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In April, CNN asked me for an interview with one of its hosts, Fareed Zakaria, as part of an hour-long program on “white nationalism.” I was reluctant. Programs of this kind don’t try to understand why people become “white nationalists.” They just dismiss them as “racists,” “haters,” and “white supremacists.”

I explained this to executive producer Liza McGuirk, who wrote back on April 22:

I understand your concern—that somehow your words may be manipulated to illustrate a point of view. I offer my assurances that we will not do that, and I am comfortable putting that in writing because it is anathema to me, and I am responsible for the editing of the project. . . . .

We are attempting to do a serious treatment of White Nationalism, and to explore many questions that surround race at this point in time.

Obviously there is no shortage of people who will come on CNN and say things that will shock the audience. We are not seeking an interview with someone like that, but instead we wanted to speak with you, because you’ve spent years writing about these issues, and making detailed arguments to illustrate your theses. . . .

It is precisely because I do NOT want to distort your point of view, by using video shot at another time, and perhaps not cut properly—that I think it is important that you sit down with Fareed Zakaria for an interview. . . .

I hope that we can find a way to conduct this interview—we are genuinely interested in hearing your point of view, and I would look forward to discussing further if you are willing.

I reluctantly agreed to the interview, writing to Miss McGuirk: “Against my own nature, I grow cynical. Still, I will permit myself to hope that the word ‘hate’ will not be in the title of your program and that my interview will not be sandwiched between footage of goose-steppers and cross-burners.”

On May 3, I flew to New York. Mr. Zakaria wasted a lot of time claiming that race does not exist and that even if it does, as a sub-continental Indian he’s white, too. Again, I said I hoped the word “hate” would not be in the title, but Mr. Zakaria and Miss McGuirk said others would choose the title.

A few days after the interview, I found an op-ed article at the CNN website on “hate groups” that was a perfect example of CNN blindness, and called it to Miss McGuirk’s attention: “Perhaps you have seen this article, which CNN published last Saturday. It is written by a self-styled expert on people like me. It is so fundamentally wrong that I can’t decide whether the author’s problem is stupidity, ignorance, or outright malice. I hope your team will do better.”

Her reply: “This is an op-ed—an opinion piece. CNN has an op-ed page that prints all kinds of opinions—from all kinds of folks—every day. It doesn’t have anything to do with how we do our jobs.”

I wrote to say that if CNN really “prints all kinds of opinions from all kinds of folks,” CNN should print my opinion. Miss McGuirk promptly sent me the email address of the op-ed editor, Richard Galant. It took a little pestering, but Mr. Galant sent me CNN’s guidelines for op-eds, and that same day, May 12, I sent him a piece that matched his guidelines perfectly.

And then I waited. Mr. Galant ignored my queries, so I wrote to Miss McGuirka: “I cannot imagine that he [Mr. Galant] would be so rude as to ignore me, but he is no doubt a busy man and might benefit from a nudge from a colleague.” Miss McGuirk explained to me that Mr. Galant was, indeed, a busy man, adding “We will be back to you within two weeks.”

Nearly a month later I still had no reply so I sent her this: “You wrote to me in an earlier message that ‘CNN has an op-ed page that prints all kinds of opinions—from all kinds of folks—every day.’ It appears you were wrong.” The next day, Miss McGuirk wrote to say that “Richard has passed on your submission.” Mr. Galant—despite his promising name—had ignored me for 40 days and obviously had no intention of ever telling me that he had “passed” on my article.

CNN’s investigation of white nationalism will air on June 30, according to a note I received from Miss McGuirk:

The program is scheduled to run this Sunday night at 8PM ET—and Fareed will also feature part of your interview on his program at 10AM and 1PM ET. One caveat—when news breaks, CNN will sometimes postpone the air time. If that occurs, I will let you know the next air time.

Miss McGuirk did not mention that the title of CNN’s hour-long, even-handed, “serious treatment of White Nationalism” is called “State of Hate: The Explosion of White Supremacy.” This somehow undercut her cheerful assurance: “I believe you will feel your views are presented fairly and thoroughly.”

Liza McGuirk has been unfailingly prompt, professional, and polite. I cannot bring myself to doubt her sincerity. She edited the program, and maybe it deserves a different title. I will leave it to others to decide.

In the meantime, here is the op-ed that “all-kinds-of-opinions-from-all-kinds-of-folks-every-day” CNN could not stomach.

* * *

“Why is White Nationalism on the Rise?”

By Jared Taylor

On May 4, CNN published an article by David Neiwert called “Hate groups are recruiting our young people into a toxic belief system.” This belief system is “white nationalism,” which Mr. Neiwert warns is growing at an alarming rate: “[W]e’re talking in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of new young white nationalists being born online right now.”

Why is white nationalism, which Mr. Neiwert dismisses as “hateful” and “toxic,” so attractive? Because it is based on the conviction that whites—like every other racial group in America and the world—have legitimate group interests. The most obvious of these is not to be reduced to a minority where they have traditionally been the majority.

From its founding and until immigration policy changed in 1965, Americans took it for granted that whites would always be the majority. They were 85 percent of the population in 1960, but are now projected, largely through immigration, to become a minority by 2045.

Whites were never asked if this was what they wanted. White nationalists do not want to become a minority, and the burden is on people like Mr. Neiwert to explain why they are wrong.

Is it wrong for Japanese to want to remain a majority in Japan? Or Mexicans in Mexico? Or Turks in Turkey? Israel is an explicitly Jewish state, and virtually all Americans recognize its right to remain Jewish. White nationalists believe that whites—whether in the United States or Europe—have the same right.

It is not “hatred” for whites to want to live in a society shaped by the European values and texture of life handed down by their ancestors. Mass immigration changes a country—often radically—and whites have the absolute right to prefer societies that are faithful to their ancestral values. This is an entirely normal, healthy sentiment that Mr. Neiwert would surely not find “hateful” if expressed by non-whites.

Would Mr. Neiwert be happy if the whole world were changing as the United States or Europe is? Should populations migrate and mix everywhere, reducing every local majority to a minority? That would crush every distinct culture and civilization everywhere. Why is that acceptable only for white countries?

“White nationalists” recognize that hypnotic slogans do not make “diversity” a strength. It is a source of tension and conflict. At its worst, it means race riots and prison riots. Every day, it means discrimination lawsuits, resentment, accusations of insensitivity, and bitterness over whether the Oscars or Harvard or boardrooms or tech jobs or neighborhoods or the police force have the right racial mix.

Even if diversity were a strength, why should whites “celebrate” it when it always means a decline in their numbers and influence? No healthy people wants to give up its place in society and march into oblivion.

White nationalism is also the inevitable reaction to an increasingly harsh double standard: Whites must always be “sensitive” to others, even if others hold them in contempt.

In 2018, the New York Times appointed a 31-year-old immigrant from Korea, Sarah Jeong, to its editorial board. Miss Jeong had tweeted such things as “White men are bullshit,” “#CancelWhitePeople,” and “White people have stopped breeding. you’ll all go extinct soon. That was my plan all along.” No white person who said anything remotely like this about non-whites could be a janitor at the Times.

Headlines such as these show contempt for whites: “To the White Men Running to Be the Democratic Presidential Candidate: Can You Not?” “Step aside white men. It’s time for women of color to lead.” “Should a White Man Be the Face of the Democratic Party in 2020?” Television host Trevor Noah put the same question to Bernie Sanders: “Isn’t this a time for your guys to step aside?”

In the 1960s, the national goal was to overcome racism and achieve color-blindness. Now, whites—but only whites—learn that, as Psychology Today explains, “Colorblind ideology is a form of racism.” When whites left transitioning neighborhoods, it was called “white flight” and was “racist.” When they go back to those neighborhoods, it is “gentrification,” which is also “racist.” It’s healthy for blacks or Asians or Hispanics to have a firm racial identity; for whites, it’s “Nazism.”

When blacks and Hispanics do not do as well as whites, it’s the fault of entrenched white supremacy. But if America is a white supremacist country, why do East Asians do so much better than whites?

All this—certainly not Donald Trump—explains the rise of white nationalism.

It is true that some people with nationalist ideas have committed horrific murderous acts. Why? Because when people have a voice, they speak. When they are hated, silenced, and their deeply felt values driven underground by self-righteous media censors, they may act in unspeakable ways.

There are democratic solutions to these problems. Censorship and demonization will make them worse.

Jared Taylor is the editor of American Renaissance. He will appear in a forthcoming CNN program on white nationalism to be hosted by Fareed Zakaria.

UPDATE: An uncut audio recording of the full Taylor/Zakaria interview is now available on YouTube:

(Republished from American Renaissance by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. I wish JT was President.

  2. Why do you bother with these communists, they will never treat you fairly and want you dead? Our own papers/isp providers/apps that is the 0nly way if we’re serious. Any young activist should be getting those skills right now.

  3. Double standards abound when it comes to race, whites can’t be called European-Americans yet they founded the country and built it, and every other ethnic group can be addressed by the most minute descriptions. All the while, La Raza is perfectly acceptable, ditto with the equally racist BLM. White children are discriminated against in admissions, see the Ivy Leagues and UCLA/Cal just for a start. Yet, to speak up is racist? Silence means extinction.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Richard B
    , @Moi
    , @Moi
  4. Cyrano says:

    Western politicians see their native population as the main threat to their grip on power. It’s a carry-over perception from the cold war. Back then, they thought that their native population is the one that has a “revolutionary potential” – to replace them with some kind of socialist government.

    That’s why the elites invented the multiculturalism fiasco – to show their own “socialist potential” – and to eliminate the need for a full socialist takeover. As it turned out, multiculturalism is just another tool of oppression against the working class in the west. And it was totally unnecessary.

    The western population is sufficiently brainwashed by the decades lasting propaganda that they don’t want socialism. But the damage is already done, and continuous to be done. As is often the case for the creators of propaganda, instead of completely discarding a failed one, they find a new uses for a failed propaganda project.

    At present, multiculturalism is used in order to establish the “humanist credentials” of the west – so they can continue to ravage the third world countries with unnecessary wars, deflecting the blame for war crimes with the excuse that multiculturalism provides – that they are already a well-established humanitarians and therefore they could not possibly be accused of war crimes.

    Either way – it’s a disaster, the working class in the west has to pay the price for misadventures of their governments by being forced to accept the hordes from the 3rd world in order to prove that the main objective of the west is spreading democracy – outwardly and inwardly – by the invaders, who were given that role without asking for it.

    The degenerates who invented multiculturalism don’t realize that if the white working class is replaceable – so are they – the white degenerate elites. Or do they think that when the 3rd world minorities become majority – they will keep the while elites untouched because of gratitude for past favors rendered?

    Anybody can be elite, it doesn’t take any special skills and people have hard time accepting being ruled by their own kind, let alone letting someone from different race to rule over them, because they might not yet be proficient in the ways of democracy. No wonder the west is going down with degenerates like that. If the white working class is expendable, their elites are even more so.

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @Nosquat Loquat
  5. CNN proves to be typical MSM, and thus basically dishonest and spreading “fake news”. Its slogans are as predictable as those in Stalin’s Russia or Mao’s China :
    “Race is a social construct”, “Diversity is Strength”, “White Supremacism”, “Hate” etc. etc. Their dishonesty became apparent right in the beginning by insisting on a recorded interview instead of live. They will select the worst parts and omit the best.
    Why wasting your time on appearing on such media? They lost the trust of the public anyway :

    “…Only 6 percent of people say they have a great deal of confidence in the press, about the same level of trust Americans have in Congress, according to a new survey released on Sunday.

    The study mirrors past reports that found the public’s trust in mass media has reached historic lows, according to data gathered by the Media Insight Project, a partnership between The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and the American Press Institute. The report found faith in the press was just slightly higher than the 4 percent of people who said they trusted Congress…”

    Source : Huffpost, 04/18/2016, Hardly Anyone Trusts The Media Anymore.

    By the way, the absolute majority of the people of the Indian sub-continent are not “white” as Fareed Zakaria claims, they are a stabilized mix of Caucasoids and Australoids, hence their dark skin color and often wavy hair in combination with more or less Caucasian facial features.

    • Agree: PeterMX
  6. Well said as ever. I would tune in to see how CNN handled your interview but I refuse to boost their ratings by even a tiny fraction of a percentage point.

  7. Jared Taylor has done some good work through the years, but…

    The attitude displayed by this article has, unfortunately, been Taylor’s problem all along. He still obviously retains the utterly mistaken belief that the left can be reasoned with, cajoled, made to see the error of their ways, that sweet reason and sound logic supported by real-world facts can be successfully employed to swing them over to our side, away from their vicious attacks against us. Likewise, when giving speeches, Taylor’s whole demeanor cries out ‘Mr. Nice Guy’.

    But that’s an approach for losers, for those who want to go nobly unto their demise, looking the commissar unflinchingly in the eye as she fires a bullet into your brain. It’s long past time that Taylor and those like him fully understand that we are in an existential war. In war there is no Mr. Nice Guy. Your job, the one and only goal that you and your side must have, is to totally eradicate the enemy by almost any means necessary, with the least damage to your cohorts. If you agree ahead of time to place certain restrictions on the way you wage war, then make sure those restrictions don’t put you at disadvantage when fighting the enemy. Otherwise, all bets are off.

    Taylor should have known better from the outset. Don’t fraternize with the enemy. Don’t talk with the enemy. Don’t believe the enemy. And make sure you’ve learned enemy identification so that you don’t mistakenly wander into their camp. It should have been crystal clear from the outset that CNN was enemy territory, that everything they said was a lie, and that putting yourself in their hands was simply asking for trouble.

    The only way forward is for whites to be racist. The first step out of this madness is for whites to accept racism and embrace it with pride, without shame. Racism is simply pattern recognition. Racism is realism. Every white should proclaim themselves a realist. They should also embrace hate, which is a good, clean, honest emotion. Hate is the sword you raise to protect those you love. With his already established platform, Taylor should be at the forefront of such a movement.

    Instead, he is just holding people back. The inference to be made by others about Taylor’s approach is that with patience and understanding, leftist insanity will die down, the pendulum will somehow swing back of its own accord, the storm will blow over. But that’s just living in fantasyland. Leftist ideology is progressive, it has no built-in limits. Leftists will never stop, they’ll just keep on coming like zombies. History demonstrates a well-worn path to the gulag, and this next time will be no exception.

    We see time and time again, that once started in any organization or society, leftism spreads like an inferno, consuming all in its path. The only way to stop it is total commitment to its destruction. Taylor should either admit all this and change his ways, or else step down completely from any kind of leadership and/or public position. It’s long past time to stop playing defense. The only thing now is to attack, until the enemy is utterly destroyed and there are no more leftists to contaminate the face of this planet.

  8. MattinLA says:

    I sure hope you independently videotaped your interview, so that you can correct the selective editing that is sure to happen. You should never trust CNN.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    , @Proud Pole
  9. When I see people like Taylor trying to deal reasonably with these people, I want to cringe.
    I feel embarrassment. These people are ruthless opportunists. They are the enemy. We should disassociate from them. We should rely on our own media such as it is rather than appealing to their sense of fairness. They have none. That is just an ugly fact we have to live with. Better to live with it than to beg for their attention

    • Replies: @Nehlen
  10. Revealing story. Thank you, Jared Taylor.

    Mark Weber once told me about how he was hoodwinked and betrayed after giving an interview to none other than George F. Will.

    Will deliberately misquoted and misrepresented Weber’s words and stated mission at the IHR. It was a journalistic hit. It now looks as if Taylor is getting similar treatment. This is typical.

    I also remember vividly how George Will tried to humiliate David Duke on TV and how George Will even gave Pat Buchanan the Nazi treatment when Buchanan ran in 1996. That ended my affection and respect for George Will.

    This kind of bias and treachery however is routinely dished-out by alleged media professionals at CNN and elsewhere. And it’s no accident.

    As I watched the first televised Democrat debate, I could really sense anti-white sentiment surfacing among Presidential wannabes Kamala Harris and Cory Booker. Their self-righteous fury inspired me to turn off the TV midway through the spectacle.

    Booker’s bilingual demagoguery will surely backfire. We are an English-speaking civilization and most Americans feel strongly about preserving English as our sole, primary language. This objective is not unreasonable. The same is true of controlling US borders and retaining America’s European-derived core.

    For these reasons, the POC juggernaut in this election cycle will probably self-destruct. What they’re selling the majority of Americans do not want to buy.

    But as Whites become a minority (and the usual suspects continue to demonize White advocacy) the fractures and divisions in our ‘diverse’ society will worsen.

    We are a very divided nation. But as cultural diversity grows, national cohesion will decline.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Mikhail
  11. I’ve watched you numerous times over the years on programs and you appear to be an absolute idiot. You try to answer the stupid questions they set you up for rather than attacking them with everything. Over the years I have tracked you and you are either a worker for one of the intelligence agencies or nothing more than a lightweight. You just happen to have quite a travel itinerary over time. I ran this by two former CIA workers I knew and they just laughed! You thought you could dance around the Jewish Question at Amren but the Jews came back and nailed you on social media.

    CNN has about 78% of Jews in all the up management including Jeff Zucker who is a Zionist and hater of whites. What did you expect? Did you really think you would get a fair shot? There are many in the so called “White Movements” who are nothing more frauds including your buddy Don Black who tried to run Iran-Contra stuff with the Feds. Your dismissal of the Jewish control of this country makes no sense if you are concerned about white genocide because who do you think is running this game plan….the Mennonites ( I’ll leave the stuff about your wife out of this discussion)?

    There are many on this site who are easily fooled but I am not. I have enough contacts in these agencies to know that many of you are not who you say you are. It’s like the Charlotte fiasco that was played on television for the world to see. The FBI infiltrated the Klan over 35 years ago. The entire event was a staged false flag with stupid whites to fan the flames of the government’s game plan.

  12. Alfa158 says:

    Mr. Taylor is a gentleman and prone to the altruistic sentiments that plague Whites. Consider that Miss McGuirk started out by by making the implausible claim that although she is executive producer, she has no influence on the even the title of her own production.
    It is entirely possible that she is another Lucy imploring Mr. Taylor to go ahead and kick the football because she won’t pull it away. Her role was to sweet talk him into walking into the abattoir.
    I could be wrong, but consider this rather telling bit of evidence: if she was genuinely what she presented herself to, be a fair, impartial seeker of truth and discourse why would she be working for a cesspool like CNN? And why would the denizens of such a pit retain someone like her?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
  13. As usual, Mr Taylor makes many good points and for the most part does so responsibly and intelligently. However, at some point his continuing naïveté regarding the ‘controlled’ media in this country begins to seem a bit studied.

  14. Well, that was all thoroughly predictable. Jared must have written these pieces – both the article and the op-ed – literally dozens of times. I’m sure he has a computer template where he just fills in the distinguishing details. Until the next time….

  15. Anon[301] • Disclaimer says:

    Only ever agree to go on live.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  16. Expecting a fair shake from the Clinton News Network is kind of naïve. If you’re lucky, the worst they’ll do is photoshop a red nose and a clown wig on you after the interview is taped.

  17. yeah i mean this stuff is an automatic no, and Taylor should know as much. it’s a hit piece, period.

    but also, after the CNN program runs, millions of people who have never heard of Jared Taylor or American Renaissance will go on the internet and try to find out more.

    this could be good for AmRen in the short run, but in the long run, i think it will be bad. because that will put AmRen on the democrat’s radar, and when Trump leaves office, whether it’s next year, or 4 years after that, AmRen will be one of the first sites deleted from the internet by the new democrat president.

    Jared Taylor will also be deplatformed by, well, every company. i don’t mean social media. i mean no more credit cards, bank accounts, insurance policies, and so forth. they don’t do business with “people like that”.

    • Replies: @Alden
  18. @Ari silver

    Expecting the media to be even-handed and reasonable brings to mind that old parable about the frog and the scorpion. It’s in their nature to sting you. They can’t help it.

    That said, this is an even-handed, reasonable editorial by Jared Taylor. I don’t see how anyone can read this and call it “hate,” but then it’s not in my nature to be irrational and anti-intellectual.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  19. Parfois1 says:

    Why do you bother with these communists

    Why do I bother trying to educate people about the simple facts of life and hoping to raise their level of understanding on those things that affect their existence and future, so that they can make the choices that further their interests as persons and citizens, their families and nations?

    It is the civic duty, as members of a society, that imposes on Jared Taylor and all of us the moral obligation to discharge that duty to the best of one’s ability. The white race is ever increasingly becoming a minority on our planet, not only because of other races higher fertility, but also because the ruling elites of the the white nations have betrayed their peoples through policies to bring about the demise of white race.

    Why do they do it? Because the political system of Capitalism (based on greed and rigged competition) demands that the worker be set against another worker to lower wages, hence immigration; that more profit be extracted from lower wage countries, hence relocation of industries and investments and globalization; that, in order to remain in power as elites, it serves their interests to encourage “diversity” to set particular groups (based on race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, etc) against others to distract people from the most oppressive injustice (economic and political inequality) against the working class ruled by a tiny minority of plutocrats and their political stooges merged in Jewish dominated governments and institutions.

    The above factors are only a sample of the causes of the demise of the white race because they diminish its political, economic and cultural share in the national life. The demographics alone point to that demise and one should ask why the whites have the lowest birthrate of all races: brakedown of families (feminism) and low wages are the answer, both caused by Capitalism’s thirst for profit.

  20. ikki says:

    Trusting very fake media and not insisting on supreme editorian cotrol … my oh my…
    Then again they would never sign a document granting you the ultimate power at the risk of a 1 billion dollar compensation, so kinda pointless to be talking to very fake media in the first place.

  21. JT had better treatment in the media of the country of his youth:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Bliss
  22. awry says:
    @Ari silver

    If “white nationalists” try to have their own media/apps those will be crushed financially or even simply forced out of the non-darkweb part of internet as it was the case of Anglin. Sure, for a while they can lurk in the corners on their own sites, but if they become relevant in any way, and getting attention they are bound to be destroyed. And they are censored and banned from any online forum which has enough visitors to be relevant in any way.
    Own ISP providers? That’s not how the internet works. You cannot do anything short of building a new parallel internet, which is also impossible. You can use tor or post on 4chan etc. but normies won’t go there.

  23. Matthew says:

    CNN cannot publish it because it’s an excellent text. Too much common sense conflicts with their far-left ideology

    • Replies: @David
  24. So – you truly are patient and reasonable, Jared Taylor. Since your sufferings are mostly psychological, you might not have qualified as a martyr in the old days, but saintlike you behave, at least in my eyes. The righteous have to suffer a lot, says the Bible. – “Keep going!” (Jack Kerouac in The Dharma Bums). My best wishes.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  25. “the State of Hate”
    ———————————-
    I’ve always said that if you hate in a tasteful, caring, polite manner, you will find people very agreeable to your views,

  26. Jared is obviously the most naive, guileless old man on earth. Seriously, what is wrong with him? CNN, of all media, he though would give him a fair hearing? I’m getting fed up with this ineffectual dope.

    • Replies: @awry
  27. Is there somewhere that I can read up on what culture, traditions, customs and principles unite upmarket or just ordinary White Nationalists in contrast to other citizens and permanent residents? After my Irish and Catholic ancestors prudently assimilated with the dominant Protestant Anglo-Celtic culture in the mid 19th century I can’t see them as feeling drawn to the descendants of po whites who support draconian anti abortion legislation or treasure a version of Second Amendment rights which allows unstable young men to arm themselves with automatic or semi automatic weapons.

    • Troll: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @95Theses
    , @Alden
  28. awry says:
    @Honk World

    To be fair to him I don’t think he really expected that, he just played the fool. I hope he didn’t walk into a trap in the interview.

    • Replies: @Realist
  29. An4o4n says:

    Good article, however I thought it was terribly naive of Taylor to think he might get treated honestly by CNN or any other major media. Of course they will make you look bad, they will distort your views, they will edit your responses until you are transformed into the paradigm of a barking Nazi. I would advise anyone to stay away. Noam Chomsky has avoided them for decades out of distrust.

    The single biggest problem with coalescing white interests in this country is that the opposing interests own the media bullhorns and the internet. Here in the northeast US, any time it becomes publicly known that two or more people of white Euro descent plan to sit down over a coffee and discuss white issues, the papers start running front page articles with quotes from all the anti-white Gestapo groups to the tune of “We can’t have two white people getting together to discuss white issues, it’s white supremacy and there’s no room in this community for hatred!”

    Of course, it’s always okay for commentators on MSM to actually say “We need to kill all the white people!”

  30. JT makes some good points that are unfortunately heresy in our brave new world. I wouldn’t be surprised if that Dick Galant guy, after shrieking, lfting his skirt, and jumping on his desk, then ordered the doxxing of JT so the Left’s hate mobs (like ACORN in 2008 and AntiFa before and ever since) can hunt him down burn him at the stake.

    Seriously, this campaign against White Nationalists is little more than a modern day witch hunt, and it is increasingly going to the same place those went in the middle ages.

  31. conatus says:

    The Media are busy demonizing White people by expanding the definitions, the way ‘racism’ now means simply noticing race(only if you are White), now calling yourself a ‘White nationalist’ means you are a ‘White Ssupremacist’ and eventually a NAZI!
    Face it, In the USA it is not Okay to be White in public.
    The press routinely conflates any White oriented organizing with the idea of ‘supremacy’ thereby creating a pejorative image. Couldn’t some(probably most) of those organizations be ‘nationalist’ as in Black Nationalist’ or perhaps even ‘White activists?’ It is confusing as to why some groups are ‘activists’ and others are ‘supremacists?’ I say confusing because the media routinely conflates ‘White’ with ‘supremacist’ when, if it was any other group such as “La Raza”(the Race) , the media would choose the term ‘activist’ to describe the members?
    So groups like La Mecha, their student org. whose motto is this:”Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada”, which is often translated as “For the Race, everything, outside the Race, nothing.”
    Wow that sounds scary.But their activities are laudatory according to our narrators.
    But if any group has the temerity to label themselves ‘White nationalists’ that gets bumped up to ‘Supremacist’ The article gets more clicks in the ‘race down the brainstem’ but it doesn’t seem even handed in an Age of identity Politics.

    Harvard Law Professor Randall Kennedy, who, from a 1997 Atlantic article, ‘My Race Problem-and Ours.’ said this about Whites organizing as a race.
    “I find it difficult to accept that it is wrong for whites to mobilize themselves on a racial basis solely for purposes of white advancement but morally permissible for blacks to mobilize themselves on a racial basis solely for purposes of black advancement.”

    • Agree: 95Theses
  32. conatus says:

    The SPLC has been appointed by the Media as the arbiter of all things ‘supremacist’ ao this comment from City Journal is apt.

    A commenter at City Journal discussed the SPLC methodology.

    What the SPLC actually claims in their fundraising propaganda is that “hate incidents,” not actual “hate crimes” have increased since the Trump election, without proving a shred of verifiable evidence. Hate crimes are proven in courts of law, and not courts of public opinion.

    Instead, the company cites anonymous claims from the likes of “A Latina in Texas,” or “Middle School teacher, Iowa,” without identifying a single complainant by name.

    The SPLC claims to have 20,000 anecdotal reports, but not one is identified by name and nobody in the media is allowed to see a single claim. Furthermore, all three major SPLC”reports” on alleged increases of “hate incidents” since the 2016election contain the following disclaimers: “This study is not scientific as we did not include a random sampling of respondents.”

  33. Everybody on the right knows that interviews with the nose media always wind up being a farce, and that is why Mike Enoch refuses to do interviews.

    It’s a given that when a jew interviews a white advocate, the white advocate is going to be portrayed as Hollywood Hitler, mean and evil and rotten to the core. It doesn’t matter that Jared Taylor has an IQ of 150 and speaks many languages and is a kind and loving grandfather. The nose hates white advocates, Taylor is a white advocate, so Taylor is a white supreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemist.

    C’mon, we know the drill by now.

    It will never change.

    • Replies: @Wally
  34. imbroglio says:

    I expect Jared will be used badly by CNN. If so, it will partly be his own doing because of a conflation in his own mind that he should clarify when speaking or writing publicly.

    “It is not “hatred” for whites to want to live in a society shaped by the European values and texture of life handed down by their ancestors.”

    If Jared defines whites biologically (persons of European descent, in which case he’d need to include Ashkenazi Jews,) he’d need to exclude non-whites who not only embrace European values but treasure them. Or vice versa. To attribute values exclusively to DNA is like attributing white supremacy to white nationalism. You don’t get to have it both ways.

  35. Why did you, Mr. Taylor, fail to carry on your reasonable correspondence with Me Mc Guirk after she told you someone else would choose the title? Why not say ” Dear Liza, You have me for your program on one further condition. Just get someone with the authoeity to assure me about the contents to promise that the title will not contain the word ‘hate’ or X or Y without my express consent”?

  36. ThereisaGod says: • Website

    CNN = shameless lying scum

    … like the BBC. A friend of mine, a thoroughly decent and honest man who happens to feel compelled to tell the truth regarding controversial matters, was treated in exactly this same despicable manner by terribly nice, breathless, reassuring BBC producers. He, like Jared, agreed to take part against his better judgement. The programme concerned went to great (and despicable) lengths to discredit him.

