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Punching Right: Inside the Battle of New Orleans
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Here’s an insider’s account of what went down in New Orleans this weekend:

Planning

As everyone knows by now, the Battle of New Orleans was provoked by the truckload of antifa who showed up to attack Black Rebel, Arlene Barnum and the Confederate heritage activists at the Jefferson Davis monument last Monday. They also vandalized the P.G.T. Beauregard monument on May Day and wrote an article about it on ItsGoingDown.org to celebrate their triumph.

The antifa attack pissed all sorts of people off who began planning on short notice to go to New Orleans to oppose antifa and the Take ‘Em Down NOLA event on Sunday. Many of us have known Arlene Barnum and Black Rebel for years. The League of the South was at the Monumental Dixie rally in Birmingham in 2015 when Anthony Hervey was killed on his way back to Oxford, MS.

Anyway, a steady stream of people started vowing that they were going to New Orleans and as this event began to gestate I created a Facebook event page to coordinate our activities. It made no sense for everyone to go in alone with no way to communicate with each other. Originally, the plan was to keep it quiet, organize privately, slip in unannounced and confront antifa.

As the League event began to materialize, we noticed that other groups announced they were coming to New Orleans. Based Stickman and American Warrior Revolution announced publicly on Facebook that they were coming to the Battle of New Orleans. The phrase “Battle of New Orleans” was coined by Black Rebel and the Confederate heritage crowd. By late Thursday evening, this had all spilled into public view and so I wrote the Battle of New Orleans article to encourage as many people as possible to come.

Confederate heritage activists, Alt-Right, League of the South, White Nationalists, the Alt-Lite and reportedly Patriot groups and motorcycle clubs were set to converge in New Orleans to oppose antifa. This was what we knew as we started traveling to New Orleans on Friday and Saturday.

Arrival

We arrived in New Orleans on Saturday afternoon.

After we got there, we set up our headquarters in Slidell, began gathering people and a small group of us who arrived early headed into the city to take a look at the Confederate monuments and to get a feel for the terrain where the Take ‘Em Down NOLA event would be held on Sunday.

The first stop was Jefferson Davis monument. A small group of Confederate heritage activists were stationed on the sidewalk across the street from the Jefferson Davis monument. At this point, we learned that Black Rebel had returned home to Oklahoma. We also knew that Based Stickman wasn’t coming to New Orleans, but that his supporters would be at the Take ‘Em Down NOLA event in the morning.

As we stood there at the Jefferson Davis monument, a familiar scene began to play out. There were lots of hipsters in the area which appeared to be undergoing gentrification. They would speed by on their bicycles, scream “you’re a bunch of racists” at the Confederate heritage crowd and take off. It seemed like carload after carload of them did this. It was happening every three minutes. It reminded me of the scene that I had witnessed at the Marching Through Oxford event in 2014.

After like the 12th time this happened, one of our people threw a water bottle. This provoked some consternation with the Confederate heritage crowd. Some of them thought this was making them look bad. We were sensing a vibe of weakness. These people were getting abused and attacked because they are so meek. As it began to get dark, we left to go check out Lee Circle, but as we were leaving one of the Confederate heritage activists explained to another hostile passerby that his granddaughter or something was non-White. I don’t recall exactly what he said, but it was something Rainbowish to that effect and it elicited a predictable response. Gosh, these people will never learn.

Anyway, we were not there to fight with the Confederate heritage crowd. We were totally focused on New Orleans antifas and so we left to go check out Lee Circle.

The Eve of Battle

When we got to Lee Circle, we ran into Anti-Communist Action. I really enjoyed meeting these guys. We had the same mindset. It was going to be a lot of fun to confront the enemy.

By the time we got back to Slidell, more people began to arrive. There was a mix of Southern Nationalists and White Nationalists at our hotel who had responded to David Duke’s call to come to New Orleans. Everyone there was on the same page regarding the antifas and Confederate monuments regardless of what group they were affiliated with. The atmosphere there was very much like Auburn and Pikeville. No one there was punching right and we cracked jokes into the night about shooting filthy antifas and communist scum with soap from our slingshots.

By that point, we already knew this wasn’t going to happen. The New Orleans Police Department had made it clear that we were going to be disarmed and couldn’t bring weapons of any kind to defend ourselves from the mob. We ended up only bringing shields and helmets.

The First Hour

The first hour or so of the Battle of New Orleans was great.

The League of the South began arriving around 10:00 AM because the streets were reportedly going to be closed off for Based Stickman’s event which was set to begin at 11:00 AM. Southern Nationalists, White Nationalists and Alt-Right people began to trickle in and banter around the Lee monument.

ORDER IT NOW

I recorded my first Periscope. Everyone was having a blast and this was only interrupted when the New Orleans Police Department bomb squad went in to check out the monument. Several of us left to go use the restroom and get some water. Then we returned and everyone gathered on our side of the monument where everything was cool until the arrival of the Cuck Knight and Bicycle Cuck.

The Cuck Knight and Bicycle Cuck Arrive

It happened so quickly.

I was standing around bantzing with someone when I noticed a commotion going on at the steps of the monument. The Cuck Knight arrived in Roman armor with an American flag cape. From my perspective, he began ranting about how he was half Jewish, had biracial children, how he voted for Trump, how we were destroying everything that happened at Berkeley and how we should unite under the American flag.

I don’t think the whole exchange was captured on video. I’ve only seen parts of it floating around, but his body language was menacing and threatening the crowd. Everyone assumes that the Cuck Knight is antifa, a communist, an infiltrator, a paid agitator or some Jewish nutcase trying to be a hero. Initially, no one believes he is really what he says he is which is an Alt-Lite civic nationalist from California.

The Cuck Knight charges and knocks over the Confederate flags. He gets dropped and in the process two of our people (a Confederate monument defender and a League of the South member) are arrested. They go to jail while two of our other guys have to leave the event. Meanwhile, Bicycle Cuck remains and continues to taunt and menace the crowd. He says that he is a “Patriot” and everyone there is white trash. Initially, everyone also assumes that Bicycle Cuck is also antifa, a communist, an infiltrator or a paid agitator. There is a video of him swinging at an Alt-Right guy in a red t-shirt.

Baked Alaska Arrives

We’re still shocked and very confused.

What the hell just happened? Who are these people? The confusion grows when Baked Alaska and Mike Tokes arrive shortly after the incident with the Cuck Knight and Bicycle Cuck. We notice that these two don’t leave. If they were simply paid agitators looking for a photo op, why don’t they leave?

From our perspective, the Cuck Knight goes across the street, cleans up, embraces some random black guy and comes back into the crowd. Bicycle Cuck never leaves. When he is interviewed by Baked Alaska, he explains that he is an American Patriot and all these other people are racists, white supremacists, hate groups, etc. He is very friendly to Baked Alaska, but remains extremely hostile throughout the event. We don’t see him confront antifa or the mob that came from the French Quarter at any point during the event. In spite of what he says, all his hostility is directed toward us.

The realization begins to dawn on us that maybe these people really are “Patriots.”

My Friend Arrives

Anyway, I am sitting here watching this unfold. I’m incensed that two of my friends are in jail. I get angrier when I see the Cuck Knight leave with his fellow Patriots to go to Jefferson Davis monument. From what I can see from my vantagepoint, he appears to know other people who are there.

While this is happening, my best friend from back home happens to be in New Orleans with his family. He is just there as a tourist and was unaware of the event. We meet up at Lee Circle and I briefly leave the event with him. At that point, I am already contemplating leaving. Why am I standing here with these people who are attacking us when I can be out having a good time with my best friend in New Orleans? Why not go find my other friend who had to leave earlier after the confrontation?

He’s going to check out the WW2 History Museum. I walk with him to the parking lot. I have second thoughts though and decide to return to Lee Circle. After all, the antifas are supposed to be coming, all my other friends are there to confront of them and regardless of how angry I am with the Cuck Knight and Bicycle Cuck it doesn’t make any sense to leave everyone else hanging in the wind over two individuals whose motives are still unclear.

So I decide to go back. There are three or four Oathkeepers in the parking lot. I’m highly confident one of them is Stewart Rhodes. I ask them if they are headed to Lee Circle and they say yes they are. As we are walking back, one of the Oathkeepers says to me “can you please move forward, sir.” WTF?

I’m getting even angrier with these people. Curiosity aroused, I decide to hang around near them and listen in on their conversations. Hitherto, I’ve been talking to Alt-Right and Southern Nationalist people. I haven’t engaged with the Patriot crowd.

The Crowd Arrives

After several hours, the Take Em Down NOLA crowd finally begins to arrive.

It has been six hours in the New Orleans sun. I’m sitting down on the steps of the monument. It is obvious that the main event is about to go down. The Cuck Knight approaches the League of the South and tries to start a 1-on-1 fight with whoever kicked him in the back of the head earlier.

A scuffle breaks out in the crowd when a black woman attempts to steal a Southern Nationalist flag from an Identity Dixie member. The police have left our side of Lee Circle wide open and hostile agitators begin to pour into our area where several heated confrontations ensue. We’ve been disarmed for hours by the New Orleans Police, but these people are pouring in and tellingly none of them are checked for weapons. For all we know, these people could be carrying guns, knives, rocks, bricks and they are occupying our area. Fortunately, nothing of the sort happened and the flag scuffle was the end of it.

There was nothing stopping the mob from pouring into our area and all hell breaking loose

The Patriot Betrayal

So here is the culmination of the Battle of New Orleans.

The Take Em Down NOLA crowd finally arrives hours late after marching in from the French Quarter. I’m sitting beside the Patriots from “American Warrior Revolution” and several of these other groups when they gather and start talking among themselves. Again, I don’t know any of these people.

I’m sitting down when I hear one of them say, again, I am not sure who said it, but it was someone on the hill, but it was let the mob attack the “racists” and “hate groups” and if they come up the hill then we will defend ourselves. The “racists” and “hate groups” are just as bad as antifas. This isn’t our fight.

WOW.

I immediately storm down the hill to inform the League of the South. I tell them what just happened and repeatedly urge our leaders to leave the event. By that point though, the League of the South, White Nationalists and the Alt-Right are engaged with the Take Em Down NOLA crowd. It is too late to leave because in doing so it will appear that the mob rather than the “Patriots” were the reason we left. This could have incited the mob to become more aggressive and launch an attack.

I’m beyond furious at this point. I storm out of the event, walk around by the World War 2 Museum and record a Periscope to let everyone know what is happening. I come back into the event where I confront one of the “American Warrior Revolution” people on a live Periscope. After some prodding, he goes on about how the people on the barricades on our side are “hate groups.” I captured it on video and show how the “Patriots” have gathered in a group at the top of the hill while all our people faced off with the crowd. I wouldn’t have been surprised if they had attacked us from the rear.

Notice the location of Bicycle Cuck here:

Leaving

As the Take Em Down NOLA crowd thins out, I go from furious to disgusted and leave for the last time. I’m just ready to go at this point. We all meet up later to discuss what happened. Everything is fine and by the end of the day it was crystal clear who was the real problem.

Aftermath

It is now Tuesday.

We’ve since learned that the Cuck Knight was real. He posted about his experience on the Proud Boys California Facebook page. What’s even worse is that more videos have come out which confirm that the Cuck Knight and other “Patriots” from California were cucking up a storm with the New Black Panthers at the end of the event. By the end of the event, the “Patriots” were ready to side with Take Em Down NOLA and the New Black Panthers and against the Alt-Right, Southern Nationalists and White Nationalists.

The YouTube video below confirms it. Just watch.

(Reprinted from Occidental Dissent by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. I will argue in this comment why the Alt Right, in my opinion, should not worry about or maybe even be somewhat glad about Steve Bannon’s diminishing power and role in the White House and within the Trump administration.

    My main contention and assertion is that I believe that Donald Trump is more trustworthy and “Alt Right” than Steve Bannon is or ever was.

    I start off with an excerpt from an earlier comment of mine from November 2016, what I see as the central weakness of Steve Bannon’s worldview
    [...]
    6. Not Repeating the Lie of “Judeo-Christian” Civilization
    Remember that the Tea Party was a genuine grass roots movement that largely grew as a continuation of the Ron Paul campaign. FreedomWorks was created by the Koch Brothers and funded by their fellow oligarchs to rein in this movement. They made very generous grants to local Tea Party groups as long as they agreed not to criticize neocon war-mongering, mass immigration, or the Federal Reserve. Within a year they were successful. Glenn Beck and the Zionist-bankrolled Pastor Hagee started national networks and put on large spectacles to divert energy of Tea Party sympathizers toward the neocon agenda. The 2010 midterm election was the last time Tea Party has had an impact on government. If we are not aware of this risk, our brief moment in the sun will be followed by a decade in the darkness.

    It seems to me that the Mercer/Prince/DeVos, etc. families are the Koch Brothers of the Alt Right movement, and Steve Bannon is their agent
    [...]
    But it’s clear that Erik Prince, through Betsy DeVos, through Robert Mercer and through his very right-wing paramilitary crowd, has the ear of President-elect Donald Trump.
    [...]
    Luckily the Alt Right was able to push back their infiltration and co-option attempts:

    A couple of weeks ago Steve Bannon’s protege and surrogate Milo Yiannopoulos ( read my posts, and follow the links in them, in this thread, for more details: http://www.unz.com/isteve/donald-trump-messiah-of-american-education/#comment-1663331 ) attempted to hijack and co-opt the Alt Right movement [...] I also want to give credit to Andrew Anglin for countering Milo Yiannopoulos’ intrusion into and attempted co-option of the Alt Right movement.
    [...]
    The infiltration and invasion of the ‘Alt Lite’ (not the Alt Right) by the Zionist-Vatican alliance intensifies:
    An Honest Conversation About Blackwater | Erik Prince and Stefan Molyneux
    [...]
    I agree, that was a not so subtle and elegant attempt at misdirection, but there is an issue with Milo Yiannopoulos
    [...] Hunter Wallace a.k.a. Brad Griffin wrote about it here:
    No, It’s Not MILO’s World http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2016/12/31/no-its-not-milos-world/
    [...]
    I don’t know what the future will bring, but I have always trusted Donald Trump and his judgement more than I have trusted Steve Bannon and his judgement.

    In my opinion, both Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner are no good, and Bannon is no true ally of the Alt Right.
    We need to keep supporting Donald Trump and steer him in the right direction and hold him accountable when he veers off the “Make America Great Again” and “America First” path.

    As I mentioned before, I think Ann Coulter is doing a great job at gently and encouragingly giving Donald Trump “tough love” when he needs/deserves it.

    My ideal scenario for the Trump administration would be if Trump fired both Bannon and Kushner and in their place hired Steve Sailer as his new chief strategist and top advisor ha ha ha, this would ensure that there would be zero chance of a “Invade the World/Invite the World” policy, plus Mr. Sailer would encourage President Trump to send lots of birth control foreign aid to Africa and the rest of the Third World and to declare “war” on cousin marriage in the Middle East. What an awesome vision ha ha ha

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-battles-of-berkeley-someone-is-going-to-get-killed-where-is-trump/#comment-1841454

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    W/o Bannon Trump is nobody. Bannon is the only person there who has brains and an ideological spine.

    I am somewhat surprised that Bannon still hangs on after April 4. Does he really believe that he might have some influence on opportunistic Trump or is he forced to stay to just make appearance that Trump is still on the course for his core constituency?
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  2. Well, idiots attract idiots.

    You have to change the debate from white supremacy to white culture. Black culture is encouraged and enable to thrive, while blacks have free reign to attack and disparage white culture. But if a bunch of whit people torture a black and hang him from a tree they are called racists. Go figure.

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  3. Where to start?

    First “race is all’ by which I mean to say there is no way you fight leftism and avoid on some level a very big leve,l as big as the left can make it; a race war. They can cringe all they want, but NRX is in fact at core racists,by the lefts definition and frankly any rational persons. Racism and racial hatred have nothing to do with each other.If you cant be comfortable with this get out or go read some more. This is not to say we are nat soc or white supremacists per se but we have way more in common with them than the left.

    The left morphed from class socialism to racial redistribution a long time ago, They are going to live or die by race war.to be clear they are the actual determiners this must be a race war.But we also are now at a point where its no longer debatable whether another trillion or two and decade or two will make us all equal, we know for a fact all men can never ever be equal, and some groups are so unequal common nations are impossible unless we countenance eventual death by either communism, or appalling permanent racial underclass, which will lead to agan death by communism Science now makes clear multiculturalism is impossible.

    So that means in the end we are fighting for whites to take back their lands from the left and their non white storm troops. White separatism more or less. We may have different plans after we again control our nations we may have different idea about how many non whites or how much rights those who stay can have, who is white, or how or if to remove them, or how to remove them from power, But at core there will be no stop to leftism until we all get this. and yes many on the right dont get it.

    In fact its probably hopeless, only one in ten americans believe the disparate outcomes of blacks are due to their disparate abilities. Nick land and moldbug can bring themselves to come out and say this bluntly, neither can the cuck knight types , go on breitbart commenters they actually thing they are the alt right and will attack anyone making racist comments as a leftist troll trying to smear them,alt right has entered mainstream and means almost anything.The christians are cucked as hell and cant deny the christian brotherhood of non whites. the list goes on.Besides the century and a half of anti white pro multicultural propaganda we have all undergone, many simply look around and say its just impossible to remove this many people.It may well be, but we must do it or perish its that simple. And thats going to take some level of actual civil war.

