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March 20, 2018

Dear Mr. Sulzberger:

Congratulations on assuming the reins of this nation’s — and arguably, the world’s — most influential publication. It’s the family business, of course, so your appointment to succeed your father doesn’t exactly qualify as a surprise. Even so, the responsibility for guiding the fortunes of a great institution must weigh heavily on you, especially when the media landscape is changing so rapidly and radically.

Undoubtedly, you’re already getting plenty of advice on how to run the paper, probably more than you want or need. Still, with your indulgence, I’d like to offer an outsider’s perspective on “the news that’s fit to print.” The famous motto of the Times insists that the paper is committed to publishing “all” such news — an admirable aspiration even if an impossibility. In practice, what readers like me get on a daily basis is “all the news that Times editors deem worthy of print.”

Of course, within that somewhat more restrictive universe of news, not all stories are equal. Some appear on the front page above the fold. Others are consigned to page A17 on Saturday morning.

And some topics receive more attention than others. In recent years, comprehensive coverage of issues touching on diversity, sexuality, and the status of women has become a Times hallmark. When it comes to Donald Trump, “comprehensive” can’t do justice to the attention he receives. At the Times (and more than a few other media outlets), he has induced a form of mania, with his daily effusion of taunts, insults, preposterous assertions, bogus claims, and decisions made, then immediately renounced, all reported in masochistic detail. Throw in salacious revelations from Trump’s colorful past and leaks from the ongoing Mueller investigation of his campaign and our 45th president has become for the Times something akin to a Great White Whale, albeit with a comb-over and a preference for baggy suits.

In the meantime, other issues of equal or even greater importance — I would put climate change in this category — receive no more than sporadic or irregular coverage. And, of course, some topics simply don’t make the cut at all, like just about anything short of a school shooting that happens in that vast expanse west of the Hudson that Saul Steinberg years ago so memorably depicted for the New Yorker.

The point of this admittedly unsolicited memo is not to urge the Times to open a bureau in Terre Haute or in the rapidly melting Arctic. Nor am I implying that the paper should tone down its efforts to dismantle the hetero-normative order, empower women, and promote equality for transgender persons. Yet I do want to suggest that obsessing about this administration’s stupefying tomfoolery finds the Times overlooking one particular issue that predates and transcends the Trump Moment. That issue is the normalization of armed conflict, with your writers, editors, and editorial board having tacitly accepted that, for the United States, war has become a permanent condition.

Let me stipulate that the Times does devote an impressive number of column-inches to the myriad U.S. military activities around the planet. Stories about deployments, firefights, airstrikes, sieges, and casualties abound. Readers can count on the Times to convey the latest White House or Pentagon pronouncements about the briefly visible light at the end of some very long tunnel. And features describing the plight of veterans back from the war zone also appear with appropriate and commendable frequency.

So anyone reading the Times for a week or a month will have absorbed the essential facts of the case, including the following:

* Over 6,000 days after it began, America’s war in Afghanistan continues, with Times correspondents providing regular and regularly repetitive updates;

* In the seven-year-long civil war that has engulfed Syria, the ever-shifting cast of belligerents now includes at least 2,000 (some sources say 4,000) U.S. special operators, the rationale for their presence changing from week to week, even as plans to keep U.S. troops in Syria indefinitely take shape;

* In Iraq, now liberated from ISIS, itself a byproduct of U.S. invasion and occupation, U.S. troops are now poised to stay on, more or less as they did in West Germany in 1945 and in South Korea after 1953;

* On the Arabian Peninsula, U.S. forces have partnered with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad Bin Salman Al Saud in brutalizing Yemen, thereby creating a vast humanitarian disaster despite the absence of discernible U.S. interests at stake;

* In the military equivalent of whacking self-sown weeds, American drones routinely attack Libyan militant groups that owe their existence to the chaos created in 2011 when the United States impulsively participated in the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi;

* More than a quarter-century after American troops entered Somalia to feed the starving, the U.S. military mission continues, presently in the form of recurring airstrikes;

* Elsewhere in Africa, the latest theater to offer opportunities for road-testing the most recent counterterrorism techniques, the U.S. military footprint is rapidly expanding, all but devoid of congressional (or possibly any other kind of) oversight;

* From the Levant to South Asia, a flood of American-manufactured weaponry continues to flow unabated, to the delight of the military-industrial complex, but with little evidence that the arms we sell or give away are contributing to regional peace and stability;

*Amid this endless spiral of undeclared American wars and conflicts, Congress stands by passively, only rousing itself as needed to appropriate money that ensures the unimpeded continuation of all of the above;

*Meanwhile, President Trump, though assessing all of this military hyperactivity as misbegotten — “Seven trillion dollars. What a mistake.” — is effectively perpetuating and even ramping up the policies pioneered by his predecessors.

This conglomeration of circumstances, I submit, invites attention to several first-order questions to which the Times appears stubbornly oblivious. These questions are by no means original with me. Indeed, Mr. Sulzberger (may I call you A.G.?), if you’ve kept up with TomDispatch — if you haven’t, you really should — you will already have encountered several of them. Yet in the higher reaches of mainstream journalism they remain sadly neglected, with disastrous practical and moral implications.

The key point is that when it comes to recent American wars, the Times offers coverage without perspective. “All the news” is shallow and redundant. Lots of dots, few connections.

To put it another way, what’s missing is any sort of Big Picture. The Times would never depict Russian military actions in the Crimea, eastern Ukraine, and Syria, along with its cyber-provocations, as somehow unrelated to one another. Yet it devotes remarkably little energy to identifying any links between what U.S. forces today are doing in Niger and what they are doing in Afghanistan; between U.S. drone attacks that target this group of “terrorists” and those that target some other group; or, more fundamentally, between what we thought we were doing as far back as the 1980s when Washington supported Saddam Hussein and what we imagine we’re doing today in the various Muslim-majority nations in which the U.S. military is present, whether welcome or not.

Crudely put, the central question that goes not only unanswered but unasked is this: What the hell is going on? Allow me to deconstruct that in ways that might resonate with Times correspondents:

What exactly should we call the enterprise in which U.S. forces have been engaged all these years? The term that George W. Bush introduced back in 2001, “Global War on Terrorism,” fell out of favor long ago. Nothing has appeared to replace it. A project that today finds U.S. forces mired in open-ended hostilities across a broad expanse of Muslim-majority nations does, I suggest, deserve a name, even if the commander-in-chief consigns most of those countries to “shithole” status. A while back, I proposed “War for the Greater Middle East,” but that didn’t catch on. Surely, the president or perhaps one of his many generals could come up with something better, some phrase that conveys a sense of purpose, scope, stakes, or location. The paper of record should insist that whatever it is the troops out there may be doing, their exertions ought to have a descriptive name.

What is our overall objective in waging that no-name war? After 9/11, George W. Bush vowed at various times to eliminate terrorism, liberate the oppressed, spread freedom and democracy, advance the cause of women’s rights across the Islamic world, and even end evil itself. Today, such aims seem like so many fantasies. So what is it we’re trying to accomplish? What will we settle for? Without a readily identifiable objective, how will anyone know when to raise that “Mission Accomplished” banner (again) and let the troops come home?

By extension, what exactly is the strategy for bringing our no-name war to a successful conclusion? A strategy is a kind of roadmap aimed at identifying resources, defining enemies (as well as friends), and describing a sequence of steps that will lead to some approximation of victory. It should offer a vision that gets us from where we are to where we want to be. Yet when it comes to waging its no-name war, Washington today has no strategy worthy of the name. This fact should outrage the American people and embarrass the national security establishment. It should also attract the curiosity of the New York Times.

