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The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews: Jesuits of Jewish Ancestry and Purity-of-Blood Laws in the Early Society of Jesus
Robert Aleksander Maryks
Brill, 2010.
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Part One

“Those from the circumcision subverted the entire house of the Society. As sons of this world who are shrewd in dealing with their own, and avid of new things, they easily excite disorders and destroy the unity of souls and their bond with the government.”
Lorenzo Maggio, Jesuit Curia in Rome, 1586.

One of the more interesting aspects of Jewish group behavior is the presence of subversive strategies employing crypsis, often facilitated by a combination of deception and self-deception. To date, the most forthright and convincing theoretical framework for understanding cryptic forms of Judaism is found in Kevin MacDonald’s groundbreaking Separation and Its Discontents: Toward and Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism. A substantial portion of the fourth chapter of the text (1998/2004: 121–132) is devoted to ‘Reactive Racism in the Period of the Iberian Inquisitions.’ Here MacDonald puts forth the view (147) that the blood purity struggles of the Spanish Inquisition during the 15th and 16th centuries should be seen as “an authoritarian, collectivist, and exclusionary movement that resulted from resource and reproductive competition with Jews, and particularly crypto-Jews posing as Christians.” The historical context lies predominantly in the forced conversion of Jews in Spain in 1391, after which these ‘New Christians’ or conversos assumed (or indeed retained) a dominance in the areas of law, finance, diplomacy, public administration, and a wide range of economic activities. MacDonald argues (148) that despite superficial religious conversions, the New Christians “must be considered a historical Jewish group” that acted in such a way as to continue the advance of its ethnic interests. An integral aspect of this was that Wealthy New Christians purchased and endowed ecclesiastical benefices for their children, with the result that many prelates were of Jewish descent.

Indirectly, and almost certainly unintentionally, MacDonald’s arguments find much in the way of corroboration in The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews (2010) by Boston College’s Robert Aleksander Maryks. Examining the same geographical area during the same period, Maryks presents an account of the early years of the Society of Jesus, during which a fierce struggle took place for the soul, fate, and control of the Order; a struggle involving a highly influential crypto-Jewish bloc and a competing network of European Christians. In this unpolished but interesting book, Maryks illuminates this struggle with reference to previously undiscovered material, in the process shedding light on some of the most important recurring themes of reactive anti-Semitism: Jewish ethnocentrism, nepotism, the tendency to monopoly, and the strategic use of alliances with European elites. Perhaps most fascinating of all, Maryks makes significant reference to Jewish responses to European efforts to stifle their influence, some of which are remarkable in the close manner in which they parallel modern examples of Jewish apologetic propaganda. As such, The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews is highly recommended for anyone seeking to understand, via an easily-digested historical case study, the dynamics of the ethnic conflict between Jews and Europeans.

Maryks divides his text into four well-paced chapters. The first provides readers with ‘The Historical Context of Purity-of-Blood Discrimination (1391–1547),’ a detailed standalone introduction to the nature of the ‘New Christian’ problem in Iberia but which should be read in conjunction with MacDonald’s work on the same theme. The second chapter concerns ‘Early Jesuit Pro-Converso Policy (1540–72),’ which demonstrates the intensive manner in which crypto-Jews infiltrated key positions in the Society of Jesus, adapting its ideological positions in accordance with their interests, and eventually establishing a monopoly on top positions that extended to the Vatican. The third chapter, ‘Discrimination Against Jesuits of Jewish Lineage (1573–93),’ concerns the establishment of a movement acting against the crypto-Jewish strategy, with an analysis of the key figures and their rationale. The fourth chapter, ‘Jesuit Opposition to the Purity-of-Blood Discrimination (1576–1608),’ examines the efforts of crypto-Jewish Jesuits to fight back against the European counter-strategy, often involving the employment of tactics and stances that are now familiar to us as the hallmarks of a Jewish intellectual movement.

This sequence parallels the processes that led to the Inquisition—New Christians establishing themselves in top positions in Spanish politics, business, and culture, provoking a reaction by the Old Christians aimed at regaining power, followed by Jewish counter efforts against the Inquisition and the against the Spanish government generally, the latter typically played out on the international scene.

One of the key strengths of this fascinating book is that Maryks can rely on relatively recent genealogical discoveries to prove beyond doubt that many of the individuals once merely “accused” of being crypto-Jews were undeniably of Jewish lineage. Maryks can thus cut through a clouded period in which ancestry was vital and yet fogged with accusations, denials, and counter-accusations, with tremendous clarity. In the author’s words (xxix), “racial tensions played a pivotal role in early Jesuit history.”

Opening his book, Maryks recalls delivering a paper on converso influence in the Jesuits, and afterwards receiving an email from a man with origins in the Iberian peninsula. The email concerned the remarkably long survival of crypto-Jewish behaviors in the sender’s family:

From Friday evening through Saturday evening, his grandfather would hide the image of baby Jesus from a large framed picture of St. Anthony that he kept in his home. It was, in fact, a wind-up music box. On Fridays he would wind up the mechanism and push a button, so that Jesus would disappear out of St. Anthony’s arms, hidden in the upper frame of the picture. On Saturdays he would push the button, so that Jesus would come back out from hiding into St. Anthony’s arms. As eldest son in his family, my correspondent was told this story by his father, who also asked him to eat only kosher food. (xv)

The survival of such eccentric, and in this case apparently trivial, forms of crypto-Judaism into what one assumes to be the early twentieth century, might appear to be little more than a socio-historical curio. In actual fact, however, it is a small but memorable vestige of what was once a very powerful means of continuing the Jewish group evolutionary strategy in the Iberian peninsula after 1391 — an overwhelmingly hostile environment. In a political, religious, and social context devoid of the synagogue and many of the most visible aspects of Judaism, small reminders of group difference, even otherwise trivial ones like hiding images of Jesus or adhering to discreet dietary rules, became vital methods for retaining group cohesion.

For some time, these methods were largely successful in facilitating the continuance of Jewish life ‘under the noses’ of the Christian host society. During this successful period, conversos were able to expand nepotistic monopolies of influence in a wide range of civic and even (Christian) religious spheres. When it failed, however, the consequences could be catastrophic. Maryks points out (xxii) that from its founding in 1540 to 1593, the Society of Jesus had no discriminatory legislation against individuals of Jewish heritage, and that during this period converso Jesuits “held the highest administrative offices, and defined the Society’s institutional development and spirituality.” However, significant resistance to this crypto-Jewish monopoly had developed by the latter date, and from 1593 to 1608 a power struggle resulted in the defeat of the crypto-Jewish element and the introduction of laws prohibiting the admittance of members of ‘impure blood.’ From 1608 until 1946 this involved a review of the ancestry of any potential member of the Society of Jesus, up to the fifth generation.

The Jewish Origins of the Jesuits

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On 15 August 1534, Ignatius of Loyola (born Íñigo López de Loyola), a Spaniard from the Basque city of Loyola, and six others, all students at the University of Paris, met in Montmartre outside Paris, in a crypt beneath the church of Saint Denis, to pronounce the religious vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience. Ignatius’ six companions were: Francis Xavier from Navarre (modern Spain), Alfonso Salmeron, Diego Laínez, Nicolás Bobadilla from Castile (modern Spain), Pierre Favre from Savoy, and Simão Rodrigues from Portugal. At this point they called themselves the Compañía de Jesús, and also Amigos en El Señor or “Friends in the Lord.” The Spanish “company” would be translated into Latin as societas, deriving from socius, a partner or comrade. This soon evolved into the “Society of Jesus” (SJ) by which they would later be more widely known. In 1537, the seven travelled to Italy to seek papal approval for their order. Pope Paul III gave them a commendation, and permitted them to be ordained priests. The official founding of the Society of Jesus occurred in 1540.

The presence and influence of conversos in the Society of Jesus was strong from the beginning. Of the seven founding members, Maryks provides categorical evidence that four were of Jewish ancestry — Salmeron, Laínez, Bobadilla, and Rodrigues. In addition, Loyola himself has long been noted for his strong philo-Semitism, and one recent PhD thesis[1]See Kevin Ingram, Secret lives, public lies: The conversos and socio-religious non-conformism in the Spanish Golden Age. Ph.D. Thesis (San Diego: University of California, 2006), pp. 87–8. has even advanced a convincing argument that Loyola’s maternal grandparents, (his grandfather, Dr. Martín García de Licona, was a merchant and financial advisor at court), were full-blooded conversos — thus rendering the ‘Basque nobleman’ halachically Jewish. Jewish scholar of the Inquisition, Henry Kamen, who had earlier argued that the Inquisition was “a weapon of social welfare” used mainly to obliterate the conversos as a distinct class capable of offering social and economic competition to ‘Old Christians,’ once voiced his own personal view that Loyola was “a deep and sincere spiritual Semite.”[2]Quoted in Maryks, The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews, p.xx.

Straightforward assessments of the reasons for Loyola’s philo-Semitism are, as Maryks admirably elucidates, complicated by the ubiquitous presence of converso propaganda. More specifically, Loyola’s reputation as an ardent admirer of the Jews rests predominantly on a series of anecdotes and remarks attributed to him — and many of these derive from biographies penned shortly after his death by converso Jesuits aiming to promote and defend their interests. For example, the only source for the argument that Loyola had an overwhelming desire to be of Jewish origin so that he could “become a relative of Christ and his Mother” is the first official biography of Loyola — penned by the converso Pedro de Ribadeneyra. Ribadeneyra is described by Maryks as “a closet-converso” who distorted many now-established facts about Loyola’s life, including a concealment of the fact that “the Inquisition in Alcalá had accused Loyola of being a crypto-Jew.” (43) An important aspect of Ribadeneyra’s biography was thus the promotion of the idea that being Jewish was desirable and admirable — Loyola’s philo-Semitism (real or imagined) was intended to be emulated. Meanwhile the sinister aspects of crypto-Judaism, and their suppression by the Inquisition, were excised from the story altogether.

Whether Loyola was in fact a crypto-Jew, or whether he indeed was a European but possessed a strong desire to be a Jew, remains unconfirmed at time of this writing. However, it is certain that Loyola surrounded himself with many converso colleagues and that he opposed any discrimination against converso candidates within the Society of Jesus. Maryks argues that, issues of crypsis and philo-Semitism aside, Loyola was probably “motivated by the financial support that he had sought from their [converso] network in Spain.”(xx) In this reading then, Loyola was fully aware of the elite position of the conversos within Spanish society and was prepared to accept their money to establish his organization in exchange for adopting a non-racial stance in its governance.

The question of course remains as to why the crypto-Jewish elite in Spain would back, both financially and in terms of manpower, a Christian religious order. The important thing to keep in mind is that religion and politics in Early Modern Europe were intimately entwined, and that, through spiritual confraternities and their relationships with local elites, even poverty-espousing religious orders like the Franciscans could exert a strong form of socio-political influence. This was often made even more sharply evident when religious orders engaged in missionary work in foreign lands, often taking pioneering roles in colonial regimes, and even assisting with their economic enterprises. William Caferro notes that in Renaissance Italy “the Florentine political elite was closely tied to the church. Government officials often held high church office and benefice, which aided their local political power.”[3]W. Caferro, Contesting the Renaissance (Oxford:Wiley-Blackwell, 2010), p.158. Involvement in religious orders was thus a necessary aspect and extension of political, social, and cultural influence.

Unsurprisingly then, it can be demonstrated that crypto-Jews straddled the interconnected networks of royal administration, the civic bureaucracy, and the Church. Citing just some examples, Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh note in their history of the Inquisition:

In 1390 the rabbi of Burgos converted to Catholicism. He ended his life as Bishop of Burgos, Papal legate and tutor to a prince of the blood. [Burgos’s son would later become an important pro-converso activist and will be discussed below]. He was not alone. In some of the major cities, the administration was dominated by prominent converso families. At the very time the Spanish Inquisition was formed, King Ferdinand’s treasurer was converso in his background. In Aragón, the five highest administrative posts in the kingdom were occupied by conversos. In Castile, there were at least four converso bishops. Three of Queen Isabella’s secretaries were conversos, as was the official court chronicler.[4]M. Baigent & R. Leigh, The Inquisition (London: Viking Press, 1999), pp.75-6.

For the crypto-Jewish elite of early modern Spain, the founding of an influential religious order headed by a philo-Semite (if not a fellow crypto-Jew), staffed predominantly by a converso leadership, and constitutionally tolerant of converso applicants, would undoubtedly have been an attractive prospect. That a bargain of some form existed between Loyola and his crypto-Jewish sponsors is suggested, as noted above, by the nature of the early Jesuit constitution and by early correspondence concerning the admission of candidates of Jewish ancestry. The founding of the Jesuit order had coincided with the rise of a more general Spanish anti-converso atmosphere that reached its peak in 1547, “when the most authoritative expression of the purity-of- blood legislation, El Estatuto de limpieza [de sangre], was issued by the Inquisitor General of Spain and Archbishop of Toledo, Silíceo (xx).” Pope Paul IV and Silíceo’s former pupil, King Philip II, ratified the archbishop’s statutes in 1555 and 1556, respectively, but Ignatius of Loyola and his converso successor, Diego Laínez (1512–65) vigorously opposed the Inquisitor’s attempts to preclude conversos from joining the Jesuits. In fact, in a letter addressed to the Jesuit Francisco de Villanueva (1509–57), Loyola wrote that “in no way would the Jesuit Constitutions accept the policy of the archbishop (xxi).”

Seeking to quell rising tensions over the issue, in February 1554 Loyola sent his plenipotentiary emissary, Jerónimo Nadal (1507–80), to visit the Inquisitor. Nadal insisted that the Jesuit Constitutions did not discriminate between candidates of the Society on the basis of lineage, and even personally admitted a number of converso candidates during his visit to Iberia. In a heated debate with the Inquisitor over the admission of one of them, Nadal replied: “We [Jesuits] take pleasure in admitting those of Jewish ancestry.” In what would become a striking pattern, most of the pro-converso arguments were made by crypto-Jews claiming to be native Spaniards. Maryks notes that his historical investigations suggest that Nadal was “most probably a descendant of Majorcan Jews (77).”

Jewish attempts to alter Christian thinking about Jews, from within Christianity, were already well-established by the date of Nadal’s intercession with the Inquisitor. An excellent example is the classic work of Alonso de Santa María de Cartagena (1384–1456) — Defensorium unitatis christianae [In Defense of Christian Unity] (1449–50). Alonso de Cartagena had been baptized (at the age of five or six) by his father Shlomo ha-Levi, later renamed Pablo de Santa María (c. 1351–1435), who— as chief rabbi of Burgos—converted to Christianity just before the anti-Jewish riots of 1391 and later was elected bishop of Cartagena (1402) and Burgos (1415). The fact that the wife of this Bishop of Burgos remained an unconverted Jewess does not appear to have impeded the latter’s career in the Church is interesting to say the least.

Meanwhile his son, Cartagena, like many other conversos, studied civil and ecclesiastical law at Salamanca and went on to a highly influential career straddling royal, civic, and religious spheres. He served as apostolic nuncio and canon in Burgos. King Juan II appointed Cartagena as his official envoy to the Council of Basel (1434–9), where he contributed to the formulation of a decree on “the regenerative character of baptism without regard for lineage (4).” Like other examples of pro-converso propaganda, however, Cartagena’s arguments always went beyond mere appeals for ‘tolerance.’ According to Cartagena, “the faith appears to be more splendid in the Israelite flesh,” Jews naturally possess a “civic nobility,” and it was the duty of rough and uncouth native Spaniards to unite with the “tenderness of the Israelite meekness.” (14, 17)

Conversos thus emerge in the works of the earliest crypto-Jewish activists as more special than ordinary Christians, as naturally deserving of an elite status, and, far from being the worthy objects of hostility, were in fact uniquely blameless, ‘tender,’ and ‘meek.’ One is struck by the regular use of similar arguments in our contemporary environment, a similarity that only increases when one considers Cartagena’s attribution of anti-Jewish hostility solely to “the malice of the envious.” (20)

Against this backdrop of crypto-Jewish apologetics, Maryks demonstrates, whether he intends to or not, that the early Jesuits were largely a vehicle for converso power and influence (both political and ideological). Loyola continued to be “surrounded” by conversos throughout his leadership (55). Enrique Enríques, the son of Portuguese Jews, even authored the first Jesuit manual of moral theology, Theologiae moralis summa, in 1591. (65) Maryks describes Loyola as having an unlimited “trust” in candidates of Jewish heritage, citing his decision to “admit in 1551 Giovanni Battista Eliano (Romano), the grandson of the famous grammarian and poet Rabbi Elijah Levita (1468–1549) …. He entered the Society at the age of twenty-one, just three months after his baptism (66).”

In explaining Loyola’s lax requirements for converso applicants, and resultant acquiescence in flooding the Society with crypto-Jews, it is strange that Maryks should abandon his own prior suggestion that the founding of the Jesuits may have rested on a quid pro quo with the converso elite in favor of a less convincing theory based on a putative and ill-explained “trust” that Loyola possessed for Jews. Unfortunately this is a common theme throughout Jewish historiography, where the facts and conclusions presented in the same text are often on entirely different trajectories. In a similar vein, Maryks’s skeletal explanation that crypto-Jews flooded the Jesuits simply because Loyola had “numerous contacts with the converso spiritual and merchant network” before he founded the Society of Jesus, seems woefully inadequate and lacking in context.

Despite the best laid plans of Loyola and his colleagues, and just 32 years after its founding, the Society of Jesus would undergo a revolt from below against a rapidly expanding crypto-Jewish elite. The features of this revolt represent a fascinating case study in the reactive nature of anti-Semitism. Maryks narrative of how two competing ethnic groups struggled for the future of the Jesuit Order, outlined in his second and third chapters, is certainly the greatest strength of the text. It is to this European counter-strategy that we now turn our attention.

Part Two

“Being children of this world, pompous, cunning, fake, self-seeking, etc., it is certain that they fit religious life very badly and that it is impossible to maintain union with them. If those of this blood are made superiors, they employ almost all their government in external things: they promote genuine mortification and solid virtues very little, and seem to be merchants, seeking first seats and being called rabbis; they are hardly eager to seek perfection that is described in the parts 5 and 6 of the Constitutions; and readily admit others of the same blood who are very unworthy.”
Manuel Rodrigues, Jesuit curia in Rome.

The Racial Struggle for the Jesuit Order

Everard Mercurian (1514-1580)
Everard Mercurian (1514-1580)

The complaints of native Spanish members of the Society of Jesus, regarding the crypto-Jewish Jesuit elite, are remarkably uniform. Predominant among their concerns was the Jewish tendency towards monopoly, nepotism, arrogance, aggressive ambition, and an air of insincerity in the practice of Christianity. Of particular concern was the fact that the Spanish Jesuit Order was becoming an exclusive enclave of influential Jews that stretched out even into the heart of Rome.

The epigraph above, from Manuel Rodrigues, highlights all of these themes, some of which have been empirically demonstrated. For example, the body of research compiled by Maryks and other scholars, and discussed in Part 1, more than provides sufficient evidence in support of the accusation that crypto-Jews were “readily admitting others of the same blood.” Moreover, Benedetto Palmio, an Italian assistant to two native European Jesuit Superior Generals (Francisco de Borja and Everard Mercurian), complained of the “multitude and insolence of Spanish neophytes,” whom he described as a “pestilence (133).” Stressing that “where a New Christian was found, it was impossible to live in peace,” he added that “those who governed in Rome were almost all neophytes. … This sort of people and almost no other were being admitted in Spain (133).” King Phillip II of Spain had by the 1570s taken to describing the Jesuits as a “Synagogue of Hebrews.” (133)

The method of leadership employed by this crypto-Jewish elite was further described by Palmio as despotic. The crypto-Jewish elite in Rome was behaving “not as fathers but as masters (135).” Reflecting age-old Jewish ethnic networking, there were gross ethnic disparities in promotions to high office, with Palmio stressing that “the neophytes want to dominate everywhere and this is why the Society is agitated by the tempest of discords and acrimonies (138).” Conversos were “overly ambitious, insolent, Janus-faced, pretentious, despotic, astute, terrible, greedy for power, and infamous.” (142) Lorenzo Maggio, an Italian Jesuit curia in Rome, complained that “those from the circumcision subverted the entire house of the Society.” (117)

Regardless of the actual origins of the Jesuit Order, which were heavily Jewish and intertwined with the search for political influence from the beginning, many native European members seem to have perceived the Society of Jesus as an essentially good religious movement that had been founded on idealist and pious terms, but had been corrupted along the way by the infiltration of power-seeking crypto-Jews. It is of course essential to note that such perceptions were not unique to the Society of Jesus. Around the same time that agitation was building within the Jesuit Order, Bishop Diego de Simancas of Zamora urged his parishioners to combat the machinations of the conversos and their activities in “deceiving the pope and his ministers (31).” Simancas, like Rodrigues, Palmio, and Hoffaeus, concluded that conversos were prone to “ambition, conspiracy, and greed for power” as demonstrated by the fact they had “infiltrated the offices of importance in the Church of Toledo.” (34–5)

In order to combat crypto-Jewish nepotism and extensive ethnic networking, native European Jesuits developed very interesting counter-strategies that in many respects mirrored their Jewish counterparts. Again, the patterns seen here should be regarded as broadly supportive of Kevin MacDonald’s analysis of the reactive nature of anti-Semitism in Separation and Its Discontents, where one of the key chapters concerns National Socialism as a mirror image strategy. What non-Jewish Jesuits essentially did in the early stages of the revolt from below, was, like their crypto-Jewish opponents, to establish their own secretive networks based on racial exclusion, and the selection of their own preferred candidates based on ethnic preference.

The stage for this clash was set following the death of the third Superior General, Francisco de Borja, in 1572. Until this date, non-Jewish Jesuits had endured the philo-Semitic leadership of Loyola and the rampant ethnic nepotism of the converso Diego Laínez. Borja was himself described as a “protector of conversos” during periods of rising tension (115). After Borja’s death, it was readily apparent that the crypto-Jewish Jesuit elite had already contrived to select the converso Juan Alphonse de Polanco as his successor. (xxv) Polanco had already been appointed Society secretary by Loyola in 1547, before becoming senior administrator in the general curia in Rome. Incredibly influential, and “the most prominent figure in the Society of Jesus,” his selection should have been “open and shut.” However, as Maryks discusses, by this date “a close-knit anti-converso party [composed mainly of the Jesuit representatives from outside Spain] gained ground within the society.” (xxv)

In spite of the significant pro-converso presence at General Congregation 3 [General Congregations are “the supreme legislative body of the Society of Jesus consisting of major (‘provincial’) superiors and locally elected representatives”], the close-knit Italo-Portuguese lobby gained ground in the assembly and was crafty enough to successfully conspire against Polanco’s election and his pro-converso supporters. (120)

As well as forming a close-knit group based on ethnicity, the counter-strategy mirrored Jewish tactics by appealing for support from elites. The Portuguese delegation led by Leão Henriques “secretly carried to Rome a letter that Henriques’s penitent, Cardinal Infant Henry of Portugal (1512–80), had written to Pope Gregory XIII on 22 January 1573. In it, the Grand Inquisitor of Portugal and future king (1578–80) demanded that neither a converso nor a pro-converso candidate be elected superior general of the Society of Jesus, and he warned that if no measure against the converso evil is taken, the Society would risk destruction.” (121)

Pope Gregory XIII soon disclosed his support for a non-Spanish alternative to Polanco, who, in turn, indicated that he would step aside but refused to prohibit other “Spanish” candidates from being elected superior general. After the congregation opened, Gregory XIII inquired about the procedures of the congregation, about the number of Spaniards among the voters, and about the national background of the previous superiors general. Gregory “remarked that somebody should be chosen from a nation other than Spain, and, in spite of Polanco’s protest against limiting freedom of conscience of the electors, the pope specifically suggested the name of the Walloon Everard Mercurian, then dismissed the delegation with his blessing (122).” Consequently, while the converso Antonio Possevino was “addressing the congregation with an opening discourse, Cardinal Gallio of Como arrived and informed the congregation that he was representing the pope’s will to prevent the election of any Spanish candidate.” (122) The next day the assembly chose Everard Mercurian as the next superior general on the first ballot by a majority of 27 votes.

From the very first years of his office Mercurian proceeded, in his own words, to “cleanse the house.” He “removed from Rome (and possibly from Italy or even Europe) many converso Jesuits.” (123) Polanco, after almost three decades in office, “was moved away from Rome and sent to Sicily, a measure that seemed too harsh even to his major enemy, Benedetto Palmio.” (123)

However, in the aftermath of the removal of crypto-Jews from influence throughout the upper echelons of the Society of Jesus, a new movement emerged within the Spanish Jesuits called the memorialistas or memorialists. The group got its name from ‘memorial,’ which was a literary genre consisting of a written statement of facts presented in conjunction with a petition to a royal or religions authority. The memorialistas gained their name by sending “secret memorials to the Spanish Court and Inquisition, and the Holy See, asking for the reform of the Jesuit Institute, and, especially, for the autonomy of the Spanish Jesuit provinces.” (125–6) These memorials were highly divisive and destructive, seeking essentially to fracture the Society and to allow the conversos to recoup their power base in Spain.

This movement was little more than a damage-limitation exercise by the crypto-Jewish elite. Ousted from Rome, and suspected by the Portuguese, the goal was to consolidate their power in Spain and prevent further anti-converso measures from encroaching on their long-held power positions. As Maryks points out, “it must be admitted that many of its members, if not the majority, were of converso background.” (125) The memorialist movement was certainly widely perceived by contemporaries as a Jewish revenge movement, and Maryks clearly agrees with this perception. One of their key leaders was the converso Dionisio Vázquez, and Maryks remarks that “one could argue that Vázquez’s active role in the memorialistas movement was a sort of revenge for the discriminatory policy of Mercurian.” (126).” The anti-converso Benedetto Palmio “never doubted that conversos were behind the vindictive memoralistas movement.” (128)

As the struggle began to intensify, in 1581 another Italian anti-converso, Claudio Acquaviva, was elected as Mercurian’s successor. Acquaviva appointed a number of leading anti-converso Jesuits (including Manuel Rodrigues, Lorenzo Maggio, and the Rhinelander Paul Hoffaeus) to key positions in Rome, tasked with extending the anti-converso measures employed by Mercurian beyond the Roman power structure and into the wider Jesuit network. Maryks writes that the decade-long activities of Hoffaeus, Maggio, and Rodrigues, “effectively led to gradual restrictions in the admission into the Society of candidates of Jewish ancestry.” (146)

It is particularly interesting that much of this activity was carried out in a cryptic and secretive manner in which the ethnic aspect of the struggle was always kept just out of view — again mirroring the nature of the converso strategies to gain and extend influence. For example, in 1590 Acquaviva sent “secret instructions” to Spanish provincials operated by native Spanish, or ‘Old Christian,’ Jesuits in which he made clear the necessity of secrecy:

In regards to the offices of government, we should be careful not to give them to these people [conversos] in certain key places.… In what regards the admission of this people in order not to give occasion of bitterness to many in the Society, we have judged to be inappropriate to prohibit universally the admission of those who somehow have this defect. It is necessary to use more selectivity and diligence in the admission.… At any rate, [genealogical investigations] should be done quietly and when somebody has to be excluded, it would be convenient to give some other apparent causes and reasons for his dismissal, so that it could not be understood or affirmed with certainty that a person is barred from admission because of his lineage (147).

Faced with bitter responses from within the Spanish Jesuit Order, a few years later Acquaviva’s stance had hardened further, prompting him to issue a decree that those

who are descendants from parents who are recent Christians, routinely and habitually inflicted a great deal of hindrance and harm on the Society (as has become clear from our daily experience)…The entire congregation then decided to decree, as is affirmed by this present decree, that in no case may anyone of this sort, that is to say, one of Hebrew or Saracen stock, be admitted to the Society in the future. And if by error any such person is admitted, he should be dismissed as soon as the impediment is revealed, at whatever time before profession this occurs, after first notifying the superior general and awaiting his reply. (149)

Maryks states that at this point “the lineage-hunting season began,” and the removal of all persons of Jewish ancestry from the Society of Jesus commenced in earnest.

Early Modern Jewish Apologetics

Defeated and marginalized, the crypto-Jewish elite turned to issuing a long series of memorials that in many respects resemble prototypes of modern Jewish apologetics/propaganda of the kind issued by the ADL. For example, in a previous essay I noted the importance of the modern tactic of rhetorically displacing ‘foreignness’ away from Jews and onto the hostile movement itself:

Jews have regularly relied upon a fall-back tactic of presenting the troublesome movement as a foreign import…An excellent example of this, of course, would be Hillary Clinton’s ludicrous claim that the Alt Right has somehow been spawned by Putin’s Russia. Since most of her speech originated with the SPLC, we may assume that this particular accusation may be traced to a Hebraic hand. Another bizarre theory of the Alt Right’s foreign origins originating with the SPLC: Mark Potok has weighed in with the strange contention that the Alt Right “began as an anti-Muslim movement in Europe and has been spreading in this country since about 2008.”

And the list goes on. UK-based Jewish journalist Jonathan Freedland, who has a long history of activism against Whites, has penned an article titled “Donald Trump’s achilles heel is that he is truly un-American.” Freedland argues that America’s founding principle is “the belief that national identity did not reside in blood or soil, but in loyalty to the nation’s constitution and its bill of rights”—a clear indication that he has little acquaintance with American history. He continues that, “these moves by Trump are not just reactionary or bigoted or dangerous. They contradict the ideals that all Americans are meant to regard as sacred. Perhaps this is the way to attack Trump: as truly un-American. He says he wants to make America great again. The truth is, he would stop America being America.”

