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The Sailer Strategy achieved an unnoticed triumph in Georgia’s Gwinnett County last week, even though the Stupid Party ran away from it as usual. The Sailer Strategy emphasizes the importance of white voters, but in this case, significantly, Gwinnett Asians and Hispanics voted with whites—apparently vindicating another Steve Sailer theory: that black and non-black minorities are not a natural alliance.

White voters turned out in sufficient numbers for a special election to defeat a plan to connect the county with Atlanta’s MARTA, the bus and light rail system hilariously (if Deplorably) known as Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta. Thus did the once-white county defeat MARTA for the third time. [Gwinnett County Voters Oppose Plan For MARTA Expansion, The Associated Press, March 20, 2019]

Fifty-four percent of voters opposed the measure. Polling data suggested that whites killed it with help from Hispanics and Asians:

About 62% of whites and 57% of Latinos and Asians were opposed, while 62% of African Americans supported it. Opposition increased with age, with 45% of 18- to 39-year-olds against compared to 54% of residents 65 and over against.

[After decades of resistance, Atlanta’s booming suburbs face a historic vote on public transit, by Jennie Jarvie, Los Angeles Times, March 18, 2019]

Of course, Hispanics and Asians won’t catch any heat for the defeat. They’re People of Color!

Just prior to the election, “older white voters” became the villains because they were turning out in huge numbers in early voting:

“If you look at the demographics of who voted,” said Brian Robinson, a spokesman for Go Gwinnett, “you would assume that there’s a slight ‘no’ advantage right now.

“A lot of these older white voters… in the polling, they’re the least likely to be supportive. We know that,” Robinson said.

[MARTA backers sweat Gwinnett vote: They seek younger non-white voters Tuesday, by Doug Richards, 11 Alive, March 15, 2019]

MARTA expansion enthusiasts said likewise in 1990 when “70 percent of Gwinnett County voters defeated another proposal to join MARTA,” as CityLab explained it before Tuesday’s vote. The debate back then “featured citizens and elected officials airing yet more hideous views on race,” the website complained:

If you’re looking for prime examples of how white suburbanites employ the “crime train” narrative to advance the idea that public transportation is a conduit of urban dysfunction, you’ll find plenty here. “That place has a reputation for murder and rape—the wrong people,” one man said at a packed hearing in a high school auditorium, referring to the state capital. “We don’t need ‘em, we don’t want ‘em.”

[Atlanta’s Big Transit Vote Is a Referendum on Race, by Laura Bliss, March 15, 2019]

Of course, CityLab’s Bliss did not ask whether those “hideous views on race” had any merit, or whether Atlanta deserved “a reputation for murder and rape.” The scare quotes were enough. Black crime is an irrational racist fantasy.

More than three years before the vote in 1990, MARTA backers began depicting whites as villains for trying to protect their lives and property. The white MARTA Chairman, J. David Chestnut, said the expansion was “being held hostage to race,” and that “whites in the prosperous suburbs of Cobb and Gwinnett Counties fear that Marta’s sleek trains and buses will bring blacks and crime”. [Racial Roadblock Seen In Atlanta Transit System, by William Schmidt, The New York Times, July 22, 1987]

But back to the future, with whites now in the minority in Gwinnet. Did the Georgia Republican Establishment serve as their advocate in the MARTA debate?

Nope!

“Sheriff Butch Conway and District Attorney Danny Porter, both of whom have been in office since the 1990s,” the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported, “join former Gov. Nathan Deal as high-profile Republicans who have now urged Gwinnett residents to vote yes during the March 19 special election”. [Gwinnett’s Sheriff and DA Both Republicans, Endorse MARTA Referendum, by Tyler Estep, March 5, 2019]

Not to be outdone, and probably revealing the source of GOP Establishment enthusiasm, Dan Kaufman, president of the Gwinnett Chamber of Commerce argued that “MARTA is the key to our future.” The chamber, he said, is “four-square behind” it. [Gwinnett Chamber leaders endorse passage of county’s MARTA referendum, by Curt Yeomans, Gwinnett Daily Post, January 22, 2019]

But Gwinnett County whites, along with some Hispanics and Asians, obviously ignored their supposed leaders:

The initiative failed, with 54 percent of voters opposed and 46 percent in favor. Opposition was strongest in the farther-out reaches of the county and among older white voters.

Supporters tried to overcome the resistance in more conservative neighborhoods by focusing on get-out-the-vote efforts in areas seen as friendlier to the MARTA expansion. In the end, though, turnout was strongest in the outlying areas.

[Suburban Atlanta Voters Block Transit Expansion, By Daniel C. Vock, Governing.com, March 20, 2019]

But is this victory is the “last gasp” of the county’s whites given The Great Replacement—the demographic disaster for whites in Georgia and elsewhere.?

The Great Replacement is a “racist theory,” we are told.

But tell that to Peach State Leftists who openly and gloatingly discuss it, not least Stacey Abrams, the nearly-victorious black Leftist who ran for governor in 2018. Abrams nearly flipped Georgia blue, losing by less than 55,000 votes to Republican Brian Kemp. Kemp pulled just 50.2 percent of the vote. VDARE.com has been almost alone in showing that Georgia is on the verge of going the route of California—out of reach for any Republican.

Georgians, the exit polls showed, are not colorblind. A CNN survey reported that 74 percent of whites voted for Kemp and 84 percent of non-whites voted for Abrams. [CNN 2018 Exit Polls, Georgia]

Now, chew on this:

In January 2001, Georgia’s electorate was 72 percent white and 26 percent black, while Hispanics made up less than two-tenths of 1 percent, according to data compiled by the secretary of state. As of Aug. 1, those numbers had changed dramatically.

Blacks now make up 30 percent of active registered voters while whites are at 60 percent. Hispanics make up nearly 2 percent of the electorate after seeing their registration numbers increase from just 933 in 2011 to 85,000 as of Aug. 1.

[Shifting Population could help Democrats in Georgia, by Aaron Gould Sheinin, Atlanta Journal Constitution, September 2, 2012]

In early 2019, Abrams even pledged to support non-citizen voting in local elections:

Georgia [is] changing fairly dramatically and very quickly. And I could see that there was a pathway for Democrats to surge and to start to reclaim more power in the state. I believe that we are a purple state. I like to say we’re blue and just a little confused. But the notion being that, as we continue to change demographically, our politics are gonna keep changing

Stacey Abrams | Firing Line with Margaret Hoover, PBS, January 11, 2019

Consider how quickly the white demographics in Georgia has collapsed. In 1990—when Gwinnett’s white voters defeated the “crime train” the second time—the state was 70.1 percent white. Now, it’s just 53.9 percent white. By 2033, the state is projected to be majority-minority.

