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See, earlier, by Chilton Williamson: Easter And The Resurrection Of The West

R.R. Reno’s book Return of the Strong Gods: Nationalism, Populism, and the Future of the West is a brilliant analysis with a disappointing conclusion. Reno, Editor of First Things Magazine, describes the development of a “postwar order” wherein both the mainstream Right and Left agreed that an “Open Society” was the highest good, necessary to prevent the return of “Strong Gods” like nationalism and traditional religion, which supposedly lead to totalitarianism. Reno conclusion: we must turn back to the “Strong Gods” to recreate social solidarity. However, his preference may be unrealistic.

VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow was criticized for calling current immigration policy “Hitler’s revenge” in his 1995 book Alien Nation. Yet Reno proves that Brimelow was essentially correct. The World Wars I and II Reno writes, “evoked a powerful, American-led response that was anti-fascist, anti-totalitarian, anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, and anti-racist.” These imperatives “define[d] the postwar era.”

The wars were retconned: we ultimately fought against our own inner fascist. To ensure “Never Again,” Western intellectuals and politicians decided that we must attack the “closed society” of strong loyalties and accepted truths. As Reno describes their thinking:

We do so by relativizing them, putting them into their historical contexts, critiquing their xenophobic, patriarchal, cisgender, and racist legacies, and showing how they are products of a sociobiological process that produces in us a reptilian ‘ tribal mind’.”

The book’s strongest point is Reno’s utterly engrossing survey of the various writers and intellectuals who advocated different facets of this principle of deconstruction. They include Jacques Derrida, Michel Foucault, Gianni Vattimo and others. Others have identified the “Frankfurt School” as the root of the West’s deconstruction, but Reno’s critique is even more systematic and philosophically grounded. One after the other, everything that is solid in the Western tradition was undermined, weakened, and ultimately pummeled into slime, a spirit of entropy we see in our politics, universities, and even our hideously ugly modern architecture.

Strikingly, Reno argues that free-market champions like Friedrich Hayek shared many of the core premises of the “Open Society” dogma. “They [Left and Right] are united in their pursuit of an open society, differing only in focus and emphasis,” Reno writes. “These projects–economic deregulation and cultural deregulation–are not at odds with each other.” Together, they form the “postwar consensus”—which Reno concedes arose for good reason.

Karl Popper’s “Open Society” became the ideal, in which metaphysical truth claims are denounced as implicitly totalitarian. Popper’s most influential follower: none other than financier George Soros, who has spent billions to spread this ideology through the Open Society Foundations.

Reno calls the Open Society ideal an attack on the “Strong Gods,” by which he means “objects of men’s love and devotion, the sources of the passions and loyalties that unite societies.” Here, he sounds like Patrick J. Buchanan, who asked in a recent column Who will fight for the Eurozone and EU? “One of the Strong Gods that the nations of the West must overcome is the nation itself,” writes Reno. This is what VDARE.com calls the National Question, the question of whether Western nation-states can and should survive.

One is reminded of John Lennon’s Imagine and the promise of “nothing to kill or die for.”

While it’s easy to roll your eyes at such nihilism, the deconstructionists did capture an essential truth. “Violence,” writes Gianni Vattimo (cited by Reno), “ultimately draws from the need, the resolve, and the desire to reach up and be taken up into the first principle.” That’s true. Though Vattimo obviously means this as criticism, his quotation reminded me of Julius Evola’s Metaphysics of War, in which Evola essentially says the same thing, defending war’s “spiritual value” because it allows heroic individuals to realize the “law of a ‘more-than-life” and the warrior’s ultimate self-actualization via death in battle. After the World Wars, one can understand the desire by some to deconstruct the cult of heroism. To his credit, Reno does not strawman his subjects.

However, the desire to prevent the return of the “Strong Gods” has led to a problem: what Reno calls the

…fanaticism of our leadership class, whose hyper-moralistic sense of mission­—either us or Hitler—prevents us from addressing our economic, demographic, cultural and political problems.

Thus, we end up with student radicals, Cultural Marxist vigilantes like the Southern Poverty Law Center, and endless calls by JournoFa to deplatform, censor, and financially strangle anyone who dissents from Open Society orthodoxy.

Indeed, even non-political movements are seen as posing a danger to the Open Society. Thus even the free-market “Right” is deeply uncomfortable with movements or institutions rooted in something other than economic self-interest.

As Reno writes: “As soon as we bond together to seek a common good or higher truth, we begin to forge institutions and movements to organize social life in accord with our convictions. These are non-market organizations that form the nucleus of the ‘monster state.”

He argues that the “culture of freedom” encouraged by free market intellectuals like Hayek or Milton Friedman “paradoxically encourages the careful and minute management of culture” to prevent the emergence of “non-market organizations” based on faith or identity. If you doubt this, visit Left Twitter for five minutes.

Thus, “freedom” only exists within the confines of “mass culture.” Because of Derrida and others, transgression substitutes for culture. And, as Reno puts it, there is “a restless utopianism that is always looking for another boundary to overcome, as the present mania for transgenderism demonstrates.”

The push for “diversity,” which Reno notes was initially supposed to be simply a temporary compensatory measure, has now been redefined as a positive good according to the Supreme Court. (Judge Allison Burroughs recently called it “axiomatically” good in the recent case approving Harvard’s racial discriminatory policies.)

Reno perceptively writes that this was “foreordained” because colorblind justice limits what can and cannot be done. In contrast, “diversity” allows one to do anything to create a “world without walls.”

Now, even questioning diversity “betrays who we are as a country,” in Barack Obama’s words, quoted by Reno. We are defined by the fact that there’s nothing which defines us.

Thus Reno points out that many Americans have a hard time making a moral justification why we are allowed to exclude any immigrants. “Open Borders are an emblem of an open society,” he writes. He notes that to politicians, diversity serves as the “firewall against resurgent racism and fascism.” Some even think, he says, that “after Auschwitz, the West does not deserve to endure,” and mass migration will be a “blessed deliverance from a cursed inheritance.”

Though Reno does not cite it, this is eerily reminiscent of the attitude of those who, in in Jean Raspail’s prophetic 1973 novel The Camp of the Saints , welcomed an illegal alien invasion. (Equally prophetically, in Raspail’s telling, they included the Pope.)

So what does Reno suggest as an answer?

Curiously, he writes (in italics no less) that there is “a crisis of the postwar consensus, the weak gods of openness and weakening, not a crisis of liberalism, modernity, or the West.

Yet how can that be? Early in the book, Reno admits the “relentless pursuit of openness, disenchantment, and weakening” was “implicit in liberalism” even before 1945. The effort to halt the post-New Deal liberal project and say “this far, but no further” is essentially what the American conservative movement has been trying and failing to do for sixty years now.

Reno repeatedly cites James Burnham’s Suicide of the West. He writes Burnham wanted the West to “recover a firm, principled self-confidence based on the superiority of its way of life.” He also argues that Burnham wanted something like “a call for reflection on the metaphysical foundations of a free society.”

But Burnham’s entire philosophy was thoroughly modernist and anti-metaphysical, positing that political analysis should be grounded in concrete power relations. In The Machiavellians, Burnham repeatedly urged readers to dismiss the “formal” arguments and uncover the “real” meaning. He went out of his way to mock the formal argument of Dante’s metaphysics-laden De Monarchia as “totally worthless.”

What Burnham called “taboos, magic, superstition, personified abstractions, myths, gods”—Reno’s “Strong Gods”—are necessary, in his view, because they work. He goes so far as to say Athens was “probably right” to condemn Socrates “from the point of view of survival.”

Indeed, Reno’s own First Things recently launched an extraordinarily clumsy and stupid attack [The Outsider, October 2019]by Matthew Rose, billed as “director and senior fellow at the Berkeley Institute,” on Burnham’s most distinguished follower, Sam Francis, precisely because Francis supposedly lacked a sense of the transcendent [Sam Francis, The Prophet, by Gregory Hood, American Renaissance, September 27, 2019].

So what does Reno want? Ultimately, he says, a concept of “home.” He lands an absolute gut punch when he recounts the story of a woman in France who observed that immigrants can “go home” whenever they feel like it, but if she loses France, there is nowhere to go.

How do we secure “home”? Reno argues for a renewed attachment to the concept of “we,” which “arises out of love, a ferocious power that seeks to rest in something greater than oneself” [excerpted at First ThingsThe Miracle of We, October 28, 2019]. In the book, Reno says he wants a “widespread revival of Christianity in the West,” and until that happens, an acknowledgement by unbelievers of the value of the “transcendent.”

Ren is not wrong about the social benefits of religion. But which religion? Assuming Christianity, which sect? Indeed, which faction in the Catholic Church, whose current Vicar of Christ may be prostrating himself before Third World idols from the Amazon [Not even Pope Francis can deny the Pachamama is a pagan idol, by Steven Mosher, LifeSite, October 28, 2019]?

The Pope certainly doesn’t want Western nations to secure their borders. Are we to be subjected to yet another effort to invent a meaningless “Judeo-Christian” heritage to keep the American project limping along?

Near the end of his book, Reno recounts how a black man in a church asked how “we”—meaning all Americans—could have treated black airmen so badly during World War II. Reno suggests that this man’s feeling he was “implicated in the racial injustices of white Americans” was the “fearsome gift of the Strong Gods” because it meant national unity. This unity will “forestall the dark gods who rise up from below.”

So, after a whole book about the problems of deconstructionism, open borders, multiculturalism, and so much more, we’re just left with vague hopes of inter-racial unity based on shared shame over America’s historic prejudice.

We’re also back where we started, being drafted to fight the “dark gods” that the postwar “Open Society” order was built to combat. Why?

Like the protagonists at the end of the 2012 horror movie The Cabin in the Woods, I personally would rather let these “dark gods” consume this evil order.

But this is a personal criticism, borne of my own skepticism that dying institutions can (or should) be saved. “That which is falling should also be pushed,” said Nietzsche, and post-New Deal liberalism, cowardly clergymen, and treasonous politicians are not worthy of patriots’ sacrifice. What is needed is a new spirit, new institutions, and new archetypes or “gods.”

Still, Reno’s book is overall so impressive I’m willing to entertain that he may speak from a deeper wisdom than I do. Reno is not insensitive to the rootlessness and frustration felt by so many young Americans, and his case is not made flippantly.

In a moving 2002 VDARE.com column, Chilton Williamson reminded us that through the Christian religion, the West avoided destruction and disintegration. “There is no parallel to this survival in the history of mankind,” he wrote.

The West has resurrected before. Perhaps, if enough people study Reno’s observations and think, act, and pray accordingly, it can resurrect again.

James Kirkpatrick [Email him] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:

    No gods or superstitions required. Just be good.
    See Sam Harris’ ‘The Moral Landscape’

  2. Tusk says:

    I don’t think Christianity is going to be the way to ‘save’ the West. And I use scare quotes around save simply because what is the Christian answer to this problem? To convert the masses to Christianity? I do not relish at the idea of my country being flooded with African christians who after their ‘conversion’ and suppossed assimilation are now my loyal compatriots. Civic nationalism is an abysmal choice, but it a political or religious sense of the nationalism. From experience when most Christians are asked to whether or not a White non-Christian future or a Christian white minority future is preferrable, they stick to their faith. Who can blame them? If they think that is the metaphysical truth they must live by so be it, but why then seek to control the physical world instead of leaving it up to those who want to live in the here and now, not seek the satisfaction of heaven.
    I certainly don’t see a future of salvation through this path.

  3. Anyone ever consider the possibility that this pope’s objective is to Islamify Western Europe? I’m pretty sure that the majority of African migrants(invaders) to Europe are Muslims, not Christians.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    , @sally
  4. @Tusk

    A return to Christianity? Pure delusion. Symptomatic of a loss of ideas.
    As to the Frankfurt school (FS) esp’ Post Modernism (PM) has anyone noticed how basically convergent in time they are with neoliberalism? (NL) Yes, the FS came before – just. Hayek & CO were discussing NL around that time.
    NL was given a cultural fillip as a reaction to the perceived anarchy of the 60’s. (Had Vietnam not occurred, I doubt even 50% of the mayhem would have occurred.) Indeed, one might argue that absent the “guns & butter” policies associated with Vietnam, the economic issues of the 70’s wouldn’t have been as dire.

    PC etc arose as the resentment of the repressed. Unable to influence real politics, ie the economy, imperialism, they simply ignored those basics & turned to micro-justice. Class out, minorities in.
    Elites had no problems exploiting this — like they give a shit if they have to say the “right” thing re women, blacks, etc.
    Reno asks a good question — how do we secure “home” ? His answers are not so good. Yes “love” is important, but then to argue for various, at least christian forms of “transcendence” is decadent.
    The “easiest” method I guess is to liquidate 6-7 billion out of the world’s near 8 billion population.
    I’m superstitious enough to wish to avoid such an option.
    However, there is a way. No one (or few) wish to leave home. Grant them a job sufficient to raise a family….& they won’t want to lob in over your border.
    How?
    No more Iraq’s, Libyas, Syria’s, Afghanistan’s etc — how many millions of refugees would have been non-existent had such war never been
    Secondly, liquidate the IMF, the World Bank, maybe the UN.
    Thirdly, Socialism. Parts of an economy need to be owned/controlled by a government of the people. Other parts are better left to private individuals. Example — financial (indeed FIRE) needs to be shrunk until IT can be drowned in a bathtub.
    Fourthly, socialism in one country is inadequate — economic justice must be extended to poorer (or all) countries. Nothing complex, merely fair trade & no usury.
    Fithly, the greatest enemy of the “Family” & the world is hyper-consumerism.
    Stability demands equity. The unquenchable lust “for more” & more & more is the enemy of
    the nation. Infinite lusts do not integrate into a world of finite resources.
    Unless, you want the eternal instability of a 00.1% against the rest. Better build better walls…. & give a wink to today’s out of control corruption…..

    • Agree: Tusk, utu
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  5. c matt says:

    This “pope’s” objective seems to be to destroy the Catholic Church. If muslifying Europe is what it takes, I’m sure he’s on board.

    If you put it in binary (White majority non-Christian future vs. White minority Christian future), then sure, most would opt for the latter. But why does it have to be binary? Why not a White majority Christian future? Nations/kingdoms did not disappear when when Christianity ruled the West.

    • Replies: @Macon Richardson
  6. Svevlad says:

    A simple meme exists –

    begome ordodox 😀

    • Replies: @GMC
    , @Anon
  7. Interesting line of thought …
    Without something to sacrifice – in extremis to die – for there can be no solidarity (cohesion, “social capital”, etc.).
    “A general sense of meaning” would be more accurate than simply “God”.

    – The power of new religions is grounded in shedding the slackers and deadbeats, followed by expansion and, finally, rot. And so it is with empires and everything else.
    In effect it is Haeckel´s Law of Life: Typogenesis -> Typostasis -> Typolysis.
    Gibbon would have liked it 😀
    Caesar famously tried to stem the flow but failed.
    Iulian Apostata tried it with religion – didn´t work.
    The Great One succeeded admirably but had the Movement been allowed to run its course it would have bumped into the same wall.

    – Outside pressure is the secret (Solshenitsyn held that only big-time LOST wars lead to meaningful social change) – success is self-defeating (akin to the disastrous consequences of eliminating extraspecific selection pressure – by technology and medicine – and switching to intraspecific).

    – “Anti-semitism” is the lifeblood of the diaspora Jew; if there isn´t enough, it must be created. Clearly the ones with the vestedest interest in “Jewish solidarity” are the miscreants (Exhibit A: history of the ADL); the secret is to make all Jews complicit and reasonably afraid of the Revenge of the Goyim (nice film title, eh?).
    I mean that as an apologism: The Jews are neither the primary nor the exclusive cause of the rot.

    – Towards the end of the 10th century the Magyars were pestering Europe, and Heinrich I. invented knighthood to deal with them; it worked but soon´s the Hungarians were halfway domesticated the knights became a plague of their own, necessitating the Crusades (sound familiar?), loads of peasant uprisings and the Reformation. The States formerly known as United are in for a way bumpier ride.

    IMHO the takeaways are:

    – All is not lost (Wot doesn´t kill us … 😛 )
    – The “cure” may not be altogether to our liking.

    Probably this guy from the 9th SS Panzer I met in my Kurdish haunt put it best:
    “Listen.(he didn´t say “little” but that´s clearly what he meant) All you are bitching about are side effects of peace – I do not begrudge it to the young.”

  8. J says: • Website

    He goes so far as to say Athens was “probably right” to condemn Socrates “from the point of view of survival.” Socrates was actively undermining and subverting the State. The one who brought him to trial for his life was the father of one of his pupils, the real reason for which we can only imagine.

    BTW, Pachamama is a quechwa, Andean goddess, not Amazonian. Not that it matters.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  9. Miro23 says:

    But this is a personal criticism, borne of my own skepticism that dying institutions can (or should) be saved. “That which is falling should also be pushed,” said Nietzsche, and post-New Deal liberalism, cowardly clergymen, and treasonous politicians are not worthy of patriots’ sacrifice. What is needed is a new spirit, new institutions, and new archetypes or “gods.”

    Better to let the old rotten tree fall in the next wind storm. The vacant plot gets sunlight and fresh new shoots.

    • Replies: @Mark Raven
  10. KenH says:

    Some even think, he says, that “after Auschwitz, the West does not deserve to endure,” and mass migration will be a “blessed deliverance from a cursed inheritance.”

    So because one nation allegedly did something (HT: Ilhan Omar) the entire West must perish? The mass gassings at Auschwitz were refuted by the work of Fred Leuchter who determined gassings were not technically feasible. Of course organized Jewry ruined his life shortly thereafter.

    The desire for the West to perish because of Auschwitz also doesn’t take into account that it was Western nations and peoples that defeated the evil Western nation that was supposedly persecuting and summarily killing Jews and other minorities en masse .

    Should the Muslim religion and its votaries and followers perish because of the many crimes of the Ottoman empire and the many millions killed by the murderous Tamerlane?

    Should Jews and Judaism perish because of Karl Marx, communism and scores of millions who died as the result of Jewish revolutionary activity in the 20th century?

    • Agree: Dannyboy, Hail
  11. Chris K says:
    @Tusk

    Mexicans are already Christians and they vote 70% for democrats and soycialism

  12. Christianity cannot save the west because what we call Christianity is not.

    Pope Leo X departed from Christianity in 1515 when he reversed 2500 years of Mosaic/Christian teaching to declare it was okay to charge interest on loans.

    Early Protestants were aghast at this but one by one they defected too.

    The overturning of traditional religious as well as philosophic thought on the question of usury (lending at any rate of interest) was not arrived at by consensus. The Pope declared anathema anyone who disagreed from him.

    Are we sufficiently concerned about the direction in which we are going to examine an innovation from five centuries ago? See USURY IN CHRISTENDOM, The Mortal Sin That Was But Now Is Not, by Michael Hoffman.

    Christ has not failed. Christians have.

    • Agree: Dennis Gannon
  13. E_Perez says:

    Funny title, either intentionally misleading or simple Hitler bashing.

    A ‘revenge’ is, when you finally get what you initially wanted, after loosing in previous attempts.

    Hitler never wanted to destroy the US or any other white country through immigration. Quite the contrary: he defended the White Race which he called the ‘Aryans’ and warned us, which forces were about to destroy it, if not separated from the Aryans and given their own country.

    The Anglo-Saxons ignored the warnings and chose to side with these forces to destroy the only white tribe that had the brains, power and courage to resist the destruction of their race.

    So, given the current state of affairs – with no ‘resurrection’ on the horizon – the title should better read “Hitler’s worst predictions fulfilled”

  14. Heydrich says:

    Let’s be honest here. The whole White Nationalist reaction has to do with certain members of society, namely those that identify with traditional values and strengths, realizing that their own oxen are being gored. An example is the oil industry. Once upon a time we though of it as being an American institution, and as such putting the needs of the US citizen above those of other countries. Now we realize that if China is paying more than we are, then guess where those barrels are going? At least until the market stabilizes and we are all paying the same prices, US consumer be damned. The SWPL types are the same fools that reject unions because their too smart for that (example are IT types that willingly pay for the latest Micro$oft cert, but rail against the IBEW), and that somehow being manipulated and inundated with HI-B visa holder is okay, since their latest homosexual experience was with a Paki. What one notices is that the same groups that fought Rome, that fought in the coal fields and to the last man in the Pacific are realizing that those same people (white like us???) that financed the slave ships (which lowered labor costs), that supported the economic rationales of the Potatoe Famine (land grab), and have consistently used the US as a standing army in the Middle East, might not have all of our interests at heart. It’s almost as if there are tribes of White people, and the weaker, more treacherous ones have gained control in the Post-Industrial era. Hmmm… Can we say Dutch Disease?????

    • Agree: Druid
  15. anarchyst says:
    @Gordon Pratt

    The beginning of the end of traditional Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church Vatican II Ecumenical Council of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants who were involved in the “modernization” of the Catholic Church.

    Much Catholic ritual and doctrine was discarded or changed, in order to reflect the “age” that we live in, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for his crucifixion and death. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) to do their “dirty work” for them…

    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its universality. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.

    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new Modern Mass and the New Church, in general. It took a brave Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.

    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an actor, diminishing his status and importance.

    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church dogma or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations, nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.

    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize pre-Vatican II principles.
    Fortunately, there are Catholic organizations that subscribe to pre-Vatican II principles, one being the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX).

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Gordon Pratt
  16. Teardrops for all world to see. (over beer bottle.) I do love tipsy authors.

  17. White Europe is under the spell of three powers.

    Brainy Jews
    Brawny Negroids
    Broody Muslims

    Jews with superior IQ took over the US and control Europe as its vassal. Also, Jews come up with ideas that come to shape new ‘Western Values’. Jews took over the white mind.

    Negroids with their superior muscle power take over sports, and they become the new heroes of Europe, and white people come to worship Negroes as athletes, singers, and studs. Blacks crushed the white body.

    Muslims with their broiling faith have more intensity than cucky-wuck post-Christians who lack spiritual conviction. Muslims fill the vacuum of the white soul.

  18. @Gordon Pratt

    I agree with you that the real problem in the West is fundamentally socioeconomic.

    There can be no serious talk these days of re-Christianizing the West; it just is not possible. Only a handful of people today actually understand the metaphysical prerequisites of the Christian religion, and one certainly cannot number the clergy among them, especially not the currently reigning Antipope Francis.

    Before Christianity can be reintroduced in a genuine (not pseudomorphic) fashion, there has to be a great releasement from all the forms of modernity, from the rule of oligarchs and money, from the innumerable cultural distortions that arise ultimately from our enslavement to the wicked monetary idea. Such a change can only be affected by economic means.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    , @Hank Yobo
  19. Wally says:

    – Predictably we read of the greatest religion of them all, the fake & impossible “holocaust”, aka: the great enabler of Zionist & Communist atrocities.

    said
    “Some even think, he says, that “after Auschwitz, the West does not deserve to endure,” and mass migration will be a “blessed deliverance from a cursed inheritance.”

    – So many do indeed fantasize that “after Auschwitz, the West does not deserve to endure”, but as has been rather easily demonstrated at this site and many others, the ridiculous lies about Auschwitz do not stand up to science & rational thought.

    – It’s the preposterous “holocaust” religion posing as fact that rules the west, and nothing will change as long as that continues. Absolutely nothing.
    recommended:
    ‘Holocaust’ Handbooks, volume 36:
    Auschwitz: Eyewitness Reports and Perpetrator Confessions of the Holocaust—30 Gas-Chamber Witnesses Scrutinized, by Jürgen Graf: https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1&page_id=36

  20. tac says:

    People are simply slow to learn what goes against their traditional beliefs…Do they dare to simply gauge what is out of their epicenter? Of course not! What if what you’ve been told is nothing but utter lies and distortions to keep you in “your” place? Are you willing to be “plundered” without having a voice in the matter? yes or no?



    https://www.impartialtruth.com/

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @Durruti
  21. Seraphim says:

    @Athens was “probably right” to condemn Socrates “from the point of view of survival.”

    Where did we hear the same argument? In some book.
    Ah, yes: ” Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. 48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation. 49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, 50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not 51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; 52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad. 53 Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death.” (John 11:47-53).

    Who is the ‘Strong God’ who must return?
    “Lift up your gates, ye princes, and be ye lifted up, ye everlasting doors; and the king of glory shall come in. 8 Who is this king of Glory? the Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle. 9 Lift up your gates, ye princes; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the king of glory shall come in. 10 Who is this king of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is this king of glory” (Psalm 23:7-10).

    But wouldn’t that risk to bring African christians in?

  22. @Miro23

    From the article:

    The West has resurrected before.

    Not from what’s happening to it now, it hasn’t.

    Never before has its population been replaced wholesale by the most primitive people on earth. Soon what you have is no longer “The West”.

    • Agree: Realist, Hail
    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  23. GMC says:
    @Svevlad

    It’s working in Russia , but then Russia has primarily been Orthodox and Islamic, and was sacked by the Jew Bolsheviks and returned to Christianity by Patriarch Kiril and Putin. The New world was founded on BS religion where it was OK to take the non christian lands and do whatever – with the inhabitants. And today the USG keeps up that same ” Law of Discovery”. The religion only works in certain countries with normal leaders. I think – lol

  24. Franz says:
    @Gordon Pratt

    Christ has not failed. Christians have.

    Once becoming baptized, the first followers of JC were called “Christs” not Christians.

    Christ failed. There were no Christians, only failed Christs. How could it be otherwise? Hijacked by Canaanite bandits, Christ became wedded to the wrong place.

    White nations are Christs-in-Exile. Robert Graves was succint about it after WWII: Get back your spirit, Western Man, or lose it all. Others since have been just as blunt.

    Letting Levintine bandits sell you back your god they stole on the installment plan… not working out, and in the last decade, not pretending to.

    Stop pussyfooting about. If you mean White Gods, say so. “Strong” can mean anything. Strong poison?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  25. jhan says:

    How is Christianity going to ‘save the west’? by turning the other cheek? molesting choir boys? love thy neighbor? taking the sick, hungry and poor? Hitler didn’t lament the meekness of Christianity for no reason. Unless you somehow manage to resurrect the institution of knighthood I don’t see it working.

    And what is this ‘west’? if it cannot remain western with mass migration than it apparently means white people, or just call them Europeans, wherever they live.

    So what makes more sense than feeling pride in a connection with your ancestors? That certainly worked very well for centuries for the Jews, they didn’t have an exclusive Jewish state, just like whites don’t have an exclusive white state today.

    Germanic/Celtic paganism as a base makes more sense because obviously it grew out of ancestor worship so atheist alike can feel comfortable with it, with genetic testing it’s even based in science and this also brings a level of exclusiveness to it on par with Judaism.

    The only problem with paganism is that as far as I know it’s underdeveloped in terms of traditions, customs, in- and out-group rules, morals and a sense of life purpose. It needs to be updated to be fit for survival in multi-cultural settings.

    • Replies: @Bert
  26. KenH says:
    @Priss Factor

    Jews took over the white mind.

    As Alex Linder said, the Jews put their head on the white body. The majority of whites, even on the right, are now quasi Jews in their world outlook.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  27. Realist says:

    I don’t think Christianity is going to be the way to ‘save’ the West.

    The only purpose of religion is to comfort and control the weak.

  28. Seraphim says:
    @Franz

    No, they were called Christians.
    “And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch/ χρηματίσαι τε πρῶτον ἐν Ἀντιοχείᾳ τοὺς μαθητὰς Χριστιανούς (Acts 11:26).

    • Replies: @Franz
  29. Emmet says: • Website
    @anon

    And who defines what ‘good’ is? You?

    • Replies: @Anon
  30. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svevlad

    What do you like best about Latvian Orthodoxy? The hats?

  31. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Emmet

    At least he, unlike god, exists.

  32. Native Born White Americans are still afraid of being called RACISTS!!!!…And as a consequence are psychologically incapable of taking their own side in a debate with the nonwhite highly RACIALIZED Democratic Party Voting Bloc…

    Trump’s Native Born White American Voting Bloc isn’t able to process between their ears that Trump is importing the Democratic Party Voting Bloc China…India…Korea…even though at several campaign rallies he has boasted:”I HAVE CRATED SO MANY JOBS…THAT I HAVE TO IMPORT LOTS OF CHINESE….INDIAN…KOREAN…LEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO FILL THESE JOBS”….No he doesn’t…unless you believe a severe labor scarcity is a bad thing….which it isn’t for a severe labor scarcity means a high wage economy for the THE HISTORIC WORKING CLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MAJORITY…….So Trump is telling his White Voting Bloc that he is going to inflict a low real wage job market upon them and that he is going to race-replace them in US Labor Markets with the highly RACIALIZED Democratic Party Voting Bloc from Asia…..THINK ABOUT IT…

    • Agree: Republic
  33. DC Beltway And Northern Virginia Immigration Reform Organizations have been a White Liberal Cancer….They will never mention the HUWHITE!!! word…always blathering on about their anti-xenophobia and ant-racism…..about how the are for Immigration Reform so as to protect the nonwhite children of post-1965 nonwhite LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and protecting the NONWHITE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS…….

    I am no more…no less RACIST!!!! than the highly RACIALIZED nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc……THEREFORE…..I AM A VERY PROUD NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN RACIST….

  34. And don’t ever forget this:

    The SPLC is a greedy Jewish RACE HATE Organization that agitates for the DEMOGRAPHIC MURDER IN COLD BLOOD!!!! of the Working Class Native Born White American Historic Majority…

    They want us DEAD!!!!!

    Think about it…..

  35. @kerdasi amaq

    Pope Francis is a dick. He will shatter the church in a way Stalin and Marx dared not dream of in their wildest fantasies.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  36. DanFromCT says:

    I agree with James Kirkpatrick and would rather let these “dark gods” consume this evil order at this point. The problem is the specifics of where it ends, given that there is no effective opposition to any of it other than the de facto controlled opposition of the sad sack Republicans who oppose the homicidally anti-white, anti-Western coalition with foppish punctilio. We don’t know who these Republican empty suits are, except they were chosen behind closed doors in almost every case because they’re blackmailable. There can be no other explanation, since no men could otherwise lose so much of their manhood.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  37. geokat62 says:

    Some even think, he says, that “after Auschwitz, the West does not deserve to endure,” and mass migration will be a “blessed deliverance from a cursed inheritance.”

    Let’s be a little more specific, shall we?

    [Jewish Supremacists and their Traitorous Shabbos Goys] even think, he says, that “after Auschwitz, the West does not deserve to endure,” and mass migration will be a “blessed deliverance from a cursed inheritance.”

  38. sally says:
    @kerdasi amaq

    i think the issue is how to unite humanity around humanity itself.. All decisions, political, economic, religions, or whatever should be made and allowed to be acted on, iff acting on such a decision is provably good for all humans, not just something that will improve the lot of a limited few..

    The goal is humanity, the measure is human quality of life, not the best bank, not the most powerful military, not jobs for everyone in one nation state at the expense of those in another nation state, etc. what ever is allowed to occur must improve the lot of humanity or it should not be allowed. No one should die, be imprisoned on denied because of the act..

    I think Reno is sitting inside of a view limited crucible. Humanity needs no leadership, it naturally practices democracy, it may a need a philosophy that expresses that democracy in the multitudes of languages in which it converses, and definitely humanity needs a system of measurement that can accurately render measures of quality of life and discover failures of security that protects humanity from false philosophies. There is but one philosophy, if it is good for mankind, then it is acceptable.

    It is the obligation of everyone not to allow any ideology, any philosophy, any nation state hegemony or any whatever to interfere with the obligation of those who act, to act; if the act infringes on security or denies life quality of all humanity, unless all harms are eliminated, unless all humanity is considered and taken equally, and unless the result in an improvement in qualify of life and security of that life to the best and longest possible, it should be denied. No action should be allowed. and those who engage in such an act should be punished.

    The death sentence should be attached to all who act in ways that infringe on the individual rights of any member of mankind. No questions asked: the measurement of the results of an action, program or activity that shows the result to be negative to the progress, security or rights of mankind, dictates the punishment..

  39. Zumbuddi says:
    @tac

    Am I willing to be plundered without resisting?

    No.

  40. Angharad says:

    Reno’s site bans any-one who adressess racial reality. Especially regarding the systematic subversion and attacks on the West by Der ewige Jude.

    Reno only care about Catholocism. Period. The End. In my experience, being a Catholic is the ONLY thing that matter to Catholics.

  41. gotmituns says:

    Read the “Myth of the Twentieth Century” or “Hitler’s Revolution, or both.” The “Myth” is heavy reading.

  42. @Priss Factor: Blacks only “control” two sports; american football and basketball. In baseball, there are now fewer black players proportionally than thirty years ago.

    BTW, your idea that blacks have superior muscle mass is just as false now as it was years ago, when you first raised it.

