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[See: If Only The God-Emperor Knew: Using Trumpism Against The Trump Administration” by James Kirkpatrick]

He must have known what was coming. Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee, a pillar of the cowardly GOP Establishment, announced he would not be running for re-election on Tuesday [Republican Sen. Corker announces he won’t seek re-election, by Richard Lardner and Erik Schelzig, Associated Press, September 26, 2017]. Corker’s departure is widely being interpreted as a sign of the Establishment’s inability to control the GOP base, as the election of President Trump, the rise of nationalism and the emergence of alternative media outlets (such as Breitbart and VDARE.com) make it harder for cuckservatives to Republican primary voters in line [Sen. Bob Corker’s retirement is notable for when it’s happening, by Amber Phillips, Washington Post, September 26, 2017]

And now, we have the ultimate proof in Alabama. Judge Roy Moore, one of the most persistent targets of the Southern Poverty Law Center, is now the Republican nominee for the Senate. And he defeated incumbent Senator Luther Strange despite Strange being endorsed by President Donald J. Trump himself.

Of course, Strange didn’t just have Trump in his corner. He also had Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell using his PAC to run negative ads against Moore, ads which conservative websites called “defamatory” and which cost many millions of dollars [McConnell’s Super PAC accused of ‘defaming ‘ Roy Moore, by Bob Unruh, WND, August 3, 2017] As a result, Judge Moore openly campaigned against his party’s own Senate leader during the primary, claiming a victory for him would mean the end of McConnell’s hapless leadership. [McConnell’s mortal enemy might soon be in his caucus, by Burgess Everett and Seung Min Kim, Politico, September 18, 2017]

However, and significantly, Moore never campaigned against President Trump himself. Yet Trump certainly gave Moore ample cause. He openly campaigned for Luther Strange, speaking with the incumbent Senator at a major rally, with Strange sporting a red MAGA hat [Alabama rally: Trump campaigns in last-ditch effort for Senate candidate Luther Strange, by Alex Pappas, Fox News, September 22, 2017]. Trump also said Moore would have a hard time beating the Democrats because they would pour in so much money. He even called Moore by the wrong first name [President Trump admits he doesn’t ‘know that much’ about Alabama Senate contender Roy Moore, gets his name wrong in interview, by Jason Silverstein, New York Daily News, September 25, 2017]

And yet, revealingly, Moore and his allies framed their insurgency against Trump’s wishes as an act of loyalty.

During a debate with Strange, Moore suggested President Trump was being “redirected” by Mitch McConnell and others who “will not support his [Trump’s] agenda” [Alabama Senate debate erupts over whether McConnell is manipulating Trump, by Alex Isenstadt and Daniel Strauss, Politico, September 21, 2017]

UKIP’s former leader Nigel Farage said “absolutely” that “the point is to help the president” by electing Roy Moore and suggested The Judge would help deliver on President Trump’s agenda [Brexit Hero Farage in Alabama: Judge Roy Moore ‘Not Going To Be Sucked Into The Swamp’ by Ian Mason, Breitbart, September 25, 2017]

Sarah Palin channeled Trump’s rhetoric by saying Moore would take on “DC’s swamp monsters” and “help Make America Great Again” [Sarah Palin endorses Judge Roy Moore for US Senate, by Randy DeSoto, Western Journalism, August 24, 2017]

Some of President Trump’s best-known advisors also backed Moore.

Even before Trump’s inauguration, when there were troubling signs the new President was surrounding himself with the Republican Establishment, it was clear that the President’s supporters would need to rise against Trump in his own name. The victory of Roy Moore is the best example so far of how this insurgency will play out.

And most importantly, it shows how the populist and nationalist movement is larger than Trump himself.

Trump’s advisors seem to know this. In the Fox News interview referenced above, Dr. Gorka claimed “no one voted for Trump, we voted for his agenda.” And during his speech in support of Moore, Bannon referenced Jeff Sessions, not Trump, as the “spiritual father of the populist and nationalist movement.”

But does Trump himself know this? Already, the Main Stream Media is trying to present this as a devastating defeat for the president personally. The New York Times kvetched about Moore’s social views and sneered that his victory “demonstrated in stark terms the limits of Mr. Trump’s clout” [Roy Moore Wins Senate G.O.P. Runoff in Alabama, by Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns, September 26, 2017]. Jason Le Miere at Newsweek suggested Trump had suffered his first major political defeat at the ballot box and hinted his political weakness could trigger his impeachment. [How Alabama Senate Election Results Could Trigger Trump’s Impeachment, September 26, 2017]

This wildly overstates the case. Trump had hedged his bets, suggesting at one point he made a “mistake” in endorsing Strange [Trump supports Strange, but says it may be “mistake,” Washington Post, September 25, 2017]. He also said he would “campaign like hell” for Moore if Moore won [Roy Moore: ‘I can’t wait’ for Trump to ‘campaign like hell’ for me, by Sean Langille, Washington Examiner, September 25, 2017].

It’s hardly a devastating defeat for President Trump when his supposed enemies are fanatically loyal to him and his “allies” can’t wait to stab him in the back.

But there is still a lesson for Trump. The Chamber of Commerce and Republican Establishment picked this fight to “shut down” Moore and show populists who was in charge. [Chamber of Commerce: ‘Shut Down’ Roy Moore & ‘Remind Bannon Who’s In Charge’ by Joel Pollak, Breitbart, September 24, 2017] They just got their answer. It’s not them.

