. What christians have a is a way of addressing the world that runs counter to how the world operates and as such christians my forego many of the joys the world embraces.

    But without knowing the context of “bad luck”, the statement is neutral or empty.

  70. onebornfree says: • Website

    “God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos. He will set them above their betters. The same consolation for otherwise hopeless men is to be found in the concepts of King, President and so on. Such puissant creatures always attract and fascinate the third-rate. It is only an occasional Washington correspondent who can resist the Presidents arm about his neck, the presidential scratch along his back. The favor of such magnificoes gives the inferior man a thrilling sense of importance, of power.” H.L. Mencken

    ” People crave certainties in this world, and are hostile to ifs and buts. The chief strength of organized religion lies in the fact that it provides plain and positive assurance for poor souls who find the mysteries of this earthly existence an intolerable headache, and are uneasy about their prospects post-mortem. In the political field the same appetite for surety is visible, which explains, of course, the prosperity of demagogues. They are simply persons who promise in loud, ringing voices to solve the insoluble and unscrew the inscrutable. At their worst, they are palpable frauds, comparable to so many thimble-riggers at a county fair; at their best they come close to the elegant imbecility of theologians.” H.L. Mencken

    Regards, onebornfree

  71. onebornfree says: • Website
    @anon

    anon[110] • Disclaimer says: “Jefferson, the author of the Declaration,…”

    Actually, recent research based on close examination of the wording and phrasing of the Declaration, suggests that its likely author was not Jefferson, but Paine. A minor point, perhaps?

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  72. Che Guava says:
    @Baxter

    It originated among 19th century theologians and historians of the Church, mainly Dutch and German.

    However, the meaning was completely different to that of now. It *exclusively* referred to the Judaeizing faction in early Christianity.

    The first recorded usage in the insane sense of now is from a Protestant (one must assume ‘Christian-Zionist’) heretical preacher in or about 1948.

    It was little-used for some time after that.

    The first time by a US politician was in the late 1960s. However, it was remaining rare until the 1980s, and even wasn’t very common after that.

    In the late nineties, and until now, that nonsensical usage became more and more common among many politicians in the slave-states of Zionism (particularly the USA and UK).

    The above lacks details, but I can assure you that it is an accurate time-line. The below, some of the phenomena may precede my rough time-line, but it is accurate.

    In the Roman Catholic Church, of course, it goes back to the heavily Jewish-influenced Vatican II.

    Some Jews had inflitrated the Church (both as theologians and clergy) at the time, others were to later have an influence through the entirely misguided extension of ‘ecumenism’ to cover Jews, and then Mohameddenans, at times. This is quite recent, and I am pretty sure that treachorous and heretical (scores of respected Catholic scholars and minor clergy recently made a declaration that he is a heretic, with claims that bishops and cardinals would support it, but don’t dare). Bergoglio is the first Pope to really have pushed the idea further, with his inane support for invasion of Europe, even kissing the feet of invaders, and openly using ‘Judaeo-Christian’ in the same inane and wrong sense as U.S. politicians.

    • Replies: @Republic
  73. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Vulgar Era would be today, the Jew Era.

    I always use AD and BC.

    • Replies: @anon
  74. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Johnny Walker Read says: “Judaism is a political system religionized. ”

    Aren’t they all , these days, “a political system religionized” , [including Satanism]?

    Marxism/collectivism seems [to me anyway] to be the exact opposite, that is, a religion politicized.

    Either way, it/they all boil down to the exact same crap, loudly and widely proclaimed as irrefutable truth.

    Regards, onebornfree

  75. Anon[328] • Disclaimer says:

    “The sky-god is a jealous god, of course. He requires total obedience from everyone on earth, as he is in place not for just one tribe but for all creation. Those who would reject him must be converted or killed for their own good.”

    1) Belief in the “sky-god”, as you put it, has given Israel her own country and Jews a strong sense of ethnic identity and academic achievement. Skeptic philosophy has led not to a utopia of reason but to a country where everyone hates each other and where entire demographics are killing themselves through drug addiction and record suicide rates.

    That philosophy had its shot, and it hasn’t worked out so well: our government is corrupt and inept, there is absolutely no sense of civic virtue anymore, no common decency, no identity, economic blight is everywhere (Flint, Michigan), continual wars (not limited to just when the GOP is in power), endless witch hunts and two minute sessions of hate (barbecue Becky, #metoo, #Oscarssowhite, various fake rape cases …), a rejection of science (genetics / heredity and not just climate change), an encroaching police state, greater despair, gridlock, national dysfunction, grift, dog-eat-dog market capitalism, no culture whatsoever besides eating other people’s cuisine, and endless racism from nearly every group against every other group.

    Consult Jonathon Haidt’s work. Humans are not machines that come to belief by reason. Rather, they come to their preconceived notions post hoc based on group identity or personal gain, and then they attempt to justify their beliefs after the fact. Thus, abolishing religion will never lead to what you saw on Star Trek in the 1990s; it will only lead people to embrace other group identities – ethnic, racial (alt-right), religious, gender (radical feminism), political (communism, extreme market-capitalism), social class, conspiracy theory groups (flat earth, ufology), etc.

    In that light, I think it would be better to just reform Christianity similar to Juadism where culture and identity is merged with optional belief (again, in Israel a majority of people say they do not believe in God despite being Jewish and they have a thriving scientific industry and wonderful group cohesion).

    Evolution has given you the same neural circuitry that produces the calming effect seen in those who meditate. Why not take advantage of that? If you’re a depressed atheist reading this comment, try going to church for a month or so. Don’t change any of your beliefs about the existence of God or science or become a moral prude; just participate in the rituals, meet people, and explore the culture and history a bit – while practicing a bit of self-discipline (that’s why people dress up for Sunday church besides just the respect for God stuff). You’ll come out of it feeling better, I promise. That’s exactly what Jews have. Don’t let negative depictions of Christian philistines on the internet deter you from trying it out (or literalist Christians who believe the earth is flat).

    Say what you want, but many practicing Christians have a higher TFR and stronger sense of family than the rest of the atomized population. If you had that sense of community, you’d know immediately what you were missing in your previous life: a sense of purpose, an emotional rock of supporters, and an optimistic outlook for the future – mostly, minus the crazy evangelical end-of-the-world nonsense. Personally, I think this is a good thing and perhaps a wise social planner might take advantage of it. Either that or you get a police state in the near future as the country comes apart.

    2) Most human religions are not proselytizing religions.

  76. anon[328] • Disclaimer says:

    “Christians have bad luck”

    Practicing Christians are pretty much the only Caucasian group that is replacing themselves in the American population. 100 years from now, there may not be many non-Caucasian Christians left – total extinction. Now, that is what I call bad luck.

  77. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Seraphim

    Seraphim says: “The fact is that Notre-Dame was built by bishops and kings….”

    “The Notre Dame Fire / Fake Live Imagery Scam”

    “………this video analysis…of the recent Notre Dame fire in Paris, France , reveals that the Notre Dame spire collapse is exactly the same in fall angle/direction, and at the exact same speed per frame, as that of a 7 year old video game called “I Pet Goat”. Remember, on the morning of 9/11, the US president G.W. Bush was filmed in front of a class at a Florida elementary school, pretending to read a book titled “My Pet Goat”- which he happened to be holding upside down……..”:

    See: “The Notre Dame Fire / Fake Live Imagery Scam”:
    http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2019/05/onebornfrees-special-scam-alerts-no-95.html

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  78. And it would be an incorrect rendering of scripture of the OT to make a definitive comment that God was only for and about the Jews.

    In reality, Israel was to be the light the light of a God who embraced all of humanity should they choose to embrace him.

    Hence the common reference,

    ” . . . a light unto the nations.” Israel by her example would would bring humanity to God as Israel brought God to humanity.

    Note: a look at the period reveals a very common thematic schema regarding religious practice, many nations/societies claimed unique god relationships. But the very purpose of Israel was to be alight to the world — it was not intended that God be some kind being for her alone. She makes that same error as many who oppose her do.

  79. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    “Mythology” is right. The triumph of Christianity lay in the superiority of the Jews’ stories. (Boy can they make stuff up!). The “alt right” idea that we can replace the Bible with Greek or Germanic myths is absurd; not only is it just LARPing, but the people who DID create and live those myths couldn’t wait to dump them for the Bible. Goethe, no less, was especially harsh about “these sad old tales we have outgrown” (or words to that effect).

    What DOES need to be done is to understand them to BE myths, not history, and poof! the need for Jews and Israel disappears.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  80. anon[188] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    *You guys really think it’s a coincidence all those Hollywood (((comedians))) and (((directors))) spent so many years attacking “religion” while simultaneously making (((their religion))) off limits to criticism?

    exactly

  81. kikz says:

    thanks for waking up, welcome to Deism. 🙂 you’re in good company… Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, Adams, Allen, Madison, Washington, and many more.

    Thomas Jefferson Memorial Inscriptions: Rotunda.

    “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”. ~T. Jefferson

  82. MEFOBILLS says:

    Bradley suggests that New Testament is from the WEST.

    Western Cro-Magnon’s brought with them Christ concepts of being a good-shepherd.

    Cro Magnon man used small boats, and moved along waterways, moving West to East. These small boats were of made of beeswax sealed leather stretched over wood ribs. Leather came from domesticated cattle, hence the good shepherd.

    Cro-Magnon and the more Semitic/Neanderthalic peoples came into collision through immigration. The melting glaciers after fourth ice age opened up new routes for human migration.

    Yahweh may be a brain disease of humans with high fraction Neanderthalic admixture. Fear centers of this type of brain might be over-active, and not able to be tamed by the hippo-campus. We know that evolution and race is more than “skin deep.” In other words, the Amygdala of this brain runs wild, and the higher centers and frontal lobes are unable to cope.

    Some of our Jewish friends have overt Neanderthalic physiognomy, such as sloping foreheads, long hooked noses, weak chins, long barrel shaped torsos, and short legs. Some atavistic examples of our Jewish friends are so neanderthalic, they have high squeaky voices as expected.

    Bradley also suggests “no graven images” is a function of Neanderthalic poor ability to draw or carve.

    http://www.michaelbradley.info/tjv/thejesusvoyage.pdf

  83. Alden says:
    @schrub

    You’re totally right. BCE and CE is a Jewish invention designed to denigrate the Roman, then Catholic Vatican observatory Georgian calendar used all over the world.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
  84. @Anon

    The triumph of Christianity lay in the superiority of the Jews’ stories. (Boy can they make stuff up!).

    The Jews did not “make up those stories,” they borrowed and revised them from more ancient Mesopotamian and other myths.

  85. kikz says:

    upon further reading…tsk tsk tsk….. “Atheism is the end result of biblical monotheism: it is the rejection of the biblical God, mistaken for the true God. “If Yahweh is God, no thanks” has been the simple rationale for atheism in Christendom since the Enlightenment: Voltaire, for example, scorned Christianity by quoting the Old Testament. Yahweh has ruined faith in a divine Creator.”

    not for all. causal fallacy, flag on the play. Voltaire was a Deist, among many Founders.

    But I know what you’re thinking: “Who cares what a Marcionite has to say?”

    great article, and you do a great service, despite tripping on your Marcionite dogma which tends to cause such ‘catholic lapses’ in reason. 😉 excision of a mind worm in-situ from birth is a sysyphian constraint. points for continued effort 😉

  86. ““I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”. ~T. Jefferson”

    Unless of course those minds were those of blacks, he owned and held in captivity.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @kikz
  87. Anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    “The retention of the OT in the Church was necessary because it prophesied the Incarnation, Passion and Resurrection of the Christ, the Son of God (which is the original message of Jesus), and is a witness of the constant transgressions and stubbornness with which the Jews rejected the prophecies …”

    So far you’re the only commenter here who gets this. As a Catholic that part of the Old Testament is important to me. All of the Jewish laws and self-worship in the Old Testament – not very much. But this article and the commenters are ready to throw out the baby with the bath water. Give me the new wine in the new wineskin.

  88. Anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Al Goldstein, who published Screw magazine, stated, ““The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism.”

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @anon
  89. Beckow says:
    @obwandiyag

    Do we know the etymology of Joshua?

    One theory is that it came from a pre-historic language sub-strata around Indian Ocean in Sumer, Elam, Indus valley, around 5-7,000 years ago.

    Joshua consisted of two simple words: ‘ja‘ meant ‘with‘.
    ‘Shoua’ or more precisely ‘Shiva’ is an ancient term for ‘life’, still preserved in the Hindu god Shiva that preceded IE take-over of India and is proto-Dravidian.

    Joshua means ‘one with life‘, or maybe ‘one giving life‘. Similarly A-braham came from the ‘one giving promise‘ – brahma is a term for ‘promise to gods’. Ancient Hebrews were a small Western offshoot in Canaan of the early bronze age civilization on the northern shores of the Indian Ocean. Or their original elite was. The story of Abraham’s tribe coming from city of Ur in Sumer and from Elam suggests that they had a foundation myth of coming from the east. Their closest today’s relatives are pre-IE remains in India, mostly speaking Dravidian languages today and still worshipping Shiva.

    Or the 6th century BC scribes invented it all while in Babylon based on local sources from ancient Sumer.

  90. Anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Jesus said if you have seen Him you have seen His Father.

    • Replies: @anon
  91. @Seraphim

    The Founding Fathers were not pantheists.

    Maybe not; but they were definitely Masons.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Seraphim
  92. Beckow says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    …Yahweh may be a brain disease of humans with high fraction Neanderthalic admixture. Fear centers of this type of brain might be over-active

    Neanderthals largely disappeared by 30k years ago. They were absorbed. The idea that their DNA would stay around and have significant separateness is far fetched – it would be so diluted that all would have it, or none would have it.

    A better reading of geography and linguistics suggests that the original elite of Hebrews came from the east. They have all signs of an ancient culture that moved west with their sheep and cattle and mixed with the local Semitic tribes. They had the weary cynicism and verbal acuity that all survivors of ancient civilisations usually have. They are what one would call ‘former’ people. They also don’t know how to fight.

    In Canaan they mixed with primitive but more vigorous Semites and the result was that they acquired some military muscle. Also that their ancient myths and gods were preserved – in a syncretic form. Further east most carriers of that ancient pre-historic civilization died out or were completely absorbed. What was unique about Hebrews was the military vigour that the Semitic tribes they mixed with gave them – if you read their myths correctly it is all about a verbally gifted elite getting Semitic tribesmen to fight for them. Not much has changed.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  93. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @c matt

    Yeah, but he was a Rabbi and it says so many times. I’ve got a list here of 5 passages in the Gospels where Jesus is a Rabbi. Also, being a Rabbi, Jesus taught in the Synagogues, and was popular among every Jew!

    “He taught regularly in their Synagogues and was praised by everyone.” Luke 4:15

    Ain’t no weaselin’ out of that! But then he did become unpopular. So what? It’s time for you to stop thinking you have to take sides in every Jewish spat, and the example to follow is White Patriarch Pilate:

    Must I add that, in the whole New Testament, there appears but a solitary figure worthy of honour? Pilate, the Roman viceroy. To regard a Jewish imbroglio seriously — that was quite beyond him. One Jew more or less — what did it matter? – Friedrich Nietzsche

  94. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    “As a Catholic that part of the Old Testament is important to me. All of the Jewish laws and self-worship in the Old Testament – not very much.”

    AFAI can tell, a certain verse in Leviticus seems to take up most Christian “thought”.

  95. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    > Hasbara is doing with the “Jesus = Jew”

    Then the New Testament was written by Hasbara. Read this example:

    We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.” John 4:22

    And the catechism must have been written by Hasbara too!

    To the Jews ‘belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship…’” Catechism of the Catholic Church

    Jesus’ Jewishness is like a turd in a punchbowl. Try as you may to remove chunks, you just can never clear the stink. Christianity stinks of Jew worship, even if the theologians hide the big floaters in the trash can.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  96. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    “The retention of the OT in the Church was necessary because it prophesied the Incarnation, Passion and Resurrection of the Christ, the Son of God (which is the original message of Jesus), and is a witness of the constant transgressions and stubbornness with which the Jews rejected the prophecies …”

    Really? News to the Jews who wrote it. Actually, the OT was necessary because, since Jesus (even IF he actually existed) left to historical record, they had to weave their fairy tales using OT materials. Makes it real easy to “fulfill the prophecy” if you’re writing the ONLY “historical” account. Predicting a “second coming” was a lot harder to engineer, but they’re still working on it…

  97. @MEFOBILLS

    Neanderthal meets Nincompoop

    FEBRUARY 19, 2019
    The Empire and the Five Kings
    Bernard-Henri Levy talked [ with Robert Kagan] about his book, The Empire and the Five Kings. In it he argued that America’s retreat from the world stage has resulted in the rise of five new powers – Russia, China, Turkey, Iran, and Sunni radical groups – that threaten Western values.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?458006-1/the-empire-kings

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  98. @anon

    Try this at home:

    1. Open this link http://www.boston-catholic-journal.com/baltimore_catechism.pdf
    The Baltimore Catechism of 1891

    2. Perform a word-search, “Jew” “Jews” “Jewish”

    3. Post results

    [ “none found”]

    • Replies: @anon
  99. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Except Kepler wasn’t a Jew, so here you are, a Jew-worshiper, smearing a good German fellow. The term AD, while in the beautiful pre-Christian Latin language, refers to a Jewish king, whose Seat is in a foreign middle-eastern land, and who demands that you hate and forsake your own blood and soil. Christianity is anti-White—the original Jewish Anti-fa movement—and no amount of white-washing changes that.

    “Christianity, sprung from Jewish roots and comprehensible only as a growth on this soil, represents the counter-movement to any morality of breeding, of race, privilege: it is the anti-Aryan religion par excellence. Christianity—the revaluation of all Aryan values, the victory of chandala values, the gospel preached to the poor and base, the general revolt of all the downtrodden, the wretched, the failures, the less favored, against ‘race:’ the undying chandala hatred is disguised as a religion of love.” -Friedrich Nietzsche

    • Replies: @Alden
  100. Judaism was just one of many tribal religions that existed in the Middle East in the bronze age. Those religions all had tribal gods that led the tribe to war against other tribes, and generally championed the home tribe’s interests above all others. Almost all those religions are gone now except Judaism.

    Although references to similar tribal religions can be found within Judaism..
    Judges 11:24: “if Chemosh your god takes over a country and gives it to you, don’t you have a right to it? And if the LORD [our god] takes over a country and gives it to us, the land is ours!”

    Which just goes to show you: Middle_Eastern nations recognized the land claims of the gods of each other’s national religion. And every people were the chosen people of their own tribal/national god.

    Another example, on the topic of usury: Exodus 23:20 “Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury” ——- The “stranger” is Hebrew נכרי (nokriy) a non-Jewish stranger, the “brother” is Hebrew אח (‘ach) a Jewish brother. If the “stranger” had meant a Jewish stranger it would have said גּוּר (ger).

    The god of the Torah is not a universal god, but a national one. The Torah is not a universal code of ethics but a national one. Another example: The Italian Mafia have a strict code of ethics too, but it only applies to in-groupies; outsiders are fair game.

    Nevertheless, there is light at the end of the Torah tunnel: El-oh-im is recognized as the universal god, and YHWH is one of many national god under him..
    [[Deuteronomy 32:8-9. When the Most High(el-oh-im עליון ☜☯) divided to the nations their inheritance.. For the Lord’s( יהוה YHWH ☜✡) portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.]]

  101. anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Al Goldstein, who published Screw magazine, stated, ““The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism.” . . .

    That and the fuckin’ crazy ROI

  102. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Oh good grief!

    Thomas Jefferson’s connections to fraternal organizations have often been misunderstood. He is frequently, yet falsely, linked to the Freemasons. Comments that he made in his correspondence suggest that he had a generally negative opinion of fraternal organizations. Even though standard histories of the Freemasons fail to include Jefferson in their rosters of early members, a persistent popular tradition claims Jefferson for Freemasonry.

    Thomas Jefferson Encyclopedia | Fraternal Organizations
    https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/fraternal-organizations

    And neither was John Quincy Adams, in fact, he was anti-Mason too. Jefferson and Adams are the 2 poles around which all the other Founders rotate. Yes, Washington and Franklin were both Masons. But your broad brush doesn’t work on the Founders. Better study a little harder.

  103. Anon[288] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    It seems Jews gained greater power in Northern Europe than in the Southern.

    Initially, it probably owed to Jews having skills Northerners didn’t have. After all, while Southern Europe was highly advanced, the North gradually moved from barbarism to civilization. So, civilized skills, such as those possessed by Jews, were more precious in the North.

    The other factor may have been the rise of Protestantism. Though Martin Luther was anti-Jewish, the emphasis on sincerity and principles made Northern folks more trusting and honest than Southern folks. While Southern folks were shamelessly corrupt, Northern ones were shamefully corrupt. The sense of shame made them less corrupt over the yrs, and Jews could exploit the burgeoning Rule of Law for their own benefit. Also, they could mess with the guilt complex of Northern folks. In contrast, it was difficult to toy with such among Southern folks who thought and acted like Joe Pesci in Scorsese movies.

    Or maybe it had less to do with Protestantism than Personality. Northern folks are generally less expressive and more inhibited than Southern folks who, if triggered, pull their hair and go crazy(therefore difficult for Jews to deal with). Even when Northern folks insulted Jews, they did it in a dull way whereas Southern folks did it with flair. It’s easier to deal with wooden anti-Jewishness than with flaring anti-Jewishness. Easier to deal with cold objects than hot objects. Cold anti-Jewishness could be hostile and unpleasant, but even its practitioners didn’t feel proud of it because it was blunt and cold. In contrast, hot anti-Jewishness was colorful and ‘fun’. Southern folks probably took pride in having fun while insulting the Jew.

    It’s like Joe Pesci saying nasty things about Jews doesn’t come across as particularly offensive. Just real. He does it with such gusto and panache. Just like the rhythm of rap music allows blacks to say awful things — it’s regarded as ‘cool’ and ‘badass’ than nasty and offensive because of the FF or Fun Factor — , the colorfulness of Southern folks made offensiveness seem less offensive and more fun. SOPRANOS would have been harder to stomach if it was about ‘cold’ Northern folks. It would just seem like a series of cold-blooded murders. But because Italians did their killing with lotsa color, it’s enjoyable to many people. Same with Don Rickles. He could get away with his offensive jokes because he did it with such chutzpah. So, if you want to be offensive and abrasive, have a personality.

  104. “Inside every Christian is a Jew,” stated Pope Francis

    Well, he would have been more precise had he said: inside every Christian is a Zoroastrian. Because Christianity is a refurbished late Zoroastrianism with many a Judaic phrase, but not the world-view.

    Christianity got most of it central ideas from Zarathustra & his sectarian Jewish followers who perished in 1st C AD & did not make way into normative Judaism.

    Dualism, not Ditheism

    The Great Evil One, Angra Mainyu or Satan (a minor figure in classical Judaism)

    The World Savior, Saoshayant & not a local Messiah

    Angelology

    Demonology

    Guardian Angels, Fravashi

    Hell

    Paradise

    The Great Final Showdown or Apocalypse

    Immortality of the soul (Orphic, then Platonic notion)

    Resurrection, again Zoroastrian invention

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  105. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Well, Jesus heard sounds from Uranus too. As some Hellenized Jewish storyteller puts it: καὶ ἰδοὺ φωνὴ ἐκ τῶν οὐρανῶν λέγουσα (“And lo a voice from Uranus, saying…” Matthew 3:17) Uranus is mentioned many times in the original Greek New Testament, and even his and Gaia’s children, the Titans—Kronos, Iapetus, Hyperion, Oceanus, Coeus, Creus, Theia, Rhea, Mnemosyne, Phoebe, Tethys, and Themis—are mentioned, as well as the Greek mythological place to which Uranus sent them. (“For if God [Uranus] spared not the angels [Titans] that sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment. 2 Peter 2:4) Welcome to Jewish Hollywood storytellers’ retelling of European Culture—never a good thing.

  106. @Anon

    No, I understand that perfectly. I disagree with grafting that god-man story onto the OT. By using the OT as a basis Westerners have surrendered themselves onto someone elses founding myths, beliefs, and exceptionalism. It is not our people’s history. It is there history and their god.

  107. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    And don’t forget the fleecing of the Goyim flock by the Goodjew Sheepherder.

    “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.” (Romans 15:27)

    Gentiles owe it to the Jews. There’s Ameica’s foreign policy in a nutshell. Straight out of the Jew Testament.

  108. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Grace Poole

    Do that Jewsearch to the Jew Testament also. Lot and lots of “Jew” found. So are you suggesting that we not only wind back the Catachism to being non-Jewish, but also the Jew Testament? Good idea! Maybe, like Jefferson excising the miracles, there may be some fragments of the canon left that are actually good! You’re thinking right, Grace. But until you get it done, Christianity’s principle is this:

    “The Jew First!” -Romans 1:16

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  109. Alden says:
    @anon

    It means year of the lord (Jesus) whoever he was.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  110. onebornfree says: • Website

    Thus, abolishing religion will never lead to what you saw on Star Trek in the 1990s; it will only lead people to embrace other group identities ……extreme market-capitalism ………”

    “extreme market-capitalism” ? Kripes! We can’t have that now , can we?

    I mean, whatever next – a real constitutionally limited federal government reduced to 5% of its current size that had no way to interfere in any part of the marketplace?

    Thank god for “saner heads”, like yourself , with their mythical “third way” and all that jazz 🙂 .

    Yeah, more of this “third way” that’s what “we” all need!

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @redmudhooch
  111. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    A substantial number of Odinists…including you. Woden, Odin, Godin, Gott, God, are all the same Teutonic name that you honor every Woden’s Day, such as today. You’ve said it, and that means Yahweh is extremely pissed at you, because you’ve got “other gods before you.” Tomorrow you will too, when you bring honor to Thor’s Day by saying his name. If you think you’re slippin’ into that fancy condo in Jewheaven’s New Jerusalem, you’re quite mistaken. Your unfaithful (to Yahweh) ass is getting kicked right into Hell.

    Where I’ll be. My understanding of it is that there’s beer, babes, and bratwurst for all comers! P-A-R-T-whY? Because I gotta! See ya in Hell, bro.

    The dead in Hel spend their time doing the same kinds of things that Viking Age men and women did: eating, drinking, fighting, sleeping, and so forth.
    Norse Mythology for Smart People: Hel
    https://norse-mythology.org/cosmology/the-nine-worlds/helheim/

    If you’re going to use the pagan terms of your ancestors, don’t you think it’s better to revere those ancestors, than believe Jewish tales that have maliciously smeared your ancestor’s tales?

  112. Alden says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    It’s not just Zorasterian, but other Persian off shoots such as Manichaeism and especially the very popular Mithrasism that’s the real roots of Christianity. Even the Pope’s and bishop’s hats are Persian and Christmas Day and holy water and the basic Christian service. The Persian and Jewish religions combined. Then the reformation dove into the sex and violence of the Jewish religion. If cheap printed pornography had been around in 1500 would the reformation ever have happened?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Grace Poole
  113. anon[396] • Disclaimer says:

    “A substantial number of Odinists…including you. Woden, Odin, Godin, Gott, God, are all the same Teutonic name that you honor every Woden’s Day.”

    No, not including me. Writing the word “Thursday” doesn’t mean I’m a worshiper of Thor. Just because Jupiter is named after a Roman god doesn’t make me polytheistic.

    “that you honor every Woden’s Day”

    To “honor” requires intent.

    • Replies: @anon
  114. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Beckow

    Bradley was an anthropologist who made assumptions from data. We can argue about the data, but he has a compelling argument.

    Neanderthals were absorbed, but at what concentration levels? Latent physical characteristics that deviate from cro-magnon and point at neanderthal are obvious to anthropologists, and these neanderthal characteristics are prevalent in the middle east.

    There were two “thall” immigration waves from the Caucasus mountains down into the area between Black and Caspian sea, and further onward toward middle east. Bradley suggests there was probably some sort of intermixing in the region originally, and after fourth ice ages, there was a larger west to east movement of Cro-Magnon’s to the area. This latest wave had already domesticated cattle at this point in history (about 13000 years ago).

    The overt physiognomy of Semite speaking tribes does have latent Neanderthal characteristics, including being hirsute.

    Since when is being hairy a preferred evolutionary characteristic for warm climates? How about the long hooked noses designed to pre-heat cold air? How is the hooked nose useful in the hot middle east.

    The Bible codes for separation, with “hairy” Esau being an abomination. Legend survives for millennia, and then gets written down with adoption of written language. Hairy Esau may have been in middle east 30,000 years ago, and Neanderthal skeletons have been found in the region.

    The “Jew” and middle eastern miasma could be genetic, as these people carry defective brains with overactive amygdala. The next question is how much of modern man is defective as well, as the genes have spread?

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Did their defective brains create psychopathic gods, or did a psychopathic god create them?

    The Iceman Inheritance, by Bradley

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Beckow
  115. PADOJO says:

    Could anyone please explain exactly who and or what the Jews are impersonating/immatating? Annunaki or some pedigree from Ur of the Chaldes? The impression is thus: a lousy Led Zepplin cover band claiming to be the real four guys from Led Zepplin and from there on demanding (their) royalty checks on a monthly basis. Is it not true that Jews are simply 100% deception in all that they conspire to do? All on the down low until the point of saturation (McChalias-Menten equation in biochemistry)…then loose their butt and it’s “Oh so surprised, oh so victimized”. We ain’t buying it, tribe. No. Nobody seems to know who these imposters are immataing…the ‘giants on the earth in those days crowd’? Who? I will say one thing…if there ever were an election like these people claim, the last thing the elected would do is boast about it. It would be of use in some official capacity and become self-evident. Jews are simply playing Jacob to brother Esau.

  116. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Freud has a mouth cancer ,due to heavy smoking , he suffered a lot , and at the end he was given a high dose of morfine by a friend to relieve te pain ? to end his pains ?

    https://www.milenio.com/cultura/los-vicios-de-freud-y-su-suicidio-asistido

  117. anon[396] • Disclaimer says:

    “that you honor every Woden’s Day”

    The Japanese put Christmas decorations up in their major cities every December. Are they Christians now?

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  118. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    You conveniently leave out that Jefferson’s hostility was towards “the clergy,” “especially the Episcopalians & Congregationalists.” A fuller quote reveals the context.

    “…had given to the clergy a very favorite hope of obtaining an establishment of a particular form of Christianity thro’ the US. and as every sect believes it’s own form the true one, every one perhaps hoped for it’s own: but especially the Episcopalians & Congregationalists. the returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes, & they believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: & enough too in their opinion, & this is the cause of their printing lying pamphlets against me…”

    –Thomas Jefferson, letter to Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800

    Are you still good with Jefferson’s eternal hostility towards the clergy?

    • Replies: @homahr
  119. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    > One doesn’t need to know a lick of the OT to to know Christ.

    What’s a Passover, mommy?

    • 1 Cor. 5:7 “Christ, our ✡Passover✡ lamb, has been sacrificed.”

    What’s a Circumcision, mommy?

    • Philippians 3:3 “For it is we who are the ✡Circumcision✡.”

    One doesn’t need to know a lick of the Jewsus to be White.

    It’s OK to be White. And uncut in your heart. Metaphorically speaking. 🙂

  120. kikz says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    dear dear.. you suffer from conflation derangement syndrome, like too many others. you conflate not only the term but its meaning in time; confusing the Founders’ eras’ definition of man (back to the Magna Carta (Freeborn, Reasoned)) – with the modern definition, man as simply a taxonomic bipedal naked ape entity, or further describing sex/genitalia as identifier of sex. and for simplification purposes, we’re excluding any ‘trans’ anything from the argument.

    Man, as concept and defined in Jefferson’s day was not solely a taxonomic, biological entity; but encompassed Reasoned mind as well. there has been a recorded distinction between free born men and others (villien) back into the dim mists of time.

    i’ll give you a more current perspective from a famous Choctaw Chief, Pushmataha (decorated US General), on the condition of black ‘white gloved’ houseservant/slaves he observed present in the dining room of the then Lt. Gov of MS where he took a meal as invited guest of the state; loosely nut-shelled….such a ‘man’ may have had no immediate choice in becoming a slave, but as he remains one, he deserves his servitude, for he is no Man.

    the tyranny of slavery… to many masters… begins in the mind.

  121. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Grace Poole

    In it he argued that America’s retreat from the world stage has resulted in the rise of five new powers – Russia, China, Turkey, Iran, and Sunni radical groups – that threaten Western values

    Our “international” zionist masters funded the Saudi’s into existence using Lawrence of Arabia style MI6 operations.

    Radical Sunni Wahhabism was codified as a state religion. The new Saudi Kings ostensibly became the seat of Islam, and said Kings were sanctioned by Wahhabi salafist religion.

    Sunni radical groups work hand in glove with (((Western Elites))). Saudi money even built Madrassas in order to radicalize Chechens, to then destabilize Russia.

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all about neo-cohen nicompoops perverting reality to emit their hypnosis. It is what they do. They force fit reality to meet the expectations of their overactive imaginations.

    Iranians are more Cro-Magnon, and even call themselves Aryan. Iran is a derivation of Aryan in order to signal to the West they are not part of the middle east. Iranian Shia are constantly under attack by aggressive Sunni’s, especially the Takfiri’s funded by Saudi money.

    In racial terms, Iran is more of a friend to the West than Semitic middle east.

    The West (via Judeo-Christianity and Zionist-Christianity) somehow thinks that Jews are to be protected, as the host has been duped to protect its parasite. The West has also befriended Saudi and middle east via corporate banking system, which in turn is a construct devised by our (((friends))). You have to understand how Bank of England came into being to get this connection. I discuss this event in other posts here at UR.

    Who needs enemies when you have ((friends)) like these.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  122. anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    “Thank god for “saner heads”, like yourself , with their mythical “third way” and all that jazz.”

    Yeah, because you guys have had rip-roaring success lately /s. I guess we should just keep it up and any day now things will get better. Record suicide rate, fewer freedoms, corrupt and broken government, impending police state, soaring debt, fiscal problems, collapsing birth rate, falling life expectancy, endless wars, … real track record you got there bud.

    ““extreme market-capitalism” ? Kripes! We can’t have that now , can we?”

    Ideally, no.

    US under market capitalism: crap healthcare, works longer hours than Europeans with fewer public services to show for it, soaring public debt, stagnant wages, nearly all economic growth going to the rich, mass immigration, political correctness, banks banning people for naughty opinions, corporate media mergers that put freedom of speech under control of a few people, a tax bill that expires tax-cuts for the middle-class but keeps tax cuts for the rich permanently, endless war, growing corporate monopolies …

    “I mean, whatever next – a real constitutionally limited federal government reduced to 5% of its current size that had no way to interfere in any part of the marketplace?”

