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See also: VDARE.com’s James Kirkpatrick, Conservatism Inc. And The Holocaust Of The Alt Right

Conservatism Inc. grifters are on the defensive as passionate, educated, and brave young Christians, nationalists, and patriots are confronting them at their campus events. Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh, Rep. Dan Crenshaw and others are being bombarded with questions about immigration and the double standards of identity politics. Conservatism Inc. is responding to this grassroots, spontaneous movement the same way it always does–with demands for censorship, purges, and centralized control. Yet the scam is exposed for all to see. New leaders are emerging, ready to transform the American Right into a force truly representing the Historic American Nation.

Conservatism Inc.” is the parasitic network of nonprofits, phony activist organizations, and outright scam operations masquerading as a movement that I target in my new compilation Conservatism Inc: The Battle for the American Right. It’s mostly my VDARE.com columns but includes never-before published material that defines and analyzes how this controlled opposition works.

The most poisonous way it works: taking idealistic young campus conservatives and forcing them to parrot meaningless slogans about the glories of neoliberalism and big business. Such nonsense is irrelevant to the lived experience of young (and mostly white) campus conservatives, who are confronted with radical anti-white politics, corporate censorship, and the ruinous cost of family formation. Preaching about tax cuts for the rich and bragging about anti-racism is utterly hollow to these young Americans who see their country being dismantled.

Not surprisingly, Conservatism Inc. has a long tradition of purging those who want to ask intelligent questions about race, immigration, and the real nature of politics. As a direct result, “the movement” is filled with a combination of cynical con-artists possessed of a certain low cunning and outright fools who implode when they meet with serious opposition. Additionally, this “movement” has completely failed to reach young people because conservatism’s slogans are irrelevant to what we face. An astonishing 70 percent of millennials now say they would vote for an avowed socialist candidate [70% of millennials say they’d vote for a socialist. 5 facts about their debt-saddled economic situation tell you why. By Hillary Hoffower, Business Insider, November 1, 2019].

By any standard, Conservatism Inc. is an unfathomable failure.

Unless the point is to lose.

Which, of course, it is. Conservative Inc.’s purpose is to keep the American Right corralled and thwart a successful populist movement. Defeat is preferable to a success the bipartisan Establishment can’t control. Meanwhile, individuals within the “movement” personally profit while they manage the decline. By purging nationalists, Conservatism Inc. ensures there is no competition.

Thus, the Beltway Right operates in de facto partnership with antifa and journofa to make sure those with careers in Conservatism Inc. recycle the same stale talking points about tax cuts, Israel, “free markets,” and “anti-socialist” talking points that compare Norway to North Korea. Dissenters are purged if they even appear in a photograph with the wrong person [Ashley St. Clair and the Bankruptcy of Conservatism Inc. by Gregory Hood, American Renaissance, October 11, 2019]

Consider those who are promoted by Conservatism Inc. today—mote notably Congressman Dan Crenshaw (TX-2), who is clearly being positioned as the next John McCain.

When asked about H.R. 1044, the Treason Lobby’s latest drive to dispossess Middle America by importing a Leftist Indian Overclass, Congressman Crenshaw complains about those who think whites will someday be a minority, calling it “nonsense” and saying “we aren’t identity politicians.”

He’s right of course–“identity politicians” win, which is why Texas will soon be a blue state, and “American” only in name.

At another appearance, Crenshaw also dismissed concerns about mass non-white immigration changing the electorate.

Again, Crenshaw is simply not giving a serious answer. The last GOP Congresssman from Occupied Houston, he’ll soon be displaced just like California Republicans were.

Crenshaw was asked his opinion of the “anti-white policy known as Affirmative Action.” Incredibly, he denied that it hurts whites and said that it’s anti-black. Needless to say, blacks don’t think so.

Finally, consider Crenshaw’s response to a question about whether a law that prohibits “anti-Semitism” and conflates it with criticism of Israel is a violation of the First Amendment. Crenshaw, chillingly, accused the his student questioner of “cloaking yourself in the First Amendment” to engage in “vehement anti-Semitism” [Dan Crenshaw Suggests Criticism of Israel is Not Protected Under the First Amendment, by Paul Joseph Watson, SummitNews, November 5, 2019]

To take another example, listen to Matt Walsh at Young America’s Foundation/Young Americans for Freedom. He flatly denied that anti-white bias exists.

Not surprisingly, the Matt Walsh Q&A stream was reportedly set to private so no one could watch it.

But other brave students are asking questions at Conservatism Inc. events. This effort is spontaneous and decentralized. However, Nick Fuentes, the funny, charismatic, and Catholic host of the America First YouTube show, has become a de facto spokesperson for it. Which means he’s also Conservatism Inc.’s current target.

Since 2016, many of the figures who powered the populist movement that elected Donald Trump have been doxed, deplatformed, or cut off from financial support. James Allsup, who had half a million subscribers, recently lost his platform on YouTube (though he’s re-emerged at TheRightStuff). Now, they’re coming for Fuentes [Charlie Kirk has finally had it with these white nationalists in his movement, by Zachary Petizzo, The Daily Dot, November 5, 2019].

Former Trump Administration official and current fish oil salesman Sebastian Gorka has been especially active in demanding Fuentes lose his “verified” Twitter checkmark, if not his account.

Of course, Gorka himself has been accused of being in a “Nazi-linked” group and his mother was reportedly a translator for David Irving [Sebastian Gorka Made Nazi-Linked Vitezi Rend ‘Proud’ by Wearing Its Medal, by Alexander Smith and Vladimir Banic, NBC News, April 8, 2017]. (Gorka also briefly lost his own YouTube account for “copyright infringement” [YouTube bans former White House adviser Sebastian Gorka for copyright infringement, by Mike Brest, Washington Examiner, November 5, 2019]).

And his is the problem with Conservatism Inc. calling for deplatforming; all the same arguments can and will be made against them. Gorka is just one example of how conservatives find it impossible to respond to charges of “racism,” “sexism,” “homophobia,” or other made up sins. They accept the Left’s premises and desperately throw potential allies in between them and the commissars, hoping to be eaten last. I would not be surprised if Gorka does end up denouncing his own mother.

Because of Conservatism Inc. cowardice, the Left has total control over the culture and even the American Right. It can dictate who is and is not allowed a job and a platform. It has absolute domination of American higher education. The fact that faux rightists like Walsh complain that “trolls” are upsetting conservative messaging on college campuses is self-discrediting. If Conservatism Inc. operated like one of those “private enterprises” it loves so much, its failure on campuses would ensure it was long since out of business.

If conservatives want to win, they need to treat the right to free speech online as an “existential issue,” as an excellent American Mind piece recently observed [The Flight 93 Election Crashed, by Hunter Hearns, October 31, 2019]. It also needs to be a principled defense. Even if you don’t agree with Fuentes, or Allsup, or anyone else, they still have a right to be online and to use basic services.

Yet we know Conservatism Inc. won’t defend free speech—because if it did, it would lose its hold over its own constituency. Conservatism Inc. serves as useful controlled opposition for the Left but can’t withstand a sustained challenge from the nationalist Right. If America is to live, it must expel the Conservatism Inc. parasite.

The fact that students are independently organizing, executing, and promoting these de facto raids on Conservatism Inc. events is immensely encouraging. It’s also insanely brave, considering that journalists, Conservatism Inc. operatives, and antifa will all be gunning for them. This courage is inspirational.

And there are other reasons for cheer. The fact that even “mainstream” conservative publications are now using the Dissident Right term “Conservatism Inc.” is promising [The Downfall of Conservatism Inc., by Greg Jones, Human Events, November 4, 2019]. When the Establishment is trying to co-opt a term, it means that it is afraid. Conservatism’s sterile, economics-only orthodoxy failed to prevent America’s cultural and demographic collapse. We need a new movement, because America’s time is running out. These young patriots are showing the way forward. We should be proud and stand with them.

James Kirkpatrick [Email him] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc. Kirkpatrick is the author of Conservatism Inc: The Battle for the American Right, available at at Arktos Publishing or Barnes & Noble.

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  1. El Dato says:

    We are the point where someone who is accused of being a NAZI (vehement, semi-antitic or otherwise) is quite likely the person in the room who is interesting and not hollowed-out and termite-inhabited.

    Well done.

    • Agree: Richard P, Henry Sulla
    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @bruce county
  2. An astonishing 70 percent of millennials now say they would vote for an avowed socialist candidate …

    I’m no millennial, but I’m ready to vote socialist, too … national socialist, that is.

    • Agree: neutral
  3. Patricus says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    From what I have read there was not much socialism in the National Socialism of 1930s Germany. The means of production was mostly privately owned. The companies were heavily regulated and Hitler established tariffs to benefit working people. Still, hardly socialism.

  4. Anonymous[382] • Disclaimer says:

    LOL This article is more controlled opposition than conservatism inc. And this conclusion can be reached by using this article’s own logic.

    Conservatism inc is controlled opposition because it doesn’t carry out its stated mission well. Well Mr.VDARE have you carried out your mission very well? If anything you are more marginal than conservatism inc. which must mean you two must be working together to strengthen the left.

    Thought you could get away with it Mr.Vdare?

    Also what the hell is Mr. Kirkpatrick’s definition of the right? Is it just caring about white demographics in the U.S? Seriously, in one line you seemed like you were on the verge of criticizing right-wing economic policy. Would denouncing those policies but remaining committed to reducing the amount of brown people in the U.S, still qualify you as a right-winger?

    Let us suppose all the brown people who came into the U.S ardently supported tax cuts, deregulation, limited government, Scalia interpretation of the constitution, ending the welfare state etc. Would the right-wing thing to do be to assert a right of conservative brown people to immigrate or would it be to stop all brown people from immigrating? The use of “left” and “right” as political adjectives is a mistake, and I am not the first one to say it. The question also goes to the heart of what is the problem with brown people immigrating. Is it that they vote economically left or is it that they are brown?
    If conservatism inc. is only concerned with economics and don’t assume that brown people are genetically leftist, then they would understandably have a problem with questions that make that assumption which conservatism inc. views as racist, and since they don’t make that assumption it has no bearing on future economic policy so it also irrelevant to conservatism inc. there might be genuine members of conservatism inc. who think VDARE is a false-flag trying to relate conservative economics with racism(as they view it) and thus spike conservatism inc.’s political reach.

    what I want to know is what is VDARE? Is it nationalist(although their definition of nation is limited to what they call the core american population, I am not saying I disagree I am just noting it) and capitalist and private property focused(low taxes, private infrastructure) or is it nationalist and community property focused(limits on private wealth, nationalized(lol) infrastructure); which direction does VDARE lean to?

    Mr. Kirkpatrick if you do reply to this comment can you do the favor of answering everything that ends with a question mark, except for the second question mark which is meant to be sarcastic.

    • Agree: Tusk
  5. renfro says:

    I regret I wasted time reading this. Tomorrow I will probably read something about Liberalism Inc. and regret that wasted time also.

    Both suck. People who cleave to either one double suck. People who write articles pushing either one triple suck. We should make all sucky people wear red or blue arm bands identifying their suckiness .

    • LOL: follyofwar
  6. Lot says:

    “ “Conservatism Inc.” is the parasitic network of nonprofits, phony activist organizations, and outright scam operations masquerading as a movement that I target in my new compilation Conservatism Inc: The Battle for the American Right. It’s mostly my VDARE.com columns but includes never-before published material that defines and analyzes how this controlled opposition works”

    How much has Brimelow received in salary and payments to his captive for-profit company from non-profit VDARE the past 10 years? $2 million?

    How much of this time was the site NOT running popups and banners begging for money saying they can barely pay the servers and are on the verge of shutting down?

  7. utu says:

    Charlie Kirk and Kochsucker Conservatism – E. Michael Jones

  8. 4justice says:
    @Anonymous

    As a Green, I am not concerned about which corporate party new immigrants will support.

    I am concerned that demographic transformation is being pushed on the US by people who do not want the same “improvement” for Israel such as Barbara Lerner Spectre, an American Jew who moved to Israel and now works to “educate” Europeans on “how to be multicultural” b/c as she says, “if Europe does not learn how to be multicultural is will not survive.” On what evidence is such a claim made? And doesn’t Israel need this advice from Barbara a lot more than Europe just now? Maybe people like Barbara who claim to want to help really just hate Europe and want to weaken it by making large pockets of groups that can be pitted against each other from the outside. Maybe that is what people like her want for the US. Perhaps the people who push the claim that “diversity is strength” with no proof or even any argument to back it up really just hate America and Americans. Perhaps they just want a more vulnerable, more exploitable work force and a society that is easy to set upon itself. Perhaps the people saying that the US should take in refugees and economic migrants in some kind of reparations for the abuses of the US government in foreign lands should stop demanding that the US interfere in foreign lands and destroy those places as the neocons do?

    Perhaps part of the attack on the Catholic Church is due to the fact that many of the values promoted by the teachings of the church and by Jesus Christ serve to protect people from such tricks of divide and conquer even down to the level of breaking up families (as well as from the bloodsucking industries of porn, gambling and addictive substances.)

    Whomever is really behind Conservative, Inc, they obviously care more about Israel than the US, so I am not so sure that spiking them is a bad thing. I feel the same way about Liberal, Inc. They both want to weaken the people of America and protect Israel from even free speech.

    I am inspired by the courage of people like Nick Fuentes and E Michael Jones who seem to be genuinely interested in improving the country and only fear God. Smears of racism and antisemitism can not be allowed to stop honest discussion about what is taking place in our society today. Sure, it is terrible that people resort to such smears, but look how Israel was founded – surely there are no qualms in the Jewish Zionist movement. But cowering to their abuse only empowers this sort of abuse. As one Jewish friend who is routinely accused of being antisemitic told me once ” there is no other way but through.” (He actually put up a billboard that said America First, Not Israel and it was removed after complaints.) Truth is more important and more powerful than smear if you really love the people of this country.

    Maybe we need God to to give us the courage to stand up to the demonic people who use people as pawns without a second thought, people like Barbara Lerner Spectre, John Bolton, Sheldon Adelson, George Soros, Bernie Marcus, Jeff Bezos, etc.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  9. @Patricus

    Hitler USED private enterprise. It (including the Capitalists) was always secondary to nationalistic goals. Further, the Nazi government directly employed millions of Germans.
    So, no not “traditionally” socialist, but definitely an interpretation of “socialism”.

  10. @Anonymous

    Your so-called analysis is predicated on unfounded assumptions by which you set up false dichotomies and fantasy hypotheticals. Instead, genetics > culture/religion > politics. It’s a hierarchy that must be considered in totality as the basis for personal identity and the extended family called a nation. If you discard any part, or try to consider it piecemeal, then identity is incomplete, and any conclusions drawn are erroneous. Along with this, as Kirkpatrick clearly noted (but which you conveniently ignored), a purely economic approach to societal issues is hollow, because it doesn’t come close to addressing those hierarchical values that are essential for identity and self-worth, both individually and as a nation.

    You can play hypothetical games all day long, as long as you ignore reality. There’s a reason most brown countries are essentially socialist, and it depends on the previously presented hierarchy. Populations with lower mean IQ’s and lower time preferences (genetics) will create inferior cultures, and will inevitably tend towards a socialist outlook in an attempt to assuage subliminal feelings of inferiority, envy and revenge. The easy solution is to drag everyone down to a lowest common denominator via force (politics), all of it rationalized with a veneer of egalitarian pseudo-morality.

    Your questions to Kirkpatrick are disingenous and/or deliberately confrontational. It’s an approach that is typical of trolls, leftists, and their useful idiots. Which one are you?

  11. Excellent analysis by Kirkpatrick. Conservatism, inc. has failed–perhaps intentionally.

    For a re-birth, the next generation of conservative leaders must put race, ‘anti-Semitism’ and immigration (all from a white perspective) at the top of their agenda. Tax cuts can wait.

    If America’s founding demographic is to be served and preserved, there is no other way forward. These are the key challenges we face. Time is of the essence.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan, Hail, Republic
    • Replies: @peterAUS
  12. gotmituns says:
    @4justice

    The Catholic church has been completely Judaized.

    • Replies: @4justice
    , @follyofwar
  13. A cogent article by Kirkpatrick, who has obviously swallowed the red pill and finally come to his senses. What he concluded about Conservatism Inc. also applies to cuckservatives and Republicans in general, as well as the “Intellectual Dark Web” that is nothing but controlled opposition peddled by the MSM.

    After the dust has settled, after all the conservative fakes are finally identified and called out for the traitors that they are, after the Manichean ‘progressives versus fascist Hitlers’ ploy has been exposed as the false dialectic it always was, then the inevitable result will be that the true alt-right remains standing holding the field. And of course, this is what scares the bejeezus out of the left and its useful idiots, because at that point they will know they have lost utterly.

  14. Eric135 says:

    Yes, conservatism means that whites get to be discriminated against, get to be made a minority in their own country, and Jews get to run everything. Did it ever mean anything else? That’s the question. John Jay celebrated the fact the United States at its founding consisted of people (white people) sharing a common cultural, racial and religious heritage from northwestern Europe. The first immigration law of 1790 limited citizenship to free whites. Only males could vote. The United States would avoid foreign entanglements. The new nation would control its own currency instead of letting outsiders or private bankers control it.

    The job of conservatives was to make sure those things didn’t change. Of course, they began changing immediately. The initial cultural changes had to do with religion. Protestant denominations in America were Judaized. The great enemy was Catholics. When Catholics came in the mid 1800’s — and large numbers of Jews in the late 1800’s — Catholics were seen as the greater threat. Jews played on Catholic resentments. It didn’t help that England persecuted the Irish, and the WASP establishment in America was English. Then there was the Civil War, started by abolitionists who based their ideas on scripture. Later, Jews allied themselves with blacks against whites. Now they ally themselves with anything that threatens white people who are not Jews.

    This is just a hint of the divisions that existed in America almost from the beginning. The American “melting pot” that never quite melted meant that conservatism would never work in America because there could be no agreement on what was worth conserving. Because there was no possibility of consensus, and because of the industrial revolution, it was inevitable that America would end up being an oligarchy — ruled by Rockefellers, Morgans and Jewish bankers — and an imperial power.

    Around 1900, the first major step was taken towards internationalism and globalization. The Spanish-American war and the seizures of Cuba, Puerto Rico, and the Philippines sealed the deal.

    America was now ready to sit at the table with the world’s greatest empire — Britain. Cecil Rhodes saw America’s oligarchs — along with Jewish bankers and industrialists who had married into the British aristocracy — as key partners in his John Ruskin-inspired quest for Zio-Anglo-Saxon world supremacy.

    So let’s fast forward to now. The world is run by an international Zio-garchy. America is a mere puppet for that globalist cabal and has been ever since Woodrow Wilson took office in 1913.

    To think of American politics as being capable of representing the interests of the American people as a whole — much less the non-Jewish white descendants of America’s founding fathers — is absurd.

    The politicians that parade their tawdry wares before us are quite simply paid clowns. And the great majority of the American public lacks the education — and in many cases the interest — to know what’s going on, much less do anything about it.

    Those of us who see the disaster coming — South Africa/Rhodesia, Part II — are white nationalists who hope that a civil war will make possible the breakup of America into ethnostates so that white children will have a future.

    • Disagree: tac
    • Replies: @dickr
    , @tac
  15. @Anonymous

    Let us suppose all the brown people who came into the U.S ardently supported tax cuts, deregulation, limited government, Scalia interpretation of the constitution, ending the welfare state etc. Would the right-wing thing to do be to assert a right of conservative brown people to immigrate or would it be to stop all brown people from immigrating?

    If “brown people” believed/did all of the above democrats would have already built a double border wall thrice the height of the Great Wall, with machine gun towers every 50 feet, millions of landmines and patrolled by Apache gunships, tanks and rocket-firing drones.

    Americans up till (and beyond) 1965 never asked for a radical shift in immigration policy, and (((those responsible))) and their cuck allies who changed the law knew it, because they used fat drunkard manslaughterer teddy kennedy as the White Irish “face” of the new demographic death sentence, er, immigration law.

    The question also goes to the heart of what is the problem with brown people immigrating. Is it that they vote economically left or is it that they are brown?

    If you think this is some kind of ‘gotcha’ question you don’t know the good folks at Unz. Speaking only for myself, I don’t want non-Europeans here in any significant numbers, 100 years ago we got all the diversity we could eat from Europe alone, diversity that could and did assimilate, unlike today when assimilation is actually fought against.

    Democracy is a racial headcount, and as mexifornia proves, “brown people,” can only reproduce the same third world/failed state conditions they fled. Despite whatever cyborgs might be walking around in 2050, a Mexican-dominated USA will no longer be the USA.

    China, India or Africa’s mindless billions could overwhelm us overnight, turning all of North America into a crappy “Part 2” of their countries/continent.

    Don’t need, don’t want.

    WE’RE FULL.

  16. Rahan says:

    Remember:
    1) it took Eastern Europe a decade (1990-2000) to undo 45 years of communism, and regain functional normality by local terms.
    2) and it took Russia also a decade (1992-2002) to undo 70 years of communism, and regain functional normality by local terms.

    All it takes is willpower, discipline, smarts, and conviction.

    • Agree: Richard P
  17. DR3 says:

    Owen Benjamin is destroying these guys, particularly Shapiru and Kirk.

  18. Big Daddy says:

    Look, the Left has seized most institutions that were set up by the fascist Pietists since the early 19th century.

    Want a quote? Samuel L. Blumenfeld from his majestic Is Public Education Necessary? The Universalists were the first degenerates from the totalitarian Puritans. 1817: “If we can just get children away from their parents at age 2 we can create a whole new race of people.”

    Leftists have always and ever been perverts and power crazed maniacs. 1817!

    F… Conservatism. Read Rothbard and free yourself. We live in the Brave New World now!

    It is a fight to the death. If civilization loses there will be billions of deaths.

  19. DanFromCT says:

    Fox News takes the faux conservative prize. You have to hand it to them. They’ve successfully encapsulated the Israeli-first meme in flag-waving jingoism and that C&W shtick straight from Times Square. Judaized CUFI’s can’t get enough of it, to the point they send their sons and daughters to die and be maimed for the Yinon Plan. Oy vey, it’s too easy, right? Wave the flag and CUFI’s swallow the rest whole. Did you hear the one about “Shep” and his “husband” in the hot tub after work? Forget about it.

    What about America’s putative men who no longer even notice they’re being preached to by women on TV news? That makes us all emasculo-feminists now and it didn’t even hurt, did it? Or how about Fox News being one arm of an entertainment outfit that is provably responsible for introducing the worst sexual depravity into children’s programming—even more so than ABC. But that’s OK because Fox News waves the flag.

    As for successful mind control, I can’t think of more obvious example than little fatso Sean Hannity, who’s probably been more responsible than anyone for sending young Americans to die and be maimed for Israel—so good Jewish boys need not. What a whore. On one show he and Ann Coulter waxed orgasmic over having Netanyahu simultaneously serve as president of this country. Fox has also recently appointed Paul Ryan to its board of directors, which should be proof enough of Fox’ coming shift leftward and it’s moving more openly against traditional America.

  20. Donald Trump is enthusiastically importing the Democratic Party Voting Bloc from China and India….LEGALLY…..How do you feel about this?….

  21. @animalogic

    Hitler’s genius is that he fused the useful elements of socialism with the goals of national and personal development, and so created a system that actually provided the greatest good for the greatest number.

    The National Socialist party most certainly did not advocate nationalizing industry. On the contrary, their philosophy was the polar opposite of Marxism, always upholding the importance of private property and personal initiative, rejecting Marx’s toxic fantasies of endless class rivalry and international solidarity. What Hitler required was state supervision of industry to ensure that the resources were used for the good of the community. In a March 23, 1933 speech to the Reichstag, he stated, “Great are the tasks of the national Government in the sphere of economic life. Here all action must be governed by one law: the people does not live for business, and business does not exist for capital; but capital serves business, and business serves the people.”

    Here’s a link to the full text of Richard Tedor’s study “Hitler’s Revolution,” the best one-volume account of what National Socialism was actually about and what it accomplished:
    https://archive.org/details/HitlersRevolutionByRichardTedor_383

    Hitler’s intention to smash the international banking cartels may well have been humanity’s last chance to break free of the scourge of globalism that threatens our species’ very survival today.

    Typically each new experiment is socialism is portrayed to the people of the capitalist empires as an unspeakable tyranny enslaving its people and fanatically plotting the destruction of the almost defenseless “free” nations.

    • Replies: @Richard P
    , @dfordoom
  22. @Sick of Orcs

    BRING BACK THE 1882 CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANT EXCLUSION ACT!!!

    GOD BLESS DENIS KEARNEY….GOD BLESS SAMUEL GOMPERS…..

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  23. Realist says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    If you think this is some kind of ‘gotcha’ question you don’t know the good folks at Unz. Speaking only for myself, I don’t want non-Europeans here in any significant numbers, 100 years ago we got all the diversity we could eat from Europe alone, diversity that could and did assimilate, unlike today when assimilation is actually fought against.

    Whites were the first to build habitable buildings more than four storeys high, the first to construct bridges to carry the weight of steam trains, which we also invented, and the safe and secure mines that produced the coal that smelted the metal that formed the engines that powered the trains with the coal we mined. We are—in a word—astonishing. In invention and innovation we are elves and everyone else are orcs, and the orcs despise us for it all whilst coveting the things we have created.
    Technology is our culture, and art and music and beautiful soaring cathedrals, penicillin and botany, flushing toilets and refrigeration and general anesthesia and Shakespeare.

    The Burning Platform

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  24. Heymrguda says:

    Nice analysis mr. Kirkpatrick.

    We can thank the sainted William F. Buckley for much of this.

  25. Richard P says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Likewise. I’ve become an adherent supporter of Third Position political ideologies and Traditionalism in the metaphysical sense. The most appealing characteristics of Third Position political ideologies, such as National Socialism, is that they’re inherently anti-Capitalism anti-Communism — and pro-Ethnonationalism.

  26. Richard P says:
    @Rahan

    Absolutely. It takes a commitment to ensure the future of your people and ethnic heritage. Eastern Europe is now a bastion for Traditionalism and Russia is now the global leader in Christianity as it was during Nicholas II.

  27. Never cared to dwell in a “Log Cabin” or a Zionist Temple. Reasons I long ago gave up on being a Republican. We are ruled by a one party system anyhow.

  28. TKK says:

    Making any argument that the Holocaust did not happen, or was greatly exaggerated- is a death sentence for valid advocacy about actual, urgent white discrimination and replacement.

    It’s too unsettling for the rank and file, and that topic should be tabled until immigration and the cult of diversity is ruthlessly attacked.

    People that would support a candidate that would aggressively seek to ban AA and any and all immigration recoil when you began dismantling events where their grandfathers took heroic action in and reminisce over a beer at the VA Moose Lodge. Further, Israel is too braided in their Christian belief system.

    It’s a dead end. It’s the past and histrionically analyzing the gassing capacity of Bergen Bergen is a dead dog loser.

    What’s relevant , what’s happening in real time is a white man cannot get hired at a state or federal job if a drooling, non literate person of color applies as the same time. Once ensconced in said job, with good pay and healthy benefits, they are untouchable. The white man is left to side hustle Uber rides and stock at Costco- if he’s lucky. Go into any US Post Office and look for a white male.

    The message should be curated, clean, certain: The war against normal, decent white working class.
    White voters, when the curtain is pulled, will vote for that candidate. Trump could have gone much much further and hordes would have supported him.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @DanFromCT
  29. George W Bush’s Whitehouse

    A revolving door for homosexual male prostitutes

    One of whom was a regular guest on grifter Sean Hannity’s show……

    CONSERVATISM INC FAMILY VALUES……THINK ABOUT IT….

  30. Richard P says:
    @Observator

    National Socialist Germany was ahead of its times in every measurable way. Germany provided an extraordinary quality of life for its populace and led the world when it came to innovation in engineering feats.

    Hitler’s Germany was the only European nation that actually practiced democracy for the people by the people as it not only invited the electorate to participate in running their own country, but did so with considerable success.

    Nazi Germany Had Unequaled Quality of Life, US and British Soldiers Looted it Out of Existence

    “Stores, shops and warehouses were ransacked. Farms were deprived of their farm animals, machinery, seed stocks, fodder, wine, food stocks. Telephones were removed, telegraph equipment dismantled. Cars, trucks, even fire engines were seized. The Americans, Russian and British troops found themselves knee-deep in the remnants of a standard of living that most could only dream about.”

    https://russia-insider.com/en/history/nazi-germany-had-unequalled-quality-life-us-and-british-soldiers-looted-it-out-existence

    • Replies: @Old and grumpy
    , @Antares
  31. It wasn’t enough for Crenshaw to sacrifice an eye for Israel, he has to advocate on their behalf too.

    What a cuck.

    And please give credit to Andrew Anglin for pushing these much needed confrontations.

    • Replies: @Sunshine
  32. Anon[136] • Disclaimer says:

    Conservatism Inc. is responding to this grassroots, spontaneous movement the same way it always does–with demands for censorship, purges, and centralized control.

    The largest existential mistake that the Grassroots Right can make is to be purely reactive to the suppressive actions of “Conservativism Inc” and the Left.

    To act only in response is to assure a horrific ending.

    To act only in response is to neglect the now-obvious long term time horizon, and to make the classic high-trust social mistake of assuming that a relationship can’t get any worse or that your enemy can’t get any more evil.

    The ongoing anti-democracy coup attempt against Trump, which is morbidly corrosive to the social fabric of this nation that upholds our election processes and in a manner that is seemingly careless, has made it clear that the establishment is willing to do whatever it takes to suppress the Grassroots Right.

    They will engage in whatever-it-takes escalation until a group successfully can get out in front of them to stop it.

    In Russia, that escalation eventually included outright genocide.

    The same Western establishment that supported the regicidal revolution that kicked off that genocide is the same establishment that is now staging a soft coup against Grassroots Conservatism in the West.

    They will escalate until they get the result that they are after. To not assume that they will is to assure a bad end.

    The Grassroots Right’s only chance at survival is to start acting to stop future escalation in lieu of only reacting to it.

    • Replies: @Achilles Wannabe
  33. Charley needs to recruit Jessica Yaniv to his traveling freak show.

    Nothing will say “We’re conservative but celebrate diversity” quite like a 300 pound pre-op tranny trying to get zhir balls waxed.

    And who knows? Zhir and black gay war vet Rob Smith might hit it off.

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
  34. Durruti says:

    Out of the mouth of Babes.

    Congratulations to James Kirkpatrick for an excellent article.

    Such nonsense is irrelevant to the lived experience of young (and mostly white) campus conservatives, who are confronted with radical anti-white politics, corporate censorship, and the ruinous cost of family formation.

    Yes, Patriotism, the Nationalist desire to rescue America, and Restore our Democratic Republic, rests in the hearts of all true Citizens. The so-called ‘Right & Left’ politics is making way for a politics defined by Patriotism, Nationalism, Economic control & policies that benefit all our citizens, not just the rich.

    The truth of this observation lies in Kirkpatricks fine essay, complete with numerous visual supports.

    The Prison Planet directors also deserve credit:

    https://www.prisonplanet.com/bill-gates-says-it-was-a-mistake-to-meet-with-epstein-5-years-after-he-was-convicted-as-a-sex-offender.html

    https://www.prisonplanet.com/katie-pavlich-ties-abcs-epstein-cover-up-to-clintons-stephanopoulos.html

    Congrats to Prison Planet for not completely burying the story (as the rest of the Mainstream Media has done).

    Why are they (the Zionist owned & controlled Mainstream media), not asking -the whereabouts of Ms. Maxwell? Is she with Epstein? In the Entity, Monte Carlo, Switzerland, the Baleares, Caribbean, on one of the Rothschild’s Estates?

    Upcoming announcement: Hollywood’s Oligarch owners & controllers are producing a Film about the lives of Epstein/Maxwell. The Film will not mention MOSSAD, but might misdirect by including reference to “bad elements within the CIA.” Film will also have a brief flash of Casino Trump with Epstein, but no mention of Bill Clinton (in a blue dress), or former Entity Prime minister, Ehud Barak. Instead of Ethnic Cleansing the Palestinian People, Hollywood’s Traitor Moguls will continue their Brain Cleansing/Washing of the American People.

    Title of the Film will be: The Chosen Ones – Their Private Encounters with little Girls, Boys, and Owned Americans.

    You heard it here, first.

    Durruti

  35. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Charlie Jirk, I mean Kirk, has stated that anyone believing that Israel attacked the USS Liberty on purpose is some kind of conspiracy theorist.

    At one of his events, he had a gay black man on the stage and Charlie was also advocating for the ‘woke’ types to engage in this sort of deviancy.

    Charlie knows where the shekels flow from and is just anudder traitor whose loyalty is to Israel, not America.

  36. @DanFromCT

    1) Fox News is the National Review of cable TV.

    2) Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.

    • Replies: @Ace
  37. Anonymous[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    It’s an approach that is typical of trolls, leftists, and their useful idiots. Which one are you?

    I am an economic leftist. I view with suspicion any movement that claims to care about any collective that transcends class and isn’t economically leftist, examples of collectives that transcend class are catholics(there are poor and rich catholics), whites, blacks etc. are all such collectives because they include poor and rich people,.

    I doubt the authenticity of anglo-american nationalism because its proponents are all free market people.

    I also want to get rid of the misconception that economic leftism also includes open borders.
    and I want an explicit answer on what is the problem with brown people? This is the internet if you want to say the problem with brown people is their brownness just say it, same goes if you think they are genetically leftist. This is the internet you can just say they stink and are fat. My problem is the fakeness of the right-wing vdare style discourse that props up economic rightism as a reason to limit immigration.

    I always thought it was funny that such discourse’s main assumption was that democrat’s were going to get elected and open the borders and set up an obammunist(unintentionally funny) dictatorship or nowadays they have gone back to saying that it will lead to a permanent democrat voting majority. for argument’s sake, assuming all the faulty premises(genetic brown people leftism etc.). What would happen next? The history of the democratic party demonstrates that democrat rule is no different than republican rule. And assuming they did create an obammunist dictatorship with a brown majority. Than what is the downside for white people as white people? Do they honestly fear state mandated race-mixing, forced slavery, i.e. state persecution? It sounds ridiculous.
    The larger problem is the obamunnism hypothesis is that it is not explicit on why it should be opposed, should it be because it is economically leftist(in reality the democrats are economically centrist but that is besides the point) or is it because there will be more brown people in the U.S? Political discourse has to be clear and honest and that is what I call for.the heckler’s

    I also thought it was stupid to blame brown people for what are the actions wealthy jews. It is not people born in brown countries who are bringing gender bullshit, gay marriage and other social maladies.

    TPUSA is a joke of an organization and pretty sad and pathetic attempt by the economic rightist to reach out to the youth and the public. But they would understandably be upset by questions for the reasons I outlined in post #4

    Your questions to Kirkpatrick are disingenous and/or deliberately confrontational. It’s an approach that is typical of trolls, leftists, and their useful idiots. Which one are you?

    lol, pretty funny when the article praises the VDARE style right for posing literally disingenuous, deliberately confrontational questions.

    I was trying to see if I could get some form of praise for economic leftism from kirkpatrick or if he is still wedded to the moribund ideologically inconsistent idea of being a nationalist who believes that property rights are more important than collective obligations. case in point being, why shouldn’t people be able to hire whoever the hell they want, including illegal immigrants, why shouldn’t landlords be able to rent to whoever the hell they want including illegals? The economic leftist can say that it lowers local wages, raises rent on locals or more generally it harms society, but what can the economic rightist say? especially after Thatcher famously declared there is no society only individuals, that is what ideologically consistent economic rightist believe in.

  38. Anon[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @TKK

    Making any argument that the Holocaust did not happen, or was greatly exaggerated- is a death sentence for valid advocacy about actual, urgent white discrimination and replacement.

    That’s false. Its making an unreasonable concession to support a probable lie, whose time is inevitably limited, in order to facilitate short-term political gain.

    First, that particular lie is the cornerstone of what politically prevents effective push-back against replacement and discrimination.

    Second, once you concede to a lie you are politically compromised. They know that you can be forced to concede to anything and you will be. Which is another aspect of not being able to politically effect meaningful resistance against replacement and discrimination.

    Without effective Jewish pressure, there are no meaniginfully politically effective actors to facilitate our replacement and the discrimination against us.

    If the Holocaust is widely accepted as a lie, the Jews lose their political if not physical place in the West at minimum.

    It’s too unsettling for the rank and file, and that topic should be tabled until immigration and the cult of diversity is ruthlessly attacked.

    The new rank and file elected Trump, and so I doubt that outing the Holocaust lie is too unsettling for them. Their interests lie squarely within the box of policies that the Holocaust attempts to prevent. Increasingly, that is obvious to the rank and file.

    Second, as before implied, no Western group can be long-term successful at neutralizing the cult of diversity without revealing the illegitimacy of the Holocaust religion.

    People that would support a candidate …recoil when you began dismantling events where their grandfathers took heroic action in and reminisce over a beer at the VA Moose Lodge.

    They increasingly don’ when they do at all. I don’t.

    I loved my charming and sincere grandfather more than I have love most people that I love on this planet, and yet rightly also viewed him as a simple, low education rube who was too unsophisticated to resist internationalist Jewish propaganda and going to war against his literal family members for a group that hates him and his family members on a theological level.

    I see him as too simple to vocally resist a then-encroaching Jewish-Marxist anti-culture that would eventually greatly harm is kids and grandchildren, as well as their prospects for prosperity and even survival.

    I sat back and watched him dine-out on his war experience “at the Moose Lodge” until he died. The ability to do so, as supported by our Jewish-communist media, being his 30 pieces of silver taken for the material support of the killing of his relatives and the future of his progeny.

    As younger White voters increasingly weigh their bleak future against its root cause as facilitated by their enemies and ancestors, they will also be willing to condemn their ancestors for their willing or witless hand in that future.

    And you are willing to defer to an increasingly antiquated sense of imagined voter deference to the dead, for what? In hope of short term political gain that would have already come in prior decades if that was possible?

    That’s merely a restatement of the decades-old empty promises of Jewish-controlled Conservatism Inc. “Support what you are demanded to support, and we will dog whistle to imply the fulfillment of your real interests come election season”. Fulfillment that never came. Support that allowed a continuous increase of political space that eventually allowed outright White-issue deniers like Dan Crenshaw to be elected in that space.

    As the 2016 election stated: no thank you.

    It’s a dead end. It’s the past and histrionically analyzing the gassing capacity of Bergen Bergen is a dead dog loser.

    Wrong. Anytime that your future is mortgaged on a lie, but especially one that is widely known to be a lie, you are destined to a “dead end” ultimate loss.

    As the Jews know, which is why that they also know and accept that their obviously (to the electorate) desperate gambits in 2019 politics are only effective in buying a small amount of time. It is why they are willing to run what looks to the electorate like outright political suppression. Visible, non-revolutionary suppression always being bad in that it is always a marker of the beginning of the end. The seven decades old Jewish status quo in the USA is on borrowed time, they have nothing left to lose, and are willing to sacrifice the social fabric of this nation to gain even the smallest amount of further advantage: in this case time.

    • Agree: Hail, Dannyboy, Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @TKK
    , @Corvinus
    , @Hail
  39. @War for Blair Mountain

    I’d be pleased as punch just shelving the 1965 Judeo-marxist immigration suicide pact the people never voted for.

  40. @Rahan

    2) and it took Russia also a decade (1992-2002) to undo 70 years of communism, and regain functional normality by local terms.

    You have about zero knowledge and understanding, which is characteristic of majority in the West, of Russia. You would be also appalled by the latest, last week, statement of Russian Orthodox Church on the social-economic issue. It would be too “communist” for you precisely for the reasons of the United States not having real conservatism or, for that matter, genuine nationalism in principle. You also will be surprised that it took Russia about 17 years, precisely 2002-20019, to undo the “undoing 70 years of communism”, because that “undoing” had nothing to do with undoing of “communism”, but everything with enriching an oligarchy–the same process which is happening this very minute in the United States. Russia is well on her way of undoing this, thus ascending in every category of human development, while the United States is in a steep, in fact, precipitous decline because, among many other factors, she doesn’t have real conservatives-nationalists, let alone those who can take on American oligarchy.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  41. anonfly says:
    @animalogic

    The Nazi government was also at war or severely depressed economically. Roosevelt nationalized all kinds of industries during WWII, but no one notices that he was ever a socialist, also during the depression. What about Mousolinni in Italy, Stalin in Russia, even Japan today.China and Vietnam are communist but look how much we love them, how smart they are and so much better than us.

  42. Richard P says:
    @DanFromCT

    Fox News takes the faux conservative prize.

    sending young Americans to die and be maimed for Israel—so good Jewish boys need not.

    Fox News is an absolute joke and travesty in terms of Traditional school of thought. The staff at Fox News are Cucks and shills to Israel. They worship the Yinon and Seven Nations Plans. What have “Conservatives” conserved over the last 50 years? Absolutely nothing.

    There’s no two party system as there’s only one party — and its called Globalism, Inc. (or Zionism, Inc.).

    This is why one should proclaim to be a Traditionalist and distance themselves from Conservative, Inc. Furthermore, this is why we need to embrace the Third Position political ideology and/or the Fourth Way political theory.

  43. @Richard P

    Yeah life was great. Germany was just peachy with all that losing and being blown to smithereens.

    Seriously can we finally just retire Hitler forever as the hypochondriac loser and suicidal coward that he was? You ain’t winning squat fan girling Adolph. All your doing is providing the opposition an easy win. Almost makes one think some alphabet agency is conveniently fueling the whole neo Nazs movementt. Especially since the National Socialists didn’t refer to themselves as Nazi’s.

    And yes, I am a boomer. Save you the slurring.

  44. I started out thinking this article might actually be helpful. The only real issue is that it doesn’t make any clear distinctions between what the author references as “conservative inc.” and conservatism. And the reference material doesn’t do much to clarify the matter. I am not obtuse the difficulties of identifying or defining what a conservative is at present. given the massacre of its principles in practice as well as abandoning the same for political purposes.

