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The present arrives out of a past that we are too quick to forget, misremember, or enshroud in myth. Yet like it or not, the present is the product of past choices. Different decisions back then might have yielded very different outcomes in the here-and-now. Donald Trump ascended to the presidency as a consequence of myriad choices that Americans made (or had made for them) over the course of decades. Although few of those were made with Trump in mind, he is the result.

Where exactly did Trump come from? How are we to account for his noxious presence as commander-in-chief and putative Leader of the Free World? The explanations currently on offer are legion. Some blame the nefarious Steve Bannon, others Hillary Clinton and her lackluster campaign. Or perhaps the fault lies with the Bernie Sanders insurgency, which robbed Clinton of the momentum she needed to win, or with Little Marco, Lyin’ Ted, and Low Energy Jeb, and the other pathetic Republicans whom Trump trampled underfoot en route to claiming the nomination. Or perhaps the real villains are all those “deplorables” — the angry and ignorant white males whose disdain for immigrants, feminists, gays, and people of color Trump stoked and manipulated to great effect.

All such explanations, however, suggest that the relevant story began somewhere around June 2015 when Donald Trump astonished the political world by announcing his intention to seek the presidency. My aim here is to suggest that the origins of the real story are to be found much earlier. The conditions that enabled Trump to capture the presidency stemmed from acts of commission and omission that occurred well before he rode down that escalator at Trump Tower to offer his services to the nation.

Here’s the sad part: at each step along the way, other alternatives were available. Had those alternatives been exercised, a Trump presidency would have remained an absurd fantasy rather than becoming an absurd and dangerous reality. Like the Cuban Missile Crisis or the Vietnam War or 9/11, Trump qualifies as a completely avoidable catastrophe with roots deep in the past.

So who’s at fault? Ultimately, we — the American people — must accept a considerable share of the responsibility. This is one buck that can’t be passed.

Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda

So what follows is a review of roads taken (and not) ultimately leading to the demoralizing presidency of Donald Trump, along with a little speculation on how different choices might have resulted in a decidedly different present.

1989: The Fall of the Berlin Wall. As the Cold War wound down, members of Washington’s smart set, Republicans and Democrats alike, declared that the opportunities now presenting themselves went beyond the merely stupendous. Indeed, history itself had ended. With the United States as the planet’s sole superpower, liberal democratic capitalism was destined to prevail everywhere. There would be no way except the American Way. In fact, however, the passing of the Cold War should have occasioned a moment of reflection regarding the sundry mistakes and moral compromises that marred U.S. policy from the 1940s through the 1980s. Unfortunately, policy elites had no interest in second thoughts — and certainly not in remorse or contrition. In the 1990s, rampant victory disease fueled extraordinary hubris and a pattern of reckless behavior informed by an assumption that the world would ultimately conform to the wishes of the “indispensable nation.” In the years to come, an endless sequence of costly mishaps would ensue from Mogadishu to Mosul. When, in due time, Donald Trump announced his intention to dismantle the establishment that had presided over those failures, many Americans liked what he had to say, even if he spoke from a position of total ignorance.

1992: President H. Ross Perot. In the first post-Cold War presidential election, H. Ross Perot, a wealthy entrepreneur and political novice, mounted an independent challenge to the Republican and Democratic nominees. Both parties, Perot charged, were in bed with lobbyists, insiders, and special interests. Both were enthusiastically presiding over the deindustrialization of a once dominant American economy. The rich were getting richer, the national debt was growing, and ordinary citizens were getting screwed, he contended. His charges were not without merit. Yet when Perot lost, Washington was back to business as usual. We cannot know what a Perot presidency would have produced. Yet such a victory — the American electorate, in effect, repudiating the two established parties — might have created powerful incentives for both Republicans and Democrats to clean up their acts and find ways of governing more effectively. Had they done so, Trump’s later vow to “drain the swamp” of corruption and self-dealing would have been beside the point.

1993: Gays in the Military. Bill Clinton ran for the presidency as a centrist. Even so, once elected, he immediately announced his intention to remove restrictions on gays serving in the armed forces. This was, to put it mildly, anything but the act of a centrist. Outraged senior military officers made clear their intention to defy the new commander-in-chief. Although Clinton quickly backpedalled, the episode infuriated both cultural traditionalists and progressives. Within 20 years, a different generation of senior officers decided that gays serving in the military was no big deal. The issue instantly vanished. Yet the controversy left behind a residue of bitterness, especially on the right, that worked in Trump’s favor. Had the generals of 1993 suppressed their insubordinate inclinations, they might have ever so slightly turned down the heat on the culture wars. When the heat is high, it’s the tub-thumpers and noisy haranguers who benefit.

1998: The Lewinsky Scandal. When President Clinton’s sexual encounters with a young White House intern became known, Hillary Clinton stood by her man. The first lady’s steadfast loyalty helped her husband avoid being thrown out of office, providing cover for other feminists to continue supporting the president. Imagine if she had done otherwise, declaring his conduct unacceptable. The pressure on him to resign coming from those who had been among his strongest supporters would have been intense. This much is certain: had evidence of infidelity, compounded by prior allegations of abuse toward women, forced President Clinton from office, Donald Trump would never have had a chance of being elected president. In all likelihood he would never even have considered running.

2000: Cheney Picks a Veep. When George W. Bush wrapped up the Republican nomination in 2000, he tagged Dick Cheney, his father’s defense secretary, with the task of identifying a suitable running mate. After surveying the field, Cheney decided that he himself was the man for the job. As vice president, Cheney wasted no time in stacking the upper ranks of the administration with likeminded allies keen to wield American military muscle to smite “evil-doers” and expand America’s empire. Bush had promised, if elected, to pursue a “humble” foreign policy and forego nation-building. Had he not surrounded himself with Cheney and bellicose companions like Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz, he might possibly have stuck to that course, even after 9/11. Instead, urged on by the uber-hawks in his own administration, he embarked upon a misguided “Global War on Terrorism.” No single action played a greater role in paving the way for Donald Trump to become president.

2000: The Supremes Pick a President. If, in choosing a president on our behalf, the Supreme Court had given the nod to Al Gore instead of George Bush, might they have averted that never-ending, never-contracting war on terrorism? No doubt the 9/11 attacks would still have occurred and some U.S. military action would have ensued. But Gore did not share the obsession with Saddam Hussein that infected members of the Bush-Cheney axis. Arguably, a President Gore would have been less likely than President Bush to insist on invading a country that had played no part in the al-Qaeda conspiracy. Had the U.S. not embarked upon a preventive war against Iraq — had this Original Sin of the post-9/11 era not occurred — a Trump presidency would have been far less likely.

2003: Congress Rolls Over. To its perpetual disgrace, Congress assented to Bush’s demands to invade Iraq. It did so less because its members, including presidential aspirants like Senators Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, were persuaded that Iraq posed a threat to national security (it did not) than because they sought to insulate themselves from the political consequences of opposing a president hell-bent on war. For decades, Congress had allowed presidents to encroach upon its constitutional responsibility to declare war, but this would be the last straw. Supine legislators became complicit in a disaster that to this day continues to unfold. A Congress with gumption might have averted that disaster, recovered its cojones, and left us with a legislative branch willing and able to fulfill its constitutional responsibilities.

2003: GM Kills the EV1 Electric Automobile. In the 1990s, General Motors produced the first viable electric car. Drivers loved it, but GM doubted its potential profitability. Shareholders were more likely to make money if the company focused on manufacturing vehicles powered by gasoline engines. So in 2003, GM executives killed the EV1. The effect was to postpone by at least a decade the development of a mass-produced electric car. Had GM persisted, it’s just possible that the EV1 might have jump-started the transition to a post-fossil fuel economy and offered humanity a leg up on climate change. Instead, politicians spent years bickering about whether climate change was even real. More than a few Republicans made political hay by denouncing those waging a “war on coal” or inhibiting crucially needed oil exploration — bogus charges that Trump adroitly exploited for his own purposes. Perhaps if the EV1 had fulfilled its potential, anyone mounting a presidential campaign while denouncing global warming as a hoax would have been laughed out of town instead of capturing the White House.

2009: Obama Bails Out Wall Street. President Obama entered the Oval Office with the U.S. economy in free-fall. His administration took prompt action to prevent systemic collapse — that is, it bailed out Wall Street. Meanwhile the little guy got clobbered, with millions of Americans losing their jobs and homes. A billionaire complaining about the system being “rigged” might otherwise have tested the outer limits of irony, but for Donald Trump the government’s handling of the Great Recession was a gift from the gods.

2010: Presidential Twitter Accounts. Huge numbers of Americans have willingly surrendered their lives to social media. I’m guessing that there are more vegans and curling aficionados in the United States today than there are non-subscribers to Facebook. So it was perhaps inevitable that politicians would hoist themselves onto the social media bandwagon, keen to use direct, unmediated electronic communications as a way of mobilizing their followers. Yet the resulting impact on American politics has been entirely negative. The space available for reasoned exchanges has shrunk. Political discourse has become increasingly corrosive, its apparent purpose less to inform than to obfuscate, trivialize, and create division. This development was probably inevitable and will no doubt prove irreversible. Even so, it was not inevitable that the presidency itself should succumb to this phenomenon. In 2010, when Barack Obama “made history” by sending the first presidential tweet, it was as if the Pope had begun spending his idle hours hanging out at some corner saloon. Even if only in barely measurable increments, the dignity and decorum associated with the presidency began to fade and with it the assumption that crude or boorish behavior would automatically disqualify someone for high office. Donald Trump, a first-class boor and maestro of Twitter, was quick to take notice.

2010: Mitch McConnell Chooses Party Over Country. With the nation still in the midst of a devastating economic crisis, Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell declared on behalf of his party that the denial of a second term to President Obama was “the single most important thing we want to achieve.” To hell with the country, the GOP wanted Obama gone. McConnell’s troops fell obediently into line and the last vestiges of bipartisanship disappeared from Washington. Of course, the president won reelection in 2012 anyway, but in effect McConnell refused to recognize the result. So when Obama exercised a president’s prerogative to nominate someone to fill a Supreme Court vacancy, McConnell ensured that the nominee would not even receive the courtesy of a hearing. An environment rife with hyper-partisanship presented the perfect situation for a political outsider skilled in the “art of the deal” to offer himself as the antidote to persistent gridlock. Congratulations, Mitch! You won after all!

And So…?

It’s time to look in the mirror, folks. Blaming Trump for being Trump simply won’t do. Like Lenin or Franco or Perón or dozens of other demagogues, Trump merely seized the opportunity that presented itself. Our president is a product and beneficiary of several decades worth of vainglory, cynicism, epic folly, political cowardice, missed opportunities, and a public not given to paying attention. In present-day Washington, no one can deny that the chickens have come home to roost. The biggest fowl of them all has taken up residence in the White House and, in a very real sense, we all put him there.

Andrew Bacevich, a TomDispatch regular, is the author, most recently, of America’s War for the Greater Middle East: A Military History.

(Republished from TomDispatch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. mb says: • Website

    Well, we are getting closer, but Mr. B still has got a ways to go.
    IOW we repeats ourself, since the last time he discussed Ronald Grump’s presidency over at the AmConservative, TPTB didn’t deign to prints our comments (sic).

    The Monster Drumpftruck crushed the opposition because people are tired of one, political correctness – ie. lying – along with the economy, the MidEast wars and immigration.
    Of course whether any thing will come of those campaign positions is a very different question.

    But to return to the post, there is no mention that basically the Dims and the Repugs are socialists or one stripe or another who respectively advocate more big govt. warfare or welfare, if not both, the constitution not withstanding.

    IOW the Council for Foreign Relations is running the clown show and it’s all ice cream, though of different flavors. Which is again, why “conservatives” don’t get it, never mind the “Nevertrumpers”.

    Yeah, they’re getting better, but the brass ring still eludes their grasp in that for one, the deep sixing of Ron “The Real Reagan” Paul’s two presidential campaigns didn’t make the short list above.

    So let’s say a C+. The post starts off well with a glimmer of understanding that the Repugs are part of the problem, but the radical and full extent of the problem still leaves much to be desired in exposition and analysis. Hopefully the next will help rectify matters and bring the gentleman’s grade up a bit.

    cheers

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    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    An article like this illustrates how leftards aren't allies, even when they seem willing to share some of the same criticisms of government actions with normal people. Andy writes an article like this one and it turns out to be just another whine Like Hillary Clinton's over the result of the 2016 election.

    Andy needs to realize that the election of Trump wasn't a catastrophe. Those of us who despise the Clintons and are glad to have avoided another Clinton co-presidency can be dissatisfied with Trump and what he has been doing or failing to do, without wailing that he's the second coming of the antichrist.

    A leftard can't see it that way. My disagreement with libertarians like Lew Rockwell who give an undue amount of credit to leftist sites like Tomdispatch and others on the basis that they are critical of whatever war is currently being conducted by Washington is that they ignore the observations of one of their icons, Murray Rothbard. Rothbard observed that the anti-Vietnam war leftists could never be allies and it was mainly because they were leftists.
    , @tjm
    Great comment, DC is a dog and pony show put on by those who own us.

    Hollywood is a took being used to destroy America, it is not liberal, it IS zionist, marxist

    Wall Street is where much of the money that funds the anti American cabal is funded.

    9/11 was the culmination of the Zionist coup, started with Hollywood Reagan, and Bill Clinton, and Trump is it's completion.

    Higher education is a slave to endowments, again Zionists, who push divisive fascist marxism...

    Trump is 100% owned by those same zionist rulers, like the rest of the actors in washington.
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  2. Beckow says:

    Those who hate Trump, will hate Trump. And very little of what they write will not be coloured by the hatred.

    The analysis – although based on a sound historical premise – is off by miles. It focuses on personalities and avoids mentioning the systemic failures by Western institutions, from media to academia, from Hollywood to UN. Trump is not a revolutionary, and he is not the devil. He simply represents an attempt late in a systemic downward cycle to correct few excesses and buy some time. The beneficiaries of the excess policies – cheap labor businesses, ethnic castes, trans-gender professionals, open border fanatics, military extremists – are fighting tooth and nail to keep any change from happening. They are at this point beyond hysteria, they sense the goodies might be slipping from their hands (it is mostly about their jobs and careers).

    Two fundamental omissions from the analysis are: in domestic policies the devastating impact of affirmative action on the next generation of young, white males. And in foreign policy the equally devastating impact of Bill Clinton’s attack on Serbia (to create a ‘Muslim’ Kosovo statelet in Europe) had on the international law and norms. Iraq inevitably followed Serbia.

    Why are these points left out? Because they would make the neo-liberal Democrats look bad? Right, Gore as president, that would had fixed it all…

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    • Agree: Kiza, yurivku, CanSpeccy
    • Replies: @SMK
    A truly weird article. Trump would be president if most of what he mentions never happened. The electric car?! The defeat of Al Gore? Trump won the Republican nomination and defeated Hillary Clinton because of massive Third-World immigration, an invasion of legal and illegal aliens that has transformed the U.S. from a nation that was almost 90% white in 1965 to one that is now only 62% white and in which whites will soon be a minority. If not for Muslim immigration, there would have been no 9-11 and no wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which it appears may never end as long as neocons and neo-liberals and their malign "invade-the-world/Invite-the-world" ideology is regnant and large3ly unopposed. No Muslims, no Muslim terrorism. Trump is president, rather than Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton, because he promised to build a wall on the Mexican border, deport illegal aliens, end Muslim immigration, and "put America first," above "globalism."
    , @tjm
    Trump is owned by the zionists bankers, you know the ones who funded his campaign and bailed out his business...

    I don't hate any politicians, but I know they are ALL actors, and can be replaced in a second if they step out of line, because TOO many idiots can't see the truth right in front of their face, instead they fall for partisan distractions by our zionist masters.
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  3. CK says:

    In the modern vernacular, losers gonna hate. That the historian cherry picks is not surprising; that he cherry picks badly is a bit sad.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete

    That the historian cherry picks is not surprising; that he cherry picks badly is a bit sad.
     
    Yeah, we know, right?

    How's about them "holocausters" who've been pulling "history" outta their tuschies for centuries?

    Talk about cherry picking...is there any history beyond "the" holocaust? Sad? Disgusting and nauseating, too.
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  4. deej says:

    Mr B. has missed the entire point of Trump. It’s the economy stupid. Trump has correctly identified the structural dismantling of the US economy in the interest of an oligarchy as our main problem. Everything else is a footnote to this fact including war policy. The US has given away more wealth in a shorter period of time than any other nation in history. The fact that we gave it away (to make rich people richer) to a communist slave state (still is politically) across the globe is the tragic joke. As such Trump has shown himself more strategically intelligent than Mr. B. The fact that Trump is a vulgarian is a small price to pay.

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    • Replies: @animalogic
    "Trump has correctly identified the structural dismantling of the US economy in the interest of an oligarchy as our main problem. "
    In the interests of the US oligarchy. His "tax plan" is more such dismantling. Unless, of course you still believe in "trickle down" ( golden showers, courtesy of Elites)
    , @Moi
    Nope, the elephant in the room is that America, in a period of less than 50 years, went from being about 80 percent white to 60 percent white. What used to be America no longer exists because its leaders sold it out.
    , @Truth

    Trump has correctly identified the structural dismantling of the US economy in the interest of an oligarchy as our main problem.
     
    LOL, yes I was watching ESPN yesterday, and somehow Michael Jordan correctly identified that "basketball" involved putting an inflated leather sphere through a metal ring.
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  5. Art Deco says:

    Dr. Bacevich has mistaken his own personal shticks for concerns of ordinary people (and, while we’re at it, putting Richard Cheney on the Republican ticket was George W. Bush’s initiative, not Cheney’s). This article is of very little value.

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  6. Bacevich didn’t write a word about the Open Borders fetish of both parties from which Trump dissented, or seemed to. Not a word. And this played no small part in Trump winning the GOP nomination and the election.

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    • Replies: @Randal
    That was my first reaction to it, as well.

    Bacevic is a man who has had a lot of interesting and useful stuff to say about US foreign policy overall, over the years, but he's very obvious a terminal victim of Trump Derangement Syndrome, and absolutely (on the evidence of this piece alone) determined to keep his head firmly in the sand about mass immigration and all the unavoidably related, but oh so uncomfortable for the respectable, issues of nation, race, ethnicity, identity and culture.

    As such, since he's chosen to wilfully deny the most urgent and most dangerous problems facing his and other nations, he has made himself irrelevant. It's kind of a diagnosis by example of all the flaws of The American Conservative, where I think Bacevic probably feels very much at home.

    And for all Trump's flaws, he is at least not irrelevant, even if it has turned out that he changes little in terms of the long term bipartisan idiocy of US foreign policy.
    , @tjm
    All true, but it was a total fake.

    American's greatest sin, is their inability to see how controlled we truly are.

    Obama was painted as a "peace President/Constitutional scholar", and he was neither.

    They painted Trump as a "America firster/anti immigrant, anti war", again a total head fake:

    Trump will grant amnesty, build no wall, and has already INCREASED our presence in the MI, and support for Saudi Arabia and Israel, America's true enemies.

    Trump is a product of Jew York City, the parasite of America.
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  7. Bush had promised, if elected, to pursue a “humble” foreign policy and forego nation-building.

    I had always assumed that was just an out-and-out lie, like the “they envy us for our freedoms” line.

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    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    Bacevich also ignores the fact that Obama ran as a "peace candidate", and was even nominated by DNC operatives for the Nobel Peace Prize before he even became president. He gives more weight to the decision of GM to dump their unsellable electric car.

    Sure, Andy, "people loved it" but somehow GM couldn't manage to sell enough of them to justify production. It was an economic decision, not some vast right wing conspiracy to keep using petroleum.
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  8. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Like Lenin or Franco or Perón or dozens of other demagogues, Trump

    It’s absurd to put Trump into the same sentence as those others. Author apparently doesn’t like Trump yet never specifies exactly what policies of his he doesn’t like but just relies on name calling.
    Summary of article: ‘Today is a product of all previous yesterdays’. This isn’t exactly a startlingly new concept. OK, all us low level munchkin Americans are ultimately responsible for everything bad. Funny, no matter who one votes for we get the same neo-con wars but we’re still responsible.

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    • Replies: @Wyatt Pendleton

    Funny, no matter who one votes for we get the same neo-con wars but we’re still responsible.
     
    Until you're willing to sacrifice and endure a Second Revolutionary War and turn Wash DC and the MIC into a river of blood by butchering them all and stopping their War Machine, then yes, each and every American IS responsible for doing nothing.
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  9. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Shut the fuck up Bacevich. American voters chose Trump. And he’s a great President. Maybe the best ever.

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    • Replies: @Ben_C

    American voters chose Trump. And he’s a great President. Maybe the best ever.
     
    If true, that's certainly a grim reality...
    , @Alden
    Franco was the greatest soldier and head of state of the 20 th century. He whipped a communist army and sent the survivors back to Russia. And unlike Finland, he didn’t compromise.

    He whipped the communists and will always be hated and vilified for that.

    Too bad Trump can’t do to the enemies of White America what Franco did to the enemies of Spain and western civilization.

    I agree that the article is garbage. Such an intellectual, a hop skip and jump through the last 40 years.
    , @bluedog
    Sure he is and pigs fly ,it would be interesting to see just what kind of a yardstick you use to make such a foolish statement, when his policies are little different than the rest of the sorry lot,Syria Iran Russia Afghanistan comes to mind, while he spends ever more money on the military/industrial group while increasing the debt by a trillion or two, or perhaps its simply you get what you vote for, or the fact that the average American has been dumbed down to the point that he simply can't see beyond the two party system where two makes one, jimbojones is a prime example of it ,your pick...
    , @Chris Mallory
    The greatest president will always be William Henry Harrison. Would that more politicians follow his example.
    , @tjm
    Chump was handed the Presidency by our zionist masters.

    The zionists own the media, wall street, advertising, banking, and Washington, yet you want us to think Trump got by all those gate keepers, even though his biggest supporter was Sheldon freaking Adleson, arch zionist.

    Nonsense, this is all just more Zionist jew manipulation.
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  10. Ben_C says:
    @Anonymous
    Shut the fuck up Bacevich. American voters chose Trump. And he’s a great President. Maybe the best ever.

    American voters chose Trump. And he’s a great President. Maybe the best ever.

    If true, that’s certainly a grim reality…

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    • Replies: @bahmi
    Lots of alternate bloggers/writers insist Trump is the end of the world, the beginning of our total peonage. Forgetting the consequences of having the Witch in the WH is such a convenient dodge. 2 people ran for President, one won. Reasonable writers that think that the sun rises and sets only on Trump are sadly mistaken. We must always, always realize the had Clinton become POTUS, we'd be in the most dire straits humanly possible. As in, the end of our nation and the beginning of our bondage. The witch would delight in breaking Mao's world record for kills and every whining Trump hater knows this but conveniently fails to mention it. We won't let them forget, however. Never, ever.
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  11. . His charges were not without merit. Yet when Perot lost, Washington was back to business as usual. We cannot know what a Perot presidency would have produced.

    Here is the reality about American voters. 99% of American voter never knew that Perot existed.
    The remaining1% thought that Perot was a Frenchman.

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    • Replies: @Sam J.
    "...99% of American voter never knew that Perot existed..."

    Your numbers are wrong as he got more than 1% of the vote. If he got more than 1% of the vote then it's obvious that more than 1% knew who he was.
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  12. How about Trump just ran a strong campaign with a strong platform against a weak candidate with a weak platform? And the only reason Trump didn’t win biglier was the unprecedented concentration and breadth of forces arrayed against him – almost the entire media, significant proportions of the Republican party, the entire Democratic party, significant elements of the intelligence agencies, etc.

    One can divide presidential policy into economic policy, foreign policy, and cultural policy.
    - Trump’s economic policy is a great success. Obama did not make this economy – Trump did. I can tell you why – because as a real builder of real things, Trump realizes that the economy is about making stuff. (For a true “service economy” look no further than Zimbabwe or Bangladesh.) And he has been promoting production from the get-go.
    - Trump’s foreign policy is tolerable. The destruction of ISIS and salvation of Syria are great achievements. Beyond that, Trump hasn’t started new wars, which is good.
    - On the cultural front, Trump is providing welcome respite from, and a correction to, the topsy-turby world of murderous thuggish gentle giants, failed green utopianism exemplified by Solyndra, global warming alarmism, transgederism mania, and so on.

    So yeah – Trump won because he was a good candidate with a good platform. And he is doing great.

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    • Replies: @c matt
    Good candidate with a good platform may be too strong, but better candidate with a better platform still does it. It's all relative, as Einstein would say.

    He is doing ok. Given the forces arrayed against him, he is doing great. Still a bit concerned he is being neoconned on foreign policy.
    , @Naerughiazk
    The idea that Trump made this economy is a farce. Other than the fact that some got all excited that Trump was POTUS other than Hiliary how did Trump, what did he do to change the economy in such a short time frame? irrational exuberance is all it is.

    Like dropping a few regulations and passing a tax bill a month a go suddenly changed everything.

    He claims credit for a low unemployment rate and doesn't even give lip service to the 96 million Americans who have withdraw from the work force, he lies like Obama and all the pols do.

    Campaign Trump and POTUS Trump are two different critters and thank god Hiliary isn't POTUS.

    , @tjm
    What a load of crap:

    So, Trump can take credit, why, because of a tax system that just started.

    AND WHAT ECONOMY?! Wall Street, service jobs mean NOTHING!

    Foreign policy, increasing military in Afghanistan, MAKING JERUSALEM THE CAPITAL OF ISRAEL, WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And a tweeting idiot, with friends like Trump white Americans don't need enemies.

    Furthermore, TRUMP CONTINUES Obama's catch and release, of illegals, CHUMP did not KILL DACA like he promised, and will likely grant amnesty

    And Chump appointed Nikki Haley to the UN, a zionist traitor, and a Cabinet filled with Zionists...
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  13. Biff says:

    How are we to account for his noxious presence as commander-in-chief and putative Leader of the Free World?

