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There are more parallels between an unfinished 1950s war in Northeast Asia and an ongoing 16-year-old war in the crossroads between Central and South Asia than meet the eye. Let’s start with North Korea.

Once again the US/South Korea Hunger Games plow on. It didn’t have to be this way.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov explained how: “Russia together with China developed a plan which proposes ‘double freezing’: Kim Jong-un should freeze nuclear tests and stop launching any types of ballistic missiles, while US and South Korea should freeze large-scale drills which are used as a pretext for the North’s tests.”

Call it sound diplomacy. There’s no conclusive evidence the Russia-China strategic partnership floated this plan directly to the administration of US President Donald Trump. Even if they did, the proposal was shot down. The proverbial “military experts” lobbied hard against it, insisting on a lopsided advantage to Pyongyang. Worse, National Security Adviser H R McMaster consistently lobbies for preventative war – as if this is any sort of serious conflict “resolution”.

Meanwhile, that “plan for an enveloping fire” around Guam remains on Kim Jong-un’s table. It is essential to remember the plan was North Korea’s response to Trump’s “fire and fury” volley. Kim has stated that for diplomacy to work again, “it is necessary for the US to make a proper option first”. As in canceling the Ulchi-Freedom Guardian war games – featuring up to 30,000 US soldiers and more than 50,000 South Korean troops.

South Korean President Moon Jae-in dutifully repeats the Pentagon mantra that these Hunger Games, lasting until August 31, are “defensive”. Computer simulations gaming a – very unlikely – unilateral Pyongyang attack may qualify as defense. But Kim and the Korean Central News Agency interpret the war games in essence for what they are: rehearsal for a “decapitation”, a pre-emptive attack yielding regime change.

No wonder the KCNA insists on a possible “catastrophe”. And Beijing, crucially, concurs. The Global Times reasonably argued that “if South Korea really wants no war on the Korean Peninsula, it should try to stop this military exercise”.

Can’t pack up our troubles

It would be a relief to defuse the drama by evoking that great World War I marching song; “Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag/ And smile, smile, smile.”

But this is extremely serious. A China-North Korea mutual defense treaty has been in effect since 1961. Under this framework, Beijing’s response to Trump’s “fire and fury” was a thing of beauty. If Pyongyang attacks, China is neutral. But if the US launches a McMaster-style pre-emptive attack, China intervenes – militarily – on behalf of Pyongyang.

As a clincher, Beijing even made it clear that its preference is for the current status quo to remain. Checkmate.

Hunger Games apart, the rhetorical war in the Korean Peninsula did decrease a substantial notch after China made its position clear. According to a Beltway intel source, that shows “the US and Chinese militaries, as the US and the Russians in Syria, are coordinating to avoid a war”.

Evidence may have been provided by a very important meeting last week between the chairmen of the US and Chinese Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Joseph Dunford and General Fang Fenghui. They signed a deal that the Pentagon spun as able to “reduce the risk of miscalculation” in Northeast Asia.

Among the prodigious fireworks inherent to his departure as White House chief strategist, Steve Bannon nailed it: “There’s no military solution, forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that 10 million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.”

And extra evidence in the “they got us” department is that B-1B heavy bomber “decapitation” practice runs – out of Andersen Air Force Base in Guam – have been quietly “suspended”. This crucial, largely unreported fact in the air supersedes rhetoric from Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Pentagon head James “Mad Dog” Mattis, who previous to Bannon’s exit were stressing “strong military consequences if North Korea chooses wrongly”.

Once again, it’s all about BRI

Now let’s move to Afghanistan. “Mad Dog” Mattis once famously said it was fun to shoot Taliban fighters. “Known unknowns” Don Rumsfeld was more realistic; he moved out of Afghanistan (toward Iraq) because there were not enough good targets to bomb.

Anyone who spent time working/reporting on the Afghan Hindu Kush and the southwestern deserts knows why the proverbial “there’s no military solution” applies. There are myriad reasons, starting with the profound, radicalized Afghan ethnic divide (roughly, 40% are mostly rural, tribal Pashtun, many recruited by the Taliban; almost 30% are Tajik, a great deal of them urban, literate and in government; more than 20% are Hazara Shiites; and 10% are Uzbek).

The bulk of Washington’s “aid” to Kabul throughout these past 16 years has been on the bombing, not the economy, front. Government corruption is cataclysmic. Warlords rule. The Taliban thrive because they offer local protection. Much to Pashtun ire, most of the army is Tajik. Tajik politicians are mostly close to India while most Pashtun favor Pakistan (after all, they have cousins on the other side of the Durand line; enter the dream of a future, reunited Pashtunistan).

On the GWOT (Global War on Terror) front, al-Qaeda would not even exist if the late Dr Zbig “Grand Chessboard” Brzezinski had not come up with the idea of a sprawling, well-weaponized private army of demented jihadis-cum-tribal Afghans fighting the communist government in Kabul during the 1980s. Add to this the myth that the Pentagon needs to be on the ground in Afghanistan to prevent jihadis from attacking America. Al-Qaeda is extinct in Afghanistan. And Daesh does not need territory to concoct/project its DIY jihad.

When the myth of the US in Afghanistan as a categorical imperative is exposed, that may unveil what this is all about: business.

And we’re not even talking about who really profits from large-scale opium/heroin trade.

Two months ago the Afghan ambassador to Washington, Hamdullah Mohib, was breathlessly spinning how “President Trump is keenly interested in Afghanistan’s economic potential”, as in “our estimated $1 trillion in copper, iron ore, rare-earth elements, aluminum, gold, silver, zinc, mercury and lithium”. This led to the proverbial unnamed “US officials” telling Reuters last month that what Trump wants is for the US to demand some of that mineral wealth in exchange for “assisting” Kabul.

A US Geological Survey study a decade ago did identify potential Afghan mineral wealth – gold, silver, platinum, iron ore, uranium, zinc, tantalum, bauxite, coal, natural gas and copper – worth as much as US$1 trillion, with much spin dedicated to Afghanistan as “the Saudi Arabia of lithium”.

And the competition – once again, China – is already there, facing myriad infrastructure and red-tape problems, but concentrated on incorporating Afghanistan, long-term, into the New Silk Roads, aka Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), along with its security cooperation arm, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

It’s no secret the Russia-China strategic partnership wants an Afghan solution hatched by Afghans and supervised by the SCO (of which Afghanistan is an observer and future full member). So from the point of view of neocon/neoliberalcon elements of the War Party in Washington, Afghanistan only makes sense as a forward base to harass/stall/thwart BRI.

What Russia and China want for Afghanistan – yet another node in the process of Eurasia integration – is not much different from what Russia, China and South Korea want for North Korea: increased connectivity as in a future Trans-Korean Railway linked to the Trans-Siberian.

As for Washington and the proverbially bombastic, failed futurists across the Beltway, do they even know what is the end game of “investing” in two never-ending wars with no visible benefits?

Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007), Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge and Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009). His latest book is Empire of Chaos. He may be reached at pepeasia@yahoo.com.

(Republished from Counterpunch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. As Pepe full well knows. there is no parity, much less equating, of the Korean conflict with the NATO-Afghanistan war. Similarly, there is no parity much less equating of the development of nuclear weapons by the Kim Jung-un Nazi-like dictatorship of North Korea with wholly defensive military exercises involving the US and the ROK.

    Such exercises have been ongoing for decades … and have never in any way threatened an invasion of the North by the Republic of Korea – the only legitimate and democratically elected government on the Korean Peninsula!

    We know that the PRC has infiltrated not only the government of Australia but also the government of the USA. Why does Pepe insist upon a flimsy fictional narrative of US-ROK invasion of the North while at the same time attempting to present a nuclear attack on Guam as somehow praise-worthy? Enough is enough. Could there be something in it for Pepe … say, in the form of renminbi?

    BTW: everyone in America knows that what is needed is a thorough and real investigation of the 9-11 events. When that happens, the pretexts for Afghanistan — and for all the others except Korea — will evaporate like the morning dew of a brand-new day. But as Pepe and everyone else knows , is much good reason for USA being in Korea – all of them honorable. National honor has meaning – whether politicians understand that or no History has meaning – whether Pepe pretends ignorance of the real history of the origins of the Korean War, or not.

