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The Western public has been so poorly served, in recent years, by its supposed world-class media organisations that any semblance of a coherent narrative explaining world events and tying together their deeper, underlying, causes to one another, has almost completely disappeared from the programming of the major networks. More often than not, international affairs are presented to us as a series of apparently unrelated events that simply “occur”, in most cases without any meaningful context or background being provided, or else, with a completely one-sided and deliberately misleading interpretation being force-fed to us by our “impartial” broadcasters.

This is especially true of coverage of the Middle East, a region where major interests, both financial and political, are at stake, and where, consequently, the powers-that-be desire to impart only the most superficial of understandings of the general situation to their populations. After all, we may one day need to be persuaded to send our sons off to die in a war against some recalcitrant country in the region and it wouldn’t do for us to have too nuanced and balanced an understanding of events there when the propaganda offensive begins and the time comes to fall in line.

Yet a profound transformation is taking place in the region and one which could have profound consequences; not only for the geopolitical landscape of the Middle East but also for the wider balance of world power.

The nation that has, so far, experienced the most extreme change is, without doubt, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Long regarded – by her admirers and detractors alike – as the exemplar of ‘hard-line’ Sunni traditionalism, the Kingdom is undergoing a startling transformation, one which, just a few years ago, would have been utterly unthinkable.

Western pop concerts are not only now permitted in the Kingdom but are actively sponsored by the government; women’s rights are, at least superficially, being brought somewhat in line with 21st century norms and a general “relaxation” of society is occurring under the guise of the government’s “Agenda 2030” and the supposed need for economic investment and tourism.

Whilst many more astute observers will point out that the ruling class in the country has always engaged in sinful “Western” behaviours – and much worse besides – and whilst it is certainly true that many of the changes in a country that was previously so brutal and oppressive might actually be a positive development for the people of that country – it must be understood that they are not occurring in a vacuum. The very speed and energy with which the government is imposing them upon the population indicates a wider agenda might well be at play here. (After all, the Saudi Government, which regularly dismembers petty criminals in public and which, just last year, was caught doing the same to a ‘hostile’ journalist held captive in one of its embassies in Turkey, can hardly be suspected of acting purely on humanitarian grounds!)

Alongside the, often crude, ”liberalisation” of the country a geopolitical revolution is taking place in the country’s foreign relations. A fundamental transformation is currently occurring in the Kingdom’s attitude to the traditional Arab enemy – Israel – although you would be hard pressed to hear much about it from the mainstream Western Media.

Saudi leaders now not only recognise Israel as a legitimate entity in the region but top Saudi journalists pray for her during Ramadan[1]https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/saudi-journalists-...-26604, whilst a recent article in the Israeli paper Haaretz (a fairly good source for such developments in the Kingdom) demonstrates how Saudi’s “army” of paid government trolls has been waging a relentless campaign to delegitimise the Palestinian cause, once considered unassailable across the Arab world, in favour of Israeli interests.[2]https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/premium-saudi-ar...572903

With increasing vehemence, Saudi officials and media personalities seek to turn popular anger away from Israel and onto Iran, arguing that she is the real threat to regional security and prosperity in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia, in spite of her official condemnations of the Zionist State, has never posed any military threat to Israel – unlike Ghadaffi’s Libya and Saddam’s Iraq, both of which were conveniently “neutralised” by her Western allies. It is, in fact, highly probable that the two nations have had some kind of behind the scenes “understanding” for many decades now. Much as with the government-enforced liberalisation, the issue is not so much that such a rapprochement should be occurring – the real problem is that it is happening so brazenly and without serious pushback on the part of the wider Sunni world. We must consider what this might mean for the government’s future actions in the region if the Arab population simply allows them to so radically shift the geopolitical narrative without any signs of serious resistance.

It must also be remembered that Mohammed Bin Salman, the son of the ruling monarch but widely regarded as the de facto leader of the country, rose to his current position power by means of a sudden coup in 2017 – the precise details of which still remain shrouded in mystery to this day. This led to many of the most wealthy and powerful figures in the country being arrested and, according to some reports, even tortured on his orders. As we will see, in the case of many other countries in the region discussed here, this situation is not unique to Saudi Arabia. It seems obvious that any leader who has survived a coup against him by his own country’s military and intelligence services – or has successfully launched one himself – is highly likely to have done so with the assistance of one or more foreign intelligence services. Afterwards, it is likely that he will find himself, to a greater or lesser extent, beholden to them. In the case of Mohammed Bin Salman, as with others who have taken the same path to power in recent years, this is especially probable given the power and wealth of many of the people he was forced to humiliate and dispossess in the process and his subsequent need for protection and support.

The fact remains that Israeli-Saudi relations have never been better, in the history of either country. So close have relations between them become, that the Kingdom is widely rumoured to have invited Israeli investors and tech giants to invest in its futuristic, multi-billion dollar project, Neom.[3]http://nocamels.com/2017/11/smart-city-eilat-israel...rabia/ This is the plan to create a 21st century “city-state” on the North-Western border of Saudi Arabia – one which is intended to become semi-autonomous from the central government, having its own separate laws and customs. It is easy to see how this could benefit Israel – an emerging technological and cyber global power – as Neom is intended to be the first “A.I.” city in the world, running on sustainable energy and filled with robotic workers linked together by the ‘Internet of Things”.[4]https://archpaper.com/2017/10/saudi-arabia-neom-500-...-city/ Whether it ultimately turns out to be the basis for a new Middle-Eastern power-hub or a mere desert mirage to fool unwise investors remains to be seen.

 

One of the other main partners in this ambitious venture is Egypt onto whose territory, like that of Jordan, the new city-state of Neom is set to encroach.[5]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-16/s...y-neom Whilst Egypt has more of a tradition of Western-style liberalism – with a more secular, nationalist military vying against a populist Islamist movement in the form of the Muslim Brotherhood – it has also undergone a kind of “forced liberalisation” in recent years via the official media and state institutions. As in the case of Saudi Arabia, this also occurred after a risky coup in which powerful and connected figures were displaced and following which Egyptian-Israeli relations rapidly improved.

The coup in that country occurred during the July of 2013 when General Sisi, who underwent military training in the U.S and the U.K, overthrew the populist Muslim Brotherhood government and imprisoned its leader Mohammed Morsi (who has since died standing trial).

Whilst the Muslim Brotherhood may be regarded as distasteful by many in the West, especially as a result of incidents of undeniable persecution of the Christian minority at its hands, it is nonetheless true that it was extremely popular amongst Egypt’s majority Sunni population. They were particularly favoured by the lower classes and the rural population who voted them into power. It is also notable that Mohammed Morsi himself was engaged in questioning the legitimacy of Israel and supporting the Palestinian cause during his, brief, tenure in power.

Let us finally turn to Turkey – a contrary example that might help to shed light on wider regional trends and help us to discern the geopolitical interests that might lie behind the many significant changes that have occurred there in recent years. Once again a coup – this time a failed one against the ruling president Reccep Tayip Erdogan in July of 2016 – seemed to set the country on a radically different path, geopolitically, than the one it had been following up until that point.

In this case however, the result did not seem to be a sudden thawing in Turkish-Israeli relations or a rapid, forced “Westernisation” of the country but rather a sudden move away from America towards Russia. This change of allegiance was all the more unexpected given the fact that relations between the two countries had been steadily worsening for years. This was largely due to Turkey’s having effectively acted as the West’s proxy against Russia in Syria. Relations reached a nadir after Turkey shot down a Russian jet, which had strayed briefly into her territory, and a Turkish-backed militia killed one of the pilots after he ejected himself from the burning aircraft. Her subsequent embrace of Russia is particularly grave, from the point of view of the West, as it threatens to seriously undermine the NATO alliance in which Turkey – as its main outpost in the region – was a key player.

Since the failed coup there appears to be no sign of the sudden friendliness between the two nations abating: with Turkey purchasing military hardware from the Russians and cooperating with them across the region. Turkey also continues to loudly oppose what it sees as Israeli crimes in Palestine, in contrast to the recent silence of other Middle Eastern powers. As in the case of Saudi Arabia and Egypt, we can only work with the information that is currently available to us and make our own conjectures accordingly. Does it not seem probable, in all three cases, that the sudden eruption of the coups and the subsequent, drastic shift in certain key geopolitical alignments might be directly related?

Anybody who has been following mainstream Western media cannot have failed to notice a steady increase in the drive towards war with Iran – especially if they live in America, from which the majority of recruits for such a conflict are likely to be drawn. The usual precursors of such a major conflict are starting to appear with alarming regularity on the nightly news bulletins: international sanctions, breakdown in diplomacy, “incidents” on the coastline surrounding one of the opposing nations, tit for tat actions by the major countries involved etc. etc.

