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“From the very beginning—that is, from the publication of the first book specifically for children — the intent was to mold and shape the mind to accepted standards of behavior.”
Saul Braun, The New York Times, June 7, 1970.

This article is the product of research originally conducted for a recent article titled “Jews, Obscenity, and the Legal System.” Given the significant amount of material discovered and the uniqueness of the subject matter, I decided there was enough material for an article devoted to children’s literature. During research for the obscenity essay, I consulted the American Library Association’s list of “Top 100 Banned/Challenged Books: 2000–2009” with a view to assessing the nature and extent of the Jewish presence. The first fact to become apparent was a marked Jewish over-representation in the production of books deemed controversial or perverse by parents, schools, and other institutions. Jews are notoriously shy of the census, but are probably somewhere between the 2.2% of the U.S. population suggested by the Pew Research Center and a maximum of around 5%. Even accepting a grain of truth in the apologetic argument that Jews are disproportionately attracted to literary professions (to say nothing about motive), one might very generously expect a Jewish representation of around 10 books on the ALA’s list.

However, my biographical checks on all authors on the list, some of which were indeterminate, revealed that 22 books on the ALA’s list were penned by 17 Jewish writers.[1]Avi (aka Edward Irving Wortis), H.G. “Buzz” Bissinger, Judy Blume, Esther Drill, Lois Duncan (Steinmetz), E.R. Frank, Bette Green, Robie Harris, Carolyn Mackler, Johanna Reiss, Louise Rennison, J.D. Salinger, Louis Sachar, Alvin Schwartz, Maurice Sendak, Charles Silverstein, R.L. Stine. Jews are thus significantly over-represented in producing contemporary literature deemed oppositional by the surrounding culture, and are even more radically over-represented when older, White-authored, entries such as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (now often opposed as ‘racist’) are taken out of consideration. Since the majority of entries on the list were children’s books, and taking into account my previous discoveries concerning Jewish manipulation of demand for ‘diverse books’ in the school system, it occurred to me that children’s literature is an important, but sometimes neglected, front in the cultural conflict we see played out daily. This article is therefore intended as a brief introduction to some of the most pertinent personalities and themes in the area of Jewish Leftist activism in children’s fiction.

A great deal of Jewish radical activism in the cultural sphere comes under the umbrella of the general relationship between Jews and the Left. This relationship can historically be understood as involving Jewish innovation of, or support for, social, cultural, and political causes likely to weaken the cultural structures of the host society and make it more amenable to Jewish interests. In the chapter titled “Jews and the Left” in The Culture of Critique (p. 50 )Kevin MacDonald cites Stanley Rothman and S. Robert Lichter, who remarked in their Roots of Radicalism: Jews, Christians, and the New Left (1982): “Whatever their situation…in almost every country about which we have information, a segment of the Jewish community played a very vital role in movements designed to undermine the existing order.” MacDonald argues that superficial divergences between Jewish religion and radical agendas are negated by the fact many ethnically Jewish radicals have persisted in adhering to a strong Jewish identity, and have often explicitly pursued Jewish interests. MacDonald writes (p. 51): “The hypothesis that Jewish radicalism is compatible with Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy implies that radical Jews continue to identify as Jews.”

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I argue that the material presented in this essay should be seen firmly within the same theoretical framework proposed by MacDonald. For example, several of the Jewish writers under consideration here are homosexuals, radical socialists, and feminists. A common apologetic from “Jews on the Right,” is that such figures are anathema to Judaism, or that as adherents of the Reform movement etc., they are unrepresentative of “true Jews.” The contention here is that the situation is quite the opposite, and I stress that many of these writers are demonstrably committed to Jewish tradition and the Jewish group.

Excellent case studies in this regard can be found in Jewish lesbian feminist writers — figures who are, on the surface at least, incompatible with a group evolutionary strategy. After all, how could women who have personally forfeited reproduction be said to engage in a Darwinian struggle? However, history tells us that it has been quite possible for Jewish celibates and homosexuals to contribute in some form to group advancement. A useful example is my own recent review of the work of R.A. Maryks, “Jewish activism in the Jesuit Order,” a scenario in which Jewish males traded reproductive possibilities for political, social, and cultural influence intended to benefit the converso community of Early Modern Spain. Similarly, Jewish scholar Sylvia Fishman points out in Follow My Footprints: Changing Images of Women in American Fiction (1992) that “a significant amount of Jewish lesbian writing is deeply committed to Jewish peoplehood and Jewish survival.”[2]S.B. Fishman, Follow My Footprints: Changing Images of Women in American Fiction (Hanover: Brandeis University Press, 1992), p.50. A particularly interesting example of a radical Jewish feminist is Betty Friedan (born Bettye Naomi Goldstein), the activist behind “Second Wave Feminism” who “confessed to having always had ‘very strong feelings’ about her Jewish identity,” and saw feminism partly as a means of getting closer to Judaism and her identity as a Jew.[3]F. Klagsbrun, “Marching in Front,” Hadassah Magazine (Nov. 1993), p.24.

That radical Jewish activists should turn their attention to children’s culture and education is also unsurprising. Jewish intellectuals have, in recent decades, pushed the idea that nativist and/or anti-Jewish attitudes are on a par with a highly infectious disease — with inoculation, in the form of aggressive “educational” treatment, at an early age seen as the surest remedy for the perceived ills of an “intolerant society.” Although the idea that anti-Jewish attitudes are a form of disease with roots in childhood goes back to Freud, it remains current in mainstream Jewish academic and political circles. Take, for example, the closing remarks from Abraham Foxman’s Jews and Money: The Story of a Stereotype, where parents and teachers are urged to “try to help the next generation grow up freer from the infection of intolerance”[4]A. Foxman, Jews and Money: The Story of a Stereotype (New York: Palgrave, 2010), p.230. — the goal being, as Mr. Foxman once articulated, to “make America as user-friendly to Jews as possible.” Theodore Isaac Rubin’s Anti-Semitism: A Disease of the Mind, describes anti-Jewish feeling as a “contagious, malignant disease,” and concludes by stating, “extremely active application of insight and education is necessary to check the disease. Checkmate and eradication is [sic] extremely difficult and probably only possible if applied to the very young before roots of the disease take hold.”[5]T.I. Rubin, Anti-Semitism: A Disease of the Mind (Fort Lee: Barricade Books, 2009), p.156. To Rubin and the ADL, the solution to the problem of solidarity and tradition in the surrounding population is one requiring “prophylaxis” and “approaches to children.” Indeed, the ADL-sponsored tome Anti-Semitism in America (1979), concludes that “It is apparent that the schools are the most appropriate and potentially effective agent to carry out the instructional strategy just outlined.”[6]H. Quinley & C. Glock, Anti-Semitism in America (New York: The Free Press, 1979), p.202.

Children’s literature, therefore, whether for entertainment or education, would be an obvious conduit through which Jews could advance ideas or encourage behaviors likely to benefit Jewish interests. One could also reasonably predict, based on historical precedents in the form of Jewish intellectual movements (particularly multiculturalism, sexology, Boasian anthropology, psychoanalysis, and the theories of the Frankfurt School), that such ideas would revolve around notions of ethnic and sexual pluralism, and the critique and deconstruction of traditional family structure in Whites. Indeed, one might even expect contributing authors to have overlapping affiliations to psychoanalysis and radical socialism. Such predictions are largely borne out in the findings presented below.

One of the more interesting figures in this sphere of cultural activity is Lesléa Newman, a lesbian and Jewish feminist who has the dubious distinction of penning one of the most controversial children’s books of recent decades while also producing a series of books for Jewish children promoting traditional Jewish culture and values. In 1989, after being rejected by almost every mainstream publisher, and together with co-ethnic backer Tzivia Gover, Newman self-published Heather Has Two Mommies, described as “the first lesbian-themed children’s book ever published.” Newman recalls, “People were scared to publish ‘Heather’ even though there was a need for it. No one would touch it. But we were fierce Jewish women.” Newman’s work was recorded as the 11th most challenged book of the 1990s by the American Library Association. However, in common with reactions to Jewish activism in other cultural, social, and political spheres, the response to Newman’s work was boisterous but lacking in focus; the perception being that this was exclusively part of a homosexual agenda and there being little or no understanding of the Jewish element involved. The Jewish Telegraphic Agencyreports that “the head of a school district in Queens declared “war” on the book and sent a letter to parents warning that their children were going to be taught about sodomy. …The district president sent out over 30,000 letters to district parents decrying the book as ‘dangerous homosexual propaganda.’” At one point Newman was described as “America’s most dangerous writer.”

What many of the book’s opponents missed, however, was that its author was a keen promoter of traditionalism and community — Jewish traditionalism and community. Unlike Heather Has Two Mommies and later books such as The Boy Who Cried Fabulous (2004), A Fire Engine for Ruthie (2004), Momma, Mama, and Me (2009), Daddy, Papa, and Me (2009), Donovan’s Big Day (2011), and Sparkle Boy (2017), which brought homosexuality, gender dysphoria, and AIDS to a mass child readership, Newman published a number of niche children’s books for her own community, offering conventional and traditional treatments of Jewish festivals devoid of any of these themes. Matzo Ball Moon (1998), Runaway Dreidel (2002), The Eight Nights of Chanukah (2008), A Sweet Passover (2012), My Name is Aviva (2015), and Hanukkah Delight (2016) all feature traditional Jewish families without a hint of sexual or cultural pluralism. They have been highly praised as traditional, family-friendly works by the Jewish Book Council.

That Newman has consciously or unconsciously produced a body of work so thematically segregated is unsurprising within the framework of Jewish deception and self-deception. The crucial factor here is that Jewish identity is integral to Newman’s sense of self and belonging, and is something that she feels very protective of. Indeed, in our attempt to assess the true psychological driving force behind the production and dissemination of the former body of work, it is worth recalling Newman’s description of herself and Gover not as feminists or lesbians, but as “fierce Jewish women” (emphasis added). One would be fully justified in asking why, given the apparently non-ethnic and non-religious context of the origins of Heather, Newman would lay most emphasis on her ethnicity. My own interpretation is that, as a homosexual, Newman is a kind of outlier within the Jewish ethnic group who, consciously or otherwise, has sought to advance the interests of her co-ethnics by ‘weaponizing’ her sexuality and directing her activism exclusively against ‘society’ rather than within her community. Of course, one finds precisely the same incongruences among heterosexual feminists who, in their fevered railings against the patriarchy remain curiously yet unanimously silent on the patriarchal aspects of Judaism and Jewish culture.

With two entries on the ALAs list, Robie Harris is another excellent example of Jewish activism in children’s fiction, having been born into an orthodox Jewish family. Harris’s most challenged text is It’s Perfectly Normal (1994), a book described by Kirkus Review as demonstrating Harris’s desire to “present more ethnic and sexual diversity than New York City’s Rainbow Curriculum ever bargained for.” Harris accomplishes this by introducing pre-teen children to multiple sex acts, transgenderism, homosexuality, and AIDS. In 1996, It’s Perfectly Normal was challenged in Washington because the “book is an act of encouragement for children to begin desiring sexual gratification … and is a clear example of child pornography.” In 1999 Harris published It’s So Amazing, which was equally challenged by parents and schools on the grounds that it was introducing ten year olds to “sexual intercourse, masturbation, abortion, and homosexuality.” In 2012 Harris provoked further controversy with the publication of Who’s in My Family, which “tells the story of changing family structures, from biracial to gay households.” Of considerably greater interest is who is in Harris’s own family, an extended network of uniformly Jewish households. Indeed, Harris’s cousin, Elizabeth Levy, is also a children’s author. Levy is best known for her Something Queer series, published between 1973 and 1997, which told the story of the adventures of two young girls with a barely-concealed (for those who missed the title’s double entendre) lesbian subtext. In 1981 Levy abandoned subtlety altogether with the publication of Come Out Smiling, a sordid tale aimed at teens and exploring lesbian relationships at a girl’s summer camp. The villain of the piece is a White, “homophobic” father against whom the girls must “bravely” struggle.

All of this is not to say that the pushing of sexual and ethnic diversity or undermining traditional representations of masculinity in children’s fiction has been the sole preserve of Jewish women. Harvey Fierstein’s The Sissy Duckling (2002) is aimed at children ages 5–8 and “tells the story of Elmer, a duckling who is mocked for being a “sissy” but who ultimately proves his bravery.” Another incredibly controversial children’s work of recent decades is Two Weeks with the Queen, published by Morris Gleitzman in 1990. In this work, aimed at children ages 8–12, Gleitzman discusses themes including “AIDS, homosexuality, and gay-bashing.” A particularly interesting case study is Maurice Sendak, the homosexual Jewish children’s writer and illustrator behind Where the Wild Things Are (1963). Sendak made the ALAs list for In the Night Kitchen (1970), which depicts a young boy’s dream journey through a surreal baker’s kitchen where he assists in the creation of a cake to be ready by the morning. Particularly controversial was the fact the boy is illustrated by Sendak as fully naked throughout, and is depicted in a range of scenarios resembling, in the words of journalist Saul Braun, a “masturbatory fantasy.” The son of Polish Jews, Sendak has confessed in interviews to Jewish subtexts in his works, including In the Night Kitchen, and to ways in which his Jewish roots have impacted his life, views, and work. For example, Sendak claims that from a young age he viewed “the human race as fairly aggressive and confrontational,” and remarked that the bakers in In the Night Kitchen — “with their Hitler-esque moustaches — were a reference to the Holocaust.” Similarly, it has been remarked that Sendak’s illustrations of children are “somewhat stout and gnomish. … His children are dark, with stumpy figures — not your standard, Anglo-Saxon Janet and John types.” Sendak himself has stated they are Jewish figures, being “a curious admixture of Brooklyn remembered and shtetl life in Poland fantasized.”

A heterosexual male Jewish children’s author who has thus far avoided challenges to his work is Michael Rosen, born in England to Jewish parents with roots in Poland, Russia, and Romania. Both parents were members of the Young Communist League and had opposed the Sir Oswald Mosley’s British Union of Fascists during the “Battle of Cable Street.” His mother was a secretary at the Daily Worker, the official newspaper of the Community Party of Great Britain. Rosen himself is strongly affiliated with the radical Left, writing columns for the Socialist Worker newspaper and speaking at conferences of the Socialist Workers Party. Having carved out a reasonably successful career as a children’s poet and author, even a cursory glance at his body of work suggests that his politics has intermingled with his ‘art.’ One of the best, and perhaps subtlest, examples is This Is Our House (1996), aimed at pre-schoolers. In essence, this is an anti-nativist tale designed to dissuade children from having “prejudices” or any sense of ownership or property, but it masquerades as a simple tale about sharing. The book’s description states: “George says the cardboard house is his and no one else can play in it. It isn’t for girls, small people, twins, people with glasses, or people who like tunnels. But Lindy, Marly, Freddie, Charlene, Marlene, Luther, Sophie and Rasheda have other ideas! One by one each child is refused access until tables are turned and George finds how it feels to be on the receiving end.” In the course of the book George (depicted as White) plays happily with a box that he has constructed as his “house.” But the other children, half of whom are non-White, insist that his “home” is not just his but “belongs to everybody.”

More recently, for children ages 10–12, Rosen has authored a non-fiction book titled Who are Refugees and Migrants? What Makes People Leave their Homes? And Other Big Questions (2016). The book is said to compare “the effects on society of diversity and interculturalism with historical attempts to create a racially ‘pure’ culture. It takes an international perspective …. There is also a role-play activity asking readers to imagine themselves in the situation of having to decide whether to leave their homes and seek refuge in a new country.”

Essentially then, it is a quite typical example of multicultural propaganda. Jewish involvement in producing pro-multicultural non-fiction texts for children is of course nothing new. The earliest example I have been able to find (at least in the English-speaking world) is Dorothy W. Baruch’s Glass House of Prejudice (1946). The text was described by Kirkus Review in the year of its publication as the “first approach of its kind to problems of minorities, of racial discrimination, of intolerance, based on case histories, many of them closely aligned with adolescent problems. Dr. Baruch’s approach touches both intellect and emotions; she cuts to the heart of the matter …. She has shown how the problems [surrounding immigration] are rooted in conditions we [the native population] must face, insecurities, false attitudes, ignorance.” Such ideas were of course fully in keeping with the theories advanced by the Frankfurt School.

Before concluding, some mention must be made of the most prolific author on the ALAs list of most challenged books, 2000–2009: Judy Blume (born Judith Sussman). Blume’s three entries exceed any other writer, while during the 1990–1999 period she had five entries. For the period 1990–2004 Blume came second only to fellow Jew Alvin Schwartz, whose violent and explicit horror stories were deemed inappropriate for the age group he claimed to write them for. Blume has come into conflict with parents, schools, and other institutions because her works contain graphic sexual content and offensive language, as well as themes that have been deemed unsuitable for any child age group. Those elements are present in every one of Blume’s challenged books, but to cite just two examples, Deenie (1973) Forever (1975), Blume introduced into teenage fiction such themes as compulsive masturbation, teenage pregnancy, attempted suicide, homosexuality, and talk of sexually transmitted diseases. But how does Blume see herself? A feminist role model? A cultural egalitarian? In her own words: “Culturally and spiritually I’m a Jewish girl from New Jersey.”

Discussion

There are of course many more writers who could be profiled, and many more works which could be explored, but the intention of this essay has been to offer a modest introduction to some of the more pertinent themes in this area of Jewish cultural activity. The contention here is not that Jews are solely behind the decline in social, cultural, and sexual norms that historically have been very beneficial for White societies. After all, once we exclude non-White authors from the ALAs list we still find around 60% of socially oppositional works being produced by White writers. There’s obviously a market for such material, and, as usual, no shortage of Whites willing to take advantage of it. However, the contention here is that there is significant evidence that individuals identifying as Jews, and seeing themselves fully as members of the Jewish ethnic group, have been at the cutting edge of cultural erosion, often innovating or acting as pioneers in the deconstruction of social norms. Essentially, what we see is that writers like Baruch, Harris, Levy, and Newman broke ground into which fellow Jewish activists — and outlier Whites — could follow. It is difficult to say with certainty how different things would have turned out without such aggressive action from these self-described “fierce Jewish women” (and men), but one could reasonably surmise that the policing of morals and norms within our group would have been significantly more robust without the undermining cultural influence of fads like psychoanalysis or the selective “backing of free speech” by Jewish groups when it suited their interests to do so.

Finally, the bigger picture here is the indoctrination of our children. On this note I refer to the epigraph that opened this essay. Ultimately we are dealing with materials designed to mold and shape the minds of our children to the new “accepted standards of behavior.” We are now not far from a time when healthy tales of White children engaging in adventure will be deemed reactionary because of their potential to instill pride, or dangerous because they aren’t tolerant enough of the proliferating motley of sexual and racial minorities that now intrude into all aspects of culture. Our challenge in the coming years will be to get into this culture war in a more significant way. That will require developing a new literature, and stamping out the poisonous one that lies before us.

References

[1] Avi (aka Edward Irving Wortis), H.G. “Buzz” Bissinger, Judy Blume, Esther Drill, Lois Duncan (Steinmetz), E.R. Frank, Bette Green, Robie Harris, Carolyn Mackler, Johanna Reiss, Louise Rennison, J.D. Salinger, Louis Sachar, Alvin Schwartz, Maurice Sendak, Charles Silverstein, R.L. Stine.

[2] S.B. Fishman, Follow My Footprints: Changing Images of Women in American Fiction (Hanover: Brandeis University Press, 1992), p.50.

[3] F. Klagsbrun, “Marching in Front,” Hadassah Magazine (Nov. 1993), p.24.

[4] A. Foxman, Jews and Money: The Story of a Stereotype (New York: Palgrave, 2010), p.230.

[5] T.I. Rubin, Anti-Semitism: A Disease of the Mind (Fort Lee: Barricade Books, 2009), p.156.

[6] H. Quinley & C. Glock, Anti-Semitism in America (New York: The Free Press, 1979), p.202.

(Republished from The Occidental Observer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. If the folks at OO are so concerned about children’s litterature why don’t they write and publish their own? They seem to assume there are parents who would prefer other types of books.

    Or following the old paleo can’t-do mentality, they may just prefer complaining about what others do.

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    • Replies: @Backwoods bob
    I've written hundreds of them. Now our kids write a story every day in their second language, at six and eight years old. You can bang out a story in minutes, and it has your own kids' names in it along with mommy and daddy, their dog, family and friends, heros, arch criminals like the Clintons - whatever you want. You can paste illustrations, maps, your own pictures, etc.

    I know parents who spend ghastly $ on books and amazing amounts of time pawing through the asinine PC selections when you can just write your own virtually for free. The retards at the government school down the road are 11 years behind our eight year old in reading ability and seven years behind our six year old. But they know a penis goes in your rear end.

    Stupidity plus perversion - what's not to love about PC literature and education?
    , @Alden
    Anyone can write a book. Getting it published is quite another thing

    But getting a book about normal
    chikdren doing things on the school reading lists?

    Never !!!!!
    , @Seamus Padraig
    There are plenty of good, traditionalist books for children on the market already, and they sell just fine. The problem is that the multi-culti homophilic degeneracy described in the article is what is being pushed on the kids by the educational system. The public education system is being used as a brain-washing mechanism to instill political correctness into young minds that are not well-developed enough to think critically.
    , @Wally
    They do write them, but they are censored. Pay attention.

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  2. Bubba says:

    This doesn’t surprise me. With the exception of 3 years, the American Federation of Teachers Union has been controlled by the Bolshevik (((non-Goyim))) far longer than the (((Federal Reserve))), but less than (((Hollywood))).

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "With the exception of 3 years, the American Federation of Teachers Union has been controlled by the Bolshevik..."

    A product of Alt-Right indoctrination.
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  3. Excellent article. Meticulous. Penetrating. Well researched. Andrew Joyce never disappoints.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "A great deal of Jewish radical activism in the cultural sphere comes under the umbrella of the general relationship between Jews and the Left."

    The author in typical fashion makes an overblown generalization. He wants to make it appear that Americans in particular seem to fall victim to snake oil salesmen. But, Americans in general do not take seriously believe the primary purpose of Jews is to infiltrate their sense of decency through children's education and culture.
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  4. Roseanne’ actress Sara Gilbert says her cross-dressing son in the show is NOT transgender and explains they created the character for reboot because he ‘represents the world’ today

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5243169/Roseanne-grandson-dresses-like-girl-not-transgender.html

    A reboot of the iconic show ‘Rosanne’ will return to television, and while it features the old cast, one of the new characters that will be introduced is Rosanne’s grandson, who dresses like a girl.

    The character is a nine-year-old named Mark, played by Ames McNamara. The show’s executive producer Sara Gilbert, who is returning on screen as Darlene, explains he is not
    transgender, transitioning or gay.

    Gilbert, speaking to Entertainment Weekly explains: ‘He’s not a transgender character. He’s a little boy. He’s based on a few kids in my life that are boys who dress in more traditionally feminine clothing.

    ‘He’s too young to be gay and he doesn’t identify as transgender, but he just likes wearing that kind of clothing and that’s where he is at this point in his life.’

    The actress Sara Gilbert is a jewish lesbian, LGBT activist, and well connected TV producer and Hollywood insider.

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    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    The actress Sara Gilbert is a jewish lesbian, LGBT activist, and well connected TV producer and Hollywood insider.
     
    Sara Gilbert's past partner for decade was Alison Adler, was a business/creative/showrunner partner of the biggest pusher/producer of degenerate television in the last decade the fanatic gay activist Ryan Murphy. Together they developed the notorious 2012 bomb though heavily hyped 'The New Normal' about a gay couple paying an unwed mother to allow them to buy/adopt her second surrogate child based on Murphy's real life.

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    Alison Adler went on to create the extreme feminist comic book series 'Supergirl'.

    Ryan Murphy is outspoken about wanting to normalize gay sex on TV and pushing the most degenerate content imaginable.

    He is the creator behind Nip/Tuck, American Horror Story, Glee, The New Normal and a dozen more shows and films....
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    Murphy has been married to photographer David Miller since July 2012.[32] On December 24, 2012, Murphy and Miller welcomed their first child, a son named Logan Phineas, via a surrogate. In October 2014, they welcomed their second son, Ford.[33]

     

    Here are a couple of Ryan Murphy's latest shows.

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    Feud: Bette and Joan, from prolific producer Ryan Murphy, explores the famed behind-the-scenesclash between Hollywood stars Joan Crawford (Jessica Lange) and Bette Davis (Susan Sarandon). During Sunday's series debut, Stanley Tucci's studio chief Jack Warner — in a heated discussion with Alfred Molina's Robert Aldrich — angrily called Davis a "cunt." It came in a scene during which Aldrich was attempting to convince Warner and his studio to distribute What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? starring Davis, the woman who famously sued Warner Bros. to get out of her deal.
     
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    Murphy and his team began casting for the show in March 2017. Following a six-month nationwide casting search,[7] the production announced that they had assembled the largest transgender cast ever for a scripted series. Those transgender actors joining the main cast include MJ Rodriguez, Indya Moore, Dominique Jackson, Hailie Sahar, and Angelica Ross. Cisgender actors concurrently announced were Ryan Jamaal Swain, Billy Porter and Dyllon Burnside.[5] The series is expected to include over 50 transgender characters total.[4] A day later, FX announced Evan Peters, Kate Mara, James Van Der Beek and Tatiana Maslany were also joining the series and were set to portray Stan, Patty, Matt, and a dance teacher, respectively.[8][9]
     
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  5. Alden says:

    And one of the mommies is going to get her heart broken when the birth, natural, DNA whatever Mommy divorces the non Mommy and non mommy discovers she has no rights whatsoever because she neglected to legally adopt Heather .

    Even if the mommies are legally married, non mommy is only a step parent and has no rights unless she adopts heather.

    At least these arrangements give vast employment to attorneys, family court personnel, counselors, child services etc.

    Wait till some desperate unemployed mommies try to go after the sperm banks and sperm donors for child support.

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  6. @anony-mouse
    If the folks at OO are so concerned about children's litterature why don't they write and publish their own? They seem to assume there are parents who would prefer other types of books.

    Or following the old paleo can't-do mentality, they may just prefer complaining about what others do.

    I’ve written hundreds of them. Now our kids write a story every day in their second language, at six and eight years old. You can bang out a story in minutes, and it has your own kids’ names in it along with mommy and daddy, their dog, family and friends, heros, arch criminals like the Clintons – whatever you want. You can paste illustrations, maps, your own pictures, etc.

    I know parents who spend ghastly $ on books and amazing amounts of time pawing through the asinine PC selections when you can just write your own virtually for free. The retards at the government school down the road are 11 years behind our eight year old in reading ability and seven years behind our six year old. But they know a penis goes in your rear end.

    Stupidity plus perversion – what’s not to love about PC literature and education?

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    Bravo to you, sir!

    Superb suggestions.

    Most of us stupid goyim won't do it though; mom and dad feel compelled to submit to wage, tax, and debt slavery in order to obtain the phony "prestige" they think they'll get by collecting all the "Kool" and shiny gadgets and useless garbage they can.

    Even primitive cargo cultists didn't stoop to those lows.
    , @Anonymous
    “Government school”? That generally means the public gets to have a school of their own choosing. The attacks on public schools are from whom exacty?

    ‘My kids are way ahead’ Way ahead how? Way ahead what?

    , @Bubba
    Great comment! Thank you sir!
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  7. In any western society with jews they were or are heavily over represented in intellectual activities, politicians, judges, doctors, professors, whatever.
    When Hungary forbade jews to work for newspapers, among other things, they found out that no newspaper could appear any more.
    ‘Christianity and the Holocaust of the Hungarian Jewry’, Moshe Y Herclz, 1993 New York University press

    Even Hitler had his indispensible jews.
    The team that worked on the German hydrogen bomb consisted of two ‘real’ Germans and one jewish German.
    Rainer Karlsch, ‘Hitlers Bom, Hoe Nazi-Duitsland nucleaire wapens testte in een wanhopige poging om de oorlog te winnen, Tielt, 2005 (Hitlers Bombe, München)

    Konstanze von Schulthess, ´Nina Schenk Gräfin von Stauffenberg, Ein Porträt’, München 2009
    A jewish relative was a test pilot even in early 1945, she was at liberty to fly to the Stauffenberg residence.
    She was killed when flying by a USA fighter bomber.

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    Even Hitler had his indispensible jews.
     
    If people only knew how true that was. Contrary to the standard story, Hitler depended on Jews to a large extent. Everyone knows that the public image of politicians is one thing while their actions are often quite another.

    It's probably not too far from the truth to say that if it were not for Jews, Hitler would have neither obtained nor sustained much power whatsoever. To a large extent I suspect his anti-Jewish rhetoric was for public consumption mainly motivated by the need to maintain some sort of loyalty among his supporters, some of whom were rabidly anti-Jewish to be sure, but even they appear to have been largely motivated by anti-Bolshevism primarily.

    I would even go so far as to assert that Hitler was in a continuous struggle with other party members to tone down the anti-Jewish activity since he needed the support of Jewish industrialists, bankers, traders, bureaucrats and newspapers to get anything done at all. A big reason for this is that Jews in Germany (and in surrounding countries) dominated most fields just as they do now in the US.

    Not only did Hitler rely on rich,powerful assimilated Jews, but Germany had been suffering with a virtual flood of poor Jews from Eastern Europe who were competing with native Germans in a time of very high unemployment. Those who damn Hitler out of hand would do well to reflect on the fact that the US has never produced a politician who could even begin to deal effectively with such enormous problems as he faced.

    Hitler certainly had his faults, but he was up against incredible forces. What Trump and Netanyahoo have to deal with pales in comparison.

    The anti-Hitler hysteria that lingers on even to this day is largely Bolshie propaganda and we all know how over the top that dirt was, don't we?

    , @Wally
    Your "bomb"claim is from a highly questionable source.
    No doubt 'soap made from Jews' is next.

    Not mentioned, the fact that thousands of known Jews lived in Berlin throughout all of WWII.
    Yet allegedly there was ‘a plan to kill every Jew the Germans could get their hands on’.

    Yes, there were many Jews that served in Germany's Wehrmacht .

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
    If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

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  8. Alden says:
    @anony-mouse
    If the folks at OO are so concerned about children's litterature why don't they write and publish their own? They seem to assume there are parents who would prefer other types of books.

    Or following the old paleo can't-do mentality, they may just prefer complaining about what others do.

    Anyone can write a book. Getting it published is quite another thing

    But getting a book about normal
    chikdren doing things on the school reading lists?

    Never !!!!!

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    That is true not just of children's lit. Our entire publishing world is controlled by Cultural Marxist ideas. You got a novel in which a black lesbian promotes abortion and is revealed to have had sex with a teenage girl, introducing her also to dope?

    The only way that gets published is if it also features something the Left finds redeeming: like the black lesbian child abusing druggie opposes anti-Semtism and loves the new Moslems.
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  9. One thing I know for sure, this article will never be published on the Breitbart website, Bannon or no Bannon. I have been assured by Breitbart readers that Marx and Einstein were Jesuits! I’m sure they are convinced Freud was also.

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    Indeed, Breitbart must be read with caution. Their rabid pro Zionist, anti Iran views are legion.

    Too bad, they do publish some good take downs of the left.

    www.codoh.com
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  10. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Every indoctrination replaces a previous one. It’s not about truth-versus-indoctrination.

    Why is this premise absent from the article?

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    Examples?

    Or just Jew excuse making.

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  11. Enlightening article, thank you. This issue has bothered gnawed at me for years (since having a child)–it is disgusting, and of course, everywhere you look. One quick example (it seems by a white South African, couldn’t get better bio info) that I’ve read several times because it’s here and my three year old wants me to, most recently two days ago (when I simply stopped in the middle of it, so sick did I feel), is Herd Boy, by Niki Daly. It’s total bullshit, as anyone with a clue can see. There are endless others, but I personally read Where the Wild Things Are and Forever as a child, as did, I think, everybody at that time, the early seventies.
    I’ve generally been so sickened by this, along with literally EVERYTHING ELSE at all ‘cultural’ peddled relentlessly to us all, but most especially our young, that I wouldn’t have had the stomach for any in depth research. Glad the author did. Especially enlightening was his first example, of the lesbian who also publishes traditional Jewish books–priceless.
    Thanks also for comment on the Teachers’ Union’s Jewish control.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Hence, home schooling.
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  12. Jake says:

    In Animal Farm, Napoleon takes the puppies and trains them to be his killers, so that they would slaughter all their own kin to do what they have been educated to do.

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  13. Jake says:
    @Alden
    Anyone can write a book. Getting it published is quite another thing

    But getting a book about normal
    chikdren doing things on the school reading lists?

    Never !!!!!

    That is true not just of children’s lit. Our entire publishing world is controlled by Cultural Marxist ideas. You got a novel in which a black lesbian promotes abortion and is revealed to have had sex with a teenage girl, introducing her also to dope?

    The only way that gets published is if it also features something the Left finds redeeming: like the black lesbian child abusing druggie opposes anti-Semtism and loves the new Moslems.

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  14. Jewish intellectuals have, in recent decades, pushed the idea that nativist and/or anti-Jewish attitudes are on a par with a highly infectious disease —

    Intellectuals? The little pishers’ intellectualism is as fraudulent as it is celebrated. It’s mostly juvenile garbage.

    So they believe that anti-Jewish attitudes are diseases?

    Strange ,or maybe not, coming from an evidently paranoid cliquish group with many obsessions; exclusion, subjugation and humiliation of goyim foremost among them. Far from being “a highly infectious disease,” anti-goy attitudes seem to be considered necessary for health, indeed life. What a primitive mindset!

    I’ve long been astonished that what feel toward us they see in us. The crackpot narcissism involved with G-d’s “Chosen” ones is beyond both belief and description.

    How do healthy people, few of whom have the slightest clue about the depth of the craziness, deal with such mind boggling insanity?

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    • Replies: @renfro

    Intellectuals? The little pishers’ intellectualism is as fraudulent as it is celebrated. It’s mostly juvenile garbage.
     
    When I picture a Jewish intellectual I see a 14 year old mentality bent over his thesaurus.......mistakenly thinking verbosity and esoteric words will make people think he's intellectual.
    , @Druid
    Yup, and they are leaders in pornography, pedophilia (see Talmud), weapons manufacturing, alcohol during prohibition, drug running, big participants in slavery, etc., etc. There's a weird sickness in the Talmudists
    , @Bill jones
    The word to use is counter-semitism
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  15. @jilles dykstra
    In any western society with jews they were or are heavily over represented in intellectual activities, politicians, judges, doctors, professors, whatever.
    When Hungary forbade jews to work for newspapers, among other things, they found out that no newspaper could appear any more.
    ‘Christianity and the Holocaust of the Hungarian Jewry’, Moshe Y Herclz, 1993 New York University press

    Even Hitler had his indispensible jews.
    The team that worked on the German hydrogen bomb consisted of two 'real' Germans and one jewish German.
    Rainer Karlsch, 'Hitlers Bom, Hoe Nazi-Duitsland nucleaire wapens testte in een wanhopige poging om de oorlog te winnen, Tielt, 2005 (Hitlers Bombe, München)

    Konstanze von Schulthess, ´Nina Schenk Gräfin von Stauffenberg, Ein Porträt’, München 2009
    A jewish relative was a test pilot even in early 1945, she was at liberty to fly to the Stauffenberg residence.
    She was killed when flying by a USA fighter bomber.

    Even Hitler had his indispensible jews.

    If people only knew how true that was. Contrary to the standard story, Hitler depended on Jews to a large extent. Everyone knows that the public image of politicians is one thing while their actions are often quite another.

    It’s probably not too far from the truth to say that if it were not for Jews, Hitler would have neither obtained nor sustained much power whatsoever. To a large extent I suspect his anti-Jewish rhetoric was for public consumption mainly motivated by the need to maintain some sort of loyalty among his supporters, some of whom were rabidly anti-Jewish to be sure, but even they appear to have been largely motivated by anti-Bolshevism primarily.

    I would even go so far as to assert that Hitler was in a continuous struggle with other party members to tone down the anti-Jewish activity since he needed the support of Jewish industrialists, bankers, traders, bureaucrats and newspapers to get anything done at all. A big reason for this is that Jews in Germany (and in surrounding countries) dominated most fields just as they do now in the US.

    Not only did Hitler rely on rich,powerful assimilated Jews, but Germany had been suffering with a virtual flood of poor Jews from Eastern Europe who were competing with native Germans in a time of very high unemployment. Those who damn Hitler out of hand would do well to reflect on the fact that the US has never produced a politician who could even begin to deal effectively with such enormous problems as he faced.

    Hitler certainly had his faults, but he was up against incredible forces. What Trump and Netanyahoo have to deal with pales in comparison.

    The anti-Hitler hysteria that lingers on even to this day is largely Bolshie propaganda and we all know how over the top that dirt was, don’t we?

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    • Replies: @Wally
    said:
    "The anti-Hitler hysteria that lingers on even to this day is largely Bolshie propaganda and we all know how over the top that dirt was, don’t we?"

    Indeed, the absurd impossibility of the laughably alleged '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' is at the top of list.

    Without the fake 'holocaust' Jews would not be able to get away with their crimes.
    www.codoh.com
    The tide is turning.

    a must read:
    Auschwitz World Tour, coming to a city near you.
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11517
    What other claimed 'historical fact' requires such laughable efforts to prove itself?"

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  16. To see what the Zionists are doing as a sacrifice to satan please read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION, the destruction of the family and morals is all part of the Zionist satanic plan.

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  17. This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they’re here to corrupt us.

    I can’t say much about children literature, but Joyce’s imagined connection of Jews with pornography is simply absurd. It seems that the author doesn’t know much about European tradition of eroticism, orgiastic sexuality & “perversions”. In this world-view, dirty middle-Eastern hooked nosed Semitic deviants are, following their “group evolutionary strategy” (which is as real as phlogiston or Nessie), perpetually trying to subvert our august morality.

    So then-what about Roman orgies? Did the author read Tacitus’ “Annals”, chapters on Tiberius, Nero,.. Or Suetonius ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Caesars )? Or, later authors like Pietro Aretino, John Cleland, Marquis de Sade (the king of all depravities),… up to pansexual maniac of heroic Victorian age, Richard Francis Burton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton ) & all the rest.

    Or prince Kropotkin’s autobiography, where the father of anarchism writes on massive orgies among graduates of Russian military academy that would put to shame Mesopotamian & Babylonian sexual excesses.

    Or the fact that the most vigorous & promiscuous Hollyweirdos have always been “Aryans” (Clare Bow, Mae West, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable, Joan Crawford, Bette Davis,…up to Nicholson and Beatty).

    Of course there were (and are) pornographers & lechers among Jews (for instance, Felix Salten, the author of “Bambi”), but to pin down porn imagination & activity on Jews is just- preposterous.

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    Yes, we all know about Roman orgies, just as we all know about Turkish harems. Decadent élites are nothing new. What's new here is that such perversions are being openly and actively promoted to society as a whole by a cadre of fanatics which happens to be disproportionately Jewish.
    , @Oscar Peterson
    So your long, spurious comment has what to do with the double standard displayed by Bethea Newman and other Jews between the subversive schlock they produce for the goy masses and the pro-Jew kid lit lovingly crafted for internal Jew consumption?
    , @AaronB
    You make a good point, but your logic is off.

    Yes, we need to point out that Jewish behavior and attitudes have antecedents in European culture.

    The original "culture of critique" is surely the European Enlightenment, which criticized and undermed the traditional foundations of European culture more thoroughly and more effectively than Jews ever could have done, and it was all done by whites.

    However, just because whites began the process of undermining themselves does not mean that Jews have not extended and amplified this process, and subverted it for their own ends.

    So it's not an either/or kind of situation, you see. It's both. Whites have a pornigraphic tradition but Jews have now extended it, amplified it, and weaponized it. Europeans invented the culture of critique but Jews have amplified it and weaponized it.

    And you're right, McDonald's "group evolution theory" is fanciful and far fetched, but one doesn't have to subscribe to his genetic determinism to note that he has described Jewish traits and behavior with uncanny accuracy.

    Unlike Mcdonald, I attribute Jewish behavior to the almost unbearable psychological pressure created by a dysfunctional culture, but growing up among Jews, I can only marvel at his unerring ability to describe Jewish traits.

    You admit, in principle, the existence of racial animosity, and accuse many here of suffering from it. Yet you refuse to consider, even in principle, that Jews have racial animosity towards whites?

    That does not seem consistent, balanced, or fair.
    , @Alden
    The article is about American children’s literature that is required reading in the public schools. American private schools use the same reading lists.
    The children’s section in all the big book stores and on line book sales are full of the same books pushing homosexuality on children too young to know or care anything about sex.


    It’s not about European adult porn and sex through the ages.
    , @Twodees Partain
    You really should read an article before commenting on it. I understand that this a long article. You need to read it anyway if you intend to express an opinion on it.
    , @isthatright
    So your snobbish rant disproved what in this article?
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    We all know about sanctity of profit. We all know that sanctity of profit is unassailable.
    So Jews in porn industry making profit cannot be a questioned.

    But this is a special case. In this case it is expected that that it is a parent who suppose to buy this book.
    This kind of book would be purchased by lesbian or gay people. This fact is indicating that profit from this book would be very low and even questionable. So who would write this kind book and who would print this book, when it is a risky enterprise.
    This fact undoubtedly indicates that there is a political value behind this enterprise.
    I did read the article in flight mode so I do not know if school boards are pushing this propaganda on the schools, or not. But distribution of this kind of books and ideas by any other means than legal purchases must be illegal
    , @renfro

    This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they’re here to corrupt us
     
    People have been making the same complaints about Jews for 2000 years.

    So ...are we to believe that the peoples of 100's of countries that expelled Jews thru out history were all wrong or lying or infected with the anti-Semitism disease?

    And the Jews were the only people on earth never guilty of anything?

    That is the meme they promote---but good luck getting anyone in their right mind to believe there exist on earth a special group of humans incapable of wrong doing. It's absurd.

    Anti-Semitism throughout history has been the reaction of the gentiles to the deeds of the Jews in their midst.
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  18. @anonymous-antimarxist
    'Roseanne' actress Sara Gilbert says her cross-dressing son in the show is NOT transgender and explains they created the character for reboot because he 'represents the world' today

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5243169/Roseanne-grandson-dresses-like-girl-not-transgender.html

    A reboot of the iconic show 'Rosanne' will return to television, and while it features the old cast, one of the new characters that will be introduced is Rosanne's grandson, who dresses like a girl.

    The character is a nine-year-old named Mark, played by Ames McNamara. The show's executive producer Sara Gilbert, who is returning on screen as Darlene, explains he is not
    transgender, transitioning or gay.

    Gilbert, speaking to Entertainment Weekly explains: 'He’s not a transgender character. He’s a little boy. He’s based on a few kids in my life that are boys who dress in more traditionally feminine clothing.

    'He’s too young to be gay and he doesn’t identify as transgender, but he just likes wearing that kind of clothing and that’s where he is at this point in his life.'

     

    The actress Sara Gilbert is a jewish lesbian, LGBT activist, and well connected TV producer and Hollywood insider.

    The actress Sara Gilbert is a jewish lesbian, LGBT activist, and well connected TV producer and Hollywood insider.

    Sara Gilbert’s past partner for decade was Alison Adler, was a business/creative/showrunner partner of the biggest pusher/producer of degenerate television in the last decade the fanatic gay activist Ryan Murphy. Together they developed the notorious 2012 bomb though heavily hyped ‘The New Normal’ about a gay couple paying an unwed mother to allow them to buy/adopt her second surrogate child based on Murphy’s real life.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allison_Adler

    Alison Adler went on to create the extreme feminist comic book series ‘Supergirl’.

    Ryan Murphy is outspoken about wanting to normalize gay sex on TV and pushing the most degenerate content imaginable.

    He is the creator behind Nip/Tuck, American Horror Story, Glee, The New Normal and a dozen more shows and films….

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Murphy_(writer)

    Murphy has been married to photographer David Miller since July 2012.[32] On December 24, 2012, Murphy and Miller welcomed their first child, a son named Logan Phineas, via a surrogate. In October 2014, they welcomed their second son, Ford.[33]

    Here are a couple of Ryan Murphy’s latest shows.

    Why FX’s ‘Feud’ Used the C-Word in Its Premier

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/why-fxs-feud-just-used-c-word-983177

    Feud: Bette and Joan, from prolific producer Ryan Murphy, explores the famed behind-the-scenesclash between Hollywood stars Joan Crawford (Jessica Lange) and Bette Davis (Susan Sarandon). During Sunday’s series debut, Stanley Tucci’s studio chief Jack Warner — in a heated discussion with Alfred Molina’s Robert Aldrich — angrily called Davis a “cunt.” It came in a scene during which Aldrich was attempting to convince Warner and his studio to distribute What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? starring Davis, the woman who famously sued Warner Bros. to get out of her deal.

    Pose: Your first look at the transgender cast of Ryan Murphy’s groundbreaking new series

    http://ew.com/tv/2017/11/17/pose-transgender-cast/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pose_(TV_series)

    Murphy and his team began casting for the show in March 2017. Following a six-month nationwide casting search,[7] the production announced that they had assembled the largest transgender cast ever for a scripted series. Those transgender actors joining the main cast include MJ Rodriguez, Indya Moore, Dominique Jackson, Hailie Sahar, and Angelica Ross. Cisgender actors concurrently announced were Ryan Jamaal Swain, Billy Porter and Dyllon Burnside.[5] The series is expected to include over 50 transgender characters total.[4] A day later, FX announced Evan Peters, Kate Mara, James Van Der Beek and Tatiana Maslany were also joining the series and were set to portray Stan, Patty, Matt, and a dance teacher, respectively.[8][9]

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  19. @Backwoods bob
    I've written hundreds of them. Now our kids write a story every day in their second language, at six and eight years old. You can bang out a story in minutes, and it has your own kids' names in it along with mommy and daddy, their dog, family and friends, heros, arch criminals like the Clintons - whatever you want. You can paste illustrations, maps, your own pictures, etc.

    I know parents who spend ghastly $ on books and amazing amounts of time pawing through the asinine PC selections when you can just write your own virtually for free. The retards at the government school down the road are 11 years behind our eight year old in reading ability and seven years behind our six year old. But they know a penis goes in your rear end.

    Stupidity plus perversion - what's not to love about PC literature and education?

    Bravo to you, sir!

    Superb suggestions.

    Most of us stupid goyim won’t do it though; mom and dad feel compelled to submit to wage, tax, and debt slavery in order to obtain the phony “prestige” they think they’ll get by collecting all the “Kool” and shiny gadgets and useless garbage they can.

    Even primitive cargo cultists didn’t stoop to those lows.

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  20. @anony-mouse
    If the folks at OO are so concerned about children's litterature why don't they write and publish their own? They seem to assume there are parents who would prefer other types of books.

    Or following the old paleo can't-do mentality, they may just prefer complaining about what others do.

    There are plenty of good, traditionalist books for children on the market already, and they sell just fine. The problem is that the multi-culti homophilic degeneracy described in the article is what is being pushed on the kids by the educational system. The public education system is being used as a brain-washing mechanism to instill political correctness into young minds that are not well-developed enough to think critically.

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  21. And a couple of other things…

    It would be enlightening to discover who/what was/were behind the eugenics movements, abortion advocates, mass extermination of goyim, initiators of propaganda, etc.

    Connecting the dots was never a strong suit of the hoi polloi though, and acting effectively on the results would be something else altogether.

    Could it be that those who obsess over being exterminated, fantasize about doing the extermination?

    Could it be that all the tall tales about being abused are fantasies about doing the abusing?

    Nah, couldn’t be. What am I, some kinda nutcase? It must be envy on my part; what else could it be?

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  22. @Bardon Kaldian
    This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they're here to corrupt us.

    I can't say much about children literature, but Joyce's imagined connection of Jews with pornography is simply absurd. It seems that the author doesn't know much about European tradition of eroticism, orgiastic sexuality & "perversions". In this world-view, dirty middle-Eastern hooked nosed Semitic deviants are, following their "group evolutionary strategy" (which is as real as phlogiston or Nessie), perpetually trying to subvert our august morality.

    So then-what about Roman orgies? Did the author read Tacitus' "Annals", chapters on Tiberius, Nero,.. Or Suetonius ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Caesars )? Or, later authors like Pietro Aretino, John Cleland, Marquis de Sade (the king of all depravities),... up to pansexual maniac of heroic Victorian age, Richard Francis Burton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton ) & all the rest.

    Or prince Kropotkin's autobiography, where the father of anarchism writes on massive orgies among graduates of Russian military academy that would put to shame Mesopotamian & Babylonian sexual excesses.

    Or the fact that the most vigorous & promiscuous Hollyweirdos have always been "Aryans" (Clare Bow, Mae West, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable, Joan Crawford, Bette Davis,...up to Nicholson and Beatty).

    Of course there were (and are) pornographers & lechers among Jews (for instance, Felix Salten, the author of "Bambi"), but to pin down porn imagination & activity on Jews is just- preposterous.

    Yes, we all know about Roman orgies, just as we all know about Turkish harems. Decadent élites are nothing new. What’s new here is that such perversions are being openly and actively promoted to society as a whole by a cadre of fanatics which happens to be disproportionately Jewish.

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    A Turkish harem was not for orgies.
    If a girl there had sex once in the time she was there she was the exception.
    I suppose one can see harems as rich people now collect antique cars, and, of course, it was seen as an honour to have one's daughter in the harem.
    That they did not bore themselves to death there surprises me.
    Nevertheless, when there was the revolution, the Sultan removed, the harem girls were told they were free, they did not know where to go, or what to do.
    , @jilles dykstra
    I know about the Strauss Kahn orgies.
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  23. biz says:

    Children need to be taught to share, and to be tolerant of other people. Some of these books seem pretty reasonable, like the one about the boy learning to share his box (A few sound terrible, like the ones talking about masturbation – I wonder how common that actually is). Even two mommies or two daddies or whatever, those kids should not be beat up or ostracized on the playground. Does anyone here actually have kids and understand what influences they actually need?

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    Are you really that naive? Or are you just another shill for some deep pockets ultra Leftist group?
    , @Oscar Peterson
    The point is, biz, why is the same two-mommy stuff not being produced in the jewkidlit as well as the goykidlit that these shlockmeisters are generating?
    , @Mr. Anon
    The story states that he made his "home" out of a box. If he doesn't want to share it, why should he? It's his damned box. Do you share everything you have?
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  24. Stewbumer says:

    Heather’s Mommy is a lesbo.
    Lets call a spade a spade.

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    I'm afraid it's worse than that, Stew. Both of her mommies are lesbos.
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  25. Jake says:
    @biz
    Children need to be taught to share, and to be tolerant of other people. Some of these books seem pretty reasonable, like the one about the boy learning to share his box (A few sound terrible, like the ones talking about masturbation - I wonder how common that actually is). Even two mommies or two daddies or whatever, those kids should not be beat up or ostracized on the playground. Does anyone here actually have kids and understand what influences they actually need?

    Are you really that naive? Or are you just another shill for some deep pockets ultra Leftist group?

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  26. Wally says: • Website
    @anony-mouse
    If the folks at OO are so concerned about children's litterature why don't they write and publish their own? They seem to assume there are parents who would prefer other types of books.

    Or following the old paleo can't-do mentality, they may just prefer complaining about what others do.

    They do write them, but they are censored. Pay attention.

    http://www.codoh.com

    Speaking of being generally censored:

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos here:

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

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  27. In this discussion we rarely see the religious Jews and secular Jews treated as the very different groups that they are. The Jewish religious community uses their ancient laws as rules to live by, and with them they have maintained their community over many centuries. Their rebellious children who are atheists on the other hand use their people’s literacy as a weapon. The secular Jews use the Bible as a template, a manual on human temptations, which they can use to tempt their enemies, ie the societies in which they are living as a minority. A majority of the citizens of Israel will openly tell you “I do not believe in God, Judaism is my race.” They are secular Jews.

    It is not believing Jews, obeying Jews, real Jews who are doing this with children’s literature and American culture in general. It is a gang of pseudo-Jewish Khazars with very little genetic link to any Semitic genes. These people with racist attitudes more severe than anything you will encounter among American Southerners run Hollywood and the media. They drive the whole feminist agenda. Just as the modern world owes it Communism and its atomic weapons totally to secular Jews, its feminism is their creation. They sell their enemies values proven to destroy and undermine any people so recently literate as to not know better.

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    Yes, differences between subgroups of Jews do exist, but one shouldn't exaggerate them. Given that the secular conquest and ongoing elimination of the Palestinians as a people is simply a modern version of the religiously originated narrative of the extermination of the Canaanites because God allegedly wanted the Jews (Israelites) to possess their land, it's important to note how much in common, below the surface level, Jews have had and still have. All this "Jews-are-way-too-diverse-to make-generalizations-about" schlock is usually deeply dishonest.
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  28. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra
    In any western society with jews they were or are heavily over represented in intellectual activities, politicians, judges, doctors, professors, whatever.
    When Hungary forbade jews to work for newspapers, among other things, they found out that no newspaper could appear any more.
    ‘Christianity and the Holocaust of the Hungarian Jewry’, Moshe Y Herclz, 1993 New York University press

    Even Hitler had his indispensible jews.
    The team that worked on the German hydrogen bomb consisted of two 'real' Germans and one jewish German.
    Rainer Karlsch, 'Hitlers Bom, Hoe Nazi-Duitsland nucleaire wapens testte in een wanhopige poging om de oorlog te winnen, Tielt, 2005 (Hitlers Bombe, München)

    Konstanze von Schulthess, ´Nina Schenk Gräfin von Stauffenberg, Ein Porträt’, München 2009
    A jewish relative was a test pilot even in early 1945, she was at liberty to fly to the Stauffenberg residence.
    She was killed when flying by a USA fighter bomber.

    Your “bomb”claim is from a highly questionable source.
    No doubt ‘soap made from Jews’ is next.

    Not mentioned, the fact that thousands of known Jews lived in Berlin throughout all of WWII.
    Yet allegedly there was ‘a plan to kill every Jew the Germans could get their hands on’.

    Yes, there were many Jews that served in Germany’s Wehrmacht .

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

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    You obviously did not read the well researched book.
    A witness of a test explosion that succeeded, an envoy of Mussolini, was interviewed.
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  29. Art says:

    it is worth recalling Newman’s description of herself and Gover not as feminists or lesbians, but as “fierce Jewish women”

    Jew women have a lot of anger in them. Jewish women have it in for Jewish men. Traditionally, Jewish women were second class to men. Jew men treated them badly. Jew men are never faithful in marriage.

    These Jew women having one set of values for themselves as Jews, and another for Gentiles is endemic of the whole Jew question.

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    The unspoken victims of all this horndogging by wealthy Jewish men are their wives, who have to sit home and quietly endure it. It's not even grounds for divorce under traditional Jewish law, as consorting with shiksas does not count as adultery.
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  30. Wally says:
    @Kam Phlodius
    One thing I know for sure, this article will never be published on the Breitbart website, Bannon or no Bannon. I have been assured by Breitbart readers that Marx and Einstein were Jesuits! I'm sure they are convinced Freud was also.

    Indeed, Breitbart must be read with caution. Their rabid pro Zionist, anti Iran views are legion.

    Too bad, they do publish some good take downs of the left.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  31. @Bardon Kaldian
    This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they're here to corrupt us.

    I can't say much about children literature, but Joyce's imagined connection of Jews with pornography is simply absurd. It seems that the author doesn't know much about European tradition of eroticism, orgiastic sexuality & "perversions". In this world-view, dirty middle-Eastern hooked nosed Semitic deviants are, following their "group evolutionary strategy" (which is as real as phlogiston or Nessie), perpetually trying to subvert our august morality.

    So then-what about Roman orgies? Did the author read Tacitus' "Annals", chapters on Tiberius, Nero,.. Or Suetonius ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Caesars )? Or, later authors like Pietro Aretino, John Cleland, Marquis de Sade (the king of all depravities),... up to pansexual maniac of heroic Victorian age, Richard Francis Burton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton ) & all the rest.

    Or prince Kropotkin's autobiography, where the father of anarchism writes on massive orgies among graduates of Russian military academy that would put to shame Mesopotamian & Babylonian sexual excesses.

    Or the fact that the most vigorous & promiscuous Hollyweirdos have always been "Aryans" (Clare Bow, Mae West, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable, Joan Crawford, Bette Davis,...up to Nicholson and Beatty).

    Of course there were (and are) pornographers & lechers among Jews (for instance, Felix Salten, the author of "Bambi"), but to pin down porn imagination & activity on Jews is just- preposterous.

    So your long, spurious comment has what to do with the double standard displayed by Bethea Newman and other Jews between the subversive schlock they produce for the goy masses and the pro-Jew kid lit lovingly crafted for internal Jew consumption?

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  32. @biz
    Children need to be taught to share, and to be tolerant of other people. Some of these books seem pretty reasonable, like the one about the boy learning to share his box (A few sound terrible, like the ones talking about masturbation - I wonder how common that actually is). Even two mommies or two daddies or whatever, those kids should not be beat up or ostracized on the playground. Does anyone here actually have kids and understand what influences they actually need?

    The point is, biz, why is the same two-mommy stuff not being produced in the jewkidlit as well as the goykidlit that these shlockmeisters are generating?

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    I just did a google search for "Jewish LGBT children's books" and came up with many examples of children's books with gay themes for the Jewish community.

    It would be less embarrassing if the people who comment here would make some minimal attempt to see if what they assert were true.
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  33. Wally says:
    @Anonymous
    Every indoctrination replaces a previous one. It's not about truth-versus-indoctrination.

    Why is this premise absent from the article?

    Examples?

    Or just Jew excuse making.

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  34. Wally says:
    @daniel le mouche
    Enlightening article, thank you. This issue has bothered gnawed at me for years (since having a child)--it is disgusting, and of course, everywhere you look. One quick example (it seems by a white South African, couldn't get better bio info) that I've read several times because it's here and my three year old wants me to, most recently two days ago (when I simply stopped in the middle of it, so sick did I feel), is Herd Boy, by Niki Daly. It's total bullshit, as anyone with a clue can see. There are endless others, but I personally read Where the Wild Things Are and Forever as a child, as did, I think, everybody at that time, the early seventies.
    I've generally been so sickened by this, along with literally EVERYTHING ELSE at all 'cultural' peddled relentlessly to us all, but most especially our young, that I wouldn't have had the stomach for any in depth research. Glad the author did. Especially enlightening was his first example, of the lesbian who also publishes traditional Jewish books--priceless.
    Thanks also for comment on the Teachers' Union's Jewish control.

    Hence, home schooling.

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  35. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    Even Hitler had his indispensible jews.
     
    If people only knew how true that was. Contrary to the standard story, Hitler depended on Jews to a large extent. Everyone knows that the public image of politicians is one thing while their actions are often quite another.

    It's probably not too far from the truth to say that if it were not for Jews, Hitler would have neither obtained nor sustained much power whatsoever. To a large extent I suspect his anti-Jewish rhetoric was for public consumption mainly motivated by the need to maintain some sort of loyalty among his supporters, some of whom were rabidly anti-Jewish to be sure, but even they appear to have been largely motivated by anti-Bolshevism primarily.