    But if in fact, you want to recognize that there is a damaging vent of so conservatives that is actually anything but or damaging so deep it needs confronting then you have to tackle the difficult but instrumental aspect of defining in some manner what is meant by conservatism verses “conservative inc.” From a communicative perspective using the term conservative inc. is problematic because it suggests strongly that “conservatism” as an ethos is under false — by definition – use of the word anchored by “incorporation”. I am unclear how inc. makes it distinct. Clearly what the article refers to are “beltway” political or left and far left conservatives, even it’s possible to be far or left and still be a conservative. Those labels would make matters more clear, even if one did not define them the distinctions they would provide some manner recognizable distinction — broadly speaking conservative relativity or relative conservatives. Those who use conservative merely as a tool for political, social or economic advantage.

    And there are several issues that are outstanding to conservative ethos and practice

    1. a divine authority

    2. integrity of objective realities

    3. the purpose of order and prudence not as an end but to the means best for all concerned to just society — fair playing fields.

    4. a respect and support for the mechanisms (institutions) that enable justice and fairness

    5. limited government – not merely understood as “small” but least intrusive in the lives of citizens

    6. change and improvement are part of any social order — however, the means chosen is predicated on effectively doing so minus the damaging effects of abrupt and disorderly attend.

    7. understands the pillars of successful societies and supports them: family, local community, regional, state and national ,mechanisms – each with attendant responsibilities . . .

    —————————————————

    The frame work for US citizens is embodied in the historical documents of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the US neither of which are universal documents but unique as written and intended to the formulation of the US of America and her alone.

    • Agree: Durruti
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  45. TKK says:
    @Anon

    Your argument is eloquent and well written. Just reading it, it’s clear you are in the extreme top of the pyramid in literacy and critical thinking. (No snark here).

    But that’s not the unwashed masses. I don’t think our zombie culture has the bandwidth to digest the staggering future of their extinction while at the same time untangling the skien of the snarled past.

    You have to realize that stating the Holocaust was a myth is a fringe concern.

    The meat and potatoes gang will back anyone who demands dudes with penises and breast implants stop bringing lawsuits if you don’t recognize them as females. They will back anyone who shouts that health care for illegals is bat shit bonkers.

    But what mileage- what immediate real world gain- do they receive by parsing the events of WW 2 on a granular level?

    One has to get inside the building before you can tear it down.

  46. The Democratic Party wants to MURDER IN COLD BLOOD!!! Working Class Native Born White American Males…….

    THINK ABOUT IT……..THINK ABOUT IT….THINK ABOUT IT….

  47. Richard P says:
    @Old and grumpy

    Germany was just peachy with all that losing and being blown to smithereens.

    Well, I can’t disagree with you on this. As I said, National Socialist Germany had an extortionary quality of life during its peak years and before the non-stop allied bombing. Just look at what the US and British air raids did to poor Dresden — that was a war crime in itself.

    Almost makes one think some alphabet agency is conveniently fueling the whole neo-Nazs movement. Especially since the National Socialists didn’t refer to themselves as Nazi’s.

    Again, you raise a valid argument. Ultimately, National Socialist Germany and Hitler were on the losing end and were decimated. Nonetheless, that doesn’t make their formula for success irrelevant and inapplicable to today’s political landscape — as that formula was successful and would have remained so if certain decisions weren’t made by Hitler.

    I do agree that no authentic National Socialist or supporter of Third Position political ideologies refer to themselves as “Nazis”. The only ones that do are either low life trash/thugs or operatives within the Alphabet Agencies who are trying to entrap the gullible — such as the recent arrest of Richard Holzer who threatened to blow up the synagogue in Colorado.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  48. @Sick of Orcs

    Yes, if “brown people” crossing the border illegally were culturally conservative in outlook, there would be a huge double (or triple) wall patrolled by large numbers of border guards with orders to shoot to kill.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  49. The GOP must die…let it die…for the GOP is a stinking rotting corpse…bury this stinking rotting corpse in a sealed lead coffin…….in a Nevada salt mine…..

    Dan Crenshaw is a fucking shill cockroach for the (((ADL)))=ISRAELIE INTERFERENCE IN US ELECTIONS=DANCING ISRAELIE ART STUDENTS…..

    • Replies: @Richard P
  50. Diversity = Fewer whites.
    Inclusion = Zero whites.

  51. Nam says:
    @Anonymous

    So… you’re just an idiot, then? You see the world unidimensionally according to the premise of your religion.. I mean, ideology.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  52. Richard P says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Dan Crenshaw is a fucking shill cockroach for the (((ADL)))=ISRAELIE INTERFERENCE IN US ELECTIONS=DANCING ISRAELIE ART STUDENTS…..

    Or a planted seed/operative enlisted by the US Intelligence Community.

  53. DanFromCT says:
    @TKK

    Commenting on the so-called Holocaust depends on the context. I mentioned to some friends, the wife Jewish, that the numbers at Auschwitz had been officially reduced by the Jewish curator by two million and that it was generally accepted the final number could not exceed 175,ooo for all nationalities. She immediately got on the Internet to check it out and simply agreed once she’d seen the official revision. The thing about the Holocaust is that the 6 million number appears to almost everyone at this point to be a self-serving and grotesque exaggeration. As for the rest of it, falsus in uno, falsus in omnia. . .

    • Replies: @SOL
  54. anon[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old and grumpy

    And yes, I am a boomer. Save you the slurring.

    being a “boomer” is a matter of being born at a particular time/era/demographic moment.
    not something you or any boomer can control.

    your comment, however, reflects idiocy, and gives boomers a bad name — a slur on us non-idiot boomers.

    getting history right is the LAST thing on the agenda of US and ADL etc. agencies, unless you think the gazillions spent on holocaust freak houses pays for an objective view of history catering to “hitler fanboys.”

  55. Anonymous[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nam

    idiots are the ones who think faith can save them from reality. I reached reached my ideological positions through reason and not faith. If you can have a religion that requires no faith, than I will gladly call it a religion.

    It is pretty telling of your ability to engage intelligent discourse that you made no attempt to refute what I wrote.

    You are probably a boomer who should have died long ago, but sadly life extending modern medicine only extends the life of the body and not of the brain.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  56. Why do Hindus from India come to America LEGALLY?

    Answer:So Hindu “Americans” can enthusiastically LEGALLY vote Donald Trump’s White Male Voting Bloc into a WHITE RACIAL MINORITY-WHITE RACIAL FOREIGNER within the borders of America….

    THINK ABOUT IT…..THINK ABOUT IT…..THINK ABOUT IT……

  57. anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard P

    recent arrest of Richard Holzer who threatened to blow up the synagogue in Colorado.

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/we-are-all-palestinians-2/#comment-3543445

    This guy has appeared on numerous shows doing something similar with mind games. He is Israeli, he served in their air force.

    I wonder if this (mind control/manipulation) is something that is studied in Israel as a very serious science and discipline – if so, perhaps we are all Palestinians

    Wasp zombifies cockroach

    your choice: jewasp or cuckroach?

  58. @Andrei Martyanov

    Andrie

    Their stupidity can be monumental. They actually believe that the enemy they are fighting is COMMUNISM!!!!…Jeff Bezos is a COMMUNIST!!!!….Hillary Clinton is a COMMUNIST!!!!….COMMUNISTS-HIDING-UNDER-THE BED!!! syndrome……

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  59. 4justice says:
    @gotmituns

    Yes, as has been every institution in our society – even the pro-Palestine movement! There is no way to “separate” from Judaizers, there needs to be a more sophisticated protection – you need to learn to live among Judaizers and still manage to stand up to them and protect the institutions they are attacking. I honestly think loving your enemies, while also loving and certainly protecting yourself, are the best tools to resist this sort of trickery and wizardry. They don’t have a way around a person who refuses to buy into their scams. I think Islam offers a lot of this protection as well, which is why they are trying to get Christians and Muslims to fight. They certainly don’t agree with Islamic banking, for example.

    The Catholic Church is in the throes of an internal struggle between the cabal that has been corrupted by those same forces that have corrupted Western Society at large and those who are true to the teachings of Christ. Sincere Catholics who understand the importance of avoiding sin to be a free human being will have to educate fellow Catholics and grow the forces exposing those who want to degrade the Church and society, even if the corruption goes all the way to the Pope, because the true leader of the Church is Jesus Christ, not a regular man.

    “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”

    We are looking at a struggle between good and evil. We need to organize around something that can empower us and protect us from corruption. There needs to be a great awakening in America to something. The Tea Party and Conservative, Inc. are just oligarch controlled astroturf operations. The Green Party could be good, but they will need to stand up to the socialists who are not for decentralization and grassroots democracy and who demonize Christianity, the faith of the majority of Americans (the last of which is counter to the Green key value of respect for diversity.) In other words, the Greens need to follow their own stated values instead of letting socialists/Judaizers take over the party and use it for their identity politics and state expansion agenda. But the Green Party started as neither left nor right and it could return to its roots. But keep in mind, any movement that gets any traction quickly gets co-opted by oligarch and Judaizing forces.

    While the Catholic Church has never been free of sinners, it has centuries of experience in freeing people from those who would enslave them in the sins of usury, dependency and sexual perversion. I believe it has allowed for the kind of stability that allows for the creation of great art, architecture, infrastructure, thought, etc. Those who seek to enslave others have been particularly effective at infiltrating and degrading all of the institutions in the modernist period thanks to things like mass media and propaganda. It is time for regular people to see through these many cons and seek to revive the values that make for a trusting stable society.

    I do think we need to reclaim the Church in order to reclaim our society and our freedom. I am open minded, but at this point, I don’t see how we can reverse this degradation and stand up to this evil tyranny without God and, despite it being very weak and mired in massive corruption at this moment, it seems to me the Catholic Church is the least corrupt Church with the longest history of success.

    I admit I am heavily impressed by the works of E Michael Jones, particularly _The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit_ and _Libido Dominandi_. I would love other people’s thoughts on this analysis of modernity and post modernity, but they square extremely well with my experience over my lifetime. I have always been a theist, but more and more it seems that only God can gives us the strength to recognize and face down the demonic attack on our society and the humility to know that we do not have the right to degrade ourselves, others, society and the environment aka God’s creation. I know we have lived in a society that has bathed our brains in ridicule of theism, but that is just one of the many cons we need to pull out of, in my opinion.

    Sorry this is long winded – the short answer is that perhaps the Church, despite its weakened state, can be a vehicle for logos to rise. I think that with the grace of God, it can be.

    • Replies: @Dan’l
  60. Conservatism Inc. Must be Destroyed!

    The Republican Party Must Be Destroyed!

    White Core America is the new political party that will advance the interests of the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

    Whitey Row Your Boat Ashore — And Away From The Sinking Republican Party!

    Tweets from 2015:

  61. dfordoom says: • Website

    An astonishing 70 percent of millennials now say they would vote for an avowed socialist candidate

    Maybe millennials aren’t as dumb as I’d thought.

  62. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Rahan

    it took Eastern Europe a decade (1990-2000) to undo 45 years of communism, and regain functional normality by local terms.

    And it will only take slightly longer for neoliberalism, open borders ideology and globo-decadence to utterly destroy Eastern Europe. At which time they’ll be wishing they still had the communists in power.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  63. Nationalist Campus Insurgency Against Conservatism Inc. Shows America’s Right Up for Grabs

    The CUCKSERVATIVES in the Republican Party Must Be Destroyed!

    The CUCKSERVATIVES in Conservatism Inc. Must Be Destroyed!

    Richard Boston Born Bertrand Louisiana Spencer defines ‘cuckservatism’:

    “#Cuckservative” is a full-scale revolt, by Identitarians and what I’ve called the ‘alt Right,’ against the Republican Party and conservative movement,” Spencer explained in an e-mail. “The ‘cuck’ slur is vulgar, yes, but then piercingly accurate. It is the cuckold who, whether knowingly or unknowingly, loses control of his future. This is an apt psychological portrait of white ‘conservatives,’ whose only identity is comprised of vague, abstract ‘values,’ and who are participating in the displacement of European Americans — their own children.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/29/cuckservative-the-conservative-insult-of-the-month-explained/

  64. @gotmituns

    I am not and never was a Catholic, nor even a person of faith. Still, for a movement against the prevailing zeitgeist to succeed, it must be grounded in something more than earthly materialism. Hence, the growing America First Christian movement, headed by its young, talented and very funny spokesman Nick Fuentes, has its roots in the old traditional Catholicism, as exemplified by E Michael Jones, who has become a hero to many young people seeking to live a life with meaning beyond the self. Jones, with his many YouTube videos, has surely led many youngsters back to a life of faith.

    Traditional Catholicism has always been leery of rapacious capitalism and wary of Judaism. It is tragic that this opposition was lost in the second half of the 20th Century, as churches, outside of the Zionist Evangelicals, continue to hemorrhage members. The resurrection of Catholic traditionalism, as well as other conservative sects such as Russian Orthodox, is a movement to be encouraged.

    The current open borders Judaized Pope, not Trump, should be impeached. Time is short and we materialistic boomers have failed miserably. Only young people of faith, willing to have children, can save Western Civilization. The atheistic Nietzschean nationalism of Richard Spencer has failed miserably – good riddance to him.

    • Agree: 4justice, utu
  65. peterAUS says:
    @mark green

    Conservatism, inc. has failed–perhaps intentionally.

    For a re-birth, the next generation of conservative leaders must put race, ‘anti-Semitism’ and immigration (all from a white perspective) at the top of their agenda. Tax cuts can wait.

    If America’s founding demographic is to be served and preserved, there is no other way forward. These are the key challenges we face. Time is of the essence.

    Pretty much.
    The last sentence in particular.

  66. Antares says:
    @Richard P

    Russia Insider mentions the Nazis, but it was after the first world war that Germany was not only looted but also endebted. The common factor is Germany and not nazism.

    • Agree: Eric135
  67. “Historic American Nation”
    Fictional American Nation.
    The original colonists. the Founding Fathers, and every US President, all come from Old World ruling family lines.

    A Kirkpatrick should know his heritage.
    http://mileswmathis.com/happy.pdf
    See pages 4 & 8.

  68. A Sam Huntington vs Pat Buchanan brawl is good for the warriors of White Patriotism against Conservatism Inc. and the Republican Party. That means that the Sam Huntington description of the USA as a British Protestant settler state is coming into contact with the forces of the European Christian description of the USA of Pat Buchanan. The Catholic Buchananite European Christian nation forces must give ground to the Sam Huntington British Protestant forces and then the two can come together to defeat the evil globalizers in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    Bonehead baby boomer boob Michael E Jones is a Catholic head in the clouds boy who says you can take a million African Negroids and magically turn them into English or Germans or Irish or French people.

    I’ll read Sam Huntington and Pat Buchanan, but I ain’t reading that Philadelphia baby boomer turd Catholic twat E Michael Jones. Pope Tango and E Michael Jones can both go to sub-Saharan Africa and stew in their own juices. Does this baby boomer turd E Michael Jones have any English ancestry?

    Southern Old Stocker Hunter Wallace describes the strategy of constant confrontation that some of the younger White Core Americans are using to attack the treasonous whores in Conservatism Inc. and the Republican Party:

    The new strategy is critique or destructive criticism. It is amazingly simple and effective. It is nothing more than a relentless critique and mockery of mainstream conservatism. The goal is to generate a swelling tide of online criticism that undermines and destroys the legitimacy of Conservatism, Inc. The primary way that the Groypers are doing this right now is by showing up and asking conservative liberals like Matt Walsh or Charlie Cuck penetrating questions that are designed to pry them apart from their social base of White Christians.

    Matt Walsh was asked a question by a Groyper about changing racial demographics to force an issue that conservatives would rather not talk about and he responded by answering that what conservative liberalism is conserving is human rights. In other words, these people don’t believe that America has any racial, cultural, ethnic or religious basis and they aren’t even trying to conserve such a thing. Instead, what they are doing is conserving liberalism while publicly ceding to the Groypers the ground of defending the White Christian social order, which is the thing that their base really cares about and what powers their whole project. The questions about changing demographics, Israel and cultural degeneracy highlight their true priorities.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2019/11/07/matt-walsh-the-dissident-right-is-running-interference-for-the-left/

    • Replies: @William D. Wall
  69. @DanFromCT

    Well then, thank god for Tucker Carlson for going against the grain. He is against all the Middle East wars, and wants to bring the troops home and put them on our Southern Border. His is the only show that I watch anymore, and he pushes back from Fox’s Israel-first orthodoxy as much as he can and still keep his job, which he wouldn’t have if not for his high ratings. Tucker destroyed ultra hawk neocon John Bolton shortly before Trump stupidly appointed him as his NSA.

    BTW, Hannity is a war pig, who happens to be right on one issue – supporting Trump against the democrat coup. And Buck is also right, Epstein did not kill himself.

    • Replies: @DanFromCT
    , @anarchyst
  70. @El Dato

    Unfortunately that guy may well be in a room surrounded by lefties and the few nationalists wouldn’t dare speak a word. No conversation with a lefty ends up with a coherent, factual, evidence based response. A person could have a more meaningful conversation with a cat. In my home it ends when I talk about my newest pistol and bring it out for show and tell. The look of terror on their faces is priceless.

  71. gotmituns says:
    @Old and grumpy

    Here’s the scoop. The international bankers/jews were PO’d that Hitler took Germany off the gold standard and issued his own currency backed by work performed and or products. He went to a barter economy internationally – goods for goods. He got Germany back on it’s feet 2-3 years after taking office. Obviously, the international bankers had to get him so they contrived the entire WWII malarkey to get him (you know those bankers – they don’t care about a few million dead here or there).

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  72. @DR3

    Another YouTube livestream worth checking out is Luke Ford. Ford supposedly converted to Orthodox Jewry, but he is a cultural conservative with an open mind, who doesn’t appear to be a Zionist. The person worth listening to, and who makes the show a favorite of mine, is paleocon Kevin Michael Grace. But the annoying young Zionist Jew, Kyle, who is another regular, is a freakin’ idiot.

  73. Mulegino1 says:

    Chesterton observed that the job of progressives is to make mistakes and the job of conservatives is to keep these from being corrected.

    “Corporate ‘conservatives’ ” are the worst enemies of traditionalists and nationalists, since they provide a Potemkin facade as an alternative to the liberals/progressives, when in point of fact all they do is militate for corporate interests and ignore all of the worst social and cultural excesses of the radical left, to the point of embracing the latter. Nobody but a paid hack or an absolutely clueless idiot is going to go to bat for a movement or organization whose ideology is based merely on tax cuts, free trade and wars for the sake of Israel.

    The new guys on the block have got it right- the real struggle is a cultural, societal and existential one. While fiscal and financial matters are important, particularly when they are viewed from the perspective of the interests of the nation and people, the social and cultural struggle is paramount, as it pertains to the very soul of the people.

    These rat bastard cucks are going nowhere with their globo-homo, neocon agenda.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  74. @Patricus

    You are a victim of finance capitalism propaganda. Communism is Marxism, not socialism. Socialists do not outright reject private ownership, the goal was co-ops to displace finance capital. Co-ops are corporations where every member has only one share. The majority decides, not one shareholder with 50.1% of the shares. The state is not the worker.
    Real socialists are opposed to private central banks. I haven’t heard any of the allegedly “far left” Democratic Presidential candidates suggest nationalizing the Fed. Ron Paul was more of a socialist than they are on that one.

    Also part of the brainwashing is the absolute failure of the vast majority of Americans, who fail to understand that immigration is the reserve army of capital, used to attack the people of the nation. It lowers wages and working conditions; produces more pollution; increases living costs; lowers standards of living; and most importantly, increases profits
    Any real nationalism, out of necessity, will have socialist aspects, because doing what is right for the nation, in the truest sense of the word, means that the best solution can come from anywhere on the political spectrum. Governments “own” armies. Is that communism, or should it be a government asset that should be privatized just as the US government privatized the control of its currency.
    As long as people dwell in the land of “left” and “right” the owners will continue to divide. One solution would be to ban political parties and require all candidates running for office to be funded equally, out of the public purse. That would make candidates have to face their electorate more directly, and make them more responsive to the electorate, rather than the party. In Congress, the political parties would not get to choose committee chairs, individuals would have to earn the respect of their peers for that.
    There is a long way to go.

  75. Mulegino1 says:
    @gotmituns

    You’re completely right, of course. Hitler brought the German nation from the point of death by physical starvation and spiritual deprivation, and within 3 years, it had one of the highest standards of living in the world. And all this with no appreciable dependence on the predatory Shylocks of international finance capitalism.

    But it must be understood, that at the deepest level of all, the happiness and well being of the nations represents profound misery to international Jewry. The enrichment of the latter is not what is paramount- the immiseration and corruption of the former is the true objective that makes Jewry tick and towards which it tirelessly works; its leaders know that this is precisely what leads to Jewish domination.

  76. @Old and grumpy

    They did refer to themselves as Nazi-Sozis at times. Otherwise agreed.

  77. Conservatism Inc.=Cockroach Inc.

  78. DanFromCT says:
    @follyofwar

    Tucker Carlson is the only news show I can watch, too. The rest is pretty obviously intended to neutralize the rise of native leadership with the relentless insinuation that all we can do is whine like Lou Dobbs and his guests, vote Republican, and show what we’re made of by blowing hot air out our asses like Hannity with his mawkish imbecilities about America still being great because he gets great deals at Costco. Sean wuvs America and the gal who follows him turns to American-hating Alan Dershowitz to update us about the espionage of his long-term client Jeffrey Epstein. Check.

    Just yesterday the kosher msm was mendaciously portraying our Army’s combat vets as baby killers, while today no one says a word when Fox’ toadeaters tout that “muh brothers, muh mission” fake and phony honor among “warriors”—now all heroes of course, just for putting on the uniform for Eretz Israel and the Yinon Plan. More importantly, Fox News’ elaborate efforts concealing Israel’s culpability for 9/11 constitutes, as a matter of law, powerful circumstantial evidence of their guilt in the greatest act of treason against this country in its history.

    Fox News’ basecamp commando and armchair warrior types were outed by Homer’s Achilles in the ninth century BC, in the Iliad. As Pope’s translation has it,

    O monster! Mixed of insolence and fear,
    Thou dog in forehead, but in heart a deer!
    When wert thou known in ambush’d fights to dare,
    Or nobly face the horrid front of war?
    ‘Tis ours, the chance of fighting fields to try;
    Thine to look on, and bid the valiant die.

    How dare Fox News demand we honor the soldiers who foolishly believed Fox News that they were fighting for their country. They still go in droves to their possible deaths, mistaking the costumed bureaucrats in the Pentagon who serve Israel first in all things for warrior patriots like themselves. I do not believe a military whose leadership’s chief trait is servility toward a foreign nation and betrayal of its own can survive no matter how much money is counterfeited by the Treasury out of thin air to pay its bills.

  79. @War for Blair Mountain

    Yes, they are all Maxist pigs, just as their hero Abe Lincoln was. That fact is well known by all.

    What is beyond belief to me is the degree Putin has pulled the wool over the eyes of the entire west and convinced everyone he is anti-communist, anti-world government, an honest politician, a devout Christian, a staunch Nationalist, lover of the people, anti-imperialist, and an all-round good guy. Nothing could be further from the truth. “Perestroika” is for real, and it is the game Putin is playing.

    Putin’s real intention—and not from the day he entered the Kremlin, but from the day he left Dresden—was to reassert the authority of the autocratic state. In the years to come, he made no secret of the fact that he considered the demise of the Soviet Union to be the greatest “geopolitical catastrophe of the [twentieth] century.” In 1992, while working for the mayor of St. Petersburg, he hired a production company to make a film about himself so he that could reveal his past in the reviled KGB in a way that would be palatable to the public and protect his political ambitions. The title of the film was Vlast, or “Power.” Vladimir Putin was going to make Russia great again.


    https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/02/01/putin-from-oligarch-to-kleptocrat/

  80. How Virginia was lost:

    NONWHITE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS+THE CHILDREN OF NONWHITE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS=SCAB LABOR…..

    Well…who the fuck is responsible for this?

    Answer:Richard Nixon……Ronald Reagan…..George H Bush….George W Bush…….=CONSERVATIVE INC……

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  81. Owen Benjamin pointed out to me that to defend being white is falling into a trap. He made the analogy to blacks and the term nigger. Decades ago black Americans decided, or it was decided for them, that the term ‘nigger’ was ok for them to use when addressing one another, but not ok for anyone else to use. What this did was put Black Americans into a box which seperated them from everyone else. The same goes for Jews and their sensativity towards the holocaust, and alleged anti-semitism. All it has accomplished is separation. Owen is white, all 6’8″ of him, but he doesn’t describe himself as “a strong proud white man”. Rather, his representation of what he is, is: a Christian man with strong family values, who gets satisfaction from his ability to provide for his wife and family, without selling out to anyone.
    The point I’m making is color doesn’t define the man, actions do. Everything we are presented with by our so called media is designed to divide us. The answer is really simple: invite God into your life, respect those who respect you and ignore the others, turn off the TV, stay away from porn (yeah it’s that bad thus so importantr), find a good woman, marry and have children, build a strong moral family. Everything else one accomplishes with his life is frosting.
    So ignore all the strife and bullshit being peddled, and enjoy everyday. It’s that easy. Oh, and stay out of un-neccesary debt.

  82. Kirk ludicrously believes that, the Israeli attempt to sink the USS Liberty, is a conspiracy theory. He’s a privledged brat, and he needs a spanking. Now all we have to do is find his his father. But to give him any sort of acknowledgement is plain stupid. No offense intended.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  83. The filthy skank and Capitalist Pig Katie Pavlich…married to a member of the IDF……said one hour ago on Fox News:”And don’t forget the generosity of Bill Gates and the Koch Brothers……” with a straight face……This is Conservatism Inc….

  84. These days, thanks to Conservatism Inc., support for Israel is the main view that makes one a conservative. It’s the litmus test which, if you fail, banishes you to the fringes as a Nazi. Sam Francis was onto them long ago, as Clyde Wilson is today. I remember commenting at Chronicles years ago that the GOP’s establishment “conservatives” wanted to rope every conservative into their Big Tent where they could all be cornholed at the leisure of the party bosses.

    Needless to say, my comment was deleted.

  85. anarchyst says:
    @follyofwar

    Not only is Hannity a “war pig”, but he is a shill for israel.

    Listening to his radio show, a caller asked him about the deliberate israeli attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on 8 June 1967.

    Hannity cut off the caller and then stated “israel wouldn’t have done such a thing” and that “israel was our friend and ally”.

    I damn near fell out of my chair when I heard THAT.

    • Replies: @Sunshine
  86. @the grand wazoo

    Kirk is probably being “torpedoed” by his black homo sidekick.

  87. anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:

    The point I’m making is color doesn’t define the man, actions do. Everything we are presented with by our so called media is designed to divide us.

    division is the goal.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/12/liberal-world-order-helped-israel-flourish-now-state-is-pushing-back/?arc404=true

  88. @Digital Samizdat

    It is very important to realize that WW2 was really Anglo-WASP and Jewish capitalism snuffing fascist third position alternatives that worked and using a half million American Euro gentile lives to do it And yes, it was a conspiracy.

    We need real history taught to our young I matured with a university education which was really Hollywood and WASP Jewish WW2 propaganda. This goes right on today. We need an alternative university

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  89. geokat62 says:
    @dfordoom

    And it will only take slightly longer for neoliberalism, open borders ideology and globo-decadence to utterly destroy Eastern Europe.

    Shorter version:

    And it will only take slightly longer for Cultural Marxism to utterly destroy Eastern Europe.

  90. @4justice

    Is it true , as gotminuns just said. that the CAtholic Church is completely Judazed? Does E michael Jones’s traditionalism represent any kind of significant movement? If so trad catholicism is anti semitic whereas Protestant Calvinism appears Jewish from scratch. White people in America seem to need Christianity. Could a more traditionalist Catholicism
    begin to fill the need?

    • Replies: @4justice
  91. @animalogic

    Yes to National Socialism. This is the only kind of socialism that works because it is rooted in a concern for a homogenized people rather than some abstract, universal humanity. That is why the left always portrays racism as controlled by capitalists and translates WW2 as a conflict between capitalisms rather than a struggle between a workable national socialism and a globalizing WASP
    Jewish capitalism

  92. Corvinus says:

    “Nick Fuentes, the funny, charismatic, and Catholic host…”

    You mean a Latinx man? Whose ancestors are not Heritage American? What gives him his credentials, magic dirt?

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  93. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Observator

    Hitler’s genius is that he fused the useful elements of socialism with the goals of national and personal development, and so created a system that actually provided the greatest good for the greatest number.

    Hey. I’ve got a great idea. In order to provide a viable popular alternative to Conservatism Inc why don’t dissident rightists start posting stuff about how much they admire Hitler? Fawning over the biggest loser and the most hated man in history – that’s the way to win friends and influence people. What could be more popular than that? I’m awed by the strategic genius behind this thinking.

    Look, I’m not a rightist so if you guys want to utterly destroy the Right for generations to come don’t let me stop you! I’ll just buy more popcorn.

    • Troll: tac
    • Replies: @TKK
    , @Antares
  94. Corvinus says:
    @Anon

    “Its making an unreasonable concession to support a probable lie, whose time is inevitably limited, in order to facilitate short-term political gain.”

    Except the fact of the matter is that the Holocaust occurred. So your entire argument is based on a false premise. It is unsettling to those on the fringe who madly insist they are “exposing the truth”, except that truth centers around confirmation bias, outright falsehoods, and specious reasoning. Take, for example, your description of your grandfather “as a simple, low education rube who was too unsophisticated to resist internationalist Jewish propaganda”. This statement is classic high horse virtue signaling. Maybe, just maybe, your beloved grandfather was acutely aware of the machinations of Hitler based on his life experiences and his analytical thinking skills, and was the prescient one. Another fact–today’s youth are making their own decisions about race and culture, and may not view the future as bleak as you think it is. The “root cause” of modern problems are complex, but leave it to you to think that one particular group is the primary factor for the world’s challenges.

    Now, I will say that Dan Crenshaw is a crackpot for making that suggestion. Do most white people even know who is this guy? Should they care?

    “The seven decades old Jewish status quo in the USA is on borrowed time, they have nothing left to lose, and are willing to sacrifice the social fabric of this nation to gain even the smallest amount of further advantage: in this case time.”

    IF this statement is accurate, what are you personally doing to stop this scourge other than lamenting on a blog? Do you not have skin in the game? Do you not have a duty to become an active, but most importantly a visible, dissenter? I mean, if our nation is facing a danger of epic proportions, then you have the ultimate responsibility in engaging in a soapbox speaking tour from city to city, town to town, hamlet to hamlet. Just bring your vocal cords.

  95. Sunshine says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Yes! Thank you! Andrew Anglin definitely deserves credit here! His coverage of this has been very thorough. The Daily Stormer is absolutely fantastic.

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  96. Sunshine says:
    @anarchyst

    Years ago, I’d go pick up my husband from work, right at the time Hannity’s radio show would come on. We’d always listen just to wait to see how long it would take him to mention Israel. Usually within the first 30 minutes at absolute most.

    • LOL: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  97. Hail says: • Website
    @DanFromCT

    On one show he [Sean Hannity] and Ann Coulter waxed orgasmic over having Netanyahu simultaneously serve as president of this country

    When?

    That doesn’t sound like 2010s-era Ann Coulter.

  98. Hail says: • Website
    @Anon

    Great commentary; please pick a handle and keep posting.

  99. @DR3

    Folly of War is recommending Luke Ford’s livestream. Yes to that Michael Grace is interesting and formidable . But he is cuked on Jews or at least feigns it well as you can’t remain on Jew Tube unless you play the game. Actually he is at least somewhat cuked becuse he really does seem to buy the Hollywood fairy tale about Nazi’s Kyle is on there to appease Jew tube and Luke’s brother hood at the synagogue. If you can stand it, he is useful for demonstrating how the Jewish mind works at its more intelligent level. Luke is a strange duck. He was raised by a 7 day adventist theologian. Luke can get very Jewy as when he once wrote off young guys on sites like teh Stormer as basement dwellers who have low IQ’ and couldn’t be doctors and lawyers. But then I think of Luke’ former Anglo Protestantism as Jewy anyway. Still it is a good show – stimulating and informative

  100. @Realist

    Who wrote that on TBP? Is that from one of Jim Quinn’s articles? Just asking because of the attribution.

    • Replies: @Realist
  101. @Corvinus

    He’s not fully American, but he can support the American nation, you know, like the French during the revolution? They weren’t American, but they were honoured by Americans. Like Fuentes is here?

    Mixed-race individuals are going to be pretty interesting. His father European, his mother hispanic. It will probably fall under a case by case basis.

    But the idea that everyone is going to become mixed race observedly hasn’t occurred. All the television shows and broadcast commercials notwithstanding, there is probably not much more interracial procreation taking place now than there was prior to the 20th century. Sounds hard to believe? Remember, depending upon the study, black Americans are between one-fifth and one-quarter European.

    Someone like Fuentes who meets 2.5 of the criteria for western could probably be supported as a guest of the American nation. Remember how civic nationalism can work at the margins? There is your margin, and it’s right on the margins.

    Once again your thinking is lazy. People who aren’t American can still support the American nation, but the magic dirt doesn’t magically make Not-Americans American.

    “The dirt is the same, the physical geography is the same, but English colonists coming to the geography of North America did not become Indians. Their culture did not change, they did not suddenly start living in wigwams and dividing up into small tribes. You know, every single day we see this, and yet we see most of our government policies, we see most of the media narrative affirming something that we know to be false. Now, I’m encouraged by the fact that we’re starting to see the term Magic Dirt appear in many places that you wouldn’t expect to see it.”

    It’s good you’re considering the implications of magic dirt.

    It isn’t magic.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  102. @Old and grumpy

    Fuckin’ A. I had to say that, because the Agree tag didn’t quite satisfy me. You nailed it, Old and grumpy.

  103. @Corvinus

    You’re hilarious.

    Why don’t you read this piece – it was practically written for you.

    http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/

    “If conservatives are right about the importance of virtue, morality, religious faith, stability, character and so on in the individual; if they are right about sexual morality or what came to be termed “family values”; if they are right about the importance of education to inculcate good character and to teach the fundamentals that have defined knowledge in the West for millennia; if they are right about societal norms and public order; if they are right about the centrality of initiative, enterprise, industry, and thrift to a sound economy and a healthy society; if they are right about the soul-sapping effects of paternalistic Big Government and its cannibalization of civil society and religious institutions; if they are right about the necessity of a strong defense and prudent statesmanship in the international sphere—if they are right about the importance of all this to national health and even survival, then they must believe—mustn’t they?—that we are headed off a cliff.

    But it’s quite obvious that conservatives don’t believe any such thing, that they feel no such sense of urgency, of an immediate necessity to change course and avoid the cliff.”

    You don’t feel any sense of urgency, do you.

    Because you don’t believe what you say, Cuckservative.

    After reading your idiot maladroitness on the other thread I have absolutely no fears whatsoever that conservatism will fail to be supplanted.

    You mock the notion that the nation is in fact facing a danger of epic proportions, because you are an oblivious solipsist who doesn’t understand the west, Christianity, America, or the dangers it faces.

    Every comment you make solidifies your exemplification of the uselessness and intellectual decreptitude of the conservative.

    Please, continue.

    • Agree: geokat62
  104. Everyone should read Anon’s critical response to TKK at #29. I think their debate is the key debate within the White Right in our era. Personally I think Anon has it right but it is complicated

  105. @Corvinus

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    “Except the fact of the matter is that the Holocaust occurred. So your entire argument is based on a false premise. It is unsettling to those on the fringe who madly insist they are “exposing the truth”, except that truth centers around confirmation bias, outright falsehoods, and specious reasoning”.

    Okay Corvinus the Cuckservative – why don’t you read the above piece and tell us specifically which points are just examples of confirmation bias, outright falsehoods and specious reasoning with respect to the Holocaust.

    Based upon the very extensive evidence Ron Unz has compiled, it seems impossible to accept the conventional and legally enforced version of the Holocaust – as even Christopher Hitchens intimated.

    Tell us more about the falseness of the premise that the Holocaust myth that is enforced is false?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @TKK
  106. @Sunshine

    The Stormer is fantastic. Anglin has been moving toward real life activism and direct action for a while now, which is exactly what’s needed. We know what the problems are, now we need to start to talk about how to deal with them.

  107. utu says:
    @Old and grumpy

    This is not about Hitler but about populist socio-economic strategy that works that as it happened, Hitler deployed it successfully in Germany to the benefit of Germans. I agree we should not talk about Hitler and should avoid invoking his name, however the only winning plan and strategy is, well, Hitlerian.

  108. KenH says:

    So it’s groypers vs. grifters. TPUSA and their acolytes were perturbed that their dog and pony show got interrupted by thoughtful individuals who asked well thought out questions about demographic displacement, conservative, inc. support of homosexuality, and our relationship with Israel.

    TPUSA could only dissemble, deflect and resort to canned retorts and one liners. They acted totally in bad faith and they debate in bad faith.

    Charlie Cuck was forced to admit that part of their mission is to police and marginalize the right wing “fringes”. They do this to virtue signal to the left but the left never reciprocates by policing their fringe.

    TPUSA and the cuckservatism, inc. fraudsters demonstrated that they will side with violent antifa thugs over peaceful and thoughtful pro-whites and critics of Jews and Israel. As it is they take left wing violence against them in stride while literally combusting if a pro-white asks a question that deviates from their carefully choreographed (((circuses))).

  109. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “He’s not fully American, but he can support the American nation, you know, like the French during the revolution? They weren’t American, but they were honoured by Americans. Like Fuentes is here?”

    And by extension of your own logic, so can newcomers from Kenya, Guatemala, and Singapore.

    Although, it seems to be either you are or you are not an American. That is what you larped about on a past thread. Now you are moving the goal posts. Remember, the French government supported the Revolution in large part to agitate Great Britain. But, in the end, the French conservatives assuredly did NOT agree with colonists “noble” goal of breaking apart from an empire led by a monarchy. They (French conservatives) ended up losing their heads over it.

    “Mixed-race individuals are going to be pretty interesting. His father European, his mother hispanic.”

    He’s not mixed race, he’s mixed up ethnically.

    You need another history lesson. Consider that in the late 1800’s/early 1900’s, Senator Henry Cabot Lodge articulated the necessity for literacy tests and other measures to weed out, at worst, or outright deny, at best, the inclusion of “new” immigrants into American society –> “It is found, in the first place, that the illiteracy test will bear most heavily upon the Italians, Russians, Poles, Hungarians, Greeks, and Asiatics, and lightly, or not at all, upon English-speaking emigrants. In other words, the races most affected by the illiteracy test are those whose emigration to this country has begun within the last twenty years and swelled rapidly to enormous proportions, races with which the English speaking people have never hitherto assimilated, and who are most alien to the great body of the people of the United States.”

    Interesting how you assume the redeemable qualities that only Anglo-Saxons possess, in the name of “fellow white brethren”. Ironically, you are opposed to non-white immigration even though your ancestors had been labeled being other than white and thus incapable and unworthy of assimilation. So, were those nativists egregious inaccurate of their assessment of YOUR people?

    Old-stock Americans, whose ancestors were Anglo-Saxon, clearly harbored hostility toward your kind, as evident by Senator Lodge. He stated the problem succinctly–Southern and Eastern Europeans were culturally corrosive. Anglo-Saxon ideals, i.e. the political and social aspects created by, from his perspective were being destroyed by waves of foreigners with their own culture and no desire to preserve nor adopt.

    To quote an Alt Right leader you know all too well, “It’s telling, is it not, how all of these foreigners and immigrants just happened to produce a new definition of American that included them, a definition that was not held by the Founding Fathers . Nor is it a coincidence that this self-serving definition was subsequently used to justify the largest invasion to have ever taken place in human history, an invasion that has severely weakened the once-mighty American nation.”

    Your ancestors were part of that invasion. You are an invasive species.

    “Someone like Fuentes who meets 2.5 of the criteria for western could probably be supported as a guest of the American nation.”

    According to Who/Whom? Who is setting this criteria? Who is enforcing it?

    “People who aren’t American can still support the American nation, but the magic dirt doesn’t magically make Not-Americans American.”

    You just love trying to have your cake and eat it, too.

    “Their culture did not change, they did not suddenly start living in wigwams and dividing up into small tribes.”

    The English culture did change. It was transformed by non-English immigrants to the Thirteen Colonies. Magic dirt, indeed.

    “Because you don’t believe what you say, Cuckservative.”

    You act as if that term is pejorative. Sadly, it’s lost its cache.

    “You mock the notion that the nation is in fact facing a danger of epic proportions, because you are an oblivious solipsist who doesn’t understand the west, Christianity, America, or the dangers it faces.”

    Perceived dangers, Cochise.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  110. MEFOBILLS says:

    Conservatism’s sterile, economics-only orthodoxy failed to prevent America’s cultural and demographic collapse.

    The false neo-liberal finance capitalist orthodoxy CAUSED IT.

    Women are induced into the workforce in the late 60’s and early 70’s. New debts pay old debts.

    Jobs are exported to Asia in 90’s to get wage arbitrage. Wall Street Green-mails industry to go to China or else. Green mailing is finance actors taking your company’s assets and then putting it on a bankers ledger, even though finance actors don’t own the stock. The conceit is that actor will either end up owning your company at the end of the green mail gambit, or actor will push the stock in price, and then exit with a profit anyway. Carl Icahn is a good example of this sort of predator, who got away with screwing over many, and yet was feted as if he was some sort of genius.

    (((Our friends are especially competent in these sort of usury tactics.)))

    Finance capitalism doesn’t differentiate between productive capital and non productive financial instruments, as they are both counted in GDP. The non productive finance paper is euphemistically called “asset” as part of the trickery. The housing bubble in 90’s pushes house prices as if the housing stock actually improved, but what really happened is finance paper was shuffled around creating new mortgages, and hypothecating additional mortgage backed securities.