    To be clear the actual brains of the left is white and jewish and the non whites are merely poor souls being used by the left against us.The war when it comes to that , and we should be preparing before hand because lets face it if they keep the military and police and other key groups we lose. The war should be directed against white and jew leftists at least until the non white attack us of their own volition. It is hoped many non whites will self deport when hell breaks loose.

    These based stickman type larps if they are not intended to incite white riot and war they are pointless.Its not clear we are ready for white riot and war yet but we certainly have little if any time left.

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    In fact its probably hopeless, only one in ten americans believe the disparate outcomes of blacks are due to their disparate abilities. Nick land and moldbug can bring themselves to come out and say this bluntly, neither can the cuck knight types , go on breitbart commenters they actually thing they are the alt right and will attack anyone making racist comments as a leftist troll trying to smear them,alt right has entered mainstream and means almost anything.The christians are cucked as hell and cant deny the christian brotherhood of non whites. the list goes on.Besides the century and a half of anti white pro multicultural propaganda we have all undergone, many simply look around and say its just impossible to remove this many people.It may well be, but we must do it or perish its that simple. And thats going to take some level of actual civil war.
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    It is hopeless because white women control the state and dole out goodies to the races as they see fit. Women have a big heart and want to save the world so making hard decisions must be ruled out of court entirely.
    , @iffen
    You have no religion. You have no ethnicity. You have no cohesion.

    Your base that you wish to create from has been evolving into hyper individualism for centuries.

    High ability individuals don’t need religion or ethnicity and thrive in the competitive capitalist environment; they don’t need a “group.”

    You are trying to sign up high ability individuals who have had the noblesse oblige bred out of them.
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    You never know who is what in these situations. All these groups are infiltrated by government agencies so oftentimes the very leaders are agents themselves. A person should be very cautious about being egged on.

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    • Replies: @Pontius
    Reminds me of a few years ago when a bunch of anarchists started trouble during a protest in Quebec. In reality it was a bunch of cops in disguise who were ordered to start trouble as a pretext for cracking down on the event. Turns out it was a bad idea for them to all be wearing the same police issue boots.
    , @utu
    Few years ago in Germany they could not prosecute some neo-nazis as it turned out that all of them were government agents.
  5. I like the combination of ‘skinhead saying “cool Roman armour”‘ and ‘Hitler salute’. That is so dim. Even US services used the Roman salute (passa Romana) at times, until the twenties or thirties of the last century.

    Also the ‘proud boy’ thing, from my reading, their main spokesman is a three dollar bill.

    In Japan, nobody would dream of seeing people trying to dismantle the monuments to the various losing sides in the civil wars of the nineteenth century, the statue of one (Saigo Takamori) is even a prominent symbol of Tokyo, although he is from nowhere nearby. Many more in regional towns. I like those places, especially if on a normal weekday, no tour buses etc. The atmosphere is real at those times.

    Not that most of the insurrections or civil wars had much connection with chattel slavery (some did), but it wasn’t fully abolished in Japan until the 1950s, and not under Macarthur, but by a bill of the Diet.

    Enjoyable to read, a little confusing to me at times. The monochrome photo is very good, just a shame it stops at the plinth.

    In any case, I am too small to play tough, and not there, but am sure supporting you in prayer, talk with friends, thought, and sympathies. I read much info. from the west because the western left and centre are so stupid, it is entertaining in the same way as a horror movie that is bad but still makes you feel bad to watch it.

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  6. The Battle of New Orleans???

    In my country, the word for that up there is grootheidswaan.

    Let’s call it what it is. The lowest element of white American who has nothing to hold on but that fantasies about a glorious past and their superiority/persecution complexwas having a tantrum because the majority of the United States finds their “heritage” and history repugnant and as something to be remembered only as something bad, so what they’re doing is erasing that history….

    What’s funny is that anyone is surprised that these altright groups are kosher enough to form a minyan.

    I know all the insecure trolls on these comments are very concerned about maintaining their alcoholism or a woman’s “right” to show off like a prostitufe to the world are going to scream about this, but the entire Islamophobia industry — Breitbart and Jihadwatch and r/the_Donalf and the entirety of the edgy new right aside from trolls on the federal payroll like the Daily Stormer are Zionist in origin.

    They peddle this anti-Muslim stuff and push it so far into your brain that you’ll obviously strongly support Israel as an outpost of “the Wes” surrounded by Mahometans, and if yo don’t then your pastor will remind you and if you see through the BS you’ll be called an anti-Semite and your business will be ineligible for state and federal contracts if you decide to boycott a foreign state.

    They also push it so you don’t feel so uncomfortable with your military attacking Muslim countries, weakening and dividing Muslim countries and neutralizing threats to America’s “greatest ally.”

    Your enemy ain’t the Muslims or the black people who shockingly don’t want the people who held them in bondage honored, your enemy is the enlightenment and the philosophical and sociocultural underpinnings of the western world for the last four centuries.

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    You are an idiot.
    , @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF

    Let’s call it what it is. The lowest element of white American who has nothing to hold on but that fantasies about a glorious past and their superiority/persecution complexwas having a tantrum because the majority of the United States finds their “heritage” and history repugnant and as something to be remembered only as something bad, so what they’re doing is erasing that history….
     
    This is profoundly incorrect. The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture, and have a space for that culture to continue to thrive. If the rest of the benighted "American Empire" finds fault with this; who cares. They can go back to their safe space, and suck on a pacifier if it helps.

    To your second topic; I am perfectly fine with Islam as long as it stays where it belongs. There were observable positive aspects of it in Saudi Arabia, where it seems to play a positive role in maintaining an atmosphere friendly to family formation. I am saddened that Christianity is no longer able to play that role in the South; at least not in the "public square". But, Islam is a universalist ideology with a history that is anything but benign. Not something I want on my block. I would say the same thing though about "Yankee Progressivism", which has the same negative attributes. Also, not something I want on my block; hence the refocus on southern identity.

    The conflict between Israel and Palestine will continue until one side annihilates the other. I don't have a dog in that fight, and I could care less about the outcome.

    , @Rurik

    They peddle this anti-Muslim stuff and push it so far into your brain that you’ll obviously strongly support Israel as an outpost of “the Wes” surrounded by Mahometans,
     
    it's not 'they', it's you

    most thoughtful people are sympathetic to the Muslims who're under siege by the Zio-Fiend

    many people know that it wasn't Muslims, but Zionists who did 9/11, and who are causing all the wars

    so there is deep sympathy for the Muslim cause and their millions of victims of Zionist bloodlust.

    but then what happens is some arrogant Muslim asshole will try to sanctimoniously lecture the people of the West, and call our women whores, and be as insulting and over-the-top obnoxious as they can, until you start to actually feel sympathy for anyone who has to deal with Muslims like this.

    Perhaps you're paid by Israel to create sympathy for their cause by bolstering the impression that all Muslims are like you, eh?
    , @Abdī
    Salaam bro.

    Your posts are fresh air, mashaAllah. I'd like to invite you to checkout thephora.net. It is - like here - mostly islamophobes and racists but there are a handful of muslims such as myself that try to have a dialogue with these people. They are angry for many reasons, some legit others not. Hope you consider, peace brohammer.
    , @Abdī
    "Ami, si tu tombes un ami sort de l'ombre à ta place."

    TWMT,

    It heals the breast to come across a brother like you, out of the (digital) shadows. And MM was right to trace the rot of "da wes" back to the enlightenment but we know Moldbug has feet of clay. The true rot is the triune shellgame god aka trinity as you know. By pure logic we arrive at The Unmoved Mover, by pure scripture we arrive at الله. The symphony is in perfect harmony and those enjoying it are thought crazy by the deaf, dumb, and blind.

    http://www.unz.com/freed/the-place-of-christianity-in-history/#comment-1870366
  7. Welcome to Weimerica.

    Also, the channers are gonna tear this Van Duser fella apart.

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    we live in what is effectively a cult created by the media’s dishonest shaping of reality over 50 years

    now we’re at the point where actual reality is breaking through and forcibly reprograming people a lot of folks are going to act weird during their adjustment phase

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    It began well before 50 years ago, but it did not turn into a steamroller until after WW2.
  9. @Colleen Pater
    Where to start?

    First "race is all' by which I mean to say there is no way you fight leftism and avoid on some level a very big leve,l as big as the left can make it; a race war. They can cringe all they want, but NRX is in fact at core racists,by the lefts definition and frankly any rational persons. Racism and racial hatred have nothing to do with each other.If you cant be comfortable with this get out or go read some more. This is not to say we are nat soc or white supremacists per se but we have way more in common with them than the left.

    The left morphed from class socialism to racial redistribution a long time ago, They are going to live or die by race war.to be clear they are the actual determiners this must be a race war.But we also are now at a point where its no longer debatable whether another trillion or two and decade or two will make us all equal, we know for a fact all men can never ever be equal, and some groups are so unequal common nations are impossible unless we countenance eventual death by either communism, or appalling permanent racial underclass, which will lead to agan death by communism Science now makes clear multiculturalism is impossible.

    So that means in the end we are fighting for whites to take back their lands from the left and their non white storm troops. White separatism more or less. We may have different plans after we again control our nations we may have different idea about how many non whites or how much rights those who stay can have, who is white, or how or if to remove them, or how to remove them from power, But at core there will be no stop to leftism until we all get this. and yes many on the right dont get it.

    In fact its probably hopeless, only one in ten americans believe the disparate outcomes of blacks are due to their disparate abilities. Nick land and moldbug can bring themselves to come out and say this bluntly, neither can the cuck knight types , go on breitbart commenters they actually thing they are the alt right and will attack anyone making racist comments as a leftist troll trying to smear them,alt right has entered mainstream and means almost anything.The christians are cucked as hell and cant deny the christian brotherhood of non whites. the list goes on.Besides the century and a half of anti white pro multicultural propaganda we have all undergone, many simply look around and say its just impossible to remove this many people.It may well be, but we must do it or perish its that simple. And thats going to take some level of actual civil war.

    To be clear the actual brains of the left is white and jewish and the non whites are merely poor souls being used by the left against us.The war when it comes to that , and we should be preparing before hand because lets face it if they keep the military and police and other key groups we lose. The war should be directed against white and jew leftists at least until the non white attack us of their own volition. It is hoped many non whites will self deport when hell breaks loose.

    These based stickman type larps if they are not intended to incite white riot and war they are pointless.Its not clear we are ready for white riot and war yet but we certainly have little if any time left.

    In fact its probably hopeless, only one in ten americans believe the disparate outcomes of blacks are due to their disparate abilities. Nick land and moldbug can bring themselves to come out and say this bluntly, neither can the cuck knight types , go on breitbart commenters they actually thing they are the alt right and will attack anyone making racist comments as a leftist troll trying to smear them,alt right has entered mainstream and means almost anything.The christians are cucked as hell and cant deny the christian brotherhood of non whites. the list goes on.Besides the century and a half of anti white pro multicultural propaganda we have all undergone, many simply look around and say its just impossible to remove this many people.It may well be, but we must do it or perish its that simple. And thats going to take some level of actual civil war.
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    It is hopeless because white women control the state and dole out goodies to the races as they see fit. Women have a big heart and want to save the world so making hard decisions must be ruled out of court entirely.

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    Your point is spot on; this is what happens when you have 250 years of progressivism. I imagine that the one in ten figure is probably higher if you asked privately, and probably growing with all of the recent Black Lives Matter bustle. I don't know how it resolves itself in the short term, but with creeping developments in automation (which never gets talked about on TV or in politics) I just don't see how the status quo stands. Once a robot is picking the fruit, cleaning the hotel rooms, and doing just about every other menial task; what exactly are our lower classes (white and nonwhite) supposed to do with their time? Where will they get their daily bread? I just don't see how there is enough economic activity to tax in such a scenario to just pay them off. That means a descent into tribalism, and the only people with a workable solution will likely be the followers of Moldbug and Land (Well, technically De Maistre and Carlyle). Change will come; maybe not quickly, but it will.
    , @Colleen Pater
    Agree epoch if I had to pick one thing that doomed us I would say the european trait of much higher than average status for women that led to suffrage and feminism, more than our higher individuality which led to democratic government , more than our high trust leading to empire and multiculturalism, worse even than adopting that crypto jewish religion I think according women such high status has been our downfall. You might note I think most of these are traits we evolved, they have all them served us at some point. That makes them difficult to part with because not only are we genetically disposed this way but have a cultural memory thats positive of these behaviors. The most notorious reactionaries anmong us if honest will admit he has aspects of these traits and difficulty consistently letting them go. I actually think the solution is identifying these traits how and why they developed and how we can work around them rather than deny them. Many traits are repurposed triggered by new stimuli
  10. @Colleen Pater
    Where to start?

    First "race is all' by which I mean to say there is no way you fight leftism and avoid on some level a very big leve,l as big as the left can make it; a race war. They can cringe all they want, but NRX is in fact at core racists,by the lefts definition and frankly any rational persons. Racism and racial hatred have nothing to do with each other.If you cant be comfortable with this get out or go read some more. This is not to say we are nat soc or white supremacists per se but we have way more in common with them than the left.

    The left morphed from class socialism to racial redistribution a long time ago, They are going to live or die by race war.to be clear they are the actual determiners this must be a race war.But we also are now at a point where its no longer debatable whether another trillion or two and decade or two will make us all equal, we know for a fact all men can never ever be equal, and some groups are so unequal common nations are impossible unless we countenance eventual death by either communism, or appalling permanent racial underclass, which will lead to agan death by communism Science now makes clear multiculturalism is impossible.

    So that means in the end we are fighting for whites to take back their lands from the left and their non white storm troops. White separatism more or less. We may have different plans after we again control our nations we may have different idea about how many non whites or how much rights those who stay can have, who is white, or how or if to remove them, or how to remove them from power, But at core there will be no stop to leftism until we all get this. and yes many on the right dont get it.

    In fact its probably hopeless, only one in ten americans believe the disparate outcomes of blacks are due to their disparate abilities. Nick land and moldbug can bring themselves to come out and say this bluntly, neither can the cuck knight types , go on breitbart commenters they actually thing they are the alt right and will attack anyone making racist comments as a leftist troll trying to smear them,alt right has entered mainstream and means almost anything.The christians are cucked as hell and cant deny the christian brotherhood of non whites. the list goes on.Besides the century and a half of anti white pro multicultural propaganda we have all undergone, many simply look around and say its just impossible to remove this many people.It may well be, but we must do it or perish its that simple. And thats going to take some level of actual civil war.

    To be clear the actual brains of the left is white and jewish and the non whites are merely poor souls being used by the left against us.The war when it comes to that , and we should be preparing before hand because lets face it if they keep the military and police and other key groups we lose. The war should be directed against white and jew leftists at least until the non white attack us of their own volition. It is hoped many non whites will self deport when hell breaks loose.

    These based stickman type larps if they are not intended to incite white riot and war they are pointless.Its not clear we are ready for white riot and war yet but we certainly have little if any time left.

    You have no religion. You have no ethnicity. You have no cohesion.

    Your base that you wish to create from has been evolving into hyper individualism for centuries.

    High ability individuals don’t need religion or ethnicity and thrive in the competitive capitalist environment; they don’t need a “group.”

    You are trying to sign up high ability individuals who have had the noblesse oblige bred out of them.

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    Yes . . . Noblesse oblige ...

    It takes people who LIVE by way of STANDARDS, as opposed to EXISTING according to RULES. Noblesse oblige may be one of the markers defining standards-based persons.

    I’m all for capitalism. But, like others, see the existing capitalist environment as a RULES-based form of existence in which the RULES are strictly slanted to RULE out most elements of true competition.

    Most any “high ability” individual can, of course, give one’s SELF up and thereby “thrive” in
    such a rules-based (as opposed to standards-based) environment.

    And their need to exist -- within that $$$$-based GROUP -- no matter how high their individual personal standards -- essentially rules out the possibility of ever living as part of a standards-based group.

    Hence -- DESPITE THE NEED -- few, if any, real standards-based groups
    , @Colleen Pater
    I have an ethnicity, both meta and micro.
    I had to admit despite until fairly recently not resenting my catholic upbringing I didnt really believe it and was more a cultural catholic. Since then I have come to see all christianity is fundamentally cucked and irational and as emotionally attached as i may be to it as part of our cultural heritage its a toxic ideology that must be put in a glass box in a museum. The short explanation is it served us when its altruism accrued to us, when it was more rational than society at large, thats no longer true.
    I agree we have evolved individualism and I think that leads to democratic tendencies, also we have evolved high trust which led to altruism and multiculturalism and empire, also I think we evolved high status for women similarly run amuck. I agree these are a problem now and must have served us then. I think we need to face ourselves before we redesign a new civilization. we may have to compromise or think outside our current dynamics to find a new way we cant ignore our own HBD while insisting blacks etc cant escape theirs. I think you have already anticipated some of what we may find. Capitalism/socialism as we understand it may need rethinking. Before you get triggered Im for as hard core cap as possible but i think for instance we will find we will genetically insist on some safety net but that could be private insurance.
    cogelites do think they dont need anyone i was probably only 13 when my father had to quote Donne no man is an island to me. The thing is as much as I really believe that its not true and I am one of those people that actually builds his own house airplane boats computers etcI have always been a natural leader of men and independent thinker. But I have realized Obama was right that say Musk didnt build that. The great men like say Musk do great things but they do it within the infrastructure of a nation, cogelites can not actually survive alone and average people can not survive without cog elites. a people are an organism a nation should be a people not because muh furer, because thats just what we are . it would take too long to support but lets just say space x is not based in johannesburg for a reason.
    Some would say noblesse oblige is the problem you know. These high ability peeps you say care not for the white yeoman that as often as not were his parents, seems to care way too much about the camel jockeys,sodomites, sub saharans etc I think its more likely like all of us euros they evolved high trust and altruism but it is currently being triggered in favor of the wrong volk.Capitalism rewards them but deeper is the need for the reward status.cog elites crave status like everyone else they simply have their own little lord of the flies hierarchy. So we are back to religion, but it neednt be christianity or crypto christianity leftism, it simply needs to be a healthy authority.
    , @anon
    if what you are saying was true why the pozzed media wouldn't use "greater good" arguments to manipulate us

    universalist morality is a product of hyper-individualism

    there's a sociopathic dog-eat-dog individualism as well but if it was the majority drive then the media would be using that to manipulate us and not manipulated morality.
  11. @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    The Battle of New Orleans???


