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The current round of presidential debates is packed with plans, programs, promises, claims and counter-claims. The question, as always, is which candidates are we to believe. The closer we get to an election, unscrupulous candidates tailor what they say to what the voters want to hear. The problem is separating the flimflam pols from the honest ones.

Even more problematical, how are we to distinguish the politician who is comfortable with the loftiest words but lacks the courage to fight for them? Ideas are a dime a dozen, and the best ones in the political realm are simple. They do not require an Isaac Newton to formulate them, let alone recognize them. A child who can say, “The Emperor has no clothes,” will do just fine as long as the kid has the courage to say it. Testicular or ovarian fortitude, as the case may be, is essential

In 2020 as progressives look at the Democratic Party candidates, how are these questions to be answered? For 2020 there is a simple answer. Just look at 2016.

2016 was widely recognized as the year of “populism,” more adequately described as the year of revolt against the political Establishment – in both Parties. The Democratic Primary in 2016 was a battle of progressive forces against the Democratic Establishment, and the battle lines were clearly drawn. Those lines remain much the same as we approach 2020.

On the Progressive or Populist side were those who opposed the endless wars in the Middle East, and on the Establishment side those who supported those long and bloody wars. On the Progressive Side were those who supported badly needed domestic reforms, most notably Medicare for All, which after all is a reform of almost 20% of the entire economy and a reform that has to do with life itself. In contrast on the Establishment side were those who supported ObamaCare, a device for leaving our health care to the tender mercies of the Insurance behemoths with its ever increasing premiums and ever decreasing coverage.

In 2016 the pundits gave progressives little chance of success. Hillary Clinton was a shoo-in, we were all assured by a horde of “reliable sources.” And given the control that the Clintonites exercised over the Democratic Party apparatus, there was little prospect of a successful rebellion and every chance of having one’s career badly damaged by opposing Party elite. Summer soldiers and duplicitous candidates were not interested in challenging the Establishment.

In 2016 Bernie Sanders was the only politician who was willing to take on the Establishment. Although not technically a Democrat, he caucused with them and worked with them. And he was a lifelong, reliable and ardent advocate for Medicare for All and a consistent opponent of the endless wars. For these things he was prepared to do battle against overwhelming odds on the chance that he might prevail and because from his grass roots contacts he sensed that a rebellion was brewing.

In 2016 only one among the current crop of candidates followed Bernie, supported him and joined him on the campaign trail – Tulsi Gabbard. At the time she was a two term Congresswoman and Vice Chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), a career building position, from which she would have to resign in order to support one of the candidates. Moreover, reports said she bridled at the internal bias of the DNC in favor of Hillary. To express her displeasure with the DNC and to support Bernie, she had to defy the Clinton Establishment, which might even have terminated her political career. But she was a foe of the endless wars, partly based on her own experience as a National Guard member who had been deployed to Iraq in a medical unit and saw the ravages of war first hand. So she joined Bernie, introducing him at many of his rallies and strengthening his antiwar message.

Bernie and Tulsi proved themselves in the defining battle of 2016. They let us know unequivocally where they stand. And Bernie might well have won the nomination were he not cheated out of it by the Establishment which continues to control the levers of power in the Democratic Party to this day.

In 2016 these two stood in stark contrast to the other 2020 Democratic candidates. Let us take one example of these others, Elizabeth Warren, a darling of the main stream media which often refers to her as ideologically aligned to Bernie Sanders. Perhaps she is so aligned at times – at least in words; she is after all in favor of Medicare for All, although she hastens to add that she is “open to other approaches.” That qualifier is balm to the ears of the Insurance behemoths. Translation: she has already surrendered before the battle has begun.

In 2016 a critical primary for Bernie was Masschusetts where Senator Warren wields considerable influence. Clinton defeated Sanders there by a mere 1.5% whereas she had lost to Obama there by 15% in 2008. Wikipedia has this to say of the primary:

“Following the primary, Elizabeth Warren, the state’s senior US senator, was widely criticized by Sanders supporters online for her refusal to endorse him prior to the primary. Supporters of Bernie Sanders have argued that an endorsement from Warren, whose political positions were similar to that of Sanders’s, and who was a frequent critic of Hillary Clinton in the past, could have handed Massachusetts to him.

One must conclude that either Warren does not genuinely share the views of Sanders or she is loath to buck the Establishment and fight for those views. In either event she, and the others who failed to back Bernie in 2016, are not made of the stuff that can win Medicare for All, bring an end to the regime change wars and illegal sanctions of the last four or more administrations, begin serious negotiations to end the existential nuclear peril, and address the many other problems facing us and all of humanity.

So, if you are a progressive looking at the crowded Democratic field in 2020, there is no need to be perplexed. The answer to your dilemma lies right before your eyes in the record of 2016. The two who stood up then and fought for the kind of changes you desire were Bernie and Tulsi. They walked the walk when the road was not an easy one.

John V. Walsh can be reached at [email protected]

 
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  1. Tusk says:

    It seemed at the end of the day even Bernie supported the establishment so it’s a moot point really who did or didn’t support him, considering he wouldn’t even support himself.

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @Kronos
  2. The scalpel says: • Website

    All that an AIPAC too! Three cheers for two state apartheid and the death of BDS! These two will fold to the lobby quicker than a cheap lawn chair.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan, Moi
  3. Anonymous[322] • Disclaimer says:

    “Bernie walked the walk”
    When was that? The time he toured through Baltimore and called it a third world city while assiduously not discussing how, why, and because of who it became so?
    The way he openly sold out to Clinton and ducked into his new third manor house to avoid being held to task for leaving his base out to dry the very moment they were ready to seriously break ranks from the neolib political machine?
    Is he walking the walk now as he tries to rationalize away his underpaying of his campaign workers and cuts hours to minimize the costs of the 15 dollar floor price he demanded for everyone other employer?
    The man is a DNC stooge through and through.
    And Tulsi being anti-war out of personal squeamishness doesn’t make up for the rest of her painfully party-line-compliant platform, particularly when the Deep State has multiple active avenues available to at the very least keep our military presence still existing military presence trapped and held hostage. All the dove cooing in recorded world history won’t hold up when, not if, Britain or France or whoever deliberately sinks another navy vessel and drags her by the hair into another desert scrum.

    • Agree: MikeatMikedotMike
  4. @Anonymous

    Quote: “When was that?”

    Reply: The moment he endorsed HRC and showed his true colors.

  5. Who honestly cares what happens in a democracy?

    It’s pure impotence totally devoid of any awe or respect. When “leaders” need to passive aggressively trick you into giving them permission to rule you, it just proves how effeminate, honor-less, and two-faced these disgusting human vermin really are.

    The kind of scum that rises to the top of a democracy are precisely the type who would sink like rocks in a fascist volk.

    The good news is that some will liquidate these scumbags. Guaranteed. Either nationalists or Muslims. My money is on the barbarians at the gate. Allah Akbar!

    • Replies: @sally
  6. Was this article sponsored by the Democratic Committee? Both these people want to give America away and are for unbridled illegal immigration and most likely want to pay reparations. Tulsi is a Hindu. Hindus are Supremacist Racist against all others in India. Bernie is just another stupid Jew who wants to give away everything for free and it will come out our pockets.

    Both these clowns will continue the destruction of the whites and middle class in America. There are no progressives….they are Marxists no matter how you cut it.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Nodwink
    , @Wally
    , @voicum
    , @dfordoom
  7. A nice summary of the argument for Bernie. The comments above provide better ones against.

    • Replies: @Paw
  8. Kronos says:
    @Tusk

    As with the 1960 Presidential Election, Hillary stole that election fair and square. Had Sanders went full third party, it would’ve destroyed the Democrats outright. Despite Clinton’s cheating, Bernie went ahead and bent the knee. Strangely enough, Trump’s victory saved Sanders and his faction. Had Clinton won, she would’ve purged the Sanders supporters relentlessly.

    There is such a thing as a tactical retreat. Now he’s able to play again.

    • Agree: RobinG
    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    , @annamaria
  9. Nik says:

    I dont remember either Bernard Saunders or Tulsi Gabbard even uttering the word Apartheid.

    These peopke are hypnotized

  10. Tulsi Gabbard lost me when she voted in favor of HRes246.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  11. Renoman says:

    It’s a moot point as Trump will win anyway. The Democrats are soooo screwed.

  12. alexander says:

    The reality, Mr. Walsh,

    is that our “establishment elite” have failed the United States of America.

    How, you may ask ?

    The answer is simple.

    By defrauded us into multiple illegal wars of aggression they have bankrupted the entire nation.

    The iron fact is that because our “elites” lied us into illegal war we are now 22.5 trillion dollars in heinous debt.

    Why is this okay ?

    The answer is simple.

    It is not okay, NOT AT ALL .

    And it is not enough (anymore) to just demand we “end our wars”, Mr. Walsh.

    The cost in treasure has been too high and the burden on the US taxpayer too obscene.

    Without demanding “accountability” from our elites, who lied us into this catastrophe, our nation is most probably going under.

    I say…. make them pay …”every penny”…. for the cost of the wars they lied us into.

    An initiative, like the “War fraud Accountability Act” (retroactive to 2002) would do just that.

    it would replenish the coffers of our nation with all the assets of the larcenous profiteers who deceived us all….into heinous war debt.

    As we witness the rise of China as the new global economic powerhouse, we can see first hand how a nation can rise to immense wealth and global influence “precisely because” it was never deceived by its “ruling class” into squandering all its resources initiating and fighting endless criminal wars.

    Just imagine where the USA would be today, had we chosen the same course.

  13. Until Dems are willing to refuse to depend on Haim Saban’s “generous donation” to the Dem candidate, none of their candidates will deserve to be the the POTUS candidate. Ditto for the Republicans and their fetish with Shelly Adelson. Candidates must kowtow to Israel or else there will be no dough for them and they might even be challenged in their incumbencies next time around by ADL/AIPAC. Until we get rid of Israeli money and political power, we are toast.

  14. onebornfree says: • Website

    The election debates are Kabuki theater- smoke and mirrors, or whatever you want to call it.

    Pure theater. Just more blather, bull$hit and drivel.

    WTF difference does it make who wins another totally meaningless presidential election?

    Reality Fact: Every day the federal government gets even bigger, rewards itself and its cronies/sycophants with even bigger budgets, and therefor enables the 0.01% to “legally” suck even more from the economy and take ever more freedom from us all.

    Anyone who doesn’t already know and understand that fact is either not paying attention to the glaringly obvious or, is deliberately ignoring it, or, is actually in favor of a bigger federal government, more wars, more regulations, higher taxes, a lower general standard of living and far less freedom for individuals.

    Reality Fact: Trump Is A Socialist :

    Just like all of the Dems, Trump is a chimera, a lie, another big government loving deliberate distraction. Just like the Dems, he has never been in favor of the re-establishment of a small constitutionally limited federal government.

    Trump, just like the Dems, is a full-on socialist and is therefor just as much an enemy of freedom as are all of the lying, loathsome commie democrat scumbags [including Gabbard and Sanders].

    Reality Fact :

    There is NOT ONE current political candidate in either main party, who is on record as being seriously committed to radically downsizing the US federal government. Not one.

    Reality Fact: Government “Solutions” Have Never Worked :

    Historically, government solutions have never worked. [eg health care, drug prohibition, the environment, infrastructure, “education”]. Which means that any/all newly proposed government “solutions” to problems , whether proposed by a Republican or a Democrat, will fail to improve things but will instead make things even worse than they already are!

