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Lauren Southern, with MAGA helmet, on the front lines at Berkeley.
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Weimerica” is a common term for neoreactionaries and right wingers disgusted with the decadent culture and self-hatred of the modern United States. But it took on a whole new meaning Saturday when street fighting between organized groups of the Left and the Right broke out in Berkeley, California as antifa tried to shut down a free speech rally. And by all accounts, it was the nationalists who came out on top.

Naturally, the Main Stream Media is outraged. The same people who were feting antifa violence at the inauguration and writing puff pieces about the Black Blocs are demanding a crackdown. One Shane Bauer of Mother Jones spent the day chronicling the Left’s defeat and occupied himself the following morning screaming for everyone (including President Trump) to condemn the right wing protesters. Of course, it was Mother Jones which wrote a gushing article about antifa just after Richard Spencer was sucker punched. [The Long History of “Nazi Punching,” by Wes Enzinna, Mother Jones, January 26, 2017]

The MSM seems utterly determined to ignore the core truth at the heart of the violence in Berkeley—it was the antifa who showed up determined to cause trouble and deny others their right to free speech. Indeed, this is the only thing antifa ever do, the sole purpose of their entire existence. All antifa had to do to avoid violence was to not show up, much like there were no conservatives or nationalists attacking the tax protests against Donald Trump which took place around the country yesterday—nor, for that matter, the much-hyped post-Inauguration “Women’s March.”

Conservatives and libertarians were attempting to hold a “Free Speech Rally” in the Leftist city in protest of several recent incidents when violent CultMarx totalitarians used force against words they didn’t agree with [Free Speech Rally in Berkeley results in several injuries, 20 arrests, Daily Californian, April 15, 2017]

An antifa flyer reportedly circulated before the event

Saturday, however, was different. Antifa has been quite open about their desire to “shut down” the rally [Why The Bay Area Must Shut Down the Alt-Right Rally on April 15th, IndyBay, April 5, 2017]. So nationalists came prepared for violence, knowing the police would not protect them. And that’s precisely what happened—it just didn’t end the way antifa thought it would.

In short, Leftists started it, Rightists finished it.

What is really happening here: the American Right is finally learning to fight back, both ideologically and physically. They are breaking the taboos of the past. And powered by the freewheeling internet culture that spawned the new nationalism, the Trump supporters who rolled out to defend conservative speakers were dressed in colorful, often humorous costumes, as opposed to the grim, blackclad antifa, the staid enforcers of the status quo.

Such conflicts are likely to escalate. Universities are now increasingly open about their desire to simply ban speech they don’t agree with. On Friday, Alabama’s Auburn University, gave in to the “heckler’s veto” by banning Richard Spencer from campus because of “credible evidence that it will jeopardize the safety of students, faculty, staff and visitors” [Updated event on Spencer event at Auburn, Auburn University, April 14, 2017]. Naturally such threats are only coming from the Left.

Spencer, for his part, has vowed to show up at Auburn on April 18 anyway. The MSM, is doing its best to pin the blame for any violence on Spencer himself— even the “conservative” Washington Times described the head of the National Policy Institute in weasel-like fashion as “accused of espousing Nazism” and made sure to use a photo of him scowling. [Auburn cancels Richard Spencer appearance; alt-right figure says he’ll speak anyway, by Andrew Blake, April 15, 2017]

Regardless of what happens in Alabama, it is also all but certain there will be another Battle of Berkeley in two weeks, when Ann Coulter is scheduled to speak in California on April 27.

All of this was predicted even before Trump was inaugurated. And as VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow wrote after attending the Inauguration:

The leaders of what I have called the nation of “Anti-America” have always been absolutely conscious that there is still time for the Historic Nation of America to unite, to throw off what from a demographic point of view is undeniably a Minority Occupation Government, and to stop its Electing A New People through immigration policy. And they are absolutely determined to prevent the Historic Nation of America from uniting—by “any means necessary.”

But to their horror, it seems to be happening anyway. Hence their anti-Trump tantrum.

We’re facing what was called in the case of the Civil War an irrepressible conflict.

But this is America. People have guns. It will come to blood.

It is now clearly inevitable that someone is going to get killed, on one side or the other.

What’s truly incredible: even now, the American Right is still fighting with one hand behind its back, receiving no support from its supposed political leaders, including Donald Trump.

Though President Trump has gone out of his way to praise his non-white supporters, he has not once specifically praised the European-Americans who were at the core of his winning coalition. Even worse, he has not once defended his supporters who are being attacked on the streets and fighting in his name.

Trump may be President of the United States, but it is still very dangerous to wear a MAGA hat or Trump shirt in some cities.

In contrast, Leftists of the most extreme variety still enjoy adoring MSM coverage and official support from academia, as well as a “hands off” approach from law enforcement.

Consider Yvette Felarca of By Any Means Necessary, an extreme Left wing activist in Berkeley who has been quite open about using violence in the past to shut down speech with which she disagrees [Middle school teacher with history of instigating violence plays key role in Berkeley riot, by Victor Skinner, EAGNews, February 2, 2107]. The Daily Californian went out of its way to describe libertarian activist Lauren Southern as a “controversial right-wing speaker” and a “right-wing radio host.” But Felarca was simply identified as a “BAMN organizer” and quoted about how her group is “here to stand against… the whole Trump administration.” [Free Speech Rally in Berkeley results in several injuries, 20 arrests, April 15, 2017]

Of course, the “whole Trump administration” doesn’t seem to care too much about what is happening one way or the other. Even Attorney General Jeff Sessions, though he is taking action on immigration, has not cracked down on “antifascist” or extreme leftist groups around the country who openly declare their intention to attack Trump supporters. There has been no effort to secure free speech on campus by withholding federal funding from universities who deny the First Amendment.

And far from standing with his populist supporters, President Trump is reportedly on the verge of dismissing Breitbart head Steve Bannon, which threatens to sever his link with his populist base.

But the new movement that is emerging is not dependent on Trump himself. Indeed, Trump is merely a symptom of the larger counter-revolution against a hostile elite which thinks it has the right to control what Americans are allowed to think, say and vote for.

Americans increasingly recognize the totalitarian Left for what it is. And the Beltway Right and Donald Trump himself can either back up those who are willing to fight for America’s First Amendment rights or they will simply be left behind.

James Kirkpatrick [Email him] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc.

(Republished from VDare.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. I noted in a comment thread on Steve Sailer’s blog that it won’t be long before people notice that guns make wonderful weapons–you can stay several hundred yards away from your adversaries, fire repeatedly from a position of concealment and move away. You don’t need the military look-a-likes at all. A single shot hunting rifle will suffice quite nicely. That’s where we’re headed.

    Moderator: I am not advocating arming for violence–I’m simply predicting an inevitable escalation.

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    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @Rod1963
    This was just a initial skirmish, knives will come first since they don't attract attention then will come the guns. I hope it doesn't but given the fanaticism of the Left they are going to want payback at some point.

    The thing that makes this bad, is that Black-bloc/anti-fa seems to be the unofficial goon squad of the Left and of democratic run big cities. Their sole purpose seems to be disrpupt legit protests and keep conservatives from having public rallies. Worse they're given carte-blanche by the city and police. Which is a bad sign.

    The strangest thing is that I've never read of a in-depth investigation of this group. It's like it's hands off by the Right and Alt-right types.

    Americans increasingly recognize the totalitarian Left for what it is. And the Beltway Right and Donald Trump himself can either back up those who are willing to fight for America’s First Amendment rights or they will simply be left behind.

     

    The GOP and Trump are not about to fight for our first amendment rights. We're on our own.
    , @MBlanc46
    Your prediction is perhaps in the 50% range.
    , @J1234
    Way back when, it was the left who was drawn to the guns. This was back when tactical style rifles and ammo belts were seen as more or less abhorrent by decent law abiding citizens (those type of guns conjured up images of third world Castro types.) The draw of guns for the left was (as with music, drugs, dress or casual attitudes towards sex) largely the shock appeal to older generations. They would pose with them for photographs, like Patty Hearst or the Weatherman, but mostly didn't use them. The 1960's was far more a war of words for hearts than a war of weapons for rights (like the 1770's.)

    The left basically won that war back in the 1960's, so a war of words (supplemented with rocks and broken windows) is what today's hippies are counting on today, even though their words are far less intelligent, compelling and fresh than they were 60 years ago. And don't forget, 30+ years of Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Shumer and Brady legislation have turned the left largely against guns.

    Despite the very high number of guns in the US, polls show that less than half of the households in the US have guns in them. Admittedly, those polls have some serious flaws that don't seem to be understood by pollsters, nevertheless, they show America is a country that's very divided about gun ownership. A few leftists are going to bring guns, but not many. A few rightists might shoot without sufficient provocation, but not many. So, while I do dread the shooting that might start happening, I don't see this as becoming a shooting war on a large scale.

    , @Inque Yutani
    I'll advocate. Put the prog-left into the ground. That whole cancerous ideology needs to be purged before it's too late. It might already be too late.
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  2. unit472 says:

    I’m too old for street fighting but I remember the day Desert Storm commenced. I was driving down Van Ness ave. in San Francisco when the scum came pouring out of Polk Gulch to block the road. I was behind a lady who was stopped at the light and honked and yelled for her to turn right before the mob could link arms and reach critical mass. She finally did just before the Doc Martin clad punks reached that side of the street. I yelled out of the car to ‘get out of my way’ and started forward. An orange haired creep ran up and kicked my car door and another jumped on the hood as I drove forward. Reaching out with my left hand I grabbed a handful of orange hair and accelerated. I heard a thud and found myself holding a chunk of orange hair and nothing else. I was doing about 25-30 when the person on the hood decided he better get off before I reached 40 or more. He bounced and rolled down the pavement but I was long gone. Looking behind me I saw other motorist pouring through the hole I had made in the demonstrators lines and they weren’t slowing down or rendering assistance to the two dirtbags I had disposed of.

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    • Replies: @Alfred1860
    I take it you're a big fan of pointless wars?
    , @Mark Green
    Hi Unit. I agree that the virtue-signaling Left is insufferable. What gives them the right to detain SF motorists who might similarly oppose the unjustified use of military force?

    But please don't confuse the arrogance of the Left with principled opposition to Washington's pattern of non-essential, aggressive violence. This includes Operation Desert Storm, which I opposed.

    In what was little more than a local, territorial dispute (involving oil exports) between two Arab states, America's organized slaughter (called Operation Desert Storm) was trotted out. It kill tens of thousands of young Iraqi soldiers. But these Iraqis were not our enemy. They sought no war with America.

    Diplomacy could have been used to achieve Saddam's withdrawal from this disputed territory. Not that it really mattered anyway. US security was never threatened. Nor was the price or availability of oil. That was all fake news.

    Our nation had the opportunity to be a shining example of reasoned diplomacy Instead, Washington needlessly chose carnage and extreme violence.

    Why should US lives ever be jeopardized for the sake of the Kuwaiti Emir? Violence should be used as a last resort. And only in self-defense. Operation Desert Storm did not meet that test. It was mass murder.

    , @daniel le mouche
    let me get this straight. you accelerated more or less into a crowd of people, and built up a high speed (40mph) with someone on your hood.
    And this was for what? Because the 'scum' were against Desert Storm?
    I was once accosted by a beet-red faced English jerkoff and his wife at a protest against the Real Iraq War. This was in Spain, where he seemed to be holidaying. He seemed extremely agitated that a 'white' dude like me would join the little Spaniards in condemning the war. I yelled back at him (there was quite a din), What? You're pro war?
    But obviously your ilk is.
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  3. FKA Max says:

    No worries, Mr. Kirkpatrick, I believe everything will work out fine in the end, but you are correct, I also worry about a potential escalation of violence. In my opinion, the Alt Right should stay out of street fights in general. We have the interwebs, after all, to spread the word.

    The pen/keyboard is mightier than the sword.

    Even though Donald Trump denies it in the following interview; he, in my opinion, most decidedly is a Rockefeller Republican, but it is not at all a bad thing. Mr. Sailer commented on this in detail in November of 2016:

    Trump as the New Nelson Rockefeller

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/trump-as-the-new-nelson-rockefeller/

    Donald Trump Interview 1988 Republican convention

    Uploaded on Jan 30, 2012

    Larry king interviews Donald Trump at the 1988 republican convention

    This is Trump to a T, in my opinion:

    A politician who self-described as having a “Democrat heart with a Republican head,” Nelson Rockefeller would be something of a political anomaly today. Biographer Richard Norton Smith, author of “On His Own Terms,” joins Judy Woodruff to discuss what distinguished the four-time New York governor and former vice president.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/not-a-lot-of-progress-in-thinking-about-unwanted-sexual-advances-since-anita-hill/#comment-1610711

    Trump is neither a fascist nor a racist. He is a patriot, with an understandable and justified Anglo-Saxon bias, just like William N. Vaile
    [...]
    He is a modern-day, Big Stick Roosevelt/Rockefeller Republican, in my opinion.

    http://www.unz.com/plee/trump-we-wish-the-problem-was-fascism/#comment-1617650

    If true, Trump’s best Cabinet pick yet, in my opinion.

    And his first “Rockefeller Republican” pick, which I have been waiting for.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-latest-conspiracy/#comment-1687344

    On Bannon, etc. I recommend to watch Roger Stone’s recent interview with Chuck Todd. This video could soon be deleted on copyright infringement grounds though. Mr. Stone says that Bannon failed to fill spots in the administration with nationalists and now he is isolated, alone and vulnerable. I agree with Mr. Stone’s assessment of the situation:

    Chuck Todd Vs Roger Stone Face Off: ‘Do You Understand Why You’re a Suspect?’ Full Interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehszm3HDUNA

    I also want to make clear, that I think, that Steve Bannon is an American Patriot, and that without his help Donald Trump would not have won the election, but I also think some of his worldview is unrefined and contradictory, and therefore could be a liability and weakness going forward

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653271

    In my opinion, Donald Trump is a WASP agent/advocate as well, and that is why I support him

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653850

    like yourself I was initially skeptical of Donald Trump, so I performed some Extreme Vetting of my own on him in September of 2015. The results were overwhelming positive and beneficial for the United States of America, and that is the reason I decided to throw my support behind Donald Trump from relatively early on in the race.

    Please, see my following post here on the Unz Review and read all my previous posts I linked to there, and you will understand why I trust Donald Trump and have such confidence in him. Maybe this, admittedly rather esoteric, knowledge can put your heart and mind at ease as well: http://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1654918

    The biggest threat to Trump is this, in my opinion:

    There is probably no one who pushes the Zionist-Vatican alliance and agenda harder than the Murdoch media empire

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    Rupert Murdoch’s Heat Street is attacking the Unz Review, Vdare.com and Mr. Sailer.

    In 2016 wikileaks revealed that despite it’s claims of conservative ideology the editor of [Heat Street] Louise Mensch secretly created advertising for liberal democrat Hillary Clinton during her failed run for President of the United States. Mensch has threatened to sue the journalists at wikileaks for revealing her support of Clinton publicly.[9]

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-long-election-stage-two/#comment-1659662

    [Wendi Deng Murdoch] is also “besties” with Ivanka Trump. How much does she influence Ivanka and Jared, who in turn then influence Donald Trump?

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839275

    Not being Donald Trump, but especially not being Steve Bannon fanboys is the key to Make America truly Great Again… in my humble opinion.

    Ann Coulter is doing a great job of putting pressure on Trump, Bannon, et al.

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839462

    Jared’s family being big supporters of the State of Israel.

    For Kushner, Israel Policy May Be Shaped by the Personal

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/us/politics/jared-kushner-israel.html

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839604

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    • Replies: @Stripes Duncan
    While you're fighting the good fight behind the keyboard, someone is going to step up and claim this country in the streets. You may get lucky and find that the winners are your people, but you won't have any claim to the victory.

    America will not be redeemed through dank memes or messiah politicians. I would have thought the abrupt turn-around of the last couple weeks made that crystal clear.
    , @FKA Max
    Minor correction: The results were *overwhelmingly* positive and beneficial for the United States of America...

    This is a long comment, but I think it is important to present my case here in detail.

    The more Trump surrounds himself with conservatives and the less with Alt Righters, the higher the probability his presidency will be a failure.
    [...]
    The Alt Right and its ideas will continue on long after Donald Trump has left office. If he wants to leave a lasting legacy based on science and common sense ( “common sense conservatism” how he referred to it himself during the campaign) he will have to adopt reality-based Alt Right ideas/policies and employ (more) Alt Right personnel and advisors.
    [...]
    Bannon on the evidence is actually a civic nationalist who has specifically denounced racism and, if anything, is showing troubling signs of moving towards the “DemsRRealRacist”- style talking points which led Conservatism Inc. to disaster.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/two-cheers-for-trump-advisor-mike-anton-he-has-the-right-enemies/#comment-1770554

    I will argue in this comment why the Alt Right, in my opinion, should not worry about or maybe even be somewhat glad about Steve Bannon's diminishing power and role in the White House and within the Trump administration.

    My main contention and assertion is that I believe that Donald Trump is more trustworthy and ``Alt Right'' than Steve Bannon is or ever was.

    I start off with an excerpt from an earlier comment of mine from November 2016, what I see as the central weakness of Steve Bannon's worldview:

    Bannon’s Vatican talk defies brief summary, but his strongest theme is the need to imbed capitalism in some kind of firm ethical order based on patriotism and Christian morality. Without that imbedding, he says, what you get is Third World-style crony capitalism or Putinesque state capitalism.
    [...]
    The problem is, in my opinion, that Bannon tries to ally with and reform/manipulate the Roman Catholic Church, which won’t happen. They will co-opt him, he won’t co-opt them. This, I think, is Steve Bannon’s biggest blind spot, and the danger I see with him cozying up to the Vatican.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/dawn-of-the-trumpening-jeff-sessions-for-attorney-general-steve-bannon-for-pope/#comment-1658362

    Followed by these excerpts from another earlier comments of mine:

    Breitbart’s mission, he said, calls for “more voices, not less,” with no single line of thought dominating the site. Race-based nationalism, he said, is a “non-starter.”
    [...]
    The article gives further clues as to why Mr. Bannon was probably in favor of the Betsy DeVos appointment as Secretary of Education and why he likely supports her school voucher advocacy
    [...]
    I wonder what John Calvin would make of Abraham Kuyper’s and Betsy DeVos’ pro-Papacy politics and philosophy/theology? [...] It almost appears that Neo-Calvinism is to Calvinism, what Neo-Conservatism is to Conservatism.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665508

    What the Alt Right Isn’t
    https://www.counter-currents.com/2016/10/what-the-alt-right-isnt/


    1. Not Fighting for the One True Faith
    In the end, those fighting to impose the “One True Faith” do not care if we survive as a people. Ask any true believer and they will tell you that they have more in common with their co-religionist from the Congo than with a professor at MIT. The saddest thing is, sometimes it’s true. [...]
    2. Not Lobbying for the Interests of the Bourgeoisie
    Gavin McInnes thinks that “revering the entrepreneur,” not masturbating, and wearing a suit 3 times a week will stop the destruction of our civilization.
    3. Not Wishing for the State to Disappear
    Our enemies can only be exiled and brought to heel by a strong state. Our future as a people, a collective future that still gives enough leeway to the individual to allow genius to flourish, can only be guaranteed by a White Nationalist state. And of course, it is only a white state, not a soulless corporation or a mixed-race state, which will colonize space.
    6. Not Repeating the Lie of “Judeo-Christian” Civilization
    Remember that the Tea Party was a genuine grass roots movement that largely grew as a continuation of the Ron Paul campaign. FreedomWorks was created by the Koch Brothers and funded by their fellow oligarchs to rein in this movement. They made very generous grants to local Tea Party groups as long as they agreed not to criticize neocon war-mongering, mass immigration, or the Federal Reserve. Within a year they were successful. Glenn Beck and the Zionist-bankrolled Pastor Hagee started national networks and put on large spectacles to divert energy of Tea Party sympathizers toward the neocon agenda. The 2010 midterm election was the last time Tea Party has had an impact on government. If we are not aware of this risk, our brief moment in the sun will be followed by a decade in the darkness.
     
    It seems to me that the Mercer/Prince/DeVos, etc. families are the Koch Brothers of the Alt Right movement, and Steve Bannon is their agent:

    Their data firm, Cambridge Analytica, was hired by the Cruz campaign. They switched to support Trump shortly after he clinched the nomination, and he eventually hired Cambridge Analytica, as well.
    Their top political guru is Steve Bannon, the former Breitbart News chairman and White House chief strategist. They’re close, too, with Trump’s campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, who also has a senior role in the White House.
     
    - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/no-one-knows-what-the-powerful-mercers-really-want/514529/

    Erik Prince is very close to Robert Mercer. Prince was also at the "Heroes and Villains" party that Mercer threw in Long Island after the election. And, in fact, there’s a picture that Peter Thiel, the right-wing billionaire who destroyed Gawker—a picture of Peter Thiel, Donald Trump and Erik Prince, that Peter Thiel says is not safe for the internet. But it’s clear that Erik Prince, through Betsy DeVos, through Robert Mercer and through his very right-wing paramilitary crowd, has the ear of President-elect Donald Trump.
     
    - https://www.democracynow.org/2017/1/18/scahill_blackwater_founder_erik_prince_the

    Luckily the Alt Right was able to push back their infiltration and co-option attempts:

    A couple of weeks ago Steve Bannon’s protege and surrogate Milo Yiannopoulos ( read my posts, and follow the links in them, in this thread, for more details: http://www.unz.com/isteve/donald-trump-messiah-of-american-education/#comment-1663331 ) attempted to hijack and co-opt the Alt Right movement [...] I also want to give credit to Andrew Anglin for countering Milo Yiannopoulos’ intrusion into and attempted co-option of the Alt Right movement.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1664291


    The infiltration and invasion of the ‘Alt Lite’ (not the Alt Right) by the Zionist-Vatican alliance intensifies:
    An Honest Conversation About Blackwater | Erik Prince and Stefan Molyneux
    [...]
    Betsy DeVos is Eri[k] Prince’s elder sister…
    [...]
    Without taking into account the Vatican element, one cannot fully understand the logic of Invade the World/Invite the World , in my opinion. [...]

    Erik Prince of Blackwater infamy is a convert to Roman Catholicism
    [...]
    The Zionist-Vatican alliance wanted to get rid of the authentic Alt Right after their intrusion was repelled and their co-option failed
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665634

    I agree, that was a not so subtle and elegant attempt at misdirection, but there is an issue with Milo Yiannopoulos
    [...] Hunter Wallace a.k.a. Brad Griffin wrote about it here:
    No, It’s Not MILO’s World http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2016/12/31/no-its-not-milos-world/
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/precedents-for-pizzagate/#comment-1720784

    Breitbart’s Man in Rome: A Gentle Voice in a Strident Chorus

    To man the fort in Rome, Stephen K. Bannon, then Breitbart’s chief executive and now Mr. Trump’s chief White House strategist, turned to Mr. Williams, a telegenic and polyglot theologian who had spoken for the Vatican and defended the leader of his conservative religious order against accusations of child molestation (ultimately proved true). Mr. Williams himself then left the priesthood in disgrace when it emerged that he had broken his vows of celibacy and fathered a son.
    At the time, Mr. Williams was the face of the conservative Legion of Christ religious order.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/precedents-for-pizzagate/#comment-1722323

    Mr. Hart, in my opinion, correctly observed the Protestant nature of the Alt Right in his April 2016 article titled: Neocons Want To Destroy Alt Right, Bring Back Buckley-Style Excommunications. Too Bad. http://www.vdare.com/articles/neocons-want-to-destroy-alt-right-bring-back-buckley-style-excommunications-too-bad

    Significantly, if one wanted to make an analogy, much more relevant to American history, of a once-infallible religious leader facing threats from multiple schools of thought using a new technology to spread their message, Martin Luther, not Mohammed comes to mind.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/what-can-msmclinton-say-about-alt-right-that-theyve-not-already-said-about-trumpgop/#comment-1561897

    I hope President Trump stays healthy and alive during his term, because his running mate Mike Pence is not exactly a Protestant
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    I tried to give Steve Bannon the benefit of the doubt, but I think you are pretty much spot on with your characterization of him ‘He sounds very much like a Catholic neocon type.
    [...]
    Let us hope, that they won’t succeed to turn [Trump] and his administration into a Zionist-Vatican alliance puppet… I will do everything in my power to not let that happen!
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665789

    I don't know what the future will bring, but I have always trusted Donald Trump and his judgement more than I have trusted Steve Bannon and his judgement.

    In my opinion, both Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner are no good, and Bannon is no true ally of the Alt Right.
    We need to keep supporting Donald Trump and steer him in the right direction and hold him accountable when he veers off the ``Make America Great Again'' and ``America First'' path.

    As I mentioned before, I think Ann Coulter is doing a great job at gently and encouragingly giving Donald Trump ``tough love'' when he needs/deserves it.

    My ideal scenario for the Trump administration would be if Trump fired both Bannon and Kushner and in their place hired Steve Sailer as his new chief strategist and top advisor ha ha ha, this would ensure that there would be zero chance of a ``Invade the World/Invite the World'' policy, plus Mr. Sailer would encourage President Trump to send lots of birth control foreign aid to Africa and the rest of the Third World and to declare ``war'' on cousin marriage in the Middle East. What an awesome vision ha ha ha

    Trump's Latest Triumph: Making It Appropriate to Worry About the African Overpopulation Crisis

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/trumps-latest-triumph-making-it-appropriate-to-worry-about-the-african-population-crisis/

    Not only is Trump completing the system of German idealism that Kant couldn’t, but Trump has finally made it appropriate for nice white people to worry about the World’s Most Important Graph.

    You see, as long as you can Blame Trump for Africa’s burgeoning billions, it’s not racist to think white people ought to do more to keep Africans from having so many babies.
     
    , @FKA Max
    Interesting article:

    Donald Trump: Nelson Rockefeller’s Revenge?
    by Keith Preston

    This presidential election is basically a contest between a Nixon (Clinton) and a Nelson Rockefeller (Trump).
    [...]
    Ironically, if Trump is successful at permanently marginalizing the neocons and Conservatism, Inc (and good for him if he accomplishes that) all that it means is that US politics would return to what it was in the 1970s before the coup by the neocon/neoliberal alliance, with the same range of ideological perspectives more or less being represented. I guess we could say that Trump is “Nelson Rockefeller’s revenge.”
    [...]
    It’s pretty clear at this point that Trump is going to be just another establishment politician. He started out as Pat Buchanan or George Wallace, then he transformed himself into Ross Perot, and, once again, he’s increasingly becoming Nelson Rockefeller (i.e. a billionaire plutocrat moderate to liberal statist authoritarian imperalist with a penchant for women and bad manners). This guy is basically the revenge of Rockefeller who was never able to make it to the presidency because he kept getting bypassed by the either the Goldwater-Reagan Sun Belt insurgency (or by Nixon who played the Rockefeller and Sun Belt wings of the GOP off against one another).
     
    - https://attackthesystem.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-nelson-rockefellers-revenge/
    , @Greasy William
    You will NEVER see an anti Israel administration in America. It will never happen. You Ron Paul butt boys will have to console yourselves with crappy articles by Giraldi and The Saker.
    , @FKA Max

    I also worry about a potential escalation of violence.
     
    Apparently the young woman Nathan Damigo punched in the forehead at the 2nd Battle of Berkeley was throwing glass bottles at people all day.

    TYT’s Eric Byler spoke at length to White Nationalist (Alt-Right) Activist, Nathan Damigo at conference hosted by the National Policy Institute at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington DC.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/forum/an-alt-right-makeover-shrouds-the-swastikas/#comment-1688216

    janey‏ @janeygak

    janey Retweeted Shane Bauer

    Are you seriously accusing Stephen Lam, the Reuters photographer, of photoshopping the photo and adding the bottle?
    http://pictures.reuters.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&ALID=2C0FQE356VHES&VBID=2C0FC0AA24JS&POPUPPN=16&POPUPIID=2C0FQE35QMT2X
     
    - 9:37 AM - 19 Apr 2017 https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/854735758799716352

    Moldylocks Antifa girl was THROWING GLASS BOTTLES when she got punched

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bHf6j1T5o
    , @Alden
    Wendi Deng and Murdoch got divorced years ago. He's now married to Mick Jagger's ex, Jerry Hall a woman more his own age than Wendi.
    , @FKA Max

    The biggest threat to Trump is this, in my opinion:

    There is probably no one who pushes the Zionist-Vatican alliance and agenda harder than the Murdoch media empire
     
    I might have been wrong on this... when I wrote this Bill O'Reilly was still at Fox News.

    Things seem to be changing at Fox News:

    Michael Wolff: It's James Murdoch's Fox News Now

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-wolff-james-murdochs-fox-news-995800

    He seized his first opportunity for reform in July when, over his father Rupert's protests and his brother and co-executive Lachlan’s ambivalence, he pushed for the ouster of Ailes, the network’s founder and almost all-powerful executive. When the O’Reilly story hit the Times, he overrode his father and brother again — and, by the same method he had used with Ailes, hiring a Democratic-associated law firm, Paul Weiss, to perform a rubber-stamp investigation. (In neither the Ailes nor O’Reilly investigations were the targets of the investigation interviewed.)

    It was, he proudly told friends, a right decision rather than a business decision. The billionaire scion was aligning himself, profits be damned, with a new generation of corporate responsibility. That put him quite directly at odds with his father. It would be quite inconceivable to imagine Rupert sacrificing sure profits for greater good or a better image; indeed, his company had always been a pirate company.
     
    Then I just saw this amazing clip with Tucker Carlson, who will take over Bill O'Reilly's 8PM prime-time slot, where he states that he is extremely inquisitive, curious, and believes it is important and that he is not afraid to ask the hard questions and deal with controversial subject matters, because, get this... he is Protestant! WTF

    From about 4 minutes into the video:

    Tucker Carlson previews his interview with Caitlyn Jenner

    https://youtu.be/YjX_OZyWbII?t=4m4s

    Merton thesis

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merton_thesis

    Merton focuses on English Puritanism and German Pietism as being responsible for the development of the scientific revolution of the 17th and 18th centuries. He explains that the connection between religious affiliation and interest in science is a result of a significant synergy between the ascetic Protestant values and those of modern science.[5] Protestant values encouraged scientific research by allowing science to identify God’s influence on the world and thus providing religious justification for scientific research.[1]
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/reforming-stuyvesant-hs-admissions-should-blacks-whites-team-up-against-asian-grinds/#comment-1812370

    I believe James Murdoch was raised Roman Catholic, and might even be a loyal Papist, so it will be interesting to see how Fox News will position itself on Israel, the Vatican, Russia, Climate Change, etc. with him having more influence:

    During his marriage to Torv, a Roman Catholic, Murdoch was made a Knight Commander of the Order of Saint Gregory the Great (KSG), a papal honour awarded by Pope John Paul II.[138] Torv and Murdoch had three children: Elisabeth Murdoch (born in Sydney, Australia on 22 August 1968), Lachlan Murdoch (born in London, UK on 8 September 1971), and James Murdoch, (born in London on 13 December 1972).
    [...]
    The meet and greet led to a minor “pope for hire” firestorm in some circles. The Tablet carries a photograph of James Murdoch bowing before Benedict XVI as they meet. If you’ve never bought The Tablet before, the picture alone is worth the cover price.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    Murdoch was married in 2000[32] and has three children, Anneka (born 2003), Walter (born 2006), and Emerson (born 2008), with his American wife Kathryn Hufschmid Murdoch. Kathryn works for the Clinton Climate Initiative, a charitable foundation set up by the former U.S. president, Bill Clinton in 2006.[9] In 2013, they launched Quadrivium Foundation.[33]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Murdoch#Personal_life

    This is a very welcome new development for the Alt Right:

    Tucker Carlson’s Reinvention

    If you haven’t heard by now, Tucker Carlson has replaced Megyn Kelly on FOX News and has evolved from a mainstream conservative into a borderline Alt-Lite personality:
    [...]
    Case in point, the Sweden story.