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    • Replies: @Grandpa Charlie
    The last half of the final paragraph (beginning 'BTW') should be, as follows:

    As Pepe and everyone else knows, there is much good reason for USA being in Korea - entirely honorable. National honor has meaning -- whether greedy and treasonous politicians understand that or not. History has meaning -- whether the likes of Pepe Escobar pretend ignorance of the real history of the Korean War or not.
    , @Intelligent Dasein
    You should go drown yourself in the toilet bowl.
    , @denk
    Recently you mentioned about Chinese 'expansionism' vs India.
    Thats very weird, afaik, there were only Indian expansionisms against China ever since 1962.

    Are you talking about the border skirmish at Donglang ?
    BUt in this case it was the Indians who crossed border into Chinese territory,
    yet another indian expansionism. !

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/07/06/sikkim-stand-off-china-india-collide-himalayas/


    You call yourself a 911 truther, but the way you propagate fake news on China,
    siding with fascist India, is downright neo-conned !
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  2. @Grandpa Charlie
    As Pepe full well knows. there is no parity, much less equating, of the Korean conflict with the NATO-Afghanistan war. Similarly, there is no parity much less equating of the development of nuclear weapons by the Kim Jung-un Nazi-like dictatorship of North Korea with wholly defensive military exercises involving the US and the ROK.

    Such exercises have been ongoing for decades ... and have never in any way threatened an invasion of the North by the Republic of Korea - the only legitimate and democratically elected government on the Korean Peninsula!

    We know that the PRC has infiltrated not only the government of Australia but also the government of the USA. Why does Pepe insist upon a flimsy fictional narrative of US-ROK invasion of the North while at the same time attempting to present a nuclear attack on Guam as somehow praise-worthy? Enough is enough. Could there be something in it for Pepe ... say, in the form of renminbi?

    BTW: everyone in America knows that what is needed is a thorough and real investigation of the 9-11 events. When that happens, the pretexts for Afghanistan -- and for all the others except Korea -- will evaporate like the morning dew of a brand-new day. But as Pepe and everyone else knows , is much good reason for USA being in Korea - all of them honorable. National honor has meaning - whether politicians understand that or no History has meaning - whether Pepe pretends ignorance of the real history of the origins of the Korean War, or not.

    The last half of the final paragraph (beginning ‘BTW’) should be, as follows:

    As Pepe and everyone else knows, there is much good reason for USA being in Korea – entirely honorable. National honor has meaning — whether greedy and treasonous politicians understand that or not. History has meaning — whether the likes of Pepe Escobar pretend ignorance of the real history of the Korean War or not.

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    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
    Grandpa, national honor dictates we send all NEO-COHENS to the gulag and bring home all the boys, girls, and trannies from Korea.
    , @Delinquent Snail
    Why are you so gungho for a war with north korea? America shouldnt be over there. We went there in the first place to block the ussr and to play with our new toys (helicopters).

    South korea is about as Democratic as america. The contestants are paid for by washinton, and when their guy or gal loses, the whole system flips out.
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  3. So climate change must save the USA occupation of Afghanistan.
    The CIA began drugs production in Afghanistan in order to save the CIA.
    I now wonder what was the sequence: seeing the potential of lithium for profit led to the occupation of Afghanistan, or the other way round, once USA imperialism had caused to costly occupation of Afghanistan, was it necessary to invent climate change ?
    Until now Thatcher’s desire to build nuclear power stations was held responsible for the climate hype.

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  4. m___ says:

    Scraping the bottom of the pan. All for each, all for own. The smallest of resources should be scooped up. It turns into pathetic survivalism. There is a ‘commoner’ version, a survival rifle, a bunker, and half a ton of dried beans and cans.

    The world population must be let go, the concept of growth must be let go, No longer can the dress be fitted to the obese lady. The lady has to shrink.

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    The world population must be let go, the concept of growth must be let go, No longer can the dress be fitted to the obese lady. The lady has to shrink.
     
    Let's begin with making the Jewess lady "shrink"... Good? :)
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  5. “As for Washington and the proverbially bombastic, failed futurists across the Beltway, do they even know what is the end game of “investing” in two never-ending wars with no visible benefits?”

    That’s the beauty: There is no end game. it’s a never-ending gravy-train of policy studies, think-tank research, strategy-consulting, and weapons R&D and procurement,with a smattering of foreign aid and economic development money thrown in. Everybody wins … well, everybody who matters.

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    • Replies: @Delinquent Snail
    Its all about "closing the gap".

    "Barnett’s vision is neoconservative to the root. He sees the world as divided into essentially two realms: The Core, which consists of advanced countries playing by the rules of economic globalization (the US, Canada, UK, Europe and Japan) along with developing countries committed to getting there (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and some others); and the rest of the world, which is The Gap, a disparate wilderness of dangerous and lawless countries defined fundamentally by being “disconnected” from the wonders of globalization. This includes most of the Middle East and Africa, large swathes of South America, as well as much of Central Asia and Eastern Europe. It is the task of the United States to “shrink The Gap,” by spreading the cultural and economic “rule-set” of globalization that characterizes The Core, and by enforcing security worldwide to enable that “rule-set” to spread."

    "America as global cop creates security. Security creates common rules. Rules attract foreign investment. Investment creates infrastructure. Infrastructure creates access to natural resources. Resources create economic growth. Growth creates stability. Stability creates markets. And once you’re a growing, stable part of the global market, you’re part of the Core. Mission accomplished"

    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

    The Pentagon's "highlands forum" is the "deepstate", or the closest thing to it that I've found. Its memebers are ranking military officers, high level government officials, "captains of industry". They have been directing America since the 90s. Several members are now part of google, facebook, goldman Sachs, the list goes on and on.
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  6. What’s new ?
    Harry Elmer Barnes, ed., ‘Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace, A critical examination of the foreign policy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt and its aftermath’, Caldwell, Idaho, 1953

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  7. Realist says:

    The US has not won a war since WWII.

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    How about the war on individual liberty and free enterprise?

    The USSA is winning that war.
    , @The Alarmist
    Are you sure we won that one?
    , @jacques sheete

    The US has not won a war since WWII.
     
    The "US" didn't even win that one. The main winners were the banksters and corporatists along with a few politicians and the big Reds of the time. The real winners were those who supported huge centralized bureaucracies while the big losers were those who valued political and economic freedom, and those who desired national sovereignty in something more than name only.

    If, by "US" one includes the middle class including small businessmen yer talking a net loss in what Churchill called the unnecessary war. Unnecessary implies that few of the "deplorables" "won."

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  8. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Isn’t it amazing that as soon as Trump announced four more years of war against Afghanistan, the European terror attacks/False Flags stopped?

    You’d think that by Trump announcing more war against Afghans, that would enrage the
    ‘jihadists’ to pull off more terror attacks, but they faded into nothing.

    Amazing, simply amazing!

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    Russia is accusing US and NATO of bringing ISIS fighters to Afghanistan -according to Indian ex diplomat
    “We can see attempts to stir up ethnic conflict in the country… Cases of unidentified helicopter flights to territory controlled by extremists in other northern provinces of Afghanistan are also recorded. For example, there is evidence that on August 8, four helicopters made flights from the airbase of the Afghan National Army’s 209th corps in Mazar-i-Sharif to the area captured by the militants in the Aqcha district of the Jowzjan province. It is noteworthy that witnesses of these flights began to fall off the radar of law enforcement agencies. It seems that the command of the NATO forces controlling the Afghan sky stubbornly refuses to notice these incidents.” http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2017/08/20/afghanistan-is-ripe-for-proxy-war/


    Ambassador Zamir Kabulov, Russian presidential envoy to Afghanistan, said recently that if the Afghan government and the US are unable to counter the IS threat, Russia will resort to military force. Kabulov disclosed that Russia has raised in the UN Security Council the air dropping of supplies for the IS fighters in at least three provinces in northern Afghanistan by unidentified aircraft http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2017/08/20/afghanistan-is-ripe-for-proxy-war/

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  9. @Grandpa Charlie
    The last half of the final paragraph (beginning 'BTW') should be, as follows:

    As Pepe and everyone else knows, there is much good reason for USA being in Korea - entirely honorable. National honor has meaning -- whether greedy and treasonous politicians understand that or not. History has meaning -- whether the likes of Pepe Escobar pretend ignorance of the real history of the Korean War or not.