    Therefor the only genuine”fix” is to get the federal government entirely out of all the areas it has unconstitutionally invaded and then ruined [ eg health care, the environment, education], and return it to its original constitutional size, limits, and functions.

    “The all-important first step toward getting smaller government is to stop supporting anyone who is making government bigger.” [Extracted from Harry Browne’s “Why Government Doesn’t Work”: https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Why_Government_Doesn’t_Work

    Reality Fact :

    Trump, and all the other Dems and Repubs [ two sides of the same coin] is just yet another manifestation of the “more , bigger government, and more laws is what we need” scam. Pure deception.

    Bottom line: a vote for Trump, or a “new” Trump, or or any other current Demopublican candidate is, as it stands, a vote for an [even] bigger government, bigger deficits, less freedom, more wars, even more government interference in the economy, and, therefor, an even lower standard of living for the masses than is currently “enjoyed”, as the 0.01% continue to “legally”extract more and more wealth from the government-run [ie communist/fascist] system.

    See: “The Donald Trump “Make America Great Again” Scam”:
    http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2017/05/why-donald-trump-wont-work.html

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  15. You left out two facts:

    1)Both Sanders and Gabbard are onboard for going to war against Christian Russia over Crimea..Sanders has gone so far as saying that a Military response against Russia is an option if all else fails in getting Russia out of Crimea…

    2)Both Sanders and Gabbard are waging a war of RACIAL EXTERMINATION against Working Class Native Born White American Males….And that’s WHITE GENOCIDE!!!!

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  16. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    These self-styled Progressives(tm) are just as gullible as the MAGAs.

    1. Don’t vote in national elections. Not only does it change nothing, it insulates your rulers from meaningful dissent and thus sustains the Empire.

    2. If you must participate in the farce, leave your Red and Blue crayons at home.

  17. More mindless Gabbard fapping.

  18. Grizaby says:

    Ugh bernie is still the best candidate in forever. If he doesnt do what we want then we tried everything besides organized resistance

  19. @Kronos

    Bernie “bent the knee” once and got to enjoy his lakeside home and his wife protected from fraud prosecution after she stole money from People’s United Bank for her college scam.

    He is owned.

    If Tulsi were a serious threat she would be neutralized one way or another.

    “Progressives” are virtue signaling fools–the kleptocracy marches on and laughs at them.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  20. There was a story about Ford how he did hire an accountant.
    It went like this:
    And so Fort did advertise for the position and next day after he did start the interviews.
    So first accountant went in the office and Ford let him sit down.
    And ford asked him the question: How much is one plus one?
    The applicant did not flinch and said two.
    Thank you sir we will let you know.
    Next one went in and was asked the same question.
    This one was shocked about stupidity of the question and said. well sir even child know that it is of course two.
    Ford dismissed this one also without hesitation.
    Than came the third one in.
    Ford did ask him the same question.
    Just a minute sir said the accountant, and than he did pull out writing pad and he did write down
    1+1=2
    Than than he was reading from the writing pad one plus one equals two.
    You are hired my son said Ford.
    ……………………………………………………….
    US elections are baseless superficial shows where presentation of the argument and confidence of presentation is followed by enthusiastic clapping of seals.

    The only meaningful debates must have some base.
    So what should happen is that all presidential candidates should write manifesto of their policies at lest two hundred pages of internal policies and one hundred pages of international policies.
    and publish these policies way ahead of debates.

  21. concerned says:

    Check out “The National Security State Needs an Enemy: Senator Warren Warns About “White Supremacist” Threat” by Kurt Nimmo at:

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/state-needs-enemy-warren-warns-about-white-supremacist-threat/5685241?print=1

    One has to wonder where Dems like Warren and their identity politics is taking the US. Will everyone who even slightly disagrees with them be labeled a terrorist?

  22. I want Andrew yang.

    The Asian candidate that even white supremists want and supports. That says slot.

    Retarded Bernie will lose against the orange hair 1000%.

  23. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    There is no political solution, our countries are dead but our people arent

    Built your own tribe with people close to you

    • Replies: @anon
  24. Nodwink says:
    @niteranger

    Hindus are Supremacist Racist against all others in India.

    I hear this line all the time from hardline Muslims. You didn’t type this comment in Riyadh, did you?

  25. Again, people foolishly believe party candidates are nominated due to their popularity and what the populace wants. As we have seen time after time, the “favored candidates” are not nominated. Candidates are picked by political party hierarchy and “super delegates”, end of story.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  26. sally says:

    Doesn’t Bernie lives in the same state as the Koch Brothers ?
    enough said.

  27. sally says:
    @SparkleBoiWonderToy

    Right on! The problem in America is not its government, instead it is those that have figured out how to get one of the two parties (gateways to leadership in Economic Zionism) to allow them to be a candidate and sufficient access to the deep pockets hidden within the election committees of the two parties so they can get elected. After being elected they are paid giant salaries and given many privileges.

    Remember in USA occupied America, the USA allows those few tightly governed Americans, those it has qualified to vote, just three votes for each voter.. (1 for house of representatives [1 from your home town district <= but there are 450 districts, meaning the qualified voter can only vote in one district]), and 2 for the Senate (but there are 100 Senators, yes but American voters are allowed only to pick two to vote for, from the slate of candidates for the US Senate, that run in the the voters home state.

    Awe but the real I got you is that no qualified voter's vote is counted toward electing the President or the VP, even though the voter is led to believe his or her vote for the President or vice President counts.. Why.. because the President and Vice President are Article II (of the USA Constitution) persons and All article two persons are elected by the electoral college. not by the popular vote, billions are spent on a fake election. .

    What we need is leaderless government.. We elect the Bureaucrats to serve in the positions of government,but we do not elected leaders, no lawmakers, no president, no senate, no house of representatives. none of that.

    An idea to fix things! But we do elect judges.. and we change the law that said any person in american that can identify one of the elected judges or one of the bureaucrats that is involved in the corruption, that American can bring charges of
    corruption and if those charges are proved then the convicted judge or bureaucrat is removed from office or judgeship and sent to jail for life. .

  28. It does not matter in the larger scheme of things which demonrat or republicon wins as everyone of them will be controlled by the zionists who rule America and if they happened to go off script, they will be assassinated just like JFK and if the zionists believe that an uncontrollable could become POTUS they will assassinate him as in the case of RFK.The candidates for POTUS are chosen by the zionists
    not by the American people!

    • Replies: @Durruti
  29. anon[683] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    There is no tribal survival solution either. KYAG

  30. @Freemanontheland

    Without looking it up, I’m assuming you are talking about Tulsi’s vote against BDS. She lost a lot of support with that vote, support she can’t afford to lose. I made a small contribution to help her get into the debates. Now I’m done with her. Take away her talk opposing these ‘regime change’ wars, and she’s just like the rest of them.

    • Replies: @voicum
  31. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    [So, if you are a progressive looking at the crowded Democratic field in 2020, there is no need to be perplexed. The answer to your dilemma lies right before your eyes in the record of 2016. The two who stood up then and fought for the kind of changes you desire were Bernie and Tulsi.]

    Don’t be a fool by the zionist Jewish tribe. Both Sanders and Tulsi are Charlatan and zionist to the core. It needs you to watch Sanders’ videos to see for yourself that he is A RABID ZIONIST Jew and part of the Jewish mafia tribe. Tulis is a zionist servant and an zionist racist Hindi who would do anything for the criminal Jewish tribe to be selected.

    No one in the selection process will be ‘elected’. Only fifth columnist traitors are selected by the baby killers.

    At this grave moment that the world rules by the Criminal Jewish mafia and their pimps, only ELIZABETH WARREN will beat shit out of that Jewish mafia pimp, Trump.

    Biden a self announced ZIONIST should be thrown out or jailed. He is one of the Iraq War architect like other jewish neocons where should be shot. Even the Zionists don’t want him. He is as criminal as Bush, Obama and Clinton.

    Vote for Elizabeth Warren, because there is NO other choice to force the Jewish mafia pimp out, and send the Zionist liars, Tulsi and Sanders, back to where they came from. Sanders loves little apartheid shitty entity and does anything to protect it, so the racist zionist Hindi.

    Don’t be fooled by their ‘journalist’ propagandists. Sanders is NOT a socialist or a left, but a charlatan belongs to the criminal Tribe. Only liars paint him differently.

    • Agree: Ilyana_Rozumova, renfro
    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  32. @Johnny Walker Read

    Unlike the democrats, the GOP doesn’t even use super delegates. If the party hierarchy had been in charge, do you think that Trump would have ever been nominated? They wanted another Bush, but the GOP voters were sick and tired of them. Love him or hate him, but the GOP voters finally got their way when Trump handily beat the 16 other losers who ran against him.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  33. Durruti says:
    @DESERT FOX

    It does not matter in the larger scheme of things which demonrat or republicon wins as everyone of them will be controlled by the zionists who rule America and if they happened to go off script, they will be assassinated just like JFK and if the zionists believe that an uncontrollable could become POTUS they will assassinate him as in the case of RFK.The candidates for POTUS are chosen by the zionists
    not by the American people!

    Just quoted this so people would read it one more time.

    AGREE

    Now for the CURE:

    We might Resist, and Restore Our Republic, which was destroyed in a hail of gunfire on November 22, 1963.

    1. Elections where no money may be spent (equal media access to all candidates).

    2. Jesse Ventura’s idea of banning corrupt Dem & Repub Gangs and encouraging citizens to establish new political parties.

    3. Committee of elders to oversee new elections. (Ron Paul, Joan Baez, Jimmy Carter, Jesse Ventura, Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney, others)

    4. Free all drug and alcohol related non violent with no organized crime connection prisoners – to make prison room for arrested political Traitor servants of foreign Nations/Entity/Oligarchs.

    5. Disarm Zionist Entity military/agencies, (seize the nuclear submarines, nukes, and poison gas, return Palestine to the Palestinians.

    6. End censorship of printed materials, Movies, Students.

    7. Continue this list……………………..

    Design our Newly Restored Republic.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  34. Wally says:
    @niteranger


    Here Are The 13 Nuttiest Quotes From Wednesday’s Democratic Presidential Debate
    http://www.unz.com/article/the-best-guide-for-the-perplexed-progressive-in-2020-is-2016/#comment-3366561

    #13 Kirsten Gillibrand: “The first thing that I’m going to do when I’m president is I’m going to Clorox the Oval Office.”

    #12 Jay Inslee: “Our house is on fire. We have to stop using coal in ten years and we need a president to do it or it won’t get done. Get off coal. Save this country and the planet.”

    #11 Joe Biden: “Obamacare is working.”

    #10 Julian Castro: “I don’t want to make America anything again. I don’t want us to go backward. We’re not going back to the past. We’re not going back where we came from. We’re going to move forward.”

    #9 Andrew Yang: “We need to do the opposite of much of what we’re doing right now and the opposite of Donald Trump is an Asian man who likes math.”

    #8 Kamala Harris: “What we need is someone who is going to be on that debate stage with Donald Trump and defeat him by being able to prosecute the case against four more years. And let me tell you we’ve got a long rap sheet.”

    #7 Cory Booker: “We have a real crisis in our country, and the crisis is Donald Trump — but not only Donald Trump, I have a frustration that sometimes people are saying the only thing they want is to beat Donald Trump. Well, that is the floor and not the ceiling.”