    It was all over sites like Infowars and Breitbart in the two weeks before Tucker Carlson picked it up. It went from there all the way up the rightwing media food chain to President Trump. We’ve become fans of the show in this household even though we consume far more more information from the internet than cable television. He’s reaching an audience which normally doesn’t watch FOX News.
     
    - http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/02/24/tucker-carlsons-reinvention/
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  4. Dr. Doom says:

    Don’t worry man. Batty old man Trumpo is over in Korea playing marbles with Kim Pop Crazy. They’re gonna need more marbles.

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  5. Kirt says:

    I’ve seen a list of names of those arrested in the latest Berkeley melee, but no breakdown as to how many were antifa partisans and how many free speech partisans. Has anyone seen such a breakdown?

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    Not a real breakdown, but you can get the majority of the Antifa folks with the charge "wearing a mask while committing a criminal offense."

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/04/17/berkeley-police-release-names-of-people-arrested-at-trump-protests/amp/
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  6. Yoyo says:

    “What’s truly incredible: even now, the American Right is still fighting with one hand behind its back, receiving no support from its supposed political leaders, including Donald Trump.”

    Of course not. Politically, Trump is much better served by vague statements deploring all violence. He’d be fool to say anything else.

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  7. Hail says: • Website

    For Reference: The Steve Sailer thread on the ‘Battle of Berkeley’ at 107 comments as of this writing.

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  8. wilson says:

    This is a load of shite. The Berkeley protest is a bunch of friggin’ Medieval Times wannabe weirdos on BOTH sides. Both sides clearly came looking to fight, and an honest man would admit that – look for the ‘basedstickman’ tweets if you don’t know what I’m talking about.

    Both sides are utterly outside anything that normal Americans support. Their just doing their extemist drag dance together, and hoping goofballs at Unz will amplify it so they can feel big. Makes you yearn for the day when the weirdo American coalition got their fix of cosplay at Grateful Dead concerts.

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    Yeah, the thing is there's a difference between "looking to fight" because you know you're going to be attacked and "looking to fight" because you know you're going to attack. It'll be a good day when the right is doing the latter, of course. On the other hand, you'll be very quiet then.
    , @White Guy In Japan
    Don't be a wuss. This is the stuff history is made of.
    , @anon

    Both sides clearly came looking to fight
     
    Right - after months of antifa attacks while the police in Dem areas stood back so antifa could attack with impunity.
    , @Venator
    Picture the Capulets and the Montagues, the Guelphs and the Ghibellines, or just some New-Guinean tribe against the other. Much posturing, many invectives, some skirmishing, much ceding and gaining ground, little actual fighting. All-out violence is still suppressed most of the time.

    Of course, that's not to say that the Antifa are not a usefully idiotic assault-guard of the powers that be, and following that the Schmittian enemy of all that is good and true and beautiful.
    , @Alfred1860
    I agree. It was quite something to see all the silly comments on Twitter (Cernovich, L. Southern, Jack Posobiec, etc.) equating this little playground fight with an actual war. If it does go to all out war (I hope not, but it won't surprise me) none of these participants will be involved. When bullets start flying the wheat gets separated from the chaff real quick.
    , @Ragno
    Honest to God, this kind of pox on both your houses weasel-thinking is almost worse than the Soros/Alinsky orc army. Almost.
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  9. wayfarer says:

    An emerging experimental social movement, which has some potential to neutralize the deep-state elite’s toxic divide-and-conquer agenda.

    “Derrick Broze on the Theory and Practice of Agorism”

    source: https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1268-derrick-broze-on-the-theory-and-practice-of-agorism/

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  10. Amasius says:

    Okay, I get that, being a devoted adept 5D Glass Bead Calvinball player, he can’t come out on the side of the “racists” and “deplorables,” but couldn’t Trump at least publicly affirm the right to free speech for all and call for an end to the violence and hatred? Looks like severe dereliction to me.

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  11. Junior says:

    And by all accounts, it was the nationalists who came out on top.

    Utter bullshit. The ONLY ones that won are Soros and his globalist scumbag buddies who are off somewhere laughing their asses off that their plan for instigating a Civil War in America are working to a TEE. The Mayor of Berkeley and his Police Chief should be put in jail for telling the Police to stand down and allowing this insanity to escalate.

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    'Soros and his globalist scumbag buddies who are off somewhere laughing their asses off that their plan for instigating a Civil War in America are working to a TEE.'

    No doubt. Has anyone else watched any video of the crazy little 'professor' Yvette Falarca and her little group of twits By Any Means Necessary?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZn2fO2Rqy0
    Her description of fascism is just what she is doing. Also in the video is Chomsky defining terrorism, which the concurrently running video shows is precisely what she and her group are practicing. This is nothing to do with real anti fascism (but she seems to be embarking on a high flying career). Anti free speech IS fascism.
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  13. Olorin says:

    IIRC some of the worst events of most of the previous decade prior to Jan. of this year flowed out of POTUSian intervention in matters of populist/populace conflict over externally engineered, funded, and provoked left-wing mayhem.

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  14. Rod1963 says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    I noted in a comment thread on Steve Sailer's blog that it won't be long before people notice that guns make wonderful weapons--you can stay several hundred yards away from your adversaries, fire repeatedly from a position of concealment and move away. You don't need the military look-a-likes at all. A single shot hunting rifle will suffice quite nicely. That's where we're headed.

    Moderator: I am not advocating arming for violence--I'm simply predicting an inevitable escalation.

    This was just a initial skirmish, knives will come first since they don’t attract attention then will come the guns. I hope it doesn’t but given the fanaticism of the Left they are going to want payback at some point.

    The thing that makes this bad, is that Black-bloc/anti-fa seems to be the unofficial goon squad of the Left and of democratic run big cities. Their sole purpose seems to be disrpupt legit protests and keep conservatives from having public rallies. Worse they’re given carte-blanche by the city and police. Which is a bad sign.

    The strangest thing is that I’ve never read of a in-depth investigation of this group. It’s like it’s hands off by the Right and Alt-right types.

    Americans increasingly recognize the totalitarian Left for what it is. And the Beltway Right and Donald Trump himself can either back up those who are willing to fight for America’s First Amendment rights or they will simply be left behind.

    The GOP and Trump are not about to fight for our first amendment rights. We’re on our own.

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    Why would the GOP and Trump fight for the first amendment when it was the GOP/conservatives who worked to destroy it along with most of the rest, after all the GOP/conservative branch thinks the constitution is only a "G.D. piece of paper and went on to prove it..
    , @Anatoly Karlin

    This was just a initial skirmish, knives will come first since they don’t attract attention then will come the guns.
     
    Seems to have already happened:

    What happened next was so quick that I'm still trying to make sense of what happened. I immediately charged in to rescue the kid, fearing that he would be murdered. By the time I fought my way to the kid, he was on the ground with at least a dozen Antifa thugs kicking him. I was the first Trump-Soldier to arrive to defend the kid. The next few seconds were the most desperate fighting of my life. I was alone, surrounded, out-numbered and without fear. Back up arrived and we succeeded in rescuing the kid.

    As I was picking up my MAGA hat, a fellow Trump-Soldier told me that I had been stabbed during that fight. I had in fact been stabbed in the gut, just below my left rib cage. My immediate thought was to get to the safety of the rear while also giving no indication to the enemy that I was injured. Antifa has the courage of carrion-birds, so I walked to the rear with my head up and my shoulders back like a Soldier in order to discourage pursuit. This had the additional effect of denying the enemy the morale boost that they would have gotten by seeing an injured Trump-Soldier. Other Trump-Soldiers moved into position to cover my withdrawal.

    It was a long walk to get to the police for medical attention. I don't know how the battle went after I was MEDIVAC'd, but twitter is saying its a total Trump Victory. Recovery is going well. The knife caused minor damage. Oddly enough I'm in more pain from the surgery incisions than the actual stab wound.
     
    , @disturbed_robot
    @Rod1963

    I just want to point out something, not trying to be an ass, just getting some facts out there.

    You said "Black-bloc/anti-fa seems to be the unofficial goon squad of the Left and of democratic run big cities"

    Black Bloc is an Anarchist group. It is a common misconception to think of Anarchists as somehow representing the far Left. Anarchists hate Leftists. That's a fact. They also hate Rightists. They do not represent the democratic establishment whatsoever and are just as firmly against the Left as well as the Right. You should look into a little Anarchist philosophy. By definition, they do not believe in or support the State, hence are opposed to all of the States factions (Left, Right, whatever). Remember the Battle of Seattle? Bill Clinton was president. So how come the Black Bloc's fought there? And who did they fight?

    You also said "The GOP and Trump are not about to fight for our first amendment rights. We’re on our own."

    I couldn't agree with you more. Anyone here who still believes, or believed at any time, that Donald Trump (or any politician for that matter) was somehow here to serve the people (of ANY faction), is completely delusional. The tug of war between democrat and republican is just an internal family struggle of who will run the show, but don't be fooled, the "show" is exactly what they BOTH want it to be and not what any common man/woman wants. We're set upon ourselves to fight and kill each other while they sit in their high castles and laugh at us. Wake up people. Stop falling for the same damn tricks over and over again.
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  15. The last time I remember the American left being violent in any meaningful sense was the Weathermen, whereas the right are more likely to be booted, suited and have guns. (American lefties tend, with few exceptions, to be gun control enthusiasts.) The biker types in the article photo look considerably more likely to kill than be killed.

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  16. When I came across “antifa” in this article I realised I had read the word 500 times and never looked further. And so I did. And came across this

    https://amp.smh.com.au/national/beneath-the-black-mask-inside-australias-antifascist-antifa-groups-20160517-gox69s.html

    (The Sydney Morning Herald, once a fine broadsheet founded by a Fairfax about 1830 now struggles to keep self respect above the level of the once compsrable The Age in Melbourne from which the Syme family sold out to the Sydney Fairfaxes after almost 150 years – te Symes never having got a TV broadcast licence was the big difference. Both would have enjoyed comparisons with the Washington Post but are now tabloids for inner city Greens, teachers etc heavily outgunned by Rupert).

    With that context I can imagine American readers wistfully hoping that such a picture of provincial kindergarten play might describe antifa in America c. 2030.

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  18. Although not American, it’s my opinion the essence of American patriotism is loyalty to it’s founding documents: the constitution & amendments.
    Freedom of speech/expression is a key element of the founding document. NO political persuasion has a right to suppress legitimate free speech (& we all know, ALL sides of politics have tried it).
    The answer to speech with which you disagree to MORE (rational, evidence based) free speech.
    As a personal aside, I find it completely mind boggling that people of the Left should not merely encourage, but aggressively pursue attacks on free speech. It is politically idiotic, historically perverted & morally despicable.
    I wonder whether their actions are evidence of a continuing Moronic attachment to post modernism ? If reality is no more than “discourse” & subjectivity (like culture) is merely an affect of discourse (we don’t actually think, discourse thinks us into existence — blar !!) then perhaps a speech at a university is equivalent to a Titanic star wars like struggle between “good & evil” ? Or perhaps they’re just a pack of adolescent wankers…?

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    " I wonder whether their actions are evidence of a continuing Moronic attachment to post modernism?"

    Nope you are trying to rationalize their " Actions" when fact is the only impedus behind their actions is their Insanity, they are simply insane, and no amount of disecting of their motivations, demands, no amount of trying to discover any regardable motivations will ever come up with bonifide answers as to why they are doing what they are doing.
    The time has come to realize that the sane segment of the US population is being attacked by lunatics who are hell-bent upon destroying the nation as it is, with the goal of installing what they consider to be "Marxism", basta.
    One totally ignored aspect of this pandemonia and mayhem is the actual source of the concepts and jargon/labels employed by these lunatics, and that being : Germany = "Antifa" being the title for german leftist street gangs for decades, and "Green" the handle for the german leftist environmentalist crazies.
    When one considers that most of the destructive concepts wraught upon mankind within the last last five hundred years : Psychology, communism, socialism, fascism, mind-altering drugs, etc, have come out of Germany, and that Germany now is perhaps the most radical leftist nation on earth, it then behooves to keep this strange constellation in mind, along with the recogition that the Germans harbor the most bizzare, wierd hatred for US Republicans anywhere on earth, and they love, without being able to explain why, they worship the US democrats and HC/BC/BO, with no knowledge whatsoever of the sordid backgrounds of these scoundrels.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz artist.

    , @Bill

    Although not American, it’s my opinion the essence of American patriotism is loyalty to it’s founding documents: the constitution & amendments.
     
    America the idea. The essence of patriotardy.
    , @daniel le mouche
    ' I find it completely mind boggling that people of the Left should not merely encourage, but aggressively pursue attacks on free speech. It is politically idiotic, historically perverted & morally despicable.'

    Absolutely. Someone's getting paid to swindle the kids--kids that age can get swept up in anything (remember Manson?), and that fact is most cynically exploited to the full. Wake up, kiddies! You and your good intentions are being used.
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    Although not American, it's my opinion the essence of American patriotism is loyalty to it's founding documents: the constitution & amendments.
    Freedom of speech/expression is a key element of the founding document. NO political persuasion has a right to suppress legitimate free speech (& we all know, ALL sides of politics have tried it).
    The answer to speech with which you disagree to MORE (rational, evidence based) free speech.
    As a personal aside, I find it completely mind boggling that people of the Left should not merely encourage, but aggressively pursue attacks on free speech. It is politically idiotic, historically perverted & morally despicable.
    I wonder whether their actions are evidence of a continuing Moronic attachment to post modernism ? If reality is no more than "discourse" & subjectivity (like culture) is merely an affect of discourse (we don't actually think, discourse thinks us into existence -- blar !!) then perhaps a speech at a university is equivalent to a Titanic star wars like struggle between "good & evil" ? Or perhaps they're just a pack of adolescent wankers...?

    ” I wonder whether their actions are evidence of a continuing Moronic attachment to post modernism?”

    Nope you are trying to rationalize their ” Actions” when fact is the only impedus behind their actions is their Insanity, they are simply insane, and no amount of disecting of their motivations, demands, no amount of trying to discover any regardable motivations will ever come up with bonifide answers as to why they are doing what they are doing.
    The time has come to realize that the sane segment of the US population is being attacked by lunatics who are hell-bent upon destroying the nation as it is, with the goal of installing what they consider to be “Marxism”, basta.
    One totally ignored aspect of this pandemonia and mayhem is the actual source of the concepts and jargon/labels employed by these lunatics, and that being : Germany = “Antifa” being the title for german leftist street gangs for decades, and “Green” the handle for the german leftist environmentalist crazies.
    When one considers that most of the destructive concepts wraught upon mankind within the last last five hundred years : Psychology, communism, socialism, fascism, mind-altering drugs, etc, have come out of Germany, and that Germany now is perhaps the most radical leftist nation on earth, it then behooves to keep this strange constellation in mind, along with the recogition that the Germans harbor the most bizzare, wierd hatred for US Republicans anywhere on earth, and they love, without being able to explain why, they worship the US democrats and HC/BC/BO, with no knowledge whatsoever of the sordid backgrounds of these scoundrels.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz artist.

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    ” I wonder whether their actions are evidence of a continuing Moronic attachment to post modernism?”
    Nope you are trying to rationalize their ” Actions” when fact is the only impedus behind their actions is their Insanity, they are simply insane, and no amount of disecting of their motivations, demands, no amount of trying to discover any regardable motivations will ever come up with bonifide answers as to why they are doing what they are doing.

    Okay, dude, that's just silly. This is without a doubt understandable, and they're mostly not insane. They're being used (see my earlier post).

    As for attachment to post modernism, I'm not sure what is meant by that. Is it people like Foucault? Or just the moronic movie/facebook/shite music culture? If yes, I completely agree.
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  20. Karl says:

    the so-called “antifa girl” is Emily Rose Nauert of Thousand Oaks. I will not print the street address out of respect for her father who lives there. The young woman has an arresst record for Petty Theft.

    her porn name is Venus Rosales

    the boyfriend who abandoned her on the battlefield is @Hooligan969

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  21. neutral says:

    Trump is more concerned protecting the borders of South Korea, fighting for Israel in the Middle East and generally making the world save for liberalism – why should he be concerned what happens in his own country ?

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    Trump is more concerned protecting the borders of South Korea
     
    It's not about South Korea.

    The banking mafia off-shored US industry to China.

    Their assets are in range of NK missiles and they want NK taken out.
    , @Anonymous
    According to a recent NYT article, Trump's kids are apparently worried about the family brand.

    Trump first!

    Keep the Trump brand great!

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  22. moldbug claims you cant have right wing revolution that all successful street violence is always sanctioned from government or ruling class. Im not up to the work required to argue against his thesis but its always seemed a bit too convenient coming as it does from a red diaper baby hipster jewboy telling the nascent new right doing nothing is the best course

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    moldbug claims you cant have right wing revolution
     
    nationalist revolutions happen a lot - all you need is a hostile ruling class
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  23. Bill says:
    @wilson
    This is a load of shite. The Berkeley protest is a bunch of friggin' Medieval Times wannabe weirdos on BOTH sides. Both sides clearly came looking to fight, and an honest man would admit that - look for the 'basedstickman' tweets if you don't know what I'm talking about.

    Both sides are utterly outside anything that normal Americans support. Their just doing their extemist drag dance together, and hoping goofballs at Unz will amplify it so they can feel big. Makes you yearn for the day when the weirdo American coalition got their fix of cosplay at Grateful Dead concerts.

    Yeah, the thing is there’s a difference between “looking to fight” because you know you’re going to be attacked and “looking to fight” because you know you’re going to attack. It’ll be a good day when the right is doing the latter, of course. On the other hand, you’ll be very quiet then.

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    If a reasonable man knows he is going to be attacked somewhere, he either does not go there, or calls the police, or brings a gun. So, yes, they looked for some fighting, just not too much: having a swell day with the boys, protecting our women and gaining bragging rights. Just as football hooligans do, or chimpanzees.
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  24. @wilson
    This is a load of shite. The Berkeley protest is a bunch of friggin' Medieval Times wannabe weirdos on BOTH sides. Both sides clearly came looking to fight, and an honest man would admit that - look for the 'basedstickman' tweets if you don't know what I'm talking about.

    Both sides are utterly outside anything that normal Americans support. Their just doing their extemist drag dance together, and hoping goofballs at Unz will amplify it so they can feel big. Makes you yearn for the day when the weirdo American coalition got their fix of cosplay at Grateful Dead concerts.

    Don’t be a wuss. This is the stuff history is made of.

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  25. szopen says:

    You know when the revolutions happen? Not during the darkest hours, not when people are oppressed the most. Revolutions happen when people are given hope and then they see their hopes to be not fulfilled.

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    In a similar vein, tyrannies are overthrown not when they clamp down, but when they ease up.
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  26. Bill says:
    @animalogic
    Although not American, it's my opinion the essence of American patriotism is loyalty to it's founding documents: the constitution & amendments.
    Freedom of speech/expression is a key element of the founding document. NO political persuasion has a right to suppress legitimate free speech (& we all know, ALL sides of politics have tried it).
    The answer to speech with which you disagree to MORE (rational, evidence based) free speech.
    As a personal aside, I find it completely mind boggling that people of the Left should not merely encourage, but aggressively pursue attacks on free speech. It is politically idiotic, historically perverted & morally despicable.
    I wonder whether their actions are evidence of a continuing Moronic attachment to post modernism ? If reality is no more than "discourse" & subjectivity (like culture) is merely an affect of discourse (we don't actually think, discourse thinks us into existence -- blar !!) then perhaps a speech at a university is equivalent to a Titanic star wars like struggle between "good & evil" ? Or perhaps they're just a pack of adolescent wankers...?

    Although not American, it’s my opinion the essence of American patriotism is loyalty to it’s founding documents: the constitution & amendments.

    America the idea. The essence of patriotardy.

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    America the idea. The essence of patriotardy.
     
    What's the alternative to "patriotardy"?
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  27. He ( DT) knows what is going on and he is doing the right thing by simply letting it play out, the worst thing he could do now is to interfere.
    The masked leftist nutcases are in for some bombastic surprises, as the the patriots have let themselves be vilified and and victimized for too long and the piper will now be paid.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz artist.

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    'He ( DT) knows what is going on and he is doing the right thing by simply letting it play out, the worst thing he could do now is to interfere.
    The masked leftist nutcases are in for some bombastic surprises'.....blah blah

    You sound EXACTLY like the old Obama supporters, who KNEW, they just KNEW, his heart was in the right place, and he really really wanted to do the right thing (by them). Trump has already proved himself to be a lying piece of shit.
    Some mensa man! You think you're smart because you've got a bunch of pencils sticking out of your shirt pocket?
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  28. n230099 says:

    They’re there because the cameras are there. This is all a type of ‘performance art’ to these knotheads. They do it because they know we’ll watch.

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    But why are there so many cameras? Is there a market for this? Or is it just for private consumption of violence-porn?
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  29. @Bill

    Although not American, it’s my opinion the essence of American patriotism is loyalty to it’s founding documents: the constitution & amendments.
     
    America the idea. The essence of patriotardy.

    America the idea. The essence of patriotardy.

    What’s the alternative to “patriotardy”?

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    Blood and soil, i.e., the traditional nation-state.
    , @Bill
    Patriotism. Love of country. Love in the Christian sense of "willing the good of." Thus, an American patriot wills the good of his country.

    It's hard to overstate how stupid "America the idea" is. It's like "America the rhombus" or "America the azure colored fish." It's so far from right it isn't even wrong.

    If America is a country, rather than an idea, then what is a country? A country is a collection of people together with their shared history, culture, folkways, and etc. An "America" inhabited by Punjabis would not be America, no matter how devoted the Punjabis were to Bill Kristol's interpretations of Thomas Jefferson's scribblings. His scribblings are, of course, part of the shared history of America. Like slavery. But they aren't all of it or even the essence of it or even a necessary part of it.
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  30. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @wilson
    This is a load of shite. The Berkeley protest is a bunch of friggin' Medieval Times wannabe weirdos on BOTH sides. Both sides clearly came looking to fight, and an honest man would admit that - look for the 'basedstickman' tweets if you don't know what I'm talking about.

    Both sides are utterly outside anything that normal Americans support. Their just doing their extemist drag dance together, and hoping goofballs at Unz will amplify it so they can feel big. Makes you yearn for the day when the weirdo American coalition got their fix of cosplay at Grateful Dead concerts.

    Both sides clearly came looking to fight

    Right – after months of antifa attacks while the police in Dem areas stood back so antifa could attack with impunity.

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  31. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @neutral
    Trump is more concerned protecting the borders of South Korea, fighting for Israel in the Middle East and generally making the world save for liberalism - why should he be concerned what happens in his own country ?

    Trump is more concerned protecting the borders of South Korea

    It’s not about South Korea.

    The banking mafia off-shored US industry to China.

    Their assets are in range of NK missiles and they want NK taken out.

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  32. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Colleen Pater
    moldbug claims you cant have right wing revolution that all successful street violence is always sanctioned from government or ruling class. Im not up to the work required to argue against his thesis but its always seemed a bit too convenient coming as it does from a red diaper baby hipster jewboy telling the nascent new right doing nothing is the best course

    moldbug claims you cant have right wing revolution

    nationalist revolutions happen a lot – all you need is a hostile ruling class

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    nationalist and right or conservative are interchangeable. natsoc,italian facism, peron facism, not exactly right wing except if you ask a lefty. its more national socialism v international socialism. sure it could be argued trump was clumsily trying to articulate a national socialism, but we all know trumps too stupid for anything coherant bannon seemed to have possibly a non socialist nationalist economic idea, we will never know.
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  33. anon says: • Disclaimer

    has the US political class been so corrupted that it’s impossible to find enough people to fill an administration who agree to all three of
    - non-intervention
    - stopping immigration
    - reverse off=shoring?

    if so then navigating it will be like unraveling a Rubik cube

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  34. @FKA Max
    No worries, Mr. Kirkpatrick, I believe everything will work out fine in the end, but you are correct, I also worry about a potential escalation of violence. In my opinion, the Alt Right should stay out of street fights in general. We have the interwebs, after all, to spread the word.

    The pen/keyboard is mightier than the sword.

    Even though Donald Trump denies it in the following interview; he, in my opinion, most decidedly is a Rockefeller Republican, but it is not at all a bad thing. Mr. Sailer commented on this in detail in November of 2016:

    Trump as the New Nelson Rockefeller

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/trump-as-the-new-nelson-rockefeller/

    Donald Trump Interview 1988 Republican convention

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI

    Uploaded on Jan 30, 2012

    Larry king interviews Donald Trump at the 1988 republican convention

    This is Trump to a T, in my opinion:

    A politician who self-described as having a “Democrat heart with a Republican head,” Nelson Rockefeller would be something of a political anomaly today. Biographer Richard Norton Smith, author of “On His Own Terms,” joins Judy Woodruff to discuss what distinguished the four-time New York governor and former vice president.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/not-a-lot-of-progress-in-thinking-about-unwanted-sexual-advances-since-anita-hill/#comment-1610711

    Trump is neither a fascist nor a racist. He is a patriot, with an understandable and justified Anglo-Saxon bias, just like William N. Vaile
    [...]
    He is a modern-day, Big Stick Roosevelt/Rockefeller Republican, in my opinion.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/plee/trump-we-wish-the-problem-was-fascism/#comment-1617650

    If true, Trump’s best Cabinet pick yet, in my opinion.

    And his first “Rockefeller Republican” pick, which I have been waiting for.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-latest-conspiracy/#comment-1687344

    On Bannon, etc. I recommend to watch Roger Stone's recent interview with Chuck Todd. This video could soon be deleted on copyright infringement grounds though. Mr. Stone says that Bannon failed to fill spots in the administration with nationalists and now he is isolated, alone and vulnerable. I agree with Mr. Stone's assessment of the situation:

    Chuck Todd Vs Roger Stone Face Off: ‘Do You Understand Why You’re a Suspect?’ Full Interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehszm3HDUNA

    I also want to make clear, that I think, that Steve Bannon is an American Patriot, and that without his help Donald Trump would not have won the election, but I also think some of his worldview is unrefined and contradictory, and therefore could be a liability and weakness going forward
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653271

    In my opinion, Donald Trump is a WASP agent/advocate as well, and that is why I support him
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653850

    like yourself I was initially skeptical of Donald Trump, so I performed some Extreme Vetting of my own on him in September of 2015. The results were overwhelming positive and beneficial for the United States of America, and that is the reason I decided to throw my support behind Donald Trump from relatively early on in the race.

    Please, see my following post here on the Unz Review and read all my previous posts I linked to there, and you will understand why I trust Donald Trump and have such confidence in him. Maybe this, admittedly rather esoteric, knowledge can put your heart and mind at ease as well: http://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1654918

    The biggest threat to Trump is this, in my opinion:

    There is probably no one who pushes the Zionist-Vatican alliance and agenda harder than the Murdoch media empire
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    Rupert Murdoch’s Heat Street is attacking the Unz Review, Vdare.com and Mr. Sailer.

    In 2016 wikileaks revealed that despite it’s claims of conservative ideology the editor of [Heat Street] Louise Mensch secretly created advertising for liberal democrat Hillary Clinton during her failed run for President of the United States. Mensch has threatened to sue the journalists at wikileaks for revealing her support of Clinton publicly.[9]
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-long-election-stage-two/#comment-1659662

    [Wendi Deng Murdoch] is also “besties” with Ivanka Trump. How much does she influence Ivanka and Jared, who in turn then influence Donald Trump?
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839275

    Not being Donald Trump, but especially not being Steve Bannon fanboys is the key to Make America truly Great Again… in my humble opinion.

    Ann Coulter is doing a great job of putting pressure on Trump, Bannon, et al.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839462

    Jared’s family being big supporters of the State of Israel.

    For Kushner, Israel Policy May Be Shaped by the Personal

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/us/politics/jared-kushner-israel.html
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839604

    While you’re fighting the good fight behind the keyboard, someone is going to step up and claim this country in the streets. You may get lucky and find that the winners are your people, but you won’t have any claim to the victory.

    America will not be redeemed through dank memes or messiah politicians. I would have thought the abrupt turn-around of the last couple weeks made that crystal clear.

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  35. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @neutral
    Trump is more concerned protecting the borders of South Korea, fighting for Israel in the Middle East and generally making the world save for liberalism - why should he be concerned what happens in his own country ?

    According to a recent NYT article, Trump’s kids are apparently worried about the family brand.

    Trump first!

    Keep the Trump brand great!

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  36. @szopen
    You know when the revolutions happen? Not during the darkest hours, not when people are oppressed the most. Revolutions happen when people are given hope and then they see their hopes to be not fulfilled.

    In a similar vein, tyrannies are overthrown not when they clamp down, but when they ease up.

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  37. bluedog says:
    @Rod1963
    This was just a initial skirmish, knives will come first since they don't attract attention then will come the guns. I hope it doesn't but given the fanaticism of the Left they are going to want payback at some point.

    The thing that makes this bad, is that Black-bloc/anti-fa seems to be the unofficial goon squad of the Left and of democratic run big cities. Their sole purpose seems to be disrpupt legit protests and keep conservatives from having public rallies. Worse they're given carte-blanche by the city and police. Which is a bad sign.

    The strangest thing is that I've never read of a in-depth investigation of this group. It's like it's hands off by the Right and Alt-right types.

    Americans increasingly recognize the totalitarian Left for what it is. And the Beltway Right and Donald Trump himself can either back up those who are willing to fight for America’s First Amendment rights or they will simply be left behind.

     

    The GOP and Trump are not about to fight for our first amendment rights. We're on our own.

    Why would the GOP and Trump fight for the first amendment when it was the GOP/conservatives who worked to destroy it along with most of the rest, after all the GOP/conservative branch thinks the constitution is only a “G.D. piece of paper and went on to prove it..