    In my country, the word for that up there is grootheidswaan.



    Let's call it what it is. The lowest element of white American who has nothing to hold on but that fantasies about a glorious past and their superiority/persecution complexwas having a tantrum because the majority of the United States finds their "heritage" and history repugnant and as something to be remembered only as something bad, so what they're doing is erasing that history....


    What's funny is that anyone is surprised that these altright groups are kosher enough to form a minyan.


    I know all the insecure trolls on these comments are very concerned about maintaining their alcoholism or a woman's "right" to show off like a prostitufe to the world are going to scream about this, but the entire Islamophobia industry — Breitbart and Jihadwatch and r/the_Donalf and the entirety of the edgy new right aside from trolls on the federal payroll like the Daily Stormer are Zionist in origin.


    They peddle this anti-Muslim stuff and push it so far into your brain that you'll obviously strongly support Israel as an outpost of "the Wes" surrounded by Mahometans, and if yo don't then your pastor will remind you and if you see through the BS you'll be called an anti-Semite and your business will be ineligible for state and federal contracts if you decide to boycott a foreign state.


    They also push it so you don't feel so uncomfortable with your military attacking Muslim countries, weakening and dividing Muslim countries and neutralizing threats to America's "greatest ally."


    Your enemy ain't the Muslims or the black people who shockingly don't want the people who held them in bondage honored, your enemy is the enlightenment and the philosophical and sociocultural underpinnings of the western world for the last four centuries.

    You are an idiot.

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  12. @anonymous
    You never know who is what in these situations. All these groups are infiltrated by government agencies so oftentimes the very leaders are agents themselves. A person should be very cautious about being egged on.

    Reminds me of a few years ago when a bunch of anarchists started trouble during a protest in Quebec. In reality it was a bunch of cops in disguise who were ordered to start trouble as a pretext for cracking down on the event. Turns out it was a bad idea for them to all be wearing the same police issue boots.

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  13. So now besides Civil War re-enactors we have Weimar republic street-fighting re-enactors. I think the up-to-date term of art for this is larping. Well, everyone needs a hobby and as long as it’s among consenting juveniles (oops, I mean “adults”) and no one gets seriously hurt, etc. etc.

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  14. Yeah why don’t you tell me how?

    You can’t, but it makes you feel better to call the logical and objective truth “idiotic” so you can ignore it

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  15. I know Baked Alaska personally. He had no idea who that Cuck Knight guy was or what had happened with him.

    He’s also a lot more red pilled than he lets on publically. He’s a friend of the Alt Right, not a foe.

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    For the last time, White people just go about your business, and stop going rallying to save something that is totally lost to you. Forget the statues and monuments. Most people aren’t your friends and you’re going to be attacked. The left and their friends always need an enemy to kill or wipe out and unite them in their multicultural socialist bliss. Don’t be the enemy. Liking white people makes you the enemy, hide that idea, become the passive observer instead, it may save your life. Don’t trust other whites either you don’t know who they are married to, and even if they wanted to support your rights they can’t without being run off the road. You really need to dump the Hitler support crap and for goodness sake dump support of the Palestinians, they stand with the left against you, the communists and foreign intervention. Try to be more like the Amish with electricity, a tightly knit religious group and Trump sucks.
    Just my two cents. Jane

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  17. @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    The Battle of New Orleans???


    In my country, the word for that up there is grootheidswaan.



    Let's call it what it is. The lowest element of white American who has nothing to hold on but that fantasies about a glorious past and their superiority/persecution complexwas having a tantrum because the majority of the United States finds their "heritage" and history repugnant and as something to be remembered only as something bad, so what they're doing is erasing that history....


    What's funny is that anyone is surprised that these altright groups are kosher enough to form a minyan.


    I know all the insecure trolls on these comments are very concerned about maintaining their alcoholism or a woman's "right" to show off like a prostitufe to the world are going to scream about this, but the entire Islamophobia industry — Breitbart and Jihadwatch and r/the_Donalf and the entirety of the edgy new right aside from trolls on the federal payroll like the Daily Stormer are Zionist in origin.


    They peddle this anti-Muslim stuff and push it so far into your brain that you'll obviously strongly support Israel as an outpost of "the Wes" surrounded by Mahometans, and if yo don't then your pastor will remind you and if you see through the BS you'll be called an anti-Semite and your business will be ineligible for state and federal contracts if you decide to boycott a foreign state.


    They also push it so you don't feel so uncomfortable with your military attacking Muslim countries, weakening and dividing Muslim countries and neutralizing threats to America's "greatest ally."


    Your enemy ain't the Muslims or the black people who shockingly don't want the people who held them in bondage honored, your enemy is the enlightenment and the philosophical and sociocultural underpinnings of the western world for the last four centuries.

    Let’s call it what it is. The lowest element of white American who has nothing to hold on but that fantasies about a glorious past and their superiority/persecution complexwas having a tantrum because the majority of the United States finds their “heritage” and history repugnant and as something to be remembered only as something bad, so what they’re doing is erasing that history….

    This is profoundly incorrect. The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture, and have a space for that culture to continue to thrive. If the rest of the benighted “American Empire” finds fault with this; who cares. They can go back to their safe space, and suck on a pacifier if it helps.

    To your second topic; I am perfectly fine with Islam as long as it stays where it belongs. There were observable positive aspects of it in Saudi Arabia, where it seems to play a positive role in maintaining an atmosphere friendly to family formation. I am saddened that Christianity is no longer able to play that role in the South; at least not in the “public square”. But, Islam is a universalist ideology with a history that is anything but benign. Not something I want on my block. I would say the same thing though about “Yankee Progressivism”, which has the same negative attributes. Also, not something I want on my block; hence the refocus on southern identity.

    The conflict between Israel and Palestine will continue until one side annihilates the other. I don’t have a dog in that fight, and I could care less about the outcome.

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    "This is profoundly incorrect. The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture, and have a space for that culture to continue to thrive. If the rest of the benighted “American Empire” finds fault with this; who cares. They can go back to their safe space, and suck on a pacifier if it helps."


    It seems like the one who is in need of a safe space, because you're the one whining about the reality that the majority of people in the urban South (black people) don't like your culture, don't want it to thrive, and are systematically erasing it from public life.


    No more rebel flags, no more monuments, gone gone gone.

    And tell me, why should they stand for it? And what are you gonna do? Nothing, that's what.


    You're going to moan and protest and eventually it'll be done and there will be nothing to protest, and you'll poison yourself with alcohol and softy cry "look away, look away, look away Dixie land" all the while that demographic becomes a smaller share of the population.
    , @iffen
    The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture

    What do you have besides archaic spelling, boycotting Wal Mart and pining away for a slave aristocracy that didn’t give a damn about the lives of 95% of the white population?
  18. @epochehusserl
    In fact its probably hopeless, only one in ten americans believe the disparate outcomes of blacks are due to their disparate abilities. Nick land and moldbug can bring themselves to come out and say this bluntly, neither can the cuck knight types , go on breitbart commenters they actually thing they are the alt right and will attack anyone making racist comments as a leftist troll trying to smear them,alt right has entered mainstream and means almost anything.The christians are cucked as hell and cant deny the christian brotherhood of non whites. the list goes on.Besides the century and a half of anti white pro multicultural propaganda we have all undergone, many simply look around and say its just impossible to remove this many people.It may well be, but we must do it or perish its that simple. And thats going to take some level of actual civil war.
    -------------------------------------------------
    It is hopeless because white women control the state and dole out goodies to the races as they see fit. Women have a big heart and want to save the world so making hard decisions must be ruled out of court entirely.

    Your point is spot on; this is what happens when you have 250 years of progressivism. I imagine that the one in ten figure is probably higher if you asked privately, and probably growing with all of the recent Black Lives Matter bustle. I don’t know how it resolves itself in the short term, but with creeping developments in automation (which never gets talked about on TV or in politics) I just don’t see how the status quo stands. Once a robot is picking the fruit, cleaning the hotel rooms, and doing just about every other menial task; what exactly are our lower classes (white and nonwhite) supposed to do with their time? Where will they get their daily bread? I just don’t see how there is enough economic activity to tax in such a scenario to just pay them off. That means a descent into tribalism, and the only people with a workable solution will likely be the followers of Moldbug and Land (Well, technically De Maistre and Carlyle). Change will come; maybe not quickly, but it will.

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  19. @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF

    Let’s call it what it is. The lowest element of white American who has nothing to hold on but that fantasies about a glorious past and their superiority/persecution complexwas having a tantrum because the majority of the United States finds their “heritage” and history repugnant and as something to be remembered only as something bad, so what they’re doing is erasing that history….
     
    This is profoundly incorrect. The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture, and have a space for that culture to continue to thrive. If the rest of the benighted "American Empire" finds fault with this; who cares. They can go back to their safe space, and suck on a pacifier if it helps.

    To your second topic; I am perfectly fine with Islam as long as it stays where it belongs. There were observable positive aspects of it in Saudi Arabia, where it seems to play a positive role in maintaining an atmosphere friendly to family formation. I am saddened that Christianity is no longer able to play that role in the South; at least not in the "public square". But, Islam is a universalist ideology with a history that is anything but benign. Not something I want on my block. I would say the same thing though about "Yankee Progressivism", which has the same negative attributes. Also, not something I want on my block; hence the refocus on southern identity.

    The conflict between Israel and Palestine will continue until one side annihilates the other. I don't have a dog in that fight, and I could care less about the outcome.

    “This is profoundly incorrect. The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture, and have a space for that culture to continue to thrive. If the rest of the benighted “American Empire” finds fault with this; who cares. They can go back to their safe space, and suck on a pacifier if it helps.”

    It seems like the one who is in need of a safe space, because you’re the one whining about the reality that the majority of people in the urban South (black people) don’t like your culture, don’t want it to thrive, and are systematically erasing it from public life.

    No more rebel flags, no more monuments, gone gone gone.

    And tell me, why should they stand for it? And what are you gonna do? Nothing, that’s what.

    You’re going to moan and protest and eventually it’ll be done and there will be nothing to protest, and you’ll poison yourself with alcohol and softy cry “look away, look away, look away Dixie land” all the while that demographic becomes a smaller share of the population.

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    • Replies: @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF
    I don't seem to recall whining about anything, but since you are so interested in plans for my own contribution I am happy to tell you. I will do exactly what my father did; have lots of kids, raise those kids to appreciate the culture they come from, and be willing to fight for it. Plan is already in progress actually; and going quite well. Others are doing likewise....

    I don't expect urban (or rural) blacks to support our cause; it isn't for them. Furthermore, I could care less whether they are ambivalent or hostile to it. The black population is economically irrelevant, a drain on productive society, and has an a mean IQ of 85. I don't hate them, as some do, but they mean about as much to me as they do any other white person; exactly nothing. The only difference between myself and those other folks is I don't have the time to virtue signal.

    Uncle Sam's gravy train will come to a halt eventually. It might be ten years or thirty years; Im young so it can be either as far as I'm concerned. I am not a stranger in a strange land where he doesn't belong as you are.

  20. @iffen
    You have no religion. You have no ethnicity. You have no cohesion.

    Your base that you wish to create from has been evolving into hyper individualism for centuries.

    High ability individuals don’t need religion or ethnicity and thrive in the competitive capitalist environment; they don’t need a “group.”

    You are trying to sign up high ability individuals who have had the noblesse oblige bred out of them.

    Yes . . . Noblesse oblige …

    It takes people who LIVE by way of STANDARDS, as opposed to EXISTING according to RULES. Noblesse oblige may be one of the markers defining standards-based persons.

    I’m all for capitalism. But, like others, see the existing capitalist environment as a RULES-based form of existence in which the RULES are strictly slanted to RULE out most elements of true competition.

    Most any “high ability” individual can, of course, give one’s SELF up and thereby “thrive” in
    such a rules-based (as opposed to standards-based) environment.

    And their need to exist — within that $$$$-based GROUP — no matter how high their individual personal standards — essentially rules out the possibility of ever living as part of a standards-based group.

    Hence — DESPITE THE NEED — few, if any, real standards-based groups

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  21. @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF

    Let’s call it what it is. The lowest element of white American who has nothing to hold on but that fantasies about a glorious past and their superiority/persecution complexwas having a tantrum because the majority of the United States finds their “heritage” and history repugnant and as something to be remembered only as something bad, so what they’re doing is erasing that history….
     
    This is profoundly incorrect. The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture, and have a space for that culture to continue to thrive. If the rest of the benighted "American Empire" finds fault with this; who cares. They can go back to their safe space, and suck on a pacifier if it helps.

    To your second topic; I am perfectly fine with Islam as long as it stays where it belongs. There were observable positive aspects of it in Saudi Arabia, where it seems to play a positive role in maintaining an atmosphere friendly to family formation. I am saddened that Christianity is no longer able to play that role in the South; at least not in the "public square". But, Islam is a universalist ideology with a history that is anything but benign. Not something I want on my block. I would say the same thing though about "Yankee Progressivism", which has the same negative attributes. Also, not something I want on my block; hence the refocus on southern identity.

    The conflict between Israel and Palestine will continue until one side annihilates the other. I don't have a dog in that fight, and I could care less about the outcome.

    The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture

    What do you have besides archaic spelling, boycotting Wal Mart and pining away for a slave aristocracy that didn’t give a damn about the lives of 95% of the white population?

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    • Replies: @Rurik

    slave aristocracy that didn’t give a damn about the lives of 95% of the white population?
     
    well put

    the plantation owners were the worst enemy of the poor whites, who were put out of work by the institution of slavery.

    which is why the idea that the Confederate flag represents slavery is so preposterous

    those men of the south were not fighting to protect that evil institution- that kept them poor so as to enrich the slave aristocracy, hardly. They fought because they were free men who had been betrayed by Lincoln, who had broken the covenant that the only right that the fecal government had to govern, came directly from the consent of the governed. The second a state rescinded that consent, was the second that the fecal government lost its power to govern. Before the "Civil" war, the (with the exception of the slaves) American people were free (if poor), and only suffered the fecal government insofar as they did so willingly, and with their full consent. After the Civil war, the fecal government was a de-facto tyranny, imposing its will on a defeated nation of subjects.

    The Rebel Flag represents that spirit of a bygone America that was free, and willing to kill or die to stay that way. And it also honors those heroic men who fought tyranny and sacrificed their very lives so that their progeny might know freedom.

    The idea that it represents slavery is just another vile lie of the usual suspects to denigrate and destroy everything sublime in the world and destroy the cultural and heritage of the people they hate so passionately - the straight, Christian, white, Southern man and woman.
    , @rw95
    Exactly. Unless you were part of the southern aristocracy, life in the old south was absolutely wretched, whether you were black or white. (Hell it was probably WORSE for whites.)

    Honestly, if these "southern nationalists" really want to break away from the union, I say let them. Their neo-confederate government will be a shithole in no time flat, and that's WITHOUT negroes taken into account.
    , @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF
    The origins of Southern Culture began in 1607 in Virginia, and developed quite differently from the northern colonies. I might suggest you do a bit of reading before breaking down over 400 years of history into an ill informed run on sentence. Start with The First Gentlemen of Virginia by Louis Wright and The First South by John Alden. That will get you up to 1782.
  22. @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    "This is profoundly incorrect. The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture, and have a space for that culture to continue to thrive. If the rest of the benighted “American Empire” finds fault with this; who cares. They can go back to their safe space, and suck on a pacifier if it helps."


    It seems like the one who is in need of a safe space, because you're the one whining about the reality that the majority of people in the urban South (black people) don't like your culture, don't want it to thrive, and are systematically erasing it from public life.


    No more rebel flags, no more monuments, gone gone gone.

    And tell me, why should they stand for it? And what are you gonna do? Nothing, that's what.


    You're going to moan and protest and eventually it'll be done and there will be nothing to protest, and you'll poison yourself with alcohol and softy cry "look away, look away, look away Dixie land" all the while that demographic becomes a smaller share of the population.