    • Agree: MikeatMikedotMike
    • Replies: @nsa
  43. @KenH

    Jews have succeeded in reshaping the West to reflect their values, serve their interests and gratify their 2000-year-old spite against Christianity and even more ancient spite against the goyim in general.

  44. Donald Trump is enthusiacally importing the highly RACIALIZED Democratic Party Voting Bloc from China…….LEGALLY…..

  45. We are defined by the fact that there’s nothing which defines us.

    White Core America is defined as the essential European Christian ancestral core of the United States of America.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is attacking and destroying the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is using mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION as demographic weapons to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is using the importation of REFUGEE OVERLOAD as a demographic weapon to attack and destroy cultural cohesion in the USA.

    The US State Department, which runs the REFUGEE OVERLOAD scam, is deliberately targeting mostly White states to attack and destroy cultural cohesion in those mostly White states.

    I asked little rich boy Mammonite Mormon puke Jon Huntsman at a presidential primary event if he supported the importation of more REFUGEE OVERLOAD into the USA. I told that little rich boy puke Huntsman that the US State Department was deliberately pouring REFUGEE OVERLOAD into mostly White states like New Hampshire, Maine, Minnesota, Tennessee and others in order to create multicultural mayhem and social chaos in those mostly White states.

    Little rich boy puke Jon Huntsman said he supported the importation of more REFUGEE OVERLOAD into his state of Utah, and that he strongly supported the REFUGEE OVERLOAD racket when he was governor of Utah.

    Remember, most Americans of English ancestry are not WASPs. Jon Huntsman, however, is an evil brown-eyed WASP turd treasonite globalizer.

  46. anon[214] • Disclaimer says:

    our problem is organization ,after thousands of years living in homogeneous societies we didnt need to form a culture based on strong etnocentrism and fell victim of the most ethnocentric group in earth, dont despair we have more than enought smart people to awaken the colective european soul and lead it to victory its only a matter of time.

    and let me relativize jewish success they have win a battle in a war over 2000 years, the counterattack start now.

  47. onebornfree says: • Website

    The book [I haven’t read it , and don’t plan to] appears to be just another worthless statist screed calling for statist [ie government] solutions to problems caused by the states themselves [_all_ of them] .

    This just in: The state doesn’t solve problems, it creates them. Only freely acting [ ie non-coerced] individuals can create solutions to problems, religious or otherwise, never the state:

    The state is the most destructive institution human beings have ever devised—a fire that, at best, can be controlled for only a short time before it o’erleaps its improvised confinements and spreads its flames far and wide.

    Whatever promotes the growth of the state also weakens the capacity of individuals in civil society to fend off the state’s depredations and therefore augments the public’s multifaceted victimization at the hands of state functionaries. Nothing promotes the growth of the state as much as national emergency—war and other crises comparable to war in the seriousness of the threats they pose.

    States, by their very nature, are perpetually at war—not always against foreign foes, of course, but always against their own subjects. The state’s most fundamental purpose, the activity without which it cannot even exist, is robbery. The state gains its very sustenance from robbery, which it pretties up ideologically by giving it a different name (taxation) and by striving to sanctify its intrinsic crime as permissible and socially necessary. State propaganda, statist ideologies, and long-established routine combine to convince many people that they have a legitimate obligation, even a moral duty to pay taxes to the state that rules their society.

    They fall into such erroneous moral reasoning because they are told incessantly that the tribute they fork over is actually a kind of price paid for essential services received, and that in the case of certain services, such as protection from foreign and domestic aggressors against their rights to life, liberty, and property, only the government can provide the service effectively. They are not permitted to test this claim by resorting to competing suppliers of law, order, and security, however, because the government enforces a monopoly over the production and distribution of its alleged “services” and brings violence to bear against would-be competitors. In so doing, it reveals the fraud at the heart of its impudent claims and gives sufficient proof that it is not a genuine protector, but a mere protection racket. ……”:

    From:”The Siren Song of The State” by Robert Higgs :https://mises.org/library/siren-song-state

    Regards, onebornfree

  48. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:

    How much of jewish mentality and negative characteristics come from a general Mediterranean background? Are Greeks and Syrians for example also similar to jews when it comes to money-grubbing, dishonesty, tribalism etc.? I know the ancient Phoenicians were very mercantile people and they were the first maritime traders. Anybody have much experience with non-jewish Mediterranean peoples?

  49. Mulegino1 says:

    This is not Hitler’s revenge, it is Hitler’s vindication.

    The big losers of the Second World War were not Germany and Japan but all the Europeans of Christian provenance- along with Japan, the Chinese and the European colonial empires and most of all the British Empire.

    All of the economical exploitative aspects of the colonial empires were retained, but without their beneficial aspects, such as responsible colonial administration and the preservation of order. That has led to a disaster of apocalyptic proportions in the colonial regions of the world, which is now flooding Europe with its consequences. Such a fate would have been unthinkable had the Axis powers prevailed.

    • Replies: @Peter Grafström
  50. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Brawny black studs and intense Muslims sounds like your own fetishes coming through there to be honest.

  51. So, after a whole book about the problems of deconstructionism, open borders, multiculturalism, and so much more, we’re just left with vague hopes of inter-racial unity based on shared shame over America’s historic prejudice.

    Ruling Class Removal must be the motivating spirit of the White Core American Patriots.

    We need the spirit of General George Washington and General Andrew Jackson to dislodge from power the treasonously evil JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    Young White Core Americans must fight to bring back patriotism and respect for the English Protestants and British Protestants and European Christians who colonized, settled and then founded the United States of America.

    Young White Core America Warriors Will Win When When They Begin To Fight!

    The anti-White animosity that animates the media and academia and corporations and government is to prevent young White Core Americans from dislodging the evil and treasonous JEW/WASP ruling class from power.

    Once the battle lines are clearly drawn, and the young White Core American Warriors begin to bang it out bravely against the treasonous JEW/WASP ruling class, it will be a certain short-sharp-shock victory for the patriotic forces of truth in WHITE CORE AMERICA.

    Young White Core Americans must repudiate all government debt immediately and they must make it easy to discharge all private debt. The rancid and evil donor-controlled Republican Party has made it harder to discharge and extinguish debt. The rancid Republican Party only advances the interests of money-grubbers and globalizer plutocrats and shyster rodents.

    Young White Core Americans must press the central banker shyster issue hard like Old Hickory Andrew Jackson did.

    Call for the federal funds rate to be raised to 20 percent to implode the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate. The monetary extremism run by the rancid Federal Reserve Bank has been for the benefit of White Americans born before 1965. We are in the end stages of three asset bubbles created by the Fed and this current asset bubble is the biggest by far.

    Young White Core Americans must call for the immediate removal of the current controllers and owners of the internet corporations and the corporate propaganda apparatus. Disney/ABC and Viacom/CBS and Comcast/NBC and Fox News and Google/Alphabet and Facebook and Apple and Amazon and the like must be obliterated. White Core America must make like the Virginia Company and go for complete and total control of various businesses to make profits to reward our friends.

    White Core America should get into every business imaginable and the White Core America Militia must gain control of the electronics and command and control of nuclear weapons to enforce its dominance in the business realm.

    Young White Core Americans must financially liquidate White Americans born before 1965 and they must use the powers of the central bank to benefit their own people.

    The Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP) of ten thousand dollars a month for all American citizens with all blood born in the USA before 1924 and the removal of 60 or 70 million foreigners and their spawn — using citizenship revocations and the like — will make housing costs go way down for young White people.

    White Core America is about AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION.

    White Core America Rising!

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
  52. Avery says:
    @KenH

    {…that it was Western nations and peoples that defeated the evil Western nation…..}

    Sorry: it was the (Communist) Red Army that broke the back of the Wehrmacht.
    (80% of Wehrmacht’s losses were in the Eastern Front)
    US & UK and other Western nations fought and fought heroically, but the Lion’s Share goes to Eastern Europe, Slavic peoples: primarily Russians.
    US, of course, defeated Imperial Japan and its very capable Navy pretty much all on its own.

    {Should the Muslim religion and its votaries and followers perish because of the many crimes of the Ottoman empire….}

    No, but the West, or what’s left of it, shouldn’t help Islamists in their ongoing SOP of mass-murders and ethnic cleansing of Christians. Recent example: Syria; a thriving, ancient Christian community in Syria was pretty much erased as a result of US, UK, France, Israel, Saudis, Gulf States et. al. enabling and arming various Takfiri cannibals and the genocidal Muslim Turks in their goal of dismembering/Islamizing Syria.

    • Replies: @refl
    , @KenH
  53. @E_Perez

    Were they intentionally misleading or bashing Montezuma for his revenge too?

  54. Anonymous[233] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    It’s not politically correct to say in right wing circles, but Med types can be very dishonest to deal with. British expats over the years have lost a lot of money buying property in Spain and thinking they can deal with Spaniards with the same level of trust they would deal with British people.

    Whenever I visit a Med country I am always very careful to count my change in shops and restaurants and make sure I’m not being overcharged because you can’t assume the same level of honesty there that would be normal in the UK, Germany, Scandinavia, etc.

    • Replies: @anon
  55. Durruti says:
    @tac

    People are simply slow to learn what goes against their traditional beliefs…Do they dare to simply gauge what is out of their epicenter? Of course not! What if what you’ve been told is nothing but utter lies and distortions to keep you in “your” place? Are you willing to be “plundered” without having a voice in the matter? yes or no?

    Nice thought. Clear. “Are you willing to be “plundered”…?” “without having a voice in the matter?”

    The videos are, interesting, informational, but, misdirectional.

    Hitler was not the answer. I will number the major fallacies of the Hitler was a Great Guy lecture.

    1. In The Night of the Long Knives, Hitler directed a massacre of the opponents of-international Financiers among his Nazis. He did this as payment for his being allowed to lead Germany as Chancellor, (to utter ruin).

    2. What right did the German Imperialists have to Czechoslovakia?

    3. After conquering France, Hitler’s Government Annexed Half-of-France (act of Liberation?).

    4. Hitler’s Germany annexed Belgium, Holland, Luxemburg, the Baltic states, & Polish lands.

    5. H’s Germany occupied Yugoslavia & Greece.

    6. H’s Germany supported Imperialist Italy’s occupation of Ethiopia (excuses Mr. Tac?)..

    7. The Nazis promised the Zionists – Palestine, (just as did the British).

    8. German Imperialists committed huge crimes against the peoples of Russia.

    We all have our favorite beverage. I respect your feelings & acknowledge our differences.

    My beverage is a Democratic Republic (the destruction -of Americas’- is briefly displayed in your 2nd video).

    My Anarchists support the Restoration of our American Republic, which was destroyed in a hail of bullets, on November 22, 1963, along with our last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy. It was the best government we had, far superior to being puppets of the Rothschild Zionist Oligarchs.

    For economy, the basic points expressed so often by DESERT FOX & others, must be examined.

    The Democratic Republic (all Republics contain some Democracy), is the best system yet devised. I prefer that to any reliance on a ‘Great Leader.’

    We lead with our minds and hearts, not with our knees.

    God Bless America!

    Durruti alias Dr. Peter J. Antonsen

  56. OK.

    Kirkpatrick’s article [1] is pretty much unique. I hadn’t seen a coherent expression of the body of thought he describes, nor had I seen it described in such explicit form by such high authority people. The thought has simply been implicit in media propaganda, and implied by secondary sources.

    I have, however, discussed it, and classified it as “the West was stunned by the two World Wars and the Cold War, which could have ended with even greater destruction than WW II within any 15-minute interval from about 1955 to about 1991. The West found that it had replaced imminent salvation from God with imminent destruction from its own nuclear weapons, and became to take any action lest it again worsen the human condition.” (that’s a paraphrase). While the West is paralyzed, other groups (such as the Jewish establishment and the Black establishment and now the Hispanic and Islamic establishments) have pursued their own interests with considerable success, since they faced no opposition. The West’s battle cry became “We Surrender! Please forgive us!”.

    Now, as to what will replace this. It’s obvious, since it’s happening now. The West has, yet again, become incapable off managing its affairs. This has happened several times in the history of the West: Fall of the High Middle Ages, the 30 Years’ War, the Hundred Years War, the French Revolution to name just some. What has always happened before is that the West has a bloody and protracted war, which ends with the West doing what was unthinkable before the war, and with a brand new social structure that (whatever else it can do) can most certainly hold together during a war, and which has considerable legitimacy simply because everybody who wanted to fight died during the preceding war. Here, Reno’s concept of “home” is decisive — the wars are fought to save “home” and they are fought because “home” (in only in the sense of some place somewhere to go if the combatant survives the combat) is all that’s left for the combatants. Good call by Reno, but he idea of saving what we have now — nope. Burn it down to the bricks and then restart, the classic cure for a failed social system.

    This time, the war will be worldwide but between regional powers, and may involve local use of nuclear weapons. The world standard of living will drop radically as global trade becomes impossible. There may be a retrogression in the Western scientific and technological achievements, and the current destruction of both universities and the idea of objective reality would be the forerunners.

    As for Kirkpatrick’s attempt to predict the new ideals, to date nobody prior to a reorganization / singularity such as that I describe above has been able to do that. K probably can’t either. It is possible to say that the new ideals will be counter to anything the West now believes, but that doesn’t help much. K’s statement that “I personally would rather let these ‘dark gods’ consume this evil order.” suggest he will get his wish. K also wants to go home, and realizes that under the current order he _has_ no home safe from the “dark gods”.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] http://www.unz.com/article/hitlers-revenge-the-return-of-the-strong-gods-and-the-resurrection-of-the-west/#respond

  57. @Mark Raven

    Never before has its population been replaced wholesale by the most primitive people on earth. Soon what you have is no longer “The West”.

    These populations exist as an epiphenomenon of Western politics. They depend for their income on the stability of urban government. Absent that they are in trouble.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Agree: Hail
  58. nsa says:
    @Old_One_Number_2

    “In baseball, there are now fewer blacks….”
    More accurately, in baseball the unruly black is being replaced by the docile brown…..reflecting the ongoing demographic change being promoted by the elites. By 2030 whites will be a minority and the country will begin to resemble Brazil.

  59. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I think the main difference is jews are intelligent, whereas other Mediterraneans not so much. But they are all fundamentally shyster peoples lol.

  60. @KenH

    Ken H has a very good point: Counterarguments are easy to come up with if you want to come up with one, and then all one has to say is “To Hell with this kind of argument, I’m not listening anymore [2]” and the whole propaganda line of “You’ve wronged somebody, so you die” becomes ineffective on the intended victim, who is no longer paralyzed and can take effective offensive and defensive action.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] http://www.unz.com/article/hitlers-revenge-the-return-of-the-strong-gods-and-the-resurrection-of-the-west/#comment-3535181

    2] “Ain’t no use in calling out my name, girl,
    I can’t hear you anymore.”
    Robert Zimmerman

  61. Bert says:
    @jhan

    Any paganism that could actually save civilization would have to publicly oppose multiculturalism, not “be updated to be fit for survival in multi-cultural settings.” If it weren’t a warrior religion, then it could not survive or accomplish salvation of the West. It would need genetic confirmation of western European ancestry as a prerequisite for membership.

    As for traditions and customs, those should be based on celebrating the knowledge and art created by the West, not on some hokey imitation of pre-literate, fur-clad ancestors. Cultivation of health, fitness and martial skills would be an appropriate custom.

    But your points are well taken and there is no more important question than a detailed consideration of what a modern paganism, based on Western European history and achievements, could be.

    • Replies: @jhan
  62. Harbinger says:

    “The West has resurrected before. Perhaps, if enough people study Reno’s observations and think, act, and pray accordingly, it can resurrect again.”

    This is what truly frustrates me about people like James Kirkpatrick when they state truly ignorant statements as the above.
    He mentions:
    Others have identified the “Frankfurt School” as the root of the West’s deconstruction, but Reno’s critique is even more systematic and philosophically grounded. One after the other, everything that is solid in the Western tradition was undermined, weakened, and ultimately pummeled into slime, a spirit of entropy we see in our politics, universities, and even our hideously ugly modern architecture.”
    He cannot see that the Frankfurt School DELIBERATELY targeted western culture, tradition, family, politics, universities, architecture (and art). And the Frankfurt school was one of the many tentacles, of international Jewry, that revolutionised (for the worst) every aspect of western society.

    However, back to the first quote on the resurrection of the west.
    How precisely does he expect this to be done?
    Again, I’ll go back to the Frankfurt School. They knew, that in order to completely destroy a civilisation, all you had to do was take control of the younger generations. Since the end of WW2, successive generations have been indoctrinated, in schools and universities to hate their culture, their history, their ancestry, their nation, their civilisation and their race. Yes, in the past the west was resurrected, but there was no gap between generations, that is to state: there was no stopping of the continuation of culture and traditions. Their countries were also NOT being flooded by immigrants. They weren’t off fighting foreign wars for Jewish bankers. We are living in a completely different time.

    As I mentioned in a previous reply on Hitler and the Third Reich, on the recent ‘“Big Mother”: the Decline of Men and . . . Truth-telling’ article, Hitler rose to power because regardless of the utter demolition of the Weimar Republic, the German people were united. Hitler, instantly, won the support of the overwhelming majority who could clearly see what the problems were.
    Could you imagine if someone like Hitler started on the election campaign here in the UK, the US or anywhere else in the Anglosphere? It wouldn’t just be the case of the Jewish controlled msm utterly demonising him, but a large percentage of the ‘white’ (let alone most if not all of the non white) population would hound and attack him every step of the way. The police would step back, as the do with ANTIFA and would be doing their best to monitor everything he stated so they could arrest him under some public order act and hate speech legislation.

    If our people were united then yes, we easily could rise again, but we’re not, far, far from it. Here in the UK it was the Jews who were behind the Race Acts of the ’60’s. These acts, in effect, hamstringed any indigenous fightback to what would become the mass migration of non Europeans into their lands and attaining positions of power and influence with which to enforce their culture and anti European ways upon Europeans. Thatcher, later on with the miner’s strike, militarised the police and later (I’m not quite sure under what government, possibly Blair in ’97) started bringing more non whites into the force as well as the LGBT into prominent positions. This was essentially when the police became a left wing gang of government thugs.

    The west is not going to rise. It will continue its downward spiral into hell and not to far away from now, the moronic left will soon realise how badly wrong they were and how incredibly right the right were when they’re a minority in their own land and the politicians (whom many then will be non white and those who are white will be Jews) are instituting anti white legislation, stopping whites from owning property, businesses and restricted to menial labouring jobs, continually under the kosh of non whites, who will assault them regularly, with the police turning a blind eye.
    They may ‘try’ to rise up but it will be a lesson in futility. Hopelessly outnumbered with immigrants piling in from other lands to attack them, the police and armed forces also their enemy, any revolution will be quickly dispersed.
    They’ve already lost their nations. The minute they granted non Europeans citizenship, to be [insert nationality] like them, was the day their nation stopped being a nation.

    You have lost your younger generations. The baby boomer generation are directly responsible for the implementation of cultural Marxism upon their nations. You cannot come back from this. Your younger generations are, believe it or not, your enemy along with the non indigenous who are growing, exponentially, within your lands. They worship at the alter of hate speech, political correctness, anti racism, multiculturalism and multiracial societies, feminism and LGBTQP. And the next generation will be even more fanatical, to protect it.

    I don’t think people fully understand the horrific damage that Jewish communism has done to the west. WE ARE LIVING UNDER COMMUNISM TODAY!!! And as Yuri Bezmenov, the Russian dissident who came to warn the west towards the end of the 20th century, has stated, in many of his talks, the useful idiots, those who brought about the installation of communism in their nations, will be the first to go when full blown communism is installed.

    You need to put away your stupid optimistic views thinking that there’s going to be a saviour and everything will work out in the future. You need to read society and understand that your younger generations are NOT your people who have a love for their culture, traditions, ancestry, nation, civilisation and race. Younger women (and men) will happily promote miscegenation and in doing so fulfill the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan, itself Jewish created.

    You’re just going to have to face facts.
    For those who continue thinking that you can change the status quo will only end up becoming unhappier as everyone and everything will be against you. You will also most likely face trouble with the police and either fines and/or jail time.
    In an interview with Red Ice TV (I would have provided the link, but YouTube terminated Red Ice’s account recently for hate speech) Nick Griffin speaks of the dire situation in the UK and states, correctly, that it’s a lost cause. He says that nationalists should strongly consider moving to Eastern European countries to prop up the white populations who are actively fighting against globalism, unlike their own who are embracing it. There are vast amounts of land in Russia for people to start over. Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania etc are not swallowing the globalist crap being foisted upon the rest of the west.

    Again, I’m a realist, what an optimist calls a pessimist and there is absolutely nothing you will do to stop the inevitable. I state ‘will’ and not can’t because we can stop this in a month. It would involve a hell of a lot of civil unrest, seizing the armed forces, forcing a military coup and the overthrow of the government. Once a nationalist government has been installed, serious draconian measures would be implemented such as:

    1. Instant arrest of Rothschild and seizure of all assets.
    2. Immediate arrest of all politicians, alive, subsequently imprisoned, pending trial for treason.
    3. Laws being created instantly, like in Thailand, that no non indigenous can buy land, own businesses and heavy restrictions on work.
    4. All current employers would cease to employ foreign nationals with businesses owned by them seized. Foreign international’s businesses would be sold at buying cost and they and their families repatriated to their ancestral lands.
    5. All foreign internationals would only be allowed in on restricted holiday visas.
    6. Instant arrest of all communist organisations and Jewish ngo’s behind globalism, multiculturalism, multiracialism etc.

    And there are more, but none of the above would ever be implemented, hence why I state ‘will’ instead of ‘can’.

    People need to wake up to reality. Most of you are living in cloud cuckoo land, waiting for the ’11th hour’ and a saviour. It isn’t going to happen. My advice is to start thinking about finding some place on this earth, you can live out your days in relative happiness, for if you stay in the west, you will understand persecution as you become a second class citizen in your own lands, with no one speaking up for you in any of the establishments.
    You were warned, over the last two thousand years, who your enemy was. You haven’t heeded those warnings and idiotically allowed your enemy to live amongst you, attain positions of power and influence and protected them from harm. You have sewn the wind and you most certainly will reap the whirlwind. Stupid is what stupid does and it sums up those fools who live in the western civilisation.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Bookish1
  63. Hail says: • Website
    @E_Perez

    You’re right.

    Though the line is Brimelow’s, not Kirkpatrick’s

    VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow was criticized for calling current immigration policy “Hitler’s revenge” in his 1995 book Alien Nation.

    A far more accurate label than this tabloid-headline-esque line “Hitler’s revenge” would be “Blowback,” a term popularized by left-wing academic Chalmers Johnson in a 2000 book that became a hit in Sept. 2001 and after.

    ‘Blowback’ is an elastic concept and can have many manifestations, but it always deals with a foreign policy that comes back to haunt us in some form. The most obvious case: After the arming of wild bands of mujahideen to attack the USSR, these same groups, some years later, attack America. Blowback. Arguably a variety of foreign policy mistake and/or overreach.

    In a thread at Steve Sailer’s blog this week, I proposed the SPLC’s Heidi Beirich as one little manifestation of ‘blowback’ to 1940s US policy towards Germany — the total-occupation-and-indoctrination model.

    Heidi’s biography provides clues as to the political-psychological origins of her obsession with suppressing White right-wingers and nationalists: Her German-born mother was subject to intense de-Nazification indoctrination as a girl in the late 1940s. If her mother had been an American who never left the metaphorical (or real) farm growing up, rather than a young German girl subject to intense psychological conditioning in the late 1940s, I’m thinking Heidi never would’ve gone on quite the path she did and become a US political commissar…

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  64. Bert says:
    @anon

    No ethnic group is as honest as the Germanics, broadly defined. Chronic cheating is not just Mediterranean. It is the standard anywhere outside of northern Europe. I cite my personal experience during a long life.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager, Bookish1
    • Replies: @Druid
    , @Bookish1
    , @S
  65. Bookish1 [AKA "rochester"] says:

    forget christianity. Its a dead religion in its last days and trying to revive it is only a waste of time.

    As far as the holocaust bearing down on us every time we try to raise our heads in defiance of the order of mass replacement all we have to do is know the truth of that fable in a few short facts:
    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t553062/

  66. Agent76 says:

    Jul 28, 2019 “United States” to Imperial America: Our Hidden Empire

    The global expanse of US military bases is well-known; but it’s actual territorial empire is largely hidden. The true map of America is not taught in our schools.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  67. Bookish1 [AKA "rochester"] says:
    @anon

    Yes they are as good but Jews are better at it. And most important Jews have the chosen idea of controlling all of mankind through their religion.

  68. refl says:
    @KenH

    Some even think, he says, that “after Auschwitz, the West does not deserve to s,” and mass migration will be a “blessed deliverance from a cursed inheritance.”

    You have to read that differently: Auschwitz is the meme for the ultimate lie, that the overlords of modernity have forced down the throats of our decent peoples. And perversely I am looking forward to the take over by people who are immune to this rubish. It won’t be pretty, but what do you expect to happen, when the truth sinks in, that we have all been played?

  69. @E_Perez

    Thank you, E_Perez ! Someone who understands – not easy to find here.

    Kirkpatrick doesn’t realize how he reveals his own inadequacy in this line: “Still, Reno’s book is overall so impressive I’m willing to entertain that he may speak from a deeper wisdom than I do.” He sure in hell does, James.

  70. For the Groyper Nationalists

    Donald Trump is enthusiastically importing the Hindu Democratic Party Voting Bloc fr0m India…LEGALLY….

    And Donald Trump is doing this because he HATES NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS MALES….HE HATES YOU…

    Charlie Kirk=very good friend of the homosexuals=very good friend of the HOMOSEXUAL PEDERASTS…….Charlie Kirk……….HOMOSEXUAL PEDERASTS………THINK ABOUT IT….

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  71. Harbinger says:
    @Agent76

    Daniel Immerwahr, the author of the book discussed in the video and interviewed by Abbi Martin is a Jew and the video, as expected, devolves into attacking whites and ‘white supremacy’. Abbi Martin is a Jew owned asset.

  72. @Bookish1

    American Christianity is most definitely dead….Russian Orthodox Christianity very much alive……

    Deep South Evangelical Christianity=ROLL TIDE NEGRO TYRONE!!!=HOMOSEXUAL RELIGION…..

  73. refl says:
    @Wally

    So many do indeed fantasize that “after Auschwitz, the West does not deserve to endure”, but as has been rather easily demonstrated at this site and many others, the ridiculous lies about Auschwitz do not stand up to science & rational thought.

    The dying West will realize the lie, but the poison has long since had its effect.

    I overheard a middle eastern Immigrant delivery man discussing loudly with his ethnically German coworker: Hitler was bad, okay, but… (and then the littany of what he knew and what the German guy had never heard of).
    I recall more of these experiences. This is the way it will go. It will be rough, but, hey, the era of the World Wars was rough, regardless of guilt. The events to come by necessity will be of the same scale or bigger.

  74. @Priss Factor

    Jews with superior IQ took over the US and control Europe as its vassal. Also, Jews come up with ideas that come to shape new ‘Western Values’. Jews took over the white mind.

    High IQs are only true of Ashkenazis who have some European ancestry. Even this comes with a health premium (see below) because of breeding patterns.

    Bipolar I disorder and schizophrenia: a 440-single-nucleotide polymorphism screen of 64 candidate genes among Ashkenazi Jewish case-parent trios
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16380905/

    The major defect in Ashkenazi Jews with Tay-Sachs disease is an insertion in the gene for the alpha-chain of beta-hexosaminidase
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2848800/

  75. @Anonymous

    Probable hasbara. Like the ones who use VPNs to post interracial porn (a disproportionately Jewish craft) on 4chan and elsewhere.

  76. Donald Trump

    is

    NULLYFYING the vote of his White Male Voting Bloc

    Because Donald Trump is enthusiastically importing Chinese LEGAL IMMIGRANTS….AND HINDU LEGAL IMMIGRANTS….

    And this is an attack on Democracy..

  77. Cyrano says:

    Socialism was a bigger failure than capitalism economically, but as an ideology, capitalism is way worse than socialism.

    You see, it turns out that capitalism is a delicate flower and can only flourish when is in symbiotic relationship with “democracy”. And “democracy” can only function in tandem with capitalism. No other system is allowed to have it.

    Yeah, right, like democracy wasn’t invented in ancient times when capitalism was nowhere in sight. And to make things worse, the delicate flower that capitalism is – it needs constant wars in order to protect its fragile existence.

    And then, in order to broaden its appeal, in the 60’s, the old whore capitalism decided to undergo cosmetic surgery called multiculturalism. Sure enough, with the new facial features, the much rejuvenated capitalism found new admirers among the 3rd world fans. And they can’t even afford to pay for the services of the old whore capitalism.

  78. @Durruti

    Same old, same old. What you’re missing is that you were not a German of the time, you are a non-German today. What does your critique mean to an ethnic German? Zilch, so your opinion is simply that and means nothing compared to the power and authenticity of the man Hitler. Thank God we have films.

    • Replies: @Durruti
    , @Cleburne
  79. refl says:
    @Avery

    No, but the West, or what’s left of it, shouldn’t help Islamists in their ongoing SOP of mass-murders and ethnic cleansing of Christians. Recent example: Syria;

    You got that the wrong way round. It was rather the Islamist mass murderers who in their infinite dumbness helped the western overlords to erase Syria’s multi-religious culture that had lasted for millenia.
    The islamist dimwitts thought that they were restoring their fictious great culture with a little help from their friends.
    I fear that the Nazi project was spawned in a similar way.

    • Replies: @Avery
  80. @Kolya Krassotkin

    He helped tip my parents into leaving the RC Church, then my wife and me. Now even my friend who seriously considered becoming a priest, is talking for the first time ever about leaving.

  81. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m starting to feel like the so-called ancient Hebrews and all the Bible stories are bullshit.
    I believe the people called jews today are descendants of ancient Canaanites and Phoenicians.
    The Phoenicians were mercantile money-worshippers who started maritime trade and the Canaanites were a bunch of degenerate perverts.

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @Bookish1
  82. @DanFromCT

    The problem is the specifics of where it ends

    Where it ends is the same place that Classical European civilization ended: The urban areas become uninhabitable and the urban populations that can live nowhere except the cities must find some other place to live in a world where all the “other places” are occupied and defended.
    A decade ago the idea of US cities becoming uninhabitable would have been impossible to even evaluate. TEOTWAWKI/abandoned cities literature of the time was singularly unconvincing. However, now we can see the process underway.
    This is the basic reason why the “evil institutions” are fighting so hard and so uncompromisingly: they have nowhere to go except what they are.

    Counterinsurgency

  83. Tried reading this a few times but could never get past the super intellectual bullshit. It’s like trying to listen to Jordan Peterson when he’s lecturing in his field of ‘expertise’. He’s great when he’s championing free speech but when he’s lecturing on psychology, it’s just mindless babble delivered with the sincerity of your local fraud preacher.

    The people that can write this stuff and the people that think it’s worth something are part of the problem, not the solution. Psychiatry, Psychology, Sociology, and the rest of the basket weaving professions need to just disappear as they can’t prove anything past common sense and inject nonsense into the public consciousness.

    • Replies: @haha
  84. @E_Perez

    I agree completely about the article’s nonsensical and misleading title.

    And, in fact, with every other sentence of your comment.

  85. @Charles Pewitt

    We need the spirit of General George Washington and General Andrew Jackson to dislodge from power the treasonously evil JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    You are precisely half right.

    George Washington was a monist / deist / archon of the Ruling Class.

    Dogmatic materialism is unfortunately the hollow foundation of the American state. Islam (which might be a goof-religion invented by a monist secret service to destabilize a Zorastrian state) is very likely to outlast the United States of America.

    A devil is not a requirement. Belief in the power of evil is not a requirement. Some sort of dualist ideology is going to have be hacked together here pretty quick.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    , @Druid
  86. @J

    And yet, Socrates, in his own defense, made plain that e.g. the idea that the Sun, Helios, was a mere glowing rock was not his idea but rather one that could be found in any number of ‘pamphlets’ available, for sale in the Stoa for a modest fee.

    And further, in the Symposium, Alcibiades goes to great lengths to make his audience know that Socrates was uninterested in gay sex even when it was literally in his lap, i.e. when he shared a foxhole with Alcibiades who was doing his best to arouse Socrates’ interest.

    And finally, Socrates repeatedly denied that he denied the Gods of the State. What he objected to was their depiction in fairy tales and children’s stories as lustful, full of wrath and jealousy, or as being motivated by revenge and envy.

    So it could be argued then that it was Socrates who upheld the power of the State since the Gods or God he proposed was one/s truly worthy of citizens’ adoration and respect and that having made the ground ripe for good seed, as it were, the citizen would be one who would recognize and submit to the power of a Just State, seeing in the Just State a living instance of a Just Divinity.