    Free world? When you find such a place let me know. I’m quite interested in checking it out.

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    • Replies: @Sparrowhawk6
    One of the most pointed and astute comments I have ever seen. Bravo! Thank you Sir.
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  14. Ben_C says:

    No offense, but Trump supporters who think he his some sort of panacea might as well shoot themselves in the face…

    What have been his deliverables? A tax policy virtually no one fully understands…including Mr.Trump himself, I’m sure…

    But anyway… Let’s move the embassy in so-called “Israel” from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.. Great Idea….

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    It would take a Henry 8 and Thomas Cromwell to undo the damage the liberals have done to White Americans since 1956.

    I’m just enjoying the angst and fury of the Trump haters. Don’t forget White commenters on Unz; the same people who hate Trump hate us.
    , @Wally
    "A tax policy virtually no one fully understands…"

    Speak for yourself.

    Trump tax cuts: 90% Of Workers Likely To See More Money In Paycheck Next Month http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/01/12/paycheck-changes-new-tax-law-more-money/

    Public Radio Admits: Trump Tax Cut Good for Middle & Low Income in California
    http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/01/28/public-radio-admits-trump-tax-cut-best-for-middle-low-income/

    Assoc. Press Admits: Trump Has Kept Most of His Promises
    https://www.prisonplanet.com/ap-admits-trump-has-kept-most-of-his-promises.html

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  15. Alden says:
    @Anonymous
    Shut the fuck up Bacevich. American voters chose Trump. And he’s a great President. Maybe the best ever.

    Franco was the greatest soldier and head of state of the 20 th century. He whipped a communist army and sent the survivors back to Russia. And unlike Finland, he didn’t compromise.

    He whipped the communists and will always be hated and vilified for that.

    Too bad Trump can’t do to the enemies of White America what Franco did to the enemies of Spain and western civilization.

    I agree that the article is garbage. Such an intellectual, a hop skip and jump through the last 40 years.

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    Lol, Finland never even was in a position to "compromise".
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Stop spewing BS. It was German shtukas that dusted off communists from Spain.
    Spain was practicing ground for German air force.
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  16. This was written before SOTU and so is clearly irrelevant.

    Trump will wring the swamp’s neck like a chicken

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  17. Alden says:
    @Ben_C
    No offense, but Trump supporters who think he his some sort of panacea might as well shoot themselves in the face...

    What have been his deliverables? A tax policy virtually no one fully understands...including Mr.Trump himself, I'm sure...

    But anyway... Let's move the embassy in so-called "Israel" from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.. Great Idea....

    It would take a Henry 8 and Thomas Cromwell to undo the damage the liberals have done to White Americans since 1956.

    I’m just enjoying the angst and fury of the Trump haters. Don’t forget White commenters on Unz; the same people who hate Trump hate us.

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    I smell a zionist shill

    I am just amazed you did not call those who question Chump, a Hiltary supporter.

    Chump is a Zionist paid whore, obviously.
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  18. Here we must drastically part ways — not much new there.i take full responsibility for my vote. As such I am willing to defend it. I am also willing and never have been shy about expressing my dissent, where I dissented.

    I have my issues – but bemoaning a sky falling that isn’t is not one of them. no President has had as much opposition since the civil war in my view. I can’t think of single media outlet that i trust on issues in general, much less get the straight story on this President. he seems content to abandon several issues i thought were nonnegotiable and I will admit, a deep sense of betrayal.

    But this is the man I voted for. I can only hope that he returns to the stated goals. He actually leads as opposed to what is a feeling that he is being led. I am not sure how one decides to adopt an agenda that his campaign defeated and bring on board the people responsible for the agenda you contended was damaging to the country, that did not bode well for the agenda I voted for.

    But his situational style has left nothing sacred to stand on — that’s one of the ways situational leaders think and operate. What is disconcerting is that the ship is headed in a direction I was sure had already proven — the wrong way.

    As a voter for this Pres. and as a supporter, I will have to live and work with my choice, even if that means pulling my hair out along the way.

    My frustrations do not ignore the enormous effort it took to see the campaign to its end. yet, it’s was always possible that winning was always going to be easier than actually doing the job. Frankly, I don’t think anyone is more surprised than he is to have won. He may yet be overwhelmed by that fact.

    As for touting the economy — I am very dubious just how healthy the economy is. it’s employment, wages, wage increases, hours of employment, imports and always for me — real GDP as to actual goods sold, not what we count in the car lot. Also deeply troubling is the size of the economy that is based on govt expenditures — that’s not growth — that’s recirculating taxes 9I think — central planning).

    I own lock stock and barrel my choice. And unless he engages in violations of the law — I will tend to support him, despite our differences. That’s the mind of a coach, facilitator, instructor and business owner. Someday I will actually make money. but quitting because my choice is steering off course – that’s a last of the last of options.

    I must consider where would a bounty of people be had I threw up my hands because they went astray. As for what;s in it for me. I expect a check from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey . . . any day now — israel . . . that’s really funny.

    Laugh.

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    I will tend to support him, despite our differences. That’s the mind of a coach, facilitator, instructor and business owner.
     
    More like the mind of a man who doesn't know when to stop digging his own hole.
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  19. bluedog says:
    @Anonymous
    Shut the fuck up Bacevich. American voters chose Trump. And he’s a great President. Maybe the best ever.

    Sure he is and pigs fly ,it would be interesting to see just what kind of a yardstick you use to make such a foolish statement, when his policies are little different than the rest of the sorry lot,Syria Iran Russia Afghanistan comes to mind, while he spends ever more money on the military/industrial group while increasing the debt by a trillion or two, or perhaps its simply you get what you vote for, or the fact that the average American has been dumbed down to the point that he simply can’t see beyond the two party system where two makes one, jimbojones is a prime example of it ,your pick…

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  20. It was us, Sixty million deplorables gave you Trump. Trump knows we exist and he does not hate us. Best of all he is not a smug liberal who has been lobotomized by academia. Neither is he a Cuck like the gang of losers who opposed him in the primary. The most satisfying aspect of his victory is that both Democrats and Republicans lost.

    Trump ain’t much but he’s all we’ve got. His enemies are my enemies. You might bring Trump down. But sixty million deplorables will remain. Thanks to Trump we know who we are. Thanks to rhetoric from the left we know we are hated and are being systematically “replaced”. We have every reason to hang together. When/if we find leadership (Trump is not a leader) you will find it is us and not Trump who are your problem.

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    Your Quote:
    Best of all he is not a smug liberal who has been lobotomized by academia.

    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

    Your statement is not only best ever on this website.

    Your statement is the statement for 21st century.

    My absolute admiration to you
    , @jacques sheete

    Best of all he is not a smug liberal who has been lobotomized by academia.
     
    Instead he's a smug Izzy-firster, lobotomized by the likes of Adelson and Netanyahoo. No better than any other smug doofus.
    , @tjm
    Trump is a wolf in sheep's clothing, he is owned by the zionist bankers, obviously
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  21. Wally says: • Website
    @Ben_C
    No offense, but Trump supporters who think he his some sort of panacea might as well shoot themselves in the face...

    What have been his deliverables? A tax policy virtually no one fully understands...including Mr.Trump himself, I'm sure...

    But anyway... Let's move the embassy in so-called "Israel" from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.. Great Idea....

    “A tax policy virtually no one fully understands…”

    Speak for yourself.

    Trump tax cuts: 90% Of Workers Likely To See More Money In Paycheck Next Month http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/01/12/paycheck-changes-new-tax-law-more-money/

    Public Radio Admits: Trump Tax Cut Good for Middle & Low Income in California

    http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/01/28/public-radio-admits-trump-tax-cut-best-for-middle-low-income/

    Assoc. Press Admits: Trump Has Kept Most of His Promises

    https://www.prisonplanet.com/ap-admits-trump-has-kept-most-of-his-promises.html

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    BULL SHIT

    Associated Press lies, and does NPR, all lies, yet you quote them?!


    Oh yes, NPR who says we have NO inflation!

    Trump was elected to deal with immigration and make peace with Russia, and get us out of wars.

    Trump deports LESS THAN OBAMA! Trump does not kill DACA, but kicks it to Congress, so congress will give him a bill to grant amnesty.

    Trump deepens the swamp, he puts Zionist traitor Nikki Haley into the UN?!

    Trump tweets like a 15 year old girl, embarrassing the right who supports him.


    TRUMP IS A ZIONIST HACK< HE IS A PUPPET, PERIOD!
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  22. Isn’t Mr.Trump an effort of The Normal America to turn things back where they belong to? America is for a too long time a slave of The Globalists, as well as The American People.

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  23. 22pp22 says:

    I come to unz.com to read things I wouldn’t find in the Guardian or the NYT.

    MAGA
    Build the wall!

    And I am not American.

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  24. @deej
    Mr B. has missed the entire point of Trump. It's the economy stupid. Trump has correctly identified the structural dismantling of the US economy in the interest of an oligarchy as our main problem. Everything else is a footnote to this fact including war policy. The US has given away more wealth in a shorter period of time than any other nation in history. The fact that we gave it away (to make rich people richer) to a communist slave state (still is politically) across the globe is the tragic joke. As such Trump has shown himself more strategically intelligent than Mr. B. The fact that Trump is a vulgarian is a small price to pay.

    “Trump has correctly identified the structural dismantling of the US economy in the interest of an oligarchy as our main problem. ”
    In the interests of the US oligarchy. His “tax plan” is more such dismantling. Unless, of course you still believe in “trickle down” ( golden showers, courtesy of Elites)

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    "His “tax plan” is more such dismantling."

    Really?

    Give us proof of what you claim.

    7 Amazing Facts About Trump’s Economy Media Don’t Want You to Know
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/19/nolte-7-facts-trumps-economy-media-dont-want-know/

    Trump tax cuts: 90% Of Workers Likely To See More Money In Paycheck Next Month
    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/01/12/paycheck-changes-new-tax-law-more-money/

    Public Radio Admits: Trump Tax Cut Good for Middle & Low Income in California http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/01/28/public-radio-admits-trump-tax-cut-best-for-middle-low-income/

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  25. mcohen says:

    Donald trump later in life switched professions and became a magician.His show was so well regarded that it drew everyone’s attention,who could not but help watch his sleigh of hand on twitter with utter fascination.
    Meanwhile behind the scenes snow white and the 7 dwarves worked hard at digging up gold,while the 3 musketeers did a little change management.

    Ho ho ho and away we go.

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  26. utu says:

    Bacevich is a sleepwalker. No curiosity, no clues.

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  27. Nobody here vote for what this previous presidents and politicians did but for what the promese will do every time.
    You must add that when we the american people get to know this corrupts and demagogues individuals they where already chosen in a rigged process.
    What is lacking here from the people is an stronger fisical reaction against the elite that deliver us to be pillage by everybody from the insurance companies to the “kings”of the midle east to the trial lawywers,etc etc etc.
    It will take a Mao to clean this elite.

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    Exactly,

    Too many buy into the right vs left narrative, which should be an obvious lie.

    Trump came from JEW YORK CITY, he backed by the biggest Zionists and has surrounded himself with Zionists!

    Zionists HATE AMERICA!!!!!!

    Trump will grant AMNESTY

    Trump wants to give the military control of the PENTAGON?!

    Trump, like Obama, Clinton, Bush and Reagan are all puppets, each traitors in their own right, but Trump may surpass them all, we will see.
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  28. I like Trump and I’m glad he’s president.

    Joe

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  29. I stopped at the comment about “ignorant, angry white males.” If Bracevich doesn’t see the problems with undemocratic demographic change that benefits few and harms many, our current anti-white atmosphere that includes the injustice of affirmative action, the lunacy of the feminist movement that often ignores the plight of women in favor or leftist ideology and man bashing, then it’s hard to take him seriously.

    Trump’s campaign was a bunch of crafted lies to gain votes, but he was still the closest to an anti-war candidate in the mix, which appealed to his base. At least we haven’t been thrown into another major conflict yet. I can’t think of another major candidate who ran for election who didn’t seem to parrot the AIPAC/MIC line. Trump did neither as a candidate.

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  30. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Slick Willy’s 1998 Lewinsky Scandal was mostly due to our good friend and ‘ally’, Israel. Clinton thought he could help the Palestinians get some kind of relief and waded into that morass, only to get sidetracked by a Mossad Jewess ‘honeypot.’

    Another major part played by our rascally friends was the election of Bush the Younger, made possible by the 2000 October surprise of the Israeli attack on the USS Cole. It was a sub-launched cruise missile that did in the Cole, not some boating goat herders bumping into that ship with explosives. Israel’s 9/11 False Flag plans were well underway, which called for a psycho like Cheney to be in the WH along with his pet chimp.
    As for Gore, if he had managed somehow to overcome the False Flag hubris and the vote-rigging and won, I have no doubt that he would of shortly after been dispatched, allowing the Israeli-Firster–to hell with America–raving loonie Zionist Jew Joe Lieberman to be president, also in time for 9/11.

    As for Trump in the WH, thank Hillary, Obama and the DNC, which rigged the primaries to steal the candidacy from Sanders. This is not hype or speculation, its been proven.
    All so that the Clinton-Obama mob could keep on with their lies, thievery, assassinations of political enemies, subversion and general mayhem that the loony Hillary so loves.
    Hillary would’ve started WW III with Russia over Syria, to show the world she has as big a pair of the Big Boys.

    As for Trump, he–like nearly ever other US president since 1913–has been nothing more than a figurehead, giving the rubes in the crowd something to jeer or cheer about, while the real Masters of the World–the Rothschild central banks–go about their sordid business.

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    very well said
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  31. n230099 says:

    As strange as it is to have Trump as President and as sad as it is to still be mucking around militarily in so many places, I’ll take the exposing of the swamp denizens over the sense of malaise and creepiness of the last two Presidents any day. And for those of us that lived through, let’s say, 65-70 when hundreds of Americans a week were coming home in body bags, riots and assassinations and they were shooting the kids at the schools…this is pretty tame. D.C. needed an enema and right now the ‘floaters’ in the Potomac are a beautiful sight.

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    What floaters are you referring too for I haven't seen any turds floating on the waters,and as far as enemas Trumps inter-circle could use a few,I lived thru the 50's and 60's saw our love of war and the results of that love,and don't bet it won't come again, as this empire simply won't fade away into the night, but will go kicking and screaming taking as many as it can as it goes...
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  32. Randal says:
    @David In TN
    Bacevich didn't write a word about the Open Borders fetish of both parties from which Trump dissented, or seemed to. Not a word. And this played no small part in Trump winning the GOP nomination and the election.

    That was my first reaction to it, as well.

    Bacevic is a man who has had a lot of interesting and useful stuff to say about US foreign policy overall, over the years, but he’s very obvious a terminal victim of Trump Derangement Syndrome, and absolutely (on the evidence of this piece alone) determined to keep his head firmly in the sand about mass immigration and all the unavoidably related, but oh so uncomfortable for the respectable, issues of nation, race, ethnicity, identity and culture.

    As such, since he’s chosen to wilfully deny the most urgent and most dangerous problems facing his and other nations, he has made himself irrelevant. It’s kind of a diagnosis by example of all the flaws of The American Conservative, where I think Bacevic probably feels very much at home.

    And for all Trump’s flaws, he is at least not irrelevant, even if it has turned out that he changes little in terms of the long term bipartisan idiocy of US foreign policy.

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    Thanks for your comment. Bacevich is "determined to keep his head firmly in the sand about mass immigration and all the unavoidably related, but oh so uncomfortable for the respectable, issues of nation, race, ethnicity, identity, and culture."

    Bacevich's hand-wringing over "How We Got Donald Trump" isn't much different from the rest of the so-called establishment.

    I think he demanded that Donald Trump resign after Trump's first week in office.

    , @Twodees Partain
    To put it simply: he's a leftard.
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  33. @Randal
    That was my first reaction to it, as well.

    Bacevic is a man who has had a lot of interesting and useful stuff to say about US foreign policy overall, over the years, but he's very obvious a terminal victim of Trump Derangement Syndrome, and absolutely (on the evidence of this piece alone) determined to keep his head firmly in the sand about mass immigration and all the unavoidably related, but oh so uncomfortable for the respectable, issues of nation, race, ethnicity, identity and culture.

    As such, since he's chosen to wilfully deny the most urgent and most dangerous problems facing his and other nations, he has made himself irrelevant. It's kind of a diagnosis by example of all the flaws of The American Conservative, where I think Bacevic probably feels very much at home.

    And for all Trump's flaws, he is at least not irrelevant, even if it has turned out that he changes little in terms of the long term bipartisan idiocy of US foreign policy.

    Thanks for your comment. Bacevich is “determined to keep his head firmly in the sand about mass immigration and all the unavoidably related, but oh so uncomfortable for the respectable, issues of nation, race, ethnicity, identity, and culture.”

    Bacevich’s hand-wringing over “How We Got Donald Trump” isn’t much different from the rest of the so-called establishment.

    I think he demanded that Donald Trump resign after Trump’s first week in office.

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  34. Jake says:

    The two opening paragraphs are so imbued with sufficient cuckservatism that I wonder if Becevich is angling for a well paid job at The Weekly Standard or The National Review.

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    The long meandering introductory paragraphs come right from the National Review style book.

    I wondered why he didn’t go back the Kennedy's asassination or the 1925 immigration acts
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  35. peggy says:

    Thank God Trump ran and stopped Hilliary and Jeb! I think the country is damn fed up with these two rotating war mongers.Now if they would only get the hell off the world stage we would be better off.They are all frauds and criminals.

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  36. Joe Hide says:

    Dis-informational article. It starts out with the postulate that President Trump is incompetent. This assertion is not evidence based but visceral emotionalism. It’s like I feel about the author now. Then a long historical list of American political failures that he poorly tries to connect to President Trump as not being the best choice for the leader of our country.
    To the author; maybe you should start researching and writing about the investigations, revelations, and prosecutions; of political, corporate, and institutional; traitors, pedophiles, and criminal pyschopaths; that has taken place since his election. Write about the defunding of terrorist networks, rogue companies, and psychotic human rights abusing regimes. Just start doing some research that involves hard work and thinking out of the box.

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    In order to be able to judge he's incompetent you must know his goals.
    His goals not necessarily are those he states are his goals.
    A honest politician has a very short political career, or none at all.
    Ghandi seems the prime example.
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  37. Che Guava says:

    How I wrote Elastic Man.

    Something the cadence of Bacevich’s title and words was making me to think of this. Am not knowing how to make a proper u-tub link here.

    Mods, forgive me, vox recently deceased, and posted to parody Bacevitch’s words.

    I have a low-IQ (abt. 80) USA friend, bore at times, but he is having better impressions of current politics there than Bacevich.

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  38. What we need to avoid are military officers like Andrew J. Bacevich who betray their Oath of service by allowing the true perpetrators of 9/11 to operate freely to use our defense apparatus to disgrace and bankrupt our country. Bacevich and his brother officers need to look up the definition of “treason”.

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  39. We got Trump the same way we got every POTUS since JFK, they were all Zionist ass kissers and did what the Zionist told them to do, JFK was his own man and was assassinated, that is the way things are done here on the Zionist plantation aka America.

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  40. Jake says:

    If the opening did not convince you that Becevich is so far gone that the white Middle American hating Bill Kristol would now welcome him as a Bro, just have fun his concluding sentences: ” In present-day Washington, no one can deny that the chickens have come home to roost. The biggest fowl of them all has taken up residence in the White House and, in a very real sense, we all put him there.”

    First, the chickens have only started to come home to roost. The many negative consequences of America’s policy of Invade the World/Invite the World and give it Affirmative Action while damning non-Elite white Gentiles have yet to demand penance. Second, anyone who thinks Trump is the ‘biggest fowl of them all’ is at best utterly clueless with a Fred Rogers level of goofy naivete.

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  41. More NeverTrump fàggôtry. You people must be exhausted at this point. There’s a heap in the junk yard of history with your name on it. Go lie down. Don’t bother ever getting up again.

    Meanwhile Trump is standing before Congress dropping rhetorical nuke killshots, and the Democrats are literally drooling in response.

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  42. bluedog says:
    @n230099
    As strange as it is to have Trump as President and as sad as it is to still be mucking around militarily in so many places, I'll take the exposing of the swamp denizens over the sense of malaise and creepiness of the last two Presidents any day. And for those of us that lived through, let's say, 65-70 when hundreds of Americans a week were coming home in body bags, riots and assassinations and they were shooting the kids at the schools...this is pretty tame. D.C. needed an enema and right now the 'floaters' in the Potomac are a beautiful sight.

    What floaters are you referring too for I haven’t seen any turds floating on the waters,and as far as enemas Trumps inter-circle could use a few,I lived thru the 50′s and 60′s saw our love of war and the results of that love,and don’t bet it won’t come again, as this empire simply won’t fade away into the night, but will go kicking and screaming taking as many as it can as it goes…

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  43. Anonymoud says:

    A superficial pile of crap from another idiot. The US Military is draining the country into the gutter along with a press determined to propagandize the remaining hell out of the populace. Only credulous children believe in elections. Sheep argue over the merits of candidates and believe ex-military baby killers who write columns on the web.

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    You do not understand anything.
    Giving money to military is only re circulation of money because manufacturing military equipment gives jobs to American people.
    What is harming US is that elite is giving jobs to far east.
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  44. @anonymous

    Like Lenin or Franco or Perón or dozens of other demagogues, Trump
     
    It's absurd to put Trump into the same sentence as those others. Author apparently doesn't like Trump yet never specifies exactly what policies of his he doesn't like but just relies on name calling.
    Summary of article: 'Today is a product of all previous yesterdays'. This isn't exactly a startlingly new concept. OK, all us low level munchkin Americans are ultimately responsible for everything bad. Funny, no matter who one votes for we get the same neo-con wars but we're still responsible.

    Funny, no matter who one votes for we get the same neo-con wars but we’re still responsible.

    Until you’re willing to sacrifice and endure a Second Revolutionary War and turn Wash DC and the MIC into a river of blood by butchering them all and stopping their War Machine, then yes, each and every American IS responsible for doing nothing.

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    How about a wave of serious personal boycott of the Zio-mercantilist consumer cartels that fuel their political subversion machine?

    Sit at the kitchen table with a sharp pencil. There isn't a one of you who doesn't ELECTIVELY send the Beast at least $500/month for "entertainment" and shiny things.

    How are things going to change when we are sending them railroad boxcars of cash every month? No wonder they laugh in our faces!
    , @Twodees Partain
    Good response to the cliche that "we did this to ourselves". People who say that are the kind who have never done anything but watch TV. The current mess was done to us, not by us. As you point out, the only way that "we" are at fault is because we didn't rise up and murder a few tens of thousands of people.
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  45. @Anonymous
    Shut the fuck up Bacevich. American voters chose Trump. And he’s a great President. Maybe the best ever.

    The greatest president will always be William Henry Harrison. Would that more politicians follow his example.

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  46. WHAT says:
    @Alden
    Franco was the greatest soldier and head of state of the 20 th century. He whipped a communist army and sent the survivors back to Russia. And unlike Finland, he didn’t compromise.

    He whipped the communists and will always be hated and vilified for that.

    Too bad Trump can’t do to the enemies of White America what Franco did to the enemies of Spain and western civilization.

    I agree that the article is garbage. Such an intellectual, a hop skip and jump through the last 40 years.

    Lol, Finland never even was in a position to “compromise”.

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  47. WJ says:

    I didn’t read most of this twaddle but – How did we get Trump? Because Dems are absolutely obsessed with importing millions of people from the third world and because Dems are not sufficiently anti war enough to overcome this failing. 2/3rds of deaths came under Obama’s watch. Lybia and the Syria disaster came under Obama. HRC wanted No Fly Zones to support the head chopping lunatics in Syria.

    Show me a Dem who cares about current citizens enough to simply entertain the idea of restricting immigration then we will talk. Until then , I and more and more people are in lock step with Trump despite his numerous flaws.

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    Hmm are you trying to say the republicans don't like all that cheap labor while they mouth immigration, for if you are then make an appointment to visit a shrink because you need one.

    I wonder what's the matter with the stupid electorate that's called the American voter, for after all Reagan ushered in the outsourcing of jobs,old Bush crafted NAFTA, while Clinton got it passed,but wait its all the fella's fault behind the tree,keep embracing the two party system which is a one party system controlled by the 1% ,but for Gods sake quit blaming the other fellow,meanwhile the middle class jobs left the dock years ago, while the menial jobs are being fill with the immigrants...
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  48. @mb
    Well, we are getting closer, but Mr. B still has got a ways to go.
    IOW we repeats ourself, since the last time he discussed Ronald Grump’s presidency over at the AmConservative, TPTB didn't deign to prints our comments (sic).

    The Monster Drumpftruck crushed the opposition because people are tired of one, political correctness – ie. lying – along with the economy, the MidEast wars and immigration.
    Of course whether any thing will come of those campaign positions is a very different question.

    But to return to the post, there is no mention that basically the Dims and the Repugs are socialists or one stripe or another who respectively advocate more big govt. warfare or welfare, if not both, the constitution not withstanding.

    IOW the Council for Foreign Relations is running the clown show and it’s all ice cream, though of different flavors. Which is again, why “conservatives” don’t get it, never mind the “Nevertrumpers”.

    Yeah, they’re getting better, but the brass ring still eludes their grasp in that for one, the deep sixing of Ron “The Real Reagan” Paul’s two presidential campaigns didn’t make the short list above.

    So let’s say a C+. The post starts off well with a glimmer of understanding that the Repugs are part of the problem, but the radical and full extent of the problem still leaves much to be desired in exposition and analysis. Hopefully the next will help rectify matters and bring the gentleman’s grade up a bit.

    cheers

    An article like this illustrates how leftards aren’t allies, even when they seem willing to share some of the same criticisms of government actions with normal people. Andy writes an article like this one and it turns out to be just another whine Like Hillary Clinton’s over the result of the 2016 election.

