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One of the delights of revisiting old movies after many years is finding out that you completely misread or misremembered certain scenes. Early on in the first part of Leni Riefenstahl’s Olympia, we have the entry parades of the national teams. When the French team come by, they drag their flag in the dust – because, or so I assumed decades ago, these robust athletes were utterly disgusted with the new Popular Front government under the hapless Léon Blum (or “Jew Blum,” as snooty Time magazine called him). Then these French athletes march on – eyes right! – with perfectly choreographed Roman salutes as they pass the Führer at the reviewing stand. The crowds in the Berlin stadium clap and cheer loudly. Austria and Italy give the same salute, of course; but this is France.

Only trouble is, that’s not what was really going on. I was a victim of my own wishful thinking. All the teams were supposed to dip their national banners in salute to the host; perhaps the French tricolor drooped just a little too far. And that salute that the French team gave to Hitler and company was merely the “Olympic salute”: your right arm fully extended à droite. Olympic teams had been doing this for decades. After Berlin, however, the International Olympic Committee decided it might be a good idea to abolish it.

As I review press clips for Leni Riefenstahl over the decades, I find myself faced with similar misconceptions. I had thought she had pretty much been treated as a villain, an outcast, someone never written about without a verbal sneer and spit. But this is not the case at all. When Time magazine had its 75th anniversary celebration at Radio City Music Hall in 1998 with hundreds of still-living cover subjects, Leni Riefenstahl was there, as one of its most celebrated and honored guests, along with such equally notorious cover-cuties as Julia Child, President Bill Clinton, and Sean Connery. There was no finger-wagging in the press about how Leni had been a friend of Hitler’s who had filmed Nuremberg rallies. She was now 95, and Time Inc. was very happy to have her.

The year before that, Riefenstahl had gone to Los Angeles to receive a tribute at a film festival. While there was routine outcry from the expected sources (mainly Rabbi Abe Cooper of the Simon Wiesenthal Center), these protests were mainly laughed at.

It was around this time that there was an ersatz scandal in Hollywood surrounding a new Brad Pitt movie, Seven Years in Tibet, dramatizing the adventures of an Austrian skier and mountain climber named Heinrich Harrer. Shortly before the film’s premiere in LA, it was revealed that the bold mountaineer had once been in the SS. Worse yet, he’d once appeared in a skiing documentary by Leni Riefenstahl.

Writing in The Spectator in 1997, William Cash treated the whole Riefenstahl/Harrer hoohah as a marvelous joke:

Only last month, LA’s Jewish Rage lobby became highly agitated when it was discovered that Leni Riefenstahl had made an unpublicised visit to receive an award at an LA film festival. Harrer was contracted to appear in a film Riefenstahl made about skiing in 1938. ‘They sneaked her into town,’ fumed Rabbi Cooper.

To placate LA’s militant rabbi faction, a would-be diplomatic photo-opportunity meeting was set up in Vienna between the Nazi-hunter Simon Wiesenthal and Herr Harrer. Wiesenthal was left unimpressed by Harrer’s efforts to explain why he had kept his past hidden for 50 years . . .[1]William Cash, “Brad Suddenly Turns Nazi,” The Spectator (London), October 11, 1997.

One gathers that Harrer’s real offense was not nominal membership in the Schutzstaffel, but appearing in a Leni Riefenstahl movie.

Even when she died in 2003, Riefenstahl got little more than a perfunctory “naughty-naughty” in her New York Times obituary, and that showed up mainly in the headline (“Leni Riefenstahl, Filmmaker and Nazi Propagandist, Dies at 101”). Much of this obituary is devoted to the fact that she took up scuba-diving at age 71, and sparked controversy with a photographic book of naked Africans (The Last of the Nuba, 1974). And then, inevitably, there is a reference to the long-winded philippic that Susan Sontag wrote about her, “Fascinating Fascism,” in The New York Review of Books in 1975. In death as in life, what was newsworthy wasn’t so much Riefenstahl or her work, but rather what people were saying about her.

What really comes out, in seventy-odd years of Riefenstahl newspaper files, is that she always tried to keep a firm hand on her publicity. Her efforts were not always successful. Shortly before visiting Southern California in 1938 (to visit friends, she claimed, but also to promote Olympia), she had it put about that she had been denounced by Joseph Goebbels. According to the wire-service stories, Dr. Goebbels claimed to have discovered that Leni had some Jewish blood, way back there. We find Goebbels having her evicted from a Berlin cocktail party, declaring that he could not remain while there was a non-Aryan present. (The truth of the matter seems to be that Leni was a tiny bit Polish.)

This widely-publicized tale was such transparent press-flackery that it’s not surprising that the “Jewish Leni” story had been pretty much forgotten by the time she got to Hollywood. Anyway, the studios weren’t having any of it – or her; the “Jewish Rage lobby” took out ads in the trade papers, demanding that producers have nothing to do with Fräulein Riefenstahl. The only one who met her, one reads, was Walt Disney.

The 1950s and ‘60s were a relatively quiet time for Riefenstahl. While she couldn’t make movies anymore, she wasn’t being slammed as a Hitlerite villain, either. Or rather, when she was, these attacks always seemed to be Red-inspired, and were identified as such. In 1960, Britain’s National Film Theatre was forced by Communist pressure to cancel a Riefenstahl lecture. This prompted some head-scratching in the press: Why do we allow Communists to speak, but not someone who was friends with the Nazis? Asked columnist Keith Kyle in London: “Should the fact that she is a German make her ineligible to the tolerance due to a politically deviant artist of another nationality?”[2]Keith Kyle, “Not for Export,” syndicated column in New York Post, January 15, 1960.

Paradoxically, Riefenstahl’s most enduring negative criticism came from someone who had made her own reputation, in part, by defending Riefenstahl’s work. That critic was Susan Sontag. As in the New York Times obituary mentioned above, Sontag’s long anti-Leni bill of particulars from 1975 has a way of popping up in every critical study and biographical treatment of the filmmaker. Sontag’s pretend-outrage was based on Riefenstahl’s continued insistence on telling her own story: e.g., she was never a Nazi, but she liked Hitler, didn’t get along with Goebbels, and wasn’t going to apologize for any of this. There are many amazing passages in the Sontag screed, but the key one is probably this:

[W]hether or not Riefenstahl deserved a prison sentence, it was not her “acquaintance” with the Nazi leadership but her activities as a leading propagandist for the Third Reich that were at issue.[3]Susan Sontag, “Fascinating Fascism,” The New York Review of Books, February 6, 1975.