    So Athens needed to put Socrates to the death not because he laughed at their childish gods, but because he pointed out to them that just as they had fallen into worshiping less than worthy gods, in just such a manner and to the exact same degree, their State departed from the Ideal of Justice. The two mirrored each other. The lustful, revengeful Gods were a true reflection of the ruling class of Athens.

    So in refusing to worship their imperfect Gods, Socrates implicated the Athenian oligarchy for the crime of substituting false gods for the real ones. This is the exact crime for which he was on trial. Socrates knew that in their charging him that they were–whether they were aware of it or not–acknowledging that he was justified in accusing them of exactly what he was being charged with.

    Socrates’ strength lay in cleaving to the line through all this. His accusers, on the other hand, were unable to maintain a clear picture of the ins and outs of what was happening. Plato, the Dramatist of the Life of Reason as John Herman Randall called him, shows us this in Socrates’ interrogation of them, in which they stumble over their own arguments and are mentally short-circuited. They can’t keep anything straight–not even their own motives. And so, like most humans (who aren’t gifted with the ability to maintain a clear recall of the sequence of mental/emotional states which produced the present moment) they simply abandoned Reason and ran with their anger, envy and spite. They acted the Fool.

    But that didn’t bother them. They had Power and meant to silence this guy who had tricked them into entering this hall of mirrors which made them look like distorted monsters. They didn’t like what they saw and again, like most people, would not change themselves but would rather eliminate that which had caused them appear in such a bad light.

  87. Cyrano says:

    The Germans are easily mesmerizable people. If they could fall for the “charms” of Hitler, how much of a charisma do you really need to impress them?

    If Hitler hated the Jews so much, why did he accepted to be a leader of party that called itself “National-Socialist”, when socialism is supposedly Jewish invention and is all evil? Why didn’t he rename the party – National-Capitalism, or National-Krautism or something?

    I think that Germany’s goose was cooked when as a result of their Nazi past they had to “prove” to their new masters that they are no longer racist by importing half of the 3rd world. They didn’t need to prove anything to anybody. Their country wasn’t founded on immigration, unlike that of their masters which not only was founded on immigration, it was founded on unwilling immigration. Why would anybody need to prove anything to such a country? If they feel the need to prove something, they should keep it to themselves, not force others to prove anything.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @Eric Novak
  88. @Hail

    “Blowback,” a term popularized by left-wing academic Chalmers Johnson in a 2000 book that became a hit in Sept. 2001 and after

    Complete rubbish.

    “Blowback” came straight from the CIA situation-rooms in the 1970’s and 1980’s, created and adopted by a set of younger, better-educated, more intelligent and more far-sighted (but still ignored) policy wonks, in the context of disastrously-stupid, short-sighted and ultimately entirely counter-productive (ie. destructive) American foreign policy corruption in Central America, under the war-criminals and cretins Nixon, Ford, Carter and Reagan.

    • Replies: @Hail
  89. If you vote for Donald Trump on Nov 7 2020…

    You consenting to be voted into a White Racial Foreigner-White Racial Minority…..within the borders of America by…….Chinese “Americans”….Hindu “Americans”….Sihk “Americans”……Korean “Americans”…..Pakistani “Americans”….and…Kurdish “Americans” in Idaho(Chobani Muslim Gang Rape Yogurt)….

    THINK ABOUT IT…..

  90. peterAUS says:
    @Harbinger

    The west is not going to rise. It will continue its downward spiral into hell and not to far away from now, the moronic left will soon realise how badly wrong they were and how incredibly right the right were when they’re a minority in their own land and the politicians (whom many then will be non white and those who are white will be Jews) are instituting anti white legislation, stopping whites from owning property, businesses and restricted to menial labouring jobs, continually under the kosh of non whites, who will assault them regularly, with the police turning a blind eye.

    Most likely.
    Still, it will be interesting to see what happens if, or when for optimists, the upper-middle-class whites realize the truth. They are the backbone of the modern state.
    The truth is simple: “No matter how much power and wealth you give away it will never…NEVER…be enough. You shall always..always…be the target. More you lose, more they’ll demand. And, sooner or later you’ll lose control of that process. And when you lose the control, which is simply a matter of time, you’ll lose everything. Then they’ll really come for you.”

    They may ‘try’ to rise up but it will be a lesson in futility. Hopelessly outnumbered with immigrants piling in from other lands to attack them, the police and armed forces also their enemy, any revolution will be quickly dispersed.

    Not really.
    They are the police and military. Not only that; they are the state, from waste disposal to security services, academia….the backbone of the state power.

    At the moment they keep giving because they still have hope it will, somehow, make all this good.
    My take…within next 10, even 5 years perhaps, they’ll realize it won’t, can’t work.

    So, we’ll see.

    And, unfortunately, it’s not just Jews. I’d recommend taking a look at:
    Paul Edward Gottfried – After Liberalism_ Mass Democracy in the Managerial State.-Princeton University Press (1999)
    and
    Paul Gottfried – Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt_ Towards a Secular Theocracy-University of Missouri Press (2002)
    “Our” own side has a lot to answer for, too. My take, anyway.

    That’s for the “enemy” and “terrain/time” elements. Now…hehe…all “we” need to start thinkingn about is the “mission”. And the “intent”, of course. And then, oh my, make a plan.
    Complicated.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  91. The following two statements c0ntradict each other:

    1)I am voting for Donald Trump……

    2)I don’t want to be voted into a White Racial Foreigner-White Racial Minority by the Democratic Party Voting Bloc……

  92. @Anonymous

    You’re living in denial. All such is coming true in Europe.

    Subway in Western Europe vs Subway in Poland




    Of course, this is blackness in America. Blacks act thus but they are lionized even by ‘conservatives’ as the holy race.

  93. Catholic Church is gay. The old Protestant churches went hippy back in the sixties. The Pentecost ones aren’t really Christian, but rather Jewish worshippers. Orthodox denominations seems to be the last Christians standing, and not particularly prevalent in the West. Seems like survival instincts and hatred of the other will be needed to save to save Western man, not the current Christian landscape. Sad it’s come to that.

  94. @Wally

    The entire post-war moral order embarks upon the road to collapse if the Holocaust is disproven.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  95. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    How could white Jesus be born in a non-white country? Would Jesus’ new mother conceive the same child or a different child who maybe believes in…nothing, or become a Muslim or something and never become the Jesus, the savior of the bible.
    Why would this happen, because you destroyed the country and changed the people. I think Christians can forget about saviors.
    I new the ending of the book would turn out the way it did, I was just waiting for the author of the column to say what the solution was. What a laugh.

  96. Druid says:
    @anon

    Of course it’s bullshit. The worst thing that happened to Islam is the incorporation of the se jewish lies.

  97. @Morton's toes

    George Washington was a monist / deist / archon of the Ruling Class.

    Dogmatic materialism is unfortunately the hollow foundation of the American state. Islam (which might be a goof-religion invented by a monist secret service to destabilize a Zorastrian state) is very likely to outlast the United States of America.

    The Virginia Company Colony was all about the loot and so were the bug-eyed bullshit artist East Anglians blown off course and made a landing in what they would call Massachusetts Bay. The original Company was Virginia Company, not those cunts, idiots and assholes at the CIA.

    Now the JEW/WASP ruling class uses its control of the globalized Federal Reserve Bank to retain its power and money-grubbing ability.

    White Core America will use monetary policy to reward the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

    The geezer boy globalizer scum in the treasonous DEEP STATE will be removed from power and the treasonous JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire will be removed from power.

    God wants young White Core American Warriors to get ten thousand dollars a month from the Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP). The privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank must be nationalized, and those plutocrats who have previously benefited from the Fed’s ability to conjure up currency out of thin air must be financially liquidated and then forcibly exiled to sub-Saharan Africa.

    God wants the scum who controls Comcast/NBC and Disney/ABC and Viacom/CBS and all the other internet and corporate media outlets to be removed from power.

    God might say its blasphemous to say what he wants.

    God says he don’t want the US military to be used as muscle to fight wars on behalf of the millstone client state called Israel.

    The CIA is treasonous evil and it must be abolished. The FBI and CIA are both treasonous anti-American jobs programs for scumbag treasonites.

    None But Americans On Guard Tonight! — George Washington

    John E McLaughlin is a treasonous CIA rat who pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and endless overseas war.

    John Brennan and John McClaughlin are treasonous rat scum who shouldn’t be allowed to be security guards at Fordham University, but, because they are so rancid and treasonous they fit in just fine with the evil disgusting rats in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    I love Irish people, I have some Southern Irish blood, but Leprechauns are treasonous rat scum!

    This CIA scumbag McLaughlin is a government worker treasonous rat:

  98. Druid says:
    @Morton's toes

    You obviously know nothing about Islam. Read the quran then comment about it

  99. renfro says:

    The West had nothing to do with Auschwitz or the so called holocaust.

    Please write that on your blackboard 100 times.

    We have in the tribe a group that has actively despised gentiles, Christians Muslims, Catholics, everyone on earth…..and yet they expected….make that ‘demanded’ ..that the world ‘save them’.
    That the world divert its war fighting resources and risk and lose as many non Jewish lives as needed just to save the Jews.

    Why should gentiles have risked their lives to save Jews instead of saving gentile nations whose people were being bombed and killed?
    Why should the Pope have risked Catholic lives to save Jews instead of protecting Catholics?

    Tell me why anyone should help or protect the Jews when the Jews wouldn’t and never have protected or helped non Jews?
    And why , after helping them, they show nothing but ingratitude, insults to America and Europe, betrayal and even more hatred of non Jews….should we have anything for them but the utmost disgust and revulsion.

    And why should anyone even hesitate to speak this truth? Yes the gentile and others are far superior morally and better people than the Jews but its past time to wash our hands of the Israel tribe and let whatever happens to them be up to them.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  100. Bookish1 says:
    @Harbinger

    Good pessimistic rant. If I was on the other side I would be happy. But I am not . You forgot one thing. If the bottom drops out of the international finance system everything changes. When people’s tummys are hungry they change fast and in unexpected ways. Those young people that you talked about are going to change their views fast when they see ther mommy and poppy hungry along with their siblings and everyone else they know. People will realize sooner or later that the only people that can get things together and get food on the table will be white america. The original and true americans.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  101. Bookish1 says:
    @Bert

    That is one of our problems. We have to get over that foolish altruism and kick some ass.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  102. @Durruti

    My Anarchists support the Restoration of our American Republic, which was destroyed in a hail of bullets, on November 22, 1963, along with our last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy. It was the best government we had, far superior to being puppets of the Rothschild Zionist Oligarchs.

    Bravo. Dear God, let the world hear.

    This paragraph reduced me quickly to tears of righteous rage, ever-present grief – and hot, brimming, graphic, murderous hatred for those sub-human scum who have done this to us. I suspect tears are commonplace these days for many millions of despairing, hopeless peoples across the West, who still remember the glittering promises of their childhoods – but see the worst possible future in their nightmares every night. I’m just a very ordinary, ageing, well-educated derelict Brit, who as a hobby and due to a childhood fascination has spent the past 15 or so years researching Kennedy’s murder. I have gone as far down the rabbit-hole of impossibilities, endless lies, ruthless murders, cover-ups, conflicting testimonies and disappeared evidence as any man is able to go whilst still retaining a semblance of sanity. All I know now is that what happened on that day was the long-planned beginning of the end of the White West, and certainly of democracy, freedom, happiness and peace. I weep for my own once-Great Britain every bit as much as I weep for the end of America, as at this time we are headed helplessly on the same Down-train.

    There are now no options left. We must FIGHT.

    And if we die, we will at least die on our feet… and not on our knees.

    God Damn them all to hell.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  103. Harbinger says:
    @peterAUS

    “Most likely.
    Still, it will be interesting to see what happens if, or when for optimists, the upper-middle-class whites realize the truth. They are the backbone of the modern state….”

    Hmm….
    I’ll have to disagree there.
    Take the UK for example. I lived in London, near enough around 18 years or so in my early life. A classic example of London’s middle class was packing up their bags in the 4×4, driving down to the southwest of England (Dorset, Devon, Somerset, Cornwall), essentially to predominantly white areas, putting their children into predominantly white schools and STILL supporters of multiculturalism and multiracial society, even though they are clearly voting with their feet. To them, unlike the lower class, they just relocate. Sure, when the time comes that they can’t relocate, then it may be a problem for them, but they know the problem and they advocate it.

    “Not really.
    They are the police and military. Not only that; they are the state, from waste disposal to security services, academia….the backbone of the state power.

    At the moment they keep giving because they still have hope it will, somehow, make all this good.
    My take…within next 10, even 5 years perhaps, they’ll realize it won’t, can’t work.”

    The police here, in the UK, have homosexuals in top positions, recruiting heavily from the minorities and LGBTQP community and they’ve moved from right to left wing. We can forget about the police. They are already our enemy. They have sat back and done nothing, while Muslims raped 30% of the female population of Rotherham. This has played out all over the UK. And we are told for fear of being called ‘racists’? If you’re allowing your people, to be raped for whatever reason, you are the enemy full stop.
    As for the armed forces, I don’t know. They’re just full of heavily brainwashed youth, who have moved from ‘Call of Duty’ on the PC to real life. It’s one big adventure. They’re told who to kill and the follow orders. If they had any common sense they wouldn’t be where they are, being turned into mindless automatons, invading foreign lands and killing because someone tells you to, who just happen to be politicians.

    “And, unfortunately, it’s not just Jews. I’d recommend taking a look at:
    Paul Edward Gottfried – After Liberalism_ Mass Democracy in the Managerial State.-Princeton University Press (1999)
    and
    Paul Gottfried – Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt_ Towards a Secular Theocracy-University of Missouri Press (2002)”

    I won’t disagree that Europeans have a hell of a lot of blame, lying at their feet, but it was the Jew who came in and wrecked western culture. Western civilisation pre 1960 and post 1960 are completely different to one another. By this time, Cultural Marxism had already taken hold and the baby boomer generation were promoting self loathing, white guilt, multiculturalism, multiracialism, while they all got high on drugs and alcohol, wearing flowers in their hair, listening to the Beatles, Joni Mitchell, Crosby Stills & Nash, Bob Dylan and Jimi Hendrix, amongst countless others.

    Peter, had the Edict of Expulsion, still been in force, with no English civil war and certainly no Rothschilds and Jews in the west, you and I wouldn’t be having this conversation. The west would not be in the mess it’s in today and the world a far better place. The people responsible for the downfall are the Jews, although self hating white people certainly help them carry the can.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  104. He argues that the “culture of freedom” encouraged by free market intellectuals like Hayek or Milton Friedman “paradoxically encourages the careful and minute management of culture” to prevent the emergence of “non-market organizations” based on faith or identity. If you doubt this, visit Left Twitter for five minutes.

    It’s all about the ruling class. You’re always gonna have a ruling class.

    The current JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is evil and it must be removed from power.

    White Core America is the ruling class in waiting that will advance the interests of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States of America. White Core America will advance the interests of Whites as Whites — Explicit White Identity Politics.

    The Republican Party is the evil puppet political party of the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    The Republican Party Must Be Destroyed!

    Jew Billionaire Casino Mogul Shelly Adelson Owns The Rancid Republican Party!

    Tweet from 2015:

  105. Robjil says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Nine eleven is the big one. It was a Israel first deed. This deed proves beyond doubt that Israel firsters are not saints.

    The big 6 was shown to be not so bad by Vicky Nuland. She, Jewish American, used Neo-Nazism to take over Ukraine for Zion US interests. She was not “worried” about using these thugs to take over Ukraine. She knew that they were a joke. The Big 6 was not so big for her or so real for her and her team. This is all out in front of us. Why should anyone worship the big 6 if the big Top Jews do not do so?

    Ukraine is now a Zion US overseas territory. It is being used as Zion US spiderweb to catch anyone who the Zion USers want to rough up. Trump even though he pleases the Zion USers to no end, still it was not good enough. Impeachment games is an attempt to train him to follow orders of the Zion US rulers.

    • Replies: @Wally
  106. peterAUS says:
    @Harbinger

    ….when the time comes that they can’t relocate…

    Is The Time. Or just a bit before it. When they see that coming in, say, a year or so.

    ….We can forget about the police…..

    You mean security apparatus including those two with “M” and the one with “G”?
    O.K.
    Don’t think so. We’ll see.

    …As for the armed forces, I don’t know. They’re just full of heavily brainwashed youth, who have moved from ‘Call of Duty’ on the PC to real life. It’s one big adventure. They’re told who to kill and the follow orders.If they had any common sense they wouldn’t be where they are, being turned into mindless automatons, invading foreign lands and killing because someone tells you to.. ..

    O.K.
    My take: quite simplistic.

    The people responsible for the downfall are the Jews, although self hating white people certainly help them carry the can.

    O.K.
    My take: I’d, still, read those books. They are quite short.
    You could find them useful. Maybe.

  107. Harbinger says:
    @Bookish1

    Sure, when a major depression hits, things will be different, but you’ve completely missed the point of my ‘rant’. Other than the fact it’s a realistic rant, the younger generations, having no food in their bellies won’t magically remove the cultural Marxist indoctrination. They won’t have animosity to the immigrants. They’ll see them in exactly the same boat as them and no doubt the msm will blame ‘whitey’ for the depression, causing them to hate themselves even more and happily sit, self flagellating.
    You have lost your younger generations. This is what you do not seem to understand. The only way that the indoctrination can be reversed is by doing exactly what cultural Marxism did with the younger generations and starting again.
    The young WILL NOT change their views. They are completely indoctrinated and will simply go into overdose mode when you tell them the truth, that’s after cognitive dissonance has kicked in.

    And our ‘masters’ already have played out every scenario of a depression. I should imagine, as in the past, they’ll be banging the war drums, to get all those poor unemployed whites, to fight in another Israeli war, either Iran, Russia, China or all three. Bottom line again – heads Jews win, tails non Jews win, depression and economic collapse or not.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  108. foobc1 says:
    @E_Perez

    Quite the contrary: he defended the White Race which he called the ‘Aryans’ and warned us, which forces were about to destroy it, if not separated from the Aryans and given their own country.

    Aryan comes from the Aryan religion – also known as Hinduism.

    There was no concept of White Race in any of the Hitler writings. He did use Aryan (again taken from Hinduism, which is the only place the word arises) for Germanic people and adopted the Holy Hindu Swastika (which along with Laltika) is also uniquely Hindu/Aryan.

    Why ? Because of linguistic reasons – German and Sanskrit have the same common ancestor language and both the Norse and Hindu holy books are similar – both are called Eddas. Arya only appears in the Hindu Eddas though, not the Norse ones.

    Therefore the speakers thereof are descended from the same pool of people/

    For those talking about Aryans: name 10 Aryan tribes/last names and 3 Aryan gods – go!

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @E_Perez
  109. joannf says:
    @sally

    So you’re propagating unlimited hedonism, at the cost of the planetary ecology.

  110. @c matt

    This “pope’s” objective seems to be to destroy the Catholic Church. If muslifying Europe is what it takes, I’m sure he’s on board.

    The Roman Catholic Church was destroyed in the late 1400s with the introduction of full-bore neo-Platonism into the Vatican. To say otherwise is to deny 500 years of history.

    Of course, it may equally be said that the unity of Christianity was destroyed by the filioque and the assertion of papal primacy. But who’s counting? Certainly no one here is.

  111. Durruti says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    so your opinion is simply that and means nothing compared to the power and authenticity of the man Hitler. Thank God we have films.

    “Thank God we have films.”

    And those films might remind you that Agent Hitler & his Nazis led Germany to the abyss – utter ruin.

    I do not know if there was another choice for Germany & Europe where they could have avoided 2 unnecessary ruinous wars. In America we were not even cognizant of the destruction to our Republic on November 22, 1963. Or to the shame of having our Government controlled for 30 years, by the Shadow Government of MOSSAD – Epstein – Maxwell & company. Can you imagine the so-called MALE President of your country painted in a Blue Dress?

    A few months ago, 72 of our Congressmen received implants, while on a REQUIRED trip to the Zionist Entity. They kissed Asses, not rings, & genuflected at the Wailing (Roman) Wall.

    My dad was a Belgian. He & my cousin took me all over Germany.

    In America, our media slander Tulsi Gabbard, a military veteran, & candidate for the so-called Presidency. She is viciously, hatefully, shamefully, slandered, & there are no American MEN to come forward & defend her.

    You are correct. Sometimes we cannot understand.

    Durruti

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @tac
  112. geokat62 says:

    The current JEW/WASP ruling class…

    Can we put the JEW/WASP ruling class to bed. WASPs have been displaced several decades ago.

    The reigning ruling class is Jewish Supremacists and their Traitorous Shabbos Goys.

    That’s why Yuri Slezkine entitled his book, The Jewish Century.

    • Agree: Hail
  113. @anarchyst

    Pope Leo X, a member of the De’ Medici banking family, reversed the ancient teaching on usury (lending at interest) 450 years before Vatican ll.

    Moses forbade the Israelites to charge interest on a loan to any except the ‘ nokri’ which basically meant the Canaanites, the people God had slated for destruction.

    The Prophets wanted to stone usurers to death.

    The Psalms describe a righteous man as one who does not charge usury.

    Aristotle wrote usury was unnatural because it made gold, which is sterile, fertile.

    In the Sermon on the Mount (Luke 6:35) Jesus says “Lend expecting nothing in return.”

    Even the Pharisees, who wrote the Talmud, forbade a Jew to charge interest of a fellow Jew.

    In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries scores of books were written condemning usury. See The Culture of Usury in Renaissance England by David Hawkes.

    I think Michael Hoffman amply demonstrates that Vatican ll represents the emergence into the light of corruption many centuries old in his magisterial The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome.

  114. @Intelligent Dasein

    Or by the failure of all economic means?

  115. Donald Trump

    Charlie Kirk

    GLOBAL HOMO

    Now, exactly why are you voting for Donald Trump? To impose GLOBAL HOMO on Shia Muslim Iran?

    Iran has a healthy and normal Policy towards its Homosexual Pederast Populati0n…

  116. Harbinger says:
    @Durruti

    “And those films might remind you that Agent Hitler & his Nazis led Germany to the abyss – utter ruin.”

    I see you’re taking the Henry Makow stance that Hitler was a British agent?
    Ok, right, I see.
    Winston Churchill stated the following:

    “The unforgivable sin, of Hitler’s Germany was to develop a new banking system by which the international bankers were deprived of their profits”

    This was the cause of WW2. Hitler was no agent. He did exactly the same as what Abraham Lincoln did, with his printing of green banks issued by the government and not private bankers. WW2 was about money and Hitler stuck his fingers up at the Jewish bankers.
    Look, Henry Makow, although I respect some of his views, is completely lost on this, as well as his belief that Germans deliberately targeted Jews for extinction and there was a holocaust (although he disagrees in the death total). It’s incredibly easy to state that Hitler was an agent, because he took his country to war, but then what isn’t easy to answer is why he arrested, imprisoned and seized the assets of Rothschild in Austria, along with the fact that he made repeated attempts, around 12 or so, with Britain to ally and defeat communism.

    Stalin, might I remind you, invaded Poland the same time as Hitler and yet the west allied with Russia and declared war on Germany? Kaufman’s book ‘Germany Must Perish’ was already perishing rather nicely, under the stranglehold of Jewish big business and banking. It certainly would have died had Hitler not risen up to give Germans dignity and unite them, once again as a nation.

    The best way to destroy a hero is tell the lie that he was working for the enemy. I think it’s complete and utter hogwash quite frankly.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  117. Durruti says:
    @Dave Bowman

    There are now no options left. We must FIGHT.

    The enemy gained power through Violence (Terrorism). They hold power through Terror, from 11/22/1963, to 9/11, the assault on the Liberty, & the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. Terrorists may not be defeated through argument.

    From – Committees of Correspondence – to Sons & Daughters of Liberty – to Minutemen.

    Freedom is not Free. It must be paid for!

    Durruti

    My favorite painting from my favorite artist.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=delacroix+liberty+leading+the+people+painting&sxsrf=ACYBGNS1yk6tJMWoUPs8AlN-7tX5aQJ9dA:1572732189742&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=vh8W_xhxX5vuCM%253A%252CVEdyAyt0DqwCnM%252C%252Fm%252F021yjf&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQDjaOMA_mbWjlP2GS1fcTN_XiAaw&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwje9fv7w8zlAhVwzlkKHQ0LAjQQ_B0IggQ#imgrc=vh8W_xhxX5vuCM:

    • Replies: @geokat62
  118. @foobc1

    Norse Eddas are not holy books. Eddas are a collection of stories. The Snorra or Prose Edda is sagas collected and written down by Snorri Sturlasson in the early 13th century. The “Poetic” Edda or Codex Regius is of unknown origin, but predates the Prose Edda. Old Icelandic/Norse poetry is written using patterned alliteration and rhyme to make it easier to remember. It is, in essence Old Norse oral history. Some of the Poetic Edda is “religious”, but not all of it. There are also poems dedicated to kings and just things in general.
    I suppose one could consider this ‘religious’ as it is a poem about Thor losing his hammer. https://www.snerpa.is/net/kvaedi/tryms2.htm
    The more recent renditions of the poetic edda poems’ form are called rímur (rhymes). They require a very good knowledge of the language and are about ordinary people and things. They are usually relatively short and could be made up for special occasions such as milestone birthdays or humorous tales. There are a few book collections of them.

    As for swastikas (or their relative, fylfots) they have been found in Swedish iron age sites. The Aryans “swept down from the North” when invading India, crying “kill the dark ones”. Ir-an, Ir-aq and Ire-land were Aryan lands. Yes, they are called Indo-European languages, but they originated in the Caucasus region.

    • Replies: @Anon
  119. geokat62 says:
    @Durruti

    My favorite painting from my favorite artist, Liberty Leading the People by Eugène Delacroix:

    • Replies: @Dannyboy
  120. Durruti says:
    @Harbinger

    I see you’re taking the Henry Makow stance that Hitler was a British agent?

    I have suspected it, as any analysis of the Night of the Long Knives – Massacre (and identifying the major Nazi individuals eliminated), leads me to the conclusion that Hitler was (or began as), an Agent. I would choose Zionist Financiers as his operators, Not the British.

    Who was Henry Makow?

    Stalin did NOT “invaded Poland the same time as Hitler.” What I have read was that the Russians came in to Poland, AFTER the Germans began their march on Warsaw. Comparing Hitler to Stalin, is not a good defense of the German Dictator.

    Can you document that Hitler “arrested, imprisoned and seized the assets of Rothschild in Austria.”?? I would not believe much of Churchill (read most of his writings) wrote.

    You conclude: “The best way to destroy a hero is tell the lie that he was working for the enemy.” We differ on which enemy, as well as any enemy Hitler worked for. As a wartime Messenger, and one who was kept employed by the German Army ‘Intelligence’ after the war, Hitler most assuredly was an Agent. For whom is the question.

    I am not attempting to “destroy a hero.” He did that (supposedly), by himself. There is always the suspicion that Hitler survived the war, and, like Epstein & Maxwell, was comfortably retired – his work done. Hitler was no Hero; altho -different strokes for different blokes!

    Yes, Germany, America, France, all Nations must survive. To do that they must destroy the Zionist World Order, as they regain their Sovereignty and their People’s Liberty.

    Durruti

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Harbinger
  121. @Bookish1

    You really think “chronic cheating” and corruption is “kicking ass”?

  122. In the West, Free Speech begins and ends with “Is it good for Jews?”

  123. AaronB says:

    The basic idea of rehabilitating the West in its old form is wrong. What would be the point of reviving a corpse.

    What is needed is not revival of old forms that have grown rigid and died, but creative adaptation and change.

    Resisting change and death is the disease of the old, dying Western civilization. But everything has to die in for order new and interesting things to come up. Death and renewal are life.

    This idea that we need to revive the old West that has died is similar to the way people in the West can’t accept death as a natural thing but try and live forever.

    We simply cannot accept death in the West.

    But the old West had already grown terribly stuffy and boring and oppressive for many people. So many people hated it and suffered from its rigid thinking. It was exciting and vital at the beginning of the Renaissance, but after a while the spirit of discovery settled down into certainty and knowledge, and the spark died. That’s natural.

    Already in the late 1700s Europeans were beginning to feel that the spark had died or was dying, and that things were getting stuffy and boring. Not everyone, of course, but lots of people.

    One of my favourite English adventurers, Captain Burton, was already at that time talking about how dull and boring and unsatisfying things had become in old Europe, and he had to look for wonder and magic in far flung places. Lots of Europeans were beginning to feel this way.

    • Disagree: Malacaay, Houston 1992
    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Poco
  124. Anon[334] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bookish1

    rochester says:

    It’s nice to have the UR black community comment.

  125. AaronB says:

    Of course, talk of reviving Catholicism may merely indicate dissatisfaction with what I call the old West, or what it became – i.e, devoid of magic and wonder, spirituality or mysticism, and based on science and technology.

    But to restore the Catholicism of the last 300 years would be to revive a corpse – magic and wonder had already fled from it.

    But of the idea is just to turn away from an exclusive concern with technology and science and back towards magic and wonder, than yes, that is inevitable in the course of things anyways.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anon
  126. Anon[334] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Ir-aq

    No

    Ire-land

    Vaguely posit-able.

    “kill the dark ones”

    Apparently not too successfully.

    You are of course right about the two Eddas.

  127. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @Durruti

    And surviving would mean importing everyone from the Middle East to Africa, Asia and all ports and parts everywhere? Being totally over-run is a new survival tactic I never heard of before, obviously.
    No wonder Jesus couldn’t recognise any people, maybe this tactic was used before? I’ll have to consider it more, or wait for a reply, or both.

  128. Bookish1 says:
    @anon

    The exodus was written about 500 years after it supposedly happened. So hoe did the know all those details after 5 centuries?.

  129. Bookish1 says:
    @Cyrano

    National Socialism isn’t a jewish invention because it isn’t international inits philosophy like other socialism. Jews are internationaists.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  130. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Would wiping out God/Jesus and his poeple fall within the NAP or non-aggression principle and doing so while taking their land?

  131. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @sally

    Your outlook is the bog standard female worldview and this is why women simply cannot be involved in the political process. I don’t even intend this as an insult, but this idea that every single human on earth must be made happy by ‘society’ is not possible and in fact massively destructive.

    And a ‘death sentence for those who infringe on anyone’s human rights’! Bravo. Wonderful. We need more sensible, workable solutions like this…we’ll be well on our way to happyland within weeks, with all those ‘freedom infringers’ finally departed from the scene.. lol.

    If more people had common sense like you, we’d have a much better world. I’m sure you’d agree.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  132. Hank Yobo says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Wasn’t the West pagan prior to Christ’s advent and the missionary efforts of the Early Church? If it happened before, it could happen again.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  133. Harbinger says:
    @Durruti

    “I have suspected it, as any analysis of the Night of the Long Knives – Massacre (and identifying the major Nazi individuals eliminated), leads me to the conclusion that Hitler was (or began as), an Agent. I would choose Zionist Financiers as his operators, Not the British.”

    The ‘Night of the Long Knives’ proves absolutely nothing, whatsoever, that he was an agent of foreign provocateurs. And what is Zionism, if not the ideology bankrolled by ‘British Israel’, Lord Rothschild?

    “Stalin did NOT “invaded Poland the same time as Hitler.” What I have read was that the Russians came in to Poland, AFTER the Germans began their march on Warsaw. Comparing Hitler to Stalin, is not a good defense of the German Dictator.”

    The time of Stalin’s invasion is irrelevant, whether before, during or after. The point being made was that Britain went to war with Germany, on the excuse of invading Poland and yet allied with Russia who did precisely the same. And I never compared Hitler to Stalin. One was a national socialist and the other an international socialist. Both ideologies diametrically oppose one another. One is thesis to the other’s antithesis.

    “Can you document that Hitler “arrested, imprisoned and seized the assets of Rothschild in Austria.”?? I would not believe much of Churchill (read most of his writings) wrote.

    Forgive me for the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Nathaniel_de_Rothschild
    Believe it or not, Churchill did state that or should I state, something akin to those words. It was to Lord Boothby that he is known as stating:

    “Germany’s most unforgivable crime before the Second World War was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world’s trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit.”

    Renegade Tribune states of the above quote:

    “So Germany’s unwillingness to be looted by international bankers was the reason million and millions of Europeans had to perish? The world elite definitely didn’t want the “Goyim” to get any big ideas after seeing Germany’s remarkable recovery under National Socialism.”
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/winston-churchill-germanys-unforgivable-crime/

    You state:

    “I am not attempting to “destroy a hero.” He did that (supposedly), by himself. There is always the suspicion that Hitler survived the war, and, like Epstein & Maxwell, was comfortably retired – his work done. Hitler was no Hero; altho -different strokes for different blokes!”