Further Jewish participants in the effort to portray Trump as un-American include but are not limited to: the editorial board of the Washington Post led by the Jewish Martin Baron; the Jewish journalist Franklin Foer; and Jewish talk show host Jerry Springer. Jewish businessman Josh Tetrick also purchased a number of expensive full-page ad spaces in the New York Times aimed at pushing the ‘Trump as un-American’ meme…In all cases, both Trumpism and the Alt Right are portrayed by Jews as a foreign incursion into American political life. As with other tactics, these have a long lineage. Kevin MacDonald writes that “Jewish organizations in Germany in the period 1870–1914 argued that anti-Semitism was a threat to all of Germany because it was fundamentally ‘un-German.’’”[5]K. MacDonald, Separation and Its Discontents: Toward and Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism (1st Books, 2004), 232. In nineteenth-century Germany, anti-Semitism was often described by Jews as a French import. Conversely, Paula Hyman writes that, faced with a rise in anti-Jewish feeling in nineteenth-century France, Jews spread the message that anti-Semitism was “un-French” and a “German import.”[6]A. Lindemann & R. Levy (eds.), Antisemitism: A History (Oxford University Press, 2010), 136. Thorsten Wagner reports that it was a common refrain among Jews in Denmark that anti-Semitism there was “a German import — without autochthonous roots and traditions.”[7]T. Wagner,’Belated Heroism: The Danish Lutheran Church and the Jews, 1918-1945,’ in K. Spicer (ed), Antisemitism, Christian Ambivalence, and the Holocaust (Indiana University Press, 2007), 7.

There are countless more examples from countless other countries. The tactic therefore relies on convincing the population that Jews are not the foreign threat but rather that it is the growing volkisch movement that is the foreign entity threatening the nation. Although it’s an absurdly perverse claim, and hard to imagine as being successful, Jews are able to spread the message because of their superior media and political power (as seen with Tetrick’s efforts). This power has ensured that portrayals of nationalist movements as ‘foreign’ have been tactically effective in the past.

Crypto-Jewish Jesuit responses to the European counter-strategy are strikingly similar to these modern instances in that they also heavily relied on attempts to displace the sense of foreign threat away from themselves and onto the movement hostile to their interests. For example, the most ferocious and prolific written responses to the ousting of the conversos were penned by the converso and high-ranking Italian diplomat Antonio Possevino, who had been removed from office by Mercurian and sent to remote Sweden. Isolated and powerless in the cold north, Possevino declared that it was figures like Benedetto Palmio who were truly ‘un-Christian’ and in fact little more than “pagans (164–5).” Remarkably, and with much chutzpah, Possevino attributed all of the disruption within the Society of Jesus to the “overweening ambition of the Portuguese Jesuits (171–2).” Possevino blatantly lied in his propaganda about the nature of the memorialistas, suggesting the movement was part of a “Portuguese conspiracy” to undermine Jesuit unity (171–2). Maryks comments bluntly on Possevino’s text that the majority of memorialists were in fact “undeniably conversos.” (172) Finally, Possevino’s apologetics also contain another aspect that prefigures modern propaganda — the idea that Jews are a natural and moral elite, typically combined with contempt for the rural masses. Possevino blamed “envious and talentless men from poor, rural backgrounds” (168) for the agitation against the conversos, while asserting that “in terms of their virtue and dedication, [conversos] represent an elite within the Society.” (172)

Conclusion

The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews is an important contribution to the study of religion and ethnic conflict in early modern Spain. Although not suited for beginners to any of the themes under discussion, the book is concise, and its four chapters are filled with new information sure to fascinate the reader with some prior knowledge of the Jesuits, Spanish history, or the Jewish Question in Europe.

My only real criticisms rest on matters of style and structure. Maryks’ writing style is often mechanical, and one sometimes feels that, while the material lends itself to a dramatic narrative, that potential is lost amid bland observations and repetitive recourse to lamenting the “bias” and “discrimination” of the “Old Christians.” Certainly this is a book in which the facts, rather than the author’s analysis, lead the way. As regards structure, the text has an irritating habit of repetition, particularly in terms of persistently re-introducing characters we would already be familiar with. I found this especially disappointing because of a normally high quality of editing from Brill.

These minor irritations aside, The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews was a page-turner. Perhaps best of all, it’s now been made available to download for free as part of Brill’s open source initiative. Enjoy.

References

[1] See Kevin Ingram, Secret lives, public lies: The conversos and socio-religious non-conformism in the Spanish Golden Age. Ph.D. Thesis (San Diego: University of California, 2006), pp. 87–8.

[2] Quoted in Maryks, The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews, p.xx.

[3] W. Caferro, Contesting the Renaissance (Oxford:Wiley-Blackwell, 2010), p.158.

[4] M. Baigent & R. Leigh, The Inquisition (London: Viking Press, 1999), pp.75-6.

[5] K. MacDonald, Separation and Its Discontents: Toward and Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism (1st Books, 2004), 232.

[6] A. Lindemann & R. Levy (eds.), Antisemitism: A History (Oxford University Press, 2010), 136.

[7] T. Wagner,’Belated Heroism: The Danish Lutheran Church and the Jews, 1918-1945,’ in K. Spicer (ed), Antisemitism, Christian Ambivalence, and the Holocaust (Indiana University Press, 2007), 7.

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  1. Dan Hayes says:

    I had previously read this most interesting article in The Occidental Observer. It will likewise be interesting to see the response generated when and if, as I suspect, that Ron brings it forward as a “Current Feature”.

    And a Happy and Prosperous New Year to Ron, the UR, and all its denizens!

  2. utu says:

    Very interesting. Too bad that the books is badly written. What I found missing is information on demography of conversos in Spain. Presumably after 1492 there were no Jews left in Spain. Those who did not leave converted. It is safe to assume that 100 years later there were no conversos left only children of conversos which technically were no longer conversos. So the question arises where did the Spanish converses come from after 1592?

    • Replies: @Alden
  3. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Joke:
    The Dominican order (Order of Preachers) was founded to fight Albigensianism.

    The Jesuit order (Society of Jesus) was founded to fight Protestantism.

    Punchline:
    When’s the last time you met an Albigensian?

  4. llloyd says: • Website

    The Jesuit Order began it seems as a Jewish movement that returned to a primitive Jesus movement. After all, the origin of the word Jesuit is Jesus. Its leaders and ideologues were Jews, mostly or philo Jews. Then as it grew in popularity, it was swallowed up by its Goy followers. They in reaction became anti- Semites. That sounds a repeat of primitive Christianity. It too was started by Jews under Jewish leader Jesus. Its first Roman Bishop was Saint Peter. His successor was a Greek. This process of de-Judaification began about fifty years after foundation of Jesuit Order. Same as time period of Gospel of Saint John after foundation of Christianity.

    • Replies: @Alden
  5. El Dato says:

    Well okay.

    I’m not entirely convinced that this is more than a litany of ancient moaning and demands for “social justice” inside the Jesuit order, a society not known either for straightforwardness, honesty or openness, indeed being busy “saving the souls” in the South American colonies, if you know what I mean.

    In the end it’s vague accusations which assume that Jews have an otherness that sets them preternaturally apart from the rest (do they have some kind of software virus?)

    Predominant among their concerns was the Jewish tendency towards monopoly, nepotism, arrogance, aggressive ambition, and an air of insincerity in the practice of Christianity.

    Hardly “qualities” confined to Jews, converted, crypto or otherwise. Unless one redefines people exhibiting these qualities as Jews.

    Note that “monopoly” is a special feature of state-managed economies, this would be a misfeature to lay at the feet of the Royal House of Spain (rapacious idiots anyway). Why is it in that list?

    In the end, it comes down to “what is a Jew” (where is the fish, where is the water?) and “what do Jews want” (do they have some special multi-generational goal, a Human Instrumentality Project?). Vague accusations of disloyalty (to what?), striving at being #1, having backchannels and kissing upwards to expedite advancements, or demanding sympathy is not egregious behaviour. This is why “Early Modern Jewish Apologetics” is not particularly enlightening.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @ben tillman
  6. Seraphim says:

    With my own permission I reproduce my comments made on TOO:
    @the wife of this Bishop of Burgos remained an unconverted Jewess

    Apparently, Jews do not fully agree with that assertion.
    “Halevi’s two brothers and his sister, as well as his five children, were also baptized at the same time. Only some time later, however, did his wife, Joanna, decide to join them”.
    read more: https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/this-day-in-jewish-history/.premium-1.613045
    “At first his wife refused to follow his example, but she accepted baptism a few years later”
    @http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/pablo-de-santa-maria
    Anyhow, it is doubtful that after his ordination he remained married.

    Paul of Burgos is reviled to this day by the Jews:
    “This Day in Jewish History / Rabbi Turned Archbishop and Jew Hater Dies. Paul of Burgos, born Solomon Halevi, came to serve the court at the highest levels and to embitter the lives of his former people”.
    ‘As an apostate Jew, Paul was active in encouraging other Jews to convert, and in making their lives bitter so long as they didn’t. As chancellor, he was the moving spirit behind a edict, introduced in 1412, that greatly restricted the ability of Jews to move around and to engage in commerce – unless they were willing to undergo baptism’.
    read more: https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/this-day-in-jewish-history/.premium-1.613045

    “Could we think that there were not also really genuine conversions? That many Jews had their ‘road of Damascus’ moment?
    This is not to deny that the Catholic Church was infiltrated and subverted by ‘Marranos’ and even much earlier than believed.”

  7. El Dato says:
    @El Dato

    Take Microsoft for example. It has all the negative qualities required for being Jewish (except having a synagogue on-campus), including being a sharp-practices stab-partners-in-the-back monopoly that moans about being so…so misunderstood while pushing negative externalities (lack of security and crap, lackluster, crippled, me-too products) to its customers that it makes pay through the nose for the privilege, if necessary pestering them with “license audits or else”. But is it?

    • Replies: @Antlitz Grollheim
  8. The double lives (some?) jews led, maybe they still do, are excellently described in
    Abba Eban, ‘An Autobiography’, 1977, New York
    He was Israel’s first UN ambassador, if I remember correctly.
    He describes his youth, from Monday until Friday evening a normal British schoolboy, from Friday evening until Sunday evening, often until Monday morning, a jew being taught judaism by his grandfather.
    When the grandfather died, and he was free in the weekends, he felt guilty.

  9. Stunning stuff.

    Many thanks to the author.

    • Replies: @gT
  10. Alden says:
    @utu

    Jewish historians claim that Spanish Jews just went underground, practicing Catholicism in public and passing on their Jewish heritage to their children at home.

  11. Alden says:
    @llloyd

    That’s the theory of this writer.

    Who knows if it’s true or not.

  12. Alden says:

    Off topic a bit

    The Jew Tom Speyer is running a TV ad asking everyone to sign his petition to impeach President Trump.

    • Replies: @Anon
  13. Brabantian says: • Website

    Fascinating book review and topic from Andrew Joyce above … raising the idea that opposition to narrow influence by Jewish factions, is sometimes most effective by other ethnic groups using similar techniques

    This supports a recently popular theme, that the groups growingly rivalling the Jewish group influence structures, are the Chinese and Hindu (and also Vietnamese etc) ethnic influence groups, very quietly building and deploying their own ethnic networks … the process seen for example in the way that Asian students are beginning to dominate USA elite university admissions, and in USA and Canadian economic life

    The Chinese, Hindus etc are not in open polemic or ‘debate’ re Jewish influence as are European and Anglo heritage whites or Muslims … such polemics are, to them, far less clever than quietly acting in concert with your own ethnic ‘mafia’, and assembling wealth and power for the future

    Striking how speaking of Jewish mafias and Jewish influence groups is said to be ‘anti-Semitic’, yet media in Europe and elsewhere still speak casually of Italian mafias, Albanian mafias etc

    Regarding Hindu and Chinese groups, they also seem to have a particular immunity to being swayed by Jewish-sponsored or Western-oligarch-sponsored ideological movements, the ones that ‘cuck’ white people

    Like Jewish groups, Chinese and Hindus adapt flexibly to local power structures, with even fewer ‘radicals’ who are or appear to be in opposition to those structures, as happens with Jews, who tend to be both ‘court Jews’ for rulers / oligarchs but also ‘opposition’ leaders (fake opposition at times)

    Like Jewish groups, Asian groups have a very high IQ profile … East Asians being even higher than Jews on average, and other groups having high-IQ segments in their diaspora … this is often accented by an Asian hard-work profile matched by no one else, hence Jews are losing the USA elite university primacy

    Chinese, Indians and other Asians, draw on civilisations thousands of years old, and inherently, their social practices and thinking are much less swayed by Western ideological movements such as SJW social justice warriorism, feminist and LGBT movements, obsession with anti-racism, anti-bias virtue signalling etc … tho of course, when resident in the West they take care not to speak or publish in a non-approved way … but Asians quietly retain their ethnic-identity, plus traditionalist etc viewpoints which they pass on wholesale to their children

    As Chinese, Hindus and many other Asians are usually not Christian, they are also quite immune to Jewish arguments about being a ‘chosen people’ etc … they can see the Bible as a largely tribal book about a tribal warrior-god, another example of a common genre, with nothing special of import for themselves … Jews are a rival ethnic group, period, whose tactics are observed and sometimes mimicked

    On a private spoken level, Asians will at times express astonishment at the way that European-descended whites, distinctively in the world, do so little to act in ethnic-mafia ways for their own group benefit, in the way that seems natural for most other ethnic peoples … and that something seems strange in the willingness of Euro-whites to ‘cuck’ against their own interests

  14. On a literary note, perhaps this helps explain why the Jesuit priest character in Evelyn Waugh’s 1930 novel “Vile Bodies” is named “Father Rothschild?”

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/35997-don-t-you-think-said-father-rothschild-gently-that-perhaps-it

    • Replies: @Cortes
    , @utu
  15. polskijoe says:

    I have had mixed feelings on Jesuits for a long time.

    They apparently played a role in the Polish-Lithuanian alliance (a sort of “tolerant” alliance of many religions). We see this pattern with todays EU. Although I think there are stronger players involved with the latter.

    The Catholic elites went through various conflicts over a long time,
    Jesuits too had their Jewish vs Gentile fights.

    One poster above mentioned what is a Jew? A good question indeed. No universal definition.

    Another mentioned ethnic groups. But not all Christian groups view Jews as chosen people, and fall for that propaganda. Clearly the conservative Catholic groups like in Poland, Croatia, and Orthodox Christians like Russia, never fell for it. Not sure on the details but I think the Knights of Malta and/or Opus Dei are more concerned with the JQ.

    How hard is to remove the Judaism (whether its Torah, Talmud, or other Kaballah) and confirm an actual conservos who is legimite?

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  16. mp says:
    @Brabantian

    Just score it and see whether Jews can compete with Chinese:

    Chinese are not affected by the H-word, and therefore cannot be guiltily manipulated over it. In fact, they have their own N-word (Nanking), O-word (Opium War), and C-word (Colonialism). Chinese would never give money to Jews because some German guy didn’t like them. Advantage, China.

    Chinese have demonstrated an ability to create and sustain high culture. Jews have not, but exist parasitically within another’s culture. Advantage, China.

    Jews pretty much look White. So they can pretty much fit in, and play the Fellow White Card when it is to their advantage. Chinese look pretty much like…well, they look Chinese. Advantage Jew in White countries, but no advantage for Jews in Asian countries.

    Jews are tribal, and always think first and foremost about what’s in it for them. Chinese are the same. Advantage–tie.

    Jews control Western media and work to dispossess Whites by pushing the Negrofication and multiculturalization of the West. Chinese control Chinese media, and work to keep Negroes, and pretty much anyone who is not Chinese, off the tube. Advantage, China.

    Jews have a hefty neurosis about them. Chinese tend to be introspective. Advantage, China. Unless mental illness is ipso facto an advantage.

    Jewish women tend to be obnoxious, loud, and demanding. They aren’t particularly fond of White men. Chinese women tend to be reserved, quiet, and demanding. They tend to go for White guys. Advantage, China, but with reservations.

    Jewish mom versus Tiger Mom? Toss up.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Frankie P
    , @Anonymous
  17. Jake says:

    There is a great deal of truth in this. And it explains a great deal. But it does not explain everything.

    For example, I think it goes a long way toward explaining why some Jesuits working in India and farther East began, in the late 17th century, to use their studies of native cultures to argue for something that was rather clearly a path into an Age of Enlightenment universalism. Jews always back anything that will undermine Trinitarianism. And they seem to do it instinctively.

    But it does not explain how the order was kept rather fiercely on track theologically and culturally even through its suppression. I think that was accomplished by Catholic culture itself, backed with the power of Catholic monarchs. That was the old, deep cultural foundation of Christendom, and it held things fast that in a revolutionary time and order could be swept away. If that is the case, then it also explains why Jews were nearly universal in backing the Reformation and democratic revolutions to topple monarchies, at least to make them bow to elected assemblies, which always were led by men whose justifications were anything but honoring and retaining the full heritage of Christendom.

    Something else that should be studied is the importance of Prussia’s Frederick the Great giving aid and comfort, and protected shelter, to suppressed Jesuits. Frederick the Great was as Queer as Queer gets, in that uniquely Berlin fashion, and he was a sneering atheist who saw Jews as his allies, as well as a military genius with a deep bloodlust. How much of Frederick’s utter contempt for the heritage of Christendom, his respect for, even love of, atheist/agnostic Enlightenment thinkers, his pro-Jewish attitudes, and his Gayness infected the Jesuits?

    I’d say a good deal of it all was imbibed by the Jesuit leadership, if not more generally. The Jesuit Order Part 2 was Liberal from its start, and it has kept moving Leftward ever since.

  18. Jake says:
    @Anonymous

    Well, the Protestant world, as well as the New Age types, feature many people as religious/cultural leaders who hold views that Albigensians would have approved. And more than a few contemporary Jesuits, and habit-free nuns, would fall into the same category.

    But that also makes the point of the joke.

  19. Frankie P says:
    @mp

    You forgot one: Population

    Chinese: China: 1,412,208,243
    Overseas: 50,000,000

    Jews (2016): Israel: 6,336,400
    US: 5,700,000
    Other: 2,374,300

    Advantage: CHINA

    • Replies: @Wally
  20. Bryan says:

    I’ve come to think the Reconquista is an under-appreciated area of study and that there is quite a lot to learn from the entire time period.

    • Replies: @Andy Byron
    , @Silva
  21. denise says:

    Funny, when I looked up the definition for Jesuit, in my dictionary, I found it located between “jester” and “Jesus”.

  22. Malla says:

    A must watch

    Truth Hertz: The Jesuit Order

    • Troll: Zumbuddi
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  23. +1 and +1 and +1 to Illoyd, El Dato and polskijoe above.

    It’s a peculiar feature of a strain of Protestantism to look at converts of any kind (European pagan, South American, Caribbean, Jewish) to Catholicism and intuit an obvious cause-effect between the convert and the subsequent policies of Catholicism, but who intuits none of the same when the conversion is to any other form of Christianity.

    There is a recent article by a Jewish professor of his newly adopted view of Jesuits as not unfriendly to Judaism where the whole reason the article is worthy of existing is that its Jewish audience presumes generations-long Jesuit hostility to Judaism.

    We have real problems. The United States of America was constituted because Old World Hates were not working to solve Old World Problems. With that in mind note a commenter’s “joke” above about the Dominicans and Albigensians. That was an Old World Solution, joke notwithstanding. I’ve often thought our modern world likely poorer for loss of the Bogomils.

    Jesuits in many ways both set an example and disappoint, but if you are concerned your children won’t be able to compete toe to toe academically with their Jewish peers there is a sure fire remedy that will assure their market fitness and leave them so busy with success and filled with nobler pursuits that they’ll have little time to fuss or worry about Jews: get them a Jesuit education.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @silviosilver
  24. denise says:

    And I couldn’t finish reading the Prodigal Son either, “Why does the gay man see such goodness in the picture, when I only see evil?” :(
    The Catholic Church is plagued with way too many people not of the faith who have their own agenda.

    • Replies: @Bill
  25. @Anonymous

    Simply survey the contemporary book industry’s offerings on Cathars/Catharism (fiction and non-fiction) and you will see the intense interest today in what you are calling Albigensianism. The bookshop at the Papal Palace in Avignon is full of adoring titles on the Cathars, in French and English.

  26. This article seems to deliberately blur the distinction between genuine Christians of Jewish ancestry and fake Christians who continued to practice Jewish rituals in secret.

  27. @James Kabala

    One might think that the fact that a group of Christians of Jewish ancestry devoted their lives to the promotion of the faith should instead be considered a great Christian success story.

  28. anarchyst says:

    The “beginning of the end” of Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants.
    Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their “dirty work” for them…
    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Cardinal Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize celebration of pre-Vatican II principles.

  29. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I understand a lot now about how subversive Jews are and how they always act to undermine other cultures.

    But the question is, how are they stopped?

    Who has successfully stopped the Jews and how did they do it?

  30. jean says:

    Before jesuits the great inquisitors Torquemada and Ferrer of jewish ancestry were the most rutless against “marranos”, renegade jews.

  31. Iberiano says:

    After years of research on my presumably Scots, Scots-Irish and Spanish, ancestry, many of whom are counted among the very first colonists in the US, and after coupling it with the latest in DNA tests, I can only conclude that many of my ancestors, whether “direct” Conversos from Spain who fled to the Old Spanish parishes of Louisiana, or the very Scots-British settlers of VA, NC and SC (esp the latter)–were hidden Jews.

    They almost all are from the same Maternal Haplogroup as Jews of Spain, Portugal, Morocco, Algeria, and curiously enough–Ireland and Scotland (K1c)–finding exact matches in places like Ireland, yet also Tunisia, along the maternal line–which oddly, correlates with the FEMALE (only) line of many Ashkenazis who are also K1′s. Dr. Doron Behar has studied the bottleneck extensively, and it appears that, consistent with what we know of documented history, many Jews indeed fled, to France, Holland and Scotland (more than England)…some became Huguenots in France, others Reformed Dutch, and others Scots-Presbyterians that settled the Old South (South Carolina, and Tidewater Virginia).

    While some have poked fun at Donald Panther-Yates and Elizabeth Hirschman (Books: Jews and Muslims in British Colonial America; When Scotland was Jewish), the DNA seems to suggest they may be right, at least in part. Or, at least, the scattered tribes theory is correct, predating the Iberian diaspora–intimating ancient Hebrews, carrying the K1 (mt-DNA) traveled and settled in the British Isles as “Celts”. We know there are ancient Syrian (female) remains who have been tested and are K1′s.

    And yet, here I am, a born and bred Southerner, with an entire family of 130+ IQs, Ivy League educations, and the DNA of other Jews around the world–and all the same dysfunctions who find in Jews, same interests, humor, pathological issues. Each of my siblings have all had multiple moments in our separate lives, when even when in our normal routine conduct, some Jew will ask us, “Are you SURE you’re not Jewish? Because you seem really Jewish…wow you were raised Southern Baptist???? WOW” etc. It’s in the blood. I did not used to believe it. But it is.

  32. Iberiano says:
    @Anonymous

    (We) I was stopped through the power of Jesus Christ, my LORD and Savior.

  33. Iberiano says:
    @James Kabala

    @James Kabala:

    I am genuine Christians of Jewish ancestry, and anyone who practices Judaism (the “Law”, which is basically 100 percent Rabbinical), in secret or whatever, is not going to be saved or have any reward from our Father in Heaven. No ONE, not ONE can keep the law. Jesus is our Law. Jesus Christ is our everything–and any Jew that has heard the Good News, but passes up on it, is missing out on the bread of life.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  34. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Who has successfully stopped the Jews and how did they do it?

    Nobody’s been successful.

    The Jew Jesus was nailed to a cross and buried, but he came back to life.

    6 million Jews were put in gas chambers then cremated and buried or buried and then cremated, but within a few years, 10-12 million Jews claimed to be survivors of this treatment.

    • Replies: @polskijoe
  35. @Anonymous

    It’s super easy. Two steps:

    1) Look up Borderline Personality Disorder – study the feature of BPD called “splitting” – like a good college professor understand you probably don’t understand something until it’s been explained to you (or you’ve studied it) from three perspectives … so make really, really sure that you understand what splitting is, and why it’s so pathological

    2) Don’t make it about race

    Notice:
    #2: is not, “race does not exist”, or “there are no racial issues” or “there are no ‘racial truths’” … it is a socio-political strategy: do, not, make, it, about, race.

    Because notice:
    The people who want to make it about race who are otherwise sophisticated, could easily make it about culture, but they choose not to, as their priority isn’t constructing good culture, their priority is destroying something they don’t like (i.e.: they hate) – they are splitting.

    And the people on the other side who perhaps conceal a real anti-cultural or anti-ethnic ethos against you, would be entirely neutered, if you made it about culture – so they – your presumed enemies, are none-to-eager to show you the way, and all the willing instead to let you go astray, and let you make it about race because if you succumb to the serpent and bite that fruit: you give them casus belli. You provide a self-confirming hypothesis to them: Splitting.

    Don’t split.
    Build.
    If you hear two sides, mortally opposed, and both of them have the same solution: destroy – and neither of them offers the solution – build, some kind of soul-level BS detector should be firing up inside of you.
    Listen to it.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  36. Zumbuddi says:
    @Malla

    Don’t waste your time, the speaker is a mediocre hack — not even a skilled hack.

  37. ANONYMOUS • Disclaimer says:

    This may be a stupid question but didn’t Katholic priests, also Jesuits then, NOT have children?
    But Jewish religious leaders always had children.
    How can a “lineage” hide in the Katholic Church, if they don’t have children?
    And why would there be be this obsession with pure blood, if one could not pass it on, anyway?

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @norse nestor
    , @Bill
  38. lavoisier says: • Website

    I have not read the article yet. But I surely will.

    But honestly, how many articles like this are published anywhere but the Unz Review?

    I am always challenged on this site with ideas I have never considered.

    Many thanks to Ron Unz to allow these interesting perspectives to be shared.

  39. gT says:
    @jacques sheete

    Agreed, truly magnificent article. So the Catholics were able to resist crypto-Jewish infiltration, up till 1946 at least when they let their guard down probably due to war fatigue, and then the result was Vatican 2. The Vatican bank was created during that same 1940′s period. But Islam was definitely not able to get rid of its crypto-Jews. Sunni Muslims are still ruled by the crypto-Jewish House of Saud. But then again it was Great Britain’s WASP’s (100% crypto-Jews) who influenced matters post WW1 in that region.

    One positive crypto-Jewish action though was by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. He was nationalistic Turkish first and crypto-Jewish very far behind second. He saved Turkey from utter destruction post WW1 and modernized Turkey. But to this day one can never be too sure where Turkey really stands on any matter, their stance fluctuates too often due to the dna in their elite.

    So the Jews aren’t strictly a white phenomena, they infiltrated potential powers everywhere hoping to gain ascendency everywhere. 100% parasite. Its only now that they have the multi-national companies to use for global domination (multi-nationals can govern, police, wage war, tax, engage in espionage, just like normal Governments) that they don’t really need whites no more so want to get rid of whites. So its a thanks for the assist, but you are no longer necessary :-)

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @anonymous
  40. @Ron Unz wherever you are:

    I do not want to believe you give a tenth a penny’s credit to the substance, content or animus of this article. I want to believe that you are providing a sophisticated meta-service of shining a light into a dark corner so that the world can know just what evil is festering on account of a mainstream collective refusal to face up to uncomfortable facts. The danger with shining a light into sink holes like this is that you have to remove the manhole cover and when you do that some of the fester gets out and sometimes people fall in, so your meta-service, while necessary, is risky.

    If it is the latter and this is a metaservice, you have it in your power to build and where I also have that power the difference between you and I is that your power may be decisive where mine is merely micro-incremental, so I would like to suggest just how you might leverage your greater power in a way that might offset the risk.

    Please watch 10-20 hours of the YouTube channel Red Ice. If you are a decent person, despite the volumes of interesting content and the high production values, somewhere between 10 and 20 hours you will have to stop because you will feel a need to vomit.

    The reason you will feel the need to vomit is that you will recognize the material for the toxic brew that it is, namely:

    1) Combining all that is familial, cultural, ethnically-warm and wholesome about our genuine, real, abundant and too often ignored and forgotten ancient, European heritage, and…
    2) Race baiting propaganda that rises to level of Triumph of the Will

    And, being a decent person you will know two things:

    1) If gullible but hurting people were so inspired by this propaganda and agreed to “make it about race” then they are enlisted with Pied Pipers to join in a suicidal race war

    2) As regards everything warm, familial, ethnic, cultural, honorable, ancient and deep about the culture Red Ice’s producers are appropriating …

    … all of that is in the power of the self-same promoters to teach their viewers to make-it-about-culture, make-it-about-family, make-it-about-their-people.

    And that is all decent people have to do to stand up.

    Say:
    We (emphasis for Americans: “we”, not “I”) … We are Italian, and we have a right to exist, together, as Italians
    We are German, and we have a right to exist, together, as Germans
    We are Swedes, and we have a right to exist, together, as Swedes
    We are Belgian, and we have a right to exist, together, as Beglians
    We are Spanish, and we have a right to exist, together, as Spanish

    We are Italian, German, Swedish, etc. Diaspora, and we have right to embrace the culture of our Fatherlands and exist, together, as Italian, German, Swedish, etc.

    We … as people … are people, not just persons, we are people, and we have a right to embrace with love and acceptance the cultures of those we admire, who will reciprocally accept us as their own

    We have a right to exist, as a people.

    And:
    When others accuse those who stand together as such, as racists, as haters, as bigots, etc. … the answer is to join arms and stand together – and really stand together – as a people – sacrifice for one another (listen: Americans). Do that and their accusations will pass over like so much hot air.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  41. Jake says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    “I’ve often thought our modern world likely poorer for loss of the Bogomils.”

