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There foam’d rebellious Logic, gagg’d and bound;
There, stript, fair Rhetoric languish’d on the ground;
His blunted arms by Sophistry are borne,
And shameless Billingsgate her robes adorn,
Morality, by her false guardians drawn,
Chicane in furs, and Casuistry in lawn,
Gasps, as they straiten at each end the cord,
And dies when Dulness gives her Page the word.

—Pope

A great many people have been outraged this week by the so-called anti-diversity memo “Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber,” written by software engineer James Damore, who has been fired from Google. The work was anonymous, but somehow or other the author was identified, and since in our time the only idol greater than resentment is lucre, Damore has joined an increasing number of people from the worlds of business and academia to be sacrificed at the altar of diversity. In an unsurprising public relations move, Google has succeeded in saving some face by appeasing the partisans of political correctness and of so-called equality. Meanwhile, those who don’t subscribe to the progressive delusion may feel more anxious at the prospect of failing to play the coward’s game correctly. Can one sneeze these days without offending the HR department?

Google CEO Sundar Pichai, in a memo laden with incoherence and hypocrisy, says that

we strongly support the right of Googlers to express themselves, and much of what was in that memo is fair to debate, regardless of whether a vast majority of Googlers disagree with it. However, portions of the memo violate our Code of Conduct and cross the line by advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace. Our job is to build great products for users that make a difference in their lives. To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not OK. It is contrary to our basic values and our Code of Conduct, which expects “each Googler to do their utmost to create a workplace culture that is free of harassment, intimidation, bias and unlawful discrimination.”

The memo has clearly impacted our co-workers, some of whom are hurting and feel judged based on their gender. Our co-workers shouldn’t have to worry that each time they open their mouths to speak in a meeting, they have to prove that they are not like the memo states, being “agreeable” rather than “assertive,” showing a “lower stress tolerance,” or being “neurotic.”

At the same time, there are co-workers who are questioning whether they can safely express their views in the workplace (especially those with a minority viewpoint). They too feel under threat, and that is also not OK. People must feel free to express dissent. So to be clear again, many points raised in the memo—such as the portions criticizing Google’s trainings, questioning the role of ideology in the workplace, and debating whether programs for women and underserved groups are sufficiently open to all—are important topics. The author had a right to express their views on those topics—we encourage an environment in which people can do this and it remains our policy to not take action against anyone for prompting these discussions.

What were those “harmful gender stereotypes,” so “offensive” to the good team members at Google? Let’s take a look at the first paragraph of the memo that has so many people worried about the white patriarchal obstacle that, now as ever, stands cruelly in the progressive path.

I value diversity and inclusion, am not denying that sexism exists, and don’t endorse using stereotypes. When addressing the gap in representation in the population, we need to look at population level differences in distributions. If we can’t have an honest discussion about this, then we can never truly solve the problem. Psychological safety is built on mutual respect and acceptance, but unfortunately our culture of shaming and misrepresentation is disrespectful and unaccepting of anyone outside its echo chamber. Despite what the public response seems to have been, I’ve gotten many personal messages from fellow Googlers expressing their gratitude for bringing up these very important issues which they agree with but would never have the courage to say or defend because of our shaming culture and the possibility of being fired. This needs to change.

Surely no unbiased reader can fail to find Damore’s words eminently reasonable. Though recently fired, the man is no enemy of diversity and inclusion, nor does he say sexism is not a real problem. There is nothing here (or elsewhere in the memo) to suggest he is not fair-minded. Indeed, if you read his memo, you will surely see—so long, again, as you are not biased—that as people go, Damore is exceptionally fair in his perceptions and reasoning, though it is well to remember Emerson’s maxim: “To be great is to be misunderstood.” Damore is concerned to give some nuance to understanding the issues since, after all, it is not prima facie evident that men and women are utterly the same; with the result that, where a corporation’s representation of gender does not wholly reflect the national population, sexism is present by definition. The crucial phrase is “differences in distribution.” Though feminists, progressives and Leftists generally are keen to deny it, men and women are not mere blank slates on which the “unequal” environment imprints its ink; we should not assume as a matter of course that something is awry if the workplace reflects—as it inevitably must—those gender differences which we all seem to notice the moment we leave it.

Neuroscientist Debra W. Soh, writing at Quillette, observes that

within the field of neuroscience, sex differences between women and men—when it comes to brain structure and function and associated differences in personality and occupational preferences—are understood to be true, because the evidence for them (thousands of studies) is strong. This is not information that’s considered controversial or up for debate; if you tried to argue otherwise, or for purely social influences, you’d be laughed at.

Sex researchers recognize that these differences are not inherently supportive of sexism or stratifying opportunities based on sex. It is only because a group of individuals have chosen to interpret them that way, and to subsequently deny the science around them, that we have to have this conversation at a public level. Some of these ideas have been published in neuroscientific journals—despite having faulty study methodology—because they’ve been deemed socially pleasing and “progressive.” As a result, there’s so much misinformation out there now that people genuinely don’t know what to believe.

Also at Quillette, eminent evolutionary psychologist Geoffrey Miller remarks that “almost all of the Google memo’s empirical claims are scientifically accurate. Moreover, they are stated quite carefully and dispassionately. Its key claims about sex differences are especially well-supported by large volumes of research across species, cultures, and history.”

Steven Pinker himself—he of the very solid liberal credentials—has published much rigorous work on natural gender differences, in both intelligence and personality traits. Here he is on YouTube, giving a talk which might be used to support James Damore’s case:

Note, what is so revealing, that Pinker takes care to appease the dogmatic academic crowd via the usual trite and simplistic reduction of human history to patriarchal oppression, lest, like Ibsen’s Dr. Stockmann, he be thought an enemy of the people. It can’t be that man simply found himself in a harsh world in which his superior brute strength was an immense advantage. It can’t be that a severe division of labor was for most of history inevitable for the sexes. Like the Jews, man has always been behind the scenes, conspiring to oppress everyone. Well, at least Pinker was prudent. After all, those aggressive, broad-shouldered feminists have been known to body slam many an hysterically logical speaker.

Like Geoffrey Miller’s, Pinker’s work helps us to see better what ordinary people already know well enough from everyday life (and which, thankfully for them, they feel no need to deny, outside of the increasingly touchy workplace, anyway): that men and women are indeed different; nor is it obvious, in a sane world, why that should be such a scandal. For these differences, qua differences, are value neutral. My working-class mother, who never finished high school, is not obviously inferior as a person to Heather MacDonald, despite my own admiration for that excellent and courageous scholar-journalist.

It is well-established by Pinker and other scientists that women have higher IQs on average, while men preponderate the extremes of brilliance and dullness. Many if not most Google employees surely do have exceptionally high IQs. That men should so excel at the Google corporation—as they do at so many other things at the highest level—reflects Nature itself and is consistent with a massive amount of empirical findings. It is also consistent with many traditional stereotypes, for the most part. The psychologist Lee Jusim, among others, has done excellent work on the overwhelming accuracy (though typically, much suppressed) of stereotypes. If you want to see a humorous example of the truth of stereotypes, see the exceedingly emotional reactions by the female Google employees—who have made their disgust well-known on Twitter—that Pichai describes in the second paragraph where I quote him above. It is reported that many female Google employees stayed home from work on Monday, triggered into melancholy by Damore’s truthful words. Tragically, the feminist quilting bee soon degenerated into a wild intersectional tizzy, the rotund blue and pink-haired ladies of various races and gender identities squabbling over whose cat should first be allowed to peck at Damore’s soon to be flayed carcass. Looking at the photos and social media accounts of Google’s Diversity-rabble, one is struck by how stereotypical they are; virtually everyone looks fresh from a Judith Butler conference at Bryn Mawr college: trans-this, queer-that, communist, ad nauseam. Defective specimens of divorce culture, therapy culture, and human folly and degeneration generally. Persons who, hardly ever having been around traditional masculinity, cannot but misunderstand it, and with the all-too-human fear and hatred of the unknown. Perusing pictures of Google CEO Sundar Pichai, one perceives, quite palpably, a typical skinny, weak, effete twenty-first century Last Man: born to take orders from nasty women and resentment-pipers generally

Gender differences may be bad news for Feminist Dogma, yet as Pinker says in his talk, the truth cannot be sexist, nor should it be “harmful”—to an adult mind, at least. Of course, like Lawrence Summers, who was obliged to step down from the Harvard Presidency a while back for not going along with Feminist Dogma, Pinker has caught fire from feminists—increasingly nasty women, as it were. Sundar Pichai, like our feminists, says all the right things about diversity and the like, but when it comes to the reality of one gender being better, on average, at, say, engineering, he goes in for cant about “harmful gender stereotypes.” If, though, anybody was to say, what there is also much evidence to support, that women, on average, are better at language skills than men, nobody would be troubled. Such hypocritical intolerance by the partisans of tolerance should be expected to continue apace, unless we others make a principled stand. Looking at the academy and at our intellectuals in general, we may wonder how so many people can manage to walk upright without a spine. Alas, more vital work for the deplorables.

The Diversity Idol is confused and inherently self-defeating. As Debra W. Soh puts it in the The Globe and Mail,

research has shown that cultures with greater gender equity have larger sex differences when it comes to job preferences, because in these societies, people are free to choose their occupations based on what they enjoy.

As the memo suggests, seeking to fulfill a 50-per-cent quota of women in STEM is unrealistic. As gender equity continues to improve in developing societies, we should expect to see this gender gap widen.

The Diversity Idol also reeks of hypocrisy. Where are all the calls for more women in bricklaying and coal mining, fields in which there are hardly any women?

As for women’s relative lack of leadership positions, at Google and elsewhere, much the best explanation is that by Jordan Peterson. The issue is not so much lack of ability as (sensible) lack of interest. Why, Peterson asks, should women want anything to do with what is commonly called leadership, seeing as it is generally a quite mad and foolish affair (endless work and stress, all for wealth that does not make happy)? Women’s relative lack of interest in so-called leadership—which ultimately, today as yesterday, amounts in the main to men vying to outdo one another in order to win the favor of women in the sexual marketplace—signifies their greater good sense, which certainly is of a piece with their greater psychological and emotional discernment generally, and quite a long way from man’s lunatic competitiveness and zeal for mammon. It is well to reflect on just what women are really missing out on by not exercising the power that men do, all in all. Is it a power worth having, most of the time? Do we not find our highest good when we are free to pursue that which has inherent value? Then too, there is the reality, hardly recognized in our time, that, as G.K. Chesterton put it, “feminism is mixed up with a muddled idea that women are free when they serve their employers but slaves when they help their husbands.” For my own part, though an awful cook, I should rather be a house husband at home tending to my children than live a professional death-in-life at some touchy, humorless office.

In our status-obsessed society, there are constant gripes about how women are “excluded” from exercising power in the workplace. Meanwhile nobody says anything about the enormous psycho-biological power women possess simply by virtue of being women. This power, of course, is essentially determined by a woman’s attractiveness, which is closely associated with youth and good health. No surprise, then, that women all over the world are forever trying to appear as attractive as possible, to the cost of billions every year. Such power, though inevitably prevalent in the workplace itself, far transcends it: it is a law of Nature itself, and indeed one of the strongest. As noted above, the endless male struggle for status mostly comes down to being able to obtain a desirable woman.

Today we see countless attractive young women spending vast amounts of time uploading photos of themselves on social media. How many wish to be a star! Hence that increasingly common phenomenon the duck face, which some might take for a kind of strange medical affliction: “Pucker up,” thinks the generic young beauty in her vanity; “everybody’s watching!” Like women on the many dating websites and apps, these social media darlings find that they can hardly keep up with all the male attention—surely an intoxicating pleasure, although doubtless often corrupting. No matter their intentions, and whether they are aware of it or not, such women are extremely powerful. The notion that a woman like Emily Ratajkowski is “oppressed” because of her “objectification” is absurd beyond description. Hers is a most willful objection; there is massive power in it; and even if the stunner was not affluent through her modeling and other endeavors, she would still not have to work: countess men would get in line to provide for her, now as ever. On the other hand, take away Bill Gates’ billions, and how many women would even give that unattractive, uncharming fellow the time of day?

Google and other corporations, to maximize their profits, feel obliged to keep the diversity crowd happy. Yet there is, ironically, nothing the diversity crowd opposes more than diversity itself. To see this, consider that to effect “social justice,” we must all become thesame, like a mad God who chooses to bungle His creation. For, so long as I differ from you in some way or other, it will always be possible to make a value judgment—of inferiority, of superiority, or of whatever—concerning that difference. And this would be true even if everyone had the same amount of money, even if there were no private property, and so on. For the most part, the social justice crowd is not motivated by benevolent justice, but by wicked resentment: that is why it wants not universal economic sufficiency (which I strongly support, insofar as it is achievable), but equality of outcome; with the result that comparative value judgment will be impossible.

Now equality of outcome derives from human psychology, from the permanent truth that there’s nothing we children of pride detest more than the thought: “That person is better than me.” Seeing other people perceive that superiority induces the same burning, violent envy, like a child who wants to destroy his parent’s favored sibling. Indeed, from childhood on, man—the esteeming animal—defines himself in terms of competition, of rank, of hierarchy. No artist or athlete wants to be equal to another. Not every person, waxing indignant about inequality, wants to make the same income as every neighbor; very few do, in fact. Like suffering and death, this extreme competiveness is a law of Nature, from which we merely issue. Try to get rid of it, and see what mediocrity, corruption and degeneration follow. I say, look around you.

Biographical note: Christopher DeGroot is a writer and independent scholar in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

 
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  1. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    regardless of whether a vast majority of Googlers disagree with it.

    Pichai is is an idiot. If a vast majority of “Googlers” disagreed with Damore’s memorandum, how come most oppose his firing.

    If Google’s board wishes to avoid massive damage to the company, they should fire Pichai without delay on the grounds of his dishonesty and stupidity.

    But the won’t.

    Good.

    Let the manipulative, globalist, scum suffer massive damage to their credibility: credibility they do not deserve.

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    • Replies: @Carlton Meyer
    What about mentoring? What about caring for employees? If leadership learned of something they deem inappropriate, they should counsel the young man and only fire someone who refuses to adjust. This firing squad tactic should never be used by an organization that truly cares about people. I'd like to see a union movement at google to protect workers from such a-holes. Hopefully, the board will remove this CEO who proved himself incompetent and heartless. This issue is not about gender differences, but corporate arrogance.
    , @Jason Liu
    There's no way Pichai wrote that thing himself. It sounds like boilerplate straight out of HR and PR.
    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    Guess you need to brand Pichai an idiot and a dumbass (in one of your later comments), though he is currently number one at the behemoth in the silicon valley while you're number one in this comment section... I can see that you're really his equal, Dumbbell!
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  2. According to Black Pigeon Speaks, the problem is ideology.

    According to other sources, it’s less about ideology than office politics and jostling for position.

    There are purists who really believe the ideology they espouse.
    There are opportunists who merely manipulate ideology for power. They seem passionate but they are really about power. Oppuritans.

    I think Damore’s real ‘crime’ was not so much what he prescribed. It is what he described as the current reality at Google.

    Personally, what do we care? Google hates our side? So, we should join with ‘SJW’ to force Google to hire tons of blacks, lesbians, Muslims, and other such. Let Google hire third-rate talent and go to hell.

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  3. @CanSpeccy

    regardless of whether a vast majority of Googlers disagree with it.
     
    Pichai is is an idiot. If a vast majority of "Googlers" disagreed with Damore's memorandum, how come most oppose his firing.

    If Google's board wishes to avoid massive damage to the company, they should fire Pichai without delay on the grounds of his dishonesty and stupidity.

    But the won't.

    Good.

    Let the manipulative, globalist, scum suffer massive damage to their credibility: credibility they do not deserve.

    What about mentoring? What about caring for employees? If leadership learned of something they deem inappropriate, they should counsel the young man and only fire someone who refuses to adjust. This firing squad tactic should never be used by an organization that truly cares about people. I’d like to see a union movement at google to protect workers from such a-holes. Hopefully, the board will remove this CEO who proved himself incompetent and heartless. This issue is not about gender differences, but corporate arrogance.

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    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    I tried hitting the agree button but it didn't work. Anyhow, I agree.

    But destroying unions, not creating them, is among the goals of globalization: global wage arbitrage destroys the bargaining power of workers in the West. Without bargaining power, the appeal of the union movement dies. Without the union movement and its economic and political clout, the working people of the West become vulnerable to genocide.

    Western elites have always hated working people. As Benjamin Disreali wrote in the 1845 novel Sybil, England is divided into:

    “Two nations; between whom there is no intercourse and no sympathy; who are as ignorant of each other’s habits, thoughts, and feelings, as if they were dwellers in different zones, or inhabitants of different planets; who are formed by a different breeding, are fed by a different food, are ordered by different manners, and are not governed by the same laws.” “You speak of — ”said Egremont, hesitantly. “ THE RICH AND THE POOR.”
     
    Before WWII, the eugenics movement sought ways to rid the Western nations of the unproductive and degenerate lower orders. Belief in the efficacy of gas chambers was not confined to Germany. But Germany gave gas chammbers a bad name. Moreover, the post-war boom created the need for a mass workforce to manufacture cars, household appliances, etc., while the mass workforce created the demand that kept the factories busy.

    But now the Western workforce is largely redundant, offshore sweatshop labor and cheap immigrant labor being cheaper. Thus the sentence of death has been declared on the European and American working class. Without a Fuhrer willing and able to beat the crap out of the Treason class, it's game over for Western civilization and the peoples who created it.
  4. I have just staggered through Pepe Escobar on the Goolag Deep Swamp Memo and beg to be excused from more of the same, or similar.

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  5. Christopher Lasch, ‘The Culture of Narcissism, American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectations’, 1979, 1980, London
    already argues that truth does not matter any more.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Thanks for referencing this book. Read it when it was first published. As such it served as my introduction to Lasch, who was a very prescient thinker (read "The True and Only Heaven"). And here's what's disturbing: Lasch, as I recall, pointed out that narcissism is in fact a mental disorder which is considered to be so deep-seated as to be impossible to cure.
  6. TG says:

    The field of Optometry is increasingly dominated by women. I have served on the admissions committee for an optometry school, and we’d like a better balance between male and female, but if most of the best applicants are female, well that’s that and nobody whines. Many of these applicants are quite up-front about choosing optometry because it offers a better work-life balance than, say, ophthalmic surgery, and again, so what?

    New enrollment in US medical schools is now 50/50 between men and women, and will likely become majority female before too long. Where is the angst?

    And I remind you that, on average, people with degrees in medicine and optometry have significantly larger salaries than people with degrees in engineering, and significantly longer careers. On balance, I’d not say that professional women are doing all that bad. It’s just that, for whatever reasons, the smart women tend to choose medicine over engineering. I fail to see a problem here.

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    • Replies: @epebble
    we’d like a better balance between male and female

    Why? What harm do you see if it is 100% female? Nursing, till recently, has been nearly 100% female and no one objects. Construction work is nearly 100% male and no one objects.
  7. The Pope, Emerson an Chesterton quotes are great. Especially the Pope-quote.
    Thanks for putting Pinker, Peterson and Soh at the right place in the big picture.

    These lines are a little bit misleading, because siblings rivlary is nothing exclusively boyish. There are women-athletes who want to win too, aren’t there?

    Seeing other people perceive that superiority induces the same burning, violent envy, like a child who wants to destroy his parent’s favored sibling. Indeed, from childhood on, man—the esteeming animal—defines himself in terms of competition, of rank, of hierarchy. No artist or athlete wants to be equal to another. Not every person, waxing indignant about inequality, wants to make the same income as every neighbor; very few do, in fact.

    ((Article is very good – if a tad long, maybe.))

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  8. Damone is somebody’s shill. Nobody with two functioning brain cells would publish that memo in that environment without some expectation of losing his job; either he is looking for fame and a payout, or he is simply insane.

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    • Replies: @utu
    This occurred to me as well. Now we can look how he is going to be used. Certainly alt-right sites try to get some mileage out of him. Most likely they will drop him once they squeeze out all the juice. I kind of feel sorry for the guy.

    I do not think that this event is going to get much traction. It will not snowball in any movement.
    , @CanSpeccy

    Damone [sic] is somebody’s shill.
     
    .So exposing the reality of liberal-leftist bigotry, bullying and discrimination is proof that you're "sombody's shill"? What kind of bullshit argument is that?

    Nobody with two functioning brain cells would publish that memo in that environment without some expectation of losing his job; either he is looking for fame and a payout, or he is simply insane.
     
    Which reveals what a scoundrel mentality you have. Exposing corruption, bigotry, and manipulation of the public mind through the control of information is something you think a sane person would do, only for fame or money.

    The idea of blowing the whistle on a bunch of dirty manipulators, bigots, bullies and scumbags who routinely misdirect the public for both political ends or to boost profits because you no longer wish to work with them, or because you think the public should know what such people are doing, or because you believe in propagating truth not using the most powerful tools for the enlightenment of humanity for the purpose of pushing some grotesque leftist agenda is, apparently, to a moral numbskull such as yourself, unintelligible.

    What a sick society America has become, that it can produce individuals who not only think as you do, but who think anyone who thinks otherwise is insane.

    But the cherry on the cake is that Damore did not blow the whistle on anyone. He merely circulated a memorandum among what Pichai, Google's idiot savant CEO, calls "Googlers". It was Pichai, confirming his own idiocy, who blew the whistle on himself by firing Damore.

    What delicious irony. The shit CEO of the dirty search engine company, dicked himself.
    , @peterAUS
    You know, he could've been "true believer" in all that "free speech" bullshit.
    I'll give that, say, 30 %.

    70 % I'd go for daredevil/fame move.
    With the "true believer" twist.
    Because he probably did figure out he'd be fired; I somehow suspect, though, that he really didn't think through options from then on.
    It would be interesting to see what kind of paid employment he'd land soon.
    Or later.
    Or never.
    , @JustJeff
    Well obviously. No one in 2017 is stupid enough to say this stuff out loud in a corporate environment and not know they'll get fired. Maybe he just had a Falling Down moment.
    , @Liza
    I found this today. Right or wrong, I do not know. Here is one sentence from the article:

    It’s the perfect right/left tempest-in-a-teapot that keeps Americans combating each other instead of focused on the people controlling the narrative. Obviously, important issues are at stake in this dispute, but the end result is to direct the conversation into mere combat in an arena in which no debate will upset the social engineering goals.

    http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2017/08/the-james-damore-psy-op/
  9. Zogby says:

    How come noone is discussing the role that Pinchai is himself a product of affirmitive action plays in this? Do people really believe an Indian immigrant would serve as CEO of Google, as CEO of Microsoft if not for affirmitive action? Being CEO is not an engineering position. There are plenty of native-born mainstream Americans that could do these jobs. Most large American companies would never give the job of CEO to an immigrant from a 3rd-world country. Some of the business men that founded large companies may be immigrants, but it’s different if they built the company. They’re in control. Pinchai is just a hired hand, like Damore was.

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  10. Njguy73 says:

    “Science is an odd sort of pursuit, way off the beaten track of human intellection…There were theologians and politicians long, long, long before there were scientists. In dark moments I am inclined to think the former will still be with us long after the latter have been eliminated, probably via mass lynching…Scientists themselves tend to forget this because they associate mainly with other scientists.”

    John Derbyshire, 2007

    http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Religion/religionandpolitics.html

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  11. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “It is well-established by Pinker and other scientists that women have higher IQs on average, while men preponderate the extremes of brilliance and dullness.”

    First time I’m hearing that claim. I’ve heard about the flatter, wider Bell Curve for men but the average IQ was either the same or even higher. That’s also more logical since men need higher IQs to both prove themselves as providers and charm the pants off their mates. Women love intelligence + health in their mates while men look for beauty + health. A highly stratified, unequal and un-meritocratic (old money, castes or arranged marriages) system can distort the choices quite a bit but that’s the baseline.

    This is also interesting if true:

    Recent research using DNA analysis answered this question about two years ago. Today’s human population is descended from twice as many women as men.

    I think this difference is the single most underappreciated fact about gender. To get that kind of difference, you had to have something like, throughout the entire history of the human race, maybe 80% of women but only 40% of men reproduced.

    https://archive.is/9F5rK

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    • Replies: @GourmetDan

    I’ve heard about the flatter, wider Bell Curve for men but the average IQ was either the same or even higher. That’s also more logical since men need higher IQs to both prove themselves as providers and charm the pants off their mates.
     
    Or... to put it another way... women 'need' lower IQs in order to believe that crap... lol
    , @Marshall Lentini
    "This is also interesting if true:"

    Of course it is. Males of most species have significantly lower reproductive success. In ours, war and hierarchy (i.e. competitive exclusion) ensured sexual monopolies by fewer men. Same as Tinder stats really.
  12. Rurik says:

    from the inimitable Château

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/

    (I find it pleasantly serendipitous that the Château has appropriated the imminently apropos idiom Globohomo, apparently usurped from the Unz very own Priss ; )

    memes it seems that resonate, resonate

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  13. utu says:
    @The Alarmist
    Damone is somebody's shill. Nobody with two functioning brain cells would publish that memo in that environment without some expectation of losing his job; either he is looking for fame and a payout, or he is simply insane.

    This occurred to me as well. Now we can look how he is going to be used. Certainly alt-right sites try to get some mileage out of him. Most likely they will drop him once they squeeze out all the juice. I kind of feel sorry for the guy.

    I do not think that this event is going to get much traction. It will not snowball in any movement.

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  14. “It is well-established by Pinker and other scientists that women have higher IQs on average, while men preponderate the extremes of brilliance and dullness.”

    The statement is false and its origin is a mystery to me. Lynn has suggested that the average male IQ is slightly higher, but that’s about it, as far as I know. Men and women have different profiles, so the total score would depend on how subtests are weighted, as well as the age of the sample (girls mature earlier than boys, and this would bias some results).

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  15. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @The Alarmist
    Damone is somebody's shill. Nobody with two functioning brain cells would publish that memo in that environment without some expectation of losing his job; either he is looking for fame and a payout, or he is simply insane.

    Damone [sic] is somebody’s shill.

    .So exposing the reality of liberal-leftist bigotry, bullying and discrimination is proof that you’re “sombody’s shill”? What kind of bullshit argument is that?

    Nobody with two functioning brain cells would publish that memo in that environment without some expectation of losing his job; either he is looking for fame and a payout, or he is simply insane.

    Which reveals what a scoundrel mentality you have. Exposing corruption, bigotry, and manipulation of the public mind through the control of information is something you think a sane person would do, only for fame or money.

    The idea of blowing the whistle on a bunch of dirty manipulators, bigots, bullies and scumbags who routinely misdirect the public for both political ends or to boost profits because you no longer wish to work with them, or because you think the public should know what such people are doing, or because you believe in propagating truth not using the most powerful tools for the enlightenment of humanity for the purpose of pushing some grotesque leftist agenda is, apparently, to a moral numbskull such as yourself, unintelligible.

    What a sick society America has become, that it can produce individuals who not only think as you do, but who think anyone who thinks otherwise is insane.

    But the cherry on the cake is that Damore did not blow the whistle on anyone. He merely circulated a memorandum among what Pichai, Google’s idiot savant CEO, calls “Googlers”. It was Pichai, confirming his own idiocy, who blew the whistle on himself by firing Damore.

    What delicious irony. The shit CEO of the dirty search engine company, dicked himself.

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    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    I admit to being a scoundrel and hypocrite ... the pay is much better than sticking to my principles. I have other ways to resist other than dying on some hill. Think of Patton and making the other bas***d due for his country.
    , @Sam Shama
    Hello CanSpeccy:

    Here collected are a few thoughts. Like your opinion on these:

    1. Pichai made a terrible error of judgement in sacking Damore, for he brought upon himself an unwanted spotlight, which reveals Google's infestation by the SJW brigands.

    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    3. Men are 80% of Google's workforce, which suggests Google's hiring policies are not skewed by PC

    4. Google, whatever one may conclude regarding their ultimate motives [controlloing social thought etc] has not lagged behind anyone in pushing the technological frontiers.

    5. Google has delivered for its stockholders.

    6. Google is not under any legal requirement to be the stage upon which employees can advertise and debate their sociological viewpoints. Many companies explicitly forbid political or social activism.

    7. Google and FB etc need to be broken up by the Anti-trust arm of the government.

  16. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @jilles dykstra
    Christopher Lasch, 'The Culture of Narcissism, American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectations', 1979, 1980, London
    already argues that truth does not matter any more.

    Thanks for referencing this book. Read it when it was first published. As such it served as my introduction to Lasch, who was a very prescient thinker (read “The True and Only Heaven”). And here’s what’s disturbing: Lasch, as I recall, pointed out that narcissism is in fact a mental disorder which is considered to be so deep-seated as to be impossible to cure.

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  17. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    What the Damore incident proves, is that Internet search is too important to leave to Internet search companies. Governments should require search engine companies providing service within their territory to provide the national library with unrestricted, unfiltered access to the search provider’s database. By thus creating a national data resource, governments would be making a demand on search companies analogous to the obligation they already place upon publishers to provide hard copies and digital copies of every book that they publish.

    Such a national data resource would allow the US Library of Congress and other national libraries to develop their own publicly accessible search facilities, based not on one, but on all search engine databases. Because maintaining and interrogating search engine databases consumes resources, the provision of database access to public libraries should be compensated at rates allowing a reasonable return on investment to the original database owners. In turn, national libraries should sell access to commercial search engines that offer specialized search algorithms.

    By these means, the power of corporations such as Google to exert undue influence over public access to information would be broken, and the range of data available to the public and the means by which it is accessed would be greatly enhanced.

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    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    Agree entirely, with the proviso that public libraries thus endowed with data, treat the issue of privacy with utmost care.
    , @willieskull68
    Was that "governments should provide"?

    Wow, and UNZ no less
  18. Jason Liu says:
    @CanSpeccy

    regardless of whether a vast majority of Googlers disagree with it.
     
    Pichai is is an idiot. If a vast majority of "Googlers" disagreed with Damore's memorandum, how come most oppose his firing.

    If Google's board wishes to avoid massive damage to the company, they should fire Pichai without delay on the grounds of his dishonesty and stupidity.

    But the won't.

    Good.

    Let the manipulative, globalist, scum suffer massive damage to their credibility: credibility they do not deserve.

    There’s no way Pichai wrote that thing himself. It sounds like boilerplate straight out of HR and PR.

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    • Replies: @Clark Westwood

    There’s no way Pichai wrote that thing himself. It sounds like boilerplate straight out of HR and PR.
     
    And let's not overlook the valuable contributions made by the legal department!
    , @CanSpeccy

    There’s no way Pichai wrote that thing himself.
     
    What kind of a CEO allows some faceless bureaucrat to speak for him in a matter bound to create a storm?

    And if that's not Pichai's voice, why has he not withdrawn the statement, apologized to Damore, and asked him to return to Google?

    Pichai has to be a leadership dumbass.
    , @Logan
    That's not necessarily boilerplate. Sadly, it's a good representation of how these people "think."

    Perhaps they have boilerplated minds or souls.
  19. Jason Liu says:

    In other words, western academia is ideologically compromised and should not be taken as credible. Especially not in the humanities, or anything having to do with identity.

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    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @CanSpeccy

    western academia is ideologically compromised and should not be taken as credible. Especially not in the humanities
     
    It's not just the humanities. You must have heard of Tim Hunt, a scientist, an FRS, a Nobel Laureate, booted from University College London, humiliated by the President of the Royal Society with whom he shared the Nobel Prize. For what? A dumb joke that could have offended no one with a normal brain:

    Tim Hunt, the Kind, Unworldly Nobel-Prize-Winner, Brought Down By a Report of Disputed Veracity By a Twittering, Anglophobic, Black-Privileged, Resumé-padding, Lecturer in Journalism and the Lies of Professor Michael Arthur, Provost of University College London, a Man Unable to Acknowledge an Error of Judgment, and Under the Sway of the Odious Morality of a Stuffed Corpse

    The "odious morality of a stuffed corpse," is of course that of Jeremy Bentham, whose stuffed corpse it is brought out to sit at the head of the table during University College London's Board Meetings. He stated his fundamental and contemptible moral principle thus:

    The greatest happiness of the greatest number is the foundation of morals and legislation
     
    That is the moral basis for European genocide by suppressed reproduction (advocated by the atheist Pope Francis, Herr Merkel, and all right-thinking liberals) and mass replacement immigration (advocated by the atheist Pope Francis, Herr Merkel, and all right thinking liberals). Equally, it is the basis for Google's apparent contempt for white male software engineers. The object being, it seems, to bring happiness to a greater number of non-white software engineers, and non-white people of every other kind. Thus is the sum total of human happiness to be increased.

    What rot Americans now live by. Quite literally they live by putrid drivel spewed by a moral idiot whose corpse is revered in the temples of academia and whose only lasting material impact on the world consists in a range of derelict prisons in the Communist prison island of Cuba.

    We are observing in the Western world today what the great Soviet dissident, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, warned of in his 1980 essay, The Mortal Danger: Misconceptions about Soviet Russia and the Threat to America. It is not Soviet Communism that endangers the West, he warned, it is the Communists in our own midst who will seek to destroy the West.

    So far, if Google's reported workplace culture is anything to go by, the course of our domestic Commies has thus far been unobstructed.
  20. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The joke is on Damore and the American sheeple. Google (and every other corporation) are focused like lasers on social issues to obscure their oligarchic dictatorship. The elephant in the room remains hidden – the “man” can fire your ass for anything at anytime – including questionable politics. It will be there way or you will find yourself unemployed.
    Thus Damore is out of a job. However, he is at once a celebrity and could be re-employed fairly soon.

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  21. @Jason Liu
    There's no way Pichai wrote that thing himself. It sounds like boilerplate straight out of HR and PR.

    There’s no way Pichai wrote that thing himself. It sounds like boilerplate straight out of HR and PR.

    And let’s not overlook the valuable contributions made by the legal department!

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  22. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Jason Liu
    There's no way Pichai wrote that thing himself. It sounds like boilerplate straight out of HR and PR.

    There’s no way Pichai wrote that thing himself.

    What kind of a CEO allows some faceless bureaucrat to speak for him in a matter bound to create a storm?

    And if that’s not Pichai’s voice, why has he not withdrawn the statement, apologized to Damore, and asked him to return to Google?

    Pichai has to be a leadership dumbass.

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    • Replies: @englishmike
    But if it is his voice, how does an immigrant from an Indian culture come to speak that kind of pc-sjw boilerplate?

    Was it the first version of "English" he learned to speak before the normal one other second-language learners acquire, or did he learn it "on the job", or on a training course?

    Does it feel strange when he goes back to the native language in which he first learned to communicate as a human being with other human beings?

    Is he still a human being, or has the boilerplate taken him over?
  23. @Anonymous
    "It is well-established by Pinker and other scientists that women have higher IQs on average, while men preponderate the extremes of brilliance and dullness."

    First time I'm hearing that claim. I've heard about the flatter, wider Bell Curve for men but the average IQ was either the same or even higher. That's also more logical since men need higher IQs to both prove themselves as providers and charm the pants off their mates. Women love intelligence + health in their mates while men look for beauty + health. A highly stratified, unequal and un-meritocratic (old money, castes or arranged marriages) system can distort the choices quite a bit but that's the baseline.

    This is also interesting if true:

    Recent research using DNA analysis answered this question about two years ago. Today’s human population is descended from twice as many women as men.

    I think this difference is the single most underappreciated fact about gender. To get that kind of difference, you had to have something like, throughout the entire history of the human race, maybe 80% of women but only 40% of men reproduced.
     
    https://archive.is/9F5rK

    I’ve heard about the flatter, wider Bell Curve for men but the average IQ was either the same or even higher. That’s also more logical since men need higher IQs to both prove themselves as providers and charm the pants off their mates.

    Or… to put it another way… women ‘need’ lower IQs in order to believe that crap… lol

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    • Replies: @Logan
    That one struck me also.

    My understanding is that there are quite a few more women in the range of slightly above to slightly below average, or to put it another way, functionally average. Men pull ahead of women at about one standard deviation from average each way, and the farther above or below average you go, the greater the male preponderance.

    It is thus accurate to say there are more "above average" women if you mean the group from 100 to 115, or thereabouts. But the total numbers for >100 are very close, and men really dominate at the far right side of the bell curve. (Also the far left.)

    Here's a decent article with an excellent graph. Atrocious headline, though. The evidence simply does not show what the headline says it does. Grrrr. The smartest people in the world are NOT all men. They're just mostly men.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/02/sorry-girls-but-the-smartest-people-in-the-world-are-all-men/
  24. @Anonymous
    "It is well-established by Pinker and other scientists that women have higher IQs on average, while men preponderate the extremes of brilliance and dullness."

    First time I'm hearing that claim. I've heard about the flatter, wider Bell Curve for men but the average IQ was either the same or even higher. That's also more logical since men need higher IQs to both prove themselves as providers and charm the pants off their mates. Women love intelligence + health in their mates while men look for beauty + health. A highly stratified, unequal and un-meritocratic (old money, castes or arranged marriages) system can distort the choices quite a bit but that's the baseline.

    This is also interesting if true:

    Recent research using DNA analysis answered this question about two years ago. Today’s human population is descended from twice as many women as men.

    I think this difference is the single most underappreciated fact about gender. To get that kind of difference, you had to have something like, throughout the entire history of the human race, maybe 80% of women but only 40% of men reproduced.
     
    https://archive.is/9F5rK

    “This is also interesting if true:”

    Of course it is. Males of most species have significantly lower reproductive success. In ours, war and hierarchy (i.e. competitive exclusion) ensured sexual monopolies by fewer men. Same as Tinder stats really.

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  25. Cundalini says:

    Damore was a twat, another programmer who thinks hes going to change the world convinced by his intellectual conceit

    He wasnt being paid for his opinions but he gave them all the same which gives away his emotional immaturity lack of sexual experience and indication he was living with his mother until recently.
    He should have shut his mouth and earned his salary.

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    • Replies: @CanSpeccy

    Damore was a twat, another programmer who thinks hes going to change the world convinced by his intellectual conceit
     
    And Cundalini is another twat who cannot stand the idea of free speech.

    Americans (I'm assuming Cundalini is an American, not a refugee from the Soviet Union), seem to be taking to totalitarianism in droves. And in expressing their intolerance for an open society, they add circumstantial credibility to Damore's assessment of Google workplace culture: a world where expression of views contrary to those espoused by management leads to bullying and abuse, not rational debate.

    , @Logan
    He expressed his opinion on a company website specifically promoted as allowing googlers to express themselves and kick around ideas, no matter how strange. Something of obvious potential value to a company that thrives on innovation.

    Well, shot a pretty good hole in that, didn't they?

    If Google didn't want employees to post their opinions, they shouldn't have provided a forum and encouraged them to do exactly that. Or, if certain ideas are out of bounds, they should have stated what those are up front.

    This inconsistency, BTW, may have put them in legal trouble.
    , @englishmike

    He should have shut his mouth and earned his salary.
     
    And learned to love Big Brother.
  26. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Jason Liu
    In other words, western academia is ideologically compromised and should not be taken as credible. Especially not in the humanities, or anything having to do with identity.

    western academia is ideologically compromised and should not be taken as credible. Especially not in the humanities

    It’s not just the humanities. You must have heard of Tim Hunt, a scientist, an FRS, a Nobel Laureate, booted from University College London, humiliated by the President of the Royal Society with whom he shared the Nobel Prize. For what? A dumb joke that could have offended no one with a normal brain:

    Tim Hunt, the Kind, Unworldly Nobel-Prize-Winner, Brought Down By a Report of Disputed Veracity By a Twittering, Anglophobic, Black-Privileged, Resumé-padding, Lecturer in Journalism and the Lies of Professor Michael Arthur, Provost of University College London, a Man Unable to Acknowledge an Error of Judgment, and Under the Sway of the Odious Morality of a Stuffed Corpse

    The “odious morality of a stuffed corpse,” is of course that of Jeremy Bentham, whose stuffed corpse it is brought out to sit at the head of the table during University College London’s Board Meetings. He stated his fundamental and contemptible moral principle thus:

    The greatest happiness of the greatest number is the foundation of morals and legislation

    That is the moral basis for European genocide by suppressed reproduction (advocated by the atheist Pope Francis, Herr Merkel, and all right-thinking liberals) and mass replacement immigration (advocated by the atheist Pope Francis, Herr Merkel, and all right thinking liberals). Equally, it is the basis for Google’s apparent contempt for white male software engineers. The object being, it seems, to bring happiness to a greater number of non-white software engineers, and non-white people of every other kind. Thus is the sum total of human happiness to be increased.

    What rot Americans now live by. Quite literally they live by putrid drivel spewed by a moral idiot whose corpse is revered in the temples of academia and whose only lasting material impact on the world consists in a range of derelict prisons in the Communist prison island of Cuba.

    We are observing in the Western world today what the great Soviet dissident, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, warned of in his 1980 essay, The Mortal Danger: Misconceptions about Soviet Russia and the Threat to America. It is not Soviet Communism that endangers the West, he warned, it is the Communists in our own midst who will seek to destroy the West.

    So far, if Google’s reported workplace culture is anything to go by, the course of our domestic Commies has thus far been unobstructed.

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  27. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Cundalini
    Damore was a twat, another programmer who thinks hes going to change the world convinced by his intellectual conceit

    He wasnt being paid for his opinions but he gave them all the same which gives away his emotional immaturity lack of sexual experience and indication he was living with his mother until recently.
    He should have shut his mouth and earned his salary.

    Damore was a twat, another programmer who thinks hes going to change the world convinced by his intellectual conceit

    And Cundalini is another twat who cannot stand the idea of free speech.

    Americans (I’m assuming Cundalini is an American, not a refugee from the Soviet Union), seem to be taking to totalitarianism in droves. And in expressing their intolerance for an open society, they add circumstantial credibility to Damore’s assessment of Google workplace culture: a world where expression of views contrary to those espoused by management leads to bullying and abuse, not rational debate.

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  28. Logan says:
    @GourmetDan

    I’ve heard about the flatter, wider Bell Curve for men but the average IQ was either the same or even higher. That’s also more logical since men need higher IQs to both prove themselves as providers and charm the pants off their mates.
     
    Or... to put it another way... women 'need' lower IQs in order to believe that crap... lol

    That one struck me also.

    My understanding is that there are quite a few more women in the range of slightly above to slightly below average, or to put it another way, functionally average. Men pull ahead of women at about one standard deviation from average each way, and the farther above or below average you go, the greater the male preponderance.

    It is thus accurate to say there are more “above average” women if you mean the group from 100 to 115, or thereabouts. But the total numbers for >100 are very close, and men really dominate at the far right side of the bell curve. (Also the far left.)

    Here’s a decent article with an excellent graph. Atrocious headline, though. The evidence simply does not show what the headline says it does. Grrrr. The smartest people in the world are NOT all men. They’re just mostly men.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/02/sorry-girls-but-the-smartest-people-in-the-world-are-all-men/

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  29. If Google is against elitism and stereotypes, it should hire its workers from community colleges.

    Recruiting mostly from Ivy League and elite colleges is a harmful elite stereotype that says those in elite colleges are smarter than those in community colleges that have more blacks and Hispanics.

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  30. Logan says:
    @Cundalini
    Damore was a twat, another programmer who thinks hes going to change the world convinced by his intellectual conceit

    He wasnt being paid for his opinions but he gave them all the same which gives away his emotional immaturity lack of sexual experience and indication he was living with his mother until recently.
    He should have shut his mouth and earned his salary.

    He expressed his opinion on a company website specifically promoted as allowing googlers to express themselves and kick around ideas, no matter how strange. Something of obvious potential value to a company that thrives on innovation.

    Well, shot a pretty good hole in that, didn’t they?

    If Google didn’t want employees to post their opinions, they shouldn’t have provided a forum and encouraged them to do exactly that. Or, if certain ideas are out of bounds, they should have stated what those are up front.

    This inconsistency, BTW, may have put them in legal trouble.

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    • Replies: @Eagle Eye

    If Google didn’t want employees to post their opinions, they shouldn’t have provided a forum and encouraged them to do exactly that. Or, if certain ideas are out of bounds, they should have stated what those are up front.
     
    Perhaps this interpretation is too blue-eyed.

    In a more cynical culture, this technique for identifying and annihilating dissenters has been known for more than 2,000 years under the name 指鹿為馬 "pointing to a deer as a horse."


    Zhao Gao was contemplating treason but was afraid the other officials would not heed his commands, so he decided to test them first. He brought a deer and presented it to the Second Emperor but called it a horse. The Second Emperor laughed and said, "Is the chancellor perhaps mistaken, calling a deer a horse?" Then the emperor questioned those around him. Some remained silent, while some, hoping to ingratiate themselves with Zhao Gao, said it was a horse, and others said it was a deer. Zhao Gao secretly arranged for all those who said it was a deer to be brought before the law and had them executed instantly. Thereafter the officials were all terrified of Zhao Gao. Zhao Gao gained military power as a result of that. (tr. Watson 1993:70)
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Gao#Calling_a_deer_a_horse

    No doubt there is a good equivalent in Pichai's ancestral Indian culture.

  31. Logan says:
    @Jason Liu
    There's no way Pichai wrote that thing himself. It sounds like boilerplate straight out of HR and PR.

    That’s not necessarily boilerplate. Sadly, it’s a good representation of how these people “think.”

    Perhaps they have boilerplated minds or souls.

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    • Replies: @Dieter Kief

    That's not necessarily boilerplate. Sadly, it's a good representation of how these people "think."
     
    "think" - that highlights your remark; which I think is quite right.
  32. @Cundalini
    Damore was a twat, another programmer who thinks hes going to change the world convinced by his intellectual conceit

    He wasnt being paid for his opinions but he gave them all the same which gives away his emotional immaturity lack of sexual experience and indication he was living with his mother until recently.
    He should have shut his mouth and earned his salary.

    He should have shut his mouth and earned his salary.

    And learned to love Big Brother.

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  33. @CanSpeccy

    Damone [sic] is somebody’s shill.
     
    .So exposing the reality of liberal-leftist bigotry, bullying and discrimination is proof that you're "sombody's shill"? What kind of bullshit argument is that?

    Nobody with two functioning brain cells would publish that memo in that environment without some expectation of losing his job; either he is looking for fame and a payout, or he is simply insane.
     
    Which reveals what a scoundrel mentality you have. Exposing corruption, bigotry, and manipulation of the public mind through the control of information is something you think a sane person would do, only for fame or money.

    The idea of blowing the whistle on a bunch of dirty manipulators, bigots, bullies and scumbags who routinely misdirect the public for both political ends or to boost profits because you no longer wish to work with them, or because you think the public should know what such people are doing, or because you believe in propagating truth not using the most powerful tools for the enlightenment of humanity for the purpose of pushing some grotesque leftist agenda is, apparently, to a moral numbskull such as yourself, unintelligible.

    What a sick society America has become, that it can produce individuals who not only think as you do, but who think anyone who thinks otherwise is insane.

    But the cherry on the cake is that Damore did not blow the whistle on anyone. He merely circulated a memorandum among what Pichai, Google's idiot savant CEO, calls "Googlers". It was Pichai, confirming his own idiocy, who blew the whistle on himself by firing Damore.

    What delicious irony. The shit CEO of the dirty search engine company, dicked himself.

    I admit to being a scoundrel and hypocrite … the pay is much better than sticking to my principles. I have other ways to resist other than dying on some hill. Think of Patton and making the other bas***d due for his country.

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    • Replies: @CanSpeccy

    I admit to being a scoundrel and hypocrite …
     
    Good for you. I generally like an honest scoundrel.

    Think of Patton and making the other bas***d due for his country.
     
    Yes, but I don't think Damore is risking his life. It's not Hillary he's criticizing. And anyhow, from his account of it, he's well off to be outa Google's rotten workplace — however brilliant and productive the white nerds who stick around and take crap from the scoundrel feminazis and anti-white racists.

    A man with a brain doesn't need no stinking job with Google or any other shyster corporation or government agency.

    Damore's situation reminds me of the happy time, more than 30 years ago, I threw up a tenure track associate professorship at Canada's no. 1 university after just three days. Receiving the Dean's letter of appointment was the ideal pleasure. Submitting my letter of resignation was the real pleasure. And on the whole, I remained happy ever after.

  34. @Logan
    That's not necessarily boilerplate. Sadly, it's a good representation of how these people "think."

    Perhaps they have boilerplated minds or souls.

    That’s not necessarily boilerplate. Sadly, it’s a good representation of how these people “think.”

    “think” – that highlights your remark; which I think is quite right.

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  35. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Damone [sic] is somebody’s shill.
     
    .So exposing the reality of liberal-leftist bigotry, bullying and discrimination is proof that you're "sombody's shill"? What kind of bullshit argument is that?

    Nobody with two functioning brain cells would publish that memo in that environment without some expectation of losing his job; either he is looking for fame and a payout, or he is simply insane.
     
    Which reveals what a scoundrel mentality you have. Exposing corruption, bigotry, and manipulation of the public mind through the control of information is something you think a sane person would do, only for fame or money.

    The idea of blowing the whistle on a bunch of dirty manipulators, bigots, bullies and scumbags who routinely misdirect the public for both political ends or to boost profits because you no longer wish to work with them, or because you think the public should know what such people are doing, or because you believe in propagating truth not using the most powerful tools for the enlightenment of humanity for the purpose of pushing some grotesque leftist agenda is, apparently, to a moral numbskull such as yourself, unintelligible.

    What a sick society America has become, that it can produce individuals who not only think as you do, but who think anyone who thinks otherwise is insane.

    But the cherry on the cake is that Damore did not blow the whistle on anyone. He merely circulated a memorandum among what Pichai, Google's idiot savant CEO, calls "Googlers". It was Pichai, confirming his own idiocy, who blew the whistle on himself by firing Damore.

    What delicious irony. The shit CEO of the dirty search engine company, dicked himself.

    Hello CanSpeccy:

    Here collected are a few thoughts. Like your opinion on these:

    1. Pichai made a terrible error of judgement in sacking Damore, for he brought upon himself an unwanted spotlight, which reveals Google’s infestation by the SJW brigands.

    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    3. Men are 80% of Google’s workforce, which suggests Google’s hiring policies are not skewed by PC

    4. Google, whatever one may conclude regarding their ultimate motives [controlloing social thought etc] has not lagged behind anyone in pushing the technological frontiers.

    5. Google has delivered for its stockholders.

    6. Google is not under any legal requirement to be the stage upon which employees can advertise and debate their sociological viewpoints. Many companies explicitly forbid political or social activism.

    7. Google and FB etc need to be broken up by the Anti-trust arm of the government.

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    • Replies: @Rurik

    Google is not under any legal requirement to be the stage upon which employees can advertise and debate their sociological viewpoints. Many companies explicitly forbid political or social activism.
     
    for Google to forbid political and social activism is like Goldman Sachs forbidding making profits
    , @CanSpeccy
    Sam,

    I agree on 1, 3, 4 and 5.

    Concerning 2, whether woman are "far better organisers and intuitive creatures [than men]" I leave open to question. Women generally have more patience in organizing a picnic or whatever, but whether there are women more intuitive than Einstein or Shakespeare, I think is open to question.

    On 6, I read somewhere that the memorandum was posted on a Google board or server where open discussion was invited. If that is the case, Damore's comments were entirely warranted. Moreover, I accept the NYTimes characterization of Pichai's action:


    Which brings us to Pichai, the supposed grown-up in the room. He could have wrestled with the tension between population-level research and individual experience. He could have stood up for the free flow of information. Instead he joined the mob. He fired Damore and wrote, “To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not O.K.”

    That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. Damore wrote nothing like that about his Google colleagues. Either Pichai is unprepared to understand the research (unlikely), is not capable of handling complex data flows (a bad trait in a C.E.O.) or was simply too afraid to stand up to a mob.