    The only good thing is that eventually these creeps reveal their own corrupt nature in an undeniable way…. to those who give a damn.

  37. @Jefferson Temple

    But they calculate ratings by surveys, not by digital means, don’t they? In which case, feel free to watch, but never admit to watching.

  38. @Monotonous Languor

    I think you correct – enough of the pussy-footing around

  39. TTSSYF says:
    @niteranger

    I don’t think he’s an idiot at all — quite the contrary. He is attempting to persuade those whites who may be persuadable. However, it may be, as Monotonous Languor says, a lost cause, with all-out warfare our only option. But it may be that it’s still a little too early for that; i.e., it can happen openly only when things become so bad that it’s inescapable. Even now, I tread lightly with those who basically are on my side of the political spectrum when talking about the interests of white people…they (and I) are too fearful of being labeled racist.

    • Replies: @niteranger
  40. What’s left of the white race will have the last laugh when things start to break down under non white control and there’s no one smart enough to fit it.
    The word ‘maintenance’ has no meaning in many cultures as they’re too stupid to grasp the concept. It has to do with IQ, and the minority soon to be the majority is largely of the low IQ variety. Just look at how well South Africa has done since the black majority took over.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @anonymous
  41. @MattinLA

    Or do what Tommy Robinson apparently did – covertly record off camera meetings and try to get the interviewer or production staff to implicate themselves by discussing taboo subjects.

  42. Fared Zakaria is a South Asian Foreigner who does not belong in OUR AMERICA….

    Not even one Hindu LEGAL IMMIGRANT should have been allowed into OUR AMERICA post-Oct 1965…..

    Hindu LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and their US Born GENELINE are a highly RACIALIZED Democratic Party Voting Bloc looking forward to vote the Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority into a White Racial Minority within the borders of America on Nov 3 2020….when they pull the lever in the voting booth for the highly racialized HINDU-JAMAICAN KAMALA HARRIS FOR POTUS…

  43. CNN and the Democratic Party want to Demographically MURDER!!!!!! the Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority…

    And this very obvious fact was stated openly…explicitly by every Democratic Party POTUS CANDIDATE this past week during the two Democratic Party POTUS Debates……

    The Democratic Party is openly the Party of NONWHITE FOREIGN INTERFERENCE IN US ELECTIONS……..

    • Replies: @nagraja
  44. Truth3 says:

    CNN… the Jewish takeover of Ted Turner’s creation began right from the get-go, with (((Reinhardt))) deciding who CNN would hire… it’s been a full-on Jewish organization long before (((Jeff Zucker))) took total control.

    By their history, (((Sophists))) prove over and over again that false premises and false promises are effective tools in hoodwinking the Jew-Unwise Goyim.

  45. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Before interacting with this “Wizard of Oz” character, be aware that the same person also appears to have posted as “Anon[436].” See under Mr. Derbyshire’s February 15, 2019, article comment ## 28, 42, 43, 44, 68, 122. He/she/they often draw other commenters in with questions and requests like this that are seldom resolved to his/her/their satisfaction.

    Among this website’s oddest, sophisticatedly trollish commenters.

  46. Anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:

    In the US, elites are united but the people are divided.

    Elites win.

    https://geopolitics.co/2019/06/29/the-civil-war-now-in-america/

    • Agree: Agent76
  47. @Monotonous Languor

    Dear “Monotonous Languor”: Hope you feel better now that you’ve got that off your chest. It is simply not true that people don’t change or that specifically leftist people never change. Secondly, it is obvious that in America and Europe today the majority of white people are more inclined to agree with CNN than with Jared Taylor; next year Kamala Harris might very well be elected president. You want to fight, fight, fight? Well, go ahead. Who’s stopping you? Will you kill all the leftist whites until you’re in a majority? You write that Mr. Taylor “should step down completely,” and then what? If you can lead whites to the promised land, why aren’t you doing so? How is Mr. Taylor’s work interfering with yours?

  48. Fareed Zakaria is an elitist and a globalist and a smart assed prick and Putin made an ass out of him at a conference in Moscow a couple of years ago where Zakaria thought he could put Putin down and Putin turn the tables and cut Zakaria a new asshole, and it was a pleasure to watch.

  49. Half-Jap says:

    I’m just right here, watching the US and Europe burn.

  50. Realist says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    For quite sometime I posted comments on Taylor’s web site, but with no explanation I was banned. The demeanor of my comments never changed, so I assume I was banned to lower the enthusiasm for White nationalism and to appease his detractors. Taylor is too soft…no loss to me.

  51. Republic says:
    @niteranger

    You thought you could dance around the Jewish Question at Amren but the Jews came back and nailed you on social media.

    You are right about this point:

    His fatal flaw is not to address the Jewish Question.

    How can a so called White Nationalist leader say that “Jews are fine by me and look white to me”?

    And “Jews have a valuable role in the work of American Renaissance”

    “I don’t think that Jewish Americans or a European Jew cannot be a fully
    Committed man of the West who wishes our race well and our civilization to survive.”

    (The Jews are committed to destroying the White race).

    Wow what sort of fake White Nationalist leader says such things?

    There hasn’t been a really truly white nationalist leader in the US
    Since the death in 2002 of Dr William Luther Pierce, all the
    Rest have been more or less, controlled opposition

    • Replies: @mark green
    , @Alden
  52. Agent76 says:

    Aug 20, 2011 Law without Government: Conflict Resolution in a Free Society

    This is part 2 of my video series exploring a society where law is provided not by government, but by competing voluntary institutions.

    May 1, 2015 How History Becomes Propaganda

  53. anarchyst says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Jared Taylor is “controlled opposition” and has been co-opted by jewish interests. He refuses to name “the elephant in the room” as his “toast is buttered” by zionist jewish interests.

    • Replies: @2stateshmustate
    , @Anon
  54. Nehlen says:
    @Achilles Wannabe

    Taylor is no less a ruthless opportunist…granting an interview to CNN is peak boomerism.

  55. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    How very interesting. Even more interesting if you would say something of substance and even tell us who you are behind that “anonymous [340]” veil.

    You wouldn’t I suppose have an answer to the interesting question raised?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  56. Wally says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Everybody here is absolutely ignoring ‘the elephant in the room’.

    It is the false and impossible claims within the “holocaust” narrative which enable the current attacks on Euro-whites and their culture.

    Being called a ‘Nazi” or “another Hitler” only works IF the ridiculous ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are true, which they certainly are not, as has been easily demonstrated by Revisionist research.

    The assault upon Euro-whites will never stop, never change until The Big Lie is utterly rejected.
    You’re all just spinning your wheels until you face that fact.
    Get off your knees.

    Information equals freedom and peace.

    The ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    • Agree: Nehlen
  57. Realist says:
    @awry

    To be fair to him I don’t think he really expected that, he just played the fool.

    Like Trump is against wars and for a border wall????

  58. @TTSSYF

    You seem to have missed the point. If he’s not who he says he is…then he is just making whites look bad and is a set up for the government’s and the Left’s little game. You CAN’T discuss anything with the idiots on the Left so you must meet them head on……with an attack.

    Attack them with their own data. For instance, attack the rich black athletes. Where do they live? They live in gated communities with white people! Why? And so forth! Instead he appears as chump who just wants to be left alone in his magic white world. What’s the rate of Black men raping white women as compared to the other way around? You must put them on the defensive. Why is okay for Spike Lee to say blacks should not date or marry whites but not okay for whites to say that!

    He allows the Jews to run the game. They are the major source for all of this hate. They ganged bang him off social media. He has allowed SPLC to destroy him. They are nothing but front for making money for the Jews. SPLC has been accused of sexual harassment, lack of diversity, and racism by former employers. Why doesn’t he tell CNN we are being black listed by a group that has been charged with all of these things.

    He appears to be a bumbling idiot…and perhaps a useful one for whom?

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @Wally
  59. KenH says:

    Even though CNN always acts in bad faith towards pro-white individuals and groups at least they invited Jared Taylor for a segment in their hit piece on whites who don’t hate themselves. FOX, the so called conservative network, never has any pro-whites on although they did have Matt Hale on in the late 90’s to shout him down. Then O’Reilly had David Duke on in the mid 2000’s to shout him down. Now pro-whites just get the silent treatment form the “fair and balanced” network.

    And CNN’s “special” will be nothing more than a hatchet job and anti-pro white propaganda instead of a dispassionate and fair treatment of the growing number of whites who subscribe to pro-white beliefs.

    They’ll probably have an interview with a long faced, partisan leftist FBI agent or two who will inform the interviewer (and viewing audience) that they need “tools” to combat “toxic” belief systems like white nationalism. The implication being that somehow pro-white/white identitarian/white nationalist speech and beliefs are outside first amendment protections or if they’re then it should be made so since the sensibilities of non-whites are much more important then the civil rights of pro-whites.

  60. This started out promising and interesting and then this,

    “Whites were never asked if this was what they wanted. White nationalists do not want to become a minority, and the burden is on people like Mr. Neiwert to explain why they are wrong.”

    Uhhhh, I excuse me asking permission is not something one does, unless one is an immigrant. And given that it’s the majority that has empowered the worst of immigration, that position is false. They did ask and the majority said invited them in and has continued to do so in droves.

    I would further note that the “one drop rule” as an attempt to maintain purity has now become a messy brightline. And it’s because now one drop pluss want in as whites and whites are too happy to consider them whites depending on the drop — anything to topsy turvy the overwrought fears about blacks.

    Having minced up the economy weeding out middle class white that peculiar middle that maintains some normative standard and chilling the upward mobility of b y other strange choices – the impact in reproduction is eating away at the white population.

    I still think the country is largely white but it’s increasingly clear that a lot of whites as they experience the closing tiers have accepted that whiteness alone is simply an effective case for national identity.

    ————————————————-

    This is the shade of the argument that poor and middle class whites hated slavery because it undermined them in every way but fought and died to maintain it anyway.

  61. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump family is a member of criminal Jewish mafia where should be arrested. Just look at the following photo. The mafia at the center of the world. DESTROY THEM ALL.

  62. To the author’s credit, he does not attempt advance, encourage or support any manner of forced “white nationalist” agenda. But to my knowledge nothing is stopping whites from living together as a community if they choose.

  63. Fareed Zakaria

    You do not belong in OUR AMERICA……You are a South Asian Foreigner….You are not an American………GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!

  64. Fareed Zakaria is just an imported brown parrot.

    CNN may as well label President Calvin Coolidge a ‘white supremacist’ for signing the Immigration Act of 1924 that was designed to maintain America’s largely Northern European racial composition.

    As for Taylor it is sheer folly to continue ignoring the role of the Tribe in nation-wrecking. The pattern is well documented across the English-speaking world.

  65. @Monotonous Languor

    You’re wrong. JT knows all that, but he tries to “spread the word” as far as possible. He knows he has zero chance of “converting” lunatics & rotten enemies, but also knows, perhaps more than we all put together, that most white Americans are clueless about these things (black on white crime & dysfunction etc.), so he has accomplished much even if he had caused a minuscle part of clueless bozos to start thinking & (re)acting in a more race realist white advocate ways.

    Then- what do you think he can do?

    Start a “race revolution”? Root for some kind of white ethno-state? At this point of history, that would be:

    a) suicidal adventure, because huge majority of white people are against it (I won’t even mention non-whites)

    b) basically, an act of terrorism which any structure can easily crush with deadly force

    c) presenting himself as an idiot out of touch with reality, similar to clowns like David Duke etc.

    He is doing the best & most which can be done, i.e. waging culture war against all odds. It is not his fault that anti-white policy is funded by George Soros, while Koch brothers & Gates are not even indifferent, but are plain enemies of Euro-American identity.

    Jared Taylor is, in limited & very circumscribed conditions doing what Voltaire, Diderot, Chernyshevsky, Belinsky… had been doing for their peoples when the time was not ripe enough.

    Men must endure their going hence, even as their coming hither: Ripeness is all.

    • Agree: TTSSYF, Rogue, Alden
  66. @Monotonous Languor

    This is terrible advice. Obviously it is extremely unlikely that CNN will ever give Taylor a fair hearing, but that doesn’t mean there’s nothing to be gained by going on CNN. When MSM is demonizing you, you are doing better than when they are flat-out ignoring you (especially with historically low trust in media). You are getting your name out there and planting a seed in people’s minds.

    Besides, Taylor’s approach has been *successful* for the last few years. White nationalism/advocacy/whatever you want to call it wasn’t even on the public map just a few years ago. Now the number of people disenchanted with multiculturalism and leftism is growing, and the number thus interested in white advocacy is also growing. Trust in traditional media has plummeted, and their audience is dying off. More and more of the population are free agents looking for a new political home. Taylor needs to keep doing what he’s doing, he presents a far more attractive image for disenfranchised normies than that presented by your apocalyptic rhetoric.

    This is a long game– 200 million people aren’t going to wake up overnight.

  67. dvorak says:

    There’s a word for someone as gullible as Taylor … oh yes, ‘Zioboomer’.

  68. I respect Jared Taylor immensely, but wish here that he had followed his original instincts and declined to be interviewed by CNN. What happened to Steve King in the New York Times should be a lesson to everyone; there is absolutely no way that anyone with any identitarian or white ethno-nationalist views is ever going to get a chance to present a fair exposition of his point of view. Politely decline all requests for interviews from mainstreat media.

  69. If you don’t name the jew, you are only spinning your wheels and making noise.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  70. @niteranger

    If you’re talking about the incident where the Klan had a shootout with some Communist demonstrators back in 1979, that took place in Greensboro, not Charlotte.

  71. Lithium_6 says:

    Zakaria’s claim to be ‘white’ is hilarious.

    @Franklin Ryckaert

    By the way, the absolute majority of the people of the Indian sub-continent are not “white” as Fareed Zakaria claims, they are a stabilized mix of Caucasoids and Australoids –

    Quite, and Zakaria looks like a light skinned Australian Aboriginal.

  72. Sean says:

    It is true that some people with nationalist ideas have committed horrific murderous acts. Why? Because when people have a voice, they speak. When they are hated, silenced, and their deeply felt values driven underground by self-righteous media censors, they may act in unspeakable ways

    I think this is very wide of the mark, and it would entail accepting the excuses of blacks for their young mens’ violent criminality to think there was anything in the cultural rejection and media animadversion theory of white violence. Dylan Roof has a schizophrenia-spectrum disorder. James Alex Fields Jr, was reportedly prescribed an antipsychotic after being diagnosed with something close to schizophrenia in high school. Roof and Fields were completely isolated from any political movement, Field talked to no one but his mother, both were very keen on video games.

    Adam Lanza was a serious gamer with an online presence but like the aforementioned no had zero friends, Unfortunately schizophrenia , as Lanza’s father now says he now believes Lanza had, is commonly diagnosed as Asperger syndrome (though there are early development signs that differentiate them) because who wants to hear they are parent of a schizophrenic child,

    Roof listened to opera (which is used to drive young people away) . These are young men happiest being by themself, none of them had girlfriends, and they dislike their own mothers. I think it is clear Fields chose interests that separates him from everyone he came into contact with, and being a self avowed neo Nazi certainly fits the bill.

  73. Jared Taylor is a treasure. But to show how perverse is the controlled media’s hold on forming opinions, the following might be illustrative.

    Colin Flaherty recently met with Jared. Anyone who isn’t familiar with Colin Flaherty should visit his channel at minds.com/colinflaherty or whitegirlbleedalot.com where Colin documents the daily carnage blacks wreak on Americans.

    In a recent post, Colin explains why it took him years to meet Jared, and states that he was reluctant because he was told that Jared was a “Nazi”. And Colin spent a career working in the media, so he knows how things work.

    It’s worthwhile to check out Colin’s channels, even though Colin would likely believe that Ron Unz is a Nazi, too.

  74. @EliteCommInc.

    ‘…But to my knowledge nothing is stopping whites from living together as a community if they choose…’

    Ah…discrimination in housing’s illegal, son. As to going off into the woods, read between the lines in this Wikipedia entry on the attempt of the Aryan Nations to do just that:

    ‘…From the 1970s until 2001, the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations had its headquarters in a 20-acre (8.1 ha) compound in Kootenai County near Hayden Lake. In September 2000, the Southern Poverty Law Center won a $6.3 million judgment against the Aryan Nations from an Idaho jury, who awarded punitive and compensatory damages to Victoria Keenan and her son, Jason, who were attacked by Aryan Nations guards in 1999.[9] Bullets struck the Keenans’ car several times, then the car crashed and an Aryan member held the Keenans at gunpoint.[10] As a result of the judgment, Richard Butler turned the compound over to the Keenans, who then sold the property to a philanthropist who subsequently donated it to North Idaho College, which designated the land as a “peace park”.[11][12]…

    No, whites cannot live together as a community if they choose.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  75. @EliteCommInc.

    Just try to resist a move by a non-white into your white community on racial grounds (e.g., restrictive racial covenants). You’ll find the full force of government turned against you. What whites do, of course, when possible, is keep non-whites out via high home prices and zoning that keep apartment buildings from being built.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  76. @Cranberries

    William Pierce was actually on 60 minutes, even though he was being interviewed by a Jew. Although they tried their best, 60 minutes could not edit the tape in any way to show that Pierce was a “Nazi”. Other than to claim Pierce had something to do with OKC bombing.

    BTW, for those who don’t know that OKC was a false flag, search for General Benton Partin

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/04/19/oklahoma-city-bombing-22-years/

    https://archive.org/details/Dr.WilliamPierceInterviewedOnCBS60MinutesIn1996

  77. TTSSYF says:
    @niteranger

    I don’t think I missed the point, and I don’t think he makes whites look bad. I have listened to just about all of his podcasts and speeches, as well as debates, and he is not afraid to attack the anti-white mob with their own data. He is, in my opinion, merely one weapon in the arsenal against this insanity, and one that can serve as a respectable bridge for whites who see the writing on the wall but are afraid to speak openly about it for fear of being assailed as racists, losing their jobs, and becoming social pariahs. The average white person does not have the verbal skills to meet the onslaught of attacks that inevitably would come from all sides if they spoke out even timidly and in the most reasonable and rational way.

    Nothing and no one is perfect. I think Taylor is one of several figures playing a key role in this transitional time period before what is likely to be open confrontation. There are all sorts of roles one can play in a war if one is not temperamentally suited for hand-to-hand combat.

  78. TTSSYF says:
    @Cranberries

    Agree. This is what I was attempting to say in my response to niteranger.

  79. TTSSYF says:
    @Colin Wright

    But they can choose to not breed with non-whites — at least, for now. And yet, I see more and more black/white couples with mixed-race children every time I am out in public. Whites may eventually be outnumbered due to immigration and global population growth in Africa and Third World, but we have only ourselves to blame for hastening it with voluntary miscegenation. I have nothing but contempt for Heidi Klum, who threw away her beautiful genes in a marriage with a coal-black man that didn’t even last but produced the only children she will have.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  80. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

    White supremacism has been a tool of those who seek to subvert Christianity. Any greatness of Europe and the West is due to Christianity and to think otherwise is an abominable blasphemy. Had Christianity taken root in the heart of Africa or India rather than Europe and the West we would have had a flourishing of Africa and India for the past 1500 years and Europe and the West would still be barbarian.

    Presumably Taylor is a heathen who abandoned the Christian faith of his youth (albeit a heretical Protestant sect and no the True Church). His “partner” of 30 years has been Evelyn Rich whom he has two children with. Rich got her Ph.D. from Boston University with her dissertation on the Ku Klux Klan. The SPLC, strangely enough, has praised racist Taylor for not being an anti-Semite.

  81. Woj says:

    I’m sorry, I can’t comprehend how someone so entrenched in White interests could ever be so believe CNN wouldn’t first lie to them and then do what they always do. It’s not like this hasn’t already happened to other people, so why would anyone fall for it?

    After everything they’ve been pumping out, after seeing the constant globohomo anti-White propaganda, I can’t see any rational person believing CNN would fairly portray a pro-White position, especially in a pre-recorded piece.

  82. renfro says:
    @mark green

    Presidential wannabes Kamala Harris and Cory Booker. Their self-righteous fury inspired me to turn off the TV midway through the spectacle

    Agree. Listening to those two it is clear their only political interest is in somehow ‘avenging’ any slights they think they suffered.
    They are only about their personal blackness.
    The Dems will lose again if ‘victims of the evil whites’ is their drawing card.

    • Agree: mark green
  83. Jared Taylor is a force for good & he’s doing the best he can in these impossible times. I disagree with him on only one point, his accent on high IQ which, although he had clearly stated his position, somehow subliminally & contradictorily elevates Asian position over white- which is neither true nor would I care even if it were true.

    His position on delicate matters is, I think, the only one realistically possible.

    1. he has to collaborate with people who are on our side, but have Mestizo, Indian (dot & feather), east Asian, … spouses. Of course that in ideal world you wouldn’t find yourself in such a position, but he lives in the real world. And acts in such a world.

    2. Jewish question. He knows that most Jews would be against any kind of promotion of white European identity. Basically, you can trust only people of Jewish extraction who ceased to be Jews & have become “white Americans” in their primary loyalties. They include some converts & atheists, take your pick. Lawrence Auster still remains an authority on that issue: http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/024334.html Taylor knows very well that Judaist Jews are not reliable on these issues (immigration, black dysfunction, American historical identity….), but prefers to leave it at that, because why provoke hostility from a powerful minority group (which has an aura of paranoia around them) & thus distract energy & resources to fight exhausting & unwinnable battles? He knows he can get support from more deracinated Jews in future, when this group starts to feel more violence & threat from a colored coalition of fringes. Let the door remain open for them. He, of course, knows that conspiracy theories like Elders of Zion & imaginary Zionist control over US are rubbish. They’re not in control, but they’re influential. Why alienate them more than necessary-and it is necessary to confront & alienate them to a degree.

    3. he wisely avoids the label of “white nationalist” & has adopted the term “white advocate”, which is not just a tactical manoeuvre, but is closer to reality. One can be American nationalist (something historically white & only white) & cooperate with French, Russian, ..even with non-white nationalists because this all is rooted in reality. White nationalism is as dysfunctional & Utopian as pan-Slavic or pan-German “nationalism”, sorry examples of historical delusions.

    4. Jared Taylor, I think, knows limitations of his activities (not just isolation & slander in MSM etc.), but inherent weaknesses of his position:

    a) female question. Most white “nationalists” are traditionalists who live in a bygone era & would like to see women stripped of, say, voting rights. Sorry- it won’t happen. You just alienate many, way too many white women.

    b) rootlessness of “white nationalism”. You can’t have a broad movement with a real future based solely on phenotype. Blacks can act like a phenotypic-cultural group, but this is because they are, along with some other American non-whites, essentially parasitic. In modern world, you have to have cultural roots of identity in order to re-build a functioning society of your own. You can’t base it on religion alone, simply because many non-whites are Christians, too. So, to achieve some success, you have to go with promotion of a mixture of pan-European identity (Greece to modern Europe) & American (Jefferson, Franklin,…). This must cover all levels of culture, from high (Shakespeare, Mozart,..) to popular (basically, Tolkien & most epic fantasy is “white”).

    c) he need not have some grand designs for future, grand Utopian schemes (which are doomed to failure, anyway). He can, at best, try to awake as many Euro-Americans & Europeans from their slumber. Not much than that can be done.

    d) he fights, basically, for preservation & integrity of peoples belonging to white race. This is highly unpopular in the US & most Western Europe (plus the entire Anglosphere), while most nationally conscious whites, those in Eastern Europe simply don’t understand those race issues because all true foreigners they have had experience with were Gypsies.

    Jared Taylor fights an uphill battle & is a torch-bearer in difficult & unpredictable times, while his opponents include not just aggrieved non-white herd, not just suicidal anti-white white leftists belonging to the New Left- but also far right activists who are, by and large, moronic silt of the earth.

    • Replies: @Alden
  84. anarchyst says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    White heterosexual males are prohibited from exercising cultural and social solidarity by the various jew-inspired and mandated “civil-rights” and “public accommodation” laws. Jews are so blatant in their hypocrisy that they have whole “jews-only” villages, towns and cities right here in the USA. One example is Kiryas Joel, which is a “jews-only” town. Non-jews cannot buy real estate, live in the town or send their children to the taxpayer-funded “public schools” as they are reserved for “jews only”.

  85. @Anon

    Right. A long time ago, I was interviewed by a local TV station about a fairly small political issue. The lady taped only one question to me. I gave my answer, but on TV, my sentence was cut off right before the “but”, which made it mean exactly the opposite.

    It’s best to learn these things while you’re young. I did.

  86. Mikhail says: • Website
    @mark green

    George Will as far back as I can remember came across as a neocon hack with a level of intelligence. I recall Martin Agronsky calling Will out after the former said that the Russians have an inferior culture.

    As for Zakaria:

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/04/10/rebuking-zakaria-and-goading-trump-the-right-way/

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/11042019-rebuking-zakaria-and-goading-trump-the-right-way-oped/

  87. The insane cannot understand sane arguments. You’re wasting your time with CNN, Mr. Taylor, but it is good to have your analysis out there. It helps people like me articulate my position to others.

  88. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Alfa158

    There’re some in mass media who seem like they want to do the right thing, while feeling compromised. Perhaps she’s one of them.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  89. Realist says:

    Until the following mistakes are corrected this country is doomed:

    The SCOTUS has passed down egregious decisions that abridge the First Amendment and show contempt for the concept of a representative democracy.
    Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1976 and exacerbated by continuing stupid SCOTUS decisions First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission and McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission.
    These decisions have codified that money is free speech thereby giving entities of wealth and power almost total influence in elections.

    This situation is a catch 22 since both ‘parties’ are controlled by the rich elite. They will never allow people of conflicting views to attain power.

    Revolution is probably the only effective solution.

  90. @Days of Broken Arrows

    Maybe you didn’t understand, DoBA. This above is the editorial that CNN blew him off on for over a month and then “passed” on. He had submitted it in response to one their people telling him that their op-ed page (on their website, I guess) has all kinds of opinions. Mr. Taylor has now been assured that CNN is full of lyin’ sacks of shit.

    I will not watch this interview, due to lack of TV watching – it’s been~ 20 years, but I would be glad to read a follow-up here on unz. I quit reading Amren when the commenting system changed a few years back and I couldn’t read comments. I have nothing against the writing there though, so I probably should go back sometime.

  91. @Republic

    Ironically, I believe it was Jared Taylor who penned the classic review of Kevin MacDonald’s ‘The Culture of Critique’ under the pen name, Stanley Hornbeck. Taylor published this ‘anti-Semitic’ book review on American Renaissance.

    To this day, Stanley Hornbeck’s review of The Culture of Critique is the finest distillation of MacDonald’s explosive thesis that I have seen anywhere. I have never read an article-length treatise on the JQ that is more devastating.

    I included Hornbeck’s breathtaking article in my book, ‘Persecution, Privilege & Power’.

  92. @Bardon Kaldian

    Thank you for putting that in, Mr. Kaldian. I’d never seen that.

  93. @Cranberries

    Exactly. Jared Taylor is a good stepping stone to White Nationalism for normie Whites precisely because Taylor comes off as such a reasonable and intelligent man. No one is going from Fox News to The Daily Stormer overnight. Baby steps.

    Of course Mr. Taylor’s failure to address the JQ means that he can only ever be a stepping stone to the truth. But it’s a lot easier for someone to move from American Renaissance to Red Ice or Counter Currents after they’ve been weaned from Jewish media.

  94. @anonymous

    Well spotted. Sock puppet forgot which handle it was using. Happens even to the best of con men in real life when running many parallel scams under different identities.

  95. In 2018, the New York Times appointed a 31-year-old immigrant from Korea, Sarah Jeong, to its editorial board. Miss Jeong had tweeted such things as “White men are bullshit,” “#CancelWhitePeople,” and “White people have stopped breeding. you’ll all go extinct soon. That was my plan all along.” No white person who said anything remotely like this about non-whites could be a janitor at the Times.

    Just as sexual perversion exists and is advertised as something to be proud of, so too is another perversion, much more destructive and evil than that.

    It is the need on the part of some people to impress complete strangers with their good qualities. It starts in the first grade with the teacher pupil relationship. As time goes by it evolves into all sorts of “do good” projects. Feed the hungry, cure the sick, help those less fortunate. All with someone else’s money.

    All of these while ignoring the people closest to them. Their own kind. After all, they are all so deplorable. Hillary said so. It must be true.

    This perverted “need” is just as profound as any of the naturally occurring urges. And predatory individuals are tuned to spot these perversions and take advantage of them. Gaming the system, and indeed defining the system so it can be “gamed”, are part of human existence. Look at who runs the New York Times. Look at the ownership. Look at it’s controllers. And it didn’t happen overnight.

    Freedom of the press was just a half baked illusion. Now, with Political Correctness, we know that freedom of speech was also, just another illusion. The freedom to say whatever you think, and indeed, print it, is reserved to those with money. Probably the same people who provided most of the election financing for the last election.