    Then you are ignorant, stupid, or perverse.

    The fruits of the ideas behind the specific Bogomil movement, which ideas are ancient, are with us today. They are part and parcel of Modernism.

  42. @anarchyst

    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more.

    Your post was excellent up until this part, about which you seem to be extremely deluded.

    The only reason that priestly celibacy is not Church dogma is because there is no technical sense in which the sacrament of Holy Orders could not be conferred upon a married man. If the Church were to affirm otherwise it would be affirming something incorrect, and that it cannot do.

    The idea that celibacy was imposed as a way to prevent nepotism is something of a canard. For one thing, there is nothing inherently wrong with priestly offices and lands being inherited property, as they often were in the Orthodox Church. This in fact solves many problems and results in a certain kind of stability, although it is not without complications of its own. But even on the erroneous assumption that the Church imposed this discipline for purely practical reasons, how then can you coherently argue that the discipline should be relaxed today? If it was necessary then, presumably it would also be necessary now.

    The truth of the matter is that virginity is beautiful celibacy is one of the Evangelical Councils recommended by Christ the Lord to those who could receive it, and it would be a shame if the priesthood failed to practice it to any significant degree.

  43. @Anonymous

    When did you last meet an Albigensian?
    Wasn’t it the Albigensian Crusade that gave us “Kill them all, God will know his own”?

  44. AaronB says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s a cycle. Jews rise, fall, then rise again.

    How do you stop them? The tactics themselves depend entirely on deceit (crypsis) to be effective – once you’re aware of what’s going, they are powerless. You can just laugh at them.

    And this is how the cycle works – people are naive and unsuspecting, and the tactics work and Jews grow powerful. Then people figure out what’s going on, and Jews fall.

    People forget, and the cycle repeats.

    The tactics themselves, as described by McDonald and a growing number of observers aren’t really very impressive and don’t require much brain power.

    What they require are 1) An unsuspecting victim acting in good faith 3) great acting skills – this is hugely important and not emphasized enough 3) good understanding of psychology based on extensively studying it. Jewish culture is steeped in psychology.

    These are social skills – which is why there are great Jewish law firms (acting and psychology), but Germans build great cars.

    So there you have it – an easy or distracted mark, great acting skills and psychological instincts honed over time.

    While I reject the idea that Jews are a psychopathic race and don’t think it’s genetic, they have culturally specialized in manipulation, and studying psychopathy can shed useful light on Jewish behavior. But the analogy mustnt be taken too far.

    How to stop them? One way is to learn from them and become like them. Steve Sailor is someone who is trying to do this.

    But if whites specialize in social tactics, white culture would seriously change.

    Does anyone really want this? People may envy Jewish power, but does anyone really want to be like them? Aside from their power, does anyone really admire or envy them? They are a rather miserable and joyless people, rather to be pitied, and in my view are in urgent need of a moral and psychological regeneration.

    They need to be fought, but all men of good will may hope and pray for their future rehabilitation however far off such a future may be.

    No hatred – awareness, countermeasures, yes. But no hatred.

    Simply being aware of their behavior and attacks will remove one major source of their success without which they can do nothing.

    Every manipulator needs an unsuspecting mark.

    Also, I can’t emphasize enough that any white resistance to Jews would depend on the prior moral and psychological regeneration of white culture.

    As I said above the white specialization in abstraction made them vulnerable to moral and psychological attack.

    In essence, whites forfeited the moral, emotional, and psychological level to their enemies by specializing entirely in abstract thinking and creating a culture dominated by abstract, a-moral, a-emotional systems like science, capitalism, technology, etc.

    The extent to which white culture is dominated by abstract systems is remarkable – and this neglect of the emotional and psychological side has resulted in tremendous weaknesses that are becoming impossible to ignore. The hour is late.

    What I am looking for in white culture is any sign of a return to the emotional and psychological sides of man – which are after all the basis of all motivation – and I am very sorry to say I am not really seeing it.

    The alt-right remains captive to typically abstract and a-moral Western systems like HBD, capitalism, science, etc, and seems at the same time to want to emulate Jews and specialize in social tactics, which is incoherent.

    Ultimately, the alt-right is another expression of modernity in its typical modern devotion to abstract systems and neglect of the moral and emotional – when what is needed is the overcoming of modernity.

    What is needed is something new.

  45. Jake says:
    @Anonymous

    Jews will never stop trying to pervert any Christian society in which they live, because to be Jewish is to be anti-Christ. And because of the Incarnation, the flesh of Jesus is Jewish, as is that of His Mother, the Mother of God, the Mother of all Christians. That means that Christians cannot do what Nazis decided to try: exterminate Jews, at least from a huge territory they ruled.

    There re successful examples of Christian kingdoms keeping Jews on a short leash so they could not continually cheat and pervert Christian citizens. But Original Sin means that the envious and covetous (of King or Royal family or Pope or Cardinals or classic learning, etc.), the bastards and younger sons, the sodomites and whoremongers, the secretly agnostic/atheist/unitarian/universalist, etc. will always gravitate to Jews and make alliance to attack key parts of traditional culture.

    Joseph Stalin, for example. sent to prepare for seminary, quickly found Jewish friends who indulged his rebellious heart right toward becoming a monster for the ages.

    Jews did not cause that. Young Stalin choosing rebellion against Christ chose Jewish friends precisely because they were anti-Christ.

    Here is what not only cannot corral Jews but actually promotes their worst instincts: culture born of a Judaizing heresy.

    Anglo-Saxon Puritanism was a Judiazing hersy. WASP culture is the fruit of Judaizing heresy.

  46. @Jake

    Ever read the Old Testament?

    You can buy it from an online Christian supplier today. Lots of interesting ideas in there.

    And of course if you don’t like someone’s ideas the obvious solution is to exterminate them like they did the Albigensians.
    Or,correct me if I’m wrong here: was that not your point?

    Please clarify: are you , or are you not, advocating genocide?
    And if it isn’t your point, what is your point?

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  47. I wonder whether crypto-Jews had any significant presence in the Jesuit order outside Spain, and if so, for how long. The thought that they may have done is suggested by a number of events in the seventeenth century – the most suggestive of which was an episode in which Harlay de Champvallon, archbishop of Paris during the reign of Louis XIV, ordered his diocesan priests to say masses for the conversion of the Jesuits to the True Faith. Before reading this piece I assumed Harlay’s order was simply an exercise of prelatical frustration with the Jesuits, but this piece raises the question – was it meant to propagate the innuendo that the Jesuits were crypto-Jews?

    Another strange episode involving seventeenth-century Jesuits was the attempted poisoning of the Emperor Leopold I in 1670 by means of candles impregnated with arsenic. Called to diagnose a lingering illness suffered by the Emperor, the physician G.F. Borri observed that a peculiar smoke emitted from the lighted candles in the Emperor’s chambers. He cut apart one of the candles and extracted the wick, which he shredded and mixed with some meat scraps, the mixture then being fed to a dog, which promptly died. Subsequent analysis showed the candles’ wicks to be saturated with white arsenic. Upon enquiring into the source of the candles, Borri was informed that they were a gift of the Jesuit procurator in Vienna, specially “consecrated” by the Jesuit order for the Emperor’s use, and marked with a gold fillet around the top to distinguish them. When Imperial authorities sought the procurator, it transpired that he had fled the city.

    What might have been the motive for the poisoning of the Emperor? Leopold had married in 1666 his cousin, the Infanta Margarita Teresa of Spain – best known from her childhood portrait Las Meninas by Velasquez. Margarita’s brother, Charles II of Spain, suffered from congenital mental and physical disabilities that made it unlikely he would beget a direct heir. Had Leopold and Margarita had a son, he would have had a strong claim to succeed to the Spanish throne.

    Such a successor would have been able to re-establish a personal union of the Spanish and Imperial crowns, something not seen since the time of Charles I and V. This prospect obviously threatened a number of interests – chief among them France, which was bordered by Habsburg lands both to the south and to the east. It might also have been viewed ominously by Jews in the Holy Roman Empire. Margarita disliked Jews, thinking that their machinations might have been responsible for the deaths in infancy of several of her children, and she persuaded Leopold to banish Jews from Vienna.

    Given that the Jesuits had nearly poisoned her husband, perhaps the Empress had reason to be suspicious – and given the history of crypto-Judaism amongst Jesuits in her native Spain, about which she was most likely well aware, her suspicion would have been understandable. As the saying goes, even paranoids have enemies.

    Whether by natural or unnatural means all but one of Margarita’s children predeceased her, and she herself died in 1673. The surviving child was a daughter, Maria Antonia,who married Maximilian II Emmanuel, elector of Bavaria. The Spanish succession remained unsettled, leading to war at the death of Charles II, which resulted in the installation of the present Bourbon royal family of Spain.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Sam J.
  48. Alden says:
    @Brabantian

    Excellent post, you’re absolutely right.

  49. Alden says:
    @ANONYMOUS

    Excellent point but I think the article claims that Jews kept joining the Jesuits over the years.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  50. @El Dato

    “Ich bestimme, wer Jude ist.”

    Karl Lueger

    If Jewishness is a distinct thing, its greatest strength is its impossibility to pin down. Is it biological? Is it a belief? An evolved culturo-biological strategy? A certain vagueness in the attack, a disgust at alienness in general, an extreme assertion of the direct virtues over the indirect, the male over the female principle, seems the only thing that overcomes it.

    As such, your example, “is Microsoft Jewish?” is both funny, and an example of the only kind of anti-Jewishness that will work.”Eh, seems kinda Jewy” needs become a universal disqualifier.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  51. @Intelligent Dasein

    The question which remains essentially eternally open – as it is entirely subject to change as a matter of order and discipline of the church – is whether or not RCC parish priests can or cannot marry.

    What really is not in question is whether non-parish RCC priests can marry. The answer to that question is: No.

    In Eastern Orthodoxy a seminarian who marries in advance of ordination may marry, but that will consign him to life as a parish priest – he cannot be a monk or a bishop. Also – once ordained an unmarried priest cannot marry.

    Those traditions would hold even if the RCC altered practice and allowed parish priests to marry.

    Many believe that if the RCC had followed the EO model then the existence of a large cadre of presbyteras in parishes, who likely would have formal and informal communities, would have acted as a bullwark against the pedophile priest scandal as it is highly likely the problem would have been noticed, had proper attention brought to it, and judiciously corrected before it could become a scandal … i.e.: it could have been arrested at individual or local levels before becoming systemic. All that to say nothing of the merits of promoting a healthy heterosexual culture in a community of men because if you didn’t, and instead, for example: spent generations prohibiting licit, adult/adult heterosexual sex in what is an all-male society, … what is the worse that can happen? hmmm.

    The presence of presbyteras would have been a grace that might have sustained the socio-political potency of the church. If you consider the neutered form of the church in 2017 to be a good thing, versus the politically potent church of 1955, 1965 and 1975, then I suppose it makes sense to you to refuse to succumb to the pressure to “relax the discipline”.

  52. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    Tom Steyer is was born Episcopalian and remains Episcopalian.

    • Replies: @Alden
  53. @Intelligent Dasein

    The idea that celibacy was imposed as a way to prevent nepotism is something of a canard. For one thing, there is nothing inherently wrong with priestly offices and lands being inherited property, as they often were in the Orthodox Church.

    Indeed, priests of the Eastern Rite of the Roman Catholic Church are often married. The requirement of celibacy applies only in the Latin Rite.

    I do not think that celibacy was intended to “prevent nepotism,” which in any event was common enough, with certain prince-bishoprics being handed down from uncle to nephew with as much regularity as a secular noble feu might have passed from father to son. Indeed, there was for centuries a well-established position of “Cardinal-nephew” in the Church of Rome:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal-nephew

    Priestly celibacy did, however, serve the interests of the feudal nobility. They wished to preserve their right of presentation to the ecclesiastical benefices in their demesnes. This allowed them the ability to nominate a younger son or nephew to the living of the local church. Such patronage was a valuable part of feudal rights and persisted until quite a late date. Rosmini, writing in the nineteenth century, counted the right of lay presentation as one of the “five wounds of the Holy Church.” Lay patronage continued in the Church of England well after the Reformation; advowsons began to be phased out only in the 1920s, but even in the 1960s the sixth Marquess of Bristol was reported in Debrett’s to be the holder of the right of presentation to thirty benefices.

    The structure of feudal tenures and rights that obtained in Western Europe did not obtain in the East, where the Orthodox and the Eastern Rite Catholic Churches prevailed. It is hard not to see some connection between this and the prevalence of married clergy in those places, as opposed to the requirement of celibacy in places where the right of presentation was vested in the feudal landholders.

  54. @AaronB

    Or:

    Teach your children Latin, Greek, or Sanskrit … or even: Hebrew, if for no other reason then so that they may better understand the Semitic language of the Copts and so that they may, as Leonardo Bruni advised, be better suited to hold disputations with the Jews.

    And teach your children their Greek heritage with Homer, or the Latin heritage with Virgil, or their western heritage with both; or: their German heritage with the Nibelungenlied, or their English heritage with Beowulf, the Canterbury Tales, etc.

    And teach your children with a cyclical calendar of ethnic holidays where you revive ancestral and more distant familial bonds. And teach your children with life-cycle events which also reaffirm those same bonds.

    And teach your children piano, paying special attention to the need to train the left-hand, the weaker hand – while also teaching them astronomy nearby, along-side, their learning of math and geometry.

    And believe in markets – but don’t believe everything they tell you about “capitalism”. Not 40 years ago the tradition of mutuals, co-ops, credit-unions, locally-owned enterprises, etc – all these were not yet dead, … and they were part of a tradition that tied capital to the community.

    And help others do the same.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Sam J.
  55. AaronB says:

    Certain Jewish tactics are not available to others – for instance, pretending to be victims. Only a minority can even try this. This tactic is not available to the dominant culture.

    (regardless of the actual facts, assuming that everything is about “image” and not facts)

    Israel suffers from this problem – it continues to try and present itself as the victim but no one buys it.

    Van Creveld, the Israeli military historian, suggests that to recapture the perception of occupying the moral high ground Israel should send in only foot soldiers in its Gaza wars – never any tanks or aircraft – to avoid the impression of being the bully, even if this means a much higher casalty rate.

    As a Jew, he understands the battle is fought on the moral level, and that it might be worth suffering more casualties if it means winning the moral battle. (his ideas, however, have not been taken up by other Jews, who maybe know Israels image is not so bad as to require such measures yet)

    White people simply can’t present themselves as the victim at this point in time, although that’s gradually changing.

    But the amount of mileage Jews were able to get out of portraying themselves a victims should be a huge lesson to us all that this battle is fought on the moral level.

    Now what would be a good way for whites to capture the “image” of holding the moral high ground with regard to Jews?

    First there would have to be an understanding among whites that this is a battle about “image” in terms of occupying the moral high ground – the problem here is that dominant white culture is about abstraction and has lost the ability to think in terms of morality.

    So that would be the first needed step – for white culture to move away from abstraction and relearn to think in terms of morality and other “unscientific” ways.

    Right now, morality is the special province of the “oppositional” white culture – whites who define themselves as opposed to the dominant white culture of abstraction.

    This is a disastrous state of affairs – when the dominant culture of abstraction is seen as opposed to moral interests, that right there is a huge self-inflicted wound that Jews are only all too happy to exploit.

    We should be very aware that while Jews are prominent in science “Jewish culture” is hardly defined as scientific but as a sentimental moral and emotional system.

    Jews “use” science, in other words, while whites “are” science.

    So if “dominant” white culture was seen as having a moral basis and was not just a system of abstractions that would at a stroke deprive Jews of a major PR coup and would correct r a major white vulnerability.

    Whites then could criticize Jewish behavior and point to their own cultures deeply ethical and moral character as invalidating the charge of anti-Semitism.

    Wouldn’t that be to sweep the rug right out of the feet of the Jews in a delicious reversal?

    That’s probaby why Jews tried so hard to undermine Christianity and discourage whites from having any moral concerns whatsoever.

    They well understood that a culture that isn’t grounded in morality is vulnurable to guilt and paralyzed and flustered when it comes defending itself against moral attack.

    Ironically, those whites who blame Christianity for white guilt are playing right into Jews hands! Are they even aware of this?

    They think an excess of morality is to blame – but Jews undesrand that it is rather the absence of a moral system which render a people vulnurable.

    These whites who blame Christianity should pause for a moment and wonder why these psychologically astute Jews attack and seek to destroy Christianity if it is such a source of white weakness!

    If Christianity is the basis of white guilt and weakness, then Jews should be doing everything in their power to shore it up!

    In the final analysts maybe the only way to defeat Jews and become invulnurable to their machinations is indeed to imitate them after all – or at least to imitate one part of their system, the part that gives them motivation and stength.

    To defeat Jews white culture has to become a culture deeply concerned with morality to an extent comparable or greater than Jewish culture.

    (notice I said culture that seeks to ground itself in a moral system – I take it for granted that Jewish ethics is inferior to many other moral systems, at least Talmudic ethics, but the abstract systems that dominate white culture – science, capitalism, technology – do not even rise to the level of Talmudic ethics, not to mention the ethics of the Prophets)

    When that happens, Jews will have no way to make whites feel guilty – and their ability to manipulate will have come to an end.

    • Replies: @Anon-og
    , @lavoisier
  56. AaronB says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    Yes, this is definitely on the right track, although I think it has to go further than this.

    What I don’t understand is why people can so clearly see how Jews undermined white society but can’t – or are unwilling – to see how whites gave themselves a massive self-inflicted wound by teaching themselves to think only in abstract terms and neglect the emotional and moral and psychological side of man.

    And this whites did to themselves. The Enlightenment can now be seen as a massive self-inflicted wound.

    Whites need a moral and psychological rehabilitation if they are ever to recover.

  57. polskijoe says:
    @James Kabala

    In the English language often the term “crypto Jew” is used as a broad term.

    I see the term “Maranos” (as those who pretend to be Christian but remain Jewish)..
    I see most Conservos as legitimate. Lots of their descendants in Latin America (whether they know it or not). Apparently New Mexico and South California have a few of them.

    Some Jews join Catholicism, but they seem to care for their ethnicity a lot. (I reject the notion that Jews are a race).
    Some Jews join and mean it.

    Again what is a Jew? No established definition. Even the various Jewish groups argue about it.
    If someone has some minor Jewish ancestry (even if its maternal) I have no reason to call them a Jew (regardless of what the Rabbis think). Im Catholic.

    If you believe in Catholicism/Christ and work honestly with Gentiles good enough.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Sam J.
  58. polskijoe says:
    @anon

    The organization Bnai Brith (dominant Jewish freemasonry)
    apparently fear Jews assimiliating and becoming Gentiles
    more than antisemitism.
    Yet most of their militant work for fighting antisemitism is done by ADL.

  59. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Brabantian

    Good and recommended reads on the subject matter, with archived links for controversial sources outside of the Unz Review, in case of potential future censorship of this information/material:

    Jewish Intellectual Supremacism: A Refutation by Andrew Ryan and Peter J. White

    There is concern by Jews and other people of goodwill about the spread of real anti-Semitism (i.e. genuine hatred of the Jews and not merely concern with the “culture of critique”) in Europe today. Those of us knowledgeable about Asia are well aware that phenomena such as Hitler-fascination and Holocaust denial are popular amongst the Chinese and especially the Indians. None of these peoples have guilt about the holocaust and none accept the Jews as a “chosen people”. [38] How “smart” is it to adopt a group evolutionary strategy (to use Kevin MacDonald’s terminology) which will undermine the people with whom one has lived for centuries? How “smart” is it to expect the Chinese and Indians, the likely powers to replace Whites after the fall of America, to fall for the same ruse? Insightful Jewish critics such as Stephen Steinlight, are already questioning the rationality of the “culture of critique” and we must do the same. [39]
    Is it too much to hope that a sizeable portion of the Jewish intellectual elite may come to see that their survival is intimately linked to ours? [40]

    https://thecross-roads.org/race-culture-nation/84-jewish-intellectual-supremacism-a-refutation-by-andrew-ryan-and-peter-j-white Archived link: http://archive.is/U2eJa

    The Myth of East Asian Intellectual Supremacy by Peter J. White

    https://thecross-roads.org/race-culture-nation/25-the-myth-of-east-asian-intellectual-supremacy

    Archived link: http://archive.is/Ak4Qx

    Meanwhile, most everyone else in the world has had a long history of cousin marriage, and hence they are more concerned about the family, clan and tribe (and less concerned about everyone else). Hence, the rampant corruption in most parts of the world.
    [...]
    The Chinese are known for their merciless exploitation of one another, which is consistent with their very long history of cousin marriage. Overall, Chinese and East Asian society in general is far more dysfunctional than in the West, with interclan conflict still an ongoing problem there.

    http://www.unz.com/jman/finland-japan/#p_1_21

    The same applies to Jews in Israel, where cousin marriage customs are still quite prevalent compared to the West and therefore clan conflicts between different Jewish mafia families are common:

    INSIGHT – ISRAEL DECLARES WAR ON ITS MAFIA – 9/1/14

    More here: This topic of racial differences in inherited personality traits is gonna be the next big frontier in LoveFacts, and it will cause even more hysteria from the equalist crowd than does the topic of IQ when it becomes common knowledge that characteristics like propensity to violence, sociopathy, conscientiousness, trustworthiness, and kindness are NOT equally and randomly distributed among the world’s races of people. – (see website link of this comment) Archived link: http://archive.is/yanxo#selection-287.0-287.419

    Finally, the word “merit” has different meanings in different contexts. It is never just IQ. In post-medieval England, merit meant a mix of “middle-class” values: thrift, self-control, future time orientation, and rejection of violence as a way to settle disputes (Clark, 2007; Clark, 2009a; Clark, 2009b). In other societies, merit may involve a different mix of predispositions and personality traits, such as ruthlessness and willingness to use violence.

    http://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2012/01/do-classes-become-castes.html Archived link: http://archive.is/6fYle#selection-333.0-274.24

    I argued before that extremely competitive/socially mobile/social Darwinian societies and environments actually select against higher intelligence

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/alma-mater-2018/#comment-2104452

    I personally suspect that the neurotransmitter Serotonin plays a role in all of this and that higher brain Serotonin levels (due to the low-activity MAOA allele (“warrior gene’)) increase “clannishness” and decrease “utilitarianism”. You can read more about this in my comments in this comments thread:

    In other words, the drug made people less utilitarian.2

    Pause for a moment and consider that the debate between utilitarians and deontologists has been raging for hundreds of years. Yet we were able to shift people’s judgments, from more utilitarian to more deontological, by manipulating their brain chemistry. Could the difference between Hume and Kant boil down to a few chemicals in their brains? And what implications might this have for other ethical questions?

    http://www.unz.com/article/opioids-and-the-crisis-of-the-white-working-class/#comment-2134070

    Many people mistakenly equate an utilitarian worldview with being psychopathic due to the famous “trolley problem” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem , since psychopaths, on average, tend to score well on this particular problem:

    Psychopathy: what apology making tells us about moral agency.

    Our central claim will be this: convergence in response to trolley problems does not tell us very much about the psychopathic subject’s capacity to make moral judgments, but his inability to make sincere apologies does provide us with strong grounds for holding that this capacity is seriously impaired in psychopathy.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24442894

    Turns Out, Utilitarians Are Not Psychopaths

    The authors of the paper, Guy Kahane, Jim Everett, Brian Earp, Miguel Farias, and Julian Savulescu, were not convinced by the quick labeling of certain responses to what they aptly term “sacrificial moral dilemmas” (like the trolley problems) as utilitarian, smelling that something odd must be going on if people who subscribe to the moral philosophy of the likes of John Stuart Mill and Peter Singer turned out to be psychopaths, albeit of a sub-clinical variety.

    http://www.philosophersmag.com/index.php/footnotes-to-plato/91-turns-out-utilitarians-are-not-psychopaths Archived link: http://archive.is/QKbf9

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  60. @ANONYMOUS

    there is no such thing as a stupid question, there are only stupid answers

    • Replies: @anonymous
  61. @Jake

    One of the weird things about anti-semitism is the tendency of anti-semitists to notice the presence of Jewish communities when nations or societies go into decline but fail to account for their presence during the rise of the same.

    While the British Empire rose, Jewish communities were there.
    While the United States rose, Jewish communities were there.
    While the Prussian Empire catapulted its society into modernity before WWI, Jewish communities were there.
    The Byzantine Empire held for a thousand years from 476 to 1453, all the while a home to Jewish communities, all the while providing a crucial buffer-shock against Islamic encroachment that gave Western Europe a good millennium to, catch up with their southern brothers, and rise to Greco-Roman standards of civilization.

    But when these societies failed to keep their traditions, even as the Jewish communities they contained succeeded at keeping their own, Jewish communities remained while the edifice crumbled around them, and there were always those more ready to lay blame than to go to a library; buy a book, give it away, learn something and contribute to the public square and the commons and rebuild what their ancestors created.

    But of course sure – there’s your example: Stalin.

    Fine, fine example. I’m sure we can find at least one reader who’d like to live in Stalin’s Russia.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @James N. Kennett
  62. @gT

    So its a thanks for the assist, but you are no longer necessary :-)

    I suspect that goes as well for the duped Izzy firsters whether they claim “Jewishness” based on genetics, culture, religion or whatever else may hseem to work at the time. It was the same for the dupes of the big time Reds a century ago.

    And even longer ago we have such as this…

    Sirach 13
    Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
    13 He that toucheth pitch, shall be defiled with it: and he that hath fellowship with the proud, shall put on pride.
    2 He shall take a burden upon him that hath fellowship with one more honourable than himself. And have no fellowship with one that is richer than thyself.

    4 The rich man hath done wrong, and yet he will fume: but the poor is wronged and must hold his peace.
    5 If thou give, he will make use of thee: and if thou have nothing, he will forsake thee.
    6 If thou have anything, he will live with thee, and will make thee bare, and he will not be sorry for thee.
    7 If he have need of thee he will deceive thee, and smiling upon thee will put thee in hope; he will speak thee fair, and will say: What wantest thou?
    8 And he will shame thee by his meats, till he have drawn thee dry twice or thrice, and at last he will laugh at thee: and afterward when he seeth thee, he will forsake thee, and shake his head at thee.

    10 Beware that thou be not deceived Into folly, and be humbled.

    14 Affect not to speak with him as an equal: and believe not his many words: for by much talk he will sift thee, and smiling will examine thee concerning thy secrets.
    15 His cruel mind will lay up thy words: and he will not spare to do thee hurt, and to cast thee into prison.

    I’ve been told that sentiments like that can be brushed off due to their origin in envy…

  63. Svigor says:

    Andrew, great piece, thanks.

    (I can’t help but notice and point out that a great many of the quotes from the period in question are rather circumspect about naming the Jew. Either the quote omits naming the target entirely, or some euphemism like “neophyte” or “those from the circumcision” are used.)

    It all comes down to Jews’ pathological love-hate complex. On one hand they want to be separate; on the other, they can’t live with their own kind. They don’t have what it takes to make great nations on their own, so they have to attach themselves to and attempt to dominate great White nations.

    The tension between Jews’ self-image as gods among cattle, and the reality of Jews both not being that great, and being desperate to be among us, explains a lot of their derangement.

    E.g., the Jews who were honest were spared any harm from the Inquisition: they left Spain. The only Jews who were “persecuted” were the liars who made phony conversions so they could continue worshiping Mammon. Yes, I’m sure some Conversos were wrongly accused of heresy, but without the widespread heresy of their fellow Conversos, they would not have been.

    “the malice of the envious.” (20)

    This is one of the more amusing Jewish habits. Jews have enshrined this “antisemitism=malicious envy” thing in their culture. The idea that it is exactly their culture malicious narcissism and risible self-deception that causes hostility in others seems to complex a concept for the mighty Jewish intellect.

    their own secretive networks based on racial exclusion, and the selection of their own preferred candidates based on ethnic preference.

    This kind of reciprocity terrifies the Jews. They will have an even harder time sussing it out than Whites have often had sussing out Jewish crypsis.

    And the list goes on. UK-based Jewish journalist Jonathan Freedland, who has a long history of activism against Whites, has penned an article titled “Donald Trump’s achilles heel is that he is truly un-American.”

    The simplest, most earnest advice I can give the naive is simply do not trust Jews. At all. If they tell you the sky is blue, go check, because it probably isn’t anymore. Whites’ trust of Jews is projection; they project their own honest natures onto Jews: “nobody’s that full of shit.” Yes, Virginia, Jews reeeaaaallly are that full of shit. Might as well be a different species, in this regard.

    E.g., Jews are as un-American as they come. Anti-free-speech, anti-gun, pro-bribery, pro-centralization, Bolshevik, collectivist, urban, soft, conniving, deceptive, etc. If Jews were capable of shame or self-review, they’d never call anyone or anything “un-American.”

    In all cases, both Trumpism and the Alt Right are portrayed by Jews as a foreign incursion into American political life. As with other tactics, these have a long lineage. Kevin MacDonald writes that “Jewish organizations in Germany in the period 1870–1914 argued that anti-Semitism was a threat to all of Germany because it was fundamentally ‘un-German.’’”[5] In nineteenth-century Germany, anti-Semitism was often described by Jews as a French import. Conversely, Paula Hyman writes that, faced with a rise in anti-Jewish feeling in nineteenth-century France, Jews spread the message that anti-Semitism was “un-French” and a “German import.”[6] Thorsten Wagner reports that it was a common refrain among Jews in Denmark that anti-Semitism there was “a German import — without autochthonous roots and traditions.”[7]

    My response is that as a German, I would prefer the French to the Jews, as a Frenchman I would prefer the Germans to the Jews, and as an American, I prefer Trump and the alt-right to the Jews.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  64. polskijoe says:
    @anarchyst

    The key link that influenced the Vatican2 was Freemasonry.