This drive is being led by three nations in particular: namely Israel, Saudi Arabia and America. All three are seeking to portray Iran as the major threat to regional stability. They are also attempting to paint her as the major sponsor of anti-Western terrorism. This is particularly laughable, given the fact that not one of the major attacks – that have killed hundreds across the West in recent decades – can be traced back to her, which cannot be said for Saudi Arabia, the U.A.E. or Qatar. The truth is that Iran is a major threat to the regional hegemony of these powers. After Russia, it is principally Iran and her allies in Hezbollah and the Houthi movement who have prevented the Americans, Israelis and Saudis from imposing their will upon the region and removing regimes considered hostile to their interests. At the same time, Iran is weaker than Russia and is probably regarded as a suitable first target for elimination, after which, deprived of her main regional ally, Russia might perhaps prove more ‘amenable’ to Western overtures.

Here in the West, the population, held captive by a deceptive media and a corrupt and cynical political class, can only watch these developments with the hope that they do not escalate further. However, if we at least attempt to apply logic and historical precedent to the situation, we may be able to discern the hidden hands that are stirring tension across the region. Then, perhaps, we can at least avoid being dragged into yet another foreign war in defence of somebody else’s national interests.

Charlie O’Neill is a freelance writer specialising in History and Geopolitics.

Notes

[1] https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/saudi-journalists-pray-for-israel-during-ramadan-26604

[2] https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/premium-saudi-arabia-s-troll-army-has-a-new-target-palestinians-1.7572903

[3] http://nocamels.com/2017/11/smart-city-eilat-israel-saudi-arabia/

[4] https://archpaper.com/2017/10/saudi-arabia-neom-500-billion-mega-city/

[5] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-16/saudi-arabia-to-begin-building-homes-in-futuristic-city-neom

 
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  1. chris says:

    I think “Hidden Hand” would have sufficed.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  2. Ghali says:

    The Western media and Western political class are owned by Zionist Jews. The aim is the demonisation and overt persecution of the Palestinian people and the expansion of Zionism, Israel.

    • Agree: Druid, Moi
  3. @Ghali

    All of the people in the western world are now Palestinians……they just don’t know it yet.

  4. Dan Hayes says:

    Charlie O’Neill:

    Interesting perspective. This essay tied up what until now was a lot of loose ends!

  5. Alfred says:

    I think the idea that the USA and its few remaining allies are preparing to attack Iran is laughable. The idea that Saudi Arabia has become a more tolerant society ridiculous. It is all window-dressing.

    The boot is now very much on the other foot. I suspect that Iran carried out the recent false flags against tankers close to the UAE. They are doing exactly what the USA used to do in order to initiate a war. They are not going to wait to be suffocated by the ongoing embargoes and sanctions. It is very much to their advantage to move the date of the inevitable hostilities forward. I suspect Russia and China are doing all they can to prevent them from doing so. American bases in the region are hostage to Iran.

    The Iranians have made it clear that in the event they are attacked, Israel would be largely inoperable in 30 minutes. The Israelis have absolutely no ability to withstand any losses. They have inflicted pain on others for decades and have forgotten what it feels like. There would be a mass-exodus of the Jewish middle class – who mostly have 2nd passports.

    Qatar, where the biggest US military base in the region is based, is already an ally of Iran in all but name. Bahrain, where the US navy is based, is a Shia stronghold. The UAE has sent envoys to Iran to apologise for allowing a US spy plane – the one that got shot down by the Iranians – to take off from one of their airfields. They are making peace-overtures to Iran and withdrawing their forces from Yemen. Currently, the Saudi proxies are fighting the Emirati proxies in Aden.

    Here is something from the Irish Times – a paper that has yet to be bought up by Zionists.

    Iran meeting may indicate UAE’s intention to distance itself from Saudis

    Here are the regional nations that have flipped to the side of Iran: Oman, UAE, Qatar, Iraq and Turkey. These countries know full well that the USA and Israel are a spent force. The Eastern province of Saudi Arabia – where the oil lies – is Shia. The Iranians have no intention of destroying Saudi oil installations – because they might soon control them.

    The writer of this article would do well to peruse some local news sources and not rely so heavily on the mainstream media.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    , @FB
  6. renfro says:

    Bad new for Trump, Netanyahu and Kushner’s gang.
    Crown Prince MbS is fading fast. His father the King has taken back some control. Other Arab leaders are pulling out of his Yemen war. King Salman has refused to accept any plans for Palestines except a 2 state solution and the Arab Peace Initiative offered before.

    Mohammad bin Salman’s Waning Influence
    August 5, 2019Emile Nakhleh

    https://lobelog.com/mohammad-bin-salmans-waning-influence/

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  7. @chris

    Yeah, that’s what he’s really lacking: a knowledge of Oded Yinon, Clean Break, etc. He’s like me 15 years ago. But maybe he, too, will figure it out someday …

    • Replies: @chris
  8. gotmituns says:

    Exploring Geopolitical Trends in the Region
    —————————————————
    I don’t give a rat’s behind about the Mideast. It’s none of our affair – get out and stay out.

    • Replies: @Kelso
  9. So, Saudi Arabia is building its future by an alliance with women and Judaism. Good luck, they’ll need it.

    As to the overall picture, the disorganization of the US into ethnic groups under Obama and the continuation of that under Trump (who is, since the Federal government’s permanent staff opposes him, a weak president) has most groups betting, world wide, that the US won’t intervene in their local disputes. Consequently, they are fighting and cooperating as they see fit, and a new equilibrium is forming. Also, the sun rises in the morning.

    This trend is long established [1], and I doubt it can be changed.

    Even the change in Saudi Arabia has to do with this trend. Saudi Arabia is apparently betting that they can survive as a high income Arab state if they have a large qualitative and economic superiority over their much more poor neighbors. I really hope their efforts work better for them than did Russian efforts to Westernize.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] First mention of the trend I’m aware of:
    Martin van Creveld, “The Fate of the State,” _Parameters_, Spring 1996.
    http://strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/parameters/Articles/96spring/creveld.htm

  10. “…as Neom is intended to be the first “A.I.” city in the world…”

    The Wachowski siblings predicted this 16 years ago, and in almost the exact same place.

    https://matrix.fandom.com/wiki/01

  11. Druid says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Agree. Button is already used. I wish Unz would let us at our leisure!

  12. A.R. says:

    Unfortunately here in Europe most if not all politicians and media are simply following the U.S. line.
    Large parts of european populations are also blindly trusting the mainstream narratives, though some do due to religious reasons instead of political ones.
    Whenever there is some “official resistance” to these policies it is mostly symbolic.
    It is a sad state of affairs. At this point in time when most people have access to unprecedented information recources, via the internet, there still seems to be not much interest in actually utilizing these resources.
    People are too used to being force fed their information. There are no critical thinking abilities to speak of in the general population. The barrage of propaganda people are being subjected to ( from every direction and at all times ) is simply impossible to withstand for most.
    Parts of the population that think of themselves as “woke”, informed and as “The Resistance” are just as misinformed and deceived ( if not more ) as the sheeplike masses they claim superiority over.

    • Replies: @ababush
  13. Barnaby says:

    “However, if we at least attempt to apply logic and historical precedent to the situation, we may be able to discern the hidden hands that are stirring tension across the region.”

    For discernment provided in spades see every article in the Unz Review by Philip Giraldi.

  14. Svevlad says:

    Interesting… Not it all makes a lot of sense. Neom could very well be where the current elite relocates after they completely destroy the USA

  15. GeeBee says:

    An excellent piece, but I was slightly surprised that it did not go on to examine the de facto alliance that appears to be growing between Iran and Russia. Everything surely depends on the scope and extent of this alliance. If it is firm and committed, then Zio-America is stirring up a hornet’s nest by its sabre-rattling. And is the Trump administration really naïve, mad or stupid enough not to understand the consequences in the face of a strong Russo-Persian alliance? The US body count will dwarf the combined total of all its recent illegal and criminal undertakings on behalf of its puppet-masters. How will a six-figure sum of American dead be sold to its public, when ‘only’ 58,000 American military personnel died in the Vietnam conflict? Media control can only ever extend so far.

