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Sura 114 – Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of men, The King of men, The God of men, From the evil of the whisperings of the slinking (devil), Who whispers into the hearts of men, From among the jinn and the men.

There couldn’t have been a more potent demonstration of rank ignorance than Joy Behar’s tour de force statement on ABC’s The View. She was referring to The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan when she let fly this monstrous absurdity: “I mean, what is his problem with Jews? The Jews did not own slaves—I don’t know what his issue is.” Meghan McCain quickly added a “Yeah,” thus compounding the offense. They were both in a state of agitation over The Minister’s now famously upsetting but—it turns out—deadly accurate use of a metaphor when he said

When they talk about Farrakhan, call me a hater, call me an anti-Semite—stop it: I’m anti-termite. I don’t know anything about hating anyone because of their religious preference.

That statement stands alone as a response to the age-old nonsense that ALL Black leaders who criticize white and Jewish behavior are “haters” and “virulent anti-Semites.” As we will see, not only is there plenty to criticize, but the utilization of the termite metaphor is so absurdly common in political discourse that one must ask the mischief makers: “Is that all you got?!”

The Minister himself has used the termite metaphor at least two times over his 60 years of divine service—both times are recorded in the Final Call — wherein he was referring to the corrosive effects of adultery and corruption. In neither case was he referring to the Jewish people or the Jewish religion; instead, he was describing a condition of the mind and heart.

It is important to note here that the very core Teachings of the Nation of Islam deal most powerfully with the condition of the human mind and heart. We are taught that the most significant categorization IS NOT a racial one, but a spiritual one. The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad has said to The Minister: “Brother, the best religion is, ‘Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.’ When you look at all of the teachings of Jesus, you can boil it down to this basic principal, ‘Do unto others.’” One is either a believer in truth or a promoter of falsehood. It is as simple and as complex as God versus Satan. The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan has ALWAYS been dedicated to that principle. Indeed, in his very language in Detroit he was drawing this divine distinction: I am not anti-Semitic—I am ANTI-EXPLOITATION and a defender of my people against ALL who are exploiters. And just as with Jesus, his “hard teachings” have rankled many an exploiter’s feathers.

Minister Farrakhan was obviously and purposely misquoted by a wicked interpreter in order to feed the corrupted hearts of the increasingly desperate Jewish racists, who are only now coming to grips with a destructive and exploitative history that will be covered at length in Part 2 of this article. Their slanderous behavior has made them even more perfectly analogous to the nature and behavior of that little milky white creature, the termite.

Before we move on (in part 2) to debunk Joy Behar’s shocking historical ignorance about the Jews in the African slave trade, let us first clear out some embarrassing hypocrisy. The first to make an issue of The Minister’s self-defense was none other than Chelsea Clinton, the daughter of presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, who as senator referred to Blacks, the voting base of her Democrat party, as “super predators,” an insulting animalization of Blacks that lost her the election. Her racism was fueled by the wicked incarceration policies of her husband William, the 42nd president, who during his two terms in office put more Black men in prison than the combined presidencies of Reagan and Bush1. Chelsea, who was so anxious to begin her political career with a racist anti-Farrakhan tweet, has never tweeted about either of her parents’ capital crimes.

Meghan McCain’s only apparent claim to fame is that her father was the recently deceased Arizona senator John McCain, whose white supremacy she has inherited. During the 2000 presidential campaign the senator was asked by reporters why he continued to use the ugliest of racial slurs when referring to Asians: “I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live…” His bigotry wasn’t limited to “gooks”:—he hated Blacks too: McCain supported the rescinding of Martin Luther King Day; he endorsed George Wallace, Jr., a favorite speaker among white supremacists; and he fought to keep the Confederate battle flag flying over South Carolina. Daughter Meghan—like Chelsea—has learned her race hate from the best.

Termites as Political Metaphor

Make no mistake, these women are being pimped from behind the scenes by the Anti-Defamation League/Mossad, which is determined to hide their own hate and racism by artificially creating “black racists,” inflating words, symbols, and signs over the Jews’ long, long, long history of anti-Black deeds. Today they use “termites,” a few months ago they used the 2005 photo of Obama with Minister Farrakhan, and for years their M.O. has been to fill the news with a fake record of recriminations that will stand in history as justification for his planned assassination. But each time the Jews plan (HQ 3:54), Allah—Who IS the Best of Planners—plans, and fewer and fewer people are swayed, and the Jews’ open deception is further exposed.

The metaphorical use of termite has been deployed frequently throughout time. Richard Perle was the Jewish Neoconservative that is most responsible for the Machiavellian “War on Terror.” To prepare the world Perle sent out his Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense with anti-Muslim rhetoric like this: “They essentially, like termites, hollow out the structure of the civil society and other institutions for the purpose of creating conditions under which the jihad will succeed.” Frank Gaffney was not run off social media; he writes for the Washington Times and the Jewish World Review. You can find him here, tweeting filthily: https://twitter.com/frankgaffney.

Spero News columnist Father Thomas Collins is a Catholic priest in Virginia who wrote in a similar vein about “The termites that are eating away at America’s soul,” and he assailed the promotion of abortion and sexual promiscuity and the destruction of family values.

Some of the most racist language and policies from the Trump administration are the work of a Jewish man named Stephen Miller, who according to Esquire magazine “Is Waging War on … America….from the shadows.” It is Miller who is credited with the policy of separating the families of illegal immigrants. Esquire describes Miller’s political tactics: “He’ll install allies in federal agencies to act as ‘termites,’ eating the structure from within to prevent it from providing services. That’s part of a larger effort to operate in the shadows.” Esquire’s intact account can be found here: https://twitter.com/esquire.

Going back a bit, the 1941 book Scum of the Earth, by the famed Jewish writer Arthur Koestler, contains a quote graphically describing the breakdown in French society after the Nazi takeover:

“…A planter enters his house after an absence of five or six days; everything is apparently as he left it, nothing seems changed. He sits down on a chair, it collapses. He grabs the table to regain his balance, it falls to pieces under his hands. He leans against the central pillar, which gives way and brings down the roof in a cloud of dust.”

Koestler is quoting from Maurice Maeterlinck’s Life of the Termites in order to establish in his readers’ minds a salient political point. Not only does Koestler find the termite to be the most accurate metaphor for society’s decay, but his other book, The Thirteenth Tribe, debunks the claim by the white Caucasian Ashkenazi Jews that they are Jews at all! His careful, scholarly, and historically accurate 1976 study found that the white people we think of as Jews—the Netanyahus, the Jonathan Greenblatts, the Alan Dershowitzes and the rest of them—are imposters with no genetic connection to the holy land or holy people of the Bible; they are not even Semites! Koestler proves that their Caucasian tribal ancestors converted to Judaism sometime in the 8th century. So the charge of “anti-Semitism” constantly leveled at Blacks and their leaders has no actual meaning at all.

The Southern Israelite, serving Jewish segregationists in the Jim Crow South, was using the “termites” metaphor to describe its enemies in a 1940 front-page article titled “Nazi Termites Fomenting Unrest; Press and Radio Subsidized.” It is an eerie foreshadowing of the racist scare campaign that the ADL is running at this very moment through social media.

The American Hebrew magazine from 1946 followed suit, publishing an article by Rabbi Leon Spitz titled “Exterminate Anti-Semitic Termites As Our Ancestors Did 2,500 Years Ago,” in which he admits just in the title that Jews committed genocide—and he views this with pride.

In 2018, several “news” centers that now feign outrage at The Minister’s use of the word “termite” were using the very same metaphor in the very same way, with no adverse blowback of the Chelsea Clinton variety.

A veteran Environmental Protection Agency scientist profiled in the Washington Post described the Trump administration—or, as the Post called it, “the current regime”—in these words: “These people are like termites, gnawing at the foundation.” The WP Titter page remains unscathed: https://twitter.com/washingtonpost.

Earlier this year investigative reporter and Pulitzer Prize-winning author David Cay Johnston was promoting his new book, in which he makes the very same termites analogy. He has been interviewed and his book reviewed by a wide range of media outlets, including the New York Times, the Baltimore Sun, and Democracy Now, despite the Jewish publisher Simon & Schuster’s description of his book posted on Amazon.com:

“Bestselling author and longtime Trump observer David Cay Johnston shines a light on the political termites who have infested our government under the Trump Administration, destroying it from within and compromising our jobs, safety, finances, and more.”

Both Johnston’s and Simon & Schuster’s Twitter accounts are going strong at: https://twitter.com/DavidCayJ and https://twitter.com/SimonSchuster.

White conservative gadfly Michael Reagan, son of former President Ronald Reagan, tweeted his outrage at Minister Farrakhan’s Black use of the “termite” metaphor, attempting to shame Twitter for not “banning” him from its platform. But not too long ago Reagan had this to say about “liberals”:

“If you can think of the liberals, think of them as termites eating away at the foundations of your home each and every day….See, that’s what they do every day. See, we can’t afford to let them keep doing that…”

The man is still tweeting his hypocrisy at https://twitter.com/ReaganWorld.

Former Obama official and political analyst Van Jones took great pains to connect the federal government with “termites” wherever he appeared on the air. On CNN he said, “When you’ve got termites eating into every pillar of your government, that is a dangerous thing.”

Over and over, the use of the word termites in an obviously political context has been seen as a very apt and useful metaphor. Where was Chelsea Clinton when Fox News editorialized about her mother’s health right before the 2016 election:

“Before you purchase a house you inspect it for termites, before you purchase a car you look under the hood. Is it too much to ask for a health examination and report of all presidential candidates? I’m no doctor and I truly hope she is healthy but I believe the American people deserve to have Ms. Clinton’s full medical records open for examination.”

The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan has been pilloried for using the termite metaphor with laser accuracy. His extraordinary wisdom and his vast knowledge of world history have made him the most perceptive analyst on today’s racial and religious dynamics that have brought the world to the brink of extinction. When he speaks of this society and its racism using the metaphor of termites, it is best to stop, listen, and then think.

For those who chose to listen that day in Detroit, The Minister went on to describe in its ugly detail the exploitative and damaging nature of the Black–Jewish relationship that began on the slave ships of European Jewish merchants and continued in the Detroit city streets with the Jewish criminal narcotics mob known as the Purple Gang—all of whose crimes infested and ate away at Black life. Significantly, other scholars have made the very same point. University of Sussex Professor Clive Webb, Ph.D, is an expert in the field of Black–Jewish relations and wrote that the Jews traded in socially destructive commodities, such as beer, wine, and liquor. And in so doing, the Jewish merchants “were not so much providing the lifeblood of the black community, as injecting it with poison.”

Now, what insect does that sound like?

By the way, Dr. Webb is still tweeting at https://twitter.com/Clive__Webb.

(Republished from NOI Research Group by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Z-man says:

    Good of you to defend Calypso Louie. The anti Termite term he used had me rofl. Good going Louie.
    Good relevant article but let me point out that Joy Behar is nothing but a two bit comedienne who hit it big on that show, helped by her fellow Jewess, Babwa Walters. Now you may say, ‘wait she’s Italian’ but no that Andrea Doria sailed a long time ago. She is culturally and by injection a Jew. She hates Italian men with a passion (daddy issues) and she has become virulently anti Christian. So no, she’s Italian as much as Whoopie Goldberg. (S*it eating grin)

    • Replies: @Fabian Forge
  2. pensword says:

    As-salaamu ‘alaikum.

    Several years ago, while perusing discussion on the now-defunct Liberty Forum, I came across the comments of one “Methushelah,” a self-professed Israelite who alluded to a Jewish prophecy concerning an eventual coalition between the descendants of Ham (Africans) and Japheth’s European offspring. He appeared quite concerned about the prospects of this.

    I’d be curious to know what Minister Farrakhan thinks about the following statement attributed to our Prophet sallALLAHU ‘alaihi wa sallam:

    “Islam began a stranger and, then, it will return as it began. Then bliss to the strangers!”

    There is good reason to perceive that the return to which the Prophet refers is occurring right here in America, particularly since the remainder of the haddith describes the strangers as “the poor and the immigrants who will be gathered from the ends of the earth,” “those who have moved away from their clans,” brought together to “join Jesus, the son of Mary” (a reference to a union with Christians). The Arabic term for “stranger” is derived from the very same root as that of “westerner,” and given the increased interest in Islam therein, America appears to be fertile ground for an Islamic recrudescence.

    The very rumination of a political alliance between Christian and muslim Americans as a force to overwhelm the enemies of humanity must induce within them a fear far transcending that of night terrors. Insha’ALLAH, Minister Farrakhan can speak to this.

    • Replies: @Mr. Muhammad
  3. Tyrion 2 says:

    Does anyone else notice that these writers throw around a lot of words that sound good despite clearly not knowing what they mean?

    • Troll: Mike P
  4. Anon[155] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    I’m anti-gorillian.

  5. ” monstrous absurdity: “I mean, what is his problem with Jews? The Jews did not own slaves—I don’t know what his issue is. ”

    Even in exile in Babylon jews owned slaves.
    Amy Dockser Marcus, ‘The view from Nebo, How archeology is rewriting the bible and reshaping the Middle East’, Boston, 2000
    But this slavery discussion is complete nonsense,
    Emily Ruete, ‘Herinneringen van een Arabische prinses’, Amsterdam Antwerpen 1995, (Leben im Sultanspalast, Memoiren aus dem 19. Jahrhundert, 1886)
    mentions slavery as quite common.
    The princess ran off with a German to the Netherlands, from Zanzibar, from memory, then under British ‘protection’, and published her story.
    Forgot where is is asserted that jews were specialised in eunuch production.
    One in ten survived the surgery, without anaesthetics, it seems.

  6. ” His careful, scholarly, and historically accurate 1976 study ”
    Not in my opinion, but not his fault, much was not known at the time as
    Shlomo Sand, ‘The Invention of the Jewish People’, London, New York, 2009, 2010 (Tel Aviv, 2008, hebrew)
    shows.
    But it is not simple to reconstruct what happened more than a thousand years ago:
    Kevin Alan Brook, ‘The Jews of Khazaria’, 1999 Northvale

  7. [Koestler's] careful, scholarly, and historically accurate 1976 study found that the white people we think of as Jews—the Netanyahus, the Jonathan Greenblatts, the Alan Dershowitzes and the rest of them—are imposters with no genetic connection to the holy land or holy people of the Bible; they are not even Semites!

    “Netanyahu: I have Sephardic roots as well” (https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4807687,00.html)

  8. How do we ban alcohol? I know how to make it-my father was a brewer of German beers and wines in his spare time.

    Roe vs Wade undoubtedly lowered the crime rate to a degree in the 1990′s when young people born in 1973 reached the 16-25 age when crime usually is at a spike. It is the same reason when gay males move into ghetto districts they suddenly improve-no dependents, both partners working, no pimps, no sex trafficking, no prostitution, no rape, no juvenile crime.

