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Much has been written recently about what passes for American “conservatism” and its relationship to the events of the past presidential campaign and the presidency of Donald Trump. The Spring 2017 issue of the “conservative review,” Modern Age, arrived in my mail box recently, and the issue is titled, “Conservatism in the Year of Trump.” The writers examine the present state of movement conservatism and the prospects for the movement during the Trump presidency.

A word of information for those who don’t know that quarterly: it was founded back in the late 1950s by Dr. Russell Kirk, who was one of the intellectual founders of the so-called “Conservative Movement” that developed in the 1950s. I knew Dr. Kirk as a friend from 1967 until his death in 1994; and I served as his assistant during 1970-1971, in between grad schools. I consider him a mentor.

Kirk was, by general estimation, a “traditionalist,” and his conservatism, most clearly summarized at the beginning of his seminal volume, The Conservative Mind (1953), and then in more detail in A Program for Conservatives (1954), offered a largely philosophical, even literary, vision of Anglo-American conservatism. It was a vision that incorporated the ideas of the Founders like John Adams, of Southerners like John Randolph and John C. Calhoun, of antebellum Northern Democrats (and Catholics), like Orestes Brownson, and, in the twentieth century, of figures like Senator Robert Taft and the Southern Agrarians. The conservatism that Kirk described was anti-globalist, anti-imperialist, and anti-egalitarian; it was rooted in families and in historic and regional communities where hierarchy, religious faith, and tradition were deeply embedded and respected.

In early issues of Modern Age (I began my subscription while in high school in the 1960s!), the journal featured a whole number dedicated to and in defense of the traditional South, and it did not shy away from critiques of “imperial America,” dissenting from the mania for “civil rights,” and skewering the demonstrably false premise that the United States (in particular, using the Declaration of Independence) was founded on the idea of across-the-board equality. Indeed, University of Dallas Professor Mel Bradford authored a seminal study, “The Heresy of Equality,” in the Winter 1976 issue of Modern Age, which formed part of a long-running debate with Leo Strauss advocate Dr. Harry Jaffa (Claremont College) about the nature of the American Founding.

That “older Conservatism” or “traditional Conservatism”—the conservatism that intellects like Kirk, Robert Nisbet, Bradford, and others exposited and wrote about, and, in many ways, exemplified—that older conservatism has now been displaced and, essentially, exiled by “Neoconservatives.”

This process of displacement and sometimes brutal expulsion of the older traditional Right from the “movement” has witnessed, concomitantly, the almost total triumph of Neocon ideas that are antithetical to the vision of a Kirk or even of a William F. Buckley of the older 1960s National Review. Positions that were once considered mainstream on the Right back then, are now excommunicated and condemned by so-called “conservative” spokesmen and pundits in their pulpits on Fox News, at The Weekly Standard, National Review, Wall Street Journal, and at various “conservative” think tanks as “racist,” “bigoted,” “homophobic,” “anti-semitic,” and “reactionary.” Neocon views on such issues as “open border” immigration, same sex marriage, the homosexual lifestyle, across-the-board equality (and thus approval of “moderate” feminism), the almost frenzied imposition of “liberal democracy” on every God-forsaken desert oasis in the world, universal free trade (despite its effects on native industry and American workers), and the expansion of “civil rights,” differ only in degree from those of their supposed opponents on the far left.

As I leafed through the current issue of Modern Age, this newer template was in evidence. “Conservatism in the Year of Trump” offers essays on how “Conservatism, Inc.” might approach and deal with President Trump, who is caricatured by some of the writers as a populist demagogue and an uncouth barbarian. The most notable example of this comes in the essay on fusionism by Samuel Goldman who accuses President Trump of a kind of “cesarism.” (p.74) Yet, even among these academic writers, there is an admission that something very dramatic and serious has taken place, not only affecting the “movement,” but also in the nation at large among millions of American citizens who have been “alienated” by the fierce attacks and social dislocations of modern mass culture (Yuval Levin).

The most interesting contribution comes from author Patrick Deneen, whose essay, “The Ghost of Conservatism” (pp. 23-32), is a requiem for a movement that he pronounces to be dead, and that, in fact, he maintains was more or less stillborn from the beginning…even though its authors did not recognize that fact. Deneen traces the permutations of the “movement,” rightfully documenting the “three legged” strategy of William F. Buckley, originally attempting to mold together Kirkian social conservatism/traditionalism (Southern conservatives, traditional Catholics and Evangelicals, Old Rightists), libertarianism (those concentrating on economic question), and fierce anticommunism, into something coherent. He also recounts the various purges—expelling John Birchers, eventually showing the door to Southerners, and exiling traditionalist Catholics, including Buckley’s brother-in-law, L. Brent Bozell, who charged that the conservatism Buckley helped cobble together basically only served to conserve American liberalism.

The latest example of this was the virulent excommunication by National Review [NR] of Donald Trump during the 2016 campaign and the various NeverTrump attacks by “movement” voices at The Weekly Standard and The Wall Street Journal.

