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The American journalist, Edward Bernays, is often described as the man who invented modern propaganda.

The nephew of Sigmund Freud, the pioneer of psycho-analysis, it was Bernays who coined the term “public relations” as a euphemism for spin and its deceptions.

In 1929, he persuaded feminists to promote cigarettes for women by smoking in the New York Easter Parade – behaviour then considered outlandish. One feminist, Ruth Booth, declared, “Women! Light another torch of freedom! Fight another sex taboo!”

Bernays’ influence extended far beyond advertising. His greatest success was his role in convincing the American public to join the slaughter of the First World War. The secret, he said, was “engineering the consent” of people in order to “control and regiment [them] according to our will without their knowing about it”.

He described this as “the true ruling power in our society” and called it an “invisible government”.

Today, the invisible government has never been more powerful and less understood. In my career as a journalist and film-maker, I have never known propaganda to insinuate our lives and as it does now and to go unchallenged.

Imagine two cities.

Both are under siege by the forces of the government of that country. Both cities are occupied by fanatics, who commit terrible atrocities, such as beheading people.

But there is a vital difference. In one siege, the government soldiers are described as liberators by Western reporters embedded with them, who enthusiastically report their battles and air strikes. There are front page pictures of these heroic soldiers giving a V-sign for victory. There is scant mention of civilian casualties.

In the second city – in another country nearby – almost exactly the same is happening. Government forces are laying siege to a city controlled by the same breed of fanatics.

The difference is that these fanatics are supported, supplied and armed by “us” – by the United States and Britain. They even have a media centre that is funded by Britain and America.

Another difference is that the government soldiers laying siege to this city are the bad guys, condemned for assaulting and bombing the city – which is exactly what the good soldiers do in the first city.

Confusing? Not really. Such is the basic double standard that is the essence of propaganda. I am referring, of course, to the current siege of the city of Mosul by the government forces of Iraq, who are backed by the United States and Britain and to the siege of Aleppo by the government forces of Syria, backed by Russia. One is good; the other is bad.

What is seldom reported is that both cities would not be occupied by fanatics and ravaged by war if Britain and the United States had not invaded Iraq in 2003. That criminal enterprise was launched on lies strikingly similar to the propaganda that now distorts our understanding of the civil war in Syria.

Without this drumbeat of propaganda dressed up as news, the monstrous ISIS and Al-Qaida and al-Nusra and the rest of the jihadist gang might not exist, and the people of Syria might not be fighting for their lives today.

Some may remember in 2003 a succession of BBC reporters turning to the camera and telling us that Blair was “vindicated” for what turned out to be the crime of the century. The US television networks produced the same validation for George W. Bush. Fox News brought on Henry Kissinger to effuse over Colin Powell’s fabrications.

The same year, soon after the invasion, I filmed an interview in Washington with Charles Lewis, the renowned American investigative journalist. I asked him, “What would have happened if the freest media in the world had seriously challenged what turned out to be crude propaganda?”

He replied that if journalists had done their job, “there is a very, very good chance we would not have gone to war in Iraq”.

It was a shocking statement, and one supported by other famous journalists to whom I put the same question — Dan Rather of CBS, David Rose of the Observer and journalists and producers in the BBC, who wished to remain anonymous.

In other words, had journalists done their job, had they challenged and investigated the propaganda instead of amplifying it, hundreds of thousands of men, women and children would be alive today, and there would be no ISIS and no siege of Aleppo or Mosul.

There would have been no atrocity on the London Underground on 7thJuly 2005. There would have been no flight of millions of refugees; there would be no miserable camps.

When the terrorist atrocity happened in Paris last November, President Francoise Hollande immediately sent planes to bomb Syria – and more terrorism followed, predictably, the product of Hollande’s bombast about France being “at war” and “showing no mercy”. That state violence and jihadist violence feed off each other is the truth that no national leader has the courage to speak.

“When the truth is replaced by silence,” said the Soviet dissident Yevtushenko, “the silence is a lie.”

The attack on Iraq, the attack on Libya, the attack on Syria happened because the leader in each of these countries was not a puppet of the West. The human rights record of a Saddam or a Gaddafi was irrelevant. They did not obey orders and surrender control of their country.

The same fate awaited Slobodan Milosevic once he had refused to sign an “agreement” that demanded the occupation of Serbia and its conversion to a market economy. His people were bombed, and he was prosecuted in The Hague. Independence of this kind is intolerable.

As WikLeaks has revealed, it was only when the Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad in 2009 rejected an oil pipeline, running through his country from Qatar to Europe, that he was attacked.

From that moment, the CIA planned to destroy the government of Syria with jihadist fanatics – the same fanatics currently holding the people of Mosul and eastern Aleppo hostage.

Why is this not news? The former British Foreign Office official Carne Ross, who was responsible for operating sanctions against Iraq, told me: “We would feed journalists factoids of sanitised intelligence, or we would freeze them out. That is how it worked.”

The West’s medieval client, Saudi Arabia – to which the US and Britain sell billions of dollars’ worth of arms – is at present destroying Yemen, a country so poor that in the best of times, half the children are malnourished.

Look on YouTube and you will see the kind of massive bombs – “our” bombs – that the Saudis use against dirt-poor villages, and against weddings, and funerals.

The explosions look like small atomic bombs. The bomb aimers in Saudi Arabia work side-by-side with British officers. This fact is not on the evening news.

Propaganda is most effective when our consent is engineered by those with a fine education – Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Columbia — and with careers on the BBC, the Guardian, the New York Times, the Washington Post.

These organisations are known as the liberal media. They present themselves as enlightened, progressive tribunes of the moral zeitgeist. They are anti-racist, pro-feminist and pro-LGBT.

And they love war.

While they speak up for feminism, they support rapacious wars that deny the rights of countless women, including the right to life.

In 2011, Libya, then a modern state, was destroyed on the pretext that Muammar Gaddafi was about to commit genocide on his own people. That was the incessant news; and there was no evidence. It was a lie.

In fact, Britain, Europe and the United States wanted what they like to call “regime change” in Libya, the biggest oil producer in Africa. Gaddafi’s influence in the continent and, above all, his independence were intolerable.

So he was murdered with a knife in his rear by fanatics, backed by America, Britain and France. Hillary Clinton cheered his gruesome death for the camera, declaring, “We came, we saw, he died!”

The destruction of Libya was a media triumph. As the war drums were beaten, Jonathan Freedland wrote in the Guardian: “Though the risks are very real, the case for intervention remains strong.”

Intervention — what a polite, benign, Guardian word, whose real meaning, for Libya, was death and destruction.

According to its own records, Nato launched 9,700 “strike sorties” against Libya, of which more than a third were aimed at civilian targets. They included missiles with uranium warheads. Look at the photographs of the rubble of Misurata and Sirte, and the mass graves identified by the Red Cross. The Unicef report on the children killed says, “most [of them] under the age of ten”.

