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Palestinians in Gaza should have been able to breathe a sigh of relief last week, as precarious ceasefire talks survived a two-day-long, heavy exchange of strikes that threatened to unleash yet another large-scale military assault by Israel.

Late on Tuesday, after the most intense bout of violence in four years, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Hamas, the Islamic movement that rules Gaza, approved a long-term truce brokered by Egypt.

Both are keen to avoid triggering an explosion of popular anger in Gaza, the consequences of which would be difficult to predict or contain.

The tiny enclave is on life support, having endured three devastating and sustained attacks by Israel, as well as a suffocating blockade, over the past decade. Thousands of homes are in ruins, the water supply is nearly undrinkable, electricity in short supply, and unemployment sky-high.

But as is so often the case, the enclave’s immediate fate rests in the hands of Israeli politicians desperate to cast themselves as Israel’s warmonger-in-chief and thereby reap an electoral dividend.

Elections now loom large after Avigdor Lieberman, Israel’s hawkish defence minister, resigned on Wednesday in the wake of the clashes. He accused Netanyahu of “capitulating to terror” in agreeing to the ceasefire.

Lieberman takes with him a handful of legislators, leaving the governing coalition with a razor-thin majority of one parliamentary seat. Rumours were rife over the weekend that another party, the ultra-nationalist Jewish Home, was on the brink of quitting the coalition.

In fact, Netanyahu recklessly triggered these events. He had smoothed the path to a truce earlier this month by easing the blockade. Fuel had been allowed into the enclave, as had $15 million in cash from Qatar to cover salaries owed to Gaza’s public-sector workers.

At this critical moment, Netanyahu agreed to a covert incursion by the Israeli army, deep into Gaza. When the soldiers were exposed, the ensuing firefight left seven Palestinians and an Israeli commander dead.

The two sides then upped the stakes: Hamas launched hundreds of rockets into Israel, while the Israeli military bombarded the enclave. The air strikes killed more than a dozen Palestinians.

Lieberman had reportedly expressed outrage over the transfer of Qatari money to Gaza, claiming it would be impossible to track how it was spent. The ceasefire proved the final straw.

Hamas leaders boasted that they had created a “political earthquake” with Lieberman’s resignation. But the shockwaves may not be so easily confined to Israel.

Strangely, Netanyahu now sounds like the most moderate voice in his cabinet. Fellow politicians are demanding Israel “restore its deterrence” – a euphemism for again laying waste to Gaza.

Naftali Bennett, the head of the settler Jewish Home party, denounced the ceasefire as “unacceptable” and demanded the vacant defence post.

There was flak, too, from Israel’s so-called left. The opposition Labour party leader Avi Gabbay called Netanyahu “weak”, while former prime minister Ehud Barak said he had “surrendered to Hamas under fire”.

Similar sentiments are shared by the public. Polls indicate 74 per cent of Israelis favour a tougher approach.

Sderot, close to Gaza and targeted by rockets, erupted into angry protests. Placards bearing the slogan “Bibi Go Home” – using Netanyahu’s nickname – were evident for the first time in his party’s heartland.

With this kind of goading, an election in the offing, and corruption indictments hanging over his head, Netanyahu may find it difficult to resist raising the temperature in Gaza once again.

But he also has strong incentives to calm things down and shore up Hamas’s rule.

The suggestion by some commentators that Netanyahu has turned a new leaf as a “man of peace” could not be more misguided. What distinguishes Netanyahu from his cabinet is not his moderation, but that he has a cooler head than his far-right rivals.

He believes there are better ways than lashing out to achieve his core political aim: the undermining of the Palestinian national project. This was what he meant on Wednesday when he attacked critics for missing “the overall picture of Israel’s security”.

On a practical level, Netanyahu has listened to his generals, who warn that, if Israel provokes war with Hamas, it may find itself ill-equipped to cope with the fallout on two other fronts, in Lebanon and Syria.

But Netanyahu has still deeper concerns. As veteran Israeli military analyst Ben Caspit observed: “The only thing more dangerous to Netanyahu than getting tangled up in war is getting tangled up in peace.”

The Israeli army has responded to months of largely non-violent mass protests at Gaza’s perimeter fence by killing more than 170 Palestinian demonstrators and maiming thousands more.

The protests could turn into an uprising. Palestinians storming the fence that imprisons them is an eventuality the Israeli army is entirely unprepared for. Its only response would be to slaughter Palestinians en masse, or reoccupy Gaza directly.

