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We live in the world of models, all kinds of them. Some models are simple, others—very complex. The main task of those models is to predict how things, those models describe, will behave depending on the circumstances. Some of those models work brilliantly, others fail miserably. Worst models in terms of reliability are those dealing with geopolitics. A record of dismal failures of Western in general, and American in particular, geopolitical models to predict anything right is widely available for everyone to see. Time after time those models and predictions turned out to be wrong. In terms of “predicting” anything in regards to Russia, those predictions were not only wrong, they were downright dangerous.

No better demonstration exists of a complete breakdown in the process of predicting anything than evolution of Russian military and economic power. As late as 2016, claims that Russia remained nothing more than, in the words of John McCain, a gas station masquerading as a country continued to pour in by all kinds of “experts”, who, despite a huge collection of facts to the contrary, continued to believe that these are only Russia’s nuclear forces which keep Russia as some secondary factor in the international relations. There are even some Russian experts who shared this point of view. Their models and predictions turned out to be wrong. They lacked the most important predictor of them all.

Fast forward to March 1 this year to Putin’s speech to Federal Assembly—the loud echo from this speech is still being heard today, half-a-year later. It is still loud. In fact, the volume increases. It was the day majority of models of international relations and balance of power, all those matrices, differential equations, arrays of information became completely irrelevant, because military power and full ability to wage both nuclear and, what is most important, conventional war, and win in it, not some abstract financial or cooked military “rankings” data, is what defines geopolitical status of the nation. Any serious military analyst knew already in 2014 that neither US, nor NATO as a whole, could defeat Russia in conventional war near Russia’s borders.

On March 1 it became clear that Russia can strike any targets, including within the US, conventionally with US not being able to do anything about it. Today Russia can also sink any NATO navy, or combination thereof, without nuclear weapons and the list of what is possible is long. In what seemed to a layman as one day (in reality it was 10 years in the making) Russia not only obtained a full right to speak at the formation of the new world order, Russia became a main driver behind this new order of things globally. Cutting edge military power translates into geopolitical benefits extremely well. Real military power, assessed within proper strategic, operational and technological framework, was and is this predictor. In other words—only world-class, superpower, economies are capable of producing the state-of-the-art weaponry or, in general, military power. Russia fits this definition today perfectly. I will quote myself:

Military power in humanity’s conflict-ridden history mattered, matters and will continue to matter as one of the main, if not themain, pillars on which national power rests. It remains the case that, in the modern world, first rate military power is a function of a first rate nation-state which possesses the wherewithal to have such military power. Great military power by definition is a continuation of a greatly developed, economically strong nation-state.

Fast forward to today. Next state of Russia’s existence, yet again lost in all those modelling and prognosticating methodologies. Russian GosKomStat (main statistics agency) reports that industry, specifically manufacturing and processing, grew in 7 months of 2018 an impressive 4.1%, the consumption of energy—one of the main indicators of real economy growth—grew 1.9%. These are stunning numbers for the country which lives under sanctions non-stop since 2014, in reality much longer than that. One is forced to ask the question—how is this growth even possible, despite some undeniable Russia’s structural economic problems?

The answer is in Russia’s grand strategy which was formulated more than hundred years ago by a man, who played one of the crucial roles in unleashing revolutionary processes in Russia, namely Tsar Nicholas II former prime-minister of Russia Pyotr Stolypin. His strategic dictum was simple to grasp: “Give Russia 20 years of internal and external peace and quiet and it will change beyond recognition.” Vladimir Putin and his team follow this dictum to the letter.

Obviously, many in Western world immediately tried to assign to Putin, who quoted Stolypin not for once, all features of a “liberal” without, as always, paying any attention to a gigantic difference of Stolypin’s and Putin’s Russia. Stolypin wanted to change Russia’s peasantry and its centuries’ old commune by means of his namesake reforms, and through it, Russia herself. He tried to do so in most brutal manner. He was assassinated. Putin needs to stop “liberal” economic experimentation in Russia and, unlike Stolypin 100 years before him, he has an overwhelming support of his nation to do so. He has still massive industrial, technological and scientific heritage left from the Soviet Union. He is also doing this in evolutionary manner.