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  38. Venator says:
    @wilson
    This is a load of shite. The Berkeley protest is a bunch of friggin' Medieval Times wannabe weirdos on BOTH sides. Both sides clearly came looking to fight, and an honest man would admit that - look for the 'basedstickman' tweets if you don't know what I'm talking about.

    Both sides are utterly outside anything that normal Americans support. Their just doing their extemist drag dance together, and hoping goofballs at Unz will amplify it so they can feel big. Makes you yearn for the day when the weirdo American coalition got their fix of cosplay at Grateful Dead concerts.

    Picture the Capulets and the Montagues, the Guelphs and the Ghibellines, or just some New-Guinean tribe against the other. Much posturing, many invectives, some skirmishing, much ceding and gaining ground, little actual fighting. All-out violence is still suppressed most of the time.

    Of course, that’s not to say that the Antifa are not a usefully idiotic assault-guard of the powers that be, and following that the Schmittian enemy of all that is good and true and beautiful.

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  39. Anon says: • Website • Disclaimer

    we should not be fighting antifa, but instead be converting antifa to our side…

    the liberals are not the enemy…their corporate masters are the enemy….

    the antifa and most liberals in general are a ripe target for conversion to the alt/dissident Right…why? Because hardcore liberals and the antifa are very wary of capitalism…but the fact is that anti-white multiculturalism and its core tenet of pro-immigration is the major tool of the big corporations in their drive to increase profits via wage suppression and increasing consumer demand via population growth….anti-white multiculturalism IS modern capitalism…and if we can show antifa and the liberals this truth, we can beat the demographic tide that is against us and get the numbers we need…

    see my youtube channel link above for my vlog on this issue

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    we should not be fighting antifa, but instead be converting antifa to our side
     
    that's the best way to convert them
    , @MBlanc46
    You might as well command the tides to cease. They'll destroy us if we don't destroy them. Peaceful separation is the best solution, but there's as much chance of that as there is of conversion.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    As much as I agree with the two conflicting replies, I think I can sum it up better:

    YOU! CANT! FIX! STUPID!

    These are neither smart nor wise people, we're seeing here. They will absolutely not understand your argument, Anon, with which I find nothing wrong, as long as you don't mind me substituting "crony capitalism" or "fascism" for your "modern capitalism".

    All these people have is phrases in their heads "white men are bad, mmmkaay", "capitalism is evil", and all the Marx BS and the creme de la creme of the worst bullshit of the 1960's. For cryin' out loud, they have not come up with a chant better than "Hey hey, ho, ho, something or other has got to go!" in 50-odd years!

    If they hadn't grown up spoiled in the remaining wealth of the western world, these people would be too stupid to get past 15 years old. How would you go about arguing the truth to them - by all means, beatings around the head and kneecaps would be a step in the right direction as far as changing hearts and minds.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    " the antifa and most liberals in general are a ripe target for conversion"
    Wrong, wrong, wrong, the only ones who are "convertable" are the ones who come around by themselves, as no amount of rational discourse will convert the bone-headed others who are simply insane, period.
    Until the common sense faction of US society finally recognizes that they are confronted with millions of (leftist) lunatics, with crazies who are obcessed with communism, things will only become more and more violent, with the left holding the upper hand.
    Rule number one of solving problems : Recognize it for what it is, and confront it.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz artist.
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  40. @Clark Westwood

    America the idea. The essence of patriotardy.
     
    What's the alternative to "patriotardy"?

    Blood and soil, i.e., the traditional nation-state.

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    I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get. As such, those in the US who can't abide by its conditions will be driven out, locked up or cut down. Disparate impact may ensue.
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  41. Venator says:
    @Bill
    Yeah, the thing is there's a difference between "looking to fight" because you know you're going to be attacked and "looking to fight" because you know you're going to attack. It'll be a good day when the right is doing the latter, of course. On the other hand, you'll be very quiet then.

    If a reasonable man knows he is going to be attacked somewhere, he either does not go there, or calls the police, or brings a gun. So, yes, they looked for some fighting, just not too much: having a swell day with the boys, protecting our women and gaining bragging rights. Just as football hooligans do, or chimpanzees.

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    If a reasonable man knows he is going to be attacked somewhere, he either does not go there, or calls the police, or brings a gun.
     
    "does not go" - thus allowing SJW violence to prevent rights of association and speech

    "calls the police" - police ordered to stand down in Dem controlled areas

    "brings a gun" - stupid and unnecessary escalation

    well organised defensive fist-fighting is the sensible option
    , @Rod1963
    Your kind is simply amazing and pathetic at the same time. Very cuckish.

    This is the first time in recent memory that any whites from the traditional/conservative side have stood up to a bunch of totalitarian thugs employed by the Democratic party.

    Now it wasn't much, but a start.

    Still what do you have against whites having the right to peaceably assemble in public and not be assaulted by black hooed thugs looking for a fight?

    Oh yeah I love your solutions:
    Stay home - typical alt-right shut-in approach to life.

    Call the police? You realize they had orders to stand down. They wouldn't lift a finger if you were gutted like pig.

    Only idiots or psychopaths bring a gun in that sort of situation.

    Bring your fists and your friends if you want to stand up. Yeah I know it's alien to most conservatives. Because like it or not the Left has declared war on us, but it looks like most of those on the right especially the 50 and older crowd don't get that this isn't 1980 anymore.
    , @Bill
    You've got "coward" and "man" confused.
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  42. Venator says:
    @n230099
    They're there because the cameras are there. This is all a type of 'performance art' to these knotheads. They do it because they know we'll watch.

    But why are there so many cameras? Is there a market for this? Or is it just for private consumption of violence-porn?

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  43. @unit472
    I'm too old for street fighting but I remember the day Desert Storm commenced. I was driving down Van Ness ave. in San Francisco when the scum came pouring out of Polk Gulch to block the road. I was behind a lady who was stopped at the light and honked and yelled for her to turn right before the mob could link arms and reach critical mass. She finally did just before the Doc Martin clad punks reached that side of the street. I yelled out of the car to 'get out of my way' and started forward. An orange haired creep ran up and kicked my car door and another jumped on the hood as I drove forward. Reaching out with my left hand I grabbed a handful of orange hair and accelerated. I heard a thud and found myself holding a chunk of orange hair and nothing else. I was doing about 25-30 when the person on the hood decided he better get off before I reached 40 or more. He bounced and rolled down the pavement but I was long gone. Looking behind me I saw other motorist pouring through the hole I had made in the demonstrators lines and they weren't slowing down or rendering assistance to the two dirtbags I had disposed of.

    I take it you’re a big fan of pointless wars?

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  44. @wilson
    This is a load of shite. The Berkeley protest is a bunch of friggin' Medieval Times wannabe weirdos on BOTH sides. Both sides clearly came looking to fight, and an honest man would admit that - look for the 'basedstickman' tweets if you don't know what I'm talking about.

    Both sides are utterly outside anything that normal Americans support. Their just doing their extemist drag dance together, and hoping goofballs at Unz will amplify it so they can feel big. Makes you yearn for the day when the weirdo American coalition got their fix of cosplay at Grateful Dead concerts.

    I agree. It was quite something to see all the silly comments on Twitter (Cernovich, L. Southern, Jack Posobiec, etc.) equating this little playground fight with an actual war. If it does go to all out war (I hope not, but it won’t surprise me) none of these participants will be involved. When bullets start flying the wheat gets separated from the chaff real quick.

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  45. David says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Blood and soil, i.e., the traditional nation-state.

    I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get. As such, those in the US who can’t abide by its conditions will be driven out, locked up or cut down. Disparate impact may ensue.

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    I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get.
     
    I was thinking the same thing.
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  46. Ragno says:
    @wilson
    This is a load of shite. The Berkeley protest is a bunch of friggin' Medieval Times wannabe weirdos on BOTH sides. Both sides clearly came looking to fight, and an honest man would admit that - look for the 'basedstickman' tweets if you don't know what I'm talking about.

    Both sides are utterly outside anything that normal Americans support. Their just doing their extemist drag dance together, and hoping goofballs at Unz will amplify it so they can feel big. Makes you yearn for the day when the weirdo American coalition got their fix of cosplay at Grateful Dead concerts.

    Honest to God, this kind of pox on both your houses weasel-thinking is almost worse than the Soros/Alinsky orc army. Almost.

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  47. @David
    I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get. As such, those in the US who can't abide by its conditions will be driven out, locked up or cut down. Disparate impact may ensue.

    I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get.

    I was thinking the same thing.

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    Me three, Clark and David. I think the two are related, and I maintain that conservatives (of the type in the comments here) CAN learn something from the constitutionalists and the constitutionalists CAN learn something from the conservatives.
    , @daniel le mouche
    ' I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get.
    I was thinking the same thing.'

    I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the original Anglo-Saxons have a Queen and an Aristocracy. America's Constitution was (ostensibly) created to PREVENT that happening in America. My understanding is that much of it came from a similar Constitution of the Iroquois Nation, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Basically, libertarianism in one country.
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  48. MBlanc46 says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    I noted in a comment thread on Steve Sailer's blog that it won't be long before people notice that guns make wonderful weapons--you can stay several hundred yards away from your adversaries, fire repeatedly from a position of concealment and move away. You don't need the military look-a-likes at all. A single shot hunting rifle will suffice quite nicely. That's where we're headed.

    Moderator: I am not advocating arming for violence--I'm simply predicting an inevitable escalation.

    Your prediction is perhaps in the 50% range.

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  49. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    we should not be fighting antifa, but instead be converting antifa to our side...

    the liberals are not the enemy...their corporate masters are the enemy....

    the antifa and most liberals in general are a ripe target for conversion to the alt/dissident Right...why? Because hardcore liberals and the antifa are very wary of capitalism...but the fact is that anti-white multiculturalism and its core tenet of pro-immigration is the major tool of the big corporations in their drive to increase profits via wage suppression and increasing consumer demand via population growth....anti-white multiculturalism IS modern capitalism...and if we can show antifa and the liberals this truth, we can beat the demographic tide that is against us and get the numbers we need...

    see my youtube channel link above for my vlog on this issue

    we should not be fighting antifa, but instead be converting antifa to our side

    that’s the best way to convert them

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  50. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Venator
    If a reasonable man knows he is going to be attacked somewhere, he either does not go there, or calls the police, or brings a gun. So, yes, they looked for some fighting, just not too much: having a swell day with the boys, protecting our women and gaining bragging rights. Just as football hooligans do, or chimpanzees.

    If a reasonable man knows he is going to be attacked somewhere, he either does not go there, or calls the police, or brings a gun.

    “does not go” – thus allowing SJW violence to prevent rights of association and speech

    “calls the police” – police ordered to stand down in Dem controlled areas

    “brings a gun” – stupid and unnecessary escalation

    well organised defensive fist-fighting is the sensible option

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  51. J1234 says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    I noted in a comment thread on Steve Sailer's blog that it won't be long before people notice that guns make wonderful weapons--you can stay several hundred yards away from your adversaries, fire repeatedly from a position of concealment and move away. You don't need the military look-a-likes at all. A single shot hunting rifle will suffice quite nicely. That's where we're headed.

    Moderator: I am not advocating arming for violence--I'm simply predicting an inevitable escalation.

    Way back when, it was the left who was drawn to the guns. This was back when tactical style rifles and ammo belts were seen as more or less abhorrent by decent law abiding citizens (those type of guns conjured up images of third world Castro types.) The draw of guns for the left was (as with music, drugs, dress or casual attitudes towards sex) largely the shock appeal to older generations. They would pose with them for photographs, like Patty Hearst or the Weatherman, but mostly didn’t use them. The 1960′s was far more a war of words for hearts than a war of weapons for rights (like the 1770′s.)

    The left basically won that war back in the 1960′s, so a war of words (supplemented with rocks and broken windows) is what today’s hippies are counting on today, even though their words are far less intelligent, compelling and fresh than they were 60 years ago. And don’t forget, 30+ years of Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Shumer and Brady legislation have turned the left largely against guns.

    Despite the very high number of guns in the US, polls show that less than half of the households in the US have guns in them. Admittedly, those polls have some serious flaws that don’t seem to be understood by pollsters, nevertheless, they show America is a country that’s very divided about gun ownership. A few leftists are going to bring guns, but not many. A few rightists might shoot without sufficient provocation, but not many. So, while I do dread the shooting that might start happening, I don’t see this as becoming a shooting war on a large scale.

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    Unfortunately the Brady legislation is typical. The assailant (no name gratification) had been judged insane before he started his attack. When he attempted to buy a gun from a dealer his status was recognized and the sale was refused. Further the dealer notified the Feds of the matter. The Feds sat on their hands.

    Rather than going after the Federal Firearms people Mrs. Brady came after me and my right to arm myself against similar situations. It makes no sense.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    Despite the very high number of guns in the US, polls show that less than half of the households in the US have guns in them. Admittedly, those polls have some serious flaws that don’t seem to be understood by pollsters, ...
     
    I've got one of your flaws, right here: Many people, often rightfully, don't trust their governments and their governments' spy apparatus enough to tell a pollster they have guns. I know someone like that, a friend, yeah, a friend of mine.
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  52. wayfarer says:

    Zionist Fascism in ANTIFA’s clothing?

    Listen carefully to the canned ANTIFA script being ranted and recited in a NYC subway, and you be the judge.

    “Einstein Letter Warning of Zionist Facism in Israel”
    source: http://www.rense.com/general59/ein.htm

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  53. @Rod1963
    This was just a initial skirmish, knives will come first since they don't attract attention then will come the guns. I hope it doesn't but given the fanaticism of the Left they are going to want payback at some point.

    The thing that makes this bad, is that Black-bloc/anti-fa seems to be the unofficial goon squad of the Left and of democratic run big cities. Their sole purpose seems to be disrpupt legit protests and keep conservatives from having public rallies. Worse they're given carte-blanche by the city and police. Which is a bad sign.

    The strangest thing is that I've never read of a in-depth investigation of this group. It's like it's hands off by the Right and Alt-right types.

    Americans increasingly recognize the totalitarian Left for what it is. And the Beltway Right and Donald Trump himself can either back up those who are willing to fight for America’s First Amendment rights or they will simply be left behind.

     

    The GOP and Trump are not about to fight for our first amendment rights. We're on our own.

    This was just a initial skirmish, knives will come first since they don’t attract attention then will come the guns.

    Seems to have already happened:

    What happened next was so quick that I’m still trying to make sense of what happened. I immediately charged in to rescue the kid, fearing that he would be murdered. By the time I fought my way to the kid, he was on the ground with at least a dozen Antifa thugs kicking him. I was the first Trump-Soldier to arrive to defend the kid. The next few seconds were the most desperate fighting of my life. I was alone, surrounded, out-numbered and without fear. Back up arrived and we succeeded in rescuing the kid.

    As I was picking up my MAGA hat, a fellow Trump-Soldier told me that I had been stabbed during that fight. I had in fact been stabbed in the gut, just below my left rib cage. My immediate thought was to get to the safety of the rear while also giving no indication to the enemy that I was injured. Antifa has the courage of carrion-birds, so I walked to the rear with my head up and my shoulders back like a Soldier in order to discourage pursuit. This had the additional effect of denying the enemy the morale boost that they would have gotten by seeing an injured Trump-Soldier. Other Trump-Soldiers moved into position to cover my withdrawal.

    It was a long walk to get to the police for medical attention. I don’t know how the battle went after I was MEDIVAC’d, but twitter is saying its a total Trump Victory. Recovery is going well. The knife caused minor damage. Oddly enough I’m in more pain from the surgery incisions than the actual stab wound.

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    'a fellow Trump-Soldier told me'

    Trump-Soldier. I love it. The new term for misguided imbecilic clown.
    To top all, Trump's a fucking smug, lying, piece of shit hypocrite.
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  54. Rod1963 says:
    @Venator
    If a reasonable man knows he is going to be attacked somewhere, he either does not go there, or calls the police, or brings a gun. So, yes, they looked for some fighting, just not too much: having a swell day with the boys, protecting our women and gaining bragging rights. Just as football hooligans do, or chimpanzees.

    Your kind is simply amazing and pathetic at the same time. Very cuckish.

    This is the first time in recent memory that any whites from the traditional/conservative side have stood up to a bunch of totalitarian thugs employed by the Democratic party.

    Now it wasn’t much, but a start.

    Still what do you have against whites having the right to peaceably assemble in public and not be assaulted by black hooed thugs looking for a fight?

    Oh yeah I love your solutions:
    Stay home – typical alt-right shut-in approach to life.

    Call the police? You realize they had orders to stand down. They wouldn’t lift a finger if you were gutted like pig.

    Only idiots or psychopaths bring a gun in that sort of situation.

    Bring your fists and your friends if you want to stand up. Yeah I know it’s alien to most conservatives. Because like it or not the Left has declared war on us, but it looks like most of those on the right especially the 50 and older crowd don’t get that this isn’t 1980 anymore.

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  55. Mark Green says: • Website
    @unit472
    I'm too old for street fighting but I remember the day Desert Storm commenced. I was driving down Van Ness ave. in San Francisco when the scum came pouring out of Polk Gulch to block the road. I was behind a lady who was stopped at the light and honked and yelled for her to turn right before the mob could link arms and reach critical mass. She finally did just before the Doc Martin clad punks reached that side of the street. I yelled out of the car to 'get out of my way' and started forward. An orange haired creep ran up and kicked my car door and another jumped on the hood as I drove forward. Reaching out with my left hand I grabbed a handful of orange hair and accelerated. I heard a thud and found myself holding a chunk of orange hair and nothing else. I was doing about 25-30 when the person on the hood decided he better get off before I reached 40 or more. He bounced and rolled down the pavement but I was long gone. Looking behind me I saw other motorist pouring through the hole I had made in the demonstrators lines and they weren't slowing down or rendering assistance to the two dirtbags I had disposed of.

    Hi Unit. I agree that the virtue-signaling Left is insufferable. What gives them the right to detain SF motorists who might similarly oppose the unjustified use of military force?

    But please don’t confuse the arrogance of the Left with principled opposition to Washington’s pattern of non-essential, aggressive violence. This includes Operation Desert Storm, which I opposed.

    In what was little more than a local, territorial dispute (involving oil exports) between two Arab states, America’s organized slaughter (called Operation Desert Storm) was trotted out. It kill tens of thousands of young Iraqi soldiers. But these Iraqis were not our enemy. They sought no war with America.

    Diplomacy could have been used to achieve Saddam’s withdrawal from this disputed territory. Not that it really mattered anyway. US security was never threatened. Nor was the price or availability of oil. That was all fake news.

    Our nation had the opportunity to be a shining example of reasoned diplomacy Instead, Washington needlessly chose carnage and extreme violence.

    Why should US lives ever be jeopardized for the sake of the Kuwaiti Emir? Violence should be used as a last resort. And only in self-defense. Operation Desert Storm did not meet that test. It was mass murder.

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  56. OutWest says:
    @J1234
    Way back when, it was the left who was drawn to the guns. This was back when tactical style rifles and ammo belts were seen as more or less abhorrent by decent law abiding citizens (those type of guns conjured up images of third world Castro types.) The draw of guns for the left was (as with music, drugs, dress or casual attitudes towards sex) largely the shock appeal to older generations. They would pose with them for photographs, like Patty Hearst or the Weatherman, but mostly didn't use them. The 1960's was far more a war of words for hearts than a war of weapons for rights (like the 1770's.)

    The left basically won that war back in the 1960's, so a war of words (supplemented with rocks and broken windows) is what today's hippies are counting on today, even though their words are far less intelligent, compelling and fresh than they were 60 years ago. And don't forget, 30+ years of Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Shumer and Brady legislation have turned the left largely against guns.

    Despite the very high number of guns in the US, polls show that less than half of the households in the US have guns in them. Admittedly, those polls have some serious flaws that don't seem to be understood by pollsters, nevertheless, they show America is a country that's very divided about gun ownership. A few leftists are going to bring guns, but not many. A few rightists might shoot without sufficient provocation, but not many. So, while I do dread the shooting that might start happening, I don't see this as becoming a shooting war on a large scale.

    Unfortunately the Brady legislation is typical. The assailant (no name gratification) had been judged insane before he started his attack. When he attempted to buy a gun from a dealer his status was recognized and the sale was refused. Further the dealer notified the Feds of the matter. The Feds sat on their hands.

    Rather than going after the Federal Firearms people Mrs. Brady came after me and my right to arm myself against similar situations. It makes no sense.

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  57. MBlanc46 says:
    @Anon
    we should not be fighting antifa, but instead be converting antifa to our side...

    the liberals are not the enemy...their corporate masters are the enemy....

    the antifa and most liberals in general are a ripe target for conversion to the alt/dissident Right...why? Because hardcore liberals and the antifa are very wary of capitalism...but the fact is that anti-white multiculturalism and its core tenet of pro-immigration is the major tool of the big corporations in their drive to increase profits via wage suppression and increasing consumer demand via population growth....anti-white multiculturalism IS modern capitalism...and if we can show antifa and the liberals this truth, we can beat the demographic tide that is against us and get the numbers we need...

    see my youtube channel link above for my vlog on this issue

    You might as well command the tides to cease. They’ll destroy us if we don’t destroy them. Peaceful separation is the best solution, but there’s as much chance of that as there is of conversion.

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  58. @anon

    moldbug claims you cant have right wing revolution
     
    nationalist revolutions happen a lot - all you need is a hostile ruling class

    nationalist and right or conservative are interchangeable. natsoc,italian facism, peron facism, not exactly right wing except if you ask a lefty. its more national socialism v international socialism. sure it could be argued trump was clumsily trying to articulate a national socialism, but we all know trumps too stupid for anything coherant bannon seemed to have possibly a non socialist nationalist economic idea, we will never know.

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    but we all know trumps too stupid for anything coherant
     
    i don't believe that for a second
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  59. Bill says:
    @Venator
    If a reasonable man knows he is going to be attacked somewhere, he either does not go there, or calls the police, or brings a gun. So, yes, they looked for some fighting, just not too much: having a swell day with the boys, protecting our women and gaining bragging rights. Just as football hooligans do, or chimpanzees.

    You’ve got “coward” and “man” confused.

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    You are right. Maybe a coward will bring a gun. Then what?
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  60. Bill says:
    @Clark Westwood

    America the idea. The essence of patriotardy.
     
    What's the alternative to "patriotardy"?

    Patriotism. Love of country. Love in the Christian sense of “willing the good of.” Thus, an American patriot wills the good of his country.

    It’s hard to overstate how stupid “America the idea” is. It’s like “America the rhombus” or “America the azure colored fish.” It’s so far from right it isn’t even wrong.

    If America is a country, rather than an idea, then what is a country? A country is a collection of people together with their shared history, culture, folkways, and etc. An “America” inhabited by Punjabis would not be America, no matter how devoted the Punjabis were to Bill Kristol’s interpretations of Thomas Jefferson’s scribblings. His scribblings are, of course, part of the shared history of America. Like slavery. But they aren’t all of it or even the essence of it or even a necessary part of it.

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    Hey He-man Trump-Soldier,
    'It’s hard to overstate how stupid “America the idea” is.'

    The foreign writer you attempt to belittle knows more about America than you do, it seems. That commenter made the absolutely correct assertion that the very essence of being American is the Constitution, and all the freedoms codified therein. Is America not, in essence, the Freedom of Speech? Even the Right to Bear Arms against a totalitarian regime? (Of course, it was presupposed that the population would be intelligent and educated, as well as courageous, enough to organize a real takeover, or taking back, of the government, which it turned out is exactly NOT what happened with the election of Saviour Donald by Fox News-watching good old boys!)

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  61. @Diversity Heretic
    I noted in a comment thread on Steve Sailer's blog that it won't be long before people notice that guns make wonderful weapons--you can stay several hundred yards away from your adversaries, fire repeatedly from a position of concealment and move away. You don't need the military look-a-likes at all. A single shot hunting rifle will suffice quite nicely. That's where we're headed.

    Moderator: I am not advocating arming for violence--I'm simply predicting an inevitable escalation.

    I’ll advocate. Put the prog-left into the ground. That whole cancerous ideology needs to be purged before it’s too late. It might already be too late.

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    Don't you ever feel jealous and resentful about the luxurious and decadent lives Ivanks and Donald Trump have while you are working day and night to pay the rent for a basement, and you cannot afford to see doctor who will bankrupt to fill his greed? Mind you the 1% say you guys deserve the rotten life because you guys are lazy bums.
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  62. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Colleen Pater
    nationalist and right or conservative are interchangeable. natsoc,italian facism, peron facism, not exactly right wing except if you ask a lefty. its more national socialism v international socialism. sure it could be argued trump was clumsily trying to articulate a national socialism, but we all know trumps too stupid for anything coherant bannon seemed to have possibly a non socialist nationalist economic idea, we will never know.

    but we all know trumps too stupid for anything coherant

    i don’t believe that for a second

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    [Maintaining proper capitalization, punctuation, grammar, and spelling is important if you want your comments published.]

    but we all know trumps too stupid for anything coherent

    i don’t believe that for a second

    obviously we have different metrics, unless youre one of those 4G chess types. Trumps not actually a moron, hes just not particularly bright, he doesnt read, hes intellectually lazy and incurious. This accusation that hes the sum of the last few people that talked to him is more true than not, Im sure he was bright enough to figure out he didnt have a clue and had better outsource quick and had better give in since he was so outgunned he might be completely wrong about everything.

    A really intelligent person who inexplicably found himself completely clueless at his age and position could quickly get up to speed and see what I see and I bet you see, but he couldnt hes swamped he only knows he has some popular support but is surprised to find how little it counts and he finds all the jews n his life who he trusted to make him rich disagree with everything he thinks so here we are hes totally cucked. He is trying to get a couple little things like the wall done to save face nd get relected but by that time we will all ralize hes deported only the same amount of criminals as obama that hes done nothing he promised and everything he swore he wouldnt. you and I overlaid a rational coherence of a sort of reactionary nationalism over his tweet philosophy but you knew as well as I it was wishful thinking
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  63. @Anon
    we should not be fighting antifa, but instead be converting antifa to our side...

    the liberals are not the enemy...their corporate masters are the enemy....

    the antifa and most liberals in general are a ripe target for conversion to the alt/dissident Right...why? Because hardcore liberals and the antifa are very wary of capitalism...but the fact is that anti-white multiculturalism and its core tenet of pro-immigration is the major tool of the big corporations in their drive to increase profits via wage suppression and increasing consumer demand via population growth....anti-white multiculturalism IS modern capitalism...and if we can show antifa and the liberals this truth, we can beat the demographic tide that is against us and get the numbers we need...

    see my youtube channel link above for my vlog on this issue

    As much as I agree with the two conflicting replies, I think I can sum it up better:

    YOU! CANT! FIX! STUPID!

    These are neither smart nor wise people, we’re seeing here. They will absolutely not understand your argument, Anon, with which I find nothing wrong, as long as you don’t mind me substituting “crony capitalism” or “fascism” for your “modern capitalism”.

    All these people have is phrases in their heads “white men are bad, mmmkaay”, “capitalism is evil”, and all the Marx BS and the creme de la creme of the worst bullshit of the 1960′s. For cryin’ out loud, they have not come up with a chant better than “Hey hey, ho, ho, something or other has got to go!” in 50-odd years!

    If they hadn’t grown up spoiled in the remaining wealth of the western world, these people would be too stupid to get past 15 years old. How would you go about arguing the truth to them – by all means, beatings around the head and kneecaps would be a step in the right direction as far as changing hearts and minds.

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    Not to mention how many of them are basically looking for a fight in the first place. You're not speaking their language until you speak fist to the face, that's for certain.
    , @anon

    These are neither smart nor wise people, we’re seeing here.
     
    A lot of them are people who have been lied to all their lives by the media and academia - losing a fight they started will make some people like that think for themselves for the first time.

    (them being the aggressor is critical for this)
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  64. @Clark Westwood

    I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get.
     
    I was thinking the same thing.

    Me three, Clark and David. I think the two are related, and I maintain that conservatives (of the type in the comments here) CAN learn something from the constitutionalists and the constitutionalists CAN learn something from the conservatives.

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    Unfortunately the constitution is whatever any random judge says it is and it's been that way since 1804 Marbury vs Madison.

    Constitutionalists who are not attorneys really should learn constitutional law. Maybe buy the Gilbert's Summary or any constitutional law test prep book.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    I can agree with everyone on this. The US's founding documents were a product of a particular people.

    It may be more proper to regard the rights as guaranteed under the Constitution as a set of privileges that were taken from the king by the Revolutionaries, who subsequently passed them on to their descendants. In other words, rights are property or they are nothing.

    We should think about citizenship in the same way: citizenship is property or it is nothing. And if you're not a citizen, you're a migrant worker and whoever hired you is responsible for you. And when the work's done, you go back home.

    This is an idealized vision though. There is too much water under the bridge at this point so things will just have to run their course.

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  65. @J1234
    Way back when, it was the left who was drawn to the guns. This was back when tactical style rifles and ammo belts were seen as more or less abhorrent by decent law abiding citizens (those type of guns conjured up images of third world Castro types.) The draw of guns for the left was (as with music, drugs, dress or casual attitudes towards sex) largely the shock appeal to older generations. They would pose with them for photographs, like Patty Hearst or the Weatherman, but mostly didn't use them. The 1960's was far more a war of words for hearts than a war of weapons for rights (like the 1770's.)

    The left basically won that war back in the 1960's, so a war of words (supplemented with rocks and broken windows) is what today's hippies are counting on today, even though their words are far less intelligent, compelling and fresh than they were 60 years ago. And don't forget, 30+ years of Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Shumer and Brady legislation have turned the left largely against guns.

    Despite the very high number of guns in the US, polls show that less than half of the households in the US have guns in them. Admittedly, those polls have some serious flaws that don't seem to be understood by pollsters, nevertheless, they show America is a country that's very divided about gun ownership. A few leftists are going to bring guns, but not many. A few rightists might shoot without sufficient provocation, but not many. So, while I do dread the shooting that might start happening, I don't see this as becoming a shooting war on a large scale.

    Despite the very high number of guns in the US, polls show that less than half of the households in the US have guns in them. Admittedly, those polls have some serious flaws that don’t seem to be understood by pollsters, …

    I’ve got one of your flaws, right here: Many people, often rightfully, don’t trust their governments and their governments’ spy apparatus enough to tell a pollster they have guns. I know someone like that, a friend, yeah, a friend of mine.

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    That was the main flaw I was talking about. I would never tell a pollster whether I had guns or not, nor would most politically oriented gun owners. So in this respect, it's hard to know how far off the poll numbers are. It sure didn't stop the Washington Post from citing a poll without meaningful caveats, that gun ownership was declining in the US...even though it had been previously and widely and often reported that Americans were buying record numbers of guns for several years while Obama was in office.

    But still...WaPo is NOT fake news, so millions of gun owners just must've woken up one day and thrown their guns in the trash.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/29/american-gun-ownership-is-now-at-a-30-year-low/?utm_term=.eb3313ab7c84
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  66. joe webb says:

    On Kevin MacDonald’s The Occidental Observer, a new piece on Auburn, VA and street confrontations with the anti-fas, KM uses the term, apparently not ironically , “By Any Means Necessary.”