    I don’t seem to recall whining about anything, but since you are so interested in plans for my own contribution I am happy to tell you. I will do exactly what my father did; have lots of kids, raise those kids to appreciate the culture they come from, and be willing to fight for it. Plan is already in progress actually; and going quite well. Others are doing likewise….

    I don’t expect urban (or rural) blacks to support our cause; it isn’t for them. Furthermore, I could care less whether they are ambivalent or hostile to it. The black population is economically irrelevant, a drain on productive society, and has an a mean IQ of 85. I don’t hate them, as some do, but they mean about as much to me as they do any other white person; exactly nothing. The only difference between myself and those other folks is I don’t have the time to virtue signal.

    Uncle Sam’s gravy train will come to a halt eventually. It might be ten years or thirty years; Im young so it can be either as far as I’m concerned. I am not a stranger in a strange land where he doesn’t belong as you are.

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  23. @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    The Battle of New Orleans???


    In my country, the word for that up there is grootheidswaan.



    Let's call it what it is. The lowest element of white American who has nothing to hold on but that fantasies about a glorious past and their superiority/persecution complexwas having a tantrum because the majority of the United States finds their "heritage" and history repugnant and as something to be remembered only as something bad, so what they're doing is erasing that history....


    What's funny is that anyone is surprised that these altright groups are kosher enough to form a minyan.


    I know all the insecure trolls on these comments are very concerned about maintaining their alcoholism or a woman's "right" to show off like a prostitufe to the world are going to scream about this, but the entire Islamophobia industry — Breitbart and Jihadwatch and r/the_Donalf and the entirety of the edgy new right aside from trolls on the federal payroll like the Daily Stormer are Zionist in origin.


    They peddle this anti-Muslim stuff and push it so far into your brain that you'll obviously strongly support Israel as an outpost of "the Wes" surrounded by Mahometans, and if yo don't then your pastor will remind you and if you see through the BS you'll be called an anti-Semite and your business will be ineligible for state and federal contracts if you decide to boycott a foreign state.


    They also push it so you don't feel so uncomfortable with your military attacking Muslim countries, weakening and dividing Muslim countries and neutralizing threats to America's "greatest ally."


    Your enemy ain't the Muslims or the black people who shockingly don't want the people who held them in bondage honored, your enemy is the enlightenment and the philosophical and sociocultural underpinnings of the western world for the last four centuries.

    They peddle this anti-Muslim stuff and push it so far into your brain that you’ll obviously strongly support Israel as an outpost of “the Wes” surrounded by Mahometans,

    it’s not ‘they’, it’s you

    most thoughtful people are sympathetic to the Muslims who’re under siege by the Zio-Fiend

    many people know that it wasn’t Muslims, but Zionists who did 9/11, and who are causing all the wars

    so there is deep sympathy for the Muslim cause and their millions of victims of Zionist bloodlust.

    but then what happens is some arrogant Muslim asshole will try to sanctimoniously lecture the people of the West, and call our women whores, and be as insulting and over-the-top obnoxious as they can, until you start to actually feel sympathy for anyone who has to deal with Muslims like this.

    Perhaps you’re paid by Israel to create sympathy for their cause by bolstering the impression that all Muslims are like you, eh?

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    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
    • Replies: @Bill
    American women: not whores
    , @Abdī
    Thank You Kindly.

    But Muslims don't need sympathy. Everything is going according to the divine plan, there are no flaws in the decree of Allah.

    And if some disqus comments or youtube snippets from Muslims rub you in such the wrong way that you sympathize with zionist banksters then you can see you are not even a good friend to yourself, much less anyone else.
  24. @iffen
    The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture

    What do you have besides archaic spelling, boycotting Wal Mart and pining away for a slave aristocracy that didn’t give a damn about the lives of 95% of the white population?

    slave aristocracy that didn’t give a damn about the lives of 95% of the white population?

    well put

    the plantation owners were the worst enemy of the poor whites, who were put out of work by the institution of slavery.

    which is why the idea that the Confederate flag represents slavery is so preposterous

    those men of the south were not fighting to protect that evil institution- that kept them poor so as to enrich the slave aristocracy, hardly. They fought because they were free men who had been betrayed by Lincoln, who had broken the covenant that the only right that the fecal government had to govern, came directly from the consent of the governed. The second a state rescinded that consent, was the second that the fecal government lost its power to govern. Before the “Civil” war, the (with the exception of the slaves) American people were free (if poor), and only suffered the fecal government insofar as they did so willingly, and with their full consent. After the Civil war, the fecal government was a de-facto tyranny, imposing its will on a defeated nation of subjects.

    The Rebel Flag represents that spirit of a bygone America that was free, and willing to kill or die to stay that way. And it also honors those heroic men who fought tyranny and sacrificed their very lives so that their progeny might know freedom.

    The idea that it represents slavery is just another vile lie of the usual suspects to denigrate and destroy everything sublime in the world and destroy the cultural and heritage of the people they hate so passionately – the straight, Christian, white, Southern man and woman.

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    • Replies: @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF
    Meh, Slavery would have gone the way of the dodo without the Civil War. Mechanized agriculture would have seen to that. Lincoln was not anti-slavery until the Gettysburg Address, and most northerners did not fight to free the slaves. The entire narrative pushed today, which is largely fueled by Doris Kearns Goodwin's Team of Rivals is neoconservative poppycock.
  25. @iffen
    The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture

    What do you have besides archaic spelling, boycotting Wal Mart and pining away for a slave aristocracy that didn’t give a damn about the lives of 95% of the white population?

    Exactly. Unless you were part of the southern aristocracy, life in the old south was absolutely wretched, whether you were black or white. (Hell it was probably WORSE for whites.)

    Honestly, if these “southern nationalists” really want to break away from the union, I say let them. Their neo-confederate government will be a shithole in no time flat, and that’s WITHOUT negroes taken into account.

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    • Replies: @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF
    Most excellent. And if that is the way it is to be; then it will be OUR shithole. What ever will you yankee progressives whine about if us bumpkin southerners go our way though?
    , @Anon
    "Honestly, if these “southern nationalists” really want to break away from the union, I say let them. Their neo-confederate government will be a shithole in no time flat, and that’s WITHOUT negroes taken into account."

    Louisiana has a GDP larger than Portugal's. We'll be fine, even with "negroes" taken into account you racist a**

    P.S. you don't really think black people would stay in the South, do you? Nope. They'll be coming to your white-bred communities. Ironically, if there is ever a second civil war, it will be fought by guys like you to keep blacks out of your children's school and neighborhood. The excuse for that next war will be to end the oppression of Confederate monuments (while simultaneously murdering huge scores of foreigners in drone strikes...but you guys will probably just ignore that little moral inconsistency just as you did with your treatment of Native Americans: "Git of my land Injun heathens! Die slavery-supporting Confederates because slavery is bad - but not land theft and genocide, apparently!").

  26. @FKA Max



    I will argue in this comment why the Alt Right, in my opinion, should not worry about or maybe even be somewhat glad about Steve Bannon’s diminishing power and role in the White House and within the Trump administration.

    My main contention and assertion is that I believe that Donald Trump is more trustworthy and “Alt Right” than Steve Bannon is or ever was.

    I start off with an excerpt from an earlier comment of mine from November 2016, what I see as the central weakness of Steve Bannon’s worldview
    [...]
    6. Not Repeating the Lie of “Judeo-Christian” Civilization
    Remember that the Tea Party was a genuine grass roots movement that largely grew as a continuation of the Ron Paul campaign. FreedomWorks was created by the Koch Brothers and funded by their fellow oligarchs to rein in this movement. They made very generous grants to local Tea Party groups as long as they agreed not to criticize neocon war-mongering, mass immigration, or the Federal Reserve. Within a year they were successful. Glenn Beck and the Zionist-bankrolled Pastor Hagee started national networks and put on large spectacles to divert energy of Tea Party sympathizers toward the neocon agenda. The 2010 midterm election was the last time Tea Party has had an impact on government. If we are not aware of this risk, our brief moment in the sun will be followed by a decade in the darkness.


    It seems to me that the Mercer/Prince/DeVos, etc. families are the Koch Brothers of the Alt Right movement, and Steve Bannon is their agent
    [...]
    But it’s clear that Erik Prince, through Betsy DeVos, through Robert Mercer and through his very right-wing paramilitary crowd, has the ear of President-elect Donald Trump.
    [...]
    Luckily the Alt Right was able to push back their infiltration and co-option attempts:

    A couple of weeks ago Steve Bannon’s protege and surrogate Milo Yiannopoulos ( read my posts, and follow the links in them, in this thread, for more details: http://www.unz.com/isteve/donald-trump-messiah-of-american-education/#comment-1663331 ) attempted to hijack and co-opt the Alt Right movement [...] I also want to give credit to Andrew Anglin for countering Milo Yiannopoulos’ intrusion into and attempted co-option of the Alt Right movement.
    [...]
    The infiltration and invasion of the ‘Alt Lite’ (not the Alt Right) by the Zionist-Vatican alliance intensifies:
    An Honest Conversation About Blackwater | Erik Prince and Stefan Molyneux
    [...]
    I agree, that was a not so subtle and elegant attempt at misdirection, but there is an issue with Milo Yiannopoulos
    [...] Hunter Wallace a.k.a. Brad Griffin wrote about it here:
    No, It’s Not MILO’s World http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2016/12/31/no-its-not-milos-world/
    [...]
    I don’t know what the future will bring, but I have always trusted Donald Trump and his judgement more than I have trusted Steve Bannon and his judgement.

    In my opinion, both Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner are no good, and Bannon is no true ally of the Alt Right.
    We need to keep supporting Donald Trump and steer him in the right direction and hold him accountable when he veers off the “Make America Great Again” and “America First” path.

    As I mentioned before, I think Ann Coulter is doing a great job at gently and encouragingly giving Donald Trump “tough love” when he needs/deserves it.

    My ideal scenario for the Trump administration would be if Trump fired both Bannon and Kushner and in their place hired Steve Sailer as his new chief strategist and top advisor ha ha ha, this would ensure that there would be zero chance of a “Invade the World/Invite the World” policy, plus Mr. Sailer would encourage President Trump to send lots of birth control foreign aid to Africa and the rest of the Third World and to declare “war” on cousin marriage in the Middle East. What an awesome vision ha ha ha
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-battles-of-berkeley-someone-is-going-to-get-killed-where-is-trump/#comment-1841454

    W/o Bannon Trump is nobody. Bannon is the only person there who has brains and an ideological spine.

    I am somewhat surprised that Bannon still hangs on after April 4. Does he really believe that he might have some influence on opportunistic Trump or is he forced to stay to just make appearance that Trump is still on the course for his core constituency?

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  27. @anonymous
    You never know who is what in these situations. All these groups are infiltrated by government agencies so oftentimes the very leaders are agents themselves. A person should be very cautious about being egged on.

    Few years ago in Germany they could not prosecute some neo-nazis as it turned out that all of them were government agents.

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  28. @epochehusserl
    In fact its probably hopeless, only one in ten americans believe the disparate outcomes of blacks are due to their disparate abilities. Nick land and moldbug can bring themselves to come out and say this bluntly, neither can the cuck knight types , go on breitbart commenters they actually thing they are the alt right and will attack anyone making racist comments as a leftist troll trying to smear them,alt right has entered mainstream and means almost anything.The christians are cucked as hell and cant deny the christian brotherhood of non whites. the list goes on.Besides the century and a half of anti white pro multicultural propaganda we have all undergone, many simply look around and say its just impossible to remove this many people.It may well be, but we must do it or perish its that simple. And thats going to take some level of actual civil war.
    -------------------------------------------------
    It is hopeless because white women control the state and dole out goodies to the races as they see fit. Women have a big heart and want to save the world so making hard decisions must be ruled out of court entirely.

    Agree epoch if I had to pick one thing that doomed us I would say the european trait of much higher than average status for women that led to suffrage and feminism, more than our higher individuality which led to democratic government , more than our high trust leading to empire and multiculturalism, worse even than adopting that crypto jewish religion I think according women such high status has been our downfall. You might note I think most of these are traits we evolved, they have all them served us at some point. That makes them difficult to part with because not only are we genetically disposed this way but have a cultural memory thats positive of these behaviors. The most notorious reactionaries anmong us if honest will admit he has aspects of these traits and difficulty consistently letting them go. I actually think the solution is identifying these traits how and why they developed and how we can work around them rather than deny them. Many traits are repurposed triggered by new stimuli

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  29. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Antifa? What’s the Antifa? Isn’t just a renamed version of the old Jewish Defense League(JDL)

    You remember the JDF don’t you? It was the organization that used to regularly beat up people it considered anti Semitic or anti Israel or who questioned the Holocaust figures. Its members often used baseball bats along with fists or other implements on either individuals or groups of people who attended events put on by the disfavored groups. No less a figure than JDL mentor Meyer Lansky once described how throwing enemies out of upper story windows had in the past proven to be a good technique for quieting political dissent (such as that coming from pre war America First supporters..)

    The mainstream media (MSM) didn’t care when the JDL was just beating up people the JDL labeled as “Neo-Nazis or Holocaust doubters. In fact, the MSM often seemed to feel that the enemies of the JDL deserved a little beat up for daring to think that they actually had any First Amendment rights. Burning down people’s houses was also fully approved by the JDL (and ignored by the media) especially in Canada.

    But then the JDL went a little bit too far and attempted to bomb Congressman Darrell Isssa’s office. Issa, of Lebanese descent, though that the genocide then been perpetrated by Israel in Lebanon on his distant relatives was a little little bit too much and dared to complain.. This resulted in the intense ire of the JDL and the plans for the bombing. The plot was found out and resulted in the JDL being listed as a terrorist group. JDF founder and chief bomb plotter Irv Rubin being imprisoned for a long stretch despite unsuccessful pleas for a lesser sentence by some of the very same people who were later to successfully use their influence and money to free Jonathan Pollard.

    The Antifa is simply the new and improved version of the JDL. No more bombs, especially directed at members of Congress, ( that results in a little bit too much bad publicity). But still quite ready to use the baseball bats and fists along with the mace (their new weapon of choice).The Antifa already knows that its main money men control the media so, as was the case with the old JDL, they won’t be getting too much bad media attention unless they do something really horrific that the media simply can’t avoid covering.

    And when the Antifa wants the violence to increase exponentially and the sh-t to really hit the fan it won’t get involved itself. Instead it only has to get in touch with the Black Lives Matter folks who will be more than willing to burn down a few houses and stores or maybe shoot a few more cops.

    The Antifa will wholeheartedly approve of all this just as long as the houses and Asian owned stores are in the ghetto or in working class white neighborhoods. It certainly won’t approve if the burn-downs are in the expensive downtown areas or in expensive residential areas where there is a good chance that the buildings are owned by some of the very same money men who pay their wages and c0ntrol their organizations.

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    The Jewish Defense League isn't just old. The thugs may have been driven underground here, but this year the Canadian branch showed up in DC to heckle the anti-AIPAC demonstrators. After beating down a middle aged Palestinian-American who strayed too close, a few of them were arrested.
    , @Hibernian
    "...JDL mentor Meyer Lansky...

    Do you meen Meier Kahane or do you really mean Meyer Lansky?
  30. @iffen
    You have no religion. You have no ethnicity. You have no cohesion.

    Your base that you wish to create from has been evolving into hyper individualism for centuries.

    High ability individuals don’t need religion or ethnicity and thrive in the competitive capitalist environment; they don’t need a “group.”

    You are trying to sign up high ability individuals who have had the noblesse oblige bred out of them.

    I have an ethnicity, both meta and micro.
    I had to admit despite until fairly recently not resenting my catholic upbringing I didnt really believe it and was more a cultural catholic. Since then I have come to see all christianity is fundamentally cucked and irational and as emotionally attached as i may be to it as part of our cultural heritage its a toxic ideology that must be put in a glass box in a museum. The short explanation is it served us when its altruism accrued to us, when it was more rational than society at large, thats no longer true.
    I agree we have evolved individualism and I think that leads to democratic tendencies, also we have evolved high trust which led to altruism and multiculturalism and empire, also I think we evolved high status for women similarly run amuck. I agree these are a problem now and must have served us then. I think we need to face ourselves before we redesign a new civilization. we may have to compromise or think outside our current dynamics to find a new way we cant ignore our own HBD while insisting blacks etc cant escape theirs. I think you have already anticipated some of what we may find. Capitalism/socialism as we understand it may need rethinking. Before you get triggered Im for as hard core cap as possible but i think for instance we will find we will genetically insist on some safety net but that could be private insurance.
    cogelites do think they dont need anyone i was probably only 13 when my father had to quote Donne no man is an island to me. The thing is as much as I really believe that its not true and I am one of those people that actually builds his own house airplane boats computers etcI have always been a natural leader of men and independent thinker. But I have realized Obama was right that say Musk didnt build that. The great men like say Musk do great things but they do it within the infrastructure of a nation, cogelites can not actually survive alone and average people can not survive without cog elites. a people are an organism a nation should be a people not because muh furer, because thats just what we are . it would take too long to support but lets just say space x is not based in johannesburg for a reason.
    Some would say noblesse oblige is the problem you know. These high ability peeps you say care not for the white yeoman that as often as not were his parents, seems to care way too much about the camel jockeys,sodomites, sub saharans etc I think its more likely like all of us euros they evolved high trust and altruism but it is currently being triggered in favor of the wrong volk.Capitalism rewards them but deeper is the need for the reward status.cog elites crave status like everyone else they simply have their own little lord of the flies hierarchy. So we are back to religion, but it neednt be christianity or crypto christianity leftism, it simply needs to be a healthy authority.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    they evolved high trust and altruism but it is currently being triggered in favor of the wrong volk.