    The thing is that Hitler was a hero, very much to the German people, the overwhelming majority. He dragged Germany from the hell of the Weimar Republic, cleaned up ‘Sin City’ Berlin. Overnight turned Germany into an economic powerhouse, ended the high suicide rate, brought Germany’s high numbers of unemployed back into work and gave people a reason to be. And how are people supposed to believe if they’re told the man they looked upon as a hero, was really an asset of the enemy and wanted them all dead, retiring to Argentina with Eva Braun? The reason, given, that Hitler escaped is the concept of the burning of their bodies, once they’d committed suicide. Certainly this is very plausible; bring in two bodies, male and female, burn them beyond recognition and say they’re Hitler and Eva, while they escape. But then, considering what the Italians did to Mussoini and his wife, after they’d been murdered, one can understand why Hitler, would have also chosen the bodies to be burned. We’ll never know. There certainly is an argument there for both sides.
    William Wallace is a Scottish hero, along with Robert the Bruce, but how many people died fighting for Scotland, under both, more so Wallace? He was an enemy of the English, but a hero of the Scottish. This is paralleled by Hitler. The only difference here is that Wallace never attacked the Jews. Hitler has been demonised. His ideology forbidden along with any worship, pending imprisonment if so. This is the difference here. The German people have been so battered into submission, they can’t even celebrate a man who turned their country from a living hell into a paradise, who dared to give them pride in being German, who turned it into an economic success overnight and who brought his country into a war, because he was attacked by the world’s only superpower (Britain), albeit dying, an emerging superpower (the US) and many European nations, under the control of Jews. He had no choice but to defend Germany from the wrath of the (((international bankers))) because he destroyed their debt slavery, in Germany, once and for all.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  134. geokat62 says:
    @AaronB

    Lots of Europeans were beginning to feel this way.

    Thank goodness organized Jewry came along and injected some real excitement into our lives.

    We’d much rather be replaced and become a minority in our homelands than be bored to death.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  135. haha says:
    @RoatanBill

    Bang on! Nonsense it looks like because nonsense it is. I once tried reading Foucalt (one of the Frankfurt school’s arty nerds) and must confess did not understand most of it. I then read it a second time, this time with the focus and intensity I normally reserve for a mathematical text, and came to the conclusion that all his writing was a play with empty words. Whatever could be constructed to have any meaning was simply disgusting and a crusade for perversion and depravity of every conceivable kind.

  136. Bookish1 says:
    @Harbinger

    You make broad generalizations about young people being marxists. I am not sure that you understand them. I think many of them no nothing about politics and I get the sense many of them are neo nazi types. I could be wrong though. But you generalize to much about them.

  137. AaronB says:
    @geokat62

    We’d much rather be replaced and become a minority in our homelands than be bored to death.

    Apparently. Because that’s what you’ve chosen.

    But if you know history you’ll know that collapses in the West and cultural renewal are always accompanied by massive population shifts. That’s what happened with Rome. That’s the historical pattern.

    White elites seem to have an instinct that the old European race is exhausted and even if it can continue in the old way perfectly fine, it’s not coming up with anything new. And towards the end, the old culture was increasingly unbearable to most intelligent Europeans.

    Humans fear change, but its possible to look at this as an exciting opportunity. Whatever new race emerges in Europe as the final result of all this mixing will have continuity with the old European race but also be as different from it as modern Italians are from Romans – and what new excitng cultural vistas will it open up to us?

    You fear it, but racial renewal is necessary to creative adaptation and growth – for life. We Jews receive constant infusions of new blood all the time – we’d have no vitality has we preserved pure the ancient bloodline, our vitality would have been exhausted long ago. Instead we renew ourselves every few generations and so never decay. That is the secret of our longevity.

    Of my 20 closest friends and acquaintances, 5 married converts to Judaism or are converts – that’s a full 25%. And this is great for us.

    What it is, is change-within-continuity – rigid resistance to change and clinging to old forms spells death.

    • Disagree: Malacaay
  138. Cleburne says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Mrs Yeager, are you suggesting that only ethnic Germans are permitted to engage in criticism of Hitler? Does this mean that you, as an ethnic German, will no longer share with us your thoughts on (eg) Churchill or Roosevelt or WC Handy?

    • LOL: iffen
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  139. Avery says:
    @refl

    You have a good point there.

  140. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    People here aren’t talking about a stuffy period ‘devoid of magic, wonder and cotton candy’

    They are concerned about the physical destruction of the European peoples.

    Don’t use the word ‘we’ in this sort of discussion.

  141. KenH says:
    @Avery

    Sorry: it was the (Communist) Red Army that broke the back of the Wehrmacht.

    True, the Red Army inflicted a great many casualties on the Wehrmacht (much more than the Western nations), but the Wehrmacht inflicted far more on the Red Army and were still inflicting horrific losses on them even when they were in headlong retreat in 1944-45. The Red Army suffered nearly 400,000 casualties just attempting to take Berlin and probably would have been rebuffed if the Wehrmacht didn’t have to deal with the Americans and Brits bearing down from the West and Northwest.

    Some studies show that for every casualty the Wehrmacht sustained on the Eastern front they inflicted eight upon the Red Army. As such, the Red Army was virtually broken and prostrate by the end of the war which didn’t go unnoticed by General Patton.

    I have no quarrel with Russians and Russophiles but what they will never admit is that without the U.S. and U.K. creating both a Western front via the D-Day invasion (at the urging of Stalin) and Southern front in Sicily and Italy as well as 24/7 bombing of German industrial and civilian centers the war in the East would have been fought to a stalemate.

    The Western powers did enough to tie up and degrade German resources to give the Soviet Union some breathing room.

    • Replies: @Poco
  142. geokat62 says:
    @AaronB

    You fear it, but racial renewal is necessary to creative adaptation and growth – for life.

    Are you BLS’s speechwriter?

    It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.

    We Jews receive constant infusions of new blood all the time…

    Oh, good! So, the Jewish State will be embracing Multiculturalism and welcoming sub-saharan Africans rather than caging them and deporting them to Western countries?

  143. Harbinger says:
    @sally

    I actually started replying to each paragraph and then I just stopped, realising that what you’re effectively proposing is a socialist society and lo and behold, a woman, all in favour of a powerful state to carry out the execution of people who might infringe on the individual rights of humans.

    My view of society is simply – one without rule and rulers – anarchy. But you see, women wouldn’t really do well in an anarchy would they? Hence why women are the proponents of the socialist state, to create a totalitarian system where thugs (police) patrol the streets assaulting, kidnapping and imprisoning anyone who should infringe on the rights of another, or break any such laws, whomever might decide should be implemented upon society such as you can smoke this plant, but not that one because so and so says so.

    ‘The road to hell is paved with good intentions’ and it pretty much sums up woman, who is constantly scheming to create a ‘perfect’ society she can be safe in, at the expense of destroying the male and feminising him for her overall security. In matriarchal societies/societies with female authority, power and influence we see the rise of homosexuals, of lesbians, the acceptance of mental illness fruitloops who think they’e the opposite sex to what they were born as. We see mass immigration, because quite frankly a woman will jump on any colour of penis as most have absolutely no love of their nation and the sacrifices their ancestors gave so they can exist. Thus miscegenation grows exponentially, multiculturalism destroys the indigenous one and hasta la vista nation and tribe. Welcome to globalism and all humanity is the same, of course that is, until all these stupid women have essentially turned their men into effeminate flowers and there’s no one to protect them when the Africans and the middle easterners, from strong patriarchies come trundling on in and decide to rape and murder the female population.

    Your post epitomises WHY women shouldn’t ever have been allowed into the workplace and given the vote. You are, by definition, the destroyers of everything your men folk create. You, as woman, naturally gravitate towards the group and authoritarian societies. Your society is the one that Orwell writes about in Animal Farm and 1984.

  144. Hail says: • Website
    @Dave Bowman

    I do believe you’re right about the term’s origins, Dave.

    On my use of the word “popularized”: The Chalmers Johnson book (I think written in 1999 and published in 2000) aligns exactly the term’s 5x increase in use-rate by about 2004 over its 1970s-to-1990s running average, according to the Google Ngram corpus.

    In any case, the US attitude towards the political situation in Europe in the late 1930s and 1940s may be an example of mega-scale ‘Blowback,’ which many by our era today have identified, including such figures as Pat Buchanan.

    If phrased properly, this kind of wording avoids dealing out unnecessary blame or provoking people’s instinctual reactions about this or that unemployed Austrian painter and etc., or engaging in tabloid-style, empty sloganeering (the “Hitler’s revenge” term many commenters took issue with).

    The point is that foreign policy commitments can and almost always do, have some kind of domestic political consequences, a simple idea but one which Americans seem to need to be reminded of.

  145. There are only four things certain since Social Progress began,
    That the dog returns to his vomit and the sow returns to her mire
    And the burnt fool’s finger goes wabbling back to the fire
    And that after this is accomplished and The Brave New World begins
    When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins
    As surely as water will wet us, as surely as fire will burn
    The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

  146. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:

    What’s wrong with nationalist fascism? We have nations so that each one can pursue its exclusionary interests and so they can work toward best outcomes for their majority. An effort that is best realized through fascist social morality.

    Never again for what? Fighting for a nation’s self determination to the dismay of a theologically hostile minority? They have a fascist nation too.

    Give us a break.

  147. Bookish1 says:
    @AaronB

    Pure bullshit! There isn’t going to be a new race emerging in Europe. No new race could ever match the achievements of the white race. A new race would mean racial degeneration. What is going to happen is whites are going to expel all non whites from Europe. We can see the very beginnings of that movement with the rise of the AFD In Germany. It has just barely begun.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @dfordoom
  148. Durruti says:
    @Harbinger

    He dragged Germany from the hell of the Weimar Republic, cleaned up ‘Sin City’ Berlin. Overnight turned Germany into an economic powerhouse, ended the high suicide rate, brought Germany’s high numbers of unemployed back into work and gave people a reason to be. And how are people supposed to believe if they’re told the man they looked upon as a hero, was really an asset of the enemy and wanted them all dead,

    There it is – this is your analysis.

    Understand: You might be correct, & I, wrong. We are having a serious discussion. Yes, Germany revived after 1933 (when Hitler became Chancellor). Among other factors, renewed emphasis on rearmament helped fuel Germany’s industries. The economic transformation was significant. As for cleaning up Sin City, I am not so sure.

    What we do know. What you & I are certain about; is that Hitler “dragged Germany from the hell of the Weimar Republic,” and left it in ashes. Whether or not it was the fault of Hitler & his Nazis, (and clearly they were not the only actors in this Shakespearian Play about the Life and Death of Europe, and the World), Hitler & his Nazis were unable to/did not leave their German Nation in economic and political health.

    Indeed, the same judgement (before God and History) must be made in America, or any other nation. How did the ‘Heroes’ find their/our Nations and their/our Compatriots, and in what condition did they leave them? The judgement must be honestly applied without the use of Rose Colored Glasses.

    Jewish Oligarchs control the world. Are they doing it any good?

    Failures, as well as successes, must be taken into account when analysing a Nation’s, a People’s history, and their ‘Heroes,’ (as one of my professors at Lehigh reminded me).

    This has been a lovely discussion. The coffee is wearing off.

    God Bless!

    Durruti

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @Miro23
  149. At the risk of casting pearls to swine, the infidels should read Psalms 2. Real Christianity has not been a major factor in any country to date, only fake CHURCHIANITY, there is a big difference. When God raised the man Jesus from the dead, God made him Lord. His kingdom is growing very slowly, think 10,000 or 20,o0o years before it reaches full maturity.

  150. Sean says:
    @AaronB

    Of my 20 closest friends and acquaintances, 5 married converts to Judaism or are converts – that’s a full 25%.

    Yellow Fever? A lot of liberal Jewish women do not particularly want to marry an Asian, and may be alienated by seeing these convert families take over liberal Judaism. It remains to be seen whether the mixed relationships will produce the same level of intellectual gifts as Jewish endogamy has.

    What it is, is change-within-continuity – rigid resistance to change and clinging to old forms spells death

    John Tooby said that Stephen Jay Gould’s view, most evolutionary change takes place when closely related biological lineages compete, with one surviving and spreading through the others’ ranges while they replaced taxon goes extinct. Now for sibling species (or subspecies) to be competed against one another they must have been separated and isolated at some point, and only then can them coming together be evolutionarily advantageous. So while there is something in diversity that is beneficial, as in so many things you cannot say without qualification that it is a panacea.

    The racial quality of Americans in very high in part due to Jews, but the basis is the largest component which is German. They sent their best, and A LOT OF THEM.

    https://www.newstatesman.com/2019/08/hitler-s-long-shadow
    Hitler was in fact deeply pessimistic, some would say realistic, about their weakness in the face of their “Anglo-Saxon” rivals. […] Even more intense was the fear and admiration that Hitler felt towards the United States, … He was impressed by the sheer size and wealth of the country, and its modernity, as expressed by automobiles and other consumer products. Above all, Hitler regarded America as the model of … racial perfection, … His main preoccupation throughout his career, I argue, was not the Soviet Union…but Anglo-America and capitalism.

    Hitler thought he had the formula for success: merciless competition and drive for efficiency. It only remained to expand geometrically. Before and right through WW2 he constantly called for Germany to move to mass production a la Ford. The technical innovation that could have won Germany the war was nukes but the style of Hitler was to prioritise for immediately useful projects. He was fighting a USSR that had massive factories built by American experts (Anthony P Sutton’s work makes that clear) and using American technology to mass produce a few proven designs.

    https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/andreas-wagner/life-finds-a-way/
    Most readers associate evolution with Darwinian natural selection, but Wagner points out its limited creative capacity. …This process works perfectly in an “adaptive landscape” with a single peak, but it fails when there are many—and higher—peaks. Conquering the highest—true creativity—requires descending into a valley and trying again. Natural selection never chooses the worse over the better, so it can’t descend. Wagner devotes most of his book to … the sources of true biological creativity: genetic drift, recombination, and other processes that inject diversity into the evolutionary process. […] The human parallel with natural selection is laissez faire competition, which is efficient but equally intolerant of trial and error. Far more productive are systems that don’t penalize failure but encourage play, experimentation, dreaming, and diverse points of vie. In this vein, American schools fare poorly, but Asian schools are worse.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @anon
  151. Harbinger says:
    @Durruti

    “What we do know. What you & I are certain about; is that Hitler “dragged Germany from the hell of the Weimar Republic,” and left it in ashes. Whether or not it was the fault of Hitler & his Nazis, (and clearly they were not the only actors in this Shakespearian Play about the Life and Death of Europe, and the World), Hitler & his Nazis were unable to/did not leave their German Nation in economic and political health.”

    We are in agreement that Hitler dragged Germany from the hell of the Weimar Republic into an economic success story, but stating that he left it in ashes, implies fault on Hitler’s part, which of course you are implying him being an enemy agent. My take is that Hitler had no choice. It was the UK, France, the USSR and the US, that declared war on Germany, so if anyone left Germany in ashes it was the allied powers, not the axis. They were defending their land and doing their best to avoid it turning into ashes.

    “Jewish Oligarchs control the world. Are they doing it any good?”

    That they do and most certainly are not, well certainly not from the non Jewish standpoint.
    Look at Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya in the middle east, along with Sudan in Africa for Jewish oligarchical wars carried out by their proxy, western armed force?
    Look at the state of affair of debt in Europe, unemployment, mass immigration, multiculturalism and multiracialism, along with what’s actively happening in Sweden and Germany, under communist politicians, where no go areas are springing up every day, rapes are on the increase daily and murder as well.
    Look at the rise of homosexuality and transgenderism, along with pansexualism and another 60+ gender definitions that have sprung up over the last two decades?
    Look at the rise of feminism, #MeToo and the madness of equality, where the divide between the sexes is growing horrifically, with men shunning marriage and relationships for fear of divorce court persecution and false rape allegation should they be in a room/life/wherever alone with a woman?
    Look at the blatant white hatred, going on, especially in the US, where politicians and msm new’s anchors openly speak about destroying ‘whiteness’?

    I could certainly go on, but that’s just a taste of the many problems being cause by Jewry. It’s not just Jewish oligarchs, but certainly a large part of the Jewish population who, courtesy of heavy indoctrination in the cult of the Synagogue when young, they have been taught to hate non Jews and believe they are God’s chosen and above non Jews. Look at Hollywood and the msm. Every attack on whites is via Jews and their feminist/non white/lesbian proxy warriors. If you ever get a chance to look at YouTube I strongly suggest looking for the channel ‘Black Pilled’ and watching his videos. He worked in film and TV and he reviews films of the present and the past showing you what the real meanings are. And the findings are horrific – movies created by Jews, to bring about white hatred and promote the fake persecution of Jews.
    The bottom line about Jews is simple, sure, there very well ‘maybe’ are good Jews, but from what I can see, there are no Jews speaking out against what is blatant Jewish promotion of white hatred, nay racism towards whites in the msm. These Jews, within, the journalists who work in TV, print media and radio, the screen writers, directors and producers in the film industry are certainly not part of the oligarchy whatsoever. They are clear in their endeavours and incredibly silent when speaking out against Jews and calling them out for their blatant hatred and loathing of European people, their culture, nations, civilisation and race. Their silence, sadly, very much promotes their complicity.

    Yes, it has been an enjoyable discussion, that is when both parties, although in disagreement are civil towards one another and respect one another’s opinions. It isn’t always the case unfortunately.

    • Replies: @Avery
  152. AaronB says:
    @Sean

    Only one Korean. The rest are blonds lol. One Irish. One Czech/German. One American Anglo. The last I don’t know.

    I have been arguing that seeing life as a game and fundamentally unserious will not only make us more creative but happier.

    The great creative thinkers and artists of the West were basically dillettanes, and its impossible to miss the note of playful exuberance in their work. And the best mathematicians simply play with numbers for the sheer love of it, and only later it turns out that it has all sorts of useful applications.

    Its impossible also to miss the note of zestful playfulness, of setting out on an adventure, that set the tone for the European culture that began in the fifteen hundreds and is now going out with a whimper.

    Gradually life became less about play for the West and more about work, people started taking things seriously, it was no longer an adventure…and then anxiety and depression set it. Now it’s all about predicting and controlling life to the nth degree. No one has fun anymore. Everyone is preoccupied with physical survival. And scholasticism has replaced empiricism.

    The subject of work and play is vast and has been treated by eminent thinkers, but basically, when a culture loses its sense of play, and sees life as a grim task of survival, and can no longer laugh at death, it has lost its vitality.

    It needs to “descend into the valley again – to die a sort of death, and discover that survival is not so important, and rediscover that life is a game played by a child (Heraclitus, the dark philosopher). This is true in the individuals life too – “you must lose your life to gain it”. You must cease caring about survival, and die in life. Them you live best.

    Instead of genetically controlling the future of the race, we should allow a process of genetic drift and unpredictability come in and reorganize things. Nature and life is inexhaustibly rich and refund, but when we humans try and put her in a straightjacket she cannot do her thing.

    But I cannot what else, if not a profound instinct implanted by Nature herself, is leading Western elites to destroy the old ossified culture and introduce racial renewal.

    In one of Borges stories he describes how our mundane reality gets invaded by the reality of another dimension – our mundane reality “collapses” at certain points, and he makes the remark that in truth, our reality wanted to collapse.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  153. Poco says:
    @AaronB

    I also like Burton. We share this interest in Burton with Phillip Jose Farmer, a science fiction writer who wrote an entertaining book called To Your Scattered Bodies Go, in which Burton is the main character.
    But in my experience God is not magical or mystical. This does not however mean he is boring.

    • Replies: @utu
  154. Poco says:
    @KenH

    If the war had been only the soviets versus the Germans the Germans would have won. If the war had been only the allies minus the soviets the Germans would also have won.

    • Agree: KenH
  155. Avery says:
    @Harbinger

    { It was the UK, France, the USSR and the US, that declared war on Germany}

    Not true:

    UK and France did declare war on Germany, but only after Nazi Germany invaded Poland.
    USSR did not declare war on Germany: Nazi Germany invaded USSR without declaration, and quite unexpectedly, and the war was on.
    Hitler (stupidly) declared war on the US, after its ally Imperial Japan’s attack on US Navy at Pearl Harbor and Japan’s subsequent declaration of war on US.

    Nobody is to blame for leaving Germany in ashes and its subsequent subjugation, neutering, and occupation by the US – but Hitler and his Nazi goons.

    Both England and France, great Euro powers at the time, accepted Hitler’s annexation of Austria and the Sudetenland: Austria was Germanic, and its people largely welcomed the Anschluss. And Sudetenland was populated by (oppressed) Germanic people. Neither France nor England cared what happened in Sudetenland, and hence the Munich Pact (1938). Even the annexation of the non-Germanic rest of Czechoslovakia (1939) was not enough for England and France to go to war with Nazi Germany.

    But Hitler, being the messianic megalomaniac that he was with an insatiable appetite, was not satisfied with the tasty morsels he had swallowed, and decided to bite bigger and bigger chunks – and choked on them.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @Durruti
  156. @sally

    – There is a reason no functioning democracy has ever accorded the nutless and the melanin-enhanced a say. They do not think with their undersize brains but with alternative parts of their anatomy – then they call that “holistic” and somehow superior.

    – The region most closely conforming to your primal urges is probably North Kivu (Haiti, let´s face it, has become a Club Med) … no pesky White heteronormative patriarchy, no suffocating Christian mores, no blah male logic – and everybody who infringes on someone´s individual rights is executed on the spot.
    Perharps you would be interested in learning how you will be regaled?
    Well, you start with five strong men and a hardwood club; it is imperative that every bone in the witch is broken before she loses consciousness or dies lest she come back to haunt you – which takes some expertise …

    Enjoy 😀

    I mean really. Begone. And afterwards don´t come bitching.

    Should you, however, want butter on 25 sides of your bagel and fugees on MY continent I have to regard it as genocide under the UN Charter (read it up and remember it is the Law of the Land under the Constitution).
    We don´t forget either.

  157. @Bookish1

    You should have noticed Aaron means
    “.. the Eurasian-Negroid mixed race of the Future, with the Jews [as the only unmixed – ed.] as their new intellectual nobility” 😀

    – O-tone ((( Coudenhove-Kalergi ))) (her daddy to be precise), godfather of pan”Europe”.

  158. Seraphim says:
    @Hank Yobo

    It happens right now. The ‘West’ is really the end result of a centuries old action of de-christianization of the society which is ongoing. It is not the LGBT+, nor the cartoonish ‘Norse gods’, nor the ‘Enlightenment values’ that would stop the Islamization of the ‘West’ and its slide to the status of ‘Third World’.

  159. anaccount says:

    There is no doubt that various sects of Christianity have served as protective measures but not all. Do I need to mention all the quaker faggotry in this country and the harm it has done?

    If you worship a Jew on a cross don’t be surprised when you get ruled by one too.

    It doesn’t have to be Odin but you’d be a lot better off.

  160. Harbinger says:
    @Avery

    Germany wanted access through the Polish corridor to Danzig and East Prussia. The Polish refused. They Polish Jews were also causing problems with the German hatred, being communists. Hitler had no choice, whatsoever to attack Poland in order to reclaim the lands. France invaded Germany before WW2 started and were thoroughly beaten and driven out in a matter of days. This is not talked about in history. The UK declared war on Germany because the Rothschilds demanded it, as explained in my previous replies – Germany kicked them out of Austria, threw Nathaniel Rothschild in prison, whom they ransomed off and Hitler started printing the German equivalent of Lincoln’s ‘greenbacks’ (debt free currency backed by the government not private, Jewish bankers) to the anger of the Jews.
    To believe that the UK actually gave a sh*t about Poland is utter hogswash.
    Russia was going to invade Germany and Hitler knew about this, so he was simply making a preemptive strike before Russia did.
    As for Japan, well the US delberately provoked them into attack with their oil embargo, an active declaration of war on Japan. America also had forewarning of Pearl Harbour and allowed it to happen to give them reason to go to war against Japan.
    The Jews, in the US Federal Reserve demanded it. Why? Congress borrowed money from the privately owned Federal Reserve, with high interest – war = lots of money for the Jews.

    So I am correct. America deliberately antagonised Japan, Germany’s ally into war, essentially declaring war on them and therefore Germany. France had attempted an invasion and failed. The UK, under the Zionist Focus Group puppet, Churchill, was responsible for WW2 essentially.
    If you truly do believe that the UK declared war on Germany because the reason was Poland, then you have allowed yourself to believe the lies that the Jewish msm and academia have fed westerners for the last 70 years. Britain went to war with Germany, because Germany was becoming a successful economic nation, producing far better quality goods. They were a threat to Britain and the Jews. That’s the bottom line about why WW2 started. One can also add as well that Zionists had their plans to strengthen Israel and did so by creating the lies of gas chambers and the extermination of 6 million.

    And only a fool, who regurgitates Jewish propaganda and lies of WW2, or a Jewish troll, would call Hitler a messianic megalomaniac. You see Jews are taught, from the minute their foreskin’s lopped off, that Germany sought to exterminate the Jews, He didn’t. He wanted rid of them, no different to 1,000+ previous national world leaders, who were successful. Hitler is the Emanuel Goldstein, in Orwell’s 1984, a figure of hate, deliberately created.
    WW2 was about the Jews natural affinity for revolution and upheaval. Hitler’s booting out of Jewish bankers and creation of his own, government backed, national bank was what created WW2, not the laughable lie of his invasion into Poland.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  161. @Harbinger

    Thanks for restoring my faith in humankind´s understanding of history.

    … a few tiny qualifiers 😉
    – WWII in Europe was just a continuation of WWI and inevitable by 1928, Hitler or not.
    French obsession with keeping the Germans in servitude forever was also the ultimate cause of the Great Depression (forcing Germany to export at any cost and undercut the US).
    – The City of London´s reason for jumping on the bandwagon was Hitler´s abandoning the gold standard.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  162. Cyrano says:
    @Bookish1

    Would it surprise you terribly if I told you that Hitler’s “Socialism” has much more in common with western liberalism than with “other socialisms”? The main quality that Hitler’s Socialism and western liberalism share – is that they are both phony. There is 0 substance to both of them.

    • Replies: @Malacaay
    , @Bookish1
  163. IT is a mistake to take ideas too seriously. Figure out what clash of powers is. The “open society” looks less open by the day. In fact, the main question is whether a coalition of minorities can be maintained to attack the hegemony of white gentiles. As for the rationale, that changes to meet the needs of the moment.

    The left always looks at the right sociologically but the ‘respectable’ right agrees never to to look at the left sociologically.

  164. @War for Blair Mountain

    Donald Trump is doing this because he HATES NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS MALES….HE HATES YOU…

    You’re giving the Orange Fugazi too much credit. He seems more unaware than hateful, and will never awaken surrounded by (((advisers.)))

  165. Miro23 says:
    @Durruti

    What we do know. What you & I are certain about; is that Hitler “dragged Germany from the hell of the Weimar Republic,” and left it in ashes.

    Hitler left it in ashes because of his grandiose Imperial/racist dreams.

    If he had been content to establish his dictatorship over largely German people, we would probably still have a Greater Germany at the centre of Europe. After the Anschluss (March 1938 annexation/reunion with Austria) and invasion of Czechoslovakia (March 1939 annexation of the Sudetenland and dominion over Slovakia) he could have stopped there.

    Czechoslovakia was an obvious target (at least the Sudetenland), but beyond that he was dealing with the Slavonic world and Western European Anglos, Nordics and Latins.

    • Replies: @Malacaay
  166. @Harbinger

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions’ and it pretty much sums up woman, who is constantly scheming to create a ‘perfect’ society she can be safe in, at the expense of destroying the male and feminizing him for her overall security.

    Strike “at the expense”, insert “with the added benefit” [1].

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Karen Straughan,
    “The tyranny of female hypoagency”

    • Agree: secondElijah, Harbinger
  167. @AaronB

    It needs to “descend into the valley again – to die a sort of death, and discover that survival is not so important, and rediscover that life is a game played by a child (Heraclitus, the dark philosopher). This is true in the individuals life too – “you must lose your life to gain it”. You must cease caring about survival, and die in life. Then you live best.

    That’s really the only way to live, and by “live” I mean “continue breathing”. Reason is simple: you can’t execute a minimax strategy when one of the outcomes is has a value of infinity (plus or minus). You are confined to one strategy, which you tend to keep blindly to avoid the “minus infinity” outcome, and once that happens you’ve lost. If nothing else, the nature of the game will be changed by your opponent, who will conceal the change and permit you to pursue what is now a negative sum strategy, unable to observe reality because you are terrified by the infinite loss.
    Consider the blind loyalty of the US public to the US Federal Government during the 1950s because of the possible “end of the world” outcome of WW III. During that time, the Federal Government continued to re-make US society without any serious debate or questions or, for that mater, without the public really noticing.

    The descent into the valley is also, on a societal level, what we’re seeing. The side that is grimly determined to arrest the deterioration of the cities is not playing around, and that’s a weakness.

    Of course, what’s on the other side of the valley isn’t always so wonderful. The Australian Aborigines traded a society with a fairly large tool set for physiological adaptation to the Australian climate. Descending into the valley and trusting that the outcome will favor anything you care about is trusting too much. Still, it’s not as if we have a choice just now.

    Counterinsurgency

  168. One of the huge failures of the article [1] is the idea that the establishment favors genociding the West’s population because the population pushed for WW I and WW II and the Cold War. Nope. It was the West’s political establishment, the ancestors of the “genocide the deplorables” bunch, who plotted and pushed for the World Wars and for the Cold War. The sin of the “deplorables” was in supporting their political leadership. The same political leadership that is now trying to genocide the deplorables.

    So: instead of “the West” being responsible for the World Wars, the _leadership_ of the West was responsible. Not just some of the leadership, either, but even the anti-establishment of the Communists and the Left in general, who favored a revolution that they thought would lead to general war of the “capitalist nations” against the new revolutionary states. [2]

    So: suggest extreme skepticism that the political establishment is trying to do more than remain in power (note phrase “in power” rather than “in office”). The general population, world wide, has been pacifist ever since the end of WW I, at least before war (even small wars) began.

    Amazing how a whopper can be introduced casually and not be noticed. It took me a good 24 hours to see this one.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] http://www.unz.com/article/hitlers-revenge-the-return-of-the-strong-gods-and-the-resurrection-of-the-west/#comment-3537421

    2] Suvorov, “The Chief Culprit”

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  169. What Burnham called “taboos, magic, superstition, personified abstractions, myths, gods”—Reno’s “Strong Gods”—are necessary, in his view, because they work. He goes so far as to say Athens was “probably right” to condemn Socrates “from the point of view of survival.”

    So God is necessary because he works? A pragmatic justification for metaphysics? It seems that our friend, Mr. Reno, doesn’t so much believe, as ‘believe in belief’. At bottom, that’s a pretty lukewarm defense of Christianity, and the fact that that’s the best defense that so many of our conservative theorists can give it is simply more proof that Christianity doesn’t work anymore.

  170. jhan says:
    @Bert

    I just think a ‘warrior ethos’ also needs tactics to handle situations in which you are the weaker party.
    Islam is for instance a conquering religion but also offers its adherence effective rules to live by if you are a minority.

    Another thing is that it also has to appeal to women. It can not be just a bunch of men being macho and strong, on their own. That has no future because it doesn’t reproduce.

  171. utu says:
    @Poco

    The Jews finished off the career of Richard Burton because he dared to look into the allegations of human sacrifice by some Jewish sect in Syria where he was a British Consul in Damascus.

    “The book The Jew, the Gipsy and el Islam was published posthumously in 1898 and was controversial for its criticism of Jews and for its assertion of the existence of Jewish human sacrifices. (Burton’s investigations into this had provoked hostility from the Jewish population in Damascus (see the Damascus affair)). The manuscript of the book included an appendix discussing the topic in more detail, but by the decision of his widow, it was not included in the book when published)”. – Wiki

    He also wrote a book “Human Sacrifice among the Sephardine or Eastern Jews” which manuscript however was preemptively purchased by some Jews of UK in the early 20th century because
    the British Jews feared that publication of it would arouse antisemitic feelings. Then in 2001 the Board of Deputies of British Jews was trying to auction it for 200,000 pounds sterling. But the auction failed to sell it. Possibly it was rigged.

    https://www.jweekly.com/2001/06/08/controversial-sale-of-anti-semitic-book-falls-through/
    The board’s decision to auction the manuscript, “Human Sacrifice Among the Sephardine or Eastern Jews,” by the 19th-century explorer Sir Richard Burton, provoked a furious reaction from leading members of Britain’s Jewish community.