As a direct consequence, Sirte became the capital of ISIS.

Ukraine is another media triumph. Respectable liberal newspapers such as the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Guardian, and mainstream broadcasters such as the BBC, NBC, CBS, CNN have played a critical role in conditioning their viewers to accept a new and dangerous cold war.

All have misrepresented events in Ukraine as a malign act by Russia when, in fact, the coup in Ukraine in 2014 was the work of the United States, aided by Germany and Nato.

This inversion of reality is so pervasive that Washington’s military intimidation of Russia is not news; it is suppressed behind a smear and scare campaign of the kind I grew up with during the first cold war. Once again, the Ruskies are coming to get us, led by another Stalin, whom The Economist depicts as the devil.

The suppression of the truth about Ukraine is one of the most complete news blackouts I can remember. The fascists who engineered the coup in Kiev are the same breed that backed the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941. Of all the scares about the rise of fascist anti-Semitism in Europe, no leader ever mentions the fascists in Ukraine – except Vladimir Putin, but he does not count.

Many in the Western media have worked hard to present the ethnic Russian-speaking population of Ukraine as outsiders in their own country, as agents of Moscow, almost never as Ukrainians seeking a federation within Ukraine and as Ukrainian citizens resisting a foreign-orchestrated coup against their elected government.

There is almost the joie d’esprit of a class reunion of warmongers.

The drum-beaters of the Washington Post inciting war with Russia are the very same editorial writers who published the lie that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

To most of us, the American presidential campaign is a media freak show, in which Donald Trump is the arch villain.

But Trump is loathed by those with power in the United States for reasons that have little to do with his obnoxious behaviour and opinions. To the invisible government in Washington, the unpredictable Trump is an obstacle to America’s design for the 21stcentury.

This is to maintain the dominance of the United States and to subjugate Russia, and, if possible, China.

To the militarists in Washington, the real problem with Trump is that, in his lucid moments, he seems not to want a war with Russia; he wants to talk with the Russian president, not fight him; he says he wants to talk with the president of China.

In the first debate with Hillary Clinton, Trump promised not to be the first to introduce nuclear weapons into a conflict. He said, “I would certainly not do first strike. Once the nuclear alternative happens, it’s over.” That was not news.

Did he really mean it? Who knows? He often contradicts himself. But what is clear is that Trump is considered a serious threat to the status quo maintained by the vast national security machine that runs the United States, regardless of who is in the White House.

The CIA wants him beaten. The Pentagon wants him beaten. The media wants him beaten. Even his own party wants him beaten. He is a threat to the rulers of the world – unlike Clinton who has left no doubt she is prepared to go to war with nuclear-armed Russia and China.

Clinton has the form, as she often boasts. Indeed, her record is proven. As a senator, she backed the bloodbath in Iraq. When she ran against Obama in 2008, she threatened to “totally obliterate” Iran. As Secretary of State, she colluded in the destruction of governments in Libya and Honduras and set in train the baiting of China.

She has now pledged to support a No Fly Zone in Syria — a direct provocation for war with Russia. Clinton may well become the most dangerous president of the United States in my lifetime –a distinction for which the competition is fierce.

Without a shred of evidence, she has accused Russia of supporting Trump and hacking her emails. Released by WikiLeaks, these emails tell us that what Clinton says in private, in speeches to the rich and powerful, is the opposite of what she says in public.

That is why silencing and threatening Julian Assange is so important. As the editor of WikiLeaks, Assange knows the truth. And let me assure those who are concerned, he is well, and WikiLeaks is operating on all cylinders.

Today, the greatest build-up of American-led forces since World War Two is under way – in the Caucasus and eastern Europe, on the border with Russia, and in Asia and the Pacific, where China is the target.

Keep that in mind when the presidential election circus reaches its finale on November 8th, If the winner is Clinton, a Greek chorus of witless commentators will celebrate her coronation as a great step forward for women. None will mention Clinton’s victims: the women of Syria, the women of Iraq, the women of Libya. None will mention the civil defence drills being conducted in Russia. None will recall Edward Bernays’ “torches of freedom”.

George Bush’s press spokesman once called the media “complicit enablers”.

Coming from a senior official in an administration whose lies, enabled by the media, caused such suffering, that description is a warning from history.

In 1946, the Nuremberg Tribunal prosecutor said of the German media: “Before every major aggression, they initiated a press campaign calculated to weaken their victims and to prepare the German people psychologically for the attack. In the propaganda system, it was the daily press and the radio that were the most important weapons.”

This is adapted from an address to the Sheffield Festival of Words, Sheffield, England.

John Pilger can be reached through his website: www.johnpilger.com

(Republished from Counterpunch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Pilger keeps saying things like “had journalists done their job”, then making reference to stuff like reporting honestly and truthfully, finding out when politicians are lying, actively trying to expose propaganda, and so forth – as if those things are related to the job of a ‘journalist’.

    He’s either bullshítting, or he’s an idiot. I don’t think he’s an idiot.

    Journalists at major media organisations are “doing their job” when eyeballs meet advertisements. Their job is – literally – to furnish material that encourages readers and viewers to click/read/watch advertisements. Anyone who claims otherwise is acting in bad faith, because it’s objectively the case.

    Everyone points at Mencken, or Taibbi, or Greenwald, or Woodward & Bernstein, as examples of what ‘journalism’ means. Or Sy Hersh, or Bob Woodward.

    But the fact is that “journalism” is far more Jayson Blair and Judith Miller and Bill Keller and Anderson Cooper and Geraldo Rivera and Wolf Blitzer and Jeffrey Goldberg and Charles Krauthammer and Christiane Amanpour and Tom Friedman and David Brooks.

    OK, Blair and Miller got busted, but the rest of them? They are representative of what ‘journalism’ actually means. It’s not a ‘craft’, or a vocation, or an obsessive pursuit of the truth: it’s vying for scraps from the overlords’ tables and waiting for a pat on the head.

    And let’s be clear: media enterprises only make money when they sell ad space, and they only sell ad space if advertisers are convinced that the audience will watch/read/click ads (depending on the platform). In other words, the entire business model is based on a large number of readers/viewers being breathtakingly stupid and lazy.

    We all have remote controls for our TVs, so consider how stupid and lazy you have to be to actually be an ‘ad-watcher’… someone who doesn’t mute the ads or change the channel between the chunks of putative entertainment (or ‘news’). Someone who actually watches ads is easily dumb enough for advertising to work on them – so in a large population the business model is vindicated even if 90% of people mute or switch.

    Same is true for internet advertising: again, anybody can ‘mute’ the ads (by installing a browser extension) – and if you don’t take advantage of that, you’re objectively dumber than the median. (Leave aside some people who might ‘whitelist’ selected sites as an act of solidarity – even though very few ad platforms pay purely for display of ads… most models require ‘clickthroughs’).