    …which is really stupid. A great recipe for graft and price-gouging. It’s not like that kind of excess ever did anything bad like cause a huge housing crisis within memory, right? Yes, please encourage republicans to run on such a dumb proposal. I’m sure you’ll win the election just like Mitt Romney did. And it’s not like China isn’t already eating your lunch with their superior economic system so badly the US is throwing fits to keep Huawei out of Europe because their “marketplace” can’t compete. I’m sure the Chinese are shaking in their boots.

    • Replies: @anon
  123. anon[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Al Goldstein, who published Screw magazine, stated, ““The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism.”

    actually they seem to love authoritarianism as long as they are the authority

  124. renfro says:

    You should be concentrating on the Jews of today.
    If you weren’t already a all American anti-Semite you will be after you read their plan to wipe out all religions and cultures and memories of anything not Jewish.
    For you religious people you should see what they have planned for you……and they plan to have this all financed by:
    ”» Each country should fund the fight against antisemitism with 0.02% of
    its Gross Domestic Product annually.
    » Each group, organization, and institution should spend 1% of its budget
    to fight antisemitism inside its own context annually.”

    An End to Antisemitism!
    a catalogue of policies to combat Antisemitism

    Based on the contributions of participants to the
    international conference “An End to Antisemitism!”, Vienna, February 2018,
    organized by the European Jewish Congress, New York University,
    Tel Aviv University and the University of Vienna.

    https://anendtoantisemitism.univie.ac.at/fileadmin/user_upload/p_anendtoantisemitism/PDF/Catalogue_FINAL_webversion_complete.pdf

    • Agree: wayfarer
    • Replies: @wayfarer
  125. anon[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    The “Jew” and middle eastern miasma could be genetic, as these people carry defective brains with overactive amygdala. The next question is how much of modern man is defective as well, as the genes have spread?

    i think i have this too

    hope i’m not a jew 🙁

  126. anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    “By using the OT as a basis Westerners have surrendered themselves onto someone elses founding myths, beliefs, and exceptionalism. It is not our people’s history. It is their history and their god.”

    THIS. Those who control the past control the present and make the future. If you don’t control your own past, someone else will control your future for you. Evangelical Christians have let the religious text of another group brainwash them into blindly supporting that group against their own self-interests. That’s why they’ve been convinced to be so fanatically pro-Israel even though they get nothing out of it. It’s time to end that. Jews reformed, so why can’t Christians? The OT is an outdated religious text superseded by the NT. It should go.

  127. renfro says:

    From the Jews with love…

    ‘Antisemitic contents of the world’s cultural and religious memories
    have to be replaced by positive contents about Judaism
    and an accurate
    depiction the history of antisemitism. In addition, the voices of
    all victims of antisemitism have to become part of the cultural and
    religious memories of the world.
    For both the short-term suppression and the long-term eradication of
    antisemitism, the most important strategies and recommendations of the
    present catalogue concern the role of governmental entities, the role of the
    religious and cultural heritage of our world, the work of educational institutions,
    and the need for exposure to living Judaism.
    The fight against antisemitism by governmental and nongovernmental
    entities

    [MORE]

    » All countries, societies, religious, cultural, internet-related, academic,
    educational, media and entertainment, business, political or governmental
    groups, organizations, and institutions should endorse and apply
    the Working Defi nition of Antisemitism (WDA) of the International
    Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA).
    » The fight against antisemitism should be embodied in the legislation
    of each country in an irrevocable way, ideally in the framework of its
    constitution.

    » Legislatures need to create a legal framework to combat antisemitism
    eff ectively. For this purpose, existing laws need to be strengthened and,
    if necessary, new laws need to be created that further the fi ght against
    antisemitism.
    » Given the internationalization of on- and offl ine media, the fi ght against
    antisemitism can only be successful when it becomes a focus of foreign
    policy and international and transnational political entities such as the
    European Union and the United Nations.
    » Governments and intergovernmental organizations should condemn the
    blatant state-sanctioned antisemitism that exists in a number of countries,
    such as Iran.
    » All countries and international organizations should appoint an envoy
    for combating antisemitism.
    » Depending on its size, each country needs at least one, if not more,
    independent institutes for antisemitism studies.
    » Each country should fund the fight against antisemitism with 0.02% of
    its Gross Domestic Product annually.
    » Each group, organization, and institution should spend 1% of its budget
    to fight antisemitism inside its own context annually.
    » People who express or hold antisemitic views should not be allowed to
    occupy positions of power or to become cultural, religious, academic, or
    educational infl uencers and multipliers.
    » Elites, decision makers, and influencers need to provide positive role
    models in the fi ght against antisemitism.
    › They should act immediately against all manifestations of antisemitism.
    » Companies should be advised not to do business with countries or organizations
    that support antisemitism in any way.
    » Companies should reject selling or marketing antisemitic contents both
    off – and online.
    Existing antisemitic stereotypes and symbols need to be eradicated
    from the cultural and religious memories of the world
    . They should be
    identifi ed as antisemitic and not be allowed to generate new antisemitic
    contents. For this purpose, whenever possible,
    › antisemitic contents should be taken out of circulation both off – and
    online.
    › antisemitic contents in social and other media should be suppressed
    and/or removed.
    » Positive contents about Judaism in the cultural and religious memories
    of the world should be emphasized and/or added both off – and online.
    For this purpose,
    › Jewish achievements for a given society or country should be highlighted
    by memorials celebrating Jewish contributions to the world’s
    heritage.
    › Existing and new books and documentaries of high quality about
    Judaism should be translated in as many languages as possible and
    distributed in an aff ordable way or free of charge both off – and online.
    › Existing and new books and documentaries of high quality about the
    history of antisemitism from its ancient beginnings until today should
    be translated into as many languages as possible and distributed in
    an affordable way or free of charge”

    • Replies: @Dube
  128. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    Yep, Christianity is a big pagan punchbowl—shat in by the Jews. But the neat thing is, St. Paul made Christianity FALSIFIABLE! Nice of him, although it couldn’t be proven false until 1803. Click the more button to discover more:

    [MORE]

    St. Paul made his salvation scheme falsifiable, by making his concept of man’s alleged eternal soul dependent upon matter not being made of atomic elements.

    And since John Dalton’s 1803 experiment on tin oxide, we know matter is made of atomic elements. And we also know St. Paul’s salvation scheme is as obsolete as alchemy.

    It was the logic of the cross against the logic of the atom, an early phase of the long strife between science and religion.
    […]
    The whole theory of physics was reduced by Epicurus to Twelve Elementary Principles and a syllabus bearing this title was published for the use of his disciples. This list of Principles, it may be interposed, was the most lucid and orderly ever drawn up in ancient times, and with one exception would have been received with respect down to the date of an event so recent as the fission of the atom. By way of illustration the first seven are here listed with some adaptation to modern terminology:

    1. Matter is uncreatable.
    2. Matter is indestructible.
    3. The universe consists of atoms and space.
    4. All existing things are either atoms or compounds of atoms.
    5. The atoms are infinite in multitude.
    6. Space is infinite in extent.
    7. The atoms are always in action.

    As was bound to happen, this whole system became known to the enemies of Epicurus by that particular Principle which was most offensive and provocative of ridicule, the third. This was offensive because it implied that the soul of man itself was composed of atoms, just as the body itself, and therefore subject to dissolution, just as the body. It was especially open to ridicule because the atoms were such insignificant things upon which to base a whole system of knowledge. In Galatians 4:9 Paul sneered at them as “the weak and beggarly elements.”
    […]
    Under the name of elements the atoms are mentioned six times in the New Testament, three times simply as elements and three times as “elements of the universe,” an unmistakable recognition of the third Elementary Principle of Epicurus: “The universe consists of atoms and space.”

    Norman Dewitt (1954) St. Paul and Epicurus. University of Minnesota Press.
    https://muse.jhu.edu/books/9780816662135

    P.S. Anti-science Rabbi Paul also mocks “atoms.” Yes, the Greek term for atom is in the New Testament, used in an anti-science, mocking tone in 1 Corinthians 15:52. Not much has changed in 2000 years, with Christianity dragged kicking and screaming into the White man’s Scientific Era.

  129. ababush says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    “It is time for a religion based on today’s knowledge and today’s morality to come into being.”

    The only problem is that today’s morality is mainly jewish: pornography, birth control, drugs, organs trafficking, mortgages, trans-humanism, greed, pedophilia, minorities power etc..

    Are you ready for Noachism?

    • Replies: @Johnny F. Ive
  130. renfro says:

    ” »» Removing the authority of antisemitic role models such as saints or
    highly respected authorities that provide guidance to the members of
    a religious group or institutions Examples include John Chrysostom,
    Martin Luther and others.
    »» Removing antisemitism from the religious laws and doctrines of a religious
    group or organization.
    »» Removing antisemitism from the private beliefs of the members of a
    religious group or organization.

    »» No new memorials should be erected for any antisemites. Existing
    memorials, such as the one to Karl Lueger in Vienna, need to be demolished.
    »» Antisemitic artwork at churches and other places needs to be removed,
    »» Antisemitic artwork should not be displayed in museums and exhibitions.
    Antisemitic music and plays should not be performed in opera
    houses or theaters.
    »» The measures regarding antisemitic naming practices, antisemitic
    artwork, memorials to antisemites, etc. cannot be restricted to modern
    times but need to include antisemites and antisemitic art from all
    periods.
    »» Plaques should explain changed names, removed memorials, and
    removed art.
    ››Memorials should be created to celebrate Jewish contributions to the
    world’s heritage.
    ››Streets, places, parks, houses, universities, schools, etc. should be
    named after Jewish persons of achievement.
    ››Memorials should be erected for Jewish persons of achievement

  131. anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    “What’s a Passover, mommy? .. 1 Cor. 5:7 “Christ, our ✡Passover✡ lamb, has been sacrificed.”

    What exactly prevents someone from using another source to define the word or simply removing the word “Passover” all together? Don’t newer translations of the bible using modern vocabulary do something very similar anyway?

    “What’s a Circumcision, mommy? … Philippians 3:3 “For it is we who are the ✡Circumcision✡.”

    >Does Google search. Finds answer without referring to Old Testament. Slaps forehead. “Of course. Why didn’t someone tell me I could do that?”

    “One doesn’t need to know a lick of the Jewsus to be White.”

    Worked well at Charlottesville … oh. Turns out “white” is sorta broad and not something most Caucasians will ever rally around. Good luck with that, though.

    • Replies: @anon
  132. ababush says:
    @Vojkan

    I would love to agree with you, but how is it then that the main target of the “isms” (judaism and masonism) seems to have been for ages the catholic church?

    “When Louis XVI was executed, half of the work was done and so, from then, the Temple’s army had to focus its fighting forces against Papacy.” Albert Pike

  133. renfro says:

    »» Creating new cultural organizations and institutions out of the public
    budget (recommended in this catalogue, see p. 119–20), dedicated to
    the education and enlightenment of the general public about Judaism
    and the fight against antisemitism.
    The monitoring of antisemitism online is the responsibility of governments
    and should not be left to the activities of NGOs. Governments
    and international bodies should finance and encourage the finding
    of a solution to the monitoring of antisemitism on the Web. A good
    practice example is the Anti-Semitism Cyber Monitoring System of the
    Israeli Diaspora Ministry. Each country should have a similar system to
    monitor antisemitism online.
    »» Buildings, streets, ships, army barracks, universities, etc. should not be
    named after antisemites. Designations of existing houses, streets, ships,
    etc. that are named after antisemites need to be changed.
    »» Media outlets that propagate antisemitic stereotypes or antisemitism
    regularly should be closed and prohibited.
    »» At regular intervals, media outlets and other cultural organizations and
    institutions should publish and broadcast documentaries educating the
    general public about the false claims of antisemitic propaganda and
    slander. Museums and exhibition halls should do the same with exhibitions.
    »» The continuing education of cultural decision makers and influencers
    should include the history, culture, and religion of Judaism as well as
    the history of antisemitism.
    »» For new employees of a cultural organization or institution, it should be
    a mandatory requirement for their appointment to have taken classes in
    the history, culture, and religion of Judaism as well as in the history of
    antisemitism.

  134. anon[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    And it’s not like China isn’t already eating your lunch with their superior economic system so badly the US is throwing fits to keep Huawei out of Europe because their “marketplace” can’t compete. I’m sure the Chinese are shaking in their boots.

    the Chinese govt actually cares about their people to some degree

    i cant say the same about whats going on in the west

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  135. Republic says:
    @Che Guava

    In the Roman Catholic Church, of course, it goes back to the heavily Jewish-influenced Vatican II.

    Dr E Michael Jones is the expert regarding the Jewish takeover at Vatican II. The Catholics entered into a fatal dialogue with the Jews and then lost control of their church.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  136. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:

    “Then the New Testament was written by Hasbara. Read this example:”

    I guess Einstein was a Nazi then. Well, he was German … oh. I guess context is important.

    “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.” John 4:22

    Not really sure what you meant with that. Looks like you posted it because it had the word “Jew” in it. The context comes from the tale of Jesus and the Samaritan Woman; he convinces a woman that he’s the Messiah and a new way of worship is arriving, not through the old ways – specifically through him.

    Here is the context of the passage which you spliced your comment from:

    “‘Believe Me, woman,’ Jesus replied, ‘a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. But a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father is seeking such as these to worship Him. God is Spirit, and His worshipers must worship Him in spirit and in truth. he woman said, ‘I know that Messiah is coming. When He comes, He will explain everything to us.’ Jesus answered, “I who speak to you am He.’”

    Did you miss that part about true worshipers, eh? He wasn’t saying bow down to the Jews. He was coming to overthrow the old Jewish ways, which is why they killed him.

    https://biblehub.com/bsb/john/4.htm

    “And the catechism must have been written by Hasbara too!”

    (see above)

    “Jesus’ Jewishness is like a turd in a punchbowl. Try as you may to remove chunks, you just can never clear the stink. Christianity stinks of Jew worship, even if the theologians hide the big floaters in the trash can.”

    To all normie dissidents: This is why the protestors lost at Charlottesville, and this is why so many normies allied against them. You guys should really work to purge these losers from your ranks. Normal people don’t want to associate with this kind of stuff. It’s a dead end for deadenders.

  137. ababush says:
    @UncommonGround

    “maybe both religions and communities could find a common ground.”

    Talmudic Judaism is mainly a tribal supremacism. No common ground is possible with the gentiles, except if the gentiles accept to be enslaved.

  138. Moi says:
    @obwandiyag

    Yeshua was also the first name of Barabbas. And the name Barabbas means son of the father. Thus we have Yeshua bar (son) abba (father). Abba means fatherin Aramaic.

  139. ababush says:
    @Isidora

    “The key to the Hebrews’ actual chosen-ness is the Virgin Mary. The Hebrew nation was chosen to bring her into the world. Period.”

    Could you elaborate for miscreants? thank you.

  140. homahr says:
    @anon

    Elitecom is a typical jew-worshiping liar who supports the pedophiles and rapists who rule Saudi Arabia.

  141. Druid says:
    @X

    Their bad luck is engineered by the yahwehites/talmudists

  142. One Tribe says:

    Thank you Laurent Guyénot, for preparing this material, and Ron Unz for providing a means of distribution.

    Being a more and more dedicated non-believer to (especially) any of the so-called western monotheistic traditions, I am so amazed to see the almost complete abscondence from rational deconstructive analysis.

    Clearly, all of these western monotheistic traditions were constructed as propaganda/indoctrination tools to establish and consolidate power structures… of humans over humans.

    In any way using them (western monotheistic traditions) in a supposed rational analysis subordinates them to the inherent irrationality they embody.

    I am amazed that the cognitive horsepower on display in the comments here, and associated with many other articles here on the Unz review, is so subordinated!

    It’s quite disparaging.

    Nonetheless…

    … there are clear trends affecting global human civilization, and thus the entire biosphere, which are worth noting, I extract from the article and other studies, notably of works by Douglas Reed and Michael A. Hoffman.

    1. There is an enduring extra-national affiliation, bound only by shared adherence to a value/belief structure, forming an ideology, which at its core, promotes hatred against humanity, using an approach of promising superior upward social mobility in exchange for ultimate loyalty to the affiliation/collective, and an enforced requirement to do the affiliations bidding, under circumstances decided upon by the control structure of the affiliation

    2. Historical documentation, while understood to have been moderated by various political forces, including the aforementioned affiliation, strongly suggest that the fortunes of this affiliation has vacillated between:

    2.1 thriving by gaining entrenched systematic advantages over other populations, typically by extra-judicial methods of suasion, and promotion of distorted messaging to the larger population (i.e. the so-called Balfour declaration), and,

    2.2 negative pressures severely curtailing the affiliation’s programs to maintain (the myth/real) superior upward social mobility of adherents, typically this turn of facility has resulted from egregious and hubristic activities by one or more affiliates and/or of the majority/critical minority of the collective’s adherents as a whole, such that the subordinated status of the majority of the population, ex-collective, and lower social mobility prospects are undisguisable from this majority of the population.

    3. One can review contemporary historical trends (1800-present), assuming the same editorial factors, and yet observe the growth of the influence and promotion of the aforementioned affiliation, need we look beyond the overt control of the acknowledged most powerful geopolitical entity (i.e. the U.S.A.), by tiny minority of affiliates of the extra-national collective, and how control, contrary to the best interests of the citizens, is enacted on a daily basis, and deduce that the collective has reached another peak in its suasion

    There are however, some critical factors which are relevant to this latest peak of subversive capability of the affiliation/collective:
    I. global over-population threatening the biosphere
    II. proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (nuclear, bio-genetic, AI, which endanger biosphere viability
    III. new methods of perception management, which are analogous to comparing a firecracker to a nuclear bomb in capability

    Therefore, we live in a time of extreme threat, by a, to large extent, secret conspiracy, which hates all, and is ultimately rabidly obsessed with winning or destroying all…
    … and in ‘winning’ would destroy all!

    Resisting this menace is NOT an anti-social, let alone criminal activity, it is survival.

    Wake up!

  143. Anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    Simply superb. BRAVO again and again Laurent Guyénot – you truly serve humanity and all life on earth and beyond.

  144. Hard to believe that all the troubles of the world are based on fables for the masses by the tales of the crazies.

    You don’t need religion to believe in a creator; in fact, religions destroy and interfere the obvious perfection of the world, and that we are surrounded by a total miracle.

  145. Beckow says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    …these Neanderthal characteristics are prevalent in the middle east.

    Some are, some are not. Neanderthals had large heads and brains and were were generally stocky based on their bones, that is not a classical Middle Eastern look. One finds it more in some European countries e.g. around Alps. Being hirsute could have different origins, people in South Asia-India are also very hirsute and have close to zero Neanderthal DNA. Protecting skin in dry, hot desert weather can lead to hair cover. Large nose moisturizes nostrils and air – the main small to large nose division worldwide is between wet and dry places, and not hot and cold.

    middle eastern miasma could be genetic, as these people carry defective brains with overactive amygdala

    They are irritable and volatile. They talk a lot. But to label it ‘defective’ is unscientific, that is a judgment call. There are evolutionary advantages to high stress, anxiety and high fear factor. That characteristic is also much more widespread around the world and not limited to Middle East. Many Mediterranean people have it, so do many Irish. Is there a Celtic link? Celts are also stocky and have big heads.

    overt physiognomy of Semite speaking tribes does have latent Neanderthal characteristics, including being hirsute

    Semites originated in the Arabian peninsula and are more concentrated down south around Yemen, They are very closely related to North Eastern Africa – Ethiopia, Somalia, Egypt. When they spread north and west they mixed with previous population – ancient Hebrews are a result of that mixing in the region of today’s Palestine. They are genetically mostly Semites (with obvious mixing over thousands of years), and culturally they carry an ancient tribal myth that almost certainly originate on the northern coast of the Indian Ocean. If we would talk to ancient Sumerians and Elamites they would relate to the Old Testament stories.

    It is also unlikely and counter-intuitive to propose immigration waves from the Caucasus mountains – people settled in lower areas, flat lands and river valleys. Then they moved up to the mountains.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @MEFOBILLS
  146. Cleburne says:
    @Vojkan

    Great post. Can I trouble you to elaborate on your idea that the Orthodox think like Berdyaev without necessarily having read Berdyaev?

    I am Russian Orthodox (long story – my grandma, from the very minor nobility, escaped the Bolsheviks with Wrangel and ended up in the Deep South, where she met my grandad, a civil engineer of old Anglo-Celtic stock) and now more than ever before I appreciate the clear-headedness of the Orthodox with respect to the JQ.

  147. Jake says:

    An important reason this article has so many comments is that Laurent Guyenot writes things that any French Freemason would approve.

    France is dying a suicide precisely because Freemasons got the Revolution they wanted. If France does not repent for The Revolution, which will require a widespread return to pre-Vatican II Catholicism, France will die a suicide.

  148. Utter and complete nonsense. He was contention was not only to clergy but anyone who thought they could dictate the mind of others . . .

    There’s just one problem — he owned slaves and by owning said men (human beings) he placed himself in direct opposition to his own philosophical position on controlling others — worse he did so on the premier issue of freedom.

    Get a grip, the founders were not perfect men. They made and held ideological in consistencies.

    • Replies: @anon
  149. @anon

    anon, I come from Olde Tyme Catholic POV — not quite 1891, but still, an era in Catholic teaching where ‘we didn’t do bible.’

    But I’m pretty sure Romans = Paul, right?

    I never much liked Paul, except for his writing on Love — that was effective writing.
    But why would anyone trust a Jew to teach about how to be a not-Jew?

    (But to be honest, I was not a big fan of Augustine, either; thought he was a libertine & opportunist who “got religion” when it was useful to his career. Yet, he did more to shape RCism than many others. Too bad so much of Marcion was trashed; he sounds like my kind of religionist.)

    In those Olde Tyme Catholic days, hearing the Psalms in Gregorian chant in Latin seemed sublime.

    Since then, and w/ the Church doing away with Latin, reading what some of those psalms say is pretty disgusting.
    I understand Benedict started the practice of monks chanting the Divine Office.
    What was he thinking? He was Roman; he could understand the Latin. Did he advocate smashing kids’ brains against the rocks? Did he get his rocks off thru triumphalism and stomping on the “adversary.”
    “Spiritual warfare” imagery my arse; Dante provided far more effective imagery.

    I await the resurrection of Walter Grundmann and Thomas Jefferson, and the life of the world to come without Abraham, Moses, Noah, Jacob, and the whole OT shebang.
    Nobody needs the OT.
    Bring back that new time religion.

    PS how can anyone keep a straight face & argue that the NT is the “fulfillment” of the OT; that the OT “prefigured” the NT.

    Goshes, how in the world did that ever happen?

    Dick Wolf read yesterday’s police blotter then produced Law and Order.

    Law and Order is the fulfillment of the police blotter.
    It’s a miracle!

  150. “Man, as concept and defined in Jefferson’s day was not solely a taxonomic, biological entity; but encompassed Reasoned mind as well. there has been a recorded distinction between free born men and others (villien) back into the dim mists of time.”

    Laughing.

    The philosophical and legalistic rhetorical gymnastics so as to make many talmudic scholars proud. I am ever amazed for all of the whining about jews and their tactics how many complainers use the very devices they whine about in an attempt to score points.

    Good grief.

    Here’s President Jefferson’s position on slavery and more importantly his view of slaves as human beings, even black slaves.

    “He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the Christian King of Great Britain. Determined to keep open a market where Men should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or restrain this execrable commerce. And that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people on whom he has obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed again the Liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.”

    Note he calls the matter criminal. The above is the deleted portion of the early draft of the Declaration of Independence.

    “He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. ”

    He literally calls it a cruel war against human nature. Whether he considered said slaves as civilized as himself is simply not the point. He acknowledges them as human beings, he acknowledges that said practice is wrong, against nature — intellectual he recognizes them as individuals with minds their own, but when it came to losing some money by freeing them to put right his own philosophy and conscience into practice he fails.

    No conflation neccessary, just an honest rendering of the facts in question and the words of the man himself.

    Even President Jefferson rejects your assessment of humanity. He did not see blacks as unreasoned. He even acknowledges the value of their liberty and freedom by his complaint that the king hindered them from purchasing their freedom —-

    It’s clearly about the money.

    Note: this passage was hotly debated and nearly sank the Declaration in the Continental Congress — it was deleted that the measure would be adopted by all. Apparently, plenty of the founders found that blacks were indeed people and valued as reasoning beings.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @anon
  151. ” . . . on the condition of black ‘white gloved’ houseservant/slaves he observed present in the dining room of the then Lt. Gov of MS where he took a meal as invited guest of the state; loosely nut-shelled….such a ‘man’ may have had no immediate choice in becoming a slave, but as he remains one, he deserves his servitude, for he is no Man.”

    Well, suppose one actually adopted this contention on its face. Then it renders the revolutionary war causes merely figments of the imagination in the colonial mind and that war was unnecessary. I really appreciate the theatrical skills of Shirley McLaine, but one should be careful adopting her philosophies.

    The case of slavery for blacks in the colonial power game was not in the minds of the slaves. it was a real physical manifestation.

    Chains, whips, dipping, maiming and a host of assorted physical nonimaginary practices made the point even unto death.

  152. correction:

    Utter and complete nonsense. His contention was not only to clergy but anyone who thought they could dictate the mind of others . . .

  153. It makes sense that this author choose to side with an infamous heretic (and gnostic) Marcion.

    Jesus Christ is a Greek Heroic myth, is a cataclysmic absurdity advanced by this crackpot.

    Maybe the author can explain how over 300 prophecies fulfilled by Jesus can be found in the Old Testament.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  154. @ababush

    Those things are prevalent today but supremacy and colonial settlerism have no place in modern morality. I think some of the things you list would be in the West anyway. I think trans-humanism is Western. The bible has nothing to do with Science unlike Greek philosophy. Western historical figures are being reevaluated and are being rejected because of colonial settlerism and slavery. I don’t think Israel will be immune to this since it is supremacist and a colonial-settler enterprise. Israel supporters have a Muslim minority to contend with in the West. The Palestinians are the oppressed and weaker indigenous people while the Israelis are the supremacist and colonial settlers. The optics look bad.

    Noachism looks like a desperate attempt at keeping the false history in the OT alive. I’ll take Utnapishtim or Atrahasis over Noah any day.

    • Replies: @ababush
  155. Sparkon says:
    @Beckow

    Neanderthals had large heads and brains and were were generally stocky based on their bones,

    Much the same is true of Cro Magnon Man, or Early European Modern Humans (EEMH), the earliest Homo sapiens. Cro Magnons also didn’t get many dental carries (cavities), and apparently were not plagued by arthritis, possibly because of the hunter gatherer lifestyle.

    There is a fascinating theory or theories that humans domesticated themselves with the development and widespread adoption of agriculture, where we are as a result about 10-15% smaller physically and in brain size than our immediate Cro Magnon forebears.

    Domesticated animals are usually at least 12-15% smaller than their wild counterparts, and domesticated animals commonly turn white, or have white blotches, along with other physical changes. Dogs have brains 30% smaller than wolves, according to the article:

    https://aeon.co/essays/how-domestication-changes-species-including-the-human

  156. Had Marcionism prevailed, Christianity would have broken with Judaism, which might have withered in a few centuries

    A.D. 70, after the destruction of Jerusalem as a punishment for Deicide, Rabbinical Judaism formed as opposition to the universal Church because many Jews accepted the fullness of Divine Revelation – the first Catholics were Jews and there has only ever been one religion- the religion of Jesus Christ.

    The God of the Old Testament is the same as the God of the New Testament and your blindness to that is owing to your materialistic orientation and rejection of the Creed.

    You have run oft to follow other authorities – authorities who have no authority at all.

    Yes, it is all a little too much truth for one whose hatred of the one true church is palpable.

    But,as the kids say – whatever.

    • Replies: @anon
  157. ” . . . is a typical jew-worshiping liar who supports the pedophiles and rapists who rule Saudi Arabia.”

    What I support is sovereignty. While I may not approve of what happens inside another country and even on rare occasion might consider interventions (very rare and in extreme circumstances)

    Countries are entitled to run their affairs as they see fit. If you have evidence that i engage in lying bring it forward. As for jew worship —

    this is an old trope long since been decimated, shredded and tossed into the trash heap.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @homahr
  158. wayfarer says:
    @renfro

    As a current member and past employee, I’ve witnessed this “An End to Anti-Semitism” doctrine being enacted within the YMCA.

    It’s real spooky to observe young kids engaging in activities/programs infected with toxic anti-Christian cultural-Marxist ideologies.

    To better understand the nature of this evil agenda, one can always read,
    “Revolutionary Methods for Political Control.”

    • Replies: @anon
  159. @MEFOBILLS

    Is this Michael Bradley linked to the Black Hebrews (or whatever they call themselves) that tormented Nick Sanderman in Washington, DC?

    Who is the Black man, dedicated to “exposing” white supremacism, who is pushing the Neanderthal, and “west before east” theses?

    Don’t know enough to comment on “Iranians are more Cro-Magnon,” but certainly, they “even call themselves Aryan.”

    agree that

    ” Iran is a derivation of Aryan in order to signal to the West they are not part of the middle east. Iranian Shia are constantly under attack by aggressive Sunni’s, especially the Takfiri’s funded by Saudi money.

    In racial terms, Iran is more of a friend to the West than Semitic middle east.”

  160. The first mention of the form of hosts is found in St. Epiphanius in the fourth century when he says: “hoc est enim rotundae formae”, but the fact had already been placed on record by catacomb paintings and by very ancient bas-reliefs. Unity of form and size was only slowly established, and different customs prevailed in different provinces. At an early date the councils attempted to introduce uniformity on this point; one held at Arles in 554 ordered all the bishops of that province to use hosts of the same form as those used in the church of Arles. According to Mabillon, as early as the sixth century hosts were as small and thin as now, and it is stated that from the eighth century it was customary to bless small hosts intended for the faithful, an advantageous measure which dispensed with breaking the host and consequently prevented the crumbling that ensued.

    But this author claims such a custom developed only centuries later.

    He also seems ignorant that this custom of The Latin Rite Catholic Church is different from The Eastern Rite Catholic Church which used leavened bread as hosts but the once constant theme in these faith bashing posts is the poor quality of research and the heavy reliance on heterodox sources

  161. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Do you really think freeing Africans into our society was such a good idea? Jefferson didn’t, and for good reason, as we’re seeing. He said this of blacks: “But as it is, we have a wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. (letter to John Holmes, April 22, 1820) That has turned out to be absolutely true. He was closer to perfect than your bleeding-heart Leftoidism, Jew-worshiper.

  162. @MEFOBILLS

    Little bit of background on Michael Bradley and his writings:

    from the book jacket, The Iceman Inheritance:

    “Michael Bradley delves back into our glacial past duringthe last Ice Age in order to find the prehistoric sources of thewhite race’s aggression, racism and sexism. Relying on theresearches of Alexander Marshack, Carleton Coon, KonradLorenz, S.L. Washburn, Ralph Solecki and others, Bradleyoffers a persuasive argument that the white race, the Neanderthal-Caucasoids, are more aggressive than other groups because of ancient sexual maladaption. And, in tracing the effects of Caucasian aggression, Bradley offers an uncomfortable and all-too-plausible explanation for the pattern of human history.
    . . .
    Then, in early 1981, someone figured out the implications for
    Jews in the book’s presentation of evidence…

    I had never considered this myself because it had been a longtime since I had taken my own Jewish origins into any account. I
    had never even thought about any “Jewish implications” of the
    book. Neither did the Jewish publisher of the original Canadianedition, Larry Goldstein. And, obviously, Dr. Judith Posner had
    not thought about any “Jewish implications” either when she
    wrote an Introduction for
    The Iceman Inheritance
    unless, of course, courageous Judy Posner simply had more affinity withall of humanity than with her own ethnic group. Jews were blandly mentioned on half a page in the 226-page book.

    After 1981, some bookstores that had formerly carried the book were threatened with boycott and fire-bombing by Jewish pressure groups.

    Warnings by Jewish anthropologists and complaints by Jewish pressure groups caused Warner Books to drop the book almostinstantly, in breach of contract. But my rights to find another publisher were not immediately returned to me as is usually thecase in such situations and is also the normal industry practice.Warner Books wanted to co-operate in the strategy of making
    The Iceman Inheritance totally unavailable to buyers andreaders.

    Two speaking tours by the author were cancelled because theorganizers could not guarantee my safety in view of threats of violence by the Jewish Defence League. The seriousness of thesituation was demonstrated when a Mier Kahane-inspired”

    Bradley is Jewish, a

    Several videos labeled with linkage to Michael Bradley are hosted by Black people whose emphasis is the evil of white supremacy.

    (Warning: if “white supremacy” triggers you, either don’t listen or pad all hard surfaces.)

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  163. Although I found this article very interesting and meritorious (though I am in no position right now to endorse it fully), I am of the opinion that the Christian religion is flawed even in its “original” elements, which do not refer to earlier beliefs and earlier history of the Hebrews.

    (1) Basically one cannot “love one’s enemy” without destroying oneself. Thus, “love your neighbor as yourself” means ultimately “destroy your neighbor as yourself”.

    (2) The parable of the Good Samaritan states vey clearly that your “neighbor” is the one who cares for you. Thus, “love your neighbor” is a call for reciprocity, which is the opposite of “loving your enemy”. This contradiction within the Gospels renders the Christian doctrine incomprehensible and therefore useless.

  164. AaronB says:

    1) The problem is that the point of view of Judaism is attractive. Everyone secretly desires to feel special and chosen.

    I would argue that that is why Christianity spread in the ancient world. It invited people to see themselves as special.

    All successful nations see themselves as special and chosen. The Chinese do. The Japanese do. The Romans did. The British in their imperial days did.

    2) So the attitude of Judaism will never disappear from the world, even if Judaism does.

    The message of Jesus Christ was too ethereal and one sided – no one could live like that, unless the world was about to end, as Jesus said it was.

    Christianity represents a sort of Hegelian synthesis of mans worldly nature and unworldly nature, Moses and Jesus, as you say.

    But by the late Middle Ages, the unworldly side had gone too far, and the swing went in the direction of the worldly Jewish side.

    Instead of becoming unworldly again, maybe we should find the balance.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  165. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    The God of the Old Testament is the same….which one? Elohim, deceptively translated in the singular, is plural, you know. But as the Jew-worshipers like you say, whatevah! You’d do well to read Mark Smith’s text The Origins of Biblical Monotheism: Israel’s Polytheistic Background and the Ugaritic Texts.  (Oxford University Press, 2001.) The Old Testament is far from monotheistic, especially with the extensive word-for-word plagiarism of the Ugaritic clay tablets copied into the Torah, although they do try hard. And with Jesus hearing voices from Uranus in the New Testament, well, all I can think of is Monty Python’s quip, “and now for something completely different.”

  166. Tochar says:

    This is covertly Jewish anti-Christian propaganda. The idea, here, is to slander Christianity from multiple angles – it’s Jewish psychological warfare, it’s anti-Semitism, it’s a pointless innovation on Judaism – in the hopes that the maximum amount of readers walk away feeling disgusted with Jesus and the Church.