That’s just fine, by the way, with Abrams booster Michelle Goldberg of The New York Times, who wanted Abrams to show “white nationalists what they fear most. Show them they’re being replaced”. [We Can Replace Them, October 29, 2018]

In 1980, Gwinnett was 96.6 percent white. In 1990, it was 89 percent white. But by 2000, whites had dwindled to 67.6 percent, and by 2010, were 44.8 percent. Last year, when Kemp squeaked by Abrams, the county was just 38.2 percent white.

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For the GOP, that means absolute irrelevancy—again, like California—as Abrams 2018 vote total in Gwinnett shows: 56.6 percent. [Georgia Election Results, NYT, January 28, 2018] Just four year earlier, Republican incumbent Gov. Nathan Deal won 54 percent. [Georgia Election Results, NYT, January 28, 2018] Some of Abrams’ backing, by the way, had to have come from the same Hispanics and Asians who helped vote down the MARTA expansion.

In 2016, Gwinnett went for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, 50.2 percent to 44.4, the first time the county went Democrat since George’s native son Jimmy Carter won 60 percent of the vote in 1976. Four years later, Ronald Reagan carried the county with 52 percent.

But then came The Great Replacement.

In November 2016, Abrams’ narrow loss aside, Democrats crushed Republicans in Gwinnett’s local and state contests. Democrats not only took seats from the incumbent GOP solicitor and two county commissioners, but also flipped two seats in the state Senate and five seat in the House. Democrats have 17-8 majority in the county’s delegation in the state Capitol. [Democrats big election showing highlights Gwinnett’s shifting politics, by Curt Yeomans, Gwinnett Daily Post, November 10, 2018]

No wonder Rep. Brenda Lopez, D-Norcross, confidently asserted the “hard fact that Gwinnett is blue, period.”

Gwinnett’s vote on MARTA shows that, through superior mobilization and motivation, whites can still determine elections even after they are in a minority—something also seen in Jair Bolsonaro’s 2018 election in Brazil.

But nevertheless the rising tide of color in Gwinnett County—The Great Replacement across Georgia—is remorselessly killing the Republican Party, which is too busy bragging about its colorblindness to see.

Problem is, the GOP won’t be the only casualty. So will Georgia’s whites a.k.a. Americans.

Paul Kersey[Email him] is the author of the blog SBPDL, and has published the books Opiate of America: College Football in Black and White and Second City Confidential: The Black Experience in Chicagoland. His latest book is The Tragic City: Birmingham 1963-2013.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. These results show the value in votor turnout. If only 38% white Gwinnett County voted 54% against the MARTA expansion, then it couldn’t have been the Hispanics and Asians alone, but a much higher voter turnout, that provided this victory.

    As far as the voter’s reasoning, besides not wanting the criminals to be able to easily come out to them, a difference from 1990 is also that downtowns are not really where all the jobs are anymore in American cities. That’s what all the beltways are about. Many have to commute for hours to get from one residential sector in the exurbs to another area around the city rim for a job at a plant or warehouse or whatever. Do they really need that train for that occasional trip to downtown Atlanta for cultural enrichment? (Oh, they’ll get enriched alright, but not the way the MARTA boosters are advertising it!)

    Where are you going to run to next, Gwinnett County deplorables? Whatever changes, the real estate agents and mortgage bankers just LUV LUV LUV this kind of thing. Mo churn, mo money.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  2. AWM says:

    After having lived in Georgia for almost 20 years, I can assure you Georgia voters aren’t stupid, at least not some of them.

    • Replies: @Archie Bunker
  3. @AWM

    At least 49 percent are stupid, check governor race last fall

    • Agree: AWM
    • Replies: @AWM
  4. AWM says:
    @Archie Bunker

    Archie, that’s the 47% plus the 2% who really are stupid, damn stupid idiots actually, those folks would vote for Michael Moore! Add in the massive Democrats Vote Fraud and you could almost get Al Frankenstein re-elected. However, Stacey Abrams was a whale too far.

  5. Buck says:

    Today’s Gwinnett is a typically American exurb mess. It has sprawling housing developments and countless shopping centers. It has distribution centers and enormous apartment complexes. All of these are connected by a labyrinth of highways and back roads. There is absolutely no way mass transit could hope to serve 5% of the county’s transportation needs. Only a central planning religionists could ever see public transit saving this cesspool.

    Four main influences are driving demographic change in Gwinnett. First, ironically, is gentrification. Atlanta neighborhoods are cleaning up so more whites are moving back into the city. This is pushing black renters out to the suburbs and exurbs. Clayton county has seen the worst of it but Gwinnett and Cobb are also getting tens of thousands of blacks priced out of their former Atlanta ghettos. You see the same phenomena in D.C. and it’s surrounding counties. Second, blacks are returning to Atlanta from the northern cities in a reversal of the great migration a century ago. But they can’t afford Atlanta proper so move to the surrounding counties. Thirdly, you have mass immigration. Indians, Thai, Koreans, Africans, every kind of Latino you-name-it are moving in great numbers to Gwinnett. Half the signs are in a foreign language.

    Which all leads to the fourth factor: white flight. Crime rates are skyrocketing, schools are failing. Whites used to move to Gwinnett for the schools! Whites either move back into Atlanta and send their kids to private school or move further out into the country. Many white couples raised families in Gwinnett in the 80’s and 90’s and are now retiring to the coast or mountains, away from diversity.

    I do feel sorry for the remaining whites in the Atlanta suburbs and exurbs. They are fighting a rearguard action.

  6. KenH says:

    But then came The Great Replacement.

    And Donald Trump wants to accelerate The Great Replacement by allowing legal immigration in “the largest numbers ever”. Trump was our last chance and he’s proving that voting is an exercise in futility for white people who don’t hate themselves.

    Gwinnett’s vote on MARTA shows that, through superior mobilization and motivation, whites can still determine elections even after they are in a minority—something also seen in Jair Bolsonaro’s 2018 election in Brazil.