    KM reminds me of a certain Oriental Despot in the news these days. By Any Means Necessary…coined as I recall by he Black Panthers back in the 60s.

    Joe Webb

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  67. @Rod1963
    This was just a initial skirmish, knives will come first since they don't attract attention then will come the guns. I hope it doesn't but given the fanaticism of the Left they are going to want payback at some point.

    The thing that makes this bad, is that Black-bloc/anti-fa seems to be the unofficial goon squad of the Left and of democratic run big cities. Their sole purpose seems to be disrpupt legit protests and keep conservatives from having public rallies. Worse they're given carte-blanche by the city and police. Which is a bad sign.

    The strangest thing is that I've never read of a in-depth investigation of this group. It's like it's hands off by the Right and Alt-right types.

    Americans increasingly recognize the totalitarian Left for what it is. And the Beltway Right and Donald Trump himself can either back up those who are willing to fight for America’s First Amendment rights or they will simply be left behind.

     

    The GOP and Trump are not about to fight for our first amendment rights. We're on our own.

    I just want to point out something, not trying to be an ass, just getting some facts out there.

    You said “Black-bloc/anti-fa seems to be the unofficial goon squad of the Left and of democratic run big cities”

    Black Bloc is an Anarchist group. It is a common misconception to think of Anarchists as somehow representing the far Left. Anarchists hate Leftists. That’s a fact. They also hate Rightists. They do not represent the democratic establishment whatsoever and are just as firmly against the Left as well as the Right. You should look into a little Anarchist philosophy. By definition, they do not believe in or support the State, hence are opposed to all of the States factions (Left, Right, whatever). Remember the Battle of Seattle? Bill Clinton was president. So how come the Black Bloc’s fought there? And who did they fight?

    You also said “The GOP and Trump are not about to fight for our first amendment rights. We’re on our own.”

    I couldn’t agree with you more. Anyone here who still believes, or believed at any time, that Donald Trump (or any politician for that matter) was somehow here to serve the people (of ANY faction), is completely delusional. The tug of war between democrat and republican is just an internal family struggle of who will run the show, but don’t be fooled, the “show” is exactly what they BOTH want it to be and not what any common man/woman wants. We’re set upon ourselves to fight and kill each other while they sit in their high castles and laugh at us. Wake up people. Stop falling for the same damn tricks over and over again.

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    You said “Black-bloc/anti-fa seems to be the unofficial goon squad of the Left and of democratic run big cities”

    Black Bloc is an Anarchist group...snip...They do not represent the democratic establishment whatsoever
     
    Right - that's why they are the unofficial goon squad. The Democratic establishment doesn't control them but the Democratic establishment allows antifa to attack opponents of the Democratic establishment.
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  68. Corvinus says:

    So, members of the Alt Right were wearing masks at a demonstration. Mr. Sailer called for the arrests of such individuals. Do you agree?

    “The MSM seems utterly determined to ignore the core truth at the heart of the violence in Berkeley—it was the antifa who showed up determined to cause trouble and deny others their right to free speech.”

    No, it was individuals on the left and right who each sought verbal and physical confrontation.

    “Conservatives and libertarians were attempting to hold a “Free Speech Rally” in the Leftist city in protest of several recent incidents when violent CultMarx totalitarians used force against words”

    Let us offer the proper context here. Indeed, radical lefties, not the Left or liberals in general, disrupted events. Whoever engages in violence ought to be arrested.

    But Milo is no innocent here; his presence and words command that a battle royale take place between his toadies and the Coalition of the Fringe Left Acolytes. It is ironic that Berkeley shut down his opportunity to freely speak his mind given their history. But, in the end, free speech is never free, as there are consequences.

    As far as Kyle Chapman being arrested, again, Mr. Sailer called for anyone who wears a mask at a rally to be thrown in jail. Again, do you agree?

    Regarding David Horowitz, the author knows better—college campus personnel and government officials have the liberty to impose restrictions when it comes to exercising one’s right to freedom of assembly.

    http://www.cleveland.com/rnc-2016/index.ssf/2015/08/cleveland_plans_free-speech_zo.html

    “Other cities hosting political conventions in recent years have set up “free-speech zones,” also known as “protests zones,” based on court decisions that said while government can’t restrict the content of speech, it can in the name of security regulate when, where and how protests occur.”

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  69. Antifa are a bunch of tools. Basically upper middle-class lib Dem idiots pretending to be hardcore street fighting radicals. Nietzsche said that when groups political groups that fight against the establishment become the establishment the voice of truth shifts to whichever group takes their place in opposition. I don’t know how he came to that conclusion but I broadly agree.

    In 2017 it is the right that stands up for ending useless wars, free speech, economic and political reform, civil liberties and national sovereignty, while the “left” promotes intolerance, an imperial foreign policy up to and including war with nuclear powers, suppression of speech and civil liberties, violence against those who hold different beliefs and opinions and a continuation of a dangerously dysfunctional globalist status quo. That’s quite a change from 20 years ago and Donald Trump, even though he’s a liar and full of shit, ran to the left of Hillary Clinton.

    I put “left” in scare quotes because that term, as used by the right, is becoming outdated and more confusing than anything. The liberal “left” fully supports global capitalism as imagined by Thatcher and Reagan, fully supports and shills for illegal wars and scorns anyone who suggests they get back to economic and class issues. There isn’t much left left in the”left”.

    The right has a problem here. It refers to liberal intersectional progressives, or whatever you want to call them, as “the left” even though that’s not accurate at all. For one thing the “left” is on the same page as the right economically. Yet the right still talks like the liberals are communists, Marxists and socialists. To be frank most Americans, especially on the right, have no idea what these terms actually mean. If they did they would not be calling Obama a Marxist, Democrats socialist etc. and generally making themselves look like political illiterates. The paranoia on the right about commies and assorted “socialists” plotting to steal our freedoms and liberty is its biggest achilles heel. It prevents them from seeing that many of our current problems are in fact caused by unfettered capitalism. This a truism and it is ironic that the right cannot or will not consider this when it has no trouble seeing through other lies perpetuated by the establishment.

    The identity politics “left” has no problem with capitalism at all. In fact they often accuse those who say they should maybe look at class issues rather than identity as racists and misogynists. The right meanwhile is shocked that a bellicose billionaire isn’t the working-class hero they imagined he’d be. No shit, of course he isn’t. Thirty years of government rule that benefits the obscenely rich while everyone gets the shaft should be a wakeup call. The naivete here is staggering.

    There is a reason why the rich and powerful are so afraid of anything resembling socialism (even single-payer healthcare scares them which is hardly radical or the road to Stalinist dictatorship). Because they know the only thing that can put a damper on their looting and exploitation are economic policies that favor ordinary working people and a government that demands they pay their fair share in taxes. Yet the right angrily parrots the views of the people who screw them day in and day out year after year.

    Wake up. The rich don’t care about you and they don’t care about me. At all. They know that even though they are few and we are many…as long as they are united – and they are – and we are not…they win and we lose. And that is the truth. To break the stranglehold they have over the world capitalism has to be seriously kneecapped or we will destroy ourselves.

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    This is an interesting post showing how the street signs have been altered and switched around to confuse the public. It's what Orwell called "Newspeak":

    Infogalactica:

    NEWSPEAK is the fictional language in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, written by George Orwell. It is a controlled language created by the totalitarian state Oceania as a tool to limit freedom of thought, and concepts that pose a threat to the regime such as freedom, self-expression, individuality, and peace. Any form of thought alternative to the party’s construct is classified as "thoughtcrime".


    Antifa are a bunch of tools. Basically upper middle-class lib Dem idiots pretending to be hardcore street fighting radicals. Nietzsche said that when groups political groups that fight against the establishment become the establishment the voice of truth shifts to whichever group takes their place in opposition. I don’t know how he came to that conclusion but I broadly agree.
     
    I would also agree that, fringe leftists, Zionists and hippies are now mainstream, and their SJW radicalism has become a cover for the Plutocratic looting of the US economy and Zionist ME wars.

    It's unbelievable, but this idiotic crowd of pensioners still seem to think that they are leading the fight for freedom, justice and rights, and they are encouraged in this view by a cynical MSM.

    Perhaps they'll need to die off before anything changes. or alternatively their carefully programmed "safe spaces" offspring will continue the good fight, or maybe they'll find that their pensions stop being paid, or maybe they'll be shocked to find themselves in the middle of a real Civil War.

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  70. Alden says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Me three, Clark and David. I think the two are related, and I maintain that conservatives (of the type in the comments here) CAN learn something from the constitutionalists and the constitutionalists CAN learn something from the conservatives.

    Unfortunately the constitution is whatever any random judge says it is and it’s been that way since 1804 Marbury vs Madison.

    Constitutionalists who are not attorneys really should learn constitutional law. Maybe buy the Gilbert’s Summary or any constitutional law test prep book.

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  71. @Achmed E. Newman
    Me three, Clark and David. I think the two are related, and I maintain that conservatives (of the type in the comments here) CAN learn something from the constitutionalists and the constitutionalists CAN learn something from the conservatives.

    I can agree with everyone on this. The US’s founding documents were a product of a particular people.

    It may be more proper to regard the rights as guaranteed under the Constitution as a set of privileges that were taken from the king by the Revolutionaries, who subsequently passed them on to their descendants. In other words, rights are property or they are nothing.

    We should think about citizenship in the same way: citizenship is property or it is nothing. And if you’re not a citizen, you’re a migrant worker and whoever hired you is responsible for you. And when the work’s done, you go back home.

    This is an idealized vision though. There is too much water under the bridge at this point so things will just have to run their course.

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    "I can agree with everyone on this. The US’s founding documents were a product of a particular people."

    At the time. But the Founding Fathers granted future generations with the liberty to decide for themselves what is to be the direction of their nation.

    "It may be more proper to regard the rights as guaranteed under the Constitution as a set of privileges that were taken from the king by the Revolutionaries, who subsequently passed them on to their descendants. In other words, rights are property or they are nothing."

    No. One does not "own" a right. Rights are granted or conferred. You exercise those rights. A group of people come together, agree to be governed, and create a framework by which to be governed, with rights generated by that government through the will of that group of people.

    "We should think about citizenship in the same way: citizenship is property or it is nothing. And if you’re not a citizen, you’re a migrant worker and whoever hired you is responsible for you. And when the work’s done, you go back home."

    Feel free to think in this odd way.
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  72. @Achmed E. Newman
    As much as I agree with the two conflicting replies, I think I can sum it up better:

    YOU! CANT! FIX! STUPID!

    These are neither smart nor wise people, we're seeing here. They will absolutely not understand your argument, Anon, with which I find nothing wrong, as long as you don't mind me substituting "crony capitalism" or "fascism" for your "modern capitalism".

    All these people have is phrases in their heads "white men are bad, mmmkaay", "capitalism is evil", and all the Marx BS and the creme de la creme of the worst bullshit of the 1960's. For cryin' out loud, they have not come up with a chant better than "Hey hey, ho, ho, something or other has got to go!" in 50-odd years!

    If they hadn't grown up spoiled in the remaining wealth of the western world, these people would be too stupid to get past 15 years old. How would you go about arguing the truth to them - by all means, beatings around the head and kneecaps would be a step in the right direction as far as changing hearts and minds.

    Not to mention how many of them are basically looking for a fight in the first place. You’re not speaking their language until you speak fist to the face, that’s for certain.

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  73. @unit472
    I'm too old for street fighting but I remember the day Desert Storm commenced. I was driving down Van Ness ave. in San Francisco when the scum came pouring out of Polk Gulch to block the road. I was behind a lady who was stopped at the light and honked and yelled for her to turn right before the mob could link arms and reach critical mass. She finally did just before the Doc Martin clad punks reached that side of the street. I yelled out of the car to 'get out of my way' and started forward. An orange haired creep ran up and kicked my car door and another jumped on the hood as I drove forward. Reaching out with my left hand I grabbed a handful of orange hair and accelerated. I heard a thud and found myself holding a chunk of orange hair and nothing else. I was doing about 25-30 when the person on the hood decided he better get off before I reached 40 or more. He bounced and rolled down the pavement but I was long gone. Looking behind me I saw other motorist pouring through the hole I had made in the demonstrators lines and they weren't slowing down or rendering assistance to the two dirtbags I had disposed of.

    let me get this straight. you accelerated more or less into a crowd of people, and built up a high speed (40mph) with someone on your hood.
    And this was for what? Because the ‘scum’ were against Desert Storm?
    I was once accosted by a beet-red faced English jerkoff and his wife at a protest against the Real Iraq War. This was in Spain, where he seemed to be holidaying. He seemed extremely agitated that a ‘white’ dude like me would join the little Spaniards in condemning the war. I yelled back at him (there was quite a din), What? You’re pro war?
    But obviously your ilk is.

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    Where did unit472 he say he supported Desert Storm? I opposed it, but I also oppose people who decide to express their opposition by preventing their fellow citizens from going about their business. If you don't like a government policy, address the government, don't go around bothering random people who aren't bothering you. The Constitution says "...the right to assemble peaceably...". Keeping me from going home is not peaceable.
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  74. @Junior

    And by all accounts, it was the nationalists who came out on top.

     

    Utter bullshit. The ONLY ones that won are Soros and his globalist scumbag buddies who are off somewhere laughing their asses off that their plan for instigating a Civil War in America are working to a TEE. The Mayor of Berkeley and his Police Chief should be put in jail for telling the Police to stand down and allowing this insanity to escalate.

    ‘Soros and his globalist scumbag buddies who are off somewhere laughing their asses off that their plan for instigating a Civil War in America are working to a TEE.’

    No doubt. Has anyone else watched any video of the crazy little ‘professor’ Yvette Falarca and her little group of twits By Any Means Necessary?

    Her description of fascism is just what she is doing. Also in the video is Chomsky defining terrorism, which the concurrently running video shows is precisely what she and her group are practicing. This is nothing to do with real anti fascism (but she seems to be embarking on a high flying career). Anti free speech IS fascism.

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    Great video! Thanks for sharing it!

    The woman definitely should be arrested.
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  75. @animalogic
    Although not American, it's my opinion the essence of American patriotism is loyalty to it's founding documents: the constitution & amendments.
    Freedom of speech/expression is a key element of the founding document. NO political persuasion has a right to suppress legitimate free speech (& we all know, ALL sides of politics have tried it).
    The answer to speech with which you disagree to MORE (rational, evidence based) free speech.
    As a personal aside, I find it completely mind boggling that people of the Left should not merely encourage, but aggressively pursue attacks on free speech. It is politically idiotic, historically perverted & morally despicable.
    I wonder whether their actions are evidence of a continuing Moronic attachment to post modernism ? If reality is no more than "discourse" & subjectivity (like culture) is merely an affect of discourse (we don't actually think, discourse thinks us into existence -- blar !!) then perhaps a speech at a university is equivalent to a Titanic star wars like struggle between "good & evil" ? Or perhaps they're just a pack of adolescent wankers...?

    ‘ I find it completely mind boggling that people of the Left should not merely encourage, but aggressively pursue attacks on free speech. It is politically idiotic, historically perverted & morally despicable.’

    Absolutely. Someone’s getting paid to swindle the kids–kids that age can get swept up in anything (remember Manson?), and that fact is most cynically exploited to the full. Wake up, kiddies! You and your good intentions are being used.

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  76. @Authenticjazzman
    " I wonder whether their actions are evidence of a continuing Moronic attachment to post modernism?"

    Nope you are trying to rationalize their " Actions" when fact is the only impedus behind their actions is their Insanity, they are simply insane, and no amount of disecting of their motivations, demands, no amount of trying to discover any regardable motivations will ever come up with bonifide answers as to why they are doing what they are doing.
    The time has come to realize that the sane segment of the US population is being attacked by lunatics who are hell-bent upon destroying the nation as it is, with the goal of installing what they consider to be "Marxism", basta.
    One totally ignored aspect of this pandemonia and mayhem is the actual source of the concepts and jargon/labels employed by these lunatics, and that being : Germany = "Antifa" being the title for german leftist street gangs for decades, and "Green" the handle for the german leftist environmentalist crazies.
    When one considers that most of the destructive concepts wraught upon mankind within the last last five hundred years : Psychology, communism, socialism, fascism, mind-altering drugs, etc, have come out of Germany, and that Germany now is perhaps the most radical leftist nation on earth, it then behooves to keep this strange constellation in mind, along with the recogition that the Germans harbor the most bizzare, wierd hatred for US Republicans anywhere on earth, and they love, without being able to explain why, they worship the US democrats and HC/BC/BO, with no knowledge whatsoever of the sordid backgrounds of these scoundrels.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz artist.

    ” I wonder whether their actions are evidence of a continuing Moronic attachment to post modernism?”
    Nope you are trying to rationalize their ” Actions” when fact is the only impedus behind their actions is their Insanity, they are simply insane, and no amount of disecting of their motivations, demands, no amount of trying to discover any regardable motivations will ever come up with bonifide answers as to why they are doing what they are doing.

    Okay, dude, that’s just silly. This is without a doubt understandable, and they’re mostly not insane. They’re being used (see my earlier post).

    As for attachment to post modernism, I’m not sure what is meant by that. Is it people like Foucault? Or just the moronic movie/facebook/shite music culture? If yes, I completely agree.

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    This is without a doubt understandable, and they’re mostly not insane. They’re being used (see my earlier post).
     
    Yep, they're what Lenin referred to as "Useful Idiots".
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    No worries, Mr. Kirkpatrick, I believe everything will work out fine in the end, but you are correct, I also worry about a potential escalation of violence. In my opinion, the Alt Right should stay out of street fights in general. We have the interwebs, after all, to spread the word.

    The pen/keyboard is mightier than the sword.

    Even though Donald Trump denies it in the following interview; he, in my opinion, most decidedly is a Rockefeller Republican, but it is not at all a bad thing. Mr. Sailer commented on this in detail in November of 2016:

    Trump as the New Nelson Rockefeller

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/trump-as-the-new-nelson-rockefeller/

    Donald Trump Interview 1988 Republican convention

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI

    Uploaded on Jan 30, 2012

    Larry king interviews Donald Trump at the 1988 republican convention

    This is Trump to a T, in my opinion:

    A politician who self-described as having a “Democrat heart with a Republican head,” Nelson Rockefeller would be something of a political anomaly today. Biographer Richard Norton Smith, author of “On His Own Terms,” joins Judy Woodruff to discuss what distinguished the four-time New York governor and former vice president.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/not-a-lot-of-progress-in-thinking-about-unwanted-sexual-advances-since-anita-hill/#comment-1610711

    Trump is neither a fascist nor a racist. He is a patriot, with an understandable and justified Anglo-Saxon bias, just like William N. Vaile
    [...]
    He is a modern-day, Big Stick Roosevelt/Rockefeller Republican, in my opinion.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/plee/trump-we-wish-the-problem-was-fascism/#comment-1617650

    If true, Trump’s best Cabinet pick yet, in my opinion.

    And his first “Rockefeller Republican” pick, which I have been waiting for.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-latest-conspiracy/#comment-1687344

    On Bannon, etc. I recommend to watch Roger Stone's recent interview with Chuck Todd. This video could soon be deleted on copyright infringement grounds though. Mr. Stone says that Bannon failed to fill spots in the administration with nationalists and now he is isolated, alone and vulnerable. I agree with Mr. Stone's assessment of the situation:

    Chuck Todd Vs Roger Stone Face Off: ‘Do You Understand Why You’re a Suspect?’ Full Interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehszm3HDUNA

    I also want to make clear, that I think, that Steve Bannon is an American Patriot, and that without his help Donald Trump would not have won the election, but I also think some of his worldview is unrefined and contradictory, and therefore could be a liability and weakness going forward
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653271

    In my opinion, Donald Trump is a WASP agent/advocate as well, and that is why I support him
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653850

    like yourself I was initially skeptical of Donald Trump, so I performed some Extreme Vetting of my own on him in September of 2015. The results were overwhelming positive and beneficial for the United States of America, and that is the reason I decided to throw my support behind Donald Trump from relatively early on in the race.

    Please, see my following post here on the Unz Review and read all my previous posts I linked to there, and you will understand why I trust Donald Trump and have such confidence in him. Maybe this, admittedly rather esoteric, knowledge can put your heart and mind at ease as well: http://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1654918

    The biggest threat to Trump is this, in my opinion:

    There is probably no one who pushes the Zionist-Vatican alliance and agenda harder than the Murdoch media empire
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    Rupert Murdoch’s Heat Street is attacking the Unz Review, Vdare.com and Mr. Sailer.

    In 2016 wikileaks revealed that despite it’s claims of conservative ideology the editor of [Heat Street] Louise Mensch secretly created advertising for liberal democrat Hillary Clinton during her failed run for President of the United States. Mensch has threatened to sue the journalists at wikileaks for revealing her support of Clinton publicly.[9]
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-long-election-stage-two/#comment-1659662

    [Wendi Deng Murdoch] is also “besties” with Ivanka Trump. How much does she influence Ivanka and Jared, who in turn then influence Donald Trump?
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839275

    Not being Donald Trump, but especially not being Steve Bannon fanboys is the key to Make America truly Great Again… in my humble opinion.

    Ann Coulter is doing a great job of putting pressure on Trump, Bannon, et al.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839462

    Jared’s family being big supporters of the State of Israel.

    For Kushner, Israel Policy May Be Shaped by the Personal

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/us/politics/jared-kushner-israel.html
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839604

    Minor correction: The results were *overwhelmingly* positive and beneficial for the United States of America…

    This is a long comment, but I think it is important to present my case here in detail.

    The more Trump surrounds himself with conservatives and the less with Alt Righters, the higher the probability his presidency will be a failure.
    [...]
    The Alt Right and its ideas will continue on long after Donald Trump has left office. If he wants to leave a lasting legacy based on science and common sense ( “common sense conservatism” how he referred to it himself during the campaign) he will have to adopt reality-based Alt Right ideas/policies and employ (more) Alt Right personnel and advisors.
    [...]
    Bannon on the evidence is actually a civic nationalist who has specifically denounced racism and, if anything, is showing troubling signs of moving towards the “DemsRRealRacist”- style talking points which led Conservatism Inc. to disaster.

    http://www.unz.com/article/two-cheers-for-trump-advisor-mike-anton-he-has-the-right-enemies/#comment-1770554

    I will argue in this comment why the Alt Right, in my opinion, should not worry about or maybe even be somewhat glad about Steve Bannon’s diminishing power and role in the White House and within the Trump administration.

    My main contention and assertion is that I believe that Donald Trump is more trustworthy and “Alt Right” than Steve Bannon is or ever was.

    I start off with an excerpt from an earlier comment of mine from November 2016, what I see as the central weakness of Steve Bannon’s worldview:

    [MORE]

    Bannon’s Vatican talk defies brief summary, but his strongest theme is the need to imbed capitalism in some kind of firm ethical order based on patriotism and Christian morality. Without that imbedding, he says, what you get is Third World-style crony capitalism or Putinesque state capitalism.
    [...]
    The problem is, in my opinion, that Bannon tries to ally with and reform/manipulate the Roman Catholic Church, which won’t happen. They will co-opt him, he won’t co-opt them. This, I think, is Steve Bannon’s biggest blind spot, and the danger I see with him cozying up to the Vatican.

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/dawn-of-the-trumpening-jeff-sessions-for-attorney-general-steve-bannon-for-pope/#comment-1658362

    Followed by these excerpts from another earlier comments of mine:

    Breitbart’s mission, he said, calls for “more voices, not less,” with no single line of thought dominating the site. Race-based nationalism, he said, is a “non-starter.”
    [...]
    The article gives further clues as to why Mr. Bannon was probably in favor of the Betsy DeVos appointment as Secretary of Education and why he likely supports her school voucher advocacy
    [...]
    I wonder what John Calvin would make of Abraham Kuyper’s and Betsy DeVos’ pro-Papacy politics and philosophy/theology? [...] It almost appears that Neo-Calvinism is to Calvinism, what Neo-Conservatism is to Conservatism.

    http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665508

    What the Alt Right Isn’t

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2016/10/what-the-alt-right-isnt/

    1. Not Fighting for the One True Faith
    In the end, those fighting to impose the “One True Faith” do not care if we survive as a people. Ask any true believer and they will tell you that they have more in common with their co-religionist from the Congo than with a professor at MIT. The saddest thing is, sometimes it’s true. [...]
    2. Not Lobbying for the Interests of the Bourgeoisie
    Gavin McInnes thinks that “revering the entrepreneur,” not masturbating, and wearing a suit 3 times a week will stop the destruction of our civilization.
    3. Not Wishing for the State to Disappear
    Our enemies can only be exiled and brought to heel by a strong state. Our future as a people, a collective future that still gives enough leeway to the individual to allow genius to flourish, can only be guaranteed by a White Nationalist state. And of course, it is only a white state, not a soulless corporation or a mixed-race state, which will colonize space.
    6. Not Repeating the Lie of “Judeo-Christian” Civilization
    Remember that the Tea Party was a genuine grass roots movement that largely grew as a continuation of the Ron Paul campaign. FreedomWorks was created by the Koch Brothers and funded by their fellow oligarchs to rein in this movement. They made very generous grants to local Tea Party groups as long as they agreed not to criticize neocon war-mongering, mass immigration, or the Federal Reserve. Within a year they were successful. Glenn Beck and the Zionist-bankrolled Pastor Hagee started national networks and put on large spectacles to divert energy of Tea Party sympathizers toward the neocon agenda. The 2010 midterm election was the last time Tea Party has had an impact on government. If we are not aware of this risk, our brief moment in the sun will be followed by a decade in the darkness.

    It seems to me that the Mercer/Prince/DeVos, etc. families are the Koch Brothers of the Alt Right movement, and Steve Bannon is their agent:

    Their data firm, Cambridge Analytica, was hired by the Cruz campaign. They switched to support Trump shortly after he clinched the nomination, and he eventually hired Cambridge Analytica, as well.
    Their top political guru is Steve Bannon, the former Breitbart News chairman and White House chief strategist. They’re close, too, with Trump’s campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, who also has a senior role in the White House.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/no-one-knows-what-the-powerful-mercers-really-want/514529/

    Erik Prince is very close to Robert Mercer. Prince was also at the “Heroes and Villains” party that Mercer threw in Long Island after the election. And, in fact, there’s a picture that Peter Thiel, the right-wing billionaire who destroyed Gawker—a picture of Peter Thiel, Donald Trump and Erik Prince, that Peter Thiel says is not safe for the internet. But it’s clear that Erik Prince, through Betsy DeVos, through Robert Mercer and through his very right-wing paramilitary crowd, has the ear of President-elect Donald Trump.

    https://www.democracynow.org/2017/1/18/scahill_blackwater_founder_erik_prince_the

    Luckily the Alt Right was able to push back their infiltration and co-option attempts:

    A couple of weeks ago Steve Bannon’s protege and surrogate Milo Yiannopoulos ( read my posts, and follow the links in them, in this thread, for more details: http://www.unz.com/isteve/donald-trump-messiah-of-american-education/#comment-1663331 ) attempted to hijack and co-opt the Alt Right movement [...] I also want to give credit to Andrew Anglin for countering Milo Yiannopoulos’ intrusion into and attempted co-option of the Alt Right movement.

    http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1664291

    The infiltration and invasion of the ‘Alt Lite’ (not the Alt Right) by the Zionist-Vatican alliance intensifies:
    An Honest Conversation About Blackwater | Erik Prince and Stefan Molyneux
    [...]
    Betsy DeVos is Eri[k] Prince’s elder sister…
    [...]
    Without taking into account the Vatican element, one cannot fully understand the logic of Invade the World/Invite the World , in my opinion. [...]

    Erik Prince of Blackwater infamy is a convert to Roman Catholicism
    [...]
    The Zionist-Vatican alliance wanted to get rid of the authentic Alt Right after their intrusion was repelled and their co-option failed

    http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665634

    I agree, that was a not so subtle and elegant attempt at misdirection, but there is an issue with Milo Yiannopoulos
    [...] Hunter Wallace a.k.a. Brad Griffin wrote about it here:
    No, It’s Not MILO’s World http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2016/12/31/no-its-not-milos-world/

    http://www.unz.com/article/precedents-for-pizzagate/#comment-1720784

    Breitbart’s Man in Rome: A Gentle Voice in a Strident Chorus

    To man the fort in Rome, Stephen K. Bannon, then Breitbart’s chief executive and now Mr. Trump’s chief White House strategist, turned to Mr. Williams, a telegenic and polyglot theologian who had spoken for the Vatican and defended the leader of his conservative religious order against accusations of child molestation (ultimately proved true). Mr. Williams himself then left the priesthood in disgrace when it emerged that he had broken his vows of celibacy and fathered a son.
    At the time, Mr. Williams was the face of the conservative Legion of Christ religious order.

    http://www.unz.com/article/precedents-for-pizzagate/#comment-1722323

    Mr. Hart, in my opinion, correctly observed the Protestant nature of the Alt Right in his April 2016 article titled: Neocons Want To Destroy Alt Right, Bring Back Buckley-Style Excommunications. Too Bad. http://www.vdare.com/articles/neocons-want-to-destroy-alt-right-bring-back-buckley-style-excommunications-too-bad

    Significantly, if one wanted to make an analogy, much more relevant to American history, of a once-infallible religious leader facing threats from multiple schools of thought using a new technology to spread their message, Martin Luther, not Mohammed comes to mind.

    http://www.unz.com/article/what-can-msmclinton-say-about-alt-right-that-theyve-not-already-said-about-trumpgop/#comment-1561897

    I hope President Trump stays healthy and alive during his term, because his running mate Mike Pence is not exactly a Protestant

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    I tried to give Steve Bannon the benefit of the doubt, but I think you are pretty much spot on with your characterization of him ‘He sounds very much like a Catholic neocon type.
    [...]
    Let us hope, that they won’t succeed to turn [Trump] and his administration into a Zionist-Vatican alliance puppet… I will do everything in my power to not let that happen!

    http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665789

    I don’t know what the future will bring, but I have always trusted Donald Trump and his judgement more than I have trusted Steve Bannon and his judgement.

    In my opinion, both Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner are no good, and Bannon is no true ally of the Alt Right.
    We need to keep supporting Donald Trump and steer him in the right direction and hold him accountable when he veers off the “Make America Great Again” and “America First” path.

    As I mentioned before, I think Ann Coulter is doing a great job at gently and encouragingly giving Donald Trump “tough love” when he needs/deserves it.