Netanyahu would rather bolster Hamas, so it can keep a lid on the protests than face an international backlash and demands that he negotiate with the Palestinians.

Further, a ceasefire that keeps Hamas in power in Gaza also ensures that Mahmoud Abbas and his Palestinian Authority, based in the West Bank, can be kept out.

That was in part why Netanyahu, against his normal instincts, allowed the transfer of the Qatari money, which had been opposed by the Palestinian Authority. It is not just a fillip for Hamas, it is a slap in the face to Abbas.

A disunited Palestine, divided territorially and ideologically, is in no position to exert pressure on Netanyahu – either through Europe or the United Nations – to begin peace talks or concede Palestinian statehood.

That is all the more pressing, given that the White House insists that President Trump’s long-delayed peace plan will be unveiled within the next two months.

Leaks suggest that the US may propose a separate “entity” in Gaza under Egyptian supervision and financed by Qatar. The ceasefire should be seen as a first step towards creating a pseudo-Palestinian state in Gaza along these lines.

Palestinians there are now caught between a rock and a hard place. Between vengeful hotheads such as Lieberman, who want more carnage in Gaza, and Netanyahu, who prefers to keep the Palestinians quiet and largely forgotten in their tiny prison.

A version of this article first appeared in the National, Abu Dhabi.

Jonathan Cook won the Martha Gellhorn Special Prize for Journalism. His books include “Israel and the Clash of Civilisations: Iraq, Iran and the Plan to Remake the Middle East” (Pluto Press) and “Disappearing Palestine: Israel’s Experiments in Human Despair” (Zed Books). His website is www.jonathan-cook.net.

 
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  1. JLK says:

    Leaks suggest that the US may propose a separate “entity” in Gaza under Egyptian supervision and financed by Qatar.

    Powerless entities like the Swiss banks and Qatar seem to end up paying for a lot of problems that were caused by better-connected groups that have plenty of money themselves.

    In any event, the Palestinians could have been relocated to brand new cities along the Euphrates a long time ago with two minivans in every garage for a fraction of what has been spent on “defense” in the Middle East.

  2. Trump’s recrudescent “2 state” plan will go nowhere. And

    Zion will rule in Palestine only so long as

    Zion rules America. This latter is, of course,

    the core problem.

    • Agree: Z-man, DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @renfro
  3. anarchyst says:
    @JLK

    Palestinians “relocated??” You’ve got to be kidding. Why don’t the ILLEGAL jewish “settlers” relocate themselves off of Palestinian-owned land??

    • Agree: Moi
    • Replies: @Momus
  4. @JLK

    ‘…In any event, the Palestinians could have been relocated to brand new cities along the Euphrates a long time ago with two minivans in every garage for a fraction of what has been spent on “defense” in the Middle East.’

    You’re a closet Zionist, aren’t you?

  5. Is there anyone who has any theory about Israel’s long term survival strategy ?
    Any idiot sees that Israel just exists through jewish political power in the USA, power that can disappear at any moment.
    Just some kind of Chrustjow speech about Stalin will do the trick, is my idea.
    There is only one strategy I can think of, creating through immigration so much strife in western societies on both sides of the Atlantic, that Muslims and (former) christians will destroy each other.
    But this strategy, if it exists, and if it has effect, will not give results within, say five years, my idea.
    On top of that, western and Muslim leaders may come to their senses, and wonder why they should mutually destroy each other.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  6. Z-man says:

    The Arab nation should be ashamed of itself. BDS!!!

    • Replies: @Justsaying
  7. “Both are keen to avoid triggering an explosion of popular anger in Gaza, the consequences of which would be difficult to predict or contain.”

    Defeating the Jewish occupation of Gaza can only be accomplished by defeating the Jewish occupation of the United States.

    To imply that the people of Gaza are not angry is the most ironic statement I’ve read all year.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  8. n230099 says:

    “Leaks suggest that the US may propose a separate “entity” in Gaza under Egyptian supervision and financed by Qatar.”

    “Leaks” is a bit inaccurate. Putting it back under Egyptian control has been posited as a possible solution for decades. The poor Gaza population need to be rid of the 7th century throwbacks that hold them back. Gaza has 20+ miles of Mediterranean coastline.

    Pro-tip: They ‘don’t make any more of that’! Hello!!!