    Adultery? If women could not keep a house or community property in divorces or lost it all if they were at fault you’d see much less cock-hungry cougars cheating on Viagra-dependent husbands.

    Pornography? Takes two willing bodies, a camera and a bed. Jews can no longer make a living in this industry and many are leaving it. It will still continue.

    How do we keep people from being stupid?

    Mexicans are going to supply meth because it sells to white proles for more than tacos. If tomorrow white proles were willing to pay $500 to screw goats then Mexico would export these.

    Chinese will continue to export heroin because working class whites who perhaps are coping with losing their jobs to China will use it.

    See what I mean? If people are stupid, there is little that can be done to keep them from being stupid.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @Reuben Kaspate
  9. wayfarer says:

    Zionist zombies and global trust-fund busybodies, working overtime on self-fulfilling fairy-tales, as they dream of crushing humanity’s heart and soul, once and for all, in the name of their precious and coveted neo-Zionist order (a.k.a. “new world order”).

    Remember and “never forget,” free-will is a crime!

    • Agree: druid
  10. To save other people a quick Google search, the NOI Research Group is the Nation of Islam Research Group. I hadn’t come across this organisation before.

  11. Tyrion 2 says:

    Someone can use Google news to search for “politics” and “termites”. Well done. Now understand the distinction between referring to a people as “termites” and a political movement. The former includes children and those of wildly different views and actions, the latter does not, at least in key regards.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  12. n230099 says:

    I still like ‘coconuts’ and ‘watermelons’.

  13. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    According to this article, “John McCain … [d]uring the 2000 presidential campaign [when] asked by reporters why he continued to use the ugliest of racial slurs when referring to Asians: “I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live…”

    The hyperlinked source does not demonstrate this assertion.

    Can anyone verify or refute it?

  14. Durruti says:

    Finally:

    From an accepted (at UNZ) contributor:

    “Not only does Koestler find the termite to be the most accurate metaphor for society’s decay, but his other book, The Thirteenth Tribe, debunks the claim by the white Caucasian Ashkenazi Jews that they are Jews at all! His careful, scholarly, and historically accurate 1976 study found that the white people we think of as Jews—the Netanyahus, the Jonathan Greenblatts, the Alan Dershowitzes and the rest of them—are imposters with no genetic connection to the holy land or holy people of the Bible; they are not even Semites!”

    Quote from Mr/Mrs NOI Research Group. Hmm! Never heard of this individual.

    In summation:

    I am not an anti-Semite. I like Arabs.

    Jews are not Semitic Peoples from the Mid East. They should keep out! Return to Europe & USA!

    We American Citizens have work to do.

    We must Restore Our Republic (destroyed by MOSSAD & their minions in a hail of gunfire on November 22, 1963). Anniversary of the coup d’état is coming up next week.

  15. Jews never owned Slaves? 60% of the slave trade in the USA was run by the Jews. They made so much from importing Black people that they built the first Jewish Synagogue in the United States in Rhode Island. That used to be a well known fact, taught in all school books.
    I’m glad we abolished slavery, think of all the Black people that would be here now if it hadn’t been stopped.
    I agree with everything The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan says. Women don’t think logically and should stay at home and make babies.

    • Replies: @niteranger
  16. Very well-researched article, and I look forward to Part II. But choosing between a Muslim or a Jewish takeover of America is like choosing to get hit in the head with a rock or a crowbar. I respect the honest integrity of Minister Farrakhan, but Islam is a great theocracy if you’re a big fan of the 13th century. On the other hand, the Jews … I can’t even.

    I sigh for Robert Young’s America.

    • Agree: Justsaying
  17. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Durruti

    And yet practically every Israeli I met had blood relations who’d move there from Iraq, Egypt, Iran, Syria, Yemen etc.

    • Replies: @Durruti
    , @Tyrion 2
  18. @Durruti

    That’s the same thing Helen Thomas said.

    • Replies: @Wade
    , @Durruti
    , @DB Cooper
  19. Durruti says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “And yet practically every Israeli I met had blood relations who’d move there from Iraq, Egypt, Iran, Syria, Yemen etc.”

    The overwhelming majority of Jews in Palestine are not Semites (and have absolutely no right to be there). Additionally, Netenyahoo, and most of his government ministers are invaders who have entered Palestine from Europe & America.

    The ethnic origin of Zionist Land Thieves is EASILY researched. Get the figures & place them on this website.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  20. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Durruti

    You don’t believe that a majority of Jews in Israel are of at least mixed Sephardic/Mizrahi descent?

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @Durruti
  21. @Tyrion 2

    Do the children of termites grow up to be termites?

  22. I glanced through more than half of

    https://noirg.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Ebook-TSRv1.2.HighlightsKeyPoints.20121.pdf

    Alas, as far as I can remember none of the books I now specify said anything, or much, about jews and blacks or slaves.
    I do suppose jews traded in slaves, used slaves, but if they were any worse in this respect than non jews ?
    Even free blacks in the USA held slaves.
    According to the mentioned book Brazilian slave owners were the most cruel ones.
    Jews traded in beer, wine and liquor !
    Fun, what were amfora used for ?
    Robert Harms, Das Sklavenschiff, Eine Reise in die Welt des Sklavenhandels’, München 2007 (The Diligent, New York, 2001)
    Giorgio Marotti, ‘Black Characters in the Brazilian Novel, Afro-American culture & society monograph series CAAS’, 1987 Los Angelos
    Herbert Aptheker, ‘Negro Slave Revolts in the United States 1526 – 1860 ‘, New York 1939
    Melville J. Herskovits, ‘The Myth of the Negro Past’, 1941, 1958, Boston

    • Replies: @bjondo
  23. “Jews trade in liquor”

    So what? Blacks trade in crack. Mexicans trade in every drug. Whites used to trade in speed but now apparently it is heroin pills.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  24. Wade says:
    @Carroll Price

    I hate how the caption reads “Thomas was caught on tape saying Jews should go back to Germany, Poland”.. Nonsense. She wasn’t “caught”. She looked right into the interviewer’s eyes and said it loud and clear.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  25. What is housekeeper or nanny if not a slave. They not forced to be slaves per se.
    But Jewish economic conditions is forcing them to be a slaves. So what is the difference?

    • Replies: @druid
  26. Liza says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    If women could not keep a house or community property in divorces

    Well, now. Suppose that wife was loyal to her husband; had a bunch of children; did all the child care, all the housework; etc. etc. + her husband cheated on her – I can’t think of a reason why she should not be entitled to one-half of the house, even if her husband made all the payments. Is all that work of child bearing and rearing plus domestic labor not worth a thing to the husband? If not, he really should have stayed single.

  27. Mulegino1 says:

    The problem is not so much the ignorant and loudmouthed Jewesses of “The View” as it is that a significant number of American goyim have been dumbed down to the extent that they think that the ridiculous opinions expressed by the former matter at all. “The View” is nothing more than a vapid, saccharine, very Kosher estrogen bomb.

  28. Meghan McCain’s only apparent claim to fame is that her father was the recently deceased Arizona senator John McCain, whose white supremacy she has inherited.

    McCain was a white supremacist? But didn’t he have a black child? :-D

    https://www.thenation.com/article/dirty-tricks-south-carolina-and-john-mccain/

  29. PCR has two brilliant articles that deserve attention.

  30. JLK says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I thought it was a well-written article. There’s no doubt that Farrakhan has crossed the accuracy line a few times, generalizing about Jews as a group as “bloodsuckers” and so forth. On the other hand, he has done a lot of good for his followers, who can be a powerful role model by the way they comport themselves.

    The Minister is a very talented man, as a musician and a speaker. His eulogy of Rosa Parks was Farrakhan at his best. Other black leaders like Jesse Jackson didn’t even come close.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  31. bjondo says:
    @Tyrion 2

    sephardi jew = mostly berber
    mizrahi jew = mostly semite

    100% of yid
    anywhere
    are a
    termite/parasite mix

    sephardi, mizrahi in yid garbage dump
    are a termite/parasite mix

  32. bjondo says:
    @jilles dykstra

    You like to place honey near to termites.

  33. bjondo says:

    Accept NOI research or Yid research?

    NOI every time.

    NOI research searches for truth.

    Yid research hides, destroys truth.

  34. Tyrion 2 says:
    @JLK

    In just the first 2 short paragraphs they’ve misused the words “potent”, “rank”, “deadly” and “age-old”. They picked them for the way they sound, rather than their meaning.

    • Replies: @JLK
  35. Rurik says:

    Very glad to see the NOI here at Unz!

    I remember once watching a video of Minister Farrakhan telling the brazen truth about Jewish supremacist’s nefarious treachery, and being amazed at his honesty and integrity.

    Yes, he has no love for white folks, but so what? That’s his right, just as it’s David Duke’s right not to want to live in a black neighborhood.

    I’ve seen the well-dressed young men standing at corners selling their paper for donations, and I’ve handed the guys a few dollars, told them ‘As-salamu alaykum’ (sometimes to their surprise), but they always politely respond in kind.

    There’s much I like about the NOI message, at least as far as I’ve interpreted it.

    ‘Be a proud man of God- a father to your children, a role model for your sons and a husband to your wife.

    Stop crawling around on your belly begging whitey to feed you. Fuck whitey. We don’t need whitey. We have God, and our faith, and our families and communities and our pride. If we have these things, why do we need to beg whitey for his EBT cards?’

    At least that’s the interpretation that I’ve come away with of NOI message to its faithful. And I think it’s a good one.

    They want a black homeland, and I don’t blame them. I wish them God speed. I’d contribute to the effort. Not because I hate blacks and want to see them separated, but the fact is blacks and whites are separated by intractable genetic differences. It doesn’t mean one is superior to the other, just different. Like lions or tigers. They prefer the company of their own kind. Forcing people who’re vastly different, to live in close quarters with each other, is the pernicious stratagem of the Fiend.

    It amuses the Jewish supremacist to do so. Like forcing dogs to fight, they get a thrill from watching it.

    God bless the NOI, and God speed with your truth telling.

    Salaam

  36. padre says:

    Jews had slaves even in the time of king David, or that doesn’ t count?

  37. JLK says:
    @Tyrion 2

    In just the first 2 short paragraphs they’ve misused the words “potent”, “rank”, “deadly” and “age-old”. They picked them for the way they sound, rather than their meaning.

    Let’s be honest for a minute. Is that really your main objection to the article?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  38. Durruti says:
    @Wade

    If you listened, Helen Thomas said Zionists should go back to Germany, Poland, AND AMERICA.

    The biased Zionist agent interviewers/newscasters – always ‘conveniently’ omit Thomas’ mention of the USA as a destination for Jews – when discussing her views. Later in the interview, Thomas repeats her suggestion of America as a destination for Jews.

    Personal Aside:

    After the war, Joseph Meisner (father of a brother-in-law), who fought as a member of Tito’s Partisans, was offered a choice of one of 3 Passports (Polish, Russian, and American. He could also have gone and helped to colonize Palestine.

    Joe, and I quote, “I was no fool,” chose the American Passport. He knew the difference between Right and Wrong. he loved and supported America, as did my dad, who also loved Belgium (served in Belgian & American Armies).

  39. Durruti says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “You don’t believe that a majority of Jews in Israel are of at least mixed Sephardic/Mizrahi descent?”

    You are so lazy. [No I do not believe what is clearly untrue]. The Zionist leaders, from Netenyahoo, to the rest of his government (as well as their Knesset/Congress – the one in Palestine, not the one in DC), are overwhelmingly European -or European through America.

    Look it up yourself. The overwhelming majority of Zionist land thieves are from Europe, or America (by way of Europe). The children of European Zionists – remain of European origin, AND ARE NOT SEMITES.

    My relatives (mother’s side who reside in Tel Aviv), are German Jewish [much blond hair & blue eyes] (emigrated before WW II). Mother who visited relatives, & spoke some Yiddish, converted & I was raised since childhood as a Christian. Dad could care less, but he was of a Catholic family & mother insisted. Bob Dylan, and Bobby Fisher also converted. I remain an Anarchist, Deist, Patriot – to just One Country.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @druid
  40. Tyrion 2 says:
    @JLK

    Yes, that “style” annoys me. There’s also the other objection I made whereby the writers conflate criticism of a people as a people and criticism of a political movement.

    Finally, they like to say that Jews aren’t Israelites because Ashkenazis are Khazars, implying that all Jews are Ashkenazi. Something not only proven wrong by DNA testing but an argument that renders incoherent their claim that Jews did the slave trade. After all, not many shetl dwellers could possibly have been involved in trading between the Med and the Americas.

    But who can expect writers who don’t know the basic meanings of words to follow their own argument for logical consistency?

  41. Sura 114 – Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of men, The King of men, The God of men, From the evil of the whisperings of the slinking (devil), Who whispers into the hearts of men, From among the jinn and the men.

    The last complete chapter of the Quran, in which satan is described and the power given to satan too. The only power satan has is, “The Power of Whisper”. One cannot underestimate the “The Power of Whisper” such as the crappy and shitty Whisper Power of MSM, which brain washes the minds of millions of mankind on a daily basis.

    This ugly satanic “Power of Whisper” is within us and those around us. The first thing is to learn to control it within ourselves. And, then be on guard what others’ “Whisper” to us.

    • Replies: @druid
  42. Durruti says:
    @Carroll Price

    Helen Thomas was a brilliant and Courageous lady and a Patriot.

    God Bless!

    RIP

    • Agree: Rurik
  43. tyrone says:

    Hey NOI, do some research into Obama and Hilary killing Farrakhan’s good friend Muammar Qaddafi and destroying Libya to boot.

  44. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Durruti

    According to Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics in 2017, some 70% of Jewish Israelis have at least one Mizrahi or Sephardi parent.

    And that rate is probably close to 95% among the young…

  45. anarchyst says:
    @Rurik

    The beginning of the end for black success and empowerment came with the passage of the so-called “civil-rights” acts, which outlawed “freedom of association” and in its place, imposed government-backed and enforced “public accommodation” laws.
    Farrakhan is right. Black empowerment must come from within and cannot be imposed from without or by others–especially government.
    President Lyndon Johnson was an out-and-out (true) racist who HATED blacks. His promotion of the “welfare state” did MORE to destroy blacks than just about any other “scheme”.
    Lyndon Baines Johnson 1963… “These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference… I’ll have them niggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years”.
    Farrakhan would probably consider me a “white devil” despite my agreement with him, but, the truth of his statements and pronouncements ring true…

    • Replies: @Rurik
  46. The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan has been pilloried for using the termite metaphor with laser accuracy. His extraordinary wisdom and his vast knowledge of world history have made him the most perceptive analyst on today’s racial and religious dynamics that have brought the world to the brink of extinction.