  16. Russia may be Iran’s main regional ally: but Iran is also vital to Russia’s strategic interests. It cannot allow Tehran to fall. That would destabilize Central Asia and the Caucasus, Moscow’s backyard. In that sense they are equal partners. While the US is allied with Israel and Saudi Arabia in pursuit of regional hegemony, Washington has wider interests threatening to bring it into confrontation with Russia, and China, which also has core interests to protect. That confrontation will be a world, not a regional, war. The pattern of history shows there is already historical precedent for such events leading to world war – this time nuclear war.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  17. gT says:

    Very superficial article. The hidden hands in the Middle East started during WW1. The Ottomans wanted nothing to do with Jews or the concept of Israel, there were few Jews in the Ottoman territory of Palestine at that point in time. The Ottomans controlled Mecca and Medina, the Caliphate was Turkish. What happened then was that the Arabs collaborated with the British against the rightful Turkish Caliphate eventually resulting in the formation of both Saudi Arabia and Israel.

    So Saudi Arabia and Israel have always been closely intertwined, the House of Saud is even reputed to be crypto-Jews. The Neom project, in the North West of Saudi Arabia, is precisely the region where the Jews are thought to have originated. The Jews never made it to Egypt proper, the closest they came was the Sinai peninsula. All of the biblical stories happened in the Sinai and Saudi Arabia.

    Even the Islam religion itself is thought to have been started by Jews. Saudi Arabia and Israel couldn’t take on Iraq, so the US obliged. Saudi Arabia and Israel can’t take on Iran, but if the US obliges this time the US will be finished because Iran is on Russia’s border (Caspian Sea) so it will be a walk in the park for Russia to assist Iran to drag things out and attrition the life out of the US. Vietnam was a minor skirmish.

    • Replies: @Heywood Jablomi
    , @Malla
  18. Zionist organizations/ think tanks such as Brooking Institution are active in Saudi Arabia.
    In 2002, Haim Saban bought a chunk of that formerly-esteemed American policy center
    https://www.brookings.edu/news-releases/brookings-announces-new-saban-center-for-middle-east-policy/

    “Made possible by a generous founding grant from Mr. Haim Saban of Los Angeles, the Saban Center will permit the Brookings Institution to dramatically expand its research and analysis of Middle East policy issues at a time when the region has assumed a dominant position on the U.S. foreign policy agenda.

    “After September 11, American interests in countering terrorism, promoting peace, preventing proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and preserving regional stability all converged on the Middle East,” Armacost noted. “The generosity of Haim Saban will enable Brookings to expand significantly its circle of experts who will conduct original research and develop innovative programs to promote a better understanding of the policy choices facing American decision-makers.” “

    A 2010 New Yorker magazine profile of Saban said:

    His greatest concern, he says, is to protect Israel, by strengthening the United States-Israel relationship. At a conference last fall [2006] in Israel, Saban described his formula. His “three ways to be influential in American politics,” he said, were: make donations to political parties, establish think tanks, and control media outlets.

    In 2007, Grant Smith, the Herculean head of Institute for Research: Middle East Policy (IRMEP), wrote of Saban’s action:

    11/21/2007 Excerpt from the book “Foreign Agents”
    Why AIPAC took over Brookings
    By targeting and taking over Middle East policy at Brookings in 2002, Saban and Indyk were able to “leapfrog” AIPAC messaging from second to last in the think tank market (WINEP had only 2%) to first place. Taking over Brookings also made it appear to Americans that there was now an “expert consensus” from “right to left” on the key Middle East policy issue of the year: the US invasion of Iraq on weapons of mass destruction pretexts. Brookings is often portrayed as a “centrist to left think tank” in the corporate news media. According to FAIR, “Progressive or Left-Leaning” media citations were a small but important segment of the marketplace of ideas, but combined with “centrist”, they represented the majority. For Saban and Indyk, taking over Brookings Middle East policy in 2002 meant penetrating the 63% of the marketplace of ideas that was generally not beating a drum for war in Iraq.

    Saban has supported Hillary Clinton financially and in other ways, probably since the Clintons were in the White House, but demonstrably once the Clintons bought their house in New York state in 2000 in preparation for Hill’s successful run for the senate — heavily backed by Saban money.
    Team Clinton’s Favorite Billionaire
    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/haim-saban-hillary-clinton-donor-230711

    Hillary has been Saban’s creature throughout her-post Lewinsky life.

    Sher glad we dodged that Hillary bullet & voted in tRump, say what.

  19. Who will fight this war with iran? They wont go slowly into the night but fight tooth and nail. Remember Hezbollah never even called up its reserves and the entire war was fought with their regular forces already stationed there numbering a few thousand at most and only a few hundred directly being engaged.

    Before Iran goes, they will make sure the world economy will for ever be changed. With regime changes in all ME and maybe even in other countries from unhappy populations.

    • Agree: Alfred
  20. The open hand of zionism is the agent provocateur behind the wars of destruction in the middle east and has the zio/US and zio/Britain and their creation AL CIADA aka ISIS doing their dirty work for the Israelis in destroying Iraq and Libya and Syria and Yemen and next is Iran.

    This open hand of zionism got the ball rolling with the joint Israeli and zio/US attack on the WTC , which was blamed on the muslims and then all hell broke loose on the middle east. Syria then became a target of the open hand of zionism but Russia stepped in and saved Syria from the open hand although the battle is still on going and thank God for Putin and Russia for saving Syria.

    The open hand of zionism is also behind the genocide/holocaust going on in Palestine where Palestinians are shot and killed almost daily without a word about this genocide in the zio/US MSM and of course this is to be expected as the MSM is owned by the zionists! The Israeli creation Hamas is used as an excuse to bomb the hell out of Palestine and destroy the country as part of the Mossads motto to wage war by deception!

    The hidden hand is quite the open hand for anyone who knows what is going on in the middle east.

    • Agree: Durruti
    • Replies: @the grand wazoo
  21. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    …Saudi’s “army” of paid government trolls has been waging a relentless campaign to delegitimise the Palestinian cause, once considered unassailable across the Arab world, in favour of Israeli interests.

    There are many, many paid shill (trolling is something else) armies on the Internet. In a just world this would be highly illegal and harshly punished since it’s making a mockery of the principle of “informed public” and democracy. When this is over and the globalist “masters of the universe” lose, we’ll need a lot of prison space to absorb the trash. Personally, I’d prefer a remote volcanic island – an active volcanic island to be exact.

    So close have relations between them become, that the Kingdom is widely rumoured to have invited Israeli investors and tech giants to invest in its futuristic, multi-billion dollar project, Neom.[3] This is the plan to create a 21st century “city-state” on the North-Western border of Saudi Arabia – one which is intended to become semi-autonomous from the central government, having its own separate laws and customs. It is easy to see how this could benefit Israel – an emerging technological and cyber global power – as Neom is intended to be the first “A.I.” city in the world, running on sustainable energy and filled with robotic workers linked together by the ‘Internet of Things”.[4] Whether it ultimately turns out to be the basis for a new Middle-Eastern power-hub or a mere desert mirage to fool unwise investors remains to be seen.

    When Zero Hedge published an article on the subject many commenters noted the proximity of Israel to the planned city. Curious.

    Why Is Saudi Arabia Giving Up Land The Size Of Massachusetts For “The World’s First Independent International Zone”?

  22. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Absolutely – and we’re waking up. It’s only a matter of time before a sufficient percentage of the (8 billion strong) goyim wake up and end the parasite.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  23. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    With Shadow President Kushner being the best buddy of the area’s two most despotic, terrorist leaders Nuttyahoo and MBS, it’s easy to read the writing on the wall.

    Anytime it gets too hot in the WH for the lame-ass carny clown Trump, he can count on Kushner using his terrorist connections to pull off some murderous attack, that the clownish MSM will cover endlessly, and wind up blaming Russia.

  24. Is Iran really weaker than Russia?

    Technologically, yes. It’s also weaker economically.

    OTOH, Iran has a rising population, totally different to Russia’s ongoing demographic crisis. The Iranian population increase occurs against a backdrop of policies to curb it, which means that Iran could increase the increase to its population size (talking about the second derivative here) at the drop of a hat. Russia could not even dream of being in such a situation.

    Unlike Russia, Iran is not officially a democracy either. Iran has a system of officially limited democracy yielding to the supreme authority of a clerical elite, guarded by aptly called revolutionary guards. This system has withstood decades of Western attempts to topple it. Iran is much better able to hold its liberal, Westernized middle class in check than Russia.

    The biggest difference is the one in ideology. Iran has the Shia branch of Islam, what does Russia have? The Putin government tries to ally itself with the Russian Orthodox church, but the church has much less influence on Russian society than Shiite religiosity has on Iran. Iran is a Shiite country through and through. The Iranian regime can count on millions of committed followers to defend it to the death. Nothing of the same kind can be said about the Putin government.