    Lord Greville Janner, a former president of the board, said it was “immoral to propagate pornography — and this is worse than pornography.”

    He called the decision to “seek to sell a viciously anti-Semitic document,” a “grotesque error.”

    The board decided to sell the manuscript in part to raise much-needed funds, said Sandra Clark, its administrative director.

    The estimated sale price of the manuscript was $210,000 to $280,000, but the top bid was $196,000, less than the prearranged minimum price.

    Janner described the result as “the worst of both worlds — the contents of this disgraceful document have been publicized, and the board has not raised the resources it needs.”

    He was not the only one upset by the attempted sale.

    One London rabbi suggested that his congregation raise money to buy the book to keep it out of the hands of anti-Semites.

    Sephardic deputies on the board were “shocked and surprised” at not having been consulted about the sale, and some compared it to online auctions of Nazi memorabilia.

    So we won’t know what Burton found out for about blood sacrifice for another 100 years or so until again the Board of Deputies of British Jews may get greedy and tries to raise some money.

    Vanishing of manuscripts and or tampering with them is not a new thing. Forgery of historical documents is as old as historiography but I would not be surprised if Jews turned out to be very prominent in this shady business particularly when it concerned Jewish affairs. I have heard that memoirs from Holocaust often were altered (like Calel Perechodnik or Emanuel Ringelblum).

    • Agree: Poco
  172. @Counterinsurgency

    Is it “the West’s leadership”? Or the “Deep State”? Or simply the (secular) Jews, who favor globalism, feminism, gay rights, secularism, multiculturalism, and sexual modernity and seem to have a knack for changing the world?

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  173. Exile says:

    For those of us who would like to build an ark on which Christianity could escape its present currents of multicultural kumbaya, open borders fanaticism (and rank profiteering) and servile Zionist dispensationalism, “First Things” guys like Reno may as well be working for our enemies.

    The watered-down papblum of propositional faith, divorced from ethnos, shared culture, language and extensive history, cannot serve to glue a nation together. The paens to “love” somehow finding a way are just poetic faery-castles. We love our tribes – we don”t love the Other no matter what his creed.

  174. Malacaay says:

    There is no revival for Anglo criminal. Anglo has been devastating the world for centuries. After invasion of Norte America by Anglo criminal and subsequent genocide of the real American people (referred to as “Indians” by the Anglo), invasions of Africa and enslavement of Afros, then invasions of Asia and economic exploitation of Asian people, world wars and occupation of Europa, economic parasitism via usd reserve currency and its forced usage everywhere, then spread of liberal cultural colonization and its social degeneration, then millions of dead in post WW2 invasions of small countries around the world that wouldn’t listen to Anglo dictates… now Anglo wishes its revival. Resurrection. But the world wants your dissolution and end.

    You are a major parasite on the world, sucking in 1/3 of world’s resources to greedily devour all the while sitting on 2 continents which have been for the most part relieved from its natural resources while their native inhabitants were “freed”from their lives. That parasitic financial thread is the only thing left. Everything else has already ended. Materialistic arrangement based on exploitation of resources and labor which moronic, ravenous, materialistic westerling has come to call “civilization” cannot continue. Energy source is in the process of ending too, and when it’s gone… well, that when real fun starts. It’s probably going to look like the age before industrial revolution. Or something similar. Foul materialistic liberal westerling has devoured everything on its path. Such ruinous, devastating mammal this particular bipedal is. It’s resembling a plague a lot. Run by insatiable lust and ravenous greed, that bipedal mammal has set itself on a path of eradicating vast majority of the planet’s lifeforms as well as almost all of resources to power its comforting mod of life. And it doesn’t see anything wrong with all that; in fact, it wants moar; and it also has desires to corrupt everyone to its ruinous, catastrophic materialistic ways.

  175. The World Wars I and II Reno writes, “evoked a powerful, American-led response that was anti-fascist, anti-totalitarian, anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, and anti-racist.” These imperatives “define[d] the postwar era.” The wars were retconned: we ultimately fought against our own inner fascist. To ensure “Never Again,” Western intellectuals and politicians decided that we must attack the “closed society” of strong loyalties and accepted truths.

    Some would say that totalitarianism and imperialism have never disappeared. They have morphed into a system of economic imperialism and corporate fascism otherwise known as AngloZionism. The counter revolutionary “open society” is actually the “deconstructed society” – fragmented, atomized and degenerate and therefore easily controlled. Both systems are ruled by an oligarchical elite who use either “strong gods” or “weak gods” as control mechanisms. We are not free. We are all in the matrix.

    Institutionalized Christianity has been shown to be utterly corrupt and will save no one. Only a true spiritual awakening and repentance can save us now. God is showing us that we cannot save ourselves. We never could. Our nature is corrupt and we carry the seeds of our own destruction.

    The nature of Man is being revealed in all its “glory” (666). What comes next is the failure of everything. Economic collapse, societal collapse and natural disaster. Man without God is like the beast that perishes. That lesson is about to be rammed home. If God does not exist then what awaits us is hell on earth (of our own making).

  176. Malacaay says:
    @Miro23

    Austria is part of Germany, a province or a region. It overwhelmingly voted to join Germany.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Austrian_Anschluss_referendum

    99% voted for unification. Try respecting that clown.

  177. Malacaay says:
    @Cyrano

    It wasn’t socialism. There is no private property over resources and industry, i.e. means of production, in socialism. In Hitler’s Germany everything I believe was privately owned. That is no socialism. Socialism by definition means state ownership over means of production. Hitler Germany was a capitalist exploitation plant which was even using slave labor. Euros love misnomers. Europeans in America even more so. Everything in Murica is a lie: Land of the free. Home of the brave. American dream. Justice is blind. The press is free. Business is honest.

    • Agree: Cyrano
    • Replies: @Alexandros
  178. Bookish1 says:
    @Cyrano

    Hitlers National Socialism phony? Through Hitlers National Socialist leadership Germany was the greatest success story in the history of the world. Germany went from a great depression worse than ours to 100% full employment in less than 3 years under Hitlers leadership.

  179. Durruti says:
    @Avery

    Nobody is to blame for leaving Germany in ashes and its subsequent subjugation, neutering, and occupation by the US – but Hitler and his Nazi goons.

    But Hitler, being the messianic megalomaniac that he was with an insatiable appetite, was not satisfied with the tasty morsels he had swallowed, and decided to bite bigger and bigger chunks – and choked on them.

    Nice concise rendering of the traditional/official/approved viewpoint of the German/Nazi/Hitler guilt for starting WW II.

    This view is accurate, as far as the actions of Hitler & his Nazis are recorded. However, we must ask, why did the Nazis give all their gains away, and insist on fighting the SAME ALLIANCE that had overwhelmed and defeated them in a quite recent (20 years earlier), conflict? They had made huge territorial gains-without war. Can they have forgotten the lessons of only 1 generation earlier?

    Why did Germans blow (as we say), all those gains? Why did they fail to learn the lessons of their defeat in WW I? The clue you have already provided.

    Hitler (stupidly) declared war on the US, after its ally Imperial Japan’s attack on US Navy at Pearl Harbor and Japan’s subsequent declaration of war on US.

    Note: Italy’s dictator, Mussolini, and his Fascisti also made the same mistake. The Italian fascists, who could not defeat an underdeveloped nation of 8 million people (Greece), also declared war on the United States (the richest & most powerful nation on earth).. Without these seemingly “stupidly” mistakes, it would have been difficult for Roosevelt to make war on Germany, or Italy. After all, he already was at war with Japan-in the Asia-Pacific portion of the planet.

    In order to answer the question of WHY?, if we can explain the ‘stupid’ we are forced to consider the true causes of the phenominal bloodletting of WWs I, & II.

    Why was France’s Juarés assassinated, & America’s Debs imprisoned (and his anti-imperialist Socialist Party – ruthlessly dismembered -6,000 members deported without trial, by Atty General Palmer (a Democrap)? By WW II, independent Political Parties (free from whose control?) had ceased to exist. The last independent Anarchists (Durruti’s Anarchists), had been dispersed in Spain, with their leader dead in battle-1936.

    Stupid, or pre-programmed? How is history? What is the story?

    My point is – that there is much blame to go around. The peoples of the major world powers, from Europe to Asia were to enter 2 World Wars, with combined casualties in excess of 100 million, and from which Humanity has yet to recover.

    In 2019, We The People continue being led around by the nose. Our minds and our bodies are not our own. We are Slaves!

    But, The Spark Exists. This Forum is proof of that!

    God Bless!

    Durruti

    • Replies: @Simpleguest
  180. Malacaay says:
    @AaronB

    Advocating miscegenation, hmm, Jew? No wonder they all want to exterminate you. If a Jew came to our land and advocated death and destruction of my race, I would seek to exterminate Jew too. Mulat race is not a “renewal” of Caucasian race, it’s a new race altogether, Jew. World is sick of your degenerations and lies, as you can witness on these pages too. Why do you think your kind was expelled from everywhere on the planet that was stupid enough to let you in, hmm? It started more than 2.000 years ago. Jew was never any good. It is universal conclusion and judgement passed by all people as demonstrated with those expulsions from everywhere around the world Jews started interfering in social and economic fabric of people. Interfering with someone’s biological distinctiveness carries death penalty. You are advocating for their death, as that is what the end of someone biological distinctiveness means and brings. The only righteous thing is to call for your destruction. An eye for an eye. I am sure your kind understands this primal moral code well.

  181. Harbinger says:
    @nokangaroos

    Your welcome, but more and more people are beginning to understand that history is full of lies and deception especially when it comes to Hitler and the third reich.

    I completely agree. The Treaty of Versailles, essentially created WW2 and it was only a matter of time. And yes, as stated, WW2 was started by the bankers. Any national, had they been in charge of their land at the time (US, UK, France) would have seen the threat that Russia and communism posed to the world. Essentially the British and Americans were lied to about the causes of going to war and had they known that Hitler, in fact promoted their values of life and the survival of the European peoples and their civilisation and Russia the complete opposite, they’d never have gone to war.
    Here in the UK, when the armed forces came home, they had nothing, even though Churchill had promoted the ‘land of milk and honey’ and ‘jobs for all’. They came back to the west Indian invasion and “blacks doing the jobs British people wouldn’t’ rhetoric. This was when the National Front was created, not as hatred towards blacks (as the public were conveniently lied about) but to protect the indigenous from the lying politicians and give them a voice.

    Here’s the thing, I’m not a national socialist. I vehemently disagree in anyone enforcing their authority over another, without their given consent. I do not believe in a state for as we have seen, it can be infiltrated, controlled and used to oppress the people. However, for the time in Germany and the problem with communist Jews, the rise of Hitler and the draconian measures implemented, I understand there was no other choice, that is for the survival of the German people, the Jews wanted to extinguish from this earth.
    I am, what one would call an anarcho-nationalist. I also try to stay out of identity politics although I will admit we have a huge problem with non white immigration into the west that needs to be reversed.

    Finally, the exposing of the lies about Hitler and the third reich, along with the holobollox and allied war crimes is vital to waking people up and understanding history and what it was really all about. This is the Jews’ Achilles heel.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @Carolyn Yeager
  182. Malacaay says:
    @anon

    First of all, try educating yourself. I know public schools in Murica are bad, but still you have the net and you must have had some literature in the schools from which you could learn, so your fundamental ignorance which is on display here is not something excusable. When you say Mediterranean, it refers to us: inhabitants of 3 peninsulae: Haemus Mons, Apennine and Iberian peninsulae. Semites of the Levantine civilizations never belonged to us or our world. We are of Greco-Roman civilization. Greek and Roman, not Levantine. Comprendo? Phoenicians you mentioned were Semites who left westward toward Carthage and settled there, and thankfully they were destroyed later on. We have nothing in common with Semites, for we are not Semites. You would do well to remember that. Those civilizations you are invoking when mentioning beginning of “yours” are from our world. The worse thing that ever happened was letting peasants from western europa into Norte American continent. You are the worse thing which ever happened to that part of the world and indeed to world overall.

  183. Wally says:
    @Robjil

    said:
    “The big 6 was shown to be not so bad by Vicky Nuland. She, Jewish American, used Neo-Nazism to take over Ukraine for Zion US interests.”

    – The mere fact that Israel actually arms these so called “neo-Nazis is further proof that the “holocaust” is fake.

    said:
    “Nine eleven is the big one. It was a Israel first deed. This deed proves beyond doubt that Israel firsters are not saints.”

    – It’s big alright, but cannot compare to the effect of the impossible claim of ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    – The fake “holocaust” is used to silence discussion of the Israeli hand in 9/11, and is used to silence any criticism of leftist policies and the horrific actions of Zionists It provides support, as false as it is, for labeling someone a ‘Nazi’.
    The fake & impossible “holocaust” is the great enabler for the destruction of The West

  184. Bookish1 says:
    @Harbinger

    In other words once the truth comes out about the holocaust lie and the lies and distortions about ww2 the post war Jewish world order will collapse. In that case it is collapsing right now as we sit here reading this because facts and information available now to the general public are so much greater than they were even 20 years ago. I can see why Jews are in a mad and desperate rush to control the internet. But the truth about the holocaust lie and who started ww2 and why we fought on the wrong side and the fatal results of that mistake will one day be common knowledge. What I am afraid of is it will take human suffering to jolt people’s minds into reality.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  185. “Western intellectuals and politicians decided”-
    lets make that statement a true-fact:
    Jewish leadership and authority decided, conveying their wishes to the Goyim Puppet leaders.

  186. Malacaay says:

    I should have added Anatolia when mentioning our Mediterranean civilization. All those civilizations and realms which predate Greek one from Anatolia belong to us. Troy for example is our Mediterranean ancient realm, just like Bythinia, Lydia, Paphlagopnia, Cappadochia, Caria, Galatia, Cilica, Lycia, Lycaonia.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  187. @Cleburne

    What I’m ‘suggesting’ is that ‘Durruti’, who is an admitted anarchist and a Belgian whose father and uncles fought for the communist cause in WW2 against Germany, cannot be an impartial judge of Adolf Hitler and he also cannot appreciate Hitler’s life and accomplishments for his people as seen by his people. For anyone whose Weltansschaung does not jive with his, ‘Durruti’s’ words are empty of meaning or weight. That doesn’t mean non-Germans can’t criticize Hitler, but they should be intelligent and scrupulously accurate about it. Most, including even historians, are not.

    • Replies: @KenH
  188. S says:
    @Bert

    The Germanics are in no ways perfect, no one is, but yes, there is a strong honesty streak amongst them. [Some might argue even a bit excessively honest at times.]

    Witness the case of seventeen year old Juliane Koepcke, of German parentage, who in December, 1971, was the sole survivor of LANSA flight 508 carrying 92 passengers and crew. The Peruvian airliner disintegrated mid flight in what is thought to be the single most deadly lightning strike in aviation history. While still strapped to her seat she fell almost two miles to the jungle below, and amazingly survived.

    Finding some running water, wisely she followed it downstream, hoping to find a human settlement. For a week and a half and surviving only on a bag of candy and river water, she made her way with no luck. Until finally…

    After ten days, she found a boat moored near a shelter, and found the boat’s fuel tank still partly full….’I didn’t want to take the boat because I didn’t want to steal it’.

    Though intending to move on Koepcke stayed the night inside the small fisherman’s shelter there and with the boat. On the morning of the eleventh day after the plane crash locals from a nearby village discovered her and helped her back to civilization.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliane_Koepcke

  189. E_Perez says:
    @foobc1

    He did use Aryan … for Germanic people

    Nope.
    The concept of ‘Aryan’ was never limited to Germanic people in any NS publication, it always meant ‘people of European descent’: Slavic, Mediterranean, Scandinavian, British, French, Germanic, all.

    Germans were not considered a race, but part of the Aryan race.

  190. anon[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    nope the mayority of german/duch americans were low middle class peasants only anglos sent a sustancial upper middle class to the united states like spaniards probably did in south america.
    https://akarlin.com/2012/07/hamburgers-and-rednecks-iq-estimates-of-us-ethnic-groups/

    • Replies: @Alden
  191. anon[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    AaronB wept for there were no more worlds to plunder, subvert, destroy.

  192. Harbinger says:
    @Bookish1

    “In other words once the truth comes out about the holocaust lie and the lies and distortions about ww2 the post war Jewish world order will collapse. In that case it is collapsing right now as we sit here reading this because facts and information available now to the general public are so much greater than they were even 20 years ago.”

    I wouldn’t say collapsing, more the paint’s beginning to peel. It’ll take a hell of a lot more people, waking up to the lies of history before anything starts to collapse.

    “I can see why Jews are in a mad and desperate rush to control the internet.”

    Precisely. Here in the UK, the vile Labour politician, Yvette Cooper, wife of the equally vile Ed Balls (who served under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown) tried to implement policy that would imprison anyone, who viewed right wing websites on the internet. She proposed 15 years. Yes, this evil witch wanted to put people in prison, for longer than your average murderer for reading a website that had a contrary view to the official, state narrative of current and historical events. She was also responsible for getting Red Ice’s YouTube channel, the excellent Swedish team of Lana Lokteff (American/Russian) and her husband Henrik Palmgren (Swedish) shut down, all because they attacked those responsible for much of what is wrong with western civilisation today. Absolutely no hate in their channel whatsoever, but because it told the truth, it had to go. And you guessed it, under hate speech.
    But I digress…..
    The Jews want the internet completely under their control because it’s exposing lie after lie of history, painting Jews in their true colours, not as the persecuted, but the persecutors and the truly evil, synagogue cult or racism and ethnocentric supremacism, even though they aren’t a race, but identify as.

    “But the truth about the holocaust lie and who started ww2 and why we fought on the wrong side and the fatal results of that mistake will one day be common knowledge. What I am afraid of is it will take human suffering to jolt people’s minds into reality.”

    Will it?
    Will it manage to become common knowledge, or will the Jews manage to completely delete history and utterly indoctrinate the younger generations to actually believe they are sub-humans, on this earth to serve the Jews? This really is the question?
    Sure, I reckon that if 30% of the population, at least wake up to the lies and actively start serious uncivil unrest, then we have a very good chance of destroying the Jewish World Order. However, that would really have to happen in the 10-20 years. If it doesn’t happen, then the utter indoctrination of the young, added to that more immigration and more immigration procreation, then you can really kiss goodbye to the west. Remember, I’m in the UK and this plan will be going on throughout most of Europe and the USA. I’d hate to see what the white hatred will be like in the USA in 10 years time, let alone 20.

    And finally yes, you are correct to be afraid because the waking up of people into reality will result in a horrific death toll. The Jewish parasite, firmly lodged within the very heart of every establishment within the west will not give up without a fight. It’s not a case of “that’s a fair cop, you won, we surrender.” Hell no! They’ll probably attempt a scorched earth policy, not just with nukes and ordering of armed forces and police to go out and kill, but also overloading the water and food supplies with deadly poisons when they see a deadly threat to their authoritarian positions.

    Jews and the upper classes do not look at us, as fellow human beings. We are cattle. We are there to work for them, make them money and to do as we’re told. We are not allowed to challenge their authority and remove them from power. We are their slaves and we have to learn to be obedient slaves or there’s no place for us, in their world. Seriously, they look upon us as vermin, no differently to how a farmer looks at a rabbit eating his crops or a wolf his sheep. There is no compassion, no empathy, no sympathy, no care, whatsoever for any of us. The elites and the Jews are where they are through generational wealth and NO ONE will ever threaten to destroy this and their children from continuing on where they left off.

  193. @Harbinger

    Harbinger – I have been reading some of your comments expressing contradictory positions and confused thinking. You’re schizophrenic just like most of your countrymen.

    You say “I’m not a national socialist. I vehemently disagree in anyone enforcing their authority over another, without their given consent.”
    You say, “I do not believe in a state for as we have seen, it can be infiltrated, controlled and used to oppress the people.”

    At the same time, you say “There was no other choice, [because of ] the problem with communist Jews, that is for the survival of the German people … than the draconian measures implemented by Hitler.” So how do you think the same problem with communist [globalist, internationalist, open borders] Jews will not continue without strong authoritarian leadership to prevent it? How can “no one enforcing their authority over another without their given consent” work to guarantee the continuing survival of the Western people? You have no answer.

    You call yourself an anarcho-nationalist, whatever that is. And say you “try to stay out of identity politics although I will admit we have a huge problem with non white immigration into the west that needs to be reversed.” How is that going to be reversed by your preferred anarcho-way of going about things? You can’t answer that because it never will.

    You must think you can educate the masses to the point that they will agree with your view of things. But in the state of freedom you desire, there will always be those educating in the opposite direction. THAT is what freedom means. Therefore, it’s foolish to say “I oppose what Hitler stood for, but I acknowledge that only that can save us.”

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  194. @AaronB
    White elites seem to have an instinct that the old European race is exhausted and even if it can continue in the old way perfectly fine, it’s not coming up with anything new.

    More emotional meandering that ignores data. The vast majority of medical advancements still come from the US and Germany.

    If mixed blood was everything then South America should be the technological powerhouse. They do have half a billion people after all. Canada exports more software than Brazil and their population is around that of California while far less mixed.

    This is also a problem for the libertarian cult. They can’t explain why Canada with its higher levels of government spending has a higher standard of living relative to the rest of the continent. Hmm gee whiz maybe Rand didn’t know what the hell she was talking about. Even in her time this belief that progress only requires capitalism didn’t make sense.

  195. Stalin did NOT “invaded Poland the same time as Hitler.” What I have read was that the Russians came in to Poland, AFTER the Germans began their march on Warsaw. Comparing Hitler to Stalin, is not a good defense of the German Dictator.

    The time is actually irrelevant because both had agreed beforehand to split Poland. It’s not as if Stalin was surprised and then decided to invade after Hitler.

    There is definitely hypocrisy on the side of the Allies for claiming to liberate Europe and then leaving half of it to the Soviets.

    But the idea being suggested here that Hitler was forced to attack Poland is a joke. Was he also forced to bomb non-military targets?

  196. Harbinger says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    “Harbinger – I have been reading some of your comments expressing contradictory positions and confused thinking. You’re schizophrenic just like most of your countrymen.”

    Well then, I suppose I’m just a confused, contradictory, schizophrenic like my fellow countrymen.
    Have a nice day, or maybe not……..

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  197. dfordoom says: • Website
    @animalogic

    A return to Christianity? Pure delusion. Symptomatic of a loss of ideas.

    Sad but true. It’s wishful thinking. Christianity may have been a wonderful thing but it’s finished.

    Modern Christianity is more of a hindrance than a help. Modern Christianity is liberalism with a fake spiritual gloss. It’s decadent and destructive. There’s no way it can be revived or fixed.

    Thirdly, Socialism. Parts of an economy need to be owned/controlled by a government of the people. Other parts are better left to private individuals.

    Agreed. It’s not only a good idea but almost certainly a popular idea. I suspect that a significant majority of the population wants a welfare state and some degree of Socialism Lite. If you want to unify a society it’s not a bad idea to pick a unifying idea that people actually like and will actually support.

    A Christian revival, feral free-market capitalism, libertarianism – these are ideas that only appeal to very small minorities. They are divisive rather than unifying ideas.

    Fourthly, socialism in one country is inadequate — economic justice must be extended to poorer (or all) countries.

    You can certainly make a good argument for that concept. If you want to oppose open borders it’s hard to see how you can do it without offering poorer countries a better deal. The difficulty in opposing open borders is that open borders sounds fair and just and moral. So you need an alternative that also sounds fair and just and moral.

  198. tac says:
    @Durruti

    Agree that we may agree on some things, others not as much, but your thoughts are much appreciated. Let’s just simplify the answer to your question: “Hitler was an agent” ….

    If, so why go through all the trouble of resuscitating Germany’s financial woes–and in doing so, only to become one of the most affluent in Europe, when most of the rest of the “Western” world was facing an (((engineered))) depression? There is NO answer to this question that can also stand with your stated idea that Hitler was an agent….he was no such thing!!!

    Furthermore I’ll add this to your rightful idea of JFK….how do you ignore what JFK said of Hitler himself:

    Kennedy, then 28, predicted “Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived”.

    “He had in him the stuff of which legends are made,” he continued.

    Kennedy wrote the entry in the summer of 1945 after touring the German dictator’s Bavarian mountain retreat.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39371715

    JKF had it right at that time….Hitler will emerge, at some point, to take his place amogst the giants of the 20th Century (after all he came from the stock of his own common peoples–this is where leaders should be chosen–)unlike anything offered as a “leader” in today’s politics….wow, same old script at play: planting a false choice of shabbot goyim (who are ALL compromised) and to lead the unaware populace to “believe” this time it is different.

    No, Hitler was and still is a testament to radical rethinking and his many speeches not only show his dedicating to his peoples, but actionable results as such. When has the so-called West ever since that time seem a National Socialist dedicated to the cause of his nation? The tangible proof is found in Hitler’s Third Reich–and NONE other since that time!

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  199. anon[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    they are right “whites” are racially desactualized to face the modern multiracial world ,is evident that as a people we need the infusion of new blood but instead of degrading it even further under the patronage of the NWO betraying our rootst we need to purificate ourself in other words to aryanize ourselfs to bring a new golden age throw technology .
    all the problem we face today are precisely because we are the last line of bastardization of the original aryans , in places like greece and south italy where the bastardization is nearly total should serve us as a cautionary tail of what could happen to us if we follow their stepps .

    we are in the same postion ancient hebrews were 2000 years ago, some decided to abandon their roots and fuse with the rest of the mediterranean world embracing cristianity and some perdured in their ethnocentic fanatic mision embracing judaism , probably we will lose the mayority of our people in the comming centuries but some will endure and carry the torch of the aryans to a new golden age .
    a curious thing i noticed is how prevalent ethnic europeans are in every research asociated with genetics mendel,doudna,posthuma,watson….. more or less like jews were in the manhattan proyect and the development of the atomic bomb it seem there is some strong invisible force or the intuition and secret desires leading us to do this research building the way for the arrival of the ubermench and the purification of the aryan race , not all europeans have lost the will to power it seem.

    this is the last text for the aryan race to proof his holliness

  200. The Strong Gods Reject The Mass Immigration Multicultural Mayhem Of Pope Tango

    Pope Tango is a demonic nation-wrecker who pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and multicultural mayhem.

    The strong Gods of White Core America will sweep away the evil scum that has infiltrated and infested the Catholic Church.

    The strong Gods of White Core America will remove from power the evil treasonites in the Protestant churches who push mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and multicultural mayhem.

    Tweet from 2015:

  201. @Anaccount
    There is no doubt that various sects of Christianity have served as protective measures but not all. Do I need to mention all the quaker faggotry in this country and the harm it has done?

    The problem that many of you are ignoring is that Whites don’t simply switch to some form of paganism when you remove Christianity.

    What they do is switch to liberalism or other globalist philosophies like libertarianism and often with even greater religious zeal. Liberals have spent decades refining their controlled discourse and are experts at converting college students to their cause which then gives them control of future leaders. Simple questions about liberal assumptions easily befuddle and anger them as seen in open debate on the internet but most Whites are still unable to see through liberalism and the data supports this assertion.

    Some of the most secular areas of the US are heavily liberal and are not only reliable Democrat voters but will happily vote in far-left loonies that are even further disconnected from reality. Those Whites did not become critical thinking pagans after leaving Christianity. Southern California is a good example where secular Whites politicians first blamed other Whites for racial gaps in education and then after spending billions on liberal theories they basically stopped reporting the data for each school. So even after their theories didn’t work they decided to censor the results instead of re-thinking their assumptions or trying new theories.

    I’m not a fan of “feel good” trend chasing modern protestant churches but I suspect the real issue is the corrupting influence of liberalism within all organizations and the lack of opposition. The conservatives in the US and Europe don’t challenge the core components of liberalism as they are afraid of what will transpire and are still holding out for some Randian fantasy where Africa starts building space ships after we kick out the reds.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @anaccount
  202. Bookish1 [AKA "rochester"] says:
    @tac

    I will take that a bit further about Hitler. Under the definition of prophet Hitler was a prophet since he predicted many things that came true. For instance Hitler predicted that after WW2 ended England would not be able to put up a resistance to communism. One could argue that Hitler inspired divine revelations because he saw the western governments were not ruling according to natures laws. And it was the secret to Germany’s great success that Hitler ordered the German nation in accordance with natures laws. That is why Germany was able to recover so quickly and become the great nation that they became. But like all great prophets in history Hitler is misunderstood, vilified, rejected, hated, with his followers being persecuted and outcasts of society and like all great prophets it will take a century or much longer for people to recognize his greatness.

    • Replies: @anon
  203. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Harbinger

    My view of society is simply – one without rule and rulers – anarchy. But you see, women wouldn’t really do well in an anarchy would they?

    No-one would do well in an anarchy, except perhaps a few criminals and thugs. And perhaps some very rich mega-corporations. Even they might not survive without their own private armies.

    You might want to read up on the warlord period in China. That’s what no government leads to.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  204. @Harbinger

    Obviously you cannot answer the questions and conundrums put to you, so you take this cheap way out, hoping to save face by being ‘offended.’ It might work with some, but not all. Let’s hope you can grow up.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  205. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Bookish1

    What is going to happen is whites are going to expel all non whites from Europe.

    A nice dream. But that’s all it is.

    Dreams don’t last very long in the real world. You need practical pragmatic policies. But that’s hard work. Dreams are easy.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  206. anon[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bookish1

    this hitler was right about nearly everything

  207. Harbinger says:
    @dfordoom

    The concept of anarchy is simply without rule and rulers.
    The Jews would not survive in an anarchy. No police. No armed forces. No paedophiles…..When you look at life on this earth, this is how we all essentially started out. Anarchy developed into society, which developed into Feudalism, into a democracy and now into a plutocracy and if we don’t stop it, a globalist state, completely controlled by Jews.

    There is absolutely no reason why anarchy cannot be peaceful, but then it will never be looked upon as such because anarchy is the nemesis of any would be ruler.

  208. Harbinger says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    I can very well answer the questions, however, Miss/Mrs Yeager the great thing about living in a society, that is built upon freedoms is I have the freedom to choose to or not to engage in debate with you. I have chosen the latter in this instance, simply because respect isn’t one of your strong points. I suggest showing some, next time you choose to initiate a debate with another.

  209. @Durruti

    “Why did Germans blow (as we say), all those gains? Why did they fail to learn the lessons of their defeat in WW I?….”

    They didn’t.
    You are conveniently forgetting that prior to attacking the Soviet Union (aka 2nd front), Germany had defeated and occupied France and forced Great Britain our of the continent.
    So, they obviously must have thought they had done it properly the 2nd time.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  210. @Anonymous

    I assumed @Sally was satire.

  211. Seraphim says:
    @John Johnson

    Is it ‘anaccount’ or ‘ana cunt’? It seems that the person really think with that anatomical part.

    • Replies: @anaccount
  212. Charlie Kirk=filthy fucking cockroach

    Rob Smith=filthy fucking cockroach

    Charlie Kirk and Rob Smith=Filthy Fucking Cockroach Breeding Pair=Conservatism Inc

  213. Alden says:
    @anon

    The very best of the Anglos were prosperous middle class tradesmen and farmers. Consensus of historians is that about 65/68% of all colonial era ENGLISH settlers were indentured servants and convicts.

    English, not counting Scots and Irish.

    The most aristocratic colonial group were the Hudson Valley Dutch Patroon landowners who kept their tenants in a state of serfdom till after the revolution.

    Tobacco and rice transformed many southern prosperous farmers into upper class within a generation or two.

  214. Bookish1 says:
    @dfordoom

    No dream. If I didn’t have have some imperial perception along with instinctive feelings for what white nations populations are feeling I wouldn’t post about expelling immigrants. Imperically I see the aDF in Germany making big gains and the like movements in other white nations growing fast. I know that the silent majority in all white nations want the immigrants shipped out. It is only the slimy politicians who are doing the dirty work for the Jews that support immigration. Ten years from now a politician wouldn’t dare support immigration or he would lose his head. I am tuned in to the will of the people my main focus in life is on the survival of who I call my people.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Bookish1
  215. through the Christian religion, the West avoided destruction and disintegration

    And now, through the same religion, the West allows them. What do you know, this Jesus guy is like a multi-use Swiss jacknife.

  216. Durruti says:
    @Simpleguest

    You are conveniently forgetting that prior to attacking the Soviet Union (aka 2nd front), Germany had defeated and occupied France and forced Great Britain our of the continent.
    So, they obviously must have thought they had done it properly the 2nd time.

    Your Handle says it all: JUST KIDDING!!

    You may recall that the war, WW II was not ended in 1940, after Germany occupied France & chased the BEF back to Britain. The war continued for another 4 years. At the end, Germany, laid in ruins (Russia, SE Europe, London, also suffered significant damage). But Germany lay in RUINS.

