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Swedish Foreign Minister Margot Wallstrom recently suggested an inquiry into a surge in Israel’s reported extra-judicial killing of Palestinian demonstrators after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called for a harsh response and told his police and soldiers that those opposed to the continued occupation of the West Bank were “terrorists.” Almost immediately, the Israeli government denounced Wallstrom as engaging in “political stupidity,” banning her from travel to Israel, while one newspaper close to the government suggested that she might be assassinated, as fellow Swede Count Folke Bernadotte was by Jewish militants in 1948, because anti-Semitism appears to be in the Swedish DNA.
All of that outrage and personal ridicule is pro forma for an Israeli government that reflexively smears and denigrates any and all critics, but the more interesting epilogue was the unanticipated discovery by the Swedish and international media that Wallstrom has not been paying the full rent on the subsidized government apartment that she occupies. The revelation follows a familiar pattern, where critics of Israel suddenly find themselves being discredited for something completely unrelated to the Middle East. President George H. W. Bush (the good Bush) suffered a similar come to Jesus moment in 1991 when he went on national television to denounce the pressure tactics of the Israel lobby. The Israeli government was demanding U.S. Treasury backed loans to construct illegal settlements. President Bush, who was running for reelection and far ahead in the opinion polls, suddenly was confronted by a well-funded and organized opposition raising doubts about him and his record. And President Bush was not reelected, presumably learning along the way that one does not trifle with the Israel Lobby, to be replaced by the enthusiastically Zionist Bill Clinton.
United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon is also wondering about Israel’s alleged commitment to peace. On Tuesday he said “it was human nature to react to occupation,” following up with a comment on Wednesday regarding Israel’s “stifling” occupation of Palestine. Netanyahu reacted with his usual over the top rhetoric, stating that Ban “was encouraging terror.” One might also anticipate, as in the case of Wallstrom, a well-orchestrated media blitz questioning Ban’s motives or explaining how he has always been a closet anti-Semite. It is par for the course and fully expected when one criticizes Israel.
Indeed, it is a global phenomenon. Wherever one goes – Western Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United States – there is a well-organized and funded lobby ready, willing and able to go to war to protect Israel. Most of the organizations involved take at least some direction from officials in Tel Aviv. Many of them even cooperate fully with the Israeli government, its parastatal organizations and faux-NGOs like the lawfare center Shurat HaDin. Their goal is to spread propaganda and influence the public in their respective countries of residence to either hew to the line coming out of Tel Aviv or to confuse the narrative and stifle debate when potential Israeli crimes are being discussed.
Israel’s diaspora allies are backed up by a formidable government organized machine that spews out disinformation and muddies the waters whenever critics surface. The Israeli Foreign Ministry has a corps of paid “volunteers” who monitor websites worldwide and take remedial action and there is a similar group working out of the Prime Minister’s office. That is why any negative story appearing in the U.S. about Israel is immediately inundated with pro-Israel comments, many of which make exactly the same coordinated points while exhibiting the same somewhat less than perfect English. On sites like Yahoo they are actually able to suppress unwelcome comments by flooding the site with “Dislike” responses. If a comment receives a large number of dislikes, it is automatically blocked or removed.
The sayanim, local Jews in their countries of residence, are essential to this process, having been alerted by emails from the Israeli Foreign Ministry about what to do and say. The reality is that Israel has lost the war of public opinion based on its own actions, which are becoming more and more repressive and even inhumane and so are difficult to explain. That means that the narrative has to be shifted by Israel’s friends through subterfuge and the corruption of the information process in each country. In some places the key media and political players who are engaged in the process can simply be bought. In other places they can be intimidated or pressured into taking positions that are neither in their own countries’ interests nor morally acceptable. In large countries like the United States, Britain and France a combination of friendly suasion and coercive elements often come together.
In all cases, the objective is the same: to repress or misrepresent any criticism of Israel and to block any initiatives that might be taken that would do damage either to the Israeli economy or to the country’s perceived standing in the world. In some countries Israel’s advocates work right out in the open and are highly successful in implementing policies that often remain largely hidden but that can be discerned as long as one knows what to look for.
Recent Israel Lobby activity in the United States has included legislation at state levels to make illegal divestment from Israel or to promote boycott of Israeli products. A trade pact with Europe will reportedly include language requiring the United States to take retaliatory action if any European country tries to boycott Israel, to include the West Bank settlements, which the empowering legislation regards as part of Israel proper.
Israel is also working to create a mechanism for global censorship of the internet to ban “incitement,” which clearly is a euphemism for material that is critical of its policies. Recently Facebook has begun to delete from its site any “hate speech” and “terrorism” related material but what has not been widely noted is that the apparent restrictions also have involved sites critical of Israel including Christians United for Peace.
Many prominent critics of the American Israel Political Action Committee (AIPAC) are unaware that AIPAC exists in various forms in a number of other countries. BICOM , the Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre, is located in London. The French equivalent is the Conseil Representatif des Institutions Juives de France (CRIF). In Canada there is a Center for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA) , in Australia a Zionist Federation of Australia and in New Zealand a Zionist Federation of New Zealand .
While AIPAC is specifically focused on the U.S.-Israel relationship, its counterparts in Europe often deal with a whole range of issues that they define as Jewish, but protecting Israel is always part of their agenda, particularly for those groups that label themselves as Zionist. The political power and financial muscle of the groups gives them access to government far beyond the actual numbers of their supporters. In France this has led to the legislation of hate crimes that de facto exist to protect Jews that have been also been interpreted as limitations on one’s ability to criticize Israel. In its most recent test, a French court declared that a peaceful protest promoting Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) directed against Israel was illegal.
Many believe that France now has less free speech than any other European country. Recently, the alleged humor magazine Charlie Hebdo, ran a revolting cartoon showing the little Syrian boy Alan Kurdi who drowned in Turkey last summer as all grown up and sexually assaulting a woman in Germany. There was considerable outrage throughout the world but no sign that the French government will do anything to prosecute the magazines since it was Muslims who were being ridiculed. Charlie Hebdo frequently insults Muslims (and also Christians) but rarely lampoons Jews.
In Britain, Jewish organizations uniquely are allowed to patrol heavily Jewish neighborhoods in police-like uniforms while driving police type vehicles and there have been reports of their threatening Muslims who enter the areas. Prime Minister David Cameron’s government, which is responsive to a Conservative Friends of Israel lobbying group, has also done its part to create official barriers to any spread of the BDS movement. It is proposing legislation that will enable it to overrule decisions by local government councils that seek to cut business or investment ties with Israel and, more particularly, Israeli settlements, under the pretext that such action interferes with the conduct of foreign affairs. The British government is also considering its own brand of hate speech legislation, banning from social media any commentary that is considered to be anti-Semitic, which will almost certainly extend to criticism of Israel.
Canada’s government has also threatened to use hate speech laws to block criticism of Israel and forbid BDS related activity. Australia meanwhile, has ceased referring to east Jerusalem as “occupied” and is apparently leaning towards similar “non-pejorative” language relating to the militarized occupation of the West Bank, preferring the neocon favored dodge “disputed.” New Zealand has proposed Israeli-Palestinian peace talks that specifically demands that participants “refrain from referring a situation…to the International Criminal Court,” which would effectively decriminalize war crimes committed by both sides during the two recent invasions of Gaza. As a United Nations investigation determined that Israel was disproportionately responsible for what did occur, the proposal eliminates accountability and is effectively a get out of jail free card for some Israeli government officials.
And so it goes. Criticize Israel and there will be a comeuppance by virtue of a highly developed international system that relies on government direction as well as volunteer supporters who are able to shape both the media message and the political response. Accepting that as a given, I suppose one should be proud of being called an anti-Semite every time the label is misapplied to stifle dissent, but it all sadly reflects a lowering of the discussion to a dirt level. This might just be because there is no justification for Israeli behavior. The fact is that in terms of systematic human rights violations Israel is something beyond an apartheid state, frequently engaging in open racism and, in the opinion of many observers, crimes against humanity. It is furthermore a persistent source of instability in the Middle East and even beyond.
Israel is a liability to the United States and to the European nations that it has successfully manipulated into acquiescence regarding its bad behavior. When AIPAC and its overseas clones act for Israel the host nations in which these organizations exist should recognize exactly what is taking place. If Israel is truly first in their hearts and minds that is perfectly acceptable but its advocates should perhaps consider moving there and letting the rest of us be. Would that be too much to ask?
and yet there are almost zero news articles about chinese occupation of tibet , turkish occupation of cyprus , indonesian occupation of papua , moroccan occupation of western sahara ……….
This is Jew 101 - always point out that others are bad - thus Jews can be bad. The West condemns these states for what they do - thus Israel must be condemned.
Of course the big lie is that Zionist Israel is a Wester state - it is not.
Western states do not hide their nukes.
Wester states are not apartheid states.
Western states do not imprison a million people as in Gaza.
Western states do not allow white sex slavery.
Wester states do not have a state religion.
Israel is a Jewish state - not a Western state.
By all standards - Israel is an evil state.
True story.
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Often when I read a piece of Phil’s, I get the vision of a brilliant architect dumping corbels, arches, window frames, doors, chimneys, cedar siding, brick walls on a large floor. These items are actually recent Zionist activities (polite term). I am familiar with many of these Zionist moves and international reactions to them, Phil’s building blocks. But every time, He surprises me. Every build, every article, is original. Same old Zionist trickery. Always new Giraldi interpretation.
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The quixotic ride of the Arabist.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/181652/seven-americans-continue-view-israel-favorably.aspx?g_source=COUNTRY_ISR&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles
Islamists sit in the Knesset, but any advocacy of Zionism leads to prison or worse in Iran.
Just admit to being an out-and-out Anti-Semite, there are plenty of friends at The Right Stuff who have gotten over the psychological shock.
https://rehmat1.com/2012/01/28/rabbi-jews-can-pray-in-mosques/
Not to mention the billions in US taxpayers money supremacist Jews extract from the controlled US Govt. each year.Who runs the Federal Reserve?
Who runs Wall Street?
Who owns the US Congress?
Who owns the White House?
Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible '6M & gas chambers'?
Who runs the media / entertainment?
Who dominates 'academia'?
Why is AIPAC the most powerful, dominant lobby, which regularly writes the text of Congressional bills and resolutions?
Who is it that wants to censor free speech via the "hate speech" canard?
Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?
Who are the biggest racists on the planet?http://news.sky.com/story/678761/israeli-army-t-shirts-mock-gaza-killings
'Israeli Army T-Shirts Mock Gaza Killings'http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Mar/Week3/118790/default/v0/15245789-522x293.jpg
Pregnant women and children being targeted by Jews.and:
Two teenage Israeli girls carrying a placard in Hebrew reading: "Hating Arabs is not racism, it's values."
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02962/jewish-girls_2962213c.jpgeemingly endless Zionist organizations engaged in propagandahttp://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-tech-site-paying-interns-covertly-plant-stories-social-media
Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook
Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebookhttp://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6175Jewish Internet Defense Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_ForceZionist Wikipedia Editing Course http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189
Why is there no name for the Zionist death squads that hate the 'goyim cattle', as they call us? Or would it be their favored insult 'amalek' or 'golem'? The perennially persecuted have plenty of hate labels for 'others'; but God help those who call THEM anything- legit or not.
The Sayanim's latest venture is none too patriotic, in fact it is dangerous and criminal in any free society and its perps should be sued in a huge class action legal suit to the fullest extent of the law-
OPERATION CANARY MISSION where The Zionist Tribe gang stalks their targets by libeling and defaming the target to their bosses/colleagues so they are blacklisted from employment, or if they are enrolled, contacting their professors to have them removed from class, or contacting their social circle to defame them and libel them for their criticism of Israel. Kind of like a second generation Campus Watch writ large.
They brag on their Canary site about operating from the shadows to implement their Israeli SAYANIM-backed blacklist.
Steps need be taken NOW, to prosecute this stealth mafia or the casualties wont even know what them.
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Dear Mr Giraldi,
I think,perhaps,what should NOT be too much to ask of Israel is..does it have a “Peace Plan” ?
Shouldn’t any (and every) nation on this planet, in a state of belligerence, be required to present some form of resolution to its own conflict, that comports with international law ?
If so…then where is Israels plan for peace ?
What does it look like ?…what does it sound like ?
Where is it ?
Assume for a moment, Mr Giraldi, that you are at war with an enemy and that enemy has agreed to all the internationally mandated resolutions to the conflict…and you have not.
How is it possible that your enemy (who has agreed to the worlds terms for peace), is the terrorist in the equation…and not you ?
Israel has a done a tremendous job in selling to the world its “war on terror”, but absent a viable peace plan of its own (and a willingness to implement it)…..it may not be long before the label “terrorist” is, justifiably, turned on its own progenitor.
Joe Webb
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321335
I thought it would be hard for the Cameron government to be even more subservient to Israeli interests than the Blair government was, how wrong I was. At least the openly anti Israeli Corbyn was elected to leadership of the Labour party, perhaps astonishing in of itself. The barrage of negative media coverage and lack of money had no effect, although the undermining of Corbyn goes on so it is unlikely his leadership will be successful. The Lobby depends on its illusion of strength, once it loses that it is quickly diminished.
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Yes, it is a ‘conspiracy’. Yes, it is ‘international’. And yes, the perps are Jewish! Oy vey.
Unfortunately, stating these near-obvious facts probably means you’re an ‘anti-Semite’, Mr. Giraldi. (And a virulent one at that!) Sorry, truth is no defense. Off to jail!
Has the unhinged, delusional, war-happy American Empire gone all-kosher? It’s looking that way. Fortunately, you haven’t violated any ‘speech codes’ just yet (that we know of).
Hmm. Better be careful.
In a just and rational world, insightful and verifiable observations of this kind you posit would be protected vigorously–if not lauded. But they’re not. Why? The censors are gaining ground. And their Zionist cheerleaders dominate the airwaves.
But there is a covert, global movement afoot that’s designed to protect and empower the pan-Zionist project. It runs from Jerusalem to London to Paris to Frankfurt to Washington to NY to Chicago to LA to Ottawa to Sydney and beyond. It is vast, subversive and deviously effective. New values have emerged. Commandments. In the freedom-loving West, Thou Shalt Now Show ‘Contempt’ of Jewry’!–no matter what. And there’s more where that came from.
But since everything you describe, Mr. Grialdi is basically spot on, all your detractors can do is 1) ignore you, 2) defame you, or 3) diminish you by labeling you an ‘extremist’ or ‘bigot’ or saying things like ‘[Giraldi] verges on crossing the line into anti-Semitism’–or some other such insult. It’s a familiar game plan. Death by a thousand cuts.
Rumors/allegations of ‘anti-Semitism’, then, are a tactic of defamation that’s used to manage political discourse. The anti-Semitic boogeyman has enormous and enduring power. This is no accident. Rule-breakers will be punished. But the name-calling and politically-correct denunciations are a ruse. What the Zio-supremacists are trying to do is switch the subject away from Israel (and them) to the few critics who violate either unwritten rules or Hate Speech statutes. Off with their heads! (or simply see that they’re fired and ruined).
Thus, the Chosen People have become a protected class. Question their status at your own peril. This unwritten rule is well-understood by our governing class. So when it comes to Israel, there shall be no ‘harsh criticism’ or anti-Zionist advocacy. Never. These taboos are managed and amplified by our dominant media.
So the core problem remains. It is 1) Israel’s global footprint, 2) its (mostly) unrecognized power around the world, and 3) the rising array of restrictions around exploring this phenomena.
And the sub-text of this story goes this way:
Zio-supremacists are still pressure governments, still bribing candidates, still distorting history, still censoring critics, and still manipulating public opinion for their own tribal benefit. Their intimidating, global reach undermines the sovereignty and moral rectitude of every host country.
This pattern is staggeringly real and hugely consequential.
And then there is the matter of their tactics.
Denial, obfuscation, corruption, aggression, expulsion, denunciation, and sheer intimidation–by whatever means necessary. They can be ruthless.
Fortunately, some of these Hebraic black arts are losing influence. This is due in part to the words and actions of good men who–like you, Mr. Giraldi–are leading the way.
So thank you for exposing some of their dark machinations. Needless to say, it’s pretty much a thankless task. Ironically, it’s the AIPAC and the ADL that publicly hold lavish parties and awards ceremonies. Such crazy times these are.
On the other hand, we non-Jewish Americans, with one country only, are being pushed to the margins.
Your cogent analyses give expression to an awareness that is slowly rising in minds of many. Jewish supremacism is real.
Replace "Zio-supremacists" with "Zio-supremacists and Anti-Jew conspiracists" and you are spot on.
"Jewish supremacism is real."
Are you impotent as a non-Jew to actually counteract their alleged world-wide reach?
I prefer humanity rather than a particular identity. Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.
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Israel’s alleged commitment to peace?
Israel wants a piece of Syria; a piece of Iraq; a piece of Saudi Arabia; a piece of Lebanon; a piece of Jordan; a piece of Turkey; a piece of Egypt and whatever pieces are left after they genocide Palestine out of existence.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321383
If Zionists can help it, Giraldi’s speech will be banned as ‘hate speech’.
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/02/27/1647321/canadian-supreme-court-upholds-hate-speech-laws-against-anti-gay-activist/
I say fight fire with fire. We need to define ‘hate speech’ in our own way and call for banning it.
Ban Zionist speech because it hates Palestinians.
Ban feminist speech because it hates white males who did most to free women.
Ban rap music because it savagely hates civilized virtues.
Ban pro-illegal-immigration speech since it hates the rule of law.
Ban homo speech since it hates normality and true marriage.
Ban PC since it hates the truth.
Ban communist speech since it hates private property and upper classes.
Ban anti-fascist speech since it hates fascists.
Ban interracist speech since it hates racial solidarity.
Etc.
"Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law."
In that case, all the Third World Liberation struggles were wrong since they incited hatred for the imperialists. Cubans incited hatred against imperialist America. Viet Cong incited hatred against imperialist America. Algerians incited hatred against the imperialist French. Russians incited hatred for the German invaders.
It is good to hate the oppressors and invaders.
Whites need to hate invaders and oppressors of whites.
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Excellent article. By the way, I found it through this blog: theshitlordhub.blogspot.com (Shitlord Hub) It aggregates RSS feeds from a plethora of Alt Right blogs and sites.
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Mentally disturbed people control the world. Tell me a news.
Europeans were nurtured to be mind slaves, every side of political/ideological spectrum have a potential to become a “Jewish perspective”, even those that call themselves anti-juda-ism, as white nationalism.
Christianism (basically, the cult to the certain biblical/jewish family supremacist story) contribute a lot to create a cultural “European” cycle: “capital-ism” or materialism as ideology of worker hope, ” the work make us free”, the “sanctity” of “hard working”, that owners simply love and christianism, the cult to the metaphysical hope, “never dies, never come”. Religious Europeans and diaspora pray to the Jewish god “who” help just the chosen ones.
European pray waiting for a better future while Ashkenazi armenoid Jews manipulate this clear weakness to their own and their kids.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321394
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/02/27/1647321/canadian-supreme-court-upholds-hate-speech-laws-against-anti-gay-activist/
I say fight fire with fire. We need to define 'hate speech' in our own way and call for banning it.
Ban Zionist speech because it hates Palestinians.
Ban feminist speech because it hates white males who did most to free women.
Ban rap music because it savagely hates civilized virtues.
Ban pro-illegal-immigration speech since it hates the rule of law.
Ban homo speech since it hates normality and true marriage.
Ban PC since it hates the truth.
Ban communist speech since it hates private property and upper classes.
Ban anti-fascist speech since it hates fascists.
Ban interracist speech since it hates racial solidarity.
Etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Covenant_on_Civil_and_Political_Rights
“Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.”
In that case, all the Third World Liberation struggles were wrong since they incited hatred for the imperialists. Cubans incited hatred against imperialist America. Viet Cong incited hatred against imperialist America. Algerians incited hatred against the imperialist French. Russians incited hatred for the German invaders.
It is good to hate the oppressors and invaders.
Whites need to hate invaders and oppressors of whites.
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”Canada’s government has also threatened to use hate speech laws to block criticism of Israel and forbid BDS related activity.” That’s not hate speech when you denounce Mr Trudeau and his friend, Irwin Cotler who gave the OK for the No Fly Zone in Libya, and who (and the state owned media CBC-Radio-Canada) are still denying the consequences of the ”humanitarian” intervention” of Canada (and allies) in Libya.
So they now want to use Canada for humanitarian intervention in Syria, and for FTAs concluded with the European Union? While remaining totally silent on Libya?
Same goes for current Liberal Party led by prime minister Justin Trudeau.
Personally, I liked several of Trudeau’s election promises – but always doubted his foreign policy agenda, especially in Middle East. Based on his family background and his support for the Zionist entity as opposition leader, I never believed his policy would be much different than Stephen Harper’s Zionist-butts-licking policy. Justin’s father Pierre Elliott Trudeau was the first Canadian prime minister to appoint a Jew in his cabinet. He also dated Hollywood Jewish singer and actress Barbara Streisand for years in the 1970s....
https://rehmat1.com/2016/01/05/canada-trudeau-vs-harper/
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It is incredible what such a small group of determined maniacs can accomplish with the cowardly and clueless mass of sheep. But one of their fatal flaws is that they never know when to quit. Their continued push for more power and control will be their undoing, once again.
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“President George H. W. Bush (the good Bush)”
Pinochet overthrow, 1980 October Surprise, Iran-Contra and Doug Coe associate which is likely related to the suppressed Discovery Channel documentary “Conspiracy of Silence” where tours of the White House were given to minors prior to rapes by political figures with (obvious and clear) ties to power at the pinnacle.
That’s likely the tip of the iceberg. It never ceases to amaze how perception of George H.W. Bush is rehabilitated for the fact of crimes by his ignorant spawn.
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of course it is too much to ask. we are the meat shield and the club. why would they stop using us?
hillary even held a press conference out of no where just to point out the rise of anti semitism in the world just to get the permission and backing to run for president from her jewish overlords.
that is how much control they have over our “suppose” elites who are suppose to be leading our govt and country.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321445
Every country has embassies, lobbies, business groups and partnerships and espionage going against the country of every other. Israel is nothing special in this department and the United States is the worst offender. Every country sucks like a leech off the United States and they pay a price in the attentions bestowed by our intelligence agencies and lobbies in Washington and abroad. Israel is good at buying our tech and weapons, but they hardly “need” us. And they pay cash. But by all means, let us focus on the pittance of 5 billion bestowed upon Israel.
And let us also ignore the trillions the rest of the Middle East costs us. Ignore China’s hacking and tampering and theft of software and technologies and military challenges (fleas, but still) and ignore the South Koreans and what they cost and ignore all the rest that dwarfs Israel. That’s what you have to do to buy into the premise presented by this article. Jesus, what an anti Semitic hit piece, no offense intended.
Using the Lords name and religious precepts in vain is highly dubious,and a sign of a ziomonster,as they hate Him.
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Recently I read a column by Paul Krugman in which he stated that there were two propositions that underlie every model he and other economists use to predict economic trends and prescribe policy. They were: that each person acts as an individual to maximize his gain and that he does so rationally. These are, by the way, the same propositions that are used by Game Theorists such as von Neumann. Each player is presumed to act rationally to advance their own self interest.
One of the comments Alan Greenspan made in the wake of the bank collapse in 2008 was that he was surprised that the banks weren’t intelligent enough to have perceived the risk inherent in say, 200 : 1 leveraging (Lehmann) and would have realized that such actions would threaten the integrity of the system and that they, the banks, therefore would have refrained from such ultimately self defeating behavior.
So, these Jewish geniuses expect us to believe that persons acting selfishly will be capable of perceiving when their individual behavior may threaten the very existence of the system in which they operate and because it is ultimately “rational” to do so would therefore refrain from acting selfishly–all out of selfish motives? Am I the only one who finds this preposterously ludicrous? Not to mention illogical? Perhaps psychopathic?
There is a name for a person who at all times acts rationally to advance their personal gain and that is: sociopath. Another Jew, Ayn Rand, espouses this hyper, asocial psychopathy as a nostrum for all that ails society.
Speaking personally, I act, almost always, to preserve group harmony and cohesion (but then, I am a Scandinavian by heritage). I am always aware of the tension between what I want and how this would strain group relations. I am aware that were any of us to pursue their goals without any considerations for other people’s way of thinking and feelings they would find themselves out of a job, alone and friendless and whats more, the system would not stand the strain were we all to pursue our private gain with no consideration for cooperation, compatibility and reconciliation. And obviously, since emotions play a role in my choices, I most certainly don’t always act rationally. In all of this, I don’t think that I am that different from other Western Europeans (or Japanese, Chinese etc.).
Now Greenspan tries to pull off what Sailer would describe as a “triple bank shot” by saying that “Yes, but in considering your individual self interest you would take into account group cohesion because you are thereby enhancing your individual self interest and so you will restrain yourself from acting in such a way as to undermine blah blah blah…”. Horse puckey.
No person–and especially not a Jew–is capable of simultaneously holding in mind and processing every variable on all these different levels as they work through the infinitude of permutations likely to result from any specific action.
As usual, the Jews credit themselves with too much wisdom which leads one to suspect that their convoluted theories may be an elaborate cover to obfuscate the simple fact that they act to enhance their own self interest period–consequences be damned. Too bad if the rest of you get screwed in the process.
Krugman, von Neumann and Greenspan are elder spokesmen for the perspective of the Jewish People and they have spoken so let’s do them the courtesy of taking them at their word. In their own words, their motives (which they then project onto the rest of the human race) are coldly-rational and self-interested always and all the time. One can see how this would put Jews in conflict with any society in which they find or found themselves.
So now, the Jews, with Netanyahu as their spokesman want to enact policies which place Jews above criticism for policies in which Jews pursue what they perceive to be their uniquely individual, rational self interest.
In light of the colossal failures, moral failings and intellectual inconsistencies listed above, is anyone else skeptical of Jew’s ability to even see what is truly in their (larger) self interest, much less come up with a viable plan and acting on it?
especially this;read somewhere just a few days ago that USA can and does act recklessly because it is so rich and powerful, whereas Russia must carefully weigh every move because it has far less ability to recover from errors.
Israel, with its talons deep in the US arteries and Treasury, has even more freedom of movement: not only does it have access to the greatest and wealthiest power center on the globe, it does so without accountability to those who supply that power and wealth.
One of the secrets to Jewish ability to gain wealth is leverage -- they play with other people's money, future, institutions, lands, etc., and if the enterprise fails, Jews walk away and someone else pays the bills, suffers the consequences, cleans up after them while they go on to leverage another poor sucker.
A Darwinian view suggests that since individuals act, first as members of a social/racial group, that such actions need to be consistent with group survival in the long term.
That means some measure of respect and cooperation with other groups' Darwinian interests in survival and prosperity, especially when one's group is very small.
The only reason the jews are still here is religion, which is not rational except as a group solidarity kind of dynamic.
Protestantism long ago adopted jews as mascots for Jesus , strangely enough. Thus until that delusion among Protestants, especially the more rabid End-Timers wears out, Jews will always be with us.
That said, jews continue to insult Others, even Christians, and while their prestige is sagging dramatically, there is little sign that they will be rational enough to awaken to their relatively dangerous position.
Webb Principle # 4: mistakes are made by all, especially the angry ones.
Joe Webb
Your post is correct in that a mechanism exists - government - that is the legalized use of force against others. That is what is attracts the sociopaths with their drive to manipulate, control, and use others as objects. Self-interest backed by guns and no angels anywhere to be found who can resist it.
You and your ilk are the enablers, government is the drug, and the sociopaths are the addicts. You play your part without even an iota of awareness.
Look into the mirror if you want to see the root cause.
Replace "the Jews" with "Jews and non-Jews alike" and you would be accurate. You are tribal, right? Are you not minimizing your own tribe's colossal failures, moral failings, and intellectual inconsistencies?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321462
Any self-respecting international conspiracy will, of course, deny its existence. Conducting operations in the light of day shows a very wrong set of ideas in a conspirator!
A lot of emphasis is placed on the fact that the pressures placed on politicians are financial whereas many instances of policy reversal are so profound that personal blackmail seems a very credible alternative explanation. Obama (and Hillary’s) stunning reversal over the Jerusalem settlements issue is one striking example – or take the total capitulation of Justice Richard Goldstone following the publication of the UN report on the Gaza invasion of 2009.
It is reasonable to suppose that AIPAC and its various international affiliates employ a formidable army of zealots, diligently sifting through everybody’s dirty linen.
How Monica Lewinsky and her dress destroyed the Middle East Peace Accords
(How different would the world be if Clinton had been assassinated & JFK merely blackmailed)
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321465
Wow, with this all powerful Jewish – er, excuse me, Zionist – conspiracy that rules the world and the media and the Internet I don’t understand how Giraldi has the freedom to continually bash Israel the way he does.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321468
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/02/27/1647321/canadian-supreme-court-upholds-hate-speech-laws-against-anti-gay-activist/
I say fight fire with fire. We need to define 'hate speech' in our own way and call for banning it.
Ban Zionist speech because it hates Palestinians.
Ban feminist speech because it hates white males who did most to free women.
Ban rap music because it savagely hates civilized virtues.
Ban pro-illegal-immigration speech since it hates the rule of law.
Ban homo speech since it hates normality and true marriage.
Ban PC since it hates the truth.
Ban communist speech since it hates private property and upper classes.
Ban anti-fascist speech since it hates fascists.
Ban interracist speech since it hates racial solidarity.
Etc.
Hi, I’ve just checked your website (Alt Right Doodle & Search Engine). It’s really useful. I’ve linked to it on my own blog which is an aggregator for RSS feeds of Alt Right sites and blogs (it’s in the /Uncategorized Miscellany/ at the very bottom, on the right. Shitlord Hub
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321488
Judging from the 19 comments posted at this moment … Q.E.D.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321491
And let us also ignore the trillions the rest of the Middle East costs us. Ignore China's hacking and tampering and theft of software and technologies and military challenges (fleas, but still) and ignore the South Koreans and what they cost and ignore all the rest that dwarfs Israel. That's what you have to do to buy into the premise presented by this article. Jesus, what an anti Semitic hit piece, no offense intended.
Let’s not ignore the trillions spent on wars for Israel. I smell bagels. You are either an idiot Christian zionazi or a zionazi hasbara lizard earning a few shekels.
Gee, we haven't spent trillions on wars for Israel. Our wars are concentrated on violent Islamist terror, however pointless they may be. Nonetheless, you Muslims are so confused about living in the First World you simply can't handle it.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321513
http://www.gallup.com/poll/181652/seven-americans-continue-view-israel-favorably.aspx?g_source=COUNTRY_ISR&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles
Islamists sit in the Knesset, but any advocacy of Zionism leads to prison or worse in Iran.
Just admit to being an out-and-out Anti-Semite, there are plenty of friends at The Right Stuff who have gotten over the psychological shock.
What’s the name Muslim MK? Are you referring to Rabbi Baruch Efrati who claims that Jews are allowed to pray in a mosque but not in a church?
https://rehmat1.com/2012/01/28/rabbi-jews-can-pray-in-mosques/
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321515
“If Israel is truly first in their hearts and minds that is perfectly acceptable but its advocates should perhaps consider moving there and letting the rest of us be.”
You would have to dynamite these ticks out of their respective host nations. Jews are simply doing what Jews do: creating an intricate intelligence network that can be used to leverage influence for Jews worldwide, and Israel in particular. And they pursue this goal with a vehemence that is nothing short of demonic. They know that if they were ever forced to live in their own nation state, they would lose power and influence everywhere, because their intelligence apparatus would collapse. And that is what they will fight to the death to prevent.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321516
One of the comments Alan Greenspan made in the wake of the bank collapse in 2008 was that he was surprised that the banks weren't intelligent enough to have perceived the risk inherent in say, 200 : 1 leveraging (Lehmann) and would have realized that such actions would threaten the integrity of the system and that they, the banks, therefore would have refrained from such ultimately self defeating behavior.
So, these Jewish geniuses expect us to believe that persons acting selfishly will be capable of perceiving when their individual behavior may threaten the very existence of the system in which they operate and because it is ultimately "rational" to do so would therefore refrain from acting selfishly--all out of selfish motives? Am I the only one who finds this preposterously ludicrous? Not to mention illogical? Perhaps psychopathic?
There is a name for a person who at all times acts rationally to advance their personal gain and that is: sociopath. Another Jew, Ayn Rand, espouses this hyper, asocial psychopathy as a nostrum for all that ails society.
Speaking personally, I act, almost always, to preserve group harmony and cohesion (but then, I am a Scandinavian by heritage). I am always aware of the tension between what I want and how this would strain group relations. I am aware that were any of us to pursue their goals without any considerations for other people's way of thinking and feelings they would find themselves out of a job, alone and friendless and whats more, the system would not stand the strain were we all to pursue our private gain with no consideration for cooperation, compatibility and reconciliation. And obviously, since emotions play a role in my choices, I most certainly don't always act rationally. In all of this, I don't think that I am that different from other Western Europeans (or Japanese, Chinese etc.).
Now Greenspan tries to pull off what Sailer would describe as a "triple bank shot" by saying that "Yes, but in considering your individual self interest you would take into account group cohesion because you are thereby enhancing your individual self interest and so you will restrain yourself from acting in such a way as to undermine blah blah blah…". Horse puckey.
No person--and especially not a Jew--is capable of simultaneously holding in mind and processing every variable on all these different levels as they work through the infinitude of permutations likely to result from any specific action.
As usual, the Jews credit themselves with too much wisdom which leads one to suspect that their convoluted theories may be an elaborate cover to obfuscate the simple fact that they act to enhance their own self interest period--consequences be damned. Too bad if the rest of you get screwed in the process.
Krugman, von Neumann and Greenspan are elder spokesmen for the perspective of the Jewish People and they have spoken so let's do them the courtesy of taking them at their word. In their own words, their motives (which they then project onto the rest of the human race) are coldly-rational and self-interested always and all the time. One can see how this would put Jews in conflict with any society in which they find or found themselves.
So now, the Jews, with Netanyahu as their spokesman want to enact policies which place Jews above criticism for policies in which Jews pursue what they perceive to be their uniquely individual, rational self interest.
In light of the colossal failures, moral failings and intellectual inconsistencies listed above, is anyone else skeptical of Jew's ability to even see what is truly in their (larger) self interest, much less come up with a viable plan and acting on it?
brilliant comment.
especially this;
read somewhere just a few days ago that USA can and does act recklessly because it is so rich and powerful, whereas Russia must carefully weigh every move because it has far less ability to recover from errors.
Israel, with its talons deep in the US arteries and Treasury, has even more freedom of movement: not only does it have access to the greatest and wealthiest power center on the globe, it does so without accountability to those who supply that power and wealth.
One of the secrets to Jewish ability to gain wealth is leverage — they play with other people’s money, future, institutions, lands, etc., and if the enterprise fails, Jews walk away and someone else pays the bills, suffers the consequences, cleans up after them while they go on to leverage another poor sucker.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321519
Mr. Giraldi, not only powerful Jewish lobby groups exist in majority of western nations and Australia and New Zealand they have succeeded in turning those countries as Israeli satellites – thanks to local corrupt Christian law-makers.
The Jewish vengeance against Wallstrom can be found in Ingrid Carlqvist‘s January 24 article published by Israeli think tank, Gatestone Institute, entitled, Sweden: The Downfall of Wallstrom?. She is a Swedish journalist, author, and “distinguished senior fellow” at the think tank.
On January 22, Zvi Zameret, former director at Israel’s ministry of education came up with a way to shut Ms. Wallstrom up. In an Op-Ed at Makor Rishon newspaper owned by the US casino billionaire Sheldon he suggested that Margot Wallstrom, who made anti-Israel remarks recently needs the fate of UN mediator Swedish Count Folke Bernadotte, murdered by members of former Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Shamir’s Lehi terrorist group in 1948 (Mondoweiss, January 23, 2016).
Israeli Mossad has a history of eliminating Swedish politicians who dared to criticize Israeli policies…..
https://rehmat1.com/2016/01/25/swedish-fm-wallstrom-on-mossad-hit-list/
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321522
And of course, the Chinese keep themselves utterly free and unentangled by this nonsense, allowing the shabbosgoy Western leadership to alienate the rest of the world and especially the Muslim and Arab countries, while China just waits for the strategic fruit to ripen and fall right into its lap.
Amazing that the US had such an innate advantage vis-a-vis the Muslims, given our lack of restive Muslim minorities in contrast to Russia, China and India, and yet we have simply tossed away this huge strategic advantage because of the unrelenting and insidious connivance of disloyal international Jewry.
One can’t help but envy China. Imagine a nation-state possessing cultural anti-bodies that give it virtual immunity from the pestilence of Jewish/Zionist influence. Is there any way they could bottle it and sell it?
china or any asian country really, doesn't give a shit about jews or the holocaust. Hell I bet most of them have some bloody history of their own.
u envy
virtual immunity
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http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321523
Has there ever before been an empire in which the emperors did not wish to proclaim themselves to the masses? Oz?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321524
A lot of emphasis is placed on the fact that the pressures placed on politicians are financial whereas many instances of policy reversal are so profound that personal blackmail seems a very credible alternative explanation. Obama (and Hillary's) stunning reversal over the Jerusalem settlements issue is one striking example - or take the total capitulation of Justice Richard Goldstone following the publication of the UN report on the Gaza invasion of 2009.
It is reasonable to suppose that AIPAC and its various international affiliates employ a formidable army of zealots, diligently sifting through everybody's dirty linen.
Here’s why Bill Clinton didn’t hassle the Israelis.
How Monica Lewinsky and her dress destroyed the Middle East Peace Accords
(How different would the world be if Clinton had been assassinated & JFK merely blackmailed)
Ever hear of The Texas School book Depository? How about Deeley Plaza,
Grassy Knoll ...anyone ?
Just a casual look at history and the issues President Kennedy was dealing with at the time , vis a vis Israel. It's at least plausible.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321526
Your comment, ” I smell bagels. You are either an idiot Christian zionazi or a zionazi hasbara lizard earning a few shekels”, identifies you as a Palestinian goat herder that gets a chubby from his lambs. I guess facts don’t make it through to the streets your herd your Muslim-raped goats through.
Gee, we haven’t spent trillions on wars for Israel. Our wars are concentrated on violent Islamist terror, however pointless they may be. Nonetheless, you Muslims are so confused about living in the First World you simply can’t handle it.
Straight from Chapter One, page one of the Zionazi Handbook for Internet Hasbara Comments. Such lack of imagination. Oy vey.
Hmmm. Well, either Hasbara or some kind of redneck that knows all the latest sand land jibes.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321528
[…] By Philip Giraldi • Unz Recview • February 9, 2016 […]
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321537
Gee, we haven't spent trillions on wars for Israel. Our wars are concentrated on violent Islamist terror, however pointless they may be. Nonetheless, you Muslims are so confused about living in the First World you simply can't handle it.
” identifies you as a Palestinian goat herder that gets a chubby from his lambs. I guess facts don’t make it through to the streets your herd your Muslim-raped goats through.”
Straight from Chapter One, page one of the Zionazi Handbook for Internet Hasbara Comments. Such lack of imagination. Oy vey.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321556
Gee, we haven't spent trillions on wars for Israel. Our wars are concentrated on violent Islamist terror, however pointless they may be. Nonetheless, you Muslims are so confused about living in the First World you simply can't handle it.
And I ain’t Muslim, Moishe. Claiming only the people you zionazis are stealing from and killing detest you is another zionazi tactic. But you know better don’t you…
A zionazi is a strident true believer, a sane Jew is able to question any or all of the Israeli government's doings.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321560
That’s because there is no internal political pressure to legitimize those occupations as there is with Israel’s.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321572
I think,perhaps,what should NOT be too much to ask of Israel is..does it have a "Peace Plan" ?
Shouldn't any (and every) nation on this planet, in a state of belligerence, be required to present some form of resolution to its own conflict, that comports with international law ?
If so...then where is Israels plan for peace ?
What does it look like ?...what does it sound like ?
Where is it ?
Assume for a moment, Mr Giraldi, that you are at war with an enemy and that enemy has agreed to all the internationally mandated resolutions to the conflict...and you have not.
How is it possible that your enemy (who has agreed to the worlds terms for peace), is the terrorist in the equation...and not you ?
Israel has a done a tremendous job in selling to the world its "war on terror", but absent a viable peace plan of its own (and a willingness to implement it).....it may not be long before the label "terrorist" is, justifiably, turned on its own progenitor.
the zio peace plan: take the ME piece by piece
Joe Webb
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321578
“The Men Who Taste Jews in Their Sandwiches.”
http://takimag.com/article/the_men_who_taste_jews_in_their_sandwiches_jim_goad/print#ixzz3zgu804Wa
(Given your prior support for Israel, I've already made my guess.)