    #6 Bill de Blasio: “If we’re going to beat Donald Trump, this has to be a party that stands for something. The party of labor unions. This has to be the party of universal health care. This has to be the party that’s not afraid to say out loud we’re going to tax the hell out of the wealthy. And when we do that, Donald Trump right on cue will call us socialists. Here’s what I’ll say to him: ‘Donald, you’re the real socialist.’”

    #5 Jay Inslee: “And number two — number two, we have to make America what it’s always been, a place of refuge. We got to boost the number of people we accept. I’m proud to have been the first governor, saying send us your Syrian refugees. I proud to have the first governor to stand up against Donald Trump’s Muslim ban. I’m proud to have sued him 21 times and beat him 21 times in a row. I’m ready for November 2020.”

    #4 Andrew Yang: “Raise your hand in the crowd if you’ve seen stores closing where you live. It is not just you. Amazon is closing 30% of America’s stores and malls.”

    #3 Cory Booker: “There’s a saying in my community that you’re dipping into the Kool-Aid and you don’t even know the flavor.”

    #2 Kirsten Gillibrand: “I think as a white woman of privilege who is a US senator running for president of the united States, it is my responsibility to lift up those voices that aren’t being listened to. And I can talk to those white women in the suburbs and explain to them what white privilege actually is.”

    #1 Jay Inslee: “We have one last chance. When you have one chance in life, you take it. Think about this. Literally the survival of humanity on this planet in civilization is in the hands of the next president. And we have to have a leader who will do what is necessary to save us. That includes making this the top priority of the next presidency.”

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @follyofwar
  35. @onebornfree

    What do you want to downsize it to? What it was when the country was founded, when we had 13 states and 17 million people?

    Next question would be how do you propose to do it? We can’t even downsize the military. Being in 100 countries is apparently not enough. We need to be in more, according to our leaders.

    If you want to split it up, how do you propose that? It may fall apart on its own, but since the real division in the US is urban vs. suburban/rural, that means city-states with the suburban/rural people probably being shafted worse.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  36. Thomm says:

    Don’t be so perplexed,
    Why are you so vexed?
    Can’t you see you’re NEXT?

    Extra credit for figuring out where that is from.

  37. Bernie is truly special. He never held a job until he was 53 (elected Mayor)
    He lived off welfare,and 4 different women, had a child out of wedlock with one and had 3 failed marriages.
    In all his Senate years, he introduced over 360 bills -3 passed 2 for naming Post offices.

    In short , What makes this mental giant think he’s qualified to run a McDonald’s, let alone the USA?

    • Replies: @renfro
  38. @anonymous

    Convince me Warren is not part of the Zionist cabal.

  39. @The scalpel

    It might come out one day that Omar and Tlaib are receiving AIPAC money too. The farce is strong with that group.

  40. @Wally

    Here’s what I’ll say to him: ‘Donald, you’re the real socialist.’”

    There is more than a grain of truth to that. There is no indication that Trump would not bail out the banks, just as Obumboy did. That is socializing debt and privatizing profit.
    His tax cuts have mainly spurred corporations buying back their own stock, thus creating the artificially high Wall Street casino earnings. Without there been a hook, such as requiring investment in R&D without Hb-1 visa workers, or some other job generating mechanism, all that has happened is the the reduction of revenue to pay for private profit.

    As for Medicare for all, there are many models, and all of them cost less, as a percentage of budget, than what the US currently spends. Most models do not cover all expenses and require some level of private insurance. It is long buried, but the late Lee Iacocca predicted the demise of the US auto industry because all competitors had universal systems that were 1/4 the cost of the US Auto sector, which would eventually catch up. The globalist response was NAFTA, to ship as much as possible to Mexico to lower costs. Again, there was little investment in R&D with the massive savings.

    Don’t get me wrong, they are all globalist scum. However, Trump, despite the rhetoric, hasn’t really substantively, acted any differently. For that matter, most of the Republicans haven’t either, they all undyingly support a “shitty little country”.

  41. For all the dumb capitalists on here.

    From Paul Craig Roberts. Not a liberal by a long shot.

    “We can conclude that plunder of natural resources and the ability to externalize much of the cost have been major contributors right through the present day to the success of American capitalism. Michael Hudson has described the plunder process in his many books and articles (for example, http://www.unz.com/mhudson/u-s-economic-warfare-and-likely-foreign-defenses/ ), as has John Perkins in Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.”

    “Essentially, capitalism is a plunder mechanism that generates short-run profits by externalizing long-run costs. It exhausts natural resources, including air, land, and water, for temporary profits while imposing most of its costs, such as pollution, on the environment. An example is the destruction of the Amazon rain forest by loggers. The world loses a massive carbon sink that stabilizes the global climate, and loggers gain short-run profits that are a tiny percentage of the long-run costs.”

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @sally
  42. Kronos says:
    @Justvisiting

    Oh that’s tiny! Compared to the crazy shit the Clintons have done. The average corruption level amongst politicians is a lot higher then that. Also, Google tried to freeze out Gabbard.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-27/luongo-gabbard-going-after-google-double-plus-good

    Keep in mind I’m a 10 year registered Republican and voted for Trump. I’m planning on staying on the Trump Train for the foreseeable future.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @renfro
  43. @Wally

    A word about Biden saying that Obamacare is “working.” If a person quits his job midway thru the year and has no income at the time, he will be charged an extremely low monthly premium. But if he earned, say, $30,000 before he quit his job, he will be in for a big shock come tax time. If he didn’t know beforehand, that is when he will be charged based upon what he earned in the entire calendar year, even though he had private insurance while working. Then his ‘subsidy’ goes away and he is hit with a large tax added on to his other taxes, $1300 in my example (it wasn’t me but I did the taxes).

    It’s no wonder that Justice Roberts called it a tax, as that is exactly what it is for anyone who had a decent income who made the mistake of enrolling. Oh, but you do get free birth control with no co-pay, even though, otherwise, it has a $7000 deductible before it covers anything. Obamacare is garbage insurance.

  44. APilgrim says:

    2016 Presidential Candidate Donald Trump drew 24 Million Viewers.

    The domestic CNN Audience was ~8.7 Million Tuesday (Night-1, Round-2). (+1M international)

    ‘TV ratings rise in Round 2 of Democratic debate’, By STEPHEN BATTAGLIO, The Morning Call, AUG 01, 2019 | 11:17 AM, https://www.mcall.com/ratings-cnn-democratic-debate-story.html

    For Wednesday (Night-2, Round-2), “the final number is likely to be around 10 Million viewers, slightly below CNN’s expectations,”

  45. @Durruti

    Agree 100%, I am concerned that with AIPAC in total control of congress aka the lower house of the knesset that we patriots are on our own, when Israel and the zio/US can destroy the WTC and kill some 3000 Americans and get away with it, when every thinking American knows that they did it, I do not have much hope.

    Also read the book Blood in the Water by Joan Mellen about the attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 and wounded 194 Americans and this also was a joint attack by Israel and the zio/US and they got away with that also.

    Our country has been taken over by zionists and has been since 1913 when the zionist fastened their privately owned FED and IRS on to the American people and then came the foreign wars and debt and the killing fields!

    God help us, for it is going to take divine intervention to save America!

    • Replies: @Durruti
  46. RobinG says:
    @Kronos

    Watch the 9 minutes that has America searching Tulsi Gabbard

  47. https://spectator.us/tulsi-gabbard-become-republican/

    She will have to drop that nonsense of supporting the murder of children in the womb.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  48. sarz says:

    About Hinduism and Tulsi. Hinduism is not a religion so much as a way of seeing how various religious streams fit together with no single one having an inherent right to center stage. The practice of caste is there, and so is admonition against the caste system. Tulsi is a sincere Krishna bhakt. Maybe that’s the secret of her strength, that she’s guided in battle by the divine charioteer.

    It takes guts to call for auditing the Fed. Remember how Bernie Sanders, the Senate sponsor of the bill that Ron Paul guided through the House with a huge majority, then went about gutting his own bill? Look up a video of Ron Paul talking about it.

    It looks like Tulsi is preparing to take Bernie head-on over his Fed record.

  49. Bernie is a sellout. He was cheated by cackling hyena, and then went on to support her. In my book that means that he cannot be trusted. He will never get my vote.

    Tulsi is a dark horse. She supported cackling hyena, which is a huge negative. She is against imperial wars, which is positive. I am not sure whether I can vote for her, but she appears to be the only person approaching human in the Dem zoo today.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  50. @EliteCommInc.

    So you support the slavery of a woman to a child (fetus)? Maybe if we had some sensible form of adoption, women would not be forced to be slaves to the fetus they carry. The 13th amendment prohibits slavery, if you know anything about the amendments to the Constitution.

    • Replies: @Sharrukin2
  51. Wally says:
    @onebornfree

    Except that the candidates that are opposing Trump would be much, much worse.

    The fact that the left, ‘the media’, ‘academia’, and The Usual Enemies of Free Speech so violently oppose Trump means that Trump is the one, the only one to vote for.

    Perhaps ‘onebornfree’ thinks “the squad” would do better.

    Trump Declares “National Day for the Victims of Communism.”
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/11/07/national-day-victims-communism

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @onebornfree
  52. RobinG says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Well, you go to war with the army you have. (In this case, the soldier.)

    “Name a better candidate.

    The reality is, you have to go with the best option you have when it comes time to vote.

    So comparing ANY candidate to a fictional ideal candidate isn’t really a thing.”

    L.S.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @sally
  53. VFY says:
    @onebornfree

    I appreciate your posts regarding the libertarian/free market/small gov perspective. Have you ever posted on libertarian leaning forums such as ronpaulforums.com? I remember that particular forum used to have members with the exact same view as you before the Trump era. However, those same members are now big Trump ass lickers. Why do you think libertarians like that have changed their view so much? Is it really because of the ‘brown people’? What makes a libertarian like you stay the course in your views?

    • Replies: @onebornfree
    , @Anounder
  54. @Wally

    The Dems might be even worse than Trump, as was the case in 2016. But that does not mean that Trump is good. A simple example: a headache is better than decapitation, but this does not make headache a good thing.

    If Trump were honest, he’d also declare a national day for the victims of capitalism. There were a lot more of those than victims of communism. But Trump is a politician. “Honest politician” is a contradiction in terms.

    BTW, believing that communism will make everyone happy is just as stupid as believing that capitalism will make everyone happy. And vice versa.

  55. @davidgmillsatty

    I know right! It is worse for many of us. I am enslaved by my stomach. If I don’t give that SOB what he wants…I die!

    Is that fair? Is that justice?

  56. Durruti says:
    @DESERT FOX

    God help us,

    I believe we have received much help recently.

    The shocking explosion of the Epstein scandal, exposes his links to both Dems & Repub leaders as well as his Zionist connections to the Entity (specially its previous and would be future Prime Minister, Ehud Barak). The corruption and depravity of the New World Order Oligarchs is displayed, front page (at least momentarily).

    We are given gifts, almost daily. We might open the packages and utilize them. The Russians, and Syrians with Hezbollah, have slowed the march toward Eretz Israel.

    We continue to breath & yearn to be free.

    The Democratic Republic (all Republics are democratic – albeit to different degrees) is the only road forward. The Republic with the Rabble in Arms (that’s us), is our spiritual road forward.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/214434.Rabble_in_Arms

    As I tell my students: “Leave fear at the door.”

    Your Friend: Durruti

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  57. @Durruti

    Thanks for your reply, however with out ending the zionist privately owned FED and IRS , I can see no way out of the zionist prison we are in and as Nathan Rothschild infamously said; I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England for the man who controls the money supply controls the British empire and I am that man.