    Yes, I also enjoyed this anonymous NOI thing this morning, in the same way I’d enjoy watching a rabid dog limping down the street, foaming at the mouth and snarling. Or maybe in the same unworthy way I’d turn my head to see a train wreck. I especially like the block-phrase honorific sycophantic stuff, such as I’ve quoted above. Nothing cultish about these folks, right?

    What disappointed me was not seeing the instant deluge of horselaugh comments that I thought I’d see by now. It appears that, for many people who want to blame the Jews for everything, absolutely anyone else so blaming them seems perfectly sensible. Even if the “anyone else” spends a lot of time blaming (the rest of) dem ole white debbils, too.

    SMH.

    • Replies: @Acqua
  47. JLK says:
    @Tyrion 2

    There’s also the other objection I made whereby the writers conflate criticism of a people as a people and criticism of a political movement. Finally, they like to say that Jews aren’t Israelites because Ashkenazis are Khazars, implying that all Jews are Ashkenazi. Something not only proven wrong by DNA testing but an argument that renders incoherent their claim that Jews did the slave trade. After all, not many shetl dwellers could possibly have been involved in trading between the Med and the Americas.

    I agree with all of this, but suggest you wait until they actually stray into such areas, here on this website, before posting your critique. Otherwise you are engaging in straw man tactics. Most of us have been wrong on one conclusion or another at one point in our lives. It doesn’t necessarily follow that conclusions or reasoning on other topics are worthless ab initio.

    Over-focusing on form discriminates against the marginalized and the lesser educated. Often it takes a while for even the most talented within such communities to find an effective style and tenor. Let them put their best foot forward here, and see how they do in the crucible of debate.

  48. anonomy says:

    Muslims are communists, ti’s built into their religion, I guess that’s why the left finds them so fascinating, myself I find them nauseating, all of them. Communists are the biggest Christian killers in history if I’m not mistaken. The Christians in the country would be so much safer without having an unthinkable grotesque mental image of Jesus bowing to that.

  49. Rurik says:
    @anarchyst

    Excellent points anarchyst,

    If I hated a people and wanted to destroy their sense of self-respect and their dignity, the thing to do would be to provide for their every need. And turn them into a type of domesticated and servile dependent. Like a pet who’s fed and housed and cleaned up after.

    It’s impossible to have a sense of dignity if that’s your lot in life.

    And then, if I really hated them, I’d also fill their souls with a raging sense of grievance for all the wrongs that ‘Those people over there! – did to them.

    Make them marinate in hate and bile and resentment. Just so long as it keeps them on the plantation.

    But Minister Farrakhan has no use for their plantation, and has not just wandered off it, but stood up and denounced the devil itself. I admire that.

    tyrone:

    Hey NOI, do some research into Obama and Hilary killing Farrakhan’s good friend Muammar Qaddafi and destroying Libya to boot.

    good point!

    I’d love to see the NOI address that.

    • Replies: @redmudhooch
  50. @Liza

    She excels at all those domestic chores because it gives her life a meaning… she thrives on the abuse!

  51. @Jeff Stryker

    An offspring of a German brewer; who would have thunk it. So much for you being an Indian!

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  52. @Rurik

    I love ya (no homo) Rurik but Louie and the whole gang can believe whatever they want… back in Africa. Pack up the show and repatriate themselves so they may once again feed on the sweet nectar of the Sub-Saharan bosom, free of the white man’s evil.

    Because despite whatever his message really is, at the end of the day large groups of blacks are still going to be large groups of blacks, and a 1000 Farrakhans will never be able to reverse the damage done in places like Baltimore and Detroit and being done in dozens of other cities and towns.

    People will state that repatriation is crazy or extreme or impossible, but it’s a better alternative to the coming race war.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  53. annamaria says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “…despite clearly not knowing what they mean?”

    – Tyrion 2, if you do not understand the words, this does into mean that others have the same problem.

  54. @Liza

    Well, now. Suppose that wife was loyal to her husband; had a bunch of children; did all the child care, all the housework; etc. etc. + her husband cheated on her –

    That’s the myth. Want the truth? 80% of divorces are filed by women, without cause, just not haaaaapy. And they’re the cheaters. In one of the women’s mags awhile back, not Cosmo, another, in surveys by said magazines, 70% of the women of that cohort admitted they cheat on Hubby, they’ve had affairs. Good Housekeeping, one of those.

    Which brings me to a remark I made to someone that wound up offended, but too bad, ain’t the first time. Started with Vet’s Day happies and so on. I told him back 50 years, we were defending Mom, apple pie and Chevrolet. Thinking about it for a second, it occurred to me, they can’t use that old saw to convince kids to join these days because fact is, for 80% of them, Mom is a divorced slut, apple pie comes out of a wax paper sleeve from 7-11, and Chevrolet is just a bent shit can from China. All of them unworthy of defense with your life.

    Hence, the money and bonuses. It ain’t worth defending without lots and lots of money.

  55. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Liza

    Traditionally, she would have gotten something like that, though since the public sphere was male it would have been hers through her father or other blood family.

    The biggest difficulty in looking at the past is understanding how people thought. People saw their interests as their family’s interests. Both husband and wife would see the home as theirs and that of their ancestors and descendants, even if only the husband would have legal responsibilities.

    • Replies: @Liza
  56. Robjil says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Gary Webb proved that the CIA was selling crack cocaine to the inner cities. He was suicided for that in 2004. The Saklers are main instigators of the new heroin craze in the US.

    • Agree: Agent76
  57. Liza says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Traditionally, she would have gotten something like that, though since the public sphere was male it would have been hers through her father or other blood family.

    1. And what if the divorcing woman’s father and other male relatives had nothing? You know – from alcoholism, mis-spending, plenty of others to support, just couldn’t make a go of it in life, etc.

    2. What should her husband do with his property in case of divorce if not share it? He could leave it to the church or his girlfriend or a charity? And leave wifey without a cent even though she took the kids with her to raise. Just because a woman (in the olden days or even today) wanted to leave & divorce her husband does not mean she was cheating/lazy/childless or he was a paragon of virture who she was too stupid to appreciate.

    3. I am interested in this topic because my own mother (born 1930) told me that hardworking women whom she knew, with a slew of kids, could get kicked out, c/w the children, by her husband just because he got tired of the bat and wanted young, interesting flesh. My point is that the work traditionally done by women is considerd by lots of men (and all feminists) to be not really work and not deserving of compensation. But they are thrilled when wifey trots off every day to some shitty office to sit in a cubicle because now “she’s earning her keep”. LOL.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Anon
    , @Tyrion 2
  58. @Adol Hintner

    That is correct. At least 40-65% of the slave trade in North and South America were financed, directed, and controlled by Sephardic Jews including the routes of distribution of rum and other spirits which were traded.

    The maritime records are replete with info on Jews which everyone in the West seems to ignore.

    • Replies: @Wally
  59. annamaria says:
    @Robjil

    Saklers: “The Family That Built an Empire of Pain: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/30/the-family-that-built-an-empire-of-pain

    “Mortimer, Raymond, and Richard Sackler launched OxyContin with one of the biggest pharmaceutical marketing campaigns in history… In terms of narcotic firepower, OxyContin is a nuclear weapon. … Its sole active ingredient is oxycodone, a chemical cousin of heroin which is up to twice as powerful as morphine. Few drugs are as dangerous as the opioids. …

    Within five years of its introduction, OxyContin was generating a billion dollars a year. …

    The fact that Purdue is privately held is a major reason that the Sacklers’ connection to OxyContin has remained obscure. A publicly traded company makes periodic disclosures to its shareholders. But Purdue, Barry Meier writes, “was the Sackler family’s private domain. … Forbes estimates that the Sacklers continue to receive some seven hundred million dollars a year from the family companies,

    Purdue gave money to continuing medical education, to state medical boards, to faux grassroots organizations.” According to training materials, Purdue instructed sales representatives to assure doctors—repeatedly and without evidence—that “fewer than one per cent” of patients who took OxyContin became addicted. …

    The truth was that the dangers of OxyContin were intrinsic to the drug—and Purdue knew it. … Even after it became clear that OxyContin was being widely abused, Purdue refused to concede that it posed risks. …

    Given the sometimes fractious nature of the Sackler family, it was striking that they were united in their silence on the subject of OxyContin. These were urbane, expensively educated, presumably well-informed people. Could they conceivably be unaware of the accumulated evidence about the tainted origins of their fortune? Did they simply put it out of mind? “Greed can get people to rationalize pretty bad behavior…”

    — And the Sacklers have been rationalizing their murderous greed for quite some time already.

    • Replies: @Wally
  60. Agent76 says:

    Mar 7, 2015 The Signs of God’s Existence Documentary

    The Signs of God’s Existence is an interesting high quality documentary that explains in an intellectual way why it is logical to believe in God. This documentary gives some good rational answers and food for thought. You can see the full length documentary. Take time to watch it and share it with your friends.

  61. Wally says:
    @niteranger

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin – The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade

    Jew slave ship owners:

    JEWS AND THE SLAVE TRADE : http://wethoughttheywerewhite.weebly.com/jews–the-slave-trade.html

    [MORE]

    African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade, Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders’ ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade

    “African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today.”

  62. Wally says:
    @annamaria

    Cut the uninformed crap, the Sacklers are not to blame.
    facts:
    - Prescriptions for opioids have decreased greatly since 2013.
    - The Oxycontin formula was changed by the company years ago, making it very difficult to inject, as was done previously.
    - Those with prescriptions are NOT the ones over dosing, those that buy drugs on the street are.
    - Yes, Oxycontin has a street value to those who sell their Rx, but that accounts for a small percentage vs. what is alleged in the tabloid press.
    - Most opioid abusers are not actually using Oxycotin, but are using illicit street drugs fentanyl & heroin which are then conflated with Oxycontin because there is now a huge ‘law enforcement’ witch hunt which profits from increased funding for the bogus claims of massive prescription drug abuse.
    - Oxycontin is very beneficial to those with serious pain, yes such people do exist.

    Do you know anyone who wants drugs and cannot find them?
    Anyone can buy a big jug of cheap vodka for ca $10.00, should it be banned?

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  63. annamaria says:

    Why the abusive words and irritation? The provided link has a lot of factual information, indulging the info on the legal procedures against the Sacklers family: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/30/the-family-that-built-an-empire-of-pain

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Wally
  64. Patricus says:
    @Durruti

    Some Jews are descended from middle easterners. Those who never left the middle east and the Sephardic Jews are largely semitic. Admittedly these add up to about a quarter of Jews and the Ashkenazis are dominant.

    What is a Jew anyway? They have their own definitions derived from parentage. The only rational identification is self-identification. I could declare myself a Jew if I wanted to. Traditional Jews might disagree but I could complete every form with my new identity. I could champion Jewish causes and change my last name. Who would care? How much effort would the traditional Jews-expend to expose my charade? I could also call myself a Mormon or Hindu.

  65. @Reuben Kaspate

    His parents arrived in just prior to the Depression and brewed beer during Prohibition. He was a scientist by profession, brewing beer and wine was just one hobby (Its actually a piece of piss to do).

    I’ve been accused of being an Indian, a Jew and a Nazi at various times here. The accusations seem somewhat varied.

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  66. @Liza

    I don’t argue any of that, Liza.

    One disadvantage women have is that they have to pick up the pieces after a divorce and live in the same community. It is harder for women to simply take off to Asia like a man can and simply start anew.

  67. Svigor says:

    Tell me about the White Man’s tricknology.

  68. @Robjil

    I for one am really sick of hearing that poor white proles are hooked on this or that and a new drug is “reaching epidemic proportions”.

    You cannot even buy decent cold medicine anymore since poor whites made crystal meth out of it and now, yet again, we are hearing that a drug is “sweeping across the heartland” (Translation: another Darwin awards-fest).

    Crack cocaine was everywhere in the eighties when I was young. It is just that more blacks experimented with it and became addicted. Curiously, meth never took off in the black ghetto. Bikers tried to push it, but there was no demand.

    I’m weary of white proles and blacks getting wiped out by some new drug epidemic. Next, I suppose, it will be spice.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  69. @Robjil

    In my Phoenix complex in 1998 I recall a pregnant female tweaker about my age then-24-who was still furiously scoring meth during her last month of pregnancy. She gave birth prematurely, in fact.

    I suppose that kid is now 20 and hooked on heroin pills.

  70. ‘…the wicked incarceration policies of her husband William, the 42nd president, who during his two terms in office put more Black men in prison than the combined presidencies of Reagan and Bush1…’

    Maybe, but he had a lot of bad policies as well.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  71. @Tyrion 2

    The Shtetl dwellers were the slave drivers of Poles and Ukrainians. That is what they were brought in to do by Vytautas the Lithuanian from little Khazaria because they would have no sympathy for the peasants, which they called bydlo, or cattle. Know thyself.

  72. Anon[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Liza

    “Traditionally” in the West there was no divorce, only separation, so that situation didn’t arise. (It was different with Jews but here Tyrion2 will know more than I.) When divorce laws came in, and much more when divorce actually became a social reality, there was a fair bit of muddle and mixup, which, not being a lawyer, I won’t attempt to describe. Is it possible that some of the women your mother knew were in common-law marriages? It would also have mattered what state they were in.

    • Replies: @Liza
  73. Liza says:
    @Anon

    I suppose it is possible that some of those women were in common law marriages.

  74. Anon[161] • Disclaimer says:

    So much talk of termites; none of nanothermite :D.

  75. @Colin Wright

    “Wicked incarceration laws”

    You weren’t around in the 80′s when kids could not be tried as adults. Adult felons would go to jail 10 times for the same offense.

    Incarceration and the Three Strikes law solved that. The law was unjust to marijuana dealers and shoplifters but crime went down a bit.

    Clinton was reacting both to career felons like the Polly Klaas child rapist/killer and the crack cocaine epidemic.

    • Replies: @redmudhooch
  76. JLK says:

    In my opinion, too many poor blacks have been incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses. It is a national disgrace.