  96. David says:
    @Matthew

    Exactly. But we can learn to make the same arguments, one on one, while our tires are being changed, or our groceries bagged. The lower half of the white bell curve feel beat up and rejected, but they need help articulating and justifying their pain.

    In this all white area, I see relief in a lot of faces when I stick up for Tayloresque views, and sense a little strengthening in white solidarity.

    And if they don’t agree, at least they see a person they generally respect humorously expressing views they’ve been told are incompatible with human decency let alone chatty friendliness.

  97. We are getting to the point where a HINDU “AMERICAN” Attorney General of a HINDU “AMERICAN” POTUS will declare millions of Native Born White American Working Class Males as domestic TERRORISTS…….shortly after Nov 3 2020……………This is what you call WHITE GENOCIDE….

  98. Good op-ed but shouldn’t JT point out that those Americans who support foreign interventionism and advocate for wars are the real racists and xenophobes responsible for willful mass murder of POCs and other nationals, far more than most WNs who are actually opposed to such policies?

  99. @Anon

    “…Had Christianity taken root in the heart of Africa or India rather than Europe and the West we would have had a flourishing of Africa and India for the past 1500 years and Europe and the West would still be barbarian…”

    Before Christianity there were in Europe the pagan cultures of Greece and Rome, and they were by no means “barbarian”. Christian Western Europe flourished culturally, but I seriously doubt the same would have happened if those Europeans were racially Africans. There is such a thing as “innate talents” of the races, independently of religion.

  100. geokat62 says:
    @mark green

    I included Hornbeck’s breathtaking article in my book, ‘Persecution, Privilege & Power’.

    My copy arrived in the mail a few weeks ago, mark. Looking forward to reading it in the beach in Montego Bay. If I’m near LA in the near future, I’ll seek you out to get you to sign it.

    • Replies: @mark green
  101. Anastasia says:

    I was born from a mother and father of two different cultures. One was southern Mediterranean and the other was from Northern Europe. Both were born in the US I never identified with either culture, but at the same time I feel that because of this mixed marriage, I lost a part of my identity. Each of my parents had a different way of viewing life, different ways of reacting to a particular situation. They liked different foods and neither liked the foods of the other’s culture. There were many things that created areas of disagreement that could be directly attributed to cultural differences. I think they would had had a more harmonious marriage if they married within their own culture. This is always what the Church taught with regard to race and cultures. Marry within your own. And if that is not possible, at least marry within your own faith

    When Spain came to the Americas that is how they were instructed by the Church. Spain made those people Christians and then they married them. It diminished the differences that would affect harmony in the married state but there were still differences that have impacted the civilization of the southern Americas

  102. KenH says:

    Even though Jared Taylor has done much good for the cause he’s guilty of deplatforming people who believe (and can prove) that Jews have played a pivotal role in white decline and now genocide. Criticism of Jewish power and influence has always been Jared Taylor’s red line and it can get your comments on his site deleted.

    When Jews behave badly we are supposed to pretend that they are “huwhite” liberals and that we’re inexplicably doing this all to ourselves or be cast into the outer darkness in Amren land.

    At the recent Amren conference Taylor remarked how all of the positive signs of white racial consciousness and ethno-nationalist parties are in Europe, but the reason for that is because Jewish power is currently much weaker in Europe than in America, so ethno-nationalists have some more breathing room. Taylor, who always has an answer for everything, feigned to be at a total loss over this trend. There is progress in Europe while America is being bolshevized by the Jews.

    The Jews are placing all of their chips on America and believe, not incorrectly, that as long as we remain under their tyranny that the world will remain theirs. That’s why they can’t and won’t let go or allow whites the freedom to advocate for their racial interests like everyone else because if they do that could spell the end for them since they fear and loathe us the most. As the late Revilo Oliver said, if the Jews lose control of America they lose the world.

  103. anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    To Tono Bungay: The only way out is to carve out a promised land of your own from within the promised land which might very well turn in to a S Hole country that Trump talks about. Watch the documentary Race War featuring Taylor and others now available on Amazon, Netflix etc.

  104. @Anon

    Had Christianity taken root in the heart of Africa or India rather than Europe and the West we would have had a flourishing of Africa and India for the past 1500 years and Europe and the West would still be barbarian.

    Good grief…..

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  105. “You’ll find the full force of government turned against you. What whites do, of course, when possible, is keep non-whites out via high home prices and zoning that keep apartment buildings from being built.”

    Take no federal or state monies and you can design whatever private community you desire.

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
  106. “…From the 1970s until 2001, the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations had its headquarters in a 20-acre (8.1 ha) compound in Kootenai County near Hayden Lake. In September 2000, the Southern Poverty Law Center won a $6.3 million judgment against the Aryan Nations from an Idaho jury, who awarded punitive and compensatory damages to Victoria Keenan and her son, Jason, who were attacked by Aryan Nations guards in 1999.[9] Bullets struck the Keenans’ car several times, then the car crashed and an Aryan member held the Keenans at gunpoint.[10] As a result of the judgment, Richard Butler turned the compound over to the Keenans, who then sold the property to a philanthropist who subsequently donated it to North Idaho College, which designated the land as a “peace park”.[11][12]…”

    Laughing.

    Caveat: It might be a good idea not to shoot people who are not a threat. Because you might get sued. Barring that shooting —

    Do try to stay on topic. That topic would exclude shooting cars who happen to meander on your property line.

    • Replies: @PeterMX
  107. Just to be clear dad,

    This,

    ” who awarded punitive and compensatory damages to Victoria Keenan and her son, Jason, who were attacked by Aryan Nations guards in 1999.[9] Bullets struck the Keenans’ car several times, then the car crashed and an Aryan member held the Keenans at gunpoint.”

    was not about private property rules. It was according to your source about an attack and held hostage.

  108. Jared Taylor cannot hope to have an honest dialogue with the jew media.

    Jared is decent, honest, rational, logical.

    jews and liberals are degenerate, dishonest, irrational, illogical.

    jews/liberals/journalists exhibit cognitive rigidity, maladaptive behavior, cognitive dissonance, faux egalitarianism, virtue signal, reject reality, have false beliefs, spread misinformation, and are unable to adjust views when confronted with truth and reality.

    How do you have a friendly dialogue with crazy people who want you dead?

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  109. Republic says:
    @mark green

    I think you are correct regarding that review by Stanley Hornbeck in American Renaissance

    Stanley Hornbeck’s article first appeared in the June 1999 issue of American Renaissance under the title: ‘Cherchez le Juif’.

    American Renaissance’s archive no longer has this article, but it is available here:
    http://library.flawlesslogic.com/juif.htm

    In that 1999 article,Stanley Hornbeck is described as the pen name of a Washington,DC, businessman

    Stanley Hornbeck’s had two articles published in American Renaissance in 2016, and was said to be the pen name of an East coast area law student.

    Incidentally, Stanley K. Hornbeck was a diplomat and former Rhodes scholar and was the former Chief, Division of Far Eastern Affairs, as well as the former Adviser on Political Relations, Department of State under Sec of State Hull

    Of course it is well known that Taylor was born in Japan
    ]

  110. @KenH

    At the recent Amren conference Taylor remarked how all of the positive signs of white racial consciousness and ethno-nationalist parties are in Europe, but the reason for that is because Jewish power is currently much weaker in Europe than in America, so ethno-nationalists have some more breathing room. Taylor, who always has an answer for everything, feigned to be at a total loss over this trend. There is progress in Europe while America is being bolshevized by the Jews.

    No. No real “ethnic awakening” anywhere in Anglosphere & the number/percentage of Hjews has nothing to do with the level of national self-consciousness resurgence.

    When I think of it, it seems that Anglos & Jews have some things in common, but I’m not sure I am too fond of some of them…

    a) hypocrisy
    b) good at biz & money-making, inventive
    c) prone to weird far reaches of faqqotry: https://www.timesofisrael.com/this-tel-aviv-drag-queen-says-the-glitz-and-glamour-are-far-from-the-point/

    For this Tel Aviv drag queen, the glitz and glamour are far from the point

    On the other hand, they differ in other traits:

    a) Jews generally devoted to family, Anglos less so
    b) Anglos big in sports, Jews not
    c) Anglos great drinkers, Hjews archetypal teetotalers

    • Replies: @KenH
  111. @Bardon Kaldian

    You put that more politely than I would have! Kudos.

  112. I’m not going to second guess Mr. Taylor’s methods, motives or philosophies here. The simple fact is that he is light years ahead of most who are posting here and likewise has bigger cojones.

    • Replies: @Anon
  113. @Republic

    I just now read the Stanley Hornbeck review and it is very good.

    It’s an accurate summation of the C of C.

  114. @EliteCommInc.

    You maybe right about that. Look no further than the Eno Commons Community homosexual pizza inter-racial adoption child pimping case out of Durham, NC which made quite a splash at about the same time as the Duke lacrosse case. Constructively speaking, a perspective resident has to “qualify” in order to live in this community. And I don’t mean just financially.

    https://www.remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/2009-0815-laughable_double_standard.htm

  115. PeterMX says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    CNN might even be worse than most of the media and I don’t think it’s only a coincidence that it’s top boss is a Jew named Jeff Zucker. While the concept of “white privilege” is the type of thing CNN strongly supports (while strongly supporting policies that will wipe whites out), CNN’s boss fired it’s employee Rick Sanchez who was the host of one its programs years ago when he made a comment on Jewish privilege, which is real and obvious. He was fired by Jeff Zucker the next day and denounced in the media as an “anti-Semite” and the rest of the sheepish American population of course chimed in supporting that claim. Sanchez made the traditional apology the Jews demanded and today he hosts a program on Russia Today.

    CNN of course was created by Ted Turner, who invente3d cablevision. He’s a southerner and he had a very different attitude towards the USSR during the Cold War than Jeff Zucker has towards Russia today. In the mid 1970’s Turner organized a huge sporting event, kind of like a second Olympics, featuring the USSR and the USA to promote peace. In general liberals would have supported such a thing then, but they did not like Ted Turner for other reasons, I believe because he is not a “chosen” one and worse than that, a “southern” goy. There are some things I remember very clearly and I remember in the mid 1970’s when the big three networks (ABC, CBS and NBC) dominated American television and the top boss of each of those networks was Jewish but Ted Turner made CNN into a major network and he became very wealthy. There was talk that Ted Turner might buy one of the “big three” and I remember reading in a newspaper at the time that the three Jewish heads of the major networks said Turner would not buy the network being discussed, they would make certain of that.

    Years later CNN merged with another company (perhaps Warner Brothers) and Turner was a member of the board and I suspect not liked until he finally left on his own or was pushed out. When the “Australian” Rupert Murdoch (who is probably Jewish) bought the Fox network, the Wall Street Journal and other media outlets in the US there was no discussion of keeping him out, so instead of getting the more peace oriented CNN under Ted Turner, the US got the belligerent Fox News under Murdoch. Fox was a big part of the propaganda campaign to attack Iraq in 2003 and has supported every war since then. Tucker Carlson is a newer addition to the network. The big mouth Hannity and others were the mouths in the 2000’s and still tday.

    I saw a book or an article about 10 or 15 years ago that basically said Murdoch won out in a war over Ted Turner as to who would be the most important media head in the USA and this was unfortunate because Murdoch and his media was supportive of an aggressive American foreign policy and its wars. The writer basically portrayed Murdoch as a victor over Turner in a business battle (like Apple vs Microsoft and the PC). When I consider what those three network heads said about Turner, I don’t think it was an even playing field. Turner is still wealthy, but he lost most of his wealth and became worth a fraction of what he had been worth.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  116. @Wizard of Oz

    Agreed, but it’s easy to be a general after battle. To live in constant vigilance of possible pitfalls & swindles is probably sagacious, but somehow….. mentally unhealthy?

  117. @KenH

    You might want to ask Jörg Haider about that. But before you do, look up images or videos of his ultra safe car that was electronically hijacked.

  118. PeterMX says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    If true, that sounds fair, assuming that narrative accurately describes what happened. And I can’t help being skeptical considering the lies surrounding the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville and how at least one innocent member of the right faces life in prison while the communists that attacked the “fascists” are not only accused of nothing, but are actually portrayed as innocent heroes. The Jewish run Southern Poverty Law Center has fallen from its perch with its former head, a wonderful man by all media accounts (they even made a major movie about him) exposed as a rapist. For years this wonderful organization tried to get Professor Kevin MacDonald fired from his position at his university where he held tenure. They made his life at work as unpleasant as they could until he retired. Unbowed, his books are receiving a lot more attention and his fascinating theories receive a lot more attention than they had been getting. The SPLC has a long list of white Christians that they hate. I believe they even have a major historian named David Irving on their “hate” list.

  119. Jared Taylor, you just proved yourself to be a complete idiot and unworthy of being followed.

    It’s 2019 and you thought CNN would deal with your opinion “fairly.” After 2 years of Russia Hoax Conspiracy, fake hate crimes,all of which tied to daily claims that all Trump supporters are Neo Nazis. That just shows how stupid and unobservant you are.

    So either you’re colossally idiotic to become CNN’s fall guy, or you’re a fake leader put into place by the Left to make our side look stupid and willingly became CNN’s fall guy.

    Anyone reading this: you should avoid American Renaissance and all its work and content. Jared’s IQ is either in the toilet or he’s a Fake Leader.

  120. @Wizard of Oz

    Because he’s either incredibly stupid or controlled opposition. Either way, stop following him!

  121. What did you hope to achieve by giving this interview?

    It sounds like you knew you would be deceived and then went through with this in order to be deceived.

    Who fooled whom here?

    CNN? Fareed Zakaria? Really? I’m shocked.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  122. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Listening to CNN ( Warner Media ) with its Zakarias , is masochism , pure masochism . Switch off Television .

  123. Our Republic is gone forever.
    That’s a truism not a revelation.
    It’s now down to binary rollover “democratic socialism” communism
    or brutal revolutionary fascism.
    As repugnant as that fact is to all those with a functioning brain,
    anything less forceful will be but a sacrifice in vain.
    Too late for effete appeals to reason, morals, fairness,…
    liberal 1960s legacy history but an introduction to tyranny.
    Party time for all to see like in 1933.

  124. @Republic

    I’ve read it now & found nothing new in it deserving attention. Basically, MacDonald is a visceral Judeophobe who tries to find arguments for his inclinations, something along what Chesterton said about women & reasons.

    Chief gaping hole in MacDonald’s edifice is his superficial knowledge of the subject (this is the case with this review, too). Good thing in his series is that he exposed elements of Jewish “shadow” & their hubris; bad is everything else.

    For God’s sake, read something serious, I’ve posted these linx I don’t know how many times….

    [MORE]

    ….
    Of course, older stuff (Graetz, Dubnov,..) may be interesting, but is dated in many respects…

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  125. Alfa158 says:
    @Mikhail

    Yes, there are a handful, I just see little evidence there are any at CNN. If she does want to do the right thing, it doesn’t matter because she has to either compromise and go along with the program, or quit, get her own podcast and carry on until she is de-monetized or de-platformed. I would have more respect for her if she was as corrupt as the rest of CNN as opposed to someone who knows better but sells herself anyway while rationalizes that she is working to drain the cesspool while swimming in it.

  126. @Johnny Rico

    Wrong. Jared complains, rightfully, but he’ll get wider attention. Pluses outweigh minuses. For those who had already formed their opinion, this all is irrelevant. The entire show & arguments are of absolutely no importance. Something like Kavanaugh & that women (I forgot her name).

    But, for many people who are uninformed & are open to new ideas- Jared Taylor will be the winner & something excitingly new (Zakaria a [email protected] he is). No amount of media manipulation & censorship can change that. So, I think, in this case, it will be for Amren: one step back two steps forward.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  127. Rosie says:
    @RoatanBill

    What’s left of the white race will have the last laugh when things start to break down under non white control and there’s no one smart enough to fit it.

    That’s a cope. There are easily enough high-caste Indians and Northeast Asians to replace every last one of you, albeit with less innovation. They can frequently be found on this site stirring up trouble between White men and women for their own ethnic purposes.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  128. KenH says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    No. No real “ethnic awakening” anywhere in Anglosphere & the number/percentage of Hjews has nothing to do with the level of national self-consciousness resurgence.

    And how can there be when an implacably hostile (((media and entertainment industry))) and (((university system))) throughout the West but especially in America spews anti-white bile 24/7 while lavishing praise on non-whites? When the ADL and SPLC, two Jewish terrorist groups, work to ruin the reputation and finances of any pro-white person with charisma and leadership ability?

    White Americas pre-1965 were a very race conscious people who believed America was meant to be a white nation and wouldn’t hesitate to collectively punish blacks for transgressions against whites. The post 1965 Jewish paradigm has created an inverted reality where whites are self hating or race neutral and believe that America was founded for every race and religion. Blacks now push whites off of sidewalks and much worse.

    So this all just happened by accident? Jewish ethnic activism had nothing to do with it? You’re a Jew so your job is to deny facts and push the lie that whites did it and are doing it to themselves.

    As the late Harold Covington aptly said, whites need a permission slip to take action or to think racially. As long as Jews wield power that permission slip will not be provided and whites will only become racially conscious when there’s no longer fear of Jewish instigated reprisals.

  129. @geokat62

    Thanx Geo. My book is merely a collection of hard-hitting essays on a the Jewish Question (I prefer to call it the Jewish Problem).

    When I published this book, the invaluable UNZ Review did not exist. Fortunately, there are some classic articles in there still, including one by Kevin MacDonald, Alison Weir, Gilad Atzmon, Joe Sobran, Mark Weber, Israel Shamir, and James Petras. For its day (2007) this collection was rather daring.

  130. S says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    CNN proves to be typical MSM, and thus basically dishonest and spreading “fake news”. Its slogans are as predictable as those in Stalin’s Russia or Mao’s China :
    “Race is a social construct”, “Diversity is Strength”, White Supremacism”, “Hate” etc. etc…

    You forgot the ‘War is Peace’, ‘Freedom is Slavery’, ‘Ignorance is Strength’ part. 😉

    Why wasting your time on appearing on such media? They lost the trust of the public anyway :

    That would make for the kernel of a good response by anyone (whatever their beliefs) if asked for an interview by today’s MSM, ie:

    ‘You’ve gotten a bad name for yourselves nowadays and no one trust or believes you. My time’s valuable and I don’t want to have my good name or ideas besmirched by being seen to be associated with you in any way, shape, or form. No thanks.’

  131. @Republic

    Below is the Stanley Hornbeck review of Kevin MacDonald’s ‘Culture of Critique’.

    Read it. Bookmark it. Circulate it.

    This article was what inspired me to publish ny collection of articles (in book form) on the Jewish problem.

    http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/culturec.html

    • Replies: @Republic
    , @Miro23
  132. Robjil says:
    @Old North Church

    Our MSM loves the term “whites” since a color can’t be a person or connected to any land. European American or European Caucasian are real terms.

    Any other group is allowed to be called by the terms that they like to be called by. Blacks recently said they want to be called African Americans for the same reasons, they want to identified as real persons connected to a land.

    The use of the term “whites” in Europe is ridiculous. Indigenous Europeans or Native Europeans would be a better term. The term “whites” is racism used by our MSM to destroy European native cultures.

  133. Rosie says:
    @KenH

    Even though Jared Taylor has done much good for the cause he’s guilty of deplatforming people who believe (and can prove) that Jews have played a pivotal role in white decline and now genocide. Criticism of Jewish power and influence has always been Jared Taylor’s red line and it can get your comments on his site deleted.

    I get wanting to avoid the JQ, because people are just so conditioned to tune it out, but where is the concern for optics when it comes to the WQ (you know, half the White population)?

    Jared acknowledges Jewish Power by refusing to acknowledge it, and does so even as he tolerates calls for women to be disenfranchised on his website.

    I know that White advocates are in an awkward position, trying to appease various factions within the dissident right, but at the end of the day, there is simply no point trying to market White advocacy to the mainstream general public while these mouth-breathing reactionary woman-haters carry on disgracing this movement.

    At some point, White men are going to have to decide whether or not they want to survive. On any given day, your typical White advocate insults like 80% of the White population for one reason or another, such as:

    1. Being a single mother.
    2. Being the child of a single mother.
    3. Being fat.
    4. Being a single female and not a virgin.
    5. Being a Christian.
    6. Being gay.

    This movement is either a serious movement for change or a navel-gazing LARP.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Anon000
    , @KenH
  134. Anon000 says:
    @Rosie

    At some point, White men are going to have to decide whether or not they want to survive. On any given day, your typical White advocate insults like 80% of the White population for one reason or another, such as:

    1. Being a single mother.
    2. Being the child of a single mother.
    3. Being fat.
    4. Being a single female and not a virgin.
    5. Being a Christian.
    6. Being gay.

    Single mother… child of a single mother… not a virgin…

    Geez, and you wonder why your “typical White advocate” marries a NE Asian woman.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Alden
  135. Jared Taylor: “Whites were never asked if [becoming a minority] was what they wanted.”

    They show they wanted it by their past and continued support of actions that inevitably lead to it. They support the churches who bring in non-whites to dwell among them; they elect and re-elect the politicians who put into place anti-white policies.

    The argument that the racial eclipse of white America is somehow illegitimate because there was never a referendum on it is transparently false, unworthy of a man like Taylor, or at least his public persona, since he likes to present himself as the intellectual face of white nationalism. If he really doesn’t know this, he’s not as smart as he likes to pretend; if he does know his argument is false but uses it anyway, he’s dishonest and just another grifter making his living from “white nationalism”.

    • Agree: AaronB
    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Bardon Kaldian
  136. Z-man says:

    Thumbs up to you Jared Taylor.

  137. Cyrano says:

    Lemme explain where all this current problems in the western societies originate from. It all started in the cold war. Back then, the good people of the west got the scare of their lives when they observed the creation and existence of a totalitarian state.

    In the totalitarian state everybody was equal – who wants a horror like that?

    So the clever western elites decided to create – as a response to the totalitarian state – a partialitarian state. The partialitarian state was designed to be partial to the needs of their elites and the needs of the 3rd world immigrant hordes – but not to the needs of the majority population.

    And just to keep the dumba**es emotionally and intellectually engaged (but with no intention to ever marry them) the elites designed a reality show called elections.

    Thus the great unwashed got the impression that they participate in the decision making process – via voting, although none of them, for the life of them, could ever remember in which elections exactly did the vote for the foreign invasion called multiculturalism.

  138. Republic says:
    @mark green

    This article was what inspired me to publish ny collection of articles (in book form) on the Jewish problem.

    Thank you for writing that book

  139. Rosie says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    They show they wanted it by their past and continued support of actions that inevitably lead to it.

    Nonsense. The two-party system is a two-headed monster, and no real choice has been offered for decades.

    • Agree: Hail
  140. Rosie says:
    @Anon000

    Single mother… child of a single mother… not a virgin…

    Geez, and you wonder why your “typical White advocate” marries a NE Asian woman.

    I rest my case.

    Anyway, premarital sex has been common since forever. As I pointed out the other day, the legitimacy explosion is mostly men’s fault:

    https://www.brookings.edu/research/an-analysis-of-out-of-wedlock-births-in-the-united-states/

    • Replies: @Anon000
    , @Alden
    , @TTSSYF
  141. @PeterMX

    While I disagree on supposedly Jewish Murdoch (he’s not) & have no opinion on supposedly belligerent Fox, you are more than right in your claim that Jews stick together when it comes to media ownership.

    In fact, theirs is a Mafia-type behavior when it comes to media (TV, papers, radio,..) ownership. It is not difficult to see that without falling into grand conspiracy against white race delusion. Their clannishness can be easily detected in a day or two just by browsing big 6 (90%) media conglomerates & see not only majority ownership, but also CEOs & lower levels officials.

    CNN is one example, but Disney is even more glaring: they took it over & then appointed almost exclusively Jews at almost all subsections & what not. I very much doubt that anything but ethnic nepotism was the major motive for that; these Jewish business people may be gifted, but if they are 90% of CEOs- no, they’re not that gifted. Also, there was a crisis when some Jew-owned big media conglomerate was in trouble & some Gentile magnate was trying to buy it. Immediately, 2 Jewish media moguls stepped in & it remained in the hands of the tribe.
    One can start with this & check lower levels: https://www.webfx.com/data/the-6-companies-that-own-almost-all-media/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_cross-ownership_in_the_United_States

    Most commenters make a mistake when they think that Jews are dominant in US banking business (they’re not). But in the media- you got a perfect case for ethnic mafiosi type of running business, more effective than imaginary Masons or what not.

    • Replies: @PeterMX
  142. Miro23 says:

    I wrote to say that if CNN really “prints all kinds of opinions from all kinds of folks,” CNN should print my opinion. Miss McGuirk promptly sent me the email address of the op-ed editor, Richard Galant. It took a little pestering, but Mr. Galant sent me CNN’s guidelines for op-eds, and that same day, May 12, I sent him a piece that matched his guidelines perfectly.

    And then I waited…

    These people are working in a heavily politicized Jewish environment, and know they have follow the party line, which is “State of Hate: The Explosion of White Supremacy.” They’re not going to risk their careers to be fair to JT.

    May as well ask the Mafia to be fair, balanced and honest.

  143. Druid says:
    @Cyrano

    Multiculturalism is a Jewish thing!!!!

  144. Druid says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Yes, but he is white on the inside, don’t you know!! Poor guy!!lol

  145. Just check this, 1983 and 2011: https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

    Let’s remember “controversial” cases (Zimmerman, Ferguson, some other blacks shot, fat black guy who died in New York from asthma attack, that racially charged accusations against some white woman who was put out of business (something about food), Mizzou hysteria, immigration dramas, Trump campaign, Kavanaugh witch-hunt, various meetoos, Russiagate, Avenatti & that whore, Trump vs Acosta, that fat black lady (Abrams?) ….).

    Except Fox, all other media had behaved like raving lunatics, telling from the outset outright lies & fantasy tales & kept going on & on & on…..

    You will know them by their fruits.

  146. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I understand your position & partially agree with some points, but all I can say- don’t take it personally & I don’t want to offend you- you have cognitive dissonance. Your entire world-view, as seen in these pages, is empty, defeatist, ahistorical & nihilist (not that there is anything wrong with that – but there can be no life & future with it…).

    Especially your “crusade” against Christianity is both comic & primitive, as are your assessments of human motives, drives & goals, particularly of those belonging to Western culture.

    Nothing personal….

  147. AaronB says:

    Powerful, rich whites like that Jews control the media and acquiesce in it.

    If they didn’t, they would have set up media alternatives. It would have been easy.

    Jews may control who works in media they own, but they couldn’t stop powerful whites from setting up alternatives.

    Rich whites ceded the media willingly to Jews, maybe even enthusiastically…..

    Why?

    The answer is obvious.

    Whites, with no religion, have no spiritual message to impart…therefore they naturally cede the educational and mind-forming sphere to those who do have a spiritual message to impart.

    They happily leave all that mumbo jumbo to Jews.

    Rich and powerful whites care only for money and science and consumerism.

    They are quite happy that someone else is interested in taking over the spiritual field.

    And Jews have not betrayed their powerful white allies – they have helped them get richer.

    Jewish elites in America are spiritually corrupt, and spreading a corrupt form of Judaism (tikkun olam does not mean SJW)- white elites are not even spiritually corrupt. They have simply no connection to spiritually at all.

    The last time white elites were spiritually corrupt, maybe have been in the late 19th century.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  148. Rosie: “Nonsense. The two-party system is a two-headed monster, and no real choice has been offered for decades.”

    Yet white people keep participating in it, voting mostly for the two parties. They have always had the option of starting their own, racially-oriented white peoples’ party, but recoil in horror from such a prospect. They could have demanded a referendum on immigration such as Taylor pines for, but haven’t and won’t, because they don’t want to be “haters”. In short, the people have the politicians they deserve.

    As an aside, I will add that I’ve just been reviewing night two of the Democratic debate. Eight of the ten candidates appear to be white, and yet all were trying to outdo each other to see who could be the most anti-white. This has also been the case “for decades”, as you put it. The vast majority of politicians who put anti-white policies into place were white themselves, as were the people that voted them into office.

    This should tell us the problem is primarily cultural, not political. Two thousand years of Christian thinking has softened the white man’s brains. Politicians must go with the cultural flow, and despite a nominal secularization, that flow is still guided by Christian morality. So long as that morality prevails, even if there were a referendum, whites would probably vote to become a minority. They’d do it “for the children”, just as their Bible tells them to do, or to “welcome the stranger”, as it also tells them to do.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  149. Mr. Zakaria wasted a lot of time claiming that race does not exist and that even if it does, as a sub-continental Indian he’s white, too

    Many Indians think they’re white, but I have yet to meet a white person who thinks he’s Indian.

    Anyone who isn’t mentally retarded would die laughing at India being a “white” country.

  150. AaronB says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You are correct in your diagnosis, but wrong in your cure.

    While whites were Christian, they were self-respecting.

    That your diagnosis can be so clear eyed, yet your solution another version of the disease, reminds me of the HBD crowd, who also diagnose clearly but reproduce the disease in their solutions.