    My ideal scenario for the Trump administration would be if Trump fired both Bannon and Kushner and in their place hired Steve Sailer as his new chief strategist and top advisor ha ha ha, this would ensure that there would be zero chance of a “Invade the World/Invite the World” policy, plus Mr. Sailer would encourage President Trump to send lots of birth control foreign aid to Africa and the rest of the Third World and to declare “war” on cousin marriage in the Middle East. What an awesome vision ha ha ha

    Trump’s Latest Triumph: Making It Appropriate to Worry About the African Overpopulation Crisis

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/trumps-latest-triumph-making-it-appropriate-to-worry-about-the-african-population-crisis/

    Not only is Trump completing the system of German idealism that Kant couldn’t, but Trump has finally made it appropriate for nice white people to worry about the World’s Most Important Graph.

    You see, as long as you can Blame Trump for Africa’s burgeoning billions, it’s not racist to think white people ought to do more to keep Africans from having so many babies.

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    Minor correction: Followed by these excerpts from another earlier *comment* of mine

    At a discouraging point in the 1964 primary campaign against Barry Goldwater in California, political operative Stuart Spencer called on Rockefeller to "summon that fabled nexus of money, influence, and condescension known as the Eastern Establishment. 'You are looking at it, buddy,' Rockefeller told Spencer. 'I am all that is left.'"[1]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_Republican

    In a way 2016 was a repeat of the 1964 Republican primary, in my opinion, though with a different outcome: the Rockefeller Republican (Donald Trump) defeated the Goldwater Republican (Ted Cruz).

    Could Nelson Rockefeller (Donald Trump) have defeated LBJ (Hillary Clinton) in the 1964 general election and could the U.S. have avoided the Hart-Celler Act that way? Intriguing possibility to contemplate... was Rockefeller in favor of the 1965 immigration bill or not? He attended its signing as the Governor of New York State: https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2014/11/29/book-review-his-own-terms-life-nelson-rockefeller-richard-norton-smith/vlBOEfOibGRcG5Mg7OPKpK/story.html

    Although few historians believe that the INA’s champions anticipated just how profoundly it would change the U.S. demographic landscape, Johnson recognized that its passage was especially significant—enough so that he oversaw the staging of an elaborate signing ceremony at the base of the Statue of Liberty. True to form, White House staffers were given strict instructions by the president to physically block political rivals like New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller from the cameras assembled on the dais at Liberty Island.
     
    - https://millercenter.org/issues-policy/us-domestic-policy/reluctant-reformer

    Any other Democrat except Hillary Clinton would have beaten Donald Trump.

    Any other Republican except Donald Trump would have lost to Hillary Clinton.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/slate-trump-didnt-win-rust-belt-so-much-as-hillary-lost-it/#comment-1672340

    Sometimes I wonder if Barry Goldwater's main purpose and mission was to sabotage Nelson Rockefeller so the Hart-Celler Act could be passed and the Vietnam War could be continued?

    Was Ted Cruz supposed to play the same role in 2016 as Barry Goldwater did in 1964, so Hillary could be elected to pass Amnesty and open America's borders even further to immigration from the rest of the (Catholic) World and to start and continue new and old wars?

    Here one of my comments on Eugene McCarthy and Catholic Vietnamese, etc. immigrants/refugees. Again, we see the Vatican-inspired “Invade (Protect) the (Catholic) World/Invite the (Catholic) World” scheme play out
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1688097

    During the 1964 presidential election, Spellman supported Lyndon B. Johnson, whose Higher Education Facilities Act and Economic Opportunity Act had greatly benefited the Church.
    [...]
    Spellman was an outspoken supporter of the Vietnam War, to the extent that the conflict became known as “Spelly’s War”
    [...]
    Perhaps [Ted Kennedy] had some Irish immigrant chips on his shoulder about WASPS disrespecting his family. If he disliked the balance of power among the citizens of this country, wildly increasing immigration levels could largely shift the balance of political power and ideology in the country.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1689501
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  78. @Authenticjazzman
    He ( DT) knows what is going on and he is doing the right thing by simply letting it play out, the worst thing he could do now is to interfere.
    The masked leftist nutcases are in for some bombastic surprises, as the the patriots have let themselves be vilified and and victimized for too long and the piper will now be paid.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz artist.

    ‘He ( DT) knows what is going on and he is doing the right thing by simply letting it play out, the worst thing he could do now is to interfere.
    The masked leftist nutcases are in for some bombastic surprises’…..blah blah

    You sound EXACTLY like the old Obama supporters, who KNEW, they just KNEW, his heart was in the right place, and he really really wanted to do the right thing (by them). Trump has already proved himself to be a lying piece of shit.
    Some mensa man! You think you’re smart because you’ve got a bunch of pencils sticking out of your shirt pocket?

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  79. @Clark Westwood

    I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get.
     
    I was thinking the same thing.

    ‘ I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get.
    I was thinking the same thing.’

    I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but the original Anglo-Saxons have a Queen and an Aristocracy. America’s Constitution was (ostensibly) created to PREVENT that happening in America. My understanding is that much of it came from a similar Constitution of the Iroquois Nation, I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong.

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    That "Iroquois constitution" as an inspiration for the Founders is a lot of multi-cult propaganda, inserting People of Color where they did not belong. The Founders looked to the Roman Republic, the Venetian Republic, and to British political philosophers, along with a few Continental thinkers. The old gadfly Ben Franklin made some mention of Injun government, and was not laughed at due to his venerable status, that's all.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    The Great Law of Peace was an oral tradition represented in pictographs on wampum belts, with a lot of prescriptions for rituals and rules of succession. It was not influential on the Constitutional Convention; that's an attenuated thesis by a few enamored historians.

    The Constitution was a distillation of Enlightenment-era thought from the British Isles.
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  80. @Anatoly Karlin

    This was just a initial skirmish, knives will come first since they don’t attract attention then will come the guns.
     
    Seems to have already happened:

    What happened next was so quick that I'm still trying to make sense of what happened. I immediately charged in to rescue the kid, fearing that he would be murdered. By the time I fought my way to the kid, he was on the ground with at least a dozen Antifa thugs kicking him. I was the first Trump-Soldier to arrive to defend the kid. The next few seconds were the most desperate fighting of my life. I was alone, surrounded, out-numbered and without fear. Back up arrived and we succeeded in rescuing the kid.

    As I was picking up my MAGA hat, a fellow Trump-Soldier told me that I had been stabbed during that fight. I had in fact been stabbed in the gut, just below my left rib cage. My immediate thought was to get to the safety of the rear while also giving no indication to the enemy that I was injured. Antifa has the courage of carrion-birds, so I walked to the rear with my head up and my shoulders back like a Soldier in order to discourage pursuit. This had the additional effect of denying the enemy the morale boost that they would have gotten by seeing an injured Trump-Soldier. Other Trump-Soldiers moved into position to cover my withdrawal.

    It was a long walk to get to the police for medical attention. I don't know how the battle went after I was MEDIVAC'd, but twitter is saying its a total Trump Victory. Recovery is going well. The knife caused minor damage. Oddly enough I'm in more pain from the surgery incisions than the actual stab wound.
     

    ‘a fellow Trump-Soldier told me’

    Trump-Soldier. I love it. The new term for misguided imbecilic clown.
    To top all, Trump’s a fucking smug, lying, piece of shit hypocrite.

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  81. Discard says:
    @daniel le mouche
    let me get this straight. you accelerated more or less into a crowd of people, and built up a high speed (40mph) with someone on your hood.
    And this was for what? Because the 'scum' were against Desert Storm?
    I was once accosted by a beet-red faced English jerkoff and his wife at a protest against the Real Iraq War. This was in Spain, where he seemed to be holidaying. He seemed extremely agitated that a 'white' dude like me would join the little Spaniards in condemning the war. I yelled back at him (there was quite a din), What? You're pro war?
    But obviously your ilk is.

    Where did unit472 he say he supported Desert Storm? I opposed it, but I also oppose people who decide to express their opposition by preventing their fellow citizens from going about their business. If you don’t like a government policy, address the government, don’t go around bothering random people who aren’t bothering you. The Constitution says “…the right to assemble peaceably…”. Keeping me from going home is not peaceable.

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  82. @Bill
    Patriotism. Love of country. Love in the Christian sense of "willing the good of." Thus, an American patriot wills the good of his country.

    It's hard to overstate how stupid "America the idea" is. It's like "America the rhombus" or "America the azure colored fish." It's so far from right it isn't even wrong.

    If America is a country, rather than an idea, then what is a country? A country is a collection of people together with their shared history, culture, folkways, and etc. An "America" inhabited by Punjabis would not be America, no matter how devoted the Punjabis were to Bill Kristol's interpretations of Thomas Jefferson's scribblings. His scribblings are, of course, part of the shared history of America. Like slavery. But they aren't all of it or even the essence of it or even a necessary part of it.

    Hey He-man Trump-Soldier,
    ‘It’s hard to overstate how stupid “America the idea” is.’

    The foreign writer you attempt to belittle knows more about America than you do, it seems. That commenter made the absolutely correct assertion that the very essence of being American is the Constitution, and all the freedoms codified therein. Is America not, in essence, the Freedom of Speech? Even the Right to Bear Arms against a totalitarian regime? (Of course, it was presupposed that the population would be intelligent and educated, as well as courageous, enough to organize a real takeover, or taking back, of the government, which it turned out is exactly NOT what happened with the election of Saviour Donald by Fox News-watching good old boys!)

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75wCTMZoSY
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  83. Discard says:
    @daniel le mouche
    ' I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get.
    I was thinking the same thing.'

    I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the original Anglo-Saxons have a Queen and an Aristocracy. America's Constitution was (ostensibly) created to PREVENT that happening in America. My understanding is that much of it came from a similar Constitution of the Iroquois Nation, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

    That “Iroquois constitution” as an inspiration for the Founders is a lot of multi-cult propaganda, inserting People of Color where they did not belong. The Founders looked to the Roman Republic, the Venetian Republic, and to British political philosophers, along with a few Continental thinkers. The old gadfly Ben Franklin made some mention of Injun government, and was not laughed at due to his venerable status, that’s all.

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    "That “Iroquois constitution” as an inspiration for the Founders is a lot of multi-cult propaganda."

    Please educate yourself.

    https://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/hconres331.pdf

    http://www.nytimes.com/1987/06/28/us/iroquois-constitution-a-forerunner-to-colonists-democratic-principles.html
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  84. Venator says:
    @Bill
    You've got "coward" and "man" confused.

    You are right. Maybe a coward will bring a gun. Then what?

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    He stains his pants?
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  85. Svigor says:

    Naturally, the Main Stream Media is outraged. The same people who were feting antifa violence at the inauguration and writing puff pieces about the Black Blocs are demanding a crackdown. One Shane Bauer of Mother Jones spent the day chronicling the Left’s defeat and occupied himself the following morning screaming for everyone (including President Trump) to condemn the right wing protesters. Of course, it was Mother Jones which wrote a gushing article about antifa just after Richard Spencer was sucker punched. [The Long History of “Nazi Punching,” by Wes Enzinna, Mother Jones, January 26, 2017]

    Leftists are basically children in adults’ bodies. Most children don’t care if they got whupped fair and square, they just want Daddy to go and get revenge.

    The last thing leftists want is a fair fight. Deplorables would crush them.

    But the new movement that is emerging is not dependent on Trump himself.

    Amen. Eventually, the Right will be strong enough to point “their” politicians to one side, tell them to sit down and keep their mouths shut, while the Right handles business. “Just stand there and smile for the cameras, asshole.” And as you say, they will be left behind at the first opportunity and replaced with men.

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  86. Svigor says:

    The foreign writer you attempt to belittle knows more about America than you do, it seems. That commenter made the absolutely correct assertion that the very essence of being American is the Constitution, and all the freedoms codified therein. Is America not, in essence, the Freedom of Speech? Even the Right to Bear Arms against a totalitarian regime? (Of course, it was presupposed that the population would be intelligent and educated, as well as courageous, enough to organize a real takeover, or taking back, of the government, which it turned out is exactly NOT what happened with the election of Saviour Donald by Fox News-watching good old boys!)

    None of that is worth a dried pile of turd apart from the people who created and uphold it.

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    None of that is worth a dried pile of turd apart from the people who created and uphold it.
     
    I think you need both--the right people and the right laws/institutions. The question (for me) is whether any people other than (ancestral) Western Europeans -- perhaps just Northern Western Europeans -- is capable of making proper use of the right laws/institutions. That's what worries me most about unchecked immigration -- that we'll lose the critical mass of WASPs who keep America basically working in the form in which we inherited it.
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  87. Corvinus says:
    @Discard
    That "Iroquois constitution" as an inspiration for the Founders is a lot of multi-cult propaganda, inserting People of Color where they did not belong. The Founders looked to the Roman Republic, the Venetian Republic, and to British political philosophers, along with a few Continental thinkers. The old gadfly Ben Franklin made some mention of Injun government, and was not laughed at due to his venerable status, that's all.

    “That “Iroquois constitution” as an inspiration for the Founders is a lot of multi-cult propaganda.”

    Please educate yourself.

    https://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/hconres331.pdf

    http://www.nytimes.com/1987/06/28/us/iroquois-constitution-a-forerunner-to-colonists-democratic-principles.html

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  88. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    I can agree with everyone on this. The US's founding documents were a product of a particular people.

    It may be more proper to regard the rights as guaranteed under the Constitution as a set of privileges that were taken from the king by the Revolutionaries, who subsequently passed them on to their descendants. In other words, rights are property or they are nothing.

    We should think about citizenship in the same way: citizenship is property or it is nothing. And if you're not a citizen, you're a migrant worker and whoever hired you is responsible for you. And when the work's done, you go back home.

    This is an idealized vision though. There is too much water under the bridge at this point so things will just have to run their course.

    “I can agree with everyone on this. The US’s founding documents were a product of a particular people.”

    At the time. But the Founding Fathers granted future generations with the liberty to decide for themselves what is to be the direction of their nation.

    “It may be more proper to regard the rights as guaranteed under the Constitution as a set of privileges that were taken from the king by the Revolutionaries, who subsequently passed them on to their descendants. In other words, rights are property or they are nothing.”

    No. One does not “own” a right. Rights are granted or conferred. You exercise those rights. A group of people come together, agree to be governed, and create a framework by which to be governed, with rights generated by that government through the will of that group of people.

    “We should think about citizenship in the same way: citizenship is property or it is nothing. And if you’re not a citizen, you’re a migrant worker and whoever hired you is responsible for you. And when the work’s done, you go back home.”

    Feel free to think in this odd way.

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    You are such a muddled thinker, it would take five pages just to get you to "wrong."
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  89. FKA Max says:
    @FKA Max
    No worries, Mr. Kirkpatrick, I believe everything will work out fine in the end, but you are correct, I also worry about a potential escalation of violence. In my opinion, the Alt Right should stay out of street fights in general. We have the interwebs, after all, to spread the word.

    The pen/keyboard is mightier than the sword.

    Even though Donald Trump denies it in the following interview; he, in my opinion, most decidedly is a Rockefeller Republican, but it is not at all a bad thing. Mr. Sailer commented on this in detail in November of 2016:

    Trump as the New Nelson Rockefeller

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/trump-as-the-new-nelson-rockefeller/

    Donald Trump Interview 1988 Republican convention

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI

    Uploaded on Jan 30, 2012

    Larry king interviews Donald Trump at the 1988 republican convention

    This is Trump to a T, in my opinion:

    A politician who self-described as having a “Democrat heart with a Republican head,” Nelson Rockefeller would be something of a political anomaly today. Biographer Richard Norton Smith, author of “On His Own Terms,” joins Judy Woodruff to discuss what distinguished the four-time New York governor and former vice president.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/not-a-lot-of-progress-in-thinking-about-unwanted-sexual-advances-since-anita-hill/#comment-1610711

    Trump is neither a fascist nor a racist. He is a patriot, with an understandable and justified Anglo-Saxon bias, just like William N. Vaile
    [...]
    He is a modern-day, Big Stick Roosevelt/Rockefeller Republican, in my opinion.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/plee/trump-we-wish-the-problem-was-fascism/#comment-1617650

    If true, Trump’s best Cabinet pick yet, in my opinion.

    And his first “Rockefeller Republican” pick, which I have been waiting for.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-latest-conspiracy/#comment-1687344

    On Bannon, etc. I recommend to watch Roger Stone's recent interview with Chuck Todd. This video could soon be deleted on copyright infringement grounds though. Mr. Stone says that Bannon failed to fill spots in the administration with nationalists and now he is isolated, alone and vulnerable. I agree with Mr. Stone's assessment of the situation:

    Chuck Todd Vs Roger Stone Face Off: ‘Do You Understand Why You’re a Suspect?’ Full Interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehszm3HDUNA

    I also want to make clear, that I think, that Steve Bannon is an American Patriot, and that without his help Donald Trump would not have won the election, but I also think some of his worldview is unrefined and contradictory, and therefore could be a liability and weakness going forward
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653271

    In my opinion, Donald Trump is a WASP agent/advocate as well, and that is why I support him
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653850

    like yourself I was initially skeptical of Donald Trump, so I performed some Extreme Vetting of my own on him in September of 2015. The results were overwhelming positive and beneficial for the United States of America, and that is the reason I decided to throw my support behind Donald Trump from relatively early on in the race.

    Please, see my following post here on the Unz Review and read all my previous posts I linked to there, and you will understand why I trust Donald Trump and have such confidence in him. Maybe this, admittedly rather esoteric, knowledge can put your heart and mind at ease as well: http://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1654918

    The biggest threat to Trump is this, in my opinion:

    There is probably no one who pushes the Zionist-Vatican alliance and agenda harder than the Murdoch media empire
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    Rupert Murdoch’s Heat Street is attacking the Unz Review, Vdare.com and Mr. Sailer.

    In 2016 wikileaks revealed that despite it’s claims of conservative ideology the editor of [Heat Street] Louise Mensch secretly created advertising for liberal democrat Hillary Clinton during her failed run for President of the United States. Mensch has threatened to sue the journalists at wikileaks for revealing her support of Clinton publicly.[9]
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-long-election-stage-two/#comment-1659662

    [Wendi Deng Murdoch] is also “besties” with Ivanka Trump. How much does she influence Ivanka and Jared, who in turn then influence Donald Trump?
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839275

    Not being Donald Trump, but especially not being Steve Bannon fanboys is the key to Make America truly Great Again… in my humble opinion.

    Ann Coulter is doing a great job of putting pressure on Trump, Bannon, et al.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839462

    Jared’s family being big supporters of the State of Israel.

    For Kushner, Israel Policy May Be Shaped by the Personal

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/us/politics/jared-kushner-israel.html
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839604

    Interesting article:

    Donald Trump: Nelson Rockefeller’s Revenge?
    by Keith Preston

    This presidential election is basically a contest between a Nixon (Clinton) and a Nelson Rockefeller (Trump).
    [...]
    Ironically, if Trump is successful at permanently marginalizing the neocons and Conservatism, Inc (and good for him if he accomplishes that) all that it means is that US politics would return to what it was in the 1970s before the coup by the neocon/neoliberal alliance, with the same range of ideological perspectives more or less being represented. I guess we could say that Trump is “Nelson Rockefeller’s revenge.”
    [...]
    It’s pretty clear at this point that Trump is going to be just another establishment politician. He started out as Pat Buchanan or George Wallace, then he transformed himself into Ross Perot, and, once again, he’s increasingly becoming Nelson Rockefeller (i.e. a billionaire plutocrat moderate to liberal statist authoritarian imperalist with a penchant for women and bad manners). This guy is basically the revenge of Rockefeller who was never able to make it to the presidency because he kept getting bypassed by the either the Goldwater-Reagan Sun Belt insurgency (or by Nixon who played the Rockefeller and Sun Belt wings of the GOP off against one another).

    https://attackthesystem.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-nelson-rockefellers-revenge/

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  90. Junior says:
    @daniel le mouche
    ” I wonder whether their actions are evidence of a continuing Moronic attachment to post modernism?”
    Nope you are trying to rationalize their ” Actions” when fact is the only impedus behind their actions is their Insanity, they are simply insane, and no amount of disecting of their motivations, demands, no amount of trying to discover any regardable motivations will ever come up with bonifide answers as to why they are doing what they are doing.

    Okay, dude, that's just silly. This is without a doubt understandable, and they're mostly not insane. They're being used (see my earlier post).

    As for attachment to post modernism, I'm not sure what is meant by that. Is it people like Foucault? Or just the moronic movie/facebook/shite music culture? If yes, I completely agree.

    This is without a doubt understandable, and they’re mostly not insane. They’re being used (see my earlier post).

    Yep, they’re what Lenin referred to as “Useful Idiots”.

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  91. Junior says:
    @daniel le mouche
    'Soros and his globalist scumbag buddies who are off somewhere laughing their asses off that their plan for instigating a Civil War in America are working to a TEE.'

    No doubt. Has anyone else watched any video of the crazy little 'professor' Yvette Falarca and her little group of twits By Any Means Necessary?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZn2fO2Rqy0
    Her description of fascism is just what she is doing. Also in the video is Chomsky defining terrorism, which the concurrently running video shows is precisely what she and her group are practicing. This is nothing to do with real anti fascism (but she seems to be embarking on a high flying career). Anti free speech IS fascism.

    Great video! Thanks for sharing it!

    The woman definitely should be arrested.

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  92. @FKA Max
    No worries, Mr. Kirkpatrick, I believe everything will work out fine in the end, but you are correct, I also worry about a potential escalation of violence. In my opinion, the Alt Right should stay out of street fights in general. We have the interwebs, after all, to spread the word.

    The pen/keyboard is mightier than the sword.

    Even though Donald Trump denies it in the following interview; he, in my opinion, most decidedly is a Rockefeller Republican, but it is not at all a bad thing. Mr. Sailer commented on this in detail in November of 2016:

    Trump as the New Nelson Rockefeller

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/trump-as-the-new-nelson-rockefeller/

    Donald Trump Interview 1988 Republican convention

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI

    Uploaded on Jan 30, 2012

    Larry king interviews Donald Trump at the 1988 republican convention

    This is Trump to a T, in my opinion:

    A politician who self-described as having a “Democrat heart with a Republican head,” Nelson Rockefeller would be something of a political anomaly today. Biographer Richard Norton Smith, author of “On His Own Terms,” joins Judy Woodruff to discuss what distinguished the four-time New York governor and former vice president.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/not-a-lot-of-progress-in-thinking-about-unwanted-sexual-advances-since-anita-hill/#comment-1610711

    Trump is neither a fascist nor a racist. He is a patriot, with an understandable and justified Anglo-Saxon bias, just like William N. Vaile
    [...]
    He is a modern-day, Big Stick Roosevelt/Rockefeller Republican, in my opinion.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/plee/trump-we-wish-the-problem-was-fascism/#comment-1617650

    If true, Trump’s best Cabinet pick yet, in my opinion.

    And his first “Rockefeller Republican” pick, which I have been waiting for.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-latest-conspiracy/#comment-1687344

    On Bannon, etc. I recommend to watch Roger Stone's recent interview with Chuck Todd. This video could soon be deleted on copyright infringement grounds though. Mr. Stone says that Bannon failed to fill spots in the administration with nationalists and now he is isolated, alone and vulnerable. I agree with Mr. Stone's assessment of the situation:

    Chuck Todd Vs Roger Stone Face Off: ‘Do You Understand Why You’re a Suspect?’ Full Interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehszm3HDUNA

    I also want to make clear, that I think, that Steve Bannon is an American Patriot, and that without his help Donald Trump would not have won the election, but I also think some of his worldview is unrefined and contradictory, and therefore could be a liability and weakness going forward
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653271

    In my opinion, Donald Trump is a WASP agent/advocate as well, and that is why I support him
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653850

    like yourself I was initially skeptical of Donald Trump, so I performed some Extreme Vetting of my own on him in September of 2015. The results were overwhelming positive and beneficial for the United States of America, and that is the reason I decided to throw my support behind Donald Trump from relatively early on in the race.

    Please, see my following post here on the Unz Review and read all my previous posts I linked to there, and you will understand why I trust Donald Trump and have such confidence in him. Maybe this, admittedly rather esoteric, knowledge can put your heart and mind at ease as well: http://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1654918

    The biggest threat to Trump is this, in my opinion:

    There is probably no one who pushes the Zionist-Vatican alliance and agenda harder than the Murdoch media empire
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    Rupert Murdoch’s Heat Street is attacking the Unz Review, Vdare.com and Mr. Sailer.

    In 2016 wikileaks revealed that despite it’s claims of conservative ideology the editor of [Heat Street] Louise Mensch secretly created advertising for liberal democrat Hillary Clinton during her failed run for President of the United States. Mensch has threatened to sue the journalists at wikileaks for revealing her support of Clinton publicly.[9]
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-long-election-stage-two/#comment-1659662

    [Wendi Deng Murdoch] is also “besties” with Ivanka Trump. How much does she influence Ivanka and Jared, who in turn then influence Donald Trump?
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839275

    Not being Donald Trump, but especially not being Steve Bannon fanboys is the key to Make America truly Great Again… in my humble opinion.

    Ann Coulter is doing a great job of putting pressure on Trump, Bannon, et al.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839462

    Jared’s family being big supporters of the State of Israel.

    For Kushner, Israel Policy May Be Shaped by the Personal

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/us/politics/jared-kushner-israel.html
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839604

    You will NEVER see an anti Israel administration in America. It will never happen. You Ron Paul butt boys will have to console yourselves with crappy articles by Giraldi and The Saker.

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    You will NEVER see an anti Israel administration in America.
     
    Obviously it will.

    The "invite the world" part of the neocon/SJW agenda inevitably leads to first a neutral and then eventually an anti-Israel policy - just a matter of time.

    It's why the more Likudite elements started drifting anti-SJW.
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  93. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max
    Minor correction: The results were *overwhelmingly* positive and beneficial for the United States of America...

    This is a long comment, but I think it is important to present my case here in detail.

    The more Trump surrounds himself with conservatives and the less with Alt Righters, the higher the probability his presidency will be a failure.
    [...]
    The Alt Right and its ideas will continue on long after Donald Trump has left office. If he wants to leave a lasting legacy based on science and common sense ( “common sense conservatism” how he referred to it himself during the campaign) he will have to adopt reality-based Alt Right ideas/policies and employ (more) Alt Right personnel and advisors.
    [...]
    Bannon on the evidence is actually a civic nationalist who has specifically denounced racism and, if anything, is showing troubling signs of moving towards the “DemsRRealRacist”- style talking points which led Conservatism Inc. to disaster.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/two-cheers-for-trump-advisor-mike-anton-he-has-the-right-enemies/#comment-1770554

    I will argue in this comment why the Alt Right, in my opinion, should not worry about or maybe even be somewhat glad about Steve Bannon's diminishing power and role in the White House and within the Trump administration.

    My main contention and assertion is that I believe that Donald Trump is more trustworthy and ``Alt Right'' than Steve Bannon is or ever was.

    I start off with an excerpt from an earlier comment of mine from November 2016, what I see as the central weakness of Steve Bannon's worldview:

    Bannon’s Vatican talk defies brief summary, but his strongest theme is the need to imbed capitalism in some kind of firm ethical order based on patriotism and Christian morality. Without that imbedding, he says, what you get is Third World-style crony capitalism or Putinesque state capitalism.
    [...]
    The problem is, in my opinion, that Bannon tries to ally with and reform/manipulate the Roman Catholic Church, which won’t happen. They will co-opt him, he won’t co-opt them. This, I think, is Steve Bannon’s biggest blind spot, and the danger I see with him cozying up to the Vatican.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/dawn-of-the-trumpening-jeff-sessions-for-attorney-general-steve-bannon-for-pope/#comment-1658362

    Followed by these excerpts from another earlier comments of mine:

    Breitbart’s mission, he said, calls for “more voices, not less,” with no single line of thought dominating the site. Race-based nationalism, he said, is a “non-starter.”
    [...]
    The article gives further clues as to why Mr. Bannon was probably in favor of the Betsy DeVos appointment as Secretary of Education and why he likely supports her school voucher advocacy
    [...]
    I wonder what John Calvin would make of Abraham Kuyper’s and Betsy DeVos’ pro-Papacy politics and philosophy/theology? [...] It almost appears that Neo-Calvinism is to Calvinism, what Neo-Conservatism is to Conservatism.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665508

    What the Alt Right Isn’t
    https://www.counter-currents.com/2016/10/what-the-alt-right-isnt/


    1. Not Fighting for the One True Faith
    In the end, those fighting to impose the “One True Faith” do not care if we survive as a people. Ask any true believer and they will tell you that they have more in common with their co-religionist from the Congo than with a professor at MIT. The saddest thing is, sometimes it’s true. [...]
    2. Not Lobbying for the Interests of the Bourgeoisie
    Gavin McInnes thinks that “revering the entrepreneur,” not masturbating, and wearing a suit 3 times a week will stop the destruction of our civilization.
    3. Not Wishing for the State to Disappear
    Our enemies can only be exiled and brought to heel by a strong state. Our future as a people, a collective future that still gives enough leeway to the individual to allow genius to flourish, can only be guaranteed by a White Nationalist state. And of course, it is only a white state, not a soulless corporation or a mixed-race state, which will colonize space.
    6. Not Repeating the Lie of “Judeo-Christian” Civilization
    Remember that the Tea Party was a genuine grass roots movement that largely grew as a continuation of the Ron Paul campaign. FreedomWorks was created by the Koch Brothers and funded by their fellow oligarchs to rein in this movement. They made very generous grants to local Tea Party groups as long as they agreed not to criticize neocon war-mongering, mass immigration, or the Federal Reserve. Within a year they were successful. Glenn Beck and the Zionist-bankrolled Pastor Hagee started national networks and put on large spectacles to divert energy of Tea Party sympathizers toward the neocon agenda. The 2010 midterm election was the last time Tea Party has had an impact on government. If we are not aware of this risk, our brief moment in the sun will be followed by a decade in the darkness.
     
    It seems to me that the Mercer/Prince/DeVos, etc. families are the Koch Brothers of the Alt Right movement, and Steve Bannon is their agent:

    Their data firm, Cambridge Analytica, was hired by the Cruz campaign. They switched to support Trump shortly after he clinched the nomination, and he eventually hired Cambridge Analytica, as well.
    Their top political guru is Steve Bannon, the former Breitbart News chairman and White House chief strategist. They’re close, too, with Trump’s campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, who also has a senior role in the White House.
     
    - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/no-one-knows-what-the-powerful-mercers-really-want/514529/

    Erik Prince is very close to Robert Mercer. Prince was also at the "Heroes and Villains" party that Mercer threw in Long Island after the election. And, in fact, there’s a picture that Peter Thiel, the right-wing billionaire who destroyed Gawker—a picture of Peter Thiel, Donald Trump and Erik Prince, that Peter Thiel says is not safe for the internet. But it’s clear that Erik Prince, through Betsy DeVos, through Robert Mercer and through his very right-wing paramilitary crowd, has the ear of President-elect Donald Trump.
     
