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I argued for “National Conservatism” in 2014, referring to a specific European tradition that puts the unity and cultural survival of the nation-state first. Put bluntly—the economy exists to serve the nation, not the nation the economy. Of course, I am appalled that the Main Stream Media has finally acknowledged “National Conservatism” at the very moment when (and probably because) it threatens to become irrelevant. Yoram Hazony’s “National Conservatism” racket is clearly gatekeeping, designed to direct nationalist energies into non-threatening dead ends. Nevertheless, the Left and its pet “conservatives” condemn even this housebroken version of National Conservatism. My current thinking: even if President Trump fails utterly, there’s no going back to Reagan-Bush “conservatism.” The only question: genuine nationalism—or separatism?

In 2014, I thought Senator Jeff Sessions, with his attacks on Big Tech (the “Masters of the Universe”), cheap labor, and mass immigration was transforming the GOP into a “National Conservative” party. Senator Sessions’ early endorsement of Donald Trump seemed the launch of a real movement. President Trump’s election after routing Conservatism Inc. dogma represented its triumph. The split between S essions and Trump was a catastrophe—by prompting this conflict, the discredited Russia Hoax actually succeeded.

Labels matter. The term “Alt Right” meant different things in 2010, 2015, 2017, and today. It remains to be seen if “National Conservatism” can be recaptured from the gatekeepers. Some of the figures at the Hazony conference could lead electorally viable national movements, notably Tucker Carlson and Senator Josh Hawley.

Yet I have my doubts. MAGA was co-opted, arguably within the first 48 hours. In Steve Bannon’s words, the “Original Sin” of the Trump Administration was to align himself with the congressional GOP agenda of tax cuts for the rich and an incoherent health care plan. National Conservatism might be dead now too.

Still, its ghost is enough to scare professional Token Conservative George Will, who attacked National Conservatism as “Elizabeth Warren Conservatism”—

Tucker Carlson says that what Senator Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) calls “economic patriotism” sounds like “Donald Trump at his best.” Carlson approves of how Warren excoriates U.S. companies’ excessive “loyalty” to shareholders. She wants the government to “act aggressively” and “intervene in markets” in order to stop “abandoning loyal American workers and hollowing out American cities.” Carlson darkly warns that this “pure old-fashioned economics” offends zealots “controlled by the banks.”

[‘National Conservatism’ Is Elizabeth Warren Conservatism, National Review, August 11, 2019]

Will claims that National Conservatives view the rural and small town working-class (“mostly white,” he warns darkly) as “victims” without agency. It’s essentially the same critique ur-cuckservative David French leveled against Tucker Carlson in his attack on “victimhood populism” conservatism [Tucker Carlson and the Question of White Victimhood, by Gregory Hood, American Renaissance, January 11, 2019].

Yet to call someone a victim doesn’t deny him agency. To say it’s being a “victim” when you fight against oppressors inverts the truth. The real problem: Americans, especially the “mostly white” conservative base, aren’t fighting hard enough.

This is also a strange argument from Will. Joe Sobran excoriated Will’s Statecraft as Soulcraft because Will energetically defended the welfare state and government power and attacked libertarianism. Sobran mocked Will’s “1964-vintage japery” like, “If conservatives do not want to use government power in behalf of their values, why do they waste their time running for office?” [From the Spectator Archives: George Will Edition, From October 1983: Joseph Sobran on George Will, by Paul Kengor,American Spectator, August 10, 2019]

But today Will says Republicans can’t use government power to defend their voters. This may seem hypocritical—even confirmation of Peter Brimelow’s hypothesis that the 78 year old Will’s stuff is now being written by 20-something interns with no institutional memory—but there’s a certain continuity in his efforts. In the more conservative America of the early 1980s, the Left was empowered most by Big Government. Now, the Left is also empowered by Woke Capital. Both times, George Will fulfilled the classic Beltway Right role: telling Republicans w hy they aren’t allowedto fight.

Nevertheless, random sloganeering about “freedom” isn’t fitting the facts on the ground. Darren Beattie recently noted that “the free market of Goldman Sachs is not the free market of the lemonade stand, and a conservative vocabulary that does not appreciate such distinctions is flat-footed and obsolete and deserves to die” [The Tyranny of Myopia, American Greatness, August 11, 2019]. The working class voters and “Market Skeptic Republicans” who turned out for Trump recognized this. A real nationalist has to offer something to people whose entire way of life is disintegrating—a process that isn’t just “happening” but is caused by specific government policies, including mass immigration.

There’s also the National Question. Is America still a nation-state—the political expression of a particular people? No commonwealth can survive without some kind of public spirit. If Will is right, we really are in just a continent-sized Mall of America. So why should anyone fight, sacrifice, or even care about it one way or the other?

As Francis Fukuyama pointed out in his 1992 The End of History and The Last Man, even liberal democracy and liberal economics themselves depend on “irrational forms” of recognition. This includes attachments to “irrational” communities not based on universalisms and “irrational” pride in democratic institutions.

I’d add this includes at least some “irrational” attachment to the symbols of those institutions—the flag, the Founders, the Constitution as the Supreme Law. These symbols, and the national identity they represent, are in jeopardy.

But is there still an American national identity left to defend? Though the MSM calls what I’m about to say either inevitable reality or terrorist propaganda depending on who is saying it, because of immigration policy Texas is being driven blue, as are Florida and Georgia. At a certain point, GOP victory becomes impossible unless the party wakes up and smells the demographic and socioeconomic coffee.

President Trump was supposed to begin that process. He wasn’t supposed to be just another Republican. MAGA wasn’t supposed to be just conservatism with bad manners. The point was a new approach to economic issues, foreign policy, and above all, immigration. We aren’t getting that.

Perhaps the problem is that the only way Trump could have really succeeded is with something akin to a government of National Reconquest [Sam Francis in His Own Words, American Renaissance, April 2005]. Illegals needed to be deported, English established as the national language, E-Verify and remittance taxes imposed, and the Wall built. None of these things happened or, probably, will happen. Timid staffing choices and placeholders who even now are selling him out for a few minutes of MSM fame have made that impracticable.

Perhaps a new Trump program may emerge out of necessity in the 2020 campaign. But it seems more likely Trump will simply call the Democrats extremists and socialists and hope Americans are scared away.

It might work. But with the Big Guns of the MSM in the hands of the Left, it’s far from certain. Maybe, as Tucker Carlson brooded in April, Trump doesn’t want to win [Fox News’ Tucker Carlson wonders aloud whether Trump actually wants to lose in 2020, The Week, April 5, 2019]. Even if Trump wins, it could be a meaningless victory in the long run, because on the current course we will just keep losing in slow motion.

Nevertheless, the powerful forces that Donald Trump awakened will remain. A new capable leader may emerge. And if one doesn’t, or the GOP blindly continues with the same old strategies, “National Conservatism” may transform into separatism, as in the 1850s.

It’s too early to give up hope. America deserves a real National Conservative movement that will fight for it. It may get it. We should try to build it. Yet there’s nothing on the immediate horizon unless Trump radically changes course or a new champion emerges.

“Will national conservatism come to the U.S.A.?” asked John Derbyshire in March 2014. “If it does, we at VDARE.com will be the first to ring the bell.”

We did in 2016. We’re ringing the bell again today.

Right now, it sounds like the tolling of a funeral bell. I still hope to tell you again that it’s a victory chime.

James Kirkpatrick [Email him |Tweet him @VDAREJamesK] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc.

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  1. s
    The stupidity of the White goyim Cuckish normietatd is astonishing. ARSEs abusing the NTs worse than a JF cuffin’ SCP’s cash. Almost as bad as K-Lo is beaten if he suggests that maybe a Normal White Man should have his views accounted for at Cabal.

    Tacky chav deoderant brand stynx presumably has as it’s main customers White Men. Yet a van of badass dindu heroes are shown as badass dindu heroes lording it over some fat ugly northern soul type retard. He dances terribly, is cringingly excited about scoring a goal (implying immaturity & inexperience & is starstruck by the TWers in the van).

    Ofc can’t tell for sure he’s a northern soul twat BC our rat-faced hooknoses, swarthy Hampstead ARSEs would never actually give a White Man a speaking part!!! But just his naff, outdated worshiping of anachronistic icky afro muzik from a century ago & general gormless look suggest northern twat!

    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
  2. I understand Congress is in charge, and Trump had no power to limit the MIC to what the classically right position of ‘a government providing security’ should aim for, but outside of this, he should have not acted the coward and sunk the whole damn cesspit, with all the risk to himself included. That would have been a leader. What we have now is an unpolished Obama, whose moves are just that little bit more see-through.

  3. Not enough Whites = no nationalism of any kind.

    Shlomo Celler planned this way back in ’65, and C(o)unt kalergi before him.

  4. anon[396] • Disclaimer says:

    Genuine American nationalism would require re-conquering the beachheads and strategic port areas now held by Fake Americans, i.e., the “Clinton Archipelago.”

    Seperatism is merely capitulation to the Occupation of America’s beachheads and strategic ports by Fake Americans.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  5. There’s also the National Question. Is America still a nation-state—the political expression of a particular people? No commonwealth can survive without some kind of public spirit. If Will is right, we really are in just a continent-sized Mall of America. So why should anyone fight, sacrifice, or even care about it one way or the other?

    There’s also the JEW QUESTION.

    Jews form a nation within a nation everywhere they reside. Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside when they are genetically and culturally predisposed to put the interests of the Jew Nation over and above the interests of the larger nations in which they reside?

    Can you trust a Jew mug not to do what they did to the Spaniards by colluding and collaborating with Muslim invaders who enslaved the Spaniards with the help of the Jew Nation?

    Jews in Israel do not allow Israel to be flooded with foreigners. Diasporan Jews are screaming bloody murder about European Christian nations keeping the mass immigration floodgates open.