This combined Putin (by this I mean him and people who support him in the top echelons of political power) is trying to achieve precisely Stolypin’s goal of 20 or even more years of internal and external peace and quiet but he knows that the only way to provide these conditions are through strength and in Russian geopolitical, cultural, historic conditions this means a completely new quality of strength. This is the quality which requires rejection of the liberal economic dogma. And it is being done.

As influential Russian economist and journalist Alexander Rogers states in his latest piece (in Russian) titled The State Will Get Everything Back the second, since 2014, wave of re-nationalization of Russia’s strategic assets and Rogers is spot on in his analysis. Apart from returning Russian State where overwhelming majority of Russians want it to be, in charge of Russia’s real national treasure and wealth—national resources and strategic industries—this transformation also requires new professional elites. Those are being prepared as I type this. But why such a long introduction?

The answer to this introduction is really very simple: to explain to very many real and fake Western (I will omit here Russian ones) supporters of Russia WHY Russia doesn’t act in a kneejerk manner each time combined West does something ultimately stupid and self-defeating against her. Russia plays a very long game whose main objective is to provide Russia with those Stolypin’s, now Putin’s, 20 or more, years of peaceful development. Under these conditions, Russia, as our very own Anon from Tennessee, succinctly observed in one of the discussion threads, will “negotiate with the devil himself if need be”. This is what Russia is doing while continuing to demonstrate her increasing military and economic clout. Russia is playing for time, for a relatively peaceful time that is, because today in Russia time means growth.

The correctness of this approach has been proven today by the overwhelming empirical evidence of mounting achievements in many spheres among which real economy, not some virtual financial markets, is most important. Today, when one reviews industrial projects Russia is implementing domestically and abroad, one cannot fail to be struck by a massive scale of those, be that development in Arctic, aerospace, radio-electronics, shipbuilding or transport infrastructure. Russia is building her own independent internet through massive Sfera (Sphere) Project, which in itself is a massive space exploration project. In parallel, increasingly fast de-dollarization is taking place.

Thus the warranted, in fact irresistible, question must be asked–would Russia of August 2018 be possible should Russia of March 2014 have followed all kneejerk advices on part of all those “supporters”, “patriots” and “experts” (many of whom are not experts at all, nor are real patriots) who every day, since the return of Crimea home, never relented on, in their opinion for a good reason, accusing Russia of being weak, cowardly, not tough enough, timid, not hitting back… you can easily add to this list. Yet, here we are in August 2018 with Russia not only not collapsing but every single day she defies grim, doom spelling forecasts. There are still many of those around.

It is obvious today that should have Russia involved herself in Ukraine in 2014 by means of full blown invasion, everything positive what today increasingly manifests itself would have failed to materialize because Russia, no matter how good it would have made some of her so called “patriots” (and ignorant “experts”) feel for a moment, would have lost time–the most important strategic asset, which Russia used for the last 5 years impressively well to prepare the country for a breakthrough the beginning of which we all observe today, some with joy, others with hateful desperation. The list of Russia’s accomplishments in the last 5 years is, indeed, for the lack of better word, stunning.

Most important of those achievements is Russia’s increasing independence from the West in some of the most crucial scientific and technological fields and, of course, her military-technological transformation which changed the balance of power globally. And here is the main point for those who still think that Russia should launch an all out war on the combined West which continues to insult, attack and accuse Russia of most despicable things–they desperately want Russia to respond emotionally and, hopefully for them, irrationally. Truly powerful and confident nations do not behave themselves in a kneejerk, instant gratification manner.