    The Germans, Hitler & his Nazis, had not won. The military events of 1940 were just the opening salvoes, the first innings (to use a Baseball metaphor) of the Greatest Conflict of our time. Hitler’s Nazis were not able to defeat Britain, only to win some early battles. Then, with Britain undefeated, and receiving increasing help from the USA ($$, supplies, Destroyers, etc,), Hitler and his Generals, nevertheless, decided to open a SECOND FRONT. Such ‘Brilliance’. They began by flattening SE Europe (Yugoslavia, and Greece), and then, attempted Barbarossa (the invasion of Russia). And we know how that turned out.

    No, Simpleguest, I would not wish Hitler, or his Nazis, (or Mussolini), to be my leaders. Unfortunately, in 2019, the Rothschilds & other Zionist oligarchs, and some others, the Duponts, Rockefellers, etc., and a long list of their political puppets have displayed more staying power. They win most of their wars (with a few exceptions). Their invasion of Grenada was quite an achievement-but I digress.

    I hope I have been of help. If I have, let me know & I’ll send Ron Unz the Bill.

    Give me an Old Time Republic, with a JF Kennedy, a Ron Paul, a Jesse Ventura, a Cindy McKinney, Ralph Nader, Mark Twain, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Tom Paine, and a few others I forget. They were not perfect-but neither am I.

    The United States of America: for Liberty & Justice for All.

    Durruti

    • Replies: @Simpleguest
  217. Bookish1 says:
    @Bookish1

    And by the way India favors the ADF which means the ADF is getting foreign moral support.

  218. Harbinger says:

    “No, Simpleguest, I would not wish Hitler, or his Nazis, (or Mussolini), to be my leaders. Unfortunately, in 2019, the Rothschilds & other Zionist oligarchs, and some others, the Duponts, Rockefellers, etc., and a long list of their political puppets have displayed more staying power. They win most of their wars (with a few exceptions).”

    Interesting Durruti.
    Interesting that you should choose to support the very mechanism that was responsible for taking the west to war against Germany, which resulted in the deaths of over 100million people.
    Here’s something that I strongly suggest you consider; had we in fact allied with Hitler the following would never have happened:

    [MORE]

    1. The horrific deathtoll of WW2.
    2. The subsequent and untold rape and murder of Germans after the war. (No Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden etc).
    3. The march of Russia into western Europe – so much for Poland eh?
    4. Korea.
    5. Establishment of Israel.
    6. Jews in control of the UK Parliament and banking (and every western one) so no race acts, created to destroy any indigenous fightback against the soon to be mass immigration of non Europeans into their lands.
    7. Kennedy assassination.
    8. Summer of Love and hippy movement.
    9. USS Liberty.
    10. Second wave feminism as no lesbian misandrists to bring it about.
    11. Vietnam.
    12. Mass immigration into the west from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Africa (Every rape/assault/death because of it).
    13. Iraq 1
    14. Yugoslavia
    15. WTC 1 bombing.
    16. 9/11
    17. Afghanistan.
    18. Iraq 2.
    19. 7/7/05
    20. European false flag attacks.
    21. Al Qauda/ISIS/IS/Daesh.
    22. Libya.
    23. Sudan.
    24. Syria.
    25. The rise of the LGBT.
    26. The rise of transgenderism.
    27. Basically everything Jews have been responsible for since WW2, that is the complete chaos they’ve instilled within the west up to today.

    Think of all the deaths, destruction, refugees created because of all the aforementioned? We’re talking hundreds upon hundreds of millions. All of that wouldn’t have happened had we destroyed Russia, removed the Jews from power and imprisoned them on some island, say Madagascar, or back in Russia.

    How on earth can you choose to back the globalists, the very people responsible for the chaos in the west, over someone who most certainly would not have allowed that to happen and wanted to create a European Union of sovereign nations instead of an E.U.S.S.R. we have today? Hitler was a national socialist, that is he was the nemesis of globalism (international socialism).

    • Agree: tac
    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Bookish1
  219. Seraphim says:
    @Malacaay

    The ‘Father of History’, Herodotus, writing “so that things done by man not be forgotten in time, and that great and marvelous deeds, some displayed by the Hellenes, some by the barbarians, not lose their glory, including among others what was the cause of their waging war on each other”, ascribed to the Phoenicians a south-eastern origin, more precisely in the regions of the Gulf and likely further away to Southern India.

    “The Persian learned men say that the Phoenicians were the cause of the dispute. These (they say) came to our seas from the sea which is called Red, and having settled in the country which they still occupy, at once began to make long voyages. Among other places to which they carried Egyptian and Assyrian merchandise, they came to Argos, which was at that time preeminent in every way among the people of what is now called Hellas. The Phoenicians came to Argos, and set out their cargo. On the fifth or sixth day after their arrival, when their wares were almost all sold, many women came to the shore and among them especially the daughter of the king, whose name was Io (according to Persians and Greeks alike), the daughter of Inachus. As these stood about the stern of the ship bargaining for the wares they liked, the Phoenicians incited one another to set upon them. Most of the women escaped: Io and others were seized and thrown into the ship, which then sailed away for Egypt…”

    The Biblical Canaanites are rather those Phoenicians, pirate-traders coming from India, dealing, among other trades, in slave trafficking and settled in what was Egyptian territories. The Hebrew tribes (the ‘House of Israel’, i.e. Jacob) were rather of Anatolian extraction and occupied Canaan most likely as the behest of the Egyptians.

    • Replies: @Malacaay
    , @Malacaay
  220. @Tusk

    Christianity ‘is’ the West. What you see around ‘is’ the post Christian west.

    Sacrifices to Moloch by elites are pagan. It amazes me when people who want to rehabilitate the west call for more of what is destroying it.

    https://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/02/a-churchian-response-part-ii.html?m=1

    Neither Christianity or Catholicism supports mass immigration.

    The fact you have had a generation of communists and homosexuals infiltrate all the Churches and they still have to be very careful is testament to Christianities power, even today.

    The West ‘is’ Christendom. That is what it is. All the malaise of today is due to the demise of Christianity and it’s bastardisation by saboteurs turning it into Churchianism and neo-Tikkun Olam.

    The west only became the West due to Christianity.

    The post Christian west also happens to be the post West.

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Disagree: Tusk
    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Anon
  221. @dfordoom

    What is the alternative then to the religious impulse? Pathetic worthless atheism? Retarded Pagan Larping when groids get dressed up as Odin and get rickets in the forest? Or actual Paganism, with human sacrifice, child sacrifice and pedophilia, polygamy and superstition?

    Islam? Which dessicated the cradle of civilization for centuries?

    Christianity exists for a reason. A) it is an accurate model of the universe b) it is a western response to the human religious impulse.

    Atheism is parasitical upon Christianity. Atheists have nothing to say about Islam or Pagan revivals or Jews. Atheism exists only in opposition to the West, which is coterminous with Christendom.

    The only way the West will resuscitate is a Christian revival. Not a Judeo Christian one led by Ted Haggards. But a Catholic one.

    Otherwise, you will have a religious impulse which continues to find it’s expression in ideologies that are destroying the West.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  222. KenH says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    David Irving probably did the best job of filtering out the propaganda and embellishments and sticking strictly to the facts based on primary sources. Conspiracy researcher Michael Hoffman has a new book on Hitler which labels him as “enemy of the German people” in the subtitle.

    Based on the subtitle I’m expecting another anti-Hitler polemic that Hoffman’s become known for these last few years.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  223. KenH says:

    He notes that to politicians, diversity serves as the “firewall against resurgent racism and fascism.” Some even think, he says, that “after Auschwitz, the West does not deserve to endure

    Diversity does no such thing and just replaces the presumed “racism and fascism” of the formerly dominant white European, which was actually quite mild, with that of the ascending brown man and other assorted non-white racial groups. Blacks, latinos and Asians are all embracing identity politics. In response whites are finally but slowly embracing identity politics for themselves although we still have lots of catching up to do.

    A diverse environment doesn’t cause one to reject race and racial identity which we’re told are characteristics of fascism. In fact, just the reverse and it forces everyone to think about it and take a side, usually their own. It becomes an inter-racial battle royale.

    The Jews are really rolling the dice with their highly pyrotechnic racial diversity experiment in the West. They seem overconfident that they’ll always be able to manipulate the imported non-white masses to their advantage. But a non-white supermajority is a devil they really don’t know and it could end in yet another Auschwitz for them. Only this time the gas chambers will be real.

  224. anaccount says:
    @Seraphim

    Can you stop being a Jewish caricature of yourself for even one moment? I might be expecting too much of a Jew worshipper.

  225. anaccount says:
    @John Johnson

    I agree that there is a vacuum when one leaves Christianity and I too fell into Libertarianism for a short amount of time so I don’t want to disagree with you completely. I just hope that a suitable replacement comes around. Modern Christianity (at least here in the US) does much more harm than good. So trying the same thing over again seems I’ll advised. At best it won’t get us anywhere, sort of like American Conservatism.

  226. tac says:

    The Third Reich fought for not only Germanic nations, but all of Europe against the (((parasites))) who took over Russia, at last, in 1917. Nonetheless, people still seem to hold to popular beliefs, put forth by (((Western))) propaganda. Please listen to a different point of view and come to your conclusion:

    new videos:



    https://www.bitchute.com/video/Fcw7Mdo25Q4T/

  227. Miro23 says:
    @Harbinger

    Here’s something that I strongly suggest you consider; had we in fact allied with Hitler the following would never have happened:

    Points 1 – 27

    The long list involves to the post WW2 rise to power of Jews in the West, with its subjugation and destruction of Christianity and Christian ethics, showing that it could have been avoided through a Hitler dominated Europe.

    The problem, is the entirely Western viewpoint.

    Hitler, with Western support (Great Britain for example accepting the deal he offered + US neutrality), would most likely have destroyed Russia and established his much sought after Eastern Empire – an extremely harsh pagan/German racial elite run project that would stretch to the Urals in the East and the Black sea (Ukraine) in the South. AH made it quite clear that this involved the physical destruction of Moscow and St Petersburg, the removal of higher education from the Slavs, mass population transfers (Ukraine reserved ethnic Germans) and the liquidation of Slavonic elites. There’s no doubt that from Hitler’s POV this was the right and proper imposition of the Übermenschen (ethnic Germans) on the Untermenschen (ethnic Slavs).

    Moving forward to today.

    In contrast to the West, Christian society is still functioning in the Slavonic world (despite inter-Slavonic rivalries and the EU – Non EU questions). Poland is a major centre of Catholicism and the Russian government actively supports the Christian Eastern Orthodox church.

    Putin defeated the Jewish (Yeltsin fronted) coup in Russia and chased out the primary Jewish activist/leadership (Berezovsky and Khodorkovsky) – for which he is presently much hated by the Western Jewish elite.

    Also, the Slavonic nations of Europe have been more successful than the West in defending their people and frontiers against the whole SJW/Globo-Homo/multicultural ethos.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  228. @KenH

    Yes, I know Hoffman is a German and is a disgrace. There are too many like him, it is true. David Irving is much better than that, but among the English, Irving is the exception. Most English are reflexively anti-German, tho not all of course. It seems to be bred in their bones.

    I think Hoffman’s problem is his fierce Catholicism, with its strong ‘moral’ tones. Hitler’s “crimes” are unforgivable. Even though the Christian Church has murdered far more than Hitler has even been accused of, let alone all those they’ve tortured.

  229. Franz says:
    @Seraphim

    After 7 centuries, yes.

    In fact, Freke and Gandy pretty much proved they were a bit at sea till the Roman Councils decided what the truth was. Took a bit and probably destroyed the original Christs who followed The Man Himself.

    But there are conflicting stories about Who He Was.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  230. @tac

    Hitler was aiding and abetting the Jap Bastards and Bosnian Muzzies…Hitler’s invasion of Russia was a gift to the Zionists in retrospect…..Stalin was anti-Jewish and anti-homo…..Hitler’s invasion of Russia gave us here in America the passage of the 1965 NONWHITE LEGAL IMMIGRANT INCREASE ACT=Barack Obama’s Voting Bloc=POTUS OBAMA for 8 years=WHITE GENOCIDE IN 2019….you moron….

  231. @dfordoom

    Thank you for your comments.
    On “open borders” they may sound “just” but essentially they’re a way of shifting problems without fixing them.
    They are like “charity” — at best, short term.
    I f you don’t want immigrants, work towards a world economy that encourages everyone to stay home.
    Fair trade, liquidate the IMF & WB, & the US reserve power — I think we would be amazed at how things might work, absent these tumors.
    (oh, & stop all the stupid “tribal” wars… if you know what I mean.)

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  232. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Flint Clint

    What is the alternative then to the religious impulse? Pathetic worthless atheism?

    That’s what the West has chosen. I don’t like it either. I don’t like it at all. But Christianity is not coming back.

    We seem to be left with a choice of secularism (which has torn the heart our of our civilisation) or Islam. I’m not happy with those choices but I don’t think there’s any point in fantasising about a Christian revival which is not going to happen.

    I think secularism is most probably going to win. I don’t like that either. But you have to look at reality. If we’re going to have secularism we’d be well advised to find a way of making secularism more tolerable and less destructive. In particular we need to find a way to make capitalism to find a way of making secularism more tolerable and less destructive. I’m not sure that’s possible. We may end up with socialism of some sort, as being a less disastrous choice than capitalism. We obviously need to halt and if possible reverse the tide of decadence. Capitalism breeds decadence.

    And capitalism is behind the push for open borders.

    I’d love to see a Catholic revival. But it isn’t happening and it isn’t likely to happen.

  233. dfordoom says: • Website
    @animalogic

    On “open borders” they may sound “just” but essentially they’re a way of shifting problems without fixing them.

    I agree. Unfortunately most people don’t want to think things through so they go with what sounds good and just and warm and fuzzy.

    Fair trade, liquidate the IMF & WB, & the US reserve power — I think we would be amazed at how things might work, absent these tumors.

    American military and economic might causes most of the problems by preventing alternatives from being tried. Any country that tries to find its own solutions can expect to be crushed under the American boot-heel. The United States does not believe in globalism. Or rather the American version of globalism is simply American imperialism. One government, in Washington. One culture, American culture. Washington as the New Rome.

  234. @tac

    hitler was a prophet of what is to came and like jesus message needed hundred of years to spread across europe the same thing will happen with aryanism with the difference that are our true roots.

    SIEG HEIL!!!!

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  235. @dfrdoom
    I think secularism is most probably going to win. I don’t like that either. But you have to look at reality. If we’re going to have secularism we’d be well advised to find a way of making secularism more tolerable and less destructive.

    But it isn’t secularism. It is liberalism which comes with its own pseudo-religious beliefs about inequality. Namely that White people are to blame and have blood sin to pay.

    You can’t separate liberalism and secularism in the West. Liberals don’t want it to be separated and they will push for censorship if their numbers grow. At the highest level they believe the masses need to be deceived. They know that allowing open questioning of their assumptions will lead to the erosion of liberalism.

    There is really no secularism in the West. Anyone who has spent time around secular liberals is aware of this. The Universities have their own code of unspoken rules to maintain liberal beliefs. There are certain questions you simply can’t ask.

    So there is no falling back to secularism. All you are doing is handing liberals more voters. This is what the data shows. This hasn’t changed with the advent of alternative media as the data shows that secular Whites are reliably liberal on all issues. A million more secular voters would have changed the election and stacked the courts against private gun ownership. In fact secular Whites are reliably anti-gun and don’t seem to care about secular debate and the Western tradition of considering all sides.

    I’d love to see a Catholic revival. But it isn’t happening and it isn’t likely to happen.

    It actually is possible because of Hispanics. Catholics and Mormons are having the most children while liberals don’t even average 2. If religious preference has a genetic component then it is in fact possible.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  236. Harbinger says:
    @Miro23

    “Hitler, with Western support (Great Britain for example accepting the deal he offered + US neutrality), would most likely have destroyed Russia and established his much sought after Eastern Empire – an extremely harsh pagan/German racial elite run project that would stretch to the Urals in the East and the Black sea (Ukraine) in the South. AH made it quite clear that this involved the physical destruction of Moscow and St Petersburg, the removal of higher education from the Slavs, mass population transfers (Ukraine reserved ethnic Germans) and the liquidation of Slavonic elites. There’s no doubt that from Hitler’s POV this was the right and proper imposition of the Übermenschen (ethnic Germans) on the Untermenschen (ethnic Slavs).”

    If you’re a slav, then I can only say sorry, but really, given the choice of backing Hitler, the removal of the Slavs and the subsequent saving of the western civilisation, to what’s passed in history, I’ll opt for the former.

    “In contrast to the West, Christian society is still functioning in the Slavonic world (despite inter-Slavonic rivalries and the EU – Non EU questions). Poland is a major centre of Catholicism and the Russian government actively supports the Christian Eastern Orthodox church.”

    And had there been no Jewish influence in the west – School of Frankfurt, control of the msm, academia, banking, politics then Christianity would be flourishing.

    “Putin defeated the Jewish (Yeltsin fronted) coup in Russia and chased out the primary Jewish activist/leadership (Berezovsky and Khodorkovsky) – for which he is presently much hated by the Western Jewish elite.”

    Again, had we sided with Hitler this comment would be completely irrelevant as there would be no Russia.

    “Also, the Slavonic nations of Europe have been more successful than the West in defending their people and frontiers against the whole SJW/Globo-Homo/multicultural ethos.”

    Again, there would be no SJW/Globo-Homo/multicultural ethos in the west and thus being foisted upon the Slavic nations were there no Jews to enforce and promote it.

    I have absolutely nothing, whatsoever against the Slavic peoples, whatsoever. However, I’m looking at this realistically and logically. The death tolls of westerners would not have been nowhere near as high as it was. More so, a defeat and surrender of Russia would also have meant a vast reduction in Russian deaths also. Hitler, for example, was looked upon as a saviour, when his troops entered the Ukraine. They were begging for Germany to remove Stalin and the communist regime and this was mirrored throughout Russia. He wanted to destroy Bolshevism/communism, not the Russia peoples. He wasn’t too friendly with the Slavs, but your belief he would have wiped you all out isn’t a certainty. Removal from European lands, yes, but into your own lands. The same also with the Jews.

    Every single conflict, after WW2 wouldn’t have happened had Hitler got into power. The creation of Al Qaeda and then ISIS wouldn’t have come about. There would be no refugee crisis and influx of middle easterners into Europe, as there would be no war against them as there would be no Israel. Hitler would certainly have done something about that and possibly relocated them to the Russia or Madagascar. There would have been no war in Libya and therefore, the wall holding back the hordes of Africans, piling into Europe would still be there, instead of obliterated by Hilary Clinton. There would be no ‘gay’ pride parades, no transgender madness, no rise of feminism, black panthers, minority rights organisation vying for power.
    Western society would still be, as it was, pre WW2, especially in England. London for example, would have a 99% indigenous majority and Birmingham, England’s second largest city would be completely indigenous instead of now a majority Muslim enclave.

    The pros VASTLY outweigh the cons Miro. Sure, it may have been awful for the Slavs, but I’m not a Slav and with all due respect, my people, my nation come first before any Slavic one. That’s how it’s been for peoples throughout history. The people of the west went to war against Hitler on lies. Ironically, the very reason the allied forces went to war, was for the very reasons Hitler was fighting against Russia – to stop totalitarianism and the destruction of Europe. The allied forces, however, were told that Hitler was the threat, not Russia, when it was clearly the other way around, as General Patton realised upon visiting Germany and realising they’d gone to war with the wrong enemy. And look what they did to him?

    We should have allied with Germany Miro. That’s really the bottom line. In my above list (and missing much of what has happened throughout the last 70 years) think about all the loss of lives, the destruction of nations, the refugees created because of the actions of the Jewish controlled west? Look at how Europe has now been obliterated culturally? Look at the stupid women in charge of nations, opening the doors to migration, resulting in the rape and murder of their own peoples (Sweden for example and Germany)? The Slavic nations may be fighting back, but they haven’t been destroyed by the Jews as our nations have. More so, for how long do you think your nations will survive, the onslaught of the Jewish created western degeneracy? How long before Europe creates its European Army and they start marching into your lands and enforcing their way of life upon you, imprisoning protesters, shooting protesters, taking your young and indoctrinating them with cultural Marxism, enforcing political correctness, gay pride parades and transgenders in the workplace? Again, had Hitler won, none of this would be happening. Absolutely none at all.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Miro23
    , @Malacaay
  237. @animallogic

    If you don’t want immigrants, work towards a world economy that encourages everyone to stay home.

    I am all for helping other countries through charity but there is a huge problem with this thinking.

    It assumes all countries have the capability of reaching economic stability and that they can control their populations.

    What are we supposed to do if an African country overpopulates their country and starts sending out ships of immigrants? This is where globalism runs into problems. The globalist left wants us to take them regardless of economic concerns while the globalist right has a hard time saying no to the left because in their minds it is all a temporary condition and they don’t want to be perceived as racist.

    But what if it isn’t simply a temporary condition? There might not be a good answer here other than that the mainstream right/left are not thinking critically about what is in our best interest.

  238. Bookish1 [AKA "rochester"] says:
    @HITLER WAS RIGHT

    Except the differences are that today we have the internet and most everybody can read. Its been only 73 years since the death of Hitler and already there are many people that are aware of his true message. But there are going to be forces that oppose it of course as we know. At first they will vilify anything that had to do with Hitler, as they are doing now. But as the movement grows and all that false hatred against Hitler isn’t working they will try to violently oppose it but as we know Hitler’s followers are not people to be messed with. When the destroyers of Hitler finally realize that isn’t going to bring them anything they will try to infiltrate the movement and destroy it from within. They will try to make a religious church out of it which is what Hitler was strongly opposed to. They will also try to make it a cult with a cult leadership that will lead the followers astray. Much like has happened to the christian religion, it being led in so many false directions that almost no one really knows what true Christianity is. But we have Hitler’s words on all that with all his warnings so the enemies will fail in that also.

  239. Bookish1 [AKA "rochester"] says:
    @Harbinger

    the list that you provided is the reason Hitler once said that when the Jews were given full citizenship rights the west entered a state of delirium.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  240. Hitler waged war against European People…The Nazis were the enablers of the MUZZIES…….The Ukraine Neo-Nazis are waging war against European People and are in coalition with the Muzzies……..and the homosexual Kenyan Foreigner Barack Obama who is the Pinup Boy for the Charlottesville HOMOSEXUAL ANTIFA…

  241. Harbinger says:
    @Bookish1

    Precisely.
    Hitler had the prescience to understand just what would happen to the west if the Jews took control. He knew, by their characteristics, such as what E Michael Jones speaks about in his books most notably ‘The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit’, ‘Libido Dominandi’, ‘Barren Metal’ and ‘The Slaughter of Cities’ that they would turn the west into their very own parasite playground, and use it to further Jewish goals at the expense of the non Jews. This was his message that, essentially, the Jews would turn the west into a living hell for non Jews, just as they had done to Germany, post Treaty of Versailles. He was right. The Jews knew this and so they did their best to indoctrinate the western peoples, through their controls of the msm, politics and the aristocracy, into turning Hitler into what Stalin was and vice versa. The west sided with a megalomaniac tyrant, who by the time of WW2 had killed between 15-30 million Russians already.
    The allied armed forces, ironically went off to fight under the principles of Hitler, to fight against the principles of Stalin, but ended up fighting against Hitler and with Stalin. And now the west is paying the price for their gross error.

  242. dfordoom says: • Website
    @John Johnson

    But it isn’t secularism. It is liberalism which comes with its own pseudo-religious beliefs about inequality.

    You can’t separate liberalism and secularism in the West.

    You won’t get any arguments from me on that score. Secularism and liberalism are joined at the hip. The end result is a secular pseudo-religion, with a priesthood (academics and journalists), Original Sin (racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia), the promise of a New Jerusalem of Social Justice, arcane theological disputes (is transphobia a greater sin than homophobia, can conservatives be saved), etc.

    In fact secular Whites are reliably anti-gun and don’t seem to care about secular debate and the Western tradition of considering all sides.

    Considering all sides is not the western tradition. Considering all sides is liberalism. The Western tradition is Catholicism, which emphatically does not believe in considering all sides. Considering all sides is what got us into this mess.

    It actually is possible because of Hispanics. Catholics and Mormons are having the most children while liberals don’t even average

    Liberals don’t need to have children. They control the schools and colleges. They’re going to get your children. If a Catholic has four kids the odds are that three will end up being secular liberals.

    And most modern Catholics (and increasingly even Mormons) are liberals.

  243. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Harbinger

    And had there been no Jewish influence in the west – School of Frankfurt, control of the msm, academia, banking, politics then Christianity would be flourishing.

    Nonsense. The decline of Christianity began in a major way in the 18th century. The Reformation (which amazingly wasn’t caused by the Jews), the Enlightenment (which amazingly also wasn’t caused by the Jews), the Industrial Revolution, the rise of mass media (newspapers) in the 19th century, urbanisation, the cult of Science!, the rise of large-scale capitalism (which led directly to the rise of socialism), the French Revolution, the rise of democracy – by the latter part of the 19th century these things had dealt a mortal blow to Christianity. By the beginning of the 20th century Christianity was a walking corpse.

    You know who destroyed European Christianity? Europeans. We did it to ourselves. Trying to blame others is childish.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Harbinger
  244. utu says:
    @dfordoom

    Come on, haven’t you just said “Considering all sides is not the western tradition” and here you seem like you want to be extremely even handed and possibly unfair blaming Europeans and excluding proven role of secret societies (Masonic, Jewish and whatnot) and groups of interests in destruction of European Christianity. There was a reason why the Dreyfus Affair was part of the final push for the de-Christianization of France.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  245. Harbinger says:
    @dfordoom

    “Nonsense. The decline of Christianity began in a major way in the 18th century. The Reformation (which amazingly wasn’t caused by the Jews), the Enlightenment (which amazingly also wasn’t caused by the Jews), the Industrial Revolution, the rise of mass media (newspapers) in the 19th century, urbanisation, the cult of Science!, the rise of large-scale capitalism (which led directly to the rise of socialism), the French Revolution, the rise of democracy – by the latter part of the 19th century these things had dealt a mortal blow to Christianity. By the beginning of the 20th century Christianity was a walking corpse.

    You know who destroyed European Christianity? Europeans. We did it to ourselves. Trying to blame others is childish.”

    Christianity was FLOURISHING in the west pre WW2, in fact, pre 60’s. Then everything began to change drastically. Sure Christianity had taken a blow from the middle ages, but all in all it was still the bedrock of the western civilisation. Again, to deny that Cultural Marxism (Jewish), the msm (controlled by Jews), academia (controlled by Jews), banking (controlled by Jews) and politics (controlled by Jews) was not responsible for destroying the overwhemingly Christian values of the west, proves you’re either utterly ignorant of what’s happened or you’re promoting an agenda.
    The death of Christianity in the west has solely been the goal of Jews, for obvious reasons. We now live under Judaism, NOT Christianity.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Anon
  246. Miro23 says:
    @Harbinger

    Well, Hitler was defeated in 1945 and what was to have been his Germanic Empire was occupied by the Western Powers and the Soviets. From this point onwards, Jewish power grew, especially from the late 1960’s but in divergent ways.

    After the death of Stalin (1953) the Soviets continued his policy of excluding Jews from government and this policy later spread into Soviet occupied Eastern Europe. For example, Stalin initally collected Polish Bolsheviks from his Gulags and put them in key government positions (as his agents) in Poland immediately after the war, creating major resentment in the country. But by the late 1960’s Jews were being excluded from government, in favour of ethnic Poles and Jews mostly emigrated.

    In contrast, 1968+ the US was partying with Hippiedom and launching every kind of counter-cultural (anti-Anglo) policy they could think up. It was easy for organized Jewry to manipulate and use this chaos for Jewish group advancement, which they did. The US was there for the taking and they took it.

    Conclusion that the West made its own bed and it is now lying in it.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  247. dfordoom says: • Website
    @utu

    Come on, haven’t you just said “Considering all sides is not the western tradition” and here you seem like you want to be extremely even handed and possibly unfair blaming Europeans

    No, I’m not being even handed. I think the problems of Europe are entirely the fault of Europeans. Europeans destroyed themselves by abandoning their traditions and inventing destructive ideas like moral and cultural relativism, the questioning of authority, scepticism, secularism, liberalism, modernism and the concept of considering all sides. These were all inventions of Europeans. Not Jews, but Europeans. All these concepts date, in essence at least, from the 18th century.

    We constructed the gun, we manufactured the ammunition, we loaded the gun and we blew our own brains out. We didn’t need any help.

    and excluding proven role of secret societies (Masonic, Jewish and whatnot) and groups of interests in destruction of European Christianity.

    The fact that someone asserts a conspiracy theory does not constitute proof that it is real.

    There was a reason why the Dreyfus Affair was part of the final push for the de-Christianization of France.

    The de-Christianization of France was a project of secular anticlerical republicans. Dreyfus was merely a convenient stick with which to beat the Catholics. The French were keen to complete the destruction of French civilisation which they had begun with such enthusiasm in 1789. The French did not need any assistance to commit cultural and social suicide.

    • Replies: @utu
  248. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Harbinger

    Christianity was FLOURISHING in the west pre WW2, in fact, pre 60’s.

    Pure fantasy. The slow decline of Christianity began in a serious way in the 18th century. It was a long slow death. By the 1950s Europe was post-Christian. It’s taken a little longer in the US but Christianity there is doomed as well.

    Christianity just cannot survive the challenge of secular liberalism. It’s like judo. Liberalism uses Christianity’s own strengths (or the things that had once been strengths) against it – its univeralism, its emotionalism, its appeal to women, its emphasis on charity and forgiveness. Secular liberalism has been able to turn these strengths into the weaknesses that have undermined Christianity.

    Liberal Christians have done much more damage than the Jews. Back in the mid-19th century Pope Pius IX had identified liberalism as a mortal threat to the Church but his warnings were ignored.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @Flint Clint
  249. Harbinger says:
    @Miro23

    “Well, Hitler was defeated in 1945 and what was to have been his Germanic Empire was occupied by the Western Powers and the Soviets. From this point onwards, Jewish power grew, especially from the late 1960’s but in divergent ways.”

    Jewish power was the reason FOR WW2 Miro. It may have grown in ‘divergent’ ways, but regardless, whether it’s the left wing globalist Jews, or the right wing Zionists, the world is their craps game and should anyone interfere, let along attack a Jew, they will unite to utterly destroy them.

    “After the death of Stalin (1953) the Soviets continued his policy of excluding Jews from government and this policy later spread into Soviet occupied Eastern Europe. For example, Stalin initally collected Polish Bolsheviks from his Gulags and put them in key government positions (as his agents) in Poland immediately after the war, creating major resentment in the country. But by the late 1960’s Jews were being excluded from government, in favour of ethnic Poles and Jews mostly emigrated.”

    I won’t deny that Stalin’s ‘love affair’ with the Jews began to sour, possibly due to the many assassination attempts, but regardless, he did institute a death sentence on anti semitism and people in possession of the Protocols of Zion. There were still Jews, involved with the running of the USSR. And when the Soviet Union collapsed, the oligarchs arose, Jewish to continue parasitism.
    The jury is still out on Putin, but he maintains relations with various Jewish groups (B’nai B’rith, Chabad Lubavitch).

    “In contrast, 1968+ the US was partying with Hippiedom and launching every kind of counter-cultural (anti-Anglo) policy they could think up. It was easy for organized Jewry to manipulate and use this chaos for Jewish group advancement, which they did. The US was there for the taking and they took it.

    Conclusion that the West made its own bed and it is now lying in it.”

    Not denying, one bit, that non Jews were also responsible for the demolition of the west, but that was as a result of indoctrination from cultural Marxism. Something happened to the people of the west, that stopped them continuing their own culture and traditional ways, to actively attacking and destroying them. There was nothing natural about this at all. An outside force was responsible for this and we all know who.
    In 1967 the USS Liberty was attacked by Israel, which was followed by a complete cover up by the US government, pending Court Marshalls for survivors who spoke about it. And what, again, was Cultural Marxism if not a denigration of western culture? Do you not recall the words of Willi Münzenberg: “we’ll make the west so corrupt it stinks”? He was executed (yes by Stalin’s NKVD) in June 1940, nearly 30 years before any ‘summer of love’. His and fellow cultural Marxists, teachings had already permeated to the heart of western culture and civilisation. By 1968, the US was completely owned by communists and it’s foreign policy under the control of Zionists. Universities had Marxist professors, teaching the next generation Marxist BS. Had there been no Jews, in those positions of power, then there would have been no anti-Anglo counter culture. For starters, there would have been no change (orchestrated by Jews) in the immigration policy into the USA.