    There is no volk for them. They are the anti-volk. What is being triggered is their intent to separate from whites, such as yourself, who want a pan-white volk. They view whites who cling to religious, ethnic, racial or national differences as primitives and as the out-group to themselves. They tolerate volkishness in non-whites as their (non-whites) defense against the dominant whites of the past.

  31. @iffen
    The Southern Nationalist objective is to maintain a distinct culture

    What do you have besides archaic spelling, boycotting Wal Mart and pining away for a slave aristocracy that didn’t give a damn about the lives of 95% of the white population?

    The origins of Southern Culture began in 1607 in Virginia, and developed quite differently from the northern colonies. I might suggest you do a bit of reading before breaking down over 400 years of history into an ill informed run on sentence. Start with The First Gentlemen of Virginia by Louis Wright and The First South by John Alden. That will get you up to 1782.

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    • Replies: @Jake
    Also read William R. Taylor's Cavalier and Yankee and David Hackett Fischer's Albion's Seed, and Grady McWhiney's Cracker Culture, as well as his earlier co-written book Attack and Die: Civil War Tactics and the Southern Heritage.

    The key for the differences between North and South is less due to the first settlers of each than to the later arriving Scots-Irish, who overwhelmingly headed to the Southern back country. Southern novels show the that notion very well, though the only book I know to emphasize it is How Celtic Culture Invented Southern Literature.
  32. @rw95
    Exactly. Unless you were part of the southern aristocracy, life in the old south was absolutely wretched, whether you were black or white. (Hell it was probably WORSE for whites.)

    Honestly, if these "southern nationalists" really want to break away from the union, I say let them. Their neo-confederate government will be a shithole in no time flat, and that's WITHOUT negroes taken into account.

    Most excellent. And if that is the way it is to be; then it will be OUR shithole. What ever will you yankee progressives whine about if us bumpkin southerners go our way though?

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    • Replies: @iffen
    yankee progressives whine about if us bumpkin southerners go our way though?

    You don't have to worry about Yankees anymore. You need to worry about the authentic bumpkin southerners like me. Those Southron aristocrats that you pine for took the lives and body parts of my 3rd great grandfathers and left their wives and children to starve in an agrarian subsistence economy. Lucky for me they were strong women who survived and kept my 2nd great grandparents alive just to make sure that I am in this world to oppose the nonsense that you espouse, not to mention honoring those strong women by being a equity feminist.

    Look away and avert your gaze, you can't put the serfs back to work after they have left the farm.

  33. @Rurik

    slave aristocracy that didn’t give a damn about the lives of 95% of the white population?
     
    well put

    the plantation owners were the worst enemy of the poor whites, who were put out of work by the institution of slavery.

    which is why the idea that the Confederate flag represents slavery is so preposterous

    those men of the south were not fighting to protect that evil institution- that kept them poor so as to enrich the slave aristocracy, hardly. They fought because they were free men who had been betrayed by Lincoln, who had broken the covenant that the only right that the fecal government had to govern, came directly from the consent of the governed. The second a state rescinded that consent, was the second that the fecal government lost its power to govern. Before the "Civil" war, the (with the exception of the slaves) American people were free (if poor), and only suffered the fecal government insofar as they did so willingly, and with their full consent. After the Civil war, the fecal government was a de-facto tyranny, imposing its will on a defeated nation of subjects.

    The Rebel Flag represents that spirit of a bygone America that was free, and willing to kill or die to stay that way. And it also honors those heroic men who fought tyranny and sacrificed their very lives so that their progeny might know freedom.

    The idea that it represents slavery is just another vile lie of the usual suspects to denigrate and destroy everything sublime in the world and destroy the cultural and heritage of the people they hate so passionately - the straight, Christian, white, Southern man and woman.

    Meh, Slavery would have gone the way of the dodo without the Civil War. Mechanized agriculture would have seen to that. Lincoln was not anti-slavery until the Gettysburg Address, and most northerners did not fight to free the slaves. The entire narrative pushed today, which is largely fueled by Doris Kearns Goodwin’s Team of Rivals is neoconservative poppycock.

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    • Replies: @Rurik
    um, I think that is pretty much what I just said..

    the civil war was the North putting their boot on the neck of the South, in much the same way the world wars were England and co. putting their boot on Germany's neck

    envy and gall unleashed

  34. February 26, 2017 Democrat Party . . . White sheets to brown shirts Part 1

    The Democrat Party is the oldest continually functioning political party in the world, dating back to 1792, as the Jeffersonian Republicans or Democratic-Republicans. it was the party of Thomas Jefferson; a party formed in opposition to the aristocratic Federalist Party of Alexander Hamilton and the Founders who believed in a strong central government. The name “Democrat Party” was adopted in the 1830’s during the Jackson Presidency.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/02/26/democrat-party-white-sheets-to-brown-shirts-part-1/

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  35. @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF
    Most excellent. And if that is the way it is to be; then it will be OUR shithole. What ever will you yankee progressives whine about if us bumpkin southerners go our way though?

    yankee progressives whine about if us bumpkin southerners go our way though?

    You don’t have to worry about Yankees anymore. You need to worry about the authentic bumpkin southerners like me. Those Southron aristocrats that you pine for took the lives and body parts of my 3rd great grandfathers and left their wives and children to starve in an agrarian subsistence economy. Lucky for me they were strong women who survived and kept my 2nd great grandparents alive just to make sure that I am in this world to oppose the nonsense that you espouse, not to mention honoring those strong women by being a equity feminist.

    Look away and avert your gaze, you can’t put the serfs back to work after they have left the farm.

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    • Replies: @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF
    I am genuinely sorry for your family's hardship. My great great grandfathers and uncles were all simple farmers themselves in Georgia. Only one of them owned a slave and they shared the work. But to say that these men fought for an aristocratic classes' privledge is incorrect. It was a fight for blood and soil for my kin.

    And, I do rather worry about Yankees these days. They seem to be the only ones in town voting for the things that made them flee where they came from. We tend to resent the attitude that they know better than we do. Which is the point you bring up concerning our antebellum aristocrats if I'm not mistaken
    , @Daniel Chieh
    Oh please, things would have gotten terrible for the small farmers no matter what due to the importance of capital such as mechanization. Blaming the aristocracy is probably not the entire answer, and certainly supporting feminism which has come to largely ruin modern life isn't helping the situation.
  36. I highly suggest Cuck Knight was an infiltrator trying to cause chaos. This makes no sense for even civic nationalists to punch right at the moment, when we’re all trying to avoid getting hung separately.

    In case he isn’t, someone please take him behind a shed and beat some sense into him. Thanks.

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  37. @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF
    Meh, Slavery would have gone the way of the dodo without the Civil War. Mechanized agriculture would have seen to that. Lincoln was not anti-slavery until the Gettysburg Address, and most northerners did not fight to free the slaves. The entire narrative pushed today, which is largely fueled by Doris Kearns Goodwin's Team of Rivals is neoconservative poppycock.

    um, I think that is pretty much what I just said..

    the civil war was the North putting their boot on the neck of the South, in much the same way the world wars were England and co. putting their boot on Germany’s neck

    envy and gall unleashed

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    • Replies: @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF
    Very good connection there. Germany was on the rise in the early 20th century, and I have read that the English figured we can either fight them now or later; better now when we have naval superiority. Unfortunate things turned out that way, in hindsight WW1 and WW2 were the beginning of the end for the west.
  38. @iffen
    yankee progressives whine about if us bumpkin southerners go our way though?

    You don't have to worry about Yankees anymore. You need to worry about the authentic bumpkin southerners like me. Those Southron aristocrats that you pine for took the lives and body parts of my 3rd great grandfathers and left their wives and children to starve in an agrarian subsistence economy. Lucky for me they were strong women who survived and kept my 2nd great grandparents alive just to make sure that I am in this world to oppose the nonsense that you espouse, not to mention honoring those strong women by being a equity feminist.

    Look away and avert your gaze, you can't put the serfs back to work after they have left the farm.

    I am genuinely sorry for your family’s hardship. My great great grandfathers and uncles were all simple farmers themselves in Georgia. Only one of them owned a slave and they shared the work. But to say that these men fought for an aristocratic classes’ privledge is incorrect. It was a fight for blood and soil for my kin.

    And, I do rather worry about Yankees these days. They seem to be the only ones in town voting for the things that made them flee where they came from. We tend to resent the attitude that they know better than we do. Which is the point you bring up concerning our antebellum aristocrats if I’m not mistaken

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    • Replies: @iffen
    But to say that these men fought for an aristocratic classes’ privledge is incorrect. It was a fight for blood and soil for my kin.

    You do know that there was conscription beginning early in 1862. You do know that desertion was a contributing factor to military defeat.

    And yes, I am correct that the War was fought in an attempt to preserve the institution of slavery.

    We tend to resent the attitude that they know better than we do.

    Do you mean stuff like tax supported public education?

    Perhaps you are referring to the right of each citizen to vote.

  39. @Rurik
    um, I think that is pretty much what I just said..

    the civil war was the North putting their boot on the neck of the South, in much the same way the world wars were England and co. putting their boot on Germany's neck

    envy and gall unleashed

    Very good connection there. Germany was on the rise in the early 20th century, and I have read that the English figured we can either fight them now or later; better now when we have naval superiority. Unfortunate things turned out that way, in hindsight WW1 and WW2 were the beginning of the end for the west.

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  40. @iffen
    yankee progressives whine about if us bumpkin southerners go our way though?

    You don't have to worry about Yankees anymore. You need to worry about the authentic bumpkin southerners like me. Those Southron aristocrats that you pine for took the lives and body parts of my 3rd great grandfathers and left their wives and children to starve in an agrarian subsistence economy. Lucky for me they were strong women who survived and kept my 2nd great grandparents alive just to make sure that I am in this world to oppose the nonsense that you espouse, not to mention honoring those strong women by being a equity feminist.

    Look away and avert your gaze, you can't put the serfs back to work after they have left the farm.

    Oh please, things would have gotten terrible for the small farmers no matter what due to the importance of capital such as mechanization. Blaming the aristocracy is probably not the entire answer, and certainly supporting feminism which has come to largely ruin modern life isn’t helping the situation.

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    • Replies: @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF
    There was definitely a degradation of the aristocratic class in the 19th century, which had profound social implications. In the south we didn't have formal aristocracies of course, but there were landed families who exercised great influence. In the early days of Virginia this influence was used for extremely positive ends. The same could be said of what was going on in Europe; the reform minded Maria Theresa and her son Joseph II turned Austria's existing social order on its head. The nationalist revolutions of 1848 were the result. You are correct that mechanized agriculture likely would have ended slavery; there would be no need to cover the cost of the health and welfare of a person when there is a machine to do the same work. I would argue that this would have more gradually phased the institution out, and given southern (and greater American) society more time to deal with the social results. Unfortunately, that isn't how it worked out, and it seems we are still managing the fall-out.
    , @iffen
    Oh please, things would have gotten terrible for the small farmers no matter what due to the importance of capital such as mechanization. Blaming the aristocracy is probably not the entire answer ...

    Hmmm, I wonder what the main difference was between the South and the Mid-West. The South ends up with a class of share-cropping serfs while the North and Mid-West avoided that scenario? Must have been a different kind of mechanization? Maybe the weather?
  41. @Daniel Chieh
    I highly suggest Cuck Knight was an infiltrator trying to cause chaos. This makes no sense for even civic nationalists to punch right at the moment, when we're all trying to avoid getting hung separately.

    In case he isn't, someone please take him behind a shed and beat some sense into him. Thanks.

    You have to go back, you know.

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    Yes, yes, I know. But first I have to bash the cucks.
  42. @rw95
    You have to go back, you know.

    Yes, yes, I know. But first I have to bash the cucks.

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    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Once you (or your ancestors) have gone American, you can't go back.
  43. “’m sitting down when I hear one of them say, again, I am not sure who said it, but it was someone on the hill, but it was let the mob attack the “racists” and “hate groups” and if they come up the hill then we will defend ourselves. The “racists” and “hate groups” are just as bad as antifas. This isn’t our fight.”

    The above is cuckservatism to the core. If it weren’t so self-defeating, it would be hilarious.

    The line of thinking runs this way – In post-WW1 Germany, the Bolsheviks and Anarchists took top the streets violently. The decent people, the middle class and farmers, stayed home. The people who went to meet the Bolsheviks and Anarchists were the Nazis, the National Socialists. The Nazis ended up being a bot tougher than the German Bolsheviks and Anarchists, and they also seemed to frighten the middle class and farmers a bit less. So the Nazis eventually won. And Jews died. And the so the lesson to be applied to America is to be opposed to anybody that the Left calls a Nazi. and allow the Commies and Anarchists to ally and get rid of what they call the American fascists. And then we, real American patriots, can take control.

    They are far too brainwashed to realize that once the street thug Leftists and their backers in journalism and academia finish off all Southern nationalist and white nationalist opposition that they will turn, with unchecked fury, on the anti-Southern, anti-White Nationalists who see themselves as moderate and even conservative American patriots.

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  44. @Daniel Chieh
    Oh please, things would have gotten terrible for the small farmers no matter what due to the importance of capital such as mechanization. Blaming the aristocracy is probably not the entire answer, and certainly supporting feminism which has come to largely ruin modern life isn't helping the situation.

    There was definitely a degradation of the aristocratic class in the 19th century, which had profound social implications. In the south we didn’t have formal aristocracies of course, but there were landed families who exercised great influence. In the early days of Virginia this influence was used for extremely positive ends. The same could be said of what was going on in Europe; the reform minded Maria Theresa and her son Joseph II turned Austria’s existing social order on its head. The nationalist revolutions of 1848 were the result. You are correct that mechanized agriculture likely would have ended slavery; there would be no need to cover the cost of the health and welfare of a person when there is a machine to do the same work. I would argue that this would have more gradually phased the institution out, and given southern (and greater American) society more time to deal with the social results. Unfortunately, that isn’t how it worked out, and it seems we are still managing the fall-out.

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  45. @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF
    The origins of Southern Culture began in 1607 in Virginia, and developed quite differently from the northern colonies. I might suggest you do a bit of reading before breaking down over 400 years of history into an ill informed run on sentence. Start with The First Gentlemen of Virginia by Louis Wright and The First South by John Alden. That will get you up to 1782.

    Also read William R. Taylor’s Cavalier and Yankee and David Hackett Fischer’s Albion’s Seed, and Grady McWhiney’s Cracker Culture, as well as his earlier co-written book Attack and Die: Civil War Tactics and the Southern Heritage.

    The key for the differences between North and South is less due to the first settlers of each than to the later arriving Scots-Irish, who overwhelmingly headed to the Southern back country. Southern novels show the that notion very well, though the only book I know to emphasize it is How Celtic Culture Invented Southern Literature.

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    While monuments are coming down in NOLA, South Africa can’t manage to keep their chairs standing.

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  47. @anon
    we live in what is effectively a cult created by the media's dishonest shaping of reality over 50 years

    now we're at the point where actual reality is breaking through and forcibly reprograming people a lot of folks are going to act weird during their adjustment phase

    It began well before 50 years ago, but it did not turn into a steamroller until after WW2.

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    Seriously New Orleans statues would make more sense and be a better reflection of the state of their affairs if you they were of Ray Nagin, Edwin Edwards, Al Sharpton, Obama, The Clintons. I could think of few more cities that need statue changing too, like Baltimore and Detroit.

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  49. @JAMES CLAYTON HUFF
    I am genuinely sorry for your family's hardship. My great great grandfathers and uncles were all simple farmers themselves in Georgia. Only one of them owned a slave and they shared the work. But to say that these men fought for an aristocratic classes' privledge is incorrect. It was a fight for blood and soil for my kin.

    And, I do rather worry about Yankees these days. They seem to be the only ones in town voting for the things that made them flee where they came from. We tend to resent the attitude that they know better than we do. Which is the point you bring up concerning our antebellum aristocrats if I'm not mistaken

    But to say that these men fought for an aristocratic classes’ privledge is incorrect. It was a fight for blood and soil for my kin.

    You do know that there was conscription beginning early in 1862. You do know that desertion was a contributing factor to military defeat.

    And yes, I am correct that the War was fought in an attempt to preserve the institution of slavery.

    We tend to resent the attitude that they know better than we do.

    Do you mean stuff like tax supported public education?

    Perhaps you are referring to the right of each citizen to vote.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "And yes, I am correct that the War was fought in an attempt to preserve the institution of slavery."

    No it wasn't. My people didn't "fight" yours to keep slavery. Your evil empire made up a BS excuse to attack mine, burn our cities, and murder our people; we were defending ourselves. Your empire had a long history of conquest leading up to your country's attack on mine. Ever hear of the War of 1812, buddy? Yeah, that little war started when Yankee invaders attacked Canada and burned their parliament to the ground in their attempt to annex that country. And then afterward, your country spent decades ethnically cleansing American Indians from their lands....but since that doesn't fit your BS narrative, I guess we should forget about all of that.