Trump should seize on the narrative of his supposed opponents. He is unquestionably being given objectively poor political counsel by his aides—not surprising how utterly incompetent the Republican Establishment is when it comes to political strategy. [Steve Bannon: We Need A Review After This Alabama Race To See How Trump Came To Endorse Someone Like Luther Strange, by Allahpundit, Hot Air, September 26, 2017]

Tellingly, Trump in his messy intuitive way is already embarking on a movement to shore up his base by taking on the pro-Black Lives Matter and anti-American antics of the National Football League [Trump’s N.F.L. Critique a Calculated Attempt to Shore Up His Base, by Glenn Thrush and Maggie Haberman, New York Times, September 25, 2017]. But such symbolic fights are meaningless unless they are coupled with real action on trade and immigration policy.

Today, those who defeated Trump in the Republican army are still proclaiming their loyalty to their Commander-in-Chief. But Donald Trump, memes aside, is not a sovereign or just a symbol. He is a man who created a political movement—and that movement expects results. The movement he created, and which put him in office, is desperate for him to lead on an America First agenda.

If Trump does not give it results, the movement will eventually find a new leader. Roy Moore is almost certainly not that leader on a national scale. But in Alabama tonight, Moore proved he is stronger than the president himself.

Trump has given the Establishment Republicans their chance and they have failed him. It’s time for him to return to the people who have supported him from the very beginning.

James Kirkpatrick [Email him] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. A weird concept, populism. It is used when democracy functions, but not as those in power want. Germany now is totally confused because thirteen % voted for a nationalist party.

  2. Parsifal says:

    Look people, it’s time to grasp some basic politics. The heart might have said Roy Moore but a leader can not think with his heart alone. Whatever happened in the GOP primary, Luther Strange was going to remain in the Senate until January. There are big, important votes coming up in Congress and Trump’s margin of error in the Senate is virtually non-existent. What sense does it make to alienate, even slight, a sitting Senator that has always voted your way and has never trashed you in public?

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  3. Realist says:

    Moore’s victory means nothing. If Moore is elected it will change nothing. The Deep State rules….they will eat Moore for lunch.

    “Trump has given the Establishment Republicans their chance and they have failed him.”

    Trump has caved to the Establishment Republicans. He will never return.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  4. Randal says:

    All seems pretty much directly on target.

    It’s hardly a devastating defeat for President Trump when his supposed enemies are fanatically loyal to him and his “allies” can’t wait to stab him in the back.

    As a man who supposedly highly values personal loyalty, does Trump really not understand that the men who pushed him to support Strange are also the men who will be first in line to vote for impeachment the moment it looks as though the leftist establishment has found a pretext that will succeed?

    • Replies: @Bill
  5. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Like Bannon said, the Trump people voted for is gone. If he was ever around, or just being smart enough to know what to say to get votes.

    President Kushner, er Trump will not be draining any Swamp anytime soon, not until he drags himself out of the Swamp and back onto sane, dry land.

  6. WhiteWolf says:

    The movement better start paying attention to the thoughtcrime laws being passed right now under the banner of “hatespeech”. The first amendment isn’t just a nice concept. People in other countries are jailed for speaking their mind in the way Americans take for granted.

  7. As a result, Judge Moore openly campaigned against his party’s own Senate leader during the primary, claiming a victory for him would mean the end of McConnell’s hapless leadership.

    This is crazy, this is crazy, this is crazy… Is this not enough evidence for anyone that R’s and D’s are just two wings of The Party working together to get the elite establishment’s job done?.

    He is unquestionably being given objectively poor political counsel by his aides—not surprising how utterly incompetent the Republican Establishment is when it comes to political strategy.

    Bad advice from beltway-veteran advisers is a feature, not a bug, for the establishment. Trump is not smart enough to ignore them. As far as political strategy from the R establishment, that is not incompetency – they are just doing their jobs as part of the Red wing of The Inner Party.

    Whatever about the reasons, this is a good thing, and not just because Roy Moore has got a lot going for him as a rebel. It shows that the establishment CAN be beat, at least at this level. It’s just best not to let this effort get changed into an official movement with names, T-shirts and treasurers and secretaries. All that would come out of that would be that the movement would be soon co-opted by a) those with no principles who put their career hopes into the new organization, and just want a political job and the money. b) those who actively infiltrate the organization in order to force it back into the establishment fold.

    That lesson should have been learned from the Reform Party of ’92-’96 and the Tea Party of ’08= ’12. RIP to both of them.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  8. This and my last comment were not written to take apart this article – I’m a big fan/reader of all of Mr. Kirkpatrick’s writings, and I’m glad to read these details of the AL election in this latest one. These are just small disagreements with the interpretation of what’s going on. About this sentence,

    The movement he created, and which put him in office, is desperate for him to lead on an America First agenda.

    I wouldn’t put it this way – the nascent movement was everywhere, but without any presidential candidate of any use before, and since immigration is mostly a federal affair, it didn”t go anywhere until Trump stepped out of that hotel in summer ’15.

    Yeah, we can get better leaders, but Trump at least has the guts to defy The Party some of the time, at least with words. (yeah, I know, not good enough, but it’s heartening to hear someone on the side of the American people ONCE in a while.)

  9. i hope trump realizes he is just the figurehead of the populist movement and not its messiah.

  10. @Realist

    If Moore is elected it will change nothing. The Deep State rules….they will eat Moore for lunch.