    I would even go so far as to assert that Hitler was in a continuous struggle with other party members to tone down the anti-Jewish activity since he needed the support of Jewish industrialists, bankers, traders, bureaucrats and newspapers to get anything done at all. A big reason for this is that Jews in Germany (and in surrounding countries) dominated most fields just as they do now in the US.

    Not only did Hitler rely on rich,powerful assimilated Jews, but Germany had been suffering with a virtual flood of poor Jews from Eastern Europe who were competing with native Germans in a time of very high unemployment. Those who damn Hitler out of hand would do well to reflect on the fact that the US has never produced a politician who could even begin to deal effectively with such enormous problems as he faced.

    Hitler certainly had his faults, but he was up against incredible forces. What Trump and Netanyahoo have to deal with pales in comparison.

    The anti-Hitler hysteria that lingers on even to this day is largely Bolshie propaganda and we all know how over the top that dirt was, don't we?

    said:
    “The anti-Hitler hysteria that lingers on even to this day is largely Bolshie propaganda and we all know how over the top that dirt was, don’t we?”

    Indeed, the absurd impossibility of the laughably alleged ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ is at the top of list.

    Without the fake ‘holocaust’ Jews would not be able to get away with their crimes.
    http://www.codoh.com
    The tide is turning.

    a must read:
    Auschwitz World Tour, coming to a city near you.

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11517

    What other claimed ‘historical fact’ requires such laughable efforts to prove itself?”

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  36. @Wally
    Your "bomb"claim is from a highly questionable source.
    No doubt 'soap made from Jews' is next.

    Not mentioned, the fact that thousands of known Jews lived in Berlin throughout all of WWII.
    Yet allegedly there was ‘a plan to kill every Jew the Germans could get their hands on’.

    Yes, there were many Jews that served in Germany's Wehrmacht .

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
    If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

    You obviously did not read the well researched book.
    A witness of a test explosion that succeeded, an envoy of Mussolini, was interviewed.

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    "A German test atomic explosion" ??

    That would have necessarily been seen by more than your lone "witness".
    BTW, there's thousands of "witnesses" to witchcraft too.

    And where is the massive physical proof that would also necessarily exist if such a claim was true.

    At the Nuremberg Show Trials it was claimed in a faked communist 'document' as discussed by prosecutor Jackson that a German atomic bomb killed 20,000 Jews, Jackson admitted the 'document' was fake, and it was quietly dropped.
    Even the fake Zionist 'historians' have ditched the absurdity of German atomic bombs,

    Indeed then, you must a True Believer in 'soap made from Jews, the equally laughable 'human skin lampshades, and impossible 'gas chambers'.
    Try not to die stupid.
    www.codoh.com
    The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

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  37. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they're here to corrupt us.

    I can't say much about children literature, but Joyce's imagined connection of Jews with pornography is simply absurd. It seems that the author doesn't know much about European tradition of eroticism, orgiastic sexuality & "perversions". In this world-view, dirty middle-Eastern hooked nosed Semitic deviants are, following their "group evolutionary strategy" (which is as real as phlogiston or Nessie), perpetually trying to subvert our august morality.

    So then-what about Roman orgies? Did the author read Tacitus' "Annals", chapters on Tiberius, Nero,.. Or Suetonius ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Caesars )? Or, later authors like Pietro Aretino, John Cleland, Marquis de Sade (the king of all depravities),... up to pansexual maniac of heroic Victorian age, Richard Francis Burton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton ) & all the rest.

    Or prince Kropotkin's autobiography, where the father of anarchism writes on massive orgies among graduates of Russian military academy that would put to shame Mesopotamian & Babylonian sexual excesses.

    Or the fact that the most vigorous & promiscuous Hollyweirdos have always been "Aryans" (Clare Bow, Mae West, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable, Joan Crawford, Bette Davis,...up to Nicholson and Beatty).

    Of course there were (and are) pornographers & lechers among Jews (for instance, Felix Salten, the author of "Bambi"), but to pin down porn imagination & activity on Jews is just- preposterous.

    You make a good point, but your logic is off.

    Yes, we need to point out that Jewish behavior and attitudes have antecedents in European culture.

    The original “culture of critique” is surely the European Enlightenment, which criticized and undermed the traditional foundations of European culture more thoroughly and more effectively than Jews ever could have done, and it was all done by whites.

    However, just because whites began the process of undermining themselves does not mean that Jews have not extended and amplified this process, and subverted it for their own ends.

    So it’s not an either/or kind of situation, you see. It’s both. Whites have a pornigraphic tradition but Jews have now extended it, amplified it, and weaponized it. Europeans invented the culture of critique but Jews have amplified it and weaponized it.

    And you’re right, McDonald’s “group evolution theory” is fanciful and far fetched, but one doesn’t have to subscribe to his genetic determinism to note that he has described Jewish traits and behavior with uncanny accuracy.

    Unlike Mcdonald, I attribute Jewish behavior to the almost unbearable psychological pressure created by a dysfunctional culture, but growing up among Jews, I can only marvel at his unerring ability to describe Jewish traits.

    You admit, in principle, the existence of racial animosity, and accuse many here of suffering from it. Yet you refuse to consider, even in principle, that Jews have racial animosity towards whites?

    That does not seem consistent, balanced, or fair.

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    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don't think you belong to that category). I'll just write a summary of a summary (basically, a C/P) & for serious analyses- whoever is interested- point to Laqueur's & Brustein's works (there are tons of them, but this would have to suffice: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4E86242277746DA6E5587E4DF122BDD1 , http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E194C4F4F44E1146ACC4881034E0CDDC )

    I don't want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I'll go...

    1. you write as Jews are a separate, non-white "race". In all likelihood, they are, phenotypically -not "people of color". They're, visually, Mediterranean types we can find in Greece, southern Italy etc. Of course, some Jewish racial nationalists will disagree: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/

    Well: a) not all Caucasians are white. You can be both Caucasian & non-white- for instance most Iranians and Arabs. b) Jews are a mixed bag & most of them look white. And now we come to the "social construct" element of race: those Jews who look white & identify with Western civilization will sign for white race/identity; on the other hand, nationalist, Judaist Jews who identify "whiteness" with their historical enemy, Europe, both pre-Christian (Greece & Rome) & Christian will opt for non-white MENA "race".

    2. you conflate ancestry & identity. So, for instance, Karl Marx was not a Jew in his own eyes, only a person of Jewish ancestry. For his opponents like Bakunin and Duhring he was a "Jew" because they saw Jewishness as a genealogical stain, and therefore Marx could be a "Jew" without knowing anything of Jewish culture, either religious or secular, or possessing a sense of loyalty toward "real", Judaistic Jews.That was label they put on him, not manifestation of his self-consciousness.
    Also, atheist Jews can claim Jewish identity (tribal secular culture), but I'm skeptical about Jewish converts to Christianity. Judaist Jews, generally, don't consider them to be Jewish anymore. Cultural gap is too wide.

    And now summing up- I don't see hyper-analysis of various areas would change much..

    Jews are an ethnic religion or religious culture. They are not a "race" (except in the 19th C sense), but they do have a non-negligible genetic homogeneity (apart from Ethiopian "Jews", most Jews are Europeanized Middle Easterners).
    Theirs is a tribal ethnic religion, similar to Parsis or Sikhs: that's why Ivanka Trump is not a Jewess, although she may think so. If a William Bond from Tuscaloosa converts to Sikhism, he won't become a "Sikh" (although he may consider himself to be, similar to James Jesus Angleton's progeny). Due to the tribalism, Jews remain something like a people (which is impossoble in universalist religions like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism).

    In past two centuries, European Jews - with Haredi & a few other exceptions- have
    assimilated into host societies: German, Russian, French, British, Austrian, Italian, Polish,..

    The highest level of assimilation had been achieved in pre- Hitler Germany where most German Jews had considered themselves to be Germans primarily, and Jews only
    secondarily. This can be seen from their high participation in all-German national efforts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenz%C3%A4hlung & high percentages of intermarriage, which fluctuated from 25% to 40% during 1920s.

    How it all ended, we know.

    American Jews, most of them, have their roots in Russian Empire (they've swamped earlier, more "European" German Jewish immigrants). They have retained their national culture (Yiddish, written in Hebrew script), numerous dietary laws & other customs. In short, US got mostly unassimilated ghetto Jews.

    Due to their work ethics, culture, slightly higher IQ & ethnic networking, they thrived in the US in various areas & became very influential. From early 1900s to, perhaps, Six Days War in 1967, most of them tried to assimilate & become virtually indistinguishable from WASPs.

    But then, things changed & many US Jews had recovered their primary ethnic-cultural identity as Jews first. Because this is a sensitive issue, there is no profusion of reliable sociological investigation data, graphs, categorizations. Just, as a rule of thumb, we can divide Jewish Americans into a few
    categories:

    1. JINOs. Many US "Jews" are assimilated & don't think of themselves as Jews primarily. They account for anything between 20% and 50%.

    2. secular & religious Jews who possess partial Jewish identity, but for them it is blended with broader American loyalty. It is hard to tell how many people belong to this category.

    3. religious Orthodox Jews who may be annoying as neighbors, but are not too politically minded.

    4. the last segment would be American Jews (as different from Jewish Americans). They can be secular or religious; rich or poor; intensity of their commitment to Israel or Jewish ethnic activism may vary, but they are basically cultural aliens in US & Europe. For secularists, Auschwitz & Israel have replaced Torah & Talmud as chief emotional anticorrosives that shield them from assimilation.

    My guess is that they are somewhere between 15% and 25% of all US Jews. This segment can be further divided into subsegments (for instance, some are anti-Christian, while others are not). But, what is common to them is their clear differentiation from host national cultures, stubborn insistence on their ethnic-national individuality & a sense of being an "endangered species". Some subsegments of this portion of American Jews are true aliens in the US & through their ethnic activism, frequently masked as moral universalism, try to subvert dominant cultural values & change host society into a shapeless mess.

    This is a minority of Jewish Americans, but they have economic, societal, cultural & political impact by far surpassing their numbers. And they seem not to learn from history: Brazilian Jews, because of slow but inevitable future collapse of multiracial Brazilian society are just trying to "get out". Jewish elites, across the world, are still in thrall to Nazi-Aryan iconography & mythology as the central threat to their existence, while the world has moved past it long ago.

    In this, last portion of Jewish Americans one can find typical traits of cultural alienation, ethnic paranoia, "us" vs. "them" mentality, ..basically, a sense of being a perpetual stranger who wants to shape the dominant discourse & identity in order to avoid- in their eyes- future pogroms & genocide. Because in the fevered mind of pathological Jewish nationalists, Europeans & whites, virtually all of them, possess the inner Nazi screaming to get out & finally finalize the Final Solution. This is an illustration of such a mindset:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

    http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/nazism-and-christian-heritage

    It's not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ....
    , @Wally
    Except the " European Enlightenment" was nothing like Jew propaganda.

    www.codoh.com
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  38. Alden says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they're here to corrupt us.

    I can't say much about children literature, but Joyce's imagined connection of Jews with pornography is simply absurd. It seems that the author doesn't know much about European tradition of eroticism, orgiastic sexuality & "perversions". In this world-view, dirty middle-Eastern hooked nosed Semitic deviants are, following their "group evolutionary strategy" (which is as real as phlogiston or Nessie), perpetually trying to subvert our august morality.

    So then-what about Roman orgies? Did the author read Tacitus' "Annals", chapters on Tiberius, Nero,.. Or Suetonius ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Caesars )? Or, later authors like Pietro Aretino, John Cleland, Marquis de Sade (the king of all depravities),... up to pansexual maniac of heroic Victorian age, Richard Francis Burton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton ) & all the rest.

    Or prince Kropotkin's autobiography, where the father of anarchism writes on massive orgies among graduates of Russian military academy that would put to shame Mesopotamian & Babylonian sexual excesses.

    Or the fact that the most vigorous & promiscuous Hollyweirdos have always been "Aryans" (Clare Bow, Mae West, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable, Joan Crawford, Bette Davis,...up to Nicholson and Beatty).

    Of course there were (and are) pornographers & lechers among Jews (for instance, Felix Salten, the author of "Bambi"), but to pin down porn imagination & activity on Jews is just- preposterous.

    The article is about American children’s literature that is required reading in the public schools. American private schools use the same reading lists.
    The children’s section in all the big book stores and on line book sales are full of the same books pushing homosexuality on children too young to know or care anything about sex.

    It’s not about European adult porn and sex through the ages.

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    The original “culture of critique” is surely the European Enlightenment, which criticized and undermed the traditional foundations of European culture more thoroughly and more effectively than Jews ever could have done, and it was all done by whites.

    However, just because whites began the process of undermining themselves does not mean that Jews have not extended and amplified this process, and subverted it for their own ends.

    So it’s not an either/or kind of situation, you see. It’s both. Whites have a pornigraphic tradition but Jews have now extended it, amplified it, and weaponized it. Europeans invented the culture of critique but Jews have amplified it and weaponized it.

    And you’re right, McDonald’s “group evolution theory” is fanciful and far fetched, but one doesn’t have to subscribe to his genetic determinism to note that he has described Jewish traits and behavior with uncanny accuracy.

    Unlike Mcdonald, I attribute Jewish behavior to the almost unbearable psychological pressure created by a dysfunctional culture, but growing up among Jews, I can only marvel at his unerring ability to describe Jewish traits.

    You admit, in principle, the existence of racial animosity, and accuse many here of suffering from it. Yet you refuse to consider, even in principle, that Jews have racial animosity towards whites?

    That does not seem consistent, balanced, or fair.
     
    Excellent comment.
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  39. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Backwoods bob
    I've written hundreds of them. Now our kids write a story every day in their second language, at six and eight years old. You can bang out a story in minutes, and it has your own kids' names in it along with mommy and daddy, their dog, family and friends, heros, arch criminals like the Clintons - whatever you want. You can paste illustrations, maps, your own pictures, etc.

    I know parents who spend ghastly $ on books and amazing amounts of time pawing through the asinine PC selections when you can just write your own virtually for free. The retards at the government school down the road are 11 years behind our eight year old in reading ability and seven years behind our six year old. But they know a penis goes in your rear end.

    Stupidity plus perversion - what's not to love about PC literature and education?

    “Government school”? That generally means the public gets to have a school of their own choosing. The attacks on public schools are from whom exacty?

    ‘My kids are way ahead’ Way ahead how? Way ahead what?

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    Are you retarded? Have you heard of a "test" before? There are boatloads of reading tests online for free and the results for the government school down the road are posted every year. We compare them.

    You can't even formulate a coherent sentence. One thing my kids are learning to handle is dealing with people that are so stupid they have no self-awareness. Like you. You don't understand how stupid you are, and think we're the stupid ones, since you can't even conceive how to measure something like reading ability.
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  40. @Seamus Padraig
    Yes, we all know about Roman orgies, just as we all know about Turkish harems. Decadent élites are nothing new. What's new here is that such perversions are being openly and actively promoted to society as a whole by a cadre of fanatics which happens to be disproportionately Jewish.

    A Turkish harem was not for orgies.
    If a girl there had sex once in the time she was there she was the exception.
    I suppose one can see harems as rich people now collect antique cars, and, of course, it was seen as an honour to have one’s daughter in the harem.
    That they did not bore themselves to death there surprises me.
    Nevertheless, when there was the revolution, the Sultan removed, the harem girls were told they were free, they did not know where to go, or what to do.

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    A Turkish harem was not for orgies.
    If a girl there had sex once in the time she was there she was the exception.
     
    Well certainly not orgies involving any male other than the Sultan.

    Harems are subject to the cruel laws of the Coolidge Effect. The over sated aging Sultan over time is rendered impotent unless he can be aroused by the presence of a new potential conquest.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect

    Psychologists have interviewed male porn performers/sex addicts and when asked what type of women it takes to arouse them, the answer is quite often "Simple, the NEXT ONE!!!" The presence of the next girl whether in the scene itself or at least standing by on set for a later scheduled scene is crucial for the male performer to obtain an erection.

    Read up on what Hugh Hefner, beginning in middle age, had to put himself through in order to function sexually. A new "bunny"/pornstar was crucial for Hefner along with drugs and vacuum devices to just get an erection just so he could then have sex with one of his regular "girlfriends".

    Now, Hefner did hold orgies because especially as he aged he needed even higher status males in the form of Hollywood/music stars to continue to attract the young women to the Playboy Mansion. That is why stars over the years from Tony Curtis, James Caan, Warren Beatty, to Leonardo DiCaprio were frequent guests.

    With the the abundance of internet porn the Coolidge Effect can now take its toll on your average male. There are virgin teenage boys who now can not orgasm through vaginal intercourse with a willing steady girlfriend. These young men are facing deep despair.

    Meanwhile over time the elite alpha male addicted to Tinder may have to swipe past dozens of willing attractive hook ups to find a female with whom to have sex successfully.
    , @Alden
    The harem women belonging to the sultan were sent back to their families after the revolution.

    It’s true that the women in the big harems often didn’t see the master much.

    But the average man who had 2 or 3 wives and several slave women had regular sex with all of them.
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  41. @Seamus Padraig
    Yes, we all know about Roman orgies, just as we all know about Turkish harems. Decadent élites are nothing new. What's new here is that such perversions are being openly and actively promoted to society as a whole by a cadre of fanatics which happens to be disproportionately Jewish.

    I know about the Strauss Kahn orgies.

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    If a minority wishes to cease power it must first divide the majority.

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    How does the far right or left learn about masturbation and desirable feelings they have for one sex or the other?

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  44. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra
    You obviously did not read the well researched book.
    A witness of a test explosion that succeeded, an envoy of Mussolini, was interviewed.

    “A German test atomic explosion” ??

    That would have necessarily been seen by more than your lone “witness”.
    BTW, there’s thousands of “witnesses” to witchcraft too.

    And where is the massive physical proof that would also necessarily exist if such a claim was true.

    At the Nuremberg Show Trials it was claimed in a faked communist ‘document’ as discussed by prosecutor Jackson that a German atomic bomb killed 20,000 Jews, Jackson admitted the ‘document’ was fake, and it was quietly dropped.
    Even the fake Zionist ‘historians’ have ditched the absurdity of German atomic bombs,

    Indeed then, you must a True Believer in ‘soap made from Jews, the equally laughable ‘human skin lampshades, and impossible ‘gas chambers’.
    Try not to die stupid.
    http://www.codoh.com
    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

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    You remind me of Churchill's scientific adviser prof Lindemann, phycisist, who, when British radar detected the VII flights, up to 80 km height, said it was impossible.
    Not until if I remember correctly Poles put the remains of a missile into a British plane, a hazardous flight, did the British discover that the Germans could pump liquid oxygen, that was also used to cool the combustion chamber.

    Rudel already in the 1956 edition of his book mentions that Hitler wanted him to drop an atomic bomb on the Ural hydro electric installations, in order to stop USSR tank production.
    Hitler therefore forbade him to fly any more, he was Germany's best pilot.
    Hans-Ulrich Rudel, ´Mein Kriegstagebuch, Aufzeichnungen eines Stukafliegers’, 1983, 2006 Dresden
    On the Prague airport two planes, that had been adapted to carry the hydrogen bomb, a sphere of about a metre in diameter, were ready.
    Villagers near the test site witnessed huge explosions.
    Secretaries saw prototypes.
    A physicist confirms that it is physically possible to cause hydrogen fusion with ordinary explosives.
    But the technique apparently is so difficult that just a few tests succeeded.

    But of course, without reading the book you know best.
    It is quite possible that Hitler fought on as long as possible in the hope that the bomb would become operational.

    Try to imagine what a few VII's dropping hydrogen bombs would do.

    When Hitler visited Peenemünde he said to Dornberger that he was one of the two men in Germany had to make apologies to.
    I long wondered who was the second
    Walter Dornberger, Peenemünde, Die Geschichte der V-Waffen, Esslingen 1981, 2003
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  45. @AaronB
    You make a good point, but your logic is off.

    Yes, we need to point out that Jewish behavior and attitudes have antecedents in European culture.

    The original "culture of critique" is surely the European Enlightenment, which criticized and undermed the traditional foundations of European culture more thoroughly and more effectively than Jews ever could have done, and it was all done by whites.

    However, just because whites began the process of undermining themselves does not mean that Jews have not extended and amplified this process, and subverted it for their own ends.

    So it's not an either/or kind of situation, you see. It's both. Whites have a pornigraphic tradition but Jews have now extended it, amplified it, and weaponized it. Europeans invented the culture of critique but Jews have amplified it and weaponized it.

    And you're right, McDonald's "group evolution theory" is fanciful and far fetched, but one doesn't have to subscribe to his genetic determinism to note that he has described Jewish traits and behavior with uncanny accuracy.

    Unlike Mcdonald, I attribute Jewish behavior to the almost unbearable psychological pressure created by a dysfunctional culture, but growing up among Jews, I can only marvel at his unerring ability to describe Jewish traits.

    You admit, in principle, the existence of racial animosity, and accuse many here of suffering from it. Yet you refuse to consider, even in principle, that Jews have racial animosity towards whites?

    That does not seem consistent, balanced, or fair.

    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don’t think you belong to that category). I’ll just write a summary of a summary (basically, a C/P) & for serious analyses- whoever is interested- point to Laqueur’s & Brustein’s works (there are tons of them, but this would have to suffice: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4E86242277746DA6E5587E4DF122BDD1 , http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E194C4F4F44E1146ACC4881034E0CDDC )

    I don’t want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I’ll go…

    1. you write as Jews are a separate, non-white “race”. In all likelihood, they are, phenotypically -not “people of color”. They’re, visually, Mediterranean types we can find in Greece, southern Italy etc. Of course, some Jewish racial nationalists will disagree: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/

    Well: a) not all Caucasians are white. You can be both Caucasian & non-white- for instance most Iranians and Arabs. b) Jews are a mixed bag & most of them look white. And now we come to the “social construct” element of race: those Jews who look white & identify with Western civilization will sign for white race/identity; on the other hand, nationalist, Judaist Jews who identify “whiteness” with their historical enemy, Europe, both pre-Christian (Greece & Rome) & Christian will opt for non-white MENA “race”.

    2. you conflate ancestry & identity. So, for instance, Karl Marx was not a Jew in his own eyes, only a person of Jewish ancestry. For his opponents like Bakunin and Duhring he was a “Jew” because they saw Jewishness as a genealogical stain, and therefore Marx could be a “Jew” without knowing anything of Jewish culture, either religious or secular, or possessing a sense of loyalty toward “real”, Judaistic Jews.That was label they put on him, not manifestation of his self-consciousness.
    Also, atheist Jews can claim Jewish identity (tribal secular culture), but I’m skeptical about Jewish converts to Christianity. Judaist Jews, generally, don’t consider them to be Jewish anymore. Cultural gap is too wide.

    And now summing up- I don’t see hyper-analysis of various areas would change much..

    Jews are an ethnic religion or religious culture. They are not a “race” (except in the 19th C sense), but they do have a non-negligible genetic homogeneity (apart from Ethiopian “Jews”, most Jews are Europeanized Middle Easterners).
    Theirs is a tribal ethnic religion, similar to Parsis or Sikhs: that’s why Ivanka Trump is not a Jewess, although she may think so. If a William Bond from Tuscaloosa converts to Sikhism, he won’t become a “Sikh” (although he may consider himself to be, similar to James Jesus Angleton’s progeny). Due to the tribalism, Jews remain something like a people (which is impossoble in universalist religions like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism).

    In past two centuries, European Jews – with Haredi & a few other exceptions- have
    assimilated into host societies: German, Russian, French, British, Austrian, Italian, Polish,..

    The highest level of assimilation had been achieved in pre- Hitler Germany where most German Jews had considered themselves to be Germans primarily, and Jews only
    secondarily. This can be seen from their high participation in all-German national efforts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenz%C3%A4hlung & high percentages of intermarriage, which fluctuated from 25% to 40% during 1920s.

    How it all ended, we know.

    American Jews, most of them, have their roots in Russian Empire (they’ve swamped earlier, more “European” German Jewish immigrants). They have retained their national culture (Yiddish, written in Hebrew script), numerous dietary laws & other customs. In short, US got mostly unassimilated ghetto Jews.

    Due to their work ethics, culture, slightly higher IQ & ethnic networking, they thrived in the US in various areas & became very influential. From early 1900s to, perhaps, Six Days War in 1967, most of them tried to assimilate & become virtually indistinguishable from WASPs.

    But then, things changed & many US Jews had recovered their primary ethnic-cultural identity as Jews first. Because this is a sensitive issue, there is no profusion of reliable sociological investigation data, graphs, categorizations. Just, as a rule of thumb, we can divide Jewish Americans into a few
    categories:

    1. JINOs. Many US “Jews” are assimilated & don’t think of themselves as Jews primarily. They account for anything between 20% and 50%.

    2. secular & religious Jews who possess partial Jewish identity, but for them it is blended with broader American loyalty. It is hard to tell how many people belong to this category.

    3. religious Orthodox Jews who may be annoying as neighbors, but are not too politically minded.

    4. the last segment would be American Jews (as different from Jewish Americans). They can be secular or religious; rich or poor; intensity of their commitment to Israel or Jewish ethnic activism may vary, but they are basically cultural aliens in US & Europe. For secularists, Auschwitz & Israel have replaced Torah & Talmud as chief emotional anticorrosives that shield them from assimilation.

    My guess is that they are somewhere between 15% and 25% of all US Jews. This segment can be further divided into subsegments (for instance, some are anti-Christian, while others are not). But, what is common to them is their clear differentiation from host national cultures, stubborn insistence on their ethnic-national individuality & a sense of being an “endangered species”. Some subsegments of this portion of American Jews are true aliens in the US & through their ethnic activism, frequently masked as moral universalism, try to subvert dominant cultural values & change host society into a shapeless mess.

    This is a minority of Jewish Americans, but they have economic, societal, cultural & political impact by far surpassing their numbers. And they seem not to learn from history: Brazilian Jews, because of slow but inevitable future collapse of multiracial Brazilian society are just trying to “get out”. Jewish elites, across the world, are still in thrall to Nazi-Aryan iconography & mythology as the central threat to their existence, while the world has moved past it long ago.

    In this, last portion of Jewish Americans one can find typical traits of cultural alienation, ethnic paranoia, “us” vs. “them” mentality, ..basically, a sense of being a perpetual stranger who wants to shape the dominant discourse & identity in order to avoid- in their eyes- future pogroms & genocide. Because in the fevered mind of pathological Jewish nationalists, Europeans & whites, virtually all of them, possess the inner Nazi screaming to get out & finally finalize the Final Solution. This is an illustration of such a mindset:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

    http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/nazism-and-christian-heritage

    It’s not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ….

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    Thanks for the reply - I'm enjoying this exchange between you and AaronB - hoping to glean more insights.

    Peace.
    , @German_reader
    That sounds quite plausible and nuanced. But in public discourse it would be regarded as just as antisemitic as Mr Joyce's theories (which with their view of Jews as a monolithic, eternally unchanging malign presence are indeed probably beyond reason).
    Btw, how do you expect Brazil to "collapse" and why?
    , @anonymous

    It’s not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ….
     
    Wrong! What the world should be most afraid of is the white psycho-necrophiliacs... you know, given this particular kind of people and their love for bloodletting.
    , @Oscar Peterson
    Again, BK, what does this have to do with the thesis of piece, i.e., that there is a systemic hypocrisy evidenced in the writings of these jew kidlit authors to the effect that they simultaneously work to subvert goy cultural traditions and reinforce jew cultural traditions?
    Whining about "conspiratorial anti-semites" is not only not to the point, it would seem to constitute another attempt to divert the discussion away from the point the author was making.
    , @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    and AaronB

    Good to see an attempt at reasoned discussion on a thread with nearly no hope of staying on rail.

    Bardon Kaldian your first reply was effective but your second reply doesn't work well. 80% of it, it's not clear what it's trying to do.
    Or to put it another way: it may as well be trying to tidy up a trash heap.

    The question of "Jewish" race, and "white" race and everything crossing over and in-between is hopelessly fraught. That's the reason why, on the occasion when an anti-Semitist makes a good point, it's still hopeless to go down the road he wishes to lead you as his solution is one founded on sand.

    Here is why:
    Indo-European can be: linguistic, or cultural or genetic
    Semitic can be: linguistic, or cultural or genetic

    Confusion reigns supreme because both Indo-European and Semitic can be phenotype "white" and no one can articulate a consensus rule for conflation or de-conflation. It is possible to be 100% linguistically Indo-European (speaks English), 100% culturally Indo-European (understands the history of Common Law, attends a Presbyterian Church, recognizes and celebrates Maundy Thursday, sends children to a school where they learn Latin and study the Aeneid), and perhaps 48% Indo-European genetically with a majority of autosomal genes coming from west Africa ... and be considerably more Indo-European than the next "white" person a stone's throw away.

    Now: account for all combinations and permutations by way of language, culture and genetics.

    What follows: the interminable intra-Jewish question of "who is a Jew?" and the parallel navel-gazing and reflection admiring by anti-Semitists of "what and who is white?"

    When so much more is at stake, "white" is to society and politics like sugar - pure, refined sugar - it's a concept that poses the same problems as the sweetener.

    The problem with sugar is that it overwhelms all other conditions - a person becomes so hooked on pure refined sugar that he cannot be troubled to learn the fine art of making delicatessen bread nor appreciate the benefits of tea. For him, it is all foods infused with refined sugar and soda pop.

    This is a weakness. Japanese and Koreans don't have this weakness, they sublimate the energy that is not sapped by this weakness to rise to a culture.

    There's a solution to nearly all of these problems that doesn't require anyone to worry so much about "Jews" - restore freedom of association, and buttress it with crypto-currency, i.e.: "you won't play by the rules, you are outside the system".

    Systems will work when built upon good culture, honor, common respect for rules, expulsion of those who abuse the rules (more subtle a fault than failing to follow them), and a rejection of double-standards.

    That will work. It really will. Create a Walled Garden. It's the only system that has ever worked. Make the mistake of creating it based on phenotype and you will find out quickly how many sociopaths and psychopaths present as "white" - your system will collapse like a late-stage Type-II diabetic. Base your system on behavior and provide the means and impetus to teach and spread and pass on the culture while embracing those who embrace the culture - then we may reverse this train.

    , @samizdat18
    "It’s not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it …."

    Are you calling Jews idiots? Do you think they aren't able to discern for themselves who they think their *true* enemy really is?

    You seem to attribute "ignorance" and "stupidity" to what most "anti-semites" would simply say is "malicious" - They know full well who their enemy is - that's why the childrens books feature young white couples, not young black or moslem couples.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS08cWZrlQA

    Why do you think in this video every character is "white" except for the black male who cucks the whimpy white guy? Why didn't they have all the women black (or moslem) and the "suave" guy white?

    Do you think that's an accident?
    , @Wally
    said:
    "finally finalize the Final Solution"

    Except the meaning of "Final Solution" as used by Germans was just as German officials openly stated, deportation.
    plus:
    "I owe my permission to submit the Zionist plan for the final solution of the Jewish Question."
    - 'Father of Zionism' Theodor Herzl, letter to the Czar, November 22, 1899.

    See the scientifically impossible 'holocaust' easily & thoroughly debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Jews have been promoting the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869:

    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg
    , @AaronB
    Ok, I don't see anything to object to in your comment. I substantially agree with it.

    Your comment, in my eyes, successfully challenges McDonald's theory of group evolutionary strategy, but I never saw McDonald's theory as anything other than a useful metaphor trying to make sense of a confusing set of facts, as all such neat tidy narratives inevitably are, and should be taken with a grain of salt.

    But you seem to agree that a substantial portion of self identified Jews defines themselves as being at war with white gentiles, whom they regard as ancestral enemies, and this dramatically affects their interactions with whites, both consciously and unconsciousl. As indeed, how could it not.

    Your opposition seems confined to the more radical claims of those you term conspiratorial anti-semites, who paint with too broad a brush, lack nuance, see in terms of "essences", etc.

    All of that makes a great deal of sense and I'm largely in agreement.

    Not being a genetic determinist myself, I don't subscribe to McDonald's theories. However, I do think he's performed a valuable service in providing a remarkably detailed and accurate analysis of the psychology of a significant portion of the Jewish population, and formulating a comprehensive theory that while lacking in nuance nevertheless provides a useful lens through which to view an elusive subject.

    So - your criticisms of him are correct, but he has value.

    Finally, I'd like to point out that your analysis of Jews presents their behavior as stemming from a sense of radical insecurity. While this is true, and generates a tremendous amount of psychic energy , the other side of the coin is the Jewish drive for supremacy and dominance, which is implicit in Jewish culture, and the envy and resentment they feel towards whites and Christians. Another factor that should not be ignored is Jewish cultures valorization of wealth and contempt for the poor man - and money leads to many a crime.

    But overall, your comment seems fair.

    , @Mr. Anon

    I don’t want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I’ll go…
     
    Followed by a couple of pages of...............something...........I don't know what, I didn't read it.

    You have pretty much demonstrated here, if not elsewhere, that it is pointless to discuss anything with you. You are either close-minded and/or deluded, or just a mendacious, ethnically self-interested bigot.
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  46. Wally says:
    @AaronB
    You make a good point, but your logic is off.

    Yes, we need to point out that Jewish behavior and attitudes have antecedents in European culture.

    The original "culture of critique" is surely the European Enlightenment, which criticized and undermed the traditional foundations of European culture more thoroughly and more effectively than Jews ever could have done, and it was all done by whites.

    However, just because whites began the process of undermining themselves does not mean that Jews have not extended and amplified this process, and subverted it for their own ends.

    So it's not an either/or kind of situation, you see. It's both. Whites have a pornigraphic tradition but Jews have now extended it, amplified it, and weaponized it. Europeans invented the culture of critique but Jews have amplified it and weaponized it.

    And you're right, McDonald's "group evolution theory" is fanciful and far fetched, but one doesn't have to subscribe to his genetic determinism to note that he has described Jewish traits and behavior with uncanny accuracy.

    Unlike Mcdonald, I attribute Jewish behavior to the almost unbearable psychological pressure created by a dysfunctional culture, but growing up among Jews, I can only marvel at his unerring ability to describe Jewish traits.

    You admit, in principle, the existence of racial animosity, and accuse many here of suffering from it. Yet you refuse to consider, even in principle, that Jews have racial animosity towards whites?

    That does not seem consistent, balanced, or fair.

    Except the ” European Enlightenment” was nothing like Jew propaganda.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  47. @Bardon Kaldian
    This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they're here to corrupt us.

    I can't say much about children literature, but Joyce's imagined connection of Jews with pornography is simply absurd. It seems that the author doesn't know much about European tradition of eroticism, orgiastic sexuality & "perversions". In this world-view, dirty middle-Eastern hooked nosed Semitic deviants are, following their "group evolutionary strategy" (which is as real as phlogiston or Nessie), perpetually trying to subvert our august morality.

    So then-what about Roman orgies? Did the author read Tacitus' "Annals", chapters on Tiberius, Nero,.. Or Suetonius ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Caesars )? Or, later authors like Pietro Aretino, John Cleland, Marquis de Sade (the king of all depravities),... up to pansexual maniac of heroic Victorian age, Richard Francis Burton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton ) & all the rest.

    Or prince Kropotkin's autobiography, where the father of anarchism writes on massive orgies among graduates of Russian military academy that would put to shame Mesopotamian & Babylonian sexual excesses.

    Or the fact that the most vigorous & promiscuous Hollyweirdos have always been "Aryans" (Clare Bow, Mae West, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable, Joan Crawford, Bette Davis,...up to Nicholson and Beatty).

    Of course there were (and are) pornographers & lechers among Jews (for instance, Felix Salten, the author of "Bambi"), but to pin down porn imagination & activity on Jews is just- preposterous.

    You really should read an article before commenting on it. I understand that this a long article. You need to read it anyway if you intend to express an opinion on it.

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  48. @Stewbumer
    Heather's Mommy is a lesbo.
    Lets call a spade a spade.

    I’m afraid it’s worse than that, Stew. Both of her mommies are lesbos.

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  49. Liza says:

    Just start your kids off – and keep them there – with good ol’ European fairy and folk tales. That’s all they need in the storybook category. My childhood home, 50+ years ago, had old fairy tale books on the shelves and I could not get enough of them as a preschooler. To this day I still have those books (tattered though they may be) and I still read them. The illustrations are fabulous and children are drawn to them.

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    Here's a fable which can be used to impart street smarts while delivering a political message of extraordinary contemporary relevance:


    The Bitch and Her Whelps

    A BITCH, ready to whelp, earnestly begged a shepherd for a place where she might litter. When her request was granted, she besought permission to rear her puppies in the same spot. The shepherd again consented. But at last the Bitch, protected by the bodyguard of her Whelps, who had now grown up and were able to defend themselves, asserted her exclusive right to the place and would not permit the shepherd to approach.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/aesop/aes262.htm

    , @anonymous
    Yes, the good ol' Europeans have always been great at fantasy writings.

    They evidently put that gift to much creative use to cook up their fantastical spiritual dogmas... with some fantabulous illustrations too.

    Now your children, all grown up, are showing signs of revulsion. Perhaps time to get those creative juices flowing again?

    If anybody can do it, it is the good ol' Europeans.
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  50. Allan says:
    @Liza
    Just start your kids off - and keep them there - with good ol' European fairy and folk tales. That's all they need in the storybook category. My childhood home, 50+ years ago, had old fairy tale books on the shelves and I could not get enough of them as a preschooler. To this day I still have those books (tattered though they may be) and I still read them. The illustrations are fabulous and children are drawn to them.

    Here’s a fable which can be used to impart street smarts while delivering a political message of extraordinary contemporary relevance:

    The Bitch and Her Whelps

    A BITCH, ready to whelp, earnestly begged a shepherd for a place where she might litter. When her request was granted, she besought permission to rear her puppies in the same spot. The shepherd again consented. But at last the Bitch, protected by the bodyguard of her Whelps, who had now grown up and were able to defend themselves, asserted her exclusive right to the place and would not permit the shepherd to approach.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/aesop/aes262.htm

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    Hi, Allan. There's various tales with that message, but thanks for passing that one along, as I was not familiar with it. Those sentences are chilling. So much in so few words.

    I have a book on that same theme Cry Wolf A Political Fable by Paul Lake. Except it's not a dog about to birth, but rather an injured deer wanting rest and sustenance on a farm of hardworking animals. This is a sort of modern version of Animal Farm and teenagers would certainly "get it" but it is good reading for all ages.
    , @Miro23

    The Bitch and Her Whelps

    A BITCH, ready to whelp, earnestly begged a shepherd for a place where she might litter. When her request was granted, she besought permission to rear her puppies in the same spot. The shepherd again consented. But at last the Bitch, protected by the bodyguard of her Whelps, who had now grown up and were able to defend themselves, asserted her exclusive right to the place and would not permit the shepherd to approach.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/aesop/aes262.htm
     
    The interest of the fable is that things didn't come to pass in the expected way.

    Rather than the Bitch and the Whelps becoming part of the family (integrating, cooperating and defending their new home ), they show pathological symptoms and attacked it.

    The fable works because it's about dogs, and the expectations that we have about dog development.

    If it had been about cuckoos , the fable would only have been of interest if the fledgling cuckoo had shared its life with the other chicks rather than tossing them out of the nest.

    There are different strategies at work here. Puppies have the best life chances through integrating, whereas cuckoo chicks have the best life chances through deception and parasitism. And, there's no ethical component, they're animals, and they're just following through with their optimal hard wired survival strategies.

    However, it's a dynamic balance. Pathologies among dogs can be identified, and the dog can be removed from the family. Equally, integrationist cuckoos may have a hard time with rejection, despite their best efforts at being good magpies - all in the nature of the natural world.

    It's true that humans have the luxury of being able to rationally (or socially) modify their genetic dispositions but most don't bother with it, so they've adopted the default natural system of different tribes living apart on their own well defined territories, which serves to minimalize conflict.

    The Jewish dilemma is that they have wanted to retain their identity without having the protection (until recently) of their own territory - resulting in the optimal survival strategies of either 1) ghettoization - living apart from the rest of society or 2) deception and parasitism to gain the benefits without the costs - and they have taken both routes.
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  51. @jilles dykstra
    A Turkish harem was not for orgies.
    If a girl there had sex once in the time she was there she was the exception.
    I suppose one can see harems as rich people now collect antique cars, and, of course, it was seen as an honour to have one's daughter in the harem.
    That they did not bore themselves to death there surprises me.
    Nevertheless, when there was the revolution, the Sultan removed, the harem girls were told they were free, they did not know where to go, or what to do.

    A Turkish harem was not for orgies.
    If a girl there had sex once in the time she was there she was the exception.

    Well certainly not orgies involving any male other than the Sultan.

    Harems are subject to the cruel laws of the Coolidge Effect. The over sated aging Sultan over time is rendered impotent unless he can be aroused by the presence of a new potential conquest.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect

    Psychologists have interviewed male porn performers/sex addicts and when asked what type of women it takes to arouse them, the answer is quite often “Simple, the NEXT ONE!!!” The presence of the next girl whether in the scene itself or at least standing by on set for a later scheduled scene is crucial for the male performer to obtain an erection.

    Read up on what Hugh Hefner, beginning in middle age, had to put himself through in order to function sexually. A new “bunny”/pornstar was crucial for Hefner along with drugs and vacuum devices to just get an erection just so he could then have sex with one of his regular “girlfriends”.

    Now, Hefner did hold orgies because especially as he aged he needed even higher status males in the form of Hollywood/music stars to continue to attract the young women to the Playboy Mansion. That is why stars over the years from Tony Curtis, James Caan, Warren Beatty, to Leonardo DiCaprio were frequent guests.

    With the the abundance of internet porn the Coolidge Effect can now take its toll on your average male. There are virgin teenage boys who now can not orgasm through vaginal intercourse with a willing steady girlfriend. These young men are facing deep despair.

    Meanwhile over time the elite alpha male addicted to Tinder may have to swipe past dozens of willing attractive hook ups to find a female with whom to have sex successfully.

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  52. Talha says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don't think you belong to that category). I'll just write a summary of a summary (basically, a C/P) & for serious analyses- whoever is interested- point to Laqueur's & Brustein's works (there are tons of them, but this would have to suffice: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4E86242277746DA6E5587E4DF122BDD1 , http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E194C4F4F44E1146ACC4881034E0CDDC )

    I don't want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I'll go...

    1. you write as Jews are a separate, non-white "race". In all likelihood, they are, phenotypically -not "people of color". They're, visually, Mediterranean types we can find in Greece, southern Italy etc. Of course, some Jewish racial nationalists will disagree: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/

    Well: a) not all Caucasians are white. You can be both Caucasian & non-white- for instance most Iranians and Arabs. b) Jews are a mixed bag & most of them look white. And now we come to the "social construct" element of race: those Jews who look white & identify with Western civilization will sign for white race/identity; on the other hand, nationalist, Judaist Jews who identify "whiteness" with their historical enemy, Europe, both pre-Christian (Greece & Rome) & Christian will opt for non-white MENA "race".

    2. you conflate ancestry & identity. So, for instance, Karl Marx was not a Jew in his own eyes, only a person of Jewish ancestry. For his opponents like Bakunin and Duhring he was a "Jew" because they saw Jewishness as a genealogical stain, and therefore Marx could be a "Jew" without knowing anything of Jewish culture, either religious or secular, or possessing a sense of loyalty toward "real", Judaistic Jews.That was label they put on him, not manifestation of his self-consciousness.
    Also, atheist Jews can claim Jewish identity (tribal secular culture), but I'm skeptical about Jewish converts to Christianity. Judaist Jews, generally, don't consider them to be Jewish anymore. Cultural gap is too wide.

    And now summing up- I don't see hyper-analysis of various areas would change much..

    Jews are an ethnic religion or religious culture. They are not a "race" (except in the 19th C sense), but they do have a non-negligible genetic homogeneity (apart from Ethiopian "Jews", most Jews are Europeanized Middle Easterners).
    Theirs is a tribal ethnic religion, similar to Parsis or Sikhs: that's why Ivanka Trump is not a Jewess, although she may think so. If a William Bond from Tuscaloosa converts to Sikhism, he won't become a "Sikh" (although he may consider himself to be, similar to James Jesus Angleton's progeny). Due to the tribalism, Jews remain something like a people (which is impossoble in universalist religions like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism).

    In past two centuries, European Jews - with Haredi & a few other exceptions- have
    assimilated into host societies: German, Russian, French, British, Austrian, Italian, Polish,..

    The highest level of assimilation had been achieved in pre- Hitler Germany where most German Jews had considered themselves to be Germans primarily, and Jews only
    secondarily. This can be seen from their high participation in all-German national efforts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenz%C3%A4hlung & high percentages of intermarriage, which fluctuated from 25% to 40% during 1920s.

    How it all ended, we know.

    American Jews, most of them, have their roots in Russian Empire (they've swamped earlier, more "European" German Jewish immigrants). They have retained their national culture (Yiddish, written in Hebrew script), numerous dietary laws & other customs. In short, US got mostly unassimilated ghetto Jews.

    Due to their work ethics, culture, slightly higher IQ & ethnic networking, they thrived in the US in various areas & became very influential. From early 1900s to, perhaps, Six Days War in 1967, most of them tried to assimilate & become virtually indistinguishable from WASPs.

    But then, things changed & many US Jews had recovered their primary ethnic-cultural identity as Jews first. Because this is a sensitive issue, there is no profusion of reliable sociological investigation data, graphs, categorizations. Just, as a rule of thumb, we can divide Jewish Americans into a few
    categories:

    1. JINOs. Many US "Jews" are assimilated & don't think of themselves as Jews primarily. They account for anything between 20% and 50%.

    2. secular & religious Jews who possess partial Jewish identity, but for them it is blended with broader American loyalty. It is hard to tell how many people belong to this category.

    3. religious Orthodox Jews who may be annoying as neighbors, but are not too politically minded.

    4. the last segment would be American Jews (as different from Jewish Americans). They can be secular or religious; rich or poor; intensity of their commitment to Israel or Jewish ethnic activism may vary, but they are basically cultural aliens in US & Europe. For secularists, Auschwitz & Israel have replaced Torah & Talmud as chief emotional anticorrosives that shield them from assimilation.

    My guess is that they are somewhere between 15% and 25% of all US Jews. This segment can be further divided into subsegments (for instance, some are anti-Christian, while others are not). But, what is common to them is their clear differentiation from host national cultures, stubborn insistence on their ethnic-national individuality & a sense of being an "endangered species". Some subsegments of this portion of American Jews are true aliens in the US & through their ethnic activism, frequently masked as moral universalism, try to subvert dominant cultural values & change host society into a shapeless mess.

    This is a minority of Jewish Americans, but they have economic, societal, cultural & political impact by far surpassing their numbers. And they seem not to learn from history: Brazilian Jews, because of slow but inevitable future collapse of multiracial Brazilian society are just trying to "get out". Jewish elites, across the world, are still in thrall to Nazi-Aryan iconography & mythology as the central threat to their existence, while the world has moved past it long ago.

    In this, last portion of Jewish Americans one can find typical traits of cultural alienation, ethnic paranoia, "us" vs. "them" mentality, ..basically, a sense of being a perpetual stranger who wants to shape the dominant discourse & identity in order to avoid- in their eyes- future pogroms & genocide. Because in the fevered mind of pathological Jewish nationalists, Europeans & whites, virtually all of them, possess the inner Nazi screaming to get out & finally finalize the Final Solution. This is an illustration of such a mindset:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

    http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/nazism-and-christian-heritage

    It's not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ....

    Thanks for the reply – I’m enjoying this exchange between you and AaronB – hoping to glean more insights.

    Peace.

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  53. Renoman says:

    If it helps these poor kids cope with living in a freak show what’s the harm? There will always be questionable circumstances but I can see many situations being worse, Daddy’s a wife beater, Mom’s a Junkie etc. In the long list of miseries having Gay parents seems pretty far down the list to me. Just let em be.

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    Guess you didn't actually read any of the article. It was not primarily a critique of "Two Mommies," though no doubt the author disapproves of the gay-parent apologetics. It was a critique of the hypocrisy of a jew who produces culturally subversive goykidlit while at the same time writing reinforcing, tradition-friendly jewkidlit.
    You missed the main point.
    , @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965
    As a resident of CA, I can assure you that gays use children with the intention of warping their views and beliefs as a means of carrying their perverse mission to multiply into the future.

    It is normal practice for homosexuals in CA to strive to raise children who are full-fledged sexual degenerates themselves by the time they graduate middle school. They are often very heavy drug abusers as well. Lots of ecstasy, cocaine and mollys among their perversely nurtured children. Of course that's not entirely uncommon among children with proper parents either, this is CA after all. The kids raise themselves here more than anything.

    Children are simply a right of passage for homosexuals. They revel in the very idea of taking normal children and warping them to be the next generation of little bisexuals and homosexuals.

    The lesbians especially are fanatical about getting their hands on children. And it absolutely is child abuse. Right down to their support of making TV shows out of little kids being given hormone therapy, as we see in that "I am Jazz" show, or w/e it's called.
    , @anarchyst
    Children in homosexual households are starting to speak out that "something was missing" in their lives--a heterosexual parent of the opposite sex. Of course, the homosexual movement will attempt to stamp out any truth about their deviant behavior resulting from their sordid lifestyle, just as they are successfully doing, making "conversion therapy" illegal in a number of states.
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  54. @Bardon Kaldian
    This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they're here to corrupt us.

    I can't say much about children literature, but Joyce's imagined connection of Jews with pornography is simply absurd. It seems that the author doesn't know much about European tradition of eroticism, orgiastic sexuality & "perversions". In this world-view, dirty middle-Eastern hooked nosed Semitic deviants are, following their "group evolutionary strategy" (which is as real as phlogiston or Nessie), perpetually trying to subvert our august morality.

    So then-what about Roman orgies? Did the author read Tacitus' "Annals", chapters on Tiberius, Nero,.. Or Suetonius ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Caesars )? Or, later authors like Pietro Aretino, John Cleland, Marquis de Sade (the king of all depravities),... up to pansexual maniac of heroic Victorian age, Richard Francis Burton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton ) & all the rest.

    Or prince Kropotkin's autobiography, where the father of anarchism writes on massive orgies among graduates of Russian military academy that would put to shame Mesopotamian & Babylonian sexual excesses.

    Or the fact that the most vigorous & promiscuous Hollyweirdos have always been "Aryans" (Clare Bow, Mae West, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable, Joan Crawford, Bette Davis,...up to Nicholson and Beatty).

    Of course there were (and are) pornographers & lechers among Jews (for instance, Felix Salten, the author of "Bambi"), but to pin down porn imagination & activity on Jews is just- preposterous.

    So your snobbish rant disproved what in this article?

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    So your snobbish rant disproved what in this article?
     
    Bardon made a case and it's a decent one, albeit I do not share some of his views, which is not crucial for a discussion. A case in point--a complete (and catastrophic) submitting of US foreign policy to Israel's interests wouldn't be possible without Christian Zionism in the US. Guess what, those people count themselves "Christian". The fact that US Jews in the so called "intellectual" (there is nothing really intellectual there, but still) field in the US rode "this" Old Testament vehicle to the top of a political, academic and "intellectual" power and influence testifies not only to their sinister agenda, and some of it is sinister, but opens the issue of, both willful and not, collaboration of people who are manifestly non-Jewish in any sense and even count themselves as 100% USDA approved Americans in contributing greatly to the American demise. This is just one example. So, who's "guilty" more? Jews or those who worship them and Israel? Did they become inseparable? I think they did, but I could be wrong.
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  55. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Liza
    Just start your kids off - and keep them there - with good ol' European fairy and folk tales. That's all they need in the storybook category. My childhood home, 50+ years ago, had old fairy tale books on the shelves and I could not get enough of them as a preschooler. To this day I still have those books (tattered though they may be) and I still read them. The illustrations are fabulous and children are drawn to them.

    Yes, the good ol’ Europeans have always been great at fantasy writings.

    They evidently put that gift to much creative use to cook up their fantastical spiritual dogmas… with some fantabulous illustrations too.

    Now your children, all grown up, are showing signs of revulsion. Perhaps time to get those creative juices flowing again?

    If anybody can do it, it is the good ol’ Europeans.

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    And yet, I'll hazard a guess, you live in some 'good ol' European' society, exploiting goys/white boys to the nth degree. Or do you really live in Israel or Africa? Nice psychological insight of who's running the show in America and Europe now, J bag.
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  56. @Bardon Kaldian
    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don't think you belong to that category). I'll just write a summary of a summary (basically, a C/P) & for serious analyses- whoever is interested- point to Laqueur's & Brustein's works (there are tons of them, but this would have to suffice: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4E86242277746DA6E5587E4DF122BDD1 , http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E194C4F4F44E1146ACC4881034E0CDDC )

    I don't want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I'll go...

    1. you write as Jews are a separate, non-white "race". In all likelihood, they are, phenotypically -not "people of color". They're, visually, Mediterranean types we can find in Greece, southern Italy etc. Of course, some Jewish racial nationalists will disagree: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/

    Well: a) not all Caucasians are white. You can be both Caucasian & non-white- for instance most Iranians and Arabs. b) Jews are a mixed bag & most of them look white. And now we come to the "social construct" element of race: those Jews who look white & identify with Western civilization will sign for white race/identity; on the other hand, nationalist, Judaist Jews who identify "whiteness" with their historical enemy, Europe, both pre-Christian (Greece & Rome) & Christian will opt for non-white MENA "race".

    2. you conflate ancestry & identity. So, for instance, Karl Marx was not a Jew in his own eyes, only a person of Jewish ancestry. For his opponents like Bakunin and Duhring he was a "Jew" because they saw Jewishness as a genealogical stain, and therefore Marx could be a "Jew" without knowing anything of Jewish culture, either religious or secular, or possessing a sense of loyalty toward "real", Judaistic Jews.That was label they put on him, not manifestation of his self-consciousness.
    Also, atheist Jews can claim Jewish identity (tribal secular culture), but I'm skeptical about Jewish converts to Christianity. Judaist Jews, generally, don't consider them to be Jewish anymore. Cultural gap is too wide.

    And now summing up- I don't see hyper-analysis of various areas would change much..

    Jews are an ethnic religion or religious culture. They are not a "race" (except in the 19th C sense), but they do have a non-negligible genetic homogeneity (apart from Ethiopian "Jews", most Jews are Europeanized Middle Easterners).
    Theirs is a tribal ethnic religion, similar to Parsis or Sikhs: that's why Ivanka Trump is not a Jewess, although she may think so. If a William Bond from Tuscaloosa converts to Sikhism, he won't become a "Sikh" (although he may consider himself to be, similar to James Jesus Angleton's progeny). Due to the tribalism, Jews remain something like a people (which is impossoble in universalist religions like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism).

    In past two centuries, European Jews - with Haredi & a few other exceptions- have
    assimilated into host societies: German, Russian, French, British, Austrian, Italian, Polish,..

    The highest level of assimilation had been achieved in pre- Hitler Germany where most German Jews had considered themselves to be Germans primarily, and Jews only
    secondarily. This can be seen from their high participation in all-German national efforts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenz%C3%A4hlung & high percentages of intermarriage, which fluctuated from 25% to 40% during 1920s.

    How it all ended, we know.

    American Jews, most of them, have their roots in Russian Empire (they've swamped earlier, more "European" German Jewish immigrants). They have retained their national culture (Yiddish, written in Hebrew script), numerous dietary laws & other customs. In short, US got mostly unassimilated ghetto Jews.

    Due to their work ethics, culture, slightly higher IQ & ethnic networking, they thrived in the US in various areas & became very influential. From early 1900s to, perhaps, Six Days War in 1967, most of them tried to assimilate & become virtually indistinguishable from WASPs.

    But then, things changed & many US Jews had recovered their primary ethnic-cultural identity as Jews first. Because this is a sensitive issue, there is no profusion of reliable sociological investigation data, graphs, categorizations. Just, as a rule of thumb, we can divide Jewish Americans into a few
    categories:

    1. JINOs. Many US "Jews" are assimilated & don't think of themselves as Jews primarily. They account for anything between 20% and 50%.

    2. secular & religious Jews who possess partial Jewish identity, but for them it is blended with broader American loyalty. It is hard to tell how many people belong to this category.

    3. religious Orthodox Jews who may be annoying as neighbors, but are not too politically minded.

    4. the last segment would be American Jews (as different from Jewish Americans). They can be secular or religious; rich or poor; intensity of their commitment to Israel or Jewish ethnic activism may vary, but they are basically cultural aliens in US & Europe. For secularists, Auschwitz & Israel have replaced Torah & Talmud as chief emotional anticorrosives that shield them from assimilation.

    My guess is that they are somewhere between 15% and 25% of all US Jews. This segment can be further divided into subsegments (for instance, some are anti-Christian, while others are not). But, what is common to them is their clear differentiation from host national cultures, stubborn insistence on their ethnic-national individuality & a sense of being an "endangered species". Some subsegments of this portion of American Jews are true aliens in the US & through their ethnic activism, frequently masked as moral universalism, try to subvert dominant cultural values & change host society into a shapeless mess.

    This is a minority of Jewish Americans, but they have economic, societal, cultural & political impact by far surpassing their numbers. And they seem not to learn from history: Brazilian Jews, because of slow but inevitable future collapse of multiracial Brazilian society are just trying to "get out". Jewish elites, across the world, are still in thrall to Nazi-Aryan iconography & mythology as the central threat to their existence, while the world has moved past it long ago.

    In this, last portion of Jewish Americans one can find typical traits of cultural alienation, ethnic paranoia, "us" vs. "them" mentality, ..basically, a sense of being a perpetual stranger who wants to shape the dominant discourse & identity in order to avoid- in their eyes- future pogroms & genocide. Because in the fevered mind of pathological Jewish nationalists, Europeans & whites, virtually all of them, possess the inner Nazi screaming to get out & finally finalize the Final Solution. This is an illustration of such a mindset:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

    http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/nazism-and-christian-heritage

    It's not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ....

    That sounds quite plausible and nuanced. But in public discourse it would be regarded as just as antisemitic as Mr Joyce’s theories (which with their view of Jews as a monolithic, eternally unchanging malign presence are indeed probably beyond reason).
    Btw, how do you expect Brazil to “collapse” and why?

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    It is not antisemitic in any reasonable sense of the word (ignoring loony Jewish snowflakes), because:

    a) essentialist antisemites see Jews as an alien & unassimilable "race", inimical to the West by default (I am not talking about Arab-Islamic world, because the term "antisemitism" does not apply to Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is simply clash of two nationalisms). Empirical data don't bear them out: high levels of Jewish intermarriage with non-Jews (in Weimar Germany 25%-40%, in contemporary Russia perhaps 80%), their cultural assimilation to host societies & their contribution to adopted countries seem to corroborate Einstein's claim: If it were not for antisemitism, Jews would have dispersed like leaves in the wind.