     

    Especially, I agree with "That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. "

    In any case, firing an employee for some seemingly justified criticism of the workplace culture, seems stupid, since one would expect it to adversely Googles ability to hire the best. However, perhaps I underestimate to what extent recent grads from the Ivy Leagues are acculturated to a fascistic social order.

    As for 7, I would break Google's near monopoly on search as outlined at #18. That way we'd have a much better idea of how Google are manipulating results to suppress ideas they don't like. We could also expect some useful new search engines, deploying specialized algorithms for specific purposes.

    , @utu
    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    How the IQ-ist deal with man woman difference in that their bell curves are slightly shifted and have differed standard deviations. How do they attribute it to genes? The first 22 chromosomes have statistically the same genes in both sexes. The only difference is on the 23rd. Actually women have more there than men on Y chromosome. Are there intelligence genes on the Y chromosome that account for the extremely low IQ and extremely high IQ in men and the genes that men do not have but women do on the missing part of Y chromosome control activation of the genes responsible the outliers of the bell curve?
  36. If you accessed Damore’s memo via “Gizmodo”, you probably know that their version did not include his graphs and his links to scholarly sources which supported key parts of his argument. Having deleted them, Gizmodo then criticized the memo for its lack of empirical support.

    I found a pdf version of the original memo retweeted, by Ann Coulter on her Twitter account, from Steve Stewart Williams @SteveStuWill.

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    About ten minutes after posting my comment, I discovered that Steve Sailer had also "tweeted" a link to the unedited version of Damore's memo (although not the downloadable pdf version).
  37. peterAUS says:
    @The Alarmist
    Damone is somebody's shill. Nobody with two functioning brain cells would publish that memo in that environment without some expectation of losing his job; either he is looking for fame and a payout, or he is simply insane.

    You know, he could’ve been “true believer” in all that “free speech” bullshit.
    I’ll give that, say, 30 %.

    70 % I’d go for daredevil/fame move.
    With the “true believer” twist.
    Because he probably did figure out he’d be fired; I somehow suspect, though, that he really didn’t think through options from then on.
    It would be interesting to see what kind of paid employment he’d land soon.
    Or later.
    Or never.

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  38. JustJeff says:
    @The Alarmist
    Damone is somebody's shill. Nobody with two functioning brain cells would publish that memo in that environment without some expectation of losing his job; either he is looking for fame and a payout, or he is simply insane.

    Well obviously. No one in 2017 is stupid enough to say this stuff out loud in a corporate environment and not know they’ll get fired. Maybe he just had a Falling Down moment.

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    No one in 2017 is stupid enough to say this stuff out loud in a corporate environment and not know they’ll get fired. Maybe he just had a Falling Down moment.
     
    Or maybe he'd just had it with being pissed on by bigoted liberals and didn't give a damn what the consequences would be of his reasoned expression of dissent.

    He may even have thought that his action would create a chance to skin the bastards in court.
  39. @CanSpeccy

    There’s no way Pichai wrote that thing himself.
     
    What kind of a CEO allows some faceless bureaucrat to speak for him in a matter bound to create a storm?

    And if that's not Pichai's voice, why has he not withdrawn the statement, apologized to Damore, and asked him to return to Google?

    Pichai has to be a leadership dumbass.

    But if it is his voice, how does an immigrant from an Indian culture come to speak that kind of pc-sjw boilerplate?

    Was it the first version of “English” he learned to speak before the normal one other second-language learners acquire, or did he learn it “on the job”, or on a training course?

    Does it feel strange when he goes back to the native language in which he first learned to communicate as a human being with other human beings?

    Is he still a human being, or has the boilerplate taken him over?

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    But if it is his voice, how does an immigrant from an Indian culture come to speak that kind of pc-sjw boilerplate?
     
    It's probably just his authentic fascistic Indian voice.

    India is not a Western country, and there is not in India the same commitment to the ideals of the open society as once characterized Western nations.

    Moreover the Indian style of corporate management is, I understand, highly authoritarian. So Pichai is just doing what comes naturally to a high IQ Indian on the make in the West.

    His problem is that his instincts are at odds with what Google would like you to believe about them, but not at odds with what Google really is. He'll surely ride out the storm even though the liberal N.Y. Times is calling on him to resign.

    , @Wizard of Oz
    I haven't looked him up but I would guess that he is either (from an early àge) totally bilingual or even has English as his home language (local language spoken mainly to servants, street vendors and drivers. If that is right it becomes interesting to consider how his Indianness nonetheless prevented him behaving with honest ressonableness compared with say a NY Jew or WASP, Californin third generation Latin or Midwesterner from a small town background.... Your script will be read in the Business School's seminar for those taking a Sociology option.
  40. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama
    Hello CanSpeccy:

    Here collected are a few thoughts. Like your opinion on these:

    1. Pichai made a terrible error of judgement in sacking Damore, for he brought upon himself an unwanted spotlight, which reveals Google's infestation by the SJW brigands.

    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    3. Men are 80% of Google's workforce, which suggests Google's hiring policies are not skewed by PC

    4. Google, whatever one may conclude regarding their ultimate motives [controlloing social thought etc] has not lagged behind anyone in pushing the technological frontiers.

    5. Google has delivered for its stockholders.

    6. Google is not under any legal requirement to be the stage upon which employees can advertise and debate their sociological viewpoints. Many companies explicitly forbid political or social activism.

    7. Google and FB etc need to be broken up by the Anti-trust arm of the government.

    Google is not under any legal requirement to be the stage upon which employees can advertise and debate their sociological viewpoints. Many companies explicitly forbid political or social activism.

    for Google to forbid political and social activism is like Goldman Sachs forbidding making profits

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    Nonsense. Google is not an ACLU type of institution. At its core it's a technology company and hires mostly coders, mathematicians, and logicians; not Jesse Jacksons.
  41. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @englishmike
    But if it is his voice, how does an immigrant from an Indian culture come to speak that kind of pc-sjw boilerplate?

    Was it the first version of "English" he learned to speak before the normal one other second-language learners acquire, or did he learn it "on the job", or on a training course?

    Does it feel strange when he goes back to the native language in which he first learned to communicate as a human being with other human beings?

    Is he still a human being, or has the boilerplate taken him over?

    But if it is his voice, how does an immigrant from an Indian culture come to speak that kind of pc-sjw boilerplate?

    It’s probably just his authentic fascistic Indian voice.

    India is not a Western country, and there is not in India the same commitment to the ideals of the open society as once characterized Western nations.

    Moreover the Indian style of corporate management is, I understand, highly authoritarian. So Pichai is just doing what comes naturally to a high IQ Indian on the make in the West.

    His problem is that his instincts are at odds with what Google would like you to believe about them, but not at odds with what Google really is. He’ll surely ride out the storm even though the liberal N.Y. Times is calling on him to resign.

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  42. Liza says:
    @The Alarmist
    Damone is somebody's shill. Nobody with two functioning brain cells would publish that memo in that environment without some expectation of losing his job; either he is looking for fame and a payout, or he is simply insane.

    I found this today. Right or wrong, I do not know. Here is one sentence from the article:

    It’s the perfect right/left tempest-in-a-teapot that keeps Americans combating each other instead of focused on the people controlling the narrative. Obviously, important issues are at stake in this dispute, but the end result is to direct the conversation into mere combat in an arena in which no debate will upset the social engineering goals.

    http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2017/08/the-james-damore-psy-op/

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  43. epebble says:
    @TG
    The field of Optometry is increasingly dominated by women. I have served on the admissions committee for an optometry school, and we'd like a better balance between male and female, but if most of the best applicants are female, well that's that and nobody whines. Many of these applicants are quite up-front about choosing optometry because it offers a better work-life balance than, say, ophthalmic surgery, and again, so what?

    New enrollment in US medical schools is now 50/50 between men and women, and will likely become majority female before too long. Where is the angst?

    And I remind you that, on average, people with degrees in medicine and optometry have significantly larger salaries than people with degrees in engineering, and significantly longer careers. On balance, I'd not say that professional women are doing all that bad. It's just that, for whatever reasons, the smart women tend to choose medicine over engineering. I fail to see a problem here.

    we’d like a better balance between male and female

    Why? What harm do you see if it is 100% female? Nursing, till recently, has been nearly 100% female and no one objects. Construction work is nearly 100% male and no one objects.

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  44. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Sam Shama
    Hello CanSpeccy:

    Here collected are a few thoughts. Like your opinion on these:

    1. Pichai made a terrible error of judgement in sacking Damore, for he brought upon himself an unwanted spotlight, which reveals Google's infestation by the SJW brigands.

    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    3. Men are 80% of Google's workforce, which suggests Google's hiring policies are not skewed by PC

    4. Google, whatever one may conclude regarding their ultimate motives [controlloing social thought etc] has not lagged behind anyone in pushing the technological frontiers.

    5. Google has delivered for its stockholders.

    6. Google is not under any legal requirement to be the stage upon which employees can advertise and debate their sociological viewpoints. Many companies explicitly forbid political or social activism.

    7. Google and FB etc need to be broken up by the Anti-trust arm of the government.

    Sam,

    I agree on 1, 3, 4 and 5.

    Concerning 2, whether woman are “far better organisers and intuitive creatures [than men]” I leave open to question. Women generally have more patience in organizing a picnic or whatever, but whether there are women more intuitive than Einstein or Shakespeare, I think is open to question.

    On 6, I read somewhere that the memorandum was posted on a Google board or server where open discussion was invited. If that is the case, Damore’s comments were entirely warranted. Moreover, I accept the NYTimes characterization of Pichai’s action:

    Which brings us to Pichai, the supposed grown-up in the room. He could have wrestled with the tension between population-level research and individual experience. He could have stood up for the free flow of information. Instead he joined the mob. He fired Damore and wrote, “To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not O.K.”

    That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. Damore wrote nothing like that about his Google colleagues. Either Pichai is unprepared to understand the research (unlikely), is not capable of handling complex data flows (a bad trait in a C.E.O.) or was simply too afraid to stand up to a mob.

    Especially, I agree with “That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. ”

    In any case, firing an employee for some seemingly justified criticism of the workplace culture, seems stupid, since one would expect it to adversely Googles ability to hire the best. However, perhaps I underestimate to what extent recent grads from the Ivy Leagues are acculturated to a fascistic social order.

    As for 7, I would break Google’s near monopoly on search as outlined at #18. That way we’d have a much better idea of how Google are manipulating results to suppress ideas they don’t like. We could also expect some useful new search engines, deploying specialized algorithms for specific purposes.

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    If he posted on an open board which invites discussion, he's on firm ground. Yet I understand he posted anonymously [which in itself is fine] and attempted to camouflage the source. Again, all of that is fine, from a free expression viewpoint, but why go through the subterfuge? Look, I think the bloke did a good service, but if his position is to stand in court, he needs to demonstrate (a) that his agenda was not in contravention to company policy and (b) he did not have a human resources negative record.
    , @Rurik
    NYT:



    “To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not O.K.”

    That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. Damore wrote nothing like that about his Google colleagues. Either Pichai is unprepared to understand the research (unlikely), is not capable of handling complex data flows (a bad trait in a C.E.O.) or was simply too afraid to stand up to a mob.

     

    Especially, I agree with “That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. ”
     
    perhaps it is, but I see nothing wrong with this nation having an honest conversation about having traits that make people less (or more) biologically suited to specific jobs and tasks and all kinds of activities, and I certainly don't consider such a conversation "offensive and not O.K.”

    In fact I suspect that most people all know that the NBA is mostly black because blacks are better at basket ball than Asian women.

    And women are better at running and operating child care businesses than most men.

    Indians are better at writing code

    Jews are better at the linguistic labyrinth of the Bar

    Men make better designers of military jets and bricklayers, and women make better elementary school teachers

    that doesn't mean these pursuits should be exclusive to the people best suited for them on the whole, just that if men or women are over-represented in certain fields - is not prima facia evidence of discrimination, which is the hysteria that is underling this entire debate.

    You see no one cares if blacks are overrepresented in the NBA, or women are over represented as dental hygienists, no. The entire problem, the whole reason this conversation is so wrought with triggered SJW and assorted butt-hurts, is because we're all supposed to act like if there are more male CEOs than female CEOs, (or Marine generals, etc...) that this is irrefutable proof positive that the evil (always white) male is back to doing what he always does... discriminating against everyone else to protect his privilege!!!! Because the lie is that everyone is equal in all ways, men and women, black and white, gay or straight. And that even to notice that a person is male or female, black or white, is now evidence of the privileged bigotry of the evil patriarchy.

    and that's all a crock of shit. And (at least here at the Unz) we should flay this idiocy once and for all. And real-talk what's really behind all the apoplectic and triggered crybabies all blubbering about evil white males.

    the memes are weaponsed and are used to marginalize and malign and collectively destroy us (hated white males). And we should simply point out the obvious truth, which puts their lies to rest. IMHO
  45. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @The Alarmist
    I admit to being a scoundrel and hypocrite ... the pay is much better than sticking to my principles. I have other ways to resist other than dying on some hill. Think of Patton and making the other bas***d due for his country.

    I admit to being a scoundrel and hypocrite …

    Good for you. I generally like an honest scoundrel.

    Think of Patton and making the other bas***d due for his country.

    Yes, but I don’t think Damore is risking his life. It’s not Hillary he’s criticizing. And anyhow, from his account of it, he’s well off to be outa Google’s rotten workplace — however brilliant and productive the white nerds who stick around and take crap from the scoundrel feminazis and anti-white racists.

    A man with a brain doesn’t need no stinking job with Google or any other shyster corporation or government agency.

    Damore’s situation reminds me of the happy time, more than 30 years ago, I threw up a tenure track associate professorship at Canada’s no. 1 university after just three days. Receiving the Dean’s letter of appointment was the ideal pleasure. Submitting my letter of resignation was the real pleasure. And on the whole, I remained happy ever after.

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    OK I gotta hear the story behind your resignation.

    Not being snarky -- I genuinely love stories where someone completely rejects expectations and acts on principle (which I presume motivated your decision, but if not, I'd still like to hear the story anyway).
  46. @CanSpeccy

    regardless of whether a vast majority of Googlers disagree with it.
     
    Pichai is is an idiot. If a vast majority of "Googlers" disagreed with Damore's memorandum, how come most oppose his firing.

    If Google's board wishes to avoid massive damage to the company, they should fire Pichai without delay on the grounds of his dishonesty and stupidity.

    But the won't.

    Good.

    Let the manipulative, globalist, scum suffer massive damage to their credibility: credibility they do not deserve.

    Guess you need to brand Pichai an idiot and a dumbass (in one of your later comments), though he is currently number one at the behemoth in the silicon valley while you’re number one in this comment section… I can see that you’re really his equal, Dumbbell!

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    Guess you need to brand Pichai an idiot and a dumbass (in one of your later comments), though he is currently number one at the behemoth in the silicon valley...
     
    Actually, Pachy, today he looks like the number one jackass in silicon valley. As for:

    I can see that you’re really his equal
     
    I can assure you I'm nowhere near such a jackass as to be called out for my lies and bigotry by the New York Times.

    Perhaps your obtuseness is due to a thickness other than of the skin.

  47. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy
    What the Damore incident proves, is that Internet search is too important to leave to Internet search companies. Governments should require search engine companies providing service within their territory to provide the national library with unrestricted, unfiltered access to the search provider's database. By thus creating a national data resource, governments would be making a demand on search companies analogous to the obligation they already place upon publishers to provide hard copies and digital copies of every book that they publish.

    Such a national data resource would allow the US Library of Congress and other national libraries to develop their own publicly accessible search facilities, based not on one, but on all search engine databases. Because maintaining and interrogating search engine databases consumes resources, the provision of database access to public libraries should be compensated at rates allowing a reasonable return on investment to the original database owners. In turn, national libraries should sell access to commercial search engines that offer specialized search algorithms.

    By these means, the power of corporations such as Google to exert undue influence over public access to information would be broken, and the range of data available to the public and the means by which it is accessed would be greatly enhanced.

    Agree entirely, with the proviso that public libraries thus endowed with data, treat the issue of privacy with utmost care.

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    Sam,

    It's true that Google have a lot of confidential information, my emails for a start, if not my DNA. But the searchable database cannot contain confidential information, since it is all derived from publicly accessible web sites (is that not so?).

    Re: Your point 5 of an earlier comment that "Google has delivered for its stockholders." I would say that is not so much because the management is necessarily brilliant but because Google has had a near monopoly on search in many countries.

    The same is true of all the FANGs. These companies emerged though early exploitation of the Internet, a medium that makes the transformation of first mover advantage into a monopoly a high probability.

    Sure the Google boys were smart to spot the opportunity and they had the credentials to get the venture cap they needed, but in their case as in most others, success was a matter of being in the right place at the right time. Even my own tiny business success depended largely on being, I believe, the first in the field to use the Internet and to expand that use as the WWW emerged.

    Of all the tech billionaires, Musk is perhaps the only one who will go down in history as a great innovator, not because of the rockets which thus far are mostly just a government contract job, or the batteries, which are just a commodity, or the (heavily government subsidized) cars, which may never turn a profit, or the rooftop solar business which makes little economic sense, but the hyperloop, assuming (what I rather doubt) it takes off and becomes a major form of transportation.

  48. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy
    Sam,

    I agree on 1, 3, 4 and 5.

    Concerning 2, whether woman are "far better organisers and intuitive creatures [than men]" I leave open to question. Women generally have more patience in organizing a picnic or whatever, but whether there are women more intuitive than Einstein or Shakespeare, I think is open to question.

    On 6, I read somewhere that the memorandum was posted on a Google board or server where open discussion was invited. If that is the case, Damore's comments were entirely warranted. Moreover, I accept the NYTimes characterization of Pichai's action:


    Which brings us to Pichai, the supposed grown-up in the room. He could have wrestled with the tension between population-level research and individual experience. He could have stood up for the free flow of information. Instead he joined the mob. He fired Damore and wrote, “To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not O.K.”

    That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. Damore wrote nothing like that about his Google colleagues. Either Pichai is unprepared to understand the research (unlikely), is not capable of handling complex data flows (a bad trait in a C.E.O.) or was simply too afraid to stand up to a mob.

     

    Especially, I agree with "That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. "

    In any case, firing an employee for some seemingly justified criticism of the workplace culture, seems stupid, since one would expect it to adversely Googles ability to hire the best. However, perhaps I underestimate to what extent recent grads from the Ivy Leagues are acculturated to a fascistic social order.

    As for 7, I would break Google's near monopoly on search as outlined at #18. That way we'd have a much better idea of how Google are manipulating results to suppress ideas they don't like. We could also expect some useful new search engines, deploying specialized algorithms for specific purposes.

    If he posted on an open board which invites discussion, he’s on firm ground. Yet I understand he posted anonymously [which in itself is fine] and attempted to camouflage the source. Again, all of that is fine, from a free expression viewpoint, but why go through the subterfuge? Look, I think the bloke did a good service, but if his position is to stand in court, he needs to demonstrate (a) that his agenda was not in contravention to company policy and (b) he did not have a human resources negative record.

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  49. Rurik says:
    @CanSpeccy
    Sam,

    I agree on 1, 3, 4 and 5.

    Concerning 2, whether woman are "far better organisers and intuitive creatures [than men]" I leave open to question. Women generally have more patience in organizing a picnic or whatever, but whether there are women more intuitive than Einstein or Shakespeare, I think is open to question.

    On 6, I read somewhere that the memorandum was posted on a Google board or server where open discussion was invited. If that is the case, Damore's comments were entirely warranted. Moreover, I accept the NYTimes characterization of Pichai's action:


    Which brings us to Pichai, the supposed grown-up in the room. He could have wrestled with the tension between population-level research and individual experience. He could have stood up for the free flow of information. Instead he joined the mob. He fired Damore and wrote, “To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not O.K.”

    That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. Damore wrote nothing like that about his Google colleagues. Either Pichai is unprepared to understand the research (unlikely), is not capable of handling complex data flows (a bad trait in a C.E.O.) or was simply too afraid to stand up to a mob.

     

    Especially, I agree with "That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. "

    In any case, firing an employee for some seemingly justified criticism of the workplace culture, seems stupid, since one would expect it to adversely Googles ability to hire the best. However, perhaps I underestimate to what extent recent grads from the Ivy Leagues are acculturated to a fascistic social order.

    As for 7, I would break Google's near monopoly on search as outlined at #18. That way we'd have a much better idea of how Google are manipulating results to suppress ideas they don't like. We could also expect some useful new search engines, deploying specialized algorithms for specific purposes.

    NYT:

    “To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not O.K.”

    That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. Damore wrote nothing like that about his Google colleagues. Either Pichai is unprepared to understand the research (unlikely), is not capable of handling complex data flows (a bad trait in a C.E.O.) or was simply too afraid to stand up to a mob.

    Especially, I agree with “That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. ”

    perhaps it is, but I see nothing wrong with this nation having an honest conversation about having traits that make people less (or more) biologically suited to specific jobs and tasks and all kinds of activities, and I certainly don’t consider such a conversation “offensive and not O.K.”

    In fact I suspect that most people all know that the NBA is mostly black because blacks are better at basket ball than Asian women.

    And women are better at running and operating child care businesses than most men.

    Indians are better at writing code

    Jews are better at the linguistic labyrinth of the Bar

    Men make better designers of military jets and bricklayers, and women make better elementary school teachers

    that doesn’t mean these pursuits should be exclusive to the people best suited for them on the whole, just that if men or women are over-represented in certain fields – is not prima facia evidence of discrimination, which is the hysteria that is underling this entire debate.

    You see no one cares if blacks are overrepresented in the NBA, or women are over represented as dental hygienists, no. The entire problem, the whole reason this conversation is so wrought with triggered SJW and assorted butt-hurts, is because we’re all supposed to act like if there are more male CEOs than female CEOs, (or Marine generals, etc…) that this is irrefutable proof positive that the evil (always white) male is back to doing what he always does… discriminating against everyone else to protect his privilege!!!! Because the lie is that everyone is equal in all ways, men and women, black and white, gay or straight. And that even to notice that a person is male or female, black or white, is now evidence of the privileged bigotry of the evil patriarchy.

    and that’s all a crock of shit. And (at least here at the Unz) we should flay this idiocy once and for all. And real-talk what’s really behind all the apoplectic and triggered crybabies all blubbering about evil white males.

    the memes are weaponsed and are used to marginalize and malign and collectively destroy us (hated white males). And we should simply point out the obvious truth, which puts their lies to rest. IMHO

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    the memes are weaponised and are used to marginalize and malign and collectively destroy us (hated white males). And we should simply point out the obvious truth, which puts their lies to rest.
     
    I'm don't think obvious truth means anything to the SJWs unless it happens to suit their case. There is a war against the West, Christianity and the civilization to which it gave rise, and the enemy seeks to destroy the West by destroying the people of the West.

    And who is the enemy? Bill Clinton's history mentor Carroll Quigley coined the term Money Power. For him, that meant chiefly banks, but today it includes the likes of Google, Facebook, Apple, dynamic members of the billionaire class, such as the late David Rockefeller, George Soros, and Zuck the presidential wannabe, and Treason Party political agents such as the Clintons, the Blairs, and Canada's teenage Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau ("Canada is the first post-national state," "Canada has no core," immigrants are more worthy of Canada than the native born, etc., etc.)

    To push back means war and tough pugnacious leadership. Trump, though a minor billionaire, campaigned against the globalist money power and for the preservation of the American nation. He's also tough and pugnacious. He and might even prove to be true to his word. In which case, look for the kind of action that Israel Shamir is calling for here at the Unz Review, not fine words or faith in the power of truth.

  50. Bel Riose says:
    @CanSpeccy

    I admit to being a scoundrel and hypocrite …
     
    Good for you. I generally like an honest scoundrel.

    Think of Patton and making the other bas***d due for his country.
     
    Yes, but I don't think Damore is risking his life. It's not Hillary he's criticizing. And anyhow, from his account of it, he's well off to be outa Google's rotten workplace — however brilliant and productive the white nerds who stick around and take crap from the scoundrel feminazis and anti-white racists.

    A man with a brain doesn't need no stinking job with Google or any other shyster corporation or government agency.

    Damore's situation reminds me of the happy time, more than 30 years ago, I threw up a tenure track associate professorship at Canada's no. 1 university after just three days. Receiving the Dean's letter of appointment was the ideal pleasure. Submitting my letter of resignation was the real pleasure. And on the whole, I remained happy ever after.

    OK I gotta hear the story behind your resignation.

    Not being snarky — I genuinely love stories where someone completely rejects expectations and acts on principle (which I presume motivated your decision, but if not, I’d still like to hear the story anyway).

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    OK I gotta hear the story behind your resignation.
     
    It makes for a perhaps instructive tale to be told around the campfire on a long summer's evening, but I have nothing to say publicly to the detriment of a great institution that offered me a job, however bizarre the conditions of the particular appointment turned out to be. My point was simply that to those of intelligence and adaptability, there are always other options.
  51. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    Google is not under any legal requirement to be the stage upon which employees can advertise and debate their sociological viewpoints. Many companies explicitly forbid political or social activism.
     
    for Google to forbid political and social activism is like Goldman Sachs forbidding making profits

    Nonsense. Google is not an ACLU type of institution. At its core it’s a technology company and hires mostly coders, mathematicians, and logicians; not Jesse Jacksons.

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    for Google to forbid political and social activism is like Goldman Sachs forbidding making profits
     
    Nonsense. Google is not an ACLU type of institution. At its core it’s a technology company and hires mostly coders, mathematicians, and logicians; not Jesse Jacksons.
     
    how ironic is it Sam, that as soon as you say that, the news is exploding with outrage over Google's Orwellian tactics to control speech and thoughts and everything else that doesn't comport to its uber-liberal-progressive view of the world.

    for you not to see it Sam, is simply a manifestation of your own hyper-liberal outlook on (some) things.

    because as we all know, you openly support Zionism and its moral (as if!) underpinnings, while simultaneously excoriating white folks who don't submit to forced integration as reprehensible. You referred to white Brits and Americans who don't want to integrate with urban blacks, (like the ones we all saw in Baltimore recently) as moral reprobates.

    Aren't those your stated positions? The exact same positions held by the ADL and the SPLC and the DNC and the Jewish neocons, and Jessie Jackson and Hillary Clinton and Hollywood and all the other orifices of hatred and genocide? With their overt, and glaring and indefensible double standards, demanding ethnic purity for the Jewish supremacists + ethnic degeneration, racial hostility, strife and ultimately genocide for all white people everywhere. Huh?

    so now as it becomes brutally obvious that Google is also on the list of duplicitous, anti-white agents of the Agenda, how can you say their corporate culture is based strictly on math and technology, when this very story about Google we're both commenting on proves otherwise?
    , @CanSpeccy

    Google is not an ACLU type of institution. At its core it’s a technology company and hires mostly coders, mathematicians, and logicians; not Jesse Jacksons.
     
    You mean they do hire some Jesse Jacksons? Why?
  52. Eagle Eye says:
    @Logan
    He expressed his opinion on a company website specifically promoted as allowing googlers to express themselves and kick around ideas, no matter how strange. Something of obvious potential value to a company that thrives on innovation.

    Well, shot a pretty good hole in that, didn't they?

    If Google didn't want employees to post their opinions, they shouldn't have provided a forum and encouraged them to do exactly that. Or, if certain ideas are out of bounds, they should have stated what those are up front.

    This inconsistency, BTW, may have put them in legal trouble.

    If Google didn’t want employees to post their opinions, they shouldn’t have provided a forum and encouraged them to do exactly that. Or, if certain ideas are out of bounds, they should have stated what those are up front.

    Perhaps this interpretation is too blue-eyed.

    In a more cynical culture, this technique for identifying and annihilating dissenters has been known for more than 2,000 years under the name 指鹿為馬 “pointing to a deer as a horse.”

    Zhao Gao was contemplating treason but was afraid the other officials would not heed his commands, so he decided to test them first. He brought a deer and presented it to the Second Emperor but called it a horse. The Second Emperor laughed and said, “Is the chancellor perhaps mistaken, calling a deer a horse?” Then the emperor questioned those around him. Some remained silent, while some, hoping to ingratiate themselves with Zhao Gao, said it was a horse, and others said it was a deer. Zhao Gao secretly arranged for all those who said it was a deer to be brought before the law and had them executed instantly. Thereafter the officials were all terrified of Zhao Gao. Zhao Gao gained military power as a result of that. (tr. Watson 1993:70)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Gao#Calling_a_deer_a_horse

    No doubt there is a good equivalent in Pichai’s ancestral Indian culture.

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    Much more recently in Chinese history, Mao had a campaign of "Let a thousand flowers bloom."

    Which they did. After which he killed all of the flowers with which he disagreed.

    There is good evidence Mao didn't plan this as a way of flushing out dissidents, but that's the way it worked out.
  53. utu says:
    @Sam Shama
    Hello CanSpeccy:

    Here collected are a few thoughts. Like your opinion on these:

    1. Pichai made a terrible error of judgement in sacking Damore, for he brought upon himself an unwanted spotlight, which reveals Google's infestation by the SJW brigands.

    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    3. Men are 80% of Google's workforce, which suggests Google's hiring policies are not skewed by PC

    4. Google, whatever one may conclude regarding their ultimate motives [controlloing social thought etc] has not lagged behind anyone in pushing the technological frontiers.

    5. Google has delivered for its stockholders.

    6. Google is not under any legal requirement to be the stage upon which employees can advertise and debate their sociological viewpoints. Many companies explicitly forbid political or social activism.

    7. Google and FB etc need to be broken up by the Anti-trust arm of the government.

    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    How the IQ-ist deal with man woman difference in that their bell curves are slightly shifted and have differed standard deviations. How do they attribute it to genes? The first 22 chromosomes have statistically the same genes in both sexes. The only difference is on the 23rd. Actually women have more there than men on Y chromosome. Are there intelligence genes on the Y chromosome that account for the extremely low IQ and extremely high IQ in men and the genes that men do not have but women do on the missing part of Y chromosome control activation of the genes responsible the outliers of the bell curve?

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    Your questions are solidifying my conviction that anti-IQ people like you are simply too dumb. I have no idea why you're posting here, to be honest. You'd get more mileage out of a movie-themed Web forum.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    I doubt if "statistically the same genes" has been enough for your argument, at least since the importance of epigenetics became apparent.

    As to the X and Y chromosomes it occurs to me that men could be very high or low on sone trait because of a gene on their X chromosome corresponding to nothing on their Y chromosome whereas a female might more typically get an averaged out version of the trait. Perhaps genius is often, like baldness, a gift from Mum.

    I have not read this anywhere. It is just spplied logic with a touch of imagination.
    , @CanSpeccy

    Are there intelligence genes on the Y chromosome...?
     
    Seemingly not. The chief merit of the Y chromosome is that it includes a gene for the development of the testicles.

    However, the X chromosome has "an excess proportion of genes on the X-chromosome that are associated with the development of intelligence."

    In women, the influence of any X chromosome gene for intelligence may be modified by the action of a different allele on the homologous X chromosome. Thus a gene on one X chromosome that might contribute strongly to some mental attribute or defect will often be muted by the action of a different allele on the other X chromosome.

    In men such modulaton does not occur. Hence, the excess of males with exceptionally high and low intellectual capacities.
    , @Sam Shama
    IQ is a difficult concept and quantitative methods to measure it are likely flawed in my opinion. At population levels, I find more convincing, theories, where the 'g' factor [loosely speaking] is positively influenced by better nutrition and lowered viral load.

    I am certainly no expert on the subject, but friends who work directly in the area [and who've treated me much as white coats in a lab might mice: I have a freakish ability for geometric pattern identification] tell me that identifying a causal gene network for intelligence is rather a thankless task. The Obesity gene network, otoh, is apparently soon to be disclosed. On the Y-chrom differences, you certainly seem to have read more than I have, so let me take a squint, should be interesting.

    There are clues. Look at WizOfOz's post on this matter. The answer might reside in the MtDNA. There is some lore in the pairing traditions of a certain tribe :-) not inconsistent with that conjecture.

    Concerning the mean-variance aspects of IQ distributions between the two sexes, I can only say my personal observation and experience bears true regarding those differences. I wouldn't, at least publicly, for reasons of safety, go as far as CanSpeccy ["women are better organisers of picnics and such" :-) ], but men are better at maths and coding, while women better manipulators/intuiters of group dynamics.

    Let me stop here. I'm sure I've said enough to trigger some folks.

    , @Melendwyr
    It's not the genes that are possessed. It's the genes that are activated that matter. All it takes to turn an embryo from a female to a male is a single activated gene - that then goes on to trigger hundreds of others.
  54. 7.62mm says:

    “Google’ is not a synonym for ‘research’.”
    ― Dan Brown, The Lost Symbol

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  55. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @JustJeff
    Well obviously. No one in 2017 is stupid enough to say this stuff out loud in a corporate environment and not know they'll get fired. Maybe he just had a Falling Down moment.

    No one in 2017 is stupid enough to say this stuff out loud in a corporate environment and not know they’ll get fired. Maybe he just had a Falling Down moment.

    Or maybe he’d just had it with being pissed on by bigoted liberals and didn’t give a damn what the consequences would be of his reasoned expression of dissent.

    He may even have thought that his action would create a chance to skin the bastards in court.

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    I've noticed that whenever I can no longer respect a job or other institution (such as a university) that I'm involved with, I inevitably get ironical and then I start trolling them. It isn't a conscious choice on my part; just a pure instinct to force a confrontation that will lead to my ouster, because I am also constitutionally incapable of "quitting." I don't think that's exactly what happened here, but it's a useful paradigm to bear in mind.
  56. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    Guess you need to brand Pichai an idiot and a dumbass (in one of your later comments), though he is currently number one at the behemoth in the silicon valley while you're number one in this comment section... I can see that you're really his equal, Dumbbell!

    Guess you need to brand Pichai an idiot and a dumbass (in one of your later comments), though he is currently number one at the behemoth in the silicon valley…

    Actually, Pachy, today he looks like the number one jackass in silicon valley. As for:

    I can see that you’re really his equal

    I can assure you I’m nowhere near such a jackass as to be called out for my lies and bigotry by the New York Times.

    Perhaps your obtuseness is due to a thickness other than of the skin.

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    It's too bad that your erudition is no match for your verbiage nor wit...
    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    The NYT article says nothing to the effect of your assertions... Most likely, David Brooks is using this sordid episode to ease out the Hindu, so that one of his own can move in to deal more sternly with the unruly White Christian males at Google. Regardless, all Danore is looking for is either his fifteen minutes of fame or a hefty payout... most likely, the bum will receive both. So much for his ability!
  57. 7.62mm says:

    “Widespread acceptance of an idea is not proof of its validity.”
    ― Dan Brown, The Lost Symbol

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    Are you trying to pour doubt on that very trite idea, indeed truism, by claiming Dan Brown as your intellectual lodestar?

    Is that modesty, humour, or..... ? Or have missed something subtle?
  58. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rurik
    NYT:



    “To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not O.K.”

    That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. Damore wrote nothing like that about his Google colleagues. Either Pichai is unprepared to understand the research (unlikely), is not capable of handling complex data flows (a bad trait in a C.E.O.) or was simply too afraid to stand up to a mob.

     

    Especially, I agree with “That is a blatantly dishonest characterization of the memo. ”
     
    perhaps it is, but I see nothing wrong with this nation having an honest conversation about having traits that make people less (or more) biologically suited to specific jobs and tasks and all kinds of activities, and I certainly don't consider such a conversation "offensive and not O.K.”

    In fact I suspect that most people all know that the NBA is mostly black because blacks are better at basket ball than Asian women.

    And women are better at running and operating child care businesses than most men.

    Indians are better at writing code

    Jews are better at the linguistic labyrinth of the Bar

    Men make better designers of military jets and bricklayers, and women make better elementary school teachers

    that doesn't mean these pursuits should be exclusive to the people best suited for them on the whole, just that if men or women are over-represented in certain fields - is not prima facia evidence of discrimination, which is the hysteria that is underling this entire debate.

    You see no one cares if blacks are overrepresented in the NBA, or women are over represented as dental hygienists, no. The entire problem, the whole reason this conversation is so wrought with triggered SJW and assorted butt-hurts, is because we're all supposed to act like if there are more male CEOs than female CEOs, (or Marine generals, etc...) that this is irrefutable proof positive that the evil (always white) male is back to doing what he always does... discriminating against everyone else to protect his privilege!!!! Because the lie is that everyone is equal in all ways, men and women, black and white, gay or straight. And that even to notice that a person is male or female, black or white, is now evidence of the privileged bigotry of the evil patriarchy.

    and that's all a crock of shit. And (at least here at the Unz) we should flay this idiocy once and for all. And real-talk what's really behind all the apoplectic and triggered crybabies all blubbering about evil white males.

    the memes are weaponsed and are used to marginalize and malign and collectively destroy us (hated white males). And we should simply point out the obvious truth, which puts their lies to rest. IMHO

    the memes are weaponised and are used to marginalize and malign and collectively destroy us (hated white males). And we should simply point out the obvious truth, which puts their lies to rest.

    I’m don’t think obvious truth means anything to the SJWs unless it happens to suit their case. There is a war against the West, Christianity and the civilization to which it gave rise, and the enemy seeks to destroy the West by destroying the people of the West.

    And who is the enemy? Bill Clinton’s history mentor Carroll Quigley coined the term Money Power. For him, that meant chiefly banks, but today it includes the likes of Google, Facebook, Apple, dynamic members of the billionaire class, such as the late David Rockefeller, George Soros, and Zuck the presidential wannabe, and Treason Party political agents such as the Clintons, the Blairs, and Canada’s teenage Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau (“Canada is the first post-national state,” “Canada has no core,” immigrants are more worthy of Canada than the native born, etc., etc.)

    To push back means war and tough pugnacious leadership. Trump, though a minor billionaire, campaigned against the globalist money power and for the preservation of the American nation. He’s also tough and pugnacious. He and might even prove to be true to his word. In which case, look for the kind of action that Israel Shamir is calling for here at the Unz Review, not fine words or faith in the power of truth.

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    What do you think those Money Power people have in common that matters?

    Trying to make sense of what they, or the very rich, and transnational CEOs anyway, might have in common I come up with the idea which the Pope would endorse, in common with the Buddha and 60-80 pet cent of the world's population, namely that creating jobs and providing sustenance and shelter for Americans, or western Europeans, is no more worthy than creating jobs, shelter snd sustenance for any of God's chillun. At which point logic combines with virtue to point out that you can make your dollars go further in employing people in and from almost anywhere outside North America and the old parts of the EU.

    Rather Medieval I suppose to have a class of Christian feudal lords and knights who, except to those paying feudal dues to them, didn't have much local or national loyalty....
    , @Rurik

    There is a war against the West, Christianity and the civilization to which it gave rise, and the enemy seeks to destroy the West by destroying the people of the West.
     
    I see you stuck that in there, but whatever, it's a minor point.

    the main point: "destroying the people of the West", is the salient one. And too true.

    holy shit. He really did say that

    http://iotwreport.com/justin-truedope-believes-immigrants-are-more-canadian-than-native-born-canadians/

    reminds me of this guy

    http://i.imgur.com/MzJfGSF.png

    look for the kind of action that Israel Shamir is calling for here at the Unz Review, not fine words or faith in the power of truth.
     
    well, I see a lot of truth to that

    and I also think that if the people of the West are going to persevere, then we need more than just the Machiavellian intrigues of a single man and his administration. We need a civilizational moral compass. We need a philosophical underpinning for our right to exist. We need rhetorical armor against the slings and arrows of genocidal hatred that they've been forging for centuries.

    The entire Talmud seems little more than a blueprint for our subjugation and destruction. The mantras of the left, taught from every Western university and college campus, imbued into every Hollywood movie and Madison Ave. ad that comes out, are all seething with envious hatred for our phenotype, our heritage and our accomplishments.

    And what do we have? We have KKK imbeciles running around saying "no, God doesn't love the Jews best, he loves white rednecks best!'.

    Even Fred Reed says we've lost, and it's time to blend with the Chicanos into a nice brown race, even if he isn't quite as enthusiastic about doing it with the blacks.

    And you know what, I'd probably be OK with that, so long as it was all voluntary. and not engineered by the ((fecal government and media)), as it is and has been during my lifetime. So turn N. America into a Brazil or Puerto Rico, if it suits people. And if it stopped there.

    But it doesn't stop there. They demand that all of Europe and Scandinavia and every single last hamlet of the white race be blended out of existence for all eternity. Their hatred really is that all-consuming. Their genocidal imperative really is that psychotic, and I don't think they're ever going to relent. Ever. Until they're pushed back.

    And to push back, we need the philosophical underpinnings of a civilization (and the race that created it)- a militant reason to exist. We need a religion that isn't based on spreading the other cheek for your enemies. We need an intellectual bulwark against the Soros' and Zucks of the world. Hungary and Poland have looked down between their legs and noticed that they still have balls. We need to remember the same thing. Even it if takes the power of truth.

    I will tell you that our enemies hate truth more than anything on this planet. Their murderous schemes die like vampires in sunlight when you shine the light of truth upon their eternal lies.

    Rather than handing over N. America to the Fiend, this is going to be the battle ground for the future of the West. Because if we give in here, Europe and Australia and Iceland and New Zealand are doomed. In but a blink of history's time, if we continue on the trajectory we're on now, cannibalism will return to New Zealand, and Sydney will look like Detroit. And the planet will suffer an unimaginable hell on earth. And the Elders will have finally gotten their Orwellian dream come true.

    It's up to us.
  59. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Bel Riose
    OK I gotta hear the story behind your resignation.

    Not being snarky -- I genuinely love stories where someone completely rejects expectations and acts on principle (which I presume motivated your decision, but if not, I'd still like to hear the story anyway).

    OK I gotta hear the story behind your resignation.

    It makes for a perhaps instructive tale to be told around the campfire on a long summer’s evening, but I have nothing to say publicly to the detriment of a great institution that offered me a job, however bizarre the conditions of the particular appointment turned out to be. My point was simply that to those of intelligence and adaptability, there are always other options.

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    adaptability

    Your quitting was not a sign of adaptability.
    , @Bel Riose
    Fair enough ,and I nonetheless salute your moral courage.
  60. utu says:
    @CanSpeccy

    OK I gotta hear the story behind your resignation.
     
    It makes for a perhaps instructive tale to be told around the campfire on a long summer's evening, but I have nothing to say publicly to the detriment of a great institution that offered me a job, however bizarre the conditions of the particular appointment turned out to be. My point was simply that to those of intelligence and adaptability, there are always other options.

    adaptability

    Your quitting was not a sign of adaptability.

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    Your quitting was not a sign of adaptability.
     
    No, quitting wasn't. Becoming a publisher with, eventually, sales in more than 60 countries, when I didn't know the difference between an en dash and a hyphen, or between a linotronic and a perfector, was.
  61. Bel Riose says:
    @CanSpeccy

    OK I gotta hear the story behind your resignation.
     
    It makes for a perhaps instructive tale to be told around the campfire on a long summer's evening, but I have nothing to say publicly to the detriment of a great institution that offered me a job, however bizarre the conditions of the particular appointment turned out to be. My point was simply that to those of intelligence and adaptability, there are always other options.

    Fair enough ,and I nonetheless salute your moral courage.

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    What tells you it was either moral or courageous?
  62. @CanSpeccy

    No one in 2017 is stupid enough to say this stuff out loud in a corporate environment and not know they’ll get fired. Maybe he just had a Falling Down moment.
     
    Or maybe he'd just had it with being pissed on by bigoted liberals and didn't give a damn what the consequences would be of his reasoned expression of dissent.

    He may even have thought that his action would create a chance to skin the bastards in court.

    I’ve noticed that whenever I can no longer respect a job or other institution (such as a university) that I’m involved with, I inevitably get ironical and then I start trolling them. It isn’t a conscious choice on my part; just a pure instinct to force a confrontation that will lead to my ouster, because I am also constitutionally incapable of “quitting.” I don’t think that’s exactly what happened here, but it’s a useful paradigm to bear in mind.

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    whenever I can no longer respect a job or other institution (such as a university) that I’m involved with, I inevitably get ironical and then I start trolling them.
     
    I guess I had such a short fuse that I rarely got to that point. I went through two government jobs and a university post in my first four years after grad school.

    But I know the feeling. other than multiple bouts of self-employment, I worked for, in total, three governments, and had appointments at a number of universities, and whenever it seemed to me that the administration was failing to fulfill the avowed objectives of the institution or department that I worked for, I felt entitled to put them straight, which meant in several cases going to the top, aka, making an end run as it was called with deep disapproval. I suppose many experience the same kind of thinking in the corporate domain if the leadership consists in a bunch of two-faced humbugs.

    , @Anon
    Do you also watch porn and snudd movies by pure instinct that constutionally prevents you from quitting?
  63. @englishmike
    But if it is his voice, how does an immigrant from an Indian culture come to speak that kind of pc-sjw boilerplate?

    Was it the first version of "English" he learned to speak before the normal one other second-language learners acquire, or did he learn it "on the job", or on a training course?

    Does it feel strange when he goes back to the native language in which he first learned to communicate as a human being with other human beings?

    Is he still a human being, or has the boilerplate taken him over?

    I haven’t looked him up but I would guess that he is either (from an early àge) totally bilingual or even has English as his home language (local language spoken mainly to servants, street vendors and drivers. If that is right it becomes interesting to consider how his Indianness nonetheless prevented him behaving with honest ressonableness compared with say a NY Jew or WASP, Californin third generation Latin or Midwesterner from a small town background…. Your script will be read in the Business School’s seminar for those taking a Sociology option.

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  64. @7.62mm
    “Widespread acceptance of an idea is not proof of its validity.”
    ― Dan Brown, The Lost Symbol

    Are you trying to pour doubt on that very trite idea, indeed truism, by claiming Dan Brown as your intellectual lodestar?

    Is that modesty, humour, or….. ? Or have missed something subtle?

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  65. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @utu
    adaptability

    Your quitting was not a sign of adaptability.

    Your quitting was not a sign of adaptability.

    No, quitting wasn’t. Becoming a publisher with, eventually, sales in more than 60 countries, when I didn’t know the difference between an en dash and a hyphen, or between a linotronic and a perfector, was.

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  66. @CanSpeccy
    What the Damore incident proves, is that Internet search is too important to leave to Internet search companies. Governments should require search engine companies providing service within their territory to provide the national library with unrestricted, unfiltered access to the search provider's database. By thus creating a national data resource, governments would be making a demand on search companies analogous to the obligation they already place upon publishers to provide hard copies and digital copies of every book that they publish.

    Such a national data resource would allow the US Library of Congress and other national libraries to develop their own publicly accessible search facilities, based not on one, but on all search engine databases. Because maintaining and interrogating search engine databases consumes resources, the provision of database access to public libraries should be compensated at rates allowing a reasonable return on investment to the original database owners. In turn, national libraries should sell access to commercial search engines that offer specialized search algorithms.

    By these means, the power of corporations such as Google to exert undue influence over public access to information would be broken, and the range of data available to the public and the means by which it is accessed would be greatly enhanced.

    Was that “governments should provide”?

    Wow, and UNZ no less

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    Government regulations could be the only thing preventing your ISP from shutting off the inconvenient part of the Internet. And you can even vote for your representatives in the government (theoretically).
    , @CanSpeccy
    Your point seems obscure.

    Are you saying that you object on some principle to the idea of the US Library of Congress requiring access to Google' searchable database as it has access to every book, magazine, scholarly journal, and newspaper published in the United States? If so, what's the principle?
  67. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Intelligent Dasein
    I've noticed that whenever I can no longer respect a job or other institution (such as a university) that I'm involved with, I inevitably get ironical and then I start trolling them. It isn't a conscious choice on my part; just a pure instinct to force a confrontation that will lead to my ouster, because I am also constitutionally incapable of "quitting." I don't think that's exactly what happened here, but it's a useful paradigm to bear in mind.

    whenever I can no longer respect a job or other institution (such as a university) that I’m involved with, I inevitably get ironical and then I start trolling them.

    I guess I had such a short fuse that I rarely got to that point. I went through two government jobs and a university post in my first four years after grad school.

    But I know the feeling. other than multiple bouts of self-employment, I worked for, in total, three governments, and had appointments at a number of universities, and whenever it seemed to me that the administration was failing to fulfill the avowed objectives of the institution or department that I worked for, I felt entitled to put them straight, which meant in several cases going to the top, aka, making an end run as it was called with deep disapproval. I suppose many experience the same kind of thinking in the corporate domain if the leadership consists in a bunch of two-faced humbugs.

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  68. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Bel Riose
    Fair enough ,and I nonetheless salute your moral courage.

    What tells you it was either moral or courageous?

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  69. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Intelligent Dasein
    I've noticed that whenever I can no longer respect a job or other institution (such as a university) that I'm involved with, I inevitably get ironical and then I start trolling them. It isn't a conscious choice on my part; just a pure instinct to force a confrontation that will lead to my ouster, because I am also constitutionally incapable of "quitting." I don't think that's exactly what happened here, but it's a useful paradigm to bear in mind.

    Do you also watch porn and snudd movies by pure instinct that constutionally prevents you from quitting?

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    "snudd" = "snuff" but I only put it in anyway as respectable smokescreen.
  70. Logan says:
    @Eagle Eye

    If Google didn’t want employees to post their opinions, they shouldn’t have provided a forum and encouraged them to do exactly that. Or, if certain ideas are out of bounds, they should have stated what those are up front.
     
    Perhaps this interpretation is too blue-eyed.

    In a more cynical culture, this technique for identifying and annihilating dissenters has been known for more than 2,000 years under the name 指鹿為馬 "pointing to a deer as a horse."


    Zhao Gao was contemplating treason but was afraid the other officials would not heed his commands, so he decided to test them first. He brought a deer and presented it to the Second Emperor but called it a horse. The Second Emperor laughed and said, "Is the chancellor perhaps mistaken, calling a deer a horse?" Then the emperor questioned those around him. Some remained silent, while some, hoping to ingratiate themselves with Zhao Gao, said it was a horse, and others said it was a deer. Zhao Gao secretly arranged for all those who said it was a deer to be brought before the law and had them executed instantly. Thereafter the officials were all terrified of Zhao Gao. Zhao Gao gained military power as a result of that. (tr. Watson 1993:70)
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Gao#Calling_a_deer_a_horse

    No doubt there is a good equivalent in Pichai's ancestral Indian culture.

    Much more recently in Chinese history, Mao had a campaign of “Let a thousand flowers bloom.”

    Which they did. After which he killed all of the flowers with which he disagreed.

    There is good evidence Mao didn’t plan this as a way of flushing out dissidents, but that’s the way it worked out.

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  71. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    Do you also watch porn and snudd movies by pure instinct that constutionally prevents you from quitting?

    “snudd” = “snuff” but I only put it in anyway as respectable smokescreen.

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  72. I sometimes say that women have all the good ideas, those are just widely distributed.

    My experience is that women would rather work for and with men than other women. Several times my partners engaged in long angry struggles with other women in the work place. Never with men. Anecdote or data point?

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  73. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @utu
    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    How the IQ-ist deal with man woman difference in that their bell curves are slightly shifted and have differed standard deviations. How do they attribute it to genes? The first 22 chromosomes have statistically the same genes in both sexes. The only difference is on the 23rd. Actually women have more there than men on Y chromosome. Are there intelligence genes on the Y chromosome that account for the extremely low IQ and extremely high IQ in men and the genes that men do not have but women do on the missing part of Y chromosome control activation of the genes responsible the outliers of the bell curve?

    Your questions are solidifying my conviction that anti-IQ people like you are simply too dumb. I have no idea why you’re posting here, to be honest. You’d get more mileage out of a movie-themed Web forum.