    The whole ‘Israel’ thing is over. Israel’s not going to ‘go away’. Take the deal and catch up. The world is tired of the whining.

  9. Moi says:
    @JLK

    Jew or Zio? Maybe neither, but your hate is something to behold.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @JLK
  10. @jilles dykstra

    …that Muslims and (former) christians will destroy each other.

    Getting others to destroy themselves and one another has long been one of the key goals of international “diplomacy” and England was long a master of the game. They stirred up a lot of unnecessary strife and usually came out smelling like roses while their “friends” and foes alike, along with neutrals paid the price.

    You would no doubt be interested in Ernst zu Reventlow’s excellent summary of the matter in his “The Vampire of the Continent.”

    Translator’s Preface

    [The]book …cannot be too strongly recommended to all those who desire to obtain an insight into the hidden recesses of European political history, where the forces are at work which have shaped the evolution of Europe since about the middle of the sixteenth century…

    With rare penetration and skill does Count Reventlow show all such forces to find their synthesis in England’s Will to Power — to use an expression coined by Nietzsche — in England’s insatiable greed, in her limitless craving for the riches of this world.

    The center-point of European history during the last 350 years is to be found in London. It is here that have been spun all the threads of the countless political intrigues, the result of which has been to turn the palaces and cottages of Europe alike into shambles, her sunny fields and pastures into a desert deluged with human blood. And, meanwhile, the barns and granaries of England were filled with corn, her warehouses with goods of all descriptions from all corners of the globe; her factories and workshops poured forth their products with quadrupled energy; her warships prowled along the ocean highways, stealing all they could lay hands on, whether it belonged to friend or foe or neutral; and her trading vessels transported her manufactured articles to all countries, draining the wealth of the latter in exchange, and filling the pockets of the British merchant with gold.

    http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/reventlow/vampire_01.html

    Today the money bag crowd is unsurprisingly up to their same old antics, but under a couple of diffrent flags.

    • Replies: @Anon
  11. @n230099

    You never read Jabotinsky’s 1923 The Iron Wall ?
    He already understood that the Palestinians will never go away.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  12. Netanyahu’s Ceasefire Is Meant to Keep Gaza Imprisoned

    While providing the illusion that the bloody barrow is some sort of moderate.

  13. Talk about a game-changer, but wait until Hezbollah takes the Gaza Strip and it’s inhabitants under their protection, a move likely to occur within the next 5 years, despite desperate efforts being made by Israel to prevent Hezbollah forces in Syria from establishing a secure land corridor between Lebanon and Iran.

    • Replies: @Anon
  14. @n230099

    The world is tired of the whining.

    About “the” holocaust, for sure.

    You are also correct about “Israel” not going away because there will always be gangsters ruling large parts of the world whether they call themselves Israelis, the Brit Empire, the USA or something else.

  15. Hamas is a Mossad front organization ie a total creation of Israel to give Israel the excuse to bomb the hell out of Palestine and kill Palestinians. The Israelis have Hamas/Mossad bomb some empty desert and then Israel bombs the hell out of Palestine and kills Palestinians, a typical false flag which the Mossad is an expert at and even is involved in false flags here in the U.S.!

    An speaking of false flags , take a look at the Israeli/Zionist controlled deep state attack on the WTC on 911 which gave the U.S. ziocon deep state the excuse to go to war in the Mideast for Israel! Every thinking American knows that Zionist Israel and the ziocon deep state did 911 but the Zionists have such control over the U.S. government that none dare speak the truth!

    Israel and the Mossad and the Zionist controlled deep state are killers and that is what they do, they kill and destroy nations!

    • Agree: Them Guys
  16. anon[331] • Disclaimer says:
    @n230099

    70 yrs existence is a blip, an anachronism , a fluke. Now is the time to shrink Israel to the 1890 enclave settled by religious Jews . Rest find a new identity or country. ,

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  17. @VirtualAnon34

    Defeating the Jewish occupation of Gaza can only be accomplished by defeating the Jewish occupation of the United States.

    Bravo.

    And the answer, simultaneously, to every other major political problem on earth.

  18. @anon

    Rest find a new … country.

    Please God… No.

    • LOL: Z-man
  19. @jilles dykstra

    [Jabotinsky] already understood that the Palestinians will never go away.

    Other early Zionist leaders did as well and were condemned by “their own,” in typical fashion, for stating the obvious truth.