    Somethings got to give.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is pushing mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION.

    The JEW portion of the JEW/WASP ruling class is doing everything in its power to flood more foreigners into the United States. The JEW portion of the JEW/WASP ruling class does not push Israel to open the mass immigration floodgates. HYPOCRISY!

    Trump is a complete and total politician whore for JEW billionaire Shelly Adelson. Shelly Adelson has demanded that the USA be flooded with mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration, and Trump and the Republican Party politician whores are doing the bidding of Shelly Adelson on immigration.

    Trump has done nothing to deport the upwards of 30 million illegal alien invader infiltrators in the USA. Israel does not allow illegal alien invader infiltrators to remain in Israel. The hardscrabble South Tel Aviv Jews were flooded with illegal alien invader infiltrators at one time and they called for the government of Israel to remove them. They did. White Core Americans — or the so-called “deplorables” — are the same thing as the hardscrabble Jews in S. Tel Aviv except that Trump and the other politicians in Swamp City DC ignore White Core Americans.

    Trump now sides with billionaire Jew donor Shelly Adelson against the best interests of White Core America and the USA as a whole.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
    , @jack daniels
  6. nsa says:

    Cuckservative vs cucknationalist vs cuckpopulist vs neocuck arguments are dated and irrelevant. The USA is now an ethnic cesspool with loyalty only to one’s family and racial group…….except the jew dominated whites who can’t even figure out what is in their own self-interest. The only real question for whites is how to cast off the jew and then close ranks. Anyone think this will happen any time soon?

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Irish Savant
  7. Separation.

    And after that, we can plan to re-take some of the coasts and the Southern border.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  8. Sparkon says:

    The split between S essions and Trump was a catastrophe….Both times, George Will fulfilled the classic Beltway Right role: telling Republicans w hy they aren’t allowedto fight.

    Ugh. Needs proofing. Additionally, too many hot links in that typographically oversized blue text makes this article a hard-to-read eyesore. For best legibility, the hot links at UR should be in the same font, i.e. the same size as the standard text.

    But this:

    My current thinking: even if President Trump fails utterly, there’s no going back to Reagan-Bush “conservatism.” The only question: genuine nationalism—or separatism?

    Well, we can’t go back to Reagan-Bush conservatism because Reagan emptied out our bank account with “Voodoo Economics,” tripled the national debt, and sent much U.S. industry offshore on a fast boat to China. Those two guys wrecked America. I don’t know why anyone would want any repeat of the Reagan-Bush years, which is the period when the country really went down the tubes, and not just financially.

    But with the Big Guns of the MSM in the hands of the Left,

    The MSM would not be a constant and reliable champion of U.S. wars of aggression were it really in the hands of the Left.

  9. Gordo says:

    The only question: genuine nationalism—or separatism?

    Separatism.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  10. A good article by a good man. The “take away” and natural deduction is that Indo-Europeans must sequester/secede and form their own republics that are self governing ethno-states.

    This is gaining traction and momentum. Amen, Vdare, The Occidental Observer writers and commenters are calling for this as the sole hope and solution. Toward that goal, “White Nationalism” must start to become de-toxified and become a neutral word that simply describes the aspiration of a People that are subject to “taxation without representation”, and used as a foil and dormant by all the “Protected Groups.

    I have written on this over several journals, most recently The Occidental Observer in the last 5 or some articles.

  11. @Charles Pewitt

    All true, and restated for the 15,000th time. We need to shift to PLANNING AND ACTION.

    • Agree: Counterinsurgency
  12. @Gordo

    BOTH. They are not inherently or generically bi-polar. There is ZERO chance for Indo-Europeans to gain ANY more control over institutions, laws, events than what exists as present. In fact, with each increment of passing time, our position and potential for SURVIVAL decreases, if we stay within the present governmental structures.

    America is dead, the America of the Constitution, the Ideal, and the Conception. Face it. Admit it.
    It is only a geographic area on a map. All the constants and parts that made it a functioning entity were put in a blender. The result is a brownish, bitter tasting, gooey slop that is sickening to look and smell.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @peterAUS
  13. At least Trump is starting a national conversation over NATO. This may be the biggest foreign threat we face, and we’re leading the damn thing. I can see a future candidate for president running primarily on exiting NATO.

  14. The only viable option for the HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS MAJORITY…..

    is

    WORKING CLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN RACIAL PATRIOTISM!!!

    Why should Iran and China be allowed to lay claim to the Technological Infrastructure….Military Infrastructure…..Agricultural land……LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE of California….?

    Force and Violence was used to expel THE NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS from California……

    Secession and Seperation means that the regions of the US where the Native Born White American Working Class lives…is going to fell a hell of lot more crowded…..especially if the White Working Class decides to increase its fertility…

    A White Ethno State means being surrounded by China and Iran….At times I feel like Richard Spencer is working for the other side….I say this as someone who is not a conspiracy theorist….

    FUCK THE WHITE ETHNOSTATE…We want all of America back….America doesn’t belong to the Gooks living in China…

    • Agree: bruce county
  15. @Poupon Marx

    America is dead, the America of the Constitution, the Ideal, and the Conception. Face it. Admit it.
    It is only a geographic area on a map. All the constants and parts that made it a functioning entity were put in a blender. The result is a brownish, bitter tasting, gooey slop that is sickening to look and smell.

    You’re supposed to shut up and enjoy your world turning into a cup of coffee with a hint of cream. Problem is that the coffee started out very dark and bitter, and there just ain’t enough sugar to make it palatable.

    In 2014, I thought Senator Jeff Sessions, with his attacks on Big Tech (the “Masters of the Universe”), cheap labor, and mass immigration was transforming the GOP into a “National Conservative” party. Senator Sessions’ early endorsement of Donald Trump seemed the launch of a real movement. President Trump’s election after routing Conservatism Inc. dogma represented its triumph. The split between Sessions and Trump was a catastrophe ….

    Sessions going dark after becoming AG was always puzzling, but in retrospect one wonders if Epstein had the goods on him.

    • Replies: @Anon
  16. White Ethnostate=BEING SURROUNDED BY GREATER CHINA……

    And the China Gooks for the past ten years have been making plans to create a CHINESE ONLY COLONY in Montanna…..

    The threat of China is Chinese Legal Immigrants….The threat of Iran is Iranian Legal Immigrants…….and Trump is enthusiastically allowing them into America…..as did the Hollywood HOMOSEXUAL PEDERAST RONALD REAGAN……

  17. I don’t believe a single commenter on this page has any idea what they are talking about…

    To begin with Reagan-Bush were not true conservatives in any respect of the word. However, to be fair, I would give Ronald Reagan some credit with his handling of the Soviet Union.

    Nonetheless, true Conservatism has never existed in the United States with the exception of the antebellum South, which was destroyed by the War for Southern Independence. Yet, even a return to this more substantial Conservatism cannot answer the many questions that have been posed by the US society in the past 50 years.

    For example, how would anyone plan a health care program that would be state oriented and equitable to all? You have seen what a business based approach to health care has wrought with the aberration that US doctors today are for the most part businessmen practicing medicine and not doctors that are interested in practicing a complex craft.

    Though socialistic medicine based upon government programs have shown to be far and away superior to anything the United States has developed, to even consider such an endeavor in the United States sends shivers down the spines of self-described Conservatives since there is no respect for the concept, though all forms of equitable governance is socialist by nature in that a government entity whether state or federal is supposed to serve the interests of all. If that is the case, why is it that conservatives balk at a form of equitable socialized medicine? No profit in it?

    No, writing essays about actual Conservatism will not get anyone any closer to its realization since so few have any idea as to a how a Conservative state would behave.

    So far what I have seen here is nothing more than racial prioritization for White People leaving out the changing dynamics that have seriously affected the United States as a result of supposed Conservative Forces where companies outsourced our manufacturing sectors and our technology sectors. So no good has come from this form of Conservatism for the majority of Americans.

    And it is not the “Jew Question” but the “Jewish Question”!

    The person who complained about this issue literally has his head up his backdoor. Though it is true that there is a segment of the American Jewish Community that is far more loyal to Israeli interests than those of the US, it is becoming well documented that this segment is the area of Jewish Elites and leadership, not the average person of the Jewish faith who simply wants to get through the day like everyone else. And as it has become just as well documented, younger Jewish Americans are increasingly tiring of Israel’s constant demanding of them that they remain loyal to Israel and her history, which has been a serious issue for many Jews for many years.

    You grow up with such indoctrination and see how easy it is for you to break such bonds before making such sweeping generalizations about all Jews.

    You want to read about actual Conservatism, I suggest you read some of the excellent articles on southern history at the Abbeville Institute. However, they will pose as many questions as they may answer.

    Will your brand of true Conservatism then include a return to slavery in the US, which by the way was not just a southern phenomenon but a northern one as well?

  18. Ahhh, the homogeneity of western ethnicity predicated on whiteness,

    by the map

    https://mapofeurope.com/

    by white love fests throughout European history

    https://www.thoughtco.com/european-wars-and-battles-4133312

  19. In China….The Chinese say:CHINA FOR THE CHINESE PEOPLE!!!

    GOD BLESS THE NAZI CHINESE PEOPLE!!!!

  20. If the Chinese in China had 50 years of Hindu LEGAL IMMIGRANTS imposed upon them….What would the Chinese in China do?

    Answer:There is 0 probability that there would be 50 years of millions of Hindu LEGAL IMMIGRANTS comming to China……for the Chinese in China would have ended Hindu LEGAL IMMIGRATION to China in around three weeks at most…..

    GOD BLESS THE NAZI CHINESE PEOPLE IN CHINA FOR BEING NAZI!!!

  21. The Koreans in South Korea say:SOUTH KOREA FOR THE KOREANS ONLY!!!

    God Bless the South Korean NAZI PEOPLE!!!!