    So, antisemitic world-view is a rigid dogma which cannot, due to emotional investment of an antisemite, be challenged in the real world.

    b) conspiratorial antisemites see them as an incredibly powerful monolithic bloc, something that also defies reason. Jews are one of those "great little nations", one which has acquired influence, prosperity & power on the wings of German cultural dominance from early 19th C on, and later in the US (mostly after WW II, if we exclude Hollywood). They have been very creative & influential in past, say, 150 years. But, so have been other ethnicities, in various fields & different periods. Life goes up & down. Conspiracy minded people attribute to Jews many historical & cultural currents/events where they'd been present, but were not the decisive factor: Communist revolution in Russian empire 1917; control of "international banking" (influential-yes, controlling-no); subversion of dominant morality through counter-culture of the 60s (nobody "planned" that); then, Frankfurt school myth (virtually all who write about so called Cultural Marxism do not know what this school of thought was about).

    c) diabolical antisemitism sees Jews as a kind of cancer, or non-human colony of parasitic swarm which will suck out life from the host-victim & move on, leaving a carcass. They are, according to this world-view, incarnation of Ahriman/Satan.

    Needless to say, I disagree with all these ideas. First, I don't consider Jewish people of Jewish ancestry, but not identity (Marx was a German of Jewish extraction & not a Jew); I don't see them as a monolithic body; I don't see them as negatively predisposed toward the West- on the contrary, most Jews (not just French, Italians, ..of (wholly or partially) Jewish ancestry) are productive & valuable citizens, and they do not conspire to overthrow the Western civilization (or Christianity); US neo-conservative imperialist adventures were not "engineered" by "Jews"-anyone with a minimum amount of brain cells cannot seriously think that Cheney or Rumsfeld were puppets of some Jewish conspiracy.

    It is true that a part of them- I'd say 10-20% are Jewish nationalists & actually foreigners in countries where they reside- but, they do not "rule" anywhere in the world. They don't rule in any European country; nor in China, nor in India; nor in Japan; nor in Russia; nor, for that matter, in the USA.

    As for Brazil- how can a country where blacks tend to rise well over 50% & where PC discourse is gaining foot, avoid collapse in a foreseeable future?
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  57. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don't think you belong to that category). I'll just write a summary of a summary (basically, a C/P) & for serious analyses- whoever is interested- point to Laqueur's & Brustein's works (there are tons of them, but this would have to suffice: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4E86242277746DA6E5587E4DF122BDD1 , http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E194C4F4F44E1146ACC4881034E0CDDC )

    I don't want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I'll go...

    1. you write as Jews are a separate, non-white "race". In all likelihood, they are, phenotypically -not "people of color". They're, visually, Mediterranean types we can find in Greece, southern Italy etc. Of course, some Jewish racial nationalists will disagree: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/

    Well: a) not all Caucasians are white. You can be both Caucasian & non-white- for instance most Iranians and Arabs. b) Jews are a mixed bag & most of them look white. And now we come to the "social construct" element of race: those Jews who look white & identify with Western civilization will sign for white race/identity; on the other hand, nationalist, Judaist Jews who identify "whiteness" with their historical enemy, Europe, both pre-Christian (Greece & Rome) & Christian will opt for non-white MENA "race".

    2. you conflate ancestry & identity. So, for instance, Karl Marx was not a Jew in his own eyes, only a person of Jewish ancestry. For his opponents like Bakunin and Duhring he was a "Jew" because they saw Jewishness as a genealogical stain, and therefore Marx could be a "Jew" without knowing anything of Jewish culture, either religious or secular, or possessing a sense of loyalty toward "real", Judaistic Jews.That was label they put on him, not manifestation of his self-consciousness.
    Also, atheist Jews can claim Jewish identity (tribal secular culture), but I'm skeptical about Jewish converts to Christianity. Judaist Jews, generally, don't consider them to be Jewish anymore. Cultural gap is too wide.

    And now summing up- I don't see hyper-analysis of various areas would change much..

    Jews are an ethnic religion or religious culture. They are not a "race" (except in the 19th C sense), but they do have a non-negligible genetic homogeneity (apart from Ethiopian "Jews", most Jews are Europeanized Middle Easterners).
    Theirs is a tribal ethnic religion, similar to Parsis or Sikhs: that's why Ivanka Trump is not a Jewess, although she may think so. If a William Bond from Tuscaloosa converts to Sikhism, he won't become a "Sikh" (although he may consider himself to be, similar to James Jesus Angleton's progeny). Due to the tribalism, Jews remain something like a people (which is impossoble in universalist religions like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism).

    In past two centuries, European Jews - with Haredi & a few other exceptions- have
    assimilated into host societies: German, Russian, French, British, Austrian, Italian, Polish,..

    The highest level of assimilation had been achieved in pre- Hitler Germany where most German Jews had considered themselves to be Germans primarily, and Jews only
    secondarily. This can be seen from their high participation in all-German national efforts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenz%C3%A4hlung & high percentages of intermarriage, which fluctuated from 25% to 40% during 1920s.

    How it all ended, we know.

    American Jews, most of them, have their roots in Russian Empire (they've swamped earlier, more "European" German Jewish immigrants). They have retained their national culture (Yiddish, written in Hebrew script), numerous dietary laws & other customs. In short, US got mostly unassimilated ghetto Jews.

    Due to their work ethics, culture, slightly higher IQ & ethnic networking, they thrived in the US in various areas & became very influential. From early 1900s to, perhaps, Six Days War in 1967, most of them tried to assimilate & become virtually indistinguishable from WASPs.

    But then, things changed & many US Jews had recovered their primary ethnic-cultural identity as Jews first. Because this is a sensitive issue, there is no profusion of reliable sociological investigation data, graphs, categorizations. Just, as a rule of thumb, we can divide Jewish Americans into a few
    categories:

    1. JINOs. Many US "Jews" are assimilated & don't think of themselves as Jews primarily. They account for anything between 20% and 50%.

    2. secular & religious Jews who possess partial Jewish identity, but for them it is blended with broader American loyalty. It is hard to tell how many people belong to this category.

    3. religious Orthodox Jews who may be annoying as neighbors, but are not too politically minded.

    4. the last segment would be American Jews (as different from Jewish Americans). They can be secular or religious; rich or poor; intensity of their commitment to Israel or Jewish ethnic activism may vary, but they are basically cultural aliens in US & Europe. For secularists, Auschwitz & Israel have replaced Torah & Talmud as chief emotional anticorrosives that shield them from assimilation.

    My guess is that they are somewhere between 15% and 25% of all US Jews. This segment can be further divided into subsegments (for instance, some are anti-Christian, while others are not). But, what is common to them is their clear differentiation from host national cultures, stubborn insistence on their ethnic-national individuality & a sense of being an "endangered species". Some subsegments of this portion of American Jews are true aliens in the US & through their ethnic activism, frequently masked as moral universalism, try to subvert dominant cultural values & change host society into a shapeless mess.

    This is a minority of Jewish Americans, but they have economic, societal, cultural & political impact by far surpassing their numbers. And they seem not to learn from history: Brazilian Jews, because of slow but inevitable future collapse of multiracial Brazilian society are just trying to "get out". Jewish elites, across the world, are still in thrall to Nazi-Aryan iconography & mythology as the central threat to their existence, while the world has moved past it long ago.

    In this, last portion of Jewish Americans one can find typical traits of cultural alienation, ethnic paranoia, "us" vs. "them" mentality, ..basically, a sense of being a perpetual stranger who wants to shape the dominant discourse & identity in order to avoid- in their eyes- future pogroms & genocide. Because in the fevered mind of pathological Jewish nationalists, Europeans & whites, virtually all of them, possess the inner Nazi screaming to get out & finally finalize the Final Solution. This is an illustration of such a mindset:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

    http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/nazism-and-christian-heritage

    It's not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ....

    It’s not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ….

    Wrong! What the world should be most afraid of is the white psycho-necrophiliacs… you know, given this particular kind of people and their love for bloodletting.

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    You're really tough to figure out, is he black, is he Jew, is he black, is he Jew?
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  58. biz says:
    @Oscar Peterson
    The point is, biz, why is the same two-mommy stuff not being produced in the jewkidlit as well as the goykidlit that these shlockmeisters are generating?

    I just did a google search for “Jewish LGBT children’s books” and came up with many examples of children’s books with gay themes for the Jewish community.

    It would be less embarrassing if the people who comment here would make some minimal attempt to see if what they assert were true.

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    'It would be less embarrassing if the people who comment here would make some minimal attempt to see if what they assert were true.'

    Of course there's no conspiracy. It's simply a COINCIDENCE that very SUDDENLY everything out there, whether in published children's or adult books, or any of the media--tv, newspapers, magazines, online blogs and sites, 'alternative' media, movies, music, etc--plus EVERYTHING taught at EVERY lower and higher learning institution, even including Catholic ones, most visibly Notre Dame, and including the exact same mind control tools throughout the British Isles and Europe...yes, it's all just a funny coincidence that they are FOREVER IN LOCK STEP, FOREVER AND EVER ON MESSAGE.
    But you'd need both unprejudiced eyes, an open and unindoctrinated mind, morals and a sense of justice and a longing for truth, to have any hope of figuring any of this out.
    It is positively EVERYWHERE you look around you, you cannot in any way avoid it. Yet you incredulously ask that one make a 'minimal attempt to see' if any of their basic observations and thoughful comments were true.

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  59. @Bardon Kaldian
    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don't think you belong to that category). I'll just write a summary of a summary (basically, a C/P) & for serious analyses- whoever is interested- point to Laqueur's & Brustein's works (there are tons of them, but this would have to suffice: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4E86242277746DA6E5587E4DF122BDD1 , http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E194C4F4F44E1146ACC4881034E0CDDC )

    I don't want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I'll go...

    1. you write as Jews are a separate, non-white "race". In all likelihood, they are, phenotypically -not "people of color". They're, visually, Mediterranean types we can find in Greece, southern Italy etc. Of course, some Jewish racial nationalists will disagree: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/

    Well: a) not all Caucasians are white. You can be both Caucasian & non-white- for instance most Iranians and Arabs. b) Jews are a mixed bag & most of them look white. And now we come to the "social construct" element of race: those Jews who look white & identify with Western civilization will sign for white race/identity; on the other hand, nationalist, Judaist Jews who identify "whiteness" with their historical enemy, Europe, both pre-Christian (Greece & Rome) & Christian will opt for non-white MENA "race".

    2. you conflate ancestry & identity. So, for instance, Karl Marx was not a Jew in his own eyes, only a person of Jewish ancestry. For his opponents like Bakunin and Duhring he was a "Jew" because they saw Jewishness as a genealogical stain, and therefore Marx could be a "Jew" without knowing anything of Jewish culture, either religious or secular, or possessing a sense of loyalty toward "real", Judaistic Jews.That was label they put on him, not manifestation of his self-consciousness.
    Also, atheist Jews can claim Jewish identity (tribal secular culture), but I'm skeptical about Jewish converts to Christianity. Judaist Jews, generally, don't consider them to be Jewish anymore. Cultural gap is too wide.

    And now summing up- I don't see hyper-analysis of various areas would change much..

    Jews are an ethnic religion or religious culture. They are not a "race" (except in the 19th C sense), but they do have a non-negligible genetic homogeneity (apart from Ethiopian "Jews", most Jews are Europeanized Middle Easterners).
    Theirs is a tribal ethnic religion, similar to Parsis or Sikhs: that's why Ivanka Trump is not a Jewess, although she may think so. If a William Bond from Tuscaloosa converts to Sikhism, he won't become a "Sikh" (although he may consider himself to be, similar to James Jesus Angleton's progeny). Due to the tribalism, Jews remain something like a people (which is impossoble in universalist religions like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism).

    In past two centuries, European Jews - with Haredi & a few other exceptions- have
    assimilated into host societies: German, Russian, French, British, Austrian, Italian, Polish,..

    The highest level of assimilation had been achieved in pre- Hitler Germany where most German Jews had considered themselves to be Germans primarily, and Jews only
    secondarily. This can be seen from their high participation in all-German national efforts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenz%C3%A4hlung & high percentages of intermarriage, which fluctuated from 25% to 40% during 1920s.

    How it all ended, we know.

    American Jews, most of them, have their roots in Russian Empire (they've swamped earlier, more "European" German Jewish immigrants). They have retained their national culture (Yiddish, written in Hebrew script), numerous dietary laws & other customs. In short, US got mostly unassimilated ghetto Jews.

    Due to their work ethics, culture, slightly higher IQ & ethnic networking, they thrived in the US in various areas & became very influential. From early 1900s to, perhaps, Six Days War in 1967, most of them tried to assimilate & become virtually indistinguishable from WASPs.

    But then, things changed & many US Jews had recovered their primary ethnic-cultural identity as Jews first. Because this is a sensitive issue, there is no profusion of reliable sociological investigation data, graphs, categorizations. Just, as a rule of thumb, we can divide Jewish Americans into a few
    categories:

    1. JINOs. Many US "Jews" are assimilated & don't think of themselves as Jews primarily. They account for anything between 20% and 50%.

    2. secular & religious Jews who possess partial Jewish identity, but for them it is blended with broader American loyalty. It is hard to tell how many people belong to this category.

    3. religious Orthodox Jews who may be annoying as neighbors, but are not too politically minded.

    4. the last segment would be American Jews (as different from Jewish Americans). They can be secular or religious; rich or poor; intensity of their commitment to Israel or Jewish ethnic activism may vary, but they are basically cultural aliens in US & Europe. For secularists, Auschwitz & Israel have replaced Torah & Talmud as chief emotional anticorrosives that shield them from assimilation.

    My guess is that they are somewhere between 15% and 25% of all US Jews. This segment can be further divided into subsegments (for instance, some are anti-Christian, while others are not). But, what is common to them is their clear differentiation from host national cultures, stubborn insistence on their ethnic-national individuality & a sense of being an "endangered species". Some subsegments of this portion of American Jews are true aliens in the US & through their ethnic activism, frequently masked as moral universalism, try to subvert dominant cultural values & change host society into a shapeless mess.

    This is a minority of Jewish Americans, but they have economic, societal, cultural & political impact by far surpassing their numbers. And they seem not to learn from history: Brazilian Jews, because of slow but inevitable future collapse of multiracial Brazilian society are just trying to "get out". Jewish elites, across the world, are still in thrall to Nazi-Aryan iconography & mythology as the central threat to their existence, while the world has moved past it long ago.

    In this, last portion of Jewish Americans one can find typical traits of cultural alienation, ethnic paranoia, "us" vs. "them" mentality, ..basically, a sense of being a perpetual stranger who wants to shape the dominant discourse & identity in order to avoid- in their eyes- future pogroms & genocide. Because in the fevered mind of pathological Jewish nationalists, Europeans & whites, virtually all of them, possess the inner Nazi screaming to get out & finally finalize the Final Solution. This is an illustration of such a mindset:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

    http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/nazism-and-christian-heritage

    It's not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ....

    Again, BK, what does this have to do with the thesis of piece, i.e., that there is a systemic hypocrisy evidenced in the writings of these jew kidlit authors to the effect that they simultaneously work to subvert goy cultural traditions and reinforce jew cultural traditions?
    Whining about “conspiratorial anti-semites” is not only not to the point, it would seem to constitute another attempt to divert the discussion away from the point the author was making.

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    Good points

    There's certainly nothing wrong with being 'antisemitic'.

    antisemitic:
    any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like

    www.codoh.com

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  60. Just read your kids “Fable of the Ducks and the Hens: A Dramatic Saga of Intrigue, Propaganda and Subversion” by George Lincoln Rockwell.

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  61. @Renoman
    If it helps these poor kids cope with living in a freak show what's the harm? There will always be questionable circumstances but I can see many situations being worse, Daddy's a wife beater, Mom's a Junkie etc. In the long list of miseries having Gay parents seems pretty far down the list to me. Just let em be.

    Guess you didn’t actually read any of the article. It was not primarily a critique of “Two Mommies,” though no doubt the author disapproves of the gay-parent apologetics. It was a critique of the hypocrisy of a jew who produces culturally subversive goykidlit while at the same time writing reinforcing, tradition-friendly jewkidlit.
    You missed the main point.

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  62. @Bardon Kaldian
    This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they're here to corrupt us.

    I can't say much about children literature, but Joyce's imagined connection of Jews with pornography is simply absurd. It seems that the author doesn't know much about European tradition of eroticism, orgiastic sexuality & "perversions". In this world-view, dirty middle-Eastern hooked nosed Semitic deviants are, following their "group evolutionary strategy" (which is as real as phlogiston or Nessie), perpetually trying to subvert our august morality.

    So then-what about Roman orgies? Did the author read Tacitus' "Annals", chapters on Tiberius, Nero,.. Or Suetonius ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Caesars )? Or, later authors like Pietro Aretino, John Cleland, Marquis de Sade (the king of all depravities),... up to pansexual maniac of heroic Victorian age, Richard Francis Burton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton ) & all the rest.

    Or prince Kropotkin's autobiography, where the father of anarchism writes on massive orgies among graduates of Russian military academy that would put to shame Mesopotamian & Babylonian sexual excesses.

    Or the fact that the most vigorous & promiscuous Hollyweirdos have always been "Aryans" (Clare Bow, Mae West, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable, Joan Crawford, Bette Davis,...up to Nicholson and Beatty).

    Of course there were (and are) pornographers & lechers among Jews (for instance, Felix Salten, the author of "Bambi"), but to pin down porn imagination & activity on Jews is just- preposterous.

    We all know about sanctity of profit. We all know that sanctity of profit is unassailable.
    So Jews in porn industry making profit cannot be a questioned.

    But this is a special case. In this case it is expected that that it is a parent who suppose to buy this book.
    This kind of book would be purchased by lesbian or gay people. This fact is indicating that profit from this book would be very low and even questionable. So who would write this kind book and who would print this book, when it is a risky enterprise.
    This fact undoubtedly indicates that there is a political value behind this enterprise.
    I did read the article in flight mode so I do not know if school boards are pushing this propaganda on the schools, or not. But distribution of this kind of books and ideas by any other means than legal purchases must be illegal

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  63. @Mike Garrett
    In this discussion we rarely see the religious Jews and secular Jews treated as the very different groups that they are. The Jewish religious community uses their ancient laws as rules to live by, and with them they have maintained their community over many centuries. Their rebellious children who are atheists on the other hand use their people's literacy as a weapon. The secular Jews use the Bible as a template, a manual on human temptations, which they can use to tempt their enemies, ie the societies in which they are living as a minority. A majority of the citizens of Israel will openly tell you "I do not believe in God, Judaism is my race." They are secular Jews.

    It is not believing Jews, obeying Jews, real Jews who are doing this with children's literature and American culture in general. It is a gang of pseudo-Jewish Khazars with very little genetic link to any Semitic genes. These people with racist attitudes more severe than anything you will encounter among American Southerners run Hollywood and the media. They drive the whole feminist agenda. Just as the modern world owes it Communism and its atomic weapons totally to secular Jews, its feminism is their creation. They sell their enemies values proven to destroy and undermine any people so recently literate as to not know better.

    Yes, differences between subgroups of Jews do exist, but one shouldn’t exaggerate them. Given that the secular conquest and ongoing elimination of the Palestinians as a people is simply a modern version of the religiously originated narrative of the extermination of the Canaanites because God allegedly wanted the Jews (Israelites) to possess their land, it’s important to note how much in common, below the surface level, Jews have had and still have. All this “Jews-are-way-too-diverse-to make-generalizations-about” schlock is usually deeply dishonest.

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    Yes, the Jews did believe that it was their right to take the land and exterminate the Canaanites, but nobody remembers the rest of their instructions. They were told by Moses to destroy the cities in the land and never ever to build another, and never to make for themselves a king. Moses wanted them to keep to their tribes, their flocks, and to live in small villages, if not tents. They were only able to take that land at that time, because it was the end of the Late Bronze age and all of the civilised world was crashing, all the empires and nations had collapsed. When the Egyptians, Babylonians and Persians got back on their feet new empires would make quick work of the little land of Israel if they competed as a conventional nation. No, they needed to keep their families and tribes and flocks strong by staying away from urban life, so they would never be dependent upon foreign economies and usury bubbles for their daily food. They could then survive the ups and downs and continue as a people for millennia.

    For todays Jews to pretend their course is following Biblical precedents is to cherry-pick the Bible. To say that they were told to go in and build a conventional nation with cities like Tel Aviv is total baloney; they were given strict orders never to live in cities. That is why they are today such an urban people. They get by with it because the gentiles, who have only been readying at all for a few centuries, hardly bother to read at all, and certainly not well enough to come to serious terms with anything as complex as reading the Old Testament in Hebrew. And, let's be frank. The whole democracy fetish that so captivates Europeans is basically implying that Moses was a crank to give the people laws based on ancient literate knowledge, when real truth is "self-evident," best known by polling everyone. The contradiction between following ideas based on trial and error in there real world as recorded by long-standing literary traditions on the one hand and neo-Viking notions of voting on every belief and course of action -- these are miles apart yet the Americans and Europeans have pretended in recent centuries that they follow both at the same time.

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  64. @Renoman
    If it helps these poor kids cope with living in a freak show what's the harm? There will always be questionable circumstances but I can see many situations being worse, Daddy's a wife beater, Mom's a Junkie etc. In the long list of miseries having Gay parents seems pretty far down the list to me. Just let em be.

    As a resident of CA, I can assure you that gays use children with the intention of warping their views and beliefs as a means of carrying their perverse mission to multiply into the future.

    It is normal practice for homosexuals in CA to strive to raise children who are full-fledged sexual degenerates themselves by the time they graduate middle school. They are often very heavy drug abusers as well. Lots of ecstasy, cocaine and mollys among their perversely nurtured children. Of course that’s not entirely uncommon among children with proper parents either, this is CA after all. The kids raise themselves here more than anything.

    Children are simply a right of passage for homosexuals. They revel in the very idea of taking normal children and warping them to be the next generation of little bisexuals and homosexuals.

    The lesbians especially are fanatical about getting their hands on children. And it absolutely is child abuse. Right down to their support of making TV shows out of little kids being given hormone therapy, as we see in that “I am Jazz” show, or w/e it’s called.

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    I understand Massachusetts is as bad with the adoption agencies favoring gay couples over Men and women married couples

    When the Jews first started the gay thing 50 years ago I thought it had just 2 purposes

    1. Create another grievance group Jews could use.

    2. Give some White men the means to escape affirmative action

    But the sexual attacks on children are beyond depraved to diabolical. Supreme Court justice Darth Vader Ginsburg wrote a paper advocating reducing the age of consent to 12. Hildabeast wrote a paper advocating emancipating everyone at age 14 so they could go to work if they wanted.
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  65. Liza says:
    @Allan
    Here's a fable which can be used to impart street smarts while delivering a political message of extraordinary contemporary relevance:


    The Bitch and Her Whelps

    A BITCH, ready to whelp, earnestly begged a shepherd for a place where she might litter. When her request was granted, she besought permission to rear her puppies in the same spot. The shepherd again consented. But at last the Bitch, protected by the bodyguard of her Whelps, who had now grown up and were able to defend themselves, asserted her exclusive right to the place and would not permit the shepherd to approach.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/aesop/aes262.htm

    Hi, Allan. There’s various tales with that message, but thanks for passing that one along, as I was not familiar with it. Those sentences are chilling. So much in so few words.

    I have a book on that same theme Cry Wolf A Political Fable by Paul Lake. Except it’s not a dog about to birth, but rather an injured deer wanting rest and sustenance on a farm of hardworking animals. This is a sort of modern version of Animal Farm and teenagers would certainly “get it” but it is good reading for all ages.

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  66. @Bardon Kaldian
    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don't think you belong to that category). I'll just write a summary of a summary (basically, a C/P) & for serious analyses- whoever is interested- point to Laqueur's & Brustein's works (there are tons of them, but this would have to suffice: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4E86242277746DA6E5587E4DF122BDD1 , http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E194C4F4F44E1146ACC4881034E0CDDC )

    I don't want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I'll go...

    1. you write as Jews are a separate, non-white "race". In all likelihood, they are, phenotypically -not "people of color". They're, visually, Mediterranean types we can find in Greece, southern Italy etc. Of course, some Jewish racial nationalists will disagree: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/

    Well: a) not all Caucasians are white. You can be both Caucasian & non-white- for instance most Iranians and Arabs. b) Jews are a mixed bag & most of them look white. And now we come to the "social construct" element of race: those Jews who look white & identify with Western civilization will sign for white race/identity; on the other hand, nationalist, Judaist Jews who identify "whiteness" with their historical enemy, Europe, both pre-Christian (Greece & Rome) & Christian will opt for non-white MENA "race".

    2. you conflate ancestry & identity. So, for instance, Karl Marx was not a Jew in his own eyes, only a person of Jewish ancestry. For his opponents like Bakunin and Duhring he was a "Jew" because they saw Jewishness as a genealogical stain, and therefore Marx could be a "Jew" without knowing anything of Jewish culture, either religious or secular, or possessing a sense of loyalty toward "real", Judaistic Jews.That was label they put on him, not manifestation of his self-consciousness.
    Also, atheist Jews can claim Jewish identity (tribal secular culture), but I'm skeptical about Jewish converts to Christianity. Judaist Jews, generally, don't consider them to be Jewish anymore. Cultural gap is too wide.

    And now summing up- I don't see hyper-analysis of various areas would change much..

    Jews are an ethnic religion or religious culture. They are not a "race" (except in the 19th C sense), but they do have a non-negligible genetic homogeneity (apart from Ethiopian "Jews", most Jews are Europeanized Middle Easterners).
    Theirs is a tribal ethnic religion, similar to Parsis or Sikhs: that's why Ivanka Trump is not a Jewess, although she may think so. If a William Bond from Tuscaloosa converts to Sikhism, he won't become a "Sikh" (although he may consider himself to be, similar to James Jesus Angleton's progeny). Due to the tribalism, Jews remain something like a people (which is impossoble in universalist religions like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism).

    In past two centuries, European Jews - with Haredi & a few other exceptions- have
    assimilated into host societies: German, Russian, French, British, Austrian, Italian, Polish,..

    The highest level of assimilation had been achieved in pre- Hitler Germany where most German Jews had considered themselves to be Germans primarily, and Jews only
    secondarily. This can be seen from their high participation in all-German national efforts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenz%C3%A4hlung & high percentages of intermarriage, which fluctuated from 25% to 40% during 1920s.

    How it all ended, we know.

    American Jews, most of them, have their roots in Russian Empire (they've swamped earlier, more "European" German Jewish immigrants). They have retained their national culture (Yiddish, written in Hebrew script), numerous dietary laws & other customs. In short, US got mostly unassimilated ghetto Jews.

    Due to their work ethics, culture, slightly higher IQ & ethnic networking, they thrived in the US in various areas & became very influential. From early 1900s to, perhaps, Six Days War in 1967, most of them tried to assimilate & become virtually indistinguishable from WASPs.

    But then, things changed & many US Jews had recovered their primary ethnic-cultural identity as Jews first. Because this is a sensitive issue, there is no profusion of reliable sociological investigation data, graphs, categorizations. Just, as a rule of thumb, we can divide Jewish Americans into a few
    categories:

    1. JINOs. Many US "Jews" are assimilated & don't think of themselves as Jews primarily. They account for anything between 20% and 50%.

    2. secular & religious Jews who possess partial Jewish identity, but for them it is blended with broader American loyalty. It is hard to tell how many people belong to this category.

    3. religious Orthodox Jews who may be annoying as neighbors, but are not too politically minded.

    4. the last segment would be American Jews (as different from Jewish Americans). They can be secular or religious; rich or poor; intensity of their commitment to Israel or Jewish ethnic activism may vary, but they are basically cultural aliens in US & Europe. For secularists, Auschwitz & Israel have replaced Torah & Talmud as chief emotional anticorrosives that shield them from assimilation.

    My guess is that they are somewhere between 15% and 25% of all US Jews. This segment can be further divided into subsegments (for instance, some are anti-Christian, while others are not). But, what is common to them is their clear differentiation from host national cultures, stubborn insistence on their ethnic-national individuality & a sense of being an "endangered species". Some subsegments of this portion of American Jews are true aliens in the US & through their ethnic activism, frequently masked as moral universalism, try to subvert dominant cultural values & change host society into a shapeless mess.

    This is a minority of Jewish Americans, but they have economic, societal, cultural & political impact by far surpassing their numbers. And they seem not to learn from history: Brazilian Jews, because of slow but inevitable future collapse of multiracial Brazilian society are just trying to "get out". Jewish elites, across the world, are still in thrall to Nazi-Aryan iconography & mythology as the central threat to their existence, while the world has moved past it long ago.

    In this, last portion of Jewish Americans one can find typical traits of cultural alienation, ethnic paranoia, "us" vs. "them" mentality, ..basically, a sense of being a perpetual stranger who wants to shape the dominant discourse & identity in order to avoid- in their eyes- future pogroms & genocide. Because in the fevered mind of pathological Jewish nationalists, Europeans & whites, virtually all of them, possess the inner Nazi screaming to get out & finally finalize the Final Solution. This is an illustration of such a mindset:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

    http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/nazism-and-christian-heritage

    It's not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ....

    and AaronB

    Good to see an attempt at reasoned discussion on a thread with nearly no hope of staying on rail.

    Bardon Kaldian your first reply was effective but your second reply doesn’t work well. 80% of it, it’s not clear what it’s trying to do.
    Or to put it another way: it may as well be trying to tidy up a trash heap.

    The question of “Jewish” race, and “white” race and everything crossing over and in-between is hopelessly fraught. That’s the reason why, on the occasion when an anti-Semitist makes a good point, it’s still hopeless to go down the road he wishes to lead you as his solution is one founded on sand.

    Here is why:
    Indo-European can be: linguistic, or cultural or genetic
    Semitic can be: linguistic, or cultural or genetic

    Confusion reigns supreme because both Indo-European and Semitic can be phenotype “white” and no one can articulate a consensus rule for conflation or de-conflation. It is possible to be 100% linguistically Indo-European (speaks English), 100% culturally Indo-European (understands the history of Common Law, attends a Presbyterian Church, recognizes and celebrates Maundy Thursday, sends children to a school where they learn Latin and study the Aeneid), and perhaps 48% Indo-European genetically with a majority of autosomal genes coming from west Africa … and be considerably more Indo-European than the next “white” person a stone’s throw away.

    [MORE]

    Now: account for all combinations and permutations by way of language, culture and genetics.

    What follows: the interminable intra-Jewish question of “who is a Jew?” and the parallel navel-gazing and reflection admiring by anti-Semitists of “what and who is white?”

    When so much more is at stake, “white” is to society and politics like sugar – pure, refined sugar – it’s a concept that poses the same problems as the sweetener.

    The problem with sugar is that it overwhelms all other conditions – a person becomes so hooked on pure refined sugar that he cannot be troubled to learn the fine art of making delicatessen bread nor appreciate the benefits of tea. For him, it is all foods infused with refined sugar and soda pop.

    This is a weakness. Japanese and Koreans don’t have this weakness, they sublimate the energy that is not sapped by this weakness to rise to a culture.

    There’s a solution to nearly all of these problems that doesn’t require anyone to worry so much about “Jews” – restore freedom of association, and buttress it with crypto-currency, i.e.: “you won’t play by the rules, you are outside the system”.

    Systems will work when built upon good culture, honor, common respect for rules, expulsion of those who abuse the rules (more subtle a fault than failing to follow them), and a rejection of double-standards.

    That will work. It really will. Create a Walled Garden. It’s the only system that has ever worked. Make the mistake of creating it based on phenotype and you will find out quickly how many sociopaths and psychopaths present as “white” – your system will collapse like a late-stage Type-II diabetic. Base your system on behavior and provide the means and impetus to teach and spread and pass on the culture while embracing those who embrace the culture – then we may reverse this train.

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  67. @Bardon Kaldian
    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don't think you belong to that category). I'll just write a summary of a summary (basically, a C/P) & for serious analyses- whoever is interested- point to Laqueur's & Brustein's works (there are tons of them, but this would have to suffice: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4E86242277746DA6E5587E4DF122BDD1 , http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E194C4F4F44E1146ACC4881034E0CDDC )

    I don't want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I'll go...

    1. you write as Jews are a separate, non-white "race". In all likelihood, they are, phenotypically -not "people of color". They're, visually, Mediterranean types we can find in Greece, southern Italy etc. Of course, some Jewish racial nationalists will disagree: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/

    Well: a) not all Caucasians are white. You can be both Caucasian & non-white- for instance most Iranians and Arabs. b) Jews are a mixed bag & most of them look white. And now we come to the "social construct" element of race: those Jews who look white & identify with Western civilization will sign for white race/identity; on the other hand, nationalist, Judaist Jews who identify "whiteness" with their historical enemy, Europe, both pre-Christian (Greece & Rome) & Christian will opt for non-white MENA "race".

    2. you conflate ancestry & identity. So, for instance, Karl Marx was not a Jew in his own eyes, only a person of Jewish ancestry. For his opponents like Bakunin and Duhring he was a "Jew" because they saw Jewishness as a genealogical stain, and therefore Marx could be a "Jew" without knowing anything of Jewish culture, either religious or secular, or possessing a sense of loyalty toward "real", Judaistic Jews.That was label they put on him, not manifestation of his self-consciousness.
    Also, atheist Jews can claim Jewish identity (tribal secular culture), but I'm skeptical about Jewish converts to Christianity. Judaist Jews, generally, don't consider them to be Jewish anymore. Cultural gap is too wide.

    And now summing up- I don't see hyper-analysis of various areas would change much..

    Jews are an ethnic religion or religious culture. They are not a "race" (except in the 19th C sense), but they do have a non-negligible genetic homogeneity (apart from Ethiopian "Jews", most Jews are Europeanized Middle Easterners).
    Theirs is a tribal ethnic religion, similar to Parsis or Sikhs: that's why Ivanka Trump is not a Jewess, although she may think so. If a William Bond from Tuscaloosa converts to Sikhism, he won't become a "Sikh" (although he may consider himself to be, similar to James Jesus Angleton's progeny). Due to the tribalism, Jews remain something like a people (which is impossoble in universalist religions like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism).

    In past two centuries, European Jews - with Haredi & a few other exceptions- have
    assimilated into host societies: German, Russian, French, British, Austrian, Italian, Polish,..

    The highest level of assimilation had been achieved in pre- Hitler Germany where most German Jews had considered themselves to be Germans primarily, and Jews only
    secondarily. This can be seen from their high participation in all-German national efforts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenz%C3%A4hlung & high percentages of intermarriage, which fluctuated from 25% to 40% during 1920s.

    How it all ended, we know.

    American Jews, most of them, have their roots in Russian Empire (they've swamped earlier, more "European" German Jewish immigrants). They have retained their national culture (Yiddish, written in Hebrew script), numerous dietary laws & other customs. In short, US got mostly unassimilated ghetto Jews.

    Due to their work ethics, culture, slightly higher IQ & ethnic networking, they thrived in the US in various areas & became very influential. From early 1900s to, perhaps, Six Days War in 1967, most of them tried to assimilate & become virtually indistinguishable from WASPs.

    But then, things changed & many US Jews had recovered their primary ethnic-cultural identity as Jews first. Because this is a sensitive issue, there is no profusion of reliable sociological investigation data, graphs, categorizations. Just, as a rule of thumb, we can divide Jewish Americans into a few
    categories:

    1. JINOs. Many US "Jews" are assimilated & don't think of themselves as Jews primarily. They account for anything between 20% and 50%.

    2. secular & religious Jews who possess partial Jewish identity, but for them it is blended with broader American loyalty. It is hard to tell how many people belong to this category.

    3. religious Orthodox Jews who may be annoying as neighbors, but are not too politically minded.

    4. the last segment would be American Jews (as different from Jewish Americans). They can be secular or religious; rich or poor; intensity of their commitment to Israel or Jewish ethnic activism may vary, but they are basically cultural aliens in US & Europe. For secularists, Auschwitz & Israel have replaced Torah & Talmud as chief emotional anticorrosives that shield them from assimilation.

    My guess is that they are somewhere between 15% and 25% of all US Jews. This segment can be further divided into subsegments (for instance, some are anti-Christian, while others are not). But, what is common to them is their clear differentiation from host national cultures, stubborn insistence on their ethnic-national individuality & a sense of being an "endangered species". Some subsegments of this portion of American Jews are true aliens in the US & through their ethnic activism, frequently masked as moral universalism, try to subvert dominant cultural values & change host society into a shapeless mess.

    This is a minority of Jewish Americans, but they have economic, societal, cultural & political impact by far surpassing their numbers. And they seem not to learn from history: Brazilian Jews, because of slow but inevitable future collapse of multiracial Brazilian society are just trying to "get out". Jewish elites, across the world, are still in thrall to Nazi-Aryan iconography & mythology as the central threat to their existence, while the world has moved past it long ago.

    In this, last portion of Jewish Americans one can find typical traits of cultural alienation, ethnic paranoia, "us" vs. "them" mentality, ..basically, a sense of being a perpetual stranger who wants to shape the dominant discourse & identity in order to avoid- in their eyes- future pogroms & genocide. Because in the fevered mind of pathological Jewish nationalists, Europeans & whites, virtually all of them, possess the inner Nazi screaming to get out & finally finalize the Final Solution. This is an illustration of such a mindset:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

    http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/nazism-and-christian-heritage

    It's not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ....

    “It’s not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ….”

    Are you calling Jews idiots? Do you think they aren’t able to discern for themselves who they think their *true* enemy really is?

    You seem to attribute “ignorance” and “stupidity” to what most “anti-semites” would simply say is “malicious” – They know full well who their enemy is – that’s why the childrens books feature young white couples, not young black or moslem couples.

    Why do you think in this video every character is “white” except for the black male who cucks the whimpy white guy? Why didn’t they have all the women black (or moslem) and the “suave” guy white?

    Do you think that’s an accident?

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    Muslim isn’t an ethnicity, no matter how much the Left liberals would love it to be so.

    Peace.
    , @daniel le mouche
    'that’s why the childrens books feature young white couples, not young black or moslem couples.'

    Last week I took back to the library a stack of maybe twelve books my wife had taken out to teach our son to read. A good sixty percent had a mixed black/white couple, usually with the man being black. But there couldn't possibly be a conspiracy amongst the elite, eh?
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  68. @Wally
    "A German test atomic explosion" ??

    That would have necessarily been seen by more than your lone "witness".
    BTW, there's thousands of "witnesses" to witchcraft too.

    And where is the massive physical proof that would also necessarily exist if such a claim was true.

    At the Nuremberg Show Trials it was claimed in a faked communist 'document' as discussed by prosecutor Jackson that a German atomic bomb killed 20,000 Jews, Jackson admitted the 'document' was fake, and it was quietly dropped.
    Even the fake Zionist 'historians' have ditched the absurdity of German atomic bombs,

    Indeed then, you must a True Believer in 'soap made from Jews, the equally laughable 'human skin lampshades, and impossible 'gas chambers'.
    Try not to die stupid.
    www.codoh.com
    The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    You remind me of Churchill’s scientific adviser prof Lindemann, phycisist, who, when British radar detected the VII flights, up to 80 km height, said it was impossible.
    Not until if I remember correctly Poles put the remains of a missile into a British plane, a hazardous flight, did the British discover that the Germans could pump liquid oxygen, that was also used to cool the combustion chamber.

    Rudel already in the 1956 edition of his book mentions that Hitler wanted him to drop an atomic bomb on the Ural hydro electric installations, in order to stop USSR tank production.
    Hitler therefore forbade him to fly any more, he was Germany’s best pilot.
    Hans-Ulrich Rudel, ´Mein Kriegstagebuch, Aufzeichnungen eines Stukafliegers’, 1983, 2006 Dresden
    On the Prague airport two planes, that had been adapted to carry the hydrogen bomb, a sphere of about a metre in diameter, were ready.
    Villagers near the test site witnessed huge explosions.
    Secretaries saw prototypes.
    A physicist confirms that it is physically possible to cause hydrogen fusion with ordinary explosives.
    But the technique apparently is so difficult that just a few tests succeeded.

    But of course, without reading the book you know best.
    It is quite possible that Hitler fought on as long as possible in the hope that the bomb would become operational.

    Try to imagine what a few VII’s dropping hydrogen bombs would do.

    When Hitler visited Peenemünde he said to Dornberger that he was one of the two men in Germany had to make apologies to.
    I long wondered who was the second
    Walter Dornberger, Peenemünde, Die Geschichte der V-Waffen, Esslingen 1981, 2003

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    Yep, you're still making stuff up. Got witchcraft?

    We're still waiting for the massive physical proof that your laughable 'German atomic bomb explosion' would necessarily create in it's wake.

    It's really just more of the 'Nazi Derangement Syndrome' found in mentally unstable Jews & neo-Marxists. Pure lunacy.

    Your claim does fit in ncely here:
    'Most laughable claims' : https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9837

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable 'holocaust' storyline is the message.
    www.codoh.com

    , @Dante Ardenz
    What Polish Comic Book did you take this history from ? I have studied Jew War Two history for 40 years . Only Jew Fantasy Films would convey your content . I have every book authorized / written by Hans Rudel and know people who knew him ! No such atom bomb mission over London ever discussed by him ,and Fuhrer. Was he going to dive bomb.the device with a Stuka ? He was not qualified to fly anything bigger . Hitler had total contempt for " Jewish Physics" , and by written ,and witness testimony had no time for atomic war. He never visited Pennemunde period . Only by film did he see Von Braun and his teams work. Churchill and his vicious Jew adviser Lindaman had nothing to do with radar study in the time frame referred to. " Water Closet " ,as Rothschild's puppet Churchill was referred to when a discredited back bencher in the International Jews pay to push for war with Germany was not PM in 1939 ! Not until June of 40 , did Jewry get him appointed . This is nonsense like ," Onto Berlin " , painted on Polish " tankettes " , when the stupid Polish Military junta holding 30 Percent German population hostage over the Reichs frontier ,rejected Hitler's alliance offer for the Jews " guarantee " , in London . See ,THE VIRUS HOUSE , David Irvings work on Reichs Atom bomb program, THE MARES NEST ,by David Irving ,on Pennemunde , CHURCHILL WAR ,by Irving ( Creeps Jew ruled record) , CHURCHILL & THE JEWS , Martin Gilbert . His official Jewish biograher.
    , @Mr. Anon
    A remarkable post - I don't think that a single thing you said was true. Outstanding.
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  69. @isthatright
    So your snobbish rant disproved what in this article?

    So your snobbish rant disproved what in this article?

    Bardon made a case and it’s a decent one, albeit I do not share some of his views, which is not crucial for a discussion. A case in point–a complete (and catastrophic) submitting of US foreign policy to Israel’s interests wouldn’t be possible without Christian Zionism in the US. Guess what, those people count themselves “Christian”. The fact that US Jews in the so called “intellectual” (there is nothing really intellectual there, but still) field in the US rode “this” Old Testament vehicle to the top of a political, academic and “intellectual” power and influence testifies not only to their sinister agenda, and some of it is sinister, but opens the issue of, both willful and not, collaboration of people who are manifestly non-Jewish in any sense and even count themselves as 100% USDA approved Americans in contributing greatly to the American demise. This is just one example. So, who’s “guilty” more? Jews or those who worship them and Israel? Did they become inseparable? I think they did, but I could be wrong.

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    The Christian Zionists are a big problem (and despicable as well), but it’s simply ludicrous to think they’re the driving force behind the US’s Israeli-centric foreign policy.
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  70. Wally says: • Website
    @Bardon Kaldian
    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don't think you belong to that category). I'll just write a summary of a summary (basically, a C/P) & for serious analyses- whoever is interested- point to Laqueur's & Brustein's works (there are tons of them, but this would have to suffice: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4E86242277746DA6E5587E4DF122BDD1 , http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E194C4F4F44E1146ACC4881034E0CDDC )

    I don't want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I'll go...

    1. you write as Jews are a separate, non-white "race". In all likelihood, they are, phenotypically -not "people of color". They're, visually, Mediterranean types we can find in Greece, southern Italy etc. Of course, some Jewish racial nationalists will disagree: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/

    Well: a) not all Caucasians are white. You can be both Caucasian & non-white- for instance most Iranians and Arabs. b) Jews are a mixed bag & most of them look white. And now we come to the "social construct" element of race: those Jews who look white & identify with Western civilization will sign for white race/identity; on the other hand, nationalist, Judaist Jews who identify "whiteness" with their historical enemy, Europe, both pre-Christian (Greece & Rome) & Christian will opt for non-white MENA "race".

    2. you conflate ancestry & identity. So, for instance, Karl Marx was not a Jew in his own eyes, only a person of Jewish ancestry. For his opponents like Bakunin and Duhring he was a "Jew" because they saw Jewishness as a genealogical stain, and therefore Marx could be a "Jew" without knowing anything of Jewish culture, either religious or secular, or possessing a sense of loyalty toward "real", Judaistic Jews.That was label they put on him, not manifestation of his self-consciousness.
    Also, atheist Jews can claim Jewish identity (tribal secular culture), but I'm skeptical about Jewish converts to Christianity. Judaist Jews, generally, don't consider them to be Jewish anymore. Cultural gap is too wide.

    And now summing up- I don't see hyper-analysis of various areas would change much..

    Jews are an ethnic religion or religious culture. They are not a "race" (except in the 19th C sense), but they do have a non-negligible genetic homogeneity (apart from Ethiopian "Jews", most Jews are Europeanized Middle Easterners).
    Theirs is a tribal ethnic religion, similar to Parsis or Sikhs: that's why Ivanka Trump is not a Jewess, although she may think so. If a William Bond from Tuscaloosa converts to Sikhism, he won't become a "Sikh" (although he may consider himself to be, similar to James Jesus Angleton's progeny). Due to the tribalism, Jews remain something like a people (which is impossoble in universalist religions like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism).

    In past two centuries, European Jews - with Haredi & a few other exceptions- have
    assimilated into host societies: German, Russian, French, British, Austrian, Italian, Polish,..

    The highest level of assimilation had been achieved in pre- Hitler Germany where most German Jews had considered themselves to be Germans primarily, and Jews only
    secondarily. This can be seen from their high participation in all-German national efforts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenz%C3%A4hlung & high percentages of intermarriage, which fluctuated from 25% to 40% during 1920s.

    How it all ended, we know.

    American Jews, most of them, have their roots in Russian Empire (they've swamped earlier, more "European" German Jewish immigrants). They have retained their national culture (Yiddish, written in Hebrew script), numerous dietary laws & other customs. In short, US got mostly unassimilated ghetto Jews.

    Due to their work ethics, culture, slightly higher IQ & ethnic networking, they thrived in the US in various areas & became very influential. From early 1900s to, perhaps, Six Days War in 1967, most of them tried to assimilate & become virtually indistinguishable from WASPs.

    But then, things changed & many US Jews had recovered their primary ethnic-cultural identity as Jews first. Because this is a sensitive issue, there is no profusion of reliable sociological investigation data, graphs, categorizations. Just, as a rule of thumb, we can divide Jewish Americans into a few
    categories:

    1. JINOs. Many US "Jews" are assimilated & don't think of themselves as Jews primarily. They account for anything between 20% and 50%.

    2. secular & religious Jews who possess partial Jewish identity, but for them it is blended with broader American loyalty. It is hard to tell how many people belong to this category.

    3. religious Orthodox Jews who may be annoying as neighbors, but are not too politically minded.

    4. the last segment would be American Jews (as different from Jewish Americans). They can be secular or religious; rich or poor; intensity of their commitment to Israel or Jewish ethnic activism may vary, but they are basically cultural aliens in US & Europe. For secularists, Auschwitz & Israel have replaced Torah & Talmud as chief emotional anticorrosives that shield them from assimilation.

    My guess is that they are somewhere between 15% and 25% of all US Jews. This segment can be further divided into subsegments (for instance, some are anti-Christian, while others are not). But, what is common to them is their clear differentiation from host national cultures, stubborn insistence on their ethnic-national individuality & a sense of being an "endangered species". Some subsegments of this portion of American Jews are true aliens in the US & through their ethnic activism, frequently masked as moral universalism, try to subvert dominant cultural values & change host society into a shapeless mess.

    This is a minority of Jewish Americans, but they have economic, societal, cultural & political impact by far surpassing their numbers. And they seem not to learn from history: Brazilian Jews, because of slow but inevitable future collapse of multiracial Brazilian society are just trying to "get out". Jewish elites, across the world, are still in thrall to Nazi-Aryan iconography & mythology as the central threat to their existence, while the world has moved past it long ago.

    In this, last portion of Jewish Americans one can find typical traits of cultural alienation, ethnic paranoia, "us" vs. "them" mentality, ..basically, a sense of being a perpetual stranger who wants to shape the dominant discourse & identity in order to avoid- in their eyes- future pogroms & genocide. Because in the fevered mind of pathological Jewish nationalists, Europeans & whites, virtually all of them, possess the inner Nazi screaming to get out & finally finalize the Final Solution. This is an illustration of such a mindset:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

    http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/nazism-and-christian-heritage

    It's not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ....

    said:
    “finally finalize the Final Solution”

    [MORE]

    Except the meaning of “Final Solution” as used by Germans was just as German officials openly stated, deportation.
    plus:
    “I owe my permission to submit the Zionist plan for the final solution of the Jewish Question.”
    - ‘Father of Zionism’ Theodor Herzl, letter to the Czar, November 22, 1899.

    See the scientifically impossible ‘holocaust’ easily & thoroughly debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    Jews have been promoting the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869:

    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

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  71. Wally says:
    @Oscar Peterson
    Again, BK, what does this have to do with the thesis of piece, i.e., that there is a systemic hypocrisy evidenced in the writings of these jew kidlit authors to the effect that they simultaneously work to subvert goy cultural traditions and reinforce jew cultural traditions?
    Whining about "conspiratorial anti-semites" is not only not to the point, it would seem to constitute another attempt to divert the discussion away from the point the author was making.

    Good points

    There’s certainly nothing wrong with being ‘antisemitic’.

    antisemitic:
    any thought or person that a Jew doesn’t like

    http://www.codoh.com

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  72. Alden says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965
    As a resident of CA, I can assure you that gays use children with the intention of warping their views and beliefs as a means of carrying their perverse mission to multiply into the future.

    It is normal practice for homosexuals in CA to strive to raise children who are full-fledged sexual degenerates themselves by the time they graduate middle school. They are often very heavy drug abusers as well. Lots of ecstasy, cocaine and mollys among their perversely nurtured children. Of course that's not entirely uncommon among children with proper parents either, this is CA after all. The kids raise themselves here more than anything.

    Children are simply a right of passage for homosexuals. They revel in the very idea of taking normal children and warping them to be the next generation of little bisexuals and homosexuals.

    The lesbians especially are fanatical about getting their hands on children. And it absolutely is child abuse. Right down to their support of making TV shows out of little kids being given hormone therapy, as we see in that "I am Jazz" show, or w/e it's called.

    I understand Massachusetts is as bad with the adoption agencies favoring gay couples over Men and women married couples

    When the Jews first started the gay thing 50 years ago I thought it had just 2 purposes

    1. Create another grievance group Jews could use.

    2. Give some White men the means to escape affirmative action

    But the sexual attacks on children are beyond depraved to diabolical. Supreme Court justice Darth Vader Ginsburg wrote a paper advocating reducing the age of consent to 12. Hildabeast wrote a paper advocating emancipating everyone at age 14 so they could go to work if they wanted.

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  73. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don't think you belong to that category). I'll just write a summary of a summary (basically, a C/P) & for serious analyses- whoever is interested- point to Laqueur's & Brustein's works (there are tons of them, but this would have to suffice: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4E86242277746DA6E5587E4DF122BDD1 , http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E194C4F4F44E1146ACC4881034E0CDDC )

    I don't want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I'll go...

    1. you write as Jews are a separate, non-white "race". In all likelihood, they are, phenotypically -not "people of color". They're, visually, Mediterranean types we can find in Greece, southern Italy etc. Of course, some Jewish racial nationalists will disagree: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/

    Well: a) not all Caucasians are white. You can be both Caucasian & non-white- for instance most Iranians and Arabs. b) Jews are a mixed bag & most of them look white. And now we come to the "social construct" element of race: those Jews who look white & identify with Western civilization will sign for white race/identity; on the other hand, nationalist, Judaist Jews who identify "whiteness" with their historical enemy, Europe, both pre-Christian (Greece & Rome) & Christian will opt for non-white MENA "race".

    2. you conflate ancestry & identity. So, for instance, Karl Marx was not a Jew in his own eyes, only a person of Jewish ancestry. For his opponents like Bakunin and Duhring he was a "Jew" because they saw Jewishness as a genealogical stain, and therefore Marx could be a "Jew" without knowing anything of Jewish culture, either religious or secular, or possessing a sense of loyalty toward "real", Judaistic Jews.That was label they put on him, not manifestation of his self-consciousness.
    Also, atheist Jews can claim Jewish identity (tribal secular culture), but I'm skeptical about Jewish converts to Christianity. Judaist Jews, generally, don't consider them to be Jewish anymore. Cultural gap is too wide.

    And now summing up- I don't see hyper-analysis of various areas would change much..

    Jews are an ethnic religion or religious culture. They are not a "race" (except in the 19th C sense), but they do have a non-negligible genetic homogeneity (apart from Ethiopian "Jews", most Jews are Europeanized Middle Easterners).
    Theirs is a tribal ethnic religion, similar to Parsis or Sikhs: that's why Ivanka Trump is not a Jewess, although she may think so. If a William Bond from Tuscaloosa converts to Sikhism, he won't become a "Sikh" (although he may consider himself to be, similar to James Jesus Angleton's progeny). Due to the tribalism, Jews remain something like a people (which is impossoble in universalist religions like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism).

    In past two centuries, European Jews - with Haredi & a few other exceptions- have
    assimilated into host societies: German, Russian, French, British, Austrian, Italian, Polish,..

    The highest level of assimilation had been achieved in pre- Hitler Germany where most German Jews had considered themselves to be Germans primarily, and Jews only
    secondarily. This can be seen from their high participation in all-German national efforts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenz%C3%A4hlung & high percentages of intermarriage, which fluctuated from 25% to 40% during 1920s.

    How it all ended, we know.

    American Jews, most of them, have their roots in Russian Empire (they've swamped earlier, more "European" German Jewish immigrants). They have retained their national culture (Yiddish, written in Hebrew script), numerous dietary laws & other customs. In short, US got mostly unassimilated ghetto Jews.

    Due to their work ethics, culture, slightly higher IQ & ethnic networking, they thrived in the US in various areas & became very influential. From early 1900s to, perhaps, Six Days War in 1967, most of them tried to assimilate & become virtually indistinguishable from WASPs.

    But then, things changed & many US Jews had recovered their primary ethnic-cultural identity as Jews first. Because this is a sensitive issue, there is no profusion of reliable sociological investigation data, graphs, categorizations. Just, as a rule of thumb, we can divide Jewish Americans into a few
    categories:

    1. JINOs. Many US "Jews" are assimilated & don't think of themselves as Jews primarily. They account for anything between 20% and 50%.

    2. secular & religious Jews who possess partial Jewish identity, but for them it is blended with broader American loyalty. It is hard to tell how many people belong to this category.

    3. religious Orthodox Jews who may be annoying as neighbors, but are not too politically minded.

    4. the last segment would be American Jews (as different from Jewish Americans). They can be secular or religious; rich or poor; intensity of their commitment to Israel or Jewish ethnic activism may vary, but they are basically cultural aliens in US & Europe. For secularists, Auschwitz & Israel have replaced Torah & Talmud as chief emotional anticorrosives that shield them from assimilation.

    My guess is that they are somewhere between 15% and 25% of all US Jews. This segment can be further divided into subsegments (for instance, some are anti-Christian, while others are not). But, what is common to them is their clear differentiation from host national cultures, stubborn insistence on their ethnic-national individuality & a sense of being an "endangered species". Some subsegments of this portion of American Jews are true aliens in the US & through their ethnic activism, frequently masked as moral universalism, try to subvert dominant cultural values & change host society into a shapeless mess.

    This is a minority of Jewish Americans, but they have economic, societal, cultural & political impact by far surpassing their numbers. And they seem not to learn from history: Brazilian Jews, because of slow but inevitable future collapse of multiracial Brazilian society are just trying to "get out". Jewish elites, across the world, are still in thrall to Nazi-Aryan iconography & mythology as the central threat to their existence, while the world has moved past it long ago.

    In this, last portion of Jewish Americans one can find typical traits of cultural alienation, ethnic paranoia, "us" vs. "them" mentality, ..basically, a sense of being a perpetual stranger who wants to shape the dominant discourse & identity in order to avoid- in their eyes- future pogroms & genocide. Because in the fevered mind of pathological Jewish nationalists, Europeans & whites, virtually all of them, possess the inner Nazi screaming to get out & finally finalize the Final Solution. This is an illustration of such a mindset:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

    http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/nazism-and-christian-heritage

    It's not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ....

    Ok, I don’t see anything to object to in your comment. I substantially agree with it.

    Your comment, in my eyes, successfully challenges McDonald’s theory of group evolutionary strategy, but I never saw McDonald’s theory as anything other than a useful metaphor trying to make sense of a confusing set of facts, as all such neat tidy narratives inevitably are, and should be taken with a grain of salt.

    But you seem to agree that a substantial portion of self identified Jews defines themselves as being at war with white gentiles, whom they regard as ancestral enemies, and this dramatically affects their interactions with whites, both consciously and unconsciousl. As indeed, how could it not.

    Your opposition seems confined to the more radical claims of those you term conspiratorial anti-semites, who paint with too broad a brush, lack nuance, see in terms of “essences”, etc.

    All of that makes a great deal of sense and I’m largely in agreement.

    Not being a genetic determinist myself, I don’t subscribe to McDonald’s theories. However, I do think he’s performed a valuable service in providing a remarkably detailed and accurate analysis of the psychology of a significant portion of the Jewish population, and formulating a comprehensive theory that while lacking in nuance nevertheless provides a useful lens through which to view an elusive subject.

    So – your criticisms of him are correct, but he has value.

    Finally, I’d like to point out that your analysis of Jews presents their behavior as stemming from a sense of radical insecurity. While this is true, and generates a tremendous amount of psychic energy , the other side of the coin is the Jewish drive for supremacy and dominance, which is implicit in Jewish culture, and the envy and resentment they feel towards whites and Christians. Another factor that should not be ignored is Jewish cultures valorization of wealth and contempt for the poor man – and money leads to many a crime.

    But overall, your comment seems fair.

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    But you seem to agree that a substantial portion of self identified Jews defines themselves as being at war with white gentiles, whom they regard as ancestral enemies, and this dramatically affects their interactions with whites, both consciously and unconsciousl. As indeed, how could it not.
     
    History is what hurts. They are, historically, a middle-Eastern religious-cultural people living among Europeans (I won't elaborate on the US or on their history in Ummayad, Abbasid, Cordovan caliphates or Ottoman empire). They're-historically- foreigners, like Gypsies. But, unlike Gypsies: a) they are not so "racially" alien, b) they have been reshaped & reconfigured in various European/Christian countries & have become Italians, Germans, Poles, Russians, French,... Simply, hard-core Jewish nationalists & identitarians truly are aliens & sometimes enemies. But, this is a small minority. Most of them, even those with ethnic-cultural identity are not inimical aliens. Why would any reasonable European or Euro-American see them & their worship of their middle-Eastern variant of Zeus as something intrinsically dangerous to our identity is beyond me.

    MacDonald sees them as "eternal aliens" & eternal enemies. He's ahistorical, tendentious & mostly wrong.