    Unlike Russia, Iran also has geography on its side. Russia can be invaded from all directions, Iran is a mountain fortress overlooking the straights of Hormuz to boot.

    Russia and Iran have complementary strengths and weaknesses. Russia cannot allow Iran to fail, but you have to wonder whether Iran should not lend a helping hand to Russia in dealing with its fifth-column liberals.

    • LOL: FB
    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @O rly
    , @Kouros
  25. Israel was created to be the cancer of the Middle East, a constant source of instability and wars in this oil rich region and to prevent the Arabs, people of same language and religion, from uniting into one economic and political block, progressing socially, and threatening western imperialist interests and designs. How convenient for some that there should be such a state in such a location. Are Jews the dupes being used by others or are they the ones behind it all?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Hossein
  26. @Commentator Mike

    Are Jews the dupes being used by others or are they the ones behind it all?

    Who do you think was smarter, Arthur Balfour or Lord Rothschild?

    In the duo Winston Churchill and the Rothschilds, who was the debtor and who was the creditor?

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Patricus
  27. @Alfred

    Interesting scenario!

    Iran stages an incident and declares war on the US, ending up with a sizeable set of dependencies in the Middle East, cementing its government’s power, and advancing Shia Islam. Interesting scenario. Possible large gains, possible large losses. Maximax all the way.
    Just the sort of thing that absolute governments like.

    My guess is that the downside would be destruction by Israel with a “use it or lose it” nuclear attack should Iran appear on the verge of success.

    This is the _kind_ of de-stabilizing attack one would expect as US ability to intervene declines.

    Oh, I could be a Statesman
    and no one would ask why
    but the kinds of things the Statesmen do,
    they make me want to cry.
    to the tune of “I Just Don’t Want to Be Rich “, search Youtube for original.

    Counterinsurgency

  28. @Anonymous

    Absolutely – and we’re waking up. It’s only a matter of time . . .

    The historical interval kicked off by the World Wars is most definitely coming to an end, and its only a matter of time until a number of significant things happen. If only I knew what they were . . .

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Ace
  29. Durruti says:
    @Ghali

    Some reason cannot use the Agree button.

    AGREE

  30. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Whatever plans they have to stop this awakening can only accelerate their demise.

  31. Agent76 says:

    Jun 4, 2019 WAR and DECEPTION

    In reality, America is ruled by an oligarchy, America’s 60 families, a de facto government according to Ferdinand Lundberg. This “shadow government” has controlled the top levels of the US government for most of our nation’s history.

    May 18, 2019 The Truth-Teller: From the Pentagon Papers to the Doomsday Machine

    The growth of the military-industrial complex poses an existential threat to humanity. Daniel Ellsberg, peace activist and Vietnam War whistleblower discusses with Tellus Senior Fellow Allen White the continuing existential threat posed by the military-industrial complex—and what needs to be done about it.

    https://greattransition.org/publication/truth-pentagon-papers-doomsday-machine

    MARCH 13, 2019 ‘Imperialism on Trial’ tour comes to Northern Ireland on March 19th and 21st

    Next week, the Imperialism on Trial tour comes to Belfast, Northern Ireland, and will include an impressive line-up of speakers, including two former British Ambassadors, a former British soldier, an Irish Republican writer, and a veteran CIA analyst – each presenting their own analysis of world events, and interrogating the role played at home and abroad – by western powers.

    https://21stcenturywire.com/2019/03/13/imperialism-on-trial-tour-comes-to-northern-ireland-on-march-19th-and-21st/

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  32. @gT

    Benjamin D ISRAELI Get it?

  33. The nation that has, so far, experienced the most extreme change is, without doubt, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Long regarded – by her admirers and detractors alike – as the exemplar of ‘hard-line’ Sunni traditionalism, the Kingdom is undergoing a startling transformation, one which, just a few years ago, would have been utterly unthinkable.

    You article contains two major issue. One you have rightly identified but haven’t realized the significance of it. Another the other one you have completely missed the boat. I call these two well connected issue as Horse and Cart.

    Horse: It is the religious issue which you call, “as the exemplar of ‘hard-line’ Sunni traditionalism”. Basically, all those King and Princes have thrown the issue of Caliphate under the bus. They don’t want their countries to be ruled by Turkey as one Caliph rules them all. They are happy with their own but small, small Kingdoms. I wouldn’t call KSA as small Kingdom, by the amount it is generating for the House of Sauds. Caliph Baghdadi of ISIS was godsend to them, as the Ummah no longer yearns for Caliphate anymore.

    Therefore, the House of Prophet Mohammad is in and the House of Omayyad is out. Mohammad’s uncle abu Sufyan al-Omayyad was the head of Omayyad tribe. A powerful man who ruled Mecca and accumulated the wealth which was generated by Mecca. Mohammad was a threat to his kingdom, and he fought with hook and crook against Mohammad to safeguard his kingdom. At the end when he was fully defeated he become a Muslim. The Arch Enemy of Mohammad.

    Mohammad started with religion but at his death he wound up with an Empire. An Empire which was generating massive revenue and now abu Sufyan was gleeful and as he never dreamed the amount of money being generated. The Empire was no longer a Religious State but a Large Political Commercial Organization. Abu Sufyan, the mighty powerful even though defeated was still pulling the strings. A new concept was created to further generate a ton (umpteen) of revenue is the concept of “preemptive wars”. More and more Muslims were added to fill the coffers. Anyhow, to make the story short, abu Sufyan was successful to install his son as Fifth Caliph. And, from there on the Caliphate become dynasty, The Dynasty of Omayyad.

    Mohammad’s all family including his grandson Hussain was murdered by Yazid, the grandson of abu Sufyan. Yazid holding the decapitated head of Hussain, hitting the dead face with a stick and boasting, that your grandfather took away Mecca from us, and left us an EMPIRE.

    The Wahhabis are the lovers of The Dynasty of Omayyad and hate the House of Mohammad. Since, the Caliphate is thrown under the bus, the true history of Islam is now being taught with the love of House of Mohammad and hatred of The Omayyad Dynasty. Of course, the young don’t care as you have rightly said, and they support it with hearts and minds. It is the old generation, which has been brainwashed for decades. The KSA is being careful, but the process is already taking shape, slowly but surely. The young generation will never know the transformation.

    So, what is the Significance: The love of House of Mohammad is in and the true history of Islam is being taught now. Not the history of the winners, which was changed by the Omayyad Dynasty. So, both Sunni and Shia are coming together after 1500 years.

    I will talk about the Cart in my next post Cart being al-Quds Mosque which is tied to the Palestinians issue.

  34. @renfro

    Saudi Arabia’s “drift” to better relations with Israel started in 1975 when King Faisal, the oil embargo anti-Israel, and pro Palestinian cause King, was assassinated by a nephew, who had just returned from the US (purely co-incidental, of course).
    It was Faisal, became King in his own bloodless coup, that started reforms in Saudi Arabia. He was a pan-Islamist as opposed to Nassar’s pan-Arabist, and was open to mending fences with Shia while suppressing Wahabbism. Bin Salman is entirely a product of the CIA/MI-6/Mossad.

    • Agree: Iris
  35. @Ghali

    That’s correct. There is no hidden hand just the foot of Israel on the throats of American Politicians. The Saudis are in bed with the Jews. Israel fears Iran and so does Saudi Arabia because Israel’s ground troops would be toast against Iran. Furthermore, Iran could hit Israel’s main cities with missiles. They wouldn’t use nukes….which would threaten their own existence. That’s why they need the US to be their War Whore. As long as we are their War Whore they will continue stealing land, and murdering anyone who gets in their way. Without the US they would be nothing more than an ant in the universe and they know it.

    The best scenario would be that Israel does something really stupid to Iran and then Iran unloads on them. The US would not want a land war with Iran because they might get their asses kicked. As long as Israel exists the world will be in peril.

  36. Saudi leaders now not only recognise Israel as a legitimate entity in the region but top Saudi journalists pray for her during Ramadan[1], whilst a recent article in the Israeli paper Haaretz (a fairly good source for such developments in the Kingdom) demonstrates how Saudi’s “army” of paid government trolls has been waging a relentless campaign to delegitimise the Palestinian cause, once considered unassailable across the Arab world, in favour of Israeli interests.