    Definetly Bnai Brith approached the Church to stop the “antisemitic” past.
    Perhaps other aggressive groups were involved (say the Scottish Rite/Latin Fms, or some smaller lodges in Italy).

    So the pressure groups were Freemasons consisting of Jews and Protestants.
    You could argue those Freemasons lose their Judaism and Protestant Christian status,
    but then again many Protestant sects and Jewish sects allow membership.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  65. Svigor says:

    The simplest, most earnest advice I can give the naive is simply do not trust Jews.

    I mean in the ideological sense; their propaganda, their policy positions, etc. You can trust your Jewish dentist to make a filling.

    This article seems to deliberately blur the distinction between genuine Christians of Jewish ancestry and fake Christians who continued to practice Jewish rituals in secret.

    I think it’s the Jews of Spain we can thank for making an issue out of it.

    Jewish historians claim that Spanish Jews just went underground, practicing Catholicism in public and passing on their Jewish heritage to their children at home.

    In the end it’s vague accusations which assume that Jews have an otherness that sets them preternaturally apart from the rest (do they have some kind of software virus?)

    Circular, but yes: the Jews that don’t have the otherness just assimilate, leaving only Jews with otherness to be Jews.

    Hardly “qualities” confined to Jews, converted, crypto or otherwise. Unless one redefines people exhibiting these qualities as Jews.

    Somehow, I doubt they would have stopped at criticizing non-Jews for those qualities, or that their criticism was confined to Jews. The problem was Jews’ phony conversions (which in context were treason), as well as their subversion, attempts to dominate Spaniards, etc. If Jews had been more concerned with getting along, and less concerned with ethnic warfare, they’d have suffered much less.

    The idea that crypto-Jews should be able to take over the Catholic church or its organs is lunacy, at best.

    Jews have no right to live among White gentiles, no right to live in White societies or White nations. Take some time to understand this.

    Vague accusations of disloyalty (to what?)

    It’s not a vague accusation to call disloyal a crypto-Jew in a Christian country that has allowed former Jews to remain there at the price of converting to Christianity. It’s concrete disloyalty.

    is not egregious behaviour.

    Yes, Jews’ behavior described in the piece is egregious.

    Striking how speaking of Jewish mafias and Jewish influence groups is said to be ‘anti-Semitic’, yet media in Europe and elsewhere still speak casually of Italian mafias, Albanian mafias etc

    Or how about how Jews are always harping on “white privilege,” “white supremacy,” etc, as they practice Jewish privilege and Jewish Supremacy?

    How hard is to remove the Judaism (whether its Torah, Talmud, or other Kaballah) and confirm an actual conservos who is legimite?

    Hard enough to make it not worth the trouble. Just ban people of Jewish ancestry. The Jews have had 2k years to shake out the “Christian genes,” there aren’t many left. That aside, quotas; there shouldn’t be many converts. If there are, they’re obviously spurious.

    This may be a stupid question but didn’t Katholic priests, also Jesuits then, NOT have children?
    But Jewish religious leaders always had children.
    How can a “lineage” hide in the Katholic Church, if they don’t have children?
    And why would there be be this obsession with pure blood, if one could not pass it on, anyway?

    Because no one (and certainly not crypto-Jews) ever cheated on his vows?

    It’s a cycle. Jews rise, fall, then rise again.

    How do you stop them? The tactics themselves depend entirely on deceit (crypsis) to be effective – once you’re aware of what’s going, they are powerless. You can just laugh at them.

    And this is how the cycle works – people are naive and unsuspecting, and the tactics work and Jews grow powerful. Then people figure out what’s going on, and Jews fall.

    People forget, and the cycle repeats.

    The tactics themselves, as described by McDonald and a growing number of observers aren’t really very impressive and don’t require much brain power.

    Very well said. As to how to leave the cycle altogether? I see two possibilities: 1 don’t be white; Jews won’t be able to “pass.” 2 counter-Semitism. Bar Jews from your society. They have Israel now.

    If Jewishness is a distinct thing, its greatest strength is its impossibility to pin down. Is it biological? Is it a belief? An evolved culturo-biological strategy?

    Yes, often, and pretty much, respectively. It’s a tribe. It isn’t hard to pin down.

    Certain Jewish tactics are not available to others – for instance, pretending to be victims. Only a minority can even try this. This tactic is not available to the dominant culture.

    Sure it is. Our culture isn’t dominant anymore, for one thing. Jew culture is. For another, we need to raise awareness, as it were. “That’s absurd, whites aren’t persecuted or discriminated against, they’re in charge.” “It’s that sort of denial of even the possibility of anti-white defamation that enables pernicious forms of anti-white discrimination and defamation to thrive.”

    White people simply can’t present themselves as the victim at this point in time, although that’s gradually changing.

    Sure we can. It just takes work.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Sam J.
  66. @AaronB

    Aaron,
    I need to refer you to my answer to Jake which is on #62.

    I suspect that if there is an answer to your question it is in the aggregate macroform that comes together when too many people are only able to think in “I”, but not “us”, who conflate “I” with “us”, who credit the assets to “us” to “I” and who become hopelessly confused when they get to the trickier matter of “us” and “them”.

    That’s probably hard to follow but here’s another thing that comes to mind.

    I know so many people who were blessed to have been taught Latin when they were young – this was forced on them by their parents – who went on as adults to complain that, “why not Mandarin, or Spanish, or German? … something useful?”

    Sometime after the age of 40, after it’s more possible to see things from many points of view, I would like to think that it would become more clear to them that their education in the ancestral tongue wasn’t just for their individual good: it was a collective act, necessary to fix the bonding powers of the social glue. Society, literally, depends on it.

    And – individually, eventually – yes, it pays back, many times over.

    Anyway – I gotta go – I’m going to miss the sun if I don’t get out soon. I hope this thread doesn’t go as badly as it’s liable to.

  67. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @mp

    Chinese have demonstrated an ability to create and sustain high culture. Jews have not, but exist parasitically within another’s culture. Advantage, China.

    Very true. Even if the white race succumbs to the parasite (unlikely), their misfortune will be a lesson that can’t be ignored.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  68. AaronB says:
    @Svigor

    Svigor, I think at the moment it would be a very tough sell, but things are changing fast and it may become an available tactic for whites soon.

    But really the larger question I’m interested in, is it really necessary to be a victim in order to occupy the moral high ground?

    Can one be firmly ground in morality so that one is immunized against guilt and feel that one represents a morally justified culture and people that is worthy of self-defense without adopting the position of a victim?

    While Jews have successfully used victim status as a cover for attack, it’s psychologically very unhealthy to obsess over ones supposed victim status.

    While it’s important to be aware of the power of this tactic and that being a victim can be turned into a source of immense strength, I don’t ultimately see Jews as worth emulating in this regard.

    Aside from their power and wealth, Jewish life presents many very unattractive features.

    I think we should learn from Jews the importance of the moral level but devise moral responses that avoid the serious flaws of Jewish culture.

    Learn, adapt, and improvise, rather than emulate.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  69. Wally says: • Website
    @Frankie P

    Those are fake numbers for Jews. There are many more of them then they let on.

    Most Jews are not ‘religious’ so they do not say they are Jews in census questions about religion.
    They consider themselves Jews nonetheless. They want you to think they are so few & helpless victims when in fact they create massive resentment towards them by their owns actions.

    And according to Jewish law Jews are to avoid being counted.
    To actually count Jews directly is forbidden (Talmud, Yoma 22b), as the prophet says: “And the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which shall neither be measured nor counted.”

    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/896203/jewish/Laws-of-Counting-Jews.htm

    and:
    ‘Why is it forbidden to count Jews?’

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/18472

    “This opening verse of our Biblical portion teaches that it is forbidden to take a number count of the Israelites, a census activity which Jewish organizations are constantly involved in doing. This prohibition is reinforced by the prophet Hosea (chapter 2), when he declares: “The number of the children of Israel shall be as the sands of the sea, which cannot be numbered and cannot be counted…” And historically even King David learned the bitter lesson of the power of this command, when- against the will of his Chief Commander Joab – he ordered a census, and the Israelites suffered a plague (II Samuel, 24). ”

    “We reached the [Balfour] Declaration not by miracles, but through persistent propaganda, through unceasing demonstration of the life force of our people. We told the responsible authorities: We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not. You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world.”

    - World Zionist leader [and future 1st President of Israël] Chaim Weizmann, speech in Jerusalem, December 1919.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  70. @Anonymous

    Anonymous’s riveting question: “But the question is, how are they stopped? Who has successfully stopped the Jews and how did they do it?”

    First off, given author’s surname is Joyce, I can not avoid thinking Andrew might be Catholic, perhaps to a lesser “fallen” degree as purportedly was James Joyce. At any rate, no biggie and I return to the quote, above.

    Too bad either an objective Jesuit priest or scholar likely will be “no shows” on A.J.’s important, timely, and sure-fire controversial article.

    Anon’s Q. # 1: “How is the (Jewish) subversion stopped?”

    My humble reply: Only by means of global Christian community awareness of the evil infiltration, & subsequent conversion, repentance, and a commitment to stay loyal to the Gospel.

    Ironically, and perhaps primarily regarding US Christians, eschatology (“world end time” intrigue) is popularly “in.” Regrettably, many favored & enriched ZUS (“Conversos”) evangelists cast their “flock” eye away from the stark Book of Revelation warning about hazards posed by the “Synagogue of Satan.” (Rev. 2:9)

    Therefore, once individual enthusistic Christian-believers are “catechized” by admired Conversos-preachers in possession of stilted ideologies, the human ability to stop Jewish subversion of “The Way” becomes seriously impaired. Such is why Paul gave early Christians a heads-up about believer’s not fighting mere “flesh & bone” but the battle actually being against spiritual forces, “principalities & powers of evil.”

    Then what I say in reply to the question # 1?

    Must return to the epistle that advised, “Put on the armor of God.” And what is that? Oh heck, it sure as hell ain’t the so-so armor Zionist Secretary Donald Rumsfeld advised American troops to wear while fighting against evil Muslim terrorists.

    Onward dumb goyim soldiers to Anon’s 2-part question # 2: “Who has successfully stopped the Jews? And how did they do it?

    To my knowledge, since Germany under National Socialist economic recovery and implementation of Hitler’s intentionally Zio obscured “Transfer Agrement,” the Reich tried to work with powerful Zionist German Jews who vanquished the Welmar Republic population and offered to help Jews to settle in Israel.

    To me, the “Transfer Agreement” must have pleased British Zionists & Papa Rothschild but the bonus prize became the destruction of National Socialism and understandable but EVIL energizing of Soviet post-WW 2 westward communist expansion.

    Adolph Hitler tried to stop Jewish power in Germany by helping Jews settle enmasse in the “Promised Land.” In my opinion, demonized Hitler initially gave better treatment to his homeland Jews than occupied Palestinians get from > 50 years of the US adored Israeli government.

    Finally, no nation in (modern?) history has veritably managed to “stop” Jewish political, economic, and cultural power. As all should know by now, the Zionist power is global in extent. Nations that desire to profitably participate in global trade must come to terms and accomodate Israeli requirements. Many honest & objective scholarly eyes are on that which the leaders of Russia and China will do about the relentless creep of globalist Moneychangers.

    One thing for sure, Anonymous. Over decades, bribed/blackmailed US lawmakers and presidents allowed elite & politically powerful Zionist Jews to execute a silent American government coup. Sad fact is perhaps a large percentage of Americans (temporarily?) profit from successful Zionization, and an act of “stopping it” shall be a painful & slow process which starts within individual citizen-awareness faculty.

    (Zigh) My age suggests an affinity with the (left wing?) ideological film, “Spartacus.” ZUSA slaves are in dramatic need for an uncontrolled Spartacus to rally around.

    Lastly, as a graduate of University of Scranton, a Jesuit institution, I return to hope that a thoughful Jesuit non-Converso affiliated thinker takes time to make comment on Mr. Joyce’s “Finnegan” awakened article.

    Down with US Clergy Conversos! Happy New Year… Naz drowie!

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  71. Svigor says:

    White people simply can’t present themselves as the victim at this point in time, although that’s gradually changing.

    Sure we can. It just takes work.

    To elaborate, all of the guffawing leftists do in response to pro-White criticism of the anti-White regime is grist for the mill. Don’t let it discourage you; use it. “I bet the Nazis guffawed over the Jews’ whining, too.” “ZOMG gimme a break you Jews are rich and powerful and privileged, you don’t suffer.” Remember, the shoah didn’t start until 1941 or so. Nazi criticism of Jews started much earlier. By leftists’ logic, they had no legitimate complaint until Nazis started physically going after them and putting them into camps.

  72. Alden says:
    @Anon

    Wikipedia says Jewish parents.

  73. Seraphim says:
    @Alden

    But they continued to remain celibates.

  74. Svigor says:

    But really the larger question I’m interested in, is it really necessary to be a victim in order to occupy the moral high ground?

    No. But claiming you have been done an injustice is a great way to seek redress, then tailor the (sought) reforms to your interests. It’s the heart of leftism; cloak your misdeeds in the trappings of justice. “I’m not trying to get you put in jail or to death because I hate you, I’m trying to get justice for the crimes you did to me.”

    I don’t think we need to go all victim culture, but we definitely need to fight fire with fire when it comes to the Jews and their allies.

  75. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    Can one be firmly ground in morality so that one is immunized against guilt and feel that one represents a morally justified culture and people that is worthy of self-defense without adopting the position of a victim?

    Yes. Historically, defending your land and your own within it was always morally unassailable. There’s no guilt.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  76. Hi Andrew Joyce,

    As you are likely preoccupied with the good comments on your article, I dare to link the America Magazine article (below) by Ray Cavanaugh.

    Topic is fascinating: James Joyce as Jesuit but not Catholic.

    https://www.americamagazine.org/arts-culture/2017/01/03/why-james-joyce-said-he-was-jesuit-rebelled-against-catholic-church

    Throughout early-1990′s to September 2001, I subscribed to America Magazine.

    I hold hope that there are Jesuits stationed in perhaps 3rd world nations that are true soldiers of Christ and perhaps may hazard a comment on your respectful work.
    Similar thought was recently raised by a U.R. commenter on US military officers and tbeir knowing about the Zionization of military service branches.

    Thank you!

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @Anon
  77. Svigor says:

    SPH, good point about splitting, but I think the overlap with narcissistic personality disorder might be more germane:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)

    Main article: Narcissistic personality disorder

    People matching the diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder also use splitting as a central defence mechanism. Most often the narcissist does this as an attempt to stabilize their sense of self positivity in order to preserve their self-esteem, by perceiving themselves as purely upright or admirable and others who do not conform to their will or values as purely wicked or contemptible.[13]

    The cognitive habit of splitting also implies the use of other related defence mechanisms, namely idealization and devaluation [Jewish rhetoric on negroes and White Christians, respectively], which are preventive attitudes or reactions to narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury.[11]

  78. @Wally

    Wally is your wife a Hispanic? Another commentator mentioned that to me and said she looked mixed. Why are you worried about Jews when your wife may be a problem?

  79. Svigor says:

    This one has some nice tidbits, too:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury

    Narcissistic rage is a reaction to narcissistic injury, which is a perceived threat to a narcissist’s self-esteem or self-worth. Narcissistic injury (or narcissistic scar) is a phrase used by Sigmund Freud in the 1920s; narcissistic wound and narcissistic blow are further, almost interchangeable terms.[1] The term narcissistic rage was coined by Heinz Kohut in 1972.

    Narcissistic injury occurs when a narcissist feels that their hidden, “true self” has been revealed. This may be the case when the narcissist experiences a “fall from grace”, such as when their hidden behaviors or motivations are revealed, or when their importance is brought into question. Narcissistic injury is a cause of distress and can lead to dysregulation of behaviors as in narcissistic rage.

    For Kohut, narcissistic rage is related to narcissists’ need for total control of their environment, including “the need for revenge, for righting a wrong, for undoing a hurt by whatever means”.[21] It is an attempt by the narcissist to turn from a passive sense of victimization to an active role in giving pain to others, while at the same time attempting to rebuild their own (actually false) sense of self-worth. It may also involve self-protection and preservation, with rage serving to restore a sense of safety and power by destroying that which had threatened the narcissist.[21]

    Sounds like Jews collectively are ethnic narcissists; their sense of self is linked to their ethnocentrism and Jewish identity; a blow to the Jewish ethnicity is a blow to the Jewish individual, to an extent that it is not for Whites.

    Further, Jews cultivate a state of ethnic narcissistic rage, of nursing ethnic narcissistic grievance.

  80. Svigor says:

    Like Jewish groups, Asian groups have a very high IQ profile … East Asians being even higher than Jews on average

    Wrong, and wrong. East Asian mean is around 105, and you have to cherry-pick to put their mean above that of Jews.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  81. Dan Hayes says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    ChuckOrloski:

    Thank you for supplying the America article on Joyce. From it I have come to the realization that Joyce would have fit in quite comfortably as a modern-day Jesuit.

  82. Svigor says:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissist

    Four dimensions of narcissism as a personality variable have been delineated: leadership/authority, superiority/arrogance, self-absorption/self-admiration, and exploitativeness/entitlement

    Check, check, check, and check.

    Hotchkiss identified what she called the seven deadly sins of narcissism:[9]

    Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.[clarify]
    Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to “dump” shame onto others.
    Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may “reinflate” their sense of self-importance by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.
    Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person’s ability by using contempt to minimize the other person or their achievements.
    Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an “awkward” or “difficult” person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
    Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other person is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.
    Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist, there is no boundary between self and other.

    Check (AKA chutzpah), check (AKA “mystical” or “magical” antisemitism), check, check (Jews assume the right to inhabit our spaces in every way possible), check, check, check.

    Jews are ethnic narcissists.

  83. AaronB says:
    @Anonymous

    Well, my thesis is that self-defense has to be grounded in a feeling of moral self-worth.

    If you feel morally worthless, you may lose your desire to defend yourself. Certainly if you feel your culture is morally worthless you may lose the desire to defend it.

    So self-defense is not a given, as you say. That’s why jews try so hard to make whites feel morally worthless and destroy Christianity which used to be the moral basis of white society.

    Whites tried to live under abstract amoral systems like science, capitalism, etc, and by doing so couldn’t stand up for themselves when Jews accused them of having a morally worthless society not worth defending.

    While the Jewish attack was dishonest and self-interested, whites had a hard time meeting this challenge.

  84. Svigor says:

    For fuck’s sake:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissist

    Four dimensions of narcissism as a personality variable have been delineated: leadership/authority, superiority/arrogance, self-absorption/self-admiration, and exploitativeness/entitlement

    Check, check, check, and check.

    Hotchkiss identified what she called the seven deadly sins of narcissism:[9]

    Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.[clarify]
    Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to “dump” shame onto others.
    Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may “reinflate” their sense of self-importance by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.
    Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person’s ability by using contempt to minimize the other person or their achievements.
    Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an “awkward” or “difficult” person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
    Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other person is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.
    Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist, there is no boundary between self and other.

    Check (AKA chutzpah), check (AKA “mystical” or “magical” antisemtism), check, check (Jews assume the right to inhabit our spaces in every way possible), check, check, check.

    Jews are ethnic narcissists.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

    Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder in which there is a long-term pattern of abnormal behavior characterized by exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive need for admiration, and a lack of understanding of others’ feelings.[2][3] People affected by it often spend a lot of time thinking about achieving power or success, or about their appearance.[3] They often take advantage of the people around them.[3]

    Check.

    Ethnic Narcissistic Personality Disorder (ENPD):

    Ethnic Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a collective group disorder in which a group displays a long-term pattern of abnormal behavior characterized by exaggerated feelings of its own importance, an excessive need for it to be admired, and a lack of understanding of other groups’ feelings. People affected by it often spend a lot of time thinking about achieving power or success, or about the reputation of their group. They often take advantage of the groups around them. The behavior is often reinforced by a group culture of ethnic narcissism.

    Back to the Wikipedia article:

    Treatments have not been well studied.[2] Therapy is often difficult as people with the disorder frequently do not consider themselves to have a problem.

    Check. It’s a Jewish cultural institution.

    As such, the person with NPD usually displays the behaviors of arrogance, a sense of superiority, and actively seeks to establish abusive power and control over other people.[9] Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition different from self-confidence (a strong sense of self); people with NPD typically value themselves over other persons to the extent that they openly disregard the feelings and wishes of others, and expect to be treated as superior, regardless of their actual status or achievements.[7][10] Moreover, the person with narcissistic personality disorder usually exhibits a fragile ego (Self-concept), an inability to tolerate criticism, and a tendency to belittle others in order to validate their own superiority.[10]

    Arrogance (check), sense of superiority (check), seeks abusive power and control over other groups (check), disregard the feeling and wishes of Whites (check), fragile ethnic ego (check), inability to tolerate criticism (check check check check check check check check check check check check check check check check check…dang, I broke the button), and tendency to belittle Whites (check).

    True symptoms of NPD are pervasive, apparent in varied situations, and rigid, remaining consistent over time.

    Is two thousand years a long time?

    People with NPD tend to exaggerate their skills and accomplishments as well as their level of intimacy with people they consider to be high-status. Their sense of superiority may cause them to monopolize conversations[10] and to become impatient or disdainful when others talk about themselves.[7] In the course of a conversation, they may purposefully or unknowingly disparage or devalue the other person by overemphasizing their own success. When they are aware that their statements have hurt someone else, they tend to react with contempt and to view it as a sign of weakness.[7] When their own ego is wounded by a real or perceived criticism, their anger can be disproportionate to the situation,[10] but typically, their actions and responses are deliberate and calculated.[7] Despite occasional flare-ups of insecurity, their self-image is primarily stable (i.e., overinflated).[7]

    Man oh man…

    The irony is that a lot of this probably comes from Jewish shrinks too caught up in ethnic narcissism, or fear of reprisal from their co-ethnic narcissists, to admit how true it is of the tribe.

    To the extent that people are pathologically narcissistic, they can be controlling, blaming, self-absorbed, intolerant of others’ views, unaware of others’ needs and the effects of their behavior on others, and insist that others see them as they wish to be seen.

    Man, this whole thing is spot-on.

    According to the DSM-5, “Many highly successful individuals display personality traits that might be considered narcissistic. Only when these traits are inflexible, maladaptive, and persisting and cause significant functional impairment or subjective distress do they constitute narcissistic personality disorder.”

    Like, say, a the long lachrymose history of the Jews?

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  85. Svigor says:

    Ha! Somebody beat me to it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_narcissism

    Which leads back to:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism

    Ethnocentrism; it really does explain Jews. Jews deflect with counter-arguments like “muh intermarriage” (which I routinely demolish – “muh intermarriage” actually furthers the argument that Jews are ethnocentric), but just read the articles on narcissism, see how well it has Jews pegged (with a few modifications for the collective aspect).

  86. Svigor says:

    The articles on narcissism are far more informative, have a lot more substance, than the article on ethnocentrism.

  87. Svigor says:

    Pattern change strategies performed over a long period of time are used to increase the ability of those with NPD to become more empathic in everyday relationships. To help modify their sense of entitlement and self-centeredness schema, the strategy is to help them identify how to utilize their unique talents and to help others for reasons other than their own personal gain.

    Steve Sailer has been working this strategy.

    Psychoanalytic psychotherapy may be effective in treating NPD, but therapists must recognize the patient’s traits and use caution in tearing down narcissistic defenses too quickly.

    I, on the other hand, think Jewish ENPD is untreatable, and focus my efforts on spreading awareness of their problem. Actually, shunning and divestment may push Jews into a semblance of honest self-review, at least temporarily.

  88. AaronB says:
    @Svigor

    Ah, so you’ve discovered the connection between NPD and Jewish behavior. It is indeed a very illuminating lens with which to examine Jewish behavior. Almost uncanny.

    Jewish culture is a a school for the development of NPD, really, which is why I feel we should take note of their tactics but not emulate them too much.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  89. I have come to a different but related conclusion regarding the Jesuits. My concerns were those of a practicing Traditional Catholic who was trying to work out some difficult problems regarding ecclesiastical history and they had nothing explicitly to do with the Jews, but they harmonize with the tone of this article nonetheless.

    In brief, I was forced to the conclusion that the Jesuit Order had no real mandate from God to preach the Gospel throughout China, India, and Japan. This is evidenced not only by the slightness of the effects they managed to achieve, but overwhelmingly by the fact that they adulterated the Gospel into a kind of syncretism by blending it with the cults of the native lands. Since the impetus did not come from God, it must have been owning to personal vanity on their part or some other base motive, and therefore cannot be called a true fruit of the Holy Ghost.

    The Great Commission tells us to “go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature,” but it does not give a specific timetable. The Asiatic nations simply were not ready for it and they still aren’t. God has not yet conducted them to that point in their development where Christ can be decisively accepted or rejected.

    We are still paying the price today for the Jesuits’ overreach in the form of the pagan peoples now streaming into formerly Christian lands. And one of their own, the satanically smirking Antipope Francis, now sits on the throne of St. Peter, giving his blessing to the wanton destruction of the Church and the massacre of ancient Christian peoples.

  90. I wonder if Svigor has ever met actual Jewish people or if they just exist as symbols in his mind.

  91. @Intelligent Dasein

    In what way do you consider Asian nations lacking in “development?” I have seen some strange comments on this website, but that must be one of the top ones. China and Japan have histories of scholarship, art, etc. at least as long as those the Romans and Greeks had when they were converted, and certainly far greater than those of the Germans or Celts of Slavs. (And also histories of vices and atrocities, but the Greeks and Romans etc. certainly had those as well.) Nice to know that the conversion of souls should follow the timetable of a twenty-first century American nobody instead of that of St. Francis Xavier (or St. Isaac Jogues or St. Peter Claver or (not a Jesuit) St. Junipero Serra – if Asians are undeveloped than Africans and American Indians most be hopeless). Some of the bravest men who ever lived are accused by you of “vanity.”

    I actually think your comment is objectively heretical.

    Interestingly, these days evangelical Christian groups at Ivy League colleges are dominated by Asians. Such as (although she was from BU, not an Ivy League school) Lu Lingzi, the Chinese student killed in the Boston Marathon bombings, who had just come back from Bible camp.

  92. Seraphim says:
    @AaronB

    @we should take note of their tactics but not emulate them too much.

    As the ‘white’ strive to. They actually want to imitate them by disparaging the Church.

  93. @AaronB

    Ultimately, the alt-right is another expression of modernity in its typical modern devotion to abstract systems and neglect of the moral and emotional – when what is needed is the overcoming of modernity.

    What is needed is something new.

    Tell us more about this New! Improved! Different! unModern! Not Abstract! stuff you’re selling.

    • LOL: utu
  94. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Brabantian

    European-descended whites, distinctively in the world, do so little to act in ethnic-mafia ways for their own group benefit

    You lie!!

    The greatest plunderers of foreign wealth have been the European-descended whites. This unabashed thievery has been one of the main catalysts for the success of their nations.

    Even if it can be argued that white Australia did not go around plundering other nations (sorry indigenous people for ignoring your genocide to make a bigger point), its current success can be traced to “ethnic-mafia working for own group benefit.”

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Malla
  95. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Even if it can be argued that white Australia did not go around plundering

    My apologies. I think Australia was a terrible example, to make a point, in the context I made it.

    Australia should be one of the best (or worst??) examples, along with America, to showcase the white man’s Greed and Psychopathy.

    Anyway, my point about “ethnic-mafia working for own group benefit” is still fully applicable.

    • Replies: @ANON
  96. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Iberiano

    You seem headstrong in your delusions. Not, good for you.

    Pagan Polytheist Human Worshipper, is what you are, and your 130+ IQ brain is simply mush in matters which count.

    http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/db0_onegod.htm

  97. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @gT

    Sunni Muslims are still ruled by the crypto-Jewish House of Saud

    Nonsense. Sunni Muslims are only “ruled” by that scum crypto-whatever House of Saud, lickspittle of the imperialists and zionists, insofar their pilgrimage is concerned.

    Our beloved leader and ruler died centuries ago. Apart from the laws of the land we live in, we are only ruled by Books now.

  98. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    We have a right to exist, as a people.

    Yes, and so did the people who were victims of genocide by the white racist.

    You white racists are scum of the first order.

  99. Svigor says:

    Ah, so you’ve discovered the connection between NPD and Jewish behavior. It is indeed a very illuminating lens with which to examine Jewish behavior. Almost uncanny.

    I’ve read up on it before, but your mention drove me to look again, and I was struck anew. It’s a clear-cut case. To the point that you’d think that Jews were working feverishly to have it stricken from the manuals.

    I wonder if Svigor has ever met actual Jewish people or if they just exist as symbols in his mind.

    I don’t know many personally today, but I knew a few growing up. Some I liked, the rest were snobs. I’ve said many times that my criticism of Jews is relevant at the group level, but not so much at the personal level. Jews tend to be quite personable; I don’t mean to say they are narcissists (though they probably do tend a bit more that way than Whites), I say they are ethnic narcissists, which is similar, but quite distinct.

    Put another way, I don’t blame my dentist for any of this, and I don’t stare daggers at him when he turns his back. This isn’t personal for me in that way. I’m the same way with blacks, btw; I get along quite well with them, personally. On the other hand, I do know that being too honest with individual Jews about their group’s behavior and history is a great way to make Jews unpersonable in a hurry.

  100. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @norse nestor

    there is no such thing as a stupid question, there are only stupid answers

    That cliche itself is stupid. Here is an example, in line with the spiritual nature of this thread;

    Is God three or four or a million?