    - https://www.democracynow.org/2017/1/18/scahill_blackwater_founder_erik_prince_the

    Luckily the Alt Right was able to push back their infiltration and co-option attempts:

    A couple of weeks ago Steve Bannon’s protege and surrogate Milo Yiannopoulos ( read my posts, and follow the links in them, in this thread, for more details: http://www.unz.com/isteve/donald-trump-messiah-of-american-education/#comment-1663331 ) attempted to hijack and co-opt the Alt Right movement [...] I also want to give credit to Andrew Anglin for countering Milo Yiannopoulos’ intrusion into and attempted co-option of the Alt Right movement.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1664291


    The infiltration and invasion of the ‘Alt Lite’ (not the Alt Right) by the Zionist-Vatican alliance intensifies:
    An Honest Conversation About Blackwater | Erik Prince and Stefan Molyneux
    [...]
    Betsy DeVos is Eri[k] Prince’s elder sister…
    [...]
    Without taking into account the Vatican element, one cannot fully understand the logic of Invade the World/Invite the World , in my opinion. [...]

    Erik Prince of Blackwater infamy is a convert to Roman Catholicism
    [...]
    The Zionist-Vatican alliance wanted to get rid of the authentic Alt Right after their intrusion was repelled and their co-option failed
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665634

    I agree, that was a not so subtle and elegant attempt at misdirection, but there is an issue with Milo Yiannopoulos
    [...] Hunter Wallace a.k.a. Brad Griffin wrote about it here:
    No, It’s Not MILO’s World http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2016/12/31/no-its-not-milos-world/
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/precedents-for-pizzagate/#comment-1720784

    Breitbart’s Man in Rome: A Gentle Voice in a Strident Chorus

    To man the fort in Rome, Stephen K. Bannon, then Breitbart’s chief executive and now Mr. Trump’s chief White House strategist, turned to Mr. Williams, a telegenic and polyglot theologian who had spoken for the Vatican and defended the leader of his conservative religious order against accusations of child molestation (ultimately proved true). Mr. Williams himself then left the priesthood in disgrace when it emerged that he had broken his vows of celibacy and fathered a son.
    At the time, Mr. Williams was the face of the conservative Legion of Christ religious order.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/precedents-for-pizzagate/#comment-1722323

    Mr. Hart, in my opinion, correctly observed the Protestant nature of the Alt Right in his April 2016 article titled: Neocons Want To Destroy Alt Right, Bring Back Buckley-Style Excommunications. Too Bad. http://www.vdare.com/articles/neocons-want-to-destroy-alt-right-bring-back-buckley-style-excommunications-too-bad

    Significantly, if one wanted to make an analogy, much more relevant to American history, of a once-infallible religious leader facing threats from multiple schools of thought using a new technology to spread their message, Martin Luther, not Mohammed comes to mind.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/what-can-msmclinton-say-about-alt-right-that-theyve-not-already-said-about-trumpgop/#comment-1561897

    I hope President Trump stays healthy and alive during his term, because his running mate Mike Pence is not exactly a Protestant
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    I tried to give Steve Bannon the benefit of the doubt, but I think you are pretty much spot on with your characterization of him ‘He sounds very much like a Catholic neocon type.
    [...]
    Let us hope, that they won’t succeed to turn [Trump] and his administration into a Zionist-Vatican alliance puppet… I will do everything in my power to not let that happen!
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/npis-spencer-vs-politcos-hirsh-etc/#comment-1665789

    I don't know what the future will bring, but I have always trusted Donald Trump and his judgement more than I have trusted Steve Bannon and his judgement.

    In my opinion, both Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner are no good, and Bannon is no true ally of the Alt Right.
    We need to keep supporting Donald Trump and steer him in the right direction and hold him accountable when he veers off the ``Make America Great Again'' and ``America First'' path.

    As I mentioned before, I think Ann Coulter is doing a great job at gently and encouragingly giving Donald Trump ``tough love'' when he needs/deserves it.

    My ideal scenario for the Trump administration would be if Trump fired both Bannon and Kushner and in their place hired Steve Sailer as his new chief strategist and top advisor ha ha ha, this would ensure that there would be zero chance of a ``Invade the World/Invite the World'' policy, plus Mr. Sailer would encourage President Trump to send lots of birth control foreign aid to Africa and the rest of the Third World and to declare ``war'' on cousin marriage in the Middle East. What an awesome vision ha ha ha

    Trump's Latest Triumph: Making It Appropriate to Worry About the African Overpopulation Crisis

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/trumps-latest-triumph-making-it-appropriate-to-worry-about-the-african-population-crisis/

    Not only is Trump completing the system of German idealism that Kant couldn’t, but Trump has finally made it appropriate for nice white people to worry about the World’s Most Important Graph.

    You see, as long as you can Blame Trump for Africa’s burgeoning billions, it’s not racist to think white people ought to do more to keep Africans from having so many babies.
     

    Minor correction: Followed by these excerpts from another earlier *comment* of mine

    At a discouraging point in the 1964 primary campaign against Barry Goldwater in California, political operative Stuart Spencer called on Rockefeller to “summon that fabled nexus of money, influence, and condescension known as the Eastern Establishment. ‘You are looking at it, buddy,’ Rockefeller told Spencer. ‘I am all that is left.’”[1]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_Republican

    In a way 2016 was a repeat of the 1964 Republican primary, in my opinion, though with a different outcome: the Rockefeller Republican (Donald Trump) defeated the Goldwater Republican (Ted Cruz).

    Could Nelson Rockefeller (Donald Trump) have defeated LBJ (Hillary Clinton) in the 1964 general election and could the U.S. have avoided the Hart-Celler Act that way? Intriguing possibility to contemplate… was Rockefeller in favor of the 1965 immigration bill or not? He attended its signing as the Governor of New York State: https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2014/11/29/book-review-his-own-terms-life-nelson-rockefeller-richard-norton-smith/vlBOEfOibGRcG5Mg7OPKpK/story.html

    Although few historians believe that the INA’s champions anticipated just how profoundly it would change the U.S. demographic landscape, Johnson recognized that its passage was especially significant—enough so that he oversaw the staging of an elaborate signing ceremony at the base of the Statue of Liberty. True to form, White House staffers were given strict instructions by the president to physically block political rivals like New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller from the cameras assembled on the dais at Liberty Island.

    https://millercenter.org/issues-policy/us-domestic-policy/reluctant-reformer

    [MORE]

    Any other Democrat except Hillary Clinton would have beaten Donald Trump.

    Any other Republican except Donald Trump would have lost to Hillary Clinton.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/slate-trump-didnt-win-rust-belt-so-much-as-hillary-lost-it/#comment-1672340

    Sometimes I wonder if Barry Goldwater’s main purpose and mission was to sabotage Nelson Rockefeller so the Hart-Celler Act could be passed and the Vietnam War could be continued?

    Was Ted Cruz supposed to play the same role in 2016 as Barry Goldwater did in 1964, so Hillary could be elected to pass Amnesty and open America’s borders even further to immigration from the rest of the (Catholic) World and to start and continue new and old wars?

    Here one of my comments on Eugene McCarthy and Catholic Vietnamese, etc. immigrants/refugees. Again, we see the Vatican-inspired “Invade (Protect) the (Catholic) World/Invite the (Catholic) World” scheme play out

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1688097

    During the 1964 presidential election, Spellman supported Lyndon B. Johnson, whose Higher Education Facilities Act and Economic Opportunity Act had greatly benefited the Church.
    [...]
    Spellman was an outspoken supporter of the Vietnam War, to the extent that the conflict became known as “Spelly’s War”
    [...]
    Perhaps [Ted Kennedy] had some Irish immigrant chips on his shoulder about WASPS disrespecting his family. If he disliked the balance of power among the citizens of this country, wildly increasing immigration levels could largely shift the balance of political power and ideology in the country.

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1689501

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  94. ronehjr says:

    Great, now I’m a ‘european-american’. Pretty sure this country was invented by europeans and meant exclusively for europeans. Now we are just another ethnic group, even according to someone who should know better.

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    Great, now I’m a ‘european-american’. Pretty sure this country was invented by europeans and meant exclusively for europeans."

    Actually, America is for Americans, exclusively for those of English descent. Blame Vox Day.

    "Now we are just another ethnic group, even according to someone who should know better."

    Yep, get in line. All of your identity are belong to us.
    , @Alden
    Unfortunately the founders brought blacks here way back in 1619. Some of the colonies like S. Carolina had more blacks than Whites.

    Blacks are our biggest domestic problem and the problems they cause will never be solved.
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  95. Miro23 says:
    @Reality's Stooge
    Antifa are a bunch of tools. Basically upper middle-class lib Dem idiots pretending to be hardcore street fighting radicals. Nietzsche said that when groups political groups that fight against the establishment become the establishment the voice of truth shifts to whichever group takes their place in opposition. I don't know how he came to that conclusion but I broadly agree.

    In 2017 it is the right that stands up for ending useless wars, free speech, economic and political reform, civil liberties and national sovereignty, while the "left" promotes intolerance, an imperial foreign policy up to and including war with nuclear powers, suppression of speech and civil liberties, violence against those who hold different beliefs and opinions and a continuation of a dangerously dysfunctional globalist status quo. That's quite a change from 20 years ago and Donald Trump, even though he's a liar and full of shit, ran to the left of Hillary Clinton.

    I put "left" in scare quotes because that term, as used by the right, is becoming outdated and more confusing than anything. The liberal "left" fully supports global capitalism as imagined by Thatcher and Reagan, fully supports and shills for illegal wars and scorns anyone who suggests they get back to economic and class issues. There isn't much left left in the"left".

    The right has a problem here. It refers to liberal intersectional progressives, or whatever you want to call them, as "the left" even though that's not accurate at all. For one thing the "left" is on the same page as the right economically. Yet the right still talks like the liberals are communists, Marxists and socialists. To be frank most Americans, especially on the right, have no idea what these terms actually mean. If they did they would not be calling Obama a Marxist, Democrats socialist etc. and generally making themselves look like political illiterates. The paranoia on the right about commies and assorted "socialists" plotting to steal our freedoms and liberty is its biggest achilles heel. It prevents them from seeing that many of our current problems are in fact caused by unfettered capitalism. This a truism and it is ironic that the right cannot or will not consider this when it has no trouble seeing through other lies perpetuated by the establishment.

    The identity politics "left" has no problem with capitalism at all. In fact they often accuse those who say they should maybe look at class issues rather than identity as racists and misogynists. The right meanwhile is shocked that a bellicose billionaire isn't the working-class hero they imagined he'd be. No shit, of course he isn't. Thirty years of government rule that benefits the obscenely rich while everyone gets the shaft should be a wakeup call. The naivete here is staggering.

    There is a reason why the rich and powerful are so afraid of anything resembling socialism (even single-payer healthcare scares them which is hardly radical or the road to Stalinist dictatorship). Because they know the only thing that can put a damper on their looting and exploitation are economic policies that favor ordinary working people and a government that demands they pay their fair share in taxes. Yet the right angrily parrots the views of the people who screw them day in and day out year after year.

    Wake up. The rich don't care about you and they don't care about me. At all. They know that even though they are few and we are many...as long as they are united - and they are - and we are not...they win and we lose. And that is the truth. To break the stranglehold they have over the world capitalism has to be seriously kneecapped or we will destroy ourselves.

    This is an interesting post showing how the street signs have been altered and switched around to confuse the public. It’s what Orwell called “Newspeak”:

    Infogalactica:

    NEWSPEAK is the fictional language in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, written by George Orwell. It is a controlled language created by the totalitarian state Oceania as a tool to limit freedom of thought, and concepts that pose a threat to the regime such as freedom, self-expression, individuality, and peace. Any form of thought alternative to the party’s construct is classified as “thoughtcrime”.

    Antifa are a bunch of tools. Basically upper middle-class lib Dem idiots pretending to be hardcore street fighting radicals. Nietzsche said that when groups political groups that fight against the establishment become the establishment the voice of truth shifts to whichever group takes their place in opposition. I don’t know how he came to that conclusion but I broadly agree.

    I would also agree that, fringe leftists, Zionists and hippies are now mainstream, and their SJW radicalism has become a cover for the Plutocratic looting of the US economy and Zionist ME wars.

    It’s unbelievable, but this idiotic crowd of pensioners still seem to think that they are leading the fight for freedom, justice and rights, and they are encouraged in this view by a cynical MSM.

    Perhaps they’ll need to die off before anything changes. or alternatively their carefully programmed “safe spaces” offspring will continue the good fight, or maybe they’ll find that their pensions stop being paid, or maybe they’ll be shocked to find themselves in the middle of a real Civil War.

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  96. @Anon
    we should not be fighting antifa, but instead be converting antifa to our side...

    the liberals are not the enemy...their corporate masters are the enemy....

    the antifa and most liberals in general are a ripe target for conversion to the alt/dissident Right...why? Because hardcore liberals and the antifa are very wary of capitalism...but the fact is that anti-white multiculturalism and its core tenet of pro-immigration is the major tool of the big corporations in their drive to increase profits via wage suppression and increasing consumer demand via population growth....anti-white multiculturalism IS modern capitalism...and if we can show antifa and the liberals this truth, we can beat the demographic tide that is against us and get the numbers we need...

    see my youtube channel link above for my vlog on this issue

    ” the antifa and most liberals in general are a ripe target for conversion”
    Wrong, wrong, wrong, the only ones who are “convertable” are the ones who come around by themselves, as no amount of rational discourse will convert the bone-headed others who are simply insane, period.
    Until the common sense faction of US society finally recognizes that they are confronted with millions of (leftist) lunatics, with crazies who are obcessed with communism, things will only become more and more violent, with the left holding the upper hand.
    Rule number one of solving problems : Recognize it for what it is, and confront it.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz artist.

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  97. @Corvinus
    "I can agree with everyone on this. The US’s founding documents were a product of a particular people."

    At the time. But the Founding Fathers granted future generations with the liberty to decide for themselves what is to be the direction of their nation.

    "It may be more proper to regard the rights as guaranteed under the Constitution as a set of privileges that were taken from the king by the Revolutionaries, who subsequently passed them on to their descendants. In other words, rights are property or they are nothing."

    No. One does not "own" a right. Rights are granted or conferred. You exercise those rights. A group of people come together, agree to be governed, and create a framework by which to be governed, with rights generated by that government through the will of that group of people.

    "We should think about citizenship in the same way: citizenship is property or it is nothing. And if you’re not a citizen, you’re a migrant worker and whoever hired you is responsible for you. And when the work’s done, you go back home."

    Feel free to think in this odd way.

    You are such a muddled thinker, it would take five pages just to get you to “wrong.”

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    "You are such a muddled thinker, it would take five pages just to get you to “wrong.”"

    No, I am thinking clearly here. I am genuinely curious as to how you consider "rights are property". What are the ideological underpinnings to your philosophy?

    Make the case like you do in court rather offer an impotent response.
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  98. KenH says:

    Even worse, he has not once defended his supporters who are being attacked on the streets and fighting in his name.

    This is disconcerting because neither Hildabeast nor Obama would stay mute while their supporters were being suppressed and attacked by the right. Trump’s supporters weren’t wrong in thinking they’d get some support based on his ham fisted campaign rhetoric, but it looks like they are expendable until 2020. And nary a peep from Republican Congressman in California or anywhere else unless I missed something.

    Republicans, now including Trump, have refused to fight these race and culture wars and have preferred to keep their hands clean and take the high road. That hasn’t worked. In fact, it’s failed miserably and it’s creating a vacuum that will be filled by forces that they can’t control and that will eventually plunge this nation into full scale civil war. They had their chances to act and avert this eventuality but took the easy way out.

    We are on our own but I think most of us already knew that and didn’t have any illusions that Trump was going to suddenly right every wrong since 1965.

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  99. @Svigor

    The foreign writer you attempt to belittle knows more about America than you do, it seems. That commenter made the absolutely correct assertion that the very essence of being American is the Constitution, and all the freedoms codified therein. Is America not, in essence, the Freedom of Speech? Even the Right to Bear Arms against a totalitarian regime? (Of course, it was presupposed that the population would be intelligent and educated, as well as courageous, enough to organize a real takeover, or taking back, of the government, which it turned out is exactly NOT what happened with the election of Saviour Donald by Fox News-watching good old boys!)
     
    None of that is worth a dried pile of turd apart from the people who created and uphold it.

    None of that is worth a dried pile of turd apart from the people who created and uphold it.

    I think you need both–the right people and the right laws/institutions. The question (for me) is whether any people other than (ancestral) Western Europeans — perhaps just Northern Western Europeans — is capable of making proper use of the right laws/institutions. That’s what worries me most about unchecked immigration — that we’ll lose the critical mass of WASPs who keep America basically working in the form in which we inherited it.

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  100. Svigor says:

    nationalist revolutions happen a lot – all you need is a hostile ruling class

    They even had one in Soviet Russia, but it simply flipped the switch from anti-Nationalist to Nationalist.

    At the time. But the Founding Fathers granted future generations with the liberty to decide for themselves what is to be the direction of their nation.

    Mortality grants that to every future generation, you nitwit.

    Feel free to think in this odd way.

    Great, Corvanus the nitwit has given us permission to think our thoughts.

    You will NEVER see an anti Israel administration in America. It will never happen. You Ron Paul butt boys will have to console yourselves with crappy articles by Giraldi and The Saker.

    How does that level of dependence feel? I’ve always found it rather…greasy.

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  101. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Achmed E. Newman
    As much as I agree with the two conflicting replies, I think I can sum it up better:

    YOU! CANT! FIX! STUPID!

    These are neither smart nor wise people, we're seeing here. They will absolutely not understand your argument, Anon, with which I find nothing wrong, as long as you don't mind me substituting "crony capitalism" or "fascism" for your "modern capitalism".

    All these people have is phrases in their heads "white men are bad, mmmkaay", "capitalism is evil", and all the Marx BS and the creme de la creme of the worst bullshit of the 1960's. For cryin' out loud, they have not come up with a chant better than "Hey hey, ho, ho, something or other has got to go!" in 50-odd years!

    If they hadn't grown up spoiled in the remaining wealth of the western world, these people would be too stupid to get past 15 years old. How would you go about arguing the truth to them - by all means, beatings around the head and kneecaps would be a step in the right direction as far as changing hearts and minds.

    These are neither smart nor wise people, we’re seeing here.

    A lot of them are people who have been lied to all their lives by the media and academia – losing a fight they started will make some people like that think for themselves for the first time.

    (them being the aggressor is critical for this)

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  102. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @disturbed_robot
    @Rod1963

    I just want to point out something, not trying to be an ass, just getting some facts out there.

    You said "Black-bloc/anti-fa seems to be the unofficial goon squad of the Left and of democratic run big cities"

    Black Bloc is an Anarchist group. It is a common misconception to think of Anarchists as somehow representing the far Left. Anarchists hate Leftists. That's a fact. They also hate Rightists. They do not represent the democratic establishment whatsoever and are just as firmly against the Left as well as the Right. You should look into a little Anarchist philosophy. By definition, they do not believe in or support the State, hence are opposed to all of the States factions (Left, Right, whatever). Remember the Battle of Seattle? Bill Clinton was president. So how come the Black Bloc's fought there? And who did they fight?

    You also said "The GOP and Trump are not about to fight for our first amendment rights. We’re on our own."

    I couldn't agree with you more. Anyone here who still believes, or believed at any time, that Donald Trump (or any politician for that matter) was somehow here to serve the people (of ANY faction), is completely delusional. The tug of war between democrat and republican is just an internal family struggle of who will run the show, but don't be fooled, the "show" is exactly what they BOTH want it to be and not what any common man/woman wants. We're set upon ourselves to fight and kill each other while they sit in their high castles and laugh at us. Wake up people. Stop falling for the same damn tricks over and over again.

    You said “Black-bloc/anti-fa seems to be the unofficial goon squad of the Left and of democratic run big cities”

    Black Bloc is an Anarchist group…snip…They do not represent the democratic establishment whatsoever

    Right – that’s why they are the unofficial goon squad. The Democratic establishment doesn’t control them but the Democratic establishment allows antifa to attack opponents of the Democratic establishment.

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  103. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Greasy William
    You will NEVER see an anti Israel administration in America. It will never happen. You Ron Paul butt boys will have to console yourselves with crappy articles by Giraldi and The Saker.

    You will NEVER see an anti Israel administration in America.

    Obviously it will.

    The “invite the world” part of the neocon/SJW agenda inevitably leads to first a neutral and then eventually an anti-Israel policy – just a matter of time.

    It’s why the more Likudite elements started drifting anti-SJW.

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  104. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    You are such a muddled thinker, it would take five pages just to get you to "wrong."

    “You are such a muddled thinker, it would take five pages just to get you to “wrong.””

    No, I am thinking clearly here. I am genuinely curious as to how you consider “rights are property”. What are the ideological underpinnings to your philosophy?

    Make the case like you do in court rather offer an impotent response.

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  105. Corvinus says:
    @ronehjr
    Great, now I'm a 'european-american'. Pretty sure this country was invented by europeans and meant exclusively for europeans. Now we are just another ethnic group, even according to someone who should know better.

    Great, now I’m a ‘european-american’. Pretty sure this country was invented by europeans and meant exclusively for europeans.”

    Actually, America is for Americans, exclusively for those of English descent. Blame Vox Day.

    “Now we are just another ethnic group, even according to someone who should know better.”

    Yep, get in line. All of your identity are belong to us.

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  106. @Clark Westwood

    I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get.
     
    I was thinking the same thing.

    Basically, libertarianism in one country.

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  107. @daniel le mouche
    ' I think you can have both. The constitution is as close to a distillation of Anglo Saxon social instinct as you can get.
    I was thinking the same thing.'

    I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the original Anglo-Saxons have a Queen and an Aristocracy. America's Constitution was (ostensibly) created to PREVENT that happening in America. My understanding is that much of it came from a similar Constitution of the Iroquois Nation, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

    The Great Law of Peace was an oral tradition represented in pictographs on wampum belts, with a lot of prescriptions for rituals and rules of succession. It was not influential on the Constitutional Convention; that’s an attenuated thesis by a few enamored historians.

    The Constitution was a distillation of Enlightenment-era thought from the British Isles.

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    "The Great Law of Peace was an oral tradition represented in pictographs on wampum belts, with a lot of prescriptions for rituals and rules of succession. It was not influential on the Constitutional Convention; that’s an attenuated thesis by a few enamored historians."

    The U.S. Constitution owes part of its notion of representative democracy to the Iroquois Tribes by sharing some similarities with post-revolutionary attempts at governance.

    "The Constitution was a distillation of Enlightenment-era thought from the British Isles."

    The Constitution was an amalgamation of Greek, Roman, and Enlightenment thought, along with consideration of Iroquois concepts, created by wealthy white men whose ancestors came from Europe.
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  108. Joe Wong says:
    @Inque Yutani
    I'll advocate. Put the prog-left into the ground. That whole cancerous ideology needs to be purged before it's too late. It might already be too late.

    Don’t you ever feel jealous and resentful about the luxurious and decadent lives Ivanks and Donald Trump have while you are working day and night to pay the rent for a basement, and you cannot afford to see doctor who will bankrupt to fill his greed? Mind you the 1% say you guys deserve the rotten life because you guys are lazy bums.

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    Don't you just love how the left promises free health care, free education and free housing plus Internet for everyone.

    But also kerps forgetting to telp everyone that it is the working class who will foot the bill through rampant tax increases and confiscation of property/businesses while also being denied access to any of the services based on their skin color and race.
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  109. FKA Max says:
    @FKA Max
    No worries, Mr. Kirkpatrick, I believe everything will work out fine in the end, but you are correct, I also worry about a potential escalation of violence. In my opinion, the Alt Right should stay out of street fights in general. We have the interwebs, after all, to spread the word.

    The pen/keyboard is mightier than the sword.

    Even though Donald Trump denies it in the following interview; he, in my opinion, most decidedly is a Rockefeller Republican, but it is not at all a bad thing. Mr. Sailer commented on this in detail in November of 2016:

    Trump as the New Nelson Rockefeller

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/trump-as-the-new-nelson-rockefeller/

    Donald Trump Interview 1988 Republican convention

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI

    Uploaded on Jan 30, 2012

    Larry king interviews Donald Trump at the 1988 republican convention

    This is Trump to a T, in my opinion:

    A politician who self-described as having a “Democrat heart with a Republican head,” Nelson Rockefeller would be something of a political anomaly today. Biographer Richard Norton Smith, author of “On His Own Terms,” joins Judy Woodruff to discuss what distinguished the four-time New York governor and former vice president.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/not-a-lot-of-progress-in-thinking-about-unwanted-sexual-advances-since-anita-hill/#comment-1610711

    Trump is neither a fascist nor a racist. He is a patriot, with an understandable and justified Anglo-Saxon bias, just like William N. Vaile
    [...]
    He is a modern-day, Big Stick Roosevelt/Rockefeller Republican, in my opinion.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/plee/trump-we-wish-the-problem-was-fascism/#comment-1617650

    If true, Trump’s best Cabinet pick yet, in my opinion.

    And his first “Rockefeller Republican” pick, which I have been waiting for.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-latest-conspiracy/#comment-1687344

    On Bannon, etc. I recommend to watch Roger Stone's recent interview with Chuck Todd. This video could soon be deleted on copyright infringement grounds though. Mr. Stone says that Bannon failed to fill spots in the administration with nationalists and now he is isolated, alone and vulnerable. I agree with Mr. Stone's assessment of the situation:

    Chuck Todd Vs Roger Stone Face Off: ‘Do You Understand Why You’re a Suspect?’ Full Interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehszm3HDUNA

    I also want to make clear, that I think, that Steve Bannon is an American Patriot, and that without his help Donald Trump would not have won the election, but I also think some of his worldview is unrefined and contradictory, and therefore could be a liability and weakness going forward
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653271

    In my opinion, Donald Trump is a WASP agent/advocate as well, and that is why I support him
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653850

    like yourself I was initially skeptical of Donald Trump, so I performed some Extreme Vetting of my own on him in September of 2015. The results were overwhelming positive and beneficial for the United States of America, and that is the reason I decided to throw my support behind Donald Trump from relatively early on in the race.

    Please, see my following post here on the Unz Review and read all my previous posts I linked to there, and you will understand why I trust Donald Trump and have such confidence in him. Maybe this, admittedly rather esoteric, knowledge can put your heart and mind at ease as well: http://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1654918

    The biggest threat to Trump is this, in my opinion:

    There is probably no one who pushes the Zionist-Vatican alliance and agenda harder than the Murdoch media empire
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    Rupert Murdoch’s Heat Street is attacking the Unz Review, Vdare.com and Mr. Sailer.

    In 2016 wikileaks revealed that despite it’s claims of conservative ideology the editor of [Heat Street] Louise Mensch secretly created advertising for liberal democrat Hillary Clinton during her failed run for President of the United States. Mensch has threatened to sue the journalists at wikileaks for revealing her support of Clinton publicly.[9]
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-long-election-stage-two/#comment-1659662

    [Wendi Deng Murdoch] is also “besties” with Ivanka Trump. How much does she influence Ivanka and Jared, who in turn then influence Donald Trump?
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839275

    Not being Donald Trump, but especially not being Steve Bannon fanboys is the key to Make America truly Great Again… in my humble opinion.

    Ann Coulter is doing a great job of putting pressure on Trump, Bannon, et al.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839462

    Jared’s family being big supporters of the State of Israel.

    For Kushner, Israel Policy May Be Shaped by the Personal

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/us/politics/jared-kushner-israel.html
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839604

    I also worry about a potential escalation of violence.

    Apparently the young woman Nathan Damigo punched in the forehead at the 2nd Battle of Berkeley was throwing glass bottles at people all day.

    TYT’s Eric Byler spoke at length to White Nationalist (Alt-Right) Activist, Nathan Damigo at conference hosted by the National Policy Institute at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington DC.

    http://www.unz.com/forum/an-alt-right-makeover-shrouds-the-swastikas/#comment-1688216

    janey‏ @janeygak

    janey Retweeted Shane Bauer

    Are you seriously accusing Stephen Lam, the Reuters photographer, of photoshopping the photo and adding the bottle?
    http://pictures.reuters.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&ALID=2C0FQE356VHES&VBID=2C0FC0AA24JS&POPUPPN=16&POPUPIID=2C0FQE35QMT2X

    – 9:37 AM – 19 Apr 2017 https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/854735758799716352

    Moldylocks Antifa girl was THROWING GLASS BOTTLES when she got punched

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    , @FKA Max
    Was a Protester Throwing Explosives Into a Berkeley Crowd Before She Was Punched?
    There's no evidence Louise Rosealma was using a glass bottle she appeared to be holding as an incendiary device.
    http://www.snopes.com/antifa-protestor-punch-m80/

    While many media outlets painted a sympathetic picture of Rosealma and claimed that she had been “sucker punched” during the riot, others claimed that she was actually an instigator to the violence. A photograph purportedly showing Rosealma holding a glass bottle was circulated along with the claim that she had filled the bottle with explosives and was preparing to launch it into the crowd when Damigo stopped her:
    [...]
    Still, we found no record of Damigo claiming that he saw Rosealma putting an M80 explosive inside a glass bottle and throwing at it protesters. No quotations from Damigo were provided, nor any evidence that the bottle was actually filled with explosives. In fact, the photographic evidence does more to disprove this claim than to support it.
    [...]
    Reporter Tim Pool, who took this video, said in the interview that M80s were being thrown into the crowd — but not that they were being stuffed inside glass bottles, which would create a far more dangerous weapon.
    [...]
    When we reached her for comment, Rosealma said that she never threw an explosive, and that this rumor was invented by the alt-right to justify Damigo’s actions. Rosealma also told us that the only time she held a bottle during the event was when she was cleaning up trash, and that the images of her with a bottle (both the Reuters photograph and the stills from the video) had been doctored:
    [...]
    It’s possible that Rosealma was simply cleaning up trash when a fight broke out. It’s also possible that the bottle was being used as a weapon (either in defense or aggression). However, the claim that this bottle was filled with explosives is completely unfounded.
     
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  110. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    The Great Law of Peace was an oral tradition represented in pictographs on wampum belts, with a lot of prescriptions for rituals and rules of succession. It was not influential on the Constitutional Convention; that's an attenuated thesis by a few enamored historians.

    The Constitution was a distillation of Enlightenment-era thought from the British Isles.

    “The Great Law of Peace was an oral tradition represented in pictographs on wampum belts, with a lot of prescriptions for rituals and rules of succession. It was not influential on the Constitutional Convention; that’s an attenuated thesis by a few enamored historians.”

    The U.S. Constitution owes part of its notion of representative democracy to the Iroquois Tribes by sharing some similarities with post-revolutionary attempts at governance.

    “The Constitution was a distillation of Enlightenment-era thought from the British Isles.”

    The Constitution was an amalgamation of Greek, Roman, and Enlightenment thought, along with consideration of Iroquois concepts, created by wealthy white men whose ancestors came from Europe.