    Neocon explains how to gin up a war: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfoaLbbAix0

    , @Anon
    "And yes, I am correct that the War was fought in an attempt to preserve the institution of slavery."

    The governments of the Southern States breaking away from the US union "to preserve the institution of slavery" is NOT the same thing as saying the American Civil War was fought by Northern states to eradicate slavery, which it most certainly was not. The Northern states attacked the Southern states for the same reason the Roman Empire might have attacked a break away province. Slavery was simply a convenient excuse. If that war was really fought over such a moral issue, then your people wouldn't have continued ethnically cleansing so many natives, during and after the war. It is preposterous to believe that one could have opposed one but yet supported the other using any kind of coherent moral system. The American Civil War was a war of conquest and subjugation.

    , @Bill

    Do you mean stuff like tax supported public education?

    Perhaps you are referring to the right of each citizen to vote.
     
    Those have worked out so well.
  50. @anon
    Antifa? What's the Antifa? Isn't just a renamed version of the old Jewish Defense League(JDL)

    You remember the JDF don't you? It was the organization that used to regularly beat up people it considered anti Semitic or anti Israel or who questioned the Holocaust figures. Its members often used baseball bats along with fists or other implements on either individuals or groups of people who attended events put on by the disfavored groups. No less a figure than JDL mentor Meyer Lansky once described how throwing enemies out of upper story windows had in the past proven to be a good technique for quieting political dissent (such as that coming from pre war America First supporters..)

    The mainstream media (MSM) didn't care when the JDL was just beating up people the JDL labeled as "Neo-Nazis or Holocaust doubters. In fact, the MSM often seemed to feel that the enemies of the JDL deserved a little beat up for daring to think that they actually had any First Amendment rights. Burning down people's houses was also fully approved by the JDL (and ignored by the media) especially in Canada.

    But then the JDL went a little bit too far and attempted to bomb Congressman Darrell Isssa's office. Issa, of Lebanese descent, though that the genocide then been perpetrated by Israel in Lebanon on his distant relatives was a little little bit too much and dared to complain.. This resulted in the intense ire of the JDL and the plans for the bombing. The plot was found out and resulted in the JDL being listed as a terrorist group. JDF founder and chief bomb plotter Irv Rubin being imprisoned for a long stretch despite unsuccessful pleas for a lesser sentence by some of the very same people who were later to successfully use their influence and money to free Jonathan Pollard.

    The Antifa is simply the new and improved version of the JDL. No more bombs, especially directed at members of Congress, ( that results in a little bit too much bad publicity). But still quite ready to use the baseball bats and fists along with the mace (their new weapon of choice).The Antifa already knows that its main money men control the media so, as was the case with the old JDL, they won't be getting too much bad media attention unless they do something really horrific that the media simply can't avoid covering.

    And when the Antifa wants the violence to increase exponentially and the sh-t to really hit the fan it won't get involved itself. Instead it only has to get in touch with the Black Lives Matter folks who will be more than willing to burn down a few houses and stores or maybe shoot a few more cops.

    The Antifa will wholeheartedly approve of all this just as long as the houses and Asian owned stores are in the ghetto or in working class white neighborhoods. It certainly won't approve if the burn-downs are in the expensive downtown areas or in expensive residential areas where there is a good chance that the buildings are owned by some of the very same money men who pay their wages and c0ntrol their organizations.

    The Jewish Defense League isn’t just old. The thugs may have been driven underground here, but this year the Canadian branch showed up in DC to heckle the anti-AIPAC demonstrators. After beating down a middle aged Palestinian-American who strayed too close, a few of them were arrested.

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    @iffen
    But to say that these men fought for an aristocratic classes’ privledge is incorrect. It was a fight for blood and soil for my kin.

    You do know that there was conscription beginning early in 1862. You do know that desertion was a contributing factor to military defeat.

    And yes, I am correct that the War was fought in an attempt to preserve the institution of slavery.

    We tend to resent the attitude that they know better than we do.

    Do you mean stuff like tax supported public education?

    Perhaps you are referring to the right of each citizen to vote.

    “And yes, I am correct that the War was fought in an attempt to preserve the institution of slavery.”

    No it wasn’t. My people didn’t “fight” yours to keep slavery. Your evil empire made up a BS excuse to attack mine, burn our cities, and murder our people; we were defending ourselves. Your empire had a long history of conquest leading up to your country’s attack on mine. Ever hear of the War of 1812, buddy? Yeah, that little war started when Yankee invaders attacked Canada and burned their parliament to the ground in their attempt to annex that country. And then afterward, your country spent decades ethnically cleansing American Indians from their lands….but since that doesn’t fit your BS narrative, I guess we should forget about all of that.

    Neocon explains how to gin up a war: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfoaLbbAix0

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    The War of 1812 was a war of Southern and Western expansionism, opposed by New England interests. This was despite the fact that impressment of sailors on the high sea was the ostensible causus belli. The Southern planters had real power at that time, the Northeast was just beginning to develop into the colossus it would later be.
  52. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    “Perhaps you are referring to the right of each citizen to vote.”

    Please, like you invented the latter. Come down off your horse. This is why people overseas despise Americans. 1. Thomas Jefferson, a Southerner, wrote your Declaration of Independence 2. Funny that you would bring that up considering that women weren’t allow to vote at the time of the American Civil War (while your people were also murdering scores of natives, too) 3. That 3/5′s clause in the US Constitution? Yeah, that was put in by Northern States who didn’t consider blacks to be people.

    “Do you mean stuff like tax supported public education?”

    I think that’s universally supported, despite what you read on Salon and watch on MSNBC.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Women weren't allowed to vote in any countries in the world in the 1860s. Nor were most men except in the USA Switzerland and France. Prussia did not end serfdom until 1874 or so.

    Mali and Saudi Arabia didn't end slavery until 1960. Google slave auctions Libya African refugees for the slave trade today.
  53. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @iffen
    But to say that these men fought for an aristocratic classes’ privledge is incorrect. It was a fight for blood and soil for my kin.

    You do know that there was conscription beginning early in 1862. You do know that desertion was a contributing factor to military defeat.

    And yes, I am correct that the War was fought in an attempt to preserve the institution of slavery.

    We tend to resent the attitude that they know better than we do.

    Do you mean stuff like tax supported public education?

    Perhaps you are referring to the right of each citizen to vote.

    “And yes, I am correct that the War was fought in an attempt to preserve the institution of slavery.”

    The governments of the Southern States breaking away from the US union “to preserve the institution of slavery” is NOT the same thing as saying the American Civil War was fought by Northern states to eradicate slavery, which it most certainly was not. The Northern states attacked the Southern states for the same reason the Roman Empire might have attacked a break away province. Slavery was simply a convenient excuse. If that war was really fought over such a moral issue, then your people wouldn’t have continued ethnically cleansing so many natives, during and after the war. It is preposterous to believe that one could have opposed one but yet supported the other using any kind of coherent moral system. The American Civil War was a war of conquest and subjugation.

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    @rw95
    Exactly. Unless you were part of the southern aristocracy, life in the old south was absolutely wretched, whether you were black or white. (Hell it was probably WORSE for whites.)

    Honestly, if these "southern nationalists" really want to break away from the union, I say let them. Their neo-confederate government will be a shithole in no time flat, and that's WITHOUT negroes taken into account.

    “Honestly, if these “southern nationalists” really want to break away from the union, I say let them. Their neo-confederate government will be a shithole in no time flat, and that’s WITHOUT negroes taken into account.”

    Louisiana has a GDP larger than Portugal’s. We’ll be fine, even with “negroes” taken into account you racist a**

    P.S. you don’t really think black people would stay in the South, do you? Nope. They’ll be coming to your white-bred communities. Ironically, if there is ever a second civil war, it will be fought by guys like you to keep blacks out of your children’s school and neighborhood. The excuse for that next war will be to end the oppression of Confederate monuments (while simultaneously murdering huge scores of foreigners in drone strikes…but you guys will probably just ignore that little moral inconsistency just as you did with your treatment of Native Americans: “Git of my land Injun heathens! Die slavery-supporting Confederates because slavery is bad – but not land theft and genocide, apparently!”).

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  55. This “battle” proves what I’ve always suspected which is that “good whites”, who will include many anti-racist alt lighters and “race doesn’t matter” conservative types will try to play Switzerland or join the Antifa scumbags in attacking whites who don’t hate themselves. To them, there is no such thing as too much virtue signaling. They think boasting about their Jewish in- laws or half Cherokee niece will make the antifa crowd misty eyed.

    If and when civil war comes about 30-40% of our fellow whites, possibly more, will join the enemy and therefore become the enemy. They are multicultural fundamentalists. No other race is afflicted with this many race traitors in its own ranks.

    It is time for American and European whites to completely clean out their Augean stables and start anew.

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    If and when civil war comes about 30-40% of our fellow whites, possibly more, will join the enemy and therefore become the enemy.
     
    Which is why it was always going to be the anti-whites who start it and the level of anti-white animus needed to start it would mean eurowhite anti-whites wouldn't be allowed to help the other side. This is already starting as white "allies" get turned on due to the media incitement to attack white people being ramped up day by day.

    SJWs are too brain washed to be on their own side but they won't be allowed to help the other side either so i think most of them will end up neutral and irrelevant.

    #

    there's photos of cuckknight as a "neo-nazi" skinhead when he was younger so it's possible he's been a police plant for years or it's possible he's just messed up or both - the guy on the bike looked like he could be a handler but whatever - police plant or not there'll be genuine messed up people who will act like him - best just to be aware that a mass of people being forced out of their brain washing by reality is gonna generate a lot of weirdness.
  56. Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.

    Weimar = Tragedy
    Weimerica = Farce

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  57. @Daniel Chieh
    Oh please, things would have gotten terrible for the small farmers no matter what due to the importance of capital such as mechanization. Blaming the aristocracy is probably not the entire answer, and certainly supporting feminism which has come to largely ruin modern life isn't helping the situation.

    Oh please, things would have gotten terrible for the small farmers no matter what due to the importance of capital such as mechanization. Blaming the aristocracy is probably not the entire answer …

    Hmmm, I wonder what the main difference was between the South and the Mid-West. The South ends up with a class of share-cropping serfs while the North and Mid-West avoided that scenario? Must have been a different kind of mechanization? Maybe the weather?

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    I wonder what the main difference was between the South and the Mid-West.
     
    sugar was always a slave crop - until mechanization it was too labor intensive for anything but slave labor

    so slavery and the slavers followed a path west over many centuries: ethiopia 3000 years ago through ancient egypt, cyprus, sicily, southern spain and eventually to the atlantic islands, caribbean, central america and some southern US states.

    slavery followed sugar - kinda appropriate given how poisonous sugar is - and retarded economic development wherever it became dominant so yes the big difference in the south was the climate was partly within and partly too close to a slave labor region but eventually technology would have ended it.
  58. Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce. Weimar was tragedy. Weimerica is farce.

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  59. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @iffen
    You have no religion. You have no ethnicity. You have no cohesion.

    Your base that you wish to create from has been evolving into hyper individualism for centuries.

    High ability individuals don’t need religion or ethnicity and thrive in the competitive capitalist environment; they don’t need a “group.”

    You are trying to sign up high ability individuals who have had the noblesse oblige bred out of them.

    if what you are saying was true why the pozzed media wouldn’t use “greater good” arguments to manipulate us

    universalist morality is a product of hyper-individualism

    there’s a sociopathic dog-eat-dog individualism as well but if it was the majority drive then the media would be using that to manipulate us and not manipulated morality.

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    @KenH
    This "battle" proves what I've always suspected which is that "good whites", who will include many anti-racist alt lighters and "race doesn't matter" conservative types will try to play Switzerland or join the Antifa scumbags in attacking whites who don't hate themselves. To them, there is no such thing as too much virtue signaling. They think boasting about their Jewish in- laws or half Cherokee niece will make the antifa crowd misty eyed.

    If and when civil war comes about 30-40% of our fellow whites, possibly more, will join the enemy and therefore become the enemy. They are multicultural fundamentalists. No other race is afflicted with this many race traitors in its own ranks.

    It is time for American and European whites to completely clean out their Augean stables and start anew.

    If and when civil war comes about 30-40% of our fellow whites, possibly more, will join the enemy and therefore become the enemy.

    Which is why it was always going to be the anti-whites who start it and the level of anti-white animus needed to start it would mean eurowhite anti-whites wouldn’t be allowed to help the other side. This is already starting as white “allies” get turned on due to the media incitement to attack white people being ramped up day by day.

    SJWs are too brain washed to be on their own side but they won’t be allowed to help the other side either so i think most of them will end up neutral and irrelevant.

    #

    there’s photos of cuckknight as a “neo-nazi” skinhead when he was younger so it’s possible he’s been a police plant for years or it’s possible he’s just messed up or both – the guy on the bike looked like he could be a handler but whatever – police plant or not there’ll be genuine messed up people who will act like him – best just to be aware that a mass of people being forced out of their brain washing by reality is gonna generate a lot of weirdness.

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    @iffen
    Oh please, things would have gotten terrible for the small farmers no matter what due to the importance of capital such as mechanization. Blaming the aristocracy is probably not the entire answer ...

    Hmmm, I wonder what the main difference was between the South and the Mid-West. The South ends up with a class of share-cropping serfs while the North and Mid-West avoided that scenario? Must have been a different kind of mechanization? Maybe the weather?

    I wonder what the main difference was between the South and the Mid-West.

    sugar was always a slave crop – until mechanization it was too labor intensive for anything but slave labor

    so slavery and the slavers followed a path west over many centuries: ethiopia 3000 years ago through ancient egypt, cyprus, sicily, southern spain and eventually to the atlantic islands, caribbean, central america and some southern US states.

    slavery followed sugar – kinda appropriate given how poisonous sugar is – and retarded economic development wherever it became dominant so yes the big difference in the south was the climate was partly within and partly too close to a slave labor region but eventually technology would have ended it.

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  62. @Colleen Pater
    I have an ethnicity, both meta and micro.
    I had to admit despite until fairly recently not resenting my catholic upbringing I didnt really believe it and was more a cultural catholic. Since then I have come to see all christianity is fundamentally cucked and irational and as emotionally attached as i may be to it as part of our cultural heritage its a toxic ideology that must be put in a glass box in a museum. The short explanation is it served us when its altruism accrued to us, when it was more rational than society at large, thats no longer true.
    I agree we have evolved individualism and I think that leads to democratic tendencies, also we have evolved high trust which led to altruism and multiculturalism and empire, also I think we evolved high status for women similarly run amuck. I agree these are a problem now and must have served us then. I think we need to face ourselves before we redesign a new civilization. we may have to compromise or think outside our current dynamics to find a new way we cant ignore our own HBD while insisting blacks etc cant escape theirs. I think you have already anticipated some of what we may find. Capitalism/socialism as we understand it may need rethinking. Before you get triggered Im for as hard core cap as possible but i think for instance we will find we will genetically insist on some safety net but that could be private insurance.
    cogelites do think they dont need anyone i was probably only 13 when my father had to quote Donne no man is an island to me. The thing is as much as I really believe that its not true and I am one of those people that actually builds his own house airplane boats computers etcI have always been a natural leader of men and independent thinker. But I have realized Obama was right that say Musk didnt build that. The great men like say Musk do great things but they do it within the infrastructure of a nation, cogelites can not actually survive alone and average people can not survive without cog elites. a people are an organism a nation should be a people not because muh furer, because thats just what we are . it would take too long to support but lets just say space x is not based in johannesburg for a reason.
    Some would say noblesse oblige is the problem you know. These high ability peeps you say care not for the white yeoman that as often as not were his parents, seems to care way too much about the camel jockeys,sodomites, sub saharans etc I think its more likely like all of us euros they evolved high trust and altruism but it is currently being triggered in favor of the wrong volk.Capitalism rewards them but deeper is the need for the reward status.cog elites crave status like everyone else they simply have their own little lord of the flies hierarchy. So we are back to religion, but it neednt be christianity or crypto christianity leftism, it simply needs to be a healthy authority.

    they evolved high trust and altruism but it is currently being triggered in favor of the wrong volk.

    There is no volk for them. They are the anti-volk. What is being triggered is their intent to separate from whites, such as yourself, who want a pan-white volk. They view whites who cling to religious, ethnic, racial or national differences as primitives and as the out-group to themselves. They tolerate volkishness in non-whites as their (non-whites) defense against the dominant whites of the past.