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321579
It’s also because the US isn’t being suckered into immoral wars, expending blood and treasure,, to defend China’s occupation of Tibet, etc.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321585
One of the comments Alan Greenspan made in the wake of the bank collapse in 2008 was that he was surprised that the banks weren't intelligent enough to have perceived the risk inherent in say, 200 : 1 leveraging (Lehmann) and would have realized that such actions would threaten the integrity of the system and that they, the banks, therefore would have refrained from such ultimately self defeating behavior.
So, these Jewish geniuses expect us to believe that persons acting selfishly will be capable of perceiving when their individual behavior may threaten the very existence of the system in which they operate and because it is ultimately "rational" to do so would therefore refrain from acting selfishly--all out of selfish motives? Am I the only one who finds this preposterously ludicrous? Not to mention illogical? Perhaps psychopathic?
There is a name for a person who at all times acts rationally to advance their personal gain and that is: sociopath. Another Jew, Ayn Rand, espouses this hyper, asocial psychopathy as a nostrum for all that ails society.
Speaking personally, I act, almost always, to preserve group harmony and cohesion (but then, I am a Scandinavian by heritage). I am always aware of the tension between what I want and how this would strain group relations. I am aware that were any of us to pursue their goals without any considerations for other people's way of thinking and feelings they would find themselves out of a job, alone and friendless and whats more, the system would not stand the strain were we all to pursue our private gain with no consideration for cooperation, compatibility and reconciliation. And obviously, since emotions play a role in my choices, I most certainly don't always act rationally. In all of this, I don't think that I am that different from other Western Europeans (or Japanese, Chinese etc.).
Now Greenspan tries to pull off what Sailer would describe as a "triple bank shot" by saying that "Yes, but in considering your individual self interest you would take into account group cohesion because you are thereby enhancing your individual self interest and so you will restrain yourself from acting in such a way as to undermine blah blah blah…". Horse puckey.
No person--and especially not a Jew--is capable of simultaneously holding in mind and processing every variable on all these different levels as they work through the infinitude of permutations likely to result from any specific action.
As usual, the Jews credit themselves with too much wisdom which leads one to suspect that their convoluted theories may be an elaborate cover to obfuscate the simple fact that they act to enhance their own self interest period--consequences be damned. Too bad if the rest of you get screwed in the process.
Krugman, von Neumann and Greenspan are elder spokesmen for the perspective of the Jewish People and they have spoken so let's do them the courtesy of taking them at their word. In their own words, their motives (which they then project onto the rest of the human race) are coldly-rational and self-interested always and all the time. One can see how this would put Jews in conflict with any society in which they find or found themselves.
So now, the Jews, with Netanyahu as their spokesman want to enact policies which place Jews above criticism for policies in which Jews pursue what they perceive to be their uniquely individual, rational self interest.
In light of the colossal failures, moral failings and intellectual inconsistencies listed above, is anyone else skeptical of Jew's ability to even see what is truly in their (larger) self interest, much less come up with a viable plan and acting on it?
good piece. I would only state that “rational” is insufficient when discussing just about anything.
A Darwinian view suggests that since individuals act, first as members of a social/racial group, that such actions need to be consistent with group survival in the long term.
That means some measure of respect and cooperation with other groups’ Darwinian interests in survival and prosperity, especially when one’s group is very small.
The only reason the jews are still here is religion, which is not rational except as a group solidarity kind of dynamic.
Protestantism long ago adopted jews as mascots for Jesus , strangely enough. Thus until that delusion among Protestants, especially the more rabid End-Timers wears out, Jews will always be with us.
That said, jews continue to insult Others, even Christians, and while their prestige is sagging dramatically, there is little sign that they will be rational enough to awaken to their relatively dangerous position.
Webb Principle # 4: mistakes are made by all, especially the angry ones.
Joe Webb
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321590
The above article is about the Zionists’ occupation of all major western nations. The Zionists’ occupation includes the suppression of free speech (when the truth is inconvenient for Israel), parasitic use of national resources of the US/EU for the benefits of Israel, and violation of international law for making Israelis/Zionists feel good. Now you are free to compare Zionists influence on the world politics with the influence of any other ethnic group.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321601
Israel wants a piece of Syria; a piece of Iraq; a piece of Saudi Arabia; a piece of Lebanon; a piece of Jordan; a piece of Turkey; a piece of Egypt and whatever pieces are left after they genocide Palestine out of existence.
You forgot mentioning that the US has become a host for the parasitic ziocons.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321607
http://takimag.com/article/the_men_who_taste_jews_in_their_sandwiches_jim_goad/print#ixzz3zgu804Wa
Are you aiming the point of Goad’s article at Phil….or at his accuser-trolls?
(Given your prior support for Israel, I’ve already made my guess.)
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321608
“Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government.”
The above is from Washington’s Farewell Address. Anybody remember him?
"Stanley "Stan" Fischer (Hebrew: סטנלי פישר; born October 15, 1943) is an economist and the vice chair of the U.S. Federal Reserve System…...he holds dual citizenship in Israel and the United States.[1] He served as governor of the Bank of Israel from 2005 to 2013. He previously served as chief economist at the World Bank.[2] On January 10, 2014, United States President Barack Obama nominated Fischer to be Vice-Chairman of the US Federal Reserve Board of Governors".
This puts a new gloss on "You're either for us or against us" and "We have met the enemy and he is us".
Who is us anyway? or as Porgie Tirebiter said, "Gee Dad, I don't see how you can be the people's prosecutor and my defense lawyer at the same time".
Dad, "Easy, son. This way I can persecute you to the fullest extent of the Law"
Porgie Tirebiter, "That's my Dad!"
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321610
Phil Giraldi’s excellent article (thanks again, Unz Review) is not only courageous but, to me, eye-opening. The facts on the global reach of Zionist intellectual intimidation have to frighten honest people, whether Gentile or Jew. But the Israel-Firsters had better be careful. Their machinations are rapidly removing the stigma from the epithet, “anti-Semite.”
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321613
The feminized Euro-cowards who rule Sweden should worry more about the Muslim immigration invasion they are submitting to and less about how Israel wrangles its Muslims. They should worry more about the ongoing rapes of lovely blond Swedish women by the Muslim invaders.
Sweden has too many feminists and feminazis in high office and too many metro-sexual and gay men in high office. Meanwhile The Israeli Jews who have their balls intact show the way to keep Muslims at bay. TRANSLATION: You mess with the bull and you will get the horns.
Through the centuries Islam has been the world’s most ruthless and most successful imperialism so I have zero sympathy for the Muslims trying to destroy Israel. They don’t want peace and justice with the Israeli Jews, they want Jihad and destruction of Israel.
"They don’t want peace and justice..." Could you tell the Unz readers, honestly, that the ziocons wants "peace and justice?" No way. Or you believe that the facts have "anti-semitic" bias? The waves of the undesirable muslims to Europe are the direct result of the aggressive wars in the Middle East by the US/EU. These wars were designed and promoted by the leading ziocons. See the above article that explains the power of Lobbies in the major western nations.
"Historically, Israel has always sought to dismember the countries surrounding her:" http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321617
One of the comments Alan Greenspan made in the wake of the bank collapse in 2008 was that he was surprised that the banks weren't intelligent enough to have perceived the risk inherent in say, 200 : 1 leveraging (Lehmann) and would have realized that such actions would threaten the integrity of the system and that they, the banks, therefore would have refrained from such ultimately self defeating behavior.
So, these Jewish geniuses expect us to believe that persons acting selfishly will be capable of perceiving when their individual behavior may threaten the very existence of the system in which they operate and because it is ultimately "rational" to do so would therefore refrain from acting selfishly--all out of selfish motives? Am I the only one who finds this preposterously ludicrous? Not to mention illogical? Perhaps psychopathic?
There is a name for a person who at all times acts rationally to advance their personal gain and that is: sociopath. Another Jew, Ayn Rand, espouses this hyper, asocial psychopathy as a nostrum for all that ails society.
Speaking personally, I act, almost always, to preserve group harmony and cohesion (but then, I am a Scandinavian by heritage). I am always aware of the tension between what I want and how this would strain group relations. I am aware that were any of us to pursue their goals without any considerations for other people's way of thinking and feelings they would find themselves out of a job, alone and friendless and whats more, the system would not stand the strain were we all to pursue our private gain with no consideration for cooperation, compatibility and reconciliation. And obviously, since emotions play a role in my choices, I most certainly don't always act rationally. In all of this, I don't think that I am that different from other Western Europeans (or Japanese, Chinese etc.).
Now Greenspan tries to pull off what Sailer would describe as a "triple bank shot" by saying that "Yes, but in considering your individual self interest you would take into account group cohesion because you are thereby enhancing your individual self interest and so you will restrain yourself from acting in such a way as to undermine blah blah blah…". Horse puckey.
No person--and especially not a Jew--is capable of simultaneously holding in mind and processing every variable on all these different levels as they work through the infinitude of permutations likely to result from any specific action.
As usual, the Jews credit themselves with too much wisdom which leads one to suspect that their convoluted theories may be an elaborate cover to obfuscate the simple fact that they act to enhance their own self interest period--consequences be damned. Too bad if the rest of you get screwed in the process.
Krugman, von Neumann and Greenspan are elder spokesmen for the perspective of the Jewish People and they have spoken so let's do them the courtesy of taking them at their word. In their own words, their motives (which they then project onto the rest of the human race) are coldly-rational and self-interested always and all the time. One can see how this would put Jews in conflict with any society in which they find or found themselves.
So now, the Jews, with Netanyahu as their spokesman want to enact policies which place Jews above criticism for policies in which Jews pursue what they perceive to be their uniquely individual, rational self interest.
In light of the colossal failures, moral failings and intellectual inconsistencies listed above, is anyone else skeptical of Jew's ability to even see what is truly in their (larger) self interest, much less come up with a viable plan and acting on it?
Thanks for your collectivist drivel.
Your post is correct in that a mechanism exists – government – that is the legalized use of force against others. That is what is attracts the sociopaths with their drive to manipulate, control, and use others as objects. Self-interest backed by guns and no angels anywhere to be found who can resist it.
You and your ilk are the enablers, government is the drug, and the sociopaths are the addicts. You play your part without even an iota of awareness.
Look into the mirror if you want to see the root cause.
You, on the other hand, are a self-centered idiot, so none of us can tell what you would do or how you will do it.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321619
I feel no affiliation to Israel. But nor do I feel they’re creepily sinister or demonic. They’re simply looking after their own interests – which aren’t always the same as our interests. We’d do better to imitate them than forcefully oppose them.
There are many SJW-type leftists and militant Muslims in the UK who think Israel is literally “the most evil country on the planet” ™. And it really, really isn’t. It’s not even the most evil country in the Middle East. The average Arab living in Israel proper (not the Occupied Territories) is probably better off than the average Arab in most of the Middle East. It’s far easier to be an out-of-the-closet gay Arab, or out-of-the-closet atheist Arab, in Israel than in Egypt.
France and Sweden are discovering that you can either have a strong Jewish community or a strong Muslim community, but you can’t have both. After Oona King lost Bethnal Green and Bow in 2005, the UK Labour party has avoided putting up Jewish candidates in constituencies with large numbers of Muslims.
Tough call. I think they are tied with several other countries but the rankings do change.
"They’re simply looking after their own interests"
Looking out for one's own interest is okay.
Looking out for one's own interest at someone else's expense without their approval is wrong.
Which is how nature, red in tooth and claw, works. I prefer going the other way and trying to thicken the rather thin veneer of civilization.
"France and Sweden are discovering that you can either have a strong Jewish community or a strong Muslim community"
Beside the fact that they let the ME rabble in, which is worse, low-function Muslim sociopaths or high-function Jewish sociopaths?
The problem is that Israel and its fifth column/lobby in the US essentially demand that the US sacrifice its interests to those of Israel. There is no way around this basic problem.Irrelevant.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321620
(Given your prior support for Israel, I've already made my guess.)
Did you read it?
The author has many questions about what he terms “The Jewish Question” (not original terminology, I know), and ends with:
The obsession with Jews and Israel is just plain nuts. No more or less nuts than than the Jews who label every criticism of Israel as anti-semitism. Matter of fact, it’s probably the same kind of nuts, just in a different wrapper.
There is a difference between rational thought and rationalization of feelings. I value rational thought.
In the past what I have also criticized is the refusal of “anti-Zionists” (or whatever the correct name might be) for failing to deal rationally with the obvious contributions of Islam to the conflict.
If you have read many of my posts you should realize that I do not think the problems are solvable. The world is headed for population-reducing wars regardless of what anyone does and the problems in the ME, though significant, are not the worst. There will be no winners, just survivors, and they will assign guilt as they wish.
So it goes.
Joe Webb
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321627
“…I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
Kibbutz mentality is not welcome in America.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321628
It is easy to identify the Zionazi Syndrome.
A zionazi is a strident true believer, a sane Jew is able to question any or all of the Israeli government’s doings.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321630
The above is from Washington's Farewell Address. Anybody remember him?
Does the following (from Wiki) constitute “foreign influence”?
“Stanley “Stan” Fischer (Hebrew: סטנלי פישר; born October 15, 1943) is an economist and the vice chair of the U.S. Federal Reserve System……he holds dual citizenship in Israel and the United States.[1] He served as governor of the Bank of Israel from 2005 to 2013. He previously served as chief economist at the World Bank.[2] On January 10, 2014, United States President Barack Obama nominated Fischer to be Vice-Chairman of the US Federal Reserve Board of Governors”.
This puts a new gloss on “You’re either for us or against us” and “We have met the enemy and he is us”.
Who is us anyway? or as Porgie Tirebiter said, “Gee Dad, I don’t see how you can be the people’s prosecutor and my defense lawyer at the same time”.
Dad, “Easy, son. This way I can persecute you to the fullest extent of the Law”
Porgie Tirebiter, “That’s my Dad!”
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321631
Your post is correct in that a mechanism exists - government - that is the legalized use of force against others. That is what is attracts the sociopaths with their drive to manipulate, control, and use others as objects. Self-interest backed by guns and no angels anywhere to be found who can resist it.
You and your ilk are the enablers, government is the drug, and the sociopaths are the addicts. You play your part without even an iota of awareness.
Look into the mirror if you want to see the root cause.
Um, I’m the guy who, when driving my car and making a turn, uses his signal and moves with alacrity so as not to inconvenience you, the driver behind me.
You, on the other hand, are a self-centered idiot, so none of us can tell what you would do or how you will do it.
"You, on the other hand, are a self-centered idiot, so none of us can tell what you would do or how you will do it."
Treat political beliefs like religious beliefs and allow others to opt out of whatever you and the other government lovers believe in. You are not God, and 7+ billion of your kind are not God, so stop pretending that you are. You and those you elect can't run jack shit except to destroy it. Why don't you mull over all the death and destruction government has caused in its history - only a fool or the devil could want it.
The world is government run, and like many many times in the past, it's going to hell because of it.
Way past time to try something different.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321639
“Zio-supremacists are still pressure governments, still bribing candidates, still distorting history, still censoring critics, and still manipulating public opinion for their own tribal benefit. Their intimidating, global reach undermines the sovereignty and moral rectitude of every host country.”
Replace “Zio-supremacists” with “Zio-supremacists and Anti-Jew conspiracists” and you are spot on.
“Jewish supremacism is real.”
Are you impotent as a non-Jew to actually counteract their alleged world-wide reach?
I prefer humanity rather than a particular identity. Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.
Are YOU impotent to bring about your "pro-humanity" vision? And what do you do when different segments of humanity clash with one another?
Do you favor the Eastern European Jewish conquest of Palestine and the gradual ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people? How does your "pro-humanity" vision work in practice? What does it even mean?
Ask the media to report what the interest of Sheldon in buying the GOP hopefuls and holding the pre caucus screening ?
You will see a lot of impotent around walking talking and lecturing .
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321648
There are many SJW-type leftists and militant Muslims in the UK who think Israel is literally “the most evil country on the planet” ™. And it really, really isn’t. It’s not even the most evil country in the Middle East. The average Arab living in Israel proper (not the Occupied Territories) is probably better off than the average Arab in most of the Middle East. It’s far easier to be an out-of-the-closet gay Arab, or out-of-the-closet atheist Arab, in Israel than in Egypt.
France and Sweden are discovering that you can either have a strong Jewish community or a strong Muslim community, but you can’t have both. After Oona King lost Bethnal Green and Bow in 2005, the UK Labour party has avoided putting up Jewish candidates in constituencies with large numbers of Muslims.
“who think Israel is literally “the most evil country on the planet” ™”
Tough call. I think they are tied with several other countries but the rankings do change.
“They’re simply looking after their own interests”
Looking out for one’s own interest is okay.
Looking out for one’s own interest at someone else’s expense without their approval is wrong.
Which is how nature, red in tooth and claw, works. I prefer going the other way and trying to thicken the rather thin veneer of civilization.
“France and Sweden are discovering that you can either have a strong Jewish community or a strong Muslim community”
Beside the fact that they let the ME rabble in, which is worse, low-function Muslim sociopaths or high-function Jewish sociopaths?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321650
One of the comments Alan Greenspan made in the wake of the bank collapse in 2008 was that he was surprised that the banks weren't intelligent enough to have perceived the risk inherent in say, 200 : 1 leveraging (Lehmann) and would have realized that such actions would threaten the integrity of the system and that they, the banks, therefore would have refrained from such ultimately self defeating behavior.
So, these Jewish geniuses expect us to believe that persons acting selfishly will be capable of perceiving when their individual behavior may threaten the very existence of the system in which they operate and because it is ultimately "rational" to do so would therefore refrain from acting selfishly--all out of selfish motives? Am I the only one who finds this preposterously ludicrous? Not to mention illogical? Perhaps psychopathic?
There is a name for a person who at all times acts rationally to advance their personal gain and that is: sociopath. Another Jew, Ayn Rand, espouses this hyper, asocial psychopathy as a nostrum for all that ails society.
Speaking personally, I act, almost always, to preserve group harmony and cohesion (but then, I am a Scandinavian by heritage). I am always aware of the tension between what I want and how this would strain group relations. I am aware that were any of us to pursue their goals without any considerations for other people's way of thinking and feelings they would find themselves out of a job, alone and friendless and whats more, the system would not stand the strain were we all to pursue our private gain with no consideration for cooperation, compatibility and reconciliation. And obviously, since emotions play a role in my choices, I most certainly don't always act rationally. In all of this, I don't think that I am that different from other Western Europeans (or Japanese, Chinese etc.).
Now Greenspan tries to pull off what Sailer would describe as a "triple bank shot" by saying that "Yes, but in considering your individual self interest you would take into account group cohesion because you are thereby enhancing your individual self interest and so you will restrain yourself from acting in such a way as to undermine blah blah blah…". Horse puckey.
No person--and especially not a Jew--is capable of simultaneously holding in mind and processing every variable on all these different levels as they work through the infinitude of permutations likely to result from any specific action.
As usual, the Jews credit themselves with too much wisdom which leads one to suspect that their convoluted theories may be an elaborate cover to obfuscate the simple fact that they act to enhance their own self interest period--consequences be damned. Too bad if the rest of you get screwed in the process.
Krugman, von Neumann and Greenspan are elder spokesmen for the perspective of the Jewish People and they have spoken so let's do them the courtesy of taking them at their word. In their own words, their motives (which they then project onto the rest of the human race) are coldly-rational and self-interested always and all the time. One can see how this would put Jews in conflict with any society in which they find or found themselves.
So now, the Jews, with Netanyahu as their spokesman want to enact policies which place Jews above criticism for policies in which Jews pursue what they perceive to be their uniquely individual, rational self interest.
In light of the colossal failures, moral failings and intellectual inconsistencies listed above, is anyone else skeptical of Jew's ability to even see what is truly in their (larger) self interest, much less come up with a viable plan and acting on it?
“As usual, the Jews credit themselves with too much wisdom which leads one to suspect that their convoluted theories may be an elaborate cover to obfuscate the simple fact that they act to enhance their own self interest period–consequences be damned. Too bad if the rest of you get screwed in the process.”
Replace “the Jews” with “Jews and non-Jews alike” and you would be accurate. You are tribal, right? Are you not minimizing your own tribe’s colossal failures, moral failings, and intellectual inconsistencies?
My tribe's colossal failures et al are not at issue here. We were discussing the fact that Netanyahu specifically and Zionist interest groups generally are using their clout to implement legislation in foreign nations that would inhibit free speech when that speech casts a negative light on Israeli aggression and hypocrisy.
My feelings about Israel's right to either defend itself or to expand its borders, peacefully or through war, have nothing whatsoever to do with my reaction to the restriction of my rights to free speech in my own country--especially when this infringement is undertaken by a foreign power.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321655
Does India have an Israeli Lobby too? They are Israel’s largest arms client. Does China have an Israeli lobby, the subsaharan African countries? All of those countries have good relations with Israel for the Islamic ones and SA.
Sorry Phil, can’t blame everything on “the Lobby”.
You're desperately reaching, Greasy Hasbara
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321659
Islamic and Arabic societies have a lot of problems, no doubt, but they are essentially in the right in the conflict with Israel and the US. The fact that Muslims do some objectionable things does not imply they deserve the lions share of the blame, or even an equal share. Focusing on the Jewish role in the instability in the ME is neither irrational nor counterproductive.
The Jews of the Middle East would be suffering the same fate as the Christians except for one fact. They have their own nation and plenty of firepower.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321668
You, on the other hand, are a self-centered idiot, so none of us can tell what you would do or how you will do it.
Nice reply for a third grader.
“You, on the other hand, are a self-centered idiot, so none of us can tell what you would do or how you will do it.”
Treat political beliefs like religious beliefs and allow others to opt out of whatever you and the other government lovers believe in. You are not God, and 7+ billion of your kind are not God, so stop pretending that you are. You and those you elect can’t run jack shit except to destroy it. Why don’t you mull over all the death and destruction government has caused in its history – only a fool or the devil could want it.
The world is government run, and like many many times in the past, it’s going to hell because of it.
Way past time to try something different.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321675
all these years and Jews still can’t get over not having the same global reach and presence as the Vatican.
A lot of people don’t like Catholics, but they don’t spend 3/4 of their lives whining that “everybody hates us.”
They don’t start wars in other people’s countries.
They don’t try to destroy other people’s economies.
They don’t insinuate themselves into other people’s governments and institutions and demand special favors.
True, Catholics defend their interests where they conflict with those of a particular government or institution.
But they don’t do so by killing people (not recently, anyway) or blackmailing them or threatening their careers.
They try to get along.
Even with Israelis.
Just a few days ago the Pope met with the leader of Iran. It has not been reported if either man had a lightening rod installed in his head.
Maybe Jews could take a lesson from the way the Vatican and institutional Roman Catholicism has reformed and revised and rethought its ways of relating with its neighbors and the rest of the people in the world, to the extent that the Vatican now has friendly diplomatic relations — and respect — in all of these states and international institutions:
Algiers (Apostolic Nunciature)
Angola
Luanda (Apostolic Nunciature)
Benin
Cotonou (Apostolic Nunciature)
Burundi
Bujumbura (Apostolic Nunciature)
Cameroon
Yaoundé (Apostolic Nunciature)
Central African Republic
Bangui (Apostolic Nunciature)
Chad
N’Djamena (Apostolic Nunciature)
Republic of the Congo
Brazzaville (Apostolic Nunciature)
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Kinshasa (Apostolic Nunciature)
Cote d’Ivoire
Abidjan (Apostolic Nunciature)
Egypt
Cairo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Ethiopia
Addis Ababa (Apostolic Nunciature)
Gabon
Libreville (Apostolic Nunciature)
Ghana
Accra (Apostolic Nunciature)
Guinea
Conakry (Apostolic Nunciature)
Kenya
Nairobi (Apostolic Nunciature)
Madagascar
Antananarivo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Morocco
Rabat (Apostolic Nunciature)
Mozambique
Maputo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Nigeria
Abuja (Apostolic Nunciature)
Rwanda
Kigali (Apostolic Nunciature)
Senegal
Dakar (Apostolic Nunciature)
South Africa
Pretoria (Apostolic Nunciature)
South Sudan
Juba (Apostolic Nunciature)[4]
Sudan
Khartoum (Apostolic Nunciature)
Tanzania
Dar es Salaam (Apostolic Nunciature)
Uganda
Kampala (Apostolic Nunciature)
Zambia
Lusaka (Apostolic Nunciature)
Zimbabwe
Harare (Apostolic Nunciature)
Americas[edit]
Antigua and Barbuda
St. John’s (Apostolic Nunciature)
Argentina
Buenos Aires (Apostolic Nunciature)
Bolivia
La Paz (Apostolic Nunciature)
Brazil
Brasília (Apostolic Nunciature)
Canada
Ottawa (Apostolic Nunciature)
Chile
Santiago (Apostolic Nunciature)
Colombia
Bogotá (Apostolic Nunciature)
Costa Rica
San José (Apostolic Nunciature)
Cuba
Havana (Apostolic Nunciature)
Dominican Republic
Santo Domingo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Ecuador
Quito (Apostolic Nunciature)
El Salvador
San Salvador (Apostolic Nunciature)
Guatemala
Guatemala City (Apostolic Nunciature)
Haiti
Port-au-Prince (Apostolic Nunciature)
Honduras
Tegucigalpa (Apostolic Nunciature)
Mexico
Mexico City (Apostolic Nunciature)
Nicaragua
Managua (Apostolic Nunciature)
Panama
Panama City (Apostolic Nunciature)
Paraguay
Asunción (Apostolic Nunciature)
Peru
Lima (Apostolic Nunciature)
Trinidad and Tobago
Port of Spain (Apostolic Nunciature)
United States
Washington, D.C. (Apostolic Nunciature)
Uruguay
Montevideo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Venezuela
Caracas (Apostolic Nunciature)
Asia[edit]
Bangladesh
Dhaka (Apostolic Nunciature)
Republic of China
Taipei (Apostolic Nunciature)
Georgia
Tbilisi (Apostolic Nunciature)
India
New Delhi (Apostolic Nunciature)
Indonesia
Jakarta (Apostolic Nunciature)
Iran
Tehran (Apostolic Nunciature)
Iraq
Baghdad (Apostolic Nunciature)
Israel
Tel Aviv (Apostolic Nunciature)
Jerusalem (Apostolic Delegation)
Japan
Tokyo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Jordan
Amman (Apostolic Nunciature)
Kazakhstan
Astana (Apostolic Nunciature)
Kyrgyzstan
Bishkek (Apostolic Nunciature)
Republic of Korea
Seoul (Apostolic Nunciature)
Kuwait
Kuwait City (Apostolic Nunciature)
Lebanon
Harissa (Apostolic Nunciature)
Malaysia
Kuala Lumpur (Apostolic Nunciature)
Pakistan
Islamabad (Apostolic Nunciature)
Philippines
Manila (Apostolic Nunciature)
Singapore
Singapore (Apostolic Nunciature)
Sri Lanka
Colombo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Syria
Damascus (Apostolic Nunciature)
Thailand
Bangkok (Apostolic Nunciature)
Turkey
Ankara (Apostolic Nunciature)
Turkmenistan
Ashgabat (Apostolic Nunciature)
Uzbekistan
Tashkent (Apostolic Nunciature)
Europe[edit]
Albania
Tirana (Apostolic Nunciature)
Austria
Vienna (Apostolic Nunciature)
Belarus
Minsk (Apostolic Nunciature)
Belgium
Brussels (Apostolic Nunciature)
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Sarajevo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Bulgaria
Sofia (Apostolic Nunciature)
Croatia
Zagreb (Apostolic Nunciature)
Cyprus
Nicosia (Apostolic Nunciature)
Czech Republic
Prague (Apostolic Nunciature)
France
Paris (Apostolic Nunciature)
Strasbourg (Office)
Germany
Berlin (Apostolic Nunciature)
Greece
Athens (Apostolic Nunciature)
Hungary
Budapest (Apostolic Nunciature)
Ireland
Dublin (Apostolic Nunciature)
Italy
Rome (Apostolic Nunciature)
Lithuania
Vilnius (Apostolic Nunciature)
Malta
Rabat (Apostolic Nunciature)
Netherlands
The Hague (Apostolic Nunciature)
Poland
Warsaw (Apostolic Nunciature)
Portugal
Lisbon (Apostolic Nunciature)
Romania
Bucharest (Apostolic Nunciature)
Russia
Moscow (Apostolic Nunciature)
San Marino
San Marino (Apostolic Nunciature)
Serbia
Belgrade (Apostolic Nunciature)
Slovakia
Bratislava (Apostolic Nunciature)
Slovenia
Ljubljana (Apostolic Nunciature)
Spain
Madrid (Apostolic Nunciature)
Sweden
Stockholm (Apostolic Nunciature)
Switzerland
Bern (Apostolic Nunciature)
Ukraine
Kiev (Apostolic Nunciature)
United Kingdom
London (Apostolic Nunciature)
Oceania[edit]
Australia
Canberra (Apostolic Nunciature)
New Zealand
Wellington (Apostolic Nunciature)
Papua New Guinea
Port Moresby (Apostolic Nunciature)
Multilateral organisations[edit]
Permanent Observer of the Holy See to the United Nations (at the headquarters of the U.N.) (New York)
Permanent Observer of Holy See to the United Nations (at the European office of the U.N.) (Geneva)
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321676
http://www.gallup.com/poll/181652/seven-americans-continue-view-israel-favorably.aspx?g_source=COUNTRY_ISR&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles
Islamists sit in the Knesset, but any advocacy of Zionism leads to prison or worse in Iran.
Just admit to being an out-and-out Anti-Semite, there are plenty of friends at The Right Stuff who have gotten over the psychological shock.
There’s nothing wrong with being an “antisemite”. It’s a normal, healthy, righteous reaction to Zionist racism, thievery, & violence.
Not to mention the billions in US taxpayers money supremacist Jews extract from the controlled US Govt. each year.
Who runs the Federal Reserve?
Who runs Wall Street?
Who owns the US Congress?
Who owns the White House?
Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
Who runs the media / entertainment?
Who dominates ‘academia’?
Why is AIPAC the most powerful, dominant lobby, which regularly writes the text of Congressional bills and resolutions?
Who is it that wants to censor free speech via the “hate speech” canard?
Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?
Who are the biggest racists on the planet?
http://news.sky.com/story/678761/israeli-army-t-shirts-mock-gaza-killings
‘Israeli Army T-Shirts Mock Gaza Killings’
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Mar/Week3/118790/default/v0/15245789-522×293.jpg
Pregnant women and children being targeted by Jews.
and:
Two teenage Israeli girls carrying a placard in Hebrew reading: “Hating Arabs is not racism, it’s values.”
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02962/jewish-girls_2962213c.jpg
eemingly endless Zionist organizations engaged in propaganda
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-tech-site-paying-interns-covertly-plant-stories-social-media
Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook
Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6175
Jewish Internet Defense Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force
Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189
I guess they taught you to respect Jews while they sang the Horst Wessel as a lullaby to you.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321684
It’s almost like the German NatSocs were onto something….
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321688
Sorry Phil, can't blame everything on "the Lobby".
“Good relation$” only for those who buy and sell arms.
You’re desperately reaching, Greasy Hasbara
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321690
Sweden has too many feminists and feminazis in high office and too many metro-sexual and gay men in high office. Meanwhile The Israeli Jews who have their balls intact show the way to keep Muslims at bay. TRANSLATION: You mess with the bull and you will get the horns.
Through the centuries Islam has been the world's most ruthless and most successful imperialism so I have zero sympathy for the Muslims trying to destroy Israel. They don't want peace and justice with the Israeli Jews, they want Jihad and destruction of Israel.
Sounds like another approach to demonizing the honest Margot Wallstrom. So what was the rationale for murdering Folke Bernadotte, another good person from Sweden, by the Israeli terrorists? He was not a feminize. Moreover, during the WWII, Bernadotte “negotiated the release of about 31,000 prisoners from German concentration camps including 450 Danish Jews from the Theresienstadt camp.” Still not kosher enough?
“They don’t want peace and justice…” Could you tell the Unz readers, honestly, that the ziocons wants “peace and justice?” No way. Or you believe that the facts have “anti-semitic” bias? The waves of the undesirable muslims to Europe are the direct result of the aggressive wars in the Middle East by the US/EU. These wars were designed and promoted by the leading ziocons. See the above article that explains the power of Lobbies in the major western nations.
“Historically, Israel has always sought to dismember the countries surrounding her:” http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321701
Sorry Phil, can't blame everything on "the Lobby".
Have India and China led the wars of aggression in the Middle East against the formerly functioning states of Iraq, Libya, and Syria?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321704
Replace "the Jews" with "Jews and non-Jews alike" and you would be accurate. You are tribal, right? Are you not minimizing your own tribe's colossal failures, moral failings, and intellectual inconsistencies?
“Are you not minimizing your own tribe’s colossal failures…”
My tribe’s colossal failures et al are not at issue here. We were discussing the fact that Netanyahu specifically and Zionist interest groups generally are using their clout to implement legislation in foreign nations that would inhibit free speech when that speech casts a negative light on Israeli aggression and hypocrisy.
My feelings about Israel’s right to either defend itself or to expand its borders, peacefully or through war, have nothing whatsoever to do with my reaction to the restriction of my rights to free speech in my own country–especially when this infringement is undertaken by a foreign power.
And there is the fact that your tribe has also engaged in similar actions against real and perceived threats. Any group inside or outside America that fails to meet your standards must be expunged or expelled or liquidated.
"My feelings about Israel’s right to either defend itself or to expand its borders, peacefully or through war, have nothing whatsoever to do with my reaction to the restriction of my rights to free speech in my own country–especially when this infringement is undertaken by a foreign power."
That is an observably false statement. You are able to speak your mind on a wide range of topics in the open square. Israel or Saudi Arabia or Luxembourg are not interfering with your liberty in this regard. Indeed, there are consequences for one's opinions. Free speech has never been free.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321705
You all realize, of course, that Charlie Hebdo also spells “Heb liar code”…… well, really close anyway.
A fine reminder by Mr. Giraldi that if we’re ever going to live in a peaceful, just and fair world, the Worlds Oldest Ethnic Mafia needs to be…… well……
I’m not a Christian, but I’d recommend John Ch. 8 if you want to understand what we’re really dealing with here.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321712
People always viscerally hate those smarter than themselves. Every group tries to advance its position. The best manage to do so. It is no secret that there is more brainpower in Israel than in most societies so they win more often.
But look at who they are fighting against. People like the author and the people commenting here. People who take out big mortgages then think lending is a conspiracy against them. It must be hard not to win everything sometimes.
These type of echo chambers solve a real purpose . Without them we would find more alt right wn types taking the dylan roof route. This way they take out their frustration and inadequacies in comment sections harmlessly . People forget these comments minutes after reading them . The commenters become obsessed with jews and spend all their time online reading and posting conspiracy nonsense , thusly getting soft and even more unhealthy in the process. The jew wins again. LoL . Decks stacked against you white man !!! Damned if you do , damned if you dont !!!
"People always viscerally hate those smarter than themselves." Inadvertently, you have reminded the readers about the zionists' visceral hatred towards the civilization of Iran. The ancient state of Iran, that existed for thousands of years, had made an enormous contribution to the western civilization, whereas the ancient Jewish state had been of some significance for a speckle of 200 years and as for the greatness of the noble moral tradition of Judaism it is of no interest for zionists. (The ancient Israel also survived by a borrowed monotheism and by some rather unpleasant stories, like the one told on Purim). The absolute majority of all Jewish achievements in the modern sciences and fine arts have been accomplished in the context of other nations' cultural development. This obvious facts does not diminish in the least the achievements, but it hopefully could help you to get a different perspective on your idea of smartness. You have perhaps also noticed that while the world Jewry is very fond of the fairy of tale of a motherland-Israel in the Middle East, the majority of smartest Jewish people have no desire to live there. The newcomers to Israel have been predominantly economic migrants. For instance, the smartest Soviet Jews tried their best to avoid going to Israel and/or used Israel as a transit to other countries.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321731
and yet there are almost zero news articles about chinese occupation of tibet , turkish occupation of cyprus , indonesian occupation of papua , moroccan occupation of western sahara ……….
This is Jew 101 – always point out that others are bad – thus Jews can be bad. The West condemns these states for what they do – thus Israel must be condemned.
Of course the big lie is that Zionist Israel is a Wester state – it is not.
Western states do not hide their nukes.
Wester states are not apartheid states.
Western states do not imprison a million people as in Gaza.
Western states do not allow white sex slavery.
Wester states do not have a state religion.
Israel is a Jewish state – not a Western state.
By all standards – Israel is an evil state.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321733
Pinochet overthrow, 1980 October Surprise, Iran-Contra and Doug Coe associate which is likely related to the suppressed Discovery Channel documentary "Conspiracy of Silence" where tours of the White House were given to minors prior to rapes by political figures with (obvious and clear) ties to power at the pinnacle.
https://vimeo.com/76198401
That's likely the tip of the iceberg. It never ceases to amaze how perception of George H.W. Bush is rehabilitated for the fact of crimes by his ignorant spawn.
Thankyou
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321739
Using the word “lobby” to describe Jew political activity is a lie. They are an army taught from birth to follow their tribal leaders.
One wonders why Jews in the face of all the evil that Israel does – still support it?
It is their culture from birth to do so. The truth is that a Jew is a Jew is a Jew – they can NEVER be one of us – when called upon, they will lie, intimidate, and even maim for their leaders. They have no scruples when it comes to tribal matters. The will conspire to advance Jew power – nothing is sacred, but tribe.
With the creation of Israel, most every Jew is a fifth column in the country where they reside.
The Jew are more then a lobby – they are a tribal army.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321744
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/02/08/jane-fonda-dangerous-trump-creating-young-terrorists-racism/
What a joke. This is what happens in a nation where we cannot speak the truth. Yes, the truth about Jewish Power. If any people are to blame for Muslim terrorism, it is Jews. Jews ethnically cleansed Palestinians, which is why Palestinians turned to terror to resist Zionism(just like Algerians used terrorism against French Imperialism). Also, the Middle East was mostly stable before the Gulf War. Who led the US into that war? Neocon Jews in the first Bush administration.
Yes, there were always terrorists, but most of the Middle East was ruled by strongmen who got tough with terrorists in their own nations. Hussein didn’t tolerate terrorists in Iraq. Iranian government didn’t tolerate terrorists in Iran. Assad didn’t tolerate terrorists in Syria. Military government in Algeria used all its might to suppress jihadis there. Gaddaffy didn’t tolerate terrorists in Libya. Of course, these governments sometimes sponsored terrorism against OTHER nations, but Israel and US were no different in this. Israel created Hamas to fight the PLO. Israel aided Christian terrorists against Muslim terrorists in Lebanon. US aided Mujahadeen terrorists in Afghanistan the Soviet-backed government.
Even so, the Middle East and North Africa had been mostly stable for the simple reason that most nations had strongmen at the helm to clamp down on terrorism in their own nations. The most effective enemy of terrorism is the powerful state. State power can hunt down terrorists and prevent terror from spreading like a cancer.
But US’s so-called “War on Terror” pursued policies that could only lead to the increase in terrorism. War on Terror toppled the strongman in Iraq. So, Iraq became a hotbed of free lance terrorists. US toppled Gaddafi in Libya, and North Africa became a free zone of terrorists. Without a strongman to keep things under lid, terrorist ran riot. This was a replay of what the US did with Afghanistan. If the Soviet-backed government in Kabul had been left alone, it would have consolidated power. But US subverted Afghanistan, thus leading to the eventual toppling of the Kabul government and the takeover of Afghanistan by all sorts of terrorist groups.
US then ‘Afghanized’ Iraq and Libya. And then, US worked with its allies(Israel, Saudis, Turkey) to ‘Afghanize’ Syria, and Syria is now a battleground with terrorists running riot all around.
Why did US policy take this turn? Because globalist-Zionists gained total power of US government, media, finance, and cuck politicians who do little else but sing hosannas to Israel and bend over to Jewish demands. The so-called War on Terror has become War FOR Terror.
After all, there is no better way to increase terrorism than by destabilizing governments in places like Iraq, Libya, and Syria. Without strong central authority, every clan or tribe can pick up AK-47s & bombs, get funding from cynical Saudi Wahabis, and raise hell all over the place.
I think this was intentional on the part of Jewish Power Elite. Jews claim to do one thing but do the very opposite. Jews want Israel to be the only great power in the region. And that mean weakening and destroying other nations in the region. And what better way to destroy them than by weakening their central governments and letting terrorists fill the vacuum.
But since Jews own the media, we are supposed to believe that the likes of Clinton, Bush II, and Obama have been doing their utmost to wage war on terror. What a joke.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321746
My tribe's colossal failures et al are not at issue here. We were discussing the fact that Netanyahu specifically and Zionist interest groups generally are using their clout to implement legislation in foreign nations that would inhibit free speech when that speech casts a negative light on Israeli aggression and hypocrisy.
My feelings about Israel's right to either defend itself or to expand its borders, peacefully or through war, have nothing whatsoever to do with my reaction to the restriction of my rights to free speech in my own country--especially when this infringement is undertaken by a foreign power.