    Bolsonaro appears to be the real thing unlike Trump the tweeter. Whites could rule the roost at least until 2028 if we would block vote at 70% like every other group instead of the typical 59-60% nationally.

  7. Georgia GOP could try pandering to poor and middle class whites, that might get them out to vote?
    But they won’t, GOP as well as most Democrats only pander to the rich, the business class, their donors, AIPAC, etc.. they couldn’t care less about average Joe whites. This is why they will continue to lose. Raising taxes on poor and middle class, while cutting taxes for the rich, giving them more and more subsidies while cutting services to middle class and poor is a sure fire way to keep voters at home.

    This is the problem with capitalism. It not only encourages but requires greed, politicians make dumb decisions for short term gains, theres never enough. Not only do they want more and more and more, but they want more in a finite world that simply can’t keep producing more. That means that more for them can only come from less for everyone else. That’s why the middle class is being hollowed out and giving up on voting for these sellouts.

    I lived in Atlanta for 7 years, rode Marta a lot, never had any problems. Never had any problems anywhere in Atlanta, if you’re smart you know where not to go at night for sure. Its not as bad as some make it out to be. Things were a lot better before the crack and gang epidemic. I really don’t think its as much a black problem as it is a society problem. I grew up with a lot of blacks raised in a good homes, no different than whites raised right.

    All of these problems could be fixed over time if they were interested in fixing them. They’re not. Keeping people poor, uneducated, hooked on drugs is a very profitable business to many.

    • Agree: Lockean Proviso
    • Replies: @michigan66
  8. Despite considerable expansion of the Washington DC Metro system, there is still no Metro stop in Georgetown.

  9. Thomm says:

    The adaptations are already in place.

    Hispanics are considered ‘white’ on the official US Census website (enabling them to say that California is 72% white, when in fact it is only 37% non-Hispanic white).

    Asians are considered ‘white’ by Ivy-League admissions processes and entities trying to extort from the tech industry by claiming that tech companies don’t have ‘people of color’ (when in fact even whites are underrepresented due to the huge representation of Asians).

    • Replies: @Endgame Napoleon
  10. Very good idea. African American is too long anyway.
    So lets call them just Africans.

  11. Oh no. Now trains are the death of the universe?!:-0

    You guys are just incredible.

  12. Kersey you talk 95 percent about black vs white even tho 95 percent of the non white growth is not from blacks is GA. Honestly if the Reps in GA dont want the state to be dominated by a Black controlled Democrat party then they would be smart to switch over to the Lousiana top two system. That would make blacks politically weaker because they would be more likely to vote for a fringe black nationalist candidate that would turn off Hispanics and asians. Republicans need to do what Lee Atwater did but with a message to the Hispanic and Asian community. That is more likely to work in GA then the salior strategy

    • Replies: @Randy the Auditor
  13. eah says:

  14. bucky says:

    The reason Cali was lost to the GOP was Pete Wilson’s anti-hispanic politics. As this article notes, Hispanics voted with whites on this issue. This is why all of this anti-hispanic fear-mongering is bad for the GOP.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    , @KenH
  15. Did I miss something? My second, if not my first, question would be about the economics as they would affect Gwinnett homeowners. What part of the cost and how much would they have to to bear for the MARTA extension? And how would it have affected their property values? (Was there a scare campaign about property prices?).

    • Troll: apollonian
  16. Cowboy says:

    “whites can still determine elections even after they are in a minority—something also seen in Jair Bolsonaro’s 2018 election in Brazil.”

    The lighter shades of dark skinned people realize that skin color is highly correlated with high propensity for violence and low intelligence levels. They also have lived closer to the Black Borg communities. They may not know what happened in Zimbabwe or South Africa, but they do know that they don’t want their neighborhoods gettoized and they don’t want their children being beaten up by violent sheboons and gibsmedat’s.

    But they are not voting for white values like merit, honesty and hard work. Instead they are voting to raise their own caste higher in the judeo-bolshevic pyramid of privilege.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  17. Laughing. Perfect. I was biting my tongue on this issue.

    Perfect case on point as to how power color identity politics has worked for most of the country’s history.

    You get the dominant population to disparage the least liked. Then make all manner of commentary about how much better life would be without them, promoting any other subsequent power hungry groups — who want to be on the in crowd incite as much emotional mayhem as possible, declare victory and then proceed to gloat at the same time you complain about identity politics.

    Hispanics and Asians voting with whites on anything that will give them the upper hand to the inside route.

    Surprising.

    • Replies: @bomag
  18. bomag says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    …disparage the least liked

    Maybe for good reason.

  19. Agent76 says:

    *”If you rely on political factions to promote men to office, the people will work to develop instrumental relationships and will not seek to be useful with regard to the law. Thus, a ruler who mistakes reputation for ability when assigning offices will see his state fall into disorder.” Han Fei*

  20. Corvinus says:

    “The Sailer Strategy emphasizes the importance of white voters…”

    Actually, that strategy is directly taken from Nixon’s Southern Strategy. The late, legendarily brutal campaign consultant Lee Atwater explains how Republicans can win the vote of racists without sounding racist themselves:

    You start out in 1954 by saying, “N—-, n—-, n—–.” By 1968 you can’t say “n—-”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N—-, n—–.”

    So let us please stop with giving Sailer credit on this matter. Besides, the key to any election are the normies, who make their own decisions about race and politics.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Jim in Jersey
  21. Corvinus says:
    @Cowboy

    “The lighter shades of dark skinned people realize that skin color is highly correlated with high propensity for violence and low intelligence levels.”

    Nativists said the same thing about the darker skinned Eastern and Southern Europeans.

    • Replies: @Issac
    , @Anon
  22. Issac says:
    @Corvinus

    And they were correct.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  23. Laughing.

    “Maybe for good reason.”

    Sure they refuse to work for less than whites. Expect access and fair treatment in all things regarding their citizenship.

    I think you suggest that blacks are a nuisance because the policies designed to disfranchise them, including the criminal justice system has failed to accomplish the task. And a few conscience driven whites, who done the tangible research on employment, criminal justice, financial access, etc. get just how consequential those practices have been.

    I am sure however, that we can find more blacks willing to sell their fellows down the proverbial tube as the replacement gambit finds its way into the mainstream ethos and influential intellectual circles of the christian misapplied “good samaritan” guilt trip. Anyone who says the south is dead just has no idea.