So she was a propagandist? This runs completely counter to the provocative pro-Riefenstahl argument that Sontag had made a decade earlier (see below). Rhetorically, we must ask why. And the answer is: feminism! Not the nonsensical Leftism that masquerades under that name today, but the old-fashioned formula, which in its time at least purported to be interested in gifted women who went against the grain. And near the top of the list you’d always find Leni Riefenstahl, the one outstanding female filmmaker of the twentieth century. By 1973 and 1974, she was being written about and honored at “women’s film festivals” in Telluride and New York, and few people seemed to be complaining.

This was a perfect opening for Sontag the contrarian. Her real target was feminism’s trendiness, but that agendum got lost in her massive attack on Riefenstahl, in a review that wasn’t even about Riefenstahl’s film career, but ostensibly covered Riefenstahl’s new photo book, The Last of the Nuba.

There are many glorious nuggets in this maddening seven thousand-word essay. Let me offer a couple:

Fascist art glorifies surrender, it exalts mindlessness, it glamorizes death. Such art is hardly confined to works labeled as fascist or produced under fascist governments. (To cite films only: Walt Disney’s Fantasia, Busby Berkeley’s The Gang’s All Here, and Kubrick’s 2001 also strikingly exemplify certain formal structures and themes of fascist art.)

Nazi art is reactionary, defiantly outside the century’s mainstream of achievement in the arts. But just for this reason it has been gaining a place in contemporary taste. The left-wing organizers of a current exhibition of Nazi painting and sculpture . . . in Frankfurt have found, to their dismay, the attendance excessively large and hardly as serious-minded as they had hoped. Even when flanked by didactic admonitions from Brecht and by concentration-camp photographs, what Nazi art reminds these crowds of is – other art of the 1930s, notably Art Deco. . . . The same aesthetic responsible for the bronze colossi of Arno Breker – Hitler’s (and, briefly, Cocteau’s) favorite sculptor – and of Josef Thorak also produced the muscle-bound Atlas in front of Manhattan’s Rockefeller Center . . .[4]Susan Sontag, “Fascinating Fascism.”

Goodness, everything is fascist or Nazi, it seems. But I come back now to my main point, which is that Sontag was trying to walk back her earlier defense of Riefenstahl, published in Partisan Review, where she first made her name. Her first big-think piece there was something called “Notes on Camp,” which, apart from “Fascinating Fascism,” may still be her best-known essay. It’s mainly just a long “listicle” in which she enumerates about a hundred pop-culture totems (Tiffany lamps, Scopitone films, the Brown Derby restaurant) that she believes to be infused with a kind of male-homosexual ironical sensibility. There’s that famous line: “Camp sees everything in quotation marks. It’s not a lamp, but a ‘lamp’; not a woman, but a ‘woman.’”[5]Susan Sontag, “Notes on Camp,” Partisan Review (New York), No. 4, 1964.

That was in 1964. The following year, she followed up with an essay on a similar theme, “On Style.” And here we find her enduring politics-be-damned critical defense of Leni Riefenstahl.

Sontag’s pro-Leni thrust is, essentially, that whatever you may think of the “Nazi” content of Triumph of the Will or Olympia (which she calls The Olympiad) is really beside the point, and has no place in critical judgment. An artist needs material, content, sculptor’s clay to work with, and Riefenstahl’s material just happened to be memorable, eye-catching spectacle:

In art, “content” is, as it were, the pretext, the goal, the lure which engages consciousness in essentially formal processes of transformation.

This is how we can, in good conscience cherish works of art which, considered in terms of “content,” are morally objectionable to us. . . . To call Leni Riefenstahl’s The Triumph of the Will and The Olympiad masterpieces is not to gloss over Nazi propaganda with aesthetic lenience. The Nazi propaganda is there. But something else is there, too, which we reject at our loss. Because they project the complex movements of intelligence and grace and sensuousness, these two films of Riefenstahl (unique among works of Nazi artists) transcend the categories of propaganda or even reportage. And we find ourselves – to be sure, rather uncomfortably – seeing “Hitler” and not Hitler, the “1936 Olympics” and not the 1936 Olympics. Through Riefenstahl’s genius as a film-maker, the “content” has – let us even assume, against her intentions-come to play a purely formal role.[6]Susan Sontag, “On Style,” Partisan Review (New York), No. 4, 1965.

A purely formal role! In other words, the films are not themselves political; they are rather documentaries about things that might or might not have political or propagandistic content. You need to stand back from them, as from a painting at a museum, to appreciate them fully. This parallels Sontag’s description of Camp irony: where you see not a woman, but a “woman”; not Hitler, but “Hitler.” The film “Hitler” is okay, because he’s just an actor or icon, unconnected to those nasty Nazis you see in Hollywood.

The argument is a bit tortured, but you get the point: Sontag likes Riefenstahl, and so should any fair critic. But when the time came for her to write “Fascinating Fascism,” Sontag had to forget her old precept and argue a new rule: content matters, content is all. Hence her long, tortured tangents about the fascism of Walt Disney, Stanley Kubrick, and Busby Berkeley, or Art Deco and Rockefeller Center.

Whether she really believed any of her later silliness or was just trying to entertain the reader is an open question. But her two contradictory arguments survive as the two popular poles of thought about Leni Riefenstahl.

Of course there’s a “third pole” of thought, too: Riefenstahl was an artist, and her content is fine. And her work needs no abstruse critical theory to justify it.

Notes

[1] William Cash, “Brad Suddenly Turns Nazi,” The Spectator (London), October 11, 1997.

[2] Keith Kyle, “Not for Export,” syndicated column in New York Post, January 15, 1960.

[3] Susan Sontag, “Fascinating Fascism,” The New York Review of Books, February 6, 1975.

[4] Susan Sontag, “Fascinating Fascism.”

[5] Susan Sontag, “Notes on Camp,” Partisan Review (New York), No. 4, 1964.

[6] Susan Sontag, “On Style,” Partisan Review (New York), No. 4, 1965.

(Republished from Counter-Currents Publishing by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Leni Riefenstahl is definitely one of my favorite people.

    • Agree: Wally
    • Replies: @Wally
  2. This is a fine, contrarian piece. Leni, we hardly knew ye.