  22. JWO says:

    The minute someone with a name like “Yoram Hazony” is chairing a “National Conservatism” conference you know it’s been hijacked.

    The same group of people are now dominating both sides of the debate, agreeing to agree on the two most important issue: foreign wars and immigration. The rest of us get to watch from the sideline.

    So I agree, it is no longer left or right, it is now globalism vs. nationalism.

  23. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    “Sessions going dark after becoming AG was always puzzling, but in retrospect one wonders if Epstein had the goods on him.”
    Looks like Epstein had the goods on everybody; and now he’s dead.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  24. @JWO

    So I agree, it is no longer left or right, it is now globalism vs. nationalism.

    I say GLOBALISM vs PATRIOTISM

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is pushing GLOBALISM.

    The European Christian ancestral core of the USA is fighting to restore PATRIOTISM.

    White Core America Rising!

    Tweet from 2015:

  25. JWO says:

    Nevertheless, the powerful forces that Donald Trump awakened will remain. A new capable leader may emerge.

    His name is Kris Kobach, and Trump is doing his best to keep him down by not letting him run DHS.

  26. National Conservatism yes. But not for the country commonly referred to as America. That country died of terminal corruption. You can’t turn a pickle back into a cucumber. There is no such thing as a living document. The Constitution is dead.

    National Conservatism for the New Republic to be built upon the red sea that surrounds the blue archipelago. The Deplorables are ready and able to build it. We only lack leadership.

    Let the coalition of the fringes have the cities including the District of Corruption. Let them be free of us at last.

    STOP THE HATE
    SEPARATE

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  27. Agent76 says:

    July 29, 2019 Ike’s Warning About America’s Threat to World Peace: The 15 Biggest Pentagon Contractors that Make Up the Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex

    Out-of-Control Military Spending Since Eisenhower’s Presidency May be the Primary Reason Why the US National Debt is $23,000,000,000,000 (23 trillion) and Counting.

    https://www.transcend.org/tms/2019/07/ikes-warning-about-americas-threat-to-world-peace-the-15-biggest-pentagon-contractors-that-make-up-the-military-industrial-congressional-complex/

    “If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it.” Mark Twain

    Aug 24, 2016 If Voting Made Any Difference, They Wouldn’t Let Us Do It

    Don’t be fooled into thinking that the only road to reform is through the ballot box. Whether you vote or don’t vote doesn’t really matter. What matters is what else you’re doing to push back against government incompetence, abuse, corruption, graft, fraud and cronyism.

  28. If a white politician dared to say that whites wil be treated like all other races and that he would work to eliminate race-based preferences and then he wen t on to talk about what it is whites desired, head wipe the floor with the commie-socialists-freaks

  29. bt says:

    Cheer up!

    VDARE articles are being sent out to workers from deep within the DOJ.

    Your years of silent toil will be rewarded soon, I predict. Trump has done it again!

    The sunlight will reveal your views fully, it’s bound to be a positive development for America.

  30. @nsa

    “Anyone think this will happen anytime soon?”

    Sadly, no.

  31. @Sparkon

    “The MSM would not be a constant and reliable champion of US wars of aggression were it really in the hands of the Left.”

    Sparkon, you make an excellent observation about who controls the media, a point which I often forget, at least until MSNBC cheers when Trump’s “beautiful bombs” start exploding into Syria over yet another manufactured hoax. If Big Media was really on the left, it would not be doing everything within its power to drum “Assad apologist” Tulsi Gabbard out of the race.

  32. peterAUS says:
    @Poupon Marx

    We need to shift to PLANNING AND ACTION.

    Yep.

    You are probably aware that’s ………a very challenging…..thing.VERY.

    Let’s try to be positive: any ideas as to how to start that process?

  33. @Bragadocious

    Probably a third of all adult “Americans” don’t know what NATO is. Not joking.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  34. Yes, I do. Detailed over at The Occidental Observer. Maybe I’ll copy and paste.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  35. @Steve Naidamast

    Wow. Totally underwhelming. You negate everything and everyone here, and then you end up your act with a QUESTION? I think you should read before you write, think before you speak, and walk before you run.

  36. There a question about Trump’s electoral intentions that Tucker’s question BEGS: Did
    Trump actually intend to win in 16?

    I think not. Virtually all the polls, pundits and prophets said he’d lose. He believed them Otherwise he wouldn’t have run. I think his candidacy was always just an excuse to parade his narcissism in front of millions, build up a TV base and then retire to his own political TV show on Fox. He could have gone on for a decade pretending to have been the man on the white horse who could have saved us from Clinton’s neo liberal denationalization. This “original sin” stuff is nonsense. There never was a Trumpian Garden of Eden. The Snake has run the show from the beginning. This why Trump defaulted into GOP neo liberal denationalization right out of the gate. This man believes in nothing but the Trump Show. Never has. He is the loony logical extension of American individualism – the predisposition that has lost white people our country to the coloreds and the Jews. Is the fact that so many of us fell for his act and are still trying to resuscitate belief in him, proof that we still believe in gonzo individualism too?

    But by now Trump should have taught us a lesson that National Conservatives like Kirpatrick better learn fast. It is time to think White, to think Gentile

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  37. English established as the national language

    English is already established as the national language. It’s just not the official language.

    Passing such a law would backfire. Wherever you see an official language, you see more than one.

    What we need is to increase the percentage of people with English as their mother tongue. The 1921/24 immigration acts did that by default. So would just closing the borders.

    English has been official in Canada for centuries. What good has it done them?

  38. Hossein says:

    What national conservatism? This must be a joke.
    Almost 80 million Christian fundamentalists that are the majority of this “conservative white block” have sold their souls to the Zionists so they can spare a place in heaven for themselves.
    How can anyone in his right mind consider parasites like John hagee and Pat Robertson and the drunk Franklin Graham as “Conservatives”.

    Total madness.

    The white Goyim is losing it.

  39. @Steve Naidamast

    Nonetheless, true Conservatism has never existed in the United States with the exception of the antebellum South

    If flooding your territory with African primitives is “Conservatism”, then I’m a reactionary. That was the most radical thing we’ve done in 400 years here. Why defend it?

    Besides, anything that begins with a capital letter, or ends with -ism, is anything but conservative.

  40. MarkinLA says:
    @Sparkon

    and sent much U.S. industry offshore on a fast boat to China.

    Slight correction – they weren’t sent to China until Clinton. The goal of Reagan and Bush was to send them to Mexico.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  41. MarkinLA says:
    @Steve Naidamast

    Though socialistic medicine based upon government programs have shown to be far and away superior to anything the United States has developed,

    That is debatable. EVERY system has it’s problems. It can be not enough doctors to see patients in a timely manner as in Great Britain or it can be poorly paid doctors and hospitals like in Japan. The US has been a huge technological leader in medical science for years and that comes at a cost. I doubt there is the necessary research money available if medicine has to depend completely on government funding.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  42. @RadicalCenter

    Radical Center: You have an Asian wife and offspring. They will go to Asia. I’m sure you will join them.

    • Replies: @Sunshine
    , @RadicalCenter
  43. @Anon

    Looks like Epstein had the goods on everybody; and now he’s dead.

    If he was he only one with the information, the result will be considerable jocking for position in the network of people he controlled. That may be part of what we’re seeing.

    If he represented an organization that is the sole holder of this, information, things continue as they were, except that everybody in a “position of power” now has considerably less legitimacy.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  44. @JWO

    The minute someone with a name like “Yoram Hazony” is chairing a “National Conservatism” conference you know it’s been hijacked.

    They can call themselves the Easter Bunnies if they want, and dress up in bunny costumes and hop around chanting “Us!, Us! Us!”. What I remember is the National Review condemning the whites rendered jobless when US industry became the Rust Belt, and even such a stupid show as dressing up, hopping, and chanting wouldn’t make me forget that.
    Rule of thumb: I don’t have any friends who want me dead.

    Counterinsurgency

  45. “Timid staffing choices and placeholders who even now are selling him out for a few minutes of MSM fame have made that impracticable.”

    I didn’t see Trump making timid staffing choices. It looked more to me as though he was boldly grabbing up every bankster and deep state neocon he could find. Also, in my view, these snakes are selling him out because that is the job they accepted before Trump hired them.

    A small quibble there.

  46. @Bragadocious

    The biggest foreign(and domestic)threat we face is that little shit stain in the middle east that sports a “Star of David”.

  47. @Agent76

    What’s going to matter is what happens when the urban centers need support from their hinterland and the support does not materialize. Consider that when New Orleans flooded, the political balance in Louisiana changed dramatically.
    And this was even with support from the hinterlands. The depopulation of New Orleans was orchestrated by the bureaucracy that ran the city, followed by the FEMA bureaucracy.
    Look for that to happen on a much larger scale in some future time (I won’t construct plausible scenarios).
    Sudden change happened several times in the USSR:
    a) Stalin becomes de facto chief of state. The Old Bolsheviks are killed, and with them their dream of extending the Russian Revolution throughout the West. Lenin’s plan to impose a Soviet form of government in each country is implemented by Stalin, and Russia becomes a vast factory of war goods.
    b) Stalin dies after killing all the old Bolsheviks. Jewish influence in Russia is greatly reduced. Russian leadership continues preparing for WW II. Russia remains a vast factory of largely WWII goods out of sheer inertia and not knowing what else to do.
    c) Preparations for WW II in Europe (with some WW III add-ons, like ICBMS) stop; the USSR ends, but the vast unproductive war plant complex remains.

    Same with China: Mao wins over KMT, Mao tries to institute the Marxist dream of a country intelligently controlled and planned (not possible, even in theory), Mao is repudiated by his “glorious be become rich” successor.

    Things can change rather quickly. Hypothetically, what _could_ be done if the cities vanished tomorrow? Nobody seems to know. The usual answer is “they won’t”, which dodges the question. But not knowing what to do if you were handed supremacy tomorrow means you don’t know what you’re fighting for today.