    We may even get slavery back.

    Laugh.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  24. Anon[753] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    “The lighter shades of dark skinned people realize that skin color is highly correlated with high propensity for violence and low intelligence levels.”

    Nativists said the same thing about the darker skinned Eastern and Southern Europeans.

    True. And they were not wrong. I grew up around southern Italians and know. Although the effect for the much darker and altogether racially different Blacks is orders of magnitude greater. No one with any sense, including their eyes and ears, does not know this.

    You seem to lack a point.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  25. @bucky

    It’s more an enemy-of-my-enemy dynamic. Hispanics don’t like blacks a lot more than they don’t like whites. You are never going to get more than around 35 – 40% of the Hispanic vote which the GOP is already pulling unless you’re prepared to adopt the Democrats’ nation-wrecking combo of open borders + gibmedats. In which case, why bother being Republican–just vote Democrat instead.

    • Replies: @bucky
  26. @Anarcho-Supremacist

    Honestly, if the Reps in GA don’t want the state to be dominated by a Black controlled Democrat party then they would be smart to switch over to the Louisiana top two system. That would make blacks politically weaker because they would be more likely to vote for a fringe black nationalist candidate that would turn off Hispanics and Asians.

    In 2018, Georgia Democrats did nominate a fringe black nationalist candidate for governor; she practically declared war on Heritage Americans with her call for the sandblasting of Stone Mountain. She came very close to winning the election.

  27. @obwandiyag

    Trains bring negroes.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  28. @Thomm

    When it is advantageous to Hispanics or politicians and the Cheap Labor Lobby, Hispanics are regarded as white by themselves and by whichever group is pandering to them for votes or cheap labor. So, Hispanics are white and afraid of real, measured, elevated murder rates in some quarters, or they are minorities, joining with whites in this referendum to separate themselves from the higher murder rate of another minority group, namely Blacks.

    We do not know the comparative rates of white v/s Hispanic murder. Statistics are only kept on white and Black murderers. No statistics are kept by the FBI on murders committed by Hispanics. No statistics are kept since it is advantageous to politicians pandering for votes, and to the Cheap Labor Lobby, to keep the American public in the dark about rates of murder among Hispanics, Asians, Muslims and other groups that politicians court to get their needed 1% victory margins.

    Whether they are actually white or non-white, no skin-pigmentation group other than Blacks was ever enslaved by Americans. All came to the USA voluntarily, with many breaking into the country illegally or overstaying their visas. Yet, disproportionate to their numbers, Hispanic immigrants are rewarded for womb-productive sex by .Gov, receiving everything from free food to housing assistance and up to $6,431 in refundable, yearly child tax credit cash. This helps them to work cheaply, undercutting the wages of US citizens for 40 years.

    Hispanics are white for purposes of murder statistics, making it easier for politicians to claim that immigrants commit fewer crimes, justifying higher rates of mass immigration. It also makes it easier for employers to justify replacing white citizens in the labor market, whereas it would not be as easy if complied statistics confirmed that legal / illegal immigrants in various minority groups commit more murders.

    While identifying as white when it serves their purposes, Hispanics (and other minorities) opportunistically game the many workplace and academic privileges, set up to serve as reparations for slavery and Jim Crow. This applies to legal privileges and un-written double standards, gamed by minority groups whose ancestors were never slaves and never victims of Jim Crow.

    Hispanics are non-white for purposes of accepting skin-pigmentation-themed scholarships from La Raza (The Race), an aggressive Hispanic nationalist group with branches that seek to make California a part of Mexico.

    Hispanics are also non-white when it comes to being above censorship for race-based nationalism. They are above censorship because of their darker skin-pigmentation tone—a tone that is really white according to the FBI, but non-white according to scholarship committees with a skin-pigmentation stipulation.

    Hispanics, like Blacks, are above charges of racism for using race to advertise businesses, such as Black and Hispanic TV stations and searchable, race-themed stores. They are above using race as an opportunistic maneuver to funnel customers to their businesses based on skin pigmentation, even though such behavior would likely get whites in legal trouble in 5 minutes flat.

    Hispanic managers, like Black and Asian managers, are above charges of racism when hiring an overwhelming majority of fellow minorities for government & corporate jobs. Even in large-scale government agencies, call centers and corporate back offices, minority managers cannot be regarded as racist for hiring mostly “friends” of similar skin-pigmentation hue.

    Hispanics (and other minority groups) are non-white when it comes to EEOC hiring & retention privileges that give them an advantage in snagging jobs due to their oppressed-minority status.

    EEOC laws give Hispanics (and other non-whites) legal protections that shield them from wanton firing, like the type of cutthroat churning that results in many hard-working, non-welfare-eligible, non-womb-productive whites never collecting a dime of UC to cover rent between churn jobs.

    These are the kind of bread-and-butter issues that many bottom-80%er whites have to be concerned with, particularly in an era with out-of-control rent costs, when over half of Americans are only working part-time. Jobs with rent-covering wages are scarce. When minorities can use their skin color as a hiring / retention advantage, it makes household-supporting jobs even scarcer for whites.

    It is not just the Rust Belter whites, pinpointed by the Sailer strategy, that could turn out for different reasons, and it is not just the crime issue outlined in this article that could serve as a motivation for high white turn out.

    But it looks like Republicans are trying to figure out a way to pander to Hispanics (and other “oppressed” minorities) on economic issues. They think the Black murder rate might unite whites and Hispanics without alienating Hispanics by asking them to give up their brownish privilege in matters of EEOC hiring, majority-minority workplaces, skin-pigmentation-themed scholarships, etc.

    As Millennials get older, they will inevitably shed their idealism as they confront the realities of a rigged American labor market and the impossibly expensive housing market. A larger slice of the bottom 80%er whites will likely abandon blind faith in the anti-racism/sexism/xenophobia religion.

    Any elitist glaze that it lays over their dismal situations will be subordinate to economic reality. Hard to say whether they will vote just based on crime, albeit people are far more likely to be the victim of a violent crime when they cannot afford to rent in a safe area. Most people end up voting on bread & butter issues, with a slathering of so-called moral issues used to give their voting pattern some holier-than-thou bling.

  29. Corvinus says:
    @Issac

    Really? Eastern And Southern Europeans–who happen to be WHITE–as darker skinned groups are more likely to have low IQ’s and are more prone to violence?