    This strange dynamic seems to characterize all white attempts at a cure – clear eyed diagnosis, followed by a cure that reproduces the disease.

    It is almost as if whites are operating within a certain framework they cannot escape, that certain assumptions they hold unconsciously shape all their efforts to find a solution – and these assumptions are actually ground zero for the disease.

    Utu and Bardon Kaldian are two other quasi-spiritual clear eyed diagnosers who yet reproduce the disease in their efforts at a cure.

    It’s almost as if whites cannot escape this certain framework of assumptions, nor clearly see them.

    An outside act of Providence is needed.

  151. Bardon Kaldian: “Especially your “crusade” against Christianity is both comic & primitive, …”

    I get a laugh out of you, Kaldian. You could be a poster boy for the brain-softening effect of Christianity. Too bad you can’t answer my arguments, and instead are reduced to invective. Rabbi Jesus was counting on you …

  152. 3g4me says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    @7 Monotonous Languour: “Taylor should have known better from the outset. Don’t fraternize with the enemy. Don’t talk with the enemy. Don’t believe the enemy. And make sure you’ve learned enemy identification so that you don’t mistakenly wander into their camp. It should have been crystal clear from the outset that CNN was enemy territory, that everything they said was a lie, and that putting yourself in their hands was simply asking for trouble. ”

    This. I don’t comment enough to warrant the “agree” button but I AGREE!!! Taylor should know better, by this point, than to appear on the MSM in general, but CNN in particular – and Fareed Zakharia?!! Taylor was trusting and naive and even his post “proves” nothing else to no one. He was used and was/is out of his depth with today’s journalists.

  153. @Alfa158

    …if she was genuinely what she presented herself to, be a fair, impartial seeker of truth and discourse why would she be working for a cesspool like CNN? And why would the denizens of such a pit retain someone like her?

    Mr. Taylor is a gentleman of the old school, and so is not going to accuse someone of lying, unless he has actual proof.

    But the rest of us know she’s a damnable liar.

    • Replies: @95Theses
    , @Johnny Rico
  154. @Bardon Kaldian

    he’ll get wider attention

    Wider attention than what? The zero attention it is getting now.

    I doubt it. Good luck, but that seems to be wishful thinking.

  155. “Professor Kevin MacDonald fired from his position at his university where he held tenure. ”

    I don’t think he has any idea of what a hostile environment can be. I just don’t think that anyone is really keeping whites from marginalizing themselves if they so choose. The south probably could have maintained separate but equal — if the matter had been equal.
    —————–

    The problem for those making this advance is that more than 2000 years of history makes a pretty convincing case that whiteness is a social fabric unto itself around which a society can be built. The founders may have felt otherwise, but they clearly understood that in the end white people needed more than whiteness. The revolution was largely a dispute among whites. Seven years war, 100 Years war . . . Crimea, Napoleonic wars . . . and endless list of barbaric blood letting over money, marriage, status, ethnic pride and loyalty, faith and practice, personal offence . . .

  156. @AaronB

    Now- you’ve triumphed over all your previous confusions. What you wrote is a monument, actually the Taj Mahal of freely associating confused muddle.

    Whites (Gentiles), rich ones… are spiritually empty & don’t care about religion etc. Of course, this cannot be proven, but let’s cut you some slack.

    Rich Jewish media moguls are…..spiritual? Do you really believe in what you wrote? There is absolutely no proof they are religious, even in their tribalistic-ritualistic way.

    Reading your thoughts, I am inclined to believe that you would support the claim that JFK should be a candidate for sainthood because of his extremely chaste life.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  157. Goodness Mormons have been each other and anyone else who got in their way until the 1900’s. They are white and engaged in a lot of disrespectful behavior with great respectability.

  158. AaronB: “While whites were Christian, they were self-respecting. ”

    It’s precisely because they are still Christian that they are not self-respecting. Whites are so indelibly imbued with Christianity that even white atheists accept the Christian “brotherhood of man” nonsense. Christianity was the Bolshevism of the ancient world, and as Spengler observed, Christian theology is its source in the modern world too.

    “All Communist systems in the West are in fact derived from Christian theological thought … Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism.”
    – Oswald Spengler, in “The Hour of Decision”

  159. SafeNow says:

    I live in California, which is the future of the entire country. Recently studying the driving manual to renew my license, I came upon a warning to not honk at a misbehaving driver, as he might “retaliate.” “Retaliate” does not mean “honk back.” Rather, it means “kill me.” Yes, nice metaphor; to honk or not to honk? I think it depends upon one’s own psychological tolerance for the unpleasant factors that exist on both sides of the coin. I respect either decision.

  160. Aside from the question of whether Prof. MacDonald is right is the further question of what difference it makes if he is right. If correct, his thesis certainly sheds light on the rapidity with which whites lost their will. Just a few decades ago whites were a confident race, proud of their achievements, convinced of their fitness to dominate the globe. Today they are a declining, apologetic people, ashamed of their history and not sure even of their claim to lands they have occupied for centuries. It is very rare for fundamental concepts to be stood on their heads in the course of just a generation or two, as has happened with thinking about race. Such speed suggests there has been something more than natural change.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  161. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Dance, Salome, dance.

  162. Bliss says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    That was pathetic. Jared Taylor, through his whiny, cringy words and servile mannerisms, was basically acknowledging the “biological” superiority of his interviewer. It was clear who was the master here and who the serf.

    Basically WNs have passed the torch of racial supremacism to East Asians.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  163. 95Theses says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Please cite an example of a mass shooting since 1934 where young men ever used fully automatic weapons.

    Then – if you can – show how universalizing an anecdote (or two) transforms the other 10+million Americans who own an AR into latent homicidal maniacs – especially considering that about a million new AR-15s are purchased every year. According to your insight, there ought to be scores of these happening weekly. So why aren’t these murders being reported?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  164. Goodness Mormons have been at each other and anyone else who got in their way until the 1900’s. They are white and engaged in a lot of disrespectful behavior with great respectability.

  165. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Rich Jewish media moguls are…..spiritual? Do you really believe in what you wrote? There is absolutely no proof they are religious, even in their tribalistic-ritualistic way.

    You did not read my comment attentively.

    Rich media owning Jews are spiritually corrupt – SJW is a corrupt form of spirituality.

    It is the echo of a moral ethic – perhaps the mockery of a moral ethic.

    Rich media Jews have residues and traces of spirituality, that has grown rank and corrupt in a materialist environment, and rotted as it grew distant from its source of oxygen, Judaism.

    Whites went through this phase earlier – by the end of WW2, white elites were simply materialist and “mechanical”, believing only in the “managerial technique”, and “efficiency”, without even the corrupt dregs of a spirituality, or any link to one.

    Spiritual whites today, flock to the SJW banner – because it is the only thing resembling a spirituality they have in their environment.

  166. Rosie says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    It’s precisely because they are still Christian that they are not self-respecting. Whites are so indelibly imbued with Christianity that even white atheists accept the Christian “brotherhood of man” nonsense. Christianity was the Bolshevism of the ancient world, and as Spengler observed, Christian theology is its source in the modern world too.

    More self-defeating divisiveness.

    This is wrong, but frankly that’s beside the point. We shouldn’t be having this conversation anyway.

  167. trelane says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    Written like a true algorithm. Are you a machine or a human? I can’t tell the difference.

  168. AaronB says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    All Communist systems in the West are in fact derived from Christian theological thought … Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism.”
    – Oswald Spengler, in “The Hour of Decision”

    This is absolutely true. Just as Christianity is derived from Jewish thought.

    That does not mean they are the same thing. Things derived from other things are not the same as those things.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
  169. Robert Dolan: “Just a few decades ago whites were a confident race, proud of their achievements, convinced of their fitness to dominate the globe. ”

    Just a few decades ago meaning say, in 1945, when they had just finished defeating white supremacism in Europe, at the cost of millions of white lives? Or did you mean by “a few decades ago” to go all the way back to 1865, when American whites had just concluded their first big war against white supremacy, and were in haste to make negroes citizens of their country fully equal to themselves, and grant them voting rights?

    The idea that the white race as a whole has ever been explicitly united in a belief in its own racial superiority is just an hallucination; a lie. If they had been, neither of the above wars would ever have been fought, let alone won by the anti-white-supremacy side.

  170. @MattinLA

    I fully agree with this comment. We are in a state of war that although it was not officially declared on us we are being attacked on every front and we should never believe in their intellectual integrity because they do not believe in it. Period.

  171. Christianity is the antidote to talmudism, the opposite of jewish thought.

    Christianity is universal, while judaism is particularist.

    Hess and Marx and Lenin and Trotsky and Freud and Adorno and Marcuse did not reference Christianity in any way, and in fact as a group they fought against the church as they saw the church as a unifying structure for gentiles.

    Marxism is relentlessly godless and seeks to destroy religion to leave the goyim disarmed and atomized.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  172. AaronB says:

    Ways Christianity engenders self respect –

    One is “aligned” with the Laws of the Universe.

    One is a “servant of God” – one derives worth from a higher power (human fallibility does not weigh so heavily).

    One is a Son of God.

    God loves you. You are valuable and loved.

    Jesus saved you from original sin. You have been saved from “guilt”.

    A real ethic instead of mere brutal Will to Power.

    —-

    Clearly, Christianity cannot be the source of the idea that whites are “evil”. God loves all his children.

    Christianity cannot cause feelings of self hatred in anyone to the extent one adheres to it – one is a valuable son of God carrying out his will.

    Christianity cannot be the source of white “guilt” – Jesus saved you from guilt, and repentance erases guilt.

    One MAY argue Christianity causes excessive benevolence and sacrifice –

    But NEVER suicide (one can no longer do acts of kindness if one is dead).

    And NEVER self hatred, or hatred of one’s own race.

    ——

    Look elsewhere.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  173. @95Theses

    As you could see I said “or semi automatic” because, frankly, it isn’t something that matters to me to get precisely right because my view of the American situation as an Australian can be expressed in the classic bit of Irishry “well I wouldn’t be starting from here”. However, if I were American I have little doubt that I would want much tighter controls on who can own guns amongst other details.

    As you are no doubt far better informed than I you might care to explain the problem of “bump stocks” and whether the modification effectually creates automatic weapons. I Googled “how did the Las Vegas shooter modify his guns” (because I couldn’t even remember “bump stock” and this is some of what it produced:

    “The gunman who opened fire on an outdoor concert in Las Vegas had two “bump-stocks” that would have allowed a semi-automatic gun to shoot more like an automatic weapon, the Associated Press reports.

    The devices replace the gun’s shoulder rest with a “support step” that covers the trigger opening, using the recoil from the gun’s firing to bump the user’s finger to “bump” the trigger, allowing it to fire at a faster rate. If bump stocks were used, they would allow Stephen Paddock to fire hundreds of times into the crowd at the at the Route 91 Harvest Festival at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas on Sunday night.

    California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein has long criticized bump stocks, arguing that they essentially retrofit semiautomatic weapons, which are legal, to make them fully automatic weapons, which are not.

    Here’s what you need to know.

    What is an automatic weapon?
    Automatic weapons, sometimes colloquially called “machine guns,” fire continuously when the trigger is pulled down. Semiautomatic weapons releases one round per pull of the trigger.

    Is it legal to own automatic and semiautomatic weapons?
    Technically yes, but there are a lot of restrictions on them. Automatic weapons manufactured and registered with the government before 1986 can still be legally bought, owned and sold. To buy one, you need to submit fingerprints and photographs to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, submit to an FBI criminal background check and pay a $200 tax, among other restrictions.”

  174. Robert Dolan: “Christianity is universal, while judaism is particularist. ”

    That’s right. To a Christian, it’s more important that a man is a Christian than that he is any particular race. A Christian would rather his daughter marry another Christian who is non-white than marry a white who isn’t Christian. Not so with a Jew. They stick with their own, and stick together.

    • Disagree: AaronB, 95Theses
    • Replies: @AaronB
  175. AaronB says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Judaism is universalism in particularism.

    Polarity, the balancing of opposites, is an essential element of Judaism.

    Perhaps only The Kaldian among you whites gathered here can grasp this.

  176. AaronB: “And NEVER self hatred, or hatred of one’s own race.”

    “Whoever loves his life will lose it, but whoever hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. ”
    – John 12:25

    Race? Race, we are told, is like an extended family. What does Jesus have to say about a family sticking together?

    “For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.”
    – Matthew 10:35

    Looks like he’s not in favor of it.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Bassarab
  177. @Franklin Ryckaert

    they are a stabilized mix of Caucasoids and Australoids

    The caucasoid element comprises the vast majority

    • Replies: @Thomm
  178. Anon000 says:
    @Rosie

    If not for white women we wouldn’t have easy sex through legal birth control and legal abortion giving men the option of opting out of marriage and fatherhood while also having a marriage-like relationship with no obligations or ties. And of course, these unmarried white women then became more liberal and politically active, assiduously promoting those things which will hasten their own demise. With immigration being the most destructive.

    As G.K. Chesterton said about birth control over a hundred years ago, “Birth control leads to two things— no birth and no control.”

    • Replies: @Rosie
  179. “You maybe right about that. Look no further than the Eno Commons Community homosexual pizza inter-racial adoption child pimping case out of Durham, NC which made quite a splash at about the same time as the Duke lacrosse case.”

    I am just not convinced that there as many barriers as it seems to creating a community for like minded individuals. Now granted it may require some specific choices, but then the goal is more specific in nature.

  180. AaronB says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Exactly so.

    Surrender your life to God, and you will find a source of worth greater than anything to be found in your finite biological imperfection.

    And yes, God is greater than race or biological family, and must be your ultimate loyalty.

    If you prefer God to family or race, than the family or race that does so is sanctified.

    That’s how we Jews understand ourselves – in our biological selves we are nothing, not superior to you, but if we are loyal to God, that is the source of our worth.

    That is what “chosen” means.

    So too, the race that does not prefer itself, but prefers God, is sanctified, and is blessed.

    Universalism within particularism, polarity balanced.

    Stop thinking in Aristotelian logic, in Enlightenment superficiality!

  181. Bassarab says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you.”
    – Matthew 5:45

    “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.”
    – Luke 14:26

    Ah you are on to something my friend. Let me expound a little if you will. According to my cursory reading of the Gospels it appears Jesus enjoins us to pray for our enemies and even to love them and on the other hand to despise our families, to hate them!

    A ha! Yes, this must have been what Jesus meant! You and I, doctor have got it all figured out! But we are only scratching the surface here let us continue with our careful analysis of biblical texts shall we…

    “‘There is no God.’” – Psalm 13:1

    Hey doc, we’ve got this Christianity thing all figured out, don’t we??

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  182. @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Oh. Wow. You are a bright one. I think probably anyone over the age of eight can understand she is a liar. That’s her job.

  183. jim_bean says:

    @BengaliCanadianDude

    The caucasoid element comprises the vast majority (of Indians)

    You forgot to mention the dark brown element.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  184. “Looks like he’s not in favor of it.”

    I guess I will be the bass . . .

    Fiddle sticks . . .

    That is not what Christ is saying at all. It’s not an admonition, it’s warning. That if you choose christ that might cause one’s family to reject you. Be prepared because a walk with me will cause people to hate you — including members of your own family.

    A walk with Christ is tough . . . hated choices, lonely choices, mistakes, repair . . . constantly. And party of that process may include breaking ties with family to walk that life with Christ. Jesus loves kids and family for such is one of the reasons he created men and women.

  185. Bliss says:
    @jim_bean

    Actually it is the black ASI element which is the main genetic component in the Indian subcontinent.

    The bengali from Black Town, Calcutta is in denial.

    Btw, that also highlights the stupidity of the 3 race theory concocted in the 19th century.

    • Replies: @Malla
  186. Bassarab: “Hey doc, we’ve got this Christianity thing all figured out, don’t we??”

    Oh, I gotcha my ironic buddy. The text doesn’t mean what it says, it means what we want it to mean! That’s quite a brilliant insight. No doubt your own particular interpretation is what you and your six friends (if you have that many, or can count that high) call “real” Christianity. Everyone who doesn’t believe as you do is a heretic, or at least gravely mistaken. Only problem is, this supposedly unifying force, Christianity, has caused ceaseless division among whites since its inception. So Jesus’ desire to sow division has unquestionably been fulfilled. Since the text means whatever the reader wants, it’s probably not correct to speak of Christianity as though it were a single thing. “Christianity” runs the gamut from denying that Jesus was any more than a man, to denying he existed as a man at all, to affirming rabbi Jesus as God; the gamut from worshiping Jews to hating them; from loving the OT God to despising him; from revering the ten commandments to abominating and trying to break them all. It turns out there are as many Christianities as there are Christians. But unfortunately, they are all equally deluded.

  187. AaronB: “And yes, God is greater than race or biological family, and must be your ultimate loyalty.”

    God is an adult version of a child’s imaginary friend, perfectly explainable in psychological terms as a coping mechanism, something weak people need to avoid the existential terror that would otherwise overwhelm them at their fate of being utterly alone in a hostile universe. The allied Christian project of trying to figure out what the probably fictional character called Jesus “really” meant is a vain one, exactly like trying to decide what your imaginary friend “really” meant or wants you to do.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  188. @Bassarab

    Contradictions, contradictions – what would religion be without them?

    • Replies: @Bassarab
  189. Wally says:
    @niteranger

    said:
    “Why is okay for Spike Lee to say blacks should not date or marry whites but not okay for whites to say that!”

    I give interracial couples a look. Daggers. They get uncomfortable when they see me on the street.”
    — Spike Lee

    “We got to do something about these Asians coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops. They ought to go.” — Marion Barry

    Black achiever & role model Marion Barry smoking crack in a police surveillance photo in 1990

  190. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Now I’m confused. Don’t we get told enough times that communism is talmudism? And didn’t they ban The Protocols, their true M.O.? And attack the Church and Christians? But now it’s all the same: Talmudism is Christianity is Communism? So it’s JudeoChristianCommunism. Maybe we can add a few more terms there. But I can see what you’re trying to say. Christ maybe was advocating some type of proto-communism or early Christian socialism but not the talmudic Marxist-Leninism.

  191. Miro23 says:
    @mark green

    Below is the Stanley Hornbeck review of Kevin MacDonald’s ‘Culture of Critique’.

    Read it. Bookmark it. Circulate it.

    This article was what inspired me to publish my collection of articles (in book form) on the Jewish problem.

    http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/culturec.html

    Quite right. School children in the West are routinely vaccinated against infectious diseases, so, by analogy, the reading and study of this article should become part of an obligatory standard course of Western psychological vaccination.

    After reading and understanding this history, they gain protection, and can lead healthier and more productive lives.

  192. Alden says:
    @niteranger

    Do you have any more information about Charlottesville? I assumed from the first the demonstration was a false flag to attract Antifa
    If Heather Heyer hadn’t been hit by Fields car and died I’m sure the organizers would have killed someone and blamed it on the demonstrators.

    Happened in one of the very first Mexican power demonstrations. One of the Mexicans was shot and killed and it was blamed on evil racist police. No suspects were ever found.

    Another tactic leftists use is to spread stories of police brutality around the hood for a month or 2.

    Then several very respectable blacks start driving around the hood breaking every traffic law. Observers followed them. In the old days they were careful to know where every phone booth was.

    As soon as there’s a traffic stop an observer rushed to the nearest phone booth to notify the organizers.

    Driver ranting and raving more police arrive carloads of blacks arrive to rant rave throw rocks. Other organizers break store windows to start the looting.

    The riot is on. Best time to start is mid afternoon so all the rush hour commuters will see the looting and join in.

    And of course the Jew media always supports the rioters and blames the police.

    It’s so predictable.

  193. Alden says:
    @prime noticer

    His translation customers were forbidden to hire him years ago. Amren does one thing and that’s excellent. It posts articles about black on White crime. At least those articles raises consciousness among those still brainwashed about black crime

  194. Alden says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You’ve heard about libraries and the internet haven’t you? Go at it. And your ancestors were no more Irish Catholic or Protestant than George Soros or the President of Israel.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  195. Alden says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    If Taylor had arranged a contract that the word hate would not be used CNN would have used another word.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  196. Alden says:
    @Republic

    Taylor’s wife and kids are jews and she used to work for ADL. Plus, his base is southern conservatives which means Old Testament Christians.

    No one leader can do everything. UNZ and MacDonald expose Jews. CofCC and amren expose black on White crime. VDare does immigration statistics

    No one will save us. All we can do is save ourselves and our families. Check the black box when you enroll your kids in kindergarten. Normal White grades and SATs will get full scholarships to college. October senior year they’ll start getting numerous job offers.
    The interview doesn’t matter because all HR cares about us the statistics they turn into the government.

    Do what the immigrants do to evade taxes. White websites are support groups. That’s all.

  197. Alden says:
    @TTSSYF

    Black and White couples with children? Are the fathers White? I almost never see a black man with children, not even once a year. I seldom see black couples either. It’s always women with other women and men with other men and women with their fatherless children

  198. Alden says:
    @TTSSYF

    I feel the same way about Heidi and any White woman who has a black baby. But that’s what abortion is for isn’t it?

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  199. Alden says:
    @Anon

    Wasn’t Taylor raised in some normal Protestant sect?

  200. Alden says:
    @Anon

    They’re married. Or doesn’t your sect recognize marriages not preformed in your church by one of your preachers?

  201. Alden says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Wonderful post thank you.

  202. Alden says:
    @Anon000

    Another 70 year old male virgin heard from.

  203. Alden says:
    @Rosie

    As I’ve pointed out in my many dissertations in abortion and birth control, Hugh Hefner and his Playboy Foundation funded the abortion movement including Roe vs Wade. Hefner funded numerous attorneys in several states who spent their time looking for the perfect plaintiff.

    Abortion helps men escape the consequences of sex.
    Then there’s the doddering 70 year old virgins who claim that there was no birth control anywhere in the world ever ever until the pill cane on the market in 1960.

    About fat, given the average age of the men on this site, I’m sure most are afflicted with that bulging tummy that happens to men after 40.

    The impression I have of MOST of the men on this site is that they are sad old bachelors who hate women because they are too shy or ugly to approach a woman. That’s what’s their comments read like.

    About the numerous comments that women deserve to be raped because they wear whatever is currently sold in stores. Abysmal unbelievable ignorance. Normal men don’t rape women
    Rapists don’t rape women because skirts are short this year. Rapists rape women because their sex drives are abnormal, just as gays and child molesters sex drives are abnormal

    The basis of the problem is these old codgers trying to mix conservatism with White Advocacy.

    Conservatives complain about tattoos and hair
    White Advocates complain about affirmative action

    conservatives have lost on every single issue since 1956 except wages. Conservatives have advocated and worked hard to lower wages since around 1970. They’ve succeeded. Conservatives are pro capitalism Who brings in the non White immigrants ? The capitalist pigs. The capitalist pigs don’t want to exploit our labor or reduce us to slaves. They want us gone and everyone of us dead so they won’t gave to deal with decent wages, safe working conditions reasonable working hours and all the advances the proles have made.

    The way most of the codgers write about family life is so unrealistic I doubt they have children or could do the deed. Some of them don’t even know how children are conceived. Every month hundreds of comments that “ each White woman should have 4,5,6 children”. Never a mention of a man involved in the conception let alone raising the child

    If they’re going to proclaim against birth control they should at least ask Mr Google when it was invented instead of displaying their ignorance that it didn’t exist before 1960.

    • Agree: Rosie
  204. @AaronB

    Sacrifice and self-hatred amount to the same thing. The result of both is self-annihilation. The word hatred in the Bible has no emotional meaning, it simply means acting against someone.

    Christianity being against suicide is a doctrinary point that was probably meant to turn prying eyes away from the true nature of this religion. Its aspired goals could never be achieved through such blatantly direct means. A few freak historical incidents like Jim Jones are just proof that one’s real nature is bound to manifest itself on occasion.

  205. PeterMX says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    It’s not a delusion. Jews are highly represented in Finance and banking, perhaps even dominant. They dominate the media and they dominate American foreign policy as well as how the culture will develop in the future. There is a reaso9nably strong possibility Rupert Murdoch is Jewish on his mother’s side. He is as dedicated to Jews and Israel as any so called “NAZI” was to Germany. Jews have the power to make history a farce with most of the world deluded. They founded and dominated the USSR after murdering the Czar. They immediately outlawed Christianity and anti-Semitism in the country and they murdered 8 million Ukrainians in the 1930’s. While so called “NAZI” Germany had very little violence in the 1930’s, they were the only major country to denounce “Jewish Bolshevism” while Americans were lied to and told the USSR was peaceful by the Jewish controlled American media. Most of the world is still completely in the dark as to the Jewish Bolshevik controlled USSR and its ideological enemy Fascist Germany. The Jews have the power to keep the world stupid by owning the New York Times and owning and running most of the media. Winning the war allowed Jews to make todays Germans stupid about their own history. If a German contradicts the Jewish narrative, he’s put in jail. There are many in jail right now for that. The History Channel (also mocked as the “Hitler Channel”), the New York Times and Wikipedia all keep people ignorant about real history and Jews are in the process of passing laws in American states (contrary to the Constitution) that will ban “anti-Semitism” so people stay stupid and you won’t be able to say what President Vladimir Putin said in the speech below without going to jail.

    80% to 85% Of The 1st Soviet Government Members Were Jews – Putin During A Visit To Moscow’s Jewish Museum

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Genrick Yagoda
  206. TTSSYF says:
    @Alden

    Almost always it is a black man with a white woman, but does that matter? It is still voluntary miscegenation and voluntary racial suicide.

  207. TTSSYF says:
    @Rosie

    From my grandmother, many decades ago: “That first baby can come at any time. All the rest take nine months.”

    • LOL: Rosie
  208. @Alden

    You sometimes show yourself not to be as dumb as you let yourself appear. Why not recognise that I have asked people on UR to tell me where I can find a coherent account of what they think they are or have been and what they think preserving? It is obviously too a challenge to them to deal with the fact that not just American upper class WASP liberals might have a problem with discerning a White Nationalism they could embrace or even respect but that someone from another Anglophone country with many shared genes might have a similar problem.

    Your attempt to be insulting by saying that I must be Jewish and lying about my ancestey is merely pathetic and demeaning to yourself. First because it cannot possibly hurt but can only prompt contempt for someone who can make such stupid pointless comments. I would accuse you of laziness in not examining the abundant past evidence, including consistency, but that would be to take you seriously as one who is intending to manifest a modicum of gravitas and dignity.

    • Replies: @Alden
  209. @Alden

    He might have even had the wit to employ the skills of a half decent lawyer to either use generic terms to cover the field or to demand a right of veto.

  210. Commentator Mike: “Christ maybe was advocating some type of proto-communism or early Christian socialism but not the talmudic Marxist-Leninism.”

    The Spengler quote is sourced. If you want to know more, you can obtain a free copy of Hour of Decision and read it for yourself. It’s on the net. Basically, his point is that there is both Christian and non-Christian Bolshevism.

    Early Christianity was quite communistic, even by its own account.

    “Now the full number of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one said that any of the things that belonged to him was his own, but they had everything in common. 33 And with great power the apostles were giving their testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was upon them all. 34 There was not a needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold 35 and laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.”
    – Acts 4:32-35

    “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!”
    – Karl Marx, Critique of the Gotha Program

  211. Rosie says:
    @Anon000

    If not for white women we wouldn’t have easy sex through legal birth control and legal abortion giving men the option of opting out of marriage and fatherhood while also having a marriage-like relationship with no obligations or ties. And of course, these unmarried white women then became more liberal and politically active, assiduously promoting those things which will hasten their own demise. With immigration being the most destructive.

    Translation: Even when it’s men’s fault, it’s still women’s fault.

    Abortion was legalized by judicial fiat with an overwhelmingly male Supreme Court. To this day, men are more supportive of abortion rights than women. Moreover, women do not “assiduously” promote immigration. That would be greedy White males who don’t want to pay White men a decent wage for their labor.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/koch-network-to-support-dreamers-legal-status-2019-1

    • Agree: Liza
    • Replies: @Alden
  212. KenH says:
    @Rosie

    there is simply no point trying to market White advocacy to the mainstream general public while these mouth-breathing reactionary woman-haters carry on disgracing this movement.

    I don’t see it that way because there has to be a message for every faction. This is how the communists were so successful by tailoring their message to the various different factions on the left wing.

    The high minded approach by Amren is needed and fills a niche but there’s segments of racially aware whites that need something harder edged and/or something that deals with the JQ and the deplorable relations between the white sexes primarily from the Gen X and millenial white male’s point of view. Some of the criticism of white women is warranted while some of it isn’t. You can just ignore those sites if you don’t agree with them but it’s almost like you’re proposing censorship which might gain a us a few white women at the expense of a whole bunch of young men.

    Some of the women who complain about this hypocritically blame white men for everything and for not being “man enough”.