    Grandpa, national honor dictates we send all NEO-COHENS to the gulag and bring home all the boys, girls, and trannies from Korea.

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    National honor requires a real investigation into the events of September 11, 2001. Well, we are getting that in bits and pieces - thanks to Truthers - but we need the whole thing, including prosecutions and the naming of names.

    We need to get at the root!
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  10. @Realist
    The US has not won a war since WWII.

    How about the war on individual liberty and free enterprise?

    The USSA is winning that war.

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    Yes, the rich get richer.
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  11. @Realist
    The US has not won a war since WWII.

    Are you sure we won that one?

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    No
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  12. The Zionist neocon agenda is to keep us in a state of perpetual fear and in perpetual wars for as George Orwell said , wars are not meant to be won they are meant to keep the state in control and keep the proles in a state of continual poverty and fear.

    There will be wars forever until and unless the Zionist neocon control over America is ended and as of now it appears there is no end in sight. England invaded Afghanistan in 1838 and did not leave until 1919 so as a template the Zionist neocons have another 64 years to go defending their CIA and MOSSAD drug running and spilling American blood in Afghanistan.

    We are Oceania.

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    • Replies: @MarkinPNW
    I remember a statement by Hitler, paraphrasing, that perpetual low-conflict COIN type war in the to be conquered Eastern European/Russian land mass would be good for maintaining the German martial spirit, and how he was vilified and condemned by the western Allies for such a statement.
    , @Delinquent Snail
    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

    You would find this article worthy of your time.
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  13. @Realist
    The US has not won a war since WWII.

    The US has not won a war since WWII.

    The “US” didn’t even win that one. The main winners were the banksters and corporatists along with a few politicians and the big Reds of the time. The real winners were those who supported huge centralized bureaucracies while the big losers were those who valued political and economic freedom, and those who desired national sovereignty in something more than name only.

    If, by “US” one includes the middle class including small businessmen yer talking a net loss in what Churchill called the unnecessary war. Unnecessary implies that few of the “deplorables” “won.”

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    Right you are.
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  14. As always, Mr Escobar makes too much of a play of “the Russia-China strategic partnership”. If anything, shouldn’t it be “China-Russia”? China has ten times Russia’s population and is the rising power of this century. Russia is a declining cold war dinosaur, the largest remnant of the old Soviet Union. Logically, China should be the dominant party in whatever “strategic partnership” may exist between them. As always, he makes a series of unsubstantiated claims, all of which lead to the conclusion that Putin is bound to “win” because he has China in his pocket.
    Trump needs a war that will benefit him. He tried to pick a fight with China over some islands. Didn’t work. He tried to pick a fight with North Korea. Didn’t work. Now, he’s trying his hand in Afghanistan. That won’t work either. State parties always lose guerrilla wars. Trump is slowly “slouching” towards the one and only war that he can win and that will benefit him: the “war on Putin”. If he can get Putin out of Ukraine, one way or the other, (Syria is just a means to that end), he will kill Russiagate stone dead before it widens into a general investigation of his business links to Russia, his taxes and the amount of taxpayers’ money he is, in effect, pouring into his own pocket by staying weekend after weekend in resorts he himself owns.

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    Trump is slowly “slouching” towards the one and only war that he can win and that will benefit him: the “war on Putin”. If he can get Putin out of Ukraine, one way or the other...
     
    Trump can win this one? Very doubtful. Specially since he's not even trying to. He doesn't consider Putin an enemy, nor viceversa.

    The 'elites' consider Putin an enemy, and they're right about that, and it's a mutual feeling. But that's a different beast already.

    And Russia is not a declining cold war dinosaur. Russia has a very small public debt compared to that of the USA, and Russia also has enormous reserves in money and gold. Plus enormous reserves of gas, that Europe desperately needs. Plus the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world.

    As for making Putin get out of Ukraine, I can't see how. The American coup d'etat failed miserably (as often does), and when the CIA, ehr, I mean, when the government in Kiev tries to push the matter, Ukraine ends up losing territory to Russia.

    Putin is a lot smarter than all the Neocons put together, so, how in the hell? As for Trump, the last thing he's thinking of is Ukraine. He couldn't care less, one way or the other.

    These days, China and Russia are already doing business totally ignoring the American currency, to the chagrin of the "Federal" Reserve.

    If there's a declining dinosaur gasping for breath, that's America. As for your reading od Trump's motives, not very accurate. He's well-intentioned, but is being overpowered by the much trickier Jewish cabal.

    Never get a Jewish son in law :)

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  15. KA says:
    @Greg Bacon
    Isn't it amazing that as soon as Trump announced four more years of war against Afghanistan, the European terror attacks/False Flags stopped?

    You'd think that by Trump announcing more war against Afghans, that would enrage the
    'jihadists' to pull off more terror attacks, but they faded into nothing.

    Amazing, simply amazing!

    Russia is accusing US and NATO of bringing ISIS fighters to Afghanistan -according to Indian ex diplomat
    “We can see attempts to stir up ethnic conflict in the country… Cases of unidentified helicopter flights to territory controlled by extremists in other northern provinces of Afghanistan are also recorded. For example, there is evidence that on August 8, four helicopters made flights from the airbase of the Afghan National Army’s 209th corps in Mazar-i-Sharif to the area captured by the militants in the Aqcha district of the Jowzjan province. It is noteworthy that witnesses of these flights began to fall off the radar of law enforcement agencies. It seems that the command of the NATO forces controlling the Afghan sky stubbornly refuses to notice these incidents.” http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2017/08/20/afghanistan-is-ripe-for-proxy-war/

    Ambassador Zamir Kabulov, Russian presidential envoy to Afghanistan, said recently that if the Afghan government and the US are unable to counter the IS threat, Russia will resort to military force. Kabulov disclosed that Russia has raised in the UN Security Council the air dropping of supplies for the IS fighters in at least three provinces in northern Afghanistan by unidentified aircraft http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2017/08/20/afghanistan-is-ripe-for-proxy-war/

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  16. KA says:

    “On Thursday, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson raised the bar by alleging that “foreign fighters” who were transferred by “unknown helicopters” have perpetrated a massacre of Hazara Shias in the Sar-e-Pol province in northern Afghanistan. The spokesperson said:

    We can see attempts to stir up ethnic conflict in the country… Cases of unidentified helicopter flights to territory controlled by extremists in other northern provinces of Afghanistan are also recorded. For example, there is evidence that on August 8, ……”

    http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2017/08/20/afghanistan-is-ripe-for-proxy-war/

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  17. KA says:

    The rare occasion the media swoons over Trump: when he embraces war

    a president delivering a major address on troop deployments for the longest war in American history and reporters can only think about optics, not policy. The Twitter commentary treats Trump’s address as something like a beauty pageant.

    War, though, triggers something else in the reporter class. As the disgraced Brian Williams, swooning over cruise missiles laying waste to a Syrian airfield, showed us a few months back,

    There is nothing quite as presidential, in Washington’s eyes, as a war. A war allows the most shallow, flailing and destructive presidencies to be redeemed in the eyes of the media, at least for a day://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/22/positive-trump-media-coverage-when-he-embraces-war

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    • Replies: @Art
    The rare occasion the media swoons over Trump: when he embraces war

    Correction: The rare occasion the Jew MSM swoons over Trump: when he embraces war

    Think Peace --- Art
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  18. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    From the point of view of the DPRK a ‘double freeze’ would be a trap. It would stymie it’s development of a nuclear deterrent even though the US could renege at any time. It wants that deterrent to settle the issue of it’s vulnerability once and for all after living under the threat of nuclear attack since the end of the war. It’s going to go ahead and develop it and there’s nothing anyone else can do about it. Any attempt to attack it is now recognized as being probably catastrophic and a loser for the US.
    Insofar as the Pashtun being 40% of the population of Afghanistan there’s many more on the other side of the Durand line which they don’t recognize and who add to their weight. Unlike AQ and IS the Taliban are a local product and doesn’t export well. May as well recognize reality, the Taliban are on their second-third generation and aren’t going anywhere. Trying to oust them with some new tricks is futile.