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  74. My business looks right out to the area were the Tech companies do their team building events. I have been watching this brainwash for 15 yrs. It is beyond bizarre what these people are asked to do. They are very diverse like there might be one white person out of 10 others. They do cheerleading, echo chamber, creepy stuff.
    This is post modernism philosophy they are pushing. Facts are of no interest, just as long as everyone agrees it must be true. And they police others, all of this were Soviet tactics to control society.
    Like me on facebook!
    The worst thing that can happen is that you are excommunicated, which is why I think friends are overrated.
    lol

    A generation lost to the dumb phone, they no longer know their email username or password, the phone knows it.
    It’s 1984, the Unabomber was right, I knew it when I read his manifesto in the 90s.
    This guy has classical old Jewish stereotype looks, are they playing both sides of the street?
    I noticed he went straight to right internet popular personalities to give his interviews, people I think that are controlled opposition and Israel supporters.

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  75. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @willieskull68
    Was that "governments should provide"?

    Wow, and UNZ no less

    Government regulations could be the only thing preventing your ISP from shutting off the inconvenient part of the Internet. And you can even vote for your representatives in the government (theoretically).

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  76. Alden says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    I haven't looked him up but I would guess that he is either (from an early àge) totally bilingual or even has English as his home language (local language spoken mainly to servants, street vendors and drivers. If that is right it becomes interesting to consider how his Indianness nonetheless prevented him behaving with honest ressonableness compared with say a NY Jew or WASP, Californin third generation Latin or Midwesterner from a small town background.... Your script will be read in the Business School's seminar for those taking a Sociology option.

    He has a pretty strong accent.

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    That is rather suggestive isn't it? If you are obviously not native and you start learning how to fit in in US academe how can you even be expected to know what a principled stand reslly required? How do you think he would have behaved if he had gone to Groton or Exeter at 13 and then MIT (actually let's take less risk and send him st 12 to Btooklyn Science High (you know what I mean if my local knowledge has let me down)?
  77. @Alden
    He has a pretty strong accent.

    That is rather suggestive isn’t it? If you are obviously not native and you start learning how to fit in in US academe how can you even be expected to know what a principled stand reslly required? How do you think he would have behaved if he had gone to Groton or Exeter at 13 and then MIT (actually let’s take less risk and send him st 12 to Btooklyn Science High (you know what I mean if my local knowledge has let me down)?

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  78. @utu
    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    How the IQ-ist deal with man woman difference in that their bell curves are slightly shifted and have differed standard deviations. How do they attribute it to genes? The first 22 chromosomes have statistically the same genes in both sexes. The only difference is on the 23rd. Actually women have more there than men on Y chromosome. Are there intelligence genes on the Y chromosome that account for the extremely low IQ and extremely high IQ in men and the genes that men do not have but women do on the missing part of Y chromosome control activation of the genes responsible the outliers of the bell curve?

    I doubt if “statistically the same genes” has been enough for your argument, at least since the importance of epigenetics became apparent.

    As to the X and Y chromosomes it occurs to me that men could be very high or low on sone trait because of a gene on their X chromosome corresponding to nothing on their Y chromosome whereas a female might more typically get an averaged out version of the trait. Perhaps genius is often, like baldness, a gift from Mum.

    I have not read this anywhere. It is just spplied logic with a touch of imagination.

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  79. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @CanSpeccy

    the memes are weaponised and are used to marginalize and malign and collectively destroy us (hated white males). And we should simply point out the obvious truth, which puts their lies to rest.
     
    I'm don't think obvious truth means anything to the SJWs unless it happens to suit their case. There is a war against the West, Christianity and the civilization to which it gave rise, and the enemy seeks to destroy the West by destroying the people of the West.

    And who is the enemy? Bill Clinton's history mentor Carroll Quigley coined the term Money Power. For him, that meant chiefly banks, but today it includes the likes of Google, Facebook, Apple, dynamic members of the billionaire class, such as the late David Rockefeller, George Soros, and Zuck the presidential wannabe, and Treason Party political agents such as the Clintons, the Blairs, and Canada's teenage Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau ("Canada is the first post-national state," "Canada has no core," immigrants are more worthy of Canada than the native born, etc., etc.)

    To push back means war and tough pugnacious leadership. Trump, though a minor billionaire, campaigned against the globalist money power and for the preservation of the American nation. He's also tough and pugnacious. He and might even prove to be true to his word. In which case, look for the kind of action that Israel Shamir is calling for here at the Unz Review, not fine words or faith in the power of truth.

    What do you think those Money Power people have in common that matters?

    Trying to make sense of what they, or the very rich, and transnational CEOs anyway, might have in common I come up with the idea which the Pope would endorse, in common with the Buddha and 60-80 pet cent of the world’s population, namely that creating jobs and providing sustenance and shelter for Americans, or western Europeans, is no more worthy than creating jobs, shelter snd sustenance for any of God’s chillun. At which point logic combines with virtue to point out that you can make your dollars go further in employing people in and from almost anywhere outside North America and the old parts of the EU.

    Rather Medieval I suppose to have a class of Christian feudal lords and knights who, except to those paying feudal dues to them, didn’t have much local or national loyalty….

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    If the globalist Money Power is so philanthropic in its intent, why are they pursuing the genocide of the European people through suppressed reproduction and mass replacement immigration.

    And the Pope, who you apparently revere, is a leader in this genocidal project, advocating a one-child policy for Europe (they practically have that in Germany, Poland and many other parts of Europe already) and attacking Trump with the "bridges not walls meme", while living behind a fucking great wall.

    I am sorry, but the preposterous drivel that you are spewing reveals either childish ignorance or vile dishonesty.

  80. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @willieskull68
    Was that "governments should provide"?

    Wow, and UNZ no less

    Your point seems obscure.

    Are you saying that you object on some principle to the idea of the US Library of Congress requiring access to Google’ searchable database as it has access to every book, magazine, scholarly journal, and newspaper published in the United States? If so, what’s the principle?

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  81. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama
    Nonsense. Google is not an ACLU type of institution. At its core it's a technology company and hires mostly coders, mathematicians, and logicians; not Jesse Jacksons.

    for Google to forbid political and social activism is like Goldman Sachs forbidding making profits

    Nonsense. Google is not an ACLU type of institution. At its core it’s a technology company and hires mostly coders, mathematicians, and logicians; not Jesse Jacksons.

    how ironic is it Sam, that as soon as you say that, the news is exploding with outrage over Google’s Orwellian tactics to control speech and thoughts and everything else that doesn’t comport to its uber-liberal-progressive view of the world.

    for you not to see it Sam, is simply a manifestation of your own hyper-liberal outlook on (some) things.

    because as we all know, you openly support Zionism and its moral (as if!) underpinnings, while simultaneously excoriating white folks who don’t submit to forced integration as reprehensible. You referred to white Brits and Americans who don’t want to integrate with urban blacks, (like the ones we all saw in Baltimore recently) as moral reprobates.

    Aren’t those your stated positions? The exact same positions held by the ADL and the SPLC and the DNC and the Jewish neocons, and Jessie Jackson and Hillary Clinton and Hollywood and all the other orifices of hatred and genocide? With their overt, and glaring and indefensible double standards, demanding ethnic purity for the Jewish supremacists + ethnic degeneration, racial hostility, strife and ultimately genocide for all white people everywhere. Huh?

    so now as it becomes brutally obvious that Google is also on the list of duplicitous, anti-white agents of the Agenda, how can you say their corporate culture is based strictly on math and technology, when this very story about Google we’re both commenting on proves otherwise?

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    Rurik, try not to get hysterical. Google is a technology company which, after reaching the pinnacle of success, arrives at a place where its platform is sought by various interests [including logically, the philosophies of its leaders] to serve in the furtherance of a select set of principles beyond its main commercial interests. So why should they allow any internal opposition to those principles from their own employees? They wouldn't. Would you in your own business? Of course, if any of those values/ideologies violate the law the courts stand ready to hear complaints.

    You and I may not like it [I don't], but their commercial policies are driven by stockholder interest and keeping pressure groups in a state of controllable suspension. Not by a bill of rights extended to all those who use its search platform. If you do not like their policies, there is little you can do in a free society, beyond (a) not using their services, or, (b) exhorting the government's Antitrust Department to break them up; a notion I heartily support. Well, there is a third; you could start your own search engine enterprise and give them competition.

    What on earth are you babbling about "forced integration?". My conversations with Iffen were very clear regarding my views which you are clearly misrepresenting. I believe there is no need for Segregation. I believe in individual choice. Whites and Blacks are, for all practical purposes separated in this nation. The separation is principally on account of economic disparities. I find the notion of segregation, superfluous, archaic, uncivil, unscientific and, not to put too fine a point on it, stupid. Tell me, what would you prefer to have in a nation already populated with so many diverse peoples? Separate colonies for North Europeans, South Europeans, East Europeans, Jews, Blacks, Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Native Americans, Philipinos, Japanese, Koreans? What about those families which are mixed in race? I await your wise counsel. [A related point to keep in mind if history teaches us anything, it is that whites in Europe did not lack for strife or visiting death on each other].

    To add to my position, I believe in the idea of individual responsibility, the value of work and an economy organised around the principle of voluntary transactions. The very ideas behind American exceptionalism. In a bit of a contradiction, I am also a monarchist; but only when I find myself in England :-).

    I think whites males in this nation are under stress due to the confluence of tectonic global shifts. You are not going to get very far by pushing for half-baked ideas. There are many social imbalances and oddities, crony capitalistic laws, which afflict America today; signs of excess; shades of Rome? I don't have any clear remedies for any of these, but I can tell you the answer does not lie in some of the ideas you spout.

  82. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @ANON
    What do you think those Money Power people have in common that matters?

    Trying to make sense of what they, or the very rich, and transnational CEOs anyway, might have in common I come up with the idea which the Pope would endorse, in common with the Buddha and 60-80 pet cent of the world's population, namely that creating jobs and providing sustenance and shelter for Americans, or western Europeans, is no more worthy than creating jobs, shelter snd sustenance for any of God's chillun. At which point logic combines with virtue to point out that you can make your dollars go further in employing people in and from almost anywhere outside North America and the old parts of the EU.

    Rather Medieval I suppose to have a class of Christian feudal lords and knights who, except to those paying feudal dues to them, didn't have much local or national loyalty....

    If the globalist Money Power is so philanthropic in its intent, why are they pursuing the genocide of the European people through suppressed reproduction and mass replacement immigration.

    And the Pope, who you apparently revere, is a leader in this genocidal project, advocating a one-child policy for Europe (they practically have that in Germany, Poland and many other parts of Europe already) and attacking Trump with the “bridges not walls meme”, while living behind a fucking great wall.

    I am sorry, but the preposterous drivel that you are spewing reveals either childish ignorance or vile dishonesty.

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    If the globalist Money Power is so philanthropic in its intent, why are they pursuing the genocide of the European people through suppressed reproduction and mass replacement immigration.
     
    A little evidence to backup your assertion:

    1. Excerpt from Viktor Orbán’s speech Will Europe belong to Europeans? at the 28th Bálványos Summer Open University and Student Camp, July 22, 2017, Tusnádfürdő (Băile Tuşnad, Romania)

    What follows from this, Ladies and Gentlemen? First of all, it follows that we must see things clearly and we mustn’t overcomplicate things. We mustn’t think of the struggle facing us as being against a global conspiracy, but we should describe it and consider it in the most reasonable manner possible. This is how it is: there is a Soros plan. It comprises four points. He wrote it down himself, the Soros Empire published it (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/george-soros-heres-my-plan-to-solve-the-asylum-chaos-2015-09-29) and began recruitment for implementation of the plan. The plan says that every year hundreds of thousands migrants – and, if possible, a million – should be brought into the territory of the European Union from the Muslim world. The second point is that upon arrival every one of them should be given an amount in euros equivalent to four and a half million forints. The author of the plan would gladly finance this – but that is secondary, although it’s something that’s worth pondering. However, it’s not this, it’s not the business profit that’s the essence of the proposal, but the fact that in this way it’s possible to maintain a continuous influx. So those who want at least a million migrants to come in every year must maintain this mechanism – which in European political terminology is called a “pull factor” – so that they continue to come. And if they distribute them and everyone receives a sum – which is, in fact, higher than the Hungarian annual average wage – there won’t be a problem with reduced flow. The third point in the Soros plan is that the migrants arriving on the continent will have to be distributed among the countries of Europe as part of a mandatory and permanent mechanism. The fourth point is that a European immigration agency should be set up which will take all the decision-making powers related to migrant affairs away from the nation states and raise them to the level of Brussels. This is the Soros plan.
    Now if we speak about the future of Europe, we must first state in no uncertain terms that in order for Europe to be able to survive and remain the Europeans’ continent, the European Unio

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/07/will-europe-belong-to-europeans/#more-73696



    2. Excerpt from How George Soros Singlehandedly Created The European Refugee Crisis - And Why

    His Latest Success: the European Refugee Crisis

    Soros’s agenda is fundamentally about the destruction of national borders. This has recently been shown very clearly with his funding of the European refugee crisis.

    The refugee crisis has been blamed on the civil war currently raging in Syria. But did you ever wonder how all these people suddenly knew Europe would open its gates and let them in?

    The refugee crisis is not a naturally occurring phenomenon. It coincided with OSF [Open Society Foundations] donating money to the US-based Migration Policy Institute and the Platform for International Cooperation on Undocumented Migrants, both Soros-sponsored organizations. Both groups advocate the resettlement of third-world Muslims into Europe.

    In 2015, a Sky News reporter found “Migrant Handbooks” on the Greek island of Lesbos. It was later revealed that the handbooks, which are written in Arabic, had been given to refugees before crossing the Mediterranean by a group called “Welcome to the EU.”

    Welcome to the EU is funded by—you guessed it—the Open Society Foundations.

    Soros has not only backed groups that advocate the resettlement of third-world migrants into Europe, he in fact is the architect of the “Merkel Plan.”

    The Merkel Plan was created by the European Stability Initiative whose chairman Gerald Knaus is a senior fellow at none other than the Open Society Foundations.

    The plan proposes that Germany should grant asylum to 500,000 Syrian refugees. It also states that Germany, along with other European nations, should agree to help Turkey, a country that’s 98% Muslim, gain visa-free travel within the EU starting in 2016.

    Political Discourse

    The refugee crisis has raised huge concern in European countries like Hungary.

    In response to 7,000 migrants entering Hungarian territory per day in 2015, the Hungarian government reestablished border control in order to keep the hordes of refugees from entering the country.

    Of course this did not go down well with Soros and his close allies, the Clintons.

    Bill Clinton has since come out and accused both Poland and Hungary of thinking “democracy is too much trouble” and wanting to have a “Putin-like authoritarian dictatorship.”

    Seeing through Clinton’s comments, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán responded by saying, “The remarks made about Hungary and Poland … have a political dimension. These are not accidental slips of the tongue. And these slips or remarks have been multiplying since we are living in the era of the migrant crisis. And we all know that behind the leaders of the Democratic Party, we have to see George Soros.”

    He went on to say that “although the mouth belongs to Clinton, the voice belongs to Soros.”

    Soros has since said of Orbán’s policy toward the migrants: “His plan treats the protection of national borders as the objective and the refugees as an obstacle. Our plan treats the protection of refugees as the objective and national borders as the obstacle.”

    It’s hard to imagine that he could be any clearer in his globalist intentions.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/how-george-soros-singlehandedly-created-european-refugee-crisis-and-why

    3. Left-wing billionaire’s think-tank aims to use migrant crisis to influence immigration policies worldwide: Plans of George Soros's think-tank are revealed in leaked memo

    Left-wing billionaire financier George Soros recently accused Angela Merkel of bringing 'chaos' to Europe through her open-door immigration policy.

    But it’s emerged through leaked documents that his think-tank Open Society Foundations (OSF) sees Europe’s refugee crisis as an opportunity - a chance to influence immigration policies worldwide and collaborate with other wealthy donors.

    In a memo called ‘Migration Governance and Enforcement Portfolio Review’, OSF states that the immigration crisis in Europe is the ‘new normal’

    It has ‘created space to reconsider the governance of migration and the international refugee regime’.

    It presents, the Foundation argues, ‘new opportunities for reforming migration governance at the global level, whether through the existing multi-lateral system, or by bringing together a range of actors to think more innovatively’.

    The Foundation says that its ‘investment in global work’ means that it has the ‘right partners’ and is in a position to ‘help others navigate this space’.

    The memo adds that 'the refugee crisis is opening new opportunities... for coordination and collaboration' with other rich organisations.

    It was only recently that Soros, who ‘broke the Bank of England’ in 1992, said that the German Chancellor’s decision to 'open her country's doors wide to refugees' was 'not properly thought out'.

    Soros, 85, said a 'lack of adequate controls sparked panic across the continent' and that the European migration crisis and Brexit debate then 'fed on each other'.

    He said: 'German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision to open her country’s doors wide to refugees was an inspiring gesture, but it was not properly thought out, because it ignored the pull factor.

    'A sudden influx of asylum-seekers disrupted people in their everyday lives across the EU.

    'The lack of adequate controls, moreover, created panic, affecting everyone: the local population, the authorities in charge of public safety, and the refugees themselves.'

    He said the Leave campaign in Britain exploited the deteriorating refugee situation to stoke fears of 'uncontrolled immigration' from other EU member states.

    The OSF claims on its website that it works ‘to build vibrant and tolerant societies whose governments are accountable and open to the participation of all people’.

    It says: ‘We seek to strengthen the rule of law; respect for human rights, minorities, and a diversity of opinions; democratically elected governments; and a civil society that helps keep government power in check.

    ‘We help to shape public policies that assure greater fairness in political, legal, and economic systems and safeguard fundamental rights.’

    The OSF told MailOnline: 'We are committed to making sure that anyone who chooses to migrate—regardless of motivation—is able to do so safely and with dignity. The ongoing crises in the Mediterranean, Asia, and at the U.S./Mexico border have exposed the failure of institutions and societies to respond effectively to the plight of migrants.

    'In the face of rising xenophobia and hostility toward migrants, we support local organizations and policymakers who are working to ensure vulnerable populations are protected, that migrants are empowered to contribute to host societies and home countries, and that migrant voices are heard.'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3743479/Left-wing-billionaire-group-s-plan-use-migrant-crisis-influence-immigration-policies-worldwide-Plans-George-Soros-s-think-tank-revealed-leaked-memo.html
     
    , @ANON
    I think you said in one of your comments that you had had "a short fuse". I don't see that you have changed from what I read of your intemperate language and ill considered snap judgments.

    You have not the slightest reason to suppose that I "revere" the Pope and in fact my atheist indifference to the core of his mission means that I am unaware of his one child policy for Europe. Actually I think you are making that up, presumably in a paddy after your short fuse ignited something.

    More embarrassing for you: you didn't even sense the possibility of irony.
  83. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Sam Shama
    Nonsense. Google is not an ACLU type of institution. At its core it's a technology company and hires mostly coders, mathematicians, and logicians; not Jesse Jacksons.

    Google is not an ACLU type of institution. At its core it’s a technology company and hires mostly coders, mathematicians, and logicians; not Jesse Jacksons.

    You mean they do hire some Jesse Jacksons? Why?

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    Well yes, this is true. As one would expect, these tech companies are disproportionately male and Asian which has resulted in all the predictable headaches. I recall reading somewhere Jesse Jackson and Sharpton have managed to negotiate quite handsome Danegeld from them, to say nothing of imposed quota based employment for their constituencies. It's a shame, but I suppose one could view it as a cost of doing business.
  84. @englishmike
    If you accessed Damore's memo via "Gizmodo", you probably know that their version did not include his graphs and his links to scholarly sources which supported key parts of his argument. Having deleted them, Gizmodo then criticized the memo for its lack of empirical support.

    I found a pdf version of the original memo retweeted, by Ann Coulter on her Twitter account, from Steve Stewart Williams @SteveStuWill.

    About ten minutes after posting my comment, I discovered that Steve Sailer had also “tweeted” a link to the unedited version of Damore’s memo (although not the downloadable pdf version).

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  85. @CanSpeccy

    Guess you need to brand Pichai an idiot and a dumbass (in one of your later comments), though he is currently number one at the behemoth in the silicon valley...
     
    Actually, Pachy, today he looks like the number one jackass in silicon valley. As for:

    I can see that you’re really his equal
     
    I can assure you I'm nowhere near such a jackass as to be called out for my lies and bigotry by the New York Times.

    Perhaps your obtuseness is due to a thickness other than of the skin.

    It’s too bad that your erudition is no match for your verbiage nor wit…

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  86. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @utu
    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    How the IQ-ist deal with man woman difference in that their bell curves are slightly shifted and have differed standard deviations. How do they attribute it to genes? The first 22 chromosomes have statistically the same genes in both sexes. The only difference is on the 23rd. Actually women have more there than men on Y chromosome. Are there intelligence genes on the Y chromosome that account for the extremely low IQ and extremely high IQ in men and the genes that men do not have but women do on the missing part of Y chromosome control activation of the genes responsible the outliers of the bell curve?

    Are there intelligence genes on the Y chromosome…?

    Seemingly not. The chief merit of the Y chromosome is that it includes a gene for the development of the testicles.

    However, the X chromosome has “an excess proportion of genes on the X-chromosome that are associated with the development of intelligence.

    In women, the influence of any X chromosome gene for intelligence may be modified by the action of a different allele on the homologous X chromosome. Thus a gene on one X chromosome that might contribute strongly to some mental attribute or defect will often be muted by the action of a different allele on the other X chromosome.

    In men such modulaton does not occur. Hence, the excess of males with exceptionally high and low intellectual capacities.

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  87. Rurik says:
    @CanSpeccy

    the memes are weaponised and are used to marginalize and malign and collectively destroy us (hated white males). And we should simply point out the obvious truth, which puts their lies to rest.
     
    I'm don't think obvious truth means anything to the SJWs unless it happens to suit their case. There is a war against the West, Christianity and the civilization to which it gave rise, and the enemy seeks to destroy the West by destroying the people of the West.

    And who is the enemy? Bill Clinton's history mentor Carroll Quigley coined the term Money Power. For him, that meant chiefly banks, but today it includes the likes of Google, Facebook, Apple, dynamic members of the billionaire class, such as the late David Rockefeller, George Soros, and Zuck the presidential wannabe, and Treason Party political agents such as the Clintons, the Blairs, and Canada's teenage Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau ("Canada is the first post-national state," "Canada has no core," immigrants are more worthy of Canada than the native born, etc., etc.)

    To push back means war and tough pugnacious leadership. Trump, though a minor billionaire, campaigned against the globalist money power and for the preservation of the American nation. He's also tough and pugnacious. He and might even prove to be true to his word. In which case, look for the kind of action that Israel Shamir is calling for here at the Unz Review, not fine words or faith in the power of truth.

    There is a war against the West, Christianity and the civilization to which it gave rise, and the enemy seeks to destroy the West by destroying the people of the West.

    I see you stuck that in there, but whatever, it’s a minor point.

    the main point: “destroying the people of the West”, is the salient one. And too true.

    holy shit. He really did say that

    http://iotwreport.com/justin-truedope-believes-immigrants-are-more-canadian-than-native-born-canadians/

    reminds me of this guy

    look for the kind of action that Israel Shamir is calling for here at the Unz Review, not fine words or faith in the power of truth.

    well, I see a lot of truth to that

    and I also think that if the people of the West are going to persevere, then we need more than just the Machiavellian intrigues of a single man and his administration. We need a civilizational moral compass. We need a philosophical underpinning for our right to exist. We need rhetorical armor against the slings and arrows of genocidal hatred that they’ve been forging for centuries.

    The entire Talmud seems little more than a blueprint for our subjugation and destruction. The mantras of the left, taught from every Western university and college campus, imbued into every Hollywood movie and Madison Ave. ad that comes out, are all seething with envious hatred for our phenotype, our heritage and our accomplishments.

    And what do we have? We have KKK imbeciles running around saying “no, God doesn’t love the Jews best, he loves white rednecks best!’.

    Even Fred Reed says we’ve lost, and it’s time to blend with the Chicanos into a nice brown race, even if he isn’t quite as enthusiastic about doing it with the blacks.

    And you know what, I’d probably be OK with that, so long as it was all voluntary. and not engineered by the ((fecal government and media)), as it is and has been during my lifetime. So turn N. America into a Brazil or Puerto Rico, if it suits people. And if it stopped there.

    But it doesn’t stop there. They demand that all of Europe and Scandinavia and every single last hamlet of the white race be blended out of existence for all eternity. Their hatred really is that all-consuming. Their genocidal imperative really is that psychotic, and I don’t think they’re ever going to relent. Ever. Until they’re pushed back.

    And to push back, we need the philosophical underpinnings of a civilization (and the race that created it)- a militant reason to exist. We need a religion that isn’t based on spreading the other cheek for your enemies. We need an intellectual bulwark against the Soros’ and Zucks of the world. Hungary and Poland have looked down between their legs and noticed that they still have balls. We need to remember the same thing. Even it if takes the power of truth.

    I will tell you that our enemies hate truth more than anything on this planet. Their murderous schemes die like vampires in sunlight when you shine the light of truth upon their eternal lies.

    Rather than handing over N. America to the Fiend, this is going to be the battle ground for the future of the West. Because if we give in here, Europe and Australia and Iceland and New Zealand are doomed. In but a blink of history’s time, if we continue on the trajectory we’re on now, cannibalism will return to New Zealand, and Sydney will look like Detroit. And the planet will suffer an unimaginable hell on earth. And the Elders will have finally gotten their Orwellian dream come true.

    It’s up to us.

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    looks like early 1930s Berlin

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4783914/White-nationalists-hold-torch-lit-march-UVA-campus.html
    , @CanSpeccy
    Re: Former Swedish PM: Sweden belongs to the immigrants - not the Swedes.

    Wonder what the son-of-a-bitch traitor was paid, and by whom, for saying that.

    , @Anonymous

    But it doesn’t stop there. They demand that all of Europe and Scandinavia and every single last hamlet of the white race be blended out of existence for all eternity. Their hatred really is that all-consuming. Their genocidal imperative really is that psychotic, and I don’t think they’re ever going to relent. Ever. Until they’re pushed back.
     
    No, they won't relent on their own and it's going to get much worse if we let them. The white race is set to be destroyed either directly or via miscegenation. The goal is the global, easily controllable, chicken farm with <90 IQ chickens. So let's take a look:

    https://kek.gg/i/5q8mvC.png

    Even before the US, Canada, Europe and Australia turn fully yellow we can see a huge problem for the planners - namely: Russia and China. There's no way they'll allow those countries to attain a 10-15 IQ points advantage over the globalist chicken farm. Kinda' puts into perspective the MSM's insistence that those two countries represent the biggest threat to "peace, freedom and democracy", doesn't it? It also explains the massive, sustained build-up of First Strike (pre-emptive) nuclear capabilities in certain areas of the World. Something to think about.

    https://kek.gg/i/6vqrqG.jpg
  88. @CanSpeccy

    Guess you need to brand Pichai an idiot and a dumbass (in one of your later comments), though he is currently number one at the behemoth in the silicon valley...
     
    Actually, Pachy, today he looks like the number one jackass in silicon valley. As for:

    I can see that you’re really his equal
     
    I can assure you I'm nowhere near such a jackass as to be called out for my lies and bigotry by the New York Times.

    Perhaps your obtuseness is due to a thickness other than of the skin.

    The NYT article says nothing to the effect of your assertions… Most likely, David Brooks is using this sordid episode to ease out the Hindu, so that one of his own can move in to deal more sternly with the unruly White Christian males at Google. Regardless, all Danore is looking for is either his fifteen minutes of fame or a hefty payout… most likely, the bum will receive both. So much for his ability!

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    Regardless, all Danore [sic] is looking for is either his fifteen minutes of fame or a hefty payout…
     
    As if you knew.
  89. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    There is a war against the West, Christianity and the civilization to which it gave rise, and the enemy seeks to destroy the West by destroying the people of the West.
     
    I see you stuck that in there, but whatever, it's a minor point.

    the main point: "destroying the people of the West", is the salient one. And too true.

    holy shit. He really did say that

    http://iotwreport.com/justin-truedope-believes-immigrants-are-more-canadian-than-native-born-canadians/

    reminds me of this guy

    http://i.imgur.com/MzJfGSF.png

    look for the kind of action that Israel Shamir is calling for here at the Unz Review, not fine words or faith in the power of truth.
     
    well, I see a lot of truth to that

    and I also think that if the people of the West are going to persevere, then we need more than just the Machiavellian intrigues of a single man and his administration. We need a civilizational moral compass. We need a philosophical underpinning for our right to exist. We need rhetorical armor against the slings and arrows of genocidal hatred that they've been forging for centuries.

    The entire Talmud seems little more than a blueprint for our subjugation and destruction. The mantras of the left, taught from every Western university and college campus, imbued into every Hollywood movie and Madison Ave. ad that comes out, are all seething with envious hatred for our phenotype, our heritage and our accomplishments.

    And what do we have? We have KKK imbeciles running around saying "no, God doesn't love the Jews best, he loves white rednecks best!'.

    Even Fred Reed says we've lost, and it's time to blend with the Chicanos into a nice brown race, even if he isn't quite as enthusiastic about doing it with the blacks.

    And you know what, I'd probably be OK with that, so long as it was all voluntary. and not engineered by the ((fecal government and media)), as it is and has been during my lifetime. So turn N. America into a Brazil or Puerto Rico, if it suits people. And if it stopped there.

    But it doesn't stop there. They demand that all of Europe and Scandinavia and every single last hamlet of the white race be blended out of existence for all eternity. Their hatred really is that all-consuming. Their genocidal imperative really is that psychotic, and I don't think they're ever going to relent. Ever. Until they're pushed back.

    And to push back, we need the philosophical underpinnings of a civilization (and the race that created it)- a militant reason to exist. We need a religion that isn't based on spreading the other cheek for your enemies. We need an intellectual bulwark against the Soros' and Zucks of the world. Hungary and Poland have looked down between their legs and noticed that they still have balls. We need to remember the same thing. Even it if takes the power of truth.

    I will tell you that our enemies hate truth more than anything on this planet. Their murderous schemes die like vampires in sunlight when you shine the light of truth upon their eternal lies.

    Rather than handing over N. America to the Fiend, this is going to be the battle ground for the future of the West. Because if we give in here, Europe and Australia and Iceland and New Zealand are doomed. In but a blink of history's time, if we continue on the trajectory we're on now, cannibalism will return to New Zealand, and Sydney will look like Detroit. And the planet will suffer an unimaginable hell on earth. And the Elders will have finally gotten their Orwellian dream come true.

    It's up to us.
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  90. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    The NYT article says nothing to the effect of your assertions... Most likely, David Brooks is using this sordid episode to ease out the Hindu, so that one of his own can move in to deal more sternly with the unruly White Christian males at Google. Regardless, all Danore is looking for is either his fifteen minutes of fame or a hefty payout... most likely, the bum will receive both. So much for his ability!

    Regardless, all Danore [sic] is looking for is either his fifteen minutes of fame or a hefty payout…

    As if you knew.

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  91. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rurik

    There is a war against the West, Christianity and the civilization to which it gave rise, and the enemy seeks to destroy the West by destroying the people of the West.
     
    I see you stuck that in there, but whatever, it's a minor point.

    the main point: "destroying the people of the West", is the salient one. And too true.

    holy shit. He really did say that

    http://iotwreport.com/justin-truedope-believes-immigrants-are-more-canadian-than-native-born-canadians/

    reminds me of this guy

    http://i.imgur.com/MzJfGSF.png

    look for the kind of action that Israel Shamir is calling for here at the Unz Review, not fine words or faith in the power of truth.
     
    well, I see a lot of truth to that

    and I also think that if the people of the West are going to persevere, then we need more than just the Machiavellian intrigues of a single man and his administration. We need a civilizational moral compass. We need a philosophical underpinning for our right to exist. We need rhetorical armor against the slings and arrows of genocidal hatred that they've been forging for centuries.

    The entire Talmud seems little more than a blueprint for our subjugation and destruction. The mantras of the left, taught from every Western university and college campus, imbued into every Hollywood movie and Madison Ave. ad that comes out, are all seething with envious hatred for our phenotype, our heritage and our accomplishments.

    And what do we have? We have KKK imbeciles running around saying "no, God doesn't love the Jews best, he loves white rednecks best!'.

    Even Fred Reed says we've lost, and it's time to blend with the Chicanos into a nice brown race, even if he isn't quite as enthusiastic about doing it with the blacks.

    And you know what, I'd probably be OK with that, so long as it was all voluntary. and not engineered by the ((fecal government and media)), as it is and has been during my lifetime. So turn N. America into a Brazil or Puerto Rico, if it suits people. And if it stopped there.

    But it doesn't stop there. They demand that all of Europe and Scandinavia and every single last hamlet of the white race be blended out of existence for all eternity. Their hatred really is that all-consuming. Their genocidal imperative really is that psychotic, and I don't think they're ever going to relent. Ever. Until they're pushed back.

    And to push back, we need the philosophical underpinnings of a civilization (and the race that created it)- a militant reason to exist. We need a religion that isn't based on spreading the other cheek for your enemies. We need an intellectual bulwark against the Soros' and Zucks of the world. Hungary and Poland have looked down between their legs and noticed that they still have balls. We need to remember the same thing. Even it if takes the power of truth.

    I will tell you that our enemies hate truth more than anything on this planet. Their murderous schemes die like vampires in sunlight when you shine the light of truth upon their eternal lies.

    Rather than handing over N. America to the Fiend, this is going to be the battle ground for the future of the West. Because if we give in here, Europe and Australia and Iceland and New Zealand are doomed. In but a blink of history's time, if we continue on the trajectory we're on now, cannibalism will return to New Zealand, and Sydney will look like Detroit. And the planet will suffer an unimaginable hell on earth. And the Elders will have finally gotten their Orwellian dream come true.

    It's up to us.

    Re: Former Swedish PM: Sweden belongs to the immigrants – not the Swedes.

    Wonder what the son-of-a-bitch traitor was paid, and by whom, for saying that.

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  92. geokat62 says:
    @CanSpeccy
    If the globalist Money Power is so philanthropic in its intent, why are they pursuing the genocide of the European people through suppressed reproduction and mass replacement immigration.

    And the Pope, who you apparently revere, is a leader in this genocidal project, advocating a one-child policy for Europe (they practically have that in Germany, Poland and many other parts of Europe already) and attacking Trump with the "bridges not walls meme", while living behind a fucking great wall.

    I am sorry, but the preposterous drivel that you are spewing reveals either childish ignorance or vile dishonesty.

    If the globalist Money Power is so philanthropic in its intent, why are they pursuing the genocide of the European people through suppressed reproduction and mass replacement immigration.

    A little evidence to backup your assertion:

    1. Excerpt from Viktor Orbán’s speech Will Europe belong to Europeans? at the 28th Bálványos Summer Open University and Student Camp, July 22, 2017, Tusnádfürdő (Băile Tuşnad, Romania)

    What follows from this, Ladies and Gentlemen? First of all, it follows that we must see things clearly and we mustn’t overcomplicate things. We mustn’t think of the struggle facing us as being against a global conspiracy, but we should describe it and consider it in the most reasonable manner possible. This is how it is: there is a Soros plan. It comprises four points. He wrote it down himself, the Soros Empire published it (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/george-soros-heres-my-plan-to-solve-the-asylum-chaos-2015-09-29) and began recruitment for implementation of the plan. The plan says that every year hundreds of thousands migrants – and, if possible, a million – should be brought into the territory of the European Union from the Muslim world. The second point is that upon arrival every one of them should be given an amount in euros equivalent to four and a half million forints. The author of the plan would gladly finance this – but that is secondary, although it’s something that’s worth pondering. However, it’s not this, it’s not the business profit that’s the essence of the proposal, but the fact that in this way it’s possible to maintain a continuous influx. So those who want at least a million migrants to come in every year must maintain this mechanism – which in European political terminology is called a “pull factor” – so that they continue to come. And if they distribute them and everyone receives a sum – which is, in fact, higher than the Hungarian annual average wage – there won’t be a problem with reduced flow. The third point in the Soros plan is that the migrants arriving on the continent will have to be distributed among the countries of Europe as part of a mandatory and permanent mechanism. The fourth point is that a European immigration agency should be set up which will take all the decision-making powers related to migrant affairs away from the nation states and raise them to the level of Brussels. This is the Soros plan.
    Now if we speak about the future of Europe, we must first state in no uncertain terms that in order for Europe to be able to survive and remain the Europeans’ continent, the European Unio

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/07/will-europe-belong-to-europeans/#more-73696

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    Thanks for the link to the text of Orban's speech.

    It is difficult to believe the impression widely given that Soros is single-handedly financing the genocide the European people. Moreover, it seems contrary to his nature to give away a cent, let alone billions. So could it be that the man, who seems now to be quite senile, is merely a front for the CIA, perhaps, or the US State Department?

  93. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @geokat62

    If the globalist Money Power is so philanthropic in its intent, why are they pursuing the genocide of the European people through suppressed reproduction and mass replacement immigration.
     
    A little evidence to backup your assertion:

    1. Excerpt from Viktor Orbán’s speech Will Europe belong to Europeans? at the 28th Bálványos Summer Open University and Student Camp, July 22, 2017, Tusnádfürdő (Băile Tuşnad, Romania)

    What follows from this, Ladies and Gentlemen? First of all, it follows that we must see things clearly and we mustn’t overcomplicate things. We mustn’t think of the struggle facing us as being against a global conspiracy, but we should describe it and consider it in the most reasonable manner possible. This is how it is: there is a Soros plan. It comprises four points. He wrote it down himself, the Soros Empire published it (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/george-soros-heres-my-plan-to-solve-the-asylum-chaos-2015-09-29) and began recruitment for implementation of the plan. The plan says that every year hundreds of thousands migrants – and, if possible, a million – should be brought into the territory of the European Union from the Muslim world. The second point is that upon arrival every one of them should be given an amount in euros equivalent to four and a half million forints. The author of the plan would gladly finance this – but that is secondary, although it’s something that’s worth pondering. However, it’s not this, it’s not the business profit that’s the essence of the proposal, but the fact that in this way it’s possible to maintain a continuous influx. So those who want at least a million migrants to come in every year must maintain this mechanism – which in European political terminology is called a “pull factor” – so that they continue to come. And if they distribute them and everyone receives a sum – which is, in fact, higher than the Hungarian annual average wage – there won’t be a problem with reduced flow. The third point in the Soros plan is that the migrants arriving on the continent will have to be distributed among the countries of Europe as part of a mandatory and permanent mechanism. The fourth point is that a European immigration agency should be set up which will take all the decision-making powers related to migrant affairs away from the nation states and raise them to the level of Brussels. This is the Soros plan.
    Now if we speak about the future of Europe, we must first state in no uncertain terms that in order for Europe to be able to survive and remain the Europeans’ continent, the European Unio

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/07/will-europe-belong-to-europeans/#more-73696



    2. Excerpt from How George Soros Singlehandedly Created The European Refugee Crisis - And Why

    His Latest Success: the European Refugee Crisis

    Soros’s agenda is fundamentally about the destruction of national borders. This has recently been shown very clearly with his funding of the European refugee crisis.

    The refugee crisis has been blamed on the civil war currently raging in Syria. But did you ever wonder how all these people suddenly knew Europe would open its gates and let them in?

    The refugee crisis is not a naturally occurring phenomenon. It coincided with OSF [Open Society Foundations] donating money to the US-based Migration Policy Institute and the Platform for International Cooperation on Undocumented Migrants, both Soros-sponsored organizations. Both groups advocate the resettlement of third-world Muslims into Europe.

    In 2015, a Sky News reporter found “Migrant Handbooks” on the Greek island of Lesbos. It was later revealed that the handbooks, which are written in Arabic, had been given to refugees before crossing the Mediterranean by a group called “Welcome to the EU.”

    Welcome to the EU is funded by—you guessed it—the Open Society Foundations.

    Soros has not only backed groups that advocate the resettlement of third-world migrants into Europe, he in fact is the architect of the “Merkel Plan.”

    The Merkel Plan was created by the European Stability Initiative whose chairman Gerald Knaus is a senior fellow at none other than the Open Society Foundations.

    The plan proposes that Germany should grant asylum to 500,000 Syrian refugees. It also states that Germany, along with other European nations, should agree to help Turkey, a country that’s 98% Muslim, gain visa-free travel within the EU starting in 2016.

    Political Discourse

    The refugee crisis has raised huge concern in European countries like Hungary.

    In response to 7,000 migrants entering Hungarian territory per day in 2015, the Hungarian government reestablished border control in order to keep the hordes of refugees from entering the country.

    Of course this did not go down well with Soros and his close allies, the Clintons.

    Bill Clinton has since come out and accused both Poland and Hungary of thinking “democracy is too much trouble” and wanting to have a “Putin-like authoritarian dictatorship.”

    Seeing through Clinton’s comments, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán responded by saying, “The remarks made about Hungary and Poland … have a political dimension. These are not accidental slips of the tongue. And these slips or remarks have been multiplying since we are living in the era of the migrant crisis. And we all know that behind the leaders of the Democratic Party, we have to see George Soros.”

    He went on to say that “although the mouth belongs to Clinton, the voice belongs to Soros.”

    Soros has since said of Orbán’s policy toward the migrants: “His plan treats the protection of national borders as the objective and the refugees as an obstacle. Our plan treats the protection of refugees as the objective and national borders as the obstacle.”

    It’s hard to imagine that he could be any clearer in his globalist intentions.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/how-george-soros-singlehandedly-created-european-refugee-crisis-and-why

    3. Left-wing billionaire’s think-tank aims to use migrant crisis to influence immigration policies worldwide: Plans of George Soros's think-tank are revealed in leaked memo

    Left-wing billionaire financier George Soros recently accused Angela Merkel of bringing 'chaos' to Europe through her open-door immigration policy.

    But it’s emerged through leaked documents that his think-tank Open Society Foundations (OSF) sees Europe’s refugee crisis as an opportunity - a chance to influence immigration policies worldwide and collaborate with other wealthy donors.

    In a memo called ‘Migration Governance and Enforcement Portfolio Review’, OSF states that the immigration crisis in Europe is the ‘new normal’

    It has ‘created space to reconsider the governance of migration and the international refugee regime’.

    It presents, the Foundation argues, ‘new opportunities for reforming migration governance at the global level, whether through the existing multi-lateral system, or by bringing together a range of actors to think more innovatively’.

    The Foundation says that its ‘investment in global work’ means that it has the ‘right partners’ and is in a position to ‘help others navigate this space’.

    The memo adds that 'the refugee crisis is opening new opportunities... for coordination and collaboration' with other rich organisations.

    It was only recently that Soros, who ‘broke the Bank of England’ in 1992, said that the German Chancellor’s decision to 'open her country's doors wide to refugees' was 'not properly thought out'.

    Soros, 85, said a 'lack of adequate controls sparked panic across the continent' and that the European migration crisis and Brexit debate then 'fed on each other'.

    He said: 'German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision to open her country’s doors wide to refugees was an inspiring gesture, but it was not properly thought out, because it ignored the pull factor.

    'A sudden influx of asylum-seekers disrupted people in their everyday lives across the EU.

    'The lack of adequate controls, moreover, created panic, affecting everyone: the local population, the authorities in charge of public safety, and the refugees themselves.'

    He said the Leave campaign in Britain exploited the deteriorating refugee situation to stoke fears of 'uncontrolled immigration' from other EU member states.

    The OSF claims on its website that it works ‘to build vibrant and tolerant societies whose governments are accountable and open to the participation of all people’.

    It says: ‘We seek to strengthen the rule of law; respect for human rights, minorities, and a diversity of opinions; democratically elected governments; and a civil society that helps keep government power in check.

    ‘We help to shape public policies that assure greater fairness in political, legal, and economic systems and safeguard fundamental rights.’

    The OSF told MailOnline: 'We are committed to making sure that anyone who chooses to migrate—regardless of motivation—is able to do so safely and with dignity. The ongoing crises in the Mediterranean, Asia, and at the U.S./Mexico border have exposed the failure of institutions and societies to respond effectively to the plight of migrants.

    'In the face of rising xenophobia and hostility toward migrants, we support local organizations and policymakers who are working to ensure vulnerable populations are protected, that migrants are empowered to contribute to host societies and home countries, and that migrant voices are heard.'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3743479/Left-wing-billionaire-group-s-plan-use-migrant-crisis-influence-immigration-policies-worldwide-Plans-George-Soros-s-think-tank-revealed-leaked-memo.html
     

    Thanks for the link to the text of Orban’s speech.

    It is difficult to believe the impression widely given that Soros is single-handedly financing the genocide the European people. Moreover, it seems contrary to his nature to give away a cent, let alone billions. So could it be that the man, who seems now to be quite senile, is merely a front for the CIA, perhaps, or the US State Department?

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    It is difficult to believe the impression widely given that Soros is single-handedly financing the genocide the European people.
     
    Funny you should mention that, as that is exactly what the title - How George Soros Singlehandedly Created The European Refugee Crisis - And Why- of this ZeroHedge article suggests.

    Here's an excerpt:

    His Latest Success: the European Refugee Crisis

    Soros’s agenda is fundamentally about the destruction of national borders. This has recently been shown very clearly with his funding of the European refugee crisis.

    The refugee crisis has been blamed on the civil war currently raging in Syria. But did you ever wonder how all these people suddenly knew Europe would open its gates and let them in?

    The refugee crisis is not a naturally occurring phenomenon. It coincided with OSF [Open Society Foundations] donating money to the US-based Migration Policy Institute and the Platform for International Cooperation on Undocumented Migrants, both Soros-sponsored organizations. Both groups advocate the resettlement of third-world Muslims into Europe.

    In 2015, a Sky News reporter found “Migrant Handbooks” on the Greek island of Lesbos. It was later revealed that the handbooks, which are written in Arabic, had been given to refugees before crossing the Mediterranean by a group called “Welcome to the EU.”

    Welcome to the EU is funded by—you guessed it—the Open Society Foundations.

    Soros has not only backed groups that advocate the resettlement of third-world migrants into Europe, he in fact is the architect of the “Merkel Plan.”

    The Merkel Plan was created by the European Stability Initiative whose chairman Gerald Knaus is a senior fellow at none other than the Open Society Foundations.

    The plan proposes that Germany should grant asylum to 500,000 Syrian refugees. It also states that Germany, along with other European nations, should agree to help Turkey, a country that’s 98% Muslim, gain visa-free travel within the EU starting in 2016.

    Political Discourse

    The refugee crisis has raised huge concern in European countries like Hungary.

    In response to 7,000 migrants entering Hungarian territory per day in 2015, the Hungarian government reestablished border control in order to keep the hordes of refugees from entering the country.

    Of course this did not go down well with Soros and his close allies, the Clintons.

    Bill Clinton has since come out and accused both Poland and Hungary of thinking “democracy is too much trouble” and wanting to have a “Putin-like authoritarian dictatorship.”

    Seeing through Clinton’s comments, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán responded by saying, “The remarks made about Hungary and Poland … have a political dimension. These are not accidental slips of the tongue. And these slips or remarks have been multiplying since we are living in the era of the migrant crisis. And we all know that behind the leaders of the Democratic Party, we have to see George Soros.

    He went on to say that “although the mouth belongs to Clinton, the voice belongs to Soros.”

    Soros has since said of Orbán’s policy toward the migrants: “His plan treats the protection of national borders as the objective and the refugees as an obstacle. Our plan treats the protection of refugees as the objective and national borders as the obstacle.”

    It’s hard to imagine that he could be any clearer in his globalist intentions.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/how-george-soros-singlehandedly-created-european-refugee-crisis-and-why
     
  94. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Sam Shama
    Agree entirely, with the proviso that public libraries thus endowed with data, treat the issue of privacy with utmost care.

    Sam,

    It’s true that Google have a lot of confidential information, my emails for a start, if not my DNA. But the searchable database cannot contain confidential information, since it is all derived from publicly accessible web sites (is that not so?).

    Re: Your point 5 of an earlier comment that “Google has delivered for its stockholders.” I would say that is not so much because the management is necessarily brilliant but because Google has had a near monopoly on search in many countries.

    The same is true of all the FANGs. These companies emerged though early exploitation of the Internet, a medium that makes the transformation of first mover advantage into a monopoly a high probability.

    Sure the Google boys were smart to spot the opportunity and they had the credentials to get the venture cap they needed, but in their case as in most others, success was a matter of being in the right place at the right time. Even my own tiny business success depended largely on being, I believe, the first in the field to use the Internet and to expand that use as the WWW emerged.

    Of all the tech billionaires, Musk is perhaps the only one who will go down in history as a great innovator, not because of the rockets which thus far are mostly just a government contract job, or the batteries, which are just a commodity, or the (heavily government subsidized) cars, which may never turn a profit, or the rooftop solar business which makes little economic sense, but the hyperloop, assuming (what I rather doubt) it takes off and becomes a major form of transportation.

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    Largely agree. Still, Google certainly wasn't the only, nor the first search engine. Their execution set them apart. As with most industrial organisation trends, we are vulnerable to monopoly formation and Antitrust needs to be far more vigilant. That is assuming their true mandate hasn't changed.
  95. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Carlton Meyer
    What about mentoring? What about caring for employees? If leadership learned of something they deem inappropriate, they should counsel the young man and only fire someone who refuses to adjust. This firing squad tactic should never be used by an organization that truly cares about people. I'd like to see a union movement at google to protect workers from such a-holes. Hopefully, the board will remove this CEO who proved himself incompetent and heartless. This issue is not about gender differences, but corporate arrogance.

    I tried hitting the agree button but it didn’t work. Anyhow, I agree.

    But destroying unions, not creating them, is among the goals of globalization: global wage arbitrage destroys the bargaining power of workers in the West. Without bargaining power, the appeal of the union movement dies. Without the union movement and its economic and political clout, the working people of the West become vulnerable to genocide.

    Western elites have always hated working people. As Benjamin Disreali wrote in the 1845 novel Sybil, England is divided into:

    “Two nations; between whom there is no intercourse and no sympathy; who are as ignorant of each other’s habits, thoughts, and feelings, as if they were dwellers in different zones, or inhabitants of different planets; who are formed by a different breeding, are fed by a different food, are ordered by different manners, and are not governed by the same laws.” “You speak of — ”said Egremont, hesitantly. “ THE RICH AND THE POOR.”

    Before WWII, the eugenics movement sought ways to rid the Western nations of the unproductive and degenerate lower orders. Belief in the efficacy of gas chambers was not confined to Germany. But Germany gave gas chammbers a bad name. Moreover, the post-war boom created the need for a mass workforce to manufacture cars, household appliances, etc., while the mass workforce created the demand that kept the factories busy.

    But now the Western workforce is largely redundant, offshore sweatshop labor and cheap immigrant labor being cheaper. Thus the sentence of death has been declared on the European and American working class. Without a Fuhrer willing and able to beat the crap out of the Treason class, it’s game over for Western civilization and the peoples who created it.

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    Without a Fuhrer willing and able to beat the crap out of the Treason class, it’s game over for Western civilization and the peoples who created it.
     
    Apologize for getting into "personal" from "issue".
    But, reading some of your posts here you strike me as a person who wouldn't want "Fuhrer principle" around.
    , @Skeptikal
    " Without a Fuhrer willing and able to beat the crap out of the Treason class, it’s game over for Western civilization and the peoples who created it."

    I hope someone shows up who beats the crap out of the Treason class.
    But I very much doubt this person will be a Fuehrer type---Der Fuehrer being the one who instigated a big cull for purposes defined, ultimately, by the elite of his country.
  96. geokat62 says:
    @CanSpeccy
    Thanks for the link to the text of Orban's speech.

    It is difficult to believe the impression widely given that Soros is single-handedly financing the genocide the European people. Moreover, it seems contrary to his nature to give away a cent, let alone billions. So could it be that the man, who seems now to be quite senile, is merely a front for the CIA, perhaps, or the US State Department?

    It is difficult to believe the impression widely given that Soros is single-handedly financing the genocide the European people.

    Funny you should mention that, as that is exactly what the title – How George Soros Singlehandedly Created The European Refugee Crisis – And Why- of this ZeroHedge article suggests.