    Andy needs to realize that the election of Trump wasn’t a catastrophe. Those of us who despise the Clintons and are glad to have avoided another Clinton co-presidency can be dissatisfied with Trump and what he has been doing or failing to do, without wailing that he’s the second coming of the antichrist.

    A leftard can’t see it that way. My disagreement with libertarians like Lew Rockwell who give an undue amount of credit to leftist sites like Tomdispatch and others on the basis that they are critical of whatever war is currently being conducted by Washington is that they ignore the observations of one of their icons, Murray Rothbard. Rothbard observed that the anti-Vietnam war leftists could never be allies and it was mainly because they were leftists.

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    Lolz. Another moron who believes in the fake left and right divide. Empire needs its controlled opposition. I wonder why catholic conservatives don't celebrate the things from the past that everyone remembers too like the Highway of Death?

    The most important "enemy" for the US Military is citizens of the United States itself which is why Tom's Disinfo sprays emotions, attitudes, opinions, fake opposing points of view, delusions of how the country works and every color of propaganda across the web like a well oiled machine gun. Ya' just cain't resist. Keep posting!

    “The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy” (Georgetown University Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, 1966.)

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  49. @Wyatt Pendleton

    Funny, no matter who one votes for we get the same neo-con wars but we’re still responsible.
     
    Until you're willing to sacrifice and endure a Second Revolutionary War and turn Wash DC and the MIC into a river of blood by butchering them all and stopping their War Machine, then yes, each and every American IS responsible for doing nothing.

    How about a wave of serious personal boycott of the Zio-mercantilist consumer cartels that fuel their political subversion machine?

    Sit at the kitchen table with a sharp pencil. There isn’t a one of you who doesn’t ELECTIVELY send the Beast at least $500/month for “entertainment” and shiny things.

    How are things going to change when we are sending them railroad boxcars of cash every month? No wonder they laugh in our faces!

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  50. @Jonathan Mason

    Bush had promised, if elected, to pursue a “humble” foreign policy and forego nation-building.
     
    I had always assumed that was just an out-and-out lie, like the "they envy us for our freedoms" line.

    Bacevich also ignores the fact that Obama ran as a “peace candidate”, and was even nominated by DNC operatives for the Nobel Peace Prize before he even became president. He gives more weight to the decision of GM to dump their unsellable electric car.

    Sure, Andy, “people loved it” but somehow GM couldn’t manage to sell enough of them to justify production. It was an economic decision, not some vast right wing conspiracy to keep using petroleum.

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  51. Obama supporter, climate change obsessive. I can get this drivel on MSNBC every day. Why don’t you tell us about Tesla’s electric self-driving vehicles crashing into firetrucks or the environmental cost of producing lithium-ion batteries?

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  52. SMK says: • Website
    @Beckow
    Those who hate Trump, will hate Trump. And very little of what they write will not be coloured by the hatred.

    The analysis - although based on a sound historical premise - is off by miles. It focuses on personalities and avoids mentioning the systemic failures by Western institutions, from media to academia, from Hollywood to UN. Trump is not a revolutionary, and he is not the devil. He simply represents an attempt late in a systemic downward cycle to correct few excesses and buy some time. The beneficiaries of the excess policies - cheap labor businesses, ethnic castes, trans-gender professionals, open border fanatics, military extremists - are fighting tooth and nail to keep any change from happening. They are at this point beyond hysteria, they sense the goodies might be slipping from their hands (it is mostly about their jobs and careers).

    Two fundamental omissions from the analysis are: in domestic policies the devastating impact of affirmative action on the next generation of young, white males. And in foreign policy the equally devastating impact of Bill Clinton's attack on Serbia (to create a 'Muslim' Kosovo statelet in Europe) had on the international law and norms. Iraq inevitably followed Serbia.

    Why are these points left out? Because they would make the neo-liberal Democrats look bad? Right, Gore as president, that would had fixed it all...

    A truly weird article. Trump would be president if most of what he mentions never happened. The electric car?! The defeat of Al Gore? Trump won the Republican nomination and defeated Hillary Clinton because of massive Third-World immigration, an invasion of legal and illegal aliens that has transformed the U.S. from a nation that was almost 90% white in 1965 to one that is now only 62% white and in which whites will soon be a minority. If not for Muslim immigration, there would have been no 9-11 and no wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which it appears may never end as long as neocons and neo-liberals and their malign “invade-the-world/Invite-the-world” ideology is regnant and large3ly unopposed. No Muslims, no Muslim terrorism. Trump is president, rather than Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton, because he promised to build a wall on the Mexican border, deport illegal aliens, end Muslim immigration, and “put America first,” above “globalism.”

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    Guess you failed to read that the war is over on terrorism for that was proclaimed in Washington,no they didn't claim victory on some aircraft carrier or even mouth it behind their hands,for most people at least the sane ones know what a put up job that one was,just like the one that got us into Nam.,Now their new war is a war on competiters Russia,China Iran and any other country that refuses to bow to the empire,lol now I wonder just where all those better relations went to while he was on the stump, the no foreign entanglements,how stupid we were to be in Afghanistan etc etc etc...
    , @Leisure Larry
    Anyone with access to sea-level oxygen knows that 9/11 was architected and executed by the Global Jewish Nation, not Muslims. GJN has a rich, emblematic history of false flag terror against America.
    See: "WTC 7"
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  53. Stew11 says: • Website

    The Donald our bright and shining sun!

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  54. @Alden
    Franco was the greatest soldier and head of state of the 20 th century. He whipped a communist army and sent the survivors back to Russia. And unlike Finland, he didn’t compromise.

    He whipped the communists and will always be hated and vilified for that.

    Too bad Trump can’t do to the enemies of White America what Franco did to the enemies of Spain and western civilization.

    I agree that the article is garbage. Such an intellectual, a hop skip and jump through the last 40 years.

    Stop spewing BS. It was German shtukas that dusted off communists from Spain.
    Spain was practicing ground for German air force.

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    'Practicing' for what?

    The Germans were legally invited to assist Spain.

    No doubt you'll next trot out Guernica, a communist crime blamed on Germany, as usual

    And it's 'stuka'
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSTM-SlFaVTj5dMv4R8_btJ9ZeZQfTly1_1-_TIrVKMXF6Iq2f8ZA
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  55. Stew11 says: • Website

    The Donald our shining sun. Hope made manifest. The only sitting president to address the Right to Life Marchers. “Donald the Good.” His enemies sound like the denizens of Hell confronted with a power greater than themselves wrapped in goodness. Could it be that a force far greater, though invisible, is buoying this great man? The charnel house, Planned Parenthood, sacrificing human life, selling infants body parts, has it’s defenders all through both parties and yet The Donald Shines!

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    Enough already. It's clear that you surfed in here hoping to post to the SOTU thread and somehow got sidetracked.
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  56. bluedog says:
    @WJ
    I didn't read most of this twaddle but - How did we get Trump? Because Dems are absolutely obsessed with importing millions of people from the third world and because Dems are not sufficiently anti war enough to overcome this failing. 2/3rds of deaths came under Obama's watch. Lybia and the Syria disaster came under Obama. HRC wanted No Fly Zones to support the head chopping lunatics in Syria.

    Show me a Dem who cares about current citizens enough to simply entertain the idea of restricting immigration then we will talk. Until then , I and more and more people are in lock step with Trump despite his numerous flaws.

    Hmm are you trying to say the republicans don’t like all that cheap labor while they mouth immigration, for if you are then make an appointment to visit a shrink because you need one.

    I wonder what’s the matter with the stupid electorate that’s called the American voter, for after all Reagan ushered in the outsourcing of jobs,old Bush crafted NAFTA, while Clinton got it passed,but wait its all the fella’s fault behind the tree,keep embracing the two party system which is a one party system controlled by the 1% ,but for Gods sake quit blaming the other fellow,meanwhile the middle class jobs left the dock years ago, while the menial jobs are being fill with the immigrants…

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  57. @WorkingClass
    It was us, Sixty million deplorables gave you Trump. Trump knows we exist and he does not hate us. Best of all he is not a smug liberal who has been lobotomized by academia. Neither is he a Cuck like the gang of losers who opposed him in the primary. The most satisfying aspect of his victory is that both Democrats and Republicans lost.

    Trump ain't much but he's all we've got. His enemies are my enemies. You might bring Trump down. But sixty million deplorables will remain. Thanks to Trump we know who we are. Thanks to rhetoric from the left we know we are hated and are being systematically "replaced". We have every reason to hang together. When/if we find leadership (Trump is not a leader) you will find it is us and not Trump who are your problem.

    Your Quote:
    Best of all he is not a smug liberal who has been lobotomized by academia.

    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

    Your statement is not only best ever on this website.

    Your statement is the statement for 21st century.

    My absolute admiration to you

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    Greetings Ilyana_Rozumova:

    I know it's not always intended that way. But OMG always sounds to me like an abbreviated and spontaneous prayer. Reading so many of them I realize that OMG can also be a mantra.

    Go in peace.
    And thank you for your kind words.
    , @CanSpeccy
    Question is, will Trump dismantle the liberal-Commie-Left brainwashing machine that academia has become. Indeed, how could he. Yet unless he does, his victory will, in the long-run, mean little.
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  58. bluedog says:
    @SMK
    A truly weird article. Trump would be president if most of what he mentions never happened. The electric car?! The defeat of Al Gore? Trump won the Republican nomination and defeated Hillary Clinton because of massive Third-World immigration, an invasion of legal and illegal aliens that has transformed the U.S. from a nation that was almost 90% white in 1965 to one that is now only 62% white and in which whites will soon be a minority. If not for Muslim immigration, there would have been no 9-11 and no wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which it appears may never end as long as neocons and neo-liberals and their malign "invade-the-world/Invite-the-world" ideology is regnant and large3ly unopposed. No Muslims, no Muslim terrorism. Trump is president, rather than Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton, because he promised to build a wall on the Mexican border, deport illegal aliens, end Muslim immigration, and "put America first," above "globalism."

    Guess you failed to read that the war is over on terrorism for that was proclaimed in Washington,no they didn’t claim victory on some aircraft carrier or even mouth it behind their hands,for most people at least the sane ones know what a put up job that one was,just like the one that got us into Nam.,Now their new war is a war on competiters Russia,China Iran and any other country that refuses to bow to the empire,lol now I wonder just where all those better relations went to while he was on the stump, the no foreign entanglements,how stupid we were to be in Afghanistan etc etc etc…

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  59. In my opinion from the other side of the Atlantic the question is ‘how did it take so long for the USA people that they needed someone from outside the political crowd ?’.

    Can someone enlighten me, are the identical coats the former presidents wear bullet proof ?
    In Europe I just saw these coats on French president Hollande, and Dutch politician Wilders.

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    Very perceptive. Pres Regean wore a bullet proof vest the day he was shot. The bullet entered side ways through the underarm and almost hit his heart.

    I think they all do, especially at this inauguration with Trump so hated.
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  60. @Anonymoud
    A superficial pile of crap from another idiot. The US Military is draining the country into the gutter along with a press determined to propagandize the remaining hell out of the populace. Only credulous children believe in elections. Sheep argue over the merits of candidates and believe ex-military baby killers who write columns on the web.

    You do not understand anything.
    Giving money to military is only re circulation of money because manufacturing military equipment gives jobs to American people.
    What is harming US is that elite is giving jobs to far east.

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  61. @Randal
    That was my first reaction to it, as well.

    Bacevic is a man who has had a lot of interesting and useful stuff to say about US foreign policy overall, over the years, but he's very obvious a terminal victim of Trump Derangement Syndrome, and absolutely (on the evidence of this piece alone) determined to keep his head firmly in the sand about mass immigration and all the unavoidably related, but oh so uncomfortable for the respectable, issues of nation, race, ethnicity, identity and culture.

    As such, since he's chosen to wilfully deny the most urgent and most dangerous problems facing his and other nations, he has made himself irrelevant. It's kind of a diagnosis by example of all the flaws of The American Conservative, where I think Bacevic probably feels very much at home.

    And for all Trump's flaws, he is at least not irrelevant, even if it has turned out that he changes little in terms of the long term bipartisan idiocy of US foreign policy.

    To put it simply: he’s a leftard.

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  62. @Joe Hide
    Dis-informational article. It starts out with the postulate that President Trump is incompetent. This assertion is not evidence based but visceral emotionalism. It's like I feel about the author now. Then a long historical list of American political failures that he poorly tries to connect to President Trump as not being the best choice for the leader of our country.
    To the author; maybe you should start researching and writing about the investigations, revelations, and prosecutions; of political, corporate, and institutional; traitors, pedophiles, and criminal pyschopaths; that has taken place since his election. Write about the defunding of terrorist networks, rogue companies, and psychotic human rights abusing regimes. Just start doing some research that involves hard work and thinking out of the box.

    In order to be able to judge he’s incompetent you must know his goals.
    His goals not necessarily are those he states are his goals.
    A honest politician has a very short political career, or none at all.
    Ghandi seems the prime example.

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  63. TheOldOne says:

    I’m not the decider here, but based on this post, the writings of Mr. Bacevich contribute very little to this site and should be dropped by Mr. Unz.

    Nome sayin.

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    Oh I don’t know. The article gave us or at least me a lot of fun to while away the evening while most channels had the state of the union nonsense.
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  64. @SMK
    A truly weird article. Trump would be president if most of what he mentions never happened. The electric car?! The defeat of Al Gore? Trump won the Republican nomination and defeated Hillary Clinton because of massive Third-World immigration, an invasion of legal and illegal aliens that has transformed the U.S. from a nation that was almost 90% white in 1965 to one that is now only 62% white and in which whites will soon be a minority. If not for Muslim immigration, there would have been no 9-11 and no wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which it appears may never end as long as neocons and neo-liberals and their malign "invade-the-world/Invite-the-world" ideology is regnant and large3ly unopposed. No Muslims, no Muslim terrorism. Trump is president, rather than Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton, because he promised to build a wall on the Mexican border, deport illegal aliens, end Muslim immigration, and "put America first," above "globalism."

    Anyone with access to sea-level oxygen knows that 9/11 was architected and executed by the Global Jewish Nation, not Muslims. GJN has a rich, emblematic history of false flag terror against America.
    See: “WTC 7″

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    Israel and their dual citizens control every facet of the U.S. gov and the proof is that Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state not only did 911 but they got away with it, just like Israels attack on the USS LIBERTY.
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  65. @Wyatt Pendleton

    Funny, no matter who one votes for we get the same neo-con wars but we’re still responsible.
     
    Until you're willing to sacrifice and endure a Second Revolutionary War and turn Wash DC and the MIC into a river of blood by butchering them all and stopping their War Machine, then yes, each and every American IS responsible for doing nothing.

    Good response to the cliche that “we did this to ourselves”. People who say that are the kind who have never done anything but watch TV. The current mess was done to us, not by us. As you point out, the only way that “we” are at fault is because we didn’t rise up and murder a few tens of thousands of people.

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  66. @Stew11
    The Donald our shining sun. Hope made manifest. The only sitting president to address the Right to Life Marchers. "Donald the Good." His enemies sound like the denizens of Hell confronted with a power greater than themselves wrapped in goodness. Could it be that a force far greater, though invisible, is buoying this great man? The charnel house, Planned Parenthood, sacrificing human life, selling infants body parts, has it's defenders all through both parties and yet The Donald Shines!

    Enough already. It’s clear that you surfed in here hoping to post to the SOTU thread and somehow got sidetracked.

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  67. @CK
    In the modern vernacular, losers gonna hate. That the historian cherry picks is not surprising; that he cherry picks badly is a bit sad.

    That the historian cherry picks is not surprising; that he cherry picks badly is a bit sad.

    Yeah, we know, right?

    How’s about them “holocausters” who’ve been pulling “history” outta their tuschies for centuries?

    Talk about cherry picking…is there any history beyond “the” holocaust? Sad? Disgusting and nauseating, too.

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  68. c matt says:
    @jimbojones
    How about Trump just ran a strong campaign with a strong platform against a weak candidate with a weak platform? And the only reason Trump didn't win biglier was the unprecedented concentration and breadth of forces arrayed against him - almost the entire media, significant proportions of the Republican party, the entire Democratic party, significant elements of the intelligence agencies, etc.

    One can divide presidential policy into economic policy, foreign policy, and cultural policy.
    - Trump's economic policy is a great success. Obama did not make this economy - Trump did. I can tell you why - because as a real builder of real things, Trump realizes that the economy is about making stuff. (For a true "service economy" look no further than Zimbabwe or Bangladesh.) And he has been promoting production from the get-go.
    - Trump's foreign policy is tolerable. The destruction of ISIS and salvation of Syria are great achievements. Beyond that, Trump hasn't started new wars, which is good.
    - On the cultural front, Trump is providing welcome respite from, and a correction to, the topsy-turby world of murderous thuggish gentle giants, failed green utopianism exemplified by Solyndra, global warming alarmism, transgederism mania, and so on.

    So yeah - Trump won because he was a good candidate with a good platform. And he is doing great.

    Good candidate with a good platform may be too strong, but better candidate with a better platform still does it. It’s all relative, as Einstein would say.

    He is doing ok. Given the forces arrayed against him, he is doing great. Still a bit concerned he is being neoconned on foreign policy.

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  69. @WorkingClass
    It was us, Sixty million deplorables gave you Trump. Trump knows we exist and he does not hate us. Best of all he is not a smug liberal who has been lobotomized by academia. Neither is he a Cuck like the gang of losers who opposed him in the primary. The most satisfying aspect of his victory is that both Democrats and Republicans lost.

    Trump ain't much but he's all we've got. His enemies are my enemies. You might bring Trump down. But sixty million deplorables will remain. Thanks to Trump we know who we are. Thanks to rhetoric from the left we know we are hated and are being systematically "replaced". We have every reason to hang together. When/if we find leadership (Trump is not a leader) you will find it is us and not Trump who are your problem.

    Best of all he is not a smug liberal who has been lobotomized by academia.

    Instead he’s a smug Izzy-firster, lobotomized by the likes of Adelson and Netanyahoo. No better than any other smug doofus.

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    Instead he’s a smug Izzy-firster, lobotomized by the likes of Adelson and Netanyahoo. No better than any other smug doofus.
     
    You left out Jared.

    Yes Trump is a Zionist. But the criminal McCabe is gone from the FBI and I am confident others will follow. The truth is coming out about Trump's enemies whom you seem eager to aid and comfort.
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  70. Terrorist wing of Democratic party already in action. Trump’s life in danger.
    Confirmation of this action will be if personal in Garbage truck were in truck or not.

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  71. Wally says: • Website
    @animalogic
    "Trump has correctly identified the structural dismantling of the US economy in the interest of an oligarchy as our main problem. "
    In the interests of the US oligarchy. His "tax plan" is more such dismantling. Unless, of course you still believe in "trickle down" ( golden showers, courtesy of Elites)

    “His “tax plan” is more such dismantling.”

    Really?

    Give us proof of what you claim.

    7 Amazing Facts About Trump’s Economy Media Don’t Want You to Know

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/19/nolte-7-facts-trumps-economy-media-dont-want-know/

    Trump tax cuts: 90% Of Workers Likely To See More Money In Paycheck Next Month

    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/01/12/paycheck-changes-new-tax-law-more-money/

    Public Radio Admits: Trump Tax Cut Good for Middle & Low Income in California http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/01/28/public-radio-admits-trump-tax-cut-best-for-middle-low-income/

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  72. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Trump is a product of the times within which we live. Perhaps it’s time to acknowledge that this thing of ours no longer works. That our constitution– a relic of a (late 18th) century when there weren’t even any political parties as currently understood–needs to be overhauled.

    A Second Constitutional Convention anyone?

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    Doesn’t matter if we have a constitution or not. Judges make our laws.
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  73. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Your Quote:
    Best of all he is not a smug liberal who has been lobotomized by academia.

    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

    Your statement is not only best ever on this website.

    Your statement is the statement for 21st century.

    My absolute admiration to you

    Greetings Ilyana_Rozumova:

    I know it’s not always intended that way. But OMG always sounds to me like an abbreviated and spontaneous prayer. Reading so many of them I realize that OMG can also be a mantra.

    Go in peace.
    And thank you for your kind words.

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  74. @Leisure Larry
    Anyone with access to sea-level oxygen knows that 9/11 was architected and executed by the Global Jewish Nation, not Muslims. GJN has a rich, emblematic history of false flag terror against America.
    See: "WTC 7"

    Israel and their dual citizens control every facet of the U.S. gov and the proof is that Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state not only did 911 but they got away with it, just like Israels attack on the USS LIBERTY.

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  75. Wally says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Stop spewing BS. It was German shtukas that dusted off communists from Spain.
    Spain was practicing ground for German air force.

    ‘Practicing’ for what?

    The Germans were legally invited to assist Spain.

    No doubt you’ll next trot out Guernica, a communist crime blamed on Germany, as usual

    And it’s ‘stuka’

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSTM-SlFaVTj5dMv4R8_btJ9ZeZQfTly1_1-_TIrVKMXF6Iq2f8ZA

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    It is shtuka and not stuka. Do not argue with me. You loose. I was there when they flew over.
    Everybody did call them Shtukas They were Germans in the crowd.
    , @anonymous
    No. The Germans were invited to assist an illegal military coup, like the Soviets helping Castro. The Soviets however were legally invited to assist the Spanish government which had been duly elected in February, like the United States assisting S. Vietnam.
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  76. Bacevich occasionally writes decent articles. This is not one of them.

    Trump got elected because he, alone, dared to seriously address the ongoing and unsought racial/ethnic transformation of the US that takes into consideration the interests of America’s founding, European-derived, English-speaking majority.

    Trump (the candidate) also stated that he wanted to normalize relations with Russia. This is an infinitely sensible goal. (Trump’s welcome peace overtures to Putin is why ‘Russiagate’ was invented).

    Candidate Trump also said: “I don’t want your [Jewish] money” to an auditorium of rich and powerful Israeli-Americans. This statement was also inspiring, long overdue and sorely needed.

    Would a President Trump actually resist the toxic pressures of America’s Jewish lobby? It looked that way.

    Sadly, Trump finally took their money and the US wars/pressures against world Jewry’s foes are again on the rise. Victims include millions who live in Syria, Iran, Afghanistan, Palestine, Russia, Lebanon, Libya as well as the pathetic inmates at Guantanamo Bay.

    President Trump’s flip-flops and compromises have been a huge disappointment to this Trump supporter. But I have not abandoned him. Not yet.

    Sadly, The Donald (like most of the modern Presidents before him) has yielded to the omnipresent Jewish lobby and other entrenched powers within the Deep State. Bacevich ignores this part of the picture. And Candidate Clinton was clearly under their thrall. It’s good at least that Hillary is not back in the White House.

    Candidate Trump appeared to be independent, pro-American and different than most of the ambitious political operatives that one finds in Washington. This inspired his base: the possibility of real change.

    Bacevich’s disdainful, left wing analysis of Trump is typical of what one generally finds on TomDispatch. What are he and his ilk doing on UNZ?

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    Candidate Trump also said: “I don’t want your [Jewish] money” to an auditorium of rich and powerful Israeli-Americans.
     
    You forgot the part where he said; "I get all I need from the families of my children's parents."
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  77. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Twodees Partain
    An article like this illustrates how leftards aren't allies, even when they seem willing to share some of the same criticisms of government actions with normal people. Andy writes an article like this one and it turns out to be just another whine Like Hillary Clinton's over the result of the 2016 election.

    Andy needs to realize that the election of Trump wasn't a catastrophe. Those of us who despise the Clintons and are glad to have avoided another Clinton co-presidency can be dissatisfied with Trump and what he has been doing or failing to do, without wailing that he's the second coming of the antichrist.

    A leftard can't see it that way. My disagreement with libertarians like Lew Rockwell who give an undue amount of credit to leftist sites like Tomdispatch and others on the basis that they are critical of whatever war is currently being conducted by Washington is that they ignore the observations of one of their icons, Murray Rothbard. Rothbard observed that the anti-Vietnam war leftists could never be allies and it was mainly because they were leftists.

    Lolz. Another moron who believes in the fake left and right divide. Empire needs its controlled opposition. I wonder why catholic conservatives don’t celebrate the things from the past that everyone remembers too like the Highway of Death?

    The most important “enemy” for the US Military is citizens of the United States itself which is why Tom’s Disinfo sprays emotions, attitudes, opinions, fake opposing points of view, delusions of how the country works and every color of propaganda across the web like a well oiled machine gun. Ya’ just cain’t resist. Keep posting!

    “The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy” (Georgetown University Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, 1966.)

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  78. @Wally
    'Practicing' for what?

    The Germans were legally invited to assist Spain.

    No doubt you'll next trot out Guernica, a communist crime blamed on Germany, as usual

    And it's 'stuka'
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSTM-SlFaVTj5dMv4R8_btJ9ZeZQfTly1_1-_TIrVKMXF6Iq2f8ZA

    It is shtuka and not stuka. Do not argue with me. You loose. I was there when they flew over.
    Everybody did call them Shtukas They were Germans in the crowd.

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    To be fair to Wally, he's only spelling it the way people who speak English do, the same way that German speakers would write "Schoßtakowitsch," rather than "Shostakovich."
    , @jacques sheete

    It is shtuka and not stuka.
     
    It's either in American English, which seems the default language here at UR.

    Anyway, I built a model Stuka and flew it on a string way back when, so I'm familiar with the term.
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  79. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Your Quote:
    Best of all he is not a smug liberal who has been lobotomized by academia.

    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

    Your statement is not only best ever on this website.

    Your statement is the statement for 21st century.

    My absolute admiration to you

    Question is, will Trump dismantle the liberal-Commie-Left brainwashing machine that academia has become. Indeed, how could he. Yet unless he does, his victory will, in the long-run, mean little.