Russia will not do that precisely for the reasons of Russia being militarily, and increasingly economically, secure. So who is really a weak party in this setup? Certainly, not Russia but hysterical and self-defeating West which sees its geopolitical designs collapse in front of its very own eyes. The fact that West, or at least some very influential people here, begin to understand this dynamics made even US mainstream media news when on July 3 Republican Senator from Alabama, a chair of an immensely powerful Senate Appropriations Committee, Richard Shelby was explicit in summarizing new 2018 geopolitical reality in his impromptu interview to the media on the stairs of Russia’s Foreign Ministry building:

US Must View Russia as Superpower

This is the place where those proverbial “experts” should start reacting as the devil would react to a spray of a holy water. This, or maybe spend some time learning about Russia, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. But for those who want to really learn—you want to know what the real economic might and geopolitical weight of the nation are, look no further than what its military can do realistically, not in CGI animation. This is the most reliable predictor of them all in the last 100 years. Always was, always will be and that is why dogs always bark but caravan passes on.

 
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  1. Frankie P says:

    Excellent piece, Andrei. May Russian leaders continue to provide the nation more peaceful time to grow, develop, mondernize and integrate with Eurasia in order to hasten a multipolar world in which balances of power maintain civil geopolitical relations and facilitate freer trade.

  2. The great thing about Putin, in my opinion, that he resists any western effort to be provoked militarily.
    Maybe he understands history, Hitler’s big mistake was to let himself be provoked by Poland.

  3. What will happen when Putin goes ? Is there anyone there with his strength & vision ? Or will Russia end up with another Yeltsin like “Atlantic integrationalist” — ie someone willing to sell of the National Wealth to the ever swarming plague of neoliberal predators & parasites for cents on the dollar ?

  4. Dante says:

    I thoroughly enjoyed that article and will be sharing, Brilliant.

  5. neutral says:

    The strategy is simple, the US is a hard left anti white regime and it is increasingly becoming a fanatically anti white regime. Russia must view the USA as Israel views Iran (which in the Iran case is unwarranted), there can be no diplomacy and no improvement of relations until the complete demise of the USA.

    • Replies: @Respect
  6. @animalogic

    The Spanish dictator Franco succeeded in organising reasonably Spain well, before he died.

  7. If whites and Christianity are to be finally finished off, then it makes sense from a Satanic point of view to build up an opposing team. Whites and Christians killed off millions of each other and destroyed much of what each had during the 20th century, but one power escaped much physical damage. Now, something has to be allowed to counter the US, which is white and at least nominally Christian.

    Jacques, the kunspiracy theerist, thinks our One World moneyed masters are not done with us yet and they’ve been playing us like a cheap fiddle for over a century now.

  8. CF says:

    Thank s Andrei.

    I’ve just finished your book Losing Military Supremacy, which was also excellent.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  9. Avery says:
    @animalogic

    {What will happen when Putin goes ?}

    That’s been the major weakness of Russia for centuries, and they don’t seem to be able to find a solution.Even in ancient times a good Tsar would advance Russia by leaps and bounds (e.g. Peter the Great) and then the next tsar would screw things up, and they’d have to start from zero. And on and on it went for centuries.

    Chinese had emperors also, but they seem to have found a solution: there is some kind of a committee that runs the country, and then there are colorless bureaucrat leaders that come and go. There have been a bunch of front-men after Deng Xiaoping, yet China’s internal and external policies continue on a steady, nationalistic course beneficial to China.

  10. Layman says:

    Andrei Martyanov quoting Alexander Rogers as an “influential economist and journalist”?! I must be missing something here. Rogers is a Russian blogger (ok let’s say journalist) who poses as an analyst and expert, but “influential” he ain’t, let alone “influential economist”. And the level of his expertise imho is way below that of Andrei Martyanov.

  11. Dan Hayes says:
    @jilles dykstra

    jilles dykstra:

    Regarding Franco’s eventual successors: In the long term it didn’t turn out that well!

  12. Thus the warranted, in fact irresistible, question must be asked–would Russia of August 2018 be possible should Russia of March 2014 have followed all kneejerk advices on part of all those “supporters”, “patriots” and “experts”….