Although not specifically mentioned by Deneen, two events altered forever the fragile, older conservative movement: the fall of Communism and the Soviet Union, and the sometimes brutal take-over of conservatism’s power structures by those Neocon emigrants from the Marxist Left. As the Neocons gained near complete dominance in the 1990s and the permutations continued, the “movement” lost the connections it had to “middle America,” to those old “Reagan Democrats” that had initially been attracted to Ronald Reagan, and to those that Samuel Francis called “Middle American Radicals.” The “movement” became mostly part of the Inside-the-Beltway Establishment, a kind of “conservative wing” of the Deep State. NR writer, Kevin Williamson, even heaped scorn on Trump-voting Middle Americans, the conservative heartland traditionalists, who were still God-fearing and who struggled to make ends meet in the face of the decomposing effects of anti-human mass culture. If they wanted “real opportunity,” he crowed, then “they need a U-Haul” and to leave that wretched fly-over country between the sophisticates in New York and San Francisco! (p. 31)

Deneen is correct that it was Donald Trump who (re)connected with those folks, the “deplorables,” and in so doing he handily demolished sixteen establishment conservative candidates.

It is increasingly apparent that a “new dogmatism” rules our language, circumscribes what we are permitted to say, and defines what is politically-correct (and incorrect). Both in our politics and in our culture there are mostly unwritten but still iron clad rules that regulate speech and, eventually, thought. Unlike the traditional conservative Russell Kirk, or the “neo-Confederate” Southerner Mel Bradford, or the brilliant Rightist Paul Gottfried—men who have understood that there could be no real conservatism, no real preservation of our constitutional republic, no real moral culture, without challenging and reversing the Progressivist narrative and its very mode of presentation—the Inside-the-Beltway “conservative movement,” ruled by Neocon elites and their journals and think tanks, fully accept the linguistic straight jacket of the Left and in many ways solemnize and confirm it in their everyday expositions and actions. That praxis is directly related to their philosophical origin on the Marxist and Trotskyite Left, and their carry-over of not just a Leftist vocabulary on such subjects as “rights” and “isms,” but in how they end up in far too many cases, paralleling the thought of those further on the Left.

The results are, to put it mildly, disastrous for anyone desirous of a real restoration, to “make America great again.” What does my house painter neighbor who only works part-time now due to undercutting by illegal labor, who is under water with his mortgage, who attends church every Sunday, who tries desperately to keep his family together against the onslaught of mass decadent culture—what does he think of a “movement” with spokesmen like Kevin Williamson?

That is why President Trump’s pledge to “drain the swamps” in Washington and to reverse the policies not only of an Obama, but also, in many areas, of a George Bush and the Establishment Republicans in Congress, was interpreted by millions of frustrated Americans as a fresh breath of air, a sign of hope in what appeared an intractable and nearly hopeless national situation.

And that is why various writers on the traditional Right (e.g., Pat Buchanan, Paul Gottfried, Jack Kerwick, and others) have become justifiably concerned about some of the advisors and appointees who now surround the president, and, indeed, some of the actions—most notably in foreign policy—the administration has taken.

Certainly, there are executive orders President Trump has issued that could be applauded. Bluster, warnings, and cancellations on trade issues, on the Trans-Pacific Partnership and on NAFTA, may have their place in international politics and hard-nosed negotiation—but only as long as the original and essential positions are not abandoned.

And, thus, it is entirely proper to remind the administration of its enunciated agenda, for, as the late Phyllis Schlafly pointed out in her last book (published the day after she passed away),The Conservative Case For Trump, the issues that candidate Trump addressed in 2016 and the positions he advocated as his agenda—despite the howls of outrage from the “movement” and the “Never Trumpism” from the Neocons—were much closer to an older, original conservatism of Russell Kirk, Robert Nisbet, Samuel Francis, and even of a Barry Goldwater back in 1964, than to the globalist egalitarianism and liberal democracy hawked by the Neocon Beltway “Conservatism Inc.” elites now clambering to get back into the White House.

Despite his background and his manner, candidate Donald Trump represented, at times in spite of himself, a rejection of the Neocon narrative and an admittedly rough-hewn retrieval of an older, America First, conservatism, which on a different level, Russell Kirk also advanced. (Recall that Kirk was chairman of Pat Buchanan’s 1992 campaign in Michigan.)

That was the hope of millions in 2016, even if probably most, down deep, knew that it was a roll of the dice whether much of that agenda could be implemented in the Washington DC “swamp.” But it was a chance that had to be taken, that was required if there was to be any hope of reversing the continuing plunge of this nation, like the Gadarene Swine, into the defecated abyss of decline and decay, and the total triumph of the globalist Deep State.

But after the miracle of November 8, the harder task—and it was always going to be harder—was “winning the victory.” It was there, in that post-November glow, that the real battle for the agenda has been waged. And thus far, the results are a mixed bag, but with serious warning signs that, to quote Wellington at Waterloo, “the same old formations engage in the same old tactics.”

And that is not what most Trump voters voted for. The Deep State Establishment with its many enticements remains dominant, and only expelling it will suffice. And that is a monumental task.

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  1. jim jones says:

    The US seems to have a bizarre obsession with religion, if any politician mentioned religion here in the UK their career would be over:

  2. When need to go further and point out that when we are talking about Neocons, we are talking about American Jews who have been using our blood and treasure to secure Israel and disrupt Israel’s enemies.
    Yes not all Neocons are Jews but they are highly represented in Neoconservatism which accounts for their support of anti-conservative social issues.