    The end result is that housing stock is priced too high, and family formation is then impacted. People stop having babies. K breeders stop having babies.

    Chamber of commerce type import turd world labor, to then take labor arbitrage. These third world people are then shoved into public welfare, which is a cost to the commons and a drain on the taxpayer. Chamber of commerce types are then stealing the life energy of both the middle class taxpayer, and the alien invader. Wages are driven down, so that finance capital has more value by comparison. Plutocracy arises. Alien invader has large families, as they tend to be R breeders.

    There is really nothing good about finance capitalism… it is a false ideology that says only prices matter, and the reality is that much of life is not priced.

    What is the price of losing your country, your history?

    As an aside, industrial capitalism works just fine with nationalism. China is using their industrial capitalism to good effect, and Russia stealthily uses its national credit to improve its commons and prevent finance bubbles.

    American’s have been hoaxed and are living in a false matrix. The money power is immensely important- it is a (the?) central variable. Even GDP is calculated incorrectly… for example the housing bubble showed up as GDP productivity. This sort of false accounting is head caved in tier thinking, yet here we are.

    When you have these sort of gross errors in thinking and economics, it can only be due to massive hoaxing via usury funding… and I will give you one guess as to (((who))) you will find if you dig deep enough. The agents of mammon either induce errors in thought and and law for their own self aggrandizement, or they block moral measures or good law to stop the usury.

    The Church has also been infiltrated, especially Zionist Christianity. This can only be done with money power to fund the false activities.

    • Agree: Kiel
  111. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    The Holocaust happened. If you want to believe otherwise, that is your own ignorance. I’m not spilling precious digital ink trying to convince you to the contrary. I’ve been down that road before with others.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  112. @Old and grumpy

    Hitler a coward and hypochondria c loser How far did you chase a Jew for that insight?
    Yeah, you are a boomer. I’ve got that problem myself. I am right now digging myself out from
    under a lifetime of semophile history. Try it. It can still be done

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  113. @Anon

    Good point, I see Bolshevik reappearing on the young left. I’d like to demask the Antifa leadership to see how many are Jews

  114. @Sunshine

    Sean Hannity is Mark Levin’s sock puppet.

    (He’s the right’s Fredo Cuomo.)

    • Agree: lavoisier
  115. Harbinger says:

    “question for Crenshaw on demographics change, specifically how non-white voters heavily go left”

    Yup and in the video Crenshaw replies on the fact that by 2045, the US will be a minority white country, by stating:

    “The only colours that matter in this country are the red, white and blue”

    Absolutely pathetic.
    Does he think the colours red, white and blue matter in Detroit, or any other predominantly black, infested sh*thole in the US?
    It’s just unbelievable, not the fact that these sycophants are stating what they are, but people actually vote for them.

    The following is for the idiotic Americans, who haven’t quite cottoned onto the fact that when they become a minority, all hell will break loose and the murders of whites will go through the roof. Sure, hell will be breaking loose before that, but you’ll have absolutely NO representation in politics and you will be viewed upon as a second class citizens. There will be no point, as a moronic liberal, by then stating to a black man “but we supported and helped your people” when all you’re going to get back is “you enslaved and murdered us and now it’s payback.”

    When will America wake up and realise that whitey has been earmarked for extinction and you will never, ever, ever find your saviour in the world of politics? You’d better wake up fast and smell the coffee and this goes out to the right, still supporting the republicans/conservatives/libertarians just as much as it does to the left. You have one ideology you need to start supporting and that’s white nationalism. If you don’t then you may as well, walk down to the hood, give all you have to some blacks and ask them to put a cap in “yo ass” to save them the bother in the future. Because that’s what’s coming, unless you wake up.

  116. @Anonymous

    I hear you. I could have written something like this myself just 3 years ago. Then I tried some race realism or sociobiology. Why don’t you take a look at it?

  117. TKK says:
    @dfordoom

    It’s the close cousin to denying the Holocaust. It’s a non starter- but as you can see- the entire thread is hijacked by Israel hatred and hysteria.

    It’s navel gazing, and is a luxury to wallow in esoteric bullshit when a limited number of viable full time employment opps for white people who are not Stanford STEM whiz kids are shrinking everyday.

    Israel does not force Smithfield Meats to solely hire illegal Latinos for their slaughterhouses. Israel did not pistol whip Bezos or Ebay to place all their call centers in India. Israel did not strong arm Straight Talk to place their entire customer care tele- center in Costa Rica.

    If they are no jobs for the white working class- voting will be far far down on their to do list.

    And don’t be too tongue in cheek- they do fawn over Hitler on this site. By and large, its just a circle jerk.

    • LOL: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  118. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous says this:
    and I want an explicit answer on what is the problem with brown people? This is the internet if you want to say the problem with brown people is their brownness just say it, same goes if you think they are genetically leftist. This is the internet you can just say they stink and are fat.

    When Monotonous clearly answered Anonymous 382 question previously:

    y0u can play hypothetical games all day long, as long as you ignore reality. There’s a reason most brown countries are essentially socialist, and it depends on the previously presented hierarchy. Populations with lower mean IQ’s and lower time preferences (genetics) will create inferior cultures, and will inevitably tend towards a socialist outlook in an attempt to assuage subliminal feelings of inferiority, envy and revenge. The easy solution is to drag everyone down to a lowest common denominator via force (politics), all of it rationalized with a veneer of egalitarian pseudo-morality.

    Anonymous 382, I don’ t think Monotonous could have been any more precise or clear in his language.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  119. TKK says:
    @Flint Clint

    Where’s the cite Hitch denied it? I have every book he every published.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @Ron Unz
  120. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Achilles Wannabe

    Hitler a coward and hypochondria c loser How far did you chase a Jew for that insight?
    Yeah, you are a boomer. I’ve got that problem myself. I am right now digging myself out from
    under a lifetime of semophile history. Try it. It can still be done

    Achilles, you are awesome. It takes immense bravery to re-write your operating narrative, especially late in life.

    Many people don’t have the stones to take on that task. Bravo.

  121. @Patricus

    Historical context counts. Widow’s, invalid and old age pensions were all regarded as socialist then. So was any claim that a government had any responsibility to make sure that there was full employment. [email protected]

  122. MEFOBILLS says:
    @TKK

    israel does not force Smithfield Meats to solely hire illegal Latinos for their slaughterhouses. Israel did not pistol whip Bezos or Ebay to place all their call centers in India. Israel did not strong arm Straight Talk to place their entire customer care tele- center in Costa Rica.

    That is some pretty good sophistry and apologetics.

    Finance capitalism is Jewish thought — really state sponsored usury. It overturned the American System of Economy fully by 1913.

    The funding for the usurpation of America can be traced to London, and then to the (((usual))) suspects.

    Under the original American System of economy, the debates centered around how to “improve American labor” through national health, improvement in education, and improving the commons, using water wheels for power, and then later steam.

    There were explicit discussions about how America could never use “coolie” labor, meaning that it would not compete with low priced labor one to one, but would instead use the “powers of production” meaning machine power coupled with American ingenuity and state credit.

    So, yes, importing third world labor to man slaughter houses is indeed Jewish thought at inception, and Jewish actions usurping the trajectory of America.

    The “bankster” class and plutocracy won out – to our detriment.

    • Replies: @Achilles Wannabe
  123. @Corvinus

    “And by extension of your own logic, so can newcomers from Kenya, Guatemala, and Singapore.”

    Yes, they can be guests, or tourists. But they aren’t American, and it’s highly likely they aren’t western either. So why should they be permitted to be resident in the nation of America and impose their own norms and their own mores and their systems of government? Why should they be permitted to ‘change’ the West?

    They shouldn’t.

    And Nick Fuentes isn’t a Kenyan, a Guatemalan, or a Singaporean. He is more proximate to the American nation because he is part European (I don’t know the full particulars), Christian, and is observedly adherent to the Greco-Roman philosophical and legal legacy.

    Given those racial and cultural factors it’s far more likely, to use the proposition terminology, that Fuentes would accept the propositions of the American nation then the examples you have offered. Because race and culture are connected. There is no such thing as tabula rasa man.

    So now you’re trying to argue that the French gave massive military support to a venture that they knew would result in a break from the British monarchy, but they didn’t want the separation from the British monarchy? That is absurd. If the French had taken the monarchist position they wouldn’t have provided aid. You claim they were trying to fight the British but preserve the British crown. This is yet another nonsensical thing you’ve said.

    Why do you think your examples of earlier failed attempts to control immigration are of any import? Benjamin Franklin was right about the Germans. Henry Cabot Lodge was right about all of the Europeans ethnicities he wanted to prohibit from entering the United States.

    It’s not about me. Yes, every iteration of the nativist sentiment in the United States has been correct to seek to prohibit immigration. Because despite the benefits of that immigration to those immigrant communities over the decades, it has created the conditions for conflict worse then any recorded in human history.

    I don’t claim to be a full Anglo-American, I’m only part Anglo-American, with other European admixtures.

    But I understand the necessity of defining the West and defining the United States in such a way that they maintain some semblence of their intended form, and we retain some semblence of Christian civilization.

    It’s really that simple Corvinus. If the African population explosion is permitted to smash into Europe every trace of Christian Europe will be extinguished and it will become a chaotic hell-hole where the best outcome, the best, is a stultified Islamic Caliphate.

    Saint Peters and Saint Pauls Outside the Walls really, as in actually, really, will have all realistic images removed, because it is Haram to represent in realism anything related to blessed Allah, and they will have their crucifixes smashed and melted down and they will become Mosques.

    “According to Who/Whom? Who is setting this criteria? Who is enforcing it?”

    The references for western you know – Christian, European, respectful of the Greco-Roman legacy.

    You are purity spiralling agaom as well. At the founding the United States was Angl0-American with a moderate admixture of other adjacent European nations.

    As to what is going to happen to people of mixed race and imputed dual loyalties?

    Here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271754360_Sleeping_with_the_enemy_An_essay_on_mixed_identity_in_the_context_of_violent_conflict

    There is some empirical reference for what occurs within identity conflicts to persons of ambiguous identities and imputed loyalties.

    The alternative to mass repatriations and removals is the collapse of the political entity called the United States of America into multiple ethnostates and violence on a scale that has not been seen on the continent since the American Indian was very nearly genocided and assimilated into nonexistence.

    The fact that the white settlers didn’t intend it didn’t mean it didn’t happen, any more than the fact that the architects of the 1965 Hart-Celler Act didn’t intend for 85 million first- and second-generation immigrants to colonize the USA means that they didn’t do so. Intentions are irrelevant. Consequences are not derived from intentions, but from actions.

    Having the former global superpower collapse into Yugoslavia with nukes is a nightmare scenario for everyone on the planet, even for the Chinese, the Iranians, and the Russians, who would be inclined to welcome the removal of the US military’s leash on their ambitions and strategic objectives. That is the alternative the propositionals and melting potheads and dual citizens and immigrants have chosen. You seem to prefer political collapse and mass death to giving up their self-serving 20th-century historical myths.

    There are no nice choices anymore.

    Of course the other altnerative is that whites go the way of the Boer and become a terrorised minority. Or that they go the way of the Native Americans, and simply cease to exist. Those are worse then allowing Somalis to take power in Minnesota, or Latinos in the South West, in my opinion.

    “You just love trying to have your cake and eat it, too.”

    It’s not that. It will be extremely difficult for people to accept that they aren’t American. Simply getting to the cake-slice would be frankly almost impossible.

    That simple distinction might even restore the viability of civic nationalism, temporarily.

    Because the Jewish and immigrant subversion of the American nation has now created a situation where there are as many paradigms of the United States as there are immigrants – and most of them have absolutely zero relationship to the Constitution and the nation of America.

    By simply stating that the American nation constitutes who is American, anyone who is outside that category could only obtain the status of being American via actual adherence to American preferences. Small government, free-speech, a vigorous second amendment, low-taxes, Christian religion, individual rights, etc.

    There would be no more aliens and hostiles and enemies standing up and saying ‘these aren’t our values’ when referring to the constitution or any other time-honoured American practice.

    “The English culture did change. It was transformed by non-English immigrants to the Thirteen Colonies. Magic dirt, indeed”.

    Whoooooosh. You missed the point entirely. The point was that the English immigrants didn’t become Native Americans. Just like today, every steaming Pakistani or Indian or Syrian or Han Chinese doesn’t become American, or even western.

    “You act as if that term is pejorative. Sadly, it’s lost its cache.”

    Well I’m glad that you now accept the designation. It suits you very well. It’s meant as a perjorative, and just like everything else it’s character as a perjorative has nothing to do with your tiny mind.

    “Perceived dangers, Cochise.”

    And there it is. That’s why that essay was written for you. How very revealing. If you believe there is no danger or demerits in the outcome of the October revolution currently underway in the United States you are actually an enemy.

    If you don’t understand the United States, the West, Christianity, free-market economics and any semblance of freedom is in mortal danger you are a cretin, as well as a cuckservative.

    How very revealing. Conservatives don’t see danger, presumably because they are historically illiterate imbeciles.

    In every single institution there is, from the judiciary, to the academy, to the military, to the goverment itself, the United States is in an absolute crisis.

    The degree of your ignorance is matched only be the degree of your gormlessness.

    The United States is actually already functionally dead. It’s dead. It’s no more a nation then the Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman, or Yugoslavian or pre-partition Indian states were nations.

    All that remains now, thanks to creatures such as yourself, is the form of the partition or reconquista.

    At the very least, all immigration from non-white countries should be halted. And actually probably from any country in Europe with a socialist government.

    All net transfers from Americans to Not-Americans should be halted. These are simply staggering, and a good explanation for why Americans can’t afford to have children, whilst Fake-Americans have their welfare broods. They’re being robbed at both ends.

    Then repatriations should commence.

    The alternative is eventual vicious and violent ethnic cleansing. With the victor uncertain.

    Americans are not going to debate with Somalis or Indians or Jews or Wahabist Arabs what American is and what it means to be American.

    • Agree: MEFOBILLS
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Ace
  124. @TKK

    He never denied it outright. In a Canadian debate he said the official version might be false and other then what is legally enforced, in a defence of David Irving and free speech.

  125. @Corvinus

    What version of it happened.

    If you’re going to go on Ron Unz’s website, you might pay him the courtesy of reading his American Pravda piece on the Holocaust. You might find it quite illuminating.

    Until you’ve read it, don’t comment on this website on the Holocaust.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  126. Anonymous[672] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    That only makes sense if you assume Monotonous’s premise that leftism is genetic with the unstated assumption that the leftism gene is also at the same time a brownness gene. In which case we are back to square one. Is the problem with brown people the fact that they are genetically leftist or that they are brown? If monotonous wanted to be explicit he should say leftism is brownness. Which is a hilariously stupid thing to say. And even that shouldn’t make it impossible for monotonous to answer a hypothetical about rightist brown immigrants. If his problem is economic leftism he should say something about how he would welcome hypothetical economic rightist brown immigrants or maybe he wouldn’t for other reasons. would that be too hard to do. Or he could simply say that brown immigrants are bad because of something else, then that issue could be discussed. but instead to weasel out of the hypothetical and claim leftism is brownness, and then accept that as premise with which to dismiss a hypothetical demonstrates an inflexible boomer mind.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  127. Ron Unz says:
    @TKK

    Where’s the cite Hitch denied it? I have every book he every published.

    Sure, Christopher Hitchens never *publicly* denied the Holocaust. But once in the 1990s when he’d had a few too many drinks, he shocked all of his New Yorker friends by telling them he’d discovered that it was all just a total hoax, which produced a big media scandal when it came out a couple of years later during the bitter Clinton impeachment battles. I discussed the whole story in my big Holocaust Denial article from last year:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/#secretive-holocaust-denial

    I’m glad I happened to glance over this thread…

  128. Ace says:
    @Buck Ransom

    Great description. I like Carlson a lot but I was stunned recently when he announced, “America is an idea.” Quote unquote.

  129. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Anonymous

    Is the problem with brown people the fact that they are genetically leftist or that they are brown?

    It has to do with evolution. The northern tribes that survived the ice ages, especially the fourth ice ages, developed along different pathways than the darker peoples that lived in the more equatorial climes.

    Han Chinese, Japanese… Koreans, North Western Caucasoids developed shaming or guilt cultures due to the need for collective survival. They developed a future orientation as the seasons were so demanding; to not plan for the future meant not surviving the harsh winter.

    They developed counting, and followed the stars to then follow the herds. Counting was done in lunar (increments of 30) or in calendar fractions (12), and then finally in decimal (10 fingers).

    Evolution in turn has to do with IQ. These genetic factors make the northern tribes and the “brown” people different enough that the civilizations they create are different.

    The global south “brown people” are moving north. They do not bear high civilization, they do not innovate, they can barely maintain. The global south movement is both push and pull.

    They are escaping themselves (push) and are (pulled) to the north by brain dead liberal dupes, who think all tribes of people are the same. And the duping is done by our (((plutocracy))) in order to self aggrandize their in-group at the expense of others.

    This in-group is also an ice-age cohort, so it should have high trust and morality encoded, but instead it also took a special evolutionary pathway…. that of parasitism. The parasite has learned how to live on and extract from others over thousands of years.

    Unz is a HBD site, so I always assume that people are aware of the link between race and IQ, and that there are natural divisions amongst the races of men.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anonymous
  130. @Ace

    What idea would that be?….Native Born White Americans being voted into a White Racial Minority-White Racial Foreigner within the borders of America by Asian LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and their highly RACIALIZED nonwhite US Born Asian Children?

    • Replies: @Ace
  131. @KenH

    The Trump Administration is aiding and abetting the violent Antifa who are violently assaulting Trump’s White Male Voting Bloc.

    Trump is….in a deep genetic sense….a born grifter-genetically programmed.

    Two weeks ago, Trump proclaims his enthusiasm for mass LEGAL IMMIGRANTION from Han China……Trump is not at war with China….Trump wants to annihilate his Working Class White Male Voting Bloc…..

    • Replies: @KenH
  132. Rahan says:

    Concerning some socialist posters here, I’d like to give them a bit of a hat tip.

    It IS possible for reds to be socially conservative. Aside from a few cuck countries such as Slovenia, the Czech Republic, and Estonia, the rest of Eastern Europe plus Russia have socialist and communist parties whose values are law&order, patriorism, family values, guarded borders, pro-army, pro-Christianity, and very LGBT-skeptical.

    You look at election photos and vids from over there, the red candidates will pose with icons and crosses, and will rant about child trannies in the West.

    If you examine the poll results over here: https://data.europa.eu/euodp/en/data/dataset/S2251_91_4_493_ENG
    The difference between the EU “progressive democracies” and EU “conservative democracies” will instantly come into focus. The difference between “tranny teachers at my kid’s school? Sure! I hope my kid becomes a trynny too!” and “tranny teachers at my kid’s school?! Honey, you get my pichfork, while I get the torches going!”

    And in the conservative democracies, the socialists and the commies tend to have the social value system of Western “far-right crypto-Hitler ethno-terrorists of hate”.

    So it is more than possible to have socially conservative socialists and communists who care about the workers and pensioners of the nation, and yet would throw through the nearest window any advocate of opening the borders to the Third World, or importing a million Somalis, or chopping off the willies of little boys in the name of human rights, or telling young people they should not have families and should not procreate.

    The question is that the overton window has shifted so much in the West, that a Croatian or Latvian socialist would sound like “literaly Hitler” to the Western pearl-clutchers, and an actual conservative or nationalist from the East–their first sentence would trigger terrorism alarms and SWAT teams would swoop in:)

    (Which is the reason why, while the Eastern half remains like this, it will never have white nationalist mass shootings. Because these people have real political representation on the highest levels, and their elected representative say quite openly the speak-crimes that get you unpersoned in the Anglosphere or North Europe)

    Either this “sane conservatism across the whole political spectrum” speads to the West, or GloboHomo spreads to the East. It’s not a done deal, in spite of the still existing imbalance of economic and pop cultural power, because GloboHomo seems to be dissolving the civilizational foundation on which it stands faster than it can infect the rest of the world.

    So, getting back to the “conservative socialists/commies” issues. Yes, they do exist, and are mainstream parties in most democracies east of Austria. The question is can this type of “sane leftism” come back into the Western mainstream.

    Can there be an “alt-left” uprising against “Socialism.inc”?

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  133. dickr says:
    @Eric135

    South Africa was a testing ground for the destruction of the West. Just like Rhodesia was a test run for the destrution of Souh Africa.
    I’m from there, I know. We always said they are aiming for the West, esp. Christendom. And its always the same people involved. The church is also being thoroughly compromised.
    In a way its sweet revenge for us to see the West, who royally screwed us over, go down. The pinnacle would be Israel suffering the same fate, on account of the same arguments.
    On the other hand we know the pain, and wish it on no one.

    • Agree: Eric135
  134. @EliteCommInc.

    @EliteCommInc

    And there are several issues that are outstanding to conservative ethos and practice

    2. integrity of objective realities

    And here is where the scent of cow manure fills the air.

    It’s an objective reality that free market capitalism has failed to fix the third world.

    Oh but we can’t talk about that in front of conservatives. That’s rude and unhelpful. By “objective realities” you mean issues we can talk about as long as they don’t infringe on conservative ideology. Don’t worry third world, free market capitalism will eventually fix your broken countries. It’s just taking a lot longer than our conservative brain trust estimated.

    What the hell is the plan you guys? The Dems have a simple plan which is more immigrants = more votes. What is the conservative strategy here? Post your eloquent list of principles in Spanish?

    We might as well start burying guns if you think the status quo is working. Conservative Inc ignores the failures of capitalism while staring blankly at the simple liberal strategy. They did it in California and plan to do it nationally.

    Third rail is the only way. Stop trying to sell tax cuts or abortion bans. Embrace populist economics which means reducing inequality. No more tax cuts for the wealthy.

  135. Unlike some here I don’t believe Conservative Inc is controlled opposition or a Hebrew conspiracy.

    It’s not that complicated.

    It’s mostly just a bunch of football watching White guys that really, really, really want to believe that “big guvment” is always the problem.

    If there is a conspiracy then it comes from AM radio and the primary conspirators are rich White guys pretending to care about the country. The biggest AM con artist of all time is a rich and childless White guy that will censor any questions about race. Stop blaming the Jews and face the fact that Conservative Inc is mostly a cash grab led by White guys.

    • Replies: @Dannyboy
    , @Harbinger
  136. Antares says:
    @dfordoom

    Hey. I’ve got a great idea. In order to provide a viable popular alternative to Conservatism Inc why don’t dissident rightists start posting stuff about how much they admire Hitler? Fawning over the biggest loser and the most hated man in history – that’s the way to win friends and influence people.

    Understandable, but wrong. People are just beginning to learn about history. That is also your history so you are part of it, willingly or not.

    Whenever anything is said that goes against the colonisation of Palestine, the wars fought by US for Israel, the cuckanisation of our societies and so on … Hitler, the nazis and the holocaust stand in the way. These are THEIR tools, not ours, and should therefore be neutralised.

    They are there tools because they have defined them. Change the definition (by learning about history) and they will loose their tools.

    There is no objective reason to blame the nazis for more then what the US, the Sovjet Union, Israel and Britain have done against humanity. We have to know the facts or we will repeat history, what is already happening.

    • Agree: utu, Eric135
    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  137. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “If you’re going to go on Ron Unz’s website, you might pay him the courtesy of reading his American Pravda piece on the Holocaust. You might find it quite illuminating.”

    I read the entire piece.

    “Until you’ve read it, don’t comment on this website on the Holocaust.”

    LOL, OK, Sarah Jeong!

  138. If Elizabeth Warren or Joe Biden wins the election….don’t consent to be governed by a Democratic POTUS………A Democratic POTUS would be the direct consequence of foreign interference in US elections:55 years of the Democratic Party importing it’s highly RACIALIZED nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc…..LEGALLY….Virginia flipped Blue because of this….

    The Democratic Party=THE CRUSH WHITEY’S FUCKING SKULL IN PARTY!!!!

  139. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “And by extension of your own logic, so can newcomers from Kenya, Guatemala, and Singapore.”

    “Yes, they can be guests, or tourists. But they aren’t American, and it’s highly likely they aren’t western either.”

    You are like Lucy with the football. You offer a position, then yank it out from underneath from Charlie Brown at the last second. The fact of the matter is the three groups I mentioned, through legal means, are able to become Americans, similar to that of the ancestors of Nick Fuentes.

    “So why should they be permitted to be resident in the nation of America and impose their own norms and their own mores and their systems of government? Why should they be permitted to ‘change’ the West?”

    The same thing was said about Eastern and Southern Europeans, and you seemingly give them a free pass. You are being hypocritical here. You pick and choose which groups of people are capable of assimilating while ignoring the historical record of nativists who opposed those same groups you support. Then, you employ the same arguments as nativists! Interesting how you assume the redeemable qualities that only Anglo-Saxons possess, in the name of “fellow white brethren”. Ironically, you are opposed to non-white immigration even though your ancestors had been labeled being other than white and thus incapable and unworthy of assimilation. So, were those nativists egregious inaccurate of their assessment of YOUR people?

    “And Nick Fuentes isn’t a Kenyan, a Guatemalan, or a Singaporean. He is more proximate to the American nation because he is part European (I don’t know the full particulars),”

    Either one is or one is not an American. There is no “promixate” here. His kind of people–Hispanics–have been labeled by the Alt Right as being leeches and louts. Yet, you support this group from entering our shores and infiltrating our institutions. You are between a rock and a hard place here.

    “Because race and culture are connected. There is no such thing as tabula rasa man.”

    In your opinion.

    “So now you’re trying to argue that the French gave massive military support to a venture that they knew would result in a break from the British monarchy, but they didn’t want the separation from the British monarchy?”

    That’s not what I said. The French hoped to swoop if and when the British monarchy was removed, and regain the prestige lost as a result of the Seven Years War. The French were not preserving the British crown. However, they were taken aback that the colonists would create a government that was other than monarchial in form, which would come back to haunt them. The financial pressures France faced at the time were only made worse by the cost of aiding the Americans. These fiscal troubles soon spiraled out of control and played a large role in the start of the French Revolution in 1789.

    “Benjamin Franklin was right about the Germans. Henry Cabot Lodge was right about all of the Europeans ethnicities he wanted to prohibit from entering the United States.”

    Yet they became Americanized. So indeed it was magic dirt!

    “It’s not about me. Yes, every iteration of the nativist sentiment in the United States has been correct to seek to prohibit immigration. Because despite the benefits of that immigration to those immigrant communities over the decades, it has created the conditions for conflict worse then any recorded in human history.”

    Which is your opinion.

    “I don’t claim to be a full Anglo-American, I’m only part Anglo-American, with other European admixtures.”

    What are your exact ethnic ethnicities? Because if any part is from Germany or Eastern/Southern Europe, then you are NOT American, and indeed Benjamin Franklin and Henry Cabot Lodge were decidedly correct about your kind.

    “But I understand the necessity of defining the West and defining the United States in such a way that they maintain some semblence of their intended form, and we retain some semblence of Christian civilization.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “Saint Peters and Saint Pauls Outside the Walls really, as in actually, really, will have all realistic images removed, because it is Haram to represent in realism anything related to blessed Allah, and they will have their crucifixes smashed and melted down and they will become Mosques.”

    You’re being overly dramatic here.

    “You are purity spiralling agaom as well. At the founding the United States was Angl0-American with a moderate admixture of other adjacent European nations.”

    Along with blacks and Native Americans.

    “As to what is going to happen to people of mixed race and imputed dual loyalties?”

    What COULD occur. It’s speculation.

    “The alternative to mass repatriations and removals is the collapse of the political entity called the United States of America into multiple ethnostates and violence on a scale that has not been seen on the continent since the American Indian was very nearly genocided and assimilated into nonexistence.”

    I’ll wait for the movie to come out.

    “Having the former global superpower collapse into Yugoslavia with nukes is a nightmare scenario for everyone on the planet…”

    , even for the Chinese, the Iranians, and the Russians, who would be inclined to welcome the removal of the US military’s leash on their ambitions and strategic objectives. That is the alternative the propositionals and melting potheads and dual citizens and immigrants have chosen. You seem to prefer political collapse and mass death to giving up their self-serving 20th-century historical myths.

    “It will be extremely difficult for people to accept that they aren’t American.”

    Like yourself! You aren’t American. You do not lay claim to being a Heritage American. Your ancestors were immigrants, who were generally reviled. But what does Heritage American even mean, not just to normies/the mushy middle, but to the Alt Right? Consider the immortal words of Vox Day –> The United States is home to people of many different ethnic origins. As a result, American culture and law does not equate nationality with race or ethnicity, but with citizenship and permanent allegiance. A damning indictment on white Europeans who opened up the floodgates to other “alien”, but white, Europeans to invade our shores, nuzzle with our nubile women, and run roughshod over our liberties. Indeed, nativists from the mid and late 1800’s were not too keen, to put it mildly, on several European ethnic groups, chiefly the Irish and the Italians, arriving here because of their genetically inferiority and social incompetence. Recall it did not matter that these newcomers were white, it mattered to nativists that these two groups were utterly incapable of fitting in. Nativists were convinced the Irish and Italians possessed in-born tendencies that would perversely transform the American landscape as created by Anglo-Saxons. So, using Voxian logic–remember, he is a 3SD+ mega genius–our ancestors who came AFTER the founding of our great nation are not “American”, and they assuredly are not “Heritage Americans”.

    You have to go back.

    “Because the Jewish and immigrant subversion of the American nation…”

    Like your ancestors.

    “Whoooooosh. You missed the point entirely. The point was that the English immigrants didn’t become Native Americans.”

    The point was that the non-English immigrants didn’t become like the English.

    “Just like today, every steaming Pakistani or Indian or Syrian or Han Chinese doesn’t become American, or even western.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “You act as if that term is pejorative. Sadly, it’s lost its cache.”

    “The United States is actually already functionally dead.”

    Another opinion on your part.

    “Then repatriations should commence.”

    Not going to happen.

    “The alternative is eventual vicious and violent ethnic cleansing. With the victor uncertain.”

    You mean one of several alternatives.

    “Americans are not going to debate with Somalis or Indians or Jews or Wahabist Arabs what American is and what it means to be American.”

    Considering that Americans have debated in the past with Germans or Italians or Poles what American is and what it means to be American, this debate will rage on.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  140. Anonymous[672] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    At no point do you answer the hypothetical about economically-rightist brown people. Who do exist. You are dodging the issue point blank. Would you welcome economically-rightist brown immigrants? Or is your problem something else. Can’t you just answer the hypothetical?

    I will address your points as a courtesy, but don’t make the mistake of trying to make the discussion about them. I made a hypothetical first and you and monotonous refuse to answer it.

    I am HBD, but that doesn’t mean I think genetics %100 percent determines everything. But I do believe it does set a limit on how high IQ an individual can become and does matter in other behavior such as criminality and eusociality. But there are behaviors that can be taught and are not so reliant on genes. That is my position. A weak point with your post is that it assumes socialism or economic leftism is a low-IQ and global south thing to do. When one looks at the history of socialism one finds mostly European thinkers, the same goes for economic rightism. It seems that the global south has not produced its own politics and economics until the Europeans colonized them. But even after colonization the global south has not become socialist, for all its history latin america has been dictatorships and the same with africa. Your incorrect about poor, brown, countries being more socialist comes from a ridiculous ranking of how big a government has put out by conservatism inc.’s heritage foundation which ranks countries with weak rule of law, where it by defaults becomes rule of money as economically less free than countries with rule of law.

    Oddly enough it seems to be northerners who are more socialist, Canada is whiter and more to the north and they have public healthcare, the same could be said for most of Nordic Europe, and North Korea, the USSR etc. Look at the Italian elections https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Italian_general_election it is northerners who are voting communist. It might also be due to urbanization, but is urbanization not a proxy for civilization. The most leftist latin America country is the pretty white Cuba https://www.unz.com/gdurocher/white-power-in-cuba/

    I would say being economically leftist requires good genes and eusociality, and tate economic rightism is compatible with having large amounts of low-iq people with bad money management skills(mindless consumers). The idea that leftism is a brown thing, and therefore related to defective genes. Is completely ridiculous on multiple levels. But that is a debate for another time. I want you and Monotonous to address the hypothetical.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  141. Ross Perot (RIP) could have left behind the “Perotist” party of national socialists to become a formidable power but in the end it was squandered on his indecisions… a third political party with about 20% of the electorate to compete with entrenched parties might have been much better legacy for him and the nation.

  142. Dannyboy says:
    @John Johnson

    Stop blaming the Jews and face the fact that Conservative Inc is mostly a cash grab led by White guys.

    Who just so happen to enthusiastically support every last thing their Jew Masters (Kristol, Goldberg, Podoretz etc…) do, from ill-conceived Middle East interventions and Russian sanctions all the way to homosexual “marriage” and unfettered immigration.

    Sure there are plenty of traitor whites to blame, just look at this cunt Corvinus as an example. But money is the mother’s milk of politics, and Jews have always been the financiers behind the Left and the Fake Right, aka. Conservatism Inc.

    • Agree: Eric135
  143. @David In TN

    Agreed. If “brown folk” were Conservative with their own Bill of Rights, mexico would not be a failed state run by narco- terrorists.

    • Agree: Dannyboy
    • Replies: @David In TN
  144. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Anonymous

    At no point do you answer the hypothetical about economically-rightist brown people. Who do exist. You are dodging the issue point blank. Would you welcome economically-rightist brown immigrants? Or is your problem something else. Can’t you just answer the hypothetical?

    There are always “exception makes the rule illogic” arguments. Oh look at these exceptions, ergo your argument is invalid. That is not a good way to look at the world.

    In terms of statistical distributions about populations, there are always outliers. If you use a Venn diagram, there is always an intercept of like minded people, regardless of their race. This means that there are indeed “brown people” of high IQ who can carry high civilization. What is the percentage of this type within their population, and are they overwhelmed by their less gifted brothers?

    Would you welcome economically-rightist brown immigrants?

    How do you means test for this? What happens to their children? I am not hostile to them and think they are great, but if I was a policy maker in Washington, there would be zero immigration, and that includes economically-rightist brown immigrants. We really don’t need any extra population of any type. There are enough wombs and sperm to reproduce ourselves with the right incentives. Why would any sane country immigrate people who ON AVERAGE are proving to be a problem?

    You say this, which I believe also, and can be proven with population statistics:

    I am HBD, but that doesn’t mean I think genetics %100 percent determines everything. But I do believe it does set a limit on how high IQ an individual can become and does matter in other behavior such as criminality and eusociality. But there are behaviors that can be taught and are not so reliant on genes. That is my position.

    So, what is the genetic component, and what is the environmental component of behavior? And how does that manifest on a civilization scale? Are civilizations and expression of their genetics… their people, or is there magic soil?

    You know what I think: There is no magic soil. Civilizations are a function of their genetics, their race so to speak. And yes, there are always outliers and exceptions.

    I think socialism, especially national socialism works just fine when you have a single race country of people who have “shame culture” and do not dip into the public purse unless they are desperate.

    When you immigrate global south people, who are lower IQ, who ON AVERAGE, do not have shame, or are that productive, then you are asking for destruction.

    Part of the destruction is the overwhelming evidence that these people will vote for and shill for a type of socialism designed to strip and redistribute to them. Since they have no shame, they will stay on welfare and suck on the public purse forever.

    The message is that immigration is overwhelmingly bad, especially when one considers the AVERAGE characteristics of the immigrants (from the global south) as being incompatible with the host society, where said host society is nominally european and white.

    I would also say to Japan and China, and other HAN civilizations: You would be well advised to NOT IMMIGRATE the wrong kinds of people, as it is induces a permanent disability.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  145. Harbinger says:
    @John Johnson

    “Unlike some here I don’t believe Conservative Inc is controlled opposition or a Hebrew conspiracy..”

    Wow.
    The political system in the western civilisation is completely controlled by Jews or haven’t you figured this out yet?
    Here in the UK, I found out that Jews married themselves into the British aristocracy, going back to the 14th century. Our monarchy is riddled with Jews, which proves just why they have the contempt they have for the British people. But more so, something you seem to be unaware of is that our current prime minister, Boris Johnson (conservative) is a Jew. The previous prime minister (Theresa May) was a Jew. The previous prime minister (David Cameron) was a Jew. Those running against him (Ed Milliband) was a Jew. The very possible next prime minister, when Johnson is booted out, Jeremy Corbyn is a crypto Jew. Nigel Farage of Brexit party is also a crypto Jew.
    For a population of some 300,000 Jews, in a country of some 63+million non Jews, don’t you find it odd that Jews, should manage to be taking the top positions in government? Oddly enough, as stated earlier, our monarchy are also Jews. Added to all of that, within all political parties, in the UK, every one of them has a ‘Friends of Israel’ party within, which is essentially the ‘tail that wags the dog’ . You do not become a politician, or involved in politics unless you kiss the backside of Jews.

    In Jewish areas in London we have armed police patrolling Synagogues and other areas during Jewish holidays. Where was the protection for the indigenous girls, in Rotherham and all over the UK? It is precisely this that brings about even more hatred of Jews as the government is essentially telling you that you are second class citizens compared to Jews. There is also quite a lot of news coverage on the rise of ‘anti semitism’ here in the UK, in the papers, radio and print media, of course because some Jew gets called a “Jewish c*nt” by whomever and the police then rush out with their guns to the scene. This then becomes a nationwide crisis. I mean forget the hundreds of stabbings that happen in London, along with the thousands of fights and serious woundings that also occur. They’re goy after all.

    You have to be a completely and utterly ignorant to believe that this is NOT a Jewish conspiracy.
    Why do I say that? I say that because I was where you were about 13 years ago. I did not have the foggiest that Jews were involved, because like you and the rest of the goy population, I’d been fed the crap that Jews were a persecuted people and they were just picked on for being Jews. That was when I had an epiphany moment and I asked myself the question – “if we’re at war with Islam, who the hell is responsible for letting Muslims into the UK en mass?”
    Upon doing so my trip down the rabbit hole, I’d been on for the last 10 years, suddenly moved up a few gears. And then I started finding out truths I really wasn’t prepared to accept.
    I would provide links, but sadly the website with them is down, under maintenance, but it proves, overwhelmingly that Jews, in the UK and the USA were behind all the race acts and immigration laws, that resulted in the mass immigration of non Europeans into the west. And of course I found out much more.

    You’re just completely ignorant. You fail to see the reality here that Jews have total control of every establishment in the western civilisation. You fail to see that the current and I will state SERIOUS anti white sentiment in the USA is being driven, 100%, by Jews.
    It is precisely this behaviour that results in anti Jewish sentiment and the Jews, again, always complain of persecution and victimisation just because they’re Jewish. And the hypocrisy knows no bounds. All in charge of this demolition of western civilisation promote precisely the opposite in Israel. Only it can be an ethno state. No other country can. And they wonder why they’re so viciously loathed and despised? We’re constantly told how intelligent the Jews are and them having a higher IQ, when in reality, their behaviour shows them to be far from being intelligent. Their actions prove their gross arrogance and stupidity, either that or they want to promote their own genocide.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  146. E. Michael Jones is an evil, anti-White baby boomer globalizer from Philadelphia.

    E. Michael Jones and Pope Tango push mass immigration and multicultural mayhem.

    E. Michael Jones is a Catholic Globalizer Treasonite.

    Attention E. Michael Jones:

    RACE IS UPSTREAM FROM CIVILIZATION AND CULTURE

    CIVILIZATION AND CULTURE ARE DOWNSTREAM FROM RACE

    RACE IS A GENETIC CONSTRUCT

    THE EVIL CATHOLIC CHURCH IS GOING THIRD WORLD DODO

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Harbinger
  147. @Mulegino1

    No question, capitalism is Dr Jekyll to socialism’s Mr Hyde.

    • Agree: Mulegino1
  148. Dannyboy says:

    By any standard, Conservatism Inc. is an unfathomable failure.

    Unless the point is to lose.

    Which, of course, it is. Conservative Inc.’s purpose is to keep the American Right corralled and thwart a successful populist movement. Defeat is preferable to a success the bipartisan Establishment can’t control. Meanwhile, individuals within the “movement” personally profit while they manage the decline. By purging nationalists, Conservatism Inc. ensures there is no competition

    Mr Kirkpatrick nails it right there.

  149. @Harbinger

    Wow.
    The political system in the western civilisation is completely controlled by Jews or haven’t you figured this out yet?
    Here in the UK …(Goes on long rant about Jews in UK politics)

    Let’s keep this to Conservative Inc in the US.

    I could list 2 dozen non-Jewish millionaire conservatives that have been funding “capitalism is everything” think-tanks and media outlets. Are Jews forcing them to write those checks?

    We have someone in this thread that thinks all people are interchangeable and that they just need to be given a primer on Adam Smith and Ayn Rand when they enter the country. This is naive and yet the norm in mainstream conservatism. I’m not allowed to question this in conservative circles and yet those same conservatives will mock liberals for being PC. But according to you I’m supposed to write off their rigid resistance to a Jewish conspiracy?

    Have you considered the possibility that White conservative men want to believe that capitalism is everything?

    Or that at least wealthy Whites don’t really care if it is true or not and just want a tax cut?

    You seem to think I am “ignorant” of this Jewish conspiracy and yet the article is about a non-Jewish conservative leader trying to maintain the status quo.

    I don’t believe in a Jewish controlled Conservative Inc because I have been around too many White conservatives. They really, really want to believe that Detroit only has problems because of Democrats and that it just needs less government. The implications of this not being the case are too problematic for them. It’s a huge can of worms if we can’t just kick out the “big gubmint” Democrats to fix everything.

  150. peterAUS says:
    @Rahan

    Good comment.

    Not quite sure about this, though:

    …it will never have white nationalist mass shootings.