    Miro, regardless, had we sided with Hitler, we would not be in the mess we are today. It’s simply a fact and people are now waking up to realise this. Again, I am not a national socialist, but I clearly see that we went to war against the wrong country and should have sorted out the Jewish question, there and then.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  250. Seraphim says:
    @Franz

    There were conflicting ‘stories’ about Who He Was from the very beginning. One ‘story’ alone is true, that told by the Father and Himself to the Apostles, was written in the Gospels, and that is the one that the Councils inspired by the Holy Ghost recognized and proclaimed.

    “And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?” (Luke 5:21).
    ” 49 And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also?”(Luke 7:49).

    [MORE]

    ” And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased” (Matthew 3:16-17).
    “And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. 7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid. 8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only. 9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead” (Matthew 17:1-9).

    “When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven” (Matthew 16:13-17).
    ” I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him”(John 10:30-38).

  251. @jack daniels

    The Jewish establishment has been with us for a very long time. It is ineffective when strongly opposed. Since WW II it has not been strongly opposed. While waiting for the Jewish establishment to come to its senses [1] is not physically impossible, it seems likely to be a long wait. I prefer to consider the opposition side.

    OTH, maybe if you talk at them long enough, they’ll reform. Stranger things have happened, but not much stranger.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] The “Jewish Century” (20th) saw the catastrophic failure of every plan proposed by the Jewish establishment, quite of often with massive casualties. By the 1960s Communism had lost the moral high ground, the Jewish component of the USSR was no longer in power, Jewish casualties during WW II had been high, and Israel was assembled, apparently as a nuclear target, after fission weapons were developed. After an attempt to make peace with US civil society resulted in massive defection of Jewish youth to US civil society, the Jewish establishment started teaching young Jews that everybody hated them and that they would be genocided by the West, which has apparently resulted in the Jewish establishment trying to genocide the Whites first and importing foreigners who are more a threat to the Jewish population than those they are trying to genocide.
    Such ineptness is monumental, and suggests some kind of mental illness. Hence the phrase “coming to its senses”.

  252. Seraphim says:
    @Flint Clint

    Christendom is neither ‘East’ nor ‘West’. East or West are strictly geographical notions in respect to Christendom, which is actually the Church. The ‘West’ of the modern parlance is the result of the gradual severance of the Christians living in the extreme occidental parts of ‘Europe’ from the Church and rejection of its promise to Mankind of the Kingdom of Heavens’. When they fell for the temptations of Satan, rejected by the Christ. When they started to chase the Utopia of the ‘Kingdom of God on Earth’ and fell back into ‘pagan’ idolatry and human sacrifices, worshiping the idols of money, materialism, liberalism, atheism, socialism, communism and of their own navels. The ‘West’ as against the Rest is an idol, a Wicker Man.
    The ‘Christianity’ of the West is like in the Parable of the Sower:
    “Behold, a sower went forth to sow; 4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up: 5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them.
    8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. 9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear”. That was in the ‘East’.

  253. @Dfordoom
    Considering all sides is not the western tradition. Considering all sides is liberalism. The Western tradition is Catholicism, which emphatically does not believe in considering all sides. Considering all sides is what got us into this mess.

    It is the western tradition if we are talking about Greek and Roman philosophy. The Catholic church as you know came much later.

    What we call liberalism today is not classic liberalism. It’s more of an egalitarian group think cult that has zero interest in considering all sides.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  254. @dfordoom
    Christianity just cannot survive the challenge of secular liberalism. It’s like judo. Liberalism uses Christianity’s own strengths (or the things that had once been strengths) against it – its univeralism, its emotionalism, its appeal to women, its emphasis on charity and forgiveness. Secular liberalism has been able to turn these strengths into the weaknesses that have undermined Christianity.

    Secular liberalism exploits modern Christianity in the US and Western Europe but this isn’t universal.

    The Eastern European countries are heavily Orthodox and far less liberal compared to the secular West.

    In this context I think it oversimplifies the situation to treat Christianity as a single abstraction.

    Certain forms of Christianity clearly inoculate people from liberalism.

    But I think we agree more than not. I just don’t see a secular solution to liberalism. Rand tried with libertarianism but it ends up with just as many problems and leads to greater inequality. The Russians probably have the best mix which is Orthodox plus state level checks on liberalism and capitalism. I’m open to alternatives but they have the better record. The Poles seem to have a healthy balance as well.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  255. dfordoom says: • Website
    @John Johnson

    What we call liberalism today is not classic liberalism. It’s more of an egalitarian group think cult that has zero interest in considering all sides.

    The idea that there was once a “good” form of liberalism (classical liberalism) and that it got corrupted into something bad needs to be consigned to the trash heap. Liberalism is inherently bad. Classical liberalism was in many ways worse than the modern variant of liberalism – it was socially corrosive, atheistic, materialistic, alienating, nihilistic and utterly destructive. It destroyed western civilisation.

    There never was a good liberalism.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  256. dfordoom says: • Website
    @John Johnson

    The Eastern European countries are heavily Orthodox and far less liberal compared to the secular West.

    Unfortunately that’s not going to last. They’re going to be engulfed by the tide of secular liberalism and decadence that has wrecked the West. Christianity is already in decline in eastern Europe. Church attendance rates in Russia for example are frighteningly low. The urban elites in eastern Europe are already post-Christian. Who needs Christianity when you have smartphones, facebook, hook-up culture and online porn?

    There’s nothing special about Orthodox Christianity. It’s just that communism delayed the onset of western liberalism and degeneracy for a while.

    Certain forms of Christianity clearly inoculate people from liberalism.

    Even the Amish aren’t inoculated. They have lots of children. Only a minority remain Amish. The rest leave and adopt secular liberalism. There is no known cure or vaccine for liberalism, except perhaps communism.

    I just don’t see a secular solution to liberalism.

    Isolation from the sources of infection. The North Korea Option.

    I don’t really see a secular option either, but the only religious option is Islam. So the choices are communism, Islam or liberalism. Communism and Islam are clearly preferable to liberalism but they’re not perhaps ideal solutions. But we don’t have any good options.

  257. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harbinger

    The history of Salvation is not over yet. The Church is either the Remnant (which I would like to believe but don’t), or must once again overcome its internal dissent and re-evangelize society (ies).
    Those of us who grew in times of Christian cultural dominance might confuse the return to the catacombs with the end of Christianity, but we shouldn’t.

  258. utu says:
    @dfordoom

    The fact that someone asserts a conspiracy theory does not constitute proof that it is real.

    Really? Are you saying that the Catholic Church was suffering from delusions and percussion paranoia when it issued anti-masonic encyclicals?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticlericalism_and_Freemasonry

    FRENCH ANTI-CLERICALISM, Joseph Folliet, 1938

    Hiding behind intellectual anti-clericalism is Freemasonry.

    TheRadical Party, whose anti-clericalism was at one time both theoretic and political, has now solemnly broken with anti-clericalism through the mouthpiece of its president, M. Campinchi; but Masonic influences are still very strong among the Radicals.

    Freemasonry and the Press in the Twentieth Century: A National Newspaper …
    https://books.google.com/books?id=WvgGDAAAQBAJ&pg=PT137&lpg=PT137&dq=france+masonic+anticlericalism&source=bl&ots=J3pP2clqVI&sig=ACfU3U0UsMOcj1VlBy4wPWhEaxsDggs60A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjS9aWs7tHlAhXBuFkKHTbsAgoQ6AEwCXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=france%20masonic%20anticlericalism&f=false

    https://ethicsdaily.com/two-centuries-of-tension-between-masons-catholics-cms-21853/
    At the same time, Masons became viscerally anti-Catholic and anti-clerical, and lodges became the foci of radical political movements aimed at undermining the established church.

    In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, Freemasonry became the principal vehicle for militant secularism and anti-clericalism.

    Those struggles almost led to overt civil war in France in the late 1890s, and they actually did spark armed violence in Spain and Mexico in the 1930s.

    In fact, it is scarcely an exaggeration to say that if you ignore Freemasonry, you have no hope of understanding Mexican history over the past century.

    Meanwhile, Masonic support of Jewish emancipation in Europe provoked reactionary denunciations of the “Masonic-Jewish” conspiracy, which was later expanded to include Bolsheviks. Masons came to occupy a primary place in Nazi demonology.

    Matters were, of course, very different in the Anglo-American world, but Freemasons had a progressive bent. At least nine of 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were Masons.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-04-19/france-where-freemasons-are-still-feared
    France: Where Freemasons Are Still Feared

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  259. geokat62 says:
    @dfordoom

    [Liberalism] destroyed western civilisation.

    Nice try!

    Given that its roots go back millennia, why is it that classical liberalism (responsible for the Glorious Revolution of 1688) took so long to destroy Western civilization?

    Looking back over this epoch, Western societies seemed to be in relatively good shape until the counterrevolution was unleashed in the 1960s, when Cultural Marxist ideas were injected into the bloodstream of these societies. And who was responsible for spreading this toxic poison throughout the west?

    Organized Jewry, that’s who. With the Frankfurt School leading the way, the fundamental pillars of Western civilization – the family, the church, the country – were attacked and toppled. So, it was Cultural Marxism that destroyed Western civilization, not liberalism.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  260. Seraphim says:
    @utu

    Masonry being a Protestant creation as a weapon against the Catholic Church is by definition anti-catholic and anti-clerical.

  261. Harbinger says:
    @dfordoom

    Quite the contrary, it most certainly is not ‘pure’ fantasy. I’m nearly 50. I was born in 1971. I remember in the 70’s, my city, here in Scotland being predominantly Christian with people going to church on a Sunday (I myself as a protestant) and pubs being closed on Sundays, with many people still holding the sabbath. There was no shops open on a Sunday. That was in the 70’s, so certainly it was even more so in the 60’s and before. Britain, of which I am speaking, was most certainly NOT post Christian, by the 1950’s. That’s just complete balderdash!

    I think you’ll also find that liberals pre 1950 were Christians, but the Christianity most certainly was nowhere near liberal as it is today. Christians have vastly changed, I’ll agree, since 1950, but this, as stated was all down to an outside force, a fifth column within – cultural Marxism in the universities.
    Society for thousands of years promoted its culture and traditions to its next generations. That seriously began to change post war with children abandoning their culture for ‘pop’ culture courtesy of TV and the msm. Liberals might very well have been working in those industries, that I won’t deny but again, it was the cultural Marxists behind it.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  262. @dfordoom

    It isn’t pure fantasy.

    As recently as 25 years ago it was possible for Catholics never to interact with a non-Catholic.

    Whilst JFK was a poor example, his Presidency marked what was being called an upcoming ‘Catholic Century’ in the United States.

    I can’t find the book, but it analysed Catholicism in the US pre and post Vatican II.

    Catholicism was burgeoning with massive numbers in the seminaries, Catholic Schools bursting and Catholics, some practicing in all areas, other not, at the forefront of popular society.

    Then Vatican II, infiltrated by Jews and Communists and Masons happened.

    And the infiltration identified by Bella Dodd in ‘School of Darkness’ came to fruition.

    You are quite wrong.

    Reconquista 2.0 is coming. The new Ordo Draconum is coming. And mark my words, this wave of mass migration will mark the end of the West’s well-meaning but ill-considered experiment in religious freedom. Forget “European union”. It is time to bring back the nations of Christendom.

    The writer is wrong. The lesson of history is clear: the nations of Christendom can and will get rid of the invaders. It can be done the Spanish way, the German way, or the Romanian way. And the longer it takes to substantively address the issue, the more likely it is that one of the two latter methods will be embraced by the public and utilized.

    Immigration is rape culture. Immigration is cultural rape.

    All the precedents have been set now.

    If I can be fired and destroyed for saying a man is a women and homosexuals have higher rates of aids and black people on average have lower IQ’s then white people, then people can be deported for insulting the Virgin Mary.

  263. dfordoom says: • Website
    @geokat62

    Given that its roots go back millennia, why is it that classical liberalism (responsible for the Glorious Revolution of 1688) took so long to destroy Western civilization?

    Millennia? I assume you’re trying to argue that classical liberalism was invented by the Graeco-Roman civilisation. I think that’s a bit dubious.

    The Graeco-Roman civilisation was in fact an entirely separate civilisation which collapsed almost entirely. The new western civilisation that replaced it was a synthesis of a barbarian warrior culture and Christianity. Graeco-Roman was an influence of course.

    The Graeco-Roman civilisation was an entirely alien civilisation. Their beliefs, their worldview, their understanding of themselves and of nature, were radically different. To say that the Greeks and the Romans were proto-classical liberals is a huge stretch.

    Classical liberalism has its roots in the Reformation.

    Why did it take so long to destroy Western civilisation? Because undermining Christianity was an immense task. There’s a lot of ruin in a civilisation. And when the foundations are undermined over a very long period you don’t notice for a long time. Just as you don’t notice the symptoms of some fatal diseases for a very long time.

    The undermining was slow but inexorable. By the time the Frankfurt School came along the building had already thoroughly rotted from within.

    The mass slaughter of the two world wars accelerated the collapse. Cultural marxism (which in its modern form is anti-marxist) delivered the final kick that sent the walls tumbling down.

    Believing that everything is the fault of the Jews is just a way to evade responsibility, and to evade the hard work of fixing things.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @geokat62
  264. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Harbinger

    I think you’ll also find that liberals pre 1950 were Christians

    You can’t be a Christian and a liberal. You can be a liberal and pretend to be a Christian. If you’re a Christian and you’re a liberal then you have in fact adopted a secular philosophy and abandoned Christianity. The same applies to Jews – liberal Jews have in fact adopted a secular philosophy and abandoned Judaism.

    You can however be a socialist and a Christian. Socialism and liberalism are two different animals with almost nothing in common.

    Christians have vastly changed, I’ll agree, since 1950, but this, as stated was all down to an outside force, a fifth column within – cultural Marxism in the universities.

    Christianity has vastly changed but mostly from within. Christians lost faith in Christianity and the idea of the kingdom of Heaven and turned to feelgood liberalism and the project of building Heaven on earth. Pope Pius IX was railing against liberalism in the Church in the mid-19th century.

    Cultural marxism (which since the 60s has increasingly been cultural capitalism) is a bad thing and has done much harm. But it’s just one of the factors that has eviscerated Christianity and western civilisation. Capitalism has been a deadly enemy to Christianity.

  265. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Flint Clint

    Then Vatican II, infiltrated by Jews and Communists and Masons happened.

    The disaster of Vatican II was largely the work of liberal Catholics who wanted to “modernise” and “reform” the Church. It was woolly-minded defeatist thinking, a belief that the best way to make the Church “relevant” was to get rid of all the Catholic stuff.

    The Church had definitely been infiltrated by liberals and secularists, and possibly a few communists. It had also been heavily infiltrated by homosexuals. And heavily infiltrated by feelgood thinking. But essentially the Church decided to commit suicide by trying to be popular and modern which they tried to do by making the Church less Catholic.

    Many Jews were certainly hostile to Christianity (and Christianity had been pretty hostile to Jews at times) and many secular Jews have certainly been delighted by the collapse of Christianity. But Christianity destroyed itself with a considerable amount of assistance from capitalism and liberalism, and foolish misguided weak-minded Christians.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  266. @Flint Clint

    If I can be fired and destroyed for saying a man is a women and homosexuals have higher rates of aids and black people on average have lower IQ’s then white people, then people can be deported for insulting the Virgin Mary.

    Deportation for undermining foundational beliefs is characteristic of societies recovering from near extinction. They’ve just been through establishing the foundational beliefs, don’t want to do it again, and have more than enough people.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  267. @Malacaay

    That is Communism. Jews don’t have monopoly on the word ‘social’. That word simply means caring for one another, and that was Hitlers ideology. Together we are strong and happy.

    All the nonsense about “owning the means of production” is just empty gibberish. It has never happened and was never intended to happen. It’s the Jewish version of “vote for me and there will be magically be jobs and money for you”. The shyster door opener.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
    , @Malacaay
  268. @Harbinger

    A rather amazing comment. It signals a bit of a shift in the tide.

    Historical note: Stalin was responsible for two massive purges against Jewish Communists. The first was in the 1930s, the second in the 1950s. Suvorov [1] makes a good case that Stalin’s actions were those of a Russian Nationalist, and that his purges were actually a rational (in a Machiavellian sense ) and effective way of keeping control of the USSR’s government and preparing for WW II.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Viktor Suvorov.
    _The Chief Culprit_
    Search Amazon.com

  269. anon[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    roman law,the idea of the the empire,art and architecture, psientific method ,the idea of republic democracy and tirany,olympic sports ,proto liberalism and proto nazism (spartans )……we only embrace it in full force in the reinassance

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  270. @dfordoom

    The difficulty in opposing open borders is that open borders sounds fair and just and moral. So you need an alternative that also sounds fair and just and moral.

    No, you don’t. You _need_ an alternative that keeps you and your dependents breathing, drinking water, eating adequately, and with shelter, and you have to ensure that nobody else can take it away. Sounds basic, but right now, as you read, the homeless don’t have that _in the US_. Taxpayers are finding that their kids don’t leave home (no place to go, self respect and initiative destroyed by public schools). That’s what Trump’s supporters are about.

    People who have to fight to ensure their real physiological needs can invent a moral reason afterwards, and usually do. Typically, a bit later time (after the dust has been settled for a generation or two) at least one group arises that says the fight was immoral and claims that shows how pure the group is.

    But typically the morality is adapted from wartime propaganda of the winning side right after the fight is over [1]. That’s why nobody has thus far been able to predict what morality will be after a major war/ social reorganization. Nietzsche pointed this out some time ago, c.a. AD 1900.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] * Treaty of Westphalia and subsequent work by Locke and Hobbes in England, other Enlightenment philosophers elsewhere in Europe.
    * post WW II accounts of the war — see R. Unz articles on the subject in American Pravda.

  271. Anon[919] • Disclaimer says:
    @Flint Clint

    Largely agree.

    You are correct about Vatican II being an inflexion point, though you must also consider the changes to life in the religious order of the Jesuits through the General Congregations just prior and after Vatican II. Their influence on the other orders should not be underestimated.

    Since the Council was not “traditional” (that is, had no intent to clarify belief and anathemise dangerous deviance), ambiguity in doctrinal matters was introduced. Particularly harmful in the case of Nostra Aetate, that opened the door to “dialogue” with other religions. The Church however, just needs to understand other religions, period. And then convert the heathens 😎. Otherwise the zeal of the Faith is lost, then faith itself at the individual level. Easy enough to remedy it, simply by using Peter’s ex-cathedra to solemnly, authoritatively assert dogma and declare anathema. JPII did not do this, by the way. He chose a different path to shore up the faith.

    Also the liturgical changes of the post Concilium, cooked up by a mason but implemented by apostates, needs a little revisiting. The parishes of the FSSP are growing, both in really poor and really wealthy places (Naples, Fl. It boggles the mind). If you are Catholic, do not loose heart. Are we not the Church Militant?

    “The world offers you confort. But you were not made for confort, you were made for greatness”.

  272. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Counterinsurgency

    Deportation for undermining foundational beliefs is characteristic of societies recovering from near extinction

    Do you want to give us some real world examples of that?

    In fact are there any real world examples of societies recovering from near extinction?

    I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just interested to know which historical examples you’re basing that claim on.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  273. dfordoom says: • Website
    @anon

    roman law,the idea of the the empire,art and architecture, psientific method ,the idea of republic democracy and tirany,olympic sports ,proto liberalism and proto nazism (spartans )……we only embrace it in full force in the reinassance

    The Greeks and Romans knew nothing whatever of the scientific method. The idea of empire, and art and architecture – these are found in just about every civilisation in every part of the world. Roman law was no doubt a fine thing but other civilisations have had the rule of law as well. Graeco-Roman democracy has little in common with democracy as it developed in the West much much later. The voting system in the Roman Republic was devised to ensure that the elites remained firmly in charge.

    • Replies: @anon
  274. Cyrano says:
    @Alexandros

    You are clueless, aren’t you. There is no difference between Socialism and “Communism”. Communism never existed in reality. It was only a stated goal to be reached somewhere in the near future. Owning the means of production actually did exist in pretty much all “Communist” countries. All the means of production were owned by the state, with very limited private ownership. Hitler’s “Socialism” was just a propaganda gimmick. There was no “Socialism” in Nazi Germany.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  275. @Cyrano

    I must disappoint you on that. There is an enormous difference between Communism and Hitlerian Socialism. One is designed to wreck and enslave nations, the other to lift them up. And we have “live runs” of both ideologies proving this.

    The State owning the means is nothing new. It does not in any way imply the people share in them also. Your confusion obviously stems from the inability to see Hitlers socialism. He called it so, and by definition it is so. Again, Jews do not get to define our words. There is no secret meaning to combining the word ‘social’ with ‘ism’. It’s quite obvious what it means. For you to adamantly proclaim Socialism as according to the Jews shows you have been infected by their mindset, nothing else.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  276. anon[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    of course some of the thing existed in other part of the world but we embraced our own flavour in the reinassance and unmistakenly a continuation of the graeco roman culture tradition art ,law architecture ,democracy ,olympic sports,the base of our literature and with it the standars of beaty ,to a lesser degree the moral code of what is good and bad, the idea of the empire where even charlomagne see hinself as the new roman empeoror and as such he is retrated in the coins or how romanov dinasty embraced the same aspiration of the idea of empire………

    and yes psientific method with the rejection of simplistic explanation provided by gods greeks were the first to explore sistematically the new fertil land of science and be the profesors that gave birth to a new era in europe in the reinassance, you only need to check how in the late medieval era universities and specially in the reinassance italy all non religious studies are based in the teaching of greeks with aristoteles as the central figure.

  277. @Durruti

    There seems to be a slight misunderstanding here.
    First of all, let me clarify that I think the official/traditional/approved narrative of WWII is pretty much close to the truth.

    I was merely reacting to this sentence in your post:

    “we must ask, why did the Nazis give all their gains away, and insist on fighting the SAME ALLIANCE that had overwhelmed and defeated them in a quite recent (20 years earlier), conflict?”

    The answer, in my opinion, is simple: there was no other way for Germany, on its road to perceived “greatness”.
    It’s predetermined by its geography, being “squeezed” between France/Great Britain and Russian Empire (Soviet Union).

    What would be the most logical thing that existing great powers would do when facing a new challenger or contender like a unified Germany at the turn of the 20th century?
    Well of course, gang up and smack the guy in the middle (yes, countries behave like that).

    In WWI, Germany’s military strategy required a quick victory over France to avoid war on 2 fronts. In 1940 Nazi Germany thought it has achieved this strategic goal. You may not be aware, but Germany’s blitzkrieg against France in 1940 was simply a re-run of the Schlieffen Plan from WWI, only this time executed properly because now German army could move, deploy and attack much, much faster due to existence of battle tanks and other modern military equipment.

    True, there was a quite lot of jockeying for alliances prior to WWII, but bottom line is this: the most natural thing has always been to eliminate the “guy in the middle”.
    And this is where Hitler’s megalomania comes into play. Nazi Germany leadership gambled for all or nothing and, not surprisingly, lost.
    Just my 2 cents.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  278. Cyrano says:
    @Alexandros

    I was born and raised in a “communist” country. There are still people who can teach me about communism and socialism. You are not one of those people. Contrary to popular belief – mostly among the brain dead westerners – socialism is not a milder form of communism. Also, multiculturalism is not a milder form of socialism. Multiculturalism is a twin sibbling of Hitler’s Socialism – they are both phony and have an objective that’s diametrically opposite of the advertised one.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  279. @Dfordoom
    Even the Amish aren’t inoculated. They have lots of children. Only a minority remain Amish.

    I don’t know where you are getting your data. The majority of Amish children stay Amish
    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5455572

    That Catholic Church has the highest retention rate
    https://epicpew.com/study-shows-catholic-church-highest-retention-rate/

    The Orthodox church in the US has been growing
    http://www.orthodoxreality.org/

    You are trying to depict all sects as equally vulnerable to liberalism when the data says otherwise. Clearly some denominations inoculate better than others.

  280. “So, after a whole book about the problems of deconstructionism, open borders, multiculturalism, and so much more, we’re just left with vague hopes of inter-racial unity based on shared shame over America’s historic prejudice.

    We’re also back where we started, being drafted to fight the “dark gods” that the postwar “Open Society” order was built to combat. Why?”

    Exactly. Until the sincere conservatives can escape the maze of liberalism, they will only be stuck perpetuating the very process that they want to break free from.

    Apparently national unity now just means globalism on a smaller scale. Well if the entire world is filled with these “globalism-in-one-nation” countries, then what we have we really achieved?

    Nothing. People like Reno have to break this stranglehold that liberalism has on their brains.

  281. Durruti says:
    @Simpleguest

    And this is where Hitler’s megalomania comes into play. Nazi Germany leadership gambled for all or nothing and, not surprisingly, lost.

    As a friend of my father said to me when I was a child, “Now you’re cooking with gas.”

    A few points.

    1. WW I & WW II both ended with the Germans loosing.

    2. The nations that lost the most in both WWs were Serbia-#, Russia, France, England, & Germany.

    3. The same powers/forces (Financial-Oligarchs, Jewish, but not only Jewish Oligarchs), benefitted from the carnage.

    4. The desire of the Zionists for someone else’s Land, was not satisfied (carried to fruition) in WW I. Therefore, apparently, one more horrendous World Slaughter, another World Conflict, was needed. This point needs fleshing out with RESEARCH – leading to clear documentary proofs.

    5. Certainly, the major outcome of the WWs is the weakening of Europe, which weakens America, and, after WW II, the Zionist Oligarchs finally achieved their Armed Military/Nuclear Base, albeit, on the land of the unfortunate Palestinians, and this has led to the weakening of the Arab Peoples efforts to build modern prosperous societies.

    a. We know the Rothschilds dominated the British Empire from 1815 (the defeat of Napoleon’s France – THEN THE MAJOR EUROPEAN LAND POWER – THAT INCLUDED MOST OF GERMANY AS ALLIES). Understand, the Central Europeans were defeated by an alliance of the British, and Russian Empires, (with a little help from a young Prussia – fighting on Britain & Russia’s side). Essentially, the Napoleonic Wars were the same contentious line up you mention in your comment when you refer to WWs I & II. [the outside against the center]

    My point is: that conflicts between this essential correlation/line up of forces has proven repeatedly useful to the Rothschild, other Jewish Oligarchs, and a few not Jewish ones.

    Strong Republics, led by strong Citizens, living in strong National States, is the road out of this mess. We Americans must Restore our Republic! That is our Yellow Brick Road.

    Durruti

  282. Seraphim says:
    @dfordoom

    The main reason of Vatican II was the declaration of ‘Nostra Aetate’, which marked the first victory of Judaism in its fight against the Church. The ‘modernization’ sought by the ‘liberals’ and revolutionaries infiltrated in the Church for at least the time of the French Revolution and its spawns in the 19th century (as detailed in the “The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita” – ‘to effect an environment that would eventually produce a Pope and a hierarchy won over to the ideas of liberal Catholicism, but who would all the while believe themselves to be faithful Catholics’), was meant to create the mental climate for the implementation of ‘Nostra Aetate’, the so-called ‘reconciliation’ of Christianity with Judaism by asking forgiveness for the ‘long history of anti-Judaism’ (which led to the Holocaust!) and fighting ‘antisemitism’.
    Vatican II removed the last resistances to the trend initiated in full swing in 1926 by the ‘Opus sacerdotale Amici Israel’ (‘The Clerical Association of Friends of Israel’) by the request to remove from the ‘Good Friday prayer for the Jews’ the term ‘perfidis Judaeis’.
    A central role in adoption of the ‘Nostra Aetate’ had Professor Jules Isaac, the French ‘Dreyfusard’ and later ‘antifascist’ (whose family perished at Auschwitz), Inspector General of Public Instruction in the ‘Front Populaire’ Government of Leon Blum, of course fighting in the ‘Resistance’. But he is “most well known for his tireless work after the War in the field of Jewish-Christian relations, culminating in his decisive key role in the origin of the groundbreaking declaration Nostra Aetate during the Second Vatican Council”. In 1947, Isaac co-founded Judeo-Christian Friendship organization “committed to combating in particular the Christian roots” of anti-Semitism and “help the Christian world develop a ‘teaching of respect’ for the Jewish people”.

  283. Malacaay says:
    @Seraphim

    I wouldn’t know. I don’t know how Phoenicians called themselves, their own name that is. What we are using is the Greek name of them. Phoenicians is how the Greeks called that Semitic people. It comes from “phoinix” is the Greek name; it’s how Greeks called them. Apart from that, I do remember that Phoenicians were spreading in Hispania and something related to their, and possibly general Semitic, behavioral characteristics. Their priestess and temple girls I think were copulating and god knows what else with the visitors of shrines. It think in Babylonia similar or identical behavior was observed, as was in Assyria and elsewhere in the region — but not the Hittites who were neighbors of Assyria and elsewhere in Anatolia. There always seem to be some kind of mental and civilizational division between Anatolia and the Middle East and that went along Hittite and Armenian borders toward Caucasus and Caspian region. People Anatolia never resembled Semites in any way, shape or form, and even less so nomadic Turkic plague from the Asian steppes. They were of our cultural and civilizational realm. Herodotus himself was born in Anatolia if I not mistaken. Anyhow, looking at these current borders, I couldn’t help not to notice that southeastern Turkic plague borders are roughly resembling that line of mental borders and civilizational realm I just spoke of whereas western borders (in Europa) are exactly where Persian/Iranian invasion had stopped before Alexander the Great led his army and crushed the Persian invaders.

    There was a famous Babylonian priestess who found sanctuary in Priam’s Troy if I remember the story well. She was called Kashanna and born in Babylon. Cassandra was her name in Troy. The woman had some prophetic sights and the legend described her as a princess. I remember that story. Anyhow, observe the cultural setting: the names. Priam, Paris, Deiphobus, Agathon, Mestor, Chromius, Dius, Polymedon, Aesacus, Cassandra, etc. Do these names share anything with Turkic or Semitic world? Are they Asian? Of course not.

  284. @dfordoom

    Do you want to give us some real world examples of that?

    The first one would be the end of the 30 years war, when international law was re-written to define the contemporary nation-state. The ruler of each state decided what religion his country followed, and those who did not follow it were legally required to leave or be imprisoned.

    The second one is of course the West after WW II: the end of free speech in Europe and its restriction in the United States are examples. Be quiet or leave.

    Third one would be Spain after the last Moorish influence was ended. It tried to put together a new society as a unified state, realized that this effort could fail, and clamped down with the Inquisition (which was not initiated in Spain, but which was certainly adopted there).

    4th would be Athens after it lost the Peloponnesian War. That one was a bad war, 30 odd years and killed most of the original Athenian men, who were replaced by freed slaves (“Row in the next naval engagement and you’ll be free! One way or another.”). In practice, the new citizens were only interested in the money they earned from rowing the fleet during the summer campaigning season [1]. Anyway, that’s when the Athenians killed Socrates. They had enough trouble without Socrates trying to induce existential identity crises.

    In fact are there any real world examples of societies recovering from near extinction?

    Again, depends on what you (or I, since I said it first) mean by “near extinction”. In each of the cases above, the societies had faced challenges that required a change in their fundamental character. In quite a few of the cases, the societies had won but their opponents were no more, and the societies believed that they could have been “no more” just as easily. In the case of the Athenians, they had lost, and had only escaped the destruction of their city and the death of their citizens because Athens and its playwrights were considered the cultural light of Greece.
    I haven’t covered any societies that were actually on the brink of physical extinction. When it gets down to that level, pretty much everything is jettisoned [2].

    Counterinsurgency

    1] The Athenian Navy lasted up until the time of Alexander the Great. When Alexander died, Athens declared independence. The head of the local successor state challenged the Greek fleet with his own fleet, using Alexander’s troops as Marines, and greatly outnumbering the Athenian fleet. The Athenian fleet flat out surrendered, first time in the history of the Athenian Navy that happened. And the last. The victorious fleet proceeded to Athens, took every last professional rower they could find, relocated them to someplace up North from which they never returned, and that was it. Athens became a university town, and never again was a serious military threat to anybody.

    3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ik_people Note that not everybody agrees with Turnbull, but that the disagreements seem to be quibbles.

  285. geokat62 says:
    @dfordoom

    Millennia? I assume you’re trying to argue that classical liberalism was invented by the Graeco-Roman civilisation. I think that’s a bit dubious.

    Invented? I wrote that its roots go back millennia:

    Isolated strands of liberal thought had existed in Western philosophy since the Ancient Greeks… These ideas were first drawn together and systematized as a distinct ideology, by the English philosopher John Locke, generally regarded as the father of modern liberalism.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

    The new western civilisation that replaced it was a synthesis of a barbarian warrior culture and Christianity.

    You need to do a little more research on the wellsprings of the Renaissance. Sailing From Byzantium is a good start.