    Maybe, maybe not. This guy has not just been called “a cowboy”, like it’s a bad thing. He HAS BEEN a cowboy. I can remember hearing about this guy defending his 10-Commandments artwork(?) – I’d always thought it was just a plaque on the wall – long, long ago. Whether one’s interpretation is that his court was in violation of US Constitution Amend I or not is one thing (my conclusion – NOT), but it’s the way he stood up for his beliefs to the point of resigning or getting canned from some of his positions in government that should be admired.

    Keep in mind, Ronald Reagan was “slurred” as a cowboy way back in the day, when only Euroweenies and Ameriweenies saw it as a slur. He/we heard this so many times when President Reagan up and used non-nuanced terminology about the Communist Soviet Union. I remember all this. . He was a man of principle too, though many think the Deep State got a hold of him pretty early on, as that .22 shot may have been a warning to him (it was no easy thing, his surviving that. The medical technology in 1981 was nothing like today’s).

    I can’t say Moore is exactly my kind of guy politically, but he may be oneof the hardest guys for the Deep State to bring into the fold.

    • Replies: @Realist
  11. @Achmed E. Newman

    ’08= ’12

    No, not a line of C++ code, it should be ’08 – ’12 – sorry about that. Laptop keyboards just aren’t the same as real keyboards – stuff’s in the WRONG PLACE.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  12. @Parsifal

    Please, drop the Trump genuflection. Its reflects poorly on your intellect.

    A carnival barking, crony-capitalist, serial bankrupt who has been thrice married is just not the guy around whom to rally – no matter how many fellow swamp creatures and SWJs he rankles.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  13. If Trump can’t deliver then Bannon will.

  14. Every passing day now shows Trump to be a blow-up doll, a shell of mixed-up, uninformed perceptions and dependent ideology, cast hither-and-yon by a procession of “advisers” no more intelligent or informed than he.

    Thus, America is now operated by the underlying, horrifically corrupt power structure, composed primarily of economic interests — the perpetually invoked “wealth and power”.

    America, as a democracy and representational Constitutional republic, has ceased to exist. Not even a Weimar-golem remains.

    • Replies: @Apex_Predator
  15. @Achmed E. Newman

    ’08= ’12

    It would take three DEFINES to turn that into C++ code

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  16. Farage’s presence is interesting. The essence of European nationalism is the distinction between “us” and “them”. English v Scottish, Castillian v Catalan, Ukrainian v Russian etc. You can’t therefore call yourself a “nationalist” and then let foreigners meddle in your country’s politics or yourself meddle in other countries’ politics. Nor can there be a sort of “nationalist intenational”. Some years ago, a reporter asked Jean-Marie Le Pen why Europe’s nationalsits haven’t got together. He gave them his big Celtic grin and say simply: “they hate each other!” What Farage’s presence in the US and his meddling in US politics illustrate is that the anti-EU faction in Europe is not composed of nationalists but of people who believe in US global hegemony. They believe in the subordination of their countries to the US. That’s the very antithesis of European nationalism.

    • Replies: @James Edward
  17. Joe Hide says:

    To James Kirkpatrict,
    Another insightful and highly readable article.
    I, like 100’s of millions of people (Through out the World) remain a strong Trump supporter because there are no real alternatives …YET!
    Intuitively we grasp that he is the visual, Tweet-able, and alternative internet-able representation of our hopes for a positive future for our loved ones.

  18. Erebus says:

     

    He is a man who created a political movement—and that movement expects results.

    Did he create the movement, or did it cteate him?

  19. iffen says:

    There was very little down-side to Trump for supporting Strange over Moore and politically it supposedly could have (has?) earned him some chips with the McCucks in the Republican Party. Only if Strange had won could it have dampened his appeal to his base and even then it would have been minimally damaging. Since Moore won anyway, Trump suffered zero damage with his base. Moore led in the polling out of the gate and to the finish so one could make the case that astute political types would have known that he was likely to win which translated to zero risk for Trump. There is the added benefit of a chance of sucking millions of dollars from Democrat donors into a losing cause on behalf of the Democrat candidate in the general election because Moore is supposedly a “flawed” general election candidate vis-à-vis Strange.

    One peculiarity that I do not understand is that the NRA came in extremely hard for Strange. The only explanation that I have is that it was an effort to curry favor with the McCucks.

    iffen says:

    September 27, 2017 at 12:59 am GMT

    Aw shucks!

    $30 million McCuck bucks suck hind teat in Sweet Home Alabama

    Hobbits Win! Hobbits Win! Hobbits Win!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  20. Trump is a Zionist controlled Trojan Horse and can never lead the populist movement and the sooner we all wake up to this the better. Men like Roy Moore are the hope of the basic Americans and not Trump or his twin sister Helliary.

  21. ghost says:

    Former editor, can’t help myself, there’s a missing verb: “harder for cuckservatives to Republican primary voters…”

    Harder to screw them?

    • Replies: @Copperhead
  22. our movement needs to reach out to white liberals by acknowledging the role that capitalism has played in the mass immigration scam….big business has used immigration to prop up the ponzi economy by increasing consumer demand…political correctness is the lubricant that keeps mass immigration machined oiled and running

  23. Realist says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “I can’t say Moore is exactly my kind of guy politically, but he may be oneof the hardest guys for the Deep State to bring into the fold. ”

    If they need to they will kill him.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  24. David says:

    I know it’s sort of trivial, but I would be grateful if the author would find a less obtrusive way to make citations. He’s so caught up with the prolix brackets that he forgets to put punctuation at the end of his sentences. And 20% of his text is something we have to regard for a moment to decide it is of little importance.