    “[the Zionists] wax angry towards those who remind them that there is still another people in Eretz Yisrael that has been living there and does not intend at all to leave its place. In a future when this illusion will have been torn from their hearts and they will look with open eyes upon the reality as it is, they will certainly understand how important this question is and how great our duty to work for its solution.”

    -Ascher Ginzberg aka Ahad Ha’am , Zionist leader (1914) As quoted in .. Kohn, Hans, “Ahad Ha’am: Nationalist with a Difference” in Smith, Gary (ed.): Zionism: The Dream and the Reality (New York, Harper and Row, 1974), pp. 31-32.

    He was condemned then and no one in power listens to his reasonable counsel even now. Go figure.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  20. Anon[766] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    You make the Count’s thesis sound a bit like painting England as an expanded successor to Venice and ahead of all those European primitives who thought violence should be used in wars to grab land when they weren’t, with ancient superstitious instincts, fighting over religion.

    Is Reventlow Catholic by any chance?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  21. Anon[766] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carroll Price

    Hezbollah might be able to give the IDF a bloody nose in Lebanon but how is it going to protect Gazans whether or not they are already under the supervision of Sunni Egypt? What good for the Gazans would it be for Hezbollah to start firing rockets into Israel for example? And how could Hezbollah fighters get into Gaza?

    • Replies: @Frankie P
  22. Clyde says:
    @n230099

    You got that right. Paleostinians are the world’s biggest complainers. Gaza has good rainfall for growing crops, so what do they do? When Israel pulls out of Gaza they strip, loot, destroy the extensive greenhouses the Jews left behind. As bad as Arafat was at least he held the show together. Now it’s pretty much anarchy in Gaza and the West Bank. What is Hamas but thieves with a religious fundamentalist bent. No Iranian money means no Hamas.

    • Troll: jacques sheete
  23. Z-man says:
    @Moi

    Moi, let me balance that hate out from JLK‘s post, I want to see a Zionist criminal executed ‘at a town square near you’ at least once a day for a year. (Devilish grin)

    • Agree: Moi
  24. @jacques sheete

    The zionist ideas began at a time where colonialism still wwas quite common, second half 19th century.
    At a 1858, from memory, Berlin conference, king Leopold of Belgium got the whole Congo for himself, not for Belgium.
    European countries at the time thought nothing about things like this, the people there did not matter.

    Herzl began his ‘back to Palestine’ movement in the same mood, the people in Palestine did not matter.
    Leopold is supposed to have killed, not personally, he never set foot there, some ten million in Congo, they had to deliver ivory and rubber to the Belgian colonists, or else.

    Had Israel been established around 1900, getting rid of the Palestinians would hardly have been a problem, I suppose, just ‘drive them out’, as Ben Gurion said in 1948 to Rabin and Allon, about the inhabitants of Lod and Ramle.
    The very existance of Palestinians was denied, ‘just Arabs’, or even ‘Arabs who came to Palestine to profit from the zionists, who gave them work’.

    Alas in 50 years time the world changed, colonalism was out, even the prize of the British empire, India, became independent.
    Had there not been a Hitler who deported jews, jews who were in large numbers holocaust survivors, and ‘deplaced persons’, not being able to go back to where they had lived, especially to then USSR territories, in my opinion there would never have been an Israel.
    Alas the zionists were unaware of the changed world, or made themselves believe that colonialism still was possible.

    Anyhow, the army that had been formed since 1939 began to fight,, drove out the British, then the Palestians, ‘just Arabs’, who could live anywhere.

    What zionists now believe, I do not know.
    Many of them, one sees that here, still believe zionist propaganda.

    What they never foresaw is that their colonialism would lead to a Palestinian population explosion, the 900.000 or so of 1948 now are four or five million.
    Just married men with children are allowed to work for zionists, just families get UN food aid.
    So they marry at fifteen.
    And so the problem gets bigger and bigger.

    I asked if anyoone had any idea about Israeli strategy towards Palestinians, no reply, my suspicion confirmed that no such strategy exists.
    At the same time, Israel more and more isolated in the world, as even Netanyahu admitted in the UN general assembly.

    And so, I fear, jews are heading towards a catastrophe in comparison with which the asserted holocaust will be peanuts.