    Here is where you got everything wrong. The Cart is not Palestinian cause but al-Quds Mosque. When I was 20, the very first time in 1972 I landed in USA, I was not aware of Judaism and Christianity. We lived in Dubai, when we went to cinema, which had the only tax, it was for “Palestinian Tax”. None of the young were happy as it increased the price of the ticket.

    I learned about Judaism and Christianity, and the Third Temple. Being young, I saw that the Palestinians were losers as they were making it a religious issue. The Jews were livid as they had the might of Christians behind them, especially those Christians for their benefit were pushing for The Third Temple.

    And, then KSA late King Abdullah peace plan for recognizing Israel by all Muslim countries if Isreal moved to 1967 borders. He was outright rejected by Israel. Then I saw that the al-Quds issue is NOT a Palestinian issue but a MUSLIM Issue. No Muslim will ever compromise on this issue, so no Third Temple. I saw the wisdom, forbearance and patients of the Palestinian, a group of People who are admired by the Righteous of the World.

    Then I saw, USA is not incompetent. The Shia crescent becoming stronger every day. Look at the map you have posted. Look at Bab al-Mandeb, where Israel access to oceans is through the narrow passage of Yemen which is now controlled by Iran, and the Yemen war or the lack of Yemen war started to make sense. Look at the reality on the ground, where is Iran is at home, but Israel is surrounded by the Shia crescent, especially Iran.

    The Muslims are all in cahoots when it comes to al-Quds Mosque. It is not a sectarian issue. Especially, the love of House of Mohammad is now in.

    • Replies: @niceland
  37. Alfred says:
    @RichardMunter

    The days when the number of soldiers on each side was very important are over. Now, war is much more automated and, as always, it is dependent on the training, intelligence and motivation of the soldiers on each side.

    The mercenaries of ISIS are certainly motivated, trained and well-equipped, but they seem to be losing 10+ soldiers for each Syrian soldier lost. That is because they have no defence against Russian and Syrian aviation.

    Both the Russians and the Iranians would make formidable adversaries – because they are defending their own peoples. The Israelis know that they don’t belong there and the Americans are really the tourists of militarism.

  38. Those old, old Muslims living in USA and Europe are far, far from reality as they are not aware what is really happening in the Middle East. The Shia crescent is empowered by the USA and with the blessings of the Sunni States. These folks are from old school who have been brain washed for decades. To change them it is impossible, but with time they will slowly, slowly die and the transformation is already in progress. The small, small kingdoms, only worry about preserving their Chairs and not Caliphate!

  39. Kouros says:

    While the presentation of facts is accurate, reflecting events in the past years, there is no actual analysis and explanations, other than local power struggle, but it is a bit more complicated than that.

    Egypt had first to be tamed and after loosing the Sinai peninsula, with the peace brokered by US (plus a continuous dole of money/weapons), the biggest Arab nation that could have engender any meaningful threats to Israel as a state (and nowadays to its expansionist thrust) has been quashed. At that time Iran was a monarchy resting on US support (so Israel had beautiful relations with the regime, which posed no threats).

    Now comes the Iran Revolution which suddenly becomes a threat to US interests (oil, dollar, oil flow), Israel’s interests (provides strategic depth to Lebanon, Palestinians, Syria, and Iraq), and all Arab monarchies around since it shows their own citizens that there is a different way of running a country…

    As such KSA and other monarchies (Qatar seems to be fine though) would rather make peace with the devil (Israel), than allow the idea of a Republic (especially Arab – see untamed Syria, and soon, after US will leave, Iraq) in their midst.

    Iran free to sell oil to whomever and on whatever currency is also able to buy and build weapons and provide a modicum of well being to its citizens while allowing a modicum of democracy to exist as well as supporting entities as Syria, Hezbollah is a mortal threat to US, Israel, and many Arab monarchies around, especially KSA. This level of nationalism is unacceptable for US geo-strategic and economic planners. Such a resource, as oil cannot be allowed to benefit all citizens of a country but needs to be controlled and enrich the few. This is why Venezuela, Russia, Libya, Syria, etc.

  40. O rly says:
    @RichardMunter

    While I agree with much of what you said I think there is still a sizable cohort that would “die for russia”

    • Replies: @Hossein
  41. @Agent76

    More burning issues from AD1900 using propaganda methods from AD1848.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Agree: Agent76
    • Replies: @Agent76
  42. Agent76 says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Absolutely, and schooling is the individual supply line of the drones aka patriots who will scarifice themselves for the Empire. This has been planned shortly after the Federal Reserve was founded and created.

    “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” – A Summary Blueprint of the PNAC Plan for U.S. Global Hegemony

    Some people have compared it to Hitler’s publication of Mein Kampf, which was ignored until after the war was over.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3249.htm

    The New American Century Part 1/10

    This film goes in detail through the untold history of The Project for the New American Century with tons of archival footage and connects it right into the present.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @the grand wazoo
  43. Kouros says:
    @RichardMunter

    I think you misrepresents a little bit the underpinnings of Iran’s form of government. In the US it is said that the three branches of government are independent and on equal footing. Practice is showing that it is not true and that the operational arm (government/President) has the upper hand in all goings and it is seldom or ever challenged.

    In Iran the top is represented by the Law (Islamic law) with its guardians (supreme ayatollah and the guardians). I don’t think conceptually this is a bad thing (except as an atheist I have some issues with the idea of divine law, especially when it punishes unbelievers and such) and ultimately in theory everyone else is aspirationally saying that their country is a country of law.

    Iran, also called Persia, and officially the Islamic Republic of Iran… republic…

  44. chris says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Very good point, DS ! Yeah, the article is a bit too much lukewarm water. In the whole summary of the state of the ME, there’s no mention of the human toll of bodies which probably are reaching the 1 million mark, to say nothing of the millions of displaced people.

    At some point, discussing coups, he says: “… is highly likely to have done so with the assistance of one or more foreign intelligence services.” but he says this not with respect to the Turkish coup but to the Egyptian one ! Daaaahh! Really ? I couldn’t take the article seriously after that, and certainly couldn’t similarly indulge myself into considering the merits of Saudi Perestroika when it’s being done on piles of corpses which the Saudis are currently amassing in Yemen.

    The simple truth to the matter, as I think most nonpartisan observers are likely to note, is the fact that the entire grotesque mayhem is clearly orchestrated out of Tel Aviv, with the US as the Jerry Lewis side-kick, the Saudies as the bank and executioner, Germany the mop-up team picking up the overflow, England as the butler and the French, well whatever the French ever do. Any discussion of supposed hidden hands should shed some light on any and all of these points, but I think the author is afraid to do that.

  45. Wally says:
    @Agent76

    said:
    “Some people have compared it to Hitler’s publication of Mein Kampf, which was ignored until after the war was over.”

    Really?
    Who?
    How was it “compared” and on what basis?

    • Replies: @Agent76
  46. Jake says:

    It ought to be obvious that the Saudi-Israeli alliance is overseen by the US with the UK smiling over the US shoulder.

    It ought to be obvious that the goal of this Saudi/Sunni-Israeli-WASP alliance is to remake the Middle East according the desires of the Anglo-Zionist Empire, which has agreed to cede total control of things Islamic to the Saudis.

    That the US, with its WASP political and cultural mother the UK along for the ride, would oversee the Israelis and Saudis becoming BFFs is no surprise when you follow the natural, logical flow of ideas having consequences.

    WASP culture, Modern English culture, is the child of a Judaizing heresy: Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. As anyone with a sound philosophical grasp of theology would have been able to predict, a Judaizing heresy will necessarily become utter secularism, which is anti-Christ and anti-Christendom and therefore in perfect accord with devoutly religious Judaizing heresy. Then culture produced by Judaizing heresy will be pro-Semitic. And when that pro-Semitic culture gets involved with the Middle East, its pro-Semitism will add to its promotion of things Jewish a growing fondness for things Arabic and Mohammedan.

    By the end of the Napoleonic era, the Brit WASP Elites were divided into 2 camps of pro-Semites: the Jewish and the Arabic/Mohammedan. The rivalry between them at times was jocular and at times fierce. But they were agreed in a basic world view that somehow English interests always would be best served with deep ties to things Semitic. They saw Semitic peoples as delightfully exotic, while seeing the vast majority of the white natives of the British Isles as trash they either pitied as hopeless or despised as potential mobs.

    If you have the largest Empire in world history and your Elites are largely divided into 2 camps of Semitic-love, your ideal is that someday you can lead Jews and Arabic Mohammedans into alliance.

    That is what we have today. It was no mistake, no fluke.