    • Replies: @anon
  167. Vinnie O says:

    It’s been decades since I read Herodotus, but as I recall he makes a single, 1 sentence comment along the lines “The Jews are noteworthy because they believe in (only?) one god”. This appears in a section where he is quickly summarizing “Eastern” countries. Clearly, if any kings named “David” or “Solomon” had ever attracted any attention from the Phoneticians or Egyptians, Herodotus would have included “The (X) say (Y) was a great king among the Jews.”

  168. Seraphim says:
    @Alden

    Haven’t you realize so far that this Anon displays signs of dementia? Repetitiveness and inappropriate social behaviour are sure signs. No wonder that he finds in Nietzsche a kindred spirit. Probably the same causes.

    • Replies: @anon
  169. As I contemplate the lamb chop on my plate, I realise that over the last few thousand years, we have evolved to eat cooked meat and not raw. We can’t really go back. And in the same way, Christianity is so embedded in Europeans, that we can’t really go back. We barely even know what ‘back’ is.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Laurent Guyénot
    , @anon
  170. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @wayfarer

    Communist ideologies are straight up Christian. Marx lifted his famous maxim nearly word-for-word from a couple passages of the New Testament. The Jewish writers included such Bolshevist ideals as “not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them” (Acts 4:32) Ludwig von Mises wrote that “primitive Christianity is Bolshevism” and spent several pages in his text Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis (Yale, 1951) explaining why, here: Chapter 29: Religion and Social Ethics, Christianity and Socialism.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  171. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tochar

    You worship a Jew, and whenever somebody points out that you worship a Jew, you call them a Jew as if your Jewsavior’s Jewishness somehow magically evaporated. You’re psychologically projecting, and playing the same anti-Semitism game Jews play. I’m surprised you haven’t kvetched about this article being “annuddah shoah.”

    • Replies: @Cleburne
  172. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    As for jew worship — Jesus was a Jew, and if you worship him, one may logically deduce that you worship a Jew. You’re mewling apologies for your Jew-worship haven’t been as effective as you have fantasized. What you are is a Wannabee-Jew, just like Elizabeth Warren is a Wannabee-Injun. As Philippians 3:3 states “For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.” Who wants to identify as a genital mutilator, anyway? Maybe it’s your White foreskin that has long since been decimated, shredded and tossed into the trash heap, metaphorically speaking, of course.

  173. Seraphim says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Apparently Jefferson was quite appreciative of the physical charms of his black female slaves, like so many of the oh-so white slave-masters.

    • Replies: @anon
  174. utu says:

    Leo Tolstoy rejected OT.

  175. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    But he doesn’t consider blacks to be equals. He can’t even imagine them being a part of the US society and participating in our government. “Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people [blacks] are to be free. Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them.” (Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821) The original HBD prez was right.

  176. “As for jew worship — Jesus was a Jew, and if you worship him, one may logically deduce that you worship a Jew. You’re mewling apologies for your Jew-worship haven’t been as effective as you have fantasized. What you are is a Wannabee-Jew, just like Elizabeth Warren is a Wannabee-Injun. As Philippians 3:3 states “For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.” Who wants to identify as a genital mutilator, anyway? Maybe it’s your White foreskin that has long since been decimated, shredded and tossed into the trash heap, metaphorically speaking, of course.”

    I don’t imagine anything. The case is well l;aid out by the conversations. You make arguments you cannot support. You make arguments tat are contradicted by those you use as reference. And those references make it very clear that the resurrected Jesus, the human being is the not the Christ that transcends Judaism.

    There is not a single commend, suggestion to worhip jews. Your complete ignorance to the writers who make that case, whom you use to support your contends, but upon examination contradict you —

    Repeatedly render your comments on this regard not only incorrect, nonsensical, but evil. You are better off staying with Nietzsche who has led you to embrace the idea that the epitome or honor is condemning an innocent man to death. And as always leaving you no turn but on crude totally mischaracterized notion about circumcision. You are like the ten year old boy who simply can’t resist making crass irrelevant commentary.

    Sadly, despite a compendium of literary examples, you still have not figured out what a metaphor is.

    • Replies: @anon
  177. Seraphim says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    That’s for sure. Jefferson was definitely in contact with the ‘Illuminati’, as his warm appreciation of Weishaupt and scathing scorn poured on the ‘conspiracy theory’ of the Abbe Baruel show. The fact that as Ambassador to France he was in touch with the Masons revolutionaries (La Fayette) should be proof enough. If he wasn’t the author of the Declaration of Independence, he was one of the authors of ‘Déclaration des droits de l’homme et du citoyen’ of 1789.

    • Replies: @Alden
  178. Cleburne says:
    @anon

    The absolute state of what passes for education and “thinking” in the USA. Or Tel Aviv.

    • Replies: @anon
  179. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Gonna give us another Hate-Whitey rant, muh niggah?

    Seraphim says:
    October 23, 2018 at 7:10 pm GMT

    The irony is that the ‘white’ people ar [sic] actually blacks discolored. It is a genetical defect which affects their brain too, whence their limited capacity of comprehension of the world surrounding them.

  180. @Alden

    The Persian and Jewish religions combined.

    Don’t think so.

    Zoroaster does not have notion of chosen, nor of genetic inheritance, nor all the dietary laws; don’t see real estate as defining them; Abrahamism demands worship of One God, even reserves the right to kill others who do not worship the One God that they decree, while Zoroaster is accepting of all creeds; Zoroaster perceives its religion more as a system of personal ethics — Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds, rather than a huge array of rituals; vastly different burial practices, not the same temple practices —

    Jews borrowed their ethical sense from Zoroastrian teaching. That’s about it.

    • Replies: @Alden
  181. anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    “no going back.”

    You don’t eat sushi?

    Or steak tartare?

    In The Old Man and the Sea — did he dry or cook the fish that he ate, or did he eat it raw?

  182. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Because he promised his dying wife he’d never get remarried.

    “On her deathbed, holding her hand in his, Mr. Jefferson promised her solemnly that he would never marry again. And he never did.” – Edward Bacon, overseer. https://historyfan2.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/thomas-jeffersons-grief-over-his-wifes-death-and-his-promise-to-her/

    But as we’ve seen before, you love pointing out and crowing about all of Whitey’s errors, because if Whitey makes enough mistakes, you imagine he’s finally down to your level.

  183. “But he doesn’t consider blacks to be equals. He can’t even imagine them being a part of the US society and participating in our government. “Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people [blacks] are to be free. Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them.” (Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821) The original HBD prez was right.”

    Equality is neither a condition nor an expectation to be human being or a human being with reason. Utterly beside the point, oh there’s a shock, an argument that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Another shock, referencing an author’s words who contradict the argument you are making based on the same. President Jefferson would not consider himself as equal to most the colonists but above them despite his skin color.

    So you have no rungs on this ladder you are attempting to climb out of your self created hole. You are by President Jefferson’s own words — simply and definitively – wrong.

    The issue is not equality save in the recognized humanity by President Jefferson. He was about freedom for himself, unless they were his slaves. In that he wanted full ownership of mind and body.

    ————————

    I will sidestep the matter of Miss Hemmings and President Jefferson. The notion of ownership and having the ability to say “no” to one’s master is just more intellectual force than can be held by most of the commenters here, whether the event occurred or not.

    We know that it happened in others instances among by owners both male and females took advantage.

    • Replies: @anon
  184. Art says:

    When it comes to the bible (old and new) – once you go past Jesus’ words – you enter a world of BS.

    The Christian end times, Armageddon stories are made up BS – by people who most of all, want your contributions.

    Christianity is an idealistic philosophy. The great contribution of Jesus Christ is his words of idealism – those words made Western culture successful. He asked us to act ideally with each other and ourselves. Hope, the sanctity of life, love, truth, forgiveness, extending grace – drive humanity forward – they are the engine of humanity – no other thought system does that.

    Be ideal – think peace — Art

    p.s. Religiously Jesus changed god from a foreboding creator – into universal entity that was hopeful and forgiving.

    • Replies: @anon
  185. wayfarer says:
    @anon

    Cultural Marxism: Its central idea is to soften up and prepare Western Civilization for economic Marxism after a gradual, relentless, sustained attack on every institution of Western culture, including schools, literature, art, film, the Christian religious tradition, the family, sexual mores, national sovereignty, etc. The attacks are usually framed in Marxist terms as a class struggle between oppressors and oppressed; the members of the latter class allegedly include women, minorities, homosexuals, and adherents of non-Western ideologies such as Islam. Cultural Marxism has been described as “the cultural branch of globalism.”

    source: https://www.conservapedia.com/Cultural_Marxism

    • Replies: @anon
  186. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Expressing honor is damn well the intent of naming a day after God-Godin-Odin-Woden. Or Thor. When you show up in New Jerusalem to claim your gaudy Jewcondo with that lame excuse-making, Yahweh’s gonna blast your white ass straight to Loki’s daughter’s underworld realm Hell for having another god before you, and we’ll have a good time of beer, brats, and babes. And babes like Margrethe are a damn sight better than being a submissive boy-Bride of a swarthy Rabbi on your knees, especially considering Jesus banned straight sex in Jewheaven. How ya reckon that “marriage” to Jewsus is gonna get consummated, anyway? I don’t even want to think about it. Oh, who’s Margrethe? Press that More button! 🙂

    [MORE]

    The hell I won’t talk that way! Peter, an eternity here without her is not an eternity of bliss; it is an eternity of boredom and loneliness and grief. You think this damned gaudy halo means anything to me when I know–yes, you’ve convinced me!–that my beloved is burning in the Pit? I didn’t ask much. Just to be allowed to live with her. I was willing to wash dishes forever if only I could see her smile, hear her voice, touch her hand! She’s been shipped on a technicality and you know it! Snobbish, bad-tempered angels get to live here without ever doing one lick to deserve it. But my Marga, who is a real angel if one ever lived, gets turned down and sent to Hell to everlasting torture on a childish twist in the rules. You can tell the Father and His sweet-talking Son and that sneaky Ghost that they can take their gaudy Holy City and shove it! If Margrethe has to be in Hell, that’s where I want to be!

    Alexander Hergensheimer in Job: A Comedy of Justice (Robert Heinlein, 1984)

    See ya in Hell, bro!

  187. http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/1674/sexual-relations-between-elite-white-women-and-enslaved-men-in-the-antebellum-south-a-socio-historical-analysis

    https://www.bowdoin.edu/~prael/projects/gsonnen/page4.html

    I won’t go further l’est some take advantage of the issue to engage in crass comment.
    ——-

    President Jeffereson’s view on scripture only serve to belie just how prevalent scripture was in US ethos. And clearly his example makes plain that the OT was not a Trojan Horse as one could and did freely discard vast volumes of scripture old and new — highlighting the freedom of choice to believe.

    • Replies: @anon
  188. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    • Art: He asked us to act ideally with each other and ourselves.
    • Jesus: “Hate everyone else—your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even your own life.” (Luke 14:26)

    Whites hating their own kin isn’t exactly “ideal”—except from a Jewish viewpoint.

    • Replies: @Art
  189. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    I am happy that I am not the only one voice clamoring in the desert! It’s a comfort that it is not in vain. There are some, albeit fewer and fewer, people who know what the Church is all about from inside.

    • Replies: @anon
  190. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • EliteCon: “the Christ that transcends Judaism.”
    • 1 Cor. 5:7 “Christ, our ✡Passover✡ lamb, has been sacrificed.”

    Welp… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • EliteCon: “You are like the ten year old boy”
    • Jesus: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 18:3)

    I was just trying to speak at your spiritual level. You didn’t get the memo? 🙂

  191. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @wayfarer

    You never heard of Rabbi Jewsus’ Marxist terms as a class struggle between oppressors and oppressed?

    “There was a rich man…in torment…agony…remember that in your lifetime you received your good things…” -The Rich Man and Lazarus, Luke 16:19-31

    Maybe crack open that Bible and actually read it sometime.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  192. ababush says:

    Thanks a lot for this great piece of work.

    I fully agree with your assessment that due to the OT inclusion in the Bible, « the fruit came with the worm, whose name is Yahweh ».

    Still, as you mentioned, « the constitution of a universal religion is the ultimate goal of Judaism » (with a world government). Still, it seems that Catholicism is the ultimate enemy to Judaism, due to the Holy Trinity (that was introduced by the Franks, as per Romanides). According to Jews and Masons, it prevents Catholicism to be dissolved in Noachism (while it is not the case with Orthodox Church, Reformism, Islam and other religions).

    Therefore, even if the Church hierarchy has already been corrupted, I think the main hope of effective Christian resistance against Judaism, resides in a revival of the Catholic Church expurgated from the OT.

    • Replies: @anon
  193. Seraphim says:
    @onebornfree

    I knew that, but thanks anyway.
    My point was to draw attention on Mr. Guyenot’s, a French man, ignorance of his own history. It reflects on his ‘knowledge’ of a subject that he knows little about.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  194. wayfarer says:
    @AaronB

    Instead of becoming unworldly again, maybe we should find the balance.

    An unforeseen spiritual/material balance will maybe someday enable humanity to achieve harmony with itself and Mother Nature – just like honeybees.

  195. wayfarer says:
    @anon

    Maybe crack open that Bible and actually read it sometime.

    I’d much rather read the Bhagavad Gita.

    “If you want to see brave, look at those that can forgive.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  196. onebornfree says: • Website
    @anon

    anon[363] • Disclaimer says: “the Chinese govt actually cares about their people to some degree”

    Yeah, right!

    Are you out of your tiny mind, you gullible fool? What in god’s name are you smoking?

    China is a fully centralized commie hell-hole run top -down by a murdering psychopathic megalomaniac.

    The Chinese state tracks its citizen slaves _everywhere_ they go, via phone/internet technology, and their verbal and none verbal behavior is then recorded via a Social Credit Score system dreamed up by the likes of the technocratic idiots at Google/ Alphabet.

    Gays are conveniently “exterminated”, and their organs then harvested, along with those of other undesirables] . Muslims [ not that I’m any fan of that idiotic religion] , are sent to “re-education” centers to “help” them “see the light” via forced labor in slave factories, of which there are literally thousands[ for both Muslims and for other non-desirables who have failed to please the state via the social credit score system.

    [MORE]

    Apple Inc., now almost wholly based in China, [where it pays zero taxes and has its very own slave factories], is, ironically, now run by the clueless Tim Cook. Cook is gay, and yet he seems to have absolutely no idea about the current Chinese policy towards these, undesirable to the state homosexuals.

    The state-run Chinese, er, “health care system” , features, amongst other delights, the forced abortion and murder of unwanted , live babies by the state, who come into this world briefly, only to have their brains immediately sucked out via what amounts to a vacuum cleaner. Those babies murdered in this fashion by the state then have their vital organs removed and, if suitable, sold for profits that go to support the Chinese communist state. [And by the way, these exact same abortion procedures and others like them are now slowly becoming law in various US states, as I write.]

    The only good thing I see about all of the above ongoing [and steadily increasing] tyranny in China is that the rapidly expanding, ongoing further centralization of the Chinese economy by the murdering psychopathic megalomaniac [i.e. Xi and his Communist party cronies], is causing the rapid collapse of their entire economy , right before our eyes, even now as we all write here.

    The incredible gains made by the Chinese economy in the recent past [ that is, post Mao, pre Xi], were caused directly [and exclusively] by a small, but significant relaxing of the rules preventing economic freedom for Chinese individuals, post Mao.

    However, although only slight, the [recent past] partial relaxation of the rules restricting the Chinese economy, [via the partial decentralization and partial relaxing of laws/policies restricting economic freedom for individuals and businesses]; even though it resulted in only a slightly freer economy, nevertheless was/is [or should be], enough to more than amply demonstrate the incredible power of freer, decentralized markets to bring about huge gains in living standards and massive gains in overall prosperity and general standard for the average individual.

    Like I said, all of that prosperity resulted only, and directly, from only a post Mao , gradual and partial relaxing of the totalitarian rules restricting the Chinese and their ability to pursue honest, “win-win” profit- making business practices, within both the Chinese , and world, marketplace.

    The True State of the Current Chinese Economy:

    All of these past, massive gains in the general standard of living for the average Chinese individual are now going down the toilet of history , right before your very eyes [ assuming you bothered to fully open them] , as the Chinese economy continues to implode, directly because of the murdering psychopathic commie criminal Xi’s ongoing, and daily increasing, policies of further centralization of the entire Chinese economy via ever more laws restricting free-market exchanges, and ever more behavioral restrictions on Chinese individuals via its Orwellian social credit score system [ which, amongst other things, enforces travel restrictions on all those who fail to please this algorithm-based system, and which, as previously mentioned, was first developed by Alphabet/Google, and which, by the way, is now in the process of being fully implemented right here in the good ole US, via the “wonderful” [ or so we’re told], new 5G ” internet of things” system.

    Bottom line: the entire Chinese economy is rapidly “going down the toilet”; living standards for the vast majority of Chinese [ ie not those “employed” within the Chinese state apparatus] are now sinking, and must/will continue to sink, the more Xi and his murdering cronies insist in the further state centralization of everything and anything that attempts to freely move within the Chinese economy, in the classic, time-honored, full retard, commie fashion. [ It’s called” killing the goose that laid the golden egg”]

    In short, the Chinese economy is fucked, and will remain so as long as the Chinese people are forced by its rulers to continue on its present, now seemingly irreversible “full retard” course of ever more centralization, which must[ and inevitably will ] lead only to evermore Chinese economic ruin and the steadily increasing impoverization of the average Chinese slaves lifestyle.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @anonymous
  197. homahr says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    surprise, surprise, the jew-idol-worshiper supports ‘sovereignty’ for rapists and pedophiles, just like the kikes in israel do

  198. anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    The Chinese state tracks its citizen slaves _everywhere_ they go, via phone/internet technology, and their verbal and none verbal behavior is then recorded via a Social Credit Score system dreamed up by the likes of the technocratic idiots at [the USA-based corporation] Google/ Alphabet.

    — but “the technocratic idiots at American-founded USA-based Google would never “track its own citizen . . .

    never

    nev

    . .. er

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  199. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • EliteCon: Jefferson would not consider himself as equal to most the colonists
    • Jefferson: A government is republican in proportion as every member composing it has his equal voice in the direction of its concerns… (Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, July 12, 1816)

    You seem to get confused about an awful lot of things. I’m here to help. A word of gratitude would be appreciated.

  200. anon[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Clamoring in the desert? Ain’t no place in Europe like that. However, we do have heaths, a cool shrubland habitat. You desert dwelling Jew-worshipers probably have concocted some pejorative term for the indigenous people who live there.

  201. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • EliteCon: And clearly his example makes plain that the OT was not a Trojan Horse
    • Jefferson: “Jews…their ideas of him & of his attributes were degrading & injurious….their Ethics were not only imperfect, but often irreconcileable with the sound dictates of reason & morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us: & repulsive, & anti-social, as respecting other nations.” 21 April 1803

    Clearly. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  202. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @ababush

    Expurgated from the OT? Ready to expurgate Rabbi Jesus?

    Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. Luke 17:26

  203. Alden says:
    @Grace Poole

    You don’t understand. Christianity is far more Zoroastrian than Jewish. Ancient Persian religions with 2 Jewish Gods father and Jesus and the OT stuck on to the New Testament stories.

    Christianity has kept some Jewish things; burial in the ground instead of by fire, monogamy weekly sabbath and the major myth that Jesus the Jew was both the Jewish messiah and the Christian God.

  204. Alden says:
    @Seraphim

    Abbe Baruel is probably the only widely available French historian who wrote the truth about the French Revolution. I only wish he had spent more time on the role of Philippe d’Orleans, the George Soros who financed the revolution and years of propaganda leading up to the revolution.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  205. The future of this Nation [America] may be at stake, because God will bless those that bless Israel

    Feels more like a curse to me. Good news is, the old generation that believes this nonsense is dying off fast, the younger generations question more, and listen to the Palestinian side of the story, so the Zionists and Evangelicals days are numbered.

    Christians cannot even see the Jewish plan for world domination that is written in plain language, right under their nose.

    Nope, sure can’t. In fact, they defend it till they’re red in the face.

  206. @onebornfree

    I mean, whatever next – a real constitutionally limited federal government reduced to 5% of its current size that had no way to interfere in any part of the marketplace?

    America as well ass the rest of the world is ruled over by the richest capitalists. Everything we do is done to make them richer. If they thought they could do away with Big Govt. and dish themselves huge tax cuts, trillion dollar bailouts, they would do it in a second. They know perfectly well why capitalism needs Big Govt. They also know that you’re just a brain-washed moron who is incapable of figuring out anything. They can tell you whatever ridiculous BS they want and they know you haven’t the brain capacity to sniff out their BS.

    Capitalism would be DOA without Big Govt. to bail it out every time it fails. If capitalists didn’t want Big Govt. there would be no Big Govt. Capitalists need Big Govt. and its taxpayer funded military to invade other parts of the world, to forcibly take land, for trading and settling, to steal the natural resources from indigenous people, and keep them from kicking the capitalist thieves out of their homeland.

    Adam Smith, considered the apostle of the “free market,” understood very well how capitalism could not survive a truly free market, if Big Govt. did not exist to protect it. He wrote. in the middle of the eighteenth century: “Laws and governments may be considered in this and indeed in every case, a combination of the rich to oppress the poor, and preserve to themselves the inequality of the goods, which would otherwise be soon destroyed by the attacks of the poor, who if not hindered by the government would soon reduce the others to an equality with themselves by open violence.”

    The Constitution set up Big Govt., big enough to protect capitalist slave-holders against slave rebellion, to catch runaway slaves if they went from one state to another, to pay off bondholders, to pass tariffs on behalf of manufacturers, to tax poor farmers to pay for armies that would then attack the farmers if they resisted payment, as was done in the Whiskey Rebellion in Pennsylvania in 1794. Much of this was embodied in the legislation of the first Congress, responding to the request of the Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @onebornfree
  207. @niteranger

    Most Jews are Askenazim. Askenazi is an ethnic group. Jewish is a religion. Quite simple.

    • Replies: @niteranger
  208. Patricus says:
    @schrub

    AD is actually Anno Domine, after the year of the Lord. Like you I have objected to the initials BCE (before the common era) and CE (common era). These add no precision to a discussion of dates. All these accomplish is to remove the words Christ and God. At the same time most of the months of the year and days of a week are named after various gods. Almost all knowledge is based in some kind of religion. Our names for university degrees are based upon milestones in theological studies.

    It does appear to me that Jewish authors always seem to use these initials however others also have adopted these. In the French revolution all religious names for months and days were replaced by numbers. Happily that faded away. Time for BCE & CE to be forgotten, Odin be willing.

    • Replies: @Dube
  209. Dube says:
    @Seraphim

    the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God

    My surmise has been that this duality was an accommodation of both the non-theist Hobbes, who conceived and elaborated the phrase “laws of nature,” and the theist John Locke, whose natural laws derived from the claim that we are “God’s property” since we are created by God.

    If my reading is correct, that was a deft accommodation by Jefferson of potentially conflicting views from two major thinkers who informed the Founders.

  210. Adrian says:
    @UncommonGround

    @UncommonGround

    You wrote:

    “If I understood and still remember what I read, Spinoza wasn’t really banned from the Jewish community. He wanted to leave and he left the Jewish community because it was not the community to which he wanted to belong”

    He was banned all right:

    This was the text of the curse with which Spinoza was expelled on 27th July 1656 from the Jewish community of Amsterdam: (translated by me from the Dutch translation of the Spanish original as it occurs in Jan en Annie Romein, Erflaters van onze Beschaving, 1977)

    “ “In accordance with the decision of the Angels and the judgment of the Saints, we banish, reject, condemn and curse Baruch de Espinoza, with the permission of the Holy God and with the permission of this whole holy congregation, for the holy Books of the Law with the 613 precepts contained therein, with the spell with which Joshua bound Jericho, with the curse with which Elisha cursed the boys, and with all the accusations written in the Law. He is cursed by day and cursed by night; be he cursed when he lies down, and be he cursed when he gets up; be he cursed when he goes out, and be he cursed when he comes in. May God not forgive him. The wrath and anger of the Lord will ignite this man and cast on him all curses written in the Book of the Law. And the Lord will wipe out his name under Heaven, and the Lord will separate him to his destruction from all the tribes of Israel with all the curses of Heaven, which are written in the Book of the Law. You, however, who adhere to the Lord your God, you all live today. ”

    …After the cited words containing the sacred curse, there was also the prescription to the members of the congregation, who were forbidden from communicating with him verbally and in writing, who could not do him any favor either, nor stay with him under his roof or even within four cubits of him, and not read anything written by him.”

    Spinoza’s written defence that was also in Spanish is lost. But his Tractatus Theologico-Politicus suppposedly contains it in a somewhat altered form. One of his main “heresies” is that the Bible does not contain the word of God.

    (The original of this Tractatus mentions on the title page that it was published in Hamburg, but it was in fact published in Amsterdam)

  211. anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Jesus is himself a hero of the Galileans and a protest against the Romans.

    Jesus did not turn out the anti Roman leader Jews were waiting for, no way he would have been considered a rebel or a protest icon. Romans were reluctant to execute him and did not believe he was a threat to the empire, but they had to crucify him under false pretenses to calm the population, since they knew societal upheaval could spiral into an anti Roman rebellion for unrelated reasons, as the population had always been restless with nationalistic undercurrents running deep in the society.

    The Cross/Jesus replace the Roman tromaeum/Caesar, and also replacing “the mourning Gallia,” while making a Jewking the new supreme leader. Jesus alludes to this when he referenced this “render unto Caesar” coin:

    Nobody can prove which Roman coin, out of all the money circulating at the time, Jesus has referenced. Most likely one of the reigning emperor’s coins.

    To this day, museums across the globe, display body armor the way the Caesar’s Gallic coin depicts it, while crucifixion was a popular method of execution in Rome, since way before Jesus’ birth, which was not abolished until Constantine. It’s a false analogy, of the Rorschach inkblot variety, Carotta is making- his biased speculation, which proves nothing. Repurposing or countermarking of old coins is nothing unusual (bronze coins were in short supply in the first century AD in Rome), could have been worn as means of protection against denunciation, to attest there was no disputing Caesar’s divinity, while in actuality, treated as a Christian medallion, made of valuable silver which was worth keeping. Carotta cannot prove when such items were worn, only when they first appeared as coins. Temples have been repurposed, it doesn’t mean one religion comes from the other. He imagines Mary and John under the Cross (while instead, a downcast woman, and a bound man is depicted there, under a trophy of captured armor), when Romans had a long tradition of commemorating victories and political events in coinage for propaganda purposes. There are versions of the coin featuring only the trophy.


    Imperator Titus Caesar Vespasianus Augustus, 79 AD


    Parthia Capta, 115 AD

    Apparently you have a problem with Jesus, not Jews themselves, so Talmudic of you. A certain class of trolls takes the long term approach. Looking far ahead into the future, when they target a website full of who they perceive to be irredeemable and hardcore ‘anti-Semite’ commentators, not susceptible to traditional manipulation tactics, where any attempts to change their minds are considered futile, wasted efforts, they resort to attacking the cultural background, philosophy, and historical identity of the targets. Since they’re dealing with people who will always consider Jews their enemies, the way to use it against them is to convince their victims their entire history, of which they’re a product, is interwoven with enduring, powerful Jewish ideas. To induce confusion, invite biased questioning based on carefully presented lies, and bring about rejection. If they succeed at that, once the roots are severed, the new, liberated from his collective identity, human subject is neutralized as a future threat, whose offspring, if he has any, will be a weather vane, as malleable as fresh dough, and in the case of France, will end up sticking their butts up, and banging their heads on the floor, five times a day, fifty years from now. The ‘Think long term’ strategy.

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    , @mcohen
  212. Dube says:
    @renfro

    Can you supply a link to the text as you show it here in English? Your preceding note with link goes to text in German, it seems.

    • Replies: @renfro
  213. Dube says:
    @Patricus

    BCE and CE are now politically correct.

    I do wonder what is supposed to be “common” about the CE, and what respect of commonality is supposed to have been lacking in the BCE.

    • Replies: @Patricus
    , @ploni almoni
  214. Laurent Guyénot: “It can be argued, of course, that the Old Testament has served Christendom well: it was certainly not in the nonviolence of Christ that the Catholic Church found the energy and ideological means to impose its world order for nearly a thousand years on Western Europe.”

    Yes, exactly.

    Too often conspiracy theorists follow the rule of cui bono, and focus only on what supposed conspirators got as a benefit. But the question of what the Jews got out of Christianity must be evaluated along with what whites got out of it, and continue to get out of it. The answer: Empire. Although they were hypocrites, Christianity provided its adherents with a very fine excuse to conquer the world. Christianity, with its imaginary “brotherhood of man” a centerpiece, gave whites the opportunity to conquer their racial enemies for their own good. It justified and still justifies incorporating them into its body politic, thus making them stronger (at least, that was the hope, and is still the hope, even as the flaws of diversity become ever more apparent.)

    But there are plenty of reasons to condemn Christianity besides the fact that it elevates the Jews in the esteem of whites, which seems to be the Marcionite author’s primary complaint. First among these reasons is its unrealistic assessment of human nature, and pig-headed misunderstanding of reality itself. Christianity is a pre-scientific belief system that is entirely hostile to rational explanations of phenomena. It’s unfortunately no exaggeration to say that the Bible itself, and especially the New Testament, sets forward what is literally a psychotic view of reality. Things appear out of thin air, corpses come back to life, people become possessed by demons, etc. This sort of defect would not be cured by a divorce from the OT; nor would many others equally grave or worse.

    Then we have the supposed sayings of Jesus, which taken together and taken seriously, are a prescription for poverty and even self-destructiveness to the point of suicide. Love your enemies he says, and if they steal from you, give them even more. If they strike you on one side, you must obligingly turn and offer them the other as well. Further, he says that you must become as a little child, i.e., become completely irrational, in order to be saved. The heaven of Jesus is not obtained by means of special knowledge, but only faith. No argument about this is allowed, for unlike Socrates Jesus isn’t about discovering the truth, he simply states he IS the truth, and if you can’t accept that, then it’s eternal damnation and hellfire for you. This hostility to reason, coupled with Christian millennialism that awaited Christ’s supposedly imminent return, was a powerful toxin that disabled the civilizational impulses of white people for almost a thousand years. This toxin caused the fall of classical civilization, and though its effects eventually lessened, it may yet cause the fall of our own, perhaps even precipitating a war that will end all life on Earth.

    Laurent Guyénot: “It is to internalize an extremely primitive and unspiritual image of the divine that is obstructive of sound metaphysical thinking: the divorce between philosophy (the love of Wisdom) and theology (the science of God) is one manifestation of this cognitive dissonance in Western thought.”

    A science of God? Laughable. There are many laboratories where the laws of chemistry and physics can be tested, but where is the laboratory in which the laws of God can be tested? God or gods are like imaginary friends, a symptom of man’s weakness and desire to think himself special. Speculations about the characteristics of imaginary beings are pointless. If that’s what we mean by metaphysics, then there is no such thing as sound metaphysical thinking.

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    , @Sparkon
    , @Sparkon
    , @Art
    , @ababush
  215. Laughing. Nice try. President Thomas Jefferson, held himself above by class and wealth. That is not the same thing as understanding equality under the law.

    But your position further undermines any notion about imposing on the minds of others. Which he clearly felt justified in doing based on his issues about maintaining his wealth. The discussion is simply moot. President Jefferson was a hypocrite on this issue — not an absolutist as you pretend to advance.

    No. In reality you are love to obfuscate and sew confusion , where none exists. There comes a time when one understands the founders for the men were as opposed to the men they desired to be or that which we have made of them.

    Had in fact fully embraced what you claim, he would have based on his on beliefs set his slaves free in keeping with his sentiments in the Declaration. There’s no confusion. President Jefferson fell short of his ideals. You are not a help, nor are you very astute or honest. And I am far from confused. Regardless of how nonsensically you attempt to weasal past simple basics.

    At the very least one has to admit that Thomas Jefferson’s views on equality and what it meant in practice was a work in progress.
    ——————————————
    “surprise, surprise, the jew-idol-worshiper supports ‘sovereignty’ for rapists and pedophiles, just like the kikes in israel do . . .”

    If you can find a single statement that even suggests that I support such behavior, you are welcome to bring it forward. Once again, long on accusations shrift of support.

    • Replies: @anon
  216. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Beckow

    It is also unlikely and counter-intuitive to propose immigration waves from the Caucasus mountains

    Bradley suggests that thalls lived high up in the mountains during the ice ages, and some came down during warming periods. This seems to correlate with skeletons found if you draw a line from Pyrenees through to Caucasus. Most likely they hunted big game, and hunted at night due to good night vision with large eye sockets. I always let data lead me, rather than rejecting things out of hand.

  217. @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    300 prophecies fulfilled by Jesus can be found in the Old Testament

    Give us the list please! And tell me: why can’t Jews see these prophecies?

  218. @TelfoedJohn

    I agree, hence my concluding paragraphs.

  219. @Geraldo Kaprosy

    Sorry but that is a simplistic argument. Jew is interchangeable with myriad of objectives of the “so called chosen” people. Ashkenazis don’t belong in Palestine but they are there aren’t they? Jew is a magic word that that use whenever they want. Many Ashkenazis aren’t religious at all but support Israel and the advantages being a so called being Jewish.

    • Replies: @Geraldo Kaprosy
  220. Seraphim says:
    @wayfarer

    It is ironic that the Bible is condemned because it condone violence and massacres of supposed ‘innocents’, but we praise Bhagavadgita because Krishna urged Arjuna to renounce all moral scruples and cast off the ‘weakness of pity’ and show manliness in killing his whole family.

    • Replies: @anon
  221. I think the issue is how does one assimilate the freed.

    He was not talking about blacks being the wolf — he was talking about the consequence of slavery. The mistake was to maintain blacks in country and assimilate them, send them to a land of their own. The country instead to deny them all that makes the a free reasoned people appear less so and hamstringing them from what was possible. It was a very strange choice.

    Apparently, you are wholly unaware of my politics. But you mistake my take on fairness as some manner of soft touch. When it quite the opposite. Fairplay, integrity, upholding a standard of truth — they some of the toughest mistresses one can have, demanding and exacting. And no one thinks I am a left leaning anything and no one has ever caught me worshiping Jews. In respect to faith, christianity is the higher calling and even the Apostles whom you have misquoted repeatedly make that clear. And not a single one ever calls upon anyone to worship Jews.

    If you claim that all men should be free because they are endowed by their creator — and you are willing to wage a questionable war in that regard. There simply I mechanism to justify slavery. That declaration and that war —-

    Shreds any justification for the slaves held by the colonies, confederate stages and subsequent US.

    • Replies: @anon
  222. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cleburne

    Tel Aviv, you say? Isn’t that place really close to where you consider yourself a Citizen?