    • Replies: @nsa
    , @IvyMike
  3. Well, that’s going to be a challenge, with Trump himself being uninterested in — or more like “oblivious to” — the project Mr. Cathey outlines. Trump is a bottomless well of ignorance and vulgarity. Wonder what he thinks about the southern agrarian tradition? A question that answers itself, that.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Paul Yarbles
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  4. The Democratic Party is waging a violent demographic race war against The Historic Native Born White American Working Class.

    The only viable response to this:Native Born White American Working Class Race Patriotism-NATIONALISM…This makes much more sense than Steve Sailer’s obsession with IQ test score psychometrics and truck-loads of PISA test score data….

    • Agree: Ace
  5. That was the hope of millions in 2016…

    That was the hope of millions in 1776 too but it was co-opted by the usual suspects even before the box was unwrapped. The anti-federalists were correct but they lost anyway…

  6. Avery says:
    @jim jones

    {…if any politician mentioned religion here in the UK their career would be over:}

    That is why you now have Londonistan, with a Muslim mayor telling you guys what pictures of women you can have in your ‘tube’.
    That is why Muslims ‘groomed’ (=child rape) 1,000s of your English girls – some as young as 11 – in your Rotherham, while your politicians and police did nothing so as not to appear ‘anti-Muslim’.

    Like Nature abhors vacuum, human soul also abhors a spiritual vacuum. If there is no Christianity, or Buddhism, or Hinduism, etc – it will be filled with Islam.

    Take your pick.

    We don’t want this to come to America, if we can help it.
    [Muslims in East London]

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  7. @jim jones

    Your spiritual vacuum will be filled by Islam.

    • Replies: @Art
  8. @jim jones

    Your people worship pedophile Rock Star Pete Townshend…this is your culture…and it’s the reason why English schoolgirls are being gang raped across England by Pakistani Muslim Males. This the “culture” that the athiest clever boys of The Oxford University Debating Society inflicted on merry Old England…I f…..g hate you and the rest of The English. They also inflicted Ottoman Turkey on Christian Russia. Now will you please go rot in f……g hell where you belong…with Christopher Hitchens…

    • Agree: Bill
    • Replies: @unpc downunder
  9. @Reactionary Utopian

    Trump is a bottomless well of ignorance and vulgarity.

    And what was in the well named Hillary Clinton? What do these attacks on Trump get us?

    We have to live in the real world and not expect perfection or something even approaching perfection. But unless there is a realistic plan for replacing Trump with a better person, what is the point of attacking Trump on his very nature?

  10. epnngg says:

    It seems Americans’ fixation on national politics and the electing a president every four years has diverted our attention away from the true threat to our liberties. The “dog and pony show” that electing a president has been for many years is an interesting phenomenon. We actually believe that electing a certain person to become “the leader of the free world” will really make a difference in the direction of our country. We believe that politics and politicians are the way of national salvation.

    As Gary North states: “Politics is not central to the life of a nation. It is mostly a sideshow. Family life, church life, business, entertainment, culture in general: these are the heart of every society…The country has been bedeviled for a century by people who believe that politics is fundamental to the life of a nation, but it has survived and prospered despite such nonsense.”

    The real threat to our liberties lies with the Civil Service-protected army of bureaucrats who regulate our lives. These are the people who post 80,000 pages of three-column fine print every year in the Federal Register. In the West, we are being regulated to death. Administrative law is the main threat to liberty today. Politics has very little to do with the administrative law. Only one thing can stop the relentless expansion of the administrative law, and that is bankruptcy. That time is coming.

  11. TheJester says:

    As Ed Margolis comments in his latest piece in the Unz Review,

    “Last week, Madame Le Pen declared that ‘finance’ is a primary enemy of France. Bankers are now lumped with Muslims as dire threats to the republic. Outgoing President Francois Hollande made the same warning last year, but no one paid him any attention.

    Coming from the hard-right Le Pen, it’s a bombshell. ‘Finance’ is really political code for Jews who dominate parts of France’s media, banking, and industry. France has Europe’s largest Jewish population, followed by Ukraine.

    Le Pen’s gun sights are trained squarely on the youthful Macron who may, it is rumored, have some Jewish background, and squarely on his former employer, the mighty French Rothschild banking empire.”

    It seems we have the same problem in the United States with a (((tribal))) faction who dominate parts of media, banking, and industry in the United States also holding our country ransom to their globalist agenda … albeit we call them Neocons, which is also a code word for Jews.

  12. @jim jones

    Christcuckianity is dying in the US due to churches being taken over by Church Ladies and SJWs. Conservatism is dead because they never conserved anything. The future belongs to the Alt-Right.

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
  13. A Liberal is simply a person who wants a better chance to get what a Conservative has already attained (and that includes the nouveau riche Liberals who aspire to be known as philanthropists conferring blessing from the heights of their foundations).

    Many commenters from the Alt Right point their finger at “feminism” as one of the gremlins undermining Civilization. This seems too general.

    The central issue of feminism is contained in the title of that classic found on every 70’s feminist’s bookshelf “Our Bodies, Ourselves”. What does this mean? In practice, it meant that a woman and only a woman would decide whom she could f*ck. No one else, not her father, mother, patriarchy, Church elder, boyfriend, husband or brother would determine whom she would admit to her inner sanctum. This is the core of her “feminism”.

    Now, what are the practical implications of this belief? It means that if she is involved in a steady relationship with a boyfriend and decides to fuch some acquaintance who piques her interest then her boyfriend has no say in the matter.