    The signs can be seen anywhere, for example just now an article in the Amsterdam newspaper Parool, Amsterdam being the most jewish city in the Netherlands.
    The article is about what Hungarian people think of Soros, the open society man who wants migration, and how Hungarians think jewry meddles world wide in politics.
    Complaints about increasing antisemitism increase in whole Europe.

  25. @Anon

    Is Reventlow Catholic by any chance?

    I do not know if he was. He apparently was some sort of Christian, and for a brief time anti-Christian, then back to “Christianity,” so who knows? He probably never knew himself!

    If you read his book, you’d probably agree that he made a good case that England was “an expanded successor to Venice and ahead of all those European primitives who thought violence should be used in wars to grab land when they weren’t, with ancient superstitious instincts, fighting over religion.”

    It was an empire in the mold of many others besides Venice, but the religion was money and the empire was on steroids.

  26. @Clyde

    Paleostinians are the world’s biggest complainers.

    I suppose you think they invented the word, “kvetch” as well.

    • Troll: Clyde
    • Replies: @Clyde
  27. Clyde says:
    @jacques sheete

    OK so you are a fab Paleo fan boi. Nothing wrong with that.

  28. OK so you are a fab Paleo fan boi. Nothing wrong with that.

    Better that than one of Bibi’s butt boyz.

  29. @JLK

    you do not like to be reminded about 2006 i bet.

  30. JLK says:
    @Moi

    Neither. But Israel isn’t going anywhere, and it’s time to give the Palestinians a better future.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  31. @n230099

    nah, the only whining “the world” is tired off is yours and your fellow npc zionists. The brave Palestinian voices give us only hope that YOU and your owners are soon gone. The zionist entity occupying Palestine showed its “strenght” in 2006, since that every sane thinking human have rejoiced in the knowledge that the killers of children have no future in the world.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  32. mcohen says:

    Paleostinians has been nominated to the 2018 camel awards for “word of the year”.Runner up is “khaleosoggy” a type of hummus dip.

  33. Agent76 says:

    November 23, 2018 Evacuation of 700 Palestinians from their Homes in Occupied East Jerusalem Approved by Israeli Court

    The eviction efforts are a clear manifestation of Israel’s policies toward Palestinians living in Jerusalem.

    http://imemc.org/article/evacuation-700-jerusalemites-from-silwan-approved-by-israeli-court/

    Nov 3, 2018 The Lobby – USA, episode 1

    Episode 1: The Covert War. This video is posted here for news reporting purposes.

  34. Frankie P says:
    @Anon

    You’re guilty of old think: Hezbollah does not fire “rockets”. Hezbollah fires guided missiles, accurate guided missiles. Have you seen the video of the Israeli naval vessel from 2006? Have you seen the Israelis close down the ammonia plant in Haifa after Nasrallah mentioned that it was a target? They are aware that the next exchange with Hezbollah will be extremely costly to Israel. Perhaps direct missile attacks on Dimona? I imagine that Hezbollah will infiltrate fighters into Gaza the same way they do everything these days: slowly, deliberately, with the most advanced planning possible, contingency plans made for every unfolding situation.

    Frankie P

  35. @Clyde

    The Israelis blew up everything they left behind. You know that. But you cannot help yourself, can you?

    • Replies: @Clyde
  36. renfro says:

    What should have been done in 48 immediately after the Jew invasion —-that might have been accepted by the Arab States since they knew they could fight the US over Israel —was for Saudi (King Abdullah at the time) to have declared Palestine a ‘protectorate state’ of Saudi……that would have held off the US, who was still dependent on Saudi oil at that time…..and would have kept Israel within the borders of UN Res 108 and not have allowed Israel to confiscate and take more land.

    I can’t imagine why this was not done, there was no way the US or Britain could have prevented Saudi from declaring Palestine their protectorate.

  37. renfro says:
    @Clyde

    When Israel pulls out of Gaza they strip, loot, destroy the extensive greenhouses the Jews left behind

    It makes my visits here worth while when I can expose a punk liar like Clyde.

    The Jewish settlers themselves destroyed their green houses rather then leave them for Palestines….typical jew hate and pettiness…but then what do we expect from the world’s ultimate whinners and theives.

    The ‘looting’ done was Palestines trying to save for reuse materials from the ‘destroyed’ green houses.
    The Palestines , not being filthy parasite Jews, raised donations thru Wolfensohn at the UN to purchase the greenhouses.

    The settlers kept destroying some even after being bought.