    Not being a genetic determinist myself, I don’t subscribe to McDonald’s theories. However, I do think he’s performed a valuable service in providing a remarkably detailed and accurate analysis of the psychology of a significant portion of the Jewish population, and formulating a comprehensive theory that while lacking in nuance nevertheless provides a useful lens through which to view an elusive subject.

    So – your criticisms of him are correct, but he has value.
     
    MacDonald has shed light on some interesting topics like history of Marranos or early Greek anti-Judaism, but he's wrong or tendentious on many topics. For instance:

    a) he pictures them as eternally warring against Europeans, race/identity-wise. In fact, nothing like that ever existed: Greek anti-Judaism is a combination of antipathy toward Asian religious tribalists who want to remain separate, like many Algerians in contemporary France (hence perception of Hebrew misanthropy) & normal economic competition (not for some imaginary resources, this is MacDonald's ludicrous invention); Roman wars against them in 1st & 2nd C AD have nothing "antisemitic" in them (bloody national uprising against the empire has to be crushed, sorry Judeans, you miscalculated); Christian anti-Judaism is a completely different matter, since Christianity is a rejuvenated Zoroastrianism with a smattering of properly Hebrew practices & Greek ideologies- odium theologicum, present in Christian anti-Jewish polemic, is basically import from the East, because core West had never been characterized by religious fanaticism in that sense or intensity; social-Darwinian anti-Semitism is, on the other hand, a new, 19th C nationalist blood-and-soil ideology.

    And for MacDonald, it is, more or less, the same. This is a complete lack of historical perspective.

    Then, he is tendentious. MacDonald presents Spanish conversos/Marranos from 15th and 16th C as ethnically-racially homogeneous group. A part of them must have stayed that way- it is perfectly natural that forcibly converted people (who had already possessed their written culture & rituals) will adopt chameleon-like behavior. So did Moriscos, forcibly converted Muslim Arabs. In fact, they had to be ethnically cleansed, all of them. So, it's not about specific Jewish traits; it is about religious violence & natural resistance of people who had found themselves on the receiving end of pressure for religious conformity. MacDonald implies that many, perhaps most Marranos succeeded in surviving Inquisition in next 2-3 centuries. But, if we are to believe chronicles & modern haplotype investigations, ca. 10% of Spaniards have J haplogroup, therefore possible Jewish ancestry.
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
    So, after all, some, but not most Marranos have succeeded to retain their identity & emigrate later to the Netherlands or Ottoman empire.

    Conspicuously, MacDonald has glossed over the fact that most Jewish Germans in the 19th C had been assimilated with high percentage of intermarriage. Marranos in 16th C did-at least a part of them-tried to retain their separate identity. Not so in early 19th C Germany, where many Jews had voluntarily been baptized & completely assimilated into German society-no Jewish separatism & tribal behavior. No "Jewish Christian" secret societies, clannish behavior, endogamous marriages...
    Mendelssohn family simply disappeared among other Germans.

    How so if they're eternally alien ethnic group? Where I can see that famous survival strategy? This "strategy", it seems, leads only to obliteration of a separate national identity.

    And to write on MacDonald's omissions & simply misconceptions (Communism, national question, Freud, Frankfurt school...) would take us too far. MacDonald is clueless re these movements.

    Finally, I’d like to point out that your analysis of Jews presents their behavior as stemming from a sense of radical insecurity. While this is true, and generates a tremendous amount of psychic energy , the other side of the coin is the Jewish drive for supremacy and dominance, which is implicit in Jewish culture, and the envy and resentment they feel towards whites and Christians. Another factor that should not be ignored is Jewish cultures valorization of wealth and contempt for the poor man – and money leads to many a crime.
     
    This is not that simple.

    1. their perverted behavior in post-WW II is one of the consequences of the genocide. If we treat them as deeply traumatized patients, we'll be nearer to truth. No group of people who had passed through, as a collective, what they've been through from 1933-1945 can, in my opinion, recover from that experience. They, ethnic Jews, live in the state of permanent trauma.

    2. their drive is not for dominance, but for security & freedom to continue their (religious) culture. They have been philanthropists for their co-religionists, but in past century or so, they've been more active in universalist humanist philanthrophy & various "progressive" movements (why else their involvement with NAACP and activism during Civil rights era?).

    In sum- they are not a monolith; they are a historical entity, growing & diminishing; judging from past half a century or so, they will be swallowed by assimilation (except in Israel), because in post-modern world it is impossible to retain ethnic individuality if you're lost all other distinctive traits & defense mechanisms polarizing you against your neighbors.
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  74. @Oscar Peterson
    Yes, differences between subgroups of Jews do exist, but one shouldn't exaggerate them. Given that the secular conquest and ongoing elimination of the Palestinians as a people is simply a modern version of the religiously originated narrative of the extermination of the Canaanites because God allegedly wanted the Jews (Israelites) to possess their land, it's important to note how much in common, below the surface level, Jews have had and still have. All this "Jews-are-way-too-diverse-to make-generalizations-about" schlock is usually deeply dishonest.

    Yes, the Jews did believe that it was their right to take the land and exterminate the Canaanites, but nobody remembers the rest of their instructions. They were told by Moses to destroy the cities in the land and never ever to build another, and never to make for themselves a king. Moses wanted them to keep to their tribes, their flocks, and to live in small villages, if not tents. They were only able to take that land at that time, because it was the end of the Late Bronze age and all of the civilised world was crashing, all the empires and nations had collapsed. When the Egyptians, Babylonians and Persians got back on their feet new empires would make quick work of the little land of Israel if they competed as a conventional nation. No, they needed to keep their families and tribes and flocks strong by staying away from urban life, so they would never be dependent upon foreign economies and usury bubbles for their daily food. They could then survive the ups and downs and continue as a people for millennia.

    For todays Jews to pretend their course is following Biblical precedents is to cherry-pick the Bible. To say that they were told to go in and build a conventional nation with cities like Tel Aviv is total baloney; they were given strict orders never to live in cities. That is why they are today such an urban people. They get by with it because the gentiles, who have only been readying at all for a few centuries, hardly bother to read at all, and certainly not well enough to come to serious terms with anything as complex as reading the Old Testament in Hebrew. And, let’s be frank. The whole democracy fetish that so captivates Europeans is basically implying that Moses was a crank to give the people laws based on ancient literate knowledge, when real truth is “self-evident,” best known by polling everyone. The contradiction between following ideas based on trial and error in there real world as recorded by long-standing literary traditions on the one hand and neo-Viking notions of voting on every belief and course of action — these are miles apart yet the Americans and Europeans have pretended in recent centuries that they follow both at the same time.

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  75. Svigor says:

    Another excellent piece, Andrew. I’m gonna have to go back through and read more of your corpus at some point.

    the goal being, as Mr. Foxman once articulated, to “make America as user-friendly to Jews as possible.”

    This ties back into something I’ve been thinking about lately; that Jews’ relationship with humanity is more utilitarian than is normal, especially for Whites. Abe kinda hung a light on this with his wording, as if we are an ATM to be manipulated by Jews.

    One by one each child is refused access until tables are turned and George finds how it feels to be on the receiving end.”

    Why do I get the feeling that making their own cardboard houses is not part of the solution?

    The contention here is not that Jews are solely behind the decline in social, cultural, and sexual norms that historically have been very beneficial for White societies.

    Jews can’t handle the message that they’re bad news, so instead of responding to it, they construct a straw man and pretend the message is “the Jews are to blame for everything.”

    If the folks at OO are so concerned about children’s litterature why don’t they write and publish their own? They seem to assume there are parents who would prefer other types of books.

    Or following the old paleo can’t-do mentality, they may just prefer complaining about what others do.

    Cuz Jews never complained about anything, or criticized anyone.

    I can’t say much about children literature, but Joyce’s imagined connection of Jews with pornography is simply absurd.

    LOL.

    So then-what about Roman orgies?

    Well, they were 1500 years ago, for starters.

    Or the fact that the most vigorous & promiscuous Hollyweirdos have always been “Aryans” (Clare Bow, Mae West, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable, Joan Crawford, Bette Davis,…up to Nicholson and Beatty).

    We can quibble over “most,” but obviously an industry run by Jewish perverts is going to attract and prefer a perverted class of non-Jews.

    Children need to be taught to share, and to be tolerant of other people.

    They also need to be immunized against commie indoctrination into oversharing and overtolerance, which is a far bigger problem among Whites today than a lack of sharing or tolerance, one which the industry (especially the Jewish contingent) fails to address at all.

    In this discussion we rarely see the religious Jews and secular Jews treated as the very different groups that they are.

    It starts at home; how often do we see the religious Jews and the secular Jews treat each other as the very different groups that they are? Or, to paraphrase anony-maus; “who’s stopping the religious Jews from publishing?”

    Unlike Mcdonald, I attribute Jewish behavior to the almost unbearable psychological pressure created by a dysfunctional culture, but growing up among Jews, I can only marvel at his unerring ability to describe Jewish traits.

    Without taking a position on McDonald’s evolutionary theory of Judaism, I can say I agree that Jewish culture is remarkably conducive to the traits and behaviors in question, and resistant to critique. This is one of the reasons I reject Jewish critique; Jewish culture listens to (never mind accepts and corrects for) none.

    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don’t think you belong to that category).

    It’s like looking in a mirror; it is useless to argue with Jews. “Jew” carries many of the same connotations as “antisemite,” to the observant.

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  76. @German_reader
    That sounds quite plausible and nuanced. But in public discourse it would be regarded as just as antisemitic as Mr Joyce's theories (which with their view of Jews as a monolithic, eternally unchanging malign presence are indeed probably beyond reason).
    Btw, how do you expect Brazil to "collapse" and why?

    It is not antisemitic in any reasonable sense of the word (ignoring loony Jewish snowflakes), because:

    a) essentialist antisemites see Jews as an alien & unassimilable “race”, inimical to the West by default (I am not talking about Arab-Islamic world, because the term “antisemitism” does not apply to Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is simply clash of two nationalisms). Empirical data don’t bear them out: high levels of Jewish intermarriage with non-Jews (in Weimar Germany 25%-40%, in contemporary Russia perhaps 80%), their cultural assimilation to host societies & their contribution to adopted countries seem to corroborate Einstein’s claim: If it were not for antisemitism, Jews would have dispersed like leaves in the wind.

    So, antisemitic world-view is a rigid dogma which cannot, due to emotional investment of an antisemite, be challenged in the real world.

    b) conspiratorial antisemites see them as an incredibly powerful monolithic bloc, something that also defies reason. Jews are one of those “great little nations”, one which has acquired influence, prosperity & power on the wings of German cultural dominance from early 19th C on, and later in the US (mostly after WW II, if we exclude Hollywood). They have been very creative & influential in past, say, 150 years. But, so have been other ethnicities, in various fields & different periods. Life goes up & down. Conspiracy minded people attribute to Jews many historical & cultural currents/events where they’d been present, but were not the decisive factor: Communist revolution in Russian empire 1917; control of “international banking” (influential-yes, controlling-no); subversion of dominant morality through counter-culture of the 60s (nobody “planned” that); then, Frankfurt school myth (virtually all who write about so called Cultural Marxism do not know what this school of thought was about).

    c) diabolical antisemitism sees Jews as a kind of cancer, or non-human colony of parasitic swarm which will suck out life from the host-victim & move on, leaving a carcass. They are, according to this world-view, incarnation of Ahriman/Satan.

    Needless to say, I disagree with all these ideas. First, I don’t consider Jewish people of Jewish ancestry, but not identity (Marx was a German of Jewish extraction & not a Jew); I don’t see them as a monolithic body; I don’t see them as negatively predisposed toward the West- on the contrary, most Jews (not just French, Italians, ..of (wholly or partially) Jewish ancestry) are productive & valuable citizens, and they do not conspire to overthrow the Western civilization (or Christianity); US neo-conservative imperialist adventures were not “engineered” by “Jews”-anyone with a minimum amount of brain cells cannot seriously think that Cheney or Rumsfeld were puppets of some Jewish conspiracy.

    It is true that a part of them- I’d say 10-20% are Jewish nationalists & actually foreigners in countries where they reside- but, they do not “rule” anywhere in the world. They don’t rule in any European country; nor in China, nor in India; nor in Japan; nor in Russia; nor, for that matter, in the USA.

    As for Brazil- how can a country where blacks tend to rise well over 50% & where PC discourse is gaining foot, avoid collapse in a foreseeable future?

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    You make a lot of good points, and I'd mostly agree regarding some of the more extreme authors here (e.g. Andrew Joyce), but I can't agree with this:

    US neo-conservative imperialist adventures were not “engineered” by “Jews”-anyone with a minimum amount of brain cells cannot seriously think that Cheney or Rumsfeld were puppets of some Jewish conspiracy.
     
    The existence of a powerful Zionist lobby in the US is a fact, this isn't even a "conspiracy theory" given how open it is with organizations like AIPAC, or with influential Jewish donors like Sheldon Adelson (who suggested dropping a nuke in the Iranian desert as a means of "diplomacy"), Bernard Marcus ("Iran is the devil") and Paul Singer having close access to the US president and seeking to influence US Mideast policy (e.g. see here: https://lobelog.com/are-billionaire-donors-driving-trumps-iran-policy/ ). Nor does it seem unreasonable to suspect that neoconservatives' obsession with the Mideast and with countering and overthrowing certain regimes in that region has something to do with the fact that many of those neoconservatives are Jews. Sure enough, these aren't the only reasons for America's foreign policy misadventures, a sense of global mission and a tendency for interventionism have deep roots in US history, but the specific form US foreign policy, especially regarding the Mideast, has taken over the last 50-60 years can't really be explained without taking into account the influence of Zionist lobbyism in the US imo.

    I also disagree with this:


    I am not talking about Arab-Islamic world, because the term “antisemitism” does not apply to Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is simply clash of two nationalisms
     
    It's true that in a sense this is merely a clash between two nationalisms and a conflict over control of territory, like many others. But at least for much of the Islamic world (and probably also for some of the religious nutters in Israel) it's probably much more than that, a genuinely religious conflict which is about following God's will, which makes any form of compromise impossible.
    Regarding Brazil: don't know, sounds maybe somewhat too pessimistic to me.
    , @Dante Ardenz
    Brandon Kaldian your comment as a Jewish apologist shows the effectivess of the PC lines the Jew led Society taught . You repeat them well . You only know the material , " rational" , and think " logical lines. Your comments hold the Jews up as just another " people ". Absurd ! They are only .1 percent of world population. Yet the media ,culture , religion focuses on them 100 percent of the time ! They admit this power with bragging about ," Jewish Century" etc . Nor is the Palestinian / Israeli conflict NOT " two Nationalisms conflicting ". Marx came from a long line of Rabbis . International Jewry ,inspired by their exclusive diety YAHWEH who they are " a Chosen People of " , who's divine attributes are " jealousy", lies ," by deception thou shall do war " , and " Genocide " , " I am a vengeful God " , promised his stateless tribe Caanan . He promised them rule of this planet from there . Not by mass ,or numbers but material gain. The original Palestinian population accepted a Jewish presence after the Romans finally kicked the Jews out in 70 AD . But as the " Eternal Jew " , conspired through the ages to subvert the Gentile World , through Finance Capitalism / Usury / Marxism ,which creates a Left / Right mechanism of rule ,they cannot allow Palastinian to have any right by divine mandate. Jews demand tolerance but have no " tolerance " of others .
    , @daniel le mouche
    'but, they do not “rule” anywhere in the world. They don’t rule in any European country; nor in China, nor in India; nor in Japan; nor in Russia; nor, for that matter, in the USA.'

    I think I get it: 'rule' in quotes, ha ha.
    But to control the economy, higher ed, politics (who gets elected, all candidates paying homage to AIPAC), Hollywood, all media,youth and the shaping of their minds through several obvious methods, the 'national discourse'--i.e., THE MIND--it seems FAIRLY PLAIN, is to control the people, hence the country.
    It's all old hat to these political scientists, but with extremely deadly (to the mind and soul) modern methods, technology, techniques and weaponry.
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  77. anarchyst says:
    @Renoman
    If it helps these poor kids cope with living in a freak show what's the harm? There will always be questionable circumstances but I can see many situations being worse, Daddy's a wife beater, Mom's a Junkie etc. In the long list of miseries having Gay parents seems pretty far down the list to me. Just let em be.

    Children in homosexual households are starting to speak out that “something was missing” in their lives–a heterosexual parent of the opposite sex. Of course, the homosexual movement will attempt to stamp out any truth about their deviant behavior resulting from their sordid lifestyle, just as they are successfully doing, making “conversion therapy” illegal in a number of states.

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  78. Alden says:
    @jilles dykstra
    A Turkish harem was not for orgies.
    If a girl there had sex once in the time she was there she was the exception.
    I suppose one can see harems as rich people now collect antique cars, and, of course, it was seen as an honour to have one's daughter in the harem.
    That they did not bore themselves to death there surprises me.
    Nevertheless, when there was the revolution, the Sultan removed, the harem girls were told they were free, they did not know where to go, or what to do.

    The harem women belonging to the sultan were sent back to their families after the revolution.

    It’s true that the women in the big harems often didn’t see the master much.

    But the average man who had 2 or 3 wives and several slave women had regular sex with all of them.

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  79. @Bardon Kaldian
    It is not antisemitic in any reasonable sense of the word (ignoring loony Jewish snowflakes), because:

    a) essentialist antisemites see Jews as an alien & unassimilable "race", inimical to the West by default (I am not talking about Arab-Islamic world, because the term "antisemitism" does not apply to Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is simply clash of two nationalisms). Empirical data don't bear them out: high levels of Jewish intermarriage with non-Jews (in Weimar Germany 25%-40%, in contemporary Russia perhaps 80%), their cultural assimilation to host societies & their contribution to adopted countries seem to corroborate Einstein's claim: If it were not for antisemitism, Jews would have dispersed like leaves in the wind.

    So, antisemitic world-view is a rigid dogma which cannot, due to emotional investment of an antisemite, be challenged in the real world.

    b) conspiratorial antisemites see them as an incredibly powerful monolithic bloc, something that also defies reason. Jews are one of those "great little nations", one which has acquired influence, prosperity & power on the wings of German cultural dominance from early 19th C on, and later in the US (mostly after WW II, if we exclude Hollywood). They have been very creative & influential in past, say, 150 years. But, so have been other ethnicities, in various fields & different periods. Life goes up & down. Conspiracy minded people attribute to Jews many historical & cultural currents/events where they'd been present, but were not the decisive factor: Communist revolution in Russian empire 1917; control of "international banking" (influential-yes, controlling-no); subversion of dominant morality through counter-culture of the 60s (nobody "planned" that); then, Frankfurt school myth (virtually all who write about so called Cultural Marxism do not know what this school of thought was about).

    c) diabolical antisemitism sees Jews as a kind of cancer, or non-human colony of parasitic swarm which will suck out life from the host-victim & move on, leaving a carcass. They are, according to this world-view, incarnation of Ahriman/Satan.

    Needless to say, I disagree with all these ideas. First, I don't consider Jewish people of Jewish ancestry, but not identity (Marx was a German of Jewish extraction & not a Jew); I don't see them as a monolithic body; I don't see them as negatively predisposed toward the West- on the contrary, most Jews (not just French, Italians, ..of (wholly or partially) Jewish ancestry) are productive & valuable citizens, and they do not conspire to overthrow the Western civilization (or Christianity); US neo-conservative imperialist adventures were not "engineered" by "Jews"-anyone with a minimum amount of brain cells cannot seriously think that Cheney or Rumsfeld were puppets of some Jewish conspiracy.

    It is true that a part of them- I'd say 10-20% are Jewish nationalists & actually foreigners in countries where they reside- but, they do not "rule" anywhere in the world. They don't rule in any European country; nor in China, nor in India; nor in Japan; nor in Russia; nor, for that matter, in the USA.

    As for Brazil- how can a country where blacks tend to rise well over 50% & where PC discourse is gaining foot, avoid collapse in a foreseeable future?

    You make a lot of good points, and I’d mostly agree regarding some of the more extreme authors here (e.g. Andrew Joyce), but I can’t agree with this:

    US neo-conservative imperialist adventures were not “engineered” by “Jews”-anyone with a minimum amount of brain cells cannot seriously think that Cheney or Rumsfeld were puppets of some Jewish conspiracy.

    The existence of a powerful Zionist lobby in the US is a fact, this isn’t even a “conspiracy theory” given how open it is with organizations like AIPAC, or with influential Jewish donors like Sheldon Adelson (who suggested dropping a nuke in the Iranian desert as a means of “diplomacy”), Bernard Marcus (“Iran is the devil”) and Paul Singer having close access to the US president and seeking to influence US Mideast policy (e.g. see here: https://lobelog.com/are-billionaire-donors-driving-trumps-iran-policy/ ). Nor does it seem unreasonable to suspect that neoconservatives’ obsession with the Mideast and with countering and overthrowing certain regimes in that region has something to do with the fact that many of those neoconservatives are Jews. Sure enough, these aren’t the only reasons for America’s foreign policy misadventures, a sense of global mission and a tendency for interventionism have deep roots in US history, but the specific form US foreign policy, especially regarding the Mideast, has taken over the last 50-60 years can’t really be explained without taking into account the influence of Zionist lobbyism in the US imo.

    I also disagree with this:

    I am not talking about Arab-Islamic world, because the term “antisemitism” does not apply to Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is simply clash of two nationalisms

    It’s true that in a sense this is merely a clash between two nationalisms and a conflict over control of territory, like many others. But at least for much of the Islamic world (and probably also for some of the religious nutters in Israel) it’s probably much more than that, a genuinely religious conflict which is about following God’s will, which makes any form of compromise impossible.
    Regarding Brazil: don’t know, sounds maybe somewhat too pessimistic to me.

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    The existence of a powerful Zionist lobby in the US is a fact, this isn’t even a “conspiracy theory” given how open it is with organizations like AIPAC, or with influential Jewish donors like Sheldon Adelson (who suggested dropping a nuke in the Iranian desert as a means of “diplomacy”), Bernard Marcus (“Iran is the devil”) and Paul Singer having close access to the US president and seeking to influence US Mideast policy (e.g. see here: https://lobelog.com/are-billionaire-donors-driving-trumps-iran-policy/ ). Nor does it seem unreasonable to suspect that neoconservatives’ obsession with the Mideast and with countering and overthrowing certain regimes in that region has something to do with the fact that many of those neoconservatives are Jews. Sure enough, these aren’t the only reasons for America’s foreign policy misadventures, a sense of global mission and a tendency for interventionism have deep roots in US history, but the specific form US foreign policy, especially regarding the Mideast, has taken over the last 50-60 years can’t really be explained without taking into account the influence of Zionist lobbyism in the US imo.
     
    It would be too long to address all the issues you've mentioned in detail, so: Jews mentioned here are catalysts, not decision makers. In some respects (not all) neo-con Jewish position is similar to that of Jewish Bolsheviks- they (Zinoviev, Kamenev (a half Jew), Trotsky,..) were crucial in implementation of Bolshevik policy & revolution, but they did not change history- Lenin, ethnic Russian, did. Leszek Kolakowski, in the 2nd vol. of his magisterial "Main Currents of Marxism" ( http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=BB2E75551B7024ED68EBEF61DA8E478F ) has given a fine analysis of these events. Without Lenin, both as theorist & leader, Communist coup & later revolution wouldn't have happened. Jewish Bolsheviks- along with other "ethnic" leaders like Stalin- were too wobbly at this crucial juncture of history.

    So, although Bolshevism is fundamentally different from Neo-Conservatism, in both cases Jews (whether "nationalist" or "internationalist") were catalysts & not the decision makers.


    It’s true that in a sense this is merely a clash between two nationalisms and a conflict over control of territory, like many others. But at least for much of the Islamic world (and probably also for some of the religious nutters in Israel) it’s probably much more than that, a genuinely religious conflict which is about following God’s will, which makes any form of compromise impossible.
     
    True, but this is not (on the Islamist side) antisemitism, but a combination of nationalism (Arabs) & religious anti-Western ideology (most non-Arab Muslims).
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  80. Nazi bullshit.

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  81. renfro says:
    @jacques sheete

    Jewish intellectuals have, in recent decades, pushed the idea that nativist and/or anti-Jewish attitudes are on a par with a highly infectious disease —
     
    Intellectuals? The little pishers' intellectualism is as fraudulent as it is celebrated. It's mostly juvenile garbage.

    So they believe that anti-Jewish attitudes are diseases?

    Strange ,or maybe not, coming from an evidently paranoid cliquish group with many obsessions; exclusion, subjugation and humiliation of goyim foremost among them. Far from being "a highly infectious disease," anti-goy attitudes seem to be considered necessary for health, indeed life. What a primitive mindset!

    I've long been astonished that what feel toward us they see in us. The crackpot narcissism involved with G-d's "Chosen" ones is beyond both belief and description.

    How do healthy people, few of whom have the slightest clue about the depth of the craziness, deal with such mind boggling insanity?

    Intellectuals? The little pishers’ intellectualism is as fraudulent as it is celebrated. It’s mostly juvenile garbage.

    When I picture a Jewish intellectual I see a 14 year old mentality bent over his thesaurus…….mistakenly thinking verbosity and esoteric words will make people think he’s intellectual.

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  82. Corvinus says:
    @Bubba
    This doesn't surprise me. With the exception of 3 years, the American Federation of Teachers Union has been controlled by the Bolshevik (((non-Goyim))) far longer than the (((Federal Reserve))), but less than (((Hollywood))).

    “With the exception of 3 years, the American Federation of Teachers Union has been controlled by the Bolshevik…”

    A product of Alt-Right indoctrination.

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    Cuck.
    , @Bubba
    LOL! The truth hurts so you neocons, BLM millennials & liberals can only resort to cry “racist!” You twits can’t even think for yourselves! Grow up and take a non-PC history and logic class. I’m a paleoconservative and things have never looked better for us in over 45 years. You millennials are in for a lifetime of troubles and as the black kids say, ‘It’s about to get real. ” Real bad that is for you. Lots of luck with your Gender Queer Study degrees and loaded with $100K+ in undischargeable debt! You’re going to be mugged by reality very shortly there boy.
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  83. Bubba says:
    @Backwoods bob
    I've written hundreds of them. Now our kids write a story every day in their second language, at six and eight years old. You can bang out a story in minutes, and it has your own kids' names in it along with mommy and daddy, their dog, family and friends, heros, arch criminals like the Clintons - whatever you want. You can paste illustrations, maps, your own pictures, etc.

    I know parents who spend ghastly $ on books and amazing amounts of time pawing through the asinine PC selections when you can just write your own virtually for free. The retards at the government school down the road are 11 years behind our eight year old in reading ability and seven years behind our six year old. But they know a penis goes in your rear end.

    Stupidity plus perversion - what's not to love about PC literature and education?

    Great comment! Thank you sir!

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  84. @AaronB
    Ok, I don't see anything to object to in your comment. I substantially agree with it.

    Your comment, in my eyes, successfully challenges McDonald's theory of group evolutionary strategy, but I never saw McDonald's theory as anything other than a useful metaphor trying to make sense of a confusing set of facts, as all such neat tidy narratives inevitably are, and should be taken with a grain of salt.

    But you seem to agree that a substantial portion of self identified Jews defines themselves as being at war with white gentiles, whom they regard as ancestral enemies, and this dramatically affects their interactions with whites, both consciously and unconsciousl. As indeed, how could it not.

    Your opposition seems confined to the more radical claims of those you term conspiratorial anti-semites, who paint with too broad a brush, lack nuance, see in terms of "essences", etc.

    All of that makes a great deal of sense and I'm largely in agreement.

    Not being a genetic determinist myself, I don't subscribe to McDonald's theories. However, I do think he's performed a valuable service in providing a remarkably detailed and accurate analysis of the psychology of a significant portion of the Jewish population, and formulating a comprehensive theory that while lacking in nuance nevertheless provides a useful lens through which to view an elusive subject.

    So - your criticisms of him are correct, but he has value.

    Finally, I'd like to point out that your analysis of Jews presents their behavior as stemming from a sense of radical insecurity. While this is true, and generates a tremendous amount of psychic energy , the other side of the coin is the Jewish drive for supremacy and dominance, which is implicit in Jewish culture, and the envy and resentment they feel towards whites and Christians. Another factor that should not be ignored is Jewish cultures valorization of wealth and contempt for the poor man - and money leads to many a crime.

    But overall, your comment seems fair.

    But you seem to agree that a substantial portion of self identified Jews defines themselves as being at war with white gentiles, whom they regard as ancestral enemies, and this dramatically affects their interactions with whites, both consciously and unconsciousl. As indeed, how could it not.

    History is what hurts. They are, historically, a middle-Eastern religious-cultural people living among Europeans (I won’t elaborate on the US or on their history in Ummayad, Abbasid, Cordovan caliphates or Ottoman empire). They’re-historically- foreigners, like Gypsies. But, unlike Gypsies: a) they are not so “racially” alien, b) they have been reshaped & reconfigured in various European/Christian countries & have become Italians, Germans, Poles, Russians, French,… Simply, hard-core Jewish nationalists & identitarians truly are aliens & sometimes enemies. But, this is a small minority. Most of them, even those with ethnic-cultural identity are not inimical aliens. Why would any reasonable European or Euro-American see them & their worship of their middle-Eastern variant of Zeus as something intrinsically dangerous to our identity is beyond me.

    MacDonald sees them as “eternal aliens” & eternal enemies. He’s ahistorical, tendentious & mostly wrong.

    Not being a genetic determinist myself, I don’t subscribe to McDonald’s theories. However, I do think he’s performed a valuable service in providing a remarkably detailed and accurate analysis of the psychology of a significant portion of the Jewish population, and formulating a comprehensive theory that while lacking in nuance nevertheless provides a useful lens through which to view an elusive subject.

    So – your criticisms of him are correct, but he has value.

    MacDonald has shed light on some interesting topics like history of Marranos or early Greek anti-Judaism, but he’s wrong or tendentious on many topics. For instance:

    a) he pictures them as eternally warring against Europeans, race/identity-wise. In fact, nothing like that ever existed: Greek anti-Judaism is a combination of antipathy toward Asian religious tribalists who want to remain separate, like many Algerians in contemporary France (hence perception of Hebrew misanthropy) & normal economic competition (not for some imaginary resources, this is MacDonald’s ludicrous invention); Roman wars against them in 1st & 2nd C AD have nothing “antisemitic” in them (bloody national uprising against the empire has to be crushed, sorry Judeans, you miscalculated); Christian anti-Judaism is a completely different matter, since Christianity is a rejuvenated Zoroastrianism with a smattering of properly Hebrew practices & Greek ideologies- odium theologicum, present in Christian anti-Jewish polemic, is basically import from the East, because core West had never been characterized by religious fanaticism in that sense or intensity; social-Darwinian anti-Semitism is, on the other hand, a new, 19th C nationalist blood-and-soil ideology.

    And for MacDonald, it is, more or less, the same. This is a complete lack of historical perspective.

    Then, he is tendentious. MacDonald presents Spanish conversos/Marranos from 15th and 16th C as ethnically-racially homogeneous group. A part of them must have stayed that way- it is perfectly natural that forcibly converted people (who had already possessed their written culture & rituals) will adopt chameleon-like behavior. So did Moriscos, forcibly converted Muslim Arabs. In fact, they had to be ethnically cleansed, all of them. So, it’s not about specific Jewish traits; it is about religious violence & natural resistance of people who had found themselves on the receiving end of pressure for religious conformity. MacDonald implies that many, perhaps most Marranos succeeded in surviving Inquisition in next 2-3 centuries. But, if we are to believe chronicles & modern haplotype investigations, ca. 10% of Spaniards have J haplogroup, therefore possible Jewish ancestry.

    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

    So, after all, some, but not most Marranos have succeeded to retain their identity & emigrate later to the Netherlands or Ottoman empire.

    Conspicuously, MacDonald has glossed over the fact that most Jewish Germans in the 19th C had been assimilated with high percentage of intermarriage. Marranos in 16th C did-at least a part of them-tried to retain their separate identity. Not so in early 19th C Germany, where many Jews had voluntarily been baptized & completely assimilated into German society-no Jewish separatism & tribal behavior. No “Jewish Christian” secret societies, clannish behavior, endogamous marriages…
    Mendelssohn family simply disappeared among other Germans.

    How so if they’re eternally alien ethnic group? Where I can see that famous survival strategy? This “strategy”, it seems, leads only to obliteration of a separate national identity.

    And to write on MacDonald’s omissions & simply misconceptions (Communism, national question, Freud, Frankfurt school…) would take us too far. MacDonald is clueless re these movements.

    Finally, I’d like to point out that your analysis of Jews presents their behavior as stemming from a sense of radical insecurity. While this is true, and generates a tremendous amount of psychic energy , the other side of the coin is the Jewish drive for supremacy and dominance, which is implicit in Jewish culture, and the envy and resentment they feel towards whites and Christians. Another factor that should not be ignored is Jewish cultures valorization of wealth and contempt for the poor man – and money leads to many a crime.

    This is not that simple.

    1. their perverted behavior in post-WW II is one of the consequences of the genocide. If we treat them as deeply traumatized patients, we’ll be nearer to truth. No group of people who had passed through, as a collective, what they’ve been through from 1933-1945 can, in my opinion, recover from that experience. They, ethnic Jews, live in the state of permanent trauma.

    2. their drive is not for dominance, but for security & freedom to continue their (religious) culture. They have been philanthropists for their co-religionists, but in past century or so, they’ve been more active in universalist humanist philanthrophy & various “progressive” movements (why else their involvement with NAACP and activism during Civil rights era?).

    In sum- they are not a monolith; they are a historical entity, growing & diminishing; judging from past half a century or so, they will be swallowed by assimilation (except in Israel), because in post-modern world it is impossible to retain ethnic individuality if you’re lost all other distinctive traits & defense mechanisms polarizing you against your neighbors.

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    1. their perverted behavior in post-WW II is one of the consequences of the genocide. If we treat them as deeply traumatized patients, we’ll be nearer to truth. No group of people who had passed through, as a collective, what they’ve been through from 1933-1945 can, in my opinion, recover from that experience. They, ethnic Jews, live in the state of permanent trauma.
     
    The trauma excuse is well past its sell date.

    2. their drive is not for dominance, but for security & freedom to continue their (religious) culture. They have been philanthropists for their co-religionists, but in past century or so, they’ve been more active in universalist humanist philanthrophy & various “progressive” movements (why else their involvement with NAACP and activism during Civil rights era?).
     
    The fact is that in every case where the Jews were expelled from a nation, often under conditions of great suffering, within a few years, the Jews have returned. One can find no parallel in the historical records of other groups, this strange compulsion, this incredible persistence in putting their heads into the lion's mouth again and again.

    So why did the Jews do this? What are they doing living in the midst of the gentiles? The Jews at various times, particularly in Russia, were given land and territory to build their own Jewish ruled entity--but they failed and ran back to the cities to become merchants in the gentiles areas.
    The Jews always roamed the civilized world, seeking any spot where they could settle down in the midst of an established community, and where they could prosper at the expense of others by appropriating what they had built.

    Quite simply the Jews could not exist without the gentiles and their civilizations .
    Israel is a perfect example of this and the hypocrisy of Jewishness----supposedly a country built by Jews to separate themselves from gentiles in order to be safe----it is totally dependent on gentiles and the gentile world for its existence.

    Even separate it and they are still parasitic.

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    What genocide?
    , @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    10% of Spaniards have J haplogroup, therefore possible Jewish ancestry.
     
    J haplogroup Jewish ancestry

    It has about the same relationship with being Jewish as an American birth certificate, not much more, not much less.
    , @AaronB
    I agree with you that McDonald is ahistorical. An essentialist, by definition, deals in timeless essences and must disregard the flux of history. I also don't t see white creativity of the modern period or more recent white universalism and altruism as timeless essences.

    All such theories are farcical and must simply ignore the historical record to create comforting certainties. It's a search for an anchor in an unstable world. Understandable, but stupid.

    So I'm quite prepared to agree with you that Jews are not a monolithic group with an unchanging character the majority of whose members are locked in a timeless war against Europeans, sort of like the gods and giants of Norse mythology.

    However, I have significant disagreements with you. I think a much larger segment of jews see themselves as at war then you do, and I think you paint Jewish motivations far too benign a light and underplay - or are perhaps ignorant of - the sinister aspects of jewish culture and religion, which I am only all too acquainted with.

    WW2 cannot be a significant factor in Jewish behavior as this behavior antedates it. The literary and historical record shows a striking unanimity in descriptions of jewish behavior from at least a few hundred years back. While the Holocaust is obviously indefensible, it was a reaction to Jewish behavior, just as Pearl Harbor was not just a spontaneous attack by the nefarious japanese. To see it otherwise is to think in essentialist and Manichean terms, just with the bad guys and good guys reversed.

    Also, the majority of American jews had no experience of the Holocaust. I have Jewish friends who are fifth generation Americans, wealthy and secure, who fulfill anti-Semitic stereotypes of two hundred years ago to a tee. Enough of these experiences make you pause and think.

    Jewish religious and cultural texts indisputably contain Jewish supremacist ideas and essentialist Manichean hostility towards non Jews of exactly the sort you condemn elsewhere. This is simply a matter of record and easily demonstrated. I hear this kind of talk around the dinner table every time I visit my childhood Jewish friends. It's appaling, and its foolish to think this atmosphere has no effect even on secular jews.

    As for the drive for supremacy and dominance, this is found in many cultures. It seems special pleading to excuse jews from this basic human trait in principle. Europeans manifested this drive heavily in the modern period. And again, a simple appeal to Jewish cultural texts can resolve the matter, as well as even a casual acquaintance with modern Jewish attitudes. Jewish ambition is proverbial, and in in a country where at the topmost IQ levels jews are outnumbered eight to one it defies belief to see Jewish dominance in so many key fields as based on merit of as a mere accident.

    Of course, there is a sense in which all drive for supremacy and dominance is based on insecurity and fear, and I like to make this point all the time. And this applies to both jews and Europeans.

    And not being essentialists, we must view the drive for supremacy as subject to the cyclical nature of history, and manifest now in one people and now another, and not be a permanent feature of any one group, but always subject to the historical flux.

    And indeed I believe the most useful way to view modern jews is to see them as in their "empire" phase, a phase which cannot last. Corresponding with this or deriving from it, modern Jews have an incredibly dysfunctional culture of ambition, which creates incredible pressure and leads to abusive practices and much suffering, where one feels worthless in the eyes of one's community if one isn't wealthy or powerful.

    Finally, the Jewish attitude to money deserves special mention - it is utterly unlike the attitude of Catholics or Muslims, Buddhists or Hindus. Its closest analogues are with certain protestant sets and Mormons.

    In summary, Jewish culture is in urgent need of serious reform, and as it stands encourages many negative traits. This is hardly unique to jews, of course. But neither can we view their culture in a benign light.

    Now, this all adds up to a picture which, to my mind, paints jews as deserving of pity but also as a dangerous group that any host culture would be wise to be aware of and devise protections against, as not essentially bad but as being in a bad phase of their historical cycle, and as ultimately human and redeemable as the rest of us, but as the group who today most represents ego and materialism, and as such disproportionately responsible for most social ills that afflicts us today.

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  85. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra
    You remind me of Churchill's scientific adviser prof Lindemann, phycisist, who, when British radar detected the VII flights, up to 80 km height, said it was impossible.
    Not until if I remember correctly Poles put the remains of a missile into a British plane, a hazardous flight, did the British discover that the Germans could pump liquid oxygen, that was also used to cool the combustion chamber.

    Rudel already in the 1956 edition of his book mentions that Hitler wanted him to drop an atomic bomb on the Ural hydro electric installations, in order to stop USSR tank production.
    Hitler therefore forbade him to fly any more, he was Germany's best pilot.
    Hans-Ulrich Rudel, ´Mein Kriegstagebuch, Aufzeichnungen eines Stukafliegers’, 1983, 2006 Dresden
    On the Prague airport two planes, that had been adapted to carry the hydrogen bomb, a sphere of about a metre in diameter, were ready.
    Villagers near the test site witnessed huge explosions.
    Secretaries saw prototypes.
    A physicist confirms that it is physically possible to cause hydrogen fusion with ordinary explosives.
    But the technique apparently is so difficult that just a few tests succeeded.

    But of course, without reading the book you know best.
    It is quite possible that Hitler fought on as long as possible in the hope that the bomb would become operational.

    Try to imagine what a few VII's dropping hydrogen bombs would do.

    When Hitler visited Peenemünde he said to Dornberger that he was one of the two men in Germany had to make apologies to.
    I long wondered who was the second
    Walter Dornberger, Peenemünde, Die Geschichte der V-Waffen, Esslingen 1981, 2003

    Yep, you’re still making stuff up. Got witchcraft?

    We’re still waiting for the massive physical proof that your laughable ‘German atomic bomb explosion’ would necessarily create in it’s wake.

    It’s really just more of the ‘Nazi Derangement Syndrome’ found in mentally unstable Jews & neo-Marxists. Pure lunacy.

    Your claim does fit in ncely here:
    ‘Most laughable claims’ : https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9837

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.
    http://www.codoh.com

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  86. renfro says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they're here to corrupt us.

    I can't say much about children literature, but Joyce's imagined connection of Jews with pornography is simply absurd. It seems that the author doesn't know much about European tradition of eroticism, orgiastic sexuality & "perversions". In this world-view, dirty middle-Eastern hooked nosed Semitic deviants are, following their "group evolutionary strategy" (which is as real as phlogiston or Nessie), perpetually trying to subvert our august morality.

    So then-what about Roman orgies? Did the author read Tacitus' "Annals", chapters on Tiberius, Nero,.. Or Suetonius ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Caesars )? Or, later authors like Pietro Aretino, John Cleland, Marquis de Sade (the king of all depravities),... up to pansexual maniac of heroic Victorian age, Richard Francis Burton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton ) & all the rest.

    Or prince Kropotkin's autobiography, where the father of anarchism writes on massive orgies among graduates of Russian military academy that would put to shame Mesopotamian & Babylonian sexual excesses.

    Or the fact that the most vigorous & promiscuous Hollyweirdos have always been "Aryans" (Clare Bow, Mae West, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable, Joan Crawford, Bette Davis,...up to Nicholson and Beatty).

    Of course there were (and are) pornographers & lechers among Jews (for instance, Felix Salten, the author of "Bambi"), but to pin down porn imagination & activity on Jews is just- preposterous.

    This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they’re here to corrupt us

    People have been making the same complaints about Jews for 2000 years.

    So …are we to believe that the peoples of 100′s of countries that expelled Jews thru out history were all wrong or lying or infected with the anti-Semitism disease?

    And the Jews were the only people on earth never guilty of anything?

    That is the meme they promote—but good luck getting anyone in their right mind to believe there exist on earth a special group of humans incapable of wrong doing. It’s absurd.

    Anti-Semitism throughout history has been the reaction of the gentiles to the deeds of the Jews in their midst.

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    People have been making the same complaints about Jews for 2000 years.
     
    No.


    So …are we to believe that the peoples of 100′s of countries that expelled Jews thru out history were all wrong or lying or infected with the anti-Semitism disease?
     
    Most countries through history never expelled Jews (Hellenic Empires, Roman Empire, Parthian Empire, Sassanian Empire, Abbasid Caliphate, Cordoba Caliphate, Vatican City, Polish-Lithuanian kingdom, ...). Jews were kicked out from ca. 1100 to 1400 from numerous local kingdoms due to combination of intensification of religious fanaticism, financial depredations of early monarchs & their precarious position of middlemen which made them vulnerable to various superstitious accusations.


    And the Jews were the only people on earth never guilty of anything?
     
    Nonsense not deserving answer.


    That is the meme they promote—but good luck getting anyone in their right mind to believe there exist on earth a special group of humans incapable of wrong doing. It’s absurd.
     
    Finally, a truth. To think that- this is really absurd.

    Anti-Semitism throughout history has been the reaction of the gentiles to the deeds of the Jews in their midst.
     
    How come only during parts of European history, say from 1000 to 1600, it was a significant force, and only in Europe? Not in Iran. Not in Maghreb. Not in Egypt. Not in Poland. Not in Italy.

    Why did the Dutch & Cromwell's England invite them back?

    But-this is a waste of time. Who wants to learn something, let him consult books.
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  87. Corvinus says:
    @Mark Green
    Excellent article. Meticulous. Penetrating. Well researched. Andrew Joyce never disappoints.

    “A great deal of Jewish radical activism in the cultural sphere comes under the umbrella of the general relationship between Jews and the Left.”

    The author in typical fashion makes an overblown generalization. He wants to make it appear that Americans in particular seem to fall victim to snake oil salesmen. But, Americans in general do not take seriously believe the primary purpose of Jews is to infiltrate their sense of decency through children’s education and culture.

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    The author in typical fashion makes an overblown generalization.
     
    No. However you - in typical fashion - spew a bunch of squid-ink.

    How do you explain Ms. Newman's penchant for advocating non-traditional lesbian familes for goys ( 'Heather' has two mommies - Jane and Kate ) whereas her jewish stories portray traditional jewish families - it's all Mom and the Torah and Apple Latkes. How do YOU explain that, schmuck?
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  88. @Anonymous
    “Government school”? That generally means the public gets to have a school of their own choosing. The attacks on public schools are from whom exacty?

    ‘My kids are way ahead’ Way ahead how? Way ahead what?

    Are you retarded? Have you heard of a “test” before? There are boatloads of reading tests online for free and the results for the government school down the road are posted every year. We compare them.

    You can’t even formulate a coherent sentence. One thing my kids are learning to handle is dealing with people that are so stupid they have no self-awareness. Like you. You don’t understand how stupid you are, and think we’re the stupid ones, since you can’t even conceive how to measure something like reading ability.

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  89. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art
    it is worth recalling Newman’s description of herself and Gover not as feminists or lesbians, but as “fierce Jewish women”

    Jew women have a lot of anger in them. Jewish women have it in for Jewish men. Traditionally, Jewish women were second class to men. Jew men treated them badly. Jew men are never faithful in marriage.

    These Jew women having one set of values for themselves as Jews, and another for Gentiles is endemic of the whole Jew question.

    The unspoken victims of all this horndogging by wealthy Jewish men are their wives, who have to sit home and quietly endure it. It’s not even grounds for divorce under traditional Jewish law, as consorting with shiksas does not count as adultery.

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  90. renfro says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    But you seem to agree that a substantial portion of self identified Jews defines themselves as being at war with white gentiles, whom they regard as ancestral enemies, and this dramatically affects their interactions with whites, both consciously and unconsciousl. As indeed, how could it not.
     
    History is what hurts. They are, historically, a middle-Eastern religious-cultural people living among Europeans (I won't elaborate on the US or on their history in Ummayad, Abbasid, Cordovan caliphates or Ottoman empire). They're-historically- foreigners, like Gypsies. But, unlike Gypsies: a) they are not so "racially" alien, b) they have been reshaped & reconfigured in various European/Christian countries & have become Italians, Germans, Poles, Russians, French,... Simply, hard-core Jewish nationalists & identitarians truly are aliens & sometimes enemies. But, this is a small minority. Most of them, even those with ethnic-cultural identity are not inimical aliens. Why would any reasonable European or Euro-American see them & their worship of their middle-Eastern variant of Zeus as something intrinsically dangerous to our identity is beyond me.

    MacDonald sees them as "eternal aliens" & eternal enemies. He's ahistorical, tendentious & mostly wrong.

    Not being a genetic determinist myself, I don’t subscribe to McDonald’s theories. However, I do think he’s performed a valuable service in providing a remarkably detailed and accurate analysis of the psychology of a significant portion of the Jewish population, and formulating a comprehensive theory that while lacking in nuance nevertheless provides a useful lens through which to view an elusive subject.

    So – your criticisms of him are correct, but he has value.
     
    MacDonald has shed light on some interesting topics like history of Marranos or early Greek anti-Judaism, but he's wrong or tendentious on many topics. For instance:

    a) he pictures them as eternally warring against Europeans, race/identity-wise. In fact, nothing like that ever existed: Greek anti-Judaism is a combination of antipathy toward Asian religious tribalists who want to remain separate, like many Algerians in contemporary France (hence perception of Hebrew misanthropy) & normal economic competition (not for some imaginary resources, this is MacDonald's ludicrous invention); Roman wars against them in 1st & 2nd C AD have nothing "antisemitic" in them (bloody national uprising against the empire has to be crushed, sorry Judeans, you miscalculated); Christian anti-Judaism is a completely different matter, since Christianity is a rejuvenated Zoroastrianism with a smattering of properly Hebrew practices & Greek ideologies- odium theologicum, present in Christian anti-Jewish polemic, is basically import from the East, because core West had never been characterized by religious fanaticism in that sense or intensity; social-Darwinian anti-Semitism is, on the other hand, a new, 19th C nationalist blood-and-soil ideology.

    And for MacDonald, it is, more or less, the same. This is a complete lack of historical perspective.

    Then, he is tendentious. MacDonald presents Spanish conversos/Marranos from 15th and 16th C as ethnically-racially homogeneous group. A part of them must have stayed that way- it is perfectly natural that forcibly converted people (who had already possessed their written culture & rituals) will adopt chameleon-like behavior. So did Moriscos, forcibly converted Muslim Arabs. In fact, they had to be ethnically cleansed, all of them. So, it's not about specific Jewish traits; it is about religious violence & natural resistance of people who had found themselves on the receiving end of pressure for religious conformity. MacDonald implies that many, perhaps most Marranos succeeded in surviving Inquisition in next 2-3 centuries. But, if we are to believe chronicles & modern haplotype investigations, ca. 10% of Spaniards have J haplogroup, therefore possible Jewish ancestry.
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
    So, after all, some, but not most Marranos have succeeded to retain their identity & emigrate later to the Netherlands or Ottoman empire.

    Conspicuously, MacDonald has glossed over the fact that most Jewish Germans in the 19th C had been assimilated with high percentage of intermarriage. Marranos in 16th C did-at least a part of them-tried to retain their separate identity. Not so in early 19th C Germany, where many Jews had voluntarily been baptized & completely assimilated into German society-no Jewish separatism & tribal behavior. No "Jewish Christian" secret societies, clannish behavior, endogamous marriages...
    Mendelssohn family simply disappeared among other Germans.

    How so if they're eternally alien ethnic group? Where I can see that famous survival strategy? This "strategy", it seems, leads only to obliteration of a separate national identity.

    And to write on MacDonald's omissions & simply misconceptions (Communism, national question, Freud, Frankfurt school...) would take us too far. MacDonald is clueless re these movements.

    Finally, I’d like to point out that your analysis of Jews presents their behavior as stemming from a sense of radical insecurity. While this is true, and generates a tremendous amount of psychic energy , the other side of the coin is the Jewish drive for supremacy and dominance, which is implicit in Jewish culture, and the envy and resentment they feel towards whites and Christians. Another factor that should not be ignored is Jewish cultures valorization of wealth and contempt for the poor man – and money leads to many a crime.
     
    This is not that simple.

    1. their perverted behavior in post-WW II is one of the consequences of the genocide. If we treat them as deeply traumatized patients, we'll be nearer to truth. No group of people who had passed through, as a collective, what they've been through from 1933-1945 can, in my opinion, recover from that experience. They, ethnic Jews, live in the state of permanent trauma.

    2. their drive is not for dominance, but for security & freedom to continue their (religious) culture. They have been philanthropists for their co-religionists, but in past century or so, they've been more active in universalist humanist philanthrophy & various "progressive" movements (why else their involvement with NAACP and activism during Civil rights era?).

    In sum- they are not a monolith; they are a historical entity, growing & diminishing; judging from past half a century or so, they will be swallowed by assimilation (except in Israel), because in post-modern world it is impossible to retain ethnic individuality if you're lost all other distinctive traits & defense mechanisms polarizing you against your neighbors.

    1. their perverted behavior in post-WW II is one of the consequences of the genocide. If we treat them as deeply traumatized patients, we’ll be nearer to truth. No group of people who had passed through, as a collective, what they’ve been through from 1933-1945 can, in my opinion, recover from that experience. They, ethnic Jews, live in the state of permanent trauma.

    The trauma excuse is well past its sell date.

    2. their drive is not for dominance, but for security & freedom to continue their (religious) culture. They have been philanthropists for their co-religionists, but in past century or so, they’ve been more active in universalist humanist philanthrophy & various “progressive” movements (why else their involvement with NAACP and activism during Civil rights era?).

    The fact is that in every case where the Jews were expelled from a nation, often under conditions of great suffering, within a few years, the Jews have returned. One can find no parallel in the historical records of other groups, this strange compulsion, this incredible persistence in putting their heads into the lion’s mouth again and again.

    So why did the Jews do this? What are they doing living in the midst of the gentiles? The Jews at various times, particularly in Russia, were given land and territory to build their own Jewish ruled entity–but they failed and ran back to the cities to become merchants in the gentiles areas.
    The Jews always roamed the civilized world, seeking any spot where they could settle down in the midst of an established community, and where they could prosper at the expense of others by appropriating what they had built.

    Quite simply the Jews could not exist without the gentiles and their civilizations .
    Israel is a perfect example of this and the hypocrisy of Jewishness—-supposedly a country built by Jews to separate themselves from gentiles in order to be safe—-it is totally dependent on gentiles and the gentile world for its existence.

    Even separate it and they are still parasitic.

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    said:
    "What are they doing living in the midst of the gentiles? The Jews at various times, particularly in Russia, were given land and territory to build their own Jewish ruled entity–but they failed and ran back to the cities to become merchants in the gentiles areas.
    The Jews always roamed the civilized world, seeking any spot where they could settle down in the midst of an established community, and where they could prosper at the expense of others by appropriating what they had built."

    "Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. According to Yosef, death has “no dominion” over non-Jews in Israel."

    -from Jonathan Cook, “Hate the Gentile!” Israel’s Racist Rabbis
     
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  91. Ok, well now that you know, what are ya gonna do about it?

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  92. @renfro

    This article shows a small, narrow mindset of a typical conspiratorial antisemite. In sum- they’re here to corrupt us
     
    People have been making the same complaints about Jews for 2000 years.

    So ...are we to believe that the peoples of 100's of countries that expelled Jews thru out history were all wrong or lying or infected with the anti-Semitism disease?

    And the Jews were the only people on earth never guilty of anything?

    That is the meme they promote---but good luck getting anyone in their right mind to believe there exist on earth a special group of humans incapable of wrong doing. It's absurd.

    Anti-Semitism throughout history has been the reaction of the gentiles to the deeds of the Jews in their midst.

    People have been making the same complaints about Jews for 2000 years.

    No.

    So …are we to believe that the peoples of 100′s of countries that expelled Jews thru out history were all wrong or lying or infected with the anti-Semitism disease?

    Most countries through history never expelled Jews (Hellenic Empires, Roman Empire, Parthian Empire, Sassanian Empire, Abbasid Caliphate, Cordoba Caliphate, Vatican City, Polish-Lithuanian kingdom, …). Jews were kicked out from ca. 1100 to 1400 from numerous local kingdoms due to combination of intensification of religious fanaticism, financial depredations of early monarchs & their precarious position of middlemen which made them vulnerable to various superstitious accusations.

    And the Jews were the only people on earth never guilty of anything?

    Nonsense not deserving answer.

    That is the meme they promote—but good luck getting anyone in their right mind to believe there exist on earth a special group of humans incapable of wrong doing. It’s absurd.

    Finally, a truth. To think that- this is really absurd.

    Anti-Semitism throughout history has been the reaction of the gentiles to the deeds of the Jews in their midst.

    How come only during parts of European history, say from 1000 to 1600, it was a significant force, and only in Europe? Not in Iran. Not in Maghreb. Not in Egypt. Not in Poland. Not in Italy.

    Why did the Dutch & Cromwell’s England invite them back?

    But-this is a waste of time. Who wants to learn something, let him consult books.

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    Obviously you have consulted the wrong history books.
    So yes you are a waste of time.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Nonsense not deserving answer.
     
    Translation: I can't answer that.
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  93. Druid says:
    @jacques sheete

    Jewish intellectuals have, in recent decades, pushed the idea that nativist and/or anti-Jewish attitudes are on a par with a highly infectious disease —
     
    Intellectuals? The little pishers' intellectualism is as fraudulent as it is celebrated. It's mostly juvenile garbage.

    So they believe that anti-Jewish attitudes are diseases?

    Strange ,or maybe not, coming from an evidently paranoid cliquish group with many obsessions; exclusion, subjugation and humiliation of goyim foremost among them. Far from being "a highly infectious disease," anti-goy attitudes seem to be considered necessary for health, indeed life. What a primitive mindset!

    I've long been astonished that what feel toward us they see in us. The crackpot narcissism involved with G-d's "Chosen" ones is beyond both belief and description.

    How do healthy people, few of whom have the slightest clue about the depth of the craziness, deal with such mind boggling insanity?

    Yup, and they are leaders in pornography, pedophilia (see Talmud), weapons manufacturing, alcohol during prohibition, drug running, big participants in slavery, etc., etc. There’s a weird sickness in the Talmudists

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  94. @jacques sheete

    Jewish intellectuals have, in recent decades, pushed the idea that nativist and/or anti-Jewish attitudes are on a par with a highly infectious disease —
     
    Intellectuals? The little pishers' intellectualism is as fraudulent as it is celebrated. It's mostly juvenile garbage.

    So they believe that anti-Jewish attitudes are diseases?

    Strange ,or maybe not, coming from an evidently paranoid cliquish group with many obsessions; exclusion, subjugation and humiliation of goyim foremost among them. Far from being "a highly infectious disease," anti-goy attitudes seem to be considered necessary for health, indeed life. What a primitive mindset!

    I've long been astonished that what feel toward us they see in us. The crackpot narcissism involved with G-d's "Chosen" ones is beyond both belief and description.

    How do healthy people, few of whom have the slightest clue about the depth of the craziness, deal with such mind boggling insanity?

    The word to use is counter-semitism

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  95. @Bardon Kaldian

    But you seem to agree that a substantial portion of self identified Jews defines themselves as being at war with white gentiles, whom they regard as ancestral enemies, and this dramatically affects their interactions with whites, both consciously and unconsciousl. As indeed, how could it not.
     
    History is what hurts. They are, historically, a middle-Eastern religious-cultural people living among Europeans (I won't elaborate on the US or on their history in Ummayad, Abbasid, Cordovan caliphates or Ottoman empire). They're-historically- foreigners, like Gypsies. But, unlike Gypsies: a) they are not so "racially" alien, b) they have been reshaped & reconfigured in various European/Christian countries & have become Italians, Germans, Poles, Russians, French,... Simply, hard-core Jewish nationalists & identitarians truly are aliens & sometimes enemies. But, this is a small minority. Most of them, even those with ethnic-cultural identity are not inimical aliens. Why would any reasonable European or Euro-American see them & their worship of their middle-Eastern variant of Zeus as something intrinsically dangerous to our identity is beyond me.

    MacDonald sees them as "eternal aliens" & eternal enemies. He's ahistorical, tendentious & mostly wrong.

    Not being a genetic determinist myself, I don’t subscribe to McDonald’s theories. However, I do think he’s performed a valuable service in providing a remarkably detailed and accurate analysis of the psychology of a significant portion of the Jewish population, and formulating a comprehensive theory that while lacking in nuance nevertheless provides a useful lens through which to view an elusive subject.

    So – your criticisms of him are correct, but he has value.
     