    Before long, we may need to start referring to the Anglo-Zionist-Sunni Arabic Empire.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  47. Patricus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    The Rothschilds had a great run in the 18th and 19th centuries. Early in the 20th century their fortunes were depleted by inheritances and they were no longer a financial force. In the late 1800s a Rothschild brother and sister married in order to consolidate Rothschild money. Despite this desperate measure the passing of generations and inheritances made the family quite ordinary fairly well off folks.

    Today there is a single Rothschild in the billionaire class and he has just over one billion. According to Forbes he ranks #1,150 of the world’s billionaires. The Waltons are hundreds of times richer.

    As their fortunes declined the myth of the super rich family dramatically intensified. Some claimed they have 500 trillion (all the world’s wealth totals 250 trillion). Some believe they control all the central banks, the Illuminatti and the Trilateral Commission. It must be hard for a young Rothschild to live up to the name. If you want to make a reservation at a fancy restaurant tell them you are a Rothschild. That might or might not work.

    • Replies: @Anon
  48. Agent76 says:
    @Wally

    I did not write the article or produce the video but I am sure with little effort there is a comment section on the youtube and in the article. I did not produce either but have researched both and shared it here with folks.

  49. Hossein says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Well said. the war against Gemal Abdulnasser and his brand of revolutionary nationalism calling for Arab unity and establishing one Arab country for all Arabs is a great example of imperialist intervention in the Arab world.

    The west does not want nor tolerates Arab unity ,any of those leaders calling for such idea are either ousted by coups or ending up dead .

  50. Hossein says:
    @O rly

    I agree with your comment. The Russians are very patriotic , A great example is their huge sacrifice against german Nazi regime and the almost 27000000 who died defending their country.

    For those who believe that Iran is more unified they obviously have no clue what they are talking about. That country is multi ethnic and the idea of one country, one language and one culture pushed and promoted by the rule of bayonet and other oppressive methods have actually backfired creating more ethnic divide and increasing the distrust of central Persian regime by the ethnic minorities such as Turks, Ahwaz Arabs, Kurds and in particular the baluchis who despise Persian central regime and the idea of forced Persianisation.
    The only reason that Iran is not fractured, not yet, is because of Shiism which by the way is becoming less popular and in particular among the Ahwazi Arabs who in droves are turning to Sunni islam .
    Such defections in that particular geographical area, Alahwaz as the Arabs call it, which is Iran’s achilles heel and the life line of Persian rule because of the oil and abundance of water can challenge the central regime and become a huge challenge to an already unpopular Persian theocratic tyranny.

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @Anon
  51. ababush says:
    @A.R.

    Parts of the population that think of themselves as “woke”, informed and as “The Resistance” are just as misinformed and deceived ( if not more ) as the sheeplike masses they claim superiority over.

    Could you elaborate on that one? In which way alternative medias are as useless as the MSM?

    • Replies: @A.R.
    , @Anonymous
  52. Alfred says:
    @Hossein

    Iran has been a miniature empire absorbing a large number of ethnically diverse peoples for a very long time. They know very well how to balance the interests of its various components – unlike the USA or the UK. Of course, outsiders such the British and Americans try to fracture the country along its ethnic lines. There is nothing new there either. Divide and Rule.

    All ethnic groupings in Iran are well aware that they have much to lose should the USA regain control of the country. They know their history.

    The real irony of what is happening is that the USA and UK have imported large numbers of foreigners from their de facto ex colonies and they have no idea as to how to absorb these aliens. That has rendered the USA and the UK vulnerable to being fractured themselves. Electing a Zionist Pakistani to be the mayor of London is hardly going to appease the Pakistanis of the UK. He only represents himself.

    The Arabs of Ahwaz have only to look across the Persian Gulf to see what is happening to their ethnic cousins in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia to realise that they are quite fortunate.

    • Replies: @Hossein
  53. FB says:
    @Alfred

    Excellent comment, Alfred…

    In fact much more insightful than this meandering, pointless article…

    So there are ‘hidden hands’ in the Middle East…gee really…[but the ‘article’ never tells who those hands belong to…]?

    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  54. Good summary of events, but you are preaching to the choir here mostly (unz.com is after all alt-media ).

    One intesresting avenue to pursue in future would be to analyse the general and particular israeli &diaspora jewish response to all of this, because the old guard seem to be loosing the narrative there somewhat. Gog and Magog are central themes to us(i am jewish heritage on side of my father, not religious in any way or form to thos or that), but it seems that the younger generations are not as influenced by blind faith in…whatever some talking head or politician is saying and what they realise is right. This is good, as it seems that it mirrors the situation on the muslim side, thus eventually blurring the lines enough to achieve what all of us humans deserve: peace, although im not holding my breath waiting for that moment.

    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  55. @Jake

    As anyone with a sound philosophical grasp of theology would have been able to predict, a Judaizing heresy will necessarily become utter secularism, which is anti-Christ and anti-Christendom and therefore in perfect accord with devoutly religious Judaizing heresy. Then culture produced by Judaizing heresy will be pro-Semitic. And when that pro-Semitic culture gets involved with the Middle East, its pro-Semitism will add to its promotion of things Jewish a growing fondness for things Arabic and Mohammedan.

    and the chain continues, see http://www.unz.com/article/hidden-hands-in-the-middle-east/#comment-3389820

    Nice example of philosophical progression. Ideas evolve to the limit of their applicability, that limit often (but not always, e.g. stoicism) being defined by the survival of the idea’s adherents. [1]

    Examples:
    a) Belief in an elective form of government always ends with a near universal electorate, limited only by economic necessity. There are no theoretical grounds for forbidding electorate growth when the existing electorate ultimately justifies its governance by the fact that it is human, rather than (say) by ancestry, right of conquest, holy writ, or racial/ethnic composition.
    b) Hegel’s notion that each historical interval has its own separate mental reality, so that no two periods can be compared to each other, will eventually result in attempts to deliberately engineer a new historical interval in which the engineering group’s preferences are the new mental reality, and will eventually yield something like Postmodernism.

    These things are as inevitable as liquid and solid water running downhill (and warm gaseous water running uphill), or as work expanding to fill the time available, and it’s worthwhile to remember that when talking about human factions. All human factions are limited by their ideas — their ideas control them at least as much as they control their ideas.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] No, I’m not talking “memes” here. meme’s are much more ephemeral, like foam on waves in the Atlantic ocean.

    A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture—often with the aim of conveying a particular phenomenon, theme, or meaning represented by the meme

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme

  56. A.R. says:
    @ababush

    A LOT of alternative media is as compromised as the mainstream media. Certainly not all, but a lot.
    Many commentators and/or experts in the alternative media are also serving agendas which make them either dishonest, ignorant or unable to be sufficiently objective especially when dealing with issues that are much more complicated than simple right/wrong or black/white dichotomy.
    The “controlled opposition” phenomena is another component many have problems with understanding or identifying.
    It also seems to me that cognitive dissonance is just as widely common among “the woke” as among “the unwoke”.
    Speaking for myself I have no problem admitting that it is hard , sometimes almost impossible, to make sense of all the contradictory information that is out there.
    I do believe, though, that “digging yourself in” and uncompromisingly taking a fixed position on any kind of issue is a potentially serious mistake.
    Not to say that one should not have strong and principled opinions. Just that one has to be open to the possibility of having been, to some digree, mistaken, misinformed or even misled.
    I do not see any differences in symptoms of fanaticism whether the specific fanatic belongs on the right or left side of the political spectrum…

  57. @A.R.

    Recommend these sites, trunews.com, rense.com, whatreallyhappened.com, thetruthseeker.co.uk, henrymakow.com, stevequayle.com, darkmoon.me, etc..

    • Replies: @A.R
  58. A.R says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Thanks. There is a site or two you mention that I haven`t heard about before. I will make sure to check them out.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  59. Anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hossein

    I agree with your comment. The Russians are very patriotic , A great example is their huge sacrifice against german Nazi regime and the almost 27000000 who died defending their country.

    LOL… any action performed under duress of obvious communist terror is not a “good example” of the true nature of any group. Especially ironic is the citation of “patriotism” under communism and in spite of any cynical soviet propaganda to the contrary: patriotism and Marxism being the two most diametrically opposed ideals in all of politics.

    • Replies: @Hossein
  60. Anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patricus

    “Rothschild” serves as a type of interference for political Judaism.

    “Its the Rothschilds” is often a suitable kosher substitute for “Judaism is inherently hostile and corrupting”. I’m sure that Jews regularly send their thanks in various ways.