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    its been an evolution in thought that I lived through, which has had some epijewnetic influence along the way.white leftism was until very recently and even now mostly non morbid to whites do goodism, Jew leftism has always been anti white, which until recently they had to be somewhat careful about.whispering in the blacks ear, and among themselves, dressing it up in anti male anti straight rhetoric.
    Pan whitism yeah I suppose thats what it comes down to at this point, Its really unlikely but its the only option we survive at all. But its not whites who loved their cultures and its people that first opted for pan whiteness, the left couldnt have gotten 6 feet if we were like that. WN for all of us that were not skinheads in the 70s is simply a response to greater and more explicit violence againt whites their nations and cultures. Its now clear Jews will nevcer assimilate or stop warking against whites, blacks and hispanics are genetically unable to ever compete in a capitalist meritocracy with whites and will forever be a burden we can not afford and will never be thanked for. Asians are no more assimilable than jews and will use whatever advantage they can to games our open cultures. In short multiculturalism is morbid to whites, whether goodwhites realize it or not. Only war will save us. Ideally then we can go back to normal relations with all peoples as interesting foreigners we trade goods and ideas with but who can not become citizens in our nations any more than we can become citizens in theirs.
  63. @Rurik

    They peddle this anti-Muslim stuff and push it so far into your brain that you’ll obviously strongly support Israel as an outpost of “the Wes” surrounded by Mahometans,
     
    it's not 'they', it's you

    most thoughtful people are sympathetic to the Muslims who're under siege by the Zio-Fiend

    many people know that it wasn't Muslims, but Zionists who did 9/11, and who are causing all the wars

    so there is deep sympathy for the Muslim cause and their millions of victims of Zionist bloodlust.

    but then what happens is some arrogant Muslim asshole will try to sanctimoniously lecture the people of the West, and call our women whores, and be as insulting and over-the-top obnoxious as they can, until you start to actually feel sympathy for anyone who has to deal with Muslims like this.

    Perhaps you're paid by Israel to create sympathy for their cause by bolstering the impression that all Muslims are like you, eh?

    American women: not whores

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  64. @iffen
    But to say that these men fought for an aristocratic classes’ privledge is incorrect. It was a fight for blood and soil for my kin.

    You do know that there was conscription beginning early in 1862. You do know that desertion was a contributing factor to military defeat.

    And yes, I am correct that the War was fought in an attempt to preserve the institution of slavery.

    We tend to resent the attitude that they know better than we do.

    Do you mean stuff like tax supported public education?

    Perhaps you are referring to the right of each citizen to vote.

    Do you mean stuff like tax supported public education?

    Perhaps you are referring to the right of each citizen to vote.

    Those have worked out so well.

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    Education yes.

    I'll give you universal suffrage since liberal democracy is in failure mode.

  65. @Bill

    Do you mean stuff like tax supported public education?

    Perhaps you are referring to the right of each citizen to vote.
     
    Those have worked out so well.

    Education yes.

    I’ll give you universal suffrage since liberal democracy is in failure mode.

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    There are good people on both sides.

    But in the final analysis these battles are between good Americans and those Americans and various kinds of aliens who wish to destroy American traditions, besmirch all of American history and in the end wipe out America itself.

    These destroyers hate America and American culture and do not have one iota of patriotism.

    It’s not about statues. These are just symbols. It’s about good Americans versus the hate-America crowd.

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  67. @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    The Battle of New Orleans???


    In my country, the word for that up there is grootheidswaan.



    Let's call it what it is. The lowest element of white American who has nothing to hold on but that fantasies about a glorious past and their superiority/persecution complexwas having a tantrum because the majority of the United States finds their "heritage" and history repugnant and as something to be remembered only as something bad, so what they're doing is erasing that history....


    What's funny is that anyone is surprised that these altright groups are kosher enough to form a minyan.


    I know all the insecure trolls on these comments are very concerned about maintaining their alcoholism or a woman's "right" to show off like a prostitufe to the world are going to scream about this, but the entire Islamophobia industry — Breitbart and Jihadwatch and r/the_Donalf and the entirety of the edgy new right aside from trolls on the federal payroll like the Daily Stormer are Zionist in origin.


    They peddle this anti-Muslim stuff and push it so far into your brain that you'll obviously strongly support Israel as an outpost of "the Wes" surrounded by Mahometans, and if yo don't then your pastor will remind you and if you see through the BS you'll be called an anti-Semite and your business will be ineligible for state and federal contracts if you decide to boycott a foreign state.


    They also push it so you don't feel so uncomfortable with your military attacking Muslim countries, weakening and dividing Muslim countries and neutralizing threats to America's "greatest ally."


    Your enemy ain't the Muslims or the black people who shockingly don't want the people who held them in bondage honored, your enemy is the enlightenment and the philosophical and sociocultural underpinnings of the western world for the last four centuries.

    Salaam bro.

    Your posts are fresh air, mashaAllah. I’d like to invite you to checkout thephora.net. It is – like here – mostly islamophobes and racists but there are a handful of muslims such as myself that try to have a dialogue with these people. They are angry for many reasons, some legit others not. Hope you consider, peace brohammer.

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  68. @Rurik

    They peddle this anti-Muslim stuff and push it so far into your brain that you’ll obviously strongly support Israel as an outpost of “the Wes” surrounded by Mahometans,
     
    it's not 'they', it's you

    most thoughtful people are sympathetic to the Muslims who're under siege by the Zio-Fiend

    many people know that it wasn't Muslims, but Zionists who did 9/11, and who are causing all the wars

    so there is deep sympathy for the Muslim cause and their millions of victims of Zionist bloodlust.

    but then what happens is some arrogant Muslim asshole will try to sanctimoniously lecture the people of the West, and call our women whores, and be as insulting and over-the-top obnoxious as they can, until you start to actually feel sympathy for anyone who has to deal with Muslims like this.

    Perhaps you're paid by Israel to create sympathy for their cause by bolstering the impression that all Muslims are like you, eh?

    Thank You Kindly.

    But Muslims don’t need sympathy. Everything is going according to the divine plan, there are no flaws in the decree of Allah.

    And if some disqus comments or youtube snippets from Muslims rub you in such the wrong way that you sympathize with zionist banksters then you can see you are not even a good friend to yourself, much less anyone else.

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    Thank You Kindly.

    But Muslims don’t need sympathy. Everything is going according to the divine plan,...
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-PRoVfJ4XY

    ...there are no flaws in the decree of Allah.

     

    Since 9/11, how many millions of Muslims have been slaughtered or displaced or come home to see their homes and loved ones blown to bits, and see pieces of them dangling on the ruins that used to be their homes?

    Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria and Yemen and soon to be Iran, are reeling from the Zio-fiend, and you say everything is going according to the divine plan? Don't you mean the Old Testament? Because the horrors being heaped upon the Islamic world are coming straight out of the id of Jehovah; the vengeful god of (Jewish) wrath.

    But what I've found to be remarkable, is how so many Muslims are thrilled to death over what's happening in the world, because of the liberalism of the dying (murdered) West, that allows them to rape ten year old boys in Austria, and then have the Austrian authorities apologize to the Muslim rapist for inconveniencing him, rather than having him dance on the end of a rope, which any healthy and sane society would do.

    So because of the disease that's afflicting the West, that is causing them to 'invade and invite', these "Muslims" are perfectly happy and contented to see the homelands of their people invaded and despoiled and ravaged beyond all recognition, so long as they can come get some freebies by the Canadians or Germans and perhaps a chance to get some Western pussy, either willingly or otherwise, huh?

    So this is the id of Islam that I'm seeing from a lot of the Islamic commenters here. There was the Doormat who called anyone in the West a "racist" if they didn't like the invasion. There are others who're insulting to their gracious hosts in the West because we are more freedom-loving than these Islamists, who don't respect our ways, our culture or our people. But so long as the gates are open, they're thrilled at what is being wrought in the world today, because they're perfectly willing to see their own nations destroyed, and their people humiliated and murdered, so long as they can get at some of that Western pussy and freebies and 'Disney Land' materialism that they denigrate so sanctimoniously.

    Isn't that right Abdi?
  69. @anon
    Antifa? What's the Antifa? Isn't just a renamed version of the old Jewish Defense League(JDL)

    You remember the JDF don't you? It was the organization that used to regularly beat up people it considered anti Semitic or anti Israel or who questioned the Holocaust figures. Its members often used baseball bats along with fists or other implements on either individuals or groups of people who attended events put on by the disfavored groups. No less a figure than JDL mentor Meyer Lansky once described how throwing enemies out of upper story windows had in the past proven to be a good technique for quieting political dissent (such as that coming from pre war America First supporters..)

    The mainstream media (MSM) didn't care when the JDL was just beating up people the JDL labeled as "Neo-Nazis or Holocaust doubters. In fact, the MSM often seemed to feel that the enemies of the JDL deserved a little beat up for daring to think that they actually had any First Amendment rights. Burning down people's houses was also fully approved by the JDL (and ignored by the media) especially in Canada.

    But then the JDL went a little bit too far and attempted to bomb Congressman Darrell Isssa's office. Issa, of Lebanese descent, though that the genocide then been perpetrated by Israel in Lebanon on his distant relatives was a little little bit too much and dared to complain.. This resulted in the intense ire of the JDL and the plans for the bombing. The plot was found out and resulted in the JDL being listed as a terrorist group. JDF founder and chief bomb plotter Irv Rubin being imprisoned for a long stretch despite unsuccessful pleas for a lesser sentence by some of the very same people who were later to successfully use their influence and money to free Jonathan Pollard.

    The Antifa is simply the new and improved version of the JDL. No more bombs, especially directed at members of Congress, ( that results in a little bit too much bad publicity). But still quite ready to use the baseball bats and fists along with the mace (their new weapon of choice).The Antifa already knows that its main money men control the media so, as was the case with the old JDL, they won't be getting too much bad media attention unless they do something really horrific that the media simply can't avoid covering.

    And when the Antifa wants the violence to increase exponentially and the sh-t to really hit the fan it won't get involved itself. Instead it only has to get in touch with the Black Lives Matter folks who will be more than willing to burn down a few houses and stores or maybe shoot a few more cops.

    The Antifa will wholeheartedly approve of all this just as long as the houses and Asian owned stores are in the ghetto or in working class white neighborhoods. It certainly won't approve if the burn-downs are in the expensive downtown areas or in expensive residential areas where there is a good chance that the buildings are owned by some of the very same money men who pay their wages and c0ntrol their organizations.

    “…JDL mentor Meyer Lansky…

    Do you meen Meier Kahane or do you really mean Meyer Lansky?

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  70. @Daniel Chieh
    Yes, yes, I know. But first I have to bash the cucks.

    Once you (or your ancestors) have gone American, you can’t go back.

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  71. @Anon
    "And yes, I am correct that the War was fought in an attempt to preserve the institution of slavery."

    No it wasn't. My people didn't "fight" yours to keep slavery. Your evil empire made up a BS excuse to attack mine, burn our cities, and murder our people; we were defending ourselves. Your empire had a long history of conquest leading up to your country's attack on mine. Ever hear of the War of 1812, buddy? Yeah, that little war started when Yankee invaders attacked Canada and burned their parliament to the ground in their attempt to annex that country. And then afterward, your country spent decades ethnically cleansing American Indians from their lands....but since that doesn't fit your BS narrative, I guess we should forget about all of that.

    Neocon explains how to gin up a war: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfoaLbbAix0

    The War of 1812 was a war of Southern and Western expansionism, opposed by New England interests. This was despite the fact that impressment of sailors on the high sea was the ostensible causus belli. The Southern planters had real power at that time, the Northeast was just beginning to develop into the colossus it would later be.

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  72. @iffen
    Education yes.

    I'll give you universal suffrage since liberal democracy is in failure mode.

    Education, hell yes. Public education, hell no.

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  73. @Abdī
    Thank You Kindly.

    But Muslims don't need sympathy. Everything is going according to the divine plan, there are no flaws in the decree of Allah.

    And if some disqus comments or youtube snippets from Muslims rub you in such the wrong way that you sympathize with zionist banksters then you can see you are not even a good friend to yourself, much less anyone else.

    Thank You Kindly.

    But Muslims don’t need sympathy. Everything is going according to the divine plan,…

    …there are no flaws in the decree of Allah.

    Since 9/11, how many millions of Muslims have been slaughtered or displaced or come home to see their homes and loved ones blown to bits, and see pieces of them dangling on the ruins that used to be their homes?

    Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria and Yemen and soon to be Iran, are reeling from the Zio-fiend, and you say everything is going according to the divine plan? Don’t you mean the Old Testament? Because the horrors being heaped upon the Islamic world are coming straight out of the id of Jehovah; the vengeful god of (Jewish) wrath.

    But what I’ve found to be remarkable, is how so many Muslims are thrilled to death over what’s happening in the world, because of the liberalism of the dying (murdered) West, that allows them to rape ten year old boys in Austria, and then have the Austrian authorities apologize to the Muslim rapist for inconveniencing him, rather than having him dance on the end of a rope, which any healthy and sane society would do.

    So because of the disease that’s afflicting the West, that is causing them to ‘invade and invite’, these “Muslims” are perfectly happy and contented to see the homelands of their people invaded and despoiled and ravaged beyond all recognition, so long as they can come get some freebies by the Canadians or Germans and perhaps a chance to get some Western pussy, either willingly or otherwise, huh?

    So this is the id of Islam that I’m seeing from a lot of the Islamic commenters here. There was the Doormat who called anyone in the West a “racist” if they didn’t like the invasion. There are others who’re insulting to their gracious hosts in the West because we are more freedom-loving than these Islamists, who don’t respect our ways, our culture or our people. But so long as the gates are open, they’re thrilled at what is being wrought in the world today, because they’re perfectly willing to see their own nations destroyed, and their people humiliated and murdered, so long as they can get at some of that Western pussy and freebies and ‘Disney Land’ materialism that they denigrate so sanctimoniously.

    Isn’t that right Abdi?

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    https://youtu.be/hc7BjpLm0bc

    Death is the same whether from barrel bomb or AIDS. Whether from drone or drunk driver. Whether from landmine or drug overdose. Whether from sniper or emo suicide.

    As for Muslims in Europe that commit sexual crimes they should be punished harshly, we have some good laws for that. But if the muslim communities in Europe applied those punishments on their own people you'd be crowing about "Sharia zones" instead of crowing about leniency. Because well, crows crow.

  74. @Rurik

    Thank You Kindly.

    But Muslims don’t need sympathy. Everything is going according to the divine plan,...
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-PRoVfJ4XY

    ...there are no flaws in the decree of Allah.

     

    Since 9/11, how many millions of Muslims have been slaughtered or displaced or come home to see their homes and loved ones blown to bits, and see pieces of them dangling on the ruins that used to be their homes?

    Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria and Yemen and soon to be Iran, are reeling from the Zio-fiend, and you say everything is going according to the divine plan? Don't you mean the Old Testament? Because the horrors being heaped upon the Islamic world are coming straight out of the id of Jehovah; the vengeful god of (Jewish) wrath.

    But what I've found to be remarkable, is how so many Muslims are thrilled to death over what's happening in the world, because of the liberalism of the dying (murdered) West, that allows them to rape ten year old boys in Austria, and then have the Austrian authorities apologize to the Muslim rapist for inconveniencing him, rather than having him dance on the end of a rope, which any healthy and sane society would do.

    So because of the disease that's afflicting the West, that is causing them to 'invade and invite', these "Muslims" are perfectly happy and contented to see the homelands of their people invaded and despoiled and ravaged beyond all recognition, so long as they can come get some freebies by the Canadians or Germans and perhaps a chance to get some Western pussy, either willingly or otherwise, huh?

    So this is the id of Islam that I'm seeing from a lot of the Islamic commenters here. There was the Doormat who called anyone in the West a "racist" if they didn't like the invasion. There are others who're insulting to their gracious hosts in the West because we are more freedom-loving than these Islamists, who don't respect our ways, our culture or our people. But so long as the gates are open, they're thrilled at what is being wrought in the world today, because they're perfectly willing to see their own nations destroyed, and their people humiliated and murdered, so long as they can get at some of that Western pussy and freebies and 'Disney Land' materialism that they denigrate so sanctimoniously.

    Isn't that right Abdi?

    Death is the same whether from barrel bomb or AIDS. Whether from drone or drunk driver. Whether from landmine or drug overdose. Whether from sniper or emo suicide.

    As for Muslims in Europe that commit sexual crimes they should be punished harshly, we have some good laws for that. But if the muslim communities in Europe applied those punishments on their own people you’d be crowing about “Sharia zones” instead of crowing about leniency. Because well, crows crow.

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  75. your video is bizarre Abdi,

    it seems to glory in what’s happening to Syria because the horrors are making the people more religious, no?

    as if the people of Syria deserve what’s happening to them!

    bizarre

    but I get that you’re religious, and I respect that. I also respect that you believe Muslims (and presumably everyone else) who rapes should see Allah and but soon. I agree, but there’s something you should try at least to understand, and that is that things like Sharia law / and the West, are fundamentally incompatible. The very idea of ‘submission’ is anathema to Westerners, especially Western men. We are independently motivated and we rule our own passions from the inside. At least when we’re at our best. Not that we’re not spiritual and often religious, but we’re not in the habit of prostrating ourselves, and have no intention of changing. We like being the way we are. We respect your right to live according to your wonts and proclivities in Muslim lands, but we also insist that you respect our rights to our sovereign lands and ways and culture. Are we perfect? heck no! And right now the West is under a demonic thrall.

    https://scottydtm.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/theoden-sick.jpg

    But we don’t need to have Islam imposed on us to mend our ways, and if that ever happens, like it did in Kosovo for instance, there will be blood in the streets. I know I don’t want to see that, and I’d hope that you feel the same way.

    I’m glad you’re here to enlighten us with your perspective, we have too few Muslim perspectives, and some of them are scholarly, thought-provoking, insightful and downright sublime, . Some not so much. But I feel that all perspectives are invaluable even if we don’t always agree, at least it helps to learn and see things from a different view point.

    As-salāmu ʿalaykum

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    as if the people of Syria deserve what’s happening to them!