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  19. Erebus says:

    Thierry Meyssan thinks the world doesn’t yet understand the US’ Imperial Strategy following 9/11. It is jauntily summarized by Pepe as “Empire of Chaos”, as if it was trying to be an Empire, but somehow prevented from properly becoming one because of the bumbling fools that are running it. Much more sinister than that, American Imperial Strategy has chaos at its core, and it’s deadly serious about it.

    This strategy, radically new, was taught by Thomas P. M. Barnett following 11-September 2001. It was publicly revealed and exposed in March 2003 – that is, just before the war against Iraq— in an article in Esquire, then in the eponym book, The Pentagon’s New Map. However, such a strategy appears so cruel in design, that no one imagined it could be implemented.
    Imperialism seeks to divide the world in two. One part will be a stable area which profits from the system while in the other part a terrifying chaos will reign. This other will be a zone, where all thought of resisting has been wiped it; where every thought is fixated on surviving; an area where the multinationals can extract raw materials which they need without any duty to account to anyone.

    Translated from the French, Parts 1 & 2 are here:

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article197477.html

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article197541.html

    He goes on to maintain that Assad was the first leader to understand this strategy, and his development of a counter strategy is the principle reason for his continued, indeed enhanced reign. If they didn’t then, I have a feeling that Putin & Xi now also understand, and that some of their counter-strategies are becoming visible.

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    I linked an article that talks about barnett's role in our current predicament. Its a rather large article and covers a lot, but its a MUST READ to understand whats going on in the world.

    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e
    , @white noise

    He goes on to maintain that Assad was the first leader to understand this strategy, and his development of a counter strategy is the principle reason for his continued, indeed enhanced reign. If they didn’t then, I have a feeling that Putin & Xi now also understand, and that some of their counter-strategies are becoming visible.
     
    And it is you who got it right... Putin is actively sabotaging the 'elites' every move. So, yes, he clearly understands what the stakes are. And it is in the best interests of China to draw an alliance with Russia. Simply because of geography.

    It is no coincidence that China and Russia keep having joint military exercises. A show off, perhaps, but jointly. Besides, right now these two are drafting the terms of a long term financial partnership... bypassing the American dollar.

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  20. nickels says:

    All pivots must be continually occupied.

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  21. Art says:

    Clearly against his inclinations, Trump has succumbed to the Deep State on the Afghanistan war – the Jews and the generals have overcome America’s best interests. Generals always want war – it is the Jews who are the 800-pound gorilla in America’s foreign policy.

    Leaving Afghanistan is not a viable alternative because there is no organized American peace movement. Trump just cannot make the move by himself – he has ZERO organized political backing to do so.

    We can thank the Jews for this – they are 100% guilty and responsible for the US government’s endless war footing. The Jews enforce their war agenda in a thousand diverse ways.

    The Jew media will not give a peace movement the interest that it needs to get started. The Jew control of higher education will not give their students the freedom and encouragement that it takes to make peace. Jew divide and conquer feminization, demands women be part of war – not to be their natural selves and opposed war.

    The Jew is the enemy of peace in our times – period.

    Think peace — Art

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  22. Sean says:

    As for Washington and the proverbially bombastic, failed futurists across the Beltway, do they even know what is the end game of “investing” in two never-ending wars with no visible benefits?

    You start by assuming that the absence of war is the ultimate good, but none can say what a world without war would be like, or how long it would last.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/20/wars-john-gray-conflict-peace
    Has the world seen moral progress? The answer should not depend on whether one has a sunny or a morose temperament. Everyone agrees that life is better than death, health better than sickness, prosperity better than privation, freedom better than tyranny, peace better than war. All of these can be measured, and the results plotted over time. If they go up, that’s progress.

    For John Gray, this is a big problem. As a part of his campaign against reason, science and Enlightenment humanism, he insists that the strivings of humanity over the centuries have left us no better off. This dyspepsia was hard enough to sustain when Gray first expressed it in the teeth of obvious counterexamples such as the abolition of human sacrifice, chattel slavery and public torture-executions. But as scholars have increasingly measured human flourishing, they have found that Gray is not just wrong but howlingly, flat-earth, couldn’t-be-more-wrong wrong. The numbers show that after millennia of near-universal poverty and despotism, a steadily growing proportion of humankind is surviving infancy and childbirth, going to school, voting in democracies, living free of disease, enjoying the necessities of modern life and surviving to old age.

    And more people are living in peace. In the 1980s several military scholars noticed to their astonishment that the most destructive form of armed conflict – wars among great powers and developed states – had effectively ceased to exist. At the time this “long peace” could have been dismissed as a random lull, but it has held firm for an additional three decades.

    In my opinion Gray, though wrong that violence is not decreasing, is onto something about the future being bleak because of the rise of meliorist assumptions, because perpetual peace will be humanity’s tomb.

    While many suggest a danger for our world along the lines of Brian Cox’s explanation for the Fermi Paradox (ie intelligent life forms cross grainedly bring on self-annihilation through unlimited war) I take a different view.

    Given that Pinker appears substantially correct that serious war (ie wars among great powers and developed states) have effectively ceased to exist, the trend is for peace and cooperation. Martin Nowak in his book The Supercoperators shows cooperation, not fighting, to be the defining human trait (and indeed the most cooperative groups won their wars in history, whereby nation states such the US are the result of not just individuals but familial tribal regional , and virtually continental groupings coming together for mutual advantage and defence. The future is going to be global integration pursuit of economic objectives, and I think this exponential moral progress bill begat technological advances beyond imagining.. An escape from the war trap is almost complete and the Singularity becones. The most likely culprit in the paradox is a technological black hole event horizon created by unlimited peace and progress.

    Cross-grained though it may be to say that the good war hallows every cause, I think it not so bad in comparison with the alternative.

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    The future is going to be global integration pursuit of economic objectives,
     
    I'll let Vladimir Putin comment on that:

    "These days, not without reason, the mere mentioning of globalization is suspect. When we hear about globalization, we must be aware that our national values are at risk, and we must jump to defend them at all costs. Look at the sorry state of Europe now, and you'll understand what I mean. Because globalization has always been just an excuse for cynical exploitation and control, we must be vigilant at all times, to confront the common enemy as he deserves. We can always cooperate and be friends, but at the same time remain vigilant, to protect our nations and our national identity from predators"

    These words, by the way, echo the words of Donald Trump in Poland, a few days ago. So, these two are not at odds, as the 'elites' would have you believe.

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  23. Art says:
    @KA
    The rare occasion the media swoons over Trump: when he embraces war

    a president delivering a major address on troop deployments for the longest war in American history and reporters can only think about optics, not policy. The Twitter commentary treats Trump’s address as something like a beauty pageant.


    War, though, triggers something else in the reporter class. As the disgraced Brian Williams, swooning over cruise missiles laying waste to a Syrian airfield, showed us a few months back,

    There is nothing quite as presidential, in Washington’s eyes, as a war. A war allows the most shallow, flailing and destructive presidencies to be redeemed in the eyes of the media, at least for a day://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/22/positive-trump-media-coverage-when-he-embraces-war

    .

    The rare occasion the media swoons over Trump: when he embraces war

    Correction: The rare occasion the Jew MSM swoons over Trump: when he embraces war

    Think Peace — Art

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  24. schrub says:

    People who seem to think that Trump’s generals will somehow go along and support his original vision are sadly mistaken.

    Since 2003, Israel has had an increasingly strong hand in the vetting who gets promoted to upper positions in the American armed forces. All of the generals Trump has at his side went through a vetting procedure which definitely involved a very close look at their opinions about Israel.

    Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski has written extensively about the purges of the patriots in the Defense Department that happened in Washington during the lead up and after the commencement of the Iraq war in 2003.

    Officers who openly oppose the dictates of the Israel Lobby will see their prospects for advancement simply vanish like a whiff of smoke.. Those who support Israel’s machinations are rewarded with promotions, the more fervent the support the more rapid the promotion especially if this knowledge is made known to their congressman or senator..

    Generals who support Israel already know that this support will be heavily rewarded after their retirements by being given lucrative six figure positions on company boards of directors or positions in equally lucrative think tanks like the American Enterprise Institution or the Hoover Institute. They will receive hefty speaking fees. as well. They learned early that their retirements could be truly glorious if they only “went” along with The Lobby. They will be able to then live the good life in expensive places like Washington, New York or San Francisco, often invited to glitzy parties with unlimited amount of free prawns “the size of your hand”.

    On the other hand, upper officers who somehow get then get “bad” reputations for their negative views about Israel ( like Karen U. Kwiatkowski for instance) will end up, once retired, having to depend on just their often scanty pensions This requires getting an often demeaning second jobs to get by in some place where “their dollar goes further”. No bright lights in big cities for them. No speaking fees, no college jobs. Once their fate becomes known, their still active duty contemporaries suddenly decide to “go along”.

    If anybody thinks what I have written is an exaggeration, research what the late Admiral Thomas Moorer had to say years ago about the total infiltration of the Defense Department by Israeli agents.

    Face it, we live in a country under occupation by a hostile power that we willingly pay large amounts monetary tribute to. Our government does whatever benefits Israel regardless of how negatively this effects the USA. We are increasing troop strength in Afghanistan because, somehow, this benefits Israel. If our presence in Afghanistan (or the Mideast in general) didn’t benefit Israel, our troops would simply not be there.

    We are all Palestinians.

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    Face it, we live in a country under occupation by a hostile power that we willingly pay large amounts monetary tribute to. Our government does whatever benefits Israel regardless of how negatively this effects the USA. We are increasing troop strength in Afghanistan because, somehow, this benefits Israel. If our presence in Afghanistan (or the Mideast in general) didn’t benefit Israel, our troops would simply not be there.

    We are all Palestinians.
     

    I couldn't have said it better. And there are the ones who think that it is Trump who is plotting war!! These ones are either just not aware of how things really are, or else they are deliberately trying to take the spotlight off the Jews and Israel as the real troublemakers they have always been.
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  25. MarkinPNW says:
    @DESERT FOX
    The Zionist neocon agenda is to keep us in a state of perpetual fear and in perpetual wars for as George Orwell said , wars are not meant to be won they are meant to keep the state in control and keep the proles in a state of continual poverty and fear.

    There will be wars forever until and unless the Zionist neocon control over America is ended and as of now it appears there is no end in sight. England invaded Afghanistan in 1838 and did not leave until 1919 so as a template the Zionist neocons have another 64 years to go defending their CIA and MOSSAD drug running and spilling American blood in Afghanistan.

    We are Oceania.

    I remember a statement by Hitler, paraphrasing, that perpetual low-conflict COIN type war in the to be conquered Eastern European/Russian land mass would be good for maintaining the German martial spirit, and how he was vilified and condemned by the western Allies for such a statement.

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  26. @Grandpa Charlie
    The last half of the final paragraph (beginning 'BTW') should be, as follows:

    As Pepe and everyone else knows, there is much good reason for USA being in Korea - entirely honorable. National honor has meaning -- whether greedy and treasonous politicians understand that or not. History has meaning -- whether the likes of Pepe Escobar pretend ignorance of the real history of the Korean War or not.

    Why are you so gungho for a war with north korea? America shouldnt be over there. We went there in the first place to block the ussr and to play with our new toys (helicopters).

    South korea is about as Democratic as america. The contestants are paid for by washinton, and when their guy or gal loses, the whole system flips out.

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    Yes, I know, Delinquent Snail, I've heard it all before. But what it all comes down to - what your remarks come down to:

    Psychopathic narcissistic billionaire-dictator Kim Jung-un = GOOD (deserving of reward and praise)

    People of the Republic of Korea = BAD (deserving of punishment and opprobrium)

    Try this instead:

    Globalist narcissistic billionaires (including the homicidal Kim Jung-un) = BAD (deserving to be disliked and distrusted by all the world's peoples)
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  27. @The Alarmist

    "As for Washington and the proverbially bombastic, failed futurists across the Beltway, do they even know what is the end game of “investing” in two never-ending wars with no visible benefits?"
     
    That's the beauty: There is no end game. it's a never-ending gravy-train of policy studies, think-tank research, strategy-consulting, and weapons R&D and procurement,with a smattering of foreign aid and economic development money thrown in. Everybody wins ... well, everybody who matters.

    Its all about “closing the gap”.

    “Barnett’s vision is neoconservative to the root. He sees the world as divided into essentially two realms: The Core, which consists of advanced countries playing by the rules of economic globalization (the US, Canada, UK, Europe and Japan) along with developing countries committed to getting there (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and some others); and the rest of the world, which is The Gap, a disparate wilderness of dangerous and lawless countries defined fundamentally by being “disconnected” from the wonders of globalization. This includes most of the Middle East and Africa, large swathes of South America, as well as much of Central Asia and Eastern Europe. It is the task of the United States to “shrink The Gap,” by spreading the cultural and economic “rule-set” of globalization that characterizes The Core, and by enforcing security worldwide to enable that “rule-set” to spread.”

    “America as global cop creates security. Security creates common rules. Rules attract foreign investment. Investment creates infrastructure. Infrastructure creates access to natural resources. Resources create economic growth. Growth creates stability. Stability creates markets. And once you’re a growing, stable part of the global market, you’re part of the Core. Mission accomplished”

    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

    The Pentagon’s “highlands forum” is the “deepstate”, or the closest thing to it that I’ve found. Its memebers are ranking military officers, high level government officials, “captains of industry”. They have been directing America since the 90s. Several members are now part of google, facebook, goldman Sachs, the list goes on and on.

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  28. @DESERT FOX
    The Zionist neocon agenda is to keep us in a state of perpetual fear and in perpetual wars for as George Orwell said , wars are not meant to be won they are meant to keep the state in control and keep the proles in a state of continual poverty and fear.

    There will be wars forever until and unless the Zionist neocon control over America is ended and as of now it appears there is no end in sight. England invaded Afghanistan in 1838 and did not leave until 1919 so as a template the Zionist neocons have another 64 years to go defending their CIA and MOSSAD drug running and spilling American blood in Afghanistan.

    We are Oceania.
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    Thanks for the link.
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  29. @Erebus
    Thierry Meyssan thinks the world doesn't yet understand the US' Imperial Strategy following 9/11. It is jauntily summarized by Pepe as "Empire of Chaos", as if it was trying to be an Empire, but somehow prevented from properly becoming one because of the bumbling fools that are running it. Much more sinister than that, American Imperial Strategy has chaos at its core, and it's deadly serious about it.

    This strategy, radically new, was taught by Thomas P. M. Barnett following 11-September 2001. It was publicly revealed and exposed in March 2003 – that is, just before the war against Iraq— in an article in Esquire, then in the eponym book, The Pentagon’s New Map. However, such a strategy appears so cruel in design, that no one imagined it could be implemented.
    Imperialism seeks to divide the world in two. One part will be a stable area which profits from the system while in the other part a terrifying chaos will reign. This other will be a zone, where all thought of resisting has been wiped it; where every thought is fixated on surviving; an area where the multinationals can extract raw materials which they need without any duty to account to anyone.
     
    Translated from the French, Parts 1 & 2 are here:
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article197477.html
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article197541.html

    He goes on to maintain that Assad was the first leader to understand this strategy, and his development of a counter strategy is the principle reason for his continued, indeed enhanced reign. If they didn't then, I have a feeling that Putin & Xi now also understand, and that some of their counter-strategies are becoming visible.

    I linked an article that talks about barnett’s role in our current predicament. Its a rather large article and covers a lot, but its a MUST READ to understand whats going on in the world.