Roughly speaking, in what year, decade, or century might this war end? Even if only approximately, it would help to know — and the American people deserve to know — when the front page of the Times might possibly carry a headline reading “Peace Secured” or “Hostilities Ended” or even merely “It’s Over.” On the other hand, if it’s unrealistic to expect the ever-morphing, ever-spreading no-name war to end at all, then shouldn’t someone say so, allowing citizens to chew on the implications of that prospect? Who better to reveal this secret hidden in plain sight than the newspaper over which you preside?

What can we expect the no-name war to cost? Although the president’s estimate of $7 trillion may be a trifle premature, it’s not wrong. It may even end up being on the low side. What that money might otherwise have paid for — including infrastructure, education, scientific and medical research, and possibly making amends for all the havoc wreaked by our ill-considered military endeavors — certainly merits detailed discussion. Here’s a way to start just such a discussion: Imagine a running tally of sunk and projected cumulative costs featured on the front page of the Times every morning. Just two numbers: the first a tabulation of what the Pentagon has already spent pursuant to all U.S. military interventions, large and small, since 9/11; the second, a projection of what the final bill might look like decades from now when the last of this generation’s war vets passes on.

Finally, what are the implications of saddling future generations with this financial burden? With the sole exception of the very brief Gulf War of 1990-1991, the no-name war is the only substantial armed conflict in American history where the generation in whose name it was waged resolutely refused to pay for it — indeed, happily accepted tax cuts when increases were very much in order. With astonishingly few exceptions, politicians endorsed this arrangement. One might think that enterprising reporters would want to investigate the various factors that foster such irresponsibility.

So that’s my take. I’m sure, A.G., that journalists in your employ could sharpen my questions and devise more of their own. But here’s a small proposition: just for a single day, confine Donald Trump to page A17 and give our no-name war the attention that the Times normally reserves for the president it loathes.

I’m not a newspaperman, but I’m reminded of that wonderful 1940 Hitchcock movie Foreign Correspondent. I expect you’ve seen it. Europe is stumbling toward war and Mr. Powers, head honcho at the fictitious New York Globe, is tired of getting the same-old same-old from the people he has on the scene. “I don’t want any more economists, sages, or oracles bombinating over our cables,” he rages. “I want a reporter. Somebody who doesn’t know the difference between an ism and a kangaroo.”

His rant requires deciphering. What Powers wants is someone with the combination of guts and naiveté to pose questions that more seasoned journalists trapped in a defective narrative of their own creation simply overlook.

So he pulls the decidedly unseasoned and spectacularly uninformed John Jones off the police beat, renames him Huntley Haverstock, sets him up with an expense account, and sends him off to take a fresh look at what gives in Europe. Haverstock proceeds to unearth the big truths to which his more sophisticated colleagues have become blind. Almost singlehandedly he alerts the American people to the dangers just ahead — and he also gets the girl. Terrific movie (even if, given Hitchcock’s well-documented mistreatment of women, it may be politically incorrect to say so).

Anyway, A.G., we need you to do something approximating what Mr. Powers did, but in real life. Good luck. I’m in your corner.

Andrew J. Bacevich, a TomDispatch regular, is the author of America’s War for the Greater Middle East: A Military History and other books.

(Republished from TomDispatch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Tick Tock says:

    Just happened to watch “The Roosevelt’s” documentary. What F# happened to our country??!! Well a large part of that is the complete loss of our free and open press. Andrew, let me second your motion to A.G. to get off his rump and to collect some heads before restaffing. I suggest Fred Reed for the new job of managing Editor. He used to be a cop beat reporter or so I heard.

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  2. A while back, I proposed “War for the Greater Middle East,” but that didn’t catch on. Surely, the president or perhaps one of his many generals could come up with something better, some phrase that conveys a sense of purpose, scope, stakes, or location.

    Why not call it what it is, The Jewish Zionist War.
    It started over 100 years ago; the parents and grandparents of some of the leaders of the present phase of Jewish Zionism’s war were present at its creation — Prescott Bush and Benzion Netanyahu chief among them.

    btw Andrew (mind if I call you Andrew?), the same crime family bosses drew up the plans for the Global War on Terror:
    George H W Bush, Benzion Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu and assorted neocons spoke at the Jerusalem Conference in July, 1979. Benjamin memorialized the conference in a book, “International Terrorism: Challenge and Response.” The seven states that were targeted for destruction were named in that benighted event.
    PLEASE NOTE, Mr. Bacevich, that George H W Bush’s Persian Gulf expedition was the first shot in the GWOT; Junior’s post-9/11 adventures were a second, or third or fourth act, a million Iraqis having been starved to death in the softening-up phase that followed Papa Bush’s opening move. The thing is, Iraqis were not dying fast enough and not angry enough to topple Saddam, so the WTC had to come down to engender that level of vengeance – seeking that seems to be a hallmark of Jewish Zionists and those who declare themselves thrilled to march under their banner (although not within their intimate inner sanctum: did you ever notice that the Star of David is a fiercely closed emblem, in contrast to the Swastika, which provides openings in all directions within sheltering arms).

    But if you really want to be accurate — and good journalism demands accuracy, right Dr. B? — The Jewish Zionist Wars began in earnest in the middle of World War I.

    re: Your discussion-starter suggestion to the NYTimes, Dr. Bacevich,

    “Here’s a way to start just such a discussion: Imagine a running tally of sunk and projected cumulative costs featured on the front page of the Times every morning. Just two numbers: the first a tabulation of what the Pentagon has already spent pursuant to all U.S. military interventions, large and small, since 9/11; the second, a projection of what the final bill might look like decades from now when the last of this generation’s war vets passes on.”

    Here’s another suggestion: Imagine a five-column analysis featured on the front page of the Times every morning,:
    Col. 1, a running tally of sunk and projected cumulative costs
    — let’s start with $7 trillion.

    Col. 2, a running tally of persons killed, whether civilian or warrior, in the Jewish Zionist wars of conquest, since WWI / 1917, the Starting point of the Jewish Zionist hot war. Is 100 million souls too large a number?

    Col. 3, a running tally of the Jewish population of Israel: today’s wikipedia says that number is 6.5 million

    Col. 4: Col. 1 / Col. 3: Each Jew living in Israel has cost USA $1.07 million (just since 9/11)

    Col. 5: Col. 2 / Col 3: 15.4 lives have been lost in war for each Jew living in Israel.

    Suck. on. that.

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    • Replies: @mcohen
    Got this from the net.


    At school, Little Johnny's classmate tells him that most adults are hiding at least one dark secret, so it's very easy to blackmail them by saying, "I know the whole truth." Little Johnny decides to go home and try it out.

    Johnny's mother greets him at home, and he tells her, "I know the whole truth." His mother quickly hands him $20 and says, "Just don't tell your father." Quite pleased, the boy waits for his father to get home from work, and greets him with, "I know the whole truth." The father promptly hands him $40 and says, "Please don't say a word to your mother."