    You are overestimating, a bit, system(s) in those countries.
    Yes, people/politicians CAN say a lot more than in the West; the end result is still not good. Economy and quality of life for lower layers of society in particular. Migrants are there and appear to be settling down in government-provided areas.
    I can, with ease actually, see a veteran from Balkans wars digging out his PKM, after his daughter gets mass raped, and …ahm….visiting ..”migrant” neighboorhood for a payback.
    Especially in Monte Negro, Serbia, and Croatia.
    Interestingly, perhaps, I heard of several warning “drive-bys” there. Just warning shots/bursts. I could be wrong. If not, it’s interesting to notice nothing about those cases/events in the Western MSM. I think I could guess why.

  151. Anonymous[672] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    I am not hostile to them and think they are great, but if I was a policy maker in Washington, there would be zero immigration, and that includes economically-rightist brown immigrants. We really don’t need any extra population of any type.

    This is the answer I was looking for.

    Why would any sane country immigrate people who ON AVERAGE are proving to be a problem?

    Economic rightism, more population is a way that those who hold property can extract more rent, by lower wages and higher rents. Also Christian ethics plays a role.

    We agree on a lot, I too think the West has to stop population growth and the best way to do it in the west is by stopping immigrants or offering legal status in exchange for sterilization, and a one child policy on immigrants that have not been sterilized. The best way to stop overpopulation in africa and the middle east is simply forced sterilization.

    America could end illegal immigration, by ending birthright citizenship, strong enforcement against those who employ illegals and a national ID card. But it will never happen because of economic rightism. It is economic rightism and lack of democracy that creates all the social problems in the U.S. Illegals can’t get public assistance, they get public assistance because of their U.S citizen children, eliminate birthright citizenship and they can no longer access public benefits. Also do not think I am a mindless economic leftist, I don’t think throwing money at mostly black school districts will improve the black community. But I do think state intervention is needed to get american blacks to a functional level and create a black community that is an asset to the country instead of a liability. My posts are an effort to raise the level of discourse above its sad state and to make people consider that economic leftism is not the same as being a bleeding heart liberal or HBD denial.

    • Replies: @Oldtradesman
  152. So, getting back to the “conservative socialists/commies” issues. Yes, they do exist, and are mainstream parties in most democracies east of Austria. The question is can this type of “sane leftism” come back into the Western mainstream.

    Can there be an “alt-left” uprising against “Socialism.inc”?

    I have wondered this same question. Could we see a return to a worker’s socialism that actually puts the workers of the country first and not the globalist left?

    Of course it is possible but I don’t think the worker’s left in the West has the guts to call out liberalism. They are afraid that doing so will only encourage conservatism.

    What I do see possible is for an alt-left and alt-right to unite under the same populist or centrist banner. I see the beginnings of this in some countries like France. But it would have to be led by alt-right. Any alt-left movement that gains ground will have to deal with traditional left activists that are deeply offended by the idea of putting a US worker above one from the third world. So it would have to be led by alt-right and with strict rules in place.

    But something has to give. Both Conservative Inc and liberalism have shoddy foundations. This becomes obvious with certain lines of questioning as we see in this thread. Maybe they can convince themselves but in debate I don’t think they are as convincing as they think. This is why they prefer debates within their own controlled spheres of influence.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @dfordoom
  153. @Charles Pewitt

    I think this is an important angle to get at. There has been so much infighting over the last couple years. What the broad dissident right needs is a common objective. Destroying conservatism inc. is a worthy objective and a first step for any path forward for any faction.

    Sharpen your swords.

  154. Finally, something written on this site that is not from an out of touch boomer, or spiritual neocon boomers like Droveig.

  155. MEFOBILLS says:

    Economic rightism, more population is a way that those who hold property can extract more rent, by lower wages and higher rents. Also Christian ethics plays a role

    Yes, this need for growth is buried in the nature of money, especially bank credit as money. This type of money always dotted line attaches to a debt instrument. The instrument in turn asks for “more” which makes the money want to extract from the earth, to then pay the debts. Credit as money fluxes in an accounting ratio, flowing in periodic cycles in full alignment with the debt instrument. A sovereign money system would put a stop to this nonsense, and is a simple law change. http://www.sovereignmoney.eu

    Humans operate by prices and money, the same as a fish in the water. Why do you think I go after Jews so hard? They are always involved in the perversion of money, to induce usury, to then benefit themselves. The immigration disaster cannot be divorced from money either, as it is an attempt to make bank capital ascendant over labor… i.e. to drive down labor costs through immigration.

    With regards to Christian ethics, the ethic allows for temporary shelter for vagabonds – not permanent housing and parasitism on a host population. Christian churches have been perverted also by money, especially tax exempt status, so Christian churches dare not speak out.

    I too think the West has to stop population growth and the best way to do it in the west is by stopping immigrants or offering legal status in exchange for sterilization, and a one child policy on immigrants that have not been sterilized. The best way to stop overpopulation in africa and the middle east is simply forced sterilization.

    That would require a King or a Fascist system, which I also believe in. Mussolini type fascism nationalized the banks, and put usurers pimps and pornographers in a special zone in 1926. This then insulated civil society from its bad elements. The privateer bankers were voting absentee stocks in the market, to then swing the market for their rent seeking. Mussolini put a stop to the thefts.

    America could end illegal immigration, by ending birthright citizenship, strong enforcement against those who employ illegals and a national ID card. But it will never happen because of economic rightism. It is economic rightism and lack of democracy that creates all the social problems in the U.S.

    Universal suffrage voting has proven to be a disaster. Women vote their interests when single, and vote their husbands interests when married. Due to evolution, women are not equipped to deal with the frontier and what it takes to guard against bad elements. It is feminists and feminized men who are the forefront of societal breakdown. These types of people are easily duped and maneuvered. They have soft heads, and the choices they make are based on emotion and illogic.

    Hungary had a Constitutional Kingdom that lasted a thousand years… there was no universal suffrage voting, and today Hungary has an “illiberal” democracy. In the U.S. it was money power that funded the usurpation of Congress critters via bribery. Today our vote is further disenfranchised by compro-mat and other schemes the bad guys use to maintain their plutocracy and rent seeking. Plutocrats never give up voluntarily, they have to be smashed or killed.

    You do need some sort of feedback in any system, and the Chinese do it with polling. Democracy doesn’t work – it is the worst form of government. Californians repeatedly voted against what happened to them, yet it happened anyway.

    After the coming crack-up of the country, any newly formed polities would be well advised to limit who votes. I’m not a constitutional scholar, but it seems to me that money and “parties” and in-groups pervert the common good. Lee Kwan Yew in Singapore took a multi-culti hell hole and made it work, and he used fascist style tactics. There is no substitute for a high IQ leadership, or elite that has the best interests of the public at heart. The U.S. does NOT have that, its elite actively hates normal American’s in fly-over country… the deplorables.

    But I do think state intervention is needed to get american blacks to a functional level and create a black community that is an asset to the country instead of a liability.

    This is also related to money. After reconstruction the northern banking establishment worked to keep blacks in America, and especially use them as agents to put the South in debt. They were placed into government positions, where they could indebt the southern states for generations. This is the real reason the KKK came into being.

    These same “establishment” banksters worked against Marcus Garvey and his black star line, tripping him up in various Kritarchy schemes.

    Our Jewish friends from New York started up the NAACP, and induced blacks into their lawfare. Booker T. Washington wanted black communities with economic roots. This would be an integrated economic community of blacks who got the “green” money first through honest labor, and later legal emancipation would come, especially as blacks earned respect in white eyes. The black colleges Washington put into place, were to train blacks in trades, so money would circulate in their communities.

    We really cannot tolerate the Jews and their like minded travelers anymore; their allegiance to mammon and usury is anti-life. Their actions affect every aspect of life, and even race relations are subordinate to the problem.

    I can guarantee you that if young black men were given a monthly stipend, which is CORRECT in accordance with Douglas Social Credit Gap Theory, then crime would drop significantly. Gap theory and socialism is leftist, and it is correct. Socialism in a mixed economy is correct economics. Sorry “rightist” people, you have been duped by Oligarchs if you think otherwise.

    Also, black youths high crime would drop significantly if their relation to black women was reversed, where black men are over black women. Today, black women get the gibs, and the men are simply disrespected baby daddies.

    Leftist economics is mostly correct IMHO, but their views on a proper social hierarchy and the logos are way off in la la land, and have no basis in history or logic.

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  156. Dan’l says:

    I love it when CInc. tries to sell usury and sodomy to young debt slaves and would be sex robots, if CInc. had their way.

  157. @Charles Pewitt

    I hope the Unz Hebrew Conspiracy Awareness Team and Baking Club watched that video of the deluded Mr. Jones.

    A non-Jewish conservative White Catholic trying to claim that Germany is the nation it is today because of the Catholic church. Then he goes on to blabber about Africa “lacking unity” as if Europe has always been united. Actually it has been the opposite and he of course conveniently ignores the Catholic history of countries like Ethiopia. The White interviewing him who is smirking and nodding is either intentionally soft-balling him or buys into this extremely limited Conservative Inc view of history.

    Why don’t you guys focus on him first? Or how about Der Leader #1 on AM radio? These guys wouldn’t last a minute in open debate yet we’re supposed to ignore their influence over millions in favor of some Unz Jewish conspiracy. Yea not buying it.

    • Replies: @Eric135
  158. @Antares

    I think it’s more effective to just answer their accusations of racism, nazism, antisemitism with a calmly stated, “Kiss my ass”. Doing otherwise is just playing their game, and this is not a game.

  159. Dan’l says:
    @4justice

    That Catholic Church is the only institution that can prevent the Jewish cabal from enslaving Christians. For 2,000 years it has worked but has never been free of sinners, so ignore calls for perfection in a human institution. Protestants have collapsed all over the West. Aquinas and St. Augustin have shown the way.

  160. @John Johnson

    “What I do see possible is for an alt-left and alt-right to unite under the same populist or centrist banner.”

    That’s just silly. Centrism is the middle of the road, which is where you see all the poor animals squashed when you drive. Leftists are not allies, even when they pretend to be. A left/right coalition will only see leftists’ goals pursued.

    You can’t kill a snake by living in its belly.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  161. @Corvinus

    I’m Corvinus.

    Because every generation of nationalists has been right, this one is wrong.

    Corvinus.

    I’m Corvinus.

    The Hagia Sophia is a Mosque. But a Muslim Italy will keep all the Churches.

    I’m Corvinus.

    Because an Irishmen isn’t a heritage American, the United States must become Brazil.

    Corvinus.

    I’m Corvinus.

    A German an Italian and a pole is NO DIFFERENT to a Muslim, a Somali or a Syrian.

    Corvinus.

    I’m Corvinus.

    Non western countries have designated non national residents, but such a thing has never existed!

    Corvinus

    Your memes write themselves.

    You’re so inept. You don’t know what virtue signalling is.

    But it’s good to see you have accepted the premise of an American nation.

    The purity spiralling of course is useless.

    There is proximity Corvinus, because there is partiality with respect to genes. There is such a thing as less then 100% genetic profiles – your purity spiralling is hilarious.
    Keep misrepresenting the nature of the nation at the founding. Remember, you’re a historical Scion, the French fought the British to preserve the British Crown you said.

    And in any case, it doesn’t matter.

    As others have said, the degree of balkanisation in the US means subnational differences between Europeans may actually never become salient.

    You still haven’t said how the magic proposition sorcery can turn a European onto a Chinese, Japanese or Indian or African. How does it work this wonder? Why would the nations of the west be different to nations anywhere? Or is universality of principle itself another victim of your tiny mind.

    Oh I have another one.

    I’m Corvinus.

    No history exists. Empires always survive.

    Corvinus.

    Every comment without fail, you say something really stupid.

    Anyway it’s going to be fun watching you guys removed from the Republican party and rendered totally irrelevant. Even more irrelevant then you are already.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  162. I’m Corvinus.

    Because I’m not American either by blood or proposition, the concept of a nation doesn’t exist.

    Corvinus.

    ‘I didn’t say that’ – yes you did.

    If you guys didn’t have the censorship and repression and deep state backing you, you wouldn’t be able to run for local councils.

    The hawing and haaing and struggle is real.

  163. Entymology Today

    What species of filthy fucking Cockroach is Ben Shapiro?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  164. @MEFOBILLS

    I can guarantee you that if young black men were given a monthly stipend, which is CORRECT in accordance with Douglas Social Credit Gap Theory, then crime would drop significantly.

    What the left doesn’t tell you is that this has already been tried. Cash handouts were part of welfare until liberals decided it was a failure. I’m all for job programs to help Black youth but checks for nothing are bad idea. It’s only become popular again because it hasn’t been tried in a while.

    Gap theory and socialism is leftist, and it is correct. Socialism in a mixed economy is correct economics. Sorry “rightist” people, you have been duped by Oligarchs if you think otherwise.

    Oh so you have it all figured out. Would you rather live in a socialist Haiti or a libertarian Sweden? I’m left on a lot of economic issues but I’m tired of this type of singular thinking. As if we only need the right mix of Keynesian economics for everyone.

    Also, black youths high crime would drop significantly if their relation to black women was reversed, where black men are over black women. Today, black women get the gibs, and the men are simply disrespected baby daddies.

    Probably but you’d still have to explain how there were behavior problems with Black youth before integration and welfare. I would suggest reading The River is Wide. It talks about this and was written by an egalitarian trying to help them.

    I suspect the truth is in the middle as usual. But it’s a middle that neither side wants to consider.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  165. @John Johnson

    Where do those conservative whites get the idea that race doesn’t have any effect on anything, and economic ideology is everything? You might be able to name 2 dozen gentiles that break the mold, however can you name 1 jewish organization that is against replacement levels immigration?

  166. “It’s an objective reality that free market capitalism has failed to fix the third world.

    Oh but we can’t talk about that in front of conservatives. That’s rude and unhelpful. By “objective realities” you mean issues we can talk about as long as they don’t infringe on conservative ideology. Don’t worry third world, free market capitalism will eventually fix your broken countries. It’s just taking a lot longer than our conservative brain trust estimated.

    What the hell is the plan you guys? The Dems have a simple plan which is more immigrants = more votes. What is the conservative strategy here? Post your eloquent list of principles in Spanish?

    We might as well start burying guns if you think the status quo is working. Conservative Inc ignores the failures of capitalism while staring blankly at the simple liberal strategy. They did it in California and plan to do it nationally.

    Third rail is the only way. Stop trying to sell tax cuts or abortion bans. Embrace populist economics which means reducing inequality. No more tax cuts for the wealthy.”

    I am not sure what you are talking about here. I will make every effort to address it. Though how your comments relate to my own is unclear.

    1. Free market I take it you mean capitalism. Capitalism works. What it requires at its core is honest dealings. Now you have not identified any third world countries in which capitalist system has been employed and not lifted the fortunes of the countries as a whole. Now I make no pretenses that capital markets end poverty everywhere or that it has some magical power that exists without some management. So your argument first fails for lack of accurately describing some manner of test to be tested.

    But I contend the following

    [MORE]

    2. the following developed countries all benefited from capitalist systems and mechanisms:

    https://fee.org/articles/world-s-poor-we-want-capitalism/

    https://www.2greenenergy.com/2012/09/21/eco-capitalism-2/

    https://fee.org/articles/africa-is-getting-richer-thanks-to-capitalism/

    China

    Pakistan

    Russia

    Mexico

    Spain

    African countries

    Greece

    There are others.

    3. And I would note this, it is capitalism that enables other states to provide aid for states in need. But that is a whole other benefit package . . . of how capitalism aids developing countries.

    4. Now I think you have a valid complaint when we look at how capitalism is employed if it is employed at all. Because there are legitimate complaints about the IMF and how “developed” nations deal with developing countries — primarily they exploit resources without investing in the countries in which said resources are obtained. That abusive power dynamic is not honest, it is not fair and it is not capitalism.

    So measuring the impact of capitalism one has to examine the cultural practices of the countries on the table. And again here you simply fall short of any real examination . You don’t even take the time to identify what capitalism is to make your case — so you have no case to put forward nor any evidence or even analysis to support your claims. Its merely a string of accusations.

    This article nails it in my view.

    https://www.economicsandethics.org/2017/06/enjoy-capitalism.html

    In an effort to be fair, I have included a source that on the surface challenges capitalism, but in reality highlights the abuse dynamics that undermine capitalism possibility of betterment.

    ——————————————–

    Then you make a turn into the political strategy to win elections which is not linked to capitalism in any manner.

    —————-

    i will address my response to the election issue later

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @John Johnson
  167. @Twodees Partain

    That’s just silly. Centrism is the middle of the road, which is where you see all the poor animals squashed when you drive. Leftists are not allies, even when they pretend to be. A left/right coalition will only see leftists’ goals pursued.

    Leftists are certainly no ones allies but in theory an alt-left movement would be anti-globalist which means anti-leftist.

    A centrist alliance would mean increases in worker protections in exchange for immigration controls that benefit the country and not the left.

    These types of alliances have occurred in the past where nationalist right and left work together against globalist right and left. It works by taking voters from both sides to form a plurality or majority that the globalists then have to deal with.

    So it’s not without precedent or totally theoretical.

    • Replies: @Eric135
  168. MEFOBILLS says:
    @John Johnson

    What the left doesn’t tell you is that this has already been tried. Cash handouts were part of welfare until liberals decided it was a failure. I’m all for job programs to help Black youth but checks for nothing are bad idea. It’s only become popular again because it hasn’t been tried in a while.

    My preference is to use gap theory and pay them to leave. Pay for segregation, similar to Marcus Garvey. I also advocate for internal segregation as less optimal, and having money circulate within their community, hence they are self sufficient. This is not welfare.

    Gap theory is like gravity, deal with it or else. The amount of money collected in wages is less than the amount of output in terms of good and services. People cannot buy their own output. This is not me having it all figured out, others figured it out long before me. It is an iron rule of economics.

    Would you rather live in a socialist Haiti or a libertarian Sweden? I’m left on a lot of economic issues but I’m tired of this type of singular thinking. As if we only need the right mix of Keynesian economics for everyone.

    White people can make any sort of system run. Your question is stupid. If you go back through the comment thread, you can see where I talk about differences in the races. By the way, libertarian economics is junk economics, it is caved in head thinking that cherry picks history. It is also Jewish in inception. Mixed economies deliver the lowest prices.

    As if we only need the right mix of Keynesian economics for everyone.

    People that don’t understand Keynes bandy his name about. Keynes only advocated for a stop gap solution to the problem of debt based money. When bank credit returns to pay down principle it disappears. Ergo, a bank credit money supply is something like a bathtub that is filling with water (new loans) and draining (paying off loans) simultaneously. During depressions, the fill (new loans) goes to zero, and the bathtub continues to drain. Keynes wanted to counter-spend out of government using previous savings, but instead governments go into public debts to counter spend.

    I didn’t invent the system, it was (((our friends))),especially in 1694 with advent of the bank of england. And yes, I know far more about monetary history than most people alive, your snarky comments stating otherwise.

    Probably but you’d still have to explain how there were behavior problems with Black youth before integration and welfare. I would suggest reading The River is Wide. It talks about this and was written by an egalitarian trying to help them

    I have read it. Black behavior is also a function of genetics and race. There is high “now” time preference, less ability to think abstractly, higher testosterone, and genetics prone to violence. Paying them a stipend only helps, and besides it is required for good economics. Did I say required? Why do you think we are on a perpetual war footing and growing public debts? It is to pay the gap, and so people can have savings.

    I’m not an egalitarian, I’m a hard nosed realist. Even more so, I have examined about every money system and civilization in history, or at least what data I could get my hands on.

    I suspect the truth is in the middle as usual. But it’s a middle that neither side wants to consider.

    There are sometimes conditional truths, but mostly it reveals itself if you look. People on either side of the truth are usually disingenuous.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  169. peterAUS says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    What the hell is the plan you guys?

    Inform people about what’s going on which will then make those people vote for Conservatives and get them into positions of power.

    What is the conservative strategy here?

    When they get into power enact the laws that will roll back the USA to days of Eisenhauer.

    Failing later (rolling back) keep their own lifestyles good enough until they die off.
    Failing former (get into power) get enough of donations/contributions to keep their own lifestyles…
    Failing even that join the Dems/Progs/whatever to keep their own lifestyles…….

    The Dems have a simple plan which is more immigrants = more votes.

    Don’t say.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  170. KenH says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Two weeks ago, Trump proclaims his enthusiasm for mass LEGAL IMMIGRANTION from Han China……Trump is not at war with China….Trump wants to annihilate his Working Class White Male Voting Bloc…..

    Yes, but the most important thing we can do at the moment is lower black and latino unemployment! If we can do that then the future of whites in America is assured.

  171. @KenH

    If you vote for Trump…you are voting to be a White Racial Minority-White Racial Foreigner within the borders of America….

    Trump hates his Working Class Native Born White American Male Voting Bloc……

    • Agree: Ace
  172. Harbinger says:
    @John Johnson

    “Here in the UK …(Goes on long rant about Jews in UK politics)”

    Let’s keep this to Conservative Inc in the US.

    The thing is, what I speak of in the UK, is exactly the same as in the USA – Jews control both the Republican and the Democrats, including the Conservative Inc, just as they control the Conservatives, Labour, Liberal Democrats, Brexits and Greens here in the UK. This is what you’re choosing to ignore.

    “I could list 2 dozen non-Jewish millionaire conservatives that have been funding “capitalism is everything” think-tanks and media outlets. Are Jews forcing them to write those checks?”

    The Roman and Greek civilisations are two prime examples of capitalist societies. One could very well say the same of pretty much the Germanic and Celtic civilisation as well. For thousands of years they were anarcho-capitalist societies.
    There is nothing wrong, whatsoever with capitalism, that is having your own land, to live on, to farm and profit from your hard work.
    Now, here’s the thing about those peoples promoting capitalism and the Conservative inc of today. The Celts, Germans and Greeks put their own civilisation before others, that is they put their own people first. The Romans, is somewhat different as you could become a ‘citizen’ of Rome through various means, but there was still the true blooded Roman and hierarchy of the families such as the Juli, Brutii and Scippi.
    The question therefore remains to be asked, why have the Conservative Inc taken the “the only colour that matters to us is the Red, White and Blue.” stance? Anyone with half an ounce of common sense knows full well, that majority population black societies turn into sh*tholes; Detroit being a prime example. It’s run by blacks, regardless of being Republican or Democrat. It’s simply blacks, resorting into black, tribal mentality and borrowing from the Jewish book of ‘victim mentality’. Ergo, the reason why blacks fail is because of whites.
    Any successful white area, that begins to become populated by blacks sees it change overnight. Crime rises, house prices drop, more blacks move in, more whites move out and voila Detroit.
    Are you seriously, trying to tell me that these Conservatives Inc, the dozens of people funding the capitalism is everything thinktanks and media outlets don’t know about this? Where, precisely do these peoples live? Do they live in predominantly white areas or predominantly black ones? Well, I think we know the answer to that don’t we? It was somewhat of a rhetorical question.

    “Have you considered the possibility that White conservative men want to believe that capitalism is everything?”

    Yes, as explained above, capitalism is the bedrock of a successful civilisation, that is, when there’s no fifth column within (Jews) doing their best to destroy it through immigration and destruction of the host population.
    The questions above, given to the Conservative Inc. on rapidly changing white demographic, affirmative action and anti white bias and their subsequent ignoring of the problem and diversion from the question, proves, overwhelmingly that something is not right. Every one of those questions asked, if answered properly will ultimately lead to Jewish involvement, whether it’s Jews pushing the mass immigration into the USA, (who were incidentally responsible for changing immigration into the UK primarily from European stock, to non European), whether it’s affirmative action (again Jews were behind the affirmative action in the USA such as the granting of blacks lower SAT passes to whites to get into universities) or whether its the horrific anti white bias of the msm and academia (Jews own the msm. All of it). Therefore what we can clearly see is, Conservative Inc. like all political organisations in the USA is heavily controlled by Jews, pushing Jewish agenda. Sure, those in Conservative Inc will get rich and they somehow, stupidly, believe that when tshtf, they won’t be affected. However, unlike the Jews, they won’t get entry into Israel, regardless of being Christian Zionists or not.

    “You seem to think I am “ignorant” of this Jewish conspiracy and yet the article is about a non-Jewish conservative leader trying to maintain the status quo.”

    You are ignorant because you completely fail to see that Jews have complete control of the political system in the USA and unless you swear fealty to Jews and Israel then you don’t get into the ‘Big Club’ of politics. And it has nothing to do with the fact that article is about a non-Jewish Conservative Inc. leader. They’re all shabbos goys.

    “I don’t believe in a Jewish controlled Conservative Inc because I have been around too many White conservatives. They really, really want to believe that Detroit only has problems because of Democrats and that it just needs less government.”

    These ‘conservatives’ are the product of Jewish brainwashing all of their lives in school and university. For them to think that Detroit is the way it is because of Democrats, prove how stupidly ignorant they truly are. Detroit has one problem – blacks with victim mentality, taught to them by Jews during the civil right’s movement, which Jews used to destroy white America with. Blacks in Detroit fail because instead of getting off their backsides and doing an honest day’s work, they want to sit back and tell everyone they can’t get work because of white racism towards blacks. This works for them. It gives them the convenient excuse to be the bums they are. Everything to these Detroitians boils down to white hatred of black people, constantly grinded into them by Jews, indirectly through Hollywood and the msm.

    Capitalism can very well work in a society where it’s of one people. Once you start mixing it you destroy it. And the Jews done just that. They just sit back, counting all their shekels, from profiteering off of the goyim.

    Look, it’s really simple. Anyone who knows what’s going on knows that Jews are behind banking, government, national and international foreign policy, mass immigration, minority rights, the promotion of multiculturalism, promotion of multiracial societies, promotion of the LGBTQP, abortion in the west, feminism and the destruction of the family unit, the bedrock of society. There are Jews who want to live in Israel and there are those who don’t, because they’re all making a comfortable killing parasiting off of the western goyim. A bot fly, for example, doesn’t want to leave its host does it? It will stay within, getting bloated and fat, while it sucks the life blood of its victim.
    But, the Zionists know, that eventually western society will get so chaotic and violent that the Jews in the west will have no choice but to flee to Israel, which by then will be Greater Israel the land foretold in the bible, between the Nile and the Euphrates river.

    Conservative Inc is, overwhelmingly a Zionist operation. I will do my research into them, but really, when you listen to whites, speak as these idiots do above, you know very well who’s calling the shots.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  173. Harbinger says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    I have to state that when I watched the question being asked to Jones on whether an African, who lives in Poland is Polish and he stated, if he lives there, speaks the language and is a Catholic, I was absolutely shocked. I infact wrote to him on this, in a forum, stating that if anyone, from anywhere can go to a country and be of their nationality, then it destroys the very uniquity of that nation and thus negates the very concept of nation. A nation is not the landmass of the people. A nation IS the people, who occupy that landmass. He speaks alot of sense about what’s happened in the past with the church, but seriously that nonsense aforementioned really made me think about him. He seems to contradict himself alot. He’s going after the Jews, yet he’s promoting their multiculturalism and multiracial society here in the west. He’s a bit of an enigma. I think he’s just completely wrapped up in Catholicism that he’s missing the wood for the trees.

  174. @EliteCommInc.

    Now I make no pretenses that capital markets end poverty everywhere or that it has some magical power that exists without some management. So your argument first fails for lack of accurately describing some manner of test to be tested.

    Well why isn’t there a first world country in sub-Saharan Africa? Capitalism has been the default system there for over a hundred years.

    This is the objective reality that conservatives don’t like discussing. Their claim of respecting reality is a sham.

    They are extremely resistant to questions about race and the faults of capitalism.

    They tell us that the “free market” made America great but then get mad if you ask why it hasn’t ended African poverty.

    There are numerous African countries that have lower taxes and smaller government than the US but still have high levels of poverty. This is after decades of capitalism.

    Anyways this isn’t some theoretical issue. Africa’s population is set to explode and liberals will want to take them in. They will tell us that White colonialism is to blame. What will the conservative inc response be? They just need more capitalism?

    Conservatism doesn’t add up in its explanations of how first world standards develop. It has no regard for dissenting opinions in this area either. This ideal of respecting objective realities is a myth. You will get banned on conservative forums for asking too many questions about Africa.

  175. “Well why isn’t there a first world country in sub-Saharan Africa? Capitalism has been the default system there for over a hundred years.

    This is the objective reality that conservatives don’t like discussing. Their claim of respecting reality is a sham.

    They are extremely resistant to questions about race and the faults of capitalism.

    They tell us that the “free market” made America great but then get mad if you ask why it hasn’t ended African poverty.

    There are numerous African countries that have lower taxes and smaller government than the US but still have high levels of poverty. This is after decades of capitalism.

    Anyways this isn’t some theoretical issue. Africa’s population is set to explode and liberals will want to take them in. They will tell us that White colonialism is to blame. What will the conservative inc response be? They just need more capitalism?

    Conservatism doesn’t add up in its explanations of how first world standards develop. It has no regard for dissenting opinions in this area either. This ideal of respecting objective realities is a myth. You will get banned on conservative forums for asking too many questions about Africa.”

    Laughing.

    I think my initial comments answer most of not of these comments. But I will address one.

    Most of the southern continent of Africa was under colonial rule, including this supposed 100 years you dredge out of this air. Colonial imperialism did n0t use capitalism, as I indicated in my initial comments that capitalism requires a ethical and honest disposition colonialism circumvented access to capital benefits for entire swaths of the continents population. Those who routinely make arguments against capitalism, usually base their positions on problems related to the human psyche and not the actual practice of capitalism.

    As for poverty —- there are lots of reasons for poverty. And capitalism is not among them. The use of capitalism requires access and a market idea and then someone willing to buy the product tangible or not. In the ebb and flow any society there remains poverty so any attempt to link poverty to capitalism fails the reality test.

    The mistaken notion that merely importing people instead of allowing and encouraging them to grow markets to meets their needs is not the fault of capitalism. And liberals will want to import them for political gain regardless of the political or economic system in place. And like you are more than willing to import them to them to advance a socialist or communist agenda.

    The expansion of the middle is the direct result of capitalism ability to set economy free of most restrictions that limit access to money. It does not mean equity on par across the board, but it does provide greater opportunities for broad growth.

    —————————————

    You advance another series of arguments and your comments about linking objective realities to soley market forces is bizarre. When I say objective realities I am referring to existences that are tangible —-

    men, women, children, monetary systems . . . there’s nothing mythical about those. Laugh I will admit, its rare that I run into people who seem to think all objective reality is myth. Tat’s a relative existence for which nothing is real and one is operating always on one’s “emotive feel of truth” as opposed to truths tangible and not agreed upon.

    I have no magic cure for people’s greed, mendacity, ill will, lack of integrity, loosely handing truth, opportunism . . . I think capitalism at its core creates downward pressure against all of those attributes for most people, who are not looking to conquer but instead earn a living to feed their families and keep them safe.

    Equating power dynamics to capitalism is a mistake. And this issue you have with dissent. I think the record is very clear, capitalism is the source that enables dissent and participation and that the increased centralization — again not a capitalist tier is what is creating downward pressure of free speech.

    Continued and legitimate frustration aimed at capitalism because you saw a youtube video or took a course in school is misguided. Want to tackle corruption in capitalism, unfair practices — have at it. You have my support.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  176. Note: I am not an open borders free marketer, because one of the principles of capitalism is the need for order — and carelessly removing order leads to the consequences which some of you are concerned about. For example, this bit of rhetorical posing:

    “The questions above, given to the Conservative Inc. on rapidly changing white demographic, affirmative action and anti white bias and their subsequent ignoring of the problem and diversion from the question, proves, overwhelmingly that something is not right.”

    Affirmative action is a redress for the failure to act honestly with respect to black citizens. It is not anti-white. But more importantly, it’s has benefited whites more than whites and while politically correct, it’s positioning as a bane to whites is not supported by the data.

  177. @MEFOBILLS

    Would you rather live in a socialist Haiti or a libertarian Sweden? I’m left on a lot of economic issues but I’m tired of this type of singular thinking. As if we only need the right mix of Keynesian economics for everyone.

    White people can make any sort of system run. Your question is stupid

    The question shows the inanity of the entire debate. It’s all a circus that Conservative Inc supports to the detriment of the country.

    Everyone has $my_pet_economic_theory that they argue in the schools and on TV while privately they would bet on Swedes over Haitians regardless of economic system. So it’s all about the right economic system unless you are talking about different people in which case we can’t talk about that. What?

    Conservative Inc supports the fake debate but runs into all sorts problems with issues like immigration. If the people don’t matter then they become stumped when liberals want to know why they oppose immigration from certain countries.

    However you do seem to acknowledge that the people matter which I didn’t pick up on in your previous post. So the point is more for others here.

    • Agree: MEFOBILLS
  178. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    So what is your exact mix of European ethnicities? Are you not proud to list them?

    More importantly, based on Vox Day’s own definition and logic, you are not an American–“As you probably know, my argument is that the Posterity for whom the Constitution is intended to defend the Blessings of Liberty consists solely of the genetic descendants of the People of the several and United States. Posterity does not include immigrants, descendants of immigrants, invaders, conquerers, tourists, students, Americans born in Portugal, or anyone else who happens to subsequently reside in the same geographic location, or share the same civic ideals, as the original We the People. Many, if not most, descendants of immigrants are not the Posterity of the then-People of the United States. Neither are people living in Mexico, Germany, Israel, or even Great Britain. The U.S. Constitution was not written for them, nor was it ever intended to secure the Blessings of Liberty for them. The idea that the Constitution was intended to do anything at all for immigrants, resident aliens, or foreigners is as absurd as the idea that its emanations and penumbras provide them with an unalienable right to an abortion. The fact that courts have declared otherwise is totally irrelevant.”

    “Because an Irishmen isn’t a heritage American…”

    I never made that claim, nativists and Vox Day made it–”The Italians and the Irish were the original problem. They could have, and should have, been handled like the Chinese were. But they laid the groundwork for the Jews, the Germans, and the Scandinavians, who made things even worse. And they paved the way for the Mexicans, the Africans, and the Muslims. At this point, the USA probably can’t get back to 1986, let alone 1965.” Interesting. Basically, a specific group of whites, in this case European, who were deemed undesirable, which then opened up the floodgates to other “alien” Europeans to invade our shores.

    “…the United States must become Brazil.”

    According to nativists, the United States become other than the United States with the inclusion of undesirable immigrants, especially those from Eastern and Southern Europe. Let us turn to Vox Day for closure on the notion of “Heritage Americans”–“Immigrants, the children of immigrants, the grand-children of immigrants, and the great-grandchildren of immigrants should never be given the right to vote on anything. No one forced them to immigrate, and they always vote to change – and usually to ruin – the societies into which they have immigrated.”

    Did not your ancestors immigrate to the United States?

    “There is proximity Corvinus, because there is partiality with respect to genes.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “Remember, you’re a historical Scion, the French fought the British to preserve the British Crown you said.”

    That’s not what I said. I clarified my statement, and you have chosen to double down.

    “Anyway it’s going to be fun watching you guys removed from the Republican party and rendered totally irrelevant. Even more irrelevant then you are already.”

    Yet another opinion on your part.

    Again, did not your ancestors immigrate to the United States? Again, what is your exact mix of European ethnicities? Are you not proud to list them?

  179. @Harbinger

    Any successful white area, that begins to become populated by blacks sees it change overnight. Crime rises, house prices drop, more blacks move in, more whites move out and voila Detroit.
    Are you seriously, trying to tell me that these Conservatives Inc, the dozens of people funding the capitalism is everything think tanks and media outlets don’t know about this?

    Conservative Inc leaders don’t care if their theories are true. All they care about is getting middle class Whites to believe them.

    Like I said it is mostly a cash grab. They sell simple explanations that fit the values of White workers while also supporting the economic aims of their benefactors.

    You are ignorant because you completely fail to see that Jews have complete control of the political system in the USA and unless you swear fealty to Jews and Israel then you don’t get into the ‘Big Club’ of politics.

    What you fail to see is that there plenty of wealthy White conservative men that would throw millions at dishonest think-tanks even if there were zero Jews in the US. This is because they see their wealth as better protected by lies that divide the people or lead to tax cuts. The idea that they are all brainwashed or bowing to the star of David every night is a joke. Wealthy Whites have been telling all kinds of fibs since the days of the colonies.

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    , @Ace
  180. @peterAUS

    What the hell is the plan you guys?

    Inform people about what’s going on which will then make those people vote for Conservatives and get them into positions of power.

    I mean what is the counter-strategy to the liberal plan of more immigrants = more votes.

    Conservative Inc doesn’t have one and they proved this already in California.

  181. geokat62 says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    What species of filthy fucking Cockroach is Ben Shapiro?

    Ben Shapiro DESTROYS… Himself??:

  182. @EliteCommInc.

    Most of the southern continent of Africa was under colonial rule, including this supposed 100 years you dredge out of this air.

    So you are going to pull the colonial rule excuse on us? Was America or Liberia under colonial rule for a longer period?

    Colonial imperialism did not use capitalism

    Sure they did. Numerous British colonies had open markets and British companies invested in them. How is that not capitalism? Or are you going be like liberals and play the semantic game? I don’t like example A so I’ll just step in and redefine the terms.

    And liberals will want to import them for political gain regardless of the political or economic system in place. And like you are more than willing to import them to them to advance a socialist or communist agenda.

    I don’t want to import them. What I am getting at (and you are proving) is that Conservative Inc / modern conservatism tries to up-sell capitalism while completely ignoring failed capitalist states. That doesn’t mean that I support socialism or communism. It means there are most likely variables that conservatives don’t want to investigate and thus this professed “respect for objective reality” is fluff.

    You advance another series of arguments and your comments about linking objective realities to soley market forces is bizarre. When I say objective realities I am referring to existences that are tangible

    Haiti is an objective reality that conservatives like yourself should visit. You and Hannity should go together and have a mud pie. For the uninformed the Haitians actually eat mud when they are starving.

  183. However, Nick Fuentes, the funny, charismatic

    Nick Fuentes is as funny and charismatic as a hemorrhoid.

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  184. Harbinger says:
    @John Johnson

    Charlie Kirk’s Full Speech in Jerusalem
    Jews are our elder brothers in faith
    Dan Crenshaw believes criticising Israel should be illegal

    “The idea that they are all brainwashed or bowing to the star of David every night is a joke. Wealthy Whites have been telling all kinds of fibs since the days of the colonies.”

    The three links at the top prove, just where Conservatism Inc’s loyalties lie. They’re an offshoot party of the Republican, whack job Christian Zionist loony toon brigade. Although E Michael Jones, has some warped views on nationality and race, he certainly knows his Catholicism and the relations between Christians (Catholics) and Jews and it would be very interesting to listen to him, in a debate with Matt Walsh on his views, as seen in his Twitter post. He could also school him on the origins of ‘Anti Semite’.
    Anyway…
    Yes, there will always be rich white, brown, yellow, red men out there who will always screw others over for their own personal gain, but the point is that Christian Inc is clearly a pro Zionist organisation, that’s doing its best to steer people away from real nationalism and to dismiss any questions that clearly have links to Jewish demolition of the USA.

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  185. @geokat62

    Interesting video….So let me preface my comments by telling you that I am very well versed in George Borjas’s research and econometrics in general….

    Whether 70-90 percent of Hispanics vote Republic in the future is beside the point…..for if 70-90 percent of Hispanics vote Republican in the future…Well, Hispanics still get to vote the HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE WORKING CLASS MAJORITY into a White Racial-White Racial Foreigner within the borders of America….So I’m not interested in the debate that the little cockroach Ben Shapiro wants to have…none of us should…

    George Borja’s 1986 book was the basis of several of Ronald Reagan’s Amnesty’s…..In fact, his book was quoted in the Congressional debate about Reagan’s Amnesty as evidence why Amnesty should pass…and Borja’s book…Strangers from another Shore…was used as evidence for passing Amnesty by Conservative Inc Republican Senators……

    By 1998, George Borja’s renounced Immigration Econometrics including his own research in the Journal of Economic Issues….after which, George began to write very sensible things about immigration such as:Economics not very relevant to understanding Immigration Policy…because Economics is not the fundamental issue in Immigation Policy…..Hint:Miami is Hispanic…Foreign…and Spanish Speaking…..

  186. @War for Blair Mountain

    The Econometric debate about nonwhite LEGAL IMMIGRANTS is for fools…in the same exact way that the IQ psychometric debate is for fools……for both Mad Calibrator Nitwit obssessions are 100 percent irrelevant to the post-1965 Race-Replacement issue…….You can take Steven Millers’ Points-Based-Immigration Policy and shove it up the filthy ass of Conservatism Inc…….

  187. “So you are going to pull the colonial rule excuse on us? Was America or Liberia under colonial rule for a longer period?

    Sure they did. Numerous British colonies had open markets and British companies invested in them. How is that not capitalism? Or are you going be like liberals and play the semantic game? I don’t like example A so I’ll just step in and redefine the terms.”

    If the native populations which comprise most of the population did not have access to markets and the economic system in place — then capitalism simply cannot be assessed. In fact, the explication of the market systems that Dr. Smith describes makes clear that the access to the system would be the most effective means of combating poverty. The colonial powers limited the market system to themselves. And did so in violation of the most important tenet — fair dealings, honesty . . . one simply cannot ignore the ethics and responsibility to operate above and then say they are applying capitalist principles. In fact that manner of short changing denies the power of the system to impose self discipline because leverages the denial of access to hedge against the breadth of what it is capable of — thereby hording. Now, if you want to make a case against hoarding the wealth — — I think there is plenty of grounds.

    I have further addressed with my the supplied reference data in the previous response, especially in reference to Africa. And even supplied an apparent challenge to my position, to highlight the point.

    I would further note that if you mean the open market street system that was closed to the main avenues of wealth creation, I would state you are playing a self fulfilling game that would only extend wealth creation to that would be barred from growth. The way around that was to create a black market system – hardly capitalism of depth.

    “And liberals will want to import them for political gain regardless of the political or economic system in place. And like you are more than willing to import them to them to advance a socialist or communist agenda.