    I will gladly answer that question: few things would change in Russia domestically if the government went this route. The Kremlin didn’t spend the last four years pursuing some major economic reform. The government simply did what was necessary to help the economy adjust to lower oil prices: they cut budget spending and raised interest rates to support the ruble. No economic “breakthroughs” happened in Russia during that time. I honestly have no idea what sort of “amasing achievements” Martyanov is talking about, he must be smoking something…

    Externally, valuable time has been lost, as the Kremlin allowed a hostile regime in the Ukraine to consolidate. Removing that regime in the summer of 2014 would have been relatively easy and save Russians a lot of money and trouble.

    Passivity is not a strategy. Martyanov is simply trying to rationalize Kremlin’s behavior, and shield it from well-earned criticism.

  13. Vojkan says:

    Andreï, one has to be totally incult or delusional to doubt Russian capacity for great theoretical thinking in any field and for making concrete achievements based on that thinking.
    I instead think that Western “experts” made their analyses and predictions by assuming that Russians have been permanently demotivated to stand on their feet during the Eltsine years. They projected on Russians how they would have reacted in similar circumstances.
    Orthodoxy incites to modesty so the top-notch Russians are not too prone to bragging and when they try, PR-wise, they appear clumsy, so people in the West jump to the conclusion that Russians are overall clumsy.
    On the other hand Western “experts” tend to “mis-overestimate” themselves.
    The “mis-overestimation” and “low profile” effect is all explained in an IG-Nobel prize winning study by Dunning and Kruger.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  14. Thanks for this intelligent article about the intelligent manner Russia is building its future. It’s a great relief to notice that the world is not only about bluffing & tall talk. By the way, Kalashnikov made a retro model of an electric car with a great sense of humour.

  15. @Avery

    That’s been the major weakness of Russia for centuries, and they don’t seem to be able to find a solution.

    True to a large extent. In current state, judging by the latest events, Patrushev seems to be this added security.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  16. gT says:

    I always wondered why it seemed like anyone could bomb Russia with a nuclear weapon and Russia would not react (ok, it would have to be a single, small nuclear weapon for Russia not to react).

    The only explanation was the inevitable and boring – Russia doesn’t need to respond to anything, but just needs to wait for the USA to collapse under its debt load, blah, blah, blah, etc. But there was no other explanation for Russia’s mystifying behavior. I did quite like the Russia is a mystery wrapped in an enigma one though.

    But now a reason for Russia’s reluctance to advance to contact has emerged – “Give Russia 20 years of internal and external peace and quiet and it will change beyond recognition.” Eastern philosophy at it best and most perplexing.

    Someone needs to send Paul Craig Robert’s a link to this article.

  17. Vojkan says:
    @Avery

    Russia rises and falls but has an undying soul.
    More reasonably, I believe Putin has been there for so long not because he’s keen on being there but because his succession is still a work in progress. Medvedev has proven adequate in the economic field but has proven inadequate in the int’l field, cf. Libya. So a combination to have continuity in policy is still to be found. The West doesn’t have the problem of continuity any more because whatever lesser evil the people elect, the rulers remain the same.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @yurivku
  18. The usual “Putin’s invincible hordes will beat the socks off the US military” propaganda line. If it were true, it would be so obvious that there would be no need to keep saying it over and over again! “Neither US, nor NATO as a whole, could defeat Russia in conventional war near Russia’s borders”. They said that about Hitler in 1939 but Hitler was defeated. “Give Russia 20 years of internal and external peace and quiet and it will change beyond recognition.” Putin certainly hasn’t given Russia “external peace and quiet”. In fact, he has destroyed the external peace and quiet he himself created in the early years in power. and his team follow this dictum to the letter. If Putin actually was giving Russia “external peace and quiet”, the author would never have felt the need to write this article! And, of course, Hitler said something similar about Germany. Clearly, the author thinks things are going badly for Putin.