    Counterinsurgency

  48. @Counterinsurgency

    The intelligence communities would not be dumb enough to rely on just one blackmail honeypot.

    There are other Epsteins we don’t know about–count on it.

  49. @Sparkon

    ” I don’t know why anyone would want any repeat of the Reagan-Bush years, which is the period when the country really went down the tubes, and not just financially.”

    Strongly agree. Before those two, what average Americans had was mostly kept no matter who was president. By that I mean family ties, rights to property, and a real sense of being able to do business without every level of government trying to control or rob us.

    Government really grew out of control during that period, and people who tried to push back were killed in a very public way. Since then it has gotten worse no matter who is president and what Americans have managed to keep is being taken, one way or the other.

    The dominant media is in the hands of people who, more and more openly control the government. Left and right are just words that have no real meaning anymore.

    • Agree: Counterinsurgency
  50. @anon

    Sun Tsu;

    All warfare is based on deception.

    #The truth of this pithy and profound saying will be admitted by every soldier. Col. Henderson tells us that Wellington, great in so many military qualities, was especially distinguished by “the extraordinary skill with which he concealed his movements and deceived both friend and foe.”

    What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease.

    #The last half is literally “one who, conquering, excels in easy conquering.” Mei Yao-ch`en says: “He who only sees the obvious, wins his battles with difficulty; he who looks below the surface of things, wins with ease.”

  51. Western cuck males delenda est.

    James Kirkpatirck is a cucked Western male who writes for VDare – a Jew-controlled website. National conservatism is an oxymoron. Future separatism? To where? At the end, he quotes the dengerate John Derbyshire. Derbyshire has an anti-white Chinese family and has written that Asians are smarter than whites.

    We need Western nationalist parties. The West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. Repatriation/segregation will be the platforms.

    Fitzpatrick scribbled about future separatism. This reveals his incredible stupidity. Majority white areas are going to form nations within the USA? We are still a majority white nation and cucks refuse to defend the southern border against low-IQ, low-caste mestizos. Vox Day has been babbling about separatism and thinks the USA will start breaking up in 2030. Madness!!! There are no areas left in the world to run to. We have a country – the United States of America. Blacks will get their own state in the south. Jews will go to Israel. Asians will go to Asia. Illegals from Latin America will be sent back.

    It is time to start planning the Reconquista.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  52. @Agent76

    “If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it.” Mark Twain

    I doubt that it was Mark Twain who wrote that. I first read that in the early ’90s before my internet days began in ’95 and it was always attributed to Red Emma Goldman, though her version was more along the lines that if things could be changed by voting, it would be illegal.

    • Replies: @Agent76
  53. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    We all know it isn’t going to happen they have been shoveling whites into multi-racial families for decades now, just so you can’t do anything about any of them because your children are black and/or jew, mexican, asian whatever, gay, trans. All those Army guys, white patriots, so messed up in the end, the militias, just wanting to protect their country. The DEA, ATF, FBI didn’t have to pay them, they could just use them because they loved their country and wanted the best for their children. The Army used them but I wasn’t in the Army it’s ok, but they use people. Whites with conviction. I was in the service, although I’m a white woman, I was treated no different than say Timothy McVeigh. I was outspoken against homosexuality in the service, I was also labeled a racist. There was nothing I could do in my time in service that would ever change my future, not even getting out. The black mafia in the services does everything it can against all white people. They do everything they can to ruin whites even women who don’t suck up to black extortion. I was accused of being racist because….but then when I happened to show up at black party to say goodbye to co-worker then she says”I thought you were racist, but you were the only white person to show up” at her all black party”,

    • Replies: @anon
  54. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    It kicked out the last part. In the service I scored a 71 on my first class exam, and all I could do was put the chevrons on. but wasn’t paid for it due to my low overall score. I just barely made it and wasn’t paid for six months. That’s 71 out of 80.

  55. Corvinus says:

    “My current thinking: even if President Trump fails utterly, there’s no going back to Reagan-Bush “conservatism.””

    That would be your opinion, Mr. Kirkpatrick.

    “The only question: genuine nationalism—or separatism?”

    There is no such thing as “genuine nationalism”. It’s “nationalism”.

    “President Trump’s election after routing Conservatism Inc. dogma represented its triumph.”

    Shitlery won the popular vote. Moreover, it wasn’t a “route”, it was an F-U by the general public toward the establishment left and right. Those voters are realizing their catastrophic error.

    “the discredited Russia Hoax actually succeeded.”

    It’s not discredited in the least. Over a dozen investigations were spawned as a result of Mueller’s investigation.

    “Illegals needed to be deported, English established as the national language, E-Verify and remittance taxes imposed, and the Wall built.”

    According to some people. It may happen, it may not happen.

    “Is America still a nation-state—the political expression of a particular people?”

    YES.

    “Separatism”.

    I would say no.

  56. Corvinus says:
    @Dr ExCathedra

    “Separation. And after that, we can plan to re-take some of the coasts and the Southern border.”

    I venture to say that is just armchair warrior talk on your part.

  57. Can’t wait for James Kirkpatrick’s forthcoming book, Conservatism Inc., due out soon from Arktos:

    https://arktos.com/upcoming-titles/

  58. Sparkon says:
    @MarkinLA

    Good point. Let me try again:

    Pres. Reagan sent much U.S. industry industrial technology offshore on a fast boat to China.

    China imported huge quantities of technology during the 1980s. Machinery and transport equipment import increased from U.S. $2.03 billion in 1978 to an annual average of U.S. $5.08 [billion] during 1980-94 and an annual average of $16.51 [billion] during 1985-89. Between 1980 and 1989, roughly one-third of China’s rapidly expanding import (or about U.S. $116 during the decade) consisted of machinery, transport equipment, testing instruments and apparatus, and photo and optical equipment.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/2761229.pdf?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents


    Deng Xiaoping holding hands with Nancy Reagan, and Ronald Reagan, in Beijing, in 1984. Photo: AP

    In 1984, Pres. Reagan went to Beijing, Deng Xiaoping held Nancy’s hand, and a deal was finalized enabling China to buy American-built nuclear reactors for $20 billion.

    In his turn, Pres. Clinton intensified the transfer of high technology to China, including computers, electronic equipment, and rocket science missile expertise.

    By 1995, the U.S. came into possession of an official PRC document containing design information for all seven U.S. nuclear warheads.

    On May 25, [1999] the United States House of Representatives released the unanimously agreed upon Cox Report (AKA Report of the Select Committee on U.S. National Security and Military/Commercial Concerns with the People’s Republic of China) which detailed publicly for the first time China’s espionage campaign against the United States. The report was a redacted version of a still-classified report completed almost five months previously. President Clinton and his CIA determined 30 percent of the original report could not be released to the public.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Cox_Report_controversy

    Clinton managed to dance out of the so-called Chinagate 1996 campaign financing controversy when Attorney General Janet Reno refused calls to appoint a special prosecutor in late 1997.

    &c

  59. @Corvinus

    I venture to say that is just armchair warrior talk on your part.

    A separation into the enclaves of Hillary electing districts (coastal, ethnic regions) would not be economically viable. The interior would have to ship through the coastal ports. The coastal ports would have to use resources (power, water) from the interior. The coastal regions would continue to recruit foreign allies (previous example: de-facto alliance with N. Vietnam during the Vietnam War era, alliance now with Latin American countries wishing to depose of troublesome population), this time as allies in taking back the hinterland they need to survive. The interior regions would tire of having to trade through hostile territory. The current slogans would be used, a generation or so after the split, to justify warfare of various sorts.

    No. Just no.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  60. Jason Liu says:

    Yoram Hazony’s ideas amount to turning the clock back a few decades, just dressed up in different words. It didn’t work before and it won’t work now. A new nationalist ideology will have to include ways of dismantling the current system, persecuting the left, etc. Anything else is a fantasy.

  61. @Sparkon

    If you voted for the HOLLYWOOD HOMOSEXUAL PEDERAST RONALD REAGAN…

    You voted for the Chinese and Iranian Colonization of California….over one million Iranian “Americans” now in California…….

    George Will is a Turd…..

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @Sparkon
  62. Just a gentle reminder:

    The National Review=THE NATIONAL HOMOSEXUAL PEDERAST REVIEW…..

  63. DanFromCT says:
    @Corvinus

    Armchair generals can stay on Internet, but rednecks behind the wheel of America’s trucks will blockade or refuse loads into the sanctuary cities in a flash reaction to violence against whites. The military, cops, and UN’s “peacekeeper” goons will be overwhelmed trying to restore order in those cities. Tourist revenues evaporate overnight. Let the Dems’ homicidal coalition of white-hating racists keep the water, electricity, and sewage plants running in their neighborhoods if they can. Those who own the DNC and msm, obviously, are the real force behind the coming Euro-white genocide yet Conservatism Inc is silent. Faggots like Will and the rest of the pencil-necked emasculati of Conservatism Inc tell us more of the politics that have brought us to this point is the solution. Josh and Tucker believe meeting evil halfway is the solution from what I can tell.

    Nothing, however, more dramatic than more false flag public theater will happen on the current trajectory of America’s absorption into unaccountable global compliance regimes, because, as James Kilpatrick points out, the Republicans function as footstools of ur-globalist Woke Capitalism that’s now funding the Left. America can go up in smoke, but Dems and Republicans alike pledge their first loyalty is to Israel and they do it every day. Fox News and its mirror image at CNN insult white men with the now ubiquitous news format of yenta kaffeeklatsches featuring some male J. Alfred Prurocks chattering on about anti-Semitism like its the biggest problem facing a dying America. Plus we still get whores like Sean Hannity disgracefully betraying his country every day recruiting young Americans to die or be maimed as “heroes in uniform” so good Israeli boys need not.