    • But our Citizenship is in Jewheaven. -Phil. 3:20 (Jewheaven is Jerusalem, Rev. 21:2)
    • So now you Goyim are no longer strangers and foreigners; you are Citizens along with all of Jewgod’s holy Jewpeople. -Ephesians 2:19

    Every Christfag like you is a disloyal Dual Citizen with a primary allegiance to a foreign capital and a foreign people.

    You’re an ignoble cretin, which is how Paul had assessed correctly the moronic nature of the dupes who swallowed his nonsense.

    • For the message about the cross is nonsense…the nonsense of our preaching…Not many of you were wise by human standards…not many were noble… 1 Co. 1:18-26

  223. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    Jesus: “I was a stranger and you invited me in.” (Matt. 25:31-46)
    Telfoedjohn: “Christianity is so embedded in Europeans”

    True, and it won’t survive worshiping the L’Internationale Jew (Matthew 28:19, Luke 24:47) much longer.

  224. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    There are 4,105 references to the Old Testament within the New. It’s pretty stupid to think you can separate it.

  225. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @Baxter

    How is Judeo-Christian misleading? Christianity is co-dependent upon Judaism. Christians carry a heavy Judeo-Testament attached to their New. And like Romans 1:16 puts, it always, always, always, it’s “The Jew First.”

  226. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • “John 4:22: We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    • “Elitecon: no one has ever caught me worshiping Jews.

    Good! Me neither. Whatever saving a White man imagines he needs can surely be furnished by fellow Whites. Whoever thought salvation is from the Jews, anyway? That be crazy! LOL I’m glad you reject what that Jew Testament teaches.

  227. onebornfree says: • Website
    @anonymous

    anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:“— but “the technocratic idiots at American-founded USA-based Google would never “track its own citizen . .”

    If you had bothered to read my entire post, you would see that I’d mentioned Google’s own tracking of US citizens via a system similar to China’s, not once, but twice 🙂

    Regards, onebornfree

  228. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    > Most likely one of the reigning emperor’s coins

    No shit, sherlock; that’s basically what I said, and showed an example. You managed to show even more examples of exactly the same thing: the Roman cruxiform tropaeum on Roman coins. Thanks for the assist there in making my point.

    > Apparently you have a problem with Jesus, not Jews themselves, so Talmudic of you.

    LOL! You worship a Jew, and when I point out that you worship a Jew, you try desperately to claim I’m what Jesus was. Are you retarded? Jesus was a Jew. Deal with it.

    • “Your daughter is dead: why trouble the Rabbi (Teacher) further?” Mark 5:35
    • “Going directly to Jesus, he said, Rabbi, and kissed Him.” Mark 14:45
    • “He [Jewsus] taught regularly in their Synagogues and was praised by everyone.” Luke 4:15
    • “They said, Rabbi (which means “Teacher”), where are you staying?” John 1:38
    • “He came to Jesus at night and said, Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher.” John 3:2
    • “She turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, Rabboni! (which means Teacher).” John 20:16

    > A certain class of trolls

    Funny you’d mention that. Do you think I’m better at what Jebus did than Jebus himself?

    You walked right into that one, didn’t you? 🙂

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  229. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    EliteCon is as insanely obsessed with tearing down White Patriarch Jefferson as Black Lives Matter.

    Must have got his virulent strain of anti-White hatred from his Jew-worship habit. Original Antifa Rabbi Jesus hated the Gentile White Patriarchy too.

    Rabbi Jewsus: Those Evil White Fascist Gentile Patriarchs exercise authority! Not so you! Slaves rule from the bottom, led by Kingkike! (Matthew 20:25-28, Mark 10:42-45, Luke 22:25-27)

  230. onebornfree says: • Website
    @redmudhooch

    redmudhooch says:“Adam Smith, considered the apostle of the “free market,””

    Your economic education is sorely lacking. Smith never was , and is not, an apostle of the ““free market”.

    Smith was a mercantilist.

    His “The Wealth of Nations”, although it got a few things right, was , in the big picture, a treatise on mercantilism, not on free market capitalism.

    The same goes for Ricardo et al , [despite Ricardo’s wonderful “laws of comparative advantage” concerning the realities of international trade].

    Again. All of the original classical economists were essentially mercantilists who wrote treatises on the wonders of mercantilism, [state “capitalism”] , not on free market capitalism

    A supporter of mercantilism is a promoter of state capitalism, which has little to in common with modern [post 1870]free market capitalist theory . See: https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Mercantilism.html
    ,
    As you probably know, Marx closely studied the British mercantilists, and was unable to refute their flawed “logic”. Marx just “took their ball and ran with it” ,which resulted in his own, heavily flawed, labor theory of value.

    Both, the classical economists and the post classical Marxist economists theories were based on a single primary, faulty assumption concerning real human action in the marketplace.

    This false assumption was not corrected until the works of Karl Menger appeared [1871] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Menger

    Menger handily exposed the primary false assumption of both the classical [mercantilist] economists and of Marx, whose false economic theories were primarily based on the false assumptions concerning human action and economic theory were largely based on the primary false assumption of the classical economists who preceded him

    Menger’s observations and conclusions and destruction of both mercantilist and Marxist economic theory were later famously “fleshed out”/ expanded on by the great Ludwig Von Mises, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Von_Mises , and still later, by the equally great Murray Rothbard : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard.

    If you have any real interest in removing your own false assumptions concerning the laws of human action and markets [ i.e the exact same false assumptions made by Adam Smith et al and Marx], I would suggest that you undertake a very close study of the works of Von Mises, Rothbard and other promoters of what is now known as “modern subjectivist economic theory” , or more popularly, “Austrian Economic Theory.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @anon
    , @onebornfree
  231. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    > a powerful toxin that disabled the civilizational impulses of white people

    True, true.

    • 380 AD Theodosius makes Jew-worship the offiicial religion of the Roman Empire.
    • 400-800 AD Population of Rome fell by over 90%, mainly because of famine and plague.

    Such are the consequences of being devoted to a Jewish Rabbi with this sort of poisonous advice: “Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body.”

  232. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    Read Murray Rothbard’s Holy Books? Already did. “In short, we must face the fact that the purely free society will have a flourishing free market in children.”

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  233. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Christ, Krista, Krishna, what’s the difference?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  234. onebornfree says: • Website
    @onebornfree

    onebornfree said: “Menger handily exposed the primary false assumption of both the classical [mercantilist] economists and of Marx, whose false economic theories were primarily based on the false assumptions concerning human action and economic theory were largely based on the primary false assumption of the classical economists who preceded him …”

    Sorry for this grammatically incorrect sentence. After I posted, my post never appeared so I could make any corrections needed, for some reason. Hopefully my point is still clear.

    onebornfree

  235. onebornfree says: • Website
    @anon

    anon[262] • Disclaimer says: In short, we must face the fact that the purely free society will have a flourishing free market in children.”

    And you are gullible, foolish and misinformed enough to believe that the government is going to save us all from child trafficking etc.? And that they/it are actually capable of doing this [ or anything else for that matter.] ?

    Dream on!

    This just in: [Take off your rose colored glasses! ]The governments of this world are actually fully engaged and invested in the worldwide child and sex trafficking markets.

    Besides which, “Everything government touches turns to crap” [Ringo Starr]

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [via central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”,”improved”, nor “limited” in scope, simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree

    “Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class.” Albert J. Nock

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @anon
  236. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    When you plead for people to Read Rothbard, and I actually read Rothbard and directly quote him so that others may Read Rothbard, why am rewarded by your dissociated avalanche of flaming accusations? Are you afflicted with Tourette syndrome?

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  237. Seraphim says:
    @anon

    What’s the difference between Anon (110) and Anon (262)?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  238. correction:

    I have been attempting to change this for more tan hour excuse the delay

    “If you claim that all men should be free because they are endowed by their creator — and you are willing to wage a questionable war in that regard. There simply is no way to justify slavery. That declaration and that war —-

    Shreds any justification for the slaves held by the colonies, confederate states and subsequent US.

  239. @anon

    I worship the Godman, Jesus, not a race.

    You may chase after as many fables as you desire and you may read ridiculous history books that try to prove that Jesus is other than who He is but nobody (morally speaking) is following your call because you are anathema for bringing men another Gospel.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Seraphim
  240. “• “John 4:22: We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    • “Elitecon: no one has ever caught me worshiping Jews.

    Good! Me neither. Whatever saying a White man imagines he needs can surely be furnished by fellow Whites. Whoever thought salvation is from the Jews, anyway? That be crazy! LOL I’m glad you reject what that Jew Testament teaches.”

    This is old retread territory and you have no idea what you are talking about — you just mouth nonsense. It has absolutely nothing to do with worshiping jews. Nothing about you has any common place with me. Nothing. Not even close.

    As has been demonstrated repeatedly you simply don’t have the depth or comprehension regarding what the Apostles are talking about. Skin color has no bearing on the question of faith – none. Salvation, the savior was from the line of jews, but not even he suggested that people worship jews. The Testament in question does not demand worshiping Jews. And to date you have not represented a single line that supports your claim.

    It is not a jewish testament it’s a testament about the Christ and it’s available to anyone who so desires. It calls no one to anyone of the Twelve Tribes of Israel — they have no standing on the matter of christianity.

    There is nothing common between us on the matters of faith. What you refer to as good, is called something else by the authors you chose for support. And nothing , nothing can undo that deep contradiction save your correcting the error.

    • Replies: @anon
  241. ” . . . is as insanely obsessed with tearing down White Patriarch Jefferson as Black Lives Matter. ”

    I have no idea what Black Lives Matter thinks of President Jefferson. I know that based on the record he was unable to reconcile his beliefs about “freedom”, equality” and ownership or control of others of those principles by force. His views are contradicted by his practice. As is the case on the question of slavery and a nation founded on a principle of “natural rights” bestowed, not by men but by a “supreme being”

    Here President Jefferson as the founders themselves simply fail the test of their philosophy. They did so for selfish reasons and that of national unity. In either case the matter is a failure. It’s a very tough standard to maintain one’s faith and practice, one’s belief and behavior. But no one in a placer a post of leadership can afford to engage in such deep philosophical contradictions – the founders set blade to their ideals when they did so. And we are living in its wake to this day. Their hypocrisy came at a great price. And it’s worse than bad form to defend it. it strikes the same cord of hypocrisy.

    As for tearing down the founders — I don’t think so. Just seeing the light for what the light reveals. It does not change the fact that President Jefferson was a profound thinker and prolific writer. But he along with the founders simply made a deadly mistake to the ideals they espoused.

    • Replies: @anon
  242. onebornfree says: • Website
    @anon

    anon[262] • Disclaimer says: “…why am rewarded by your dissociated avalanche of flaming accusations?…”

    “avalanche of flaming accusations?”?

    WTF are you talking about?

    You are obviously suffering from a severe lack of reading comprehension ability – which would also explain your lack of comprehension of Rothbard, and your complete inability to recognize the fact that all governments are essentially nothing more than wholly criminal enterprises, and that none of its/ their “solutions” have ever actually worked in the long term.

    I will from hereon attempt to avoid any further interactions with you .

    Have a “nice” day.

    No regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @anon
  243. @mijj

    MiiJ:

    You are correct. I read somewhere that the Koran also wants unbelievers dead! Therefore, religious books are in a way ordering its followers to be killers.

    The Exception is the N.T.

    The old testament you are correct. Thus in Hebrews 8:13, the following is stated:

    By speaking of a new covenant, He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

    So, devout “Christians” who ‘read’ their bibles, i.e. NT, should know better. Sadly, those ‘devout christians’ only pay attention to their ‘pastors’ instead of reading the NT, and informing themselves about the fact the the old testament should be removed and the NT placed as the reading requirement to have christians knowledgeable and to stop learning the hate that talmudists have due to their compliance with their OT. If Christians apply these passages to their brain washed mind, it could free them from their fanatic hatred to what the fake media brain washed them.

    Jesus speaking to the ‘jews”

    44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

    Jesus speaking of the ‘jews”

    I know your affliction and your poverty—though you are rich! And I am aware of the slander of those who falsely claim to be Jews, but are in fact a synagogue of Satan.

    Look at those who belong to the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews but are liars instead. I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I love you.

    {revelation 2-9 and 3-9}

    Christians, LEAVE CHURCHIANITY WHILE YOU CAN!

    • Agree: Cleburne
    • Replies: @anon
  244. anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    And you’re still at it. I Read Rothbard, I quoted Rothbard, and you go on some crazy rant about all my various problems. I think a simple thank you is in order for quoting Rothbard, but you don’t seem to like it.

  245. anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Still banging away at those evil white patriarchal Founders, I see.

  246. anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    > I worship the Godman, Jesus, not a race.

    That’s the constant refrain of Jew-worshipers. But the Jew Testament says this about the race of Jews:

    • John 4:22 “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the JewS.”

    Notice that is plural? Not a single Godman, but the JewS.

    • Romans 9:4 “The people of Israel, chosen.”

    Note: people, plural, not a single person.

    > You may chase after as many fables as you desire and you may read ridiculous history books

    All I have to do is quote the Jew Testament to send you Jew-worshipers into a frenzied lather of excuse-making and vociferous denials.

  247. anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • 1 Cor. 1:18-25: “For the message about the cross is nonsense…the nonsense of our preaching…”
    • EliteCon: “you just mouth nonsense”

    Naw, that’s what you Jew-worshipers do. Says so right in the Jew Testament.

    • John 4:22 “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.”
    • EliteCon: “not even he suggested that people worship jews”

    That’s what you keep saying. All I have to do is quote the Jew Testament to throw you into a frenzied lather of denial and insults.

    • 1 Cor. 5:7: “Christ, our ✡Passover✡ lamb, has been sacrificed.”
    • EliteCon: “It is not a jewish testament it’s a testament about the Christ”

    Am I going to believe you or my lying eyes?

    • EliteCon: “It calls no one to anyone of the Twelve Tribes of Israel — they have no standing…”
    • Revelation 7:4-8 “And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand….Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.”

    EliteCon, you are a rather inept liar.

  248. anon[106] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    No shit, sherlock; that’s basically what I said, and showed an example. You managed to show even more examples of exactly the same thing: the Roman cruxiform tropaeum on Roman coins. Thanks for the assist there in making my point.

    Nah, don’t deflect, you were trying to prove Jesus is a fictional character, whose worship originates in Julius Caesar’s times and can be traced to the monetary imagery you provided as an example:

    Jesus Christ = Julius Caesar
    Lecture by Francesco Carotta, 28 November 2002

    Jesus was crucified during the reign of Tiberius. You alluded to, and linked to someone who tries to prove Jesus is in fact Julius Caesar. Cherry picking a specific, the most fitting as you saw it, military mint issue to push the prejudiced agenda that Jesus was Julius Caesar, is not a proof of this misguided hypothesis. That’s why I provided different examples of the same motif that could never support such conclusions. At least, a picture of a coin that had been converted to and used as a Christian pendant, should have been shown by Carotta. Romans considered their emperors gods, no big deal if indeed, someone reused a coin as a religious object because the motif could be thought of as loosely matching.

    LOL! You worship a Jew, and when I point out that you worship a Jew, you try desperately to claim I’m what Jesus was. Are you retarded? Jesus was a Jew. Deal with it.

    I acknowledge Jesus was a Jew, but nobody, including me, worships him for being a Jew. The Jewish populace rejected him the way you’re doing. Don’t pretend you don’t know what the Talmud has to say about Jesus- how he’s being boiled in excrement for eternity, in the lowest rungs of the netherworld.

    > A certain class of trolls

    Funny you’d mention that. Do you think I’m better at what Jebus did than Jebus himself?

    Not to me. You’re not. I choose Jesus, not your amusing commentary.

    The use of deceptive imagery (akin to propaganda posters) which targets emotions, rather than reason (images used for quick, maximum impact, rather than lengthy essays with intellectual arguments nobody would take the time to read) and cherry picked, prepared well in advance, often obscure quotations taken out of context, concerning a subject supposedly despised, yet seemingly and ironically, much more familiar to the presenter than to his targets (though in reality, when exposed to scrutiny- only superficially, barely enough to make the point as required to achieve the objective- see my concluding remarks in comment #212), raise all the red flags associated with an illegitimate poster/propagandist/troll.

    You walked right into that one, didn’t you?

    And he will always try to project all the malevolent brainwashing efforts I described in comment #212, back at your faith community, tell you he’s here to help and offer a way out, if not through atheism in its different anti theist manifestations, then at least through paganism. But you’ll know who you’re dealing with, don’t let him lead you astray and put you where he wants to. Christianity unites the common people, enen though leaders and polititians may invoke it to play their games, while paganism retains and magnifies all the cultural and national divisions that have forever plagued Europe- they and they’re gods against ours- oh Odin, let us destroy and enslave them.

    • Replies: @anon
  249. anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @in the middle

    Apparently, the only one and true Christian one ever meets is the one to whom they’re speaking right now. Just about every Christian I’ve ever met spends vast amounts of time denouncing the vast majority of other Christians in the most vile terms as heretics, churchians, minions of satan, the lost, blah, blah, blah. It’s hilarious.

    And this constant conflict of who is truly a Christian is found even in the Bible. Example:

    Hebrews 8:13 He has made the first one obsolete.
    Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets.

    For where two or three are gathered together, there are two, three, four, or more conflicting opinions, and they’re ready to kill each other over it.

  250. anon[897] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    https://i.imgur.com/4pbdCTB.jpg
    You walked right into that one, didn’t you?

    Being a Jesus’ follower has been an extremely dangerous and often deadly undertaking. Especially the first three centuries. Christians today are the most persecuted religious group in the world. The pressure is to leave, not join the Church.

    • Replies: @anon
  251. anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    > Christianity unites the common people

    Better ask Jebus about that, dumbass.

    For I have come to turn “‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law (Matthew 10:35)

    “I have come to set the world on fire, and I wish it were already burning! (Luke 12:49)

    Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. (Luke 12:51)

    • Replies: @anon
  252. anon[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    He meant people would turn against his followers. Not necessarily that Christians would quarrel among themselves, though he knew about that too. Even his disciples would argue among themselves about their rank and standings the way humans do. Christianity unites Christians. Obviously, non Christians may distrust and keep on hating you, be they family members or strangers. On the road to conversion, you will make yourself many enemies.

    Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. (Luke 12:51)

    Jesus said elsewhere that Satan rules the earth by influencing human minds. When Jesus came to the world to upset Satan’s apple cart, divisions were bound to come to the forefront.

    • Replies: @anon
  253. The process of aligning one’s beliefs with one’s practice is hard work. The founders failed in a very bog way that has very big consequences. we inherited that practice of skirting our philosophy for something cheaper.

    I cannot claim a stand on law and order and then proceed to break that standard if it gets me cheaper labor. I cannot complain about identity politics and then proceed to make every utterance based on identity of others, especially not superficial benign traits. I demand a posture of separate but equal and then proceed the other actually is denied the equal. This business of aligning the moral, and the philosophical is personal as ell mas social. And I know that It takes hard work – there’s nothing liberal about it. But I am aware that the more liberal one is the easier it is to just lump everything into one big bowl of sameness.

    Your over generalized concepts about jews and christians, about the NT and the OT are just for that purpose. It permits the kind of careless associations and links to ideas, writings that have little in common but creates a muddy field that enables you and others to go about blithely making all manner of arguments, and do so even when the evidence clearly contradicts your position. It’s the wild west advocacy that avoids being held accountable for one says. When cornered by your own logic, such as it is, you are off on some other tangent.

    Because at the end of the day as with President Jefferson, the price tag is just high to pay for philosophical and moral consistency. America first — sure as long as theirs inconvenience. The Trojan horse is not the OT, it’s the faith, practice and teachings of Christ. And that is what the religious leadership understood immediately in his day. What this man is teaching was undermining what they themselves understood and taught was OT foundation. And they sought every opportunity to put that horse to flame.

    Enter your gentile hero – Pontius Pilate, who knew the man innocent, but for political expediency violated his own conscience. President Jefferson, knew slavery wrong based on the foundations he espoused in the document and like you, at the end of the day, doesn’t have the power to stand — in the face of financial loss and political pressure. What plagued President Jefferson about scripture — more than anything, most likely an attempt to run from its indictment of his own hypocrisy.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  254. “• Revelation 7:4-8 “And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand….Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.”

    You certainly are a scrambler. Show me where that passage calls christians to become or worship jews. This a revelation passage about Israel. That passage deals with jews and i will tread carefully because there is some disagreement whether that is a revelation to come or whether it is long past.

    Again you are leaning suggestion of what you claim the scripture says as opposed to what it actually says. I am curious why you cut that particular passage and not the preceding and post text references. In short that passage discusses not a worship of Israel, nor a call to christians to join the tribes — but instead a gathering in which there is a praise and worship of God by all. But you would go off whining and I would have to contend with your band of other obfuscating clan to blow the smoke of false accusations and assorted tiresome tantrums — because not everyone is intimidated by your antics.

    Now in the past i would have posted the scriptures to demonstrate just how bankrupt your advocacy as you mangle scripture tossing it at your whim, and yet upon examination — it just solidly rebukes your claim and on occasion- even rebukes you.

    Good grief.

    • Replies: @Anon
  255. “Still banging away at those evil white patriarchal Founders, I see.”

    Hmmmm . . .

    I have no idea which of the founders were evil, i do know they violated the foundations of what they espoused regarding the declaration.

    Some might call that evil. But then we oft err in our human purposes.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Art
  256. kikz says:

    Rhetorical gymnastics indeed…. Oh please, now I’m laughing…your first ‘elite comment’ has Jefferson painted as slaver demon “Unless of course those minds were those of blacks, he owned and held in captivity.”, then you proffer Jefferson’s stance on slavery as “cruel war against human nature”, which actually supports my initial comment inre the ‘holy hook’ “….against every tyranny over the mind of man”.

    Your red herring’s eye is cloudy/sunken.. and it smells, as much as your SSD (switch side debate) tactics.

    My original comment/argument was to Jefferson’s Deism, and disdain for ‘the holy hook’.. the subject/topic of the article.

  257. Patricus says:
    @Dube

    I don’t know why historians started using BCE & CE in the place of BC and AD. I could speculate that they wanted their history books to show a dubious objectivity instead of Christian centeredness. As we all know history is not a precise and scientific discipline (to be generous to historians).

    The Julian calendar, developed during Caeser’s reign, estimated that the sun revolved around the earth, or earth around sun, every 365.25 days. By 1500 the religious holiday of Easter, which was supposed to coincide with a Spring solstice, was found to be off about 10 days. Better technology enabled the astronomers to determine the year to be approx. 365.18 days. The new Gregorian calendar, which we still use, was more accurate and it now takes thousands of years to lose a day. Because it was a Catholic enterprise the Protestants refused to use the new calendar. They thought it was a devious attempt by the Catholics to win back Protestants to the church. Britain finally ditched the Julian calendar in the 1700s. Pardon me for slight numerical inaccuracies because I read about all this long ago and I’m too lazy to look it all up again.

    Measurements of time were a religious study in western civilizations and other civilizations. The western measurements were better than other moon cycle time measurements. Trying to remove references to religion with silly conventions like BCE & CE is utterly meaningless and ignorant. By the way, the Central American Mayans had a calendar as good as the Gregorian. When they were conquered by the Spaniards they had a better way of calculating time.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  258. kikz says:

    “Well, suppose one actually adopted this contention on its face. Then it renders the revolutionary war causes merely figments of the imagination in the colonial mind and that war was unnecessary.”

    ahahahahaa! have you ever considered a gig w/Cirque de Soleil?

  259. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vojkan

    Until then, Christianity will remain fair game for atheists, judaists, islamists, moral relativists and all the other various ‘-ists’ out there.

    The seeds of Christianity’s destruction is built into its pagan polytheist mangods-worship. You need not “fear” the atheists, judaists, islamists, moral relativists and all the other various ‘-ists’ out there.

    Christianity is destined to destroy itself from within. The exulting psychopathic supremacist whitey should never know spiritual peace… at least not until he sheds his “supremacy,” his pagan ungodliness, and submits completely to the Almighty One.

  260. Ibn Issam says:

    Islam has an advantage here, since Muslims have always admitted that the Jewish Tanakh is fraudulent. Not that I see Islam as a solution, far from it, but a consensus between Muslims and Orthodox Christians on the problematic nature of the Hebrew Scriptures could be a first step toward emancipation.

    Inarguably, the Christian NT is tethered to the Jewish OT although the two testaments do not dovetail as some Christians would like for us to believe. In fact the OT & NT are often diametrically opposed to each other. This has created much confusion, problems, and theological conundrums amongst Christians for centuries. It also clearly lends to the problems which Laurent Guyénot highlights in his thought provoking article.

    Although Orthodox Christians are less prone to accept the inherent scriptural problems and Jewish exceptional claims in the OT, it does not negate the fact that Biblical Canon of Orthodox Churches are still tied to the OT and there is still a greater likelihood of being increasingly influenced by Judaism over time.

    In contrast the Qur’an is a standalone book, which establishes itself within the Abrahamic tradition, but is not limited by being bound to either Jewish OT or Christian NT Scripture. Muslims recognize that the previous Jewish Prophets from Adam to Jesus received true revelations, but that the message was not perfectly preserved. Therefore, Muslims may recognize some truth in the Jewish Scriptures, but they are also keenly able to see the problematic nature within them as well.

    Therefore, I believe it is much more important for Catholics & Protestants to come to a consensus with the Orthodox Church on the problematic nature of the Hebrew Scriptures, since this is more of a Christian problem, and scripturally speaking, does not really affect the Islamic Scripture.

    As a Muslim, I think it is obvious that Islam is the solution to the problem at hand, since the Qur’an does not borrow its authority from Jewish Scripture, but rather, establishes it’s authority based in Holy Word of Almighty God Allah.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  261. IP Freely says:

    I love the authors honesty and I giggle knowing that he, along with the lions share of adult Jews for the past 2000 years will wake up in Hell the day they die for hating God.

    • Replies: @anon
  262. Parbes says:

    A very good article by Mr. Guyénot, packing in a treasure trove of information and common-sense logical argument. Should be required reading for any even semi-decently educated person, especially today, in preference over all the usual tropes of Holocaustianity and so-called “Christian Zionism”.

  263. Sparkon says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Bravo! Well said, and a good complement to Laurent Guyénot’s fine article.

    So far, no one has found a good 5¢ cure for mumbo jumbo, but we’re working on it.

  264. Sparkon says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Bravo! Well said, and a fine complement to Laurent Guyénot’s excellent article.

    So far, no one has found a good 5¢ cure for mumbo jumbo, but we’re working on it.

  265. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kent Nationalist

    The Bible says that the Church, including all Christians, is God’s chosen people.

    God is not man. So Jesus(pbuh), the man, cannot be God. Such ideas are cursed spiritual abominations.

    How can pagan polytheist mangods-worshippers be “God’s chosen people,” when said pagans don’t submit to God, but to a man?

    You are more like Satan’s chosen people… that is those who the accursed Satan could lead astray.

    [Satan] said, “Because You have put me in error, I will surely sit in wait for them (mankind) on Your straight path. Then I will come to them from before them and from behind them and on their right and on their left, and You will not find most of them grateful [to You].” Quran 7:16–17
    [Allah] said, “Get out of Paradise, reproached and expelled. Whoever follows you among them – I will surely fill Hell with you, all together.” Quran 7:18

    [Satan] said, “My Lord, because You have put me in error, I will surely make [disobedience] attractive to them on earth, and I will mislead them all (the Christians, the Hindoos, …), except, among them, Your chosen servants (meaning, the true monotheist Muslims).” Quran 15:39–40

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  266. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    “He meant.” LOL Thanks, buddy, I don’t need your explainer, I know what “he meant.” What you’re trying to do is explain away the plain meaning of what he meant.

    • Replies: @anon
  267. Art says:
    @anon

    • Art: He asked us to act ideally with each other and ourselves.
    • Jesus: “Hate everyone else—your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even your own life.” (Luke 14:26)

    Whites hating their own kin isn’t exactly “ideal”—except from a Jewish viewpoint.

    Hmm – tell the rest of the story.

    Jesus was trying to toughen up his troops – he was warning them, that if they followed him, they will be hated by their loved ones. How prophetic.

    Here is a copied explanation.

    Luke 14:26, “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.” It seems that, if we don’t hate our family, we can’t be Jesus’ disciple. Or is there more to this issue?

    Following the statement that we must “hate” our father and mother, Jesus relates a metaphor about a man who builds a house without first counting the cost (Luke 14:28–30). The man finds that he cannot follow through with what he set out to do. He leaves the house unfinished because he cannot pay what is required. Jesus’ illustration helps explain His difficult statement about hating our mother and father—namely, we must count the cost of being a disciple. There is a cost, and that is the point of the passage.

    In order to be a disciple, we must be willing to give up everything for Jesus. Following Jesus requires commitment and faithfulness, even if our parents choose not to follow the Lord. If and when we are faced with the painful choice of loyalty to family versus loyalty to Jesus, we must choose Jesus. Even if our family members disown us—or worse—for being Christians, we must follow Christ. It is in this sense that we are “hating” our family. Jesus’ command to “hate father and mother” requires us to prioritize our relationship with Jesus over our relationship with parents, siblings, and other family members.

    https://www.gotquestions.org/hate-father-mother.html

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    • Replies: @anon
  268. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Can’t even type Twelve Tribes of Israel anymore, can you? You’re so stupid, you said it wasn’t there, and I showed it was. You’ve still got a bad case of cognitive dissonance on that. Mangle scripture? No, I just quote it. you don’t like what it says. Solidly rebukes? Yeah, your excuse-making. Scrambling, blowing smoke, tantrums? All your psychological projection.

  269. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @IP Freely

    Jews won’t be in the underworld of Loki’s daughter Hell, just us rough’n’tough Vikings. Its beer, brats, and buxom blonde babes for all.

    You enjoy your marriage as a cravenly submissive boy-Bride of Kike in Jewheaven. Even contemplate why Jewsus banned straight sex in Jewheaven? Remember, it really isn’t a pederastic marriage unless it is consummated, faggot.

    • Replies: @anon
  270. @Laurent Guyénot

    https://www.accordingtothescriptures.org/prophecy/353prophecies.html

    Many Jews did accept Jesus as Messias -they were the first Christian Catholics

    The main reason that many Jews did not understand the prophecies were because they were like you are now – arrogant, proud,, self-righteous – and they like you, were intent on imposing their ideology which is contrary to Divine Revelation.

    There has only ever been one religion – the religion of Jesus Christ

    Religion means bond with God and as it is the case that God established that Bond, and as it is the case that God is one (three persons in one divine nature), He established only one religion.

    After original sin and the fall of man, God re-established that via bond via covenants that grew progressively more inclusive- from a couple to a family, to a tribe, to a nation of tribes, to a universal (Catholic) church in the New Covenant

    Divine revelation was similarly progressive with the old testament jews receiving the revelation of a Messias who would come to save them – and also there were the various holocausts through which praxis the jews were prepared to accept Jesus as Messias when His pluperfect holocaust (The anti type of the OT holocausts) on Calvary (subsuming the four types of OT holocausts) the perfect Salvific act, now daily recapitulated sacramentally in the Holy Holocaust/Mass

  271. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Oh really, good folks don’t like being betrayed by a greedy sellout to the Jews, eh? We know why you worship a Jew, you’re looking for payola, a “hundredfold” promised by the Rabbi to whom you cravenly submit.

    “And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.” -Matthew 19:29

    Are you proud that you’re more clever than Judas, holding out for even more!

  272. mcohen says:
    @X

    Yeah……. but beware the wolf in sheep’s clothing.Also men who wear robes and fishnet stockings.

  273. @anon

    Ver. 22.—Ye worship what (Arabic, whom) ye know not, &c. Here Christ gives a direct answer to the woman, and decides the Jews to be in the right in the controversy concerning the worship of God, condemning the Samaritans as schismatics. He says, You, 0 ye Samaritans, worship ye know not what, because ye worship God together with your Assyrian idols; and associating God as it were with idols, ye worship a false or fictitious God. Again the Samaritans had their own heresies and errors, which S. Epiphanius recapitulates. In the same manner the Turks and Jews worship a God whom they know not, because they deny Him to be in a Trinity of Persons. So also Calvin with his followers, in denying the omnipotence of God, and making Him cruel in condemning some men to hell without any demerit on their part, worship not a true, but a false God. For the true God is Almighty, and most kind.

    2. and better. Ye worship, i.e. ye have a method of worship and sacrifice which ye do not know to have proceeded from God. For ye have framed it out of your own imagination, contrary to the will and law of God. But we Jews know what we worship, because we follow the way of worshipping God which was prescribed by Moses.

    For salvation, &c. Both because I, Christ, who am the Author of salvation, am not born of the Samaritans, but of the Jews, as well as because the true knowledge and worship of God, which leads men to salvation, formerly emanated from the Jews to the Gentiles, and now in the New Law will emanate from Me, a Jew, to all nations.

    The New Testament is a collection of letters written by Catholics to other Catholics in an already existing Catholic Church (The Catholic Church preceded the N.T. ) and it is The Catholic Church
    that decided which letters/books would be included in the NT with one of the major criteria for inclusion in the NT was whether of not that letter/book had been read at Mass.

    You make it quite clear you imagine yourself an expert in these matters but all you are really doing is bragging in your ignorance. You really have no idea what you are talking about

    • Agree: Cleburne
    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  274. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Attacking the Founders, attacking Whites, apologizing for the Jews, and blathering on endlessly about some tangent of a tangent of a tangent that nobody cares about. That’s the normal menu for EliteCon.

  275. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    It’s amazing how Internationalist Jew-worshipers so closely mimic the Internationalist Jew’s “it’s annudah shoah!” shtick.

  276. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    EliteCon, one minute: the tyranny of slavery
    EliteCon, the next minute: I have no idea which of the founders were evil

    Do you have more than two sided of your mouth to talk out of? I wouldn’t doubt it.

  277. Art says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Christianity is a pre-scientific belief system that is entirely hostile to rational explanations of phenomena.

    This hostility to reason, coupled with Christian millennialism that awaited Christ’s supposedly imminent return, was a powerful toxin that disabled the civilizational impulses of white people for almost a thousand years.

    Really!

    How totally ridiculous – Christianity used Greek physics to justify its earth centric theology. Christianity started as creature of its time – but for the next 2,000 years individual Christians were the leaders in science. They were products of Christian universities.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. The Dark Ages were peaceful – there were relatively few wars.

    p.s. Only the Old Testament Jew loving Christian crazies dispute Darwin’s evolution.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  278. @anon

    They quote the Old Testament for the sake of readers of the Old Testament, which is what was around them, not the Vedas. If nobody read the OT there would be no need to quote it, and the NT does not endorse the OT, it simply deals with the facts of life at the time. The Gospels don’t actually quote the OT they make references to it for those who know in order to convince the knowing reader that prophecy has been fulfilled. Remember, that until the Bible was translated into vernacular, nobody read it at all, except the priests, so that population was shielded from what it did not understand.