    Of course the stupid answer to that stupid question, would be; Yes.

  101. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Whites’ trust of Jews is projection; they project their own honest natures onto Jews

    Honest!

    Sigh!

  102. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    and destroy Christianity which used to be the moral basis of white society.

    When you have a faith system which has only thrived on deceit and constant “tweaking,” sure you will have a hard time meeting the challenge of keeping it alive.

    http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/m01_religion.htm

    It is after all fair this way. You can’t have great success and glory everywhere… in this world and the hereafter.

    You fellows have clearly made your choice, so be ready for much squealing as you stand your polytheist asses at the gates of Hell.

  103. @AaronB

    That’s all coherent enough and I think your point about the need for self-defence to be grounded in a sense of moral self worth has merit. But how and when have Jews (which Jews btw?) attacked Christians’ self worth as you suggest? When you write of the “amoral systems” that have been attacked I am surprised that you rate Jewish attacks anywhere the Christian traditional attacks on preferring Mammon to God. And it was Christians who made other Christians feel bad about slavery, looting the Indian states and long factory hours for children.

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  104. Seraphim says:
    @polskijoe

    For sure the FM played a role*, but not more than the rot which gnawed at the Church body for a long time. You may have an idea (incomplete) from Wikipedia:

    “The Opus sacerdotale Amici Israel was an international Roman Catholic association founded in Rome in February 1926. Its purpose was to pray for the conversion of the Jews and to promote a favorable attitude towards them within the Roman Catholic Church. In the first year of its existence, this association was composed of 19 cardinals, 300 bishops and about 3,000 priests. The Opus was dissolved by the Holy Office in March 1928.
    Its ideas were outlined in leaflets written in Latin and circulated among the clergy. Its first request to the Church was that the word “perfidis”, which described the Jews during the Good Friday Prayer for the Jews, be removed, since some believed the prayer could be interpreted as anti-Semitic.
    Pope Pius XI asked the Congregation of Rites for to consider the proposed reform. Cardinal Schuster, who was among the Amici Israel, was appointed to monitor this issue; his congregation authorized the proposed reform. However, the Holy Office, under its secretary Cardinal Merry del Val, objected to the change on doctrinal grounds.
    The decree from the Holy Office which suppressed the association upheld on the one hand the traditional Catholic belief in supersessionism and the need to pray for the conversion of the Jews and, on the other hand, firmly condemned racist antisemitism. “The Catholic Church has always prayed for the Jewish people, depositories, until the coming of Jesus Christ, of the divine promise, regardless of their subsequent blindness, or rather, precisely because of it. Moved by that spirit of charity, the Apostolic See has protected this same people against unjust vexations, and just as it reproves all hatreds and animosities between people, so it especially condemns hatred against the people elected by God, a hatred that today is vulgarly called ‘anti-Semitism’.”

    What Wikipedia carefully hides is the role played by Jewish ‘conversos’. The central role was played by Maria Franceska van Leer, scion of a rich Netherlands Jewish family, who evolved from Spartakism (she was a friend of Rosa Luxemburg). Arrested in Munich in 1919 and sentence to death for revolutionary activities (involvement in the Soviet Revolution in Bavaria of Kurt Eisner), undertook a conversion in jail and became the soul of a group of Netherlands priests along with whom dedicated her life to the conversion of the Jews. She was an ardent Zionist. From her own declarations the endeavors of the Amici Israel was less the conversion of the Jews than the ‘changing the attitudes of Christians towards Jews’ making them understand the Jewishness of the Christ and therefore that they have to love (ardently and profoundly!) the Jews (in other words the conversion of Christians to Judaism!) and of course to make amends (and ‘reparations’) for the ‘centuries of prejudices’.
    Neither does Wiki speak a word of the official founder Fr. Anton van Asseldonk and of his falling in love passionately with ‘the people who saw the birth of Mary and Jesus’! The details are too nauseating. It wouldn’t come as a surprise if Father Anton Van Asseldonk was himself a converted Jew!

    Now, there is certainly a difference in the motivations of the ‘conversos’ who became Jesuits and the modern converts like the Amici Israel. Whereas the Spanish conversos were among the most cogent, vocal and effective exposers of the rabid anti-Christian stance of the ‘people (allegedly) loved by the Christ’, the modern ones were (and are) its shameless adulators.

    *An official commentary on the suppression decree [of the suppression of Amici Israel] that appears in Civiltà Cattolica stated:
    “The Jewish herd threatens the whole world by intrigues and subversion… especially …among Catholics and Latins, where the old liberalism has greatly favored the Hebrews, while persecuting Catholics and above all the religions congregations.
    This danger grows more pressing every day, and our magazine has the means to recognize it… to denounce and document this peril by solid proofs and facts of its frequent and undeniable alliance with freemasons, carboneria, and other societies, camouflaged as patriotic… but in reality wanting to subvert… contemporary society, religion and civilization”.

  105. gT says:

    The House of Saud has lots and lots of $$$$$, some of which they spend on mosques, madrasas and imams all over the world. And those imams lead the faithful in the directions desired by the House of Saud.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  106. polskijoe says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    How do you fix the Liberal and leftist attitudes in the West? Their culture and religoin is dying.
    Im not a liberal, trad, or conservative. i kinda mix them.

    leftists are hard to reprogram. the elites are heavily liberal. through in some Muslilms,
    they will mix or change mind? you create a dominate white person with some Turkic/Arabic/ ancestry,
    and they become almost like a “white” person in Latin America.
    that assumes they dont adopt liberals or continue Islam.

    its a tough case. im not a racial purist, but sometimes that “purity” can help or not help.

    Jews are not racially pure (not even close). They are heavily ethnocentric, then religious.

    When a European/white person mixes with a foreign person, they often are no longer called Europea/white.

    a Jew marries and thhe offspring is 50/50 or they are 1/8 Jewish later on and many of them still clinge to the Jew part. (not always but usually).

  107. @AaronB

    Your entire basal argumentation have a fundamental purpose: take from jews MOST of the responsibility of all idiotic things are happening right now…

    What i already said

    You can’t blame cattle to be cattle, they no have enough responsibility for themselves, you must blame those who have more responsibility, both, in potential and in achievement…

    You can’t blame the avg humanity student which just follow the major guidelines of its department AND often have some instinctive or pre-dispositions to be highly sympathetic with leftist point of views…

    You must blame those who are CONSCIOUSLY or DELIBERATELY inventing this over-abstract theories and hypothesis AND those who are in the control of this thoughts/action market and they are mostly jews…. the white race extinction project IS a jewish itself, it’s not white…

    yes AAARON…

    • Replies: @AaronB
  108. AaronB says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Wizard, that is too large a question to be addressed here.

    I take it for granted that Jews have been undermining white moral self worth and have been attacking Christianity as the basis of white moral self worth. To a certain extent unz.com is a collection of evidence for this fact.

    I substantially agree with Kevin McDonald’s description of Jewish behavior, although I disagree with him that it is genetic, and that white vulnurability is genetic, and I also think Jews will ultimately be rehabilitated.

    My opinion has its basis in years of close and continuing personal contact with Jews, who I grew up among, and still have many friends among.

    As for which Jews, certainly not all. There are many, many good Jews.

    When you write of the “amoral systems” that have been attacked I am surprised that you rate Jewish attacks anywhere the Christian traditional attacks on preferring Mammon to God. And it was Christians who made other Christians feel bad about slavery, looting the Indian states and long factory hours for children.

    You are misunderstanding me here. Jews have attacked Western civilization as having forfeited moral legitimacy – see, as an exampke, Sontag.

    When whites look at their own civilization, they see it dominated by abstract systems that are not concerned with morality, and don’t know how to answer this Jewish charge.

    The Christian attacks on Mammon are an attempt to reform white culture and ground it in a moral basis, and are healthy, good, and necessary.

    The Jewish attack is on whites and white civilization as such – again, see Sontag. It’s accusatory and condemnatory, and aims at destruction. and replacement by outside elements. It is not self-critical and aiming at internal reform.

    You are very right that Christians and other whites have long been fierce critics of the dominant abstract systems – McDonald briefly flirts with the notion that the culture of critique has white antecedents, and singles out the New England Transcendenralists. He might have expanded on this at length – my thesis, as you may know, is that before Jews came onto the scene whites became disgusted with their own abstract civilization, and this provided an entree for Jews.

    But this serves to prove my point – Western civilization has come to be seen as so completely dominated by abstract amoral systems, that any opposition to this has come to be seen as “anti-Western” – in fact, an opposition can be based on pre-modern Western traditions, and frequently has.

    But this has been forgotten, and morality had been outsourced, as it were, or surrendered, to elements that aim at destruction and not reform.

    And it’s largely a self-inflicted wound.

  109. AaronB says:
    @Santoculto

    You are wrong. I heavily implicate Jews and hgave plainly stated they are a huge factor in what is happening.

    I have been utterly consistent in all my criticisms – I am against ego and materialism wherever I find it, and impartially attacks whites, Jews, or modern Chinese, whenever they exemplify those qualities.

    Jews, as the best modern exemplars of these values, I criticize most fiercely, as my comments show, but that doesn’t mean I spare whites or close my eyes to facts.

    I have also made clear that I infinitely prefer pre-modern European culture to Jewish culture, consider it vastly superior in ethics, and limit my attacks to modern Western culture only.

    Since I am not a Darwinist, I don’t attack any group racially.

    In any war, you have to understand your own vulnerabily. Self-pity does not get you very far.

    The Germans did not merely blame the French for their defeat, but sought to understand their own weaknesses that allowed such a calamity to hapen, and emerged stronger. They did not wallow in self-pity.

    Ultimately my vision is far more optimistic of a white future, and respectful of whites – your vision paints a disturbing picture of whites as impotent pygmies geneticaly doomed to victimhood in a globalized world.

    • Replies: @Santoculto
  110. Malla says:
    @AaronB

    Does anyone really want this? People may envy Jewish power, but does anyone really want to be like them? Aside from their power, does anyone really admire or envy them? They are a rather miserable and joyless people, rather to be pitied, and in my view are in urgent need of a moral and psychological regeneration.

    A bunch of Euros will have to become like Jews and indeed learn to outJew the Jew. They will be protectors of the rest of Euros from the psychological tactics used against them by Jews or say Asian Indians. They will have to become like Jews so that the rest of Euros can still behave like Euros. That bunch will have to become joyless miserable people, a sacrifice they will have to make to save their people. Many such groups should be launched.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  111. Malla says:
    @anonymous

    The greatest plunderers of foreign wealth have been the European-descended whites. This unabashed thievery has been one of the main catalysts for the success of their nations.

    This stupid Marxist theory has not only harmed Whites but also third world darkies like me. Whites became rich because of the Industrial revolution and high IQ/ productivity. Finalnd never had colonies but became rich. Hong Kong was a colony until very recently but was very rich. Spain and Portugal who had big empires were poor by European standards. This stupid, Whites became rich by looting others lie must die. It damages us darkies too.
    The truth is even if Whites would not have any empires, they would have become rich and first world while the rest of the world would have been even poorer.

  112. polskijoe says:
    @AaronB

    And you just mentioned Freemasonry (whether you knew it or not).

    Freemasons emanuciapted the Jews. Freemasons split up (some more organized, others less).
    Jews joined the Scottish Rite from almost the beginning.
    Then they created their own Bnai Brith.

    On January 21, 1793 King Louis XVI of France was guillotined. After the execution a huge old man with a long beard who had been prominent in the murdering of priests during the September riots mounted the scaffold, plunged both hands into the king’s blood and sprinkled the people with it, shouting: “People of France! I baptize you in the name of Jacob and Freedom!”[1]
    Thus in the two years before the crucial debate on September 27, 1791, writes General Nechvolodov, “fourteen attempts were made to give the Jews civic equality and thirty-five major speeches were given by several orators, among them Mirabeau, Robespierre, Abbé Grégoire, Abbé Sièyes, Camille, Desmoulins, Vernier, Barnave, Lameth, Duport and others.
    “’Now there is a singular comparison to be made,’ says Abbé Lemann, ‘- all the names which we have just cited and which figure in the Moniteur as having voted for the Jews are also found on the list of Masons… Is this coincidence not proof of the order given, in the lodges of Paris, to work in favour of Jewish emancipation?’

    orthodoxchristianbooks

  113. AaronB says:
    @Malla

    Sort of like Platonic guardians, I guess.

    Your comment has the merit of understanding that thinking and behaving likes jews is actually a recipe for misery. Too many people see only the fake glamour.

    There is a method of defeating narcissists that does not involve joining their joyless club.

    Narcissists operate by undermining your sense of self-worth and trust in your own judgement.

    They expose your weaknesses, they don’t create them. In that sense they are almost doing you favor. If you are firmly grounded in a sense of self- worth you are invulnerable.

    Cultivating doubt, as whites did, may be great for discovering scientific laws, but it makes it easy for people who want to undermine your trust in yourself.

    Whites have no firm grounding in anything – they have no firm basis in anything. They cultivate doubt while others cultivate certainty.

    Whites are in urgent need of planting their feet on the ground and grounding themselves in something unshakeable.

    They will then have no chink in the armor fir narcissists to exploit.

    • Replies: @Malla
  114. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    There has been a country sustaining the ancient Jewish civilization – the country of Palestine. https://www.ancient.eu/palestine/
    “Palestine in the ancient world was part of the region known as Canaan and, later, the region where the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah were located.”
    The native Palestinians are not some Polish Mielkovskies, puny German “Ben Gurion,” thuggish Ukrainian Zhabotinsky and Moldovan Lieberman, and other creepy “chosen” of uncertain ancestry. Palestinians are the true descendants of ancient Jewish people.

  115. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    “Wrong, and wrong. East Asian mean is around 105, and you have to cherry-pick to put their mean above that of Jews.”
    — Average national IQs according to IQ and Global Inequality (2002) https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

    Rank Country IQ
    1 Hong Kong 108
    1 Singapore 108
    2 South Korea 106
    3 Japan 105
    3 China 105
    4 Taiwan 104
    —————————
    12 Israel 95
    12 Portugal 95

  116. @Brabantian

    Chinese, Jewish and Indian elites are, as often happen with most elites, predatory levels… And Jewish elites in diaspora is maybe at half strongly affected by their own machinations, maybe because they born that way…

    Predatory and parasitic nature…

    And most of moral issues ((( ))) have used is at very high intellectual/philosophical relevance. If Chinese and Indian elites in diaspora are not capable to understand them it’s don’t mean they are better…

  117. @AaronB

    If your “vision of future” is optimistic in any instance even if whitey will be capable to change things seems from simpleton to negligent.

    Well, it’s what whites are on very average, as well most people.

    I tried to understand what you want to say but I’m not versed in poisoned language of clever snakes… Sorry.

    But it’s doesn’t change about your real attitudes here and not what you tried to manipulate as expected from you..

    Your try to exemplify why “self pity/don’t blame Jews” about Germans just confirm what I said.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  118. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    You must then know that America magazine is as unCatholic as any enemy could wish for. There is indeed a truly ‘ Jesuit’ Jesuit wing in the US, but not America magazine.

    Of course there are faithful Jesuits, birds of a feather fly together. Who studies, teaches and cites Henry de Lubac, Hans Urs Von Balthasar, Romano Guardini, Josef Pieper, Joseph Ratzinger? Or the Fathers, Aristotle and Plato? It is easy, really, either a priest reflects the face of Christ or he does not.

    In truth, the Jesuits were highly successful, and even today they do good work, well chosen, even in the US. But the Jesuit order, with its vow of obedience to the Pope, and its charism as counsellors to kings and fine educators, was always targeted by enemies of the Church, particularly the Freemasons. But it was true in Elizabethan England also. And at some points in history, they, defenders of the altar and the throne, were accused of plotting against kings, and that cited as reasons for their dissolution.

    When annihilation by decree did not work, they were targeted in 19-20th C. for outright murder by the state (yes with even a famous non-Jesuit Jew leading the charge in Spain) or condemned to hunger by exclaustration/expropriation/bans from working. It is a testament to the enduring Christian spirit of the order that they still exist.

    Jewish conversion per se is wholly Christian, as was the case of the Apostles, or Teresa de Avila or more recently Edith Stein and the Chief Rabbi of Rome in WWII, Israel Zolli, who converted after witnessing the life of Pio XII, paid the price, and took the baptismal name of Eugenio.

    I actually find the thrust of the article very funny. If I were anti-Catholic, and very subtle, I would write such an article. It posits that one of the Catholic culture bulwarks was subversive from the beginning, and attracts attention to today’s Jesuits which are indeed beleaguered. The all powerful Jews, they always triumph! So characteristic of our time, so self-defeating, to only find evil outside ourselves.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Seraphim
  119. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Enjoy! — “The Fraud of Freud,” by Jimmie Moglia for the Saker blog: http://thesaker.is/the-fraud-of-freud/
    “… the ideas of Freud and of his nephew Edward Bernays still inspire the spirit of our times. Including a top-down ideology, imposed on the world at large by the hegemonic media, Hollywood and other trend-setting, cultural, academic and political sources – and even affecting, in some cases, the judicial system. It is not generally known that followers and heirs of the Freudian “scientific” doctrine have locked away a large number of Freud’s papers and letters in the Library of Congress, not to be accessed before the 22nd century.”

    More: “Freud was a fraud!” https://www.sott.net/article/371156-Freud-was-a-fraud

    • Replies: @gT
  120. AaronB says:
    @Santoculto

    The difference between us seems to be that you oppose Jews simply because you see them as an enemy of your people, not because being immoral, materialistic, and arrogant is bad per se.

    Since your oposition is based on self-interest and not principle, you naturally don’t look favorably on my impartial criticism of whites and Jews alike when they manifest these bad qualities.

    This is understandable, if not very noble.

    If you can’t distinguish between constructive criticism aimed at rehabilitation and criticism aiming to destroy then you are depriving yourself of a basic and necesary tool needed for effective functioning in the world, and being rather childish.

    • Replies: @Santoculto
  121. @AaronB

    What a lot of interesting lines to follow up. Allow me a small first query. I am not well acquainted with Sontag’s work but; as it happens, became a friend of Philip Rieff, her first (?only) husband, in the 80s and don’t remember him at all as an enemy of Western civilisation. Indeed I rather remember him as an old fashioned moralist who would have expected leading Christians and Jews to support him if not corrupted by the “remissive” matriarchal tendencies of the times. But I don’t claim to have read enough of his work to be able to say where he would have stood in relation to Sontag. Can you?

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  122. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    I come across quite a lot of young people of limited education, knowledge and!or intelligence who express themselves like you so I wonder whether it is worth replying. Are you familiar, even at second hand, with the works and influence of The Rev. Thomas Malthus? Can you see where the concepts of a pre- and post- Mathusian world, and the transition might be fitted in to any attempt to moralise about the past as you do?

  123. AaronB says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Very interesting.

    I don’t know enough about Rieff as I should, but my understanding of him is that his criticisms of Western culture are aimed at reform and not destruction and replacement by foreign elements.

    As such, he would be an example of a good, honest, and sincere Jew who is a friend to Western civilization.

    As far as I understand he was deeply critical of Freud and other Jewish intellectuals whose work was primarily destructive.

    As for his relation to Sontags thought, I don’t know enough to say, except that he clearly would have rejected her description of whites as the cancer of the human race, it seems to me. Am I wrong?

    Another good Jew I like whose criticism of American culture is based on moral principles and not ethnic animus is Morris Berman, who is a contemporary writer and whose books are well worth reading.

    Are some Jews friends of Western civilization? Of course, without question.

    And not all criticism is destructive, as Santoculto imagines.

  124. @AaronB

    The difference between us seems to be that you oppose Jews simply because you see them as an enemy of your people, not because being immoral, materialistic, and arrogant is bad per se.

    White people is not my people, my people is everyone who really wants to enjoy real wisdom in real time BUT because this people are considerably fragmented in different aspects on different real people, i must need adapt to my reality and it’s mean tolerates high doses of unwisdom coming from people which i’m engaging in relationships of all intimacy levels…

    Jews, as a clearly parasitic species, are enemies of all people’s, and because their/your parasitic nature, they are enemy of real wisdom…

    Since your oposition is based on self-interest and not principle, you naturally don’t look favorably on my impartial criticism of whites and Jews alike when they manifest these bad qualities.

    ALL people included you, specially YOUR REAL AARON, are based on self interest FIRSTLY and subsequently or not try to fit other people/being/things/ideas or guidelines within it’s self-interest-circle.

    You just confirm how evil you are with this retarded and very childish machinations always trying to helps your extremely stupid tribe…

    All principles are in their beggining via self interest…

    This is understandable, if not very noble.

    Based on old or pure concept of what the word noble mean…

    But based on the possibly corrupted concept of nobleness [= kindness] indeed ALL jews who always defend nearly everything other jews do or collectively, are everything, less noble.

    If you can’t distinguish between constructive criticism aimed at rehabilitation and criticism aiming to destroy then you are depriving yourself of a basic and necesary tool needed for effective functioning in the world, and being rather childish.

    ”rehabilitate”…

    seems a very soft way to describe this things.

    I’m not and i never say whites are beyond criticism as a perpretrator or as a victim. BUT… cattle is cattle and farmer is farmer.

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  125. @gT

    Have you caught up with the fact that Saudi Arabia’s finances no longer allow the House of Said to behave with the profligate irresponsibility you describe? It is one of the reasons they are now costing up to Israel.

    • Replies: @gT
  126. gT says:
    @Anonymous

    And in the comments section of that Saker link is some interesting info about Einstein


    Ray on January 02, 2018 · at 1:30 pm UTC

    Freud, Einstein, and many of the leaders of Communism of that era were promoted as geniuses by the Jewish dominated media and publishing industry. It was all part of the myth to portray Jews as a superior race. Both Jews and gentiles bought into the delusion; And that’s how we end up with apartheid fascism in Israel and Anti-Christian Zionism in the US.

    Reply

    B.F. on January 02, 2018 · at 2:30 pm UTC

    Many have questioned Freud’s methods and theories, openly accusing him of promoting perversion and destroying the family, the chief unit in a country. He certainly had the backing of the Zionist media in the US, just like Einstein did. As for Einstein, the media went out of the way to conceal the fact that between the two world wars, Einstein was in American academic circles the most hated “scientist” in the US, as everybody knew he stole the theory of relativity from a German scientist, whose name I forget. Einstein married a Serbian girl, Mileva Marich, who was a mathematician. It was she who did his math homework for him, as he was incapable of such endeavors, having failed his math exam in high school. In the end she divorced him, after discovering whom she married.

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  127. @Bryan

    Hey man,

    Happy New Year. Apologies in advance for the stalking, but I was reading your past comment history, and noticed that you dropped out of Columbia in 2010.

    Briefly, I am a working-class male with conservative, right-wing beliefs– who else comes on this site?– and am contemplating matriculation at a number of these elite universities, but for law school. It’s been half a decade since I’ve been in a classroom, and I’ve veered so far right to the fringes of political discourse that I’m afraid I might just hate the climate. That and I’m also older than everyone else. I just need the degree.

    Did you have a hard time interacting with professors? Did you find it possible to conceal your political beliefs? How many conservatives were there really on such campuses?

    Thank you,

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    , @Silva
  128. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @polskijoe

    Thank you for the clarification. Conversos are any who convert. ‘Marrano’ which means both pig (as goyim does) and jewish fake convert, is more pejorative and, imo, is used orally more than in writing, particularly in the English speaking world. I remember being surprised that, for example, WT Walsh did not use “Marrano” but the really confusing “Converso”.

    So as another Catholic, I wholeheartedly agree with your phrase “if you believe in Christ.. and work honestly.. That is good enough for me.”

    People in many parts of the world, and Spain for certain, understand the jewish modus operandi. I think it is the english speaking world, specifically the US, that is somehow surprised and amazed at their new-found perceptiveness. At least from the comments here at Unz Review. On the other hand, there’s an obliviousness about Free Masonry that is remarkable.

  129. AaronB says:
    @Santoculto

    You can be my enemy and hate me, Santoculto, but for myself I have no hostility or hatred towards you.

    I will continue to answer your comments when I can.

  130. @Anon

    Anonymous to Chuck Orloski: “There is a truly “Jesuit” Jesuit wing in the US, but not in America Magazine.”

    Hi Anon,

    By degree on your sentence above, I disagree.

    Am not inclined to find total evil in either the Zio NYT or Zio WSJ. But upon manifestation, such does not stop me from seeing it.

    So as far as your comment’s thoughtful last words on the defeatist human predeliction for finding “evil outside ourselves,” below is an America Magazine memorium on the late Father John Kavanaugh S.J. who I admired, considered quite a teacher, and he plain spokenly wrote on “All Things” happening in our “beleagured” world.

    https://www.americamagazine.org/content/all-things/john-kavanaugh-sj-1941-2012

    Thanks, Anonymous.

  131. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @gT

    “Einstein’s Plagiarism of the General Theory of Relativity” by Christopher Jon Bjerknes: https://www.amazon.com/Einsteins-Plagiarism-General-Theory-Relativity/dp/1544900872
    “Republishes the relevant papers of Einstein’s predecessors, captures the history of the major priority disputes and exposes how Einstein manipulated credit for the work of others. … David Hilbert had a generally covariant theory of gravitation before Einstein.”

  132. @El Dato

    Note that “monopoly” is a special feature of state-managed economies, this would be a misfeature to lay at the feet of the Royal House of Spain (rapacious idiots anyway). Why is it in that list?

    “States”, like monopolies, are a Jewish thing.

  133. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Andy Byron

    For any other field I would bring up Khan Academy. One of the happiest possible resolutions of the current destruction of academia would be the elimination of the credibility of Oberlins and the rise and recognition of no-frills STEM schools. It is possible that in law education, the rot is so bad that joining the bar means holding your nose and superficially endorsing Communism.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  134. Seraphim says:
    @AaronB

    @Jews have been undermining white moral self worth and have been attacking Christianity as the basis of white moral self worth

    The reason for which Jews are undermining Christianity has been clearly exposed by Saint Paul:

    “14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: 15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: 16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost” (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16).

    Their attacks are on Christ and the Way which he showed us and on the society which was organized following that Way*, not on any ‘white moral self worth’.

    *”The Epistle of the Emperor Constantine, concerning the matters transacted at the Council, addressed to those Bishops who were not present”:
    “… it appeared an unworthy thing that in the celebration of this most holy feast [Pascha]we should follow the practice of the Jews, who have impiously defiled their hands with enormous sin, and are, therefore, deservedly afflicted with blindness of soul … Let us then have nothing in common with the detestable Jewish crowd; for we have received from our Saviour a different way.”
    “It was, in the first place, declared improper to follow the custom of the Jews in the celebration of this holy festival, because, their hands having been stained with crime, the minds of these wretched men are necessarily blinded. … Let us, then, have nothing in common with the Jews, who are our adversaries. … Let us … studiously avoiding all contact with that evil way. … For how can they entertain right views on any point who, after having compassed the death of the Lord, being out of their minds, are guided not by sound reason, but by an unrestrained passion, wherever their innate madness carries them. … lest your pure minds should appear to share in the customs of a people so utterly depraved. … Therefore, this irregularity must be corrected, in order that we may no more have any thing in common with those parricides and the murderers of our Lord. … no single point in common with the perjury of the Jews.”

    “Western society” was born when the western parts of Christendom started to depart from the Christian Way.

  135. @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    The United States of America was constituted because Old World Hates were not working to solve Old World Problems.

    That is something of an overstatement, but there is much truth to it all the same.

    Unfortunately, this attempt to solve old word problems has spawned problems of a much greater magnitude.

  136. RCCer Robert Aleksander Maryks writes a book about conversos, who were small in number and eventually died out (because of priestly celibacy). During the time of these conversos there was a worry about “blood purity.” But, again, the small numbers involved would have not mattered. I don’t know if Mr. Maryks is a practicing RCCer, but it would be interesting to find out if he is and if he accepts black/Asian priests-popes.

    This book, a history about the past, may have some value but the big issues facing the West today are the influx of black/Asian/Muslim hordes. Would Mr. Maryks accept these peoples if they converted?j Would he worry about the purity of their blood? Maybe he could write a book about these problems and see how they relate to this book. The Jesuits were viewed as a synagogue of Satan, but the present day RCC is a homosexual, multi-culti grand lodge, same difference.

    • Replies: @Alden
  137. Cortes says:
    @Steve Sailer

    A reading of Waugh’s biography of Ronald Knox might lead the observer to conclude that possibly there’s a touch of the “Catholic Kings” about the two of them:

    Más papistas que el Papa or “More Papist Than the Pope.” Which kind of feeds into the theme of the article.

    Both Knox and Waugh were converts from family backgrounds rooted in, ahem, fundamentalist (Taliban like) anti-Catholicism. Both identified with ethereal upper class notions of Catholicism wildly at variance with the experience of the overwhelming majority of correligionaries in Britain. The worldliness of the Jesuits may explain the Rothschild joke.

    I love most Waugh but his Catholicism is that of the sick puppy. Nauseating.

    • Replies: @utu
  138. Sam J. says:
    @polskijoe

    “…How hard is to remove the Judaism (whether its Torah, Talmud, or other Kaballah) and confirm an actual conservos who is legimite?…”

    I believe this is the wrong question. The fundamental outlook the question is based on is at fault. The real question is why have any Jews at all in any organization of Whites? We shouldn’t let them in, near, around or listen to anything they say about any organization we have. Everything they infiltrate turns to shit.