  61. Saudi leaders now not only recognise Israel as a legitimate entity in the region but top Saudi journalists pray for her during Ramadan[1], whilst a recent article in the Israeli paper Haaretz (a fairly good source for such developments in the Kingdom) demonstrates how Saudi’s “army” of paid government trolls has been waging a relentless campaign to delegitimise the Palestinian cause, once considered unassailable across the Arab world, in favour of Israeli interests.

    I don’t see panic in various Palestinian’s factions of leadership. Do you?

    They are calm as cucumber. Wonder why?

    The pundits are always writing off the Palestinian’s issue but I don’t see it going away due to Masjid al-Quds.

  62. @A.R.

    A LOT of alternative media is as compromised as the mainstream media. Certainly not all, but a lot.

    That was certainly the case back when BIX was at least one of the primary hosts for alternate media. The place was as bad as Google is now, an some of the “right wing” hosts were flatly under the control of never named sponsors, so they would support things such as police confiscation of anything they _suspected_ was “connected to the drug trade”.

    Old story, one that’s worth repeating.

    Counterinsurgency

  63. @A.R

    You are welcome, heres a couple of Russian sites I go to, southfront.org, fort-russ.com, sputniknews.com and rt.com, these provide a different an more realistic news than the western MSM.

  64. Hossein says:
    @Anon

    The viet king and North Vietnamese were both led by commies but nationalist patriotic fervor never diminished.

    The same was with USSR where patriotism and defence of mother land was the slogan during the great war.

    Cheers.

  65. Hossein says:
    @Assad al-islam

    I do not care what any pundit or so called expert say but the Arabs will never forget Palestine and no matter what , those Jews will never ever feel secure in their stolen colonial enclave.
    It is stupid and dumb to suggest that the Saudi regime is promotong the idea of forgetting palestine and endorsing israel for such a policy will certainly bring about an upheaval among the population.

    • Replies: @anon
  66. Hossein says:
    @Alfred

    https://unpo.org/content/view/488/236/

    Nonsense. the central Persian regime has used any means necessary to destroy these forgotten Arabs in Ahwaz and that includes opening flood gates of dams in order to force the population out of towns and villages . It did not work and as usual the stupid reactionary racist theocrats not only did not achieve their goal of displacing the Arabs but created a movement that in the near future might turn into a major crisis for their ethnocentric dictatorship.

    Not sure why anyone would want to offer any support to such savage and vicious racist regime that promotes Aryanism and identarianism .

  67. @DESERT FOX

    Desert Fox, your assessment is correct except for using 911 as the beginning. Unfortunately for us Americans and to be fair the world too; the Zionist jew’s gained the upper hand in 1913 with the creation of the Federal Reserve Inc. ‘banking act’. The Jews always play the long game. It took them 125 years just to get to 1913. After that they have been on a down hill run. Are we in the end game? We just may be.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  68. @the grand wazoo

    I am well aware of the fact that the zionists took control of America with their privately owned and unconstitutional FED and IRS and then came the wars and foreign killing fields and debt all courtesy of the zionists.

    If you had read some of my posts, you would see that I am well aware of this takeover of America in 1913 by the zionist banking kabal, and the reason I keep mentioning the joint Israeli and zio/US attack is that every thinking American knows that they did it and the bastards got away with 911.

  69. anon[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hossein

    How did Zionism create the Saudi Arab . That’s the name of a book . Saudi kingdom would have been endorsed protected and maintained but for the willingness to accept the Zionist plan as presented by Britain to the parties involved in freeing Arab from Britain after Ottoman were defeated .

    Saudi and gulf royals are thugs and dirty and corrupt . They are Epstein .

  70. @Agent76

    I too agree that the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was the crowning achievement of the Zionists, and what we see today has been in the works since the 19th century. They never sleep.

  71. niceland says:
    @Assad al-islam

    Your posts are interesting, thanks.

    If I understand correctly you are saying Muslims are getting more united after the fall of the ISIS caliphate. And the big issue for them in Israel isn’t Palestine – per se, but the Al-Aqsa Mosque (that has to be removed to built the third temple)

    Question: What do you think about this event.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-embassy-image-of-jewish-temple-thrust-in-front-of-envoy-friedman-for-photo/

    I wonder how much support does Israel get from the U.S. based on religious ideas about the importance of the third temple in some areas of Christianity?

  72. Anonymous[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @ababush

    The same was as it is in the USA.
    While not opposing in any real way real power and actually endorsing its interests and, broadly, narratives, the “alternative media” pose as cool rebels and outliers.
    The essence being to feel superior to the “masses”. But because they aren’t, they don’t act differently; just more annoyingly.

  73. @Assad al-islam

    Taking your theory of a horse and a cart….

    if Umayyads are kind of false caliphs, usurpers actually, wouldn’t the return to the house of Muhammad give the natural superiority to Shi’a Islam, as they could claim to be ‘righteous’ ones? They kind of defended the Prophet’s family.

    Still, I am astonished at the amount of dynastic thinking in Islam. Isn’t Islam supposed to be for everyone?

    Al-Quds mosque location at least means that Jerusalem will be free of missiles, I suppose. It seems that the original UN plan to internationalize Jerusalem was the best one, after all.

    • Replies: @Assad al-islam
  74. @FB

    So there are ‘hidden hands’ in the Middle East…gee really…[but the ‘article’ never tells who those hands belong to…]?

    Well, the choice of candidates is not very large: MI6, CIA,(&, I suppose the other 17 US Agencies.) SVB, the French Secret Service, the Chinese Secret Service, the Turkish Secret Service, MOSSAD, the Iranian Secret Service, The Egyptian Secret Service, the Iraqi Secret Service, the Syrian Secret Service and the Saudi SS. Of those I think the usual suspects are probably the ones to blame. Though, probably, all of them are more or less active in the MENA.

  75. @Mac Chiavelli

    but it seems that the younger generations are not as influenced by blind faith in…whatever some talking head or politician is saying and what they realise is right. This is good, as it seems that it mirrors the situation on the muslim side, thus eventually blurring the lines enough to achieve what all of us humans deserve: peace, although im not holding my breath waiting for that moment.

    I was told much the same thing, recently, in Ireland. When I asked about the state of the religious war, I was told that by and large, the young were not interested in religion and that fraternisation across religious boundaries was very common. That was very different from my experience of Ireland in the early 50s. (When I said in response to the question of my religion that I was an atheist, I was immediately asked “But a Catholic Atheist or a Protestant one?” I was also given well-meaning advice to avoid certain areas “Because they are all Catholics/Protestants there.”

  76. @A.R.

    A LOT of alternative media is as compromised as the mainstream media. Certainly not all, but a lot.
    Many commentators and/or experts in the alternative media are also serving agendas which make them either dishonest, ignorant or unable to be sufficiently objective especially when dealing with issues that are much more complicated than simple right/wrong or black/white dichotomy.
    The “controlled opposition” phenomena is another component many have problems with understanding or identifying.

    I think it is not too hard to see who are “Controlled Opposition” by a few “touchstones”, such as their view on 9/11, Palestine, MH17, Crimea, the Fed.

  77. @niceland

    If I understand correctly you are saying Muslims are getting more united after the fall of the ISIS caliphate.

    Very true, it has united the Muslims and the Ummah. The ISIS was godsend which showed the ugly face of Islam out in open. It also showed how easily one can become a Caliph. And, a very corrupt Caliph too!

    And the big issue for them in Israel isn’t Palestine – per se, but the Al-Aqsa Mosque (that has to be removed to built the third temple)

    If the issue is Palestine, it will fade away with time, and this is what is happening. But if the issue is disguised under al-Aqsa Mosque, it unites the Muslims and will never fade away.

    Question: What do you think about this event.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-embassy-image-of-jewish-temple-thrust-in-front-of-envoy-friedman-for-photo/

    Trump has surrounded Netanyahu with three stooges to pacify Netanyahu on a daily basis, while the Shia Crescent is being empowered around the neck of Israel, with the blessing and help of Sunni States. His son-in-law Jared Kushner, his long time bankruptcy lawyer David Melech Friedman and Jason Dov Greenblatt. Anytime Netanyahu panics they remind him that Jared has the Daddy’s Ears.

    But it didn’t start with Trump, it started with Dubya Bush and then Obama….

    I wonder how much support does Israel get from the U.S. based on religious ideas about the importance of the third temple in some areas of Christianity?

    Can be switched on and off at will as USA is run by Deep State.