    Israeli Settlers Demolish Greenhouses and Gaza Jobs - The New York …

    https://www.nytimes.com/…/israeli-settlers-demolish-greenhouses-and-gaza-jobs.html

    Jul 15, 2005 – JERUSALEM, July 14 – About half the greenhouses in the Israeli settlements in Gaza have already been dismantled by their owners, who have

    Wolfensohn Deal

    https://www.justvision.org/glossary/wolfensohn-deal

    ”In August 2005, James Wolfensohn, UN special envoy to oversee Israel’s Gaza Disengagement, arranged for the purchase and transfer of about 1,000 greenhouses from Jewish Israeli settler ownership to the Palestinian Authority. Wolfensohn, a former World Bank president, offered $500,000 of his own money for the deal, while a consortium of wealthy Americans covered the remaining $13.5 million. Though the greenhouses were expected to be a key factor in the Gaza Strip’s recovery after Israel’s disengagement in August 2005, up to 50% of them had been at least partly dismantled by the settlers themselves before the disengagement.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Clyde
  38. “…killing more than 170 Palestinian demonstrators and maiming thousands more.” The Israelis are protecting their border from the low IQ quadroon, octoroon Muslim Palestinians who want to destroy Israel. I hope to see 170 dead and thousands wounded on our southern border when the caravan illegals try to crash the border.

    Israel stays because I want all Jews in the West to go to Israel. We need a place for them and they have one. The Muslim Palestinians in Gaza or the West Bank can move to Jordan. King Abdullah is married to a Palestinian so the Palestinians have their country.

    As usual, the insane anti-Semites, cucks married to Asian females and trad Catholics are posting their insane comments. They refuse to deal with reality. They refuse to deal with the fact that it is the Roman Catholic Church and the Christian Zionists who are behind our problems in the Middle East and the USA.

    Here’s a fascinating article about what Jews want Christians to do: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6421233/Jewish-leaders-call-religious-texts-carry-warnings-highlighting-anti-Semitic-passages.html

    The Jews want warnings placed on the New Testament and Koran. I want to see the Western Christian males state that today’s Jews are not the chosen and are not related to the Jews of the Old Testament or when Jesus lived. I want them to state that Islam is a Christian heresy and that the Koran is a farrago, dog’s breakfast of Arab pagan beliefs, quotes from the Old Testament, and hearsay writings about Christianity. Let’s start with this so we can save the West.

    • Replies: @Druid
  39. renfro says:
    @n230099

    The whole ‘Israel’ thing is over. Israel’s not going to ‘go away’.

    Yea that’s what Jews tell themselves. But history is a better guide to predictions on Jewish things.

    How many explusions?…100 some.
    How long have Jews had a bad reputation and been despised? ….2000, 3000 years?
    How many Jews in the universe?…..15 million
    How many ‘others”………………………1.7 billion.

    How many “friends” does Israel have other than US politicians?
    What happens when the number of people around the world who condemn and despise Israel grows larger and larger every year?

    Yea…..the Jews and Israel will fall again as they always have……probably sooner then we expect judging by public opinion on Israel and the growing anti Israel sentiment in the US public and populations abroad.

    I doubt there will be any help or sympathy for them when they crash this time.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  40. renfro says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    The retards still supporting Trump must be Jew and Israel lovers…..of all the previous presidents on Israel Trump is the worst….he is a whore for his rich Jews and has no balls.

    ”Donald Trump’s shocking statement Tuesday giving the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia a pass …..https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-standing-saudi-arabia/ on the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi was titled “America First!” but twice mentioned Israel’s interests, saying Israel needs to have the US “remain a steadfast partner of Saudi Arabia.” The statement also parroted Israeli talking points by identifying Iran as the leading malefactor in the world. As if Hezbollah and Hamas are threats to the U.S.
    Trump’s use of Israel’s interests to deflect criticism of his indifference to the murder was noted with concern by the Israeli press: as an embarrassment to Israel, which Benjamin Netanyahu had brought on himself by adopting the same line as Trump.
    But our press is in the business of downplaying Israel’s influence, so it largely ignored the Israel angle.

    Commentators were quick to say that Trump had grossly inflated the amount of money the Saudi relationship is worth to the United States, though no one was pointing out what Trump’s ferociously pro-Israel policies have been worth to him: the generosity of three billionaires, chief among them Sheldon Adelson and wife Miriam, who have given some $150 million to Republican campaigns in the last 3 years or so. And by the way, Miriam received the presidential medal of freedom last week, along with Elvis and Babe Ruth and Alan Page

  41. renfro says:

    Jews shoot women and children and unarmed men and bulldoze refugee camps.