  25. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Dude, I used “C++” just as a fill in for ANY computer language. People who don’t know any computer language might mistake if for computer code of some sort; that’s what I’m getting at.

    You should not use #DEFINE statements like that willy-nilly anyway – very bad form, Mr. Smith.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  26. @Realist

    I’m sure they can, Realist. That kind of thing just brings everything into the light though. The Deep State tries to avoid the light.

    • Replies: @Realist
  27. @iffen

    Aw shucks!

    $30 million McCuck bucks suck hind teat in Sweet Home Alabama.

    Alliteration for the win!

    “In Birmingham they love the Senator, boo-hoo-hoo, now we all did what we could do.
    Now Watergate does not bother me… Does your conscience bother you? Tell the truth.”

    • Replies: @iffen
  28. Populism is good but Moore is a fundie moron who believes in Creationism.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Rurik
    , @Alden
  29. Svigor says:

    America may go in the direction of California, as the old saying goes, but White America is going in the direction of Alabama. The left is going to permanently lose flyover Whites, as their living spaces are given over to the Diversity Disaster.

    Trump also said Moore would have a hard time beating the Democrats because they would pour in so much money.

    Dude, it’s Alabama. They’re replacing Jeff Sessions, the Jewstablishment’s public enemy #1 in the Senate for the last however many elections. Trump needs to turn off Fox News, for fuck’s sake. Use a web browser, Trump, use a web browser. It’s how your voters have been getting their news for years now, and why you won the presidency FFS. Moore will beclown his Dem opponent. The GOP primary IS the election in Alabama. And Moore is OBVIOUSLY more popular with GOPers than Strange is. And Alabama is not some cuck state like Wisconsin where GOPers have to be cucks to win elections; quite the contrary.

    He even called Moore by the wrong first name

    In other words he talked no shit about Moore at all, just talked up Strange.

    But does Trump himself know this? Already, the Main Stream Media is trying to present this as a devastating defeat for the president personally. The New York Times kvetched about Moore’s social views and sneered that his victory “demonstrated in stark terms the limits of Mr. Trump’s clout”

    C’mon, man. Lying is what they do. That’s their way of making lemons into lemonade – hold the sugar.

    This wildly overstates the case. Trump had hedged his bets, suggesting at one point he made a “mistake” in endorsing Strange

    Obviously, if the worst thing you could think of was big-mouth Trump, famous for his insults, simply getting Moore’s name wrong.

    He also said he would “campaign like hell” for Moore if Moore won

    Trump likes campaigning better than governing, given his inability to magically transform DC into a patriotic American city, and he’s already been on a campaign footing for months, because it allows him to raise funds and hold rallies. So campaigning for Moore would be right up his alley, anyway.

    But Donald Trump, memes aside, is not a sovereign or just a symbol. He is a man who created a political movement—and that movement expects results.

    Trump simply tapped into a deep well that was already there, and building pressure. His real innovation was showing how extensive it is, and how yes, it CAN be tapped right under the noses of the Jewstablishment.

  30. Svigor says:

    Look people, it’s time to grasp some basic politics. The heart might have said Roy Moore but a leader can not think with his heart alone. Whatever happened in the GOP primary, Luther Strange was going to remain in the Senate until January. There are big, important votes coming up in Congress and Trump’s margin of error in the Senate is virtually non-existent. What sense does it make to alienate, even slight, a sitting Senator that has always voted your way and has never trashed you in public?

    Good point. Iffen is also right about the calculus (for Trump) surrounding this election.

    Moore’s victory means nothing. If Moore is elected it will change nothing. The Deep State rules….they will eat Moore for lunch.

    “Trump has given the Establishment Republicans their chance and they have failed him.”

    Trump has caved to the Establishment Republicans. He will never return.

    Wrong. If the Deep Shit were really so powerful, Hillary would be PotUS. If assassinating Senators were really so casual a thing for the Deep Shit, they wouldn’t bother manipulating the system at all, they’d just kill or disappear anyone who got in their way.

    Making things harder for the Deep Shit is obviously a good thing.

    As a man who supposedly highly values personal loyalty, does Trump really not understand that the men who pushed him to support Strange are also the men who will be first in line to vote for impeachment the moment it looks as though the leftist establishment has found a pretext that will succeed?

    You guys who all think the GOP, even the GOPe, is going to just jump right aboard the impeachment train are totally out to lunch.

    The movement better start paying attention to the thoughtcrime laws being passed right now under the banner of “hatespeech”. The first amendment isn’t just a nice concept. People in other countries are jailed for speaking their mind in the way Americans take for granted.

    I don’t take it for granted, but let’s be realistic; restrictions on speech will not survive Judicial review.

    Please, drop the Trump genuflection. Its reflects poorly on your intellect.

    It was a good observation, not genuflection.

    A carnival barking, crony-capitalist, serial bankrupt who has been thrice married is just not the guy around whom to rally – no matter how many fellow swamp creatures and SWJs he rankles.

    Yeah rallying around nothing is so much better.