    I don’t want to import them. What I am getting at (and you are proving) is that Conservative Inc / modern conservatism tries to up-sell capitalism while completely ignoring failed capitalist states. That doesn’t mean that I support socialism or communism. It means there are most likely variables that conservatives don’t want to investigate and thus this professed “respect for objective reality” is fluff.”

    A total falsehood. My record on immigration is very clear and definitive. Nationalism is a natural and helpful mechanism to maintain orderly application. And my specific is among the most prudent of anyone liberal or conservative wit a moratorium on all immigration into the US for five years. You are engaged in the problem with the use of the term conservative inc. Because despite a lousy choice of term, the description described in the article by example is not applicable to how I frame conservatism – not even close. Wrong. You will have to look elsewhere for someone who fits the bill the author describes.

    And you are completely incorrect, capitalists dealing with the comparative advantages against socialism, marxism and their variants since they have been around. I can only speak for myself and the record is clear capitalism provides the best means for most people to get their needs met. The incomes and growth of Mexico is a perfect example the 500% growth they expirienced after NAFTA is not threatened not by capitalism, but social instability that undermines their economic system. further damaging their system is the refusal of the wealthy to invest in their country – closing or freezing out participation artificially. And out immigration policies help to maintain the corrption in mexico’s system. Stopping immigration from Mexico would go a long way to reverese that social dynamic.

    “Haiti is an objective reality that conservatives like yourself should visit. You and Hannity should go together and have a mud pie. For the uninformed the Haitians actually eat mud when they are starving.”

    One of the fundamental pre-requisites and this is merely my view for capital markets to work is a stable social order, and at the moment, I am not sure we can say that about Haiti.

  188. If the native populations which comprise most of the population did not have access to markets and the economic system in place — then capitalism simply cannot be assessed.

    Wow that sounds awfully familiar. Where have I heard that before? Oh right when liberals tell us that their countries have been oppressed by evil Whites and as such can’t be judged by any modern standard. But instead of Whitey it’s a “lack of true capitalism” even though former Eastern bloc countries are doing far better and they flat out rejected capitalism for decades.

    I can only speak for myself and the record is clear capitalism provides the best means for most people to get their needs met.

    The record is clear one you toss out dozens of capitalist countries that weren’t able to meet the living standards of European Socialist countries. I’d say the record is complicated and there are probably more factors than economics which Conservative Inc talking heads have zero interest in investigating.

    In fact, the explication of the market systems that Dr. Smith describes makes clear that the access to the system would be the most effective means of combating poverty.

    How long is this going to take exactly? When is Haiti going to reap the benefits of capitalism?

    Don’t even bother answering. It is clear that Conservative Inc is some bizarro inverse of liberalism where instead of blaming blue eyes everything is the fault of Socialism or a lack of True Capitalism.

  189. @Harbinger

    The three links at the top prove, just where Conservatism Inc’s loyalties lie. They’re an offshoot party of the Republican, whack job Christian Zionist loony toon brigade.

    Conservative Inc describes the corporate friendly think tanks and media outlets of modern conservatism. It isn’t the Christian wing of the GOP which is openly supportive of Israel and that really isn’t a secret or disputed by anyone.

  190. @Corvinus

    English in the Anglo US sense, albeit not at the founding, but a few decades post, then an unfortunate and unusual polyglot of Irish, Italian, German, Samoan and Jewish, but the last down the fathers’ line and only a minor portion. Thus I am not included in that category in any meaningful sense and I’m a Catholic.

    I just look like a big tall white phenotype with a hint of Jason Mamoa and the Basketball player Steven Adams and light brown hair. I have hazel eyes, not blue or green unfortunately.

    It’s an unusual and in the coming world an unfortunate combination. But it would mean that if you guys win and whites get completely subjugated I could possibly blend in as a ‘very’ light skin in neo-Brazilia post-America. I’m phenotypically white enough that I get get all the demerits and lectures on white privilege and and toxic whiteness and listen to my parents insulted etc.

    Bring part Samoan does make you physically strong. Fists break on my prominent brow ridge.

    Vox is native American.

    He’s experienced replacement first hand. So I respect his categorical view on immigrants and their impacts. I’ve lived and worked in the major cities and felt what he feels.

    I understand perfectly well that should events unfold as he has determined, I could be deported, and certainly would be by Vox.

    I genuinely have no idea what is going to happen to all the mixed race people. I think it will just come down to Phenotype, self identification and the degree of acceptance from the identity poles in question.

    But I would accept I have to leave as a Christian duty of mortification to preserve western Civilization. Because my deportation given the degree of definitional observance it would entail could only come at the end of a long process of repatriations which would preserve America.

    And preserving America would be a beacon of hope for all the subjugated European nations in Europe.

    Preserving the West means preserving all of beautiful Italy and Ireland and Germany and England and even Samoa.

    Did you know Samoa has it written into their constitution that they are a Christian nation? There are no Muslims allowed to immigrate to Samoa. People who insult Christianity in Samoa get their heads smashed in by 100kg 6′ 2 women. If any American wants to see a constitutional precedent for a Christian jurisdiction they can look to Samoa.

    And it’s not about me. Vox has convinced me of that.

    I’ve read Aquinas and Aristotle. Vox is completely right in his logic.

    Because the United States for all it’s faults is one of the last places you have even the semblance of freedom. It can be waived at will as we saw with the Epstein debacle, but there is at least a real political argument about speech and guns. It’s dead everywhere else.

    And I’ve come to realize that some of my multi nations would be imperiled if the US loses its ability to force project, which is well underway from the rot. It’s ironic because a US that can force project probably wouldn’t, but the key is to make sure it at least can.

    My bet is that the indicia for residence wouldn’t get as far as me, or you. It would have to go through about 75 million people prior. And the American nation given the absolute state of white people will need some Janissaries.

    If I am given my marching orders I’ll leave. And so would you.

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  191. @Corvinus

    It’s been interesting testing this argument.

    It seems it will end with a plea to personal circumstance, which is reasonable.

    Well I would probably end up being deported. Vox would definitely deport me.

    I’m Anglo English but not from the founding, a few decades post. I’m then a combination of Samoan, German, Irish, Italian, Danish and even Jewish via the paternal, so it is of no account. I’m Catholic.

    My phenotype is white. My phenotype presents as just a big tall white guy with long light brown hair and hazel eyes, with a hint of Jason Mamoa and the basketball player Steven Adams. I get golden tan and basically then can look like everything except African or Asian.

    I have no idea what is going to happen to mixed race people. I think it will come down to phenotype and external appraisals, self identification and skillset in terms of what one can offer the dominant identity pole. Whichever that is.

    I would accept being deported as Christian mortification for the preservation of western civilization. If I’m deported it would necessarily entail about 75 million other people being deported which would preserve America, and that’s necessary to preserve Christianity in the West.

    If America restores itself it would give hope to the subjugated old world and old Anglo Commonwealth.

    I’d happily go to Samoa or American Samoa. It’s a simple life. Did you know in Samoa their constitution renders them a Christian nation? They allow no muslim immigration. There is a church every few hundred feet. People who insult Christianity get smashed there. Americans here should look to that constitution for a precedent instrument for a Christian nation. It’s a simple document and could be customised for whatever system the Americans choose for their new state.

    I could just live in a fale, play rugby and start a tech business, and maintain a state of grace and serve God that way.

    But what’s so hilarious is that in all the other countries I’d face the same problems a white phenotype faces in the United States.

    I’m lucky. I’m big and intimidating. I can break nog fists on my Samoan brow ridge and can successfully identity as non white if I need to, sometimes. But my white brothers aren’t so lucky. I feel for them. I want them to be free of their cultural destruction. South Africans are my fav whites. Americans are going to need Janissaries.

    I was there all through gamergate.

    If my deportation allowed for the preservation of all the holy sites in Europe and freedom in the Anglo Commonwealth Id accept my fate. As would you no doubt as a good Christian.

    But the counterfactual is also important. My individual circumstances have to be balanced against basically a new dark age and a west under an Islamic caliphate and depraved dark Paganism and techno surveillance socialist state run by the Jews, populated by an Afro coolie class. Chris Terman has described the future if current trends continue.

    It’s not about me. It’s about the American nation. It breaks my heart seeing what it has become.

    And here is the thing. If the US continues to collapse it could mean the end of my heritage nations. A US that cannot force project can’t prevent empire building by peer great powers. The US can’t be Rome if it has the demographics and religion of Carthage.

    It’s not about me. It’s about the good the beautiful and the true. I’d find somewhere. Maybe mixed race will need their own territory on the continent.

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  192. geokat62 says:
    @Flint Clint

    It’s about the good the beautiful and the true.

    Amen, brother. The sublime braid of Plato!

  193. @Corvinus

    lol. We all know what your mix is, little hyperventilating one…

    0%. 😛

  194. dfordoom says: • Website
    @John Johnson

    Have you considered the possibility that White conservative men want to believe that capitalism is everything?

    Or that at least wealthy Whites don’t really care if it is true or not and just want a tax cut?

    Wealthy whites want to become wealthier and they don’t want to pay taxes. They don’t give a damn about anyone except for their wealthy friends and their wealthy families. They don’t care if non-wealthy people starve to death. They just don’t care. They couldn’t care less about white people in general. Wealthy whites care about corporate profits and they care about having plenty of cheap labour available because they don’t want to have to pay decent wages to their Mexican gardener or the Filipina nanny.

    They don’t care about capitalism in an ideological sense. Wealthy whites love capitalism because it makes rich people richer.

    Rich white Americans also love war because it makes rich white Americans richer and they don’t care how many poor whites or brown people get killed.

    Wealthy whites do not care in the slightest about white people in general. They see poor brown people as a source of cheap labour. They see poor white people as a threat.

  195. dfordoom says: • Website
    @John Johnson

    What I do see possible is for an alt-left and alt-right to unite under the same populist or centrist banner. I see the beginnings of this in some countries like France. But it would have to be led by alt-right.

    The alt-right is a waste of time. Too many nutters. They’re very much like SJWs.

    What would be more hopeful would be to see some of the more intelligent dissident rightists realise that rightism is a dead end. They could do more good on the Left.

    Can there be an “alt-left” uprising against “Socialism.inc”?

    We’d better hope so.

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  196. 4justice says:
    @Achilles Wannabe

    In my opinion, most regular Catholics have no idea how pervasive the corruption is. Sure, they know there have been coverups and scandals, but they don’t realize that there is a Gay Mafia reaching the highest levels of the Church leadership trying to undermine Catholic values. If these people could be reached, I think they would support advocating for the values that they know have protected them in their own lives. If the leadership would help articulate the positive points of the Church and the plus side of the values of the church, that could help, but the articulation can just as well come from the laity if we can manage to get the word around. I feel like older Catholics know they do not like where things are going but don’t have the language to advocate for it effectively and so just feel silenced. This is based on my small, subjective sample.

    Interesting to see the pushback on Bill Barr’s recent speech about religious liberty at Notre Dame. His advocacy for the use of Judeo-Christian* (so-called) values is said to be exclusionary despite this being a majority Christian country, founded by Christians. *Barr I suspect means Torah values and not Talmudic.

    The main attack against Christianity is an ad hominem of claiming that anyone who thinks sex should be connected to the purpose of procreation is a “hater” despite the large print of the religion requiring Christians to love everyone, no matter which sins they may be involved in. “Science” says men can actually be women and women can actually be men and if you fail to agree you “hate.” Well, the “science” of the psychology/psychiatry movement has been wrong many times before – lobotomies? Fathers and Grandfathers falsely jailed due to so-called “recovered memory” syndrome? Distribution of drugs like Prozak that have suicidal and homicidal ideation as some of the side-effects? …unwarranted trust in the medical establishment is part of the problem.

    Naturally, failure to grasp that Jews work as a self-interested ethnic group working to weaken Catholic power is another problem. In that sense, nearly all Catholics are Judaized.

    Catholics hate the wars, but most don’t know they are for Israel. They hate things like porn and abortion and open borders, but they are not allowed to know that Jewish organizations are leading these movements. They do not want Drag-queen story hour or masturbation taught to fifth graders or kids to be medically gender transitioned or for males to take over female sports and bathrooms by declaring themselves women – so the forces of degeneracy are pushing too hard, too fast and forcing people to confront uncomfortable truths. Therein lies our hope for a Great Awakening, imo.

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  197. Anyone who attempts to align my views regarding immigration, democracy promotion national with Mr. Hannity doesn’t ave a clue.

    There is nothing in my advocacy that supports regime change as a means to promote democracy or install capital markets –

    Nothing in my advocacy that supports easing immigration – not to promote and agenda of advancing feminists agendas or to that big tech can employ less costly janitors — it undermines the international order, And minus some extreme emergency international borders for these US need to ne enforced in full. And I include in that the arrest of mayors, governers and even clergy who support violating the law. And on national jurisdictional issues — sanctuary cities are out.

    Th concerns expressed by many are not really about capitalism but about the abuses of the same and how those abuses are protected by government. No small amount of attention shpuld be placed at the door of those whoe were participants in the events regarding the national economy in 2007 — to date. You remain angry about how government and businesses colluded with each other to protect clear mistakes and in many cases, obvious and deliberate careless behavior. And in your view, if that’s capitalism , the capitalism is to fault.

    Note: capitalism would not have bailed out mismanagement. It would have allowed those involved to suffer the consequences of their actions to instill discipline And in this case the bailouts which did not yield much of a roi for consumers and citizens alike among those businesses involved. i could not and have no defended the process which smacked on a failure of the political leadership to do their jobs in representing their fellow citizens

    If the country wants economic reform, it is going to have to prevent elected officials to be supported and participants in the economic system they are to ensure is fair and above board. No incomes beyond their salaries. If they can’t survive on that salary plus benefits, then public service is not their cup of water. So be it.

    Mr. Hannity wouldn’t support such a proposal, as I have advocated for more than ten years. The term “conservative inc.” was a just a poor choice of term.

    I don’t use the stock market as the sole indicator of the nation’s economic health. I cringe at the use of GDP to tell anything actually about the nature of economic growth — it makes no sense whatsoever. And I certainly would not be ignoring exports to imports under our current model.

    I don’t buy the depth of the employment numbers and the self feeding games that is played by the economic insiders.

    And none of those principles I hold reflect the kind of principles held by conservative inc. as the author describes the term.

  198. Ace says:
    @Flint Clint

    Outstanding comment. Thank you.

    A few days ago Tucker Carlson stated with great energy, “America is an idea.”

    Trump can’t shut up about “African-American unemployment.

    And imbeciles comment about an immigration moratorium so that we can have time to assimilate the millions of foreigners who are already here. That they have stolen jobs and are welfare parasites does not cross such people’s minds let alone infuriate them. The simple presence of Somalis in Maine and Minnesota is absurd. Minnesota, the land of a thousand imbeciles.

  199. MEH 0910 says:

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  200. Ace says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    The idea that what white Christian Americans created to keep government off our backs will have such enormous appeal that any person who lands here or crawls under that rarest of structures – a wall along our border – will instantly acquire the urge to watch Mary Tyler Moore reruns, hang Norman Rockwell paintings in the parlor, pick up trash on the highway, and, where appropriate, reject the poison in the Koran and the Talmud. Poof! Soviet Man at last.

    Perhaps, too, the idea that endless self-congratulation is a substitute for awareness of the history of racial, ethnic, and religious strife in the world.

  201. Ace says:
    @John Johnson

    Wealthy whites had nothing to fear from the lower orders who were content to lead decent lives. Bill Gates and Warren Buffett were admired. With the white elite actively promoting off-shoring and mass third-world immigration, those decent lives are nightmares of demeaning, marginal, two-job desperation and the white majority is restless. Private credit is being used to maintain the semblance of normal life and I give that about two years before debt service becomes unbearable. Two or X years when amount put on plastic equals amount to service the debt.

    No one cares what Cato or Heritage have to say. This article explains why. Money donated to the likes of them is wasted.

    The issues that are reaching a boil now are under the rubric of utter lunacy: monetary and fiscal hemorrhage, sexual confusion, homo worship, feminist imbecility, carbon phobia, pointless foreign wars, AntiFa immunity, Trump’s betrayals and weakness, fighting Israel’s wars, Jewish media monopoly, and the Jewish role in white replacement and minority worship.

    Unfortunately, destitute middle and working class whites, esp. millenials, will first seize on the taxpayer as savior as Elizabeth and Bernie are demonstrating. Once the economy hiccups, shall we say, those other issues will occupy peoples’ minds more.

    H________ only goes so far when times turn really sour.

  202. anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    Yours is a simplistic assessment with the whiff of prejudice where equal weight should be.

    Persians conquered a desert climate, navigating by the stars to traverse 3500 miles + across desert and mountain to trade with people of a different culture who spoke multiple different languages.

    Unz is a HBD site, so I always assume that people are aware of the link between race and IQ, and that there are natural divisions amongst the races of men.

    I think of Unz as a site where solid facts and sound arguments, rather than entrenched ideologies, win the day.

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  203. @Ace

    Without a doubt….Humans will resort to Tribal WARFARE…it’s hardwired into the brain via evolution.

    White Leftists and White Liberals will be exterminated by the highly RACIALIZED majority nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc……They don’t see this comming…..

  204. Ben Shapiro is agitating for the Yinnon plan for America……There is going to be a RACE WAR in America followed by break-up…followed by an IDF occupation of America…..Ben Shapiro’s allegiance is only to Israel…….

  205. geokat62 says:
    @dfordoom

    What would be more hopeful would be to see some of the more intelligent dissident rightists realise that rightism is a dead end.

    PTI, but a little clarification is in order.

    What would be more hopeful would be to see some of the more intelligent dissident rightists realize that focusing on the left/right paradigm debate is a dead end. The number one concern should be putting our Western homelands on a more solid demographic footing, by stopping both illegal and legal immigration from non-Western countries. We need to promote policies that reverse the trend Jewish Supremacist organizations set in motion with the passage of Hart-Cellar.

    Once we’ve addressed the demographic issue, people can re-engage in the left/right paradigm debate to their heart’s content.

    Until then, however, this debate serves as a distraction… and people of good will should cease and desist from perpetuating this distraction. Otherwise, it will be safe to assume an ulterior motive may be involved.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  206. Before I respond to these comments which are but reactionary objections to my refusal to fall into line with disconnected references, your constant attempts to spin every response into some kind of “gotchaism” about my political orientation — which as per usual among this crowd is wrong on every level is far more reflective of liberal agency than anything I have said or will ever say. It never ceases to be curious to me that among all the people who complain about liberal relativity, in misrepresenting what is sid, hyperfocus on individual attributes, personbal attacks about te superficial, false assumptions or any assumptions about sexuality, psychological make-up this sight is loaded with just the tribe they complain about. I describe what caputalism is note what would be a violation of the tenets of its practices and

    responses are consumed with nonsense about liberal ideology.

    1. most liberals would not advocate capitalism in the first place.

    2. colonialism was as much a barrier to capitalism individual wealth creation and ownership as marxist theory on communism as they both barred access to income generation. The fact that the upper tears hoarded a system for themselves under colonial systems is exactly the issue today, the consolidation of wealth by artificially access by the population — and if one takes note it worked for those who were able to participate —-

    3. Laughing. Ans nothing can be more silly than an argument predicated on some arbitrary standard. Whether or not a system can be said to function has no singular identifier save, that the overall benefits flow up, down and across the any given population. That is why in many ways its an error to contend that any set income level is a sign of success. For capitalism to work, access does not mean that any given population is going to have incomes comparable to other countries. If the people of Haiti for example make enough and own enough wealth to provide for their well being — and its well being is predicated on access to wealth creation and ownership then capitalism works. When that occurs is not codified and in my view cannot be.

    Now on to these repititous complaints previously addressed but are advanced again in new clothes.
    ———————————
    “Wow that sounds awfully familiar. Where have I heard that before? Oh right when liberals tell us that their countries have been oppressed by evil Whites and as such can’t be judged by any modern standard. But instead of Whitey it’s a “lack of true capitalism” even though former Eastern bloc countries are doing far better and they flat out rejected capitalism for decades.”

    “The record is clear one you toss out dozens of capitalist countries that weren’t able to meet the living standards of European Socialist countries. I’d say the record is complicated and there are probably more factors than economics which Conservative Inc talking heads have zero interest in investigating.”

    There is no one standard that indicates whether capitalism is working for a given population. And western socialism is so heavily propped up by capital systems that the comparison you make is hardly valid. Furthermore, since some developing nations themselves are either communist, socialist, or merchantile or some combination thereof — your dancing on air.

    “How long is this going to take exactly? When is Haiti going to reap the benefits of capitalism?”

    Answered previously — there is no endgame in the capitalist system.

    “Don’t even bother answering. It is clear that Conservative Inc is some bizarro inverse of liberalism where instead of blaming blue eyes everything is the fault of Socialism or a lack of True Capitalism.”

    This comment is clearly one of ignorance. As conservative inc. would say that their use of force is designed to bring about democracy and freer economic possibilities for more people and that the current use of regime change is to that end —- but what is more telling is that attempt to twist reality to fit your nonsensical suggestion here. Hint: capitalism is the premeir hallmark of “blue-eyed” machinations on imperial gymnastics and my defense of it is considered — “white imperialism incarnate”.

    You simply have no legs to stand on here. As all explication of western thought on economic is derived from european countries — note I did not say the invention of — but its explication and therefore if one wanted to be a bland as your comments indicate but less relative —

    socialism, capitalism, communism, and marxism, communitarianism, libertarianism are all –“blue eyed” creations —

    good greif.

    Your singular whine about my being a liberal utterly fails its own misguided, undefined, vague, relative tests – one might as well ask when LA or Mississippi will become capitalist or when they will no longer be a state poorer than Connecticut.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  207. @Sick of Orcs

    In the mid-90s neocons like Bill Kristol,were saying Mexicans crossing the border were “Conservative Catholics” and “natural conservatives.”

    A decade later Kristol was saying the GOP had to move left because of the “growing hispanic vote.”

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
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    , @Sick of Orcs
  208. geokat62 says:
    @David In TN

    Great comment, David.

    In future, my unsolicited advice to truth tellers on Unz would be to insert the words “Supremacist Jew” in front of the name of a well known neocon.

    For example, Supremacist Jew Bill Kristol.

    It drives home the point who the real supremacists are.

  209. @Anonymous

    There are quite a few brown economic rightists where I work. They tend to be more intelligent than their brown compadres in other fields. Every single one of them promote the national egalitarian fiction but support diversity, legal immigration from the third world (esp. Mexico & South America), affirmative action/diverse hiring practices, and will play the “race card” when it is in their interest to do so. Their support of the Constitution is selective and based upon post-1965 interpretations. They have plenty to say against white identity, but nothing to say about brown/black identity.

    The funny thing about these fellows is they appear to be the minority within their own families (meaning parents, wives, children, uncles/aunts, cousins, etc.). Especially interesting is the children, who tend to be left/socialist. So there is a “reduction to the mean” in succeeding generations going on here. Is it genetic? I don’t know. But the standard “normie right” answer – leftist indoctrination – doesn’t wash.

  210. @EliteCommInc.

    Affirmative action is a redress for the failure to act honestly with respect to black citizens. It is not anti-white. But more importantly, it’s has benefited whites more than whites and while politically correct, it’s positioning as a bane to whites is not supported by the data.

    I have been discriminated against because I am white and because of affirmative action–over and over and over and over again. That is the “data” of my life–and that of millions of other white people in this country.

    As for “failure to act honestly with respect to black citizens” I have no clue what you are talking about–I have as little to do with them as possible since I don’t like being conned, robbed or beaten. I have no intention of telling them this because I have no desire to get my head beaten in.

    As far as I am concerned black people living today owe white people living today reparations–they have made our large cities unsafe for decent civilized people.

    Go find some idiots to con with the “affirmative action” garbage–it won’t play here.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  211. @EliteCommInc.

    2. colonialism was as much a barrier to capitalism individual wealth creation and ownership as marxist theory on communism as they both barred access to income generation.

    So the African country with the longest period of colonialism should have the poorest Blacks? Well that would be South Africa and in fact the opposite is true. During the colonial years Bantu from other areas would immigrate to SA for a higher standard of living.

    According to your theory Liberia should be the wealthiest since it wasn’t colonized. That isn’t the case either.

    What about Hong Kong? Were the people not building wealth under the British? Or does Con Inc also toss out Asians when making arguments?

    Conservative Inc is inverse liberalism. Maybe you don’t see yourself as part of Con Inc but you are certainly a modern conservative that will happily push this BS until you run into someone that actually knows a bit about history. Liberals run into the exact same problem. They push their grand outlook of blaming White people and then run into problems when trying to explain why countries that weren’t colonized are still poor.

    There is no one standard that indicates whether capitalism is working for a given population.

    I’d say eating a pie that is literally made out of mud is a pretty good indicator that the economic system isn’t working. That doesn’t mean that Haiti needs more Socialism or Communism. It means that both liberal and modern conservative models are oversimplified. If we really want to help Haiti then we need to think critically and not just blame Whitey or suggest that they don’t have True Capitalism.

  212. @David In TN

    Conservacucks never learn, either.

    Now we have Charlie “The Jerk” Kirk claiming Blacks are “inherently conservative.”

    • Replies: @geokat62
  213. Harbinger says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    “Affirmative action is a redress for the failure to act honestly with respect to black citizens. It is not anti-white. But more importantly, it’s has benefited whites more than whites and while politically correct, it’s positioning as a bane to whites is not supported by the data.”

    In a meritocracy, those with the relevant skills and capabilities are given the jobs. Affirmative action utterly obliterates this concept and by default is incredibly prejudice to the European origin population, as was the intention. What affirmative action essentially does is tell European origin peoples – “It doesn’t matter that you are better and more capable than blacks. We will give the jobs to the blacks before you.”
    Again, as in many of my articles that I write, this is Pavlovian.
    (((Those))) behind affirmative action essentially just want whites to give up, roll over and die (just as they want the Palestinians to do in the previous article here in UNZ).
    Affirmative action is blatantly racist and those who deny it are utterly incapable of understanding the very concept and definition of racism.

    Where is the affirmative action in sports?
    Why is basketball, athletics, football and baseball dominated by black players?
    There is very much a meritocracy in sports isn’t there? Why not everywhere else in the USA?
    This phenomenon firmly defines the situation of blacks in the USA – sports capable but lacking everywhere else (other than the music industry, if you can call it music today).
    As I stated it’s Pavlovian, indoctrinating whites into becoming second class citizens in their own civilisation.

    Back in 1999 Edward Norton was in an incredibly seminal film, but most certainly NOT for what it was actually trying to promote. That film was America History X. Of course, it promoted white racism over whites, but the real story went unchecked by the white audience, brainwashed into the nazi ideology and violence of whites over blacks. The real story was affirmative action, which kicked off everything. Should you care to watch the movie, Edward Norton recalls when the ‘racism’ began in his family. Queue heavy brainwashing and we find out that his father, a fireman, is angry because two of his colleagues have been fired so that two blacks can have their jobs, unqualified and skilled for the positions. He is rightfully angry because two people lost their jobs for having done no wrong, being sacked for being ‘white’ and two blacks came in which he stated, because of their lack of experience and capabilities will put lives in danger in the fire service and those they’d attempt to rescue. There was no racism in this scene whatsoever, however this is where the people in the audience are told it’s where it began.

    For any civilisation to flourish, the best peoples, capable for the position should hold it. This was why, for example, British expertise was so highly sought for in the past as educational standards were exceptionally high. Scottish engineering was world renowned, hence ‘Scotty’ in Gene Roddenberry’s Star Trek. We are now seeing that Europeans, with higher IQ’s are being passed over in jobs, courtesy of affirmative action. Therefore standards start to rapidly decrease while the west is heading towards a population akin to Detroit and subsequent failures of that society.

    Lastly, why should a European civilisation pass over jobs for its own in favour of immigrant peoples, not of their own? The true success of any nation is protectionism and always has been. Instead, in 2019, we are led to believe that blacks are superior at sports, hence their over representation within, but it’s racist to believe that whites are superior in the fields of STEM and other jobs that have built the western civilisation. Europeans created the west, not blacks. Sure, blacks may have ‘built’ certain parts of it, but there’s a huge difference between the design and engineering of something to putting brick on brick. And it was labouring jobs that were filled by blacks. The skilled jobs were done by whites, obviously.

    To conclude, affirmative action is a blatantly racist venture by the government. It destroys meritocracy, which on its own proves the capabilities of peoples – blacks excel at sports while whites are good at pretty much everything, but come to shine in academia.
    The Jews are behind a despicable program to shut whites out of their own civilisation giving it to low IQ blacks, who will inevitably turn it into Detroit. And when that time comes, it should be enough to force most Jews, out of the west to the then created Greater Israel as is the plan. While this happens in the USA, it will be happening or ‘have already’ happened throughout Europe, not unless, that is, there’s a mass awakening and people have had the common sense to remove the Jews from their positions of power and influence and started to repatriate non whites, back to their ancestral lands in their millions.

    • Agree: MEFOBILLS
  214. geokat62 says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Charlie “The Jerk” Kirk

    I prefer Charlie Cuck!

  215. @Harbinger

    I watched the question being asked to Jones on whether an African, who lives in Poland is Polish and he stated, if he lives there, speaks the language and is a Catholic

    What about a Pole who moves to America and learns perfect English? Is he an American? Is he a Pole? Same applies to the African and the Hispanic.

    Everyone discusses as if it is one single element that is under attack. They are not only attacking Whites. They are attacking, Latinos, Arabs, Asians, Africans and Indians. They are pitting all of us against each other. While we are attacking each other, we’re not attacking them.

    Their goal is the complete destruction of traditional religion, culture, and language. They want full-spectrum dominance over everyone and everything using global homogeneity (a.k.a. Globohomo) as the new religion. They are masters at creating the chaos and controlling the chaos.

    Their best strategy is funding Pied Pipers to lead and control dissent. What ends up happening is Christians fighting Christians, Muslims fighting Muslims and Muslims fighting Christians. While we’re fighting each other, we are not fighting the true instigators.

    We are all proxies. We need to identify and completely oppose the forces subversively moving and destroying all of us. We won’t do it as a single unified group of opposition. There will always be infiltrators destroying the movement from within. We need to oppose them while maintaining our identity as Fins, Irish, Hungarians, Poles, French, Coptic Christians, Shia, etc.
    “Death by a thousand cuts.” Time to turn the chaos back on them. We must be a thousand different swarms of bees attacking the same enemy that wants to steal all the honey.

    • Agree: geokat62
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  216. dfordoom says: • Website
    @geokat62

    The number one concern should be putting our Western homelands on a more solid demographic footing, by stopping both illegal and legal immigration from non-Western countries.

    The Right isn’t going to do that. The mainstream Right wants mass immigration. The alt-right is a liability.

    We need to promote policies that reverse the trend Jewish Supremacist organizations set in motion

    Talking about Jewish Supremacism is a great way to discredit the anti-immigration position. It’s one of the reasons the alt-right is a political liability.

    Until then, however, this debate serves as a distraction… and people of good will should cease and desist from perpetuating this distraction. Otherwise, it will be safe to assume an ulterior motive may be involved.

    Have I just been issued with a cease and desist order?

    You either want to win or you don’t. The Right is not going to win this fight for you.

    All the viable arguments against immigration are economic leftist arguments. There are no economic rightist arguments against immigration. The alt-right arguments based on race and Jewish conspiracies are ludicrously counter-productive and guaranteed to lead to total defeat.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  217. Harbinger says:
    @Jon Baptist

    “What about a Pole who moves to America and learns perfect English? Is he an American? Is he a Pole? Same applies to the African and the Hispanic.”

    Well, of course.
    In the definition of the American, an American is one who is of European origin. Anyone else is merely a guest in that land. The culture, the laws, the traditions of the US are European, not African, Asian or Semitic. It is the same for any European who goes to Africa, Australia, China, India, New Zealand or any other land in this world. You will always be European, living in a foreign land, not of your people of your culture. The nation are the people, not the land.

    As for the rest of your reply, I agree. I know very well what the agenda is (as most people will know from my postings). It is diversion. It is in fighting, off on wild goose chases, while ignoring the man behind the curtain, furthering his own agenda.

    And trust me, all I do is think about how I, as an individual can stop this. There’s no other matter, that takes precedence over this. This is the most vital cause of not just Europeans, but all non Jews in this world. Our enemy are the Jews and always have been. And if there are ‘good’ Jews, who don’t want to end up breathing in the fumes of Zyklon B and thrown into open fire pits (as they’ve continually lied they have) then I strongly suggest they start DRASTICALLY doing something about it, such as removing the Jews from positions of power and actively working with European peoples to utterly obliterate the system the Jews have been using for the last couple of hundred years in the destruction of the western civilisation.

  218. geokat62 says:
    @dfordoom

    The alt-right arguments based on race and Jewish conspiracies are ludicrously counter-productive and guaranteed to lead to total defeat.

    I beg to differ, dfordoofus!

    First of all, your bogus label of alt-right, doesn’t apply. These arguments aren’t alt-right, they’re nationalist. Secondly, they are not Jewish conspiracies, they are irrefutable truths. Finally, whether they lead to total defeat, as you claim, is something only time will tell.

    That said, you’ve made it crystal clear on which side of the upcoming battle line you’ll be standing. I look forward to standing opposite you.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  219. MEFOBILLS says:
    @anonymous

    Yours is a simplistic assessment with the whiff of prejudice where equal weight should be.

    Persians conquered a desert climate, navigating by the stars to traverse 3500 miles + across desert and mountain to trade with people of a different culture who spoke multiple different languages.

    Why are you butthurt?

    Persian demographics have a statistical shape, and they have a mean IQ. Persians have always been known for their intelligence and high civilization. They don’t fit the definition of global south brown masses on-the-move to infect the north.

    Persian women are especially beautiful and would be an addition to an European country, not a detriment.

    Your argument is so much dust in the wind. Persians deserve their own homeland as much as any other national grouping. Perhaps even more so, as they have continuously occupied their territory since practically pre-history.

    Please try again and explain how my argument is simplistic. I’m drilling a bulls-eye, and you are butt-hurt by the truth of things.

  220. @geokat62

    These arguments aren’t alt-right, they’re nationalist. Secondly, they are not Jewish conspiracies, they are irrefutable truths. Finally, whether they lead to total defeat, as you claim, is something only time will tell.

    Well even here at Unz the Jewish Conspiracy Squad can’t agree on each conspiracy.

    So I don’t see how you can believe they are irrefutable truths. Many of the conspiracies assume backroom deals that no one can prove.

    I’m with dfordoom on this one. Drop the Jewish stuff entirely. It’s a terrible strategy.

  221. “In a meritocracy, those with the relevant skills and capabilities are given the jobs. Affirmative action utterly obliterates this concept and by default is incredibly prejudice to the European origin population, as was the intention. What affirmative action essentially does is tell European origin peoples . . .”

    I am certainly in favor of meritocratic practices. Well, I guess if you ignore the data that whites are the recipients by the tune of some 70% of AA, we can discuss your complaint. But before I repeat the standard response, let’s face some uncomfortable truths.

    1. The US is not and has not been a meritocracy from its earliest days. The fact that she broke away Great Britain did not alleviate her of the class system in effect prior to the revolution. And while that break may have improved on the benefits of meritocracy, a meritocracy we were not.

    2. While meritocratic practices have been more available — we are not a meritocracy

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

    https://prospect.org/education/myth-meritocracy/

    http://valleywag.gawker.com/the-myth-of-silicon-valley-meritocracy-destroyed-in-one-1307760029

    https://mediadiversified.org/2015/04/13/dismantling-the-meritocracy-myth/

    It’s as if you are even paying attention to the content of the article itself, which decries the use of connections via powerful, wealthy organizations and people to bypass meritocratic tests to advance policies that benefit the same players, even when those policies are utter failures, people still get promoted, still have jobs . . . I have no explaination why the greatest intelligence, political and military failure in fifty years still has a major players as leaders, if one is talking about meritocracy – then you’ll have to explain why those same people are still leading.

    As someone who supports meritocratic principles and practice, your suggestion is boat with more than a dew Titanic holes ripping it asunder.

    3. I have no answer why whites dismantled the very important tenets of meritocratic practice associated with AA. I would agree with those who make the argument to do so was unwise. Which was always part of the redress until the 1970’s when whites tossed it and did so on behalf of women, let’s be clear — white women, until then the program was never intended to lower standards.

    4. Sports, you have got to be kidding because in both professional and amature sports whites barred talented athletes from participating. I am stunned at such comment. And when the country wasn’t out and out barring participation that required that blacks exceed the level of talent to compete on par. Take a look at the history of Baseball, Football, Golf, Track and Field . . .

    So, while I have issues with how AA is implemented today. In light of the real world in which one segment of society created artificial hurdles to bar them access, I would say that the benefits and the very foundation of meritocracy — sadly are seriously undermined by the behavior of the dominant population.

    Here’s a mirror for your complaint.

  222. “According to your theory Liberia should be the wealthiest since it wasn’t colonized. That isn’t the case either.”

    Laughing. Well, in order to consider your bland assertion. One would

    1. make a case that Liberia’s economy was capitalist.

    2. Even if capitalist establish a clear indicator of what constitutes some objectoive standard of wealth in comparison to ther countries

    3. note that countries level of stability

    4. determine its means of governing authority over the economic fiscal policies.

    ————————————-
    “During the colonial years Bantu from other areas would immigrate to SA for a higher standard of living.”

    Laugh still, people will go where the money is available — and they will do that regardless of the fiscal policy or overguiding principles of the economic system in place. To the extent of access, that said population sought access to higher wages is nonunique to capitalism. But as I previously indicate, what access people had to the closed or restricted spread of capital practices among whites, seeking access to that wealth makes perfect sense, hoarding the same would not be ethical or long term beneficial.

    ————————————–

    “I’d say eating a pie that is literally made out of mud is a pretty good indicator that the economic system isn’t working. That doesn’t mean that Haiti needs more Socialism or Communism. It means that both liberal and modern conservative models are oversimplified.”

    There are two factors I would point to outside of direct economics at play

    1. successive hurricanes

    2. recent earth quake

    3. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/haiti/economy.htm

    32% of the population is supported by remittance incomes — hardly a sign of capitalism

    Haiti will need to have something that the indigenous populations wants or needs and or the same on an international level.

    Your comment is confusing, you make references to communism and socialism and the skip right on to the capitalist markets must be incorrect. I make no references to colonial interferences with respect to Haiti. But until Hatians develop a stable government, no economic model will operate effectively across the broad spectrum. Here’s a guarantee, if the Hatians are relying on communism to dig them out a system that is already not functioning, it’s safe to say — there is little optimism for improvement.

    As for your comment about it’s capitalism, i would take that seriously — for example, the concentrated wealth of Haiti locked in the authoritarian structure of feudal enclaves or cartels is a surety against growth.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  223. The Faux Right, Crenshaw, Donald “kike’ Jr, Kirk et al, are all sellouts to the Khazar Mafia.
    They take the 30 pieces of silver and sell out their own people, the historic white, Christian nation.
    They are Jew bootlickers, abortionists, big business bend-over phaggots, leftists in suits and human scum. Evangelical Zionists, a heresy, not real Christians.
    LIsten to pathetic shabbas goy Kirk spew about the USS Liberty being a ‘conspiracy theory’; you can hear the Jew [email protected] pounding his @nus as he shrieks in outrage.
    The man is a pathetic shill hoping that if he [email protected] Crenshaw hard enough he can follow him into Congress and make his millions. Destroying America further doesn’t bother these traitors: all sellouts to the Khazar mafia.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  224. geokat62 says:
    @John Johnson

    Well even here at Unz the Jewish Conspiracy Squad can’t agree on each conspiracy.

    Not sure which “conspiracies” you’re referring to, but the irrefutable proof I was alluding to was in reference to two Big Lies:

    1) Diversity Is Our Strength (or multiculti through mass immigration and mass miscegenation)

    2) GWOT is being waged to protect the security of western nations (instead of the villa in the jungle)

    Drop the Jewish stuff entirely. It’s a terrible strategy

    Ben Shapiro, is that you? Are you seriously suggesting we adopt the same strategy Cuckservative Inc. has been pursuing for several decades that has led to the disaster we currently find ourselves in?

    Since we are falsely accused of being White Supremacists, we should fight back and point out that the real Supremacists are Jewish Supremacists.

    Pointing out their hypocrisy and double standards is an unbeatable strategy, IMHO!

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  225. The Haiti issue:

    https://theglobepost.com/2019/10/15/un-haiti-peacekeeping/

    I think fifteen years of civil unrest and government instability is serious impediment to capitalist anything. Now as for western interference,

    https://theglobepost.com/2018/09/21/haiti-ceant-corruption/

    If you withdraw a subsidy that has been in place for however many years, the sudden shock is liable to cause problems. The world bank and IMF practices in controlling governments is not unique to Haiti. The direction is hard to grasp in the policy. Note that the intended revenues for fuel is not driven by individual ownership., but to the government — hardly a practice exemplery of capitalism.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  226. @dickr

    There is one very disturbing parallel between Rhodesia and the current West.

    A senior Rhodesian Air Force General privately admitted that they weren’t going to go all out in the war against the black, anti-colonial Communist Terrorists in fear of losing their pensions.
    IOW. The Rhodesian elite, a very small group of say 2,000 people perhaps, weren’t even willing to fight. They went through the motions and sold out their own people. That is precisely what THE MAESTRO, as the Q-tards refer to Trump, DJT is doing to Middle America. DJT is a Jew. His kids are Jews.
    European Diaspora peoples face the same betrayals. These betrayals are all around us. Unless our elites are aware of consequences they will continually betray us.
    I argue that the time will come that European peoples will have to convince their elites, in an Irish fashion, that betrayal will see worse results than fealty. Far worse results. As in Old Testament Biblical Justice. Whole families. The dog, the cat, the housekeeper.
    This is the only way forward.
    I don’t wish for this. I just see it as an inevitable conclusion. Europeans, particularly the North-Westerners, have been too deferent and too nice for far too long. The time will come when the power of fear will have to be harnessed. It is an inevitable conclusion and it will be, unfortunately, entirely necessary.