  77. Robjil says:
    @annamaria

    Thanks Annamaria. Your info on the Sacklers is very interesting and informative. These drug games by our deep state never seems to end. One drug game gone, another one pops up. Gary Webb in the 1990s found that the CIA was selling crack cocaine to the inner cities by the CIA. He was suicided for that in 2004. The US deep state and its friends have no respect for the little people of the US or anywhere on this small planet. Now Sackler and company are at the center of the newest drug game against the little people.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Them Guys
  78. @Z-man

    ROFL indeed. But also a snort for Behar’s line on Jews and slavery. Judah Phillip Benjamin, anyone?

  79. This is awesome. Good to see Unz posting NOI, I think if most here listened to Farrakhan speak they would be surprised at how much they agree with him on. You don’t have to agree with everything he says, you probably don’t agree with everything anyone says. He is brutally honest and has balls. It would be awesome to see the blacks and whites able to discuss the real issues without the (((media))) twisting shit around to serve their own agenda.

    Go and watch some of his videos on youtube, you won’t be disappointed. I think black Americans would be in a lot better shape if they followed Mr. Farrakhan, his followers are very well mannered and disciplined, nothing like a lot of the inner city blacks, that don’t have good role models or good leaders in their lives to teach them right from wrong. Things could be different. Bill Cosby spoke about this not long before the rape allegations started pouring in. Coincidence? Nah. Same thing they did to Michael Jackson when he started getting out of line, they brought in the child molestation claims. There is a pattern when powerful/wealthy blacks start speaking the truth.

    Know what really keeps TPTB up at night? Farrakhan and his followers joining together with David Duke and his followers. The two sides really aren’t that different at all, other than skin color. They know that together we would be unstoppable. Not to be fucked with. That is why they try so hard to turn us against one another.

    Would be awesome to see Duke and Farrakhan get together, shake hands, maybe even run for President-Vice President, too bad the system is rigged to keep good people out. Farrakhan did an interview with Alex Jones before AJ turned. Good stuff. Thanks Mr. Unz, people here need to hear the other side too. If we could stop fighting with each other, both sides could work together to fight the real enemies of America. We’re all not so different. Screw those old dried up propagandists on the view, who watches that crap anymore? Nobody.

  80. @pensword

    Islam started off as a stranger, and then will return in the last days as it began. Peace to the stranger, and peace to the strange ones.Minister Farrakhan taught us about this Hadith years ago. From my understanding of it, is that when Prophet Muhammad ( peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was teaching Islam in Arabia 1400 years ago, the Arabs was so deep a sleep spiritual ( in spiritual darkness) that what he was teaching sounded strange to them. In the last days Islam will return in the same Manner. On July 4 1930 a man whom we believe to be the long awaited Mahdi of they Islamic world began knocking on doors, and teaching black people, a strange new teaching, that we had never heard before. One of the names that the Mahdi used was Wallace. Wallace means stranger.which means to me Master Fard Muhammad was Ware , and new of this Hadith. He taught in Detroit Michigan and gave out 25,000 holy name( Muslim names to black people, who were at the time Christians, that were wearing the names of their former slave masters. He was kicked out of Detroit Michigan. And went to Chicago Illinois. Did you know that the distance from to Detroit to Chicago is the same distance as Mecca to to Medina. The Mason or Shriners ( white people who study Islam and the secret history of black people in secret call there temple I. Detroit Mecca, and their temple in Chicago Medina. Those of us who accepted what Master Fard Muhammad was teaching became strange, or different from they average black person. Elijah Muhammad was and is strange compared to any other black leader, Malcolm X was strange,Muhammad Ali was strange compared to most athletes of his time, and our time. Minister Farrakhan is strange or different, if you compare him to any other black leader in America. Peace to the stranger, and peace to the strange ones. As salaam alaikum

    • Replies: @Garreth Smith
    , @pensword
  81. Robjil says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Freedom of speech is the only way humanity can advance. This website allows something that is so extremely rare on this tiny planet and that is freedom of speech. All ethnic groups have done good and bad things. No ethnic group or persons of an ethnic group should be so protected that no criticism is ever allowed. Everyone is worth something. The people who you look down on fell for the propaganda from our media. Propaganda destroyed their minds. True freedom of speech would uplift them and all of humanity. No topic should be forbidden to be examined and studied freely.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  82. @Robjil

    “Abdul’s Nutmeg”

    When I lived in Detroit the Arab shopkeepers sold one food item that was odd for these ghetto corner stores. Nutmeg.

    No other seasoning at all. Not curry powder. Not onion powder. Just nutmeg. Whole row of it.

    I could not understand why. Did the blacks want to bake cakes around the clock.

    Only years later in college did I find out that eating nutmeg was a cheap high. For $2.00 you could be stoned for about 24 hours.

    Point is that if people want to get high on something, someone will sell it to them. Whether it is rogue elements in the CIA or Arabs selling nutmeg in corner stores in the ghetto.

    People who are stupid, will experiment with the drug and get hooked.

  83. @Jeff Stryker

    Incarceration and the Three Strikes law solved that.

    Throwing people away to rot in prison doesn’t solve the problems in society. Prisons are profitable, more poor people in jail more profit for the system. Doesn’t solve a damn thing.

    If anything it has only added to the problems, now the kids of these people thrown in prison grow up without parents, get thrown into abusive foster homes, the problems remain.

    Its like calling for gun control every time someone gets shot instead of looking at the problems in society/government that actually cause the said shooting.

    The CIA/Mossad/Jew Mob bring in the drugs and weapons and pass them out in the cities. Look deeper.

    You’re a very politically correct guy Jeffro. Get out more. You spend to much time commenting on the web I suspect.

  84. @Robjil

    PROPAGANDA-

    Mel Gibson has criticized Jews and they don’t go somewhere and destroy their life with crack because of him. Just as Farrakhan stated he would boycott Jewish businesses a few Jewish actors said they would not work for Mel Gibson. Fine. If Jews don’t want to watch Mel Gibson films, fine.

    Charles Bronson often used Jeff Goldblum in his early films as a mugger-he would later say this was to avoid the NAACP and I don’t doubt that. If one can believe that a dorky Jew would loiter around NYC alleys to mug tough-looking Polish ex-coal miners with shoulders like a water buffalo than fine. But Jews did not go out and smoke crack because of DEATH WISH.

    Similarly, Sarah Silverman has made a career of bragging about what a whore she is. But Jews are not blaming Irish-Catholics-the second powerful group in Hollywood-of turning little Jewish girls into whores or raising out-of-wedlock birth rates among Jewish teens. I cannot think of a single Jewish woman in Hollywood who was not an open nympho-whore-Winehouse, Silverman, Rosanne Barr, Nina Hartley and other porn stars…the list goes on and on.

    Now poor whites are going to blame Jews for the fact that they’ve discovered a new drug and gotten mindlessly hooked on it now that do-it-yourself meth is harder to make since ephedrine was banned. This is so wearying.

    I honestly don’t know what exactly you mean by propaganda.

    • Replies: @Pheasant
    , @Robjil
  85. @Rurik

    Hey NOI, do some research into Obama and Hilary killing Farrakhan’s good friend Muammar Qaddafi and destroying Libya to boot.

    I’d love to see the NOI address that.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  86. @anonomy

    Except they aren’t: The Western NATO countries’ led by the US-UK-France-Germany-Turkey-Italy-Belgium top modern communists. These countries carried out massive aerial bombings ( WW1 to present ), invasions, naval blockades and economic sanctioning before and after communism had a foothold inside the USSR.

  87. @anonomy

    Communists are the biggest Christian killers in history if I’m not mistaken.

    You should look into the number of Christians killed in Iraq and Syria since the US liberated them.

    You know what Wahhabism is? Takfiris? You know that the US is allied with them? They love killing Christians, they’ve nearly wiped them out 100% in Iraq. These are our allies. Look closer to home. No Communist boogie-man needed. Trump, the Republicans as well as most Democrats love the Saudis, therefore they HATE Christians and wish to exterminate them. Trumps travel ban conveniently left out the Saudis, why is that?
    All Muslims are not the same. But for some reason the US has decided to ally itself with the bad ones that wish to exterminate Christians.

    https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2018/02/19/archbishop-of-erbil-christians-in-iraq-are-ae˜scourged-wounded-but-still-thereae/

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/terrorists-may-have-benefited-from-millions-worth-of-us-aid-for-iraq-syria-report/5659684

    • Replies: @druid
  88. anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:

    NOI is a heretical cult and is not Islamic at all. Things like Farrakhan’s spaceship trips and mad scientist Yakub are some of the more bizarre aspects of the NOI. Pointing at others as being inauthentic is laughable. Malcolm X was murdered by the NOI, a little detail that gets glossed over these days as well as the reasons for his breakaway from that group. Again, not Islam at all in content.

    • Replies: @TA
  89. @redmudhooch

    [Too many rambling, off-topic comments, some of them filled with too much profanity. You really might be happier at a different website.]

    POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND CRIME-A REALITY

    Italian gangsters stay on the street/alive because they have a higher IQ than Hoodrat on average. And the ones that manage to reach middle age like John Gotti generally have IQ’s of 130 or higher.

    Italians/Russians make a better living at crime because they are smarter than ghetto blacks.

    Italians/Russians are responsible for many more homicides. The average mob boss kills 50 people before he is finally “rolled on” by his under boss.

    The black kills one person, tries to sell his cellphone and then the cops catch him. He does not have the money for a hit like Jimmy Hoffa.

    If blacks were as smart as Italians and could rig car bombs like the Philly or Cleveland mafia wars then Compton would look be like Syria. But blacks have not mastered C-4.

    Hispanics are a little smarter with some of the Mestizos being genetically 40% European. So they are a much greater threat in the long run. They have the cartel backing just over the border, whereas the Sicilians were always separated from Italy by the Atlantic Ocean.

    The same goes for serial killers who are mostly white. Dahmer’s IQ was 148-that is like NASA scientist high. Bundy graduated from law school. Manson was once a backup songwriter for the Beach Boys. So they get away with years of it.

    Hoodrats only kill one person before they go to prison. If their IQ was higher, society would be in more trouble.

  90. Pheasant says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    ‘Irish-Catholics-the second powerful group in Hollywood’

    Lol wut?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  91. DB Cooper says:
    @Carroll Price

    That woman that interview Helen Thomas is stupid.

  92. @Pheasant

    IMDb every famous actor or producer or director who is NOT Jewish. Say Reagan. Or John Ford. Or Jimmy Kimmel. Or Mel Gibson.

    Italians are a close third (Tarantino, Coppola, Scorsese).

    This makes sense, of course, because these groups were all in the same communities and population centers at the core of power and money.

    There is also overlap because Jewesses crave the Irish virile stud i.e. Silverman, a Celtic-rod craving nympho.

    With second-generation actors there are many mixed Irish-Jewish lead-Robert Downey, Sean Penn etc. etc.

    • Replies: @JLK
  93. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Liza

    Traditionally (in England) there was of course seperation and, in extremes, divorce.

    1. If your family had nothing, you had nothing. People had nothing sometimes, as they do now.

    2. I’m not saying he shouldn’t share it, or even be forced to, I am just pointing out that people used to have a different perspective on life and themselves. In this case, your legal unit was not you as an individual but your family.

    3. Agreed.

    • Replies: @Anon
  94. Them Guys says:
    @Wally

    Big Medical Insurance companies maybe play a huge secretive role behind all the massive negative msm “news” about Oxycontin. A typical monthly script when filled at drug store costs about, $1250-to-$1400 per month. But compared to the many other lesser pain meds, which are also highly abused. Those lesser meds like codeine mixed with various types over counter pain med concoctions. And Vicodin which is slightly stronger than codeine #3 and #4 are also very highly destructive to your Liver. This was only found out about, during recent, a decade ago or so, research. That was a major reason for inventing a new better pain med that has Zero additives. Hence Oxycontin. It contains only the actual pain med compound with No over counter Asprin or Acetamenaphin(sp?) etc.

    Those over counter additives in all forms lesser pain meds, are added in huge doses of 500-750mgs per pill..And do very little if anything to releave constant moderate to severe pain. But they really wreck Livers. Oxycontin is far safer when Not abused, and is designed for long term use.

    Like Wallys reply stated, Most of the narco problems are due to heroin and china made and exported illegally into usa Fentanyl…..However when it comes to drug abuse. What drug hasn’t been abused on the streets?…Most every type drug that can cause a High feeling has been and still is abused….Funny, Barley if any tv news mentions or complaints about those lesser potent and far cheaper pain meds eh?

    I’d wager it is insurance providers complaint of costs, behind this sudden new huge drug abuse problem, which only recently bacame an almost daily tv news concern reported on so often. Especially considering that the lesser potent meds cost per month is around, $35 -to- $60 Total cost per months script.

    Look at it from a pain sufferer point of view…Why take any lesser drug that either does not work or barely works to deaded pain?…Plus being a time released form Oxycontin slowly distributes its pain controling feature over a span of 12 hrs at a very accurate Low rate. And when taken as prescribed and under Dr. supervision, Oxycontin does Not get a person High. Time release ceases any high or dopy feelings…Yet works very well at pain managment and control.

    So..Oxycontin when NOT abused, is safer, better, can be dose modified every 24 hrs until proper doseage is figured out, and does not create any High feeling. ALSO: A few years ago due to street dope abuse, it was reconfigured as an Abuse Detterant pill form..Even use of carpenters hammer cannot crush it for snorting as done by most abusers. Nor can be crushed to cook and inject as most hard core needle users do.

    So Stop relying on typical MSM propaganda on this issue.

    • Replies: @Wally
  95. Them Guys says:
    @Robjil

    Would you like it better if Pain meds such as Oxycontin, which provides about the best ever so far, pain management relief to an aprox 5 to 10 million Americans in dire need of constant pain relief. Was banned and made unavailable any longer?…What if You one day have say, a car accident not of your fault, and end up with a form of back pain that cannot be fixed via surgery? I’d wager that then you’d have an entire new outlook on the issue. Why deprive so many millions of folks who really do need it, just because a bunch of losers and idiots abuse drugs like pain meds?

    I recall what basically started this big hoopla on tv news and constant congress hearings on it. It was when I happened to tune into a cspan tv episode about some loony woman testifying to such a us congress committee hearing. Her reason to testify was Her 15 year old son Died due to overdosed by injecting Oxycontin pills…When a Pro pain med patient’s congressman asked her to explain the details…She told him how her son before he died, became pals with some other 17 year old school mate. That 17 yr old pal got her son at age 14 yrs old interested in snorting it and later to inject it. She stated her son was injecting the biggest dose pill available. Injecting 80 mg oxy’s at least Twice per day!!….More, and more often, if he could obtain more too!