  139. Sam J. says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    “…2) Don’t make it about race…”

    This is bad advice because the underlying problem is the race of the Jews and their hatred for everyone not Jewish. I suspect the author of this comment wants you to waste your time arguing about ethics with the Jews, they’re very good at arguing, instead of realizing that the Jews are a different race, they hate you and that everything they touch will turn to shit. Dealing with them, realizing the “turn to shit” method, means you don’t allow them any control over anything and it will not turn to shit. It’s much simpler and guaranteed to work every time. Andrew Joyce present article is an exact play by play of how to deal with them to keep whatever it is you have from being turned into shit. Get them away from you and allow them no control. Deport them. Take away power from them and then…live the good life. Life will be easier, brighter and much happier without them. They are a blight.

    A simple example would be the Byzantine Empire. The longest living Empire ever in the History of planet Earth. I can’t remember all the restrictions but they did not allow the Jews to lend money or be teachers. That covers a lot of ground by itself.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  140. Sam J. says:

    Andrew Joyce every article I read of yours is fascinating. You lay out such a breathe of of history and knowledge that few of us have in such an entertaining and illuminating fashion that reading gives hope that a small portion of your vast store of history and intellect will wash off on us and make us better. Thank you very much.

  141. utu says:
    @Steve Sailer

    In Thomas Mann’s The Magic Mountain Naphta is a former Jesuit of Jewish ancestry:

    Naphta was born a Jew but joined the Society of Jesuits and became a Hegelian Marxist. The character was a parody of the philosopher George Lukács, who “plainly has not recognized himself in Naphta”, wrote Mann in a 1949 letter.

  142. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    @Jewish conversion per se…

    All the ‘discussion’ is premised on the lack of sincerity of Jewish conversions and on the presumed malfeasance of the Kings of Spain who expelled the Jews out of pure malevolence (because they were “JOOOS”), neglecting the fact that the driving force behind the decree was the first Grand Inquisitor of Spain, Tomas de Torquemada, himself of converso ancestry. Also the assassination of the Inquisitor Pedro de Arbuez in 1485 by a plot that conversos and Jews planned and carried out, which provoked a popular movement against the Jews.
    Historical facts, of course, largely contradict this ‘tragic story’. Incontrovertible facts that even Wikipedia could not conceal in spite of its efforts to extenuate the whole purport of its disclosure:

    “As a result of the Alhambra decree and persecution in prior years, over 200,000 Jews converted to Catholicism and between 40,000 and 100,000 were expelled, an indeterminate number returning to Spain in the years following the expulsion.
    Throughout history, scholars have given widely differing numbers of Jews expelled from Spain. However, the figure is likely to be below the 100,000 Jews who had not yet converted to Christianity by 1492, possibly as low as 40,000. Many went to Portugal, gaining only a few years of respite from persecution. The Jewish community in Portugal (perhaps then some 10% of that country’s population) were then declared Christians by royal decree unless they left.
    Such figures exclude the significant number of Jews who returned to Spain due to the hostile reception they received in their countries of refuge, notably Fez (Morocco). The situation of returnees was legalized with the Ordinance of the 10 of November 1492 which established that civil and church authorities should be witness to baptism and, in the case that they were baptized before arrival, proof and witnesses of baptism were required. Furthermore, all property could be recovered by returnees at the same price at which it was sold. Returnees are documented as late as 1499. On the other hand, the Provision of the Royal Council of 24 of October 1493 set harsh sanctions for those who slandered these New Christians with insulting terms such as tornadizos…
    A majority of Spain’s Jewish population had converted to Christianity during the waves of religious persecutions prior to the Decree—a total of 200,000 converts according to Joseph Pérez. Ensuring the definite conversion of such a large convert population was one of the main objectives of the expulsion of practicing Jews. Of the 100,000 Jews that remained true to their faith by 1492, an additional number chose to convert and join the converso community rather than face expulsion. Recent conversos were subject to additional suspicion by the Inquisition, which persecuted religious heresy with a strong focus on Judaism. Additionally, Limpieza de Sangre Statutes* instituted legal discrimination against converso descendants, barring them from certain positions and forbidding them from emigrating to the Americas. Such measures slowly faded away as converso identity was forgotten and this community merged into Spain’s dominant Catholic culture.

    *The first statute of purity of blood appeared in Toledo, Spain, 1449, where an anti-converso riot succeeded in obtaining a ban on conversos and their descendants from most official positions. Initially, these statutes were condemned by the monarchy and the Church”. The motivation was that the Jews descended from ‘deicides”, not that they were ‘Jooos’.

    • Replies: @Anon
  143. Sam J. says:
    @AaronB

    I agree with 100% with your characterization of the Jews but your proscriptions to deal with them leave a lot to be desired.

    “…While I reject the idea that Jews are a psychopathic race and don’t think it’s genetic…”

    This is 100% wrong. It is genetic. I’ve said that the Jews are a tribe of psychopaths over and over because…well they act like a tribe of psychopaths. That every single one of them are not raging psychopaths doesn’t in the slightest change the total picture of what I said. It’s really just a quibble because every single society that I know of that has had a substantial number of Jews more into it the end result is the same as if a tribe of psychopaths moved in so even if I’m wrong to assume they are a tribe of psychopaths is valid to describe the interaction.

    To be more fine grained about it assume that the ones at the top are full psychopaths and the rest have some sort of brain abnormality, as compared to normal humans.

    “…One way is to learn from them and become like them….”

    A little of this would be good.

    “…People may envy Jewish power, but does anyone really want to be like them? …”

    No.

    “…They need to be fought, but all men of good will may hope and pray for their future rehabilitation however far off such a future may be.

    No hatred – awareness, countermeasures, yes. But no hatred…”

    I disagree. They hate us and it’s worked for them. We must push them out. We must push them away from us and force them to live in their shitty little country and from there they can do as they please but we should have no interaction with them. All studies I know of say that the best way to deal with psychopaths, or their tribal equivalent. is to get them the hell away from you. Why should we spend our lives dealing with these fucked up people? Why should we continue to deal with these wretched people who ever last interaction with you they try to dominate you? To hell with them, their souls, their children and their children’s children. Isn’t 4,000 years or more of abuse enough for you? Just exactly how many more years of these evil people must we submit ourselves to to be “good” people? I could care less about goodness at this point I want them away from us.

    “…Also, I can’t emphasize enough that any white resistance to Jews would depend on the prior moral and psychological regeneration of white culture…”

    This is so foolish that while reading it I assume you’re a Hasbara. Why do Whites need to be good to get rid of the Jews? They don’t. We can get rid of the Jews “first” then we’ll work on goodness. We don’t need Jews to be good. They don’t define goodness nor are they good nor are they a role model for goodness so we simply don’t need them at all.

    “…white specialization in abstraction made them vulnerable to moral and psychological attack…”

    Babbling nonsense. We have the Jews preying on us because we are nice people who want to give people a benefit of a doubt that they will be good like WE wish ourselves to be. That we are not always good has nothing to do with the idea that many of us aspire to be. You’re just throwing out stupid ideas that have nothing to do with the plague of the Jews among us and blaming their evil ass behavior on Whites. To hell with you. You don’t like Whites go somewhere on the planet where there’s none. Problem solved. Go find your perfect people in the jungle or desert or where ever but don’t tell us we need to cater to the Jews “to be good”. Nonstarter.

    “…whites forfeited the moral, emotional, and psychological level to their enemies by specializing entirely in abstract thinking and creating a culture dominated by abstract, a-moral, a-emotional systems like science, capitalism, technology, etc….”

    More lies and bullshit. What does thinking one way or another have to do with the evil behavior of the Jews? NOTHING, that’s what. Typical Jew lies and bullshit to put conditions on others behavior and THEN magically the Jew problem will be solved. OK, this time why don’t we try something different, get rid of the Jews, THEN we’ll work on these other problems.

    “…this neglect of the emotional and psychological side has resulted in tremendous weaknesses…”

    Oh guess we should take cues from the Jews who mass murdered 60 million Russians. Have you read of what they did? I guess their emotional side is what brought them through. To hell with your lies and bullshit.

    “…What is needed is something new…”

    Agree with you here. Get rid of the Jews forever and never ever, ever let them in any White country for all eternity. That’s new.

  144. Sam J. says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    “…Teach your children Latin, Greek, or Sanskrit … or even: Hebrew, if for no other reason then so that they may better understand the Semitic language of the Copts and so that they may, as Leonardo Bruni advised, be better suited to hold disputations with the Jews…”

    Once again stupid Hasbara talk. We don’t need to learn Hebrew we need to get rid of the Jews. Get them away from us. Stop them from blackmailing our legislatures. Stop their control over our money supply with the FED and Jew bankers stealing everything with fiat money they create and charge us interest for. Stop them from murdering people in their false flags like 9-11 where building 7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped in air, meaning since building 7 fell the same speed it was itself only held up by air. Understanding them is not the problem. They are the problem. Somehow if “we” do this or that or the other this is supposed to help us with the Jew problem, Let’s get rid of the Jews first. then, let’s see if we still have a Jew problem. I bet we won’t.

    Any “prescription” for dealing with the Jews not based on getting them the hell away from us and stopping them controlling our destiny in any way is doomed to failure. The prescription is simple get rid of the Jews. Always work towards that resolution.

  145. Sam J. says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    “…One of the weird things about anti-semitism is the tendency of anti-semitists to notice the presence of Jewish communities when nations or societies go into decline but fail to account for their presence during the rise of the same…”

    More nonsense. More ridiculous distortions of the truth. Plenty of people notice this. The Jews move somewhere where a country is rising to rip it off. There’s more money in a rising economy.

    Somehow the Hasbara is crediting the Jews with making countries rise. We all know that’s a lie.

  146. Anon-og says:
    @AaronB

    You make Fascinating comments and commentary, thank you.

  147. Sam J. says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    “…Only by means of global Christian community awareness of the evil infiltration, & subsequent conversion, repentance, and a commitment to stay loyal to the Gospel…”

    This is a waste of time. You will never get perfection out of any of Mankind. If you were actually to exert any effort towards this endeavor it would be wasted when the real objective is to get rid of the Jews. All effort should be directly to get rid of the Jews. However. I’m all for them peacefully leaving but I don’t care how we get rid of them as long as they go.

  148. Sam J. says:
    @Svigor

    “…Just ban people of Jewish ancestry…”

    Finally someone with some common sense. Svigor a true Man of Men. Just get rid of them. Make them not our problem anymore. Let the Jews deal with their own psychopaths.

  149. utu says:
    @Cortes

    To be more Catholic than the Pope with Pope Francis is very easy.

  150. Sam J. says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    “…Ever read the Old Testament?…”

    The Old Testament is the rantings of a Demon God of the Israelites.

    Jesus knew this and said so.

    JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, 8:44 “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. – then answered the Jews — ” (which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)

    • Agree: Alden
  151. Sam J. says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    That was very, very interesting. I suspect this has happened much more than we know.

  152. Sam J. says:
    @Antlitz Grollheim

    “…If Jewishness is a distinct thing, its greatest strength is its impossibility to pin down. Is it biological? Is it a belief? …”

    I don’t know why people say these sorts of things. As if it’s some mystical unknowing thing we can never fathom. Jews are those that are descended from Jews. They’re a tribe. It’s all very simple.

    I wonder if this is not another case of a mass of nonsense thrown up to make people ponder…well ponder anything except the Jews are a horrendous problem we should solve by getting rid of them and letting them have no intercourse with us.

  153. Sam J. says:

    “…And this whites did to themselves…”

    Complete lies. Jews did what Jews did. Is it any simpler. If a guy stabs you with a knife in the middle of the mall would you go on and on about,”well he ought to know better than to go to the mall”, hell no you wouldn’t, you would ask why this maniac was in the mall in the first place. You would ask why we didn’t have security to stop maniacs in the mall. We have, or had, a country, a society and the Jews doing their best to destroy it is just the same as the nut stabbing people in the mall. I really don’t care what reason the Jews have I just want them to stop stabbing us in the back. All else is irrelevant. So all we have to ask is, when will we be done with the Jews stabbing us in the back and how do we go about that. What we do otherwise, be nice, be not nice, by holy, be not holy, be religious, be not religious, study Greek, not study Greek all this mindless bull thrown up to “somehow” blame Whites for the Jews stabbing us in back. It’s just MORE LIES and beside the whole point. The point is the Jews are a constant abomination with no solution but to get them away from us. We must get rid of the Jew. All our other problems we can then work on without the irritation, deceit and stabbing in the back that entails having Jews live among you.

  154. Sam J. says:
    @AaronB

    “…Whites need a moral and psychological rehabilitation if they are ever to recover….”

    Uhh…ok I’ll bite. To rehabilitate ourselves we need to break it down into to steps. Right. So step number one. What is the direct cause that is foremost in mind when people talk about the destruction of our culture. I don;t think there would any real serious disagreement that it’s the mass media run by the Jews. So the first step would be to get rid of the Jews. Get them away fro us. Stop them from having any influence on our society.

  155. Sam J. says:
    @polskijoe

    “…Again what is a Jew? No established definition….”

    The only reason I answer most all these is because of the constant annoying drip, drip, drip of Jew lies, deceit and nonsense that they blast our way over and over and over. I wish to show that their complicated quibble this and quibble that is…just more lies to distract you from what is the actual problem. The actual problem is not that we can’t tell who a Jew is, we can. The actual problem is not that we need some superhuman moral guidance with a triple treat majestic halo over our head goodness. No the problem is the JEW. That’s the problem. That’s the very most pressing and most important problem we have. All the others we will get by as we always have by muddling along but the Jew…if we don’t get rid of the Jew they will eventually find a way to murder us like they did the Russians. Stalin was a psychopathic sick fuck and if he had not realized how dangerous the Jew was to him and started holding back the Jew I could have seen the Jews kill every Russian. Stalin not being a Jew was the only thing that saved Russia. The only problem is how to get rid of the Jew. That’s it. All else is of no importance.

  156. Sam J. says:
    @FKA Max

    “…Is it too much to hope that a sizeable portion of the Jewish intellectual elite may come to see that their survival is intimately linked to ours?…”

    Yes it is too much to hope for because the Jews are genetically inclined to the way they are. Just like people are surprised when pit bulls attack people and tear them to pieces. Doesn’t surprise me. They’re breed to tear things to pieces. The Jew is breed to attack Whites and everyone else they can. Many Jews know this. They can’t help themselves. They always have to try and get a little dig in, take a little more, the comments here are a perfect example. Jews blathering on and on about what Whites should do to, measure up, or complete themselves, or whatever Jew dust they throw up to confuse the situation. They can’t help it. I can see the little gleam in their eyes as they type this drivel thinking how clever they are. We’re tired of you. We’ve had it with you Jews. The only question is how to get rid of you. You have no overall redeeming value. Summed up you turn everything to shit where ever you go. I assume you’re a tribe of psychopaths, because…you act like a tribe of psychopaths. Whether you are or not is irrelevant because the effects of you on any society you go to are those of a tribe of psychopaths. The only know cure for being set upon by psychopaths is to get them away from you. Do not allow them to have any influence in your lives or society.

    For me it was 9-11. You really fucked up there. You’re superiority complex is so high that you do the stupidest stuff. It’s almost like Wiley Coyote where he realizes he’s falling off the cliff after being SURE he’s outsmarted the roadrunner. It’s become a bad joke and there’s lots and lots and lots of us that are just not up to hearing your obfuscation any more. The only question is how to get rid of you and away from us.

  157. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    I presume no malfeasance from the Catholic King and Queen. I am aware of the jewish role in the Muslim conquest, the high numbers of conversos around Isabella and particularly in Aragon, and the existence of separate jewish acts (some political, some insane) which caused their expulsion.

    I also know that Ignacio de Loyola, of Basque origin in Guipúzcoa, was a saint and the Order the basis of many good and great works and a bulwark of Christendom, even today. But human it is and will remain.

    I do object to the lingering impression left by such an article, which is that the Society of Jesus was “tainted” since inception by those marvelously crafty Jews. Let the whole fruits of the Order speak for themselves! The saints, the thinkers, the schools and universities the Counter Reformatiom.Or better yet, judge the Jesuits by their enemies. Here’s a quote about their 18th Century dissolution:

    “The operation wants for nothing; we have killed the son, and have nothing left but to do the same to the mother, our Holy Roman Church.” (Letter from Manuel de Roda to the Duc de Choiseul).

    Their problem today is indeed of human resources, but not the Jews in their ranks.

  158. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    “JUSTINIAN’S CODE FORBADE Jews from holding civil office and teaching positions.
    Compiling various laws regarding the Jews that were established before him into a legal codification, Justinian forbade Jews:
    + To engage in proselytism; + To marry Orthodox Christian women; + To possess Orthodox Christian servants; + To hold office or honors in the Roman state; + To build new synagogues; + To read the Old Testament in Hebrew but rather in Greek which did not cut out the prophecies that pointed to Jesus Christ; + To use Judaic interpretations of the Old Testament; + To bear witness in court against an Orthodox Christian; + To hold teaching positions in Roman schools or as private tutors. The culmination of Justinian’s “Codex” was the denial of Roman citizenship to the Jews and relegating them to the rank of second class citizens.”

    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=715

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @Seraphim
  159. gT says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Its only been very recently that Saudi Arabia has run out of bucks. All along Saudi Arabia has been spreading its Wahhabi beliefs across the planet via its financing of mosques, madrassas and imams. And Saudi Arabia has been cozy with Israel for decades.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  160. Bill says:
    @denise

    Yeah, well, the One True Church is the institution most worth corrupting, isn’t it?

  161. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    Thanks. That’s a great start but it didn’t seem to take maybe we should just keep them away altogether.

  162. @gT

    No doubt a lot of the Saudi expenditure on madrassas etc is still having harmful effects on a large scale. But I am intrigued by your comment that the Saudis have been cozy with Israel for decades. Could you enlarge on the evidence and consequences of that?

    • Replies: @gT
  163. Bill says:
    @ANONYMOUS

    Catholic priests had children all the time.

  164. Gaw-aw-aw-lee, Sergeant. This “The Catholic priesthood is riddled with Jews!” shtick is solid gold!!

    I predict this topic will break the “IQ is everything” record for comments!

  165. Seraphim says:
    @Anonymous

    We must add the most significant and relevant conclusion from the link provided (which would attract the ire of the hapless ‘whites’):

    “Neo-paganism and idyllic myths that salivate over Indo-European “gods” promoted by White-Identity Websites will only provide the Jew with yet another stepping stone to greater hegemony over the political affairs of European society.
    Wagner (a profound master) and his operas indeed are milestones in the evolution of classical music.
    But to elevate Wagner’s Nordic Wodens and Fricas to realms of some new European “reformation” is not only laughable but historically shallow.
    “Europe Is The Church and The Church Is Europe!” said the great 20th Century historian, Hilaire Belloc.
    It is via the historical Church, and ONLY the historical Church, that the Jewish siege of Europe can be opposed, dismantled, and ultimately destroyed.”

  166. Sam J. says:

    “…It is via the historical Church, and ONLY the historical Church, that the Jewish siege of Europe can be opposed, dismantled, and ultimately destroyed.”…”

    I get weary of being so repetitive but someone has to point out all ridiculous claims of the Hasbara that Whites need to do this or that or the other to “change” themselves before the Jew problem can be dealt with. Well no we don’t have to do any of that. We just get rid of the Jews. All the rest can or cannot follow. All the rest has nothing to do with getting rid of our foremost problem the Jew. Even if we lose all our faith, even if we worship rocks and berry trees, even if every White person in the country takes up Disco dancing while wearing Square dancing skirts and checkered shirts, then getting rid of the Jews will still be vast improvement.

    What I wonder is why you people are so retarded. You keep repeating the same stupid, :you must do this you must do lines”. Can’t you think up something better?

    I’ll tell what you Jews need to do you need to assassinate your leaders. Look at the really serious bind they’ve put you in. All this Russia, Russia, Russia has undermined the faith in your precious big bleating horn blowing media that’s supposed to keep the spell on people. The constant and blatant attacks on Whites has gotten so out of hand that Whites are really beginning to hate you even worse. The 9-11 fiasco was the dumbest thing ever done by anyone in the Whole Entire History of Planet Earth. What the fuck were they thinking? What a bunch of fuck wits. THEY are your leaders. The people who did this stupid shit. I’m afraid that we won’t be needing all your great advice on needing to learn Hebrew or be perfect people or any of that other stuff we’re supposed to do because we’re not going to need you. You’re leadership did this 100%. They’re always telling you, “they’ve got it”, “Oh yeah” but any fool can see they’ve blown the whole thing. If you don’t want to live in the damn dirt as a refugee in Israel then the only way is to defect. Tell all. Come clean and maybe, just maybe, we won’t deport you to that Godforsaken place with the Arabs and Palestinians dancing in Ecstasy over the idea that they can make you and your children their slaves, torture you to death and “no one will care”. No one will miss you.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  167. Seraphim says:

    We can’t wait for YOU fierce Viking wankers making good of your bleating braggadocio. Don’t forget to take your ‘Mjölnir’ (Old Norse: Mjǫllnir) and paint your ‘The Helm of Awe’ tattoos.

  168. Alden says:
    @attilathehen

    Hi there Betty who was banned from
    Occidental Observer.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  169. gT says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The answer to your question is P.A.L.E.S.T.I.N.E. If a billion or thereabouts Sunni Muslims can’t deal with about 6 million Jews in Palestine, then there are only 2 possible conclusions.

    a) all Sunni Muslims are completely and absolutely useless

    b) the Sunni Muslim nation with the most clout by virtue of its having the most bucks isn’t really against Israel

    I’ll give the Sunni Muslims the benefit of the doubt and say that the answer is definitely b). Saudi Arabia is not in the least bit concerned about Palestinian deaths or suffering at the hands of the colonizing Jews. If Saudi Arabia was concerned, they would have pumped lots of their money into ensuring that Syria, Egypt and Jordan all had nuclear weapons to use at an allotted time against Israel, the consequent destruction of the Earth thereafter be damned. Since Saudi Arabia never done this, it therefor stands to reason that Saudi Arabia has been cozy with Israel for a long time.

  170. lavoisier says: • Website
    @AaronB

    Very interesting analysis.

    I completely agree with you. Without a moral foundation, however specious, any claims made by a collective are seen as questionable.

    European Civilization and its people have to lay claim to the moral right to preserve their civilization–and the right to challenge those who would undermine that claim.

    Unfortunately, the vanguard undermining the moral legitimacy of that claim have invariably been Jews.

    This Jewish hostility to European cultures and peoples is what leads to anti-semitism.

    And there is nothing irrational about it.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Sam J.
  171. AaronB says:
    @lavoisier

    European Civilization and its people have to lay claim to the moral right to preserve their civilization–and the right to challenge those who would undermine that claim.

    Agreed. But in order to do so European Civilization must once again base itself on a moral vision, as it did in the past.

    Science, technology, and capitalism, materialism and Darwinism, made Europeans lose thouch with their moral vision, and feel guilty, weak, and unsure if their civilization is worth defending.

    Unfortunately, the vanguard undermining the moral legitimacy of that claim have invariably been Jews.

    Today, this is true. But before Jews, Europeans themselves were the fiercest critics of the direction their civilization was taking in modern times.

    We see this in the literature, philosophy, and intellectual life of Europe starting towards the middle of the 18th century.

    European critics were attempting to reform, Jewish critics are attempting to destroy and replace.

    This Jewish hostility to European cultures and peoples is what leads to anti-semitism.

    Largely, this is correct.

    Although we shouldn’t forget that even if Jews were saints, some people would hate them just for being different. That’s just human nature.

    But largely, anti-semitism is reactive, I agree with you.

    • Agree: lavoisier
    • Replies: @Sam J.
  172. Seraphim says:

    @Europeans themselves were the fiercest critics of the direction their civilization was taking in modern times.

    Even a cursory acquaintance with European history would reveal that behind the demolition of European Christian culture were the same Christ-hating Jews. The Judaization of the ‘Christian World’ is a far older phenomenon than the ‘emancipation of the Jews’ in modern times and their grabbing of all levers of society. Actually it made it possible.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  173. AaronB says:
    @Seraphim

    I agree with this. I think modernity was the judaizing of European culture, making it more materialistic and egoistic. Modernity is the triumph of judaism.

    As long as Europe was Christian it was not “great”, but strong, vital, healthy, happy, and self confident.

    It’s interesting that an “other-worldly” civilization always leads to contentment and happiness, and materialism always leads to anxiety, restlness, and unhappiness.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  174. @Alden

    Alden, if you are willing to OSCULUM INFAME black/Asian priests-popes, you are the problem.

    • Replies: @Alden
  175. Sam J. says:
    @lavoisier

    “…Without a moral foundation, however specious, any claims made by a collective are seen as questionable…”

    I completely and utterly reject this idea and can only assume it’s another roadblock thrown up to stall getting rid of the Jews. The main impediment to Whites living half-assed decent lives is the Jews. They are the primary, not the only, but the primary propaganda, funding and encouragement for anti-White media and attacks on Whites. Sure they aren’t the only cause but without them the anti-White movement would likely collapse. Some may argue with this but I say let’s get rid of the Jews first, then we’ll see. We’ll see if they are the mass of the problem. Of they aren’t then we will go on from there but let’s get rid of the Jews first. For four thousand years these people have tormented us it’s time to let them be free in their own communities and without us. If they have problems with Whites then I’m their friend. I don’t want them to have any interaction with Whites. I want them away from us. Jews complain constantly about Whites not doing this or that or the other. I’m here to tell you there are no walls built to hold you in. No one will chain you down to keep you in the country. You’re free to leave anytime you want.

    We know letting the Jews run our societies is a disaster. Over and over we’ve seen this. We also know for a fact several communities that have rejected the Jews have shown a remarkable improvement in the financial and even moral outlook of the community immediately after they rejected them running their society or forbid them to do so.

    Any proposition that Whites have to do anything, moral, financial, etc., etc, before they get rid of the Jews is just another roadblock thrown up to stall the freeing of Whites from the oppression of this tribe of psychopaths, or at least “tribe that has the same function as a tribe of psychopaths”. Any and all of the so-called improvements Whites need can be worked on AFTER the Jew is gone. Most likely any improvement needed will be much easier without the Jews destructive force present.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  176. Sam J. says:
    @AaronB

    “… European Civilization and its people have to lay claim to the moral right to preserve their civilization–and the right to challenge those who would undermine that claim.

    Agreed. But in order to do so European Civilization must once again base itself on a moral vision, as it did in the past….”

    Jesus H. Christ it never ends. These comments are so silly as to leave me aghast. As if Whites have to have to walk on water or heal the sick or raise up the dead…in order to say their homes are theirs. Do you know how silly you sound? Let’s just take “your” silly assed ideas and reduce them to the base. The essence. Let’s say a guy owns a wheel barrow. Now some else comes and just takes his wheel barrow starts using it. The guy, (the White guy), objects to his wheel barrow being taken and a third party, (a Jew of course), starts spouting off about,”Well you are not righteous in the ways of the Lord”, “You have not said the great Holies and morally cleansed yourself”, “You have not made the moral case for the wheel barrow”, “You have not learned Greek and Hebrew to speak properly for the wheel barrow”. IT’S HIS WHEEL BARROW. All your nonsensical shrieking is just massive smoke and mirrors to mask the problem which is that the Western areas built up by Whites are being taken away from them and the primary impetus to this are Jews. We don’t have to make a moral case for our homes, our society, our civilization. It just IS ours. No other substance is needed. The real solution to this problem, is to get rid of the Jews. Even if it’s not the total solution it’s the only logical place to start. We don’t need to morally provide any damn thing to the Jews. We owe the Jews nothing. There is no consideration we should give the Jews to anything, anywhere, anyhow. It’s our wheel barrow.

  177. Seraphim says:
    @AaronB

    @As long as Europe was Christian it was not “great”

    But certainly was ‘merrier’ (like in “Merry England”*) than the grabbing, hard-working, money worshiping, drab and joyless society which followed the ‘Dissolution of the monasteries’ by the ‘pork-eating Judaism’ that was the Reformation (i.e. the theft of the Church assets – many dating from Celtic times – initiated by the dissolute King Henry and their distribution to his minions – the new ‘nobility’ of GB). And not only was it more merry, the merry-making was actually encouraged by the Church, particularly in the later medieval period**. The Church payed for much of it.

    *The idea of Merry England became associated with the Anglo-Catholics and Catholicism.

    **”The festival calendar provided some fifty holy days for seasonal and communal coming-together and merry-making! Complaints against the rise in levels of drunkenness and crime on holidays, of flirting in church or on pilgrimage, of grievous bodily harm from the “abominable enough…foot-ball-game” all testify (however indirectly) to a vital, if unofficial medieval existence. Langland might castigate, but also provided a vivid picture of, those who “drink all day in diverse taverns, and gossip and joke there”, of the field-workers who “sat down to drink their ale and sing songs – thinking to plough his field with a Hey-nonny-nonny”. The wandering scholar, or goliard, who posed the mock questions of whether it was better to eat meat or fish, to court Agnes or Rose, belonged to a similar fraternity.
    More legitimised recreation came in the form of archery, ice-skating, wrestling, hunting and hawking, while there was also the medieval angler, who “atte the leest hath his holsom walke and mery at his ease”. Above the town or village itself stood a semi-approved of layer of nomadic entertainers – minstrels, jugglers, mummers, morris-dancers, actors and jig-makers, all adding to first stirrings of mass entertainment” (Wikipedia).

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Mulegino1
  178. Seraphim says:
    @Sam J.

    @Do you know how silly you sound?