    If you’re a racially conscious white woman then just visit those sites and support those organizations that don’t criticize white women. You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water and refuse to support white advocacy simply because there’s a few pro-white sites that do criticize white women, rightly or not.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  213. Bassarab says:
    @Commentator Mike

    The atheist finds contradictions in his cereal box, yet he fails to grasp the obvious: that his whole worldview is the very thing that is contradictory.

  214. KenH says:
    @PeterMX

    Be careful wasting your time with ole (((Bardo))). His shtick seems to be denying well established facts about Jews and Jewish machinations.

  215. KenH says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    Likewise, when giving speeches, Taylor’s whole demeanor cries out ‘Mr. Nice Guy’.

    Taylor should have known better from the outset. Don’t fraternize with the enemy.

    Jared Taylor and some of his cohorts on the racialist right still long to be accepted by the establishment even though they claim to the contrary. Yet they always jump for joy and do ditties when the (((mainstream media))) or establishment emissaries come calling. Then they’re shocked when the media takes their comments out of context and/or puts words in their mouth and paints them in the worst possible light. Wash, rinse, repeat.

    Jared Taylor is not a Nazi and doesn’t wish any harm on non-whites but that doesn’t stop the (((media))) from labeling him as a suit and tie wearing Nazi and white supremacist who hates all non-whites.

    Facts don’t matter and never do but Jared naively thinks he can change their opinions if he just triples down on niceness and gentility, but it can’t and the time for niceness is long past and we’re not going to nice out way out of this mess.

  216. Agent76 says:

    Jun 29, 2019 Democrat Far Left Push Makes ‘Never Trumper’ Declare Support For Trump

    Democrat Far Left Push Makes ‘Never Trumper’ Declare Support For Trump. The Democrats are beyond losing their supporters. In one story published in the Wall Street journal a man who refused to vote for Trump in 2016 has now declared he will be supporting the president in 2020.

  217. @PeterMX

    There was a great German wartime poster that was scrubbed from the internet. It showed a beautiful young woman draped only by a banner that read ‘TIMES” looking into a mirror.

    The reflected image showed a drooping wrinkled old hag wearing a banner that read “SEMITE”.

    Say what you will about Julius Streicher but he sure was good at his work.

    Incidentally, they hanged Streicher after the war …for saying mean things about Jews, apparently.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  218. “Christ maybe was advocating some type of proto-communism or early Christian socialism but not the talmudic Marxist-Leninism.”
    The Spengler quote is sourced. If you want to know more, you can obtain a free copy of Hour of Decision and read it for yourself. It’s on the net. Basically, his point is that there is both Christian and non-Christian Bolshevism.
    Early Christianity was quite communistic, even by its own account.”

    Stop making things up. There is no demand that christians put all of their money in a pot and divide equitably amongst members — nonsense. Christians are encouraged to share what they have with others as they have need.

    But make no mistake Scripture does not endorse any manner of forced giving. The only practice that comes close is the tithe and that is a practice by all members regardless of income — but no one is going to come banging at your door if you don’t ante up.

    Tithing is a practice between a believer and God.

  219. KenH: “Facts don’t matter and never do but Jared naively thinks he can change their opinions if he just triples down on niceness and gentility, but it can’t and the time for niceness is long past and we’re not going to nice out way out of this mess.”

    Right about niceness and facts, but wrong about Taylor. His IQ is high enough to know that political organizing is a dead end, and he doesn’t seriously expect it to succeed. But there are enough morons on the right that he can get to send him donations so that he can avoid working for a living. To that end, any publicity is good publicity, and in fact, the worse he is treated the better, as when he’s unfairly treated it stirs up the morons more and then they send him even more money!

  220. Richard B says:
    @Robert Dolan

    CNN = Collapsing Narrative Network

    JT might be CO. So? It’d be easier to find someone who isn’t.
    That just limits his message, it doesn’t discredit it.

    The key point is, does his message correspond to reality or not?
    The answer obviously is “Yes, it does. But not entirely.”

    Ok, fair enough. Then, if you know that fill in the blanks yourself and make that your point.
    Instead of pointing out something we already know.

    Those trying to discredit him by calling him CO are JIDF Trolls. If not, they might as well be.

    Trolls come at people like JT from two directions, one side calls him a Nazi, the other (pretending to be on the side of Whites) calls him CO.

    For more watch Gilad Atzmon’s The Cognitive Elite of Jewish History. As is implied in the title, this deceptive practice (one of many) goes way back.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  221. EliteCommInc.: “There is no demand that christians put all of their money in a pot and divide equitably amongst members — nonsense. Christians are encouraged to share what they have with others as they have need. ”

    The enforcement provision can be found in Acts 5:1-11. There it’s recounted how God kills two people who try to keep just a small portion of their money for themselves. Hallelujah!

    You appear to be like most Christians, an ignorant ass who hasn’t read the Bible.

    • Replies: @Alden
  222. How many set-ups must a white man walk into before he becomes woke?

    The answer my friend is explained here

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/06/this-really-isnt-that-hard.html

  223. Richard B says:
    @Old North Church

    Calling us Whites is perfectly acceptable.

    Yes, European-Americans, or simply European man (since we don’t mind using the masculine form) is also acceptable. But, whether or not we’re White, we might as well be. Whether or not they are “black” they might as well be.

    I think calling Whites “European-American” or blacks “African-American” simply gives the intellectually insecure the chance to show they’re “smart” but uttering a bunch of syllables.

    It’s pretentious and corny.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  224. @Genrick Yagoda

    That cartoon can still be found on the Internet (Google Images), here :

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  225. @Richard B

    I don’t understand where this comment came from.

    I like JT and never said he was CO.

    His site is great, his books are solid.

    He cucks on the JQ, and he’s a bit naive, but he’s still a needed voice for our cause.

    The ironic thing is that even though he cucks on the JQ, the nose still claims that he is an evil nazi white supreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemist. And that always strikes me as comical since he’s about as threatening as Santa Claus.

  226. @AaronB

    Spiritual whites today, flock to the SJW banner – because it is the only thing resembling a spirituality they have in their environment.

    A fair point, and perhaps an important one if there is any hope of throwing off the yoke of cultural Marxism. Regardless of their proclaimed spiritual beliefs or lack of them, most people have within themselves some desire to serve a higher purpose than money or technology. So-called social justice is a kind of spirituality — twisted, perverted, but occupying the same place that church had for earlier generations.

    Today’s churches are lost to genuine spirituality, reeking as they do of standard-issue political correctness. A resurgent dissident Right or traditionalism must find a way to restore spirituality, maybe in new and unorthodox forms, to the public forum.

    • Agree: AaronB
  227. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:

    Why is that acceptable only for white countries?

    You hateful *, that is because your kind have always viewed everybody else’s wealth as yours for the plundering. You impoverish the South American\African\other “shitholes,” implant your Joo plague and set much of the ME on fire, then whine when their unwashed make their way into your spiritually cursed, but prosperous lands, for their tiny share of living, that your kind denied them.

    Y’all deserve what you are getting.

    Schadenfreude is sweeeet, baby!!

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  228. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Christianity is the antidote to talmudism, the opposite of jewish thought.

    Christianity is universal, while judaism is particularist.

    Christianity also deifies the Joo, as mentioned in numerous of your texts.

    Anyway, Christianity may be universal due to proselytism, but it is also just your garden variety Pagan Polytheist Mangods-worship. Don’t believe me? Just take a visit to your local place of worship and look at the idolatry there, or focus on your pagan ideology called the Trinity;

    The Trinity is the teaching that the one God of all existence, consists of three divine persons: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

    Now, consider the following similar pagan bile;

    The Trimurthi is the teaching that the one God of all existence, consists of three divine persons: the Creator (brahma), the Preserver (vishnu), the Destroyer (shiva).

    Can you see the similarities there… pagan? You like being spiritually associated to the hindoos… pagan?

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @freedom-cat
  229. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @RoatanBill

    Can you finally start using that fine IQ you got going there to climb out of the pagan cesspool, called Christianity, you dug yourselves into?

    Lol! Not a chance, right?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  230. Jared Taylor is a respectful and rational man who takes personal risk in allowing mainstream media to interview him. The coming interview on June 30th is worrisome because we all know how the Mainstream can masterfully intertwine rational viewpoints with extremism.

    So, it would be reasonable to expect that their documentary will mostly show the extremists in the movement, and then show a small clip of Jared, subtly linking him with the extremists in the minds of Americans who have problems with rational thinking (which are many). I admire Jared for his bravery but it’s hard to trust anyone from CNN.

  231. @anonymous

    This is probably the dumbest comment on the entire thread.

    Christianity deifies jews?

    No, just the opposite.

    You have never read the Bible.

    JC spends half the NT ranting about jews.

    Paul calls them the enemy of the Gospel.

    Rev. refers to them as the synagogue of satan.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  232. Vegan Shark: “Today’s churches are lost to genuine spirituality, reeking as they do of standard-issue political correctness. A resurgent dissident Right or traditionalism must find a way to restore spirituality, maybe in new and unorthodox forms, to the public forum.”

    “Political correctness” is a sect of Christianity in which the Christian belief in the so-called “brotherhood of man” is emphasized, and belief in Jesus as God has become optional. Consequently, a call to return to “genuine spirituality” in a culture dominated by political correctness is just another way of calling for return to “real” Christianity. We can know in advance that any such “genuine spirituality” will be forced to share with Christianity its racelessness and be open to all, and will exalt “love” over “hate”, just as does the original. In Current Year, those are fundamental requirements of anything desiring to be recognized as spiritual. It will therefore be no improvement from a racial POV, so what’s the point? Anyway, better to face it, Jesus ain’t comin’ back.

    Christianity was so successful in destroying all other religions in whites that no spirituality remains in them that stands outside of it. The white man has been steeped to his very bones in Christian absurdities for many centuries now. He knows no other way of being “spiritual”.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  233. geokat62 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Christianity deifies jews?…

    You have never read the Bible.

    S/he must be referring to the Scofield Reference Bible.

  234. Rosie says:
    @KenH

    . You can just ignore those sites if you don’t agree with them

    There are no pro-White sites where women are no routinely lied about and demonized. There are none who defend us.

    but it’s almost like you’re proposing censorship

    That’s exactly what I’m proposing. We don’t have time for this.

    which might gain a us a few white women at the expense of a whole bunch of young men.

    If young White men care so little for their race that they won’t sign on to the cause without a promise of 41 virgins in the ethnostate (or whatever it is they demand), then all is lost anyway. You are going to run into a hard ceiling with the anti-women approach.

    • Agree: freedom-cat
    • Replies: @Alden
  235. @anonymous

    Actually, Anonymous 290, you are not entirely correct. In fact, you are working from a Spiritual level that is on par with those who attempt to see the Bible LITERALLY.

    First off, you sound like you may be influenced by Islam? They are typically calling Christians out for “worshiping 3 Gods”, which they then define as a form of paganism.

    Here’s the truth on the Triune God: All 3 are simply aspects of the one God. Paganism is actually the same thing only many of those systems have many gods and/or have morphed into layers of lesser gods. But the over-all universal “one God” remains in tact. It’s just that the ancient people knew, just like today’s wise people, that the Universal God of all (or whatever you want to call this principle) remains a Mystery, and cannot be fully grasped by 99.99% of humanity. Many come to know it’s existence but cannot define it: “If it can be named it is not the Tao” is an accurate summary of “God”.

    When people take any of these gods for Real entities, like Osiris/Isis, Ahura Mazda/Ahriman, Baal/Astarte, etc etc, and worship them directly, they do so either with knowledge they are only aspects of the divine/duality or out of ignorance in thinking they are real entities.

    People who are ignorant are going to obviously take religious teachings literally, while a few will see the deeper meaning. I’ve always found Richard Dawkins to be quite ignorant as he attacks religion based on those who believe it literally; but he would not be able to hold up under a true master of spirituality. Laurent Guyenot laid out an excellent analysis of the Old Testament and proves that the Scribes who manipulated truth and inserted hate as the OT we know today, wrote that for their own people only, not the Gentiles, and they certainly did not believe in an after life for “Gods Chosen” but that people go on through their genealogy.

    The Trinity encapsulates the raising up of man, being born again and his resurrection (an obvious mystical journey, not meant to be a literal raising from the dead) with support of the “spirit” which is an awakening to higher truth. God, of course, is the mysterious, unknowable “father”.

  236. AaronB says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Modern liberalism, and political correctness, preaches hatred of whites – it does not preach the brotherhood of man.

    You are making a fundamental mistake.

    This is not pathological altruism, this is self hate.

    You are losing your self in distractions.

  237. TTSSYF says:
    @anonymous

    Your schadenfreude may be a little premature. As we go, so go the likes of you and other parasites.

  238. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Thank for that. Your sleuthing skills are better than mine.

  239. JT, take a lesson from the jewess Deborah Lipstadt. She coaches Jews to never debate the holocaust (a futility) rather just cry anti-Semite and walk out. It’s the same with these hate mongers. They will never honestly debate, as their premise is unsupportable. Surprisingly those who shout ‘hater’ are the same people who scream ‘anti-Semite’. it’s a tribal thing, and they’re dangerous.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  240. @Richard B

    ut uttering a bunch of syllables.

    That’s an actual thing by the way. Syllables are used in many readability calculating formulas, like the Flesch Kincaid one for instance. There are theories which suggest lower readability= higher intelligence…maybe you’re on to something

  241. AaronB: “Modern liberalism, and political correctness, preaches hatred of whites – it does not preach the brotherhood of man.”

    Nonsense. Asserting an illusionary “brotherhood of man” is the whole point of the “race does not exist” meme, which both conservatives and liberals are at pains to affirm. It’s effective in a culture shaped by Christianity, and quite helpful for civic nationalism, so that’s why it’s used. Because of Christian cultural influence, people already “know” it’s true. Also, while that meme is central, it’s far from the only part of Christian dogma that’s been repurposed. Everything found in political correctness can be justified on the basis of biblical themes, especially the mania for racial and sexual equality. Even the methods used — deplatformings, censorship, shunning (a technique extensively used by Puritans) are recycled from Christianity. During the Christian takeover of classical civilization, whole libraries were burned, and mere possession of pagan literature was made a capital offense. About 99% of Latin literature was consigned to flames, and about 90% of Greek literature. Early Christianity used methods that make the Taliban look tame by comparison. These methods included murder, and many whites who refused to convert were killed. As classics scholar Dr. Revilo Oliver wrote, a Christian is a man who always wants to rip the guts out of anyone who does not “love” everyone as much as they do.

    • Replies: @Alden
  242. Laughing as expected.

    This passage,

    “The enforcement provision can be found in Acts 5:1-11. There it’s recounted how God kills two people who try to keep just a small portion of their money for themselves. ”

    If I were you I read the passage again and note why they were killed. It has to do with maintaining an oath —– even people of faith mistake that scripture because they are thrown by the extreme nature of what took place. But it is not about the money and the passage clearly states as much.

    I was going to conclude my comment with that reference. It is not an uncommon turn by people looking to impugn church in scripture and subsequently all other practices of the faith. it was not because they did not tithe. it was not even about the tithe itself.

    I think the cause for hallelujah is that you are reading scripture. You abuse its meaning more often than not — however,

    there’s passage that reads,

    “God’s word will not return to (unto) him void.” My encouragement is that you keep reading it as often as possible. Look I have been known to get some meaning incorrect.

    So I try tread lightly. But Christ is not taking lives because people are not tithing. At least there is no indication of that in scripture. What may be happening with people in their individual walks with Christ may be another matter entirely.

  243. Frankly,

    I think the Swiss method to citizenship as originally established, as per the community right. I think the appeal process being delegated soley to a politician was a mistake.

    That makes the matter of assimilation core and meaningful.

  244. FoSquare says:
    @mark green

    Here is an excellent speech delivered by Kevin MacDonald on the war being waged against the West from the perspective of evolutionary psychology & natural selection.

  245. EliteCommInc.: “But it is not about the money and the passage clearly states as much.”

    Only in your deranged imagination.

  246. FoSquare says:
    @mark green

    The title of MacDonald’s speech is The Psychological Mechanism of White Dispossession. He backs up the title with a powerful & persuasive argument.

  247. @Rosie

    Unless you’re suggesting importing those supposed high IQ Indians and Chinese there won’t be enough of them to make up for the loss in whites. Quantity matters. As whites decrease in population, the lower IQ folks will make up an ever increasing segment of the population. They aren’t noted for their work ethic.

    • Replies: @Alden
  248. @anonymous

    I’m an atheist, anarchist, and misanthrope among other characteristics. I gave up on religion when I was 10 years old watching the Catholic priests live high on the hog while the rest of the neighborhood was pretty poor. They didn’t work, drove Mercedes and had private garages while my father worked his butt off, drove a beat up Buick and parked on the New York city street.

    I gave up on government when I was 18 and the US Fed Gov wanted to get me killed in Vietnam. I declined their draft invitation by convincing them that I was going to be a WHOLE lot more trouble than I was worth.

    So, I didn’t dig myself into anything.

  249. Laughing. This is an old debate. your not the first one that has attempted to use that passage incorrectly.

    Here’s the passage

    Berean Study Bible Par ▾
    Ananias and Sapphira

    “1Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2With his wife’s full knowledge, he kept back some of the proceeds for himself, but brought a portion and laid it at the apostles’ feet.

    3Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and withhold some of the proceeds from the land? 4Did it not belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? How could you conceive such a deed in your heart? You have not lied to men, but to God!”

    5On hearing these words, Ananias fell down and died. And great fear came over all who heard what had happened. 6Then the young men stepped forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him.

    7About three hours later his wife also came in, unaware of what had happened. 8“Tell me,” said Peter, “is this the price you and your husband got for the land?”

    “Yes,” she answered, “that is the price.”

    9“How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord?” Peter replied. “Look, the feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.”

    10At that instant she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and found her dead. So they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11And great fear came over the whole church and all who heard about these events.”

    They lied about the price and they violated an oath. That was the issue. had they said well we sold it at this price and we only want to give this much — that would have been entirely different.

    https://biblehub.com/bsb/acts/5.htm

    It’s the deception that is the issue not the tithe.

    Laughing but you keep reading, it will yield fruit in your life beyond the rotten fruit of manipulating the contents to advance your agenda.

  250. Alden says:
    @KenH

    Another sad old bachelor heard from.

    I for one don’t need to visit any conservative sites. I became racially aware 5o years ago and aware of Jewish communists even earlier as I met them as a child and became aware as a teen.

    I read MacDonald’s books long ago. There was not one word in his books or on his site that I hadn’t known since the mid 196os. Had I the energy I could have written MacDonald’s books myself and added a lot more information.

    Ignorant one, you don’t even know that Hugh Hefner’s Playboy Foundation funded pro abortion lawyers from about 1955 do you?

    And you think there was no birth control anywhere in the world until 1960 do you and so do all the other ignorant creepy old codgers in the site.

    Questions for all you ignorant ones

    In what year did the Pope declare abortion was a sin and forbade Catholics from preforming it?

    In what year was abortion criminalized in England? France? Germany? Mexico? New York State ?Ohio ? Michigan?

    None of you ignoramuses know the dates do you? Because you are ignorant of what you endlessly comment about. You morons all think abortion was a crime for thousands of years until 1973 because you are all ignorant.

    Ignore affirmative action made into law and upheld by White male representatives senators and judges

    But complain about abortion legalized by a Hugh Hefner funded law firm and the White male satanic supremes

    • Replies: @KenH
  251. Alden says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You seem to believe enlightenment propaganda about early Christians burning libraries Oh ignorant one

    Question 1. Who was the first person to set fire to the Alexandria library?
    Question 2. Who finally finished the job?
    Question 3 Who said Mankind needs just one book and that is the Koran?
    Question 4Where are the remnants of the Alexandria library?

    Answer 1. Julius Cesar cerca 50BC
    Answer 2. The Muslim Caliph cerca 900Ad
    Answer 3 The Muslim caliph cerca 900 AD
    Answer 4 The Vatican library in Rome and St Catherine’s monastery in Egypt

  252. Alden says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Like most readers of Revilo Oliver you believe his lies about Christianity.

  253. Alden says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Obviously you’ve never had a thought if your own. I don’t believe in God at all. But attacking Christianity is just plain idiotic because it won’t help Whites.

    I know your position. Dump Christianity and we can go back 3,000 years to glorious Pagan Europe. Go pretend to be a Druid and worship a tree. Or join a feminazi witch coven. Lots of fun.

  254. KenH says:
    @Alden

    Ignorant one, you don’t even know that Hugh Hefner’s Playboy Foundation funded pro abortion lawyers from about 1955 do you?

    You’re one senile old lady as I didn’t mention abortion anywhere in my post. You belong on the wacky evangelical Christian forums if every subject for you is a segue into abortion.

    Ignore affirmative action made into law and upheld by White male representatives senators and judges

    Oh sure, and don’t forget all Jewish judges on the SCOTUS that vote to uphold it as well as well as Jewish lawyers and Jewish money and Jewish media that fights to defend affirmative action.

    So every male who doesn’t see the world as you do is a “sad old bachelor”? I think it’s time you take up knitting or spend more time with your grandkids rather than disparage men because you’ve become old and bitter.

    • Replies: @Alden
  255. I just watched the whole thing. It was an imbecilic, low brow collage a la “World’s Wildest Police Chases” or “101 Best Cum Shots” of Huwhite violence supremacy lorded over by a man from the world’s most racist country (India), ably assisted by the highly credible sow from SPLC Bank and Trust, Llc. Cayman Island and some self-hating Huwhite doofus from Columbia University. And plenty of factual misstatements that I’ll leave to others to enumerate.

    And Mr. Taylor was photo collaged front and center as hub central of it all.

  256. “Another sad old bachelor heard from.”

    As a bachelor let me say being unattractive and sad takes a lot of hard work. And for the record the feminists have run amock on the lives of some very relationally active men ahem . . . married and single. And what they have advanced to social maintenance and family is simply not impacted by my bachelorhood or ugliness. Your lumping a series of nonsequitors as though the answer to any of those questions actually matters. I have no idea what the price of tea is in china, that does not disqualify me from a discussion on tarrifs or trade or the impact of outsourcing or the the impact of foreign imports.

    And a word, neither the catholic Church nor the Pope is an arbitor for all people of faith. And I have no idea what that has to do with murdering children in the womb. That’s akin to saying unless I know the date of the first child murder, I am simply out of the loop on the subject.

    It is true that the issue of murderiung children in the womb has a varient history. I don’t have to know the story of Aztec or Inca child sacrifice to consider the matter abhorant. And more abhorant today than then as the sacrifices here are purely selfish and mundane. Whether someone is a person of faith or not — murdering children in the womb ought to be opposed as any society willing to murder children for convenience is certainly a society destined to deteriorate from the decay of fundamental respect for the lives of the innocent. When Caine murdered his brother is simply not at issue and inconsequential. And in most societies it was rejected as a solution, though certainly that varied — but its value to today is short save for this: loopholing the reason for murdering children.

    “Aha . . . they did it ten thousand years ago.” The reason the matter became law or a question of edicts is that it has been almost unheard of that anyone would openly advocate for it. And that is the turn around of your posit. It actually reflects erosion of human decency to the point that someone actually had to pin the note of people’s lapels —

    “If pregnant don’t murder the child.”

    The fact that you seem to place a heavy toll on the matter suggests that you don’t understand how laws become laws.

    When a child comes home late . . .

    Mom and dad say —

    “Hey, your home late.”

    Child,

    “You never said I had to be home before midnight.”

    Parents,

    “The fact that we have to means you are to be home at seven. As it should be fully realized our family expectations. I suppose I have to ask you if you did your homework as well. And for the record that is 7PM not 7AM — just in case there is any doubt.”

    I bet you a single MM, there’s not ten parents out there who know when the first parent set curfews. By your estimation, they are barred from any such discussion because they don’t —

    Uhhhh nonsense.

    My being single, ugly, poor is certainly cause to be rejected by women — but it certainly is not a barrier to discuss agendas regarding male female relations or the murder of children in the womb. Here’s what i do know that thousands of ugly single impoverished men have stood in the gap for the women in this country against their stead and as citizens on the country entitled to shape it as you have and they don’t have to have a clue when the declaration of independence was signed or why Pres. Lincoln did not launch a war to free slaves or when the first Playboy magazine hit the shelf.

    — Say it loud, “I’m ugly and proud.”

    You know that sounded better in my head.

  257. KenH says:

    Just watched “The State of Hate” which was mostly a farrago of misinformation and lies of omission. Such as claiming that OKC bomber Timothy McVeigh was a KKK member when he never was and any relationship that may have existed was tangential. McVeigh cavorted with many dissident right groups, most of whom were non-racial and simply patriot and anti-government oriented groups.

    Then CNN’s experts claimed that race and whiteness is “scientifically murky” yet curiously it stops being murky when whites do bad things to non-whites and it wasn’t murky when Fareed Zakaria attacked and judged the Covington kids strictly by their race. Nor is it scientifically murky in the case of reparations for blacks and affirmative action for blacks and other non-whites.

    When it comes to racial grievance mongering race gets unmurky in a hurry and clear racial categories exist that get used against whitey.

    You had the piranha mouthed Indian, Zakaria, trying to convince a skeptical Jared Taylor that he is an Aryan superman since India was the ancient home to Aryans. Will Zakaria be invited as a guest speaker at the next Amren conference? Only Jared knows the answer.

    Muslim representative Rashida Tlaib, voice cracking and eyes moistening, read a letter from a wicked white person celebrating the Christchurch mosque massacre. Deplorable because we know Muslims never kill innocent people or celebrate the killing of non-Muslims.

    SPLC centerfold (((Heidi Beirich))) made a cameo to enlighten the viewing audience on why white pepo who don’t hate themselves do the things they do. It was very edifying.

    Watching “The State of Hate” the takeaway is that only white people are haters and capable of hating. The hearts of non-whites are filled with love, joy, acceptance and tolerance. The flooding of white nations with non-whites is just a natural phenomenon that whites are just going to have to accept and if you don’t then Rashida Tlaib and AOC are crafting legislation to throw you into a gulag.

  258. EliteCommInc.: “They lied about the price and they violated an oath. That was the issue. had they said well we sold it at this price and we only want to give this much — that would have been entirely different. ”

    That’s your twisted interpretation, made with the motive of obscuring the obvious. But the question is, why would they lie about it if they thought it would be perfectly okay not to give the full amount demanded Peter, one which everyone else gave according to the passage previously cited? Answer: Because it really was about the money. They feared the consequences of withholding even a small portion of their own money from the early Christian commissars — who were Jews like Peter and the rest of the apostles, by the way, just like so many of the latter-day commissars in the workers’ paradise.

    We can also be sure that this lesson wasn’t lost on other early Christians. Keep the collection plate full, goyim, on pain of death!

    Alden: “Like most readers of Revilo Oliver you believe his lies about Christianity.”

    Well, who ya gonna believe? A bona fide classics scholar and professor of classics at the U of Chicago, proficient in both Latin and Greek, or some anonymous internet ignoramus who will twist himself into a pretzel to avoid making rabbi Jesus look bad? Besides, plenty of other scholars confirm Christian hostility to pagan books, and their book burnings — Carrier, Nixey, Deschner, etc. Even a pro-Christian scholar like O’Neill admits that a Christian mob eventually tore the temple in which the Alexandria library was housed down in 391 AD. He just claims it wasn’t burned, and/or had no books by that time. But these claims are plainly false, contradicted by contemporaneous accounts by people who were on the scene, while even Christians such as Tertullian and John Chrysostom admit it still housed a library.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  259. AndrewR says:

    That photo of Mr. Taylor is what: 15, 20 years old? Sad! Embrace your old age, Jared.

  260. Alden: “Obviously you’ve never had a thought if your own.”

    Oh, obviously.

    Alden: “I don’t believe in God at all.”

    Even a blind pig finds an acorn occasionally.

    Alden: “But attacking Christianity is just plain idiotic because it won’t help Whites.”

    It’s a start for them to know the reason for their racial collapse; at least, part of it. It’s always helpful to know the truth, even if it’s painful.

    • Replies: @Alden
  261. “But the question is, why would they lie about it if they thought it would be perfectly okay not to give the full amount demanded Peter, one which everyone else gave according to the passage previously cited? Answer: Because it really was about the money. They feared the consequences of withholding even a small portion of their own money from the early Christian commissars — who were Jews like Peter and the rest of the apostles, by the way, just like so many of the latter-day commissars in the workers’ paradise.”

    Stop being silly. There’s nothing obscure what transpired, no hidden messages. The matter spells itself out clearly. Laughing. It was about money to the husband and wife. But the issue is that they felt the need to lie and they didn’t. No one was forcing them to sell their property. They did so on their own. They could have decided to keep every penny. But for some reason they chose to sell the land, offer some manner of the price, withheld some portion and then lied about the actual price they sold the property for.

    Hence the issue of the deception, not the gift.

    Laughing. ohh I see you want some scholarly references: I suggest you take a look at what the reference I provided consists of and who contributed to its rendering. right down your alley.