    When congressman asked “Where and How did a 14 to 15 year old boy get his oxycontin pills from”?……Her answer was…”My Sons 17 yr old pal had a handgun, and got my son to go along with him to various drug stores, and Point the gun at a druggist behind counter and Demand he give them all the Oxycontin Pills he had in store, or if druggist refused he’d be shot dead right then and there…”…..Congressman again asked her…”So where were You and the Father I see next to you at this hearing”?…How does a 14 or 15 year old Boy get so much leeway and lack of parental supervision to become an armed robber and drug injecting abuser?”

    At this point the woman mother got very upset and pissed off, she tried crying, and hand wringing etc…But again congressman stated…1st stated that “Are You aware madam that over 5 million Americans in dire pain depend on oxycontin as a life saver and have said they consider oxycontin to be a God send for pain control?….Then he asked her…So you stated prior the main reason to be here today is to demand we in congress Totally Ban oxycontin? And just tell those 5 million pain sufferers, too bad keep suffering because one woman’s son abused stolen oxy pills and died from doing so?….And on top of it all, you madam claim it is All The pills manufacturer’s fault your son died?…..Sorry but I and I believe most of my fellow congressman here are not in agreement with that.

    That loony tune woman was first lawsuit vs oxy’s Perdue company IIRC, and she was awarded something like $650 Million which later was downsized…All because she failed as a parent to better keep watch on sonny boy, even when she admitted knowing he was doing Armed Robberies at many drug stores on a constant basis to feed his dope abuse injection habit. Then when he’s dead all of a sudden its a pill makers fault….She should not get a single cent, Perdue should counter suit her for lawyers fee costs etc. Blame drug co for her and daddy’s lack as parents and sons idiocy.

    She and her lawsuit are likely a major reason Oxycontin is so costly now, eh. At least her stupid son wont pass on his nor her dna since he’s deader than a door nail.

  96. Them Guys says:

    This article was good. Farrahkan tell’s it as it is mostly. I am no real fan of him, nor of Islam. I consider Both Islam & Talmudic Judaism to be a double whammy huge problem for America. And history proves that often both Jewry & Islam join forces as a combo double whammy effect Vs Christian nations. Right now is a good example with recent news of Israel and Saudi Arabia now best pals.

    No more talk of how all Arabs are Israel’s mortal enemy wishing to push every Jew into the Sea?

    I reckon that scam propaganda wore itself out eh?

    I’d say that the Only real thing that creates more Fear, concern, and abject worry in Jews in general. Those within America anyways, Creates more Fear in Jewry than their often stated worry of seeing a huge white majority become awake and Jewised Up, then going all out Nazi against them. Is a worry that someday soon, African Blacks, who Jew slavers brought into America more so than anybody else, will also awaken and get Jewised Up too. And then Join forces with awake Whites. Which would create a much larger majority Vs Zios and Jewry and probably cause an end to the Dem party. Blacks have been Dem Parties biggest single base of votes. Typically 95% vote dem every time and have the past 50 yrs.

    If both a majority of Whites and Blacks in America joined forces, most everything racial propaganda is based on, and all that Jewdeo HoloHoax propaganda stuff the msm and deep state so rely upon for a continued deep divide, which stifles people and distracts them from seeing the big picture, and Real main problem of Jewry within American govnt and msm media etc…would almost cease to maintain any MoJo effect any longer. It would pose the biggest crises for Jews since 1940 Germany. And Jews know this. Weekly more whiteys and blacks awaken now. Yet no real changes or anything else is being done to halt it. Other than trying to create a bigger soviet cheka style Police State in America. But it won’t fly once that awake combo white and black majority gets fed up enough and acts. It could even end up with Black nationwide severe anger against Jews, with No sizeable numbers of Whites coming to the rescue. High price Gated communities overwhelmed by savages and whitey stays home to view it on tv, while majority of Police go home to protect families. That type fear runs deep just to ponder it for most of Jewry.

    One would think for people who claim and brag of such massively High IQ’s and so much self-choseness among them, that perhaps they’d be smart enough to know and see its high time to quit the BS, and Repent and beg forgiveness…Then fix what they fucked up and a better nation for all can be had. However for dem libs + Jewry to ever admit they were and did wrong? That’ll be the day. Same for neocons and their repub whimps.

    Even if not a single person in America still bought into all their many lies and bs propaganda’s..I doubt Jewry nor the dem libs even then would stop it and act better etc…It is like a mental and dna sickness they harbor deep within. Nation Wreckers, wrecking America.

  97. @Mr. Muhammad

    Elijah Muhammad was and is strange compared to any other black leader, Malcolm X was strange,Muhammad Ali was strange compared to most athletes of his time, and our time. Minister Farrakhan is strange or different, if you compare him to any other black leader in America.

    Salam brother Mr. Muhammad,

    These are some exception leaders you have mentioned above. Every century or less, a leader rises in Islam who renews Islam, thus reviving Islam. There is no doubt the above four leaders were such leaders.

    Renewal is the back bone of Islam, and one such leader was Khomeini, who revived the dead Islam in the Middle East, with women wearing short skirts (almost mini) and having bird nest hair dos.

    Now all over the Middle East men and women are doing hijab, by wearing modest clothing.

  98. Anon[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Before 1857 to get a divorce in England you needed an Act of Parliament. This was not on the radar of the vast majority of people.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Tyrion 2
  99. Anon[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Of course there were some rather bizarre (and extra-legal) exceptions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife_selling_(English_custom)

  100. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anon

    Before 1857 to get a divorce in England you needed an Act of Parliament. This was not on the radar of the vast majority of people.

    Divorce is an unpleasant luxury.

  101. Rurik says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    People will state that repatriation is crazy or extreme or impossible, but it’s a better alternative to the coming race war.

    sins of the fathers, Mike,

    Sins of the fathers.

    Jews may have brought the African slaves to these shores and auctioned them off, but it was greedy white men who bought them, (and put white men out of work when they did). Thereby dooming future generations of Americans to somehow reconcile the untenable situation of having millions of slaves in the so-called Christian nation.

    This ‘Will to Greed’ is happening today, as scumfucks like the Koch brothers position themselves as conservative Christians, but are really motivated by a pathological, insatiable (and indeed infinite) greed. This motivates their obsession with Third World immigration, for a few shekels more. And damn the long term consequences as the next generations have to sort out the ethnic and cultural strife and hostility.

    Today’s immigrants are yesterday’s African slaves. Putting working class white (and black and brown) families out of jobs and suppressing wages. And it’s going on right now, right in front of our faces, with “Christians’ overwhelmingly responsible with their complicity to the Jewish supremacists in every single way.

    How is the child of a working class White family to fare in a nation run by Jewish supremacist Zionists who hate that child’s gut before he’s even born? And whose community will be flush with hostile Third Worlders who also hate and resent him. And if he turns to his community leaders in the Church, and asks why they’re bringing in workers who get Affirmative Action preference over him, and whose culture and customs and language are all alien to him, those Church leaders will damn him for being a “racist”.

    So rather than sending the Africans back, ‘our’ ‘leaders’ in the conservative community, the Christian church, the billionaire activists, the Chamber of Commerce, think tanks and J Street and K Street lobbyists, academia, the GOP, Libertarian Inc. Conservative Inc., Fred Reed, and so many others…

    .. are demanding more and more and unlimited more Third World immigration (modern day cheap wage slaves).

    Or in the case of Fred Reed, that like a rape victim, we simply accept that they’re here to stay, so lay back and ‘enjoy it’, and assimilate to their ways, and blend with them into a morass of coffee colored consumers.

    With a state of affairs like this, I’m more interested in staving off the hoards that will punish working class white children, more than any hope we’re going to send the Africans back to Africa. It simply will never happen.

    And so if you’re a child of middle or working class Whites, the best solution, (other than emigrating), would be separation. And this I consider the only viable solution to those beleaguered and put-upon whites slated for subjugation and ‘blending’.

    >><<

    I was just watching some videos that redmudhooch posted below. I must say, that Minister Farrakhan seems to hate and loath the ZUS government (the Fiend) almost as much as I do.

    I respect that. He infers that the ZUS government is akin to the repressive and oppressive Pharaoh of Egypt, and that like the children of Israel, led by Moses, his flock should rebuff and repudiate and cut ties with this fiendish entity, and find their own way.

    I wish we on the alt-right had a leader as eloquent and passionate as Farrakhan, willing to call out the Jewish supremacists for their serial treachery, and demand that the Fiend stop persecuting our people.

    • Replies: @Wally
  102. That is the second time I have seen the acronym NOI and I don’t have a clue yet what it means.

    • Replies: @Garreth Smith
  103. @EliteCommInc.

    That is the second time I have seen the acronym NOI and I don’t have a clue yet what it means.

    Nation of Islam….

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  104. druid says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    BS! Methinks you are a Russian Jewess who makes excuses!

  105. druid says:
    @Garreth Smith

    Very good and totally agree! The whisperer is also very cagey!!!!

  106. druid says:
    @anonomy

    More ignorance!! Where do you idiots come from?!

  107. druid says:
    @Robjil

    Yup, and these Saklers have become very rich doing so! They managed to convince doctors to prescribe said oxycontin by accusing doctors of not treating pain enough and pushed the myth that these pain meds when used for pain only are not addictive. Hence , massive addiction all over. There’s a documentary about the travails of drug addiction in W. Virginia. Sad! But the
    Saklers made their money and probably paid their dues to Israhell for some settlements. That probably made the money kosher, per some rabbis!

  108. druid says:
    @redmudhooch

    Wahhabism, takfiris, ISIS!!!! A bunch of cucks for the western powers and hardly liked by the vast majority of Muslims!

  109. Ace says:

    Black men put black men in prison.

    • Replies: @bjondo
  110. Wally says:
    @Them Guys

    Indeed, I have occasional vertebrae inflammation problems, can be excruciating.
    Woe is me. Where’s my check? LOL

    For that I am occasionally prescribed ‘Norco’, 5 mg of hydrocodone & acetaminophen. Not exactly heavy hitters.

    At the dosage of hydrocodone that I get, it’s the acetaminophen that is the real danger, to the liver as has been established by facts, as you stated.

    I asked why can’t I get the hydrocodone alone, my doctor said that I would then be taking a narcotic …. all by itself. WTF?

  111. Wally says:
    @annamaria

    Apologies, nothing personal meant.
    It’s just that your link leaves out the vital info. that I posted.

    Of course the Sackler’s are being sued. They have money and lawyers see deep pockets and a media conditioned public (jurors pool).

    It’s a witch hunt.

  112. @Tyrion 2

    It is ‘Shtetl’ – not ‘Shetl’

  113. Wally says:
    @Rurik

    said:
    “Jews may have brought the African slaves to these shores and auctioned them off, but it was greedy white men who bought them, (and put white men out of work when they did). Thereby dooming future generations of Americans to somehow reconcile the untenable situation of having millions of slaves in the so-called Christian nation. ”

    “White men”? LOL

    Statistically you are way, way off.
    Pre-Civil War census data shows that Jews were hugely disproportionate owners of slaves in the south.

    You also ignore the fact that black Africans sold the slaves which made the black slave trade possible in the first place.
    Please read all of my comment #63 in this thread.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  114. Robjil says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Propaganda envelops us the moment we are born. Endless story telling keeps our rulers in power and us little people in check. The Big 6 is the best one of all. It trumps everything. If the US does something bad, our MSM will say oh, it wasn’t like the Big 6. 911 is the newest trick. It is used as a hammer to attack seven nations in the Middle East for Israel’s benefit. The concept of destroying seven nations comes from Deut. 7.1-2. Wesley Clark mentioned this plan. Iraq was attacked on Purim 2003. Iraq’s 1991 war ended on Purim. Libya was attacked on Purim 2011. Will there be another Purim war? If we had a real free press everything would be questioned and examined. The human mind only grows when there are no boundaries. These story telling games by our rulers are destroying the human mind. As an old commercial would say, the mind is a terrible thing to waste. Our MSM does not speak of the concept of deception. Deception has been used by our rulers for a long time. Operation Gladio was a big one in cold war era. Yet the little people are supposed to think that our rulers stopped being deceptive. Many animals are into deception. Squirrels are very good at it. They make believe that they hiding nuts when they see another squirrel or person watching them. Scientists are making robots to copy the deceptive tactics of squirrels.

    Mel Gibson was complaining about Israel’s attack on Lebanon in 2006. Lebanon is one of the seven nations to be destroyed according to the 911 false flag plan. It did not go so good for Israel. Mel should have been celebrated for protesting this barbaric delusion of destroying seven nations. Yet, our “free” press based on BC Old testament fantasies, demonizes Mel and not the concept of destroying seven nations.

    • Agree: Druid
  115. TA says:
    @anonymous

    In fact, the Nation of Islam is the purest Islam which is very nature of the Black man–not a “religion” at all. Malcolm X targeted the very same economic malady as is targeted today by Min. Farrakhan, to wit:

    “For an example of what I am talking about—in every black ghetto, Jews own the major businesses. Every night the owners of those businesses go home with that black community’s money, which helps the ghetto to stay poor. But I doubt that I have ever uttered this absolute truth before an audience without being hotly challenged, and accused by a Jew of anti-Semitism. Why? I will bet that I have told five hundred such challengers that Jews as a group would never watch some other minority systematically siphoning out their community’s resources without doing something about it. I have told them that if I tell the simple truth, it doesn’t mean that I am anti-Semitic; it means merely that I am anti-exploitation.”

    Too much money involved. Jews can avoid answering this zillion-year-old ECONOMIC charge in its American context by demonizing and then eliminating the leading representatives of the historically most exploited population. The Nation of Islam, by openly identifying and then taking on the OBVIOUS oppressors at their very root, have the undying love and respect by the larger Black community–whatever religion they may personally claim. Their understanding of that dynamic is why the commenter is so easily identified as a bearer of the old relics of the FBI’s COINTELPRO op against Black leaders–Malcolm X’s actual murderer.

    • Replies: @JLK
    , @Them Guys
    , @Z-man
  116. @redmudhooch

    The irony is that the cost of this vast incarceration industry is largely borne by predominantly white taxpayers at the expense of valid social programs to their benefit.

    It would be great if Jeff spent more time reading the articles here and less time commenting, I agree.

  117. pensword says:
    @Mr. Muhammad

    As-salaamu ‘alaikum.

    Thank you, Mr. Muhammad, for taking the time and putting forth the effort to respond to me. The Unz Review comments section is typically a no-holds-barred venue that demands thick skin and I’m more than grateful you’ve overlooked the unmannerly crowd to address my question.

    While it is true that the individuals to whom you refer may be perceived as “strange” or unique compared to others, wouldn’t it be even stranger to find white folk, who are typically expected to be lukewarm Christians, agnostics or atheists, embracing Islam? Reading the full hadith at ““The Stranger Returns, we expect the strangers to be comprised not merely of the descendants of Ham, but rather, of people “gathered together from the ends of the earth,” though they will be “few in number.”