    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

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    Thanks for the link. I see you've put it up 3x, so I'll make a point of reading it ASAP.
    Understanding the world through the prism of this new strategy is to realize how little currently stands between them and success. Orwell's hour has come round at last, it seems.
    Of course, should they fail, a world of hurt will come to America's homeland and any allies that stick with them. Madness. They can't imagine a world not ruled by them.
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  30. I’m more concerned about the invisible war being waged by tech giants run by a certain tribe. Have you noticed how they force you to login with a Google or Facebook account. Even dating apps are skewed to match left leaning people with conservatives or like Tinder used in industrial espionage like a honey trap to match an operative with a target. There is invisible social engineering going on by the globalists to ID everyone and target them through subtle means.

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    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e
    This needs to be read by everyone lol

    It provides evidence to your assertion.
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  31. Realist says:
    @jacques sheete

    The US has not won a war since WWII.
     
    The "US" didn't even win that one. The main winners were the banksters and corporatists along with a few politicians and the big Reds of the time. The real winners were those who supported huge centralized bureaucracies while the big losers were those who valued political and economic freedom, and those who desired national sovereignty in something more than name only.

    If, by "US" one includes the middle class including small businessmen yer talking a net loss in what Churchill called the unnecessary war. Unnecessary implies that few of the "deplorables" "won."

    Right you are.

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  32. Realist says:
    @The Alarmist
    Are you sure we won that one?

    No

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  33. Realist says:
    @Liberty Mike
    How about the war on individual liberty and free enterprise?

    The USSA is winning that war.

    Yes, the rich get richer.

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  34. @Delinquent Snail
    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

    You would find this article worthy of your time.

    Thanks for the link.

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  35. @Liberty Mike
    Grandpa, national honor dictates we send all NEO-COHENS to the gulag and bring home all the boys, girls, and trannies from Korea.

    National honor requires a real investigation into the events of September 11, 2001. Well, we are getting that in bits and pieces – thanks to Truthers – but we need the whole thing, including prosecutions and the naming of names.

    We need to get at the root!

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  36. @Delinquent Snail
    Why are you so gungho for a war with north korea? America shouldnt be over there. We went there in the first place to block the ussr and to play with our new toys (helicopters).

    South korea is about as Democratic as america. The contestants are paid for by washinton, and when their guy or gal loses, the whole system flips out.

    Yes, I know, Delinquent Snail, I’ve heard it all before. But what it all comes down to – what your remarks come down to:

    Psychopathic narcissistic billionaire-dictator Kim Jung-un = GOOD (deserving of reward and praise)

    People of the Republic of Korea = BAD (deserving of punishment and opprobrium)

    Try this instead:

    Globalist narcissistic billionaires (including the homicidal Kim Jung-un) = BAD (deserving to be disliked and distrusted by all the world’s peoples)

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    "what your remarks come down to:

    Psychopathic narcissistic billionaire-dictator Kim Jung-un = GOOD (deserving of reward and praise)

    People of the Republic of Korea = BAD (deserving of punishment and opprobrium)"

    Lol i didnt say anything close to that. I said we need to not be there. Let the KOREANS DEAL WITH KOREAN PROBLEMS. In case you have been asleep for nearly 40 years, americans have more then enough problems on our own continent.


    Watch out guys, grandpa is off his meds again!
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  37. @suspicious
    I'm more concerned about the invisible war being waged by tech giants run by a certain tribe. Have you noticed how they force you to login with a Google or Facebook account. Even dating apps are skewed to match left leaning people with conservatives or like Tinder used in industrial espionage like a honey trap to match an operative with a target. There is invisible social engineering going on by the globalists to ID everyone and target them through subtle means.

    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

    This needs to be read by everyone lol

    It provides evidence to your assertion.

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  38. @Grandpa Charlie
    Yes, I know, Delinquent Snail, I've heard it all before. But what it all comes down to - what your remarks come down to:

    Psychopathic narcissistic billionaire-dictator Kim Jung-un = GOOD (deserving of reward and praise)

    People of the Republic of Korea = BAD (deserving of punishment and opprobrium)

    Try this instead:

    Globalist narcissistic billionaires (including the homicidal Kim Jung-un) = BAD (deserving to be disliked and distrusted by all the world's peoples)

    “what your remarks come down to:

    Psychopathic narcissistic billionaire-dictator Kim Jung-un = GOOD (deserving of reward and praise)

    People of the Republic of Korea = BAD (deserving of punishment and opprobrium)”

    Lol i didnt say anything close to that. I said we need to not be there. Let the KOREANS DEAL WITH KOREAN PROBLEMS. In case you have been asleep for nearly 40 years, americans have more then enough problems on our own continent.

    Watch out guys, grandpa is off his meds again!

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  39. Erebus says:
    @Delinquent Snail
    I linked an article that talks about barnett's role in our current predicament. Its a rather large article and covers a lot, but its a MUST READ to understand whats going on in the world.

    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

    Thanks for the link. I see you’ve put it up 3x, so I’ll make a point of reading it ASAP.
    Understanding the world through the prism of this new strategy is to realize how little currently stands between them and success. Orwell’s hour has come round at last, it seems.
    Of course, should they fail, a world of hurt will come to America’s homeland and any allies that stick with them. Madness. They can’t imagine a world not ruled by them.

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    They call it the long war. Its not supposed to be won, just continued.

    Once it crashes to the ground, you are probably right about what will happen. America will be hit by everyone, and few will stand by our side.

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  40. @Erebus
    Thanks for the link. I see you've put it up 3x, so I'll make a point of reading it ASAP.
    Understanding the world through the prism of this new strategy is to realize how little currently stands between them and success. Orwell's hour has come round at last, it seems.
    Of course, should they fail, a world of hurt will come to America's homeland and any allies that stick with them. Madness. They can't imagine a world not ruled by them.

    They call it the long war. Its not supposed to be won, just continued.

    Once it crashes to the ground, you are probably right about what will happen. America will be hit by everyone, and few will stand by our side.

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  41. @m___
    Scraping the bottom of the pan. All for each, all for own. The smallest of resources should be scooped up. It turns into pathetic survivalism. There is a 'commoner' version, a survival rifle, a bunker, and half a ton of dried beans and cans.

    The world population must be let go, the concept of growth must be let go, No longer can the dress be fitted to the obese lady. The lady has to shrink.

    The world population must be let go, the concept of growth must be let go, No longer can the dress be fitted to the obese lady. The lady has to shrink.

    Let’s begin with making the Jewess lady “shrink”… Good? :)

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  42. @Grandpa Charlie
    As Pepe full well knows. there is no parity, much less equating, of the Korean conflict with the NATO-Afghanistan war. Similarly, there is no parity much less equating of the development of nuclear weapons by the Kim Jung-un Nazi-like dictatorship of North Korea with wholly defensive military exercises involving the US and the ROK.

    Such exercises have been ongoing for decades ... and have never in any way threatened an invasion of the North by the Republic of Korea - the only legitimate and democratically elected government on the Korean Peninsula!

    We know that the PRC has infiltrated not only the government of Australia but also the government of the USA. Why does Pepe insist upon a flimsy fictional narrative of US-ROK invasion of the North while at the same time attempting to present a nuclear attack on Guam as somehow praise-worthy? Enough is enough. Could there be something in it for Pepe ... say, in the form of renminbi?

    BTW: everyone in America knows that what is needed is a thorough and real investigation of the 9-11 events. When that happens, the pretexts for Afghanistan -- and for all the others except Korea -- will evaporate like the morning dew of a brand-new day. But as Pepe and everyone else knows , is much good reason for USA being in Korea - all of them honorable. National honor has meaning - whether politicians understand that or no History has meaning - whether Pepe pretends ignorance of the real history of the origins of the Korean War, or not.

    You should go drown yourself in the toilet bowl.