    I have considered listing the thousands of Bible scholars who are steeped in the ancient languages and texts, the anthropology, sociology and history surrounding the the same regarding text and context. But that wouldn’t satisfy you. You routinely take the simplest straight forward references — stated in content the same across multiple bible versions and make something untoward be the central meaning — despite the scripture in all varying versions contradicting you. Let’s just say this, if you care to provide the scholarly work that indicates that the passage in question is about two people being killed because they didn’t give it up as opposed to lying about — you are welcome to present the material. But clearly thousands that have studied the matter in latin, greek, aramaic hebrew and latin have made it quite clear throughout multiple versions the issue was the hypocrisy regarding what they claimed being the case simply was not. And beyond that something about the nature of the lack of character, not their lack of money.

    As to your rhetorical construction abuse — there have been people who have used scripture to con people pf their money — that would be accurate. but that has nothing to do with what is happening in the referenced scripture. And such behavior is not supported in scripture as it amounts to theft and lying — there’s that issue of deception again.

    Interesting and consistent.

    But I still think its great you are willing to dive into the “word.”

  262. @Jefferson Temple

    There are 1 minute snippets on cnn.com. The gist of the program is that any expression of White resistance to being flooded with mass 3rd World immigration is part of the same ultra violent mindset that led to the 1995 OKC bombing, or to the Klan.
    CNN wants Whites to become disempowered minorities in their homelands – I conclude this based on their narrative framing habits & their deplatforming of all immigration restrictionists.
    It should be 110% obvious that they won’t give the Dissident Right a fair hearing. Jared needs to heed the advice of his weekly podcast partner Paul Kersey: Don’t assume innocent or well meaning motives on the part of the Legacy Media. They are almost all bad apples who seek to deceive & propagandize. They don’t just despise pre-1965 America, they hate even pre-1990 America.

    • Replies: @Bolteric
  263. “As to your rhetorical construction abuse — there have been people who have used scripture to con people pf their money — that would be accurate. but that has nothing to do with what is happening in the referenced scripture.”

    Having been pressured into selling their property, they held a little of the money back and lied about it because they were afraid to do otherwise. This is clear to anyone with a knowledge of human nature who reads the passage with an open mind. Similar things have happened in modern Christian cults too. They bleed their members dry and leave them penniless as a means of controlling them. Jim Jones in Guyana comes to mind, and David Koresh in Waco.

    Anyone with even a modicum of decency should feel sorry for this couple. They were foolish enough to join a cult headed by lunatic Jews, and were afraid to leave. They didn’t want to be left penniless, but on the other hand, as cult members, they felt obligated to give up almost everything, and did so. It wasn’t enough, and they were killed because of it. At least, that’s the story anyway … a lesson for the rest of the sheep.

  264. Thomm says:
    @BengaliCanadianDude

    The caucasoid element comprises the vast majority

    I am not so sure. This appears to be true only for the Northwestern 20% of the Subcontinent (much of which is Pakistan). These people seem to be Persian or Greek in appearance.

    The other 80% of the Subcontinent seems to be 50-80% Australoid. The small stature and unattractive facial features of people in this other 80% of the Subcontinent would seem to corroborate this.

    The average women in Iran would easily be a top-5% beauty in Bangladesh or India.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  265. Thomm says:

    Jared Taylor is to White Trashionalists what Thomas Sowell is to blacks.

    Each comprise the smartest 0.0001% of their group.

    • Disagree: TTSSYF
  266. vinteuil says:

    I see that National Merit Semi-finalist (®) Vox Day is now denouncing Jared Taylor as “stupid, naive…attention-seeking” and an “idiotic narcissist,” for having granted this interview.

    Was any man ever born of woman so completely lacking in a sense of irony as VD?

    He goes on: “This sort of thing is precisely why I don’t do interviews with anyone anymore. I learned my lesson after that Sad Puppies interview with Wired in 2015. No more interviews, period. Not with CNN, not with YouTubers…”

    How soon we forget:

  267. @KenH

    The collage graphic format of this shit show seems to have been inspired by the double album cover of the Rolling Stones “Exile On Main Street” (with some motion picture stuff thrown in for good measure–regular CNN viewers have to see repeated popcorn action nowadays to get their synapses a snappin’)

    https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-story-behind-the-rolling-stones-exile-on-main-street-album-artwork

    But hey it was on the cheap in terms of production costs.

  268. “Having been pressured into selling their property, they held a little of the money back and lied about it because they were afraid to do otherwise.”

    There’s not a lick of evidence they were pressured. This morning I had to make a very tough decision. I recently invested a modest some of money to join the Chamber of Palm Springs, to restart my pursuit to extend or renew my business opportunities. I know that Palm Springs is a liberal “very liberal” place according to the rep. Nonetheless I like Palm Springs. But as I was checking the venue for their weekly luncheons I discovered it that my first attendance would be at a gay resort. Uhhhh oops, I cannot attend any such establishment as it supports behavior I cannot. Thinking it was a one off as they probably have luncheons at various locations to support the community I checked further and much to my disappointment, the primary networking mechanism is held at the same resort —- despite the pressure to demonstrate my non-bigotry as well as the awkwardness of having to request a refund for my withdrawal from the chamber — nonetheless, given the venue as routine — I must reject membership. Now there is not requirement to attend said functions, but as a member a new member, there is a great deal of pressure to support the organization , the community and get my monies worth on investment. But that pressure is part of the normative one experiences internally. There may even be some pressure to be brave on my part and suffer the matter. Be a man and that kind of thing. And no doubt that the couple felt that pressure to conform to said community – natural and normal. However, you have hit the salient point, in lieu of even one’s own pressure and outside pressure deception is simply not an ethic that can be condoned. It doesn’t matter what pressure I am under, I have a choice to operate with integrity – even if others think I am being a cheap skate or anti-community.

    There was no coersion here. There is not indication that anyone was forced against a condemned soul or anything to else to participate in selling off whatever to support the congregation. Again I have no doubt that people might have felt pressure be a part of the community and in the case of the couple, it appears that even that may have been for “show” as they lied about how much sold in order to promote themselves as members —

    I had a good laugh at myself last night having rushed to get my temp business cards ready for today only to discover, whatever the pressures I cannot attend such a venue and therefore must drop from the chamber.

    There is always pressure to conform — but integrity to avoid deception remains in play.
    ———————–

    The fact that people who are christians do dumb, hurtful, mean spirited and deceiptful things is not a reflection of scripture, but of the ever present struggle in the human heart. So I get your personal angst about christians erring. Sure that is accurate. But Christ doesn’t condone or promote any such behavior or intent.

    But none of that has any relevance to why you don’t have a relationship with Christ. That’s about them or me and each stands in relation to christ as individuals — using lousy examples of Christ’s reflection has no impact on our choice to reject Christ. Someone of your knowledge base doesn’t want to stand before Christ and blame me for your rejection or the examples of said beghavior in scripture.

    No christian is pressuring you to lie about a land deal.

  269. ” They bleed their members dry and leave them penniless as a means of controlling them. Jim Jones in Guyana comes to mind, and David Koresh in Waco.”

    Again, there’s a lot of assumption here. There is absolutely no indication that this couple sold their only slice of property. For all we know this might have been one parcel out of a bevy of parcels generating income. In fact, if one is going to add in some aspect, it is more likely that they were wealthy and their sale was one of appearance hence the greater consequence. But unless I missed something there’s not a hint the couple was impoverished by the sale.

    Scripture cannot be the cause for people’s abusing the same whether in good intention or nefarious intent. I think you are correct to note that even christians should be careful to whom they lend their support. That makes perfect sense. And scripture makes the very same admonitions — about what a “true ” shepherd does. That you care deeply about people’s well being is commendable. But neither Mr. Jim Jones nor Mr. David Koresh can be held accountable for my choices. Save for that unsavory business with the poison alixer — when people were physically coerced.

    But that has nothing to do with a scriptural instruction.

    Furthermore the level of church aid across the globe is well documented. In that the US congregations lead the way by my last read.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  270. “Thomas Sowell is to blacks.”

    I could be wrong. While many blacks disagree with Dr Sowell, they respect his intelligence and positions — I am unaware but the most extreme noting him as any form or trash.

    I guess one would need to survey the black population.

  271. Rosie says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    That’s your twisted interpretation, made with the motive of obscuring the obvious.

    Even if that were true (I don’t know if it is or not), only obsessive anti-Christians like you care about it.

    You assume that what defines a religion is the surface, literal interpretation of every joy and title of scripture. This assumption is unwarranted. Indeed, it is needlessly destructive. Anyone who refuses to throw out the baby with the bathwater is inauthentic according to your very anti traditional view.

  272. Rosie says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    For all we know this might have been one parcel out of a bevy of parcels generating income. In fact, if one is going to add in some aspect, it is more likely that they were wealthy and their sale was one of appearance hence the greater consequence.

    This is a perfectly defensible interpretation IMO. The grave sin was to make a show of generosity while holding back, i.e. hypocrisy, consistently hated and denounced throughout the New Testament.

  273. @Thomm

    he average women in Iran would easily be a top-5% beauty in Bangladesh or India.

    Perhaps so.

    50-80% Australoid

    Wrong,. Lindsay(whatever you think of him) did a piece on this. They are predominantly Caucasoid. ugly or not.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  274. anon[360] • Disclaimer says:

    MSM – No Country for Gentlemen, Mr. Taylor.

  275. nagraja says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Like the Black Hebrew Israelites shout out from the streets of every major US city – Esau is doomed.

  276. EliteCommInc.: “There is absolutely no indication that this couple sold their only slice of property. For all we know this might have been one parcel out of a bevy of parcels generating income. In fact, if one is going to add in some aspect, it is more likely that they were wealthy and their sale was one of appearance hence the greater consequence. But unless I missed something there’s not a hint the couple was impoverished by the sale.”

    It appears you’ve forgotten the setup to the murders. It was previously stated in Acts 4 that nobody in this cult had any property of their own, but held everything in common. In other words, it operated like a typical cult, using such techniques to brainwash and control its members, much like Koresh or Jones did. Leaving members with no private money or means of support ensures they won’t leave, and helps enforce obedience. Now you’ve invented this whole story about their being wealthy to excuse your psychopathic God’s action in killing these two people. It’s all quite pathetic, really. Your desperation is showing.

    Though we must have some sympathy here for the couple, lets also keep in mind that like rest of the stories in the Bible, it’s just fiction; a lie. The true victims were the real-life cult members this story was meant to intimidate; i.e., the non-Jew suckers who became Christians and were swindled by these criminal Jews Peter, Paul, and the rest. Christianity in the ancient world was a death cult that grew like a cancer until it murdered not just two people, but a whole civilization. It caused millions to suffer and die, and will certainly do so again if it’s allowed to.

  277. On the6 road. I will get to it

  278. Rogue says:

    Just listening to this CNN bollox.

    The street-shitter interrupts after every 2 or 3 seconds of Jared trying to make a point or legitimately respond.

    Typical MSM bullshit from either the USA or UK. I know.

    I’m a big fan of Jared Taylor but I wish he’d stipulated that he be allowed a minimum of at least a one minute response before typical hostile interjection after each question.

    Maybe something to think about in the future …

    • Replies: @Rogue
  279. Rosie says:

    Is it time to talk about disenfranchising men for “assiduously” promoting immigration of Asian scab labor?

    https://spectator.us/fairness-high-skilled-immigrants-act-unfair/

  280. anon[203] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    It’s almost as if whites cannot escape this certain framework of assumptions, nor clearly see them.

    Care to enlighten us?

  281. BlackFlag says:

    Good thing JT recorded and uploaded the full debate.

    Has 18k views.

    Anyone know who could add some graphics and video to it to make it more digestible to normies with short attention spans?

    JT can make a poll on whether giving interviews to cynical news media sources is worthwhile.

  282. Rogue says:
    @Rogue

    Nothing specific against Dot Indians, but it grates to see an immigrant, who doesn’t even have an American accent, lecturing a thoroughly normal citizen about their “wrong” views on immigration and race.

    As for utter crap such as “race is just a social construct”, or words to that effect, anything that flies in the face of day to day common sense is just rubbish.

    All races are inherently equal, though clearly not of the same ability – and diversity is good – but not in the same country.

    How much more evidence is required to see the folly of multiculturalism in the West?

  283. Thomm says:
    @BengaliCanadianDude

    They are predominantly Caucasoid. ugly or not.

    Then how does one account for the very dark skin of some rural Indians (and not just in South India)? It is hard to believe that they are over 20% Caucasoid.

    Also, if they are predominantly Caucasoid, will the average IQ of India rise? I always suspected that the ’82’ number bandied about around here is not accurate nor is it some permanent decree.

    You should educate this site, since the widely held position here is quite the opposite of what you are saying. Hell, these idiots say that I am an Indian, merely for pointing out that ’82’ seems rather low in the face of other evidence. They similarly say Iran’s average IQ is just 84, etc.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  284. Bolteric says:
    @CrunchybutRealistCon

    Interesting. I found the biggest shift in my life of 40+ years to be in the early 90s. It was beginning about then when it was formally established that it was uncool to be white.

    I try not think about this stuff, but I like checking in with Unz.com every once in a while. I try to enjoy being with my children, who are white. I almost never watch the news, but my wife will occasionally have Dateline or the local news on. I try to avoid self-hating-white entertainment. I do a pretty good job and I’m the happier for it. I am also glad to be aware of how bad it is in the media, so as to steer clear. I know many still consume it and are foolishly influenced by it, some to the extent that they don’t reproduce. I choose my conversations carefully, which of course Mr. Taylor could have done. But something might have been gained here, despite CNN’s propaganda. Zakaria had the weaker argument and was not able to change my thoughts on the subject much. Taylor’s rhetorical questions went unanswered, as usual.

    I wonder when Mr. Taylor will open a Revisionist line of essays and address the Holocaust, or Holo-hoax.

  285. ” It was previously stated in Acts 4 that nobody in this cult had any property of their own, but held everything in common. In other words, it operated like a typical cult, using such techniques to brainwash and control its members, much like Koresh or Jones did. Leaving members with no private money or means of support ensures they won’t leave, and helps enforce obedience. Now you’ve invented this whole story about their being wealthy to excuse your psychopathic God’s action in killing these two people. It’s all quite pathetic, really. Your desperation is showing.”

    That is not what the scripture says at all.

    no one was threatened to do anything to anyone or else . . ./ here’s the passage

    “The Believers Share Their Possessions

    32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.

    36 Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”), 37 sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet.”

    All volunteered to share and from time to time people sold their possessions —– if it was voluntary and it was, if it was from time to time and it was, your entire case falls apart and since that is exactly what the previous section states —- your mangled version is completely contradicted by the very reference you lean on for support.

    No one is held at gun point. No one is coerced. No one is guilted into anything. What you claim as some manner of communism is totally rebutted by the passage in which members owned property and on occasion some would sell a parcel and give the proceeds to the church not to redistribute to everyone — but to those who had need.

    A far cry from communist practice and nothing even similar to what occurred at Waco or Jonestown.

    Now let’s be clear you made the references and those references in scripture contradict your narrative. And my comments about the potential wealth of the couple in question remains just as viable now as when I first made reference to that possibility.

    But do keep reading — though you might want to be careful about your own agendas when reading.

  286. Berean Study Bible Par ▾

    Peter and John Before the Council

    [MORE]

    1While Peter and John were speaking to the people, the priests and the captain of the temple guard and the Sadducees came up to them, 2greatly disturbed that they were teaching the people and proclaiming in Jesus the resurrection of the dead. 3They seized Peter and John, and because it was already evening, they put them in custody until the next day. 4But many who heard the message believed, and the number of men grew to about five thousand.

    5The next day the rulers, elders, and scribes assembled in Jerusalem, 6along with Annas the high priest, Caiaphas, John, Alexander, and many others from the high priest’s family. 7They had Peter and John brought in and began to question them: “By what power or what name did you do this?”

    8Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers and elders of the people! 9If we are being examined today about a kind service to a man who was lame, to determine how he was healed, 10then let this be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. 11He is

    ‘the stone you builders rejected,

    which has become the cornerstone.’a

    12Salvation exists in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”

    The Name Forbidden

    13When they saw the boldness of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they marveled and took note that these men had been with Jesus. 14And seeing the man who had been healed standing there with them, they had nothing to say in response. 15So they ordered them to leave the Sanhedrin and then conferred together.

    16“What shall we do with these men?” they asked. “It is clear to everyone living in Jerusalem that a remarkable miracle has occurred through them, and we cannot deny it. 17But to keep this message from spreading any further among the people, we must warn them to speak no more in this name.”

    18Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19But Peter and John replied, “Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God’s sight to listen to you rather than God. 20For we cannot stop speaking about what we have seen and heard.”

    21So the Council members threatened them further and let them go. They could not find a way to punish them, because all the people were glorifying God for what had happened. 22For the man who was miraculously healed was over forty years old.

    The Believers’ Prayer
    (Psalm 2:1-12)

    23On their release, Peter and John returned to their own people and reported everything that the chief priests and elders had said to them. 24When the believers heard this, they lifted up their voices to God with one accord. “Sovereign Lord,” they said, “You made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them. 25You spoke by the Holy Spirit through the mouth of Your servant,b our father David:

    ‘Why do the nations rage

    and the peoples plot in vain?

    26The kings of the earth take their stand

    and the rulers gather together

    against the Lord

    and against His Anointed One.’c

    27In fact, in this very city Herod and Pontius Pilate conspired with the Gentiles and the people of Israel against Your holy servant Jesus, whom You anointed. 28They carried out what Your hand and will had decided beforehand would happen. 29And now, Lord, consider their threats, and enable Your servants to speak Your word with complete boldness, 30as You stretch out Your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of Your holy servant Jesus.”

    31After they had prayed, their meeting place was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly.

    Sharing among Believers
    (Acts 2:42-47)

    32The multitude of believers was one in heart and soul. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they owned. 33With great power, the apostles continued to give their testimony about the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And abundant grace was upon them all.

    34There were no needy ones among them, because those who owned lands or houses would sell their property, bring the proceeds from the sales, 35and lay them at the apostles’ feet for distribution to anyone as he had need.

    36Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (meaning Son of Encouragement), 37sold a field he owned, brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.

    https://biblehub.com/bsb/acts/4.htm

  287. @AaronB

    I’m inclined to agree with you on this.

    Christianity works well alongside white people’s mentalities. It’s quite possible to be loving, generous and caring without being a total cuck and inviting the entire world in via open borders.

    In church (non cucked ones), the white people do have a high degree of self respect. In church, you feel the spirit and understand why the WASP nation was so excellent.

    Christian morality is extremely dangerous when its adherents are secular. When it is confined to a biblical sense they can be very powerful.

    I believe Christianity is complementary to white brains. Together the 2 are very strong. Alone, though, Christianity doesn’t appear to be any better than Islam (Haiti vs. UAE), and white people alone seem to be pathetic, depressed sloths.

    Whites need Christ.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  288. EliteCommInc. : ” … your mangled version is completely contradicted by the very reference you lean on for support.”

    You’ve got a variant translation. My version is the same as the King James version, considered authoritative by most, in which the phrase “from time to time” does not appear. Even if it did though, it doesn’t change anything, as even your version states they held everything in common, didn’t regard themselves as having any private property, and shared everything they had. What part of “everything” don’t you understand? And why should it matter if they sold the properties piecemeal instead of all at once? Like I said, you’re desperate, and it’s pathetic. Anyway, here’s the original Greek (Stephanus 1550). See if you can find “from time to time” in it. I don’t see it.

    34 ουδε γαρ ενδεης τις υπηρχεν εν αυτοις οσοι γαρ κτητορες χωριων η οικιων υπηρχον πωλουντες εφερον τας τιμας των πιπρασκομενων

    No private property, “everything” distributed by a central committee of Jews — sounds like communism to me.

  289. @AaronB

    Agreed.

    I go to quite a conservative church, in perhaps a unique area in the country in that it still has a strong Christian community underpinning.

    Many of the white people at the church bother me because they are literally SJWs. I always think – man, if these people were in any other city or circumstance, they be massive anti white freaks, parading around in LGBT outfits. Same brain type.

    But you can see that conservative Christianity provides them with a much healthier outlet. Sure, they’re still losers but at least they strive to be better people. They strive to educate people about the Gospel and fight for Christ. These people are annoying but at least they can sink their teeth into something that’s not destructive civilizationally (and are surely much happier doing these types of activities).

    The real men make the real decisions anyways. These people are not allowed to rise in the ranks but they serve a purpose.

    In Toronto: radical antifa anti white
    In UFO town: slightly annoying do gooder and overly enthusiastic Gospel spreader.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  290. Alden says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Our racial collapse in America occurred between 1956 (Brown) and 1973 (Griggs). and it had nothing to do with Christianity

    In the north the neighborhood catholic parish schools saved many White children from the results of Brown. In the south, the Protestant Christians quickly set up Protestant Christian schools that saved many White children from the results of Brown.

    Those schools alone are examples of how Christianity helped when the federal government was force marching our children into schools where the animals could and did beat rob and harass White children for 13 years.
    Plus the noise of the animals continual screeching.

    Enjoy neo paganism and fantasies of ancient warriors. But don’t try to convert me.

  291. AaronB says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Christianity works well alongside white people’s mentalities. It’s quite possible to be loving, generous and caring without being a total cuck and inviting the entire world in via open borders.

    Its not just possible.

    Being loving and caring is actually a precondition for not being a total cuck.

    Let me direct your attention to some strange facts –

    The West accepts “survival of the fittest” as its philosophy. Shortly after, it loses the capacity for self-interest.

    Weird? What do you think?

    Before that, the West espoused “love” as its philosophy, and shows a robust capacity for self-interest.

    Weird?

    The West loses its capacity for self interest after it develops a-moral philosophies – capitalism, Darwinism, and industrialism.

    Cultures which retain morality at the center of their philosophy continue to demonstrate robust capacities for self-interest.

    Christian morality is extremely dangerous when its adherents are secular. When it is confined to a biblical sense they can be very powerfu

    Agreed.

    Rip any idea out of its proper context, and it becomes something else.

    God and the world to come are necessary parts of Christian morality.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Sean McBride
    , @Anon
  292. AaronB says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I think people have a hunger for spirituality and morality, and if you don’t give them authentic versions, they’ll turn to destructive versions.

    One of the problems with the alt right, and why it isn’t gaining traction, is that it sees the destructive version of morality practiced by SJWs and the like and instead of offering authentic versions, celebrates vicious amorality as a counterpoint.

    Vox Day is a good example – he sees the horror of SJW, and responds by being even more viciously amoral. But this doesn’t answer the need of our time.

    In other words, the response to insane and unbalanced moralism (SJW) is balanced moralism – not vicious amoralism, as the alt right offers.

    You need mature and balanced men who are not “reactive” – they don’t merely “react” to SJW by going to the opposite extreme, like Vox Day.

    But genuine moral leaders of stature have not arisen yet among whites, and even the best among you are still enfeebled by Enlightenment thinking.

  293. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    And the reason is, because when you are moral you respect yourself.

    If your civilizations claim to fame is “survival of the fittest”, and then bases itself on it, it will gradually lose self respect.

    Anyways, the point isn’t to “condemn” the West – the West simply made a wrong turn and can regain its self respect by returning to right living again.

    You can’t change the past, but you can choose to return to God, morality, and Christianity.

  294. Alden says:
    @KenH

    Well, well, you guys can sure dish it out, every week you men post hundreds of comments that display your hatred of women,and perverted interest in young women and teens . There hundreds of comments every week blaming White women for affirmative action, endless non White immigration soft on crime court rulings and everything else.

    But one of the very few women fights back you can’t take it. White men made every single law and court ruling detrimental to Whites and laid the foundation to destroy of in just 23 years. White men all.

    And the ignorant White men in this site blame White women

    So I’ll post it again.

    1956 Brown de segregating schools White male judges issued that order

    1964 civil rights act White men voted for that law

    I965 immigration act White men voted for that law

    1968 affirmative action act White men voted for that law Although there were about 12-15 women Congress critters at the time.

    1970, a White man Richard Nixon creates the Hispanic race by executive order. His order also gives affirmative action privilege to the entire population of Latin America.

    1973 Griggs stretched affirmative action from the 1968 definition of : hire a qualified black instead of an equally qualified White, to hire unqualified blacks over the best qualified White.
    Whit male judges issued that order

    1973 after 17 years of intensive lobbying and propaganda, and funding of law firms by Hugh Hefner’s Playboy Foundation White male judges issued the order to legalize abortion

    1979 Kaiser stretched affirmative action even further by ending reasonable testing for employment White male judges issued that order

    That’s what White men did to the White race in America. In just 23 years, the White male leadership destroyed the White race and we’ll never recover.

    And every week the men on this site rant and rave about White women and tattoos fat pink hair current fashions but never mention that White men are fat, have tattoos and unusual hair styles

    I know the difference between White advocacy /nationalism and conservative fuddyduddyism

    Many of the men on this site don’t.

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @HallParvey
  295. Alden: “Our racial collapse in America occurred between 1956 (Brown) and 1973 (Griggs). and it had nothing to do with Christianity”

    No. Start at the Civil War, immediately after which the Constitution was amended to make negroes citizens and give them the vote. Christian abolitionists were instrumental in starting the war. Christian morality guided whites in making negroes citizens and giving them the vote. All that has happened after that was just a matter of living up to the letter of the law.

  296. Alden says:
    @AaronB

    Sorry but, I’ve been researching the forces against Whites since Griggs 1973. Billions of dollars were spent by the great foundations organized Jewry chamber of commerce national association of manufacturers farmers associations and most of all the federal and state governments and governments of most of the big cities.

    Whites can’t compete with the financial resources of Ford Rockefeller Tides Woods SPLC ACLU and thousands of non profit charitable educational foundations that have poured billions into the destruction of White Americans since the end of WW2.

    George Soros and his open society foundation is just the latest example. Who do you think pays the costs of Antifa BLM and even that pussy hat demo during Trumps inauguration?

    Those billions funded the law suits that ordered affirmative action , welfare for illegal aliens and all but legalized black crimes.

    I don’t think religion or living individual moral and virtuous live will help us.

    The Christian religions use their power and money to work against us as much as the rest of the elite.
    For instance, early 1970s, the Presbyterians a very large prestige Protestant denomination donated a million dollars a lot of money in those days to the defense of Angels Davis and other blacks who murdered 11 people, including a judge in his court room during the Marin County shoot out.

    A few years later the official Catholic bishops association issued a statement endorsing and approving affirmative action. At the time there were few Hispanics in the country. Blacks were the beneficiaries. Almost all blacks were Protestant and almost all Catholics were White at the time.

    The Lutherans were in deep financial trouble until they discovered the refugee racket. For 30 years the Lutherans main financial support is being paid by the federal government to bring primitive African Muslims to the upper Midwest.

    The Episcopal church is just another gay advocacy group. Last year gay bishops married to gay men. Next year men to women transgender bishops.

    Baptists divide their time between lobbying for Israel, importing Haitian babies and doing free home repairs and remodeling for blacks too lazy to do it for themselves.. Actually, since black men. don’t live with their baby mommas it’s White Baptist men doing repairs for black women and their fatherless children.

    The Armenian Greek and Russian churches have stayed out of racial politics. But they are a tiny group. And since they don’t get the refugee and other do gooder money, but rely in school fees and donations from the faithful they are powerless in the face of the vast religious non profit sector that’s growing and growing.

    Example a 1950 Catholic Church in a wealthy White neighborhood made its expenses from donations of prosperous White Catholics

    Neighborhood changed by 1990 was a poor Hispanic largely illegal neighborhood Did the parish church suffer financially. Not all all Set up various free day care counseling coordinating analyzing advising refugee resettlement and advocating non profits and the government grant money comes pouring in just like the Lutherans.

    That’s American Christianity.

    Maybe a Mohammed or Sts Peter and Paul or John Wesley or Calvin could help Whites but I don’t think any will come along.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @BlackFlag
  297. Alden says:
    @KenH

    AOC claims the border patrol officers offended her with sexual gazes when she was grandstanding around the gates of the detention centers.

    For those who think she’s acting on her own she’s just another Soros front woman as Angela Davis was a Quaker/ Communist party front woman 50 years ago. Or Ford Foundation funded CIA trained Gloria Steinem 55 years ago.

    The more things change.

  298. Alden says:
    @RoatanBill

    All the damage was done to us between 1956 and 1979 when we were 85% of the population and the anti White laws and court orders were done by White male elected politicians and judges.

    Being the majority didn’t help us when the anti White laws were being made.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  299. Alden says:
    @Rosie

    Amren mostly concentrates on 20, 21 century black man White women relationships. Being heavily southern they deny the millions of mulattos, quadroons octoroons and
    16tharoons White southern men happily churned our for 400 years.

    But these commenters are dirty old men obsessed with teen age girls and their clothes and hair.

    Big problem is most of the male commenters on UNZ deny that the laws and court orders destroying American Whites were made and done by White men. Maybe they believe that congress and senate were 70% feminazi in the 60s. Maybe they believe that the federal abd state judges were 70% feminazi in the 1970s.

    They definitely believe that abortion didn’t exist until 1973 and birth control didn’t exist until 1960.

    It’s either ignorance or denial of the truth that White men led the fight against the rest of us.