    Now, assuming it to be true, is this propensity due to genetics?

    Because what you are saying here is an anti-white statement in the eyes of the Alt Right. I thought white people ought to unite against the scourge of darker peoples. Have you even thought this through?

  30. Corvinus says:
    @Anon

    “True. And they were not wrong. I grew up around southern Italians and know.”

    That would be from your own experience. It may or may not be true for other people.

    “No one with any sense, including their eyes and ears, does not know this.”

    That would be more of an opinion.

    “You seem to lack a point.”

    So from your point of view, Eastern And Southern Europeans–who happen to be WHITE–as darker skinned groups are more likely to have low IQ’s and are more prone to violence?

    Now, assuming it to be true, is this propensity due to genetics?

    Because what you are saying here is an anti-white statement in the eyes of the Alt Right. I thought white people ought to unite against the scourge of darker peoples. Have you even thought this through?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  31. Corvinus says:
    @Father O'Hara

    “Trains bring negroes.”

    And free stuff and gimmedats brought Europeans to jackboot tribal groups into submission.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  32. By-tor says:
    @obwandiyag

    The Marta trains would have brought predatory blacks into the Gwinnett suburbs in intolerable numbers. Gwinnett County’s Asians and Latinos are cognizant of the threat posed by an increase in the number blacks.

  33. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    the real estate agents and mortgage bankers just LUV LUV LUV this kind of thing. Mo churn, mo money.

    It’s called “block-busting.” You move a negro family into a white neighborhood, and the whites move out. They don’t want to live with blacks….. Say it isn’t so.

    However, the usury banking system Luv Luv Luv’s this, because the old property is sold for a discount, and new property in the hinterlands is hypothecated for new debts. This then renews the debt cycle of new debts paying old debts, and our bankster friends keep their interest making business model going.

    E Michael Jones describes this process in “Slaughter of the Cities.” Jones is a Catholic, who also understands money, but he doesn’t really emphasize block busting cycle induced by Private Banking Corporate Credit (at usury).

    Block Busting is big business. 20 refugee families can borrow 1 million dollars; 20,000 refugee families can borrow a billion. Yes, I used refugees as an example for white people escaping block busting, but the same effect of immigrating replacement populations is to have new debtors and new “workers” to lower wages. Whites are refugees escaping block busting.

    So, once again, we are back to our (((Friends))) who use their black pets/agents to disturb cohesive white civilizations. Our friends do this through ownership of the money system, and this locus is the central focus that everybody should concentrate on, everything else is knock on effects.

    Post Civil War reconstruction had black leaders that wanted to leave the U.S.

    Reconstruction Acts by the North East Banking Establishment prevented blacks from leaving. In 1867 Southern whites were denied right to vote and blacks were given the vote to implement new economic policies. Federal troops were moved in to enforce the laws. The new black legislatures in the south were carefully constructed by northern usury bankers on how to vote hundred of millions of dollars into existence to pay for all sorts of extravagances, and make the whites go into debt to pay for them.

    Virginia’s reconstruction debts were not paid until 1960. The KKK actually came about because of these reconstruction conditions. General Nathan Bedford Forrest went after Brutal Blacks, sadistic police, venal corrupt judges, and venal legislators. Blacks and renegades soon chose NOT to hold office. A thrust of the knife in the dark of the night was the only recourse the Southerners had to the conditions thrust upon them by usury bankers.

    In the end, it didn’t matter, northeast banking establishment did manage to saddle former debt free south with debt, and today, block busting is used to add more debt, and immigration to add more debt, and blacks not allowed to leave as they are desired to become new debtors (or useful idiots for our friends).

    People are maneuvered and driven by money and prices, and average people seldom stop to examine this, much as a fish would not examine the water he swims in.

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @anarchyst
  34. bluedog says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    LOL damn this is bad for I agree with you,and your right the average person seldom to never examine’s or questions anything for after all government knows best.!!

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  35. MEFOBILLS says:
    @bluedog

    It’s pretty much impossible to have a government of the people, when the government is usurped by private money and plutocracy.

    As long as a “class” of people can make the money, and then ask for it back ++++plus, and if you don’t pay it back they get to take your stuff, well then that is a prescription for disaster.

    This disaster facing nations and tribes is that of “globalism” which at source has Jewish Cabala ideology- this cabalistic desire to repair the world with “them” in charge. We have to pay them to be in charge, to then dispossess us, including their using block busting techniques, so no stable civilization can form.

    Their being in charge is putting the worst elements of humanity in charge… these are people who don’t blink an eye at immoral acts, as long as it is good for the tribe. Our government is filled with puppets who do the bidding of hidden puppet masters.

    The movie “It Lives” is a good metaphor for the rapine nature of these people. As soon as we put on our glasses we can see them.

    Actually, the protocols say they have put glasses on our noses, we have to take off their glasses and put on ours.

  36. @Corvinus

    You seem unable to hold two ideas in your head at once: that a group, such as whites, can be, on the whole, smarter and more law-abiding than some other groups like sub-Saharan Africans, while at the same time there can be gradations of intelligence and propensity for violence, and a host of other things, within that group.

    You seem ignorant of what is a simple fact inherent in practically everything and obvious to most people.

    In other words, you seem to lack common sense and higher intelligence.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  37. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says: • Website

    This is TOO MUCH:

  38. Anonymous[362] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag

    Lol at the Nigerian.

    Of course people are afraid of the trains and not the horde of blacks that will follow.

  39. Anon[413] • Disclaimer says:

    Trains and buses allow for Section 8 mothers to move into suburban apartments in ring counties. 3 kids gets a eoman $900 in Sec 8 vouchers. She can get AFDC and WIC for younget kids. School breakfast and lunch, cash whats left from her EBT card (she wont need the entire allotment), and sell whatever pills she can talk a doctor into under the state medical plan (bad shoulder+anxiety = lortabs and xanax). Kid having trouble in school? ADD baby, ritalin or adderal. All very sellable.

    The elites really thought all this out.

  40. The grand old pricks living behind fortress walls have no problem importing millions of Third World orcs for cheap labor, did anyone think they wouldn’t cuck on shipping vibrants across town?

  41. bucky says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Uh, 35-40% was enough for Bush to get elected twice. The GOP cannot afford for the hispanic vote to become like 20% which is where it is headed with all of this build the wall crap.