    Macro: human beings ipso facto deserve absolutely nothing from God, not even a moment of sunlight or a halfbreath of clean air. Nevertheless God gives in abundant excess from sheer mercy and grace to mankind and the very second God takes away most people go nuts.

    Micro: Yes, they did. The wicked of Syria earned it as a punishment and the righteous earned it as a trial.

    The very idea of ‘submission’ is anathema to Westerners, especially Western men. We are independently motivated and we rule our own passions from the inside. At least when we’re at our best. Not that we’re not spiritual and often religious, but we’re not in the habit of prostrating ourselves, and have no intention of changing.

    Well when you say "westerners" perhaps you should specify Europeans or northwesterners. The southern coast of the Mediterranean is just as westerly as Europe and is just a tad Islamic.

    Everyone is already submitted to God, the laws of physics are part of the Shariah. The choice is in embracing or rebelling - not submitting to God. And there is literally no compulsion in Islam, the fact that there are considerable non-muslim populations that reside(d) in muslim administered areas attests to this. In the current era there has been the equivalent of "white flight" from muslim countries by christians and jews but today that is changing. For instance Morocco is the #1 retirement destination of French that expatriate... hundred thousand plus I believe. Throughout the Islamic world there are EuroChristian pensioners, workers, and holidayers. Also guestworkers from poor christian countries.

    We like being the way we are. We respect your right to live according to your wonts and proclivities in Muslim lands, but we also insist that you respect our rights to our sovereign lands and ways and culture. Are we perfect? heck no! And right now the West is under a demonic thrall.

    My parents country was conquered by France and was literally part of France for 132 years. My family worked for France first in my old country and then in France for over a century. It is quite presumptuous to suggest that those who speak the language, work, and have history of European countries are now to be subjected to religious inquisition. Secularism means secularism, it is not a velvet glove for the ancien religion.

    Glad to be here, interesting articles. Peace be with you and your household.

  76. @Anon
    "Perhaps you are referring to the right of each citizen to vote."

    Please, like you invented the latter. Come down off your horse. This is why people overseas despise Americans. 1. Thomas Jefferson, a Southerner, wrote your Declaration of Independence 2. Funny that you would bring that up considering that women weren't allow to vote at the time of the American Civil War (while your people were also murdering scores of natives, too) 3. That 3/5's clause in the US Constitution? Yeah, that was put in by Northern States who didn't consider blacks to be people.

    "Do you mean stuff like tax supported public education?"

    I think that's universally supported, despite what you read on Salon and watch on MSNBC.

    Women weren’t allowed to vote in any countries in the world in the 1860s. Nor were most men except in the USA Switzerland and France. Prussia did not end serfdom until 1874 or so.

    Mali and Saudi Arabia didn’t end slavery until 1960. Google slave auctions Libya African refugees for the slave trade today.

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  77. @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    The Battle of New Orleans???


    In my country, the word for that up there is grootheidswaan.



    Let's call it what it is. The lowest element of white American who has nothing to hold on but that fantasies about a glorious past and their superiority/persecution complexwas having a tantrum because the majority of the United States finds their "heritage" and history repugnant and as something to be remembered only as something bad, so what they're doing is erasing that history....


    What's funny is that anyone is surprised that these altright groups are kosher enough to form a minyan.


    I know all the insecure trolls on these comments are very concerned about maintaining their alcoholism or a woman's "right" to show off like a prostitufe to the world are going to scream about this, but the entire Islamophobia industry — Breitbart and Jihadwatch and r/the_Donalf and the entirety of the edgy new right aside from trolls on the federal payroll like the Daily Stormer are Zionist in origin.


    They peddle this anti-Muslim stuff and push it so far into your brain that you'll obviously strongly support Israel as an outpost of "the Wes" surrounded by Mahometans, and if yo don't then your pastor will remind you and if you see through the BS you'll be called an anti-Semite and your business will be ineligible for state and federal contracts if you decide to boycott a foreign state.


    They also push it so you don't feel so uncomfortable with your military attacking Muslim countries, weakening and dividing Muslim countries and neutralizing threats to America's "greatest ally."


    Your enemy ain't the Muslims or the black people who shockingly don't want the people who held them in bondage honored, your enemy is the enlightenment and the philosophical and sociocultural underpinnings of the western world for the last four centuries.

    “Ami, si tu tombes un ami sort de l’ombre à ta place.”

    TWMT,

    It heals the breast to come across a brother like you, out of the (digital) shadows. And MM was right to trace the rot of “da wes” back to the enlightenment but we know Moldbug has feet of clay. The true rot is the triune shellgame god aka trinity as you know. By pure logic we arrive at The Unmoved Mover, by pure scripture we arrive at الله. The symphony is in perfect harmony and those enjoying it are thought crazy by the deaf, dumb, and blind.

    http://www.unz.com/freed/the-place-of-christianity-in-history/#comment-1870366

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  78. @Rurik
    your video is bizarre Abdi,

    it seems to glory in what's happening to Syria because the horrors are making the people more religious, no?

    as if the people of Syria deserve what's happening to them!

    bizarre

    but I get that you're religious, and I respect that. I also respect that you believe Muslims (and presumably everyone else) who rapes should see Allah and but soon. I agree, but there's something you should try at least to understand, and that is that things like Sharia law / and the West, are fundamentally incompatible. The very idea of 'submission' is anathema to Westerners, especially Western men. We are independently motivated and we rule our own passions from the inside. At least when we're at our best. Not that we're not spiritual and often religious, but we're not in the habit of prostrating ourselves, and have no intention of changing. We like being the way we are. We respect your right to live according to your wonts and proclivities in Muslim lands, but we also insist that you respect our rights to our sovereign lands and ways and culture. Are we perfect? heck no! And right now the West is under a demonic thrall.

    https://scottydtm.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/theoden-sick.jpg

    But we don't need to have Islam imposed on us to mend our ways, and if that ever happens, like it did in Kosovo for instance, there will be blood in the streets. I know I don't want to see that, and I'd hope that you feel the same way.

    I'm glad you're here to enlighten us with your perspective, we have too few Muslim perspectives, and some of them are scholarly, thought-provoking, insightful and downright sublime, . Some not so much. But I feel that all perspectives are invaluable even if we don't always agree, at least it helps to learn and see things from a different view point.

    As-salāmu ʿalaykum

    as if the people of Syria deserve what’s happening to them!

    Macro: human beings ipso facto deserve absolutely nothing from God, not even a moment of sunlight or a halfbreath of clean air. Nevertheless God gives in abundant excess from sheer mercy and grace to mankind and the very second God takes away most people go nuts.

    Micro: Yes, they did. The wicked of Syria earned it as a punishment and the righteous earned it as a trial.

    The very idea of ‘submission’ is anathema to Westerners, especially Western men. We are independently motivated and we rule our own passions from the inside. At least when we’re at our best. Not that we’re not spiritual and often religious, but we’re not in the habit of prostrating ourselves, and have no intention of changing.

    Well when you say “westerners” perhaps you should specify Europeans or northwesterners. The southern coast of the Mediterranean is just as westerly as Europe and is just a tad Islamic.

    Everyone is already submitted to God, the laws of physics are part of the Shariah. The choice is in embracing or rebelling – not submitting to God. And there is literally no compulsion in Islam, the fact that there are considerable non-muslim populations that reside(d) in muslim administered areas attests to this. In the current era there has been the equivalent of “white flight” from muslim countries by christians and jews but today that is changing. For instance Morocco is the #1 retirement destination of French that expatriate… hundred thousand plus I believe. Throughout the Islamic world there are EuroChristian pensioners, workers, and holidayers. Also guestworkers from poor christian countries.

    We like being the way we are. We respect your right to live according to your wonts and proclivities in Muslim lands, but we also insist that you respect our rights to our sovereign lands and ways and culture. Are we perfect? heck no! And right now the West is under a demonic thrall.

    My parents country was conquered by France and was literally part of France for 132 years. My family worked for France first in my old country and then in France for over a century. It is quite presumptuous to suggest that those who speak the language, work, and have history of European countries are now to be subjected to religious inquisition. Secularism means secularism, it is not a velvet glove for the ancien religion.

    Glad to be here, interesting articles. Peace be with you and your household.

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    Macro: human beings ipso facto deserve absolutely nothing from God, not even a moment of sunlight or a halfbreath of clean air. Nevertheless God gives in abundant excess from sheer mercy and grace to mankind and the very second God takes away most people go nuts.
     
    that interpretation of Islam seems rather harsh to me Abdi, I must confess. I rather see life as an unlikely miracle of sorts, where we should be grateful, but not obeisant in abject fealty to a God, and certainly not to any of His earthly representatives.

    I don't see the madness and suffering happening to the Syrian people as the wrath of a God, but rather as the acts of all-too mortal human bastards stealing from those who're weaker.

    Well when you say “westerners” perhaps you should specify Europeans
     
    yes, that is indeed what I mean, but not just Europeans, but N. America, Oceana and Scandinavia, etc.. as well.

    For instance Morocco is the #1 retirement destination of French that expatriate
     
    something tells me that if this is the case, (and I have no reason for doubting you) then Islam is not likely ascendant in these areas. I just don't see Westerners, (as I've described them) being compatible with the tenets of Islam.

    Throughout the Islamic world there are EuroChristian pensioners, workers, and holidayers. Also guestworkers from poor christian countries.
     
    I've heard that Islamic countries and places are often very hospitable. I know of a couple, her British and he German, who met in Saudi Arabia, and had many tales to tell. Some good, (friendly people), some not so good, (they said if there's a car accident, that it was automatically the fault of the non-Saudi, the thinking being that had the foreigner not been there, there would have been no accident. Also that if someone is hurt in an accident, not to help them, because if you helped them, but then they died of their injuries, that you'd be held responsible). But all in all, I see no reason for anyone to condemn Islamic nations for being Islamic, even if there are local practices that seem odd or repressive.

    have history of European countries are now to be subjected to religious inquisition
     
    I agree with you there. If you've been living in the West since childhood, there certainly should be accommodations for your ways. I don't think anyone in the West decrying immigration is trying to repress Islam, (unlike the Zio-fiend that is trying to put its boot on Islam) but I also think the West has a right to maintain its identity. Just as Algeria had a right to retain its identity and culture and Islamic ways, if that's what suits the people there. I don't agree with colonialism any more than I agree with reverse colonialism.

    we may disagree on the meaning and purpose of life, but I suspect we're not too far off when it comes to simply respecting people's wish to live the way they want to live in their own lands.

    happiness is the love of your family and friends, and a respect for creation and it's abundance and wonders, including all the other people who're here to enjoy it - regardless of what name (if any) you give to the Creator, no?

    peace
  79. @iffen
    they evolved high trust and altruism but it is currently being triggered in favor of the wrong volk.

    There is no volk for them. They are the anti-volk. What is being triggered is their intent to separate from whites, such as yourself, who want a pan-white volk. They view whites who cling to religious, ethnic, racial or national differences as primitives and as the out-group to themselves. They tolerate volkishness in non-whites as their (non-whites) defense against the dominant whites of the past.

    its been an evolution in thought that I lived through, which has had some epijewnetic influence along the way.white leftism was until very recently and even now mostly non morbid to whites do goodism, Jew leftism has always been anti white, which until recently they had to be somewhat careful about.whispering in the blacks ear, and among themselves, dressing it up in anti male anti straight rhetoric.
    Pan whitism yeah I suppose thats what it comes down to at this point, Its really unlikely but its the only option we survive at all. But its not whites who loved their cultures and its people that first opted for pan whiteness, the left couldnt have gotten 6 feet if we were like that. WN for all of us that were not skinheads in the 70s is simply a response to greater and more explicit violence againt whites their nations and cultures. Its now clear Jews will nevcer assimilate or stop warking against whites, blacks and hispanics are genetically unable to ever compete in a capitalist meritocracy with whites and will forever be a burden we can not afford and will never be thanked for. Asians are no more assimilable than jews and will use whatever advantage they can to games our open cultures. In short multiculturalism is morbid to whites, whether goodwhites realize it or not. Only war will save us. Ideally then we can go back to normal relations with all peoples as interesting foreigners we trade goods and ideas with but who can not become citizens in our nations any more than we can become citizens in theirs.

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  80. @Abdī
    as if the people of Syria deserve what’s happening to them!

    Macro: human beings ipso facto deserve absolutely nothing from God, not even a moment of sunlight or a halfbreath of clean air. Nevertheless God gives in abundant excess from sheer mercy and grace to mankind and the very second God takes away most people go nuts.

    Micro: Yes, they did. The wicked of Syria earned it as a punishment and the righteous earned it as a trial.

    The very idea of ‘submission’ is anathema to Westerners, especially Western men. We are independently motivated and we rule our own passions from the inside. At least when we’re at our best. Not that we’re not spiritual and often religious, but we’re not in the habit of prostrating ourselves, and have no intention of changing.

    Well when you say "westerners" perhaps you should specify Europeans or northwesterners. The southern coast of the Mediterranean is just as westerly as Europe and is just a tad Islamic.

    Everyone is already submitted to God, the laws of physics are part of the Shariah. The choice is in embracing or rebelling - not submitting to God. And there is literally no compulsion in Islam, the fact that there are considerable non-muslim populations that reside(d) in muslim administered areas attests to this. In the current era there has been the equivalent of "white flight" from muslim countries by christians and jews but today that is changing. For instance Morocco is the #1 retirement destination of French that expatriate... hundred thousand plus I believe. Throughout the Islamic world there are EuroChristian pensioners, workers, and holidayers. Also guestworkers from poor christian countries.

    We like being the way we are. We respect your right to live according to your wonts and proclivities in Muslim lands, but we also insist that you respect our rights to our sovereign lands and ways and culture. Are we perfect? heck no! And right now the West is under a demonic thrall.

    My parents country was conquered by France and was literally part of France for 132 years. My family worked for France first in my old country and then in France for over a century. It is quite presumptuous to suggest that those who speak the language, work, and have history of European countries are now to be subjected to religious inquisition. Secularism means secularism, it is not a velvet glove for the ancien religion.

    Glad to be here, interesting articles. Peace be with you and your household.

    Macro: human beings ipso facto deserve absolutely nothing from God, not even a moment of sunlight or a halfbreath of clean air. Nevertheless God gives in abundant excess from sheer mercy and grace to mankind and the very second God takes away most people go nuts.

    that interpretation of Islam seems rather harsh to me Abdi, I must confess. I rather see life as an unlikely miracle of sorts, where we should be grateful, but not obeisant in abject fealty to a God, and certainly not to any of His earthly representatives.

    I don’t see the madness and suffering happening to the Syrian people as the wrath of a God, but rather as the acts of all-too mortal human bastards stealing from those who’re weaker.

    Well when you say “westerners” perhaps you should specify Europeans

    yes, that is indeed what I mean, but not just Europeans, but N. America, Oceana and Scandinavia, etc.. as well.

    For instance Morocco is the #1 retirement destination of French that expatriate

    something tells me that if this is the case, (and I have no reason for doubting you) then Islam is not likely ascendant in these areas. I just don’t see Westerners, (as I’ve described them) being compatible with the tenets of Islam.

    Throughout the Islamic world there are EuroChristian pensioners, workers, and holidayers. Also guestworkers from poor christian countries.

    I’ve heard that Islamic countries and places are often very hospitable. I know of a couple, her British and he German, who met in Saudi Arabia, and had many tales to tell. Some good, (friendly people), some not so good, (they said if there’s a car accident, that it was automatically the fault of the non-Saudi, the thinking being that had the foreigner not been there, there would have been no accident. Also that if someone is hurt in an accident, not to help them, because if you helped them, but then they died of their injuries, that you’d be held responsible). But all in all, I see no reason for anyone to condemn Islamic nations for being Islamic, even if there are local practices that seem odd or repressive.

    have history of European countries are now to be subjected to religious inquisition

    I agree with you there. If you’ve been living in the West since childhood, there certainly should be accommodations for your ways. I don’t think anyone in the West decrying immigration is trying to repress Islam, (unlike the Zio-fiend that is trying to put its boot on Islam) but I also think the West has a right to maintain its identity. Just as Algeria had a right to retain its identity and culture and Islamic ways, if that’s what suits the people there. I don’t agree with colonialism any more than I agree with reverse colonialism.

    we may disagree on the meaning and purpose of life, but I suspect we’re not too far off when it comes to simply respecting people’s wish to live the way they want to live in their own lands.

    happiness is the love of your family and friends, and a respect for creation and it’s abundance and wonders, including all the other people who’re here to enjoy it – regardless of what name (if any) you give to the Creator, no?

    peace

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  81. The alt-light is California liberals fighting “racism” to the point of chanting “Black Lives Matter.”

    They are 100% pro-Establishment mainstream types – they just want more FREEDOM, as Cuck Man the miscegenating Jew yelled with tears in his eyes.

    What is this, a Ron Paul rally? It ain’t 2008 anymore, kids. “Freedom” just means getting to shove a dildo up your ass while being a debt peon who is getting erased by ZOG-engineered demographic replacement.

    F*ck freedom. Libertarianism is a Deep State op. Libertarianism means Hutus dancing on your early grave from drug abuse or AIDS, it means your patrimony swallowed by globalist financiers (heroic Ayn Rosenbaum capitalists!) or spilled in their overseas forever wars fer FREEDOM, the freedom to spread their necrotic rot until the whole planet is dead.

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