    What is an Arab or an Persian? Most of the citizens of GCC are Iranian being Sunni and Shia mixed. Iran is right across the Straight of Hormuz. Both Sayyid Khomeini and Sayyid Khamenei, both the supreme leaders of Iran are Arabs and direct male to male linage (descended) of Prophet Mohammad. Just like Sayyid Sistani and Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah too. Look at their color of Turban and you will find it black for all four of them. So, the Arabs are ruling Iran.

  78. @Another Polish Perspective

    if Umayyads are kind of false caliphs, usurpers actually, wouldn’t the return to the house of Muhammad give the natural superiority to Shi’a Islam, as they could claim to be ‘righteous’ ones? They kind of defended the Prophet’s family.

    All of them are false Caliph. Omayyad didn’t come into power out of the blue, as their accession was put in place by the fist three Caliphs, namely abu Bakr, Omar and Usman. Usman who himself was Omayyad put all the Omayyad’s back in power, especially the fifth Caliph. The Caliphs used Islam to further their power, enrich their coffers and for their own benefit.

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    Every Muslim believe in the Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet Mohammad, which includes Sharia. The Quran was put together by an Omayyad the third Caliph Usman who then burned all the remaining Qurans. Muslims don’t like to discuss changes made to Quran and they are united in it. But the Quran is not in chronological order by Chapters and especially the Verses within the Chapters. Or which Verses assigned to which Chapters, mostly all random.

    The Sunnah of Mohammad, whatever was there in written form, was burnt by the order of first, second and third Caliphs. The Omayyad then cooked the hadiths (traditions) and recooked them. Around 250 years after the demise of the Prophet, they were collected by an non-Arab person named Bukhari from Bukhara. This is the Sunnah of the Prophet the Sunni are using.

    If a Caliph was pedophile, then let us cook a hadith (tradition) that Mohammad married a six years old child and consummated the marriage to her when she was nine.

    The Sunni are critically looking at their Books of Sunnah now. 90% hadiths in Bukhari are not traditions of Mohammad, they are of people who are signing their own songs. It is Aisha and not the Prophet who claims that the Prophet married her while she was a six years old child, even though the Quran calls Aisha a liar. Who do I believe, Aisha or the Quran!

    Still, I am astonished at the amount of dynastic thinking in Islam. Isn’t Islam supposed to be for everyone?

    Remember, Mohammad got all the stories wrong (sarcasm). In Islam Allah created Adam to be His Caliph on earth. This representative of God will remain on Earth until the Judgment Day. It is a Dynasty from Day One:

    Quran: Indeed, Allah chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of ‘Imran over the worlds – descendants, from one another. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

    The Family of Imran is Jesus’ mother Marry and her family.

    Al-Quds mosque location at least means that Jerusalem will be free of missiles, I suppose. It seems that the original UN plan to internationalize Jerusalem was the best one, after all.

    Do you think that Israel will agree along with their minions the Christian’s Fundamentalists?

  79. @niceland

    If I understand correctly you are saying Muslims are getting more united after the fall of the ISIS caliphate.

    Very true, it has united the Muslims and the Ummah. The ISIS was godsend which showed the ugly face of Islam out in open. It also showed how easily one can become a Caliph. And, a very corrupt Caliph too!

    And the big issue for them in Israel isn’t Palestine – per se, but the Al-Aqsa Mosque (that has to be removed to built the third temple)

    If the issue is Palestine, it will fade away with time, and this is what is happening. But if the issue is disguised under al-Aqsa Mosque, it unites the Muslims and will never fade away.

    Question: What do you think about this event.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-embassy-image-of-jewish-temple-thrust-in-front-of-envoy-friedman-for-photo/

    Trump has surrounded Netanyahu with three stooges to pacify Netanyahu on a daily basis, while the Shia Crescent is being empowered around the neck of Israel, with the blessing and help of Sunni States. His son-in-law Jared Kushner, his long time bankruptcy lawyer David Melech Friedman and Jason Dov Greenblatt. Anytime Netanyahu panics they remind him that Jared has the Daddy’s Ears.

    But it didn’t start with Trump, it started with Dubya Bush and then Obama….

    I wonder how much support does Israel get from the U.S. based on religious ideas about the importance of the third temple in some areas of Christianity?

    Can be switched on and off at will as USA is run by Deep State.

    What is an Arab or an Persian? Most of the citizens of GCC are Iranian being Sunni and Shia mixed. Iran is right across the Straight of Hormuz. Both Sayyid Khomeini and Sayyid Khamenei, both the supreme leaders of Iran are Arabs and direct male to male linage (descended) of Prophet Mohammad. Just like Sayyid Sistani and Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah too. Look at their color of Turban and you will find it black for all four of them. So, the Arabs are ruling Iran.

  80. Ace says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    The world wars ground white countries into the dirt. The Cold War was a drawn-out extension of WWII but then the verities of that contest evaporated as the visible monstrosity imploded. The progressive/revolutionary subversives only strengthened their position and Jewish wealth vastly distorted the political landscape by demonizing the National Socialists and hiding the grisly Jewish responsibility for Bolshevism and Judaism’s revolutionary, subversive, supremacist nature. Israel became the lode star for vast numbers of Jews, and its behavior has been the scourge of the M.E. as has Jewish subversion of constitutional America for white, Christian Europeans.

    This Jewish agenda is, however, one of the things that is becoming more and more apparent and the days of movies such as “Exodus” thrilling non-Jews are long gone. The true nature of Israel is there for all to see and any exodus on the menu these days is that of the IDF into “Greater Israel.” The true nature of Israel is irrelevant really. More to the point what it isn’t is what’s important, viz., any friend to Americans. As someone here at TUR or the Hedge succinctly observed, America didn’t have any enemies in the M.E. until it made Israel its “friend.”

    The absurd infiltration of the US government by Israelis and/or dual-citizen Jews is a national disgrace, and one has to be on life support to miss the massive distortion of our entire national debate by Jewish control of Hollywood, the media, and the Congress and our sick pretense that Israel is some kind of an ally and that it is a vital national interest of ours to protect it, advance its interests, and have it as a favorite parasite. As is the fantastically successful Jewish campaign for open borders, “multiculturalism,” “civil rights” and affirmative action, and the end of white, Christian America.

    This poisonous reality is a major part of the real disease that afflicts us, viz., the total abandonment of constitutional government, the rise of cuckservatism (namely feeble, dishonest Republicanism), and a fatal divorce of the elite from the people (in all the Western world as well).

    Jews and the left in general have driven the first world to economic, political, and social crisis and this “success” contains the seeds of their destruction because the current approach cannot last. Economic disaster will hurt everyone but what arises from the ashes will be a thoroughly awakened populace. They won’t necessarily choose wisely but there’s zero chance they will favor the present dispensation.

    So what is to come is a playing out of this poisonous separation of the moneyed elites from their own people or the people of the country in which they live. The liberal notion that all cultures, ethnicities, and races can live together is dead and millions of awakened souls are never, ever going back to that train wreck.

  81. Kelso says:
    @gotmituns

    Bush’s Iraq fiasco cost US taxpayers $2 trillion so although you don’t give a rat’s ass it is costing you big bucks. Less healthcare, education for your grandchildren, bridges and roads.
    Trump and the Lobby are promoting bigger things in Iran, so get out your pocketbook. Things could get even worse if it becomes a nuclear war. Remember Sheldon Adelson suggested the US(not Israël) should drop a nuclear bomb on Iran to show them who is who. Iran is a client state of Russia which might respond in kind.

  82. Malla says:

    The Saudis have been in bed with Israelis and been clandestinely opposing Palestine for a long time before King Salman.

    Saudi Princess of Palestinian origin Janan Harb, wife of the late King Fahd, interviewed on Going Underground (Russia Today) with Afshin Rattansi back in Feb, 2016
    Watch from 5:40 mins to the end 7:00

    She says Saudis only supported Palestinians in theory, in reality they want Palestinians to be suppressed, they want the occupation running. Prince Salman (not king yet) never wanted Princess Harb to have a kid because they did not want ‘little Arafat’ running around in the Saudi Royal palace. She also says that Israelis have been going in and out of Saudi Arabia from some time now.

  83. Malla says:
    @gT

    And what is interesting is that the Ottoman Empire and the British Empire magically fell on opposite sides of WW1. The British Empire which included Egypt and India nearby. And many Arab emirates in the Persian Gulf were already protectorates of the British Empire. Which other power in the world but the British Empire was in the position and power to be used by Jews to get Palestine out of the Ottoman Empire? And what magic of history that both these Empires magically fell on opposite sides in the War!!
    As they say
    “The World is a stage with nations as actors, with Jewish directors, Jewish producers and Jewish script writers.”

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