    Here’s an excerpt:

    [MORE]

    His Latest Success: the European Refugee Crisis

    Soros’s agenda is fundamentally about the destruction of national borders. This has recently been shown very clearly with his funding of the European refugee crisis.

    The refugee crisis has been blamed on the civil war currently raging in Syria. But did you ever wonder how all these people suddenly knew Europe would open its gates and let them in?

    The refugee crisis is not a naturally occurring phenomenon. It coincided with OSF [Open Society Foundations] donating money to the US-based Migration Policy Institute and the Platform for International Cooperation on Undocumented Migrants, both Soros-sponsored organizations. Both groups advocate the resettlement of third-world Muslims into Europe.

    In 2015, a Sky News reporter found “Migrant Handbooks” on the Greek island of Lesbos. It was later revealed that the handbooks, which are written in Arabic, had been given to refugees before crossing the Mediterranean by a group called “Welcome to the EU.”

    Welcome to the EU is funded by—you guessed it—the Open Society Foundations.

    Soros has not only backed groups that advocate the resettlement of third-world migrants into Europe, he in fact is the architect of the “Merkel Plan.”

    The Merkel Plan was created by the European Stability Initiative whose chairman Gerald Knaus is a senior fellow at none other than the Open Society Foundations.

    The plan proposes that Germany should grant asylum to 500,000 Syrian refugees. It also states that Germany, along with other European nations, should agree to help Turkey, a country that’s 98% Muslim, gain visa-free travel within the EU starting in 2016.

    Political Discourse

    The refugee crisis has raised huge concern in European countries like Hungary.

    In response to 7,000 migrants entering Hungarian territory per day in 2015, the Hungarian government reestablished border control in order to keep the hordes of refugees from entering the country.

    Of course this did not go down well with Soros and his close allies, the Clintons.

    Bill Clinton has since come out and accused both Poland and Hungary of thinking “democracy is too much trouble” and wanting to have a “Putin-like authoritarian dictatorship.”

    Seeing through Clinton’s comments, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán responded by saying, “The remarks made about Hungary and Poland … have a political dimension. These are not accidental slips of the tongue. And these slips or remarks have been multiplying since we are living in the era of the migrant crisis. And we all know that behind the leaders of the Democratic Party, we have to see George Soros.

    He went on to say that “although the mouth belongs to Clinton, the voice belongs to Soros.”

    Soros has since said of Orbán’s policy toward the migrants: “His plan treats the protection of national borders as the objective and the refugees as an obstacle. Our plan treats the protection of refugees as the objective and national borders as the obstacle.”

    It’s hard to imagine that he could be any clearer in his globalist intentions.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/how-george-soros-singlehandedly-created-european-refugee-crisis-and-why

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  97. Sam Shama says:
    @utu
    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    How the IQ-ist deal with man woman difference in that their bell curves are slightly shifted and have differed standard deviations. How do they attribute it to genes? The first 22 chromosomes have statistically the same genes in both sexes. The only difference is on the 23rd. Actually women have more there than men on Y chromosome. Are there intelligence genes on the Y chromosome that account for the extremely low IQ and extremely high IQ in men and the genes that men do not have but women do on the missing part of Y chromosome control activation of the genes responsible the outliers of the bell curve?

    IQ is a difficult concept and quantitative methods to measure it are likely flawed in my opinion. At population levels, I find more convincing, theories, where the ‘g’ factor [loosely speaking] is positively influenced by better nutrition and lowered viral load.

    I am certainly no expert on the subject, but friends who work directly in the area [and who've treated me much as white coats in a lab might mice: I have a freakish ability for geometric pattern identification] tell me that identifying a causal gene network for intelligence is rather a thankless task. The Obesity gene network, otoh, is apparently soon to be disclosed. On the Y-chrom differences, you certainly seem to have read more than I have, so let me take a squint, should be interesting.

    There are clues. Look at WizOfOz’s post on this matter. The answer might reside in the MtDNA. There is some lore in the pairing traditions of a certain tribe :-) not inconsistent with that conjecture.

    Concerning the mean-variance aspects of IQ distributions between the two sexes, I can only say my personal observation and experience bears true regarding those differences. I wouldn’t, at least publicly, for reasons of safety, go as far as CanSpeccy ["women are better organisers of picnics and such" :-) ], but men are better at maths and coding, while women better manipulators/intuiters of group dynamics.

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  98. peterAUS says:
    @CanSpeccy
    I tried hitting the agree button but it didn't work. Anyhow, I agree.

    But destroying unions, not creating them, is among the goals of globalization: global wage arbitrage destroys the bargaining power of workers in the West. Without bargaining power, the appeal of the union movement dies. Without the union movement and its economic and political clout, the working people of the West become vulnerable to genocide.

    Western elites have always hated working people. As Benjamin Disreali wrote in the 1845 novel Sybil, England is divided into:

    “Two nations; between whom there is no intercourse and no sympathy; who are as ignorant of each other’s habits, thoughts, and feelings, as if they were dwellers in different zones, or inhabitants of different planets; who are formed by a different breeding, are fed by a different food, are ordered by different manners, and are not governed by the same laws.” “You speak of — ”said Egremont, hesitantly. “ THE RICH AND THE POOR.”
     
    Before WWII, the eugenics movement sought ways to rid the Western nations of the unproductive and degenerate lower orders. Belief in the efficacy of gas chambers was not confined to Germany. But Germany gave gas chammbers a bad name. Moreover, the post-war boom created the need for a mass workforce to manufacture cars, household appliances, etc., while the mass workforce created the demand that kept the factories busy.

    But now the Western workforce is largely redundant, offshore sweatshop labor and cheap immigrant labor being cheaper. Thus the sentence of death has been declared on the European and American working class. Without a Fuhrer willing and able to beat the crap out of the Treason class, it's game over for Western civilization and the peoples who created it.

    Without a Fuhrer willing and able to beat the crap out of the Treason class, it’s game over for Western civilization and the peoples who created it.

    Apologize for getting into “personal” from “issue”.
    But, reading some of your posts here you strike me as a person who wouldn’t want “Fuhrer principle” around.

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    But, reading some of your posts here you strike me as a person who wouldn’t want “Fuhrer principle” around.
     
    Quite true. But circumstances alter cases and when your own people are slated for destruction, fine principals may best be ditched.
  99. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy
    Sam,

    It's true that Google have a lot of confidential information, my emails for a start, if not my DNA. But the searchable database cannot contain confidential information, since it is all derived from publicly accessible web sites (is that not so?).

    Re: Your point 5 of an earlier comment that "Google has delivered for its stockholders." I would say that is not so much because the management is necessarily brilliant but because Google has had a near monopoly on search in many countries.

    The same is true of all the FANGs. These companies emerged though early exploitation of the Internet, a medium that makes the transformation of first mover advantage into a monopoly a high probability.

    Sure the Google boys were smart to spot the opportunity and they had the credentials to get the venture cap they needed, but in their case as in most others, success was a matter of being in the right place at the right time. Even my own tiny business success depended largely on being, I believe, the first in the field to use the Internet and to expand that use as the WWW emerged.

    Of all the tech billionaires, Musk is perhaps the only one who will go down in history as a great innovator, not because of the rockets which thus far are mostly just a government contract job, or the batteries, which are just a commodity, or the (heavily government subsidized) cars, which may never turn a profit, or the rooftop solar business which makes little economic sense, but the hyperloop, assuming (what I rather doubt) it takes off and becomes a major form of transportation.

    Largely agree. Still, Google certainly wasn’t the only, nor the first search engine. Their execution set them apart. As with most industrial organisation trends, we are vulnerable to monopoly formation and Antitrust needs to be far more vigilant. That is assuming their true mandate hasn’t changed.

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  100. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Google is not an ACLU type of institution. At its core it’s a technology company and hires mostly coders, mathematicians, and logicians; not Jesse Jacksons.
     
    You mean they do hire some Jesse Jacksons? Why?

    Well yes, this is true. As one would expect, these tech companies are disproportionately male and Asian which has resulted in all the predictable headaches. I recall reading somewhere Jesse Jackson and Sharpton have managed to negotiate quite handsome Danegeld from them, to say nothing of imposed quota based employment for their constituencies. It’s a shame, but I suppose one could view it as a cost of doing business.

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    I had not been aware that there were search engines prior to the advent of Google. But I have little doubt that Paige and Brin were smart and had smart handlers who executed their project well*.

    In fact, it's been claimed that their handlers were the CIA.


    INSURGE INTELLIGENCE, a new crowd-funded investigative journalism project, breaks the exclusive story of how the United States intelligence community funded, nurtured and incubated Google as part of a drive to dominate the world through control of information. Seed-funded by the NSA and CIA, Google was merely the first among a plethora of private sector start-ups co-opted by US intelligence to retain ‘information superiority.’
     
    I have no idea if any of that is true, but it sounds plausible. Indeed, I've wondered whether Google has been able to get away with paying virtually no tax in the UK in return for information — including information on US citizens perhaps, which the Brits can then pass on to their American colleagues, who thus acquire intelligence on American citizens (without breaking American law?).

    If there's any truth in such a hypothesis, then Google truly is a monster.

    In that connection, James Damore writing in the WST, says that Google is, for the workers, something like a cult.


    For many, including myself, working at Google is a major part of their identity, almost like a cult with its own leaders and saints, all believed to righteously uphold the sacred motto of “Don’t be evil.”
     
    Indeed, one might expect that kind social atmosphere in a spy agency operating under the guise of a search utility, and requiring very firm control over its employees.

    If any of such speculation were true, I should think it would put Google effectively beyond the reach of anti-trust legislation.

    ———
    * But that was then. Now, Google could be rife with inefficiency and internal strife without it severely impacting their near-monopoly income stream.

  101. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    Without a Fuhrer willing and able to beat the crap out of the Treason class, it’s game over for Western civilization and the peoples who created it.
     
    Apologize for getting into "personal" from "issue".
    But, reading some of your posts here you strike me as a person who wouldn't want "Fuhrer principle" around.

    But, reading some of your posts here you strike me as a person who wouldn’t want “Fuhrer principle” around.

    Quite true. But circumstances alter cases and when your own people are slated for destruction, fine principals may best be ditched.

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    Or to be more specific, when your group is under genocidal attack by among others, the mainstream media, the Vatican, the national government, the BBC, the school system, the university, and the Money Power, to name but a few, then unless you are willing to go docilely and figuratively into the gas chambers, you must recognize that you are at war, and to win at war you must have leadership, and military leadership is top down and totally authoritarian. To that end, my own people, the English, need a new Cromwell. What they'll probably get a fraud run by MI5.
  102. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Sam Shama
    Well yes, this is true. As one would expect, these tech companies are disproportionately male and Asian which has resulted in all the predictable headaches. I recall reading somewhere Jesse Jackson and Sharpton have managed to negotiate quite handsome Danegeld from them, to say nothing of imposed quota based employment for their constituencies. It's a shame, but I suppose one could view it as a cost of doing business.

    I had not been aware that there were search engines prior to the advent of Google. But I have little doubt that Paige and Brin were smart and had smart handlers who executed their project well*.

    In fact, it’s been claimed that their handlers were the CIA.

    INSURGE INTELLIGENCE, a new crowd-funded investigative journalism project, breaks the exclusive story of how the United States intelligence community funded, nurtured and incubated Google as part of a drive to dominate the world through control of information. Seed-funded by the NSA and CIA, Google was merely the first among a plethora of private sector start-ups co-opted by US intelligence to retain ‘information superiority.’

    I have no idea if any of that is true, but it sounds plausible. Indeed, I’ve wondered whether Google has been able to get away with paying virtually no tax in the UK in return for information — including information on US citizens perhaps, which the Brits can then pass on to their American colleagues, who thus acquire intelligence on American citizens (without breaking American law?).

    If there’s any truth in such a hypothesis, then Google truly is a monster.

    In that connection, James Damore writing in the WST, says that Google is, for the workers, something like a cult.

    For many, including myself, working at Google is a major part of their identity, almost like a cult with its own leaders and saints, all believed to righteously uphold the sacred motto of “Don’t be evil.”

    Indeed, one might expect that kind social atmosphere in a spy agency operating under the guise of a search utility, and requiring very firm control over its employees.

    If any of such speculation were true, I should think it would put Google effectively beyond the reach of anti-trust legislation.

    ———
    * But that was then. Now, Google could be rife with inefficiency and internal strife without it severely impacting their near-monopoly income stream.

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    Come to think of it, I do remember using AltaVista before Google came along, and, as listed here, there were many others, though most I was never aware of. AltaVista, it seems, was taken over by Yahoo.
  103. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @CanSpeccy
    I had not been aware that there were search engines prior to the advent of Google. But I have little doubt that Paige and Brin were smart and had smart handlers who executed their project well*.

    In fact, it's been claimed that their handlers were the CIA.


    INSURGE INTELLIGENCE, a new crowd-funded investigative journalism project, breaks the exclusive story of how the United States intelligence community funded, nurtured and incubated Google as part of a drive to dominate the world through control of information. Seed-funded by the NSA and CIA, Google was merely the first among a plethora of private sector start-ups co-opted by US intelligence to retain ‘information superiority.’
     
    I have no idea if any of that is true, but it sounds plausible. Indeed, I've wondered whether Google has been able to get away with paying virtually no tax in the UK in return for information — including information on US citizens perhaps, which the Brits can then pass on to their American colleagues, who thus acquire intelligence on American citizens (without breaking American law?).

    If there's any truth in such a hypothesis, then Google truly is a monster.

    In that connection, James Damore writing in the WST, says that Google is, for the workers, something like a cult.


    For many, including myself, working at Google is a major part of their identity, almost like a cult with its own leaders and saints, all believed to righteously uphold the sacred motto of “Don’t be evil.”
     
    Indeed, one might expect that kind social atmosphere in a spy agency operating under the guise of a search utility, and requiring very firm control over its employees.

    If any of such speculation were true, I should think it would put Google effectively beyond the reach of anti-trust legislation.

    ———
    * But that was then. Now, Google could be rife with inefficiency and internal strife without it severely impacting their near-monopoly income stream.

    Come to think of it, I do remember using AltaVista before Google came along, and, as listed here, there were many others, though most I was never aware of. AltaVista, it seems, was taken over by Yahoo.

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  104. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik


    for Google to forbid political and social activism is like Goldman Sachs forbidding making profits
     
    Nonsense. Google is not an ACLU type of institution. At its core it’s a technology company and hires mostly coders, mathematicians, and logicians; not Jesse Jacksons.
     
    how ironic is it Sam, that as soon as you say that, the news is exploding with outrage over Google's Orwellian tactics to control speech and thoughts and everything else that doesn't comport to its uber-liberal-progressive view of the world.

    for you not to see it Sam, is simply a manifestation of your own hyper-liberal outlook on (some) things.

    because as we all know, you openly support Zionism and its moral (as if!) underpinnings, while simultaneously excoriating white folks who don't submit to forced integration as reprehensible. You referred to white Brits and Americans who don't want to integrate with urban blacks, (like the ones we all saw in Baltimore recently) as moral reprobates.

    Aren't those your stated positions? The exact same positions held by the ADL and the SPLC and the DNC and the Jewish neocons, and Jessie Jackson and Hillary Clinton and Hollywood and all the other orifices of hatred and genocide? With their overt, and glaring and indefensible double standards, demanding ethnic purity for the Jewish supremacists + ethnic degeneration, racial hostility, strife and ultimately genocide for all white people everywhere. Huh?

    so now as it becomes brutally obvious that Google is also on the list of duplicitous, anti-white agents of the Agenda, how can you say their corporate culture is based strictly on math and technology, when this very story about Google we're both commenting on proves otherwise?

    Rurik, try not to get hysterical. Google is a technology company which, after reaching the pinnacle of success, arrives at a place where its platform is sought by various interests [including logically, the philosophies of its leaders] to serve in the furtherance of a select set of principles beyond its main commercial interests. So why should they allow any internal opposition to those principles from their own employees? They wouldn’t. Would you in your own business? Of course, if any of those values/ideologies violate the law the courts stand ready to hear complaints.

    You and I may not like it [I don't], but their commercial policies are driven by stockholder interest and keeping pressure groups in a state of controllable suspension. Not by a bill of rights extended to all those who use its search platform. If you do not like their policies, there is little you can do in a free society, beyond (a) not using their services, or, (b) exhorting the government’s Antitrust Department to break them up; a notion I heartily support. Well, there is a third; you could start your own search engine enterprise and give them competition.

    What on earth are you babbling about “forced integration?”. My conversations with Iffen were very clear regarding my views which you are clearly misrepresenting. I believe there is no need for Segregation. I believe in individual choice. Whites and Blacks are, for all practical purposes separated in this nation. The separation is principally on account of economic disparities. I find the notion of segregation, superfluous, archaic, uncivil, unscientific and, not to put too fine a point on it, stupid. Tell me, what would you prefer to have in a nation already populated with so many diverse peoples? Separate colonies for North Europeans, South Europeans, East Europeans, Jews, Blacks, Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Native Americans, Philipinos, Japanese, Koreans? What about those families which are mixed in race? I await your wise counsel. [A related point to keep in mind if history teaches us anything, it is that whites in Europe did not lack for strife or visiting death on each other].

    To add to my position, I believe in the idea of individual responsibility, the value of work and an economy organised around the principle of voluntary transactions. The very ideas behind American exceptionalism. In a bit of a contradiction, I am also a monarchist; but only when I find myself in England :-).

    I think whites males in this nation are under stress due to the confluence of tectonic global shifts. You are not going to get very far by pushing for half-baked ideas. There are many social imbalances and oddities, crony capitalistic laws, which afflict America today; signs of excess; shades of Rome? I don’t have any clear remedies for any of these, but I can tell you the answer does not lie in some of the ideas you spout.

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    Google is a technology company which, after reaching the pinnacle of success, arrives at a place where its platform is sought by various interests [including logically, the philosophies of its leaders] to serve in the furtherance of a select set of principles beyond its main commercial interests.
     
    duh

    that's what we've all been talking about

    So why should they allow any internal opposition to those principles from their own employees?
     
    because they sanctimoniously vomit buckets of "diversity" newspeak, which is a vile lie, because the only diversity they're interested is the kind that discriminates against white men and makes any kind of diversity of opinion about such an Orwellian philosophy verboten, which is hardly valuing diversity, but rather is more like a goose-stepping tyrannical and racist corporation. And to simply point out that obvious fact, will now get you fired.

    They wouldn’t. Would you in your own business?
     
    of course I would and have. I've hired a very diverse crowd of wonderful and eclectic people. Indians (trinis), Jewish women, Puerto Ricans and French Canadians, Cubans, Germans, Brits, Mexicans, and anyone else who has the skills and work ethic to make my business successful.

    And everyone who knows me knows that I respect all points of view, even if they're wrong. But I'd never demand fealty to any one point of view. That would be a complete heresy of everything I stand for. In case you haven't noticed, I love the battle of ideas. Provided everyone is respectful of other's right to their ideas, even when wrong Sam. ;)

    You and I may not like it [I don't], but their commercial policies are driven by stockholder interest and keeping pressure groups in a state of controllable
    suspension
     
    only the pressure groups they don't like

    they're basically like the NYT, a seminal institution for the dissemination of information with access to that information being controlled and distorted to suit an agenda. And, in the case of Google, an uber-liberal / progressive, overtly anti-white agenda, (just like the NYT ; )

    What on earth are you babbling about “forced integration?”. My conversations with Iffen were very clear regarding my views which you are clearly misrepresenting. I believe there is no need for Segregation. I believe in individual choice. Whites and Blacks are, for all practical purposes separated in this nation
     
    not when the government can help it

    and I'm not misrepresenting you. You were very clear that any (white) person who supports segregating for the purposes of raising his family away from hostile and dangerous minorities, was to your opinion; reprehensible (even if you didn't use that precise word). I'm not quoting you because I have no interest in going back and looking at the comments, but I'm sure you'll agree that you still believe that a white person who specifically does not want to raise his or her children among violent and aggressive and hate-filled minorities is somehow deplorable. Or no? If you'd care to repudiate that, and yes that 'yes, I'd feel the same way if I lived in Detroit. I'd want to get my white children the **** out of there!'

    Then I consider the matter closed, and you've seen the light ;)

    Tell me, what would you prefer to have in a nation already populated with so many diverse peoples? Separate colonies for North Europeans, South Europeans, East Europeans, Jews, Blacks, Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Native Americans, Philipinos, Japanese, Koreans?
     
    isn't that the fundamental principle underlying Zionism?

    if you're willing to call that principle "stupid", then why are we spending 38 billion dollars to support exactly such a principle?

    are Jews unique in that Jews and *only* Jews should be allowed to have a country of their own?

    eh Sam?

    What about those families which are mixed in race?
     
    you tell me...

    if a baby is born of a Jewish father and black Baptist mother here in the US, should that baby be allowed to make aliyah to Israel?

    what if the baby has a Palestinian father and a Jewish mother? Does that matter? Even if the baby is not raised Jewish, but Muslim? And the mother has converted.

    where does Sam come down on these nuanced questions?

    Europe did not lack for strife or visiting death on each other
     
    that's true, but in the last two conflagrations there was a hidden hand behind the death, wasn't there? Have you ever heard of the Balfour Declaration Sam?

    I think whites males in this nation are under stress due to the confluence of tectonic global shifts.
     
    you could say the exact same thing about Palestinians, and remove all agency and blame from their existential mistreatment and eventual annihilation. 'it just sort of happened, you know...'

    There are many social imbalances and oddities, crony capitalistic laws, which afflict America today; signs of excess...
     
    is that what's mean by dissembling, Sam?
  105. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @CanSpeccy

    But, reading some of your posts here you strike me as a person who wouldn’t want “Fuhrer principle” around.
     
    Quite true. But circumstances alter cases and when your own people are slated for destruction, fine principals may best be ditched.

    Or to be more specific, when your group is under genocidal attack by among others, the mainstream media, the Vatican, the national government, the BBC, the school system, the university, and the Money Power, to name but a few, then unless you are willing to go docilely and figuratively into the gas chambers, you must recognize that you are at war, and to win at war you must have leadership, and military leadership is top down and totally authoritarian. To that end, my own people, the English, need a new Cromwell. What they’ll probably get a fraud run by MI5.

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    you must recognize that you are at war, and to win at war you must have leadership, and military leadership is top down and totally authoritarian.
     
    Well, a couple of points here actually.

    First, personally coming from a military background, I believe we need a visionary genius, and, well, can't really see that type in the modern military today.

    Secondly, definitely disagree with "totally authoritarian" when it comes to military leadership.
    You "feel" as an intellectual type and apparently a Brit so, I'd suggest taking a look at the book "Not mentioned in dispatches" by Spencer Fitz-Gibbon. He does repeat his angle a bit forcefully though, but it's a very good reading.
  106. peterAUS says:
    @CanSpeccy
    Or to be more specific, when your group is under genocidal attack by among others, the mainstream media, the Vatican, the national government, the BBC, the school system, the university, and the Money Power, to name but a few, then unless you are willing to go docilely and figuratively into the gas chambers, you must recognize that you are at war, and to win at war you must have leadership, and military leadership is top down and totally authoritarian. To that end, my own people, the English, need a new Cromwell. What they'll probably get a fraud run by MI5.

    you must recognize that you are at war, and to win at war you must have leadership, and military leadership is top down and totally authoritarian.

    Well, a couple of points here actually.

    First, personally coming from a military background, I believe we need a visionary genius, and, well, can’t really see that type in the modern military today.

    Secondly, definitely disagree with “totally authoritarian” when it comes to military leadership.
    You “feel” as an intellectual type and apparently a Brit so, I’d suggest taking a look at the book “Not mentioned in dispatches” by Spencer Fitz-Gibbon. He does repeat his angle a bit forcefully though, but it’s a very good reading.

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  107. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rurik

    There is a war against the West, Christianity and the civilization to which it gave rise, and the enemy seeks to destroy the West by destroying the people of the West.
     
    I see you stuck that in there, but whatever, it's a minor point.

    the main point: "destroying the people of the West", is the salient one. And too true.

    holy shit. He really did say that

    http://iotwreport.com/justin-truedope-believes-immigrants-are-more-canadian-than-native-born-canadians/

    reminds me of this guy

    http://i.imgur.com/MzJfGSF.png

    look for the kind of action that Israel Shamir is calling for here at the Unz Review, not fine words or faith in the power of truth.
     
    well, I see a lot of truth to that

    and I also think that if the people of the West are going to persevere, then we need more than just the Machiavellian intrigues of a single man and his administration. We need a civilizational moral compass. We need a philosophical underpinning for our right to exist. We need rhetorical armor against the slings and arrows of genocidal hatred that they've been forging for centuries.

    The entire Talmud seems little more than a blueprint for our subjugation and destruction. The mantras of the left, taught from every Western university and college campus, imbued into every Hollywood movie and Madison Ave. ad that comes out, are all seething with envious hatred for our phenotype, our heritage and our accomplishments.

    And what do we have? We have KKK imbeciles running around saying "no, God doesn't love the Jews best, he loves white rednecks best!'.

    Even Fred Reed says we've lost, and it's time to blend with the Chicanos into a nice brown race, even if he isn't quite as enthusiastic about doing it with the blacks.

    And you know what, I'd probably be OK with that, so long as it was all voluntary. and not engineered by the ((fecal government and media)), as it is and has been during my lifetime. So turn N. America into a Brazil or Puerto Rico, if it suits people. And if it stopped there.

    But it doesn't stop there. They demand that all of Europe and Scandinavia and every single last hamlet of the white race be blended out of existence for all eternity. Their hatred really is that all-consuming. Their genocidal imperative really is that psychotic, and I don't think they're ever going to relent. Ever. Until they're pushed back.

    And to push back, we need the philosophical underpinnings of a civilization (and the race that created it)- a militant reason to exist. We need a religion that isn't based on spreading the other cheek for your enemies. We need an intellectual bulwark against the Soros' and Zucks of the world. Hungary and Poland have looked down between their legs and noticed that they still have balls. We need to remember the same thing. Even it if takes the power of truth.

    I will tell you that our enemies hate truth more than anything on this planet. Their murderous schemes die like vampires in sunlight when you shine the light of truth upon their eternal lies.

    Rather than handing over N. America to the Fiend, this is going to be the battle ground for the future of the West. Because if we give in here, Europe and Australia and Iceland and New Zealand are doomed. In but a blink of history's time, if we continue on the trajectory we're on now, cannibalism will return to New Zealand, and Sydney will look like Detroit. And the planet will suffer an unimaginable hell on earth. And the Elders will have finally gotten their Orwellian dream come true.

    It's up to us.

    But it doesn’t stop there. They demand that all of Europe and Scandinavia and every single last hamlet of the white race be blended out of existence for all eternity. Their hatred really is that all-consuming. Their genocidal imperative really is that psychotic, and I don’t think they’re ever going to relent. Ever. Until they’re pushed back.

    No, they won’t relent on their own and it’s going to get much worse if we let them. The white race is set to be destroyed either directly or via miscegenation. The goal is the global, easily controllable, chicken farm with <90 IQ chickens. So let's take a look:

    Even before the US, Canada, Europe and Australia turn fully yellow we can see a huge problem for the planners – namely: Russia and China. There's no way they'll allow those countries to attain a 10-15 IQ points advantage over the globalist chicken farm. Kinda' puts into perspective the MSM's insistence that those two countries represent the biggest threat to "peace, freedom and democracy", doesn't it? It also explains the massive, sustained build-up of First Strike (pre-emptive) nuclear capabilities in certain areas of the World. Something to think about.

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  108. Skeptikal says:
    @CanSpeccy
    I tried hitting the agree button but it didn't work. Anyhow, I agree.

    But destroying unions, not creating them, is among the goals of globalization: global wage arbitrage destroys the bargaining power of workers in the West. Without bargaining power, the appeal of the union movement dies. Without the union movement and its economic and political clout, the working people of the West become vulnerable to genocide.

    Western elites have always hated working people. As Benjamin Disreali wrote in the 1845 novel Sybil, England is divided into:

    “Two nations; between whom there is no intercourse and no sympathy; who are as ignorant of each other’s habits, thoughts, and feelings, as if they were dwellers in different zones, or inhabitants of different planets; who are formed by a different breeding, are fed by a different food, are ordered by different manners, and are not governed by the same laws.” “You speak of — ”said Egremont, hesitantly. “ THE RICH AND THE POOR.”
     
    Before WWII, the eugenics movement sought ways to rid the Western nations of the unproductive and degenerate lower orders. Belief in the efficacy of gas chambers was not confined to Germany. But Germany gave gas chammbers a bad name. Moreover, the post-war boom created the need for a mass workforce to manufacture cars, household appliances, etc., while the mass workforce created the demand that kept the factories busy.

    But now the Western workforce is largely redundant, offshore sweatshop labor and cheap immigrant labor being cheaper. Thus the sentence of death has been declared on the European and American working class. Without a Fuhrer willing and able to beat the crap out of the Treason class, it's game over for Western civilization and the peoples who created it.

    ” Without a Fuhrer willing and able to beat the crap out of the Treason class, it’s game over for Western civilization and the peoples who created it.”

    I hope someone shows up who beats the crap out of the Treason class.
    But I very much doubt this person will be a Fuehrer type—Der Fuehrer being the one who instigated a big cull for purposes defined, ultimately, by the elite of his country.

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    Der Fuehrer being the one who instigated a big cull for purposes defined, ultimately, by the elite of his country.
     
    der Fuehrer [thanks for the correction of my spelling] means simply leader or guide. Only Nazis mean Adolf Hitler when speaking of der Fuehrer.

    But the term does imply ruthless leadership. And ruthless leadership is what is needed in the struggle for national survival.

    I make no apology for implying that in such a struggle, survival trumps every other consideration. Committing national suicide for whatever supposedly noble principles is worse than pathetic, it is utterly contemptible.

  109. geokat62 says:

    I think whites males in this nation are under stress due to the confluence of tectonic global shifts.

    I like the reference to “tectonic global shifts” as it suggests the probable causes of these massive demographic changes have little to do with peoples’ actions…they are merely the byproduct of natural forces, kinda’ like how an apple falls to the ground due to the force of gravity.

    Here are some hard facts that put the lie to this assertion:

    Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review

    Kevin MacDonald

    California State University-Long Beach

    This paper discusses Jewish involvement in shaping United States immigration policy. In addition to a periodic interest in fostering the immigration of co-religionists as a result of anti-Semitic movements, Jews have an interest in opposing the establishment of ethnically and culturally homogeneous societies in which they resideas minorities. Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples. These activities have involved leadership in Congress, organizing and funding anti-restrictionist groups composed of Jews and gentiles, and originating intellectual movements opposed to evolutionary and biological perspectives in the social sciences.

    An excerpt from p. 300:

    A congruent opinion is expressed by prominent Jewish social scientist and political activist Earl Raab’ who remarks very positively on the success of revised American immigration policy in altering the ethnic composition of the United States since 1965. Raab notes that the Jewish community has taken a leadership role in changing the Northwestern European bias of American immigration policy (1993a, p. 17), and he has also maintained that one factor inhibiting anti-Semitism in the contemporary United States is that “(a)n increasing ethnic heterogeneity, as a result of immigration, has made it even more difficult for a political party or mass movement of bigotry to develop” (1995, p. 91). Or more colorfully:

    The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country. We [i.e., Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigotry for about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible—and makes our constitutional constraints against bigotry more practical than ever (Raab, 1993b, p. 23).

    Indeed, the “primary objective” of Jewish political activity after 1945 “was … to prevent the emergence of an anti-Semitic reactionary mass movement in the United States” (Svonkin 1997,1998).

    So, not to put too fine a point on it, what can be said is “mission accomplished” in terms of The Lobby’s efforts to ensure that fascism never again rears its ugly head in the world. What we’re witnessing now (e.g., Charlottsville, VA) are the last spasms of an organism that has been attacked by the “Diversity Is Our Strength” virus, implanted by The Lobby. But, as I keep reminding people, the tremendous success of The Lobby may be sowing the seeds of its own demise, as it will inevitably succumb to hubristic forces and keep reaching for more and more – e.g., the anti-BDS law that could fine Americans for up to $1M and imprison them for up to 20 yrs if they support BDS. These types of actions will convince more and more Americans that The Lobby is working against their interests and a day of reckoning will come.

    To avert this scenario from unfolding, my consistent advice has been for the Jewish community to take notice of these risks and to work to curb the influence of their powerful lobbies. These lobbies must immediately cease and desist from pursuing their nefarious objectives – both domestic (diversity is our strength) and foreign (the phony GWOT that has drained gallons of blood and trillions of dollars to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle) – that are inimical to the interests of the American people.

    Don’t believe me? Here’s what Prof. MacDonald predicts the future holds if things continue on the same path they’re currently on:

    CONCLUSION

    The defeats of 1924 and 1952 did not prevent the ultimate victory of the Jewish interest in combating the cultural, political, and demographic dominance of the European-derived peoples of the United States. What is truly remarkable is the tenacity with which Jewish ethnic interests were pursued for a period of close to 100 years. Also remarkable was the ability to frame the argument of immigration-restrictionists in terms of racial superiority in the period from 1924-1965 rather than in such positive terms as the ethnic interests of the peoples of northern and western Europe in main- taining a status quo as of 1924.

    During the period between 1924 and 1965 Jewish interests were largely thwarted, but this did not prevent the ultimate triumph of the Jewish perspective on immigration.

    Although the success of the anti-restrictionist effort is an indication that people can be induced to be altruistic toward other groups, I rather doubt such altruism will continue to occur if there are obvious signs that the status and political power of the European-derived group is decreasing while the power of other groups increases as a result of immigration and other social policies. The prediction, both on common sense grounds and on the basis of psychological research on social identity process (e.g., Hogg & Abrams, 1987), is that as other groups become increasingly powerful and salient in a multicultural society, the European-derived peoples of the United States will become increasingly unified and that contemporary divisive influences among the European-derived peoples of the United States (e.g., issues related to gender and sexual orientation; social class differences; religious differences) will be increasingly perceived as unimportant. Eventually these groups will develop greater cohesion and a sense of common interest in their interactions with the other ethnic groups with profound consequences on the future history of America and the West.

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    Israel Officially Aids 3rd World Invasion
    http://newobserveronline.com/israel-officially-aids-3rd-world-invasion/

    The Jews are quite open about the reason for their hardline approach. As the New York Times says, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned that the arrival of “refugees” posed a “demographic” risk to Israel: “If we don’t stop their entry, the problem that currently stands at 60,000 could grow to 600,000, and that threatens our existence as a Jewish and democratic state,” he said.

    So it is clear that the Jews understand—correctly—that a mass Third World invasion will destroy their country, and they are very clear and open about this fact.

    Nonetheless, at the very same time, they are actively funding and aiding a mass Third World invasion of Europe—knowing full well that this will destroy Europe.
     
    Barbara Lerner Spectre calls for destruction of Christian European ethnic societies
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

    "I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive."
     
    , @Sam Shama
    [I like the reference to “tectonic global shifts” as it suggests the probable causes of these massive demographic changes have little to do with peoples’ actions…they are merely the byproduct of natural forces, kinda’ like how an apple falls to the ground due to the force of gravity.]

    Wel if you like it, I am rather pleased that one of us does; matter of fact I don't so much. Some cursory digging of SIC codes for manufacturing will set straight how globalised production has gotten; Americans cannot blow their noses with a tissue without touching an intermediate or final product made offshore, let alone other more durable goods. I understand the predicament, I struggle with the implications as well; but that ship sailed about 40 years ago, and for these U.S. to regain competitiveness and competency, requires nothing short of revolution, starting with a revolution in education and attitudes. Depending on dreams of segregation [is there an app for it?] to do it, furthers the opposite. Lessons need to be learned from Asia. Kevin McDonald's collected croakings simply won't do, mate.

  110. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @geokat62

    I think whites males in this nation are under stress due to the confluence of tectonic global shifts.
     
    I like the reference to "tectonic global shifts" as it suggests the probable causes of these massive demographic changes have little to do with peoples' actions...they are merely the byproduct of natural forces, kinda' like how an apple falls to the ground due to the force of gravity.

    Here are some hard facts that put the lie to this assertion:

    Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review

    Kevin MacDonald

    California State University-Long Beach

    This paper discusses Jewish involvement in shaping United States immigration policy. In addition to a periodic interest in fostering the immigration of co-religionists as a result of anti-Semitic movements, Jews have an interest in opposing the establishment of ethnically and culturally homogeneous societies in which they resideas minorities. Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples. These activities have involved leadership in Congress, organizing and funding anti-restrictionist groups composed of Jews and gentiles, and originating intellectual movements opposed to evolutionary and biological perspectives in the social sciences.
     
    An excerpt from p. 300:

    A congruent opinion is expressed by prominent Jewish social scientist and political activist Earl Raab’ who remarks very positively on the success of revised American immigration policy in altering the ethnic composition of the United States since 1965. Raab notes that the Jewish community has taken a leadership role in changing the Northwestern European bias of American immigration policy (1993a, p. 17), and he has also maintained that one factor inhibiting anti-Semitism in the contemporary United States is that “(a)n increasing ethnic heterogeneity, as a result of immigration, has made it even more difficult for a political party or mass movement of bigotry to develop” (1995, p. 91). Or more colorfully:

    The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country. We [i.e., Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigotry for about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible—and makes our constitutional constraints against bigotry more practical than ever (Raab, 1993b, p. 23).
     
    Indeed, the “primary objective” of Jewish political activity after 1945 “was … to prevent the emergence of an anti-Semitic reactionary mass movement in the United States” (Svonkin 1997,1998).
     
    So, not to put too fine a point on it, what can be said is "mission accomplished" in terms of The Lobby's efforts to ensure that fascism never again rears its ugly head in the world. What we're witnessing now (e.g., Charlottsville, VA) are the last spasms of an organism that has been attacked by the "Diversity Is Our Strength" virus, implanted by The Lobby. But, as I keep reminding people, the tremendous success of The Lobby may be sowing the seeds of its own demise, as it will inevitably succumb to hubristic forces and keep reaching for more and more - e.g., the anti-BDS law that could fine Americans for up to $1M and imprison them for up to 20 yrs if they support BDS. These types of actions will convince more and more Americans that The Lobby is working against their interests and a day of reckoning will come.

    To avert this scenario from unfolding, my consistent advice has been for the Jewish community to take notice of these risks and to work to curb the influence of their powerful lobbies. These lobbies must immediately cease and desist from pursuing their nefarious objectives - both domestic (diversity is our strength) and foreign (the phony GWOT that has drained gallons of blood and trillions of dollars to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle) - that are inimical to the interests of the American people.

    Don't believe me? Here's what Prof. MacDonald predicts the future holds if things continue on the same path they're currently on:

    CONCLUSION

    The defeats of 1924 and 1952 did not prevent the ultimate victory of the Jewish interest in combating the cultural, political, and demographic dominance of the European-derived peoples of the United States. What is truly remarkable is the tenacity with which Jewish ethnic interests were pursued for a period of close to 100 years. Also remarkable was the ability to frame the argument of immigration-restrictionists in terms of racial superiority in the period from 1924-1965 rather than in such positive terms as the ethnic interests of the peoples of northern and western Europe in main- taining a status quo as of 1924.

    During the period between 1924 and 1965 Jewish interests were largely thwarted, but this did not prevent the ultimate triumph of the Jewish perspective on immigration.

    Although the success of the anti-restrictionist effort is an indication that people can be induced to be altruistic toward other groups, I rather doubt such altruism will continue to occur if there are obvious signs that the status and political power of the European-derived group is decreasing while the power of other groups increases as a result of immigration and other social policies. The prediction, both on common sense grounds and on the basis of psychological research on social identity process (e.g., Hogg & Abrams, 1987), is that as other groups become increasingly powerful and salient in a multicultural society, the European-derived peoples of the United States will become increasingly unified and that contemporary divisive influences among the European-derived peoples of the United States (e.g., issues related to gender and sexual orientation; social class differences; religious differences) will be increasingly perceived as unimportant. Eventually these groups will develop greater cohesion and a sense of common interest in their interactions with the other ethnic groups with profound consequences on the future history of America and the West.
     

    Israel Officially Aids 3rd World Invasion

    http://newobserveronline.com/israel-officially-aids-3rd-world-invasion/

    The Jews are quite open about the reason for their hardline approach. As the New York Times says, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned that the arrival of “refugees” posed a “demographic” risk to Israel: “If we don’t stop their entry, the problem that currently stands at 60,000 could grow to 600,000, and that threatens our existence as a Jewish and democratic state,” he said.

    So it is clear that the Jews understand—correctly—that a mass Third World invasion will destroy their country, and they are very clear and open about this fact.

    Nonetheless, at the very same time, they are actively funding and aiding a mass Third World invasion of Europe—knowing full well that this will destroy Europe.

    Barbara Lerner Spectre calls for destruction of Christian European ethnic societies

    “I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.”

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    Yes, if Swedish males had balls, they'd deport foreigners like Barbara Specter, and jail any of their own people who said the same thing.
    , @unpc downunder
    You're deliberately being very selective here. A lot of the Israeli media is against third world immigration into Europe. Read the Jerusalem Post and compare it with what is written in the the New York Times. You are conflating the views of people in Israel with the views of diaspora Jews in big cities in the US.

    Different groups, different opinions.

  111. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Skeptikal
    " Without a Fuhrer willing and able to beat the crap out of the Treason class, it’s game over for Western civilization and the peoples who created it."

    I hope someone shows up who beats the crap out of the Treason class.
    But I very much doubt this person will be a Fuehrer type---Der Fuehrer being the one who instigated a big cull for purposes defined, ultimately, by the elite of his country.

    Der Fuehrer being the one who instigated a big cull for purposes defined, ultimately, by the elite of his country.

    der Fuehrer [thanks for the correction of my spelling] means simply leader or guide. Only Nazis mean Adolf Hitler when speaking of der Fuehrer.

    But the term does imply ruthless leadership. And ruthless leadership is what is needed in the struggle for national survival.

    I make no apology for implying that in such a struggle, survival trumps every other consideration. Committing national suicide for whatever supposedly noble principles is worse than pathetic, it is utterly contemptible.

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  112. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Israel Officially Aids 3rd World Invasion
    http://newobserveronline.com/israel-officially-aids-3rd-world-invasion/

    The Jews are quite open about the reason for their hardline approach. As the New York Times says, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned that the arrival of “refugees” posed a “demographic” risk to Israel: “If we don’t stop their entry, the problem that currently stands at 60,000 could grow to 600,000, and that threatens our existence as a Jewish and democratic state,” he said.

    So it is clear that the Jews understand—correctly—that a mass Third World invasion will destroy their country, and they are very clear and open about this fact.

    Nonetheless, at the very same time, they are actively funding and aiding a mass Third World invasion of Europe—knowing full well that this will destroy Europe.
     
    Barbara Lerner Spectre calls for destruction of Christian European ethnic societies
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

    "I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive."
     

    Yes, if Swedish males had balls, they’d deport foreigners like Barbara Specter, and jail any of their own people who said the same thing.

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    Her role in the European White Genocide project must be fully investigated first. Deportation might not be enough.

    Not only is this (Swedish taxpayer funded) outsider completely skipping Sweden's interests in her proclamations but she's firmly telling Europe what it "must" do if it wants to "survive".

    Let's not beat around the bush: who the fuck does she think she is and what, exactly, does this mean:

    But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.
     
  113. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Here’s James Damore’s WSJ article, which clarifies a few points raised above:

    Appeared in the August 12, 2017, print edition of the Wall Street Journal as ‘Why I Was Fired By Google.’

    [MORE]

    I was fired by Google this past Monday for a document that I wrote and circulated internally raising questions about cultural taboos and how they cloud our thinking about gender diversity at the company and in the wider tech sector. I suggested that at least some of the male-female disparity in tech could be attributed to biological differences (and, yes, I said that bias against women was a factor too). Google Chief Executive Sundar Pichai declared that portions of my statement violated the company’s code of conduct and “cross the line by advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace.”

    My 10-page document set out what I considered a reasoned, well-researched, good-faith argument, but as I wrote, the viewpoint I was putting forward is generally suppressed at Google because of the company’s “ideological echo chamber.” My firing neatly confirms that point. How did Google, the company that hires the smartest people in the world, become so ideologically driven and intolerant of scientific debate and reasoned argument?

    We all have moral preferences and beliefs about how the world is and should be. Having these views challenged can be painful, so we tend to avoid people with differing values and to associate with those who share our values. This self-segregation has become much more potent in recent decades. We are more mobile and can sort ourselves into different communities; we wait longer to find and choose just the right mate; and we spend much of our time in a digital world personalized to fit our views.

    Google is a particularly intense echo chamber because it is in the middle of Silicon Valley and is so life-encompassing as a place to work. With free food, internal meme boards and weekly companywide meetings, Google becomes a huge part of its employees’ lives. Some even live on campus. For many, including myself, working at Google is a major part of their identity, almost like a cult with its own leaders and saints, all believed to righteously uphold the sacred motto of “Don’t be evil.”

    Echo chambers maintain themselves by creating a shared spirit and keeping discussion confined within certain limits. As Noam Chomsky once observed, “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum.”

    But echo chambers also have to guard against dissent and opposition. Whether it’s in our homes, online or in our workplaces, a consensus is maintained by shaming people into conformity or excommunicating them if they persist in violating taboos. Public shaming serves not only to display the virtue of those doing the shaming but also warns others that the same punishment awaits them if they don’t conform.

    In my document, I committed heresy against the Google creed by stating that not all disparities between men and women that we see in the world are the result of discriminatory treatment. When I first circulated the document about a month ago to our diversity groups and individuals at Google, there was no outcry or charge of misogyny. I engaged in reasoned discussion with some of my peers on these issues, but mostly I was ignored.

    Everything changed when the document went viral within the company and the wider tech world. Those most zealously committed to the diversity creed—that all differences in outcome are due to differential treatment and all people are inherently the same—could not let this public offense go unpunished. They sent angry emails to Google’s human-resources department and everyone up my management chain, demanding censorship, retaliation and atonement.

    Upper management tried to placate this surge of outrage by shaming me and misrepresenting my document, but they couldn’t really do otherwise: The mob would have set upon anyone who openly agreed with me or even tolerated my views. When the whole episode finally became a giant media controversy, thanks to external leaks, Google had to solve the problem caused by my supposedly sexist, anti-diversity manifesto, and the whole company came under heated and sometimes threatening scrutiny.

    It saddens me to leave Google and to see the company silence open and honest discussion. If Google continues to ignore the very real issues raised by its diversity policies and corporate culture, it will be walking blind into the future—unable to meet the needs of its remarkable employees and sure to disappoint its billions of users.

    —Mr. Damore worked as a software engineer at Google’s Mountain View campus from 2013 until this past week.

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  114. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @CanSpeccy
    Yes, if Swedish males had balls, they'd deport foreigners like Barbara Specter, and jail any of their own people who said the same thing.

    Her role in the European White Genocide project must be fully investigated first. Deportation might not be enough.

    Not only is this (Swedish taxpayer funded) outsider completely skipping Sweden’s interests in her proclamations but she’s firmly telling Europe what it “must” do if it wants to “survive“.

    Let’s not beat around the bush: who the fuck does she think she is and what, exactly, does this mean:

    But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.

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    Yes Specter is saying the European peoples must be destroyed in order to be saved.

    The amazing thing is, the politically correct indoctrination of Europeans has brought many of them to the point that they believe such vicious propaganda.

    Maybe Specter is such a moron that she believes it too. In any case, should it come to a trial, I should think a plea of imbecility would be her best defense. Her personal appearance would support the claim.

  115. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    I think whites males in this nation are under stress due to the confluence of tectonic global shifts.
     
    I like the reference to "tectonic global shifts" as it suggests the probable causes of these massive demographic changes have little to do with peoples' actions...they are merely the byproduct of natural forces, kinda' like how an apple falls to the ground due to the force of gravity.

    Here are some hard facts that put the lie to this assertion:

    Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review

    Kevin MacDonald

    California State University-Long Beach

    This paper discusses Jewish involvement in shaping United States immigration policy. In addition to a periodic interest in fostering the immigration of co-religionists as a result of anti-Semitic movements, Jews have an interest in opposing the establishment of ethnically and culturally homogeneous societies in which they resideas minorities. Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples. These activities have involved leadership in Congress, organizing and funding anti-restrictionist groups composed of Jews and gentiles, and originating intellectual movements opposed to evolutionary and biological perspectives in the social sciences.
     
    An excerpt from p. 300:

    A congruent opinion is expressed by prominent Jewish social scientist and political activist Earl Raab’ who remarks very positively on the success of revised American immigration policy in altering the ethnic composition of the United States since 1965. Raab notes that the Jewish community has taken a leadership role in changing the Northwestern European bias of American immigration policy (1993a, p. 17), and he has also maintained that one factor inhibiting anti-Semitism in the contemporary United States is that “(a)n increasing ethnic heterogeneity, as a result of immigration, has made it even more difficult for a political party or mass movement of bigotry to develop” (1995, p. 91). Or more colorfully:

    The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country. We [i.e., Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigotry for about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible—and makes our constitutional constraints against bigotry more practical than ever (Raab, 1993b, p. 23).
     
    Indeed, the “primary objective” of Jewish political activity after 1945 “was … to prevent the emergence of an anti-Semitic reactionary mass movement in the United States” (Svonkin 1997,1998).
     
    So, not to put too fine a point on it, what can be said is "mission accomplished" in terms of The Lobby's efforts to ensure that fascism never again rears its ugly head in the world. What we're witnessing now (e.g., Charlottsville, VA) are the last spasms of an organism that has been attacked by the "Diversity Is Our Strength" virus, implanted by The Lobby. But, as I keep reminding people, the tremendous success of The Lobby may be sowing the seeds of its own demise, as it will inevitably succumb to hubristic forces and keep reaching for more and more - e.g., the anti-BDS law that could fine Americans for up to $1M and imprison them for up to 20 yrs if they support BDS. These types of actions will convince more and more Americans that The Lobby is working against their interests and a day of reckoning will come.

    To avert this scenario from unfolding, my consistent advice has been for the Jewish community to take notice of these risks and to work to curb the influence of their powerful lobbies. These lobbies must immediately cease and desist from pursuing their nefarious objectives - both domestic (diversity is our strength) and foreign (the phony GWOT that has drained gallons of blood and trillions of dollars to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle) - that are inimical to the interests of the American people.

    Don't believe me? Here's what Prof. MacDonald predicts the future holds if things continue on the same path they're currently on:

    CONCLUSION

    The defeats of 1924 and 1952 did not prevent the ultimate victory of the Jewish interest in combating the cultural, political, and demographic dominance of the European-derived peoples of the United States. What is truly remarkable is the tenacity with which Jewish ethnic interests were pursued for a period of close to 100 years. Also remarkable was the ability to frame the argument of immigration-restrictionists in terms of racial superiority in the period from 1924-1965 rather than in such positive terms as the ethnic interests of the peoples of northern and western Europe in main- taining a status quo as of 1924.

    During the period between 1924 and 1965 Jewish interests were largely thwarted, but this did not prevent the ultimate triumph of the Jewish perspective on immigration.

    Although the success of the anti-restrictionist effort is an indication that people can be induced to be altruistic toward other groups, I rather doubt such altruism will continue to occur if there are obvious signs that the status and political power of the European-derived group is decreasing while the power of other groups increases as a result of immigration and other social policies. The prediction, both on common sense grounds and on the basis of psychological research on social identity process (e.g., Hogg & Abrams, 1987), is that as other groups become increasingly powerful and salient in a multicultural society, the European-derived peoples of the United States will become increasingly unified and that contemporary divisive influences among the European-derived peoples of the United States (e.g., issues related to gender and sexual orientation; social class differences; religious differences) will be increasingly perceived as unimportant. Eventually these groups will develop greater cohesion and a sense of common interest in their interactions with the other ethnic groups with profound consequences on the future history of America and the West.
     