  300. AaronB says:
    @Alden

    A lot of what you mention I think of as proximate causes, whereas I am focusing on ultimate causes.

    Jews may have contributed heavily to immigration – that’s a proximate cause.

    An ultimate cause would be, whites developed a culture of nihilism, with roots in the 18th century, that created an opportunity for Jews.

    (A long study could – and should – be written on white gentile authors becoming increasingly nihilistic and anti-European, reaching peak in the late 19th century. As a one-time lover of European culture, I used to be steeped in the classics, and was always surprised and increasingly dismayed by the gradual turn against European culture by its brightest sons, until I began looking into it).

    A proximate cause would be Churches turning against European culture and whites.

    An ultimate cause would be Western Christianity’s turn away from mysticism and emotion and towards mainstream materialism and rationality, perhaps as early as the 11th century.

    But I would absolutely agree with you that a simple return to the mainstream Christianity available today in the West would be worse than useless. They are beyond corrupt.

    What is needed is not “formalism” but a genuine religious revival – a decisive turn away from the excessive “rationality” of modern times (without giving it up entirely, of course), and a return to other human dimensions – feeling, imagination, beauty, morality, experiencing the presence of God through non rational channels, etc.

    Non-Western traditions like Orthodox Christianity, Islam, or Judaism do represent alternatives that have retained some measure of health – but even these three are in need of renewal, and I do not know that the Western population will convert to these en masse. These can only save a certain number drawn to them.

    While we can sketch some of the lineaments of a Western revival, and say for sure what it will NOT involve, nothing credible has yet appeared on the horizon, and the grip of excessive rationality is still too strong.

  301. Alden, I agree with you completely.

    That’s why I’m an anarchist. Gov’t is where the sociopaths go to make a wonderful living by screwing over the stupid that vote for them continuously. It isn’t just that there is no real choice and that elections are merely selections from the approved pool of scumbags nominated by the crooked political parties. The act of voting FOR ANYONE keeps the fraudulent system alive because the winner can claim a mandate for his/her asinine policies.

    It is the voting public that is the cause of the current situation, always looking for a messiah to set things right the way they see it. They never catch on that the system is rigged and their participation is what allows the gov’t to exist to do the screwing they inevitably get.

    If on election day, the smart people went to the center of town and simply stood still somewhere, people would notice these human manikins accumulating. They might ask of them what it is they’re doing by impeding pedestrian traffic. If the response was that they are objecting to the fraudulent election system and the ultimate stupidity which is Democracy, they might find converts to join them in this silent protest.

    Year after year the number of human manikins would grow to eventually produce an election where some minuscule percentage of the population elected the next presidential figurehead. It would become harder and harder for the political system to keep up the facade of ‘gov’t by and for the people’ because it’s outright BS now and always has been.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  302. @Thomm

    Hell, these idiots say that I am an Indian,

    yes, I sympathize you on that and as you’ll recall, I have made a comment denouncing that part of their schizophrenic behaviour. They can’t seem to pick on what you REALLY are. Weird. At least I stay consistent 😉

    ’82’ seems rather low in the face of other evidence

    It is low. There’s malnutrition, chemicals in the water, and a whole plethora of different factors. Where there weren’t issues with the water and etc, the average was in the high 90s, to a 100. The genetic IQ is for sure higher.

    It is hard to believe that they are over 20% Caucasoid.

    Doesn’t negate the fact that they still have Caucasoid facial features and are majority caucasoid.

    You should educate this site, since the widely held position here is quite the opposite of what you are saying

    Agreed.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  303. @AaronB

    Could one make the argument that Western dynamism, energy, expansionism, imperialism, etc., in Europe, Britain and the United States, were at their peak when they were most animated by Christianity?

    An odd bit of business, since Christianity, ostensibly at least, in its core vision as expressed in the New Testament, is not about material aggression and the often violent pursuit of worldly success.

    What is the psychological mechanism in play?

    • Replies: @AaronB
  304. Alden says:
    @KenH

    I’ve been a racially conscious White anti affirmative action advocate woman for 50 years.

    You’re not even a White advocate..

    White nationalism doesn’t belong to people like you who ignore affirmative action and black on White crime and perversely obsess about women’s fashion and teen age girls in short skirts.

    Amren whose men deny White black production of mulattoes by White men for 400 years and blame it all on the White women who’ve been doing it for the last 50 years are better about the women issue than these old perverts

    You don’t run this site. A far far better man than you do runs and pays for this site. So don’t tell the 2 women who regularly post on the site to go away.

  305. AaronB says:
    @Sean McBride

    Very good and interesting point.

    In my view, life is a dynamic balance between polarities, male and female, light and darkness, logic and emotion, materialism and spirit, etc.

    Early Western culture was concentrated in one extreme pole, till the end of the Middle Ages – let us call it the feminine (self denial, emotionalism, humility, collectivism, etc).

    The Renaissance began the journey towards the opposite pole – the masculine, let us say (logic, science, individualism, etc).

    For a few hundred years, there was a tremendous creative release of energy as the West was in a dialectical relationship between these two poles.

    The problem was, the West was travelling on a path towards one extreme pole – rationality, masculinity, etc.

    The Renaissance was only temporarily a balancing act – it contained within itself a momentum towards one extreme pole.

    So as the West began to lose this dynamic balance and become excessively one sided – efficiency, science, industry, rationality, materialism, the managerial technique, etc – as the momentum unleashed in the Renaissance carried it forward, it began to lose its creative energy and become sterile, and depressed.

    The West thought its highest point would be reached at the end of the journey towards the extreme masculine pole, total rationality, total science, etc – but in fact, its highest creative point was when it was dynamically balanced between poles, during the journey (which has no stable end point, it’s a dialectical dynamic)

    I think this balancing of opposites – and the dangers of one sidedness – is key to understand much about human life.

    I think we can relate this notion polarity to our discussion of Judaism, where we saw it avoided either extreme pole, and was both racist and non-racist.

    Enlightenment thinking is an extreme pole, and utilizes either/or thinking – polarity thinking is both/and thinking.

    Enlightenment thinking cannot grasp polarity thinking – are Jews a race? Is it a religion? They cannot grasp both/and thinking, which is the key to the fully integrated personality.

    There is a saying in the Talmud – “this and also this is the word of the living God”, when two Rabbis express opposed opinions. It is a both/and mentality.

  306. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    The Zohar says that God can only exist where both male and female exist – and in a figurative sense, the task of humanity is to help unite the make and female aspects of God.

    In the Zohar, evil is actually just justice without love – evil is a one sided extreme, that ceases to be evil if it is joined with its natural mate.

    These ideas are found in all traditional non Enlightenment cultures – Taoism, Sufism, Christian Mysticism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism.

    They are, I believe, the key to understanding the world, and what went wrong with the West.

  307. Alden says:
    @Rosie

    Don’t forget that White man Hugh Hefner porn purveyor set up the Playboy Foundation soon after he founded his famously lucrative porn magazine avidly read by gazillions of White men.

    The Playboy advocated for legal abortion for 16 years. It’s PR WHITE MEN planted hundreds of articles about the deaths and difficulties of illegal abortions for 16 years. In the mid 1960s Playboy Foundation paid law firms to start looking for the perfect plaintiff for a test case.

    More than the WHITE MALE judges who ruled in favor it was the WHITE MALE Playboy Foundation lobbyists who made legal abortion possible. And where did the Playboy Foundation get it’s money. From subscriptions to Pornographic Playboy Magazine. Subscriptions paid for by guess who?

    MEN

    But these ignoramuses think these law making and law overturning cases just come out of nowhere and aren’t the result of years of planning by activists

  308. AaronB says:

    And the notion of polarity helps us understand why moral self sacrifice is not the enemy of self respect of self interest, but it’s necessary complement.

  309. AaronB says:

    I also want to make clear that from the perspective I’m describing, the extremely dynamic Europe of the past 500 years is not an ideal – its an artificially heightened state of tension between non-integrated poles.

    So it is bound to be ephemeral, and wherever these explosive bursts occur they are quickly followed by a crash, as we are having now.

    The thing to strive for is not unstable tension which may lead to an explosion of creativity in an attempt to heal the split in the short term, but unity of opposites.

  310. Ron Unz says:
    @BengaliCanadianDude

    Hell, these idiots say that I am an Indian,

    yes, I sympathize you on that and as you’ll recall, I have made a comment denouncing that part of their schizophrenic behaviour. They can’t seem to pick on what you REALLY are. Weird. At least I stay consistent

    LOL…

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/#comment-2112102

  311. @AaronB

    Whether your idea about “polarity” is right or not (it is worthy of further exploration), the initial expansion of Europe was simply a reaction to another aggressive civilization : Islam. The Spaniards begun to expand after finishing 781 years of reconquista. It is significant that 1492, when Columbus discovered America, is the same year that Granada, the last bastion of the Muslims, fell. Columbus sailed West to find a short way to Asia for the trade in spices. Both the Dutch and the British were interested in direct trade with Asia, in stead of trade via Muslim middlemen. How the Europeans managed to combine the pursuit of profit, aggression, colonialism and slavery with Christianity is a testimony to the compartmental function of the human mind : one kind of behavior for one situation, an other kind of behavior for an other. You’ll find this phenomenon also among followers of other religions.

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  312. AaronB says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    You introduce interesting nuances.

    I would say, though, that these are proximate causes.

    Facing aggression does not necessarily result in expansion for all cultures. It can be a catalyst in a culture that is already predisposed.

    But catalysts may be necessary.

    As for compartmentalizing, I am not sure I would describe it this way.

    I think the contradictions you see in European culture of the past 500 years represent the activity of several incompatible principles that were not successfully integrated, and vying for supremacy.

    So for instance, in the Middle Ages aggression existed – but the cultural impulse was to soften it, by the institution of the gentle Knight, and the patristic writings against war, etc.

    In the modern era, the impulse was towards aggression, but it had to contend with the pre-existing Christian hostility to aggression – which it fought against, and gradually eroded.

    In both cases, for a brief moment, a healthy balance was struck, that was quickly lost.

    So I would say its not simple compartmentalization, but competing principles – and either they get integrated, resulting in a healthy culture, or one principle wins out, resulting in a sick culture of some kind.

    The late Middle Ages culture also suffered from depression and ennui – read Tuchman.

  313. @AaronB

    “dialectical dynamics” — that’s practically my middle name. Dialectical struggle is a powerful energizing force that drives progress forward. Without polar opposites, and the endless effort to negotiate balance points between them, there is no dialectic.

    Your encapsulation of a few millennia of Western history makes sense.

    I wonder, however, if the leading Enlightenment visionaries weren’t aware of these concepts through the esoteric institution of Freemasonry.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @AaronB
  314. AaronB says:
    @Sean McBride

    Very cool.

    You’re right, Enlightenment thinkers should have been aware of these esoteric ideas. Maybe they thought they were helping achieve unity by advancing a neglected polarity?

    Or maybe they decided to break out of the polarity paradigm and advance a radical one sidedness as a bold experiment, devil take the hindmost?

    Either way, the revolution they started has grown beyond all bounds.

  315. Disappointing that Taylor, in his audio version of the interview at his site, at minute ~22:26 to ~22:40, is still spreading the misinformation about Lincoln, and his so-called plan to send the negroes away after the war. I don’t know why he keeps repeating this lie. Lincoln never had any plan to forcibly round up the negroes and ship them off whether they wanted to go or not. Neither did anyone else, afaik. The only kind of “colonization” (as it was referred to) that was under discussion was to be on a voluntary basis, offering assistance to any who wanted to leave. Of course, it didn’t work, and I would argue that Lincoln knew it wouldn’t. Negroes back then didn’t want to return to Africa any more than they do today. Only about 3% ever left. Furthermore, in his last public address before being assassinated, Lincoln called for negroes to be made citizens and given the vote. Why did he do that if he thought they were all going to shortly be leaving for Africa? It’s all part of a false narrative he’s helped construct, probably with the ulterior motive of obscuring Christianity’s role in the American racial disaster, since almost all the abolitionists were Christian fanatics.

    • Replies: @Republic
  316. AaronB says:
    @Sean McBride

    And if we are right, than too much masculinity and rationality are what is ailing the West.

    In which case, our hyper intellectual comments may be hampering matters 🙂

    And my regrettably pugnacious commenting style may go exactly against what I seek to promote 🙂

    If the task now is to develop a softer, more feminine attitude, and perhaps devote some time each day to the non rational – to not understanding, to not figuring out, to not thinking, to not being logical – without completely losing the rational, then I must ask myself if I am assisting this, and what can I do to assist it.

    After all, we can understand these ideas, but living them is another thing entirely – and far more urgent.

    And perhaps the task now is to live these ideas existentially….unfortunately, in the face of hostility, not even indifference, as I have discovered on this site and elsewhere.

    I must explore non rational ways of living more

  317. BlackFlag says:
    @Alden

    Why don’t rich Whites do anything?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  318. KenH says:
    @Alden

    Well, well, you guys can sure dish it out, every week you men post hundreds of comments that display your hatred of women,and perverted interest in young women and teens .

    Again, you’re suffering from senility because I personally didn’t dish anything out, display hatred of women or a prurient interest in women under 18. You apparently didn’t like my response to Rosie where I said some criticism of women is warranted so decided to inject yourself into the discussion as mother hen.

    The same sites that you bemoan as unfairly attacking women also routinely attack a segment of the white male population as “soyboys”, but I’m sure that’s just fine since it’s ok to trash men, but not women, right?

    1956 Brown de segregating schools White male judges issued that order

    And most of the legal team for the plaintiffs were Jewish. Damn both the white male judges and the Jewish culture destroying lawyers.
    https://forward.com/culture/looking-back/351856/jack-greenberg-the-lawyer-who-used-law-as-a-weapon-to-desegregate-americas/

    1964 civil rights act White men voted for that law

    1965 immigration act White men voted for that law

    Yes, after much behind the scenes Jewish pressure and political activism. Damn them both. Did you know that Jews helped found the NAACP and that it mostly had Jewish presidents until the 1970’s?

    No doubt there have been white elites who’ve cruelly betrayed their people but in most cases it wasn’t in a vacuum. The Jewish communist “long march through the institutions” as well as their ownership of print and TV news began bearing fruit in the post WWII years and steadily re-shaping white elite attitudes on race which was reflected in judicial rulings and political legislation. I fully expect John Roberts to flip and vote with the liberal wing to uphold Obama’s unconstitutional DACA EO when they hear the case in 2020 to maintain his status as goodwhite.

    Regarding abortion, seemingly your favorite subject, did not Jewish feminists also have a hand in pressuring the system to legalize abortion resulting in the activist Roe V. Wade ruling? And isn’t it mostly your blue and pink haired sisters of today loudly demonstrating for abortion laws to remain in place? I’ve seen throngs of women angrily marching and screaming “my body, my choice!!”. Is that the responsibility of white men?

    In states where abortion has recently been outlawed I believe it’s been by mostly white male legislators, certainly not legislatures dominated by women and non-whites.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  319. “You’ve got a variant translation. My version is the same as the King James version, considered authoritative by most, in which the phrase “from time to time” does not appear. Even if it did though, it doesn’t change anything, as even your version states they held everything in common, didn’t regard themselves as having any private property, and shared everything they had. What part of “everything” don’t you understand? ”

    [MORE]

    Had all things in common such as they gave and they gave by choice. No version that I know of makes then a case for communism. And apparently you have not done your homework, as I mentioned the Berean Bible is right down your alley. But it makes no difference not even the NKJV or the KJV suggests what you claim.

    KJV

    “32And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any [of them] that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35And laid [them] down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
    36And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation, ) a Levite, [and] of the country of Cyprus, 37Having land, sold [it], and brought the money, and laid [it] at the apostles’ feet.”

    https://biblehub.com/kjvs/acts/4.htm

    And you will note not as they were forced but by their choice and not as equal distribution but as had need. Nit a single equally forced distribution exchange or idea promoted among them. There was no forced confiscation of property, no progoms . . . just people choosing to aid in meetings others needs.

    The phrase had “all things in common” simply means sharing and what shared in common was freely given. You keep trying to squeeze lemon juice from oranges. The KJV doesn’t advocate in any manner wat to claim.

    Since there was no requirement to sell off their goods nor demand to do so There was nothing amiss about hanging onto what was yours. In fact the occasional seeking of parcels reinforce the point of choice and to do so to meet others needs

    And it does not deviate from the previous translation .

  320. @Alden

    You have done a good job of defining the Who, What, When, and Where. And you are right. Now comes the hard part. Turning over the rocks and trying to find the Why.

    I suspect that a connection can be made between the people who instigated the overthrow of the Czar in the early 1900s and the same group of people who financed the overthrow of the WASP control group in the United States. All of them have a commonality.

    Graduates of primarily Ivy League colleges, all lawyers, bent on making it big in the nations capitol. All with the same University Indoctrination. All in the name of “doing the right thing”. The morality of “love thy neighbor as thyself”.

    Some people are easily led and of course, there will always be those willing to lead.

    The elected representative of the American people are perfect examples. Selected and filtered from an early age by way of the various school systems, they are presented as the best and brightest. Faces that conceal the real rulers of the state. Their financial donors.

    And they share their masters opinions. This is why it makes no difference as to which individual is chosen by the electorate. All those presented by the major parties, with a recent exception, are clones with only superficial differences.

    Once upon a time RCA Corporation had as it’s logo the picture of a little dog listening to an early gramophone with the subtitle, “His Masters Voice”. These days it would be fitting for the symbol of a nation sliding into it’s twilight years and it’s relationship with it’s Masters.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  321. Republic says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Lincoln tried to establish a colony in Haiti for the Blacks, but its leader, Bernard Koch turned out to be a thief and embezzler so that plan floundered.

    That plan was one of the few things that I liked about Lincoln. However deporting 4.5 million blacks in 1865 would have required 22,000 ships, if each ship held 200, or 10,000 ships if each carried 450 .

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  322. @Republic

    In hindsight, that was worth it. There are now about 40 million of them and how many ships would you need for that?

  323. Rosie says:
    @HallParvey

    You have done a good job of defining the Who, What, When, and Where. And you are right. Now comes the hard part. Turning over the rocks and trying to find the Why.

    Fair enough, but then the problem is this.

    When men act contrary to the interests of their own race, it is explained away as the result of Jewish influence; but when women act contrary to the best interests of their race, it is presumed to be a natural consequence of our nature as women.

    That is a recipe for scapegoating.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
  324. Republic: “Lincoln tried to establish a colony in Haiti for the Blacks, …”

    True, but always omitted in Taylor’s mention of this is the fact that departure for it was to be voluntary. Taylor likes to leave the impression that Lincoln was going to round them up and “send them away” whether they wanted to go or not, which is just baloney, as he ought to know and probably does. He’s done this before. For example, in his talk entitled “A Brief History of American Race Relations” Jared Taylor stated:

    I’d like to turn now to the abolition movement, which I think is one of the most misunderstood movements in American history. Most Americans today think the abolitionists wanted to free the slaves and make them equal to whites. Not at all. The huge majority wanted to free the slaves and send them out of the United States, in a process that they called colonization.

    I assume you have heard of Harriet Beecher Stowe who wrote the great anti-slavery novel, Uncle Tom’s Cabin. Her brother, the famous Brooklyn preacher Henry Ward Beecher, had what was very much the majority view, and I quote: “Do your duty first to the colored people here; educate them, Christianize them, and then colonize them.”[i] Most abolitionist activism therefore reflected a deep conviction that slavery was wrong, but it was coupled with a desire to expel the free blacks from the United States.

    But if Mr. Taylor had been a better scholar, he’d have tracked down the Beecher quote to place it in context, and he would have realized that the abolitionist didn’t “desire to expel” the negroes, but only to help them leave if they wanted to repatriate. Here’s the complete quote from Beecher, found in his Patriotic Addresses on p. 186:

    I am for colonization. If any one wishes to go to Africa I would give him the means of going, and for the sake of the continent of Africa, colonization is the true scheme; but if colonization is advocated for our sake, I say, Get thee behind me, Satan, thou savorest not of the things that be of God but those that be of men. Do your duty first to the colored people here, educate them, Christianize them, and then colonize them.

    So, again, abolitionists such as Henry Ward Beecher didn’t want the negroes to be forced to leave for the sake of white people. No! They thought that motive was sinful and base. They only wanted to help any negroes that wanted to return to Africa to do so. In their eyes, that was the path of virtue. They saw it as their Christian duty.

    Mr. Taylor continues:

    Abraham Lincoln is known as “the great emancipator,” and most Americans believe he wanted to make blacks equal to whites. Again, they are wrong. He, too, wanted to free the slaves and send them away. Like the other abolitionists, he did not want free blacks in the country. Why? He knew there would be conflict.

    I’d like to think Mr. Taylor is merely ignorant here, rather than telling a baldfaced lie, but it’s hard to avoid that conclusion. I’ve heard Mr. Taylor speak, and he seems to be quite a well-educated and intelligent man. There was no plan to “send them away” by force, only a pie-in-the-sky hope that they would all volunteer to leave. Just as I said above in #138, if he really doesn’t know this, he’s not as smart as he likes to pretend; if he does know what he’s saying is false, he’s dishonest and just another grifter making his living from “white nationalism”.

    • Agree: Okechukwu
  325. @AaronB

    But genuine moral leaders of stature have not arisen yet among whites, and even the best among you are still enfeebled by Enlightenment thinking.

    Any people/thinkers from the past you could point me to?

    Also, it’s hard to return to good morals when most churches are so pozzed. I’m lucky that I found such a ‘based’ Protestant church. Though I believe even they are involved with refugees, Christian-only ones.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @AaronB
  326. Lststnd71 says:

    JT is brilliant. Im afraid that America / Europe are gone. Are we the sons and daughters of those great men of days past? It sadly seems not. Who will carry on when JT is gone?

  327. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    That’s always been my vague impression.

  328. Parfois1 says:
    @RoatanBill

    It is the voting public that is the cause of the current situation, always looking for a messiah to set things right the way they see it. They never catch on that the system is rigged and their participation is what allows the gov’t to exist to do the screwing they inevitably get.</blockquote:

    Fully agree. I have been saying the same thing for ever: elections confer legitimacy to the ruling elite, therefore the voters vote to be oppressed.

    If they were concerned with "democracy", they would set up a voting system where all citizens would be candidates por public offices, and the selection made by chance, easily done in the computer age. Canyou imagine: no parties, no politicians, no election circus, no buying votes, etc.?

    But they don't like Democracy, they want power only, and the privileges, kick-backs and wahtnots.

  329. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    The West accepts “survival of the fittest” as its philosophy. Shortly after, it loses the capacity for self-interest.

    Weird? What do you think?

    No, its not “weird”.

    It’s from oppression-level anti-White Jewish propaganda in the post WWII period. This isn’t news. Your Jewish nonsense is perpetually exhausting. In this case, by what it chooses to omit to shape its propaganda. If find it “weird” that all Jewish propaganda is two things:

    1. obvious in its transparent rudimentary structure: lots of obvious omissions to shape a false context.
    2. strangely persistent even after its structure is known by everyone (see the MSM, your post, etc).

    Before that, the West espoused “love” as its philosophy, and shows a robust capacity for self-interest.

    Weird?

    No, not “weird”. A consistently declining yet then present vestige of traditional and common sense values in spite of New Testament unconditional love, not because of it.

    Christian cultural routing, away from human nature and the factors needed to maintain morality, was a slow yet continuously obvious process precisely because those factors are so intrinsic to humanity and its civilization.

    The West loses its capacity for self interest after it develops a-moral philosophies – capitalism, Darwinism, and industrialism.

    Forgive us as we choke back a laugh and decline to waste our time by debating morality with anyone that has even remote Jewish ancestry. Judaism is the opposite notion of the widely held standards of universal morality.

    Cultures which retain morality at the center of their philosophy continue to demonstrate robust capacities for self-interest.

    Your pseudo-philosophies and false insights are your mental masturbation. For us, they provide no value. In part because they are demonstrably flawed, and in part because you innately lack ethos due to your ethnicity.

  330. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    I think people have a hunger for spirituality and morality, and if you don’t give them authentic versions, they’ll turn to destructive versions.

    One of the problems with the alt right, and why it isn’t gaining traction, is that it sees the destructive version of morality practiced by SJWs and the like and instead of offering authentic versions, celebrates vicious amorality as a counterpoint.

    Vox Day is a good example – he sees the horror of SJW, and responds by being even more viciously amoral. But this doesn’t answer the need of our time.

    In other words, the response to insane and unbalanced moralism (SJW) is balanced moralism – not vicious amoralism, as the alt right offers

    Please. Your unsupported generalities aren’t persuasion. They are a manifestation of a consistent Jewish propaganda style. As such, they only serve to further detract from your reputation as someone who can think and then express those thoughts in a style that adds value here.

    If the alt-Right is “immoral”, then Jews and their modern State are long beyond that characterization and into uncharted territory. Where would you care to begin the comparison? Try to avoid using assumptions of Jew invented communist morality, meant only to apply to non-Jews, when you begin to formulate your invariably sad response.

  331. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    But genuine moral leaders of stature have not arisen yet among whites, and even the best among you are still enfeebled by Enlightenment thinking.

    Any people/thinkers from the past you could point me to?

    He cannot.

    Since, for a Jew, morality is entirely defined as anything that treats Jews with kid gloves when it doesn’t directly benefit them and, if possible, harms their primary enemy: non-Jewish native European stock.

    It follows that any of our true leaders will be immoral for him, and any of our true Judas goats will be moral in his eyes.

  332. @the grand wazoo

    Completely disagree. Lipstadt is a non-entity. She was a fleeting celebrity due to the Irving affair, but now nobody knows & cares about her.

    Irving lost because of many factors, but the central one is solid: he is wrong & holo-deniers are actually a bunch of kooks. But, Lipstadt is ordinary professional Jewish agitpropette & she has nothing to say & no one to “convince” about anything.

    Jared Taylor’s approach is right: this is not a sprint, but a marathon.

    • Troll: BengaliCanadianDude
  333. @KenH

    Well, I want to know- how long did it last, all of it? JT’s interview is 58 minutes or so. He dismantled poor Fareed- but was he, Jared, even heard in this cacophony?

    It’s not that CNN would be fair (that’s laughable), but about- let’s hear from the other side, too.

  334. DaveWave says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    You miss the point. Jared’s intention is not to convince the interviewer, but the viewer. The interviewer is basically playing the role of a prosecuting attorney, and Jared is the witness on the stand. His goal is to convince the jury that he is right and the prosecutor is wrong. And he does this beautifully. Although CNN will selectively edit the video, many people will watch it and seek out the full interview or actually see the full interview online. Jared knows that the truth is on his side, so he is happy to get a platform to spread his message.

  335. Art Deco says:
    @KenH

    Yes, after much behind the scenes Jewish pressure and political activism. Damn them both. Did you know that Jews helped found the NAACP and that it mostly had Jewish presidents until the 1970’s?

    All of the NAACP’s staff directors have been blacks. All but one of the directors of the allied Legal Defense Fund have been blacks. The position of chairman of the board of the NAACP has since 1934 been held by a black. The position of ‘president’ was held by a white man prior to 1975, but it was for fifty-odd years an unsalaried position concerned with promotions and fundraising.

    • Replies: @KenH
  336. Bardon Kaldian: “Jared Taylor’s approach is right: this is not a sprint, but a marathon.”

    It would be difficult to overstate the idiocy of this. Trying to organize whites politically along explicitly racial lines has failed in America for over a century and a half now, from the first Klan in the 1860s, to its revival in the early decades of the 1900s, through Rockwell and Pierce, and lately with the morons who actually thought voting for Trump was going to change things. All this time, the only gradual shifts have been in an ever more leftist, anti-racist direction, which is now ripening into a virulent anti-whitism. As I see it, the gradualist approach that sees white racial survival as the probable result of a long-term educational project is favored by only three types:

    1. Those who, like Taylor, make their living from it.
    2. People too stupid to have studied history and learn from it.
    3. Losers, who advocate a losing strategy precisely because they want to keep losing.

    In any case, there’s no reason to expect that something that has such a long track record of failure is ever going to succeed.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  337. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    What, then, do you think will actually happen on this front? What are the most likely scenarios?

    • Replies: @Republic
  338. AaronB says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Why not start with the early Church Fathers, if your orientation is Christian?

    St Augustine is good.

    Thomas a Kempis, the Imitation Of Christ, is good.

    Then the Christian mystics, Eckhardt, and the rest.

    Another deeply spiritual writer, although not often seen that way, is Montaigne – who is more accessible, interesting, and amusing to us moderns, and can help break down the rigidity of the rationalistic world view, introduce you to the uncanny and wondrous nature of the world, and introduce you to a rich and complex pre-modern attitude that derives from the Greeks, Romans, and Christian thinkers.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
  339. Sean McBride: “What, then, do you think will actually happen on this front? What are the most likely scenarios?”