    Right now the Democrats are getting on board with slavery reparations. Hispanics should be opposed to this.

    And hispanic fear-mongering is a thing because talking about black crime and dysfunction is un-PC.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  42. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Corvinus

    And free stuff and gimmedats brought Europeans to jackboot tribal groups into submission.

    There was no country of gimmedats. The original Europeans were settlers, who carved a new civilization out of the wilderness.

    Tribal groups were still in the stone age, and may have still been there today absent European arrival. These “tribal” groups were warring with each other, and eating each other in some cases.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  43. KenH says:
    @bucky

    The reason Cali was lost to the GOP was Pete Wilson’s anti-hispanic politics.

    Denying state welfare benefits to mostly mestizo illegal aliens is not “anti-hispanic” any more then Mexico denying benefits to illegal Anglos is “anti-Anglo”. Illegal aliens deserve absolutely nothing. If soft and mushy people like you could ever steel yourself then perhaps a great majority of them would leave.

  44. Anon[513] • Disclaimer says:

    All one must do is look to comparable situations.

    The Washington D.C. Metro is an example using the Green Line. I remember being younger and naive, questioning why it would bring crime. I didn’t think that people would ride the subways to a suburb they weren’t from to rape, Rob and kill. Boy, was I wrong! Look up crime at Metro stations, particularly ones that head I to the formerly half-decent ‘burbs.

  45. anon1 says:

    Jews are behind this great replacement. Just read that Goldberg article in the NYT. It will come back on them.

  46. Anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    I know of a couple of white libtards who moved out to Seattle from Atlanta. The reason cited was “Georgia is too racist!” Right. I’m thinking they were just scared shitless by all the black thugs, but were too liberal to admit it, so they blamed all other whites for being too “racist” causing so much disgust in them they had to leave. The trouble is, these libtards brought their dumb voting habits with them and are now voting solidly (D) in every election, making sure to elect the same politicians that wrecked wherever they came from.

    Seattle used to be solidly red before the 90’s, then the CA libtards came up and slowly turned us blue. Then the Asian horde arrived from India to work for Microsoft, and it was all but over. Now if you don’t have a (D) after your name you can forget about winning any election in Western WA. Oh and we are also the heroin capital of America, have the highest per capita homeless rate in the nation, and 2nd only to SF for property crimes per capita, nearly 4x that of NYC.

    Libtards ruin every place they move to.

  47. Anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve Sailer’s theory in https://vdare.com/articles/will-hispanics-and-asians-really-prefer-the-black-party-to-the-white-party:

    Hispanic and Asian voters should be encouraged to understand the central American political reality: they only get to choose between being the junior partners in the White Party or junior partners in the Black Party.

    Hmm. This article was written in 2013. Things have changed since. The rise of AOC and Kamala Harris shows that Hispanics and Asians (at least Indians) are no longer junior partners in the rainbow coalition. Perhaps Steve Sailer needs to revisit his theory.

  48. @bucky

    The 35% we’re pulling are on board with the wall. After all, they’re smart enough to realize it does them no good to bring in the same people they came here to get away from. The other 65% are basically social democrats if not outright socialist. So again, the only way to attract them is a nation-wrecking combo of Open Borders and gibmedats. In which case you might as well be a Democrat.

    You and Ron Unz may be comfortable with things like paying kidnap insurance premiums and ringing your house with walls with embedded glass at the top, but I’m not.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @jeff stryker
  49. utu says:

    Sailer’s strategy at work:

    Black Press Only!: Reporters turning up to cover a meeting about the Georgia mayoral race are turned away at the door unless they are African-American
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6860703/Only-black-reporters-allowed-Georgia-mayoral-race-event.html

  50. Corvinus says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    “There was no country of gimmedats. The original Europeans were settlers, who carved a new civilization out of the wilderness.”

    Settlers and immigrants who used force to remove various groups from their homelands for raw materials.

    “Tribal groups were still in the stone age, and may have still been there today absent European arrival.”

    They were more advanced than you believe.

    “These “tribal” groups were warring with each other”

    Just like Europeans.

    “and eating each other in some cases.”

    Sources?

  51. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    “The 35% we’re pulling are on board with the wall.”

    Source?

    “After all, they’re smart enough to realize it does them no good to bring in the same people they came here to get away from. ”

    The English Protestants could have been only so lucky, but (poof), there ragamuffin friends busted down the door.

    “The other 65% are basically social democrats if not outright socialist.”

    Sources?

    “So again, the only way to attract them is a nation-wrecking combo of Open Borders and gibmedats.”

    No different when the Europeans came barging in.

    “You and Ron Unz may be comfortable with things like paying kidnap insurance premiums and ringing your house with walls with embedded glass at the top, but I’m not.”

    That would be Brazil, not the United States. Do you not live in a relatively safe neighborhood compliments of your own “kidnaping insurance premiums” schemes as an ambulance chaser?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  52. Corvinus says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “You seem unable to hold two ideas in your head at once: that a group, such as whites, can be, on the whole, smarter and more law-abiding than some other groups like sub-Saharan Africans, while at the same time there can be gradations of intelligence and propensity for violence, and a host of other things, within that group.”

    Actually, that would be an assumption and a contradiction wrapped into one. The white “middlings” or “bottom feeders” when it comes to intelligence and violence brings down the group as a whole, especially if they intermarried. Now, I would like to see your sourced material that demonstrates how this “gradation” in Europe originated and remains firmly in place due to genetics. I look forward to your explanation since you seem convinced of this ethnic IQ hierarchy in Europe.

    “You seem ignorant of what is a simple fact inherent in practically everything and obvious to most people.”

    You mean an opinion that you hold.

    “In other words, you seem to lack common sense and higher intelligence.”

    That would apparently be Eastern and Southern Europeans. Have you no shame and dignity? Why are you promoting anti-white hostility?

    • Replies: @Archie Bunker
  53. @Corvinus

    Mongrel, you do not even know what my legal specialty is.

    • Agree: Archie Bunker
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  54. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    “Mongrel”

    How uncivilized for you to say! The polite term in our society is “mixed breed”. Pray tell, man, are you a “pure breed”? Is that the reason for your hostility?

    “you do not even know what my legal specialty is.”