    Farage’s presence is interesting. The essence of European nationalism is the distinction between “us” and “them”. English v Scottish, Castillian v Catalan, Ukrainian v Russian etc. You can’t therefore call yourself a “nationalist” and then let foreigners meddle in your country’s politics or yourself meddle in other countries’ politics. Nor can there be a sort of “nationalist intenational”. Some years ago, a reporter asked Jean-Marie Le Pen why Europe’s nationalsits haven’t got together. He gave them his big Celtic grin and say simply: “they hate each other!” What Farage’s presence in the US and his meddling in US politics illustrate is that the anti-EU faction in Europe is not composed of nationalists but of people who believe in US global hegemony. They believe in the subordination of their countries to the US. That’s the very antithesis of European nationalism.

    Yeah, only Nationalist Frogs and Limey’s hate each other. All the rest of Europe is kumbayah. :rolleyes:

    Trump is a Zionist controlled Trojan Horse and can never lead the populist movement and the sooner we all wake up to this the better. Men like Roy Moore are the hope of the basic Americans and not Trump or his twin sister Helliary.

    If Trump was really Zionist-controlled, Zionists wouldn’t hate him so much. That’s the whole point, they don’t think they can control him sufficiently. Hillary would’ve been eating out of their hands. Trump, on the other hand, told a room full of multi-millionaire Jews that they don’t like him because they can’t buy him. That’s Trump for you; just blurt out what everybody’s thinking but won’t say.

    our movement needs to reach out to white liberals by acknowledging the role that capitalism has played in the mass immigration scam….big business has used immigration to prop up the ponzi economy by increasing consumer demand…political correctness is the lubricant that keeps mass immigration machined oiled and running

    Like we don’t talk that up 24/7 already. :rolleyes:

  31. Svigor says:

    Populism is good but [irrelevant shit]

    FIFY.

  32. Svigor says:

    It’s not hard to envision a pol who is pro-Israel and hated by Zionists, because Zionists have a lot more on their agenda than just Israel; they’re all “leftists,” too. Which is why Zionists hate him.

  33. Avery says:
    @Priss Factor

    Maybe it takes someone like Moore to shake things up.
    A few more Moores would even be better.

    Founding American values and Christianity have been under deliberate, coordinated assault for decades in US. Christianity is the _only_ religion in US that can insulted and denigrated openly with impunity.

    Well past time to push back.

    • Replies: @Avery
  34. Svigor says:

    Who are these guys, who form the cadres of world class assassins that Konspiracy Kooks suppose Deep Shit have on speed dial? Israelis? Mossad? Because I just don’t see many Americans looking for that kind of work. It’s not a good job if you want to live to old age.

  35. jim jones says:

    Hasidic Jews attempt to censor an in-flight movie:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0RPhcGS3LI

  36. Svigor says:

    Deep Shitter: “your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to kill a United States Senator for really nasty reasons. He’s on the right, and you’re on the right, but never mind that, we both know the left is God. If it looks even a little like you’ll be caught, someone like you will be given a mission to kill you. If you are caught, you’ll be executed or spend the rest of your life in prison.”

    Spec ops guy (by definition, someone who has a lot on the ball, and can make a killing in the security biz): “no thanks. Excuse me, I need to go make an appointment with the New York Times.”

  37. Even before Trump was elected, I surveyed the twin efforts of subversion of the status quo by Trump and Bernie Sanders and said that no matter if both are unable to gain the nomination their candidacies have revealed the fact that something fundamentally opposed to business as usual was afoot.

    I also said that they wouldn’t be the last of their kind.

  38. @John Jeremiah Smith

    “Thus, America is now operated by the underlying, horrifically corrupt power structure, composed primarily of economic interests — the perpetually invoked “wealth and power”.

    So pretty much the same as it has been the last few decades? Got it… any other bright and powerful intellectual nuggets you want to drop today? You got booted off Takimag (with good reason) so now you post dumb shit here and attempt to antagonize. (As I have noted reading a few weeks of your drivel).

    Be happy you are allowed to crawl around here like gollum since most other places cannot countenance you.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  39. Svigor says:

    Deep Shitter: “tip of spear guy, I have these pics of you with an underage girl. You will now kill a US Senator for me, for really nasty reasons, despite the fact that you like him a lot more than you like me.”

    Spec ops guy: *kills Deep Shitter, takes his stuff, starts fire, crawls out window, departs for tax haven*

    I’m not saying this stuff can’t be done. I’m just saying it’s nowhere NEAR as easy or natural as you guys make it sound. There are several very important factors working very much against making it as easy or natural as you guys make it sound. The kind of guy who will go to a foreign country and kill someone he sees as an enemy is very different from the kind of guy who will murder one of his own country’s top politicians. There isn’t a lot of overlap there. The second kind of guy is more like a mob hitman, and they’re not exactly experts in making murders look like suicides, and the like.

  40. iffen says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    For What It’s Worth
    Buffalo Springfield, Stephen Stills

    There’s something happening here
    What it is ain’t exactly clear
    There’s a man with a [coin] over there
    Telling me I got to beware
    I think it’s time we stop, children, what’s that sound
    Everybody look what’s going down
    There’s battle lines being drawn

  41. Avery says:
    @Avery

    [Bernie Sanders attacks Christians]

  42. James Kirkpatrick says:

    And most importantly, it shows how the populist and nationalist movement is larger than Trump himself.

    I say:

    I said that back in November of 2015 when Trump came to the New Hampshire statehouse to file to run for the office of president in the New Hampshire primary. I gave my thoughts to a reporter for the Business Insider who was working on the video “Trump Nation” by Henry Blodgett.