  227. @EliteCommInc.

    As for your comment about it’s capitalism, i would take that seriously — for example, the concentrated wealth of Haiti locked in the authoritarian structure of feudal enclaves or cartels is a surety against growth.

    As with liberals you:

    1. Avoid arguments involving Asians

    2. Fallback to semantics (perhaps they have some type of capitalism but is it True Capitalism?)

    3. Use recent events like natural disasters to avoid the full history of the country

    (slow clap)

    Let’s get down to brass tax.

    If Haitians do everything right according to your conservative principles how long would it take them to reach 1980s Eastern German living standards?

  228. Harbinger says:
    @John Johnson

    “Drop the Jewish stuff entirely. It’s a terrible strategy.”

    Ignore the man behind the curtain?
    Are you serious?
    I’m asking you a serious question now; do you truly believe that the mess the west’s in is because of greedy, ‘white’ capitalists and not Jews?
    If you do believe that Jews are NOT responsible for any of the problems, that the western civilisation is in then you truly are either ignorant on reality or a hasbarat troll.
    The problems that Conservative Inc. are discussing, that is the questions posed to Conservative Inc, shabbos goy are 100% the problems that have arisen BECAUSE of Jewish perfidy.

    The questions asked to the people, that this article is about, are directly because of Jews. Anti white bias, affirmative action and the demographic displacement of white people. Are you seriously not able to see this? Do you really, honestly, truly believe that this whole argument is down to greedy, white capitalists?

    Anyone, on this earth, who seeks to make a living, with earnings as a direct result of their hard work is a capitalist. Capitalism encompasses a large variety of careers. No, European, with the slightest modicum of common sense would ever seek to sack white, skilled workers, in favour of lower or unskilled non white workers. No European would ever seek to promote mass immigration, to displace their own people’s population. No European would ever seek to promote anti white hatred, within European civilisations unless, that is, all have an ulterior motive. These idiots, this article discusses are Christian, Zionist loony toons, who do what they do, because they’re all on board with the Schofield bible, rapture crap, that promotes the western peoples have to all be obliterated before their saviour, Jesus Christ, can come back. And I will bet my bottom dollar that every one of the so called, ‘dozens’ of white capitalists you state, behind this, are also loony, toon, Christian Zionists OR crypto Jews.

    This problem, that the west faces is 100% because of talmudic Jews and their promotion of the utter obliteration of the western peoples. This is fact. Those peoples who choose not to understand and accept this fact, promoting the opposite, again, are either ignorant goyim or shabbos goys/crypto Jews.
    Now before you reply with ‘rant’ understand one thing, one simple thing. The Jew has complete and total control of the msm and academia. Were they not in the hands of the Jews, along with organisations such as the SPLC and ADL to promote anti white rhetoric and attack any criticism of Jews, Europeans (and US whites) would have a full understanding of just (((who))) was behind everything that’s wrong with the western civilisation from wars in the middle east, mass importation of non Europeans into the west (and USA), anti white hatred, teaching of sodomy and homosexuality to school children and the new normal, along with everything LGBT and transgender. They would have done something about it a long time ago and we would not only not be discussing the problems, but Conservative Inc. wouldn’t exist along with this website. There would be no Jews in the west as they’d have been run out of town, as they have over a thousand times before in every land they’ve been in.

    We are essentially, because of Jew control of every establishment, being told that the very people who are behind all the chaos, are not the people behind the chaos and for anyone to think so is an anti semite, a racist and a hater.

    So where do you stand John Johnson? Are you going to continue your utterly laughable “it’s white capitalists” crap, who are doing it for personal greed, with absolutely nothing to do with (clear, cut) Christian Zionist beliefs, or are you going to actually wake up and realise what most people on this forum are stating and have been, in every article that UNZ promotes, that those behind everything wrong with the west are, in fact, Jews, whether Zionist or communist and always have been?

    To quote Abraham Lincoln, one of your previous presidents, murdered by, incidentally, a Jew:

    “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @John Johnson
  229. @geokat62

    Not sure which “conspiracies” you’re referring to

    Well we can start with the claim that Con Inc is managed by Jews. I’ve listed non-Jewish millionaires involved at the highest level and yet here I have been told that they are actually under the control of Jews. Well that isn’t provable now is it?

    It’s really amusing that I’m supposed to believe that wealthy White conservative talk show hosts are not in control of themselves. Those poor widdle millionaire activists are all victims of this conspiracy.

    Ben Shapiro, is that you?

    And here we go. If you question the Jew-haters then you must be Jewish. Does that make for a healthy debate?

    Are you seriously suggesting we adopt the same strategy Cuckservative Inc. has been pursuing for several decades that has led to the disaster we currently find ourselves in?

    Are you even reading this thread? I made it clear that Con Inc is a losing strategy. That doesn’t mean I support blaming the Jews for everything.

    Pointing out their hypocrisy and double standards is an unbeatable strategy, IMHO!

    Terrible strategy. Con Inc and liberal media outlets just come along and say SEE THEY ARE ANTI-SEMITIC so there is no reason to listen to them. You are giving them reasons to dismiss the intelligent arguments here that completely undermine them.

    But don’t worry, I have no doubt that Unz will always let the Jew-blaming sect run wild.

    I’ve accepted this and as such will probably start my own website.

  230. @Harbinger

    I like E. M. Jones but I have to agree with you on the question of ‘what is a nation’ he drops the ball.
    I think he is bound up in Christian-Catholic universalism and/or lacks the strength/courage to address the issue of tribe/race.
    I can’t say which it is. He may feel that he can only deal with so much.
    I still like the man and respect his morality. People make the mistake of seeing Jones as angry. That is mere surface. He actually deeply cares and is very upset and unhappy at seeing his society be tsunami’d by fake_jew-Khazarian parasites. I respect him purely on the basis that I believe he is moral and genuinely cares. Compare him to Mr. ‘Paleoconservative’ Buchanan who hasn’t conserved a godamn thing. Ever. He just sits back and analyzes the Beltway buzz and stays within it’s boundaries. He is a whore with a pen. Nothing more. Nothing less.
    BTW: enjoy your insights and comments. It is actually very difficult for European and Diaspora European men to grow up in highly Judaized societies and know what is true. Our own elites are constantly lying to us. England is probably the worst because of the inter-marriage of the nobility with the fake Jews. Horrible thing.
    Many men in our tribe spend their whole life without a relationship with a mentor to instruct them in the truth of our predicament. I believe that is starting to change.
    I hope we will stop being rubes.

    • Agree: geokat62
    • Replies: @Harbinger
  231. geokat62 says:
    @Harbinger

    So where do you stand John Johnson?

    Trouble is John Johnson’s real name is Shlomo Kohen.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  232. geokat62 says:
    @John Johnson

    I’ve accepted this and as such will probably start my own website.

    Good luck to you.

  233. @John Johnson

    Right.
    Ignore that 2% of the population call the shots, own your Congress, Supreme Court and Media. Uh-huh.
    Yeah, go with that. Don’t mention the elephant or Alefantis in the room.
    Brilliant.

  234. @John Johnson

    Being an anti-semite means that you’ve done something or said something Jews don’t like.
    It’s not even a legit criticism anymore.
    Example:
    I think Israel needs to sit down with the Palestinians and have an honest conversation about a solution.
    Screaming ensues: Anti-Semite!

    Anti-semitism used to mean not liking Jews. Now it means anything Jews don’t like.

    You have to decide where you stand. IN the LIGHT or in the DARK.
    Choose wisely.
    BTW. Being morally outraged and feeling righteous anger is not hatred. Anyone unable to tell the difference is retarded. Israel’s behaviour, and the behaviour of Epstein’s, Dershowitz’s and BoBo the Clown of Tel Aviv, is abominable. AS in: an abomiNation. An ethno-state that is killing off (2 million so far) the Palestinians.
    I want an ethno-state.
    Do I get to kill 2 million? Do I then get to insist anyone who mentions it is a hater? IF not, then why not? The fake Jew Khazar’s do it. Why can’t we do it?
    If you can’t understand this you are either brain dead or brain washed. I can’t tell yet.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  235. SMK says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Yes, “America’s time is running out,” things are dire, the future is terrifying. But things would be far worse if not for the defeat of Hillary Clinton and the election of Donald Trump, and if not for people like Tucker Carlson, Lew Dobbs, Mark Steyn, Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, and others on Fox News and right-wing talk radio, including a few politicians -all race-denialists who abhor and renounce “white supremacists,” “white nationalists,” “racists,” neo-Nazis, while never saing what they mean, exactly, by such epithets, or mentioning any names, websites, magazine, organizations.

    It will never happen, of course, but if the people above began to tell the truth about race and massive nonwhite immigration -average negro intelligence, black criminality, especially black-on-white violence, the nature of Islma and Muslim teroorism and gang-rape in the UK and Western Europe, an invasion of tens of millions of legal and illegal aliens that will soon transform the U.S. into a nonwhite-majority country in which European Americans are an increasingly dispossessed and persecuted minority and no Republican much less a Trump or Koback will ever be elected president again and democrats and the left will contro everything- who would defenestrate, deplatform, and disappear them? Not the left but the Republican-conservatism Inc. establishment, in obeisance to the left.

    It will enver happen, of course, but what’s left of the “historic American nation” can only be saved by race realism and white advocacy, an immediate end to non-European immigartion (with some rare exceptions), substantial increases in European immigration, a 2000-mile long border wall on the Mexican border to stop the invasion of illegal aliens, the deportation of 20-30 million illegal aliens, the deportation of Muslims and legal alien criminals

    Imagine if Trump and the people above began to tell the truth about race and nonwhite immigration. And imagine if most or even half of Republicans and conservatives agreed with him and supported him decisevely and unapologetically. And imagine if Carlson, Dobbs, Steyn, Ingraham, et. al. weren’t fired but embraced and supported by Fox News and the Republican-consevative establishment. The impact would be revolutionary. But, alas, it will enver happen, given the power of the left and the cowardice, venality, ignorance, and perfidy of the “cuck”-neocon establishment.

    We live in a society in which Jared Taylor isn’t even allowed to be a guest on Fox News to discuss such matters with Tucker Carlson, Hannity, Dobbs, Ingraham, et. al.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  236. Harbinger says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    I know many will disagree with me, but I also know many will agree with me that the works of E Michael Jones, are vital into the understanding of Jewry in the west. Sure, he comes at it from a purely Catholic point of view, but people forget that true Catholocism was an enemy of Jewry for a very long time. In one of Culture Wars’ articles of late was a reply to Ben Shapiro’s belief of a Judeo-Christian west. It of course, completely destroys the boy, Shapiro’s ignorant beliefs on the west’s ‘Judeo-Christian’ partnership. They quote Israeli paper ‘Ha’aretz’:

    “There certainly seems to be a degree of wilful blindness, if not crass manipulation, in Shapiro setting up 12th-14th century France, when Notre Dame was being built, as embodying “Judeo-Christian religious principles,” when during that period France’s Jews were expelled (twice), their holy texts subject to public book burnings and their property confiscated by the crown (several times). Look at the actual tangible built evidence of the cathedral itself, whose west front is adorned with twin statues: proud Ecclesia (the Church) and Synagoga (with head bowed, blindfolded with a snake, her crown at her feet and the tablets of the law falling from her hands), representing Christianity’s triumph over Judaism.”
    https://culturewars.com/news/ben-shapiro-and-the-myth-of-the-judeo-christian-west

    His concepts of nation and race, as you correctly state, are certainly bound up on his Christian universalism, as he follows the teachings of Christ which imply that those who believe in Christ, regardless of race and nation are Christians and the house of Israel. Everything according to this, are his beliefs on what is – as long as you believe in the Christ that’s all that matters. The only problem is that this view, as you certainly know, absolves all destroyers of race and culture, for as long as you’re a Christian and believe in Christ that’s ok. This philosophy will, ironically destroy any standpoint that he may make on the protection of the western civilisation from Africans, after all, if a black man, from Africa, comes to Poland, learns Polish and converts to Catholicism that’s ok and he’s Polish. Jones conveniently forgets that a nation is not the land, but the people and the cultures who make up that land, connected through racial continuity. Once you add a new racial bloodline, you destroy it. He would do well to realise this.

    I’ve had a long tussle with Christianity. Yes, I’ve been down every avenue with it from is it real, was there a Christ, to it’s a Jewish plot and Christ never existed. I look at Christianity and paganism and when you tally up the two, the crimes committed by so called Christians, manslaughter for example, they overwhelmingly outweigh the many human sacrifices of say, the Vikings, have done unto their own people. The horrific witch hunts and murder of innocent men and women along with what can really only be said as cultural demolition have a lot to answer for. I myself am finding that the scales are beginning to tip towards a return to paganism and utter obliteration of all the Abrahamic religions once and for all. I have never, ever, agreed to turning the other cheek and forgiveness beliefs inherent within the teachings of Christ. The concept of being judged when you die has absolutely no proof, whatsoever. If someone had a hold of my child and was about to murder them, I certainly am not going to turn the other cheek, as Christ would have, telling me that this bad man will be judged for his sins were he to murder my offspring. I’m minus a child with no guarantee of diddly squat when I and he buys the farm. Christianity’s forgiveness allows not just crimes to happen but to continue to happen. I’m beginning to see it as a curse quite frankly, an instrument that’s neutered lions and turned them into shivering wrecks of their former selves.

    Anyway….

    I’m Scottish. There’s been too much war, too much rebellion and fighting back against wrongdoing in my people’s history, to sit on the fence and wait for a saviour. I can say the same about all the European peoples, as they’ve all had their share of the same, many times over. It’s what separates them from the other races and why they are the number one target of the Jew for annihilation. I can also say that I am fully British and one of the many few who can say the same, due to the fact that I have all the Kingdom’s blood in me, along with Viking. Fighting back against wrong is in my blood. It’s in my genes. I correctly see myself above all authority, any man could ever impose upon me, save my mother and late father. No one has that luxury and no one ever will. The sooner people also see this, that no policy enforcer has any authority over them, nor politician, nor member of the judiciary, the sooner they can wake up and fight back, instantly breaking the state shackles, they’ve been indoctrinated, from young, into believing bond them.
    There are people on here who wrongly blame individualism for the state of affairs of today. It was individualism, the sacrifices of many who took up arms, not as a group but as individuals to fight against the many wrongs that have been inflicted upon peoples in the past. The very ethos of the new world order is the promotion of the group. The group is easily infiltrated and thus lead, to whichever nefarious purposes its leader so chooses. The individual, on the other hand, isn’t as easily compromised as the group. The individual is the enemy of the state and always has been and it is this precise reason that gender bending, the promotion of feminism and homosexuality and destruction of the patriarchy has been the Jew’s game from day one. The Jew, is a group. They work as a group and they are terrified of the individual. They are the borg, the hive mind who live by their insane laws and regulation of their modern religion of Judaism, encompassed within their Talmud.

    It is the individual who will win this battle, again, as the individual has throughout history. Let’s just hope this time that either the Jew is finally removed, onto an island and locked away for eternity or better still, Judaism and everything that is linked to it, is finally wiped off of the face of this earth once and for all.

  237. Harbinger says:
    @geokat62

    I cannot understand anyone, who truly thinks that the problem with the west is down to greedy, white capitalists, more so when he laughably states that they ignore clear msm promotion of hatred to whites, that affirmative action harms blacks compared to whites and that the rapidly decreasing white majority isn’t a problem.
    There is capitalism and there is human greed. Not all the greedy are capitalists and not all capitalists are greedy. Zionists and Christian Zionists are the problem and you can guarantee that everyone of them are most certainly capitalists.

  238. @Harbinger

    I’m asking you a serious question now; do you truly believe that the mess the west’s in is because of greedy, ‘white’ capitalists and not Jews?

    It’s a giant mess and does not have a single source. White capitalist greed is a huge part of it and as such seems irrational to blame it all on Jews.

    The main conflict in the US is racial and comes from bringing in African slaves and then fighting a needless war over it. Neither event was caused by Jews.

    Europe is a mess for a variety of reasons and unfortunately follows the US which is on a self-destructive course.

    So where do you stand John Johnson?

    A fair question. I am probably center-left on economics while deeply skeptical of liberal culture to where I don’t fit in with modern conservatives or anyone really. I see liberalism as the main problem as it really doesn’t have a serious competitor.

    Everything is built on paint theory which is the idea that all people are interchangeable or simply painted different colors and all culture is merely by chance. Liberalism is built on this theory and Con Inc is basically a corporate friendly alternative. This theory is not of course spoken but assumed.

    Leaders of both these two groups are well aware that they are lying or at least not serious about investigating how much the people matter. Take away paint theory and it falls apart. There is no need to even bring Jews into the conversation.

    See my conversation here with ElitecommInc on Haiti as an example. You don’t have to talk about racial differences. You just have to follow their own assumptions to their illogical ends. Now ElitecommInc is a very smart guy but most people are not as stubborn and already instinctively suspect that the mainstream parties are not telling them everything.

    Now you have to be tacit and careful in handling all of this. But I see no other choice. I see both liberalism and con inc leading the US to third world standards. I remain open to alternative explanations and theories but this is what I have concluded based on all evidence I have reviewed. Basically the stubbornness of liberalism and con inc in their refusal to consider human differences in policy will lead to the third worlding of America.

    One more note is that I wish that conservatives were correct in that we could just export more capitalism to fix the third world. But I just don’t think that is the case. Liberal theories of “just remove White people” have already failed….repeatedly.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  239. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Being an anti-semite means that you’ve done something or said something Jews don’t like.
    It’s not even a legit criticism anymore. (blah blah blah lecture on anti-semitism)

    Why are you telling me any of this? I pointed out how the establishment media reacts to this website.

    As with many here you can’t seem to separate strategy from personal opinion.

    They see one article and then write the whole thing off as anti-semitism.

    Maybe you think they shouldn’t but that that what happens.

    That should be taken into account as part of political strategy.

    I get that will never happen here as you and others are fine with Unz being nothing more than a web curiosity or billboard that the MSM can point at and say SEE that is what happens when you travel away from mainstream politics. It’s a dark web!

    Again I will be starting my own website and doing my part to take down liberalism if that is still even possible. Have fun being the bad mascot for the msm. Might as well dress up in a pirate costume and wave a crossed out star of david sign at a freeway.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  240. tac says:
    @Eric135

    Catholics are the great enemy?!?! And the imbeciles who, without a shred of critical thought nor evidence to put forth, agree with your sentiment are the reason this country is lost! C’mon, show some ‘proof’ of what you espouse! None, of course not …. why, because you espouse what the enemy wants. Traitors and imbeciles will agree with you! Take a hike! Although wrong in their support of (((Trump))) these are, for the most part, Catholic young men supporting this America First (not to be confused with the JEW re-brand of ‘America First’ by traitor Sebastian Gorka


    Ben Shapiro captured at just the right moment to coincide with the typical caricature:

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  241. explorer says:
    @MEH 0910

    is David French even a man?

  242. explorer says:
    @yallerdumb

    is that you Ben Shapiro?

    • Replies: @yallerdumb
  243. tac says:

    More highlights from the groyper wars:

    Mossad spotted at “filming the event”:

    Sebastian Gorka (((controlled opposition))) is suddenly creating a movement called “America First” –co-opted by the Jews in order to divert this newly found attention to a false and (((controlled))) shabbat goy!) Traitor! Hopefully the rope around this neck is snug and fit!

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  244. “As with liberals you:

    1. Avoid arguments involving Asians

    2. Fallback to semantics (perhaps they have some type of capitalism but is it True Capitalism?)

    3. Use recent events like natural disasters to avoid the full history of the country”

    I responded in detail as was provided and then some. The fact that you don’t like the answers, don’t have a response to the what is on the table is hardly my issue.

    a. I must have missed something because I don’t recall anything regarding Asians aside from your reference to Hong Kong. I will take another look to see if I needed to respond.

    b. There was nothing merely semantic about my response. I not only referred to specific behaviors, for example, essential resources from which the primary benefits goes into a government banking system, but the banks that are operated in Haiti routinely collapse. The banking system is not a series of private entities in which owners would work to ensure its success, but instead are operated via a central government system — which is propped by other systems not owned by the population. Nothing semantic about that system — your attempting indict capitalism for an economy which does not operate in a capitalist manner.

    Note: Those are brass tacks. As indicated by my response to your conclusion. You state communism and socialism and then jump to some conclusion about capitalist models are wrong — the line of reasoning makes no sense. I have been generous in entertaining it —

    c. Your contentions here are nonsensical. You pressed why the system was not yielding results. i stated two factors that were not part of the system and then proceeded to provide some detail references that included references to IMF relations regarding the use of subsidies. Nothing merely semantic about multimillion dollar fuel subsidies that upon cessation cause prices to rise upwards of fifty percent immediately. The shock to the system results if social upheavel in the form of violent riots.

    “If Haitians do everything right according to your conservative principles how long would it take them to reach 1980s Eastern German living standards?”

    My first response is a repeat of the previous response and is the foil to understanding economic forces consequences that are not by definition or processes required to be similar to any other nation based on the circumstances in that country. In short, for capitalism to be successful it doesn’t need to meet the standards of 1980’s east Germany.

    Of this I am confident, minus any natural disasters. Should Haiti create a stable social order. establish a working government. Encourage and foster individual ownership, invest in itself. support successful private industry and development, pay it citizens according to the standard of living supportable, have product development that is desirable internally, externally, preferably both that would fuel the same investment.

    I would expect to see benefits in less than a year. How great, how vast is dependent several factors. but the end game would not to have a economy reflecting any country but that of Haiti. Your expectation that Haiti should reflect some germanic, asian, or some other regional standard is flawed — it might very well be that should they adopt said system, they will exceed East Germany, bit the deeper reality that in either case to have a successful doesn’t require an east german existence. What is important for any state is that they set the standard of living they desire. If they want electricity what do they need to develop to so that their citizens can have said goal across the brad spectrum of their population. Note: a dollar should go a lot further in Haiti than in East Germany — Clean water — what would it take for Haiti to develop a successful broad supplying infiltrated delivery system. Key assessment of resources are in order: what indigenous resources do they have that would serve that purpose that decreases dependence from the out outside sources . . . I suspect that Haiti has plenty of smart, talented, creative population willing to set themselves to those tasks. And no few willing investors that could invest if they saw a return for the same.

    I don’t think there is anything liberal in my responses and never has been.

  245. “What about Hong Kong? Were the people not building wealth under the British? Or does Con Inc also toss out Asians . . . ”

    Hong Kong is great example of what can occur if you allow people access to the owner societies. And had the British invested in their African colonies as they did in Asia, then their rule would not have met with such negative consequences and they could have been even freer in Asia. And anyone doing just a cursory look at those histories would be frustrated by the promise of what europens could have developed or fostered on the continent, if not for their single minded view that blacks were animals or less than human — tragic, in my view.

    One cannot mouth platitudes about equal subjects of the crown and then not follow through in delivering equality —-

  246. But if one wanted Haiti to reflect East Germany one might want to start comparing the avaialable resources

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-major-natural-resources-of-germany.html

    and in pre unification, it help to have a domineering big brother with access to outside resources.

  247. ZIOCLOPS says:

    Groypers vs. Zyoclops.

    No e-girls! Not even once.

  248. MEFOBILLS says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The Haiti issue:

    Just look at a Satellite map of Hispaniola.

    On one side is Haiti, and the other side is Dominican Republic. DR side is lush, while Haiti side was clear cut to make charcoal.

    After revolution Haitians squatted in formerly opulent Hotels using their charcoal stoves.

    DR did not kill off and eject its white people in revolution. Many of the whites remained, and hence DR is now mulatto, along with some Hispanic Indio types.

    In other words, DR is much less negroid that Haiti.

    Race matters and if you are mixed race, your genetics continue to matter. If you are going to have immigration – and you shouldn’t- then the race of the people you immigrate matters a lot.

    This is so obvious a point that it should be taken as a given and not even be debatable.

    Another obvious point to anybody with even a passing awareness of history- is Jews are negative elements, and should restricted in occupation (similar to what Iran does today) or ejected entirely from your civilization.

    Any healthy “body” must reject its parasites.

  249. MEFOBILLS says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    “As with liberals you:

    1. Avoid arguments involving Asians

    2. Fallback to semantics (perhaps they have some type of capitalism but is it True Capitalism?)

    3. Use recent events like natural disasters to avoid the full history of the country”

    Nationalists have truth on their side, so swatting liberals and con-inc. is like swatting flies. It becomes so easy it is boring. It is because the “other side” is ignorant of reality and are making pretend about things. I call it hypnotism. They have been hypnotized with BS, and it is difficult to let go, and do wrong-think.

    With regards to Asians, whites have long known they had high IQ, but their “system” held them back.

    Here is a link to Francis Galton, (Darwin’s Cousin). Francis wanted to import Chinese to Africa, to fix the Africa problem.

    http://www.galton.org/letters/africa-for-chinese/AfricaForTheChinese.htm

    With regards to Capitalism, please read some of my other comments here. I go into detail about different kinds of capitalism, especially finance capital vs industrial capitalism. In a nutshell, finance capitalism was invented by Jews, and later American’s in the colonies invented industrial capitalism. Guess which type is predatory and funds Jewish perfidy?

    People that go off on the capitalism tangent better get a handle on the different types, because there is a clear difference in output.

    The natural disaster argument is normalized with time. Countries that have an energetic and capable population can bounce back ON THEIR OWN from natural disasters, or even population collapse with TIME.

    Countries that have a lower population cannot bounce back, because they didn’t build the infrastructure in the first place.

  250. Zioclops says:

    Stop calling them conservatives. They are consistories – high level masons who are CON artists.

    See also Canada, a CONfederation.

    Groypers are doing Jesus’ temple cleansing work.

  251. MEFOBILLS says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I suspect that Haiti has plenty of smart, talented, creative population willing to set themselves to those tasks. And no few willing investors that could invest if they saw a return for the same.

    It is simple statistics. The smart and talented is not a tenth as W.E.B Dubois would say. It is less.

    When you have a tiny smart fraction and the rest are sub 90 IQ morons, then there is nothing you can do. Your goose is cooked.

    It would take some sort of fascism or strong man rules to limit breeding and introduce Eugenics into to your population. Then it would take time for the improved population to create good living standards.

    The system matters, and natural resources matter, and the people matter.

    Economics can be boiled down to a simple set of truths: Humans take what the earth gives freely, and use their labor and machine energy (also from the earth) to fashion goods and service.

    If anything in the chain is broken, then you will have less than ideal outputs. There are people groups that cannot use their labor to fashion high tech goods and services. This can be seen in STEM graduates. Which racial types are graduating in STEM fields? Another way to look at it, is there are people groups with abundant natural resources under their feet, and they cannot use it, even when shown how.

  252. Dannyboy says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Affirmative action is a redress for the failure to act honestly with respect to black citizens. It is not anti-white. But more importantly, it’s has benefited whites more than whites and while politically correct, it’s positioning as a bane to whites is not supported by the data.

    Ah yes, let us count all the blessings and benefits of “Apefirmative Axeshun”.

    And the best part is I’m sure you’ll tell us you’re a “conservative” too, just like my boy Corvie…lol

  253. Harbinger says:
    @John Johnson

    “It’s a giant mess and does not have a single source. White capitalist greed is a huge part of it and as such seems irrational to blame it all on Jews.

    The main conflict in the US is racial and comes from bringing in African slaves and then fighting a needless war over it. Neither event was caused by Jews.

    Europe is a mess for a variety of reasons and unfortunately follows the US which is on a self-destructive course.”

    If you look at records you will actually find that 80% of Jews owned slaves, compared to 15% non Jews. You will also find that Jews not only owned most of the ships that captured the slaves, along with the crews, but also owned the slave markets. The bottom line is really quite simple when it comes to the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade and that is, it was overwhelmingly a Jewish operation. To add, it is fully my belief that the overwhelming numbers of slaves, badly treated, beaten, raped and murdered were most certainly at the hands of the cotton owning, slave plantation owners, who most certainly would overwhelmingly have been Jews. Control of the textile is the building block of a society and Jews had that market cornered. If Jews weren’t controlling banking or precious gems, they were controlling textiles. It was the Christian Scots who had faced persecution under the English for so long, who taught blacks the gospel and gospel music. We are somehow led to believe that the European, very Christian, just became animals and cast those Christian beliefs, in the treatment of others?

    And Europe is in a mess because? You don’t think it’s got anything to do with the fact that, especially here in the UK, Jews were behind the race acts? You don’t think it’s because of the fact that Jews are behind mass immigration and refugee organisations? You don’t think it’s because of the fact that the most powerful lobby is the Jew lobby, 100% responsible for the wars in the middle east where all those refugees are coming? You don’t think it’s because of the fact that Libya was destroyed, even though Gadaffi warned the west that it was the wall holding back millions of Africans from flooding into Europe?

    John you are deliberately ignoring the elephant in the room and you are looking at this situation purely from a financial perspective. While we can certainly relate to many problems caused in the west, due to greed, this is just a miniscule part of why all these problems are happening.
    When the attacks in Paris happened, at Charlie Hebdo, the government started posting armed police in Jewish areas of London. The Jews are a tiny minority here in the UK, making up some 350,000 people, around 0.4% of the overall population.
    Where were the armed patrols in Rotherham when all the indigenous girls were being raped and murdered, thousands of them? Where in fact were the arrests, when they knew from day one what was going on?
    They post police at Jewish areas, not because of terrorism. They post police at Jewish areas because Jews know that the public are waking up. There hasn’t been one ISIS/Al Qaeda attack on Israel or Jews since Jews were responsible for the attacks on 9/11. And the worst thing about all of this is that they remain, in the UK, guilty as sin, knowing just what’s going on, because there is money to be made off of the goyim. They can’t do that when they’re in Israel. They have to be in the host nation to parasite off of them.
    It is a kick in the teeth to the British people and the fact that there are police patrols in Jewish areas, showing clear Jewish privilege and favouritism over this minority, compared to your own people is what gets people’s backs up.
    Jews, again, are creating the atmosphere, that’s going to get them evicted from the west. Their ethnocentric supremacism knows no bounds and they fail to see it when they do it.
    The 1934 film, The House of Rothschild, made by Jews to paint Jews in a good light and stir up anti German propaganda, in order to bring about British hatred of Germany, ironically paints Jews in their true light. It shows the scheming, the conniving, the deceit and the tribalism of Jews. It also, of course, rewrites history to paint the Rothschilds in a good light and saviours of the west, that all their money lending and stock market tomfoolery was actually to save the west and stop war crap.
    Watch Devon Starks excellent video on the movie here. And it is this family and this family alone that is responsible for so much wrong in this world.

    I strongly, strongly, strongly suggest that you step outside of the box you’re currently residing in. Geokat thinks you’re a Jew and your stance certainly does point in that direction. As I stated in a previous reply you are either an incredibly ignorant goyim or a Shabbos goyim in servitude of Jews and of course, very possibly a Jew yourself.
    The most important aspect of all of the three peoples, this article is about is Christian Zionism, which is essentially Judaism. Christian Zionists are not Christians in the least. They have been brainwashed by the Schofield bible, a bible written by a goy who sold his soul to Jewry because he was in financial troubles. A washed up, snake oil salesman who sold his own people and faith down the Swanee.

    I strongly suggest that you look back to your American history and the slave trade to see, just as I stated, who was really responsible for it. You should also be asking the questions as well as to why millions of these slaves never wanted to go back to Africa, or more importantly were repatriated back to Africa because, guaranteed, there will have been Jews, behind their citizenship in the USA.

    The problem in the west, is the same problem that has been on this earth for thousands of years – Judaism. Until you accept this and realise that greedy capitalists is only one of the many tentacles of Jewry, that they’re using to destroy the western civilisation, you’ll forever be off on wild goose chases. The only way you can ever bring any resistance to your enemy is by actually knowing who your enemy is. You clearly do not and parroting the nonsense about greedy white capitalists is simply holding you back from the truth. There has always been greed. In fact, it’s a prerequisite for being a Jew (read Merchant of Venice by Shakespeare). Judaism is the enemy, NOT, white capitalists, far from it.

    • Agree: geokat62
  254. geokat62 says:

    If you look at records you will actually find that 80% of Jews owned slaves, compared to 15% non Jews.

    According to the work of two Jewish demographers, Lee Soltow and Ira Rosenwaike, 75% of Jews owned slaves, compared to 36% non-Jews, in the 1830s.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  255. Harbinger says:
    @geokat62

    In the article by Incorect Politic, Aprilie 21, 2019 entitled The Jewish Religion’s Position on the Slave Trade and Sexual Abuse: The Shocking Truth! It states that leading Jewish historian and apologist, Jacob Marcus notes:

    “In 1820, over 75 percent of all Jewish families in Charleston, Richmond, and Savannah owned slaves, employed as domestic servants; almost 40 percent of all Jewish householders in the United States owned one slave or more.”

    Incorent Politic then states: “Considering that less than 2 percent of all colonists owned slaves, Marcus reveals that individual Jewish households (40 percent owned slaves) were far more likely to own slaves than were Gentiles.”
    This pretty much says it all about the role Jews played in the slave trade. In fact, they played such a dominant role in the slave trade it should be renamed: “The Jewish, Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.” Clearly, the overwhelming majority of slave owners were Jews, compared to the non Jewish colonists. And when one looks as to what Jews think of blacks, it’s understandable why slavery is such an important part of Jewish culture.

    I will state as well that trying to actually find information, through search engines, on such topics is becoming increasingly harder and one has to wade through page after page of pro Jewish articles on slavery, of course, most actually denying Jewish involvement in the TAST and calling, you guessed it, anyone an anti Semite who states otherwise.
    The slave trade is one of their many whips that Jews use to beat Europeans with. The history of the slave trade, or should I state, the Jewish lies of the slave trade have to remain so as to keep the involvement of Jews out of the limelight, in order to continually paint them as the persecuted victims of history. However, all, well most, on UNZ know that to be a lie and that that everything the Jews accuse others of, they are and that the real persecuted peoples are in fact the non Jews, who have suffered under Jewish persecution of them.

    It really is utter folly, debating with any Jew on history, because they’re pathological liars, knowing full well, that the lie has to be perpetuated in order that Jews don’t end up being strung up and their bellies opened. When presented with overwhelming fact, they’ll still call it a lie. It is for this reason that when I find out I’m debating with a Jew, it comes to an immediate halt. My latest argument with some Jew on the Talmud, who stated that there’s online versions of it, that prove Michael Hoffman and all others who quote from passages within, have made them all up. He even went as far to stating that an oath was not a contract, when it came to the Kol Nidre prayer, Jews use to renege on all deals, in the coming year, with the non Jews and absolve them of any wrongdoing. Jews, through their constant deceit, actually get you double backing on your finding, questioning yourself as to whether the real truth you’ve uncovered is a lie. This amplifies their inherent wickedness and ethnocentric supremacy, in promoting the simple fact that to the Jew, whatever they believe to be true is true and any lie a lie, even when it’s clearly the truth.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  256. geokat62 says:
    @Harbinger

    You corrected me when I said you’re one woke Scotsman, so how about I call you one based Scotsman. Will that do?

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  257. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Re: Crenshaw.

    People who now risk life, limb and health fighting for ZOG no longer look brave or patriotic. They look like g_ddam fools.

    I tell everyone I love not to throw away his well-being or life fighting for an organization as corrupt as the US government, which is now turning the historic American people into 2nd class citizens.

  258. @SMK

    “Bad” whites will survive. “Good” whites will be murdered by their pets.

    I am a race realist. I treat everyone with decency, thoughtfulness and respect, but I will not pretend that HBD is not real, nor the cultures of African pygmies or of bushmen are equal to those of the Germans, the French or the Dutch.

  259. @tac

    Loved when a member of the audience asked Charlie Kirk how promoting anal sex would help the right win the culture war.

  260. Harbinger says:
    @geokat62

    Harbinger’s fine, but kudos to you. LOL
    I was despondent for a while, seeing as I’ve been in the rabbit hole now for over 20 years, but of late it’s beginning to change. People are really waking up, not just European peoples (as really they have to) but all non whites. I actually think it was inevitable quite frankly because people can clearly see that those behind the drive for authoritarianism are clearly the Jews and the minute anyone pulls them up on it, they rush to the defense shouting out anti Semite at everyone.
    Just the other day, I popped down to the local for a beer and got into a conversation with a younger man and out of the blue he stated “anti white is really growing”. I wasn’t there for long, but a random conversation, in a bar, with someone I didn’t know, shows the probability of those asleep to awake is certainly moving in favour of the latter.

    I truly do believe that Jews are going to trip up. It reminds me of the film Star Wars, Episode 4 when Princess Leia states: “The more the empire tightens its grip on the galaxy, the more star systems will slip through its fingers.” I think this really sums up the dilemma that Jews will face and it will become harder and harder for them to hide the truth. The internet will most certainly play a vital role in waking people up. It’s killing the msm, which is a great thing and of course, government is doing its best to censor it, especially with social networking sites banning people who are anti-norm and of course, the madness happening over at Jew Tube. Then of course ‘Tim Berners-Lee’, the man credited with creating the world, wide web, has voiced his concerns on the rush to control the freedom of the internet and I believe is working on a new world wide web to counter this.
    The more people found out just one snippet of truth, that breaks a modern lie, they’ll put it on the web. This will ultimately lead them to more truths, until eventually, everywhere you look, you’ll see the truth destroying the lies. More and more state authoritarianism will ensue, with overwhelming police protection for the Jews, which will, again, only begin to highlight just who the elites are and why they’re being protected. More and more people, again will wake up until Jews will be fleeing the lands they live in, as more and more attacks are launched against them. Again, more police action will ensue, resulting in anger from the public at blatant bias towards Jews over them and the whole shebang will escalate.

    The bottom line really is quite simple, the Jews, unknowingly have created a chain of events that are going to escalate. Regardless what they try to do, they will not be able to cover up their current lies and the lies of history. Everything will just eventually come out as the lion of truth will shatter its bonds and break free. And yet again, history will repeat itself and another ‘pogrom’ will happen, but this time, the definition of pogrom will change to meaning no longer a persecution of, but a rightful justice against wrongdoers.
    The Jew never learns. They fail to see that they are simply a hateful, ethnocentric supremacist, racist, wicked people, who by defining themselves, simply as a Jew, they bring it all upon themselves. Judaism is a religion. It is a modern religion, a cult of self worship and hatred of non Jews. Jews don’t have to be Jews. They could easily join the human race and cast off their vile beliefs, but they don’t. They dig their own holes and inevitably end up falling into them head first. Stupid is what stupid does. Jews aren’t intelligent in the least. They are, without a doubt the most suicidal religious group on this earth. They are masochistic morons, who bring hatred upon themselves by the insane actions and beliefs.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @tac
  261. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Harbinger

    why millions of these slaves never wanted to go back to Africa, or more importantly were repatriated back to Africa because, guaranteed, there will have been Jews, behind their citizenship in the USA

    .

    It is due to debt money. Private banking creates new debt instruments from nothing, and the credit is created simultaneously.

    For the slave trade, finance capitalists (yes mostly Jews) created new bank credit as part of a business plan. The money was created, ships built, and trade then began. Jews were natural at this since they invented finance capitalism, and also were slavers especially since their operations in the Levantine period (pre Christ around Greece). Jews were also the slavers in East Africa, selling negroes into Muslim lands, and later they were slavers in the Slavic areas, selling white slaves to Muslims.

    If you went to public skoool, you don’t know these things. You have to read real history, especially monetary history. I am a monetary historian.

    After reconstruction, as I have noted earlier, the Eastern banking establishment installed Negroes into positions of authority in the south. Installed negro puppets then proceeded to do bidding of their new masters, and that was to put the south into debt. The banking corporate business model is to create debt at interest. The rise of the KKK was largely due to these debt mechanics, which in turn are jewish in inception.

    It is WHITE PEOPLE with moral fiber, who have fought against this predatory form of capitalism (bank credit at debt) and they always lose. Usury injunctions in the catholic church – lose. American System of Economy overturned in 1913. Canada’s sovereign money system overturned in 1974.

    The Kaisers industrial capital system overturned by WW1. The national socialist system of Hitler, and Fascist Italy overturned by WW2. Japan’s credit guidance windows turned over by IMF actions which put Japan into debt in mid 80’s.

    China and Russia are now running the American System of Economy either through stealth or outright, and you can see how much these two countries piss off our predatory (((over-lords))). Our parasitic overlords are trying to start WW3 while simultaneously gas-lighting the American public.

    Even Marcus Garvey was thwarted by the (((usual suspects))) as they bound him up in law-fare, so he could not repatriate Negroes back to Africa, even though Negroes were paying their own way, and wanted to go.

    The NAACP was started by New York Jewish money, and this organization shunted blacks into lawfare and a permanent underclass as Jewish pets. Negroes today are dupes and pets of Jewish money and thought constructs.

    Booker T. Washington wanted blacks to have families and businesses, and be trained in black colleges.

    Who is more life-giving, the Christians that backed Booker T. or the Jews who backed W.E.B. Dubois and NAACP?

    Virtually everything the Jews touch turns to shit, because they are anti-logos. They are against the natural order. To operate their crime schemes they are rentiers, usurers, thieves and operate immorally. In the business world, they tend to use nepotism and in-group methods. Stay away from Jews if you run a business.

    Sorry, this is the verdict of history. There are honorable Jews and they need to be lauded and protected. Consider how hard it is to go against your own tribe.

  262. @Harbinger

    If you look at records you will actually find that 80% of Jews owned slaves, compared to 15% non Jews.

    What records? How about some sources before a wall of text?

    You will also find that Jews not only owned most of the ships that captured the slaves, along with the crews, but also owned the slave markets.

    What difference would that make to my point?