    • Replies: @Respect
    , @rkka
  19. God bless Putin and Russia for defending Christians and the Syrian people against Zionist aggression in the Mideast. Russia is a Christian nation again after throwing off the satanic Zionist cabalists who murdered some 60 million Russians from 1917 until 1957 and these same type of Bolsheviks are trying to destroy America.

    If anyone doubts that satanic Zionists control the U.S. government just consider this, Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did 911 and murdered some 3000 Americans and got away with it and every thinking America knows that Israel did it.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  20. Seraphim says:
    @Avery

    It was the weakness of Russia for centuries (eleven, after my reckoning). And Russia still exists. And is somewhat stronger than in the time of Peter, despite the efforts of all the Yeltsins and ‘Atlantist Integrationalists’ waiting in the wings to screw up things and sell the country to the highest bidder. This is because in fact, it did not start from zero every time when a ‘new tsar’ (or Secretary General of the Party) screwed up what the previous one did. Actually Stalin did not start from zero after the revolutionaries screwed up the works of Witte and Stolypin (and of the Tsar).

  21. Perhaps, it’s John McCain, a brute that is masquerading around as a Senator!

    • Replies: @Dagon Shield
  22. Andrie

    How will Russia respond to a massive Ukraino-Nazi provocation in Eastern Ukraine? Are there more Panstirs comming to Syria?

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  23. yurivku says:
    @Vojkan

    Medvedev has proven adequate in the economic field but has proven inadequate in the int’l field, cf. Libya.

    Do you really beleive that Medvedev could make his own decisions? He was just a temp figure warming Putin’s seat. And Libya – it was Putin’s choice actually. Why? Probably he was not ready yet.
    But at time of Crimea and Syria alot have changed in Russia and in the world. Probably he understood that there is no place to retreat (позади Москва (с).

    But of course I agree with Andrei just in some extent, now Putin lost his step in politics on ME, in US relations, in Israel-Syria-Iran matters and it’s dangerous for stupid West always sees that as weakness and could go futher to point of no return.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    , @Seraphim
    , @FB
    , @rkka
  24. @Vojkan

    I instead think that Western “experts” made their analyses and predictions by assuming that Russians have been permanently demotivated to stand on their feet during the Eltsine years. They projected on Russians how they would have reacted in similar circumstances.

    They made their “conclusions” based on false criteria and relying too much on Russian “liberals” (I omit here fringe so called “nationalists”, who are not nationalists really), both domestic and immigration, who, apart from being badly educated, sang exactly the sycophantic tune highly appreciated within US political class. There is also a narrow segment of Russians afflicted with Putin Derangement Symptom–those are mostly hipsters, with everything what comes with the territory.

    On the other hand Western “experts” tend to “mis-overestimate” themselves.
    The “mis-overestimation” and “low profile” effect is all explained in an IG-Nobel prize winning study by Dunning and Kruger.

    I wrote a book, and am writing the second one, precisely on how combined West, putting it in few words, has no idea what it is dealing with both domestically and internationally. Same ol’ story of emperor without clothes.

    • Replies: @Tim too
  25. Vojkan says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Which of the Patrushev? I suppose the son since the father is older than Putin. However competent he seems at his current job, Putin is the chief and I’m even more skeptic of a banker becoming chief than of a military.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  26. Y.L. says:

    Hello, Andrei,

    I like this post very much. I assume Team Putin understands that the United States is infected with a cancer and is dying, but it is very dangerous.

    And Russia is playing for time. Let the empire collapse.

    However, if another “provocation” i.e. false flag attack takes place in Syria, Russia will respond proportionately, i.e. attack the missiles, not the launch platforms, to avoid a war, unless there are many Russian casualties. Yet perhaps America will do that with as The Saker says, “Whatcha going to do about it” attitude. Then what?

    So, if I understand, Russia sees how divided and dysfunctional America is and will just ignore the crazies. I suspect joint not just CIA attacks took jets down (MI6 and Mossad?) but Russia takes the blows and plays the long game.