  279. @Patricus

    It is an abomination for Jews to say “Before Christ” and “anno Domini.” Common Era solves that problem, and detaches Christians from their calendar. What’s not to like?

    • Replies: @Patricus
  280. Art says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I have no idea which of the founders were evil, i do know they violated the foundations of what they espoused regarding the declaration.

    EC: “which of the founders were evil”

    Once a donkey kicked a lion – the lion was dead.

  281. “Can’t even type Twelve Tribes of Israel anymore, can you? You’re so stupid, you said it wasn’t there, and I showed it was. You’ve still got a bad case of cognitive dissonance on that. Mangle scripture? No, I just quote it. you don’t like what it says. Solidly rebukes? Yeah, your excuse-making. Scrambling, blowing smoke, tantrums? All your psychological projection.’

    Incorrect. i said it does not call on christian to worship Jews or christian to become jews, one of the twelve tribes. I did not say that the twelve tribes would not be a reference in the NT.

    It might be a good idea to read and represent what i wrote as opposed to your peculiar mischacterizations. The scripture , and this is nothing new — does not support your claim. You are welcome to

    1. indicate where christians are to worship jews

    2. which section of the passage calls on christians to be one of the twelve tribes. That passage is about the original twelve tribes — and while there is disagreement about when, whether it is literal or metaphor. it does not call upon christians to join any tribe of the original.

    Your tend to fantasize arguments know no bounds.

    • Replies: @anon
  282. “Attacking the Founders, attacking Whites, apologizing for the Jews, and blathering on endlessly about some tangent of a tangent of a tangent that nobody cares about.”

    I did not create the tangent regarding President Jefferson, I responded to it. Let me guess another whine about “hijacking” a thread that has been off the rails within hours of its listing. And no one, but no one side tracks discussion better than those who turn every discussion 180 by noting every issue has the following faults:

    1, jews
    2. blacks
    3. bad whites
    4. i might note the fed, but as they are according to some all owned by jews — it’s near redundant.

    I am afraid that the record is quite clear who in these discussions contends from tangential references. And it’s not I. Laughing.

    __________________________

    I don’t think you will find much in the way of attacking whites. I take note of history and the dynamics between blacks and whites. And should there be room for critique that be as it may. As for criticizing the founders, they criticized each other. And i would remind, that no criticism has been as bereft of veracity, and decency than the comments made regarding the founders who embraced Christ. In fact, the entire enterprise of the Union is under constant assail by those who seek to incorrectly separate the role of christianity has on the nation’s ethos and formation.

    (n this with respect to the founders, you might want to look in the mirror and take note of who is chasing their own tail. On the issue as a whole, it is not a tangent to make note that what the author advances is backwards. It is Christ that is the Trojan Horse a position that is spot on point. It is Christ that undermined judaism, not the other way around.

    Now if wanted to make that case (the OT is the Trojan horse), but it would be recent history. It might start at least with the advent in modern times to 1948, when christians really took notice regarding Israel and scripture and how that has been abused. There would be some room to make the Trojan Horse argument.

    And in end, i stand more with President John Adams — who criticized President Jefferson as well.

    ——————————————–

    “Christianity is a pre-scientific belief system that is entirely hostile to rational explanations of phenomena.”

    Apparently unaware that it was largely christians from multiple faiths that propelled science forward.

    • Replies: @anon
  283. ” . . . one minute: the tyranny of slavery
    . . . the next minute: I have no idea which of the founders were evil

    Do you have more than two sided of your mouth to talk out of? I wouldn’t doubt it.”

    Utterly false.

    I made no reference to slavery being a tyrrany. The issue is that while President Jefferson said it was wrong, contended against no less. noted its predatory nature. Even understood what it was doing to the country. He compromised on his principles That’s the hypocrisy. Not slavery itself. Slavery has been a condition of our human existence across the planet, and practiced in a myriad of ways.

    What poses the problem for President Jefferson and the other founders and thinkers the foundation layed for independence is undermined by their embrace of slavery. And President Jefferson, as chief architect of the document announcing reasons for war — that hypocrisy is made more manifest in him than others.

    The issue is the hypocrisy — that is the blade that essentially destroys the the very cause for the nation’s existence. And in every way the country has been eating itself alive since then. I am going to be direct here.

    I can say this, the embrace of that hypocrisy and the rivers spent defending it — probably comes close to “evil”.

    The hypocrisy about self ownership of mind and body for human beings is the issue, that’s the turn, that betrays them.

    And by the way, I think it was President Jefferson who refers to slavery as tyrrany – not me. That is not the case i make.

    • Replies: @anon
  284. @niteranger

    Yes, it is a simplistic argument. Its intent is to clarify to the ignorant that Jewish or judaism is, among other things,first a religion and is not nor has ever been an ethnic group.
    And you are correct is stating that the Ashkenazim (plural of Askenazi) run Israel. They have no historical ties to the Holy Land and are outstanding bullshitters.

  285. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Ibn Issam

    Ibn Issam says: “As a Muslim, I think it is obvious that Islam is the solution to the problem at hand, since the Qur’an does not borrow its authority from Jewish Scripture, but rather, establishes it’s authority based in Holy Word of Almighty God Allah.”

    “The difference between Christianity and Islam is that some people think a guy walked on water and other people think a horse can fly. Scott Adams . “[Dilbert” creator]

    Regards, onebornfree

  286. ababush says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You are mainly correct with your assessment, except that you do not adress the main issues :
    Is the world better without religion ?
    Can Christianity be useful in a way or another ?

    First, you state : « The heaven of Jesus is not obtained by means of special knowledge, but only faith. No argument about this is allowed, for unlike Socrates Jesus isn’t about discovering the truth, he simply states he IS the truth. » Then « Speculations about the characteristics of imaginary beings are pointless. If that’s what we mean by metaphysics, then there is no such thing as sound metaphysical thinking. »
    Good, let’s go for quantum physics and relativity. The problem is that it doesn’t tell us where life comes from, and if there is something outside the perceived universe… Which means if we do not have interest for some god (what is beyond knowledge), and refuse any metaphysics, then we are left with a purely materialistic world. The result is well known, and it is individualism and ego-centrism, adoration of media creatures, trans-humanism, cynicism and all round pornography. My guess is that a world with a religion and a clergy with a decent doctrine is a better take.

    Second, and most important whether a god exists or not, religions do still exist, and it seems the one named Judaism has had a fantastic effect on its disciples. It appears that this religion is coupled to a project, namely enslavement of the whole humanity. And it appears that Catholicism has always been considered by Judaism as its main enemy.

    Therefore, it is not important whether metaphysics is or isn’t meaningless, and whether you believe or not : the important thing is that they believe, and consider Catholicism as an obstacle to their dominance.

  287. mcohen says:
    @anon

    I dare say old chap does this coin fit your scheme of bullshati

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Jewish_Revolt_coinage

    Long term say what.how revolting.

    • Replies: @anon
  288. @Dube

    If you are so weak that you can’t say BC and AD because it is “politically incorrect” then you must obey those who are more powerful, like a dog on a leash.

    • Replies: @Dube
  289. ababush says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    “supremacy and colonial settlerism have no place in modern morality.”
    Probably. Except that if you contest the right of the chosen people, you are antisemitic. Actually, you do not have the right to say what you say.

    “The bible has nothing to do with Science unlike Greek philosophy.”
    Well, except that the Talmud, the Jewish exegesis of the OT, tells that you can do whatever you want with the body of the gentiles, who are just animals.

  290. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    As far as I can tell, the first commandment of every religion is aimed at all other religions: OUR GOD IS REAL. YOURS IS FALSE.

    That may be true for your pagan religions, but our true monotheism says;

    God is One, and beyond imagination.

    Since the One God of all existence is not, cannot be, some human-like being, where the argument goes that my “Jesus-god” is more real than your “Shiva-god,” how can any theist dispute that the One God is indeed real.

    To illustrate further, consider the following pagan ideologies;

    The Trinity is the teaching that the one God of all existence, consists of three divine persons: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

    The Trimurthi is the teaching that the one God of all existence, consists of three divine persons: the Creator, the Preserver, the Destroyer.

    You see what is common between the two paganisms, yes, One God of all existence… we true monotheists worship the One God of all existence, directly.

    Thus, Islam is above all such disputes. The One God is indeed real.

    The corollary, in some cases, is: IN ORDER TO PROVE THIS, WE WILL WIPE YOU OUT IF NECESSARY.

    Hyperbolic nonsense.

    The second commandment of religions—directed toward their own flocks—THINK WHAT WE TELL YOU TO THINK, BELIEVE WHAT WE TELL YOU TO BELIEVE.

    Again, this applies to your pagan religions, where the idea of taking man/woman/animal for gods is passed down deceitfully by other men and women.

    Not so with True Monotheism, where anybody with half a brain can ponder and comprehend that the following is self-proving;

    Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” Holy Quran 112

    Even those who have never read the Holy Quran, can ponder and come to the same conclusion, that God is One.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @onebornfree
  291. Johan says:

    “The Judeo-Babylonian metaphysical hoax makes God not just ridiculously anthropomorphic, but Judeomorphic. To be fooled by it is to mistake the Creator of the Universe for a topical demon rumbling and spitting fire from a Midianite volcano (Exodus 19), adopted as tutelary deity by a confederation of Semitic nomadic tribes craving for a piece of the Fertile Crescent. It is to internalize an extremely primitive and unspiritual image of the divine that is obstructive of sound metaphysical thinking”

    I love this section especially, well written and much needed (also the article as a whole, aside of some issues..).
    Ain’t it a bummer, to say the least…, that this old fart and monster of ancient times is growing and sticking up its ugly head in our supposedly rational and enlightened, modern, post-Voltaire times… But readers probably know what the great humanist had foreseen about..

  292. Dube says:
    @ploni almoni

    Of course.

    To recognize the status of the locution is not to endorse it.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  293. Seraphim says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    Can’t you see that this Anon behave like a broken record? He is incapable of saying anything but repeating ad nauseam, the same words “Jewsus’, ‘Jew-testament’, you are a “Jew-worshiper’? He obviously has problems with short-term memory caused by dementia. His aggressiveness shows that his frontal lobe is affected too. You cannot have any fruitful discussion with him because of his lack of insight of his condition. You waste your time trying to demonstrate anything to him because demented people ‘resist’.

  294. Many of the people who comment seem to be machines that can’t think. They may find it useful to know that a cowboy is not a boy who is part cow. So when Jesus says “hate your parents” what kind of an idiot takes this literally?

    Very little can be taken literally. And if you take things literally because of congenital autism and are also subjective, there is no hope for you,especially when when you come across a “stop” sign.

    Moslems who think Christians worship a man should be reminded that they pray to a black stone. Well, if they expect some to understand that it is in the direction of a black stone that they pray, not to it, then they should be smart enough to realize that Christians do not worship a a man or a wooden cross nor Buddhists a statue. But it is easier to be prejudiced than to think, isn’t it? Everything feels good then.

    And the God of Christianity is not Yahweh. Obviously. That is one of the differences between Judaism and Christianity. The God of Christianity is universal, not the tribal fetish. But we all come from somewhere.

    Somehow the Catholics use a matzoh for the eucharist. That is like using Manischewitz for the wine. Somebody gave them bad advice. The Orthodox use leavened bread, since it says as plain as day in the Greek New Testament, in both Matthew and Luke: “give us “super-substantial” (hyperousion) bread,” that is, supernatural bread, which is symbolized, at least, by leavened bread, from dough which mysteriously rises. Originally the leaven arrived, they think, from spores in the air before they started using beer as an enzyme and then graduated to yeast, or a ferment derived from a previously leavened bread.

    Jerome knew this. Since he invented the word “supersubstantial” for the bread of the Lord’s Prayer in one place, he understood what was going on, but in the other, he said “daily bread.” Today everyone says “daily” because they would not understand what supersubstantial could possibly mean, certainly not the UNZ crowd, and it is wrong, wrong, wrong. It did say that in the Old Latin translations, and probably they got the explanation from Jews who told them that everyday bread is leavened, but the bread of passover, which is not daily, is unleavened. So right there any fool can understand that the bread of the host is supposed to be leavened.

    But for Jerome to get it wrong in one place, even though he obviously knew better, smells like he took a bribe. And he also must have taken a bribe to use the Jewish Bible for his Latin translation rather than the Greek Septuagint in which the ineffable Yahweh was replaced by “Lord” already 200 BC. And that was the Bible which had interested the Gentiles in the first place. The one which said Most High Lord and not Yahweh, which they knew well as Moloch. But by the fourth century when Jerome started translating, by that time the Hebrew Bible had been deliberately changed from what it was five hundred years earlier “revised and corrected they said” (like the updates say “to remove bugs and improve security”) so that as many as possible, the references in the Greek Septuagint which the Evangelists used as their Bible for their Gospels to show fulfillment of prophecy no longer jived with the new Latin translated from the New Hebrew by Jerome the monk. So there it is. Jerome sold out. It is understandable. We all need money. Especially monks. Good wine is not free, and where is a monk going to get the moolah for the good stuff like the Hebes drink. From the Hebes, of course.

    As for the fulfillment of the Old Testament in the New, it was deliberately written that way. After all, the Evangelists were fully aware that it was a war of propaganda. Ezra invents one thing, the Evangelists invent other. It says in the OT Moses raised the snake on a stick in the air to cure the people of their delusions, so, naturally, the “Son of Man” must be raised on the Cross. And yes, there are hundreds of those clever things. The Jews thought the Messiah was a future king. Well that is why he has a “crown of thorns.” And they even wrote in, to the chagrin of the Rabbis, that the Roman governor himself writes the sign “King of the Jews,” and puts it above the cross! INRI. Clever, those Evangelists, very clever. You find these glosses to the OT by checking the reference notes in say, red ink, on the side of the text in any Christian Bible. And as for the name Jesus, Ezra invented someone who conquered the land for the invented Moses, that is Joshua, because the Pharisees really could not stomach the idea that it was Cyrus who let them go. So, the Evangelists went the Pharisees one better and gave the name of Joshua to their man who, they said, will really lead the people into the promised land, the Kingdom of Heaven which is within you. Some of you, anyway. Not the robots with faulty software pretending to be rational human beings.
    And if you think there is something better, have you considered Scientology? Now there’s a religion for the Common Era.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @anon
  295. Tusk says:

    Laurent, I read this article yesterday and then later upon my reading of The Brothers Karamazov fell upon the following lines from book V, Chapter V: The Grand Inqusitor, which I couldn’t help but think somewhat reflect in spirit the tone of your piece here:

    But the flock will come together again and will submit once more, and then it will be once for all…We shall show them that they are weak, that they are only pitiful children, but that childlike happiness is the sweetest of all. They will become timid and will look to us and huddle close to us in fear, as chicks to the hen. They will marvel at us and will be awe-stricken before us, and will be proud at our being so powerful and clever, that we have been able to subdue such a turbulent flock of thousands of millions…Oh, we shall allow them even sin, they are weak and helpless, and they will love us like children because we allow them to sin. We shall tell them that every sin will be expiated, if it is done with our permission, that we allow them to sin because we love them, and the punishment for these sins we take upon ourselves. And we shall take it upon ourselves, and they will adore us as their saviors who have taken on themselves their sins before God. And they will have no secrets from us…

    That’s not the idea of it in the Orthodox Church…. That’s Rome, and not even the whole of Rome, it’s false—those are the worst of the Catholics, the Inquisitors, the Jesuits!… And there could not be such a fantastic creature as your Inquisitor…We know the Jesuits, they are spoken ill of, but surely they are not what you describe? They are not that at all, not at all…. They are simply the Romish army for the earthly sovereignty of the world in the future, with the Pontiff of Rome for Emperor … that’s their ideal, but there’s no sort of mystery or lofty melancholy about it…. It’s simple lust of power, of filthy earthly gain, of domination—something like a universal serfdom with them as masters—that’s all they stand for. They don’t even believe in God perhaps. Your suffering Inquisitor is a mere fantasy.”…..A fantasy you say, let it be so! Of course it’s a fantasy. But allow me to say: do you really think that the Roman Catholic movement of the last centuries is actually nothing but the lust of power, of filthy earthly gain?

    “A precious admission, in spite of your ‘not a bit the same.’ I ask you why your Jesuits and Inquisitors have united simply for vile material gain?…Seeing all that he turned back and joined—the clever people. Surely that could have happened?”….“Joined whom, what clever people?” cried Alyosha, completely carried away. “They have no such great cleverness and no mysteries and secrets…. Perhaps nothing but Atheism, that’s all their secret. Your Inquisitor does not believe in God, that’s his secret!”

    Evidently long quotes but unfortunately it is hard to trim Dostoevsky due to his style. Firstly it is important to note that the Grand Inquisitor speaking in the first quote is presumably a Jesuit, secondly I find the presumption that “They will marvel at us and will be awe-stricken before us, and will be proud at our being so powerful and clever” shows that the religious aspect of the Inquisitor is not solely that of a preist but instead a reflection of a presumption of holiness. But also the Inquisitor himself describes him and his group as ‘clever’, and later as Aleksy replies to Ivan’s parable says ‘…Seeing all that he turned back and joined—the clever people’ the Inquisitor is therefore rejecting God, in the parable quite literally rejecting Jesus, and instead joining with the ‘clever’ people as previously mentioned. I wonder who these ‘Clever’ people could be?

    Further the secret that this clever group is said to hide is that they are just Atheists, they do not believe in God, but yet contradictory this group of ‘Christian’ want to elevate themselves to the pristine position of being as Gods, or perhaps as being chosen by God to rule over the earth. The Inquisitor describes ruling totally over the people deciding whether they can be married, be happy, have children, a total position of power amongst the other followers of Christ. To me this seems to reflect the current status quo of Jews within the Christian religion taking place all the great giver and sanctifier of right and wrong, even though they should simply be followers of the Lord, they wield power over others.

    I was reminded also of a quote by Dostoevsky who said:

    “If the Jews are given equal legal rights in Russia, but are allowed to keep their ‘State within a State,’ they would be more privileged than the Russians.”

    But to Dostoevsky the identity of the Russian was that of Orthodox Christianity, if Jews were to have their own space they would surely reject this. The quote itself fits in with the theme of The Brothers Karamazov and with Ivan, who tells the parable, but also of an earlier speech where he remarks that the entirety of the State should become the Church so that all who revolt against society and life itself can not find peace with God as their rejection of these values is a rejection of all. Their excommunication is eternal from both State and from God which is a fitting punishment for such mutiny.

    As such following these ideas I believe Dostoevsky understood that fundemental parts of Christianity must be rejected following their corruption though this could reflect only against Catholicism/Protestantism I find it too convincing to think of it as a rejection of the Jewish aspects found within. It is only through the Lord that there can be salvation and those who reject this and elevate other common men to the role of Saviour have invalidated the purity of Christianity. Evidently I am no expert but I found the similarities between this piece and the end of that chapter to convincing to thoroughly ignore.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  296. @anon

    Philosophic or religious Dualism produces circular thinking, solipsism, and narcissism.

  297. Seraphim says:
    @ploni almoni

    The God of the Christians is ‘The Lord your God’/YHWH Elohim, יְהוָה אֱלֹהִים /Κύριος ὁ Θεὸς:

    “‘Worship the “Lord your God”, and serve him only’/’Κύριον τὸν Θεόν σου’ προσκυνήσεις καὶ αὐτῷ μόνῳ λατρεύσεις (Matthew 4:10)
    ‘Love the “Lord your God” with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind’/ ἀγαπήσεις ‘Κύριον τὸν Θεόν σου’ ἐν ὅλῃ τῇ καρδίᾳ σου καὶ ἐν ὅλῃ τῇ ψυχῇ σου καὶ ἐν ὅλῃ τῇ διανοίᾳ σου. (Matthew 22:37)

    Like it or not but this is the God who spoke to Moses:
    “the Lord God made the heaven and the earth/

    ἐποίησε Κύριος ὁ Θεὸς τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ τὴν γῆν (Genesis 2:4).
    “the Lord God took the man whom he had formed, and placed him in the garden of Delight, to cultivate and keep it/ἔλαβε Κύριος ὁ Θεὸς τὸν ἄνθρωπον, ὃν ἔπλασε, καὶ ἔθετο αὐτὸν ἐν τῷ παραδείσῳ τῆς τρυφῆς, ἐργάζεσθαι αὐτὸν καὶ φυλάσσειν” (Genesis 2: 15).
    “I am the ‘LORD thy God’ /”I am Yahweh your God” / אָֽנֹכִ֖י֙ יְהוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֑֔יךָ‎ ’Ānōḵî Yahweh ’ĕlōheḵā/ Κύριος ὁ Θεός σου”.
    ‘Elohim’ is your Lord/Adonai, Kurios, Theos, Dominus. YHWH, the personal God who rules over Israel, is at one and the same time the universal God who rules over all. This, of course, gives headaches to the ‘monotheists’ and ‘polytheists’ alike. How could One be Many? How could Many be One? But, of course they would resist (and refuse) the only rational solution to the conundrum: the Trinity.

    • Replies: @anon
  298. @astro3

    The Exodus is a fictionalized, aggrandized, transformed, return from the Babylonian Exile. The real conqueror is not Joshua, but Cyrus. And the real Joshua is not Joshua, but Jesus. But Ezra can’t wrap his head around that, and it doesn’t serve his purpose which is to control what masses he can for fun and profit. Moses is actually the vehicle to promote Ezra himself, and after Ezra, Moses is the Pharisee Rabbis’ meal ticket.
    The Jews did not have someone who had brought a revelation down from heaven like the others did. Belatedly they invented Moses in Deuteronomy. But then were interrupted by the Babylonians, against whom they could not help but constantly rebel and so the first Temple was destroyed. Ditto for the Second. Ditto for the Third.
    Ezra picked up the story from Deuteronomy after it had been interrupted and enlarged it after he had seen Paree. And when the worms get out of the can, you can only put them back into a bigger can.

    Monotheism, or the awareness of a transcendent reality, was known to many, not just to Akhenaton. Many divinities, including Marduk also called Bel, were not depicted in graven images. Herodotus called him Zeus Belus, and climbed up the Tower of Babel to find an empty throne at the top. The Temple to Marduk in Palmyra Syria was only destroyed four years ago by by Israeli agents pretending to be ISIS. Now it is Deja Vu all over again. It was Notre Dame’s turn.Yahweh is a jealous god.

    It was popular religion which did not have a developed sense of this transcendent reality idea and neither could the masses fathom it. They still can’t. Monotheism, or transcendent religion had not been bottled in a form for the masses, the way Christianity did it, and Christianity did it because it was Zoroastrianism injected into the Semitic mind by the Persian conquest of Babylon.

    • Replies: @anon
  299. EliteCommInc.: “Apparently unaware that it was largely christians from multiple faiths that propelled science forward.”

    Art: “How totally ridiculous – Christianity used Greek physics to justify its earth centric theology. Christianity started as creature of its time – but for the next 2,000 years individual Christians were the leaders in science. They were products of Christian universities.”

    Both of these guys above ignore that to the extent such men were Christians, they were not scientists, and to the extent that they were scientists, they were not Christians. The Christian churches were always more impediments to scientific understanding than anything else. Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake for the heresy of suggesting there were other worlds. Galileo was persecuted. Newton held heretical beliefs in conflict with the Christianity of his day, so he had to keep them secret. His physics and mathematics didn’t arise from his study of the Bible, and had nothing to do with Jesus. And perhaps most fatally for the white race, Christians constituted and still constitute Darwin’s most vociferous opposition. For if Darwin’s theory is correct, man is just a product of evolution like any other animal, not a special creation of God as the Bible teaches, and Christianity is false root and branch. It is most particularly false in its egregious suggestion that the various races can live in peace together, because Darwin’s idea is one of eternal struggle of all against all.

    ababush: “It appears that this religion is coupled to a project, namely enslavement of the whole humanity. And it appears that Catholicism has always been considered by Judaism as its main enemy.

    Therefore, it is not important whether metaphysics is or isn’t meaningless, and whether you believe or not : the important thing is that they believe, and consider Catholicism as an obstacle to their dominance.”

    So if the Jews believe something that’s false, we should believe it too? Because nothing could be more obvious than that Christianity has completely failed when it comes to protecting the white race and limiting Jewish influence. I have to wonder which side people who advocate persisting in a losing strategy are really on.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @Art
    , @ababush
  300. @Seraphim

    None of us is perfect. Only Our Father in heaven is perfect.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  301. @Whats in a name

    Christians and Muslims have been freed from Yahwism. But like Lot’s wife, many look back. And then for the Tele-evangelists there is the profit motive. You too can be free, but you prefer a pseudo-freedom.

    • Replies: @anon
  302. @Alden

    Nesta Webster wrote the best book about the French Revolution.

  303. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    It is hardly Christianity’s mission to defend the White Race. The White Race must do that if it wants to. But Toynbee said, and he appears to be right: civilizations commit suicide. And the White Race has had enough.

  304. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    and was later invalidated by another book

    Any word on when the Uber New Testament is going to be out, invalidating the current thing?

  305. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whats in a name

    Muslims worship Allah, originally the moon-god Allat, the god of Muhammad’s Quraysh tribe. Allat, probably a baal god from the same region, follows the same trajectory as Yahweh, elevated from one of many gods to the supreme being.

    Lol! You godless lowlifes would so love for this to be true. But, sorry to disappoint, Mr.Godless Scum. No matter how many times you degenerates scream this canard, the following truth of Islam’s Monotheism is never going to change, right?

    Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” Holy Quran 112

    So, keep trying, and await the Fire.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  306. renfro says:
    @Dube

    Doesnt come up in German for me…..so don’t know what your problem is..but use goggle translate then

  307. Patrick says:

    Very informative article. Maybe we should revive Roman paganism or Hellenic paganism. I am against animal sacrifices though. I notice some people in the neo-pagan community have practiced animal sacrifice, and that’s not necessary. Greeks often did wine libations as a sacrifice. A person can be pagan without sacrificing animals. People can do wine offerings to the gods.

  308. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Mental illness: Psychologically projecting again, Seraphim? That’s because you’re butthurt that it only takes quoting the Jew Testament to prove Jewsus was a Jew. No, there is no means of denial, which is what you’d consider fruitful, fruitcake.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  309. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    Freed from Yahwism? What sort of nonsense is that? (1 Cor. 5:7 “Christ, our ✡Passover✡ lamb, has been sacrificed.”) Now you’re enslaved to Yahwism again. Or as you call it, pseudo-freedom, Mr. psuedo-intellectual.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  310. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    “the real Joshua is not Joshua” LOL Real trees aren’t trees. Real Frank isn’t Frank. Becuz muh word magic! The Christian intellect is that of a goddam fucking retard. Which is just what Jesus said it had to be: “unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” Jewsus said you’re retarded, and say amen put your hand on the radio, I believe!

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  311. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Abracadabra! “The only rational solution to the conundrum: the Trinity.” Snort! Ridiculously childish word magic isn’t a rational solution to anything.

    “Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.” ~Thomas Jefferson

  312. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    So when Jewsus says “resurrection” what kind of an idiot takes this literally? 🙂

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  313. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Our true monotheism says God is One, and then proceeds to concoct a whole Pantheon anyway, so you alleged monotheists have;

    God (Jehovah/The Father)
    The Christ
    The Holy Spirit
    The Archangels – Gabriel, Michael etc
    Lesser Angels
    The Virgin Mary
    The Apostles
    Mary Magdalene
    All of the saints
    Satan/Lucifer
    The Greater Demons – Beelzebub, Azrael etc
    Lesser Demons

    Yep, that’s what passes for monotheism these days! LOL

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  314. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    You say something. Then you say you didn’t say it. Are you perhaps schizophrenic, and both sides of your mouth haven’t yet been introduced? LOL

  315. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    “I did not create the tangent” says the bald-faced liar who did create the tangent about those evil white male Founders having slaves, in his Antifa Attack on Jefferson.

  316. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Jesus is a Jew. You worship this Jew. Thus, you are a Jew-worshiper. Now let’s watch you weasel out of that in another 5 paragraph miasma of bullshit.

  317. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Art: Only the Old Testament Jew loving Christian crazies dispute Darwin’s evolution. Unfortunately, Art, you haven’t read the New Testament very well, because evolution is incompatible with it, and requires the Creationists’ mythical Adam to establish a reason for salvation. (“For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.” Romans 5:19) The “disobedience of the one man” is a total fiction. Here’s how evolutionary biology proves it is a total fiction, click on the More button to find out:

    [MORE]

    The facts first. Sheehan et al., building on earlier work by Li and Durbin (references in margin), calculated that the minimum population size associated with the worldwide expansion of humans out of Africa roughly 100,000 years ago was 2,250 individuals, while the population that remained in Africa was no smaller than about 10,000 individuals. For population geneticists, this is the “effective population size,” invariably smaller than the census size, so these are minimum estimates, and ones derived from conservative assumptions. The population sizes are estimated by back-calculating (based on reasonable estimates of mutation rates and other genetic parameters) how small an ancestral population could be and still give rise to the observed level and structure of genetic variation in our species.

    Note: 2,500 is larger than two.

    This means, of course, that Adam and Eve couldn’t have been the literal ancestors of all humanity. Normally, such a scientific trashing of scripture could be absorbed, at least by liberal theologians. They’d just reinterpret Adam and Eve as metaphors. But that causes big trouble on two counts…

    Jerry Coyne (2013) Scientists Try to Reconcile Adam and Eve Story, Whiff. Again. New Republic.
    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115759/adam-eve-theologians-try-reconcile-science-and-fail

  318. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Art: Christian crazies

    So much more the reason to not be a Christian. Every Christian is constantly attacking other Christians. No Christian thinks very many other Christians are actually real Christians. Since most Christians think 99% of other Christians are crazies, I’m happy being a non-Christian and thinking 100% of Christians are crazies. We’re different only by a single percent. 🙂

    Where two or three Christians be gathered, there shall be two or three mutually exclusive opinions that shall be settled by constant bickering that often leads to bloodshed. Hell, the bickering that leads to blows is right in the Jew Testament itself.

    But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong. (Galatians 2:11)

    There is the universal constant of Christianity: the other Christian is wrong! More bickering in the Buybull:

    • Ephesians 2:8-9 “saved through faith…not by works”
    • James 2:24 “by works a man is justified, and not by faith only”

    Christian Crazies, indeed. Although it’s a redundant term.

  319. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Got you to stop using the Nordic mythological term for the underworld ruled by Loki’s daughter Hell! 🙂 Now its “the fire!” Oooh, super-scary as the monsters under your bed. Problem is, if heat is a concern, Heaven’s Hotter than Hell The Fire, as physics prove:

    “The temperature of heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is the Bible…”

    Heaven is hotter than hell.
    Aug. 1972, Applied Optics. 11(8) A14
    http://lockhaven.edu/~DSIMANEK/hell.htm

    So you’re still S.O.L. with your Jewish penchant to watch people suffer, dumbass, and you’re the one who’s gonna be hot’n’sweatin’. Especially while you, as a submissive Bride of Kike, consummate that pederastic marriage to your Jewish Rabbi husband.

  320. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    What’s the difference between God and Satan?

    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

    Theodicy solved! 🙂

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  321. @Seraphim

    O, of course I recognise that but I respond in the hope that the lurkers might profit

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  322. Nonsense.

    One who puts faith in Christ is not a Jew. There is a place in scripture that might give room for the matter being pressed. But much to my surprise, no one has yet mangled those passages out recognition.

    Jesus on earth was in fact a jew. That jew who dies upon a cross becomes a transformative figure for something utterly different than the judaic tradition. And he never calls anyone to worship him as a Jew. And you obviously missed these previous discussions, so your simp0lified shirt cut is as shgallow as the but several months ago.

    A jew is one who adhere’s to the Torah,m all five books. And to the same practices accordingly. Jesus Christ by his death and resurrection upends all of that. He is in fact the author’s Trojan Horse. He fulfills the promise and more to something else. And that something else starts with man’s relationship as Adam. Jews represent the vehicle by which that renewal was to happen. But when it does, it is an entirely new dynamic than the one Jews adhered to.

    Furthermore, not a single Apostle refrains, calls for demands or even suggests that christians worship as Jews, in fact, each one says — “jew nor greek . . .” matter when it comes to a relationship with Christ. That is why, they say, what one eats, when one worships, simply is not an issue.

    No. They reject the trap that one becomes a Jew. It’s a something “completely different”. And when Christ was on Earth, he did not preach, okay, when you believe in me — you are jewish. Nothing in scripture supports the notion. And as used, by you and others, a press to start adhering to jewish practice as a must do – for jews — is referred to as evil.

    You are a little late to this discussion, and that hampers your grasp of its content.

    • Replies: @anon
  323. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    Nobody’s going to profit from your shipload-of-fail prophecies.

    “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ -Matthew 16:27-28 (See also, Matthew 24: 25-34, Mark 13:26-30, Luke 21:27-32)

    Well, they’re dead now! Jebus got detoured and arrived for his Second Coming on Pluto maybe? Wouldn’t be the first time Jehovah fucked up an op. The wheels have rusted off the Return bus, and it’s never showing up. May as well start walking away, you’re not going anywhere otherwise.

  324. Patricus says:
    @ploni almoni

    Did Jews initiate CE & BCE. I honestly don’t know. It could have been multi faith, or no faith, atheists for example.

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    , @ploni almoni
  325. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    EliteCon: One who puts faith in Christ is not a Jew.
    • Romans 11:17: You Goyim…have been grafted in…Jewgod’s special olive Jewtree.
    • Ephesians 2:19: So now you Goyim are no longer strangers and foreigners; you are Citizens along with all of Jewgod’s holy Jewpeople.

    EliteCon: something completely different
    • Philippians 3:3: For it is we who are the ✡Circumcision✡.
    • 1 Corinthians 5:7: Christ, our ✡Passover✡ lamb, has been sacrificed.

    EliteCon: And he never calls anyone to worship him as a Jew.
    • John 4:22 We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

    EliteCon: Jesus Christ…upends all of that.
    • Matthew 5:17: Do not think that I have come to upend all of that Law or the Prophets.

    EliteCon: Jews represent the vehicle [$$$]
    • Romans 15:27 Gentiles…owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.

    I don’t even have to say anything of my own; I simply quote the Jew Testament. You’re barking at your own tail like some dumb dog. Which is what Jewsus calls you stupid Goyim who come cravenly begging the Jews for Jewcrumbs from the Jewtable set “only” for Jews, as depicted in Matthew 15.21-28. Get off your knees and quit begging for crumbs, bitch.

  326. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patricus

    It wasn’t Jews who started it. The German scientist Kepler started non-religious dating, using “vulgar era.” And vulgar means nothing more than common, although the modern connotation has changed now to the negative, much like “awful” has, so now we have to use “awesome” for a positive connotation.

  327. “Both of these guys above ignore that to the extent such men were Christians, they were not scientists, and to the extent that they were scientists, they were not Christians.”