    The point is that Anglos sanctioned slavery and Anglos needlessly fought a war over it. In fact it was a single Anglo that talked Anglo families into sending their sons to battle. His name was Abe Lincoln and he wasn’t Jewish and privately didn’t believe in racial equality. Sounds to me like the first Con Inc president. Doesn’t believe what he was preaching regarding race but plans on sending your 18 year to get his head blown off for his fake ideals. Oh but the Jewz owned the slave ships you guys. WHO CARES.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Harbinger
  263. @Harbinger

    John you are deliberately ignoring the elephant in the room and you are looking at this situation purely from a financial perspective. While we can certainly relate to many problems caused in the west, due to greed, this is just a miniscule part of why all these problems are happening.

    Oh it’s all that simple, eh? I’m just ignoring an elephant?

    Which White Presbyterian President took the US into WWI? How many White world leaders sat on their hands as the Communists took Russia? How about the White allied leaders that let Stalin take half of Europe?

    I really like how here at Unz I’m supposed to ignore all these White wealthy leaders that have sent young Whites to needless wars but I’m supposed to be focused on Jews because they owned 25% of armament stocks or something.

    You want to talk about race? How many Anglo presidents believed in lying to the public about race? Nixon expanded Affirmative Action on his own accord while privately he clearly didn’t believe in racial equality.

    I’m sure you will tell me that these Anglo presidents have been forced by Jews to send White 18 year olds off to foreign countries. How far back are we going with this theory? Romans? Were Jews forcing the Romans to needlessly expand their empire?

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @peterAUS
  264. geokat62 says:
    @John Johnson

    The point is that Anglos sanctioned slavery…

    The point is the Jews ran the slave trade.

    His name was Abe Lincoln and he wasn’t Jewish and privately didn’t believe in racial equality.

    His name was (((Aaron Lopez))) and he was the owner of the largest number of slave ships.

    Oh but the Jewz owned the slave ships you guys. WHO CARES.

    Who cares? This is just a guess, but I think the black people of America might take an interest.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  265. geokat62 says:
    @John Johnson

    Were Jews forcing the Romans to needlessly expand their empire?

    Not sure about the Romans, but they sure as hell “forced” the Americans to expand their empire!

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  266. Eric135 says:
    @tac

    Catholics are the great enemy?!?

    Where did I say that?

    I didn’t.

    I’d much rather have Catholic influence in America than Judaized Protestant influence (e.g., evangelical “Christian” Zionists).

    I’m a big fan of Nick Fuentes and E. Michael Jones.

    • Replies: @tac
  267. Harbinger says:
    @John Johnson

    John, you’re clearly either an ignorant goyim or a jew. That’s all I really have to state when it comes to it.
    Nothing else, needs be stated.

    • Agree: geokat62
  268. Eric135 says:
    @John Johnson

    I hope the Unz Hebrew Conspiracy Awareness Team and Baking Club watched that video of the deluded Mr.[E. Michael] Jones.

    A non-Jewish conservative White Catholic trying to claim that Germany is the nation it is today because of the Catholic church. Then he goes on to blabber about Africa ‘lacking unity’ as if Europe has always been united.

    Nice attempt at obfuscation and straw-manning.

    Germany was Catholic for 1,000 years. So that obviously had a big influence on the nation that Germany is today.

    A more recent influence is the legacy of WW II. Jews were given free rein to punish the Germans and create the Holocaust lie.

    Jones has never claimed that Europe was always united.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  269. geokat62 says:
    @Harbinger

    I truly do believe that Jews are going to trip up. It reminds me of the film Star Wars, Episode 4 when Princess Leia states: “The more the empire tightens its grip on the galaxy, the more star systems will slip through its fingers.”

    Great quote, Harbinger. How ironic that a Jewish scriptwriter’s words would come back to haunt Jewish Supremacists!

  270. Eric135 says:
    @John Johnson

    These types of alliances have occurred in the past where nationalist right and left work together against globalist right and left.

    The established Left and Right are globalist. That is “centrism” today. Two “opposing” ideologies controlled by the same oligarchs (mostly Jewish). It’s based on politicians who work against the interests of non-Jewish white people.

    Once you realize that, then you will know that the real political divide in the U.S. is between:

    A) White people who aren’t Jews, Christian Zionists, Left-wingers, and Conservative Inc. sell-outs

    and

    B) everyone else.

    So the only political solution is a white nation free of Jews, Muslims, Christian Zionists, non-whites, mixed-race people, Conservative Inc. sell-outs, and Leftists (including feminists).

    That white ethnostate would then unite with any other white ethnostates that form in Europe and the rest of White-World.

    The Left is right about one thing. It IS all about identity politics and always has been. Christians might want to include everyone. And that’s fine. But it doesn’t work when you’re talking about nations and politics.

    Conservative Inc.’s claim that “race doesn’t matter” is a huge lie. Just like its claim that Jews are like everyone else and will assimilate and not be a threat to their host nations.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @dfordoom
  271. peterAUS says:
    @John Johnson

    I really like how here at Unz I’m supposed to ignore all these White wealthy leaders that have sent young Whites to needless wars but I’m supposed to be focused on Jews…..

    Ah, well, you know…..those are “our” guys. Hehe…or a lot of people here would like you to believe.

    I’m sure you will tell me that these Anglo presidents have been forced by Jews to send White 18 year olds off to foreign countries. How far back are we going with this theory? Romans? Were Jews forcing the Romans to needlessly expand their empire?

    Something like that. Actually…..no. See, those Joos cleverly manipulated Greeks into the Peloponnesian War too. And Phillip after that. And Alexander….

    You appear resilient to the party line here.
    Good luck.

    • Replies: @Eric135
  272. Eric135 says:
    @geokat62

    “Conservatives” like Ben shaprio and Rich Lowry (both of them Jews) are really communists.

    They know that no real conservative will ever win a national election again if we keep importing non-whites into this country.

    So they advocate bringing in more non-whites.

    The Jews led communism in Russia, and they’re leading it here, both on the Left and on the Right.

    Maybe now people will begin to understand why there was an Adolf Hitler.

  273. Eric135 says:
    @peterAUS

    See, those Joos cleverly manipulated Greeks into the Peloponnesian War too. And Phillip after that. And Alexander….

    Everybody has known for centuries about non-Jewish whites — on their own initiative — going to war with each other.

    What people haven’t known about is the role Jews have played in promoting wars between non-Jewish whites (WW I and WW II).

    That’s why we’re talking about Jews.

    But I’m sure you already knew that.

  274. tac says:
    @Harbinger

    Listen at the growing mutiny, at just this latest example today at UCLA, against Conservative Inc and Trump JR (The President’s very son nonetheless):

    Here is the Ben Shapiro subterfuge:

  275. tac says:
    @Eric135

    Sorry, I misread your answer. carry on…..

  276. @geokat62

    The point is the Jews ran the slave trade.

    Where is the evidence that most slave owners were Jewish? Or even that most ships were owned by Jews?

    His name was (((Aaron Lopez))) and he was the owner of the largest number of slave ships.

    A single merchant. Still not proof of majority ownership.

    Who cares? This is just a guess, but I think the black people of America might take an interest.

    I said who cares in reference to the bigger picture which is that slavery was an Anglo enterprise and it along with the resulting civil war ended up being a disaster for the country.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Sick of Orcs
  277. dfordoom says: • Website
    @John Johnson

    As with many here you can’t seem to separate strategy from personal opinion.

    That is definitely the problem with so many alt-right/dissident right/white nationalist types. Even worse, the personal opinions are based purely on emotion. It’s the politics of resentment. They all think they’d have great jobs and lots of money and really hot girlfriends if it wasn’t for those Jews. If it wasn’t for the Jews their wives wouldn’t have walked out on them.

    That should be taken into account as part of political strategy.

    Alt-right/dissident right/white nationalist types do have a political strategy. It’s a brilliant combination of wishful thinking and magical thinking. It’s guaranteed to be a success, in the fantasy world they inhabit.

    They don’t think in terms of winning in the real world. Their tactics are laughably inept but they don’t care because their understanding of the real world is non-existent.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  278. @Eric135

    Germany was Catholic for 1,000 years. So that obviously had a big influence on the nation that Germany is today.

    A more recent influence is the legacy of WW II. Jews were given free rein to punish the Germans and create the Holocaust lie.

    Jones has never claimed that Europe was always united.

    I was pointing out that your hero Jones is just another Con Inc spokesperson.

    He is saying that Germany’s success depended upon the Catholic church but it hasn’t happened in Africa because they lack unity. That doesn’t add up because Germany has had longer periods of inter-state warring than most Sub-Saharan African countries.

    So is Jones under the control of Jews because he is part of Con Inc? Didn’t you say he criticized Jews? You do see how this isn’t adding up, right?

    • Replies: @Eric135
  279. @Eric135

    The established Left and Right are globalist.

    (wall of lecture text)

    Why don’t you actually read through this thread before lecturing me? I made it pretty clear that I consider mainstream conservatism to be just as globalist as liberalism.

    Go back and read my questions about Haiti to EliteComm and ask yourself if you jumped too eagerly into thinking you were simply dealing with someone new to all this.

    It’s actually possible that some of us have mixed opinions that don’t conform to your pre-existing notions.

    You guys see a couple opinions that are out of the conformity here and you jump into this assumption that:
    Must be ignorant
    OR
    Must be Jewish

    It couldn’t possibility be that I’m skeptical of Con Inc AND I’m skeptical of Jewish Conspiracies. I’ve already shown that a couple of these conspiracies are not as air tight as many here think.

    • Replies: @Eric135
  280. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Eric135

    So the only political solution is a white nation free of Jews, Muslims, Christian Zionists, non-whites, mixed-race people, Conservative Inc. sell-outs, and Leftists (including feminists).

    That white ethnostate would then unite with any other white ethnostates that form in Europe and the rest of White-World.

    I had no idea there was such a simple solution. That idea is obviously totally practical and politically viable. And so easy.

    If you wish for something hard enough it just happens. That’s how magic works.

    My own personal political solution is for a state free of everyone who disagrees with me and free of everyone I disapprove of. Hey, I’ve just realised, that’s your dream as well.

    • Replies: @Eric135
  281. The GOP must be destroyed. They are one half of the Uniparty and fake opposition. They have the nerve to ignore their majority-White base, yet are so weak they couldn’t even keep perverted men out of women’s restrooms.

    Whites deserve a political party backing White interests, which, after all, are American interests, just like American history is White history. Identity politics requires we adapt or die. A new party is needed.

  282. geokat62 says:
    @John Johnson

    Where is the evidence that most slave owners were Jewish?

    From two Jewish demographers, Rosenwaike and Soltow:

    Rosenwaike, whose Jewish population studies have been published in the major Jewish historical journals, has recently analyzed the 1971 population studies of Lee Soltow. Rosenwaike does not dispute Soltow’s startling findings:

    Soltow estimates that 36 percent of the 625,000 [white] families in the South in 1830 were slaveholders. Of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion – 75 percent – were owners of one or more slaves.

    Sources: Ira Rosenwaike, Edge of Greatness, p. 66. Also Lee Soltow, “Economic Inequality in the United States in the Period from 1790 to 1860,” Journal of Economic History, vol. 31 (1971), pp. 825-26

    Or even that most ships were owned by Jews?

    Quote from The Secret Relationship between Blacks and Jews:

    Aaron Lopez (1731-1782) was the most notorious of the slave dealing Jews. He was Newport’s leading participant in the Black Holocaust, largest taxpayer and the epitome of the Newport slave dealing Jewish culture…Born in Portugal Lopez moved to Newport, Rhode Island in 1752, renounced his Marrano past and built an extensive trans-Atlantic slave dealing empire… He was engaged extensively in smuggling and the owner of between 30 and 40 ships. By 1749, Lopez was generally considered to be one of the largest merchants in the country, shipping every marketable item including molasses, Blacks, rum, pork and bottled beer.

    I said who cares in reference to the bigger picture which is that slavery was an Anglo enterprise…

    Quote from The Secret Relationship between Blacks and Jews:

    Jewish slave traders procured Black Africans by the tens of thousands and funneled them to the plantations of South America and throughout the Caribbean. There remains no documented trace of protest over this behavior – it was a purely commercial venture with which Judaism did not interfere. Whether the local influence was Portuguese, Dutch or English, the Black man and woman fared the same. In Curaçao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated.

  283. Eric135 says:
    @John Johnson

    [Jones] is saying that Germany’s success depended upon the Catholic Church but it hasn’t happened in Africa because they lack unity.

    Wrong. What Jones said is that the difference between sub-Saharan Africa and Germany is more than 1,000 years of Catholicism. He was talking about two Catholic sister dioceses: one in Wurzberg, Germany and one in Africa. The one in Wurzberg was founded in the 8th century A.D., the one in Africa was founded in the 20th century A.D. His point was that the Benedictine monks taught the primitive Germanic tribes the value of education and hard work.

    Instead of misquoting Jones, I suggest you listen to more of his presentations and then read some of his books.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  284. Eric135 says:
    @John Johnson

    You refer to my “wall of lecture text”. There is no such “wall.” Stop making things up.

    Why don’t you actually read through this thread before lecturing me? I made it pretty clear that I consider mainstream conservatism to be just as globalist as liberalism.

    My, aren’t we being defensive today.

    When I said that both the mainstream Left and mainstream Right are globalist, I wasn’t suggesting that you thought otherwise.

    I was giving my views, using yours as a point of departure.

    And I notice that you didn’t respond to the substance of my comment.

  285. Eric135 says:
    @dfordoom

    I had no idea there was such a simple solution…If you wish for something hard enough it just happens. That’s how magic works.

    Nice job of building a strawman and then knocking it down.

    I didn’t say it was a simple solution.

    I do say it is the only solution that whites will be able to live with over the long term.

    They will either submit to the Jews and their proxy army of non-whites, communists, and nay-sayers like you or they will go extinct.

    The Jews will keep pushing until there’s a reaction. Then they’ll be crying their crocodile tears as they always do.

  286. @geokat62

    By 1749, Lopez was generally considered to be one of the largest merchants in the country, shipping every marketable item including molasses, Blacks, rum, pork and bottled beer.

    Was molasses listed ahead of Blacks because it moves faster?

    • LOL: Eric135
  287. @explorer

    Ben Shaprio IS a hemorrhoid.

  288. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    I think Israel needs to sit down with the Palestinians and have an honest conversation about a solution.

    I think Palestine needs to sit down with the Israelis and have an honest conversation about a solution.

    There fixed it for you.

  289. Harbinger says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    Thank you for that reply. While not a monetary historian, like yourself, I’d found most of what you write through revision of history, with one door opening many more. I found out that, as you correctly state, Jews were involved in slavery pre Christianity, most certainly being part of the Roman slave trade (certainly owning the markets while Romans brought back slaves from their conquests), the Muslim Sub Saharan Slave Trade and the Ottoman Empire European slave trade and of course, today, with the prostitution, sex slave, rings into Israel. And again, this is all conveniently kept hidden from academia and the msm for obvious reasons.

    As I stated in a previous post, Churchill had stated to Lord Robert Boothby that: “Germany’s most unforgivable crime before the Second World War was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world’s trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit.” Clearly proving, beyond all shadow of doubt, that the reason for war against Germany was because of the this. Poland was simply the excuse to declare war with Germany, in order that they retake Germany’s banking system for the Rothshilds. It’s utterly disgusting that not only is this fact hidden from academia and the msm, but moreso the millions of lives lost because of it. WW2 (and WW1) were Rothschild wars. These two alone prove their family guilty of treason, crimes against humanity and genocide.

    I haven’t read much into Marcus Garvey and I didn’t know that blacks were trying to leave to go back to Africa. Understandable why Jews did their best to stop this from happening. Who else would their proxy warriors be to fight against whitey?
    As for the NAACP and Booker T Washington, I haven’t looked into them, but certainly do know that the Jews were responsible for the civil rights movement, which really turned blacks into their puppets, becoming their proxy warriors against whites and when introducing feminism, it destroyed the black family who were beginning to evolve and progress. Jews, essentially, destroyed black prosperity.

    “Virtually everything the Jews touch turns to shit, because they are anti-logos. They are against the natural order. To operate their crime schemes they are rentiers, usurers, thieves and operate immorally. In the business world, they tend to use nepotism and in-group methods. Stay away from Jews if you run a business.”

    And of course the festival of Yom Kippur and the Kol Nidrei. I just stay away from Jews. Judaism is not a race, nor an ethnicity. It’s a religious belief. People choose to be Jews. It’s utter crap that people are born into a religious order. Religion is a belief system, not racial, in the least. And the ‘tribe’ is only a tribe, again, due to its religious beliefs. There is nothing racial about Jews and there never has been.

  290. @geokat62

    Soltow estimates that 36 percent of the 625,000 [white] families in the South in 1830 were slaveholders. Of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion – 75 percent – were owners of one or more slaves.

    That doesn’t show that Jews controlled or dominated the slave trade.

    All that shows is that Jews were more likely to own slaves relative to their population size.

    Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated.

    That’s an unsubstantiated opinion from Farrakhan.

    So you are quoting the Nation of Islam on a Jewish conspiracy theory.

    I’m totally convinced.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  291. @Eric135

    Wrong. What Jones said is that the difference between sub-Saharan Africa and Germany is more than 1,000 years of Catholicism. He was talking about two Catholic sister dioceses: one in Wurzberg, Germany and one in Africa.

    I know exactly what he said.

    The problem here is that Christianity was in Africa before Europe. Just a slight detail of a problem.

    Ethiopia should be at least as advanced as any European country if long periods of Christianity makes a modern country.

    His point was that the Benedictine monks taught the primitive Germanic tribes the value of education and hard work.

    So the Germanic tribes were a bunch of layabouts before the Monks? Funny stuff. Is that why they were such a pushover for the Romans? Did the Romans show up to Tueotoburg forest to find the Germans lazing about and ready to be conquered?

    This Con Inc alternative history is really amusing. The Catholic church gets the credit for Germany but overpopulated third world Catholic countries are lacking…what?

    • Replies: @Eric135
  292. @geokat62

    Not sure about the Romans, but they sure as hell “forced” the Americans to expand their empire!

    Not sure about the Romans?

    I guess the Unz Jewish Conspiracy History Guide forgot to mention that the Romans kicked them out.

    That was the joke in my comment.

    But it’s clear that I could probably start a conspiracy theory here that blames the Jews for the Roman expansion into Europe. You see the Jewish sword makers and roman sandal traders couldn’t resist pushing those poor innocent Romans into war.

  293. Harbinger says:
    @geokat62

    You’re wasting your time, trying to prove to John Johnson, realities about Jewish history, in this case their involvement in the slave trade. Even if you gave him video evidence, from the time of the slave trade, clearly showing Jewish dominance in slave trading vessels and overwhelming control of the slave markets, he still won’t believe you.
    You’re clearly arguing with a Jew, who will deny the truth, even when presented in front of him, just like the Jew who tried to twist the words of the Kol Nidrei prayer which clearly proves the freedom of Jews to renege on all contracts made in the following year with non Jews, as nothing more than a breaking of an oath. He clearly failed to see that when, in a court of law, you act upon your oath, to tell the truth and nothing but the truth, meaning right there and then you create a verbal contract/agreement.
    But again, this is what the Jews do. They will, when faced with overwhelming fact, tell you, point blank, that it’s a lie. Even though you know it to be true, you will then double check yourself and start doubting the fact that the evidence presented is truth and then begin to wonder if it’s actually false.

    Do not argue with a Jew. It’s an act in futility.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  294. @John Johnson

    I said who cares in reference to the bigger picture which is that slavery was an Anglo enterprise and it along with the resulting civil war ended up being a disaster for the country.

    In haste to blame Whitey, everyone forgets (or wasn’t taught) the British Empire–at great cost–ended the global slave trade everywhere but muzzieland, where slavery still exists.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  295. geokat62 says:
    @Harbinger

    Do not argue with a Jew. It’s an act in futility.

    I know, I know. Wasn’t I the one who first alerted you to the fact that his real name is probably Shlomo Kohen? lol

    I would normally heed my own advice, but I decided to deviate from it because of the particular topic that was under discussion, the infamous transatlantic slave trade.

    In the event that a brother or sister was reading the comments in this thread and was interested in learning the truth about which group was responsible for running this dastardly industry, I wanted to ensure they were not deceived by a third rate hasbarat.

    And speaking of hasbarats, I used to relish the challenge of locking horns with two of the best. I’m, of course, referring to avid Zionists Nurit Bayich (Masters in Physics) and Sam Shama (PhD in Mathematical Economics). Could you imagine my despair going from debating these two pros to toying with someone who is still wet behind the ears?

    To prove I’m not exaggerating, take this one example. After I responded to his query:

    “Where is the evidence that most slave owners were Jewish?”

    by referencing two authoritative Jewish demographers whose work demonstrated that Jewish households owned twice as many slaves as white households, he quickly retorted:

    “That doesn’t show that Jews controlled or dominated the slave trade.”

    The poor little hasbarat can’t keep his queries straight in his little head! lol

    What I do in the service of my fellow goys!

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @John Johnson
  296. Harbinger says:
    @geokat62

    Your debating skills are most certainly not in question, whatsoever. I replied because regardless what evidence you gave, he would continue, stating “but where is the proof that Jews dominated the slave trade” to “it’s greedy, white capitalists” rubbish. I quoted from a Jewish historian. You quoted two. What more proof do you need? And we chose Jewish historians to prove unbias.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  297. geokat62 says:
    @Harbinger

    I replied because regardless what evidence you gave, he would continue, stating…

    No worries, Harbinger. You happen to be my favourite based Scotsman! If only all the Scots were as informed as you. Scotland would live forever. Scotland for the Scots!

  298. Harbinger says:
    @tac

    Thanks for that.
    Yes, it appears that young European origin Americans are beginning to smell the coffee and no doubt about it, the internet’s playing a huge part in their education and Hollywood and the msm, waking them up to the clear hatred of whites and blatant favouritism towards non whites within.
    As for Ben Shapiro, well, he’s just laughable to state the least. He should have stuck to playing the violin.

  299. Eric135 says:
    @John Johnson

    Christianity was in Africa before it was in Europe.

    Wrong. Christianity spread to Greece and Rome (Europe) before it spread to sub-Saharan Africa, where it had a negligible influence. Jones was talking about sub-Saharan Africa, not North Africa. So you’re comparing apples to oranges.

    Ethiopia should be at least as advanced as any European country if long periods of Christianity makes a modern country.

    I’m glad we agree that blacks are incapable of creating an advanced country.

    So the Germanic tribes were a bunch of layabouts before the Monks?

    They loved to fight and, as Jones said, “chase pigs through the forest.” It took the monks to teach them to farm and develop an advanced economy.

    The Catholic church gets the credit for Germany but overpopulated third world Catholic countries are lacking…what?

    Again, I’m glad that you are on my side and share my disgreemeent with Jones.

    He actually thinks that non-whites can create an advanced society.

    Of course, that is impossilble.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  300. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “English in the Anglo US sense, albeit not at the founding…”

    No, you are not “English in the Anglo US sense” in light of Day’s argument that you have been touting. You are a Mutt. You are not Anglo nor English. You are trying to redefine terms in your favor.

    “I just look like a big tall white phenotype with a hint of Jason Mamoa and the Basketball player Steven Adams and light brown hair. I have hazel eyes, not blue or green unfortunately.”

    You are not one of them, as hard as you try to twist and turn the criteria.

    “I’m phenotypically white enough that I get get all the demerits and lectures on white privilege and and toxic whiteness and listen to my parents insulted etc.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “Vox is native American.”

    He claims to be Native American, as well as a descendant from a famous Mexican revolutionary. Until he offers the documentary proof, he might as well call himself Martian.

    “I genuinely have no idea what is going to happen to all the mixed race people.”

    They will remain in the United States.

    “But I would accept I have to leave as a Christian duty of mortification to preserve western Civilization.”

    You don’t have to worry about this event occurring. You nor I will be deported.

    “I’ve read Aquinas and Aristotle. Vox is completely right in his logic.”

    No, he is patently wrong, as demonstrated by Mr. Krautman and I.

    “If I am given my marching orders I’ll leave. And so would you.”

    No one is leaving, especially me and my kin.

    “I’m Anglo English…”

    No. Your combination does not meet the criteria–Somaon, German, Irish, Italian, Danish, and (gasp) Jewish. Anglo is a prefix indicating a relation to the Angles, England, the English people or the English language, such as in the term Anglo-Saxon language. It is often used alone, somewhat loosely, to refer to people of British Isles descent in the Americas, New Zealand, South Africa, Australia.

    Deport yourself now if you truly care about the American nation and the saving of Western Civilization.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  301. @Mulegino1

    TRUE INSIGHT:

    But it must be understood, that at the deepest level of all, the happiness and well being of the nations represents profound misery to international Jewry. The enrichment of the latter is not what is paramount- the immiseration and corruption of the former is the true objective that makes Jewry tick and towards which it tirelessly works; its leaders know that this is precisely what leads to Jewish domination.

    p.s. encouraging to see others appear to agree with / be learning from MEFOBILLS (http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=MEFOBILLS) too, because it truly seems he knows the critical path to overthrowing the Jews.

    …the predatory Shylocks of international finance capitalism.

  302. MEH 0910 says:

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  303. @tac

    Trump, Jr. brought along his nitwit girlfriend, Kimberly Guillfoyle and, worst of all, allowed her to speak.

    If she must be allowed to participate in the conversation, Trump, Jr. needs to confine her to answering yes/no questions and then only by jumping up and down once for “yes” and twice for “no.”

  304. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

  305. MEH 0910 says:

  306. @geokat62

    Here is what you said

    The point is the Jews ran the slave trade.

    You haven’t proven that.

    Pointing out that Jewish households were more likely to own slaves does not mean that they ran the slave trade.

    The Dutch were also more likely to own slaves. This doesn’t mean they dominated the entire trade.

    You made a claim and did not prove it.

  307. @Eric135

    Wrong. Christianity spread to Greece and Rome (Europe) before it spread to sub-Saharan Africa, where it had a negligible influence. Jones was talking about sub-Saharan Africa, not North Africa. So you’re comparing apples to oranges.

    Don’t be pedantic, of course I am talking about Europe outside the Mediterranean.

    Kingdom of Askum (Ethiopia) had Christianity well before the Germans and yet they didn’t become Germany.

    That is the point and shows that Jones is just a Con Inc huckster.

    They loved to fight and, as Jones said, “chase pigs through the forest.” It took the monks to teach them to farm and develop an advanced economy.

    Jones needs to visit a museum. There are intact German plows that predate Christianity.

    Again, I’m glad that you are on my side and share my disagreement with Jones.

    Well I am definitely not on anyone’s side here. Half the people here think I am Jewish, the other half agrees with my criticisms of Con Inc which is supposedly a Jewish operation according to the same group that thinks I am Jewish. So I guess I’m here to undermine myself according to this fascinating logic.

    But with that said I don’t believe that people are interchangeable and that we can turn Ethiopians into Germans. I wish that weren’t the case but all evidence I have looked at says otherwise. I’m open to alternative theories and I don’t care for crass solutions that denigrate people. But Con Inc and liberal/left explanations are problematic to say the least.

    The point I was really making is that it is hard to call Con Inc a Jewish movement when it is dominated with non-Jews like Jones. Amusingly he has a history of criticizing Jews. The reality is that Con Inc is trying to be mainstream. It isn’t a Jewish conspiracy, it’s more of a marketing strategy just like trying to sell a product with mixed race actors in your commercials. But for Con Inc it doesn’t work very well and is a losing strategy.

    • Replies: @Eric135
  308. @Sick of Orcs

    In haste to blame Whitey, everyone forgets (or wasn’t taught) the British Empire–at great cost–ended the global slave trade everywhere but muzzieland, where slavery still exists.

    I’m aware of that and I am not trying to promote White guilt. In fact I’m very critical of liberalism which not only tries to pin slavery on Whites but completely ignores what you said which is that the Anglo-sphere ended the trade. Arabs never wanted to end the trade and yes slavery is still practiced in Sudan which doesn’t seem to bother liberals.

    I just don’t believe that slavery was a Jewish operation, nor do I look at US history and blame every negative aspect or war on the Jews. That to me seems like an avoidance of culpability.

  309. geokat62 says:

    To introduce a little objectivity into this discussion, I’ve decided to reference The Atlantic… hardly a hotbed of antisemitic contributors!

    Excerpts from, Slavery and the Jews: A review of The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews: Volume One

    [Prof. Tony] Martin assigned to one of his classes portions of the [The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews: Volume One], which singles out Jews for special prominence in the Atlantic slave trade and for having played a particularly prominent role in the enslavement of Africans in the Americas…

    If one were to inquire more neutrally into what role Jews played in the Atlantic slave trade, one would find that it was a considerable one during the formative years of the trade…

    The reasons for the important role of Jews in the early years of the slave trade are not hard to find. To put the matter in summary terms, Jews in medieval Europe had effectively been pushed by the Western branch of the Christian Church away from land ownership and into commerce and financial dealings. During those early years of western overseas expansion many Jews continued to find opportunities for drawing wealth from commerce and finance. Under heavy threat in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, many Portuguese and Spanish Jews found refuge in the Netherlands, a quasi-nation that by that time had a widely reputed tolerance for religious diversity. Jewish citizens of the Netherlands were able to participate in domestic and foreign trade, including the slave trade on the coast of West Africa and in the Americas. These Jews, along with many Christian Dutch traders, supplied slaves not only to the Dutch colonial enterprises in Brazil and Surinam but also to Curaçao and other islands in the Antilles for transhipment to the New World colonies of other European nations. Ironically, Jews were therefore able to make major investments in landed enterprises–which in tropical America meant slave plantations–in Brazil and then Surinam.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1995/09/slavery-and-the-jews/376462/

    • Replies: @Eric135
  310. @MEFOBILLS

    Blacks must consistently ask themselves this question, not just as to history but in current and prospective decision-making as to whom to heed:

    The NAACP was started by New York Jewish money, and this organization shunted blacks into lawfare and a permanent underclass as Jewish pets. Negroes today are dupes and pets of Jewish money and thought constructs.

    Booker T. Washington wanted blacks to have families and businesses, and be trained in black colleges.

    Who is more life-giving, the Christians that backed Booker T. or the Jews who backed W.E.B. Dubois and NAACP?

  311. @Anonymous

    idiots are the ones who think faith can save them from reality.

    Like your blind, unreasoning faith in the long-debunked semitic canard of muh Blank Slate?

    I see.

    I want an explicit answer on what is the problem with brown people?

    They’re not us. Not a difficult concept to comprehend for anyone with an IQ > room temperature, btw…

    If China was being invaded by tens of millions of non-Chinese, would you be directing your incoherent, emotionally-incontinent rants at any Han who dared to object?

    Do you spend much time harassing the Israeli government about their “problem” with non-jews that leads them to exclude them from immigration to Israel?

    Or do you direct all of your ignorant, hate-filled vitriol at the indigenous peoples of Europe and their diaspora?

    Yeah, that’s what I thought — you’re just trying (and conspicuously failing) to rationalize your virulent anti-White hatred.

    • Agree: Eric135
  312. @Corvinus

    It’s clear that you feel some very strong — even overwhelming — feelz about the issue of jewish civilian casualties in WW2, and the alleged guilt of ALL white goyim in somehow “causing” those casualties. So, just to humor you:

    What actual evidence do you have to support your ludicrously ignorant, hate-filled claim that current year white Americans are somehow “morally responsible” for the absolutely, positively, 100% certainly proven gassing of 6 billion rootless cosmopolitans in fake shower rooms, with insecticide, in Europe… 80 years ago?

    Just curious.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  313. Harbinger says:
    @Corvinus

    “Except the fact of the matter is that the Holocaust occurred.”

    I actually looked for an article, written by the ‘then’ much respected and one of the last investigative journalists around, named Kevin Myers. He wrote an article that appeared in the Belfast Telegraph and the Irish Times called ‘There Was No Holocaust’. To my dismay the article wasn’t there. Even more shocked I was when I found out that he’s been sacked, most certainly for this article, but also because he criticised Jewry and wasn’t afraid to scrape the nerve on many of his articles, unlike most of the copy & paste, from Reuters News Agency, hacks today who pass themselves off as journalists.
    Ironically, he wasn’t denying that 6million Jews were murdered, rather he was stating that they weren’t all cremated, thus there were no ‘whole burnt offerings’ as is what the holocaust actually means. The Jews, have decided to hijack this word and give it a completely different meaning, just as homosexuals did with gay and homosexual women with the word Lesbian.
    I did however find this article on why he was sacked. The Jews do not like being called out.

    The holocaust did not occur, that is the lie that 6 million Jews were murdered by the national socialists of Germany during WW2. However, what I will certainly state, that also has overwhelming proof, is that there were holocausts (sacrifices for the Jews, by order of the Jews) in Dresden, Nagasaki and Hiroshima. There were no mass graves of Jewish dead to compare numbers in the camps. There also was no finding of DNA, around camps that would have been deposited after coming out the so called cremation chimneys. In other words, no proof whatsoever, other than word of mouth, which is nothing more than convenient lies and propaganda to promote an agenda, that people today are waking up to seeing that there was no extermination of Jews.

    And I will finish by stating that I really couldn’t care whether 6, 60, 600, 6 thousand, 6 million, or 6 bazillion Jews are murdered. It means nothing to me whatsoever, none whatsoever at all. What I do, however find very important is that over 100 million NON Jews were murdered in WW2, because OF Jews, that is those behind WW2 and the declaration of war upon Germany by Britain, France and the USA (well their declaration of war on Japan an ally of Germany, deliberately provoked into attacking the USA).
    Anyone who bothers to research and ignore the page, upon page of publishing propaganda about WW2, will know that Churchill was in the employ of the Focus Group, bankrolling his lavish lifestyle, living well outside his means and who was essentially a mouthpiece for International Jewry/Zionism and deliberately launched a war, against Germany on their behalf, using the excuse of a Polish invasion to get the ball rolling. He was hated in Britain. The average Briton had his number long ago, but sadly, he was in charge and they followed. Many to their deaths, fighting for the Jewish state in the murder of their fellow Europeans, most certainly distant cousins and thus kith and kin.

    People today, truly who parrot the Holocaust narrative today are either truly ignorant, goyim or hasbarat trolls. Your views are not going to work on here Corvinus. We’re simply not stupid enough.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  314. @Corvinus

    No one is redefining terms.

    I never said I was fully Anglo-American, only part.

    https://accordingtohoyt.com/2016/02/28/i-was-born-american-a-blast-from-the-past-7-4-2014/

    We are reaching the full absurdity of your civic-nationalism – where a woman born in Portugal to Portugese parents claims to be American.

    https://apnews.com/e0d349d27568425cb04541d380839e1e?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics

    Here the former President of Iran takes your view to it’s logical conclusion – the whole world is American. Because it is merely an idea.

    “”In other words, the contemporary U.S. belongs to all nations, including the natives of the land,” he wrote. “No one may consider themselves the owner and view others as guests or immigrants.””

    So you are aligned with the great enemy of Israel – which makes you a vile, foul anti-semite.

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/06/22/mexican-candidate-immigration-speech/

    The socialist, borderline communist President of Mexico, AMLO has said that any immigrant with the necessity has a ‘human right’ to immigrate to the United States at any time.

    Right, so you’re denying the US a right to national security, or borders, or even a right to exist. In fact, it doesn’t exist. It’s everyone and no one.

    You never answered the question of what happens when that idea is reneged upon, what are the consequences for changing the proposition? I haven’t changed it. But Ben Shaprio in his plagiarism of Strauss is changing it.

    Americans are a distinct nation with their own DNA, customs, traditions and culture. And there is proximity to that set of national factors.

    I am partly American by DNA, and I am western. I am not engaged in replacement theology, trying to force people to accomodate to a non-American way of life. I don’t agitate. I am fully integrated.

    I think I’ll make the cut.

    But you won’t.

    I’ll self-deport maybe after you and the other cretins in the GOPe and a huge swathe of sweltering diversity have been deported.

    I would never condone violence.

    https://www.azmirror.com/2019/10/04/gop-senator-az-foster-kids-are-being-sold-into-sexual-slavery/

    Say, do you know anything about those hundreds of kids just ‘going missing’ from Arizona that Senator Farnsworth says are being sold in child sex slavery? It’s weird huh. You’d think a story that incredible would be getting enormous press coverage and be a Republican establishment priority. But it seems like Senator Farnsworth is being impeded and suffering threats.

    I wonder whose involved?

    Farnsworth says that Senators Linda-Collins Smith and Jonathan Nichols were ‘executed’ for investigating the phenomenon.

    You sound like you’re ranking GOPe. Maybe you know something helpful to the investigation?

    You’re right, this will never kick off. But maybe I’ll self-deport after the people less proximate then me responsible for that sort of thing have been removed, in Minecraft.

    And maybe Fuentes is just another Laura Loomer type controlled opposition. Who knows. But he’s just a historical phenomneon.

    If Cuckservatives didn’t exist, I’d just be pure American. Oh well. Can’t have it all.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  315. Eric135 says:
    @John Johnson

    Don’t be pedantic.

    Then don’t be inaccurate.

    Jones needs to visit a museum. There are intact German plows that predate Christianity.

    How fascinating. What museum are you talking about?

    …it is hard to call Con Inc a Jewish movement when it is dominated by non-Jews like Jones.

    What is Con Inc.?

    If you mean pro-Zionist neo-conservatism, Jones is not a part of that.

  316. Eric135 says:
    @geokat62

    Excerpts from Slavery and the Jews…Jews in medieval Europe had effectively been pushed by the Western branch of the Christian Church away from land ownership and into commerce and financial dealings…

    This is a typical Jewish lie that has been repeated by foolish goyim for decades if not centuries. The Church didn’t push the Jews into doing anything. What it did was forbid Christians to engage in usury. So Jews took over anything having to do with usury — making loans bearing interest — and attained a dominant position in the world economy.

    Another Jewish myth is that Jews were forced to live in ghettos. As Werner Sombart has shown, the ones who were not court Jews ghettoized themselves. They looked down on the goyim (beasts) and wanted nothing to do with them. Rabbis wanted Jews ghettoized so they could make them submit to Jewish law. In many cases, rabbis were allowed to impose the death penalty without the permission of the non-Jewish authorities.

  317. @EliteCommInc.

    It’s unfortunate that ignorant, hate-filled individuals like yourself are still making these pathetic, failed attempts to promote long-discredited race-denialist tropes in the current year.

    Educate yourself.

    Let go of your hatred.

    Try to be more tolerant.

    For your own sake — since it’s clear you don’t care about anyone else.

  318. @dfordoom

    Thanks for demonstrating so clearly how toxic, hate-filled semitism is entirely based on projection.

  319. @John Johnson

    Your continued pathetic failure to cite even the merest iota of evidence in support of your ignorant, hate-filled jew slave trade denialism is duly noted.

    Sad!

  320. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “No one is redefining terms. I never said I was fully Anglo-American, only part.”

    Of course you are redefining terms. Either you are Anglo-American or not Anglo-American. There is no “part” or “some” or “mostly” involved here. You’re a Mutt. Nothing wrong with that in the least. However, to Vox Day and company, you and your ilk are decidedly not one of “U.S.” or one of them.

    You have to go back.

    “We are reaching the full absurdity of your civic-nationalism – where a woman born in Portugal to Portugese parents claims to be American.”

    Not claims, is.

    “So you are aligned with the great enemy of Israel – which makes you a vile, foul anti-semite…Right, so you’re denying the US a right to national security, or borders, or even a right to exist. In fact, it doesn’t exist. It’s everyone and no one.”

    More

    “You never answered the question of what happens when that idea is reneged upon, what are the consequences for changing the proposition? I haven’t changed it.”

    You only posed this question now. The Founding Fathers enabled their posterity, i.e. future generations, to make those decisions. The proposition in this context has not changed.

    “Americans are a distinct nation with their own DNA, customs, traditions and culture.”

    One that incorporates different races and ethnicities. It’s an amalgamation of ideas.

    “I am partly American by DNA, and I am western.”

    Again, there is no “partly” according to Day’s logic. Either you are or are not. By your logic, Kenyans, the Vietnamese, and Guatemalans also fit your description.

    “I think I’ll make the cut. But you won’t.”

    There will be “no cut”. There is no sustained, pervasive, large-scale movement by whites to remove “non-whites” or “race traitors” or any other category of a similar nature that you can think of. No one is going to be deported.

    You don’t even realize if you are coming or going anymore…

  321. @Corvinus

    “Again, there is no “partly” according to Day’s logic. Either you are or are not. By your logic, Kenyans, the Vietnamese, and Guatemalans also fit your description.”

    You’re an imbecile. Vietnamese, Squatmelans and Kenyans aren’t Anglo-American genetically. You don’t know what virtue signalling is, you don’t know how to analogise.

    “Of course you are redefining terms. Either you are Anglo-American or not Anglo-American. There is no “part” or “some” or “mostly” involved here. You’re a Mutt. Nothing wrong with that in the least. However, to Vox Day and company, you and your ilk are decidedly not one of “U.S.” or one of them.
    You have to go back”.

    Yes, a full Anglo-American is more American then I am. And someone who isn’t genetically Anglo-American like you is less American then I am.

    Maybe I will. But before that, you certainly would.

    “You only posed this question now. The Founding Fathers enabled their posterity, i.e. future generations, to make those decisions. The proposition in this context has not changed.”

    The Founding Fathers intended Somalis to govern Minnesota?

    You still haven’t answered the question as to how your views are any different at all to Mahmoud Ahmadenijad and the President of Mexico.

    Is the entire world American?

    https://www.euractiv.com/section/development-policy/news/africas-population-set-to-double-by-2050-says-new-report/

    Is every single one of those 2.5billion Africans really just an American because ‘they want a better life’? Are they all ‘European’?

    You call yourself a Christian, and you would condemn the entire Christian heritage of Europe to simply be wiped out.

    “There will be “no cut”. There is no sustained, pervasive, large-scale movement by whites to remove “non-whites” or “race traitors” or any other category of a similar nature that you can think of. No one is going to be deported.”

    Not yet.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/12/more-than-half-of-italians-in-poll-say-racism-is-justifiable

    Here is one example of it.