“My tribe’s colossal failures et al are not at issue here. We were discussing the fact that Netanyahu specifically and Zionist interest groups generally are using their clout to implement legislation in foreign nations that would inhibit free speech when that speech casts a negative light on Israeli aggression and hypocrisy.”
And there is the fact that your tribe has also engaged in similar actions against real and perceived threats. Any group inside or outside America that fails to meet your standards must be expunged or expelled or liquidated.
“My feelings about Israel’s right to either defend itself or to expand its borders, peacefully or through war, have nothing whatsoever to do with my reaction to the restriction of my rights to free speech in my own country–especially when this infringement is undertaken by a foreign power.”
That is an observably false statement. You are able to speak your mind on a wide range of topics in the open square. Israel or Saudi Arabia or Luxembourg are not interfering with your liberty in this regard. Indeed, there are consequences for one’s opinions. Free speech has never been free.
" That is why any negative story [or comment, in this case] appearing in the U.S. about Israel is immediately inundated with pro-Israel comments, many of which make exactly the same coordinated points while exhibiting the same somewhat less than perfect English [or Logic, in your case]."
Your responses are off target and incoherent.
Woo - what a lie - if I send a letter to the editor of any paper in America, complaining about Israeli nukes - it will not be publish - you know that! The editor would lose his job if he published it.
See - you will get in people's face and tell any lie for your tribe.
Does the concept of karma have relevance to the Jew?
Art
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321748
Not to mention the billions in US taxpayers money supremacist Jews extract from the controlled US Govt. each year.Who runs the Federal Reserve?
Who runs Wall Street?
Who owns the US Congress?
Who owns the White House?
Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible '6M & gas chambers'?
Who runs the media / entertainment?
Who dominates 'academia'?
Why is AIPAC the most powerful, dominant lobby, which regularly writes the text of Congressional bills and resolutions?
Who is it that wants to censor free speech via the "hate speech" canard?
Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?
Who are the biggest racists on the planet?http://news.sky.com/story/678761/israeli-army-t-shirts-mock-gaza-killings
'Israeli Army T-Shirts Mock Gaza Killings'http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Mar/Week3/118790/default/v0/15245789-522x293.jpg
Pregnant women and children being targeted by Jews.and:
Two teenage Israeli girls carrying a placard in Hebrew reading: "Hating Arabs is not racism, it's values."
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02962/jewish-girls_2962213c.jpgeemingly endless Zionist organizations engaged in propagandahttp://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-tech-site-paying-interns-covertly-plant-stories-social-media
Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook
Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebookhttp://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6175Jewish Internet Defense Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_ForceZionist Wikipedia Editing Course http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189
And I thought your parents taught you to respect Jews.
I guess they taught you to respect Jews while they sang the Horst Wessel as a lullaby to you.
And don't try the 'Horst Wessel' & the debunked 6,000,000 crap.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321749
Dear Mr Giraldi,
Thanks for an excellent article.
We need a tough gutsy POTUS to win the next election.
One that will not merely stand up to the lobby…..but put the vast majority of its wealthiest and most powerful proponents where they belong……Federal prison or Guantanamo Bay.
The charges should be nearly self-evident by now.
“Conspiracy to Defraud the United States of America” and “Conspiracy to Commit a Terrorist act”.
This should include several dozen CEO’s and owners of all the major networks and newspapers who defrauded Americans out of trillions of dollars to initiate an illegal war of aggression in Iraq.
This “clean sweep” initiative would yield close to one trillion dollars to the american taxpayer, right out of the gate, ( with perhaps more down the line)… and act as potent exorcising tonic to all our representatives in Government trapped under the lobby’s twin spells of extortion and bribery.
It would alleviate the pressure on our “news personalities” to continue defrauding Americans by auctioning up the lobby owned media enterprises( in which they are employed ) to fresh bidders unconnected to the lobby’s international campaign of terrorism and perpetual war..
Not only would this bold action by the POTUS, stabilize the economy, but it would dramatically arrest the free fall , 19 trillion dollar (and counting) national debt the Lobby’s pernicious overspending has generated.
It would profoundly revitalize our country’s ability to debate the ways we can most rapidly HEAL our Nation after the decade and a half of brutal ,lobby induced, terroristic, top- down totalitarianism.
It would permit the G.A.O. to go to work again…with some real bite…and help restore a modicum of efficiency to our Military spending.
The next POTUS could be a true Robin Hood, who ends up hanging the lobby( quite deservedly) with the self same terrorist noose they created….and finally bring them down.
A Post-Lobby World would be the greatest gift the next President could give to every future generation of Americans.
A world Liberated from the Lobby’s terroristic fraud, ruthless malevolence, and bogus “above the law” Supremacism would be more than welcome to the vast majority of decent people on the planet, who have had to endure way too many of their heinous, cruel, and unending catastrophes .
Enough is enough .
So, how do you propose to carry out your plan, considering that some Joos are American citizens and are protected by the Constitution against illegal search and seizure and arrest without evidence?
Moreover, how would you address the millions of non-Jewish Americans who would be in harm's way should they choose to defend the liberties of citizens from your tyranny?
"It would alleviate the pressure on our “news personalities” to continue defrauding Americans by auctioning up the lobby owned media enterprises( in which they are employed ) to fresh bidders unconnected to the lobby’s international campaign of terrorism and perpetual war."
Would not the new POTUS then install his own "news personalities" to defraud Americans through his own lobby, compliments of his own tribe, in an effort to ensure that his agenda, one you sponsor, would be jackbooted onto citizens of America who may not agree with such agenda? How would you respond to this "betrayal" by John and Sarah Q. Public?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321778
And there is the fact that your tribe has also engaged in similar actions against real and perceived threats. Any group inside or outside America that fails to meet your standards must be expunged or expelled or liquidated.
"My feelings about Israel’s right to either defend itself or to expand its borders, peacefully or through war, have nothing whatsoever to do with my reaction to the restriction of my rights to free speech in my own country–especially when this infringement is undertaken by a foreign power."
That is an observably false statement. You are able to speak your mind on a wide range of topics in the open square. Israel or Saudi Arabia or Luxembourg are not interfering with your liberty in this regard. Indeed, there are consequences for one's opinions. Free speech has never been free.
Let me amend Philip Giraldi’s statement,
” That is why any negative story [or comment, in this case] appearing in the U.S. about Israel is immediately inundated with pro-Israel comments, many of which make exactly the same coordinated points while exhibiting the same somewhat less than perfect English [or Logic, in your case].”
Your responses are off target and incoherent.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321779
And there is the fact that your tribe has also engaged in similar actions against real and perceived threats. Any group inside or outside America that fails to meet your standards must be expunged or expelled or liquidated.
"My feelings about Israel’s right to either defend itself or to expand its borders, peacefully or through war, have nothing whatsoever to do with my reaction to the restriction of my rights to free speech in my own country–especially when this infringement is undertaken by a foreign power."
That is an observably false statement. You are able to speak your mind on a wide range of topics in the open square. Israel or Saudi Arabia or Luxembourg are not interfering with your liberty in this regard. Indeed, there are consequences for one's opinions. Free speech has never been free.
Say Corvinus, (Corporal Moshe’s Internet Marauders)
Woo – what a lie – if I send a letter to the editor of any paper in America, complaining about Israeli nukes – it will not be publish – you know that! The editor would lose his job if he published it.
See – you will get in people’s face and tell any lie for your tribe.
Does the concept of karma have relevance to the Jew?
Art
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321798
So they now want to use Canada for humanitarian intervention in Syria, and for FTAs concluded with the European Union? While remaining totally silent on Libya?
Canada’s all four major parties had long been “Israelized”. The worse government had been Conservatives under Stephen Harper. The NDP and Parti Quebecois is also controlled by Zionist Jews through intermarriages or by election funding and media support. Canada’s 70% mainstream media is owned by Zionists.
Same goes for current Liberal Party led by prime minister Justin Trudeau.
Personally, I liked several of Trudeau’s election promises – but always doubted his foreign policy agenda, especially in Middle East. Based on his family background and his support for the Zionist entity as opposition leader, I never believed his policy would be much different than Stephen Harper’s Zionist-butts-licking policy. Justin’s father Pierre Elliott Trudeau was the first Canadian prime minister to appoint a Jew in his cabinet. He also dated Hollywood Jewish singer and actress Barbara Streisand for years in the 1970s….
https://rehmat1.com/2016/01/05/canada-trudeau-vs-harper/
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321809
I am always amazed by the SJW’s, or the pro-white, or the Jooish conspiracy theorists how they are somehow the smartest people in the room, with deep insight into how and why their ideological enemies operate, that anyone who opposes them are “off target and incoherent”, and that the majority of people are blind and stupid.
Rather than impotently post on a blog about Joos ruling the world, why don’t you actually engage in a grass roots effort door to door, as in foot traffic, to convince those who are ignorant of this master plan by Joos. Publish your work. Conduct podcasts. Film yourself. Go to campaign rallies and spread the word.
My comments are inaccurately characterized as being “pro-Jew”. I am pro-humanity, anti-race. There is a difference.
Note that you chose not to distance yourself with my assertion that your tribe seeks to expunge or expel or liquidate anyone who fails to meet your standards.
Again, it is obscenely clear the intentions of your own tribe, which, according to your logic, is no different than the Joos.
Rather than engaging in vague and pointless whining, why don't you identify specific posts that you oppose and argue against them?
And if you thing employing the construct "Joo" is going to achieve something, you'd better think again.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321814
Woo - what a lie - if I send a letter to the editor of any paper in America, complaining about Israeli nukes - it will not be publish - you know that! The editor would lose his job if he published it.
See - you will get in people's face and tell any lie for your tribe.
Does the concept of karma have relevance to the Jew?
Art
“if I send a letter to the editor of any paper in America, complaining about Israeli nukes – it will not be publish – you know that.”
That’s not entirely accurate.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/5/letter-to-the-editor-for-israel-nuclear-weapons-a-/
http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/09/when_iran_nukes_israel_blame_o.html
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/09/if_israel_can_have_nukes_why_not_iran_hintons_view.html
“See – you will get in people’s face and tell any lie for your tribe.”
I’m white and not Jewish.
You win - I lose this one. Good post.
You say your are not a Jew - why do you defend them - the tribe is destroying America, Europe, and the ME?
Many Jews are decent people until tribe comes up - then they feel free to do wrong, like kill free speech. You are not going to deny that are you?
Art
But mostly accurate. The media spends endless time on the alleged and fundamentally unproved nuclear weapons program of Iran but basically accepts Israel's arsenal. Amusingly, Israel got its arsenal by the sort of connivance and theft that it and its lobby now accuse Iran of (without proof of course.)
The media is happy to present the Israel lobby's complaints about the Iranian ballistic missile program uncritically, but rarely if ever discusses Israel's Jericho missile.
Art's point may not be ENTIRELY accurate, but it is fundamentally accurate.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321818
Hey , since wn’s and alt right types dont exist in real life and never get their pasty rear ends off of internet comment sections , i know you guys are here to answer this question. Q. How is it that jews are able to control all western governments , all western media , all western academia, all western armies , but they cant seem to control this website, which is owned by a jew lol ??
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321820
Thanks for an excellent article.
We need a tough gutsy POTUS to win the next election.
One that will not merely stand up to the lobby.....but put the vast majority of its wealthiest and most powerful proponents where they belong......Federal prison or Guantanamo Bay.
The charges should be nearly self-evident by now.
"Conspiracy to Defraud the United States of America" and "Conspiracy to Commit a Terrorist act".
This should include several dozen CEO's and owners of all the major networks and newspapers who defrauded Americans out of trillions of dollars to initiate an illegal war of aggression in Iraq.
This "clean sweep" initiative would yield close to one trillion dollars to the american taxpayer, right out of the gate, ( with perhaps more down the line)... and act as potent exorcising tonic to all our representatives in Government trapped under the lobby's twin spells of extortion and bribery.
It would alleviate the pressure on our "news personalities" to continue defrauding Americans by auctioning up the lobby owned media enterprises( in which they are employed ) to fresh bidders unconnected to the lobby's international campaign of terrorism and perpetual war..
Not only would this bold action by the POTUS, stabilize the economy, but it would dramatically arrest the free fall , 19 trillion dollar (and counting) national debt the Lobby's pernicious overspending has generated.
It would profoundly revitalize our country's ability to debate the ways we can most rapidly HEAL our Nation after the decade and a half of brutal ,lobby induced, terroristic, top- down totalitarianism.
It would permit the G.A.O. to go to work again...with some real bite...and help restore a modicum of efficiency to our Military spending.
The next POTUS could be a true Robin Hood, who ends up hanging the lobby( quite deservedly) with the self same terrorist noose they created....and finally bring them down.
A Post-Lobby World would be the greatest gift the next President could give to every future generation of Americans.
A world Liberated from the Lobby's terroristic fraud, ruthless malevolence, and bogus "above the law" Supremacism would be more than welcome to the vast majority of decent people on the planet, who have had to endure way too many of their heinous, cruel, and unending catastrophes .
Enough is enough .
“One that will not merely stand up to the lobby…..but put the vast majority of its wealthiest and most powerful proponents where they belong……Federal prison or Guantanamo Bay.”
So, how do you propose to carry out your plan, considering that some Joos are American citizens and are protected by the Constitution against illegal search and seizure and arrest without evidence?
Moreover, how would you address the millions of non-Jewish Americans who would be in harm’s way should they choose to defend the liberties of citizens from your tyranny?
“It would alleviate the pressure on our “news personalities” to continue defrauding Americans by auctioning up the lobby owned media enterprises( in which they are employed ) to fresh bidders unconnected to the lobby’s international campaign of terrorism and perpetual war.”
Would not the new POTUS then install his own “news personalities” to defraud Americans through his own lobby, compliments of his own tribe, in an effort to ensure that his agenda, one you sponsor, would be jackbooted onto citizens of America who may not agree with such agenda? How would you respond to this “betrayal” by John and Sarah Q. Public?
Why is fraud an essential characteristic to you, Corvinus, and what you falsely believe is needed to rule over people ?
What about rejecting ALL fraud, which is what should be happening anyway, and do away with any who purport to endorse it ?
Whats wrong with that ?
Shouldn't defrauding the American people be a one way ticket for any who advocate it to federal prison or Guantanamo Bay?
if it shouldn't, Corvinus, why shouldn't it be ?
Who has taught you fraud is good Corvinus ?
Who has taught you fraud is okay ?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321824
But look at who they are fighting against. People like the author and the people commenting here. People who take out big mortgages then think lending is a conspiracy against them. It must be hard not to win everything sometimes.
These commenters don’t exist in real life . Have you ever in all your days heard people espouse these beliefs in real life ??
These type of echo chambers solve a real purpose . Without them we would find more alt right wn types taking the dylan roof route. This way they take out their frustration and inadequacies in comment sections harmlessly . People forget these comments minutes after reading them . The commenters become obsessed with jews and spend all their time online reading and posting conspiracy nonsense , thusly getting soft and even more unhealthy in the process. The jew wins again. LoL . Decks stacked against you white man !!! Damned if you do , damned if you dont !!!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321831
There are many SJW-type leftists and militant Muslims in the UK who think Israel is literally “the most evil country on the planet” ™. And it really, really isn’t. It’s not even the most evil country in the Middle East. The average Arab living in Israel proper (not the Occupied Territories) is probably better off than the average Arab in most of the Middle East. It’s far easier to be an out-of-the-closet gay Arab, or out-of-the-closet atheist Arab, in Israel than in Egypt.
France and Sweden are discovering that you can either have a strong Jewish community or a strong Muslim community, but you can’t have both. After Oona King lost Bethnal Green and Bow in 2005, the UK Labour party has avoided putting up Jewish candidates in constituencies with large numbers of Muslims.
Any country that has as its primary foreign policy goal the continued subversion of the US government is a enemy to be not only opposed but destroyed.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321857
So, how do you propose to carry out your plan, considering that some Joos are American citizens and are protected by the Constitution against illegal search and seizure and arrest without evidence?
Moreover, how would you address the millions of non-Jewish Americans who would be in harm's way should they choose to defend the liberties of citizens from your tyranny?
"It would alleviate the pressure on our “news personalities” to continue defrauding Americans by auctioning up the lobby owned media enterprises( in which they are employed ) to fresh bidders unconnected to the lobby’s international campaign of terrorism and perpetual war."
Would not the new POTUS then install his own "news personalities" to defraud Americans through his own lobby, compliments of his own tribe, in an effort to ensure that his agenda, one you sponsor, would be jackbooted onto citizens of America who may not agree with such agenda? How would you respond to this "betrayal" by John and Sarah Q. Public?
Why are you so addicted to fraud, Corvinus, that you assume, right out of the gate, that a “Robin Hood” POTUS would endorse fraud by anybody?
Why is fraud an essential characteristic to you, Corvinus, and what you falsely believe is needed to rule over people ?
What about rejecting ALL fraud, which is what should be happening anyway, and do away with any who purport to endorse it ?
Whats wrong with that ?
Shouldn’t defrauding the American people be a one way ticket for any who advocate it to federal prison or Guantanamo Bay?
if it shouldn’t, Corvinus, why shouldn’t it be ?
Who has taught you fraud is good Corvinus ?
Who has taught you fraud is okay ?
How do you define fraud? What are the means by which this make believe "Robin Hood" POTUS to put into motion your plan? How would this figure deal with groups of people who would label his actions as "fraudulent"?
"Who has taught you fraud is okay?"
YOU have, with your strawman, since I never directly or indirectly made that claim.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321872
Corvinus,
You win – I lose this one. Good post.
You say your are not a Jew – why do you defend them – the tribe is destroying America, Europe, and the ME?
Many Jews are decent people until tribe comes up – then they feel free to do wrong, like kill free speech. You are not going to deny that are you?
Art
I could easily make the claim that non-Jews, specifically Caucasians...or Muslims...or Christians...hell, any group...are destroying American, Europe, and YOU.
This fixation on Joos is truly fascinating to me. Now, what are YOU prepared to do about it? Are you that impotent not to hatch a plan, a course of action if you will, to thwart the dastardly deeds of Joos?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321883
Amazing that the US had such an innate advantage vis-a-vis the Muslims, given our lack of restive Muslim minorities in contrast to Russia, China and India, and yet we have simply tossed away this huge strategic advantage because of the unrelenting and insidious connivance of disloyal international Jewry.
One can't help but envy China. Imagine a nation-state possessing cultural anti-bodies that give it virtual immunity from the pestilence of Jewish/Zionist influence. Is there any way they could bottle it and sell it?
very simple really, the holocaust victim card doesn’t work in china. japan did the same or worst to them. at least the germans didn’t use the jews as guinea pigs for their experiments.
china or any asian country really, doesn’t give a shit about jews or the holocaust. Hell I bet most of them have some bloody history of their own.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321886
Sounds about par for the Jewish Supremacist course: “we’re racists, so if we murder a European pol we’ll say it’s because they’re racist.”
All of this is just the flowering of the Jewish Culture, which is being brought into line with Jewish nature, in Israel. It’s sort of like how black culture “collapsed” after Civil Rights; blacks felt free to stop trying to live up to white norms, and started expressing and living out their true natures. Similarly, Jews in Israel run the show there, so they don’t have to worry about shandas for de goyim.
That’s not global. It’s European. We’re doomed to form Jews’ preferred environments. Wealthy, technologically advanced, high trust, high tolerance. Perfect suckers.
And yet Chinese, Turkish, Indonesian, and Moroccan lobbies aren’t really an obstacle to Europeans and European-Americans having for themselves what Jews having for themselves in Israel. The greatest obstacle is diaspora Jewry, which, while strongly supporting Jews having for themselves what Jews have in Israel, vehemently denies the same the same to Europeans and European-Americans. Jewry pursues and supports right-wing gov’t in Israel, then works to destroy right-wing movements elsewhere.
Perhaps more importantly, if you condemn the Chinese, Turkish, Indonesian, or Moroccan occupations and lobbies (they have no Apartheid States to criticize, like Israel does), you aren’t swarmed by hasbarists telling you water’s wet and day is night.
Agreed. “Anti-Semitism” is a moral imperative. Embrace it.
And odious, don’t forget odious. Oh yes, and noxious as well.
Sort of. Yes, they always push, that’s what grifters do. Yes, eventually this will result in backlash #4891, it always does. But when it’s over, they’ll just fold the “unprovoked anti-Semitic attack” into their narrative of “mystical anti-Semitism,” which will feed back into their “keep whipping ourselves into a self-serving frenzy” model.
Evicting them from a society and folding “anti-Semitism” into the national culture is the only defense. And it must be bolstered with a strong educational plan, so people don’t forget.
No, let’s put a stop to it. After all, it’s a mere “pittance” and won’t be missed.
Yes, why do the Israelis ignore everything, and make such a big deal about Palestinians and ISIS? Jim Xtian knows the Israelis are ‘tards.
I’m also grateful to Jim Xtian for pointing out that China, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and Israel are in the same category.
Behold the Jewish genius for argumentation. E.g., the sun doesn’t provide warmth – it’s cold in Antarctica. Jesse Owens didn’t run fast – a horse runs faster. Please read his arguments to your nearest third-grader, I’m sure he’ll find them convincing.
Jews lack the biological profile to prey on east Asians; they don’t look anything like them.
Not according to the “right wing” gov’t of Israel, or the Jewish diaspora. According to them, Sweden should roll over and spread ‘em for the Muslim invasion.
Show me Bibi’s quotes supporting (or encouraging) the European right’s struggle against the Muslim invasion. Show me the Israeli right’s.
Show me where Bibi or prominent Israeli rightists condemn the Euro feminazis for anything that doesn’t involve Israeli self-interest.
Bibi doesn’t feel that way. He denounced Trump and distanced himself from his comments about immigration. You know, because he’s so “right wing.”
Great, here’s Israel’s gold medal in the moral special olympics.
Blacks in America are far better off than blacks in sub-Saharan Africa. Ask a diaspora Jew to take up that talking point. Hell, ask an Israeli to take up that talking point. Hell, ask an Israeli “settler” to take it up.
I’d rather have a strong Muslim community. Just as devious, with half the ability to do harm.
No they don’t. I can believe that you do, and project that onto others, though.
Oh so you are jealous of jews being able to accomplish what white nationalists are too incompetent to accomplish . At least you admit to your jealousy . Kudos to you . Start having kids instead of constantly posting dissertations on the internet . Whites 1.1 kids per couple LMFAO !!!!!!!
"Perhaps more importantly, if you condemn the Chinese, Turkish, Indonesian, or Moroccan occupations and lobbies (they have no Apartheid States to criticize, like Israel does), you aren’t swarmed by hasbarists telling you water’s wet and day is night."
Every Islamic state is a true apartheid state . Israel is not , muslims voting and serving in knessest . Free worship of muslims , mosques etc. Converting from Islam to christianity is a death penalty in Islamic nations , converting from christianity to islam has no punishment. Don't get more apartheid than that !!!!!!!! Homosexuality is punishable by death in islamic countries , but hetorosexuals have no punishment !!!!!! apartheid . Apostasy is punishable by death in islamic countries . ISlam _ = _ apartheid !!!!!!!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321888
There are many SJW-type leftists and militant Muslims in the UK who think Israel is literally “the most evil country on the planet” ™. And it really, really isn’t. It’s not even the most evil country in the Middle East. The average Arab living in Israel proper (not the Occupied Territories) is probably better off than the average Arab in most of the Middle East. It’s far easier to be an out-of-the-closet gay Arab, or out-of-the-closet atheist Arab, in Israel than in Egypt.
France and Sweden are discovering that you can either have a strong Jewish community or a strong Muslim community, but you can’t have both. After Oona King lost Bethnal Green and Bow in 2005, the UK Labour party has avoided putting up Jewish candidates in constituencies with large numbers of Muslims.
First, it’s not a question of not “always” having the same interests. Being seen to support the establishment of a Jewish state in the Middle East was NEVER in the interest of the US. How could it be? We have fish to fry globally, and the imposition of a Jewish state on unwilling Arabs was bound to generate widespread and long-lasting enmity to the US. Don’t try to minimize this strategic disaster by suggesting that it is only sometimes that our interests diverge. The existence of Israel and our role as its primary golem is an unmitigated strategic disaster for us.
The problem is that Israel and its fifth column/lobby in the US essentially demand that the US sacrifice its interests to those of Israel. There is no way around this basic problem.
Irrelevant.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321892
Rather than impotently post on a blog about Joos ruling the world, why don't you actually engage in a grass roots effort door to door, as in foot traffic, to convince those who are ignorant of this master plan by Joos. Publish your work. Conduct podcasts. Film yourself. Go to campaign rallies and spread the word.
My comments are inaccurately characterized as being "pro-Jew". I am pro-humanity, anti-race. There is a difference.
Note that you chose not to distance yourself with my assertion that your tribe seeks to expunge or expel or liquidate anyone who fails to meet your standards.
Again, it is obscenely clear the intentions of your own tribe, which, according to your logic, is no different than the Joos.
Your post is utterly incoherent.
Rather than engaging in vague and pointless whining, why don’t you identify specific posts that you oppose and argue against them?
And if you thing employing the construct “Joo” is going to achieve something, you’d better think again.
That's nonsense.
"Rather than engaging in vague and pointless whining, why don’t you identify specific posts that you oppose and argue against them?"
There isn't any "vague whining". It's simple--some people here have a Joo fixation. As in EVERY single political, economic, and social problem is attributed to that group without careful consideration of the machinations of their own group. The word is "projection".
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321898
But look at who they are fighting against. People like the author and the people commenting here. People who take out big mortgages then think lending is a conspiracy against them. It must be hard not to win everything sometimes.
Some of the most intelligent Jewish people have been critical of the zionist project in the Middle East. http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/jewish-critics-of-zionism-and-of-israels-treatment-of-the-palestinians/
“People always viscerally hate those smarter than themselves.” Inadvertently, you have reminded the readers about the zionists’ visceral hatred towards the civilization of Iran. The ancient state of Iran, that existed for thousands of years, had made an enormous contribution to the western civilization, whereas the ancient Jewish state had been of some significance for a speckle of 200 years and as for the greatness of the noble moral tradition of Judaism it is of no interest for zionists. (The ancient Israel also survived by a borrowed monotheism and by some rather unpleasant stories, like the one told on Purim). The absolute majority of all Jewish achievements in the modern sciences and fine arts have been accomplished in the context of other nations’ cultural development. This obvious facts does not diminish in the least the achievements, but it hopefully could help you to get a different perspective on your idea of smartness. You have perhaps also noticed that while the world Jewry is very fond of the fairy of tale of a motherland-Israel in the Middle East, the majority of smartest Jewish people have no desire to live there. The newcomers to Israel have been predominantly economic migrants. For instance, the smartest Soviet Jews tried their best to avoid going to Israel and/or used Israel as a transit to other countries.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321901
It has been very profitable for the zionists (and ziocons) to conflate Jews with Zionists. If you have not noticed yet, there is a difference between Einstein and Lansky, between Janus Korchak and Mossad provocateurs.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321912
Gee, we haven't spent trillions on wars for Israel. Our wars are concentrated on violent Islamist terror, however pointless they may be. Nonetheless, you Muslims are so confused about living in the First World you simply can't handle it.
Smelly bagels has really bested you this time around. He called you a hasbara agent twice! He showed you!!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321950
The biggest source of Greater Middle East insatiability is the ages old Sunni-Shiite conflict. Sometimes its on a very low simmer on the back burner but right now the pot is boiling away with hundred of thousands of Muslims killed by Muslims in the last few years. Also Christians killed by the thousands as collateral damage. Ages old Christian communities being driven out of Iraq and Syria by ISIS and similar type Sunni Jihadists.
The Jews of the Middle East would be suffering the same fate as the Christians except for one fact. They have their own nation and plenty of firepower.
It is precisely those modern, Arabic regimes that Israel targets for dismemberment (the primary threat to Israel is demographic, not military; the Oded Yinon plan) where Christians and other religious minorities (as well as women) enjoy the greatest protection in the ME.
I have to say I find amusing those who crow about Israel's achievements; they exist parasitically off of the US and would not exist as a racialist state without active US support (quite contrary to US interests).
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321965
These type of echo chambers solve a real purpose . Without them we would find more alt right wn types taking the dylan roof route. This way they take out their frustration and inadequacies in comment sections harmlessly . People forget these comments minutes after reading them . The commenters become obsessed with jews and spend all their time online reading and posting conspiracy nonsense , thusly getting soft and even more unhealthy in the process. The jew wins again. LoL . Decks stacked against you white man !!! Damned if you do , damned if you dont !!!
Humorous insight and true. Call it the soft white underbelly. And getting softer the more they post.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321974
Gee, we haven't spent trillions on wars for Israel. Our wars are concentrated on violent Islamist terror, however pointless they may be. Nonetheless, you Muslims are so confused about living in the First World you simply can't handle it.
“identifies you as a Palestinian goat herder that gets a chubby from his lambs. I guess facts don’t make it through to the streets your herd your Muslim-raped goats through.”
Hmmm. Well, either Hasbara or some kind of redneck that knows all the latest sand land jibes.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321980
What a joke. This is what happens in a nation where we cannot speak the truth. Yes, the truth about Jewish Power. If any people are to blame for Muslim terrorism, it is Jews. Jews ethnically cleansed Palestinians, which is why Palestinians turned to terror to resist Zionism(just like Algerians used terrorism against French Imperialism). Also, the Middle East was mostly stable before the Gulf War. Who led the US into that war? Neocon Jews in the first Bush administration.
Yes, there were always terrorists, but most of the Middle East was ruled by strongmen who got tough with terrorists in their own nations. Hussein didn't tolerate terrorists in Iraq. Iranian government didn't tolerate terrorists in Iran. Assad didn't tolerate terrorists in Syria. Military government in Algeria used all its might to suppress jihadis there. Gaddaffy didn't tolerate terrorists in Libya. Of course, these governments sometimes sponsored terrorism against OTHER nations, but Israel and US were no different in this. Israel created Hamas to fight the PLO. Israel aided Christian terrorists against Muslim terrorists in Lebanon. US aided Mujahadeen terrorists in Afghanistan the Soviet-backed government.
Even so, the Middle East and North Africa had been mostly stable for the simple reason that most nations had strongmen at the helm to clamp down on terrorism in their own nations. The most effective enemy of terrorism is the powerful state. State power can hunt down terrorists and prevent terror from spreading like a cancer.
But US's so-called "War on Terror" pursued policies that could only lead to the increase in terrorism. War on Terror toppled the strongman in Iraq. So, Iraq became a hotbed of free lance terrorists. US toppled Gaddafi in Libya, and North Africa became a free zone of terrorists. Without a strongman to keep things under lid, terrorist ran riot. This was a replay of what the US did with Afghanistan. If the Soviet-backed government in Kabul had been left alone, it would have consolidated power. But US subverted Afghanistan, thus leading to the eventual toppling of the Kabul government and the takeover of Afghanistan by all sorts of terrorist groups.
US then 'Afghanized' Iraq and Libya. And then, US worked with its allies(Israel, Saudis, Turkey) to 'Afghanize' Syria, and Syria is now a battleground with terrorists running riot all around.
Why did US policy take this turn? Because globalist-Zionists gained total power of US government, media, finance, and cuck politicians who do little else but sing hosannas to Israel and bend over to Jewish demands. The so-called War on Terror has become War FOR Terror.
After all, there is no better way to increase terrorism than by destabilizing governments in places like Iraq, Libya, and Syria. Without strong central authority, every clan or tribe can pick up AK-47s & bombs, get funding from cynical Saudi Wahabis, and raise hell all over the place.
I think this was intentional on the part of Jewish Power Elite. Jews claim to do one thing but do the very opposite. Jews want Israel to be the only great power in the region. And that mean weakening and destroying other nations in the region. And what better way to destroy them than by weakening their central governments and letting terrorists fill the vacuum.
But since Jews own the media, we are supposed to believe that the likes of Clinton, Bush II, and Obama have been doing their utmost to wage war on terror. What a joke.
Say, how about you pay more attention to the hordes of Chinese, Indians, Blacks, and Muslims streaming into countries like the US, Canada, and Australia instead of the minute amount of Jews there.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1321990
All of this is just the flowering of the Jewish Culture, which is being brought into line with Jewish nature, in Israel. It's sort of like how black culture "collapsed" after Civil Rights; blacks felt free to stop trying to live up to white norms, and started expressing and living out their true natures. Similarly, Jews in Israel run the show there, so they don't have to worry about shandas for de goyim.That's not global. It's European. We're doomed to form Jews' preferred environments. Wealthy, technologically advanced, high trust, high tolerance. Perfect suckers.And yet Chinese, Turkish, Indonesian, and Moroccan lobbies aren't really an obstacle to Europeans and European-Americans having for themselves what Jews having for themselves in Israel. The greatest obstacle is diaspora Jewry, which, while strongly supporting Jews having for themselves what Jews have in Israel, vehemently denies the same the same to Europeans and European-Americans. Jewry pursues and supports right-wing gov't in Israel, then works to destroy right-wing movements elsewhere.
Perhaps more importantly, if you condemn the Chinese, Turkish, Indonesian, or Moroccan occupations and lobbies (they have no Apartheid States to criticize, like Israel does), you aren't swarmed by hasbarists telling you water's wet and day is night.Agreed. "Anti-Semitism" is a moral imperative. Embrace it.And odious, don't forget odious. Oh yes, and noxious as well.Sort of. Yes, they always push, that's what grifters do. Yes, eventually this will result in backlash #4891, it always does. But when it's over, they'll just fold the "unprovoked anti-Semitic attack" into their narrative of "mystical anti-Semitism," which will feed back into their "keep whipping ourselves into a self-serving frenzy" model.
Evicting them from a society and folding "anti-Semitism" into the national culture is the only defense. And it must be bolstered with a strong educational plan, so people don't forget.No, let's put a stop to it. After all, it's a mere "pittance" and won't be missed.Yes, why do the Israelis ignore everything, and make such a big deal about Palestinians and ISIS? Jim Xtian knows the Israelis are 'tards.
I'm also grateful to Jim Xtian for pointing out that China, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and Israel are in the same category.Behold the Jewish genius for argumentation. E.g., the sun doesn't provide warmth - it's cold in Antarctica. Jesse Owens didn't run fast - a horse runs faster. Please read his arguments to your nearest third-grader, I'm sure he'll find them convincing.Jews lack the biological profile to prey on east Asians; they don't look anything like them.Not according to the "right wing" gov't of Israel, or the Jewish diaspora. According to them, Sweden should roll over and spread 'em for the Muslim invasion.
Show me Bibi's quotes supporting (or encouraging) the European right's struggle against the Muslim invasion. Show me the Israeli right's.
Show me where Bibi or prominent Israeli rightists condemn the Euro feminazis for anything that doesn't involve Israeli self-interest.Bibi doesn't feel that way. He denounced Trump and distanced himself from his comments about immigration. You know, because he's so "right wing."Great, here's Israel's gold medal in the moral special olympics.Blacks in America are far better off than blacks in sub-Saharan Africa. Ask a diaspora Jew to take up that talking point. Hell, ask an Israeli to take up that talking point. Hell, ask an Israeli "settler" to take it up.I'd rather have a strong Muslim community. Just as devious, with half the ability to do harm.No they don't. I can believe that you do, and project that onto others, though.
“And yet Chinese, Turkish, Indonesian, and Moroccan lobbies aren’t really an obstacle to Europeans and European-Americans having for themselves what Jews having for themselves in Israel. ”
Oh so you are jealous of jews being able to accomplish what white nationalists are too incompetent to accomplish . At least you admit to your jealousy . Kudos to you . Start having kids instead of constantly posting dissertations on the internet . Whites 1.1 kids per couple LMFAO !!!!!!!
“Perhaps more importantly, if you condemn the Chinese, Turkish, Indonesian, or Moroccan occupations and lobbies (they have no Apartheid States to criticize, like Israel does), you aren’t swarmed by hasbarists telling you water’s wet and day is night.”
Every Islamic state is a true apartheid state . Israel is not , muslims voting and serving in knessest . Free worship of muslims , mosques etc. Converting from Islam to christianity is a death penalty in Islamic nations , converting from christianity to islam has no punishment. Don’t get more apartheid than that !!!!!!!! Homosexuality is punishable by death in islamic countries , but hetorosexuals have no punishment !!!!!! apartheid . Apostasy is punishable by death in islamic countries . ISlam _ = _ apartheid !!!!!!!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322009
Jewish narcissism.
I’ve admitted I envy Jewry their ethnocentrism, more than once. I make no effort to deny it. Of course, Jews scream “anti-Semitism!!!” at this, because they’re the world’s biggest racists.
Try getting the Jews to say that. Israelis won’t lift a finger for right-wing movements anywhere but Israel. Because they’re Jewish Supremacists, not really right-wing.
Say, how about you get a prominent Israeli to say that. Diaspora Jewry + Israeli Jewry = 100% in support of race-replacing European and European-American countries out of existence.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322029
The right/wrong train left the station in the Middle East over a thousand years ago as far as I am concerned.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322032
You might be a WN white nationalist if :
1 . You think blacks are incapable of taking responsibility for their situation , but you blame all of your problems ,in fact all of the WORLDS problems , on JEWS !!
2. You want a White homeland but are jealous of jews for having a jewish homeland !!!
3. You think the holocaust never happened , but simultaneously with hitler ” finished the job ” .
4. You think jews control all the multibillion dollar media outlets , but think jews they can’t control 2 bit conspiracy websites !!!!!
5. You have pleasured yourself multiple times to the infamous barbara specter youtube video !!!
6. You normally hate muslims , refer to them as muds , refer to them as violent ,disdain their low IQ , disdain their K selection or whatever letter selection you call it where the group has more kids and pisses you off because whites are too lazy to have sex and procreate , however if they are fighting or killing jews , then you love them !!!!!!!
7. You want to kick out all non whites from ” white countries ” . Still mad whites got kicked out of rhodesia !!!!!!!
8. You think 1 palestinian killed constitutes genocide . brushes aside true genocide like 2 million killed by the Islamic republic of Sudan
9. You think Putin is the savior of the white race and potential destroyer of Israel . You ignore Putins jewish roots and the fact that almost all of his advisors are jews and since he entered the syrian conflict Israel has assassinated top hezbollah and Iranian assets like samir Kuntar with precision missile strikes that went right into his bedroom window !!!!! and strikes on buildings adjacent to the damascus airport !!!!!! Ya think they might be getting russian intel ??????????
You must be exhausted.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322046
If Israel did not exist, what would the Arab states be up to with regard to attacks on the West.
Joe Webb
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322075
The Jews of the Middle East would be suffering the same fate as the Christians except for one fact. They have their own nation and plenty of firepower.
ISIS is a CIA-Mossad mercenary army; it is no accident that all of those fake beheading videos come from a Mossad-connected site (Rita Katz). Like most of these Islamic terrorist groups that supposedly threaten the West and Israel, they primarily target Shiites and never strike Jewish targets.
It is precisely those modern, Arabic regimes that Israel targets for dismemberment (the primary threat to Israel is demographic, not military; the Oded Yinon plan) where Christians and other religious minorities (as well as women) enjoy the greatest protection in the ME.
I have to say I find amusing those who crow about Israel’s achievements; they exist parasitically off of the US and would not exist as a racialist state without active US support (quite contrary to US interests).
Iraq: has always sucked. Artificial country created by colonialism
Egypt: sucked with Mubarak, who Israel supported, still sucks with Army that Israel supports
Libya: sucked with Quadaffi, sucks without him
The most modern Arab countries, Morocco and Tunisia, Israel has never done anything to harm.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322092
Congratulations on missing the point.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322095
The worst is creating censorship of the internet. Pure scum, because this is what the founding father of the net, had already warned about years ago.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322102
One wonders why Jews in the face of all the evil that Israel does – still support it?
It is their culture from birth to do so. The truth is that a Jew is a Jew is a Jew – they can NEVER be one of us – when called upon, they will lie, intimidate, and even maim for their leaders. They have no scruples when it comes to tribal matters. The will conspire to advance Jew power – nothing is sacred, but tribe.
With the creation of Israel, most every Jew is a fifth column in the country where they reside.
The Jew are more then a lobby – they are a tribal army.
They are an ethnic mafia, no offense to Sicilians or Italians intended. Nothing more, certainly nothing less. The oldest, most vicious, deranged and utterly diabolical ethnic mafia EVAH.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322106
Amazing that the US had such an innate advantage vis-a-vis the Muslims, given our lack of restive Muslim minorities in contrast to Russia, China and India, and yet we have simply tossed away this huge strategic advantage because of the unrelenting and insidious connivance of disloyal international Jewry.
One can't help but envy China. Imagine a nation-state possessing cultural anti-bodies that give it virtual immunity from the pestilence of Jewish/Zionist influence. Is there any way they could bottle it and sell it?
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http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Pro-Israel-caucus-forming-in-Russian-parliament-314341
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http://nonalignedmedia.com/2016/02/russian-israeli-lawmakers-sign-inter-parliamentary-cooperation-agreement/
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322112
Rather than engaging in vague and pointless whining, why don't you identify specific posts that you oppose and argue against them?