    [I like the reference to “tectonic global shifts” as it suggests the probable causes of these massive demographic changes have little to do with peoples’ actions…they are merely the byproduct of natural forces, kinda’ like how an apple falls to the ground due to the force of gravity.]

    Wel if you like it, I am rather pleased that one of us does; matter of fact I don’t so much. Some cursory digging of SIC codes for manufacturing will set straight how globalised production has gotten; Americans cannot blow their noses with a tissue without touching an intermediate or final product made offshore, let alone other more durable goods. I understand the predicament, I struggle with the implications as well; but that ship sailed about 40 years ago, and for these U.S. to regain competitiveness and competency, requires nothing short of revolution, starting with a revolution in education and attitudes. Depending on dreams of segregation [is there an app for it?] to do it, furthers the opposite. Lessons need to be learned from Asia. Kevin McDonald’s collected croakings simply won’t do, mate.

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    I understand the predicament
     
    I don't think so. You sound too old and too out of touch, Shama.
  116. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Her role in the European White Genocide project must be fully investigated first. Deportation might not be enough.

    Not only is this (Swedish taxpayer funded) outsider completely skipping Sweden's interests in her proclamations but she's firmly telling Europe what it "must" do if it wants to "survive".

    Let's not beat around the bush: who the fuck does she think she is and what, exactly, does this mean:

    But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.
     

    Yes Specter is saying the European peoples must be destroyed in order to be saved.

    The amazing thing is, the politically correct indoctrination of Europeans has brought many of them to the point that they believe such vicious propaganda.

    Maybe Specter is such a moron that she believes it too. In any case, should it come to a trial, I should think a plea of imbecility would be her best defense. Her personal appearance would support the claim.

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  117. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Sam Shama
    [I like the reference to “tectonic global shifts” as it suggests the probable causes of these massive demographic changes have little to do with peoples’ actions…they are merely the byproduct of natural forces, kinda’ like how an apple falls to the ground due to the force of gravity.]

    Wel if you like it, I am rather pleased that one of us does; matter of fact I don't so much. Some cursory digging of SIC codes for manufacturing will set straight how globalised production has gotten; Americans cannot blow their noses with a tissue without touching an intermediate or final product made offshore, let alone other more durable goods. I understand the predicament, I struggle with the implications as well; but that ship sailed about 40 years ago, and for these U.S. to regain competitiveness and competency, requires nothing short of revolution, starting with a revolution in education and attitudes. Depending on dreams of segregation [is there an app for it?] to do it, furthers the opposite. Lessons need to be learned from Asia. Kevin McDonald's collected croakings simply won't do, mate.

    I understand the predicament

    I don’t think so. You sound too old and too out of touch, Shama.

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    Perhaps. And you? Too young and anonymously clued in?
  118. geokat62 says:

    I struggle with the implications as well; but that ship sailed about 40 years ago…

    It sailed exactly 52 years ago, to be more precise.

    … and for these U.S. to regain competitiveness and competency, requires nothing short of revolution, starting with a revolution in education and attitudes.

    Regaining competitiveness and competency is secondary to regaining one’s identity, especially for Europeans, but, while admitedly a long-shot, even for the European-derived peoples of the US.

    Lessons need to be learned from Asia.

    Lessons must indeed be drawn, but not from Asia. Our role model should be that to which Mika Almog, the grand-daughter of the late Shimon Peres, referred in a speech she gave at a J Street conference, early in 2017:

    In 2012, President Obama awarded my grandfather the Presidential Medal of Freedom. “Shimon,” he said, “teaches us to never settle for the world as it is. We have a vision of the world as it ought to be… and we have to strive for it.”

    What Presidents Perez and Obama suggest is a great daunting task. But if at moments fear should creep into your heart, to tell you it’s an impossible task, look no further than Israel. Zionism has always been against all odds. So if Israel is possible anything is possible.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/03/israel-sometimes-walk/#sthash.WKP5w5hl.dpuf

    Inspiring, isn’t it?

    Kevin McDonald’s collected croakings simply won’t do, mate.

    Time will tell. His “croakings” just might be the spark that ignites this revolution you speak of, mate!

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    [It sailed exactly 52 years ago, to be more precise.]

    When in doubt or in need of help dial the Lobby.

    [Regaining competitiveness and competency is secondary to regaining one’s identity, especially for Europeans, but, while admitedly a long-shot, even for the European-derived peoples of the US.]

    Why especially for Europeans? [btw did you take an American citizenship when Trudeau wasn't looking?]

    Genetic identity is a tricky and fascinating subject. It'll tell you things you may not like. There are many weighty questions to consider. Have you mapped your genes? My genetic story takes me principally to Northern Europe, with certain markers for Jewish Levites, which I happen to be. Phenotypically I am confident you wouldn't be able to pick me out from an Austrian crowd. Or perhaps you have a certain "science" of the 1930s to guide you?

    Other thorny matters arise. How do you deal with American Blacks, a great many of whom carry European genes. Do you have a proposal to separate the "Mainly European" ones from others? What do you do about our dear fellow commentator Talha, who is married to a Swedish lady?

    Answer those questions thoughtfully, Georgie, then you might be able to summon a better understanding of genetic identity and its relative importance versus competitiveness and competency. Sammy and his other thoughts shall wait.

    Culture is key; more so than race. For example, I am more concerned with the rapidity with which culture appears to change in London today. I am keen on preserving a U.K. the way I remember it; a country of cheerful, doughty and polite peoples. But America I found it fully formed what it is this day; a culture which renders yourself pliant to opening your wallet.

    Mika Perez? Is she on about love, Tikkun Olam or something? TL;DR

    [Time will tell. His “croakings” just might be the spark that ignites this revolution you speak of, mate!]

    Time has told; and aye, the spark that is likely to light the escaping methane.

  119. @Anonymous
    Israel Officially Aids 3rd World Invasion
    http://newobserveronline.com/israel-officially-aids-3rd-world-invasion/

    The Jews are quite open about the reason for their hardline approach. As the New York Times says, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned that the arrival of “refugees” posed a “demographic” risk to Israel: “If we don’t stop their entry, the problem that currently stands at 60,000 could grow to 600,000, and that threatens our existence as a Jewish and democratic state,” he said.

    So it is clear that the Jews understand—correctly—that a mass Third World invasion will destroy their country, and they are very clear and open about this fact.

    Nonetheless, at the very same time, they are actively funding and aiding a mass Third World invasion of Europe—knowing full well that this will destroy Europe.
     
    Barbara Lerner Spectre calls for destruction of Christian European ethnic societies
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

    "I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive."
     

    You’re deliberately being very selective here. A lot of the Israeli media is against third world immigration into Europe. Read the Jerusalem Post and compare it with what is written in the the New York Times. You are conflating the views of people in Israel with the views of diaspora Jews in big cities in the US.

    Different groups, different opinions.

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    Yeah, maybe you should tweet "#NotAllJews" every time Soros delivers a boatload of Muslims into Europe and "#NotAllMuslims" when one of them blows up in a crowd.

    I think there is a resurgence of anti-white sentiment because at this point in time Israel has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Israel is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. The white race is going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Israel to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and the white race will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Israel will not survive.
  120. Sam Shama says:
    @Anonymous

    I understand the predicament
     
    I don't think so. You sound too old and too out of touch, Shama.

    Perhaps. And you? Too young and anonymously clued in?

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  121. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    I struggle with the implications as well; but that ship sailed about 40 years ago...
     
    It sailed exactly 52 years ago, to be more precise.

    ... and for these U.S. to regain competitiveness and competency, requires nothing short of revolution, starting with a revolution in education and attitudes.
     
    Regaining competitiveness and competency is secondary to regaining one's identity, especially for Europeans, but, while admitedly a long-shot, even for the European-derived peoples of the US.

    Lessons need to be learned from Asia.
     
    Lessons must indeed be drawn, but not from Asia. Our role model should be that to which Mika Almog, the grand-daughter of the late Shimon Peres, referred in a speech she gave at a J Street conference, early in 2017:

    In 2012, President Obama awarded my grandfather the Presidential Medal of Freedom. "Shimon," he said, "teaches us to never settle for the world as it is. We have a vision of the world as it ought to be... and we have to strive for it."

    What Presidents Perez and Obama suggest is a great daunting task. But if at moments fear should creep into your heart, to tell you it's an impossible task, look no further than Israel. Zionism has always been against all odds. So if Israel is possible anything is possible.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/03/israel-sometimes-walk/#sthash.WKP5w5hl.dpuf
     
    Inspiring, isn't it?

    Kevin McDonald’s collected croakings simply won’t do, mate.
     
    Time will tell. His "croakings" just might be the spark that ignites this revolution you speak of, mate!

    [It sailed exactly 52 years ago, to be more precise.]

    When in doubt or in need of help dial the Lobby.

    [Regaining competitiveness and competency is secondary to regaining one’s identity, especially for Europeans, but, while admitedly a long-shot, even for the European-derived peoples of the US.]

    Why especially for Europeans? [btw did you take an American citizenship when Trudeau wasn't looking?]

    Genetic identity is a tricky and fascinating subject. It’ll tell you things you may not like. There are many weighty questions to consider. Have you mapped your genes? My genetic story takes me principally to Northern Europe, with certain markers for Jewish Levites, which I happen to be. Phenotypically I am confident you wouldn’t be able to pick me out from an Austrian crowd. Or perhaps you have a certain “science” of the 1930s to guide you?

    Other thorny matters arise. How do you deal with American Blacks, a great many of whom carry European genes. Do you have a proposal to separate the “Mainly European” ones from others? What do you do about our dear fellow commentator Talha, who is married to a Swedish lady?

    Answer those questions thoughtfully, Georgie, then you might be able to summon a better understanding of genetic identity and its relative importance versus competitiveness and competency. Sammy and his other thoughts shall wait.

    Culture is key; more so than race. For example, I am more concerned with the rapidity with which culture appears to change in London today. I am keen on preserving a U.K. the way I remember it; a country of cheerful, doughty and polite peoples. But America I found it fully formed what it is this day; a culture which renders yourself pliant to opening your wallet.

    Mika Perez? Is she on about love, Tikkun Olam or something? TL;DR

    [Time will tell. His “croakings” just might be the spark that ignites this revolution you speak of, mate!]

    Time has told; and aye, the spark that is likely to light the escaping methane.

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    Culture is key; more so than race.
     
    Not so. Culture is an artifact. We could have any culture we wanted (using the term "we" rather vaguely). But race, i.e., a gene pool, once destroyed, has gone for ever. The British have a unique gene pool that produced Shakespeare, Newton, Darwin, Sam Johnson, Adam Smith, David Hume and much, perhaps most, of the modern world including the state of Israel. I'm absolutely opposed to destroying that gene pool by a combination of repressed fertility (aka state-imposed sex "education"), and mass replacement immigration. Most Brits are too, according to the latest Brexit poll, which shows 70% for hard Brexit, meaning no free movement, aka mass replacement immigration. And if you disagree, I like to see you put the same argument to the Israelis.
  122. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @unpc downunder
    You're deliberately being very selective here. A lot of the Israeli media is against third world immigration into Europe. Read the Jerusalem Post and compare it with what is written in the the New York Times. You are conflating the views of people in Israel with the views of diaspora Jews in big cities in the US.

    Different groups, different opinions.

    Yeah, maybe you should tweet “#NotAllJews” every time Soros delivers a boatload of Muslims into Europe and “#NotAllMuslims” when one of them blows up in a crowd.

    I think there is a resurgence of anti-white sentiment because at this point in time Israel has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Israel is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. The white race is going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Israel to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and the white race will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Israel will not survive.

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  123. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Sam Shama
    [It sailed exactly 52 years ago, to be more precise.]

    When in doubt or in need of help dial the Lobby.

    [Regaining competitiveness and competency is secondary to regaining one’s identity, especially for Europeans, but, while admitedly a long-shot, even for the European-derived peoples of the US.]

    Why especially for Europeans? [btw did you take an American citizenship when Trudeau wasn't looking?]

    Genetic identity is a tricky and fascinating subject. It'll tell you things you may not like. There are many weighty questions to consider. Have you mapped your genes? My genetic story takes me principally to Northern Europe, with certain markers for Jewish Levites, which I happen to be. Phenotypically I am confident you wouldn't be able to pick me out from an Austrian crowd. Or perhaps you have a certain "science" of the 1930s to guide you?

    Other thorny matters arise. How do you deal with American Blacks, a great many of whom carry European genes. Do you have a proposal to separate the "Mainly European" ones from others? What do you do about our dear fellow commentator Talha, who is married to a Swedish lady?

    Answer those questions thoughtfully, Georgie, then you might be able to summon a better understanding of genetic identity and its relative importance versus competitiveness and competency. Sammy and his other thoughts shall wait.

    Culture is key; more so than race. For example, I am more concerned with the rapidity with which culture appears to change in London today. I am keen on preserving a U.K. the way I remember it; a country of cheerful, doughty and polite peoples. But America I found it fully formed what it is this day; a culture which renders yourself pliant to opening your wallet.

    Mika Perez? Is she on about love, Tikkun Olam or something? TL;DR

    [Time will tell. His “croakings” just might be the spark that ignites this revolution you speak of, mate!]

    Time has told; and aye, the spark that is likely to light the escaping methane.

    Culture is key; more so than race.

    Not so. Culture is an artifact. We could have any culture we wanted (using the term “we” rather vaguely). But race, i.e., a gene pool, once destroyed, has gone for ever. The British have a unique gene pool that produced Shakespeare, Newton, Darwin, Sam Johnson, Adam Smith, David Hume and much, perhaps most, of the modern world including the state of Israel. I’m absolutely opposed to destroying that gene pool by a combination of repressed fertility (aka state-imposed sex “education”), and mass replacement immigration. Most Brits are too, according to the latest Brexit poll, which shows 70% for hard Brexit, meaning no free movement, aka mass replacement immigration. And if you disagree, I like to see you put the same argument to the Israelis.

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    Cultures shape over centuries; sporadically changing, oft frozen, oft a changeling! Colourful, bleak, peaceable, violent, all of it in all those moments as the chrysalis struggles to form. One couldn't just pick it as one would a pair of morning trousers, could one?

    British culture is everything you say it is. It has its dark side, but I choose remembrance through a Constable vista of vivid meadows, of a people gentled by them. I do not wish for that to change.

    Nor shall it, for I reckon the trends feared in that Guardian article you linked to, are based on an extrapolation into the future far too flatly. Which is not to say that vigilance and a firm hand to limit immigration to a tolerable level, incising the inmigration of an openly un-assimilative lot should not be undertaken. They surely must. As must go the LGBTQ humbug. These are matters un-complicated to agree upon.

    As for Israel, I see it not a bit differently. Israel, re-founded with the blessing of the British Crown, is the nation of the Jewish people who hail from all corners of the Earth. She is also home to Arab Muslims and Christians, fully 25% of the population, a proportion significantly higher than in the U.K., and therefore perhaps sub-optimal. Still, they'll have to make do.

    On America, there's a great deal to mull over. For now, I'll only mention that in my contacts with the Kevin McD's of this nation, I sense something missing, not in the department of cloddish sinisterness, of which they possess aplenty, but rather in a wilful neglect of the lessons of history. If these are the people in opposition to the core American values which undergird exceptionalism - individual liberty and voluntary transactions - their defeat is certain. To make a clearer case for American culture look to the traditional platform of Republicans to re-emerge in the fullness of time.

  124. geokat62 says:

    Or perhaps you have a certain “science” of the 1930s to guide you?

    There’s a template already out there that we can follow.

    Culture is key; more so than race.

    Rich, coming from a self-professed Zionist.

    Time has told; and aye, the spark that is likely to light the escaping methane.

    I wouldn’t get too cocky if I were you, as this story is far from over. Although things admitedly look dismal today, there is plenty of time for several more plot turns. And if Prof. MacDonald is right, the future could be a turbulent one. So cockiness may not be the right attitude to have, just yet.

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    [I wouldn’t get too cocky if I were you, as this story is far from over. Although things admitedly look dismal today, there is plenty of time for several more plot turns. And if Prof. MacDonald is right, the future could be a turbulent one. So cockiness may not be the right attitude to have, just yet.]

    I am not you. That's first. Second, do please add a second 't', this being the second instance of 'admitedly' in recent communications. It pains me on occasion to witness a 'cocky' disregard for spell-checkers. Add a smile.

    So much for cockiness. It didn't escape my attention that you, with customary dodginess, evaded all the weighty questions. I'll repaste:

    Other thorny matters arise. How do you deal with American Blacks, a great many of whom carry European genes. Do you have a proposal to separate the “Mainly European” ones from others? What do you do about our dear fellow commentator Talha, who is married to a Swedish lady?

    Answer those questions thoughtfully, Georgie, then you might be able to summon a better understanding of genetic identity and its relative importance versus competitiveness and competency. Sammy and his other thoughts shall wait.
     
  125. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Culture is key; more so than race.
     
    Not so. Culture is an artifact. We could have any culture we wanted (using the term "we" rather vaguely). But race, i.e., a gene pool, once destroyed, has gone for ever. The British have a unique gene pool that produced Shakespeare, Newton, Darwin, Sam Johnson, Adam Smith, David Hume and much, perhaps most, of the modern world including the state of Israel. I'm absolutely opposed to destroying that gene pool by a combination of repressed fertility (aka state-imposed sex "education"), and mass replacement immigration. Most Brits are too, according to the latest Brexit poll, which shows 70% for hard Brexit, meaning no free movement, aka mass replacement immigration. And if you disagree, I like to see you put the same argument to the Israelis.

    Cultures shape over centuries; sporadically changing, oft frozen, oft a changeling! Colourful, bleak, peaceable, violent, all of it in all those moments as the chrysalis struggles to form. One couldn’t just pick it as one would a pair of morning trousers, could one?

    British culture is everything you say it is. It has its dark side, but I choose remembrance through a Constable vista of vivid meadows, of a people gentled by them. I do not wish for that to change.

    Nor shall it, for I reckon the trends feared in that Guardian article you linked to, are based on an extrapolation into the future far too flatly. Which is not to say that vigilance and a firm hand to limit immigration to a tolerable level, incising the inmigration of an openly un-assimilative lot should not be undertaken. They surely must. As must go the LGBTQ humbug. These are matters un-complicated to agree upon.

    As for Israel, I see it not a bit differently. Israel, re-founded with the blessing of the British Crown, is the nation of the Jewish people who hail from all corners of the Earth. She is also home to Arab Muslims and Christians, fully 25% of the population, a proportion significantly higher than in the U.K., and therefore perhaps sub-optimal. Still, they’ll have to make do.

    On America, there’s a great deal to mull over. For now, I’ll only mention that in my contacts with the Kevin McD’s of this nation, I sense something missing, not in the department of cloddish sinisterness, of which they possess aplenty, but rather in a wilful neglect of the lessons of history. If these are the people in opposition to the core American values which undergird exceptionalism – individual liberty and voluntary transactions – their defeat is certain. To make a clearer case for American culture look to the traditional platform of Republicans to re-emerge in the fullness of time.

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    but I choose remembrance through a Constable vista of vivid meadows, of a people gentled by them.
     
    And when the Muslim settlers have conquered by the womb not the sword, they'll probably have the sheep, the cattle the horses and the people painted out of
    every Constables vista
    , that's if they don't simply burn the canvases.
  126. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Or perhaps you have a certain “science” of the 1930s to guide you?
     
    There's a template already out there that we can follow.

    Culture is key; more so than race.
     
    Rich, coming from a self-professed Zionist.

    Time has told; and aye, the spark that is likely to light the escaping methane.
     
    I wouldn't get too cocky if I were you, as this story is far from over. Although things admitedly look dismal today, there is plenty of time for several more plot turns. And if Prof. MacDonald is right, the future could be a turbulent one. So cockiness may not be the right attitude to have, just yet.

    [I wouldn’t get too cocky if I were you, as this story is far from over. Although things admitedly look dismal today, there is plenty of time for several more plot turns. And if Prof. MacDonald is right, the future could be a turbulent one. So cockiness may not be the right attitude to have, just yet.]

    I am not you. That’s first. Second, do please add a second ‘t’, this being the second instance of ‘admitedly’ in recent communications. It pains me on occasion to witness a ‘cocky’ disregard for spell-checkers. Add a smile.

    So much for cockiness. It didn’t escape my attention that you, with customary dodginess, evaded all the weighty questions. I’ll repaste:

    Other thorny matters arise. How do you deal with American Blacks, a great many of whom carry European genes. Do you have a proposal to separate the “Mainly European” ones from others? What do you do about our dear fellow commentator Talha, who is married to a Swedish lady?

    Answer those questions thoughtfully, Georgie, then you might be able to summon a better understanding of genetic identity and its relative importance versus competitiveness and competency. Sammy and his other thoughts shall wait.

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  127. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama
    Rurik, try not to get hysterical. Google is a technology company which, after reaching the pinnacle of success, arrives at a place where its platform is sought by various interests [including logically, the philosophies of its leaders] to serve in the furtherance of a select set of principles beyond its main commercial interests. So why should they allow any internal opposition to those principles from their own employees? They wouldn't. Would you in your own business? Of course, if any of those values/ideologies violate the law the courts stand ready to hear complaints.

    You and I may not like it [I don't], but their commercial policies are driven by stockholder interest and keeping pressure groups in a state of controllable suspension. Not by a bill of rights extended to all those who use its search platform. If you do not like their policies, there is little you can do in a free society, beyond (a) not using their services, or, (b) exhorting the government's Antitrust Department to break them up; a notion I heartily support. Well, there is a third; you could start your own search engine enterprise and give them competition.

    What on earth are you babbling about "forced integration?". My conversations with Iffen were very clear regarding my views which you are clearly misrepresenting. I believe there is no need for Segregation. I believe in individual choice. Whites and Blacks are, for all practical purposes separated in this nation. The separation is principally on account of economic disparities. I find the notion of segregation, superfluous, archaic, uncivil, unscientific and, not to put too fine a point on it, stupid. Tell me, what would you prefer to have in a nation already populated with so many diverse peoples? Separate colonies for North Europeans, South Europeans, East Europeans, Jews, Blacks, Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Native Americans, Philipinos, Japanese, Koreans? What about those families which are mixed in race? I await your wise counsel. [A related point to keep in mind if history teaches us anything, it is that whites in Europe did not lack for strife or visiting death on each other].

    To add to my position, I believe in the idea of individual responsibility, the value of work and an economy organised around the principle of voluntary transactions. The very ideas behind American exceptionalism. In a bit of a contradiction, I am also a monarchist; but only when I find myself in England :-).

    I think whites males in this nation are under stress due to the confluence of tectonic global shifts. You are not going to get very far by pushing for half-baked ideas. There are many social imbalances and oddities, crony capitalistic laws, which afflict America today; signs of excess; shades of Rome? I don't have any clear remedies for any of these, but I can tell you the answer does not lie in some of the ideas you spout.

    Google is a technology company which, after reaching the pinnacle of success, arrives at a place where its platform is sought by various interests [including logically, the philosophies of its leaders] to serve in the furtherance of a select set of principles beyond its main commercial interests.

    duh

    that’s what we’ve all been talking about

    So why should they allow any internal opposition to those principles from their own employees?

    because they sanctimoniously vomit buckets of “diversity” newspeak, which is a vile lie, because the only diversity they’re interested is the kind that discriminates against white men and makes any kind of diversity of opinion about such an Orwellian philosophy verboten, which is hardly valuing diversity, but rather is more like a goose-stepping tyrannical and racist corporation. And to simply point out that obvious fact, will now get you fired.

    They wouldn’t. Would you in your own business?

    of course I would and have. I’ve hired a very diverse crowd of wonderful and eclectic people. Indians (trinis), Jewish women, Puerto Ricans and French Canadians, Cubans, Germans, Brits, Mexicans, and anyone else who has the skills and work ethic to make my business successful.

    And everyone who knows me knows that I respect all points of view, even if they’re wrong. But I’d never demand fealty to any one point of view. That would be a complete heresy of everything I stand for. In case you haven’t noticed, I love the battle of ideas. Provided everyone is respectful of other’s right to their ideas, even when wrong Sam. ;)

    You and I may not like it [I don't], but their commercial policies are driven by stockholder interest and keeping pressure groups in a state of controllable
    suspension

    only the pressure groups they don’t like

    they’re basically like the NYT, a seminal institution for the dissemination of information with access to that information being controlled and distorted to suit an agenda. And, in the case of Google, an uber-liberal / progressive, overtly anti-white agenda, (just like the NYT ; )

    What on earth are you babbling about “forced integration?”. My conversations with Iffen were very clear regarding my views which you are clearly misrepresenting. I believe there is no need for Segregation. I believe in individual choice. Whites and Blacks are, for all practical purposes separated in this nation

    not when the government can help it

    and I’m not misrepresenting you. You were very clear that any (white) person who supports segregating for the purposes of raising his family away from hostile and dangerous minorities, was to your opinion; reprehensible (even if you didn’t use that precise word). I’m not quoting you because I have no interest in going back and looking at the comments, but I’m sure you’ll agree that you still believe that a white person who specifically does not want to raise his or her children among violent and aggressive and hate-filled minorities is somehow deplorable. Or no? If you’d care to repudiate that, and yes that ‘yes, I’d feel the same way if I lived in Detroit. I’d want to get my white children the **** out of there!’

    Then I consider the matter closed, and you’ve seen the light ;)

    Tell me, what would you prefer to have in a nation already populated with so many diverse peoples? Separate colonies for North Europeans, South Europeans, East Europeans, Jews, Blacks, Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Native Americans, Philipinos, Japanese, Koreans?

    isn’t that the fundamental principle underlying Zionism?

    if you’re willing to call that principle “stupid”, then why are we spending 38 billion dollars to support exactly such a principle?

    are Jews unique in that Jews and *only* Jews should be allowed to have a country of their own?

    eh Sam?

    What about those families which are mixed in race?

    you tell me…

    if a baby is born of a Jewish father and black Baptist mother here in the US, should that baby be allowed to make aliyah to Israel?

    what if the baby has a Palestinian father and a Jewish mother? Does that matter? Even if the baby is not raised Jewish, but Muslim? And the mother has converted.

    where does Sam come down on these nuanced questions?

    Europe did not lack for strife or visiting death on each other

    that’s true, but in the last two conflagrations there was a hidden hand behind the death, wasn’t there? Have you ever heard of the Balfour Declaration Sam?

    I think whites males in this nation are under stress due to the confluence of tectonic global shifts.

    you could say the exact same thing about Palestinians, and remove all agency and blame from their existential mistreatment and eventual annihilation. ‘it just sort of happened, you know…’

    There are many social imbalances and oddities, crony capitalistic laws, which afflict America today; signs of excess…

    is that what’s mean by dissembling, Sam?

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  128. geokat62 says:

    I am not you. That’s first.

    I know you’re not me. That’s why said “if I were you,” and not “if you were me.” There’s that logic thing again that Avnery pointed out.

    Second, do please add a second ‘t’, this being the second instance of ‘admitedly’ in recent communications. It pains me on occasion to witness a ‘cocky’ disregard for spell-checkers. Add a smile.

    While I admitedly misspelled “admittedly,” I am always pleased to find you harping on my spelling mistakes instead of addressing the substance of my arguments. It’s a sure sign that you’ve got nothing to refute them. (Oh, just for the record, I’m sure if we have someone comb through all your previous comments they may across a few spelling mistakes of your own, no?) Add a smile.

    So much for cockiness. It didn’t escape my attention that you, with customary dodginess, evaded all the weighty questions. I’ll repaste:

    I thought I already addressed your “weighty” questions when I wrote: “There’s a template already out there that we can follow.”

    As you well know many of these thorny issues are exactly what the Zionist state has been wrestling with. All that is required is to append a few more provisions to what they have already developed.

    And speaking of “customary dodginess,” I seem to recall that iffen had put a number of questions to you regarding how the Iraq invasion was supposedly a benefit to the US and not Israel and that you had committed to providing him a response. You must still be working on it, I suppose?

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    Depositing McDonald's croakings, a worthy substance does not make. Most of his work has been thoroughly discredited by his own colleagues and he is persona non-grata in polite company. I won't go into Avnery's logic which you seek only as a first derivative, wrong in the particular and false in the general.

    Which template do you speak of? Let's dispense with the coquettish "template out there", shall we? In your own words, please. That is what I mean by you being dodgy. You and your ilk ought to avail the anonymity offered by this forum and spill your guts. Reveal to me your understanding of this "template", Once again, don't be shy:

    How do you deal with American Blacks, a great many of whom carry European genes. Do you have a proposal to separate the “Mainly European” ones from others? What do you do about our dear fellow commentator Talha, who is married to a Swedish lady?

    Answer those questions thoughtfully, Georgie, then you might be able to summon a better understanding of genetic identity and its relative importance versus competitiveness and competency. Sammy and his other thoughts shall wait.
     
    So you follow the Zionist State do you me hearties? Good. I'll upgrade your membership and yearly dues.

    [Also, can you please revert back to linked responses? It's damned odd this new habit, worse than the beastly weather]
  129. Sam Shama says:

    because they sanctimoniously vomit buckets of “diversity” newspeak,

    They do that lest they fall foul of anti-discrimination laws and open themselves to lawsuits.

    which is a vile lie, because the only diversity they’re interested is the kind that discriminates against white men

    Nonsense; that is observably untrue: Google employees are predominantly men (70%) and predominantly white (61%). No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google.

    The gender data shared is global for all Google’s 50,000 employees, while the ethnicity data is strictly for the company’s U.S. employees. Overall, 70% of Google employees are male, and 91% of U.S. employees are either white or Asian. Google’s leadership is even less diverse: 79% of Google’s leadership is male, while 72% of its leadership is white.

    http://mashable.com/2014/05/28/google-employee-demographics/#iR_yd_Jy78qs

    They mouth the diversity pablum to keep the agitprop crowd at bay. Mostly, that is. Some of Google’s human resource related divisions have been captured by feminazis. Also, Sharpton and Jackson receive protection money. As I said before, both conditions are but costs of doing business. Major corps are all under enormous pressure on these counts.

    and I’m not misrepresenting you. You were very clear that any (white) person who supports segregating for the purposes of raising his family away from hostile and dangerous minorities, was to your opinion; reprehensible (even if you didn’t use that precise word). I’m not quoting you because I have no interest in going back and looking at the comments, but I’m sure you’ll agree that you still believe that a white person who specifically does not want to raise his or her children among violent and aggressive and hate-filled minorities is somehow deplorable. Or no? If you’d care to repudiate that, and yes that ‘yes, I’d feel the same way if I lived in Detroit. I’d want to get my white children the **** out of there!’

    Bollocks. Another example of your hysterics, and completely false. What I said was, in America today, Segregation is illegal. It is also unnecessary since people reveal their preferences by living where they choose to. Overwhelmingly that choice is driven by economics. I am sure you understand the meaning of free choice. If a white family finds raising children difficult in parts of Detroit, they’d move, as they most often do. Which hate-filled minorities are you going on about?

    are Jews unique in that Jews and *only* Jews should be allowed to have a country of their own?

    look at #130 above. http://www.unz.com/article/making-sense-of-the-google-memo/#comment-1968129

    if a baby is born of a Jewish father and black Baptist mother here in the US, should that baby be allowed to make aliyah to Israel?

    Yes, and in fact, I know one. Do you know the population density of Israel? About 1000/mile^2. The US is 85/mile^2. The capacities of the two are not comparable.

    what if the baby has a Palestinian father and a Jewish mother? Does that matter? Even if the baby is not raised Jewish, but Muslim? And the mother has converted.

    The baby by Halachic law and the secular law is allowed to receive citizenship. You may be unaware, but many such marriages do occur. If any were disallowed, it would’ve been for other reasons, mostly security related.

    you tell me…

    No. You tell me. I’ve answered almost all your questions. Your turn to answer a few. What do you tell Talha and his family? After all you chaps are the ones making all the noise in Virginia, aren’t you?

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    [Also, can you please revert back to linked responses? It's damned odd this new habit, worse than the beastly weather]
     
    I notice that you didn't 'link' to me, and I suspect it's a glitch with the software

    They do that lest they fall foul of anti-discrimination laws and open themselves to lawsuits.
     
    so you don't believe it's ideological. Would you say the same of the NYT?

    Google employees are predominantly men (70%) and predominantly white (61%).
     
    yes and they're screeching

    that's the whole point, (white) men are better at information tech than black women, but to notice this glaring and obvious fact makes you a vile racist!

    and you'll get fired for simply saying the emperor wears no clothes, because it isn't PC, and Google is very PC, ideologically, not from fear of Jessie


    No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google.
     
    um Sam, looks like your beanie fell off. No doubt the entire human resources division is chock full of 'womyn's studies' and 'black studies' and 'gender studies' graduates. Of whom no one pretends are net positives to the bottom line.

    They mouth the diversity pablum to keep the agitprop crowd at bay.
     
    yea right, that's why they fired the guy, to keep those pesky right winger 'agitprop' guys away

    Overwhelmingly that choice is driven by economics.
     
    bollocks right back at cha

    they segregate based on race, because blacks want to live among blacks, and browns want to live among browns, and yellows and whites and so on. Duh.


    Which hate-filled minorities are you going on about?
     
    the ones that attack your grandma because she's white and try to knock her out. It's even a game they play.

    blacks and some browns mostly. An occasional Muslim might go berserk. An occasional black lesbian, like the one who burned a 12 year old white child to death with an acetylene torch.



    are Jews unique in that Jews and *only* Jews should be allowed to have a country of their own?
     
    is the nation of the Jewish people who hail from all corners of the Earth.
     
    Ok, at least you're honest about it.

    Yes, and in fact, I know one. Do you know the population density of Israel? About 1000/mile^2. The US is 85/mile^2. The capacities of the two are not comparable.
     
    so it all boils down to density? What's the density of the Golan Heights? If it's sparse, does that still give the Jews the right to steal the land?

    The baby by Halachic law and the secular law is allowed to receive citizenship.
     
    even if it has a black, unconverted Christian mother?

    Really?


    What do you tell Talha and his family? After all you chaps are the ones making all the noise in Virginia, aren’t you?
     
    The people in Virginia have just as much right to march for their rights as anyone else does. And if you can't see that, it's only because you're a Jewish supremacist racial bigot. Not to worry, there are plenty of you lot.

    As for Talha, I've calculated it, and he's exactly one in 13. 7834 million. That kind of cosmopolitan eloquence and humane scholarship is very rare indeed, and he'd definitely get my vote for citizenship.

    As for most of the Muslims and Asians and Hispanics... when they were gracious guests, (and acted like it!) in this country, I feel they were mostly a net boon. Even a couple of the blacks.

    But now they're militant and arrogant and demanding their rights to stomp into our homelands and demand government largess and even their own laws and customs, and if it were up to me....

    ... they'd be right out on their arses. The second they so much as looked funny at any of our laws or customs or especially if they so much as touched one of our citizens. I wouldn't just deport them. I'd make an example of them in one of our less hospitable prisons, where they could surely enjoy some diversity up close and personal, and then I'd deport them. ;)

    they could spread the news to their homies in the barrios and third world, that America is not so welcoming as it once was.

    MAGA!

  130. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    I am not you. That’s first.
     
    I know you're not me. That's why said "if I were you," and not "if you were me." There's that logic thing again that Avnery pointed out.

    Second, do please add a second ‘t’, this being the second instance of ‘admitedly’ in recent communications. It pains me on occasion to witness a ‘cocky’ disregard for spell-checkers. Add a smile.
     
    While I admitedly misspelled "admittedly," I am always pleased to find you harping on my spelling mistakes instead of addressing the substance of my arguments. It's a sure sign that you've got nothing to refute them. (Oh, just for the record, I'm sure if we have someone comb through all your previous comments they may across a few spelling mistakes of your own, no?) Add a smile.

    So much for cockiness. It didn’t escape my attention that you, with customary dodginess, evaded all the weighty questions. I’ll repaste:
     
    I thought I already addressed your "weighty" questions when I wrote: "There’s a template already out there that we can follow."

    As you well know many of these thorny issues are exactly what the Zionist state has been wrestling with. All that is required is to append a few more provisions to what they have already developed.

    And speaking of "customary dodginess," I seem to recall that iffen had put a number of questions to you regarding how the Iraq invasion was supposedly a benefit to the US and not Israel and that you had committed to providing him a response. You must still be working on it, I suppose?

    Depositing McDonald’s croakings, a worthy substance does not make. Most of his work has been thoroughly discredited by his own colleagues and he is persona non-grata in polite company. I won’t go into Avnery’s logic which you seek only as a first derivative, wrong in the particular and false in the general.

    Which template do you speak of? Let’s dispense with the coquettish “template out there”, shall we? In your own words, please. That is what I mean by you being dodgy. You and your ilk ought to avail the anonymity offered by this forum and spill your guts. Reveal to me your understanding of this “template”, Once again, don’t be shy:

    How do you deal with American Blacks, a great many of whom carry European genes. Do you have a proposal to separate the “Mainly European” ones from others? What do you do about our dear fellow commentator Talha, who is married to a Swedish lady?

    Answer those questions thoughtfully, Georgie, then you might be able to summon a better understanding of genetic identity and its relative importance versus competitiveness and competency. Sammy and his other thoughts shall wait.

    So you follow the Zionist State do you me hearties? Good. I’ll upgrade your membership and yearly dues.

    [Also, can you please revert back to linked responses? It's damned odd this new habit, worse than the beastly weather]

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    Most of his work has been thoroughly discredited by his own colleagues and he is persona non-grata in polite company.
     
    Polite company? Oh, you must be referring to the kind of company that excludes people like Dorothy Thompson, Joe Sobran, Helen Thomas, and Charles Lindbergh, right? Goy's that don't know their proper place.

    Let’s dispense with the coquettish “template out there”, shall we? In your own words, please. That is what I mean by you being dodgy. You and your ilk ought to avail the anonymity offered by this forum and spill your guts.
     
    Listen, all I can say is that the kind of policies I support are nowhere near as odious as the kind that you support, as a defender of the Zionist state.

    I’ll upgrade your membership and yearly dues.
     
    No, thanks. I don't like to fund policies that have led to the death of over a million innocent people and the looting of the US treasury of over $6 trillion, taxpayer money that has been diverted from funding such important programs as health care and education.

    [Also, can you please revert back to linked responses? It's damned odd this new habit, worse than the beastly weather]
     
    You know what you have to do to make that nuisance go away.
  131. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Sam Shama
    Cultures shape over centuries; sporadically changing, oft frozen, oft a changeling! Colourful, bleak, peaceable, violent, all of it in all those moments as the chrysalis struggles to form. One couldn't just pick it as one would a pair of morning trousers, could one?

    British culture is everything you say it is. It has its dark side, but I choose remembrance through a Constable vista of vivid meadows, of a people gentled by them. I do not wish for that to change.

    Nor shall it, for I reckon the trends feared in that Guardian article you linked to, are based on an extrapolation into the future far too flatly. Which is not to say that vigilance and a firm hand to limit immigration to a tolerable level, incising the inmigration of an openly un-assimilative lot should not be undertaken. They surely must. As must go the LGBTQ humbug. These are matters un-complicated to agree upon.

    As for Israel, I see it not a bit differently. Israel, re-founded with the blessing of the British Crown, is the nation of the Jewish people who hail from all corners of the Earth. She is also home to Arab Muslims and Christians, fully 25% of the population, a proportion significantly higher than in the U.K., and therefore perhaps sub-optimal. Still, they'll have to make do.

    On America, there's a great deal to mull over. For now, I'll only mention that in my contacts with the Kevin McD's of this nation, I sense something missing, not in the department of cloddish sinisterness, of which they possess aplenty, but rather in a wilful neglect of the lessons of history. If these are the people in opposition to the core American values which undergird exceptionalism - individual liberty and voluntary transactions - their defeat is certain. To make a clearer case for American culture look to the traditional platform of Republicans to re-emerge in the fullness of time.

    but I choose remembrance through a Constable vista of vivid meadows, of a people gentled by them.

    And when the Muslim settlers have conquered by the womb not the sword, they’ll probably have the sheep, the cattle the horses and the people painted out of
    every Constables vista
    , that’s if they don’t simply burn the canvases.

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    Hello CanSpeccy

    I was totally unaware of the aniconism proscription in Islam. I have said this before and reiterate here, why I fear Islam. It's driven by two things: (a) their far superior fertility at least at this point in history and (2) Muslims possess today, far greater allure, a feeling of instant fraternity offered to youth in the U.K. and elsewhere in Europe; something clearly lacking in the myriads of Christian faith. Muslims in general are a dedicated, moral lot, often possessing qualities I admire [we ignore the criminals as one would for all faiths]; yet what makes that faith unacceptable to me are the two fundamental contradictions it carries against the core values of Western culture: freedom of association and a rejection of the voluntary transactions approach to economic life. There are many other incompatibilities, which I needn't go into here. In reality, and if we are to seriously counter that threat, youth must be offered a better alternative, from Christian faith leaders [Jews do not proselytise, as I'm sure you know or I'd have offered my services :-) ], Elders of each community and most of all, parents. Its not as tall a task as some might think. [The Jewish model of relaxing on the Sabbath around family without iPhones is a great start]. All of that has to be compulsorily supplemented by a strict and sensible immigration policy. Certainly in the U.K, which as you say has reached critical population density.

  132. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    because they sanctimoniously vomit buckets of “diversity” newspeak,
     
    They do that lest they fall foul of anti-discrimination laws and open themselves to lawsuits.

    which is a vile lie, because the only diversity they’re interested is the kind that discriminates against white men
     
    Nonsense; that is observably untrue: Google employees are predominantly men (70%) and predominantly white (61%). No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google.

    The gender data shared is global for all Google's 50,000 employees, while the ethnicity data is strictly for the company's U.S. employees. Overall, 70% of Google employees are male, and 91% of U.S. employees are either white or Asian. Google's leadership is even less diverse: 79% of Google's leadership is male, while 72% of its leadership is white.

    http://mashable.com/2014/05/28/google-employee-demographics/#iR_yd_Jy78qs
     

    They mouth the diversity pablum to keep the agitprop crowd at bay. Mostly, that is. Some of Google's human resource related divisions have been captured by feminazis. Also, Sharpton and Jackson receive protection money. As I said before, both conditions are but costs of doing business. Major corps are all under enormous pressure on these counts.

    and I’m not misrepresenting you. You were very clear that any (white) person who supports segregating for the purposes of raising his family away from hostile and dangerous minorities, was to your opinion; reprehensible (even if you didn’t use that precise word). I’m not quoting you because I have no interest in going back and looking at the comments, but I’m sure you’ll agree that you still believe that a white person who specifically does not want to raise his or her children among violent and aggressive and hate-filled minorities is somehow deplorable. Or no? If you’d care to repudiate that, and yes that ‘yes, I’d feel the same way if I lived in Detroit. I’d want to get my white children the **** out of there!’
     
    Bollocks. Another example of your hysterics, and completely false. What I said was, in America today, Segregation is illegal. It is also unnecessary since people reveal their preferences by living where they choose to. Overwhelmingly that choice is driven by economics. I am sure you understand the meaning of free choice. If a white family finds raising children difficult in parts of Detroit, they'd move, as they most often do. Which hate-filled minorities are you going on about?

    are Jews unique in that Jews and *only* Jews should be allowed to have a country of their own?
     

    look at #130 above. http://www.unz.com/article/making-sense-of-the-google-memo/#comment-1968129

    if a baby is born of a Jewish father and black Baptist mother here in the US, should that baby be allowed to make aliyah to Israel?
     

    Yes, and in fact, I know one. Do you know the population density of Israel? About 1000/mile^2. The US is 85/mile^2. The capacities of the two are not comparable.

    what if the baby has a Palestinian father and a Jewish mother? Does that matter? Even if the baby is not raised Jewish, but Muslim? And the mother has converted.
     
    The baby by Halachic law and the secular law is allowed to receive citizenship. You may be unaware, but many such marriages do occur. If any were disallowed, it would've been for other reasons, mostly security related.

    you tell me…
     
    No. You tell me. I've answered almost all your questions. Your turn to answer a few. What do you tell Talha and his family? After all you chaps are the ones making all the noise in Virginia, aren't you?

    [Also, can you please revert back to linked responses? It's damned odd this new habit, worse than the beastly weather]

    I notice that you didn’t ‘link’ to me, and I suspect it’s a glitch with the software

    They do that lest they fall foul of anti-discrimination laws and open themselves to lawsuits.

    so you don’t believe it’s ideological. Would you say the same of the NYT?

    Google employees are predominantly men (70%) and predominantly white (61%).

    yes and they’re screeching

    that’s the whole point, (white) men are better at information tech than black women, but to notice this glaring and obvious fact makes you a vile racist!

    and you’ll get fired for simply saying the emperor wears no clothes, because it isn’t PC, and Google is very PC, ideologically, not from fear of Jessie

    No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google.

    um Sam, looks like your beanie fell off. No doubt the entire human resources division is chock full of ‘womyn’s studies’ and ‘black studies’ and ‘gender studies’ graduates. Of whom no one pretends are net positives to the bottom line.

    They mouth the diversity pablum to keep the agitprop crowd at bay.

    yea right, that’s why they fired the guy, to keep those pesky right winger ‘agitprop’ guys away

    Overwhelmingly that choice is driven by economics.

    bollocks right back at cha

    they segregate based on race, because blacks want to live among blacks, and browns want to live among browns, and yellows and whites and so on. Duh.

    Which hate-filled minorities are you going on about?

    the ones that attack your grandma because she’s white and try to knock her out. It’s even a game they play.

    blacks and some browns mostly. An occasional Muslim might go berserk. An occasional black lesbian, like the one who burned a 12 year old white child to death with an acetylene torch.

    are Jews unique in that Jews and *only* Jews should be allowed to have a country of their own?

    is the nation of the Jewish people who hail from all corners of the Earth.

    Ok, at least you’re honest about it.

    Yes, and in fact, I know one. Do you know the population density of Israel? About 1000/mile^2. The US is 85/mile^2. The capacities of the two are not comparable.

    so it all boils down to density? What’s the density of the Golan Heights? If it’s sparse, does that still give the Jews the right to steal the land?

    The baby by Halachic law and the secular law is allowed to receive citizenship.

    even if it has a black, unconverted Christian mother?

    Really?

    What do you tell Talha and his family? After all you chaps are the ones making all the noise in Virginia, aren’t you?

    The people in Virginia have just as much right to march for their rights as anyone else does. And if you can’t see that, it’s only because you’re a Jewish supremacist racial bigot. Not to worry, there are plenty of you lot.

    As for Talha, I’ve calculated it, and he’s exactly one in 13. 7834 million. That kind of cosmopolitan eloquence and humane scholarship is very rare indeed, and he’d definitely get my vote for citizenship.

    As for most of the Muslims and Asians and Hispanics… when they were gracious guests, (and acted like it!) in this country, I feel they were mostly a net boon. Even a couple of the blacks.

    But now they’re militant and arrogant and demanding their rights to stomp into our homelands and demand government largess and even their own laws and customs, and if it were up to me….

    … they’d be right out on their arses. The second they so much as looked funny at any of our laws or customs or especially if they so much as touched one of our citizens. I wouldn’t just deport them. I’d make an example of them in one of our less hospitable prisons, where they could surely enjoy some diversity up close and personal, and then I’d deport them. ;)

    they could spread the news to their homies in the barrios and third world, that America is not so welcoming as it once was.

    MAGA!

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    No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google.
     
    This is where Shama loses all credibility (and his "thinking hat" bragging rights). Google is obviously employing racial/minority quotas in their hiring practices which makes it impossible to "hire anyone but the best". It also goes against his own claim that the company is not hiring the best but simply trying to avoid anti-discrimination lawsuits. He's talking about this company, by the way:

    Google pays €47m in tax in Ireland on €22bn sales revenue: http://archive.is/rGlMm

    Are they really afraid of the US laws?

    Second, his claim that:

    Google employees are predominantly men (70%) and predominantly white (61%).
     
    ...is demolishing his own argument since Ireland is 95% white.
    , @CanSpeccy

    But now they’re militant and arrogant and demanding their rights to stomp into our homelands and demand government largess and even their own laws and customs, and if it were up to me….

    … they’d be right out on their arses.
     

    Fifty years ago, old-fashioned liberals used to say, "the only answer to intolerance in intolerance." But now liberals are themselves so intolerant that they call any assertion of the rights of European peoples "white supremacism" (cf the Atlantic and Slate, here). It's time, then, to end toleration of liberal intolerance and bigotry. Time, in fact, to tell liberals to GFYs. Meantime, if Western governments fail to pay attention to the rights of the European people, whose rights and prosperity are being destroyed by a mass of immigrant settlers, there is surely going to be big trouble.

    As for Britain's Islamic no-go areas, what are the armed forces for?

    Certainly deploying aircraft carriers for which the Brits cannot afford the aircraft and which are vulnerable to any country able to afford a few Russian or Chinese anti-ship missiles is idiotic.The Brits should scuttle those ships now (they were originally ordered by Gordon Brown solely as a Scotch make-work project) and redeploy the manpower to a unit specifically trained to quell immigrant riots, eliminate no-go zones, and police the border.

    I support Sam's population density justification for Israel's "Jews only" immigration policy, the logic of which is even more applicable to England whence Sam derives, since England has a higher population density than Israel (413 km squared, versus Israel's 377).

    In fact, England is greatly overpopulated and it is time to reverse the treasonous immigration policies of the the Blair, Brown, Cameron and May governments by offering big incentives for the non-indigenous to leave. A few billion pounds would provide the necessary inducement for millions of the more unproductive non-indigenous residents of Britain to return home. Non-monetary benefits, e.g., subsidized access for children of former long-term UK residents to British universities, could yield both a beneficial impetus to the outflow of unwanted foreign population plus a fund of goodwill for Britain abroad.

    Such ideas run counter to the genocidal intent of mass immigration to the West, but the people have spoken. Seventy percent of Brits now want a hard Brexit because, as David Cameron acknowledged, the yes for Brexit was a vote against immigration.

  133. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rurik

    [Also, can you please revert back to linked responses? It's damned odd this new habit, worse than the beastly weather]
     
    I notice that you didn't 'link' to me, and I suspect it's a glitch with the software

    They do that lest they fall foul of anti-discrimination laws and open themselves to lawsuits.
     
    so you don't believe it's ideological. Would you say the same of the NYT?

    Google employees are predominantly men (70%) and predominantly white (61%).
     
    yes and they're screeching

    that's the whole point, (white) men are better at information tech than black women, but to notice this glaring and obvious fact makes you a vile racist!

    and you'll get fired for simply saying the emperor wears no clothes, because it isn't PC, and Google is very PC, ideologically, not from fear of Jessie


    No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google.
     
    um Sam, looks like your beanie fell off. No doubt the entire human resources division is chock full of 'womyn's studies' and 'black studies' and 'gender studies' graduates. Of whom no one pretends are net positives to the bottom line.

    They mouth the diversity pablum to keep the agitprop crowd at bay.
     
    yea right, that's why they fired the guy, to keep those pesky right winger 'agitprop' guys away

    Overwhelmingly that choice is driven by economics.
     
    bollocks right back at cha

    they segregate based on race, because blacks want to live among blacks, and browns want to live among browns, and yellows and whites and so on. Duh.


    Which hate-filled minorities are you going on about?
     
    the ones that attack your grandma because she's white and try to knock her out. It's even a game they play.

    blacks and some browns mostly. An occasional Muslim might go berserk. An occasional black lesbian, like the one who burned a 12 year old white child to death with an acetylene torch.



    are Jews unique in that Jews and *only* Jews should be allowed to have a country of their own?
     
    is the nation of the Jewish people who hail from all corners of the Earth.
     
    Ok, at least you're honest about it.

    Yes, and in fact, I know one. Do you know the population density of Israel? About 1000/mile^2. The US is 85/mile^2. The capacities of the two are not comparable.
     
    so it all boils down to density? What's the density of the Golan Heights? If it's sparse, does that still give the Jews the right to steal the land?