    ‘Waging War on Shufat’: Jerusalem municipality demolishes 21 businesses in East Jerusalem refugee camp
    Israel/Palestine
    Yumna Patel on November 22, 2018

    On Wednesday afternoon Israeli authorities from the Jerusalem Municipality, accompanied by police forces, entered into the Shufat refugee camp in occupied East Jerusalem and began demolishing Palestinian storefronts in the camp.
    By the time authorities left, some 18 clothing, grocery, and bakery shops and three gas stations had been bulldozed to the ground, according to locals. Some of the shops had been standing for more than a decade.
    At least 21 storefronts were demolished on Wednesday (Photo: Ma’an News Agency)
    The demolitions are the latest action taken by the municipality inside Shufat, as part of the city’s new policy of extending the reach of municipal enforcement to Palestinian refugee camps in East Jerusalem, in order to end the presence of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) in Jerusalem and eventually shut down all its services

  42. @JLK

    But Israel isn’t going anywhere…

    Depends on which Israel we’re talking about. The Zionist revolution has been co-opted, and any decent Israeli aspirations have already left the building, but no one has to take just my word for it.

    The Zionist revolution has always rested on two pillars: a just path and an ethical leadership. Neither of these is operative any longer. The Israeli nation today rests on a scaffolding of corruption, and on foundations of oppression and injustice. As such, the end of the Zionist enterprise is already on our doorstep. There is a real chance that ours will be the last Zionist generation. There may yet be a Jewish state here, but it will be a different sort, strange and ugly.

    -Avraham Burg, A Failed Israeli Society Collapses While Its Leaders Remain Silent

    Avraham Burg was speaker of Israel’s Knesset from 1999 to 2003 and is a former chairman of the Jewish Agency for Israel. He is currently a Labor Party Knesset member.

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=1144

  43. @renfro

    It makes my visits here worth while when I can expose a punk liar like Clyde.

    And comments like yours make my visits here worthwhile as well, and thanks for them. Funny how the stinking liars think they’ll get away with their BS forever. I hope they do keep trying, however.

  44. Druid says:
    @attilathehen

    Wow, have you tried lithium for your psychiatric condition

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  45. Clyde says:
    @ploni almoni

    The Israelis blew up everything they left behind. You know that. But you cannot help yourself, can you?

    They did not blow up the greenhouses….These were left intact for the Paleostinians. But yer Paleos stripped and thieved from them so they were non-useable. Taking glass, copper and anything valuable and sellable.

  46. Clyde says:
    @renfro

    Mondo Refrongo…. show you are not a demented liar. The greenhouses were left 100% intact when Israel left Gaza. This truth is all over the internet because this truth was obvious when it took place.

    • Replies: @renfro
  47. @Druid

    I don’t recall your name. Which category of cucked males are you in?

    Did you see Steve Sailer’s latest post about the southern border? Tear gas was used. Excellent.

  48. @Z-man

    A “nation” that is becoming more fragmented than ever. Many individual members are easily bought by Saudi Arabia’s endless reserves of cash. Recent protests in Tunisia, a key initiator of the “Arab Spring” opposing the visit of KSA’s crown prince, MBS, will likely be brushed aside. Rather, the Tunisian government will be compensated handsomely to lend legitimacy to this murderer. Any state willing to jump on the “Iranian and Hezbollah terror threats” bandwagon and dance to the tune of Anglo-Zio-KSA axis of evil will be richly rewarded. Indeed, recruits by the axis of evil in the ME are growing at a phenomenal rate, with the Arab “nation” selling itself out ever more cheaply. Gaza Palestinians – whose courage in facing up to Israel despite the odds being so heavily stacked against them is beyond incredible. But they are largely on their own.