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  43. @Michael Kenny
    As always, Mr Escobar makes too much of a play of “the Russia-China strategic partnership”. If anything, shouldn’t it be “China-Russia”? China has ten times Russia’s population and is the rising power of this century. Russia is a declining cold war dinosaur, the largest remnant of the old Soviet Union. Logically, China should be the dominant party in whatever “strategic partnership” may exist between them. As always, he makes a series of unsubstantiated claims, all of which lead to the conclusion that Putin is bound to “win” because he has China in his pocket.
    Trump needs a war that will benefit him. He tried to pick a fight with China over some islands. Didn’t work. He tried to pick a fight with North Korea. Didn’t work. Now, he’s trying his hand in Afghanistan. That won’t work either. State parties always lose guerrilla wars. Trump is slowly “slouching” towards the one and only war that he can win and that will benefit him: the “war on Putin”. If he can get Putin out of Ukraine, one way or the other, (Syria is just a means to that end), he will kill Russiagate stone dead before it widens into a general investigation of his business links to Russia, his taxes and the amount of taxpayers’ money he is, in effect, pouring into his own pocket by staying weekend after weekend in resorts he himself owns.

    Trump is slowly “slouching” towards the one and only war that he can win and that will benefit him: the “war on Putin”. If he can get Putin out of Ukraine, one way or the other…

    Trump can win this one? Very doubtful. Specially since he’s not even trying to. He doesn’t consider Putin an enemy, nor viceversa.

    The ‘elites’ consider Putin an enemy, and they’re right about that, and it’s a mutual feeling. But that’s a different beast already.

    And Russia is not a declining cold war dinosaur. Russia has a very small public debt compared to that of the USA, and Russia also has enormous reserves in money and gold. Plus enormous reserves of gas, that Europe desperately needs. Plus the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world.

    As for making Putin get out of Ukraine, I can’t see how. The American coup d’etat failed miserably (as often does), and when the CIA, ehr, I mean, when the government in Kiev tries to push the matter, Ukraine ends up losing territory to Russia.

    Putin is a lot smarter than all the Neocons put together, so, how in the hell? As for Trump, the last thing he’s thinking of is Ukraine. He couldn’t care less, one way or the other.

    These days, China and Russia are already doing business totally ignoring the American currency, to the chagrin of the “Federal” Reserve.

    If there’s a declining dinosaur gasping for breath, that’s America. As for your reading od Trump’s motives, not very accurate. He’s well-intentioned, but is being overpowered by the much trickier Jewish cabal.

    Never get a Jewish son in law :)

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  44. @Erebus
    Thierry Meyssan thinks the world doesn't yet understand the US' Imperial Strategy following 9/11. It is jauntily summarized by Pepe as "Empire of Chaos", as if it was trying to be an Empire, but somehow prevented from properly becoming one because of the bumbling fools that are running it. Much more sinister than that, American Imperial Strategy has chaos at its core, and it's deadly serious about it.

    This strategy, radically new, was taught by Thomas P. M. Barnett following 11-September 2001. It was publicly revealed and exposed in March 2003 – that is, just before the war against Iraq— in an article in Esquire, then in the eponym book, The Pentagon’s New Map. However, such a strategy appears so cruel in design, that no one imagined it could be implemented.
    Imperialism seeks to divide the world in two. One part will be a stable area which profits from the system while in the other part a terrifying chaos will reign. This other will be a zone, where all thought of resisting has been wiped it; where every thought is fixated on surviving; an area where the multinationals can extract raw materials which they need without any duty to account to anyone.
     
    Translated from the French, Parts 1 & 2 are here:
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article197477.html
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article197541.html

    He goes on to maintain that Assad was the first leader to understand this strategy, and his development of a counter strategy is the principle reason for his continued, indeed enhanced reign. If they didn't then, I have a feeling that Putin & Xi now also understand, and that some of their counter-strategies are becoming visible.

    He goes on to maintain that Assad was the first leader to understand this strategy, and his development of a counter strategy is the principle reason for his continued, indeed enhanced reign. If they didn’t then, I have a feeling that Putin & Xi now also understand, and that some of their counter-strategies are becoming visible.

    And it is you who got it right… Putin is actively sabotaging the ‘elites’ every move. So, yes, he clearly understands what the stakes are. And it is in the best interests of China to draw an alliance with Russia. Simply because of geography.

    It is no coincidence that China and Russia keep having joint military exercises. A show off, perhaps, but jointly. Besides, right now these two are drafting the terms of a long term financial partnership… bypassing the American dollar.

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    Putin is actively sabotaging the ‘elites’ every move. So, yes, he clearly understands what the stakes are.
     
    That's why he's the new Hitler/Stalin/PolPot/Idi Amin combo-demon. Putin and Xi face similar enemies at home. The big money in both countries leans to the West, and neither of them gives a damn about their homeland as long as their privileges and status are maintained. The Chinese big money is probably more deeply embedded in the West than Russia's

    Putin & Xi are reportedly good friends. At some point, maybe in the medium term, they will make a big move, but more likely (imho) they've opted for a series of sabotages and blocking manoeuvres that prevent the Pentagon's strategy from gaining traction. When the US starts running out of gas, their actions may become more direct. Putin's stealth moves into Crimea and Syria are probably as "kinetic" as they're intending to get. Watch the SCO gain a lot of traction as governments become aware of the US' vision for the new world order. Already the ASEAN countries are exploring ways to have Russia play a larger role in the security structure of SE Asia. and even Japan seem to be putting out feelers.
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  45. @schrub
    People who seem to think that Trump's generals will somehow go along and support his original vision are sadly mistaken.

    Since 2003, Israel has had an increasingly strong hand in the vetting who gets promoted to upper positions in the American armed forces. All of the generals Trump has at his side went through a vetting procedure which definitely involved a very close look at their opinions about Israel.

    Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski has written extensively about the purges of the patriots in the Defense Department that happened in Washington during the lead up and after the commencement of the Iraq war in 2003.

    Officers who openly oppose the dictates of the Israel Lobby will see their prospects for advancement simply vanish like a whiff of smoke.. Those who support Israel's machinations are rewarded with promotions, the more fervent the support the more rapid the promotion especially if this knowledge is made known to their congressman or senator..

    Generals who support Israel already know that this support will be heavily rewarded after their retirements by being given lucrative six figure positions on company boards of directors or positions in equally lucrative think tanks like the American Enterprise Institution or the Hoover Institute. They will receive hefty speaking fees. as well. They learned early that their retirements could be truly glorious if they only "went" along with The Lobby. They will be able to then live the good life in expensive places like Washington, New York or San Francisco, often invited to glitzy parties with unlimited amount of free prawns "the size of your hand".

    On the other hand, upper officers who somehow get then get "bad" reputations for their negative views about Israel ( like Karen U. Kwiatkowski for instance) will end up, once retired, having to depend on just their often scanty pensions This requires getting an often demeaning second jobs to get by in some place where "their dollar goes further". No bright lights in big cities for them. No speaking fees, no college jobs. Once their fate becomes known, their still active duty contemporaries suddenly decide to "go along".

    If anybody thinks what I have written is an exaggeration, research what the late Admiral Thomas Moorer had to say years ago about the total infiltration of the Defense Department by Israeli agents.

    Face it, we live in a country under occupation by a hostile power that we willingly pay large amounts monetary tribute to. Our government does whatever benefits Israel regardless of how negatively this effects the USA. We are increasing troop strength in Afghanistan because, somehow, this benefits Israel. If our presence in Afghanistan (or the Mideast in general) didn't benefit Israel, our troops would simply not be there.

    We are all Palestinians.

    Face it, we live in a country under occupation by a hostile power that we willingly pay large amounts monetary tribute to. Our government does whatever benefits Israel regardless of how negatively this effects the USA. We are increasing troop strength in Afghanistan because, somehow, this benefits Israel. If our presence in Afghanistan (or the Mideast in general) didn’t benefit Israel, our troops would simply not be there.

    We are all Palestinians.

    I couldn’t have said it better. And there are the ones who think that it is Trump who is plotting war!! These ones are either just not aware of how things really are, or else they are deliberately trying to take the spotlight off the Jews and Israel as the real troublemakers they have always been.

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  46. @Sean

    As for Washington and the proverbially bombastic, failed futurists across the Beltway, do they even know what is the end game of “investing” in two never-ending wars with no visible benefits?
     