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    For the time being Trump cannot do too much. He can only increase the base and also he can considerably improve the economy. If he does that, he will get a second term, and then he can start to clean the house on all fronts.
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Personally I do not want to get into this kind of discussion and I still do not.
    But you have a right for my answer so I will make an exception.
    In order to answer your question we have to solve one problem.

    In case of murder for hire, who has the greater guilt, the person who hires the murderer or the person who performs the murder?

    My opinion is without doubt, that person who performs the murder has a greater guilt.
    In order for society to eliminate or at least limit murders for hire the society must deal with one of these group.
    Society cannot deal with people who have means to hire a person for murder, because they are innocent until the moment hiring. On the other hand society have a chance to interfere with people who commit the murder because of their previous activities.

    To transfer this principle to your question, the Academia are those who hire,
    and politicians are those who do the deeds.
    How can Government to influence academia I do have to admit that I do not have a clue.
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  80. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    'Practicing' for what?

    The Germans were legally invited to assist Spain.

    No doubt you'll next trot out Guernica, a communist crime blamed on Germany, as usual

    And it's 'stuka'
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSTM-SlFaVTj5dMv4R8_btJ9ZeZQfTly1_1-_TIrVKMXF6Iq2f8ZA

    No. The Germans were invited to assist an illegal military coup, like the Soviets helping Castro. The Soviets however were legally invited to assist the Spanish government which had been duly elected in February, like the United States assisting S. Vietnam.

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    Which duly "legally" shipped them the entire Spanish gold reserve?

    And duly "legally" shot opposing politicians in the streets?

    , @Alden
    You neglected to mention that as soon as the soviets arrived they murdered all the socialists who invited them and took over the Republican government.

    Viva Franco!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    He whipped the commies as every other 20th century leader bowed in acquiescence.
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  81. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:

    Anon from TN
    Every nation has the government it deserves. Isn’t it sad?

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  82. Moi says:
    @deej
    Mr B. has missed the entire point of Trump. It's the economy stupid. Trump has correctly identified the structural dismantling of the US economy in the interest of an oligarchy as our main problem. Everything else is a footnote to this fact including war policy. The US has given away more wealth in a shorter period of time than any other nation in history. The fact that we gave it away (to make rich people richer) to a communist slave state (still is politically) across the globe is the tragic joke. As such Trump has shown himself more strategically intelligent than Mr. B. The fact that Trump is a vulgarian is a small price to pay.

    Nope, the elephant in the room is that America, in a period of less than 50 years, went from being about 80 percent white to 60 percent white. What used to be America no longer exists because its leaders sold it out.

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    "Nope, the elephant in the room is that America, in a period of less than 50 years, went from being about 80 percent white to 60 percent white."

    The same argument was made how the America went from primarily English to non-English with the infusion of Germans and Irish by the 1860's.

    Are you non-English? Then you must go back.

    "What used to be America no longer exists because its leaders sold it out."

    What used to be America is still America--a nation based on the proposition. Always has been, always will be.
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  83. @CanSpeccy
    Question is, will Trump dismantle the liberal-Commie-Left brainwashing machine that academia has become. Indeed, how could he. Yet unless he does, his victory will, in the long-run, mean little.

    For the time being Trump cannot do too much. He can only increase the base and also he can considerably improve the economy. If he does that, he will get a second term, and then he can start to clean the house on all fronts.

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  84. Rurik says:

    all those “deplorables” — the angry and ignorant white males

    that’s as far as I got

    is this you, POS?

    when’s the last time you were passed over for a promotion or watched your child denied a place at university because of the color of their skin, eh shit bag?

    white men are supposed to embrace their second-class status with self-loathing glee, huh?

    I do so ever tire of (genuinely privileged) human urinals like yourself, posturing your self-contempt as a virtue, when you’re not worthy to lick the dirt off the working-class white (or black or brown) man’s (or woman’s) boots.

    for a sack of shit like yourself, your only haven from your self-loathing is to look for someone, anyone to feel superior over. You wallow in your self-abasement to every identity-politics loser who demands their pound of (white) flesh, and eventually the weight of your self-negation becomes too burdensome, even for a human urinal like yourself. So you flail around for a socially approved untouchable to feel superior to. Ironically they’re the very folks who least qualify for your snark.

    God almighty to I LOVE to watch what Trump is doing to the smugosphere. Watching them twist in their solipsistic bile, is as satisfying as it gets.

    I certainly don’t agree with everything Trump’s doing. Hardly. But man is it great to see his effect on these white liberal turds.

    as Michael Moore attested, Trump’s election is a huge ‘fuck you’ to all the smug frauds and self-important status whores, and it does feel so good, that it becomes just too easy to overlook the things about Trump that are genuinely troubling.

    I have to admit, that when Luis Gutierrez got triggered by too much talk of ‘America’, and stormed out of the chamber, I busted a gut laughing. Just that moment was priceless beyond words.

    Here’s to you Bacevich, twisting in your panties, all triggered and huffy because a white American male is not the least bit apologetic for being what and who I am. Quite the contrary.

    So shove that up your liberal, smug keister, and you’ll have a reason for your butt-hurt.

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  85. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    No. The Germans were invited to assist an illegal military coup, like the Soviets helping Castro. The Soviets however were legally invited to assist the Spanish government which had been duly elected in February, like the United States assisting S. Vietnam.

    Which duly “legally” shipped them the entire Spanish gold reserve?

    And duly “legally” shot opposing politicians in the streets?

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    That the Soviets did illegal things once they intervened in Spain doesn't mean that Spain had no right to request their assistance in resisting the coup.
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  86. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Which duly "legally" shipped them the entire Spanish gold reserve?

    And duly "legally" shot opposing politicians in the streets?

    That the Soviets did illegal things once they intervened in Spain doesn’t mean that Spain had no right to request their assistance in resisting the coup.

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    The Nationalists had the moral high ground and were simply better human beings. Besides, they had the best music:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfPsWwxqITY
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  87. @jacques sheete

    Best of all he is not a smug liberal who has been lobotomized by academia.
     
    Instead he's a smug Izzy-firster, lobotomized by the likes of Adelson and Netanyahoo. No better than any other smug doofus.

    Instead he’s a smug Izzy-firster, lobotomized by the likes of Adelson and Netanyahoo. No better than any other smug doofus.

    You left out Jared.

    Yes Trump is a Zionist. But the criminal McCabe is gone from the FBI and I am confident others will follow. The truth is coming out about Trump’s enemies whom you seem eager to aid and comfort.

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    The truth is coming out about Trump’s enemies whom you seem eager to aid and comfort.
     
    Aid and comfort? Nah; they can all go to the deepest pits in Hades for all I care. They all suck, and the higher ya go, the worse they suck.
    , @Truth

    You left out Jared.
     
    Yeah, he is a weak, simple-minded, limp-wristed Zionist ass-kisser too.

    Have you read amren.com lately?
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  88. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    It is shtuka and not stuka. Do not argue with me. You loose. I was there when they flew over.
    Everybody did call them Shtukas They were Germans in the crowd.

    To be fair to Wally, he’s only spelling it the way people who speak English do, the same way that German speakers would write “Schoßtakowitsch,” rather than “Shostakovich.”

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  89. @Biff

    How are we to account for his noxious presence as commander-in-chief and putative Leader of the Free World?
     
    Free world? When you find such a place let me know. I’m quite interested in checking it out.

    One of the most pointed and astute comments I have ever seen. Bravo! Thank you Sir.

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  90. @CanSpeccy
    Question is, will Trump dismantle the liberal-Commie-Left brainwashing machine that academia has become. Indeed, how could he. Yet unless he does, his victory will, in the long-run, mean little.

    Personally I do not want to get into this kind of discussion and I still do not.
    But you have a right for my answer so I will make an exception.
    In order to answer your question we have to solve one problem.

    In case of murder for hire, who has the greater guilt, the person who hires the murderer or the person who performs the murder?

    My opinion is without doubt, that person who performs the murder has a greater guilt.
    In order for society to eliminate or at least limit murders for hire the society must deal with one of these group.
    Society cannot deal with people who have means to hire a person for murder, because they are innocent until the moment hiring. On the other hand society have a chance to interfere with people who commit the murder because of their previous activities.

    To transfer this principle to your question, the Academia are those who hire,
    and politicians are those who do the deeds.
    How can Government to influence academia I do have to admit that I do not have a clue.

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    I think there is something the Feds could do about education. They could set up a Federal University which would assemble a comprehensive collection of online educational resources and organize mechanism to connect students studying online with tutors in their local community.

    Such an institution would allow young people to study in their spare time while they are engaged in gainful employment. The heart of the system would be the tutorial system. It would require the development of software to manage online communications -- one might pay by the byte to communicate with tutors.

    In addition, there would be tutorial rooms made available, not on broad and expensive campuses with sports teams and million dollar coaches, but in downtown office buildings, where students could engage with others pursuing the same topics as themselves under a tutor's guidance. This would eliminate the need for student loans while adding four or more years to every university graduates working life.

    The result?

    The bankruptcy of half of America's university's within ten to 15 years, as predicted by Harvard business school prof Clayton Christensen:

    Harvard Business School professor: Half of American colleges will be bankrupt in 10 to 15 years

    It would also mean an end to useless university bureaucrats, and and end to the university's role as a Commie brainwashing operation.

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  91. Cyrano says:

    US elections are no longer about electing a president. Since Obama, the US elections are about electing a savior. Since both Obama – and as it looks – Trump will disappoint in the savior department, Oprah was to be the ultimate choice until she graciously declined to perform as a trapeze artist in the circus – maybe because of her somewhat advanced age. What nobody seems to understand is that the US elections were designed to elect a savior all right – the savior of the system not of the people.

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  92. Dr. X says:

    If, in choosing a president on our behalf, the Supreme Court had given the nod to Al Gore instead of George Bush, might they have averted that never-ending, never-contracting war on terrorism? No doubt the 9/11 attacks would still have occurred and some U.S. military action would have ensued. But Gore did not share the obsession with Saddam Hussein that infected members of the Bush-Cheney axis. Arguably, a President Gore would have been less likely than President Bush to insist on invading a country that had played no part in the al-Qaeda conspiracy.

    Prof. Bacevich is far more intelligent than this paragraph indicates, but he let his personal hatred interfere with his ability to reason objectively.

    First, the Supreme Court did not “choose a president on our behalf.” The Gore campaign, along with partisan hacks in the state courts, came up with a Machiavellian scheme to rig the recounts in Florida until Gore won. The Supreme Court rightly put an end to Gore’s brazen attempt at naked election fraud.

    Second, the supposition that Gore would not have invaded Iraq is purely counterfactual conjecture. Possibly he wouldn’t have invaded Iraq, but he might have done something else equally stupid. After all, the Clinton administration under which he served for eight years officially believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, enforced the no-fly zone over Iraq, and ordered 650 bombing sorties against Iraq the night before the House was to vote on impeachment in “Operation Desert Fox.” The Clinton administration also put the U.S. military into Bosnia and Kosovo, bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, sent troops to Haiti, presided over the “Blackhawk Down” disaster in Somalia, the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen, and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. They also refused to pursue Osama bin Laden on either terrorism or criminal charges and reportedly turned down a deal to capture him. (They did, however, go after the Branch Davidians and Elian Gonzalez).

    What makes you think that Gore knew any more about foreign policy than Bush?

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    Ah of course there was no corruption in the vote in Fla.,but yet Bush the stupid said don't worry Jebby says its in the bag,this was before it had been decided by the recount,Bush and the high court.I wonder what it is about foolish people (Comes with the genes I guess) that it makes little difference in how you vote it still remains the same,as long as we can blame it on to someone else..
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  93. Jeff77450 says:

    Mr. Bacevich, good article. You make a number of valid points, several of which hadn’t occurred to me. You’re probably smarter than I am. My answer to the question of how we got DJT would’ve been something like: For ~fifty years Mainstream America–the descendants of those pioneers who created America and who did the overwhelming majority of the fighting-and-dying in our many wars–watched as others, i.e. blacks & Latinos, but also other new arrivals, were moved to the head of the line for college admissions and certain jobs. They watched as major immigration policies were forced on them from the top down with effectively no national debate. They watched as they saw themselves become an ever-smaller percentage of the nation. They watched as many of their American Graffiti/Norman Rockwell-esque communities got transformed into something less desirable. They watched as their jobs were sent overseas. They watched as their values & traditions were trashed. Finally, in 2016 they collectively said to themselves, “This is like the time when the skunk and the porcupine were having sex and one said to another, ‘Enough of this is enough’” and they voted for Donald J. Trump.

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    They watched as many of their American Graffiti/Norman Rockwell-esque communities got transformed into something less desirable. They watched as their jobs were sent overseas. They watched as their values & traditions were trashed.
     
    I checked this guy out

    Andrew J. Bacevich, Sr. is an American historian specializing in international relations, security studies, American foreign policy, and American diplomatic and military history. He is a Professor Emeritus of International Relations and History at the Boston University Frederick S. Pardee School of Global Studies.
     
    Now, with that resume, what has Bacevich had to say about formerly white nation that has let non-whites take charge. Surely there are lessons there for the future white minority of America, no?

    So, I looked for what Mr. Bacevich has written about Zimbabwe, being as he's a specialist in international relations, American foreign policy, diplomacy and Professor Emeritus of International Relations and History at the Boston University Frederick S. Pardee School of Global Studies!

    Surely a guy like this has had an opinion about a nation that has done what he no doubt obviously proposes for the ZUSA, and forsakes its evil white privilege to embrace social justice and racial equality, no?

    So, doing an Internet search for his wise counsel vis-a-vis Zimbabwe, we find exactly this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

    OK, maybe he's never heard of Zimbabwe.

    So let's look at some other issues of international import that Mr. Bacevich has chimed in on...

    there is this:

    The battle for truth over Saudi Arabia's ties to 9/11

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0427-bacevich-28-pages-saudi-911-20160427-story.html

    this was penned in April, 2016

    so this imbecile has carefully avoided any research into the fact that 9/11 was obviously lied about, and that only a complete dunderhead still believes in the 19 ''terrorists" with box cutters. A dunderhead, or a professional liar.

    here he is on Israeli warmongering:

    Whether using tanks to conquer or assassins to liquidate, adherence to this knee-to-the-groin paradigm has won Israel few friends in the region and few admirers around the world (Americans notably excepted). The likelihood of this approach eliminating or even diminishing Arab or Iranian hostility toward Israel appears less than promising. That said, the approach has thus far succeeded in preserving and even expanding the Jewish state: more than 60 years after its founding, Israel persists and even prospers. By this rough but not inconsequential measure, the Israeli security concept has succeeded. Okay, it’s nasty: but so far at least, it’s worked.
     
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-we-became-israel/

    worked for whom Mr. Bacevich? Has it "worked" for the Palestinians per chance?

    The average Israeli had long since become inured to reports of IDF incursions into southern Lebanon or Gaza.
     
    what about the residents of Gaza? Have they too become "inured"?

    And isn't that nice the way he says the average Israeli has become "inured", as if they're so put upon by these incursions, that they've had to toughen up. Here they are bolstering their forbearance to these bombs dropping on Gaza. The poor dears.

    http://www.alternativeinsight.com/rocket_fire-2.jpg

    the rest of the article talks about ZUS / Israeli's overlapping agenda, but I don't see the word neocon mentioned even once. Perhaps Mr. Bacevich has never heard of a neocon or William Kristol or Sheldon Adelson...

    But then, it's not like he's a professional that specializes in American foreign policy, or American diplomatic and international relations after all. So I guess you can't expect him to understand just why it is that America slavishly acts as Israel's bitch. Even as he writes articles bewildered over the phenomena.

    Here he describes Hillary as "an impeccably credentialed graduate of Wellesley and Yale who had served as first lady, United States senator, and secretary of state."

    https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-is-not-the-problem/

    so, in short, and with my admittedly limited research capabilities, it seems that for Mr. Bacevich, Israeli's behavior is plucky and 'successful'. American's warmongering is wrong-headed, but has nothing whatsoever to do with neocons or disloyal duel citizens or Jewish intrigues and treachery to corrupt America's foreign policy towards the war agenda. It's just Americans being stupid, and probably just another dire consequence of the privilege (and racism) of "the angry and ignorant white males" - Les Deplorables he seems to deplore so earnestly.

    but I wanted to know, does his rank and vile dishonesty pervade his entire body of work, or is his virtue signaling vis-a-vis his contempt for working class white men an aberration. Sadly, it seems the former is the case.
    , @Jake
    Blacks and others 'were moved.' By whom or what?

    The WASP Elite was shitting on the vast majority of white Americans while determined to uplift the poor angelic Negro before Jews ever made any impact on media, politics, or jurisprudence.

    We are in the shape we are in because the descendants (religious, cultural, and moral as well as genetic) of Anglo-Saxon Puritans have set national standards since at least 1865. From the beginning of the Judaizing heresy that was Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, it produced a political culture naturally allying with Jews against the vast majority of whites it ruled.

    Blacks proved perfect tools and weapons for WASP Elites, in league with their Jewish allies (WASPs and Jews allied under Oliver Cromwell), to use to batter the white masses.
    , @tjm
    Zionists own America, and the whole world knows it.

    They own media, Hollywood, entertainment, Wall Street, The Fed, advertising, higher education, and Washington.

    The zionists use the carrot and the stick, black mail, bribes to ensure everyone stays on message:

    Anti white male, feminist, OPEN BORDERS, anti Russian, anti Christian and on and on...

    9/11 I believe was final move to totally take over the US government by the Zionist money machine.

    Trump will likely grant amnesty for illegals, very very likely
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  94. renfro says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    Here we must drastically part ways -- not much new there.i take full responsibility for my vote. As such I am willing to defend it. I am also willing and never have been shy about expressing my dissent, where I dissented.

    I have my issues - but bemoaning a sky falling that isn't is not one of them. no President has had as much opposition since the civil war in my view. I can't think of single media outlet that i trust on issues in general, much less get the straight story on this President. he seems content to abandon several issues i thought were nonnegotiable and I will admit, a deep sense of betrayal.


    But this is the man I voted for. I can only hope that he returns to the stated goals. He actually leads as opposed to what is a feeling that he is being led. I am not sure how one decides to adopt an agenda that his campaign defeated and bring on board the people responsible for the agenda you contended was damaging to the country, that did not bode well for the agenda I voted for.

    But his situational style has left nothing sacred to stand on --- that's one of the ways situational leaders think and operate. What is disconcerting is that the ship is headed in a direction I was sure had already proven -- the wrong way.

    As a voter for this Pres. and as a supporter, I will have to live and work with my choice, even if that means pulling my hair out along the way.

    My frustrations do not ignore the enormous effort it took to see the campaign to its end. yet, it's was always possible that winning was always going to be easier than actually doing the job. Frankly, I don't think anyone is more surprised than he is to have won. He may yet be overwhelmed by that fact.

    As for touting the economy -- I am very dubious just how healthy the economy is. it's employment, wages, wage increases, hours of employment, imports and always for me -- real GDP as to actual goods sold, not what we count in the car lot. Also deeply troubling is the size of the economy that is based on govt expenditures -- that's not growth -- that's recirculating taxes 9I think -- central planning).

    I own lock stock and barrel my choice. And unless he engages in violations of the law -- I will tend to support him, despite our differences. That's the mind of a coach, facilitator, instructor and business owner. Someday I will actually make money. but quitting because my choice is steering off course - that's a last of the last of options.

    I must consider where would a bounty of people be had I threw up my hands because they went astray. As for what;s in it for me. I expect a check from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey . . . any day now -- israel . . . that's really funny.

    Laugh.

    I will tend to support him, despite our differences. That’s the mind of a coach, facilitator, instructor and business owner.

    More like the mind of a man who doesn’t know when to stop digging his own hole.

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    I will plead slow on the uptick here.


    Explain.
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  95. bluedog says:
    @Dr. X

    If, in choosing a president on our behalf, the Supreme Court had given the nod to Al Gore instead of George Bush, might they have averted that never-ending, never-contracting war on terrorism? No doubt the 9/11 attacks would still have occurred and some U.S. military action would have ensued. But Gore did not share the obsession with Saddam Hussein that infected members of the Bush-Cheney axis. Arguably, a President Gore would have been less likely than President Bush to insist on invading a country that had played no part in the al-Qaeda conspiracy.
     
    Prof. Bacevich is far more intelligent than this paragraph indicates, but he let his personal hatred interfere with his ability to reason objectively.

    First, the Supreme Court did not "choose a president on our behalf." The Gore campaign, along with partisan hacks in the state courts, came up with a Machiavellian scheme to rig the recounts in Florida until Gore won. The Supreme Court rightly put an end to Gore's brazen attempt at naked election fraud.

    Second, the supposition that Gore would not have invaded Iraq is purely counterfactual conjecture. Possibly he wouldn't have invaded Iraq, but he might have done something else equally stupid. After all, the Clinton administration under which he served for eight years officially believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, enforced the no-fly zone over Iraq, and ordered 650 bombing sorties against Iraq the night before the House was to vote on impeachment in "Operation Desert Fox." The Clinton administration also put the U.S. military into Bosnia and Kosovo, bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, sent troops to Haiti, presided over the "Blackhawk Down" disaster in Somalia, the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen, and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. They also refused to pursue Osama bin Laden on either terrorism or criminal charges and reportedly turned down a deal to capture him. (They did, however, go after the Branch Davidians and Elian Gonzalez).

    What makes you think that Gore knew any more about foreign policy than Bush?

    Ah of course there was no corruption in the vote in Fla.,but yet Bush the stupid said don’t worry Jebby says its in the bag,this was before it had been decided by the recount,Bush and the high court.I wonder what it is about foolish people (Comes with the genes I guess) that it makes little difference in how you vote it still remains the same,as long as we can blame it on to someone else..

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  96. Alden says:
    @anonymous
    No. The Germans were invited to assist an illegal military coup, like the Soviets helping Castro. The Soviets however were legally invited to assist the Spanish government which had been duly elected in February, like the United States assisting S. Vietnam.

    You neglected to mention that as soon as the soviets arrived they murdered all the socialists who invited them and took over the Republican government.

    Viva Franco!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    He whipped the commies as every other 20th century leader bowed in acquiescence.

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  97. @WorkingClass

    Instead he’s a smug Izzy-firster, lobotomized by the likes of Adelson and Netanyahoo. No better than any other smug doofus.
     
    You left out Jared.

    Yes Trump is a Zionist. But the criminal McCabe is gone from the FBI and I am confident others will follow. The truth is coming out about Trump's enemies whom you seem eager to aid and comfort.

    The truth is coming out about Trump’s enemies whom you seem eager to aid and comfort.

    Aid and comfort? Nah; they can all go to the deepest pits in Hades for all I care. They all suck, and the higher ya go, the worse they suck.

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  98. I’m teaching my dog to use a typewriter, and he’s making real progress. I’m confident that one day soon Rufus can submit an article to Unz, since Professor Bacevich herein demonstrates that insight and intellectual cohesion are no longer prerequisites for publication.

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  99. Alden says:
    @Anonymous
    Trump is a product of the times within which we live. Perhaps it's time to acknowledge that this thing of ours no longer works. That our constitution-- a relic of a (late 18th) century when there weren't even any political parties as currently understood--needs to be overhauled.

    A Second Constitutional Convention anyone?

    Doesn’t matter if we have a constitution or not. Judges make our laws.

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    Correct. Any literate person can read the constitution and know what it says. But only nine people on earth know what it means. It's surprising how few people see the problem here. The Supreme Court should be replaced with a jury.
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  100. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    It is shtuka and not stuka. Do not argue with me. You loose. I was there when they flew over.
    Everybody did call them Shtukas They were Germans in the crowd.

    It is shtuka and not stuka.

    It’s either in American English, which seems the default language here at UR.

    Anyway, I built a model Stuka and flew it on a string way back when, so I’m familiar with the term.

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  101. Alden says:
    @TheOldOne
    I'm not the decider here, but based on this post, the writings of Mr. Bacevich contribute very little to this site and should be dropped by Mr. Unz.

    Nome sayin.

    Oh I don’t know. The article gave us or at least me a lot of fun to while away the evening while most channels had the state of the union nonsense.

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  102. Alden says:
    @jilles dykstra
    In my opinion from the other side of the Atlantic the question is 'how did it take so long for the USA people that they needed someone from outside the political crowd ?'.

    Can someone enlighten me, are the identical coats the former presidents wear bullet proof ?
    In Europe I just saw these coats on French president Hollande, and Dutch politician Wilders.

    Very perceptive. Pres Regean wore a bullet proof vest the day he was shot. The bullet entered side ways through the underarm and almost hit his heart.

    I think they all do, especially at this inauguration with Trump so hated.

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  103. @jimbojones
    How about Trump just ran a strong campaign with a strong platform against a weak candidate with a weak platform? And the only reason Trump didn't win biglier was the unprecedented concentration and breadth of forces arrayed against him - almost the entire media, significant proportions of the Republican party, the entire Democratic party, significant elements of the intelligence agencies, etc.

    One can divide presidential policy into economic policy, foreign policy, and cultural policy.
    - Trump's economic policy is a great success. Obama did not make this economy - Trump did. I can tell you why - because as a real builder of real things, Trump realizes that the economy is about making stuff. (For a true "service economy" look no further than Zimbabwe or Bangladesh.) And he has been promoting production from the get-go.
    - Trump's foreign policy is tolerable. The destruction of ISIS and salvation of Syria are great achievements. Beyond that, Trump hasn't started new wars, which is good.
    - On the cultural front, Trump is providing welcome respite from, and a correction to, the topsy-turby world of murderous thuggish gentle giants, failed green utopianism exemplified by Solyndra, global warming alarmism, transgederism mania, and so on.

    So yeah - Trump won because he was a good candidate with a good platform. And he is doing great.

    The idea that Trump made this economy is a farce. Other than the fact that some got all excited that Trump was POTUS other than Hiliary how did Trump, what did he do to change the economy in such a short time frame? irrational exuberance is all it is.