    The baby by Halachic law and the secular law is allowed to receive citizenship.
     
    even if it has a black, unconverted Christian mother?

    Really?


    What do you tell Talha and his family? After all you chaps are the ones making all the noise in Virginia, aren’t you?
     
    The people in Virginia have just as much right to march for their rights as anyone else does. And if you can't see that, it's only because you're a Jewish supremacist racial bigot. Not to worry, there are plenty of you lot.

    As for Talha, I've calculated it, and he's exactly one in 13. 7834 million. That kind of cosmopolitan eloquence and humane scholarship is very rare indeed, and he'd definitely get my vote for citizenship.

    As for most of the Muslims and Asians and Hispanics... when they were gracious guests, (and acted like it!) in this country, I feel they were mostly a net boon. Even a couple of the blacks.

    But now they're militant and arrogant and demanding their rights to stomp into our homelands and demand government largess and even their own laws and customs, and if it were up to me....

    ... they'd be right out on their arses. The second they so much as looked funny at any of our laws or customs or especially if they so much as touched one of our citizens. I wouldn't just deport them. I'd make an example of them in one of our less hospitable prisons, where they could surely enjoy some diversity up close and personal, and then I'd deport them. ;)

    they could spread the news to their homies in the barrios and third world, that America is not so welcoming as it once was.

    MAGA!

    No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google.

    This is where Shama loses all credibility (and his “thinking hat” bragging rights). Google is obviously employing racial/minority quotas in their hiring practices which makes it impossible to “hire anyone but the best”. It also goes against his own claim that the company is not hiring the best but simply trying to avoid anti-discrimination lawsuits. He’s talking about this company, by the way:

    Google pays €47m in tax in Ireland on €22bn sales revenue: http://archive.is/rGlMm

    Are they really afraid of the US laws?

    Second, his claim that:

    Google employees are predominantly men (70%) and predominantly white (61%).

    …is demolishing his own argument since Ireland is 95% white.

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    This is where Shama loses all credibility (and his “thinking hat” bragging rights). Google is obviously employing racial/minority quotas in their hiring practices which makes it impossible to “hire anyone but the best”. It also goes against his own claim that the company is not hiring the best but simply trying to avoid anti-discrimination lawsuits.
     
    No; this is where your anonymous courage fails on two counts: (1) It mangles my statement, which said: "No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google". Its a case of a starting negative qualifying another towards the end of the sentence. So your reading comprehension needs improvement. (2) You are not very good at gleaning important information even when provided in plain sight. The relevant portion reads:

    ...while the ethnicity data is strictly for the company’s U.S. employees. Overall, 70% of Google employees are male, and 91% of U.S. employees are either white or Asian
     
    Damore's case arises in the U.S. so stick to facts. Second, you make the elementary error in assuming that I support Google's decision or the fact their Human Resources Dept. has been taken over by SJWs. I do not; but if one is to make a case with fair standing in a court of law, careful knowledge of the data and circumstances is not optional.
    , @Rurik

    Shama loses all credibility
     
    he's just being a provocateur

    he knows Google are agenda-driven SJW but he's in bed with them

    just like with Facebook or the NYT

    so he tries to run cover for their odious culture of hate

  134. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama
    Depositing McDonald's croakings, a worthy substance does not make. Most of his work has been thoroughly discredited by his own colleagues and he is persona non-grata in polite company. I won't go into Avnery's logic which you seek only as a first derivative, wrong in the particular and false in the general.

    Which template do you speak of? Let's dispense with the coquettish "template out there", shall we? In your own words, please. That is what I mean by you being dodgy. You and your ilk ought to avail the anonymity offered by this forum and spill your guts. Reveal to me your understanding of this "template", Once again, don't be shy:

    How do you deal with American Blacks, a great many of whom carry European genes. Do you have a proposal to separate the “Mainly European” ones from others? What do you do about our dear fellow commentator Talha, who is married to a Swedish lady?

    Answer those questions thoughtfully, Georgie, then you might be able to summon a better understanding of genetic identity and its relative importance versus competitiveness and competency. Sammy and his other thoughts shall wait.
     
    So you follow the Zionist State do you me hearties? Good. I'll upgrade your membership and yearly dues.

    [Also, can you please revert back to linked responses? It's damned odd this new habit, worse than the beastly weather]

    Most of his work has been thoroughly discredited by his own colleagues and he is persona non-grata in polite company.

    Polite company? Oh, you must be referring to the kind of company that excludes people like Dorothy Thompson, Joe Sobran, Helen Thomas, and Charles Lindbergh, right? Goy’s that don’t know their proper place.

    Let’s dispense with the coquettish “template out there”, shall we? In your own words, please. That is what I mean by you being dodgy. You and your ilk ought to avail the anonymity offered by this forum and spill your guts.

    Listen, all I can say is that the kind of policies I support are nowhere near as odious as the kind that you support, as a defender of the Zionist state.

    I’ll upgrade your membership and yearly dues.

    No, thanks. I don’t like to fund policies that have led to the death of over a million innocent people and the looting of the US treasury of over $6 trillion, taxpayer money that has been diverted from funding such important programs as health care and education.

    [Also, can you please revert back to linked responses? It's damned odd this new habit, worse than the beastly weather]

    You know what you have to do to make that nuisance go away.

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  135. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rurik

    [Also, can you please revert back to linked responses? It's damned odd this new habit, worse than the beastly weather]
     
    I notice that you didn't 'link' to me, and I suspect it's a glitch with the software

    They do that lest they fall foul of anti-discrimination laws and open themselves to lawsuits.
     
    so you don't believe it's ideological. Would you say the same of the NYT?

    Google employees are predominantly men (70%) and predominantly white (61%).
     
    yes and they're screeching

    that's the whole point, (white) men are better at information tech than black women, but to notice this glaring and obvious fact makes you a vile racist!

    and you'll get fired for simply saying the emperor wears no clothes, because it isn't PC, and Google is very PC, ideologically, not from fear of Jessie


    No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google.
     
    um Sam, looks like your beanie fell off. No doubt the entire human resources division is chock full of 'womyn's studies' and 'black studies' and 'gender studies' graduates. Of whom no one pretends are net positives to the bottom line.

    They mouth the diversity pablum to keep the agitprop crowd at bay.
     
    yea right, that's why they fired the guy, to keep those pesky right winger 'agitprop' guys away

    Overwhelmingly that choice is driven by economics.
     
    bollocks right back at cha

    they segregate based on race, because blacks want to live among blacks, and browns want to live among browns, and yellows and whites and so on. Duh.


    Which hate-filled minorities are you going on about?
     
    the ones that attack your grandma because she's white and try to knock her out. It's even a game they play.

    blacks and some browns mostly. An occasional Muslim might go berserk. An occasional black lesbian, like the one who burned a 12 year old white child to death with an acetylene torch.



    are Jews unique in that Jews and *only* Jews should be allowed to have a country of their own?
     
    is the nation of the Jewish people who hail from all corners of the Earth.
     
    Ok, at least you're honest about it.

    Yes, and in fact, I know one. Do you know the population density of Israel? About 1000/mile^2. The US is 85/mile^2. The capacities of the two are not comparable.
     
    so it all boils down to density? What's the density of the Golan Heights? If it's sparse, does that still give the Jews the right to steal the land?

    The baby by Halachic law and the secular law is allowed to receive citizenship.
     
    even if it has a black, unconverted Christian mother?

    Really?


    What do you tell Talha and his family? After all you chaps are the ones making all the noise in Virginia, aren’t you?
     
    The people in Virginia have just as much right to march for their rights as anyone else does. And if you can't see that, it's only because you're a Jewish supremacist racial bigot. Not to worry, there are plenty of you lot.

    As for Talha, I've calculated it, and he's exactly one in 13. 7834 million. That kind of cosmopolitan eloquence and humane scholarship is very rare indeed, and he'd definitely get my vote for citizenship.

    As for most of the Muslims and Asians and Hispanics... when they were gracious guests, (and acted like it!) in this country, I feel they were mostly a net boon. Even a couple of the blacks.

    But now they're militant and arrogant and demanding their rights to stomp into our homelands and demand government largess and even their own laws and customs, and if it were up to me....

    ... they'd be right out on their arses. The second they so much as looked funny at any of our laws or customs or especially if they so much as touched one of our citizens. I wouldn't just deport them. I'd make an example of them in one of our less hospitable prisons, where they could surely enjoy some diversity up close and personal, and then I'd deport them. ;)

    they could spread the news to their homies in the barrios and third world, that America is not so welcoming as it once was.

    MAGA!

    But now they’re militant and arrogant and demanding their rights to stomp into our homelands and demand government largess and even their own laws and customs, and if it were up to me….

    … they’d be right out on their arses.

    Fifty years ago, old-fashioned liberals used to say, “the only answer to intolerance in intolerance.” But now liberals are themselves so intolerant that they call any assertion of the rights of European peoples “white supremacism” (cf the Atlantic and Slate, here). It’s time, then, to end toleration of liberal intolerance and bigotry. Time, in fact, to tell liberals to GFYs. Meantime, if Western governments fail to pay attention to the rights of the European people, whose rights and prosperity are being destroyed by a mass of immigrant settlers, there is surely going to be big trouble.

    As for Britain’s Islamic no-go areas, what are the armed forces for?

    Certainly deploying aircraft carriers for which the Brits cannot afford the aircraft and which are vulnerable to any country able to afford a few Russian or Chinese anti-ship missiles is idiotic.The Brits should scuttle those ships now (they were originally ordered by Gordon Brown solely as a Scotch make-work project) and redeploy the manpower to a unit specifically trained to quell immigrant riots, eliminate no-go zones, and police the border.

    I support Sam’s population density justification for Israel’s “Jews only” immigration policy, the logic of which is even more applicable to England whence Sam derives, since England has a higher population density than Israel (413 km squared, versus Israel’s 377).

    In fact, England is greatly overpopulated and it is time to reverse the treasonous immigration policies of the the Blair, Brown, Cameron and May governments by offering big incentives for the non-indigenous to leave. A few billion pounds would provide the necessary inducement for millions of the more unproductive non-indigenous residents of Britain to return home. Non-monetary benefits, e.g., subsidized access for children of former long-term UK residents to British universities, could yield both a beneficial impetus to the outflow of unwanted foreign population plus a fund of goodwill for Britain abroad.

    Such ideas run counter to the genocidal intent of mass immigration to the West, but the people have spoken. Seventy percent of Brits now want a hard Brexit because, as David Cameron acknowledged, the yes for Brexit was a vote against immigration.

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    they call any assertion of the rights of European peoples “white supremacism”
     
    the only other people so universally maligned and demonized for simply wanting to persevere are the Palestinians - if they won't agree to stop existing and just die off or go away and be replaced, it's because they're terrorists and full of hate!

    if white folks refuse to hand over everything they've got, including their ancient lands and countries and cultures, down to their school girls - over to the forces of 'diversity', then it's only because they're inveterate racists and full of hate, and yep, want to rule supreme over themselves!!

    how DARE they!

    I don't know of any white people in Virginia or anywhere else who're demanding a return to neocolonialism and the right to rule over non-whites anywhere. (other than the Jewish supremacist zio-neocons)

    what the people in Virginia are asking for is to rule over themselves, not others. They simply want a future.

    but for white people (and only white people) to have the temerity to seek self-determination, in this age of zio-multiculturalism, is akin to bringing back black slavery and building gas chambers.

    just like a Palestinian who protests the destruction of his ancient home and farm lands to make room for more Jewish supremacists, is 'trying to push all the Jews into the sea!'

    they move the goal posts so far off the field, that to simply want to exist = pure hate!

    As for Britain’s Islamic no-go areas, what are the armed forces for?
     
    not just Britain, but Sweden and other nations too. But the bigger question is why are all these Muslims in Britain in the first place?!

    and we all know the answer, don't we? Because Jews want them there. That Swedish politician who said Sweden is not for Swedes, but for the immigrants- would not get close to the levers of power were it not for back-room Jewish, Zionist, central bankster intrigues.

    and if any Swede should object, you can only imagine the local headlines ....

    "Swedish neo-Nazi white supremacist (full of hate!) wants to cut down on immigration!'

    I support Sam’s population density justification for Israel’s “Jews only” immigration policy, the logic of which is even more applicable to England
     
    I think you're overlooking something. England is the ancient land of the English people. Whereas Palestine/Israel is the ancient land of the Palestinian people.

    Unless you suffer under the hysterical idiocy that 'God gave the land to the Jews'. In which case there are no arguments against what 'God' has ordained. And if that's the case then all anyone needs to do is provide some obscure parchment with the words 'God said your land belongs to me'. And thereby claim the right to slaughter the inhabitants and steal all their possessions and lands.

    It sort of creates a rather subjective basis for the Rule of Law, if it can mean anything your God says it means. Yes? No?

    I feel that people should be entitled to have a land and call it their own. Whether they're white, black or anything in between. Especially if your people have been living on that land for centuries. And I suspect that much of the strife and misery in the world is created when people don't respect and honor that simple imperative of people to be allowed to live unmolested in their own lands.

    In the case of Israel, the PTB declared that the Jews of the world could have some of the Palestinian's land. It was unfair, but it was supposed to be the long term answer to the intractable 'Jewish question'. But rather than being the solution, it created massive problems that are festering today, and underlying the very causes for America's (and the rest of the zio-west) serial wars in the Middle East. Because these people will NEVER be satisfied. They really do suffer under the staggering delusion that they're better than everyone else. And that their religion gives them the moral/religious justification to lie, steal, cheat and murder anyone else in the pursuit of their agenda, which is total domination.

    And in the pursuit of that total domination, we see all the problems we're talking about in the Western world, with massive and transformational immigration. With laws that favor the immigrants over the indigenous white folks whose lands are being taken over.

    All the uber-liberalism that pervades and permeates the west is all a direct consequence of these Jewish supremacists owning the media. Duh.

    Of the power of the lobby to create or destroy any politicians it likes or doesn't like.

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/22/16/40AA166100000578-4530332-Ivanka_and_Jared_joined_President_Trump_and_First_Lady_Melania_d-m-13_1495465563435.jpg

    so as you hear the media universally savage the people in Virginia as 'white supremacists', please keep in mind ((who)) owns that media.

    who owns the GOP politicians who're demanding Trump excoriate their voting base as vile, despicable and evil people! "White supremacists" who want to rule themselves!!!

    the evil is beyond comprehension!

    'no more hate!'

    http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/5992cb630dafe827be583168-1190-625/protesters-in-north-carolina-ripped-down-and-kicked-a-confederate-soldier-monument-at-an-anti-racism-rally.jpg
  136. Melendwyr says: • Website
    @utu
    2. Men are, by all accounts and measures, better coders, logicians, and mathematicians; women, far better organisers and intuitive creatures.

    How the IQ-ist deal with man woman difference in that their bell curves are slightly shifted and have differed standard deviations. How do they attribute it to genes? The first 22 chromosomes have statistically the same genes in both sexes. The only difference is on the 23rd. Actually women have more there than men on Y chromosome. Are there intelligence genes on the Y chromosome that account for the extremely low IQ and extremely high IQ in men and the genes that men do not have but women do on the missing part of Y chromosome control activation of the genes responsible the outliers of the bell curve?

    It’s not the genes that are possessed. It’s the genes that are activated that matter. All it takes to turn an embryo from a female to a male is a single activated gene – that then goes on to trigger hundreds of others.

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  137. Sam Shama says:
    @Anonymous

    No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google.
     
    This is where Shama loses all credibility (and his "thinking hat" bragging rights). Google is obviously employing racial/minority quotas in their hiring practices which makes it impossible to "hire anyone but the best". It also goes against his own claim that the company is not hiring the best but simply trying to avoid anti-discrimination lawsuits. He's talking about this company, by the way:

    Google pays €47m in tax in Ireland on €22bn sales revenue: http://archive.is/rGlMm

    Are they really afraid of the US laws?

    Second, his claim that:

    Google employees are predominantly men (70%) and predominantly white (61%).
     
    ...is demolishing his own argument since Ireland is 95% white.

    This is where Shama loses all credibility (and his “thinking hat” bragging rights). Google is obviously employing racial/minority quotas in their hiring practices which makes it impossible to “hire anyone but the best”. It also goes against his own claim that the company is not hiring the best but simply trying to avoid anti-discrimination lawsuits.

    No; this is where your anonymous courage fails on two counts: (1) It mangles my statement, which said: No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google”. Its a case of a starting negative qualifying another towards the end of the sentence. So your reading comprehension needs improvement. (2) You are not very good at gleaning important information even when provided in plain sight. The relevant portion reads:

    …while the ethnicity data is strictly for the company’s U.S. employees. Overall, 70% of Google employees are male, and 91% of U.S. employees are either white or Asian

    Damore’s case arises in the U.S. so stick to facts. Second, you make the elementary error in assuming that I support Google’s decision or the fact their Human Resources Dept. has been taken over by SJWs. I do not; but if one is to make a case with fair standing in a court of law, careful knowledge of the data and circumstances is not optional.

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  138. Rurik says:
    @Anonymous

    No one in possession of their thinking hats would believe that a technology company would hire anyone but the best, least of all Google.
     
    This is where Shama loses all credibility (and his "thinking hat" bragging rights). Google is obviously employing racial/minority quotas in their hiring practices which makes it impossible to "hire anyone but the best". It also goes against his own claim that the company is not hiring the best but simply trying to avoid anti-discrimination lawsuits. He's talking about this company, by the way:

    Google pays €47m in tax in Ireland on €22bn sales revenue: http://archive.is/rGlMm

    Are they really afraid of the US laws?

    Second, his claim that:

    Google employees are predominantly men (70%) and predominantly white (61%).
     
    ...is demolishing his own argument since Ireland is 95% white.

    Shama loses all credibility

    he’s just being a provocateur

    he knows Google are agenda-driven SJW but he’s in bed with them

    just like with Facebook or the NYT

    so he tries to run cover for their odious culture of hate

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  139. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy

    but I choose remembrance through a Constable vista of vivid meadows, of a people gentled by them.
     
    And when the Muslim settlers have conquered by the womb not the sword, they'll probably have the sheep, the cattle the horses and the people painted out of
    every Constables vista
    , that's if they don't simply burn the canvases.

    Hello CanSpeccy

    I was totally unaware of the aniconism proscription in Islam. I have said this before and reiterate here, why I fear Islam. It’s driven by two things: (a) their far superior fertility at least at this point in history and (2) Muslims possess today, far greater allure, a feeling of instant fraternity offered to youth in the U.K. and elsewhere in Europe; something clearly lacking in the myriads of Christian faith. Muslims in general are a dedicated, moral lot, often possessing qualities I admire [we ignore the criminals as one would for all faiths]; yet what makes that faith unacceptable to me are the two fundamental contradictions it carries against the core values of Western culture: freedom of association and a rejection of the voluntary transactions approach to economic life. There are many other incompatibilities, which I needn’t go into here. In reality, and if we are to seriously counter that threat, youth must be offered a better alternative, from Christian faith leaders [Jews do not proselytise, as I'm sure you know or I'd have offered my services :-) ], Elders of each community and most of all, parents. Its not as tall a task as some might think. [The Jewish model of relaxing on the Sabbath around family without iPhones is a great start]. All of that has to be compulsorily supplemented by a strict and sensible immigration policy. Certainly in the U.K, which as you say has reached critical population density.

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    All of that has to be compulsorily supplemented by a strict and sensible immigration policy.
     
    With which I agree provided by "strict and sensible" one means no more than a couple of thousand a year, which was the basis of America's immigration policy with respect to Canada in the 1980's when I was short-listed for a Chair at the University of Maine. Then, for me to obtain an visa, it would have been necessary for the University to convince Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, that there was no American qualified for the job, i.e., a condition that could obviously not be met.

    As noted in my response to Rurik, I am sure that Britain will not be saved by any cultural or religious iniative, however sensible. Moreover, I don't believe that culture, however admirable, and I do admire many aspects of it, is what maintains the coherence of the Jewish community and its determination to survive. Mostly, it seems to be paranoia driven by the Holocaust meme and constant anti-Semitism panics, many, perhaps most, on fake pretexts.

    It is such cohesion among the common people that the Treason Party across the West so forcefully suppresses by every means of psychological warfare deployed by the media, Hollywood, the state-controlled education system. We are in a civil war, and those are the enemies that have to be destroyed.

  140. Rurik says:
    @CanSpeccy

    But now they’re militant and arrogant and demanding their rights to stomp into our homelands and demand government largess and even their own laws and customs, and if it were up to me….

    … they’d be right out on their arses.
     

    Fifty years ago, old-fashioned liberals used to say, "the only answer to intolerance in intolerance." But now liberals are themselves so intolerant that they call any assertion of the rights of European peoples "white supremacism" (cf the Atlantic and Slate, here). It's time, then, to end toleration of liberal intolerance and bigotry. Time, in fact, to tell liberals to GFYs. Meantime, if Western governments fail to pay attention to the rights of the European people, whose rights and prosperity are being destroyed by a mass of immigrant settlers, there is surely going to be big trouble.

    As for Britain's Islamic no-go areas, what are the armed forces for?

    Certainly deploying aircraft carriers for which the Brits cannot afford the aircraft and which are vulnerable to any country able to afford a few Russian or Chinese anti-ship missiles is idiotic.The Brits should scuttle those ships now (they were originally ordered by Gordon Brown solely as a Scotch make-work project) and redeploy the manpower to a unit specifically trained to quell immigrant riots, eliminate no-go zones, and police the border.

    I support Sam's population density justification for Israel's "Jews only" immigration policy, the logic of which is even more applicable to England whence Sam derives, since England has a higher population density than Israel (413 km squared, versus Israel's 377).

    In fact, England is greatly overpopulated and it is time to reverse the treasonous immigration policies of the the Blair, Brown, Cameron and May governments by offering big incentives for the non-indigenous to leave. A few billion pounds would provide the necessary inducement for millions of the more unproductive non-indigenous residents of Britain to return home. Non-monetary benefits, e.g., subsidized access for children of former long-term UK residents to British universities, could yield both a beneficial impetus to the outflow of unwanted foreign population plus a fund of goodwill for Britain abroad.

    Such ideas run counter to the genocidal intent of mass immigration to the West, but the people have spoken. Seventy percent of Brits now want a hard Brexit because, as David Cameron acknowledged, the yes for Brexit was a vote against immigration.

    they call any assertion of the rights of European peoples “white supremacism”

    the only other people so universally maligned and demonized for simply wanting to persevere are the Palestinians – if they won’t agree to stop existing and just die off or go away and be replaced, it’s because they’re terrorists and full of hate!

    if white folks refuse to hand over everything they’ve got, including their ancient lands and countries and cultures, down to their school girls – over to the forces of ‘diversity’, then it’s only because they’re inveterate racists and full of hate, and yep, want to rule supreme over themselves!!

    how DARE they!

    I don’t know of any white people in Virginia or anywhere else who’re demanding a return to neocolonialism and the right to rule over non-whites anywhere. (other than the Jewish supremacist zio-neocons)

    what the people in Virginia are asking for is to rule over themselves, not others. They simply want a future.

    but for white people (and only white people) to have the temerity to seek self-determination, in this age of zio-multiculturalism, is akin to bringing back black slavery and building gas chambers.

    just like a Palestinian who protests the destruction of his ancient home and farm lands to make room for more Jewish supremacists, is ‘trying to push all the Jews into the sea!’

    they move the goal posts so far off the field, that to simply want to exist = pure hate!

    As for Britain’s Islamic no-go areas, what are the armed forces for?

    not just Britain, but Sweden and other nations too. But the bigger question is why are all these Muslims in Britain in the first place?!

    and we all know the answer, don’t we? Because Jews want them there. That Swedish politician who said Sweden is not for Swedes, but for the immigrants- would not get close to the levers of power were it not for back-room Jewish, Zionist, central bankster intrigues.

    and if any Swede should object, you can only imagine the local headlines ….

    “Swedish neo-Nazi white supremacist (full of hate!) wants to cut down on immigration!’

    I support Sam’s population density justification for Israel’s “Jews only” immigration policy, the logic of which is even more applicable to England

    I think you’re overlooking something. England is the ancient land of the English people. Whereas Palestine/Israel is the ancient land of the Palestinian people.

    Unless you suffer under the hysterical idiocy that ‘God gave the land to the Jews’. In which case there are no arguments against what ‘God’ has ordained. And if that’s the case then all anyone needs to do is provide some obscure parchment with the words ‘God said your land belongs to me’. And thereby claim the right to slaughter the inhabitants and steal all their possessions and lands.

    It sort of creates a rather subjective basis for the Rule of Law, if it can mean anything your God says it means. Yes? No?

    I feel that people should be entitled to have a land and call it their own. Whether they’re white, black or anything in between. Especially if your people have been living on that land for centuries. And I suspect that much of the strife and misery in the world is created when people don’t respect and honor that simple imperative of people to be allowed to live unmolested in their own lands.

    In the case of Israel, the PTB declared that the Jews of the world could have some of the Palestinian’s land. It was unfair, but it was supposed to be the long term answer to the intractable ‘Jewish question’. But rather than being the solution, it created massive problems that are festering today, and underlying the very causes for America’s (and the rest of the zio-west) serial wars in the Middle East. Because these people will NEVER be satisfied. They really do suffer under the staggering delusion that they’re better than everyone else. And that their religion gives them the moral/religious justification to lie, steal, cheat and murder anyone else in the pursuit of their agenda, which is total domination.

    And in the pursuit of that total domination, we see all the problems we’re talking about in the Western world, with massive and transformational immigration. With laws that favor the immigrants over the indigenous white folks whose lands are being taken over.

    All the uber-liberalism that pervades and permeates the west is all a direct consequence of these Jewish supremacists owning the media. Duh.

    Of the power of the lobby to create or destroy any politicians it likes or doesn’t like.

    so as you hear the media universally savage the people in Virginia as ‘white supremacists’, please keep in mind ((who)) owns that media.

    who owns the GOP politicians who’re demanding Trump excoriate their voting base as vile, despicable and evil people! “White supremacists” who want to rule themselves!!!

    the evil is beyond comprehension!

    ‘no more hate!’

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    Agree, mostly.

    I think you’re overlooking something. England is the ancient land of the English people. Whereas Palestine/Israel is the ancient land of the Palestinian people.
     
    That's true. But America is the ancient land of the Amerindians. Canada is the ancient ... etc.

    Stealing other people's land is what people have been doing since time immemorial. I agree it should not be condoned. But in Palestine, it's game over — barring some unpredictable catastrophe for the Israelis. That's why there can be no half measures in dealing with the immigrant influx to my homeland. If the Brits don't kick the bastards out now, they'll lose their country.

    And I would say the chance of the Brits losing their country is far better than even, since they have an entrenched treason class in power. These are the people who, since the beginning of the industrial revolution despised the common people of England a country of:


    Two nations; between whom there is no intercourse and no sympathy; who are as ignorant of each other's habits, thoughts, and feelings, as if they were dwellers in different zones, or inhabitants of different planets; who are formed by a different breeding, are fed by a different food, are ordered by different manners, and are not governed by the same laws: the rich and the poor.
     
    Sam Sharma talks of the youth of England being "offered a better alternative, from Christian faith leaders". LOL. From an established church run by Archbishop Justin Welby, a man with the classic Eton and Oxford Treason Party education? (It was at Eton in the 30's that the debating society passed the motion "that the faces of the poor should be ground" with the amendment "that the faces of the poor should be underground.") And if that were not enough, the Arch is of German Jewish extraction, not a heritage liable to make him wildly popular with the mass of Daily Mail reading Britishers, and a former oil company money man experienced in the Nigerian world of oil, money and politics, who must surely be an agent of the British intelligence services.

    No, the only thing that might save the British people will be something with more than a passing resemblance to Nazism. Trump grasped that, which is why his campaign consisted in a huge number of mass rallies at which he addressed the crowd in short sentences with words of one syllable. It is also why Trump is the subject of all the hatred America's Treason Party can muster.

    Thus far, however, all populist leaders to emerge in Britain have been, pretty certainly, agents of the Treason Party, scripted to implode around election times: Nick Griffin of the British Nationalist Party, Nigel Farage of UKIP, and now Tommy Robinson, a high IQ psycho formerly known by the upper crust name of Yaxley-Lem0n.

    , @anarchyst
    To my Jewish friends and Christian zionists that insist that Israel is Jewish land, given to them by God, I reply: "God is not a real estate agent"...
    Shuts 'em up every time....
  141. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rurik

    they call any assertion of the rights of European peoples “white supremacism”
     
    the only other people so universally maligned and demonized for simply wanting to persevere are the Palestinians - if they won't agree to stop existing and just die off or go away and be replaced, it's because they're terrorists and full of hate!

    if white folks refuse to hand over everything they've got, including their ancient lands and countries and cultures, down to their school girls - over to the forces of 'diversity', then it's only because they're inveterate racists and full of hate, and yep, want to rule supreme over themselves!!

    how DARE they!

    I don't know of any white people in Virginia or anywhere else who're demanding a return to neocolonialism and the right to rule over non-whites anywhere. (other than the Jewish supremacist zio-neocons)

    what the people in Virginia are asking for is to rule over themselves, not others. They simply want a future.

    but for white people (and only white people) to have the temerity to seek self-determination, in this age of zio-multiculturalism, is akin to bringing back black slavery and building gas chambers.

    just like a Palestinian who protests the destruction of his ancient home and farm lands to make room for more Jewish supremacists, is 'trying to push all the Jews into the sea!'

    they move the goal posts so far off the field, that to simply want to exist = pure hate!

    As for Britain’s Islamic no-go areas, what are the armed forces for?
     
    not just Britain, but Sweden and other nations too. But the bigger question is why are all these Muslims in Britain in the first place?!

    and we all know the answer, don't we? Because Jews want them there. That Swedish politician who said Sweden is not for Swedes, but for the immigrants- would not get close to the levers of power were it not for back-room Jewish, Zionist, central bankster intrigues.

    and if any Swede should object, you can only imagine the local headlines ....

    "Swedish neo-Nazi white supremacist (full of hate!) wants to cut down on immigration!'

    I support Sam’s population density justification for Israel’s “Jews only” immigration policy, the logic of which is even more applicable to England
     
    I think you're overlooking something. England is the ancient land of the English people. Whereas Palestine/Israel is the ancient land of the Palestinian people.

    Unless you suffer under the hysterical idiocy that 'God gave the land to the Jews'. In which case there are no arguments against what 'God' has ordained. And if that's the case then all anyone needs to do is provide some obscure parchment with the words 'God said your land belongs to me'. And thereby claim the right to slaughter the inhabitants and steal all their possessions and lands.

    It sort of creates a rather subjective basis for the Rule of Law, if it can mean anything your God says it means. Yes? No?

    I feel that people should be entitled to have a land and call it their own. Whether they're white, black or anything in between. Especially if your people have been living on that land for centuries. And I suspect that much of the strife and misery in the world is created when people don't respect and honor that simple imperative of people to be allowed to live unmolested in their own lands.

    In the case of Israel, the PTB declared that the Jews of the world could have some of the Palestinian's land. It was unfair, but it was supposed to be the long term answer to the intractable 'Jewish question'. But rather than being the solution, it created massive problems that are festering today, and underlying the very causes for America's (and the rest of the zio-west) serial wars in the Middle East. Because these people will NEVER be satisfied. They really do suffer under the staggering delusion that they're better than everyone else. And that their religion gives them the moral/religious justification to lie, steal, cheat and murder anyone else in the pursuit of their agenda, which is total domination.

    And in the pursuit of that total domination, we see all the problems we're talking about in the Western world, with massive and transformational immigration. With laws that favor the immigrants over the indigenous white folks whose lands are being taken over.

    All the uber-liberalism that pervades and permeates the west is all a direct consequence of these Jewish supremacists owning the media. Duh.

    Of the power of the lobby to create or destroy any politicians it likes or doesn't like.

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/22/16/40AA166100000578-4530332-Ivanka_and_Jared_joined_President_Trump_and_First_Lady_Melania_d-m-13_1495465563435.jpg

    so as you hear the media universally savage the people in Virginia as 'white supremacists', please keep in mind ((who)) owns that media.

    who owns the GOP politicians who're demanding Trump excoriate their voting base as vile, despicable and evil people! "White supremacists" who want to rule themselves!!!

    the evil is beyond comprehension!

    'no more hate!'

    http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/5992cb630dafe827be583168-1190-625/protesters-in-north-carolina-ripped-down-and-kicked-a-confederate-soldier-monument-at-an-anti-racism-rally.jpg

    Agree, mostly.

    I think you’re overlooking something. England is the ancient land of the English people. Whereas Palestine/Israel is the ancient land of the Palestinian people.

    That’s true. But America is the ancient land of the Amerindians. Canada is the ancient … etc.

    Stealing other people’s land is what people have been doing since time immemorial. I agree it should not be condoned. But in Palestine, it’s game over — barring some unpredictable catastrophe for the Israelis. That’s why there can be no half measures in dealing with the immigrant influx to my homeland. If the Brits don’t kick the bastards out now, they’ll lose their country.

    And I would say the chance of the Brits losing their country is far better than even, since they have an entrenched treason class in power. These are the people who, since the beginning of the industrial revolution despised the common people of England a country of:

    Two nations; between whom there is no intercourse and no sympathy; who are as ignorant of each other’s habits, thoughts, and feelings, as if they were dwellers in different zones, or inhabitants of different planets; who are formed by a different breeding, are fed by a different food, are ordered by different manners, and are not governed by the same laws: the rich and the poor.

    Sam Sharma talks of the youth of England being “offered a better alternative, from Christian faith leaders”. LOL. From an established church run by Archbishop Justin Welby, a man with the classic Eton and Oxford Treason Party education? (It was at Eton in the 30′s that the debating society passed the motion “that the faces of the poor should be ground” with the amendment “that the faces of the poor should be underground.”) And if that were not enough, the Arch is of German Jewish extraction, not a heritage liable to make him wildly popular with the mass of Daily Mail reading Britishers, and a former oil company money man experienced in the Nigerian world of oil, money and politics, who must surely be an agent of the British intelligence services.

    No, the only thing that might save the British people will be something with more than a passing resemblance to Nazism. Trump grasped that, which is why his campaign consisted in a huge number of mass rallies at which he addressed the crowd in short sentences with words of one syllable. It is also why Trump is the subject of all the hatred America’s Treason Party can muster.

    Thus far, however, all populist leaders to emerge in Britain have been, pretty certainly, agents of the Treason Party, scripted to implode around election times: Nick Griffin of the British Nationalist Party, Nigel Farage of UKIP, and now Tommy Robinson, a high IQ psycho formerly known by the upper crust name of Yaxley-Lem0n.

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    That’s true. But America is the ancient land of the Amerindians. Canada is the ancient … etc.

    Stealing other people’s land is what people have been doing since time immemorial
     
    all true

    but then something was supposed to have been decided once and for all at Nuremburg, when the horrified world decided to codify into law certain principles, like a repudiation of genocide for instance, and a respect for the Rule of Law, and International Law, and human rights, and so on.

    Consider, if we humans really didn't learn anything from WWII, and 'might' really does = 'right',

    and it's OK for the Jews to murder and steal the land of others....

    well then guess what else that means?

    it means that the Nazis hand's were clean. And that they did nothing wrong when they ethnically cleansed the Jews out, and murdered some of them in the process.

    If,
    what the Zionists have been, and are doing in Palestine is OK = then everything the Nazi did was certainly OK, because for one thing, the Nazis were murdering and expelling foreigners (who were graciously allowed to settle in Germany in the first place) out of their own lands, whereas the Jews are murdering and expelling Palestinians out of the Palestinian's own lands.

    So if it's OK for the Zionists to murder Palestinians and steal their land, then by what metric has the world been barraged with all this sanctimonious hysteria about evil 'Nazis' all this time?

    Why is Germany harangued and demonized, even today's generation for something they had nothing to do with, when the people demonizing them are engaging in the very same behavior themselves? Only worse.

    And yet people don't see this raging double standard, and mock every Jew anywhere who cries crocodile tears over the Holocaust, as he shoots another Palestinian child from a rooftop.

    I for one find the self-righteous sanctimony intolerable, and enjoy pointing it out. The Jews have used the Holocaust to blackmail the world into being actual guilty participants to a genocidal holocaust of the Palestinians, and they are certainly behind the wars in the Middle East today, and yet they still put on airs of victimhood, and our politicians grovel at their feet. It's all so disgusting it makes me sick to my stomach.

    But in Palestine, it’s game over — barring some unpredictable catastrophe for the Israelis
     
    that's it?

    you're a thoughtful and educated and intelligent fellow, and that's all you've got to offer vis-a-vis the troubles over there? What about Gaza? Should they just commit mass-suicide and be done with it?

    What about the occupied territories? Should the world continue to look the other way, as these horribly persecuted people are driven into the dirt?

    Should the American people continue to be taxed to the tune of billions to continue funding genocide and murder?

    Should we continue to send specially built Caterpillar bulldozers that are used even for crushing and murdering idealistic young American girls?

    We all know that the politicians are craven worms who serve at the pleasure of snakes like Sheldon Adelson, but certainly 'we the people' can point out the devil's lies at places like Unz.. elsewhere.

    Personally I'd like to see a one state solution imposed on Israel, with defined borders and equal rights for all the inhabitants of that land. IOW exactly what the Jews of the world demanded for S. Africa, or Rhodesia [now Zimbabwe]

    If it's good enough for the goyim, it should be good enough for 'the shinning light unto the voirld', no?


    If the Brits don’t kick the bastards out now, they’ll lose their country.
     
    when you say bastards, I hope you're referring to every single politician and media personality and all the rest who were and still are against Brexit. If Tony Blair were found dangling from a lamppost tomorrow morning, with a sign reading 'traitor' around his neck, I'd have more respect for the British people than I've ever been able to muster in my entire life.

    These are the people who, since the beginning of the industrial revolution despised the common people of England
     
    more to the point, they're Jews

    so you have any doubt that Rothschild is more powerful than any Prime Minister?

    So they find these traitorous scum like Tony Blair- and that Swedish guy, and they elevate them to positions of power, so that they can have a goyim take all the blame for destroying England- and Sweden respectively.

    'it's good for the Jews'

    No, the only thing that might save the British people will be something with more than a passing resemblance to Nazism
     
    well, I'm not sure the Nazis even had a passing resemblance to 'Nazism'; as it's mashed in our collective faces day in, day out. The 'Nazis' have replaced the devil in today's popular conscience for the ultimate evil. And one thing I can assure you, is that if a politician or leader were to ever actually offer the British people some slight hope of holding on to what's left of their island nation, then he or she will absolutely be subject to a chorus of screeching Nazi!! the likes of which it's impossible to overstate. Trump is so marinated in NYC Jewish culture that he's best buddies with Bibi, and his daughter and grandchildren are Jews. And yet they screech "Nazi"!! at Trump relentlessly. Putin is a Russian nationalist, who surely hates WWII Nazis as only a Russian nationalist can, and yet they screech "Nazi' at him, just because he stopped going along with their plan to destroy seven countries in the middle east. For that, now he too is a 'Nazi! Putin = Adolf Hitler!!!

    (it's really quite funny, were it not so tragic)

    Just imagine what they'd say if an actual British patriot ever got close to the levers of power in England. There would be screeching hysterics like those sound cannons they use to survey for oil in the oceans, and which blows marine life's ear drums out from miles away.

    Just imagining the psychotic hysteria and eardrum-shattering cacophony, it might be easier just to say goodbye to England... her history (that will all be rewritten to demonize all of England and the Brits as liars and thieves and, of course 'racists!), and goodbye to the British race, who'll be blended away for all time, even occasionally with consent.

    http://static.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Shoe-bomber-Richard-Reid-pictured-in-jail-e1422386439223.jpg

    at least you won't be racists
  142. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Sam Shama
    Hello CanSpeccy

    I was totally unaware of the aniconism proscription in Islam. I have said this before and reiterate here, why I fear Islam. It's driven by two things: (a) their far superior fertility at least at this point in history and (2) Muslims possess today, far greater allure, a feeling of instant fraternity offered to youth in the U.K. and elsewhere in Europe; something clearly lacking in the myriads of Christian faith. Muslims in general are a dedicated, moral lot, often possessing qualities I admire [we ignore the criminals as one would for all faiths]; yet what makes that faith unacceptable to me are the two fundamental contradictions it carries against the core values of Western culture: freedom of association and a rejection of the voluntary transactions approach to economic life. There are many other incompatibilities, which I needn't go into here. In reality, and if we are to seriously counter that threat, youth must be offered a better alternative, from Christian faith leaders [Jews do not proselytise, as I'm sure you know or I'd have offered my services :-) ], Elders of each community and most of all, parents. Its not as tall a task as some might think. [The Jewish model of relaxing on the Sabbath around family without iPhones is a great start]. All of that has to be compulsorily supplemented by a strict and sensible immigration policy. Certainly in the U.K, which as you say has reached critical population density.

    All of that has to be compulsorily supplemented by a strict and sensible immigration policy.

    With which I agree provided by “strict and sensible” one means no more than a couple of thousand a year, which was the basis of America’s immigration policy with respect to Canada in the 1980′s when I was short-listed for a Chair at the University of Maine. Then, for me to obtain an visa, it would have been necessary for the University to convince Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, that there was no American qualified for the job, i.e., a condition that could obviously not be met.

    As noted in my response to Rurik, I am sure that Britain will not be saved by any cultural or religious iniative, however sensible. Moreover, I don’t believe that culture, however admirable, and I do admire many aspects of it, is what maintains the coherence of the Jewish community and its determination to survive. Mostly, it seems to be paranoia driven by the Holocaust meme and constant anti-Semitism panics, many, perhaps most, on fake pretexts.

    It is such cohesion among the common people that the Treason Party across the West so forcefully suppresses by every means of psychological warfare deployed by the media, Hollywood, the state-controlled education system. We are in a civil war, and those are the enemies that have to be destroyed.

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  143. anarchyst says:
    @Rurik

    they call any assertion of the rights of European peoples “white supremacism”
     
    the only other people so universally maligned and demonized for simply wanting to persevere are the Palestinians - if they won't agree to stop existing and just die off or go away and be replaced, it's because they're terrorists and full of hate!

    if white folks refuse to hand over everything they've got, including their ancient lands and countries and cultures, down to their school girls - over to the forces of 'diversity', then it's only because they're inveterate racists and full of hate, and yep, want to rule supreme over themselves!!

    how DARE they!

    I don't know of any white people in Virginia or anywhere else who're demanding a return to neocolonialism and the right to rule over non-whites anywhere. (other than the Jewish supremacist zio-neocons)

    what the people in Virginia are asking for is to rule over themselves, not others. They simply want a future.

    but for white people (and only white people) to have the temerity to seek self-determination, in this age of zio-multiculturalism, is akin to bringing back black slavery and building gas chambers.

    just like a Palestinian who protests the destruction of his ancient home and farm lands to make room for more Jewish supremacists, is 'trying to push all the Jews into the sea!'

    they move the goal posts so far off the field, that to simply want to exist = pure hate!

    As for Britain’s Islamic no-go areas, what are the armed forces for?
     
    not just Britain, but Sweden and other nations too. But the bigger question is why are all these Muslims in Britain in the first place?!

    and we all know the answer, don't we? Because Jews want them there. That Swedish politician who said Sweden is not for Swedes, but for the immigrants- would not get close to the levers of power were it not for back-room Jewish, Zionist, central bankster intrigues.

    and if any Swede should object, you can only imagine the local headlines ....

    "Swedish neo-Nazi white supremacist (full of hate!) wants to cut down on immigration!'

    I support Sam’s population density justification for Israel’s “Jews only” immigration policy, the logic of which is even more applicable to England
     
    I think you're overlooking something. England is the ancient land of the English people. Whereas Palestine/Israel is the ancient land of the Palestinian people.

    Unless you suffer under the hysterical idiocy that 'God gave the land to the Jews'. In which case there are no arguments against what 'God' has ordained. And if that's the case then all anyone needs to do is provide some obscure parchment with the words 'God said your land belongs to me'. And thereby claim the right to slaughter the inhabitants and steal all their possessions and lands.

    It sort of creates a rather subjective basis for the Rule of Law, if it can mean anything your God says it means. Yes? No?

    I feel that people should be entitled to have a land and call it their own. Whether they're white, black or anything in between. Especially if your people have been living on that land for centuries. And I suspect that much of the strife and misery in the world is created when people don't respect and honor that simple imperative of people to be allowed to live unmolested in their own lands.

    In the case of Israel, the PTB declared that the Jews of the world could have some of the Palestinian's land. It was unfair, but it was supposed to be the long term answer to the intractable 'Jewish question'. But rather than being the solution, it created massive problems that are festering today, and underlying the very causes for America's (and the rest of the zio-west) serial wars in the Middle East. Because these people will NEVER be satisfied. They really do suffer under the staggering delusion that they're better than everyone else. And that their religion gives them the moral/religious justification to lie, steal, cheat and murder anyone else in the pursuit of their agenda, which is total domination.

    And in the pursuit of that total domination, we see all the problems we're talking about in the Western world, with massive and transformational immigration. With laws that favor the immigrants over the indigenous white folks whose lands are being taken over.

    All the uber-liberalism that pervades and permeates the west is all a direct consequence of these Jewish supremacists owning the media. Duh.

    Of the power of the lobby to create or destroy any politicians it likes or doesn't like.

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/22/16/40AA166100000578-4530332-Ivanka_and_Jared_joined_President_Trump_and_First_Lady_Melania_d-m-13_1495465563435.jpg

    so as you hear the media universally savage the people in Virginia as 'white supremacists', please keep in mind ((who)) owns that media.

    who owns the GOP politicians who're demanding Trump excoriate their voting base as vile, despicable and evil people! "White supremacists" who want to rule themselves!!!

    the evil is beyond comprehension!

    'no more hate!'

    http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/5992cb630dafe827be583168-1190-625/protesters-in-north-carolina-ripped-down-and-kicked-a-confederate-soldier-monument-at-an-anti-racism-rally.jpg

    To my Jewish friends and Christian zionists that insist that Israel is Jewish land, given to them by God, I reply: “God is not a real estate agent”…
    Shuts ‘em up every time….

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    That's a function of the inarticulateness of those to whom you've made that half-baked remark. G'd is not the real-estate agent; he is the owner of all and gives a people what He feels they deserve.
  144. Sam Shama says:
    @anarchyst
    To my Jewish friends and Christian zionists that insist that Israel is Jewish land, given to them by God, I reply: "God is not a real estate agent"...
    Shuts 'em up every time....

    That’s a function of the inarticulateness of those to whom you’ve made that half-baked remark. G’d is not the real-estate agent; he is the owner of all and gives a people what He feels they deserve.

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    he is the owner of all and gives a people what He feels they deserve.
     
    http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2015-02-02-HuffPostHolocaust2.jpg
    , @CanSpeccy

    G’d is not the real-estate agent; he is the owner of all and gives a people what He feels they deserve.
     
    Sam,

    That old scoundrel Yahweh did not give Jews the Promised land, he told them to go steal it and kill every one of the original inhabitants:


    When the Lord your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you…you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them…. For they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods. Then the anger of the Lord will be kindled against you and He will quickly destroy you. But thus you shall do to them: You shall tear down their altars, and smash their sacred pillars, and hew down their Asherim, and burn their graven images with fire. (Deut. 7:1-5)
     

    Only in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes. But you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the Lord your God has commanded you, so that they may not teach you to do according to all their detestable things which they have done for their gods, so that you would sin against the Lord your God. (Deut. 20.16-18)
     

    Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” (1 Sam 15:2-3)
     
    Perhaps it is because Jews wish to keep an understanding of how evolution works to themselves that the Unz Review publishes Fred Reed's nonsense articles on the subject, while refusing to publish, or even to acknowledge receipt of, a rebuttal.
  145. Rurik says:
    @CanSpeccy
    Agree, mostly.

    I think you’re overlooking something. England is the ancient land of the English people. Whereas Palestine/Israel is the ancient land of the Palestinian people.
     
    That's true. But America is the ancient land of the Amerindians. Canada is the ancient ... etc.

    Stealing other people's land is what people have been doing since time immemorial. I agree it should not be condoned. But in Palestine, it's game over — barring some unpredictable catastrophe for the Israelis. That's why there can be no half measures in dealing with the immigrant influx to my homeland. If the Brits don't kick the bastards out now, they'll lose their country.

    And I would say the chance of the Brits losing their country is far better than even, since they have an entrenched treason class in power. These are the people who, since the beginning of the industrial revolution despised the common people of England a country of:


    Two nations; between whom there is no intercourse and no sympathy; who are as ignorant of each other's habits, thoughts, and feelings, as if they were dwellers in different zones, or inhabitants of different planets; who are formed by a different breeding, are fed by a different food, are ordered by different manners, and are not governed by the same laws: the rich and the poor.
     
    Sam Sharma talks of the youth of England being "offered a better alternative, from Christian faith leaders". LOL. From an established church run by Archbishop Justin Welby, a man with the classic Eton and Oxford Treason Party education? (It was at Eton in the 30's that the debating society passed the motion "that the faces of the poor should be ground" with the amendment "that the faces of the poor should be underground.") And if that were not enough, the Arch is of German Jewish extraction, not a heritage liable to make him wildly popular with the mass of Daily Mail reading Britishers, and a former oil company money man experienced in the Nigerian world of oil, money and politics, who must surely be an agent of the British intelligence services.

    No, the only thing that might save the British people will be something with more than a passing resemblance to Nazism. Trump grasped that, which is why his campaign consisted in a huge number of mass rallies at which he addressed the crowd in short sentences with words of one syllable. It is also why Trump is the subject of all the hatred America's Treason Party can muster.

    Thus far, however, all populist leaders to emerge in Britain have been, pretty certainly, agents of the Treason Party, scripted to implode around election times: Nick Griffin of the British Nationalist Party, Nigel Farage of UKIP, and now Tommy Robinson, a high IQ psycho formerly known by the upper crust name of Yaxley-Lem0n.

    That’s true. But America is the ancient land of the Amerindians. Canada is the ancient … etc.

    Stealing other people’s land is what people have been doing since time immemorial

    all true

    but then something was supposed to have been decided once and for all at Nuremburg, when the horrified world decided to codify into law certain principles, like a repudiation of genocide for instance, and a respect for the Rule of Law, and International Law, and human rights, and so on.

    Consider, if we humans really didn’t learn anything from WWII, and ‘might’ really does = ‘right’,

    and it’s OK for the Jews to murder and steal the land of others….

    well then guess what else that means?

    it means that the Nazis hand’s were clean. And that they did nothing wrong when they ethnically cleansed the Jews out, and murdered some of them in the process.

    If,
    what the Zionists have been, and are doing in Palestine is OK = then everything the Nazi did was certainly OK, because for one thing, the Nazis were murdering and expelling foreigners (who were graciously allowed to settle in Germany in the first place) out of their own lands, whereas the Jews are murdering and expelling Palestinians out of the Palestinian’s own lands.

    So if it’s OK for the Zionists to murder Palestinians and steal their land, then by what metric has the world been barraged with all this sanctimonious hysteria about evil ‘Nazis’ all this time?

    Why is Germany harangued and demonized, even today’s generation for something they had nothing to do with, when the people demonizing them are engaging in the very same behavior themselves? Only worse.

    And yet people don’t see this raging double standard, and mock every Jew anywhere who cries crocodile tears over the Holocaust, as he shoots another Palestinian child from a rooftop.

    I for one find the self-righteous sanctimony intolerable, and enjoy pointing it out. The Jews have used the Holocaust to blackmail the world into being actual guilty participants to a genocidal holocaust of the Palestinians, and they are certainly behind the wars in the Middle East today, and yet they still put on airs of victimhood, and our politicians grovel at their feet. It’s all so disgusting it makes me sick to my stomach.