    It means that if she gets pregnant then it is her decision and hers alone as to whether to carry the embryo to term or to get an abortion. The man responsible for half the act and product does not have to be consulted but he does have to pay if she choses to have the baby while choosing not to marry him. “Deadbeat Dads” laws are there to ensure that the man is held responsible and today the State hounds a man by garnishing his wages or having the IRS levy fines on him. And if he can’t or won’t pay up, no matter, the State is there with a helping hand for her and her blessed babe. Even if a man were to agree to marry a woman with whom he had sex and sired an embryo, consent to marriage is in her hands.

    In every possible contingency she controls the outcome directly yet she is held blameless for her behavior. She is definitely “empowered” in this, the most one-sided arrangement conceivable. We live in a complete Matriarchy.

    I don’t know how we got here but do know that this state of affairs cannot sustain. All of the institutions that had governed courtship, sex, marriage and parenthood etc. are in disarray, having been discredited by the “Culture of Critique”. But putting women in charge of these decisions is wrong-headed because women’s vast ignorance about how things are made and get done renders them incapable of ruling. They know more than children do but don’t know anywhere near as much as grown men do. They know so little that they are not even aware that they delude themselves in believing that their giving in to their impulses of the moment is equivalent to a cultural solution to the issues of family formation and propagating civilization.

    • Replies: @Alden
  14. Tiny Duck says:

    Face it privileged white males


    The world does not want or need you

    Black people are the future

    Muslims are the future

    Asians are the future

    How does it feel? Knowing your daughters will bear Children of Color?

  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “If there is no Christianity, or Buddhism, or Hinduism, etc – it will be filled with Islam.”

    It will be, eventually.

    With regards to the white race, it does seem impossible that they will ever accept the Tawhid, doesn’t it? Your sense of superiority precludes reversion to monotheism. You need to put a white man on a pedestal. Ok, perhaps in a few millennia.

    For the supremacists of the present day, you guys are out of luck, for God has promised that hell has plenty of space for all of you.

    Seriously, it is so bizarrely amazing how billions, who consider themselves theists, choose to prostrate before man, woman, animal and man-animal like beings.

    They think its anathema for someone to be worshipping a Being, who is so unimaginably powerful and mighty, actually infinitely so, that it makes no sense that He can be anything but One, and certainly not someone man can identify with.

    He is God, One, Infinite, Unique. How is that difficult to comprehend?

    Men begetting children, some with heads of elephants and monkeys, goddesses with demonic looks… these are attributes of god?

    No offence, but what is fucking wrong with you people. 🙂

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Alden
  16. nsa says:
    @Charles Vok

    Yup, another learned article by some senile genteel twit filled with evasions, circumlocutions, euphemisms. Just finger the rascals………..the vile Jooies are using Der Swampster like a $20 truck stop whore. Under 2% of the population, over 50% of the cabinet. Swampster’s first overseas venture will be to visit his sponsors in……..guess where?

  17. @epnngg

    Best comment in this thread!!!

    Two White…one non-White…occupying and competing for the exact same LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE=VIOLENT RACE WAR…with great international c0nsequences…I personally would like to see China nuked off the map for exporting its population….

    Trump is an enthusiast for importing Chinese Legal Immigrants into the US…so they can enthusiastically vote his White Male voting bloc…into a violently persecuted racial minority within the borders of America….And while this is going on…Jared Taylor…Richard Spencer….and Steve Sailer want to have eternal discussions about IQ test score psychometrics…and PISA test scores…I despise all three of the aforementioned….

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  18. Weaver says:
    @jim jones

    Jim Jones,

    respectfully, it is the UK which is bizarre on this matter.

  19. Agent76 says:

    Feb 3, 2017 How Trump Filled The Swamp

    With promises to “drain the swamp!” still ringing in our ears, we have watched Trump appoint nothing but Goldman banksters, Soros stooges, neocon war hawks and police state zealots to head his cabinet.

  20. In W European eyes the USA does not have political parties.
    A USA correspondent long ago explained the mystery of the difference between democrats and conservatives: conservatives is old money, democrats new.
    Yet I do see a difference, democrats want war, conservatives are more prudent about war.
    So I was quite happy that Hillary was defeated, who I saw, and see, capable of fighting a nuclear war against Russia, far from her home, but destroying ours.
    I had hoped that Trump would end USA militarism, what since Roosevelt has been the great evil of this world.
    Alas I fear that Deep State still is pursuing its goals, the goals Hillary was expected to attain.
    If Trump really wants to end USA militarism, or that Deep State is more powerful than an elected president, for the present it is wait and see.

    • Replies: @Bill
  21. @War for Blair Mountain

    Nothing breathing space, control of oil, gas, mineral resources.
    The USA consumes some 40% of those resources on this planet, with some 5% of the world population.

    • Replies: @Alden
  22. @Tiny Duck

    We have always been a minority, particularly those blond/blue whites who are one of the rarest types on Earth. And like any minority we are and have been persecuted by those in the majority, the brown/brown/yellows and black/brown/browns, i.e. you.

    In spite of this headwind–or perhaps because of it–we have prevailed and will do so in the future. Remember, we don’t need you but you need us. You need our Juju or you will degrade into the cesspit you have always made of your civilizations. Short life expectancies, slavery, authoritarian rule, cannibalism, torture, superstition and intolerance characterize your nest.