    Like dropping a few regulations and passing a tax bill a month a go suddenly changed everything.

    He claims credit for a low unemployment rate and doesn’t even give lip service to the 96 million Americans who have withdraw from the work force, he lies like Obama and all the pols do.

    Campaign Trump and POTUS Trump are two different critters and thank god Hiliary isn’t POTUS.

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  104. Alden says:
    @Jake
    The two opening paragraphs are so imbued with sufficient cuckservatism that I wonder if Becevich is angling for a well paid job at The Weekly Standard or The National Review.

    The long meandering introductory paragraphs come right from the National Review style book.

    I wondered why he didn’t go back the Kennedy’s asassination or the 1925 immigration acts

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  105. How we got stuck with sucking up to Israel. Even intelligent people get duped. That’s not to say that Humpty Trump is smart in any way. Anyway he’s just another Izzy-first useful idiot.

    When she learned about the Holocaust as a teenager, Krim identified with Jews.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/01/secret-life-mathilde/

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  106. Whoa.

    Dr, Bacivic and I disagree on a bundle. But as an advocate against unnecessary war, needless government waste, fraud, and bankruptcy that inhabits Washington politics his positions are far more devastating than many here.

    In short his position is had any other candidate in the Republican party embraced any of the positions that most voters espoused Mr Trump would not be pres. trump and that’s probably true. In fact, what Pres trump said repeatedly throughout his life in answering the question is that he would only run if things got really bad.Laughing. And in my view things have gotten worse than bad. And Pres trump is to be the embodiment of the voices already making the case.

    The problem in my view is that he is abandoning the case more and more. And as someone who had nothing to gain personally by his election — my disappointment is palpable. I would agree that his very presence is revealing some deep and troubling truths about how things are run — and by the way, Pres ‘s tenure is confirming observations made Dr. Bacivic and Phillip Giraldi and others — long before Mr Trump came on scene.

    The assumption that anyone’s kids have been passed over because of color has very little support. it’s myopic and looking at the numbers suggests misguided. Because the greatest benefactors from set asides designed as redress have bone to whites, especially white women. I used to whine about this form of redress, before i understood what it was. What it was designed to do. Who and actually benefited and why. It’s not blacks, despite appearances. And if it were, as much as I might hate to admit it — the data would support the following retort by light years of impact on blacks.

    “I flew planes to defend bombers in WWII. When I got home none of my kids were permitted into the colleges of their choice because of skin color and that went on all of my life. I got letters from family and friends that were required to serve German prisoners and even sit in the worse seats – backs of theaters as our enemies were catered in the front. Angry, you don’t know what angry is. ”

    I am will defend Pres Trump, but I am not going to knowingly lie for him. I don’t even lie for myself.

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  107. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I thought Monty Python was a joke.

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  108. @renfro

    I will tend to support him, despite our differences. That’s the mind of a coach, facilitator, instructor and business owner.
     
    More like the mind of a man who doesn't know when to stop digging his own hole.

    I will plead slow on the uptick here.

    Explain.

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  109. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Personally I do not want to get into this kind of discussion and I still do not.
    But you have a right for my answer so I will make an exception.
    In order to answer your question we have to solve one problem.

    In case of murder for hire, who has the greater guilt, the person who hires the murderer or the person who performs the murder?

    My opinion is without doubt, that person who performs the murder has a greater guilt.
    In order for society to eliminate or at least limit murders for hire the society must deal with one of these group.
    Society cannot deal with people who have means to hire a person for murder, because they are innocent until the moment hiring. On the other hand society have a chance to interfere with people who commit the murder because of their previous activities.

    To transfer this principle to your question, the Academia are those who hire,
    and politicians are those who do the deeds.
    How can Government to influence academia I do have to admit that I do not have a clue.

    I think there is something the Feds could do about education. They could set up a Federal University which would assemble a comprehensive collection of online educational resources and organize mechanism to connect students studying online with tutors in their local community.

    Such an institution would allow young people to study in their spare time while they are engaged in gainful employment. The heart of the system would be the tutorial system. It would require the development of software to manage online communications — one might pay by the byte to communicate with tutors.

    In addition, there would be tutorial rooms made available, not on broad and expensive campuses with sports teams and million dollar coaches, but in downtown office buildings, where students could engage with others pursuing the same topics as themselves under a tutor’s guidance. This would eliminate the need for student loans while adding four or more years to every university graduates working life.

    The result?

    The bankruptcy of half of America’s university’s within ten to 15 years, as predicted by Harvard business school prof Clayton Christensen:

    Harvard Business School professor: Half of American colleges will be bankrupt in 10 to 15 years

    It would also mean an end to useless university bureaucrats, and and end to the university’s role as a Commie brainwashing operation.

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  110. Joe Walker says: • Website

    A major reason we got Trump is that Obama spent a large part of his presidency trying to incite race riots through his lackeys in the Black Lives Matter movement.

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    Only racist slaves see blacks in ghettos as their enemies, rather than as their fellow slaves. Only stupid people don't realize we all live as slaves. Obama was appointed so that everyone would talk about race while he made it legal to assassinate anyone anywhere at any time with drones. You got Trump because your masters choose him for you - the same old Empire first, the rich second, and everything else later.
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  111. Sam J. says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    . His charges were not without merit. Yet when Perot lost, Washington was back to business as usual. We cannot know what a Perot presidency would have produced.

    Here is the reality about American voters. 99% of American voter never knew that Perot existed.
    The remaining1% thought that Perot was a Frenchman.

    “…99% of American voter never knew that Perot existed…”

    Your numbers are wrong as he got more than 1% of the vote. If he got more than 1% of the vote then it’s obvious that more than 1% knew who he was.

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    "...do not argue wish me, you are schtupid. I will win!"
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  112. “2010: Mitch McConnell Chooses Party Over Country.”

    This whole article is a target-rich environment, but I’ll take this one.

    First of all, Mitch has been “bipartisan” on too many occasions for the good of the country. Mitch chooses Mitch over party and country every time. The whole point to political parties is to gather enough like-minds to advance an agenda you believe, or at least state you believe, is best for the country. The Dems do this very well. They might privately hate each other, but when the Repubes mount a serious threat on any, perhaps all of their issues, they circle the wagons almost unanimously. The Repubes are hard-pressed on even their most cherished issues to muster a majority, particularly in the Senate, a fine testimony that, more often than not, Mitch is incapable of imposing party discipline, much less putting party over country.

    Who is to say that Barak Obama was what was best for the country, much less his last Supreme Court nominee? Or that Donald Trump is the devil incarnate who will destroy America? Post hoc ergo propter hoc: The fact that your personal political views lean in a given direction does not necessarily mean that is what is best for the country.

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  113. Rurik says:
    @Jeff77450
    Mr. Bacevich, good article. You make a number of valid points, several of which hadn't occurred to me. You're probably smarter than I am. My answer to the question of how we got DJT would've been something like: For ~fifty years Mainstream America--the descendants of those pioneers who created America and who did the overwhelming majority of the fighting-and-dying in our many wars--watched as others, i.e. blacks & Latinos, but also other new arrivals, were moved to the head of the line for college admissions and certain jobs. They watched as major immigration policies were forced on them from the top down with effectively no national debate. They watched as they saw themselves become an ever-smaller percentage of the nation. They watched as many of their American Graffiti/Norman Rockwell-esque communities got transformed into something less desirable. They watched as their jobs were sent overseas. They watched as their values & traditions were trashed. Finally, in 2016 they collectively said to themselves, "This is like the time when the skunk and the porcupine were having sex and one said to another, 'Enough of this is enough'" and they voted for Donald J. Trump.

    They watched as many of their American Graffiti/Norman Rockwell-esque communities got transformed into something less desirable. They watched as their jobs were sent overseas. They watched as their values & traditions were trashed.

    I checked this guy out

    Andrew J. Bacevich, Sr. is an American historian specializing in international relations, security studies, American foreign policy, and American diplomatic and military history. He is a Professor Emeritus of International Relations and History at the Boston University Frederick S. Pardee School of Global Studies.

    Now, with that resume, what has Bacevich had to say about formerly white nation that has let non-whites take charge. Surely there are lessons there for the future white minority of America, no?

    So, I looked for what Mr. Bacevich has written about Zimbabwe, being as he’s a specialist in international relations, American foreign policy, diplomacy and Professor Emeritus of International Relations and History at the Boston University Frederick S. Pardee School of Global Studies!

    Surely a guy like this has had an opinion about a nation that has done what he no doubt obviously proposes for the ZUSA, and forsakes its evil white privilege to embrace social justice and racial equality, no?

    So, doing an Internet search for his wise counsel vis-a-vis Zimbabwe, we find exactly this:

    OK, maybe he’s never heard of Zimbabwe.

    So let’s look at some other issues of international import that Mr. Bacevich has chimed in on…

    there is this:

    The battle for truth over Saudi Arabia’s ties to 9/11

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0427-bacevich-28-pages-saudi-911-20160427-story.html

    this was penned in April, 2016

    so this imbecile has carefully avoided any research into the fact that 9/11 was obviously lied about, and that only a complete dunderhead still believes in the 19 ”terrorists” with box cutters. A dunderhead, or a professional liar.

    here he is on Israeli warmongering:

    Whether using tanks to conquer or assassins to liquidate, adherence to this knee-to-the-groin paradigm has won Israel few friends in the region and few admirers around the world (Americans notably excepted). The likelihood of this approach eliminating or even diminishing Arab or Iranian hostility toward Israel appears less than promising. That said, the approach has thus far succeeded in preserving and even expanding the Jewish state: more than 60 years after its founding, Israel persists and even prospers. By this rough but not inconsequential measure, the Israeli security concept has succeeded. Okay, it’s nasty: but so far at least, it’s worked.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-we-became-israel/

    worked for whom Mr. Bacevich? Has it “worked” for the Palestinians per chance?

    The average Israeli had long since become inured to reports of IDF incursions into southern Lebanon or Gaza.

    what about the residents of Gaza? Have they too become “inured”?

    And isn’t that nice the way he says the average Israeli has become “inured”, as if they’re so put upon by these incursions, that they’ve had to toughen up. Here they are bolstering their forbearance to these bombs dropping on Gaza. The poor dears.

    the rest of the article talks about ZUS / Israeli’s overlapping agenda, but I don’t see the word neocon mentioned even once. Perhaps Mr. Bacevich has never heard of a neocon or William Kristol or Sheldon Adelson…

    But then, it’s not like he’s a professional that specializes in American foreign policy, or American diplomatic and international relations after all. So I guess you can’t expect him to understand just why it is that America slavishly acts as Israel’s bitch. Even as he writes articles bewildered over the phenomena.

    Here he describes Hillary as “an impeccably credentialed graduate of Wellesley and Yale who had served as first lady, United States senator, and secretary of state.”

    https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-is-not-the-problem/

    so, in short, and with my admittedly limited research capabilities, it seems that for Mr. Bacevich, Israeli’s behavior is plucky and ‘successful’. American’s warmongering is wrong-headed, but has nothing whatsoever to do with neocons or disloyal duel citizens or Jewish intrigues and treachery to corrupt America’s foreign policy towards the war agenda. It’s just Americans being stupid, and probably just another dire consequence of the privilege (and racism) of “the angry and ignorant white males” – Les Deplorables he seems to deplore so earnestly.

    but I wanted to know, does his rank and vile dishonesty pervade his entire body of work, or is his virtue signaling vis-a-vis his contempt for working class white men an aberration. Sadly, it seems the former is the case.

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    Sure don't want to be on your [email protected]@t list, Rurik.
    Your take-down of Bacevich is intelligent, informed, and devastating.
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  114. “an impeccably credentialed graduate of Wellesley and Yale who had served HERSELF as first lady, United States senator, and secretary of state.”

    There y’go, Andy. I fixed it for you.

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  115. Corvinus says:
    @Moi
    Nope, the elephant in the room is that America, in a period of less than 50 years, went from being about 80 percent white to 60 percent white. What used to be America no longer exists because its leaders sold it out.

    “Nope, the elephant in the room is that America, in a period of less than 50 years, went from being about 80 percent white to 60 percent white.”

    The same argument was made how the America went from primarily English to non-English with the infusion of Germans and Irish by the 1860′s.

    Are you non-English? Then you must go back.

    “What used to be America no longer exists because its leaders sold it out.”

    What used to be America is still America–a nation based on the proposition. Always has been, always will be.

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    The same argument was made how the America went from primarily English to non-English with the infusion of Germans and Irish by the 1860′s.

    Are you non-English? Then you must go back.
     

    WN wiggers will never understand this. The definition of 'white' keeps expanding in the US. Even the Irish were not considered 'white' in 1890 America (I had to school even Ron Unz about that).

    Add to that the most under-discussed aspect of HBD : The extremely high variance within whites.

    While young Asian women all fall between 5 and 8 in the looks scale, white women occupy the full 1-10 range. The variance is very high.

    White men, similarly, generate the most brilliant people ever, but also a bottom 20% underclass of white men that are even less intelligent than blacks (these men tend to become WN losers, and are thus the male counterparts of the fat bluehaired feminists).

    The entire modern WN narrative is extremely false, and is just a plea by untalented bottom-tier white males for intra-white socialism. It is hence extremely similar to BLM and radical feminism, in that all three groups want to mooch from the same host - successful whites (and some Asian Americans).

    , @Saxon
    Show me this "proposition nation" in the writings of the founders. You can't. This pilpul of yours doesn't work on anyone who's read the founding documents including the first immigration and naturalization act of 1790.

    I am English, by the way. You have to go back.
    , @Moi
    You say: "What used to be America is still America–a nation based on the proposition. Always has been, always will be."

    I guess you think the founders would approve of the Patriot Act...
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  116. Thomm says:
    @Corvinus
    "Nope, the elephant in the room is that America, in a period of less than 50 years, went from being about 80 percent white to 60 percent white."

    The same argument was made how the America went from primarily English to non-English with the infusion of Germans and Irish by the 1860's.

    Are you non-English? Then you must go back.

    "What used to be America no longer exists because its leaders sold it out."

    What used to be America is still America--a nation based on the proposition. Always has been, always will be.

    The same argument was made how the America went from primarily English to non-English with the infusion of Germans and Irish by the 1860′s.

    Are you non-English? Then you must go back.

    WN wiggers will never understand this. The definition of ‘white’ keeps expanding in the US. Even the Irish were not considered ‘white’ in 1890 America (I had to school even Ron Unz about that).

    Add to that the most under-discussed aspect of HBD : The extremely high variance within whites.

    While young Asian women all fall between 5 and 8 in the looks scale, white women occupy the full 1-10 range. The variance is very high.

    White men, similarly, generate the most brilliant people ever, but also a bottom 20% underclass of white men that are even less intelligent than blacks (these men tend to become WN losers, and are thus the male counterparts of the fat bluehaired feminists).

    The entire modern WN narrative is extremely false, and is just a plea by untalented bottom-tier white males for intra-white socialism. It is hence extremely similar to BLM and radical feminism, in that all three groups want to mooch from the same host – successful whites (and some Asian Americans).

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    mfw Thomm thinks the definition of white will "expand" to include him even though Germans, Italians, Irish and any of the groups according to the common j-left mythology he's citing were never considered non-white in America and never denied immigration and citizenship.
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  117. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    You neglected to mention that as soon as the soviets arrived they murdered all the socialists who invited them and took over the Republican government.

    Viva Franco!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    He whipped the commies as every other 20th century leader bowed in acquiescence.

    He was a pig with no respect for the will of the people.

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    Franco wasn’t even in Spain when the people rose against the Russian Jewish communists who murdered the duly elected socialist government and began looting massacring and raping.

    You need to read the real history of that war not the commie garbage you learned in college.

    One good thing the communists did, they recruited a lot of American useful idiot communist for their Abraham Lincoln Brigade fighting against Franconand the people of Spain.

    The communists put the Lincoln Brigade in the from lines to bear the burnt of the fighting and the American useful idiots got slaughtered Wonderful!!!!!
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  118. Zumbuddi says:

    Where did this “leader of the free world” nonsense come from, and isn’t it time we stopped amplifying it?

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    It began with Wilson:
    Charles Callan Tansill, 'Amerika geht in den Krieg', Stuttgart 1939 (America goes to War, 1938)
    For clarity, the book is about WWI.
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  119. I stopped reading when I got to your remarks about the climate change hoax. If you buy into that fairly tale, nothing else you say or said is reliable.

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    In France recently a book was published about this hoax, the author was fired immediately.
    The few Dutch who dare to speak out against what they see as hoax hardly get the possibility to say what they want.
    Whenever I express my doubts, discussion ends.
    Yet I can produce a list of some six or more books on climate, none of my opponents ever read a book on the subject.
    I'm expecting the next ice age.
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  120. Zumbuddi says:
    @Rurik

    They watched as many of their American Graffiti/Norman Rockwell-esque communities got transformed into something less desirable. They watched as their jobs were sent overseas. They watched as their values & traditions were trashed.
     
    I checked this guy out

    Andrew J. Bacevich, Sr. is an American historian specializing in international relations, security studies, American foreign policy, and American diplomatic and military history. He is a Professor Emeritus of International Relations and History at the Boston University Frederick S. Pardee School of Global Studies.
     
    Now, with that resume, what has Bacevich had to say about formerly white nation that has let non-whites take charge. Surely there are lessons there for the future white minority of America, no?

    So, I looked for what Mr. Bacevich has written about Zimbabwe, being as he's a specialist in international relations, American foreign policy, diplomacy and Professor Emeritus of International Relations and History at the Boston University Frederick S. Pardee School of Global Studies!

    Surely a guy like this has had an opinion about a nation that has done what he no doubt obviously proposes for the ZUSA, and forsakes its evil white privilege to embrace social justice and racial equality, no?

    So, doing an Internet search for his wise counsel vis-a-vis Zimbabwe, we find exactly this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

    OK, maybe he's never heard of Zimbabwe.

    So let's look at some other issues of international import that Mr. Bacevich has chimed in on...

    there is this:

    The battle for truth over Saudi Arabia's ties to 9/11

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0427-bacevich-28-pages-saudi-911-20160427-story.html

    this was penned in April, 2016

    so this imbecile has carefully avoided any research into the fact that 9/11 was obviously lied about, and that only a complete dunderhead still believes in the 19 ''terrorists" with box cutters. A dunderhead, or a professional liar.

    here he is on Israeli warmongering:

    Whether using tanks to conquer or assassins to liquidate, adherence to this knee-to-the-groin paradigm has won Israel few friends in the region and few admirers around the world (Americans notably excepted). The likelihood of this approach eliminating or even diminishing Arab or Iranian hostility toward Israel appears less than promising. That said, the approach has thus far succeeded in preserving and even expanding the Jewish state: more than 60 years after its founding, Israel persists and even prospers. By this rough but not inconsequential measure, the Israeli security concept has succeeded. Okay, it’s nasty: but so far at least, it’s worked.
     
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-we-became-israel/

    worked for whom Mr. Bacevich? Has it "worked" for the Palestinians per chance?

    The average Israeli had long since become inured to reports of IDF incursions into southern Lebanon or Gaza.
     
    what about the residents of Gaza? Have they too become "inured"?

    And isn't that nice the way he says the average Israeli has become "inured", as if they're so put upon by these incursions, that they've had to toughen up. Here they are bolstering their forbearance to these bombs dropping on Gaza. The poor dears.

    http://www.alternativeinsight.com/rocket_fire-2.jpg

    the rest of the article talks about ZUS / Israeli's overlapping agenda, but I don't see the word neocon mentioned even once. Perhaps Mr. Bacevich has never heard of a neocon or William Kristol or Sheldon Adelson...

    But then, it's not like he's a professional that specializes in American foreign policy, or American diplomatic and international relations after all. So I guess you can't expect him to understand just why it is that America slavishly acts as Israel's bitch. Even as he writes articles bewildered over the phenomena.

    Here he describes Hillary as "an impeccably credentialed graduate of Wellesley and Yale who had served as first lady, United States senator, and secretary of state."

    https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-is-not-the-problem/

    so, in short, and with my admittedly limited research capabilities, it seems that for Mr. Bacevich, Israeli's behavior is plucky and 'successful'. American's warmongering is wrong-headed, but has nothing whatsoever to do with neocons or disloyal duel citizens or Jewish intrigues and treachery to corrupt America's foreign policy towards the war agenda. It's just Americans being stupid, and probably just another dire consequence of the privilege (and racism) of "the angry and ignorant white males" - Les Deplorables he seems to deplore so earnestly.

    but I wanted to know, does his rank and vile dishonesty pervade his entire body of work, or is his virtue signaling vis-a-vis his contempt for working class white men an aberration. Sadly, it seems the former is the case.

    Sure don’t want to be on your [email protected]@t list, Rurik.
    Your take-down of Bacevich is intelligent, informed, and devastating.

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    and devastating.
     
    I'd like to think so Zumbudddi,

    I bristle at pompous, preening poseurs. Smug liars and snarky cheats.

    Dishonest panderers to the lowest common filth- our elites and their mendacious matrix of lies and deceits.

    good for a working class man to wipe his boots on, perhaps, but not much good beyond that

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  121. Oh, shut up, Bacevich. Your article merely shows you do mot have a clue about real Ameticans. Trump, for all his faultes
    surely does.

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  122. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Walker
    A major reason we got Trump is that Obama spent a large part of his presidency trying to incite race riots through his lackeys in the Black Lives Matter movement.

    Only racist slaves see blacks in ghettos as their enemies, rather than as their fellow slaves. Only stupid people don’t realize we all live as slaves. Obama was appointed so that everyone would talk about race while he made it legal to assassinate anyone anywhere at any time with drones. You got Trump because your masters choose him for you – the same old Empire first, the rich second, and everything else later.

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    Imagine being this much of a pea-brained marxist class dialectic hanger-on in the current year. Yeah these hordes of racial strangers are totally my ally even though they've been incited against me and mine, and the establishment is using them in a quite literal policy of ethnic cleansing against my people.
    :^)
    , @Truth
    !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCCESmq9-vs
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  123. schrub says:

    Here are some questions:

    What was the number of times that historians Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer appeared on (gatekeeper) Amy Goodman’s TV program Democracy Now in order to discuss the Israel Lobby’s push for the war on Iraq: answer O (zero) times

    What are the number of times that Andrew Bacevich appeared on (gatekeeper) Amy Goodman’s TV program Democracy Now: 31 (thirty one) times

    This tells you everything about both Bacevich and Goodman.

    Unfortunately, a now apparently contrite and bowed Stephen Walt is attempting to receive absolution from high priestess Amy Gooman (and her sugar daddy George Soros) from the charges of antisemitism that have seriously damaged the professional careers of both him and Mearsheimer that occurred after their publication of their 2006 book on the Israel’s Lobby and the wars it pushed in the Mideast. He is doing this by going on her program and bashing Trump.

    Amy Goodamn now benefits from Walt’s appearances because she can now claim political balance , something she was never able to do in the past.

    Walt is probably on a fool;s errand however because he is dealing with a people whose principal belief is ” never forgive and never forget.” Walt is now Goodman’s pet Republican, kept on a very short and controllable leash.

    Here is a link to the book that caused to damge to Mearsheimer and Walt’s careers. The book atha cause the damage:

    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Foreign_Policy)

    Here are links to Stephen Walt on Trump:

    https://www.democracynow.org/2017/2/7/stephen_walt_from_israel_to_iran

    https://www.democracynow.org/2017/2/7/harvard_professor_to_trump_there_is

    You would think that Bacevich would be a little less accepting of the government’s easily debunked 9-11 story considering that Bacevich’s own officer son died in combat in Iraq as a result of it.

    But then again, for him to question the 9-11 story would hurt his very lucrative book sales. He knows full well that the invitations to promote his books on center/left media would quickly vanish if he were to “ask questions”.

    Apparently, when given the choice , Bacevich chose book sales and public appearances over his son’s memory.

    (1) What exactly can the Lobby do to a career. For this we have the example of (ex) Senator Charles Percy of Illinois who took on the Lobby and lost his next election in 1985 despite being a generally popular,but slightly liberal incumbent.

    But his losing was not enough for our friends. Percy had to be made an example of.. He was blacklisted from appearances on the MSM. He received no lucrative invitations to join boards of director of corporations or non profit foundations that were commonplace for prominent ex-politicians. Speaking engagements disappeared. He was no longer invited to Republican evens or conventions. He became a total non-person from the mid 1980s until his death in 2011.

    So thorough was his deliberately engineered disappearance by The Lobby that when he died in 2011 , the most common response from people was “I didn’t know he was still alive, I thought he died decades ago, soon after he lost the election”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_H._Percy

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  124. TWS says:

    How did we get Trump? Open borders, stagnant wages, outsourcing, and endless grinding attacks on American culture.

    You could have avoided Trump by addressing any or all of those concerns. Trump isn’t the bogeyman you think. He’s the establishment’s last peaceful chance.

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  125. wayfarer says:

    Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.
    – Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Rothschild Zionists & Trust Fund Children, LLC.

    Born with a Silver Spoon in Our Mouth.

    There is no greater misfortune than greed. – Tao Te Ching

    9/11 the Truth.
    source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl294zrYLzk
    source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d47oH8PS_QY

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    Great post, right on the "money".
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  126. Saxon says:
    @Anonymous
    Only racist slaves see blacks in ghettos as their enemies, rather than as their fellow slaves. Only stupid people don't realize we all live as slaves. Obama was appointed so that everyone would talk about race while he made it legal to assassinate anyone anywhere at any time with drones. You got Trump because your masters choose him for you - the same old Empire first, the rich second, and everything else later.

    Imagine being this much of a pea-brained marxist class dialectic hanger-on in the current year. Yeah these hordes of racial strangers are totally my ally even though they’ve been incited against me and mine, and the establishment is using them in a quite literal policy of ethnic cleansing against my people.
    :^)

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    American blacks aren't being used any too much for ethnic cleansing. They were, back in the 60s. But now they are an embarrassment to the powers-that-be and are being ethnically cleansed themselves.
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  127. Saxon says:
    @Thomm

    The same argument was made how the America went from primarily English to non-English with the infusion of Germans and Irish by the 1860′s.