    It is the same here in America the zionists own and control the FED and thus America via the creation of money out of thin air and until this unconstitutional illegal money creation by the zionist banking kabal is ended we will remain slaves!

    I see no way out without divine intervention, as over the years I have written, emailed, called our 2 senators and 1 rep. here in Montana and to others in other states, to no avail, the power of AIPAC and the zionist money rules!

    • Replies: @APilgrim
    , @Durruti
  58. Thirdeye says:
    @alexander

    As we witness the rise of China as the new global economic powerhouse, we can see first hand how a nation can rise to immense wealth and global influence “precisely because” it was never deceived by its “ruling class” into squandering all its resources initiating and fighting endless criminal wars.

    That was a lesson China had to learn the hard way, twice. China’s reckless attempts to drive southward in the last year of the Korean war put the PLA on the verge of collapse. They accepted the armistice in the nick of time. Their 1979 invasion of Vietnam was a humiliating defeat. If the Chinese revolution had continued according to Mao’s militaristic vision, China would have ended up as a heavily armed but impoverished backwater like North Korea. And in the long run a lot less secure, surrounded by enemies.

  59. Another attempt to push Tulsi Gabbard aside by making Bernie Sellout Sanders look like a fighter for the underdog. Bernie Sanders ENDORSED Hillary Clinton for Prez after he knew that she and the DNC had stolen the primary election from him. I don’t need a weakling stooge like that in 2020. Gabbard? You betcha!

    • Replies: @alexander
  60. RobinG says:

    You are so right that Epstein story is a gift, but MSM doesn’t want to unwrap it. OTOH, Lee Stranahan is the gift that keeps giving … in this case digging through the dirt on Epstein-Dershowitz-Maxwell-Giesea-Facebook-Qanon-Breitbart-Browder-Khodorkovsky major psy-op, and more….

    Liars, Psy-Ops & The Deep State Devils Wear #MAGA with LEE STRANAHAN

    #KevBakerShow #LeeStranahan

    Investigative journalist & co-host of Fault Lines on Sputnik News Lee Stranahan joins me to expose some very uncomfortable truths about some of the personalities that have risen to power in recent times.

    Lee lays out the back story & the connections between some very interesting characters as we expose the infiltration of the truth community.

    Not only that, we get into how Mike Cernovich & others have LIED to people about the role he played in the rearrest of a very dark & evil character indeed, and shows just what the motives behind it are!

    Hold on tight, this is one powerful interview that will connect a lot of dots that some very important people will not be happy about.

    Check out Lee on Twitter….
    @stranahan
    https://twitter.com/stranahan

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  61. @The scalpel

    You’ve got that right, you sho got that right..

  62. @follyofwar

    Trump would not have been nominated if that was what the Neo-Con controlled Republican party had wanted. Republicans are every bit the dirty trickster’s as their Democrat brothers and sisters. Bottom line is nobody from either party gets the nod unless they are “Kosher approved”. Ron Paul is the perfect example of a good old Republican Party screwing.

    “Party leaders at the county and state level have changed or violated party rules, cancelled caucuses, changed vote counts, thrown out entire counties of votes, counted public votes privately, called-in the SWAT team, and inexplicably replaced Paul delegates with Romney delegates to block Ron Paul from winning the nomination”.
    https://www.opednews.com/articles/How-the-GOP-Establishment-by-Jaret-Glenn-120806-535.html

  63. @RobinG

    True. But you don’t necessarily have any illusions about the best army or soldier you have. You can simply select the lesser evil. In 2016 I did not vote at all. But if I had to (like in Australia), I’d vote Trump (warts and all). By rights, cackling hyena should be in jail, confined to the madhouse within penal institution.

  64. @RobinG

    Excellent video! Thank’s for sharing.

    • Agree: Republic
  65. sally says:
    @RobinG

    That’s the problem .. blind sight . you don’t need a lead..

    Out of the 527 persons that are elected.. you get a vote for but three.. none of them are president or vice president.

    Your vote as follows

    450 voting districts positions in the house 450
    less: your vote in your district (1)
    Persons in the house you c/n vote for 449

    100 Senators (your vote 2 from your state) 100
    less: your vote in your state (2)
    Persons in the Senate you c/n vote for 98

    2 Article Two persons (President and Vice President) 2
    Less: your vote in the Presidential election (2)
    Persons in the white house you c/n vote for 2

    Total elected persons in the Government 527
    Less: total persons you can not vote for 524
    Persons you can vote for 3

    Note: My reading of constitution says that only the house and senate are elected by a very limited popular vote and only the members of the electoral college can vote for Article II persons.
    the best candidate is none at all.. nothing wrong with the government as long as there are no leaders.
    Certainly 3 votes does not get us the leadership we all desire..

  66. onebornfree says: • Website
    @VFY

    Thanks for the questions.

    VFY says: “Have you ever posted on libertarian leaning forums such as ronpaulforums.com?”

    I have posted there, but it was only concerning 9/11 a few years back. But in general I’d rather post where I’ll get almost complete opposition [like here], not agreement. [I’m perverted that way 🙂 ]

    VFY says: “I remember that particular forum used to have members with the exact same view as you before the Trump era. However, those same members are now big Trump ass lickers. Why do you think libertarians like that have changed their view so much? ”

    In my view, most so-called “libertarians” are not, really. They are very inconsistent in their view. Hence, they were easily suckered by the Trump phenomenon. For myself, even Ron Paul was a watered down version of what I think of as being truly”libertarian”. For example, he never explicitly called for a drastic, immediate reduction in the size of the federal government and a return to its original constitutional limits when he ran for president [ unless I somehow missed it].

    As with most of the rest of the population, the basic false assumption that most “libertarians” suffer from is the assumption that government solutions actually work [or will do if the “right ” people get elected]. Most also don’t appear to understand that the state is a non-reformable, 100% criminal organization, that needs to be entirely abolished somehow, or at the very least, reduced to its “legal” [ie “constitutional”] minimum size as quickly as possible, if not sooner .

    See: “The Donald Trump “Make America Great Again” Scam…..or, “Why Donald Trump Won’t Work””:
    http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2017/05/why-donald-trump-wont-work.html

    …and: “The World’s Biggest, Most Dangerous Scam Is….The “Government Solutions Work” Scam”:
    http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2018/09/the-worlds-biggest-most-dangerous-scam.html

    VFY says: “What makes a libertarian like you stay the course in your views?”

    I don’t call myself “libertarian” any longer, its way too broad and carries too much baggage. Heck, even a full-on statist such as Alex Jones repeatedly claims to be ” a libertarian”[He’s not, he’s just a very naive and confused statist] . These days I’m just an extremely cynical radical individualist/outlaw. But I’m sure my detractors have plenty of other labels to gleefully apply, but that’s OK 🙂 .

    I think my song “Dreams [Matrix Blues]”, nicely represents my point of view:

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @Anounder
  67. alexander says:
    @37bottlesofbeer

    Amen to that !

    You got it right.

    Tulsi all the way !

  68. onebornfree says: • Website
    @davidgmillsatty

    Thanks for the questions.

    My short answer to your questions is for you to read “Why Government Doesn’t Work” , written by the 1996 and 2000 Libertarian presidential candidate, Harry Browne :

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?176722-Why-Government-Doesn-t-Work-by-Harry-Browne-FREE-PDF

    ….and then perhaps [assuming you’re not completely turned off]:

    “The Great Libertarian Offer” : https://barnesandnoble.com/w/great-libertarian-offer-harry-browne/1003840022

    regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Anounder
  69. APilgrim says:
    @DESERT FOX

    The ballooning ~$23T National Debt with several hundred trillion in unfunded entitlements will POP here as it has popped elsewhere.

    That will cancel the unlimited ‘credit-card’ here, as it has elsewhere. It is FAR too late to prevent this disruption, so IMHPO ‘fiscal-conservatism’ is just ‘too-little, too-late’.

    AFTER the US economy gyrates wildly for a while … Then there will be an opportunity to restart with a balanced budget and all that jazz. So for now, I guess we should just enjoy the ‘Free-Stuff’ at the ongoing ‘Seed-Corn-Banquet’.

  70. alexander says:

    You know Tulsi is probably way ahead of all the establishment stooges when they start to bring out the “Russia bots”.

    When the corrupt DNC and its lying media is called out, for what it is…they always go full “Russia” .

    It is clear signal that Tulsi is , in reality , polling at the top spot.

    I hope she takes the nomination…by a landslide.

  71. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Wally

    Fact: Bigger government means more laws, more wars, less freedom and a higher cost of living for people like you and me. Do you seriously want a bigger government?

    Trump has already increased the size of the federal government and federal spending, no differently from any Democrat would propose.

    Fact: If you voted for Trump you voted for bigger government and less freedom.

    Fact : History shows to date that whichever “side” you vote for, the government gets bigger, spends more, inflates more [via the Fed], and so you wind up with more laws, even less freedom, and every one [except the elite] winds up even poorer to boot as the government slowly stifles and robs the free market.

    Trump is a continuation of that exact same process, not even a stalling or slowing of it, as his actions since taking office clearly demonstrate.

    “The all-important first step toward getting smaller government is to stop supporting anyone who is making government bigger.” [Extracted from Harry Browne’s “Why Government Doesn’t Work”: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?176722-Why-Government-Doesn-t-Work-by-Harry-Browne-FREE-PDF

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • Replies: @Wally
  72. Durruti says:
    @DESERT FOX

    To accomplish the ending of Zionist owning & control of the “FED & thus America,” We the People must restore our power by Restoring our Republic.

    My Friend:

    No Santa Clause is going to come down from the sky, and honor your emails & letters. Those letters need to be addressed to a Constitutional Government, and in your case, those letters must be delivered by Armed Montana Militia.

    Your reliance on Representatives of the Zionist Oligarchs, cannot work in a nation controlled by Foreign & domestic Zionist Oligarchs. THE OLIGARCHS MUST FIRST BE REMOVED FROM POWER!

    Understand: These Traitor Oligarchs obtained world power through a combination of fancy Money Laundering and usury, combined with extremely bloody counter-revolutionary violence and a culture rampant with corruption, immorality, and sex slavery, rapes, and pedafilia. These Enemy are not nice people. They will not go peaceably.

    If Liberty was easy, we wouldn’t recognize it.

    Durruti

  73. Re: “The Best Guide for the Perplexed Progressive” by John V. Walsh

    Comment: “The Guide for the Perplexed”, by Moses Maimonides
    https://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/gfp/

    … is where Welsh plagiarized his title from.

    • Replies: @Stand-in
  74. Thirdeye says:

    Bernie started out great in 2016, but he had a couple of leadership faceplants. He needed to lay down the law on being cheated by the DNC – no support for their pre-selected candidate under any circumstances after their shenanigans, opprobrium from the party establishment be damned. He also pandered to the Woke brigades. He seemed to regret it later and decried the role identity politics played in the campaign, but he still hasn’t figured out a coherent response. Trump could take him apart over that if he doesn’t get it together pronto. So for now it’s Gabbard, keeping fingers crossed that she doesn’t repeat Bernie’s mistakes.

  75. Art says:

    Perfect is the enemy of good.

    Tulsi Gabbard is not perfect – but she is good. She is good because she is starting a genuine movement for peace – she is the premier voice for ending our regime change wars. God bless her for that.

    The enemies of peace are clamoring for an Iran war that could engulf the world. A WWI scenario could come about where country after country would be dragged into the war.