    But do YOU know how silly YOU sound? Not to say anything about the ridicule.
    How do you know that the ‘wheel barrow was not stolen in the first place (“pirated” by your adventurous Vikings sailing from the Nordic fogs or by the “Mystery and Company of Merchant Adventurers for the Discovery of Regions, Dominions, Islands, and Places unknown” founded in 1551 by Richard Chancellor, Sebastian Cabot and Sir Hugh Willoughby, who decided to look for the Northeast Passage to China)?
    Like the ‘steam engine’ stolen from the French Denis Papin and the German Gottfried Leibniz – its real inventors.
    Now, the ‘Industrial Revolution’ (the ‘wheelbarrow’) owes its ‘success’ to the Rothschilds (and the Montefiores and the Sassoons and the Cassels) sinking their ill earned money (much of it from looting India or China or from opium trade) into it (they built the railways system in Europe and America – à tout seigneur tout honneur -). Get rid of the Jewish money and you are ‘nuthin’.
    The Rothschilds bankroll the ‘white identity, Wolfangel, Sonnenrad’ scam (as they bankrolled and bankroll all anti-Christian activities).

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @utu
  179. @Sam J.

    Sam, while I agree perfectly with your points, you can save yourself a lot of grief by understanding that people like us are “goyim.”

    Goyim do not own wheelbarrows. The wheelbarrows belong to the “Chosen” as does everything else.

    The goyim use wheelbarrows only when they’re directed to by their betters.

    Jesus H. Christ it never ends.

    You got that right.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  180. AaronB says:
    @Seraphim

    100% agreed.

    The dissolution of the monasteries was the beginning of the end.

  181. AaronB says:
    @Sam J.

    Sam,

    My thesis is that whites gave themselves a self inflicted wound by making their culture about materialism, immoral Darwinism, science, etc.

    I believe that man needs to see himself as grounded in morality. It’s one of his most basic and deepest needs.

    I think that if you get rid of every last jew, Europeans would still feel guilty and defenseless against Muslims, Chinese, etc, and would still want to destroy their own civilization even if they weren’t interacting with antone else.

    Jews definitely make it worse, but my thesis isn’t that whites need to do snything before they can separate from jews, but rather, they won’t have the self belief to do so until they feel that their civilization is moral i.e get rid of Darwinism, materialism, etc.

    It’s a diagnosis, not what should be the case. I just don’t see whites being self confident enough to act against jews until they correct what made them so vulnerable to jews in the first place.

    • Replies: @Alden
  182. AaronB says:
    @Sam J.

    In other words, Sam, Europeans don’t need a “moral right” to separate themselves from Jews who are attacking their civilization, you are correct.

    But they need the moral self confidence that their civilization is worth defending.

    And that they can only give themselves.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  183. Sam J. says:
    @Seraphim

    “…How do you know that the ‘wheel barrow was not stolen in the first place…”

    You merely strengthen my argument. Complaining about stolen land while all the time the Jews are enjoying the fruit of it. If they don’t like it or wish to complain about it they should leave. Always the Jews with their conditions on everyone else while, conveniently, forgetting they are on the same land. Always jumping to a different subject when the subject is the Jews and their deprivations. I never hear any angst about the Jews deprivations form the Jews so don’t be surprised if I don’t recoil in horror when you mention a few of Whites. It’s not like we don’t have the entire Jewish media, most all of the media, reminding us daily.

    “…The rea(“pirated” by your adventurous Vikings”…”

    I’m not a pirate or a Viking and the Vikings have been dead a long time. The Jews blew up the WTC in 2001. Fairly recent and what the heel do the Vikings have to do with Jewish infiltration of White institutions anyways. That’s what the article was about. Notice the complete abandonment of the whole subject to…Vikings???? Typical Jew dust, smoke and mirrors.

    “…Get rid of the Jewish money and you are ‘nuthin’…”

    Not so as it was our money in the first place. We can always make more if we cut out the Jews cut. So now the Jews are claiming credit for the Industrial Revolution? I happen to know a little about the Industrial Revolution and Jews are not high on the list of people who made it happen. An interesting show is Industrial Revelations by the BBC that’s on YouTube. Interesting show.

  184. Sam J. says:
    @AaronB

    “…In other words, Sam, Europeans don’t need a “moral right” to separate themselves from Jews who are attacking their civilization, you are correct…”

    OK I get that but I also see it as a waste of time when we can readily see the toxic influence of the Jews and instead of beating around the bush and making ourselves all Manly and perfect we concentrate on getting rid of the Jews first.

    The question we should concern ourselves with as a priority is how do we get rid of the Jews. All else we can work on later. We have all the time in the world to work on all these other problems but we’re running out of time to handle the Jew problem. I suggest that a lot of these morale problems are directly related to the Jews running our countries and being in them. If I’m wrong when we get rid of the Jews…well then I’ll personally say OOOPS I was wrong but we would still be rid of the Jews and that’s a great accomplishment in itself.

  185. utu says:
    @Seraphim

    The Rothschilds bankroll the ‘white identity, Wolfangel, Sonnenrad’ scam (as they bankrolled and bankroll all anti-Christian activities).

    Would you care to elaborate on this? The ‘white identity’ once the Christianity is destroyed is the only focal point around which the Europeans could rally. One can imagine a new religion taking hold among Europeans or revival of Christianity sometimes in the future but once the white race is miscegenated there will be Europeans left to speak of. If Christianity is your highest priority and race is irrelevant you can go somewhere to Africa and live among Christian natives there. There are more true Christians in Africa than in Europe. You may call it the Benedict option in Africa.

    • Replies: @Anon
  186. Sam J. says:
    @jacques sheete

    Oh I understand perfectly. I notice when Andrew Joyce writes an article, and they’re always very good, the Hasbara come up thick so I try to show their derailment of the subject. I try to use simple basic ideas to show that the basis of what they’re saying is just nonsense, which it is. It’s shameful the super brainaic Jews can’t do better because I’m not that smart at all. They must have the imbecile squad running the Hasbara lately. Their arguments are a mile wide and an inch deep.

    I don’t know if AaronB is a Hasbara or not but his arguments don’t sound all that good to me. Chiefly because the sole thing holding us back from driving the Jews into the sea is we’re a decent people. As the Jews drive all of this goodness out of us then the likelihood of us driving them into the sea increases greatly. We don’t need God or morals to get rid of the Jews. We just need to realize that every where they go they rip people off and it sucks to live with them. I suspect the tipping point is much closer than they would like to believe. Everyone knows our country is fucked. They know the news is fucked. They just don’t know exactly who is responsible but they’re getting an idea. Since they own the news they have a strong “authority” control nexus, you know Milgram experiment and all that, so my suggestion is to call out the Jews every damn where you go. Talk about how depraved they are in the supermarket line. Talk about 9-11 and building 7. Who gives a damn what people think. They will eventually, when they hear enough and do even the slightest research, see that you were right and that the only thing to do is GET RID OF THE JEWS.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  187. @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    While the British Empire rose, Jewish communities were there.
    While the United States rose, Jewish communities were there.

    They were there in rather small numbers. The big change came with immigration from Tsarist Russia, followed by a smaller number of escapees from Nazi Germany.

    Readers of this blog know that Jews (or at least the Ashkenazim) have on average higher IQ than gentiles; and so while they form perhaps 2.5% of the American population, they constitute maybe 25% of the US cognitive elite. Therefore, as well as making glorious contributions to science, technology, and business, Jews tend to be found among the leaders of most intellectual or political movements. It is easy for an anti-semite to be critical of the Jewish leaders of any movement he dislikes. The anti-communist might single out Marx or Trotsky; the anti-capitalist might choose Milton Friedman or Alan Greenspan.

    Just as good citizenship requires Gentiles to stop and think “when I am criticizing Greenspan, am I just being anti-semitic?”, it also requires Jews who are active in politics or the media to ask themselves “does this policy that I am advocating happen to coincide with what I believe to be my own ethnic interests?”

  188. AaronB says:

    The question we should concern ourselves with as a priority is how do we get rid of the Jews.

    I think I understand your position. You think self-defense is enough, that if someone is attacking you you’ll have a natural instinct to defend yourself. All you have to do is identify your attacker. Once you’ve done that, you’re good.

    What I am saying is that that isn’t really the case. If you feel worthless, you may meekly submit to attack and even feel you deserve it.

    I am saying that self defense isn’t a natural instinct that everyone has, but actually depends on feelings of self worth.

    I think the psychology of self esteem bears this out. Depressed people actually don’t defend themselves.

    That’s why whites can’t just rely on a natural instinct for self defense. They have first to feel that they are not worthless.

    And right now, whites feel they are worthless. Now you think Jews made whites feel worthless. Without Jews, whites wouldn’t feel worthless.

    Now, this is historically wrong. Whites began to feel their civilization was worthless as it started to become about materialism, Darwinism, science, capitalism, etc. All these things are either amoral or immoral.

    And as I said before, man has a deep need to feel that he is moral. Whites began to see that they could no longer call their civilization moral. At best, it was amoral.

    At that point, Jews came onto the scene. They saw that whites didn’t like what their civilization had become, and they tried to take advantage of this.

    They agreed with those white critics who said their civilization had become immoral – but they used this to try and make whites feel guilty and take advantage of them, not in order to make white civilization moral again.

    That’s when criticism of modern European culture became about destruction and not reform.

    Now, for whites to feel worthy again, they have to reform their civilization and make it moral again.

    This way they will stop in their tracks those who say white civilization needs to be destroyed.

    But if white civilization continues to be mainly about materialism, Darwinism, and all the rest, then whites won’t feel it’s worth defending.

    That’s my thesis. Make sense?

  189. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    @  among Europeans or revival of Christianity sometimes in the future but once the white race is miscegenated there will be Europeans left to speak of. If Christianity is your highest priority and race is irrelevant you can go somewhere to Africa and live among Christian natives there. 

    Seraphim is right in one central thing, the Belloc quote. “Europe is the faith, the faith is Europe”. 

    The “white race” has never existed as a conscious polity. The standard definition of nation is a group of people who see themselves as forming part of a group, and sharing some characteristics like race, language, religion, territory, history, institutions.  But white skin as such has not built a nation up till today, look at lily-white Clinton and Merkel. It is somehow insufficient. Maybe when there’s only 700 hundred of us left!

    Race is relevant, because we somehow naturally tend to bond with people who look like us. And that is true even within races, as when women befriend other women with a very similar esthetic style, and you see a photo of 4 unrelated women with the same hair color, makeup and nose job.

    But I would not want to live in a wholly non-Christian culture. Paganism, even white paganism can be extremely dark. Just look around us! Imagine a white transhuman world of supermen and serfs. Anyway, it is a false choice.

    What can we do?
    1) Recognize the Christian roots of Western world, understand the institutions/ideas which are central (dignity of person, rule of law, equality under law, natural law,  int’l law, forms of government, common good, fundamental goods, etc), and fight for those. Organize and protect pockets of sanity. Proclaim what is worth conserving. That should give Christian culture and civilized whites some breathing space. Time and reason to have children (the real reason of the debacle is demographical, not miscegenation).

    2) Re-evangelize. Christianity has not been uniformally triumphant in Europe (or anywhere else) ever since Theodosius. The abyss has been seen and breached before.

    For point 1 (what is worth conserving, what to rally around), I like Roger Scruton. Here’s an essay, elegant but not wordy:

    http://www.europeanconservative.com/uploads/1/7/7/4/17743925/eurocon_10_2014_summer.pdf

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    , @Sam J.
  190. Mulegino1 says:
    @Seraphim

    When Christendom was in its full glory, the year WAS the liturgical year: Advent, Christ Mass, Lent, Easter Tide, saints’ days, etc.

    In the USA our year is now one long lousy kosher spectacle: The imbecilic Stupor Bowl- I would call it national “slackjaw day”- the Oscars, Grammies, Emmies and other worthless and stultifying entertainment rubbish, “Spring Break”, national barbecue day (a.k.a. Memorial Day), 2nd national barbecue day (a.k.a. Independence Day), last national barbecue day (Labor Day), Glutton’s day (a.k.a. Thanksgiving), national consumer orgy day (a.k.a. “Black Friday”), the generic “Holidays”, etc.

    The Jews corrupt and ruin everything. They rip the soul out of traditional culture and replace it with filth and degradation. It was Jews like Irving Berlin with his “White Christmas” who began the commercialization and secularization of the birth of Jesus Christ. No society or culture which accepts and tenders full rights to Jews in any appreciable number can expect to survive for long.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Sam J.
  191. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1

    Not that I want to push you further, but consider the whole Pagan Calendar: add to Black Friday, the gay Halloween, the July Pride Month, and the real orgies, the music festivals like Burning Man.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  192. geokat62 says:
    @AaronB

    Whites began to feel their civilization was worthless as it started to become about materialism, Darwinism, science, capitalism, etc. All these things are either amoral or immoral.

    FIFY:

    Whites began to feel their civilization was worthless as it started to become about Cultural Marxism. This is either amoral or immoral.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  193. Mulegino1 says:
    @Anon

    You’re right. How could I have forgotten about national “death, decay and horror day” or “National Sodomy month”! What a cause for celebration those days are! But “Burning Man” is kind of like Bohemian Grove for those who are not members of the “elites” ( notice the quotation marks). A bunch of idiots waste time,energy and money to go out to the desert to watch a mannequin burn! In the meantime, I can get a 30 pack of Tecate for less than 20 bucks or a bottle of Johnnie Walker Black for less than 30$ and drink them in the peace and tranquility of home.

  194. @AaronB

    AaronB wrote; “Now, for whites to feel worthy again, they have to reform their civilization and make it moral again.”

    Hi AaronB,

    Ever read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s essay, “Repentance and Self Limitation of Nations.”

    Substance is uncannily similar to the point you made (above) and it is included in Solzhenitsyn’s “Under the rubble,” a collection of essays.

    Thanks, AaronB.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Sam J.
  195. AaronB says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    I haven’t, but I greatly admire the man. Thanks for the tip, I will have a look at it.

  196. AaronB says:
    @geokat62

    Yes, this is definitely a big part of it, but I don’t think we can say it’s all of it.

    I am not really saying anything the Romantics haven’t said before me.

  197. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    @What we can do?

    Speaking about re-evangelization of Europe, we should first understand what Christianity is NOT.
    The Christ did not come, suffer death, raised from the dead, just to improve the living conditions of the Jews, or Romans, or the ‘white race’, nor to bring any new ‘moral code’, nor to usher in an ever vanishing future the ‘Kingdom of eternal abundance and leisure. These were the three temptations of the Devil that He rejected. He came precisely to proclaim the ‘euanghelion’, the Good News that the Kingdom of God, the Spirit is ‘at hand’, is ‘among you’, is ‘in you’. He sent the Apostles to communicate this Good News to all creature and telling them what to do to obtain the Spirit: Baptism. It is what the Christ said all along:

    “THERE was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. 9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? 10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? 11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God” (John 3: 1-21).

    So, the real solution is the re-Baptism of Europe. It would mean repentance, ‘change of mind’, metanoia. It means the return to Orthodoxy, the ONLY Church that kept unaltered the message of the Christ and the means to achieve it.
    We must also realize that the ‘white struggle’ is directed at making impossible this possibility. It is not a hazard that the Ukrainian ‘nazis’ have been ascribed the “historical mission to lead the global White Race in its final crusade for its survival. A crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen, and to resist the country’s surrender to armed invaders from the East [the Orthodox Russia]“, along with the “new European alliance – the Baltic-Black Sea Union” (where the neo-paganism is in full force). Their declared goal is “unleashing an economic, propaganda, and guerrilla war against Russian Crimea” (and against Russia itself). Their ‘anti-semitism’ is a farce.
    It is not by chance that the ‘neo-paganism’ found such a fertile soil in the countries historically most infested by Jews.

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    , @Sam J.
    , @Alden
  198. Alden says:
    @Anon

    So July is gay pride month? Didn’t know that. I assume they picked July so the gay men can run around naked and shoving their stuff in everbody’s Faces.

    I re named Christmas capitalist consumption season a long time ago. I better not get started on White men worshipping in the church of black athletes

  199. Alden says:
    @Anon

    The worship and adoration of blacks season began January 2, the day school begins after Christmas break.

    Like Lent, it’s about 6 weeks, January 1 to about the middle of March. I am absolutely convinced the reason the liberals picked February as black history month is because Saint MLK was born in January.

    Combine Saint MLK month with black worship month and a couple weeks into March and it’s 6 weeks of it.

    It’s fortunate that saint Michael, patron saint of adulterous wife beaters was born in January. More than half the country is covered in snow. Most of the rest is sleet and cold rain. So their Saint Michael celebrations can’t get out of hand as would happen in better weather.

    I’ve noticed that as blacks behaved badly at MLK celebrations cities quietly dropped them.

    But the public schools treat it like medieval Catholics treated Easter. Plus the endless MLK projects the parents have to help with. And of course all the TV channels will feature black movies for the next 2 months.

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    , @David In TN
  200. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    @ But the public schools treat it like medieval Catholics treated Easter. Plus the endless MLK projects the parents have to help with.

    Uuff! Don’t remind me. It’s not as bad where I live, but bad it is. What’s the other? Sacajawea?!

    The gay pride July thingy, coming soon near you, check out Nordstrom, for example.

  201. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    @ It would mean repentance, ‘change of mind’, metanoia. It means the return to Orthodoxy.

    Laughing here, I’m sure you’ve surmised I’m Catholic, unmovably. Shall we amicably settle for a Catholic rebirth in olde Catholic Europe and an Orthodox rebirth in Orthodox lands? Not the time for squabbling, let’s take a page from:

    http://benoit-et-moi.fr/2017/benot-xvi/lhommage-dhilarion-a-benoit-xvi.html

    As those Jesuits (should I say rather: Those Jesuits!!) say,
    In Christ.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  202. Sam J. says:
    @AaronB

    “…I am saying that self defense isn’t a natural instinct that everyone has, but actually depends on feelings of self worth.

    I think the psychology of self esteem bears this out. Depressed people actually don’t defend themselves…”

    Nice try but what I’m saying is your “thesis” is full of gobbledygook. Being attacked is an objective event and has absolutely nothing to do with the self worth of any individual. Maybe you’d like to explain how my self worth made building 7, not hit by a plane, fall the same speed as a rock dropped in air for roughly 108 feet. Let’s make this as simple as possible. There are only two functions to something falling. The gravity field, same for rocks, buildings, pebbles, everything and the resistance to the object falling. In this case air. This means if the building fell the same speed as the rock, and it did, then the building was only supported by air. Well we know the building wasn’t hovering in the air. It was demoed in some way. We all know who controls the news in the country and the “magnificent, brilliant Jews” can see the exact same things I can. Ergo they’re responsible. Everyone knows they are it’s not a big secret. There’s thousands of other things, the mass of Black Male-White Women pairings on TV, constant attacks on White Men on TV, a complete total push to flood the country with immigrants. There’s many, many more involving financial fraud. You say these are all due to my ego. I’m depressed so Mexicans came pouring in. Don’t insult us anymore with this nonsense.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  203. Sam J. says:
    @Anon

    “…once the white race is miscegenated there will be Europeans left to speak of. ..”

    YES exactly!

    “…What can we do?
    1) Recognize the Christian roots of Western world…
    2) Re-evangelize…”

    No what we need to do is get rid of the Jews. All these other problems can be solved later. We don’t need to be Godly, perfect, moral, speak Greek or any these other silly nonsense detours to be a free people again. We need to get rid of the Jews. This has been done before several times with great results. Many times. Almost miraculous in some cases. Get rid of Jews and country immediately becomes a better place.

  204. Sam J. says:
    @Mulegino1

    “…The Jews corrupt and ruin everything. …No society or culture which accepts and tenders full rights to Jews in any appreciable number can expect to survive for long…”

    exactly I don’t want perfect people in a perfect country full of Godly perfect people I want the best we can have ourselves. To do so means getting rid of the Jews. We waste way too much time trying to do this or that. We need to concentrate on ideas to get rid of the Jews. When we are asked about any problem in the country our first reply to anyone should be that the only important step we can take guaranteed to be the most productive towards having a good life is get rid of the Jews. Explain building 7 to every single person you can find and make sure they know the Jews did this and have such control over our government that we couldn’t stop them. Explain the corruption of their influence. Sure they’ll look at you a little strange but if they look, even the slightest, at building 7 they will see for themselves that you’re right. I don’t care how the Jews are removed. Peacefully if we can get it. I don’t care as long as they go.

  205. Sam J. says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Aleksander Solzhenitsyn also said that the Jews killed 60 million Russians. Let’s get rid of the Jews before they try to do this to us.

  206. Sam J. says:
    @Seraphim

    Oh goody we’re quoting scripture.

    JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, 8:44 “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. – then answered the Jews — ” (which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)

    LISTEN TO JESUS. The Jews are murders that worship Satan is what he said. Save yourselves. Get rid of the Jews. We should raise money and have huge public meetings with the best minds we can find to strategize how to get rid of the Jews before they kill us all.

  207. Sam J. says:

    To all the people that read this that are not paid by the Jews or agents of the Jews have you noticed a pattern. It’s always some ring us Whites should jump through to make things better. It’s always some snip about Vikings or slavery or my depression or some other such nonsense. You might ask yourself, as I have, …well what are the Jews going to do? Shouldn’t they do some Godly stuff??? Well that won’t help us because their religion is no one but them is human, everything we own belongs to them and we should all be their slaves. So Godly Jews is out, that won’t help a bit seeing as how they worship Satan. Shouldn’t Jews reject the evil Jews? Expose them. Do you see them doing this in large numbers? No you don’t and with that sure knowledge the only reasonable response is to get rid of the Jews. All thoughts should be focused on this one event, getting rid of the Jews, and how we can pull it off.

  208. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    I will be the first to exceedingly rejoice for a ‘Catholic rebirth’ in ‘olde’ Catholic Europe. The ‘olde’ Catholic Europe was Orthodox until it slided into “Papism”. Until it renounced, for flimsy reasons (“the child could catch a cold”) to baptize children by immersion, until it forced the Jewish matzos on communicants of the Holy Mystery of Eucharist instead of the bread and wine enjoined by the Christ, until it forced the Filioque clause in the Creed for purely political reasons. Let Catholics get rid of these errors and the path to reconciliation would grow larger. Take the old example of Father Vladimir Guettée (a former Jesuit), of J.J. Overbeck, who converted to Orthodoxy (Russian) in the 19th Century, convinced that the Orthodox Church was the true Church.

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  209. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Just in case there was a misunderstanding, my laughter was not at what you said. Contrary to most here, I respect conviction about the necessity of faith.

  210. AaronB says:
    @Sam J.

    If a disease attacks the immune system, you have to build up the immune system before it can fight back.

    You’re saying – forget about building up the immune system, just get rid of the disease.

    Sure, but how do you do that if your body doesn’t have what it takes?

    It’s not a moral question, it’s a factual question.

    A depressed person won’t defend himself from his artacker. He has to un-depress himself before he’ll fight back.

    I can’t say it any simpler than that.

    If you disagree, that’s fine. Many here think European civilization doesn’t need reform. They think whites were perfectly self confident and happy with themselves before jews came along and destroyed all that.

    If that’s your opinion, you’re certainly entitled to it. But we’ll have to agree to disagree.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  211. Sam J. says:
    @AaronB

    “…If a disease attacks the immune system, you have to build up the immune system before it can fight back…”

    Uh…excuse me but have you ever heard of mask? Washing your hands. Not pooping in the water? Not drinking poopy water? Mosquito nets? These are common methods to avoid disease all together.

    Since the Jews are a constant low level infection why don’t we “first” try some know 100% guaranteed methods to avoid infection like…avoiding the disease all together. In our case getting rid of the Jews.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  212. @Alden

    The NFL Network would run “A Football Life” episodes with only black subjects during the month of February.

  213. Seraphim says:
    @Sam J.

    But the Church was the mosquito net. When it was torn apart the mosquitoes invaded. The Christian faith is the real repellent. They can’t stand the Cross and flee in the face of it.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @Alden
  214. Sam J. says:
    @Seraphim

    “…They can’t stand the Cross and flee in the face of it…”

    This just in, Seraphim believes Jews are Vampires and can be repelled with crosses.

    My suggestion is much simpler, longer lasting and You don’t have to lug around those heavy crosses forever. Just get rid of the Jews. Allow them no interaction with our society. My suggestion also works if they are not Vampires but merely a tribe of psychopaths.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  215. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Sam J.

    Aaron B is one of the most thoughtful commentators I have read here, and this is saying a lot.

    It is not all about the Jews, and much more nuance is needed in your arguments.

    We need to challenge their disproportionate control of white European civilizations and their destructive malice towards the people who created those civilizations, but there is something fundamentally wrong with us to have allowed our societies to be hijacked by the interests of a small tribal group of people.

    It is not now, nor has it ever been, all about the Jews.

    No society, unless it was corrupt at some very deep level, could so willingly acquiesce to its own dismemberment and destruction.

    Aaron B is seeking answers to these complicated issues and I respect his postings.

    Your solution–drive the Jews into the sea– is not only unworkable, it is immoral.

    • Agree: polskijoe
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    , @Sam J.
  216. Svigor says:

    Like Jewish groups, Asian groups have a very high IQ profile … East Asians being even higher than Jews on average

    Wrong, and wrong. East Asian mean is around 105, and you have to cherry-pick to put their mean above that of Jews.

    — Average national IQs according to IQ and Global Inequality (2002) https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

    Rank Country IQ
    1 Hong Kong 108
    1 Singapore 108
    2 South Korea 106
    3 Japan 105
    3 China 105
    4 Taiwan 104
    —————————
    12 Israel 95
    12 Portugal 95

    Hong Kong is a city-state. Outlier that draws in the smartest yellows. Same goes for Singapore, really.

    Israel is not Jewry; most Jews live outside Israel, and there are many non-Jews included in the Israeli mean.

    That said, yes, the means are lower for Israeli Jewry and higher for diaspora Jewry. And yes, the global Jewish mean is lower than the Ashkenazi diaspora mean. But on the other hand, in many contexts, “Jew” means “Askhenazi diaspora Jew.” The Jews in Israel are “out of the game” under discussion, in most contexts.

    My best guess at the global Ashkenazi mean is around 107-108, which puts them ahead of South Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Taiwanese, etc.

  217. Svigor says:

    P.S., the only mean score I’ve seen for Israeli Ashkenazim is 104, so even at the low end, Ashkenazim aren’t outshined by east Asians.

  218. Svigor says:

    Your solution–drive the Jews into the sea– is not only unworkable, it is immoral.

    Unworkable may be accurate, but no, it wouldn’t be immoral. They’re bad for us. My concern is with us, not them. They have a country they can go to.

  219. Seraphim says:
    @Sam J.

    I said that I can’t wait to see you doing it. How do you envisage this operation? You leading an ‘Azov battalion’ against the Rothschilds fortresses?

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  220. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @lavoisier

    AaronB is not thoughtful, he is subtle. A persuader. He is using academese to sell identity politics to white males. The needed counterpart to identity politics for blacks and women.

    “Whites have lost self esteem”. Oh man! Let’s gaze deeply into our navels and go to therapy for two or five or ten years, shall we?

    “Whites” are Americans or French or Germans. Americans, French or Germans should rally around their respective countries, cultures, and institutions (FAMILY), and fight for those. Have some children before thirty. Why should I limit myself as ‘white’ when I’ll have much better self-esteem as Polish or Spanish? Cmon!

    Very moral position too.

  221. Sam J. says:
    @lavoisier

    “… much more nuance is needed in your arguments…”

    Well our country is all nuanced up. Are you going to nuance the Jews away? Where was your nuance while the country was being destroyed? Nuance has failed.

    “…there is something fundamentally wrong with us to have allowed our societies to be hijacked by the interests of a small tribal group of people…”

    Duuhhh. You think? It may very well be that much 0ur failure is being really nice people who feel guilty about hurting people. Seeing as how the Jews have us murdering people in the middle east for them maybe we could do a better job by getting rid of the Jews and stop attacking the Arabs and Iranians.

    “…No society, unless it was corrupt at some very deep level, could so willingly acquiesce to its own dismemberment and destruction…”

    Typical. You’re only solution is to attack Whites more. Confirm and and multiply White guilt for…whatever you dream up. Notice that we haven’t tried “getting rid of the Jews” as a solution in a while. Let’s try that. It’s worked absolute wonders before. 100%, guaranteed.

    “…Your solution–drive the Jews into the sea– is not only unworkable, it is immoral….”

    I never said drive them into the sea as the only solution I said get rid of them peacefully but it not peacefully then however possible. It’s certainly not immoral to get rid of the Jews.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  222. Sam J. says:
    @Seraphim

    “…How do you envisage this operation?…”

    I haven’t talked about that. The first process is to decide that the Jews must go then work on ways to drive them off. We should try to get them to leave peacefully but they must go.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  223. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Sam J.

    Thank you for your response. I understand your anger and your frustration and I am sick over what is happening to white European civilizations everywhere.

    I still believe that only a society already corrupt and without a firm sense of self could allow itself to be so willingly destroyed.

    Bush, Clinton, Blair, Merkel,Graham, Ryan, McCain, Hatch, ad infinitum are willing accomplices to the destrution of their societies, their people, and the civilization created by their ancestors.

    At what point are these people to be held responsible for their diabolical treachery?

    The Jewish question must be resolved, but it would never have been a question if not for the treachery and stupidity of the goyim.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  224. Alden says:
    @AaronB

    What’s immoral Darwinism?

  225. Alden says:
    @attilathehen

    Hi there Betty

    I don’t give a rat’s a$$ about the clergy who work for any church. Why should I care? Why should you care?

    No one is forcing you to attend a Catholic Church and watch a black or Asian priest preforming the service.

    What business is it of yours?

    I object to the fact that the American Catholic Church, like the Lutherans, Baptists. Episcopals and all the rest advocate non White immigration. Like the rest, the Catholics get tens of millions a year for non White immigrant resettlement purposes.

    But all this hysteria about non White catholic clergy is just weird. And arguing with me because I’m not interested in the demographics of the clergy is even more weird.