    Why did it take so long to destroy Western civilisation? Because undermining Christianity was an immense task…

    By the time the Frankfurt School came along the building had already thoroughly rotted from within.

    No, whole the walls of the building were indeed weathered, but the foundations were still strong until the poison of Bolshevism 2.0, Cultural Marxism, was unleashed on an unsuspecting public. The proof for this is visible in Eastern European societies in which the Church has made a resurgence after the collapse of Bolshevism 1.0, Communism.

    Believing that everything is the fault of the Jews is just a way to evade responsibility, and to evade the hard work of fixing things.

    Not everything, just the most important things!

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  286. @renfro

    When things get bad enough that you not only can’t save your society but quite likely can’t save your immediate dependents or yourself, considerations such as Renfo’s [1] become the default, and the mind becomes focused on saving what you can. It’s amazing how quickly this can happen.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] http://www.unz.com/article/hitlers-revenge-the-return-of-the-strong-gods-and-the-resurrection-of-the-west/#comment-3536531

  287. Malacaay says:
    @Seraphim

    You mentioned Jews. There is also Israel’s plight: Muslimos occupy Jewish sacred sites and sacred Jewish land, but because they are Semitic and part of Israel population is not (you judge how large part yourself: that libtard fella Aaron would make Mulat or some other race of you if those degenerate liberal teachings he displayed were adopted by your people), the judgement of some part of the world is that they have the right on it. That libtard fella called to sin against the ancestors as well as the God’s creation. These liberal corrupters, contaminators, desecrators, despoilers and polluters like him have caused the downfall of Jewish race as well every other. Such principal, heinous crime against a people (collective) is the most severe crime. It calls for non-existence of those it was addressed at. It differs in genocide only in the means of realization, the end result is the same: non-existence of a particular genus. These libtards, and Jews who adopted and oftentimes lead them, are preaching genocide, yet they shriek, yowl and howl loudly if someone calls for theirs or their liberal contaminant they created.

  288. Malacaay says:
    @Harbinger

    Now you are portraying yourself to be a big friendo of the Germans, hmm, Anglo? That after working tirelessly to destroy them and remove your competitor. Anglos caused both world wars. It weren’t Germans who spoke of Mackinder’s Heartland theory and desire to conquer Europa and Asia, but Anglos. That was all before WW1. The 1st WW, Anglo. Who bombed Dresden to the ground and killed hundreds of thousands German civilians just months before the end of all hostilities? Don’t you think that Anglos should be exterminated? Haven’t Anglos exterminated all the native species and eradicated all the other cultures except theirs (even European ones like Spanish and le French)?

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @german anonm
  289. Malacaay says:
    @Alexandros

    What is communism? Socialism? Socialism is not communism, you simpleton. Communism is a political ideology which adopted socialism, i.e. belief that the state ought to own its natural resources, strategic industries, monopolies and all the the other things of importance and significant consequence for a people — not individual capitalist parasites who are exploiting them, both nature and the people (collective), for their private gains, profit and benefit. That is something which any sane, rational and intelligent man will support and want for his people (and all the other people if he has any unselfish concerns for the others as well). Communism as a political ideology incorporates many other things which have nothing to do with socialism, things like bureaucracy, dictatorship, atheistic credo that all religions should be eradicated, national cultures destroyed, national identities erased, gender removed while in its place would stand a new non-national, cosmopolitan identity. In other words communism sought international, global, cosmopolitan society freed of religion, national culture, community, gender and linkage to blood and soil… the same as “enlightened” liberal humanism which adopted capitalism — i.e. exploitation of masses for the benefit of a chosen few. Socialism was the only thing which was of value there, and it was the only advantage commuism had is terms of ideological desirability over those who adopted capitalist parasitism.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
    , @Alexandros
  290. Harbinger says:
    @Malacaay

    Britons were lied to, by their leaders, on WW2 (and WW1). Their governments were controlled by Zionists and their monarchy are Jews. Just as today, with the rest of the western nations, it was the same, back then, fighting wars for the Jews, making them rich and destroying their enemies.
    Remember, the ‘Anglos’ are from Germany. The Angles, Saxons and Jutes came to the UK in the 1st millennium. The whole of Europe, predominantly shares common ancestry – Celtic and Germanic, with of course, Roman, Greek and Slav.
    And no, I do not think the Anglos should be exterminated. Not at all.
    There is only really one people on this earth that deserve extermination. They’ve been kicked out of lands over 1,000 times. They never learn. They continue to parasite and control the lands their in. They continue their revolutionary ways. They continue their deception and indoctrination of the host peoples, making their enemies the enemies of the host population. If any people on this earth should be exterminated, it’s them, long, long before any other. And I would imagine, with a name like yours, you’ll know of what people I’m speaking about.

    • Replies: @Malacaay
    , @Bookish1
  291. Malacaay says:

    It should be pointed out that Germans have had completely different policy and perspective toward the workers, their rights and socialism in general. It’s no Anglo exploitation plantation. German industries (like ThyssenKrupp Group e.g.) actually committed to socialism and actually built socialist tradition in their enterprise, by building of workers’ housing estates, also setting up a foundation for domestic health care, then convalescent homes which are available for sick employees and their families, as well as a dental clinic. Then funding maternity clinic. There were also some social traditions of paying visits to long-standing employees on special occasions, e.g. weddings, etc. I don’t know the scope and dimension of this commendable attitude, but it’s most likely a standard in Germany. Germans are curious people which shouldn’t be put into behavioral patterns of others, both other Euros and Anglos. Especially Anglos. General rule is that capitalist parasitism is extremely harmful and damaging for everyone: men and his civilization and the Nature itself. German administration and organization under socialist axiom would produce vastly superior results than that of capitalist parasitism. There is no doubt about that. I read somewhere that Stalin managed to achieve double digit growth rate year after year (on par of that of China nowadays). Germans would prove themselves to be superior in these results. Collective is always superior to any individualistic endeavor, especially if that endeavor in conceived as an exploitation scheme of personal enrichment. That’s like having to deal with minus (-) in equation wherever that parasitic capitalistic scheming emerges.

  292. dfordoom says: • Website
    @geokat62

    The proof for this is visible in Eastern European societies in which the Church has made a resurgence after the collapse of Bolshevism 1.0, Communism.

    The resurgence of Christianity in Eastern Europe is largely wishful thinking. The urban and middle-class segments of the population (and the young) are rapidly succumbing to secular liberalism, hedonism, consumerism and American popular culture. Christianity remains fairly strong in the countryside and among the old. It’s the same pattern as in western Europe and the US. It will follow the same trajectory.

    The apparent resurgence of Christianity after the end of communism was an illusion. There were still plenty of Christians under communism but they kept their heads down. After the fall of communism they could come out into the open. It’s not that their numbers increased – they simply became more visible. Christianity survived communism. Communism, paradoxically, preserved Christianity. It cannot survive the onslaught of globalist mass media and trash culture and the Social Justice push.

    Anatoly Karlin has discussed this issue at length here at UR. He argues that communism acted as a “freezer” preserving the key elements of traditional belief and sheltering those societies from the decadence and degeneracy of the West. Now the freezer has gone it’s only a matter of time before Christianity suffers the same fate there as ion the West.

    Globalism, secular liberalism and Social Justice are ideologies that have no intention of allowing Christianity to survive.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  293. Know that God Loves You

    [MORE]

    If death you fear whatever it may
    Then live you must a life of dismay.
    To choose to be ruled by finality
    Then live you must a life of banality.

    Man alone searching trough space
    Will never find another human face.
    In lust and pride our lives will stay
    Unless we learn in our hearts to pray.

    The universe in its grandeur be awed,
    Is a first step in coming to God.
    But how can He so infinite, wonderous and bright,
    Love me, so temporal, weak and slight?

    If you cannot love and cease from your grasping
    You will never be trusted or feel His clasping.
    Our form He took to show you the difference,
    The choice you make is the way to deliverance.

    Inflated we are and the higher you go,
    The more you miss the gateway below.
    Embarrassment and scorn to be ground in the mire,
    Are the lashes of love in order to aspire.

    The bow is bent for the arrow to speed
    With Christ into light your soul to lead.
    To taste only a drop from His vast mystic ocean
    You then will know His total love and devotion.

    And when you awake when all that is risen
    Be you of the chosen and no longer in prison.

  294. Cyrano says:
    @Malacaay

    What is communism? Socialism? Socialism is not communism, you simpleton. Communism is a political ideology which adopted socialism,

    I am going to have to disagree with you on that one, my Croat brother (I don’t mean that as an insult – the brother part). Socialism was envisioned as a stopgap on the way to Comunism. Therefore, socialism was not a milder form of communism, but harsher one.

    Communism was supposed to be the end of history utopia, where everything functions to perfection, all human beings are so highly evolved that there is no backstabbing, careerism, selfishness, sabotaging more competent co-workers for personal gain, no competition of any kind – in other words – pure bliss.

    So therefore if socialism is a stopgap on the way to communism, it didn’t make any sense for Hitler to have hated the communists so much, while professing himself to be a “socialist”. To be fair, Hitler didn’t invent that little propaganda gimmick – National Socialism – he joined the party after already it had been christened by someone else. But if he really despised the Jews so much, he could have changed the name of the party that “payed such a significant homage to the Jews”. But of course it didn’t pay any homage to the Jews, for the simple fact that it was totally phony and there was no socialism.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
    , @dfordoom
  295. Seraphim says:

    But what makes you so damn sure that Globalism, secular liberalism, Social Justice and Pussy Riot ideologies will be allowed to grow unchecked in Russia?
    And how is Christianity declining in Russia when three new churches are consecrated every day, bringing the number of churches to 40,000 and the number of candidates to priesthood is steadily growing? And the social work of the Church is also steadily growing? When the influence of the Church has led to a remarkable decrease in alcoholism and abortions?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  296. @Cyrano

    I’m not interested in teaching you about Communism. You can keep it, any form you like. But it is apparent you know less than nothing about National Socialism, so stop embarrassing yourself.

  297. @Malacaay

    In the hands of Jews it is. In the hands of Germans it becomes National Socialism. And further proof that for the Jews it was just a concept to lure people in, modern Communism (ie. Cultural Marxism) has shed itself of socialism, except when they need it to steal from you. In Hitlers Germany the socialism was real and a net benefit for the nation. When somebody tells me Hitlers socialism was not real (because it does not fit the Jewish definition) then I take great offense.

  298. @Cyrano

    The party Hitler joined was called Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. DAP. He is the one who changed it to NSDAP. The reason for this is simple, he wanted to appeal to the lower classes. That is also why their flag has so much red in it. He did it to lure Communists to his meetings. When he took power, these Communists were swiftly converted to National Socialism and became some of his most dedicated followers. Because as former Communists they had something to prove, and because the socialist aspect had a particularly strong draw on them.

    So if you want to say that National Socialism is not Socialism as thought up by Jews, this is correct. But if Hitler’s ideology is not Communism or Capitalism, then what is it? It is National Socialism. A concept completely separate from the former two. It is what Hitler called real socialism for the people. So to me this is Socialism. What Jews and leftists think is of no importance. I care about the real, not utopian theories.

  299. geokat62 says:
    @dfordoom

    Globalism, secular liberalism and Social Justice are ideologies that have no intention of allowing Christianity to survive.

    If we just use the short form for this toxic brew of Globalism, secular liberalism and Social Justice, we get a much clearer picture:

    Cultural Marxism has no intention of allowing Christianity to survive.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  300. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Cyrano

    Socialism was envisioned as a stopgap on the way to Comunism. Therefore, socialism was not a milder form of communism, but harsher one.

    Yes, in classical Marxist theory. But only in classical Marxist theory.

    Remember that socialism existed before Marx. There is a non-Marxist socialist tradition. There have always been plenty of socialists who are not Marxists and who do not subscribe to the utopian communist dream.

    Non-Marxist socialists don’t necessarily want to dismantle capitalism, they just want to control it for the benefit of society. And they don’t want to dismantle the state, just control it for the benefit of society.

    Historically non-Marxist socialists were often Christians. There’s no conflict between being a non-Marxist socialist and being a Christian.

    There were also communists who weren’t classical Marxists. Mao was a communist but whether he was a Marxist is debatable. He was either a heretical Marxist or a non-Marxist.

    There are lots of different schools of both socialism and communism.

  301. Malacaay says:
    @Harbinger

    Remember that Germanic tribe Vandals came to north Africa to today Tunisia. Visigothic kingdom which incorporated Iberian peninsula and parts of Francia fell against a very small Muslim force (around 10k, some scholars put the numero at 1.700 soldiers), and you know which language (and also culture) was set as official? Yea, Muslim Arabic. 10-15 thousand Muslimo Alah warriors managed to impose Arabic language, culture and religion on Iberia and Visigothic kingdom there. Arabs (Berbers and Bedouins) were 0% of population. There were other Norse Germanics who adopted Slavic ways, culture and language (a Viking tribe called the Rus). Celts comprise the vast majority of Brit population. There were also continentals like Normans with their le French army who invaded and conquered Anglos, that very small part of Saxons which came with Anglos and the vast majority of Celtic Briton population of course.

    I know exactly what you are talking about, Celt. I am sure you are innocent. No doubt in my mind. You are innocents and Jews are victims. And you are lied to this whole time; it’s not you who are lying, no. Do you know who you resemble? Those Phoenicians we earlier spoke of. They too were a civilization of maritime merchants. Merchants have always been a plague. Merchant culture is culture without honor, loyalty, integrity, morality, conviction or truth. Merchant by trade and craft is on crusade and pursuit to profit whom whichever endeavor he best can. The rule of acquisition states that the more criminal enterprise or endeavor is, the more profitable it becomes. Merchants are legitimized criminals, thieves, swindlers, fraudsters, deceivers, con-artists and scoundrels who are paying a percentage of their fleece to the state in terms of taxes, rates, tariffs and other costs.

  302. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Seraphim

    But what makes you so damn sure that Globalism, secular liberalism, Social Justice and Pussy Riot ideologies will be allowed to grow unchecked in Russia?

    Russia is not the same as the other eastern European countries. Russians have a better chance of resisting those destructive ideologies. They’re bigger and they have nukes. They have plenty of natural resources. They’re technologically advanced. They’re not so easy to push around. They also have much greater national and cultural self-confidence. The Americans will do everything they can to destroy Russia by imposing those destructive ideologies on them. Whether the Russians will succeed in resisting the onslaught remains to be seen.

    The other eastern European countries are clearly doomed. They’re weak, they’re EU members, their Russophobia inclines them to America-worship, they have little or no cultural self-confidence.

    Russia’s best hope is that American aggression will cause Russians to become fiercely anti-American.

  303. @Malacaay

    you glow in the dark chamaleonic jew always producing infighting to reign in the chaos
    hitler was right about your despicable kind

    • Replies: @Malacaay
  304. dfordoom says: • Website
    @geokat62

    If we just use the short form for this toxic brew of Globalism, secular liberalism and Social Justice, we get a much clearer picture:

    “Cultural Marxism has no intention of allowing Christianity to survive.”

    That actually makes the picture much less clear. Cultural Marxism is a useless term since Cultural Marxism is not Marxist, it’s not communist, it’s not socialist and it’s not leftist. Cultural Marxism is a tool for advancing the interests of global capitalism. It is fundamentally anti-Marxist, anti-communist, anti-socialist and anti-leftist.

    • Agree: Cyrano
    • Replies: @geokat62
  305. Malacaay says:
    @german anonm

    No wonder you lost everything. This is how your demise crept to you: by willingly subjugating yourselves because someone is living materially richer lives and have much, much bigger state, resources and army. If the ancient Greeks had behaved liked Germans today, they would have perished and by own will became Persian serfs and slaves. Instead a small Macedon people united Greek city-states and under their glorious leader blew away the Persians in mere several years. Songs will forever be sung celebrating their feat.

    Tut-tut, never lick ass of Anglos. If you haven’t learned by now never to do that, you never will. Unfortunately, it’s going to translate into another waves of torments for German people. It’s most unfortunate destiny, but obedience has its price. It’s German inability to learn which is concerning. Why do you torment yourselves? No good leadership can ever arise from obedience, conformity, docility and decadence. Germans have never had any great leaders (in part due to cultural environment). Anyhow, we have the best leaders in the world. Where one culture falls short, the other excels. Ours have always excel in leadership. Would it not be the best if Germans would cease their sufferings and allow us to lead them? Indeed, it would be the best for all. There is much glory to earn in this world.

  306. Bookish1 says:
    @Harbinger

    Just by the fact that someone has to argue why Anglos shouldn’t have to be exterminated shows that the world is way out of whack. Let’s subtract all the contributions that Anglos(germanics) have given the world throughout history and view how the world would be. Let’s see now for a start: no electricity, no automobiles, no airplanes—feel free to add to the list.

    • Agree: Harbinger
    • Replies: @Malacaay
  307. Bookish1 [AKA "rochester"] says:

    A long time ago I read that if whites were threatened too much we could bring down civilization very quickly by withdrawing our support. All whites stay home for a few days or weeks or months and watch what happens to the world. Everything collapses. America could live forever without blacks or jews or anyone else. But America couldn’t live a day if whites withdrew our support. So our white lives get uncomfortable for awhile but it would be worth it to make our point. The point being don’t screw with whites if you want the world to continue in its evolutionary journey. Now you might argue that that would be true of any race. But that isn’t so. Let all blacks stay home and do nothing and the world would go on.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  308. Malacaay says:
    @Bookish1

    Understand that people around the world have had enough of your degenerate “enlightened” liberal “culture” and tolerance of your cultural colonization of us. You are crying like those liberal “Jews.” Have you cried when you were exterminating native American people to take over their lands in Norte American continent? Noone is worse than Anglos, le French and the Dutch. Some come close like the African Bantu and the Czechs who are despicable people with repulsive sexual habits, perversions and public moral. African Bantu is prime criminal of Africa who has been mass killing, raping and even literally cannibalizing non-Bantu African people like the San or Pygmy people, and Anglo, le French and Dutch have been major colonialists responsible for genocides, and even extermination in some cases, of countless humanoid species and their cultures.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @Bookish1
  309. geokat62 says:
    @dfordoom

    Cultural Marxism is a tool for advancing the interests of global capitalism.

    Nice try morphing the original intent of Cultural Marxism.

    No, Cultural Marxism is first and foremost a tool for advancing the interests of Supremacist Jews, who developed it to defeat anti-semitism, not socialism. You should reread The Authoritarian Personality.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  310. Bookish1 [AKA "rochester"] says:
    @Malacaay

    Pure crap! That degenerate elightened liberal culture comes mainly from Jews. Oh yes, we were colocnizers but just the latest in world history. The fact is history has been full of colonizers and those colonizers back in history were no more better than the white colonizers. We didn’t exterminate the Indians because there are more Indians on the North American continent today than before the white man came. The true colonizers are Jews who have infiltrated every government worth infiltrating in the entire world. Whites brought many good things to countries that we colonized whereas Jews are and were strictly parasites taking whatever they could get their hands on and when finally kicked out of so many nations took their wealth with them leaving the populations that they left penniless. How about George Soros as an example. He screwed the Hungarians royally and doesn’t dare step foot in that country again.

    • Replies: @Malacaay
  311. dfordoom says: • Website
    @geokat62

    Cultural Marxism is a tool for advancing the interests of global capitalism.

    Nice try morphing the original intent of Cultural Marxism.

    The original intent and the current reality are two different things. In the here and now Cultural Marxism is a tool for advancing the interests of global capitalism.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  312. Malacaay says:
    @Bookish1

    “Enlightened” liberal “culture” didn’t come from the Jews, it came from you Protestants. That’s what degenerate movements of Enlightenment and Reformation were all about. Jews adopted your degenerate ways and expanded them. As for the real Americans whom Norte American continent belongs to, the so-called “Indians” (according to you Anglos), only 3 million of them are left where once tens of millions roamed throughout their lands in Norte American continent. The famous animal which provided sustenance for their kind, the American bison, is on the brink of extinction. In the late 18th century the American bison had had population of 60 million, while the species was down to 541 animals by 1889. Recovery efforts expanded in the mid-20th century went to a “resurgence” of 31,000 animals today, largely restricted to a few national parks and reservations. Between 20 and 100 million of real Americans, the native Americans, those descendants of native American Clovis civilization, were genocided in Anglo-European invasions of Norte American continent.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  313. Bookish1 [AKA "rochester"] says:
    @Malacaay

    there were not between 20 million and 100 million indians on the north american continent before the white man came. It just shows how full of bullshit you are.

    • Replies: @Malacaay
  314. Malacaay says:
    @Bookish1

    There were. They roamed all over Norte American continent. In the late 18th century, already after 2 centuries of mass slaughter of bisons (Anglos had a nasty habit of slaughtering a herd of bisons and leaving the meat to rot, for the killing of bisons was done for their prized skin), there were still around 60 million of bisons alive. That by itself indicates that large enough numero of Americans existed.

    If you want comparison, take a look what is happening nowadays in Africa where Afro is in the process of exterminating wildlife. In the late 50s or early 60s there was c. 450.000 lions in Africa. Do you know how many remain today? Less than 20.000. Who is responsible for such a gargantuan increase in Afro population (remember Afros were 250 million or roughly half of European population in mid 50s whereas now Afros are double the size of European population at 1.2 billion)? Liberals. When wildlife is gone, perhaps cannibalism will be back on the menu. Feeding Afros with liberals would be a great karmic way to get rid of liberal plague.

  315. Bookish1 says:
    @Malacaay

    How about the Mongols and the Muslim conquests just to name a few?

  316. @Bookish1

    The complex society that the European descended people maintain depends on, among other things, money and finance. If that goes, the European descended will not be able to maintain the current civilization, will be unable to productively use capital, as sales will be restricted to barter [1]. They will, perforce, stay home. Your scenario is not all that unlikely.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] When a container ship docks, banks lend the cargo recipients money to buy the cargoes, using the cargoes as security for the loans. This permits cargo recipients to pay for shipments with future income to be obtained by retail sales of the shipment’s contents. Back during the 2008 financial panic this broke down. Banks in the shipping countries were unwilling to accept payments from banks in the receiving countries, as the banks might be insolvent and their payment paper might be worthless. For a few days, trade stopped.
    Of course, then trade resumed. The Federal granting of money to some of the largest US banks ended the possibility of these banks issuing worthless paper. Had that not happened, then quite possibly trade would have failed to recover (ever wonder why anybody would consider Bitcoin or other cybercoin?).
    Without the complex system of exchange that the Federal Government and the Federal Reserve are, ah, tinkering with for trivial reasons, _nobody_ would be able to make land, labor, and capital worldwide anywhere near as productive as it is now. In which case, in effect, all the European descended would go home and stop being productive for society as a whole.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @Miro23
  317. Seraphim says:
    @dfordoom

    The unseen irony is that ‘Marxism’ is a tool of advancing the interests of global capitalism under the slogans of ‘liberating the masses from the oppressive capitalist system’. ‘Cultural Marxism’ is just a change of tactics for social change after the failure of violent revolutions in Western Europe (and the ‘Stalinist counter-revolution’ in Russia), devised by Antonio Gramsci (co-founder of the Italian Communist Party) and Carl Grünberg (the founder of the Frankfurt School). Both ‘Marxism’ and ‘Cultural Marxism’ had the same goal: the abolition of religion, family, private property and state, sexual freedom.
    Gramsci married Giulia Schucht ‘Russian citizen and ethnic Jew’, Bolshevik to boot and from a family intimately friends with Lenin.
    Another irony is that Mussolini was ‘discovered’ when he was an unknown socialist, “polished and educated” by and ‘romantically involved’ with Angelica Balabanova, a ‘Russian-Jewish-Italian communist and social democratic activist’ and ‘the first secretary of the Communist Third International in 1919 working alongside Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, and Emma Goldman (the ‘American’ anarcho-feminist)’.
    There is indeed a ‘family air’ between Bolshevism, Cultural Marxism and Fascism (and ‘Antifascism’ as well)! You may add ‘greenism’ to the soup.

    • Replies: @gurugeorge
  318. Bookish1 says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    And if sometime in the future the European descended stayed home wouldn’t also the whole world be forced to stay home?

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Counterinsurgency
  319. Miro23 says:
    @Bookish1

    @Counterinsurgency

    And if sometime in the future the European descended stayed home wouldn’t also the whole world be forced to stay home?

    Short answer: No

  320. Miro23 says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Back during the 2008 financial panic this broke down. Banks in the shipping countries were unwilling to accept payments from banks in the receiving countries, as the banks might be insolvent and their payment paper might be worthless. For a few days, trade stopped.

    Of course, then trade resumed. The Federal granting of money to some of the largest US banks ended the possibility of these banks issuing worthless paper.

    I remember those few days. Banks were desperate for cash and making crazy offers for new deposits. The system held together because the FED and EU central bank provided unlimited funding (i.e. every counter-party was officially credit worthy or would be bailed out).

    But, there was also the (not so obvious) implication that the banks accepted the currencies of the bailouts (US Dollars and Euros).

    If the Dollar loses its reserve status (i.e. its automatic convertibility into real world traded items like oil, commodities and Asian exports – which is quite possible), then it becomes radically less acceptable as a means of exchange – and wholesale printing just reduces its value by the same amount (i.e. it can no longer be used to bail anyone out).

  321. @Bookish1

    And if sometime in the future the European descended stayed home wouldn’t also the whole world be forced to stay home?

    That, or go into the street. Back in 1700s Europe it was remarked that when there was a famine, the first thing the urban population did was to burn down the bakeries.

    Counterinsurgency

  322. bjondo says:
    @anon

    Everyone should listen to a weasel, 3rd rate.

  323. Cking says:

    WWII was the most successful PsyOp ever. We may have fought two fascist powers in two hemispheres at once, fought Imperialism and racism, fought human extermination, and forcefully promoted the ideal that Yankee ingenuity and engineering could solve the world’s ills. JFK’s Administration typified this outlook. Nevertheless, the US sided with the Bolshevik, Soviet Power that massed its forces on Europe ready to destroy Catholic founded Western Civilization; and gave Catholic Poland and other little nations to this world domination. The ‘Crusade’ to wipe out fascist power may have been in the narrative but it was never the reality. FDR in a repeat of WWI, wanted America in WWII, employing the same characters, to help out the ‘markets’ as he himself was a bond trader and understood how the Fed actually worked; to organize America’s wealth, money and credit to wage war. WWI and WWII were fought, because war is profitable.

    In the post-WWII era, 14 people in the Administration, some were suspected Communists, or informers, and FDR himself were all killed off; the International Elites, centered in the City of London and Wall St. were horrified at the specter of the average, good, wholesome, American, who could wield power that could accomplish the seemingly impossible. Hollywood supplied the counterweight; Billy Wilder produced and directed several films portraying Americans, men and women, as seedy types who’d sell their bodies, rob, steal, and kill you in a minute for very temporary monetary gain. Eventually Hollywood would give the African American man ‘Super Fly’ as the ideal hero of Black counter-culture, setting off the era of blaxploitation films.

    The Soviet style forced relocation of the Catholic population out of the big US cities was already underway, operating under the cover of racial prerogatives demanded by the leaders of the Civil Rights era. Even good Americans typified by Eleanor Roosevelt detested Irish America and so a racial quota was inserted into immigration law; Slave labor was still available and demanded by the captains of business, industry, and the oligarchy. Labor Unions were subject to FBI investigations and DOJ prosecutions. The Fed is decidedly anti-Labor. Senator Jacob Javits and a representative from Brooklyn NY introduced new immigration legislation that would curtail immigration from Western Europe. (England, Ireland, Germany) This Anglo-American-Jewish Liberal power went on to kill JFK and RFK who were promoting Civil Rights, the reorganization of the Fed, the Peace Corps, national development in the National Water and Power Alliance and the space economy platform, the NASA Apollo Mission. All of this was slowly choked off. Instead the US economy would be organized under the Fed/Wall St. system of financial engineering, foisting usury and speculation on the population’s economy and the country continued under the forced march into the Perpetual War era, per the Fed’s organization. The Christian, national culture had no answer to materialism, greed, status seeking, and pornography unleashed on 1950’s society. Our parents and authorities could provide no defense, no counterattack, to the Drugs, Sex and Rock & Roll PsyOp on young America. Worse the US political system would not tolerate any alternative and pity the actor who tried.

    • Replies: @Peter Grafström
  324. @Seraphim

    “There is indeed a ‘family air’ between Bolshevism, Cultural Marxism and Fascism (and ‘Antifascism’ as well)! You may add ‘greenism’ to the soup.”

    The “family resemblance” you’re detecting is what Oakeshott and others have called “Rationalism in politics,” which is the use of politics to impose an idea or ideal on society (as if humanity were a topiary garden). (This is somewhat a mangling of Wittgenstein’s concept, but that to the side … 🙂 )

    This contrasts with what politics is by nature, which is: horse-trading between the various “houses” and “classes” in society that have their own power bases; the perpetual seeking of equilibrium and mutual accommodation.

    This presence of 18th century “Rationalism” in politics is what gives the erroneous “horseshoe” impression to some people. They say that Left and Right meet around the back – but liberalism and centrism also meet around the back, and have their own extreme forms (manifest now as “globalism”). It all depends on how far one departs from politics as horse-trading (the real “center”) to politics as idea-imposition (all the “extremisms” – which is to say, simply, more thoroughgoing and consistent pursuit of ideas and ideals by political means).

  325. @Cyrano

    No such party existed, but even Christian traditionalist parties supported labor unions and the welfare state, which had begun with Bismark in the late 19th Century. Hitler explains in Mein Kampf that the NSDAP was unified only in its philosophy of anti-Semitism (a phrase that didn’t exist in 1919), even though Marxism was inherently Jewish.

  326. @Mulegino1

    The whole era was masterminded by the British elite intellectuals.
    They lost but they gambled bigtime in the vain hope that they might be the last man standing after having played all the rivals/’allies’ against each other.
    Apart from the smaller nations they played Germany against Russia and the Us against Japan etc.
    Had Britain abstained from conspiring there would have been no world wars and Germany would have developed and traded with the middle east and more.
    Britain would have lost her dominant position in finance but there was room for trade for everybody.
    Surely without the losses on the battlefield of the young and without the indebtedness to the Us, Britains population would have been better off.
    It is hard to know what would have happened with Britains relation to India but the Bengal starvation during ww2 due to Churchills decisions didnt make the colonial subjects more enthusiastic about their colonial masters.
    So Britains descension from her former status was selfinflicted. They should have opted for win-win like China.

    And the mass immigration is not just blowback from imperialist wars, actually encouraged by a younger generation of british empire enthusiasts. No it is actually an end in itself already explained by the Fabians 80 years ago. It is part of a plan to mix the race of the common europeans with pigmented ethnicities so you can tell the rich from the poor europeans by the colour. Those British elite intellectuals were on both sides of the political spectrum at least in appearance but it didnt make them embarrassed to support eugenics for themselves and racial mixing for the masses.
    Also there is intent behind the trailing development in parts of the world. And that aids to make people emigrate. The malthusians systematically deny poor people to gain independence and the fruits of modernity. Thus everything that has gone wrong is part of a deliberate imperialist program.

  327. @Cking

    You say the Us gave little catholic Poland to Soviet world domination.
    But the truth is less flattering for Poland.
    Little Poland was just before a reckless aggressor against the russians and afterwards let tens of thousand perish in concentration camps while Russia was weakened by interventionists under angloamerican lead.
    Those angloamericans indeed gave the reds the power.
    But not intended for power.
    The idea was that they remain weak, and prevented from having an effective capitalist system.
    That they came out unexpectedly strong was probably the reason why Lenin was eliminated. On the other hand Britains Mackinder-inspired outlook almost demanded a Soviet power capable of matching Germany.
    And since, like you say, FDR wanted the same as the other parts of the oligarchy- profits, the bigger the war the more profits so instead of letting the Versaille deal sink Germany into oblivion they built up both sides.
    Gambling bigtime.
    In parallell Britain was gambling to make the Us and Japan match with the hope that Japan could prolong the war and wear down the Us.
    Americans tend to be blind to that aspect, despite the fact that there were ambitious ongoing preparations for a potential war with Britain, the emphasis being to occupy Canadas Halifax to prevent the British to land troops there.

    Paradoxically the Us let Britain advice them to weaken the navy for the purpose of aiding Japan, and seemingly unsuspecting or so impressed by the british that they didnt mind being played in this manner.
    The timing of all this has a surreal character but is probably due to the british-led manouevers of the angloamerican establishment. A similarly blanked out part of history is the so called Iranian revolution in 1979 in which case the Us/Uk organised it but pretend this wasnt so.
    And all leftists accept the angloamerican narrative. That those who normally sympathise with the anglocircles accept the false narrative is less surprising but the leftists really excel in allowing themselves to be mindcontrolled like sleepwalkers.

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