  2. Wally says: • Website

    “In 1946, the Nuremberg Tribunal prosecutor said of the German media: “Before every major aggression, they initiated a press campaign calculated to weaken their victims and to prepare the German people psychologically for the attack. In the propaganda system, it was the daily press and the radio that were the most important weapons.”

    Don’t make me laugh, Nuremberg was rigged to the max, Bernays style, with torture.

    The official use of torture in extracting “confessions” from Germans has been confirmed repeatedly.

    - All but two of the Germans [on trial at Nuremberg], in the 139 cases that we investigated, had their testicles kicked in beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators:” 23.1.49, The Sunday Pictorial (quoted in For Those Who Cannot Speak (ref. 27), p.21.The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months..The investigators would put a black hood over the accused’s head, punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses. American judge, van Roden

    - Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    ” The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history.”
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    - All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was Standard Operating Procedure with American investigators.
    by Judge E. L. van Roden, “American Atrocities in Germany”, The Progressive. February 1949, p. 21f.

    – Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred.
    – Congressional Record, appendix. v. 95,sec.12, 3/10/49

    - “The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to [Bernard] Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: ‘Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.’”(12)
    12.R. Butler, Legions of Death, Hamlyn, (London, 1983), p.237

    - The admission of Bernard Clarke was corroborated by Mr. Ken Jones in ‘The Wrexham Leader’, October 17, 1986.
    Mr. Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid in Schleswig-Holstein.
    “They brought him to us when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activites during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks,” recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Hoess in his cell to help break him down for interrogation.”
    “We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to help break down his resistance,” said Mr. Jones.
    When Hoess was taken out for exercise, he was made to wear only jeans and a thin cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three days and nights without sleep, Hoess finally broke down and made a full confession to the authorities.

    and:
    “The London Cage was used partly as a torture centre, inside which large numbers of German officers and soldiers were subjected to systematic ill-treatment. In total 3,573 men passed through the Cage, and more than 1,000 were persuaded to give statements about war crimes. The brutality did not end with the war, moreover: a number of German civilians joined the servicemen who were interrogated there up to 1948.
    As the work of the Cage was wound down, the interrogation of prisoners was switched to a number of internment camps in Germany. And there is evidence that the treatment meted out in these places was, if anything, far worse. While many of the papers relating to these interrogation centres remain sealed at the Foreign Office, it is clear that one camp in the British zone became particularly notorious. At least two German prisoners starved to death there, according to a court of inquiry, while others were shot for minor offenses.

    There was no legal precedent for this, one official noted, besides which “any court of inquiry into these allegations would be futile”.

    In one complaint lodged at the National Archives, a 27-year-old German journalist being held at this camp said he had spent two years as a prisoner of the Gestapo. And not once, he said, did they treat him as badly as the British.

    more here:

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9399

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

  3. Miro23 says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Journalists at major media organizations are “doing their job” when eyeballs meet advertisements. Their job is – literally – to furnish material that encourages readers and viewers to click/read/watch advertisements. Anyone who claims otherwise is acting in bad faith, because it’s objectively the case.

    How can it objectively be the case?

    If DJT has enough support among the US public to be level with HRC in the polls, then why does the MSM go to such lengths to alienate and attack his supporters. The objective answer is that the MSM is a political vehicle. Journalists “do their job” when they write articles that follow the political line, not articles designed to direct readers to advertising.

  4. @Kratoklastes

    Journalists and their moneyed patrons function to disseminate biased propaganda with the primary intent to influence public elections, and they will do it even at a loss of corporate profitability.

    The so-called invisible or shadow government is a ultra-large horde of organized voters that are conditioned by mafia-media to regularly trade their votes for government sponsored entitlements.

  5. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Propaganda is most effective when our consent is engineered by those with a fine education – Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Columbia — and with careers on the BBC, the Guardian, the New York Times, the Washington Post.

    We have a name for the latter: presstitutes. What about the first group? slutterati? twitterati seems too kind, while chattering classes downplays their insidiousness.

  6. Great essay undermined by fanciful notions of WWII, when the rot really set in.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  7. 2Frothy4 says:

    I agree with the author,throughout the article,except for his view on Dan Rather.
    Dan Rather was one who took real journalism down from Cronkite and Roger Mudd
    into the cult of personality and led the way for the the Riveras and Bilzers.
    Fame was more important to Rather than anything else,and it showed.

  8. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    From an April 2003 Haaretz article:

    The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it’s possible.

    This is a war of an elite. [Tom] Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/white-man-s-burden-1.14110

    All one has to do is to change Iraq with Libya, then Syria and this news story stays current. What Tom Friedman finds funny about that war–Iraq–that makes him laugh is beyond me.
    Maybe if Mr. Friedman were to experience first-hand the sheer terror of fleeing from artillery shells falling down around him or smart bombs raining down from the sky, with no safe place left to run, and roving, armed psychopathic gangs, who shoot anything that moves, maybe if Tommie were to ‘enjoy’ that not as a well-paid spectator but as an unwilling participant, maybe then he wouldn’t think it so funny?

    Face it, the MSM is corrupt and has been for decades.

  9. Kiza says:
    @Kratoklastes

    You totally and totally misunderstand media and, most of all, advertising. Although an exaggeration, this is the closest you do come to the truth: “the entire business model is based on a large number of readers/viewers being breathtakingly stupid and lazy”. Simply put, media owners want both advertising revenue and political influence from the costly tools they own. We are all willingly giving them both by being “stupid and lazy”. Your attack on Pilger is totally unjustified, because Pilger is an idealist and he has put his life where his mouth always was – he is a top class investigative journalist and a highly ethical individual. Of all Australians, he is the only one ahead of Julian Assange. I do not agree with Pilger’s left wing orientation, but this does not reduce my respect for a highly principled individual. If you want to be a nihilist, cynic and a smart-alek, by any means, but please do not be “either bullshítting or an idiot” about Pilger.

    My favorite description of MSM is what I read on zerohedge recently: MSM are a 12″ sewage pipe coming into your home, full of smelly and diseased content, and we are willingly letting it run in and deliver. Yank the sewage pipe out of your home and your life, set yourself free!

  10. Rehmat says:

    Paul Joseph Goebbels, and Benjamin Netanyahu must have learned their propaganda lies from Edward Bernays. The first was a goyim so became enemy while Netanyahu being a Zionist Jew became an idol of Organized Jewry’s ‘PR Values’ ….. He even excelled Bernays.

    In October 2015, Netanyahu told the 37th World Zionist Congress that Adolf Hitler only wanted to expel the German Jews, but he was advised by Palestinian Mufti al-Haj Amin al-Husseini (d. 1974 in Lebanon) to exterminate the Jews….

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/10/22/netanyahu-absolves-hitler-of-holocaust/

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @anon
    , @Wally
  11. Che Guava says:

    Mr. Pilger,

    You do great work in this article.