    I am not a huge fan of wikipedia but in this issue of people of faith in science and about science it serves well —–

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

    https://www.breakpoint.org/2018/01/breakpoint-scientists-and-christianity/

    ___________________________

    The contend here is an old trope and saddled with old tricks. Sure the debate could be risky concerning advocacy in the early days of the Church.

    However, none of the examples foot the bill for the case being attempted:

    Giordano Bruno was put to death for denying the divine nature of God

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Giordano-Bruno

    And one might want to find out a little about Gallileo before using him as the poster boy for Catholic persecution. The issue for Galli Gallileo was not his science but his impertinence. Among scholars there was always debate. And apparently, Gallileo was over the top for his time, tolerated for his brilliance. But by the time the helio centric unniverse was discussed, it had already replaced most of the understanding on Earth’s place in the physical universe. Gallileo’s crime was calling the Pope a dunce and doing so in a publication. That was the offence. Now the idea seems ridiculous today, calling people names and worse is common place. But Gallileo wielded so much influence that doing so as he did with his publication as a Catholic was bound to cause him grief and it did. his punishment, house arrest, that allowed him to go about the community in which he lived.

    And it would be a mistake to ignore johghanes Kepler a protestant

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kepler/
    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Johannes-Kepler/Keplers-social-world
    https://www.famousscientists.org/johannes-kepler/

    Sir Isaac Newton —
    http://www.ldolphin.org/newton.html
    https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/magazine/article/faith-behind-the-famous-isaac-newton/

    The clash or differences between Sir Isaac Newton and faith had little to do with science, but as with Bruno more to do with his views regarding christian faith. But apparently, Trinity University 9note the name trinity) found him so at odds they waivered his disagreements on faith because they acknowledged his scientific knowledge.

    Excuse me it’s not just christians.

    It never fails that upon examination the case against christianity based on science controversy falls apart. The other gimmick at play here is the trope that controversy among people in the scientific community is limited to disagreements between people of faith and science. But point of fact, the scientific community is born out of debate and disagreement regardless of anyone’s faith.

    Case in point — Darwinian evolution (probably a mischaracterization of the posit, nonetheless)

    https://dissentfromdarwin.org/resources-for-students/why-is-darwinian-evolution-controversial/

    ———-

    Not faith based at all — but endemic in the field of research

    https://www.setthings.com/en/scientific-controversies/

  328. anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • eliteCon: The process of aligning one’s beliefs with one’s practice is hard work.
    • Matthew 19:12 “Choose to live like eunuchs.”

    Sounds like short work with a razor blade to me. Chop, chop! Never met a Jew-worshiper yet who truly believed in what Jewsus said though. You’re just a fake hanger-on, trying to get into Jewheaven on the cheap. Won’t work; Jews are sticklers on their demands like that. Now I’m not recommending following the Rabbi, I’m just saying you should acknowledge your sunk cost, and quit sinking more costs into your fake project of getting into Jewheaven.

    Besides, the underworld of Loki’s daughter Hell is much preferred, being both cooler and full of Vikings with their family jewels intact.

  329. Seraphim says:

    The display of arrogant imbecility that the anti-Christians who disgrace this comment section offer is really mind boggling.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @Anonymous
  330. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vojkan

    Vojkan: I have returned to Serbia for family reasons
    Jewsus: “Let the dead bury their own dead…I am come to set a man at variance against his father…”

    Jewsus was extremely anti-family, and he wouldn’t be pleased you made family a priority. Click the More button to find out what both Jewsus and Paul really thought of your warm kinship:

    [MORE]

    • “Woe unto them that are with child.” (Matthew 24:19, Mark 13:17, Luke 21:23)
    • “Blessed are the childless women.” (Luke 23:29)
    • “It is better not to marry!” (Matthew 19:10)
    • “Choose to live like eunuchs.” (Matthew 19:12)
    • “Hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters.” (Luke 14:26)
    • “Forsake houses…wife, children.” (Matthew 19:29)
    • “Neither marry nor be given in marriage.” (Matthew 22:30)
    • “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” (1 Corinthians 7:1)
    • “Stay unmarried.” (1 Corinthians 7:8)

    Still, not one of our contemporary movements was so outspoken in its antagonism toward the family as was early Christianity. Jesus minced no words: “For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me.”14 When He was told that His mother and brothers were outside desiring to speak with Him He said: “Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother, and my brethren!”15 When one of His disciples asked leave to go and bury his father, Jesus said to him: “Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.”16 He seemed to sense the ugly family conflicts His movement was bound to provoke both by its proselytizing and by the fanatical hatred of its antagonists. “And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.”

    Hoffer, Eric (1951) The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements. Harper. Section #32.

    P.S. Yes, I realize Christians have adapted Christianity to be pro-family, but they did that only by totally ignoring Jesus and Paul’s anti-family values. Good for you to go back to family, but by doing that you’re essentially telling Jewsus to fuck off.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  331. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    German scientist Johann Kepler started the non-religious CE dating in 1615, using “vulgar era,” back in the day when vulgar still mean common, without the negative connotation. The Jew-worshipers blaming Era Vulgaris on the Jews are just saying that so you keep using their Jew-worship dating.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  332. Freedom?
    There are certainly more than 50 shades of freedom.
    Having no freedom like slaves is is not exculpatory. Being a slave means that one person is under total control of other person’
    Absolute freedom has only person living alone on some remote island.
    No person living in society has an absolute freedom.
    Worker in society is dependent on capitalist for the means of live support.
    But Capitalist is also dependent of society buying his products, otherwise he could face bankruptcy.
    Etc;
    So any individual in society is dependent on society, so talking about freedom of individual in the society is absolute nonsense

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  333. Seraphim says:
    @ploni almoni

    Yes, but didn’t the Christ enjoined us to “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect”?

    • Replies: @anon
  334. onebornfree says: • Website
    @anonymous

    “God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos. He will set them above their betters. The same consolation for otherwise hopeless men is to be foundin the concepts of King, President and so on. Such puissant creatures always attract and fascinate the third-rate. It is only an occasional Washington correspondent who can resist the Presidents arm about his neck, the presidential scratch along his back. The favor of such magnificoes gives the inferior man a thrilling sense of importance, of power.” H.L. Mencken

    ” People crave certainties in this world, and are hostile to ifs and buts. The chief strength of organized religion lies in the fact that it provides plain and positive assurance for poor souls who find the mysteries of this earthly existence an intolerable headache, and are uneasy about their prospects post-mortem. In the political field the same appetite for surety is visible, which explains, of course, the prosperity of demagogues. They are simply persons who promise in loud, ringing voices to solve the insoluble and unscrew the inscrutable. At their worst, they are palpable frauds, comparable to so many thimble-riggers at a county fair; at their best they come close to the elegant imbecility of theologians.” H.L. Mencken

    Regards, onebornfree

  335. @Anonymous

    Start thinking. The whole world will appear different. You might not even want to go back to Serbia.

    • Replies: @anon
  336. @Seraphim

    Now, now, next you will start agreeing with the Talmud that God made them to be used without mercy. For as it says: “if you show mercy to the cruel, next you will be cruel to the kind.” I know it is inane solipsism, but these are the times.

  337. Logan says:

    The Judaization of the Roman Church at this time is appropriately symbolized by the adoption of unleavened bread for communion, with no justification in the Gospel.

    Well, that’s just silly.

    The Last Supper took place following the celebration of the Passover by Jesus and his apostles. There would be definition not have been any leavened bread in the house.

    I don’t care what type of bread people use, but I do object to distortions of the historical record.

  338. @Patricus

    This is how you know. Whose interests does it serve? It doesn’t matter who thought it up, it is who implemented it.

  339. @anon

    Spoken like a true monotheist. You are nobody’s fool.

  340. @Dube

    Let your speech be: Yea, Yea, or Nay Nay. Otherwise you may be mistaken for the damned.

    • Replies: @Dube
  341. Robjil says:

    Thanks Mr. Guyenot, Old Testament mania is the biggest and most destructive problem on our planet. Zio Jews and Zio Christians think this OT mania for destruction is a “good thing”. Our “free” press “worries” so much about Climate Change. When in reality, the endless recycling of Old Testament tales is the number one problem on this little planet.

    Purim is a big recycle theme from the OT. The book of Esther

    2019 Purim – Trump says that Golan Heights is Israel’s.

    2011 Purim- The attack on Libya starts.

    2003 Purim- The attack on Iraq starts.

    1991 Purim – The attack on Iraq ends.

    1953 Purim – Stalin poisoned

    1917 Purim – The first Russian Revolution of that year

    Seven nations to destroy for Yahweh’s Israel – Deuteronomy 7. 1-2

    9/11/01 to the present

    Amalek- 1 Samuel 15:3

    “Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

    The fire bombing of civilians in German, French and Japanese cities in WWII.

    The Old testament recycle program which the West and the Soviet rulers have been abusing the world with in the past hundred years is called “noheg l’doros”.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/961561/jewish/Positive-Commandment-187.htm

    “Since these seven nations no longer exist4 a person could think that this commandment is not noheg l’doros [for all generations5]. But only someone who does not understand the concept of noheg l’doros would think such a thing. A command that can be fulfilled without being limited to a certain time is considered noheg l’doros, because if the act would become possible in any generation, the mitzvah would apply. When G‑d will totally destroy the descendants of Amalek and remove them for all time — as will be speedily in our days, as G‑d (exalted be He) promised,6 “I will wipe out the memory of Amalek” — will we say that the mitzvah to wipe out the memory of Amalek7 was not noheg l’doros? This is not true, for in any generation when one finds a descendant of Amalek, he must be killed. The same applies to this mitzvah of killing all descendants of the seven nations, which is a milchemes mitzvah. In every generation we are required to uproot them and search after them down to the last individual. We did this until King David destroyed them completely, with the survivors being scattered and assimilated among the nations until they disappeared.”

    It is “anti-Semite” to want to end this Noheg l’doros program that is destroying our planet. It was a “huge” controversy when a Martin Luther doll had the words “Ende” on a OT that he was holding.

    https://religionnews.com/2017/01/04/how-a-toy-figure-of-martin-luther-sparked-accusations-of-anti-semitism/

    “All was apparently going fine until Micha Brumlik, a retired Frankfurt University education professor and respected Jewish commentator, wrote last June that the popular toy was “anti-Jewish, if not even anti-Semitic.”

    The problem, he said, was the inscription on the open pages of the Bible that the Playmobil Luther holds. On the left is written in German: “Books of the Old Testament. END” while the right page says “The New Testament, translated by Doctor Martin Luther.”

    Why was the word “END” written so prominently, Brumlik asked. “Theologically, there can be no other reason than that the ‘Old Testament’ and its validity should be seen as ended and superseded,” he wrote in the Berlin newspaper tageszeitung.”

    https://religionnews.com/2017/01/04/how-a-toy-figure-of-martin-luther-sparked-accusations-of-anti-semitism/

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @anon
  342. @anon

    You could also call it pseudo-insanity.

  343. @anon

    An idiot who has seen the light.

    • Replies: @anon
  344. @Anonymous

    I think that “Vulgar Era” sounds right.

  345. @Laurent Guyénot

    So Simone Weil “never asked to be baptized because she was disappointed by every Catholic priest she ever met.”

    Well, well,well.

    In the Koran, the Fall of Satan was because God created Adam and said to the Angels bow down to Adam. (‘Cause Adam had something the Angels don’t: self knowledge). All the Angels did as they were told, and bowed down to Adam except for Satan, who refused because he said:
    “You made Adam of clay but me you made of fire, so I will not bow down to clay.”
    So God said to Satan “This is no place for pride. Get out” and Satan said,
    “I will go but I will set traps for this Adam of yours.”….

    So you could say that Simone Weil was baptized by Satan. That explains a lot. We say “it is in the Koran,” but it is also in the Epistle of James the Just since the Koran is mostly the Ebionite stuff that didn’t make it into the Gospels. You could also say it is in the Book of Life. Pride goeth before a fall, doesn’t it?

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  346. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    ὁ Πατὴρ ὑμῶν ὁ οὐράνιος τέλειός ἐστιν (Matthew 5:48)
    “Your father who is Uranus is perfect.”

    There’s no prepositional “in” in there. Careful now.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  347. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    The imbecility is all yours, if the Jew Paul is correct. In addition, he says his dupes were ignoble. “Not many of you were wise by human standards…not many were noble.” (1 Co. 1:26) I suppose now you’re going to call Paul anti-Christian too for getting your Jew-worshiping panties in a twist. P.S. Mote, Beam, and all that.

  348. Che Guava says:
    @anon

    That is quite recent. If you knew a little more than you think you do, and I were to explaining, you would know a little more. However, it is far better that you remain in ignorance.

  349. @Robjil

    You forgot one. As it says in Ohr Somayach:

    “On 1 October 1946, after 216 court sessions, the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg delivered its verdicts sentencing the leaders of the Nazi party to death by hanging. The author of the following account, Kingsbury Smith of the International News Service, was chosen by lot to represent the American press at the execution of ten of those leaders.

    Nuremberg Gaol, Germany
    16 October 1946
    International News Service

    …Julius Streicher made his melodramatic appearance at 2:12 a.m.
    While his manacles were being removed and his bare hands bound, this ugly, dwarfish little man, wearing a threadbare suit and a well-worn bluish shirt buttoned to the neck but without a tie (he was notorious during his days of power for his flashy dress), glanced at the three wooden scaffolds rising menacingly in front of him. Then he glanced around the room, his eyes resting momentarily upon the small group of witnesses. By this time, his hands were tied securely behind his back. Two guards, one on each arm, directed him to Number One gallows on the left of the entrance. He walked steadily the six feet to the first wooden step but his face was twitching.
    As the guards stopped him at the bottom of the steps for identification formality he uttered his piercing scream: ‘Heil Hitler!’
    The shriek sent a shiver down my back.
    As its echo died away an American colonel standing by the steps said sharply, ‘Ask the man his name.’ In response to the interpreter’s query Streicher shouted, ‘You know my name well.’
    The interpreter repeated his request and the condemned man yelled, ‘Julius Streicher.’
    As he reached the platform Streicher cried out, ‘Now it goes to G-d.’ He was pushed the last two steps to the mortal spot beneath the hangman’s rope. The rope was being held back against a wooden rail by the hangman.
    Streicher was swung suddenly to face the witnesses and glared at them. Suddenly he screamed, ‘Purim Fest 1946.’ [Purim is a Jewish holiday celebrated in the spring, commemorating the execution of Haman, ancient persecutor of the Jews described in the Old Testament]…
    Streicher had been a Nazi since early in the movement’s history. He was the editor and publisher of the anti-Semitic newspaper “Das Strummer.” In May of 1924 Streicher wrote and published an article on Purim titled “Das Purimfest” (The Festival of Purim). In order to publish his vitriolic attack Streicher must have had a good deal of knowledge about Jewish thought and practice. However we can only speculate to what extent he was aware of the remarkable parallels between Haman and his own execution. However, they are indeed striking:

    “And the king said to Esther the queen, ‘The Jews have slain and destroyed five hundred men in Shushan the capital, and the ten sons of Haman…Now whatever your petition, it shall be granted; whatever your request further, it shall be done.’

    Then said Esther, ‘If it please the king, let it be granted to the Jews that are in Shushan to do tomorrow also as this day, and let Haman’s ten sons be hanged upon the gallows.’ ” (Esther 9:12-14)

    If Haman’s ten sons had already been killed, how could they hanged?

    Our Sages comment on the word “tomorrow” in Esther’s request: “There is a tomorrow that is now, and a tomorrow which is later.” (Tanchuma, Bo 13 and Rashi, Shemot 13:14).

    In the Megilla, the names of Haman’s ten sons are written very large and in two columns. This is in distinct contrast to the style of the rest of the Megilla. The left-hand column contains the word v’et (and) ten times. According to our Sages the word v’et is used to denote replication. The inference is that another ten people were hanged in addition to Haman’s ten sons.

    If we examine the list of Haman’s sons three letters are written smaller: the taf of Parshandata, the shin of Parmashta and the zayin of Vizata.

    Those three letters together form taf-shin-zayin, the last three numbers of the Jewish year 5707, which corresponds to the secular year 1946, the year that those ten Nazi criminals were executed.

    The Nuremberg trials were a military tribunal and thus the method of execution was usually by firing squad. The court, however, prescribed hanging. Esther’s request “Let Haman’s ten sons be hanged” echoes down the ages,

    Equally uncanny is that the date of the execution (October 16, 1946) fell on “Hoshana Rabba” (21 Tishrei), the day on which G-d seals the verdicts of Rosh Hashana for the coming year.

    As the Megilla recounts, a decree that the king has sealed cannot be rescinded, and thus Achashverosh had to promulgate a second decree to allow the Jewish People to defend themselves. In other words, that first decree was never nullified.

    Our Sages teach us that eventually the Jewish People will return to G-d either voluntarily, or if not, G-d will raise up another despot whose decrees will be “as severe as Haman” (Sanhedrin 97b).

    When we look toward the place of our original encounter with Haman and see the rise of a fanatic whose rhetoric rivals our most vicious enemies, we should remember that history most often repeats itself for those who fail to learn its lessons.”

    Uncanny, isn’t it? Almost as if someone was planning it and puppets were putting on a play. What is the lesson here?

    • Agree: Robjil
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    , @Robjil
  350. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    Start thinking? But Rabbi Jewsus said exactly the opposite.

    “Thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.” (Matthew 11:25)

    Plus he said his followers have to go full retard.

    “Except ye be converted, and become as little children.” (Matthew 18:13)

    Jewsus’ Jew-worship is most certainly not for thinkers.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  351. Che Guava says:
    @ploni almoni

    I think you need to reading much more before you are saying such things.

    There is nothing of beauty or the transcedent in the Khoran, its arrangement is also deceptive and stupid.

  352. Che Guava says:
    @ploni almoni

    What is the lesson there?

    Perhaps that you are a crazy zionist?

    I was reading, with care, your sequence of posts, and ‘lunatic Zionist’ seems to be the description that is the closest fit

    • Agree: ploni almoni
  353. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    So the fictional character Jewsus spoke of resurrection, but pagan-Christian tradition believes in the Platonic eternal soul. These two afterlife narratives are incompatible; if one has an eternal soul that goes on after death, why do they need a resurrected body, anyway? And if you try to say you believe both, well, when your old body resurrects into a golem to magically reload into your already eternal soul, is your old brain’s thinking going to conflict with your magical eternal soul’s thinking? Will you have to zap your old golem brain to make a blank slate, and re-write over the RAM as it were?

    And before you go full snark, these are serious questions scholars have pondered, e.g., “Immortality of the Soul or Resurrection of the Dead?: The Witness of the New Testament” by Oscar Cullmann (Wipf and Stock Publishers, 2000.)

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  354. ploni almoni: “It is hardly Christianity’s mission to defend the White Race. ”

    Nevertheless, it’s been the constant refrain of Christianity’s apologists on the right that the Christian religion is necessary for the defense of whites. Dr. Kevin MacDonald has even developed this idea into what he calls the white “evolutionary strategy”. If so, as I said, it’s obvious it has failed miserably.

    ploni almoni: “But Toynbee said, and he appears to be right: civilizations commit suicide. And the White Race has had enough.”

    An offshoot or variant of this notion of Christianity as a racial defense is that if the Jews hate Christianity, then that must mean that it’s good for whites. But of course, the Jews hate a lot of things, including (presumably) being burned alive. Does that mean then that whites should immolate themselves and their civilization, just to spite the Jews? Maybe that explains Christianity’s attraction!

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  355. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robjil

    Zio Christians. And that’s the only kind there is.

    • Matthew 21:5 “Say to Daughter Zion, ‘See, your king comes to you.”
    • John 12:15 “Do not be afraid, Daughter Zion; see, your king is coming.”
    • Romans 9:33 “See, I lay in Zion a stone…”
    • Romans 11:26 “The deliverer will come from Zion…”
    • Hebrews 12:22 “Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem.”
    • 1 Peter 2:6 “See, I lay a stone in Zion.”
    • Revelation 14:1 “Standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000.”

    Although there are quite a few, who like Peter, deny, deny, deny to others what they know to be true themselves.

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  356. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Controversy of the freedom of the Jews.
    (I have never seen any Jews in unemployment line.)
    Jews living in any society are yearning to be independent of that society. Their aim to fulfill their yearning for freedom they create their own businesses. They are not relying on government handouts in time of need. They do not want to be a part of the society they live in.
    They completely disregard the fact their living is dependent on the goym society where they live.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  357. “• eliteCon: The process of aligning one’s beliefs with one’s practice is hard work.
    • Matthew 19:12 “Choose to live like eunuchs.”

    —————-

    You are talking about the following discussion — here it is in context — once again the passage in light of the subject says something completely different. Posted at risk of getting the boot. However, in light of the constant practice of mangling meaning —

    “3Then some Pharisees came and tested Him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any reason?”

    4Jesus answered, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female’a 5and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’b ? 6So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”

    7“Why then,” they asked, “did Moses order a man to give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

    8Jesus replied, “It was because of your hardness of heart that Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but it was not this way from the beginning. 9Now I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman, commits adultery.”c

    10His disciples said to Him, “If this is the case between a man and his wife, it is better not to marry.”

    11“Not everyone can accept this word,” He replied, “but only those to whom it has been given. 12For there are eunuchs who were born that way; others were made that way by men; and still others live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.””

    https://biblehub.com/bsb/matthew/19.htm

    ————————————

    I have some other issues to tend to. But in leaving this discussion I would introduce the following reference in response to any demand that Jesus called christians to be Jewish. When the Apostles asked Christ how they should pray. there’s not a single reference to acting in accordance with a the myriad of prayers in psalms or elsewhere, not one. In fact, Christ rocks the Jewish world with the Lords prayer.

    “Our father . . . ” this to people won’t even use the term for God. And Jesus is telling them to call the same

    “Father”.

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    , @anon
  358. @anon

    There is written in Greek ὁ οὐράνιος, not ὁ οὐράνος. οὐράνιος means “heavenly”, which can also be freely translated as “who is in heaven”. BTW, οὐρανός (notice the shift of the stress to the last syllable), literally means “heaven”. The Greek god Uranus was a personification of the Sky.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Seraphim
  359. anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Means “heavenly”? Wrong. It means Uranus. Translators translated it “heavenly” out of embarrassment at the reference of a pagan god. Personification of the Sky? Oh, so now the pagans didn’t actually believe in gods, just personifications. Gotcha. LOL! You’ll flip-flop on that with the next breath, just like every other jew-worship apologist.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  360. anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I figured you’d drudge up the context canard again that has become an internet joke here: CONTEXT!!!!! Why’d you skip the first 2 verses of the chapter, hmm? Remember, unless you quote at least 300 verses in a row, you’ve taken a passage it out of context. So you didn’t quote enough! lol

    Here’s your context: Rabbi Jewsus was a pedarastic pervert who:

    1. Wanted men to be his Bride.
    2. Wanted them emasculated and mutilated so they wouldn’t be normal straight guys.
    3. Publicly snuggled like a San Francisco flamer with his boy-lover John.
    4. Denounced straight marriage more than once.
    5. Denounced reproduction.
    6. Denounced family.

    Jeesh, typical jew faggot today, eh? Nothing much has changed in 2000 years.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  361. Robjil says:
    @ploni almoni

    I knew about it. Thanks for adding it for everyone’s knowledge. There are so many Zio passion plays in the past hundred years of Zion rule. The Nuremberg trial is the Zio passion play par excellence. I mentioned just a few examples to let people know what is going on. Zion change of the last hundred years is the world’s biggest and most destructive problem on our planet.

    It is ironic that Zionists have been going crazy for decades about the Oberammergau passion play. They keep pushing the town to make the play less “Anti-Semitic”. No one was ever hurt or killed in the Oberammergau plays. No lies are used in the play. Yet, the Nuremberg trial Zionist Purim passion play was carried out with gigantic lies, extreme brutality and murder. All this was done for the Zionists to play out Old Testament fantasies with no outcry from any Gentiles. The Nuremberg trials were a Purimfest that was carried out to the highest and cruelest level.

  362. anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Good analogy there, Dr. Morgan! I’ve always used this analogy: Stalin assassinated Trotsky, but that doesn’t mean anti-communists need to be disciples of Trotsky to be anti-Stalinist. Picking sides between Jews and Jesus is a false dilemma. Let the Jews settle their own spats. We don’t have to take a position on Jewish conflicts. As Nietzsche pointed out, who cares if there is one Jew less or not?

  363. anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    > not a single reference…psalms or elsewhere, not one

    Liar. Jesus and the Gospel writers made positive references to the Old Testament all the time. Because Christianity is a Jewish cult. I won’t bother to list all 696 direct quotations and 4,105 reference to the Old Testament that are in the New Testament, because Zondervan had to print a huge book just to deal with that.

    Rocks the Jewish world? LOL, that’s a desperate term. Jesus himself stated his ministry was solely to the lost sheep of the House of Israel (Matthew 15:24).

  364. @Tusk

    Very interesting. The more I study about the history of christianity, the more I come to realize how Jewishly satanic was the Roman Catholic world order imposed in Western Europe from the 11th century, and Rome’s crucifixion of Byzantine christendom through the crusades, which somehow places Orthodox christianity in a very different position from the Catholic church (from a karmic viewpoint, so to speak).

  365. Art says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Both of these guys above ignore that to the extent such men were Christians, they were not scientists, and to the extent that they were scientists, they were not Christians. The Christian churches were always more impediments to scientific understanding than anything else.

    Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake for the heresy of suggesting there were other worlds. Galileo was persecuted.

    Why do intellectuals routinely deny the power of culture in the mix of what matters.

    “Scientists were not Christian because they pushed the boundaries of theology.”

    This is the same false argument that says, America was not a Christian nation. The people of America were Christians – their culture was Christian – many of their leaders were deists – but the operational pathos, the intellectual environment was Christian – the idealistic mindset “that all men are created equal” is Christian. America happened only because of the idealism of Christianity.

    The same goes for science. Euro science was surrounded by Christianity – England was a Christian nation that valued science – it put a cultural premium on discovery. Newton and Faraday were not on the Pope’s “A” list – but they were Christian. Culture counts – the big picture counts – good things grow out good ingredients. Clearly Christianity is not fallow.

    It is small minds that do not give credit, where credit is due. It is time that the intellectual world sees the forest – not just the individual giant trees.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
    , @Anonymous
  366. @Anonymous

    Verily I say unto you, &c., in His kingdom. Syriac, into His kingdom. Christ promised that a reward in the heavenly kingdom should be given for good works of self-denial and the cross. Now, lest any one should find fault that it was to be put off for many ages, He shows that it was in reality near; He shows that very kingdom in the transfiguration, after a few days, to some yet alive.
    Shall not taste of death, i.e., shall not die. It is a metaphor taken from the deadly cup which was given to persons condemned to die.

    In His Kingdom. You will ask what was this kingdom of Christ; and when some of the Apostles standing there beheld it? S. Gregory answers (Hom. 32, in Evang.), and Bede, that this kingdom of Christ was the Church, and its diffusion throughout all nations, which verily the Apostles beheld, yea, brought about. Christ says this, says S. Gregory, that from the spread of the Church’s kingdom, which they were about to behold, they might learn how great would be their future glory in the heavenly kingdom, which in this life is invisible. For God, by the visible things, which He sets forth, confirms the hope of the invisible promises. And, 2. Some think that it was to take place at the resurrection, and in the day of judgment, of which Christ spake in the preceding verse. But I say it took place in the Transfiguration of Christ. For in it they beheld Christ’s glorious kingdom as in a glass. Three of the Apostles, namely, Peter, James, and John, had a foretaste of this kingdom. This view is plain from what follows. All the three Evangelists who relate the Transfiguration, place it immediately after this promise, as though it were the fulfilment of it. Thus SS. Hilary, Chrysostom, Jerome, Ambrose, Theophylact, and others, passim. Whence S. Leo says (de Transfig.). In the kingdom, that is in royal splendour. For in His Transfiguration Christ gave to His Apostles a specimen of the glory, the joy and the happiness which the Saints shall obtain in the Heavenly Kingdom, that He might thereby animate them to Evangelical labours and sorrows, and that they might animate others to the same. After the same manner S. Jerome animates Eustochium. “Go forth,” he saith, “for a little space from thy prison, and picture to thine eyes the reward of thy present labours, which eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath it entered into the heart of man. What sort of day will that be when Mary the mother of the Lord shall meet thee with choirs of virgins? When after Pharaoh with his host has been drowned in the Red Sea, she shall sing the antiphon to the responsive choirs, as she bears the timbrel. Let us sing to the Lord, for he hath triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider hath He thrown into the sea. Then shall Thecla joyfully fly to embrace thee. Then too the Spouse Himself shall meet thee, and shall say, Arise and come, My kinswoman, and My fair one, for lo the winter is passed, the rain is over. Then the angels shall wonder and say, who is this that looketh forth as the morning, beautiful as the moon, chosen as the sun? Then the little ones, lifting up the palms of victory, shall sing with concordant voice, ‘Hosanna in the Highest! Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the Highest!’ Then the hundred and forty and four thousand before the Throne, and before the Elders shall hold their harps, and shall chant the new song.”

    +++++++++++

    You might want to memorise 2 Peter 3:16 for that teaching anticipates the proud and arrogant men like you

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  367. anon[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    It is small minds that do not give credit, where credit is due? I agree. The US is European, founded on ancient pre-jew-worship Greek and Roman traditions, and is particularly Epicurean. Pursuit of happiness is an Epicurean term, as noted here:

    As you say of yourself, I TOO AM AN EPICUREAN. I consider the genuine (not the imputed) doctrines of Epicurus as containing every thing rational in moral philosophy which Greece and Rome have left us.
    […]
    Syllabus of the Doctrines of Epicurus
    […]
    Moral – Happiness the aim of life

    — Thomas Jefferson to William Short, October 31, 1819
    http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/jefflet.html

    You gonna give credit or not, hmm?

    • Replies: @Art
  368. anon[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    Thanks for the reference to 2 Peter 3:16; it proves my point that I made it comment #323 that Christians are constantly denouncing other Christians teachings and beliefs as “untaught and unstable.” Or worse, and even killing each other all through Christian history. Hell, it’s right in the Buybull that two high-falutin “apostles” got physical over their religious bickering, “But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong.”

    Here are some examples of the bickering:

    • Jesus: Call no man your father. [MT 23.9]
    • Paul: You have only one spiritual father. For I became your father… [1CO 4.15]

    • Jesus: You have received without payment, so give without payment. [MT 10.8]
    • Paul: Those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel. [1CO 9.14]

    • Jesus: Follow me. [MT 9.9, MK 2.14, LK 9.59, JN 1.43]
    • Paul: Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me… [1CO 4.16]

    LOL Pick a side!

  369. anon[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    > idealistic mindset “that all men are created equal” is Christian.

    Oh, so Voltaire, Rousseau and Montesquieu of the Age of Enlightement are shining examples of Christianity! Woohoo! Might want to ask some of your fellow Jew-worshipers about that, Art, but be careful asking, they might kick you out of church. lol

    Thomas Jefferson, through his friendship with Lafayette, was heavily influenced by French philosophers of the Age of Enlightenment, such as Voltaire, Rousseau and Montesquieu. In their often censored writings, those philosophers advocated that men were born free and equal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal#Origin_of_Thomas_Jefferson’s_use_of_the_phrase

    Hmm, I wonder who was doing the censoring? Could it be….Satan Christians? LOL

    You Jew-worshipers try to (1) take credit for everything good in the world, (2) blame everything bad in the world on insufficient devotion to fervent Jew-worship. I’ve seen rabid Pastafarians do the same shtick with their Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    Anyway, are you going to now give credit to Voltaire, Rousseau and Montesquieu, or are you going to be, in your own term, small-minded?

  370. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Euro science was surrounded by Christianity, true, and Christianity opposed natural science violently. For example, Galileo Galilei was tried and condemned by the Roman Catholic Inquisition in 1633 for his support of heliocentrism.

    Christianity began as an anti-science cult, with Paul mocking Epicurus’ atomism. I’ve included a long excerpt from Norman Dewitt’s text St. Paul and Epicurus. (University of Minnesota Press, 1954) behind a more button in my comment #129 that begins with this sentence: “It was the logic of the cross against the logic of the atom, an early phase of the long strife between science and religion.”

    You’d do well to give credit to the revival of Lucretius and Epicurus for the revival of science in anti-science christianity-plagued dark ages, as extensively covered by Stephen Greenblatt (Ph.D. Yale) in his text The Swerve: How the World Became Modern.

    BTW, “the Swerve” is Epicurus way of explaining how atoms work, whose atomic theory Paul mocks when he wrote en atomō en rhipē ophthalmou in 1 Corinthians 15:52. Well, who’s mocking now, jackass! As they say, turnabout is fair play.

    Christianity was founded on mocking atomic theory, and now Christianity is as obsolete as any other pre-atomic theory notion like alchemy. That reality is a bit different than your glowing apologies.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  371. mcohen says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Ah so ah so.
    Eventually you had reveal your true intentions.
    Why waste your time with all your esoteric mumbling.Chritianity like most relegions has only one purpose and that is to spread the butter evenly on the loaves.Kindness to club members with charity and support for the down and out.Relegion provides social services and idle minds speculate about crap.Typically it is the women who bear the brunt with the male high priests urging them on.
    The fact that relegion is a constant in a ever changing society means the social services are reasonably consistent and not reliant on the politics of baffle that the ruling classes dish out.
    I know one thing from personal experience.Judaism has a great support system.Jewish care looks after its members regardless of the society it is part of.Very seldom do people fall through the cracks.

    There is only “One Road”

    [MORE]

    We all stand naked before the Lord,
    Without crown,without shoes.
    From the day they cut the cord,
    Till the day we pay our dues.
    We get only what is poured,
    No more and no less.

    Earn dignity with your labour,
    Give alms to the poor.
    With tyrants curry no favour,
    Let the righteous endure.
    Have no grudges to harbour,
    With wisdom you can be sure.

    So hurry not on the road to hell,
    The gatekeepers await.
    For they can foretell,
    The story of your fate.
    The final ring of the bell
    As the hour grows late.

    Mcohen

  372. Art: “…the idealistic mindset “that all men are created equal” is Christian. ”

    It surely is, and the racial egalitarianism it spawned is proving the death of the white race. John Locke, the father of liberalism and a man quite influential among the Founding Fathers, was a Christian theologian who derived his arguments from the Bible.