And if you thing employing the construct "Joo" is going to achieve something, you'd better think again.
“Your post is utterly incoherent.”
That’s nonsense.
“Rather than engaging in vague and pointless whining, why don’t you identify specific posts that you oppose and argue against them?”
There isn’t any “vague whining”. It’s simple–some people here have a Joo fixation. As in EVERY single political, economic, and social problem is attributed to that group without careful consideration of the machinations of their own group. The word is “projection”.
In your original post you repeatedly used the word "your." Were you referring to Giraldi?
If so, what is it that he said specifically that you are complaining about?
Do you disagree with the main points of Giraldi's article?
As I said, your piece is vague and incoherent whining. You don't like what's being said but can't seem to marshal an argument against what you hear, so you resort to "Jooism" (i.e., the concoction of the epithet "Joo" in order to avoid having to advance a coherent and logical argument.)
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322133
Likud has managed to misrepresent its own extremist party policies as somehow identical to those of all persons either ethnically or religiously Jewish worldwide. In addition, it has conflated its own rump party domination of a narrow political coalition as identical to Israeli identity. This would be like an American political party’s elites claiming they are the only real Americans, as against the interests of everyone else.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322138
Why is fraud an essential characteristic to you, Corvinus, and what you falsely believe is needed to rule over people ?
What about rejecting ALL fraud, which is what should be happening anyway, and do away with any who purport to endorse it ?
Whats wrong with that ?
Shouldn't defrauding the American people be a one way ticket for any who advocate it to federal prison or Guantanamo Bay?
if it shouldn't, Corvinus, why shouldn't it be ?
Who has taught you fraud is good Corvinus ?
Who has taught you fraud is okay ?
“Shouldn’t defrauding the American people be a one way ticket for any who advocate it to federal prison or Guantanamo Bay?”
How do you define fraud? What are the means by which this make believe “Robin Hood” POTUS to put into motion your plan? How would this figure deal with groups of people who would label his actions as “fraudulent”?
“Who has taught you fraud is okay?”
YOU have, with your strawman, since I never directly or indirectly made that claim.
Every member of the Office of Special Plans who generated this fraudulent story should be plopped there too,
ASAP.All their assets should be clawed back by the President to help pay down the national debt, ASAP.I don't care about what you refer to as" Joos" .....I care about the fraud .I am so sick of people , like you Corvinus, who try to equivocate and relativize the massive... systemic.... heaving..... Lobby induced fraud that has been foisted on the american people on a daily basis over the last decade and a half....and that its cost us(in believing it) 13 trillion dollars of debt and the lives of countless innocent people.It is so disgusting that there has been zero accountability for any of it .I am amazed you are so truculent or ignorant to defend it.Truly amazed.Straw man ? please...what a joke.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322141
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http://nonalignedmedia.com/2016/02/russian-israeli-lawmakers-sign-inter-parliamentary-cooperation-agreement/
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322155
It is precisely those modern, Arabic regimes that Israel targets for dismemberment (the primary threat to Israel is demographic, not military; the Oded Yinon plan) where Christians and other religious minorities (as well as women) enjoy the greatest protection in the ME.
I have to say I find amusing those who crow about Israel's achievements; they exist parasitically off of the US and would not exist as a racialist state without active US support (quite contrary to US interests).
Other than Syria, which ones do you mean?
Iraq: has always sucked. Artificial country created by colonialism
Egypt: sucked with Mubarak, who Israel supported, still sucks with Army that Israel supports
Libya: sucked with Quadaffi, sucks without him
The most modern Arab countries, Morocco and Tunisia, Israel has never done anything to harm.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322183
I guess they taught you to respect Jews while they sang the Horst Wessel as a lullaby to you.
Respect them for what? That’s the point.
And don’t try the ‘Horst Wessel’ & the debunked 6,000,000 crap.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322214
1 . You think blacks are incapable of taking responsibility for their situation , but you blame all of your problems ,in fact all of the WORLDS problems , on JEWS !!
2. You want a White homeland but are jealous of jews for having a jewish homeland !!!
3. You think the holocaust never happened , but simultaneously with hitler " finished the job " .
4. You think jews control all the multibillion dollar media outlets , but think jews they can't control 2 bit conspiracy websites !!!!!
5. You have pleasured yourself multiple times to the infamous barbara specter youtube video !!!
6. You normally hate muslims , refer to them as muds , refer to them as violent ,disdain their low IQ , disdain their K selection or whatever letter selection you call it where the group has more kids and pisses you off because whites are too lazy to have sex and procreate , however if they are fighting or killing jews , then you love them !!!!!!!
7. You want to kick out all non whites from " white countries " . Still mad whites got kicked out of rhodesia !!!!!!!
8. You think 1 palestinian killed constitutes genocide . brushes aside true genocide like 2 million killed by the Islamic republic of Sudan
9. You think Putin is the savior of the white race and potential destroyer of Israel . You ignore Putins jewish roots and the fact that almost all of his advisors are jews and since he entered the syrian conflict Israel has assassinated top hezbollah and Iranian assets like samir Kuntar with precision missile strikes that went right into his bedroom window !!!!! and strikes on buildings adjacent to the damascus airport !!!!!! Ya think they might be getting russian intel ??????????
Wow! Your strawman moment.
You must be exhausted.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322216
A lot of people don't like Catholics, but they don't spend 3/4 of their lives whining that "everybody hates us."
They don't start wars in other people's countries.
They don't try to destroy other people's economies.
They don't insinuate themselves into other people's governments and institutions and demand special favors.
True, Catholics defend their interests where they conflict with those of a particular government or institution.
But they don't do so by killing people (not recently, anyway) or blackmailing them or threatening their careers.
They try to get along.
Even with Israelis.
Just a few days ago the Pope met with the leader of Iran. It has not been reported if either man had a lightening rod installed in his head.
Maybe Jews could take a lesson from the way the Vatican and institutional Roman Catholicism has reformed and revised and rethought its ways of relating with its neighbors and the rest of the people in the world, to the extent that the Vatican now has friendly diplomatic relations -- and respect -- in all of these states and international institutions:
Algiers (Apostolic Nunciature)
Angola
Luanda (Apostolic Nunciature)
Benin
Cotonou (Apostolic Nunciature)
Burundi
Bujumbura (Apostolic Nunciature)
Cameroon
Yaoundé (Apostolic Nunciature)
Central African Republic
Bangui (Apostolic Nunciature)
Chad
N'Djamena (Apostolic Nunciature)
Republic of the Congo
Brazzaville (Apostolic Nunciature)
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Kinshasa (Apostolic Nunciature)
Cote d'Ivoire
Abidjan (Apostolic Nunciature)
Egypt
Cairo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Ethiopia
Addis Ababa (Apostolic Nunciature)
Gabon
Libreville (Apostolic Nunciature)
Ghana
Accra (Apostolic Nunciature)
Guinea
Conakry (Apostolic Nunciature)
Kenya
Nairobi (Apostolic Nunciature)
Madagascar
Antananarivo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Morocco
Rabat (Apostolic Nunciature)
Mozambique
Maputo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Nigeria
Abuja (Apostolic Nunciature)
Rwanda
Kigali (Apostolic Nunciature)
Senegal
Dakar (Apostolic Nunciature)
South Africa
Pretoria (Apostolic Nunciature)
South Sudan
Juba (Apostolic Nunciature)[4]
Sudan
Khartoum (Apostolic Nunciature)
Tanzania
Dar es Salaam (Apostolic Nunciature)
Uganda
Kampala (Apostolic Nunciature)
Zambia
Lusaka (Apostolic Nunciature)
Zimbabwe
Harare (Apostolic Nunciature)
Americas[edit]
Antigua and Barbuda
St. John's (Apostolic Nunciature)
Argentina
Buenos Aires (Apostolic Nunciature)
Bolivia
La Paz (Apostolic Nunciature)
Brazil
Brasília (Apostolic Nunciature)
Canada
Ottawa (Apostolic Nunciature)
Chile
Santiago (Apostolic Nunciature)
Colombia
Bogotá (Apostolic Nunciature)
Costa Rica
San José (Apostolic Nunciature)
Cuba
Havana (Apostolic Nunciature)
Dominican Republic
Santo Domingo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Ecuador
Quito (Apostolic Nunciature)
El Salvador
San Salvador (Apostolic Nunciature)
Guatemala
Guatemala City (Apostolic Nunciature)
Haiti
Port-au-Prince (Apostolic Nunciature)
Honduras
Tegucigalpa (Apostolic Nunciature)
Mexico
Mexico City (Apostolic Nunciature)
Nicaragua
Managua (Apostolic Nunciature)
Panama
Panama City (Apostolic Nunciature)
Paraguay
Asunción (Apostolic Nunciature)
Peru
Lima (Apostolic Nunciature)
Trinidad and Tobago
Port of Spain (Apostolic Nunciature)
United States
Washington, D.C. (Apostolic Nunciature)
Uruguay
Montevideo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Venezuela
Caracas (Apostolic Nunciature)
Asia[edit]
Bangladesh
Dhaka (Apostolic Nunciature)
Republic of China
Taipei (Apostolic Nunciature)
Georgia
Tbilisi (Apostolic Nunciature)
India
New Delhi (Apostolic Nunciature)
Indonesia
Jakarta (Apostolic Nunciature)
Iran
Tehran (Apostolic Nunciature)
Iraq
Baghdad (Apostolic Nunciature)
Israel
Tel Aviv (Apostolic Nunciature)
Jerusalem (Apostolic Delegation)
Japan
Tokyo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Jordan
Amman (Apostolic Nunciature)
Kazakhstan
Astana (Apostolic Nunciature)
Kyrgyzstan
Bishkek (Apostolic Nunciature)
Republic of Korea
Seoul (Apostolic Nunciature)
Kuwait
Kuwait City (Apostolic Nunciature)
Lebanon
Harissa (Apostolic Nunciature)
Malaysia
Kuala Lumpur (Apostolic Nunciature)
Pakistan
Islamabad (Apostolic Nunciature)
Philippines
Manila (Apostolic Nunciature)
Singapore
Singapore (Apostolic Nunciature)
Sri Lanka
Colombo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Syria
Damascus (Apostolic Nunciature)
Thailand
Bangkok (Apostolic Nunciature)
Turkey
Ankara (Apostolic Nunciature)
Turkmenistan
Ashgabat (Apostolic Nunciature)
Uzbekistan
Tashkent (Apostolic Nunciature)
Europe[edit]
Albania
Tirana (Apostolic Nunciature)
Austria
Vienna (Apostolic Nunciature)
Belarus
Minsk (Apostolic Nunciature)
Belgium
Brussels (Apostolic Nunciature)
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Sarajevo (Apostolic Nunciature)
Bulgaria
Sofia (Apostolic Nunciature)
Croatia
Zagreb (Apostolic Nunciature)
Cyprus
Nicosia (Apostolic Nunciature)
Czech Republic
Prague (Apostolic Nunciature)
France
Paris (Apostolic Nunciature)
Strasbourg (Office)
Germany
Berlin (Apostolic Nunciature)
Greece
Athens (Apostolic Nunciature)
Hungary
Budapest (Apostolic Nunciature)
Ireland
Dublin (Apostolic Nunciature)
Italy
Rome (Apostolic Nunciature)
Lithuania
Vilnius (Apostolic Nunciature)
Malta
Rabat (Apostolic Nunciature)
Netherlands
The Hague (Apostolic Nunciature)
Poland
Warsaw (Apostolic Nunciature)
Portugal
Lisbon (Apostolic Nunciature)
Romania
Bucharest (Apostolic Nunciature)
Russia
Moscow (Apostolic Nunciature)
San Marino
San Marino (Apostolic Nunciature)
Serbia
Belgrade (Apostolic Nunciature)
Slovakia
Bratislava (Apostolic Nunciature)
Slovenia
Ljubljana (Apostolic Nunciature)
Spain
Madrid (Apostolic Nunciature)
Sweden
Stockholm (Apostolic Nunciature)
Switzerland
Bern (Apostolic Nunciature)
Ukraine
Kiev (Apostolic Nunciature)
United Kingdom
London (Apostolic Nunciature)
Oceania[edit]
Australia
Canberra (Apostolic Nunciature)
New Zealand
Wellington (Apostolic Nunciature)
Papua New Guinea
Port Moresby (Apostolic Nunciature)
Multilateral organisations[edit]
Permanent Observer of the Holy See to the United Nations (at the headquarters of the U.N.) (New York)
Permanent Observer of Holy See to the United Nations (at the European office of the U.N.) (Geneva)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/09/hampton-courts-chapel-royal-stages-first-catholic-service-for-450-years
Beautiful sanctuary.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322232
I just want to say to everyone who talks about ethnicity, and this is a point that may not be approved but is nevertheless true, the Jewish marriage system is capable of bringing in genes from outside via women and exporting genes outside via men – in England we are not allowed to talk about English ethnicity, even though it has been demonstrated to exist (POBI – Wellcome Trust). Many English people have a jewish ancestor, don’t identify as jewish but usually/always support immigration. I have Jewish-identifying relatives who are 75% genetically English. In other words, those English genes (including high IQ, calm and collected demeanor and north European features, are now lost to English ethnicity/gene pool).
This is why it is so disappointing that HBD, which has done so much to explore cousin marriage and the church’s ban on cousin marriage, is silent about jewish marriage even though genetic surveys show that jewish genetics mostly sit between the host country and palestine.(Bihar et al, 2010 – see via Dienekes blog)
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322251
[…] “Israel’s International Conspiracy” Sayanim. Saving the world will involve, of necessity, forcefully dealing with this. […]
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322262
How do you define fraud? What are the means by which this make believe "Robin Hood" POTUS to put into motion your plan? How would this figure deal with groups of people who would label his actions as "fraudulent"?
"Who has taught you fraud is okay?"
YOU have, with your strawman, since I never directly or indirectly made that claim.
Are you actually asking me to define fraud for you …Corvinus ?
Are you actually asking me to site “examples” of fraud, Corvinus ?..at this late date ?
Do I really need to go through the litany of fraud that the lobby has used against the American people over the last fifteen years ?
Do I need to do that ?
Lets take one example…..how about the absolute uncontested certainty that it was Saddams anthrax which was sent to Senator Leahy’s and Tom Brokaws offices.
Every owner of every major newspaper and media conglomerate who ran this story uncontested should be plopped in federal prison ASAP.
Every member of the Office of Special Plans who generated this fraudulent story should be plopped there too,
ASAP.
All their assets should be clawed back by the President to help pay down the national debt, ASAP.
I don’t care about what you refer to as” Joos” …..I care about the fraud .
I am so sick of people , like you Corvinus, who try to equivocate and relativize the massive… systemic…. heaving….. Lobby induced fraud that has been foisted on the american people on a daily basis over the last decade and a half….and that its cost us(in believing it) 13 trillion dollars of debt and the lives of countless innocent people.
It is so disgusting that there has been zero accountability for any of it .
I am amazed you are so truculent or ignorant to defend it.
Truly amazed.
Straw man ? please…what a joke.
Every member of the Office of Special Plans who generated this fraudulent story should be plopped there too, ASAP."
Now we are getting somewhere. In what specific ways was this story "fraudulent"? What facts are you able to present that these individuals should be hauled to jail for running this story? How are YOU able to make this sole determination that they are guilty compared to legal experts? What are your qualifications?
You do realize that these outlets have constitutional protections, that those who ran the story cannot be merely put in jail, right? Do you even comprehend due process and the rule of law?
"I am amazed you are so truculent or ignorant to defend it."
The train is fine.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322288
Mr Giraldi, the reason that you are called an anti-semite is because it is pretty obvious that that is what you are. As we shall see:
There are 2 billion Christians and 2 billion Muslims and Giraldi just can not understand why Hebdo does not pay equal attention to 12 million Jews. Why can they not, Giraldi ‘reasons’, devote a hundred percent of their thought and opinion to Jews? Giraldi does. Giraldi is not obsessed. He knows that 12 million is more important than 2 billion.
and I know what is coming…but Jews always talk about Jews are they not equally unbalanced?
No. Jews talking about Jews are normal. Jains also talk a lot about Jains.
Now it is true that we must recognise that Israel is no saint and we must also recognise that Jews often have ethnic pressure groups which pursue their ethnic self-interest. We must not forget however that these are normal things and dwarfed by the innumerable groups representing other foreign interests. (perhaps Giraldi is in one of these group’s pay?)
So we can see that Hebdo’s coverage is proportionate. Giraldi’s is not. What gall then for him to criticise them by posing as the underdog who has found the moral high ground. It is Hebdo which truly speaks truth to power.
Giraldi’s writings will never provoke masked men to storm his home and gun him down…
I presume that Giraldi would happily give our countries away if only it would spite the Jews.
Yes, agree 100% - Jew conspiring with our Jews against their Gentile neighbors is normal,
You are trying to put lipstick on a pig!
You protest to loudly - the truth is self-evident.
Israel is the face of the Jew - and it is nothing short of evil.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322324
[…] Source: Israel’s International Conspiracy – The Unz Review […]
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322334
This is why it is so disappointing that HBD, which has done so much to explore cousin marriage and the church's ban on cousin marriage, is silent about jewish marriage even though genetic surveys show that jewish genetics mostly sit between the host country and palestine.(Bihar et al, 2010 - see via Dienekes blog)
Helena seems authentic but is confused.
Officially it should be the other way around. Jewish identity is supposed to be passed through the mother’s side. Nonetheless you make a good point. Nowadays Jews out-marry a lot.
True, but I don’t see your point. This is not because of Jews, it is because we are idiots.
I will make a point for you though. When a mostly English Jew grows into an identity the fact that we can’t speak about being English will discourage them from identifying as such. This is sad and shows a Saileresque ‘flight from white.’
I also remember, as a child, many of my friends reflexively emphasising their mostly tenuous Welsh or Scots roots, probably for the same reasons.
I understand what you are saying but I don’t think it is fair. Follow the next post.
Or rather, with all this outmarriage the English Jewish gene pool is being submerged into the actual English gene pool. At a ratio of 1 to something like 200, I think that this is basically irrelevant for the English although obviously quite relevant for English Jews.
Furthermore, from an HBD perspective, this sprinkling of Ashkenazi genes is not without benefits. It is far too small to dilute the general identity and may add something small. I mean, were Jews to complete marrying in and the rest of the population to remain static then Ashkenazi genes would be 0.5 percent of the English gene pool. Is this really an issue?
Increasing numbers of people are not concerned with their "gene pool" is being "diluted". Rather, they focus on marrying and procreating with someone they are compatible with. That's called being a human being. Knock yourself out if you want to have your children remain "pure bred".
"Helena ... is confused."
Supposing a woman with a Jewish mother and Inuit father marries a man with a Navajo mother and a Sicilian father and decides to bring up her children as Jewish? What's their ethnicity? It seems to depend on which ethnicity makes the greatest demand for membership? I don't think they'd qualify for Navajo status if casino shares were involved. I could imagine the Sicilian relatives being quite accepting.
"True, but I don’t see your point. "
The point was to depict a gene pool like a Venn diagram, to state the parameters of the biological point. It didn't have to be English, it could have been Welsh and then it wouldn't have needed qualifying since the Welsh, for now, still have their ethnicity in the public consciousness. MSM does not use English as an ethnic label so I felt I had to justify using it.
"This is sad and shows a Saileresque ‘flight from white.’"
I'm trying to say the opposite. If people who are genetically 75% English want to practice Judaism, by all means. But 75% English is not 'Jewish' in the sense that 'Jewish' is currently 'defined'.
"but I don’t think it is fair"
It's not about fairness but about what happens during sexual reproduction.
"Or rather, with all this outmarriage the English Jewish gene pool is being submerged into the actual English gene pool. "
Jewish genes that end up outside the Jewish gene pool seem to create a cultural predilection for immigration. Not that I'm suggesting a direct deterministic link rather the awareness of having jewish ancestry.
"Is this really an issue?"
The only issue I'm raising is to be accurate about gene flow.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322337
Israel did 9-11.
American troops should be rolling into Tel Aviv & Herzliya, not Iraq and Afghanistan.
But Israel wants its enemies to be America’s enemies.
Israel wants Christian Americans to be killing its Muslim Neighbors.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322344
Here is an open letter written by an Israeli to his fellow Israelis. It was written by Jonathan Ofir, an Israeli musician, conductor and blogger/writer based in Denmark.
Another great point to stick to the aggressively vigilant ADL and Jewish Defense League: "As Golda Meir told MK Shulamit Aloni: “After the Holocaust, Jews are allowed to do anything.” And boy, they did allow themselves to do anything.
And here is the root of all evil: "... our inherent state-religion – which is not Judaism, as many mistakenly think – but rather Zionism." The noble tradition of Judaism has been sacrificed for the obnoxious and murderous ethnocentrism (of the "chosen" variety).
Thanks for sharing that, geo.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322359
All you jew obsessed freaks here are fucking morons, how many nonwhites like chinese and indians have flooded into vancouver lately and all you fucking imbeciles talk about are jews.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322362
That's nonsense.
"Rather than engaging in vague and pointless whining, why don’t you identify specific posts that you oppose and argue against them?"
There isn't any "vague whining". It's simple--some people here have a Joo fixation. As in EVERY single political, economic, and social problem is attributed to that group without careful consideration of the machinations of their own group. The word is "projection".
You provide no empirical evidence to support your claims and imagine that by employing “Joo,” you have somehow fired a winning rhetorical shot. How ludicrous.
In your original post you repeatedly used the word “your.” Were you referring to Giraldi?
If so, what is it that he said specifically that you are complaining about?
Do you disagree with the main points of Giraldi’s article?
As I said, your piece is vague and incoherent whining. You don’t like what’s being said but can’t seem to marshal an argument against what you hear, so you resort to “Jooism” (i.e., the concoction of the epithet “Joo” in order to avoid having to advance a coherent and logical argument.)
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322367
“That’s not entirely accurate.”
But mostly accurate. The media spends endless time on the alleged and fundamentally unproved nuclear weapons program of Iran but basically accepts Israel’s arsenal. Amusingly, Israel got its arsenal by the sort of connivance and theft that it and its lobby now accuse Iran of (without proof of course.)
The media is happy to present the Israel lobby’s complaints about the Iranian ballistic missile program uncritically, but rarely if ever discusses Israel’s Jericho missile.
Art’s point may not be ENTIRELY accurate, but it is fundamentally accurate.
What does "fundamentally unproven" even mean?
"The media is happy to present the Israel lobby’s complaints about the Iranian ballistic missile program uncritically, but rarely if ever discusses Israel’s Jericho missile."
That's not "fundamentally accurate".
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/28/10534518-fears-grow-of-israel-iran-missile-shootout
http://www.businessinsider.com/israels-nuclear-arsenal-may-be-different-than-everyone-thinks-2014-11
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/0524/Did-Israel-offer-to-sell-South-Africa-nuclear-weapons
"Amusingly, Israel got its arsenal by the sort of connivance and theft that it and its lobby now accuse Iran of (without proof of course.)"
What evidence do you have that supports your assertion of this "connivance and theft"?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322369
Israel wants a piece of Syria; a piece of Iraq; a piece of Saudi Arabia; a piece of Lebanon; a piece of Jordan; a piece of Turkey; a piece of Egypt and whatever pieces are left after they genocide Palestine out of existence.
Israel’s interest in the Golan Heights is obvious and it has a common border with Lebanon which could literally be moved to enlarge Israel. Otherwise your list of countries Israel wants a piece of doesn’t make sense and invites speculation about what you were smoking or whether perhaps your map is 2500 years old…
Historically the Golan Heights belongs to Lebanon but that criminal Herzl knew the importance of water sources to let Europe's unwanted Jews to "bloom the Desert" where 750,000 Palestinians were already living for centuries.
Lebanon appeared on Zionist Jewish hit list in 1919, when the World Zionist Congress delegation at the Paris Peace Conference said the Lebanese Litani River, Golan Heights and Jordan Valley (West Bank), were “essential for the necessary economic foundation of the new state for Jews. It must have the control of Arab rivers and headwaters.”
As result of its 1967 aggression, Israel gained control of waters of the West Bank and the Sea of Galilee – but not the Litani River. The West Bank’s mountain aquifer and Sea of Galilee provides 60% of Israel’s freshwater needs – over one billion cubic meters per year.
After WWI, Syria (al-Sham) became French colony and Palestine, Trans-Jordan, and Iraq British colonies. French divided al-Sham on religion basis; Lebanon for Christians and Syria for Muslims. In 1940, British colonists traded the Golan Heights to the French in exchange for territory in present day Jordan (here). Both occupied Golan Heights and Shebaa Farms are great source of water supplies to the illegal Jewish settlers.
https://rehmat1.com/2015/10/10/israels-biggest-prize-would-be-lebanon/
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322370
Replace "Zio-supremacists" with "Zio-supremacists and Anti-Jew conspiracists" and you are spot on.
"Jewish supremacism is real."
Are you impotent as a non-Jew to actually counteract their alleged world-wide reach?
I prefer humanity rather than a particular identity. Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.
“I prefer humanity rather than a particular identity. Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.”
Are YOU impotent to bring about your “pro-humanity” vision? And what do you do when different segments of humanity clash with one another?
Do you favor the Eastern European Jewish conquest of Palestine and the gradual ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people? How does your “pro-humanity” vision work in practice? What does it even mean?
No, because I am virile in how I treat people on a case by case basis.
"And what do you do when different segments of humanity clash with one another?"
Try to bridge the gap between their differences. Alas, human beings are generally set in their ways and are prone to confirmation bias and projection.
"Do you favor the Eastern European Jewish conquest of Palestine and the gradual ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people?"
Would you say the same thing if the Palestinian peoples were in charge and were removing Joos by force?
The United Nations, under the auspices of Great Britain and the United States, was willing to partition Palestine through Jooish and Arab representation. The Arabs, understandably, boycotted these meetings. As a result, the state of Israel was born. In return, Joo leaders have in many instances bullied their way to create a situation where hostility runs deep between them and Arabs. Anti-humanity? Absolutely. How to solve this issue? Great question, considering this conflict is centuries old and embedded in religious and cultural traditions that neither side is willing to compromise.
Do you favor pro-whites deeming those whites who choose to associate with non-whites as being race traitors?
"How does your “pro-humanity” vision work in practice? What does it even mean?"
The Golden Rule--treat each person with respect, and seek not to characterize the actions of one individual from a particular group based on every known stereotype. Alas, white, red, black, yellow, and Joo race baiters run rampant in today's society.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322372
“Israel did 9-11″ – too evil to expose!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322378
and I know what is coming...but Jews always talk about Jews are they not equally unbalanced?
No. Jews talking about Jews are normal. Jains also talk a lot about Jains.
Now it is true that we must recognise that Israel is no saint and we must also recognise that Jews often have ethnic pressure groups which pursue their ethnic self-interest. We must not forget however that these are normal things and dwarfed by the innumerable groups representing other foreign interests. (perhaps Giraldi is in one of these group's pay?)
So we can see that Hebdo's coverage is proportionate. Giraldi's is not. What gall then for him to criticise them by posing as the underdog who has found the moral high ground. It is Hebdo which truly speaks truth to power.
Giraldi's writings will never provoke masked men to storm his home and gun him down...
I presume that Giraldi would happily give our countries away if only it would spite the Jews.
Hebdo does not talk about Chinese either. It talks about Muslims because they are the enemy of Israel and they are made to be the enemy of the West which suppose to fight them for Israel. And Hebdo’s job is to vilify them so the fighting them will be easier.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322386
Every member of the Office of Special Plans who generated this fraudulent story should be plopped there too,
ASAP.All their assets should be clawed back by the President to help pay down the national debt, ASAP.I don't care about what you refer to as" Joos" .....I care about the fraud .I am so sick of people , like you Corvinus, who try to equivocate and relativize the massive... systemic.... heaving..... Lobby induced fraud that has been foisted on the american people on a daily basis over the last decade and a half....and that its cost us(in believing it) 13 trillion dollars of debt and the lives of countless innocent people.It is so disgusting that there has been zero accountability for any of it .I am amazed you are so truculent or ignorant to defend it.Truly amazed.Straw man ? please...what a joke.
“how about the absolute uncontested certainty that it was Saddams anthrax which was sent to Senator Leahy’s and Tom Brokaws offices…Every owner of every major newspaper and media conglomerate who ran this story uncontested should be plopped in federal prison ASAP.
Every member of the Office of Special Plans who generated this fraudulent story should be plopped there too, ASAP.”
Now we are getting somewhere. In what specific ways was this story “fraudulent”? What facts are you able to present that these individuals should be hauled to jail for running this story? How are YOU able to make this sole determination that they are guilty compared to legal experts? What are your qualifications?
You do realize that these outlets have constitutional protections, that those who ran the story cannot be merely put in jail, right? Do you even comprehend due process and the rule of law?
“I am amazed you are so truculent or ignorant to defend it.”
The train is fine.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322401
“Or rather, with all this outmarriage the English Jewish gene pool is being submerged into the actual English gene pool.”
Increasing numbers of people are not concerned with their “gene pool” is being “diluted”. Rather, they focus on marrying and procreating with someone they are compatible with. That’s called being a human being. Knock yourself out if you want to have your children remain “pure bred”.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322403
You win - I lose this one. Good post.
You say your are not a Jew - why do you defend them - the tribe is destroying America, Europe, and the ME?
Many Jews are decent people until tribe comes up - then they feel free to do wrong, like kill free speech. You are not going to deny that are you?
Art
“You say your are not a Jew – why do you defend them – the tribe is destroying America, Europe, and the ME?”
I could easily make the claim that non-Jews, specifically Caucasians…or Muslims…or Christians…hell, any group…are destroying American, Europe, and YOU.
This fixation on Joos is truly fascinating to me. Now, what are YOU prepared to do about it? Are you that impotent not to hatch a plan, a course of action if you will, to thwart the dastardly deeds of Joos?
All three of those links you provided where pro-Israel links - NOT anti Israel nukes - you provided no evidence of the public denunciation of Israeli nukes ---- please be honest.
Looking at your comment history, one can see that you make one pro-Israel pro-Jew post after another - yet you claim, to NOT be a Jew - Hmm?????
Jesus said "the truth will set you free" - that works for all humans - even Jews. Do you Jews want to be free of your sick obsession with your selves and your tribe?
My plan is to post the truth about Jew tribalness, Jew nukes, and the evil that is Israel.
Yours Art
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322406
Are YOU impotent to bring about your "pro-humanity" vision? And what do you do when different segments of humanity clash with one another?
Do you favor the Eastern European Jewish conquest of Palestine and the gradual ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people? How does your "pro-humanity" vision work in practice? What does it even mean?
“Are YOU impotent to bring about your “pro-humanity” vision?”
No, because I am virile in how I treat people on a case by case basis.
“And what do you do when different segments of humanity clash with one another?”
Try to bridge the gap between their differences. Alas, human beings are generally set in their ways and are prone to confirmation bias and projection.
“Do you favor the Eastern European Jewish conquest of Palestine and the gradual ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people?”
Would you say the same thing if the Palestinian peoples were in charge and were removing Joos by force?
The United Nations, under the auspices of Great Britain and the United States, was willing to partition Palestine through Jooish and Arab representation. The Arabs, understandably, boycotted these meetings. As a result, the state of Israel was born. In return, Joo leaders have in many instances bullied their way to create a situation where hostility runs deep between them and Arabs. Anti-humanity? Absolutely. How to solve this issue? Great question, considering this conflict is centuries old and embedded in religious and cultural traditions that neither side is willing to compromise.
Do you favor pro-whites deeming those whites who choose to associate with non-whites as being race traitors?
“How does your “pro-humanity” vision work in practice? What does it even mean?”
The Golden Rule–treat each person with respect, and seek not to characterize the actions of one individual from a particular group based on every known stereotype. Alas, white, red, black, yellow, and Joo race baiters run rampant in today’s society.
OK, I got it. You're going to hang out on Mount Olympus pontificating about the Golden Rule, and you have no real intellectual framework for dealing with the inevitable conflicts among human groups other than pallid homiletics.
Do you think that the US relationship with Israel benefits the US strategically? Or do you not do strategy? It's much easier to sermonize about "Joos" and the cruel baiting to which they are being mercilessly subjected, isn't it?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322416
Thanx for replying.
“Helena … is confused.”
Supposing a woman with a Jewish mother and Inuit father marries a man with a Navajo mother and a Sicilian father and decides to bring up her children as Jewish? What’s their ethnicity? It seems to depend on which ethnicity makes the greatest demand for membership? I don’t think they’d qualify for Navajo status if casino shares were involved. I could imagine the Sicilian relatives being quite accepting.
“True, but I don’t see your point. ”
The point was to depict a gene pool like a Venn diagram, to state the parameters of the biological point. It didn’t have to be English, it could have been Welsh and then it wouldn’t have needed qualifying since the Welsh, for now, still have their ethnicity in the public consciousness. MSM does not use English as an ethnic label so I felt I had to justify using it.
“This is sad and shows a Saileresque ‘flight from white.’”
I’m trying to say the opposite. If people who are genetically 75% English want to practice Judaism, by all means. But 75% English is not ‘Jewish’ in the sense that ‘Jewish’ is currently ‘defined’.
“but I don’t think it is fair”
It’s not about fairness but about what happens during sexual reproduction.
“Or rather, with all this outmarriage the English Jewish gene pool is being submerged into the actual English gene pool. ”
Jewish genes that end up outside the Jewish gene pool seem to create a cultural predilection for immigration. Not that I’m suggesting a direct deterministic link rather the awareness of having jewish ancestry.
“Is this really an issue?”
The only issue I’m raising is to be accurate about gene flow.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322419
But mostly accurate. The media spends endless time on the alleged and fundamentally unproved nuclear weapons program of Iran but basically accepts Israel's arsenal. Amusingly, Israel got its arsenal by the sort of connivance and theft that it and its lobby now accuse Iran of (without proof of course.)
The media is happy to present the Israel lobby's complaints about the Iranian ballistic missile program uncritically, but rarely if ever discusses Israel's Jericho missile.
Art's point may not be ENTIRELY accurate, but it is fundamentally accurate.
“The media spends endless time on the alleged and fundamentally unproved nuclear weapons program of Iran but basically accepts Israel’s arsenal.”
What does “fundamentally unproven” even mean?
“The media is happy to present the Israel lobby’s complaints about the Iranian ballistic missile program uncritically, but rarely if ever discusses Israel’s Jericho missile.”
That’s not “fundamentally accurate”.
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/28/10534518-fears-grow-of-israel-iran-missile-shootout
http://www.businessinsider.com/israels-nuclear-arsenal-may-be-different-than-everyone-thinks-2014-11
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/0524/Did-Israel-offer-to-sell-South-Africa-nuclear-weapons
“Amusingly, Israel got its arsenal by the sort of connivance and theft that it and its lobby now accuse Iran of (without proof of course.)”
What evidence do you have that supports your assertion of this “connivance and theft”?
Your selection of quotes refutes your own argument. Israel has had operational Jericho's since the late 1980s. Yet what is required to generate the NBC article you cite from 2012 ? Iran, of course! See the double standard? The Business Insider article from 2014 is focused on minimizing the size of Israel's nuclear program and arsenal. And the CSM article which you had to go all the way back to 2010 to find comes to no real conclusion on its subject.
Now, compare that to the hundreds of articles, most of them accepting unproven or outright fallacious premises that have flooded the western media over the last decade on the subject of Iran's alleged nuclear weapons program. The Israeli nuclear and missile programs have basically gotten a free ride in the western media. If you can't see that, then you are not the "pro-humanity" neutral that you claim to be.Do you really not know or are you just being deliberately obtuse?
Why did Israel kidnap Mordecai Vanunu off the streets of Rome after he began to reveal aspects of the Israeli nuclear program?
Here are a few basics from the Guardian, but the information is so widespread you can get it many places":
"The Israelis admitted to having a reactor but insisted it was for entirely peaceful purposes. The spent fuel was sent to France for reprocessing, they claimed, even providing film footage of it being supposedly being loaded onto French freighters. Throughout the 60s it flatly denied the existence of the underground reprocessing plant in Dimona that was churning out plutonium for bombs.
Israel refused to countenance visits by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), so in the early 1960s President Kennedy demanded they accept American inspectors. US physicists were dispatched to Dimona but were given the run-around from the start. Visits were never twice-yearly as had been agreed with Kennedy and were subject to repeated postponements. The US physicists sent to Dimona were not allowed to bring their own equipment or collect samples. The lead American inspector, Floyd Culler, an expert on plutonium extraction, noted in his reports that there were newly plastered and painted walls in one of the buildings. It turned out that before each American visit, the Israelis had built false walls around the row of lifts that descended six levels to the subterranean reprocessing plant."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/15/truth-israels-secret-nuclear-arsenal
Do you need more or can you find it yourself?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322421
Increasing numbers of people are not concerned with their "gene pool" is being "diluted". Rather, they focus on marrying and procreating with someone they are compatible with. That's called being a human being. Knock yourself out if you want to have your children remain "pure bred".
Wowzers! You missed my point. Go back and read what I wrote. ‘To a hammer everything is a nail…’
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322430
In your original post you repeatedly used the word "your." Were you referring to Giraldi?
If so, what is it that he said specifically that you are complaining about?
Do you disagree with the main points of Giraldi's article?
As I said, your piece is vague and incoherent whining. You don't like what's being said but can't seem to marshal an argument against what you hear, so you resort to "Jooism" (i.e., the concoction of the epithet "Joo" in order to avoid having to advance a coherent and logical argument.)
Yes, Joos have a lobby. Yes, Joos are tribal. Yes, Joos seek to look out for their interests. Just like any other group, like your lobby, your tribe, your interests. What, you don’t think your machinations are any different when it comes to destruction and mayhem and chaos?
I also invoke Niwdog’s Law–As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.
Criticize and lambaste Joos all you want. Knock yourself out.
It would be one thing if you had a specific argument to make against something that someone in this string has asserted. But you really don't. It's all just a generalized complaint about how unfair everyone is being. Quite nonsensical really. And then to resort to the ultimate straw man--"assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world." No one in this string has said that. Again, you should focus less on what you imagine that unspecified people are asserting and more on the specific arguments being made with which you disagree.
That way, you might be able to relieve yourself of the psychological dependence you seem to have on "Joos."
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322431
Every member of the Office of Special Plans who generated this fraudulent story should be plopped there too, ASAP."
Now we are getting somewhere. In what specific ways was this story "fraudulent"? What facts are you able to present that these individuals should be hauled to jail for running this story? How are YOU able to make this sole determination that they are guilty compared to legal experts? What are your qualifications?
You do realize that these outlets have constitutional protections, that those who ran the story cannot be merely put in jail, right? Do you even comprehend due process and the rule of law?
"I am amazed you are so truculent or ignorant to defend it."
The train is fine.
Further to the two cases cited by alexander, another case in point is the NYT’s Judith Miller and her “stories” about Saddam’s possession of WMD? Had she published these stories in Canada, she’d be in jail:
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322433
Iraq: has always sucked. Artificial country created by colonialism
Egypt: sucked with Mubarak, who Israel supported, still sucks with Army that Israel supports
Libya: sucked with Quadaffi, sucks without him
The most modern Arab countries, Morocco and Tunisia, Israel has never done anything to harm.
If you really are Hasbara, the Israelis should ask for their money back because you are doing a really poor job.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322442
http://www.gallup.com/poll/181652/seven-americans-continue-view-israel-favorably.aspx?g_source=COUNTRY_ISR&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles
Islamists sit in the Knesset, but any advocacy of Zionism leads to prison or worse in Iran.
Just admit to being an out-and-out Anti-Semite, there are plenty of friends at The Right Stuff who have gotten over the psychological shock.
Zionist liars create antisemitism.Ding ding ding.Can I have my medal?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322463
Thanks for an excellent article.
We need a tough gutsy POTUS to win the next election.
One that will not merely stand up to the lobby.....but put the vast majority of its wealthiest and most powerful proponents where they belong......Federal prison or Guantanamo Bay.
The charges should be nearly self-evident by now.
"Conspiracy to Defraud the United States of America" and "Conspiracy to Commit a Terrorist act".
This should include several dozen CEO's and owners of all the major networks and newspapers who defrauded Americans out of trillions of dollars to initiate an illegal war of aggression in Iraq.
This "clean sweep" initiative would yield close to one trillion dollars to the american taxpayer, right out of the gate, ( with perhaps more down the line)... and act as potent exorcising tonic to all our representatives in Government trapped under the lobby's twin spells of extortion and bribery.
It would alleviate the pressure on our "news personalities" to continue defrauding Americans by auctioning up the lobby owned media enterprises( in which they are employed ) to fresh bidders unconnected to the lobby's international campaign of terrorism and perpetual war..
Not only would this bold action by the POTUS, stabilize the economy, but it would dramatically arrest the free fall , 19 trillion dollar (and counting) national debt the Lobby's pernicious overspending has generated.