    The American journalist, Edward Bernays, is often described as the man who invented modern propaganda.

    I would also ascribe much, or more, of the invention of modern propaganda to Goebels.

    The difference is that these fanatics are supported, supplied and armed by “us” – by the United States and Britain.

    I would add, the Gulf States (including ‘Saudi Arabib’) and Erdogan’s Turkey.

    Work tomorrow, ending here, agree with most of your points. Will be making a quick reply to an earlier poster.

  12. The American journalist, Edward Bernays, is often described as the man who invented modern propaganda.

    … Bernays who coined the term “public relations” as a euphemism for spin and its deceptions.


    Mr. Bernays to Dr. Goebbels to S.H.I.T

    The “Engineering of Consent”

    Edward Bernays, who was Sigmund Freud’s nephew, recalled in his 1965 autobiography being shocked on learning his book Crystallizing Public Opinion was being used by Joseph Goebbels against the Jews in Nazi Germany.

    https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2015/01/11/mr-bernays-to-dr-goebbels-to-s-h-i-t-3/

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  13. nsa says:

    Pilger is quite the pc fraud and disinfo innoculator. Any mention of the jooie role in all the carnage? Any mention of the tribal ownership and management of the KMM (kosher mainstream media) and the US congress? In fact, are the vile jooie israel firsters and their lust for arab blood mentioned at all? Pilger is exactly what he rails against……..

  14. Che Guava says:
    @Wally

    I own a copy of the book to which I would guess you refer. About a camp in England, where the German prisoners were allowed no Geneva Convention rights. Constant brainwashing, exposure to bullying by the chosen, etc. It is a mainstream publication, small print run, and the writer is clear about his own rank, role, and name.

    Anthony Burgess visits the topic, in part, in his novel Earthly Powers, although the concern there is more for Nazi collaborators being sent back to the USSR, to inevitably be consigned to the GULAG.

  15. Che Guava says:
    @Rehmat

    One would imagine that Goebbels was bright enough to work his ideas out by himself.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  16. @Pat Hannagan

    I’ve reread the speech by Pilger and I can’t work out what you are referring to with your “fanciful notions of WW2″. What are you saying?

  17. Che Guava says:
    @Robert Magill

    You make no case for Bernays influencing Goebbels, the latter only needed to be aware of the propaganda of the Bolsheviks and the KPD and SPD, plus advertising, the cinema, and c.

    I have read Goebbels, admittedly a while ago, never recall him when writing on propaganda to cite this craze for Bernays. The recent Bernays craze is just another example of the media boosting the chosen.

    There must already be chairs of Bernays studies at influential US universities.

    Btw, I followed your link to your moronic post (an error, because one as sick as you may well use the log).

    It was really creepy.

    • Replies: @Robert Magill
    , @edNels
  18. utu says:

    Here is a brief video that shows manufacturing victims of bombing in Syria/Iraq?

    • Agree: Kiza
  19. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rehmat

    Hey Ramhole the takkiya troll ,
    Is this crude propaganda as well ,or is this exactly what happened to you when you were a young koran student LoL ??

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37829348

    Iranians shocked as Koran reciter faces child sex abuse claims

    An Excerpt :

    [MORE]

    Child sex abuse allegations involving one of Iran’s best-known Koran reciters are causing shock and anger in the country, days after several accusers took the unprecedented step of going public with the claims.

    Saeed Tousi, 46, who has ties to both the religious and political elite, faces accusations that he assaulted 10 boys, all Koran students from religious families

    One of the accusers described to the BBC an assault which he said took place in a public bath house when he was 12 years old.

    “I was so shocked I couldn’t understand what was going on,” he said. “I was so afraid to say anything because of the shame it would bring upon my name, but then I found out that there were so many other cases among his students. So I broke my silence.”

    But in this case, the victims are men and the [alleged] abuser was a member of the Supreme Council of the Koran.”

    • Replies: @Rehmat
    , @jacques sheete
  20. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks to Mr Pilger for his many years of work in trying to bring the plain facts before the eyes of those willing to see. We owe him much for his contributions. It must be frustrating to have fought uphill against the commanding heights of the corporate media for all these years. The article is very plainly clear and understandable as the truth often is. Yes, they certainly love war. And why shouldn’t they when they always stand to gain by it? It’s other people who pay the price whilst the elites swoop in later to scoop up the benefits. The anti-racism, women’s and gay rights angle just gives them moral cover; they’ll never live in a ghetto so what do they care? They’ve managed to co-opt those groups into their service anyway. They bring out the court feminists who’ll declare that the target of the month treats women badly and therefore must be attacked. Thus the bombs dropped are humanitarian ones.
    Looking at the sheer scale of the war criminality committed by the US-NATO and it’s gangster cohorts such as Britain and France, it’s enough to take one’s breath away. Millions have been killed, disabled, orphaned, terrorized and uprooted. Traditional ways of life going back hundreds of years have been destroyed as millions of residents of the afflicted areas have been turned into miserable, pauperized refugees. Then the selfsame countries have the effrontery to portray themselves as victims of terrorism for every pinprick they suffer even as they terrorize people around the world on a grand scale.
    We’ve gone over the body counts resulting from fascism and communism endlessly. But they’ve been gone for many years now. So who’s doing the killing now, right now as we speak? We are, that’s who. What’s the body count so far for the US-NATO-Britain-France axis?

    • Replies: @annamaria
  21. @Che Guava

    @ Che Guava
    You have your truth! Congratulations.

    “THE TRUTH is… anything you agree with and …faith makes it all possible”.

    https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2016/09/14/faith-the-human-o-s/

  22. Wally says: • Website
    @Rehmat

    And Goebbels was one of the first to speak of The Big Lie technique. Not used by NS Germany, but used by supremacist Jews via their dominance of the media.

    Say something frequently enough and people begin to believe it. That’s it.

    Here’s a perfect example:

    Supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869:

    The ’6,000,000 Jews’ lie and the laughing Mexican:

  23. Miro23 says:

    This article almost gets a double-take. Is Pilger talking about the USA or the Soviet Union?

    Didn’t the USSR also have an unelected ruling elite, an Empire it couldn’t afford, vast defense spending, a rubber stamp parliament and well trained journalists avoiding taboo subjects?

    Also, the USA’s 0,1% would make a good Nomenklatura since it’s based on patronage, “engineered by those with a fine education – Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Columbia” , it’s spectacularly rich and disconnected, and with better perks than the Soviet Union’s rather poor special shops, access to foreign currency, foreign travel and use of a state dacha.

    And, if the USSR was bankrupted by military spending and the need to keep up with Reagan’s Star Wars project, the USA is surely being bankrupted by $ 5 trillion of Middle East wars, with the difference that the USSR extracted every last Ruble from their citizens while the US kicks the can down the road, and fights 21st Century wars in 21st Century style (on credit) – so not sure how that’s going to work out. The “…vast national security machine that runs the United States, regardless of who is in the White House” is not going to stop spending.