    I said:

    “I think what Trump has tuned into — or plugged himself into — is even bigger than Trump. The system needs shaking up, and Trump is the man with the energy and dynamism to do it.”

    Watch and listen to the above quote at 6 minutes – 42 seconds:

  43. Rurik says:
    @Priss Factor

    Populism is good but Moore is a fundie moron who believes in Creationism.

    didn’t you just post this as evidence of the cultural apocalypse?

    remember ‘wrist icicle, ride dick bicycle’ ?

    I do

    are agnostics and libertarians going to man the levies of this tsunami of moral sewage?

    I’d like to think so, but I doubt it. Moore, for all his fundamentalism, has been in the breach. He’s seen up close and personal the nature of the Fiend, who demands Globohomoism.

    Who moore than Judge Moore has opposed the Globo-homo NWO moore?

    http://time.com/3701176/roy-moore-alabama-same-sex-marriage-supreme-court/

    maybe it takes Moore’s kind of religious integrity to resist the Globo-homo fudge train to Gomorrah

    at the very least, he is openly opposed to uber-cuck McConnell, and wow but that is a great start!

    this is a very good development. The GOP cucks are in disarray. The shitlibs are crunching even tighter into the fetal position. This is a good thing

    • Agree: Bill
    • Replies: @Alden
  44. @ghost

    Maybe Republican is the verb.
    “Turn around. I’m going to Republican you”

    • LOL: iffen
  45. @Svigor

    Now, Svigor, this comment of yours is one of your best ever. If only you’d have posted this at Steve’s blog.

    First Strange, next Corker. One can only hope that McConnell retires soon, which would help drain some of the edges around the swamp.

  46. @Achmed E. Newman

    Dude, I used “C++” just as a fill in for ANY computer language.

    LOL. D0000000000000D, no shit?

    DEFINEs? The very best part of the manly K&R original, unlike the sissified operator overloading and other conceptually- and lexicographically-silly fuckups of C++ (the computer language for high school girls).

  47. Realist says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “The Deep State tries to avoid the light.”

    Yes they do. But they are not going to let a Senator stop their agenda.

    I think there is a good possibility the Deep State or power elite were responsible for Kennedy’s assassination.

  48. Bill says:
    @jilles dykstra

    It’s sort of like “runaway grand jury.” That phrase basically means a grand jury which is operating as it is supposed to instead of merely being a pawn of the DA.

  49. Bill says:
    @Randal

    Yeah, this is a question for me, too. If you take “personnel is policy” as an axiom of management, then it is hard to understand Trump in a positive light given his personnel decisions. This Strange thing is just the latest iteration of the same baffling behavior.

  50. @Apex_Predator

    You’re trying too hard, Ape. But, it’s cool, the world makes allowances for you. Gosh, I don’t suppose you want me to run down the list of your aliases? ROFL.

    Just FYI — and this is funny for people who know the Internet and how to navigate it, which you quite obviously do not, steeped in your own ego as deeply as you are — I am using the exact same Disqus account on TakiMag that I created 7 years ago.

    You’re a dumbass. LOL.

    • Replies: @Bill
  51. If anyone thinks that Trump truly wanted Strange to win they are thinking wrongly.

  52. Bill says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    DEFINEs? The very best part of the manly K&R original, unlike the sissified operator overloading and other conceptually- and lexicographically-silly fuckups of C++ (the computer language for high school girls).

    I have strange new respect for you.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  53. Alden says:
    @Priss Factor

    So what if Moore believes in creationism? You and I believe in things that are not exactly mainstream.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  54. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    And here I thought that Priss was anti pornography.

  55. @Bill

    I have strange new respect for you.

    First, I learned 360 Assembler, then COBOL, then 8080 Assembler, then C, then Pascal (which sucks, but not like C++ sucks), then C++, at which time one had to ask, “Why fuck up a perfectly good programming language like C?”. Then people started talking portentously about how we had to see programming as “objects”. What a crock of shit. The argument can be made for interrupt-driven programming not being classically procedural, but OOP is crap.

    Statement of opinion completed.

  56. @Alden

    It’s not a matter of mainstream or not. It’s a matter of truth.

    If 1 person believes in the truth and 99 believes in falsehood, we need to go with truth.

    Creationism is stupid whether mainstream or alternative.

    It’s like Flat Earth theory.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Anonymous
  57. @Liberty Mike

    “A carnival barking, crony-capitalist, serial bankrupt who has been thrice married is just not the guy around whom to rally”

    “My enemy’s enemy is my friend”

    Charles Pewitt – that’s a great NYT link

    “Republicans are confronting an insurrection on the right that is angry enough to imperil their grip on Congress, and senior party strategists have concluded that the conservative base now loathes its leaders in Washington the same way it detested President Barack Obama.”

    Trump builded better than he knew.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  58. @Charles Pewitt

    From the attached GOP document in the NYT story

    https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4062092/Read-the-Memo-on-the-Implications-of-Alabama.pdf

    1. The Republican primary electorate is still angry.

    2. The Obamacare repeal fiasco is political poison. Even though only a tiny handful of Republicans blocked the Obamacare repeal effort, the defeat has poisoned the attitude of GOP primary voters toward congressional Republicans in general.

    3. Donald Trump is the dominant factor driving GOP voters. No other person, group or issue has the gravitational pull on Republican primary voters that Donald Trump commands. In addition, support for President Trump directly correlates with likelihood to vote. Further, Republican voters are becoming more attached to Trump than they are to the party.