It would profoundly revitalize our country's ability to debate the ways we can most rapidly HEAL our Nation after the decade and a half of brutal ,lobby induced, terroristic, top- down totalitarianism.
It would permit the G.A.O. to go to work again...with some real bite...and help restore a modicum of efficiency to our Military spending.
The next POTUS could be a true Robin Hood, who ends up hanging the lobby( quite deservedly) with the self same terrorist noose they created....and finally bring them down.
A Post-Lobby World would be the greatest gift the next President could give to every future generation of Americans.
A world Liberated from the Lobby's terroristic fraud, ruthless malevolence, and bogus "above the law" Supremacism would be more than welcome to the vast majority of decent people on the planet, who have had to endure way too many of their heinous, cruel, and unending catastrophes .
Enough is enough .
Unfortunately, no such candidate exist and probably won’t for awhile. Not Trump, and certainly not Sanders, who himself is a Kosher Jew. Being one of the few things I find objectionable about him.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322465
And let us also ignore the trillions the rest of the Middle East costs us. Ignore China's hacking and tampering and theft of software and technologies and military challenges (fleas, but still) and ignore the South Koreans and what they cost and ignore all the rest that dwarfs Israel. That's what you have to do to buy into the premise presented by this article. Jesus, what an anti Semitic hit piece, no offense intended.
Only to wacko lunatic heretics is 5 billion chump change.
Using the Lords name and religious precepts in vain is highly dubious,and a sign of a ziomonster,as they hate Him.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322475
Zündel was found guilty, but exonerated in 1992 when the Supreme Court of Canada held that the law he was prosecuted under was a violation of the guarantee of freedom of expression under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
“Further to the two cases cited by alexander…”
[Sigh] In what specific ways were the stories “fraudulent”? What facts are you able to present that these individuals should be hauled to jail for running this story? How are YOU able to make this sole determination that they are guilty compared to legal experts? What are your qualifications?
You do realize that American reporters have constitutional protections, that those who ran the story cannot be merely put in jail for their story, right? Do you even comprehend due process and the rule of law?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322482
Ok, Perry Mason. While there may not be laws on the books today to punish these people from deliberately propagating lies in major news publications that result in the deaths of untold innocent people and the loss of billions from the national treasury, what alexander and I are suggesting is that there should be – i.e., these people should be held accountable, even if they can’t be under present laws.
For the love of God, in what specific ways were the stories “fraudulent”? What facts are you able to present that these individuals should be hauled to jail for running this story? How are YOU able to make this sole determination that they are guilty compared to legal experts? What are your qualifications?
Better yet, how does one go about even writing a law that makes lying by a reporter or news agency, or even a common citizen, a criminal offense?
Are you willing to live in a society where the distinct possibility exists that YOU could be thrown in jail for "deliberately propagating lies"?
Stating your accusation over and over again does equate to "evidence". Please answer the questions.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322520
Those don’t even compare to the barbarity that Israel commits.
True story.
papuans killed by indonesia 1963 to present . 500,000
tibetans killed by china 1940s to present .200,000
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322544
What does "fundamentally unproven" even mean?
"The media is happy to present the Israel lobby’s complaints about the Iranian ballistic missile program uncritically, but rarely if ever discusses Israel’s Jericho missile."
That's not "fundamentally accurate".
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/28/10534518-fears-grow-of-israel-iran-missile-shootout
http://www.businessinsider.com/israels-nuclear-arsenal-may-be-different-than-everyone-thinks-2014-11
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/0524/Did-Israel-offer-to-sell-South-Africa-nuclear-weapons
"Amusingly, Israel got its arsenal by the sort of connivance and theft that it and its lobby now accuse Iran of (without proof of course.)"
What evidence do you have that supports your assertion of this "connivance and theft"?
It means that no evidence to support the claim has been adduced. Do you want to provide some?
Your selection of quotes refutes your own argument. Israel has had operational Jericho’s since the late 1980s. Yet what is required to generate the NBC article you cite from 2012 ? Iran, of course! See the double standard? The Business Insider article from 2014 is focused on minimizing the size of Israel’s nuclear program and arsenal. And the CSM article which you had to go all the way back to 2010 to find comes to no real conclusion on its subject.
Now, compare that to the hundreds of articles, most of them accepting unproven or outright fallacious premises that have flooded the western media over the last decade on the subject of Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program. The Israeli nuclear and missile programs have basically gotten a free ride in the western media. If you can’t see that, then you are not the “pro-humanity” neutral that you claim to be.
Do you really not know or are you just being deliberately obtuse?
Why did Israel kidnap Mordecai Vanunu off the streets of Rome after he began to reveal aspects of the Israeli nuclear program?
Here are a few basics from the Guardian, but the information is so widespread you can get it many places”:
“The Israelis admitted to having a reactor but insisted it was for entirely peaceful purposes. The spent fuel was sent to France for reprocessing, they claimed, even providing film footage of it being supposedly being loaded onto French freighters. Throughout the 60s it flatly denied the existence of the underground reprocessing plant in Dimona that was churning out plutonium for bombs.
Israel refused to countenance visits by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), so in the early 1960s President Kennedy demanded they accept American inspectors. US physicists were dispatched to Dimona but were given the run-around from the start. Visits were never twice-yearly as had been agreed with Kennedy and were subject to repeated postponements. The US physicists sent to Dimona were not allowed to bring their own equipment or collect samples. The lead American inspector, Floyd Culler, an expert on plutonium extraction, noted in his reports that there were newly plastered and painted walls in one of the buildings. It turned out that before each American visit, the Israelis had built false walls around the row of lifts that descended six levels to the subterranean reprocessing plant.”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/15/truth-israels-secret-nuclear-arsenal
Do you need more or can you find it yourself?
This is also an oft repeated tactic by him where he attempts to appear to be smart whilst demonstrating actually being the opposite.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322579
No, because I am virile in how I treat people on a case by case basis.
"And what do you do when different segments of humanity clash with one another?"
Try to bridge the gap between their differences. Alas, human beings are generally set in their ways and are prone to confirmation bias and projection.
"Do you favor the Eastern European Jewish conquest of Palestine and the gradual ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people?"
Would you say the same thing if the Palestinian peoples were in charge and were removing Joos by force?
The United Nations, under the auspices of Great Britain and the United States, was willing to partition Palestine through Jooish and Arab representation. The Arabs, understandably, boycotted these meetings. As a result, the state of Israel was born. In return, Joo leaders have in many instances bullied their way to create a situation where hostility runs deep between them and Arabs. Anti-humanity? Absolutely. How to solve this issue? Great question, considering this conflict is centuries old and embedded in religious and cultural traditions that neither side is willing to compromise.
Do you favor pro-whites deeming those whites who choose to associate with non-whites as being race traitors?
"How does your “pro-humanity” vision work in practice? What does it even mean?"
The Golden Rule--treat each person with respect, and seek not to characterize the actions of one individual from a particular group based on every known stereotype. Alas, white, red, black, yellow, and Joo race baiters run rampant in today's society.
You never actually answered this question of mine.
So if that boycott was “understandable,” then is their subsequent and current resistance “understandable” as well?
No. Is that question meant to be relevant?
OK, I got it. You’re going to hang out on Mount Olympus pontificating about the Golden Rule, and you have no real intellectual framework for dealing with the inevitable conflicts among human groups other than pallid homiletics.
Do you think that the US relationship with Israel benefits the US strategically? Or do you not do strategy? It’s much easier to sermonize about “Joos” and the cruel baiting to which they are being mercilessly subjected, isn’t it?
Israel was part and parcel to the American plans to thwart communism at every turn during the Cold War. It is not surprising that Israel received nuclear technical support and a free pass to use that technology against their sworn enemy, Islam. Whether or not America should or should not continue that relationship is predicated upon one's tribe. I prefer to be human and not necessarily align myself to Joo or anti-Joo intentions. I will leave that up to the race baiters.
“The Israeli nuclear and missile programs have basically gotten a free ride in the western media.”
Everyone knows about Israel’s intentions. There is no secret there. It’s about teams. Israel, despite their petulance, is on the American side. Iran is on the other side, the “evil” side. Within this international drama, there are anti-humanity undertones throughout.
“Why did Israel kidnap Mordecai Vanunu off the streets of Rome after he began to reveal aspects of the Israeli nuclear program?”
That’s a complicated matter, an entire thread can be devoted to the circumstances surrounding this event.
“Is that question meant to be relevant?”
Yes, as there a number of posters on this fine blog that focus on “whites” who are in favor of Joos as being “anti-white”.
“Do you favor the Eastern European Jewish conquest of Palestine and the gradual ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people?”
I responded to the question in the way I can only answer it—Yes, Joos have a lobby. Yes, Joos are tribal. Yes, Joos seek to look out for their interests. Just like any other group, like your lobby, your tribe, your interests. What, you don’t think your machinations are any different when it comes to destruction and mayhem and chaos?
“Conquest”? “Ethnic cleansing”? I’m not sure about that.
“So if that boycott was “understandable,” then is their subsequent and current resistance “understandable” as well?”
Of course.
“you have no real intellectual framework for dealing with the inevitable conflicts among human groups other than pallid homiletics.”
I have a framework—treat others the way you want to be treated. When talking about complicated matters that have layers of nuance and centuries of hatred behind it, that framework unfortunately becomes untenable. What is lost are the messages of humanity in the Torah and in the Koran.
“Do you think that the US relationship with Israel benefits the US strategically?”
In the end, nations have interests, not allies. The American relationship with Israel is strategic. Whether one person believes it is beneficial or detrimental squarely depends on how a person feels about one’s tribe.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322590
So then, in the context of what you have just said, what does “Joo baiting,” a phrase you have employed several times, really mean? You concede that Jewry is pursuing collective goals, which necessarily must come at the expense of other, competing groups. So why would a critique of that pursuit by those who do not benefit from it be nothing more than “baiting?” Your basic approach to the issue makes little sense.
It would be one thing if you had a specific argument to make against something that someone in this string has asserted. But you really don’t. It’s all just a generalized complaint about how unfair everyone is being. Quite nonsensical really. And then to resort to the ultimate straw man–”assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world.” No one in this string has said that. Again, you should focus less on what you imagine that unspecified people are asserting and more on the specific arguments being made with which you disagree.
That way, you might be able to relieve yourself of the psychological dependence you seem to have on “Joos.”
That’s not “fundamentally accurate”.
“Those don’t even compare to the barbarity that Israel commits.”
“The noble tradition of Judaism has been sacrificed for the obnoxious and murderous ethnocentrism (of the “chosen” variety).”
“what does “Joo baiting,” a phrase you have employed several times, really mean?”
Should Israel be criticized for their policies? Absolutely. Is it anti-semitism to engage in such criticism? No. Do some people mischaracterize at least and outright lie at worst about Joos? Yes. One need only look at the above references. Perhaps people ought to look inwardly at their own tribal issues rather than attribute their own issues squarely upon other tribes.
“That way, you might be able to relieve yourself of the psychological dependence you seem to have on “Joos.”
I am not the one talking about “Zionist conspiracies” and how the federal government is in the “pocket of Israel”.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322600
With an eye-for-an-eye moral law, there can be no accountability, equivalency or judgement until six or twelve millions of gentiles first perish in recompense. There is a long way to go yet.
How many Jews are preferring to live outside Israel currently? And how many of these "outsiders" have their hearts and minds shaped by the culture they grew up in - instead of being nurtured by the visceral hatred for the gentiles?
Take a story of the Bolshevik Revolution and first Soviet Government that can be justifiably called the Government of Terrorists. Look at the ethnic composition of this Government. Next look at the presence of Jews among the bosses and middle-range officers in the Soviet secret police. If you decide to take and effort to look at the data, you would find that the disproportionate number of bosses in the first Soviet government and secret police were Jews. This discovery (of a rather well-known fact) would help you to comprehend why a documentary book, "Two Hundred Years Together," written by the Nobel Prize winner A. Solzhenitsyn, was refused to be published in English translation by all American and UK publishing houses. The documentary, "Two Hundred Years Together," presents the facts on the role of Jews in the bloody Russian revolution; these facts are intolerable for the Holocaust biz. Considering the number of Russian victims and the epic ruin suffered by Russian civilization as a result of the Bolshevik Revolution, how many Jews should be held for "accountability, equivalency or judgement" in relation to the genocidal crimes that had been committed not only against ethnic Russians but against Ukrainians, Belorussians, Asians, Caucasians, and other people that had been living in the Russian empire?
Meanwhile, the growing antipathy towards Israel has its causes in he following: "...the State of Israel is the state of those who hold Jewish Nationality – which supersedes their citizenship." In short, it is OK for Israel (and the dreaming zionists) to feast parasitically on the resources of western civilization.
Yours was a grandiose pronouncement on "accountability, equivalency or judgement until..." and so forth, which, as you can see, cannot withstand the force of facts.
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http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322618
Remarkable how the hasbara of every stripe have flocked here so quickly! Did Phil really hit such a nerve? Or do they fear he’s part of a turning tide? There’s just a whiff of desperation in the air.
Karma is coming due FAST and they know it and it terrifies them, as rightly it should. They can't even imagine the Hell that awaits them.
Soon "The Chosen Ones" will be nothing but a very, very bad memory and there will be peace in the (goyim) world.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322622
How Monica Lewinsky and her dress destroyed the Middle East Peace Accords
(How different would the world be if Clinton had been assassinated & JFK merely blackmailed)
One thing which no one ever says out loud, and perhaps the main reason why the Tribe has such pull in the US.
Ever hear of The Texas School book Depository? How about Deeley Plaza,
Grassy Knoll …anyone ?
Just a casual look at history and the issues President Kennedy was dealing with at the time , vis a vis Israel. It’s at least plausible.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322627
“punish these people from deliberately propagating lies…”
For the love of God, in what specific ways were the stories “fraudulent”? What facts are you able to present that these individuals should be hauled to jail for running this story? How are YOU able to make this sole determination that they are guilty compared to legal experts? What are your qualifications?
Better yet, how does one go about even writing a law that makes lying by a reporter or news agency, or even a common citizen, a criminal offense?
Are you willing to live in a society where the distinct possibility exists that YOU could be thrown in jail for “deliberately propagating lies”?
Stating your accusation over and over again does equate to “evidence”. Please answer the questions.
Corvanus...you are welcome to "fraudulate" and "obfuscate" to your hearts content. But the truth is ...Guantanamo Bay is way to good for these fraudulent scum. Perhaps you should be remaindered there, too....to think about it for a couple dozen years.Then you might learn a proper lesson in the distinction between "defrauding " and "reporting".How else will you, and those you are so anxious to defend,learn,never,to do it again ?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322638
That’s two coffees for you, Fran.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322657
Finally, the truth has been uttered with an utmost clarity: “…the State of Israel is the state of those who hold Jewish Nationality – which supersedes their citizenship.”
Another great point to stick to the aggressively vigilant ADL and Jewish Defense League: “As Golda Meir told MK Shulamit Aloni: “After the Holocaust, Jews are allowed to do anything.” And boy, they did allow themselves to do anything.
And here is the root of all evil: “… our inherent state-religion – which is not Judaism, as many mistakenly think – but rather Zionism.” The noble tradition of Judaism has been sacrificed for the obnoxious and murderous ethnocentrism (of the “chosen” variety).
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322666
OK, I got it. You're going to hang out on Mount Olympus pontificating about the Golden Rule, and you have no real intellectual framework for dealing with the inevitable conflicts among human groups other than pallid homiletics.
Do you think that the US relationship with Israel benefits the US strategically? Or do you not do strategy? It's much easier to sermonize about "Joos" and the cruel baiting to which they are being mercilessly subjected, isn't it?
“Here are a few basics from the Guardian, but the information is so widespread you can get it many places.”
Israel was part and parcel to the American plans to thwart communism at every turn during the Cold War. It is not surprising that Israel received nuclear technical support and a free pass to use that technology against their sworn enemy, Islam. Whether or not America should or should not continue that relationship is predicated upon one’s tribe. I prefer to be human and not necessarily align myself to Joo or anti-Joo intentions. I will leave that up to the race baiters.
“The Israeli nuclear and missile programs have basically gotten a free ride in the western media.”
Everyone knows about Israel’s intentions. There is no secret there. It’s about teams. Israel, despite their petulance, is on the American side. Iran is on the other side, the “evil” side. Within this international drama, there are anti-humanity undertones throughout.
“Why did Israel kidnap Mordecai Vanunu off the streets of Rome after he began to reveal aspects of the Israeli nuclear program?”
That’s a complicated matter, an entire thread can be devoted to the circumstances surrounding this event.
“Is that question meant to be relevant?”
Yes, as there a number of posters on this fine blog that focus on “whites” who are in favor of Joos as being “anti-white”.
“Do you favor the Eastern European Jewish conquest of Palestine and the gradual ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people?”
I responded to the question in the way I can only answer it—Yes, Joos have a lobby. Yes, Joos are tribal. Yes, Joos seek to look out for their interests. Just like any other group, like your lobby, your tribe, your interests. What, you don’t think your machinations are any different when it comes to destruction and mayhem and chaos?
“Conquest”? “Ethnic cleansing”? I’m not sure about that.
“So if that boycott was “understandable,” then is their subsequent and current resistance “understandable” as well?”
Of course.
“you have no real intellectual framework for dealing with the inevitable conflicts among human groups other than pallid homiletics.”
I have a framework—treat others the way you want to be treated. When talking about complicated matters that have layers of nuance and centuries of hatred behind it, that framework unfortunately becomes untenable. What is lost are the messages of humanity in the Torah and in the Koran.
“Do you think that the US relationship with Israel benefits the US strategically?”
In the end, nations have interests, not allies. The American relationship with Israel is strategic. Whether one person believes it is beneficial or detrimental squarely depends on how a person feels about one’s tribe.
In 1918-1919 Woodrow Wilson deployed US soldiers beefed up by Japanese forces in a bid to "destroy Bolshevism." It failed; backfired, in fact.
In 1932-1933 Stalin and the Bolsheviks killed 7- or 8-million Ukrainians, Russian peasants, kulaks (according to Martin Amis and Susan Liebman Butler).
One of the first things Franklin Delano Roosevelt did in 1933 was to secretly dispatch Henry Morgenthau Jr. to negotiate with Litvinenko to grant diplomatic recognition to Stalin's Russia and to arrange for the recompense for American property lost in the 1917 revolutions. Bolshevism was no longer a scourge; it wasn't a problem any more.
That was just the beginning of Franklin Roosevelt's courting of Stalin (according to Susan Butler). The president and his Sec'y of the Treasury, Morgenthau, went out of their way to generate and gather up US taxpayer money and send it to Stalin.
This is all well before 1942, when the first evidence of the alleged holocaust was published by Rabbi Stephen Wise.
FDR & Morgenthau began gearing up to support Stalin and destroy Germany even before 1938 and the Munich Agreement.
And speaking of 1938 -- it was in that year that Herbert Hoover met with Hitler and concluded that Hitler's three idees fixes were to unify Germany from its fragmentation post Versailles; to expand German access to resources; and "to destroy the Russian Communist government." (Freedom Betrayed, p. 60 )
Just a few hours ago someone posted this comment on a rigorously moderated blog:So what we have is
the USA (W. Wilson);
Adolf Hitler;
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Italians,
the Finns,
Spanirds,
Slovaks,
the French,
Scandinavians,
and even other Russians
all committed to destroying Communism, just like Corvinus asserts the US delegated Israel to do.
Fancy that: Hitler and Israel, on the same side.
But Franklin Delano Roosevelt made friends with Stalin.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau funneled money and weapons-- lots of both -- to Stalin.
Henry Morgenthau's right-hand man, Harry Dexter White, was employed by Moscow to spy on USA.
How do you explain that, Corvinus?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322698
It would be one thing if you had a specific argument to make against something that someone in this string has asserted. But you really don't. It's all just a generalized complaint about how unfair everyone is being. Quite nonsensical really. And then to resort to the ultimate straw man--"assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world." No one in this string has said that. Again, you should focus less on what you imagine that unspecified people are asserting and more on the specific arguments being made with which you disagree.
That way, you might be able to relieve yourself of the psychological dependence you seem to have on "Joos."
“Quite nonsensical really. And then to resort to the ultimate straw man–”assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world.” No one in this string has said that.”
That’s not “fundamentally accurate”.
“Those don’t even compare to the barbarity that Israel commits.”
“The noble tradition of Judaism has been sacrificed for the obnoxious and murderous ethnocentrism (of the “chosen” variety).”
“what does “Joo baiting,” a phrase you have employed several times, really mean?”
Should Israel be criticized for their policies? Absolutely. Is it anti-semitism to engage in such criticism? No. Do some people mischaracterize at least and outright lie at worst about Joos? Yes. One need only look at the above references. Perhaps people ought to look inwardly at their own tribal issues rather than attribute their own issues squarely upon other tribes.
“That way, you might be able to relieve yourself of the psychological dependence you seem to have on “Joos.”
I am not the one talking about “Zionist conspiracies” and how the federal government is in the “pocket of Israel”.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322709
“…here can be no accountability, equivalency or judgement until six or twelve millions of gentiles first perish in recompense.”
How many Jews are preferring to live outside Israel currently? And how many of these “outsiders” have their hearts and minds shaped by the culture they grew up in – instead of being nurtured by the visceral hatred for the gentiles?
Take a story of the Bolshevik Revolution and first Soviet Government that can be justifiably called the Government of Terrorists. Look at the ethnic composition of this Government. Next look at the presence of Jews among the bosses and middle-range officers in the Soviet secret police. If you decide to take and effort to look at the data, you would find that the disproportionate number of bosses in the first Soviet government and secret police were Jews. This discovery (of a rather well-known fact) would help you to comprehend why a documentary book, “Two Hundred Years Together,” written by the Nobel Prize winner A. Solzhenitsyn, was refused to be published in English translation by all American and UK publishing houses. The documentary, “Two Hundred Years Together,” presents the facts on the role of Jews in the bloody Russian revolution; these facts are intolerable for the Holocaust biz. Considering the number of Russian victims and the epic ruin suffered by Russian civilization as a result of the Bolshevik Revolution, how many Jews should be held for “accountability, equivalency or judgement” in relation to the genocidal crimes that had been committed not only against ethnic Russians but against Ukrainians, Belorussians, Asians, Caucasians, and other people that had been living in the Russian empire?
Meanwhile, the growing antipathy towards Israel has its causes in he following: “…the State of Israel is the state of those who hold Jewish Nationality – which supersedes their citizenship.” In short, it is OK for Israel (and the dreaming zionists) to feast parasitically on the resources of western civilization.
Yours was a grandiose pronouncement on “accountability, equivalency or judgement until…” and so forth, which, as you can see, cannot withstand the force of facts.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322724
It is precisely those modern, Arabic regimes that Israel targets for dismemberment (the primary threat to Israel is demographic, not military; the Oded Yinon plan) where Christians and other religious minorities (as well as women) enjoy the greatest protection in the ME.
I have to say I find amusing those who crow about Israel's achievements; they exist parasitically off of the US and would not exist as a racialist state without active US support (quite contrary to US interests).
Maybe you are Muslim maybe you are Christian. But Muslims like you are the reason Israel is armed to the hilt, nukes and all. Muslims jihadists have the same Zionist conspiracy hallucinations as you. Party on Muhammad, just remember, you mess with the bull (Israel) and you will get the horns. Can ya blame them? The Israelis know that in the Middle East only the paranoid survive.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322747
True story.
palestinians killed by israel 1967 to present . 25,000
papuans killed by indonesia 1963 to present . 500,000
tibetans killed by china 1940s to present .200,000
Israel is not a Western country either - it is a Jew country - ask them.
One wrong NEVER justifies another wrong. A valid Western ideal.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322756
It amuses and saddens me when I see someone write this, as it indicates that the writer thinks that ‘key media and political players’ are unblemished until someone nefarious turns up and suborns them.
That’s so far from a sensible premise that it amounts to a Flat Earth view of politics. It assumes that Acton’s aphorism (‘power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely’) was not a masterful piece of misdirection (I say ‘misdirection’ because it gets the situation precisely backwards: power attracts the already corrupt).
If I was the head of a foreign clandestine service (or any organisation that relied on the corruption of politicians or bureaucrats), the last thing I would do is wait until people got to political office before suborning them. I would have my people scouring university campuses and trade union movements for political aspirants, and luring them into compromising themselves by setting up situations in which they would advance only so long as they crossed a moral line that can subsequently be used against them.
Political aspirants are among the most easily-identifiable subgroups of any student body: Blair, Cameron, Rudd, Gillard, Hawke, Brown, Obama, Clinton… all were student-political-aspirants (and many of them were actual student politicians).
Given that the desire for political power (and power more generally) derives from an already-degenerate psychotype, identifying those who are willing to cross any line – even as a university student-politician – would be straightforward, and once identified, only those who were suborned would subsequently be ‘favoured’ by the next layer of the onion (which is made up of the previous generations of suborned power-seekers).
From there, it’s easy: the would-be politician knows from that day forward that if he (or she) strays from the line, the photos of the ‘surprise packet’ are released.
As a former elite student (albeit one with absolutely zero political interest – I have been an anarchist since I was an undergraduate), I was aware of several approaches by individuals who clearly had an agenda. Other students of my acquaintance – some of whom were obvious political aspirants – experienced the same thing.
It could be the old-fashioned honey-trap (or ‘honeypot, if you prefer): invite the individual to a series of parties that devolve to progressively deeper levels of depravity – and rely on the willingness of political aspirants to ‘go along to get along’… next thing you know, you’ve got footage of them having sex with a child or a trannie (impulse controls weakens significantly when the target is drunk and stoned).
Philby, Burgess, McLean and Blunt were honeypotted by the KGB back when homosexuality was a career-ender (in fact it was illegal and they faced jail time).
Hence my assertion that paedophilia rings are actually controlled by intelligence services: they exist first and foremost to compromise aspiring politicians and senior bureaucrats (who, while degenerate, are not actually paedophiles but are prepared to cross that line if it gets them into the next layer of the onion), the better to enable them to be fully dependent on the good graces of those who entrap them.
And of course if the target refuses to be drawn into a compromising situation, their political career ends right there – without them even knowing that it’s dead in the water… because in politics (and the senior levels of the bureaucracy), unless you get preferment from an important clique within one or other political party, you have no future.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322758
Sure, a large part of the root causes of Anti-Semitism is Jewish double standards. I’m not the Unz resident neocon, just look at the rest of my posting history.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322760
You’re one of the volunteers referred to above with your fake Arab name to counter with your Hasbara bs
bs ??
i posted un statistics of casualties in various ongoing conflicts . sorry if you dont like facts or truth . feel free to carry on your taqqiyah and kitman attempts !!!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322762
Israel was part and parcel to the American plans to thwart communism at every turn during the Cold War. It is not surprising that Israel received nuclear technical support and a free pass to use that technology against their sworn enemy, Islam. Whether or not America should or should not continue that relationship is predicated upon one's tribe. I prefer to be human and not necessarily align myself to Joo or anti-Joo intentions. I will leave that up to the race baiters.
“The Israeli nuclear and missile programs have basically gotten a free ride in the western media.”
Everyone knows about Israel’s intentions. There is no secret there. It’s about teams. Israel, despite their petulance, is on the American side. Iran is on the other side, the “evil” side. Within this international drama, there are anti-humanity undertones throughout.
“Why did Israel kidnap Mordecai Vanunu off the streets of Rome after he began to reveal aspects of the Israeli nuclear program?”
That’s a complicated matter, an entire thread can be devoted to the circumstances surrounding this event.
“Is that question meant to be relevant?”
Yes, as there a number of posters on this fine blog that focus on “whites” who are in favor of Joos as being “anti-white”.
“Do you favor the Eastern European Jewish conquest of Palestine and the gradual ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people?”
I responded to the question in the way I can only answer it—Yes, Joos have a lobby. Yes, Joos are tribal. Yes, Joos seek to look out for their interests. Just like any other group, like your lobby, your tribe, your interests. What, you don’t think your machinations are any different when it comes to destruction and mayhem and chaos?
“Conquest”? “Ethnic cleansing”? I’m not sure about that.
“So if that boycott was “understandable,” then is their subsequent and current resistance “understandable” as well?”
Of course.
“you have no real intellectual framework for dealing with the inevitable conflicts among human groups other than pallid homiletics.”
I have a framework—treat others the way you want to be treated. When talking about complicated matters that have layers of nuance and centuries of hatred behind it, that framework unfortunately becomes untenable. What is lost are the messages of humanity in the Torah and in the Koran.
“Do you think that the US relationship with Israel benefits the US strategically?”
In the end, nations have interests, not allies. The American relationship with Israel is strategic. Whether one person believes it is beneficial or detrimental squarely depends on how a person feels about one’s tribe.
That’s what confuses me about communism.
In 1918-1919 Woodrow Wilson deployed US soldiers beefed up by Japanese forces in a bid to “destroy Bolshevism.” It failed; backfired, in fact.
In 1932-1933 Stalin and the Bolsheviks killed 7- or 8-million Ukrainians, Russian peasants, kulaks (according to Martin Amis and Susan Liebman Butler).
One of the first things Franklin Delano Roosevelt did in 1933 was to secretly dispatch Henry Morgenthau Jr. to negotiate with Litvinenko to grant diplomatic recognition to Stalin’s Russia and to arrange for the recompense for American property lost in the 1917 revolutions. Bolshevism was no longer a scourge; it wasn’t a problem any more.
That was just the beginning of Franklin Roosevelt’s courting of Stalin (according to Susan Butler). The president and his Sec’y of the Treasury, Morgenthau, went out of their way to generate and gather up US taxpayer money and send it to Stalin.
This is all well before 1942, when the first evidence of the alleged holocaust was published by Rabbi Stephen Wise.
FDR & Morgenthau began gearing up to support Stalin and destroy Germany even before 1938 and the Munich Agreement.
And speaking of 1938 — it was in that year that Herbert Hoover met with Hitler and concluded that Hitler’s three idees fixes were to unify Germany from its fragmentation post Versailles; to expand German access to resources; and “to destroy the Russian Communist government.” (Freedom Betrayed, p. 60 )
Just a few hours ago someone posted this comment on a rigorously moderated blog:
So what we have is
the USA (W. Wilson);
Adolf Hitler;
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Italians,
the Finns,
Spanirds,
Slovaks,
the French,
Scandinavians,
and even other Russians
all committed to destroying Communism, just like Corvinus asserts the US delegated Israel to do.
Fancy that: Hitler and Israel, on the same side.
But Franklin Delano Roosevelt made friends with Stalin.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau funneled money and weapons– lots of both — to Stalin.
Henry Morgenthau’s right-hand man, Harry Dexter White, was employed by Moscow to spy on USA.
How do you explain that, Corvinus?
FDR was astute in his decision to secure diplomatic relations with the U.S.S.R. to settle debts owed by Russia to America and to secure the legal status of Americans living there. Official policy against communism was not null and void as a result of this foreign affairs decision.
“This is all well before 1942, when the first evidence of the alleged holocaust was published by Rabbi Stephen Wise.”
Holocaust denier, huh. Oh, brother.
“But Franklin Delano Roosevelt made friends with Stalin. Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau funneled money and weapons– lots of both — to Stalin. Henry Morgenthau’s right-hand man, Harry Dexter White, was employed by Moscow to spy on USA.”
How do you explain that, Corvinus?”
The same way that the Reagan courted members of the Iranian government after the hostage situation to sell weapons to Israel and use that cash to fund Nicaraguan freedom fighters, while simultaneously funding Saddam Hussein in his Jihad against his bitter rival; the same way that Chinese nationalists and communists worked sided by side during World War II to defeat the Japanese, then proceeded to slaughter one another in a bitter civil war, resulting in a communist victory. Nations have interests, not allies. If it suits their interests at a particular moment in time, regardless of ideological differences, a nation will assist overtly or covertly their sworn enemy.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322774
For the love of God, in what specific ways were the stories “fraudulent”? What facts are you able to present that these individuals should be hauled to jail for running this story? How are YOU able to make this sole determination that they are guilty compared to legal experts? What are your qualifications?
Better yet, how does one go about even writing a law that makes lying by a reporter or news agency, or even a common citizen, a criminal offense?
Are you willing to live in a society where the distinct possibility exists that YOU could be thrown in jail for "deliberately propagating lies"?
Stating your accusation over and over again does equate to "evidence". Please answer the questions.
One need not be a legal expert to realize when one is being lied to. Are you truly suggesting Judy Miller wasn’t lying in her reporting? Here’s just one reference:
Now, as we all know, everyone (even journalists) has their biases. Here’s a previous comment I posted that sheds a little light on some of Judy’s:
I also have taken to heart Cynthia McKinney’s admonition to “know who’s who in the zoo.” To that end, here is a little info on Judy’s bio, which may help explain which country she was referring to when she said “Yeah, I have a real fear for my country”:
And, finally, with regard to your comment:
I kind of look at it this way. Are there not laws currently on the books that throw people in jail if they scream “fire” in a crowded movie theatre? Well, Judy was screaming “WMD” and the consequences of her doing so were exponentially more devastating than someone screaming “fire.” So if we have a law to protect a few movie goers, shouldn’t we have a law that protects against the wholesale slaughter of hundreds of thousands, if not a million, people?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322777
and I know what is coming...but Jews always talk about Jews are they not equally unbalanced?
No. Jews talking about Jews are normal. Jains also talk a lot about Jains.
Now it is true that we must recognise that Israel is no saint and we must also recognise that Jews often have ethnic pressure groups which pursue their ethnic self-interest. We must not forget however that these are normal things and dwarfed by the innumerable groups representing other foreign interests. (perhaps Giraldi is in one of these group's pay?)
So we can see that Hebdo's coverage is proportionate. Giraldi's is not. What gall then for him to criticise them by posing as the underdog who has found the moral high ground. It is Hebdo which truly speaks truth to power.
Giraldi's writings will never provoke masked men to storm his home and gun him down...
I presume that Giraldi would happily give our countries away if only it would spite the Jews.
No. Jews talking about Jews are normal. Jains also talk a lot about Jains.
Yes, agree 100% – Jew conspiring with our Jews against their Gentile neighbors is normal,
You are trying to put lipstick on a pig!
You protest to loudly – the truth is self-evident.
Israel is the face of the Jew – and it is nothing short of evil.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322780
I don’t know what Greg Bacon was smoking but I’m sure you’re suffering from Tay-Sachs.
Historically the Golan Heights belongs to Lebanon but that criminal Herzl knew the importance of water sources to let Europe’s unwanted Jews to “bloom the Desert” where 750,000 Palestinians were already living for centuries.
Lebanon appeared on Zionist Jewish hit list in 1919, when the World Zionist Congress delegation at the Paris Peace Conference said the Lebanese Litani River, Golan Heights and Jordan Valley (West Bank), were “essential for the necessary economic foundation of the new state for Jews. It must have the control of Arab rivers and headwaters.”
As result of its 1967 aggression, Israel gained control of waters of the West Bank and the Sea of Galilee – but not the Litani River. The West Bank’s mountain aquifer and Sea of Galilee provides 60% of Israel’s freshwater needs – over one billion cubic meters per year.
After WWI, Syria (al-Sham) became French colony and Palestine, Trans-Jordan, and Iraq British colonies. French divided al-Sham on religion basis; Lebanon for Christians and Syria for Muslims. In 1940, British colonists traded the Golan Heights to the French in exchange for territory in present day Jordan (here). Both occupied Golan Heights and Shebaa Farms are great source of water supplies to the illegal Jewish settlers.
https://rehmat1.com/2015/10/10/israels-biggest-prize-would-be-lebanon/
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322786
is your real name druid ?
bs ??
i posted un statistics of casualties in various ongoing conflicts . sorry if you dont like facts or truth . feel free to carry on your taqqiyah and kitman attempts !!!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322787
papuans killed by indonesia 1963 to present . 500,000
tibetans killed by china 1940s to present .200,000
I had to go way back in my archive of comments, but I managed to dig this one up:
Anyway if you want to live out your alt right / white nationalist fantasies and have them come true , just stop obsessing over jews and try something novel like having sex and procreating a next white generation . Can you manage to get off the internet long enough ?? I know you are alt right /white nationalist and comment sections are your natural habitat but if you don't have white children , then all the whining you do about jews online is moot because there won't be a next white generation . And funny thing is that the few young whites out there these days find your alt right / white nationalist noises to be garbage and they reject it . Young whites like gays and diversity and multiculturalism and all the things you hate . I should say the famous " WAKE UP WHITE MAN "!!!!!!!!!!!........But alas its too late !!!!!!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322791
Good that you brought back that Judith Miller form the memory hole.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322794
papuans killed by indonesia 1963 to present . 500,000
tibetans killed by china 1940s to present .200,000
Again those countries are not Western countries.
Israel is not a Western country either – it is a Jew country – ask them.
One wrong NEVER justifies another wrong. A valid Western ideal.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322795
Absolutely! These diabolical creatures are panicking more than I’ve ever seen. Everywhere you look, too, not just here.
Karma is coming due FAST and they know it and it terrifies them, as rightly it should. They can’t even imagine the Hell that awaits them.
Soon “The Chosen Ones” will be nothing but a very, very bad memory and there will be peace in the (goyim) world.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322802
In 1918-1919 Woodrow Wilson deployed US soldiers beefed up by Japanese forces in a bid to "destroy Bolshevism." It failed; backfired, in fact.
In 1932-1933 Stalin and the Bolsheviks killed 7- or 8-million Ukrainians, Russian peasants, kulaks (according to Martin Amis and Susan Liebman Butler).
One of the first things Franklin Delano Roosevelt did in 1933 was to secretly dispatch Henry Morgenthau Jr. to negotiate with Litvinenko to grant diplomatic recognition to Stalin's Russia and to arrange for the recompense for American property lost in the 1917 revolutions. Bolshevism was no longer a scourge; it wasn't a problem any more.
That was just the beginning of Franklin Roosevelt's courting of Stalin (according to Susan Butler). The president and his Sec'y of the Treasury, Morgenthau, went out of their way to generate and gather up US taxpayer money and send it to Stalin.
This is all well before 1942, when the first evidence of the alleged holocaust was published by Rabbi Stephen Wise.
FDR & Morgenthau began gearing up to support Stalin and destroy Germany even before 1938 and the Munich Agreement.
And speaking of 1938 -- it was in that year that Herbert Hoover met with Hitler and concluded that Hitler's three idees fixes were to unify Germany from its fragmentation post Versailles; to expand German access to resources; and "to destroy the Russian Communist government." (Freedom Betrayed, p. 60 )
Just a few hours ago someone posted this comment on a rigorously moderated blog:So what we have is
the USA (W. Wilson);
Adolf Hitler;
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Italians,
the Finns,
Spanirds,
Slovaks,
the French,
Scandinavians,
and even other Russians
all committed to destroying Communism, just like Corvinus asserts the US delegated Israel to do.
Fancy that: Hitler and Israel, on the same side.
But Franklin Delano Roosevelt made friends with Stalin.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau funneled money and weapons-- lots of both -- to Stalin.
Henry Morgenthau's right-hand man, Harry Dexter White, was employed by Moscow to spy on USA.
How do you explain that, Corvinus?
“Bolshevism was no longer a scourge; it wasn’t a problem any more.”
FDR was astute in his decision to secure diplomatic relations with the U.S.S.R. to settle debts owed by Russia to America and to secure the legal status of Americans living there. Official policy against communism was not null and void as a result of this foreign affairs decision.
“This is all well before 1942, when the first evidence of the alleged holocaust was published by Rabbi Stephen Wise.”
Holocaust denier, huh. Oh, brother.
“But Franklin Delano Roosevelt made friends with Stalin. Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau funneled money and weapons– lots of both — to Stalin. Henry Morgenthau’s right-hand man, Harry Dexter White, was employed by Moscow to spy on USA.”
How do you explain that, Corvinus?”
The same way that the Reagan courted members of the Iranian government after the hostage situation to sell weapons to Israel and use that cash to fund Nicaraguan freedom fighters, while simultaneously funding Saddam Hussein in his Jihad against his bitter rival; the same way that Chinese nationalists and communists worked sided by side during World War II to defeat the Japanese, then proceeded to slaughter one another in a bitter civil war, resulting in a communist victory. Nations have interests, not allies. If it suits their interests at a particular moment in time, regardless of ideological differences, a nation will assist overtly or covertly their sworn enemy.
The point to absorb is that of chronology:
In 1932-33 Stalin, for the purpose of advancing communism, killed ~8 million people.
Even as this was taking place, Roosevelt allied with him and therefore with the Communist system, which, as you asserted, was so heinous that USA partnered with Israel to confront.
What changed about Communism between 1933 when Roosevelt endorsed Communism and whenever it was that USA partnered with Israel to combat Communism?
In 1933, there was no holocaust.
In 1933, Stalin & Communists were killing Christians and others in Russia.
Why did FDR and Morgenthau go behind the backs of US State Department (and also Congress) to send money and weapons to a communist regime that was perpetrating genocide?
Repeat: In 1933, there was no holocaust (of Jews) being carried out in Germany.