    Consumer products were not the USSR’s strong point, and they’re not the USA’s strong point either. The USSR had rubbish factories but at least they had some, turning out bad quality products that were better than nothing. The USA maybe has one or two, but US citizens mostly have to understand the modern “service economy” while the Chinese do their manufacturing (at least everything that fits into a shipping container).

    There’s also the technical problem that bothered the USSR. While it struggled against Samizdat, Western TV broadcasts and the birth of the Digital Age, it discovered that propaganda only works if people believe it, and by the 1980′s Eastern Europeans had surely learnt to automatically discard information from government sources. With the US public also starting to enter the auto-discard phase there doesn’t seem to be much difference with the internet accelerating the whole process.

    At the end, the Soviet elite cleverly morphed into Capitalists and even improved their position, so if “America First” becomes the new common ground can the PC elite also do the Chameleon manoeuvre ?

  24. OutWest says:

    Journalists know the public can’t handle the truth. And they’re right. It’s a self-fulfilling observation. Besides, journalists aren’t interested in reporting facts; their objective is to improve society, i.e. the infamous but elusive “change” that’s being widely sought but little defined.

  25. annamaria says:
    @anonymous

    Yours is an indictment of M. Albright, H. Clinton, V. Nuland-Kagan, S. Power and other “proud humanitarians” soaked in the blood of the innocent:
    “They bring out the court feminists who’ll declare that the target of the month treats women badly and therefore must be attacked. Thus the bombs dropped are humanitarian ones.
    Looking at the sheer scale of the war criminality committed by the US-NATO and it’s gangster cohorts such as Britain and France, it’s enough to take one’s breath away. Millions have been killed, disabled, orphaned, terrorized and uprooted. Traditional ways of life going back hundreds of years have been destroyed as millions of residents of the afflicted areas have been turned into miserable, pauperized refugees.”

    The consequences of the US-NATO’ crimes have been slowly catching up with the “elites” (psychopathic plutocracy): Whether the horrors of massive contamination of water and soil by Fukushima’ damaged nuclear plant or the not-so-nice boulevards of Paris filled with uncontrolled migrants (that used to be controlled by Qaddafi), or the “pesticided” water and air, the “haves and more haves” and other “deciders” have been getting their just reward by spoiling their children’ and grandkids’ lives. As for ziocons, they are getting in Syria more than they asked for, by paving a road to a hot war with Russia.

  26. @Wally

    1960, myself a young GI stationed in Germany with a military band.
    I was, one balmy summer evening, with my german girlfriend in a live music dance club, frequented only by Germans and not a typical GI dive. Anyway while on the dancefloor, my girlfriend jolted towards myself and told me someone had grabbed her behind, I looked over her shoulder and there was a german guy grinning and waiting for some type of response from myself, which he then promptly recieved as I punched him in the face and he went down, out cold, against a cigarette vending machine on the wall next to the dance floor.
    Then sombody yelled : “Das ist ein Ami” : He’s an american, and they then proceed to beat me, all of them maybe thirty guys, they beat me half to death, my jaw was broken and dislocated, all of my ribs on on one side were broken, my teeth were literally kicked through my face and patches of hair were pulled out of my scalp. I found myself, covered with blood, on the sidewalk in front of the place,and naked except for my shorts,
    I had a car and I cannot remember to this day how I managed to retrieve the keys, but anyway I drove, half unconcious, to the army clinic and they took care of me.
    So perhaps you have a few more gruesome stories of american brutality towards Germans you might want to impart to us.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” Society member of forty-plus years.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Mithera
    , @denk
  27. @Kratoklastes

    It’s misleading to characterize propagandists as journalists who are not doing their job. You are among the misled. Propagandists and journalists are two different things. The corporate media do not employ journalists.

  28. Rehmat says:
    @Che Guava

    Just remember Goebbels had PhD while Netanyahu is only graduate from a US college – and his education expenses were paid by the US taxpayers.

  29. Rehmat says:
    @anon

    Thanks KIKE for the information.

    I didn’t know Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg was a Crypto Muslim. The good-old rabbi claims that while Catholic Church is every day in the news over child rape – no one dare to mention “JEWISH CHILD RAPE ASSEMBLYLINE!!

    https://rehmat1.com/2014/12/13/jewish-child-rape-assembly-line/

  30. Wally says: • Website
    @Authenticjazzman

    That was a really dumb tall tale. Don’t quit your day job.

    Mensa? Don’t make me laugh. If you were that smart you would already know what I’m about to show you.

    The Allies started bombing civilian targets long before the Germans were forced to retaliate.

    Now here’s your lesson for the day:

    http://www.revisionist.net/bombing-germany.html

    http://rense.com/general81/germm.htm

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @denk
    , @Authenticjazzman
  31. edNels says:
    @Che Guava

    Yeah that’s one thing that comes across with so many special examples of notoriety.

    this craze for Bernays. The recent Bernays craze is just another example of the media boosting the chosen.

    There was the BBC documentary: a Century of Self that exposed Ed Bernays in detail.
    Freud’s Nephew of all things, the mad Psychiatrist who saw sex perversion in every shadow… ! and your right about the Boosterism angle.

    Like was said somewhere, “It don’t matter if they say bad or good things about you, the main thing is they are talking about you.” All publicity is still Publicity!

    PS: Pilger makes good points, good sense, maybe he is idealist about solutions, if any are offered.

  32. Greg Bacon says: • Website
    @Kratoklastes

    Don’t forget ‘Mikey’ Gordon, Miller’s fellow shovel artist at the NYT who’s still there, last story I read, “Mikey’ was warning about Iran’s nukes. Yes, we all know where that story leads.

    Election results already on some American TV stations, ready to go on the next 9/11, 9 November 2016.

    http://82.221.129.208/basepaget3.html

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  33. Bernays’ Propaganda is available online here:

    http://www.historyisaweapon.org/defchtmlon1/bernprop.

    It is well worth careful reading.

    Goebbels had the book in an honored place on his bookshelf.

    Bernays invented the advertising tie-in, among many other devices.

    By commissioning translations of his uncle’s works he made him famous in the English-speaking world, then proceeded to use Freud-based theorems in his public relations and advertising. The translations, where first appear terms like Ego, Id, Superego and such, are quite bad. There is some indication Freud in his last years realized he’d been “took”.

    Bernays also manufactured a “civil war” in Guatemala to overthrow the duly elected president Arbenz for the Dulles Brothers and United Fruit.

  34. One of the more fascinating aspects of propaganda is that +/- 75 years later the vast majority of the people in the US seem to still believe most, if not all, of it. That includes the fact that most people seem to think that it was the Germans who were the masters of propaganda, and hardly realize that the Allies engaged in it at all. Now that’s some effective propaganda.