  226. Sam J. says:
    @lavoisier

    “…At what point are these people to be held responsible for their diabolical treachery?…”

    It’s not hard to make a case that the reason they are not being held accountable is the lies and coverups pf the Jew owned media.

    “…The Jewish question must be resolved, but it would never have been a question if not for the treachery and stupidity of the goyim…”

    We know this is not true and is, another, attempt to blame Whites for the Jews awful behavior. We know for a FACT that several civilizations have done just fine without the Jews and we know for a FACT that several civilizations have come unglued after the Jews took control of them. The Jews are driving our society into the ground. The must be gotten rid of. The Jews must go.

  227. Alden says:
    @AaronB

    Your posts are totally out of touch with reality. The Jewish control of the judiciary is what impacts Whites, not the porn industry which only affects Whites who use it.

    Brown vs Topeka. Mecklenburg, the affirmative action Griggs and Kaiser vs Weber, rulings all these destroyed more White lives than watching porn and vulgar gay TV and movies.

    Just one unelected judge can overturn a pro White law such as California’s Prop 187.
    And you are blathering on about how virtue spirituality and morality will magically restore equal rights to Whites.

    Can you explain how virtue, morality and spirituality will force federal judges to stop ruling against Whites? Can you explain how virtue morality and spirituality will defund the great tax exempt charitable foundations that fund the public interest aka anti White attorneys?

    It’s my opinion that you have no idea of what has been done to Whites since 1956. You are just some religious nut using this website to post your favorite obsession.

    Your endless criticism of Whites is no different from what the media and academia does every day. The media and academia calls Whites racist sexist homo weirdo phobic etc.

    You call Whites immoral and anti spiritual and anti virtuous. You blame our lack of morality for affirmative action and everything else our government has done to us.

    You don’t seem to know anything about specific anti White laws and court rulings that become maws

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  228. Alden says:
    @Seraphim

    There used to be big crosses on public and private land all over the country. But Jewish attorneys succeeded in getting rid of them
    Jews even succeeded in getting a judicial ruling ordering that Microscopic cross that could hardly be seen removed from the Los Angeles seal.
    Jews have forced catholic hospitals to remove crosses and religious pictures on the grounds that the hospitals accept Medicare and government employee health insurance and that iscacviolation if the first amendment.

    All those Easter celebrations featuring sunrise services with a cross have been banned in public land.

    Jews don’t run from the cross. They destroy them as violations of the first amendment

    What world are living in? Surely not 21st century America

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  229. Alden says:
    @AaronB

    From low street girls to the highest end escort girls, prostitutes are very vuknrrabke to robbery, rape, kidnapping physical abuse and even murder.

    They may be immoral and lack virtue. The low end ones suffer from self esteem.
    But they take great pains to defend themselves from knives and guns carried by the street walkers to bodyguards for the high end escort girls.

    Immoral people don’t defend themselves? Criminals are immoral and they take have no problem protecting themselves .

    Please explain just how a White can protect him or herself from a federal court ruling?

  230. Alden says:
    @Seraphim

    Oh my God, laugh out loud.

    FYI it was actually matzo, unleavened bread/ crackers /wafers eaten by Jesus and the apostles at the Seder that became the first Christian communion.

    The catholic unleavened wafers are a million times more faithful to the Seder matzo Jesus told the apostles to eat than yeast bread.

    So you are a Greek Orthodox who’s still fighting the 1,200 year old schism when the Orthodox split from Rome.

    One thing about this thread. At least no return to Scandinavian paganism lunatics have shown up yet.

    • LOL: utu
    • Replies: @Seraphim
  231. Alden says:
    @AaronB

    Maybe massive doses of Prozac Xanax Celexa and other anti depressants will cure the Europeans of their depression and make a counterrevolution possible.

    This discussion is turning into Comedy Central.

    No wonder so many people are atheists and anti clerical.

  232. Alden says:
    @Sam J.

    Thanks, a voice of reason amongst the religious fanatics.

    Even in medieval times people knew that quarantines and fleeing epidemic affected areas as soon as the epidemic started was a better way to survive than hanging around praying.

    Crazier and craziest

  233. Seraphim says:
    @Sam J.

    Well, why not apply the same method as the Catholic Kings of Spain? Ask them to take Baptism and you’ll see them fleeing in droves.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  234. Seraphim says:
    @Alden

    You laugh at yourself. You don’t what you are talking about. The Last Supper was NOT a Seder. Christ give the Apostles to eat ‘artos’ (Greek: Ἄρτος, “leavened loaf”, “bread”), because He is “the bread of life”: ὁ ἄρτος τῆς ζωῆς. Not azymes.
    Rome split from Orthodoxy when it became faithful to the matzos, when it declared that the Last Supper was a Seder, although the canons of the Church forbid common celebrations with the Jews (“If any bishop, or presbyter, or deacon, or any at all who is on the list of clergymen, fasts together with Jews, or celebrates a holiday together with them or accepts from them holiday gifts or favors, such as unleavened wafers, or anything of the like, let him be deposed from office. If a layman do likewise, however, let him be excommunicated” – Apostolic Canon LXX, confirmed by Canon XI of the Quinisext Council: “LET no one in the priestly order nor any layman eat the unleavened bread of the Jews, nor have any familiar intercourse with them, nor summon them in illness, nor receive medicines from them, nor bathe with them; but if anyone shall take in hand to do so, if he is a cleric, let him be deposed, but if a layman let him be cut off”).
    So, it was not a ‘split’, but Rome was ‘cut off’. And her clergy deposed.

    • Replies: @utu
  235. Svigor says:

    “Whites” are Americans or French or Germans. Americans, French or Germans should rally around their respective countries, cultures, and institutions (FAMILY), and fight for those. Have some children before thirty. Why should I limit myself as ‘white’ when I’ll have much better self-esteem as Polish or Spanish? Cmon!

    Very moral position too.

    Well, Big Media, the anti-White regime, the oligarch class, corporate America, and Jews all agree. Which means it’s probably a shit idea.

  236. Svigor says:

    Jews have forced catholic hospitals to remove crosses and religious pictures on the grounds that the hospitals accept Medicare and government employee health insurance and that iscacviolation if the first amendment.

    Which, of course, is an obvious precedent for either forcing institutions (universities) that receive federal money to remove their Jewish speech codes and respect the first amendment, or striking the laws funding them down as unconstitutional. The goyim aren’t weaponized enough for this yet, I suppose.

  237. headrick says:

    When doing battle with an enemy, the Jews will always try to subvert the target by joining.
    I went to Opus Dei meetings in downtown Chicago about 10 yrs ago, and discovered as I
    listened to the proceedings and debate, that the most vocal, and probably the most
    erudite. Their positions were nuanced so as to call attention to who they were but they did not hide their origins. They always posed as converted, but they positions always tried to subvert conservative Catholicism. I now have mostly abandoned hope with Rome, and the Eastern Orthodox Church is the only light left on. The mad hatred of Russia boils over in the US and I think the conversion of Russia is one reason- coupled with their support for Iran and Hezbollah in Syria.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  238. Sam J. says:
    @Alden

    “…Can you explain how virtue, morality and spirituality will force federal judges to stop ruling against Whites?…”

    Excellent argument and obviously true.

    “…It’s my opinion that you have no idea of what has been done to Whites since 1956. You are just some religious nut using this website to post your favorite obsession…”
    The odds are extremely high that he is a Jew paid to write this stuff online. Hell my own government may be paying him. Sigh… and for both these reason the only sure way we will ever have any justice at all is if we get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go at any cost.

  239. Sam J. says:
    @Alden

    “…Crosses…But Jewish attorneys succeeded in getting rid of them…”

    So in actuality the only way to fulfill the dreams of the religious piously praying for Americas divine deliverance is to get rid of the Jews so we can once again teach the various ruffians in our country about the love of Jesus for us and how he died on the cross for our sins but if we do not rid of the Jews, there is no hope. The Jews must go. There is no other solution.

    • Replies: @Anon
  240. Sam J. says:
    @Seraphim

    Uhhhh…didn’t you read the article that these comments applied to??? That didn’t work. We tried that. No the only sure fire way is to get rid of the Jews. Move them away from you. Have no intercourse with them. Make them null and void in your presence.

  241. utu says:
    @Seraphim

    Russian and Greek Orthodox are dogmatic wackos. Russia was full of different crazy sects that split off from the Orthodox Church on various often silly and pedantic grounds like for example how to cross yourself or whether one can drink milk or not. Orthodox Churches just like Protestant Churches turned out to be quite helpless when confronted with communism and usually opted for full cooperation with communist regimes. On the other hand RCC showed much more robust resistance to communism and liberalism (see Franco Spain, South Vietnam, communist Poland).

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  242. Sam J. says:
    @headrick

    “…the Jews will always try to subvert the target by joining…”

    I have a surefire, 100%, time tested, confirmed and verified method of dealing with the Jews. Get rid of them. Throw them out. Deport them. Force them from your country. As I said this is time tested and results guaranteed 100% to work every time.

  243. Seraphim says:
    @utu

    @RCC showed much more robust resistance to communism and liberalism

    Not anymore:
    [Pope Benedict XVI suggested that gay marriage was a threat to global peace] but

    “Under the leadership of Pope Francis, the Catholic Church is evolving on LGBT issues. As theologian David Cloutier has noted, the process isn’t political—it’s spiritual. The church is beginning to discern more deeply the full measure of God’s presence in LGBT individuals and, yes, couples, too. There have been five notable moments in this evolution…
    The summer of 2014 was a remarkable period during which a number of high-ranking Catholic prelates signaled that Pope Francis’s more open posture had permeated throughout the Catholic world. In May, a top-ranking Italian bishop said that the church should listen to same-sex marriage arguments. A few weeks later, Brazilian Cardinal Cláudio Hummes, said he “didn’t know” whether Jesus would oppose gay marriage. In early September, New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan approved the St. Patrick Day Parade Committee’s decision to allow a gay group to march in the 2015 parade under their own banner. (Twenty-one years earlier, one of Dolan’s predecessors, Cardinal John O’Connor, said that to allow a gay group to march would be a slander to the Apostles’ Creed….
    The bishops gathered for Pope Francis’s Synod on the Family in October 2014 issued a report suggesting that the church should create a more inclusive space for LGBT Catholics. In the document, they said that the LGBT community has “gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community,” and they asked, “Are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities?” Though this language was rejected in the final draft, it sparked a conversation that the church could formally change its stance toward the LGBT community when the bishops meet again this October….
    Throughout the first months of 2015, Pope Francis had several encounters with LGBT individuals and groups, including a transgender man from Spain who was excluded from his parish community, and gay and transgender prisoners in Naples. The Vatican also gave the VIP treatment to a pro-LGBT American Catholic group visiting Rome and the pope met with a gay Paraguayan activist during his recent trip to South America.
    Collectively these events signal a church that is more open to welcoming the LGBT community and the diverse realities of the modern family than it was two years ago. After the Supreme Court’s ruling in support of same-sex marriage last month, Blase Cupich, Pope Francis’s handpicked archbishop of Chicago, said the church’s respect for LGBT individuals “must be real, not rhetorical, and ever reflective of the Church’s commitment to accompanying all people.” Such language would have been rare two years ago. Today it’s expected. Thank God”.
    @http://time.com/3975630/pope-francis-lgbt-issues/

    Revelation 22:15 :’But outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral*, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
    1 Corinthians 6:9: ‘Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral*, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts**,

    *πόρνος πόρνος, πορνου, ὁ (for the etym. see πόρνη), a man who prostitutes his body to another’s lust for hire, a male prostitute,
    **ἀρσενοκοίτης, ἀρσενοκοιτου, ὁ (ἄρσην a male; κοίτη a bed), one who lies with a male as with a female, a sodomite: 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:10.

    You know, the ‘crazy sects’ of Russian Orthodoxy have disappeared for long. If Russian Church was helpless when confronted with ‘communism’ it was because the communists made sure to kill 300,000 priests and monks (11,000 in one go in the first months of the ‘revolution’, when the RCC and many Eastern Rite Catholics saw a brighter future in Russia, ‘free from subordination to Russian Orthodoxy’ and Rome was seeking to reach an accommodation with the new leaders, the Bolsheviks, in turn, hoping to gain international standing by obtaining Vatican recognition).

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Anon
  244. utu says:
    @Seraphim

    No question that what is happening to RCC under Pope Francis is tragic. Nevertheless I do not see any other Christian church doing better. Should one be hopeful about developments in Russia under Putin? Russia Orthodox Church always does what the government tells it to do. When after Putin liberals will come to power in Russia the Church will be liberal. Now under Putin the official posture is to be conservative and traditional. Anyway, I do not think that the Church in Russia has any influence where it counts except for among the old babushkas. It is just a shell, facade, a Potemkin village. One perhaps should look at its finances to see what are the real mechanisms to keep it going and who does really benefit from its existence. Russia was destroyed by Communism and completely dechristianized. People are totally demoralized to the point of degeneracy. They have not atoned for the deeds of the past. Stalinist apologia is still rampant. There will be no revival regardless whether the leavened or unleavened bread is used during a communion.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  245. Seraphim says:
    @utu

    What a bout of Russophobia! You learned well your lesson.

    • Replies: @utu
  246. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Well, let’s take it as a good sign, this never ending disputes at Unz’s, of Western man’s unflinching search for truth! The Darwinists will tell you it is a male trait. I had retired, but will respond.

    The wonderful Pope Francis ‘thing’… Not good, of course. Many are rejoicing, of course. All of Pope Francis ‘doctrinal’ allusions unleashed the liberals restrained in the last two pontificates, and their outside allies.  To me, the real danger is the Catholic Church becoming one more geographical church  through empowerment of Bishops Conferences.  (those Jesuits! they are also good at institutional deconstruction!)  Would be a pity to willingly relinquish what has been gained through centuries of Pope/Emperor disputes, right up through Napoleon and Hitler and communism.

    But there are reasons for hope:
    1) His apostatic way of speaking has forced Catholic leaders to choose camps, openly. So well respected theologians, archbishops, bishops and cardinals are talking clearly. People are calling Cardinal Burke a modern day Athanasius, and his harsh silencing of Cardinal Sarah (who wrote “The Power of Silence”) was a mistake. And all those opponents want to avoid schism.

    http://edwardpentin.co.uk/cardinal-muller-warns-against-adapting-the-church-to-todays-often-pagan-lifestyles/

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-those-who-practice-homosexuality-contraception-adultery-cannot-rec

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/dubia-cardinal-urges-faithful-hold-fast-to-tradition-amid-church-confusion

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/two-italian-bishops-join-kazakh-bishops-in-profession-of-truths-about-sacra

    2) The last two popes had time to quietly cull many a bad priest, train solid ones, write up a recent (well, by Church reckoning) Catechism and Canon Law, and recall the Traditional Mass that was unhappily sitting in a corner. There’s signs young people are responding. Not only World Youth Days, but recently 8,000 US college students trained as evangelizers in 137 universities gathered in this conference https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/passion-of-the-christ-actor-we-must-be-warriors-ready-to-risk-our-lives-for
    And in the most unbelieving US generation, vocations are sprouting: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/06/fashion/dominican-nuns-of-summit-a-nuns-life.html?_r=1

    3) Benedict won the battle for language, thus for contemporary catechesis, and that is trickling down and out. In a nutshell: he called out the “Dictatorship of relativism”.  (Right reason already on our side, to put it modestly!)

    We shall see, the Lord works in mysterious ways. Ratzinger once pointed out that many Church problems are solved by time. Learn lessons, reflect, atone. Metanoia indeed.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  247. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    @ The Jews must go. There is no other solution.

    Got it. You’re sounding autistic.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  248. Sam J. says:
    @Anon

    “… You’re sounding autistic…”

    I think what you mean to say was,”realistic” as the only sure fire, 100% guaranteed way to stop the psychopathic attacks by the Jews on any country is to get rid of them. Also my comments are merely a response to the long winded confusing comments that have complicated “Whitey jump thru hoops” post how supposedly the only way to counter the Jews is to learn Greek, be super holy Christians that can walk on water and fly in the air, etc.. I’m merely pointing out a much simpler solution, get rid of the Jews. I’m trying to save people some time and sanity. Walking on water is stressful.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Anon
  249. AaronB says:
    @Sam J.

    Sam, your analyzing the problem on the level of action, I’m analyzing it on the level of motivation.

    You’re saying what we should do, I’m saying how we’ll get motivated to do it.

    It’s all very well to tell us what needs to be done, but if no one is motivated to do it, it’s useless.

    What will motivate whites to tackle the Jewish problem?

    They need to have a culture worth fighting for. Their group has to stand for higher values. Selfishness and self defense won’t cut it. Selfishness will make whites cut deals with the new regime, that’s all.

    That’s why on a very basic level you can’t base group solidarity only in self interest. Because self interest can lead you to favor yourself over the group. It becomes individualism eventually.

    Look at jews – they base their racial supremacy on tikkun olam, their universilizing mission to morally elevate humanity. Hypocritical, a joke? Maybe, but it’s the principle that makes them sacrifice self interest to the group.

    Group solidarity must be based on a higher principle. Selfishness always becomes individualism in the end.

    That’s the lesson of history. Ignore it at your peril.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  250. Sam J. says:
    @AaronB

    “… Selfishness and self defense won’t cut it…”

    It does for the Jews. I suspect if we try it will work for us. We can work on our culture all we want for as long as we want with an almost certain probability that it will be easier to do, after we get rid of the Jews.

  251. AaronB says:

    Jews don’t justify their supremacy using selfishness.

    They created the notion of “tikkun olam” which sees Jews as on a universal moral mission to elevate mankind. The concept of being a light onto the nations.

    This gives them racial pride and self respect and makes them think Jewish advancement is of universal moral interest of humanity.

    Mere self defense would dictate assimilation.

    One word of advice – look at all highly motivated groups and the narratives they tell themselves. The narrative is never one of mere self defense. It always has a universal ethical component.

    Self deception? Maybe, but no one tries to base their racial pride on biological determinism. Only modern whites. Maybe whites should learn the necessity of “deceiving” themselves once again like they used to.

    Once whites stopped “deceiving” themselves and became all scientific, they lost their racial pride.

    Materialism is what has destroyed white racial pride. You are perpetuating it.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Sam J.
  252. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    Hammer a simple point two times per thread. More than that, you lose credibility. Or weave in useful info. Elaborate. Elaborate a workable policy.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Sam J.
  253. utu says:
    @Anon

    Perhaps he can’t stop himself. He wrote “Talk about how depraved they are in the supermarket line. ” I wonder where he does his grocery shopping or perhaps we was banished to do it on-line.

  254. utu says:
    @Seraphim

    What a bout of Russophobia!

    I have reread what I wrote and I do not think it is a sign of any Russophobia. It is an honest assessment. If anything I am a Russophile, however for Russia that no longer exists, that was destroyed very effectively and irreversibly in the 20 century. Some revival of Russia and Orthodox Christianity may occur down the road but I doubt it. Not because of the faults of Russians which are many but because of the vector of change that is defined elsewhere and so far seems to be unstoppable.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  255. Sam J. says:
    @Anon

    “…Hammer a simple point two times per thread. More than that, you lose credibility…”

    Oh really. The people who bleat on and on about what Whites should do when Jews are the problem? I merely point out the futility of your approach and point to the direct and proven in the past method if dealing with the problem.

    Your great prescription goes like this for a separate problem, a dog with fleas. A dog has fleas. So the dog should learn to fetch better, chase sticks, only bark at strangers, sing operas, on and on. No if the dog fleas the dog should get rid of the fleas. All these other things can be learned later. The problem we have is the Jews. We must find a way to get rid of them.

    If I have to repeat this over and over it’s only because you are either too dense or actually trying to confuse the issue with meaningless “tasks” that Whites should pursue when the problem is the Jew. We don’t need any more “task”.

    • Replies: @Anon
  256. utu says:
    @AaronB

    You realize that you are doing the job of the funeral director here who wants to convince a corpse that seems to be still talking that it should stop fighting the mortician. If Sam J. manages to round up all those undesirables I think he should not forget about you.

    General advice: you should keep your idealism schtick in moderation. You know it is just a schtick.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  257. Sam J. says:
    @AaronB

    “…They created the notion of “tikkun olam” which sees Jews as on a universal moral mission to elevate mankind…”

    HAHAHHAHAA Jews, moral, mission HAHAHAHAHHA

    What lies you people tell. You have no shame whatsoever. This is why we have to get rid of the Jews. Constant lying, constant deception, constant corruption. The only know method of dealing with them is to get rid of them.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @utu
  258. AaronB says:
    @utu

    Utu, relax. Idealism actually does exist. You’ve probably read most of my comments. You know I apply the same standard to Jews, whites, and Asians – I’m a deeply flawed human being, but my principles are sincere.

    It is not yet a completely eat dog world.

  259. AaronB says:
    @Sam J.

    Ok great, so why don’t whites come up with these deceptive narratives?

    They did, once. The white mans burden was one. Pax romana was another.

    Biological racism is “honestly” selfish. It doesn’t even try and disguise itself in ethical language.

    Everyone else uses ethical language to disguise their selfishness, and whites used to. Do you really think modern whites can be honestly selfish?

    Well, I guess we’ll see. No one has ever dispensed with ideals before.

    But as utu says, I’m talking to a corpse that talks. Too few can see beyond materialism, and western civilization is dead.

    There’s no hope, utu is right.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Sam J.
  260. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    “..and western civilization is dead.”
    “.. There is no hope.”

    You wish! And you sound like Darth Vader. Don’t blame Utu for that.

  261. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    Ok. I’ll grant you I kind of like your analogy. Dogs. From Latin: Canes debent latrare. Dogs are there to bark. To warn others. To each his role in life. Consider twice per thread.

  262. utu says:
    @Sam J.

    What lies you people tell. You have no shame whatsoever.

    You seem to have no concept of soft power. Actually you are so helpless when confronted with it that you are outraged by for instance alleged shamelessness. Isn’t it funny that a person who advocates ethnic cleansing is outraged by shamelessness. You have a very delicate soul apparently. Subsequently you have only one solution, which is a final solution of judeurein and judenfrei world by any means achievable including a genocide. There are things one never does not speak about. One may think, one may conspire but one does not speak about it. Since you write about it in open text in a public place this implies that you are either a provocateur or mentally unstable fool of no consequence.

    You should stop.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @Sam J.
  263. Seraphim says:
    @utu

    It might be a ‘honest assessment’ of what you believe. It does not mean that it is correct. It is too much consonant with the slogans incessantly repeated by the mass media.

    • Replies: @utu
  264. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    These seem to be encouraging signs. But certainly they don’t go far enough.
    Let’s not forget Ratzinger’s leading role in Vatican II. Although ‘he seems to admit that he has qualms of conscience with regard to his own involvement as a peritus at the Council, he still insists that the Council itself was necessary” (@https://onepeterfive.com/benedict-xvi-admits-qualms-of-conscience-about-vatican-ii/).
    The Council raised hopes for a future ‘union’ of the Churches and many Orthodox have been fooled by the ‘neo-patristic’, ‘progressive’ tunes emanated from the Vatican, believing that the RCC would amend her ways, eventually renouncing her errors (Papal primacy in the first place). But as we know nothing of the sort happened.
    What should be done is a return to the pre-Schism situation, adherence to the dogmatic decisions, canons and praxis of the Seven Ecumenical Councils (elimination of Filioque, of the ‘Canon Law’, of Papal primacy, elimination of azymes, communion under both species, baptism by triple immersion, return to a traditional Mass). In short return to Orthodoxy!

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Anon
  265. utu says:
    @Seraphim

    There is an immense power in Orthodox Christianity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZxKsXM-biY

    Will it blossom?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Anon
  266. utu says:
    @Seraphim

    baptism by triple immersion

    Yeah, I am sure this will save Christianity. And the water, can it be chlorinated? Orthodox are hopeless petty dogmatics. But what one can expect from the tradition that did not develop philosophy nor science?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  267. Seraphim says:
    @utu

    Orthodox are convinced that faith will blossom if it is ‘watered’ by the blood of martyrs. Russia was flooded by the blood of 300,000 martyrs, led by the Royal Martyrs. Actually all Orthodox Churches are built physically on the bones of the martyrs. No Church can be consecrated if it does not contain relics of martyrs (however tiny) buried under the altar table or sewn in the Antimension. Russia possesses an immense treasury which she can freely distribute to the rest of the world!

  268. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Thank you. What a beautiful video.

    When I think of the Orthodox people, somehow it is always John that springs to mind. ‘The disciple that Jesus loved’. The mystic. We Catholics are Peter, of course. The unworthy stone that was judged, nevertheless, to be the one to look after the sheep.

    I am struck by the fact that both Karl of Austria and Tsar Nicholas have been beatified. We seem to be still hashing out WWI. Institutions like nation-state, head of State, head of government and family are up for grabs. Drawings and re-drawings of the social contract.

  269. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    I must be a singularly clumsy communicator. I don’t see the point of attacking another’s Church. But I meant metanoia for the Orthodox Church. Or, liturgical purity aside, it has nothing to amend? All of Utu’s points dismissed like that?

    Tomorrow’s good enough for going into Ratzingerian thought, if you care to.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  270. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    The Orthodox Church has very little to amend for, if at all, comparing to the Papist parasynagogue. Papism is the author of schism, not the other way round. Metanoia is for the Papists (and for the Protestants, of course).

  271. Seraphim says:
    @utu

    Now you are talking plain nonsense. You lack the most elementary notions about what Christianity is. But only ignorants are so bold in their ass-essments.

  272. Sam J. says:
    @utu

    “… Subsequently you have only one solution, which is a final solution of judeurein and judenfrei world by any means achievable including a genocide…”

    Please spare me your tears. I said, multiple times, that “peacefully if we can get it”. The truth it you really can’t see the Jews ever leaving anyone alone. They never want to live solely among their own kind as then they will have to start feeding on their own. You are making the case that they are hopeless unless they have someone else to live among and feed on. Whites, we don’t need any Jews at all. Not one. I notice you’re veering back into the “White Man bad” mode where by golly let’s not talk about the multi-thousand year horrible behavior of the Jews and focus on any and everything we can do to bash the Whites. Maybe they’ll feel bad and, we hope, stop taking about how the Jews are so evil. Whites have done great things and enjoyed ourselves quite well without the Jews. You don’t like Whites then leave. The Jews have their own country. They should go there and stop destroying what’s left of our civilization. They’ve already cased a great deal of damage. If they continue to use us as they have then at some point yes it’s entirely possible they will be wiped out but they will have no one but themselves to blame. I mean, please, blowing up building right in middle of our cities. Continuous attacks on the White people that made the country.

    Understand this all, any failings of the Whites all other civilizations have had the same failing but there are lots things Whites have done that is good that no one else has. The Jews have NO moral authority to tell Whites anything about morality. They earned none of it. Whites as general rule are some of the most decent people on the planet. If they were not they would have exterminated the whole lot of the Jews hundreds of years ago. We keep hoping you will grow up and stop hating and constantly manipulating everyone. Alas they don’t seem to be capable of such magnanimity. So the only thing to do is get rid of them. Keep them away from us. Move them into their,”shitty little country” and let them deal themselves with generations of serious human rights violations against their neighbors and, truly, everyone on the planet just about.

    You’re following the EXACT same path that you followed in Germany. Exactly. A bit slower but not very different. My guess is at some point you’ll purposely crash the economy and make the dollar worthless. Great fun for the Jews but…no more fun and games after that. What’s keeping people from rebelling is full stomachs. When that stops they’re going to notice what the Jews have done and it’s plenty. You think you can carry on this way forever?

  273. Sam J. says:
    @AaronB

    “…Ok great, so why don’t whites come up with these deceptive narratives?…”

    Cause we’re not a tribe of psychopaths. It comes natural to Jews. It’s part of their nature. For us, we would have to fake it. We wouldn’t be nearly as good.

  274. Sam J. says:
    @utu

    “…no concept of soft power…”

    Oh is that what you call blowing up buildings and faking that it was Arabs. Blackmail, you know the videos of underage boys and girls with Congress. Using massive amounts of money in the primaries to get rid of anyone for Whites. Constant propaganda, demeaning print, video and verbal attacks on all whites and especially White Men. I guess to you that’s “soft power”. The hard power is where you killed Kennedy and the Rep. from Ohio.

  275. anarchyst says:
    @J.Ross

    There was such a STEM school in 1950s and 1960s Detroit. This proprietary school was able to turn out competent, capable electrical engineers in two years. Back in the day, this institution was not permitted to grant “degrees”, but was successful nevertheless. This school was recognized by many large employers as being the functional equivalent of a college without the “fluff courses”.
    Newspaper ads of the day that were advertising for electrical engineers would put “college degree or RETS” as part of their requirements, RETS being the name of the proprietary school..

  276. Silva says:
    @Bryan

    I haven’t read it yet (but have heard the author interviewed), but it might be good to start before that with The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise.

  277. Silva says:
    @Andy Byron

    “who else comes on this site?”

    If it matters, I’m a working-class male (“white” for my country) atheist Market Socialist, and I think *actually* opposing sexism and racism (as opposed to practicing them “in reverse”) is right. I’m here because I think the Left doesn’t need to be as dumb/venal as it is now.

  278. Re-Visionism” is NOT anything to do. with (revising/revision) or the like ! it is as the great Harry Elmer Barnes has stated- “to bring history into accord with the facts” !!! Now before you dare have all those jews in ovens/ (G) chambers and the like ! find the research of so many Greatly heroic historians and researchers both jewish and not jewish whom were persecuted for their Enlightening work /revelations /experiences and most importantly the Truth in bringing ‘history into accord with the FACTS ‘.

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