Tim Snyder is author of Bloodlands. Here's how he explained how and why chronology matters if one is doing authentic history:
---I could be gallant and assume you merely reversed the sellers and buyers of weapons, but I choose not to.
You got it wrong.
Israel was the broker/seller --
"It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment." - wikipedia
(Heaven fore fend that Israel not end up a beneficiary somewhere in the scheme. Don't be a freier.)
Iran was the buyer.
Contras in Nicaragua were recipients of the loot.
US taxpayers also saw their wallets lightened.
This was not about Israel functioning to assist US in fighting Communism, except to the extent that IRAN under the Shah had been the US buttress against Communism in the Gulf region. (Iran was the first crisis the UN had to confront: Communist Russia refused to leave Iran post-WWII; only UN and threats of US force to back it up defused the threat of WWIII).
When the Iranian people tired of being oppressed by a US puppet who tortured the Iranian people and squandered Iranian treasure on weaponry bought from USA (inter alia) they rebelled against the Shah and replaced him with Ayatollah Khomeini.
In the weakness of that early revolutionary period, at least these three things happened:
1. Saddam took advantage of Iranian turmoil to wage war with Iran over access to a waterway. USA encouraged Saddam in that war, out of pique at Iran having decamped.
2. Israel went ape-shit. They had lost their key pillar in their Periphery Doctrine; they lost access to Iranian treasury and internal secrets; (Ronen Bergman discussed this in The Secret War With Iran, ch. on Operation Seashell iirc )
3. USA lost its buttress to Communist threat to the Persian Gulf region.
---
Nevertheless, in the process of your misguided argument, you have demonstrated yet one more set of that humanity that you so love that was oppressed by Communism; namely, the Iranian AND Iraqi people -- what's that, about 120 million all told?
Had Franklin Roosevelt followed Herbert Hoover's informed and earnest advice and stayed out of the way and let Hitler and Stalin duke it out, "a century of peace would have ensued." (see Freedom Betrayed, by Herbert Hoover).
27 million Russians would not have died.
12 million Germans would not have died.
8 million Poles would not have died.
~5 million Iranians would not have died.
~4 million Iraqis would not have died
~ 1 million Palestinians would not have died
500 000 American soldiers would not have died
475,000 Italians would not have died
~195,000 Jews would not have died
All because Franklin Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau, Jr. allied with a genocidal Communist when much of the rest of the world though that regime should be destroyed, and spent the next 50 years trying to destroy it.
Israel has never been an asset to USA, not in defense against Communism or anything else --hell, Jews were major originators of Communism, major participants in Communism. Israel has always been a net taker in the US-Israel special relationship.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322813
Here’s a previous comment I posted:
And we only found out about this secret MOU because Edward Snowden was courageous enough to disclose it. You would think that this bombshell of a story would be reported on the front page of the NYT, the so-called newspaper of record, right? Here’s what Margaret Sullivan of the NYT wrote shortly after the disclosure:
And Hastert the 'wrasslin coach' - as if there could ever be anything remotely suss about a grown-ass man who likes to hang around sweaty teenage men grappling one another... (here's lookin' at you, Rumsfeld...)
Closeted-gay folks aside, there is a pattern. These men (and people like Jim Bakker, Swaggart, Haggard, and the rest of them - [ahem]Boehner???[ahem]) all had something that could be used against them if they so much as hinted that they were thinking of going off the reservation.
Pity for at least 2 of them, that they weren't brought down by threatening to go off the reservation: their downfall was far more mundane... they say "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned", but a scorned gay lover sure comes close.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322817
For the love of God, in what specific ways were the stories “fraudulent”? What facts are you able to present that these individuals should be hauled to jail for running this story? How are YOU able to make this sole determination that they are guilty compared to legal experts? What are your qualifications?
Better yet, how does one go about even writing a law that makes lying by a reporter or news agency, or even a common citizen, a criminal offense?
Are you willing to live in a society where the distinct possibility exists that YOU could be thrown in jail for "deliberately propagating lies"?
Stating your accusation over and over again does equate to "evidence". Please answer the questions.
You could ask European governments how they did it. Most have laws mandating prison time for anyone discussing or publishing anything not in full agreement with the official version of the holocau$t. The 1st Amendment is the only reason the US doesn’t have and similar laws.
We could, but why?
"The 1st Amendment is the only reason the US doesn’t have and similar laws."
Tell me something I don't know.
So much for free speech and "democracy" in Europe...
But your 1st Amendment is largely an illusion too.
In the US, aka, ZUSA inc., the powers that be use soft power to gag people and it works wonders.
Talk about the holohoax in zamerica and you'll be out of a job the next day...not to mention the Character assassination. If u doubt it, ask Fred Leuchter.
ps: there r a bunch of other subjects - besides the big h(most sacred cow of all) in zamerica which would land 'free' zamerican citizens in hot waters despite the first. just saying.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322822
“One need not be a legal expert to realize when one is being lied to. Are you truly suggesting Judy Miller wasn’t lying in her reporting?”
Judy Miller was telling her version of the truth, because you and others have evidence of her telling things other than the truth, she ought to be immediately put in jail. How is one able to legislate lying in light of freedom of speech/the press? How do you determine their intent from a legal point of view?
George Hay, 1799—“There is truth in opinion, as well as in fact. Error in opinion may do as much harm, as falsity in fact; it may be as morally wrong, and it may [originate from motives which may be malicious in nature]…But the power of controlling opinions has never yet been claimed…and the difficulty of distinguishing fact and opinion is extremely great, and no criteria has been established under law to make such a determination.”
In other words, opinions rooted in falsehoods cannot be legislated against.
“Are there not laws currently on the books that throw people in jail if they scream “fire” in a crowded movie theatre?”
This situation has been recognized by the Supreme Court as being a reasonable exception to the First Amendment because there is a clear and present danger.
“Well, Judy was screaming “WMD” and the consequences of her doing so were exponentially more devastating than someone screaming “fire.””
How do you prove “exponentially more devastating”? What legal standard are you able to currently employ under the freedom of the press? Would Congress even enact such legislation and would the Supreme Court be able to craft a decision justifying it?
Exactly why your comparison holds no water.
“So if we have a law to protect a few movie goers, shouldn’t we have a law that protects against the wholesale slaughter of hundreds of thousands, if not a million, people?”
Perhaps you have Daddy Warbucks cash lying around and are able to exhume the body of Jim Garrison, reanimate him, and have him try the case.
This is the best apologia for Judy Miller.
A characterization of Judy Miller by an honest person that knew Judy for many years: "Apparently, she felt that belonging to the right group – the neocons -- implied the possession of every sort of virtue. It is my opinion that Judy was always alert to seize every advantage before it escaped her. Everything tempted her. She was always anxious for self-advancement by any means. One may blame her for her greed and ambition, her determination to turn things to her profit, but are common flaws."
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2015/05/judy-miller-by-richard-sale.html
Judy Miller was and is a bloody opportunist. There is no such thing as "the truth" for her contorted mind, because nobody gets money, status, and promotion for the truth. (Rich Sale: "The ideal of the journalists with whom I have worked and have respected, is the reverence for facts, especially inconvenient facts"). Judy Miller is a classic exhibit of a presstitute of psychopathic variety, since she is seemingly oblivious to the results of her "promotional" papers. The wars of aggression that she helped to initiate, have resulted in destruction of the millions of human lives, including deaths of multitude of children. She was and is a "good German" for the ziocons' cause.
Oh yes - the modern Esther - working for the Jew tribe.
She told lies that started a war against an Israeli enemy.
That Jew woman has a lot of blood on her hands.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322823
You might want to take note of the fact that Israel hasn’t messed with Lebanon since the Hezbollah bull cleaning Israel’s plow in 2006.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322833
I have been watching the steady, depressing machinations of the apartheid settler colony and it’s international talons in attempting to stifle criticism with growing concern. It is very depressing, but there is hope.
I remember in New Zealand, some years ago, that israel was receiving a bout of mild negative PR – it may have been after the Mossad were caught, red-handed, attempting to steal the identity of a dead paraplegic child-which was followed by a case of Jewish gravestones being defaced in Wellington. My parents’ (NZ Diplomats) immediate reaction to the latter incident was that it may well have been perpetrated by friends of israel themselves.
There seem to be an ever increasing number of accounts of serious ruptures within the racist state.
It is my hope and wish that these vile criminals will tear themselves apart. It will be fun to watch.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322838
papuans killed by indonesia 1963 to present . 500,000
tibetans killed by china 1940s to present .200,000
Do you see either Chinese or Papuans directing the US policies and extracting billions from the US taxpayers pockets? Moreover, neither Chinese nor Papuans have put their grievances in kind of “never-again” monuments around the US and Europe and neither of them demands a special treatment for their special sufferings, all while attacking the freedom of speech and academic freedoms. Time to step down from your wooden white horse of “moral superiority.”
As far as Papuans , they are denied a voice . Indonesia has made Occupied Papua a closed military zone . Indonesia has killed 20X as many Papuans than Israel has killed Palestinians . Indonesia has killed 500,000 Papuans without a whisper from world media . Meanwhile every Palestinian death makes headlines . Would you silently accept this from Israel ?? Do you think Occupied Papua gets enough media attention ??
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322852
I could easily make the claim that non-Jews, specifically Caucasians...or Muslims...or Christians...hell, any group...are destroying American, Europe, and YOU.
This fixation on Joos is truly fascinating to me. Now, what are YOU prepared to do about it? Are you that impotent not to hatch a plan, a course of action if you will, to thwart the dastardly deeds of Joos?
Hey Corvinus,
All three of those links you provided where pro-Israel links – NOT anti Israel nukes – you provided no evidence of the public denunciation of Israeli nukes —- please be honest.
Looking at your comment history, one can see that you make one pro-Israel pro-Jew post after another – yet you claim, to NOT be a Jew – Hmm?????
Jesus said “the truth will set you free” – that works for all humans – even Jews. Do you Jews want to be free of your sick obsession with your selves and your tribe?
My plan is to post the truth about Jew tribalness, Jew nukes, and the evil that is Israel.
Yours Art
I was requested to offer proof regarding discussion of Israel and their Jericho missile program.
"yet you claim, to NOT be a Jew – Hmm?????"
Anyone who talks about Joos, and fails to denounce them on a thread full of anti-Joos, must be a Joo. Sir, that is illogical (Spock brow).
"My plan is to post the truth about Jew tribalness, Jew nukes, and the evil that is Israel."
Your version of the truth, yes. Similar to my version to expose the hypocrisy of your tribe, your nukes, and the evil that is your tribe, whatever group you belong to.
Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322859
“Judy Miller was telling her version of the truth”
This is the best apologia for Judy Miller.
A characterization of Judy Miller by an honest person that knew Judy for many years: “Apparently, she felt that belonging to the right group – the neocons — implied the possession of every sort of virtue. It is my opinion that Judy was always alert to seize every advantage before it escaped her. Everything tempted her. She was always anxious for self-advancement by any means. One may blame her for her greed and ambition, her determination to turn things to her profit, but are common flaws.”
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2015/05/judy-miller-by-richard-sale.html
Judy Miller was and is a bloody opportunist. There is no such thing as “the truth” for her contorted mind, because nobody gets money, status, and promotion for the truth. (Rich Sale: “The ideal of the journalists with whom I have worked and have respected, is the reverence for facts, especially inconvenient facts”). Judy Miller is a classic exhibit of a presstitute of psychopathic variety, since she is seemingly oblivious to the results of her “promotional” papers. The wars of aggression that she helped to initiate, have resulted in destruction of the millions of human lives, including deaths of multitude of children. She was and is a “good German” for the ziocons’ cause.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322877
Judy Miller was telling her version of the truth
Oh yes – the modern Esther – working for the Jew tribe.
She told lies that started a war against an Israeli enemy.
That Jew woman has a lot of blood on her hands.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322904
FDR was astute in his decision to secure diplomatic relations with the U.S.S.R. to settle debts owed by Russia to America and to secure the legal status of Americans living there. Official policy against communism was not null and void as a result of this foreign affairs decision.
“This is all well before 1942, when the first evidence of the alleged holocaust was published by Rabbi Stephen Wise.”
Holocaust denier, huh. Oh, brother.
“But Franklin Delano Roosevelt made friends with Stalin. Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau funneled money and weapons– lots of both — to Stalin. Henry Morgenthau’s right-hand man, Harry Dexter White, was employed by Moscow to spy on USA.”
How do you explain that, Corvinus?”
The same way that the Reagan courted members of the Iranian government after the hostage situation to sell weapons to Israel and use that cash to fund Nicaraguan freedom fighters, while simultaneously funding Saddam Hussein in his Jihad against his bitter rival; the same way that Chinese nationalists and communists worked sided by side during World War II to defeat the Japanese, then proceeded to slaughter one another in a bitter civil war, resulting in a communist victory. Nations have interests, not allies. If it suits their interests at a particular moment in time, regardless of ideological differences, a nation will assist overtly or covertly their sworn enemy.
Holocaust derangement syndrome. Oh, brother.
The point to absorb is that of chronology:
In 1932-33 Stalin, for the purpose of advancing communism, killed ~8 million people.
Even as this was taking place, Roosevelt allied with him and therefore with the Communist system, which, as you asserted, was so heinous that USA partnered with Israel to confront.
What changed about Communism between 1933 when Roosevelt endorsed Communism and whenever it was that USA partnered with Israel to combat Communism?
In 1933, there was no holocaust.
In 1933, Stalin & Communists were killing Christians and others in Russia.
Why did FDR and Morgenthau go behind the backs of US State Department (and also Congress) to send money and weapons to a communist regime that was perpetrating genocide?
Repeat: In 1933, there was no holocaust (of Jews) being carried out in Germany.
Tim Snyder is author of Bloodlands. Here’s how he explained how and why chronology matters if one is doing authentic history:
—
I could be gallant and assume you merely reversed the sellers and buyers of weapons, but I choose not to.
You got it wrong.
Israel was the broker/seller –
“It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment.” – wikipedia
(Heaven fore fend that Israel not end up a beneficiary somewhere in the scheme. Don’t be a freier.)
Iran was the buyer.
Contras in Nicaragua were recipients of the loot.
US taxpayers also saw their wallets lightened.
This was not about Israel functioning to assist US in fighting Communism, except to the extent that IRAN under the Shah had been the US buttress against Communism in the Gulf region. (Iran was the first crisis the UN had to confront: Communist Russia refused to leave Iran post-WWII; only UN and threats of US force to back it up defused the threat of WWIII).
When the Iranian people tired of being oppressed by a US puppet who tortured the Iranian people and squandered Iranian treasure on weaponry bought from USA (inter alia) they rebelled against the Shah and replaced him with Ayatollah Khomeini.
In the weakness of that early revolutionary period, at least these three things happened:
1. Saddam took advantage of Iranian turmoil to wage war with Iran over access to a waterway. USA encouraged Saddam in that war, out of pique at Iran having decamped.
2. Israel went ape-shit. They had lost their key pillar in their Periphery Doctrine; they lost access to Iranian treasury and internal secrets; (Ronen Bergman discussed this in The Secret War With Iran, ch. on Operation Seashell iirc )
3. USA lost its buttress to Communist threat to the Persian Gulf region.
—
Nevertheless, in the process of your misguided argument, you have demonstrated yet one more set of that humanity that you so love that was oppressed by Communism; namely, the Iranian AND Iraqi people — what’s that, about 120 million all told?
Had Franklin Roosevelt followed Herbert Hoover’s informed and earnest advice and stayed out of the way and let Hitler and Stalin duke it out, “a century of peace would have ensued.” (see Freedom Betrayed, by Herbert Hoover).
27 million Russians would not have died.
12 million Germans would not have died.
8 million Poles would not have died.
~5 million Iranians would not have died.
~4 million Iraqis would not have died
~ 1 million Palestinians would not have died
500 000 American soldiers would not have died
475,000 Italians would not have died
~195,000 Jews would not have died
All because Franklin Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau, Jr. allied with a genocidal Communist when much of the rest of the world though that regime should be destroyed, and spent the next 50 years trying to destroy it.
Israel has never been an asset to USA, not in defense against Communism or anything else –hell, Jews were major originators of Communism, major participants in Communism. Israel has always been a net taker in the US-Israel special relationship.
The lesser of two evils, a philosophy embraced by individuals, groups, and nations since the beginning of time.
Nations have interests, not allies. If it suits their interests at a particular moment in time, regardless of ideological differences, a nation will assist overtly or covertly their sworn enemy.
As far as I know, the Americans providing arms and material to the Soviets for their fight against Nazi Germany via lend-lease, which was under the purview of Congress. Unless you have information regarding cash and guns received by the Soviets prior to this official policy.
“I could be gallant and assume you merely reversed the sellers and buyers of weapons, but I choose not to.”
You’re right, you’re not gallant amid my mistake.
“This was not about Israel functioning to assist US in fighting Communism...”
Correct, Israel served as the go-between in a deal that enabled the U.S. to combat communism in Central America despite a Congressional ban. Israel was used as a means to an end.
“you have demonstrated yet one more set of that humanity that you so love that was oppressed by Communism; namely, the Iranian AND Iraqi people”
As has the millions murdered in the name of Christianity, in the name of the United States, in the name of European superiority, in the name of African tribal warfare, in the name of Chinese dominance, etc. Humanity has no bounds in its inhumanity.
“Had Franklin Roosevelt followed Herbert Hoover’s informed and earnest advice and stayed out of the way and let Hitler and Stalin duke it out, “a century of peace would have ensued.”
Given the complexity and nuances of geo-politics and human nature, COULD, not would.
“All because Franklin Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau, Jr. allied with a genocidal Communist when much of the rest of the world though that regime should be destroyed”
The United States, and Great Britain, and France, and Canada, and Australia, and a host of other nations on the Allied Side, in the name of humanity. Except out of humanity arise inhumane courses of action.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322908
The Jews of the Middle East would be suffering the same fate as the Christians except for one fact. They have their own nation and plenty of firepower.
Israel is fine with ISIS as long as they target the Shia. They see ISIS as something that can get those pesky Shia out of the way so they can follow through on the Yinon Plan, gaining control of their “promised” lands.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322944
[…] 10, 2016 “Information Clearing House” – “Unz Review” – Swedish Foreign Minister Margot Wallstrom recently suggested an inquiry into a […]
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322954
Yes I do see Chinese directing US policies and extracting billions from taxpayers pockets . You don’t see this ?? Not surprised that an Alt right / White Nationalist is blind to facts . Yet you guys are the superior race , that can’t even manage basic human functions like sex and procreation . 1.1 kids per white couple !!!! The internet and its time wasting / sedentary lifestyle encouraging allure has been the last nail in your alt right / white nationalist coffin.
As far as Papuans , they are denied a voice . Indonesia has made Occupied Papua a closed military zone . Indonesia has killed 20X as many Papuans than Israel has killed Palestinians . Indonesia has killed 500,000 Papuans without a whisper from world media . Meanwhile every Palestinian death makes headlines . Would you silently accept this from Israel ?? Do you think Occupied Papua gets enough media attention ??
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322965
For the love of God, in what specific ways were the stories “fraudulent”? What facts are you able to present that these individuals should be hauled to jail for running this story? How are YOU able to make this sole determination that they are guilty compared to legal experts? What are your qualifications?
Better yet, how does one go about even writing a law that makes lying by a reporter or news agency, or even a common citizen, a criminal offense?
Are you willing to live in a society where the distinct possibility exists that YOU could be thrown in jail for "deliberately propagating lies"?
Stating your accusation over and over again does equate to "evidence". Please answer the questions.
Allow me, Geo
Mr Corvanus.
Initiating a war of aggression is universally recognized as the SUPREME international crime.
Defrauding the American people into committing a supreme international crime should not only be considered a criminal act…… but a supreme TERRORIST act…and absolutely nothing less….Nothing ….less.
Its not on the issue of “reporting” that these media acolytes should be judged,,,its on the issue of TERRORISM against the United States of America and its entire citizenry.
Shameful.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls, Mr Corvanus, It tolls for thee and thy defrauders who are nothing more than Terrorists……. with a capital T.
Corvanus…you are welcome to “fraudulate” and “obfuscate” to your hearts content.
But the truth is …Guantanamo Bay is way to good for these fraudulent scum.
Perhaps you should be remaindered there, too….to think about it for a couple dozen years.
Then you might learn a proper lesson in the distinction between “defrauding ” and “reporting”.
How else will you, and those you are so anxious to defend,learn,never,to do it again ?
Not if a country is the winner.
"Defrauding the American people into committing a supreme international crime should not only be considered a criminal act."
Find a lawyer and sue.
"Perhaps you should be remaindered there, too….to think about it for a couple dozen years."
And now, ladies, we have reached critical mass. Enter fascism, which is fundamentally anti-humanity. I merely question how and why an opinion can be instantly declared "a lie" to the point that the person uttering that opinion is immediately incarcerated.
"its on the issue of TERRORISM against the United States of America and its entire citizenry."
So, besides responding to a blog post, what are doing about it? As in, are you openly part of a grass roots movement, with signage in tow, ready to make the five o'clock news through your tribe's own public protest?
Sunday, March 20,, at 12:00 PM - 5:00 PM in EDT -
Phil has been invited to speak at this event. Will you be joining us?
Al-Awda, The Palestinian Right to Return Coalition and the ANSWER Coalition are co-sponsoring the National March to Support Palestine and Protest AIPAC. We are expecting hundreds of organizations and individual leaders to endorse this activity and join the effort!
12 Noon: Assemble at the White House
1pm-5pm: March to the Washington, D.C. Convention Center
.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322966
Thanks for the dissertation . Maybe you need to spend less time on the internet , as your reasoning skills are suffering . Most of what copy pasted is not anything to do with Israel . UN sanctions ?? wtf has nothing to do with Israel . and on and on .
Anyway if you want to live out your alt right / white nationalist fantasies and have them come true , just stop obsessing over jews and try something novel like having sex and procreating a next white generation . Can you manage to get off the internet long enough ?? I know you are alt right /white nationalist and comment sections are your natural habitat but if you don’t have white children , then all the whining you do about jews online is moot because there won’t be a next white generation . And funny thing is that the few young whites out there these days find your alt right / white nationalist noises to be garbage and they reject it . Young whites like gays and diversity and multiculturalism and all the things you hate . I should say the famous ” WAKE UP WHITE MAN “!!!!!!!!!!!……..But alas its too late !!!!!!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322971
Historically the Golan Heights belongs to Lebanon but that criminal Herzl knew the importance of water sources to let Europe's unwanted Jews to "bloom the Desert" where 750,000 Palestinians were already living for centuries.
Lebanon appeared on Zionist Jewish hit list in 1919, when the World Zionist Congress delegation at the Paris Peace Conference said the Lebanese Litani River, Golan Heights and Jordan Valley (West Bank), were “essential for the necessary economic foundation of the new state for Jews. It must have the control of Arab rivers and headwaters.”
As result of its 1967 aggression, Israel gained control of waters of the West Bank and the Sea of Galilee – but not the Litani River. The West Bank’s mountain aquifer and Sea of Galilee provides 60% of Israel’s freshwater needs – over one billion cubic meters per year.
After WWI, Syria (al-Sham) became French colony and Palestine, Trans-Jordan, and Iraq British colonies. French divided al-Sham on religion basis; Lebanon for Christians and Syria for Muslims. In 1940, British colonists traded the Golan Heights to the French in exchange for territory in present day Jordan (here). Both occupied Golan Heights and Shebaa Farms are great source of water supplies to the illegal Jewish settlers.
https://rehmat1.com/2015/10/10/israels-biggest-prize-would-be-lebanon/
The major problem apart from your random pointless and unfocused rudeness is the irrelevance of what you right in so far as it purports to be a reply to what I wrote. You should try to avoid sounding stupid: Jews can be arrogant enough about Muslims’ IQs without your giving them helpful proof.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1322992
Being an anonymous coward seems to be sticking in your craw. You talk about it every time you comment. Or, maybe you don’t. Maybe the rest of your posts are complete contradictions, a series of outright lies. It’s not like anyone would ever know.
You can’t back that up. Not even close. And it’s manifestly false; there’s literally no one here who blames EVERY political, economic, and social problem on Jews. I doubt there’s even a commenter here who comments on EVERY political, economic, and social problem, let alone blames them all on the Jews.
Up your game. You suck.
Don’t bother proving it. We already know he’s an “anti-Semite”; somebody Jews don’t like. It’s a badge of honor and a sign of moral courage.
Organized Jewry is monolithically pro-open-borders.
Yes, the White Lobby’s to be feared. The Anglo-Saxon Lobby is a real monster. Want to know their positions? Check out the Jewish Lobby’s web sites.
Corvinus, are you Lenny Kravitz? It would explain a lot.
LOL
The same positions you hold about anyone who is opposed to your tribe.
"And it’s manifestly false; there’s literally no one here who blames EVERY political, economic, and social problem on Jews."
Communism = Joo origination --> Political and economic
Cultural Marxism = Joo origination --> Social
Western governments puppets of Joos --> Political
Jooish banksters --> Political, economic, social
From these four foundational categories, Joos are to blame for everything, big and small, macro and micro.
Praytell, what problems are Joos NOT associated with, Svigor?
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As far as Papuans , they are denied a voice . Indonesia has made Occupied Papua a closed military zone . Indonesia has killed 20X as many Papuans than Israel has killed Palestinians . Indonesia has killed 500,000 Papuans without a whisper from world media . Meanwhile every Palestinian death makes headlines . Would you silently accept this from Israel ?? Do you think Occupied Papua gets enough media attention ??
Care to tell us what the acronym is for the Indonesian lobbying group? Care to tell us the name of their leader and the number of times he’s addressed a joint session of congress and the number of standing ovations he received?
He reads that 500,000 Papuan civilians have been killed in an occupation and genocide by Indonesia and he only cares to ask about speeches and standing ovations !!!!
Why can't the alt right / white nationalist movement get any good press ???
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323013
“You could ask European governments how they did it.”
We could, but why?
“The 1st Amendment is the only reason the US doesn’t have and similar laws.”
Tell me something I don’t know.
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Your selection of quotes refutes your own argument. Israel has had operational Jericho's since the late 1980s. Yet what is required to generate the NBC article you cite from 2012 ? Iran, of course! See the double standard? The Business Insider article from 2014 is focused on minimizing the size of Israel's nuclear program and arsenal. And the CSM article which you had to go all the way back to 2010 to find comes to no real conclusion on its subject.
Now, compare that to the hundreds of articles, most of them accepting unproven or outright fallacious premises that have flooded the western media over the last decade on the subject of Iran's alleged nuclear weapons program. The Israeli nuclear and missile programs have basically gotten a free ride in the western media. If you can't see that, then you are not the "pro-humanity" neutral that you claim to be.Do you really not know or are you just being deliberately obtuse?
Why did Israel kidnap Mordecai Vanunu off the streets of Rome after he began to reveal aspects of the Israeli nuclear program?
Here are a few basics from the Guardian, but the information is so widespread you can get it many places":
"The Israelis admitted to having a reactor but insisted it was for entirely peaceful purposes. The spent fuel was sent to France for reprocessing, they claimed, even providing film footage of it being supposedly being loaded onto French freighters. Throughout the 60s it flatly denied the existence of the underground reprocessing plant in Dimona that was churning out plutonium for bombs.
Israel refused to countenance visits by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), so in the early 1960s President Kennedy demanded they accept American inspectors. US physicists were dispatched to Dimona but were given the run-around from the start. Visits were never twice-yearly as had been agreed with Kennedy and were subject to repeated postponements. The US physicists sent to Dimona were not allowed to bring their own equipment or collect samples. The lead American inspector, Floyd Culler, an expert on plutonium extraction, noted in his reports that there were newly plastered and painted walls in one of the buildings. It turned out that before each American visit, the Israelis had built false walls around the row of lifts that descended six levels to the subterranean reprocessing plant."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/15/truth-israels-secret-nuclear-arsenal
Do you need more or can you find it yourself?
Corvinus knows full well what is meant by the term fundamentally unproven. By asking stupid questions he asks you to do research that is easily done by anyone except apparently Corvinus.
This is also an oft repeated tactic by him where he attempts to appear to be smart whilst demonstrating actually being the opposite.
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One of the comments Alan Greenspan made in the wake of the bank collapse in 2008 was that he was surprised that the banks weren't intelligent enough to have perceived the risk inherent in say, 200 : 1 leveraging (Lehmann) and would have realized that such actions would threaten the integrity of the system and that they, the banks, therefore would have refrained from such ultimately self defeating behavior.
So, these Jewish geniuses expect us to believe that persons acting selfishly will be capable of perceiving when their individual behavior may threaten the very existence of the system in which they operate and because it is ultimately "rational" to do so would therefore refrain from acting selfishly--all out of selfish motives? Am I the only one who finds this preposterously ludicrous? Not to mention illogical? Perhaps psychopathic?
There is a name for a person who at all times acts rationally to advance their personal gain and that is: sociopath. Another Jew, Ayn Rand, espouses this hyper, asocial psychopathy as a nostrum for all that ails society.
Speaking personally, I act, almost always, to preserve group harmony and cohesion (but then, I am a Scandinavian by heritage). I am always aware of the tension between what I want and how this would strain group relations. I am aware that were any of us to pursue their goals without any considerations for other people's way of thinking and feelings they would find themselves out of a job, alone and friendless and whats more, the system would not stand the strain were we all to pursue our private gain with no consideration for cooperation, compatibility and reconciliation. And obviously, since emotions play a role in my choices, I most certainly don't always act rationally. In all of this, I don't think that I am that different from other Western Europeans (or Japanese, Chinese etc.).
Now Greenspan tries to pull off what Sailer would describe as a "triple bank shot" by saying that "Yes, but in considering your individual self interest you would take into account group cohesion because you are thereby enhancing your individual self interest and so you will restrain yourself from acting in such a way as to undermine blah blah blah…". Horse puckey.
No person--and especially not a Jew--is capable of simultaneously holding in mind and processing every variable on all these different levels as they work through the infinitude of permutations likely to result from any specific action.
As usual, the Jews credit themselves with too much wisdom which leads one to suspect that their convoluted theories may be an elaborate cover to obfuscate the simple fact that they act to enhance their own self interest period--consequences be damned. Too bad if the rest of you get screwed in the process.
Krugman, von Neumann and Greenspan are elder spokesmen for the perspective of the Jewish People and they have spoken so let's do them the courtesy of taking them at their word. In their own words, their motives (which they then project onto the rest of the human race) are coldly-rational and self-interested always and all the time. One can see how this would put Jews in conflict with any society in which they find or found themselves.
So now, the Jews, with Netanyahu as their spokesman want to enact policies which place Jews above criticism for policies in which Jews pursue what they perceive to be their uniquely individual, rational self interest.
In light of the colossal failures, moral failings and intellectual inconsistencies listed above, is anyone else skeptical of Jew's ability to even see what is truly in their (larger) self interest, much less come up with a viable plan and acting on it?
Very well said!
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” When AIPAC and its overseas clones act for Israel the host nations in which these organizations exist should recognize exactly what is taking place. ”
It is not that they are not recognizing what is taking place.Rather it is the fact that they are helpless in doing any thing about it.Israel is a millstone around the West’s neck.The West will sink by the weight of this millstone.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323033
Anyway if you want to live out your alt right / white nationalist fantasies and have them come true , just stop obsessing over jews and try something novel like having sex and procreating a next white generation . Can you manage to get off the internet long enough ?? I know you are alt right /white nationalist and comment sections are your natural habitat but if you don't have white children , then all the whining you do about jews online is moot because there won't be a next white generation . And funny thing is that the few young whites out there these days find your alt right / white nationalist noises to be garbage and they reject it . Young whites like gays and diversity and multiculturalism and all the things you hate . I should say the famous " WAKE UP WHITE MAN "!!!!!!!!!!!........But alas its too late !!!!!!
I hate repeating myself, but you leave me no other choice. Here’s an exchange I had a few years back:
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323034
Yet another excellent and needed piece by Philip Geraldi, who is especially good on the topic of Israel and its many crimes.
I see by the comments thread that the hasbarites have infested this website too. The repetition from website to website is mind-numbing. I guess the lobbies look for the stupidest people they can find so that they can keep up this parroting behaviour.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323035
Wow , what a compassionate and caring guy you are !!!!
He reads that 500,000 Papuan civilians have been killed in an occupation and genocide by Indonesia and he only cares to ask about speeches and standing ovations !!!!
Why can’t the alt right / white nationalist movement get any good press ???
So spare us your crocodile tears over 500,000 Papuan civilians. You seem to forget how then Ambassador to UN Madeleine Albright (born Marie Jana Korbelová) responded when CBS correspondent Leslie Stahl asked her "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" and Albright replied "we think the price is worth it." How's that for genuine Zionist compassion and caring?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323037
I don’t think rehmat is even a muslim at all . I think he is a clever Alt Right / White Nationalist pretending to be a muslim and killing 2 birds with one stone . Trolling jews and making muslims look even more low iq …………
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They were!
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All three of those links you provided where pro-Israel links - NOT anti Israel nukes - you provided no evidence of the public denunciation of Israeli nukes ---- please be honest.
Looking at your comment history, one can see that you make one pro-Israel pro-Jew post after another - yet you claim, to NOT be a Jew - Hmm?????
Jesus said "the truth will set you free" - that works for all humans - even Jews. Do you Jews want to be free of your sick obsession with your selves and your tribe?
My plan is to post the truth about Jew tribalness, Jew nukes, and the evil that is Israel.
Yours Art
” you provided no evidence of the public denunciation of Israeli nukes.”
I was requested to offer proof regarding discussion of Israel and their Jericho missile program.
“yet you claim, to NOT be a Jew – Hmm?????”
Anyone who talks about Joos, and fails to denounce them on a thread full of anti-Joos, must be a Joo. Sir, that is illogical (Spock brow).
“My plan is to post the truth about Jew tribalness, Jew nukes, and the evil that is Israel.”
Your version of the truth, yes. Similar to my version to expose the hypocrisy of your tribe, your nukes, and the evil that is your tribe, whatever group you belong to.
Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.
Corvinus --- you are a joke --- Israel is the most pro-race anti-humanity country on the Earth - PERIOD.
One should never ever trust then words of a Jew talking tribe -- Art
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323046
You know, I kid about Lenny Kravitz, but “Corvinus” could very well be mixed Jewish-black. A character like Corvinus from the Underworld series, with its silly Half-Blood Prince sensibilities, would appeal to a Zionist-defending, black-defending mischling.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323052
For sure Rehmat is on the Likud Zio-Hasbara payroll to make Muslims look like imbeciles.
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The point to absorb is that of chronology:
In 1932-33 Stalin, for the purpose of advancing communism, killed ~8 million people.
Even as this was taking place, Roosevelt allied with him and therefore with the Communist system, which, as you asserted, was so heinous that USA partnered with Israel to confront.
What changed about Communism between 1933 when Roosevelt endorsed Communism and whenever it was that USA partnered with Israel to combat Communism?
In 1933, there was no holocaust.
In 1933, Stalin & Communists were killing Christians and others in Russia.
Why did FDR and Morgenthau go behind the backs of US State Department (and also Congress) to send money and weapons to a communist regime that was perpetrating genocide?
Repeat: In 1933, there was no holocaust (of Jews) being carried out in Germany.
Tim Snyder is author of Bloodlands. Here's how he explained how and why chronology matters if one is doing authentic history:
---I could be gallant and assume you merely reversed the sellers and buyers of weapons, but I choose not to.
You got it wrong.
Israel was the broker/seller --
"It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment." - wikipedia
(Heaven fore fend that Israel not end up a beneficiary somewhere in the scheme. Don't be a freier.)
Iran was the buyer.
Contras in Nicaragua were recipients of the loot.
US taxpayers also saw their wallets lightened.
This was not about Israel functioning to assist US in fighting Communism, except to the extent that IRAN under the Shah had been the US buttress against Communism in the Gulf region. (Iran was the first crisis the UN had to confront: Communist Russia refused to leave Iran post-WWII; only UN and threats of US force to back it up defused the threat of WWIII).
When the Iranian people tired of being oppressed by a US puppet who tortured the Iranian people and squandered Iranian treasure on weaponry bought from USA (inter alia) they rebelled against the Shah and replaced him with Ayatollah Khomeini.
In the weakness of that early revolutionary period, at least these three things happened:
1. Saddam took advantage of Iranian turmoil to wage war with Iran over access to a waterway. USA encouraged Saddam in that war, out of pique at Iran having decamped.
2. Israel went ape-shit. They had lost their key pillar in their Periphery Doctrine; they lost access to Iranian treasury and internal secrets; (Ronen Bergman discussed this in The Secret War With Iran, ch. on Operation Seashell iirc )
3. USA lost its buttress to Communist threat to the Persian Gulf region.
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Nevertheless, in the process of your misguided argument, you have demonstrated yet one more set of that humanity that you so love that was oppressed by Communism; namely, the Iranian AND Iraqi people -- what's that, about 120 million all told?
Had Franklin Roosevelt followed Herbert Hoover's informed and earnest advice and stayed out of the way and let Hitler and Stalin duke it out, "a century of peace would have ensued." (see Freedom Betrayed, by Herbert Hoover).
27 million Russians would not have died.
12 million Germans would not have died.
8 million Poles would not have died.
~5 million Iranians would not have died.
~4 million Iraqis would not have died
~ 1 million Palestinians would not have died
500 000 American soldiers would not have died
475,000 Italians would not have died
~195,000 Jews would not have died
All because Franklin Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau, Jr. allied with a genocidal Communist when much of the rest of the world though that regime should be destroyed, and spent the next 50 years trying to destroy it.
Israel has never been an asset to USA, not in defense against Communism or anything else --hell, Jews were major originators of Communism, major participants in Communism. Israel has always been a net taker in the US-Israel special relationship.
“Why did FDR and Morgenthau go behind the backs of US State Department (and also Congress) to send money and weapons to a communist regime that was perpetrating genocide?”
The lesser of two evils, a philosophy embraced by individuals, groups, and nations since the beginning of time.
Nations have interests, not allies. If it suits their interests at a particular moment in time, regardless of ideological differences, a nation will assist overtly or covertly their sworn enemy.
As far as I know, the Americans providing arms and material to the Soviets for their fight against Nazi Germany via lend-lease, which was under the purview of Congress. Unless you have information regarding cash and guns received by the Soviets prior to this official policy.
“I could be gallant and assume you merely reversed the sellers and buyers of weapons, but I choose not to.”
You’re right, you’re not gallant amid my mistake.
“This was not about Israel functioning to assist US in fighting Communism…”
Correct, Israel served as the go-between in a deal that enabled the U.S. to combat communism in Central America despite a Congressional ban. Israel was used as a means to an end.
“you have demonstrated yet one more set of that humanity that you so love that was oppressed by Communism; namely, the Iranian AND Iraqi people”
As has the millions murdered in the name of Christianity, in the name of the United States, in the name of European superiority, in the name of African tribal warfare, in the name of Chinese dominance, etc. Humanity has no bounds in its inhumanity.
“Had Franklin Roosevelt followed Herbert Hoover’s informed and earnest advice and stayed out of the way and let Hitler and Stalin duke it out, “a century of peace would have ensued.”
Given the complexity and nuances of geo-politics and human nature, COULD, not would.
“All because Franklin Roosevelt and Henry Morgenthau, Jr. allied with a genocidal Communist when much of the rest of the world though that regime should be destroyed”
The United States, and Great Britain, and France, and Canada, and Australia, and a host of other nations on the Allied Side, in the name of humanity. Except out of humanity arise inhumane courses of action.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323059
He reads that 500,000 Papuan civilians have been killed in an occupation and genocide by Indonesia and he only cares to ask about speeches and standing ovations !!!!
Why can't the alt right / white nationalist movement get any good press ???
Frankly I think they are obssessed too much about Jews, Blacks, and Muslims.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323062
“Yes, the White Lobby’s to be feared. The Anglo-Saxon Lobby is a real monster. Want to know their positions?”
The same positions you hold about anyone who is opposed to your tribe.
“And it’s manifestly false; there’s literally no one here who blames EVERY political, economic, and social problem on Jews.”
Communism = Joo origination –> Political and economic
Cultural Marxism = Joo origination –> Social
Western governments puppets of Joos –> Political
Jooish banksters –> Political, economic, social
From these four foundational categories, Joos are to blame for everything, big and small, macro and micro.
Praytell, what problems are Joos NOT associated with, Svigor?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323066
How do you prove “exponentially more devastating”?
What legal standard are you able to currently employ under the freedom of the press?
Would Congress even enact such legislation and would the Supreme Court be able to craft a decision justifying it?
How is one able to legislate lying in light of freedom of speech/the press? How do you determine their intent from a legal point of view?