    An additional point is that most people in the US undoubtedly associate Goebbels with propaganda, but I bet not 1 in 100,000 could even recognize the name of Bernays and even fewer still Stalin’s propagandist, the much more colorful character, the “Red Millionaire,”Willi Munzengerg.

  35. @Greg Bacon

    What many of us may not recall is that this drumbeat about Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program began many years ago.

    Netanyahu is on record as early as 1992 claiming that Iran was “close” to having a nuke.

    Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning [~25]years ago.

    1992: Israeli member of parliament Binyamin Netanyahu predicts that Iran was “3 to 5 years” from having a nuclear weapon.

    1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres predicts an Iranian nuclear warhead by 1999 to French TV.

    1995: The New York Times quotes US and Israeli officials saying that Iran would have the bomb by 2000.

    1998: Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress that Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US by 2003.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/20/1992-breaking-news-netanyahu-says-iran-close-to-nuclear-weapon/

    Yeah, yeah, I know that VT is panned by some, but if that’s you, keep it.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  36. @anon

    You seem to have some inside info on the subject. Please enlighten us about Epstein and Weiner. Thanks.

    However, NYPD SVU sources told SuperStation95 that what they found is far worse than foreign cash or classified emails; they “came upon evidence of an international child smuggling and child sex ring” involving “very high profile people, candidates for high elected office, and current holders of high elected office at the federal and state levels, as well as other persons.” These officials allegedly did their child sex through a guy named Epstein who allegedly ran a “Lolita Express” plane service to take these high-elected officials to and from foreign countries to have sex with underage children!

    The SVU source also claims there is photographic and video evidence on Weiner’s laptop, showing these high elected officials, and certain people who are seeking election, engaged in sex acts with young children!

    This is not merely something allegedly involving the Clintons. Our source in SVU said it also allegedly involves “dozens of members of Congress, officials in the US Justice Department, federal judges, high-ranking military officers and many others in government; as well as very well known figures in the main stream media.”

    http://coyoteprime-runningcauseicantfly.blogspot.co.id/2016/10/why-huma-needed-10000-email-life.html

    • Replies: @anon
  37. Mithera says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Dumbest “Mensa Guy” ever.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  38. Rehmat says:
    @jacques sheete

    VT is a good source of information. It has some great writer especially Kevin Barrett, PhD. He has long been declared a 9/11 denier by the Organized Jewry.

    I stopped contributing to VT after its editor-in-chief supported the US-France-NATO invasion of Libya.

    Dr. Kevin Barrett, Professor of Islamic Studies at University of Wisconsin-Madison – is the founder of Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth . He was denied a tenure-track position at the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater, hounded by Rep. Steve Nass and 61 other pro-Israel state legislators, and handed a death threat by CNN’s Islamophobe Bill O’Reilly – all because of his political opinions and religious identity (he had converted to Islam in 1993).

    Dr. Barrett lives in Wisconsin with his wife, two sons and a dog named Salman Rushdie…..

    https://rehmat1.com/2011/04/05/kevin-barrett-im-911-denier/

  39. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    Epstein and Weiner are perverts but were not masquerading as religious scholars and gaining the confidence of parents by teaching their children the koran but instead sodomizing the 10 year old boys in their charge .But that is what the Iranian guy was doing . The hypocrisy is through the stratosphere on this one. In the apartheid state of Iran , homosexuality is a crime, a crime punishable by death , 7000 have been executed since 1980 by the state of Iran for the crime of homosexuality . And this guy at the highest levels of government and religion is spending his time sodomizing 10 year old boys.

    I suppose I should not be surprised though as this is the place that originated the term Baccha Bazzi , meaning boy play in Persian. Let the caveats and qualifications roll Jacques !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Replies: @annamaria
  40. The hypocrisy is through the stratosphere

    The hypocrisy is everywhere. And so are perverts. And so are fake religious folk.

    So if only “religious” pedophiles are to be dealt with here, (not prominent “leader” pedos), what about this guy’s reports?

    “Boys used to come and tell me that they go the ritual bath—they’re being sodomized,” the rabbi said. “Girls used to tell me that their father sleeps with them.” Faced with mounting reports of child molestation, Rosenberg founded a free hotline to inform his community about sexual predators, as well as how to get the police involved.”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/rebel-rabbi-exposes-child-molesters.html

    And could you comment on this?

    Israel Becoming a ‘Refuge for Pedophiles,’ Warns Advocate for Child Sex Abuse Victims
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.710150

    • Replies: @anon
  41. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/Taliban-use-honey-trap-boys-to-kill-Afghan-police/articleshow/52775123.cms

    The Taliban are using young boys as sex slaves to mount crippling insider attacks on police in southern Afghanistan, exploiting the pervasive practice of “bacha bazi” — paedophilic boy play — to infiltrate security ranks, multiple officials and survivors of such assaults said.

    the ancient custom of “bacha bazi” is still practiced across Afghanistan. Nowhere does it seem as entrenched as in the province of Uruzgan, where “bacha bereesh” — or boys without beards — widely become objects of lustful attraction for powerful police commanders.

    “The Taliban are sending boys — beautiful boys, handsome boys — to penetrate checkpoints and kill, drug and poison policemen,” said Ghulam Sakhmoved in a security reshuffle in April amid worsening violence.

    “They have figured out the biggest weakness of police forces — bacha bazi,” he said. i Rogh Lewanai, who was Uruzgan’s police chief until he was re

    The takeaway from this article is that bacha bazzi ( paedophilic boy play) is endemic across The Islamic Republic of Afghanistan and bordering Islamic Republic of Pakistan and Islamic Republic of Iran. It is such a huge problem that “the biggest weakness of the police forces is bacha bazzi ” .

    Did you read that right , the biggest weakness of the afghan police force is bacha bazzi. It is that endemic in the country that the biggest weakness of the national police force is a disposition toward paedophilic boy play . Simply astounding. Can you imagine that being said about any christian , jewish, buhddist or hindu country ??

    As and interesting aside, I wonder what Ramhole the Takkiyah troll prefers ?? Bacha Bazzi or Bacha Berressh ??

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  42. Government is the construct people created as the all seeing eye of god. It’s your idea of god watching you all the time. You own nothing, you purchase a car but beg permission to drive it lawfully. You never own anything. Watched all the time. Stand and wait to be told to cross the street. Government and it’s legions risen from the depths of everyone’s imaginations to control all and tell all what to do. Controlled by the virtuousness of the left.
    It was the left that destroyed the gold standard with the democrat Volker in the Treasury who convince Nixon to abandon the Gold window and institute price controls but also move France away from Gold. It was the left (democrats) who created the whole system. They convinced Nixon to install price controls, the new Bretton Woods (Petrol Dollar System).
    Volker was a progressive dem in the Treasury along with two or three others that were left over into the Nixon (Republican) presidency. Burns who was the chairman of the Fed was against closing the Gold window. Volker later became the chairman of the Federal Reserve. The lefts favorite Fed Man. Volder saved us, they would say. I wrote about it years ago but who am i?
    Jesus was the denominator while you are the numerator.