    But what happens if America’s masters push too far?

    And is Russian Intel aware of Israeli power?

    https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/3766/What-If-Everything-Weve-Been-Told-Is-A-Lie.aspx

    Orlov said nukes were used and he’s an engineer. They must know but won’t interfere in our internal affairs. Russia (which of course has its own sociopaths) must know how about the “Clean Break” plan but are trying to reassure paranoid Israel.

    Of course they must be. They’re not intimidated but they know who calls the shots. They can’t be like Gorbachev hoping for partnership and don’t realize that the plan for centuries is to conquer Russia and take its resources and people for human trafficking. I suspect human trafficking taking place in Ukraine.

    My point is that I think the crazies will push and do something that will prevent Russia from being left alone.

    There is too much hate. So I hope peace prevails. But I worry that America will do something crazy and start a war that it can’t win.

  27. @Vojkan

    Which of the Patrushev? I suppose the son since the father is older than Putin.

    I specifically pointed out that I am talking about current situation. Russian governance axiom for the last 100 years? Never again should some civilian cabal “rule” Russia. Only people with military-intelligence background, only with a very strong industrial-engineering, military or, generally, what is known in the West as “national security studies”, educational foundation should be in charge of Russia. Today, many from Russian elite are taught some crucial courses in Military Academy of General Staff–a timely and wise decision.

    • Replies: @Sergey Kriger
  28. Vojkan says:
    @yurivku

    From my evaluation of Putin’s character, I think you’re wrong. I think Putin let Medvedev make foreign policy choices even if they didn’t benefit Russia as long as they did not harm Russia. If Medvedev had made the right choice regarding Libya, Putin would have retired. Libya convinced him to seek another successor.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  29. @Felix Keverich

    I will gladly answer that question:

    You cannot answer this question since you have zero-background in military in a larger sense of the field. The only thing you can offer is regurgitation of the same old tired “talking points” used by PDS propagandists both in Russia and abroad. Some of them are on the payroll of appropriate foreign government and NGOs.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @I.M
  30. Seraphim says:
    @yurivku

    Perverse Putin let Lybia down foreseeing what a problem would become for the ‘West’.

  31. Respect says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Right , Franco did an excellent job , and if the americans ( and germans ) had not interfered so much promoting the left wing of the regime and attacking the right wing of the regime ( the assesination of Carrero Blanco ) things would have gone much better .

  32. Respect says:
    @neutral

    The US regime is not only antiwhite , is anti male , with its fanatic feminism .

  33. @jilles dykstra

    That happened because Franco was a marrano; he came from a converso family, and was true to his new faith, Catholicism. In the history of humanity, I found that con-versos (talmudist, converted to Christianity) are the truly history changing individuals. Once they find out the erroneous of their talmudic believes, and mend their ways, they become truly amazing, once truly Galileans.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  34. Respect says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Right , Franco organized Spain very well . When he died the americans ( with german help ) favored too much the left wing of the regime , and punished the right wing of the regime ( assesination of Carrero Blancocau ) , what has weakened Spain .

  35. @Y.L.

    I assume Team Putin understands that the United States is infected with a cancer and is dying, but it is very dangerous.

    Russia is on the order of magnitude more aware of the US than the other way around.

    However, if another “provocation” i.e. false flag attack takes place in Syria, Russia will respond proportionately, i.e. attack the missiles, not the launch platforms, to avoid a war, unless there are many Russian casualties. Yet perhaps America will do that with as The Saker says, “Whatcha going to do about it” attitude. Then what?

    I think events of April 13-14 and performance of Syrian Air Defense pretty much answered this question. Per Syria, again, it has to be clearly understood that Russian ROE were clearly stated to the American side prior. I would refer you back to Publius Tacitus, who is a high ranking CIA officer, and here it is:

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/trumps-big-flop-in-syria-by-publius-tacitus.html#more

    Russia can and will, if someone goes berserk in Washington, repel attack on her assets in Syria. Moreover, as none other than Igor Korotchenko confirmed, on April 13 Russian Navy and VKS DID have direct orders from C’n’C Putin to sink US ships if attack would in any way harm Russia’s assets.