    It is true that she is a lefty – it is true that she does not hate Israel. It is true she does not like Saudi and maybe Iran. It is also true that she does not want a war between them all.

    It is true that she has not spoken her feelings about Israel and Palestine. It is true that she has wrongly voted against BDS and free speech.

    It is also true that the Jews hate and fear her words – look at how the Jew MSM immorally ignores her. Fear her not – the Jews will never let her become president.

    With all that said, Tulsi is a very savvy politician. She has been campaigning since she was a girl – she went from door to door campaigning with her father at a young age. She was elected to office at 21.

    In the first debate she earned the most attention. In the second debate she perplexed and befuddled Zilla Kamala. She scooped them all by buying a Tulsi 2020 advertisement from CNN during the debate – KUDOS KUDOS!

    All those who are convinced that she is a Zio/Jihadi/Hindu She-Devil, should go to Tulsi 2020 and donate a fiver – just so she can make the next debate interesting (she has 120,000 out of the 130,000 needed).

    Think Peace — Art

  76. Wally says:
    @onebornfree

    – I agree, big government is not good. I never said it was.
    No desperate strawman arguments, please.

    Fact:
    Trump has done nothing to increase the number of US government agencies.
    – I agree that the huge spending is bad, I suggest that you address the US Congress.

    Fact:
    I voted for Trump because the alternative was anti Euro white Hillary and her neo-Marxists … who would have expanded government control beyond your wildest dreams.
    No desperate strawman arguments, please.

    Fact:
    You criticize Trump, but not those who put us in this position to begin with.
    Revealing.
    – Show me better alternatives than Trump. Ah.

    Facts:

    Here’s How Much Red Tape Trump Has Cut: https://www.heritage.org/government-regulation/commentary/heres-how-much-red-tape-trump-has-cut
    Trump’s 60-point accomplishment list : https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/media-blackout-trumps-60-point-accomplishment-list-of-american-greatness
    Giving Trump’s accomplishments their due : https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/6/giving-trumps-accomplishments-their-due/

    • Replies: @renfro
  77. Republic says:
    @Art

    Tulsi new Kamala attack ad

    • Replies: @Art
  78. @Art

    It is true that she has wrongly voted against BDS and free speech.

    … a mistake she will never recover from.
    You know what they say: “ONE aw-shit cancels out a THOUSAND attaboys!”

  79. voicum says:
    @niteranger

    Enlightin us. What do you know about Marxism?

    • Replies: @niteranger
  80. voicum says:
    @follyofwar

    it is not trivial to be against regime change.what if regime change is applied to Russia and they are not taking it lightly?

    • Replies: @Professional Stranger
  81. I’d give Tulsi or Sanders a vote to get Trump the hell out, the guys a fucking moron, and a stooge for Israel Wall St and MIC. Tulsi has been pretty outspoken on Israel, no she ain’t perfect, unfortunately no one is, minus Ilhan. You guys all love Putin, he’s far more beholden to Israel than is Tulsi or Sanders. Sanders proposed last week pulling aid to Israel to get them to the table on peace, its a long shot but its something. Trump and Kushner basically told the Palestinians to eat shit. Maybe a commie Jew is what is needed to get the problem solved?

    Trump is far to divisive, runs his mouth like a 13 year old teenager, he refuses to address the actual causes of all the problems. I guess it works for the low IQ morons like most of the commentators here, and the brainwashed Fox news dupes. Most people see thru the right wing tactic of blaming poor people, Mexicans, and blacks for the gutting of the middle class. The old divide and rule tricks. Blaming China for the greed of American capitalists and corrupt politicians. I think Bernie could do a far better job.

    I believe that healthcare will decide the 2020 election. People are going bankrupt left and right over costs, losing their homes. The free college proposal won’t hurt either. What are Republicans talking about? A wall? Mr. Unz has explained the absurdity of that. Most illegals came here legally, a wall would make no difference. Trump wants more legal immigration, more H1B’s, he’s no different than most Dems and Repubs. Most people don’t give a shit about a wall. Abortion? Thats a tiny minority of the evangelicals that also think blowing up the world with nukes will make Jesus return. LOL.

    Legalizing cannabis is gonna help them too, at least let us get high and laugh while the ship sinks.
    Republicans offer nothing new, no solutions to anything. Tax the rich!

  82. Agent76 says:

    Jul 1, 2019 Democrat Calls On Tech Giants To Censor Conservatives Over Kamala Harris Debate

    Elizabeth Warren Calls On Big Tech To Censor Conservatives Over Kamala Harris Debate.

    Jun 29, 2019 Democrat Far Left Push Makes ‘Never Trumper’ Declare Support For Trump

    Democrat Far Left Push Makes ‘Never Trumper’ Declare Support For Trump. The Democrats are beyond losing their supporters. In one story published in the Wall Street journal a man who refused to vote for Trump in 2016 has now declared he will be supporting the president in 2020.

  83. @voicum

    follyofwar…talking about Tulsi’s vote against BDS. She lost a lot of support with that vote, support she can’t afford to lose.

    Voicum: it is not trivial to be against regime change ..

    Stranger: You miss the point.
    With the American voters, it is a huge error to be against free speech, for any reason.

    • Replies: @voicum
  84. @Art

    “Muh Perfect is the enemy of good!!”

    Americans love waving their pseudo-epiphanies in everyone’s face as if they’ve discovered some stunning revelation with which they’re going to magnanimously enlighten us all. It must be a left over from their puritanical days of throwing Bible verses in people’s faces as if casting a magic spell. Americans are God’s chosen people. It’s no wonder America is the mecca of self-help motivational sweet talk. Now whenever I go on YouTube I see this disease spreading in the from of incessant Ted Talks, Big Think, and Jocko Willink podcasts all to eager to tell me how to better live my life. Always an American doing the talking. Always an American lecturing us all on what we’re all doing wrong and how to make it all better again. Thank God. Everyone in America is a genius.
    It seems the more America fails the more Americans talk.
    Keep talking America.

  85. Art says:
    @Republic

    Thanks Republic — here is a good interview on CNN – Tulsi more then holds her own — Art

  86. @Anonymous

    You don’t get it. The author is a progtard. He’s giving Bernie props for being a true progtard. He’s also putting the same stink on little pizza face Gabbard, so that should clue you in that she doesn’t deserve your vote. Get it now?

  87. @voicum

    Perhaps you should enlighten us on what you know about Marxism…genius. Sanders has always been a Marxist…which planet do you live on Comrade Voicum.

    • Replies: @voicum
  88. renfro says:

    The Trump trolls game is starting ….bashing Bernie and Warren but praising Gabbard….but not because they want her elected, they want her to be the candidate because they dont think she can beat Trump….whereas they are afraid Bernie or Warren could.

    Twitter warns of “unusual activity” from rabidly pro-Trump created in April to boost alt-right attacks on Democrats, share anti-Muslim memes, blast Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and praise Tulsi Gabbard using the #TulsiOrTrump hashtag

    https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=4aFDXeGXJcqEtQWgwYCACg&q=Twitter+warns+of+%22unusual+activity%22+from+rabidly+pro-Trump&oq=Twitter+warns+of+%22unusual+activity%22+from+rabidly+pro-Trump&gs_l=psy-ab.12…4535.4535..12179…0.0..0.225.225.2-1……0….2j1..gws-wiz…..0.5xknfJBAdWM&ved=0ahUKEwihjPPmk-PjAhVKQq0KHaAgAKAQ4dUDCAs

    Example:
    ”You’re seeing this warning because there has been some unusual activity from this account. Do you still want to …”

    In other news…..rats deserting the ship….

    13 members of the House aren’t running for re-election. 10 are Republicans.
    4 Senators are not running for re-election. 3 are Republicans.

  89. renfro says:
    @obwandiyag

    “We can conclude that plunder of natural resources and the ability to externalize much of the cost have been major contributors right through the present day to the success of American capitalism.

    True and Trump has accelerated it.

  90. renfro says:
    @Kronos

    If it were painful to be stupid Trump would have no supporters.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  91. Stand-in says:
    @Professional Stranger

    Silly commenter. The title is an obvious reference to Maimonides.
    Only an idiot would mistake it for plagiarism.

    • Replies: @Professional Stranger
  92. renfro says:
    @Wally

    I could care less if Trump’s deregulations hurt you because you are incurably ignorant and lazy.
    But they do hurt other people and that is why your Trump trolling with Wall Street vulture supporting mags needs to be exposed.

    Trump’s Deregulations

    80% of them have been doing away with conservation measures, clean air requirments, public lands, Food Safety, Consumer Protection laws.

    Some that effect the public in less important way:

    Trump killed Net neutrality—-giving the current ‘Big Tech’ like goggle a monopoly so new inventors have no chance of getting in the business. Also means you will pay more , also means you could end up having to give companies like goggle even more personal information than you already do or pay a fee to opt out of having your information sold .

    Trump canceled the Fair Pay and Safe Workplaces rule. This rule barred companies with a history of wage, labor, and workplace safety violations from earning federal contracts valued at $500,000 or more.

    Trump also killed The Fiduciary Rule supposed to ensure financial advisors adhere to an “impartial conduct standard.” Which meant they must only charge reasonable fees, avoid misleading statements, and provide advice that is in the best interest of the investor.

    Trump also killed a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau arbitration rule that banned companies from using mandatory arbitration clauses that allowed consumers to engage in class action lawsuits.

    I could go on but people with a brain get the picture…the little people are screwed,the elite and vultures are free to ravage the population…and the earth.

    • Replies: @Wally
  93. Paw says:
    @Bill Jones

    Yea and with the great Sanders medical care !! Of course.
    Gabbard is a plastic PopPuppet and lightweight, just talk , no ideas ,as the others.
    Joe is sleazy ghost from the past and Warren forgot the 1/ 1024 part of tomahawk ..She is a totem and no one is dancing around…

  94. Kronos says:
    @renfro

    Would you care to elaborate?

  95. MB says: • Website

    On the Progressive Side were those who supported badly needed domestic reforms, most notably Medicare for All, which after all is a reform of almost 20% of the entire economy and a reform that has to do with life itself. In contrast on the Establishment side were those who supported ObamaCare, a device for leaving our health care to the tender mercies of the Insurance behemoths with its ever increasing premiums and ever decreasing coverage.

    But Medicare for All is not leaving our healthcare to the tender mercies of Government/Big Brother/Leviathan?

    Where did you get that koolaid?
    E. Germany or the Soviet Union?

    I know, all the European countries got govt. healthcare.
    Which is why the Canadians are down here in Washington when they can’t get in up there.
    Along with buying gas, milk and booze.
    Even with the exchange rate what it is.

    Funny how that “free” govt. stuff works.

  96. renfro says:
    @Common sense Joe

    Although not a Bernie supporter myself I feel the need to correct mental midgets like yourself.

    As Mayor:
    Sanders’s administration balanced the city budget and drew a minor league baseball team, the Vermont Reds, then the Double-A affiliate of the Cincinnati Reds, to Burlington. Under his leadership Burlington sued the local television cable franchise, winning reduced rates for customers.
    As mayor Sanders led extensive downtown revitalization projects. One of his primary achievements was the improvement of Burlington’s Lake Champlain waterfront.[13] In 1981 Sanders campaigned against the unpopular plans by Burlington developer Tony Pomerleau to convert the then-industrial waterfront property owned by the Central Vermont Railway into expensive condominiums, hotels, and offices. Sanders ran under the slogan “Burlington is not for sale” and successfully supported a plan that redeveloped the waterfront area into a mixed-use district featuring housing, parks, and public space. Today the waterfront area includes many parks and miles of public beach and bike paths, a boathouse, and a science center.