    Very pleased, the boy is on his way to school the next day when he sees the mailman at his front door. The boy greets him by saying, "I know the whole truth." The mailman immediately drops the mail, opens his arms, and says, "Then come give your Daddy a great big hug!"
    , @jacques sheete
    You nailed it. Again.
    , @DMG
    I prefer the less provocative war title: The War to Christianize Islam, that is to pacify them and make them like Western Christians, not in doctrine but in attitude. You know, sweet self effacing little Islamites that accept their lot under Greater Israel and just produce and consume and turn the other cheek when ordered to. If that is still too provocative I'd settle for: The War to pacify Islam, or, the War to Subdue Islam. World order just can't tolerate a fighting religion. That is what we are fighting for, and it also gives a heads-up as to how long the war will last.
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  3. Giuseppe says:

    What exactly should we call the enterprise in which U.S. forces have been engaged all these years? The term that George W. Bush introduced back in 2001, “Global War on Terrorism,” fell out of favor long ago. Nothing has appeared to replace it. A project that today finds U.S. forces mired in open-ended hostilities across a broad expanse of Muslim-majority nations does, I suggest, deserve a name…

    It’s got a name, the Crusades, signifying something that has been crossed, like the Rubicon, or the point of no return.

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    "the Crusades"?

    Poor & incoherent comparison.

    OT, but actually the Crusades would not have happened if the Muslims had not seized the Christian Holy Lands in the first place.

    You forgot that part.
    , @Logan
    In what way were the Crusades then, or the whatever we want to call it today, a Rubicon or point of no return?

    The Crusades did not remain a permanent feature, they just fizzled out over a couple of centuries.
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  4. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The NYT has always been a propaganda outlet. Always. It’s just that they’ve been very good at it all these years much like the BBC has been something of a gold standard for disseminating British propaganda. The key is to be subtle and carry lots of items of interest to the readership such as culture, arts, local and foreign news, sports, gossip and celebrity coverage. Avoid heavy-handedness or telltale jargon, just sprinkle in the spin with a light touch. They’ve been cheerleaders for the various wars down through the years, wars that other people’s children become casualties of. Agreed, nowadays they seem to have gone over the top a bit with their cultural warfare and worship of sexual deviancies of any stripe. They’ve let their contempt for the average person in flyover country show through at times but they’ll probably pull back a bit since they’re clever enough to realize that one can fool more people whilst disguised as being objective. One should always wear rubber gloves when handling the NYT to avoid contamination.

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    After the BBC exposed Tony Blair's lies about the 45 minutes WMD's, the BBC got a new CEO, since then truth is hard to find with BBC.
    Media people also like to be able to pay the rent.
    Just a retired EU member of the Commission appeared on German tv, comparing the Iraq lies to the present Russian poison gas fairy tales.
    To the credit of BBC, the emotional interview was broadcast there too.
    Corbyn, UK's socialist leader, now is under fire for antisemitism.
    My idea is that this attack is because he questions May's assertions about Russia guilty of the attempted poison gas murders.
    The fairy tales about poison gas continue to surprise me, neither Assad nor Putin is so stupid as to kill in this way.
    That Churchill in 1918 used poison gas in Damascus is conveniently left out.
    He defended the use in parliament 'it did not bother him if someone was killed with a bullet or gas'.
    , @jilles dykstra
    What western medium is not ?
    Just a few websites are different
    , @anon
    bravo, very well said.
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  5. “All the news that’s fit to print.”

    Is of course a typo. What they mean is

    “All the news that’s fixed to print.”

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  6. Wow. This article was so long-winded I almost fell asleep reading it.

    OK. So, yes. Bacevich correctly notes and appropriately scolds the TIMES for its exhaustive interest in secondary details while the vile and loathsome Big Picture involving the everyday crimes of Zio-Washington get a pass. I’m glad he put this together. His conclusion however is hardly revalelatory. What took him so long?

    Zio-Washington and our vaunted Fourth Estate are deeply involved in disseminating Fake News and toxic political hate speech which they have used to justify Zio-America’s serial warfare and vast criminality. Disgraceful.

    It’s been this way for decades.

    Does this surprise you?

    It’s time to name names. Who is orchestrating this grand deception and ongoing war crimes, Mr. Bacevich?

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    It’s time to name names. Who is orchestrating this grand deception and ongoing war crimes, Mr. Bacevich?
     
    Yes it is.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    If, as its form suggests, this is an actual open letter to the latest controller of the NYT, albeit that its author must know that his target may never read it, do you think your prescription is sensible advice for the style,tone and gratuitous content to proffer?
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  7. All these questions for such an obvious answer: Imperialism.
    Cheney or a mouth piece, admitted it years ago: ” we are an empire now….”

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  8. The USA’s wars remind me of what was said in one of Len Deighton’s cold war spy novels ‘the object of the game is that the game is continued’.
    The fairy tales now about the Russian poison gas attempted murders in UK, NATO’s effort to get more money for ‘defence’ ?
    The Dutch decision to phase out the use of gas, in twelve years, very costly to the citizen, heat pumps, just another sanction against Russia, where gas can be bought at reasonable prices ?
    Trump’s objection to the Baltic sea gas pipeline from Russia to Germany, just to also sell Germany expensive USA gas ?
    Expensive cost price, expensive to transport, and it must be mixed with nitrogen in order to be used in present European installations.
    The investment for the nitrogen mixing, just for the Netherlands halve a billion euro’s.
    What the operating costs will be, no idea.

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    The USA’s wars remind me of what was said in one of Len Deighton’s cold war spy novels ‘the object of the game is that the game is continued’.
     
    Nice summary.

    And why it must be continued, we need only ask, "cui bono?"
    , @Jake
    "The USA’s wars remind me of what was said in one of Len Deighton’s cold war spy novels ‘the object of the game is that the game is continued’.'

    Is that author English? Seeing matters of life and death, certainly for others, as a game is nothing new to the English. You can find endless numbers of them throughout the building, height, and decline of the Brit Empire talking about the game of empire.

    I assume that is how the American sci fi writer came up with the title Game of Thrones.
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  9. @anonymous
    The NYT has always been a propaganda outlet. Always. It's just that they've been very good at it all these years much like the BBC has been something of a gold standard for disseminating British propaganda. The key is to be subtle and carry lots of items of interest to the readership such as culture, arts, local and foreign news, sports, gossip and celebrity coverage. Avoid heavy-handedness or telltale jargon, just sprinkle in the spin with a light touch. They've been cheerleaders for the various wars down through the years, wars that other people's children become casualties of. Agreed, nowadays they seem to have gone over the top a bit with their cultural warfare and worship of sexual deviancies of any stripe. They've let their contempt for the average person in flyover country show through at times but they'll probably pull back a bit since they're clever enough to realize that one can fool more people whilst disguised as being objective. One should always wear rubber gloves when handling the NYT to avoid contamination.

    After the BBC exposed Tony Blair’s lies about the 45 minutes WMD’s, the BBC got a new CEO, since then truth is hard to find with BBC.
    Media people also like to be able to pay the rent.
    Just a retired EU member of the Commission appeared on German tv, comparing the Iraq lies to the present Russian poison gas fairy tales.
    To the credit of BBC, the emotional interview was broadcast there too.
    Corbyn, UK’s socialist leader, now is under fire for antisemitism.
    My idea is that this attack is because he questions May’s assertions about Russia guilty of the attempted poison gas murders.
    The fairy tales about poison gas continue to surprise me, neither Assad nor Putin is so stupid as to kill in this way.
    That Churchill in 1918 used poison gas in Damascus is conveniently left out.
    He defended the use in parliament ‘it did not bother him if someone was killed with a bullet or gas’.