  3. I won’t question the lady’s talent and skill, but her overblown campy Krauts and overhung naked Nubians don’t speak well of her taste.

    If she left works that don’t turn the stomach, I’ll be glad to take those into consideration. As long as it doesn’t cost anything.

  4. PeterMX says:

    Leni Riefenstahl could have put out something (I won’t even go so far as calling it a story) about Goebbels denouncing her (although she also may not have), but it was others, Americans exposed to 5 years of high pitched, relentless anti-German hatred with an intensity that only the Jew is capable of producing, or a Jew(s) himself who wrote the story about her being partly Jewish. And whether Leni liked or disliked Goebbels or Hitler is almost meaningless without more information. People like or dislike many people they meet and sometimes you like someone one day and dislike him the next. I seem to recall people often saying they liked or disliked this or that German leader that they had met, most likely being asked by a dumb American (which would best describe myself at one time) whether that person “liked” or “disliked” this or that “NAZI”, as if liking a “NAZI” seems impossible. Well, if he’s a “NAZI” probably nobody liked him, including Hitler. If “Fredo” is the Italians “N” word, then “NAZI” is the real “N” word, directed at Germans, but anyone that uses the real “N” word does not generate hatred, and may not even feel hatred himself, but the word “NAZI” is an unmatched expression of pure hatred. But America’s allies, the Commies were good. That explains “Antifa” and the next government the US will have if Trump is not reelected. Then we’ll see how white Americans feel after four years of that, LOL

    Goebbels himself changed his mind about Jews, not due to any stupid Jew theory they attach to “NAZIS” about someone having an ounce of Jew blood, but for their repulsive hatred of others. David Irving explains that Goebbels grew up next door to a Jewish family that Goebbels’ parents were friends with and Goebbels spent a lot of time with the man of the family. Later in life Goebbels dated a Jewish woman and criticized another girlfriend for making a slightly unflattering comment about Jews (heaven forbid), and then later Irving explains how Goebbels came to be their biggest enemy. I wonder how many people can relate to Goebbels transformation?

    Leni Riefenstahl has been called the greatest female director that ever lived and then I read someone clarifying that further, calling her the greatest director that ever lived.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @j. s. weir
  5. “…According to the wire-service stories, Dr. Goebbels claimed to have discovered that Leni had some Jewish blood, way back there. We find Goebbels having her evicted from a Berlin cocktail party, declaring that he could not remain while there was a non-Aryan present…”

    Perhaps there was some substance to the rumor that Leni Riefenstahl had (some) “Jewish blood”. Here is a picture of hers in her old age. Judge for yourself :

  6. Justice would have been done if this woman (Leni Rienfensthal) was forcibly married to a black guy and made to bear his babies in Africa.
    Many daughters of Nazi leaders were later found to be married with Black guys.
    Amon Goeth met the poetic justice.
    Anyway, Germany and whole of Europe will be a land of Mixed people in a few years.
    Refugee crisis means more interracial relationships.
    Even rejected asylum seekers are here to stay.
    White women want them here.
    Bye bye , White people. You won’t be missed.

  7. Wally says: • Website

    – The fake scandal of ‘Leni Riefenstahl & the Nazis’ is simply irrational and easily demonstrated as such.

    – It’s a known fact that ‘the Nazis’ did not kill the fabled ‘6,000,000 Jews and 5,000,00o others’, and there were no ‘Nazi gas chambers’. Regardless of how much it’s repeated by Zionist shysters, the Germans could not perform magic, aka: the scientifically impossible.

    – What we are dealing with here is the classic question:
    ‘How many angels can dance on the head of a pin’?.
    answer:
    There are no angels.

    As for the 1936 Olympics:
    – 1st: Germany was the overwhelming medals winner.
    – 2nd: Jesse Owens, black US Olympic athlete, debunked the lies that Hitler snubbed him because of his race.

    – Jesse Owens, after winning his events, said:

    “When I passed the Chancellor he arose, waved his hand at me, and I waved back at him. I think the writers showed bad taste in criticizing the man of the hour in Germany.”

    and:

    “Hitler didn’t snub me, it was FDR who snubbed me. The president didn’t even send me a telegram.”

    – Hitler and other heads of state were forbidden by Olympic officials from visiting any athletes after their events.
    – Hence the propaganda that said / says Hitler deliberately avoided Owens is just that, another Zionist lie.
    – Jesse Owens was never invited to the White House nor bestowed any honors by Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) or Harry S. Truman during their terms.
    more:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11344
    and:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  8. Wally says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    FYI, some excellent, recommended information about Riefenstahl here: https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=leni+riefenstahl
    ex.:
    In Brief. By Töben, F., Rudolf, G. , published 2003-10-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl died at age 101. Much loved for her pioneering film work, Riefenstahl was also hated by those who pressed her to apologize for having been associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nationa…

    Jesse Owens: Myth and Reality, News and Comment: By Weber, M. , published 1984-04-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl’s film masterwork also devotes great attention to many other non-Whites, including outstanding Japanese athletes. The same holds true in the deluxe, semi-official German picture book …

    The Fuehrer Headquarters 1939-1945 / The Great Age of German Films 1933-1945, Book Reviews, By Stimely, K. , published 1984-04-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl and a couple others may have done some great work, but the greatness was of a peculiar “demonic” nature. All-in-all, film production in the Third Reich not only contributed little or …

    ‘Real History’ in Cincinnati, By O’Keefe, T. , published 2001-12-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl, whose 99th birthday was on August 22. Provan-Renk Debate Two independent researchers, Charles Provan of Pennsylvania and Brian Renk of British Columbia, squared off on Sunday for a …

    Revisionism in Russia, By Strauss, W. , published 2003-11-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl’s soundtrack “Triumph des Willens” (1934) along with the Olympic epos “Fest der Völker” and “Fest der Schönheit” (1936). The Russian public spent minute-long standing ovations. The Ri…

    The Legacy of Rudolf Hess, By Weber, M. , published 1993-01-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl film of the 1934 Congress, “Triumph of the Will.” Known as the “conscience of the party,” he often used what power and influence he had to intervene on behalf of victims of persecutio…

    Life Under Fire, The Wages of Apostasy, By Irving, D. , published 1993-01-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl. I hope the above material suffices for what you have in mind. That’s the way to deal with journalists! I have developed my own techniques in dealing with them. ‘Historically Inaccu…

    Introduction to Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich, By Irving, D. , published 1995-01-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl – who privately showed me her productions of the era – and filmstar Lida Baarova (now Lida Lundwall). I am grateful to Thomas Harlan for talking to me about his mother the late filmst…

    Film as witness: screening ‘Nazi Concentration Camps’ before the Nuremberg Tribunal, By Douglas, L. , published 1995-01-11

    …Leni Riefenstahl’s Triumph of the Will, see 3 IMT, supra note 2, at 400-02; Taylor, supra note 10, at 200), as well as films documenting atrocities in the east, see 7 IMT, supra note 2, at 601, and a …

  9. GeeBee says:

    How disappointing. I clicked on this article with relish, not unreasonably expecting it to be about Leni Riefenstahl, but it turns out to be a piece about Susan Sontag instead…

  10. Blankaerd says:

    ‘Jewish rage lobby’ That’s a good one. I’ll use that, thanks.