    We will regroup, isolate ourselves and create another social Utopia with the world’s highest standard of living and once again your type will descend upon us and demand that we share our magnificent creation with you. It’s a cycle. This is neither the first nor the last time you will try to parasitize our greatness. It’s all too predictable. There will always be a civilized Pericles/Parthenon and there will always be a resentiment-motivated Gollum/Tiny Duck. They engender one another.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  23. sonbeams says:

    The Trump campaign was cleverly crafted to appeal to the disenfranchised “deplorables” but with a clear message to the rulers that he was a big fan of Israel. Of course this was also alluring to the deluded evangelical Christians who have substituted the Jewish State for Jesus Christ as the object of their most devoted veneration.

    Jesus said: “I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not receive me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him. How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God?” (John 5:43-44)

    Amongst evangelicals who believe the dispensationalist eschatology, this is usually taken to refer to the antichrist who will come in the last days. Does Donald Trump come in his own name? He certainly likes to brand everything with the Trump logo and like Obama before him he acquired a devoted following who saw him as a kind of messianic saviour. He also betrays those who follow him and both covertly and overtly displays all the works of the flesh described in scripture. This is why he appeals to those whose minds are fleshly and to those of a religious bent whose beliefs are carnal.

    “Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19-20)

    • Replies: @Alden
  24. @george strong

    No sh*t. And what about all the Ziolatry that goes on in these modern ‘Christian’ churches? Makes me wanna hurl!

  25. MBlanc46 says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    But to create that, one must rebut the egalitarian arguments of our opponents.

  26. Bill says:
    @jilles dykstra

    A USA correspondent long ago explained the mystery of the difference between democrats and conservatives: conservatives is old money, democrats new.

    That’s not it at all. The difference is in the industry they represent. The Republicans represent the state: the energy, defense, and what’s left of the manufacturing industries. The Democrats represent the church: education, entertainment, social work, and Sillycon Valley (now that the valley is no long about manufacturing).

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  27. @MBlanc46

    Bullshit you nitwit…Europeans migrated to North America ,conquered it , and colonized it for their geneline. They didn’t have endless policy wonk debates about IQ test scores with the Chinese in China and Hindus in India. And they went and past the 1882 Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act….What a monumental nitwit you are….

  28. @Paul Yarbles

    And what was in the well named Hillary Clinton? What do these attacks on Trump get us?

    We have to live in the real world and not expect perfection or something even approaching perfection. But unless there is a realistic plan for replacing Trump with a better person, what is the point of attacking Trump on his very nature?

    Trump is bad. Hillary was (and is) even worse. The truth is always worth telling. No further “point” is required.

    • Replies: @Paul Yarbles
    , @Alden
  29. Jake says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    It ain’t just Democrats/Liberals waging that war. NeoCons are waging the same war.

    Of course, if they succeed, their heirs lose a bit farther down the line. Anybody who thinks that a nation run by Jews and a handful of leftover Elite WASPs that is filled with blacks and Mohammedans is going to last as a world leader is simply insane. That country will flow with blood of civil wars within civil wars.

    Diversity could have been America’s great strength, if the country’s diversity had remained at least close to 90% white and Christian. More Eastern Orthodox, for example, and fewer Liberal Mainline Protestant WASPs would have been great for the country. The country even could have been aided by a few million mestizo Hispanics, considering the Christian European cultural basis.

    But the flood of non-whites, increasing numbers of them non-Christian, many of them anti-Christ to the core – that now may be such a blow that the nation is already dead man walking. Like the man who fells 90% healthy and assumes he will get back to 100%, but is in fact already being consumed by a deadly cancer.

  30. TheJester says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Tiny Duck, no worry. It will be a very short future … should any of us survive the “die-offs” that have historically characterized the racial and cultural social orders that you reference.

    Recall that it was Western Civilization that gave the rest of humanity the organizational and technological tools required to exceed what would have otherwise been their natural, Malthusian limits. Without us, “Malthus” will very quickly rear his ugly head.

    Again, should any of us survive, we pick up the pieces.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  31. @Bill

    You write more or less that republicans represent old industries, and democrats new, so the distinction old money new money points to the same.
    The : after church puzzles me, cannot see entertainment as part of the church.

    • Replies: @Bill
  32. @TheJester

    Western ‘civilisation’ created the Malthusian problem, the good old heathen peoples were quite able to control the population growth.
    Judaic living rules are destined to maximise population growth, the religions derived from judaism more or less followed these rules.
    Even today the pope prohibits birth control.

  33. @Reactionary Utopian

    So your point is to tell the truth. Fair enough. To give you my point, let me tell a parable.

    There once was a man who wanted to hammer some nails. He went to his toolbox and it was empty except for an old hammer with a splintery handle and a wobbly head. In great anger at his bad luck he cursed his hammer, throwing it against a wall again and again until it was completely destroyed.

    After this outburst he reflected on his predicament. Perhaps with some patience he could have fixed the hammer enough to hammer his nails. Or even if he couldn’t do that, he could probably have used it to hammer in smaller nails sometime in the future. But now it was too late. He would never know if that hammer was useful in anyway. What he did know was that he now had nothing with which to hammer nails.

    • Replies: @Reactionary Utopian
  34. @Paul Yarbles

    I have not thrown Trump against any walls, destroying him. I simply told a truth about him (as I see it). In your parable, I would simply have said of my crappy hammer that it’s a crappy hammer.