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    Meanwhile, a "liberated" Ukraine (the Kaganat of Nuland) is enjoying the triumph of ziocon intervention: http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/russian-federation-sitrep-5-april-2018-patrick-armstrong.html
    "An American survey shows that the mood in Ukraine is bad and expecting worse: http://www.iri.org/sites/default/files/2018-3-22_ukraine_poll.pdf. Well, that's one post-Maidan Ukraine expectation that will be fulfilled.
    Nadia Savchenko, a former Ukrainian hero, has been arrested in Ukraine on terrorism charges. She dares to suggest that the massacre [the US-sponsored coup d'etat in Kiev in 2014] was a false flag: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2658245
    Here are confessions by some of the snipers that your local news outlet has been too busy to tell you about: https://thesaker.is/snipers-at-ukraines-maidan-confess-to-shooting-both-sides-in-italian-report-ignored-by-msm/
    20 years of Washington's behaviour has reversed a strong pro-American sentiment. In this respect Simonyan's piece is relevant: "We no longer want to live like you. For fifty years, secretly and openly, we wanted to live like you, but not any longer. We no longer respect you": http://russiafeed.com/rt-chief-margarita-simonyan-why-we-dont-respect-the-west-anymore/
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  10. @anonymous
    The NYT has always been a propaganda outlet. Always. It's just that they've been very good at it all these years much like the BBC has been something of a gold standard for disseminating British propaganda. The key is to be subtle and carry lots of items of interest to the readership such as culture, arts, local and foreign news, sports, gossip and celebrity coverage. Avoid heavy-handedness or telltale jargon, just sprinkle in the spin with a light touch. They've been cheerleaders for the various wars down through the years, wars that other people's children become casualties of. Agreed, nowadays they seem to have gone over the top a bit with their cultural warfare and worship of sexual deviancies of any stripe. They've let their contempt for the average person in flyover country show through at times but they'll probably pull back a bit since they're clever enough to realize that one can fool more people whilst disguised as being objective. One should always wear rubber gloves when handling the NYT to avoid contamination.

    What western medium is not ?
    Just a few websites are different

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  11. mcohen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    A while back, I proposed “War for the Greater Middle East,” but that didn’t catch on. Surely, the president or perhaps one of his many generals could come up with something better, some phrase that conveys a sense of purpose, scope, stakes, or location.
     
    Why not call it what it is, The Jewish Zionist War.
    It started over 100 years ago; the parents and grandparents of some of the leaders of the present phase of Jewish Zionism's war were present at its creation -- Prescott Bush and Benzion Netanyahu chief among them.

    btw Andrew (mind if I call you Andrew?), the same crime family bosses drew up the plans for the Global War on Terror:
    George H W Bush, Benzion Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu and assorted neocons spoke at the Jerusalem Conference in July, 1979. Benjamin memorialized the conference in a book, "International Terrorism: Challenge and Response." The seven states that were targeted for destruction were named in that benighted event.
    PLEASE NOTE, Mr. Bacevich, that George H W Bush's Persian Gulf expedition was the first shot in the GWOT; Junior's post-9/11 adventures were a second, or third or fourth act, a million Iraqis having been starved to death in the softening-up phase that followed Papa Bush's opening move. The thing is, Iraqis were not dying fast enough and not angry enough to topple Saddam, so the WTC had to come down to engender that level of vengeance - seeking that seems to be a hallmark of Jewish Zionists and those who declare themselves thrilled to march under their banner (although not within their intimate inner sanctum: did you ever notice that the Star of David is a fiercely closed emblem, in contrast to the Swastika, which provides openings in all directions within sheltering arms).

    But if you really want to be accurate -- and good journalism demands accuracy, right Dr. B? -- The Jewish Zionist Wars began in earnest in the middle of World War I.

    re: Your discussion-starter suggestion to the NYTimes, Dr. Bacevich,


    "Here’s a way to start just such a discussion: Imagine a running tally of sunk and projected cumulative costs featured on the front page of the Times every morning. Just two numbers: the first a tabulation of what the Pentagon has already spent pursuant to all U.S. military interventions, large and small, since 9/11; the second, a projection of what the final bill might look like decades from now when the last of this generation’s war vets passes on."
     
    Here's another suggestion: Imagine a five-column analysis featured on the front page of the Times every morning,:
    Col. 1, a running tally of sunk and projected cumulative costs
    -- let's start with $7 trillion.

    Col. 2, a running tally of persons killed, whether civilian or warrior, in the Jewish Zionist wars of conquest, since WWI / 1917, the Starting point of the Jewish Zionist hot war. Is 100 million souls too large a number?

    Col. 3, a running tally of the Jewish population of Israel: today's wikipedia says that number is 6.5 million

    Col. 4: Col. 1 / Col. 3: Each Jew living in Israel has cost USA $1.07 million (just since 9/11)

    Col. 5: Col. 2 / Col 3: 15.4 lives have been lost in war for each Jew living in Israel.


    Suck. on. that.

    Got this from the net.

    At school, Little Johnny’s classmate tells him that most adults are hiding at least one dark secret, so it’s very easy to blackmail them by saying, “I know the whole truth.” Little Johnny decides to go home and try it out.

    Johnny’s mother greets him at home, and he tells her, “I know the whole truth.” His mother quickly hands him $20 and says, “Just don’t tell your father.” Quite pleased, the boy waits for his father to get home from work, and greets him with, “I know the whole truth.” The father promptly hands him $40 and says, “Please don’t say a word to your mother.”

    Very pleased, the boy is on his way to school the next day when he sees the mailman at his front door. The boy greets him by saying, “I know the whole truth.” The mailman immediately drops the mail, opens his arms, and says, “Then come give your Daddy a great big hug!”

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  12. Renoman says:

    Just a Jewish Democrat Liberal shit rag, fulla lies.

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  13. Randal says:

    Nor am I implying that the paper should tone down its efforts to dismantle the hetero-normative order, empower women, and promote equality for transgender persons.

    It would be nice if they would.

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  14. @SolontoCroesus

    A while back, I proposed “War for the Greater Middle East,” but that didn’t catch on. Surely, the president or perhaps one of his many generals could come up with something better, some phrase that conveys a sense of purpose, scope, stakes, or location.
     
    Why not call it what it is, The Jewish Zionist War.
    It started over 100 years ago; the parents and grandparents of some of the leaders of the present phase of Jewish Zionism's war were present at its creation -- Prescott Bush and Benzion Netanyahu chief among them.

    btw Andrew (mind if I call you Andrew?), the same crime family bosses drew up the plans for the Global War on Terror:
    George H W Bush, Benzion Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu and assorted neocons spoke at the Jerusalem Conference in July, 1979. Benjamin memorialized the conference in a book, "International Terrorism: Challenge and Response." The seven states that were targeted for destruction were named in that benighted event.
    PLEASE NOTE, Mr. Bacevich, that George H W Bush's Persian Gulf expedition was the first shot in the GWOT; Junior's post-9/11 adventures were a second, or third or fourth act, a million Iraqis having been starved to death in the softening-up phase that followed Papa Bush's opening move. The thing is, Iraqis were not dying fast enough and not angry enough to topple Saddam, so the WTC had to come down to engender that level of vengeance - seeking that seems to be a hallmark of Jewish Zionists and those who declare themselves thrilled to march under their banner (although not within their intimate inner sanctum: did you ever notice that the Star of David is a fiercely closed emblem, in contrast to the Swastika, which provides openings in all directions within sheltering arms).

    But if you really want to be accurate -- and good journalism demands accuracy, right Dr. B? -- The Jewish Zionist Wars began in earnest in the middle of World War I.

    re: Your discussion-starter suggestion to the NYTimes, Dr. Bacevich,


    "Here’s a way to start just such a discussion: Imagine a running tally of sunk and projected cumulative costs featured on the front page of the Times every morning. Just two numbers: the first a tabulation of what the Pentagon has already spent pursuant to all U.S. military interventions, large and small, since 9/11; the second, a projection of what the final bill might look like decades from now when the last of this generation’s war vets passes on."
     