    Leni Riefenstahl was a pioneer. Triump of the Will and Olympiad are masterpieces that have withstood the test of time. You’d think that the jews would’ve slaughtered her career, but for whatever reason, they didn’t. She exhibited that European value of Greatness and generated lasting value.

    Meanwhile Susan Rosenblatt owed her success to other influential media jews who were shoving that hag into the spotlights. She hated the white race and thought it was a cancer on a planet – a laughable characterization coming from a member of a people that came up with communism and murdered at least 20 million human beings in the 20th century alone.

  11. utu says:

    Was Susan Sontag’s incestuous relationship with her son just ‘incestuous’?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  12. Marcus29 says:

    “Riefenstahl was an artist, and her content is fine. And her work needs no abstruse critical theory to justify it.”

    Agreed. Leni was an extraordinary artist and individual.

    Susan Sontag, whose fatuous screed “Against Interpretation” had fifteen minutes of popularity among English majors in the 70s was, and will always remain for me, a rather verbose, annoying asshole.

    • Replies: @Loren
  13. AceDeuce says:
    @Wally

    Supposedly, Owens actually met Hitler, at Hitler’s request, and shook his hand. The story goes that Owens carried a picture of that event in his wallet for the rest of his life.

    As for the FDR/Truman “snubs”. In that more serious era, few, if any, Olympic athletes were invited to the White House.

    Owens complained, in addition, that he couldn’t find a good job after the Olympics. Of course, back then the endorsement laws to remain an amateur were much stricter, and Olympic athletes had limited opportunities to cash in on their sport. As for regular jobs-it was the freaking Depression.

    What did his job interviews look like:

    “Tell us about your, skills and experience, young man-what can you do for our company”?

    “I’ze kin run az fast az a muddafukka, suh”

    “So can Man O’ War, son……NEXT!!!”

  14. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Ah Goebbels, the rascal. There were also rumors that he himself was of Jewish descent. Overdramatizing the demand to have poor Leni evicted from a social event would then seem to be circumstantial evidence for the veracity of those rumors.

    Quite apart from the mass murder of Jews by the nazis, the relationship between tem is definitely a complex one, what with the Haavara agreement and the more than 100,000 Jewish soldiers in the nazi armed forces. And the “honorary aryans” such as Luftwaffe General Erhard Milch.

    If Goebbels would not have wanted to share an event with Leni just because of her Jewish descent, I wonder why he would have allowed almost 300 Jewish artists, performers and movie industry people to go on working by handing them special status and permits?

    History is always such fun!

    • Agree: GMC
    • Replies: @Wally
  15. If one translates the name Riefenstahl literally, it breaks down Grooved or Corrugated Steel, a building material that is lightweight but incredibly resistant to bending in the face of perpendicular (opposing) force.

    The German technical term for corrugated steel is actually Wellblech, which breaks down literally to wave-shaped sheet steel, which seems somewhat mundane when compared to Riefenstahl.

  16. unit472 says:

    As much of the Weimar German film industry was busy decamping to Hollywood and elsewhere in the 1930’s this gave an opportunity to a competent female film maker to show her stuff. In any other circumstance Reifenstahl would be celebrated as pioneering woman. Prior to her only Mary Pickford had achieved any success beyond as an actress in the industry and it wasn’t until Ida Lupino in the 1950’s that a woman would again make feature films.

  17. @M Krauthammar

    “…Bye bye, White people. You won’t be missed…”

    Charles Murray, Human Accomplishment :

    Without White people 97% of human civilization would not exist.
    You jealous bro ?

    • Agree: Fuerchtegott
    • Replies: @Jakmnamnw21
    , @Yadayada
  18. Realist says:
    @M Krauthammar

    You are the epitome of a Jack off Jew…a true onanist.

  19. Loren says:
    @Marcus29

    Sontag was born Susan Rosenblatt
    in New York City, the daughter of Mildred (née Jacobson) and Jack Rosenblatt, both Jews of Lithuanian[5] and Polish d

  20. Anonymous[262] • Disclaimer says:

    >”but this is France”

    The FRANCE that saved our chestnuts, letting we colonies separate from England?

    • Replies: @Bill
  21. “…Fascist art glorifies surrender, it exalts mindlessness, it glamorizes death…”

    Who are the fascists in contemporary America again?

    • Replies: @anon
  22. Anonymous[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @M Krauthammar

    M Krauthammar >”Bye bye , White people. You won’t be missed.”

    Nor will ye, Jewenate Chosenite!.

    Whites were minorities on plantations. They still ran ’em. So get used to innate white superiority. And Yid shartstorming (while playing victim) face illegal beaners turn the USA Pacostan, filled with losers from MEH-HEE-COE.

    Whites will continue to run the world…until Wakandan-Aztecs turn the USA into Mexicamerico Shtlhoelestqn,

    There are no Jew populations that garbage-compactors can’t sort out. When payback times per Palestine, America won’t care any more about Jews than they did shafted Palestinians.

    Being Jewish was central to many decisions.I suspect will hold true for a few more decades.

    • Replies: @M Krauthammar
  23. Gunga Din says:
    @GeeBee

    I agree. I was curious about Sontag and looked at her bio on Wiki. She was a jew, both parents Lithuanian jews. Went to UCBerkeley for a while, married an older sociology prof for a while, then was a flaming lesbian the rest of her life. Changed her birthname from Rosenblatt to stepfather’s Sontag. She sounds like a typical leftwing loon.
    I have seen both of Riefenstahl’s documentaries, The Triumph of the Will and Olympia. They were shown years ago on PBS before PBS became the PC brainwasing tool it is now. Both works are enthralling masterpieces. If you ever get the chance to see them, you must.