    MacDonald has shed light on some interesting topics like history of Marranos or early Greek anti-Judaism, but he's wrong or tendentious on many topics. For instance:

    a) he pictures them as eternally warring against Europeans, race/identity-wise. In fact, nothing like that ever existed: Greek anti-Judaism is a combination of antipathy toward Asian religious tribalists who want to remain separate, like many Algerians in contemporary France (hence perception of Hebrew misanthropy) & normal economic competition (not for some imaginary resources, this is MacDonald's ludicrous invention); Roman wars against them in 1st & 2nd C AD have nothing "antisemitic" in them (bloody national uprising against the empire has to be crushed, sorry Judeans, you miscalculated); Christian anti-Judaism is a completely different matter, since Christianity is a rejuvenated Zoroastrianism with a smattering of properly Hebrew practices & Greek ideologies- odium theologicum, present in Christian anti-Jewish polemic, is basically import from the East, because core West had never been characterized by religious fanaticism in that sense or intensity; social-Darwinian anti-Semitism is, on the other hand, a new, 19th C nationalist blood-and-soil ideology.

    And for MacDonald, it is, more or less, the same. This is a complete lack of historical perspective.

    Then, he is tendentious. MacDonald presents Spanish conversos/Marranos from 15th and 16th C as ethnically-racially homogeneous group. A part of them must have stayed that way- it is perfectly natural that forcibly converted people (who had already possessed their written culture & rituals) will adopt chameleon-like behavior. So did Moriscos, forcibly converted Muslim Arabs. In fact, they had to be ethnically cleansed, all of them. So, it's not about specific Jewish traits; it is about religious violence & natural resistance of people who had found themselves on the receiving end of pressure for religious conformity. MacDonald implies that many, perhaps most Marranos succeeded in surviving Inquisition in next 2-3 centuries. But, if we are to believe chronicles & modern haplotype investigations, ca. 10% of Spaniards have J haplogroup, therefore possible Jewish ancestry.
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
    So, after all, some, but not most Marranos have succeeded to retain their identity & emigrate later to the Netherlands or Ottoman empire.

    Conspicuously, MacDonald has glossed over the fact that most Jewish Germans in the 19th C had been assimilated with high percentage of intermarriage. Marranos in 16th C did-at least a part of them-tried to retain their separate identity. Not so in early 19th C Germany, where many Jews had voluntarily been baptized & completely assimilated into German society-no Jewish separatism & tribal behavior. No "Jewish Christian" secret societies, clannish behavior, endogamous marriages...
    Mendelssohn family simply disappeared among other Germans.

    How so if they're eternally alien ethnic group? Where I can see that famous survival strategy? This "strategy", it seems, leads only to obliteration of a separate national identity.

    And to write on MacDonald's omissions & simply misconceptions (Communism, national question, Freud, Frankfurt school...) would take us too far. MacDonald is clueless re these movements.

    Finally, I’d like to point out that your analysis of Jews presents their behavior as stemming from a sense of radical insecurity. While this is true, and generates a tremendous amount of psychic energy , the other side of the coin is the Jewish drive for supremacy and dominance, which is implicit in Jewish culture, and the envy and resentment they feel towards whites and Christians. Another factor that should not be ignored is Jewish cultures valorization of wealth and contempt for the poor man – and money leads to many a crime.
     
    This is not that simple.

    1. their perverted behavior in post-WW II is one of the consequences of the genocide. If we treat them as deeply traumatized patients, we'll be nearer to truth. No group of people who had passed through, as a collective, what they've been through from 1933-1945 can, in my opinion, recover from that experience. They, ethnic Jews, live in the state of permanent trauma.

    2. their drive is not for dominance, but for security & freedom to continue their (religious) culture. They have been philanthropists for their co-religionists, but in past century or so, they've been more active in universalist humanist philanthrophy & various "progressive" movements (why else their involvement with NAACP and activism during Civil rights era?).

    In sum- they are not a monolith; they are a historical entity, growing & diminishing; judging from past half a century or so, they will be swallowed by assimilation (except in Israel), because in post-modern world it is impossible to retain ethnic individuality if you're lost all other distinctive traits & defense mechanisms polarizing you against your neighbors.

    What genocide?

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  96. Mulegino1 says:

    The problem is not burning books. The solution is to burn the books that need to be burned, e.g.:

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  97. @jilles dykstra
    You remind me of Churchill's scientific adviser prof Lindemann, phycisist, who, when British radar detected the VII flights, up to 80 km height, said it was impossible.
    Not until if I remember correctly Poles put the remains of a missile into a British plane, a hazardous flight, did the British discover that the Germans could pump liquid oxygen, that was also used to cool the combustion chamber.

    Rudel already in the 1956 edition of his book mentions that Hitler wanted him to drop an atomic bomb on the Ural hydro electric installations, in order to stop USSR tank production.
    Hitler therefore forbade him to fly any more, he was Germany's best pilot.
    Hans-Ulrich Rudel, ´Mein Kriegstagebuch, Aufzeichnungen eines Stukafliegers’, 1983, 2006 Dresden
    On the Prague airport two planes, that had been adapted to carry the hydrogen bomb, a sphere of about a metre in diameter, were ready.
    Villagers near the test site witnessed huge explosions.
    Secretaries saw prototypes.
    A physicist confirms that it is physically possible to cause hydrogen fusion with ordinary explosives.
    But the technique apparently is so difficult that just a few tests succeeded.

    But of course, without reading the book you know best.
    It is quite possible that Hitler fought on as long as possible in the hope that the bomb would become operational.

    Try to imagine what a few VII's dropping hydrogen bombs would do.

    When Hitler visited Peenemünde he said to Dornberger that he was one of the two men in Germany had to make apologies to.
    I long wondered who was the second
    Walter Dornberger, Peenemünde, Die Geschichte der V-Waffen, Esslingen 1981, 2003

    What Polish Comic Book did you take this history from ? I have studied Jew War Two history for 40 years . Only Jew Fantasy Films would convey your content . I have every book authorized / written by Hans Rudel and know people who knew him ! No such atom bomb mission over London ever discussed by him ,and Fuhrer. Was he going to dive bomb.the device with a Stuka ? He was not qualified to fly anything bigger . Hitler had total contempt for ” Jewish Physics” , and by written ,and witness testimony had no time for atomic war. He never visited Pennemunde period . Only by film did he see Von Braun and his teams work. Churchill and his vicious Jew adviser Lindaman had nothing to do with radar study in the time frame referred to. ” Water Closet ” ,as Rothschild’s puppet Churchill was referred to when a discredited back bencher in the International Jews pay to push for war with Germany was not PM in 1939 ! Not until June of 40 , did Jewry get him appointed . This is nonsense like ,” Onto Berlin ” , painted on Polish ” tankettes ” , when the stupid Polish Military junta holding 30 Percent German population hostage over the Reichs frontier ,rejected Hitler’s alliance offer for the Jews ” guarantee ” , in London . See ,THE VIRUS HOUSE , David Irvings work on Reichs Atom bomb program, THE MARES NEST ,by David Irving ,on Pennemunde , CHURCHILL WAR ,by Irving ( Creeps Jew ruled record) , CHURCHILL & THE JEWS , Martin Gilbert . His official Jewish biograher.

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    I mentioned my sources.
    I can read german.
    Do you really think Dornberger lied about Hitler's visit to Peenemünde,
    Walter Dornberger, Peenemünde, Die Geschichte der V-Waffen, Esslingen 1981, 2003

    or that

    Rainer Karlsch, 'Hitlers Bom, Hoe Nazi-Duitsland nucleaire wapens testte in een wanhopige poging om de oorlog te winnen, Tielt, 2005 (Hitlers Bombe, München)
    is phantasy ?
    The writer visited the test site, there are pictures of the remains.
    Mussolini's envoy is mentioned by name.

    If you know every book written by Rudel you must know that Hitler forbade him to fly any more, an order he disregarded, as by far the best tank destroyer, indeed with a Stuka, fitted with two anti tank cannon.
    You then also know that when Rudel got Germany highest decoration, something with red diamonds, in the presence of Göring and others, they were jalous, Germany on the brink of collapse.
    Can it be that your translators omitted a lot ?

    Churchill, Lindemann and the impossible VII:
    R.V. Jones, ´Most secret war, British Scientific Intelligence 1939 – 1945’, 1978, 1979, London
    Jones fell in disregard by Churchill by making fun of Lindemann, saying that if the British did not know how to make a rocket, maybe the Germans knew.
    Jones presented a calculation showing that such a rocket was physically possible.

    I did read
    David Irving, ‘Hitler’s war’, Londen, 1977
    I never mentioned hydrogen bombing of London.
    What planes were ready in Prague, I do not remember now.

    What is your problem, not being able to understand that for hydrogen fusion, in fact deuterium fusion, just a very high pressure is needed ?
    This very high pression needed explains why the bomb was a sphere.
    I suppose resonance after the explosion of the conventional explosives, or successive concentional explosions was supposed to do the trick.
    The phycisist consulted by the writer was a fool ?

    That Rudel was not qualified to fly anything bigger makes me laugh, he even flew a jet fighter for fun at the end of the war, at 900 kmh, as he writes.
    As if anyone then cared about being qualified.
    As he writes 'Germany could afford to lose a jet fighter'.

    Hitler's contempt for jewish physics, therefore his second apology, is my idea.

    On German ingenuity, maybe you should read
    Steve Coates, ‘Deutsche Hubschrauber 1930 – 1945, Stuttgart 2004 ( Helicopters of the Third Reich, 2002, Hersham, Surrey)
    Technically more advanced than most helicopters now.
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  98. Talha says:
    @samizdat18
    "It’s not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it …."

    Are you calling Jews idiots? Do you think they aren't able to discern for themselves who they think their *true* enemy really is?

    You seem to attribute "ignorance" and "stupidity" to what most "anti-semites" would simply say is "malicious" - They know full well who their enemy is - that's why the childrens books feature young white couples, not young black or moslem couples.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS08cWZrlQA

    Why do you think in this video every character is "white" except for the black male who cucks the whimpy white guy? Why didn't they have all the women black (or moslem) and the "suave" guy white?

    Do you think that's an accident?

    Muslim isn’t an ethnicity, no matter how much the Left liberals would love it to be so.

    Peace.

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  99. renfro says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    People have been making the same complaints about Jews for 2000 years.
     
    No.


    So …are we to believe that the peoples of 100′s of countries that expelled Jews thru out history were all wrong or lying or infected with the anti-Semitism disease?
     
    Most countries through history never expelled Jews (Hellenic Empires, Roman Empire, Parthian Empire, Sassanian Empire, Abbasid Caliphate, Cordoba Caliphate, Vatican City, Polish-Lithuanian kingdom, ...). Jews were kicked out from ca. 1100 to 1400 from numerous local kingdoms due to combination of intensification of religious fanaticism, financial depredations of early monarchs & their precarious position of middlemen which made them vulnerable to various superstitious accusations.


    And the Jews were the only people on earth never guilty of anything?
     
    Nonsense not deserving answer.


    That is the meme they promote—but good luck getting anyone in their right mind to believe there exist on earth a special group of humans incapable of wrong doing. It’s absurd.
     
    Finally, a truth. To think that- this is really absurd.

    Anti-Semitism throughout history has been the reaction of the gentiles to the deeds of the Jews in their midst.
     
    How come only during parts of European history, say from 1000 to 1600, it was a significant force, and only in Europe? Not in Iran. Not in Maghreb. Not in Egypt. Not in Poland. Not in Italy.

    Why did the Dutch & Cromwell's England invite them back?

    But-this is a waste of time. Who wants to learn something, let him consult books.

    Obviously you have consulted the wrong history books.
    So yes you are a waste of time.

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  100. @Corvinus
    "With the exception of 3 years, the American Federation of Teachers Union has been controlled by the Bolshevik..."

    A product of Alt-Right indoctrination.

    Cuck.

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  101. @Andrei Martyanov

    So your snobbish rant disproved what in this article?
     
    Bardon made a case and it's a decent one, albeit I do not share some of his views, which is not crucial for a discussion. A case in point--a complete (and catastrophic) submitting of US foreign policy to Israel's interests wouldn't be possible without Christian Zionism in the US. Guess what, those people count themselves "Christian". The fact that US Jews in the so called "intellectual" (there is nothing really intellectual there, but still) field in the US rode "this" Old Testament vehicle to the top of a political, academic and "intellectual" power and influence testifies not only to their sinister agenda, and some of it is sinister, but opens the issue of, both willful and not, collaboration of people who are manifestly non-Jewish in any sense and even count themselves as 100% USDA approved Americans in contributing greatly to the American demise. This is just one example. So, who's "guilty" more? Jews or those who worship them and Israel? Did they become inseparable? I think they did, but I could be wrong.

    The Christian Zionists are a big problem (and despicable as well), but it’s simply ludicrous to think they’re the driving force behind the US’s Israeli-centric foreign policy.

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    but it’s simply ludicrous to think they’re the driving force behind the US’s Israeli-centric foreign policy.
     
    They are one of the major factors in it. If you disagree with me, fine--try to disagree with Phil Giraldi who, among many things, wrote a superb piece:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37674.htm

    I do not however, dispute the fact, that most of contemporary US "geopolitics" and especially following 911 was and is formulated by people with dubious loyalties and who are mostly of Jewish descent. This is one issue on which I disagree with Bardon radically, whatever nuanced definitions, however sensible, could be given to them. In the end, even Bardon admits about grossly disproportionate influence (and power, I may add) those people exert on the US foreign and domestic policies. This influence wouldn't have been possible without massive and active grass-root support of American Christian Zionists. They DO have numbers.

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    This one is pretty thin.

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  103. @Bardon Kaldian

    But you seem to agree that a substantial portion of self identified Jews defines themselves as being at war with white gentiles, whom they regard as ancestral enemies, and this dramatically affects their interactions with whites, both consciously and unconsciousl. As indeed, how could it not.
     
    History is what hurts. They are, historically, a middle-Eastern religious-cultural people living among Europeans (I won't elaborate on the US or on their history in Ummayad, Abbasid, Cordovan caliphates or Ottoman empire). They're-historically- foreigners, like Gypsies. But, unlike Gypsies: a) they are not so "racially" alien, b) they have been reshaped & reconfigured in various European/Christian countries & have become Italians, Germans, Poles, Russians, French,... Simply, hard-core Jewish nationalists & identitarians truly are aliens & sometimes enemies. But, this is a small minority. Most of them, even those with ethnic-cultural identity are not inimical aliens. Why would any reasonable European or Euro-American see them & their worship of their middle-Eastern variant of Zeus as something intrinsically dangerous to our identity is beyond me.

    MacDonald sees them as "eternal aliens" & eternal enemies. He's ahistorical, tendentious & mostly wrong.

    Not being a genetic determinist myself, I don’t subscribe to McDonald’s theories. However, I do think he’s performed a valuable service in providing a remarkably detailed and accurate analysis of the psychology of a significant portion of the Jewish population, and formulating a comprehensive theory that while lacking in nuance nevertheless provides a useful lens through which to view an elusive subject.

    So – your criticisms of him are correct, but he has value.
     
    MacDonald has shed light on some interesting topics like history of Marranos or early Greek anti-Judaism, but he's wrong or tendentious on many topics. For instance:

    a) he pictures them as eternally warring against Europeans, race/identity-wise. In fact, nothing like that ever existed: Greek anti-Judaism is a combination of antipathy toward Asian religious tribalists who want to remain separate, like many Algerians in contemporary France (hence perception of Hebrew misanthropy) & normal economic competition (not for some imaginary resources, this is MacDonald's ludicrous invention); Roman wars against them in 1st & 2nd C AD have nothing "antisemitic" in them (bloody national uprising against the empire has to be crushed, sorry Judeans, you miscalculated); Christian anti-Judaism is a completely different matter, since Christianity is a rejuvenated Zoroastrianism with a smattering of properly Hebrew practices & Greek ideologies- odium theologicum, present in Christian anti-Jewish polemic, is basically import from the East, because core West had never been characterized by religious fanaticism in that sense or intensity; social-Darwinian anti-Semitism is, on the other hand, a new, 19th C nationalist blood-and-soil ideology.

    And for MacDonald, it is, more or less, the same. This is a complete lack of historical perspective.

    Then, he is tendentious. MacDonald presents Spanish conversos/Marranos from 15th and 16th C as ethnically-racially homogeneous group. A part of them must have stayed that way- it is perfectly natural that forcibly converted people (who had already possessed their written culture & rituals) will adopt chameleon-like behavior. So did Moriscos, forcibly converted Muslim Arabs. In fact, they had to be ethnically cleansed, all of them. So, it's not about specific Jewish traits; it is about religious violence & natural resistance of people who had found themselves on the receiving end of pressure for religious conformity. MacDonald implies that many, perhaps most Marranos succeeded in surviving Inquisition in next 2-3 centuries. But, if we are to believe chronicles & modern haplotype investigations, ca. 10% of Spaniards have J haplogroup, therefore possible Jewish ancestry.
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
    So, after all, some, but not most Marranos have succeeded to retain their identity & emigrate later to the Netherlands or Ottoman empire.

    Conspicuously, MacDonald has glossed over the fact that most Jewish Germans in the 19th C had been assimilated with high percentage of intermarriage. Marranos in 16th C did-at least a part of them-tried to retain their separate identity. Not so in early 19th C Germany, where many Jews had voluntarily been baptized & completely assimilated into German society-no Jewish separatism & tribal behavior. No "Jewish Christian" secret societies, clannish behavior, endogamous marriages...
    Mendelssohn family simply disappeared among other Germans.

    How so if they're eternally alien ethnic group? Where I can see that famous survival strategy? This "strategy", it seems, leads only to obliteration of a separate national identity.

    And to write on MacDonald's omissions & simply misconceptions (Communism, national question, Freud, Frankfurt school...) would take us too far. MacDonald is clueless re these movements.

    Finally, I’d like to point out that your analysis of Jews presents their behavior as stemming from a sense of radical insecurity. While this is true, and generates a tremendous amount of psychic energy , the other side of the coin is the Jewish drive for supremacy and dominance, which is implicit in Jewish culture, and the envy and resentment they feel towards whites and Christians. Another factor that should not be ignored is Jewish cultures valorization of wealth and contempt for the poor man – and money leads to many a crime.
     
    This is not that simple.

    1. their perverted behavior in post-WW II is one of the consequences of the genocide. If we treat them as deeply traumatized patients, we'll be nearer to truth. No group of people who had passed through, as a collective, what they've been through from 1933-1945 can, in my opinion, recover from that experience. They, ethnic Jews, live in the state of permanent trauma.

    2. their drive is not for dominance, but for security & freedom to continue their (religious) culture. They have been philanthropists for their co-religionists, but in past century or so, they've been more active in universalist humanist philanthrophy & various "progressive" movements (why else their involvement with NAACP and activism during Civil rights era?).

    In sum- they are not a monolith; they are a historical entity, growing & diminishing; judging from past half a century or so, they will be swallowed by assimilation (except in Israel), because in post-modern world it is impossible to retain ethnic individuality if you're lost all other distinctive traits & defense mechanisms polarizing you against your neighbors.

    10% of Spaniards have J haplogroup, therefore possible Jewish ancestry.

    J haplogroup Jewish ancestry

    It has about the same relationship with being Jewish as an American birth certificate, not much more, not much less.

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    J haplogroup Jewish ancestry
     
    In the above I had the mathematical operator for "does not equal" which doesn't come through whatever markup language Unz is using, so the meaning was:

    J haplogroup (does not equal) Jewish ancestry
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  104. @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    10% of Spaniards have J haplogroup, therefore possible Jewish ancestry.
     
    J haplogroup Jewish ancestry

    It has about the same relationship with being Jewish as an American birth certificate, not much more, not much less.

    J haplogroup Jewish ancestry

    In the above I had the mathematical operator for “does not equal” which doesn’t come through whatever markup language Unz is using, so the meaning was:

    J haplogroup (does not equal) Jewish ancestry

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  105. Mr. Anon says:
    @biz
    Children need to be taught to share, and to be tolerant of other people. Some of these books seem pretty reasonable, like the one about the boy learning to share his box (A few sound terrible, like the ones talking about masturbation - I wonder how common that actually is). Even two mommies or two daddies or whatever, those kids should not be beat up or ostracized on the playground. Does anyone here actually have kids and understand what influences they actually need?

    The story states that he made his “home” out of a box. If he doesn’t want to share it, why should he? It’s his damned box. Do you share everything you have?

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  106. Mr. Anon says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    People have been making the same complaints about Jews for 2000 years.
     
    No.


    So …are we to believe that the peoples of 100′s of countries that expelled Jews thru out history were all wrong or lying or infected with the anti-Semitism disease?
     
    Most countries through history never expelled Jews (Hellenic Empires, Roman Empire, Parthian Empire, Sassanian Empire, Abbasid Caliphate, Cordoba Caliphate, Vatican City, Polish-Lithuanian kingdom, ...). Jews were kicked out from ca. 1100 to 1400 from numerous local kingdoms due to combination of intensification of religious fanaticism, financial depredations of early monarchs & their precarious position of middlemen which made them vulnerable to various superstitious accusations.


    And the Jews were the only people on earth never guilty of anything?
     
    Nonsense not deserving answer.


    That is the meme they promote—but good luck getting anyone in their right mind to believe there exist on earth a special group of humans incapable of wrong doing. It’s absurd.
     
    Finally, a truth. To think that- this is really absurd.

    Anti-Semitism throughout history has been the reaction of the gentiles to the deeds of the Jews in their midst.
     
    How come only during parts of European history, say from 1000 to 1600, it was a significant force, and only in Europe? Not in Iran. Not in Maghreb. Not in Egypt. Not in Poland. Not in Italy.

    Why did the Dutch & Cromwell's England invite them back?

    But-this is a waste of time. Who wants to learn something, let him consult books.

    Nonsense not deserving answer.

    Translation: I can’t answer that.

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  107. Svigor says:

    a) essentialist antisemites see Jews as an alien & unassimilable “race”, inimical to the West by default (I am not talking about Arab-Islamic world, because the term “antisemitism” does not apply to Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is simply clash of two nationalisms).
    So, antisemitic world-view is a rigid dogma which cannot, due to emotional investment of an antisemite, be challenged in the real world.

    Ruling out the possibility that Jews are an alien and unassimilable group, inimical to the West by default, doesn’t seem very scientific to me. Seems more like philo-Semitism masquerading as intellectual rigor.

    Empirical data don’t bear them out: high levels of Jewish intermarriage with non-Jews (in Weimar Germany 25%-40%, in contemporary Russia perhaps 80%), their cultural assimilation to host societies & their contribution to adopted countries seem to corroborate Einstein’s claim: If it were not for antisemitism, Jews would have dispersed like leaves in the wind.

    Well, Jews who intermarry and have kids with non-Jews and don’t raise those kids Jewish have stopped being Jews, yes? P.S., those numbers are substantially lower than “intermarriage” among other White groups, which don’t even track such “intermarriage” because they aren’t nearly as ethnocentric as Jews.

    So, antisemitic world-view is a rigid dogma which cannot, due to emotional investment of an antisemite, be challenged in the real world.

    Countersemitism has always mirrored semitism, it gets its rigidity from Jews. I find counter-semites far less rigid in their criticism of Jews than I find Jews in their refusal to countenance criticism of Jews.

    b) conspiratorial antisemites see them as an incredibly powerful monolithic bloc,

    A bloc that doesn’t get much traction here, or among alt-righters; Jews love blabbing about them, though.

    Conspiracy minded people attribute to Jews many historical & cultural currents/events where they’d been present, but were not the decisive factor: Communist revolution in Russian empire 1917; control of “international banking” (influential-yes, controlling-no); subversion of dominant morality through counter-culture of the 60s (nobody “planned” that); then, Frankfurt school myth (virtually all who write about so called Cultural Marxism do not know what this school of thought was about).

    Meanwhile, Jewish dindus say Jews had nothing to do with the Oktober revolution, No True Scotsman, it was all the goyim, everybody does it, etc. Again, the mirror-image.

    c) diabolical antisemitism sees Jews as a kind of cancer, or non-human colony of parasitic swarm which will suck out life from the host-victim & move on, leaving a carcass. They are, according to this world-view, incarnation of Ahriman/Satan.

    The Jews’ relationship to the West is a parasitic one.

    Basically you’re criticizing people for believing shorthand. The things they believe are essentially true. Sort of like GIs who said we needed to kill every German man during WWII. No, but they were on the right side as far as we were concerned, and we put guns in their hands.

    First, I don’t consider Jewish people of Jewish ancestry, but not identity (Marx was a German of Jewish extraction & not a Jew);

    If I had more Jewish examples to point to as helping Whites, instead of disasters like Marx, I might be as sanguine as you.

    mistakenly thinking verbosity and esoteric words will make people think he’s intellectual.

    They will. Not as many as they’d prefer, but many will. See Moldbug for details.

    Then, he is tendentious. MacDonald presents Spanish conversos/Marranos from 15th and 16th C as ethnically-racially homogeneous group. A part of them must have stayed that way- it is perfectly natural that forcibly converted people (who had already possessed their written culture & rituals) will adopt chameleon-like behavior.

    They weren’t forcibly converted. They could have left. Many did. But they chose to stay after promising to convert, which was mostly a lie. They deserved every bit of the persecution, under Christian Law (which they chose to subject themselves to), that they received.

    Just skimming your stuff btw, if you’re wondering why I’m not being more thorough in my replies.

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    Indeed, Historically Jews have been expelled from over a hundred nations, states, principalities, etc., and peoples as different as Europeans and Arabs have rather similar accounts of collective Jewish behavior. We are to believe irrational hatred, and not this collective behavior itself, explains this? Smoke and fire, as they say.
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  108. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus
    "A great deal of Jewish radical activism in the cultural sphere comes under the umbrella of the general relationship between Jews and the Left."

    The author in typical fashion makes an overblown generalization. He wants to make it appear that Americans in particular seem to fall victim to snake oil salesmen. But, Americans in general do not take seriously believe the primary purpose of Jews is to infiltrate their sense of decency through children's education and culture.

    The author in typical fashion makes an overblown generalization.

    No. However you – in typical fashion – spew a bunch of squid-ink.

    How do you explain Ms. Newman’s penchant for advocating non-traditional lesbian familes for goys ( ‘Heather’ has two mommies – Jane and Kate ) whereas her jewish stories portray traditional jewish families – it’s all Mom and the Torah and Apple Latkes. How do YOU explain that, schmuck?

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    He’s a cuck. He defends Jews from reaction against their collective behavior, and castigates non-Jews for collectively asserting their own interests against such behavior. Art Deco and Corvinus should get a room, total cuck-fest when those two are around.
    , @Corvinus
    "How do you explain Ms. Newman’s penchant for advocating non-traditional lesbian familes for goys ( ‘Heather’ has two mommies – Jane and Kate ) whereas her jewish stories portray traditional jewish families – it’s all Mom and the Torah and Apple Latkes. How do YOU explain that, schmuck?"

    In the same way that the Alt Right advocates "race realism" and opposes "magic dirt"--extremist and out of touch with observable reality.

    And, Beefcake, all you are is a parrot. You use the same tired phrase over and over again. Get some new material.
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  109. Mr. Anon says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    As I said a day or two ago: it is useless to argue with conspiratorial antisemites (from what you wrote, I don't think you belong to that category). I'll just write a summary of a summary (basically, a C/P) & for serious analyses- whoever is interested- point to Laqueur's & Brustein's works (there are tons of them, but this would have to suffice: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4E86242277746DA6E5587E4DF122BDD1 , http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E194C4F4F44E1146ACC4881034E0CDDC )

    I don't want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I'll go...

    1. you write as Jews are a separate, non-white "race". In all likelihood, they are, phenotypically -not "people of color". They're, visually, Mediterranean types we can find in Greece, southern Italy etc. Of course, some Jewish racial nationalists will disagree: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/

    Well: a) not all Caucasians are white. You can be both Caucasian & non-white- for instance most Iranians and Arabs. b) Jews are a mixed bag & most of them look white. And now we come to the "social construct" element of race: those Jews who look white & identify with Western civilization will sign for white race/identity; on the other hand, nationalist, Judaist Jews who identify "whiteness" with their historical enemy, Europe, both pre-Christian (Greece & Rome) & Christian will opt for non-white MENA "race".

    2. you conflate ancestry & identity. So, for instance, Karl Marx was not a Jew in his own eyes, only a person of Jewish ancestry. For his opponents like Bakunin and Duhring he was a "Jew" because they saw Jewishness as a genealogical stain, and therefore Marx could be a "Jew" without knowing anything of Jewish culture, either religious or secular, or possessing a sense of loyalty toward "real", Judaistic Jews.That was label they put on him, not manifestation of his self-consciousness.
    Also, atheist Jews can claim Jewish identity (tribal secular culture), but I'm skeptical about Jewish converts to Christianity. Judaist Jews, generally, don't consider them to be Jewish anymore. Cultural gap is too wide.

    And now summing up- I don't see hyper-analysis of various areas would change much..

    Jews are an ethnic religion or religious culture. They are not a "race" (except in the 19th C sense), but they do have a non-negligible genetic homogeneity (apart from Ethiopian "Jews", most Jews are Europeanized Middle Easterners).
    Theirs is a tribal ethnic religion, similar to Parsis or Sikhs: that's why Ivanka Trump is not a Jewess, although she may think so. If a William Bond from Tuscaloosa converts to Sikhism, he won't become a "Sikh" (although he may consider himself to be, similar to James Jesus Angleton's progeny). Due to the tribalism, Jews remain something like a people (which is impossoble in universalist religions like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism).

    In past two centuries, European Jews - with Haredi & a few other exceptions- have
    assimilated into host societies: German, Russian, French, British, Austrian, Italian, Polish,..

    The highest level of assimilation had been achieved in pre- Hitler Germany where most German Jews had considered themselves to be Germans primarily, and Jews only
    secondarily. This can be seen from their high participation in all-German national efforts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenz%C3%A4hlung & high percentages of intermarriage, which fluctuated from 25% to 40% during 1920s.

    How it all ended, we know.

    American Jews, most of them, have their roots in Russian Empire (they've swamped earlier, more "European" German Jewish immigrants). They have retained their national culture (Yiddish, written in Hebrew script), numerous dietary laws & other customs. In short, US got mostly unassimilated ghetto Jews.

    Due to their work ethics, culture, slightly higher IQ & ethnic networking, they thrived in the US in various areas & became very influential. From early 1900s to, perhaps, Six Days War in 1967, most of them tried to assimilate & become virtually indistinguishable from WASPs.

    But then, things changed & many US Jews had recovered their primary ethnic-cultural identity as Jews first. Because this is a sensitive issue, there is no profusion of reliable sociological investigation data, graphs, categorizations. Just, as a rule of thumb, we can divide Jewish Americans into a few
    categories:

    1. JINOs. Many US "Jews" are assimilated & don't think of themselves as Jews primarily. They account for anything between 20% and 50%.

    2. secular & religious Jews who possess partial Jewish identity, but for them it is blended with broader American loyalty. It is hard to tell how many people belong to this category.

    3. religious Orthodox Jews who may be annoying as neighbors, but are not too politically minded.

    4. the last segment would be American Jews (as different from Jewish Americans). They can be secular or religious; rich or poor; intensity of their commitment to Israel or Jewish ethnic activism may vary, but they are basically cultural aliens in US & Europe. For secularists, Auschwitz & Israel have replaced Torah & Talmud as chief emotional anticorrosives that shield them from assimilation.

    My guess is that they are somewhere between 15% and 25% of all US Jews. This segment can be further divided into subsegments (for instance, some are anti-Christian, while others are not). But, what is common to them is their clear differentiation from host national cultures, stubborn insistence on their ethnic-national individuality & a sense of being an "endangered species". Some subsegments of this portion of American Jews are true aliens in the US & through their ethnic activism, frequently masked as moral universalism, try to subvert dominant cultural values & change host society into a shapeless mess.

    This is a minority of Jewish Americans, but they have economic, societal, cultural & political impact by far surpassing their numbers. And they seem not to learn from history: Brazilian Jews, because of slow but inevitable future collapse of multiracial Brazilian society are just trying to "get out". Jewish elites, across the world, are still in thrall to Nazi-Aryan iconography & mythology as the central threat to their existence, while the world has moved past it long ago.

    In this, last portion of Jewish Americans one can find typical traits of cultural alienation, ethnic paranoia, "us" vs. "them" mentality, ..basically, a sense of being a perpetual stranger who wants to shape the dominant discourse & identity in order to avoid- in their eyes- future pogroms & genocide. Because in the fevered mind of pathological Jewish nationalists, Europeans & whites, virtually all of them, possess the inner Nazi screaming to get out & finally finalize the Final Solution. This is an illustration of such a mindset:

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

    http://www.historytoday.com/robert-carr/nazism-and-christian-heritage

    It's not blonde beast they should be afraid of, but brown camel-shtupper & his ebony lapdogs. But- they seem to be unable to grasp it ....

    I don’t want to write long stuff, so just a few c/p notes & I’ll go…

    Followed by a couple of pages of……………something………..I don’t know what, I didn’t read it.

    You have pretty much demonstrated here, if not elsewhere, that it is pointless to discuss anything with you. You are either close-minded and/or deluded, or just a mendacious, ethnically self-interested bigot.

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  110. Svigor says:

    1. their perverted behavior in post-WW II is one of the consequences of the genocide. If we treat them as deeply traumatized patients, we’ll be nearer to truth. No group of people who had passed through, as a collective, what they’ve been through from 1933-1945 can, in my opinion, recover from that experience. They, ethnic Jews, live in the state of permanent trauma.

    1. World War Two craps bigger than the holocaust. Since we’re talking trauma.

    2. You’d think that for normal people, at the aggregate level, a lot of the consequences of the trauma would cancel out. E.g., you’d find a lot of Jews kissing white ass to prevent the next one, or withdrawing into their shells and becoming recluses, or forgetting the idea of being Jewish altogether, or actually noticing that Whites are being genocided in a far more insidious and effective manner than Jews ever were, or, well, use your imagination. Instead, we seem to only get more aggression and hostility. The results of this trauma seem awfully directed and self-serving, is what I’m getting at.

    2. their drive is not for dominance, but for security & freedom to continue their (religious) culture.

    They should be driving toward Aliyah then. Far more effective than anything they can do in the diaspora.

    They have been philanthropists for their co-religionists, but in past century or so, they’ve been more active in universalist humanist philanthrophy & various “progressive” movements (why else their involvement with NAACP and activism during Civil rights era?).

    To weaponize Blacks. My take is more consistent, explains why these “progressive” instincts and movements don’t win much in Israel.

    Jews were kicked out from ca. 1100 to 1400 from numerous local kingdoms due to combination of intensification of religious fanaticism, financial depredations of early monarchs & their precarious position of middlemen which made them vulnerable to various superstitious accusations.

    Horseshit. Jews caught the boot because they were all too often medieval bailiffs and tax-farmers (because they could be trusted to more ruthlessly and efficiently squeeze the peasantry), when they weren’t doing stuff like siding with Muslim invaders.

    And the Jews were the only people on earth never guilty of anything?

    Nonsense not deserving answer.

    No, I’d like to know, too. What are some of the historical crimes of the Jews? According to every Jew I talk to, there are none, once you sort out the humblebragging.

    How come only during parts of European history, say from 1000 to 1600, it was a significant force, and only in Europe? Not in Iran. Not in Maghreb. Not in Egypt. Not in Poland. Not in Italy.

    I suppose in Poland they were too strongly ensconced to be evicted. It’s not like the Poles love them now, or loved them in the 1930s, or…

    In the Muslim world, they were never given enough rope to hang themselves. Sort of like how vampires don’t worry about other vampires feeding on them. Iran 2017 is instructive; Jews are tolerated, but allowed 0 power. They don’t get to “assimilate.”

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  111. Svigor says:

    Deduction says that Jews were not persecuted in the Muslim world for the same reason they were not prominent, or very interested in living in the Muslim world, relative to European Christendom; because Muslims saw them coming. There’s a lot of similarity between the North African and SW Asian Muslim psych profile, and that of Jews.

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  112. Wally says:
    @renfro

    1. their perverted behavior in post-WW II is one of the consequences of the genocide. If we treat them as deeply traumatized patients, we’ll be nearer to truth. No group of people who had passed through, as a collective, what they’ve been through from 1933-1945 can, in my opinion, recover from that experience. They, ethnic Jews, live in the state of permanent trauma.
     
    The trauma excuse is well past its sell date.

    2. their drive is not for dominance, but for security & freedom to continue their (religious) culture. They have been philanthropists for their co-religionists, but in past century or so, they’ve been more active in universalist humanist philanthrophy & various “progressive” movements (why else their involvement with NAACP and activism during Civil rights era?).
     
    The fact is that in every case where the Jews were expelled from a nation, often under conditions of great suffering, within a few years, the Jews have returned. One can find no parallel in the historical records of other groups, this strange compulsion, this incredible persistence in putting their heads into the lion's mouth again and again.

    So why did the Jews do this? What are they doing living in the midst of the gentiles? The Jews at various times, particularly in Russia, were given land and territory to build their own Jewish ruled entity--but they failed and ran back to the cities to become merchants in the gentiles areas.
    The Jews always roamed the civilized world, seeking any spot where they could settle down in the midst of an established community, and where they could prosper at the expense of others by appropriating what they had built.

    Quite simply the Jews could not exist without the gentiles and their civilizations .
    Israel is a perfect example of this and the hypocrisy of Jewishness----supposedly a country built by Jews to separate themselves from gentiles in order to be safe----it is totally dependent on gentiles and the gentile world for its existence.

    Even separate it and they are still parasitic.

    said:
    “What are they doing living in the midst of the gentiles? The Jews at various times, particularly in Russia, were given land and territory to build their own Jewish ruled entity–but they failed and ran back to the cities to become merchants in the gentiles areas.
    The Jews always roamed the civilized world, seeking any spot where they could settle down in the midst of an established community, and where they could prosper at the expense of others by appropriating what they had built.”

    “Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. According to Yosef, death has “no dominion” over non-Jews in Israel.”

    -from Jonathan Cook, “Hate the Gentile!” Israel’s Racist Rabbis

    http://www.codoh.com

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  113. Svigor says:

    Einstein’s claim: If it were not for antisemitism, Jews would have dispersed like leaves in the wind.

    Yeah, that makes sense. “If nobody was trying to persecute us for being Jewish, we’d have stopped being Jewish by now.” Antisemitism helps motivate Jews to circle the wagons, explaining the Jewish tendency to invent it when it doesn’t exist, but that doesn’t fit Einstein’s claim at all.

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  114. Mr. Anon says:
    @jilles dykstra
    You remind me of Churchill's scientific adviser prof Lindemann, phycisist, who, when British radar detected the VII flights, up to 80 km height, said it was impossible.
    Not until if I remember correctly Poles put the remains of a missile into a British plane, a hazardous flight, did the British discover that the Germans could pump liquid oxygen, that was also used to cool the combustion chamber.

    Rudel already in the 1956 edition of his book mentions that Hitler wanted him to drop an atomic bomb on the Ural hydro electric installations, in order to stop USSR tank production.
    Hitler therefore forbade him to fly any more, he was Germany's best pilot.
    Hans-Ulrich Rudel, ´Mein Kriegstagebuch, Aufzeichnungen eines Stukafliegers’, 1983, 2006 Dresden
    On the Prague airport two planes, that had been adapted to carry the hydrogen bomb, a sphere of about a metre in diameter, were ready.
    Villagers near the test site witnessed huge explosions.
    Secretaries saw prototypes.
    A physicist confirms that it is physically possible to cause hydrogen fusion with ordinary explosives.
    But the technique apparently is so difficult that just a few tests succeeded.

    But of course, without reading the book you know best.
    It is quite possible that Hitler fought on as long as possible in the hope that the bomb would become operational.

    Try to imagine what a few VII's dropping hydrogen bombs would do.

    When Hitler visited Peenemünde he said to Dornberger that he was one of the two men in Germany had to make apologies to.
    I long wondered who was the second
    Walter Dornberger, Peenemünde, Die Geschichte der V-Waffen, Esslingen 1981, 2003

    A remarkable post – I don’t think that a single thing you said was true. Outstanding.

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  115. Bubba says:
    @Corvinus
    "With the exception of 3 years, the American Federation of Teachers Union has been controlled by the Bolshevik..."

    A product of Alt-Right indoctrination.

    LOL! The truth hurts so you neocons, BLM millennials & liberals can only resort to cry “racist!” You twits can’t even think for yourselves! Grow up and take a non-PC history and logic class. I’m a paleoconservative and things have never looked better for us in over 45 years. You millennials are in for a lifetime of troubles and as the black kids say, ‘It’s about to get real. ” Real bad that is for you. Lots of luck with your Gender Queer Study degrees and loaded with $100K+ in undischargeable debt! You’re going to be mugged by reality very shortly there boy.

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    "LOL! The truth hurts so you neocons, BLM millennials & liberals can only resort to cry “racist!”

    Except I'm not an neocon, BLM millennials, or liberal. I am educated, married, white moderate man with children.

    "I’m a paleoconservative and things have never looked better for us in over 45 years."

    A brand that is other than popular with the boys and girls of today. You are really going to have to make headway trying to indoctrinate them, I mean convince them, of your ideology. Best wishes to you.
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  116. Miro23 says:
    @Allan
    Here's a fable which can be used to impart street smarts while delivering a political message of extraordinary contemporary relevance:


    The Bitch and Her Whelps

    A BITCH, ready to whelp, earnestly begged a shepherd for a place where she might litter. When her request was granted, she besought permission to rear her puppies in the same spot. The shepherd again consented. But at last the Bitch, protected by the bodyguard of her Whelps, who had now grown up and were able to defend themselves, asserted her exclusive right to the place and would not permit the shepherd to approach.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/aesop/aes262.htm

    The Bitch and Her Whelps

    A BITCH, ready to whelp, earnestly begged a shepherd for a place where she might litter. When her request was granted, she besought permission to rear her puppies in the same spot. The shepherd again consented. But at last the Bitch, protected by the bodyguard of her Whelps, who had now grown up and were able to defend themselves, asserted her exclusive right to the place and would not permit the shepherd to approach.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/aesop/aes262.htm

    The interest of the fable is that things didn’t come to pass in the expected way.

    Rather than the Bitch and the Whelps becoming part of the family (integrating, cooperating and defending their new home ), they show pathological symptoms and attacked it.

    The fable works because it’s about dogs, and the expectations that we have about dog development.

    If it had been about cuckoos , the fable would only have been of interest if the fledgling cuckoo had shared its life with the other chicks rather than tossing them out of the nest.

    There are different strategies at work here. Puppies have the best life chances through integrating, whereas cuckoo chicks have the best life chances through deception and parasitism. And, there’s no ethical component, they’re animals, and they’re just following through with their optimal hard wired survival strategies.

    However, it’s a dynamic balance. Pathologies among dogs can be identified, and the dog can be removed from the family. Equally, integrationist cuckoos may have a hard time with rejection, despite their best efforts at being good magpies – all in the nature of the natural world.

    It’s true that humans have the luxury of being able to rationally (or socially) modify their genetic dispositions but most don’t bother with it, so they’ve adopted the default natural system of different tribes living apart on their own well defined territories, which serves to minimalize conflict.

    The Jewish dilemma is that they have wanted to retain their identity without having the protection (until recently) of their own territory – resulting in the optimal survival strategies of either 1) ghettoization – living apart from the rest of society or 2) deception and parasitism to gain the benefits without the costs – and they have taken both routes.

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  117. @German_reader
    You make a lot of good points, and I'd mostly agree regarding some of the more extreme authors here (e.g. Andrew Joyce), but I can't agree with this:

    US neo-conservative imperialist adventures were not “engineered” by “Jews”-anyone with a minimum amount of brain cells cannot seriously think that Cheney or Rumsfeld were puppets of some Jewish conspiracy.
     
    The existence of a powerful Zionist lobby in the US is a fact, this isn't even a "conspiracy theory" given how open it is with organizations like AIPAC, or with influential Jewish donors like Sheldon Adelson (who suggested dropping a nuke in the Iranian desert as a means of "diplomacy"), Bernard Marcus ("Iran is the devil") and Paul Singer having close access to the US president and seeking to influence US Mideast policy (e.g. see here: https://lobelog.com/are-billionaire-donors-driving-trumps-iran-policy/ ). Nor does it seem unreasonable to suspect that neoconservatives' obsession with the Mideast and with countering and overthrowing certain regimes in that region has something to do with the fact that many of those neoconservatives are Jews. Sure enough, these aren't the only reasons for America's foreign policy misadventures, a sense of global mission and a tendency for interventionism have deep roots in US history, but the specific form US foreign policy, especially regarding the Mideast, has taken over the last 50-60 years can't really be explained without taking into account the influence of Zionist lobbyism in the US imo.

    I also disagree with this:


    I am not talking about Arab-Islamic world, because the term “antisemitism” does not apply to Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is simply clash of two nationalisms
     
    It's true that in a sense this is merely a clash between two nationalisms and a conflict over control of territory, like many others. But at least for much of the Islamic world (and probably also for some of the religious nutters in Israel) it's probably much more than that, a genuinely religious conflict which is about following God's will, which makes any form of compromise impossible.
    Regarding Brazil: don't know, sounds maybe somewhat too pessimistic to me.

    The existence of a powerful Zionist lobby in the US is a fact, this isn’t even a “conspiracy theory” given how open it is with organizations like AIPAC, or with influential Jewish donors like Sheldon Adelson (who suggested dropping a nuke in the Iranian desert as a means of “diplomacy”), Bernard Marcus (“Iran is the devil”) and Paul Singer having close access to the US president and seeking to influence US Mideast policy (e.g. see here: https://lobelog.com/are-billionaire-donors-driving-trumps-iran-policy/ ). Nor does it seem unreasonable to suspect that neoconservatives’ obsession with the Mideast and with countering and overthrowing certain regimes in that region has something to do with the fact that many of those neoconservatives are Jews. Sure enough, these aren’t the only reasons for America’s foreign policy misadventures, a sense of global mission and a tendency for interventionism have deep roots in US history, but the specific form US foreign policy, especially regarding the Mideast, has taken over the last 50-60 years can’t really be explained without taking into account the influence of Zionist lobbyism in the US imo.

    It would be too long to address all the issues you’ve mentioned in detail, so: Jews mentioned here are catalysts, not decision makers. In some respects (not all) neo-con Jewish position is similar to that of Jewish Bolsheviks- they (Zinoviev, Kamenev (a half Jew), Trotsky,..) were crucial in implementation of Bolshevik policy & revolution, but they did not change history- Lenin, ethnic Russian, did. Leszek Kolakowski, in the 2nd vol. of his magisterial “Main Currents of Marxism” ( http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=BB2E75551B7024ED68EBEF61DA8E478F ) has given a fine analysis of these events. Without Lenin, both as theorist & leader, Communist coup & later revolution wouldn’t have happened. Jewish Bolsheviks- along with other “ethnic” leaders like Stalin- were too wobbly at this crucial juncture of history.

    So, although Bolshevism is fundamentally different from Neo-Conservatism, in both cases Jews (whether “nationalist” or “internationalist”) were catalysts & not the decision makers.

    It’s true that in a sense this is merely a clash between two nationalisms and a conflict over control of territory, like many others. But at least for much of the Islamic world (and probably also for some of the religious nutters in Israel) it’s probably much more than that, a genuinely religious conflict which is about following God’s will, which makes any form of compromise impossible.

    True, but this is not (on the Islamist side) antisemitism, but a combination of nationalism (Arabs) & religious anti-Western ideology (most non-Arab Muslims).

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  118. @Dante Ardenz
    What Polish Comic Book did you take this history from ? I have studied Jew War Two history for 40 years . Only Jew Fantasy Films would convey your content . I have every book authorized / written by Hans Rudel and know people who knew him ! No such atom bomb mission over London ever discussed by him ,and Fuhrer. Was he going to dive bomb.the device with a Stuka ? He was not qualified to fly anything bigger . Hitler had total contempt for " Jewish Physics" , and by written ,and witness testimony had no time for atomic war. He never visited Pennemunde period . Only by film did he see Von Braun and his teams work. Churchill and his vicious Jew adviser Lindaman had nothing to do with radar study in the time frame referred to. " Water Closet " ,as Rothschild's puppet Churchill was referred to when a discredited back bencher in the International Jews pay to push for war with Germany was not PM in 1939 ! Not until June of 40 , did Jewry get him appointed . This is nonsense like ," Onto Berlin " , painted on Polish " tankettes " , when the stupid Polish Military junta holding 30 Percent German population hostage over the Reichs frontier ,rejected Hitler's alliance offer for the Jews " guarantee " , in London . See ,THE VIRUS HOUSE , David Irvings work on Reichs Atom bomb program, THE MARES NEST ,by David Irving ,on Pennemunde , CHURCHILL WAR ,by Irving ( Creeps Jew ruled record) , CHURCHILL & THE JEWS , Martin Gilbert . His official Jewish biograher.

    I mentioned my sources.
    I can read german.
    Do you really think Dornberger lied about Hitler’s visit to Peenemünde,
    Walter Dornberger, Peenemünde, Die Geschichte der V-Waffen, Esslingen 1981, 2003

    or that

    Rainer Karlsch, ‘Hitlers Bom, Hoe Nazi-Duitsland nucleaire wapens testte in een wanhopige poging om de oorlog te winnen, Tielt, 2005 (Hitlers Bombe, München)
    is phantasy ?
    The writer visited the test site, there are pictures of the remains.
    Mussolini’s envoy is mentioned by name.

    If you know every book written by Rudel you must know that Hitler forbade him to fly any more, an order he disregarded, as by far the best tank destroyer, indeed with a Stuka, fitted with two anti tank cannon.
    You then also know that when Rudel got Germany highest decoration, something with red diamonds, in the presence of Göring and others, they were jalous, Germany on the brink of collapse.
    Can it be that your translators omitted a lot ?

    Churchill, Lindemann and the impossible VII:
    R.V. Jones, ´Most secret war, British Scientific Intelligence 1939 – 1945’, 1978, 1979, London
    Jones fell in disregard by Churchill by making fun of Lindemann, saying that if the British did not know how to make a rocket, maybe the Germans knew.
    Jones presented a calculation showing that such a rocket was physically possible.

    I did read
    David Irving, ‘Hitler’s war’, Londen, 1977
    I never mentioned hydrogen bombing of London.
    What planes were ready in Prague, I do not remember now.

    What is your problem, not being able to understand that for hydrogen fusion, in fact deuterium fusion, just a very high pressure is needed ?
    This very high pression needed explains why the bomb was a sphere.
    I suppose resonance after the explosion of the conventional explosives, or successive concentional explosions was supposed to do the trick.
    The phycisist consulted by the writer was a fool ?

    That Rudel was not qualified to fly anything bigger makes me laugh, he even flew a jet fighter for fun at the end of the war, at 900 kmh, as he writes.
    As if anyone then cared about being qualified.
    As he writes ‘Germany could afford to lose a jet fighter’.

    Hitler’s contempt for jewish physics, therefore his second apology, is my idea.

    On German ingenuity, maybe you should read
    Steve Coates, ‘Deutsche Hubschrauber 1930 – 1945, Stuttgart 2004 ( Helicopters of the Third Reich, 2002, Hersham, Surrey)
    Technically more advanced than most helicopters now.

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  119. A few more books on German ingenuity

    Eberhard Rössler, ‘U-Boottyp XXI’, Bonn 2008
    As the German technical war effort was hardly directed this type of advanced U boat just came into production in 1944, when Speer had got complete control.

    David Irving, ‘The rise and fall of the Luftwaffe’, Londen, 1973, 1976 (Die Tragödie der Deutschen Luftwaffe, Aus den Akten und Erinnerungen von Feldmarschall Erhard Milch, 1970, 1975, Frankfurt/M)
    How Udet and Göring made a mess of the German air force.
    When Milch got control, it was too late.

    Wolfgang Wagner, ´Die Deutsche Luftfahrt, Hugo Junkers, Pionier der Luftfahrt – seine Flugzeuge’, Bonn 1996

    JOHNSON, Brian, ‘The Secret War’, NY Methuen 1978
    In this book you find a host of inventions, such as a tv guided missile, and the rocket attack plane, of which USA footage exists, filmed from Flying Fortresses.

    Charles A. Lindbergh, ´The Wartime Journals of Charles A. Lindbergh’, New York, 1970
    Lindbergh toured Germany just after the capitulation, in order to see what he still could find of German technological developments.
    Very little, large scale looting by the allies.

    But quite interesting is his interview with a German dying in one of Eisenhower’s open air death camps for POW’s, with someone who had been developing an engine for the VIII, that should have reached the USA.
    James Bacque, ´Der geplante Tod, Deutsche Kriegsgefangene in amerikanischen und französischen Lagern 1945 – 1946, Frankfurt/M, 1989, 1994 (Other losses, Toronto, 1989)

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    I'm glad you understand German advances, now copied , stolen, or repressed. The USA / Soviets did loot Germany . Operation Paperclip . Lindburgh wanted to look good after the war he had properly opposed ! Himmler visited Pennemunde alone ," Drove his own BMW onto the Ferry " , and backed the program. Hitler made no wartime visits . Milch ,Speer ,von Below his Luftwaffe aide went in person many times . Dornburger in the employ of the USA after the War needed a good story . Hitler always pulled highly decorated warriors from the line ," you have done enough " , he would say . He wanted Tiger Ace Michael Wittman out of the line . Wittman refused and was killed . The medal Hitler awarded Rudel was the only one . The Knights Cross in Gold ,which already included the Oak Leaves and Diamonds . So desperate for an interesting man of action to succeed him , Hitler breifly considered the dynamic 29 year old Rudel . He was looking to preserve great people for the post war . Of course he knew the men's youth ,and Oberst rank was to low . Admiral Doenitz ,was the Fuhrer excellent choice . " He might salvage something".
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  120. @Svigor

    a) essentialist antisemites see Jews as an alien & unassimilable “race”, inimical to the West by default (I am not talking about Arab-Islamic world, because the term “antisemitism” does not apply to Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is simply clash of two nationalisms).
    So, antisemitic world-view is a rigid dogma which cannot, due to emotional investment of an antisemite, be challenged in the real world.
     
    Ruling out the possibility that Jews are an alien and unassimilable group, inimical to the West by default, doesn't seem very scientific to me. Seems more like philo-Semitism masquerading as intellectual rigor.

    Empirical data don’t bear them out: high levels of Jewish intermarriage with non-Jews (in Weimar Germany 25%-40%, in contemporary Russia perhaps 80%), their cultural assimilation to host societies & their contribution to adopted countries seem to corroborate Einstein’s claim: If it were not for antisemitism, Jews would have dispersed like leaves in the wind.
     
    Well, Jews who intermarry and have kids with non-Jews and don't raise those kids Jewish have stopped being Jews, yes? P.S., those numbers are substantially lower than "intermarriage" among other White groups, which don't even track such "intermarriage" because they aren't nearly as ethnocentric as Jews.

    So, antisemitic world-view is a rigid dogma which cannot, due to emotional investment of an antisemite, be challenged in the real world.
     
    Countersemitism has always mirrored semitism, it gets its rigidity from Jews. I find counter-semites far less rigid in their criticism of Jews than I find Jews in their refusal to countenance criticism of Jews.

    b) conspiratorial antisemites see them as an incredibly powerful monolithic bloc,
     
    A bloc that doesn't get much traction here, or among alt-righters; Jews love blabbing about them, though.

    Conspiracy minded people attribute to Jews many historical & cultural currents/events where they’d been present, but were not the decisive factor: Communist revolution in Russian empire 1917; control of “international banking” (influential-yes, controlling-no); subversion of dominant morality through counter-culture of the 60s (nobody “planned” that); then, Frankfurt school myth (virtually all who write about so called Cultural Marxism do not know what this school of thought was about).
     
    Meanwhile, Jewish dindus say Jews had nothing to do with the Oktober revolution, No True Scotsman, it was all the goyim, everybody does it, etc. Again, the mirror-image.

    c) diabolical antisemitism sees Jews as a kind of cancer, or non-human colony of parasitic swarm which will suck out life from the host-victim & move on, leaving a carcass. They are, according to this world-view, incarnation of Ahriman/Satan.
     
    The Jews' relationship to the West is a parasitic one.

    Basically you're criticizing people for believing shorthand. The things they believe are essentially true. Sort of like GIs who said we needed to kill every German man during WWII. No, but they were on the right side as far as we were concerned, and we put guns in their hands.

    First, I don’t consider Jewish people of Jewish ancestry, but not identity (Marx was a German of Jewish extraction & not a Jew);
     
    If I had more Jewish examples to point to as helping Whites, instead of disasters like Marx, I might be as sanguine as you.

    mistakenly thinking verbosity and esoteric words will make people think he’s intellectual.
     
    They will. Not as many as they'd prefer, but many will. See Moldbug for details.

    Then, he is tendentious. MacDonald presents Spanish conversos/Marranos from 15th and 16th C as ethnically-racially homogeneous group. A part of them must have stayed that way- it is perfectly natural that forcibly converted people (who had already possessed their written culture & rituals) will adopt chameleon-like behavior.
     
    They weren't forcibly converted. They could have left. Many did. But they chose to stay after promising to convert, which was mostly a lie. They deserved every bit of the persecution, under Christian Law (which they chose to subject themselves to), that they received.

    Just skimming your stuff btw, if you're wondering why I'm not being more thorough in my replies.

    Indeed, Historically Jews have been expelled from over a hundred nations, states, principalities, etc., and peoples as different as Europeans and Arabs have rather similar accounts of collective Jewish behavior. We are to believe irrational hatred, and not this collective behavior itself, explains this? Smoke and fire, as they say.

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  121. @Mr. Anon

    The author in typical fashion makes an overblown generalization.
     
    No. However you - in typical fashion - spew a bunch of squid-ink.

    How do you explain Ms. Newman's penchant for advocating non-traditional lesbian familes for goys ( 'Heather' has two mommies - Jane and Kate ) whereas her jewish stories portray traditional jewish families - it's all Mom and the Torah and Apple Latkes. How do YOU explain that, schmuck?

    He’s a cuck. He defends Jews from reaction against their collective behavior, and castigates non-Jews for collectively asserting their own interests against such behavior. Art Deco and Corvinus should get a room, total cuck-fest when those two are around.

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  122. @Beefcake the Mighty
    The Christian Zionists are a big problem (and despicable as well), but it’s simply ludicrous to think they’re the driving force behind the US’s Israeli-centric foreign policy.

    but it’s simply ludicrous to think they’re the driving force behind the US’s Israeli-centric foreign policy.

    They are one of the major factors in it. If you disagree with me, fine–try to disagree with Phil Giraldi who, among many things, wrote a superb piece:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37674.htm

    I do not however, dispute the fact, that most of contemporary US “geopolitics” and especially following 911 was and is formulated by people with dubious loyalties and who are mostly of Jewish descent. This is one issue on which I disagree with Bardon radically, whatever nuanced definitions, however sensible, could be given to them. In the end, even Bardon admits about grossly disproportionate influence (and power, I may add) those people exert on the US foreign and domestic policies. This influence wouldn’t have been possible without massive and active grass-root support of American Christian Zionists. They DO have numbers.