    Here's another suggestion: Imagine a five-column analysis featured on the front page of the Times every morning,:
    Col. 1, a running tally of sunk and projected cumulative costs
    -- let's start with $7 trillion.

    Col. 2, a running tally of persons killed, whether civilian or warrior, in the Jewish Zionist wars of conquest, since WWI / 1917, the Starting point of the Jewish Zionist hot war. Is 100 million souls too large a number?

    Col. 3, a running tally of the Jewish population of Israel: today's wikipedia says that number is 6.5 million

    Col. 4: Col. 1 / Col. 3: Each Jew living in Israel has cost USA $1.07 million (just since 9/11)

    Col. 5: Col. 2 / Col 3: 15.4 lives have been lost in war for each Jew living in Israel.


    Suck. on. that.

    You nailed it. Again.

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  15. @mark green
    Wow. This article was so long-winded I almost fell asleep reading it.

    OK. So, yes. Bacevich correctly notes and appropriately scolds the TIMES for its exhaustive interest in secondary details while the vile and loathsome Big Picture involving the everyday crimes of Zio-Washington get a pass. I'm glad he put this together. His conclusion however is hardly revalelatory. What took him so long?

    Zio-Washington and our vaunted Fourth Estate are deeply involved in disseminating Fake News and toxic political hate speech which they have used to justify Zio-America's serial warfare and vast criminality. Disgraceful.

    It's been this way for decades.

    Does this surprise you?

    It's time to name names. Who is orchestrating this grand deception and ongoing war crimes, Mr. Bacevich?

    It’s time to name names. Who is orchestrating this grand deception and ongoing war crimes, Mr. Bacevich?

    Yes it is.

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  16. Didn’t the Bible warn us about the New York Times in John 8:44?

    ‘Lying is their native language’.

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  17. @jilles dykstra
    The USA's wars remind me of what was said in one of Len Deighton's cold war spy novels 'the object of the game is that the game is continued'.
    The fairy tales now about the Russian poison gas attempted murders in UK, NATO's effort to get more money for 'defence' ?
    The Dutch decision to phase out the use of gas, in twelve years, very costly to the citizen, heat pumps, just another sanction against Russia, where gas can be bought at reasonable prices ?
    Trump's objection to the Baltic sea gas pipeline from Russia to Germany, just to also sell Germany expensive USA gas ?
    Expensive cost price, expensive to transport, and it must be mixed with nitrogen in order to be used in present European installations.
    The investment for the nitrogen mixing, just for the Netherlands halve a billion euro's.
    What the operating costs will be, no idea.

    The USA’s wars remind me of what was said in one of Len Deighton’s cold war spy novels ‘the object of the game is that the game is continued’.

    Nice summary.

    And why it must be continued, we need only ask, “cui bono?”

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  18. The U.S. is a Zionist controlled OCEANIA.

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  19. Speaking as an unrepenant Cold Warrior (v1.0) and paleocon, I do miss the NYT that occasionally questioned what the hell we were doing in various corners of the world.

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  20. Joe Hide says:

    I would say that this type of article justifiably points at the hypocrisy of the NYT, while angrily and un-justifiably attempting to shift the reader’s attention to mis-information, in an effort to keep these readers mis-informed. The perceptive reader will of course, by now, have realized that the Deep State Propagandists will use their people in journalism (Whether the journalists are intentionally or un-intentionally doing so) to keep the public focus shifting from one falsified narrative to another. Thus the focus is never on the actual truth, but always on a shifting false description of events.

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  21. @mark green
    Wow. This article was so long-winded I almost fell asleep reading it.

    OK. So, yes. Bacevich correctly notes and appropriately scolds the TIMES for its exhaustive interest in secondary details while the vile and loathsome Big Picture involving the everyday crimes of Zio-Washington get a pass. I'm glad he put this together. His conclusion however is hardly revalelatory. What took him so long?

    Zio-Washington and our vaunted Fourth Estate are deeply involved in disseminating Fake News and toxic political hate speech which they have used to justify Zio-America's serial warfare and vast criminality. Disgraceful.

    It's been this way for decades.

    Does this surprise you?

    It's time to name names. Who is orchestrating this grand deception and ongoing war crimes, Mr. Bacevich?

    If, as its form suggests, this is an actual open letter to the latest controller of the NYT, albeit that its author must know that his target may never read it, do you think your prescription is sensible advice for the style,tone and gratuitous content to proffer?

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  22. @Randal

    Nor am I implying that the paper should tone down its efforts to dismantle the hetero-normative order, empower women, and promote equality for transgender persons.
     
    It would be nice if they would.

    There is no such thing as a transgender person, only insane ones

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    I'm certainly not going to disagree with that.
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  23. The NYT is not worthy of criticism. Condemn it outright or remain silent.

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  24. Randal says:
    @Bill jones
    There is no such thing as a transgender person, only insane ones

    I’m certainly not going to disagree with that.

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  25. renfro says:

    oh groan….not Bacevich again….cant stand this peacock and his verbosity.
    He must get paid by the word.

    Here’s what a decent editor would cut from his cutesy tirade.

    and arguably,
    of course
    doesn’t exactly qualify
    with your indulgence,
    I would put
    In the meantime,
    or irregular
    And, of course,
    that happens in that vast expanse west of the Hudson that Saul Steinberg years ago so memorably depicted for the New Yorker
    The point of this admittedly unsolicited memo is not to urge the Times to open a bureau in Terre Haute or in the rapidly melting Arctic.
    tone down its efforts to dismantle the hetero-normative order,
    Yet I do want to suggest that obsessing about this administration’s stupefying tomfoolery finds the Times overlooking one particular issue that predates and transcends the Trump Moment
    briefly visible
    appropriate and
    regular and
    I submit,
    Mr. Sulzberger (may I call you A.G.?),
    Crudely put,
    I suggest,
    A strategy is a kind of roadmap aimed at identifying resources, defining enemies (as well as friends), and describing a sequence of steps that will lead to some approximation of victory.
    Roughly speaking
    So that’s my take.
    A.G.,
    “I don’t want any more economists, sages, or oracles bombinating over our cables,” he rages. “I want a reporter. Somebody who doesn’t know the difference between an ism and a kangaroo.”
    His rant requires deciphering.
    So he pulls the decidedly unseasoned and spectacularly uninformed John Jones off the police beat, renames him Huntley Haverstock, sets him up with an expense account, and sends him off to take a fresh look at what gives in Europe. Haverstock proceeds to unearth the big truths to which his more sophisticated colleagues have become blind. Almost singlehandedly he alerts the American people to the dangers just ahead — and he also gets the girl. Terrific movie (even if, given Hitchcock’s well-documented mistreatment of women, it may be politically incorrect to say so).
    A.G.,

    “It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book.”
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche
    ”Life is too short to stuff a mushroom.”

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    Thank you for your willingness to help us all with our thinking and style, but I had already read more unimproving words today than I need to before having your jumble thrust before me with an implied promise of such applied critical intelligence that I really should struggle through it.
    , @Wally
    " in the rapidly melting Arctic"

    Except the Arctic is not rapidly melting.
    see: https://principia-scientific.org/?s=arctic
    and:
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/02/22/science-debunks-the-arctic-sea-ice-extent-at-its-lowest-for-at-least-1500-years-meme/
    and:
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/11/21/arctic-sea-ice-expanding-faster-than-normal/

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  26. anon[507] • Disclaimer says:

    it is sadly a very simple answer: what happened is the ever growing influence and now full control of our country by Israel and the US jew army (which includes most importantly non jewish US politicians who, in large number, spend their time with their back to israel in a 90 degree position. while others sure prefer facing israel, on their knees, mouths wide opened.