    Cheater, liar, or swindler. Take your pick.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  55. Ballyhoo says:

    In 1971, attorney and Democratic operative Fred G. Dutton published a book (“Changing Sources of Power: America in the 1970s”) in which he proposed the following: since FDR’s New Deal Democratic coalition hadn’t been voting reliably for Democrats since 1948 (i.e. once they achieved some level of prosperity after World War 2), then the Democrats needed to go after some fresh demographics, preferably ones that could be more securely fastened to the Party.

    He proposed specifically that the Democrats start going after 5 demographic groups: Blacks, Women, the Young, Immigrants, and the Jewish vote (this list has since been expanded but his basic idea has remained intact).

    I would say that – being a long-time and much-experienced political player, and having served in some higher-level positions since the end of World War 2 – he had been watching this leakage of demographics for quite a while.

    The significance of the insights that he eventually crystallized in his 1971 book is this: it is a very relevant element in explaining the Democratic Party’s lurch into Identity Politics in the 1960s and since then. And whereas the Party spun so many of its ‘revolutionary’ changes in those years as majestically and un-opposably driven by purely and totally ‘moral’ and altruistic motives, there was a very hefty element of ruthless (not to say desperate) political calculation driving its swing toward ‘revolution’ and ‘change’ and toward what we see today.

    This might go a ways toward explaining, for example, LBJ’s mind-numbing burble in 1965 that the Democratic Party was against very little and for very much so give us a try. That the Party’s demographics were sagging and had been since 1948 would hardly have been news to as consummate a pol as LBJ.

    The Civil and Voting Rights Acts were passed in ’64 and ’65; the Immigration Act that opened the floodgates was passed in ’65 (we are currently at the stage where some Dems are pushing for ‘non-citizen voting’); the federal voting age was lowered to 18 in ’72 (we are currently at the stage where Dems are pushing for 16 year-olds to vote). And if memory serves, on his way out the door in late 1968, LBJ quietly issued an Order that administratively added ‘gender’ to various Titles of the Civil Rights Act (which itself had mentioned only ‘sex’).

  56. @Corvinus

    You are obviously a mongrel, you are wordy and full of shit, disappear fool

  57. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Corvinus

    Cheater, liar, or swindler. Take your pick.

    These, unfortunately, describe you Corvinus.

    Take your pick–or all of them.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  58. Corvinus says:
    @lavoisier

    I see The Anti-Gnostic let out his little yap dog to ankle bite again. You would think he would put you on a leash.

  59. @EliteCommInc.

    Sure they refuse to work for less than whites.

    Because they’re so much less productive than Whites.  I have seen a black worker take a couple of minutes to do a bit of data entry that a White normally does in 15 seconds.

    Expect access and fair treatment in all things regarding their citizenship.

    Expect access to their employer’s assets and merchandise, and murder people when fired for stealing (calling the management “racists”).

    I think you suggest that blacks are a nuisance because the policies designed to disfranchise them, including the criminal justice system has failed to accomplish the task.

    Noise, dirt, litter, and unkempt property are nuisances.  Hostility, aggravated assault, robbery, rape and murder are far more than mere nuisances.

    We may even get slavery back.

    Not gonna happen; John Rust automated the last job that slaves could do at a profit.  The African is well and truly obsolete farm equipment.

    • Agree: KenH
  60. @The Anti-Gnostic

    QUESTION ABOUT SOCIALISM

    How will socialism damage the United States? Australia, Canada, New Zealand and Europe are more socialist and seem to have less crime and a higher standard of living than the US, including a higher minimum wage.

    Why would socialism act differently in the US?

    Socialism is often dreaded here, but I have to ask why? What would happen if the US became a socialist country?

    • Disagree: Archie Bunker
    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  61. nebulafox says:
    @Corvinus

    Ah, come on, Corvy, that old 1980s trick? Largely “rediscovered” by the media as a way to prevent people from paying attention to what Dukakis and Estrich tried to desperately pull with Angel Medrano toward the end of the 1988 campaign? You ripped that one right off The Nation!

    Let me just post right here what Atwater said in the full context of the interview, for those not in the know:

    “From 1954 through 1966, race was THE issue [in the South]. …

    In 1980, I think the crucial thing in 1980 is, the two dominant issues in southern politics, which had been race and party–you had to be a Democrat to win–are pretty well resolved. And the main issues became the economy and national defense.

    So what you have is two things happening that totally washed away the Southern strategy, the Harry Dent type Southern strategy, and that is, that whole strategy was based, although it was more sophisticated than a Bilbo or a George Wallace, it was nevertheless based on coded racism. The whole thing, busing, we want a Supreme Court judge that won’t have busing, anything you look at can be traced back to the issue [of race], in the old southern strategy. It was not done in a blatantly discriminatory way.

    But Reagan did not have to do a southern strategy for two reasons. Number one, race was was not a dominant issue. And number two, the mainstream issues in this campaign had been, quote, southern issues since way back in the sixties. So Reagan goes out and campaigns on the issues of economics and of national defense. The whole campaign was devoid of any kind of racism, any kind of reference. And I’ll tell you another thing you all need to think about, that even surprised me, is the lack of interest, really, the lack of knowledge right now in the South among white voters about the Voting Rights Act.

    Q: I’m just wondering how much residual there is called racism in the anti-government, anti-Washington, states rights, return to states rights, de-federalize, cut social programs–how much is a residual of the old days in the antipathy towards welfare programs, poverty programs, and other political, social, economic programs which give power to black folks, or poor folks…and it’s not purely southern, but the Legal Services Corporation giving problems to municipalities in Mississippi that want to gerrymander, and those types if things.

    A: Well, sure, OK, but I think this, and don’t get me wrong. You go to these white country clubs and they’ll say, shit, I’m tired of them getting everything and all that. But the bottom line is, it’s a mainstream thing now. It’s not grounded in racism, as much as it is on account of the Network movie syndrome, I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore. Now, statistically, the poor people, the people receiving all these things, are black. Now, some of the Southern stuff may still be racism, but it’s such a widespread thing now, I think it’s almost developing into a class struggle type issue rather than a racism issue.

    My generation will be the first generation of southerners that won’t be prejudiced, totally….But what I am saying is that that has really been sublimated by a bunch of other issues.