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    I don’t disagree with you that the Christian Zionists are an important factor (I said as much), only that they’re not the MAIN factor. That question is not really the focus of Giraldi’s linked article (you also right that it is excellent), but I suspect he would agree that the Bible-thumpers are second-fiddle to the Jewish Lobby (keeping to the American context).
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  123. VickPM says:

    There is a common thread in this and Joyce’s last UNZ article about the Jesuits being a Jewish movement that infiltrated and perverted christendom. We all know that the catholic priesthood and christian clergy as a whole is a den of homosexuals and lesbians. Modern christendom has been infiltrated at the clerical level by homosexuals and lesbian. Hetero males and females have abandoned church organizations in the US and Europe. Men abdicate their roles where the homos and lesbians roam. So how did this transformation happen?

    Joyce has written on the subject of homosexuality and the nativist white movement extensively arguing that homosexuality must be actively eschewed for non morality based reasons. Traditional Levitical reasons – i.e. the Hebrew/Jewish religious morality that is historically anti homosexual has no place in Joyce’s scientological scheming.

    This brings us to the Jesuit ‘synagogue. The Jesuit movement was evidently founded by crypto Jews. Many of these cryptos were actually married men who converted to cathlolicism. Early on the Jesuit movement was not homosexual. It was crypto Jewish hetero. According to the work reviewed in UNZ by Joyce (R.A. Maryks) the crypto Jewish founders were driven from the Jesuits. This movement now purified of Jewish influence somehow has evolved into the homosexual protectorate that marks all western christian clergy.

    According to data reviewed by Joyce the Jesuit founding was a movement of Spanish crypto Jews. Prior to the holocaust the biggest disaster that befell the Jews as a group was the ‘expulsion’ from Spain. The expulsion was actually a political process that took place over several centuries where as the Jewish community became more fully integrated into the Spanish political hierarchy popular resentment against Jews as a group grew. Without getting into too many details the important nuance to understand for Spain at the time is that Jews were NOT citizens of Spain. They were protected by the monarchy. Situated as guests they were loyal to the crown as tax collectors notaries and other pseudo officers that regularly interacted in the space of exchange between the crown and common gentile subjects. Naturally resentments arose between these Royal guests imposing the will of the crown on the gentiles. The Crown could trust the Jews to turn over the collected taxes because of their status and came to rely upon Jews because of their education based skills – ability to read AND write (communicate) – something Jews were always skilled at and ahead of the common gentile.

    (Writing as an intellectual skill separated the Jew in Europe from the commoner. Writing was the high communication technology of all time until the electronic age. More Jews per capita could write as compared to their gentle contemporaries. This skill allowed for their survival success. Where writing as a skill was limited to the academy and clergy among gentiles the activity was crucial and highly valued and respected along with scholarship in the Jewish community as a whole. On tbe other hand such intellectual activities were disparaged by the common gentile as ‘Jewish’.)

    Common gentile popular resentment of the Jewish class in Spain was taken up by catholic leadership and this common political alliance brought pressure on the Spanish crown to distance itself from the Jewish community. This clearly caused disruptions in the Jewish community. Jews were persecuted and either left Spain went ‘underground’ or converted. Many Jews who were successfully ensconced in Spanish institutions converted to catholicism. But while tbey converted they kept their positions with the Spanish crown and continued on as the skilled ‘new christian’ class that served the royals. Resentment grew between old and new Christians – the dynamic did not change. The new christians were resented as secret judaizers. The Inquisition was established to root out the judaizers among the new christians and many were purged from social and religious orders (Jesuits) and ultimately expelled from Spain.

    So Joyce MUST ask why homosexuality flourished among the Jesuits after the Jews were purged from the movement? Indeed homosexuality has ALWAYS been held in disdain and as morally corrupt and degenerate by traditional Judaism. Yet the Greco Roman seed of homosexuality has been firmly planted in white gentile Europe and waxes in all European institutions – religious governmental and secular – in spite of the anti Jewish purification movements undertaken by traditional Europeans. Here one must note that the LARGEST and most successful Nazi institution – the S.A. – was organized and headed by a German homosexual faggot cabal headed by an avowed and admitted homosexual Ernst Rohm. The S.A. was hardly Jewish!

    Joyce like many alpha gentiles seeks intellectual refuge in a pseudo racial white movement. More like a sophisticated paranoia than a philosophy Joyce has a Jewish persecution complex where Jews sleep with him under his bed and in his children’s books. He refuses to recognize the homosexual germ planted in his nordic ‘people’ by the greco-roman western traditions. Traditional Judaism holds homosexuality in utter disdain and views the advancement of institutionalized homosexuality with alarm.

    A glaring example of Euro-homosexuality is the emergence of same sex union rights and then full legal same sex marriage well before the USA followed suit. At the forefront of this Euro abomination were Nordic types and not Jews. Indeed Europe is essentially judenrein and cultural leadership on the European continent is anti-Jewish.

    Joyce thinking is obviously Jewish paranoid. The Jesuits purged the crypto Jews and emerged as a bastion of buggery. Western Europe led ‘progressed’ to the legalization of same sex marriage – wholly repugnant to Jewish based tradition. A few childrens books commented on by Joyce appears to be a false conatruct. The dramatic homosexual movements that invaded the chrostoan clergy and now legalized marriage started in judenrein Westerm Europe – home to the nordic types Joyce believes to be pure when indeed those types are wholly infected with the greco-roman homosexual germ.

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    Traditional Talmudism not only does not condemn homosexuality, it virtually endorses it, along with pedophilia!

    Paleo-Hebrew culture and religion- as articulated in the Pentateuch - did indeed condemn sodomy and all forms of homosexuality, but that has almost nothing to do with contemporary Orthoxox Judaism, which is based almost entirely on the Babylonian Talmud, the establishment of its canon post-dating that of the New Testament by centuries. The religion of "Judaism" is actually a Pharisaical response to the rise of Christianity- a rejectionist cult which has little to do with the real religion of Moses, the Patriarchs and the Prophets. Christ was not a Jew, He was a Judean- Iudeos. A Judean was one who accepted the Temple in Jerusalem in Judea as the authentic location of the true worship of the Old Covenant, as opposed to, say, the Samaritans, who believed that the true temple was on Mt. Gerizim.


    The incidence of pedophilia and homosexuality in the Orthodox Hasidic community of New York statistically dwarfs that of traditional Catholic organizations. At the very least, Catholic ritual does not include as repulsive and disgusting act (and which is the equivalent of child molestation) as that conducted at an Orthodox bris.

    , @daniel le mouche
    You're a liar and judging by your spelling and grammar an Israeli whose English isn't so good.
    But how do you then explain all these Jews writing gay and other smut for children? How do you explain Jew Hollywood's full-on press promoting the gay agenda, immigration, and miscegenation?
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  124. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    But you seem to agree that a substantial portion of self identified Jews defines themselves as being at war with white gentiles, whom they regard as ancestral enemies, and this dramatically affects their interactions with whites, both consciously and unconsciousl. As indeed, how could it not.
     
    History is what hurts. They are, historically, a middle-Eastern religious-cultural people living among Europeans (I won't elaborate on the US or on their history in Ummayad, Abbasid, Cordovan caliphates or Ottoman empire). They're-historically- foreigners, like Gypsies. But, unlike Gypsies: a) they are not so "racially" alien, b) they have been reshaped & reconfigured in various European/Christian countries & have become Italians, Germans, Poles, Russians, French,... Simply, hard-core Jewish nationalists & identitarians truly are aliens & sometimes enemies. But, this is a small minority. Most of them, even those with ethnic-cultural identity are not inimical aliens. Why would any reasonable European or Euro-American see them & their worship of their middle-Eastern variant of Zeus as something intrinsically dangerous to our identity is beyond me.

    MacDonald sees them as "eternal aliens" & eternal enemies. He's ahistorical, tendentious & mostly wrong.

    Not being a genetic determinist myself, I don’t subscribe to McDonald’s theories. However, I do think he’s performed a valuable service in providing a remarkably detailed and accurate analysis of the psychology of a significant portion of the Jewish population, and formulating a comprehensive theory that while lacking in nuance nevertheless provides a useful lens through which to view an elusive subject.

    So – your criticisms of him are correct, but he has value.
     
    MacDonald has shed light on some interesting topics like history of Marranos or early Greek anti-Judaism, but he's wrong or tendentious on many topics. For instance:

    a) he pictures them as eternally warring against Europeans, race/identity-wise. In fact, nothing like that ever existed: Greek anti-Judaism is a combination of antipathy toward Asian religious tribalists who want to remain separate, like many Algerians in contemporary France (hence perception of Hebrew misanthropy) & normal economic competition (not for some imaginary resources, this is MacDonald's ludicrous invention); Roman wars against them in 1st & 2nd C AD have nothing "antisemitic" in them (bloody national uprising against the empire has to be crushed, sorry Judeans, you miscalculated); Christian anti-Judaism is a completely different matter, since Christianity is a rejuvenated Zoroastrianism with a smattering of properly Hebrew practices & Greek ideologies- odium theologicum, present in Christian anti-Jewish polemic, is basically import from the East, because core West had never been characterized by religious fanaticism in that sense or intensity; social-Darwinian anti-Semitism is, on the other hand, a new, 19th C nationalist blood-and-soil ideology.

    And for MacDonald, it is, more or less, the same. This is a complete lack of historical perspective.

    Then, he is tendentious. MacDonald presents Spanish conversos/Marranos from 15th and 16th C as ethnically-racially homogeneous group. A part of them must have stayed that way- it is perfectly natural that forcibly converted people (who had already possessed their written culture & rituals) will adopt chameleon-like behavior. So did Moriscos, forcibly converted Muslim Arabs. In fact, they had to be ethnically cleansed, all of them. So, it's not about specific Jewish traits; it is about religious violence & natural resistance of people who had found themselves on the receiving end of pressure for religious conformity. MacDonald implies that many, perhaps most Marranos succeeded in surviving Inquisition in next 2-3 centuries. But, if we are to believe chronicles & modern haplotype investigations, ca. 10% of Spaniards have J haplogroup, therefore possible Jewish ancestry.
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
    So, after all, some, but not most Marranos have succeeded to retain their identity & emigrate later to the Netherlands or Ottoman empire.

    Conspicuously, MacDonald has glossed over the fact that most Jewish Germans in the 19th C had been assimilated with high percentage of intermarriage. Marranos in 16th C did-at least a part of them-tried to retain their separate identity. Not so in early 19th C Germany, where many Jews had voluntarily been baptized & completely assimilated into German society-no Jewish separatism & tribal behavior. No "Jewish Christian" secret societies, clannish behavior, endogamous marriages...
    Mendelssohn family simply disappeared among other Germans.

    How so if they're eternally alien ethnic group? Where I can see that famous survival strategy? This "strategy", it seems, leads only to obliteration of a separate national identity.

    And to write on MacDonald's omissions & simply misconceptions (Communism, national question, Freud, Frankfurt school...) would take us too far. MacDonald is clueless re these movements.

    Finally, I’d like to point out that your analysis of Jews presents their behavior as stemming from a sense of radical insecurity. While this is true, and generates a tremendous amount of psychic energy , the other side of the coin is the Jewish drive for supremacy and dominance, which is implicit in Jewish culture, and the envy and resentment they feel towards whites and Christians. Another factor that should not be ignored is Jewish cultures valorization of wealth and contempt for the poor man – and money leads to many a crime.
     
    This is not that simple.

    1. their perverted behavior in post-WW II is one of the consequences of the genocide. If we treat them as deeply traumatized patients, we'll be nearer to truth. No group of people who had passed through, as a collective, what they've been through from 1933-1945 can, in my opinion, recover from that experience. They, ethnic Jews, live in the state of permanent trauma.

    2. their drive is not for dominance, but for security & freedom to continue their (religious) culture. They have been philanthropists for their co-religionists, but in past century or so, they've been more active in universalist humanist philanthrophy & various "progressive" movements (why else their involvement with NAACP and activism during Civil rights era?).

    In sum- they are not a monolith; they are a historical entity, growing & diminishing; judging from past half a century or so, they will be swallowed by assimilation (except in Israel), because in post-modern world it is impossible to retain ethnic individuality if you're lost all other distinctive traits & defense mechanisms polarizing you against your neighbors.

    I agree with you that McDonald is ahistorical. An essentialist, by definition, deals in timeless essences and must disregard the flux of history. I also don’t t see white creativity of the modern period or more recent white universalism and altruism as timeless essences.

    All such theories are farcical and must simply ignore the historical record to create comforting certainties. It’s a search for an anchor in an unstable world. Understandable, but stupid.

    So I’m quite prepared to agree with you that Jews are not a monolithic group with an unchanging character the majority of whose members are locked in a timeless war against Europeans, sort of like the gods and giants of Norse mythology.

    However, I have significant disagreements with you. I think a much larger segment of jews see themselves as at war then you do, and I think you paint Jewish motivations far too benign a light and underplay – or are perhaps ignorant of – the sinister aspects of jewish culture and religion, which I am only all too acquainted with.

    WW2 cannot be a significant factor in Jewish behavior as this behavior antedates it. The literary and historical record shows a striking unanimity in descriptions of jewish behavior from at least a few hundred years back. While the Holocaust is obviously indefensible, it was a reaction to Jewish behavior, just as Pearl Harbor was not just a spontaneous attack by the nefarious japanese. To see it otherwise is to think in essentialist and Manichean terms, just with the bad guys and good guys reversed.

    Also, the majority of American jews had no experience of the Holocaust. I have Jewish friends who are fifth generation Americans, wealthy and secure, who fulfill anti-Semitic stereotypes of two hundred years ago to a tee. Enough of these experiences make you pause and think.

    Jewish religious and cultural texts indisputably contain Jewish supremacist ideas and essentialist Manichean hostility towards non Jews of exactly the sort you condemn elsewhere. This is simply a matter of record and easily demonstrated. I hear this kind of talk around the dinner table every time I visit my childhood Jewish friends. It’s appaling, and its foolish to think this atmosphere has no effect even on secular jews.

    As for the drive for supremacy and dominance, this is found in many cultures. It seems special pleading to excuse jews from this basic human trait in principle. Europeans manifested this drive heavily in the modern period. And again, a simple appeal to Jewish cultural texts can resolve the matter, as well as even a casual acquaintance with modern Jewish attitudes. Jewish ambition is proverbial, and in in a country where at the topmost IQ levels jews are outnumbered eight to one it defies belief to see Jewish dominance in so many key fields as based on merit of as a mere accident.

    Of course, there is a sense in which all drive for supremacy and dominance is based on insecurity and fear, and I like to make this point all the time. And this applies to both jews and Europeans.

    And not being essentialists, we must view the drive for supremacy as subject to the cyclical nature of history, and manifest now in one people and now another, and not be a permanent feature of any one group, but always subject to the historical flux.

    And indeed I believe the most useful way to view modern jews is to see them as in their “empire” phase, a phase which cannot last. Corresponding with this or deriving from it, modern Jews have an incredibly dysfunctional culture of ambition, which creates incredible pressure and leads to abusive practices and much suffering, where one feels worthless in the eyes of one’s community if one isn’t wealthy or powerful.

    Finally, the Jewish attitude to money deserves special mention – it is utterly unlike the attitude of Catholics or Muslims, Buddhists or Hindus. Its closest analogues are with certain protestant sets and Mormons.

    In summary, Jewish culture is in urgent need of serious reform, and as it stands encourages many negative traits. This is hardly unique to jews, of course. But neither can we view their culture in a benign light.

    Now, this all adds up to a picture which, to my mind, paints jews as deserving of pity but also as a dangerous group that any host culture would be wise to be aware of and devise protections against, as not essentially bad but as being in a bad phase of their historical cycle, and as ultimately human and redeemable as the rest of us, but as the group who today most represents ego and materialism, and as such disproportionately responsible for most social ills that afflicts us today.

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    However, I have significant disagreements with you. I think a much larger segment of jews see themselves as at war then you do, and I think you paint Jewish motivations far too benign a light and underplay – or are perhaps ignorant of – the sinister aspects of jewish culture and religion, which I am only all too acquainted with.
     
    OK, let's see.

    WW2 cannot be a significant factor in Jewish behavior as this behavior antedates it. The literary and historical record shows a striking unanimity in descriptions of jewish behavior from at least a few hundred years back. While the Holocaust is obviously indefensible, it was a reaction to Jewish behavior, just as Pearl Harbor was not just a spontaneous attack by the nefarious japanese. To see it otherwise is to think in essentialist and Manichean terms, just with the bad guys and good guys reversed.
     
    Where do you have this Jewish behavior info from? I don't think history corroborates such a statement. For instance, Jews got pretty well in Ottoman empire, one Jew-I forgot his name- was the Grand Vizier in the 16th C. He was a very successful statesman & enriched his adopted country. The same could be said of Disraeli in Britain or Albert Ballin in Germany. Their behavior in all societies where they were treated humanely (Cordoba caliphate, Ottoman empire, Bismarck's Germany, ..) had been not only bearable, but exemplary (mostly).

    I know the interpretation that shoah was an extreme reaction to German Jewish anti-national parasitism & subversion during Weimar Germany period, but have not yet seen evidence for their supposed subversion/depravity at that era. On the contrary, Weimar Germany was one of the most creative & brilliant periods in human history, and Jews played a non-negligible role in that.

    So, I completely disagree that shoah was somehow extreme reaction to their atrocious activities. If we stick to verifiable & empirical history, this is something that need not have happened, an anomaly. Here I agree with Israeli publicist, historian & writer Amos Elon ( http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=95356BF180CBD5B3A19917A7167DC988 , short review here: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/the-pity-of-it-all-by-amos-elon-114277.html )


    Also, the majority of American jews had no experience of the Holocaust. I have Jewish friends who are fifth generation Americans, wealthy and secure, who fulfill anti-Semitic stereotypes of two hundred years ago to a tee. Enough of these experiences make you pause and think.
     
    OK, which stereotypes? If you mean caricatures a la Woody Allen, you're probably right. And ...?

    Jewish religious and cultural texts indisputably contain Jewish supremacist ideas and essentialist Manichean hostility towards non Jews of exactly the sort you condemn elsewhere. This is simply a matter of record and easily demonstrated. I hear this kind of talk around the dinner table every time I visit my childhood Jewish friends. It’s appalling, and its foolish to think this atmosphere has no effect even on secular jews.

    As for the drive for supremacy and dominance, this is found in many cultures. It seems special pleading to excuse jews from this basic human trait in principle. Europeans manifested this drive heavily in the modern period. And again, a simple appeal to Jewish cultural texts can resolve the matter, as well as even a casual acquaintance with modern Jewish attitudes. Jewish ambition is proverbial, and in in a country where at the topmost IQ levels jews are outnumbered eight to one it defies belief to see Jewish dominance in so many key fields as based on merit of as a mere accident.
     
    Again, I agree-to a point. For instance, their religious culture is essentially supremacist: there is no other spiritual tradition I know of that denies other people basically the same anthropological status in religious sense. In Kabbalah, which is esoteric extension of normative Judaism, only Jews possess divine portion of "soul". Others do not.

    Well, we know from different Gnostic religious traditions that they all aver there is split between empirical human psyche & essential, divine Self (Buddhata/Buddha Nature in Mahayana Buddhism, Atman in Vedanta Hinduism, Daimon or Nous in Greek religion, Inner Man and Christ Logos in (Neoplatonic) Christianity, Angel Christ in Christian Gnosticism, ruh/spirit and Perfect Nature in Neoplatonic variants of Islamic Sufism etc.). Only in Kabbalah & other variants of Judaism they deny that other humans are, basically, the same as they are. According to them, only Jews possess Neshamah (which is divine), or "upper layers" of Neshamah, like Chaya and Yechidah. Such religious arrogance & spiritual autism do not exist, as far as I know, anywhere else. For instance, see this (it is about the Talmud, but their religious "philosophy", at least traditional, is more or less the same elsewhere):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M60FUPVtq9k

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ji_Y7YEbKY

    But, where I disagree is that their arrogance can be somehow extracted from their traditional culture. Sure, adherents of traditional Judaism are not a sort of people I would care to have any relation to- but you are, in my opinion, wrong when you imply that their orthodox supremacism somehow rubs off on most of them. Most Jews simply don't know about this stuff & they've become universalists (sometimes, annoyingly so).

    In short, Jewish supremacism does exist, but: a) it is not realistic to derive it from their religious culture- most of them are even not aware of their heritage, b) it is not prevalent among them, statistically (if you look at them sociologically: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/jewish-american-beliefs-attitudes-culture-survey/ )

    And not being essentialists, we must view the drive for supremacy as subject to the cyclical nature of history, and manifest now in one people and now another, and not be a permanent feature of any one group, but always subject to the historical flux.
     
    Yes, but... I'm not much concerned with this issue. For instance, I think we whites are the best. We've created what is best in the world. We may go down in history, I don't know- but I still think we, as a group, are best looking, have best intellects, we're emotionally the most developed creatures on earth etc. Just, it doesn't mean we're free to exploit & demean others.

    And indeed I believe the most useful way to view modern jews is to see them as in their “empire” phase, a phase which cannot last. Corresponding with this or deriving from it, modern Jews have an incredibly dysfunctional culture of ambition, which creates incredible pressure and leads to abusive practices and much suffering, where one feels worthless in the eyes of one’s community if one isn’t wealthy or powerful.
     
    It's their problem, not mine. Those among them who look at others that way are bound to suffer: Nemesis follows Hubris.


    Finally, the Jewish attitude to money deserves special mention – it is utterly unlike the attitude of Catholics or Muslims, Buddhists or Hindus. Its closest analogues are with certain protestant sets and Mormons.
     
    Agreed.

    In summary, Jewish culture is in urgent need of serious reform, and as it stands encourages many negative traits. This is hardly unique to jews, of course. But neither can we view their culture in a benign light.
     
    I would respond with the question posed by Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism: What is Jewish culture? Does it exist at all? If you mean their stereotypical behavior, I don't know whether you're right or wrong, and to which extent this applies to the group of people we call "Jews".


    Now, this all adds up to a picture which, to my mind, paints jews as deserving of pity but also as a dangerous group that any host culture would be wise to be aware of and devise protections against, as not essentially bad but as being in a bad phase of their historical cycle, and as ultimately human and redeemable as the rest of us, but as the group who today most represents ego and materialism, and as such disproportionately responsible for most social ills that afflicts us today.
     
    History has shown they're not dangerous, both in Zoroastrian, Greco-Roman, Christian & Islamic worlds. What you wrote implies there is something basically wrong with them as an entity (such was, for instance, Marx's position). But, I disagree- universalism has conquered their particularism & only among most backward nuts we can find this type of behavior or world-view as you refer to.

    But, that's just my opinion. I may be wrong.
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  125. @Bardon Kaldian
    It is not antisemitic in any reasonable sense of the word (ignoring loony Jewish snowflakes), because:

    a) essentialist antisemites see Jews as an alien & unassimilable "race", inimical to the West by default (I am not talking about Arab-Islamic world, because the term "antisemitism" does not apply to Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is simply clash of two nationalisms). Empirical data don't bear them out: high levels of Jewish intermarriage with non-Jews (in Weimar Germany 25%-40%, in contemporary Russia perhaps 80%), their cultural assimilation to host societies & their contribution to adopted countries seem to corroborate Einstein's claim: If it were not for antisemitism, Jews would have dispersed like leaves in the wind.

    So, antisemitic world-view is a rigid dogma which cannot, due to emotional investment of an antisemite, be challenged in the real world.

    b) conspiratorial antisemites see them as an incredibly powerful monolithic bloc, something that also defies reason. Jews are one of those "great little nations", one which has acquired influence, prosperity & power on the wings of German cultural dominance from early 19th C on, and later in the US (mostly after WW II, if we exclude Hollywood). They have been very creative & influential in past, say, 150 years. But, so have been other ethnicities, in various fields & different periods. Life goes up & down. Conspiracy minded people attribute to Jews many historical & cultural currents/events where they'd been present, but were not the decisive factor: Communist revolution in Russian empire 1917; control of "international banking" (influential-yes, controlling-no); subversion of dominant morality through counter-culture of the 60s (nobody "planned" that); then, Frankfurt school myth (virtually all who write about so called Cultural Marxism do not know what this school of thought was about).

    c) diabolical antisemitism sees Jews as a kind of cancer, or non-human colony of parasitic swarm which will suck out life from the host-victim & move on, leaving a carcass. They are, according to this world-view, incarnation of Ahriman/Satan.

    Needless to say, I disagree with all these ideas. First, I don't consider Jewish people of Jewish ancestry, but not identity (Marx was a German of Jewish extraction & not a Jew); I don't see them as a monolithic body; I don't see them as negatively predisposed toward the West- on the contrary, most Jews (not just French, Italians, ..of (wholly or partially) Jewish ancestry) are productive & valuable citizens, and they do not conspire to overthrow the Western civilization (or Christianity); US neo-conservative imperialist adventures were not "engineered" by "Jews"-anyone with a minimum amount of brain cells cannot seriously think that Cheney or Rumsfeld were puppets of some Jewish conspiracy.

    It is true that a part of them- I'd say 10-20% are Jewish nationalists & actually foreigners in countries where they reside- but, they do not "rule" anywhere in the world. They don't rule in any European country; nor in China, nor in India; nor in Japan; nor in Russia; nor, for that matter, in the USA.

    As for Brazil- how can a country where blacks tend to rise well over 50% & where PC discourse is gaining foot, avoid collapse in a foreseeable future?

    Brandon Kaldian your comment as a Jewish apologist shows the effectivess of the PC lines the Jew led Society taught . You repeat them well . You only know the material , ” rational” , and think ” logical lines. Your comments hold the Jews up as just another ” people “. Absurd ! They are only .1 percent of world population. Yet the media ,culture , religion focuses on them 100 percent of the time ! They admit this power with bragging about ,” Jewish Century” etc . Nor is the Palestinian / Israeli conflict NOT ” two Nationalisms conflicting “. Marx came from a long line of Rabbis . International Jewry ,inspired by their exclusive diety YAHWEH who they are ” a Chosen People of ” , who’s divine attributes are ” jealousy”, lies ,” by deception thou shall do war ” , and ” Genocide ” , ” I am a vengeful God ” , promised his stateless tribe Caanan . He promised them rule of this planet from there . Not by mass ,or numbers but material gain. The original Palestinian population accepted a Jewish presence after the Romans finally kicked the Jews out in 70 AD . But as the ” Eternal Jew ” , conspired through the ages to subvert the Gentile World , through Finance Capitalism / Usury / Marxism ,which creates a Left / Right mechanism of rule ,they cannot allow Palastinian to have any right by divine mandate. Jews demand tolerance but have no ” tolerance ” of others .

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  126. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Anon

    The author in typical fashion makes an overblown generalization.
     
    No. However you - in typical fashion - spew a bunch of squid-ink.

    How do you explain Ms. Newman's penchant for advocating non-traditional lesbian familes for goys ( 'Heather' has two mommies - Jane and Kate ) whereas her jewish stories portray traditional jewish families - it's all Mom and the Torah and Apple Latkes. How do YOU explain that, schmuck?

    “How do you explain Ms. Newman’s penchant for advocating non-traditional lesbian familes for goys ( ‘Heather’ has two mommies – Jane and Kate ) whereas her jewish stories portray traditional jewish families – it’s all Mom and the Torah and Apple Latkes. How do YOU explain that, schmuck?”

    In the same way that the Alt Right advocates “race realism” and opposes “magic dirt”–extremist and out of touch with observable reality.

    And, Beefcake, all you are is a parrot. You use the same tired phrase over and over again. Get some new material.

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  127. Corvinus says:
    @Bubba
    LOL! The truth hurts so you neocons, BLM millennials & liberals can only resort to cry “racist!” You twits can’t even think for yourselves! Grow up and take a non-PC history and logic class. I’m a paleoconservative and things have never looked better for us in over 45 years. You millennials are in for a lifetime of troubles and as the black kids say, ‘It’s about to get real. ” Real bad that is for you. Lots of luck with your Gender Queer Study degrees and loaded with $100K+ in undischargeable debt! You’re going to be mugged by reality very shortly there boy.

    “LOL! The truth hurts so you neocons, BLM millennials & liberals can only resort to cry “racist!”

    Except I’m not an neocon, BLM millennials, or liberal. I am educated, married, white moderate man with children.

    “I’m a paleoconservative and things have never looked better for us in over 45 years.”

    A brand that is other than popular with the boys and girls of today. You are really going to have to make headway trying to indoctrinate them, I mean convince them, of your ideology. Best wishes to you.

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  128. @jilles dykstra
    A few more books on German ingenuity

    Eberhard Rössler, ‘U-Boottyp XXI’, Bonn 2008
    As the German technical war effort was hardly directed this type of advanced U boat just came into production in 1944, when Speer had got complete control.

    David Irving, ‘The rise and fall of the Luftwaffe’, Londen, 1973, 1976 (Die Tragödie der Deutschen Luftwaffe, Aus den Akten und Erinnerungen von Feldmarschall Erhard Milch, 1970, 1975, Frankfurt/M)
    How Udet and Göring made a mess of the German air force.
    When Milch got control, it was too late.

    Wolfgang Wagner, ´Die Deutsche Luftfahrt, Hugo Junkers, Pionier der Luftfahrt - seine Flugzeuge’, Bonn 1996

    JOHNSON, Brian, 'The Secret War', NY Methuen 1978
    In this book you find a host of inventions, such as a tv guided missile, and the rocket attack plane, of which USA footage exists, filmed from Flying Fortresses.

    Charles A. Lindbergh, ´The Wartime Journals of Charles A. Lindbergh’, New York, 1970
    Lindbergh toured Germany just after the capitulation, in order to see what he still could find of German technological developments.
    Very little, large scale looting by the allies.

    But quite interesting is his interview with a German dying in one of Eisenhower's open air death camps for POW's, with someone who had been developing an engine for the VIII, that should have reached the USA.
    James Bacque, ´Der geplante Tod, Deutsche Kriegsgefangene in amerikanischen und französischen Lagern 1945 – 1946, Frankfurt/M, 1989, 1994 (Other losses, Toronto, 1989)

    I’m glad you understand German advances, now copied , stolen, or repressed. The USA / Soviets did loot Germany . Operation Paperclip . Lindburgh wanted to look good after the war he had properly opposed ! Himmler visited Pennemunde alone ,” Drove his own BMW onto the Ferry ” , and backed the program. Hitler made no wartime visits . Milch ,Speer ,von Below his Luftwaffe aide went in person many times . Dornburger in the employ of the USA after the War needed a good story . Hitler always pulled highly decorated warriors from the line ,” you have done enough ” , he would say . He wanted Tiger Ace Michael Wittman out of the line . Wittman refused and was killed . The medal Hitler awarded Rudel was the only one . The Knights Cross in Gold ,which already included the Oak Leaves and Diamonds . So desperate for an interesting man of action to succeed him , Hitler breifly considered the dynamic 29 year old Rudel . He was looking to preserve great people for the post war . Of course he knew the men’s youth ,and Oberst rank was to low . Admiral Doenitz ,was the Fuhrer excellent choice . ” He might salvage something”.

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    What is your alcohol promillage now ?
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  129. Mulegino1 says:
    @VickPM
    There is a common thread in this and Joyce's last UNZ article about the Jesuits being a Jewish movement that infiltrated and perverted christendom. We all know that the catholic priesthood and christian clergy as a whole is a den of homosexuals and lesbians. Modern christendom has been infiltrated at the clerical level by homosexuals and lesbian. Hetero males and females have abandoned church organizations in the US and Europe. Men abdicate their roles where the homos and lesbians roam. So how did this transformation happen?

    Joyce has written on the subject of homosexuality and the nativist white movement extensively arguing that homosexuality must be actively eschewed for non morality based reasons. Traditional Levitical reasons - i.e. the Hebrew/Jewish religious morality that is historically anti homosexual has no place in Joyce's scientological scheming.

    This brings us to the Jesuit 'synagogue. The Jesuit movement was evidently founded by crypto Jews. Many of these cryptos were actually married men who converted to cathlolicism. Early on the Jesuit movement was not homosexual. It was crypto Jewish hetero. According to the work reviewed in UNZ by Joyce (R.A. Maryks) the crypto Jewish founders were driven from the Jesuits. This movement now purified of Jewish influence somehow has evolved into the homosexual protectorate that marks all western christian clergy.

    According to data reviewed by Joyce the Jesuit founding was a movement of Spanish crypto Jews. Prior to the holocaust the biggest disaster that befell the Jews as a group was the 'expulsion' from Spain. The expulsion was actually a political process that took place over several centuries where as the Jewish community became more fully integrated into the Spanish political hierarchy popular resentment against Jews as a group grew. Without getting into too many details the important nuance to understand for Spain at the time is that Jews were NOT citizens of Spain. They were protected by the monarchy. Situated as guests they were loyal to the crown as tax collectors notaries and other pseudo officers that regularly interacted in the space of exchange between the crown and common gentile subjects. Naturally resentments arose between these Royal guests imposing the will of the crown on the gentiles. The Crown could trust the Jews to turn over the collected taxes because of their status and came to rely upon Jews because of their education based skills - ability to read AND write (communicate) - something Jews were always skilled at and ahead of the common gentile.

    (Writing as an intellectual skill separated the Jew in Europe from the commoner. Writing was the high communication technology of all time until the electronic age. More Jews per capita could write as compared to their gentle contemporaries. This skill allowed for their survival success. Where writing as a skill was limited to the academy and clergy among gentiles the activity was crucial and highly valued and respected along with scholarship in the Jewish community as a whole. On tbe other hand such intellectual activities were disparaged by the common gentile as 'Jewish'.)

    Common gentile popular resentment of the Jewish class in Spain was taken up by catholic leadership and this common political alliance brought pressure on the Spanish crown to distance itself from the Jewish community. This clearly caused disruptions in the Jewish community. Jews were persecuted and either left Spain went 'underground' or converted. Many Jews who were successfully ensconced in Spanish institutions converted to catholicism. But while tbey converted they kept their positions with the Spanish crown and continued on as the skilled 'new christian' class that served the royals. Resentment grew between old and new Christians - the dynamic did not change. The new christians were resented as secret judaizers. The Inquisition was established to root out the judaizers among the new christians and many were purged from social and religious orders (Jesuits) and ultimately expelled from Spain.

    So Joyce MUST ask why homosexuality flourished among the Jesuits after the Jews were purged from the movement? Indeed homosexuality has ALWAYS been held in disdain and as morally corrupt and degenerate by traditional Judaism. Yet the Greco Roman seed of homosexuality has been firmly planted in white gentile Europe and waxes in all European institutions - religious governmental and secular - in spite of the anti Jewish purification movements undertaken by traditional Europeans. Here one must note that the LARGEST and most successful Nazi institution - the S.A. - was organized and headed by a German homosexual faggot cabal headed by an avowed and admitted homosexual Ernst Rohm. The S.A. was hardly Jewish!

    Joyce like many alpha gentiles seeks intellectual refuge in a pseudo racial white movement. More like a sophisticated paranoia than a philosophy Joyce has a Jewish persecution complex where Jews sleep with him under his bed and in his children's books. He refuses to recognize the homosexual germ planted in his nordic 'people' by the greco-roman western traditions. Traditional Judaism holds homosexuality in utter disdain and views the advancement of institutionalized homosexuality with alarm.

    A glaring example of Euro-homosexuality is the emergence of same sex union rights and then full legal same sex marriage well before the USA followed suit. At the forefront of this Euro abomination were Nordic types and not Jews. Indeed Europe is essentially judenrein and cultural leadership on the European continent is anti-Jewish.

    Joyce thinking is obviously Jewish paranoid. The Jesuits purged the crypto Jews and emerged as a bastion of buggery. Western Europe led 'progressed' to the legalization of same sex marriage - wholly repugnant to Jewish based tradition. A few childrens books commented on by Joyce appears to be a false conatruct. The dramatic homosexual movements that invaded the chrostoan clergy and now legalized marriage started in judenrein Westerm Europe - home to the nordic types Joyce believes to be pure when indeed those types are wholly infected with the greco-roman homosexual germ.

    Traditional Talmudism not only does not condemn homosexuality, it virtually endorses it, along with pedophilia!

    Paleo-Hebrew culture and religion- as articulated in the Pentateuch – did indeed condemn sodomy and all forms of homosexuality, but that has almost nothing to do with contemporary Orthoxox Judaism, which is based almost entirely on the Babylonian Talmud, the establishment of its canon post-dating that of the New Testament by centuries. The religion of “Judaism” is actually a Pharisaical response to the rise of Christianity- a rejectionist cult which has little to do with the real religion of Moses, the Patriarchs and the Prophets. Christ was not a Jew, He was a Judean- Iudeos. A Judean was one who accepted the Temple in Jerusalem in Judea as the authentic location of the true worship of the Old Covenant, as opposed to, say, the Samaritans, who believed that the true temple was on Mt. Gerizim.

    The incidence of pedophilia and homosexuality in the Orthodox Hasidic community of New York statistically dwarfs that of traditional Catholic organizations. At the very least, Catholic ritual does not include as repulsive and disgusting act (and which is the equivalent of child molestation) as that conducted at an Orthodox bris.

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    Pure uneducated nonsense. All christendom knows that Jesus was a Jew. There is not one priest or pastor who would tell you otherwise. Jesus came to fulfill the Jewish law to provide the vessel of forgiveness for those not born into the covenant. Christian theology holds this fulfillment of Jewish law allows grace for those who accept him as their lord and savior.

    Circumcision is not mutiliation. It is an ancient ritual practice that has come under attack for as long as it has been practiced. The ancient homosexual greeks outlawed circumcision along with the modern day Russian Communists. The anti-circumcision cudgel has been taken up by the secular cult Marxists.

    Yet the cult Marxists homos like Mulegino1 do endorse trans gender surgery including the removal of male gonads from someone who thinks he is a woman caught in a man body! This is the mutilation that MuleGino1 approves of !
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  130. @AaronB
    I agree with you that McDonald is ahistorical. An essentialist, by definition, deals in timeless essences and must disregard the flux of history. I also don't t see white creativity of the modern period or more recent white universalism and altruism as timeless essences.

    All such theories are farcical and must simply ignore the historical record to create comforting certainties. It's a search for an anchor in an unstable world. Understandable, but stupid.

    So I'm quite prepared to agree with you that Jews are not a monolithic group with an unchanging character the majority of whose members are locked in a timeless war against Europeans, sort of like the gods and giants of Norse mythology.

    However, I have significant disagreements with you. I think a much larger segment of jews see themselves as at war then you do, and I think you paint Jewish motivations far too benign a light and underplay - or are perhaps ignorant of - the sinister aspects of jewish culture and religion, which I am only all too acquainted with.

    WW2 cannot be a significant factor in Jewish behavior as this behavior antedates it. The literary and historical record shows a striking unanimity in descriptions of jewish behavior from at least a few hundred years back. While the Holocaust is obviously indefensible, it was a reaction to Jewish behavior, just as Pearl Harbor was not just a spontaneous attack by the nefarious japanese. To see it otherwise is to think in essentialist and Manichean terms, just with the bad guys and good guys reversed.

    Also, the majority of American jews had no experience of the Holocaust. I have Jewish friends who are fifth generation Americans, wealthy and secure, who fulfill anti-Semitic stereotypes of two hundred years ago to a tee. Enough of these experiences make you pause and think.

    Jewish religious and cultural texts indisputably contain Jewish supremacist ideas and essentialist Manichean hostility towards non Jews of exactly the sort you condemn elsewhere. This is simply a matter of record and easily demonstrated. I hear this kind of talk around the dinner table every time I visit my childhood Jewish friends. It's appaling, and its foolish to think this atmosphere has no effect even on secular jews.

    As for the drive for supremacy and dominance, this is found in many cultures. It seems special pleading to excuse jews from this basic human trait in principle. Europeans manifested this drive heavily in the modern period. And again, a simple appeal to Jewish cultural texts can resolve the matter, as well as even a casual acquaintance with modern Jewish attitudes. Jewish ambition is proverbial, and in in a country where at the topmost IQ levels jews are outnumbered eight to one it defies belief to see Jewish dominance in so many key fields as based on merit of as a mere accident.

    Of course, there is a sense in which all drive for supremacy and dominance is based on insecurity and fear, and I like to make this point all the time. And this applies to both jews and Europeans.

    And not being essentialists, we must view the drive for supremacy as subject to the cyclical nature of history, and manifest now in one people and now another, and not be a permanent feature of any one group, but always subject to the historical flux.

    And indeed I believe the most useful way to view modern jews is to see them as in their "empire" phase, a phase which cannot last. Corresponding with this or deriving from it, modern Jews have an incredibly dysfunctional culture of ambition, which creates incredible pressure and leads to abusive practices and much suffering, where one feels worthless in the eyes of one's community if one isn't wealthy or powerful.

    Finally, the Jewish attitude to money deserves special mention - it is utterly unlike the attitude of Catholics or Muslims, Buddhists or Hindus. Its closest analogues are with certain protestant sets and Mormons.

    In summary, Jewish culture is in urgent need of serious reform, and as it stands encourages many negative traits. This is hardly unique to jews, of course. But neither can we view their culture in a benign light.

    Now, this all adds up to a picture which, to my mind, paints jews as deserving of pity but also as a dangerous group that any host culture would be wise to be aware of and devise protections against, as not essentially bad but as being in a bad phase of their historical cycle, and as ultimately human and redeemable as the rest of us, but as the group who today most represents ego and materialism, and as such disproportionately responsible for most social ills that afflicts us today.

    However, I have significant disagreements with you. I think a much larger segment of jews see themselves as at war then you do, and I think you paint Jewish motivations far too benign a light and underplay – or are perhaps ignorant of – the sinister aspects of jewish culture and religion, which I am only all too acquainted with.

    OK, let’s see.

    WW2 cannot be a significant factor in Jewish behavior as this behavior antedates it. The literary and historical record shows a striking unanimity in descriptions of jewish behavior from at least a few hundred years back. While the Holocaust is obviously indefensible, it was a reaction to Jewish behavior, just as Pearl Harbor was not just a spontaneous attack by the nefarious japanese. To see it otherwise is to think in essentialist and Manichean terms, just with the bad guys and good guys reversed.

    Where do you have this Jewish behavior info from? I don’t think history corroborates such a statement. For instance, Jews got pretty well in Ottoman empire, one Jew-I forgot his name- was the Grand Vizier in the 16th C. He was a very successful statesman & enriched his adopted country. The same could be said of Disraeli in Britain or Albert Ballin in Germany. Their behavior in all societies where they were treated humanely (Cordoba caliphate, Ottoman empire, Bismarck’s Germany, ..) had been not only bearable, but exemplary (mostly).

    I know the interpretation that shoah was an extreme reaction to German Jewish anti-national parasitism & subversion during Weimar Germany period, but have not yet seen evidence for their supposed subversion/depravity at that era. On the contrary, Weimar Germany was one of the most creative & brilliant periods in human history, and Jews played a non-negligible role in that.

    So, I completely disagree that shoah was somehow extreme reaction to their atrocious activities. If we stick to verifiable & empirical history, this is something that need not have happened, an anomaly. Here I agree with Israeli publicist, historian & writer Amos Elon ( http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=95356BF180CBD5B3A19917A7167DC988 , short review here: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/the-pity-of-it-all-by-amos-elon-114277.html )

    Also, the majority of American jews had no experience of the Holocaust. I have Jewish friends who are fifth generation Americans, wealthy and secure, who fulfill anti-Semitic stereotypes of two hundred years ago to a tee. Enough of these experiences make you pause and think.

    OK, which stereotypes? If you mean caricatures a la Woody Allen, you’re probably right. And …?

    Jewish religious and cultural texts indisputably contain Jewish supremacist ideas and essentialist Manichean hostility towards non Jews of exactly the sort you condemn elsewhere. This is simply a matter of record and easily demonstrated. I hear this kind of talk around the dinner table every time I visit my childhood Jewish friends. It’s appalling, and its foolish to think this atmosphere has no effect even on secular jews.

    As for the drive for supremacy and dominance, this is found in many cultures. It seems special pleading to excuse jews from this basic human trait in principle. Europeans manifested this drive heavily in the modern period. And again, a simple appeal to Jewish cultural texts can resolve the matter, as well as even a casual acquaintance with modern Jewish attitudes. Jewish ambition is proverbial, and in in a country where at the topmost IQ levels jews are outnumbered eight to one it defies belief to see Jewish dominance in so many key fields as based on merit of as a mere accident.

    Again, I agree-to a point. For instance, their religious culture is essentially supremacist: there is no other spiritual tradition I know of that denies other people basically the same anthropological status in religious sense. In Kabbalah, which is esoteric extension of normative Judaism, only Jews possess divine portion of “soul”. Others do not.

    Well, we know from different Gnostic religious traditions that they all aver there is split between empirical human psyche & essential, divine Self (Buddhata/Buddha Nature in Mahayana Buddhism, Atman in Vedanta Hinduism, Daimon or Nous in Greek religion, Inner Man and Christ Logos in (Neoplatonic) Christianity, Angel Christ in Christian Gnosticism, ruh/spirit and Perfect Nature in Neoplatonic variants of Islamic Sufism etc.). Only in Kabbalah & other variants of Judaism they deny that other humans are, basically, the same as they are. According to them, only Jews possess Neshamah (which is divine), or “upper layers” of Neshamah, like Chaya and Yechidah. Such religious arrogance & spiritual autism do not exist, as far as I know, anywhere else. For instance, see this (it is about the Talmud, but their religious “philosophy”, at least traditional, is more or less the same elsewhere):

    But, where I disagree is that their arrogance can be somehow extracted from their traditional culture. Sure, adherents of traditional Judaism are not a sort of people I would care to have any relation to- but you are, in my opinion, wrong when you imply that their orthodox supremacism somehow rubs off on most of them. Most Jews simply don’t know about this stuff & they’ve become universalists (sometimes, annoyingly so).

    In short, Jewish supremacism does exist, but: a) it is not realistic to derive it from their religious culture- most of them are even not aware of their heritage, b) it is not prevalent among them, statistically (if you look at them sociologically: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/jewish-american-beliefs-attitudes-culture-survey/ )

    And not being essentialists, we must view the drive for supremacy as subject to the cyclical nature of history, and manifest now in one people and now another, and not be a permanent feature of any one group, but always subject to the historical flux.

    Yes, but… I’m not much concerned with this issue. For instance, I think we whites are the best. We’ve created what is best in the world. We may go down in history, I don’t know- but I still think we, as a group, are best looking, have best intellects, we’re emotionally the most developed creatures on earth etc. Just, it doesn’t mean we’re free to exploit & demean others.

    And indeed I believe the most useful way to view modern jews is to see them as in their “empire” phase, a phase which cannot last. Corresponding with this or deriving from it, modern Jews have an incredibly dysfunctional culture of ambition, which creates incredible pressure and leads to abusive practices and much suffering, where one feels worthless in the eyes of one’s community if one isn’t wealthy or powerful.

    It’s their problem, not mine. Those among them who look at others that way are bound to suffer: Nemesis follows Hubris.

    Finally, the Jewish attitude to money deserves special mention – it is utterly unlike the attitude of Catholics or Muslims, Buddhists or Hindus. Its closest analogues are with certain protestant sets and Mormons.

    Agreed.

    In summary, Jewish culture is in urgent need of serious reform, and as it stands encourages many negative traits. This is hardly unique to jews, of course. But neither can we view their culture in a benign light.

    I would respond with the question posed by Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism: What is Jewish culture? Does it exist at all? If you mean their stereotypical behavior, I don’t know whether you’re right or wrong, and to which extent this applies to the group of people we call “Jews”.

    Now, this all adds up to a picture which, to my mind, paints jews as deserving of pity but also as a dangerous group that any host culture would be wise to be aware of and devise protections against, as not essentially bad but as being in a bad phase of their historical cycle, and as ultimately human and redeemable as the rest of us, but as the group who today most represents ego and materialism, and as such disproportionately responsible for most social ills that afflicts us today.

    History has shown they’re not dangerous, both in Zoroastrian, Greco-Roman, Christian & Islamic worlds. What you wrote implies there is something basically wrong with them as an entity (such was, for instance, Marx’s position). But, I disagree- universalism has conquered their particularism & only among most backward nuts we can find this type of behavior or world-view as you refer to.

    But, that’s just my opinion. I may be wrong.

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    Thank you for linking to those "Ask an Israeli" videos, those are fascinating.
    , @AaronB
    Well, you introduce a refreshing element of moderation into this subject. And your old fashioned commitment to reason and balance is appreciated :)

    The subject is vast, and each must decide for himself. Mcdonald provides a decent survey of descriptions of Jewish behavior from pre-war sources, if your interested.

    I am more extreme than you on this subject, maybe because growing up in the Jewish community I'm very familiar with Jewish culture, attitudes, and behavior.

    What I found striking was how personal experience was corroborated from so many diverse sources from so many different periods.

    There is definitely something very wrong with the Jewish community today that is unlike other communities - my personal thesis is that Jews, as a somewhat unusual nation, are in the expansionist, predatory phase of their civilizational arc, while whites are in the deflationary, contractive phase.

    The same was the case with Germany. Schopenhauer, Wagner, etc show that Germans were exiting their expansionist phase, and the presence of Jews created unbearable stresses.

    The lesson of history is that two groups at opposite poles of their historical cycle cannot coexist amicably together. One will exploit and prey on the other, provoking a violent and unpredictable response.

    Europeans and Asians were in a similar relationship until recently.

    You keep on saying this represents a minority of Jews - maybe, but a significant and motivated minority.

    This point of yours is more destructive of the essentialist position which sees Jews as a monolith - indeed it's a useful corrective to that.

    But the truth lies somewhere in between it seems to me, and your view is far too benign, in my view.

    I wonder if as an old fashioned humanist you balk at seeing evil in the world and search for reasonable explanations.

    I have learned to see evil in the world, not as embodied in any one people, but as a Spirit which seizes upon different groups at different times.

    Time and experience has radicalized me, but I find your humanism refreshing, and I regret that I can no longer believe in it.

    I enjoyed your intelligent remarks.
    , @daniel le mouche
    Very interesting videos, thank you. One thing that especially struck me: that Judaism is a religion of peace, and that the goys at that time were mostly pagan, and very immoral. I cannot help but see truth in that judging from my recent reading of Homer.
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  131. VickPM says:
    @Mulegino1
    Traditional Talmudism not only does not condemn homosexuality, it virtually endorses it, along with pedophilia!

    Paleo-Hebrew culture and religion- as articulated in the Pentateuch - did indeed condemn sodomy and all forms of homosexuality, but that has almost nothing to do with contemporary Orthoxox Judaism, which is based almost entirely on the Babylonian Talmud, the establishment of its canon post-dating that of the New Testament by centuries. The religion of "Judaism" is actually a Pharisaical response to the rise of Christianity- a rejectionist cult which has little to do with the real religion of Moses, the Patriarchs and the Prophets. Christ was not a Jew, He was a Judean- Iudeos. A Judean was one who accepted the Temple in Jerusalem in Judea as the authentic location of the true worship of the Old Covenant, as opposed to, say, the Samaritans, who believed that the true temple was on Mt. Gerizim.


    The incidence of pedophilia and homosexuality in the Orthodox Hasidic community of New York statistically dwarfs that of traditional Catholic organizations. At the very least, Catholic ritual does not include as repulsive and disgusting act (and which is the equivalent of child molestation) as that conducted at an Orthodox bris.

    Pure uneducated nonsense. All christendom knows that Jesus was a Jew. There is not one priest or pastor who would tell you otherwise. Jesus came to fulfill the Jewish law to provide the vessel of forgiveness for those not born into the covenant. Christian theology holds this fulfillment of Jewish law allows grace for those who accept him as their lord and savior.

    Circumcision is not mutiliation. It is an ancient ritual practice that has come under attack for as long as it has been practiced. The ancient homosexual greeks outlawed circumcision along with the modern day Russian Communists. The anti-circumcision cudgel has been taken up by the secular cult Marxists.

    Yet the cult Marxists homos like Mulegino1 do endorse trans gender surgery including the removal of male gonads from someone who thinks he is a woman caught in a man body! This is the mutilation that MuleGino1 approves of !

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    Circumcision is not mutiliation. It is an ancient ritual practice that has come under attack for as long as it has been practiced. The ancient homosexual greeks outlawed circumcision along with the modern day Russian Communists. The anti-circumcision cudgel has been taken up by the secular cult Marxists.

     

    Wtf..... don't mess with my schlong ! Verboten.
    , @Mulegino1
    It is obvious that you do not understand the historical evolution of the word "Jew." Christ was not a "Jew" in the contemporary sense of the typical deli owner or beard in Brooklyn, but because, as a "Judean" or "Iudeos" He believed that the true Israelites (not the much later Talmudists) worshiped at the Temple in Jerusalem and not on Mt. Gerizim, as the Samaritans believed. Contemporary Judaism is based almost entirely on the Babylonian Talmud, which- when compared to other sacred texts of the great religions- is the greatest pile of scatological and perverse rubbish ever assembled in literary form. Christ totally and explicitly rejected the party of the Pharisees, who are the founders of what we know as "Orthodox Judaism."

    The Samaritans, the Falashas and the Karaites - who are NOT considered Jews, by the way- are patrilineal. They accept only the Pentateuch as Sacred Scripture and categorically reject the Talmud. The Talmud was composed in the neo-Hebraic script of Babylon, not in the Paleo-Hebraic script as is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls and at Cumran. And it is a well known fact that the version of the Old Testament most often quoted in the New Testament by Christ and the Apostles is the Septuagint - the most ancient extant entire copy of the Old Testament- compiled in the 4th Century B.C. under the Seleucids.

    Many of the Talmudic Massoretic texts were falsified by the neo-Hebraic translators in the Medieval in order to completely distort the prophecies relating to Christ, e.g., the Septuagint's " A Virgin ("Parthenos" in the Septuagint) shall conceive and bear a son..." which, in the Massoretic text became a "A young maiden of marriagable age (Almah in the neo-Hebrew tex) shall conceive and bear a son" (What is miraculous about the latter?). Another gross falsification is from Psalm 23 or 22 (differs by versions) which, in the Septuagint reads, "They have pierced my hands and my feet; they have counted all my bones" a clear reference to the Crucifixion, whereas the Massoretic text reads, "My hands and my feet- like a lion."

    Contemporary Judaism postdates Christianity by centuries.

    The homosexual agenda and Transgenderism have been brought to the ancestral lands of Christendom by Jewish controlled media counterculture, not by Greco-Romans.

    , @Liza
    @Vick. The anti-circumcision cudgel has been taken up by the secular cult Marxists.

    Yes, a lot of them are commies. And they are covering up what circumcision is really all about and have no interest in actually seeing it banned. They are just making a lot of noise.
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  132. The ancient homosexual greeks outlawed circumcision along with the modern day Russian Communists. The anti-circumcision cudgel has been taken up by the secular cult Marxists.

    https://oca.org/questions/teaching/circumcision

    I guess Russian and other Orthodox believers are…. Marxists. Man, live and learn.

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  133. Given that Russians had just been murdered by the millions by those following the secular Jewish doctrine called Communism, given the fact that over 1200 of fewer than 1500 seats on the Berlin Stock Exchange were in Jewish hands when the market crashed in 1929, and given the fact that without the secular Jews there would never have been an atomic bomb by the end of the Second World War, since all the major scientists who built the bomb for the Americans and the Russians were Jews, given all of these historical realities a the time, perhaps the idea that the Nazis were totally mad monsters attacking an innocent minority should be moderated a little. Yes, history will continue to paint the Nazi disaster as dark and racist, but there is no way that future generations in lands not dominated by Jewish bankers and media will not see two sides to this issue. The Germans were right to oppose being taken over the way Russia had been, the way Britain and America are today.

    Go to Israel and talk with the people on the streets for a few days. Over and over, day after day, people will say if you ask them about their beliefs: “I do not believe in God at all. Judaism is not my religion; it is my race.” I guarantee you if you visited Israel for a month and South Carolina for a month and talked with the people, you would encounter far far more blatant racist attitudes among the Israelis, but the Jewish-run American media continue to use the Southerners, like the Germans, as a whipping boy.

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    Body count reality check: 65000000 people were killed as a result of WWII. Only 6 million were Jews. Looks like the rest of Europe took the biggest hit.....inclufing Germany that was utterly defeated and crawling on hands and knees eating dung for decades all because of ......?
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  134. @VickPM
    Pure uneducated nonsense. All christendom knows that Jesus was a Jew. There is not one priest or pastor who would tell you otherwise. Jesus came to fulfill the Jewish law to provide the vessel of forgiveness for those not born into the covenant. Christian theology holds this fulfillment of Jewish law allows grace for those who accept him as their lord and savior.

    Circumcision is not mutiliation. It is an ancient ritual practice that has come under attack for as long as it has been practiced. The ancient homosexual greeks outlawed circumcision along with the modern day Russian Communists. The anti-circumcision cudgel has been taken up by the secular cult Marxists.

    Yet the cult Marxists homos like Mulegino1 do endorse trans gender surgery including the removal of male gonads from someone who thinks he is a woman caught in a man body! This is the mutilation that MuleGino1 approves of !

    Circumcision is not mutiliation. It is an ancient ritual practice that has come under attack for as long as it has been practiced. The ancient homosexual greeks outlawed circumcision along with the modern day Russian Communists. The anti-circumcision cudgel has been taken up by the secular cult Marxists.

    Wtf….. don’t mess with my schlong ! Verboten.

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    circumcision is "male genital mutilation, the same thing as "female genital mutilation" BOTH should be outlawed as barbaric practices...
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  135. @Bardon Kaldian


    However, I have significant disagreements with you. I think a much larger segment of jews see themselves as at war then you do, and I think you paint Jewish motivations far too benign a light and underplay – or are perhaps ignorant of – the sinister aspects of jewish culture and religion, which I am only all too acquainted with.
     
    OK, let's see.

    WW2 cannot be a significant factor in Jewish behavior as this behavior antedates it. The literary and historical record shows a striking unanimity in descriptions of jewish behavior from at least a few hundred years back. While the Holocaust is obviously indefensible, it was a reaction to Jewish behavior, just as Pearl Harbor was not just a spontaneous attack by the nefarious japanese. To see it otherwise is to think in essentialist and Manichean terms, just with the bad guys and good guys reversed.
     
    Where do you have this Jewish behavior info from? I don't think history corroborates such a statement. For instance, Jews got pretty well in Ottoman empire, one Jew-I forgot his name- was the Grand Vizier in the 16th C. He was a very successful statesman & enriched his adopted country. The same could be said of Disraeli in Britain or Albert Ballin in Germany. Their behavior in all societies where they were treated humanely (Cordoba caliphate, Ottoman empire, Bismarck's Germany, ..) had been not only bearable, but exemplary (mostly).

    I know the interpretation that shoah was an extreme reaction to German Jewish anti-national parasitism & subversion during Weimar Germany period, but have not yet seen evidence for their supposed subversion/depravity at that era. On the contrary, Weimar Germany was one of the most creative & brilliant periods in human history, and Jews played a non-negligible role in that.