  24. Bill says:
    @Anonymous

    No, that France died in 1789.

  25. anon[181] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve in Greensboro

    Projection, (((every single time)))

  26. Bookish1 says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    You cant claim that someone has Jewish blood by a pic and not even by the size and foolishness of their noses. I have known people who looked Jewish but I know were not Jewish.

  27. @Anonymous

    Your time is limited, you Nazi scum.
    Your race will be wiped out and we shall cheer.
    White Americans are like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

  28. Che Guava says:
    @PeterMX

    I would just post ’agree’, but on the specific point of Goebbel’s tracks on this point, while not having had a relationship beyond friendship with a Jewish person, some I met oveseas were nice people, one even having a crush on me, though too young (not illegally, but possibly from the effect of Israeli traffccking in MDA and MDMA, though I was not unattractive at the time), so nothing, but most and their parents were obsesed with real estate, and trade in real estate, gold (that is an assumption and simple to see), and in raising crap art sold as art.

    Having returned to lapan without much much money before that, I saw how obnoxious Israeli Jews could be.

    All supremacist arseholes. It was interesting to see the govt. crackdown on the Israeli drug couriers (who, at the time, were leaving Japan, burning their passports, then getting a new one issued at the Israeli crime embassy, usually in Sth. Korea at first, then later in the Phillipines or Siam. One hopes that the suppresssion of the it is to co nthpnue

    • Replies: @PeterMX
  29. Republic says:
    @GeeBee

    Sontag went to Sweden in the late 60s to make a film there, when she returned to the US she wrote for Ramparts Magazine , an article entitled,” A letter from Sweden,”

    https://www.unz.com/print/Ramparts-1969jul-00023/

    I found that 16 page letter to be extremely interested as it provided a profound psychological insight into Sweden society that I have not read elsewhere.

    One of the reasons for my interest in this letter from Sweden is that it explains
    Why certain psychological traits of the Swedish population made Sweden an ideal location for a social engineering project which led to the mass migration of an alien people into Sweden.

  30. @Franklin Ryckaert

    That figure actually includes Jews, something basically never mentioned by the people who cite it.

    He has Einstein as the 2nd most significant physicist after Newton.

    • Replies: @NobodyKnowsImADog
  31. Wally says: • Website
    @Hans Vogel

    – There was no “mass murder of Jews by the nazis”, and there is no proof there was.

    – Erhard Milch was not Jewish.
    His “aryan” mother married a Jew after her son, whose father was not a Jew, was born.

    -There were thousands of Jews who openly lived in Berlin throughout WWII.

    Jews were given a choice to stay behind at “death camp Auschwitz” or leave with the ‘evil’ SS, most chose to leave with the SS.

    “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  32. Che Guava says:

    I would just post ’agree’, but on the specific point of Goebbel’s tracks on this point, while not having had a relationship beyond friendship with a Jewish person, some I met oveseas were nice people, one even having a crush on me, though too young (not illegally, but possibly from the effect of Israeli traffccking in MDA and MDMA, though I was not unattractive at the time), so nothing, but most and their parents were obsesed with real estate, and trade in real estate, gold (that is an assumption and simple to see), and in raising crap art sold as art.

    Having returned to lapan without much money before that, I saw how obnoxious Israeli Jews could be.

    All supremacist arseholes. It was interesting to see the govt. crackdown on the Israeli drug couriers (who, at the time, were leaving Japan, burning their passports, then getting a new one issued at the Israeli crime embassy, usually in Sth. Korea at first, then later in the Phillipnes or Siam. One hopes that the suppresssion of that is to continue as the evil event (lympics) approaches.

    I read a few articles elsewhere on the 50th anniversaryof Woodstock, where the ‘mud’ that the filthy hippies were playing in was mainly their own faesces.

    As an antidote for all, I recommend the charmng song by Melanhe Safka, Brand New Key. I was listening to it at work today, it is a beautiful song.

  33. PeterMX says:
    @Che Guava

    I have had Jewish friends also. I think what might obstruct me from having a Jewish friend again is I know much more today (although I was very skeptical growing up) than I did years ago about my peoples history (Germans) and theirs and expectations from me to accept guilt for things I know were not done and their blatant refusal to accept guilt for anything, despite playing a major role in so many awful things, such as Bolshevism. I won’t play a subservient role.

    • Agree: Che Guava, chris
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  34. Wally says:
    @M Krauthammar

    said:
    “Justice would have been done if this woman (Leni Rienfensthal) was forcibly married to a black guy and made to bear his babies in Africa.”
    – But she didn’t.
    “Many daughters of Nazi leaders were later found to be married with Black guys”.
    – No they weren’t. You can only wish.
    “Amon Goeth met the poetic justice.”
    – The lies about him shot down here:
    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=amon+goeth
    “Anyway, Germany and whole of Europe will be a land of Mixed people in a few years.”
    – Then who will support “that shitty little country” of Israel? Muslims? LOL
    “Refugee crisis means more interracial relationships.”
    – No it doesn’t, you can only wish.
    “Even rejected asylum seekers are here to stay.”
    – No they are not. Pay attention. You can only wish.
    “White women want them here.”
    – No they don’t. Most white women voted for Trump.
    “Bye bye , White people. You won’t be missed.”
    – Then who will pay the bills or everyone else?

  35. @GeeBee

    A fair criticism. But note the title of the piece. It’s impossible to sort through the noise about Riefenstahl over the past 55 years without addressing Sontag.

    Like it or not, the popular view of Leni is filtered through commonplace notions amongst the Chattering Classes. I could have reduced the Sontag portion to a couple of grossed-up paragraphs, but that wouldn’t have told the story, and it would leave most readers mystified.

  36. Durruti says:

    Viewed Leni Riefenstahl’s The Triumph of the Will

    on a Library copy – just a month ago.

    Her Movie, is largely a compilation of Nazi Political Rallies with speeches from Adolf Hitler.

    What was of interest was that Hitler did not refer to Jews in these speeches. Now, whether or not the Library copy of Reifenstahl’s movie was ‘edited/censored’ is unknown to me, as I was not around to view the original version. But the Rallies and emotion within her “Triumph” expressed German Patriotic – Nationalistic views.