    We, the children of Japheth, merit no mention in The Book beyond Genesis. We are not “the lost sheep of the House of Israel” to whom the Good News of the Messenger of the Covenant (a.k.a. Shiloh) was specifically addressed. Yet the Messenger, also alluded to as “that Prophet” ~ whom the priests and Levites clearly distinguished from the Messiah (John 1:21, 1:25) ~ is described as one from whom a message of salvation for ALL humankind would be given. (John 16: 7-14) (Hence, the literal meaning of “gospel”: good news.) Being distinct from the Messiah, this cannot be Jesus (peace be upon him); rather, it refers to none other than the Prophet Muhammad sallALLAHU ‘alaihi wa sallam, who not only affirmed the monotheism of Jesus (Mark 10:18; Luke 18:19), but in his final address, said

    All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; and a white man has no superiority over a black man nor does a black man have any superiority over a white man, except in fear of God and good conduct. Know that every muslim is a brother to every muslim and that the muslims constitute one brotherhood.

    What, if anything, does Minister Farrakhan say about us, those children of Japheth who have found that bliss promised to the strangers in the aforementioned haddith?

  118. There’s one flaw in the logic here: practically all the other references to ‘termites’ use the epithet to describe gentiles.

    Farrakhan was describing Jews. You can abuse gentiles all you like; criticism of Jews is a different matter.

  119. bjondo says:
    @Ace

    Black men put black men in prison.

    Not sure to what you refer
    but
    I have heard such.
    Also
    have heard
    white men put white men in prison
    but
    yid lets yid go free.

    5ds

  120. JLK says:
    @TA

    “For an example of what I am talking about—in every black ghetto, Jews own the major businesses. Every night the owners of those businesses go home with that black community’s money, which helps the ghetto to stay poor.

    If they packed up and left, would the community be better off? Are they stopping blacks from opening their own businesses?

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  121. Them Guys says:
    @TA

    So the purest nature of Black man dates back only 1,450 to 1,500 yrs ago? What was that black nature all about for 10,000 years prior to invention of Islam, when Black man was only in Africa?

    Cannibal’s fits swell, no.

    If you look at Farrakhans orgs full name, note that he is trying to create a Nation within a Nation. Or a sub-nation of blacks only, in a Real actual nation called, America. That is even worse than calling themselves African-Americans….It is trying to create a nation of itself, and what comes next? Perhaps he has wide eyed fantasy dreams of an “almost” Islamic Blacks only nation that can obey no other laws but sharia?…That is equally as bad as Jews with their Talmudic Laws for Jews, and other national laws for goys. Or the Talmudic Rabbi invention they call, Noahide Laws for the Goyim but Not for Jews.

    I agree some of what he promotes could make for a better type negro man perhaps. But when his total of it all is considered, it sounds a lot like a typical leader of a Cult. With the Cult leader and founder always the guy who gets filthy rich in the process. And has a dozen or so inner circle helpers who are given extra cash and perks to remain loyal helper men.

    I also think if he could convince a much larger portion of usa blacks to join up, that it wouldn’t be long before his preaching began to call for race war against evil whiteys. In other words that sage advice from Uncle Joe of, Do Not ever turn your back on Black, would Doubly apply to Farrakhan and crew.

    • Replies: @TA
  122. Them Guys says:
    @JLK

    Sounds a lot like Detroit Riots. After Crazed, Wild Blacks savagely Looted, Wrecked what they cannot Loot, then set Fire to the rest and burned down 1/2 of Detroit’s inner ghetto zones. Soon after smoke cleared, Most Detroit Blacks complained constantly about how Now their stores and gas stations etc.. No longer existed. And how it was so bad for them Coloreds without any place to buy needed goods and gasoline from.

    Yet even decades later, not many new colored owned stores opened. And no sane non-colored folk would even consider or dare to open any new stores in that area. And, who can blame those non colored folk for being so leery after seeing the real true coloreds in action prior, when coloreds at their finest hour did that mass looting and rioting and burning it down event.

    In later times since the 1967-68 Negros in action Riots era, the Ghetto dweller blacks simplified their methods when angry. They passed on typical Lootings and Riots, and traded cans of gasoline & matches in for…Guns!…Then instead of looting and rioting, they just went into whichever stores still found in Detroit, and Robbed them blind, looted the store, and then, shot dead the cashier person and many times also shot dead any potential witness’ who happened to be a customer of the store when it all went down.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @TA
  123. TA says:

    If they packed up and left, would the community be better off?

    Jews or businesses?

    Are they stopping blacks from opening their own businesses?

    Absolutely, positively.

    Forever many [most] whites insist that RACISM is measured solely by the use of the “N-word,” and ignore the much, much, much more insidious institutional means and methods–the architecture–of white supremacy. The trade unions, for instance, had an actual saying “Never let a nigger pick up a tool,” and systematically banned ALL BLACKS from the skilled trades. One can review this record in great detail in _The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews, Vol. 2_, in the chapter on “Jews and the Labor Movement.” Jewish merchants apply this same method in establishing their retail dominance. Are they stopping blacks…? Well, Malcolm X just mentioned this “black ghetto” condition (its accuracy, btw, you don’t dispute), and he was labeled the #1 Anti-Semite in the country. Sound familiar? Jews finance “civil rights” for the SOLE PURPOSE of forcing Black activism through voting and the courts–NOT economics. All those Black movements that do not comply with this are “anti-Semites.” Haven’t you noticed?

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  124. TA says:
    @Them Guys

    So, are you based in Langley or Tel Aviv?

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @pensword
  125. @Them Guys

    Arabs operate a few stores in Detroit. Arabs got along with blacks a bit better than Koreans in Los Angeles.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  126. TA says:
    @Them Guys

    Two quick observations:

    1) Here is a video of Min. Farrakhan’s men stopping looting at a store THEY DON’T OWN!

    2) Here is a fascinating account of how Min. Farrakhan’s men started patrols in a DC project and INSTANTLY stopped the crime and drugs–instantly. Then Jewish leaders–who did not live there–went to congress to eliminate Farrakhan’s men–not to eliminate the criminal drug dealers–but to eliminate Farrakhan’s men. We should ALL ask “Why?” https://noirg.org/articles/how-farrakhan-solved-the-crime-drug-problem/

    Obviously, Farrakhan turns the “looters” into “stoppers”–Whites should WANT to help him.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  127. Z-man says:
    @TA

    In fact, the Nation of Islam is the purest Islam which is very nature of the Black man

    False, as Islam came from Arabia, and grammatically this passage needs correction. But I like ‘Calypso Louie’ for calling out the termites (Grin).

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  128. Them Guys says:
    @TA

    WTF is wrong with You? Why would my posting cause you to ask such a goofy question? Because I do not care much for Farrakhan and his Nation of black “islam” cult? Or because I simply do not like many blacks at all and rather not be around any if possible? Or is it due to I notice how badly Farrakhan bashes my White folks?….It is no big secret that many. many, negroes in America from avg ghetto street clowns to very MSM prominent Blacks have constantly promoted a Race War in America against Whiteys. So I don’t see any reason you asked such a stupid question.

  129. Them Guys says:
    @TA

    Why are you conflating Jews with European White non Jews?..Man you sure sound like a typical younger college student or Recent grad. That has excelled in every stupid course like African Studies, African lezbo underwater basket weaving 101, and all the other such courses they teach today.

    You wrote: ” insidious institutional means and methods–the architecture–of white supremacy.”

    Precicely the typical wording a Dem Lefty college brainwashed young person of today will use. Plus those lefty dem party officials who pander to black votes speak that way also. This ain’t HuffPo website you are posting at.

  130. Them Guys says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Yes Arabs took control of most every party store and gas station from Dearborn to outskirts of Detroit back when I still lived there in 1995. I heard Arabs have since then expanded territories out as far as Plymouth Mich and beyond. Maybe out as far as Howel Mich.

    What those Arabs did was, first they qualify as zero fed tax paid for 5 yrs…Then when times up, sign off store ownership to an Uncle or Cousin…Then go another five yrs of zero tax paid..A huge Racket!

    Plus Arabs rabidly hate negroes with a passion like you never yet saw. Those Arabs would have several Arab family or close pals inside store or gas station 24/7 while open for buis. And at least two or three or more even had fully loaded with 40 rnd magazine AK-47′s or AR-15′s ready for action should any stupid ghetto negro try to rob him. Behind the counter guy also an Arab had his own large caliber handgun too…Plus 1 to 2 inch thick bullet proof glass surrounding entire area.

    Most blacks were smart enough to go elsewhere to rob or steal goods from.

    Yep, I knew many such store owner Arabs. They liked biker guys a lot usually. Maybe due to ghetto blacks do not typically mess with any white bikers, eh. Pacifistic and fearful whitey is more likely game for ghetto antics.

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  131. @Jeff Stryker

    To me, nothing in your writings suggests that you’re an Indian; au contraire, you sound like an American, just as you have claimed. Let this put to end such nonsense!

  132. Them Guys says:
    @TA

    That’s real swell he does that. But I still do not like him nor trust him. He is also as anti whitey as can be. Also America was Founded by Whites and Christian Whites mainly. Not Islam Or Talmudic Judaism. And I consider Both as an enemy within. And if you still need more info? Try reading my reply comments from prior articles etc. You can click on any posters screen name to view every reply ever made here.

  133. RobinG says:
    @Z-man

    IDK what is the “very nature of the Black man,” but perhaps you’re unaware of the differences between NOI and (generic) Islam?

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  134. anon[112] • Disclaimer says:

    “Brother, the best religion is, ‘Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.’ When you look at all of the teachings of Jesus, you can boil it down to this basic principal, ‘Do unto others.

    even better, treat others like they treat you – if they punch you in the nose, punch them right back

  135. anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @Them Guys

    What those Arabs did was, first they qualify as zero fed tax paid for 5 yrs…Then when times up, sign off store ownership to an Uncle or Cousin…Then go another five yrs of zero tax paid..A huge Racket!

    i think they can play the same game hopping back and forth over the Canadian – U.S. border

    what great contributions these immigrants are making to our economy, lol

  136. Them Guys says:
    @RobinG

    Their very nature is the African Jungle and is very Wild. Matters not if they have ever been in Africa. It is in their DNA. Blacks can be observed in every country non African and this can be quickly observed of them. Its just how it is, is all.

  137. pensword says:
    @TA

    So, are you based in Langley or Tel Aviv?

    He’s based where most of his kind are: in his head.

    Imagination is a powerful weapon, but a double-edged sword at that. Not everyone who appears to be an enemy is as such, and you’ve already suggested as much by noting the difference between baby talk and a more “insidious means” of institutional racism.

    But this isn’t about “white supremacy,” it’s about the supremacy of the enemies of humankind, a supremacy in which people ~ white, black or otherwise ~ often and unwittingly play a supporting role. The Prophet sallALLAHU ‘alaihi wa sallam is reported to have said that his people would “follow so closely in the footsteps of those who went before them, they would enter the den of a gecko if led within.” “Those who went before” were the Children of Israel, among whom Scribes and Pharisees labored to conceal the identity of the Prophet and advance The Lie that salvation lies in Israel. Within a few generations of the Prophet’s passing, Arabs themselves had lost knowledge of God, arrogating to themselves a “supremacy” that resulted in similar corruption.

    Any variety of ethnic supremacist ideology is, in the eyes of The One Who Creates all, destined to fail. This isn’t to say that we aren’t allowed to act as “birds of a feather” insofar as preferring the company of those with whom we share an ethnic or communal heritage, but that preference alone won’t help us to come to terms with the “other.” It’s the height of absurdity to imagine that God created these differences among us only for the purpose of perpetual conflict and a worldview excluding folk along ethnic lines is definitively NOT from Him.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @Rurik
  138. Them Guys says:
    @pensword

    Maybe the reason His people, I assume you mean this alibabababaalakuakabar guy speaks of Islamic followers, will follow after those who went before. Was due to the orig head Alibaba honcho that invented Islam, was also Illiterate. And since he was unable to read and write, from what I read in several expose articles, is that he had a good pal that was a Rabbi Jew who could read and write and this was who wrote the Koran or most of it. Those articles also claimed that Islam is actually an invention of those Jew Rabbis as another counter force against Christianity.

    With so much more in common between Jews and Arabs, and between both Talmud and Koran teachings etc…It makes it even more believable. Plus the many times in history past, the Jews connived with Muslims to work as a cohort with Jewry in nation wrecking. Spain is a good example. That 600 year long Muslim hijacking of Christian Spain, never would be possible without much Jewish secret and back door entry, Jewish help for Muslims hijacking Spain. That’s main reason for those inquisitions. It was to root out which Jews were true Christian converts, and which were crypto Jew fake converts. Which pretended to be true Christians on Sundays, but remained secretly a full blown Talmudic Jew the rest of the week. Muslims probably never would have gained control of Spain for 600 yrs without much help from those crypto Jews.

    And now Today the world is seeing it play out again!…All of a sudden, after decades of Jews crying about how every Arab and every Muslims wet dream is to push every Jew alive into the Sea etc…A sudden and unexpected turn around…Jewish Israel and Saudi Arabia are now best Buddies, and Allies! These Jewdeo Wonderments never seem to cease, eh.

    Same goes for flooding EU nations as well as America with hoards of 3rd world Islamics. Jewish Orgs play a huge, maybe biggest role in this nation wrecking attempt too.

    I can see how Jews could think that such 3rd world less intelligent, and living basically as if world is still in 600 ad era Muslims, could be seen as a great potential huge group Jews can so easily Dupe to use like they use Blacks in usa as, as Weapons Vs Whitey and Christianity.

    And Islamic that are still stuck in 600 AD era lifestyles and ways most normal people worldwide will never desire nor accept for their own lives or nations….if they keep trying to convert or force that 600 ad life on those who reject it. Sooner or later it will again end with 600 ad Muslims being pushed back and out…..That Last Pope prior to commie boy Francis current pope, was very correct when at that meeting of minds with Arab and Muslim leaders etc stated that…In All of its 1450 or so years since Islam first became a religion, the main thing it gave the world has been…Wars, Violence, and held back its peoples to remain in backwards 600 ad lives. I am paraphrasing him here. He stated more I cannot now recall of, and IIRC none was good about Islam in general.

    Things like Sharia law and women wearing a black Tent cover head to toe with small Slit for eyes. Just is never going to fly for Americans. And unlike most other nations, if Americas well armed folk ever get forced to accept Islamic creeds and ways…Islam will regret ever trying it here IMHO. Those who want or like it, fine have at it. Just do not force feed it to them what do not. Especially Via the Sword at peoples necks.. That wont work in usa.