    And there goes America guys. Long time gone indeed.

    The “motion” is going nowhere.

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    Russia and Poland should've been a history lesson for us, but money trumped sense!
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  27. anon[507] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    The NYT has always been a propaganda outlet. Always. It's just that they've been very good at it all these years much like the BBC has been something of a gold standard for disseminating British propaganda. The key is to be subtle and carry lots of items of interest to the readership such as culture, arts, local and foreign news, sports, gossip and celebrity coverage. Avoid heavy-handedness or telltale jargon, just sprinkle in the spin with a light touch. They've been cheerleaders for the various wars down through the years, wars that other people's children become casualties of. Agreed, nowadays they seem to have gone over the top a bit with their cultural warfare and worship of sexual deviancies of any stripe. They've let their contempt for the average person in flyover country show through at times but they'll probably pull back a bit since they're clever enough to realize that one can fool more people whilst disguised as being objective. One should always wear rubber gloves when handling the NYT to avoid contamination.

    bravo, very well said.

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  28. Jake says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The USA's wars remind me of what was said in one of Len Deighton's cold war spy novels 'the object of the game is that the game is continued'.
    The fairy tales now about the Russian poison gas attempted murders in UK, NATO's effort to get more money for 'defence' ?
    The Dutch decision to phase out the use of gas, in twelve years, very costly to the citizen, heat pumps, just another sanction against Russia, where gas can be bought at reasonable prices ?
    Trump's objection to the Baltic sea gas pipeline from Russia to Germany, just to also sell Germany expensive USA gas ?
    Expensive cost price, expensive to transport, and it must be mixed with nitrogen in order to be used in present European installations.
    The investment for the nitrogen mixing, just for the Netherlands halve a billion euro's.
    What the operating costs will be, no idea.

    “The USA’s wars remind me of what was said in one of Len Deighton’s cold war spy novels ‘the object of the game is that the game is continued’.’

    Is that author English? Seeing matters of life and death, certainly for others, as a game is nothing new to the English. You can find endless numbers of them throughout the building, height, and decline of the Brit Empire talking about the game of empire.

    I assume that is how the American sci fi writer came up with the title Game of Thrones.

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    Jake, The English people, indeed the British people, are by and large kind and decent people as are most Americans too. I personally know people who, on hearing that anything is American, want nothing further to do with it. This type of generalised thinking benefits no one at all.

    It's fair to ask how could such decent and good people elect and re-elect Mrs Thatcher and Tony Blair? It is also fair to ask the same question with regards to GW Bush and Bill Clinton. I don't have the answers to this, just as I despair the fact that Australians elected and re-elected the lying rodent John Howard, lying evil whore warmongers all.

    All of the above mentioned nations are largely peopled by good folk who have had mass migration foisted on them along with multiculturalism and senseless militarism and a host of other destructive policies but I think it helps to ask and state just who is driving the bus to the wrong destination without hating the passengers for being on the bus. (Sincere apologies to Chuck Orloski for this simplistic analogy).
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  29. DMG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    A while back, I proposed “War for the Greater Middle East,” but that didn’t catch on. Surely, the president or perhaps one of his many generals could come up with something better, some phrase that conveys a sense of purpose, scope, stakes, or location.
     
    Why not call it what it is, The Jewish Zionist War.
    It started over 100 years ago; the parents and grandparents of some of the leaders of the present phase of Jewish Zionism's war were present at its creation -- Prescott Bush and Benzion Netanyahu chief among them.

    btw Andrew (mind if I call you Andrew?), the same crime family bosses drew up the plans for the Global War on Terror:
    George H W Bush, Benzion Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu and assorted neocons spoke at the Jerusalem Conference in July, 1979. Benjamin memorialized the conference in a book, "International Terrorism: Challenge and Response." The seven states that were targeted for destruction were named in that benighted event.
    PLEASE NOTE, Mr. Bacevich, that George H W Bush's Persian Gulf expedition was the first shot in the GWOT; Junior's post-9/11 adventures were a second, or third or fourth act, a million Iraqis having been starved to death in the softening-up phase that followed Papa Bush's opening move. The thing is, Iraqis were not dying fast enough and not angry enough to topple Saddam, so the WTC had to come down to engender that level of vengeance - seeking that seems to be a hallmark of Jewish Zionists and those who declare themselves thrilled to march under their banner (although not within their intimate inner sanctum: did you ever notice that the Star of David is a fiercely closed emblem, in contrast to the Swastika, which provides openings in all directions within sheltering arms).

    But if you really want to be accurate -- and good journalism demands accuracy, right Dr. B? -- The Jewish Zionist Wars began in earnest in the middle of World War I.

    re: Your discussion-starter suggestion to the NYTimes, Dr. Bacevich,


    "Here’s a way to start just such a discussion: Imagine a running tally of sunk and projected cumulative costs featured on the front page of the Times every morning. Just two numbers: the first a tabulation of what the Pentagon has already spent pursuant to all U.S. military interventions, large and small, since 9/11; the second, a projection of what the final bill might look like decades from now when the last of this generation’s war vets passes on."
     
    Here's another suggestion: Imagine a five-column analysis featured on the front page of the Times every morning,:
    Col. 1, a running tally of sunk and projected cumulative costs
    -- let's start with $7 trillion.

    Col. 2, a running tally of persons killed, whether civilian or warrior, in the Jewish Zionist wars of conquest, since WWI / 1917, the Starting point of the Jewish Zionist hot war. Is 100 million souls too large a number?

    Col. 3, a running tally of the Jewish population of Israel: today's wikipedia says that number is 6.5 million

    Col. 4: Col. 1 / Col. 3: Each Jew living in Israel has cost USA $1.07 million (just since 9/11)

    Col. 5: Col. 2 / Col 3: 15.4 lives have been lost in war for each Jew living in Israel.


    Suck. on. that.

    I prefer the less provocative war title: The War to Christianize Islam, that is to pacify them and make them like Western Christians, not in doctrine but in attitude. You know, sweet self effacing little Islamites that accept their lot under Greater Israel and just produce and consume and turn the other cheek when ordered to. If that is still too provocative I’d settle for: The War to pacify Islam, or, the War to Subdue Islam. World order just can’t tolerate a fighting religion. That is what we are fighting for, and it also gives a heads-up as to how long the war will last.

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  30. Druid says:
    @anon
    it is sadly a very simple answer: what happened is the ever growing influence and now full control of our country by Israel and the US jew army (which includes most importantly non jewish US politicians who, in large number, spend their time with their back to israel in a 90 degree position. while others sure prefer facing israel, on their knees, mouths wide opened.

    And there goes America guys. Long time gone indeed.

    The "motion" is going nowhere.

    Russia and Poland should’ve been a history lesson for us, but money trumped sense!