    Are you non-English? Then you must go back.
     

    WN wiggers will never understand this. The definition of 'white' keeps expanding in the US. Even the Irish were not considered 'white' in 1890 America (I had to school even Ron Unz about that).

    Add to that the most under-discussed aspect of HBD : The extremely high variance within whites.

    While young Asian women all fall between 5 and 8 in the looks scale, white women occupy the full 1-10 range. The variance is very high.

    White men, similarly, generate the most brilliant people ever, but also a bottom 20% underclass of white men that are even less intelligent than blacks (these men tend to become WN losers, and are thus the male counterparts of the fat bluehaired feminists).

    The entire modern WN narrative is extremely false, and is just a plea by untalented bottom-tier white males for intra-white socialism. It is hence extremely similar to BLM and radical feminism, in that all three groups want to mooch from the same host - successful whites (and some Asian Americans).

    mfw Thomm thinks the definition of white will “expand” to include him even though Germans, Italians, Irish and any of the groups according to the common j-left mythology he’s citing were never considered non-white in America and never denied immigration and citizenship.

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  128. Saxon says:
    @Corvinus
    "Nope, the elephant in the room is that America, in a period of less than 50 years, went from being about 80 percent white to 60 percent white."

    The same argument was made how the America went from primarily English to non-English with the infusion of Germans and Irish by the 1860's.

    Are you non-English? Then you must go back.

    "What used to be America no longer exists because its leaders sold it out."

    What used to be America is still America--a nation based on the proposition. Always has been, always will be.

    Show me this “proposition nation” in the writings of the founders. You can’t. This pilpul of yours doesn’t work on anyone who’s read the founding documents including the first immigration and naturalization act of 1790.

    I am English, by the way. You have to go back.

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    Aelius Aristides, a Greek who received Roman citizenship in 123 A.D. stated…

    "You have divided into two parts all men throughout your empire…everywhere giving citizenship to all those who are more accomplished, noble, and powerful, even as they retain their native-born identities, while the rest you have made subjects and the governed. Neither the sea nor the great expanse of intervening land keeps one from being a citizen, and there is no distinction between Europe and Asia…No one is a foreigner who deserves to hold an office or is worthy of trust. Rather, there is here a common “world democracy” under the rule of one man, the best ruler and director…You have divided humanity into Romans and non-Romans…and because you have divided people in this manner, in every city throughout the empire there are many who share citizenship with you, no less than the share citizenship with their fellow natives. And some of these Roman citizens have not even seen this city [Rome]! There is no need for troops to garrison the strategic high points of these cities, because the most important and powerful people in each region guard their native lands for you…yet there is not a residue of resentment among those excluded [from Roman citizenship and a share in the governance of the provinces]. Because your government is both universal and like that of a single city-state, its governors rightly rule not as foreigners but, as it were, their own people…Additionally, all of the masses of subjects under this government have protection against the more powerful of their native countrymen, by virtue of your anger and vengeance, which would fall upon the more powerful without delay should they dare to break the law. Thus, the present government serves rich and poor alike, and your constitution has developed a single, harmonious, all-embracing union. What in former days seemed impossible has in your time come to pass: You control a vast empire with a rule that is firm but not unkind…”

    Ultimately, the American identity has not been lost within the past 60 years, it just has transformed, similar to when the Thirteen Colonies began as primarily British, but subsumed other European groups who were historic rivals, and eventually non-Europeans. The Welsh, the Cornish, Bavarians, the Catalans–they were distinct sub-Europeans groups, but over generations they intermingled and dispersed in our great land. Americans are a mixture of European and non-European ethnostates who, like any and all groups, self-identify. They know who they are and where they come from, and create groups who share their self-identities. Furthermore, the default for American is American and not a particular race, regardless of one’s willingness to admit it this decided fact. When you call yourself a black American or a Chinese American, you are still an American, as in residing in the nation referred as the United States. And while Yankees and Southerners and Midwesterners are clearly different, they are not separate “tribes” or “nations”, just locations with groups of people who self-identify geographically, socially, and culturally.

    This identification is the direct result of indoctrination…from our Founding Fathers. The term "proposition" is found in the first two sections of the Declaration of Independence. We were formed from political and religious refugees and migrants from a dozen European nations to start, and conjoined from the beginning with freed slaves and Native Americans. We were inspired by a great diversity of political philosophies and practices. We have welcomed immigration from the first day, explicated by the First Congress.

    Preserving rights "for one's posterity" repudiated feudalistic notions. Similar wording exists in the Federalist Papers and American law rooted in British traditions. Even accepting "Our posterity," means the descendants of those citizens only at the time of ratification, given the healthy dose of non-British in the United States who were among the ratifiers, the concept simply cannot be granted to the British exclusively. And, of course there is the naturalization clause, which assuredly had no ethnocentric provision. One could argue the slave trade clause had such had such an ethnocentric position, but it is clear it was not aimed at non-British or non-whites. And then there is the naturalization clause, which certainly had no ethnocentric provision to it.

    Posterity does NOT refer only to one's own children, but as with the synonymous "legacy" also has the broader meaning of what we leave behind. The Founding Fathers were self-consciously leaving behind other than a genetic legacy. The motto "Novus Ordo Seclorum" reflects their legacy, setting up the mechanisms of government they invented to secure liberty against tyranny. Recall Article I, Section 8, Clause 4: "The Congress shall have Power To...establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization...." By definition, naturalization extends citizenship, and all the rights and duties related to it, to an outsider, that is, someone not the posterity of a signer of the document. The Founding Fathers clearly desired "to invite foreigners of merit and republican principles among us." Indeed, the intention was whites and Europeans, but who imagined at that time non-whites and women would be able to embrace these principles? But there is no racial or gender criteria to adhering to republican ideals in the Constitution. Of course, that does not mean foreigners have the right to enter our shores, as Congress sets the standards for immigration. But the proposition remains that there are hoops for newcomers to jump through.
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  129. Right at the point where you see “Leader of the free world” you know you are dealing with a drooling dotard.

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  130. You might want to read Col Bacivic’s book,

    Washington Rules

    I am going to skip the discussion on Dr. Bacivic’s private life. I have no clue nor is it relevant to this discussion.

    I have listened to the debate over 9/11 conspiracies with a fairly open mind (in my view) and while there are plenty of answered questions and even suspicious coincidences, there are no hard links that make the conspiracy work. Suspicion does not a conspiracy make — lots of unconnected dots don’t make a circle even if they are in a circular pattern. You might want to take a look at the hijackings that occurred in the 1970′s or late 1960′s. Once on an aircraft, if your intent is to hijack the plane — all you have to do is convince the passengers and flight crew not to resist — one doesn’t need more a credible or even unknown but believable threat —

    “I have a bomb in baggage compartment”

    There are some 200 countries on the planet recognized by the UN. Zimbabwe is but one. And no one recognized as expert in international relations has to know anything about all of them or any them as per themselves. The expertise in such the field could be on any number of parameters about relations between states. Said expert may be knowledgeable about any variation from one state, to many, and in a general sense all of them. But not knowing or writing about any one state of locus to me does not deny expertise as is the case with Zimbabwe. It’s like taking a vast body of knowledge selecting single sectors or bis of data and claiming that if a person can’t answer these questions in this manner they must deficient, that is not how expertise is tested.

    In the case of Sec Clinton it was not that she was not experienced as one notes experience and credential – she was by the standards of holding office and those that supported her used that. The failure was not posts she held, but her performance that where she failed. And that is where candidate Trump pressed the debate. He rightly said, results matter. Frankly, I was disappointed when Pres Trump dropped out of the race four years earlier.

    I certainly think Israel has a right to exist. I certainly think she should be called out on her policies in Palestine. But if anyone thinks that Israel’s tactics are not working, then they don’t understand the realities on ground or Israel’s goals. And that is what makes our duplicity all the more egregious. When one uses bewilderment, one may very well be using Irony and sarcasm to make the point of contention experienced.

    I.E. Beyond me why the US keeps undermining its own citizens in favor of Mexicans coming across our borders illegally or jump tracking the VISA programs or harbored in DACA — let’s face it. It doesn’t matter what the democrats do — this President has betrayed his supporters on that point — Having to constantly iron the suits of a man of his wealth and education is tiresome. Stop pretending building the wall is such a hurdle.

    I just reread the article about the USS Liberty. Recently Mr Giraldi discussed Pollard’s release. I can don’t care who you are. If you are a US citizen, regardless of how much you know and understand it — why we are so cozy with Israel given the damage they have done to the US causes one wonder. I get the end times prophecy advance, but even I remain bewildered why so many policymakers are just numb to what the carte blanche’ consequences of being so wedded to Israel – you want to make laws against your own citizens – it’s just off the wall.

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    I have listened to the debate over 9/11 conspiracies with a fairly open mind (in my view) and while there are plenty of answered questions and even suspicious coincidences, there are no hard links that make the conspiracy work.
     
    That's no doubt the way the entire US military establishment thinks.

    It's the way the US military establishment has to think.

    Having expended several trillion dollars and killed, maimed or displaced tens of millions of people in the name of 9/11, the credibility of the US military as anything but a terrorist organization of unexcelled brutality would be entirely destroyed by acceptance of a true account of 9/11.

    That means that to consider Professor Bacevich's political views to be of the slightest validity, one must accept the official 9/11 story.

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  131. Corvinus says:
    @Saxon
    Show me this "proposition nation" in the writings of the founders. You can't. This pilpul of yours doesn't work on anyone who's read the founding documents including the first immigration and naturalization act of 1790.

    I am English, by the way. You have to go back.

    Aelius Aristides, a Greek who received Roman citizenship in 123 A.D. stated…

    “You have divided into two parts all men throughout your empire…everywhere giving citizenship to all those who are more accomplished, noble, and powerful, even as they retain their native-born identities, while the rest you have made subjects and the governed. Neither the sea nor the great expanse of intervening land keeps one from being a citizen, and there is no distinction between Europe and Asia…No one is a foreigner who deserves to hold an office or is worthy of trust. Rather, there is here a common “world democracy” under the rule of one man, the best ruler and director…You have divided humanity into Romans and non-Romans…and because you have divided people in this manner, in every city throughout the empire there are many who share citizenship with you, no less than the share citizenship with their fellow natives. And some of these Roman citizens have not even seen this city [Rome]! There is no need for troops to garrison the strategic high points of these cities, because the most important and powerful people in each region guard their native lands for you…yet there is not a residue of resentment among those excluded [from Roman citizenship and a share in the governance of the provinces]. Because your government is both universal and like that of a single city-state, its governors rightly rule not as foreigners but, as it were, their own people…Additionally, all of the masses of subjects under this government have protection against the more powerful of their native countrymen, by virtue of your anger and vengeance, which would fall upon the more powerful without delay should they dare to break the law. Thus, the present government serves rich and poor alike, and your constitution has developed a single, harmonious, all-embracing union. What in former days seemed impossible has in your time come to pass: You control a vast empire with a rule that is firm but not unkind…”

    Ultimately, the American identity has not been lost within the past 60 years, it just has transformed, similar to when the Thirteen Colonies began as primarily British, but subsumed other European groups who were historic rivals, and eventually non-Europeans. The Welsh, the Cornish, Bavarians, the Catalans–they were distinct sub-Europeans groups, but over generations they intermingled and dispersed in our great land. Americans are a mixture of European and non-European ethnostates who, like any and all groups, self-identify. They know who they are and where they come from, and create groups who share their self-identities. Furthermore, the default for American is American and not a particular race, regardless of one’s willingness to admit it this decided fact. When you call yourself a black American or a Chinese American, you are still an American, as in residing in the nation referred as the United States. And while Yankees and Southerners and Midwesterners are clearly different, they are not separate “tribes” or “nations”, just locations with groups of people who self-identify geographically, socially, and culturally.

    This identification is the direct result of indoctrination…from our Founding Fathers. The term “proposition” is found in the first two sections of the Declaration of Independence. We were formed from political and religious refugees and migrants from a dozen European nations to start, and conjoined from the beginning with freed slaves and Native Americans. We were inspired by a great diversity of political philosophies and practices. We have welcomed immigration from the first day, explicated by the First Congress.

    Preserving rights “for one’s posterity” repudiated feudalistic notions. Similar wording exists in the Federalist Papers and American law rooted in British traditions. Even accepting “Our posterity,” means the descendants of those citizens only at the time of ratification, given the healthy dose of non-British in the United States who were among the ratifiers, the concept simply cannot be granted to the British exclusively. And, of course there is the naturalization clause, which assuredly had no ethnocentric provision. One could argue the slave trade clause had such had such an ethnocentric position, but it is clear it was not aimed at non-British or non-whites. And then there is the naturalization clause, which certainly had no ethnocentric provision to it.

    Posterity does NOT refer only to one’s own children, but as with the synonymous “legacy” also has the broader meaning of what we leave behind. The Founding Fathers were self-consciously leaving behind other than a genetic legacy. The motto “Novus Ordo Seclorum” reflects their legacy, setting up the mechanisms of government they invented to secure liberty against tyranny. Recall Article I, Section 8, Clause 4: “The Congress shall have Power To…establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization….” By definition, naturalization extends citizenship, and all the rights and duties related to it, to an outsider, that is, someone not the posterity of a signer of the document. The Founding Fathers clearly desired “to invite foreigners of merit and republican principles among us.” Indeed, the intention was whites and Europeans, but who imagined at that time non-whites and women would be able to embrace these principles? But there is no racial or gender criteria to adhering to republican ideals in the Constitution. Of course, that does not mean foreigners have the right to enter our shores, as Congress sets the standards for immigration. But the proposition remains that there are hoops for newcomers to jump through.

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    The Roman Empire, like every propositional empire before or since, no longer exists. Without exception, they eventually devolve into their constituent nations. The American fault lines are patent, just a matter of when and how.
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  132. https://www.tgd.de/2018/01/30/deutschland-braucht-ein-klares-bekenntnis-zur-einwanderungsgesellschaft/

    Not many in the USA can read German, I suppose.
    Migrant organisations in Germany, also respresenting those with German nationality, but with migrant background, demand that ethnic Germans adapt to what I had best call ‘new Germans’, and/or accept a multi cultural society.

    The letter reminds me of how Russian jews resisted assimilation, leading in the end to the bolsjewist coup at the end of 1917, and of how in Germany from 1870 on antisemitism began.

    Already in 2001 or 2002 in Miami I, and my wife, were ignored in certain places when we spoke english.
    My wife speaks spanish, the moment she used that language anything changed.

    Farsighted people in Europe predict civil wars, migrants, and their descendants against those with roots in the European countries going back hundreds of years.
    The USA Civil War hardly was a civil war, I do hope the USA is not heading towards a real civil war.
    So I wonder if (also ?) here Trump is as stupid as many think he is.

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    Already in 2001 or 2002 in Miami I, and my wife, were ignored in certain places when we spoke english.
     
    Why didn't you teach her Hebrew then?
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  133. Moi says:
    @Corvinus
    "Nope, the elephant in the room is that America, in a period of less than 50 years, went from being about 80 percent white to 60 percent white."

    The same argument was made how the America went from primarily English to non-English with the infusion of Germans and Irish by the 1860's.

    Are you non-English? Then you must go back.

    "What used to be America no longer exists because its leaders sold it out."

    What used to be America is still America--a nation based on the proposition. Always has been, always will be.

    You say: “What used to be America is still America–a nation based on the proposition. Always has been, always will be.”

    I guess you think the founders would approve of the Patriot Act…

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  134. @Corvinus
    Aelius Aristides, a Greek who received Roman citizenship in 123 A.D. stated…

    "You have divided into two parts all men throughout your empire…everywhere giving citizenship to all those who are more accomplished, noble, and powerful, even as they retain their native-born identities, while the rest you have made subjects and the governed. Neither the sea nor the great expanse of intervening land keeps one from being a citizen, and there is no distinction between Europe and Asia…No one is a foreigner who deserves to hold an office or is worthy of trust. Rather, there is here a common “world democracy” under the rule of one man, the best ruler and director…You have divided humanity into Romans and non-Romans…and because you have divided people in this manner, in every city throughout the empire there are many who share citizenship with you, no less than the share citizenship with their fellow natives. And some of these Roman citizens have not even seen this city [Rome]! There is no need for troops to garrison the strategic high points of these cities, because the most important and powerful people in each region guard their native lands for you…yet there is not a residue of resentment among those excluded [from Roman citizenship and a share in the governance of the provinces]. Because your government is both universal and like that of a single city-state, its governors rightly rule not as foreigners but, as it were, their own people…Additionally, all of the masses of subjects under this government have protection against the more powerful of their native countrymen, by virtue of your anger and vengeance, which would fall upon the more powerful without delay should they dare to break the law. Thus, the present government serves rich and poor alike, and your constitution has developed a single, harmonious, all-embracing union. What in former days seemed impossible has in your time come to pass: You control a vast empire with a rule that is firm but not unkind…”

    Ultimately, the American identity has not been lost within the past 60 years, it just has transformed, similar to when the Thirteen Colonies began as primarily British, but subsumed other European groups who were historic rivals, and eventually non-Europeans. The Welsh, the Cornish, Bavarians, the Catalans–they were distinct sub-Europeans groups, but over generations they intermingled and dispersed in our great land. Americans are a mixture of European and non-European ethnostates who, like any and all groups, self-identify. They know who they are and where they come from, and create groups who share their self-identities. Furthermore, the default for American is American and not a particular race, regardless of one’s willingness to admit it this decided fact. When you call yourself a black American or a Chinese American, you are still an American, as in residing in the nation referred as the United States. And while Yankees and Southerners and Midwesterners are clearly different, they are not separate “tribes” or “nations”, just locations with groups of people who self-identify geographically, socially, and culturally.

    This identification is the direct result of indoctrination…from our Founding Fathers. The term "proposition" is found in the first two sections of the Declaration of Independence. We were formed from political and religious refugees and migrants from a dozen European nations to start, and conjoined from the beginning with freed slaves and Native Americans. We were inspired by a great diversity of political philosophies and practices. We have welcomed immigration from the first day, explicated by the First Congress.

    Preserving rights "for one's posterity" repudiated feudalistic notions. Similar wording exists in the Federalist Papers and American law rooted in British traditions. Even accepting "Our posterity," means the descendants of those citizens only at the time of ratification, given the healthy dose of non-British in the United States who were among the ratifiers, the concept simply cannot be granted to the British exclusively. And, of course there is the naturalization clause, which assuredly had no ethnocentric provision. One could argue the slave trade clause had such had such an ethnocentric position, but it is clear it was not aimed at non-British or non-whites. And then there is the naturalization clause, which certainly had no ethnocentric provision to it.

    Posterity does NOT refer only to one's own children, but as with the synonymous "legacy" also has the broader meaning of what we leave behind. The Founding Fathers were self-consciously leaving behind other than a genetic legacy. The motto "Novus Ordo Seclorum" reflects their legacy, setting up the mechanisms of government they invented to secure liberty against tyranny. Recall Article I, Section 8, Clause 4: "The Congress shall have Power To...establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization...." By definition, naturalization extends citizenship, and all the rights and duties related to it, to an outsider, that is, someone not the posterity of a signer of the document. The Founding Fathers clearly desired "to invite foreigners of merit and republican principles among us." Indeed, the intention was whites and Europeans, but who imagined at that time non-whites and women would be able to embrace these principles? But there is no racial or gender criteria to adhering to republican ideals in the Constitution. Of course, that does not mean foreigners have the right to enter our shores, as Congress sets the standards for immigration. But the proposition remains that there are hoops for newcomers to jump through.

    The Roman Empire, like every propositional empire before or since, no longer exists. Without exception, they eventually devolve into their constituent nations. The American fault lines are patent, just a matter of when and how.

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    The USA stew, not a melting pot, the original ingredients all still are there, does hardly have fault lines, except maybe Miami, and states like Iowa.
    But even there, stew, catholics against protestants, as I experienced.
    What Brussels tries desperately is to create a European stew, one method is making people migrate all over the EU.
    Alas culture and language barriers prevent this to a large extent.
    Though many in the EU do speak some english, in most cases it is far from being fluent.
    When in France, those that think they speak english know so little of the language that after a few sentences I propose to change to my french, not fluent, but far better than their english.
    In Germany the same, with exceptions, I must add.
    , @Corvinus
    "The Roman Empire, like every propositional empire before or since, no longer exists."

    While 'tis true there are several shared traits, the moving parts for the Roman Empire and the United States are unique for their time period. America had interest overseas, the Romans had overseas interests. Big difference there.

    Moreover, with today's reliance on technology, the influence of the global economy, and America's own mutt identity, the odds that the United States will break up Yugoslavia-style are virtually impossible. Free free to dream! But I would be worried if such an event took place--lawyers such as yourself would be strung up on poles and be beaten like pinatas. Hope you have Cadillac health insurance.

    "Without exception, they eventually devolve into their constituent nations."

    Had that been the case, the English would have ensured that the Germans and Irish--groups deemed to be alien societies by nativists--been removed by force. But because of intermarriage between ethnic groups and between races, along with Generation Z's penchant for inclusion, the mortar has filled in those fault lines. Cracks will remain, and they may even get bigger, but the cement is both strong and flexible.
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  135. @The Anti-Gnostic
    The Roman Empire, like every propositional empire before or since, no longer exists. Without exception, they eventually devolve into their constituent nations. The American fault lines are patent, just a matter of when and how.

    The USA stew, not a melting pot, the original ingredients all still are there, does hardly have fault lines, except maybe Miami, and states like Iowa.
    But even there, stew, catholics against protestants, as I experienced.
    What Brussels tries desperately is to create a European stew, one method is making people migrate all over the EU.
    Alas culture and language barriers prevent this to a large extent.
    Though many in the EU do speak some english, in most cases it is far from being fluent.
    When in France, those that think they speak english know so little of the language that after a few sentences I propose to change to my french, not fluent, but far better than their english.
    In Germany the same, with exceptions, I must add.

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  136. @John Henry
    I stopped reading when I got to your remarks about the climate change hoax. If you buy into that fairly tale, nothing else you say or said is reliable.

    In France recently a book was published about this hoax, the author was fired immediately.
    The few Dutch who dare to speak out against what they see as hoax hardly get the possibility to say what they want.
    Whenever I express my doubts, discussion ends.
    Yet I can produce a list of some six or more books on climate, none of my opponents ever read a book on the subject.
    I’m expecting the next ice age.

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  137. @Zumbuddi
    Where did this "leader of the free world" nonsense come from, and isn't it time we stopped amplifying it?

    It began with Wilson:
    Charles Callan Tansill, ‘Amerika geht in den Krieg’, Stuttgart 1939 (America goes to War, 1938)
    For clarity, the book is about WWI.

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  138. Rurik says:
    @Zumbuddi
    Sure don't want to be on your [email protected]@t list, Rurik.
    Your take-down of Bacevich is intelligent, informed, and devastating.

    and devastating.

    I’d like to think so Zumbudddi,

    I bristle at pompous, preening poseurs. Smug liars and snarky cheats.

    Dishonest panderers to the lowest common filth- our elites and their mendacious matrix of lies and deceits.

    good for a working class man to wipe his boots on, perhaps, but not much good beyond that

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  139. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @EliteCommInc.
    You might want to read Col Bacivic's book,

    Washington Rules

    I am going to skip the discussion on Dr. Bacivic's private life. I have no clue nor is it relevant to this discussion.


    I have listened to the debate over 9/11 conspiracies with a fairly open mind (in my view) and while there are plenty of answered questions and even suspicious coincidences, there are no hard links that make the conspiracy work. Suspicion does not a conspiracy make --- lots of unconnected dots don't make a circle even if they are in a circular pattern. You might want to take a look at the hijackings that occurred in the 1970's or late 1960's. Once on an aircraft, if your intent is to hijack the plane -- all you have to do is convince the passengers and flight crew not to resist -- one doesn't need more a credible or even unknown but believable threat --

    "I have a bomb in baggage compartment"

    There are some 200 countries on the planet recognized by the UN. Zimbabwe is but one. And no one recognized as expert in international relations has to know anything about all of them or any them as per themselves. The expertise in such the field could be on any number of parameters about relations between states. Said expert may be knowledgeable about any variation from one state, to many, and in a general sense all of them. But not knowing or writing about any one state of locus to me does not deny expertise as is the case with Zimbabwe. It's like taking a vast body of knowledge selecting single sectors or bis of data and claiming that if a person can't answer these questions in this manner they must deficient, that is not how expertise is tested.

    In the case of Sec Clinton it was not that she was not experienced as one notes experience and credential - she was by the standards of holding office and those that supported her used that. The failure was not posts she held, but her performance that where she failed. And that is where candidate Trump pressed the debate. He rightly said, results matter. Frankly, I was disappointed when Pres Trump dropped out of the race four years earlier.

    I certainly think Israel has a right to exist. I certainly think she should be called out on her policies in Palestine. But if anyone thinks that Israel's tactics are not working, then they don't understand the realities on ground or Israel's goals. And that is what makes our duplicity all the more egregious. When one uses bewilderment, one may very well be using Irony and sarcasm to make the point of contention experienced.

    I.E. Beyond me why the US keeps undermining its own citizens in favor of Mexicans coming across our borders illegally or jump tracking the VISA programs or harbored in DACA -- let's face it. It doesn't matter what the democrats do -- this President has betrayed his supporters on that point -- Having to constantly iron the suits of a man of his wealth and education is tiresome. Stop pretending building the wall is such a hurdle.

    I just reread the article about the USS Liberty. Recently Mr Giraldi discussed Pollard's release. I can don't care who you are. If you are a US citizen, regardless of how much you know and understand it -- why we are so cozy with Israel given the damage they have done to the US causes one wonder. I get the end times prophecy advance, but even I remain bewildered why so many policymakers are just numb to what the carte blanche' consequences of being so wedded to Israel - you want to make laws against your own citizens - it's just off the wall.