    To invoke a different “parable,” no emperor ever got any more clothed because everyone in the crowd was too politically loyal to say that he was naked. And sorry, but Trump’s a real jaybird.

    • Replies: @Paul Yarbles
  35. Art says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Your spiritual vacuum will be filled by Islam.

    That is a powerful statement with a profound truth to it. It says, the worse things are, the more we turn back to old notions of god. It says, that human culture is regressing.

    For most of human time, the vagaries of life and death were ever present. Random deadly accidents, disease, starvation, weather, lethal coercion, and war were a moment away.

    The human mind cannot function with permanent anxiety. Primordial people turned to the notion of gods as the cause of these events. People relieved their anxiety by giving gods the responsibility for good and evil. “God did it.”

    With the advent of Christian Western philosophy and science, we have come to realize that we are capable of controlling many of the bad things and events that happen to us. We have come to rely on ourselves, not god.

    The exceptions to this evolution in thinking, are Old Testament Christianity and the Muslim religion. Both rely heavily on the notion that god controls events. The bible pounders push the “wrath of god.” The Muslims say, “god willing” to most everything.

    Today, two very bad things are currently happening. Powerful political forces are damming all the benefits of Christianity, for the sins of the old world thinking bible pounders, and Western science is being politically used and dictated too.

    As the power of these two beneficial entities (Christian philosophy and free Western science) are being diminished – the backwards ideologies of “dependence on god” are regaining power. How ironic!

    (The last weekend’s political March for Science is a grave threat to free science.)

  36. Olorin says:
    @Paul Yarbles

    Reactionaries gonna react.

    It’s cruel of you–and probably non-PC or something–to expect otherwise of them.


  37. @Reactionary Utopian

    In your parable, I would simply have said of my crappy hammer that it’s a crappy hammer.

    There once was a man who wanted to hammer some nails. He went to the toolbox which was kept by his community. Sadly, it was empty except for two items. One was an old hammer with a splintery handle and a wobbly head and the other a nuclear bomb. In great anger at his bad luck he cursed the hammer, proclaiming to all who would listen what a crappy hammer it was. Some of his fellow country men were swayed by his vehement proclamations and vowed never to used the hammer again. These men called themselves the Never-Hammers.

    A little while later one of these Never-Hammer men who needed to hammer some nails went to the toolbox and, having no other options, decided to use the nuclear bomb. Upon the first blow of the first nail the bomb blew up destroying the community.

  38. @Paul Yarbles

    Ok, so we now know about hammers. What about sickles? 😉

  39. Avery says:

    {It will be, eventually.}

    No it won’t.

    {With regards to the white race, ….. Your sense of superiority precludes reversion to monotheism.}

    What sense of superiority are you talking about, homes?
    Where in my post did I say or allude to such a thing?
    And what are you babbling about precludes reversion to monotheism.? Christianity is monotheism.

    {No offence, but what is fucking wrong with you people.}

    No offense taken: but what the heck is wrong with you – specifically.

  40. @War for Blair Mountain

    If you equate liberalism with pedophilia you are simply a useful idiot of the left. America invented helicopter parenting and has one of the most kid-centric cultures on the planet. Liberal psychologists (on the look out for clients) get away with claiming that 20-30 percent of Americans are sexually molested as children. Increasing number of men are reluctant to go into teaching because of borderline pedo-hysteria. There’s plenty of easy points to attack the liberal left on without trying to blame them for pedophilia.

  41. @ThreeCranes

    Well sir it used to be that there was an awful lot of us and not so many black Africans. Now there’s a whole bunch of Africans,and counting,and less and less of US.
    I liked it better the way it was.
    Will our daughters bear Children of Color? Personally I can barely bear The Colored as it is.

  42. @War for Blair Mountain

    You’ll get no argument from me. I wish I knew what Steve Sailer thought he was accomplishing with his civic nationalism anymore.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
  43. IvyMike says:
    @Charles Vok

    mindless anti semitic blind worms wriggling throughout the internet

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  44. @IvyMike

    A great war cry, antisemitism, it is supposed, and, I must admit it does most of the time, to silence any criticism of jews.

    In the row in Europe between Brussel and Hungary about ending Soros’s activities in Hungary this war cry now also has been used.

    The Hungarian prime minister Orban had a talk with Brussels bureaucrat Timmermans about throwing Soros out of Hungary, especially his ‘prestigious’ university, in my view meant to undermine Hungarian nationalism.

    Orban in his talk with Timmermans seems to have called Soros a speculator, what he was, he made his fortune speculating in currencies.
    He even was condemned to three months jail by a French court for trading with foreknowledge.

    Soros is hated to this day in Malaysia, they feel he lowered the value of their currency, making their lives more expensive.

    But now Timmermans has labeled ‘speculator’ as ‘reeking of antisemitism’.
    Hungary now demands that Timmermans be fired.

    Brussels wants Hungary to adhere to EU values, this seems to include allowing Soros to undermine the Hungarian government.

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
  45. @Paul Yarbles

    I think I’ll decline to continue pointing out the defects in these analogies, fun though that is. Instead, let’s recap. I say that Trump is bad (ignorant, etc). Mr. Balls doesn’t say that I’m mistaken, and that Trump really does think deeply about things, has a consistent political philosophy, or whatever. Oh, no … Mr. Balls says I shouldn’t say that Trump is bad, because my saying so will cause bad things to happen. Quite a disconnect here.