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  31. annamaria says:
    @jilles dykstra
    After the BBC exposed Tony Blair's lies about the 45 minutes WMD's, the BBC got a new CEO, since then truth is hard to find with BBC.
    Media people also like to be able to pay the rent.
    Just a retired EU member of the Commission appeared on German tv, comparing the Iraq lies to the present Russian poison gas fairy tales.
    To the credit of BBC, the emotional interview was broadcast there too.
    Corbyn, UK's socialist leader, now is under fire for antisemitism.
    My idea is that this attack is because he questions May's assertions about Russia guilty of the attempted poison gas murders.
    The fairy tales about poison gas continue to surprise me, neither Assad nor Putin is so stupid as to kill in this way.
    That Churchill in 1918 used poison gas in Damascus is conveniently left out.
    He defended the use in parliament 'it did not bother him if someone was killed with a bullet or gas'.

    Meanwhile, a “liberated” Ukraine (the Kaganat of Nuland) is enjoying the triumph of ziocon intervention: http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/russian-federation-sitrep-5-april-2018-patrick-armstrong.html
    “An American survey shows that the mood in Ukraine is bad and expecting worse: http://www.iri.org/sites/default/files/2018-3-22_ukraine_poll.pdf. Well, that’s one post-Maidan Ukraine expectation that will be fulfilled.
    Nadia Savchenko, a former Ukrainian hero, has been arrested in Ukraine on terrorism charges. She dares to suggest that the massacre [the US-sponsored coup d'etat in Kiev in 2014] was a false flag: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2658245
    Here are confessions by some of the snipers that your local news outlet has been too busy to tell you about: https://thesaker.is/snipers-at-ukraines-maidan-confess-to-shooting-both-sides-in-italian-report-ignored-by-msm/
    20 years of Washington’s behaviour has reversed a strong pro-American sentiment. In this respect Simonyan’s piece is relevant: “We no longer want to live like you. For fifty years, secretly and openly, we wanted to live like you, but not any longer. We no longer respect you”: http://russiafeed.com/rt-chief-margarita-simonyan-why-we-dont-respect-the-west-anymore/

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  32. annamaria says:

    The ancient civilization of China sees the naked king and says the truth about the nakedness:

    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1095361.shtml

    “The accusations that Western countries have hurled at Russia are based on ulterior motives… The fact that major Western powers can gang up and “sentence” a foreign country without following the same procedures other countries abide by and according to the basic tenets of international law is chilling. … Such actions are nothing more than a form of Western bullying that threatens global peace and justice.
    Over the past few years, the international standard has been falsified and manipulated in ways never seen before. … more foreign countries have been victimized by Western rhetoric and nonsensical diplomatic measures…
    It is beyond outrageous how the US and Europe have treated Russia. Their actions represent a frivolity and recklessness that has grown to characterize Western hegemony that only knows how to contaminate international relations.”

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    Do you really think the Global Times has much relation to China's ancient civilization, or indeed its dignity?
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  33. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro
    oh groan....not Bacevich again....cant stand this peacock and his verbosity.
    He must get paid by the word.

    Here's what a decent editor would cut from his cutesy tirade.

    and arguably,
    of course
    doesn’t exactly qualify
    with your indulgence,
    I would put
    In the meantime,
    or irregular
    And, of course,
    that happens in that vast expanse west of the Hudson that Saul Steinberg years ago so memorably depicted for the New Yorker
    The point of this admittedly unsolicited memo is not to urge the Times to open a bureau in Terre Haute or in the rapidly melting Arctic.
    tone down its efforts to dismantle the hetero-normative order,
    Yet I do want to suggest that obsessing about this administration’s stupefying tomfoolery finds the Times overlooking one particular issue that predates and transcends the Trump Moment
    briefly visible
    appropriate and
    regular and
    I submit,
    Mr. Sulzberger (may I call you A.G.?),
    Crudely put,
    I suggest,
    A strategy is a kind of roadmap aimed at identifying resources, defining enemies (as well as friends), and describing a sequence of steps that will lead to some approximation of victory.
    Roughly speaking
    So that’s my take.
    A.G.,
    “I don’t want any more economists, sages, or oracles bombinating over our cables,” he rages. “I want a reporter. Somebody who doesn’t know the difference between an ism and a kangaroo.”
    His rant requires deciphering.
    So he pulls the decidedly unseasoned and spectacularly uninformed John Jones off the police beat, renames him Huntley Haverstock, sets him up with an expense account, and sends him off to take a fresh look at what gives in Europe. Haverstock proceeds to unearth the big truths to which his more sophisticated colleagues have become blind. Almost singlehandedly he alerts the American people to the dangers just ahead — and he also gets the girl. Terrific movie (even if, given Hitchcock’s well-documented mistreatment of women, it may be politically incorrect to say so).
    A.G.,

    “It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book.”
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche
    ''Life is too short to stuff a mushroom.”

    Thank you for your willingness to help us all with our thinking and style, but I had already read more unimproving words today than I need to before having your jumble thrust before me with an implied promise of such applied critical intelligence that I really should struggle through it.

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  34. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria
    The ancient civilization of China sees the naked king and says the truth about the nakedness:
    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1095361.shtml
    "The accusations that Western countries have hurled at Russia are based on ulterior motives... The fact that major Western powers can gang up and "sentence" a foreign country without following the same procedures other countries abide by and according to the basic tenets of international law is chilling. ... Such actions are nothing more than a form of Western bullying that threatens global peace and justice.
    Over the past few years, the international standard has been falsified and manipulated in ways never seen before. ... more foreign countries have been victimized by Western rhetoric and nonsensical diplomatic measures...
    It is beyond outrageous how the US and Europe have treated Russia. Their actions represent a frivolity and recklessness that has grown to characterize Western hegemony that only knows how to contaminate international relations."

    Do you really think the Global Times has much relation to China’s ancient civilization, or indeed its dignity?

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  35. Wally says:
    @Giuseppe

    What exactly should we call the enterprise in which U.S. forces have been engaged all these years? The term that George W. Bush introduced back in 2001, “Global War on Terrorism,” fell out of favor long ago. Nothing has appeared to replace it. A project that today finds U.S. forces mired in open-ended hostilities across a broad expanse of Muslim-majority nations does, I suggest, deserve a name...
     
    It's got a name, the Crusades, signifying something that has been crossed, like the Rubicon, or the point of no return.

    “the Crusades”?

    Poor & incoherent comparison.

    OT, but actually the Crusades would not have happened if the Muslims had not seized the Christian Holy Lands in the first place.

    You forgot that part.

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  36. Wally says:
    @renfro
    oh groan....not Bacevich again....cant stand this peacock and his verbosity.
    He must get paid by the word.

    Here's what a decent editor would cut from his cutesy tirade.

    and arguably,
    of course
    doesn’t exactly qualify
    with your indulgence,
    I would put
    In the meantime,
    or irregular
    And, of course,
    that happens in that vast expanse west of the Hudson that Saul Steinberg years ago so memorably depicted for the New Yorker
    The point of this admittedly unsolicited memo is not to urge the Times to open a bureau in Terre Haute or in the rapidly melting Arctic.
    tone down its efforts to dismantle the hetero-normative order,
    Yet I do want to suggest that obsessing about this administration’s stupefying tomfoolery finds the Times overlooking one particular issue that predates and transcends the Trump Moment
    briefly visible
    appropriate and
    regular and
    I submit,
    Mr. Sulzberger (may I call you A.G.?),
    Crudely put,
    I suggest,
    A strategy is a kind of roadmap aimed at identifying resources, defining enemies (as well as friends), and describing a sequence of steps that will lead to some approximation of victory.
    Roughly speaking
    So that’s my take.
    A.G.,
    “I don’t want any more economists, sages, or oracles bombinating over our cables,” he rages. “I want a reporter. Somebody who doesn’t know the difference between an ism and a kangaroo.”
    His rant requires deciphering.
    So he pulls the decidedly unseasoned and spectacularly uninformed John Jones off the police beat, renames him Huntley Haverstock, sets him up with an expense account, and sends him off to take a fresh look at what gives in Europe. Haverstock proceeds to unearth the big truths to which his more sophisticated colleagues have become blind. Almost singlehandedly he alerts the American people to the dangers just ahead — and he also gets the girl. Terrific movie (even if, given Hitchcock’s well-documented mistreatment of women, it may be politically incorrect to say so).
    A.G.,

    “It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book.”
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche
    ''Life is too short to stuff a mushroom.”
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  37. Ok,

    Not only is the NYT wrong about their war advocacy since 9/11, they are also wrong about issues concerning the objective of biology. The entire program on gender is based on a unsupportable continuum of attraction which has no science to back it up.