    We’re leading up to my whole strategy in the deep south in 1980, which…the whole focus group in the south was that blue collar worker. Now that’s important when you tie it back to the racist thing, because he is also the guy who is most threatened by the black, and is also the most prone to be, quote, a racist. And until 1980, and a little bit in 1976, the race issue was how you approached that vote. Plus, the most conservative guy on fiscal matters always got his vote, and the toughest son of a bitch on foreign policy matters got his vote. …

    Q: But [Reagan’s] not going to lose the south if he goes along with what the blacks want on voting rights, is what you’re saying?

    A: That should be a thrust of his. In 1968, the whole southern strategy that Harry and those put together, the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the south. Now they don’t have to do that. All you have to do to keep the south is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he’s campaigned on since 1964. And that’s fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cutting taxes, you know, the whole cluster, and being tough on national defense.”

    Naturally, of course, Bashir couldn’t take this for an answer, as it would contradict The Narrative of the South turning Republican all due to race rather than a complex process involving massive economic change, inter-state migration, the revival of foreign policy hawkishness midway through the Carter Administration, social conservatism, and race. (Plus, they’d be forced to explain how Carter managed to do so well with Wallace voters, or that Nixon didn’t even with the Deep South until 1972-you know, the year he won everywhere except for Boston.) Thus, he pressed Atwater, leading to the infamous plucked quote: without bothering to print the whole conversation, which revolved around race not being the dominant issue in the South that it was 20 years previously. Which it wasn’t.

    “*So any way you look at it, race is coming on the back burner*.”

    >Besides, the key to any election are the normies, who make their own decisions about race and politics.

    Good point, Corvy the Normy! We could extent that conversation to discussions about gender and sexuality. Speaking of the latter, have you been going to a psychologist about your feelings for Vox Day? I’m sure that those big boy words you’ve been learning came from him and your other new alt-right friends. Sounds like you’ve been making progress.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  62. @Corvinus

    Actually, I find it curious that a ‘strategy’ by which a party nails down the planks of its own platform by openly supporting their own constituents needs to be named at all.

    Why take the time to split hairs like this unless you’re trolling or just like to hear the sound of your own voice?

  63. @jeff stryker

    1. They’ve decided not to have militaries.
    2. They’re not actually socialist.
    3. They have low vibrancy, for now.

    I don’t know about the other places, but in Canada every middle-class person thinks it makes perfect sense to pay for public medical care, and then go buy a private policy to make up for all the deficiencies in public medical care. Delusional.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  64. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    “I don’t know about the other places, but in Canada every middle-class person thinks it makes perfect sense to pay for public medical care, and then go buy a private policy to make up for all the deficiencies in public medical care.”

    It is not as deficient as you think. You are probably upset because you can’t make as much coin up there if you desired to expand your ambulance chasing business.

    https://www.pacificprime.com/country/americas/canada-health-insurance-pacific-prime-international/

  65. Corvinus says:
    @nebulafox

    “Let me just post right here what Atwater said in the full context of the interview, for those not in the know…”

    Indeed, fiscal conservatism was a major component of Reagan’s agenda, as was the assurances of Atwater, by way of Nixon, that the White House was a friend of the South when it came to race. Moreover, Atwater is downplaying his own words by insisting that “race and party” were of secondary importance. Remember, it was only 15 years since the passage of Civil Rights legislation. The South was undergoing a radical transformation. They wanted assurances that further “damage” to their long-standing “institutions” would be “prevented”. They found a friend in Reagan. Race remained a potent force in the South throughout the 1980’s. It was not overt, but covert. Atwater is trying to minimize the importance of that ongoing phenomenon.

    “Speaking of the latter, have you been going to a psychologist about your feelings for Vox Day?”

    That would be you for your undying love and affection for him that you display on his blog. You’re projecting again. You ought to follow her course of action for you.

  66. anarchyst says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    I grew up in Detroit and can relate to the “changes” that occurred during my residency.
    Blacks WERE a major problem in 1970s and beyond Detroit.
    I was able to keep up my property with no difficulty, painting the house (outside) on a regular basis, mowing the lawn and keeping the shrubbery trimmed-normal maintenance for any homeowner.
    Contrast my maintenance efforts and results with my black “neighbors” who did not keep up their property. You see, in the 1970s HUD had “special programs” to move blacks into single-family housing, without requiring these blacks to have any “skin in the game”.
    Of course, being white, I did not qualify for any of these programs.
    The liberal “urban studies” folks at Wayne State University have always made excuses for blacks and their inability to maintain their homes due to lack of “upkeep” (normal everyday maintenance) on their homes. Their main excuse was that “the homes were old”…never blaming the black residents themselves.
    On almost every block, whites (mostly elderly Polish) who could not afford to move STILL kept up their homes–freshly cut grass, well-maintained exteriors, etc. despite their homes being just as “old” as those owned by blacks. No matter where you went in Detroit, one could always tell where whites lived. Neatly manicured lawns and well-kept-up houses were the norm.
    I finally left Detroit after a number of burglaries and little or no police response. The police KNEW who the criminals were but did nothing about it. You see, blacks were “oppressed” and were “untouchable”.
    Another situation was the “code enforcement” harassment that us whites endured. We always used the city-supplied trash containers (one for every two residences). Our black “neighbors” were too lazy to put their trash in the containers, strewing their trash throughout the alleys. Guess who got repeatedly ticketed for “improperly disposed of trash”? It wasn’t the blacks who improperly disposed of their trash–it was us whites. It was as if they (the black-run city government) wanted us to move…
    No, the old liberal excuses that poverty was instrumental in the destruction of Detroit is totally false.
    All one has to do is ask the party (liquor) store owners why they put up with the likes of blacks. The Detroit “ghetto” was (and is still) quite a “gold mine” for businesses that sell liquor, lottery tickets and junk food.
    I grew up in Detroit and personally witnessed the marginalization of whites along with the destruction by blacks.
    It’s CULTURE, not “poverty”.
    The “elites” need to stop making excuses for black culture and black aberrant behavior.

  67. By 2033, the state is projected to be majority-minority.

    Why do even people on our side use this inaccurate anti-white term, which pretends that whites are a majority even when we’re not? The term is “all-minority” or “majoritiless”.

  68. @redmudhooch

    “All of these problems could be fixed over time if they were interested in fixing them. “

    No, they can’t. You cannot raise the average IQ of a population, at least not in a democratic, Western country. And that is what would have to happen to affect change in the American-African community. It

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