  64. @War for Blair Mountain

    “George Will is a Turd…..”

    You are entirely too kind. 😉

  65. peterAUS says:
    @Poupon Marx

    Curious.

    Has it occurred to you that, as soon as you move from “blabbing” into “PLANNING”, the game totally changes? Totally.
    I am sure that most people reading all this, and all material on this and similar sites, are aware of that hard fact.

    In practical terms, you can “explain”, “educate”, “debate”, ad nauseam, about anything. Holocaust tm appears to be the favorite. As long as you don’t advertise who you are “they” will leave you alone.

    BUT, as soon as you start, actually, planning to do something, I am sure you’ll be put on a proper watch list. Planning something as a secession definitely will. Seriously working on it, that is.
    That’s, IMHO, the reason we can’t see anything of value anywhere in public, at the moment.
    Risk/reward thing.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
    , @WorkingClass
  66. reminder none of this will happen and jews and their fully controlled and led satanic cults of official satanism and freemasonry remain thoroughly in power

  67. @attilathehen

    These Britishers at V-Dare and many other internet sites considered to be for white people, are flailing around because they’re in denial of the simple cause of their troubles.

    They are in deep denial over their own complicity with the destroyers of white nations. They see the UK as some kind of beacon to follow, ignoring it is already destroyed as a racial-national entity. They look the other way (denial) and transfer their attention to the USA, but with the same blindness toward the necessity of recognizing that the German Adolf Hitler was right and had the right combination for white Europe and white nations wherever they are in the world.

    Why this continuing denunciation of Hitler? Because of Poland ?? Or Russia? Pulease. Time to wise up on those scores, folks.

    The National Socialist-Holohoax-Hitler demonization that Britain, and to a lesser degree America, still vigorously engage in is what holds back Europeans and European-derived nations around the world from asserting their will against the always encroaching Internationalist-Globalist-one world multiracial government systems. European peoples remain helpless against these as long as they are vigorously pushed by Britain, who made a pact with the devil-Jews against their racial cousins, the Germans, a long time ago and still refuse to admit it and lift it.

    “James Kirkpatrick”, speaking for Vdare as a whole, comes up with National Conservatism, as though it’s new and original. He ends by quoting VDARE’s resident German-hater John Derbyshire:

    “Will national conservatism come to the U.S.A.?” asked John Derbyshire in March 2014. “If it does, we at VDARE.com will be the first to ring the bell.”

    And these guys think they are leading the way? European peoples have to agree on our history before we can move forward. This means WWI and WWII especially. British loyalists like the ones who run and contribute to VDARE, are standing in the way of that.

  68. Well now. It happens that Blacks and Browns do the same thing, frequently, and as members of “representative” governments. Many, many times we hear of Blacks and Browns demanding ethnic and racial “purity” of their neighborhoods, which is saying they want self-determination and integral control. But when “Whites” say the same thing, then it is the equivalent of terrorism.

    Then this is the obvious: we will die certainly if we do nothing, but we have a chance to survive if we DO aka ACT. BTW, I have been banned from several sites, such as Breitbark, FrontPage, WND, and for a time, Amren (now reinstated but my comments are frequently deleted). And, SO SAD TO SAY, I am getting the Sucura web blocking on The Occidental Observer.

    It’s all very tiresome. There are people who are secure financially and emotionally, that could do a LOT MORE, but somehow the reality their brainwashed children will be ashamed of them, or their neighbors will shun them, or even their very own family. There are many patriotic billionaires, who could do a lot more, but the Jewniverse and JewSA makes them tremble.

    I realized a while back that at least 50% of all Whites are Shabbos servant henchmen, deranged, mentally disturbed, lobotomized zombies, or actively seeking to destroy their own people. Count White college students among the latter.

    And that is all I will say at this time on the matter.

  69. Corvinus says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    You doubled down on armchair warrior talk. Praytell, is Rambo your hero?

  70. @Carolyn Yeager

    Ja, ja, Carolyn. We wish we could all be as racially pure as you, being that your forebears come from the center of the concentric circles that emanate from the locus of all circles-loci-from Deutschland.
    You are to Adolf Hitler what Dilma Rouseff and Michelle Bachelet were to Fidel Castro. These two lesbian communist totally worshipped Fidel as a demigod. He occupied an entire hemisphere of their cranial cavity. They both, little red hens, were taken in by Daddy Fidelio as young communist students and learned the tricks of how to destroy nations, peoples, and the World.

    Uncle Adolf started out well, but after a flush and blush of success, the became toxic and then poison to the German people. He was manipulated by International Jewry. Cue bono, Carolyn, for his blundering, delusions, tawdry and shallow mysticism and separation from Reality?

    You are in need of an ANTI-HYPNOTIST to bring you back to an even keel. And pump your bilges, the water is dank and rank.

  71. Corvinus says:
    @DanFromCT

    “but rednecks behind the wheel of America’s trucks will blockade or refuse loads into the sanctuary cities in a flash reaction to violence against whites.”

    Are you having a flashback to your favorite movie “Breaker! Breaker!” starring Chuck Norris? Where is this group NOW?

    “The military, cops, and UN’s “peacekeeper” goons will be overwhelmed trying to restore order in those cities.”

    So who is causing this mischief and mayhem? Are you leading the charge or on the sidelines?

    The rest of your diatribe is comedic gold. Maybe that is the Jewish blood in you.

  72. @DanFromCT

    rednecks behind the wheel of America’s trucks will blockade or refuse loads into the sanctuary cities in a flash reaction to violence against whites.

    Also in a flash reaction to violence against themselves.

    The military, cops, and UN’s “peacekeeper” goons will be overwhelmed trying to restore order in those cities. Tourist revenues evaporate overnight.

    Concrete eats troops. Note that the PRC hasn’t gone into Hong Kong just yet. They’re most likely containing and hoping the whole thing will fizzle on its own.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] “Chapter Two: URBAN TERRAIN AND URBAN OPERATIONS”
    https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1132/MR1132.chap2.pdf
    Nightmare terrain, and the troops get numerous rules of engagement.

  73. Anon[104] • Disclaimer says:

    Do you want real conservatism? Prosecute Pizzagate and Spygate. If traitors are convicted, let the courts sentence them to the customary penalty for treason.

  74. @peterAUS

    This from the IrishSavant:

    Speaking of dumbed-down, new research suggests that fluoridated water consumed by pregnant women might reduce children’s intelligence. Obviously I’m not in a position to judge the validity of the research but I’ve always been deeply suspicious of the campaign to fluoridate our water. The only benefit claimed is a reduction in dental cavities and for this governments have gone to extraordinary lengths, including protracted court cases, to enforce adoption. This makes no sense at all. Unless of course the goal is a dumbed-down populace. Bertrand Russell, in his book ‘The Impact of Science on Society’ (1953) gave a clear indication of the long term goals of the Satanic ‘elite’: “Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organised insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton.”

  75. dude, we lost…what you and vdare are doing now is just giving false hope…but I guess donations keep coming in, so there is that, I guess

  76. anon[345] • Disclaimer says:

    Great reading here, but you guys are overthinking. We don’t need extensive, and often conflicting, analysis. or concentration on abstruse, intangible ideas -we need to solve problems. The problems are, in no order of importance:
    Affirmative action policies, both public and privately applied, must be ended.
    Unequivocal support for Israel must be ended.
    Rule by kritarchy must be ended.
    Lobby money must be ended and replaced by a sorting system for access to government.
    The borders must be controlled, e-verify established, the voting system secured for citizens only.
    Sanctuary cities must be stopped.
    Legal immigration must be stopped until further notice.
    Roads and bridges must be refurbished, the air traffic control system brought up to date, and a smart grid built.
    The brakes must be taken off the nuclear power industry.
    Welfare must be uncorrupted, and my Dangerous Idea established for stopping the rot, particularly in the ruined inner cities.
    The death penalty must be used, fairly, humanely and effectively.
    Military adventurism, and unnecessary foreign entanglements and conflicts not in our interest, must be curtailed.

    Do the right things, and you won’t have to worry about skin color or nationhood. You’ll automatically have a good America with good citizenry – the country it should be, just by establishing intelligent policy.

  77. anon[345] • Disclaimer says:

    Dangerous Idea

    Women become pregnant and gestate children and men do not. Women maintain that, for this reason, they are the proper arbiters of the decisions about baby-having. The elephant in the room is that this is not a contention that is derived from ethics or fairness , but rather from a position of power conferred by women’s biological attributes. An illustration of why we should recognize that this is wrong is that fact that our society has sanctions against men using their biological attribute of superior physical strength to gain an advantage against women..

    [MORE]

    On the other side of the issue, though, it’s also obviously neither fair nor ethical for anyone to try to co-opt control of women’s bodies and tell them whether or not they’re going to become pregnant or bring a given pregnancy to term. So, what are we to do to try to increase fairness to men, women and children? Continue with the assumption that men are to be treated as worker drones and the decision if and when to have children remains the province of women’s judgement alone? Continue to hold men responsible for ‘raising’ and ‘supporting’ children whose production was in large part the result of decision-making arrived at via the inherent power of their mothers’ physical, gender-based advantage? This seems neither equitable or desirable.

    Is it any wonder that battles of the sexes, brokering of women’s favors in exchange for men’s financial support, and less than healthy childhoods are so common?

    i posit the following as an outline of a solution.