    I am unclear how one sees the faulty logic in area and dismisses it in another.

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  38. @Jake
    "The USA’s wars remind me of what was said in one of Len Deighton’s cold war spy novels ‘the object of the game is that the game is continued’.'

    Is that author English? Seeing matters of life and death, certainly for others, as a game is nothing new to the English. You can find endless numbers of them throughout the building, height, and decline of the Brit Empire talking about the game of empire.

    I assume that is how the American sci fi writer came up with the title Game of Thrones.

    Jake, The English people, indeed the British people, are by and large kind and decent people as are most Americans too. I personally know people who, on hearing that anything is American, want nothing further to do with it. This type of generalised thinking benefits no one at all.

    It’s fair to ask how could such decent and good people elect and re-elect Mrs Thatcher and Tony Blair? It is also fair to ask the same question with regards to GW Bush and Bill Clinton. I don’t have the answers to this, just as I despair the fact that Australians elected and re-elected the lying rodent John Howard, lying evil whore warmongers all.

    All of the above mentioned nations are largely peopled by good folk who have had mass migration foisted on them along with multiculturalism and senseless militarism and a host of other destructive policies but I think it helps to ask and state just who is driving the bus to the wrong destination without hating the passengers for being on the bus. (Sincere apologies to Chuck Orloski for this simplistic analogy).

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  39. denk says:

    True to form, double digit comments , 50 max in any antiwar thread.
    Where’r the rest of murkkans ?

    Here,
    These are the threads that guarantee a full house !

    We took over North America , cuz the natives are so inferior,

    Blacks are so dumb , white colonisation was actually a godsend,

    If you think Blacks are dumb, wait till you see the Australian aborigines, its just as well that we brought civilisation there….

    They say murkkans learn their geography by the countries they are bombing, do you know how they learn their history, ?
    like so,,,,,..

    Stand D mute
    We whacked 20k chinks in the opium war,
    [he didnt mention the billions who became zombies after the opium invasion]

    Our buddies, the Jps also managed to whack 100M chinks in ww2….

    So,
    They learn history by the number of unpeople they whacked in a particular year and place….

    Then there’r these assholes ??

    Renfro
    Fuck the Chinese [sic]

    Just some guy
    Bomb the Chinese back to the stone age.
    [seems to be WTS fav sport, bombing unpeople back to stone age]

    Worth special mention is that gt creep, UNZ resident sinophobe,.
    You wouldnt find him in any antiwar thread.

    This is just the tip of an iceberg and Im talking on UNZ alone, there’s an army of WTS out there.

    Im fully aware of the inordinate influence of Aipac etc on murkkan foreign policy, especailly in the ME, bUT ……

    Guess what ?
    fukusI has more than its fair share of WTS shock troops who are fully capable and ready to genocide the unpeople and take over their land….with or without the tribe !

    Moral of the story…..

    While its correct to point out the zionists control, lets not forget TPTB is a wasp/zio/indians triumvariate; !

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    Stand D mute
    We whacked 20k chinks in the opium war


    We who? America wasn't in the Opium War. Either of them.
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  40. Isn’t keeping a few thousand troops in Syria justifiable as trying to show the Kurds they are not the latest of American friends to be abandoned lightly?

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  41. Logan says:
    @Giuseppe

    What exactly should we call the enterprise in which U.S. forces have been engaged all these years? The term that George W. Bush introduced back in 2001, “Global War on Terrorism,” fell out of favor long ago. Nothing has appeared to replace it. A project that today finds U.S. forces mired in open-ended hostilities across a broad expanse of Muslim-majority nations does, I suggest, deserve a name...
     
    It's got a name, the Crusades, signifying something that has been crossed, like the Rubicon, or the point of no return.

    In what way were the Crusades then, or the whatever we want to call it today, a Rubicon or point of no return?

    The Crusades did not remain a permanent feature, they just fizzled out over a couple of centuries.

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    The Crusades did not remain a permanent feature, they just fizzled out over a couple of centuries.
     
    That was just a hiatus.

    In what way were the Crusades then, or the whatever we want to call it today, a Rubicon or point of no return?
     
    Because it's archetypal. I happened to be in a Catholic service for a baptism the Sunday after W's hostilities began in Iraq, and the priest prayed for our troops in their war against "the Moslems."
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  42. Logan says:
    @denk
    True to form, double digit comments , 50 max in any antiwar thread.
    Where'r the rest of murkkans ?

    Here,
    These are the threads that guarantee a full house !

    We took over North America , cuz the natives are so inferior,

    Blacks are so dumb , white colonisation was actually a godsend,

    If you think Blacks are dumb, wait till you see the Australian aborigines, its just as well that we brought civilisation there....
     
    They say murkkans learn their geography by the countries they are bombing, do you know how they learn their history, ?
    like so,,,,,..

    Stand D mute
    We whacked 20k chinks in the opium war,
    [he didnt mention the billions who became zombies after the opium invasion]

    Our buddies, the Jps also managed to whack 100M chinks in ww2....
     
    So,
    They learn history by the number of unpeople they whacked in a particular year and place....

    Then there'r these assholes ??

    Renfro
    Fuck the Chinese [sic]

    Just some guy
    Bomb the Chinese back to the stone age.
    [seems to be WTS fav sport, bombing unpeople back to stone age]

    Worth special mention is that gt creep, UNZ resident sinophobe,.
    You wouldnt find him in any antiwar thread.
     
    This is just the tip of an iceberg and Im talking on UNZ alone, there's an army of WTS out there.

    Im fully aware of the inordinate influence of Aipac etc on murkkan foreign policy, especailly in the ME, bUT ......

    Guess what ?
    fukusI has more than its fair share of WTS shock troops who are fully capable and ready to genocide the unpeople and take over their land....with or without the tribe !

    Moral of the story.....

    While its correct to point out the zionists control, lets not forget TPTB is a wasp/zio/indians triumvariate; !

    Stand D mute
    We whacked 20k chinks in the opium war

    We who? America wasn’t in the Opium War. Either of them.

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  43. Giuseppe says:
    @Logan
    In what way were the Crusades then, or the whatever we want to call it today, a Rubicon or point of no return?

    The Crusades did not remain a permanent feature, they just fizzled out over a couple of centuries.

    The Crusades did not remain a permanent feature, they just fizzled out over a couple of centuries.

    That was just a hiatus.

    In what way were the Crusades then, or the whatever we want to call it today, a Rubicon or point of no return?

    Because it’s archetypal. I happened to be in a Catholic service for a baptism the Sunday after W’s hostilities began in Iraq, and the priest prayed for our troops in their war against “the Moslems.”

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  44. ““If Ben wanted to go and play for England there is absolutely nothing we can do about it, none of our players belong to us, they are not contracted to us.”

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