    Hitler’s speeches were quite bland. I prefer the sparkling speeches of our last Constitutional President (delivered when America remained a Sovereign Nation), of John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Kennedy’s speeches were filled with Humor, Intelligence, and strong Direction.

    Clearly Leni Riefenstahl was an extroadinary Film Maker. I cannot recall one other woman who has had her ability, and artistic flair. Only a few men approach her brilliance (Peter Jackson comes to mind). She depicted the rise of German Fascism, not how the Zionist Land Thieves & New World Order terrorists teach it, but how it was.

    PJ Collins did well to place a political foundation around his presentation of Riefenstahl, by comparing her with Susan Sontag. And compare he did. Ms. Sontag is her own enigma of changing opinions and worshipping of today’s Zionist New World Order, an Order, that in the aftermath, with the smoke still clearing, of the Epstein, Maxwell, Former ‘president’ Bill (that wasn’t sex) Clinton-in a Blue Dress, former Zionist Prime Minister, and current #2 most powerful politician in the Entity, Ehud (many trips to Epstein’s Pleasure Palace) Barak, and Casino (I am Yahweh) Trump, with a supporting cast of thousands praying at the Roman Wailing Wall, – Verb, where are you?

    Collins introduced Sontag in order to place Riefenstahl in Historic context. Well done for a short introductory article. Sontag comes off (as we say) as a sad, incomplete, and quite immoral propagandist. When is Sontag’s first Movie coming out that displays sympathy for the Palestinian People – who are being Ethnically Cleansed by the Zionist Terrorists (as we speak)?

    We Americans must fashion a Triumph of Our Will, by Restoring Our Republic, (that was destroyed in a blaze of gunfire, on November 22, 1963.

    God Bless!

    Durruti

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  37. David says:
    @GeeBee

    But you did get to relish the click!

  38. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    If only the talented Leni had made a Holocaust film, to add to the more than 400 already floating around, then she would have been made into a saint.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Holocaust_films

    I bet the Jewish Rage Lobby is kvetching hard over this piece in UNZ.com.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
    , @Wally
  39. @Franklin Ryckaert

    She looked a bit like Carrie Fisher as a young woman.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  40. @Franklin Ryckaert

    I have seen pictures of LR in her “old age” (she lived to 101 so how old are we talking about here) and she did not look as grotesque as in this one. Leave it to Ryckaert to find the most unflattering photo of any “Nazi” to show as representative. And there is nothing “Jewish” about this face, not even the nose. Many Germans have long noses, and a knob at the end, which become more pronounced as fat leaves the face due to aging. It would help to see her nose, at this same time, in profile.

    And how do we even know that this is really Leni, and not Ryckaert up to his usual tricks?

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  41. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    From the article:

    … Leni Riefenstahl, the one outstanding female filmmaker of the twentieth century.

    I’d say Ida Lupino (1918 – 1995) was outstanding. She produced and directed six films, for example Not Wanted (1949) starring Sally Forrest. She directed one other film and numerous TV episodes.

  42. @Carolyn Yeager

    “…And how do we even know that this is really Leni, and not Ryckaert up to his usual tricks..?”

    “Ryckaert-up-to-his-usual-tricks” is simply GOOGLE IMAGES, which you easily can check out for yourself. Here are some more pictures from the same source :

    [MORE]

    https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/s3-helnwein-images-bucket/334/RAW

    https://media-cdn.sueddeutsche.de/image/sz.1.895466/640×360

    And here is dear Leni with her nose in profile which you requested :

    https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/321190c/a0db61fc/leni-
    riefenstahl-2000-shutterstock-editorial-321190c.jpg

    I guess if you would visit a Jewish old ladies home, you would see such types.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  43. @Greg Bacon

    But Leni Riefenstahl had already proved her “non-racist” credentials. Here is she with her newly found “Black Superman”:

    And here is she cuddling “the Black Hope of humanity” :

  44. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    Everything about Sontag, her life, her volume of work and her memory should be thrown into a New York dumpster and forgotten about. She is the epitome of the worst of humanity, best to be forgotten permanently.

    • Replies: @Lucas
  45. Yadayada says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    What will Krauthammer and his glorious people do without a host organism ( those nasty white Europeans) to live off as parasites? Curious….

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  46. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @PeterMX

    All regular people, Jewish and not, believe the mainstream narrative everyone is fed by the media and education system.

  47. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    Wally, how do you think control of the present is won?
    It is, you think, because some people (those who control the present) have shadowy minds and hearts, and take advantage of the others in a world of white minds and hearts, which would be governed by candor, keenness for truth, innocence, if it weren’t for those few shadowy never-do-wells?

    • Replies: @Wally
  48. mcohen says:

    She sure liked nubians.No wonder germany welcomed all the african refugees.Gutten hung as the say.Strange this fascination of the white woman for black men.

  49. RobRich says: • Website
    @M Krauthammar

    Uh-huh. She spent time documenting African Tribes and made no secret of her tribal lovers.

  50. Sontag’s essay is a landmark piece.

  51. @Red Pill Angel

    She looked good in the Time cover image of Leni Riefenstahl skiing in typical mountain spring conditions. Minimal clothing. Warm sun. Good times.

    I was always impressed by her cinematography.

    Like Wagner, her art gets a bad rap because of association with a leader, whose rise to power was funded and supported by financiers and industrialists from many nations.

    The People did not lift Hitler to power. The ultra rich elite placed him there. The film, “Triumph of the Will”, was made to convince the People that they played an important role.

    Much the same as US Presidents always represent the ultra rich and are related to each other through a small group of ruling families. The two allowed national political parties are both funded and supported by billionaires and trillionaires.

    • Replies: @Wally
  52. Hanrahan says:

    Leni was an actress before she was a director. Pictures of a young Leni show her very fit, athletic and beautiful.

    • Replies: @Winnetou1889
  53. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Okay, the profile of the nose doesn’t look good. I accept that much. Some women just live too long, or at least after a certain point, they should not be photographed. Or put on makeup. But she didn’t care. Funny, though, that her nose didn’t look that way when she was younger. What happens? I can say that my nose is the same as it’s always been. But I can’t say what might happen if I live to be 100.