    I have listened to the debate over 9/11 conspiracies with a fairly open mind (in my view) and while there are plenty of answered questions and even suspicious coincidences, there are no hard links that make the conspiracy work.

    That’s no doubt the way the entire US military establishment thinks.

    It’s the way the US military establishment has to think.

    Having expended several trillion dollars and killed, maimed or displaced tens of millions of people in the name of 9/11, the credibility of the US military as anything but a terrorist organization of unexcelled brutality would be entirely destroyed by acceptance of a true account of 9/11.

    That means that to consider Professor Bacevich’s political views to be of the slightest validity, one must accept the official 9/11 story.

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    No. it means that despite his opposition to the election of Pres trump, he holds some advances with which one who supports Pres trump might agree with.


    There's no love loss between Dr. Bacivic and myself -- despite his knowledge, expertise, we are several light years apart on who the Vietnam conflict, and why it was fought. That he misapplies data sets does mean his views everywhere else are wrong.

    Dr. Bacivic is not afraid to take on his military colleagues. I am going to be careful here, because Dr. Bacivic is more than capable of defending himself and i want to be careful not exceed what is appropriate. Not because I fear response, but because my position is sufficient for its import.

    Dissenting views among military ranks is difficult to discern, so I will only respond with --- a single example of a ranking officer who dissented regarding Iraq General Chenseki. There are men willing to risk it. I am unclear how many service members think that 9/11 was an inside job, that involved the Israelis and or Saudi Arabian US cooperation. At the moment, the links despite the coincidences and questions, simply don't make the grade (in my view).

    I don't think the reactions by the CIA, FBI, DIA, FAA and DOD as well others could keep it a secret. And I am not dismissing that one could be part of a conspiracy without their knowledge.
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  140. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The Republican Party sold out to the cheap labor lobby = Trump.

    Saves a whole lot of blah, blah, blah.

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  141. @Alden
    Doesn’t matter if we have a constitution or not. Judges make our laws.

    Correct. Any literate person can read the constitution and know what it says. But only nine people on earth know what it means. It’s surprising how few people see the problem here. The Supreme Court should be replaced with a jury.

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    The Supreme Court should be replaced with a jury.
     
    Maybe the Congress should be replaced by a random selection of citizens also. Then it would be possible to dispense with the tiresome, ridiculously expensive and corrupt business of Congressional elections.

    Indeed, if Congress were then to elect a President from among its own ranks, it would be possible to dispense also with the Presidential election, surely the most preposterous manifestation of the so-called democratic process anywhere in the world.

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  142. @CanSpeccy

    I have listened to the debate over 9/11 conspiracies with a fairly open mind (in my view) and while there are plenty of answered questions and even suspicious coincidences, there are no hard links that make the conspiracy work.
     
    That's no doubt the way the entire US military establishment thinks.

    It's the way the US military establishment has to think.

    Having expended several trillion dollars and killed, maimed or displaced tens of millions of people in the name of 9/11, the credibility of the US military as anything but a terrorist organization of unexcelled brutality would be entirely destroyed by acceptance of a true account of 9/11.

    That means that to consider Professor Bacevich's political views to be of the slightest validity, one must accept the official 9/11 story.

    No. it means that despite his opposition to the election of Pres trump, he holds some advances with which one who supports Pres trump might agree with.

    There’s no love loss between Dr. Bacivic and myself — despite his knowledge, expertise, we are several light years apart on who the Vietnam conflict, and why it was fought. That he misapplies data sets does mean his views everywhere else are wrong.

    Dr. Bacivic is not afraid to take on his military colleagues. I am going to be careful here, because Dr. Bacivic is more than capable of defending himself and i want to be careful not exceed what is appropriate. Not because I fear response, but because my position is sufficient for its import.

    Dissenting views among military ranks is difficult to discern, so I will only respond with — a single example of a ranking officer who dissented regarding Iraq General Chenseki. There are men willing to risk it. I am unclear how many service members think that 9/11 was an inside job, that involved the Israelis and or Saudi Arabian US cooperation. At the moment, the links despite the coincidences and questions, simply don’t make the grade (in my view).

    I don’t think the reactions by the CIA, FBI, DIA, FAA and DOD as well others could keep it a secret. And I am not dismissing that one could be part of a conspiracy without their knowledge.

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    I am unclear how many service members think that 9/11 was an inside job, that involved the Israelis and or Saudi Arabian US cooperation. At the moment, the links despite the coincidences and questions, simply don’t make the grade (in my view).
     
    You miss my point to which your view as to whether 9/11 was an "inside job" is irrelevant.

    My point was that no past or present member of the US military can openly question the official account of 9/11 because the US military have killed, maimed or displaced tens of millions of people (and continue the chaos and carnage) in the name of 9/11.

    Thus, for a member of the US military to say 9/11 was in some way organized, sponsored, or merely allowed by the US Government is to declare America's military leadership, including the Commanders in Chief, guilty of war crimes in which all members of the military, are knowingly or otherwise complicit.

    The corollary to that is that military discipline cannot allow members of the military to publicly question the official 9/11 account.

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  143. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @ElitecommInc.
    No. it means that despite his opposition to the election of Pres trump, he holds some advances with which one who supports Pres trump might agree with.


    There's no love loss between Dr. Bacivic and myself -- despite his knowledge, expertise, we are several light years apart on who the Vietnam conflict, and why it was fought. That he misapplies data sets does mean his views everywhere else are wrong.

    Dr. Bacivic is not afraid to take on his military colleagues. I am going to be careful here, because Dr. Bacivic is more than capable of defending himself and i want to be careful not exceed what is appropriate. Not because I fear response, but because my position is sufficient for its import.

    Dissenting views among military ranks is difficult to discern, so I will only respond with --- a single example of a ranking officer who dissented regarding Iraq General Chenseki. There are men willing to risk it. I am unclear how many service members think that 9/11 was an inside job, that involved the Israelis and or Saudi Arabian US cooperation. At the moment, the links despite the coincidences and questions, simply don't make the grade (in my view).

    I don't think the reactions by the CIA, FBI, DIA, FAA and DOD as well others could keep it a secret. And I am not dismissing that one could be part of a conspiracy without their knowledge.

    I am unclear how many service members think that 9/11 was an inside job, that involved the Israelis and or Saudi Arabian US cooperation. At the moment, the links despite the coincidences and questions, simply don’t make the grade (in my view).

    You miss my point to which your view as to whether 9/11 was an “inside job” is irrelevant.

    My point was that no past or present member of the US military can openly question the official account of 9/11 because the US military have killed, maimed or displaced tens of millions of people (and continue the chaos and carnage) in the name of 9/11.

    Thus, for a member of the US military to say 9/11 was in some way organized, sponsored, or merely allowed by the US Government is to declare America’s military leadership, including the Commanders in Chief, guilty of war crimes in which all members of the military, are knowingly or otherwise complicit.

    The corollary to that is that military discipline cannot allow members of the military to publicly question the official 9/11 account.

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    I am unconvinced that i missed your point. I appreciate you taking the time to elaborate.

    No my point is before one gets to whether or not their should be ddissent, there should be some clear evidence that make a case to dissent about.

    And that means you have to overcome the sizeable counter intuitive, that US leadership would not engage in self sabotage for cause.


    Your contention is similar to that concerning WWII. That conspiratorial contention was that Pres. Roosevelt, new there was going to be an attack, but saw it as an opportunity to get the US into the war -- so he and upper echelon staff allowed it to occur. The notion of self sabotage requires a case that is more than circumstantial.

    The media blitz to indict Pres Trump for collusion is an attempt to overcome the counter-intuitive that a Pres Candidate would sabotage that which he running to represent.

    In any of these cases, I think the US military would have a very tough time remaining silent. In fat they would have a duty to respond. But that response had better be founded on a very credible case. And it would have exceed, probable or likely.

    So in either case, they orchestrated it or they allowed for causes known or unknown -- the contention has to be strong enough to overcome the counter-intuitive mindset.

    Note: when Pres Clinton attempted to intro open same sex relational - plenty of dissent.

    And no I doubt it has much to do with killing, you'll have to explicate that further. It rests on how the military works. Buy design its structured to discourage dissent accept very specific forms. So even if there was dissent, you and i would probably never know about it. But while tricky to assess, dissent is actually an important part of the problem solving process. I think we saw dissent more than I was comfortable with during the Iraq and Afghanistan ca,campaigns. The DIA and the CIA were near open warfare, I think. I think that eventually Vietnam experienced push-back by the military. But an active dissent concerning 9/11 -- we wouldn't see it unless there were grounds to make charges that would stick. A counter-intuitive i did not mention -- it would create a national cris, like nothing before I suspect.

    protocols for dissent.
    https://www.army.mil/article/47175/breaking_ranks_dissent_and_the_military_professional

    Now Col Bacivic could better comment in this than I.

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  144. Mulegino1 says:
    @anonymous
    That the Soviets did illegal things once they intervened in Spain doesn't mean that Spain had no right to request their assistance in resisting the coup.

    The Nationalists had the moral high ground and were simply better human beings. Besides, they had the best music:

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  145. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @WorkingClass
    Correct. Any literate person can read the constitution and know what it says. But only nine people on earth know what it means. It's surprising how few people see the problem here. The Supreme Court should be replaced with a jury.

    The Supreme Court should be replaced with a jury.

    Maybe the Congress should be replaced by a random selection of citizens also. Then it would be possible to dispense with the tiresome, ridiculously expensive and corrupt business of Congressional elections.

    Indeed, if Congress were then to elect a President from among its own ranks, it would be possible to dispense also with the Presidential election, surely the most preposterous manifestation of the so-called democratic process anywhere in the world.

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  146. Jake says:
    @Jeff77450
    Mr. Bacevich, good article. You make a number of valid points, several of which hadn't occurred to me. You're probably smarter than I am. My answer to the question of how we got DJT would've been something like: For ~fifty years Mainstream America--the descendants of those pioneers who created America and who did the overwhelming majority of the fighting-and-dying in our many wars--watched as others, i.e. blacks & Latinos, but also other new arrivals, were moved to the head of the line for college admissions and certain jobs. They watched as major immigration policies were forced on them from the top down with effectively no national debate. They watched as they saw themselves become an ever-smaller percentage of the nation. They watched as many of their American Graffiti/Norman Rockwell-esque communities got transformed into something less desirable. They watched as their jobs were sent overseas. They watched as their values & traditions were trashed. Finally, in 2016 they collectively said to themselves, "This is like the time when the skunk and the porcupine were having sex and one said to another, 'Enough of this is enough'" and they voted for Donald J. Trump.

    Blacks and others ‘were moved.’ By whom or what?

    The WASP Elite was shitting on the vast majority of white Americans while determined to uplift the poor angelic Negro before Jews ever made any impact on media, politics, or jurisprudence.

    We are in the shape we are in because the descendants (religious, cultural, and moral as well as genetic) of Anglo-Saxon Puritans have set national standards since at least 1865. From the beginning of the Judaizing heresy that was Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, it produced a political culture naturally allying with Jews against the vast majority of whites it ruled.

    Blacks proved perfect tools and weapons for WASP Elites, in league with their Jewish allies (WASPs and Jews allied under Oliver Cromwell), to use to batter the white masses.

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  147. Toaster says:

    and if my aunt had a dick, should be my uncle…. You lost me at global warming.

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  148. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    The Roman Empire, like every propositional empire before or since, no longer exists. Without exception, they eventually devolve into their constituent nations. The American fault lines are patent, just a matter of when and how.

    “The Roman Empire, like every propositional empire before or since, no longer exists.”

    While ’tis true there are several shared traits, the moving parts for the Roman Empire and the United States are unique for their time period. America had interest overseas, the Romans had overseas interests. Big difference there.

    Moreover, with today’s reliance on technology, the influence of the global economy, and America’s own mutt identity, the odds that the United States will break up Yugoslavia-style are virtually impossible. Free free to dream! But I would be worried if such an event took place–lawyers such as yourself would be strung up on poles and be beaten like pinatas. Hope you have Cadillac health insurance.

    “Without exception, they eventually devolve into their constituent nations.”

    Had that been the case, the English would have ensured that the Germans and Irish–groups deemed to be alien societies by nativists–been removed by force. But because of intermarriage between ethnic groups and between races, along with Generation Z’s penchant for inclusion, the mortar has filled in those fault lines. Cracks will remain, and they may even get bigger, but the cement is both strong and flexible.

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    That's not how it works. Intermarriage is tiny. You're a murderous parasite. Move to Israel already.
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  149. LeSeuer says:

    The admirable Mr. Bacevich has left out the last link in the chain.

    The corruption at high levels of the Democratic Party. To put it simply, the Democratic Party is not democratic. And this is a trend that dates back to the Clinton Presidency.

    First we’ve seen it in primary elections for the Democratic nod to run for House or Senate. When I was young, the rule was that the national party stayed neutral in such elections, leaving the choice of nominee to the party members in the district or state. This changed with Bill Clinton. Then we started to see any progressive challengers to the Clintonite pro-corporate, pro-banker candidates facing not only a well financed campaign but celebrity drop-in visits from the President and first Family. An early sign that the Democratic Party no longer cared what its members thought, but that it only wanted votes in Congress to serve its banker and corporate donor friends.

    We also saw the fight against any primary challenges at all. It was deemed helpful to Republicans to have even a semblance of democracy within the party, so primary challenges against the pro-banker Clintonite Democrats became less and less frequent.

    We saw it in the Clintons willingly destroying the post-Watergate campaign finance reforms. The Clintons wanted to rake in as much money as possible (including from China if the allegations were correct), so they combined with the Republicans who always opposed those reforms in the 96 elections to kill them off for good.

    All of which led to the Democratic nomination process where the Democrat voters and caucus attendees clearly preferred Bernie Sanders as the nominee. It led to a Democratic party leadership that rigged the process such that Hillary was guaranteed to win. Even though polls were clearly showing before Hillary went over-the-top in delegate totals that she was trailing Trump in head-to-head matchups, while Bernie’s brand of more traditional Democrat populism was precisely the answer needed to counter the Donald’s brand of fake-populism.

    If there had been an honest democracy within the Democrat party in 2016, we would not have Donald Trump as President today. That’s the funny bit about all of the Democrat whining and blaming of Russia for losing the election. The Democrats did it too themselves, led by the Clintons for 20 years. Their collusion and rigging of the process made sure that a loser candidate who wasn’t strongly supported by the rank-n-file of her party was the hopeless nominee facing Donald.

    Mr. Bacevich has written an excellent column, and its full of accurate places along the footpath that led to Donald Trump being Twit-in-chief. But the corruption of the high levels of the Democratic party brought on by decades of Clintonism was the final stepping stone in the path.

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  150. tjm says:
    @mb
    Well, we are getting closer, but Mr. B still has got a ways to go.
    IOW we repeats ourself, since the last time he discussed Ronald Grump’s presidency over at the AmConservative, TPTB didn't deign to prints our comments (sic).

    The Monster Drumpftruck crushed the opposition because people are tired of one, political correctness – ie. lying – along with the economy, the MidEast wars and immigration.
    Of course whether any thing will come of those campaign positions is a very different question.

    But to return to the post, there is no mention that basically the Dims and the Repugs are socialists or one stripe or another who respectively advocate more big govt. warfare or welfare, if not both, the constitution not withstanding.

    IOW the Council for Foreign Relations is running the clown show and it’s all ice cream, though of different flavors. Which is again, why “conservatives” don’t get it, never mind the “Nevertrumpers”.

    Yeah, they’re getting better, but the brass ring still eludes their grasp in that for one, the deep sixing of Ron “The Real Reagan” Paul’s two presidential campaigns didn’t make the short list above.

    So let’s say a C+. The post starts off well with a glimmer of understanding that the Repugs are part of the problem, but the radical and full extent of the problem still leaves much to be desired in exposition and analysis. Hopefully the next will help rectify matters and bring the gentleman’s grade up a bit.

    cheers

    Great comment, DC is a dog and pony show put on by those who own us.

    Hollywood is a took being used to destroy America, it is not liberal, it IS zionist, marxist

    Wall Street is where much of the money that funds the anti American cabal is funded.

    9/11 was the culmination of the Zionist coup, started with Hollywood Reagan, and Bill Clinton, and Trump is it’s completion.

    Higher education is a slave to endowments, again Zionists, who push divisive fascist marxism…

    Trump is 100% owned by those same zionist rulers, like the rest of the actors in washington.

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    Damn, every statement of yours in the ensuing posts is like an expert sniper's round hitting its mark squarely, with a headshot.

    Quite, impressive.
    , @Truth

    Trump is 100% owned by those same zionist rulers, like the rest of the actors in washington.
     
    I wonder how many professional trolls are actually paid by the Kikemasons, to sound stupid on this site. It just astonishes me that someone who claims to be smart would not get what you have written.
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  151. tjm says:
    @wayfarer

    Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.
    – Martin Luther King, Jr.
     
    Rothschild Zionists & Trust Fund Children, LLC.
    http://www.sott.net/image/s4/80476/full/9_11_Statue_of_Liberty_and_WTC.jpg
    Born with a Silver Spoon in Our Mouth.

    There is no greater misfortune than greed. – Tao Te Ching
     
    9/11 the Truth.
    source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl294zrYLzk
    source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d47oH8PS_QY

    ...

    Great post, right on the “money”.

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  152. tjm says:
    @Beckow
    Those who hate Trump, will hate Trump. And very little of what they write will not be coloured by the hatred.

    The analysis - although based on a sound historical premise - is off by miles. It focuses on personalities and avoids mentioning the systemic failures by Western institutions, from media to academia, from Hollywood to UN. Trump is not a revolutionary, and he is not the devil. He simply represents an attempt late in a systemic downward cycle to correct few excesses and buy some time. The beneficiaries of the excess policies - cheap labor businesses, ethnic castes, trans-gender professionals, open border fanatics, military extremists - are fighting tooth and nail to keep any change from happening. They are at this point beyond hysteria, they sense the goodies might be slipping from their hands (it is mostly about their jobs and careers).

    Two fundamental omissions from the analysis are: in domestic policies the devastating impact of affirmative action on the next generation of young, white males. And in foreign policy the equally devastating impact of Bill Clinton's attack on Serbia (to create a 'Muslim' Kosovo statelet in Europe) had on the international law and norms. Iraq inevitably followed Serbia.

    Why are these points left out? Because they would make the neo-liberal Democrats look bad? Right, Gore as president, that would had fixed it all...

    Trump is owned by the zionists bankers, you know the ones who funded his campaign and bailed out his business…

    I don’t hate any politicians, but I know they are ALL actors, and can be replaced in a second if they step out of line, because TOO many idiots can’t see the truth right in front of their face, instead they fall for partisan distractions by our zionist masters.

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  153. tjm says:
    @Alden
    It would take a Henry 8 and Thomas Cromwell to undo the damage the liberals have done to White Americans since 1956.

    I’m just enjoying the angst and fury of the Trump haters. Don’t forget White commenters on Unz; the same people who hate Trump hate us.

    I smell a zionist shill

    I am just amazed you did not call those who question Chump, a Hiltary supporter.

    Chump is a Zionist paid whore, obviously.

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  154. tjm says:
    @Anonymous
    Shut the fuck up Bacevich. American voters chose Trump. And he’s a great President. Maybe the best ever.

    Chump was handed the Presidency by our zionist masters.

    The zionists own the media, wall street, advertising, banking, and Washington, yet you want us to think Trump got by all those gate keepers, even though his biggest supporter was Sheldon freaking Adleson, arch zionist.

    Nonsense, this is all just more Zionist jew manipulation.

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  155. tjm says:
    @David In TN
    Bacevich didn't write a word about the Open Borders fetish of both parties from which Trump dissented, or seemed to. Not a word. And this played no small part in Trump winning the GOP nomination and the election.

    All true, but it was a total fake.

    American’s greatest sin, is their inability to see how controlled we truly are.

    Obama was painted as a “peace President/Constitutional scholar”, and he was neither.

    They painted Trump as a “America firster/anti immigrant, anti war”, again a total head fake:

    Trump will grant amnesty, build no wall, and has already INCREASED our presence in the MI, and support for Saudi Arabia and Israel, America’s true enemies.

    Trump is a product of Jew York City, the parasite of America.

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  156. tjm says:
    @jimbojones
    How about Trump just ran a strong campaign with a strong platform against a weak candidate with a weak platform? And the only reason Trump didn't win biglier was the unprecedented concentration and breadth of forces arrayed against him - almost the entire media, significant proportions of the Republican party, the entire Democratic party, significant elements of the intelligence agencies, etc.

    One can divide presidential policy into economic policy, foreign policy, and cultural policy.
    - Trump's economic policy is a great success. Obama did not make this economy - Trump did. I can tell you why - because as a real builder of real things, Trump realizes that the economy is about making stuff. (For a true "service economy" look no further than Zimbabwe or Bangladesh.) And he has been promoting production from the get-go.
    - Trump's foreign policy is tolerable. The destruction of ISIS and salvation of Syria are great achievements. Beyond that, Trump hasn't started new wars, which is good.
    - On the cultural front, Trump is providing welcome respite from, and a correction to, the topsy-turby world of murderous thuggish gentle giants, failed green utopianism exemplified by Solyndra, global warming alarmism, transgederism mania, and so on.

    So yeah - Trump won because he was a good candidate with a good platform. And he is doing great.

    What a load of crap:

    So, Trump can take credit, why, because of a tax system that just started.

    AND WHAT ECONOMY?! Wall Street, service jobs mean NOTHING!

    Foreign policy, increasing military in Afghanistan, MAKING JERUSALEM THE CAPITAL OF ISRAEL, WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And a tweeting idiot, with friends like Trump white Americans don’t need enemies.

    Furthermore, TRUMP CONTINUES Obama’s catch and release, of illegals, CHUMP did not KILL DACA like he promised, and will likely grant amnesty

    And Chump appointed Nikki Haley to the UN, a zionist traitor, and a Cabinet filled with Zionists…

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  157. tjm says:
    @WorkingClass
    It was us, Sixty million deplorables gave you Trump. Trump knows we exist and he does not hate us. Best of all he is not a smug liberal who has been lobotomized by academia. Neither is he a Cuck like the gang of losers who opposed him in the primary. The most satisfying aspect of his victory is that both Democrats and Republicans lost.

    Trump ain't much but he's all we've got. His enemies are my enemies. You might bring Trump down. But sixty million deplorables will remain. Thanks to Trump we know who we are. Thanks to rhetoric from the left we know we are hated and are being systematically "replaced". We have every reason to hang together. When/if we find leadership (Trump is not a leader) you will find it is us and not Trump who are your problem.

    Trump is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, he is owned by the zionist bankers, obviously

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  158. tjm says:
    @Rafael Martorell
    Nobody here vote for what this previous presidents and politicians did but for what the promese will do every time.
    You must add that when we the american people get to know this corrupts and demagogues individuals they where already chosen in a rigged process.
    What is lacking here from the people is an stronger fisical reaction against the elite that deliver us to be pillage by everybody from the insurance companies to the "kings"of the midle east to the trial lawywers,etc etc etc.
    It will take a Mao to clean this elite.

    Exactly,

    Too many buy into the right vs left narrative, which should be an obvious lie.

    Trump came from JEW YORK CITY, he backed by the biggest Zionists and has surrounded himself with Zionists!

    Zionists HATE AMERICA!!!!!!

    Trump will grant AMNESTY

    Trump wants to give the military control of the PENTAGON?!

    Trump, like Obama, Clinton, Bush and Reagan are all puppets, each traitors in their own right, but Trump may surpass them all, we will see.

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  159. tjm says:
    @Jeff77450
    Mr. Bacevich, good article. You make a number of valid points, several of which hadn't occurred to me. You're probably smarter than I am. My answer to the question of how we got DJT would've been something like: For ~fifty years Mainstream America--the descendants of those pioneers who created America and who did the overwhelming majority of the fighting-and-dying in our many wars--watched as others, i.e. blacks & Latinos, but also other new arrivals, were moved to the head of the line for college admissions and certain jobs. They watched as major immigration policies were forced on them from the top down with effectively no national debate. They watched as they saw themselves become an ever-smaller percentage of the nation. They watched as many of their American Graffiti/Norman Rockwell-esque communities got transformed into something less desirable. They watched as their jobs were sent overseas. They watched as their values & traditions were trashed. Finally, in 2016 they collectively said to themselves, "This is like the time when the skunk and the porcupine were having sex and one said to another, 'Enough of this is enough'" and they voted for Donald J. Trump.

    Zionists own America, and the whole world knows it.

    They own media, Hollywood, entertainment, Wall Street, The Fed, advertising, higher education, and Washington.

    The zionists use the carrot and the stick, black mail, bribes to ensure everyone stays on message:

    Anti white male, feminist, OPEN BORDERS, anti Russian, anti Christian and on and on…

    9/11 I believe was final move to totally take over the US government by the Zionist money machine.

    Trump will likely grant amnesty for illegals, very very likely

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  160. tjm says:
    @Wally
    "A tax policy virtually no one fully understands…"

    Speak for yourself.

    Trump tax cuts: 90% Of Workers Likely To See More Money In Paycheck Next Month http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/01/12/paycheck-changes-new-tax-law-more-money/

    Public Radio Admits: Trump Tax Cut Good for Middle & Low Income in California
    http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/01/28/public-radio-admits-trump-tax-cut-best-for-middle-low-income/

    Assoc. Press Admits: Trump Has Kept Most of His Promises
    https://www.prisonplanet.com/ap-admits-trump-has-kept-most-of-his-promises.html

    BULL SHIT

    Associated Press lies, and does NPR, all lies, yet you quote them?!

    Oh yes, NPR who says we have NO inflation!

    Trump was elected to deal with immigration and make peace with Russia, and get us out of wars.