    You start by assuming that the absence of war is the ultimate good, but none can say what a world without war would be like, or how long it would last.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/20/wars-john-gray-conflict-peace
    Has the world seen moral progress? The answer should not depend on whether one has a sunny or a morose temperament. Everyone agrees that life is better than death, health better than sickness, prosperity better than privation, freedom better than tyranny, peace better than war. All of these can be measured, and the results plotted over time. If they go up, that’s progress.

    For John Gray, this is a big problem. As a part of his campaign against reason, science and Enlightenment humanism, he insists that the strivings of humanity over the centuries have left us no better off. This dyspepsia was hard enough to sustain when Gray first expressed it in the teeth of obvious counterexamples such as the abolition of human sacrifice, chattel slavery and public torture-executions. But as scholars have increasingly measured human flourishing, they have found that Gray is not just wrong but howlingly, flat-earth, couldn’t-be-more-wrong wrong. The numbers show that after millennia of near-universal poverty and despotism, a steadily growing proportion of humankind is surviving infancy and childbirth, going to school, voting in democracies, living free of disease, enjoying the necessities of modern life and surviving to old age.

    And more people are living in peace. In the 1980s several military scholars noticed to their astonishment that the most destructive form of armed conflict – wars among great powers and developed states – had effectively ceased to exist. At the time this “long peace” could have been dismissed as a random lull, but it has held firm for an additional three decades.
     

    In my opinion Gray, though wrong that violence is not decreasing, is onto something about the future being bleak because of the rise of meliorist assumptions, because perpetual peace will be humanity's tomb.

    While many suggest a danger for our world along the lines of Brian Cox's explanation for the Fermi Paradox (ie intelligent life forms cross grainedly bring on self-annihilation through unlimited war) I take a different view.

    Given that Pinker appears substantially correct that serious war (ie wars among great powers and developed states) have effectively ceased to exist, the trend is for peace and cooperation. Martin Nowak in his book The Supercoperators shows cooperation, not fighting, to be the defining human trait (and indeed the most cooperative groups won their wars in history, whereby nation states such the US are the result of not just individuals but familial tribal regional , and virtually continental groupings coming together for mutual advantage and defence. The future is going to be global integration pursuit of economic objectives, and I think this exponential moral progress bill begat technological advances beyond imagining.. An escape from the war trap is almost complete and the Singularity becones. The most likely culprit in the paradox is a technological black hole event horizon created by unlimited peace and progress.

    Cross-grained though it may be to say that the good war hallows every cause, I think it not so bad in comparison with the alternative.
     
     

    The future is going to be global integration pursuit of economic objectives,

    I’ll let Vladimir Putin comment on that:

    “These days, not without reason, the mere mentioning of globalization is suspect. When we hear about globalization, we must be aware that our national values are at risk, and we must jump to defend them at all costs. Look at the sorry state of Europe now, and you’ll understand what I mean. Because globalization has always been just an excuse for cynical exploitation and control, we must be vigilant at all times, to confront the common enemy as he deserves. We can always cooperate and be friends, but at the same time remain vigilant, to protect our nations and our national identity from predators”

    These words, by the way, echo the words of Donald Trump in Poland, a few days ago. So, these two are not at odds, as the ‘elites’ would have you believe.

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  47. denk says:
    @Grandpa Charlie
    As Pepe full well knows. there is no parity, much less equating, of the Korean conflict with the NATO-Afghanistan war. Similarly, there is no parity much less equating of the development of nuclear weapons by the Kim Jung-un Nazi-like dictatorship of North Korea with wholly defensive military exercises involving the US and the ROK.

    Such exercises have been ongoing for decades ... and have never in any way threatened an invasion of the North by the Republic of Korea - the only legitimate and democratically elected government on the Korean Peninsula!

    We know that the PRC has infiltrated not only the government of Australia but also the government of the USA. Why does Pepe insist upon a flimsy fictional narrative of US-ROK invasion of the North while at the same time attempting to present a nuclear attack on Guam as somehow praise-worthy? Enough is enough. Could there be something in it for Pepe ... say, in the form of renminbi?

    BTW: everyone in America knows that what is needed is a thorough and real investigation of the 9-11 events. When that happens, the pretexts for Afghanistan -- and for all the others except Korea -- will evaporate like the morning dew of a brand-new day. But as Pepe and everyone else knows , is much good reason for USA being in Korea - all of them honorable. National honor has meaning - whether politicians understand that or no History has meaning - whether Pepe pretends ignorance of the real history of the origins of the Korean War, or not.

    Recently you mentioned about Chinese ‘expansionism’ vs India.
    Thats very weird, afaik, there were only Indian expansionisms against China ever since 1962.

    Are you talking about the border skirmish at Donglang ?
    BUt in this case it was the Indians who crossed border into Chinese territory,
    yet another indian expansionism. !

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/07/06/sikkim-stand-off-china-india-collide-himalayas/

    You call yourself a 911 truther, but the way you propagate fake news on China,
    siding with fascist India, is downright neo-conned !

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  48. Erebus says:
    @white noise

    He goes on to maintain that Assad was the first leader to understand this strategy, and his development of a counter strategy is the principle reason for his continued, indeed enhanced reign. If they didn’t then, I have a feeling that Putin & Xi now also understand, and that some of their counter-strategies are becoming visible.
     
    And it is you who got it right... Putin is actively sabotaging the 'elites' every move. So, yes, he clearly understands what the stakes are. And it is in the best interests of China to draw an alliance with Russia. Simply because of geography.

    It is no coincidence that China and Russia keep having joint military exercises. A show off, perhaps, but jointly. Besides, right now these two are drafting the terms of a long term financial partnership... bypassing the American dollar.

    Putin is actively sabotaging the ‘elites’ every move. So, yes, he clearly understands what the stakes are.

    That’s why he’s the new Hitler/Stalin/PolPot/Idi Amin combo-demon. Putin and Xi face similar enemies at home. The big money in both countries leans to the West, and neither of them gives a damn about their homeland as long as their privileges and status are maintained. The Chinese big money is probably more deeply embedded in the West than Russia’s

    Putin & Xi are reportedly good friends. At some point, maybe in the medium term, they will make a big move, but more likely (imho) they’ve opted for a series of sabotages and blocking manoeuvres that prevent the Pentagon’s strategy from gaining traction. When the US starts running out of gas, their actions may become more direct. Putin’s stealth moves into Crimea and Syria are probably as “kinetic” as they’re intending to get. Watch the SCO gain a lot of traction as governments become aware of the US’ vision for the new world order. Already the ASEAN countries are exploring ways to have Russia play a larger role in the security structure of SE Asia. and even Japan seem to be putting out feelers.

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  49. In the case of Korea, blame the worthless craven dogs and cowards in South Korea and the US(aka Korean-American community). With democracy and freedom, they can address the issue of how Korea got divided in the first place. They can own their own narrative and press the US to acknowledge its criminality in dividing the nation and giving half to Stalin, like what Hitler did with Poland. And on those grounds, they can gradually work for peace and stability.

    But these cuck-Koreans have no such will. Naturally a race of servile dogs and slaves addicted to status, they just suck up to the Great Power.

    So, you have the Korean ‘left’ that imitates every garbage that comes out of Harvard and Hollywood. And you have the Korean ‘right’ that sucks up to everything that comes out of Pentagon.

    As for North Korea, the servile dogs that bark to the tune of fat hideous Kim.

    IQ was wasted on the wrong people.

    As for Afghanistan, great powers failed over and over and over. It never was an organic nation but a patchwork of various ethnic tribes. If the imperialists really wanted to create a more stable order, it should have been carved along clearer ethnic lines like Yugoslavia. But over and over, imperialists have only tried to use the territory as base of operations and kept this artificial bogus nation together. Because Afghanistan nationhood is so bogus, even when the imperialists are gone, there is never-ending tensions and more wars that invites another imperialist invasion. The only thing that has kept the place together is either communist rule or Islamic tyranny.

    Imperialists have a strange habit of dividing an organic nation in half — Korea and Vietnam — and forcing different peoples into a fake bogus nation.

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