    As for Socialism:

    ”In defining what democratic socialism means to him, Sanders said: “I don’t believe government should take over the grocery store down the street or own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a decent standard of living and that their incomes should go up, not down. I do believe in private companies that thrive and invest and grow in America, companies that create jobs here, rather than companies that are shutting down in America and increasing their profits by exploiting low-wage labor abroad.” Based on Sanders’s positions and votes throughout his political career, Noam Chomsky and Thomas Frank have described Sanders as “a New Dealer”.
    Others say his positions are more ‘reformist capitalism’ .

    Real Socialists Think Bernie’s a Sellout
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/real-socialists-think-bernies-a-sellout

  97. @Stand-in

    Stranger:

    Re: “The Best Guide for the Perplexed Progressive” by John V. Walsh

    Comment: “The Guide for the Perplexed”, by Moses Maimonides
    https://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/gfp/
    … is where Welsh plagiarized his title from.

    Stand-in:

    Silly commenter. The title is an obvious reference to Maimonides.
    Only an idiot would mistake it for plagiarism.

    Stranger: It’s still plagiarism no matter how many people recognize the source. But the point here is: a lot of readers in this general audience would not recognizes that source.

    Stand-in:

    Silly … idiot…

    Ad hominem nonsense.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  98. Does the US have a Ruling Class or a Ruling Tribe?

  99. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Yes, Tulsi’s political savvy is truly impressive. Also her composure under pressure. Do you notice how her personality is gaining power? (She also has a stylist who’s beefing up the warpaint.)

    She got a huge PR boost from ripping Kamala. Well done!

    • Replies: @Art
  100. @Art

    Tulsi Gabbard is not perfect – but she is good. She is good because she is starting a genuine movement for peace – she is the premier voice for ending our regime change wars. God bless her for that.

    As with the “America First” Orange Fugazi, little men with propeller-less beanies will already have President Gabbard’s new syllabus waiting on the Oval Office desk. “Peace” won’t be on it.

  101. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Professional Stranger

    Please — allusion like this isn’t “plagiarism.” Your comment seems even more petty with your defensiveness about it. Why did you post it to begin with?

    • Replies: @Professional Stranger
  102. Tulsi sure ripped old Kamala a new one last night. What do you make of that?

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @alexander
  103. RobinG says:
    @Stonewall Jackson

    Steel. (Like a terrible swift sword.)

    Van Jones: Tulsi Has No Fear

  104. alexander says:
    @Stonewall Jackson

    Tulsi is on Fire !

    She has been hitting it out of the ball park every time she ‘s come up to bat .

    It is like she is running this race as the American Peoples , back of the pack, “dark horse”…vs. the ESTABLISHMENTS bought and paid for “crony ” Puppets …..

    Americans can SENSE it….and thousands upon thousands are joining in, everyday …. she has their spirit behind her….and she is on the MOVE !!

    I hope she takes the nomination ……..by a landslide !

    Go Tulsi !

    GO!

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Justvisiting
  105. RobinG says:
    @alexander

    Have you seen Kim Iversen? I’m posting this because [at 14 min.] she has a clip of Tulsi NOT TAKING SHIT from a very obnoxious MSNBC ‘news’ anchor. I started to watch the whole segment at their site, but it froze and then I couldn’t find it, even wonder if they took it down.

    The Battle Rages On Between Kamala Harris and Tulsi Gabbard

    • Replies: @alexander
  106. @alexander

    Your enthusiasm is commendable–been there, done that…

    when I was a college student. 🙁

    Political success and merit are _very_ distant cousins.

    We live in a kleptocracy–and Tulsi will be blackmailed and/or bribed by our real rulers if she ever gets any traction anywhere (outside of your imagination).

    Despite the terrible start to her campaign I am still predicting whore anti-white racist Kamala will get the black primary vote and the nomination.

    • Replies: @alexander
  107. voicum says:
    @Professional Stranger

    So regime changing and wars are OK with American people ?

    • Replies: @Professional Stranger
  108. voicum says:
    @niteranger

    You did not replay to my comment. It was YOU who brought Marx in the discussion so i am waiting…..

    • Replies: @niteranger
  109. @anonymous

    YESTERDAY RECAP
    Stranger:

    Re: “The Best Guide for the Perplexed Progressive” by John V. Walsh

    Comment: “The Guide for the Perplexed”, by Moses Maimonides
    https://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/gfp/
    … is where Welsh plagiarized his title from.

    Stand-in:

    Silly commenter. The title is an obvious reference to Maimonides.
    Only an idiot would mistake it for plagiarism.

    Stranger:

    It’s still plagiarism no matter how many people recognize the source. But the point here is: a lot of readers in this general audience would not recognizes that source.

    Stand-in:

    Silly … idiot…

    Stranger:

    Ad hominem nonsense.

    TODAY NEW
    Anonymous[304] (same guy hiding under a new ID! LOL! Probably Welsh defending his own article, undercover!)
    [[allusion like this isn’t “plagiarism.”]]

    Stranger:
    Yes it is!
    [(https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarizing
    Definition of plagiarize
    transitive verb
    : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one’s own : use (another’s production) without crediting the source
    intransitive verb
    : to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source]]
    … matches perfectly!

    Anon[304]

    Your comment seems even more petty with your defensiveness about it. Why did you post it to begin with?

    Stranger: MORE ad-hominem nonsense!

  110. The voters argue over the merits of candidates while the rich laugh at them. The more money Lockheed and Boeing give Bernie and Tulsi the more peaceful they become.

  111. dfordoom says: • Website
    @niteranger

    There are no progressives….they are Marxists no matter how you cut it.

    Still looking for commies under the bed?

  112. renfro says:

    Candidate info…

    Rumor is Jeff Zucker of CNN probably did more to advance Ms Harris’s career than anyone. He was introducing her to big-wigs and pushing her candidacy. Word is she is Zucker’s choice for 2020. Look for all the minions on CNN to dutifully back her without question.

    Harris’s Husband:….Jewish lawyer

    Douglas Emhoff, “Represents large domestic and international corporations and some of today’s highest profile individuals and influencers in complex business, real estate and intellectual property litigation disputes.”

    Kamala Harris’ Husband Doug Emhoff Is Our Hot Jewish Dad Crush
    https://forward.com/schmooze/426918/who-is-joe-bidens-new-jewish-daughter-in-law-melissa-cohen/

  113. renfro says:

    Biden info…

    Son married Jewish girl, daughter married Jewishh man \/b>
    https://forward.com/schmooze/426918/who-is-joe-bidens-new-jewish-daughter-in-law-melissa-cohen/

    Joe Biden’s Daughter Marries Jewish Doctor – The Forward
    https://forward.com/schmooze/157249/joe-bidens-daughter-marries-jewish-doctor/

    How Biden went from in debt senator and VP to multi millionaire

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/once-the-poorest-senator-middle-class-joe-biden-has-reaped-millions-in-income-since-leaving-the-vice-presidency/2019/06/25/931458a8-938d-11e9-b570-6416efdc0803_story.html?utm_term=.7a7a9fae6215&noredirect=on

    I haven’t researched to see if Biden’s Jews are good Jews or bad Zionist…but the fact that his wife is Jewish and all in laws are Jewish gives me pause. I think Biden is too much like Trump when it comes to ‘family’.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  114. alexander says:
    @Justvisiting

    You are more than welcome to jump for joy at the thought of a Kamala Presidency.

    My feeling is that she is a total dud (with a thud) and would be a loathsome President.

    Stinky, stinky -p00.

    Eeks…Uhg…..and….

    No thank you!

    She’s not getting my vote.

    Tulsi , on the other hand, is a breath of fresh air, not just for the DNC , but for the entire country.

    Integrity, smarts, valor, and a certain “je ne sais quoi” goes a long way .

    She’s got it all…

    I think she is going to win the whole thing….by a country mile.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  115. Wally says:
    @renfro

    Yawn. Another “global cooling”, “global warming”, “climate change”, “climate emergency” AOC styled Marxist loser who just doesn’t want to work for a living.

    https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthepeoplescube.com%2Fimages%2FAOC_Gravy_Train.jpg&f=1

    – What “clean air requirements has he supposedly “hurt people” with, comrade? The Paris Accords scam?
    – What “public land” deregulations has he supposedly “hurt people” with, comrade?
    – What “food safety ” deregulations has he supposedly “hurt people” with, comrade?

    – The falsely labeled “net neutrality” as a tool of big government.
    Net Neutrality Is A Poor Solution To The Wrong Problem: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2017/07/16/net-neutrality-is-a-poor-solution-to-the-wrong-problem/#71be18338988
    Net Neutrality’ Is a Problem, Not a Solution: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/02/25/net-neutrality-is-a-problem-not-a-solution/
    exc.: “The oldest trick in the collectivist playbook is to create a problem through government regulations, let it stew for a while, and then propose even bigger government as the only possible solution to the “crisis” it planted, nourished, and harvested”

    – Obama’s Big Leftist Government’s so called’ Fair Pay and Safe Workplaces rules’, correctly tossed out, Big Lawsut Lawyers upset, good/

    Trump Order Drops Pesky Regulations On Equal Pay, Sexual Harassment: https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/04/04/trump-order-drops-pesky-regulations-on-equal-pay-sexual-harassment/#3df177d65c10
    “The rule simply made it too easy for trial lawyers to go after American companies and American workers who contract with the federal government,” Spicer said. “The president saw that workers, tax and businesses truly suffered under this rule.”

    – Obama’s ‘Fiduciary Rule’, another neo-Marxist Big Government seizure of power was correctly ditched. Communist go wild. The ‘rule’ would have limited investment options for IRA holders.
    Which of course Communists do not have.

    Trump, The Fiduciary Rule And Your IRA: https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2017/02/03/trump-the-fiduciary-rule-and-your-ira/#123a46f24a3c

    – Consumer Financial Protection Bureau another scam Big Government by anti-business Marxists.
    he consumer has coutless option to address any alleged grievance.

  116. @alexander

    In a democracy, she would win it all. But not in the “Democratic” party and not in the US. Just wait and see.

  117. @voicum

    follyofwar…talking about Tulsi’s vote against BDS. She lost a lot of support with that vote, support she can’t afford to lose.

    Voicum: it is not trivial to be against regime change ..

    Stranger: You miss the point.
    With the American voters, it is a huge error to be against free speech, for any reason.

    Voicum: So regime changing and wars are OK with American people ?

    Stranger: They have a long tradition of not surrendering free-speech in exchange for promises from lefties that it’s all for their own good. For example: a Founding Father of the United States,
    Benjamin Franklin, once said: “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

  118. alan2102 says:
    @onebornfree

    “Historically, government solutions have never worked.”

    Such utter drivel. Big government has delivered big solutions to big problems for generations. Social Security nearly wiped out elder poverty. Medicare keeps millions from literally dying in the streets. The interstate highway system was essential for economic development. And so on, and so on.

  119. RobinG says:
    @renfro

    Whatever for, Biden stinks. Tulsi hasn’t called him out yet. Could it be, she’s saving him for last because he offers the biggest target?