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    The Iroquois federation had nothing to do with the constitution. It was pretty much the rules of the Masonic lodges.
    All this clip and paste from hard left anti White text books of the last 15 years is ridiculous. The idea of a federation of independent states comes more from the Holy Roman Empire with its hundreds of Kingdoms, Principalities , and Grand Duchies than anything in the British Isles.
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  111. J1234 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Despite the very high number of guns in the US, polls show that less than half of the households in the US have guns in them. Admittedly, those polls have some serious flaws that don’t seem to be understood by pollsters, ...
     
    I've got one of your flaws, right here: Many people, often rightfully, don't trust their governments and their governments' spy apparatus enough to tell a pollster they have guns. I know someone like that, a friend, yeah, a friend of mine.

    That was the main flaw I was talking about. I would never tell a pollster whether I had guns or not, nor would most politically oriented gun owners. So in this respect, it’s hard to know how far off the poll numbers are. It sure didn’t stop the Washington Post from citing a poll without meaningful caveats, that gun ownership was declining in the US…even though it had been previously and widely and often reported that Americans were buying record numbers of guns for several years while Obama was in office.

    But still…WaPo is NOT fake news, so millions of gun owners just must’ve woken up one day and thrown their guns in the trash.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/29/american-gun-ownership-is-now-at-a-30-year-low/?utm_term=.eb3313ab7c84

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  112. Alden says:
    @Stripes Duncan
    While you're fighting the good fight behind the keyboard, someone is going to step up and claim this country in the streets. You may get lucky and find that the winners are your people, but you won't have any claim to the victory.

    America will not be redeemed through dank memes or messiah politicians. I would have thought the abrupt turn-around of the last couple weeks made that crystal clear.

    FKAMAX doesn’t actually write anything if his own. He just clips and pastes other people’s thoughts and posts them.

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    Indeed, I am just a humble copier and paster. And you are most definitively the World's greatest defender of free speech, bar none. That. Is. A. Fact.

    You have been surprisingly congenial lately, Alden. You are not going soft on us and me, are you?

    No hellfire and brimstone and no demands for a speech/commenting ban for me anymore?


    P.s.: I thought you had put me on your Grand Inquisitor list of heretics and people to ignore, Alden?

    Why don’t you follow you[r] own advice, and just ignore me, Alden?

    – http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1686089
     

    - http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-reason-the-fed-is-raising-rates-and-why-it-wont-work/#comment-1714337

    Here in all its beauty and with all its vigor, copied and pasted, your very first comment concerning and being concerned about me. Fond memories, fond memories...

    Alden says:
    November 3, 2016 at 3:48 pm GMT • 200 Words

    I’d advise not responding to FKA MAX’s nonsense about the Catholic Church. He’s like Rehmat. He roams the Internet posting anti Catholic comments after every article no matter how irrevalent to the article the comments are.
    Unfortunately he won’t go away until banned but he she or its best ignored

    FKA MAX has been banned from s lot of sites because of his more insane anti Catholic ideas. Here are a couple.

    1 The only reason the south lost the civil war was because of Irish Catholic mercaneries shipped over to NYC by the
    Vatican Navy. This was a plot by the Pope and Lincoln

    2. There is a stairway in the Vatican that goes way down almost to hell. It ends in a secret room where the devil and the Pope meet to discuss how to take over the world.

    3. The statue in top of the Capitol building in DC is actually Mary the mother of Jesus not a Roman goddess. Washington DC is not a Masonic design but a Catholic plot hidden behind the Masons design.

    4. The federal reserve is actually total controlled by the Vatican Bank

    And of course there is the usual Pope is the anti Christ, scarlet woman of Rome, whore of Babylon.

    He, she or it won’t go away unless banned but responding just leads to more posts and endless links to his previous posts.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1634065
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  113. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @FKA Max

    I also worry about a potential escalation of violence.
     
    Apparently the young woman Nathan Damigo punched in the forehead at the 2nd Battle of Berkeley was throwing glass bottles at people all day.

    TYT’s Eric Byler spoke at length to White Nationalist (Alt-Right) Activist, Nathan Damigo at conference hosted by the National Policy Institute at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington DC.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/forum/an-alt-right-makeover-shrouds-the-swastikas/#comment-1688216

    janey‏ @janeygak

    janey Retweeted Shane Bauer

    Are you seriously accusing Stephen Lam, the Reuters photographer, of photoshopping the photo and adding the bottle?
    http://pictures.reuters.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&ALID=2C0FQE356VHES&VBID=2C0FC0AA24JS&POPUPPN=16&POPUPIID=2C0FQE35QMT2X
     
    - 9:37 AM - 19 Apr 2017 https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/854735758799716352

    Moldylocks Antifa girl was THROWING GLASS BOTTLES when she got punched

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bHf6j1T5o

    great bit of tactical awareness at 0:22

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  114. Alden says:

    This just in 4/19, UCBerkely just banned Ann Coulter’s scheduled speech for next week.

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  115. Alden says:
    @Corvinus
    "The Great Law of Peace was an oral tradition represented in pictographs on wampum belts, with a lot of prescriptions for rituals and rules of succession. It was not influential on the Constitutional Convention; that’s an attenuated thesis by a few enamored historians."

    The U.S. Constitution owes part of its notion of representative democracy to the Iroquois Tribes by sharing some similarities with post-revolutionary attempts at governance.

    "The Constitution was a distillation of Enlightenment-era thought from the British Isles."

    The Constitution was an amalgamation of Greek, Roman, and Enlightenment thought, along with consideration of Iroquois concepts, created by wealthy white men whose ancestors came from Europe.

    The Iroquois federation had nothing to do with the constitution. It was pretty much the rules of the Masonic lodges.
    All this clip and paste from hard left anti White text books of the last 15 years is ridiculous. The idea of a federation of independent states comes more from the Holy Roman Empire with its hundreds of Kingdoms, Principalities , and Grand Duchies than anything in the British Isles.

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  116. Alden says:
    @ronehjr
    Great, now I'm a 'european-american'. Pretty sure this country was invented by europeans and meant exclusively for europeans. Now we are just another ethnic group, even according to someone who should know better.

    Unfortunately the founders brought blacks here way back in 1619. Some of the colonies like S. Carolina had more blacks than Whites.

    Blacks are our biggest domestic problem and the problems they cause will never be solved.

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  117. Alden says:
    @FKA Max
    No worries, Mr. Kirkpatrick, I believe everything will work out fine in the end, but you are correct, I also worry about a potential escalation of violence. In my opinion, the Alt Right should stay out of street fights in general. We have the interwebs, after all, to spread the word.

    The pen/keyboard is mightier than the sword.

    Even though Donald Trump denies it in the following interview; he, in my opinion, most decidedly is a Rockefeller Republican, but it is not at all a bad thing. Mr. Sailer commented on this in detail in November of 2016:

    Trump as the New Nelson Rockefeller

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/trump-as-the-new-nelson-rockefeller/

    Donald Trump Interview 1988 Republican convention

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI

    Uploaded on Jan 30, 2012

    Larry king interviews Donald Trump at the 1988 republican convention

    This is Trump to a T, in my opinion:

    A politician who self-described as having a “Democrat heart with a Republican head,” Nelson Rockefeller would be something of a political anomaly today. Biographer Richard Norton Smith, author of “On His Own Terms,” joins Judy Woodruff to discuss what distinguished the four-time New York governor and former vice president.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/not-a-lot-of-progress-in-thinking-about-unwanted-sexual-advances-since-anita-hill/#comment-1610711

    Trump is neither a fascist nor a racist. He is a patriot, with an understandable and justified Anglo-Saxon bias, just like William N. Vaile
    [...]
    He is a modern-day, Big Stick Roosevelt/Rockefeller Republican, in my opinion.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/plee/trump-we-wish-the-problem-was-fascism/#comment-1617650

    If true, Trump’s best Cabinet pick yet, in my opinion.

    And his first “Rockefeller Republican” pick, which I have been waiting for.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-latest-conspiracy/#comment-1687344

    On Bannon, etc. I recommend to watch Roger Stone's recent interview with Chuck Todd. This video could soon be deleted on copyright infringement grounds though. Mr. Stone says that Bannon failed to fill spots in the administration with nationalists and now he is isolated, alone and vulnerable. I agree with Mr. Stone's assessment of the situation:

    Chuck Todd Vs Roger Stone Face Off: ‘Do You Understand Why You’re a Suspect?’ Full Interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehszm3HDUNA

    I also want to make clear, that I think, that Steve Bannon is an American Patriot, and that without his help Donald Trump would not have won the election, but I also think some of his worldview is unrefined and contradictory, and therefore could be a liability and weakness going forward
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653271

    In my opinion, Donald Trump is a WASP agent/advocate as well, and that is why I support him
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653850

    like yourself I was initially skeptical of Donald Trump, so I performed some Extreme Vetting of my own on him in September of 2015. The results were overwhelming positive and beneficial for the United States of America, and that is the reason I decided to throw my support behind Donald Trump from relatively early on in the race.

    Please, see my following post here on the Unz Review and read all my previous posts I linked to there, and you will understand why I trust Donald Trump and have such confidence in him. Maybe this, admittedly rather esoteric, knowledge can put your heart and mind at ease as well: http://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1654918

    The biggest threat to Trump is this, in my opinion:

    There is probably no one who pushes the Zionist-Vatican alliance and agenda harder than the Murdoch media empire
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    Rupert Murdoch’s Heat Street is attacking the Unz Review, Vdare.com and Mr. Sailer.

    In 2016 wikileaks revealed that despite it’s claims of conservative ideology the editor of [Heat Street] Louise Mensch secretly created advertising for liberal democrat Hillary Clinton during her failed run for President of the United States. Mensch has threatened to sue the journalists at wikileaks for revealing her support of Clinton publicly.[9]
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-long-election-stage-two/#comment-1659662

    [Wendi Deng Murdoch] is also “besties” with Ivanka Trump. How much does she influence Ivanka and Jared, who in turn then influence Donald Trump?
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839275

    Not being Donald Trump, but especially not being Steve Bannon fanboys is the key to Make America truly Great Again… in my humble opinion.

    Ann Coulter is doing a great job of putting pressure on Trump, Bannon, et al.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839462

    Jared’s family being big supporters of the State of Israel.

    For Kushner, Israel Policy May Be Shaped by the Personal

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/us/politics/jared-kushner-israel.html
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839604

    Wendi Deng and Murdoch got divorced years ago. He’s now married to Mick Jagger’s ex, Jerry Hall a woman more his own age than Wendi.

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  118. FKA Max says:
    @Alden
    FKAMAX doesn't actually write anything if his own. He just clips and pastes other people's thoughts and posts them.

    Indeed, I am just a humble copier and paster. And you are most definitively the World’s greatest defender of free speech, bar none. That. Is. A. Fact.

    You have been surprisingly congenial lately, Alden. You are not going soft on us and me, are you?

    No hellfire and brimstone and no demands for a speech/commenting ban for me anymore?

    P.s.: I thought you had put me on your Grand Inquisitor list of heretics and people to ignore, Alden?

    Why don’t you follow you[r] own advice, and just ignore me, Alden?

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1686089

    http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-reason-the-fed-is-raising-rates-and-why-it-wont-work/#comment-1714337

    Here in all its beauty and with all its vigor, copied and pasted, your very first comment concerning and being concerned about me. Fond memories, fond memories…

    Alden says:
    November 3, 2016 at 3:48 pm GMT • 200 Words

    I’d advise not responding to FKA MAX’s nonsense about the Catholic Church. He’s like Rehmat. He roams the Internet posting anti Catholic comments after every article no matter how irrevalent to the article the comments are.
    Unfortunately he won’t go away until banned but he she or its best ignored

    FKA MAX has been banned from s lot of sites because of his more insane anti Catholic ideas. Here are a couple.

    1 The only reason the south lost the civil war was because of Irish Catholic mercaneries shipped over to NYC by the
    Vatican Navy. This was a plot by the Pope and Lincoln

    2. There is a stairway in the Vatican that goes way down almost to hell. It ends in a secret room where the devil and the Pope meet to discuss how to take over the world.

    3. The statue in top of the Capitol building in DC is actually Mary the mother of Jesus not a Roman goddess. Washington DC is not a Masonic design but a Catholic plot hidden behind the Masons design.

    4. The federal reserve is actually total controlled by the Vatican Bank

    And of course there is the usual Pope is the anti Christ, scarlet woman of Rome, whore of Babylon.

    He, she or it won’t go away unless banned but responding just leads to more posts and endless links to his previous posts.

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1634065

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    The reason I copy and paste so much and extensively is two-fold: firstly, I am not a very good and eloquent writer myself and I want to give proper credit to much better writers and researchers than myself; secondly, I never know if the articles, blogs and websites, I link to, will still be available and in existence online a week from now or not, with all the censorship that is going online and in general. By copying and pasting the most essential core ideas and information of these other people's research and writings, and sharing them here at the Unz Review they will at least be partly archived/available for future reference, in case their writings, research and their websites and blogs get censored or deleted. I try to copy and paste as efficiently and minimally as I can, but sometimes more lengthy copy-&-pastes are required to maintain the context, integrity etc. of the information/idea.

    Also again, on one of my favorite pet peeves, the Catholic Church:

    But you are correct, that he, for example, does not distinguish between Protestant and Catholic culture within Western Civilization, which is a bit annoying to me, because I feel this distinction has extreme significance (as you will see and read, if you browse through my commenting history here at the Unz Review); he just uses the generic “Christian,” and even calls the U.S. a traditionally “Christian” country, when it is clearly a traditionally and historically Protestant county and culture. Very, very annoying to me, because it gives the Catholic Church immense power, cover, and protection in the U.S. for all kinds of nefarious activities, e.g., advocating for open borders towards Latin America, because they are “Christians” just like us.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/reforming-stuyvesant-hs-admissions-should-blacks-whites-team-up-against-asian-grinds/#comment-1810979

    Would America have the Free Speech battles and see the rise of White Nationalism in California and all over the country if the Catholic Church had not gotten its way on immigration, etc.? I don't think so.

    Here another copy&paste job of mine, of a much more eloquent and visionary writer and much more knowledgeable researcher than myself:

    California and the End of White America
    The unprecedented racial transformation of California and its political consequences.
    http://www.unz.com/runz/california-and-the-end-of-white-america/

    Otherwise, whites as a group will inevitably begin to display the same ethnic-minority-group politics as other minority groups, and this could break our nation. We face the choice of either supporting “the New American Melting Pot” or accepting “the Coming of White Nationalism.
    [...]
    And it was not just moderate Republicans like Wilson who held pro-immigrant views; so, too, contrary to stereotype, did many prominent conservatives. The entrepreneurship and economic dynamism of most immigrants, the strong family values and Catholic faith of Latinos, the fierce anti-Communism of Cuban and Vietnamese refugees–these did not go unnoticed during the Reagan era. In 1984, during the heated debate over the Simpson-Mazzoli Immigration Act, none other than right-winger Patrick J. Buchanan had denounced the proposed legislation as mean-spirited toward hard-working illegal immigrants, and as late as the 1990 publication of his conservative call-to-arms, Right from the Beginning, Buchanan was still casually referring to illegal immigrants (let alone to legal ones) as stalwarts of American optimism and economic advancement. Fiery Bob Dornan had originally unseated a Democratic incumbent in his Orange County congressional district thanks to a local influx of anti-Communist Vietnamese refugees, and his unbending anti-abortionism regularly won him many Latino votes; in his appearances on Rush Limbaugh’s radio show, Dornan scathingly denounced anti-immigrant activists.

    If the Right could find little fault with immigrants during this period, liberals and the Left often showed greater hostility. Environmentalists pushing for slow-growth economic measures often locked horns with Latino (and black) elected officials from working-class districts where the paramount issue was jobs rather than “quality of life”;
     

    Earlier in this century, Dr. James Conant, president of Harvard University, stated: “The greater [the] proportion of our youth who fail to attend public schools and who receive their education elsewhere, the greater the threat to our democratic unity.” [...]

    In 1875, Ulysses S. Grant campaigned on a plank that Catholic parochial schools would someday lead to another civil war.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/merry-christmas-2/#comment-1705003

    This is why the Alt Right and Donald Trump are so important and so feared by the Catholic Church, because they are independent of the Vatican and oppose the Church's ``Invade the World/Invite the World'' policy, unlike the regular/mainstream Democrats and Republicans, who have both been influenced and infiltrated by the Vatican; yes, even people like Steve Bannon and Patrick Buchanan are influenced by the Vatican and their operatives, in my opinion, and never truly stand up to the Vatican/Catholic Church, but try to work with it or even make excuses for it, i.e., the current Pope is a Communist, Masons have infiltrated the Church, etc. pp. The men of the Catholic Church are no amateurs and know exactly what they are doing and they are very adept at conspiring and conspiracy theorizing themselves, believe you me.

    In my experience and according to my research, the Vatican has a tendency to back both sides of a conflict, as an insurance policy. This does not mean however, that they don’t have a preference on who they want to be victorious.

    For the American Civil War, as I documented above, a pretty clear case can be made, in my opinion, that the Confederacy was their preferred party/ideology to win. Vagueness is an often deployed tactic of the Vatican, as demonstrated in the following example. They are masters of public relations and diplomacy. A Catholic acquaintance of mine once told me, that ”the Jesuits kill you with their sweetness.”
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1636997

    My comment on Vox Day's article titled:

    Hitler did nothing wrong
    The list of things that Hitler did wrong is considerably longer than the list of things he did right.
    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/03/hitler-did-nothing-wrong.html

    This is another important aspect of history, that is not widely known:

    Vietnam why did we go?

    By Avro Manhattan

    CHAPTER 3

    Fatimaization of the West
    [...]
    The first was a vision of Hell (something well known to the modern world).
    The second was more to the point: a reiteration that Soviet Russia would be converted to the Catholic Church.
    The third was sealed in an envelope and put in custody of the ecclesiastical authority not to be revealed until 1960.
    [...]
    The dramatic reiteration of the revelation of the second secret about Soviet Russia immediately assumed a tremendous religious and political significance. The timing of the "disclosure" could not have been better chosen. The Fascist dictatorships were talking the same language: the annihilation of Soviet Russia.
    [...]
    Pius XII encouraged Catholics to volunteer for the Russian front. Catholics—most of them devotees of the Virgin of Fatima —joined the Nazi armies, from Italy, France, Ireland, Belgium, Holland, Latin America, the U.S. and Portugal. Spain sent a Catholic Blue Division.
     
    - http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/03/hitler-did-nothing-wrong.html#c6704554354936371874

    There is a reason the Catholic Church opposes the Alt Right:

    Catholics Stand against Alt-Right Wrongs

    https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/catholics-stand-against-alt-right-wrongs

    The Pro-Life Temptation

    https://altright.com/2017/03/19/the-pro-life-temptation/
     
    - http://www.unz.com/forum/why-the-alt-right-loves-single-payer-health-care/#comment-1831100

    Many of the White pro-immigration politicians, no matter if Democrat or Republican, were/are Roman Catholics, but I think even many of them were lied to and misled. Again the following is important to keep in mind:

    This is not an anti-Catholic website. It is critical of the church's hierarchy, not of its religious beliefs.
     
    - http://www.population-security.org/

    In the prologue, Blanshard said that he was not opposed to the Catholic religion or to Catholic Americans, but that the church's hierarchy had an undue influence on legislation, education and medical practice.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Freedom_and_Catholic_Power

    He joked about his own merits as a candidate, "I'm twice as liberal as Hubert Humphrey, twice as intelligent as Stuart Symington, and twice as Catholic as Jack Kennedy."[7] He was considered as a possible running mate for Lyndon Johnson in 1964, only to see fellow Minnesota Senator Humphrey chosen for that position.[8]

    Along with Ted Kennedy, McCarthy was one of the original co-sponsors of the Immigration Act of 1965. He later regretted this, noting that "unrecognized by virtually all of the bill's supporters, were provisions which would eventually lead to unprecedented growth in numbers and the transfer of policy control from the elected representatives of the American people to individuals wishing to bring relatives to this country".

     

    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_McCarthy#United_States_Senator

    So what went wrong? According to McCarthy, the caps were eroded away continuously on an ad hoc basis to adapt to immigration pressures that often were the result of American foreign policy. Cubans were given a welcome mat almost immediately, Vietnamese and other refugees from the failed Vietnam War were allowed in, as were people disrupted by Central American wars pursued by president Reagan.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1688097

    Even Jewish Emauel Celler had Catholic connections and lobbied hard for the Vatican:

    The impact Cardinal Spellman had on the United States’ history and destiny is difficult to overestimate, in my opinion, and he was also one of the main drivers behind the Zionist-Vatican alliance. Many people forget, that Emanuel Celler’s grand-father was Catholic
    [...]
    In July 1939, a strongly worded letter from Celler to U.S. Secretary of State Cordell Hull helped set in motion an extremely prolonged process of 45 years that finally led in 1984, three years after Celler’s death, to full, formal diplomatic relations between the United States and the Holy See.
    [...]
    I also want to emphasize, that in my opinion, and this might come as a surprise to some, the Zionists/Israel Lobby is only the junior partner, in this Zionist-Vatican alliance.

     

    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1689501

    The chaos and violence we are now witnessing in California and in Berkeley is most definitely the result of long-standing Catholic Church conspiracy against the traditional and historic American culture (Protestant) and peoples (North-West Europeans), in my opinion. Yes with some help from the Jewish community, but the Catholic Church was/is the main driver behind this pro-mass-immigration and pro-open borders policy and propaganda, in my opinion.

    This is why I keep banging on about this, because if Americans do not understand the root cause of these problems they are facing, they will not be able to fix this mess, and we will see more and more ``Battles of Berkeley.''

    A November 8, 1992, National Catholic Register article reveals why the Vatican is taking these stances. In it, Father Richard J. Ryscavage, executive director of the Migration and Refugee Services of the U.S. Catholic Conference noted that immigration is the “growing edge of Catholicism in the United States…We are in the middle of a huge wave of immigration…and most of them are Catholics…It’s the key to our future and the key to why the Church is going to be very healthy in the 21st century.“
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1634141

    I brought up this example to refute your earlier point, that only “manly” men could protect Western Civilization. Trump has many, many flaws, no doubt about it, but because of his lower testosterone levels and his other attributes ( for the connection of IQ, testosterone, etc. to genius see details here: http://www.unz.com/jthompson/isteve-metrics/#comment-1823832 ) he is Western Civilization’s best chance at survival, in my opinion
    [...]
    What will defeat “aggressiveness and violence/anti-social behavior of the incoming [Catholic] Third World” is not more “aggressiveness and violence/anti-social behavior” but more intelligence and common sense, and both men and women can make a contribution in this department.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839462
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  119. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max
    Indeed, I am just a humble copier and paster. And you are most definitively the World's greatest defender of free speech, bar none. That. Is. A. Fact.

    You have been surprisingly congenial lately, Alden. You are not going soft on us and me, are you?

    No hellfire and brimstone and no demands for a speech/commenting ban for me anymore?


    P.s.: I thought you had put me on your Grand Inquisitor list of heretics and people to ignore, Alden?

    Why don’t you follow you[r] own advice, and just ignore me, Alden?

    – http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1686089
     

    - http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-reason-the-fed-is-raising-rates-and-why-it-wont-work/#comment-1714337

    Here in all its beauty and with all its vigor, copied and pasted, your very first comment concerning and being concerned about me. Fond memories, fond memories...

    Alden says:
    November 3, 2016 at 3:48 pm GMT • 200 Words

    I’d advise not responding to FKA MAX’s nonsense about the Catholic Church. He’s like Rehmat. He roams the Internet posting anti Catholic comments after every article no matter how irrevalent to the article the comments are.
    Unfortunately he won’t go away until banned but he she or its best ignored

    FKA MAX has been banned from s lot of sites because of his more insane anti Catholic ideas. Here are a couple.

    1 The only reason the south lost the civil war was because of Irish Catholic mercaneries shipped over to NYC by the
    Vatican Navy. This was a plot by the Pope and Lincoln

    2. There is a stairway in the Vatican that goes way down almost to hell. It ends in a secret room where the devil and the Pope meet to discuss how to take over the world.

    3. The statue in top of the Capitol building in DC is actually Mary the mother of Jesus not a Roman goddess. Washington DC is not a Masonic design but a Catholic plot hidden behind the Masons design.

    4. The federal reserve is actually total controlled by the Vatican Bank

    And of course there is the usual Pope is the anti Christ, scarlet woman of Rome, whore of Babylon.

    He, she or it won’t go away unless banned but responding just leads to more posts and endless links to his previous posts.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1634065

    The reason I copy and paste so much and extensively is two-fold: firstly, I am not a very good and eloquent writer myself and I want to give proper credit to much better writers and researchers than myself; secondly, I never know if the articles, blogs and websites, I link to, will still be available and in existence online a week from now or not, with all the censorship that is going online and in general. By copying and pasting the most essential core ideas and information of these other people’s research and writings, and sharing them here at the Unz Review they will at least be partly archived/available for future reference, in case their writings, research and their websites and blogs get censored or deleted. I try to copy and paste as efficiently and minimally as I can, but sometimes more lengthy copy-&-pastes are required to maintain the context, integrity etc. of the information/idea.

    Also again, on one of my favorite pet peeves, the Catholic Church:

    But you are correct, that he, for example, does not distinguish between Protestant and Catholic culture within Western Civilization, which is a bit annoying to me, because I feel this distinction has extreme significance (as you will see and read, if you browse through my commenting history here at the Unz Review); he just uses the generic “Christian,” and even calls the U.S. a traditionally “Christian” country, when it is clearly a traditionally and historically Protestant county and culture. Very, very annoying to me, because it gives the Catholic Church immense power, cover, and protection in the U.S. for all kinds of nefarious activities, e.g., advocating for open borders towards Latin America, because they are “Christians” just like us.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/reforming-stuyvesant-hs-admissions-should-blacks-whites-team-up-against-asian-grinds/#comment-1810979

    Would America have the Free Speech battles and see the rise of White Nationalism in California and all over the country if the Catholic Church had not gotten its way on immigration, etc.? I don’t think so.

    Here another copy&paste job of mine, of a much more eloquent and visionary writer and much more knowledgeable researcher than myself:

    [MORE]

    California and the End of White America
    The unprecedented racial transformation of California and its political consequences.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/california-and-the-end-of-white-america/

    Otherwise, whites as a group will inevitably begin to display the same ethnic-minority-group politics as other minority groups, and this could break our nation. We face the choice of either supporting “the New American Melting Pot” or accepting “the Coming of White Nationalism.
    [...]
    And it was not just moderate Republicans like Wilson who held pro-immigrant views; so, too, contrary to stereotype, did many prominent conservatives. The entrepreneurship and economic dynamism of most immigrants, the strong family values and Catholic faith of Latinos, the fierce anti-Communism of Cuban and Vietnamese refugees–these did not go unnoticed during the Reagan era. In 1984, during the heated debate over the Simpson-Mazzoli Immigration Act, none other than right-winger Patrick J. Buchanan had denounced the proposed legislation as mean-spirited toward hard-working illegal immigrants, and as late as the 1990 publication of his conservative call-to-arms, Right from the Beginning, Buchanan was still casually referring to illegal immigrants (let alone to legal ones) as stalwarts of American optimism and economic advancement. Fiery Bob Dornan had originally unseated a Democratic incumbent in his Orange County congressional district thanks to a local influx of anti-Communist Vietnamese refugees, and his unbending anti-abortionism regularly won him many Latino votes; in his appearances on Rush Limbaugh’s radio show, Dornan scathingly denounced anti-immigrant activists.

    If the Right could find little fault with immigrants during this period, liberals and the Left often showed greater hostility. Environmentalists pushing for slow-growth economic measures often locked horns with Latino (and black) elected officials from working-class districts where the paramount issue was jobs rather than “quality of life”;

    Earlier in this century, Dr. James Conant, president of Harvard University, stated: “The greater [the] proportion of our youth who fail to attend public schools and who receive their education elsewhere, the greater the threat to our democratic unity.” [...]

    In 1875, Ulysses S. Grant campaigned on a plank that Catholic parochial schools would someday lead to another civil war.

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/merry-christmas-2/#comment-1705003

    This is why the Alt Right and Donald Trump are so important and so feared by the Catholic Church, because they are independent of the Vatican and oppose the Church’s “Invade the World/Invite the World” policy, unlike the regular/mainstream Democrats and Republicans, who have both been influenced and infiltrated by the Vatican; yes, even people like Steve Bannon and Patrick Buchanan are influenced by the Vatican and their operatives, in my opinion, and never truly stand up to the Vatican/Catholic Church, but try to work with it or even make excuses for it, i.e., the current Pope is a Communist, Masons have infiltrated the Church, etc. pp. The men of the Catholic Church are no amateurs and know exactly what they are doing and they are very adept at conspiring and conspiracy theorizing themselves, believe you me.

    In my experience and according to my research, the Vatican has a tendency to back both sides of a conflict, as an insurance policy. This does not mean however, that they don’t have a preference on who they want to be victorious.

    For the American Civil War, as I documented above, a pretty clear case can be made, in my opinion, that the Confederacy was their preferred party/ideology to win. Vagueness is an often deployed tactic of the Vatican, as demonstrated in the following example. They are masters of public relations and diplomacy. A Catholic acquaintance of mine once told me, that ”the Jesuits kill you with their sweetness.”

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1636997

    My comment on Vox Day’s article titled:

    Hitler did nothing wrong
    The list of things that Hitler did wrong is considerably longer than the list of things he did right.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/03/hitler-did-nothing-wrong.html

    This is another important aspect of history, that is not widely known:

    Vietnam why did we go?