    PS: The Only reason I replied to you and wrote about this Islam issue, is due to You invoked your opinion about me and how you consider, “He’s based where most of his kind are: in his head.” in Your reply to poster person TA…..Therefore, now that I have replied here due to that, I am Not going to do any long senseless further debates about Muslim or Islam as I have zero use for it, also I never bothered to research much more of it, and never plan to. As I stated many times prior in postings, I consider Both Talmudic Judaism & Islam to be Mortal Enemy’s of and to, Christianity and European Whites in general. Think as you wish, believe as you wish. As will I.

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    , @pensword
  139. Rurik says:
    @redmudhooch

    OK, so the white bitch made poor, powerless Obama do it (destroy Libya)

    Thanks for posting that.

    If I remember correctly, Minister Farrakhan once played down the current, modern day slavery in the Arab world by saying that their Sub-Sahara African slaves were very, very black. (I wonder if anyone has that video)

    Still, I like the NOI’s messages about personal accountability, faith and dignity. Proud men, strong in their faith, with morals and purpose is what so many black communities need.

    They languish in resentment and rage, under the serial predations of their self-serving leadership. Sharpton and Libya-destroying war criminals like ’38 billion dollars to Israel- Obama.

    (not sure why I posted that here)

  140. Rurik says:
    @Wally

    Statistically you are way, way off.
    Pre-Civil War census data shows that Jews were hugely disproportionate owners of slaves in the south.

    well Wally, if you extrapolate what that means – with Jews as 1% of the population at the time, what you’re implying is that if white men owed 98% of the slaves, and Jews owned 2 or 3%, then we should absolve all the white men, because Jews disproportionately owed more, eh?

    And you missed my point, which is that just as Jews are behaving in the ways they always have, from Spain to Moscow to Weimar to Gaza to Murka- so too are the greedy white dogs.

    Just look at the Chamber of Commerce types sometime. Or the GOP. Or the Koch brothers and their hanger’s one from the Libertarian party and Cato institute and a thousand other organs of White man’s insane and infinite avarice, dooming his nation and posterity to a future of hatred and strife and likely slaughter in the streets, all so they can pocket a few shekels more.

    You also ignore the fact that black Africans sold the slaves which made the black slave trade possible in the first place.

    I ignored it because it had nothing to do with my point.

  141. Rurik says:
    @pensword

    Any variety of ethnic supremacist ideology is, in the eyes of The One Who Creates all, destined to fail.

    Well, that sounds like a rather ironic interpretation of Islam on a thread about the NOI, which if it’s anything, is black ethnocentric. And seems to demonize whites at times.

    It’s the height of absurdity to imagine that God created these differences among us only for the purpose of perpetual conflict and a worldview excluding folk along ethnic lines is definitively NOT from Him.

    But didn’t the Ottoman empire perpetuate relentless aggressive and militant conflict and incursions on its borders with its neighbors for centuries?

    And yet, it seems to me many Muslims still pine for those glorious days of empire and hegemonic Islamic ascendancy, no?

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  142. Rurik says:
    @Them Guys

    In All of its 1450 or so years since Islam first became a religion

    funny how that number is also just about the exact date that the Spanish Inquisition you mention was gearing up for its good works.

    I abhor torture, but if I had Dov Zakheim in my custody for a day, and he refused to answer a few questions, I just wonder what I’d be temped to do to get an honest answer.

    Nothing cruel or unusual, but perhaps ‘enhanced interrogation’ is the phrasing ((they)) use.

    As I stated many times prior in postings, I consider Both Talmudic Judaism & Islam to be Mortal Enemy’s of and to, Christianity and European Whites in general. Think as you wish, believe as you wish. As will I.

    For what it’s worth, I don’t consider Islam per se to be an enemy. It’s a religion that suits some people in many parts of the world. They were an enemy in most of the second millennium, when they would take Christians as slaves and relentlessly invade Christendom’s borders.

    But now I don’t see a nation like Iran or Malaysia or Morocco as a threat. The only Muslims I see on the world’s stage acting like assholes are Saudi Arabia and those quislings to Zion = Egypt and Jordan and Turkey and others. And even they’re no threat to the West, if it were not for massive immigration and ‘refugees’. Like the ones coming from the war on Syria who’re mostly young, single, military age men, leaving their families behind to deal with the orcs of ISIS.

    No, the biggest threat to the West is not Islam or even Talmudic Judaism, because without the rabid and slavish and servile obeisance of the Christian church, none of these other evils would be possible.

    It is the white, European men of the Christian church who make all of these depravations and evils possible, with their eager and prostrate collaboration.

    I don’t know one mainstream Christian leader who will condemn the evils being perpetrated in the holy land, (Christ’s own backyard). As Christians are being run out on a rail, from their ancient Levant communities that lasted centuries in harmony under putative Islamic rule.

    But there is no moral outrage that today’s cowardly Christians won’t countenance out of ‘fear for the Jews’.

    https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/religion/2018/07/13/episcopal-church-same-sex-gay-marriage/761572002/

  143. Robjil says:

    Thomas Merton was a Trappist monk who was against warmongering by the US in Southeast Asia. He was assassinated in 1968 by the US deep state. Since then the church have not been involved in much protests about what our deep state does to the world. The constant child abuse scandals against the Catholic church may have been created to counter any voice coming from Catholic church to protest any policy that the US/Israel does to the world. “Planted” memories are easy to create. No physical evidence is needed or witnesses needed in our US/Israel media world. Notice the recent Catholic Church abuse case against Pennsylvania clergy. Then the Pittsburgh attack suddenly happens. Iran is still on the agenda. So the Catholic Church needs to be silenced. The Protestants have the Scofield – Israel uber alles – Bible. So US/Israel does not need to bother them to much.

    Merton’s assassination:

    https://dissidentvoice.org/2018/04/speaking-the-unspeakable-the-assassination-and-martyrdom-of-thomas-merton/

    Planted memories:

    https://curiosity.com/topics/its-surprisingly-easy-to-plant-false-memories-curiosit

  144. eah says:

    whose white supremacy she has inherited

    I see — why haven’t Blacks turned Liberia into Wakanda yet? — asking for a friend.

    he hated Blacks too: McCain supported the rescinding of Martin Luther King Day;

    Got it — so in an article, one ostensible purpose of which is to point out that criticism of Jews is not necessarily anti-Semitism, people who voice opposition to MLK Day necessarily ‘hate Blacks’.

    Just FYI: most people working in the private sector do not get MLK Day off — it’s just another paid holiday for government employees at the expense of taxpayers — do all of the businesses that don’t observe MLK Day also ‘hate Blacks’?

    Blacks and ‘research’ is a tricky combination.

    • Replies: @TA
  145. pensword says:
    @Rurik

    Well, that sounds like a rather ironic interpretation of Islam on a thread about the NOI, which if it’s anything, is black ethnocentric. And seems to demonize whites at times.

    It’s no “interpretation.” Earlier in this thread, I cited a haddith, an excerpt from the Prophet’s final address which explicitly proves that ethnic supremacist ideology has no place in Islam. Also, this thread isn’t “about the NOI”; it’s supposed to be about the reaction of some overvalued harpies to Minister Farrakhan’s accurate description of those parties who seek to undermine liberty in America. We’ve witnessed posters straying so far from the original topic of discussion, they’re chatting about alimony. “Off-topic” appears to be the norm here.

    Admittedly, I also didn’t discuss the original topic, but rather, solicited Minister Farrakhan’s views about a particular Islamic prophecy and was answered politely by a Mr. Muhammad. Later, I noticed TA, another NOI member, join in the thread and I decided to respond to him. What you call “an ironic interpretation of Islam” is nothing of the kind. It’s fundamentalist orthodox Islam. I’m not sure why this appears “ironic” to you.

    As a muslim American, I’ve been familiar with the NOI for quite some time. I also know that it is possible for such movements to evolve, to shift focus as their leadership determines necessary. The son of Elijah Muhammad himself, who turned to orthodox Islam, is a good example of this, and I have reason to believe the NOI may be primed to make similar changes.

    I see the rhetoric aimed at “white supremacy” differently and, as a descendant of Japheth bearing “fairer” skin, I take no offense, since I’m not the target ~ nor is any “white” person per se, regardless of what he may imagine.

    But didn’t the Ottoman empire perpetuate relentless aggressive and militant conflict and incursions on its borders with its neighbors for centuries?

    It was no more aggressive and militant than the nominally Christian Latin Empire who waged crusades against Byzantium prior to the Ottomans, but let’s be clear about something …

    I make no apologies nor excuses for what any nominal muslim has done that is not in keeping with Islam. Among the many prophecies with which we’ve been left, there is one that unambiguously declares the stage-by-stage degradation of the muslim polity, from the age of the Prophet to a “tyrannical kingdom” that would rise within less than two centuries of the Prophet’s passing. That occurred with the ascension of the Abbasids. Since then, in spite of the fact that Islam still had tremendous influence over an increasing range of territory, the original knowledge that had been brought with the Prophet was lost.

    Which is why some Arabs and their followers rationalized mandates for imperial endeavor while such arguments are anathema to the religion.

    And yet, it seems to me many Muslims still pine for those glorious days of empire and hegemonic Islamic ascendancy, no?

    Even if every nominal muslim did so, they wouldn’t have a leg to stand on when God calls them to account. But I doubt there are that many willing to fight and die for it. Having been among them for as long as I’ve been, I’d say non-muslim Americans and Europeans don’t have much to worry about.

    • Replies: @pensword
    , @Rurik
  146. pensword says:
    @Them Guys

    The Only reason I replied to you and wrote about this Islam issue, is due to You invoked your opinion about me and how you consider, “He’s based where most of his kind are: in his head.”

    And, by and large, you proved it.

    Having read your response, I’m tempted to suggest that you might take it easy on the hooch, which appears to be influencing much of your addle-pated diatribe ~ a rambling screed rife with absurdities, falsehoods and distortions that stand out as such to any who bother to study history. However, I know you could care less about my concern for your mental health and will carry on as you wish. So be it.

    Given your evident abhorrence for Jewish influence, I find it ironic that you place so much implicit trust in a record of history related originally by Jews (a.k.a The Bible), a record upon which most of contemporary Christianity is based. It must require an incredible amount of cognitive dissonance to take that leap of faith, never knowing for certain whether Jesus is really God or you’ve just been bamboozled by a cabal of clever Jews.

    Yet again.

  147. pensword says:
    @pensword

    “That occurred with the ascension of the Abbasids.”

    Should read “accession of the Abbasids.”

  148. Rurik says:
    @pensword

    the NOI, which if it’s anything, is black ethnocentric. And seems to demonize whites at times.

    It’s no “interpretation.” Earlier in this thread, I cited a haddith, an excerpt from the Prophet’s final address which explicitly proves that ethnic supremacist ideology has no place in Islam

    well.. that is my point.

    Islam is supposed to be adamantly non-racialist, and yet the NOI is vehemently racialist.

    I was simply pointing that out.

    Also, this thread isn’t “about the NOI”

    Are we being a bit persnickety perchance?

    What you call “an ironic interpretation of Islam” is nothing of the kind. It’s fundamentalist orthodox Islam. I’m not sure why this appears “ironic” to you.

    What’s ironic is that the fundamentalist orthodox Islam you describe as being non-racialist is not the brand of Islam of the NOI you’re simultaneously defending. That’s what’s ironic.

    I take no offense, since I’m not the target ~ nor is any “white” person per se, regardless of what he may imagine.

    But didn’t the Ottoman empire perpetuate relentless aggressive and militant conflict and incursions on its borders with its neighbors for centuries?

    It was no more aggressive and militant than the nominally Christian Latin Empire who waged crusades against Byzantium prior to the Ottomans,

    two wrongs make a right?

    But I doubt there are that many willing to fight and die for it. Having been among them for as long as I’ve been, I’d say non-muslim Americans and Europeans don’t have much to worry about.

    We’re not worried about Muslims (or anyone else) taking over our communities and even nations by martial conquest. As was done in Kosovo. We’re not at the demographic point where the kind of murderous terror visited upon Serbian farmers and citizens is at hand. Just a few Muslims having temper tantrums and driving trucks into swaths of infidels, at this point.

    No, if the West is going to fall, it won’t be due to Muslims or Africans or Latin Americans with guns and tanks treading over the borders. Rather it will be due to a rot in our spiritual health. A rot brought on by the putative termites, that Minister Farrakhan so eloquently laments.

    I have nothing against Islam, so long as it respects Western borders. Indeed, I feel we in the West could learn something from the Islamic traditions, like a repudiation of usury, a jaundiced eye towards sodomy, and other things. Like protecting your citizens from the predations of foreigners.

    But then something tells me that if it’s a white man saying such things, then there are dishonest scoundrels around that would characterize such a sentiment as “white supremacy”. Alas.

    Salaam.

    • Replies: @pensword
  149. TA says:
    @eah

    McCain + “gooks” is a good indicator of the presence of racism; and enmity toward one race is–historically–transferrable to other “races.” 1st Law of Motion–racism victimizing one race tends to victimize others. Further, if a father hates a race, it is UNLIKELY he will raise his children to “like” that race.

    Though I would have to agree with the Nation of Islam writer of the article, that racism of the Clintonian-incarcerationist kind is far more insidious than the “gook”/ anti-MLK holiday kind.

    • Replies: @eah
  150. eah says:
    @TA

    McCain + “gooks” is a good indicator of the presence of racism

    Except I didn’t comment on McCain or whatever he might have said about Asians — in any case, in-group preference, aka “racism” is normal and healthy — certainly an evolved survival instinct — labeling this natural in-group preference as “racism” in order to morally condemn someone for what is natural, instinctive behavior is what is bizarre.

    Thinking there shouldn’t be a holiday for MLK, or not celebrating MLK Day by offering employees PTO, is not racist.

    • Replies: @anon
  151. pensword says:
    @Rurik

    What’s ironic is that the fundamentalist orthodox Islam you describe as being non-racialist is not the brand of Islam of the NOI you’re simultaneously defending.

    I wasn’t “defending” anything. Your analysis is predicated on the assumption that my presentation of a haddith could be compared against my opinion about NOI convictions. Since I didn’t present any such opinion, there is no “irony.”

    This isn’t being “persnickety” so much as it is being precise.

    I wrote

    As a muslim American, I’ve been familiar with the NOI for quite some time. I also know that it is possible for such movements to evolve, to shift focus as their leadership determines necessary. The son of Elijah Muhammad himself, who turned to orthodox Islam, is a good example of this, and I have reason to believe the NOI may be primed to make similar changes.