    There are too many variables at play to be able to make forecasts. It would be easy to be a pessimist and state that things will continue much as they have so far, with an eventual slide into a S. Africa-like future for whites in America, but there are wildcards; the system is generating revolutionaries and malcontents, and in effect producing not only anti-bodies against itself, but even giving them the tools to bring it down. How that will play out is hard to predict.

    In my view, whites have been primarily victims not of the Jews, or any other group, but of their own collective technological ingenuity. Jews are a problem, but in the final analysis, they only have as much power as whites allow them to have. Christian morality is also a problem, but here again we are dealing with something that is within white control. It too only has the power whites give it. On the other hand, I see technological development as inherently hostile to race preservation, and touch on it here, in a comment on another thread:

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/rootless-provincials/#comment-3308617

    I think if the technological system survives, the white race is doomed. The system has great resilience, but if it crashes or is made to crash, there is hope. However, in order to be effective at saving the white race, any crash would have to be worldwide and permanent, or the parts of the system that were still functioning would simply regenerate, re-establish control, and the problem would continue.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  340. Republic says:
    @Sean McBride

    only about 40% of Whites are leftists In the near future after 2024 I expect to see more Whites switching their position

  341. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I see three or four possible scenarios moving forward.

    Based on current historical trajectories, this may be the most likely: a transhumanist world dominated by transnational AI, billionaire, corporate, financial, robotic and technocratic elites, and in which much of the human race (including all races and ethnic groups) serves no obvious practical purpose.

    Some might argue that we are already there, and that this process is going to accelerate radically in the coming years.

    Another dynamic in play: increasingly the left is framing its political agenda as a racialist and racist war to the death between “people of color” and “whites.” Under those circumstances, “whites” — people from European ethnic backgrounds from all over the world — may be forced into the position of abandoning the modern liberal world order and taking effective measures to defend their lives and their core cultural values by all means necessary.

    In that scenario, the Jewish establishment may choose to ditch leftist politics altogether and to align itself with “whites” as a matter of self-interest and self-preservation.

    What strikes one as bizarre is that many leftists have given up the pretense of being focused on universal humanism. One doubts that they have thought through where their program of militant identity politics is taking them and what will be the likely outcome. They don’t do much in the way of strategic thinking.

  342. Sean McBride: “Based on current historical trajectories, this may be the most likely: a transhumanist world dominated by transnational AI, billionaire, corporate, financial, robotic and technocratic elites, and in which much of the human race (including all races and ethnic groups) serves no obvious practical purpose.”

    I agree. But the purpose of the technological system is to replace the natural world with itself. Thus, the tendency will be to re-engineer the human race; man becomes an engineered product, like any other artificial thing. This is already technically feasible for many characteristics, and is well underway. In such an environment, the very concept of race increasingly becomes obsolete and meaningless; humanity itself, a relic of the natural world, becomes just a raw material out of which to fashion something else entirely. Racial patriots who want to see the white race survive should therefore concentrate their efforts on bringing the system down. Bill Joy’s article, “Why the Future Doesn’t Need Us”, discusses several possible ways to do this.

    https://www.wired.com/2000/04/joy-2/

    As for your second scenario, even if it were to happen, and I think it won’t, the threat from the system itself would still remain.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
    , @Sean McBride
  343. Okechukwu says:

    I watched a Jared Taylor YouTube video and I was stunned by how stupid he is. I believe it was something about Africans and IQ. It was a recitation of the same lowbrow, intensely ignorant talking points that are propagated by the dumbest white nationalist trolls.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
  344. “I am for colonization. If any one wishes to go to Africa I would give him the means of going, and for the sake of the continent of Africa, colonization is the true scheme; but if colonization is advocated for our sake, I say, Get thee behind me, Satan, thou savorest not of the things that be of God but those that be of men. Do your duty first to the colored people here, educate them, Christianize them, and then colonize them.”

    So even by your own admission that was not the intention of abolitionists in total.

    https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/abolitionist-movement

    note the referenced Dulaney, who as a black man sought a return to Africa opportunity, however, i am a little dubious that most abolitionists sought such outcomes. And the prominant players in the movement are most known for colonizing them here throughout the country. The case for deportation is moot today and it was thin then. The blacks in the US were deeply rooted and invested in the country (an understatement).

    ————————————————

    “What strikes one as bizarre is that many leftists have given up the pretense of being focused on universal humanism. One doubts that they have thought through where their program of militant identity politics is taking them and what will be the likely outcome. They don’t do much in the way of strategic thinking.”

    I think the realization is that what is driving a good portion of this in Europe is economics, not just some manner of readjustment to the social order. And what few have mentioned is that it is driven by others outside the country. I don’t think for one minute that the governments south of the border have any intention of protecting the US. What is happening is a low level war with people being used as weapons. The design and demand that the US take x number of refugees via UN agreements and quotas.

    It is no small question whether the Europeans will have a choice.

    Your potentialities are interesting.

    • Replies: @Anounder
    , @Anounder
  345. Adûnâi says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “Thus, the tendency will be to re-engineer the human race; man becomes an engineered product, like any other artificial thing.”

    How is this possible when 1) China exists; 2) the energy devolution happens later this century?

    About your aversion to the cowardly gradualist approach – I do agree that it has proven not to work. But what else is there? Is a civil war (after the USD crash Chechar and the Austrian economists such as Mike Maloney predict) a better option in your view?

    John Mark says that White guerrillas can easily win by blowing up the power structure of the cities. I agree. But what he is blind to is that in case of defeat, won’t Washington DC just funnel hundreds of thousands of PLA fighters from China to kill every White man, woman and child from the West Coast to the East?

    I hate both cowards and those who believe a civil war to be an automatic victory. A civil war must necessarily turn into a race war – and that is true both for the Whites and for the System. Thus, all these petty current issues will be of no concern, all masks will be torn off – this will be the war by Yahweh to end all Whites once and for all.

  346. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    There is little chance, in my opinion, that the rate of technological change can be slowed down or halted altogether, or that the current state of technological civilization can be brought down. Humanity is driven by a powerful urge to create and use new technologies, and to keep improving its current tools. Tool-building and tool-refining is almost what defines us as a species.

    Also, in the competition among human groups, superior technologies provide enormous advantages. Lose your technological edge and you may be enslaved or cease to exist.

    You got this right:

    “In such an environment, the very concept of race increasingly becomes obsolete and meaningless; humanity itself, a relic of the natural world, becomes just a raw material out of which to fashion something else entirely.”

    Regarding the other scenario, in which identitarian leftists succeed in igniting an all-out global war between “people of color” and “whites” — you are also right that that would probably be a small blip on the historical screen amidst the backdrop of the first scenario. Traditional races and ethnic groups would quickly be replaced by superhuman entities (machine, biological and machine/biological) of our own creation — and of the creation of our creations. We may be writing ourselves out of the script.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  347. vinteuil says:
    @Okechukwu

    I watched a Jared Taylor YouTube video and I was stunned by how stupid he is.

    You’re obviously trolling. Stop it.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  348. vinteuil says:
    @AaronB

    Another deeply spiritual writer, although not often seen that way, is Montaigne

    Yeah, right, whatever you say, dude.

  349. We judge by actions and not words. What they call Whitey S*** is simply the fact that we look a the lying bloating groups and see that they contribute little to the common weal.

    They may silence but they do not persuade or change. Simply put they are making better enemies of those they attack for that reason alone.

    Further, reflecting on these word, I remember Methodist Sunday School, where they make the same noises and people will begin to see that Hillary is the complete embodiment of that sect.

  350. Sean McBride: “There is little chance, in my opinion, that the rate of technological change can be slowed down or halted altogether …”

    The collapse of the Roman Empire showed that civilization can be lost, technologies abandoned and forgotten. So it can be done. It could happen again, on a global basis this time, either on purpose or by accident. That something of the sort could be done on purpose seems to worry Bill Joy, and many others.

    Perhaps a post-technological world would end up looking like ancient Athens or ancient Rome. But, someone might object, if they can get that far, what will prevent them from quickly building the global technological system back again? In ancient times, there were still plenty of easy to find materials with which to build technological civilization. Those are gone now, all used up. Resources vital to the technological system such as oil, iron, copper, aluminum, zinc, tin, gold, silver, etc., now require high technology to obtain. If that technology goes away, then they will in effect be permanently unobtainable. In the short term, cities could be effectively mined for materials only if enough people remained to do that, and a distribution network still was in operation, both to distribute the mined materials and to support the miners with food and other necessities of life. Depending on the method used to take the system down, this might well not be the case. Such activities are also somewhat constrained by time. If sufficient time passed before salvage began, much material would already have decayed to unusability. Wood and cloth rot, steel rusts, glass fogs and shatters, gasoline and oil oxidize and absorb water and go bad, plastic becomes brittle and breaks. A century or two of darkness, or much less, depending on the resource in question, and salvage would be unproductive. A blow to the system of sufficient power to cause a worldwide collapse and consequent population decrease from famine, disease, and conflict might well be something from which the global technological system could not recover. If an interruption to global technological society is imposed that lasts long enough, then the tools to extract those resources will no longer exist, nor the tools and resources to make those tools. In a few generations, even the knowledge of how to do so will be lost.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  351. Okechukwu says:
    @vinteuil

    You’re obviously trolling. Stop it.

    I wasn’t trolling. I believe the video was Race Differences in Intelligence, which was removed by YouTube for violating its TOS and also probably for the sheer stupidity of it. But you can watch it here: https://archive.org/details/race-differences-in-IQ-intelligence-quotient-by-jared-taylor

    Taylor goes down the line reciting a litany of the moronic slogans and catchphrases that make white nationalism an unserious movement, and because of which white nationalists are generally regarded as stupid. This is not the stuff of an intellectual giant who is the face of this so-called movement. It’s the stuff you find being regurgitated by braindead morons on 4chan or daily stormer.

  352. KenH says:
    @Art Deco

    The position of ‘president’ was held by a white man prior to 1975, but it was for fifty-odd years an unsalaried position concerned with promotions and fundraising.

    Jews served as NAACP Presidents from 1930 until 1975:

    Joel Spingarn 1930-1939
    Arthur Spingarn 1939-1966
    Kivy Kaplan 1966-1975

    If president was just a meaningless and inconsequential position then Jews would had blacks serve in that role. Since blacks have nudged whites and Jews aside the NAACP is now a shell of its former self and mired in scandal and financial improprieties every few years.

    https://www.postandcourier.com/news/there-s-a-natural-allegiance-naacp-to-honor-jewish-roots/article_30311fb6-ddd8-11e8-8d5c-3762bda97649.html

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  353. Okechukwu says:

    Man, I had underestimated Fareed Zakaria.

    Jared Taylor is absolutely bankrupt intellectually and Zakaria laid that bankruptcy bare for the world to see. Particularly salient was the historical perspective Zakaria introduced. How racial categories have changed over time. How an idea whiteness has changed over time. How Europe itself had for thousands of years been a boiling cauldron of religious and ethnic conflict, thereby refuting Taylor’s central theme that “whites” get along better with other “whites.”

    Taylor, like most white supremacists, eschews the idea of history and how history informs the present day. So it must have come as a shock when Zakaria began talking with depth and nuance to this regurgitator of canned talking points. Taylor was completely disarmed and unable to defend himself, as is typical of people who spend their lives among the choir in echo chambers.

    This was a brilliant, layered performance by Fareed Zakaria that you typically won’t find with an MSM organization like CNN. Splendidly done.

    • LOL: vinteuil
  354. @Sean McBride

    There is little chance, in my opinion, that the rate of technological change can be slowed down or halted altogether, or that the current state of technological civilization can be brought down.

    Sorry, but in next 50 or so years nothing will happen re “machines”. They’ll remain just tools as they had been all the time; possible significant genetic reconfiguration of homo sapiens won’t happen – from cloning on, nothing basically changed human life.

    In fact, 2019 is not much different from 1950 re human- machine interaction. Sure, “machines” (in the broadest sense of the word) are immensely more present, but their function is as before. In that respect, supercomputer is no different from a plow. AI … this is a joke (in the sense of creating or building essentially new type of society or civilization).

    I, of course, don’t know what will be in next 100, 200…years, but short of WW 3, next 20-50 years will be, as ever, fights among tribes & peoples.

  355. @Bardon Kaldian

    You expect me to read all this shit??

  356. @Bliss

    You should have watched the whole thing. Near the end,Taylor gets extremely angry.
    “You street shitting slob! Ive had just about enough of you you pencil dick moron!”
    He grabs him by the collar and breaks his nose with a vicious punch.
    “Ha,” Taylor laughs “what’s the matter did the little bitch get hurt. Maybe that’ll learn ya to show a little respect!”
    I thought it went well.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  357. Anounder says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The abolitionists didn’t want to live around Blacks as a race. Same goes for Thomas Jefferson.

  358. Anounder says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    America was much safer under segregation than it was after segregation. Blacks were better performing/behaved as well.

  359. Art Deco says:
    @KenH

    If president was just a meaningless and inconsequential position then Jews would had blacks serve in that role.

    Your problem is that your conclusions are incorporated into your premises. And your premises are inane.

    The consequential position in the NAACP is the staff director, called the ‘executive secretary’ for most of the organization’s history. It’s been held by black men since 1920.

    • Replies: @KenH
  360. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I am trying to imagine what might cause the catastrophic collapse of our current global technological civilization. A few possibilities:

    -asteroid hit
    -biological war
    -earthquakes
    -engineered pandemic
    -ET invasion
    -gamma-ray burst
    -global warming
    -natural pandemic
    -nuclear war
    -pollution
    -supervolcano eruption
    -unknown unknown

    Any of these events *could* happen before 2100, or at any time before then, but there is a greater probability that human technological progress will continue to accelerate, particularly in the realm of creating autonomous superhuman biological, machine and biological/machine entities that bear little resemblance to our current racial and ethnic categories.

    A Wikipedia article of interest:

    Global catastrophic risk
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_catastrophic_risk

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  361. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    Actually it is the black ASI element which is the main genetic component in the Indian subcontinent.

    The ASI is a mix of Iranian farmers and primitive black Australoid hunter gatherers. ASI are not pure blacks. And nearly all Indians are a mix of ANI and ASI. ANI have the Aryan element in them.

  362. Sean McBride: “… but there is a greater probability that human technological progress will continue to accelerate …”

    As I understand it, all probability theory is based on the idea that the future will resemble the past; but that’s precisely what’s in question here. The challenges presented by technology and its side effects are unique, don’t emerge in a predictable way, and can only be expected to increase. Anyway, my purpose in raising this topic was simply to point out a path that the white race could follow to save itself, not to affirm that it probably will. In fact, given the technophilic nature of most people on the right, at first glance it would seem unlikely that an attack on the technological system would arise from that quarter. Also, saving the white race as it currently exists isn’t a popular idea. Even Hitler didn’t want to do this. He merely wanted to use it as a starting point for a eugenic improvement project. But one never knows. Desperate people do desperate things, and because the system is generating ever larger numbers of desperate people, plus giving them ever more powerful tools to use as weapons against it, anyone acting against the system need not necessarily be of any particular political stripe. They could even be apolitical, like Aum Shinrikyo:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43395483

    As long as the system collapses worldwide and permanently, the white race has a chance to survive. Ironically, from what I have been arguing above, it might even be the case that a death blow to the technological system could be delivered by a millenarian Christian cult. So maybe one could make an argument that racial patriots should encourage Christian religious nuttery rather than discourage it. Then too we have to consider the nature of technology. It has been getting more powerful through each successive generation since at least the Industrial Revolution, but also the unintended consequences of it have been getting proportionally more powerful too. What would happen if Theodore Kaczynski or the Aum Shinrikyo cult, or a criminal like Charles Manson, had had access to potentially civilization-ending technologies? A free internet promises to put such weapons within their grasp. The system is worried about this, and rightly so. I think this is a major reason for the global move towards internet censorship, deplatformings, and totalitarian control generally. Technical systems depend on order and conformity to survive, so totalitarianism was a predictable outcome all along. Foreseeable, but not foreseen.

  363. @Sean McBride

    Just what we need, a bionic African that super-loots.

  364. Anonymous[928] • Disclaimer says:

    I didn’t listen to the interview with Zakaria. Not a fan of Zakaria. I respect Mr. Taylor, but like all white nationalists, he continues to make the fatal mistake of comparing apples to oranges.

    Mexican, Japanese, Turk and Korean are ethnicities. White is a race. Taylor makes his appeal for “majority” based on race, not nationality, culture or ethnicity. That is the fatal mistake.

    On Sarah Jeong, whom I’m also not a fan (I’m also Korean-American), Mr. Taylor unfairly (though technically correct) characterizes her as a “31-year-old immigrant from Korea”, suggesting/implying (misleadingly) that she immigrated not too long ago, or was shaped by a culture outside the US, or spent a large portion of her life not in the US.

    Jeong immigrated at the age of 3. She is 98% a product of the West and the US educational system. No one talks like her born, raised and educated in Korea/Asia. She is a typical feminist Western progressive.

    Her words may also not be as serious as it sounds. If I recall correctly, she claims she was having a twitter war with “white trolls.” That doesn’t excuse what she said, but it does give it some context. What’s more, she’s just 30. The tweets were made a number of years ago. I forget, was it 4-5? A lifetime by 20-something standards.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  365. Anonymous[928] • Disclaimer says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    The only way forward is for whites to be racist. The first step out of this madness is for whites to accept racism and embrace it with pride, without shame. Racism is simply pattern recognition. Racism is realism.

    You can’t win by going backwards. Go forward. Racism is regressive. But the left is also misguided. In the guise of progress, the left destroys all pillars of civilization, community, family and good society.

    Putin has the right idea. He’s a nationalist/patriot for the “Russian people”.

  366. Anonymous[928] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    Being the majority didn’t help us when the anti White laws were being made.

    It’s this unhealthy preoccupation with race that lets anti-white whites undermine you. And give the left a moral opening to take you to the woodsheds.

    Civilizations aren’t built on race. They’re built on family, community and culture. Race is constructed from families and communities, not the other way around.

  367. Anonymous[928] • Disclaimer says:
    @BlackFlag

    Why don’t rich Whites do anything?

    That remains one of the great baffling mysteries of Western society. It’s as if they’ve all been castrated.

  368. vok3 says:

    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    It is easier to banish a habit of thought than a piece of knowledge.

  369. BlackFlag: “Why don’t rich Whites do anything?”

    Obvious answer: because they approve the changes. This is true of whites in general, as Alden perhaps inadvertently showed in her OP. Though of course, everyone has their specific complaints, whites show their general agreement with what is happening in the only way that matters, by going along with it and even helping it succeed. The white man has been domesticated by the technological civilization he invented, and can’t bear to part with it, even though it results in his own racial destruction. He has great confidence it can domesticate other races too, even the most primitive, and will eventually result in the raceless utopia that his religion teaches him lies at the end of history. His passivity is an expression of this civilizational confidence.

  370. KenH says:
    @Art Deco

    Your problem is that your conclusions are incorporated into your premises. And your premises are inane.

    Profound.

    The consequential position in the NAACP is the staff director, called the ‘executive secretary’ for most of the organization’s history. It’s been held by black men since 1920.

    Now called “executive director”. James Weldon Johnson, who served from about 1920-1929, was a lighter skinned negro while Walter Francis White who served from 1929-1955 was at most an octoroon and could easily pass for a white man. Roy Wilkins seems to be the first true negro to be named executive secretary.

    But if you’re trying to convince me that the executive secretary/director was the brains behind the NAACP’s activity especially during the critical decades of the 50’s and 60’s then you’re being wilfully deceptive or you’re very naive.

    Now that NAACP has purged itself of white leftists and Jews and gone entirely FUBU it’s power and respect have plummeted and like I said it’s been mired in so many scandals it’s hard to keep up. It was white and Jewish money, brains and elite connections that put the NAACP on the map.

  371. Dr. Doom says:

    The rich sold out to Satan. This is Satan’s Plan. You sorry assed “charitables” created this tidal wave. Charity should stay in the family.
    The Tribe will be blamed for EVERYTHING. They did it. They deserve the BLAME.

    They will lose. They always lose. Celebrations before completion. Greed. Stabbing friends in the back. I could go on for hours. Many flaws, no upside. Except fanaticism.

    Satan’s suckers, the globalists. They don’t win. Read The Book.

    Babylon Fails. Satan Wins.

    Never bet on black, or red, or green.

    THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS.

    • Replies: @ExposeThem511
  372. Moi says:
    @Old North Church

    “From its founding and until immigration policy changed in 1965, Americans took it for granted that whites would always be the majority. They were 85 percent of the population in 1960, but are now projected, largely through immigration, to become a minority by 2045.”

    Sorry, but whites have only themselves to blame–time and time again they’ve voted in presidents/senators/representatives who have facilitated the rapid decline of the white percentage of the population. Soon blacks and Hispanics will be running the country and folks will have to learn to have at least some facility in Spanish.

    Bye, bye, to what used to be America.

  373. Moi says:
    @Old North Church

    “From its founding and until immigration policy changed in 1965, Americans took it for granted that whites would always be the majority. They were 85 percent of the population in 1960, but are now projected, largely through immigration, to become a minority by 2045.”

    Sorry, but whites have only themselves to blame–time and time again they’ve voted in presidents/senators/representatives who have facilitated the rapid decline of the white percentage of the population. Soon blacks and Hispanics will be running the country and folks will have to learn to have at least some facility in Spanish.

    Bye, bye, to what used to be America.

  374. Anon[906] • Disclaimer says:

    But the “American people” only includes blacks and many other non-whites by definition. The country was birthed by whites, and designed for a free white people. Whatever their differences from one another, the founders never conceived of the republic as a patchwork of races and nationalities.

    As it stands, being a “nationalist/patriot” for the American people is a non-starter. The only meaningful patriotism is for a real category, the white race, not for an intellectual construct.

  375. @Anonymous

    If there was much of immigration into Asian countries from Africa, or, for that matter in any cultural-racial sphere actually invasion of racial “others”, then invocation of “race” would be unavoidable.

    100% of ethnic swamping is non-whites mass moving exclusively to white countries. There is no “threat” of masses of Africans moving into China or India; no real possibility of the Chinese swamping Uganda or Pakistan.

    No white majority country is much concerned with temporary migrations of other ethnicities, like Ukrainans in Poland. Yet, it a completely different thing when masses of people who radically look different, have different ideas about life & openly want to dispossess someone want to move permanently into that people’s ancestral land.

    While race is not everything, without it – everything is nothing.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  376. Republic: “However deporting 4.5 million blacks in 1865 would have required 22,000 ships, if each ship held 200, or 10,000 ships if each carried 450 .”

    Shipping the negroes back to Africa wasn’t the only option, of course. They could simply have killed them; failing that, they could have put them on reservations. Why didn’t they? A policy of extermination, with reservations for any left over, seemed to be good enough for the injuns, so Christian morality can’t be entirely to blame, even though the negroes, unlike the injuns, had been Christianized and thus were imagined to be the white man’s brothers and sisters in Christ. But the answer becomes clear once we realize that the one drop rule, coupled with the white slavemasters’ proclivity for breeding with the negro women, meant that there were no doubt many nominally negro slaves who, like the half sister of Thomas Jefferson’s dead wife, Sally Hemings, had a lot of white blood. So much interbreeding had gone on that some of the negroes could even pass for white. How to dispose of the octaroons and other racially mixed posed a difficult problem for whites of those days, who perhaps might otherwise have been more inclined to send them all to Jesus. No doubt the white-looking contingent among the negroes was also a factor in the decision to make them citizens and give them the vote. One might pity whites of those days for having to make such a difficult decision, but that pity must be alloyed with a degree of contempt for their cowardice in taking only half measures to address the problem. They’ve cursed their posterity by making them deal with the consequences of their greed and lust. Each time we read these days of a negro senselessly murdering or brutally raping a white, we have them to blame.

  377. Anonymous[131] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    If there was much of immigration into Asian countries from Africa

    If Asian countries argued against immigration based on race, they would be morally impugned and the pro-immigration crowd would have a field day.

    No white majority country is much concerned with temporary migrations of other ethnicities, like Ukrainans in Poland.

    I think Poles might disagree with you on that.

    100% of ethnic swamping is non-whites mass moving exclusively to white countries.

    We should keep in mind that a century ago, it was the other way around. Whites were moving exclusively into non-white countries.

    But now that there is blowback, you want to use the race card. It doesn’t work. Race is viewed as regressive and you cannot win that moral argument.

    You have to appeal to home and hearth, family and community. You have to do what the Asians do: appeal to shared culture, shared history and champion the rights of native peoples to enjoy sovereignty in their own country.

    While race is not everything, without it – everything is nothing.

    I don’t disagree. But in order to skin the cat, you have to approach it obliquely.

    Morally one-up the left. Stand for universal humanity and local cultures. America is a nation of immigrants — but immigration is poison if it hurts the people who are already here.

    • Replies: @ExposeThem511
  378. Element59 says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    Taylor is actually talking to the low-hanging fruit of white “normies” – and there are far more of those people out there than there are race realists. He accepts almost any platform where his voice and reason can reach large numbers of these normies and potential allies. I think he’s well aware that his arguments are not going to change the minds of the committed Left or nudge the MSM to be more favorable towards him. He’s simply using them as a means to awaken more of us and to build a larger base from which greater activism will eventually develop.

  379. The sub-race vermin are quick to attack whites on supremacy but certainly don’t object to an injection of our superior DNA into their black or brown host organisms. Wake up folks. This is an extinction plan and they get to elevate themselves by guilting us out of our DNA.

  380. @Anonymous

    Immigration is what will annihilate us. This country was settled as an inheritance to white posterity, not for anyone else. Look at the Old Testament. That is what got the Israelites in trouble many times over. They were commanded not to live among or mingle with the other people of the land, all of whom were miscegenated. Think long and hard. God’s chosen, His sheep, were a pure race people, of which the Jews are not or ever have been. The jews are descendants of the Canaanites/Edomites tribes, both of whom married into the downline of Cain. Jews are usurpers and lying that they are the chosen has bestowed privilege on them. Now, do you want to discover who the true Israelites are? It’s those white tribes who came over the Caucasus Mountains after the Assyrian captivity of which God brought upon them for idolatry which is race mixing and worshiping those race mixed people’s gods.

    You may not like the sound of it but what is happening to us today is in the Bible. There are far fewer true whites than you know. Not everyone who looks white is. You can’t stop what’s coming. It is punishment for abandoning the laws of God. Only a remnant will survive.

  381. @Dr. Doom

    There is no satan or fallen angels. It’s a pharasaical lie that the Jew-riddled Christian churches use to coerce donations so that the priestcraft can pretend to protect them from a hell that doesn’t exist either. Not any differently than Luther had discovered about the indulgence Ponzi scheme the Vatican was using against its uneducated masses 500 years ago. Christ is real. Churchianity is not of Christ but Wall Street.

    The word satan merely means adversary or opponent. The word devil means false accuser. The globalists are satan or the adversary. The churches have you looking for some fictitious fallen angel sitting on your shoulder when we are in fact surrounded by the very adversaries Christ told us about.

    • Troll: Anonymousse
  382. @Monotonous Languor

    JT’s attitude is admirable but also vestigial from a white america when things like fairness and integrity were shared values.

    None of this obtains in the giant tribal favela cum strip mall we’re headed towards.

    If we manage to win there will space enough to safely develop our better natures again.

  383. @Rosie

    When men act contrary to the interests of their own race, it is explained away as the result of Jewish influence; but when women act contrary to the best interests of their race, it is presumed to be a natural consequence of our nature as women.

    Men and women are different in more ways than just the obvious.

    The mothering instinct exhibited in women is evident in the transference of that instinct to dogs, cats and other peoples children. Remember Hillary’s statement that, “its for the children.” She was referring to children in the abstract, not her own child.

    With regard to men, there seems to be much less mothering instinct. However, in order to obtain access to the female body, most men are willing to do almost anything. Even commit to marriage.

    We have to remember that white men are easily lead, which helps to explain the civil rights decisions that resulted in the current situation. But the primary reason for the situation must be laid at the foot of tribal members who have been instrumental in financing most of the individuals, tribal or not, who participated. Without the money for the lawyers, none of this would have happened.

    If you doubt the above, look at pictures of the D day landing. Most of the first men ashore knew they were going to die, but they went anyway. Death was preferable to being accused of cowardice. Very much like the need for politically correct speech today.

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  384. Rosie says:
    @HallParvey

    The mothering instinct exhibited in women is evident in the transference of that instinct to dogs, cats and other peoples children. Remember Hillary’s statement that, “its for the children.” She was referring to children in the abstract, not her own child.

    With regard to men, there seems to be much less mothering instinct.

    Your error consists in assuming that mothering is all about nurturing. It is not.

    Compare:

    I agree with you about ththe lack of mothering instinct, though. You lot have exported our industrial base wholesale for $$$, with no regard whatsoever as to how it would affect future generations. And you just won’t stop demanding ever more cheap labor. Having outsourced the manufacturing sector, you now demand H1-Bs to do the jobs we were promised as replacements.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2019/07/10/house-republicans-deliver-cheap-labor-for-google/

    I’m not buying your special pleading. Division and extinction or unity and survival. Decide.

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