    Interestingly the mighty NRA threw their weight behind Strange to no avail.

    Trump has the electoral power to transform the GOP, if he chooses to use it.

  59. @Michael Kenny

    “the anti-EU faction in Europe is not composed of nationalists but of people who believe in US global hegemony. They believe in the subordination of their countries to the US.”
    Or maybe you have it back-asswards. What if the method used to enforce US hegemony is by means of the EU? Couldn’t the imperialist US Inc machine have done more to effectively sabotage and undermine the EU by means other than through “nationalist” parties in Europe? Our problem is it’s very hard to know who to trust. As for Jean-Marie, what he said about the “nationalists” hating each other might be true, but such hatred need not get in the way of political and even military alliances.

  60. @YetAnotherAnon

    … the conservative base now loathesits leaders in Washington the same way it detested President Barack Obama.

    I really like that terminology these party “strategists” use. I’d write more about it, but I don’t want to be brought up on loathe-crime charges …. did 2 1/2 hard time in Folsom for a multiple-count detest-crime back in the day… seems the judge got all bent out of shape upon hearing that people just DETEST getting held up at gunpoint…. Johnny Cash sprung me out with a letter and song to the Governor … something about trains, pickup trucks, mamas, fried chicken, fishin’ and big cigars….

    Still, they taught us a lot of new things in there. It turns out there ain’t no good chain gang.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  61. @Charles Pewitt

    Let me do a double-take here: “Republicans are facing rebellions from Mississippi to Arizona that could imperil their grip on Congress….” Whoa, now, whaaaa?

    What does he mean by their? It seems to refer to these “Republicans”. But, but, the voters in these primaries are Republicans, and they will get this grip on Congress if their (Republican) guys win. So what’s the problem, again? That tweet is a blatant admission that the R-establishment doesn’t care at all what their voters want.

  62. @Svigor

    If the Deep Shit were really so powerful, Hillary would be PotUS. If assassinating Senators were really so casual a thing for the Deep Shit, they wouldn’t bother manipulating the system at all, they’d just kill or disappear anyone who got in their way.

    No, you don’t really get it, Svigor. The people are powerful – that doesn’t mean they are always smart. Look at all the stupid shit the CIA has done all over the world – it’s just games to them. These same people, including the NSA-type electronic-spy sector of the Deep State can have their fun internally now.

    I doubt they knew who was going to win that election, so what would their plan have been – kill Trump? Too far. Blackmail him – about what? Who would care this time around? Bribe him? He’s got a lot of money already. Those are the reasons I wanted to see him win – he just didn’t seem like the type to be beholden to anyone. Who knows what the threats are to him right now?

    Your comment below this with your imagined conversation with the sniper is also missing a part. The NSA has information on everybody. Why not blackmail the guy himself, not the assassin? That part didn’t make any sense to me. A little blackmail and a little bribery (carrot and stick together) can work wonders on these spineless turds in Washington, FS.

    There’d be no sense in an assassination until it really became necessary. I think in the case of JFK, there were a whole host of reasons it seemed necessary (the bankers did not want the US to make real money again – that’s just 1).

    You guys who all think the GOP, even the GOPe, is going to just jump right aboard the impeachment train are totally out to lunch.

    Did you see how hard they worked to stop him from getting the nomination and some to stop him from winning? Sure as hell they would – they’d come up with some legal-sounding reason that it must be done.

    I don’t take it for granted, but let’s be realistic; restrictions on speech will not survive Judicial review.

    OK, who’s being really naive here now? Judicial review nowadays means judges deciding whatever the hell their politics tell them to. Did you not notice some website being taken off the web for good? Where is spbdl? Give me a URL.

    Between those last two lines, it seems like you’re living in the 1970’s. It’s not a civil political climate anymore, Svigor.

  63. Dingo says: • Website

    Moore election wil help keep trump honest.

  64. @jilles dykstra

    13% of Germans voted for the only German party that doesn’t hate Germans.

    • Replies: @Avery
  65. Alden says:

    I didn’t know the SPLC was after Moore. Why? Because he put up the 10 commandments? Don’t Jews know the 10 commandments come from the Hebrew not the Christian part of the bible?

    I suppose Moore believes in all the tenets of his evangelical Christian religion as well. Good for him. Bet he even says Merry Christmas and thus offends atheists, pagans, wiccans, new age weirdos, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists tree worshippers communists and other unspeakable enemies of Whites and our civilization.
    I don’t know much about Moore, but my motto is the whoever liberals hate is my friend.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  66. Svigor says:

    Interestingly the mighty NRA threw their weight behind Strange to no avail.

    Trump has the electoral power to transform the GOP, if he chooses to use it.

    I am reminded of a line from Young Guns, something like, “Christ this country needs a hero.” The right is itching for a fight. Dying for a fight. But we lack leaders because the (heavily Jewish) oligarch class buys them all out from under us. Well, that’s not entirely fair; they use the stick, too, not just the carrot. If it was just the carrot, we’d have leaders. It’s the one-two punch of “take our money or we’ll run you out of politics” that really does the trick.

    DEFINEs? The very best part of the manly K&R original, unlike the sissified operator overloading and other conceptually- and lexicographically-silly fuckups of C++ (the computer language for high school girls).