    Since most people in America now agree that it’s wrong for people to own other people, suppose that we explicitly recognize that mothers and their children are not exempt form this principle, and that in our society, no one should be allowed to raise a child unless, before the birth, both the mother and father have signed a contract stating that they are each financially responsible for one half of the child’s support to age of majority. (These contracts would actually be enforced). The contract would hold irrespective of whether the man and woman remain together. Because of the inherent pain and risks of pregnancy and childbirth, the contract would require a standardized amount to be paid by the father to the mother in consideration of this work/risk. That amount would be deemed full compensation to the mother in lieu of, and would negate, any claim of other special rights by the mother in relation to the child and the father. Children born outside of this type of birth agreement contract would, the desires of either parent notwithstanding, be taken into the custody of a public agency and raised by the most caring and qualified professionals, applying the best possible practices, in well run and funded institutions set up expressly for that purpose. Contrasting with the life experience of unwanted kids in our current dysfunctional system, very little if any stigma should, nor as it became established, would, accrue to one’s being raised in an institution of the sort described above – rather it would, increasingly over time, simply be accepted as an indication that prior to one’s birth one’s parents were not in agreement about having a child – a lack of accord between them before one even entered the world and a part of their life stories rather than one’s own – and thus a fact devoid of personal rejection or negative implications about one’s intrinsic worth.

    If well implemented, the result would be far less of some things we’d be well rid of: welfare moms – with unhealthy, poorly raised kids born as income-generating tools, bad marriages, unhappy/unhealthy people, and the ancillary costs to our society.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  78. @Carolyn Yeager

    You are nailing it. One problem the white right has is that these conservative “whites” are often just higher class Anglo Saxons who have a marked preference for the Jewry who got us into this mess to begin with. As you say, it all starts with destroying the Germanophobe Judeo-Anglo ideological history of Wars 1 and 2.This false history is the basis of the post war Semophile brain wash we all got. Buchanan knows this but he can’t write for Vdare if he says it. Derb rules. Keep up the good work Carolyn

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  79. @peterAUS

    There is no anonymity in com boxes. Anything you say can and will be used against you. I often think this should be posted at the “join the discussion” prompt.

  80. Trump’s original sin was being born a frothing deminted jew who has the same kabbalah child molesting mossad Rabbi as madonna being Roy Cohn’s homofag bitch slave and being involved in Soros, Rothschild, and other judaic crime syndicates up to his eyeballs for decades, the zog is a vicious ignorant pile of trife, and seperation without mentioning seperation and removal of the jews and judaic led satanic terror orgs is disgusting, hello paging you Aquino and Lavey

  81. @anon

    Trump’s original sin was being born a frothing demented jew who has the same kabbalah child molesting mossad Rabbi as madonna being Roy Cohn’s homofag bitch slave and being involved in Soros, Rothschild, and other judaic crime syndicates up to his eyeballs for decades, the zog is a vicious ignorant pile of trife, and seperation without mentioning seperation and removal of the jews and judaic led satanic terror orgs is disgusting, hello paging you Aquino and Lavey

  82. @Charles Pewitt

    I have decided to outlaw the word ‘hypocrisy.’ For 50 years I have been listening to conservatives whine about the left’s hypocrisy. Enough! We KNOW they are hypocritical. They seem to enjoy it. Maybe we should try following suit. Maybe we should “sink to their level” and WIN a little instead of making the game about calling out hypocrisy. I haven’t watched Hannity in years because I got fed up with his whining about hypocrisy, those outrages that are never ever ever punished by events and only serve to keep his audience of elderly grumblers watching.

  83. The one thing we never get in politics is the opportunity to vote for a socially conservative party. The GOP merely fakes it, harvesting the votes of social conservatives and then doing nothing for them (but give Trump credit for one thing: he actually appointed seemingly conservative justices.) Social conservatism is taken off the menu not because it’s hopeless, nor because it’s irrelevant, but because it is neither. It is the largest threat to the neo-liberal, globalist, politically correct, victimist juggernaut.

    And if one party frames its appeal in the language of social radicalism, shouldn’t the opposition party push back? Yet even tough-talking Trump is me-too on most of these issues, most lately gun control. The MAGA movement explicitly rejected the ‘fiscally conservative, socially inclusive’ message that the establishment of both parties had settled on, but it now appears the movement has been totally defeated except for a few vestigial sound-bites. Trump’s technique, to the extent he may be regarded as sincere, is reduced to continuously appearing to be about to implement neo-conservative priorities, from war with Iran to letting the mental health profession decide who may exercise their second amendment or even first amendment rights.

    The family is disintegrating. Religious observance is being pushed to the margins and beyond. Cynicism, despair, drug addiciton, and suicide are steadily increasing. Women are no longer having children. Not just immigration, but also feminism and ‘meritocracy’ have made the survival of the white middle-class problematic.

    The “alt right” who gather at Unz.com are for the most part no different from the RINOs and “Establishment conservatives” in their unwillingness to get beyond immigration to talk about the momentous government-sponsored destruction of our Christian culture and its norms. Talk about ‘nationalism’ is cucked if it stops with affirming the goodness of dead white presidents. If immigration stopped tomorrow we’d still be doomed. Nor is the problem a surfeit of low-IQ non-whites. Indeed, if freed from the subversive influence of the white social radicals they would be the least of our problems.

    Readers at Unz hold a variety of opinions on social issues; all I am saying is that these issues should no longer be ignored. Tucker Carlson, to his great credit, has insisted on re-opening their discussion, but he can’t do it alone. Whether you favor the arrest of homosexuals and replacement of representative democracy by Catholic theocracy, or a campaign to eradicate religion and replace the nuclear family with the kibbutz system, we need to talk about it. No ‘conservative’ or ‘populist’ movement can ignore this 600 pound gorilla that is trampling the culture, effecting everything. What does ‘whiteness’ amount to without a distinctive culture? And if you are in love with white people, why not protect the culture that white people have created? It’s time to forget about immigration and the economy, even foreign policy, and turn our intention to the war over the ideals that underlie policy recommendations on all these things.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  84. @anon

    But you won’t be able to do those things without changing the political demographic or at least the climate. “Our side” needs to come out of the closet and get into the game, even if it means some people being abused or martyred. The Left never backs off when called names; why must the Right back off?

    The key IMO is to break up the Rainbow Coalition by driving a wedge between the ethnic minorities and the combination of sexual minorities + Jews. This can be done by offering ethnic minorities an agenda that appeals as much as what the Dems are offering, while promoting social conservatism e.g. pro-life, anti-gay, support for religious schools, gun rights. Socially conservative policies appeal to nonwhites while enraging sexual minorities and white bourgeois liberals, breaking up the coalition. Populism in a nutshell is social conservatism with economic liberalism. It is the one agenda that dare not speak its name. Both parties revile it lest they lose Jewish support. The key to everything is to find an end run around Jewish support (donations and editorials, not the small Jewish vote.)

  85. @anon

    Do the right things, and you won’t have to worry about skin color or nationhood. You’ll automatically have a good America with good citizenry – the country it should be, just by establishing intelligent policy.

    That looked good back in 1960. Then history happened. Any attempt to rule by policy is diverted into funding for one party or another. The USSR (which actually did believe in a planned economy and had about as much force to achieve it as any human government could have) found that:
    a) the approach worked under Stalin because
    1) Stalin killed or removed anybody who didn’t follow his (very inefficient) plans
    2) Stalin’s goal was extremely simple: develop the heavy industry needed to fight a 20th Century industrialized war. Efficiency didn’t much matter, but sheer mass did.

    b) No strong replacement could be tolerated (or even found) after Stalin and planning failed.
    1) Planning is not capable of running a civil economy, even theoretically. Too many transactions, few of which can be monitored.
    2) Stalin’s industrial state had, even under Stalin, developed into a network of political domains, within which bosses determined actions and generated reports were elaborate fabrications with great verisimilitude (rather like US bureaucracies, no?). Funds intended for project A were invariably spent on project Z, except some of the time in important military projects. Between A and Z were many other projects, proposed and never executed, as area bosses rewarded their subordinates with money. The society in the USSR froze as it was at Stalin’s death, AD 1953.

    And this happened in the US also. Tax money ended up being spent to displace the American taxpayer with foreigners, prevent any adaptation of urban areas to changed economics, send American industry to China. That was the death of the policy approach. If you can’t raise the dead, don’t try to raise the policy approach.

    Counterinsurgency

  86. @jack daniels

    But you won’t be able to do those things without changing the political demographic or at least the climate. “Our side” needs to come out of the closet and get into the game, even if it means some people being abused or martyred. The Left never backs off when called names; why must the Right back off?

    The ‘no back off’ is on the way.

    The key IMO is to break up the Rainbow Coalition by driving a wedge between the ethnic minorities and the combination of sexual minorities + Jews.

    They are driving it themselves. The policy of importing foreigners to maintain urban voting base is failing as the available foreigners don’t like current urban leadership but are also unable to run a city. Concurrently, cities are in severe financial trouble and can’t buy their way out of troubles with voting blocks that want to replace their coalition’s leadership.

    It’s time to think beyond taking the next hill. What do we want after urban areas lose their dominance? My personal belief is that industrial civilization in the US is in danger, and we should concentrate on that (note Trumps activity in that area), but that’s just me. Industrial civilization is just one of several things that need saving, and is perhaps best thought of as the economic base for these “several things”. But what are the “several things”? What should be done to save them?

    For example, ending genocide of the descendants of the WW II American population might be one of the “several things” to do.

    Counterinsurgency

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  87. Corvinus says:
    @jack daniels

    “the momentous government-sponsored destruction of our Christian culture and its norms…”

    Except this Christian culture means different things to different people.

    “What does ‘whiteness’ amount to without a distinctive culture?”

    Please define what does “whiteness” mean to you. Must all white people subscribe to this definition? What happens if white people reject it, or have their own definition? Who is ultimately “right” with “whiteness”?

    ” This can be done by offering ethnic minorities an agenda that appeals as much as what the Dems are offering, while promoting social conservatism e.g. pro-life, anti-gay, support for religious schools, gun rights.”

    Except there are whites who want to exclude ethnic minorities, i.e. separate white and minority enclaves. The fear is that those groups, if included in this “conservative agenda”, will then rise up and overtake whites. How do you address this particular grievance?