    Art: “It is small minds that do not give credit, where credit is due. ”

    I would be happy to give Christianity credit for science, but you have failed to show any necessary connection between science and Jesus or the Bible. You could do so if you could show how belief in the fiction of Jesus and the other tall tales of the Bible directly led to the development specific scientific theories, but you haven’t. Further, it’s surely a great irony that the same scientific, materialist view of reality that you want to say owes its origins to Christianity is now the greatest driver of atheism. Belief in science and applied science in the form of technology have largely displaced belief in Jesus all over the developed world, and this move to a de facto atheism is continuing to pick up speed. But in my view, science developed despite Christianity, not because of it. It also seems reasonably clear that its development would have come sooner had not classical civilization been overthrown by Christian fanatics, and it would have proceeded faster if not constantly hampered by Christian obscurantism. Without the blow delivered by the coming of Christianity, it’s quite conceivable that scientific knowledge would be almost a thousand years ahead of where it stands today. Man might actually have achieved immortality, rather than just hoping for it.

    • Replies: @Art
  373. Art says:
    @anon

    Syllabus of the Doctrines of Epicurus
    […]
    Moral – Happiness the aim of life

    — Thomas Jefferson to William Short, October 31, 1819

    Jefferson also created the “Jefferson Bible” that eliminated a whole lot of nonsense.

    Clearly as an imperfect individual Christian, Jefferson was open to different ideas. That is why Christianity prospered. Clearly Christianity survived its hard nosed preachers. Idealistic Christianity is not stagnant – it goes for the good where it finds it.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  374. Robjil says:
    @anon

    Who cares? The Zio Christians are not in power. The Zio Jews are. Zio Christians are order followers. The Zio Jews are in power. They call the shots. Read the Controversy of Zion by Douglas Read. Guyenot’s From Yahweh to Zion is also a good read about this.

    France had a Revolution that got rid of Christian rule. Yet, now France is so “secular” that it supports all Zionist’s causes. It bombs Syria to help Isis Zionist puppets.

    Scandinavia is so “secular”, yet it supports the Isis puppets too. Norway was one of the big bombers that destroyed Libya for Israel. Denmark bombs Syria to help Isis Zion puppets. All Scandinavia welcomes any Isis Zion puppet with open hands. They all support Zion puppet White Helmet terrorists.

    Secularism or anti-Christianity will not help the west. A rigorous and thorough critique of the Old Testament values is the only way the West will regain its strength and be free again.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  375. @Laurent Guyénot

    You must study more because your citing of what The Catholics did to their brothers in the east, while lamentable and indefensible, what the eastern brothers did to Catholics is of a similar malign vein but we in the west rarely if ever read of those atrocities.

    I

    https://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2017/01/reflections-sack-constantinople-1204-lesser-known-byzantine-atrocities.html

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  376. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Reality Check: Brighton Beach receives food stamps and medicaid while driving Mercedes. So does every Hassid group in America and Canada, plus their religious schools are financed as public schools.

  377. anon[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Even Richard Dawkins calls himself a “Cultural Christian.” Your “Idealistic Christianity” will be denounced by the vast majority of Christians as atheism, just as Jefferson, who also called himself a Christian, was denounced as a “howling atheist” by the Federalists in the “barroom brawl” Tumultuous Election of 1800. And remember, since you’re comparing yourself to Jefferson, that he he both hoped for the “a quiet euthanasia of the heresies of bigotry and fanaticism” of what he termed ultra-Christian sects and forlornly admitted that “I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know.”

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  378. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robjil

    ZioJews are in power because ZioChristians are Trump’s MIGA base.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  379. Art says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I would be happy to give Christianity credit for science, but you have failed to show any necessary connection between science and Jesus or the Bible.

    Without the blow delivered by the coming of Christianity, it’s quite conceivable that scientific knowledge would be almost a thousand years ahead of where it stands today. Man might actually have achieved immortality, rather than just hoping for it.

    It appears that one culture is more amenable to science. What does history say?

    Hmm — Confucius – Hindu – Buddhist – Muslim – Christian?

    Hmm — Maybe the culture that the life of Jesus fostered turned scientific and productive – and the others did not?

    Hmm — they say that the proof in in the pudding — got a spoon?

    Think Peace — Art

  380. Art says:
    @anon

    Thank’s about Jefferson – the more I know about him – the more he grows in my estimation.

    Jefferson is the true intellectual of the founders. He was the champion of local government. Today Hamilton’s big government has won out.

    Jefferson was so right about the free press – but today’s press is not free – it is owned by one cabal – Jews.

    In his time the “tyranny of the majority” was feared – today we have a tyranny of a minority.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @anon
  381. I often times meditated upon the concept of a MONotheistic God…If God is all good why evil?? is it a dual God? Many explanations will follow supporting the MONOtheistic “concept”..and yet teh question remains. Although Jews claim to be the fathers MONotheistic world views fo the benefit of the (savages) Gentiles non jews…it will be fair to remember that Egyptians were the First ones to propose teh concept. This ams validate teh claim that Judaism is a plagarism of early Egyptian Gnosticism. But that will still not explain evil upon teh world. The ancient Mesoamerican Nahuat cultures believe in ONE original source of many animas positive/negative virtues collading in the universe (dialectics) virtues vrs Vices. I find that concept more appealing than any of the MONOtheistic religions. And yet I do not undertsand why NONjews believe Jewish theology, books, arguments as rock solid concepts. Human concepts are all fallible none is more valid (truth) than others, in a FREE human fallible world, but jews are the only group that seeks to inpose its beliefs upon humanity without any critisism. I question why should nonjews follow a jewish religious figure, are we being had? played? from Jesus times to teh present…was it all planned (Paul). If thats is so It ispuzzling to me the jewish rejection of Christianiity from its very historical onset. Nonjews wordshipping a JEW, his followers, his teachings, his RELIGION. Why? This was the most valuable/brilliant/golden opportunity to dominate NONjews. To create a (jewish) Religion for NONjews and thus consumate jewish power upon gentiles. Paul was the brain/pioneer/the main architect/marketer the CREATOR of Judaism for gentiles its called Christianity…How can jews rule over the Roman world being a tiny minority population..the best possible (religious) tool building a symbiotiuc relatiobship between Christianity and the Roman Empire (Sacro Roman Catholic Religion). This the PROTO type for what Paul foretold Christian Zionism, the fate of Christianity (baptists, lutherans,etc.) is thus sealed religions whose main theological, ideological, make up its JEWISH denying judaism is denying themselves. Thsi is the main reason NONjewsih christians BELIEVE all jewish/judaism/Zionism because from its very historical ancient origins judaism lays at its very core..is christianity the bastard child of judaism??? and therefore destined to collapse into the arms of its original putative mother..??? Christianity was a CON from the very start a JEWISH con game (Paul) and the Romans were destroyed by it…Once the Romans embraced Christianity as the state religion its non christian provinces resisted Roman rule vigorously and thus Rome was an easy prey for Judaism…

    • Replies: @anon
    , @ploni almoni
  382. Robjil says:
    @Anonymous

    I agree with that. ZioChristian are order followers of ZioJews. The Old Testament is the problem. The ZioChristians should be ashamed of themselves. Jesus was against all the negative parts of the Old Testament. The New Testament is a revulsion of all the violent primitive thinking of the Old Testament. ZioChristians by worshiping the most violent and primitive aspects of the Old testament, are not following the New Testament of Jesus. They are order followers of Old Testament primitive thinking of the ZioJews.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @ChuckOrloski
  383. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robjil

    As badly as you may want to get rid of the Old Testament, with 695 direct quotations and 1,505 references to the Old Testament, there’s no practical way to filter out the bad shit. Ok, so Jesus or somebody of importance in Christianity says some part of the Old Testament is bad. So what? The Old Testament is still part of the Christian Canon, and the bad passages haven’t been removed from the Canon and it’s there for everybody to read and consider “The Word of God.” And even if you just chopped off the whole Old Testament, well, everybody can read it online, and look up the 1,505 references anyway.

    You may as well try to filter a turd out of the punchbowl.

    Europe survived Christianity best before the printing press, and there’s a good reason why: that was the most effective means of filtering out the most Jewturd stench from the punchbowl. With everybody now reading the OT, and Jew Testament for that matter, the Jewturd is thoroughly homogenized. I refuse to drink it, even if it has become a tradition.

    Here, we’ve been drinking this for 1500 years now! Naw man, I smell turd.

  384. Seraphim says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    I’ve heard that a poll organized in America about the extinction of species a question asked was: “Is it worth to save ‘homo sapiens’ and how much you care about?”.
    The answers varied between:
    ‘Not that I don’t like homo sapiens are, we always lived without them so, I don’t know’
    I don’t know what homo sapiens are, if they are on the way to extinction it’s sad, but after all I don’t care”.
    ‘Yes I’ve seen once a homo sapiens at the zoo. He was big and furry’.
    ‘We can used tax money for other things than saving homo sapiens.
    ‘Homo sapiens’? – Let them die, save the humans’.

    That’s the level of Anon (n+1) and not a few others.

    • Replies: @anon
  385. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @San Crisostomo

    If God is all good why evil? I solved theodicy from a Biblical viewpoint in comment #325, by simply quoting this: “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” (Isaiah 45:7) There ya go! God, Satan, what’s the difference? 🙂 But I prefer the Epicurean opinion:

    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

    Note that Epicurus is not an atheist; he argued that God was perfect, and that God meddling in, or even caring about, the affairs of mankind would be proof of his imperfection.

    • Replies: @Dube
  386. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    I agree, and I think big cities highly correlate to big government, as informed by a Jeffersonian viewpoint:

    “When they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe.” -Thomas Jefferson, Letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

    “I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man.” -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800

    “The mobs of great cities add just so much to support of pure government as sores do to the strength of the human body.” -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia

  387. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Jewsus said that retarding your intellect was the only way to understand him. Paul also confirmed that converts were both non-intellectual and ignoble. You’re simply projecting your own base nature, Seraphim.

    “Thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.” (Matthew 11:25) “Except ye be converted, and become as little children.” (Matthew 18:13) “Not many of you were wise by human standards…not many were noble…” (1 Corinthians 1:18-26)

    And guess what, for once the Bible and Science agree! “Correlations between intelligence and the strength of religious beliefs ranged from −.20 to −.25…Intelligent people may therefore have less need for religious beliefs and practices.” –The Relation Between Intelligence and Religiosity: A Meta-Analysis and Some Proposed Explanations https://doi.org/10.1177/1088868313497266

    You do understand negative correlations, right? 🙂

  388. @Anonymous

    ἐν ἀτόμῳ, ἐν ῥιπῇ ὀφθαλμοῦ (I Cor 15:52)

    The correct translation of that passage is : “…in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye…”
    The Greek word atomos means literally “indivisible”, and it can mean an indivisible material particle (hence : an “atom”), or an indivisible time element (hence : a “moment”), and that is here clearly the case. The context is about the resurrection and has nothing to do with a refutation of Epicurus’ atom theory, let alone that the whole of Christianity “was founded on mocking atomic theory”.

    Your ideas clearly show a total lack of knowledge of Greek and of common sense.

    • Replies: @anon
  389. @anon

    “…Means “heavenly”? Wrong. It means Uranus. Translators translated it “heavenly” out of embarrassment at the reference of a pagan god…”

    Again, you show a total lack of knowledge of Greek and a lack of common sense.
    Did you notice the “i” in ouranios, as distinct from ouranos? That “i” denotes derivation : “heavenly” as derived from “heaven”.
    And the idea that the Jew Jesus would preach a Greek god is beyond ridiculous.

    • Replies: @anon
  390. anon[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Swarthy gentlemen, sons of Mohammad, are making all of you tough Vikings look like the Godless pussies you are, even Adolf couldn’t count on you peaceniks for help, the only blond babes you will get, if any, will indeed be in the underworld, in this life, they’re taking and raping them right before your eyes, while you cower behind your smartphone screens, and flex your virtual muscles. You already know many passages from the NT, better learn something from the Quran, it will come in handy soon, when you obediently prostrate in a Mosque.

    • Replies: @anon
  391. ababush says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “Because nothing could be more obvious than that Christianity has completely failed when it comes to protecting the white race and limiting Jewish influence.”

    As exposed in the article, Christianity was successful in the roman empire because it managed to strictly reduce the Jewish power. The fact that Jewish managed to infiltrate and corrupt Christianity with their OT among other things doesn’t mean that it is not by essence an efficient tool against them.

  392. anon[263] • Disclaimer says:

    Christian Zionists and Catholics. Right, how did the Jews rise to rule the Soviet Union while the Russians were Orthodox. Every atheistic Democrat in California and New York supports the AIPAC .

  393. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    been a while since I’ve read the J. Bible
    think it is similar to Marcion’s, ie
    excise the OT, Jewish parts
    especially the OT god
    who rightfully belongs in hell.

  394. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    I see you refrained from using the preposition “in” this time, good boy! Stick with me, and you’ll learn more, if only because I won’t let you get away with pulling that fast one. But you’re trying another fast one. There is God and Godly. Adding ly onto God doesn’t make it a generic place. Ouranos is a Greek God, Ouranos-ly is still related to that Greek God.

    And the idea that the Jew Jesus would preach a Greek god is beyond ridiculous? Maybe you should file a grievance with the Hellenized Jewish Storyteller’s Association for inventing such beyond ridiculous fiction. Most of it is plagiarized retelling of older stories, including the ancient Greek mythological tale of how Uranus and Gaia’s children, the Titans—Kronos, Iapetus, Hyperion, Oceanus, Coeus, Creus, Theia, Rhea, Mnemosyne, Phoebe, Tethys, and Themis—were tossed into their Greek mythological underworld prison Tartarus by Uranus, the God of the sky, are recognized in Peter’s epistle:

    For if Theos [Uranus in the original tale, but still both Greek Gods] spared not the angels [Titans in the original tale] that sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment. (2 Peter 2:4)

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  395. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @mcohen

    No, the Pharisees who tried to set Jesus up, asking if it was just to pay taxes to the emperor, were shown one of that particular emperor’s coins, Jesus begun his public ministry at the age of 30, and was crucified about 30 years before the Jewish Revolt. It was neither a Julius Caesar’s coin nor a Jewish Revolt coin.

    >Long term say what.how revolting.

    Long term, indeed. It took you almost a century to put whites on the defensive position in the US:

    “We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is racial tensions. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.”

    Israel Cohen, ”A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century”, 1912.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @ploni almoni
  396. Art: “Maybe the culture that the life of Jesus fostered turned scientific and productive – and the others did not?”

    Or maybe it took the innate genius of the white race nearly a thousand years to neutralize, to a limited extent, the cultural toxin introduced by Christianity. Remember that there was classical civilization, verging on science, long before Jesus, and long before it was destroyed by Christian nescience; the typically Christian celebration of ignorance.

    ababush: “The fact that Jewish managed to infiltrate and corrupt Christianity with their OT among other things doesn’t mean that it is not by essence an efficient tool against them.”

    This infiltration gambit always struck me as a particularly lame excuse. The fact is Jesus was a Jew and all of the apostles were Jews. So any “infiltration” was at the very beginning. Plus, by any rational standard, even if what you claim were true, the fact that it could be “infiltrated” at all means that it was NOT an efficient tool against them. A strong tool doesn’t break when put to use.

  397. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Bring on the White Sharia, baby, for T.H.O.T. Conversion Therapy! So are you from the Daily Stormer?

    • Replies: @anon
  398. @anon

    Do you know enough Greek to know that ouranos means “heaven” or “sky” in Greek ? And do you have enough intelligence to understand that the term “heavenly father”, could very well be translated with “(our) father in heaven”?

    And tartaros is simply the Greek translation of the Hebrew word for underworld : sheol. It doesn’t necessarily mean that Paul by using that term endorses the complete Greek mythology that is associated with it by pagan Greeks.

    Your ignorance is as big as your diletantism.

    • Replies: @anon
  399. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    • 34 CE, Acts 8:26-40 “Behold, a man of Ethiopia…he baptized him…”
    • 35 CE, Acts 13:1 “Now in the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon called Nigger…”
    • 1912 CE, Israel Cohen: We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence…”

    Same as it ever was.

    • Replies: @anon
  400. anon[154] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    >I know what “he meant.” What you’re trying to do is explain away the plain meaning of what he meant.

    Nah, you’re misinterpreting Jesus’ words, as usual.

    • Replies: @anon
  401. anon[154] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    The Stormer? The appreciation of Norse mythology is what you and Adolf share, not me.

    • Replies: @anon
  402. anon[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Clearly, all of those non-whites had been happily living among pagans, and had ties to the places, since long before being baptized. Christianity arrived later to find them there, either at home or during business related travel.

    • Replies: @anon
  403. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Uh huh, already heard all your Jew-worship excuses for your Hellenized Jewish storytelling anthology.

    OURANOS (Uranus) was the primordial god (protogenos) of the sky.The Greeks imagined the sky as a solid dome of brass, decorated with stars, whose edges descended to rest upon the outermost limits of the flat earth.

    https://www.theoi.com/Protogenos/Ouranos.html

    And thanks for the reminder that you still cling to a flat-earth cosmology. Never saw that pic of the round Earth rising over the moon from the fellows in Apollo 10?

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  404. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    The indivisible atom is mentioned in the Jew Testament, because the mystical Paul was mocking the Epicurean atomic theory, because he admitted elsewhere in the Jew Testament that if Epicurus’ atomic theory about the elements were correct, that his theory of the immortal soul couldn’t be true. Thus, Paul made Christianity falsifiable, as noted in comment #129 with supporting scholarly reference too long to repeat here. In short, thanks to Paul’s efforts, we know Christianity is false ever since John Dalton’s 1803 experiment on tin oxide proving the atomic theory of matter.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  405. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Your Sharia Thot Control meme is definitely from Daily Stormer. Are you Andrew Anglin in disguise?

    • Replies: @anon
  406. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Weird how I quote Jesus, simply copied and pasted, and you falsely accuse me of “misinterpreting it.” Meanwhile, you try to explain away the plain meaning of the words by saying “he meant.” You’re psychologically projecting, as usual.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @anon
  407. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    The Negroes here in the US clearly have the very same geographical and cultural ties to the US territory, with family histories going back many generations. You’re just making up lame ad hoc excuses, which is typical of fanatical apologists of Jew-worship, to avoid what the Jew Testament teaches: the very same race mixing with blacks for which you blamed Jews.

  408. “Liar. Jesus and the Gospel writers made positive references to the Old Testament all the time.”

    good grief,

    That has nothing to do with what I said in relation to the Lord’s prayer. You never fail to dance among pebbles when the music is to boulders. And not a single one of those references calls believers to worship jews – not one.

    The point of the reference to how God is to be seen — as – “Father”

    Wholly different from traditional teaching and it undermined the traditional practice of jews. Which held god in such place as to avoid even referencing the name.

    • Replies: @anon
  409. Seraphim says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    It became a rule to present the history of any ‘massacres’ apportioning the same amount of blame on each party, isolating the events from their antecedents.
    The History of the West-East relations is replete with wars between the two parts. Historians spend a lot of time to put the blame on the ‘other’, not always resisting the temptation to exaggerate things, for the propagandistic reason of stirring righteous indignation. Deaths are presented in the tens, hundreds of thousands, the massacres are the most gruesome, etc. Not to say anything that Western histories of Byzance are programmatically hostile to the ‘Greek/Asian ‘Byzance’, schismatic, treacherous, perverse, vengeful, a declining power envious of the successes of the ‘West’ in ascension, always presented in glowing colors.
    In the 1171 ‘massacres’ the tens of thousands of supposedly slain Venetians, most casualties were due to an outbreak of plague. Actually Byzance was at war with Venice, war started by Venice. Few people ask why Venetians were targeted and assume that they were innocent, not that they were arrogantly behaving in Constantinople as in a conquered city, bringing economic devastation, insolently disobeying the Emperor and pirating the Byzantine territories in Dalmatia. The same went for the Genovese and Pisans.
    1204 was a Venetian affair, but one should look at the first Crusaders also, who behaved in Byzance as if in a conquered land. In any case we cannot establish an equivalence between the ‘massacres’ of Latins and the wholesale invasion of Byzance by the Crusaders, with its string of church destructions, desecrations, looting, persecution of the Orthodox and establishment of a foreign power with the wide consequences that it had.
    But the recommendation to study more is commendable.

  410. “Jefferson wrote to a newspaper editor in 1807, “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle.” The Associated Press reports that Jefferson also “railed against newspapers as ‘polluted vehicles’ of falsehood and error.”

    “The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.”

    “He writes to Marc-Auguste Pictet (5 Feb. 1803) that public judgment is the best verdict concerning the “line of separation between the abuse and the wholesome use of the press” To James Madison (19 Apr. 1809), Jefferson says that “a word of truth [in the papers] now and then comes like the drop of water on the tongue of Dives.” To John B. Colvin (19 Apr. 1809), he admits to indifferency to the “scurrilities of the newswriters.” To John Adams (21 Jan. 1812), he says, “I have given up newspapers in exchange for Tacitus, and Thucydides, for Newton and Euclid, and I find myself much the happier.” To James Monroe (1 Jan. 1815), he writes: “A truth now and then projecting into the ocean of newspaper lies, serves like headlands to correct our course.” Last, to Nathaniel Macon (12 Jan. 1819), he says, “I read no newspaper now but Ritchie’s, and in that chiefly the advertisements, for they contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper.”

    https://brewminate.com/thomas-jefferson-and-the-free-press/

    It’s the press that President Jefferson comes to have some modicum of faith in, it’s the ability of people to reason and even that is not clear as ethos as much as reaction to negative press.

    • Replies: @anon
  411. @anon

    “…As was bound to happen, this whole system became known to the enemies of Epicurus by that particular Principle which was most offensive and provocative of ridicule, the third. This was offensive because it implied that the soul of man itself was composed of atoms, just as the body itself, and therefore subject to dissolution, just as the body…”

    Does it ever occur to you that those who believe in a soul never believe that that soul is material and therefore mortal? “The universe” may consist of atoms and space only, but that is only the material universe. People who believe in a spiritual essence of man also believe in a spiritual world, which is not subject to the laws of the material world.

    • Replies: @anon
  412. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Who cares if some narrowly defined passage of the NT doesn’t have a specific instance of reference in the OT? You’re being deceitful, because you’re trying to weasel out of the plain fact that there are 695 DIRECT QUOTES from the OT in the NT, along with 1,505 references. That’s the point. Stop trying to deflect, liar.

  413. anon[741] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Next, you’ll be talking about the color of his socks, just to hear yourself talk.

  414. Hmmmm . . . let’s see . . . christians against science

    Hmmmm,

    Catholic, Antoine Lavoisier – known as the father of modern science

    Quaker, John Dalton – Father of modern atomic theory

    Anglican (Christian) – father of nuclear physics

    Faith is no barrier to scientific research, understanding or advancement.

    ——————————

    There are examples of christians behaving quite contrary to their faith — that is accurate, it happens every day — some behaviors more disagreeable and contrary than others. But that is a reflection of man, not christ nor christianity.

    —————————-

    • Replies: @anon
  415. And some people of faith crumble at the most superficial assails — such christianity a hinderance to whiteness. It should have halted or buffered a lot more nonsensical attributes about white superiority than it did. However, anyone with a hint of knowledge of western history has to conclude that christianity as a form of social manipulation dominance and control was one of the most effective tools in obtaining submission of others of a different hue.

    And the utter abuse of the metaphorical symbolism of whiteness in scripture and the trope of Cain’s sin as signature blackness — we key rhetorical devices in that gambit. It is sheer utter nonsense that christianity was not a force, though abusive of Christ and scriptures intent and meaning, to the betterment of whites.

    Good grief, the desperation.

    • Replies: @anon
  416. anonymous[219] • Disclaimer says:

    First and foremost, The Church is a accursed home of Pagan Idolatry. God has cursed all forms of Idolatry and Polytheism.

    Take it directly from your masters;

    • Replies: @anon
  417. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Oh the irony of your last paragraph. You’re probably too dense to notice it.

  418. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    You typing drunk, bro?

  419. ababush says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “the fact that it could be “infiltrated” at all means that it was NOT an efficient tool against them.”

    It WAS during at least 15 centuries, which is quite a strong result. The article is about if and how it could be enhanced, as it finally was beaten by Judaism. The only other organized attempt to resist was performed by the Nazis, and could survive only 12 years.
    Also, they can forbid Nazism and “Antisemitism”, but they cannot forbid Christianity.

  420. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Does it ever occur to you that people who believe in a magical essence of man also believe in a magical world, which is not subject to the laws of the real world? Believing in pretend magic is infantile, which is exactly what Jesus said, and why he said one must retard their intellect to believe in such pretend magic.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  421. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    The Church is a accursed home of Pagan Idolatry? You don’t say! Pagan Origins of the Christ Myth http://pocm.info

    They perform their ritual, and persuade not only individuals, but whole cities, that expiations and atonements for sin may be made by sacrifices and amusements which fill a vacant hour, and are equally at the service of the living and the dead; the latter sort they call mysteries, and they redeem us from the pains of hell, but if we neglect them no one knows what awaits us.

    -Plato (4th century BCE)
    The Republic (Book II)

    There’s Christian soteriology in a nutshell, hundreds of years before Jesus was a twinkle in some Jewish storyteller’s eye.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @anon
  422. @anon

    The laws of the material world only pertain to the material world and don’t prove anything beyond it. Whether it is “infantile” to believe in the existence of a super-material world, is a matter of attitude, not of final judgment. The belief in physical atoms is in no way a threat to the belief in a super-material world, since the existence of the material world is accepted anyway.

  423. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:

    Whether it is “infantile” to believe in the existence of a super-material world, is a matter of attitude…wrong, at least wrong according to Jesus, who called such belief in pretend magic worlds infantile: “Thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.” (Matthew 11:25) “Except ye be converted, and become as little children.” (Matthew 18:13)

    The belief in physical atoms is in no way a threat to the belief in a super-material world…wrong, at least wrong according to Paul. If you and Paul disagree, then sobeit.

  424. Robjil says:

    We are 21st century and not in 500 BC. Our rulers think that it is still 500 BC. The seven nations to destroy mania is from the 500 BC writings of the Old Testament – Deuteronomy 7.1-2. This fantasy of destroying seven nations is on going right now. This what we should be addressing. Fighting over angels on pinhead, minor details of religious thought, is not going to end this madness. Iran is in the headlights of our insane 500 BC thinking rulers. An attack on Iran could lead to a war that could possibly end life on this planet.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @anon
  425. @Robjil

    As a forward to Robjil’s extraordinary comment # 389, I shall explain how during Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom,☦️& prior to the priest’s Gospel reading, a lector cries out, “Wisdom be attentive!”
    And, including the benefit for enlightened by 98%, author Laurent Guyenot👍, thus spake Robjil: “Jesus was against all the negative parts of the Old Testament. The New Testament is a revulsion of all the violent primitive thinking of the Old Testament.”

    Broken & unseasonably cold Scranton greetings, my Brother Robjil!

    After having served in Nixon’s Army and afterward having labored 10 years on the breakbulk docks of Roadway Express, Tannersville, Pa, I desired something more, and began to matriculate & graduated at the Jesuit, University of Scranton, 1986.

    There, I became friend with the great & humble, an orphan, late-Professor of History, Father Thomas Scott, S.J. Fyi, upon the peak of ‘da U.’s St. Thomas Hall, which was a beautiful overlook to the city of Scranton, an Old Testament statue was constructed, Jacob’s wrestling with an angel. 😕

    Jesuit Father Scott and I were reasonably perplexed by such a spiritually combative Old Testament symbol established upon prominent campus grounds. I figured a placement of The Christ’s cross would be more appropriate. 🤔

    At any rate, my Brother Robjil, please refer to the link below which includes an old photograph of the University of Scranton’s now famous sculpture of (non-WWF’s 🙄) Jacob and the angel.
    Salud & my respect, Robjil!

    http://125th.scranton.edu/timeline/1982_Jacob.php

    • Agree: Robjil
  426. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    To think that a break with Judaism is an infiltration of Judaism you have to be standing on your head. You can get up now.

    • Replies: @anon
  427. @anon

    It depends on on what you think.

    • Replies: @anon
  428. @anon

    Start thinking now. The voices will go away.

    • Replies: @anon
  429. @anon

    You poor thing. Words have so many meanings. And then there are metaphors and allusions…. It is no shame you get lost. Saturday is Saturn’s Day in English, Resurrection in Russian, First Day in Arabic. Then there is yesterday, tomorrow. No one is laughing at you any more. Smoke a joint and you will feel mellow. It’s legal now.

    • Replies: @anon
  430. @Anonymous

    Just what you do mean?

    • Replies: @anon
  431. “Who cares if some narrowly defined passage of the NT doesn’t have a specific instance of reference in the OT? You’re being deceitful, because you’re trying to weasel out of the plain fact that there are 695 DIRECT QUOTES from the OT in the NT, along with 1,505 references. That’s the point. Stop trying to deflect, liar.”

    There are probably more than that and not a single one calls christians Jews . . . or demands worship of Jews . . . not a one.

    ————————————————————–

    You have however stumbled on the verses I was sure you would mangle concerning the promise to the jews and the grafting into the promise of anyone who accepts christ (christian). And true to form you mangled the meaning because you simply don’t know the meaning. I will respond leaving you your own conundrum mess with the following verses by the same author . . .

    “26You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.”

    As has been described in scripture. To become a christian is not to become Jewish nor worship Jews. Scripture recognized (gives attribution) to the jewish role in what is promised — but no christian is expected to behave as a Jew — being a christian is something entirely new. Note: the passage,

    neither Jew not Gentile

    But I am delighted that you have finally stumbled a reference that might be understood as becoming Jewish, unless one reads the entire passage that rejects the idea and places it in perspective.

    No, you don’t merely cite scripture. You cite scripture verses that support your warped view, while you ignore everything else that attached to it. That is a deceptive practice and I certainly understand why you do it. And funnier still still is that you use a text you claim is worthless to make your case. Just as you did with the passage concerning eunuchs, which is clearly about celibacy outside of marriage and the fidelity in marriage , yet you managed to turn the matter into some crude practice — when it is completely the opposite.

    But as I say, you finally managed to stumble on a passage that could be understood as you claim, but alas, upon reading the entire section, not merely one verse — it denies your claim and it does so in both directions about what a christian is —

    neither jew or gentile

    ———–

    It is also clear to me that you engage in this type of rhetorical discourse as a rule not merely scripture, but your hyperventilation about President Jefferson’s hypocrisy which even his most ardent biographers acknowledge is a reflection of your inability or unwillingness to see only what you choose so as it suits your purposes.

    ———————————-

    And you too can still have a personal relationship with god upon the asking and you don’t have to say a word about it to anyone.

    • Replies: @anon
  432. @anon

    Have you ever passed through a “stop”‘ sign? Have you ever opened a door? Have you ever looked through a window? Of course not.

    • Replies: @anon
  433. @anon

    My Rabbi said that Jews for Jesus are not Jews they are Christians. I think that he is narrow minded. But you, what an intellect! You could throw the whole grand canyon in there and still have room for all the world’s used razor blades.

    • Replies: @anon
  434. @Grace Poole

    looks satanic doesn’t he?

    • Replies: @anon
  435. @anon

    Wow! What a joyous life affirming religion you have! How happy you must be!

    • Replies: @anon
  436. @San Crisostomo

    Do you teach philosophy at a university? Are your classes within driving distances of Minneapolis?

  437. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    To think that the Jew Testament’s Jew-worship is a break with Judaism you have to be standing on your head. You can get up now.

  438. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    Life affirming, say you? That’s a foreign notion if you worship Jewsus.

    • Jesus: Hate…even your own life. (Luke 14:26)
    • Jesus: Anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life. (John 12:25)

  439. Thanks for writing this, I’ve never seen most of my misgivings expressed in one place. My relationship over the past decade with Christianity alternates between elusive moments of serenity, confusion, and then feeling like I’ve gazed into an abyss and witnessed something I shouldn’t have.

    I don’t see though how the Old Testament could ever be excised from the New and maintain any kind of vital coherence because Christ’s arrival and necessity to begin with, specific qualities of his personhood, treatment of ethnic others, numerous specific utterances that depend on Old Testament prophecy, stories/sayings of earlier important figures, and overall context.

    As for Orthodox Christianity, I would caution others against thinking it is somehow more divorced from “problems of judaization” than any of the protestanisms or Catholicism. I don’t really know where people get this idea beyond an attachment to a superficial cultural Orthodoxy, Western intellectual neglect and inexperience with it, and the national quality of many churches in the Old World. I get that it has a kind of labyrinthine, mystical quality to Westerners because of the influence of hesychasm and lack of scholasticism but the OT is literally read extensively in the liturgy among other things, they do not repudiate or depedestalize it in any way.

  440. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    > scripture verses that support your warped view

    No, they’re the Jew Testament’s Jewish storytellers’ warped view. I merely quote them.

    > a personal relationship with god

    I have no desire to be in a submissive pederastic marriage as an emasculated boy-Bride of Kike in a Jewheaven that perversely bans straight sex. The underworld of Loki’s daughter Hell, with brats, beer, and buxom blonde babes, is much preferable.

  441. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    Your Rabbi? Which one, that Rabbi who was extremely popular in the Synogogues with every Jew? “He [Jewsus] taught regularly in their Synagogues and was praised by everyjew.” (Luke 4:15)

  442. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    Voices in your head, say you? Like the ones Jewsus heard? “And lo a voice from Uranus, saying…” (Matthew 3:17)

  443. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    I think the exactly same thoughts as the early church leaders Justin Martyr and Tertullian, namely, that it’s extremely embarrassing for Christians that Christian soteriology preceded Christian soteriology by hundreds of years.

    Christians were forced to claim that the Devil had known beforehand, and inspired the cults to imitate the true faith of the Christians; these similarities in the Greco-Roman religions were demonic deceptions.[1]
    […]
    [1] “Justin Martyr (First Apology 66.4 and Dialogue with Trypho 70.1) and Tertullian (Prescription against Heresies 40)”

    Gregory Riley (2001) The River of God: A New History of Christian Origins. HarperCollins. pp. 5, 239

  444. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    Close your mouth, you’re dribbling on your shirt. Never saw that in the Bible before, huh? 🙂 Don’t ask me what I mean, ask yourself what the Bible means. I’m just quoting it, that’s all.

  445. anon[370] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Lame projection, it’s your and Anglin’s meme, not mine. I said the religion-less descendants of Vikings, will have to make do without their own blond women– except maybe in the underworld- who are being taken away from them by Muslims. You’ve got them where you want them.

    You, Anglin, Dr Morgan, et al., are all Jesus hating plants, out to divide whites, in line with what your ilk’s most supreme, ungodly book- the Talmud, teaches. The OT is hardly ever mentioned in Judaism, as irrelevant as it is to you, while the NT has been viciously, actively attacked for two millennia by both atheistic and Talmudic Jews. Your stripes show, the Goyim know.

    • Replies: @Anon
  446. ababush: “It WAS during at least 15 centuries, which is quite a strong result. The article is about if and how it could be enhanced, as it finally was beaten by Judaism. ”

    Dr. Kevin MacDonald has a warped perspective on history which is very similar to yours. However, the American Civil War showed that even in the absence of Jews, white Christians still act in a racially self-destructive manner. This demonstrates that the problem is with Christianity itself, not “infiltration”.

    ploni almoni: “To think that a break with Judaism is an infiltration of Judaism you have to be standing on your head.”