    So, I completely disagree that shoah was somehow extreme reaction to their atrocious activities. If we stick to verifiable & empirical history, this is something that need not have happened, an anomaly. Here I agree with Israeli publicist, historian & writer Amos Elon ( http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=95356BF180CBD5B3A19917A7167DC988 , short review here: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/the-pity-of-it-all-by-amos-elon-114277.html )


    Also, the majority of American jews had no experience of the Holocaust. I have Jewish friends who are fifth generation Americans, wealthy and secure, who fulfill anti-Semitic stereotypes of two hundred years ago to a tee. Enough of these experiences make you pause and think.
     
    OK, which stereotypes? If you mean caricatures a la Woody Allen, you're probably right. And ...?

    Jewish religious and cultural texts indisputably contain Jewish supremacist ideas and essentialist Manichean hostility towards non Jews of exactly the sort you condemn elsewhere. This is simply a matter of record and easily demonstrated. I hear this kind of talk around the dinner table every time I visit my childhood Jewish friends. It’s appalling, and its foolish to think this atmosphere has no effect even on secular jews.

    As for the drive for supremacy and dominance, this is found in many cultures. It seems special pleading to excuse jews from this basic human trait in principle. Europeans manifested this drive heavily in the modern period. And again, a simple appeal to Jewish cultural texts can resolve the matter, as well as even a casual acquaintance with modern Jewish attitudes. Jewish ambition is proverbial, and in in a country where at the topmost IQ levels jews are outnumbered eight to one it defies belief to see Jewish dominance in so many key fields as based on merit of as a mere accident.
     
    Again, I agree-to a point. For instance, their religious culture is essentially supremacist: there is no other spiritual tradition I know of that denies other people basically the same anthropological status in religious sense. In Kabbalah, which is esoteric extension of normative Judaism, only Jews possess divine portion of "soul". Others do not.

    Well, we know from different Gnostic religious traditions that they all aver there is split between empirical human psyche & essential, divine Self (Buddhata/Buddha Nature in Mahayana Buddhism, Atman in Vedanta Hinduism, Daimon or Nous in Greek religion, Inner Man and Christ Logos in (Neoplatonic) Christianity, Angel Christ in Christian Gnosticism, ruh/spirit and Perfect Nature in Neoplatonic variants of Islamic Sufism etc.). Only in Kabbalah & other variants of Judaism they deny that other humans are, basically, the same as they are. According to them, only Jews possess Neshamah (which is divine), or "upper layers" of Neshamah, like Chaya and Yechidah. Such religious arrogance & spiritual autism do not exist, as far as I know, anywhere else. For instance, see this (it is about the Talmud, but their religious "philosophy", at least traditional, is more or less the same elsewhere):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M60FUPVtq9k

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ji_Y7YEbKY

    But, where I disagree is that their arrogance can be somehow extracted from their traditional culture. Sure, adherents of traditional Judaism are not a sort of people I would care to have any relation to- but you are, in my opinion, wrong when you imply that their orthodox supremacism somehow rubs off on most of them. Most Jews simply don't know about this stuff & they've become universalists (sometimes, annoyingly so).

    In short, Jewish supremacism does exist, but: a) it is not realistic to derive it from their religious culture- most of them are even not aware of their heritage, b) it is not prevalent among them, statistically (if you look at them sociologically: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/jewish-american-beliefs-attitudes-culture-survey/ )

    And not being essentialists, we must view the drive for supremacy as subject to the cyclical nature of history, and manifest now in one people and now another, and not be a permanent feature of any one group, but always subject to the historical flux.
     
    Yes, but... I'm not much concerned with this issue. For instance, I think we whites are the best. We've created what is best in the world. We may go down in history, I don't know- but I still think we, as a group, are best looking, have best intellects, we're emotionally the most developed creatures on earth etc. Just, it doesn't mean we're free to exploit & demean others.

    And indeed I believe the most useful way to view modern jews is to see them as in their “empire” phase, a phase which cannot last. Corresponding with this or deriving from it, modern Jews have an incredibly dysfunctional culture of ambition, which creates incredible pressure and leads to abusive practices and much suffering, where one feels worthless in the eyes of one’s community if one isn’t wealthy or powerful.
     
    It's their problem, not mine. Those among them who look at others that way are bound to suffer: Nemesis follows Hubris.


    Finally, the Jewish attitude to money deserves special mention – it is utterly unlike the attitude of Catholics or Muslims, Buddhists or Hindus. Its closest analogues are with certain protestant sets and Mormons.
     
    Agreed.

    In summary, Jewish culture is in urgent need of serious reform, and as it stands encourages many negative traits. This is hardly unique to jews, of course. But neither can we view their culture in a benign light.
     
    I would respond with the question posed by Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism: What is Jewish culture? Does it exist at all? If you mean their stereotypical behavior, I don't know whether you're right or wrong, and to which extent this applies to the group of people we call "Jews".


    Now, this all adds up to a picture which, to my mind, paints jews as deserving of pity but also as a dangerous group that any host culture would be wise to be aware of and devise protections against, as not essentially bad but as being in a bad phase of their historical cycle, and as ultimately human and redeemable as the rest of us, but as the group who today most represents ego and materialism, and as such disproportionately responsible for most social ills that afflicts us today.
     
    History has shown they're not dangerous, both in Zoroastrian, Greco-Roman, Christian & Islamic worlds. What you wrote implies there is something basically wrong with them as an entity (such was, for instance, Marx's position). But, I disagree- universalism has conquered their particularism & only among most backward nuts we can find this type of behavior or world-view as you refer to.

    But, that's just my opinion. I may be wrong.

    Thank you for linking to those “Ask an Israeli” videos, those are fascinating.

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    Corey Gil-Shuster has got many funny & enlightening videos. Here are some on various topics. ..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QzOcHAWeno

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6N9WigRwc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DwvdjWF5t8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WFyPStWFnI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9aQARe-Ftg
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  136. Mulegino1 says:
    @VickPM
    Pure uneducated nonsense. All christendom knows that Jesus was a Jew. There is not one priest or pastor who would tell you otherwise. Jesus came to fulfill the Jewish law to provide the vessel of forgiveness for those not born into the covenant. Christian theology holds this fulfillment of Jewish law allows grace for those who accept him as their lord and savior.

    Circumcision is not mutiliation. It is an ancient ritual practice that has come under attack for as long as it has been practiced. The ancient homosexual greeks outlawed circumcision along with the modern day Russian Communists. The anti-circumcision cudgel has been taken up by the secular cult Marxists.

    Yet the cult Marxists homos like Mulegino1 do endorse trans gender surgery including the removal of male gonads from someone who thinks he is a woman caught in a man body! This is the mutilation that MuleGino1 approves of !

    It is obvious that you do not understand the historical evolution of the word “Jew.” Christ was not a “Jew” in the contemporary sense of the typical deli owner or beard in Brooklyn, but because, as a “Judean” or “Iudeos” He believed that the true Israelites (not the much later Talmudists) worshiped at the Temple in Jerusalem and not on Mt. Gerizim, as the Samaritans believed. Contemporary Judaism is based almost entirely on the Babylonian Talmud, which- when compared to other sacred texts of the great religions- is the greatest pile of scatological and perverse rubbish ever assembled in literary form. Christ totally and explicitly rejected the party of the Pharisees, who are the founders of what we know as “Orthodox Judaism.”

    The Samaritans, the Falashas and the Karaites – who are NOT considered Jews, by the way- are patrilineal. They accept only the Pentateuch as Sacred Scripture and categorically reject the Talmud. The Talmud was composed in the neo-Hebraic script of Babylon, not in the Paleo-Hebraic script as is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls and at Cumran. And it is a well known fact that the version of the Old Testament most often quoted in the New Testament by Christ and the Apostles is the Septuagint – the most ancient extant entire copy of the Old Testament- compiled in the 4th Century B.C. under the Seleucids.

    Many of the Talmudic Massoretic texts were falsified by the neo-Hebraic translators in the Medieval in order to completely distort the prophecies relating to Christ, e.g., the Septuagint’s ” A Virgin (“Parthenos” in the Septuagint) shall conceive and bear a son…” which, in the Massoretic text became a “A young maiden of marriagable age (Almah in the neo-Hebrew tex) shall conceive and bear a son” (What is miraculous about the latter?). Another gross falsification is from Psalm 23 or 22 (differs by versions) which, in the Septuagint reads, “They have pierced my hands and my feet; they have counted all my bones” a clear reference to the Crucifixion, whereas the Massoretic text reads, “My hands and my feet- like a lion.”

    Contemporary Judaism postdates Christianity by centuries.

    The homosexual agenda and Transgenderism have been brought to the ancestral lands of Christendom by Jewish controlled media counterculture, not by Greco-Romans.

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    Well. Why is the catholic church full of homosexual buggarists? The Jews made them do it? Full of pedophiles? Why does cult marxist Europe pioneer same sex marriage? Look at all the christian denominations going homosexual. What's behind that? Jews? You have a Jewish persecution paranoia complex. And you blame Jews for dying christian cultural failures. Look at what's happening in Europe! Fail is the only word that comes to mind. Just settle your mind once and for all: do the Jews control the homo catholic church? The Anglican church? The lutheran church? The methodists? The presbyterians? Answer this question: did the Jews cause all those churches to go homo?
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  137. @Dante Ardenz
    I'm glad you understand German advances, now copied , stolen, or repressed. The USA / Soviets did loot Germany . Operation Paperclip . Lindburgh wanted to look good after the war he had properly opposed ! Himmler visited Pennemunde alone ," Drove his own BMW onto the Ferry " , and backed the program. Hitler made no wartime visits . Milch ,Speer ,von Below his Luftwaffe aide went in person many times . Dornburger in the employ of the USA after the War needed a good story . Hitler always pulled highly decorated warriors from the line ," you have done enough " , he would say . He wanted Tiger Ace Michael Wittman out of the line . Wittman refused and was killed . The medal Hitler awarded Rudel was the only one . The Knights Cross in Gold ,which already included the Oak Leaves and Diamonds . So desperate for an interesting man of action to succeed him , Hitler breifly considered the dynamic 29 year old Rudel . He was looking to preserve great people for the post war . Of course he knew the men's youth ,and Oberst rank was to low . Admiral Doenitz ,was the Fuhrer excellent choice . " He might salvage something".

    What is your alcohol promillage now ?

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  138. @German_reader
    Thank you for linking to those "Ask an Israeli" videos, those are fascinating.

    Corey Gil-Shuster has got many funny & enlightening videos. Here are some on various topics. ..

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  139. VickPM says:
    @Mulegino1
    It is obvious that you do not understand the historical evolution of the word "Jew." Christ was not a "Jew" in the contemporary sense of the typical deli owner or beard in Brooklyn, but because, as a "Judean" or "Iudeos" He believed that the true Israelites (not the much later Talmudists) worshiped at the Temple in Jerusalem and not on Mt. Gerizim, as the Samaritans believed. Contemporary Judaism is based almost entirely on the Babylonian Talmud, which- when compared to other sacred texts of the great religions- is the greatest pile of scatological and perverse rubbish ever assembled in literary form. Christ totally and explicitly rejected the party of the Pharisees, who are the founders of what we know as "Orthodox Judaism."

    The Samaritans, the Falashas and the Karaites - who are NOT considered Jews, by the way- are patrilineal. They accept only the Pentateuch as Sacred Scripture and categorically reject the Talmud. The Talmud was composed in the neo-Hebraic script of Babylon, not in the Paleo-Hebraic script as is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls and at Cumran. And it is a well known fact that the version of the Old Testament most often quoted in the New Testament by Christ and the Apostles is the Septuagint - the most ancient extant entire copy of the Old Testament- compiled in the 4th Century B.C. under the Seleucids.

    Many of the Talmudic Massoretic texts were falsified by the neo-Hebraic translators in the Medieval in order to completely distort the prophecies relating to Christ, e.g., the Septuagint's " A Virgin ("Parthenos" in the Septuagint) shall conceive and bear a son..." which, in the Massoretic text became a "A young maiden of marriagable age (Almah in the neo-Hebrew tex) shall conceive and bear a son" (What is miraculous about the latter?). Another gross falsification is from Psalm 23 or 22 (differs by versions) which, in the Septuagint reads, "They have pierced my hands and my feet; they have counted all my bones" a clear reference to the Crucifixion, whereas the Massoretic text reads, "My hands and my feet- like a lion."

    Contemporary Judaism postdates Christianity by centuries.

    The homosexual agenda and Transgenderism have been brought to the ancestral lands of Christendom by Jewish controlled media counterculture, not by Greco-Romans.

    Well. Why is the catholic church full of homosexual buggarists? The Jews made them do it? Full of pedophiles? Why does cult marxist Europe pioneer same sex marriage? Look at all the christian denominations going homosexual. What’s behind that? Jews? You have a Jewish persecution paranoia complex. And you blame Jews for dying christian cultural failures. Look at what’s happening in Europe! Fail is the only word that comes to mind. Just settle your mind once and for all: do the Jews control the homo catholic church? The Anglican church? The lutheran church? The methodists? The presbyterians? Answer this question: did the Jews cause all those churches to go homo?

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    Could it possibly be because the Catholic Church (and most other major European institutions) have been infiltrated by Jew subverters- as well as the other mainline Christian (non- Christian Orthodox) denominations as well? Could that be a reason? Have you never heard the name of Magnus Hirschfield? The Jews are quite good at perverting and destroying gentile culture, when it suits their interests to do so.

    Google: "Babylon Before Hitler."
    , @anarchyst
    The rate of incidence for sex criumes is about 1 %.
    That is Far less than that of Protestants, J EW Rabbis, Boy Scout troopmasters or certainly Public School administrators. The leader in sex crimes against children is usually inter family related ie Step Fathers, Friends, uncles etc.
    J EWs made a crisis, than brought suit against the centralized Catholic Church and in so doing, forever tarnished the clergy who was their archnemesis.

    Free Republic

    Pedophilia Only a Catholic Sin?
    August 14th, 2009 | Kevin Roeten

    Pedophilia Only a Catholic Sin?

    It turns out pedophilia is an incorrect term, and Catholics aren’t responsible for most of it.

    Shockingly, AP breaks out of their typical liberal mold and reports Insurance companies shed light on extent of sex abuse in Protestant churches, that sexual abuse of minors has been rampant. But in their statement, they indirectly say members of the Catholic Church are not the majority abusers.

    AP discusses the raw numbers from three companies that insure the majority of protestant churches in America (Church Mutual, Guide One, and Brotherhood Mutual), and typically receive 260 reports/yr of people under 18 being sexually abused. Compare that with ~228 credible accusations/yr against Catholic clerics since 1950 (documented abuse records).

    Together with that information, it is known that the Catholic Church greatly outnumbers any specific Protestant denomination, and the data for Protestant churches is available only for the last seven years. Ever since the first sexual abuse cases had been reported, Catholics have had requirements: 1) police background check done on all volunteers–including priests, 2) a second person be present at all religious functions, and 3) all personnel involved with minors must take routine checks with “Protecting God’s Children”.

    Without a doubt, sexual abuse of a minor is one of the most despicable crimes and sins that man can perpetrate. But predators seem to thrive in an atmosphere where the base congregation is one of the most trusted organizations that exist.

    Philip Jenkins, in his 1996 book Pedophiles and Priests, [[link edited for length]], looked at the problem objectively and dispassionately. Jenkins (who is not Catholic) found that true pedophilia is extremely rare, and perhaps more common among Protestant clergy, and is even more common among married laymen.

    He found that in most sexual abuse cases (under the age of consent), the behavior is actually a variety of homosexuality. This sexual attraction with very young men that combine the charm of boyishness with sexual maturity is actually called ephebophilia. Pedophilia is really a psychiatric term meaning sexual interest in children below the age of puberty.’
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    ‘The worst sex crimes against children is in the Jewish communities and protestant churches’
    Tomasi was not reserved with criticism either and citing data published by the daily Christian Science Monitor, which was founded a hundred years ago by the Christian Science Church, said that the Catholic Church cleaned its house, Jutarnji List writes.
    According to their figures the majority of the US child abuse cases happens in the Protestant churches and Jewish communities, says Tomasi.’

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    MORE PROTESTANT MINISTERS GUILTY OF PEDOPHILIA THAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS, NEW RESEARCH REVEALS

    A Penn State historian, Philip Jenkins, has done an in depth research of pedophilia and sexual abuse among the clergy and has come up with some rather eye opening facts. It seems that while 1.7 percent of Catholic clergy have been guilty of pedophilia (or sexual abuse particularly of boys), a whopping TEN percent of Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia!

    This is all the more interesting, notes Jenkins, since there has been NO media term “Pastor Pedophilia” coined at all!

    Jenkins theorizes that the media, proving the ‘point’ of the ‘necessity’ of sexual promiscuity, overemphasizes any instance of pedophilia found among the Catholic clergy since it can use this to criticize the entire idea of celibacy. But it is interesting that the NON Celibate Protestant ministers have a MUCH GREATER problem with it than the celibate Catholic priests!

    Protestant pastor pedophilia is not within the frame of our ‘social constructionists’ as Jenkins calls the media:

    “In the 1980’s, [Pastor] Leyva had abused perhaps one hundred boys in several Southern states, but few of us ever learned of it. Leyva had the distinction of being a Pentecostal minister and was, therefore, not within the ‘frame’ of those who were busy constructing reality. The same is true of the three brothers, all Baptist ministers, who were charged with child molestation in the 1990’s; the public learned little about this highly unusual series of cases because it was not deemed worthy of dissemination by those fixated on Catholic scandals.” [1]
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  140. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian


    However, I have significant disagreements with you. I think a much larger segment of jews see themselves as at war then you do, and I think you paint Jewish motivations far too benign a light and underplay – or are perhaps ignorant of – the sinister aspects of jewish culture and religion, which I am only all too acquainted with.
     
    OK, let's see.

    WW2 cannot be a significant factor in Jewish behavior as this behavior antedates it. The literary and historical record shows a striking unanimity in descriptions of jewish behavior from at least a few hundred years back. While the Holocaust is obviously indefensible, it was a reaction to Jewish behavior, just as Pearl Harbor was not just a spontaneous attack by the nefarious japanese. To see it otherwise is to think in essentialist and Manichean terms, just with the bad guys and good guys reversed.
     
    Where do you have this Jewish behavior info from? I don't think history corroborates such a statement. For instance, Jews got pretty well in Ottoman empire, one Jew-I forgot his name- was the Grand Vizier in the 16th C. He was a very successful statesman & enriched his adopted country. The same could be said of Disraeli in Britain or Albert Ballin in Germany. Their behavior in all societies where they were treated humanely (Cordoba caliphate, Ottoman empire, Bismarck's Germany, ..) had been not only bearable, but exemplary (mostly).

    I know the interpretation that shoah was an extreme reaction to German Jewish anti-national parasitism & subversion during Weimar Germany period, but have not yet seen evidence for their supposed subversion/depravity at that era. On the contrary, Weimar Germany was one of the most creative & brilliant periods in human history, and Jews played a non-negligible role in that.

    So, I completely disagree that shoah was somehow extreme reaction to their atrocious activities. If we stick to verifiable & empirical history, this is something that need not have happened, an anomaly. Here I agree with Israeli publicist, historian & writer Amos Elon ( http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=95356BF180CBD5B3A19917A7167DC988 , short review here: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/the-pity-of-it-all-by-amos-elon-114277.html )


    Also, the majority of American jews had no experience of the Holocaust. I have Jewish friends who are fifth generation Americans, wealthy and secure, who fulfill anti-Semitic stereotypes of two hundred years ago to a tee. Enough of these experiences make you pause and think.
     
    OK, which stereotypes? If you mean caricatures a la Woody Allen, you're probably right. And ...?

    Jewish religious and cultural texts indisputably contain Jewish supremacist ideas and essentialist Manichean hostility towards non Jews of exactly the sort you condemn elsewhere. This is simply a matter of record and easily demonstrated. I hear this kind of talk around the dinner table every time I visit my childhood Jewish friends. It’s appalling, and its foolish to think this atmosphere has no effect even on secular jews.

    As for the drive for supremacy and dominance, this is found in many cultures. It seems special pleading to excuse jews from this basic human trait in principle. Europeans manifested this drive heavily in the modern period. And again, a simple appeal to Jewish cultural texts can resolve the matter, as well as even a casual acquaintance with modern Jewish attitudes. Jewish ambition is proverbial, and in in a country where at the topmost IQ levels jews are outnumbered eight to one it defies belief to see Jewish dominance in so many key fields as based on merit of as a mere accident.
     
    Again, I agree-to a point. For instance, their religious culture is essentially supremacist: there is no other spiritual tradition I know of that denies other people basically the same anthropological status in religious sense. In Kabbalah, which is esoteric extension of normative Judaism, only Jews possess divine portion of "soul". Others do not.

    Well, we know from different Gnostic religious traditions that they all aver there is split between empirical human psyche & essential, divine Self (Buddhata/Buddha Nature in Mahayana Buddhism, Atman in Vedanta Hinduism, Daimon or Nous in Greek religion, Inner Man and Christ Logos in (Neoplatonic) Christianity, Angel Christ in Christian Gnosticism, ruh/spirit and Perfect Nature in Neoplatonic variants of Islamic Sufism etc.). Only in Kabbalah & other variants of Judaism they deny that other humans are, basically, the same as they are. According to them, only Jews possess Neshamah (which is divine), or "upper layers" of Neshamah, like Chaya and Yechidah. Such religious arrogance & spiritual autism do not exist, as far as I know, anywhere else. For instance, see this (it is about the Talmud, but their religious "philosophy", at least traditional, is more or less the same elsewhere):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M60FUPVtq9k

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ji_Y7YEbKY

    But, where I disagree is that their arrogance can be somehow extracted from their traditional culture. Sure, adherents of traditional Judaism are not a sort of people I would care to have any relation to- but you are, in my opinion, wrong when you imply that their orthodox supremacism somehow rubs off on most of them. Most Jews simply don't know about this stuff & they've become universalists (sometimes, annoyingly so).

    In short, Jewish supremacism does exist, but: a) it is not realistic to derive it from their religious culture- most of them are even not aware of their heritage, b) it is not prevalent among them, statistically (if you look at them sociologically: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/jewish-american-beliefs-attitudes-culture-survey/ )

    And not being essentialists, we must view the drive for supremacy as subject to the cyclical nature of history, and manifest now in one people and now another, and not be a permanent feature of any one group, but always subject to the historical flux.
     
    Yes, but... I'm not much concerned with this issue. For instance, I think we whites are the best. We've created what is best in the world. We may go down in history, I don't know- but I still think we, as a group, are best looking, have best intellects, we're emotionally the most developed creatures on earth etc. Just, it doesn't mean we're free to exploit & demean others.

    And indeed I believe the most useful way to view modern jews is to see them as in their “empire” phase, a phase which cannot last. Corresponding with this or deriving from it, modern Jews have an incredibly dysfunctional culture of ambition, which creates incredible pressure and leads to abusive practices and much suffering, where one feels worthless in the eyes of one’s community if one isn’t wealthy or powerful.
     
    It's their problem, not mine. Those among them who look at others that way are bound to suffer: Nemesis follows Hubris.


    Finally, the Jewish attitude to money deserves special mention – it is utterly unlike the attitude of Catholics or Muslims, Buddhists or Hindus. Its closest analogues are with certain protestant sets and Mormons.
     
    Agreed.

    In summary, Jewish culture is in urgent need of serious reform, and as it stands encourages many negative traits. This is hardly unique to jews, of course. But neither can we view their culture in a benign light.
     
    I would respond with the question posed by Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism: What is Jewish culture? Does it exist at all? If you mean their stereotypical behavior, I don't know whether you're right or wrong, and to which extent this applies to the group of people we call "Jews".


    Now, this all adds up to a picture which, to my mind, paints jews as deserving of pity but also as a dangerous group that any host culture would be wise to be aware of and devise protections against, as not essentially bad but as being in a bad phase of their historical cycle, and as ultimately human and redeemable as the rest of us, but as the group who today most represents ego and materialism, and as such disproportionately responsible for most social ills that afflicts us today.
     
    History has shown they're not dangerous, both in Zoroastrian, Greco-Roman, Christian & Islamic worlds. What you wrote implies there is something basically wrong with them as an entity (such was, for instance, Marx's position). But, I disagree- universalism has conquered their particularism & only among most backward nuts we can find this type of behavior or world-view as you refer to.

    But, that's just my opinion. I may be wrong.

    Well, you introduce a refreshing element of moderation into this subject. And your old fashioned commitment to reason and balance is appreciated :)

    The subject is vast, and each must decide for himself. Mcdonald provides a decent survey of descriptions of Jewish behavior from pre-war sources, if your interested.

    I am more extreme than you on this subject, maybe because growing up in the Jewish community I’m very familiar with Jewish culture, attitudes, and behavior.

    What I found striking was how personal experience was corroborated from so many diverse sources from so many different periods.

    There is definitely something very wrong with the Jewish community today that is unlike other communities – my personal thesis is that Jews, as a somewhat unusual nation, are in the expansionist, predatory phase of their civilizational arc, while whites are in the deflationary, contractive phase.

    The same was the case with Germany. Schopenhauer, Wagner, etc show that Germans were exiting their expansionist phase, and the presence of Jews created unbearable stresses.

    The lesson of history is that two groups at opposite poles of their historical cycle cannot coexist amicably together. One will exploit and prey on the other, provoking a violent and unpredictable response.

    Europeans and Asians were in a similar relationship until recently.

    You keep on saying this represents a minority of Jews – maybe, but a significant and motivated minority.

    This point of yours is more destructive of the essentialist position which sees Jews as a monolith – indeed it’s a useful corrective to that.

    But the truth lies somewhere in between it seems to me, and your view is far too benign, in my view.

    I wonder if as an old fashioned humanist you balk at seeing evil in the world and search for reasonable explanations.

    I have learned to see evil in the world, not as embodied in any one people, but as a Spirit which seizes upon different groups at different times.

    Time and experience has radicalized me, but I find your humanism refreshing, and I regret that I can no longer believe in it.

    I enjoyed your intelligent remarks.

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    There is definitely something very wrong with the Jewish community today that is unlike other communities – my personal thesis is that Jews, as a somewhat unusual nation, are in the expansionist, predatory phase of their civilizational arc, while whites are in the deflationary, contractive phase.
     
    This is probably right, and it suggests that the US Jewish community remains apart (on a separate arc) from the rest of the American community, with a different identity and different motivations.

    And it's potentially very problematic. Different races do go through these civilizational cycles (interesting book here is "The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy" by Strauss & Howe), with the Jewish cycle being played out in the West and the Middle East. There's the big question of how it affects European societies (including the USA) since we're already finding out how disastrous it's been for Middle East.

    To get some perspective, the British sought their Imperial Destiny through trade and "gunboat diplomacy" installing elite British administrations in countries around the world (including the US) under a form of benevolent Imperial dictatorship.

    The Ancient Romans sought their Imperial Destiny in the Mediterranean, Europe and the Middle East with their Legions, Roman provinces, governors and their own system of a Pax Romana benevolent Imperial Roman dictatorship.

    In a not so benevolent style, the Germans and Japanese sought their own Imperial Destinies in WW2, destroying half the world in the process, so this raises the question of how the Jews will handle their Empire building.

    The evidence so far concerning absolute Jewish power is truly bad, involving the horror shows of Bolshevik Russia (1917) , Bela Kuhn's short lived but grotesque dictatorship in Hungary (1919), and now the destruction of the Middle East.

    The conclusion is that Jewish Imperialism is not at all benevolent, rather 100% exploitative and racist, combined with a strong streak of sadism.
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  141. Mulegino1 says:
    @VickPM
    Well. Why is the catholic church full of homosexual buggarists? The Jews made them do it? Full of pedophiles? Why does cult marxist Europe pioneer same sex marriage? Look at all the christian denominations going homosexual. What's behind that? Jews? You have a Jewish persecution paranoia complex. And you blame Jews for dying christian cultural failures. Look at what's happening in Europe! Fail is the only word that comes to mind. Just settle your mind once and for all: do the Jews control the homo catholic church? The Anglican church? The lutheran church? The methodists? The presbyterians? Answer this question: did the Jews cause all those churches to go homo?

    Could it possibly be because the Catholic Church (and most other major European institutions) have been infiltrated by Jew subverters- as well as the other mainline Christian (non- Christian Orthodox) denominations as well? Could that be a reason? Have you never heard the name of Magnus Hirschfield? The Jews are quite good at perverting and destroying gentile culture, when it suits their interests to do so.

    Google: “Babylon Before Hitler.”

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Fc0Jtp20c&bpctr=1515546621
    , @VickPM
    So the 'Jew subverters' have infiltrated the priesthood and protestant clergy. That's why the are both rife with buggery. You and Joyce suffer from a Jewish persecution complex. Funny how your kind react to such a flimsy theory that Jews are insinuating buggery into the lives of children through thin paperbacks. Look at the comments to the Joyce piece! They have nothing to do with children's literature!

    In reality Dr. Seuss is probably the most popular children's author in the US for decades. Most children learn to read from "The Cat In The Hat" hardly a Jewish tale. Seuss had German Lutheran parents on both sides.

    Obscure authors mentioned by Joyce have little or no influence on children. Most popular children's authors are probably British and christian:
    A.A. Milne
    R. Kipling
    C.S. Lewis
    H. Lofting
    Rev. W. Awdry
    J.K. Rowling
    to name a few.
    The above seem to be the big influential childrens book sellers today. Look up the data. All white British protestants! Joyce needs to get treatment for his obsessive Jew paranoia. Funny how you commenters go stir crazy about Jews ruining your lives. SAD!


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  142. Mulegino1 says:
    @Mulegino1
    Could it possibly be because the Catholic Church (and most other major European institutions) have been infiltrated by Jew subverters- as well as the other mainline Christian (non- Christian Orthodox) denominations as well? Could that be a reason? Have you never heard the name of Magnus Hirschfield? The Jews are quite good at perverting and destroying gentile culture, when it suits their interests to do so.

    Google: "Babylon Before Hitler."

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  143. gsg says:

    Could we not be “White” (or, more commonly, “white”)? Could we just be European, wherever we might live?

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  144. @Andrei Martyanov

    but it’s simply ludicrous to think they’re the driving force behind the US’s Israeli-centric foreign policy.
     
    They are one of the major factors in it. If you disagree with me, fine--try to disagree with Phil Giraldi who, among many things, wrote a superb piece:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37674.htm

    I do not however, dispute the fact, that most of contemporary US "geopolitics" and especially following 911 was and is formulated by people with dubious loyalties and who are mostly of Jewish descent. This is one issue on which I disagree with Bardon radically, whatever nuanced definitions, however sensible, could be given to them. In the end, even Bardon admits about grossly disproportionate influence (and power, I may add) those people exert on the US foreign and domestic policies. This influence wouldn't have been possible without massive and active grass-root support of American Christian Zionists. They DO have numbers.

    I don’t disagree with you that the Christian Zionists are an important factor (I said as much), only that they’re not the MAIN factor. That question is not really the focus of Giraldi’s linked article (you also right that it is excellent), but I suspect he would agree that the Bible-thumpers are second-fiddle to the Jewish Lobby (keeping to the American context).

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    Giraldi’s great article there concerns the proliferation of Christian Zionist fanatics in the US military. But even in end-of-days America, the military does not set policy, it follows it.
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  145. @Beefcake the Mighty
    I don’t disagree with you that the Christian Zionists are an important factor (I said as much), only that they’re not the MAIN factor. That question is not really the focus of Giraldi’s linked article (you also right that it is excellent), but I suspect he would agree that the Bible-thumpers are second-fiddle to the Jewish Lobby (keeping to the American context).

    Giraldi’s great article there concerns the proliferation of Christian Zionist fanatics in the US military. But even in end-of-days America, the military does not set policy, it follows it.

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    I merely pointed to ONE OF the examples, using Phil's observation on US military. You, evidently, missed a superb passage there about loyalty. If you have Direct or Dish TV, without even tuning in, in the Program Guide find God TV Channel and count how many times they broadcast (like yesterday) such "shows" as Prayer For Israel and Israelis.

    http://god.tv/israel

    Have you been to or saw "shows" from Evangelical mega-churches lately? The so called Evangelical landscape is dominated by pro-Israel and pro-Jewish sermons and rhetoric. It is a cold hard fact. And no, those people, their fanatical ideology ("religion") is a huge factor in delivering the US to the Israel's altar and turning US foreign policy in unmitigated disaster. In the end, do you need me to post here this famous video with US (are they really US???) Congress' 26 standing ovations to Bibi's speech--a humiliating and revolting show of utter submission by what one, otherwise, would consider a foundation of American Republic and national interest. Ask yourself a question how many of those Congresspeople (and Senators) have sizable Cristian Zionist constituencies which they really need if they want to get reelected.
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  146. Svigor says:

    Their behavior in all societies where they were treated humanely (Cordoba caliphate, Ottoman empire, Bismarck’s Germany, ..) had been not only bearable, but exemplary (mostly).

    On the contrary, their behavior was often best where they were treated worse. Again, I point to their history in the Muslim world; the Jews in Iran are the best-behaved. They are not allowed access to the Iranian power structure.

    In short, Jewish supremacism does exist, but: a) it is not realistic to derive it from their religious culture- most of them are even not aware of their heritage, b) it is not prevalent among them, statistically (if you look at them sociologically:

    You’re a trees over forest kinda guy. Obviously ethnocentrists write ethnocentric religions, rather than non-ethnocentrists writing ethnocentric religions for themselves first, and becoming ethnocentrists as a result. That aside, even if we are being cultural determinists, a culture obviously need not do anything consciously (Jews are definitely living proof of that). The ethnocentric mores can just transfer from the religious to the irreligious via cultural osmosis. Drop your faith, keep your prejudices.

    I know the interpretation that shoah was an extreme reaction to German Jewish anti-national parasitism & subversion during Weimar Germany period, but have not yet seen evidence for their supposed subversion/depravity at that era. On the contrary, Weimar Germany was one of the most creative & brilliant periods in human history, and Jews played a non-negligible role in that.

    So, I completely disagree that shoah was somehow extreme reaction to their atrocious activities. If we stick to verifiable & empirical history, this is something that need not have happened, an anomaly. Here I agree with Israeli publicist, historian & writer Amos Elon

    As Mr Garrett so ably points out:

    1 The Jews were instrumental to the Oktober Revolution.
    2 The Jews presided over the Holodomor (9 to 12 m dead).
    3 The Jews were showing every indication of being instrumental to the attempted communist overthrow of Germany.

    ***

    You keep saying that the bad Jews are a minority. 1, these things are relative; the bad blacks are a minority, too. 2, I leave to Hartung:

    In-groups sandwich an outline for animosity, an organizing principle for prejudice, between layers of social support. Whether Christian or Muslim or Jewish, every extremist is supported by a small number of less extreme admirers and each of those supporters is buoyed, in turn, by a larger group of sympathizers. These connections are continuous right down to the bottom of the pyramid, where vaguely sympathetic in-group members are offended by the very extremists who would have no base, and no basis, without them. It is that vague sympathy which needs to be examined.

    The “good Jews” defend the bad Jews. The evidence of this is on parade before your very eyes on this site; for the “race-realist” and “conservative” Jews here, defending their tribe is job #1. They perform no other with nearly the same consistency or enthusiasm. And these are the Jews who are most simpatico with us; as ruled by “is it good for the Jews?” as the rest.

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  147. Svigor says:

    I don’t disagree with you that the Christian Zionists are an important factor (I said as much), only that they’re not the MAIN factor. That question is not really the focus of Giraldi’s linked article (you also right that it is excellent), but I suspect he would agree that the Bible-thumpers are second-fiddle to the Jewish Lobby (keeping to the American context).

    Solve the problem of the Jew Zionists, and the “Christian Zionist” problem will fade away on its own. They’re cucks serving Jew interests for TV time slots and other perks.

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  148. Miro23 says:
    @AaronB
    Well, you introduce a refreshing element of moderation into this subject. And your old fashioned commitment to reason and balance is appreciated :)

    The subject is vast, and each must decide for himself. Mcdonald provides a decent survey of descriptions of Jewish behavior from pre-war sources, if your interested.

    I am more extreme than you on this subject, maybe because growing up in the Jewish community I'm very familiar with Jewish culture, attitudes, and behavior.

    What I found striking was how personal experience was corroborated from so many diverse sources from so many different periods.

    There is definitely something very wrong with the Jewish community today that is unlike other communities - my personal thesis is that Jews, as a somewhat unusual nation, are in the expansionist, predatory phase of their civilizational arc, while whites are in the deflationary, contractive phase.

    The same was the case with Germany. Schopenhauer, Wagner, etc show that Germans were exiting their expansionist phase, and the presence of Jews created unbearable stresses.

    The lesson of history is that two groups at opposite poles of their historical cycle cannot coexist amicably together. One will exploit and prey on the other, provoking a violent and unpredictable response.

    Europeans and Asians were in a similar relationship until recently.

    You keep on saying this represents a minority of Jews - maybe, but a significant and motivated minority.

    This point of yours is more destructive of the essentialist position which sees Jews as a monolith - indeed it's a useful corrective to that.

    But the truth lies somewhere in between it seems to me, and your view is far too benign, in my view.

    I wonder if as an old fashioned humanist you balk at seeing evil in the world and search for reasonable explanations.

    I have learned to see evil in the world, not as embodied in any one people, but as a Spirit which seizes upon different groups at different times.

    Time and experience has radicalized me, but I find your humanism refreshing, and I regret that I can no longer believe in it.

    I enjoyed your intelligent remarks.

    There is definitely something very wrong with the Jewish community today that is unlike other communities – my personal thesis is that Jews, as a somewhat unusual nation, are in the expansionist, predatory phase of their civilizational arc, while whites are in the deflationary, contractive phase.

    This is probably right, and it suggests that the US Jewish community remains apart (on a separate arc) from the rest of the American community, with a different identity and different motivations.

    And it’s potentially very problematic. Different races do go through these civilizational cycles (interesting book here is “The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy” by Strauss & Howe), with the Jewish cycle being played out in the West and the Middle East. There’s the big question of how it affects European societies (including the USA) since we’re already finding out how disastrous it’s been for Middle East.

    To get some perspective, the British sought their Imperial Destiny through trade and “gunboat diplomacy” installing elite British administrations in countries around the world (including the US) under a form of benevolent Imperial dictatorship.

    The Ancient Romans sought their Imperial Destiny in the Mediterranean, Europe and the Middle East with their Legions, Roman provinces, governors and their own system of a Pax Romana benevolent Imperial Roman dictatorship.

    In a not so benevolent style, the Germans and Japanese sought their own Imperial Destinies in WW2, destroying half the world in the process, so this raises the question of how the Jews will handle their Empire building.

    The evidence so far concerning absolute Jewish power is truly bad, involving the horror shows of Bolshevik Russia (1917) , Bela Kuhn’s short lived but grotesque dictatorship in Hungary (1919), and now the destruction of the Middle East.

    The conclusion is that Jewish Imperialism is not at all benevolent, rather 100% exploitative and racist, combined with a strong streak of sadism.

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    I see the explanation in the jewish identity 'ever innocently persecuted'.
    This on the one hand causes fear, thus trying to get control, on the other hand the excuse to do horrible things.
    And maybe the idea that indeed jews are chosen, all other people just animals disguised as humans.

    It began after Roman armies destroyed the jewish state, now some 2000 years ago.
    And indeed, they are right to a certain extent, especially the catholic church persecuted them, the existence of jews made clear the the pope was not in charge of anything.

    As jews were excluded from many existing professions they occupied themselves with new ones, such as photography, and of course banking.
    As bankers kings liked to use them, they were not under the jurisdiction of the pope.
    Their success in the last profession on the one hand gave them power, on the other caused hatred.

    Then there is the jewish tradition of learning.
    As Hödl writes, any rabbi was in higher esteem than the richest Rothschildt.
    This learning tradition may well explain jewish success in intellectual professions, for atheistic jews.

    Klaus Hödl, ‘Als Bettler in die Leopoldstadt, Galizische Juden auf dem Weg nach Wien’, Wien, 1994
    , @AaronB
    Yes, I think the concept of civilizational cycle is really important in understanding history.

    It seems to me the key to history.

    It's interesting, but when a country rises, another one always falls. Like now with Chins, just as the US is declining, China rises.

    It would have been interesting if China was rising and the US wasn't declining.

    And ifts not just relative, America is declining in an absolute sense.

    Apparently, history is the interaction of groups in different phases of their civilizational cycle.

    It's why conquest really isn't impressive - you're always conquering someone at the low ebb of his civilizations cycle.

    Imperial expansion is also subject to the law of the cycle. It starts out horrific then gradually mellows out right before it completely collapses. You can't keep an empire being mellow, just, and fair. When you start acting like that, it means you're no longer really interested in empire.

    European Imperialism started out horrific. The British in Tasmania were demons wearing clothes.The Belgian Congo, the French in Algeria, etc. Horrific.

    By the time the British became relatively mellow, just, and fair, the empire was on its way out. Ghandi saw this, and gave a final push to an empty shell.

    Allowing for differences in the form of empire which make it difficult to compare, I don't know if the Jewish Imperial phase is more sadistic than the European one.

    In their very different ways, they seem similar. I'm guessing all imperial phases are sadistic and horrific initially.

    I'm guessing we can expect Jews to enter their mellow imperial phase fairly soon,. Ron Unz has documented a massive decline in Jewish performance on the most prestigious science and math tests.

    Sir John Glubb tried to map the phases of empire and found that the first stage of decline is when a group no longer cares about serious achievement and focuses exclusively on money.

    We can't yet fully assess the Jewish Imperial phase until it's over.

    My guess within the next fifty years the immense Jewish power we see today will be a dim memory.

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  149. VickPM says:
    @Mulegino1
    Could it possibly be because the Catholic Church (and most other major European institutions) have been infiltrated by Jew subverters- as well as the other mainline Christian (non- Christian Orthodox) denominations as well? Could that be a reason? Have you never heard the name of Magnus Hirschfield? The Jews are quite good at perverting and destroying gentile culture, when it suits their interests to do so.

    Google: "Babylon Before Hitler."

    So the ‘Jew subverters’ have infiltrated the priesthood and protestant clergy. That’s why the are both rife with buggery. You and Joyce suffer from a Jewish persecution complex. Funny how your kind react to such a flimsy theory that Jews are insinuating buggery into the lives of children through thin paperbacks. Look at the comments to the Joyce piece! They have nothing to do with children’s literature!

    In reality Dr. Seuss is probably the most popular children’s author in the US for decades. Most children learn to read from “The Cat In The Hat” hardly a Jewish tale. Seuss had German Lutheran parents on both sides.

    Obscure authors mentioned by Joyce have little or no influence on children. Most popular children’s authors are probably British and christian:
    A.A. Milne
    R. Kipling
    C.S. Lewis
    H. Lofting
    Rev. W. Awdry
    J.K. Rowling
    to name a few.
    The above seem to be the big influential childrens book sellers today. Look up the data. All white British protestants! Joyce needs to get treatment for his obsessive Jew paranoia. Funny how you commenters go stir crazy about Jews ruining your lives. SAD!

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    You are simply incapable of addressing the points I have brought up. You claim that the Catholic Church is in favor of sodomy because of Greco-Roman wrestling, which is plainly ridiculous. You cannot point to a single document in Church history which approves it or even speaks non-harshly about it. St. Peter Damian condemned sodomy and incorrigible sodomites in the harshest terms in his famous work on the subject. Same with St. Thomas Aquinas, and the vast majority of spiritual writers and theologians. The Patristic authors regarded it with horror. Alighieri put the sodomites in the same circle of the Inferno as the usurers, since both sins constitute crimes of violence against nature.

    On the other hand the Talmud, which is the authoritative source for contemporary Jews, explicitly approves both of sodomy and pedophilia. The Orthodox Jewish bris involves what legally is both pedophilia and sexual assault and has led to innumerable cases of children being infected by their Mohel. No Catholic rite or ritual involves this. Yet, in your twisted mind, it is the Catholics who are in favor of sexual perversion and the Jews who resolutely oppose it, despite the fact that the Jews are well known to be at the forefront of cultural and societal filth such as the pornography industry and white slavery.

    They distort, and corrupt everything they come into contact with, as is evinced by the barren nature of their contributions to our culture - in terms of great works of art, music, architecture and literature. Before a large number of these people embraced and accepted the Christian European culture during the 18th century Haskalah, they were considered little else but backward and obscurantist shtetl dwellers.
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  150. @Miro23

    There is definitely something very wrong with the Jewish community today that is unlike other communities – my personal thesis is that Jews, as a somewhat unusual nation, are in the expansionist, predatory phase of their civilizational arc, while whites are in the deflationary, contractive phase.
     
    This is probably right, and it suggests that the US Jewish community remains apart (on a separate arc) from the rest of the American community, with a different identity and different motivations.

    And it's potentially very problematic. Different races do go through these civilizational cycles (interesting book here is "The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy" by Strauss & Howe), with the Jewish cycle being played out in the West and the Middle East. There's the big question of how it affects European societies (including the USA) since we're already finding out how disastrous it's been for Middle East.

    To get some perspective, the British sought their Imperial Destiny through trade and "gunboat diplomacy" installing elite British administrations in countries around the world (including the US) under a form of benevolent Imperial dictatorship.

    The Ancient Romans sought their Imperial Destiny in the Mediterranean, Europe and the Middle East with their Legions, Roman provinces, governors and their own system of a Pax Romana benevolent Imperial Roman dictatorship.

    In a not so benevolent style, the Germans and Japanese sought their own Imperial Destinies in WW2, destroying half the world in the process, so this raises the question of how the Jews will handle their Empire building.

    The evidence so far concerning absolute Jewish power is truly bad, involving the horror shows of Bolshevik Russia (1917) , Bela Kuhn's short lived but grotesque dictatorship in Hungary (1919), and now the destruction of the Middle East.

    The conclusion is that Jewish Imperialism is not at all benevolent, rather 100% exploitative and racist, combined with a strong streak of sadism.

    I see the explanation in the jewish identity ‘ever innocently persecuted’.
    This on the one hand causes fear, thus trying to get control, on the other hand the excuse to do horrible things.
    And maybe the idea that indeed jews are chosen, all other people just animals disguised as humans.

    It began after Roman armies destroyed the jewish state, now some 2000 years ago.
    And indeed, they are right to a certain extent, especially the catholic church persecuted them, the existence of jews made clear the the pope was not in charge of anything.

    As jews were excluded from many existing professions they occupied themselves with new ones, such as photography, and of course banking.
    As bankers kings liked to use them, they were not under the jurisdiction of the pope.
    Their success in the last profession on the one hand gave them power, on the other caused hatred.

    Then there is the jewish tradition of learning.
    As Hödl writes, any rabbi was in higher esteem than the richest Rothschildt.
    This learning tradition may well explain jewish success in intellectual professions, for atheistic jews.

    Klaus Hödl, ‘Als Bettler in die Leopoldstadt, Galizische Juden auf dem Weg nach Wien’, Wien, 1994

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  151. ” under a form of benevolent Imperial dictatorship ”
    Read what Nehru thought of this benevolence:
    Jawaharlal Nehru, ‘The discovery of India’, Calcutta 1948

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  152. @Beefcake the Mighty
    Giraldi’s great article there concerns the proliferation of Christian Zionist fanatics in the US military. But even in end-of-days America, the military does not set policy, it follows it.

    I merely pointed to ONE OF the examples, using Phil’s observation on US military. You, evidently, missed a superb passage there about loyalty. If you have Direct or Dish TV, without even tuning in, in the Program Guide find God TV Channel and count how many times they broadcast (like yesterday) such “shows” as Prayer For Israel and Israelis.

    http://god.tv/israel

    Have you been to or saw “shows” from Evangelical mega-churches lately? The so called Evangelical landscape is dominated by pro-Israel and pro-Jewish sermons and rhetoric. It is a cold hard fact. And no, those people, their fanatical ideology (“religion”) is a huge factor in delivering the US to the Israel’s altar and turning US foreign policy in unmitigated disaster. In the end, do you need me to post here this famous video with US (are they really US???) Congress’ 26 standing ovations to Bibi’s speech–a humiliating and revolting show of utter submission by what one, otherwise, would consider a foundation of American Republic and national interest. Ask yourself a question how many of those Congresspeople (and Senators) have sizable Cristian Zionist constituencies which they really need if they want to get reelected.

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    Senator Hollings in his last speech explained that any politician in the USA turning him- or herself against zionism or jewry will lose the next election.
    As a USA politician said 'we do not love them, w're afraid of them'.

    Anyone interested in who killed Kennedy knows that he was killed two weeks after he threatened Israel not to sell them weapons any more.
    Of course, Kennedy had more enemies, the USA maffia, the FBI and the CIA.

    Then there is Sharon's famous statement on Israeli radio, denied of course ' we control America'.

    The USA now threatens Iran with war, what is the USA interest ?

    Very few people seem to know what was the man behind FDR, Bernard Baruch.
    Even less people know that FDR in Warm Springs, where he died, had as doctor the father of Bernard Baruch.
    And how many people know that the coffin that was transported from Warm Springs to Washington just contained an urn with ashes ?

    Shortly before he died FDR in his last speech to congress, FDR deviated from the written text, in stating that ten minutes with Saud had taught him more about zionism than hundreds of letters from USA rabbi's, and that he had promised Saud to limit the number of jews immigrating in Palestine.
    The deviation is not in the congress records, someone wrote to me.

    Yet Sherwood mentions the deviation, and the cremation in Warm Springs.
    That Sherwood is wrong about the deviation seems highly unlikely, he was one of the two speech writers of Roosevelt.

    Robert E. Sherwood, ‘Roosevelt und Hopkins’, 1950, Hamburg (Roosevelt and Hopkins, New York, 1948)

    Bernard M. Baruch, ‘Die Jahre des Dienens’, München 1962 (The public years, New York, 1960)
    , @Bardon Kaldian
    Be as it may- they know where would they be without US:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt2uvO3vh2s
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    Ask yourself if these congressmen depend more on pro-Israel Christian voters, or Jewish money. Jewish money dominates American politics.
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  153. AaronB says:
    @Miro23

    There is definitely something very wrong with the Jewish community today that is unlike other communities – my personal thesis is that Jews, as a somewhat unusual nation, are in the expansionist, predatory phase of their civilizational arc, while whites are in the deflationary, contractive phase.
     
    This is probably right, and it suggests that the US Jewish community remains apart (on a separate arc) from the rest of the American community, with a different identity and different motivations.

    And it's potentially very problematic. Different races do go through these civilizational cycles (interesting book here is "The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy" by Strauss & Howe), with the Jewish cycle being played out in the West and the Middle East. There's the big question of how it affects European societies (including the USA) since we're already finding out how disastrous it's been for Middle East.

    To get some perspective, the British sought their Imperial Destiny through trade and "gunboat diplomacy" installing elite British administrations in countries around the world (including the US) under a form of benevolent Imperial dictatorship.

    The Ancient Romans sought their Imperial Destiny in the Mediterranean, Europe and the Middle East with their Legions, Roman provinces, governors and their own system of a Pax Romana benevolent Imperial Roman dictatorship.

    In a not so benevolent style, the Germans and Japanese sought their own Imperial Destinies in WW2, destroying half the world in the process, so this raises the question of how the Jews will handle their Empire building.

    The evidence so far concerning absolute Jewish power is truly bad, involving the horror shows of Bolshevik Russia (1917) , Bela Kuhn's short lived but grotesque dictatorship in Hungary (1919), and now the destruction of the Middle East.

    The conclusion is that Jewish Imperialism is not at all benevolent, rather 100% exploitative and racist, combined with a strong streak of sadism.

    Yes, I think the concept of civilizational cycle is really important in understanding history.

    It seems to me the key to history.

    It’s interesting, but when a country rises, another one always falls. Like now with Chins, just as the US is declining, China rises.

    It would have been interesting if China was rising and the US wasn’t declining.

    And ifts not just relative, America is declining in an absolute sense.

    Apparently, history is the interaction of groups in different phases of their civilizational cycle.

    It’s why conquest really isn’t impressive – you’re always conquering someone at the low ebb of his civilizations cycle.

    Imperial expansion is also subject to the law of the cycle. It starts out horrific then gradually mellows out right before it completely collapses. You can’t keep an empire being mellow, just, and fair. When you start acting like that, it means you’re no longer really interested in empire.

    European Imperialism started out horrific. The British in Tasmania were demons wearing clothes.The Belgian Congo, the French in Algeria, etc. Horrific.

    By the time the British became relatively mellow, just, and fair, the empire was on its way out. Ghandi saw this, and gave a final push to an empty shell.

    Allowing for differences in the form of empire which make it difficult to compare, I don’t know if the Jewish Imperial phase is more sadistic than the European one.

    In their very different ways, they seem similar. I’m guessing all imperial phases are sadistic and horrific initially.

    I’m guessing we can expect Jews to enter their mellow imperial phase fairly soon,. Ron Unz has documented a massive decline in Jewish performance on the most prestigious science and math tests.

    Sir John Glubb tried to map the phases of empire and found that the first stage of decline is when a group no longer cares about serious achievement and focuses exclusively on money.

    We can’t yet fully assess the Jewish Imperial phase until it’s over.

    My guess within the next fifty years the immense Jewish power we see today will be a dim memory.

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    Thanks for the interesting post.

    I really like Andy Grove's book "Only the Paranoid Survive" with businesses (and Empires) dying of self-satisfaction, complacency and opting out of work - outsourcing it, getting immigrants to do it, and generally looking for all the easy options.

    The USA has been a world class example of lazy hubris since the early 1960's or maybe even earlier. While the Asians were studying the Americans were partying.

    Sam Cooke set the tone in his 1961 hit "What a Wonderful World":

    Don't know much about history
    Don't know much biology
    Don't know much about a science book,
    Don't know much about the French I took
    But I do know that I love you,
    And I know that if you love me, too,
    What a wonderful world this would be

    Don't know much about geography,
    Don't know much trigonometry
    Don't know much about algebra,
    Don't know what a slide rule is for
    But I do know that one and one is two,
    And if this one could be with you,
    What a wonderful world this would be
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  154. Liza says:
    @VickPM
    Pure uneducated nonsense. All christendom knows that Jesus was a Jew. There is not one priest or pastor who would tell you otherwise. Jesus came to fulfill the Jewish law to provide the vessel of forgiveness for those not born into the covenant. Christian theology holds this fulfillment of Jewish law allows grace for those who accept him as their lord and savior.

    Circumcision is not mutiliation. It is an ancient ritual practice that has come under attack for as long as it has been practiced. The ancient homosexual greeks outlawed circumcision along with the modern day Russian Communists. The anti-circumcision cudgel has been taken up by the secular cult Marxists.

    Yet the cult Marxists homos like Mulegino1 do endorse trans gender surgery including the removal of male gonads from someone who thinks he is a woman caught in a man body! This is the mutilation that MuleGino1 approves of !

    @Vick. The anti-circumcision cudgel has been taken up by the secular cult Marxists.

    Yes, a lot of them are commies. And they are covering up what circumcision is really all about and have no interest in actually seeing it banned. They are just making a lot of noise.

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  155. Mulegino1 says:
    @VickPM
    So the 'Jew subverters' have infiltrated the priesthood and protestant clergy. That's why the are both rife with buggery. You and Joyce suffer from a Jewish persecution complex. Funny how your kind react to such a flimsy theory that Jews are insinuating buggery into the lives of children through thin paperbacks. Look at the comments to the Joyce piece! They have nothing to do with children's literature!

    In reality Dr. Seuss is probably the most popular children's author in the US for decades. Most children learn to read from "The Cat In The Hat" hardly a Jewish tale. Seuss had German Lutheran parents on both sides.

    Obscure authors mentioned by Joyce have little or no influence on children. Most popular children's authors are probably British and christian:
    A.A. Milne
    R. Kipling
    C.S. Lewis
    H. Lofting
    Rev. W. Awdry
    J.K. Rowling
    to name a few.
    The above seem to be the big influential childrens book sellers today. Look up the data. All white British protestants! Joyce needs to get treatment for his obsessive Jew paranoia. Funny how you commenters go stir crazy about Jews ruining your lives. SAD!


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    You are simply incapable of addressing the points I have brought up. You claim that the Catholic Church is in favor of sodomy because of Greco-Roman wrestling, which is plainly ridiculous. You cannot point to a single document in Church history which approves it or even speaks non-harshly about it. St. Peter Damian condemned sodomy and incorrigible sodomites in the harshest terms in his famous work on the subject. Same with St. Thomas Aquinas, and the vast majority of spiritual writers and theologians. The Patristic authors regarded it with horror. Alighieri put the sodomites in the same circle of the Inferno as the usurers, since both sins constitute crimes of violence against nature.

    On the other hand the Talmud, which is the authoritative source for contemporary Jews, explicitly approves both of sodomy and pedophilia. The Orthodox Jewish bris involves what legally is both pedophilia and sexual assault and has led to innumerable cases of children being infected by their Mohel. No Catholic rite or ritual involves this. Yet, in your twisted mind, it is the Catholics who are in favor of sexual perversion and the Jews who resolutely oppose it, despite the fact that the Jews are well known to be at the forefront of cultural and societal filth such as the pornography industry and white slavery.

    They distort, and corrupt everything they come into contact with, as is evinced by the barren nature of their contributions to our culture – in terms of great works of art, music, architecture and literature. Before a large number of these people embraced and accepted the Christian European culture during the 18th century Haskalah, they were considered little else but backward and obscurantist shtetl dwellers.

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  156. @Andrei Martyanov
    I merely pointed to ONE OF the examples, using Phil's observation on US military. You, evidently, missed a superb passage there about loyalty. If you have Direct or Dish TV, without even tuning in, in the Program Guide find God TV Channel and count how many times they broadcast (like yesterday) such "shows" as Prayer For Israel and Israelis.

    http://god.tv/israel

    Have you been to or saw "shows" from Evangelical mega-churches lately? The so called Evangelical landscape is dominated by pro-Israel and pro-Jewish sermons and rhetoric. It is a cold hard fact. And no, those people, their fanatical ideology ("religion") is a huge factor in delivering the US to the Israel's altar and turning US foreign policy in unmitigated disaster. In the end, do you need me to post here this famous video with US (are they really US???) Congress' 26 standing ovations to Bibi's speech--a humiliating and revolting show of utter submission by what one, otherwise, would consider a foundation of American Republic and national interest. Ask yourself a question how many of those Congresspeople (and Senators) have sizable Cristian Zionist constituencies which they really need if they want to get reelected.

    Senator Hollings in his last speech explained that any politician in the USA turning him- or herself against zionism or jewry will lose the next election.
    As a USA politician said ‘we do not love them, w’re afraid of them’.

    Anyone interested in who killed Kennedy knows that he was killed two weeks after he threatened Israel not to sell them weapons any more.
    Of course, Kennedy had more enemies, the USA maffia, the FBI and the CIA.

    Then there is Sharon’s famous statement on Israeli radio, denied of course ‘ we control America’.

    The USA now threatens Iran with war, what is the USA interest ?

    Very few people seem to know what was the man behind FDR, Bernard Baruch.
    Even less people know that FDR in Warm Springs, where he died, had as doctor the father of Bernard Baruch.
    And how many people know that the coffin that was transported from Warm Springs to Washington just contained an urn with ashes ?

    Shortly before he died FDR in his last speech to congress, FDR deviated from the written text, in stating that ten minutes with Saud had taught him more about zionism than hundreds of letters from USA rabbi’s, and that he had promised Saud to limit the number of jews immigrating in Palestine.
    The deviation is not in the congress records, someone wrote to me.