  88. Corvinus says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    “For example, ending genocide of the descendants of the WW II American population might be one of the “several things” to do.”

    Except that is not occurring.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  89. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    “both the mother and father have signed a contract stating that they are each financially responsible for one half of the child’s support to age of majority. (These contracts would actually be enforced)”

    OK, so now you are in charge of promoting this plan to citizens and politicians. Start locally. Report back in a month regarding your progress. I mean, since you are so gung-ho about your course of action, I take it you will be front and center in ensuring it becomes a reality, right?

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  90. Some of you are attempting to dissect conservatism as though it is a thing as opposed to a way of thinking and behaving. An approach to life itself. It is a difficult walk to maintain consistently. There are several tiers that are generally fundamental to that approach.

    1. that life has at a governing force a power that exceeds human comprehension – the divine –
    and while one not need not believe in the divine, acknowledging and adhering to the tenets of the same — would qualify

    2. that life is objective and physical as well as spiritual and that there is objectove truth as well as divine.

    3. human beings are create governance based on the truths such that each is common to the benefit of community.

    4. establishes institutions that serve as mechanisms of that benefit.

    5. Change is a part of life, but change needs to enacted prudently so as not to upset the orderly function of benefit to community. Respect to authority is not blind obedience or even one of blind trust, especially when it comes to governmental structures.

    6. At the center of all of these is the concept of truth and fairness. Fairness is essential to community order and well being.

    Now the classical model as understood from Edmund Burke has some issues. Not the least of which is that a conservative by definition is going to hold a healthy suspicion of government and its tend to serve itself and the those that operate in it.

    Note: the christian mantra about obeying the authorities is often abused. Hence the vast contradiction is the admonition by conservative christians that some must always defer to anything the authority say out of respect for the same, even it violates good order and the law. Yet those same christian s are heck bent on violating immigration laws and using the same books verses to justify it. They are eager to justify their violating immigration laws while ignoring the plight of those who live in the same country and worse seeking to punish them if they exercise their right to critique the state, even foreign states.

    ——————————–

    Several problems here:

    Not the least of which is that being a conservative is a “white ethic exclusively and never has been. Nothing stops anyone from acting and thinking as a conservative except their choices. Skin color does not impact that in anyway.

    Skin color is a benign trait and has meaning in the context of environemnts

  91. Skin color is a benign trait and has meaning “social” in the context of environements

  92. Agent76 says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Here is even more wisdom, “The oppinion of 10.000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject.” Marcus Aurelius

  93. @Corvinus

    “both the mother and father have signed a contract stating that they are each financially responsible for one half of the child’s support to age of majority. (These contracts would actually be enforced)”

    OK, so now you are in charge of promoting this plan to citizens and politicians. Start locally. Report back in a month regarding your progress. I mean, since you are so gung-ho about your course of action, I take it you will be front and center in ensuring it becomes a reality, right?

    Corvinus:

    Until quite recently as such things go the contract was called “marriage” and it worked rather well.

    Counterinsurgency

  94. @Carolyn Yeager

    Hitler is misunderstood. His only goal was to save Germany from (((Bolshevik))) Russia. He had no interest in conquering the world.

    I am not a Nationalist Socialist. I’ve listened to some of your podcasts on Radio Aryan. You have some interesting insights but Hitler and national socialism are not the answer.

    I’m a Western nationalist and biological materialist. As a Western, Christian woman, I start by defining what the West is and is not. We know the West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. European culture is Graeco-Roman-Christian.

    E. Michael Jones is correct that using the term “white” immediately puts Western peoples on the defensive. Europe has countries, and while the USA is a WASP nation, many European peoples have intermarried and adopted WASP culture so that we are a unique country.

    VDare and AmRen are Jew-controlled websites. Jews control and work from both the right and the left. This is why I state that Jews are not Western and must be sent to Israel. I support Israel as the homeland for Jews. I’ve been to Israel. I went for Christmas and had a nice time. As long as Christian holy sites are protected, we can work with the Israelis.

    Keep in mind that the Roman Catholic Church is another source of our problems. I was a cradle Catholic who left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. The Orthodox Church will be the church of the West as the churches are racial/ethnic. The globalists have taken control of the RCC.

    I know all about Hitler not wanting a war with the British. WWI and WWII were caused by British Freemasons who believed that they would control the world if the temple was rebuilt in Jerusalem. This is why the British supported the establishment of Israel. This may sound a bit esoteric, but this is the reason. However, the temple will never by rebuilt.

    We have to deal with our present day enemies. These are Roman Catholics who accept black/Asian priests-popes, Christian Zionists who believe present day Jews are the chosen, and gentile Freemasons who believe in universal brotherhood. Examples of these negrophiliac cucks are Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. We have to deal with idiots like the classicist Donna Zuckerberg, Mark’s sister, who is busy rewriting ancient Greek and Roman civilization to show that it was Jews/blacks/Asians who developed the West. Mark Zuckerberg has a Chinese wife and offspring. Pure degeneracy and madness.

    Establishing a state for blacks should be the first step. Most blacks are moving back to the South so this will not be difficult. Getting rid of dual and birthright citizenship will take care of the Jews and illegals. Legal immigrants from Asia will have to go back. Latin Americans are heterogeneous so those who are Western and have assimilated are not a problem. Christian Arabs are not a problem. American Indians and Eskimos are not a problem. We have to give Puerto Rico its independence.

    Schools and universities will have to teach the supremacy of Western civilization. One of the most infuriating things that the cucks at VDare and AmRen are always babbling is that Northeast Asians and Jews are smarter than whites. They are not and had nothing to do with the development of Western civilization. IQ and its relation to race will have to be taught in schools.

    These things can be done. But they will only be done when we deal with the cucked Western male.

    Let Hitler rest in peace.

  95. denk says:
    @Sparkon

    Tsk tsk tsk….

    The oh so reliable wiki quoting the cock‘s report !
    OMFG !

    wHEN WILL they ever learn, when’ll they e–ver learn ?

    Jonathan Pollack, Rand Corps senior analysist..

    ‘The report was an unbelievable rush to judgment,”
    “I find myself bemused by it all–and deeply disturbed.”

    “It is particularly weak on the nuclear espionage issue, the most important one. Who did what to whom is very unclear in its spotty narrative. There are too many unhedged judgments, too many unexplained statements. As a serious document, it simply does not cohere. One has to conclude that the committee knew the answers it wanted before it started out. If it were a PhD thesis at Rand, I’d flunk it.”’

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-jul-21-me-58074-story.html

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  96. denk says:

    A balkanised U.S, not a bad idea….
    forchrissake, the world has had enough of the unitedsnakes. !

    BUt I aint holding my breath……..
    cuz,
    There aint no gawd damned murikkan embassy in Washington DC

    heheheh

  97. Sunshine says:
    @attilathehen

    Asia may end up being less than hospitable towards white men married to waifus. They’re on the rise, and soon Asian women won’t need white men for status elevation. And as soon as a waifu has no need for the white husband, they’re gone. The kids? Well, like all mixes, they side with the non white parent, as they are themselves, non white. Good luck with that strategy though, white male race traitors!

    Although unfortunately as a white woman I see every day why so many white men “go yellow”. If I was a man I wouldn’t want 99% of white women either. So I’m not totally unsympathetic, especially since we have white sons that will be faced with this dilemma one day. What a mess we’ve become, as a race.

  98. Sparkon says:
    @denk

    Attacking the source, Ad hominem, is an informal logical fallacy. But sure, Wikipedia is not reliable but the Los Angeles Times and the RAND Corp. are.

    You won’t accept my source, but want me to accept yours. At the very least, that’s a double standard. Anyway, I’ve used up my LAT allotment for the month.

    So I won’t say too much about RAND Corporation, but with such intellectual luminaries as — wait for it — Condoleezza Rice on board, one can hardly fail to be impressed, or something. Of course with the likes of Scooter Libby, Don Rumsfeld, and Henry Kissinger as “participants,” who could ever doubt RAND’s objectivity?

    I will eventually plow through or at least skim the entire 931-page House Report 105-851 (link to PDF below), which is preceded by this note on redaction (in part):

    As a result of these deletions, a number of significant events, facts, and analyses have been omitted from this declassified Report. In several cases, important factual examples substantiating conclusions in the report have been deleted. In other cases, explicit findings of the Select Committee have been suppressed. The Select Committee’s classified Final Report, therefore, remains the definitive product of its investigation and analysis.

    (my bold)

    Of course, the mighty Rand Corporation and Jonathan Pollack, Rand Corps senior “analysist” should not and would not trouble itself with deleted factual examples, or suppressed explicit findings in writing his scathing put-down of the Cox Report.

    Neither can one solve an equation when factors are missing nor can one arrive at the truth when facts are deleted.

    Tsk tsk indeed.

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CRPT-105hrpt851/pdf/GPO-CRPT-105hrpt851.pdf

    • Replies: @denk
  99. Sparkon says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    HOLLYWOOD HOMOSEXUAL PEDERAST RONALD REAGAN…

    You seem to think that writing typing in all caps increases the truthiness of it, but it’s just cheesy.

    I’ve read a lot about Ronald Reagan’s romantic acitivities in his early days in Hollywood, including the likes of Betty Grable, Lana Turner, Joan Blondell, Doris Day, and Marilyn Monroe, among many, many others — all decidedly female — but I’ve never before seen any suggestion that he was queer or bisexual, so would you mind providing a source for this claim, and do it in lower case?

    And while we’re talking about this, and considering the glamorous and beautiful line-up of Hollywood’s most fabulous flesh available to the glib young handsome actor Ronald Reagan, how on Earth did mousy little ex-Commie [?] Nancy Davis ever win the Gipper’s hand?

  100. @Sunshine

    Most “white” men married to Asians are Jews. Mark Zuckerberg is an example of this type. Also, Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks.