  43. denk says:
    @Wally

    Dont forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki !

  44. @Mithera

    ” Dumbest Mensa guy ever”.

    Okay just because you are not endowed with the intelligence necessary to comprehend my uncomplicated positions, you then resort to personal insulting.

    Obviously you have never contemplated the scenario that the intelligence deficit may be on your behalf.

    Why don’t you contact Mensa and inform them that they made a mistake, back in the seventies, when they awarded me membership, for which I still have my gold-embossed acceptance certificate.

    Otherwise : Uckfay Uuyay.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” Society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz artist.

  45. @Wally

    ” That was really a dumb tall tale”.

    Yeah sure I made it all up just to impress some freaky internet wierdos.

    Why don’t you advice the mensa society that their acceptance criteria is off-base, they then might demand that I return the Mensa acceptance certificate I have had since the early seventies.

    I really don’t give a fuck whether you believe me or not, as in my universe you do not even exist.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” Society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz artist.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  46. annamaria says:
    @anon

    Why don’t you comment on point instead of loitering the Unz Review comment section with personal abuses? Here are the facts that show the rot at the head of the US government. Yes, the names of Epstein and Dershowitz and Clinton are figured in the sordid affair (or you believe that these facts have anti-semitic bias):
    “The Jeffrey Epstein Affair Imperils Hillary Clinton’s Presidential Prospects:” http://observer.com/2015/03/the-jeffrey-epstein-affair-imperils-hillary-clintons-presidential-prospects/ “Here Is Pedophile Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein’s Little Black Book:” http://gawker.com/here-is-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epsteins-little-b-1681383992

    What does the US have to do with the cultural practices of a foreign country — Iran — that presents zero (0) threat to the US?
    Actually, it would be great if AIPAC finally registers FARA. But even more urgent is the illumination of the Israel-firsters’ influence on the US involvement in the genocidal wars in the Middle East.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @anon
  47. @anon

    “The Taliban are sending boys — beautiful boys, handsome boys — to penetrate checkpoints

    Was that pun intended?

    :)

    • Replies: @anon
  48. I really don’t give a fuck whether you believe me or not, as in my universe you do not even exist.

    Why on Earth would anyone reply to someone who doesn’t exist?

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @edNels
  49. denk says:

    John Pilger’s tale of two cities is yet another powerful indictment on murkkan hypocrisy.
    Needless to say, its just the tip of an iceberg. !

    Lately Washington is making a hue and cry on Philippines ‘war on drugs’,after PH prez Duterte refused to play ball in the Asia pivot boondoggle.

    ‘Extra judicial killings is amoral and illegit’, screamed uncle scam. !

    First off, murkka’s own ‘war on terror’ has already claimed the lives of tens of thousands innocent bystanders, whether its by dropping ‘daisy cutters’ or hellfire missiles fired from killer drones on ‘suspected terrorists hideouts’ like hospitals, wedding parties, funeral processions, etc,

    On Dueterte the PH prez, Kerry basically warned him that..
    *If you’r with us, you’d have a free hand to do whatever you like.
    If you need back up, cash, weapons, whatever, just ask !

    otoh,
    If you’r against us,
    I’d send the UN human rights council to come after your ass * !

    The sheer effrontry of it !
    Mind you, he actually said it openly. !

    Hey uncle scam,
    If this pass for ‘human rights’ you can take it back and stuff it up your ass !’

  50. @jacques sheete

    He/she does not exist in my universe as an “effect”, meaning he/she can think or say anything negative about myself, and it has no “effect” upon myself, it does not “affect” me, and therefore
    he/she is in concordence with the principle of duality existing and not existing at the same time.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member since 1973, and pro jazz artist.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  51. edNels says:
    @jacques sheete

    Solipsist. and a very smart one… strike that, there is but one. Two doesn’t exist yet.

  52. @Authenticjazzman

    Oh, kool! I’m glad that it’s more than someone (ahem!) being Mensatrual! :)

  53. Pelirrojo says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Pilger keeps saying things like “had journalists done their job”, then making reference to stuff like reporting honestly and truthfully, finding out when politicians are lying, actively trying to expose propaganda, and so forth – as if those things are related to the job of a ‘journalist’.

    He’s either bullshítting, or he’s an idiot. I don’t think he’s an idiot.

    You seem confused. When Mr Pilger refers to “journalism”, he is referring to the idealised, pure version of what journalism is supposed to be. He is referring to what he has personally dedicated his entire career to: conducting thorough and exhaustive research in order to expose injustice and shine the light of truth into the murky depths of how populations are controlled and subjugated by power. He is referring to what journalism should be and could be, rather than what it has become in reality.

    Your definition of “journalism” as it is practiced in the modern world is not wrong; but you are projecting your own definition of this term onto Mr Pilger’s use of it. This is how you have come to the erroneous conclusion that he is “bullshitting… or an idiot”. You’ve got the context wrong.

    I hope this helps you to understand.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  54. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    “The Taliban are sending boys — beautiful boys, handsome boys — to penetrate checkpoints

    Was that pun intended?

    I did not write the article but I have to believe that the pun was indeed intended ……………………….

  55. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    Yes, the names of Epstein and Dershowitz and Clinton are figured in the sordid affair (or you believe that these facts have anti-semitic bias):

    I never said the accusations against Epstein are anti-semitic in nature . On the contrary , he looks like a pedophile to me and I would be in favor of the harshest penalty the law allows to be proscribed to him if found guilty .

    But even more urgent is the illumination of the Israel-firsters’ influence on the US involvement in the genocidal wars in the Middle East.

    The most genocidal war going on in the region is the Sudan conflict. Of course its the only one in the region that has been called genocide . The leader of the country is wanted on a war crimes warrant at ICC. Omar Bashir the President of the Islamic Republic of Sudan and his Janjaweed militia have killed millions in South Sudan and Darfur . Furthermore the Janjaweed militia is tasked with systematic rape and ethnic cleansing of the black population in an attempt to arabize the population . I do not think the US has much involvement in this one .

    • Replies: @RobinG
  56. @Authenticjazzman

    Keep this up and people are going to get the impression that Mensa demands a double digit IQ for membership but does make exceptions.

  57. “Discussion on ABC News 31 comments
    Hungary: US Wants to Fill Europe With Muslim Migrants
    bilejones
    bilejones Sicc al-Burka vagy Hurka 5 months ago
    Removed

    The EU has a larger, more productive population than the US.
    The US is shrinking and increasingly less productive.
    The US controlled Banksters (Of which I was one for 25 years) have long looted third world countries through the IMF and World Bank, the second world countries- the BRIC’s, are also obviously targeted- see the coup in Brazil- the bullshit about Russia etc.