    ” “It was not just the matter that he was among the right-wing minority of Democrats to vote for the war authorization as Bush requested. Biden had actually called for ‘boots on the ground’ to remove Saddam Hussein as far back as 1998. As head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 2002 prior to the war vote, he only allowed a day and a half of hearings and stacked the testimony heavily in favor of war supporters. He continued to defend Bush’s decision to go to war even after he acknowledged that his claims about Iraq having chemical weapons, biological weapons, a nuclear program, and sophisticated delivery systems were all untrue. Scores of prominent Middle East specialists from academia and the Foreign Service briefed him and his staff that an invasion of Iraq beforehand would be illegal, unnecessary, and a total disaster, yet he voted for it anyway. He very well could get us into another similar tragedy.”

    Biden’s Deceits…..
    http://accuracy.org/release/bidens-deceits-on-busing-iraq-war/

    • Replies: @Art
  120. sally says:
    @obwandiyag

    You have confused Capitalism with Monopolism..
    Capitalism requires to be effective total government control over the field of play.. they must empire the entire game and punish and remove players that violate the rules of fair play and true competition.

    Monopolism is unsupervised play in economic space and requires that the laws of the government be used to establish, maintain and enforce the monopolies against all competition not only to make money with the monopoly but also to use copyright, patents and private property laws to block the rise of competition.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @onebornfree
  121. Art says:
    @RobinG

    Yes, Tulsi’s political savvy is truly impressive. Also her composure under pressure. Do you notice how her personality is gaining power?

    Hi RobinG,

    You took the words out of my mouth. In her early videos, Tulsi’s voice was much slower and softer. Now she has picked up her cadence and her videos come across as more of a political rally. It is working.

    Tulsi Gabbard has arrived. The NYT, Washington Post, NPR, and MSNBC are all attacking her with very negative articles.

    NYT – “Tulsi says we are doomed”

    WP – “Tulsi says Trump feeding Al-Qaeda through Saudi”

    NPR – “Will Tulsi ever go to war”

    NBC – “Tulsi accuses MSNBC of using Kamala Zilla’s talking points.”

    Hmm – Trumpy is the smart one – no tweets against Tulsi.

    Art

    p.s. Twitter – “Tulsi – Russian bot”

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  122. Art says:
    @RobinG

    Whatever for, Biden stinks. Tulsi hasn’t called him out yet. Could it be, she’s saving him for last because he offers the biggest target?

    RobinG,

    Maybe by not trashing Biden, she is saving the VP slot for herself. It looks like Biden is going to win the nomination. Except for Tulsi (and Delany) all the others are just not presidential material. They could never beat Trump. Who would want Kamala or Booty representing America?

    Biden/Gabbard — Win or lose – Tulsi would be the nominee in 2024.

    Art

    • Replies: @alexander
  123. @voicum

    Here you go genius: from Wikipedia and if you know what your socialist friend Bernie believes in you’ll get it. But I doubt it because you are nothing but a clown troll:

    Marxism is a theory and method of working-class self-emancipation. As a theory, it relies on a method of socioeconomic analysis that views class relations and social conflict using a materialist interpretation of historical development and takes a dialectical view of social transformation. It originates from the works of 19th-century German philosophers Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.

    Marxism uses a methodology, now known as historical materialism, to analyze and critique the development of class society and especially of capitalism as well as the role of class struggles in systemic economic, social, and political change. According to Marxist theory, in capitalist societies, class conflict arises due to contradictions between the material interests of the oppressed and exploited proletariat—a class of wage labourers employed to produce goods and services—and the bourgeoisie—the ruling class that owns the means of production and extracts its wealth through appropriation of the surplus product produced by the proletariat in the form of profit.

    This class struggle that is commonly expressed as the revolt of a society’s productive forces against its relations of production, results in a period of short-term crises as the bourgeoisie struggle to manage the intensifying alienation of labor experienced by the proletariat, albeit with varying degrees of class consciousness. In periods of deep crisis, the resistance of the oppressed can culminate in a proletarian revolution which, if victorious, leads to the establishment of socialism—a socioeconomic system based on social ownership of the means of production, distribution based on one’s contribution and production organized directly for use. As the productive forces continued to advance, Marx hypothesized that socialism would ultimately be transformed into a communist society: a classless, stateless, humane society based on common ownership and the underlying principle: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”.

    Marxism has developed into many different branches and schools of thought, with the result that there is now no single definitive Marxist theory.[1] Different Marxian schools place a greater emphasis on certain aspects of classical Marxism while rejecting or modifying other aspects. Many schools of thought have sought to combine Marxian concepts and non-Marxian concepts, which has then led to contradictory conclusions.[2] However, lately there is movement toward the recognition that historical materialism and dialectical materialism remains the fundamental aspect of all Marxist schools of thought.[3] Marxism has had a profound impact on global academia and has influenced many fields such as archaeology, anthropology,[4] media studies,[5] political science, theater, history, sociology, art history and theory, cultural studies, education, economics, ethics, criminology, geography, literary criticism, aesthetics, film theory, critical psychology and philosophy.

  124. @sally

    I haven’t confused anything. You are the confused one.

  125. @onebornfree

    Libertarians are just defenders of the rights of billionaires who want poor people to starve.

    They’re mostly just conservatives who want to smoke dope and watch strippers.

    And they actually think they “earn” the money they make. Hardehar.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  126. alexander says:
    @Art

    The country is now 22.5 trillion dollars in heinous debt because Biden (among others) lied us into an illegal war .

    Nobody is voting for that guy.

    Nobody.

    America has had ENOUGH of this crap.

    Time to “clean house”…from stem to stern.

    Tulsi…. straight on to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue !

  127. alexander says:
    @RobinG

    Kim is great !

    Tulsi should make her our ambassador to the UN….once she takes the White House .

    New dawn….new Era……..

    America …is BACK !

    • Replies: @RobinG
  128. @Art

    Imho the MSM and other coordinated attacks on Tulsi are best understand as a warning to the other candidates–support war everywhere and forever or we will declare war on you, everywhere and forever.

    That is how they control the Overton Window–and control of the Overton Window is _far_ more important than the fate of any individual candidate.

    • Replies: @Art
  129. onebornfree says: • Website
    @alan2102

    alan2102 says: “Such utter drivel. Big government has delivered big solutions to big problems for generations. Social Security nearly wiped out elder poverty. Medicare keeps millions from literally dying in the streets. The interstate highway system was essential for economic development. And so on, and so on.”

    All you’ve done here via that statement is to confirm that you are, just like 99% of the posters here, a total moron. Thanks for that 🙂

    No regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Anounder
  130. onebornfree says: • Website
    @sally

    “Capitalism requires to be effective total government control over the field of play..”

    No, you got it bassackwards. Capitalism ideally requires no “government control over the field of play”.

    “Regards”, onebornfree

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @renfro
    , @Anounder
  131. onebornfree says: • Website
    @obwandiyag

    And yet another frickin’ know-nothing little twerp opens his /her worthless, commie, piehole .

    And so it goes….

    No regards onebornfree

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @renfro
  132. Art says:

    Polls!

    Gabbard 0% – Gabbard 1%

    How can this be after this week’s Dem debate. Gabbard was the show. She set social media talking. Surly, five or ten percent of the Dems find Tulsi’s distaste for war appealing? Surly a significant percentage of Americans would give her a bump in the polls for her efforts.

    In the last few days, every major news source controlled by the Jews has been trashing her! Is their anti-Tulsi rhetoric and propaganda working?

    Are the Jews once again successfully turning America against itself?

    If Tulsi is truly at 0% in the polls, then there is no hope for America.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Art
  133. RobinG says:
    @alexander

    Did you see this in the NYT? Is it a subtle hit piece? Authors often do not choose the title, so I won’t (necessarily) blame her for that. But if it’s clickbait, fine, any publicity ….. And she mentions Quincy Institute. What’s your take?

    Tulsi Gabbard Thinks We’re Doomed
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tulsi-gabbard-thinks-were-doomed/ar-AAFfxyX?ocid=ientp

    • Replies: @alexander
  134. RobinG says:
    @Art

    The thing about polls is that people negotiate with themselves before answering. I.E. they may like Tulsi, but they’ll tell themselves she has no chance, so they name someone else.

    But that’s not to claim the polls aren’t fixed in some other way.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @alexander
  135. Art says:
    @Art

    For 100% sure – the Jew Empire is coming for Tulsi Gabbard. The Jew MIC and the Jew MSM fear her.

    This critique never uses the “J” word – but it is the invisible divisive mendacious brute monster in the article.

    The Empire Is Coming for Tulsi Gabbard

    yada…

    Gabbard’s takedown of Harris was so spot on and her closing statement about the irresponsible nature of the Trump Administration’s foreign policy was so powerful she had to be actively suppressed on Twitter.

    And, within minutes of the debate ending the media and the political machines moved into overdrive to smear her as a Russian agent, an Assad apologist and a favorite of the alt-right.

    yada…

    No, the fact that Gabbard is being smeared as viciously and baselessly as she is by all the right people on both the left and the right is all the proof you need that she is 1) the real deal and 2) they are scared of her.

    When Lindsey Graham tweets about Tulsi Gabbard twice after a debate, when the Washington Post neocons like Josh Rogin are attacking her, you know she’s got their panties in a bunch.

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/08/02/empire-coming-for-tulsi-gabbard/

    • Replies: @renfro
  136. Art says:
    @RobinG

    they may like Tulsi, but they’ll tell themselves she has no chance, so they name someone else.

    RobibG,

    That is exactly my point – the Jew media is 24/7 saying she cannot win. They are in the business of killing hope.

    On the NYT “Doomed” article – it is not ADL boilerplate – but it is one line after another of couched attacks on her different policies, implying she is a little nutty and un-America. “Nutty” is a standard Jew 101 attack.

    Art

  137. Art says:
    @Justvisiting

    That is how they control the Overton Window–and control of the Overton Window is _far_ more important than the fate of any individual candidate.

    Justvisiting — thanks – Overton Window is very interesting — Art

  138. @Art

    The Overton window, also known as the window of discourse, is the range of ideas the public will accept. It is used by media pundits. The term is named after Joseph P. Overton, who stated that an idea’s political viability depends mainly on whether it falls within this range, rather than on politicians’ individual preferences. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

    Joseph P. Overton (Born Jan 4 1960; Died Jun 30 2003, at age 43) was a Senior Vice President of the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.

  139. @onebornfree

    Typical libertarian. Beer-swilling uncontrolled fratboy-type sociopath. Not really conservative at all. Except when it comes to fucking over poor people.

  140. RobinG says:
    @Art

    They want to close that Window on Israel >> which is just as important as the 3rd rail of Empire. So we need to push it farther open.

    This from mondoweiss –
    Tulsi Gabbard voted to condemn BDS, but she’s become a cosponsor of Ilhan Omar’s boycott bill
    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/08/gabbard-condemn-cosponsor/

    And this [on Syria] from Committee on East-West Accord
    Re-posting: Interview with Tulsi Gabbard
    https://eastwestaccord.com/re-posting-interview-with-tulsi-gabbard/

    • Replies: @Art
  141. renfro says:
    @onebornfree

    You are idiot …and I say that sincerely.

  142. renfro says:
    @Art

    the Jew Empire

    The Jew empire is having a bit of trouble…no one but the US will move its embassy to Jerusalem.
    So they are trying to bribe some third world countries into putting embassies there……LOL….no body loves them….boo hoo hoo, it must be anti-Semitism.

    Israel will pay countries that are willing to relocate their embassies from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. |
    Photo: Reuters
    Published 28 July 2019

    ”Israeli Foreign Minister Yisrael Katz will propose to give an aid package worth US$14.2 million to countries in exchange for their embassies’ relocation to Jerusalem.