    Obviously, Riefenstahl was both a genius and an eccentric. But I wish we could know what her DNA revealed. I wouldn’t mind if everyone were required to have that test at birth and it be a part of their public record. No more pretending. Our data bank would expand and become more exact. Then we wouldn’t be going around accusing people based on photographs.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  54. Paul says:

    The best female filmmaker ever.

  55. It was interesting to see the govt. crackdown on the Israeli drug couriers (who, at the time, were leaving Japan, burning their passports, then getting a new one issued at the Israeli crime embassy, usually in Sth. Korea at first, then later in the Phillipnes or Siam.

    Presumably with a different name and birth details to avoid detection on return to Nippon? Thais, Filippinos and Indonesians used to get deported out of Singapore and Malaysia and return within two days max with new passports of their own countries again and again. And I was told in India anybody can go and buy a genuine passport in the official government office with whatever name and birth details they wish and not too expensive for a foreigner, but I suppose not within the budget of most of
    the poorer Indians. Phnom Penh airport was one of the first to introduce fingerprint, iris and voice print at arrivals or it may have been just testing of the technology. Hasn’t Japan introduce this to avoid such misuses?

  56. Wally says:
    @SaneClownPosse

    said:
    “The People did not lift Hitler to power. The ultra rich elite placed him there.

    The film, “Triumph of the Will”, was made to convince the People that they played an important role.”

    – I guess that explains why the ultra rich initiated WWII to remove Hitler.

    Roosevelt Conspired to Start World War II in Europe: http://www.unz.com/article/roosevelt-conspired-to-start-world-war-ii-in-europe/

    I do realize that there were investors in German industry since Germany did and does make quality products that people buy.

    – No it wasn’t, you’re just reciting unproven propaganda.

  57. @Carolyn Yeager

    Actually the proverbial “Jewish nose” is in reality the typical nose of the Neanderthal, of whom scientists agree that he had a big fleshy nose. The Neanderthals lived from ca. 200,000 BC to ca. 35,000 BC in the Middle East and Europe. They were partly exterminated and partly absorbed by the later Cro-Magnons. Because the climate in the Middle East was milder than in Europe (especially during the Ice Ages), the Neanderthals survived in greater number in the Middle East than in Europe, hence the people of the Middle East carry a greater amount of Neanderthal genes than Europeans. Especially among Jews this is strongly present due to their strictly practiced endogamy.

    Here is a picture of the reconstructed face of the Neanderthal :

    [MORE]

    https://cosmos-images2.imgix.net/file/spina/photo/18030/190218-nean-full.jpg?ixlib=rails-2.1.4&auto=format&ch=Width%2CDPR&fit=max&w=835

    Compare that with this picture of a well known modern Jew, Richard Falk, professor emeritus of International Law at Princeton University :

    The resemblance is striking and not only with respect to the nose.

    It is of course perfectly possible that Leni Riefenstahl inherited her Neanderthal genes directly from European Neanderthals, without intervention of Jewish admixture, but that is not the first possibility one would consider. Jews are known to “look more Jewish” when they become older. That would explain why Leni Riefenstahl, who after all would only have been partly Jewish, didn’t look Jewish at all when she was young, but the more so at the ripe age of 101 years.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  58. @Jakmnamnw21

    Einstein stole his discoveries from actual whites while working in a patent office, then used Jewish publicity to maintain his position. Relativity was discovered by Lorentz and Fourier many years prior to him publicizing it and receiving credit for it. They can see further only because they’re sucking the blood of giants.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  59. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Actually the proverbial “Jewish nose” is in reality the typical nose of the Neanderthal, of whom scientists agree that he had a big fleshy nose.

    I think you are conflating a fleshy nose with a hooked, semitic nose — two different things, although they can both be present. It was the hook in Riefenstahl’s nose at the age of 100 that I didn’t expect. But here is a picture of young Leni in profile with only a hint of that downward tip. https://www.meaus.com/leni-riefenstahl-100.htm

    So her nose became deformed in advanced old age. Here is a 93-year old German woman with a droopy tip to her nose – https://www.pinterest.com/pin/438608451182543119/. Probably didn’t look that way when she was younger.

    I don’t agree that Richard Falk bears a “striking resemblance” to the Neanderthal man, any more than with your imagined resemblance between Reinhard Heydrich’s father and that Jewish scientist with black frizzy hair and mustache. It was very superficial. Riefenstahl’s nose at age 100 is in the same category. Her interest in Africans is pretty typically German, unfortunately.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  60. CNN uses the exact same tricks, presumably pioneered by Riefenstahl. 9/11 would have been nothing without ‘er.

    I am stunned by the number of people who have so thoroughly internalized the propagandized commands of their ‘Jewish’ oppressors. Yes Leni was a Jew, as were Hitler and Goebbels plus any number of important figures commanding German self-immolation from 1933-45, on behalf of Judaised local and especially Anglo aristocrats, a process perfected by Germans no less than engineering but in this case still being practiced today with Talmudic Vengeance.

    By coincidence I was looking at a list of German Generals just yesterday and wouldn’t you know it at least half of the names were Jewish or potentially Jewish, amongst them on Wiki I see Rommel, Kesselring, Eberstein, Frank, Dietrich, Keppler, Rosener, Schaub, Steiner, etc. and etc.

    This should surprise no one when you consider the role of the Perfidious ones in cleansing Europe of most of it’s Jewery, i.e. the competition – from the Spanish Inquisition to Thermidorian Reaction (violent elimination of France’s greatest scientific minds), to the Nazis of course and then more recently to Soviet Jewery, all of whom were driven out of their homelands and into the arms of Mother England or it’s primary colonies. Those who remained in their native lands, living amongst local people with essentially identical DNA, would become convinced by the Holo-Hoax narrative of opposing Riefenstahl’s in Great Britain and the USA that their neighbours were anti-semites to the core and Zionism plus the elimination of the white ‘race’ was possibly the only answer to their plight.

    How do you control the world via Jewery? See paragraph above. Once convinced of the malevolence of locals, which was rarely the case in places like Germany, Jews who remained behind became tailor made 5th columnists for City of London financiers and play that role prominently more than ever today now that token Goys are no longer required.

    I would be interested to know of the at least 50% Jews and Sayanim trolls who comment here, which do you hate more, yourself or da Jews?