    Yet Sherwood mentions the deviation, and the cremation in Warm Springs.
    That Sherwood is wrong about the deviation seems highly unlikely, he was one of the two speech writers of Roosevelt.

    Robert E. Sherwood, ‘Roosevelt und Hopkins’, 1950, Hamburg (Roosevelt and Hopkins, New York, 1948)

    Bernard M. Baruch, ‘Die Jahre des Dienens’, München 1962 (The public years, New York, 1960)

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  157. @Andrei Martyanov
    I merely pointed to ONE OF the examples, using Phil's observation on US military. You, evidently, missed a superb passage there about loyalty. If you have Direct or Dish TV, without even tuning in, in the Program Guide find God TV Channel and count how many times they broadcast (like yesterday) such "shows" as Prayer For Israel and Israelis.

    http://god.tv/israel

    Have you been to or saw "shows" from Evangelical mega-churches lately? The so called Evangelical landscape is dominated by pro-Israel and pro-Jewish sermons and rhetoric. It is a cold hard fact. And no, those people, their fanatical ideology ("religion") is a huge factor in delivering the US to the Israel's altar and turning US foreign policy in unmitigated disaster. In the end, do you need me to post here this famous video with US (are they really US???) Congress' 26 standing ovations to Bibi's speech--a humiliating and revolting show of utter submission by what one, otherwise, would consider a foundation of American Republic and national interest. Ask yourself a question how many of those Congresspeople (and Senators) have sizable Cristian Zionist constituencies which they really need if they want to get reelected.

    Be as it may- they know where would they be without US:

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    Be as it may- they know where would they be without US:
     
    The main American benefit to Israel, granted that 4 billion dollars is not such a huge sum of money in the grander scheme of things, is in providing a political, moral and military (posse and technological know-how) support to Israel, including, of course, fighting for Israel's interests in the region. That is priceless, for everything else there is a Mastercard;)

    P.S. Many everyday Israelis from Israel (born and raised there) present a much more vibrant and diverse set of opinions and thoughts than American neocons (including not from so called "elites") and their Christian Zionist brethren many of whom are literally dumb as fvcks.
    , @Talha
    Great video - thanks much!

    And I totally agree with Andrei on his "PS". In fact, I have seen way better reporting about what actually happens in Israel from normal media sources in Israel. I wish the MSM in the US would report likewise.

    Peace.

    , @Avery
    The young orthodox couple at the beginning: "The Jews survived the Holocaust".

    Yes, they did. But the young couple forgot how. Jews survived mainly because of the Red Army and the incredible sacrifices of the peoples of USSR (~25 million KIA, killed, starved to death, murdered,....).
    If SU had not crushed the Nazi war machine, there would be no European Jews left of any significant number. Plus the fact that a large number of Jews found shelter and safety in SU*. (...Roosevelt would not allow Jews escaping from Nazi Germany into US in the beginning).

    And the most accurate assessment was given by the Israeli reserve soldier: he clearly knows how numbers add up. Israel would win any sharp, short military engagement, but without financial backing of US taxpayer, it simply cannot afford to maintain the military superiority it has over its enemies and adversaries. It will be bled to death, financially and manpower wise in a protracted egagement.

    Plus, without US protective umbrella, its economy will be in dire straights. That is one reason that Jewish-Americans have pulled all stops to crush the BDS movement before it takes root.

    _________________
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    [Russia Helped 1,750,000 Jews to Escape Nazis, Says James N. Rosenberg
    https://www.jta.org/1943/07/02/archive/russia-helped-1750000-jews-to-escape-nazis-says-james-n-rosenberg

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  158. @Bardon Kaldian
    Be as it may- they know where would they be without US:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt2uvO3vh2s

    Be as it may- they know where would they be without US:

    The main American benefit to Israel, granted that 4 billion dollars is not such a huge sum of money in the grander scheme of things, is in providing a political, moral and military (posse and technological know-how) support to Israel, including, of course, fighting for Israel’s interests in the region. That is priceless, for everything else there is a Mastercard;)

    P.S. Many everyday Israelis from Israel (born and raised there) present a much more vibrant and diverse set of opinions and thoughts than American neocons (including not from so called “elites”) and their Christian Zionist brethren many of whom are literally dumb as fvcks.

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    This is one for you, about Russian educational "terror" in Israel ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x1PwHsG6C0
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  159. Talha says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    Be as it may- they know where would they be without US:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt2uvO3vh2s

    Great video – thanks much!

    And I totally agree with Andrei on his “PS”. In fact, I have seen way better reporting about what actually happens in Israel from normal media sources in Israel. I wish the MSM in the US would report likewise.

    Peace.

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  160. Avery says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    Be as it may- they know where would they be without US:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt2uvO3vh2s

    The young orthodox couple at the beginning: “The Jews survived the Holocaust”.

    Yes, they did. But the young couple forgot how. Jews survived mainly because of the Red Army and the incredible sacrifices of the peoples of USSR (~25 million KIA, killed, starved to death, murdered,….).
    If SU had not crushed the Nazi war machine, there would be no European Jews left of any significant number. Plus the fact that a large number of Jews found shelter and safety in SU*. (…Roosevelt would not allow Jews escaping from Nazi Germany into US in the beginning).

    And the most accurate assessment was given by the Israeli reserve soldier: he clearly knows how numbers add up. Israel would win any sharp, short military engagement, but without financial backing of US taxpayer, it simply cannot afford to maintain the military superiority it has over its enemies and adversaries. It will be bled to death, financially and manpower wise in a protracted egagement.

    Plus, without US protective umbrella, its economy will be in dire straights. That is one reason that Jewish-Americans have pulled all stops to crush the BDS movement before it takes root.

    _________________
    *
    [Russia Helped 1,750,000 Jews to Escape Nazis, Says James N. Rosenberg

    https://www.jta.org/1943/07/02/archive/russia-helped-1750000-jews-to-escape-nazis-says-james-n-rosenberg

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  161. Mulegino1 says:

    “Jews survived mainly because of the Red Army and the incredible sacrifices of the peoples of USSR (~25 million KIA, killed, starved to death, murdered,….).
    If SU had not crushed the Nazi war machine, there would be no European Jews left of any significant number. Plus the fact that a large number of Jews found shelter and safety in SU*. (…Roosevelt would not allow Jews escaping from Nazi Germany into US in the beginning).”

    There was never any plan to murder the Jews of Europe planned, proposed, initiated or engaged in by the Third Reich. All authentic documents from the period demonstrate that the policy of the NSDAP government was to either have most of the Jews leave Germany (and subsequent to 1939, the areas under German occupation) via emigration elsewhere or via resettlement.

    There was the Transfer Agreement, the Madagascar Plan, and ultimately, the idea of resettlement of the Jews in the occupied territories of the USSR.

    This is attested to in official documentation, most succintly in the Luther Memorandum of the Reich Foreign Ministry of August, 1942, which stated (inter alia): “At the end of the war, the Jews will have to leave Europe. This is the unalterable decision of the Fuehrer.” If the Jews would have to “leave” Europe after the war, it stands to reason that there was no policy to murder them all.

    Many Jews were indeed shot in anti-partisan reprisals on the Eastern Front, and there was an order to summarily execute Soviet Jewish commissars. Such reprisal shootings were not illegal under the international rules governing the conduct of war, which the Wehrmacht enforced as strictly, and perhaps more strictly, than most of the Allies, as is evidenced by the photo of the Polish p.o.w.’s at Dachau upon their “liberation” where they appear to be in fine physical condition. Unfortunately, since the USSR refused to sign the Geneva Conventions and placed all captured Soviet troops under a sentence of death, and refused to allow Axis p.o.w.’s access to food parcels or visits from the Red Cross (basically forcing them to starve to death) the unfortunate Soviet p.o.w.’s were given, in many cases, subject to absolute neglect by the Wehrmacht and thousands starved to death. Such is reciprocity or the lack thereof.

    As far as the “gas chamber” legend goes, that is sheer, unadulterated bunk, which has been completely disproved by chemical analysis, forensic examination, and simple common sense. The Auschwitz-Birkenau and Majdanek stories of over 1.5 million dead are free inventions- many of which were elicited through the torture of captured administrators of the camps.

    There were no homicidal gas chambers using Zyklon-B, which was a common and commercially available pesticide designed to be used for slow, safe, fumigation. The method of its use as described by the so called “eyewitnesses” would not have worked. The Germans had excellent delousing facilities which did use Zyklon-B and start of the art heating and circulating systems. Even Jean-Claude Pressac, the most technically literate establishment historian on Auschwitz-Birkenau, conceded that at least 95% of the Zyklon-B requisitioned was used for delousing -which implies that ALL of it was used for such purposes. The Germans were not dumb enough to simply knock holes in the walls of the crematory morgues (the crematories were built for hygienic purposes in the wake of the Typhus epidemics) and then drop Zyklon-B pellets into them. Besides, there are no traces of iron cyanide compound in any of the masonry in the ruins of the “gas chambers” but there are abundant traces in the masonry of the delousing facilities. Iron cyanide forms when the hydrogen cyanide (active ingredient of Zyklon-B) binds with the iron in brickwork.

    As far as Treblinka II is concerned, it appears that the whole thing is a hoax. There were a few buildings there and the place was bordered by cultivated farmland. There are no traces of any large ground disturbances there and no trace of gigantic piles of human remains or mass graves.

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  162. anarchyst says:
    @VickPM
    Well. Why is the catholic church full of homosexual buggarists? The Jews made them do it? Full of pedophiles? Why does cult marxist Europe pioneer same sex marriage? Look at all the christian denominations going homosexual. What's behind that? Jews? You have a Jewish persecution paranoia complex. And you blame Jews for dying christian cultural failures. Look at what's happening in Europe! Fail is the only word that comes to mind. Just settle your mind once and for all: do the Jews control the homo catholic church? The Anglican church? The lutheran church? The methodists? The presbyterians? Answer this question: did the Jews cause all those churches to go homo?

    The rate of incidence for sex criumes is about 1 %.
    That is Far less than that of Protestants, J EW Rabbis, Boy Scout troopmasters or certainly Public School administrators. The leader in sex crimes against children is usually inter family related ie Step Fathers, Friends, uncles etc.
    J EWs made a crisis, than brought suit against the centralized Catholic Church and in so doing, forever tarnished the clergy who was their archnemesis.

    Free Republic

    Pedophilia Only a Catholic Sin?
    August 14th, 2009 | Kevin Roeten

    Pedophilia Only a Catholic Sin?

    It turns out pedophilia is an incorrect term, and Catholics aren’t responsible for most of it.

    [MORE]

    Shockingly, AP breaks out of their typical liberal mold and reports Insurance companies shed light on extent of sex abuse in Protestant churches, that sexual abuse of minors has been rampant. But in their statement, they indirectly say members of the Catholic Church are not the majority abusers.

    AP discusses the raw numbers from three companies that insure the majority of protestant churches in America (Church Mutual, Guide One, and Brotherhood Mutual), and typically receive 260 reports/yr of people under 18 being sexually abused. Compare that with ~228 credible accusations/yr against Catholic clerics since 1950 (documented abuse records).

    Together with that information, it is known that the Catholic Church greatly outnumbers any specific Protestant denomination, and the data for Protestant churches is available only for the last seven years. Ever since the first sexual abuse cases had been reported, Catholics have had requirements: 1) police background check done on all volunteers–including priests, 2) a second person be present at all religious functions, and 3) all personnel involved with minors must take routine checks with “Protecting God’s Children”.

    Without a doubt, sexual abuse of a minor is one of the most despicable crimes and sins that man can perpetrate. But predators seem to thrive in an atmosphere where the base congregation is one of the most trusted organizations that exist.

    Philip Jenkins, in his 1996 book Pedophiles and Priests, [[link edited for length]], looked at the problem objectively and dispassionately. Jenkins (who is not Catholic) found that true pedophilia is extremely rare, and perhaps more common among Protestant clergy, and is even more common among married laymen.

    He found that in most sexual abuse cases (under the age of consent), the behavior is actually a variety of homosexuality. This sexual attraction with very young men that combine the charm of boyishness with sexual maturity is actually called ephebophilia. Pedophilia is really a psychiatric term meaning sexual interest in children below the age of puberty.’
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    ‘The worst sex crimes against children is in the Jewish communities and protestant churches’
    Tomasi was not reserved with criticism either and citing data published by the daily Christian Science Monitor, which was founded a hundred years ago by the Christian Science Church, said that the Catholic Church cleaned its house, Jutarnji List writes.
    According to their figures the majority of the US child abuse cases happens in the Protestant churches and Jewish communities, says Tomasi.’

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    MORE PROTESTANT MINISTERS GUILTY OF PEDOPHILIA THAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS, NEW RESEARCH REVEALS

    A Penn State historian, Philip Jenkins, has done an in depth research of pedophilia and sexual abuse among the clergy and has come up with some rather eye opening facts. It seems that while 1.7 percent of Catholic clergy have been guilty of pedophilia (or sexual abuse particularly of boys), a whopping TEN percent of Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia!

    This is all the more interesting, notes Jenkins, since there has been NO media term “Pastor Pedophilia” coined at all!

    Jenkins theorizes that the media, proving the ‘point’ of the ‘necessity’ of sexual promiscuity, overemphasizes any instance of pedophilia found among the Catholic clergy since it can use this to criticize the entire idea of celibacy. But it is interesting that the NON Celibate Protestant ministers have a MUCH GREATER problem with it than the celibate Catholic priests!

    Protestant pastor pedophilia is not within the frame of our ‘social constructionists’ as Jenkins calls the media:

    “In the 1980’s, [Pastor] Leyva had abused perhaps one hundred boys in several Southern states, but few of us ever learned of it. Leyva had the distinction of being a Pentecostal minister and was, therefore, not within the ‘frame’ of those who were busy constructing reality. The same is true of the three brothers, all Baptist ministers, who were charged with child molestation in the 1990’s; the public learned little about this highly unusual series of cases because it was not deemed worthy of dissemination by those fixated on Catholic scandals.” [1]

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    You poor thing! Everyone knows the Jewish law says homosexual buggery is an abomination. Apparently the catholic church 'didn't get the memo.' Catholic church homosexual buggery and sexual abuse is RAMPANT! Look at all the bankrupt diocese! What that tells you is catholics have no shame. You say it's a Jewish plot. Ha ha Ha! But that's not my ONLY point. All protestant denominations ALLOW SAME SEX MARRIAGE! In other words they sanction and CONSECRATE homosexual buggery! Now antichrist analchyst or whatever u call yourself do u support protestant denomination HOLY MATRIMONY BUGGERY between male and male? Or is that all a Jew plot too? Just answer the question analchyst or whatever your name is.
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  163. anarchyst says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Circumcision is not mutiliation. It is an ancient ritual practice that has come under attack for as long as it has been practiced. The ancient homosexual greeks outlawed circumcision along with the modern day Russian Communists. The anti-circumcision cudgel has been taken up by the secular cult Marxists.

     

    Wtf..... don't mess with my schlong ! Verboten.

    circumcision is “male genital mutilation, the same thing as “female genital mutilation” BOTH should be outlawed as barbaric practices…

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    barbaric practices
     
    Or maybe preventative health measures...
    "The study says the benefits of newborn circumcision exceed the risks by at least 100 to 1. Clinical research has found circumcision can safeguard an infant from a number of health complications, most notably urinary tract infections. Kidney damage develops in about half of infants who contract a UTI. The adult lifetime risk for a UTI is approximately 1 in 3 for uncircumcised men. Additionally, circumcision has been found to lowers one's risk for contracting HIV and HPV, the human papilloma virus, which can cause genital warts and has been linked to some cancers."
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/circumcision-rates-declining-health-risks-rising-study-says/

    "Health benefits linked to newborn circumcision
    Review of 1,000 studies yields same AAP recommendation: Leave decision to parents"
    http://www.aappublications.org/content/33/9/1.2.full

    Keep government out of our kids' schlongs.

    Peace.
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  164. Talha says:
    @anarchyst
    circumcision is "male genital mutilation, the same thing as "female genital mutilation" BOTH should be outlawed as barbaric practices...

    barbaric practices

    Or maybe preventative health measures…
    “The study says the benefits of newborn circumcision exceed the risks by at least 100 to 1. Clinical research has found circumcision can safeguard an infant from a number of health complications, most notably urinary tract infections. Kidney damage develops in about half of infants who contract a UTI. The adult lifetime risk for a UTI is approximately 1 in 3 for uncircumcised men. Additionally, circumcision has been found to lowers one’s risk for contracting HIV and HPV, the human papilloma virus, which can cause genital warts and has been linked to some cancers.”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/circumcision-rates-declining-health-risks-rising-study-says/

    Health benefits linked to newborn circumcision
    Review of 1,000 studies yields same AAP recommendation: Leave decision to parents”

    http://www.aappublications.org/content/33/9/1.2.full

    Keep government out of our kids’ schlongs.

    Peace.

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    this is the same government that wants to force mandatory vaccinations , despite the risk to more than just a few children.
    You are right...keep government out of our kid's schlongs. Most of the time, it is only ASSUMED that parents opt FOR circumcision--parental permission not being specifically granted.
    With proper instruction, uncircumcised males have no increased risk of disease than circumcised males.
    I stand by my statement, circumcision IS male genital mutilation...
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  165. Miro23 says:
    @AaronB
    Yes, I think the concept of civilizational cycle is really important in understanding history.

    It seems to me the key to history.

    It's interesting, but when a country rises, another one always falls. Like now with Chins, just as the US is declining, China rises.

    It would have been interesting if China was rising and the US wasn't declining.

    And ifts not just relative, America is declining in an absolute sense.

    Apparently, history is the interaction of groups in different phases of their civilizational cycle.

    It's why conquest really isn't impressive - you're always conquering someone at the low ebb of his civilizations cycle.

    Imperial expansion is also subject to the law of the cycle. It starts out horrific then gradually mellows out right before it completely collapses. You can't keep an empire being mellow, just, and fair. When you start acting like that, it means you're no longer really interested in empire.

    European Imperialism started out horrific. The British in Tasmania were demons wearing clothes.The Belgian Congo, the French in Algeria, etc. Horrific.

    By the time the British became relatively mellow, just, and fair, the empire was on its way out. Ghandi saw this, and gave a final push to an empty shell.

    Allowing for differences in the form of empire which make it difficult to compare, I don't know if the Jewish Imperial phase is more sadistic than the European one.

    In their very different ways, they seem similar. I'm guessing all imperial phases are sadistic and horrific initially.

    I'm guessing we can expect Jews to enter their mellow imperial phase fairly soon,. Ron Unz has documented a massive decline in Jewish performance on the most prestigious science and math tests.

    Sir John Glubb tried to map the phases of empire and found that the first stage of decline is when a group no longer cares about serious achievement and focuses exclusively on money.

    We can't yet fully assess the Jewish Imperial phase until it's over.

    My guess within the next fifty years the immense Jewish power we see today will be a dim memory.

    Thanks for the interesting post.

    I really like Andy Grove’s book “Only the Paranoid Survive” with businesses (and Empires) dying of self-satisfaction, complacency and opting out of work – outsourcing it, getting immigrants to do it, and generally looking for all the easy options.

    The USA has been a world class example of lazy hubris since the early 1960′s or maybe even earlier. While the Asians were studying the Americans were partying.

    Sam Cooke set the tone in his 1961 hit “What a Wonderful World”:

    Don’t know much about history
    Don’t know much biology
    Don’t know much about a science book,
    Don’t know much about the French I took
    But I do know that I love you,
    And I know that if you love me, too,
    What a wonderful world this would be

    Don’t know much about geography,
    Don’t know much trigonometry
    Don’t know much about algebra,
    Don’t know what a slide rule is for
    But I do know that one and one is two,
    And if this one could be with you,
    What a wonderful world this would be

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  166. anarchyst says:
    @Talha

    barbaric practices
     
    Or maybe preventative health measures...
    "The study says the benefits of newborn circumcision exceed the risks by at least 100 to 1. Clinical research has found circumcision can safeguard an infant from a number of health complications, most notably urinary tract infections. Kidney damage develops in about half of infants who contract a UTI. The adult lifetime risk for a UTI is approximately 1 in 3 for uncircumcised men. Additionally, circumcision has been found to lowers one's risk for contracting HIV and HPV, the human papilloma virus, which can cause genital warts and has been linked to some cancers."
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/circumcision-rates-declining-health-risks-rising-study-says/

    "Health benefits linked to newborn circumcision
    Review of 1,000 studies yields same AAP recommendation: Leave decision to parents"
    http://www.aappublications.org/content/33/9/1.2.full

    Keep government out of our kids' schlongs.

    Peace.

    this is the same government that wants to force mandatory vaccinations , despite the risk to more than just a few children.
    You are right…keep government out of our kid’s schlongs. Most of the time, it is only ASSUMED that parents opt FOR circumcision–parental permission not being specifically granted.
    With proper instruction, uncircumcised males have no increased risk of disease than circumcised males.
    I stand by my statement, circumcision IS male genital mutilation…

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    Hey anarchyst,

    I stand by my statement, circumcision IS male genital mutilation…
     
    Totally fine - I stand by my mom's biryani - parents shouldn't be forced either way. I was simply showing medical evidence that parents who do make this decision make it on a calculated basis (even many Christians and non-believers) for the benefit of their children. When you have statistics for the US like...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision#/media/File:United_States_Neonatal_Circumcision_Rate_by_Region.svg

    ...then it becomes obvious that this is an accepted practice among the super-majority of the population in certain areas (well, I guess it depends since Whites are declining and happen to be the most supportive according to the article I cited). The two (very capable) White female pediatricians that did the procedure for my sons didn't bat an eye when it was requested.

    Definitely not a hill to die on.

    Peace.
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  167. @Andrei Martyanov

    Be as it may- they know where would they be without US:
     
    The main American benefit to Israel, granted that 4 billion dollars is not such a huge sum of money in the grander scheme of things, is in providing a political, moral and military (posse and technological know-how) support to Israel, including, of course, fighting for Israel's interests in the region. That is priceless, for everything else there is a Mastercard;)

    P.S. Many everyday Israelis from Israel (born and raised there) present a much more vibrant and diverse set of opinions and thoughts than American neocons (including not from so called "elites") and their Christian Zionist brethren many of whom are literally dumb as fvcks.

    This is one for you, about Russian educational “terror” in Israel ….

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  168. Talha says:
    @anarchyst
    this is the same government that wants to force mandatory vaccinations , despite the risk to more than just a few children.
    You are right...keep government out of our kid's schlongs. Most of the time, it is only ASSUMED that parents opt FOR circumcision--parental permission not being specifically granted.
    With proper instruction, uncircumcised males have no increased risk of disease than circumcised males.
    I stand by my statement, circumcision IS male genital mutilation...

    Hey anarchyst,

    I stand by my statement, circumcision IS male genital mutilation…

    Totally fine – I stand by my mom’s biryani – parents shouldn’t be forced either way. I was simply showing medical evidence that parents who do make this decision make it on a calculated basis (even many Christians and non-believers) for the benefit of their children. When you have statistics for the US like…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision#/media/File:United_States_Neonatal_Circumcision_Rate_by_Region.svg

    …then it becomes obvious that this is an accepted practice among the super-majority of the population in certain areas (well, I guess it depends since Whites are declining and happen to be the most supportive according to the article I cited). The two (very capable) White female pediatricians that did the procedure for my sons didn’t bat an eye when it was requested.

    Definitely not a hill to die on.

    Peace.

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    {...…then it becomes obvious that this is an accepted practice among the super-majority of the population in certain areas}

    Yo, Talha:

    Just because it is an accepted practice, it does not make it right.
    Lots of things were accepted practice not too long ago, in society in general, and medical practice in particular. Doctors used to advertise for tobacco companies. Doctors used to advise people not to eat butter, but eat margarine instead. Today Americans, young and old, are probably the most (prescription) drugged people in the world: yet our life expectancy is 29th amongst OECD countries.
    Past couple of years it has actually gone down.

    Poster [anarchyst] at #165 is right: "circumcision IS male genital mutilation…"
    It's a barbaric practice foisted on defenseless male babies when they cannot say "No".
    If they grow up and decide to do it on their own, fine.
    But once they are mutilated, it is too late: cannot be undone.

    I remember many years ago here in California, doctors wouldn't even ask the parents: they would just do it on their own. So we made sure to insist when males were about to be born in our families that there will be no circumcision.

    As to the 'accepted' barbarism being foisted on the general American male babies by doctors, it doesn't take a genius to realize why it was/is being done.

    Outside of US and Muslim countries, there is no such thing as default circumcision. There was no circumcision in USSR. And to the best of my knowledge, there is no circumcision in either China or India: clearly, it hasn't hurt their reproduction rates.

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  169. VickPM says:
    @anarchyst
    The rate of incidence for sex criumes is about 1 %.
    That is Far less than that of Protestants, J EW Rabbis, Boy Scout troopmasters or certainly Public School administrators. The leader in sex crimes against children is usually inter family related ie Step Fathers, Friends, uncles etc.
    J EWs made a crisis, than brought suit against the centralized Catholic Church and in so doing, forever tarnished the clergy who was their archnemesis.

    Free Republic

    Pedophilia Only a Catholic Sin?
    August 14th, 2009 | Kevin Roeten

    Pedophilia Only a Catholic Sin?

    It turns out pedophilia is an incorrect term, and Catholics aren’t responsible for most of it.

    Shockingly, AP breaks out of their typical liberal mold and reports Insurance companies shed light on extent of sex abuse in Protestant churches, that sexual abuse of minors has been rampant. But in their statement, they indirectly say members of the Catholic Church are not the majority abusers.

    AP discusses the raw numbers from three companies that insure the majority of protestant churches in America (Church Mutual, Guide One, and Brotherhood Mutual), and typically receive 260 reports/yr of people under 18 being sexually abused. Compare that with ~228 credible accusations/yr against Catholic clerics since 1950 (documented abuse records).

    Together with that information, it is known that the Catholic Church greatly outnumbers any specific Protestant denomination, and the data for Protestant churches is available only for the last seven years. Ever since the first sexual abuse cases had been reported, Catholics have had requirements: 1) police background check done on all volunteers–including priests, 2) a second person be present at all religious functions, and 3) all personnel involved with minors must take routine checks with “Protecting God’s Children”.

    Without a doubt, sexual abuse of a minor is one of the most despicable crimes and sins that man can perpetrate. But predators seem to thrive in an atmosphere where the base congregation is one of the most trusted organizations that exist.

    Philip Jenkins, in his 1996 book Pedophiles and Priests, [[link edited for length]], looked at the problem objectively and dispassionately. Jenkins (who is not Catholic) found that true pedophilia is extremely rare, and perhaps more common among Protestant clergy, and is even more common among married laymen.

    He found that in most sexual abuse cases (under the age of consent), the behavior is actually a variety of homosexuality. This sexual attraction with very young men that combine the charm of boyishness with sexual maturity is actually called ephebophilia. Pedophilia is really a psychiatric term meaning sexual interest in children below the age of puberty.’
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    ‘The worst sex crimes against children is in the Jewish communities and protestant churches’
    Tomasi was not reserved with criticism either and citing data published by the daily Christian Science Monitor, which was founded a hundred years ago by the Christian Science Church, said that the Catholic Church cleaned its house, Jutarnji List writes.
    According to their figures the majority of the US child abuse cases happens in the Protestant churches and Jewish communities, says Tomasi.’

    —————————————————————————————————–

    MORE PROTESTANT MINISTERS GUILTY OF PEDOPHILIA THAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS, NEW RESEARCH REVEALS

    A Penn State historian, Philip Jenkins, has done an in depth research of pedophilia and sexual abuse among the clergy and has come up with some rather eye opening facts. It seems that while 1.7 percent of Catholic clergy have been guilty of pedophilia (or sexual abuse particularly of boys), a whopping TEN percent of Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia!

    This is all the more interesting, notes Jenkins, since there has been NO media term “Pastor Pedophilia” coined at all!

    Jenkins theorizes that the media, proving the ‘point’ of the ‘necessity’ of sexual promiscuity, overemphasizes any instance of pedophilia found among the Catholic clergy since it can use this to criticize the entire idea of celibacy. But it is interesting that the NON Celibate Protestant ministers have a MUCH GREATER problem with it than the celibate Catholic priests!

    Protestant pastor pedophilia is not within the frame of our ‘social constructionists’ as Jenkins calls the media:

    “In the 1980’s, [Pastor] Leyva had abused perhaps one hundred boys in several Southern states, but few of us ever learned of it. Leyva had the distinction of being a Pentecostal minister and was, therefore, not within the ‘frame’ of those who were busy constructing reality. The same is true of the three brothers, all Baptist ministers, who were charged with child molestation in the 1990’s; the public learned little about this highly unusual series of cases because it was not deemed worthy of dissemination by those fixated on Catholic scandals.” [1]

    You poor thing! Everyone knows the Jewish law says homosexual buggery is an abomination. Apparently the catholic church ‘didn’t get the memo.’ Catholic church homosexual buggery and sexual abuse is RAMPANT! Look at all the bankrupt diocese! What that tells you is catholics have no shame. You say it’s a Jewish plot. Ha ha Ha! But that’s not my ONLY point. All protestant denominations ALLOW SAME SEX MARRIAGE! In other words they sanction and CONSECRATE homosexual buggery! Now antichrist analchyst or whatever u call yourself do u support protestant denomination HOLY MATRIMONY BUGGERY between male and male? Or is that all a Jew plot too? Just answer the question analchyst or whatever your name is.

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    You are wrong!
    Not true...the jewish TALMUD (not the Torah-first 5 books of the Bible) states that one may have sex with a child over the age of three years and a day. The Talmud does not differentiate between boy or girl.
    Where did you get the idea that I support sodomy? Nothing could be further from the truth. You are one deranged woman...your hatred of Catholics brands you as (possibly) a rabid Baptist...
    "Equal rights" for homosexuals IS pushed by jewish groups, in order to weaken American, and western societies...
    I will educate you. It is FACT that there was (and probably still is) a homosexual component in the American Catholic seminary system. Heterosexual candidates for the priesthood were purposely denied admission so that homosexuals could get their "brethren" in the system, providing a convenient cover for their sodomite activities. When they became bishops, they perpetuated this abomination by moving homosexual priests around, rather than exposing them. The Catholic church deserved to PAY for their transgressions, both civilly and criminally.
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  170. @Andrei Martyanov
    I merely pointed to ONE OF the examples, using Phil's observation on US military. You, evidently, missed a superb passage there about loyalty. If you have Direct or Dish TV, without even tuning in, in the Program Guide find God TV Channel and count how many times they broadcast (like yesterday) such "shows" as Prayer For Israel and Israelis.

    http://god.tv/israel

    Have you been to or saw "shows" from Evangelical mega-churches lately? The so called Evangelical landscape is dominated by pro-Israel and pro-Jewish sermons and rhetoric. It is a cold hard fact. And no, those people, their fanatical ideology ("religion") is a huge factor in delivering the US to the Israel's altar and turning US foreign policy in unmitigated disaster. In the end, do you need me to post here this famous video with US (are they really US???) Congress' 26 standing ovations to Bibi's speech--a humiliating and revolting show of utter submission by what one, otherwise, would consider a foundation of American Republic and national interest. Ask yourself a question how many of those Congresspeople (and Senators) have sizable Cristian Zionist constituencies which they really need if they want to get reelected.

    Ask yourself if these congressmen depend more on pro-Israel Christian voters, or Jewish money. Jewish money dominates American politics.

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  171. Avery says:
    @Talha
    Hey anarchyst,

    I stand by my statement, circumcision IS male genital mutilation…
     
    Totally fine - I stand by my mom's biryani - parents shouldn't be forced either way. I was simply showing medical evidence that parents who do make this decision make it on a calculated basis (even many Christians and non-believers) for the benefit of their children. When you have statistics for the US like...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision#/media/File:United_States_Neonatal_Circumcision_Rate_by_Region.svg

    ...then it becomes obvious that this is an accepted practice among the super-majority of the population in certain areas (well, I guess it depends since Whites are declining and happen to be the most supportive according to the article I cited). The two (very capable) White female pediatricians that did the procedure for my sons didn't bat an eye when it was requested.

    Definitely not a hill to die on.

    Peace.

    {……then it becomes obvious that this is an accepted practice among the super-majority of the population in certain areas}

    Yo, Talha:

    Just because it is an accepted practice, it does not make it right.
    Lots of things were accepted practice not too long ago, in society in general, and medical practice in particular. Doctors used to advertise for tobacco companies. Doctors used to advise people not to eat butter, but eat margarine instead. Today Americans, young and old, are probably the most (prescription) drugged people in the world: yet our life expectancy is 29th amongst OECD countries.
    Past couple of years it has actually gone down.

    Poster [anarchyst] at #165 is right: “circumcision IS male genital mutilation…”
    It’s a barbaric practice foisted on defenseless male babies when they cannot say “No”.
    If they grow up and decide to do it on their own, fine.
    But once they are mutilated, it is too late: cannot be undone.

    I remember many years ago here in California, doctors wouldn’t even ask the parents: they would just do it on their own. So we made sure to insist when males were about to be born in our families that there will be no circumcision.

    As to the ‘accepted’ barbarism being foisted on the general American male babies by doctors, it doesn’t take a genius to realize why it was/is being done.

    Outside of US and Muslim countries, there is no such thing as default circumcision. There was no circumcision in USSR. And to the best of my knowledge, there is no circumcision in either China or India: clearly, it hasn’t hurt their reproduction rates.

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    Hey Avery,

    defenseless male babies when they cannot say “No”.
     
    Same with vaccination - that's the point. Parents make a heck of a lot of decisions without their kids' input. We had our daughter's ears pierced when she was a toddler also - never asked her permission. We're already called barbarians in many circles so add it to the list.

    As to the ‘accepted’ barbarism being foisted on the general American male babies by doctors, it doesn’t take a genius to realize why it was/is being done.
     
    Are you saying there is a Jewish conspiracy in the American Academy of Pediatrics to rob goy babies of muh foreskin? If so, please use plain language.

    It's fairly clear what they have concluded based on hundreds of studies. If one wants to pooh-pooh that data - totally fine. All parents make calculated decisions like this all the time; we refused to let our son play football in high school due to safety concerns - other parents can't wait to let their kids butt heads against other kids' heads. Their kids, their choice.


    it hasn’t hurt their reproduction rates
     
    Studies were about disease prevention - not reproduction.

    Peace.

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  172. Talha says:
    @Avery
    {...…then it becomes obvious that this is an accepted practice among the super-majority of the population in certain areas}

    Yo, Talha:

    Just because it is an accepted practice, it does not make it right.
    Lots of things were accepted practice not too long ago, in society in general, and medical practice in particular. Doctors used to advertise for tobacco companies. Doctors used to advise people not to eat butter, but eat margarine instead. Today Americans, young and old, are probably the most (prescription) drugged people in the world: yet our life expectancy is 29th amongst OECD countries.
    Past couple of years it has actually gone down.

    Poster [anarchyst] at #165 is right: "circumcision IS male genital mutilation…"
    It's a barbaric practice foisted on defenseless male babies when they cannot say "No".
    If they grow up and decide to do it on their own, fine.
    But once they are mutilated, it is too late: cannot be undone.

    I remember many years ago here in California, doctors wouldn't even ask the parents: they would just do it on their own. So we made sure to insist when males were about to be born in our families that there will be no circumcision.

    As to the 'accepted' barbarism being foisted on the general American male babies by doctors, it doesn't take a genius to realize why it was/is being done.

    Outside of US and Muslim countries, there is no such thing as default circumcision. There was no circumcision in USSR. And to the best of my knowledge, there is no circumcision in either China or India: clearly, it hasn't hurt their reproduction rates.

    Hey Avery,

    defenseless male babies when they cannot say “No”.

    Same with vaccination – that’s the point. Parents make a heck of a lot of decisions without their kids’ input. We had our daughter’s ears pierced when she was a toddler also – never asked her permission. We’re already called barbarians in many circles so add it to the list.

    As to the ‘accepted’ barbarism being foisted on the general American male babies by doctors, it doesn’t take a genius to realize why it was/is being done.

    Are you saying there is a Jewish conspiracy in the American Academy of Pediatrics to rob goy babies of muh foreskin? If so, please use plain language.

    It’s fairly clear what they have concluded based on hundreds of studies. If one wants to pooh-pooh that data – totally fine. All parents make calculated decisions like this all the time; we refused to let our son play football in high school due to safety concerns – other parents can’t wait to let their kids butt heads against other kids’ heads. Their kids, their choice.

    it hasn’t hurt their reproduction rates

    Studies were about disease prevention – not reproduction.

    Peace.

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    {Same with vaccination}


    Vaccination leaves no visible scars and does not physically mutilate the body.
    There is _some_ danger to the individual due to vaccination, but the danger to the general un-vaccinated public of an unchecked epidemic spreading is orders of magnitude greater.

    {We had our daughter’s ears pierced}

    Are you serious? You are comparing pierced ears to mutilation of boy's penis?
    A pierced ear without an earring looks no different than an un-pierced ear: you have to look very closely to even see there is a piercing.

    {...disease prevention...}

    I already mentioned, in a roundabout way, how faulty studies - either deliberate or due to negligence - have resulted in doctors advocating this or that, which were later proven to be wrong. At one time doctors genuinely believed smoking was good for you.

    As to disease prevention and reproduction: isn't it obvious that a diseased penis will have difficulty impregnating, and if it was such a big problem it would necessary show up in diminishing of reproduction? So maybe the studies had an agenda. Happens all the time.


    {Are you saying there is a Jewish conspiracy...}: Nope. It is not a conspiracy. A lot simpler than that: money. Like all unnecessary procedures, somebody pays --- and the doctor gets paid.
    Circumcision costs $850-$3,000: either you or the insurance pays. Makes no difference: doctors get paid. That's why it's done: easy money.

    btw: I am surprised you'd go the 'Jewish conspiracy' route. You've read my posts: I am not shy about ragging on Jews when it's called for. You know we Armenians are immune to Jewish guilt-tripping: our Genocide was before theirs.

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  173. Avery says:
    @Talha
    Hey Avery,

    defenseless male babies when they cannot say “No”.
     
    Same with vaccination - that's the point. Parents make a heck of a lot of decisions without their kids' input. We had our daughter's ears pierced when she was a toddler also - never asked her permission. We're already called barbarians in many circles so add it to the list.

    As to the ‘accepted’ barbarism being foisted on the general American male babies by doctors, it doesn’t take a genius to realize why it was/is being done.
     
    Are you saying there is a Jewish conspiracy in the American Academy of Pediatrics to rob goy babies of muh foreskin? If so, please use plain language.

    It's fairly clear what they have concluded based on hundreds of studies. If one wants to pooh-pooh that data - totally fine. All parents make calculated decisions like this all the time; we refused to let our son play football in high school due to safety concerns - other parents can't wait to let their kids butt heads against other kids' heads. Their kids, their choice.


    it hasn’t hurt their reproduction rates
     
    Studies were about disease prevention - not reproduction.

    Peace.

    {Same with vaccination}

    Vaccination leaves no visible scars and does not physically mutilate the body.
    There is _some_ danger to the individual due to vaccination, but the danger to the general un-vaccinated public of an unchecked epidemic spreading is orders of magnitude greater.

    {We had our daughter’s ears pierced}

    Are you serious? You are comparing pierced ears to mutilation of boy’s penis?
    A pierced ear without an earring looks no different than an un-pierced ear: you have to look very closely to even see there is a piercing.

    {…disease prevention…}

    I already mentioned, in a roundabout way, how faulty studies – either deliberate or due to negligence – have resulted in doctors advocating this or that, which were later proven to be wrong. At one time doctors genuinely believed smoking was good for you.

    As to disease prevention and reproduction: isn’t it obvious that a diseased penis will have difficulty impregnating, and if it was such a big problem it would necessary show up in diminishing of reproduction? So maybe the studies had an agenda. Happens all the time.

    {Are you saying there is a Jewish conspiracy…}: Nope. It is not a conspiracy. A lot simpler than that: money. Like all unnecessary procedures, somebody pays — and the doctor gets paid.
    Circumcision costs $850-$3,000: either you or the insurance pays. Makes no difference: doctors get paid. That’s why it’s done: easy money.

    btw: I am surprised you’d go the ‘Jewish conspiracy’ route. You’ve read my posts: I am not shy about ragging on Jews when it’s called for. You know we Armenians are immune to Jewish guilt-tripping: our Genocide was before theirs.

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    {Are you saying there is a Jewish conspiracy…}: Nope. It is not a conspiracy. A lot simpler than that: money. Like all unnecessary procedures, somebody pays — and the doctor gets paid.
     
    Ha, ha, ha...I've always wondered about that matter...

    When I was growing up, I think the overwhelming majority of American children were circumcised, and I'd vaguely read somewhere that modern research studies had proven it medically beneficial, which seemed to make sense.

    Then, some years later, I happened to read that America was just about the only non-Semitic country in the world practicing widespread circumcision. Hmmm, I said, haven't doctors in other countries read those same research studies?

    Then I think I later read somewhere that circumcision had actually been very rare in America until shortly after the end of World War II, when a few research studies were published claiming that it was medically beneficial, and those claims were then massively hyped in the mainstream media, with opponents denounced as ignorant and backward. Hmmm, I said to myself, what an odd social development. It almost seems as if...

    That happened decades ago, long before I'd ever heard the term "crypsis" discussed in the human social context. And I've been too lazy to ever try to investigate the matter, but if someone ever does, I'll certainly be very curious to know the story and whether my speculation was actually correct.
    , @Talha
    Hey Avery,

    There is _some_ danger to the individual due to vaccination
     
    Good so now we agree on the principle; we're just haggling over the details. You think circumcision is not worth the risk for the benefits - we do - that's why it's called opinion - everyone has one. If we were talking about chopping off a boy's pinky with no benefits in return - yeah, I'd get your point.

    You are comparing pierced ears to mutilation of boy’s penis?
     
    In degrees yes - that's all it is, degrees. The thing is, you and I don't agree on baseline terms. You insist on calling it mutilation. It's not, it's circumcision - we don't mutilate our sons' bodies for the simple reason that mutilation is prohibited.

    I've noted that if one gives ground to the other side to define the terms, you let them win. This is how the Left has beaten back so much of traditional culture. "Patriarchy is slavery!" "Pro-choice!"

    Again, I don't mind adding it to the list of why we're pariahs. I guess it's up to society, do they really want to take this up as another issue to take out of the hands of parents and give to the state - because that's ultimately where this conversation is going. Otherwise, again, parents make cost-benefit decisions for their kids and come to different decisions.

    isn’t it obvious that a diseased penis will have difficulty impregnating, and if it was such a big problem it would necessary show up in diminishing of reproduction
     
    No - they were talking about kidney failure and cancer - that stuff takes place well after reproductive stage in most adults. But yes - there actually is quite a bit of reproduction drop-off happening all over the place - is it connected? Maybe.

    That’s why it’s done: easy money.
     
    Same deal with vaccinations - only the Big Pharma industry is now involved beyond just the individual doctor. By your logic, the vaccination industry is far more likely to be corrupted. Mo' money, mo' problems.

    I am surprised you’d go the ‘Jewish conspiracy’ route.
     
    Hey man - we're talking circumcision here so the connection was not out of left field. But you explained yourself; you meant it was corrupted by money. I agree, the medical industry is corrupted by money - no doubt about that.

    Peace.
    , @Anon
    I can testify that circumcision (MGM) is regarded with real horror in many parts of the world, quite as much as FGM.
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  174. VickPM says:

    Reuters

    TUE JAN 31, 2017 / 1:02 PM EST
    Norway’s Lutheran Church embraces same-sex marriage
    Gwladys Fouche8

    Can’t get more Nordic and white than that. Last I checked Lutheran is a christian white nordic german denomination. Must be those Jewish authored children’s books causing this! ‘The Jews made me do it’ said the Anglican priest as he sanctifies a homo buggery same sex MARRIAGE. The Jew the Jews the Jews! Lawd have mercy.

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    Right, because Norway's Lutheran Church and indeed Norway itself exist in total vacuum, unconnected to anything going on in wider culture, politics, academia etc.
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  175. Lurker says:
    @VickPM
    Reuters

    TUE JAN 31, 2017 / 1:02 PM EST
    Norway's Lutheran Church embraces same-sex marriage
    Gwladys Fouche8

    Can't get more Nordic and white than that. Last I checked Lutheran is a christian white nordic german denomination. Must be those Jewish authored children's books causing this! 'The Jews made me do it' said the Anglican priest as he sanctifies a homo buggery same sex MARRIAGE. The Jew the Jews the Jews! Lawd have mercy.

    Right, because Norway’s Lutheran Church and indeed Norway itself exist in total vacuum, unconnected to anything going on in wider culture, politics, academia etc.

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    But its not only Norway or the Lutherans. Its the anglicans and preabyterians and a whole host of Christian protestant denominations that sanction and SANCTIFY same sex marriage i.e. HOLY buggery MATRIMONY. That's the Christians for you....gone whole hog homo!
    , @VickPM
    What about the lutheran churches and united church of christ and episcopal churches in the USA? They all sanction same sex marriage. Marriage is HOLY MATRIMONY and the pastor blesses and sanctifies the male-male union. Now what's up with that.....sanctifying homosexual union and buggery bum sex in the dens of christendom? The Jews run those deviate churches? Yes or no?
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  176. VickPM says:
    @Mike Garrett
    Given that Russians had just been murdered by the millions by those following the secular Jewish doctrine called Communism, given the fact that over 1200 of fewer than 1500 seats on the Berlin Stock Exchange were in Jewish hands when the market crashed in 1929, and given the fact that without the secular Jews there would never have been an atomic bomb by the end of the Second World War, since all the major scientists who built the bomb for the Americans and the Russians were Jews, given all of these historical realities a the time, perhaps the idea that the Nazis were totally mad monsters attacking an innocent minority should be moderated a little. Yes, history will continue to paint the Nazi disaster as dark and racist, but there is no way that future generations in lands not dominated by Jewish bankers and media will not see two sides to this issue. The Germans were right to oppose being taken over the way Russia had been, the way Britain and America are today.

    Go to Israel and talk with the people on the streets for a few days. Over and over, day after day, people will say if you ask them about their beliefs: "I do not believe in God at all. Judaism is not my religion; it is my race." I guarantee you if you visited Israel for a month and South Carolina for a month and talked with the people, you would encounter far far more blatant racist attitudes among the Israelis, but the Jewish-run American media continue to use the Southerners, like the Germans, as a whipping boy.

    Body count reality check: 65000000 people were killed as a result of WWII. Only 6 million were Jews. Looks like the rest of Europe took the biggest hit…..inclufing Germany that was utterly defeated and crawling on hands and knees eating dung for decades all because of ……?

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    That some ten million Germans lost their lives in, and because of WWII, on a population of some 44 million, is hardly ever mentioned.
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  177. VickPM says:
    @Lurker
    Right, because Norway's Lutheran Church and indeed Norway itself exist in total vacuum, unconnected to anything going on in wider culture, politics, academia etc.

    But its not only Norway or the Lutherans. Its the anglicans and preabyterians and a whole host of Christian protestant denominations that sanction and SANCTIFY same sex marriage i.e. HOLY buggery MATRIMONY. That’s the Christians for you….gone whole hog homo!

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  178. Ron Unz says:
    @Avery
    {Same with vaccination}


    Vaccination leaves no visible scars and does not physically mutilate the body.
    There is _some_ danger to the individual due to vaccination, but the danger to the general un-vaccinated public of an unchecked epidemic spreading is orders of magnitude greater.

    {We had our daughter’s ears pierced}

    Are you serious? You are comparing pierced ears to mutilation of boy's penis?
    A pierced ear without an earring looks no different than an un-pierced ear: you have to look very closely to even see there is a piercing.

    {...disease prevention...}

    I already mentioned, in a roundabout way, how faulty studies - either deliberate or due to negligence - have resulted in doctors advocating this or that, which were later proven to be wrong. At one time doctors genuinely believed smoking was good for you.

    As to disease prevention and reproduction: isn't it obvious that a diseased penis will have difficulty impregnating, and if it was such a big problem it would necessary show up in diminishing of reproduction? So maybe the studies had an agenda. Happens all the time.


    {Are you saying there is a Jewish conspiracy...}: Nope. It is not a conspiracy. A lot simpler than that: money. Like all unnecessary procedures, somebody pays --- and the doctor gets paid.
    Circumcision costs $850-$3,000: either you or the insurance pays. Makes no difference: doctors get paid. That's why it's done: easy money.

    btw: I am surprised you'd go the 'Jewish conspiracy' route. You've read my posts: I am not shy about ragging on Jews when it's called for. You know we Armenians are immune to Jewish guilt-tripping: our Genocide was before theirs.

    {Are you saying there is a Jewish conspiracy…}: Nope. It is not a conspiracy. A lot simpler than that: money. Like all unnecessary procedures, somebody pays — and the doctor gets paid.

    Ha, ha, ha…I’ve always wondered about that matter…

    When I was growing up, I think the overwhelming majority of American children were circumcised, and I’d vaguely read somewhere that modern research studies had proven it medically beneficial, which seemed to make sense.

    Then, some years later, I happened to read that America was just about the only non-Semitic country in the world practicing widespread circumcision. Hmmm, I said, haven’t doctors in other countries read those same research studies?

    Then I think I later read somewhere that circumcision had actually been very rare in America until shortly after the end of World War II, when a few research studies were published claiming that it was medically beneficial, and those claims were then massively hyped in the mainstream media, with opponents denounced as ignorant and backward. Hmmm, I said to myself, what an odd social development. It almost seems as if…

    That happened decades ago, long before I’d ever heard the term “crypsis” discussed in the human social context. And I’ve been too lazy to ever try to investigate the matter, but if someone ever does, I’ll certainly be very curious to know the story and whether my speculation was actually correct.

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    If Wikipedia is to be trusted, modern non- religious circumcision is primarily an Anglospheroid phenomenon, originating in Britain & based on dated medical science: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision#Modern_times; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision#The_Americas, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision#Europe ).
    , @Anonymous
    Circumcision is of benefit in hot dry countries where regular bathing is difficult. Since large numbers of young American men were in such places after 1942, it does make sense in the context of the time.
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  179. Talha says:
    @Avery
    {Same with vaccination}


    Vaccination leaves no visible scars and does not physically mutilate the body.
    There is _some_ danger to the individual due to vaccination, but the danger to the general un-vaccinated public of an unchecked epidemic spreading is orders of magnitude greater.

    {We had our daughter’s ears pierced}

    Are you serious? You are comparing pierced ears to mutilation of boy's penis?
    A pierced ear without an earring looks no different than an un-pierced ear: you have to look very closely to even see there is a piercing.

    {...disease prevention...}

    I already mentioned, in a roundabout way, how faulty studies - either deliberate or due to negligence - have resulted in doctors advocating this or that, which were later proven to be wrong. At one time doctors genuinely believed smoking was good for you.

    As to disease prevention and reproduction: isn't it obvious that a diseased penis will have difficulty impregnating, and if it was such a big problem it would necessary show up in diminishing of reproduction? So maybe the studies had an agenda. Happens all the time.


    {Are you saying there is a Jewish conspiracy...}: Nope. It is not a conspiracy. A lot simpler than that: money. Like all unnecessary procedures, somebody pays --- and the doctor gets paid.
    Circumcision costs $850-$3,000: either you or the insurance pays. Makes no difference: doctors get paid. That's why it's done: easy money.

    btw: I am surprised you'd go the 'Jewish conspiracy' route. You've read my posts: I am not shy about ragging on Jews when it's called for. You know we Armenians are immune to Jewish guilt-tripping: our Genocide was before theirs.

    Hey Avery,

    There is _some_ danger to the individual due to vaccination

    Good so now we agree on the principle; we’re just haggling over the details. You think circumcision is not worth the risk for the benefits – we do – that’s why it’s called opinion – everyone has one. If we were talking about chopping off a boy’s pinky with no benefits in return – yeah, I’d get your point.

    You are comparing pierced ears to mutilation of boy’s penis?

    In degrees yes – that’s all it is, degrees. The thing is, you and I don’t agree on baseline terms. You insist on calling it mutilation. It’s not, it’s circumcision – we don’t mutilate our sons’ bodies for the simple reason that mutilation is prohibited.

    I’ve noted that if one gives ground to the other side to define the terms, you let them win. This is how the Left has beaten back so much of traditional culture. “Patriarchy is slavery!” “Pro-choice!”

    Again, I don’t mind adding it to the list of why we’re pariahs. I guess it’s up to society, do they really want to take this up as another issue to take out of the hands of parents and give to the state – because that’s ultimately where this conversation is going. Otherwise, again, parents make cost-benefit decisions for their kids and come to different decisions.

    isn’t it obvious that a diseased penis will have difficulty impregnating, and if it was such a big problem it would necessary show up in diminishing of reproduction

    No – they were talking about kidney failure and cancer – that stuff takes place well after reproductive stage in most adults. But yes – there actually is quite a bit of reproduction drop-off happening all over the place – is it connected? Maybe.

    That’s why it’s done: easy money.

    Same deal with vaccinations – only the Big Pharma industry is now involved beyond just the individual doctor. By your logic, the vaccination industry is far more likely to be corrupted. Mo’ money, mo’ problems.

    I am surprised you’d go the ‘Jewish conspiracy’ route.

    Hey man – we’re talking circumcision here so the connection was not out of left field. But you explained yourself; you meant it was corrupted by money. I agree, the medical industry is corrupted by money – no doubt about that.

    Peace.

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  180. Svigor says:

    If you look up the definition of “mutilation,” you’ll see that it doesn’t apply to circumcision. You might as well call rhinoplasty “mutilation.”

    Ron, I think your implications are probably mostly true. The trouble is, I think circumcision is a good thing; the last thing I need is a more sensitive dick.

    Just because it’s Jewish, doesn’t mean it’s bad. :)

    Funny how you commenters go stir crazy about Jews ruining your lives. SAD!

    What’s sad is the length to which Jews will go to deflect criticism, and thus stoke antisemitism. Like the “Jews ruining your lives” thing. It’s a Jewish invention. A straw man. Jews doing bad things? Pretend the goyim said “all bad things are done by Jews.” It’s a sad spectacle, the intellectual vacuum of Jewish apologetics.

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  181. @Ron Unz

    {Are you saying there is a Jewish conspiracy…}: Nope. It is not a conspiracy. A lot simpler than that: money. Like all unnecessary procedures, somebody pays — and the doctor gets paid.
     
    Ha, ha, ha...I've always wondered about that matter...

    When I was growing up, I think the overwhelming majority of American children were circumcised, and I'd vaguely read somewhere that modern research studies had proven it medically beneficial, which seemed to make sense.

    Then, some years later, I happened to read that America was just about the only non-Semitic country in the world practicing widespread circumcision. Hmmm, I said, haven't doctors in other countries read those same research studies?

    Then I think I later read somewhere that circumcision had actually been very rare in America until shortly after the end of World War II, when a few research studies were published claiming that it was medically beneficial, and those claims were then massively hyped in the mainstream media, with opponents denounced as ignorant and backward. Hmmm, I said to myself, what an odd social development. It almost seems as if...

    That happened decades ago, long before I'd ever heard the term "crypsis" discussed in the human social context. And I've been too lazy to ever try to investigate the matter, but if someone ever does, I'll certainly be very curious to know the story and whether my speculation was actually correct.

    If Wikipedia is to be trusted, modern non- religious circumcision is primarily an Anglospheroid phenomenon, originating in Britain & based on dated medical science: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision#Modern_times; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision#The_Americas, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision#Europe ).

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  182. @VickPM
    Body count reality check: 65000000 people were killed as a result of WWII. Only 6 million were Jews. Looks like the rest of Europe took the biggest hit.....inclufing Germany that was utterly defeated and crawling on hands and knees eating dung for decades all because of ......?

    That some ten million Germans lost their lives in, and because of WWII, on a population of some 44 million, is hardly ever mentioned.

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    That some ten million Germans lost their lives in, and because of WWII, on a population of some 44 million, is hardly ever mentioned.
     
    ? I doubt these figures are realistic. Germany proper had ca. 70 million people on the eve of WW II; total German losses, including Austrians & ethnic Germans outside of 3rd Reich are around 8 million people.

    And, Germany proper lost ca. 25% of its territory; combined with expulsions from other countries (Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Romania, Poland,..) German ethnic space shrunk, approximately, 35-40%.

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  183. Svigor says:

    That happened decades ago, long before I’d ever heard the term “crypsis” discussed in the human social context.

    What’s kind of amusing is how Jews hear “crypsis” and respond with talk of “Jewish conspiracy theories lulz,” but when you think about it, it doesn’t have to be any more conspiratorial than Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism. Fat chicks want fat chicks to be the next “in” thing; Jews want Jewish practices accepted and revered. It’s validation-seeking and rationalization in one; “if I get the whole of society doing it, it can’t be wrong – it must, in fact, be right.”

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  184. A Goy says:

    Dostoyevsky wrote; “Thus, Jewry is thriving precisely there where the people are still ignorant, or not free, or economically backward. It is there that Jewry has a champ libre. And instead of raising, by its influence, the level of education, instead of increasing knowledge, generating economic fitness in the native population — instead of this the Jew, wherever he has settled, has still more humiliated and debauched the people; there humaneness was still more debased and the educational level fell still lower; there inescapable, inhuman misery, and with it despair, spread still more disgustingly. Ask the native population in our border regions: What is propelling the Jew — and has been propelling him for centuries? You will receive a unanimous answer: mercilessness. ‘He has been prompted so many centuries only by pitilessness to us, only by the thirst for our sweat and blood.”

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    Yes and no. With Dostoevsky, nothing is black & white: http://eleven.co.il/?mode=article&id=11467&query=
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  185. @jilles dykstra
    That some ten million Germans lost their lives in, and because of WWII, on a population of some 44 million, is hardly ever mentioned.

    That some ten million Germans lost their lives in, and because of WWII, on a population of some 44 million, is hardly ever mentioned.

    ? I doubt these figures are realistic. Germany proper had ca. 70 million people on the eve of WW II; total German losses, including Austrians & ethnic Germans outside of 3rd Reich are around 8 million people.

    And, Germany proper lost ca. 25% of its territory; combined with expulsions from other countries (Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Romania, Poland,..) German ethnic space shrunk, approximately, 35-40%.

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  186. @A Goy
    Dostoyevsky wrote; "Thus, Jewry is thriving precisely there where the people are still ignorant, or not free, or economically backward. It is there that Jewry has a champ libre. And instead of raising, by its influence, the level of education, instead of increasing knowledge, generating economic fitness in the native population -- instead of this the Jew, wherever he has settled, has still more humiliated and debauched the people; there humaneness was still more debased and the educational level fell still lower; there inescapable, inhuman misery, and with it despair, spread still more disgustingly. Ask the native population in our border regions: What is propelling the Jew -- and has been propelling him for centuries? You will receive a unanimous answer: mercilessness. 'He has been prompted so many centuries only by pitilessness to us, only by the thirst for our sweat and blood."

    Yes and no. With Dostoevsky, nothing is black & white: http://eleven.co.il/?mode=article&id=11467&query=

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