    A plurality of Italians say racism is justifiable, because it is. Because it’s a completely rational response to fourth generation warfare.

    We are living at the end of the American Empire, which was defeated in Syria, and we are at the end of an unprecedented debt-fuelled economic prosperity that created peak social mood, and we are now on the descent from that peak.

    Watch what happens in Europe over the next ten years.

    “You don’t even realize if you are coming or going anymore…”

    No, it’s the cuckservatives who are totally deluded.

    As I posted in an earlier essay, you have no sense of urgency, because you don’t understand that there is even anything wrong, anywhere, which is perverse. You guys don’t even believe there is anything at stake.

    You haven’t answered any of the questions I asked. Are Mahmoud Ahmadenijad and the Mexican communist right? Is the whole world American?

    What happened to thsoe five hundred and fifty children who just ‘got lost’ from Child Protective Services? Why is the GOP establishment threatening Senator Farnsworth? Why do so many children go missing in the United States under both parties?

    If all nations are immigrants, then there are no nations, and we know who wants to destroy the nations from the Bible don’t we fellow-Christian.

    You’re hilarious – you just keep coming back to my genetic mixed heritage as if that has anything to do with the existence of an American nation.

    It has as much to do with it as the existence of a distinct Vietnamese nation.

    You and fake paper-Americans like Ben Shapiro aren’t going to be permitted to simply define out of existence a distinct American nation, or a distinct Western civilization.

    It’s pointless.

    You have zero intellectual rejoinders to anything except alignment with Mahmoud Ahmedinjad, the Communist President of Mexico, and actually Muammar Gaddafi, who said something similar. That, and pointing out that my mixed white phenotype alongside Anglo-American might create problems.

    Well it might – it doesn’t change definitions.

    Pathetic.

    Cuckservatives are totally pathetic.

    Even Tom Wolfe picked up on this:

    “Did anybody high or low look for a Frédéric-Auguste Bartholdi to create a new tribute on the order of the Statue of Liberty for the nation that in the twentieth century, even more so than in the nineteenth, opened her arms to people from all over the globe—to Vietnamese, Thais, Cambodians, Laotians, Hmong, Ethiopians, Albanians, Senegalese, Guyanese, Eritreans, Cubans, as well as everybody else—and made sure they enjoyed full civil rights, including the means to take political power in a city the size of Miami if they could muster the votes?

    And as soon as American immigration restrictions were relaxed in the 1960s, people of every land, every color, every religion, people from Africa, Asia, South America, and the Caribbean, began pouring into the United States.
    – Tom Wolfe, Hooking Up”

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/18/tucker_carlson_rep_ilhan_omar_a_symbol_of_americas_failed_immigration_system.html?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=mixi&utm_campaign=realclearpolitics

    Ilhan Omar is your fault. It’s not a coincidence the 1965 Immigration Act was legislated by immigrants and the children of immigrants.

    Conservatives are incoherent children. You are forced to pretend that the Somali Bigamist is a real American paper-citizen, even as you cuck for Israel and cry about her very real anti-semitism. That kind of tensions pervades all of your thinking, the same as it pervades the progressive left in their hierachy of identities and victimhoods.

    Anyway enough has been said, I’m satisfied that you have nothing new to offer at this point except irrelevant personalisation and blithe assurances that all is well in Rome.

    You won’t answer whether Madmoud and AMLO are right, because you know the answer.

    Good day.

    Let’s see what unfolds over the next 20 years.

    It’s absolutely shameful.

    You disgust me.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  322. geokat62 says:

    Flint Clint – The Founding Fathers intended Somalis to govern Minnesota?

    Corvinus – Yes, of course. All human beings are interchangeable. That said, Israel has every right to remain a Jewish State… so all schvartzes must be deported, immediately!

  323. Corvinus says:

    “You’re an imbecile. Vietnamese, Squatmelans and Kenyans aren’t Anglo-American genetically. You don’t know what virtue signalling is, you don’t know how to analogise.”

    Another one of your strawmen.

    “Yes, a full Anglo-American is more American then I am. And someone who isn’t genetically Anglo-American like you is less American then I am.”

    I’m Polish, Dutch, and German. Since you have Jewish and Samoan blood, I am more “pure” than you regarding this “genetic Anglo-American”. I get to stay…you have to go back.

    “Maybe I will. But before that, you certainly would.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “The Founding Fathers intended Somalis to govern Minnesota?”

    They intended future generations to decide who is and who is not part of the body politic. Again, employing your logic did the Founding Fathers intend the Germans to govern Pennsylvania? Benjamin Franklin did not believe so.

    “You still haven’t answered the question as to how your views are any different at all to Mahmoud Ahmadenijad and the President of Mexico.”

    Another strawman on your part.

    “Is every single one of those 2.5billion Africans really just an American because ‘they want a better life’? Are they all ‘European’?”

    You are attributing to me an argument that I did not make, nor intended to make, and then subsequently calling me out on that argument. That is your m.o. You’re only fooling yourself.

    “You call yourself a Christian, and you would condemn the entire Christian heritage of Europe to simply be wiped out.”

    Another strawman.

    “A plurality of Italians say racism is justifiable, because it is. Because it’s a completely rational response to fourth generation warfare.”

    Due to the fundamental attribution theory. Remember, they were also called out as being undesirable and incapable of becoming Americans.

    “As I posted in an earlier essay, you have no sense of urgency, because you don’t understand that there is even anything wrong, anywhere, which is perverse. You guys don’t even believe there is anything at stake.”

    Another strawman.

    “You and fake paper-Americans like Ben Shapiro aren’t going to be permitted to simply define out of existence a distinct American nation, or a distinct Western civilization.”

    The American nation is distinct in that it consists of different races and ethnicities.

    “Ilhan Omar is your fault. It’s not a coincidence the 1965 Immigration Act was legislated by immigrants and the children of immigrants.”

    LOL, you’re ancestors are immigrants. They, and you shouldn’t be here. You have to go back.

    “You are forced to pretend that the Somali Bigamist is a real American paper-citizen, even as you cuck for Israel and cry about her very real anti-semitism. That kind of tensions pervades all of your thinking, the same as it pervades the progressive left in their hierachy of identities and victimhoods.”

    All your lies are belong to us.

    Are you finally done now with your rant?

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @Flint Clint
  324. Corvinus says:
    @James Forrestal

    “It’s clear that you feel some very strong — even overwhelming — feelz about the issue of jewish civilian casualties in WW2, and the alleged guilt of ALL white goyim in somehow “causing” those casualties.”

    You mean I and other normal, reasonable people understand the atrocities which were committed during World War II on both sides, with a keen awareness of the events referred to as the Holocaust.

    You really need to be accurate in your description next time.

    “What actual evidence do you have to support your ludicrously ignorant, hate-filled claim that current year white Americans are somehow “morally responsible”…”

    I see that you are taking FlintClint’s strawman grist machine and ramping it up to maximum power.

    “for the absolutely, positively, 100% certainly proven gassing of 6 billion rootless cosmopolitans in fake shower rooms, with insecticide, in Europe… 80 years ago?”

    It’s called a library. There you will find various historical accounts, with archived footage and first hand accounts from both sides (Jews and Germans), about the Holocaust, which actually occurred.

    Man, are you ignorant.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  325. Corvinus says:
    @Harbinger

    “I actually looked for an article, written by the ‘then’ much respected and one of the last investigative journalists around, named Kevin Myers…”

    Speaking of him…

    Myers was defended by the chair of the Jewish Representative Council of Ireland, Maurice Cohen, who said that Myers was not antisemitic, but had rather “inadvertently stumbled into an antisemitic trope. … Branding Kevin Myers as either an antisemite or a Holocaust denier is an absolute distortion of the facts.” Myers apologised for this article on radio, saying that “it is over for me professionally as far as I can see”, and that “I think they [Jewish people] are the most gifted people who have ever existed on this planet and civilisation owes an enormous debt to them – I am very, very sorry that I should have so offended them.”

    “The holocaust did not occur, that is the lie that 6 million Jews were murdered by the national socialists of Germany during WW2.”

    Actually, the Holocaust did occur. Now, we can dispute the numbers, but it is clear that there was a genocide of Jews. Hate fact, to be sure.

    “However, what I will certainly state, that also has overwhelming proof, is that there were holocausts (sacrifices for the Jews, by order of the Jews) in Dresden, Nagasaki and Hiroshima.”

    No, not holocausts, but acts which are committed in a war, the purpose, of course, is to win.

    “There were no mass graves of Jewish dead to compare numbers in the camps. There also was no finding of DNA, around camps that would have been deposited after coming out the so called cremation chimneys.”

    Not necessarily.

    “What I do, however find very important is that over 100 million NON Jews were murdered in WW2, because OF Jews, that is those behind WW2 and the declaration of war upon Germany by Britain, France and the USA (well their declaration of war on Japan an ally of Germany, deliberately provoked into attacking the USA).”

    Actually, that figure is the result of the actions taken by Germany, Italy, and Japan. Hate fact, to be sure.

    “Anyone who bothers to research and ignore the page, upon page of publishing propaganda about WW2…”

    Do you enjoy being bamboozled?

    “Your views are not going to work on here Corvinus. We’re simply not stupid enough.”

    It’s not stupidity on your part, it’s ignorance of another dimension. But it’s OK be white and wrong!

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  326. anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @4justice

    agree w/ a good deal of what you say — Catholics are tuned out.

    Someone earlier & elsewhere advocated talking back to the priest in Church — I suppose that might work, but the parish priest is just a functionary, has no authority.
    Go to the Bishop’s Mass and give him an earful.

    BUT make it more of an E Michael Jones earful than a Nick Fuentes.

    Good that the issue of subservience to Israel is being raised, but Fuentes’ cookies rant set revisionism back ten years and does absolutely nothing to elevate the image of Catholics.
    He’s ignorant, ought to keep his mouth shut until he has something substantive & articulate to say, and then he should work very very hard at saying it persuasively and articulately. Lacing rhetoric with obscenity is not a winning strategy, it’s a mark of an uncultivated mind.
    I’ve been over-dosing on rock-n-roll videos and can’t get over how much practice, discipline, effort & energy the good performers invest in their performances. If Bruce Springsteen @70 still works out to keep his body & psyche in shape, how much more someone who aspires to nationwide political impact should prepare him/herself for the task.
    Demosthenes practiced at the seashore with stones in his mouth. THAT is the level of effort a solid activist should demand of himself; if he’s not willing, step aside and don’t spoil the platform for those who DO study, read, assemble solid information and sound arguments, practice practice practice.

    Fuentes and Kirk etc. fighting over who-called-who-what-name is embarrassing, ineffective, counterproductive. It’s toddlers in a sandbox.
    Somebody take Fuentes in tow and mentor him; saturate him with Unzian information, clean up his language and his so-called debating skills — exchanging insults is not an argument.

  327. @Corvinus

    “You’re an imbecile. Vietnamese, Squatmelans and Kenyans aren’t Anglo-American genetically. You don’t know what virtue signalling is, you don’t know how to analogise.”
    Another one of your strawmen.

    A strawman?!

    Hahaha. Oh my goodness.

    “I’m Polish, Dutch, and German. Since you have Jewish and Samoan blood, I am more “pure” than you regarding this “genetic Anglo-American”. I get to stay…you have to go back.”

    Both of those comments stem from the same problem.

    I’m Anglo-American genetically in part. Polish Dutch and German if not traced to those who were in the mixed white states at the founding are not Anglo-American. But they are western. Vietnamese, Guatemalans and Kenyans aren’t western in terms of nationality.

    It’s a very clear set of profiles of identity relative to the American nation. I don’t believe you’re truly this stupid, so I am going to assume you are just being disingenuous.

    It isn’t hard to understand. You just affect not to understand it.

    In Jewish terms I might be considered a Mischling, if someone was being very generous and bent the rules slightly.

    I’m much more American genetically then I would be Mischling.

    “You are attributing to me an argument that I did not make, nor intended to make, and then subsequently calling me out on that argument. That is your m.o. You’re only fooling yourself.”

    No, you’re the only fool.

    That is precisely the logical culmination of your position of civic nationalism not just with respect to who is American, but also who is even European.

    You’re just being ridiculous. Logically, if being American is just a proposition, and Sarah Hoyt born in Portugal to two Portugese parents is more American then Apple Pie, then every single one of those 2.5billion Africans who claim that they are American or European are.

    This is not a straw-man or whatever other evasive and inapplicable concept you are using to escape the implications of this position in your tiny mind.

    That is the position of civic-nationalism that denies that there is an American nation, or even distinct European nations.

    ““You call yourself a Christian, and you would condemn the entire Christian heritage of Europe to simply be wiped out.”

    Another strawman.”

    You’re hilarious. What do you think would be the consequence of 60million African Muslims descending upon Italy?

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/14942/italy-mass-immigration-suicide

    You are absolutely and totally deluded and ridiculous.

    “The current government knows perfectly well what is at stake. “From now to 2050 and 2060, we will have to face an epochal question from 50 to 60 million people who will arrive in the Mediterranean world”, MP Nicola Morra, MP in the governmental majority, recently said”

    This isn’t theoretical.

    I’ve seen my ancestral grottos. I’ve been in the Churches of my fathers in Italy. Every single one will be turned into a Mosque, denuded of it’s realist vision and images of Christ and the ancient houses of Italy, removed of it’s renaissance sculptures, and all of the crucifixes, crucibles, everything, will be taken away and destroyed, with maybe some kept in museums as curiosities of a dead people – like the ancient Egyptians.

    That is what will happen. That is exactly what happened in the entire former Byzantine empire. That is what happened in the Balkans under Islamic incusions. That is what has happened even in Southern Italy before when the Barbary pirates were slaving my ancestors.

    You actually are a cretin.

    60million people by 2060 you gormless fake Christian – and almost all of them will be Muslim.

    These won’t even be the Moors of Northern Africa. This is pure Africa.

    You cut an absolutely pathetic spectacle. Like King Canute ordering the Ocean tides not to roll in.

    This new Jewish EU government wants to give all invaders Italian citizenship after merely being at school for 5 years. That will mean the end of what little remains of the Italian State.

    St Peters and St Pauls outside the Walls and all the seven major Bascilicae will be desecrated and profaned.

    I know you’re not a Catholic, but that would be catastrophic for Christianity as a whole.

    And the story of Italy can be repeated in all the ancient Christian houses of Europe, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Spain – we’ve already seen Notre Dame be subjected to systematic arson, probably by the French Rothschild Jewish state.

    If you believe in the immigration on that scale of non-Christians do destroy the houses of God you are a fake Christian. You aren’t Christian. You are an agent of Lucifer and an agent of the enemies of Christianity.

    ““A plurality of Italians say racism is justifiable, because it is. Because it’s a completely rational response to fourth generation warfare.”
    Due to the fundamental attribution theory. Remember, they were also called out as being undesirable and incapable of becoming Americans.”

    You’re such a faggot. This doesn’t apply to America. You said my predictions ever zero congruence. That’s proof that they absolutely do. And the same logic, the exact same, applies to the American nation, whatever is left of it. You are a cretin. You attributed the analogy to the wrong subject, again.

    ““As I posted in an earlier essay, you have no sense of urgency, because you don’t understand that there is even anything wrong, anywhere, which is perverse. You guys don’t even believe there is anything at stake.”
    Another strawman.”

    You don’t know what that is – so what is the current problem that is affecting the United States and the West then? You have asserted that everything I’ve said is wrong, and that there are no issues anywhere.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  328. Harbinger says:
    @Corvinus

    “Myers was defended by the chair of the Jewish Representative Council of Ireland, Maurice Cohen, who said that Myers was not antisemitic, but had rather “inadvertently stumbled into an antisemitic trope. … Branding Kevin Myers as either an antisemite or a Holocaust denier is an absolute distortion of the facts.” Myers apologised for this article on radio, saying that “it is over for me professionally as far as I can see”, and that “I think they [Jewish people] are the most gifted people who have ever existed on this planet and civilisation owes an enormous debt to them – I am very, very sorry that I should have so offended them.””

    Myers stated what he did because firstly, he is ignorant to history on this subject and most certainly tried to salvage what he could of his career, by essentially, prostrating himself infront of the ruling, hidden, Jewish plutocracy. His article, which I would have liked to have quoted from, essentially defined that in the context of the true definition of holocaust, there was no ‘Jewish’ holocaust. It’s simply a fact. Just as the homosexuals have hijacked the word ‘gay’, Jews have hijacked the word ‘holocaust’ and turned it, falsely, into genocide. There was no genocide of Jews in WW2. There was, however, a defense, by Germany, against Bolshevik Jews, who sought to destroy, not just Germany, but all of the western civilisation.

    “Actually, the Holocaust did occur. Now, we can dispute the numbers, but it is clear that there was a genocide of Jews. Hate fact, to be sure.”

    No, Corvinus, no hate fact and no holocaust, as described above. you can pontificate as much as you wish, but there were NO ‘whole burnt offerings’ of Jews and there was no genocide of Jews. What there was, was a clear attempts to remove a very harmful, destructive entity from Germany, most notably, communist Jews. That is a simple fact, hidden from history, courtesy of Jewish control of it.

    “No, not holocausts, but acts which are committed in a war, the purpose, of course, is to win.”

    Again, you clearly ignore the definition of holocaust. The fire bombing of Dresden and H-bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, very much the definition of holocaust, not only a deliberate ‘whole burnt offerings’ but also in the modern, false Jewish definition of the word – a genocide also.

    “Not necessarily.”

    Yes, necessarily. No evidence of the 6 million dead whatsoever. Just convenient Jewish lies of those who died, that has become a case of “the Jews said so so it’s true” BS.

    “Actually, that figure is the result of the actions taken by Germany, Italy, and Japan. Hate fact, to be sure.”

    The overwhelming death tolls, of non Jews, were as a direct result of the Jewish owned (Focus Group) of Winston Churchill who declared war on Germany, because they’d created a banking system that shut out the Rothschild private bankers, from usury parasitism of the non Jews. The Churchill declaration of war on Germany, was directly as a result of this (also because they ransomed Louis Nathaniel de Rothschild for $21million) and not the convenient lie of the invasion of Poland. They didn’t give a rat’s arse about the Poles.

    “Do you enjoy being bamboozled?”

    No, but I do enjoy people trying to refute the unrefutable as you have done with your reply.

    “It’s not stupidity on your part, it’s ignorance of another dimension. But it’s OK be white and wrong!”

    Corvinus, there is no ignorance, whatsoever, from my part. There is only the attempts of yourself, trying to prove me wrong and denying simple facts presented before you.
    Again, as stated many times before, you, like many other ‘whites’ who defend the lies of history, that is the Jewish narrative are either incredibly ignorant, suffering from cognitive dissonance or a shabbos goyim. I really don’t know. You’ve been going back and forward with Flint Clint, hammer and tongs and you simply won’t accept facts, presented before you. This therefore leads me to simply believe that you are, infact, NOT white, but a member of the tribe and doing your utmost best to simply deny the truth in order to promote your propaganda.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  329. @Corvinus

    ““You and fake paper-Americans like Ben Shapiro aren’t going to be permitted to simply define out of existence a distinct American nation, or a distinct Western civilization.”
    The American nation is distinct in that it consists of different races and ethnicities.””

    No it is not distinct in consisting of many different races and ethnicities. That would be the rapidly crumbling American empire and the American state.

    The American nation is the Anglo-American genetic posterity and other mixed white Europeans present at the founding. That’s who they are.

    You’re just redefining what a nation and a state is. Don’t do that. You will not be permitted to do that.

    There is also no Judeo-Christianity:https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-myth-of-the-judeo-christian-tradition/

    ““You are forced to pretend that the Somali Bigamist is a real American paper-citizen, even as you cuck for Israel and cry about her very real anti-semitism. That kind of tensions pervades all of your thinking, the same as it pervades the progressive left in their hierachy of identities and victimhoods.”
    All your lies are belong to us.
    Are you finally done now with your rant?”

    Hahahaha.

    You have no idea what any of these phrases even mean. It’s cringeworthy seeing you use terms like ‘straw-man’ etc.

    Well, tell me your views on Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib.

    You also still haven’t answered the question – are Mahmoud Ahmadenijad, Muammar Gaddafi and Andrés Manuel López Obrador right?

    That’s what you have to say to a new generation of young conservative men.

    I should be absolutely central to the civic-nationalist view. I’m not, because I’m just repulsed by the sheer gormlessness of people like you.

    Tell me, right now, what is the correct policy response to 60 million almost uniformly African and Middle-Eastern Muslim immigrants descending upon the ancestral home of European Christianity in only the next 40 years? What is the cuckservative civic-nationalist response to this phenomenon.

    What is it?

    I’m proud of Jews who don’t pretend. I can only imagine the contempt the Jews feel who farm the pig evanglicals for false ideas based out of Genesis 12:3.

    Sometimes I wish I was just full Jewish so I didn’t have to deal with cretins like you. Jews are very admirable for their defence of their own and their homeland.

    Israel is not Judeo-Christian, and conversely neither is the American nation. One is Jewish, one is Christian, and nary the two should ever meet.

    ““Ilhan Omar is your fault. It’s not a coincidence the 1965 Immigration Act was legislated by immigrants and the children of immigrants.”
    LOL, you’re ancestors are immigrants. They, and you shouldn’t be here. You have to go back.”

    No, I’m genetically anglo-American in part, and I’m totally committed to the ideas of that nation at the founding. I would have been fully Angl0-American like everyone else if the original settings had been maintained. You, absolutely, don’t belong in the United States.

    “Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country, to one united people. A people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religions, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manner and customs (here we see room for the mixed-white heritages, which don’t include yours lol).

    The country and the people seem to have been made for each other”.

    John Jay, First Chief Justice of the USA.

    You’re hilarious. You support the destruction of the American nation, the destruction of Christendom and subjugation of Europe, and the collapse of the American empire. You have zero Anglo-American heritage, and none of the adjacent nationalities of the founding.

    You have to go back. In fact, Scandinavia would be better off without you. You would just hasten their Islamisation. Just go straight to Liberia.

    Not just that, based on the quality of your prose and your expression you have very little to offer in terms of skills.

    It’s profoundly disgusting to hear someone with Polish background of these views.

    My mixed race is simply my burden. It has zero bearing on definitions – it’s the result of cuckservative view-points. But lol, I have anglo-American genetics. You have zero. And your views mean you are a liability for any white or Christian community.

    And what you will find out, as I found out, is that if you don’t debase yourself to the point of total depravity and cretinism you won’t be accepted by any other racial group in the United States. You will be made to pay your pound of flesh and then be repudiated anyway.

    So I don’t predict a sanguine future for you.

    “All your lies are belong to us.”

    Hahaha it’s cringe-worthy seeing you use parlance you don’t understand. You don’t know what it means. In this context it means the opposite of what you must imagine it to mean.

    It’s cringe. You must be like one of those white guys who try and use Dave Chappelle quips to pretend you’re beige too, right?

    Anyway, the historical process just needs to intertwine a little more with the economic cycles and the Jewish dialectics to which we are subject and this process will play out.

    I just saw today the first episode of the new ‘Watchmen’ by Damen Lindelof. I think it’s ridiculous depiction of Americans as part of the ‘7k’ because ‘kkk’ isn’t enough, basing them on the ‘7th cavalry’ and with amazing lines by the 5 foot 3 black heroine like ‘I can smell the bleach’ is similar to the cogency and validity of your arguments.

    Yes, every white person who supports the second amendment is ‘7K’. It’s just ridiculous.

    And I especially enjoyed this piece by Lindelof: https://www.instagram.com/p/B32X6FtlNLd/?igshid=20bgtd0j513a

    He’s a ‘true fan’ even though Alan Moore the creator didn’t want this adaptation to go ahead.

    But then we get to the crux.

    https://www.mic.com/p/watchmen-showrunner-damon-lindelof-admits-hes-still-learning-about-race-in-america-19267085

    “This seemed to be the new Cold War and there is a reckoning that should be happening. As a white man and a beneficiary of this system, do I approach this with guilt and shame or can I approach it from a vantage point of service?”

    The fellow white person schtick by these secular Jews who hate Israel is getting really old.

    Maybe a white director shuold redirect Watchmen so it takes place during world war 2 when national zionists prevented Jews from being repatriated into Europe and the West because that could threaten the Haavara agreement and the creation of Israel.

    I bet Lindelof would love that.

    Anyway I honestly am just going to leave you there. A fake Christian, a fake Republican in the sense you don’t want to preserve the Republic, and just all-around fake-right.

    Honestly, conservatives are worse then the Progressives. You are worse. At least finally now, there is going to be some kind of push-back against fake conservatives.

  330. Corvinus says:
    @Harbinger

    “Myers stated what he did because firstly, he is ignorant to history on this subject and most certainly tried to salvage what he could of his career, by essentially, prostrating himself infront of the ruling, hidden, Jewish plutocracy.”

    You were the one who cited Myers, and now you are claiming he is ignorant? The reality is that there was a Holocaust. Dispute the number if you wish, but millions of Jews died as a result. That is stone cold truth.

    “The fire bombing of Dresden and H-bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, very much the definition of holocaust…”

    No. Equating the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the Holocaust is morally dubious on your part. The atomic bombings were not part of cold, calculating, systematic program to depopulate Japan by tens of millions of people, turn the remaining inhabitants into serfs and resettle German farmers as their overlords, as was the broader goal to remake Europe, with the Holocaust serving as a linchpin. It is important to note that German nor Japanese defendants were NOT prosecuted by international military tribunals for conducting strategic bombing campaigns during World War II. In addition, strategic bombing was NOT war crime under the Hague Conventions at that juncture, whereas mass killing of civilian populations under military occupation was a defined war crime.

    “The overwhelming death tolls, of non Jews, were as a direct result of the Jewish owned (Focus Group) of Winston Churchill…”

    You mean the machinations of German leaders, specifically Adolph Hitler.

    “There is only the attempts of yourself, trying to prove me wrong…”

    You mean concerted efforts by historians who have irrefutable evidence that the Holocaust occurred. Deny at your peril.

    “This therefore leads me to simply believe that you are, infact, NOT white, but a member of the tribe and doing your utmost best to simply deny the truth in order to promote your propaganda.”

    LOL, right, because anyone who opposes your position is automatically a Jew from your eyes. How reasonable of you to affix that label. (rolling of eyes)

    The train is fine, Harbinger, the train is fine.

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  331. Harbinger says:
    @Corvinus

    This is why I didn’t want to get into a reply with you. I’ve watched your two and froing with Flint Clint and it’s tiresome, but I will, again, refute your claims, but it will be the last. You’re clearly a Jew.

    “You were the one who cited Myers, and now you are claiming he is ignorant? The reality is that there was a Holocaust. Dispute the number if you wish, but millions of Jews died as a result. That is stone cold truth.”

    I cited Myers, only in the sense that even, then, as a msm journalist, he understood the definition of holocaust. You don’t. You have agreed with the false Jewish definition of genocide, instead of the original and true – whole, burnt offerings from the Greek. Millions of Jews didn’t die. Far from it. More Jewish lies as people are beginning to find out.

    “No. Equating the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the Holocaust is morally dubious on your part. The atomic bombings were not part of cold, calculating, systematic program to depopulate Japan by tens of millions of people, turn the remaining inhabitants into serfs and resettle German farmers as their overlords, as was the broader goal to remake Europe, with the Holocaust serving as a linchpin. It is important to note that German nor Japanese defendants were NOT prosecuted by international military tribunals for conducting strategic bombing campaigns during World War II. In addition, strategic bombing was NOT war crime under the Hague Conventions at that juncture, whereas mass killing of civilian populations under military occupation was a defined war crime.”

    Yes, they very much were. The bombings were a crime and it’s madness to think otherwise. The fake holocaust narrative was deliberately created to overshadow these clear war crimes and absolve the criminals responsible for them.

    “You mean the machinations of German leaders, specifically Adolph Hitler.”

    No, Hitler was declared war upon by Britain and France, with the US later joining courtesy of deliberately provoking Japan into attacking Pearl Harbour. The allied leaders were responsible for declaring war against Germany. That’s a fact.

    “You mean concerted efforts by historians who have irrefutable evidence that the Holocaust occurred. Deny at your peril.”

    Paid shills looking for status and recognition amongst the controlled Jewish msm and academia, along with publishing. No mentions of holocaust, 6 million, persecution of Jews and gas chambers in Churchill’s, de Gaulle’s and Eisenhower’s war memorials, some 10,000 pages long. This in itself, overwhelmingly proves it never happened. It’s something of importance to not leave out, had it actually happened.

    “LOL, right, because anyone who opposes your position is automatically a Jew from your eyes. How reasonable of you to affix that label. (rolling of eyes)”

    You argue, like a Jew, because when facts are presented in front of you, you automatically deny them.
    Last reply to you. I’m not going around in circles, trying to make you see sense. Be ignorant all your life, I really couldn’t care.
    You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.
    I suggest you go off and educate yourself and remove yourself from the Jewish propaganda around you. You are utterly oblivious to common sense and reality. You still, for example, choose to ignore the definition of holocaust and use the word ‘genocide’ instead. There was no genocide of Jews. Why? Well other than everything I’ve told you, Almanacs don’t lie. World Jewish population in 1933 was 15.8 million. World Jewish population in 1948 was 15.3 million. And the overwhelming number of Jewish deaths, was as a result of allied bombing of supply lines into camps. Germans never killed Jews – the allies did and then blamed it on the Germans.

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  332. Corvinus says:
    @Harbinger

    “This is why I didn’t want to get into a reply with you. I’ve watched your two and froing with Flint Clint and it’s tiresome, but I will, again, refute your claims, but it will be the last. You’re clearly a Jew.”

    Thank you for confirming my suspicions. You are of the irrational mindset that ANYONE who dares to question your line of thinking–on a fricking blog–is Jewish. You can thank yourself for damaging beyond repair your credibility. The fact of the matter is that the Holocaust happened. How do we know beyond a shadow of a doubt? Historians, not “paid shills”, have at their disposal pre-World War II census reports, German archives and archives of other Axis countries, concentration camp records that were not destroyed by the Germans, wartime reports generated by officials responsible for implementing Nazi population policy, postwar demographic studies of population loss during the war, and post-war investigations.

    “Yes, they very much were. The bombings were a crime and it’s madness to think otherwise”.

    You have not refuted my argument. Try again.

    “No, Hitler was declared war upon by Britain and France…”

    Because Hitler invaded several peaceful nations and murdered civilians. He instigated matters. Why are denying this historical fact?

    “Germans never killed Jews – the allies did and then blamed it on the Germans.”

    Dead wrong on your part. From German soldier Oskar Groening–“This process [of selection] proceeded in a relatively orderly fashion but when it was over it was just like a fairground. There was a load of rubbish, and next to this rubbish were ill people, unable to walk, perhaps a child that had lost its mother, or perhaps during searching the train somebody had hidden — and these people were simply killed with a shot through the head. And the kind of way in which these people were treated brought me doubt and outrage. A child was simply pulled on the leg and thrown on a lorry … then when it cried like a sick chicken, they chucked it against the edge of the lorry. I couldn’t understand that an SS man would take a child and throw its head against the side of a lorry … or kill them by shooting them and then throw them on a lorry like a sack of wheat.”

    I suggest you go off and educate yourself and remove yourself from the anti-Holocaust propaganda around you. You are utterly oblivious to common sense and reality 🙂

  333. @Corvinus

    Corvie displaying the usual tribal obsession with making strident, incoherent, failed attempts to promote the long-discredited semitic canard of “muh melting pot” — a trope which originates, of course, with the notorious (and fanatical) jew nationalist Israel Zangwill:

    Decades of intensive psychiatric research have conclusively demonstrated that rootless cosmopolitans’ compulsive, repetitive, confused attempts to promote what is often referred to as the “b-b-ut muh proposition, tho!” canard typically stem from a combination of toxic semitism and virulent, unreasoning anti-White hatred.

    Sad!

  334. @Corvinus

    Don’t get so hysterical. I realize you feel compelled to blame me for both your toxic semitism and your virulent, unreasoning anti-White hatred — but your compulsion to project those sentiments onto anyone that you perceive as the Other is simply not my problem.

    Your continued pathetic failure to cite even the tiniest shred of evidence in support of your ludicrously hateful claim that ALL White goyim are somehow “morally responsible” for the absolutely, positively, 100% proven gassing of 6 trillion self-chosenites in fake shower rooms with insecticide — 80 years ago — is yet again noted.

    You do realize that it’s completely irrational to get so enraged at me simply because of your own failures, and the deep inadequacy from which they stem — don’t you?

    You clearly feel some very strong feelz about the issue of jewish civilian casualties in WW2. That’s OK by me — unlike you, I’m a very tolerant person. You have my permission to continue feeling those feelz. Does that help at all with your bvious feelings of rage, hatred, and inadequacy?

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  335. Corvinus says:
    @James Forrestal

    “Corvie displaying the usual tribal obsession with making strident, incoherent, failed attempts to promote the long-discredited semitic canard of “muh melting pot” — a trope which originates, of course, with the notorious (and fanatical) jew nationalist Israel Zangwill”

    Don’t be so hysterical. First, I’m a mix of Dutch, German, and Polish. So I’m goy, pure goy. Second, this “melting pot” was actually discussed previously by J. Hector St. John de Crevecoeur, Letters from an American Farmer (1782)–

    …whence came all these people? They are a mixture of English, Scotch, Irish, French, Dutch, Germans, and Swedes…What, then, is the American, this new man? He is either an European or the descendant of an European; hence that strange mixture of blood, which you will find in no other country. I could point out to you a family whose grandfather was an Englishman, whose wife was Dutch, whose son married a French woman, and whose present four sons have now four wives of different nations. He is an American, who, leaving behind him all his ancient prejudices and manners, receives new ones from the new mode of life he has embraced, the new government he obeys, and the new rank he holds….The Americans were once scattered all over Europe; here they are incorporated into one of the finest systems of population which has ever appeared.

    More importantly, a magazine article in 1876** used the metaphor explicitly:

    The fusing process goes on as in a blast-furnace; one generation, a single year even—transforms the English, the German, the Irish emigrant into an American. Uniform institutions, ideas, language, the influence of the majority, bring us soon to a similar complexion; the individuality of the immigrant, almost even his traits of race and religion, fuse down in the democratic alembic like chips of brass thrown into the melting pot.

    **Titus Munson Coan, “A New Country”, The Galaxy Volume 0019, Issue 4 (April 1875), p. 463

    You truly are historically ignorant.

    “Decades of intensive psychiatric research have conclusively demonstrated that rootless cosmopolitans’ compulsive, repetitive, confused attempts to promote what is often referred to as the “b-b-ut muh proposition, tho!” canard typically stem from a combination of toxic semitism and virulent, unreasoning anti-White hatred.”

    Which studies are you directly referring to? Please be specific. Otherwise, retract your statement.

    “I realize you feel compelled to blame me for both your toxic semitism and your virulent, unreasoning anti-White hatred”

    So any white person in your little world who opposes your line of thinking is automatically labeled “anti-white” or “race traitor”? Wow, just wow.

    “Your continued pathetic failure to cite even the tiniest shred of evidence in support of your ludicrously hateful claim that ALL White goyim are somehow “morally responsible” for the absolutely, positively, 100% proven gassing of 6 trillion self-chosenites in fake shower rooms with insecticide — 80 years ago — is yet again noted.”

    There have been several threads on this fine website where I chimed in on this topic. The evidence is there for people to see. Besides, there are dozens of books in libraries which discuss the Holocaust in depth. Educate yourself about this event that indeed occurred.

    “You do realize that it’s completely irrational to get so enraged at me simply because of your own failures, and the deep inadequacy from which they stem — don’t you?”

    I have to admit, projection is your strong suit.

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  336. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    All you have left here are strawman mixed in with ad hominem.

    The truth of the matter is that the profiles of identity relative to the American nation was left for future generations to decide, as indicated by the Founding Fathers. You are not “more American genetically”, either you are or you are not, according to the logic and reasoning by Vox Day, so indeed you are redefining terms for yourself. And, of course, there is no “genetic posterity” to begin with, as Mr. Krautman and my self have demonstrably shown.

    Again, are you done here?

  337. @Corvinus

    First, I’m a mix of Dutch, German, and Polish.

    That’s nice. Strident. emotionally-incontinent, anecdotal naked assertions made by anons on the interwebz are, of course, inherently unfalsifiable — as anyone with an IQ even approaching the triple digits (a category that clearly excludes the Corvster) can easily comprehend.

    But, as a very tolerant person (unlike the ignorant, hate-filled Corv), I bear no ill will toward the differently cognitively-abled. So, for the sake of argument (and in the interests of attempting to establish something approaching a level playing field) we’ll take Corvi’s inherently-unfalsifiable claim at face value. He is attempting to establish that his toxic, hate-filled semitism was not acquired “honestly” — through direct transmission via his heritage.

    OK then — did it infect what passes for his “mind” via a process of osmosis? This often occurs via excessive exposure to the noxious emissions spewed forth in sociology or ____ Studies classes. Or — more prosaically — is it a problem of passive absorption of The Narrative by way of constant teevee transmission?

    He refuses to clarify this issue, of course.

    Sad!

    The other major possibility, of course, is that Corvi’s frantic, repeated claims to identify as an “honestly self-hating white” reflect purely mercenary motives. That he believes that spewing vitriolic, unreasoning anti-white hatred will be beneficial to him personally, regardless of his in-group identity. This would not be an entirely irrational belief in a system governed by systemic semitism — merely a despicable one.

    And of course, the Corvster conspicuously fails — yet again — to make even the most feeble, pathetic attempt to justify his ignorant, hate-filled claim that all white goyim are somehow “morally responsible” for the absolutely, positively, 100% proven gassing of 5 billion officially-certified members of he Tribe of Supreme Victims in fake shower rooms at the hands of muh ebil not-sees… with insecticide. 80 years ago.

    Of course, Corv is just as concerned about the holocausting of 8 trillion Armenian, Greek, and Assyrian Christians by Donmeh Turks which occurred just a few years prior to the jewish civilian deaths in WW2 that seem to stoke his unlimited hatred and rage… right?

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  338. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    Oh, not, not this again. You peddled the same information before, and I showed clearly and convincingly that you were other than correct.

    Willie F. Page, professor of African American Studies at Brooklyn College, noted that in Dutch Brazil, the Jews operated less than 6% of the plantations.

    Seymour Drescher remarked in Immigrants And Minorities (July 1993) that Jews’ investment share in the Dutch West India Company “amounted to only 0.5 percent of the company’s capital”. Dutch historians Pieter Emmer and Johanes Postma have argued that “Jews had a very limited and subordinate roles even at the height of the Dutch slave trade in the 17th century.”

    From 1709-1807, there are 934 recorded voyages in which Rhode Island merchants were responsible for procuring 106,000 slaves. Now, Jews arrived in Newport as early as 1758. On the eve of the Revolution, they were estimated to be around thirty families. According to records historian Eli Faber used (e.g. naval office shipping lists, censuses, tax records) that identified merchants and planters as Jewish, there were 347 slave ships sent to Africa by Rhode Island slave traders from 1761-1774, with 21 being funded by Aaron Lopez, a Portuguese Jew. That means 326 voyages were underwritten by non-Jews during this time frame. Of course, Jews played a role in the peddling of human flesh. The extent in this particular case is nominal compared to other ethnic groups, according to Gaber.

    Junius Rodriguez (The Historical Encyclopedia of World Slavery, Volume 1, ABC-CLIO, 1997) referenced…

    “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves – about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South…For those Jews who did own slaves, the records demonstrate that they were not significantly different from other masters in their treatments of their bondsmen.”

    Note that the antebellum period covers the period before the Civil War, 1820-1860.

    Regardless of factual accuracy, some would argue that these numbers are meaningless since they neglect to account for any other difference in demographics besides religion. For example, poorer families were less likely to own slaves than wealthier families.

  339. Corvinus says:
    @James Forrestal

    “That’s nice. Strident. emotionally-incontinent, anecdotal naked assertions made by anons on the interwebz are, of course, inherently unfalsifiable…”

    You’re trying to act intelligent, but you are failing miserably. First, I am not offering a theory here. Rather, I am providing a fact–I am of European descent–Polish, German, and Dutch. Now, you can choose to ignore that fact, or insist that I am being other than honest. Regardless of your characterization as my ancestry being “anecdotal naked assertion”, the truth remains regarding my ethnical origins. Second, something is unfalsifiable if it cannot be proven false through measurable or repeatable means. You have yet to meet that standard. Of course, you do realize your hypocrisy, right, my white friend? You were the one who confidently asserted, without fear of being contradicted and without strong evidence or good reasons, that I am “displaying the usual tribal obsession”. It was not an observation on your part; instead, it was a churlish reaction on your part after I corrected you about the origins of “melting pot”.

    It assuredly upsets you that white men and white women are able to make their own decisions about race and culture. And, no, it is not because we have been indoctrinated by television or been exposed to “Cultural Marxism” in college. Rather, we normies arrive at those conclusions through reason and logic. You could learn a thing or two about thinking for yourself rather than be bamboozled or hoodwinked by your Alt Right overlords.

    “And of course, the Corvster conspicuously fails — yet again — to make even the most feeble, pathetic attempt to justify his ignorant, hate-filled claim that all white goyim are somehow “morally responsible””

    That would be a strawman on your part. Do you enjoy attributing to me arguments or positions that I did not directly or indirectly make? Is that your fetish?

  340. @Achilles Wannabe

    It is very important to realize that WW2 was really Anglo-WASP and Jewish capitalism snuffing fascist third position alternatives that worked and using a half million American Euro gentile lives to do it And yes, it was a conspiracy.

    I agree 100%. They saw people like Huey Long gaining traction in the US and felt that they had to snuff out any alternative political-economic system before the American people could fully swing behind it.

    We need real history taught to our young I matured with a university education which was really Hollywood and WASP Jewish WW2 propaganda. This goes right on today. We need an alternative university

    That “alternative university” is the internet; and unlike the ‘real’ universities, it’s damn-near free!

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