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Israel played by too civilized rules of engagement. You know they could have wasted your Muslim idols otherwise. But also notice the Hezbollah chickenshits haven’t really messed with the Izzies since 2006 when they got hurt. I read they have busy lately, engaged in the ages old Muslim Sunni vs Shiite ritual human sacrifices to allah. This time in Syria
My handy dandy Muslim flow chart shows Hezbollah happen to be psychopathic Shiite wackos. So I’m gonna take a wild guess they are fighting on Assad’s side. Ya think?
Here’s the Wikipedia link, followed by an excerpt taken from the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War, along with a link to a Counterpunch article on how Hezbollah defeated Israel.
“According to Human Rights Watch, in the last 72 hours of the war, the Israeli army flooded the region with cluster bombs.[253] Human Rights Watch "found that the IDF's use of cluster munitions was both indiscriminate and disproportionate, in violation of IHL, and in some locations possibly a war crime" because "the vast majority [were dropped] over the final three days when Israel knew a settlement was imminent."[253] After the ceasefire, parts of southern Lebanon remained uninhabitable due to Israeli unexploded cluster bomblets.[258] Also phosphorus shells were used by the IDF to attack civilian areas in Lebanon.[259] The shells were originally designed to generate a smoke screen in a battlefield situation, but white phosphor is also especially harmful to humans because its burning will continue inside the flesh. The shelling was investigated as a violation of international law.[260]”
http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/10/13/how-hezbollah-defeated-israel-2/
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323069
Corvanus...you are welcome to "fraudulate" and "obfuscate" to your hearts content. But the truth is ...Guantanamo Bay is way to good for these fraudulent scum. Perhaps you should be remaindered there, too....to think about it for a couple dozen years.Then you might learn a proper lesson in the distinction between "defrauding " and "reporting".How else will you, and those you are so anxious to defend,learn,never,to do it again ?
“Initiating a war of aggression is universally recognized as the SUPREME international crime.”
Not if a country is the winner.
“Defrauding the American people into committing a supreme international crime should not only be considered a criminal act.”
Find a lawyer and sue.
“Perhaps you should be remaindered there, too….to think about it for a couple dozen years.”
And now, ladies, we have reached critical mass. Enter fascism, which is fundamentally anti-humanity. I merely question how and why an opinion can be instantly declared “a lie” to the point that the person uttering that opinion is immediately incarcerated.
“its on the issue of TERRORISM against the United States of America and its entire citizenry.”
So, besides responding to a blog post, what are doing about it? As in, are you openly part of a grass roots movement, with signage in tow, ready to make the five o’clock news through your tribe’s own public protest?
Aha! You ARE a Jew!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323074
As far as Papuans , they are denied a voice . Indonesia has made Occupied Papua a closed military zone . Indonesia has killed 20X as many Papuans than Israel has killed Palestinians . Indonesia has killed 500,000 Papuans without a whisper from world media . Meanwhile every Palestinian death makes headlines . Would you silently accept this from Israel ?? Do you think Occupied Papua gets enough media attention ??
Just to reiterate: “…neither Chinese nor Papuans have put their grievances in kind of “never-again” monuments around the US and Europe and neither of them demands a special treatment for their special sufferings, all while attacking the freedom of speech and academic freedoms. Time to step down from your wooden white horse of “moral superiority.”
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323075
He reads that 500,000 Papuan civilians have been killed in an occupation and genocide by Indonesia and he only cares to ask about speeches and standing ovations !!!!
Why can't the alt right / white nationalist movement get any good press ???
Doubtless if Israel was an ordinary, self-sufficient country, people wouldn’t care much about how it treats its Arab subjects. But that of course is the point: it’s NOT an ordinary country and its actions, which stand in startling contrast to how US propaganda and media organs portray Israel, are rather intolerable. The US is responsible for Israeli mistreatment of Arabs (including various wars of aggression) in a way that it’s not responsible for Indonesian atrocities. Nice try at changing the subject, though.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323115
really ?
what a terrifying international conspiracy !
roflmao !
well u aint seen nuthin yet kids,
EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS A CIA SAFE HOUSE,
AKA THE MURKKAN EMBASSY !
hehehehe
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323124
He reads that 500,000 Papuan civilians have been killed in an occupation and genocide by Indonesia and he only cares to ask about speeches and standing ovations !!!!
Why can't the alt right / white nationalist movement get any good press ???
LOL, that’s rich coming from a ziotroll who has no compunction about all the death and destruction caused by the Zionist/Israel firsters’ decision to launch a war against Islam. Even the dumb goy have come to realize the real objective of the GWOT is to remake the ME by regime changing those regimes deemed hostile to the Zionist project, all in an effort to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle. If over a million Arabs – in Lebanon, Iraq, Libya, and Syria – have to be slaughtered in the process, so be it.
So spare us your crocodile tears over 500,000 Papuan civilians. You seem to forget how then Ambassador to UN Madeleine Albright (born Marie Jana Korbelová) responded when CBS correspondent Leslie Stahl asked her “We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?” and Albright replied “we think the price is worth it.” How’s that for genuine Zionist compassion and caring?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323130
Yes, Carroll Price, in many “free” European countries, those who doubt the official holohoax lies are often subjected to fines and prison terms.
So much for free speech and “democracy” in Europe…
But your 1st Amendment is largely an illusion too.
In the US, aka, ZUSA inc., the powers that be use soft power to gag people and it works wonders.
Talk about the holohoax in zamerica and you’ll be out of a job the next day…not to mention the Character assassination. If u doubt it, ask Fred Leuchter.
ps: there r a bunch of other subjects – besides the big h(most sacred cow of all) in zamerica which would land ‘free’ zamerican citizens in hot waters despite the first. just saying.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323134
So spare us your crocodile tears over 500,000 Papuan civilians. You seem to forget how then Ambassador to UN Madeleine Albright (born Marie Jana Korbelová) responded when CBS correspondent Leslie Stahl asked her "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" and Albright replied "we think the price is worth it." How's that for genuine Zionist compassion and caring?
you still haven’t answered why you do not care about 500,000 papuan civilians killed by an islamist indonesian government , that is bent on genocide .
he overthrew Sukorno
Who benefited from the regime change?
US Corporations and Chinese Business class . Israel had diplomatic relation murderous anti Islamic regime .
Chinese Christians were against the independence movement from Dutch colonization. In Holland , one could see some Indonesia diaspora and they are all Christian .
Islam claimed the country back after Suharto was deposed .
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323148
Not if a country is the winner.
"Defrauding the American people into committing a supreme international crime should not only be considered a criminal act."
Find a lawyer and sue.
"Perhaps you should be remaindered there, too….to think about it for a couple dozen years."
And now, ladies, we have reached critical mass. Enter fascism, which is fundamentally anti-humanity. I merely question how and why an opinion can be instantly declared "a lie" to the point that the person uttering that opinion is immediately incarcerated.
"its on the issue of TERRORISM against the United States of America and its entire citizenry."
So, besides responding to a blog post, what are doing about it? As in, are you openly part of a grass roots movement, with signage in tow, ready to make the five o'clock news through your tribe's own public protest?
“Find a lawyer and sue.”
Aha! You ARE a Jew!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323156
@The Israeli Foreign Ministry has a corps of paid “volunteers” who monitor websites worldwide and take remedial action and there is a similar group working out of the Prime Minister’s office
This is called Hasbara. The exceedingly great number of “commentaries” for this post shows how active the hasbaratchicks are. Nothing infuriates them more than the “canard” of “Israel’s International Conspiracy” (perhaps only the “Jewish conspiracy”)!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323169
Hastert and Graham were so funny… Graham in particular reminds me of the ‘Dill Sheppard’ character in ‘American Dad’ (not that there’s anything wrong with that – seriously, if all the closeted gay men in the world just embraced their gayness, the world would have a bunch less neocons pretending to be macho).
And Hastert the ‘wrasslin coach’ – as if there could ever be anything remotely suss about a grown-ass man who likes to hang around sweaty teenage men grappling one another… (here’s lookin’ at you, Rumsfeld…)
Closeted-gay folks aside, there is a pattern. These men (and people like Jim Bakker, Swaggart, Haggard, and the rest of them – [ahem]Boehner???[ahem]) all had something that could be used against them if they so much as hinted that they were thinking of going off the reservation.
Pity for at least 2 of them, that they weren’t brought down by threatening to go off the reservation: their downfall was far more mundane… they say “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”, but a scorned gay lover sure comes close.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323170
Is it just me or have others noticed that the MFA has furnished their ziotrolls with updated talking points in the hope they can more successfully engage their opponents? I believe the new approach is based on the principle of getting your opponent to chase their tail by asking the same questions over and over again. I suggest we answer their questions once and ignore their inevitable follow-ups.
As I stated before, no matter how often they update their talking points, they will still fail, as they have the unenviable task of defending the indefensible… there’s simply no getting around this. So just as Wile E Coyote, they should request a refund from Acme Inc.
"I suggest we answer their questions once and ignore their inevitable follow-ups."
Yes, answer the questions, indeed.
How is one able to legislate lying in light of freedom of speech/the press?
How do you determine their intent from a legal point of view?
How do you prove “exponentially more devastating”?
What legal standard are you able to currently employ under the freedom of the press?
Would Congress even enact such legislation and would the Supreme Court be able to craft a decision justifying it?
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http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323301
Marwan is making you look stupid. Well sort of, it is actually your stupidity that is making us immigration restrictionists look stupid. Please stop. There might be too many holocaust memorials but the fact remains that 1 Palestinian is grieved at the rate of 50 Papuans, and that is only a function of our weird obsession with the ethnicity of those who kill them.
We are currently the most pathetic peoples on earth. We give away our countries while obsessing over Jews. We have cuckservatised ourselves entirely. Even put victimhood we cuck out to foreign peoples.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323305
It is somewhat ironic that you refer to “birds of a feather” occupying forces in your defence of Israel and AIPAC. You conveniently ignore the fact that neither the Turkish nor the Chinese nor the other “occupying” forces you refer tot7 engage in the diabolically evil treatment of citizens of their host country, unlike Israel. However, AIPAC and it’s counterparts in other Western nation states will probably be horrified to see you accept Israel as an occupying force. Perhaps you will now be treated to the same venomous and wholly malevolent personal attacks to discredit you in the same manner other victims of such bully boy tactics are subjected to as mentioned in the article.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323343
Sure they did. By shelling Lebanon with white phosphorus after losing the war, and sowing south Lebanon with millions of cluster bombs (both being internationally recognized war crimes) sent on an emergency basis by Hillary Clinton.
Here’s the Wikipedia link, followed by an excerpt taken from the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War, along with a link to a Counterpunch article on how Hezbollah defeated Israel.
“According to Human Rights Watch, in the last 72 hours of the war, the Israeli army flooded the region with cluster bombs.[253] Human Rights Watch “found that the IDF’s use of cluster munitions was both indiscriminate and disproportionate, in violation of IHL, and in some locations possibly a war crime” because “the vast majority [were dropped] over the final three days when Israel knew a settlement was imminent.”[253] After the ceasefire, parts of southern Lebanon remained uninhabitable due to Israeli unexploded cluster bomblets.[258] Also phosphorus shells were used by the IDF to attack civilian areas in Lebanon.[259] The shells were originally designed to generate a smoke screen in a battlefield situation, but white phosphor is also especially harmful to humans because its burning will continue inside the flesh. The shelling was investigated as a violation of international law.[260]”
http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/10/13/how-hezbollah-defeated-israel-2/
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323349
As I stated before, no matter how often they update their talking points, they will still fail, as they have the unenviable task of defending the indefensible... there's simply no getting around this. So just as Wile E Coyote, they should request a refund from Acme Inc.
Agreed. In the long run, truth always emerges as the victor over self-serving propaganda and out-right lies. Which, among many others, explains why the Jewish version of 9/11 and the holocau$t are now recognized by the entire world as financial swindles of gigantic proportions. With Zionist Jews being directly responsible for both.
So, unlike hundreds of millions people who have been duped by Joos of epic proportions, how do you and your tribe undeniably comprehend the truth in comparison?
Are you and everyone else of your kind unique in your outlook, with off the charts high IQ's and power at your fingers?
What are you and your tribe actively doing outside of writing on blogs to expose to the general public the degenerative nature of Joos?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323358
Someone is unclear on the question of national interests. Actually I suspect you are clear, hence the attempt at subject-changing.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323380
As I stated before, no matter how often they update their talking points, they will still fail, as they have the unenviable task of defending the indefensible... there's simply no getting around this. So just as Wile E Coyote, they should request a refund from Acme Inc.
Is it just me or have others noticed that the anti-Joo everything crowd has their ducks in a row with their recycled comments, with the unfortunate result of hopelessly spinning their wheels?
“I suggest we answer their questions once and ignore their inevitable follow-ups.”
Yes, answer the questions, indeed.
How is one able to legislate lying in light of freedom of speech/the press?
How do you determine their intent from a legal point of view?
How do you prove “exponentially more devastating”?
What legal standard are you able to currently employ under the freedom of the press?
Would Congress even enact such legislation and would the Supreme Court be able to craft a decision justifying it?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323410
“Which, among many others, explains why the Jewish version of 9/11 and the holocau$t are now recognized by the entire world as financial swindles of gigantic proportions.”
So, unlike hundreds of millions people who have been duped by Joos of epic proportions, how do you and your tribe undeniably comprehend the truth in comparison?
Are you and everyone else of your kind unique in your outlook, with off the charts high IQ’s and power at your fingers?
What are you and your tribe actively doing outside of writing on blogs to expose to the general public the degenerative nature of Joos?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323415
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http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323417
Orban successful, Putin successful, Trump successful, Marine Le Pen successful. Hapless internet jew obsessives utterly unsuccessful.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323434
Here’s the Wikipedia link, followed by an excerpt taken from the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War, along with a link to a Counterpunch article on how Hezbollah defeated Israel.
“According to Human Rights Watch, in the last 72 hours of the war, the Israeli army flooded the region with cluster bombs.[253] Human Rights Watch "found that the IDF's use of cluster munitions was both indiscriminate and disproportionate, in violation of IHL, and in some locations possibly a war crime" because "the vast majority [were dropped] over the final three days when Israel knew a settlement was imminent."[253] After the ceasefire, parts of southern Lebanon remained uninhabitable due to Israeli unexploded cluster bomblets.[258] Also phosphorus shells were used by the IDF to attack civilian areas in Lebanon.[259] The shells were originally designed to generate a smoke screen in a battlefield situation, but white phosphor is also especially harmful to humans because its burning will continue inside the flesh. The shelling was investigated as a violation of international law.[260]”
http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/10/13/how-hezbollah-defeated-israel-2/
I am only going to waste my time on your lies about white phosphorous use
You are a sicko. 85% of what you post at Unz is anti-Jewish material. Zionists and hasbara agents live rent free in your brain.
Hey Clyde, - get used to it.
What is going to happen when one percent get on to your Jew worldwide coercion - then ten percent - then a majority - think about it.
Karma baby!
Art
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323442
Thank you Helena.
Beautiful sanctuary.
Quicksand: America's Pursuit of Power in the Middle East ?
"....Wawro tackles the formidable challenge of writing a comprehensive history of American involvement in the Middle East. In many ways an attempt to explain the historical genesis of the bind in which the U.S. currently finds itself, the author’s main narrative threads are the U.S.’ complicated and often conflicting relationships with Israel and Saudi Arabia. All else, he suggests, including the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and perennial tensions with Iran, is to some extent a collateral consequence of these Israeli and Saudi allegiances. ." --Brendan Driscoll
Here's the link again, National Summit to Reassess the U.S.-Israel "Special Relationship" --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yvyoxlYvAg
Geoffrey Wawro- Key findings from the book "Quicksand"
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323461
Here is the name of an article (above) that this discussion is about: “Israel’s International Conspiracy.” Do you have anything to add on the topic of the article, namely on the Israel’s international conspiracy affecting poorly the western world and affection tragically the Middle East?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323490
So, unlike hundreds of millions people who have been duped by Joos of epic proportions, how do you and your tribe undeniably comprehend the truth in comparison?
Are you and everyone else of your kind unique in your outlook, with off the charts high IQ's and power at your fingers?
What are you and your tribe actively doing outside of writing on blogs to expose to the general public the degenerative nature of Joos?
Nothing that you and your vile ilk need to know about.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323494
And you believe that by insulting others and by using detours away from the main topic you are able to demonstrate your superiority? It is also curious that your handle sounds very similar to “Beiteinu.”
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323502
Not the internet. Fail.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323624
You keep commenting and repeating about the same things long after the initial exchange is over with . Look you have no argument to counter my facts . Other posters , even alt right posters have already told you that you got completely owned by me . Just give up . You are embarrassing yourself further with every post .
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323627
It`s all very well to blame that a case (in France) did not receive the same treatment because the person involved was Muslim but the problem is that in today`s world this is not going to garner sympathy from many.
And that`s perhaps the main problem of the anti-Israel front. They are compelled, one way or another, to adjoin it with a defense campaign for Muslims and it is at this point where most people close their mind.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323653
1 . You think blacks are incapable of taking responsibility for their situation , but you blame all of your problems ,in fact all of the WORLDS problems , on JEWS !!
2. You want a White homeland but are jealous of jews for having a jewish homeland !!!
3. You think the holocaust never happened , but simultaneously with hitler " finished the job " .
4. You think jews control all the multibillion dollar media outlets , but think jews they can't control 2 bit conspiracy websites !!!!!
5. You have pleasured yourself multiple times to the infamous barbara specter youtube video !!!
6. You normally hate muslims , refer to them as muds , refer to them as violent ,disdain their low IQ , disdain their K selection or whatever letter selection you call it where the group has more kids and pisses you off because whites are too lazy to have sex and procreate , however if they are fighting or killing jews , then you love them !!!!!!!
7. You want to kick out all non whites from " white countries " . Still mad whites got kicked out of rhodesia !!!!!!!
8. You think 1 palestinian killed constitutes genocide . brushes aside true genocide like 2 million killed by the Islamic republic of Sudan
9. You think Putin is the savior of the white race and potential destroyer of Israel . You ignore Putins jewish roots and the fact that almost all of his advisors are jews and since he entered the syrian conflict Israel has assassinated top hezbollah and Iranian assets like samir Kuntar with precision missile strikes that went right into his bedroom window !!!!! and strikes on buildings adjacent to the damascus airport !!!!!! Ya think they might be getting russian intel ??????????
You might be a Jew if:
1 You vote like you’re black (Jews go 75-85% Dem; blacks go 85-95% Dem)
2 You whine and finger-point at the white goyim as much as the blacks do
3 You think your kind are owed access to all white territories, while your kind are as safely and exclusively ensconced away from whites in Israel as blacks are in Liberia
4 Like blacks, you think Jews having a homeland in Israel is great, and blacks having a homeland in Liberia is great, but whites even thinking about having a homeland anywhere is ANTI-SEMITISM!!! and RRRRACISM!!!
5 You blame everything on whites, the “cancer of history,” just like blacks do
6 You tend to wildly exaggerate what your group has contributed to the world, while downplaying or ignoring what whites have done for your group, the way blacks do
7 You love black/Jewish produced degenerate media
8 You’re always whining about your Holocaust, the way blacks are always whining about their Slavery; you use your “big excuse” to justify everything
9 You’re always on the make for more Holocaust reparations, the way blacks are always on the make for more Slavery reparations
10 You’re always on the make for ways to make money via litigation
11 You’re as hard-headed, intractable, and lacking in ethnic introspection as Jews are
12 Yo people dindunuffin
13 You’re always sniffing for famous people with Jewish blood, the way blacks are always sniffing for famous people with black blood
14 You enjoy selling steeply marked-up cadillacs and stereo equipment to blacks almost as much as blacks enjoy buying them
15 You like crappy chinese takeout as much as blacks do
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323684
Almost forgot:
16 Your cultural identity is centered around a lachrymose reading of history (Holocaust, progroms, eternal anti-Semitism, dindunuffins, bla bla bla) the way black identity is (Slavery, middle passage, racism, Jim Crow, dindunuffins, bla bla bla)
17 It’s never enough, just like with blacks
18 You whitewash your own history to an absurd, revelatory extent (Jewish slavers? Huh?) the way blacks do (Black slavers? Huh?)
19 You think pointing at someone else’s misdeeds (Israel is innocent because Sudan!) gets you off the hook, the way blacks do (Black crime isn’t black crime because poverty/racism/kitchen sink!)
20 You think your humor is funnier than it is, just like blacks do.
***
P.S., “Who mows your nose hair?”
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323693
My mistake, that should obviously be:
21 Your group never stops congratulating itself, just like blacks
22 Your group goes nuts at the prospect of others treating your group the way your group treats others, just like blacks
23 Big chip on shoulder, like blacks
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323697
I always forget this one:
24 You need whites a lot more than whites need you, just like blacks
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323720
I was requested to offer proof regarding discussion of Israel and their Jericho missile program.
"yet you claim, to NOT be a Jew – Hmm?????"
Anyone who talks about Joos, and fails to denounce them on a thread full of anti-Joos, must be a Joo. Sir, that is illogical (Spock brow).
"My plan is to post the truth about Jew tribalness, Jew nukes, and the evil that is Israel."
Your version of the truth, yes. Similar to my version to expose the hypocrisy of your tribe, your nukes, and the evil that is your tribe, whatever group you belong to.
Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.
Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.
Corvinus — you are a joke — Israel is the most pro-race anti-humanity country on the Earth – PERIOD.
One should never ever trust then words of a Jew talking tribe — Art
A mere opinion.
Again, what are YOU prepared to do about their dominance? Are you that intellectually and physically sterile compared to their alleged brilliance to make your own mark rather than complain over and over that Joos are to blame for everything?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323721
You are a sicko. 85% of what you post at Unz is anti-Jewish material. Zionists and hasbara agents live rent free in your brain.
Hey Clyde, – get used to it.
What is going to happen when one percent get on to your Jew worldwide coercion – then ten percent – then a majority – think about it.
Karma baby!
Art
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323735
You mean I did not pay proper attention to your compatriot and sister-in-hasbara? Come on. This is Unz Review; you may hate it viscerally (along with hating the allegedly anti-semitic commenters posting here), but this site is for thinking adults, however much this might upset you. One more time: The name of the above article that is under discussion on this comment site, is “Israel’s International Conspiracy.” Do you have anything substantial to add on the topic of the article?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323744
Whore’s Anus seems very fond of his stupid “pro-race = anti-humanity” schtick. It’s a 100% inversion of the truth, of course. Humans are organisms. All organisms evolve. They do so through speciation, which is another word for “race.” All humans have a race (or a mix of races), all humans tend to be ethnocentric to one degree or another. Whore’s Anus and the other leftist nutcases think working as hard as they can against human nature is the winning strategy.
Because they couldn’t give a shit less about humanity. They are the opposite of humanitarians. Humanitarians look at the reality of human nature and devise organizing principles and strategies that harmonize with that reality, that work with human nature. Anti-humanitarians like Whore’s Anus look at human nature and see an obstacle to be smashed and twisted, in pursuit of their real goals.
Humanity is divided into races. That’s not good enough for Whore’s Anus & co. They want to destroy diversity and force us all into one big, brownish, boring mass of greyness.
It’s like parents and children. Parents who love their children will try to help them pursue lives that are suited to their temperaments and abilities. Parents who care less about their children than they do their own agenda will try to force their children into fulfilling the parents’ desires.
This is all spectacularly obvious.
Um, no. There is only one race, the human race, with different ethnicities due to adaption of some members of the species to their particular environment.
Speciation is the process by which new species arise due to geographical isolation, as happened when Pangea separated, isolating various species that later became different species (lama and camel), or reproductive isolation, when differences in reproductive processes isolate two groups that later become different species. That said, if humans were isolated populations all around the earth, most likely, allopatric speciation would occur.
However, since we occupy the entire earth, it is highly unlikely. Moreover, the races are not diverging into different species. All humans have the exact same DNA strands, although the sequence of them can change, usually very slightly.
“all humans tend to be ethnocentric to one degree or another.”
You said it, to a matter of degree.
“Humanitarians look at the reality of human nature and devise organizing principles and strategies that harmonize with that reality, that work with human nature”.
You predicate your position on your own version of what constitutes human nature by assuming certain races are best suited or ill-suited to specific temperaments and abilities.
"All organisms evolve."
Indeed, and Americans have generally evolved into a group of people who prefer to mix and mingle. For those Americans who desire to remain "pure", they have the liberty to marry and sire offspring within their own race or ethnic group.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323786
Parents who love their children:
“Honey, we’ve looked for the best schools for you. Here’s the info. There’s a military school, a religious school, a secular school…they’re all best in class. And feel free to look on the web for other schools. We want you to take our advice to heart, because we’re older and wiser and want what’s best for you, but ultimately your path through life is your own, so go with the one that appeals to you the most.”
Parents with an agenda:
“You’re going to business school, and you’ll take over the family business. Having more choices is bad for your interests.”
Humanitarians:
“I think offering alternatives like ethno-states (inter alia) alongside the other types of states, like diverse kumbayah liberal democracies, is the way to go. More choice is better.”
Anti-Humanitarians:
“If you’re white, you’ll take diverse kumbayah liberal democracies and like it. Less choice is better.”
Humanitarians:
“If whites, blacks, browns, yellows, Jews, mixed-race folks, diverse kumbaya wanna-mix people, or anyone else, want their own neighborhoods, communities, businesses, customer bases, institutions, or countries, that’s fine. Let them.”
Anti-Humanitarians:
“The Jews get an ethno-state, non-whites get de facto ethnostates, and whites get diverse kumbayah wanna-mix states. Period, end of discussion.”
Which group sounds better? Which seems more genuinely interested in human happiness?
Due to the Southrons inability to adhere to the principles in Plessy--separate but equal facilities), American citizens, under the social contract and in the public welfare, as a majority enacted legislation to ensure that political and social liberties are guaranteed. Despite these laws, whites today are able to move into white neighborhoods and live alongside whites exclusively. Moreover, European ethnic groups when they arrived to America intermingled and intermarried, behavior considered taboo in the old country. As a result, a new ethnic group arose--Americans, who have chosen over the long-term to "mix" people. Again, those people who choose to live and work among a certain group of people have their option.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323799
Corvinus --- you are a joke --- Israel is the most pro-race anti-humanity country on the Earth - PERIOD.
One should never ever trust then words of a Jew talking tribe -- Art
“Israel is the most pro-race anti-humanity country on the Earth – PERIOD.”
A mere opinion.
Again, what are YOU prepared to do about their dominance? Are you that intellectually and physically sterile compared to their alleged brilliance to make your own mark rather than complain over and over that Joos are to blame for everything?
Alt right / white nationalists cannot even be bothered to have sex with one another and procreate , much less lead a movement in real life .They exist online only . Thats why you have never heard such talk as this in real life .
The alt right / white nationalist movement has crowned Donald Trump , a zionist with 2 jewish children as the savior of their race . Enough said .
Are you trying to goat me into saying I want to do physical harm to Jews?
I do not - I am a idealistic Christian - I believe that life is sacred - even Jew life.
Again, Jesus said that "the truth will set you free." The truth of Jew world coercion will defeat abhorrent Zionism.
Art
p.s. The problem for you Jews is that not all of the world is a idealistic Christian like me.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323818
“The Jews get an ethno-state, non-whites get de facto ethnostates, and whites get diverse kumbayah wanna-mix states. Period, end of discussion.”
Due to the Southrons inability to adhere to the principles in Plessy–separate but equal facilities), American citizens, under the social contract and in the public welfare, as a majority enacted legislation to ensure that political and social liberties are guaranteed. Despite these laws, whites today are able to move into white neighborhoods and live alongside whites exclusively. Moreover, European ethnic groups when they arrived to America intermingled and intermarried, behavior considered taboo in the old country. As a result, a new ethnic group arose–Americans, who have chosen over the long-term to “mix” people. Again, those people who choose to live and work among a certain group of people have their option.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323838
A mere opinion.
Again, what are YOU prepared to do about their dominance? Are you that intellectually and physically sterile compared to their alleged brilliance to make your own mark rather than complain over and over that Joos are to blame for everything?
He is prepared to post about it in comment sections and nothing more . The comment section is the natural habitat of the alt right/ white nationalist . .
Alt right / white nationalists cannot even be bothered to have sex with one another and procreate , much less lead a movement in real life .They exist online only . Thats why you have never heard such talk as this in real life .
The alt right / white nationalist movement has crowned Donald Trump , a zionist with 2 jewish children as the savior of their race . Enough said .
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323841
“They do so through speciation, which is another word for “race.”
Um, no. There is only one race, the human race, with different ethnicities due to adaption of some members of the species to their particular environment.
Speciation is the process by which new species arise due to geographical isolation, as happened when Pangea separated, isolating various species that later became different species (lama and camel), or reproductive isolation, when differences in reproductive processes isolate two groups that later become different species. That said, if humans were isolated populations all around the earth, most likely, allopatric speciation would occur.
However, since we occupy the entire earth, it is highly unlikely. Moreover, the races are not diverging into different species. All humans have the exact same DNA strands, although the sequence of them can change, usually very slightly.
“all humans tend to be ethnocentric to one degree or another.”
You said it, to a matter of degree.
“Humanitarians look at the reality of human nature and devise organizing principles and strategies that harmonize with that reality, that work with human nature”.
You predicate your position on your own version of what constitutes human nature by assuming certain races are best suited or ill-suited to specific temperaments and abilities.
“All organisms evolve.”
Indeed, and Americans have generally evolved into a group of people who prefer to mix and mingle. For those Americans who desire to remain “pure”, they have the liberty to marry and sire offspring within their own race or ethnic group.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323842
A mere opinion.
Again, what are YOU prepared to do about their dominance? Are you that intellectually and physically sterile compared to their alleged brilliance to make your own mark rather than complain over and over that Joos are to blame for everything?
So Corvinus,
Are you trying to goat me into saying I want to do physical harm to Jews?
I do not – I am a idealistic Christian – I believe that life is sacred – even Jew life.
Again, Jesus said that “the truth will set you free.” The truth of Jew world coercion will defeat abhorrent Zionism.
Art
p.s. The problem for you Jews is that not all of the world is a idealistic Christian like me.
Matthew 15:24 !!!!!!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323860
Are you trying to goat me into saying I want to do physical harm to Jews?
I do not - I am a idealistic Christian - I believe that life is sacred - even Jew life.
Again, Jesus said that "the truth will set you free." The truth of Jew world coercion will defeat abhorrent Zionism.
Art
p.s. The problem for you Jews is that not all of the world is a idealistic Christian like me.
Goad , not Goat . Goad means to provoke someone into doing something . For the definition of Goat , just have a gander in the mirror !!!!!
Matthew 15:24 !!!!!!
p.s. I like goats - they always try to get on the highest point possible.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323891
You left out:
“Kids, man does not rule this world by his whims or beliefs. God/nature (interchangeable to some, not to others) does and man is against Him/it and riding for a fall. No one knows how it will all shake out, but I will tell you a couple of things:
1. Your chances of finding enemies in this world is high, you need to be aware of who they are when they come, but there is no need of trying to make more than life will give you.
2. You need friends, but “friends” can be treacherous. No matter what battles you fight you will find some on your side that you really wish/think were/are on the other.
The shit is about to hit the fan, there will be no winners, just survivors. Keep your eyes open, your head down, your mouth shut, and your hands clean.”
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323902
The usual anti-humanitarian, statist squid ink, how original:
“Gov’t-enforced segregation didn’t work, so gov’t-enforced ‘integration” is the only alternative. Oh, by the way, this anti-liberty, this gov’t oppression, should be considered ‘political and social liberty.’”
Lie.
Lol. Non-whites hate the fact that Europe is diverse, and long has been, so they ignore it.
You talk like Rain Man. I say something relevant, you talk about irrelevant bullshit.
Too dumb to know that subspecies=race=group in the process of speciation. Too dumb to understand that all species began as subspecies, AKA races.
You tacitly agreed with it: you want to work against human nature, and are thus an anti-humanitarian.
You don’t even bother to deny it.
You assume they don’t, and deny humanity the panoply of choices I offer them. Because you’re anti-humanitarian.
Which you don’t deny.
“The usual anti-humanitarian, statist squid ink, how original.”
Original and factual. See, the American people collectively decided to ensure political equality for all of its citizens. That is how a representative democracy is designed to work.
Me—“Despite these laws, whites today are able to move into white neighborhoods and live alongside whites exclusively.”
You—“Lie.” Are you denying what is observably true, that there are areas in the United States that are exclusively white?
“I say something relevant, you talk about irrelevant bullshit.”
You’re going to have to step up your game by explaining what my statement is exactly irrelevant.
“Too dumb to know that subspecies=race=group in the process of speciation.”
Depends very much on who you are asking. Some geneticists say yes, other say no. Pick either stance and you'll find literature to defend it/
Subspecies is defined by a difference in phenotype (appearance/biological differences), not the amount of percentage difference in DNA (genotype)- so the CLASSICAL definition of subspecies/race would apply to humans IF it were used the same way as it were used on other species.
“you want to work against human nature, and are thus an anti-humanitarian.”
Assuming what you philosophize about IS human nature.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323951
Me: “Freedom.”
Whore’s Anus: “Oppression.”
It’s very simple.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1323957
Whore's Anus: "Oppression."
It's very simple.
Seems the good guys have succeeded in getting under your skin today Mr. Alt right/White nationalist !!!!!! You have become completely unhinged . Maybe dropping by Stormfront or VNN will be helpful in dropping your blood pressure !!!!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1324006
Wow! That is an incredibly well-written, powerful letter. I’d like to shake Mr. Ofir’s hand for writing it.
Thanks for sharing that, geo.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1324014
Beautiful sanctuary.
Thank you for posting (on another thread) your suggestions. I watched the Wawro presentation again- (saw it 2 years ago) – he really crammed a lot in. Have you read his book,
Quicksand: America’s Pursuit of Power in the Middle East ?
“….Wawro tackles the formidable challenge of writing a comprehensive history of American involvement in the Middle East. In many ways an attempt to explain the historical genesis of the bind in which the U.S. currently finds itself, the author’s main narrative threads are the U.S.’ complicated and often conflicting relationships with Israel and Saudi Arabia. All else, he suggests, including the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and perennial tensions with Iran, is to some extent a collateral consequence of these Israeli and Saudi allegiances. .” –Brendan Driscoll
Here’s the link again, National Summit to Reassess the U.S.-Israel “Special Relationship” –
Geoffrey Wawro- Key findings from the book “Quicksand”
Interesting factoid: Wawro said that "in the 1948 elections Tom Dewey had a stout pro-Israel plank, and Truman felt he could do no less."
Benzion Netanyahu was responsible for that plank: Jews had been reliably Democratic but Dem. candidates were not being sufficiently pliable. Benzion reasoned that Democrats were taking the Jewish vote for granted and moved to put a little pressure on them.
Ever since Benzion Netanyahu's gambit in 1948, both parties have had a pro-Israel plank.
Of course by now the lines are thoroughly blurred; the Republican Jewish Coalition is almost as powerful as whatever instruments the Jewish lobby has in the Democratic party.
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Holy shit.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1324117
Quicksand: America's Pursuit of Power in the Middle East ?
"....Wawro tackles the formidable challenge of writing a comprehensive history of American involvement in the Middle East. In many ways an attempt to explain the historical genesis of the bind in which the U.S. currently finds itself, the author’s main narrative threads are the U.S.’ complicated and often conflicting relationships with Israel and Saudi Arabia. All else, he suggests, including the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and perennial tensions with Iran, is to some extent a collateral consequence of these Israeli and Saudi allegiances. ." --Brendan Driscoll
Here's the link again, National Summit to Reassess the U.S.-Israel "Special Relationship" --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yvyoxlYvAg
Geoffrey Wawro- Key findings from the book "Quicksand"
Thank you for the link
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/181652/seven-americans-continue-view-israel-favorably.aspx?g_source=COUNTRY_ISR&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles
Islamists sit in the Knesset, but any advocacy of Zionism leads to prison or worse in Iran.
Just admit to being an out-and-out Anti-Semite, there are plenty of friends at The Right Stuff who have gotten over the psychological shock.
Couldn’t care less if someone is anti-Semitic or not. The days of that smear destroying discussion and investigation are OVER.
Why is there no name for the Zionist death squads that hate the ‘goyim cattle’, as they call us? Or would it be their favored insult ‘amalek’ or ‘golem’? The perennially persecuted have plenty of hate labels for ‘others’; but God help those who call THEM anything- legit or not.
The Sayanim’s latest venture is none too patriotic, in fact it is dangerous and criminal in any free society and its perps should be sued in a huge class action legal suit to the fullest extent of the law-
OPERATION CANARY MISSION where The Zionist Tribe gang stalks their targets by libeling and defaming the target to their bosses/colleagues so they are blacklisted from employment, or if they are enrolled, contacting their professors to have them removed from class, or contacting their social circle to defame them and libel them for their criticism of Israel. Kind of like a second generation Campus Watch writ large.
They brag on their Canary site about operating from the shadows to implement their Israeli SAYANIM-backed blacklist.
Steps need be taken NOW, to prosecute this stealth mafia or the casualties wont even know what them.
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A good and well-evidenced piece about the strangle-hold the Jewish lobby (which is backed or acquiesced to by almost all Jews) on Western foreign and domestic policy.
It is quite possible to dislike and condemn the actions of Jewry* (as I myself do) and to have no hatred for individual Jews, but quite impossible to avoid a jail sentence in most of Europe if you do so under your own name.
I have met but a tiny handful who are not excessively materialistic,avariciously so in most cases, and who take great joy in screwing the goyim in ant way profitable to them.
WW2 was the most egregious example, but further detail would risk the issue of an European Arrest Warrant.
Jews get a free pass on “hate” speech and allegations of racism both legally and in the socially as Western Libtards are suitably Pavlovian in their reactions to any criticism of the most racist ethnicity in the world.
*
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[…] Controversată este şi relaţia dintre Liviu Dragnea şi Moshe Viaceslav Kantor, unul dintre fondatorii consiliului, dar şi preşedinte al Congresului Evreiesc European, organizaţie care l-a decorat recent pe liderul PSD cu “Busola Ierusalimului”. Implicarea reprezentantului unei organizaţii evreieşti de lobby nu poate fi totuşi surprinzătoare în condiţiile activităţii recunoscute a acestora de promovare a legislaţiei antidiscriminare, care serveşte în unele situaţii şi scopului denigrării criticilor politicii statului israelian (vezi contribuţiile fostului ofiţer CIA Philip Giraldi pe acest subiect). […]
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1324364
Quicksand: America's Pursuit of Power in the Middle East ?
"....Wawro tackles the formidable challenge of writing a comprehensive history of American involvement in the Middle East. In many ways an attempt to explain the historical genesis of the bind in which the U.S. currently finds itself, the author’s main narrative threads are the U.S.’ complicated and often conflicting relationships with Israel and Saudi Arabia. All else, he suggests, including the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and perennial tensions with Iran, is to some extent a collateral consequence of these Israeli and Saudi allegiances. ." --Brendan Driscoll
Here's the link again, National Summit to Reassess the U.S.-Israel "Special Relationship" --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yvyoxlYvAg
Geoffrey Wawro- Key findings from the book "Quicksand"
Thanks for posting the Wawro video. He’s a courageous man, particularly as he is young. I think speakers like Wawro treat the issue of the Israel lobby from an American perspective, as Giraldi is suggesting, rather than the Palestinian, etc.
Interesting factoid: Wawro said that “in the 1948 elections Tom Dewey had a stout pro-Israel plank, and Truman felt he could do no less.”
Benzion Netanyahu was responsible for that plank: Jews had been reliably Democratic but Dem. candidates were not being sufficiently pliable. Benzion reasoned that Democrats were taking the Jewish vote for granted and moved to put a little pressure on them.
Ever since Benzion Netanyahu’s gambit in 1948, both parties have had a pro-Israel plank.
Of course by now the lines are thoroughly blurred; the Republican Jewish Coalition is almost as powerful as whatever instruments the Jewish lobby has in the Democratic party.
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Oh so you are jealous of jews being able to accomplish what white nationalists are too incompetent to accomplish . At least you admit to your jealousy . Kudos to you . Start having kids instead of constantly posting dissertations on the internet . Whites 1.1 kids per couple LMFAO !!!!!!!
"Perhaps more importantly, if you condemn the Chinese, Turkish, Indonesian, or Moroccan occupations and lobbies (they have no Apartheid States to criticize, like Israel does), you aren’t swarmed by hasbarists telling you water’s wet and day is night."
Every Islamic state is a true apartheid state . Israel is not , muslims voting and serving in knessest . Free worship of muslims , mosques etc. Converting from Islam to christianity is a death penalty in Islamic nations , converting from christianity to islam has no punishment. Don't get more apartheid than that !!!!!!!! Homosexuality is punishable by death in islamic countries , but hetorosexuals have no punishment !!!!!! apartheid . Apostasy is punishable by death in islamic countries . ISlam _ = _ apartheid !!!!!!!