    I’m not a propagandist. I’m a (decreasingly) free American, calling things as I see them. If I err, point it out. Otherwise, deal.

    • Replies: @Paul Yarbles
  46. Corvinus says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    “The Democratic Party is waging a violent demographic race war against The Historic Native Born White American Working Class.”

    There observably is no such thing occurring here, War for Blair Mountain/anon/Priss Factor.

  47. @jilles dykstra

    That raises a question, Jilles: can the EU expel a member state, such as Hungary, against their will? I assume you’re Dutch, right? I thought maybe you’d know.

  48. @Corvinus

    Corvinus the Dainty One

    What you think is true or not true is 100 percent irrelevant. The only thing that matters is whether or not millions of Working Class Native Born White Americans believe that there is a genocidal race war being waged against them by the Democratic Party Voting Bloc. If they do…they will act accordingly. I imagine they will react the same exact way the Chinese in China would react if they woke one day and found Chinese Universities and Tech Companies colonized by thousands of Hindu Legal Immigrants….This is the reason why China and India have a highly militarized border….Same reason that India and Pakistan have a highly militarized border.

    The Democratic Party has been playing with fire since October 1965…..the basement of the US has been filled with gasoline since 1965… the brim….only a match or two away….

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  49. @Corvinus

    War for Blair Mountain/anon/Priss Factor.

    Anon = Priss Factor != War for Blair Mountain

    What would lead you to believe that War for Blair Mountain = Priss Factor?!

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Corvinus
  50. Alden says:
    @Reactionary Utopian

    Her name is Hildabeast not Hillary.

  51. @Reactionary Utopian

    I believe that “foundational” attacks such as yours should only be used against those who oppose us — our enemies so to speak (looking through your commenting history I’m assuming what you want and what I want overlap a great deal, but maybe I’m wrong here). For all his faults I feel Trump still has something to offer and thus should be salvaged, not savaged. Trump can be criticized, but should not be weakened. Why? Because those who would fill the void left by a departed Trump are much much worse. I realize that what you and I say has very little influence, but these things add up.

    I guess you disagree with this. You probably think that holding one’s tongue for political reasons is detestable in some ways. I can see your point.

  52. Agent76 says:

    Feb 26, 2017 NATO-CFR Allies Pence and Mattis Subvert Trump on Russia

    He discusses Russia’s paying the last Soviet Union debts, the Pentagon-Russian Ministry of Defense war of words, U.S. Vice President Michael Pence’s speech at the 2017 Munich Security Conference, the sudden death of the Russian ambassador to the U.N., Vitaly Churkin, and new Russian weapons and military technologies.

  53. Alden says:
    @Reactionary Utopian

    A rigorous, prestigious private high school Fordham and Wharton Trump is better educated and more knowledgable than 98 percent of Americans.

    You’ve been taken in by Jewish propaganda that all goyim are ignorant, uneducated retards.

  54. Alden says:
    @Paul Yarbles

    I wish War For Blair Mountain would admit that the draft ended 44 years ago.

  55. Alden says:

    Your post about religion is totally incoherent. What do you mean? I believe the psychiatric term for your post is word salad or confabulation.

  56. Alden says:

    Are you a Wahabi Muslim sex slave owner pimp and brothel keeper? That’s what your posts reads like.

    I don’t know what you intended to say, but the paragraph that fathers, mothers, patriarchs, church elders husbands and brothers can order a woman to have or not have sex is the exact way pimps and prostitutes have operated since man kind began walking upright.

    And church elders ordering women to have sex with them had led to innumerable scandals over the centuries.
    Do you belong to some weirdo Babylonian sect with prostitute/priestesses?

    • Replies: @Ace
  57. Alden says:
    @Paul Yarbles

    Obviously you know nothing about tools and any kind of manual labor including basic household maintaince.

    There comes a time when every tool cannot be repaired and must be discarded.
    Stick to what you know, computers and paper.

  58. Alden says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Quite an achievement don’t you think? We are the biggest and baddest mother lovers on the planet.

    I wonder what will destroy the Netherlands first, the rising of the North Sea because of global warming or a total takeover by the radical Muslim grand children of the cheap labor your industrialists imported from Morocco in the 1960s?

  59. bjondo says:
    @jim jones

    The religion of the Judaized West is Judaism.
    Not kosher to mention
    bowing is approved

    Christianity is the religion not permitted.
    Muslims, A weapon used

  60. Corvinus says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    “What you think is true or not true is 100 percent irrelevant.”

    Actually, it is relevant what I say, since I am a Working Class Native Born White American. Because of the right of freedom of association, we are able to mix and mingle with whomever we choose.

    “The only thing that matters is whether or not millions of Working Class Native Born White Americans believe that there is a genocidal race war being waged against them by the Democratic Party Voting Bloc. If they do…they will act accordingly.”

    If, indeed. News Flash…they believe NO such thing is occurring. Sock puppet.

    “I imagine they will react the same exact way the Chinese in China would react if they woke one day and found Chinese Universities and Tech Companies colonized by thousands of Hindu Legal Immigrants….This is the reason why China and India have a highly militarized border….Same reason that India and Pakistan have a highly militarized border.”

    So, since you have “woken up” are you going to follow through with your own advice, or sit this one out. Because the longer you wait, the more likely the globalists will take you out. Time is of the essence.