    Trump deports LESS THAN OBAMA! Trump does not kill DACA, but kicks it to Congress, so congress will give him a bill to grant amnesty.

    Trump deepens the swamp, he puts Zionist traitor Nikki Haley into the UN?!

    Trump tweets like a 15 year old girl, embarrassing the right who supports him.

    TRUMP IS A ZIONIST HACK< HE IS A PUPPET, PERIOD!

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  161. tjm says:
    @Greg Bacon
    Slick Willy's 1998 Lewinsky Scandal was mostly due to our good friend and 'ally', Israel. Clinton thought he could help the Palestinians get some kind of relief and waded into that morass, only to get sidetracked by a Mossad Jewess 'honeypot.'

    Another major part played by our rascally friends was the election of Bush the Younger, made possible by the 2000 October surprise of the Israeli attack on the USS Cole. It was a sub-launched cruise missile that did in the Cole, not some boating goat herders bumping into that ship with explosives. Israel's 9/11 False Flag plans were well underway, which called for a psycho like Cheney to be in the WH along with his pet chimp.
    As for Gore, if he had managed somehow to overcome the False Flag hubris and the vote-rigging and won, I have no doubt that he would of shortly after been dispatched, allowing the Israeli-Firster--to hell with America--raving loonie Zionist Jew Joe Lieberman to be president, also in time for 9/11.

    As for Trump in the WH, thank Hillary, Obama and the DNC, which rigged the primaries to steal the candidacy from Sanders. This is not hype or speculation, its been proven.
    All so that the Clinton-Obama mob could keep on with their lies, thievery, assassinations of political enemies, subversion and general mayhem that the loony Hillary so loves.
    Hillary would've started WW III with Russia over Syria, to show the world she has as big a pair of the Big Boys.


    As for Trump, he--like nearly ever other US president since 1913--has been nothing more than a figurehead, giving the rubes in the crowd something to jeer or cheer about, while the real Masters of the World--the Rothschild central banks--go about their sordid business.

    very well said

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  162. wayfarer says:
    @tjm
    Great comment, DC is a dog and pony show put on by those who own us.

    Hollywood is a took being used to destroy America, it is not liberal, it IS zionist, marxist

    Wall Street is where much of the money that funds the anti American cabal is funded.

    9/11 was the culmination of the Zionist coup, started with Hollywood Reagan, and Bill Clinton, and Trump is it's completion.

    Higher education is a slave to endowments, again Zionists, who push divisive fascist marxism...

    Trump is 100% owned by those same zionist rulers, like the rest of the actors in washington.

    Damn, every statement of yours in the ensuing posts is like an expert sniper’s round hitting its mark squarely, with a headshot.

    Quite, impressive.

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  163. How we got Trump:
    President after president after president who refused to enforce immigration law, and who decided that the only solution to the millions of people who came in illegally due to their refusal to enforce immigration law was to legalize them.

    President after president after president who were happy to let businesses export their factories and import their labor.

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  164. @CanSpeccy

    I am unclear how many service members think that 9/11 was an inside job, that involved the Israelis and or Saudi Arabian US cooperation. At the moment, the links despite the coincidences and questions, simply don’t make the grade (in my view).
     
    You miss my point to which your view as to whether 9/11 was an "inside job" is irrelevant.

    My point was that no past or present member of the US military can openly question the official account of 9/11 because the US military have killed, maimed or displaced tens of millions of people (and continue the chaos and carnage) in the name of 9/11.

    Thus, for a member of the US military to say 9/11 was in some way organized, sponsored, or merely allowed by the US Government is to declare America's military leadership, including the Commanders in Chief, guilty of war crimes in which all members of the military, are knowingly or otherwise complicit.

    The corollary to that is that military discipline cannot allow members of the military to publicly question the official 9/11 account.

    I am unconvinced that i missed your point. I appreciate you taking the time to elaborate.

    No my point is before one gets to whether or not their should be ddissent, there should be some clear evidence that make a case to dissent about.

    And that means you have to overcome the sizeable counter intuitive, that US leadership would not engage in self sabotage for cause.

    Your contention is similar to that concerning WWII. That conspiratorial contention was that Pres. Roosevelt, new there was going to be an attack, but saw it as an opportunity to get the US into the war — so he and upper echelon staff allowed it to occur. The notion of self sabotage requires a case that is more than circumstantial.

    The media blitz to indict Pres Trump for collusion is an attempt to overcome the counter-intuitive that a Pres Candidate would sabotage that which he running to represent.

    In any of these cases, I think the US military would have a very tough time remaining silent. In fat they would have a duty to respond. But that response had better be founded on a very credible case. And it would have exceed, probable or likely.

    So in either case, they orchestrated it or they allowed for causes known or unknown — the contention has to be strong enough to overcome the counter-intuitive mindset.

    Note: when Pres Clinton attempted to intro open same sex relational – plenty of dissent.

    And no I doubt it has much to do with killing, you’ll have to explicate that further. It rests on how the military works. Buy design its structured to discourage dissent accept very specific forms. So even if there was dissent, you and i would probably never know about it. But while tricky to assess, dissent is actually an important part of the problem solving process. I think we saw dissent more than I was comfortable with during the Iraq and Afghanistan ca,campaigns. The DIA and the CIA were near open warfare, I think. I think that eventually Vietnam experienced push-back by the military. But an active dissent concerning 9/11 — we wouldn’t see it unless there were grounds to make charges that would stick. A counter-intuitive i did not mention — it would create a national cris, like nothing before I suspect.

    protocols for dissent.

    https://www.army.mil/article/47175/breaking_ranks_dissent_and_the_military_professional

    Now Col Bacivic could better comment in this than I.

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  165. Truth says:
    @deej
    Mr B. has missed the entire point of Trump. It's the economy stupid. Trump has correctly identified the structural dismantling of the US economy in the interest of an oligarchy as our main problem. Everything else is a footnote to this fact including war policy. The US has given away more wealth in a shorter period of time than any other nation in history. The fact that we gave it away (to make rich people richer) to a communist slave state (still is politically) across the globe is the tragic joke. As such Trump has shown himself more strategically intelligent than Mr. B. The fact that Trump is a vulgarian is a small price to pay.

    Trump has correctly identified the structural dismantling of the US economy in the interest of an oligarchy as our main problem.

    LOL, yes I was watching ESPN yesterday, and somehow Michael Jordan correctly identified that “basketball” involved putting an inflated leather sphere through a metal ring.

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  166. Truth says:
    @Mark Green
    Bacevich occasionally writes decent articles. This is not one of them.

    Trump got elected because he, alone, dared to seriously address the ongoing and unsought racial/ethnic transformation of the US that takes into consideration the interests of America's founding, European-derived, English-speaking majority.

    Trump (the candidate) also stated that he wanted to normalize relations with Russia. This is an infinitely sensible goal. (Trump's welcome peace overtures to Putin is why 'Russiagate' was invented).

    Candidate Trump also said: "I don't want your [Jewish] money" to an auditorium of rich and powerful Israeli-Americans. This statement was also inspiring, long overdue and sorely needed.

    Would a President Trump actually resist the toxic pressures of America's Jewish lobby? It looked that way.

    Sadly, Trump finally took their money and the US wars/pressures against world Jewry's foes are again on the rise. Victims include millions who live in Syria, Iran, Afghanistan, Palestine, Russia, Lebanon, Libya as well as the pathetic inmates at Guantanamo Bay.

    President Trump's flip-flops and compromises have been a huge disappointment to this Trump supporter. But I have not abandoned him. Not yet.

    Sadly, The Donald (like most of the modern Presidents before him) has yielded to the omnipresent Jewish lobby and other entrenched powers within the Deep State. Bacevich ignores this part of the picture. And Candidate Clinton was clearly under their thrall. It's good at least that Hillary is not back in the White House.

    Candidate Trump appeared to be independent, pro-American and different than most of the ambitious political operatives that one finds in Washington. This inspired his base: the possibility of real change.

    Bacevich's disdainful, left wing analysis of Trump is typical of what one generally finds on TomDispatch. What are he and his ilk doing on UNZ?

    Candidate Trump also said: “I don’t want your [Jewish] money” to an auditorium of rich and powerful Israeli-Americans.

    You forgot the part where he said; “I get all I need from the families of my children’s parents.”

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  167. Truth says:
    @WorkingClass

    Instead he’s a smug Izzy-firster, lobotomized by the likes of Adelson and Netanyahoo. No better than any other smug doofus.
     
    You left out Jared.

    Yes Trump is a Zionist. But the criminal McCabe is gone from the FBI and I am confident others will follow. The truth is coming out about Trump's enemies whom you seem eager to aid and comfort.

    You left out Jared.

    Yeah, he is a weak, simple-minded, limp-wristed Zionist ass-kisser too.

    Have you read amren.com lately?

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  168. Truth says:
    @Sam J.
    "...99% of American voter never knew that Perot existed..."

    Your numbers are wrong as he got more than 1% of the vote. If he got more than 1% of the vote then it's obvious that more than 1% knew who he was.

    “…do not argue wish me, you are schtupid. I will win!”

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  169. Truth says:
    @Anonymous
    Only racist slaves see blacks in ghettos as their enemies, rather than as their fellow slaves. Only stupid people don't realize we all live as slaves. Obama was appointed so that everyone would talk about race while he made it legal to assassinate anyone anywhere at any time with drones. You got Trump because your masters choose him for you - the same old Empire first, the rich second, and everything else later.

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  170. Truth says:
    @jilles dykstra
    https://www.tgd.de/2018/01/30/deutschland-braucht-ein-klares-bekenntnis-zur-einwanderungsgesellschaft/

    Not many in the USA can read German, I suppose.
    Migrant organisations in Germany, also respresenting those with German nationality, but with migrant background, demand that ethnic Germans adapt to what I had best call 'new Germans', and/or accept a multi cultural society.

    The letter reminds me of how Russian jews resisted assimilation, leading in the end to the bolsjewist coup at the end of 1917, and of how in Germany from 1870 on antisemitism began.

    Already in 2001 or 2002 in Miami I, and my wife, were ignored in certain places when we spoke english.
    My wife speaks spanish, the moment she used that language anything changed.

    Farsighted people in Europe predict civil wars, migrants, and their descendants against those with roots in the European countries going back hundreds of years.
    The USA Civil War hardly was a civil war, I do hope the USA is not heading towards a real civil war.
    So I wonder if (also ?) here Trump is as stupid as many think he is.

    Already in 2001 or 2002 in Miami I, and my wife, were ignored in certain places when we spoke english.

    Why didn’t you teach her Hebrew then?

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  171. Truth says:
    @tjm
    Great comment, DC is a dog and pony show put on by those who own us.

    Hollywood is a took being used to destroy America, it is not liberal, it IS zionist, marxist

    Wall Street is where much of the money that funds the anti American cabal is funded.

    9/11 was the culmination of the Zionist coup, started with Hollywood Reagan, and Bill Clinton, and Trump is it's completion.

    Higher education is a slave to endowments, again Zionists, who push divisive fascist marxism...

    Trump is 100% owned by those same zionist rulers, like the rest of the actors in washington.

    Trump is 100% owned by those same zionist rulers, like the rest of the actors in washington.

    I wonder how many professional trolls are actually paid by the Kikemasons, to sound stupid on this site. It just astonishes me that someone who claims to be smart would not get what you have written.

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  172. Truth says:

    Hey guys; when is that wall going up?

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  173. Saxon says:
    @Corvinus
    "The Roman Empire, like every propositional empire before or since, no longer exists."

    While 'tis true there are several shared traits, the moving parts for the Roman Empire and the United States are unique for their time period. America had interest overseas, the Romans had overseas interests. Big difference there.

    Moreover, with today's reliance on technology, the influence of the global economy, and America's own mutt identity, the odds that the United States will break up Yugoslavia-style are virtually impossible. Free free to dream! But I would be worried if such an event took place--lawyers such as yourself would be strung up on poles and be beaten like pinatas. Hope you have Cadillac health insurance.

    "Without exception, they eventually devolve into their constituent nations."

    Had that been the case, the English would have ensured that the Germans and Irish--groups deemed to be alien societies by nativists--been removed by force. But because of intermarriage between ethnic groups and between races, along with Generation Z's penchant for inclusion, the mortar has filled in those fault lines. Cracks will remain, and they may even get bigger, but the cement is both strong and flexible.

    That’s not how it works. Intermarriage is tiny. You’re a murderous parasite. Move to Israel already.

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    "That’s not how it works. Intermarriage is tiny."

    The majority of Americans are mutts. That is, they have Irish-Jewish-Slavic, or English-French-Kenyan, or Argentine-Chinese bloodlines.

    No one is going back.

    "You’re a murderous parasite. Move to Israel already."

    It never ceases to amaze me how some of the fine posters here double down on Jew Derangement Syndrome.

    The train is fine, Saxon, the train is fine.
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  174. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Saxon
    Imagine being this much of a pea-brained marxist class dialectic hanger-on in the current year. Yeah these hordes of racial strangers are totally my ally even though they've been incited against me and mine, and the establishment is using them in a quite literal policy of ethnic cleansing against my people.
    :^)

    ?
    American blacks aren’t being used any too much for ethnic cleansing. They were, back in the 60s. But now they are an embarrassment to the powers-that-be and are being ethnically cleansed themselves.

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  175. Corvinus says:
    @Saxon
    That's not how it works. Intermarriage is tiny. You're a murderous parasite. Move to Israel already.

    “That’s not how it works. Intermarriage is tiny.”

    The majority of Americans are mutts. That is, they have Irish-Jewish-Slavic, or English-French-Kenyan, or Argentine-Chinese bloodlines.

    No one is going back.

    “You’re a murderous parasite. Move to Israel already.”

    It never ceases to amaze me how some of the fine posters here double down on Jew Derangement Syndrome.

    The train is fine, Saxon, the train is fine.

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  176. other alternatives were available.

    Five-yard penalty for unnecessary redundancy. (Oops… one for me, too.)

    A billionaire complaining about the system being “rigged” might otherwise have tested the outer limits of irony…

    And this is different from the 1930s in that…

    Trump is like that last native New Yorker in the White House, in that he bombed in his own part of the state while carrying the other.

    When President Clinton’s sexual encounters with a young White House intern became known, Hillary Clinton stood by her man.

    In light of her artful use of plausible deniability in dissuading Mrs Harvey from pressing charges without explicitly dissuading her, how is this a surprise?

    Also, Miss Lewinsky was not an intern at the time. She had been given a paid job. However, that alone is suspicious. Where are all the fellow interns who were in competition for that opening? Mary Cunningham Agee caught hell for a similar lucky break.

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  177. Dems are all about, “potential for movement”!

    Jimmy Dore Show

    Bowel movements.

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  178. Alden says:
    @Anon
    He was a pig with no respect for the will of the people.

    Franco wasn’t even in Spain when the people rose against the Russian Jewish communists who murdered the duly elected socialist government and began looting massacring and raping.

    You need to read the real history of that war not the commie garbage you learned in college.

    One good thing the communists did, they recruited a lot of American useful idiot communist for their Abraham Lincoln Brigade fighting against Franconand the people of Spain.

    The communists put the Lincoln Brigade in the from lines to bear the burnt of the fighting and the American useful idiots got slaughtered Wonderful!!!!!

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    On this subject, a good book is "Jumping the Line," by William Herrick. He was a member of The Brigade who turned against Communism. And yes, they got slaughtered.
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  179. Alden says:
    @schrub
    Here are some questions:

    What was the number of times that historians Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer appeared on (gatekeeper) Amy Goodman's TV program Democracy Now in order to discuss the Israel Lobby's push for the war on Iraq: answer O (zero) times

    What are the number of times that Andrew Bacevich appeared on (gatekeeper) Amy Goodman's TV program Democracy Now: 31 (thirty one) times

    This tells you everything about both Bacevich and Goodman.

    Unfortunately, a now apparently contrite and bowed Stephen Walt is attempting to receive absolution from high priestess Amy Gooman (and her sugar daddy George Soros) from the charges of antisemitism that have seriously damaged the professional careers of both him and Mearsheimer that occurred after their publication of their 2006 book on the Israel's Lobby and the wars it pushed in the Mideast. He is doing this by going on her program and bashing Trump.

    Amy Goodamn now benefits from Walt's appearances because she can now claim political balance , something she was never able to do in the past.

    Walt is probably on a fool;s errand however because he is dealing with a people whose principal belief is " never forgive and never forget." Walt is now Goodman's pet Republican, kept on a very short and controllable leash.

    Here is a link to the book that caused to damge to Mearsheimer and Walt's careers. The book atha cause the damage:

    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Foreign_Policy)

    Here are links to Stephen Walt on Trump:

    https://www.democracynow.org/2017/2/7/stephen_walt_from_israel_to_iran

    https://www.democracynow.org/2017/2/7/harvard_professor_to_trump_there_is


    You would think that Bacevich would be a little less accepting of the government's easily debunked 9-11 story considering that Bacevich's own officer son died in combat in Iraq as a result of it.

    But then again, for him to question the 9-11 story would hurt his very lucrative book sales. He knows full well that the invitations to promote his books on center/left media would quickly vanish if he were to "ask questions".

    Apparently, when given the choice , Bacevich chose book sales and public appearances over his son's memory.

    (1) What exactly can the Lobby do to a career. For this we have the example of (ex) Senator Charles Percy of Illinois who took on the Lobby and lost his next election in 1985 despite being a generally popular,but slightly liberal incumbent.

    But his losing was not enough for our friends. Percy had to be made an example of.. He was blacklisted from appearances on the MSM. He received no lucrative invitations to join boards of director of corporations or non profit foundations that were commonplace for prominent ex-politicians. Speaking engagements disappeared. He was no longer invited to Republican evens or conventions. He became a total non-person from the mid 1980s until his death in 2011.

    So thorough was his deliberately engineered disappearance by The Lobby that when he died in 2011 , the most common response from people was "I didn't know he was still alive, I thought he died decades ago, soon after he lost the election".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_H._Percy

    Same thing happened to his fellow Illinois Senator the Democrat Adlai Stevenson 3.

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  180. @Alden
    Franco wasn’t even in Spain when the people rose against the Russian Jewish communists who murdered the duly elected socialist government and began looting massacring and raping.

    You need to read the real history of that war not the commie garbage you learned in college.

    One good thing the communists did, they recruited a lot of American useful idiot communist for their Abraham Lincoln Brigade fighting against Franconand the people of Spain.

    The communists put the Lincoln Brigade in the from lines to bear the burnt of the fighting and the American useful idiots got slaughtered Wonderful!!!!!

    On this subject, a good book is “Jumping the Line,” by William Herrick. He was a member of The Brigade who turned against Communism. And yes, they got slaughtered.

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  181. Excellent summary of how we got here. History never died, except we don’t wish to pay attention. We have now entered a full-blown age of unreality, thanks in large part to our own unwillingness to address the issues we face in the realm of our civic society (or what’s left of it).

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  182. Cassandra says:

    There was a time, years ago, when W. was wielding the sledgehammer against our Nations foundation, that I read everything Bacevich wrote; books, articles, et al. Either he has changed drastically in his thinking, or I have, no matter, the divide is now wide enough, and unnavigable enough, to place him in the camp of my enemies. It shakes a person to the core to discover a Judas among those they once trusted. Bacevich has his thirty pieces of silver; a “Catholic,” “conservative,” who sold his pen, and his soul, to the destroyers of our civilization. My question is why Unz publishes his agitprop. We know why American Conservative – which is no longer American or conservative – does, but why Unz?
    None of this is to say that I entirely disagree with his portrayal of Trump. I consider Trump a symptom of National decline as surely as Hillary is. It is Bacevich’s portrayal of Trump’s desperate supporters that is unforgivable, as is his political support of Hillary Clinton. Bacevich could have ignored the duopoly, the false dichotomy of American politics, and like the Menckens and Twains of the past, sat on the side-lines as an objective critic of the miasma that is Washington. By “joining a side” he has destroyed any credibility he ever had. We have been engaged in a culture war for decades and this military man knows where the battle-lines are drawn. He has chosen to fight alongside those who are transforming our country into a post Christian, post-Western, nightmare. Unz, stop giving this faux conservative a podium.

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    Hello Cassandra,

    While I agree with your sentiments vis-a-vis the singularly execrable Bacevich, I have to disagree with your opinion about Ron Unz publishing his duplicitous tripe.

    Unlike you, I wasn't really aware of Bacevich, and am very pleased to know what a treacherous little rat he is. Were it not for this expose', I wouldn't have known, and I like to know things. That's why I come here, to edify myself to the goings ons, and players, and betrayers, and liars and shills, and those who expose them.

    Ron Unz has effectively exposed the pathetic little rat Bacevich for what he is.

    We're in a battle for the survival of our civilization and our progeny. So that they aren't made into slaves and genocided off the planet. And make no mistake, those are the stakes involved here.

    Judas is singularly reviled specifically because he knew and understood what he was doing and to whom. He knew he was betraying God Himself, but for personal gain, he did it anyways.

    Men like Bacevich understand that they are betraying our very existence to the devil, who wants us all enslaved and eventually blended out of existence.

    It's as existential as a battle gets, because if we lose, we lose everything. Our civilization all the way to our children's future, right off the face of the planet.

    It's right that I mentioned Zimbabwe, because when that nation was having a debate about it's future, and the fate of the Westerners who had built that nation, many people understood exactly what it would mean to hand over rule to others. They knew that it would be existential and that there would be no future for the children of the people who had built and created that nation.

    But they shilled for black rule anyways, because it was deemed personally expedient for them to do so. Like Bacevich, they knew their betrayal would doom the people they were betraying, but like Judas, they considered their personal advancement to be worth it.

    I'm glad to know this about Bacevich, and I'd like to see all the liars and shills have their treachery subjected to the crucible of the Unz Review comments section.

    Cheers

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  183. Rurik says:
    @Cassandra
    There was a time, years ago, when W. was wielding the sledgehammer against our Nations foundation, that I read everything Bacevich wrote; books, articles, et al. Either he has changed drastically in his thinking, or I have, no matter, the divide is now wide enough, and unnavigable enough, to place him in the camp of my enemies. It shakes a person to the core to discover a Judas among those they once trusted. Bacevich has his thirty pieces of silver; a "Catholic," "conservative," who sold his pen, and his soul, to the destroyers of our civilization. My question is why Unz publishes his agitprop. We know why American Conservative - which is no longer American or conservative - does, but why Unz?
    None of this is to say that I entirely disagree with his portrayal of Trump. I consider Trump a symptom of National decline as surely as Hillary is. It is Bacevich's portrayal of Trump's desperate supporters that is unforgivable, as is his political support of Hillary Clinton. Bacevich could have ignored the duopoly, the false dichotomy of American politics, and like the Menckens and Twains of the past, sat on the side-lines as an objective critic of the miasma that is Washington. By "joining a side" he has destroyed any credibility he ever had. We have been engaged in a culture war for decades and this military man knows where the battle-lines are drawn. He has chosen to fight alongside those who are transforming our country into a post Christian, post-Western, nightmare. Unz, stop giving this faux conservative a podium.

    Hello Cassandra,

    While I agree with your sentiments vis-a-vis the singularly execrable Bacevich, I have to disagree with your opinion about Ron Unz publishing his duplicitous tripe.

    Unlike you, I wasn’t really aware of Bacevich, and am very pleased to know what a treacherous little rat he is. Were it not for this expose’, I wouldn’t have known, and I like to know things. That’s why I come here, to edify myself to the goings ons, and players, and betrayers, and liars and shills, and those who expose them.

    Ron Unz has effectively exposed the pathetic little rat Bacevich for what he is.

    We’re in a battle for the survival of our civilization and our progeny. So that they aren’t made into slaves and genocided off the planet. And make no mistake, those are the stakes involved here.

    Judas is singularly reviled specifically because he knew and understood what he was doing and to whom. He knew he was betraying God Himself, but for personal gain, he did it anyways.

    Men like Bacevich understand that they are betraying our very existence to the devil, who wants us all enslaved and eventually blended out of existence.

    It’s as existential as a battle gets, because if we lose, we lose everything. Our civilization all the way to our children’s future, right off the face of the planet.

    It’s right that I mentioned Zimbabwe, because when that nation was having a debate about it’s future, and the fate of the Westerners who had built that nation, many people understood exactly what it would mean to hand over rule to others. They knew that it would be existential and that there would be no future for the children of the people who had built and created that nation.

    But they shilled for black rule anyways, because it was deemed personally expedient for them to do so. Like Bacevich, they knew their betrayal would doom the people they were betraying, but like Judas, they considered their personal advancement to be worth it.

    I’m glad to know this about Bacevich, and I’d like to see all the liars and shills have their treachery subjected to the crucible of the Unz Review comments section.

    Cheers

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  184. bahmi says:
    @Ben_C

    American voters chose Trump. And he’s a great President. Maybe the best ever.
     
    If true, that's certainly a grim reality...

    Lots of alternate bloggers/writers insist Trump is the end of the world, the beginning of our total peonage. Forgetting the consequences of having the Witch in the WH is such a convenient dodge. 2 people ran for President, one won. Reasonable writers that think that the sun rises and sets only on Trump are sadly mistaken. We must always, always realize the had Clinton become POTUS, we’d be in the most dire straits humanly possible. As in, the end of our nation and the beginning of our bondage. The witch would delight in breaking Mao’s world record for kills and every whining Trump hater knows this but conveniently fails to mention it. We won’t let them forget, however. Never, ever.

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  185. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1
    The Nationalists had the moral high ground and were simply better human beings. Besides, they had the best music:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfPsWwxqITY

    You only say that because you’re a fascist

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  186. You completely missed the point. Trump would never have been president if Bill Clinton had not been elected. The fault for that !is in two places. Democrats who did not challenge Bush in 1982 and Ross Perot, who siphoned so many votes from Bush that it threw the election to Clinton.

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  187. People are sick of the political filth.
    Not too tough is it?

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