    I see people talk trash on C++ now and then. I’m no coder, but I know C++ is the engine language for most AAA games. AAA games are far more serious, performance-wise, than the vast majority of commercial code. Is it just a coding thing where coders have to down-talk languages they don’t know or use? Or am I missing something? I know high school girls aren’t coding AAA games…

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  67. Svigor says:

    I am reminded of a line from Young Guns, something like, “Christ this country needs a hero.” The right is itching for a fight. Dying for a fight. But we lack leaders because the (heavily Jewish) oligarch class buys them all out from under us. Well, that’s not entirely fair; they use the stick, too, not just the carrot. If it was just the carrot, we’d have leaders. It’s the one-two punch of “take our money or we’ll run you out of politics” that really does the trick.

    Forgot my second paragraph: Trump inspires loyalty because he’s a fighter. That’s why the right loves him so much, apart from a few key policy choices. They want someone who will go in there and knock the left’s teeth out. Give them that and they’ll follow him into Hell.

  68. Alden says:
    @Priss Factor

    I know what creationism is. But I certainly don’t care if Moore or anyone else believes in it. Like the bible, it’s totally irrelevant to what is actually happening or anything Moore will do in the Senate.

  69. Avery says:
    @SimpleHandle

    Therefore, 87% of Germans voted for a German party that hates Germans (…and loves Islamist invaders).

    At least in America, about 50% Americans voted for a President that doesn’t hate America (….and has no love for Islamist invaders).

  70. Svigor says:

    Yojimbo, thanks, but I looked it over, and it seems like pretty standard Svigor fare to me. 🙂

  71. Rurik says:
    @Alden

    Bet he even says Merry Christmas and thus offends atheists, pagans, wiccans, new age weirdos, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists tree worshippers communists and other unspeakable enemies of Whites and our civilization.

    I don’t know of any atheists, pagans, wiccans, new age weirdos, Hindus, Buddhists tree worshippers or communists who’re bothered by someone saying Merry Christmas

    there is only one group that is bothered by that

  72. @jilles dykstra

    ZioNazi Social Scientists are working double time in each and every capital of the world that they control to reverse the national patriotic movements that is an anathema to their world domination through the destruction of Christianity, family values, and most of all, patriotism. Entire Zionists movements and its pillars are standing on destroying every Christian country and its national policies only to serve their Israeli evil plans to dominate and control world’s armies and economies by way of DECEPTION. Read the “Protocol of the Elders of Zions” and its sidekick “Odend Yinon” aka “Greater Israel Project” aka in the USA as Project for New American Century (PNAC). Keep the vigil and every country of the world must continue their march of independence from this diabolical evil doers of our planet earth that has taken over our governments, our economies, our military, and most of all, destroying our culture, history, heritage and our family values through sex, violence, false dreams of instant fame and money through music, pronotgarphy, destruction of family values a systematic slow death to Christianity. We must strengthen this march of liberty and freedom against the evil clutches of Zionist cabal and their cohorts in the midst!

  73. Something happens to them after they are sworn in, you know, after they swear to uphold the Constitution. A Judge, don’t expect too much if anything. A more sold out bunch doesn’t exist in this nation. Money talks, the e-mails, letters and phone calls, a lot of nodding of the head and then the back room deals. Democracy is, a form of slavery.

  74. polistra says:
    @jilles dykstra

    No, it’s not weird. Populism is a simple philosophy. It says that the government of Country X must serve the PEOPLE of Country X. The government of Country X should NOT serve Country Y or Z or A or B, and the government of Country X should NOT serve the interests of transnational banks or corporations or NGOs or financiers.

    The interests of the people aren’t always clear or unified, and there’s obviously no way to serve ALL of them at once…. but if you’re paying attention to them instead of those transnational entities, you are MORE LIKELY to benefit your own people.

  75. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    “Creationism is stupid whether mainstream or alternative.”

    And The Left’s belief in equality of outcome as opposed to opportunity is a complete refutation of evolutionary theory. When the pickings is slim, learn to be less picky.

  76. peterAUS says:
    @Svigor

    The right is itching for a fight. Dying for a fight. But we lack leaders because the (heavily Jewish) oligarch class buys them all out from under us. Well, that’s not entirely fair; they use the stick, too, not just the carrot. If it was just the carrot, we’d have leaders. It’s the one-two punch of “take our money or we’ll run you out of politics” that really does the trick.

    Let’s try to clarify this a bit.
    It’s been puzzling me for some time to be honest.

    This is how an “outsider” sees that:

    The Right is itching to fight and needs leaders. I get that.Any organized political …move….needs a leader/leadership.

    The same Right, I believe, does not like (understatement) media and oligarchs (Jewish or not).

    So…how can those, then “run a leader out of politics”?
    One would assume that more “they” try to run somebody he/she would get just more support? I really don’t get that.

    Care to explain, please?

    Actually, you know how it really looks like …from “outsider” point of view, again?

    That Right does NOT want to fight. It talks a bit, but fight is simply out of question.
    So…any reason is more than welcome no to do any fighting.

    Just a feeling.

    Now, before “right guys” start foaming at mouth a bit of comparison.
    Imagine Estonian people wanting independence from Soviets/Russians/whatever. And official state propaganda machine, plus all Warsaw Pact media, simply doing their best to run those Estonian leaders out of politics……..
    Funny eh?

    • Replies: @iffen
  77. iffen says:
    @peterAUS

    It is binary. The leader and the led meld and create each other. The “perfect” combination is rare.

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