    The Democratic Party has been playing with fire since October 1965…..the basement of the US has been filled with gasoline since 1965… the brim….only a match or two away….

    • Replies: @Alden
  61. Corvinus says:
    @Paul Yarbles

    “What would lead you to believe that War for Blair Mountain = Priss Factor?!”

    Same long winded writing style about Jews, elites, globalists, and n——. It is clear they are sock puppets.

  62. Sean says:

    Wellington was aghast at the size of the army Napoleon brought to Waterloo (and that was after Napoleon had made the fatal error of dividing his force). Any objective objective observer aware of the correlation of forces would have given Napoleon a far greater chance of victory at Waterloo that any expert gave Trump. He risked everything including his fortune, because it endless investigation by a hostile Hilary administration would have taken it from him had he lost

    Trump is like Peisistratos of Athens–the good tyrant who broke the stranglehold of the aristocracy. A very capable businessman, who relies on the support of the common people, just as the wealthy Peisistratos did. Trump has also mobilised an army of the lower orders to overturn all received wisdom about who rules and who can expect to benefit. Expect him to reward his supporters in the only way that he would want to be rewarded himself: with money. Trump will move left domestically.

    • Replies: @pogohere
  63. @Corvinus

    Thus speaks the cuck.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  64. Corvinus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “Thus speaks the cuck.”

    What an overused word. Why don’t you use your brain to think of something witty.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  65. Alden says:
    @Reactionary Utopian

    Only the dwindling few who care about The War Of Northern Agression care about the southern agrarian tradition. Few southerners have ever heard of it.

  66. Alden says:

    I too am a working class native born White American. Check out my last name, Alden.

    But your posts are just plain embarrassing. I was raised labor left. The Wobblies, Joe Hill, and the miners who fought the Feds and owners private armies at Blair Mountain and Hatlan county Kentucky were my heroes.

    But your bigoted ignorance is a disgrace. Everyone, Jew, Catholic republican, democrat everyone is your enemy. Pick one enemy, learn about it, them, him or her and stick to that one enemy.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  67. Alden says:

    Didn’t realize this was bible class.

    • Replies: @sonbeams
  68. Alden says:
    @Tiny Duck

    ” How does it feel? Knowing your daughters will bear Children of Color?”

    That’s what abortion is for.

    And thanks be to God and abortion fewer and fewer women of color are bearing children of color every year.

  69. sonbeams says:

    Attendance is optional. The door is always open.

  70. Corvinus says:

    “Everyone, Jew, Catholic republican, democrat everyone is your enemy.”

    What an unfortunate way to view life.

  71. pogohere says: • Website

    re: “A very capable businessman”

    You might find the references to Trump in Johnston’s “Temples of Chance: How America Inc. Bought Out Murder Inc. to Win Control of the Casino Business,” (1992) worthwhile. Trump is the quintessential embodiment of American culture living on debt, narcissism and whoever will finance his next obsession. It will be a hell of a ride.

  72. @Corvinus

    Overused? Doubt it. Certainly accurate in this case.

  73. joe webb says:

    Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 10:54 AM
    Subject: Fw: With Trump Name Unspoken, Kushners Seek Investors in Shanghai ( Trump sez: yellow no peril )

    “…Kushner Companies on Sunday tried to woo a Shanghai audience with promises of potentially big returns and a path toward living in the United States.”

    Trump’s luv of chinks. fuk Trump and his jew subversion. I guess this is another of Trump’s red herrings dragged across the trail of his putative racism….No racists here…we luv chinks , see?

    Joe Webb

    Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 10:50 AM
    Subject: With Trump Name Unspoken, Kushners Seek Investors in Shanghai

    Sent by [email protected]:

    With Trump Name Unspoken, Kushners Seek Investors in Shanghai

    A day after wooing wealthy Chinese in Beijing, Jared Kushner’s family firm offered visas to another audience in exchange for investment in a project.
    Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser:

  74. @Intelligent Dasein

    Laying the intellectual groundwork for Trumpism?

  75. Bill says:
    @jilles dykstra

    In a typical agricultural village (i.e. where 99% of the population lived) prior to the 19th C, the local church was the center of education, entertainment, and social work (I should also have said news gathering and dissemination). These industries are older than manufacturing and energy (not than defense, though). That we don’t usually think of these things as functions of the church just shows how completely the church’s functions have been supplanted by, well, the new church.

  76. […] all the talk of Trump abandoning his campaign promises (and I’m certainly upset about that myself), and the […]

  77. Ace says:
    @jim jones

    I’m sure mentioning, extolling, and advancing islam are perfectly ok in British politics.

    If not mandatory.

  78. Ace says:

    So Spartan prostitutes could order women in Sparta not to have sex? Or was it just they could tell other prostitutes not to have sex?

    And the Roman paterfamilias controlling who his wife and daughter could have sex with was acting like a pimp?

    And I’m sure it’s a fair reading of ThreeCrane’s post that he favors church elders ordering women to have sex with them.

  79. Ace says:
    @Tiny Duck

    What you mean is competent white males. You seem to assume there are millions of coloreds who have that same competence who’ll just take over.

    No, millions of you depend on government jobs and government protection. Southside Chicago isn’t because of a lack of privilege; it’s because of the presence of black thinking.

    You’ll go far . . . if you survive the great reckoning. Whites have stupidly been following their better nature. You’ll enjoy it when we stop that suicidal nonsense.

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