    • LOL: Wally
    • Troll: Carolyn Yeager
  61. 100% of the material on this site (both articles and comments) is garbage, but I absolutely love dropping by and seeing Nazis scream simultaneously about how they can’t defeat the Jews and how much vengeance they’re going to get at some indefinitely tabled point on the future. Keep up the good work! Also I don’t and won’t post regularly here, I just wanted to express what you won’t believe-but IS sincere appreciation for how abysmal TUnzR is in practice.

    • Replies: @Wally
  62. Wally says:
    @Sorrow Road

    So IOW, you cannot refute the large amount of “holocaust” debunking information presented at this site.
    Like it or not, you will never be the same.

    Here’s what one of your Jews said:

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    – Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

  63. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:

    Any way you cut it, outraged or revisionist, she was an innovative artist and creator.

    Her documentary impulse reminds me of Merian C. Cooper or Werner Herzog.

    Your piece as well, very high content and thoughtful. Appreciate the work.

  64. Paul says:

    What World War II was about: The British had the world, and the Germans wanted it.

  65. Paul says:

    The Germans were after oil. So were the Japanese heading south toward Indonesia.

  66. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    asked”
    “Wally, how do you think control of the present is won?”

    By controlling the past, as I posted.

    I think that all people would be better off without lies masquerading as history.

    Thanks.

  67. @Hanrahan

    Riefenstahl’s performance as a dancer and actress in Tanz zum Meer (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsgre37nsNo)
    was beautiful. Hitler saw the film and said that her dancing was one of the most beautiful things he had ever seen.

  68. @PeterMX

    The story about Leni and Goebbels and her supposedly tainted ancestry can be found in many American newspapers in 1937. I seem to recall the various wire stories being datelined Paris, though it’s been a while. Around the same time, newspapers were doing full-page feature spreads on her.

  69. Wally says:
    @Greg Bacon

    Must see video:

    Holocaust Hoax for Kids, By The Brother Nathanael Foundation:
    https://codoh.com/library/document/6855/?lang=en
    and:
    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1386

    discussion here:
    Holocaust Hoax For Kids! Brother Nathanael: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12629

  70. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    I had no idea Sontag incested with her own son, but my father actually had a fling with her in the mid-60s. (He also boffed one of three sisters of a famous Jewish singing family, but not the really famous one). I read Sontag in high school and always thought she was a midwit, particularly with On Photography. It was a subject that interested me a lot then.

    My father was not particularly fond of Jews, but not ragingly hateful toward them either. He did order me not to carry on with one Jewish girl I fancied in high school, she was a very good competition swimmer and later , after studying meteorology in college became the #1 “weather girl” on TV in that market. Since she never married and had a public bout with breast cancer I figured she went lesbian later on.

    Ironically a famous WN novelist had a female protagonist in one of his novels with the same name, though spelled more conventionally.

  71. @Franklin Ryckaert

    A book by Steven Bach says she was 1/4 Jewish. But 1/4 Jewish was considered ‘Aryan’ in Nazi Germany.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  72. Sontag was a tremendous essayist. Even her ‘white race is cancer’ essay has much to recommend it as powerful critique of American consumer-imperialism and its dire impact on the world.

  73. Lucas says:
    @anonymous

    God how I hate this Jewish cunt. She defined my stupid four years at McGill during the 80s. But, that was my own fault for being a film and communication major.

  74. @Priss Factor

    1/4 Jewish was NOT considered ‘Aryan’ in NS Germany. It was “mixed race, second degree.” 3/8 to 1/2 Jewish was “mixed race, first degree.”

    Both were “only partly belonging to the German race and nation but approved to have Reich citizenship.”

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  75. @Carolyn Yeager

    1/4 Jewish, 4/4 Jewish hook nose :

    1/4 Jewish, 4/4 Jewish expression on her face :

  76. @Franklin Ryckaert

    You should be replying to Priss Factor, not to me. You seem to have a fixation on me.

  77. @Franklin Ryckaert

    But I will say about your top picture that I have just been looking at photos of Germans of the various “types” including the most common type, the Nordic and that nose appears as German Nordic. It is high set, goes out straight with often a raised bridge and slight indentation 2/3 of the way down, and ends in a soft tip that points just slightly downward. As shown here:
    In those pictures of the 100 year old Reifenstahl, she had just been deformed by old age. Happens to everyone if they live long enough.

    As for the 2nd picture, that is not a “jewish expression” but a 1920-30’s style cinema image of a gypsy-type seductress. The style was to exaggerate the emotion or sentiment being portrayed. Once again, a DNA test is the reliable way to find out. Where’s yours?

  78. Incitatus says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    “I think you are conflating a fleshy nose with a hooked, semitic nose — two different things, although they can both be present. It was the hook in Riefenstahl’s nose at the age of 100 that I didn’t expect.”

    Well, ‘golly’ to both of you! Such weighty issues!

    Yes, the “fleshy nose” versus “hooked, semitic nose” problem that’s troubled humanity from day one. How brave each of you to confront the mind-boggling conundrum!

    Don’t think twice.

    In fact, since neither of you seems able to think once, forget everything and go back to noses.

  79. @Carolyn Yeager

    3 x Leni Riefenstahl, 3 x Jewish expression on her face, while not “playing the gypsy-type seductress” :

    [MORE]

    Finally, Leni Riefenstahl in caricature (meaning obvious) :

    Cheers.

  80. @Carolyn Yeager

    Here comes your “tormentor” once again :

    If you search in Google Images “Leni Riefenstahl with Hitler, Goebbels, and her mother Bertha and her brother Heinz”, you find in the second row, third picture this :

    [MORE]


    quality=50

    Click on the picture itself for the caption where the names of her mother Bertha and her brother Heinz are mentioned. Her mother doesn’t look Jewish at all, but her brother does : that big, fleshy, crooked nose, those thick lips and those beady eyes – the hallmark of the German Mischling !

    Cheers.

  81. I think Leni was wonderful. I have books about her. A collection. Tapes of some of her films. A really brave woman. Yes, worked with Hitler, but then, became enlightened, and broke with him. These rabbis, etc., make fools of anyone telling the truth. They always over-react.

    Read Doestoyevsky’s “The Jewish Question.” Must be a reason why so many great writers see things differently.

    Today, this is a wonderful essay. Thanks a bunch!

  82. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    I consider it tragic that she didn’t get to shoot a Rolling Stones concert film. Jagger knew her, had her do the still photography when he married Bianca as I recall.

  83. @Durruti

    “Hitler’s speeches quite bland”

    Thanks for letting us know who you are, Chaim.

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