    To think that an organization initially founded and run by Jews isn’t already “infiltrated” by them is insane.

  447. Anon[497] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Funny when Jew-worshipers like you call other people Jews — it’s simply psychological projection. Personally, I’ve never seen a Talmud in my life, nor been in a Synagogue. So you’re straight-out lying too. Too bad it all stems from your intense jealousy, since you’re too much of a pimply-faced gamma boy to ever trip a blonde into bed. Mentioning blondes brings out gammas like you with your pathetic and ineffectual frothing envy. Every. Single. Time. Stay thirsty! 🙂

    The OT is hardly ever mentioned in Judais? You’re a comedian, right? LOL Good one!

    • Replies: @anon
  448. anon[197] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Weird how I quote Jesus, simply copied and pasted, and you falsely accuse me of “misinterpreting it.”

    Playing dumb. These quotations you brought up to contradict my statement that Christianity unites the common people, effectively to back up your own, implied, directly opposite to mine conclusion/interpretation: Christianity divides the common people.

    Misinterpretation and trying to bend scripture to justify their evil ends is what Talmudists have always done, just like they kept coming at Jesus with their ill presented quotations of the OT, which eventually led them to writing down their own holy book, the Talmud, centuries later, filled with the psychopathic xenophobia (and the mixed in hatred of Jesus/Christianity in particular), their oral traditions had been so full of.

    • Replies: @anon
  449. anon[497] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    > These quotations you brought up to contradict my statement

    Quoting the Jew Testament often contradicts Jew-worshipers like yourself.

    > Christianity divides the common people.

    That’s exactly what the Jew Testament says:


    > Talmudists

    You’re projecting again, Jew-Worshiper.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  450. Dube says:
    @ploni almoni

    There is a living word engraved in the soul of the learner, which knows when to speak and when to be silent, and can defend itself. – Socrates to Phaedrus.

    And thanks for the counsel.

  451. The reason the Lord’s prayer matters is because it undercuts any contention that Christ’s intent was to install the OT as the primary or any conduit of Judaism as the avenue to a walk with him. Jesus had spinning circles around the Jewish leadership since he was 12.

    The Lord’s prayer was major departure Of how hu.and were consider God.

    The reason Jesus constantly references the OT is provide support for who he was his authority, which they should have recognised. It’s in reference to the other concept y8u c8nstantly mangle. The law and the prophets won’t pass away and here I exercise caution – u til all things are fulfilled – Christ is that fulfillment.

    He is who the prophets spoke of, his death and his resurrection is life over death- the law is now written in the being of the beliver even said beliver errors.

    • Replies: @anon
  452. Dube says:
    @anon

    I guess, if God outside space and time creates life and choice within space and time, including evil, then it might be a good and practical idea to stand the penalty for it.

    Does that work?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @ploni almoni
  453. @Seraphim

    Dear Seraphim. Very few Catholics are aware of the extent to which men of your communion are catechised via propagandistic history which is not only polemical but strikingly prejudiced as a way to indicate that your communion is the real church whereas Catholics are a bunch of murderous thugs.

    I have dealt with such an approach for many many years at Free Republic and so I am not surprised to see it repeated in here.

    Nursing imagined wounds is not a Catholic thing; it is a your communion thing and it is easy to prove that is an accurate observation. Ask any member of your communion about the sack of Constantinople and they act as though t happened last Saturday. Ask any Catholic about the indefensible perfidy and malign actions of long dead members of your communion against Catholics and less than 1/100th of one percent of Catholics have ever even heard mention of it to say nothing about studying and memorising is as do men of your communion.

    If tendentious history is equivalent to authority and legitimacy for you, there is nothing I can do about it other that to note it.

    http://www.catholicbridge.com/orthodox/crusade-sacking-constantinopole.php

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  454. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Elite sez: “Jesus constantly references the OT” [with 4 paragraphs of excuse-making]
    Moi sez: “Jesus constantly references the OT”

    So a Jewish Rabbi constantly quotes what other Jewish Rabbis constantly read and quote. Why is what a Jewish Rabbi constantly quotes such an obsession to you? Why don’t you pay attention to, say, some European guy who constantly quotes European texts? Why are you so co-dependent upon The Foreign Other? You’re as pathetic as a coal-burner.

  455. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dube

    Creates life? Or rather, just simple physics. Life is merely a subset of physics, 4th law of Thermodynamics, a.k.a. Maximum Power Principle (Lotka, 1922; Odum, 1994).

    “The origin and subsequent evolution of life follow from the fundamental laws of nature and ‘should be as unsurprising as rocks rolling downhill.’”

    A New Physics Theory of Life: An MIT physicist has proposed the provocative idea that life exists because the law of increasing entropy drives matter to acquire lifelike physical properties.
    http://www.quantamagazine.org/20140122-a-new-physics-theory-of-life/

    • Replies: @Dube
  456. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    I bet you’re the one who can spot Jewsus on burnt toast too.

  457. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    Whenever Jew-worshipers lose arguments and become frustrated and angry, they then begin to obsess about all the personal details in the life of moi. For which I cannot blame them, since I am The Most Interesting Man in the World. Anything else you want to know about me?

    Stay thirsty, my friend.

  458. Dube says:
    @anon

    I wrote, life and choice. Simple physics? Show me.

    • Replies: @anon
  459. Franklin Ryckaert: “The laws of the material world only pertain to the material world and don’t prove anything beyond it. Whether it is “infantile” to believe in the existence of a super-material world, is a matter of attitude, not of final judgment.”

    Which is more likely? To think that an imaginary friend is really there, or to realize that it’s only the manifestation of an infantile fear of being alone? Or put another way, a Jew walks around proclaiming himself to be God. Which is more likely? That he really is God, or that he’s just trying to gain power over you using the bogus concept of God, an imaginary friend for adults?

    The laws of the material world in the form of human psychology indicate that the latter is far more likely. Religious belief of the Christian sort is entirely understandable in terms of human narcissism and wish fulfillment.

  460. Art says:

    It is amazing how many people who live and thrive in the Christian West – and who would not even be alive if it were not Christianity – hate Jesus and Christianity.

    Honest people must agree that Jesus unleashed something that was beneficial to humanity. The rest of the world wants what the Christian West created.

    There is no question, but that Jesus was religious person – he tied himself and his coreligionists to a new image of god. He image of god was different from his tribe’s – His image was of a universal god to everyone – not just his tribe. His god was hopeful and loving and forgiving. He expressed how we should relate to god. He said we should love god with our heart and mind.

    Every religion has two components – one, how we should relate to god (religion), and two, how we should relate to each other (philosophy). All religions prescribe how we should treat each other. Jesus said we should also use our heart and mind “to love our neighbor as we love ourselves.” He said that we should be idealistic, that we should be hopeful, respectful of life, loving, truthful, forgiving, and graceful.

    It is Jesus’ philosophy that has gradually propelled humanity forward. It is obvious, that it is Christian philosophy, that is the engine of human progress.

    All the love for god that 7,000,000,000 humans can muster, will not move humankind forward one centimeter. Only when we are idealistic with each other will we progress. Credit for this idealistic progress belongs to Jesus Christ and all those who have loved him through the last 2,000 years.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  461. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    > there are metaphors and allusion

    Yes, and the way you Jew-worshipers decide what is an metaphor or illusion in the Jew Testament is this: if it’s totally embarrassing, then it’s gotta be a metaphor or allusion!

    Funny thing is, the whole book is becoming a vast metaphor, as embarrassment grows. Now “Adam and Eve” are metaphors with many Jew-worshipers. Problem with doing that is, you shoot yourself in the foot. You end up totally confused, like this couple examples:

    Now [metaphorical/literal] Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was […] the son of [metaphorical/literal] Adam, the son of God. Luke 3:23-38

    For as in [metaphorical/literal] Adam all die, so also in [figurative/literal] Christ all will be made alive. ~1 Corinthians 15:22

    So you watch it boy, with that “anything embarrassing is a metaphor” excuse-making. It’s intellectually dishonest, and destroys your own dogma that you imagine you can keep literal.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  462. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robjil

    • Robjil: mania is from the 500 BC writings of the Old Testament
    • Psalm 55:19: With whom there is no change,

  463. “I have no desire to be in a submissive pederastic marriage as an emasculated boy-Bride of Kike in a Jewheaven that perversely bans straight sex.”

    Just so it’s clear the marriage is not material/physical it is spiritual and as such rejects the dynamic you imply.

    I don’t drink. I have my issues but alcohol and a failure to be celibate are not among them.

    Not everything boils down to some crude escapade.

    • Replies: @anon
  464. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Homo Sapiens have been thriving for 300,000 years, the vast majority of the time without Superjew Jewsus. People live and thrive in Japan, oblivious of SuperJew Jewsus. People live and thrive in Dubai without SuperJew Jewsus, and build buildings taller than anything in the “West.”

    Jesus unleashed something that was beneficial to humanity? How is starvation beneficial?

    • 380 AD Theodosius makes Jew-worship the offiicial religion of the Roman Empire.
    • 400-800 AD Population of Rome fell by over 90%, mainly because of famine and plague.

    There are serious consequences for unleshing a Jewish Rabbi with this sort of advice: “Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body.”

  465. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Gotcha, the embarrassing stuff is pretend. Let’s stay consistent and say it’s all pretend.

  466. @anon

    Caliban, I have said it before, and I will say it again. The inability to understand metaphors and symbols is the tragedy of autism. You are not be hated but pitied. There will be some bones at the entrance of your cave to gnaw on.

    • Replies: @anon
  467. Come to think of it, John may have been right when he said “Salvation comes from the Jews.” For Matthew also said that: John the Baptist said: “And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. The ax lies ready at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.” (Matthew 3:9). After all, every good story must have an end.

    • Replies: @anon
  468. Art: “There is no question, but that Jesus was religious person …”

    Jesus’ existence as an historical person is poorly attested, at best. Some scholars think he is most likely a fictional character; a composite of archetypes common to the era.

    Try to keep in mind that all of the attributes you ascribe to this probably fictional character are equally fictional; it’s like talking about the personality of Santa Claus, or elves.

    Art: “Honest people must agree that Jesus unleashed something that was beneficial to humanity.”

    Thanks to Christianity, non-whites can regard the extinction of the white race with eager anticipation. That is what your crucified rabbi unleashed.

    • Replies: @Art
  469. anon[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    Jew-worshipers have no other criteria to identify a metaphor in the Jew Testament than embarrassment at taking it literally. There is no other consistent method. Your only retort to this observation is infantile insults.

  470. anon[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    Can you think about anything except Jews? Most people see rocks, Jewsus and Jew-worshipers see magical neo-Jews. Do you see Jews in cloud shapes and burnt piece of toast too?

  471. Dube says:

    Being King and Priest forever in the Order of Melchizedek, who was not a Jew, means that this Person and his followers are not beholden to the Jews. Does that fix it? His last words to Israel are not in the mode of appeal.

    Interesting story. Another such is that Joseph decided to be reconciled with his brothers after they left him for dead. His choice. It worked out well, considering.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  472. “Gotcha, the embarrassing stuff is pretend. Let’s stay consistent and say it’s all pretend”

    The only pretend and pretense here has been the attempt by you and others to bend, mislead, mischaracterize scripture out of any reasoned meaning, to select scripture that suits your comments, even when that scripture on review, completely contradicts you.

    And when confronted by those contradictions

    1. That christians have not been significant contributors to scientific research methods. discoveries and advancemnet lack the ability to admit when incorrect it misinformed

    2. When challenged by scripture in the context of the topic area merely jump to some other nonsensical accusation.

    3. When scripture utterly denies that one becomes Jew Worship Jews or that Christianity denies that it is Jewish practice, simply delete previously efeated arguments.

    4. When cornered, a series of personal attacks and name calling.

    The pretense is that you actually have any response that actually supports what you contend. The pretend is that despite noting scripture, you have clue how they relate if they do.

    And based on the record, despite some very abusive choices, including the use of Christ to advance whiteness as a superior sample of humanity, an apex belief of western philosophy, what really disturbs so many of you is the as you ding I pact of Christian ethos even the secular world wide.

    There simply is no escape from its value- even and despite When it is pacticed in eff and rejected outright.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Robjil
  473. Art says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Thanks to Christianity, non-whites can regard the extinction of the white race with eager anticipation. That is what your crucified rabbi unleashed.

    Dr. Robert — You are becoming an ungrateful troll. Bye. — Do NO Harm — Art

  474. EliteCommInc.: “And based on the record, despite some very abusive choices, including the use of Christ to advance whiteness as a superior sample of humanity, an apex belief of western philosophy, what really disturbs so many of you is the as you ding I pact of Christian ethos even the secular world wide.

    There simply is no escape from its value- even and despite When it is pacticed in eff and rejected outright.”

    Could you translate that into English?

  475. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Christianity has been consistently anti-science, even if some Christian scientists ignored Jewsus, and did exactly the opposite of what the Rabbi taught and did care for the things of this world. You listing a few exceptions only demonstrates my claim that Europe survived Christianity to the extent that it ignores or creatively interprets Christianity from its original intent.

    • Elite Con: “scripture utterly denies that one becomes Jew Worship Jews”
    • John 4:22 “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.”

    • EliteCon: “Christianity denies that it is Jewish practice”
    • 1 Cor. 5:7 “Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.”

    When cornered,
    say you? That’s you! There simply is no escape. True! 🙂 Christianity is Jewish through and through. A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

  476. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dube

    His followers? Ok, so is your new religion of following Melchizedek called Melchizidekianity? And your Holy text contains nothing after that? Or are you just engaging in more ad hoc excuse making?

    • Replies: @Dube
  477. anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whats in a name

    Muslims worship Allah, originally the moon-god Allat

    We worship the “moon-god,” do we?! That’s news to me. Obviously my parents have misguided their children all this while, as I have my children. Oh, woe is me! Ha!

    Oh well, I thank Allah(swt), the One and only, that Islam is not based on what its pathetic enemies deceitfully spin it to be.

    Indeed, your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He covers the night with the day, [another night] chasing it rapidly; and [He created] the sun, the moon, and the stars, subjected by His command. Unquestionably, His is the creation and the command; blessed is Allah, Lord of the worlds. (Surah Al-A‘raf, 54)

    References to the moon in the Holy Quran;

    https://www.quranindex.net/kelime.php?id=8478

    • Replies: @anon
  478. Robjil says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The problem of our time is 500 BC thinking of the Old Testament.

    Jerusalem “must” be the capital of Israel.
    Israel “must” be recreated.
    Golan Heights “must” be Israel’s.
    Seven nations “must” be destroyed for Yahweh’s Israel.
    Everyone who dislikes Pro- Israel Old Testament fantasies “must” be Amalek and destroyed
    Any nation that tries to be free of Pro- Israel OT fantasies “must” be Amalek or a new Purim and be destroyed.

    All of the above is thinking processes that are frozen stuck in a thick sludge of 500 BC thinking of the Old Testament. That is biggest and most dangerous problem of our time. ZioJews are at the top of this 500 BC thinking. Second in command, are Liberal Elites, who are Atheists or non-believers in the West. Next in line, who have no real power or no command at all, are lower level order follower ZioChristians.

    Focusing on the third level group, as many do here , is not going to save our planet from the two top level 500 BC OT thinking rulers our planet.

  479. anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    You can’t have a Nationalist religion when the Seat of God is located in foreign middle-eastern Jerusalem, as with Christianity. God’s holy city for a Nationalist religion is going to have to be in that Nation’s Capital.

  480. anon[277] • Disclaimer says:

    Our European ancestors worshiped in groves, whose ancient trees Jew-worshipers maliciously hacked down. And now we find a tree that’s older than Jewsus-worship, and likely to outlast it.

    In an NC swamp, researcher finds tree older than Christianity.
    https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article230191724.html

    No waiting on the tree’s magical second coming that never happens, the tree never abandoned us.

  481. Art: “Dr. Robert — You are becoming an ungrateful troll. Bye. ”

    I accept your concession of defeat.

  482. anon[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whats in a name

    Muslims worship Allah, originally the moon-god Allat, the god of Muhammad’s Quraysh tribe. Allat, probably a baal god from the same region, follows the same trajectory as Yahweh, elevated from one of many gods to the supreme being.”

    Can you differentiate your shit from that of your pet? Can you find any difference between your knowledge and the skills of the trained dog you have?

  483. anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    There’s pagan worship of the moon at Ēostre; the modern “Easter” holiday is movable, the exact dating governed by the moon goddess, who is also honored every Moon-Day, the first day of the work week.

    Indigenous Europeans could use some ancient European fertility rites during the Spring Equinox season, minus the gruesome Jewish human sacrifice.

    Unless one feels killing children is better than making them. Never know about them Jew-worshipers. lol

    • Replies: @Art
    , @anon
  484. anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    > He image of god was different from his tribe’s

    Not so much. “Christ our Passover lamb.” Original Christianity is just a slight variation of Tribe values, hence the accurate term Jewdeo-Christian. Europe has survived Christianity only by creative interpretation of the Jew Testament and creating traditions that are the exact opposite of what the Jew Testament teaches. That strategy worked fairly decently, until the Jew Testament got printed, and the stench of the Jewturd became homogenized in the mostly Pagan punchbowl of European religion.

    • Replies: @Art
  485. anon[349] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    >You’re projecting again, Jew-Worshiper.

    Only a militant, anti-white, Jewish atheist or a Talmudist, who nearly all religious Jews nowadays are, is so paranoid and consumed by his hatred of Christianity. Your sophistry betrays you. Keep on hating.

    The Talmudic stories make fun of Jesus’ birth from a virgin, fervently contest his claim to be the Messiah and Son of God, and maintain that he was rightfully executed as a blasphemer and idolater. They subvert the Christian idea of Jesus’ resurrection and insist he got the punishment he deserved in hell–and that a similar fate awaits his followers.

    Schäfer contends that these stories betray a remarkable familiarity with the Gospels–especially Matthew and John–and represent a deliberate and sophisticated anti-Christian polemic that parodies the New Testament narratives. He carefully distinguishes between Babylonian and Palestinian sources, arguing that the rabbis’ proud and self-confident countermessage to that of the evangelists was possible only in the unique historical setting of Persian Babylonia, in a Jewish community that lived in relative freedom. The same could not be said of Roman and Byzantine Palestine, where the Christians aggressively consolidated their political power and the Jews therefore suffered.

    https://press.princeton.edu/titles/8383.html

    You’d better tone down. Your stubborn, childish frequency of bringing up derivatives of the word ‘Jew’ makes a drunken sailor’s repeated swearing look like eloquent rhetoric. Christianity is not focused on Jesus’ Jewishness, and what you’d like us to believe nobody cares. Remember also, who the owner of this website is- praise be to Ron for maintaining a free speech platform for dissenting views. If this doesn’t bother me, why do you think being called a Jew worshiper would, especially since Jesus isn’t worshiped for being one.

  486. anon[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    >Jesus causes division

    Only between Christians and their enemies. It’s all of us Christians in this here thread, united against you, satan worshiper.

    >what the Jew Testament says:

    The Scripture you so eagerly misquote is held as truth by Protestants, Catholics and Orthodox Christians, and therefore they’re united. Only victims of zionist propaganda, godless American liberals, and their Talmudic and atheistic masters see Russia as their enemy.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/237137/republicans-positive-relations-russia.aspx

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/228479/americans-particularly-democrats-dislike-russia.aspx

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Robjil
  487. Dube says:
    @Anonymous

    That’s the story. Take your well-worn Concordance and check out the references to Melchizedek, including Hebrews Chapter 7. News to you, is it?

    • Replies: @anon
  488. anon[277] • Disclaimer says:

    > Only a militant, anti-white, Jewish atheist or a Talmudist

    I’m none of the above; you only demonstrate your ignorance of European tradition—which by your logic means you can be only a conniving Jew or dumb nigger! —when you known no other alternatives to your lily-livered Hvítakristr.

    The term for “White Christ” or Hvítakristr came into currency among the heathen Icelanders at the time when pagan and Christian religions were in conflict…To call a man hvítr was to say that he was cowardly, effeminate…A related phrase was to say, “your liver is white” meaning again, a coward… which is almost identical to modern English usage, “lily-livered” with the same meaning.

    Why did the Vikings call Jesus the White [Lily-Livered] Christ?

    > Christianity is not focused on Jesus’ Jewishness

    > You’d better tone down.

    LoL! I could throw you over my shoulder, you pansy-ass Jew-worshiping pusscake. Only an effeminate faggot like yourself could ever desire to be a submissive Bride of a swarthy Rabbi.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @anon
  489. Art says:
    @anon

    Unless one feels killing children is better than making them. Never know about them Jew-worshipers. lol

    Oh dear — the paid Hasbara Central Jesus haters – Dr. Robert and (277) – do you boys get extra pay for Sunday work?

    p.s. A Jew will say anything for a shekel.

    • Replies: @anon
  490. Art says:
    @anon

    I’m none of the above; you only demonstrate your ignorance of European tradition—which by your logic means you can be only a conniving Jew or dumb nigger!

    Hasbara shows itself!

    • Replies: @anon
  491. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    >> Jesus causes division
    > Only between Christians and their enemies.

    Then your enemies are your own blood kin, as Jewsus stated here:


    > satan worshiper.

    You’re the true believer in that mythology, not me.

    > so eagerly misquote

    That’s a lie, liar; and why I took a screenshot above.

    > they’re united

    Sure, I’ve heard that line from the Ecumenical Movement and World Council of Churches.

    • Replies: @anon
  492. Art says:
    @anon

    He image of god was different from his tribe’s

    Not so much. “Christ our Passover lamb.” Original Christianity is just a slight variation of Tribe value

    Hmm – “just a slight” — is that why you murdered Him?

    Is that why you you try to murder him again – today?

    Hasbara!

    • Replies: @anon
  493. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dube

    No, not news, just inconsequential, because no Christian church bases their theology solely on Melchizedek while excluding the rest of the Bible. Yours is just another desperate attempt to de-Jew what cannot be de-Jewed.

    • Replies: @Dube
  494. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dube

    Choice? Never studied the Libet Experiments in the early 1980s? 550 milliseconds between the electro-chemical physics in your brain and you perceiving that you made a choice is practically as long as an eternity.

    • Replies: @Dube
  495. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    You’re psychologically projecting again, Jew-worshiper.

    • Replies: @Art
  496. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Anything for a shekel, that’s you! Fact is, Jewsus won’t accept those who aren’t eager to sell out their blood and soil and earn a “hundredfold” payola for their betrayal.

    • “And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.” -Matthew 19:29

    • Replies: @Art
  497. Art says:
    @anon

    You’re psychologically projecting again, Jew-worshiper.

    Oh dear — hasbara again!

    • Replies: @anon
  498. Art says:
    @anon

    Anything for a shekel, that’s you! Fact is, Jewsus won’t accept those who aren’t eager to sell out their blood and soil and earn a “hundredfold” payola for their betrayal.

    Oh my — (107) this time – Does Hasbara Central have a direct pipe line to the US?

  499. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    You worship the “King of Israel,” (John 1:49) and fanatically evangelize your worship of the King of Israel, and thus it is you who are the “public diplomacy in Israel,” i.e. “Hasbara.”

    • Replies: @Art
  500. Robjil says:
    @anon

    It is ironic that the biggest 500 BC Old Testament worshipers are the Liberals. The Liberals all over the worst-than, former western world, sip up all the 500 BC OT MSM as the ” Truth”. Two groups are fighting each, Liberals and non- Liberals, in the worst-than world. Meanwhile, the laughing third, the 500 BC thinking OT puppet masters, are laughing and laughing while these two foolish groups fight each other.

    Here are some examples of Liberals spouting 500 BC OT mania:

    Pelosi- If the US capitol falls, the one thing that we shall do, is to support Israel.

    Mad Albright ( Aldumb) – “500,000 Iraq children dying is OK. ” This is an example of labeling people Amalek. Amalek is a tribe in the 500 BC OT that Yahweh told the Israelites to completely destroy.

    Shumer – Israel has the rights to land because they have the Torah. Palestinians don’t have the Torah, so they have “no rights” to the land.

    Wesley Clark- Seven nations to be destroyed for nine eleven. A Pentagon official said that this is the plan for the nine eleven false flag. The seven nations to destroy comes from Deut. 7. 1-2

    Hillary- It would be “good” for Israel for Syria to be destroyed by a Sunni-Shia war.

    Hillary – About the killing of Ghadafi, she said “We came, we saw and he died.” Then she laughed.

  501. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    You worship a Hasbara Rabbi. “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24)

  502. Art says:
    @anon

    You worship the “King of Israel”

    Oh my —- (107) & Mr. Robert BORING hasbara again – come on you guys – get a life!

    • Replies: @anon
  503. Edomite says:

    This article holds the false premise that “Jews” wrote the Old Testament although it’s clear they are Edomite converts. The ancient JUDAHITES (which is the correct term) were of Aryan stock.

    http://esau.today/white-racial-characteristics-of-adamites-shemites-hebrews-israelites-judahites-of-scripture/

    The Yahwe is therefore the Aryan God that is metaphorically advising to eliminate the Canaanites of whom the modern day Jews descent. But as they did the mistake and started to convert them to Israelites religion they have now got into their positions as imposters and impersonators.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  504. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    You equate the Jew Testament phrase “King of Israel” (John 1:49) with Hasbara propaganda. Thing is, it’s true. That’s the whole point of this article against which you petulantly rage.

    > get a life!

    That’s pretty good advice, Art! Certainly better than Hasbara Rabbi Jewsus’ advice to hate your life.

    • Jesus: Hate…even your own life. (Luke 14:26)
    • Jesus: Anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life. (John 12:25)

    Do regale us with your fanatical explanation how Jewsus’ life-hating demands are “idealistic.”

    • Replies: @Art
  505. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Edomite

    Judes are the Real Aryans! Um, is this a tryout for Comedy Central?

    P.S. Do you really think there’s a difference between “Jew” and “Jude·ah·ites?” You may as well try to parse a hair’s difference between Hog and Hawg.

  506. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Edomite

    P.S. I popped into your website; the very first sentence is malarkey. There never was an “Adam & Eve” single breeding pair in all of human history, and geneticists have decisively proven it (Li, H., and R. Durbin, 2011; Sheehan, S., K. Harris, and Y. S. Song, 2013). A synopsis of their genetic work—and how it relates to biblical creationism—follows after the More button:

    [MORE]

    The facts first. Sheehan et al., building on earlier work by Li and Durbin, calculated that the minimum population size associated with the worldwide expansion of humans out of Africa roughly 100,000 years ago was 2,250 individuals, while the population that remained in Africa was no smaller than about 10,000 individuals. For population geneticists, this is the “effective population size,” invariably smaller than the census size, so these are minimum estimates, and ones derived from conservative assumptions. The population sizes are estimated by back-calculating (based on reasonable estimates of mutation rates and other genetic parameters) how small an ancestral population could be and still give rise to the observed level and structure of genetic variation in our species.

    Note: 2,500 is larger than two.

    This means, of course, that Adam and Eve couldn’t have been the literal ancestors of all humanity. Normally, such a scientific trashing of scripture could be absorbed, at least by liberal theologians. They’d just reinterpret Adam and Eve as metaphors. But that causes big trouble on two counts…

    Jerry Coyne (2013) Scientists Try to Reconcile Adam and Eve Story, Whiff. Again. New Republic.
    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115759/adam-eve-theologians-try-reconcile-science-and-fail

    • Replies: @Edomite
  507. Art says:
    @anon

    Dear-o-dear — poor little (107) – another little Jewish clone boy raised to hate the world by his mean elders. They terrorized him with fears that everyone wanted to kill him. His abuse is manifest in his mendacious comments. Sad sad sad!

    Some little Jews have the courage to overcome their indoctrination – but obviously not (107).

    • Replies: @anon
  508. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    > His abuse is manifest in his mendacious comments.

    If you consider the Jew Testament as abusive and mendacious text, then you have a point, since I keep quoting the Holy Hook written by Jews. Consider my quoting the Holy Hook as aversion therapy for you; I trust you’re not the ungrateful sort.

    > another little Jewish clone boy raised to hate the world by his mean elders

    Like this world-hating Jewish clone boy?

    • “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.” (1 John 2:15)

    > they terrorized him with fears

    Do you not consider Rabbi Jewsus terrorizing his fellow Jews with fear as “idealistic?”

    • “But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into Gehenna; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.” (Matthew 10:28)

    Gehenna sounds like a Texas Chainsaw Massacre! I think it’s a valley over in Israel, where you’re from, or want to be forever, or something. Anyway, if teaching fear is Badjewish, and Badjewish Jesus taught fear, why do you worship this Badjew, anyway? I await your erudite reply.

    • Replies: @Art
  509. painter says:

    Look at the root problem of the abrahamic faiths- they are false and promote evil.

    http://www.evilbible.com

    • Replies: @anon
  510. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @painter

    LOL! That’s pretty good! And here’s a comical look, by the British comedy show That Mitchell and Webb Look, at the faith of Abraham:

    https://www.metatube.com/en/videos/27349/God-Is-Smart/

  511. Art says:
    @anon

    Oh my – (107) types 200 words of intended invective and hate – where does it come from – what is the source of all this hate? Is it nurtured – is it genetic? It seems that Hasbara Central has no problem find willing workers.

    It is sad to think that there is a whole culture of these haters.

    • Replies: @anon
  512. Seraphim says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    Unfortunately there is nothing one can do to make the Catholics understand, let alone to accept, that they are not the judges of the Univers.

    • Replies: @anon
  513. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    > what is the source of all this hate?

    Jewsus. His own words, red letter edition. I’m just quoting him.

    Looks like I’m gonna have to break-it-down-Barney-style for you, with a bit of Biblical Art:

    • Replies: @Art
  514. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Not the judges of the Univers,[sic] say you? Have you never read the Holy Hook?

    “Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world, and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?” (1 Corinthians 6:2)

  515. anon[441] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    The cult of Eostre as practiced in Europe, traces back to the Hindu, obviously non-white, goddess Ushas, I suspect it’s OK with you since it’s not Jew worship, and Easter isn’t even called that outside of the Anglo and Saxon countries.

    Buona Pasqua. Jesus and his disciples celebrated Passover.

    The rabbit symbol and its association with Easter cannot be traced further back than 17th century Bavaria, in England, no earlier than the 16th century, it was hunted for in spring, it symbolized easy to obtain meat, not fertility.

    >Unless one feels killing children is better than making them. Never know about them Jew-worshipers. lol

    Paganism and witchcraft is what barren and infertile, bitter women turn to when they realize they will never attract a man. Christians are expected to “be fruitful and multiply”, which they do, in North America only Muslims edge them out.

    >killing children

    https://www.sciencealert.com/dozens-of-neolithic-human-sacrifice-victims-have-been-found-in-england

    • Replies: @anon
  516. Jesus had many run-ins with the Jewish religious authorities, Pharisees, and even said to them “your father, the devil”. He is also quoted as saying “I am the son of God”. However, it could have been misinterpreted from “I am A son of God” which indicate that all people are sons of Gods….not just him. That’s the difference in how interpretation from the word “the” to “a” can have massive impact on the entire context. It would have been another world changer just by the use of the word “a” rather than “the”.

    I can relate to Marcion, except he did not believe Jesus had physical form and I think he did. Jesus may have had exposure to Buddhism if he had been in Egypt like described. If so, that may be where he got his Mustard seed parable, as a similar parable is in the Dhamapada. In any event, his path was completely different from what the Jewish Scribe’s path dictates.

    His message of love and the ability of EACH OF US to attain Christhood, was completely destroyed by the “Church Fathers”. Before that, early Christians were more of the Gnostic nature and women were also respected priestesses. The Church Fathers demoted the females (maybe cuz Yahweh doesn’t have a feminine consort like the other tribal gods, kind of like an angry old bachelor that never marries cuz women find him repulsive)…

    • Replies: @anon
  517. anon[283] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    >The OT is hardly ever mentioned in Judais? You’re a comedian, right? LOL Good one!

    You wish:

    For example, traditionally religious Jews pay little attention to most of the Old Testament, and even very learned rabbis or students who have devoted many years to intensive study may remain largely ignorant of its contents. Instead, the center of their religious world view is the Talmud, an enormously large, complex, and somewhat contradictory mass of secondary writings and commentary built up over many centuries, which is why their religious doctrine is sometimes called “Talmudic Judaism.” Among large portions of the faithful, the Talmud is supplemented by the Kabala, another large collection of accumulated writings, mostly focused on mysticism and all sorts of magic.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

    You pagans have more in common with them than we do.

    • Replies: @anon
  518. Art says:
    @anon

    what is the source of all this hate?

    Jewsus.

    There is the hate – that is an insulting hate word. It insults billions, in Christian heritage nations.

    Hasbara thinks noting of it!

    • Replies: @Dube
    , @anon
    , @anon
  519. anon[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    As to that obscure lying website you reference, Christianity existed without any art for centuries. Pagans would never have persecuted them, had Christianity been an offshoot of their cults. Make up your mind- was Jesus a Rabbi, did Christianity originate from the Jewish faith or from paganism, maybe both, lol.

    Christians in the Roman Empire used to worship in Synagogues as late as the 4th century to disguise themselves as Jews to avoid persecution and to take advantage of all the rights accorded to them, because pagan Rome, since Julius Caesar, had recognized Judaism as a legal religion.

    The Jewish faith prohibits and treats paintings and sculptures of God as idolatry. Christian art followed much later, neither the art, nor the mythology behind those deities has anything to do with Christianity.

    That website is a joke, how else are you supposed to sculpt a shepherd, or a woman holding a child? Superficial resemblance is not enough to prove anything. Maybe we can conclude Christianity derives from paganism because pagan temples are buildings just like churches, lol. These morons would be telling us Pachamama is the archetype of the Madonna if they could get away with it. Art has a life of its own, old themes inspire new, Napoleon would have his image sculpted to look like Caesar, despite the name, Charlemagne’s domain was not the Roman Empire. Forget art, even advanced inventions and scientific ideas have been developed independently.

    • Replies: @anon
  520. anon[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    >Then your enemies are your own blood kin, as Jewsus stated:

    My blood kin are my immediate family, who, not incidentally, happen to share my religion and values, strangers of my own race are not my kin, unless their philosophy and character matches mine. They’re adversaries otherwise and may become active enemies under the right conditions- when they allow themselves to be led astray into Neopaganism- to hate me- by the usual suspects.

    Britons, Gaelic Scots, and Anglo-Saxons never really acted like kin, all this without ever hearing about Jesus.

    Germanic pagans have been warring against each other like mad, for control over agriculture sustaining lands, since long before they turned on pagan Rome, as global cooling and climate change was pushing them further and further south.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
    , @Robjil
  521. Dube says:
    @Art

    Howls from the Pit.

    • Replies: @anon
  522. anon[107] • Disclaimer says: