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Trump was right about 9/11 but they weren't Muslims

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Senator Rand Paul, supported by a number of other congressmen, has demanded that the 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission Report that explored the Saudi Arabian role in the terrorist attack be made public. The redacted section of the report, which apparently concluded that the Saudi government itself played no direct role in 9/11, nevertheless contained considerable evidence suggesting that wealthy Saudis and even members of the Royal Family had been supporting and funding al-Qaeda. Some who have actually read the 28 pages were reported to be shocked by what was revealed.

Recent comments by presidential aspirant Donald Trump indicating that he was aware of people celebrating the terrorist attack in New Jersey, whom he described as “Muslims” numbering in their thousands, might well be regarded as misremembering events that took place over fourteen years ago. Or it could just possibly be part of a deliberate scheme to establish a false narrative that would fit nicely with Trump’s stated desire to surveil mosques, waterboard suspects and subject all Muslims to extraordinary scrutiny by the police.

The Trump over-the-top comments were greeting with disbelief and debunked by many media pundits. They were even denounced by some Republicans competing with him for the GOP nomination. But what is really astonishing about the reaction was the failure to connect the dots with what actually happened on 9/11. There were indeed people celebrating as the Twin Towers were burning and collapsing, but they were not Muslims. They were Israelis.

If the Saudi role in 9/11 is still classified secret it is regrettable, but the Israeli role, insofar as can be determined, was never seriously investigated at all and any conclusions, if there were any, were never included in the final report. This time around with the story being resurfaced by Trump one would think that a journalist or two just might be able to make the connection and realize that Donald may have actually been referring to a reported incident involving Israelis rather than Arabs and that he is possibly confusing one with the other.

But of course no one in the mainstream media did pick up on the connection, inhibited no doubt by the understanding that there are some things that one just does not write about Israel if one hopes to remain employed. That is true in spite of the fact that the Israeli angle to 9/11 is without a doubt a good story, one that has never been satisfactorily explored, but it is a tale that will have to remain mired in the alternative media where it can be marginalized by critics as a conspiracy theory or the product of anti-Semitism.

So for the benefit of Mr. Trump and for anyone else who might be interested, I will take it upon myself to relate what happened. Quite possibly Senator Paul will read this and decide that giving billions of dollars in aid annually to a country that just might have been linked to what occurred on 9/11 might no longer be a good idea. He might even demand an inquiry or a commission to look into it and determine what exactly the U.S. government does and does not know. That would be very interesting.

In the year 2001 Israel was running a massive spying operation directed against Muslims either resident or traveling in the United States. The operation included the creation of a number of cover companies in New Jersey, Florida and also on the west coast that served as spying mechanisms for Mossad officers. The effort was supported by the Mossad Station in Washington D.C. and included a large number of volunteers, the so-called “art students” who traveled around the U.S. selling various products at malls and outdoor markets. The FBI was aware of the numerous Israeli students who were routinely overstaying their visas and some in the Bureau certainly believed that they were assisting their country’s intelligence service in some way, but it proved difficult to actually link the students to actual undercover operations, so they were regarded as a minor nuisance and were normally left to the tender mercies of the inspectors at the Bureau of Customs and Immigration.

American law enforcement was also painfully aware that the Israelis were running more sophisticated intelligence operations inside the United States, many of which were focused on Washington’s military capabilities and intentions. Some specialized intelligence units concentrated on obtaining military and dual use technology. It was also known that Israeli spies had penetrated the phone systems of the U.S. government, to include those at the White House.

In its annual classified counterespionage review, the FBI invariably places Israel at the top for “friendly” countries that spy on the U.S. In fact, the pre-9/11 Bureau did its best to stay on top of the problem, but it rarely received any political support from the Justice Department and White House if an espionage case involved Israelis. By one estimate, more than 100 such cases were not prosecuted for political reasons. Any Israeli caught in flagrante would most often be quietly deported and most Americans who were helping Israel were let off with a slap on the wrist.

But the hands-off attitude towards Israel shifted dramatically when, on September 11, 2001, a New Jersey housewife saw something from the window of her apartment building, which overlooked the World Trade Center. She watched as the buildings burned and crumbled but also noted something strange. Three young men were kneeling on the roof of a white transit van parked by the water’s edge, making a movie in which they featured themselves high fiving and laughing in front of the catastrophic scene unfolding behind them. The woman wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police, who responded quickly and soon both the local force and the FBI began looking for the vehicle, which was subsequently seen by other witnesses in various locations along the New Jersey waterfront, its occupants “celebrating and filming.”

The license plate number revealed that the van belonged to a New Jersey registered company called Urban Moving Systems. At 4 p.m. the vehicle was spotted and pulled over. Five men between the ages of 22 and 27 years old emerged. They were detained at gunpoint and handcuffed. They were all Israelis. One of them had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock and another had two foreign passports. Bomb sniffing dogs reacted to the smell of explosives in the van.

According to the initial police report, the driver identified as Sivan Kurzberg, stated “We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.” The four other passengers were Sivan’s brother Paul, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari. The men were detained at the Bergen County jail in New Jersey before being transferred the FBI’s Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which handles allegations of spying.

After the arrest, the FBI obtained a warrant to search Urban Moving System’s Weehawken, N.J., offices. Papers and computers were seized. The company owner Dominick Suter, also an Israeli, answered FBI questions but when a follow-up interview was set up a few days later it was learned that he had fled the country for Israel, putting both his business and home up for sale. The office space and warehouse were abandoned. It was later learned that Suter has been associated with at least fourteen businesses in the United States, mostly in New Jersey and New York but also in Florida. Suter and his wife Omit Levinson Suter were the owners of 1 Stop Cleaner located in Wellington Florida and Dominick was also associated with Basia McDonnell, described as a Polish “holocaust survivor,” as a business partner in yet another business called Value Ad. Florida was a main focus for the Israeli intelligence operation in the U.S. that was directed against Arabs.

The five Israelis were held in Brooklyn, initially on charges relating to visa fraud. FBI interrogators questioned them for more than two months. Several were held in solitary confinement so they could not communicate with each other and two of them were given repeated polygraph exams, which they failed when claiming that they were nothing more than students working summer jobs. The two men that the FBI focused on most intensively were believed to be Mossad staff officers and the other three were volunteers helping with surveillance.

The Israelis were not exactly cooperative, but the FBI concluded from documents obtained at their office in Weehawken that they were targeting Arabs in New York and New Jersey, most particularly in the Paterson N.J. area, which has the second largest Muslim population in the U.S. They were particularly interested in local groups possibly linked to Hamas and Hezbollah as well as in charities that might be used for fund raising. The FBI also concluded that there was a distinct possibility that the Israelis had actually monitored the activities of at least two of the 9/11 hijackers.

To be sure, working on an intelligence operation does not necessarily imply participation in either the planning or execution of something like 9/11, but there are Israeli fingerprints all over the place, with cover companies and intelligence personnel often intersecting with locations frequented by the hijackers. And even possessing bits and pieces relating to the plot does not necessarily imply significant prior knowledge of it.

Apart from the interrogations of the five men from Weehawken, the U.S. government has apparently never sought to find out what else the Israelis might have known or were up to in September 2011. There are a lot a dots that might well have been connected once upon a time, but the trail has grown cold. Police records in New Jersey and New York where the men were held have disappeared and FBI interrogation reports are inaccessible. Media coverage of the case also died, though the five were referred to in the press as the “dancing Israelis” and by some, more disparagingly, as the “dancing Shlomos.”

Inevitably, the George W. Bush White House intervened. After 71 days in detention, the five Israelis were released from prison, put on a plane, and deported. Two of the men later spoke about their unpleasant experience in America on an Israeli talk show, one explaining that their filming the fall of the Twin Towers was to “document the event.” In 2004 the five men sued the United States government for damages, alleging “that their detention was illegal and that their civil rights were violated, suffering racial slurs, physical violence, religious discrimination, rough interrogations, deprivation of sleep, and many other offenses.” They were represented by Nitsana Darshan-Leitner, who in the previous year had founded the Shurat HaDin Israel Law Center which seeks to bankrupt groups that Israel considers to be “terrorists.” Shurat HaDin is closely tied to the Israeli government.

Now it is just possible that the Urban Moving Israelis were indeed uninvolved in 9/11 but nevertheless working for Mossad, which one has to suspect is the case. More than fourteen years later it is perhaps past time to reveal what exactly the FBI knew and currently knows about both the scale and modus operandi of Israeli espionage in the United States. Did Israel have critical intelligence either in broad outline or possibly in specific detail about 9/11 and let it happen to bind Washington more closely to it in a “global war on terror?” If Senator Rand Paul wants to learn more about the Saudis, it is fair to ask “What about Israel?” If Donald Trump wants to pillory fictional celebrating Muslims it is perhaps appropriate that he begin to take note of the actual celebrating Israelis who were caught in the act on 9/11.

 
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  1. go ahead Sam and Sherman, please tell us how this isn’t so. We’re all ‘ears’

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  2. Here’s a good break down of the dancing not-Muslim peoples from a certain not-to-be-named-in-connection-with-9/11-country in the middle east- watch the whole doc, I’d suggest, but the particular info is from appx the 14 min to 30 min mark:

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  3. Anybody that looks into the 9/11 attacks knows that Israeli hands were all over it. But the Israelis are “those of whom we do not speak of.” No one dare say what they know to be true, that the 9/11 attacks were a Zionist operation start to finish; that the World Trade towers were blown up; that the war in Iraq was promoted by the same Zionist lobby: that the entire war on terror is a complete lie.

    In George Orwell’s 1984 the motto for the Ministry of Truth is “war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.” I used to think…well… that is a fictional book and in real life you could never get people to believe anything so absurd. Wrong! The fact that the majority of people still believe the official narrative is a testament to the fact that you can get people to believe in far more ridiculous things than Orwell ever dreamed of.

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  4. All I can conclude from the story is that a bunch of Israelis were happy that US will now get into a endless war with Muslims and that is good for Israel. That seems like a reasonably good guess. After 9/11, countries that have been destroyed one way or other include , Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen and will eventually likely include Somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan, Nigeria, Egypt and many others.

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  5. In 2004 the five men sued the United States government for damages, alleging “that their detention was illegal and that their civil rights were violated, suffering racial slurs, physical violence, religious discrimination, rough interrogations, deprivation of sleep, and many other offenses.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chutzpah.

    Phil is not delivering any new information (that Raimondo of Antiwar.com has not summarized long ago). Therefore, there is no scoop here on Dancing Shlomos. But it is important to set the record straight who was dancing in New York.

    Also, this article with initiate now for the millionth time all the evidence and “evidence” about 911.

    Let me kick it off with a statement that the planes could not have brought down even the twin towers let alone WTC building 7. That was termite, military grade.

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  6. There are many unsolved mysteries surrounding the events of 9/11.

    Besides the money and the training and the motives behind the suicidal hijackings themselves, there’s the lingering matter of numerous eyewitness accounts by police and firemen which claimed “multiple explosions” at WTC before the two towers fell.

    There are also simmering questions relating to the presence of thermite and melted steel at Ground Zero.

    And there’s also at least one other extraordinary irregularity.

    Unbeknownst to millions of Americans even today, a third NYC skyscraper fell on 9/11 despite the fact that this modern, steel structure was never hit by an airplane.

    The 47-story-tall ‘Building 7′ collapsed into it own footprint at free-fall speed on the afternoon of Sept. 11th.

    A structural failure of this magnitude has never been seen before or since.

    This spectacular event was captured LIVE on film and has inspired a movement of architects and engineers (lead by Richard Gage, AIA) to ‘re-investigate 9/11′.

    Oddly, the Commission that was created to officially investigate the details of 9/11 did not examine Building 7′s unique collapse. Curious, that.

    Further, it must be acknowledged that many of the key investigators on the 9/11 Commission had either strong, personal ties to the State of Israel, or long and close affiliations with Israel’s lobby inside the United States. This inevitable bias is also applicable to many of America’s top news and entertainment executives. Thus, the thundering silence from NY to Hollywood over 911′s lingering ‘mysteries’.

    To what extent then have political pressures influenced the ‘findings’ and ‘lessons’ of 9/11?

    Was there a conflict-of-interest in play among some of the key investigators inside the 9/11 Commission itself?

    These persistent, unanswered questions suggest an even greater ‘who-done-it’.

    Who will finally unravel and distill the story behind the incremental hijacking of America’s ruling class?

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  7. Dear Mr Giraldi,

    Any individuals, who have set up a “movie camera” to film an event before it occurs…clearly have “apriori” knowledge of the event or its inevitability…….

    If the event is a premeditated crime , like a robbery or a murder, failure to notify the police, of its impending nature would make you an accessory to the crime….No?

    In the event that the crime is the greatest terrorist attack perpetrated against the United States since Pearl Harbor… failure to notify the FBI of its impending nature would make you an accessory to a terrorist act .

    Any attempts by any newspaper, news organization, lobbying group, foreign country , or individual to impede, obfuscate , disavow ,or cover up the reality of this occurrence would make them an accessory, after the fact ,also .

    Considering the United States is nearly “insolvent” from spending untold trillions of dollars of future generations of Americans tax money, fighting the heroic war on terror…don’t we owe it to them to at least get the facts right ?

    I don’t really care if they were Muslims, Israeli’s, or “Grandma’s from Savannah”..

    I say ” If you can’t do a “terrorists ” time…..don’t set up to film a ‘terrorists” crime !

    Take’em down.

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  8. I’m sure there are Israeli spies in America, but if these guys were spies, then why would they go on a popular late night talk show to deny it, and then sue the US government for damages?

    Granted that the Israelis aren’t the smartest people in the world, but it’s just common sense that if actual spies get caught and then released, you don’t draw media attention to it.

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  9. I think this is the first time I see an article about the dancing israelis in a serious publication.

    Which is nice. This is not something that should stay confined in /pol/ threads and yellow sites.

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  10. Several years ago I searched the Lexus nexis database to find news paper articles about this event. I found some and for what it’s worth I’ve kept them for posterity. Frankly I disbelieve the conventional story about September 11th.

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  11. The celebrating Muslims were not fictional. Hatred of the US is extremely widespread. You’re a complete naif if you don’t understand that people all over the world, especially Muslims, got a lot of pleasure from 9/11.

    The Sauds were intimately involved with Al Qaeda, but this is not exactly shocking. Since the hijackers were Saudi and Osama Bin Laden is from the Saudi elite.

    The rest of the article is mostly just rumour. You repeat the bit about the Israeli saying on TV that he was there to document 9/11 as if that is a good point in your favour. It is not, it is the opposite. First, it suggests that you don’t speak a second language and second, if I committed a momentous crime I wouldn’t randomly admit to it on TV, would you? Indeed had I any foreknowledge of it I would be extremely careful with what I said on TV and he wasn’t, he just has non native English.

    One lady, from a distance, perceived 5 Israeli semi-vagrants (if you were younger and travelled in places like SE Asia, you’d know what I mean) to be celebrating. You have spun up anow entire theory from this. Isn’t that nuts?

    As I said on another thread. If the Israelis were as nefarious as you want them to be and if they were as cohesive and capable as your fevered dreams imagine them then they would not be setting up a group linked to Afghanistan. They would set up one of the hundreds of groups linked to Palestine. As the Israeli himself said in your article!

    Furthermore if the plan was some ridiculously long timeline effort to convert a random blue sky think piece from the 80s into reality (Oded Yinon) then don’t you think that the invasion of Afghanistan, which lasted much longer than Iraq, counts against you. What could that country possibly have to do with Israel?

    This is a very poor quality article, written in Giraldi’s normal style of confidently put assertion with no logic or substance to back it up. What evidence there is gets followed by ridiculous non sequiturs and outright dishonesty.

    Who is paying you? Or has senility come early.

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  12. 9/11 was a Cheney-Netanyahoo-Bandar Bush operation and Osama Bin Laden was the patsy.

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  13. On another point, it is hilarious that so many of you think that the media is out to get Muslims when Trump says one thing and the entire media goes nuts to try and prove him wrong.

    Also you try and have it both ways. On one hand you say that Muslims have every right to feel aggrieved with America and the you say that it is impossible that they would celebrate America’s misfortune. Which is it?

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  14. Who is paying you? Or has senility come early.

    To be fair, the question is who is paying you?

    For those who are unaware, I had a few exchanges with this character and it culminated with this comment:

    Wow, with that response, I can definitely say you certainly are someone who is desperately seeking the truth. If you are not already in politics, may I suggest you pursue that as a possible career path, as you’ve provided a smashing demonstration of “spinning the truth.”

    Could you also do me a favour, could you demonstrate your unique skill set by putting forward your best arguments that:

    The world is flat?
    The sun revolves around the earth?
    The universe is only 6 thousand years old?

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  15. 9/11 and the Great American Decline by BAR executive editor Glen Ford

    “9/11 was wielded as a kind of weapon to take down the planet.”

    “So, what do you think will happen now?” The question was posed by the taller of two young Israelis, my sole companions in this section of Liberty State Park on the Jersey City side of the Hudson River, the morning of September 11, 2001.

    “Everything has changed,” I replied, unaware that the same phrase was simultaneously forming on the lips of millions around the globe.

    “Yes, everything has changed,” said the Israeli, looking not at all displeased. He turned to resume taking photos of the greatsmoking space that had been the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center, and of the huge, low cloud that drifted across New York Bay to Brooklyn.

    My fellow witnesses to the collapse of the second tower were already positioned at the riverbank when I arrived at the scene on foot after having rushed past police who blocked all vehicular entrance to the park. The athletic, military age duo were clicking away with two very expensive-looking cameras. They spoke excitedly to each other in Hebrew – a language I instantly recognized from my two decades as a Manhattanite – but clumsily claimed to be
    “Polish” when I asked where they were from. I pretended to believe they were visitors from Poland.

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/node/966

    To use if a case of Glen Greenwald anti-Semitism breaks out.

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  16. Exactly! Thanks Arnold.

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  17. Donald Trump is no fool. He made that statement to join the rest of 16 or so presidential hopefuls to sleep with the powerful Jewish Lobby and get the support of all those White racists who want an America without Natives, Blacks and especially Muslims who carry hatred of Zionists occupying Palestine.

    I just read David Cole’s recent rant at Taki’s magazine in which claimed that 9/11 attack was celebrated in Berlin streets by Muslim Turk-German citizen. He was trying to support Putin’s claim that Turkey is main force behind ISIS – not ISIS mother, the US-Israel.

    Now, if you believe that David Cole is as smart as Putin – think twice …. nor five times. David Cole who is Jewish and a blind supporters of the Zionist regime, claimed in February 2015: “Holocaust is based on Fakes, Forgeries and Frauds”.

    http://rehmat1.com/2015/02/19/david-cole-holocaust-is-based-on-fakes-frauds-and-forgeries/

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  19. Winston Churchill said that on the night after Pearl Harbor he “went to bed and slept the sleep of the saved and thankful.” I expect that joyful would be an accurate word, but not politically appropriate.

    I do not doubt that many Israelis felt thankful after 9/11. That would be a normal reaction of someone facing an existential threat.

    People are going to have lots of opinions, but citing the fact that Israelis felt relief or even joy that the US was having to face reality is not support for conspiracy theories, IMO.

    According to the initial police report, the driver identified as Sivan Kurzberg, stated “We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.”

    While this statement reveals a little tunnel vision in narrowly referring to “Palestinians”, it is not unreasonable.

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  20. nevertheless contained considerable evidence suggesting that wealthy Saudis and even members of the Royal Family had been supporting and funding al-Qaeda. Some who have actually read the 28 pages were reported to be shocked by what was revealed.

    Well since Al Qaeda has been financed with US and Saudi money since the it’s creation in Afghanistan that certainly makes sense. The idea that the US could raise a pit viper and always be able to grab it right behind it’s head to avoid getting bit was always a bit silly.

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  22. Anybody who lives in the NYC metropolitan area knows that Israelis have a niche in owning moving companies. Some of these companies are established and licensed and legit. Others are a bit shady and are likely run by young Israelis just out of the army who are overstaying their visas trying to earn a little cash.

    The moving company noted in this article was clearly in the latter category.

    To state that these movers had connections to Israeli intelligence doesn’t mean much. Nobody denies that these guys were IDF veterans and just about every member of the Israeli military has some connection to Israeli intelligence.

    If these guys were indeed laughing at the sight of the WTC collapsing I would attribute to immaturity and shock. I mean, I was in NYC at the time and my office had a clear view of the towers. People were so stunned they didn’t know what to say or how to react. There were plenty of stupid comments and even some morbid and inappropriate jokes going around.

    I highly doubt these dudes were part of some top secret Mossad operation as the Israelis are smart enough not to put boneheads like this in charge of such a critical mission.

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  23. And where might that “military grade thermite” have come from in the amount needed? Frankly, the assertion is worse than silly.

    The planes did bring the towers down.

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  24. We know what brought the twin towers down. Building 7 is a different matter. That one still strikes me as strange and have never seen what I regard as a reasonable explanation of it.

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  25. “That was termite, military grade.”

    Termite — even military grade termite — is useless against steel and concrete. It is only effective against wooden structures. Special forces, rangers, and other commando type units carry termite only in conditions, such as jungle warfare, where wood and wood-related materials are the most common building materials. [See Special Forces Jungle Demolition Techniques, US Armed Forces Publication US-A-SF-1076.3, 2007 edition,]

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  26. If these guys were indeed laughing at the sight of the WTC collapsing I would attribute to immaturity and shock.

    Nice try, Sherm.

    Direct quote from eye witness: “They looked happy, they didn’t looked shocked.”

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  28. Let me kick it off with a statement that the planes could not have brought down even the twin towers let alone WTC building 7. That was termite, military grade.

    The military trained termites to chew down buildings? Possible, I guess, but wouldn’t it only work on wooden buildings?

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  29. Another Federal agency had positive proof of Mossad links to various groups of Israeli´s operating in the U.S. who were obviously involved in surveilling the 9/11 terrorists. The Israelis DID have advance knowledge of the plot and chose not to inform us; they may well have had controlled agents inside of the terrorist group guiding it. The FBI was presented with this indisputable intelligence on Israeli involvement and declined to investigate further, plainly stating that this was for domestic political reasons. There was an acrimonious exchange over the issue but in the end nothing happened. treason reached very high into the Bush Administration, and Wolfowitz, Perle, Feither and others of that ilk were the ringmasters.

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  30. How these dancing Israelis were so sure that it was a terrorist act and that the perpetrators were Arabs? The CIA asset Ben Laden never took responsibility for the attack. How come that the Israelis were so well positioned to observe the destruction and to do the videotaping? Do you see any connection between the Israelis’ joy and the Oded Yinon (PNAC) plan that since then has been implemented in the Middle East against the mostly civilian population in the formerly functioning Middle eastern states?
    “Live by the sword, die by the sword.”

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  31. The US is so thoroughly taken by the parasitoid that there is no salvation for this country.

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  32. “…treason reached very high into the Bush Administration, and Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith and others of that ilk were the ringmasters.” Exactly. But see the smugness of the main architects and ideologists of the hollowing out the USA for the benefit of the “promised land.” They are indeed untouchable. The control of MSM is quite complete. The only problem for the chosen is a relatively well armed Russian federation. Hence the visceral hatred by Zionists of RF and the outright indecency of the White House re Ukraine, Syria, and particularly, with regard to the recent tragedies in the air (SU-24 and the civilian plane with more than 200 people on board), which were most likely sponsored and arranged by the same Mossad/CIA scum.

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  33. Haha, look at how fast these nuts swarm. Unz, I hope you’re at least making some money off of these kooks. Does Unz.com even have advertising? I use a suite of software to block ads and adware, so I never know.

    The third building falling is a bit of a conundrum for the Muslim/Russian Nationalist Conspiracy Nuts:

    1. It was just one of those crazy things.
    2. The American gov’t thought it would be a great idea to just demolish the third building in mysterious fashion. Sort of like a “we’re so badass, we can just bring down a building and nobody will suspect a thing” thing.

    Makes no fucking sense at all, but hey, these are Muslim/Russian Nationalist Conspiracy Nuts we’re talking about; it doesn’t have to make any sense.

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    What I don’t get is the motivation for cheering. Did they believe it would mean there would be solidarity with Israel against the Palestinians? Why would this matter, since Israel faces little attacks by Palestinians and Israel acts diabolically and genocidally toward them without any consequences? Did they believe it would mean the U.S. would do what it has done in the past 15 years, namely, spend trillions and kill millions to mitigate Israel’s threats (state actor threats)?

    It does seem really, really curious that FBI would keep a few of them in solitary confinement and hold them for months, give them poles, and FBI interrogators who question them repeatedly if there was not some smoking, damning evidence. And I’m sure few people are privy to this evidence– maybe not even Comey– and if the evidence still exists it is guarded with hyper-top secret protection deep inside FBI counterintelligence rooms that few are allowed to access and none without authorization and colleague escort.

    Why was the CIA not brought in? Can the FBI trust the CIA in such a circumstance? NYPD has Jewish NYPD officers/representatives in Israel and they work together on intelligence issues. Does this make FBI counterintelligence a little uncomfortable working closely with NYPD and providing all of its information? The deputy commissioner of the NYPD, John Miller, is married to Emily Helen Altschul, daughter of banking mogul and Goldman Sachs Group partner Arthur Goodhart Altschul. Alas, the world of finance ultimately controls everything, including law, policing, foreign policy, intelligence, et al.

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  35. I bought a sceptical vid. at a local govt. place, enjoyed watching it,
    entertaining, not so informative, already knew most.

    It was interesting that it was for sale in a local govt. space.

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  36. Here’s a proper link for that Newsweek story (Newsweek’s site is coded by morons and incorrectly categorizes people who never visit their site (like me) as having “used up” their allowance of 5 free stories a month):

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.newsweek.com/israel-flagged-top-spy-threat-us-new-snowdennsa-document-262991

    And a good story linked in that article:

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.newsweek.com/israels-aggressive-spying-us-mostly-hushed-250278

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  37. Perhaps the “military grade thermite” came from the same source as the military grade anthrax spores — which was determined to be a US military installation. Is one any less likely than the other?

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  38. John P. O’Neill was forced out of the FBI after repeatedly warning that certain people from the ME had easy access in and out of the US. Certain people within the FBI had warned him off further investigations into some dodgy Saudi’s who O’Neill was best placed and best qualified to deem a threat and worth further investigations.

    The MO was typical and people here should recognize it immediately.

    His suitcase containing important documents was stolen and he found himself hounded out of his position for incompetence when in reality he had become too good of an anti-terrorist operator for certain people in the US deep state (Zionist 5th column) as they had him appointed to the WTC as a security advisor.

    He died on 9/11.

    Just another coincidence…. Move on, nothing to see here.

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  39. Anybody who lives in the NYC metropolitan area knows that Israelis have a niche in owning moving companies.

    Yes, Jews are famous for their niches: anything involving skullduggery, or helpful in same. You know, manipulating opinion (media, publishing, “journalism”), information flow (middle men, media, intelligence, espionage, security, communications, hookers n’ blow, moving companies, etc.), subversion (politics, media), and of course, financing the whole shebang (banking, Wall Street).

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  40. All I can conclude from the story is that a bunch of Israelis were happy that US will now get into a endless war with Muslims and that is good for Israel. That seems like a reasonably good guess. After 9/11, countries that have been destroyed one way or other include , Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen and will eventually likely include Somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan, Nigeria, Egypt and many others.

    Dat not seksy enoff for Muslim/Russian Nationalist Konspiracy Kook.

    I’m sure there are Israeli spies in America, but if these guys were spies, then why would they go on a popular late night talk show to deny it, and then sue the US government for damages?

    Because 1) they’re Jewish, 2) their cover was blown, and 3) people like you would buy it as the perfect cover story?

    As I said on another thread. If the Israelis were as nefarious as you want them to be and if they were as cohesive and capable as your fevered dreams imagine them then they would not be setting up a group linked to Afghanistan. They would set up one of the hundreds of groups linked to Palestine. As the Israeli himself said in your article!

    Why would they do that?

    Furthermore if the plan was some ridiculously long timeline effort to convert a random blue sky think piece from the 80s into reality (Oded Yinon) then don’t you think that the invasion of Afghanistan, which lasted much longer than Iraq, counts against you. What could that country possibly have to do with Israel?

    Invade MENA is part of the NeoCohen strategy. Better to invade a peripheral MENA country than no MENA country at all.

    On another point, it is hilarious that so many of you think that the media is out to get Muslims when Trump says one thing and the entire media goes nuts to try and prove him wrong.

    NeoCohen goal is Invade MENA, Invite the World (into the West, not Israel). Making villains out of Muslims thwarts the second clause. The goal is to destabilize MENA AND destroy the West. Vast majority of Muslim/Russian Nationalist Konspiracy Kooks are too stupid and/or full of shit to acknowledge this.

    Winston Churchill said that on the night after Pearl Harbor he “went to bed and slept the sleep of the saved and thankful.” I expect that joyful would be an accurate word, but not politically appropriate.

    I do not doubt that many Israelis felt thankful after 9/11. That would be a normal reaction of someone facing an existential threat.

    People are going to have lots of opinions, but citing the fact that Israelis felt relief or even joy that the US was having to face reality is not support for conspiracy theories, IMO.

    Yes, this is how I imagine Israeli self-deception working. Very slick and wholly self-centered.

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  41. “Existential Threat,” lol. What’s that? The Haredim?

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    Locksmithing is also another shady business with many opportunities for skullduggery. I was once locked out and called the services of a local locksmith that I just found in the phone book or something, and when the locksmith came, he was acting suspiciously and clearly trying to rip me off, so I politely asked him to leave, at which point he started acting in a hostile and aggressive manner and screaming and didn’t leave until I called the police. He was a burly Israeli guy wearing a star of David necklace, and I didn’t think anything of it, until I heard later on that there was a nationwide locksmithing scam run by Israelis using seemingly local locksmith shops as fronts:

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  43. Well, at least Jews are smart enough to create niches.

    You’re too dumb to have a niche.

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  44. Mind your manners, Svigor. This is not an illegal Israeli settlement or an Ukrainian village.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/12/01/the-us-russia-proxy-war-in-syria/

    “The administration’s neocons who keep demanding an escalation of tensions with Russia include Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland. Then, there are the officials most identified with arms procurement, sales and use, such as Defense Secretary Ashton Carter… Besides the neocons’ close ties to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the neocons are intimately connected to the interests of the Military-Industrial Complex, which provides substantial funding for the major think tanks where many neocons hang their hats and churn out new arguments for more world conflict and thus more military spending.”

    https://citizenactionmonitor.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/us-neocons-whose-war-mongering-has-already-brought-death-to-millions-in-iraq-are-at-it-again/

    “With a militarized Republic has come the loss of liberty through surveillance and “perception management” of the public. .. When information is systematically pushed through a filter designed to ensure consent, the core democratic concept of an informed electorate has been turned on its head…. All this has been part of the neocon approach dating back to the 1980s when key operatives, such as Robert Kagan and Elliott Abrams, were part of inter-agency task forces designed to whip the American people into line behind the government’s aggressive war policies. Guided by seasoned CIA propagandists, such as Walter Raymond Jr., the neocons learned their lessons well.”

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  45. I wouldn’t credit Jews with creating those niches, but apparently that level of ANTISEMITISM!!! isn’t beyond you. Have at it.

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    Well, at least Jews are smart enough to create niches.

    You’re too dumb to have a niche.

    think about that for a minute –( more if you’re a Jew — they always demand special exemptions, maybe because they need them):

    niche
    [niCH, nēSH]
    a shallow recess, especially one in a wall to display a statue or other ornament.
    synonyms: recess · alcove · nook · cranny · hollow · bay · cavity ·
    (one’s niche)

    a comfortable or suitable position in life or employment:
    “he is now a partner at a leading law firm and feels he has found his niche”
    synonyms: ideal position · place · function · vocation · calling ·

    a specialized segment of the market for a particular kind of product or service:
    “he believes he has found a niche in the market” ·

    In all cases, “niche” is a small part, even a very small part, carved out of a larger pre-existing entity that, implicitly, someone else created.

    who created that larger body?
    According to Sherman, it was not a Jew.

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  47. We watched TV coverage of the 9/11 attacks and during the first few days saw footage of unidentified persons who were recorded in New Jersey seemingly celebrating the attacks. I don’t know who they were, but resembled Mideast ethnicity – which could have been any, including Israeli. It wasn’t said who they were, citizen or otherwise, but it was very disturbing and provocative.

    I remarked to my family that I believed it dangerous to air such video, as the emotional climate was such as it amounted to mob incitement. As Glenn Greenwald put it in his recent Intercept article, “the post-9/11 climate in the U.S. was dangerous for Muslims, and had the U.S. president ignored the potential for mindless vengeance against a small and marginalized minority, or worse, had he stoked it, some extremely ugly and terrorizing sentiments could easily have been unleashed.”

    I thought then wiser heads, recognizing this danger, pulled the video and we saw it no more after a day or two, although other images endlessly repeated.

    I’m not a Trump fan, but the images he saw that were supposed to be folks celebrating our disaster, really were aired, and I remember them well, due to how dangerous I believed it was to show them. I think that although this now seems to have disappeared down a memory hole, that it certainly contributed to a revengeful “bring it on” attitude and the general persecution of innocents that Glenn Greenwald is making sure is not buried in a retroactive whitewash of convenient misremembering.

    Even more so is this important to understand, for as Phil Giraldi’s careful research indicates, that if the videos were not genuine celebrations of the tower takedowns, it makes it seem likely that the videos which I know were aired, may well have been taken as these Israeli operatives performed celebrations for their own propaganda video, sincere or not.

    If that was discovered to be the case, it is no wonder they were pulled, nor any wonder that it now must be claimed they never existed, in Orwellian fashion.

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  48. This is so ironic! Look what just got posted on FreeRepublic, a really ignorant right wing site:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3366803/posts

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  49. Well. The threat is indeed existential

    http://thesaker.is/is-turkey-waging-war-on-russia-in-crimea-the-caucasus-and-central-asia-sputnik-news-interviews-saker/

    “Given the fact that ISIL has been created and fuelled by a number of states and private donors, which geopolitical players are resisting Russia’s attempts to eradicate terrorism in the region and preserve the sovereignty of Syria? Is Russia confronting a bunch of terrorists fed by Saudi and Qatari sheikhs or some well-organized multi-national organizations?
    As for Daesh, it is simply one ‘weapon’ used by the [US] Empire to destroy its opponents. There is no such thing as ‘terrorism’ by itself, it is always a weapon used by one (or several) state actors…
    What is taking place today is a world war between, on one hand, the so-called ‘West’ (the US Empire) and the ‘Resistance’ i.e., Russia, China, the BRICS, the SCO countries, Latin America, etc. What is at stake here is the future of our planet…”

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  50. Hello, fool. The woman did not see five Israeli vagrants. How in the hell would she know they were Israeli? She saw five males behaving in what she thought was a very suspicious manner
    And did the correct thing in calling the police.

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  51. It’s good that Philip Giraldi points the finger at Israel but he IS somewhat coy about the charges. That Israel might have had an involvement in 9/11 is a bit like saying they might have been involved in the USS Liberty attack.

    Briefly: The ‘dancing Israelis’ who by their own admission were there to ‘record the event’ thereby admitting pre-knowledge of the attack. Israeli-owned Odigo Systems whose employees were given advance warning and cleared the building, ICTS, the Israeli-owned airport security firm which controlled all airports from which the alleged hijackers boarded, and the inexplicable roles of Philip Zelekow, Dov Zakheim and Larry Silverstein among many others.

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  52. BIBI ADMITS ISRAELI FORCES ACTIVE IN SYRIA

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu admitted for the first time Tuesday that Israeli forces have been operating in Syria, where the Iran-backed regime is battling rebels including ISIS.

    “We occasionally carry out operations in Syria to prevent that country from becoming a front against us,” Netanyahu told reporters during a visit to northern Israel.

    “We also do everything to prevent weapons, particularly lethal ones, being moved from Syria to Lebanon,” he added.

    Netanyahu did not provide further details and his comments were the first public recognition that Israel has been active in conflict-riddled Syria.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/12/01/Israel-admits-forces-operating-in-war-hit-Syria.html

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  53. The point about the dancing Israelis is not that they celebrated, rather that they had foreknowledge of the event.

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  54. LoL! Splattered my keyboard at the military termites!

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    I remarked to my family that I believed it dangerous to air such video, as the emotional climate was such as it amounted to mob incitement. As Glenn Greenwald put it in his recent Intercept article, “the post-9/11 climate in the U.S. was dangerous for Muslims, and had the U.S. president ignored the potential for mindless vengeance against a small and marginalized minority, or worse, had he stoked it, some extremely ugly and terrorizing sentiments could easily have been unleashed.”

    There was an attempt to use 9/11, the images of Middle East Muslims cheering, and anthrax attacks to initiate the attack on Iraq. The first person sent anthrax in 10/2001 was Bob Stevens, photo editor at AMI in Boca Raton, FL. AMI published a large glossy magazine a week or two after 9/11 and included large, multi-page photos of Arabs in the Middle East cheering. The magazine special edition was at many supermarkets thoughtout the U.S. I bought one. I was shocked when I saw the photos of the Arabs cheering and thought it was a little un-PC. Shortly after this Bob Stevens, the photo editor for this magazine production, was targeted with anthrax and died. The message in the threats was stupid Islamic threats. The handwriting on the envelope was block-like and slanted down to the left, indicating it was written by someone whose language goes from right to left (Semitic, e.g., Arabic or Hebrew), and whose letters are boxy (Hebrew). There were attempts to link it to Saddam Hussein because it contained bentonite, specific to Saddam Hussein’s biological weapons program. This turned out to be bogus. When the investigation stalled and people were beginning to wonder who was really behind this and for what purpose, Barbara Rosenberg steps up and provides us with scapegoat Steven Hatfill. After years of calumny and suspicion against Hatfill, he was able to prove that he had nothing to do with the attacks (at least enough proof to win defamation lawsuits). So then Bruce Ivins is credited with the attack, after the FBI gaslights him and he takes his own life. Ivins colleagues believe he had nothing to do with the anthrax letters. The Chief of Bacteriology at Ft. Detrick said the lab did not have the equipment to make the anthrax spores in 2001. The head of the UN’s inspection team of Iraq’s biological weapons program said Ivins couldn’t have produced it. Doesn’t matter, we must believe Ivins did it and Michelangschlomo at Urban Moving Systems was innocent. But it turns out that it was not necessary to destroy a couple dozen lives to start a war. Two years later they got their wish and this time the yellow cake propaganda worked. The U.S. spent trillions of dollars and thousands of lives to destroy one of Israel’s non-aggressing but potential enemies.

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  56. Israelis are an ‘other’ with their own rational interests. These do not include flooding our nations with third worlders nor do they include us going to war in Afghanistan. I have no doubt that they try to influence us to support them in their endless struggle with the Palestinians but nor do I blame them.

    9/11 neither furthered their interests nor diminished them. I imagine that many Israelis would have been secretly ecstatic if Palestinians had done 9/11 and I imagine that they could have assumed that Palestinians did it because Israelis have Palestinians on the mind.

    To be fair to them, that’s hardly an inhuman emotion.

    Basically we just need to openly recognise where they’re coming from and deal with them accordingly. We do not need to construct absurd conspiracy theories nor listen to the billion Muslims desperate to have us believe in them. They also have their own interests and due to their greater proximity with us, in Europe at least, they have more conflicting interests.

    These points are not hard to understand. They are just standard realism with a dose of knowledge of humanity.

    It makes zero sense for Israelis to blow up the twin towers and then frame an Afghan based movement. Not only because the risks are tremendous and it is utterly immoral and difficult to do but because they did not benefit.

    This is my last post on this because I need to stop letting it waste my time but please stop letting this nonsense issue waste yours!

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  57. ” . . . The deputy commissioner of the NYPD, John Miller, is married to Emily Helen Altschul, daughter of banking mogul and Goldman Sachs Group partner Arthur Goodhart Altschul. Alas, the world of finance ultimately controls everything, including law, policing, foreign policy, intelligence, et al.”

    If Deputy Commissioner Miller’s law enforcement obligations conflicted with covering for Israeli perfidy, what would he do, given his marital ties? . . .

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  58. I don’t know anything about “dancing Israelis,” but I clearly remember seeing footage of dancing, celebrating Muslims on my TV screen early during the 9/11 attacks — footage which was quickly pulled and which I’ve never seen since.

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  59. “Further, it must be acknowledged that many of the key investigators on the 9/11 Commission had either strong, personal ties to the State of Israel, or long and close affiliations with Israel’s lobby inside the United States. This inevitable bias is also applicable to many of America’s top news and entertainment executives. Thus, the thundering silence from NY to Hollywood over 911′s lingering ‘mysteries.’”

    I’d say this is irrefutable.

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  60. That is so funny. The spelling correction Hasbara moron brigade is on the march. It is thermite not termite. But thermite works like a military brigade of steel eating termites, so I was not far off. I wonder who planted thermite or termite?

    Maybe it had something to do with the dual citizen owner of the twin towers, who picked up a nice and tidy couple of billions of dollars in insurance for the buildings he would have had to demolish at his own huge expense (due to steel fatigue), or with Israeli students who rented a part of the building and stacked it up with strange cardboard boxes? Or with … lots of other things which point towards Israel, not only the Dancing Shlomos.

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  61. More than fourteen years later it is perhaps past time to reveal what exactly the FBI knew and currently knows about both the scale and modus operandi of Israeli espionage in the United States.

    why Mr. G? It’s fourteen years, not a hundred and forty. Most all the players and criminals are still alive. Many are still entrenched in positions of power. I would think now more than ever we the people of the world should demand a real investigation.

    I don’t even think it’s too late for a proper criminal investigation into the assassination of JFK. There’s people still alive today that certainly know something.

    Did Israel have critical intelligence either in broad outline or possibly in specific detail about 9/11 and let it happen …?”

    at the very least. There’s no way Larry Silverstien didn’t know what was happening and was necessarily and obviously complicit. And he’s bestest buddies with Bibi. They talk on the phone weekly.

    if nothing is done to hold these people to account, and they’re able to not just get away with it all, but to profit massively (Silverstien made billions off this case of ‘Jewish lightning’ and Bibi got the USA dupes to fight his wars for him), then what’s to stop them from doing it again? Perhaps even bigger next time

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  62. Yes, there were some Muslims who danced but not in New York or anywhere in the US. What does this prove? That the US is not popular in the ME. Wow, what a discovery. You deserve a Nobel Peace Prize for the insight.

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  63. Oh Phil, I keep waiting for you to tell us what really happened in that “accidental” Afghan hospital bombing.

    This post is pathetic. U R circling the drain.

    , There were sporadic celebrations, mostly in the West Bank & Jerusalem, but I really don’t know of major outbursts. In Iran they lit candles for us. They were very sympathetic.

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  64. An aside:

    I am finished with Trump. My first reaction to him was that he was too thin skinned to be president. Then I wavered. I began to think that he really could get America on the right economic path.

    Now, beside being thin skinned, I think that he is mean spirited and that he is way too wrapped up in money. His attack on the man with a deformed arm and his demand that CNN give him $5,000,000 are both beyond the pale.

    His blanket attack on Muslims just cannot be. Fox-n-Krauthammer aside, the most powerful man on the planet cannot disparage 1,500,000,000 people. it would bring no end of trouble.

    Enough! He does not represent me.

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  65. In my country, the Netherlands, Muslims did celebrate the Twin Tower attacks. It was quickly put under the rug. I’m old enough to remember, though.

    So what’s your excuse to not remember the celebrations being done by the Muslims in your country? Too young? Early dementia?

    Here’s a reminder:
    https://youtu.be/pAR9T5ttXic?t=29s

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  66. Military termites, that’s rich. It’s par for the course with these truthers.

    Just like that “nano thermite” they keep on about but can’t produce any and label anyone in the demolition trade as in on the conspiracy who contradicts them.

    I’m sure in time they’ll migrate to the Jews spraying LME agents on the WTC girders.

    BTW thermite doesn’t eat through steel, it’s not a acid – it melts it. It’s too bad truthers are dolts when it comes to basics of metalworking.

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  67. Ha, ha, ha. The Hasbara brigade demands that you watch the spelling and especially that you stay away from a figurative language. They are so dumb that they only understand literal things – if it melts that is not eat-though. Well, maybe one day the Hasbara will invent something that eats through steel when Israel wants to prove their point. In the mean time, melt through will have the same effect as eat through.

    This military grade thermite used on WTC was identified based on the research by European laboratories and published in reputable scientific magazines. Or maybe Shlomos were using it to light up their cigarettes.

    What a bunch of aggressive morons you are.

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  68. Agree that there are serious questions that need to be answered vis possible prior knowledge of the 9/11 plot by Israeli intelligence and how far that knowledge may have penetrated. Unfortunately, the conversation always gets hijacked by fruitcakes advocating nonsense like the demolition theory or the ordered-by-Israel theory, who really do belong on the yellow sites. But little instances like the Dancing Israelis really do suggest that somebody close to the source knew and got excited enough to blab about it.

    If Mossad operatives were acting in a manner that indicated foreknowledge of the attacks, or disseminating such foreknowledge to someone who could repeat it on Odigo instant messaging, it speaks of poor discipline under the needs-to-know principle. The five Israelis killed in the WTC attack were apparently not privileged to such information. Maybe the “art students” recruited to spy on Muslims were a less professional, nuttier bunch than those who spy on the US government.

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    He wrote, “That was termite, military grade.” I think he meant “thermite”, not “termite”. I think it was just a misspelling.

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  70. It’s par for the course with these truthers.

    I like the way you say ‘truthers’ rod like it’s a bad thing

    but then, let’s examine the kind of mind that considers the quest for the truth as absurd, shall we?

    first what to call them.. perhaps ‘believer’ is suitable

    what the believers believe is that the BBC’s and other news outlets reporting on building seven plopping into its basement before it did was just a coincidence! It’s no different than the Isreali agents having their camera’s set up to “document” the first plane hitting the tower.

    serendipitous perhaps you nay say, but obviously nothing to worry about. And anyone who does is a crazy and likely dangerous whacko!

    really, there’s so many obvious, prima facia evidence that this whole thing was set up by men like Dov Zakheim and so many others that deliberating with these believers is pointless- unless to show them how blatantly asinine their defense of the official story actually is. So I’d just leave it at the advance reporting of the collapse of building seven, and say that there is unequivocally no way in this world or the next that those news sites made that call by accident that turned out to be a coincidence. To believe such a thing is to suspend all rational thought and logic and disregard video evidence of the glaringly obvious.

    These believers are necessarily either monumentally stupid or calculatingly dishonest, and if the later, apologists for the worst betrayal I can think of in human history, since it has been Americans like the ones who were slaughtered on those planes and in those towers who have supported Israel with untold sacrifices of blood and treasure, only to have that gift returned by such an act of treachery and betrayal as to numb the very soul.

    I’m sorry. I have to sigh and consider the weight of all of this from time to time. It is quite a burden to come to realize the things people do to each other and why. It taxes me. Perhaps it is better off sticking one’s head in the sand..

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  71. Israelis are an ‘other’ with their own rational interests. These do not include flooding our nations with third worlders nor do they include us going to war in Afghanistan.

    I know it’s impossible for many retards to understand this, but I’ll try again, for the thousandth time: Israel is BFFs with diaspora Jewry, and diaspora Jewry is BFFs with Israel. Diaspora Jewry sees it as in their best interests to dilute and make polyglot European countries against the day their populations inevitably wake up to collective Jewish malfeasance, for the umpteenth time. Ergo, Israel is no babe in the woods when it comes to open borders. They’re complicit in, and benefit from, diaspora Jewry’s malfeasance. Which is why the phony “right wing” (actually Jewish Supremacist) in Israel says nothing about the open borders destroying the West.

    As for Afghanistan, yes, it benefits Israel for the US to be stomping all over the MENA, crushing Muslim regimes that refuse to knuckle under, just as America maintaining a strong military and an aggressive, adventuristic foreign policy benefits Israel. This is not rocket science.

    9/11 neither furthered their interests nor diminished them.

    Horseshit.

    TL;DR-ed the rest of your idiocy.

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  72. Jews are, in the aggregate, neither leftist, nor rightist, only faux leftist and faux rightist. Jews are simply Jewish Supremacist. These things mean no more to them than strategy and tactics mean anything to generals. In some theaters, you take a defensive posture. In others, an offensive one. Sometimes you use guerrilla tactics and non-conventional forces, sometimes you use conventional.

    Leftist and rightist are just tactics to Jews, each being used where most beneficial to the Tribe.

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    Dr. Niels Harrit is a retired associate professor of chemistry at the University of Copenhagen and one among an international team of scientists who published a paper in The Open Chemical Physics Journal on the discovery of nano-thermite in the dust from the World Trade Center collapses on 9/11.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irOj1QYjVvc

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  74. Tell us more of how even military grade termites could level a steel and concrete skyscraper.

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  75. For what it is worth.

    In May of 2001, by presidential order, Cheney was handed direct control of all wargame and drill operations. This meant he was solely in charge of the overlapping NORAD drills and wargames on the morning of 9/11, that prevented Standard Operating Procedure from being implemented, and any of the hijacked planes being intercepted.

    http://www.911myths.com/html/cheney_in_charge_of_norad.html

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  76. What’s the melting point of steel? What’s the maximum combustion temperature obtained in an atmosphere of 21% oxygen at 1 bar of pressure? Paul Craig Roberts calls it an “energy deficit”.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td7bvj9ddJw

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  77. The fact that the media (which is almost entirely Jewish-owned) castigates Trump for anti-Muslim comments while simultaneously pushing a Zionist line is no more dissonant than the fact that Jewish groups in Europe advocate increased Muslim immigration while simultaneously supporting Israel.

    To the extent that OBL was a CIA asset, and the fact that Afghanistan served other geopolitical interests (besides opening the door to wars for Israel’s benefit) is probably why Palestinians as such weren’t fingered for the crime (easier to blame a rich, connected Saudi who is never intended to be apprehended than an occupied people living in poverty).

    BTW it’s more accurate to say the buildings experienced free-fall *acceleration*, not speed. This free-fall acceleration indicates there was no upward resistance from the floors below (as Newton’s Laws would hold), hence the standard claim that “pancaking” successively weakened lower structures is bunk.

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  78. Steel melts at around 1500C and the maximum combustion temperature obtained in earth’s surface atmosphere is about 1300C. The Iron Age experts of 3200 years ago knew that steel wont melt in a normally ventilated fire. The fires in WTC2 exhibit evidence of a high temperature accelerant (HTA) fire. HTA fires are always arsons.

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  79. Not me, ask your Hasbara friends moron.

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  80. Thanks for posting the great video Colinjames. I started off at the 14 min mark to see the part about the dancing Israelis but after I watched that section, I ended up starting from the beginning and watched the whole thing. I thought it extremely well done. I liked that he went after the misinformation videos like that Loose Change garbage and all the other assorted con-men. I also liked that he used tons of evidence to support the video like his use of Sibel Edmonds, the courageous FBI whistleblower whom Mr. Giraldi has previously written about, whose story should be especially relevant and significant to people in lieu of all that is going on with Turkey nowadays. Thanks again and I’ll be suggesting that video to others because it’s hard to find docs that deal with such a serious matter in such a thorough way.

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  81. You had me laughing for a good 5 minutes. Hell, I’m STILL laughin. That was a good one. Set’em up and Jus’ Sayin’ll knock’em down! Thanks for brightening up my day :)

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  82. For those commentators who believe that Israeli’s had former knowlege of the attacks you are most likely right. Who else had former knowlege? Probably a full three quarters of New York’s taxi drivers.
    I remember reading about on taxi driver being detained because he gave a ride to a federal employee on sept 10 telling her of an immenent attack the next day. He was realeased after authorities realized that prior knowlege was common among taxi drivers.

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  83. The stack got bigger and more massive with each floor it crashed through. So it blew through the remaining floors faster and faster. The stack would accelerate even if every floor took the same amount of energy to tear loose.

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  84. A full load of jet fuel is a high temperature accelerant.

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  85. significant to people in lieu of all that is going on with Turkey nowadays

    Meant to say in light of

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  86. The top floors would have received resistance from the bottom floor, even if they crushed it, and hence decelerated, not fallen with free-fall rate of change, which is what was observed.

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  87. How dare you try to bring these cuckoo posters down to earth and down to reality! Idiot chile Obama blames everything on global warming while Giraldi’s groupies blame everything on the Jews. Those Jewish-Zionist mind rays are turned on 24-7, frying every Muslim and Christian brain on this planet. No Muslim or Christian has agency because there are always Zio-Jews pulling their strings.

    BTW My take is Mr Giraldi is only half serious here but decided to toss out some red meat to the anti-Zio base. All bloggers do this from time to time.

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  88. Termite can be defeated with Driver Army.
    “…soldier termites spring into action, slicing their smaller opponents in half with a snap of their powerful jaws.”
    http://theantroom.blogspot.com/2007/11/master-of-killer-ants-on-nova-next.html

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  89. Zionist mind rays

    http://www.tvfodder.com/heroes/archives/2008/10/07/sleestack2.jpg

    heh

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  90. Homo Giraldi still beating this dead horse.

    Guess what, this story is old news. Everybody has heard about it and it actually got decent airplay on Fox in the immediate aftermath of the attack. American’s know and THEY DON’T CARE.

    They don’t care about some dancing Israeli idiots on 9-11, they don’t care that we have expelled hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from the Land of Israel and they don’t care about the the Arabs we kill by the thousands whenever war breaks out. It’s not they they don’t know, they do. They just don’t care about the Palestinians, the Syrians, the Iranians or any Muslims for that matter, and nothing you say or do can ever change that.

    And even if you somehow got them to care, which you won’t, what of it? We’d still have over 80 nuclear warheads with the ability to assemble another 80 tomorrow if we so wanted. We have a larger technological and industrial base than the entire Arab-Islamic world combined. Soon the remnants of the Palestinians will be dead or expelled and then we will begin expanding into the rest of the Lands that were promised to us. And the world will just yawn and go back to watching soccer. You, of course, will still be babbling in the Unz comment sections, likewise doing nothing to stop us.

    So go out an adopt an Arab baby. They are an endangered species who won’t be around much longer. Enjoy the time you have remaining with them.

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  92. The degree of coordination and subsequent radio silence, required to carry out a conspiracy of this magnitude, is beyond human abilities. This would be the equivalent of many hundreds of Reichstag Fires. There may have been some foreknowledge on the part of various agencies, if only because the WTC had already been a target before, and the Phillipines had informed the Americans that according to their interrogations, Arab terrorists were considering using airplanes as guided missiles to bring down buildings.

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  93. Prior knowledge and failure to tell the police does not make a person an accessory to the crime at common law. The ethics/morality is obviously arguable depending on your moral premises/assumptions.

    On the facts: setting up a movie camera might take very little time at all. It is only if it was set up facing the twin towers before the first tower was hit that the timing would be significant.

    The high fiving might be more than you would expect of callous movie makers who have just scored some saleable footage but it isn’t what you’d expect of professionals in the intelligence business or even sidekicks who were at a level to have been let in on the great conspiracy or knowledge of others’ conspiracy.

    Clearly noisy demonstrative filming of the event in a public place was no part of any Mossad plan or one it was monitoring. OK they may have been let down by amateurs which led to quick smart departure of their handlers. Even so, it is hard to believe that there was any precise knowledge by Mossad, or the Israeli government, of what was being planned, let alone any anticipation that some 3000 people were going to be killed, that the twin towers would collapse after being struck high up by aircraft or that large numbers of well connected Jews in financial firms were going to die because of actions that Israel could have prevented.

    That’s not to say that Mossad didn’t know a lot more than the FBI and didn’t anticipate with satisfaction a terrorist outrage by ME Muslims which would further Israel’s interest in moving the US to military action. But that doesn’t even get you all the way to PG’s suspicions.

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  94. Brilliant article.

    First time since 911 we can read the full version of this affair.

    Thank you gain.

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  95. Typical Murican thinkin’

    “I saws it on TV, therefore it has to be true!”

    Product of the no tard left behind school system, oy vey

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  96. Sounds like high treason. And here is an illustrious protege of Cheney, Mrs. Nuland-Kagan: http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2014/03/cheney-appointee-victoria-nulands-neocon-ukrainian-adventures

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  97. Dear Mr Green,

    In your statement you suggest that the official 9-11 commission report fails to include any investigation of the collapse of building number 7.

    Is that true?

    If it is, has anyone asked the commission why building number 7 was not investigated and what its rationale was for excluding it ?

    It is , after all , a pretty big building to miss.

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  98. The Zio mind is a wondrously twisted thing.

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  99. Oddly, the Commission that was created to officially investigate the details of 9/11 did not examine Building 7′s unique collapse. Curious, that.

    Nothing odd about it, at all. The 9/11 Commission was not tasked to officially investigate the details of any of the three towers that collapsed that day, 1 WTC, 2 WTC, 7 WTC. That investigation was left to NIST, National Institute of Standards and Technology, which indeed investigated the details of the collapse of all three buildings, including 7 WTC.

    btw – when I did a search of 7 WTC in the official 9/11 Commission Report, it came back with five hits.

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  100. I have seen an account which seemed plausible. It was all about the critical temperature being reached in the steel frame and that took most of the day in the absence of great quantities of aviation fuel carried into the heart of the building.

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  101. Mr Oz,

    Let me take your argument about ” prior knowledge” not functioning as an” accessory “to the crime, and place it in a future circumstance to see if it has merit.

    Lets assume a terrorist attack is planned on the “freedom tower” exactly two months from now…If an individual or group of individuals have knowledge of the impending attack but choose not to inform the FBI, you are seriously trying to tell me they are NOT functioning” accessories” by aiding and abetting the enemy “to allow” the attack to take place. ?

    Are you “actually” saying that , Mr Oz ?

    Are there any law enforcement, or counter terrorism experts out there who can set the record straight on this ?

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  102. Soon the remnants of the Palestinians will be dead or expelled and then we will begin expanding into the rest of the Lands that were promised to us. And the world will just yawn and go back to watching soccer. You, of course, will still be babbling in the Unz comment sections, likewise doing nothing to stop us.

    I commend you for speaking the truth, Greasy William. You are one of the few who does so.

    So GW has dropped the gauntlet. What should be the response? Do we continue babbling or do we march?

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  103. Long before Sept 11 2001 attacks—1996–Israel Firsters proposed to Bill Clinton–7 middle East countries need to be destroyed. Wake up fools.
    Any bets–Donald Trump will appoint Dick Cheney as Vice President in 2016

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  104. A year later, two Israelis were arrested at an odd hour in an empty moving truck outside a navy airbase in Washington state. Bomb dogs detected residue.
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/2002/05/13/police-seize-rental-truck-with-tnt-traces.html
    Sent home, nothing to see here.

    I have personally seen Americans dancing whenever they see American bombs destroying buildings in Arab nations. Is something wrong with them?

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  105. And NIST’s cover-up has been absolutely debunked here:
    http://www.shop.ae911truth.org/Letter-to-NISTs-Shyam-Sunder-from-Richard-Gage-AIA-ARTICLE-LTR-SUNDER.htm

    http://www.ae911truth.org/

    And do note that thermite and nano-thermite were found in the 9/11 debris-dust.

    http://www.shop.ae911truth.org/DVDs-and-CDs_c4.htm

    http://www.shop.ae911truth.org/Books-and-Articles_c3.htm

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  106. I have no idea what you are referring to, but there are a number of countries that from which Anthrax could have been obtained. Thermite is a much different kettle of fish, and the handling requirements of the stuff would get a casual user killed. Thermite grenades were something the Navy uses to destroy classified radio transmitters if a ship is to be abandoned to shallow waters. You simply pull the pin, allow the spoon to release and place it on the highest transmitter in the stack. It will burn through the transmitters and the hull of the ship as well. You can’t put it out either. Thermite as the agent for destruction of the two towers is completely implausible as it would have required a massive amount of the stuff to bring down one tower, much less two. That’s about as plausible as believing explosive charges were built into the structure as one loon ball thought.

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  107. For the twin towers that works. I’m satisfied that the fuel fires fed by the aircraft fuel tanks were enough to bring down the towers (I’m a Civil Engineer). Building 7 is a much different kettle of fish. I have seen no reason why that came down. It was not hit by the aircraft that hit the twin towers.

    Little has been said about Building 7, however. You may know something I don’t, but I haven’t heard there was a fire in that building.

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  108. Thermite will burn through steel. See my earlier response on the matter. To do what a Thermite Grenade will do to a steel hull, however, requires long exposure from something like a thermite grenade. It would require massive amounts of very hard to handle thermite to have brought those buildings down. The Jet A the aircraft carried as fuel would, however, do the job with the length of exposure we saw.

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  109. And I would add that the anthrax attacks were very a very important part of the over-all false-flag attack of 9/11. And as you correctly stated the military grade anthrax used to terrorize the general population and the Nano-thermite used to bring down all three high-rises in their own foot-prints at free-fall acceleration were both developed and perfected in US military laboratories. So, although numerous and varied details of the operation will never be known, it should be obvious to anyone of average intelligence who master-minded the entire affair and has since provided the necessary cover-up, including the official but transparently bogus 9/11 Investigation conducted by the US government.

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  110. That there were Israelis in this country that celebrated has been known for quite some time. There are also Mossad agents in this country, just we have agents in Israel. I firmly believe Mossad knew what was being planned and said nothing to us about it. Just as with the attack on the Liberty, the Israelis really aren’t our friends, although they have been dependent upon us for aid and military equipment.

    And, no, I don’t think our foreign policy is owned by the Israelis or the Israel lobby. It has been in our interest to support them. We get drawn into certain conflicts because of the incompetency of so much of the foreign policy establishment. We’ve seen this off and on throughout my adult life. Carter, Clinton, and Obama have been pretty egregious on this count. Bush I gave us the first Iraq because of an idiot in one of our embassies and Saddam thought we were his friend because of our support during the Iran-Iraq war.

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  111. The lawsuit mentioned was a interesting ruse; one of the many weapons in the Israeli lawfare arsenal. There was never any intention on the part of the plaintiffs to prosecute the lawsuit. The purpose was the publicity the filing of the suit garnered and the conclusions drawn by the untrained public ( No guilty party would ever file a suit against his accuser. The trial would only reinforce his guilt. The Israeli plaintiffs must therefore be innocent of any wrongdoing) . You see, the lawsuit was filed, but the papers were never served and the suit did not go to court. But for a three dollar certified mail fee and five minutes at the post office, the lawsuit evaporated.

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  112. You remind me of the frustrations counsel (or member of a committee of inquiry) suffer when confronted by a “non-responsive” witness. They, like you , refuse to talk about the same subject matter as their legally qualified interlocutors .

    You have effectually refused to engage with me by pretending – even putting them in quotes, though used eccentrically – that that I have “made an argument” about prior knowledge “not functioning as” an accessory to the crime. I find it difficult to know how to engage with someone who invokes the technical legal concept of an accessory (scil. before the fact) to a felony but hasn’t bothered to look it up for himself and uses nonsensical language about it.

    Really it is quite simple. Not disclosing knowledge of a crime someone is about to commit .might amount to a tort – a civil wrong – or even a breach of contract or a fiduciary duty but is not regarded by the common law as aiding and abetting, or inciting, so as to make the person an accessory to a felony.

    You may find someone with knowledge of some American state law or even a federal statute which redefines “accessory” – or you could try an internet search for such local variation of the common law – but I doubt that you will.

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  113. I think you might want to qualify your postulate of foreknowledge by the Israelis because you don’t sound like those cranks with little sense of probability who could imagine high level Israel government people standing back in silence if they had any idea if the magnitude of the damage and death toll that would result.

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  114. Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, replied, ”It’s very good.” Then he edited himself: ”Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.” He predicted that the attack would ”strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because we’ve experienced terror over so many decades, but the United States has now experienced a massive hemorrhaging of terror.”

    In an appearance late tonight, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon repeatedly placed Israel on the same ground as the United States, calling the assault an attack on ”our common values” and declaring, ”I believe together we can defeat these forces of evil.” He declared Wednesday a day of mourning.

    Uzi Landau, Israel’s minister for public security, said that the government had never imagined an assault of this size, let alone had its intelligence network gleaned any warning of its approach. He sounded astounded. ”We had a number of different scenarios for large terrorist attack,” he said in a telephone interview tonight. ”But this particular concerted offensive against the United States, targeting the World Trade buildings, at the same time hitting Washington — this we didn’t consider.”

    -James Bennet ‘A Day of Terror: The Israelis; Spilled Blood Is Seen as Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer’ New York Times 11 Sep 2001

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/12/us/day-terror-israelis-spilled-blood-seen-bond-that-draws-2-nations-closer.html

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  115. I’ve found the UK Daily Mail report that I had particularly in mind by Googling “how did the fire start in WTC7″. It shows that somehow fires started early and the collapse occurred at 5.12pm supporting the view that what was required was application of heat for a long time. I would be intrrested to know what you think.

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  116. Wow Mr Greasy,

    So the plan , take all their “living space”and exterminate.?

    Hmmmm

    It looks like you have “the final solution” for the Palestinian ” problem” just about all fleshed out.

    But if nobody “cares” , as you say, why wait for war as a pretext for ‘extermination” ?

    Why not just get the ball rolling right now?

    How many Palestinians do you plan to exterminate, Mr Greasy, ….the whole lot ?

    That’s quite a few….what is that…. six million, seven million Palestinians slated for extermination?

    That seems like an awful lot of dead bodies you will have to contend with Mr Greasy…a real logistical problem …No?

    Maybe you can do “mass graves” to cut down on the amount of living space used up by proper burials ?

    Or maybe “cremation”. Mr Greasy ?…did you think about that ?

    Industrial scale crematoriums might do the job quite well, don’t ya think?

    Working day and night.

    Six million Palestinians….Wow….those are going to be some big ovens….No ,Mr Greasy?

    Maybe you can use the steam from all that” cooking”…to power your desalinization plants and who knows….Maybe .Jodi Rudoren can do a smashing expose” for the New York Times on Israels outstanding contribution to green energy technology ….

    On top of all that “clean” water you’ve created…. you’ve cut down the entire Palestinian population’s “Carbon Foot Print” by 96 percent !

    Should be a hit so long as no one calls it “Soylent Green” technology….

    that might be construed as a little…… “unfair”.

    No , Mr Greasy?

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  117. … but I haven’t heard there was a fire in that building.

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/russias-civilizational-choice/#comment-1162911

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  118. I think its a slightly unfair inference. Giraldi is simply saying we can’t know more until critical intel is released and / or a more serious investigative effort is attempted. As such, I’m quite satisified with Mr. Giraldi at least attempting to shed light on this issue, however “coy” it might be perceived.

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  119. … the anthrax attacks were very a very important part of the over-all false-flag attack of 9/11.

    Here’s a comment I previously posted here at UR:

    Speaking of “Still a whodunit and nobody cares anymore,” whatever happened to the investigation into the Anthrax attacks?

    The letters containing anthrax that were sent to Senators Patrick Leahy and Tom Daschle, (both had been attempting to slow the passage of the USA PATRIOT Act), read:

    09-11-01
    YOU CAN NOT STOP US.
    WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX.
    YOU DIE NOW.
    ARE YOU AFRAID?
    DEATH TO AMERICA.
    DEATH TO ISRAEL.
    ALLAH IS GREAT.

    It’d be fascinating to get a glimpse of the Mossad’s “to do” list!

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  120. And, no, I don’t think our foreign policy is owned by the Israelis or the Israel lobby. It has been in our interest to support them.

    This contradicts the main thesis of M&W in The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy. Why don’t you provide us with a quick summary of where you think the two professors fell short?

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  121. The truth regarding 9/11 has no doubt been stated, but most people, including me, wouldn’t be able to identify it as such even if we heard it (and many of us may not have).

    The matter will never be settled, any more than the explosion of the Hindenburg (in 1937) or a thousand other such (incendiary, most of them) matters ever will be.

    Every explanation, including the correct one, is a conspiracy theory. Most truths, most errors, and most lies always are. You have a wide choice of what to believe, if you dare, or manage to, believe anything truly explanatory.

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  122. The WTC 7 ‘report’ was undertaken later, sort of like an ‘ok, so we can’t get away with ignoring that’ footnote … where it was decided a single column failed and that’s why the entire structure fell in its footprint.

    They could just as easily say the United States government believes in virgin birth [certainly true at the Pentagon and largely true in the halls of Congress] and then have NASA report the moon is made of green cheese and if you have mainstream media will ignore it, it’d work just as well.

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  124. “… knew what was being planned and said nothing to us about it..”

    There was nobody to listen. When the warnings were delivered, the W administration paid no attention. What else one could expect from the incompetent, sycophants, and psychopaths that make the core of the US government? The well-connectedness and money are no warranty for decency and competence. It is worth remembering that Bush the lesser was appointed by the conservative activist-judges.

    August 6, 2001: Bush Receives Briefing Titled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US”

    “The 9/11 Commission will later state that after the now famous “bin Laden Determined to Strike in US” memo is given to President Bush on August 6, 2001, “We have found no indication of any further discussion before September 11 among the president and his top advisers of the possibility of a threat of an al-Qaeda attack in the United States.” By the way, there’s a credible case that the president’s own negligence prior to 9/11 at least in part contributed to the disaster in the first place.… [I]n the summer of 2001, the government ignored repeated warnings by the CIA, ignored, and didn’t do anything to harden our border security, didn’t do anything to harden airport country, didn’t do anything to engage local law enforcement, didn’t do anything to round up INS and consular offices and say we have to shut this down, and didn’t warn the American people..”
    http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a080601ranchmemo#a080601ranchmemo
    http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB147/

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  125. Dear Mr Oz,

    If , as you keep insisting, that having “prior knowledge” of a pending terrorist attack and Not acting on it to stop it …is not aiding and abetting the enemy…. or acting as an accessory to the “crime,” ….. then why is it considered “material support for terrorism” under U.S. federal law ?

    UNITED STATES FEDERAL STATUTES ON TERRORISM

    8.U.S.C.1182

    “on material support for terrorism”

    “Section VI (BB) ” To any individual who the actor knows, or reasonably should know, has committed or has plans to commit a terrorist activity.”

    Mr Oz , If you are so intent on expressing your legal savvy on what does and does not constitute aiding “terrorists…why not pull up the statute on it ?

    And why are you so concerned in protecting individuals who may have had prior knowledge of the pending attacks on the world trade center and chose not to do everything in their power to stop this horrible tragedy by notifying the FBI or the police ?

    Isn’t that what you would do?

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  126. The Kike-n-vermin is virulent and must be defeated but it will be a long struggle or hopefully JC will make a second coming and send them all to hades.

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  127. So the official report states that the building collapsed due to “column failure “?

    Does it say why the column or columns failed….or just that (it)they did ?

    I have never read much on building number 7…so I don’t know.