    The Israeli government will pay foreign countries to relocate their embassies from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem according to a new initiative to be presented by Foreign Minister Yisrael Katz to the cabinet soon according to a report by Israel Hayom published Sunday.

    RELATED:
    Palestine Lauds Czech Refusal to Move Embassy to Jerusalem

    The initiative is considered a “national, diplomatic and strategic objective of the highest order.” Under it, Katz formed incentive packages to encourage the countries to move embassies.
    Katz, according to the report, came upon the knowledge that when foreign countries relocate their embassies, they seek something in return from Israel. For example, Honduras and El Salvador wanted Israel to open full diplomatic missions in their own countries in exchange for the embassy move.
    Some countries demanded economic aid from Israel, some hoped an embassy move would help with closer ties to the United States, and some countries even asked Israel to pay the relocation costs. ”

    • Replies: @annamaria
  143. renfro says:
    @onebornfree

    You need to give it a rest. I looked at your web site which offers financial counseling and your 6 other blogs which have not much to nothing in them. ….you say you’ve been blogging since 2005 but you have only two followers of your web site.

    Also I hope the two girls in this picture are your daughters and you’re not pretending to be a financial wizard a ‘la Jeffery Epstein to attract girls.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  144. alexander says:
    @RobinG

    Hi, Robin,

    I think Tulsi, as President , is the greatest single threat to anyone who has (or seeks to) defraud the American People into illegal war of aggression.

    Since it has become painfully clear to all, the New York Times was among numerous news outlets
    who conspired to defraud the American People into the catastrophic Iraq war of 2003, I would imagine its owners perceive a Tulsi Presidency with great trepidation.

    They do NOT want to be held accountable for the crimes they have committed against the American People..or the world……so they will seek to “derail” her nomination.

    Ergo…the “hit piece”.

    It is my firm belief that in the REAL WORLD (as opposed to the tainted DNC’s), Tulsi is polling (at least) five times higher than everyone else.

    She is perhaps the most refreshing and exciting candidate the country has seen , in the longest time .

    I hope to God …it is she, who is sitting in the Oval Office on 1/ 21/21.

    I am also a firm believer that everyone involved in LYING US INTO WAR ,should be held accountable for their deceptions, …and as painful as it is to say,….. The New York Times is no exception.

    May I add, that as one American who stands, shoulder to shoulder , with (at least) three hundred million more , I WILL NOT Bear the burden of the cost of THEIR LIES,… before they do.

    ” No taxation without representation”

    Make ’em pay…the whole damn way !

  145. onebornfree says: • Website
    @renfro

    Thanks for the free ad, but none-the-less: get lost, loser. 🙂

    No regards, onebornfree

  146. alexander says:
    @RobinG

    FYI,

    Tulsi got over 34,000,000 hits on Google in the last 30 days “alone”.

    This is even “after” Googles best attempts to block and stymie .

    Need I remind you this is over 10% of the entire US population…. and she is just getting started.

    • Replies: @alexander
  147. alexander says:
    @alexander

    Correction.

    I just queried again…and it is 48,800,000 …..as of three minutes ago.

  148. Art says:
    @RobinG

    They want to close that Window on Israel >> which is just as important as the 3rd rail of Empire. So we need to push it farther open.

    RobinG,

    Jews are the masters of word play. They use words to suppress America’s culture. Pushing open the Overton Window on the Jews means one thing – freely using the word “Jew”. When they can suppress that word – they win. It has come to be, that in America only the Jews themselves can say “Jew.”

    Tribal Jews pathologically fear the word “Jew” being used by gentiles. That fear runs deep in their psyche and culture. Keeping the word “Jew” out of human discourse is word game number one. A gentile speaking the word sends irrational shivers down their spine.

    Of course, when they can suppress the use of the word – they as a tribe, become free to collaborate and cheat. 109 times Jews have been rationally removed from different cultures, due largely to their dishonest word play.

    Without question UR has opened the window of freedom on the use of the word “Jew.”

    Only when that freedom spreads, will the threat and menace of Jew suppression abate.

    Clearly, America cannot allow the sick Jew psyche to dominate our country.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  149. annamaria says:
    @Kronos

    The well-deserved flogging of the perfidious DNC and DNC-connected presstitutes: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/07/31/assa-j31.html?fbclid=IwAR0Iz2If7UkhI27QrusNJ8do3p8fMWo0HBQ_XV-nVo-uiPYVXZTTyhGDJBI

    “If WikiLeaks could be held liable for publishing documents concerning the DNC’s political financial and voter-engagement strategies simply because the DNC labels them ‘secret’ and trade secrets, then so could any newspaper or other media outlet.” …

    The plaintiff in the civil case—the Democratic Party—has served as Assange’s chief prosecutor within the state apparatus for over a decade. … The criminal prosecution of Assange has nothing to do with facts and is instead aimed at punishing him for telling the truth about the war crimes committed by US imperialism and its allies.

    … the DNC’s argument that Assange and WikiLeaks “conspired with the Russian Federation to steal and disseminate the DNC’s materials” is “entirely divorced from the facts.” The judge further ruled that the court “is not required to accept conclusory allegations asserted as facts.”

    At the time the DNC filed its complaint, the New York Times wrote that the document relies on “publicly-known facts” as well as “information that has been disclosed in news reports and subsequent court proceedings.” The DNC’s baseless complaint cited the New York Times eight times as “proof” of Assange and WikiLeaks’ ties to Russia, including articles by Times reporters Andrew Kramer, Michael Gordon, Niraj Chokshi, Sharon LaFraniere, K.K. Rebecca Lai, Eric Lichtblau, Noah Weiland, Alicia Parlapiano and Ashley Parker, as well as a July 26, 2016 article by Charlie Savage.

    Assange versus a bunch of sleazebags of PC-“progressive” persuasion.

  150. dfordoom says: • Website
    @alan2102

    “Historically, government solutions have never worked.”

    Such utter drivel. Big government has delivered big solutions to big problems for generations. Social Security nearly wiped out elder poverty. Medicare keeps millions from literally dying in the streets. The interstate highway system was essential for economic development. And so on, and so on.

    Agreed.

    Sometimes it’s hard to know if libertarians are breathtakingly dishonest or just breathtakingly deluded. How is it possible to be so utterly disconnected from reality?

    They’re cultists. They simply ignore any evidence that conflicts with the beliefs of the cult.

    • Agree: RobinG
    • Replies: @Anounder
  151. Anounder says:
    @onebornfree

    Still waiting for you to show those self-funded roads.

  152. Anounder says:
    @onebornfree

    There is no society that successfully industrialized without the state.

    • Agree: annamaria
  153. Anounder says:
    @onebornfree

    The Founding Fathers didn’t want men without property to vote or for non-Whites to be citizens. When do you plan to advocate lowering the franchise and deportations.

  154. Anounder says:
    @alan2102

    The state enforced segregation and other policies to keep non-Whites away from Whites. Considering how disaterous integration and Civil Rights were I’d say that was good intervention.

  155. Anounder says:
    @dfordoom

    Liberterians would oppose regulations banning public expressions of homosexuality and banning interactions between the races outside of designated zones.

  156. annamaria says:
    @renfro

    Realpolitik: https://thesaker.is/attack-on-iran-would-be-an-attack-on-russia/

    What Russian National Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev said at the recent trilateral alongside White House national security adviser John Bolton and Israeli National Security Council Adviser Meir Ben-Shabbat in Jerusalem:
    “Iran has always been and remains our ally and partner, with which we are consistently developing relations both on a bilateral basis and within multilateral formats.”

    Meanwhile, the underwear guy Eliot Higgins (a cherished Expert at the Atlantic Council) has generated 4.000 words “unmasking” Tulsi Gabbard and her support for President Assad.
    Someone should direct Eliot Higgins to this discovery: https://www.fort-russ.com/2019/08/major-syrian-army-discovers-us-missiles-in-terrorists-depot/

    The Syrian Army discovered a large volume of weapons and ammunition, including US-made missiles, from arms depot in formerly-held positions of the terrorists in the southern part of Syria.

    The Syrian Army’s engineering units found a large cache containing different combat rifles, over 200,000 bullets, large amount of canons, mortar rounds and US TOW missiles together with launching-pads.

    Squeal, Eliot Higgins, squeal — attract more attention to your handlers at the Atlantic Council. https://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/06/medias-beloved-expert-higgins-wrong-again-and-again-and-again.html

    Among the main contributors to the Atlantic Council are British Foreign and Commonwealth Office, Embassy of the United Arab Emirates to the United States, Facebook, Inc., Abu Dhabi National Oil Company, Chevron Corporation, et al. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/support/supporters

  157. Art says:

    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/AP_19213157022958_edited.jpg?itok=m9QJV-yA

    Tulsi Gabbard Challenges Foreign-Policy Assumptions And Moves The Overton Window
    Profile picture for user Tyler Durden

    by Tyler Durden
    Sat, 08/03/2019 – 21:30

    …. …. …. ….

    Tulsi Gabbard has moved the Overton window on what is acceptable discussion when it comes to U.S. foreign policy. She has punctured the rose-tinted narrative being constructed around establishment favorites like Harris. This has not endeared her to mainstream pundits like Cooper of CNN or Brian Williams of CNBC. To understand her actual positions on the U.S. role in Syria, Kim Iverson’s interview with her exemplifies how mainstream pundits should be doingtheir jobs.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-03/tulsi-gabbard-challenges-foreign-policy-assumptions-and-moves-overton-window

    Thanks Tulsi — you are freedoms sister!

  158. Anounder says:
    @onebornfree

    https://socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html

    [MORE]

    https://bradleyahansen.blogspot.com/search?q=STATE

    https://medium.com/@MarkKoyama/revisiting-epsteins-freedom-and-growth-d1c735c28d1c

    http://www.enlightenmenteconomics.com/blog/index.php/2019/07/an-adam-smith-for-our-times/

    https://voxeu.org/article/historical-view-government-defaults-lessons-17th-century

    https://voxeu.org/article/leaderless-global-economy-can-economic-history-suggest-lessons

    https://voxeu.org/article/debt-miracle-why-country-borrowed-most-industrialised-first

    https://nephist.wordpress.com/2014/10/12/failed-by-economicgrowth/

    http://positivecheck.blogspot.com/2019/01/economic-consequences-of-state-failure.html#comment-form

    https://ehsthelongrun.net/2018/01/30/the-public-works-loan-board-and-the-growth-of-the-state-in-nineteenth-century-england/

    http://themillionhistory.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-keynesian-and-monetarist-policy-of.html

    All of the approve is enough to send your babble to the trash where it belongs.

  159. Anounder says:
    @VFY

    Let me guess: You blame Da Government/Unions for how dysfunctional non-Asian Minorities *(crime, low performance in education, etc.) are. And also pretend that there is nothing about Libertarianism that makes it repellent to non-Whites by their nature.

  160. Art says:
    @Art

    Tulsi kicked the Overton window open at the debate. She was the bright star!

    Since then the Jew MSM are doing their best to close the window on Gabbard. In the first 24 hours after the debate, they trashed her with a phalanx of negative articles – now the strategy is to kill her by ignoring her.

    I fear that they will keep her out of the next debate. She needs 4 polls with 2% to progress.

    Gabbard is advertising on Drudge and YouTube. Money may be her only hope.

    Reopen the window to freedom – go to Tulsi 2020!

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