    But in Palestine, it’s game over — barring some unpredictable catastrophe for the Israelis

    that’s it?

    you’re a thoughtful and educated and intelligent fellow, and that’s all you’ve got to offer vis-a-vis the troubles over there? What about Gaza? Should they just commit mass-suicide and be done with it?

    What about the occupied territories? Should the world continue to look the other way, as these horribly persecuted people are driven into the dirt?

    Should the American people continue to be taxed to the tune of billions to continue funding genocide and murder?

    Should we continue to send specially built Caterpillar bulldozers that are used even for crushing and murdering idealistic young American girls?

    We all know that the politicians are craven worms who serve at the pleasure of snakes like Sheldon Adelson, but certainly ‘we the people’ can point out the devil’s lies at places like Unz.. elsewhere.

    Personally I’d like to see a one state solution imposed on Israel, with defined borders and equal rights for all the inhabitants of that land. IOW exactly what the Jews of the world demanded for S. Africa, or Rhodesia [now Zimbabwe]

    If it’s good enough for the goyim, it should be good enough for ‘the shinning light unto the voirld’, no?

    If the Brits don’t kick the bastards out now, they’ll lose their country.

    when you say bastards, I hope you’re referring to every single politician and media personality and all the rest who were and still are against Brexit. If Tony Blair were found dangling from a lamppost tomorrow morning, with a sign reading ‘traitor’ around his neck, I’d have more respect for the British people than I’ve ever been able to muster in my entire life.

    These are the people who, since the beginning of the industrial revolution despised the common people of England

    more to the point, they’re Jews

    so you have any doubt that Rothschild is more powerful than any Prime Minister?

    So they find these traitorous scum like Tony Blair- and that Swedish guy, and they elevate them to positions of power, so that they can have a goyim take all the blame for destroying England- and Sweden respectively.

    ‘it’s good for the Jews’

    No, the only thing that might save the British people will be something with more than a passing resemblance to Nazism

    well, I’m not sure the Nazis even had a passing resemblance to ‘Nazism’; as it’s mashed in our collective faces day in, day out. The ‘Nazis’ have replaced the devil in today’s popular conscience for the ultimate evil. And one thing I can assure you, is that if a politician or leader were to ever actually offer the British people some slight hope of holding on to what’s left of their island nation, then he or she will absolutely be subject to a chorus of screeching Nazi!! the likes of which it’s impossible to overstate. Trump is so marinated in NYC Jewish culture that he’s best buddies with Bibi, and his daughter and grandchildren are Jews. And yet they screech “Nazi”!! at Trump relentlessly. Putin is a Russian nationalist, who surely hates WWII Nazis as only a Russian nationalist can, and yet they screech “Nazi’ at him, just because he stopped going along with their plan to destroy seven countries in the middle east. For that, now he too is a ‘Nazi! Putin = Adolf Hitler!!!

    (it’s really quite funny, were it not so tragic)

    Just imagine what they’d say if an actual British patriot ever got close to the levers of power in England. There would be screeching hysterics like those sound cannons they use to survey for oil in the oceans, and which blows marine life’s ear drums out from miles away.

    Just imagining the psychotic hysteria and eardrum-shattering cacophony, it might be easier just to say goodbye to England… her history (that will all be rewritten to demonize all of England and the Brits as liars and thieves and, of course ‘racists!), and goodbye to the British race, who’ll be blended away for all time, even occasionally with consent.

    at least you won’t be racists

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    I think you win the argument but lose the war.

    Just about everything said in the political realm is either an outright lie or a piece of stinking hypocrisy. But you cannot win the war by engaging in the debate.

    The US is, and always has been, a plutocracy with a democratic facade. Today, the majority of richest Americans are Jews, so Jews have a disproportionate influence over American policy, both domestic and foreign.

    That Jewish influence is mediated not only via Congress, the courts, and academia, but by way of a huge globe-spanning network of megaphones: the Western world's news media, book publishing, entertainments, pornography, and Internet-related industries.

    A primary objective of Jewish-influence is a global system dominated by the Money Power. That means off-shoring of manufacturing from the West to the Rest, thereby maximizing corporate profits, while opening the borders of the West to the Rest to utterly destroy the prosperity of the Western peoples through the import of cheap labor.

    An intended result of the implementation of this policy has been the destruction the fertility of the Western nations through sharp reductions in incomes and a huge increase in competition for living space, particularly housing. Then, just to be quite sure, there's compulsory sex "education" whereby adult teachers, perverts all, one has to assume, teach elementary school kids buggery and how to suck cock.

    The objective, clearly is genocide.

    So what to do?

    Use the machinery of fake democracy and make it into a real democracy by mobilizing the blue collar and lower middle classes politically. That's what Hitler did, it's what Donald Trump has done.

    What remains to be seen is what Trump will do with the power he has acquired. His relationship with the conflicting parties, the Jews and other elements of the Money Power on the one hand, and America's blue collar class on the other hand is interesting.

    Trump is, so it has been claimed, of Jewish extraction, which seems likely, and his daughter is Jewish by conversion. So Trump is clearly in the Jewish camp. However, Trump's mother, née Mary Anne McLeod, was a pure-blooded Celt, born on the Island of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides of Scotland. Moreover, Trump gives every indication of loyalty and affection for his mother's people and perhaps, therefore, for the poor immigrants from all over Europe who created the American settler state and whose descendants make up the majority of America's oppressed blue collar class.

    Certainly, it was his appeal to the blue collar class, white, black and khaki, that won Trump election and it will be his ability to deliver on his promises to them that the success or failure of his presidency will be judged. Which raises the question, how does Trump resolve his commitments to both Jewish interests and white American interests?

    It seems to me that the only possible resolution is by (a) working to strengthen Israel as the permanent, and permanently secure, home of the Jews, while (b) adopting an America first immigration and trade policy.

    This, it seems to me, could work. It creates conditions for the restoration of the fertility of EuroAmericans, while encouraging American Jews either to emigrate to Israel or become America Firsters not American traitors.

    The big losers are (1) the neoCons and their media and Congressional ilk who will never get over the lost opportunity to use America as the tool with which to conquer to world for Jewish Money-Power-mediated world supremacy; (2) the Palestinians.

    It seems to me that Palestine is lost to the Palestinians, just as a large chunk of the West may already have been lost to the Third World. However, there are less than five million Palestinians in Israel and the occupied territories, and their fate can be greatly improved in at least two ways.

    First, the West might provide a preferential immigration policy for Palestinians, of whom many, and one would hope virtually all, would move to Europe, North America, Latin America, and Australia, where they would no doubt prosper and, furthermore, provide some counterbalance to undue Jewish influence in the West.

    Second, the West might seek a deal with one of the North African states to transfer to the Palestinians 20,000 km2 of territory to build New Palestine, in return for which the Western nations would pay something like $20 billion for the land. This presumably would be mostly unoccupied desert, so a price of $10,000 per hectare would seem reasonable although there would be additional payment for existing improvements. In addition, the West would commit to investing $1 trillion over ten years, this cash to be split equally between New Palestine and the country selling the territory. This investment, a rather trivial amount relative to, say, the US military budget, would go for massive solar-powered water desalination plants, cropland and urban infrastructure development.

    Might not Egypt buy into such a project? Would it not be a terrific deal to grant one third of the Sinai to the Palestinians, while seeing two-thirds of the Sinai developed as a high tech urban/agricultural zone accommodating millions of Egypt's teaming masses in cities of superb architectural design, equipped with among the world's the finest educational and research facilities, and surrounded by thousands of square kilometers of the world's most advanced agricultural production systems?

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    That's a function of the inarticulateness of those to whom you've made that half-baked remark. G'd is not the real-estate agent; he is the owner of all and gives a people what He feels they deserve.

    he is the owner of all and gives a people what He feels they deserve.

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    The Holocaust was the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of six million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators. Holocaust is a word of Greek origin meaning "sacrifice by fire." The Nazis, who came to power in Germany in January 1933, believed that Germans were "racially superior" and that the Jews, deemed "inferior," were an alien threat to the so-called German racial community.

    During the era of the Holocaust, German authorities also targeted other groups because of their perceived "racial inferiority": Roma (Gypsies), the disabled, and some of the Slavic peoples (Poles, Russians, and others). Other groups were persecuted on political, ideological, and behavioral grounds, among them Communists, Socialists, Jehovah's Witnesses, and homosexuals.

    WHAT WAS THE HOLOCAUST?

    In 1933, the Jewish population of Europe stood at over nine million. Most European Jews lived in countries that Nazi Germany would occupy or influence during World War II. By 1945, the Germans and their collaborators killed nearly two out of every three European Jews as part of the "Final Solution," the Nazi policy to murder the Jews of Europe.

    Although Jews, whom the Nazis deemed a priority danger to Germany, were the primary victims of Nazi racism, other victims included some 200,000 Roma (Gypsies). At least 200,000 mentally or physically disabled patients, mainly Germans, living in institutional settings, were murdered in the so-called Euthanasia Program.

    As Nazi tyranny spread across Europe, the Germans and their collaborators persecuted and murdered millions of other people. Between two and three million Soviet prisoners of war were murdered or died of starvation, disease, neglect, or maltreatment. The Germans targeted the non-Jewish Polish intelligentsia for killing, and deported millions of Polish and Soviet civilians for forced labor in Germany or in occupied Poland, where these individuals worked and often died under deplorable conditions.

    From the earliest years of the Nazi regime, German authorities persecuted homosexuals and others whose behavior did not match prescribed social norms. German police officials targeted thousands of political opponents (including Communists, Socialists, and trade unionists) and religious dissidents (such as Jehovah's Witnesses). Many of these individuals died as a result of incarceration and maltreatment.

    ADMINISTRATION OF THE "FINAL SOLUTION"

    In the early years of the Nazi regime, the National Socialist government established concentration camps to detain real and imagined political and ideological opponents. Increasingly in the years before the outbreak of war, SS and police officials incarcerated Jews, Roma, and other victims of ethnic and racial hatred in these camps.

    To concentrate and monitor the Jewish population as well as to facilitate later deportation of the Jews, the Germans and their collaborators created ghettos, transit camps, and forced-labor camps for Jews during the war years. The German authorities also established numerous forced-labor camps, both in the so-called Greater German Reich and in German-occupied territory, for non-Jews whose labor the Germans sought to exploit.

    Following the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, Einsatzgruppen (mobile killing units) and, later, militarized battalions of Order Police officials, moved behind German lines to carry out mass-murder operations against Jews, Roma, and Soviet state and Communist Party officials. German SS and police units, supported by units of the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS, murdered more than a million Jewish men, women, and children, and hundreds of thousands of others.

    Between 1941 and 1944, Nazi German authorities deported millions of Jews from Germany, from occupied territories, and from the countries of many of its Axis allies to ghettos and to killing centers, often called extermination camps, where they were murdered in specially developed gassing facilities.

    THE END OF THE HOLOCAUST

    In the final months of the war, SS guards moved camp inmates by train or on forced marches, often called “death marches,” in an attempt to prevent the Allied liberation of large numbers of prisoners. As Allied forces moved across Europe in a series of offensives against Germany, they began to encounter and liberate concentration camp prisoners, as well as prisoners en route by forced march from one camp to another. The marches continued until May 7, 1945, the day the German armed forces surrendered unconditionally to the Allies.

    For the western Allies, World War II officially ended in Europe on the next day, May 8 (V-E Day), while Soviet forces announced their “Victory Day” on May 9, 1945.

    In the aftermath of the Holocaust, many of the survivors found shelter in displaced persons (DP) camps administered by the Allied powers. Between 1948 and 1951, almost 700,000 Jews emigrated to Israel, including 136,000 Jewish displaced persons from Europe. Other Jewish DPs emigrated to the United States and other nations. The last DP camp closed in 1957.

    The crimes committed during the Holocaust devastated most European Jewish communities and eliminated hundreds of Jewish communities in occupied eastern Europe entirely.

    Further Reading

    Bergen, Doris. War & Genocide: A Concise History of the Holocaust. Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield, 2003

    Dawidowicz, Lucy S. The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1975.

    Gilbert, Martin. The Holocaust: A History of the Jews of Europe During the Second World War. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1986.

    Gutman, Israel, editor. Encyclopedia of the Holocaust. New York: Macmillan Publishing Company, 1990.

    Hilberg, Raul. The Destruction of the European Jews. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2003.

    Yahil, Leni. The Holocaust: The Fate of European Jewry, 1932-1945. New York: Oxford University Press, 1990.

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    The Holocaust was the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of six million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators. Holocaust is a word of Greek origin meaning “sacrifice by fire.” The Nazis, who came to power in Germany in January 1933, believed that Germans were “racially superior” and that the Jews, deemed “inferior,” were an alien threat to the so-called German racial community.

    During the era of the Holocaust, German authorities also targeted other groups because of their perceived “racial inferiority”: Roma (Gypsies), the disabled, and some of the Slavic peoples (Poles, Russians, and others). Other groups were persecuted on political, ideological, and behavioral grounds, among them Communists, Socialists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and homosexuals.

    WHAT WAS THE HOLOCAUST?

    In 1933, the Jewish population of Europe stood at over nine million. Most European Jews lived in countries that Nazi Germany would occupy or influence during World War II. By 1945, the Germans and their collaborators killed nearly two out of every three European Jews as part of the “Final Solution,” the Nazi policy to murder the Jews of Europe.

    Although Jews, whom the Nazis deemed a priority danger to Germany, were the primary victims of Nazi racism, other victims included some 200,000 Roma (Gypsies). At least 200,000 mentally or physically disabled patients, mainly Germans, living in institutional settings, were murdered in the so-called Euthanasia Program.

    As Nazi tyranny spread across Europe, the Germans and their collaborators persecuted and murdered millions of other people. Between two and three million Soviet prisoners of war were murdered or died of starvation, disease, neglect, or maltreatment. The Germans targeted the non-Jewish Polish intelligentsia for killing, and deported millions of Polish and Soviet civilians for forced labor in Germany or in occupied Poland, where these individuals worked and often died under deplorable conditions.

    From the earliest years of the Nazi regime, German authorities persecuted homosexuals and others whose behavior did not match prescribed social norms. German police officials targeted thousands of political opponents (including Communists, Socialists, and trade unionists) and religious dissidents (such as Jehovah’s Witnesses). Many of these individuals died as a result of incarceration and maltreatment.

    ADMINISTRATION OF THE “FINAL SOLUTION”

    In the early years of the Nazi regime, the National Socialist government established concentration camps to detain real and imagined political and ideological opponents. Increasingly in the years before the outbreak of war, SS and police officials incarcerated Jews, Roma, and other victims of ethnic and racial hatred in these camps.

    To concentrate and monitor the Jewish population as well as to facilitate later deportation of the Jews, the Germans and their collaborators created ghettos, transit camps, and forced-labor camps for Jews during the war years. The German authorities also established numerous forced-labor camps, both in the so-called Greater German Reich and in German-occupied territory, for non-Jews whose labor the Germans sought to exploit.

    Following the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, Einsatzgruppen (mobile killing units) and, later, militarized battalions of Order Police officials, moved behind German lines to carry out mass-murder operations against Jews, Roma, and Soviet state and Communist Party officials. German SS and police units, supported by units of the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS, murdered more than a million Jewish men, women, and children, and hundreds of thousands of others.

    Between 1941 and 1944, Nazi German authorities deported millions of Jews from Germany, from occupied territories, and from the countries of many of its Axis allies to ghettos and to killing centers, often called extermination camps, where they were murdered in specially developed gassing facilities.

    THE END OF THE HOLOCAUST

    In the final months of the war, SS guards moved camp inmates by train or on forced marches, often called “death marches,” in an attempt to prevent the Allied liberation of large numbers of prisoners. As Allied forces moved across Europe in a series of offensives against Germany, they began to encounter and liberate concentration camp prisoners, as well as prisoners en route by forced march from one camp to another. The marches continued until May 7, 1945, the day the German armed forces surrendered unconditionally to the Allies.

    For the western Allies, World War II officially ended in Europe on the next day, May 8 (V-E Day), while Soviet forces announced their “Victory Day” on May 9, 1945.

    In the aftermath of the Holocaust, many of the survivors found shelter in displaced persons (DP) camps administered by the Allied powers. Between 1948 and 1951, almost 700,000 Jews emigrated to Israel, including 136,000 Jewish displaced persons from Europe. Other Jewish DPs emigrated to the United States and other nations. The last DP camp closed in 1957.

    The crimes committed during the Holocaust devastated most European Jewish communities and eliminated hundreds of Jewish communities in occupied eastern Europe entirely.

    Further Reading

    Bergen, Doris. War & Genocide: A Concise History of the Holocaust. Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield, 2003

    Dawidowicz, Lucy S. The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1975.

    Gilbert, Martin. The Holocaust: A History of the Jews of Europe During the Second World War. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1986.

    Gutman, Israel, editor. Encyclopedia of the Holocaust. New York: Macmillan Publishing Company, 1990.

    Hilberg, Raul. The Destruction of the European Jews. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2003.

    Yahil, Leni. The Holocaust: The Fate of European Jewry, 1932-1945. New York: Oxford University Press, 1990.

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    Victims of the Nazi Era: Nazi Racial Ideology
    The Holocaust and World War II: Timeline
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    Nazi Camps
    “Final Solution”: Overview
    Children during the Holocaust
    Perpetrators
    What is Genocide?
    Combating Holocaust Denial: Evidence of the Holocaust presented at Nuremberg
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    The Holocaust was the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of six million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators. Holocaust is a word of Greek origin meaning "sacrifice by fire." The Nazis, who came to power in Germany in January 1933, believed that Germans were "racially superior" and that the Jews, deemed "inferior," were an alien threat to the so-called German racial community.

    During the era of the Holocaust, German authorities also targeted other groups because of their perceived "racial inferiority": Roma (Gypsies), the disabled, and some of the Slavic peoples (Poles, Russians, and others). Other groups were persecuted on political, ideological, and behavioral grounds, among them Communists, Socialists, Jehovah's Witnesses, and homosexuals.

    WHAT WAS THE HOLOCAUST?

    In 1933, the Jewish population of Europe stood at over nine million. Most European Jews lived in countries that Nazi Germany would occupy or influence during World War II. By 1945, the Germans and their collaborators killed nearly two out of every three European Jews as part of the "Final Solution," the Nazi policy to murder the Jews of Europe.

    Although Jews, whom the Nazis deemed a priority danger to Germany, were the primary victims of Nazi racism, other victims included some 200,000 Roma (Gypsies). At least 200,000 mentally or physically disabled patients, mainly Germans, living in institutional settings, were murdered in the so-called Euthanasia Program.

    As Nazi tyranny spread across Europe, the Germans and their collaborators persecuted and murdered millions of other people. Between two and three million Soviet prisoners of war were murdered or died of starvation, disease, neglect, or maltreatment. The Germans targeted the non-Jewish Polish intelligentsia for killing, and deported millions of Polish and Soviet civilians for forced labor in Germany or in occupied Poland, where these individuals worked and often died under deplorable conditions.

    From the earliest years of the Nazi regime, German authorities persecuted homosexuals and others whose behavior did not match prescribed social norms. German police officials targeted thousands of political opponents (including Communists, Socialists, and trade unionists) and religious dissidents (such as Jehovah's Witnesses). Many of these individuals died as a result of incarceration and maltreatment.

    ADMINISTRATION OF THE "FINAL SOLUTION"

    In the early years of the Nazi regime, the National Socialist government established concentration camps to detain real and imagined political and ideological opponents. Increasingly in the years before the outbreak of war, SS and police officials incarcerated Jews, Roma, and other victims of ethnic and racial hatred in these camps.

    To concentrate and monitor the Jewish population as well as to facilitate later deportation of the Jews, the Germans and their collaborators created ghettos, transit camps, and forced-labor camps for Jews during the war years. The German authorities also established numerous forced-labor camps, both in the so-called Greater German Reich and in German-occupied territory, for non-Jews whose labor the Germans sought to exploit.

    Following the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, Einsatzgruppen (mobile killing units) and, later, militarized battalions of Order Police officials, moved behind German lines to carry out mass-murder operations against Jews, Roma, and Soviet state and Communist Party officials. German SS and police units, supported by units of the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS, murdered more than a million Jewish men, women, and children, and hundreds of thousands of others.

    Between 1941 and 1944, Nazi German authorities deported millions of Jews from Germany, from occupied territories, and from the countries of many of its Axis allies to ghettos and to killing centers, often called extermination camps, where they were murdered in specially developed gassing facilities.

    THE END OF THE HOLOCAUST

    In the final months of the war, SS guards moved camp inmates by train or on forced marches, often called “death marches,” in an attempt to prevent the Allied liberation of large numbers of prisoners. As Allied forces moved across Europe in a series of offensives against Germany, they began to encounter and liberate concentration camp prisoners, as well as prisoners en route by forced march from one camp to another. The marches continued until May 7, 1945, the day the German armed forces surrendered unconditionally to the Allies.

    For the western Allies, World War II officially ended in Europe on the next day, May 8 (V-E Day), while Soviet forces announced their “Victory Day” on May 9, 1945.

    In the aftermath of the Holocaust, many of the survivors found shelter in displaced persons (DP) camps administered by the Allied powers. Between 1948 and 1951, almost 700,000 Jews emigrated to Israel, including 136,000 Jewish displaced persons from Europe. Other Jewish DPs emigrated to the United States and other nations. The last DP camp closed in 1957.

    The crimes committed during the Holocaust devastated most European Jewish communities and eliminated hundreds of Jewish communities in occupied eastern Europe entirely.

    Further Reading

    Bergen, Doris. War & Genocide: A Concise History of the Holocaust. Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield, 2003

    Dawidowicz, Lucy S. The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1975.

    Gilbert, Martin. The Holocaust: A History of the Jews of Europe During the Second World War. New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1986.

    Gutman, Israel, editor. Encyclopedia of the Holocaust. New York: Macmillan Publishing Company, 1990.

    Hilberg, Raul. The Destruction of the European Jews. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2003.

    Yahil, Leni. The Holocaust: The Fate of European Jewry, 1932-1945. New York: Oxford University Press, 1990.

    RELATED ARTICLES

    Holocaust (Abridged Article)
    Victims of the Nazi Era: Nazi Racial Ideology
    The Holocaust and World War II: Timeline
    Ghettos
    Nazi Camps
    "Final Solution": Overview
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    @Sam Shama
    That's a function of the inarticulateness of those to whom you've made that half-baked remark. G'd is not the real-estate agent; he is the owner of all and gives a people what He feels they deserve.

    G’d is not the real-estate agent; he is the owner of all and gives a people what He feels they deserve.

    Sam,

    That old scoundrel Yahweh did not give Jews the Promised land, he told them to go steal it and kill every one of the original inhabitants:

    When the Lord your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you…you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them…. For they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods. Then the anger of the Lord will be kindled against you and He will quickly destroy you. But thus you shall do to them: You shall tear down their altars, and smash their sacred pillars, and hew down their Asherim, and burn their graven images with fire. (Deut. 7:1-5)

    Only in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes. But you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the Lord your God has commanded you, so that they may not teach you to do according to all their detestable things which they have done for their gods, so that you would sin against the Lord your God. (Deut. 20.16-18)

    Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” (1 Sam 15:2-3)

    Perhaps it is because Jews wish to keep an understanding of how evolution works to themselves that the Unz Review publishes Fred Reed’s nonsense articles on the subject, while refusing to publish, or even to acknowledge receipt of, a rebuttal.

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    You are interpreting my response on G'd gifts far too literally. As a practical matter, I believe a people which build the metropolis, invent the technologies, turn the desert bountiful and create a culture for their children to love, cherish, and nurture in the days ahead, own the land. Jews have lived there longer and more productively than any other. Now, that doesn't forbid an accommodation for Palestinians, densely populated as the land is, but such a project demands a careful eye to separate the troublemakers from the worthy.

    I read through your piece criticising Fred, and of course, it succeeds as a valid criticism! But Fred wasn't attempting to construct a general theory of Everything, was he? The man's a mountebank and lives to push his readers. But whatever do you mean by Jews attempting to suppress the Theory of Evolution? Sorry mate, you lost me there.

  150. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rurik

    he is the owner of all and gives a people what He feels they deserve.
     
    http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2015-02-02-HuffPostHolocaust2.jpg

    Haha, flawless.

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  151. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rurik

    That’s true. But America is the ancient land of the Amerindians. Canada is the ancient … etc.

    Stealing other people’s land is what people have been doing since time immemorial
     
    all true

    but then something was supposed to have been decided once and for all at Nuremburg, when the horrified world decided to codify into law certain principles, like a repudiation of genocide for instance, and a respect for the Rule of Law, and International Law, and human rights, and so on.

    Consider, if we humans really didn't learn anything from WWII, and 'might' really does = 'right',

    and it's OK for the Jews to murder and steal the land of others....

    well then guess what else that means?

    it means that the Nazis hand's were clean. And that they did nothing wrong when they ethnically cleansed the Jews out, and murdered some of them in the process.

    If,
    what the Zionists have been, and are doing in Palestine is OK = then everything the Nazi did was certainly OK, because for one thing, the Nazis were murdering and expelling foreigners (who were graciously allowed to settle in Germany in the first place) out of their own lands, whereas the Jews are murdering and expelling Palestinians out of the Palestinian's own lands.

    So if it's OK for the Zionists to murder Palestinians and steal their land, then by what metric has the world been barraged with all this sanctimonious hysteria about evil 'Nazis' all this time?

    Why is Germany harangued and demonized, even today's generation for something they had nothing to do with, when the people demonizing them are engaging in the very same behavior themselves? Only worse.

    And yet people don't see this raging double standard, and mock every Jew anywhere who cries crocodile tears over the Holocaust, as he shoots another Palestinian child from a rooftop.

    I for one find the self-righteous sanctimony intolerable, and enjoy pointing it out. The Jews have used the Holocaust to blackmail the world into being actual guilty participants to a genocidal holocaust of the Palestinians, and they are certainly behind the wars in the Middle East today, and yet they still put on airs of victimhood, and our politicians grovel at their feet. It's all so disgusting it makes me sick to my stomach.

    But in Palestine, it’s game over — barring some unpredictable catastrophe for the Israelis
     
    that's it?

    you're a thoughtful and educated and intelligent fellow, and that's all you've got to offer vis-a-vis the troubles over there? What about Gaza? Should they just commit mass-suicide and be done with it?

    What about the occupied territories? Should the world continue to look the other way, as these horribly persecuted people are driven into the dirt?

    Should the American people continue to be taxed to the tune of billions to continue funding genocide and murder?

    Should we continue to send specially built Caterpillar bulldozers that are used even for crushing and murdering idealistic young American girls?

    We all know that the politicians are craven worms who serve at the pleasure of snakes like Sheldon Adelson, but certainly 'we the people' can point out the devil's lies at places like Unz.. elsewhere.

    Personally I'd like to see a one state solution imposed on Israel, with defined borders and equal rights for all the inhabitants of that land. IOW exactly what the Jews of the world demanded for S. Africa, or Rhodesia [now Zimbabwe]

    If it's good enough for the goyim, it should be good enough for 'the shinning light unto the voirld', no?


    If the Brits don’t kick the bastards out now, they’ll lose their country.
     
    when you say bastards, I hope you're referring to every single politician and media personality and all the rest who were and still are against Brexit. If Tony Blair were found dangling from a lamppost tomorrow morning, with a sign reading 'traitor' around his neck, I'd have more respect for the British people than I've ever been able to muster in my entire life.

    These are the people who, since the beginning of the industrial revolution despised the common people of England
     
    more to the point, they're Jews

    so you have any doubt that Rothschild is more powerful than any Prime Minister?

    So they find these traitorous scum like Tony Blair- and that Swedish guy, and they elevate them to positions of power, so that they can have a goyim take all the blame for destroying England- and Sweden respectively.

    'it's good for the Jews'

    No, the only thing that might save the British people will be something with more than a passing resemblance to Nazism
     
    well, I'm not sure the Nazis even had a passing resemblance to 'Nazism'; as it's mashed in our collective faces day in, day out. The 'Nazis' have replaced the devil in today's popular conscience for the ultimate evil. And one thing I can assure you, is that if a politician or leader were to ever actually offer the British people some slight hope of holding on to what's left of their island nation, then he or she will absolutely be subject to a chorus of screeching Nazi!! the likes of which it's impossible to overstate. Trump is so marinated in NYC Jewish culture that he's best buddies with Bibi, and his daughter and grandchildren are Jews. And yet they screech "Nazi"!! at Trump relentlessly. Putin is a Russian nationalist, who surely hates WWII Nazis as only a Russian nationalist can, and yet they screech "Nazi' at him, just because he stopped going along with their plan to destroy seven countries in the middle east. For that, now he too is a 'Nazi! Putin = Adolf Hitler!!!

    (it's really quite funny, were it not so tragic)

    Just imagine what they'd say if an actual British patriot ever got close to the levers of power in England. There would be screeching hysterics like those sound cannons they use to survey for oil in the oceans, and which blows marine life's ear drums out from miles away.

    Just imagining the psychotic hysteria and eardrum-shattering cacophony, it might be easier just to say goodbye to England... her history (that will all be rewritten to demonize all of England and the Brits as liars and thieves and, of course 'racists!), and goodbye to the British race, who'll be blended away for all time, even occasionally with consent.

    http://static.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Shoe-bomber-Richard-Reid-pictured-in-jail-e1422386439223.jpg

    at least you won't be racists

    Rurik,

    I think you win the argument but lose the war.

    Just about everything said in the political realm is either an outright lie or a piece of stinking hypocrisy. But you cannot win the war by engaging in the debate.

    The US is, and always has been, a plutocracy with a democratic facade. Today, the majority of richest Americans are Jews, so Jews have a disproportionate influence over American policy, both domestic and foreign.

    That Jewish influence is mediated not only via Congress, the courts, and academia, but by way of a huge globe-spanning network of megaphones: the Western world’s news media, book publishing, entertainments, pornography, and Internet-related industries.

    A primary objective of Jewish-influence is a global system dominated by the Money Power. That means off-shoring of manufacturing from the West to the Rest, thereby maximizing corporate profits, while opening the borders of the West to the Rest to utterly destroy the prosperity of the Western peoples through the import of cheap labor.

    An intended result of the implementation of this policy has been the destruction the fertility of the Western nations through sharp reductions in incomes and a huge increase in competition for living space, particularly housing. Then, just to be quite sure, there’s compulsory sex “education” whereby adult teachers, perverts all, one has to assume, teach elementary school kids buggery and how to suck cock.

    The objective, clearly is genocide.

    So what to do?

    Use the machinery of fake democracy and make it into a real democracy by mobilizing the blue collar and lower middle classes politically. That’s what Hitler did, it’s what Donald Trump has done.

    What remains to be seen is what Trump will do with the power he has acquired. His relationship with the conflicting parties, the Jews and other elements of the Money Power on the one hand, and America’s blue collar class on the other hand is interesting.

    Trump is, so it has been claimed, of Jewish extraction, which seems likely, and his daughter is Jewish by conversion. So Trump is clearly in the Jewish camp. However, Trump’s mother, née Mary Anne McLeod, was a pure-blooded Celt, born on the Island of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides of Scotland. Moreover, Trump gives every indication of loyalty and affection for his mother’s people and perhaps, therefore, for the poor immigrants from all over Europe who created the American settler state and whose descendants make up the majority of America’s oppressed blue collar class.

    Certainly, it was his appeal to the blue collar class, white, black and khaki, that won Trump election and it will be his ability to deliver on his promises to them that the success or failure of his presidency will be judged. Which raises the question, how does Trump resolve his commitments to both Jewish interests and white American interests?

    It seems to me that the only possible resolution is by (a) working to strengthen Israel as the permanent, and permanently secure, home of the Jews, while (b) adopting an America first immigration and trade policy.

    This, it seems to me, could work. It creates conditions for the restoration of the fertility of EuroAmericans, while encouraging American Jews either to emigrate to Israel or become America Firsters not American traitors.

    The big losers are (1) the neoCons and their media and Congressional ilk who will never get over the lost opportunity to use America as the tool with which to conquer to world for Jewish Money-Power-mediated world supremacy; (2) the Palestinians.

    It seems to me that Palestine is lost to the Palestinians, just as a large chunk of the West may already have been lost to the Third World. However, there are less than five million Palestinians in Israel and the occupied territories, and their fate can be greatly improved in at least two ways.

    First, the West might provide a preferential immigration policy for Palestinians, of whom many, and one would hope virtually all, would move to Europe, North America, Latin America, and Australia, where they would no doubt prosper and, furthermore, provide some counterbalance to undue Jewish influence in the West.

    Second, the West might seek a deal with one of the North African states to transfer to the Palestinians 20,000 km2 of territory to build New Palestine, in return for which the Western nations would pay something like $20 billion for the land. This presumably would be mostly unoccupied desert, so a price of $10,000 per hectare would seem reasonable although there would be additional payment for existing improvements. In addition, the West would commit to investing $1 trillion over ten years, this cash to be split equally between New Palestine and the country selling the territory. This investment, a rather trivial amount relative to, say, the US military budget, would go for massive solar-powered water desalination plants, cropland and urban infrastructure development.

    Might not Egypt buy into such a project? Would it not be a terrific deal to grant one third of the Sinai to the Palestinians, while seeing two-thirds of the Sinai developed as a high tech urban/agricultural zone accommodating millions of Egypt’s teaming masses in cities of superb architectural design, equipped with among the world’s the finest educational and research facilities, and surrounded by thousands of square kilometers of the world’s most advanced agricultural production systems?

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    It seems to me that the only possible resolution is by (a) working to strengthen Israel as the permanent, and permanently secure, home of the Jews, while (b) adopting an America first immigration and trade policy.
     
    Agree.
    , @Anonymous

    A primary objective of Jewish-influence is a global system dominated by the Money Power. That means off-shoring of manufacturing from the West to the Rest, thereby maximizing corporate profits, while opening the borders of the West to the Rest to utterly destroy the prosperity of the Western peoples through the import of cheap labor.
     
    Maximising corporate profits is a side-benefit. The main goal is to dis-empower the white race and prepare them for replacement. You should have recognised this when the talking heads invented the "empowerment" buzz-word. The NWO is not meant to deal with a 100+ IQ populace.

    Do you really believe that Soros is investing into third-wave feminism, abortion and borderless immigration (all designed to hurt the white race) to gain a monetary profit from it? For him, and his masters, the money is no object - it's the water they breathe.

    “I fancied myself as some kind of god … If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble.“ When asked by Britain’s Independent newspaper to elaborate on that statement, Soros doubled down: “It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.“
     
    http://archive.is/Imj9Y

    Despite his reputation as an international philanthropist, Soros occasionally becomes candid about his real nature. “I am sort of a deus ex machina,” Soros told the New York Times in 1994. “I am something unnatural. I’m very comfortable with my public persona because it is one I have created for myself. It represents what I like to be as distinct from what I really am. You know, in my personal capacity I’m not actually a selfless philanthropic person. I’m very much self-centered.”
     
    http://archive.is/LRxHu
    , @Rurik

    Just about everything said in the political realm is either an outright lie or a piece of stinking hypocrisy. But you cannot win the war by engaging in the debate
     
    it's enough for me to tell the simple truth. I don't expect that to win any wars, but it's cathartic for me, and at least I'm one more voice exposing the devil's lies.

    The objective, clearly is genocide.

    So what to do?
     

    yep

    and good question...


    What remains to be seen is what Trump will do with the power he has acquired. His relationship with the conflicting parties, the Jews and other elements of the Money Power on the one hand, and America’s blue collar class on the other hand is interesting.
     
    very much so

    Which raises the question, how does Trump resolve his commitments to both Jewish interests and white American interests?
     
    extremely salient question indeed, since they seem to be mutually exclusive

    It seems to me that the only possible resolution is by (a) working to strengthen Israel as the permanent, and permanently secure, home of the Jews, while (b) adopting an America first immigration and trade policy.
     
    sounds good, but the only problems is that the US gov is already doing everything it can to bolster Israel's fortunes in any way that it can. Billions of dollars in aid, any military aid they ask for, running cover at the UN, giving them white phosphorus to use on Gaza, and basically anything Israel wants.

    So now what Israel has been demanding is that the US also destroy all the countries in the Middle East and elsewhere who don't bow down to Jewish supremacist money power. And so we've been doing that, spending trillion$ slaughtering and murdering and maiming millions of men, women and children, just like those Old Testament quotes you provided.

    But it's not enough. We have to finish off Syria. They want the Golan Heights and they will force a nuclear war with Russia (and the US of course! the cowards don't like to fight their own wars) in order to steal it.

    And that's where we're at.


    This, it seems to me, could work. It creates conditions for the restoration of the fertility of EuroAmericans, while encouraging American Jews either to emigrate to Israel or become America Firsters not American traitors.
     
    there's something I don't think you understand. Sure they hate the Muslims and they privately mock the schwarzes as sub-humans. But who they really hate are the white Europeans. Or, more specifically, the white European men who shut down their brothels in Berlin, which were full of white European children. So under some circumstances, they're quite fond of white flesh, but not the kind that is filled with the blood and vigor of Europe's ancestors. Which always puts the kibosh on their party. That kind of white, European they want dead and in the grave (or at least with a boot stamping on his face). And it's a manifest obsession. They don't take a breath that isn't full to the brim with pure hatred for straight-standing white men. Make no mistake, we're all nothing but dormant Nazis to them, and they want us all marginalized and emasculated more than even their hatred for Muslims. Whom they always use to destroy white societies, going all the way back to Moorish Spain, where the Jews opened the gates to hundreds of years of slavery, genocide and oppression.

    If they could do the same to every last bastion of white civilization, do you think they'd hesitate for a second?

    Even, I suspect, (because their hatred is that all-consuming), even if it meant their own destruction. They're like the blacks in Zimbabwe, (or the scorpion with the frog) who have made it clear that even if it means they'll starve, they don't care. They still demand the end of white existence from their purview.

    to really understand how much they hate us, just consider the case of Channon Christian, (or that twelve year old boy who was burned alive with a blowtorch - that no one has heard of).

    when certain types of crimes happen, and they're obviously racially charged, you can glimmer a lot about our ((media masters)) by how they cover such stories. When white men (don't) gang rape a black girl at Duke, it's headline news from the length and breath of their bullhorns and newspapers. It's on TV and politicians and university deans and everywhere there is hysteria and "outrage!"

    Same for Travon or Michael Brown or any other non-crime that can be hysterically used to demonize whites as murderous racists...

    but let some white girl (named Christian!) watch her boyfriend raped and tortured to death, and then set on fire, only as the horrifying prologue for what she's about to endure, for many hours, until she was stuffed in a garbage bag and slowly suffocated to death. And there's silence.

    deathly silence

    yet I hear a thunderous meaning coming from that silence, and it says to me...

    'we like what happened to those white racists and anti-Semites'

    http://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/thumbs/gregor-gysi.jpg

    'we even get off on that kind of thing'

    that's what I hear, loud and clear.

    and, that they'd like to see a lot more of that kind of 'justice', as they see it.

    OR, they'd report on it. Wouldn't they? And the reason they don't report on it.... is because by doing so, it might make the next white couple a tiny bit more suspicious of the diversity around them, and that such events would then be a little less frequent. Like the Wichita massacre for instance. So, they hush up such crimes, because they obviously want to see more of them. Duh.

    And that is why I can't get behind your idea that they'd ever be sanguine about creating "conditions for the restoration of the fertility of EuroAmericans".

    before they'd allow that, they see Israel pushed into the sea. They'd see a nuclear holocaust that would destroy all life on this planet, before they'd ever sign off on a future where they share the planet with thriving and ascendant 'Nazis and Christians. (redundant from their point of view)

    perhaps I'm wrong about that, but I feel I can glimmer much more what people don't say, (by their booming silence) than by what they do say [usually lies ; ]

    since this post is getting too long, I'm going to reply to the rest of your fine comment in another post...

    , @Rurik

    American Jews either to emigrate to Israel or become America Firsters not American traitors.
     
    are you j0king?

    the history of 'the Jews' is long and storied. When during that history have the Jews ever been loyal to their host Gentiles, over the interests of 'the tribe'?

    a few individuals perhaps, for sure. (am I the only one who sees shades of Roy Cohn in Steven Miller?)

    but on the whole, they'll never be able to forsake the Sandra Bernhard, George Soros wing of their DNA. It's too hardwired. I'd like to think you're right, but alas, I fear that is just too Pollyanna.

    The big losers are (1) the neoCons and their media and Congressional ilk who will never get over the lost opportunity to use America as the tool with which to conquer to world for Jewish Money-Power-mediated world supremacy; (2) the Palestinians.
     
    so you think they'd make common cause with David Duke if they could finally get rid of the Pals?

    whitey could once again be ascendant and hopeful and thrive and prosper and frolic in the meadows of America...

    no longer a murderous racist to his core, but now a loving, wonderful partner in a new and shinning America with a white future?

    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9pcj8TJpB1r48hglo1_1280.jpg

    lol

    ((They'd)) rather have Armageddon

    It seems to me that Palestine is lost to the Palestinians, just as a large chunk of the West may already have been lost to the Third World.
     
    I suspect that inadvertently (a Freudian slip?) you've noticed a common thread. We in the West can not sacrifice the Palestinians to the pyres of Moloch in order to buy our future from the Fiend.

    our fates are intertwined. We are- both of us groups, the Palestinians and the white race- being genocided by the very same Fiend, and it will not be sated with a few Arab lives or ethnic cleansing. No. In fact it will never be sated, ever. Indeed, with every feast it slathers down its gapping maw, it grows more and more hungry. Its appetite increases with every nation ground into the dirt and millions of lives destroyed. It is a drooling beast with a life of its own, and the more you feed it, the more murderous and demonic it becomes. You can't make deals with it, and say, 'how bout we give you the Palestinians?', will that sate your dripping maw for the moment', and 'sure' it will answer, but by now if you don't know that everything it says is a lie, then you don't know the Fiend.

    First, the West might provide a preferential immigration policy for Palestinians, of whom many, and one would hope virtually all, would move to Europe, North America, Latin America, and Australia, where they would no doubt prosper and, furthermore, provide some counterbalance to undue Jewish influence in the West.
     
    now you're being silly

    a counterbalance? The Palestinian diaspora? lol

    Second, the West might seek a deal with one of the North African states to transfer to the Palestinians 20,000 km2 of territory to build New Palestine, in return for which the Western nations would pay something like $20 billion for the land.
     
    you really don't understand them do you?

    if the world agreed tomorrow to resettle every single Palestinian into Norway, and gave Israel the Golan Heights and even vouchsafed Greater Israel to the world's Jews, 'from the Nile to the Euphrates', and funded the rebuilding of the third temple on the Temple Mount, and got down on their hands and knees and licked their feet clean....

    that would only embolden them, and they'd demand more. That's their nature my friend. And I suspect that the more honest among them would even admit it.

    In fact it was a Jew himself- Benjamin Freedman- who opened my eyes, and gave me the red pill.

    No, what the world's people need to do, is realize that we're all in this together. We all need to repudiate the war pigs and criminals. We need to find a way to send Tony Blair to the Hague, and then the rest of them.

    We need to protect the lives and futures of the Palestinian people more than anyone else. They are our canary in the global coal mine, and as they go, so too will we.

    We need to leash the Fiend, not feed it.

    will that be possible?

    only when enough of the world's people understand what is going on. Only when the movement to audit the Fed (the fount of their demonic power) gains sufficient grass-roots support that we can finally wrest control of our governments back from the money boyz.

    what we must not do, is toss the Palestinians under the bus. Not only would that be a sin, but you don't free yourself from a Fiend by handing it someone weaker. You make common cause with all the victims of the Fiend, and together you stand united against it.

    IMHO
  152. peterAUS says:
    @CanSpeccy
    Rurik,

    I think you win the argument but lose the war.

    Just about everything said in the political realm is either an outright lie or a piece of stinking hypocrisy. But you cannot win the war by engaging in the debate.

    The US is, and always has been, a plutocracy with a democratic facade. Today, the majority of richest Americans are Jews, so Jews have a disproportionate influence over American policy, both domestic and foreign.

    That Jewish influence is mediated not only via Congress, the courts, and academia, but by way of a huge globe-spanning network of megaphones: the Western world's news media, book publishing, entertainments, pornography, and Internet-related industries.

    A primary objective of Jewish-influence is a global system dominated by the Money Power. That means off-shoring of manufacturing from the West to the Rest, thereby maximizing corporate profits, while opening the borders of the West to the Rest to utterly destroy the prosperity of the Western peoples through the import of cheap labor.

    An intended result of the implementation of this policy has been the destruction the fertility of the Western nations through sharp reductions in incomes and a huge increase in competition for living space, particularly housing. Then, just to be quite sure, there's compulsory sex "education" whereby adult teachers, perverts all, one has to assume, teach elementary school kids buggery and how to suck cock.

    The objective, clearly is genocide.

    So what to do?

    Use the machinery of fake democracy and make it into a real democracy by mobilizing the blue collar and lower middle classes politically. That's what Hitler did, it's what Donald Trump has done.

    What remains to be seen is what Trump will do with the power he has acquired. His relationship with the conflicting parties, the Jews and other elements of the Money Power on the one hand, and America's blue collar class on the other hand is interesting.

    Trump is, so it has been claimed, of Jewish extraction, which seems likely, and his daughter is Jewish by conversion. So Trump is clearly in the Jewish camp. However, Trump's mother, née Mary Anne McLeod, was a pure-blooded Celt, born on the Island of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides of Scotland. Moreover, Trump gives every indication of loyalty and affection for his mother's people and perhaps, therefore, for the poor immigrants from all over Europe who created the American settler state and whose descendants make up the majority of America's oppressed blue collar class.

    Certainly, it was his appeal to the blue collar class, white, black and khaki, that won Trump election and it will be his ability to deliver on his promises to them that the success or failure of his presidency will be judged. Which raises the question, how does Trump resolve his commitments to both Jewish interests and white American interests?

    It seems to me that the only possible resolution is by (a) working to strengthen Israel as the permanent, and permanently secure, home of the Jews, while (b) adopting an America first immigration and trade policy.

    This, it seems to me, could work. It creates conditions for the restoration of the fertility of EuroAmericans, while encouraging American Jews either to emigrate to Israel or become America Firsters not American traitors.

    The big losers are (1) the neoCons and their media and Congressional ilk who will never get over the lost opportunity to use America as the tool with which to conquer to world for Jewish Money-Power-mediated world supremacy; (2) the Palestinians.

    It seems to me that Palestine is lost to the Palestinians, just as a large chunk of the West may already have been lost to the Third World. However, there are less than five million Palestinians in Israel and the occupied territories, and their fate can be greatly improved in at least two ways.

    First, the West might provide a preferential immigration policy for Palestinians, of whom many, and one would hope virtually all, would move to Europe, North America, Latin America, and Australia, where they would no doubt prosper and, furthermore, provide some counterbalance to undue Jewish influence in the West.

    Second, the West might seek a deal with one of the North African states to transfer to the Palestinians 20,000 km2 of territory to build New Palestine, in return for which the Western nations would pay something like $20 billion for the land. This presumably would be mostly unoccupied desert, so a price of $10,000 per hectare would seem reasonable although there would be additional payment for existing improvements. In addition, the West would commit to investing $1 trillion over ten years, this cash to be split equally between New Palestine and the country selling the territory. This investment, a rather trivial amount relative to, say, the US military budget, would go for massive solar-powered water desalination plants, cropland and urban infrastructure development.

    Might not Egypt buy into such a project? Would it not be a terrific deal to grant one third of the Sinai to the Palestinians, while seeing two-thirds of the Sinai developed as a high tech urban/agricultural zone accommodating millions of Egypt's teaming masses in cities of superb architectural design, equipped with among the world's the finest educational and research facilities, and surrounded by thousands of square kilometers of the world's most advanced agricultural production systems?

    It seems to me that the only possible resolution is by (a) working to strengthen Israel as the permanent, and permanently secure, home of the Jews, while (b) adopting an America first immigration and trade policy.

    Agree.

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  153. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @CanSpeccy
    Rurik,

    I think you win the argument but lose the war.

    Just about everything said in the political realm is either an outright lie or a piece of stinking hypocrisy. But you cannot win the war by engaging in the debate.

    The US is, and always has been, a plutocracy with a democratic facade. Today, the majority of richest Americans are Jews, so Jews have a disproportionate influence over American policy, both domestic and foreign.

    That Jewish influence is mediated not only via Congress, the courts, and academia, but by way of a huge globe-spanning network of megaphones: the Western world's news media, book publishing, entertainments, pornography, and Internet-related industries.

    A primary objective of Jewish-influence is a global system dominated by the Money Power. That means off-shoring of manufacturing from the West to the Rest, thereby maximizing corporate profits, while opening the borders of the West to the Rest to utterly destroy the prosperity of the Western peoples through the import of cheap labor.

    An intended result of the implementation of this policy has been the destruction the fertility of the Western nations through sharp reductions in incomes and a huge increase in competition for living space, particularly housing. Then, just to be quite sure, there's compulsory sex "education" whereby adult teachers, perverts all, one has to assume, teach elementary school kids buggery and how to suck cock.

    The objective, clearly is genocide.

    So what to do?

    Use the machinery of fake democracy and make it into a real democracy by mobilizing the blue collar and lower middle classes politically. That's what Hitler did, it's what Donald Trump has done.

    What remains to be seen is what Trump will do with the power he has acquired. His relationship with the conflicting parties, the Jews and other elements of the Money Power on the one hand, and America's blue collar class on the other hand is interesting.

    Trump is, so it has been claimed, of Jewish extraction, which seems likely, and his daughter is Jewish by conversion. So Trump is clearly in the Jewish camp. However, Trump's mother, née Mary Anne McLeod, was a pure-blooded Celt, born on the Island of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides of Scotland. Moreover, Trump gives every indication of loyalty and affection for his mother's people and perhaps, therefore, for the poor immigrants from all over Europe who created the American settler state and whose descendants make up the majority of America's oppressed blue collar class.

    Certainly, it was his appeal to the blue collar class, white, black and khaki, that won Trump election and it will be his ability to deliver on his promises to them that the success or failure of his presidency will be judged. Which raises the question, how does Trump resolve his commitments to both Jewish interests and white American interests?

    It seems to me that the only possible resolution is by (a) working to strengthen Israel as the permanent, and permanently secure, home of the Jews, while (b) adopting an America first immigration and trade policy.

    This, it seems to me, could work. It creates conditions for the restoration of the fertility of EuroAmericans, while encouraging American Jews either to emigrate to Israel or become America Firsters not American traitors.

    The big losers are (1) the neoCons and their media and Congressional ilk who will never get over the lost opportunity to use America as the tool with which to conquer to world for Jewish Money-Power-mediated world supremacy; (2) the Palestinians.

    It seems to me that Palestine is lost to the Palestinians, just as a large chunk of the West may already have been lost to the Third World. However, there are less than five million Palestinians in Israel and the occupied territories, and their fate can be greatly improved in at least two ways.

    First, the West might provide a preferential immigration policy for Palestinians, of whom many, and one would hope virtually all, would move to Europe, North America, Latin America, and Australia, where they would no doubt prosper and, furthermore, provide some counterbalance to undue Jewish influence in the West.

    Second, the West might seek a deal with one of the North African states to transfer to the Palestinians 20,000 km2 of territory to build New Palestine, in return for which the Western nations would pay something like $20 billion for the land. This presumably would be mostly unoccupied desert, so a price of $10,000 per hectare would seem reasonable although there would be additional payment for existing improvements. In addition, the West would commit to investing $1 trillion over ten years, this cash to be split equally between New Palestine and the country selling the territory. This investment, a rather trivial amount relative to, say, the US military budget, would go for massive solar-powered water desalination plants, cropland and urban infrastructure development.

    Might not Egypt buy into such a project? Would it not be a terrific deal to grant one third of the Sinai to the Palestinians, while seeing two-thirds of the Sinai developed as a high tech urban/agricultural zone accommodating millions of Egypt's teaming masses in cities of superb architectural design, equipped with among the world's the finest educational and research facilities, and surrounded by thousands of square kilometers of the world's most advanced agricultural production systems?