    I live in an area “vibrating with diversity.” Western males still marry Western women. Some choose Caucasian women from Latin America so there is no problem there.

    You are correct that hapas will side with their Asian side. Many marry blacks.

    Derbyshire’s Chinese family is a perfect example. These types will have to be repatriated to Asia.

    The strange idea of the “submissive Asian woman” is disappearing. Western males involved with Asian females cannot be a part of any Western political movement.

  101. @nsa

    No. In fact it never will. USA will become like Brazil, a kind of pigmentocracy, the paler the better off, and without the resources to provide a welfare state.

  102. @attilathehen

    Thanks very much for this thorough reply. It gives me a chance to clarify that I am not your run-of-the-mill Nazi. I am not trying to resurrect Adolf Hitler and National Socialism in modern day form. I’m only saying that nothing better has arisen since he left and we should look to him and his regime for inspiration. My interest is in HISTORICAL revisionism so we can move forward without “white guilt”, to build our communities the way we want them to be. However, we will never get all the Jews in the world to go to Israel – never.

    I like that you are not for national division into separate territories, but affirm that “this is our European country.” You can call it WASP if you want, but that leaves out an awful lot of white europeans who helped build it. I do not relate to WASP. But please see my latest post at https://carolynyeager.net/world-class-hypocrites. It explains a lot. You can contact me there – I hope we can keep in touch.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  103. @Achilles Wannabe

    Achilles,
    Thanks. I appreciate it!

    • Replies: @Achilles Wannabe
  104. denk says:
    @Sparkon

    Wikipedia is not reliable

    there you say it,
    wiki is tptb agitprop, plus Cox is a well known sinophobe,

    Rand Corp, Condezza Rice

    There you say it,
    Rand Corp is a tptb ‘think tank’,
    aka mouth piece, mega sinophobe outfit,.

    Why is sinophobe Rand Corp more ‘reliable’ than sinophobe wiki /Cox ?
    ———————-

    Logic 101 for murikkano,

    When a known sinophobe accuse China of a ‘crime’,
    Take it with a pint of salt,

    When even a mega sinophobe like Rand question that accusation, its as good as ‘debunking’. !

    ‘Pollack’s condemnation is no mere academic exercise. He is no anti-Republican pinko, and Rand, which for years existed on Pentagon largess, is no Beijing-by-the-Santa-Monica-Bay. Pollack is angry because he believes the issue of Chinese spying deserved a far more probative and prudent assessment than it got from the bipartisan panel chaired by Christopher Cox, a conservative Orange County congressman.’

    There’s nuthin ‘ Ad hominem,’ about it,
    Basic logic 101 stuff,
    Elementary…Watson.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  105. @Carolyn Yeager

    You have a pod. I had no idea. I will check it out.

  106. @Carolyn Yeager

    Thank you.

    Yes, you are correct that “white guilt” is what is holding us back. I think part of this white guilt stems from the first world nations Westerners have built versus what the second and third world have built. I don’t suffer from this guilt. I give thanks daily that I was born a Western, Christian woman with a very good IQ.

    There is a great deal of historical revision going on so we are beginning to get a clearer picture of what happened in the 20th century. People will have to start realize that we must focus on rebuilding the West and this means only Western peoples can do this. This is why the Catholic Church is having a difficult time. Diversity has collapsed it. Fortunately, we have the Orthodox Church.

    We don’t need for all the Jews to go to Israel. They will not have voting or permanent residency rights in the West. They can visit the West just as Western Christians go to Israel for Christmas and Easter. We have to make Christian Zionists realize that present day Jews are not related to the Jews of the Old Testament or when Jesus lived. If present day Jews want to be Jewish, they must do it Israel. Judaism is not a part of the West.

    Westerners are going to have to realize that blacks and Asians are not Western and must be deported or segregated. Diversity destroys. This is why Western culture has degenerated. Western peoples cannot be Western with non-Western population groups.

    I didn’t mean to leave out European groups when I used the term WASP. WASP is very generic. The Founding Fathers belong to all Western groups. Many other Europeans have left their imprint on the USA. The Spanish, French, and Dutch left many interesting cultural markers, but it is the English who won and are dominant. What I meant is that English is the official language and we must bring back the pre-1965 assimilation requirements of the USA. Derbyshire and his Chinese family are a perfect example of post-1965 immigrants who will not and can not assimilate in America.

    The critical standard is Westerness. As we bring this idea forth, this will help us to move forward because no one can accuse us of racism or some nonsense. People know what the West is and is not. Other terms for describing the West and East are Occident and Orient.

    I will check out your blog and contact you.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  107. @David 'The Diversity Mastermind' Lammey

    Your colloquial “badass” oration
    Is deserving of some consternation.
    Standard English is best
    For preserving the West
    From more cultural disintegration.

  108. Sparkon says:
    @denk

    Taking my words out of context is dishonest.

    Have you read the report?

    • Replies: @denk
  109. @attilathehen

    WASP is also a propaganda acronym. All Anglo Saxons are white. Goes back to the invasion of Anglia (later England) by the Saxons, a Germanic tribe. Idea was to portray white Protestant Americans as noxious insects that must be exterminated for everybody’s safety. I suggest discarding the term.

    Suggest using “European descended” or “American WW II generation descendants”, which is more descriptive and more useful, as well, since the American WW II generation descendants are the ones being targeted for cultural genocide and replacement by foreigners, which is what “Change America!” means..

    Counterinsurgency

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
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    , @Truth
  110. homahr says:

    Israel will destroy all Christian holy sites very soon.

  111. @Counterinsurgency

    Interesting point. I use Caucasoid, Mongoloid and Negroid. Caucasoids are the original peoples of the Middle East and Europe. Within the Caucasoid group we get the different ethnicities. Caucasoid is another term for Western. Caucasoids have the highest IQs.

    The only intelligent Mongoloids are the Japanese.

    We know who is and who is not Western. The West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim.

  112. denk says:
    @Sparkon

    dishonest.

    Really ?
    Seems my logic lesson is wasted !

    Apparently you’ve read the cock’s report,
    can you show me the smoking gun ?

  113. @attilathehen

    Good point you have about NATO, yes. You’re a funny little bitch.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  114. @DanFromCT

    In all seriousness, fairly soon the so-called rednecks likely will have to sabotage or obstruct trucks that drive themselves over the long-haul portion of the route.

    Opponents need only get someone to drive or guide the trucks those last local miles.

  115. @jack daniels

    It may be the case outside California that socially conservative policies on homosexuality, abortion, and the like are popular with nonwhite minorities.

    At least here in SoCal, however, it seems that nonwhites born and raised here — even with mostly-socially-conservative Latino or Asian immigrant parents or grandparents — are reflexively left and well indoctrinated.

  116. @RadicalCenter

    And you’re a funny son-of-a-bitch. Can’t handle it when you’re outed?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  117. @attilathehen

    https://vdare.com/posts/demography-is-destiny-in-the-deep-south

    Hi Carolyn. Above is another article by the Kirkpatrick kuck. Towards the middle he whines about Republicans not getting elected or getting civic nationalist policies maintained in black majority areas.

    This is a good thing. As more blacks move to the South, we can carve out a state for them. This is the first step in the Reconquista. Once again, VDare and AmRen are the enemies.

  118. Just a reminder–there is not _one_ member of Congress advocating the ideas discussed in this thread.

    Not one.

    Let that sink in.

    (This has been a public service announcement. 🙂 )

  119. @attilathehen

    Which info did you reveal, great sleuth, that I hadn’t revealed myself? You don’t seem to get what outing means.

  120. @Sunshine

    My wife didn’t need me for status elevation. She was educated, fluent in English, well employed, and a permanent resident of the USA on track to citizenship before we met.

    (I wouldn’t date a foreign woman who lacked a good job and especially a path to us citizenship without me, because I wouldn’t be able to fully trust her. My wife I’ve always trusted and still do, and she hasn’t changed except for the better since we got together.)

    As for other white man / Asian woman couples, your somewhat outdated generalization may be more accurate.

    FWIW, I didn’t find white women mostly terrible when I was single, not at all. But the American white women were noticeably changing for the worse in my late single years, and we have seen drastic decline in the not-all-that-many years since (as measured by, inter alia, vulgarity, morbid obesity, prevalence of tattoos, slovenly to slutty dress, and general lack of courtesy and femininity).

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  121. Truth says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Well you don’t want to go by “ASP”, that a creepy; slithering, dangerous andd poisonous snake, deadly to ANY organization it comes in contact with!

    Wait, now that you mention it..

  122. Separatism sounds great! Nazis, please leave my country. You lost WWII. We don’t want you here. If you really want it, you can have Florida.

  123. @RadicalCenter

    You and your Asian family will go to Asia.

    You’ve admitted that Asians are superior to whites. They are not.

    You will go where you “believe” are the superior people.

    You definitely degenerated when you married your Asian female.

  124. anarchyst says:
    @MarkinLA

    If you think “healthcare” is expensive now, wait till it’s “free”.
    Taxes will have to be raised to confiscatory levels.
    The most egregious aspects of “socialized healthcare” will be the “wait” for services, and the fact that some government official will make your healthcare decisions for you–some lifesaving drugs and services will be deemed “too expensive” and unavailable. Woe to you if you are elderly…you will be denied lifesaving treatments-euthanasia as a government mandate.
    Not only that, but, if you choose to obtain your healthcare services in another country, you will be prohibited from doing so. Look at the two infants who were denied the right to travel for healthcare that the British National Health System was unable to provide, despite the offshore healthcare services being provided at no cost to the parents. The National Health System refused to “allow” the infants to receive treatment in another country, and essentially held the infants “hostage”.
    Add to that, experimental treatments will not be allowed, no matter the possible efficacy and success.
    Is this what we want?
    As an aside, in most countries with “socialized medicine”, supplemental (private) insurance is still necessary, in order to get decent “healthcare”.

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