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  128. Yes, I remember the words in that letter, too. Pretty amateur stuff which, of course, I didn’t believe for a second.

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  129. NuttyYahoo admits that (gasp!) Israeli forces are in Syria. What can I say? I’m simply underwhelmed.

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  130. “If Donald Trump wants to pillory fictional celebrating Muslims it is perhaps appropriate that he begin to take note of the actual celebrating Israelis who were caught in the act on 9/11.”

    You’ll spot flying unicorns long before you’ll hear Trump say any such thing. He’s an Israel Firster all the way. He’s never made any bones about it.

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  131. I am in possession of a smoking gun for the 9/11 attacks. The entire Twin Towers event is disclosed at https://sites.google.com/site/doculeaks/executive-docs. The “letters” should be read first, and then the “’97 diagrams” and then everything else. A set of codes hidden within a work of scholarship published in 1997 in Lanham, Maryland, shows a clear blueprint for the World Trade Center demolitions. This material was sent out to many beginning in 2004. The question is, why is no newspaper responding to the evidence?

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  132. PG, true to form, Bill O’Reilly had a segment on last night dealing with Trump’s assertion that there were thousands of Muslims in NJ celebrating the fall of the Twin Towers on 9/11, and guess what? No mention at all about the “dancing Israelis.” BTW O’Reilly’s guest tonight will be Donald Trump himself.

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  133. Here’s what the architects have to say:

    http://www.ae911truth.org/

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  134. That video is already removed. I guess some are fast to hide some inconvienent truth.

    These articles mentionned then Trump is right on some points. http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2015/12/01/accountability/news-media/muslims-did-celebrate-9-11/
    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/11/30/did-new-york-post-scrub-2001-story-because-it-supported-donald-trumps-claim/

    Thank goodness, the Internet archive had saved some articles then the NY Post deleted. https://web.archive.org/web/20010915001916/http://nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/32549.htm

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  135. Thanks.

    I will take a look.

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  136. Indeed I wondered why he made the distinction given that Israeli supporting money is obviously, like other lobby groups’ money on more mundane matters, very important to individual Congressmen and even Senators. But I suppose he might say that the White House and State Department, who are the principal makeers of policy, are not bought (and Cheney and Rumsfeld didn’t need to be).

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  137. Yes, it should have been treated as a probable slip of the kind or one of the kinds of which everyone is capable rather than a reflection of his command of English or plain ignorance. But why then does he seem to claim at #67 that he was consciously using the word “termite” figuratively? That’s kindergarten level excuse making.

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  138. I hope it does as well for you as the Da Vinci Code did for Dan Brown.

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  140. Would you please give a link to the video taken by the Israeli high-fivers which shows that they recorded the first plane hitting the tower? As the timing is indeed of great importance so is your evidence of the timing.

    As to the alleged BBC anticipation of the collapse of WTC7 surely the most unlikely thing in any scenario would be that the BBC should be given advance notice by plotters who weren’t such raving nutters as to be unable to find their way even to this Comment column. Compared with that an error arising from someone being heard in the the ear piece of a stressed reporter “hang in there: you can add WTC7 coming down too before anyone else breaks it” or any one of a dozen variations is just an everyday kind of error in the experience of journalists and TV producers as I can say from proximity to the most telling experience.

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  141. But I suppose he might say that the White House and State Department… are not bought

    Here’s a couple of exchanges I had with Sam Shama:

    geokat62: Further to my previous comment, as was made abundantly clear during Ron Paul’s 2012 presidential campaign, there is little chance the gatekeepers would permit a strong candidate to become either party’s presidential candidate, let alone POTUS.

    SS: … knowing fully well that all it takes is one determined POTUS to say NO firmly. I really wish that would happen.

    geokat62: As long as presidential election campaigns cost over $1B and the Lobby underwrites the bulk of those costs, there is little chance a POTUS will just say NO, firmly or otherwise.

    Surprised someone with a +7σ IQ wouldn’t know this, Sam. You wouldn’t be trying to play us dumb goy for fools, again, would you? It’s probably something that is difficult for you to resist… but really, you need to try harder.

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  142. Would you please give a link to the video taken by the Israeli high-fivers which shows that they recorded the first plane hitting the tower? As the timing is indeed of great importance so is your evidence of the timing.

    Are you implicitly calling into question the veracity of the testimony of the eyewitness at the scene?

    Here’s how ABC news reported the story:

    Maria, who asked us not to use her last name, had a view of the World Trade Center from her New Jersey apartment building. She remembers a neighbor calling her shortly after the first plane hit the towers.

    She grabbed her binoculars and watched the destruction unfolding in lower Manhattan. But as she watched the disaster, something else caught her eye.

    Maria says she saw three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. “They seemed to be taking a movie,” Maria said.

    The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men’s faces. “They were like happy, you know … They didn’t look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange,” she said.

    She found the behavior so suspicious that she wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police. Before long, the FBI was also on the scene, and a statewide bulletin was issued on the van.

    http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885

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  143. Thank you very much for this information.

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  144. The US government’s official explanation of 9/11 is, by far, the most ridiculous conspiracy theory of them all. With the possible exception of the “nuclear bomb” trolls and the “hologram” trolls. However, these two groups are obviously working as hasbara trolls and being paid by Israel to clutter up the comment section of serious 9/11 Truth web sites with bizarre comments for the purpose of encouraging casual readers to dismiss all doubters of the government’s version as tin-hat dig-bats.

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  145. Trump is indeed “an Israel Firster all the way,” and that’s why I dislike him.

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  146. The NASA’s explanation of why Building 7 collapsed is that a single massive steel column (column 7 I believe) failed due to being heated by common office fires fueled by office furniture that would have consisted of desks, filing cabinets, carpet, note-pads, pens and pencils, telephones, and perhaps cubicle partitions made of metal frames covered with a thin, sound-absorbing material. A theory that is so ridiculous until it’s beyond laughable.

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  147. If he had the ability to pull off some thing like 9/11 Bin Laden would have been ruling the world.Only the Israelis/Jews have the intellectual and other resources and the motivation to carry this operation.that is the empirical rality

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  148. You have several facts wrong. I have to go to sleep so I am not going to type up what all the incorrect facts are, but here is one: You said that they were held in the Bergen County Jail? They actually were split into two groups, one group held in Passaic County Jail and another group in, I believe, Hudson County Correctional Facility. Then they were all transfered to the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, NY.

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  149. Hollow aluminum tubes (commercial airliners), jet fuel induced hydrocarbon based office fires, thermate or thermite – even military grade – do not possess the kinetic energy to disintegrate most of the concrete and steel components of the Twin Towers and turn them into fine powder. And no, conventional explosives do not have the power to generate underground fires which burn for months and heat orders of magnitude greater than the surface of the sun, or fires which burned for months after the Twin Towers “collapsed”. Simply put, the Towers were in all likelihood destroyed by small nuclear weapons detonated at the basement and sub basement levels.

    The “Dancing Israelis” were most likely low level Israeli assets whose task was to plant evidence implicating the “Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine” or a similar scapegoat organization, i.e., plant phony passports, box cutters, etc.

    The official tale of the commercial airliners taking down the Twin Towers is a ludicrous fantasy crafted for very low information infotainment consumers.

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  150. Originally, Donald Trump was scheduled to appear on the O’Reilly Factor last night, but he got usurped by the breaking story of the mass shootings in San Bernadino. There was no word about a rescheduling of Trump’s appearance, or, if there was, I missed it.

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  151. Wow, I knew termites were bad, but, wow! The military genetic engineers deserves cudos for developing metal munching termites! Those guys can do anything, not just anthrax.

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  153. Thanks Carroll,

    Something I recall might be of interest to you.

    perhaps 18 years ago I watched a one hour documentary on, I believe, the science channel.

    The documentary was on the art of building demolitions and it took the viewer on a journey through the various stages of preparation in the collapse of a large rectangular building in a downtown area.
    What always stood out in my mind, was the high level of expertise needed to insure the building collapsed on its own footprint. the importance of getting the”explosive” sequencing just right to guarantee the building did not “tip” to the right or left damaging any of the neighboring buildings.
    After weeks of careful preparation, I recall the anticipation of the chief engineer on the day of the demolition …. his worry that even though they did everything right, checked and rechecked the sequencing…there was still a chance the building might “tip” and damage a neighboring one.

    the demolition went off and was a success.The building collapsed completely within its own footprint..after which the entire demolition crew , including the chief engineer cheered in celebration.

    I was really impressed with the science of it….and how difficult it was to insure the building collapsed in , and down ,on itself.

    This was a large rectangular building, but it was not very tall…maybe twenty five stories or so.

    Given the fact that world trade centers were among the tallest buildings in the world,and given all I had learned from that program, it seems an uncanny miracle of nature that even” one “would collapse completely within its own footprint..and not” tip.”…..a true miracle….

    The fact that” both” did….is either proof of “divine providence”-the hand of god guiding them both perfectly straight down….or the hand of something else.

    It would be very interesting to hear that chief engineer ( given all the preparations he had made to insure the outcome on the building in the program), to discuss the probability of such an outcome occurring naturally on two of the tallest buildings in the world.

    If the collapse of the world trade centers were indeed demolitions, and building number seven’s structural column would indeed “never” melt from the heat of an internal office fire…what sort of sequencing might explain the collapse of all three buildings ?

    One answer might be this…., If, in the planning of the collapse of the towers….there was a pre- awareness of the high probability, even in the best of executions, that one tower would tip…..and tip “onto” building number 7…..then having “number 7″ rigged to collapse too , shortly thereafter, makes all the sense in the world.

    The fact that twin tower number one (?) did “not” tip into building number seven, must have left “them” all scratching their heads as to…”what to do now”…..hence the decision to” just pull it”, anyway….later that afternoon….

    That would explain both number 7′s collapse” and” the BBC newscasters, accidental pre-announcement of it , while it was still standing.

    The irony that even the ” anticipatory tip” of tower number one… into building number 7, “not” occurring as planned , seems apropos of mans capacity to” flub” and perhaps too…..’Providence’s”hand in exposing it .

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  154. I have a machine in my basement that is specifically designed to burn jet fuel to produce the maximum possible heat.
    I have owned it for 18 years. It has yet to melt.

    You obviously blinked, and continue to do so, when the fireballs of exploding jet fuel occurred when the planes hit the buildings.

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