Your posts are hilarious and right on. You are embarrassing the j-hate idiots via simple logic. I do the same but not as well. Most of the hitler mini-me here are so awful, so muddle brained, so incompetent at their Israel/Jew hating, that they must be on the likudnik-hasabra payrolls. The legendary hasbarist named Tel-Aviv Steve who has multiple IDs at stormfront and sets their bobble heads spinning. Maybe he got bored with those plodders & jerkoffs and is operating here@Unz.
Yes Clyde -- it is true --- victimhood is the first, last, and only refuge of the Jew.
The Big Jew steals - when its time to pay the piper, the Little Jew BEGS victimhood --- Art
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Blabbing about security while building settlements in occupied territory is like putting your kid in the middle of the street to play. Absurdity. It should also be remembered that the creation of Trans Jordan, 80% of Palestine, left Zionists feeling robbed from the very begining. Israel policy we see today is the result of them swearing to reverse that original betrayal. They just want more land, biblical land prophezised to them. Everything else is a ruse
The Romans would never take these scum bags with them once they decided to destroy ISRAHELL AS JESUS CHRIST TOLD THEM IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN,
MOSSAD WAS THE LAST STAND THAT THE HEBREWS MADE AGAINST THE ROMANS AND THE ROMANS KILLED THEM ALL. THE ONLY ONES THAT ESCAPE WERE THE HEBREWS THAT HAD ALREADY ACCEPTED THE MESSAGE OF SALVATION THAT CHRIST CAME TO SHARE WITH HIS FOLLOWERS, GOD GOT THEM OUT OR ISRAEL IN THE YEAR 50 AD. 20 YEARS PRIOR TO THE DESTRUCTION WHICH IT HAPPEN IN THE YEAR 70 AD.
But those Hebrews that escaped never called themselves JEWS , they were KNOWN AS CHRISTIANS FROM THEN ON BECAUSE WHOM EVER SAW THEM WITH CHRIST AS BELIEVERS BEGAN CALLING THEM CHRISTIANSM BUT NOT EVEN CHRIST TOLD US THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE CALLED CHRISTIANS WE ARE JUST " BELIEVERS OF CHRIST MESSAGE " MEN IS THE ONE THAT HAS MADE TITLES TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS CHRISTIANS OR BAPTIST ETC. THOSE ARE JUST LABLES, MADE BY MEN KIND IN ORDER TO PUT US IN A BOX. BUT WE DO NOT BELONG IN A BOX WE WERE GIVEN THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO "BE FREE LIKE THE WIND". MEN KIND HAS USE LABLES TO ENSLAVE US INTO A BUILDING SP THAT THEY CANBECOME PARASITES TO THE TYS AND TELLING THE BELIEVERS THAT IF THEY LEAVE THE GIVEN CHURCH THEN THEY BECOME REBELS TO GOD'S SPIRIT AND THAT WE NEED TO BE GROWNDED TO THE WHIMS OF A LEADER, DID NOT CHRIST TOLD US THAT WE ALL WERE MINISTRS OF HIM?
ONCE THE JEWS INFILTRATED THE MANY DENOMINATIONS WHICH THEY CREATED TO INDOCTRINATE THE BELIEVERS INTO BECOMEING 2ND CLASS CITIZENS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD BY MAKEING THE SO CALLED JEWS THE " CHOSEN ONES" IF THAT WAS TRUE THEN WHY DID GOD HAVE TO RENEW A COVENANT WITH HUMANITY AND MAKEING THE BELIEVERS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT THE ADOPTED ONES OF GOD WHICH THAT MAKES THE BELIEVER THE CHOSEN ONES ACORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS REVISED BY GOD HIMSELF.
THAT IS WHAT THE WHOLE DECEPTION IS ALL ABOUT THESE CRIMINALS WORSHIP SATAN AND THEIR TALMUD IS THE PROOF OF THEIR RELIGION OF HATE JUST LIKE THE HATE THAT SATAN HAS TOWARDS JESUS CHRIST
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marwan’s obsession with sexually related statements is revealing, given the well-known dominance of the porn industry by Jews.
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"Gov't-enforced segregation didn't work, so gov't-enforced 'integration" is the only alternative. Oh, by the way, this anti-liberty, this gov't oppression, should be considered 'political and social liberty.'"Lie.Lol. Non-whites hate the fact that Europe is diverse, and long has been, so they ignore it.You talk like Rain Man. I say something relevant, you talk about irrelevant bullshit.Too dumb to know that subspecies=race=group in the process of speciation. Too dumb to understand that all species began as subspecies, AKA races.You tacitly agreed with it: you want to work against human nature, and are thus an anti-humanitarian.
You don't even bother to deny it.You assume they don't, and deny humanity the panoply of choices I offer them. Because you're anti-humanitarian.
Which you don't deny.
I prefer the dialectical route, but since you insist on rhetoric…
“The usual anti-humanitarian, statist squid ink, how original.”
Original and factual. See, the American people collectively decided to ensure political equality for all of its citizens. That is how a representative democracy is designed to work.
Me—“Despite these laws, whites today are able to move into white neighborhoods and live alongside whites exclusively.”
You—“Lie.” Are you denying what is observably true, that there are areas in the United States that are exclusively white?
“I say something relevant, you talk about irrelevant bullshit.”
You’re going to have to step up your game by explaining what my statement is exactly irrelevant.
“Too dumb to know that subspecies=race=group in the process of speciation.”
Depends very much on who you are asking. Some geneticists say yes, other say no. Pick either stance and you’ll find literature to defend it/
Subspecies is defined by a difference in phenotype (appearance/biological differences), not the amount of percentage difference in DNA (genotype)- so the CLASSICAL definition of subspecies/race would apply to humans IF it were used the same way as it were used on other species.
“you want to work against human nature, and are thus an anti-humanitarian.”
Assuming what you philosophize about IS human nature.
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Mockery.
Some get past it in the 2nd grade.
For others it is a genetic thing, I guess. A sort of stereotype.
If I recall that had something to do with the temple getting pulverized into oblivion by the Romans.
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Whore’s Anus can’t Judo-flip me by stating:
“I’m more supportive of freedom and human happiness than you, because I support offering humanity a wider set of options in pursuit of happiness and self-determination. My way’s better, because it offers not just the Kumbayah Race-Mixers a way forward, but also the ethnocentrists, and hell, everyone else, too. Aren’t Freedom and Self-Determination wonderful ideas?”
Because he doesn’t believe any of that. For him, it’s his way or the highway.
Now you're just projecting.
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You are embarrassing the j-hate idiots … yada … yada … yada
Yes Clyde — it is true — victimhood is the first, last, and only refuge of the Jew.
The Big Jew steals – when its time to pay the piper, the Little Jew BEGS victimhood — Art
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Matthew 15:24 !!!!!!
Yes – it should be goad – not goat – thank you for the correction.
p.s. I like goats – they always try to get on the highest point possible.
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It’s the 2nd American Revolution and this is how it works…
Judaism is stuck to Zionism,
like Israel is stuck to Apartheid,
like Hillary is stuck to Saban/AIPAC
like Rubio/Cruz/Bush are stuck to Adelson
CHECKMATES: ‘Zionism as practiced by Israelis’, the Apartheid state itself, AIPAC, Hillary, Rubio/Cruz/Bush, etc
Like mountain climbers all roped together crossing a crevasse, they’re ALL GOING DOWN TOGETHER…. ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP!
How does this happen?
The Israel Lobby/Jewish Lobby in the US supportive of Israeli Apartheid is NOT being allowed to seperate (and CANNOT seperate) from the toppling of the Apartheid/Bibi’s government, they are STUCK and stuck tight to the Apartheid
The Israeli Settler State is STUCK to the big Israeli Lobby money (Adelson, even Hillary’s Saban, etc) and it is a civil war within the American Diaspora as those that know the Apartheid is crashing try to desperately cut it away while the Big Zion Money is forcing it’s puppets (Hillary, Cruz, Rubio, etc) to try to hold back the Tsunami
There is an Israeli Civil War as well, the Settler State (the Settler IDF and Hilltop IDF) against the CIS Commanders for Israeli Security and a minority of Israeli ‘leftist’ civilians. This is just under the surface and breaking out as well – the CIS forcing the last elections, though now even Herzog is trying to jump to the right as the coming UN Sec Co Resolution against Israel comes down the pike supported by the US (abstention)
The Three Existential Events – seen as such by Israel itself – which have already occurred or or now successfully occurring:
1- The Iran Nuclear Deal July 14 2016
2- The imminent UN Sec Co Resolution against Israel comes down the pike supported by the US (abstention)
3- The Successfully Advancing ICC Cases against Israel (over Protective Edge Op, and more) – called by the TOP Israeli legal teams Col Liron Libman (PUBLISHED Wikileaks Embassy cables as ‘indefensible’ and ‘existential’
We’re taking down the Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby in the US in the SAME BAG as the collapsing Israeli Apartheid.
The Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby is no longer tenable in the US –
First we make AIPAC register as an agent of a foreign government then make it ILLEGAL as first Rep Jane Harman’s completed crime* see below and Congressional collusion with Bibi’s Putsch against the US (all documented by the NSA) comes out more into the light.
Rep Jane Harman’s ‘completed crime’ (so called by the FBI on record) for her collusion for NSA/FBI wiretapped Haim Saban/Jane Harman’s phone calls in which she agreed to ‘waddle over’ to derail the AIPAC espionage trial of Pres Steve Rosen and VP Kenneth Weissman – Jane has as yet been UNPROSECUTED for this for the FBI is on record as call Jane’s ‘completed crime’. Reported in mainstream media Jeff Stein/Congressional Quarterly etc
Then America passes the 28th Admendment outlawing AIPAC
It’s ONE BIG BAG and we ge them ALL TOGETHER – the Israeli Lobby, AIPAC, Apartheid Israel, and the American Congress involved in Bibi’s Putsch against the US last fall-summer over the Iran Deal (can over the soon coming UN Sec Co Resolution against Israel) – and it INCLUDES HILLARY
It’s the 2nd American Revolution – America free of the Israeli Lobby
KISS -
1- Actions against AIPAC above with still unprosecuted Jane Harman, Steve Rosen, Kenneth Weissman
2- 28 th Admendment abolishing Israeli and ALL OTHER FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS involvement in AIPAC like political corruption/’lobbying’ — with abolishment of AIPAC due to involvement in Rosen/Weissman/Harman espionage and derailing of Federal Trial
3- Shaming – SHAMING — any in the American diaspora/Israeli Lobby still supportive of Apartheid Israel or AIPAC actions against the American gov
you win most disjointed and convoluted post of the year , against stiff competition no less . put your foil hat back on and entertain us with tales of the illuminati and large greys !!!!!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1324941
like Israel is stuck to Apartheid,
like Hillary is stuck to Saban/AIPAC
like Rubio/Cruz/Bush are stuck to AdelsonCHECKMATES: ‘Zionism as practiced by Israelis’, the Apartheid state itself, AIPAC, Hillary, Rubio/Cruz/Bush, etcLike mountain climbers all roped together crossing a crevasse, they're ALL GOING DOWN TOGETHER.... ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP!How does this happen?The Israel Lobby/Jewish Lobby in the US supportive of Israeli Apartheid is NOT being allowed to seperate (and CANNOT seperate) from the toppling of the Apartheid/Bibi's government, they are STUCK and stuck tight to the ApartheidThe Israeli Settler State is STUCK to the big Israeli Lobby money (Adelson, even Hillary's Saban, etc) and it is a civil war within the American Diaspora as those that know the Apartheid is crashing try to desperately cut it away while the Big Zion Money is forcing it's puppets (Hillary, Cruz, Rubio, etc) to try to hold back the TsunamiThere is an Israeli Civil War as well, the Settler State (the Settler IDF and Hilltop IDF) against the CIS Commanders for Israeli Security and a minority of Israeli 'leftist' civilians. This is just under the surface and breaking out as well - the CIS forcing the last elections, though now even Herzog is trying to jump to the right as the coming UN Sec Co Resolution against Israel comes down the pike supported by the US (abstention)The Three Existential Events - seen as such by Israel itself - which have already occurred or or now successfully occurring: 1- The Iran Nuclear Deal July 14 2016
2- The imminent UN Sec Co Resolution against Israel comes down the pike supported by the US (abstention)
3- The Successfully Advancing ICC Cases against Israel (over Protective Edge Op, and more) - called by the TOP Israeli legal teams Col Liron Libman (PUBLISHED Wikileaks Embassy cables as 'indefensible' and 'existential'We're taking down the Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby in the US in the SAME BAG as the collapsing Israeli Apartheid. The Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby is no longer tenable in the US --First we make AIPAC register as an agent of a foreign government then make it ILLEGAL as first Rep Jane Harman's completed crime* see below and Congressional collusion with Bibi's Putsch against the US (all documented by the NSA) comes out more into the light.Rep Jane Harman's 'completed crime' (so called by the FBI on record) for her collusion for NSA/FBI wiretapped Haim Saban/Jane Harman's phone calls in which she agreed to 'waddle over' to derail the AIPAC espionage trial of Pres Steve Rosen and VP Kenneth Weissman - Jane has as yet been UNPROSECUTED for this for the FBI is on record as call Jane's 'completed crime'. Reported in mainstream media Jeff Stein/Congressional Quarterly etcThen America passes the 28th Admendment outlawing AIPACIt's ONE BIG BAG and we ge them ALL TOGETHER - the Israeli Lobby, AIPAC, Apartheid Israel, and the American Congress involved in Bibi's Putsch against the US last fall-summer over the Iran Deal (can over the soon coming UN Sec Co Resolution against Israel) - and it INCLUDES HILLARYIt's the 2nd American Revolution - America free of the Israeli LobbyKISS -
1- Actions against AIPAC above with still unprosecuted Jane Harman, Steve Rosen, Kenneth Weissman
2- 28 th Admendment abolishing Israeli and ALL OTHER FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS involvement in AIPAC like political corruption/'lobbying' -- with abolishment of AIPAC due to involvement in Rosen/Weissman/Harman espionage and derailing of Federal Trial
3- Shaming - SHAMING -- any in the American diaspora/Israeli Lobby still supportive of Apartheid Israel or AIPAC actions against the American gov
congratulations !!!!
you win most disjointed and convoluted post of the year , against stiff competition no less . put your foil hat back on and entertain us with tales of the illuminati and large greys !!!!!
Jeff Stein of CQ had reported that Harman was caught on wiretaps agreeing to "waddle into" a criminal prosecution of AIPAC officials, but AG Alberto Gonzales protected her. Good luck finding the original article. If I'm not mistaken, just like the bombshell story of the US entering an MOU whereby the NSA shares raw intelligence (including Americans' data) with Israel, this story was also deemed insufficiently newsworthy to publish on the front pages of major MSM media outlets, like the NYT or WaPo.
Here's the piece Alison Weir wrote for Counterpunch:
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1325002
Jews are opening the gates and telling whites to shut up.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1325371
Yes Clyde -- it is true --- victimhood is the first, last, and only refuge of the Jew.
The Big Jew steals - when its time to pay the piper, the Little Jew BEGS victimhood --- Art
You are an embarrassment to Jew haters everywhere. Hitler would have exiled you to the Eastern Front.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1325375
like Israel is stuck to Apartheid,
like Hillary is stuck to Saban/AIPAC
like Rubio/Cruz/Bush are stuck to AdelsonCHECKMATES: ‘Zionism as practiced by Israelis’, the Apartheid state itself, AIPAC, Hillary, Rubio/Cruz/Bush, etcLike mountain climbers all roped together crossing a crevasse, they're ALL GOING DOWN TOGETHER.... ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP!How does this happen?The Israel Lobby/Jewish Lobby in the US supportive of Israeli Apartheid is NOT being allowed to seperate (and CANNOT seperate) from the toppling of the Apartheid/Bibi's government, they are STUCK and stuck tight to the ApartheidThe Israeli Settler State is STUCK to the big Israeli Lobby money (Adelson, even Hillary's Saban, etc) and it is a civil war within the American Diaspora as those that know the Apartheid is crashing try to desperately cut it away while the Big Zion Money is forcing it's puppets (Hillary, Cruz, Rubio, etc) to try to hold back the TsunamiThere is an Israeli Civil War as well, the Settler State (the Settler IDF and Hilltop IDF) against the CIS Commanders for Israeli Security and a minority of Israeli 'leftist' civilians. This is just under the surface and breaking out as well - the CIS forcing the last elections, though now even Herzog is trying to jump to the right as the coming UN Sec Co Resolution against Israel comes down the pike supported by the US (abstention)The Three Existential Events - seen as such by Israel itself - which have already occurred or or now successfully occurring: 1- The Iran Nuclear Deal July 14 2016
2- The imminent UN Sec Co Resolution against Israel comes down the pike supported by the US (abstention)
3- The Successfully Advancing ICC Cases against Israel (over Protective Edge Op, and more) - called by the TOP Israeli legal teams Col Liron Libman (PUBLISHED Wikileaks Embassy cables as 'indefensible' and 'existential'We're taking down the Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby in the US in the SAME BAG as the collapsing Israeli Apartheid. The Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby is no longer tenable in the US --First we make AIPAC register as an agent of a foreign government then make it ILLEGAL as first Rep Jane Harman's completed crime* see below and Congressional collusion with Bibi's Putsch against the US (all documented by the NSA) comes out more into the light.Rep Jane Harman's 'completed crime' (so called by the FBI on record) for her collusion for NSA/FBI wiretapped Haim Saban/Jane Harman's phone calls in which she agreed to 'waddle over' to derail the AIPAC espionage trial of Pres Steve Rosen and VP Kenneth Weissman - Jane has as yet been UNPROSECUTED for this for the FBI is on record as call Jane's 'completed crime'. Reported in mainstream media Jeff Stein/Congressional Quarterly etcThen America passes the 28th Admendment outlawing AIPACIt's ONE BIG BAG and we ge them ALL TOGETHER - the Israeli Lobby, AIPAC, Apartheid Israel, and the American Congress involved in Bibi's Putsch against the US last fall-summer over the Iran Deal (can over the soon coming UN Sec Co Resolution against Israel) - and it INCLUDES HILLARYIt's the 2nd American Revolution - America free of the Israeli LobbyKISS -
1- Actions against AIPAC above with still unprosecuted Jane Harman, Steve Rosen, Kenneth Weissman
2- 28 th Admendment abolishing Israeli and ALL OTHER FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS involvement in AIPAC like political corruption/'lobbying' -- with abolishment of AIPAC due to involvement in Rosen/Weissman/Harman espionage and derailing of Federal Trial
3- Shaming - SHAMING -- any in the American diaspora/Israeli Lobby still supportive of Apartheid Israel or AIPAC actions against the American gov
Idiot child! You must get paid by the word. What Muslim country is not an apartheid state? Only a hasbara operation has enough time to type out such incoherent stupidity. Only Rehamat has you beat.
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you win most disjointed and convoluted post of the year , against stiff competition no less . put your foil hat back on and entertain us with tales of the illuminati and large greys !!!!!
I agree that blu should be congratulated. But it is for reminding us all of the treasonous behavior of former congresswoman Jane Harman.
Jeff Stein of CQ had reported that Harman was caught on wiretaps agreeing to “waddle into” a criminal prosecution of AIPAC officials, but AG Alberto Gonzales protected her. Good luck finding the original article. If I’m not mistaken, just like the bombshell story of the US entering an MOU whereby the NSA shares raw intelligence (including Americans’ data) with Israel, this story was also deemed insufficiently newsworthy to publish on the front pages of major MSM media outlets, like the NYT or WaPo.
Here’s the piece Alison Weir wrote for Counterpunch:
Harman is now director of US taxpayer-funded Woodrow Wilson Center, where she controls the history of Wilson that Americans learn and uses taxpayer dollars to hold seminar after conference after panel discussion on how good Israel is, although evil people oppress Jews, and how evil all kinds of other nations are, especially Palestinians, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran.
^^^^^
The American people fund another Jew, Jeffrey Rosen, who is director of the taxpayer funded National Constitution Center in Philadelphia.
^^^^^
The National Museum of American Jewish History is right across the street from the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia, Pa.
No state can have too many museums to Jews. There are about 145 museums to the holohoax worldwide in addition to 50 holohoax museums in the USA.
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Jeff Stein of CQ had reported that Harman was caught on wiretaps agreeing to "waddle into" a criminal prosecution of AIPAC officials, but AG Alberto Gonzales protected her. Good luck finding the original article. If I'm not mistaken, just like the bombshell story of the US entering an MOU whereby the NSA shares raw intelligence (including Americans' data) with Israel, this story was also deemed insufficiently newsworthy to publish on the front pages of major MSM media outlets, like the NYT or WaPo.
Here's the piece Alison Weir wrote for Counterpunch:
Further supporting the idea at the center of this essay –
Harman is now director of US taxpayer-funded Woodrow Wilson Center, where she controls the history of Wilson that Americans learn and uses taxpayer dollars to hold seminar after conference after panel discussion on how good Israel is, although evil people oppress Jews, and how evil all kinds of other nations are, especially Palestinians, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran.
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The American people fund another Jew, Jeffrey Rosen, who is director of the taxpayer funded National Constitution Center in Philadelphia.
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The National Museum of American Jewish History is right across the street from the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia, Pa.
No state can have too many museums to Jews. There are about 145 museums to the holohoax worldwide in addition to 50 holohoax museums in the USA.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1325497
The latest machinations of the night flower:
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1325551
Hey, Marwan, that’s because you aren’t looking. Google it, fercrissake!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1325572
Ah, so it’s democracy that Whore’s Anus worships.
When democracy decided slavery was good, then Whore’s Anus agrees, it was good.
When democracy decided that segregation was good, then Whore’s Anus agrees, it was good.
When democracy decided that displacing the Amerinds was good, then Whore’s Anus agrees, it was good.
And if democracy decides Whore’s Anus should be shipped off to the gulag, then Whore’s Anus will agree, it is good.
Or maybe Whore’s Anus doesn’t give a shit about democracy, either, and he’s just using might to make right when it’s just the status quo that he likes.
Like I’ve been saying all along.
Funny how leftists love democracy, a zillion-year-old institution where the 51% force the other 49% to go along…as long as leftists happen to be in the 51%, anyway.
Democracy is an obsolete relic from a time when economies were agrarian and communications took months or years to cross the globe, yet leftists cling to it – while they have the advantage, with the help of oligarch money – because it allows them to force the unwilling to go along. We can do much better now;with modern communications and information-sorting, we can do much more along the lines of self-sorting and self-determination and a la carte governance, but that’s all Greek to the leftist luddites.
Slavery was never about democracy.
"When democracy decided that segregation was good, then Whore’s Anus agrees, it was good."
Segregation was never about democracy.
"When democracy decided that displacing the Amerinds was good, then Whore’s Anus agrees, it was good."
Democracy didn't displace Native Americans, Europeans did. Which, is not surprising, given than throughout human history groups supplant one another.
"And if democracy decides Whore’s Anus should be shipped off to the gulag"
That would fascism, not democracy.
"a zillion-year-old institution where the 51% force the other 49% to go along…as long as leftists happen to be in the 51%, anyway."
It's called majority rules through representation by way of the social contract. No one is truly free, nor completely happy, in a democracy, since a citizen's preferences for something are never definitively realized.
"We can do much better now;with modern communications and information-sorting, we can do much more along the lines of self-sorting and self-determination and a la carte governance."
Who is this "we"?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1325587
That’s the Jews’ goal in prying the borders open in the first place: so they can always say “look, a squirrel” so nobody will notice their malfeasance. Btw, this isn’t racist (against the more visible minorities they’re importing/blaming) at all, because Jews always dindunuffins.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1325589
I see. So, if the majority ever turns against you, you won’t complain when it starts oppressing your favorite rights. Gotcha.
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"I'm more supportive of freedom and human happiness than you, because I support offering humanity a wider set of options in pursuit of happiness and self-determination. My way's better, because it offers not just the Kumbayah Race-Mixers a way forward, but also the ethnocentrists, and hell, everyone else, too. Aren't Freedom and Self-Determination wonderful ideas?"
Because he doesn't believe any of that. For him, it's his way or the highway.
“Because he doesn’t believe any of that. For him, it’s his way or the highway”
Now you’re just projecting.
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When democracy decided slavery was good, then Whore's Anus agrees, it was good.
When democracy decided that segregation was good, then Whore's Anus agrees, it was good.
When democracy decided that displacing the Amerinds was good, then Whore's Anus agrees, it was good.
And if democracy decides Whore's Anus should be shipped off to the gulag, then Whore's Anus will agree, it is good.
Or maybe Whore's Anus doesn't give a shit about democracy, either, and he's just using might to make right when it's just the status quo that he likes.
Like I've been saying all along.
Funny how leftists love democracy, a zillion-year-old institution where the 51% force the other 49% to go along...as long as leftists happen to be in the 51%, anyway.
Democracy is an obsolete relic from a time when economies were agrarian and communications took months or years to cross the globe, yet leftists cling to it - while they have the advantage, with the help of oligarch money - because it allows them to force the unwilling to go along. We can do much better now;with modern communications and information-sorting, we can do much more along the lines of self-sorting and self-determination and a la carte governance, but that's all Greek to the leftist luddites.
“When democracy decided slavery was good, then Whore’s Anus agrees, it was good.”
Slavery was never about democracy.
“When democracy decided that segregation was good, then Whore’s Anus agrees, it was good.”
Segregation was never about democracy.
“When democracy decided that displacing the Amerinds was good, then Whore’s Anus agrees, it was good.”
Democracy didn’t displace Native Americans, Europeans did. Which, is not surprising, given than throughout human history groups supplant one another.
“And if democracy decides Whore’s Anus should be shipped off to the gulag”
That would fascism, not democracy.
“a zillion-year-old institution where the 51% force the other 49% to go along…as long as leftists happen to be in the 51%, anyway.”
It’s called majority rules through representation by way of the social contract. No one is truly free, nor completely happy, in a democracy, since a citizen’s preferences for something are never definitively realized.
“We can do much better now;with modern communications and information-sorting, we can do much more along the lines of self-sorting and self-determination and a la carte governance.”
Who is this “we”?
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1325663
When democracy decided slavery was good, then Whore's Anus agrees, it was good.
When democracy decided that segregation was good, then Whore's Anus agrees, it was good.
When democracy decided that displacing the Amerinds was good, then Whore's Anus agrees, it was good.
And if democracy decides Whore's Anus should be shipped off to the gulag, then Whore's Anus will agree, it is good.
Or maybe Whore's Anus doesn't give a shit about democracy, either, and he's just using might to make right when it's just the status quo that he likes.
Like I've been saying all along.
Funny how leftists love democracy, a zillion-year-old institution where the 51% force the other 49% to go along...as long as leftists happen to be in the 51%, anyway.
Democracy is an obsolete relic from a time when economies were agrarian and communications took months or years to cross the globe, yet leftists cling to it - while they have the advantage, with the help of oligarch money - because it allows them to force the unwilling to go along. We can do much better now;with modern communications and information-sorting, we can do much more along the lines of self-sorting and self-determination and a la carte governance, but that's all Greek to the leftist luddites.
Svigor,
You are not on my side.
Nevertheless you are an efficient and sharp combatant.
I admire you.
And you are able to learn.
Mathias Corvinus or Matei Corvin (as we Romanians call him) was a famous Hungarian king.
AnaMarina plainly misspelled the pseudonym. You jumped at the bait and called your oponent: Carv-Anus.
It demeans you.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1325880
Slavery was never about democracy.
"When democracy decided that segregation was good, then Whore’s Anus agrees, it was good."
Segregation was never about democracy.
"When democracy decided that displacing the Amerinds was good, then Whore’s Anus agrees, it was good."
Democracy didn't displace Native Americans, Europeans did. Which, is not surprising, given than throughout human history groups supplant one another.
"And if democracy decides Whore’s Anus should be shipped off to the gulag"
That would fascism, not democracy.
"a zillion-year-old institution where the 51% force the other 49% to go along…as long as leftists happen to be in the 51%, anyway."
It's called majority rules through representation by way of the social contract. No one is truly free, nor completely happy, in a democracy, since a citizen's preferences for something are never definitively realized.
"We can do much better now;with modern communications and information-sorting, we can do much more along the lines of self-sorting and self-determination and a la carte governance."
Who is this "we"?
So might makes right is just part of human history, but we are to condemn fascism? Like I said, the Israelis need to ask for their money back.
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This man Yalom is out there again trying human being to forget what a scumbag he is and are his cohorts
“Ya’alon rejected the Saudi prince’s remarks, saying there was no connection between the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and current problems elsewhere in the Middle East. “There is a conflict with the Palestinians – but what is the linkage between this and the Iranian revolution? ISIS [the Islamic State organization] has a connection to the conflict? The civil war in Syria or the uprising in Tunisia? The situation in Yemen or Iraq? There is no connection.”
http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/.premium-1.703206
The filth doesn’t know what interconnected events mean,what the sequele mean,what it means to say the cause and effects.
But his Rabi taught him how to blame 18 century antisemitism for the protest of the ” occupy movement”
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1326872
Corvanus...you are welcome to "fraudulate" and "obfuscate" to your hearts content. But the truth is ...Guantanamo Bay is way to good for these fraudulent scum. Perhaps you should be remaindered there, too....to think about it for a couple dozen years.Then you might learn a proper lesson in the distinction between "defrauding " and "reporting".How else will you, and those you are so anxious to defend,learn,never,to do it again ?
NATIONAL MARCH to SUPPORT PALESTINE and PROTEST AIPAC
Sunday, March 20,, at 12:00 PM – 5:00 PM in EDT -
Phil has been invited to speak at this event. Will you be joining us?
Al-Awda, The Palestinian Right to Return Coalition and the ANSWER Coalition are co-sponsoring the National March to Support Palestine and Protest AIPAC. We are expecting hundreds of organizations and individual leaders to endorse this activity and join the effort!
12 Noon: Assemble at the White House
1pm-5pm: March to the Washington, D.C. Convention Center
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http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1327307
This is all in the Bible in the book of Revelation (Apocalypse of St. John). These people collectively are The Beast and their boss is The Dragon, Satan. In the end they are cast into the lake of fire to suffer torment day and night forever and ever (chapters 19 – 20).
PS: The United States is the harlot, the Whore Babylon, the Beast’s bitch who is destroyed when she is no longer of use to him (chapters 17:15, 18).
Take solace that justice is served in the end.
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“As we noted, Pascal Markowicz, chief lawyer of the CRIF umbrella organization of French Jewish communities, published this celebratory decree (emphasis in original): “BDS is ILLEGAL in France.” Statements advocating a boycott or sanctions, he added, “are completely illegal. If [BDS activists] say their freedom of expression has been violated, now France’s highest legal instance ruled otherwise.” In Canada last year, officials threatened criminal prosecution against anyone supporting boycotts against Israel.
In the U.S., unbeknownst to many, there are similar legislative proscriptions on such activism, and a pending bill would strengthen the outlawing of BDS. As the Washington Post reported last June, “A wave of anti-BDS legislation is sweeping the U.S.” Numerous bills in Congress encourage or require state action to combat BDS.
Eyal Press warned in a must-read New York Times op-ed last month that under a Customs Bill passed by both houses of Congress and headed to the White House, “American officials will be obligated to treat the settlements as part of Israel in future trade negotiations,” a provision specifically designed “to combat the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement, a grass-roots campaign.” But as Press notes, under existing law — which is almost never discussed — “Washington already forbids American companies to cooperate with state-led boycotts of Israel.”
https://theintercept.com/2016/02/16/greatest-threat-to-free-speech-in-the-west-criminalizing-activism-against-israeli-occupation/
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1329510
Wow, great comment. Almost a whole article in itself! Entirely agree with everything you said, and was very well constructed. Cheers!
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1329780
Islamist Indonesia government did not kill 500,000 Suharto Regime orchestrated anti communist pogrom killing Chinese but a fair number of educated muslim and large number of mulsim peasant . He did this they way Congo did with Patric Lumumba – with complete help of CIA
he overthrew Sukorno
Who benefited from the regime change?
US Corporations and Chinese Business class . Israel had diplomatic relation murderous anti Islamic regime .
Chinese Christians were against the independence movement from Dutch colonization. In Holland , one could see some Indonesia diaspora and they are all Christian .
Islam claimed the country back after Suharto was deposed .
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1329816
Replace "Zio-supremacists" with "Zio-supremacists and Anti-Jew conspiracists" and you are spot on.
"Jewish supremacism is real."
Are you impotent as a non-Jew to actually counteract their alleged world-wide reach?
I prefer humanity rather than a particular identity. Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.
“Are you impotent as a non-Jew to actually counteract their alleged world-wide reach?
Ask the media to report what the interest of Sheldon in buying the GOP hopefuls and holding the pre caucus screening ?
You will see a lot of impotent around walking talking and lecturing .
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[Capitalization in comments is shouting. Stop shouting or all your future comments will be trashed.]
WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG FOR SWEEDEN TO LEARN WHAT COMMON MEN AND WOMEN HAVE LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO.
THIS PARTICULAR WRITER SHOULD LOOK UP BROTHER NATHANIEL KEPNER WHO’S SITE IS REAL JEW NEWS, OR CHECK JEW WATCH AND THERE HE OR SHE CAN MOVE AHEAD OF THE GAME SPECIALY WHEN YOU HAVE A PUBLIC PEN AND A PLATAFORM TO EXPSRSS YOUR VIEWS OF WHAT THE TRUTH REALY IS ALL ABOUT, THAT WAY THE MORE PEOPLE THAT WAKES UP TO THIS GREAT DECEPTION THE QUICKER THAT THE REST OF HUMANITY CAN BRING THIS LAWLESS AND GODLESS TRIBE THO HEEL
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1330091
Dumpster McAine, what is going to take for you to UNDERSTAND THAT THESE SCUM BAGS THAT CALL THEMSELVES JEWS ARE NOT ” BIBLICAL HEBREWS “.
The Romans would never take these scum bags with them once they decided to destroy ISRAHELL AS JESUS CHRIST TOLD THEM IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN,
MOSSAD WAS THE LAST STAND THAT THE HEBREWS MADE AGAINST THE ROMANS AND THE ROMANS KILLED THEM ALL. THE ONLY ONES THAT ESCAPE WERE THE HEBREWS THAT HAD ALREADY ACCEPTED THE MESSAGE OF SALVATION THAT CHRIST CAME TO SHARE WITH HIS FOLLOWERS, GOD GOT THEM OUT OR ISRAEL IN THE YEAR 50 AD. 20 YEARS PRIOR TO THE DESTRUCTION WHICH IT HAPPEN IN THE YEAR 70 AD.
But those Hebrews that escaped never called themselves JEWS , they were KNOWN AS CHRISTIANS FROM THEN ON BECAUSE WHOM EVER SAW THEM WITH CHRIST AS BELIEVERS BEGAN CALLING THEM CHRISTIANSM BUT NOT EVEN CHRIST TOLD US THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE CALLED CHRISTIANS WE ARE JUST ” BELIEVERS OF CHRIST MESSAGE ” MEN IS THE ONE THAT HAS MADE TITLES TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS CHRISTIANS OR BAPTIST ETC. THOSE ARE JUST LABLES, MADE BY MEN KIND IN ORDER TO PUT US IN A BOX. BUT WE DO NOT BELONG IN A BOX WE WERE GIVEN THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO “BE FREE LIKE THE WIND”. MEN KIND HAS USE LABLES TO ENSLAVE US INTO A BUILDING SP THAT THEY CANBECOME PARASITES TO THE TYS AND TELLING THE BELIEVERS THAT IF THEY LEAVE THE GIVEN CHURCH THEN THEY BECOME REBELS TO GOD’S SPIRIT AND THAT WE NEED TO BE GROWNDED TO THE WHIMS OF A LEADER, DID NOT CHRIST TOLD US THAT WE ALL WERE MINISTRS OF HIM?
ONCE THE JEWS INFILTRATED THE MANY DENOMINATIONS WHICH THEY CREATED TO INDOCTRINATE THE BELIEVERS INTO BECOMEING 2ND CLASS CITIZENS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD BY MAKEING THE SO CALLED JEWS THE ” CHOSEN ONES” IF THAT WAS TRUE THEN WHY DID GOD HAVE TO RENEW A COVENANT WITH HUMANITY AND MAKEING THE BELIEVERS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT THE ADOPTED ONES OF GOD WHICH THAT MAKES THE BELIEVER THE CHOSEN ONES ACORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS REVISED BY GOD HIMSELF.
THAT IS WHAT THE WHOLE DECEPTION IS ALL ABOUT THESE CRIMINALS WORSHIP SATAN AND THEIR TALMUD IS THE PROOF OF THEIR RELIGION OF HATE JUST LIKE THE HATE THAT SATAN HAS TOWARDS JESUS CHRIST
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1330292
The Romans would never take these scum bags with them once they decided to destroy ISRAHELL AS JESUS CHRIST TOLD THEM IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN,
MOSSAD WAS THE LAST STAND THAT THE HEBREWS MADE AGAINST THE ROMANS AND THE ROMANS KILLED THEM ALL. THE ONLY ONES THAT ESCAPE WERE THE HEBREWS THAT HAD ALREADY ACCEPTED THE MESSAGE OF SALVATION THAT CHRIST CAME TO SHARE WITH HIS FOLLOWERS, GOD GOT THEM OUT OR ISRAEL IN THE YEAR 50 AD. 20 YEARS PRIOR TO THE DESTRUCTION WHICH IT HAPPEN IN THE YEAR 70 AD.
But those Hebrews that escaped never called themselves JEWS , they were KNOWN AS CHRISTIANS FROM THEN ON BECAUSE WHOM EVER SAW THEM WITH CHRIST AS BELIEVERS BEGAN CALLING THEM CHRISTIANSM BUT NOT EVEN CHRIST TOLD US THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE CALLED CHRISTIANS WE ARE JUST " BELIEVERS OF CHRIST MESSAGE " MEN IS THE ONE THAT HAS MADE TITLES TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS CHRISTIANS OR BAPTIST ETC. THOSE ARE JUST LABLES, MADE BY MEN KIND IN ORDER TO PUT US IN A BOX. BUT WE DO NOT BELONG IN A BOX WE WERE GIVEN THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO "BE FREE LIKE THE WIND". MEN KIND HAS USE LABLES TO ENSLAVE US INTO A BUILDING SP THAT THEY CANBECOME PARASITES TO THE TYS AND TELLING THE BELIEVERS THAT IF THEY LEAVE THE GIVEN CHURCH THEN THEY BECOME REBELS TO GOD'S SPIRIT AND THAT WE NEED TO BE GROWNDED TO THE WHIMS OF A LEADER, DID NOT CHRIST TOLD US THAT WE ALL WERE MINISTRS OF HIM?
ONCE THE JEWS INFILTRATED THE MANY DENOMINATIONS WHICH THEY CREATED TO INDOCTRINATE THE BELIEVERS INTO BECOMEING 2ND CLASS CITIZENS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD BY MAKEING THE SO CALLED JEWS THE " CHOSEN ONES" IF THAT WAS TRUE THEN WHY DID GOD HAVE TO RENEW A COVENANT WITH HUMANITY AND MAKEING THE BELIEVERS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT THE ADOPTED ONES OF GOD WHICH THAT MAKES THE BELIEVER THE CHOSEN ONES ACORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS REVISED BY GOD HIMSELF.
THAT IS WHAT THE WHOLE DECEPTION IS ALL ABOUT THESE CRIMINALS WORSHIP SATAN AND THEIR TALMUD IS THE PROOF OF THEIR RELIGION OF HATE JUST LIKE THE HATE THAT SATAN HAS TOWARDS JESUS CHRIST
Unlock your CAPS, dude! We don’t read crazy screamers here.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1330787
Tedcar.wordpress.com…
The Jews have the West by the throat and that is no exaggeration.
ALL the CEOs of western intelligence agencies are Jews.Parker of MI5 being just one example.
MI5 infiltrates and disrupts any political party which the Jews do not already control.
Cameron is a Jew..as is Corbyn,as is the buffoonish mayor of London, Boris Johnson.
The “limited hangout” on Cameron is that he is half Jewish and has vague connections with Jewry… complete nonsense of course.(see 15th C Spain/Marrano’s/nueva Christians/crypto Jews.)
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1334507
Chinese,Turkish and Indonesians do not control the British government you Jew wanker©.
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-international-conspiracy/#comment-1334509
I think, perhaps, that should not be too much to ask of Israel … it does it has a “peace plan”?
Nation any (and all) on this planet, in a state of war, should we not required to present a form of solving its own conflicts, which accords with international law?
If so … then where is Israels plan for peace?
What it look like? .. .which Makes it look like?
Assume for a moment, Mr. Giraldi, that you are at war against an enemy, and the enemy has accepted all resolutions internationally mandated the conflict … and you do not.
http://www.newsbbc.net/2016/03/clinton-on-defensive-in-flint.html
How is it possible that your enemy (who accepted the terms of worlds for Peace), is the terrorist organization in the equation … and not you?Israel has done a tremendous job in selling to the world its “war against terrorism”, but absence of a viable peace plan of its own (and the will to implement) … is not before the “terrorist” label is, rightly, perhaps his own father.
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