    Did the European fools really believe they were exempt?”

    This comment was “removed” i.e. censored.

    And the corporate media whores wonder why they are detested?

  58. RobinG says:
    @anon

    You’re just as sharp as FakeMensesMan. The current war in Sudan is a factional war in South Sudan (Black against Black and they’re probably all Christians, thanks to the feverish work of British missionaries in the last century). The minute they got their own country they started going at one another. The UN Peacekeepers have all they can do to protect themselves.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Authenticjazzman
  59. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @RobinG

    Denying the genocide,ethnic cleansing and systematic rape in Darfur perpetrated by Islamic Apartheid state of Sudan , aided by the the Islamic Janjawee militia and led by the war criminal Omar Bashir ? Well you are a fine Dhimmi , indeed.

  60. denk says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    I’ve been wondering for awhile, how come so many rape cases in Okinawa, Philippines by murkkan GI but never in Europe ?

    Now I know why, they send all their dregs to Asia , while the creams like Mensa guy are reserved for white Europe !
    I guess the Germans ought to be ‘honored’ by such favorable consideration ?

    Still, there must be many Germans who resent the jack boots of an occupation force, much like the Okinawans.
    I can imagine how they feel when they see a local lass bedding a cocky GI.
    When you whacked that German guy, you’r asking for it buddy !

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  61. Sam J. says:

    “…The suppression of the truth about Ukraine is one of the most complete news blackouts I can remember. The fascists who engineered the coup in Kiev are the same breed that backed the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941…”

    No the fascists are Jews. They’re running the show there.

    The Nazis invaded the USSR because Stalin was about to invade Germany. Read Suvorov.

    “ICEBREAKER Who Started the Second World War?” Viktor Suvorov

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/icebreaker.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebreaker_%28Suvorov%29

    “The Chief Culprit: Stalin’s Grand Design to Start World War II”

    I’m not giving the Nazis a pass. They should have never attacked Poland. The British have always balanced power on the continent. To expect any different from them that time was a mistake of Hitler’s.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  62. @denk

    Quoting Denk :

    “When you wacked that German guy you asked for it buddy”.

    And you, leftist pacifist that you are, would have probably told him that he could grab your ladies ass as many times as he pleased.

    Quoting Denk:

    ” Still there must be many Germans who resent the jack boots of an occupation”

    Yeah I guess so and this is why Germans are pulling for HRC more than any other nation on earth, a latest poll claiming that 93% of Germans want HRC to win, and this should thrill you as you are German yourself, and you are pulling for her to win.

    Fahren Sie zur Hölle.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” Society member of forty years-plus and pro jazz artist.

    • Replies: @denk
  63. @RobinG

    ” You are just as sharp as as FakeMensesMan”

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA .

    This is great humor. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    Why don’t you inform the Mensa society that they should revise their acceptance parameters as they are allowing “FakeMensesMen” who are not “Qualified”, according to your own personal standards, to become members.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” Society member since 1973, and pro jazz artist.

  64. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “God bless America”!

    I use to think that was a reasonable statement.

  65. Joe Wong says:
    @Wally

    You should say the ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ is questionable or exaggerated but not ‘scientifically impossible frauds’, because in the Nanking massacre the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese had massacred nearly 400,000 just with Samurai swords and bayonets only within few weeks; Nazi and its minions were the same breed as the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese, they were out doing each in atrocity to fill their wrecked egos, killing ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ in so many years from 1938-1945 is entirely possible, otherwise the Nazi and its minions would be a laughing stock by the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese.

    The staff in the forum.codoh.com is the same tricks used by the Japanese to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity, questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victims aggressively, …., it is the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.

  66. denk says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    So one night in the 60′s [HRC ???] you chose to barge into a joint full of alcohol charged Germans who didnt like murkkans [He's murkkan !] , much less when a gringo is hugging one of their women.

    They were itching to teach this swaggering gringo a lesson.
    You took the bait and got the daylight beaten outta you.
    Not very ‘Mensa’ like imho. !

    To then whine about it sixty yrs later as if it somehow excuses the atrocities like Dresden
    is even more hilarious. !

    As for your supposed gallantry….
    Hmmm, how do we know it isnt another tall tale from that land of B.S. ?

    ‘ this should thrill you as you are German yourself, and you are pulling for her to win.’

    more B.S.
    hehehe

  67. denk says:

    JOHN PILGER has his heart at the right place.

    More of it please !

  68. annamaria says:
    @Sam J.

    On the validity of your main source:
    “Viktor Suvorov (Russian: Ви́ктор Суво́ров, real name Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezun, Russian: Влади́мир Богда́нович Резу́н, born April 20, 1947 in Ukraine’s Cherkasy) is an amateur historian regularly accused of historical revisionism and a former Soviet military intelligence officer who defected to the United Kingdom.”
    Mr. Suvorov (Rezun), a Ukrainian who has usurped (in bad taste) the name of the famous Russian military genius Suvorov, is no Solzhenitsyn but rather an obvious opportunist.
    Agree that Ukraine is currently under the rule of Jewish plutocracy (supported by the Kaganate of State Dept.), which uses the neo-fascists to “pacify” any opposition to the junta – and to denigrate the country.
    Also, Poland was way ahead of the USSR in signing The German–Polish Non-Aggression Pact: the “treaty between Nazi Germany and the Second Polish Republic was signed on January 26, 1934.”

  69. @Pelirrojo

    This is the ‘no true Scotsman’ view of what ‘journalism’ means – I have been accused of the same trope when it comes to my view of what constitutes a ‘well trained economist’ (in my view, a ‘well trained economist’ must – a fortiori – reach the same analytical conclusions as I do: by definition you can’t be ‘well trained’ and reach any other conclusion. [NB I have some decent metrics that make my opinion more a 'research conclusion' than a pure opinion]).

    Think really hard about the total number of people in ‘the media’ who call themselves ‘journalist’, and then think about the number of people out of that sample who are like Pilger/Taibbi/Greenwald/Hersh/Margolis/Fisk/Mencken. As a proportion, it’s as near to zero as makes no odds. (I love all those folks, by the way: they deserve a better name than “journalist” – in the same way that there is a difference between a sexy woman and a prostitute).

    And without even looking at data, I would bet ten years’ salary that about 10x more soi-disant journalists from the prestigious “J-schools” fall into the “Miller-Blair” region of the taxonomy, than into the “Mencken-Taibbi” region.

    Let’s get back to the maths… the proportion of soi-disant ‘journalists’ who exhibit the characteristics that Pilger thinks are required to be a ‘journalist’, is as near to zero as makes no odds.

    As a stark example: the ‘tard who wrote the bilge on CSM about the “opening of Jesus’ Tomb” probably has ‘journalist’ on his business card… yet he was writing as if fictional characters have real-life burial places.

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