    I see the rhetoric aimed at “white supremacy” differently and, as a descendant of Japheth bearing “fairer” skin, I take no offense, since I’m not the target ~ nor is any “white” person per se, regardless of what he may imagine.

    If you ever bother to listen to Minister Farrakhan beyond one-minute sound bites ~ and I’ve listened to far more than the edited clip you provide ~ you’d know that his reference to “whiteness” isn’t skin-deep. It’s about a mentality that he equates with evil. I’m certain that any pale-skinned Christian who strives to live as Jesus (peace be upon him) would NOT earn the description of “devil” by either Minister Farrakhan or his followers. Decent, God-fearing folk whose ancestors happen to be European aren’t the object of his opprobrium. Rather, it would be those responsible for establishing an ethos anathema to the message of Jesus.

    And you obviously know full well who they are in saying

    if the West is going to fall, it won’t be due to Muslims or Africans or Latin Americans with guns and tanks treading over the borders. Rather it will be due to a rot in our spiritual health. A rot brought on by the putative termites, that Minister Farrakhan so eloquently laments.

    You continue

    I have nothing against Islam, so long as it respects Western borders.

    First of all, Islam is not a person, contrary to what Donald Trump might think.

    The Qur’an explicitly forbids the initiation of hostilities and the vast majority of muslims abide by this imperative. Furthermore, muslims are explicitly commanded to pacify and execute false-flag renegades (and they’ve done the majority of work in dealing with Genghis Khan wannabes such as “ISIS”). I know of no other religious text that explicitly commands both.

    something tells me that if it’s a white man saying such things, then there are dishonest scoundrels around that would characterize such a sentiment as “white supremacy”. Alas.

    We really need to spend more time in dialogue. I’m a European-descended, born-and-raised American who has said exactly those things and if some cock-and-bull, slick-tongued con-artist wants to tar me as a “white supremacist” for speaking as such …

    Well, let’s just say I care less about those opinions than I do about my own integrity. As long as I’m walking in the path of Jesus, no Scribe or Pharisee will ever lead me to the fire.

    Wa ‘alaikumus-salaam.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  152. Them Guys says:

    Muslim & walks in Path of Jesus? But Not On same path with Him. Big difference.

  153. Rurik says:
    @pensword

    …being precise.

    I wrote

    As a muslim American, I’ve been familiar with the NOI for quite some time. I also know that it is possible for such movements to evolve, to shift focus as their leadership determines necessary. The son of Elijah Muhammad himself, who turned to orthodox Islam, is a good example of this, and I have reason to believe the NOI may be primed to make similar changes.

    I see the rhetoric aimed at “white supremacy” differently and, as a descendant of Japheth bearing “fairer” skin, I take no offense, since I’m not the target ~ nor is any “white” person per se, regardless of what he may imagine.

    Well, for a person who’s a fan of being precise, it seems to me that your rhetoric is a little oblique.

    Decent, God-fearing folk whose ancestors happen to be European aren’t the object of his opprobrium.

    From what he said, he was condemning white societies for their accomplishments, because they didn’t also raise up blacks and others to parity. Are you suggesting that he’s wrong about that? If so, how?

    You continue

    I have nothing against Islam, so long as it respects Western borders.

    First of all, Islam is not a person, contrary to what Donald Trump might think.

    Yes, I know that. As does Donald Trump. What I obviously meant was that in the past ‘Islam’, (the Ottoman empire iow), did not respect other people’s borders. Now I know that Islam is not the same as the Ottoman empire, but the Ottoman empire was Islamic, no?

    As is the House of Saud, in Saudi Arabia, and yet they too don’t respect the right of the people of Yemen live according to their spiritual truths.

    So it isn’t ‘Islam’ per se that is bombing and starving Yemen to death, but it is an Islamic nation that is doing so. Does one (Islam) have nothing to do with the other (Saudi Arabian behavior)?

    So my point is that I have nothing against Islam in and of itself. However, when the conversation comes to a Western nation’s right and duty to protect its citizen’s way of life, and put limits on how many immigrants or “refugees” can invade a nation, it just seems to me that all too often I hear Muslims demanding that such common sense protections are ‘racist’ or ‘xenophobic’, or some other vile smear, (obviously intended to break down a nation’s health in order to doom it to further invasion – by often hostile foreigners).

    I believe in self-determination for all people. And a people who have lived in a land for centuries, have earned the right to continue to do so, according to their wonts and proclivities.

    So, that means that Zionist Jews have zero right to move to Palestine and transform the place into something that suits them, while ignoring the right of the Palestinians to determine their own future. Just as Swedes have the exact same right to put limits and criteria on who can immigrate into Sweden, (or Germany or England or anywhere else).

    But because the world has gone insane, we’re all supposed to pretend that First World, Western nations have no right to maintain their ethnic composition, any more than Palestinians are entitled to maintain theirs. Rather it’s all termites, all day long. And my problem with Islam, is when their leaders notice that it’s wrong to invade Palestine, and displace the indigenous citizens there, but then somehow they become myopic when it comes to Western nations, and their right to maintain their identities (and cultures and ways of life).

    When Donald Trump, (who I suspect you have an issue or two with), says that we don’t need or want immigrants from the Third World, he’s only saying what’s obvious. But to those with a design to invade the ZUS, (for whatever reasons), Trump’s rhetoric is smeared as ‘racist’. Sometimes by Muslims, and sometimes by termites (or their POC pets).

    We really need to spend more time in dialogue. I’m a European-descended, born-and-raised American who has said exactly those things and if some cock-and-bull, slick-tongued con-artist wants to tar me as a “white supremacist” for speaking as such …

    Well, let’s just say I care less about those opinions than I do about my own integrity.

    It isn’t the opinions that bother me so mush as the dire trends. The stuff of termites like Barbara Spectre, and her genocidal designs for Europa.

    If it were just rhetoric, I’d not waste a moment’s time belaboring these things, as I certainly have more pressing uses for my limited time. But because of the termites and their relentless eating away at the foundations of my culture and nation and indeed, civilization itself – I’m forced to at least try to set the record straight. And attempt to patch one or two of the relentless holes ((they)) drill in the hull of our ship of state / civilization.

    As long as I’m walking in the path of Jesus, no Scribe or Pharisee will ever lead me to the fire.

    If that’s what buoys you, and resonates with your soul, then I care not if you believe in Jesus as God, or Allah or Whomever. It’s enough for me that you’re honest, and participating in good faith. What’s even more important to me, isn’t so much your stated religion, but that you respect certain tenets of civil society. Do no harm, and ‘do unto others… Those are my moral compass points, and I don’t need to read them in a book or scroll or parchment, or be told by a man with a funny hat how to treat my neighbor. I know how, because of how I’d like to be treated.

    So my religion has little to do with official catechisms or hadiths or mitzvahs. All too often these things are subject to interpretation, and all three big religions have justified things like slavery at one time or another, so for me, the religions are only as moral as the people who profess them.

    Some cases in point being the bloodthirsty, stone age savages reigning over Saudi Arabia today, or the genocidal fiends slithering in Israel, or the bovine, cud chewing “Christians” in Europe and the ZUS- who’re bombing and droning and terrorizing entire nations, when they aren’t flat out slaughtering millions of innocents willy-nilly. And all to the blessings of the length and breath of Christendom. For myself, I just don’t see a lot of Godliness in the official, sanctioned main religions, or at least how their operating today. If for no other reason, than by the thunderous silence and woeful dearth of condemnation for these evil wars by the religious leadership.

    (I get to ranting ; )

    Salaam, shalom and God bless.

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  154. pensword says:
    @Rurik

    it seems to me that your rhetoric is a little oblique.

    What appears as such is but a mirror in which many reflections may be seen. Choose from among them what is best for you.

    From what he said, he was condemning white societies for their accomplishments, because they didn’t also raise up blacks and others to parity.

    The mentality he targets doesn’t concern that which genuinely benefits humankind, even if it arises from ostensibly “white” hands. Consider the following description of “two Europes” from the muslim luminary Bediuzzaman Said Nursi (God have mercy on him):

    Europe is two. One follows the sciences which serve justice and right and the industries beneficial for the life of society through the inspiration it has received from true Christianity; this first Europe I am not addressing. I am rather addressing the second corrupt Europe which, through the darkness of the philosophy of Naturalism, supposing the evils of civilization to be its virtues, has driven mankind to vice and misguidance.

    Fomenting fear, mistrust and suspicion among men; advancing war premised upon the same; usurious, predatory lending practices; scorn for the poor and indigent; engagement in and advocacy of libertine debaucheries … these are but a short list of the evils preponderant throughout that “white society” in which Minister Farrakhan was born and raised.

    This is what he correlates with “whiteness,” not skin complexion.

    Now I know that Islam is not the same as the Ottoman empire, but the Ottoman empire was Islamic, no?

    This reminds me of Graeme Wood’s “What ISIS Really Wants” hit-piece, in which he cherry-picked the words of one scholar to buttress the assertion that “ISIS is Islamic. Very Islamic.”

    The problem with describing a muslim’s actions as “Islamic” isn’t really different from that of using the adjective “Christian” to describe what a Christian does. You wouldn’t describe the Crusades as “Christian,” since you don’t believe they were justifiably premised upon what Jesus (peace be upon him) brought. Similarly, if a muslim’s actions are not in accordance with what God has given to us, I would not describe them as “Islamic.”

    Based on the previous information I’ve provided, you can now make your own judgments as to whether any given polity is acting Islamically or otherwise. I’m not here as a defense counsel for members of the terminally collapsed millennial muslim world whose actions will weigh heavily against them in the Scales and I’ve already addressed this sufficiently.

    However, when the conversation comes to a Western nation’s right and duty to protect its citizen’s way of life, and put limits on how many immigrants or “refugees” can invade a nation, it just seems to me that all too often I hear Muslims demanding that such common sense protections are ‘racist’ or ‘xenophobic’, or some other vile smear, (obviously intended to break down a nation’s health in order to doom it to further invasion – by often hostile foreigners).

    All right, let’s put aside the epithets and talk common sense. I appreciate that.

    The white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant Founders of the American republic once entertained the very possibility that a non-Christian might one day attain the office of the presidency. This was the hypothesis upon which they debated “requirements” of citizenship. At the end of the day, the Jeffersonian ideal prevailed, and ever since, it has been established in American law that no religious test may be applied in granting American citizenship. The principle of religious liberty, more than any other factor, is what defines the American way of life.

    So, no … this isn’t an exclusively “Christian” country, nor has it been so except to the extent that a preponderance of Christians have shaped it in a manner that is premised upon Christianity. However eroded since the 1878 Reynolds decision, American law allows for others ~ be they atheists, agnostics, Christians, Jews, or otherwise ~ to live, by and large, in accordance with their convictions. When one talks about an American “way of life” as if it constitutes a monolithic culture or religion that must prevent those “outside the fold” from undermining it, he’s ironically undermined the very principle that defines America, transforming himself into something resembling a Pharisee who wants to deprive the goyim of what he himself enjoys.

    Oh, I understand the conundrum of allowing into America those who actually do seek to undermine this principle, yet this will never be determined by a test of religion or ethnicity. This is precisely the advantage that our common enemy ~ one long-settled in this country ~ has exploited, and they, more than any other party, have advanced an agenda threatening not only religious liberty, but liberty in general. Want to defeat that agenda? Then you have to be even more vigilant and self-sacrificing than the enemy, unflagging in your advocacy of that principle that has defined this country from its inception.

    Anti-immigration demagoguery is a distraction, a charlatain’s ruse played out to instill fear in an easily manipulated populace. Meanwhile, we continue to grease the wheels of the almighty war machine, not to mention the palms of those who engineer it. As such, we produce refugees and then complain when they seek asylum. Where is God’s religion in that?

    Donald Trump is not someone with whom I “have issues” any more than I “had issues” with his predecessors, whose only substantive difference from him appears to be largely stylistic. It’s all legerdemain, Rurik. There isn’t going to be a wall, nor a muslim ban, nor a proliferation of now-antiquated manufacturing jobs to save the working class. Just pray there won’t be a 9/11 v. 2.0, the only means by which Americans increasingly skeptical of their government would once more suspend their faculty of reason to march patriotically into yet another Near Eastern abyss, the carnage, detritus and debt of which would compound exponentially for the unforeseeable future.

    I enjoyed this:

    If that’s what buoys you, and resonates with your soul, then I care not if you believe in Jesus as God, or Allah or Whomever. It’s enough for me that you’re honest, and participating in good faith. What’s even more important to me, isn’t so much your stated religion, but that you respect certain tenets of civil society. Do no harm, and ‘do unto others… Those are my moral compass points, and I don’t need to read them in a book or scroll or parchment, or be told by a man with a funny hat how to treat my neighbor. I know how, because of how I’d like to be treated.

    Spoken like a true American.

    Happy Thanksgiving and peace.

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  155. anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah

    in any case, in-group preference, aka “racism” is normal and healthy

    it is

  156. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:

    I hope that people know that the top Jewish groups (AIPAC, ADL, AJC etc.) have long been against any recognition of the Christian Armenian Genocide committed by Turkey.

    Those groups were hired, in effect, by Turkey to do its dirty work, at Israel’s insistence.

    A couple of these Jewish groups have recently – after many decades of pressure – said that the Armenian Genocide did occur.

    But their record is one of insincerity. Don’t believe them.

    I also hope you know that some Jews are jealous that the Armenian Genocide (1915 to 1923) occurred BEFORE the Holocaust. Those Jews want to own “genocide”, you see.

    I am not referring to all Jewish groups or all Jews, just many of the top level ones.

  157. Rurik says:
    @pensword

    When one talks about an American “way of life” as if it constitutes a monolithic culture or religion that must prevent those “outside the fold” from undermining it, he’s ironically undermined the very principle that defines America, transforming himself into something resembling a Pharisee who wants to deprive the goyim of what he himself enjoys.

    Oh, I understand the conundrum of allowing into America those who actually do seek to undermine this principle, yet this will never be determined by a test of religion or ethnicity. This is precisely the advantage that our common enemy ~ one long-settled in this country ~ has exploited, and they, more than any other party, have advanced an agenda threatening not only religious liberty, but liberty in general. Want to defeat that agenda? Then you have to be even more vigilant and self-sacrificing than the enemy, unflagging in your advocacy of that principle that has defined this country from its inception.

    So.. the only way to wrest back control of America from the Zionists – is to advocate for unlimited Muslim (and presumably every other kind) of immigration?

    Peace

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