    A primary objective of Jewish-influence is a global system dominated by the Money Power. That means off-shoring of manufacturing from the West to the Rest, thereby maximizing corporate profits, while opening the borders of the West to the Rest to utterly destroy the prosperity of the Western peoples through the import of cheap labor.

    Maximising corporate profits is a side-benefit. The main goal is to dis-empower the white race and prepare them for replacement. You should have recognised this when the talking heads invented the “empowerment” buzz-word. The NWO is not meant to deal with a 100+ IQ populace.

    Do you really believe that Soros is investing into third-wave feminism, abortion and borderless immigration (all designed to hurt the white race) to gain a monetary profit from it? For him, and his masters, the money is no object – it’s the water they breathe.

    “I fancied myself as some kind of god … If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble.“ When asked by Britain’s Independent newspaper to elaborate on that statement, Soros doubled down: “It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.“

    http://archive.is/Imj9Y

    Despite his reputation as an international philanthropist, Soros occasionally becomes candid about his real nature. “I am sort of a deus ex machina,” Soros told the New York Times in 1994. “I am something unnatural. I’m very comfortable with my public persona because it is one I have created for myself. It represents what I like to be as distinct from what I really am. You know, in my personal capacity I’m not actually a selfless philanthropic person. I’m very much self-centered.”

    http://archive.is/LRxHu

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  154. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy

    G’d is not the real-estate agent; he is the owner of all and gives a people what He feels they deserve.
     
    Sam,

    That old scoundrel Yahweh did not give Jews the Promised land, he told them to go steal it and kill every one of the original inhabitants:


    When the Lord your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you…you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them…. For they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods. Then the anger of the Lord will be kindled against you and He will quickly destroy you. But thus you shall do to them: You shall tear down their altars, and smash their sacred pillars, and hew down their Asherim, and burn their graven images with fire. (Deut. 7:1-5)
     

    Only in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes. But you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the Lord your God has commanded you, so that they may not teach you to do according to all their detestable things which they have done for their gods, so that you would sin against the Lord your God. (Deut. 20.16-18)
     

    Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” (1 Sam 15:2-3)
     
    Perhaps it is because Jews wish to keep an understanding of how evolution works to themselves that the Unz Review publishes Fred Reed's nonsense articles on the subject, while refusing to publish, or even to acknowledge receipt of, a rebuttal.

    You are interpreting my response on G’d gifts far too literally. As a practical matter, I believe a people which build the metropolis, invent the technologies, turn the desert bountiful and create a culture for their children to love, cherish, and nurture in the days ahead, own the land. Jews have lived there longer and more productively than any other. Now, that doesn’t forbid an accommodation for Palestinians, densely populated as the land is, but such a project demands a careful eye to separate the troublemakers from the worthy.

    I read through your piece criticising Fred, and of course, it succeeds as a valid criticism! But Fred wasn’t attempting to construct a general theory of Everything, was he? The man’s a mountebank and lives to push his readers. But whatever do you mean by Jews attempting to suppress the Theory of Evolution? Sorry mate, you lost me there.

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    But whatever do you mean by Jews attempting to suppress the Theory of Evolution?
     
    That's not exactly what I said. What I said was:

    Perhaps it is because Jews wish to keep an understanding of how evolution works to themselves that the Unz Review publishes Fred Reed’s nonsense articles on the subject.
     
    Even that, I admit, sounds slightly paranoid. But you have to admit that if my general thesis about the NWO being a largely Jewish Money Power project (and there is considerable substance to that contention, though of course not all Jews are on board, the late James Goldsmith to name but one of many), then an understanding of the elementary process of natural selection and the elementary math that underlies population replacement, is not something they (i.e., globalist, Money Power, New World Ordure Jews) would want ordinary folk to be thinking about as they, the above-mentioned Jews (working with miscellaneous others, including the indigenous treason class — as did many of the barons, more than a thousand years ago, when Alfred the Great was struggling to fend of the Viking invasion of England), go about the destruction of the European nation states, which represent the greatest impediment to the globalization project.

    Mostly, though, relating to the matter of Fred on Evolution, I simply don't understand, as someone who was a publisher for 25 years, Unz's policy of not acknowledging receipt of what I think was a competently organized article, especially as I have drawn it to his attention multiple times. What's the matter with the guy? He didn't have to accept it. He could have said "due to insufficient space, etc." or some other bullshit.

    As a practical matter, I believe a people which build the metropolis, invent the technologies, turn the desert bountiful and create a culture for their children to love, cherish, and nurture in the days ahead, own the land.
     
    That, to an evolutionist, is absolute twaddle. The inheritors of the earth are, for the most part, descendants of the most aggressive thieves, rapists, murderers, con artists, and honey-tongued manipulators. If the Jews manage to hold onto Palestine, I will be the first to admit that they won it fair as square. But to suggest that they deserved to own Palestine is to make a mockery of morality. Indeed, morality has no place whatever in assessing the behavior of competitive groups where winning means living to fight another day, and losing means extinction.
  155. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Maximising corporate profits is a side-benefit. The main goal is to dis-empower the white race and prepare them for replacement. You should have recognised this when the talking heads invented the “empowerment” buzz-word. The NWO is not meant to deal with a 100+ IQ populace.

    That seems pretty confused thinking. I’m sure that the globalist manipulators have no trouble with a 100+ IQ populace. Look at what they’ve done already to Sweden, Germany, France, Britain, and the US! All they have to do is buy the leadership, scum like the Blairs and Clintons who have made hundreds of millions out of political bribe-taking.

    The Money Power seeks to destroy the nation state, the more easily to incorporate the resultant racially and culturally incoherent post-national state into a global system, the strings of which can be pulled, unnoticed, by the Money Power.

    Do you really believe that Soros is investing into third-wave feminism, abortion and borderless immigration (all designed to hurt the white race) to gain a monetary profit from it?

    I am skeptical of your claim that Soros invests in any of those things. I strongly suspect that the senile old fool is merely a front for the CIA or some such agency. Do you really think he’d piss away his own money financing uppity blacks and bonkers women?

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    the globalist manipulators have no trouble with a 100+ IQ populace.
     
    But they do. The whole thing is getting wobbly and the only thing they know after passing 10 billion "dollars" is ecstasy and fear. "The things you own end up owning you".

    the senile old fool is merely a front for the CIA
     
    The CIA is working for his masters. Again, for them, it's not about the money. It's about power/fear.
    , @Anonymous

    I am skeptical of your claim that Soros invests in any of those things.
     
    Leaked George Soros Plan to Turn Ireland into a Pro-Abortion Country
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/01/leaked-george-soros-plan-to-turn-ireland-into-a-pro-abortion-country/)

    Soros Investing 500 million in migrants
    http://archive.is/nrMRC

    https://kek.gg/i/7zc4cN.png
  156. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Sam Shama
    You are interpreting my response on G'd gifts far too literally. As a practical matter, I believe a people which build the metropolis, invent the technologies, turn the desert bountiful and create a culture for their children to love, cherish, and nurture in the days ahead, own the land. Jews have lived there longer and more productively than any other. Now, that doesn't forbid an accommodation for Palestinians, densely populated as the land is, but such a project demands a careful eye to separate the troublemakers from the worthy.

    I read through your piece criticising Fred, and of course, it succeeds as a valid criticism! But Fred wasn't attempting to construct a general theory of Everything, was he? The man's a mountebank and lives to push his readers. But whatever do you mean by Jews attempting to suppress the Theory of Evolution? Sorry mate, you lost me there.

    But whatever do you mean by Jews attempting to suppress the Theory of Evolution?

    That’s not exactly what I said. What I said was:

    Perhaps it is because Jews wish to keep an understanding of how evolution works to themselves that the Unz Review publishes Fred Reed’s nonsense articles on the subject.

    Even that, I admit, sounds slightly paranoid. But you have to admit that if my general thesis about the NWO being a largely Jewish Money Power project (and there is considerable substance to that contention, though of course not all Jews are on board, the late James Goldsmith to name but one of many), then an understanding of the elementary process of natural selection and the elementary math that underlies population replacement, is not something they (i.e., globalist, Money Power, New World Ordure Jews) would want ordinary folk to be thinking about as they, the above-mentioned Jews (working with miscellaneous others, including the indigenous treason class — as did many of the barons, more than a thousand years ago, when Alfred the Great was struggling to fend of the Viking invasion of England), go about the destruction of the European nation states, which represent the greatest impediment to the globalization project.

    Mostly, though, relating to the matter of Fred on Evolution, I simply don’t understand, as someone who was a publisher for 25 years, Unz’s policy of not acknowledging receipt of what I think was a competently organized article, especially as I have drawn it to his attention multiple times. What’s the matter with the guy? He didn’t have to accept it. He could have said “due to insufficient space, etc.” or some other bullshit.

    As a practical matter, I believe a people which build the metropolis, invent the technologies, turn the desert bountiful and create a culture for their children to love, cherish, and nurture in the days ahead, own the land.

    That, to an evolutionist, is absolute twaddle. The inheritors of the earth are, for the most part, descendants of the most aggressive thieves, rapists, murderers, con artists, and honey-tongued manipulators. If the Jews manage to hold onto Palestine, I will be the first to admit that they won it fair as square. But to suggest that they deserved to own Palestine is to make a mockery of morality. Indeed, morality has no place whatever in assessing the behavior of competitive groups where winning means living to fight another day, and losing means extinction.

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    Building, inventing, innovating, cultivating, loving the land, have precious nothing to do with morality.
  157. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @CanSpeccy

    Maximising corporate profits is a side-benefit. The main goal is to dis-empower the white race and prepare them for replacement. You should have recognised this when the talking heads invented the “empowerment” buzz-word. The NWO is not meant to deal with a 100+ IQ populace.
     
    That seems pretty confused thinking. I'm sure that the globalist manipulators have no trouble with a 100+ IQ populace. Look at what they've done already to Sweden, Germany, France, Britain, and the US! All they have to do is buy the leadership, scum like the Blairs and Clintons who have made hundreds of millions out of political bribe-taking.

    The Money Power seeks to destroy the nation state, the more easily to incorporate the resultant racially and culturally incoherent post-national state into a global system, the strings of which can be pulled, unnoticed, by the Money Power.

    Do you really believe that Soros is investing into third-wave feminism, abortion and borderless immigration (all designed to hurt the white race) to gain a monetary profit from it?
     
    I am skeptical of your claim that Soros invests in any of those things. I strongly suspect that the senile old fool is merely a front for the CIA or some such agency. Do you really think he'd piss away his own money financing uppity blacks and bonkers women?

    the globalist manipulators have no trouble with a 100+ IQ populace.

    But they do. The whole thing is getting wobbly and the only thing they know after passing 10 billion “dollars” is ecstasy and fear. “The things you own end up owning you”.

    the senile old fool is merely a front for the CIA

    The CIA is working for his masters. Again, for them, it’s not about the money. It’s about power/fear.

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  158. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @CanSpeccy

    Maximising corporate profits is a side-benefit. The main goal is to dis-empower the white race and prepare them for replacement. You should have recognised this when the talking heads invented the “empowerment” buzz-word. The NWO is not meant to deal with a 100+ IQ populace.
     
    That seems pretty confused thinking. I'm sure that the globalist manipulators have no trouble with a 100+ IQ populace. Look at what they've done already to Sweden, Germany, France, Britain, and the US! All they have to do is buy the leadership, scum like the Blairs and Clintons who have made hundreds of millions out of political bribe-taking.

    The Money Power seeks to destroy the nation state, the more easily to incorporate the resultant racially and culturally incoherent post-national state into a global system, the strings of which can be pulled, unnoticed, by the Money Power.

    Do you really believe that Soros is investing into third-wave feminism, abortion and borderless immigration (all designed to hurt the white race) to gain a monetary profit from it?
     
    I am skeptical of your claim that Soros invests in any of those things. I strongly suspect that the senile old fool is merely a front for the CIA or some such agency. Do you really think he'd piss away his own money financing uppity blacks and bonkers women?

    I am skeptical of your claim that Soros invests in any of those things.

    Leaked George Soros Plan to Turn Ireland into a Pro-Abortion Country

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/01/leaked-george-soros-plan-to-turn-ireland-into-a-pro-abortion-country/)

    Soros Investing 500 million in migrants

    http://archive.is/nrMRC

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    I don't question that much money is being spent in Soros's name to undermine the Western nations and to destroy Western civilization. I just question whether money spent in Soros's name is really Soros's money rather than US taxpayers's money for the illegal disbursement of which Soros provides the cover. Soros is rich, but you don't destroy a civilization with an annual tithe on twenty billion, or whatever Soros is worth.
  159. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy

    But whatever do you mean by Jews attempting to suppress the Theory of Evolution?
     
    That's not exactly what I said. What I said was:

    Perhaps it is because Jews wish to keep an understanding of how evolution works to themselves that the Unz Review publishes Fred Reed’s nonsense articles on the subject.
     
    Even that, I admit, sounds slightly paranoid. But you have to admit that if my general thesis about the NWO being a largely Jewish Money Power project (and there is considerable substance to that contention, though of course not all Jews are on board, the late James Goldsmith to name but one of many), then an understanding of the elementary process of natural selection and the elementary math that underlies population replacement, is not something they (i.e., globalist, Money Power, New World Ordure Jews) would want ordinary folk to be thinking about as they, the above-mentioned Jews (working with miscellaneous others, including the indigenous treason class — as did many of the barons, more than a thousand years ago, when Alfred the Great was struggling to fend of the Viking invasion of England), go about the destruction of the European nation states, which represent the greatest impediment to the globalization project.

    Mostly, though, relating to the matter of Fred on Evolution, I simply don't understand, as someone who was a publisher for 25 years, Unz's policy of not acknowledging receipt of what I think was a competently organized article, especially as I have drawn it to his attention multiple times. What's the matter with the guy? He didn't have to accept it. He could have said "due to insufficient space, etc." or some other bullshit.

    As a practical matter, I believe a people which build the metropolis, invent the technologies, turn the desert bountiful and create a culture for their children to love, cherish, and nurture in the days ahead, own the land.
     
    That, to an evolutionist, is absolute twaddle. The inheritors of the earth are, for the most part, descendants of the most aggressive thieves, rapists, murderers, con artists, and honey-tongued manipulators. If the Jews manage to hold onto Palestine, I will be the first to admit that they won it fair as square. But to suggest that they deserved to own Palestine is to make a mockery of morality. Indeed, morality has no place whatever in assessing the behavior of competitive groups where winning means living to fight another day, and losing means extinction.

    Building, inventing, innovating, cultivating, loving the land, have precious nothing to do with morality.

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    Building, inventing, innovating, cultivating, loving the land, have precious nothing to do with morality.
     
    moderators, please only make this picture available by clicking on the link

    >>warning<<

    http://www.blogblick.de/Israel/pics%20Gaza%20Strip/GazaChild%20large4.jpg

    this is how the Zionists love and cultivate and show their 'shining light unto the nations... "morality"
    , @CanSpeccy

    Building, inventing, innovating, cultivating, loving the land, have precious nothing to do with morality.
     
    No, but when you say:

    I believe a people which build the metropolis, invent the technologies, turn the desert bountiful and create a culture for their children to love, cherish, and nurture in the days ahead, own the land.
     
    You inject your own morality with an implicit "should."
  160. Rurik says:
    @CanSpeccy
    Rurik,

    I think you win the argument but lose the war.

    Just about everything said in the political realm is either an outright lie or a piece of stinking hypocrisy. But you cannot win the war by engaging in the debate.

    The US is, and always has been, a plutocracy with a democratic facade. Today, the majority of richest Americans are Jews, so Jews have a disproportionate influence over American policy, both domestic and foreign.

    That Jewish influence is mediated not only via Congress, the courts, and academia, but by way of a huge globe-spanning network of megaphones: the Western world's news media, book publishing, entertainments, pornography, and Internet-related industries.

    A primary objective of Jewish-influence is a global system dominated by the Money Power. That means off-shoring of manufacturing from the West to the Rest, thereby maximizing corporate profits, while opening the borders of the West to the Rest to utterly destroy the prosperity of the Western peoples through the import of cheap labor.

    An intended result of the implementation of this policy has been the destruction the fertility of the Western nations through sharp reductions in incomes and a huge increase in competition for living space, particularly housing. Then, just to be quite sure, there's compulsory sex "education" whereby adult teachers, perverts all, one has to assume, teach elementary school kids buggery and how to suck cock.

    The objective, clearly is genocide.

    So what to do?

    Use the machinery of fake democracy and make it into a real democracy by mobilizing the blue collar and lower middle classes politically. That's what Hitler did, it's what Donald Trump has done.

    What remains to be seen is what Trump will do with the power he has acquired. His relationship with the conflicting parties, the Jews and other elements of the Money Power on the one hand, and America's blue collar class on the other hand is interesting.

    Trump is, so it has been claimed, of Jewish extraction, which seems likely, and his daughter is Jewish by conversion. So Trump is clearly in the Jewish camp. However, Trump's mother, née Mary Anne McLeod, was a pure-blooded Celt, born on the Island of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides of Scotland. Moreover, Trump gives every indication of loyalty and affection for his mother's people and perhaps, therefore, for the poor immigrants from all over Europe who created the American settler state and whose descendants make up the majority of America's oppressed blue collar class.

    Certainly, it was his appeal to the blue collar class, white, black and khaki, that won Trump election and it will be his ability to deliver on his promises to them that the success or failure of his presidency will be judged. Which raises the question, how does Trump resolve his commitments to both Jewish interests and white American interests?

    It seems to me that the only possible resolution is by (a) working to strengthen Israel as the permanent, and permanently secure, home of the Jews, while (b) adopting an America first immigration and trade policy.

    This, it seems to me, could work. It creates conditions for the restoration of the fertility of EuroAmericans, while encouraging American Jews either to emigrate to Israel or become America Firsters not American traitors.

    The big losers are (1) the neoCons and their media and Congressional ilk who will never get over the lost opportunity to use America as the tool with which to conquer to world for Jewish Money-Power-mediated world supremacy; (2) the Palestinians.

    It seems to me that Palestine is lost to the Palestinians, just as a large chunk of the West may already have been lost to the Third World. However, there are less than five million Palestinians in Israel and the occupied territories, and their fate can be greatly improved in at least two ways.

    First, the West might provide a preferential immigration policy for Palestinians, of whom many, and one would hope virtually all, would move to Europe, North America, Latin America, and Australia, where they would no doubt prosper and, furthermore, provide some counterbalance to undue Jewish influence in the West.

    Second, the West might seek a deal with one of the North African states to transfer to the Palestinians 20,000 km2 of territory to build New Palestine, in return for which the Western nations would pay something like $20 billion for the land. This presumably would be mostly unoccupied desert, so a price of $10,000 per hectare would seem reasonable although there would be additional payment for existing improvements. In addition, the West would commit to investing $1 trillion over ten years, this cash to be split equally between New Palestine and the country selling the territory. This investment, a rather trivial amount relative to, say, the US military budget, would go for massive solar-powered water desalination plants, cropland and urban infrastructure development.

    Might not Egypt buy into such a project? Would it not be a terrific deal to grant one third of the Sinai to the Palestinians, while seeing two-thirds of the Sinai developed as a high tech urban/agricultural zone accommodating millions of Egypt's teaming masses in cities of superb architectural design, equipped with among the world's the finest educational and research facilities, and surrounded by thousands of square kilometers of the world's most advanced agricultural production systems?

    Just about everything said in the political realm is either an outright lie or a piece of stinking hypocrisy. But you cannot win the war by engaging in the debate

    it’s enough for me to tell the simple truth. I don’t expect that to win any wars, but it’s cathartic for me, and at least I’m one more voice exposing the devil’s lies.

    The objective, clearly is genocide.

    So what to do?

    yep

    and good question…

    What remains to be seen is what Trump will do with the power he has acquired. His relationship with the conflicting parties, the Jews and other elements of the Money Power on the one hand, and America’s blue collar class on the other hand is interesting.

    very much so

    Which raises the question, how does Trump resolve his commitments to both Jewish interests and white American interests?

    extremely salient question indeed, since they seem to be mutually exclusive

    It seems to me that the only possible resolution is by (a) working to strengthen Israel as the permanent, and permanently secure, home of the Jews, while (b) adopting an America first immigration and trade policy.

    sounds good, but the only problems is that the US gov is already doing everything it can to bolster Israel’s fortunes in any way that it can. Billions of dollars in aid, any military aid they ask for, running cover at the UN, giving them white phosphorus to use on Gaza, and basically anything Israel wants.

    So now what Israel has been demanding is that the US also destroy all the countries in the Middle East and elsewhere who don’t bow down to Jewish supremacist money power. And so we’ve been doing that, spending trillion$ slaughtering and murdering and maiming millions of men, women and children, just like those Old Testament quotes you provided.

    But it’s not enough. We have to finish off Syria. They want the Golan Heights and they will force a nuclear war with Russia (and the US of course! the cowards don’t like to fight their own wars) in order to steal it.

    And that’s where we’re at.

    This, it seems to me, could work. It creates conditions for the restoration of the fertility of EuroAmericans, while encouraging American Jews either to emigrate to Israel or become America Firsters not American traitors.

    there’s something I don’t think you understand. Sure they hate the Muslims and they privately mock the schwarzes as sub-humans. But who they really hate are the white Europeans. Or, more specifically, the white European men who shut down their brothels in Berlin, which were full of white European children. So under some circumstances, they’re quite fond of white flesh, but not the kind that is filled with the blood and vigor of Europe’s ancestors. Which always puts the kibosh on their party. That kind of white, European they want dead and in the grave (or at least with a boot stamping on his face). And it’s a manifest obsession. They don’t take a breath that isn’t full to the brim with pure hatred for straight-standing white men. Make no mistake, we’re all nothing but dormant Nazis to them, and they want us all marginalized and emasculated more than even their hatred for Muslims. Whom they always use to destroy white societies, going all the way back to Moorish Spain, where the Jews opened the gates to hundreds of years of slavery, genocide and oppression.

    If they could do the same to every last bastion of white civilization, do you think they’d hesitate for a second?

    Even, I suspect, (because their hatred is that all-consuming), even if it meant their own destruction. They’re like the blacks in Zimbabwe, (or the scorpion with the frog) who have made it clear that even if it means they’ll starve, they don’t care. They still demand the end of white existence from their purview.

    to really understand how much they hate us, just consider the case of Channon Christian, (or that twelve year old boy who was burned alive with a blowtorch – that no one has heard of).

    when certain types of crimes happen, and they’re obviously racially charged, you can glimmer a lot about our ((media masters)) by how they cover such stories. When white men (don’t) gang rape a black girl at Duke, it’s headline news from the length and breath of their bullhorns and newspapers. It’s on TV and politicians and university deans and everywhere there is hysteria and “outrage!”

    Same for Travon or Michael Brown or any other non-crime that can be hysterically used to demonize whites as murderous racists…

    but let some white girl (named Christian!) watch her boyfriend raped and tortured to death, and then set on fire, only as the horrifying prologue for what she’s about to endure, for many hours, until she was stuffed in a garbage bag and slowly suffocated to death. And there’s silence.

    deathly silence

    yet I hear a thunderous meaning coming from that silence, and it says to me…

    ‘we like what happened to those white racists and anti-Semites’

    ‘we even get off on that kind of thing’

    that’s what I hear, loud and clear.

    and, that they’d like to see a lot more of that kind of ‘justice’, as they see it.

    OR, they’d report on it. Wouldn’t they? And the reason they don’t report on it…. is because by doing so, it might make the next white couple a tiny bit more suspicious of the diversity around them, and that such events would then be a little less frequent. Like the Wichita massacre for instance. So, they hush up such crimes, because they obviously want to see more of them. Duh.

    And that is why I can’t get behind your idea that they’d ever be sanguine about creating “conditions for the restoration of the fertility of EuroAmericans”.

    before they’d allow that, they see Israel pushed into the sea. They’d see a nuclear holocaust that would destroy all life on this planet, before they’d ever sign off on a future where they share the planet with thriving and ascendant ‘Nazis and Christians. (redundant from their point of view)

    perhaps I’m wrong about that, but I feel I can glimmer much more what people don’t say, (by their booming silence) than by what they do say [usually lies ; ]

    since this post is getting too long, I’m going to reply to the rest of your fine comment in another post…

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  161. Rurik says:
    @CanSpeccy
    Rurik,

    I think you win the argument but lose the war.

    Just about everything said in the political realm is either an outright lie or a piece of stinking hypocrisy. But you cannot win the war by engaging in the debate.

    The US is, and always has been, a plutocracy with a democratic facade. Today, the majority of richest Americans are Jews, so Jews have a disproportionate influence over American policy, both domestic and foreign.

    That Jewish influence is mediated not only via Congress, the courts, and academia, but by way of a huge globe-spanning network of megaphones: the Western world's news media, book publishing, entertainments, pornography, and Internet-related industries.

    A primary objective of Jewish-influence is a global system dominated by the Money Power. That means off-shoring of manufacturing from the West to the Rest, thereby maximizing corporate profits, while opening the borders of the West to the Rest to utterly destroy the prosperity of the Western peoples through the import of cheap labor.

    An intended result of the implementation of this policy has been the destruction the fertility of the Western nations through sharp reductions in incomes and a huge increase in competition for living space, particularly housing. Then, just to be quite sure, there's compulsory sex "education" whereby adult teachers, perverts all, one has to assume, teach elementary school kids buggery and how to suck cock.

    The objective, clearly is genocide.

    So what to do?

    Use the machinery of fake democracy and make it into a real democracy by mobilizing the blue collar and lower middle classes politically. That's what Hitler did, it's what Donald Trump has done.

    What remains to be seen is what Trump will do with the power he has acquired. His relationship with the conflicting parties, the Jews and other elements of the Money Power on the one hand, and America's blue collar class on the other hand is interesting.

    Trump is, so it has been claimed, of Jewish extraction, which seems likely, and his daughter is Jewish by conversion. So Trump is clearly in the Jewish camp. However, Trump's mother, née Mary Anne McLeod, was a pure-blooded Celt, born on the Island of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides of Scotland. Moreover, Trump gives every indication of loyalty and affection for his mother's people and perhaps, therefore, for the poor immigrants from all over Europe who created the American settler state and whose descendants make up the majority of America's oppressed blue collar class.

    Certainly, it was his appeal to the blue collar class, white, black and khaki, that won Trump election and it will be his ability to deliver on his promises to them that the success or failure of his presidency will be judged. Which raises the question, how does Trump resolve his commitments to both Jewish interests and white American interests?

    It seems to me that the only possible resolution is by (a) working to strengthen Israel as the permanent, and permanently secure, home of the Jews, while (b) adopting an America first immigration and trade policy.

    This, it seems to me, could work. It creates conditions for the restoration of the fertility of EuroAmericans, while encouraging American Jews either to emigrate to Israel or become America Firsters not American traitors.

    The big losers are (1) the neoCons and their media and Congressional ilk who will never get over the lost opportunity to use America as the tool with which to conquer to world for Jewish Money-Power-mediated world supremacy; (2) the Palestinians.

    It seems to me that Palestine is lost to the Palestinians, just as a large chunk of the West may already have been lost to the Third World. However, there are less than five million Palestinians in Israel and the occupied territories, and their fate can be greatly improved in at least two ways.

    First, the West might provide a preferential immigration policy for Palestinians, of whom many, and one would hope virtually all, would move to Europe, North America, Latin America, and Australia, where they would no doubt prosper and, furthermore, provide some counterbalance to undue Jewish influence in the West.

    Second, the West might seek a deal with one of the North African states to transfer to the Palestinians 20,000 km2 of territory to build New Palestine, in return for which the Western nations would pay something like $20 billion for the land. This presumably would be mostly unoccupied desert, so a price of $10,000 per hectare would seem reasonable although there would be additional payment for existing improvements. In addition, the West would commit to investing $1 trillion over ten years, this cash to be split equally between New Palestine and the country selling the territory. This investment, a rather trivial amount relative to, say, the US military budget, would go for massive solar-powered water desalination plants, cropland and urban infrastructure development.

    Might not Egypt buy into such a project? Would it not be a terrific deal to grant one third of the Sinai to the Palestinians, while seeing two-thirds of the Sinai developed as a high tech urban/agricultural zone accommodating millions of Egypt's teaming masses in cities of superb architectural design, equipped with among the world's the finest educational and research facilities, and surrounded by thousands of square kilometers of the world's most advanced agricultural production systems?

    American Jews either to emigrate to Israel or become America Firsters not American traitors.

    are you j0king?

    the history of ‘the Jews’ is long and storied. When during that history have the Jews ever been loyal to their host Gentiles, over the interests of ‘the tribe’?

    a few individuals perhaps, for sure. (am I the only one who sees shades of Roy Cohn in Steven Miller?)

    but on the whole, they’ll never be able to forsake the Sandra Bernhard, George Soros wing of their DNA. It’s too hardwired. I’d like to think you’re right, but alas, I fear that is just too Pollyanna.

    The big losers are (1) the neoCons and their media and Congressional ilk who will never get over the lost opportunity to use America as the tool with which to conquer to world for Jewish Money-Power-mediated world supremacy; (2) the Palestinians.

    so you think they’d make common cause with David Duke if they could finally get rid of the Pals?

    whitey could once again be ascendant and hopeful and thrive and prosper and frolic in the meadows of America…

    no longer a murderous racist to his core, but now a loving, wonderful partner in a new and shinning America with a white future?

    lol

    ((They’d)) rather have Armageddon

    It seems to me that Palestine is lost to the Palestinians, just as a large chunk of the West may already have been lost to the Third World.

    I suspect that inadvertently (a Freudian slip?) you’ve noticed a common thread. We in the West can not sacrifice the Palestinians to the pyres of Moloch in order to buy our future from the Fiend.

    our fates are intertwined. We are- both of us groups, the Palestinians and the white race- being genocided by the very same Fiend, and it will not be sated with a few Arab lives or ethnic cleansing. No. In fact it will never be sated, ever. Indeed, with every feast it slathers down its gapping maw, it grows more and more hungry. Its appetite increases with every nation ground into the dirt and millions of lives destroyed. It is a drooling beast with a life of its own, and the more you feed it, the more murderous and demonic it becomes. You can’t make deals with it, and say, ‘how bout we give you the Palestinians?’, will that sate your dripping maw for the moment’, and ‘sure’ it will answer, but by now if you don’t know that everything it says is a lie, then you don’t know the Fiend.

    First, the West might provide a preferential immigration policy for Palestinians, of whom many, and one would hope virtually all, would move to Europe, North America, Latin America, and Australia, where they would no doubt prosper and, furthermore, provide some counterbalance to undue Jewish influence in the West.

    now you’re being silly

    a counterbalance? The Palestinian diaspora? lol

    Second, the West might seek a deal with one of the North African states to transfer to the Palestinians 20,000 km2 of territory to build New Palestine, in return for which the Western nations would pay something like $20 billion for the land.

    you really don’t understand them do you?

    if the world agreed tomorrow to resettle every single Palestinian into Norway, and gave Israel the Golan Heights and even vouchsafed Greater Israel to the world’s Jews, ‘from the Nile to the Euphrates’, and funded the rebuilding of the third temple on the Temple Mount, and got down on their hands and knees and licked their feet clean….

    that would only embolden them, and they’d demand more. That’s their nature my friend. And I suspect that the more honest among them would even admit it.

    In fact it was a Jew himself- Benjamin Freedman- who opened my eyes, and gave me the red pill.

    No, what the world’s people need to do, is realize that we’re all in this together. We all need to repudiate the war pigs and criminals. We need to find a way to send Tony Blair to the Hague, and then the rest of them.

    We need to protect the lives and futures of the Palestinian people more than anyone else. They are our canary in the global coal mine, and as they go, so too will we.

    We need to leash the Fiend, not feed it.

    will that be possible?

    only when enough of the world’s people understand what is going on. Only when the movement to audit the Fed (the fount of their demonic power) gains sufficient grass-roots support that we can finally wrest control of our governments back from the money boyz.

    what we must not do, is toss the Palestinians under the bus. Not only would that be a sin, but you don’t free yourself from a Fiend by handing it someone weaker. You make common cause with all the victims of the Fiend, and together you stand united against it.

    IMHO

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    IMHO
     
    IMHO, I suspect you're right.

    I tried to visualize a settlement of the Israel/Palestine conflict that, by securing Israel, could end the Money Power war on the Western nations. But my proposal has the fatal flaw that it leaves the Money Power and its drive for global domination intact and in control of the US Government.

    But if that's the case, where does Trump stand? Is he just a floundering fool, a Money Power puppet, or is he, as some may have supposed, a genuine nation-state conservative? And if the latter, what is his plan for the survival of the American nation-state and its fast declining European majority.
  162. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama
    Building, inventing, innovating, cultivating, loving the land, have precious nothing to do with morality.

    Building, inventing, innovating, cultivating, loving the land, have precious nothing to do with morality.

    moderators, please only make this picture available by clicking on the link

    >>warning<<

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    this is how the Zionists love and cultivate and show their 'shining light unto the nations… "morality"

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  163. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Sam Shama
    Building, inventing, innovating, cultivating, loving the land, have precious nothing to do with morality.

    Building, inventing, innovating, cultivating, loving the land, have precious nothing to do with morality.

    No, but when you say:

    I believe a people which build the metropolis, invent the technologies, turn the desert bountiful and create a culture for their children to love, cherish, and nurture in the days ahead, own the land.

    You inject your own morality with an implicit “should.”

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    Wittgenstein is my guide here, and, if I wanted I would've inserted the "should". It is a definitive "own".
  164. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    I am skeptical of your claim that Soros invests in any of those things.
     
    Leaked George Soros Plan to Turn Ireland into a Pro-Abortion Country
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/01/leaked-george-soros-plan-to-turn-ireland-into-a-pro-abortion-country/)

    Soros Investing 500 million in migrants
    http://archive.is/nrMRC

    https://kek.gg/i/7zc4cN.png

    I don’t question that much money is being spent in Soros’s name to undermine the Western nations and to destroy Western civilization. I just question whether money spent in Soros’s name is really Soros’s money rather than US taxpayers’s money for the illegal disbursement of which Soros provides the cover. Soros is rich, but you don’t destroy a civilization with an annual tithe on twenty billion, or whatever Soros is worth.

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  165. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rurik

    American Jews either to emigrate to Israel or become America Firsters not American traitors.
     
    are you j0king?

    the history of 'the Jews' is long and storied. When during that history have the Jews ever been loyal to their host Gentiles, over the interests of 'the tribe'?

    a few individuals perhaps, for sure. (am I the only one who sees shades of Roy Cohn in Steven Miller?)

    but on the whole, they'll never be able to forsake the Sandra Bernhard, George Soros wing of their DNA. It's too hardwired. I'd like to think you're right, but alas, I fear that is just too Pollyanna.

    The big losers are (1) the neoCons and their media and Congressional ilk who will never get over the lost opportunity to use America as the tool with which to conquer to world for Jewish Money-Power-mediated world supremacy; (2) the Palestinians.
     
    so you think they'd make common cause with David Duke if they could finally get rid of the Pals?

    whitey could once again be ascendant and hopeful and thrive and prosper and frolic in the meadows of America...

    no longer a murderous racist to his core, but now a loving, wonderful partner in a new and shinning America with a white future?

    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9pcj8TJpB1r48hglo1_1280.jpg

    lol

    ((They'd)) rather have Armageddon

    It seems to me that Palestine is lost to the Palestinians, just as a large chunk of the West may already have been lost to the Third World.
     
    I suspect that inadvertently (a Freudian slip?) you've noticed a common thread. We in the West can not sacrifice the Palestinians to the pyres of Moloch in order to buy our future from the Fiend.

    our fates are intertwined. We are- both of us groups, the Palestinians and the white race- being genocided by the very same Fiend, and it will not be sated with a few Arab lives or ethnic cleansing. No. In fact it will never be sated, ever. Indeed, with every feast it slathers down its gapping maw, it grows more and more hungry. Its appetite increases with every nation ground into the dirt and millions of lives destroyed. It is a drooling beast with a life of its own, and the more you feed it, the more murderous and demonic it becomes. You can't make deals with it, and say, 'how bout we give you the Palestinians?', will that sate your dripping maw for the moment', and 'sure' it will answer, but by now if you don't know that everything it says is a lie, then you don't know the Fiend.

    First, the West might provide a preferential immigration policy for Palestinians, of whom many, and one would hope virtually all, would move to Europe, North America, Latin America, and Australia, where they would no doubt prosper and, furthermore, provide some counterbalance to undue Jewish influence in the West.
     
    now you're being silly

    a counterbalance? The Palestinian diaspora? lol

    Second, the West might seek a deal with one of the North African states to transfer to the Palestinians 20,000 km2 of territory to build New Palestine, in return for which the Western nations would pay something like $20 billion for the land.
     
    you really don't understand them do you?

    if the world agreed tomorrow to resettle every single Palestinian into Norway, and gave Israel the Golan Heights and even vouchsafed Greater Israel to the world's Jews, 'from the Nile to the Euphrates', and funded the rebuilding of the third temple on the Temple Mount, and got down on their hands and knees and licked their feet clean....

    that would only embolden them, and they'd demand more. That's their nature my friend. And I suspect that the more honest among them would even admit it.

    In fact it was a Jew himself- Benjamin Freedman- who opened my eyes, and gave me the red pill.

    No, what the world's people need to do, is realize that we're all in this together. We all need to repudiate the war pigs and criminals. We need to find a way to send Tony Blair to the Hague, and then the rest of them.

    We need to protect the lives and futures of the Palestinian people more than anyone else. They are our canary in the global coal mine, and as they go, so too will we.

    We need to leash the Fiend, not feed it.

    will that be possible?

    only when enough of the world's people understand what is going on. Only when the movement to audit the Fed (the fount of their demonic power) gains sufficient grass-roots support that we can finally wrest control of our governments back from the money boyz.

    what we must not do, is toss the Palestinians under the bus. Not only would that be a sin, but you don't free yourself from a Fiend by handing it someone weaker. You make common cause with all the victims of the Fiend, and together you stand united against it.

    IMHO

    IMHO

    IMHO, I suspect you’re right.

    I tried to visualize a settlement of the Israel/Palestine conflict that, by securing Israel, could end the Money Power war on the Western nations. But my proposal has the fatal flaw that it leaves the Money Power and its drive for global domination intact and in control of the US Government.

    But if that’s the case, where does Trump stand? Is he just a floundering fool, a Money Power puppet, or is he, as some may have supposed, a genuine nation-state conservative? And if the latter, what is his plan for the survival of the American nation-state and its fast declining European majority.

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  166. Rurik says:

    where does Trump stand? Is he just a floundering fool, a Money Power puppet, or is he, as some may have supposed, a genuine nation-state conservative? And if the latter, what is his plan for the survival of the American nation-state and its fast declining European majority

    IDK CanS,

    one thing I can tell you is that he’s better than Hillary would have been.

    OMG did we all dodge a bullet there!

    and I fear that if he ends up being really successful, that the deepstate will do something awful to fuck it all up. Perhaps the Fed can arrange for a stock market collapse, or some other trick.

    but for now, I still have hope, and that is an amazing thing in this day in age. When the Fiend is running around destroying nation after nation, and trying its level best to create hellish strife in the heart of Europe and in America’s heartland.

    if Trump can just keep the peace and keep the economy afloat, that’d perhaps be a miracle in itself

    cheers

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  167. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Look at this Headline from the BBC:

    A worrying statistic for the tech industry was revealed in freshly-released A-level data – only 9.8% of those completing a computing course were girls.

    Silly buggers. What’s worrying about the fact that many girls don’t want to do the same things as many boys want to do? Nothing, obvioulsy, unless your one of the perverts at Buggering British Children. Then you probably hate the fact that all little girls aren’t little boys.

    That Google is pushing the same bullshit that girls should differ in no way psychologically from boys and if they do its a problem to be fixed, is proof, if anyone needed it that, among other probably evil things, Google is a toxic propaganda agency.

    But the good news is that the moron Google CEO, Pichai, hasn’t resigned, despite being called a liar by the New York Times, so we can expect more stupidly bad PR from Google in the future, which will further damage their brand and warn people to avoid using their services.

    But anyway, what the Hell are Google doing with a male CEO? That sure sends a toxic message to every female in the land, at least according to the toxic message Google wishes you to swallow.

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  168. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Building, inventing, innovating, cultivating, loving the land, have precious nothing to do with morality.
     
    No, but when you say:

    I believe a people which build the metropolis, invent the technologies, turn the desert bountiful and create a culture for their children to love, cherish, and nurture in the days ahead, own the land.
     
    You inject your own morality with an implicit "should."

    Wittgenstein is my guide here, and, if I wanted I would’ve inserted the “should”. It is a definitive “own”.

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  169. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    Building, inventing, innovating, cultivating, loving the land, have precious nothing to do with morality.
     
    moderators, please only make this picture available by clicking on the link

    >>warning<<

    http://www.blogblick.de/Israel/pics%20Gaza%20Strip/GazaChild%20large4.jpg

    this is how the Zionists love and cultivate and show their 'shining light unto the nations... "morality"

    Photoshopped fake image.

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    Photoshopped fake image.
     
    nope

    the toddler's name is Sahar Salman Abu Namous

    http://www.boycottisrael.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/10559768_10152361491534442_384129395172316063_n.jpg

    here are more pictures of what the 'shining light unto nations' does to Palestinian children

    >>warning<<

    http://www.wewiv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/10406544_662928723815397_9125141051898966058_n.jpg

    https://electronicintifada.net/sites/default/files/styles/original_800w/public/2014-07/yq_00_5.jpg?itok=7BISTatQ&timestamp=1448949295

    http://www.wewiv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/10612597_662928707148732_7790192300294324572_n-300x225.jpg

    I don't know if this particular boy was specifically targeted or not, but we do know for a fact that the IDF (brave heroes) do target young boys all the time. Here's some boys who were murdered for playing on a beach.

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/17/article-2695793-1FB70E4C00000578-571_964x612.jpg
  170. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    It is a definitive “own”.

    Until someone definitively kicks them out, whereupon they will definitively not “own”, neither will they, according to you, have any moral claim to own, any more than the Palestinians who used to own and who planted the olive groves the Israelis have destroyed.

    So really, all you’re saying is that the Israelis hold the land by conquest and will continue to do so, until they don’t, what they built being, in fact, irrelevant as to the question of ownership or moral right.

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    So long as we debate the question of ownership, [a transient concept, as is everything under the Sun, given sufficient passage of time] there are essentially three aspects, (a) provenance or pedigree of claim, (b) labour, capital and nurture expended on it, and (c) ability to protect it and further the progress of economic endeavour for the world at large. On the first count, if you are of the people of the Book, the answer to that question is not sub-judice. Furthermore, recorded history of the past three centuries establishes unbroken Jewish presence in the land. True Palestinians are part of the land, but they must acquiesce to the sovereign. On the second count, the results are manifest. On the third, as with all things in life, it remains to be seen, but I like the chances.

    Perhaps you need to make up your mind as to which argument, standard-issue morality or labour-endeavour, you propose to use as lodestar when determining the ownership of nation-states. It appeared you weren't invoking standard-issue morality, yet when presented with an unambiguous assertion of its absence from this pen, you resort to morality or at least re-introduce it for reasons unknown! Nietzsche in Ecce Homo can help, but warning! He takes the reader on a sly trip.

    What you write:


    If the Jews manage to hold onto Palestine, I will be the first to admit that they won it fair as square. But to suggest that they deserved to own Palestine is to make a mockery of morality. Indeed, morality has no place whatever in assessing the behavior of competitive groups where winning means living to fight another day, and losing means extinction.
     
    is precisely the insight which might be further enhanced by Ecce Homo.
  171. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama
    Photoshopped fake image.

    Photoshopped fake image.

    nope

    the toddler’s name is Sahar Salman Abu Namous

    here are more pictures of what the ‘shining light unto nations’ does to Palestinian children

    >>warning<<

    https://electronicintifada.net/sites/default/files/styles/original_800w/public/2014-07/yq_00_5.jpg?itok=7BISTatQ&timestamp=1448949295

    I don't know if this particular boy was specifically targeted or not, but we do know for a fact that the IDF (brave heroes) do target young boys all the time. Here's some boys who were murdered for playing on a beach.

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  172. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy

    It is a definitive “own”.
     
    Until someone definitively kicks them out, whereupon they will definitively not “own”, neither will they, according to you, have any moral claim to own, any more than the Palestinians who used to own and who planted the olive groves the Israelis have destroyed.

    So really, all you're saying is that the Israelis hold the land by conquest and will continue to do so, until they don't, what they built being, in fact, irrelevant as to the question of ownership or moral right.

    So long as we debate the question of ownership, [a transient concept, as is everything under the Sun, given sufficient passage of time] there are essentially three aspects, (a) provenance or pedigree of claim, (b) labour, capital and nurture expended on it, and (c) ability to protect it and further the progress of economic endeavour for the world at large. On the first count, if you are of the people of the Book, the answer to that question is not sub-judice. Furthermore, recorded history of the past three centuries establishes unbroken Jewish presence in the land. True Palestinians are part of the land, but they must acquiesce to the sovereign. On the second count, the results are manifest. On the third, as with all things in life, it remains to be seen, but I like the chances.

    Perhaps you need to make up your mind as to which argument, standard-issue morality or labour-endeavour, you propose to use as lodestar when determining the ownership of nation-states. It appeared you weren’t invoking standard-issue morality, yet when presented with an unambiguous assertion of its absence from this pen, you resort to morality or at least re-introduce it for reasons unknown! Nietzsche in Ecce Homo can help, but warning! He takes the reader on a sly trip.

    What you write:

    If the Jews manage to hold onto Palestine, I will be the first to admit that they won it fair as square. But to suggest that they deserved to own Palestine is to make a mockery of morality. Indeed, morality has no place whatever in assessing the behavior of competitive groups where winning means living to fight another day, and losing means extinction.

    is precisely the insight which might be further enhanced by Ecce Homo.

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    is precisely the insight which might be further enhanced by Ecce Homo.
     
    It's hard to imagine any insight being enhanced by Nietzsche, or German philosophy in general, which reminds me both of this Monty Python sketch, and Ludwig Boltzmann's remarks on the subject:

    To go straight to the deepest depth, I went for Hegel; what unclear thoughtless flow of words I was to find there! My unlucky star led me from Hegel to Schopenhauer ... Even in Kant there were many things that I could grasp so little that given his general acuity of mind I almost suspected that he was pulling the reader's leg or was even an imposter.

    But at least Boltzmann did not have to contend with the loonie drivel of Martin Heidegger, which may have been even more obscure than Nietzsche at his raving looniest.

  173. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Sam Shama
    So long as we debate the question of ownership, [a transient concept, as is everything under the Sun, given sufficient passage of time] there are essentially three aspects, (a) provenance or pedigree of claim, (b) labour, capital and nurture expended on it, and (c) ability to protect it and further the progress of economic endeavour for the world at large. On the first count, if you are of the people of the Book, the answer to that question is not sub-judice. Furthermore, recorded history of the past three centuries establishes unbroken Jewish presence in the land. True Palestinians are part of the land, but they must acquiesce to the sovereign. On the second count, the results are manifest. On the third, as with all things in life, it remains to be seen, but I like the chances.

    Perhaps you need to make up your mind as to which argument, standard-issue morality or labour-endeavour, you propose to use as lodestar when determining the ownership of nation-states. It appeared you weren't invoking standard-issue morality, yet when presented with an unambiguous assertion of its absence from this pen, you resort to morality or at least re-introduce it for reasons unknown! Nietzsche in Ecce Homo can help, but warning! He takes the reader on a sly trip.

    What you write:


    If the Jews manage to hold onto Palestine, I will be the first to admit that they won it fair as square. But to suggest that they deserved to own Palestine is to make a mockery of morality. Indeed, morality has no place whatever in assessing the behavior of competitive groups where winning means living to fight another day, and losing means extinction.
     
    is precisely the insight which might be further enhanced by Ecce Homo.

    is precisely the insight which might be further enhanced by Ecce Homo.

    It’s hard to imagine any insight being enhanced by Nietzsche, or German philosophy in general, which reminds me both of this Monty Python sketch, and Ludwig Boltzmann’s remarks on the subject:

    To go straight to the deepest depth, I went for Hegel; what unclear thoughtless flow of words I was to find there! My unlucky star led me from Hegel to Schopenhauer … Even in Kant there were many things that I could grasp so little that given his general acuity of mind I almost suspected that he was pulling the reader’s leg or was even an imposter.

    But at least Boltzmann did not have to contend with the loonie drivel of Martin Heidegger, which may have been even more obscure than Nietzsche at his raving looniest.

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  174. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy

    is precisely the insight which might be further enhanced by Ecce Homo.
     
    It's hard to imagine any insight being enhanced by Nietzsche, or German philosophy in general, which reminds me both of this Monty Python sketch, and Ludwig Boltzmann's remarks on the subject:

    To go straight to the deepest depth, I went for Hegel; what unclear thoughtless flow of words I was to find there! My unlucky star led me from Hegel to Schopenhauer ... Even in Kant there were many things that I could grasp so little that given his general acuity of mind I almost suspected that he was pulling the reader's leg or was even an imposter.

    But at least Boltzmann did not have to contend with the loonie drivel of Martin Heidegger, which may have been even more obscure than Nietzsche at his raving looniest.

    hahahaaaa. Well done!

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  175. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Tucker Carlson: why Google is an evil company that cannot be trusted as a source of information:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APc68QzHl74

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  176. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @CanSpeccy
    If the globalist Money Power is so philanthropic in its intent, why are they pursuing the genocide of the European people through suppressed reproduction and mass replacement immigration.

    And the Pope, who you apparently revere, is a leader in this genocidal project, advocating a one-child policy for Europe (they practically have that in Germany, Poland and many other parts of Europe already) and attacking Trump with the "bridges not walls meme", while living behind a fucking great wall.

    I am sorry, but the preposterous drivel that you are spewing reveals either childish ignorance or vile dishonesty.

    I think you said in one of your comments that you had had “a short fuse”. I don’t see that you have changed from what I read of your intemperate language and ill considered snap judgments.

    You have not the slightest reason to suppose that I “revere” the Pope and in fact my atheist indifference to the core of his mission means that I am unaware of his one child policy for Europe. Actually I think you are making that up, presumably in a paddy after your short fuse ignited something.

    More embarrassing for you: you didn’t even sense the possibility of irony.

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    Say ANON, why do you think I should respond to insults from someone without a name?

    As for you're ignorance of the Pope's anti-reproductive policy for Europeans, why argue about it here? Why not demonstrate that you have an IQ at least slightly higher than that of a water melon by checking the news reports.

    Here I'll give you a start:

    From Voice of the Family an initiative of Catholic laity

    IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS: PAPAL SUPPORT FOR UN 2030 AGENDA POSES IMMEDIATE THREAT TO LIVES OF CHILDREN
  177. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @ANON
    I think you said in one of your comments that you had had "a short fuse". I don't see that you have changed from what I read of your intemperate language and ill considered snap judgments.

    You have not the slightest reason to suppose that I "revere" the Pope and in fact my atheist indifference to the core of his mission means that I am unaware of his one child policy for Europe. Actually I think you are making that up, presumably in a paddy after your short fuse ignited something.

    More embarrassing for you: you didn't even sense the possibility of irony.

    Say ANON, why do you think I should respond to insults from someone without a name?

    As for you’re ignorance of the Pope’s anti-reproductive policy for Europeans, why argue about it here? Why not demonstrate that you have an IQ at least slightly higher than that of a water melon by checking the news reports.

    Here I’ll give you a start:

    From Voice of the Family an initiative of Catholic laity

    IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS: PAPAL SUPPORT FOR UN 2030 AGENDA POSES IMMEDIATE THREAT TO LIVES OF CHILDREN

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