    • Agree: Z-man
  49. @renfro

    Should the truth about 9/11 ever become widespread in the US no amount of lobbying, bribes or blackmail will staunch the anger or retribution.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  50. @NoseytheDuke

    The truth about Pearl Harbour is out since 1946, the Senate investigation.
    What did happen ?
    Nothing.
    The Liberty truth is out since a long time, what did happen ?
    The Ton Kin Gulf truth is out also since a long time;
    How Bush sr financed Saddam illegally and secretly through USA agrarian subsidies, long known, what happens ?
    In Britain, after a seven years investigation Tony Blair blamed for the Iraq war; is he behind bars, not al all, his fortune is estimated at £ 60 million.
    Kissinger illegally had Cambodia bombed, 300.000 casualties, is he in prison ?
    Churchill and/or FDR ordered the bombing of Dresden, no military objective whatsoever; what happened to them ?
    And Sept 11, does not any interested person by now know that the Bush story is nonsense ?

  51. renfro says:
    @Clyde

    well …… as I posted the Jew York Times even reported that settlers destroyed the green houses……if the NYT reports something bad about Israel then you know its a truth that has been verified and cant be covered up.

    here…have a banana little monkey troll…lol

  52. A123 says:

    Gaza could have had decent quality water, but the pipe to maintain the water supply was diverted to missile bodies.

    Gaza could have had decent sewer systems, but the concrete to support the system was diverted to assault tunnels.

    Gaza could have had decent hospitals and clinics, but they were used as “human shields” to protect missile launches.

    Gaza could have had decent medical equipment, but the helium needed to run the gear was diverted to arson attack balloons.

    Bottom line — The violent people of Gaza are responsible for the conditions in Gaza .

    _____

    The aquifer system has been permanently damaged. Desalination is expensive, fragile, and requires a large amount of reliable electricity in a 24/7 basis. So, there is no chance that Gaza will be able to provide sufficient fresh water to meet the needs of its population, 2.5 million and growing. The best that could happen are stop gaps such as ship based units, the Turkish military has a few.

    It may not happen this year, but the inevitable reality of the water situation means that in the long term the bulk of the Muslim population of Gaza must migrate to another Muslim land that believes in the “Pillar of Charity”.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @jilles dykstra
  53. Art says:
    @A123

    Bottom line — The violent people of Gaza are responsible for the conditions in Gaza .

    Oh sure’ the Jew blames the victim of the worst situation on our Earth.

    Once again, we see what a lack of empathy that beats in the Jew psyche.

    Once again, we see what a lack of honesty there is in the Jew culture.

    Once again, we see the pathological reaction of the Jew to those they harm.

    Once again, we must seek solutions!

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  54. @A123

    ” but the inevitable reality of the water situation means that in the long term the bulk of the Muslim population of Gaza must migrate to another Muslim land that believes in the “Pillar of Charity”. ”
    or
    ” but the inevitable reality means that in the long term the bulk of the jewish population of Israel must migrate to another land that believes in the “Pillar of Charity”. ”

    In 1954, after 130 years of colonialism, the French, many, 600.000, among them jews, were driven out of Algeria.
    Alistair Horne, ‘A savage war of peace, Algeria 1954-1962’, 1972, 2002, New York

    • Replies: @A123
  55. A123 says:
    @jilles dykstra

    JD, I think you do not understand the meaning of the word “Inevitable”.

    Israel has hundreds possibly thousands of nuclear weapons. There is no rational reason to believe that a 2nd Exodus of the Jewish people is inevitable. If Islam behaves irrationally and tries to expel them, millions of Muslims will die in the failed attempt.
    ______

    On the other hand… In an ecological system the population is inevitably limited to a maximum determined by the least abundant resource.

    Thus basic science shows the lack of fresh water will inevitably lead to a decrease in the population of Gaza. A departure of Muslims to return to their historical homelands seems the most likely option. I suppose there are other less humane options that Muslims could inflict on their fellow Muslims.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  56. anarchyst says:
    @A123

    A123, there is a flaw in your statement: “A departure of Muslims to return to their historical homelands seems the most likely option” is dead wrong. The Palestinians ARE “home” in their “historical homeland”. It is the ashkenazic jew interlopers who must be removed…

  57. wraith67 says:

    I can’t seem to shed a tear for people that show their kids terrorist Sesame Street. The “palestinian” refugee camps in Jordan are guarded by the Jordanian army and there’s a wall between Gaza and Egypt which is guarded by the Egyptian army. I wonder why.

  58. Momus says:
    @anarchyst

    Less and less chance of that as the Palestinians are outflanked by Bibi’s initiatives in the Arab/Muslim world.

    The Israelis are making great headway diplomatic without any West Bank concessions at all.

    The caravan is moving on and the Palestinians are barking dogs.

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