    By Avro Manhattan

    CHAPTER 3

    Fatimaization of the West
    [...]
    The first was a vision of Hell (something well known to the modern world).
    The second was more to the point: a reiteration that Soviet Russia would be converted to the Catholic Church.
    The third was sealed in an envelope and put in custody of the ecclesiastical authority not to be revealed until 1960.
    [...]
    The dramatic reiteration of the revelation of the second secret about Soviet Russia immediately assumed a tremendous religious and political significance. The timing of the “disclosure” could not have been better chosen. The Fascist dictatorships were talking the same language: the annihilation of Soviet Russia.
    [...]
    Pius XII encouraged Catholics to volunteer for the Russian front. Catholics—most of them devotees of the Virgin of Fatima —joined the Nazi armies, from Italy, France, Ireland, Belgium, Holland, Latin America, the U.S. and Portugal. Spain sent a Catholic Blue Division.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/03/hitler-did-nothing-wrong.html#c6704554354936371874

    There is a reason the Catholic Church opposes the Alt Right:

    Catholics Stand against Alt-Right Wrongs

    https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/catholics-stand-against-alt-right-wrongs

    The Pro-Life Temptation

    https://altright.com/2017/03/19/the-pro-life-temptation/

    http://www.unz.com/forum/why-the-alt-right-loves-single-payer-health-care/#comment-1831100

    Many of the White pro-immigration politicians, no matter if Democrat or Republican, were/are Roman Catholics, but I think even many of them were lied to and misled. Again the following is important to keep in mind:

    This is not an anti-Catholic website. It is critical of the church’s hierarchy, not of its religious beliefs.

    http://www.population-security.org/

    In the prologue, Blanshard said that he was not opposed to the Catholic religion or to Catholic Americans, but that the church’s hierarchy had an undue influence on legislation, education and medical practice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Freedom_and_Catholic_Power

    He joked about his own merits as a candidate, “I’m twice as liberal as Hubert Humphrey, twice as intelligent as Stuart Symington, and twice as Catholic as Jack Kennedy.”[7] He was considered as a possible running mate for Lyndon Johnson in 1964, only to see fellow Minnesota Senator Humphrey chosen for that position.[8]

    Along with Ted Kennedy, McCarthy was one of the original co-sponsors of the Immigration Act of 1965. He later regretted this, noting that “unrecognized by virtually all of the bill’s supporters, were provisions which would eventually lead to unprecedented growth in numbers and the transfer of policy control from the elected representatives of the American people to individuals wishing to bring relatives to this country”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_McCarthy#United_States_Senator

    So what went wrong? According to McCarthy, the caps were eroded away continuously on an ad hoc basis to adapt to immigration pressures that often were the result of American foreign policy. Cubans were given a welcome mat almost immediately, Vietnamese and other refugees from the failed Vietnam War were allowed in, as were people disrupted by Central American wars pursued by president Reagan.

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1688097

    Even Jewish Emauel Celler had Catholic connections and lobbied hard for the Vatican:

    The impact Cardinal Spellman had on the United States’ history and destiny is difficult to overestimate, in my opinion, and he was also one of the main drivers behind the Zionist-Vatican alliance. Many people forget, that Emanuel Celler’s grand-father was Catholic
    [...]
    In July 1939, a strongly worded letter from Celler to U.S. Secretary of State Cordell Hull helped set in motion an extremely prolonged process of 45 years that finally led in 1984, three years after Celler’s death, to full, formal diplomatic relations between the United States and the Holy See.
    [...]
    I also want to emphasize, that in my opinion, and this might come as a surprise to some, the Zionists/Israel Lobby is only the junior partner, in this Zionist-Vatican alliance.

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1689501

    The chaos and violence we are now witnessing in California and in Berkeley is most definitely the result of long-standing Catholic Church conspiracy against the traditional and historic American culture (Protestant) and peoples (North-West Europeans), in my opinion. Yes with some help from the Jewish community, but the Catholic Church was/is the main driver behind this pro-mass-immigration and pro-open borders policy and propaganda, in my opinion.

    This is why I keep banging on about this, because if Americans do not understand the root cause of these problems they are facing, they will not be able to fix this mess, and we will see more and more “Battles of Berkeley.”

    A November 8, 1992, National Catholic Register article reveals why the Vatican is taking these stances. In it, Father Richard J. Ryscavage, executive director of the Migration and Refugee Services of the U.S. Catholic Conference noted that immigration is the “growing edge of Catholicism in the United States…We are in the middle of a huge wave of immigration…and most of them are Catholics…It’s the key to our future and the key to why the Church is going to be very healthy in the 21st century.“

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1634141

    I brought up this example to refute your earlier point, that only “manly” men could protect Western Civilization. Trump has many, many flaws, no doubt about it, but because of his lower testosterone levels and his other attributes ( for the connection of IQ, testosterone, etc. to genius see details here: http://www.unz.com/jthompson/isteve-metrics/#comment-1823832 ) he is Western Civilization’s best chance at survival, in my opinion
    [...]
    What will defeat “aggressiveness and violence/anti-social behavior of the incoming [Catholic] Third World” is not more “aggressiveness and violence/anti-social behavior” but more intelligence and common sense, and both men and women can make a contribution in this department.

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839462

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    American Patriot Says: VAMOOSE, Dopey Pope!

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/uninspired-american-patriot-says-vamoose-dopey-pope

    VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow writes: Perhaps because I have a Catholic wife and daughters, I practice a sort of Dissident Right Political Correctness and try to leave criticizing the Catholic Church’s role in the immigration debate (no worse than that of my own appalling ECUSA, but more important) to angry Catholic patriots, a substantial group. With the hoopla surrounding the Pope’s visit, however, I can’t stand it anymore—here Brenda Walker expresses a more traditionally Protestant view. As I wrote over nine years ago: “The post-1965 immigration disaster, and the bishops` foolish response to it, threatens to revive a controversy about the Catholic Church in America that had been dormant since the days of Nation editor Paul Blanshard`s 1949 best-selling polemic American Freedom and Catholic Power …”
     

    Well, I am one of the even more millions of Americans who are emphatically not “inspired.” I believe the Catholic Church has spent millions of dollars to lobby for Amnesty and increased immigration simply and solely because without Hispanic immigrants of the faith, the Church in the U.S. would be shrinking rapidly—due to its abject failure to inspire parishioners’ loyalty.
    [...]
    But the United States of America was founded on a different principle—that of human freedom based on limited, representative government. Quite simply, America is a result of the Reformation. Many in the founding generations of Protestants came for religious freedom and to escape oppression acting in the name of faith. Traditional Americans don’t like kings, and founders fought a revolution to be rid of them. Religious kings are a double bad.

    Much of the historical American sentiment smeared as “anti-Catholic” is actually a rejection of all kings and oppressive rule in Europe, where the Vatican acted as a government.
     
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  120. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max
    The reason I copy and paste so much and extensively is two-fold: firstly, I am not a very good and eloquent writer myself and I want to give proper credit to much better writers and researchers than myself; secondly, I never know if the articles, blogs and websites, I link to, will still be available and in existence online a week from now or not, with all the censorship that is going online and in general. By copying and pasting the most essential core ideas and information of these other people's research and writings, and sharing them here at the Unz Review they will at least be partly archived/available for future reference, in case their writings, research and their websites and blogs get censored or deleted. I try to copy and paste as efficiently and minimally as I can, but sometimes more lengthy copy-&-pastes are required to maintain the context, integrity etc. of the information/idea.

    Also again, on one of my favorite pet peeves, the Catholic Church:

    But you are correct, that he, for example, does not distinguish between Protestant and Catholic culture within Western Civilization, which is a bit annoying to me, because I feel this distinction has extreme significance (as you will see and read, if you browse through my commenting history here at the Unz Review); he just uses the generic “Christian,” and even calls the U.S. a traditionally “Christian” country, when it is clearly a traditionally and historically Protestant county and culture. Very, very annoying to me, because it gives the Catholic Church immense power, cover, and protection in the U.S. for all kinds of nefarious activities, e.g., advocating for open borders towards Latin America, because they are “Christians” just like us.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/reforming-stuyvesant-hs-admissions-should-blacks-whites-team-up-against-asian-grinds/#comment-1810979

    Would America have the Free Speech battles and see the rise of White Nationalism in California and all over the country if the Catholic Church had not gotten its way on immigration, etc.? I don't think so.

    Here another copy&paste job of mine, of a much more eloquent and visionary writer and much more knowledgeable researcher than myself:

    California and the End of White America
    The unprecedented racial transformation of California and its political consequences.
    http://www.unz.com/runz/california-and-the-end-of-white-america/

    Otherwise, whites as a group will inevitably begin to display the same ethnic-minority-group politics as other minority groups, and this could break our nation. We face the choice of either supporting “the New American Melting Pot” or accepting “the Coming of White Nationalism.
    [...]
    And it was not just moderate Republicans like Wilson who held pro-immigrant views; so, too, contrary to stereotype, did many prominent conservatives. The entrepreneurship and economic dynamism of most immigrants, the strong family values and Catholic faith of Latinos, the fierce anti-Communism of Cuban and Vietnamese refugees–these did not go unnoticed during the Reagan era. In 1984, during the heated debate over the Simpson-Mazzoli Immigration Act, none other than right-winger Patrick J. Buchanan had denounced the proposed legislation as mean-spirited toward hard-working illegal immigrants, and as late as the 1990 publication of his conservative call-to-arms, Right from the Beginning, Buchanan was still casually referring to illegal immigrants (let alone to legal ones) as stalwarts of American optimism and economic advancement. Fiery Bob Dornan had originally unseated a Democratic incumbent in his Orange County congressional district thanks to a local influx of anti-Communist Vietnamese refugees, and his unbending anti-abortionism regularly won him many Latino votes; in his appearances on Rush Limbaugh’s radio show, Dornan scathingly denounced anti-immigrant activists.

    If the Right could find little fault with immigrants during this period, liberals and the Left often showed greater hostility. Environmentalists pushing for slow-growth economic measures often locked horns with Latino (and black) elected officials from working-class districts where the paramount issue was jobs rather than “quality of life”;
     

    Earlier in this century, Dr. James Conant, president of Harvard University, stated: “The greater [the] proportion of our youth who fail to attend public schools and who receive their education elsewhere, the greater the threat to our democratic unity.” [...]

    In 1875, Ulysses S. Grant campaigned on a plank that Catholic parochial schools would someday lead to another civil war.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/merry-christmas-2/#comment-1705003

    This is why the Alt Right and Donald Trump are so important and so feared by the Catholic Church, because they are independent of the Vatican and oppose the Church's ``Invade the World/Invite the World'' policy, unlike the regular/mainstream Democrats and Republicans, who have both been influenced and infiltrated by the Vatican; yes, even people like Steve Bannon and Patrick Buchanan are influenced by the Vatican and their operatives, in my opinion, and never truly stand up to the Vatican/Catholic Church, but try to work with it or even make excuses for it, i.e., the current Pope is a Communist, Masons have infiltrated the Church, etc. pp. The men of the Catholic Church are no amateurs and know exactly what they are doing and they are very adept at conspiring and conspiracy theorizing themselves, believe you me.

    In my experience and according to my research, the Vatican has a tendency to back both sides of a conflict, as an insurance policy. This does not mean however, that they don’t have a preference on who they want to be victorious.

    For the American Civil War, as I documented above, a pretty clear case can be made, in my opinion, that the Confederacy was their preferred party/ideology to win. Vagueness is an often deployed tactic of the Vatican, as demonstrated in the following example. They are masters of public relations and diplomacy. A Catholic acquaintance of mine once told me, that ”the Jesuits kill you with their sweetness.”
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1636997

    My comment on Vox Day's article titled:

    Hitler did nothing wrong
    The list of things that Hitler did wrong is considerably longer than the list of things he did right.
    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/03/hitler-did-nothing-wrong.html

    This is another important aspect of history, that is not widely known:

    Vietnam why did we go?

    By Avro Manhattan

    CHAPTER 3

    Fatimaization of the West
    [...]
    The first was a vision of Hell (something well known to the modern world).
    The second was more to the point: a reiteration that Soviet Russia would be converted to the Catholic Church.
    The third was sealed in an envelope and put in custody of the ecclesiastical authority not to be revealed until 1960.
    [...]
    The dramatic reiteration of the revelation of the second secret about Soviet Russia immediately assumed a tremendous religious and political significance. The timing of the "disclosure" could not have been better chosen. The Fascist dictatorships were talking the same language: the annihilation of Soviet Russia.
    [...]
    Pius XII encouraged Catholics to volunteer for the Russian front. Catholics—most of them devotees of the Virgin of Fatima —joined the Nazi armies, from Italy, France, Ireland, Belgium, Holland, Latin America, the U.S. and Portugal. Spain sent a Catholic Blue Division.
     
    - http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/03/hitler-did-nothing-wrong.html#c6704554354936371874

    There is a reason the Catholic Church opposes the Alt Right:

    Catholics Stand against Alt-Right Wrongs

    https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/catholics-stand-against-alt-right-wrongs

    The Pro-Life Temptation

    https://altright.com/2017/03/19/the-pro-life-temptation/
     
    - http://www.unz.com/forum/why-the-alt-right-loves-single-payer-health-care/#comment-1831100

    Many of the White pro-immigration politicians, no matter if Democrat or Republican, were/are Roman Catholics, but I think even many of them were lied to and misled. Again the following is important to keep in mind:

    This is not an anti-Catholic website. It is critical of the church's hierarchy, not of its religious beliefs.
     
    - http://www.population-security.org/

    In the prologue, Blanshard said that he was not opposed to the Catholic religion or to Catholic Americans, but that the church's hierarchy had an undue influence on legislation, education and medical practice.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Freedom_and_Catholic_Power

    He joked about his own merits as a candidate, "I'm twice as liberal as Hubert Humphrey, twice as intelligent as Stuart Symington, and twice as Catholic as Jack Kennedy."[7] He was considered as a possible running mate for Lyndon Johnson in 1964, only to see fellow Minnesota Senator Humphrey chosen for that position.[8]

    Along with Ted Kennedy, McCarthy was one of the original co-sponsors of the Immigration Act of 1965. He later regretted this, noting that "unrecognized by virtually all of the bill's supporters, were provisions which would eventually lead to unprecedented growth in numbers and the transfer of policy control from the elected representatives of the American people to individuals wishing to bring relatives to this country".

     

    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_McCarthy#United_States_Senator

    So what went wrong? According to McCarthy, the caps were eroded away continuously on an ad hoc basis to adapt to immigration pressures that often were the result of American foreign policy. Cubans were given a welcome mat almost immediately, Vietnamese and other refugees from the failed Vietnam War were allowed in, as were people disrupted by Central American wars pursued by president Reagan.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1688097

    Even Jewish Emauel Celler had Catholic connections and lobbied hard for the Vatican:

    The impact Cardinal Spellman had on the United States’ history and destiny is difficult to overestimate, in my opinion, and he was also one of the main drivers behind the Zionist-Vatican alliance. Many people forget, that Emanuel Celler’s grand-father was Catholic
    [...]
    In July 1939, a strongly worded letter from Celler to U.S. Secretary of State Cordell Hull helped set in motion an extremely prolonged process of 45 years that finally led in 1984, three years after Celler’s death, to full, formal diplomatic relations between the United States and the Holy See.
    [...]
    I also want to emphasize, that in my opinion, and this might come as a surprise to some, the Zionists/Israel Lobby is only the junior partner, in this Zionist-Vatican alliance.

     

    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1689501

    The chaos and violence we are now witnessing in California and in Berkeley is most definitely the result of long-standing Catholic Church conspiracy against the traditional and historic American culture (Protestant) and peoples (North-West Europeans), in my opinion. Yes with some help from the Jewish community, but the Catholic Church was/is the main driver behind this pro-mass-immigration and pro-open borders policy and propaganda, in my opinion.

    This is why I keep banging on about this, because if Americans do not understand the root cause of these problems they are facing, they will not be able to fix this mess, and we will see more and more ``Battles of Berkeley.''

    A November 8, 1992, National Catholic Register article reveals why the Vatican is taking these stances. In it, Father Richard J. Ryscavage, executive director of the Migration and Refugee Services of the U.S. Catholic Conference noted that immigration is the “growing edge of Catholicism in the United States…We are in the middle of a huge wave of immigration…and most of them are Catholics…It’s the key to our future and the key to why the Church is going to be very healthy in the 21st century.“
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1634141

    I brought up this example to refute your earlier point, that only “manly” men could protect Western Civilization. Trump has many, many flaws, no doubt about it, but because of his lower testosterone levels and his other attributes ( for the connection of IQ, testosterone, etc. to genius see details here: http://www.unz.com/jthompson/isteve-metrics/#comment-1823832 ) he is Western Civilization’s best chance at survival, in my opinion
    [...]
    What will defeat “aggressiveness and violence/anti-social behavior of the incoming [Catholic] Third World” is not more “aggressiveness and violence/anti-social behavior” but more intelligence and common sense, and both men and women can make a contribution in this department.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839462

    Corrections: … *Emanuel* Celler … and … the result of *a* long-standing Catholic Church conspiracy …

    American Patriot Says: VAMOOSE, Dopey Pope!

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/uninspired-american-patriot-says-vamoose-dopey-pope

    VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow writes: Perhaps because I have a Catholic wife and daughters, I practice a sort of Dissident Right Political Correctness and try to leave criticizing the Catholic Church’s role in the immigration debate (no worse than that of my own appalling ECUSA, but more important) to angry Catholic patriots, a substantial group. With the hoopla surrounding the Pope’s visit, however, I can’t stand it anymore—here Brenda Walker expresses a more traditionally Protestant view. As I wrote over nine years ago: “The post-1965 immigration disaster, and the bishops` foolish response to it, threatens to revive a controversy about the Catholic Church in America that had been dormant since the days of Nation editor Paul Blanshard`s 1949 best-selling polemic American Freedom and Catholic Power …”

    Well, I am one of the even more millions of Americans who are emphatically not “inspired.” I believe the Catholic Church has spent millions of dollars to lobby for Amnesty and increased immigration simply and solely because without Hispanic immigrants of the faith, the Church in the U.S. would be shrinking rapidly—due to its abject failure to inspire parishioners’ loyalty.
    [...]
    But the United States of America was founded on a different principle—that of human freedom based on limited, representative government. Quite simply, America is a result of the Reformation. Many in the founding generations of Protestants came for religious freedom and to escape oppression acting in the name of faith. Traditional Americans don’t like kings, and founders fought a revolution to be rid of them. Religious kings are a double bad.

    Much of the historical American sentiment smeared as “anti-Catholic” is actually a rejection of all kings and oppressive rule in Europe, where the Vatican acted as a government.

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  121. @Joe Wong
    Don't you ever feel jealous and resentful about the luxurious and decadent lives Ivanks and Donald Trump have while you are working day and night to pay the rent for a basement, and you cannot afford to see doctor who will bankrupt to fill his greed? Mind you the 1% say you guys deserve the rotten life because you guys are lazy bums.

    Don’t you just love how the left promises free health care, free education and free housing plus Internet for everyone.

    But also kerps forgetting to telp everyone that it is the working class who will foot the bill through rampant tax increases and confiscation of property/businesses while also being denied access to any of the services based on their skin color and race.

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  122. Bill says:
    @daniel le mouche
    Hey He-man Trump-Soldier,
    'It’s hard to overstate how stupid “America the idea” is.'

    The foreign writer you attempt to belittle knows more about America than you do, it seems. That commenter made the absolutely correct assertion that the very essence of being American is the Constitution, and all the freedoms codified therein. Is America not, in essence, the Freedom of Speech? Even the Right to Bear Arms against a totalitarian regime? (Of course, it was presupposed that the population would be intelligent and educated, as well as courageous, enough to organize a real takeover, or taking back, of the government, which it turned out is exactly NOT what happened with the election of Saviour Donald by Fox News-watching good old boys!)

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  123. Bill says:
    @Venator
    You are right. Maybe a coward will bring a gun. Then what?

    He stains his pants?

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  124. Nice job, John Smith. There are socialists all over these blogs. It’s weird how they get some things, but never learned about property rights and free markets, even though the basics can be learned about the time one is in kindergarten.

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  125. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max
    No worries, Mr. Kirkpatrick, I believe everything will work out fine in the end, but you are correct, I also worry about a potential escalation of violence. In my opinion, the Alt Right should stay out of street fights in general. We have the interwebs, after all, to spread the word.

    The pen/keyboard is mightier than the sword.

    Even though Donald Trump denies it in the following interview; he, in my opinion, most decidedly is a Rockefeller Republican, but it is not at all a bad thing. Mr. Sailer commented on this in detail in November of 2016:

    Trump as the New Nelson Rockefeller

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/trump-as-the-new-nelson-rockefeller/

    Donald Trump Interview 1988 Republican convention

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI

    Uploaded on Jan 30, 2012

    Larry king interviews Donald Trump at the 1988 republican convention

    This is Trump to a T, in my opinion:

    A politician who self-described as having a “Democrat heart with a Republican head,” Nelson Rockefeller would be something of a political anomaly today. Biographer Richard Norton Smith, author of “On His Own Terms,” joins Judy Woodruff to discuss what distinguished the four-time New York governor and former vice president.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/not-a-lot-of-progress-in-thinking-about-unwanted-sexual-advances-since-anita-hill/#comment-1610711

    Trump is neither a fascist nor a racist. He is a patriot, with an understandable and justified Anglo-Saxon bias, just like William N. Vaile
    [...]
    He is a modern-day, Big Stick Roosevelt/Rockefeller Republican, in my opinion.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/plee/trump-we-wish-the-problem-was-fascism/#comment-1617650

    If true, Trump’s best Cabinet pick yet, in my opinion.

    And his first “Rockefeller Republican” pick, which I have been waiting for.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-latest-conspiracy/#comment-1687344

    On Bannon, etc. I recommend to watch Roger Stone's recent interview with Chuck Todd. This video could soon be deleted on copyright infringement grounds though. Mr. Stone says that Bannon failed to fill spots in the administration with nationalists and now he is isolated, alone and vulnerable. I agree with Mr. Stone's assessment of the situation:

    Chuck Todd Vs Roger Stone Face Off: ‘Do You Understand Why You’re a Suspect?’ Full Interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehszm3HDUNA

    I also want to make clear, that I think, that Steve Bannon is an American Patriot, and that without his help Donald Trump would not have won the election, but I also think some of his worldview is unrefined and contradictory, and therefore could be a liability and weakness going forward
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653271

    In my opinion, Donald Trump is a WASP agent/advocate as well, and that is why I support him
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1653850

    like yourself I was initially skeptical of Donald Trump, so I performed some Extreme Vetting of my own on him in September of 2015. The results were overwhelming positive and beneficial for the United States of America, and that is the reason I decided to throw my support behind Donald Trump from relatively early on in the race.

    Please, see my following post here on the Unz Review and read all my previous posts I linked to there, and you will understand why I trust Donald Trump and have such confidence in him. Maybe this, admittedly rather esoteric, knowledge can put your heart and mind at ease as well: http://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1654918

    The biggest threat to Trump is this, in my opinion:

    There is probably no one who pushes the Zionist-Vatican alliance and agenda harder than the Murdoch media empire
     
    - http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    Rupert Murdoch’s Heat Street is attacking the Unz Review, Vdare.com and Mr. Sailer.

    In 2016 wikileaks revealed that despite it’s claims of conservative ideology the editor of [Heat Street] Louise Mensch secretly created advertising for liberal democrat Hillary Clinton during her failed run for President of the United States. Mensch has threatened to sue the journalists at wikileaks for revealing her support of Clinton publicly.[9]
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-long-election-stage-two/#comment-1659662

    [Wendi Deng Murdoch] is also “besties” with Ivanka Trump. How much does she influence Ivanka and Jared, who in turn then influence Donald Trump?
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839275

    Not being Donald Trump, but especially not being Steve Bannon fanboys is the key to Make America truly Great Again… in my humble opinion.

    Ann Coulter is doing a great job of putting pressure on Trump, Bannon, et al.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839462

    Jared’s family being big supporters of the State of Israel.

    For Kushner, Israel Policy May Be Shaped by the Personal

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/us/politics/jared-kushner-israel.html
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/tomster-on-marriage/#comment-1839604

    The biggest threat to Trump is this, in my opinion:

    There is probably no one who pushes the Zionist-Vatican alliance and agenda harder than the Murdoch media empire

    I might have been wrong on this… when I wrote this Bill O’Reilly was still at Fox News.

    Things seem to be changing at Fox News:

    Michael Wolff: It’s James Murdoch’s Fox News Now

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-wolff-james-murdochs-fox-news-995800

    He seized his first opportunity for reform in July when, over his father Rupert’s protests and his brother and co-executive Lachlan’s ambivalence, he pushed for the ouster of Ailes, the network’s founder and almost all-powerful executive. When the O’Reilly story hit the Times, he overrode his father and brother again — and, by the same method he had used with Ailes, hiring a Democratic-associated law firm, Paul Weiss, to perform a rubber-stamp investigation. (In neither the Ailes nor O’Reilly investigations were the targets of the investigation interviewed.)

    It was, he proudly told friends, a right decision rather than a business decision. The billionaire scion was aligning himself, profits be damned, with a new generation of corporate responsibility. That put him quite directly at odds with his father. It would be quite inconceivable to imagine Rupert sacrificing sure profits for greater good or a better image; indeed, his company had always been a pirate company.

    Then I just saw this amazing clip with Tucker Carlson, who will take over Bill O’Reilly’s 8PM prime-time slot, where he states that he is extremely inquisitive, curious, and believes it is important and that he is not afraid to ask the hard questions and deal with controversial subject matters, because, get this… he is Protestant! WTF

    From about 4 minutes into the video:

    Tucker Carlson previews his interview with Caitlyn Jenner

    Merton thesis

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merton_thesis

    Merton focuses on English Puritanism and German Pietism as being responsible for the development of the scientific revolution of the 17th and 18th centuries. He explains that the connection between religious affiliation and interest in science is a result of a significant synergy between the ascetic Protestant values and those of modern science.[5] Protestant values encouraged scientific research by allowing science to identify God’s influence on the world and thus providing religious justification for scientific research.[1]

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/reforming-stuyvesant-hs-admissions-should-blacks-whites-team-up-against-asian-grinds/#comment-1812370

    I believe James Murdoch was raised Roman Catholic, and might even be a loyal Papist, so it will be interesting to see how Fox News will position itself on Israel, the Vatican, Russia, Climate Change, etc. with him having more influence:

    During his marriage to Torv, a Roman Catholic, Murdoch was made a Knight Commander of the Order of Saint Gregory the Great (KSG), a papal honour awarded by Pope John Paul II.[138] Torv and Murdoch had three children: Elisabeth Murdoch (born in Sydney, Australia on 22 August 1968), Lachlan Murdoch (born in London, UK on 8 September 1971), and James Murdoch, (born in London on 13 December 1972).
    [...]
    The meet and greet led to a minor “pope for hire” firestorm in some circles. The Tablet carries a photograph of James Murdoch bowing before Benedict XVI as they meet. If you’ve never bought The Tablet before, the picture alone is worth the cover price.

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/#comment-1656181

    Murdoch was married in 2000[32] and has three children, Anneka (born 2003), Walter (born 2006), and Emerson (born 2008), with his American wife Kathryn Hufschmid Murdoch. Kathryn works for the Clinton Climate Initiative, a charitable foundation set up by the former U.S. president, Bill Clinton in 2006.[9] In 2013, they launched Quadrivium Foundation.[33]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Murdoch#Personal_life

    This is a very welcome new development for the Alt Right:

    Tucker Carlson’s Reinvention

    If you haven’t heard by now, Tucker Carlson has replaced Megyn Kelly on FOX News and has evolved from a mainstream conservative into a borderline Alt-Lite personality:
    [...]
    Case in point, the Sweden story.

    It was all over sites like Infowars and Breitbart in the two weeks before Tucker Carlson picked it up. It went from there all the way up the rightwing media food chain to President Trump. We’ve become fans of the show in this household even though we consume far more more information from the internet than cable television. He’s reaching an audience which normally doesn’t watch FOX News.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/02/24/tucker-carlsons-reinvention/

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  126. FKA Max says:
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    I also worry about a potential escalation of violence.
     
    Apparently the young woman Nathan Damigo punched in the forehead at the 2nd Battle of Berkeley was throwing glass bottles at people all day.

    TYT’s Eric Byler spoke at length to White Nationalist (Alt-Right) Activist, Nathan Damigo at conference hosted by the National Policy Institute at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington DC.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/forum/an-alt-right-makeover-shrouds-the-swastikas/#comment-1688216

    janey‏ @janeygak

    janey Retweeted Shane Bauer

    Are you seriously accusing Stephen Lam, the Reuters photographer, of photoshopping the photo and adding the bottle?
    http://pictures.reuters.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&ALID=2C0FQE356VHES&VBID=2C0FC0AA24JS&POPUPPN=16&POPUPIID=2C0FQE35QMT2X
     
    - 9:37 AM - 19 Apr 2017 https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/854735758799716352

    Moldylocks Antifa girl was THROWING GLASS BOTTLES when she got punched

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bHf6j1T5o

    Was a Protester Throwing Explosives Into a Berkeley Crowd Before She Was Punched?
    There’s no evidence Louise Rosealma was using a glass bottle she appeared to be holding as an incendiary device.

    http://www.snopes.com/antifa-protestor-punch-m80/

    While many media outlets painted a sympathetic picture of Rosealma and claimed that she had been “sucker punched” during the riot, others claimed that she was actually an instigator to the violence. A photograph purportedly showing Rosealma holding a glass bottle was circulated along with the claim that she had filled the bottle with explosives and was preparing to launch it into the crowd when Damigo stopped her:
    [...]
    Still, we found no record of Damigo claiming that he saw Rosealma putting an M80 explosive inside a glass bottle and throwing at it protesters. No quotations from Damigo were provided, nor any evidence that the bottle was actually filled with explosives. In fact, the photographic evidence does more to disprove this claim than to support it.
    [...]
    Reporter Tim Pool, who took this video, said in the interview that M80s were being thrown into the crowd — but not that they were being stuffed inside glass bottles, which would create a far more dangerous weapon.
    [...]
    When we reached her for comment, Rosealma said that she never threw an explosive, and that this rumor was invented by the alt-right to justify Damigo’s actions. Rosealma also told us that the only time she held a bottle during the event was when she was cleaning up trash, and that the images of her with a bottle (both the Reuters photograph and the stills from the video) had been doctored:
    [...]
    It’s possible that Rosealma was simply cleaning up trash when a fight broke out. It’s also possible that the bottle was being used as a weapon (either in defense or aggression). However, the claim that this bottle was filled with explosives is completely unfounded.

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  127. Bryce says:
    @Kirt
    I've seen a list of names of those arrested in the latest Berkeley melee, but no breakdown as to how many were antifa partisans and how many free speech partisans. Has anyone seen such a breakdown?

    Not a real breakdown, but you can get the majority of the Antifa folks with the charge “wearing a mask while committing a criminal offense.”

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/04/17/berkeley-police-release-names-of-people-arrested-at-trump-protests/amp/

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  128. @anon

    but we all know trumps too stupid for anything coherant
     
    i don't believe that for a second

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    but we all know trumps too stupid for anything coherent

    i don’t believe that for a second

    obviously we have different metrics, unless youre one of those 4G chess types. Trumps not actually a moron, hes just not particularly bright, he doesnt read, hes intellectually lazy and incurious. This accusation that hes the sum of the last few people that talked to him is more true than not, Im sure he was bright enough to figure out he didnt have a clue and had better outsource quick and had better give in since he was so outgunned he might be completely wrong about everything.

    A really intelligent person who inexplicably found himself completely clueless at his age and position could quickly get up to speed and see what I see and I bet you see, but he couldnt hes swamped he only knows he has some popular support but is surprised to find how little it counts and he finds all the jews n his life who he trusted to make him rich disagree with everything he thinks so here we are hes totally cucked. He is trying to get a couple little things like the wall done to save face nd get relected but by that time we will all ralize hes deported only the same amount of criminals as obama that hes done nothing he promised and everything he swore he wouldnt. you and I overlaid a rational coherence of a sort of reactionary nationalism over his tweet philosophy but you knew as well as I it was wishful thinking

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