    But what happens if America’s masters push too far?

    Conventional escalation to a nuclear threshold, but today Russia controls this escalation because she can take out conventionally any American asset in Europe and, if need be, rearranged stones (conventionally) in some NATO bases in Europe. In effect it is a “what it’s going to be” posture from Russia. Russia will not initiate, however.

    And is Russian Intel aware of Israeli power?

    Very much so, but Russia’s Jewish issue is nowhere near the scale of Israeli subversionof American politics, plus Israelis know that in the end it is Russia, not the US who will guarantee Israel’s existence. But that is a separate huge topic in itself. Let’s out it this way–BiBi will not revive any standing ovation, let alone 26 of them, from Russia’s Federal Assembly even if he ever invited to talk to it.

    My point is that I think the crazies will push and do something that will prevent Russia from being left alone.

    Russia is always alone. I have to go with Vyacheslav Nikonov here and support the idea that for Russia being out of all kinds of dubious alliances is the best thing to do. Economic and military cooperation? Sure. Bit no alliance with the West.

  36. @Avery

    Chinese used to have and probably have now the system that takes capable young men, and who go from the bottom up to the top learning ropes and getting experience. Just like in military going step by step in hierarchy. One has to think how was possible that 2 morons like Gorbachev and Yeltsin were capable to get where they did. May be people like there oratorical skills but should not have been there real achievements…

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  37. I would like to remind that Soviet Russia did have more than 20 peaceful years after 1945. And transformation considering damage form WWI, Civil War and Great Patriotic war was stunning. Hence we have to make a conclusion. Fool in power is far more dangerous then any external enemy. Now the question how to create the system to prevent undeserving and incapable people getting up there . Here comes the question of national elites and I do not mean those so called elites but actual line of taking people from school and running them up selecting the best both in professional, various abilities and moral qualities to serve the country and people.

    I also can understand why Stolypin was brought up. While his reforms did not succeed. he ultimately got 2 things right. Russia needed peace to develop and peasant question must have been resolved for development to take place. Albeit, only Lenin Stalin duo was capable of finally resolving this conundrum and considering advanced stages of decease pain was unavoidable.

  38. @DESERT FOX

    Who told you that nonsense about 3,000 Americans?

    • Replies: @bj
  39. Vojkan says:

    Agree. You don’t rule a country, and you definitely don’t make it advance with stat charts. You have to love your people. You have to feel your people. You have to not only love them and feel them, but also to have knowledge to protect your people. You have to share your knowledge with your people. You have to have passion to move your people forward. You have to transmit them your passion. Not in a negative way like the nazis did but in the positive Russian way. I hope the courses bring that to their knowledge.

    • Replies: @Wally
  40. @War for Blair Mountain

    How will Russia respond to a massive Ukraino-Nazi provocation in Eastern Ukraine?

    Putin was explicit on the eve of WC 2018 in Russia when warned of “grave consequences for Ukrainian statehood” should crazies in Kiev and Washington decide to go “rogue” in Donbas. I think the warning stands.

    Are there more Panstirs comming to Syria?

    I don’t know. I assume upgrades to Syria’s AD are being done constantly. As per Russia’s assets–I would repeat myself from a year ago–defense of Russian assets in Syria rests not only with state-of-the-art VKS and Air Defense there.

    http://www.unz.com/article/russia-the-800-pound-gorilla/

  41. Vojkan says:
    @in the middle

    In the History of Mankind, apostates have a record of being more Catholic than the Pope, or more Moslem than Muhammed. The path to God has to be one willingly chosen and it mustn’t destroy other peoples’ path. Franco was a fascist dictator who has pandered to many un-Christian Spanish traditions under the guise of Catholicism. The Left is awful and stinks. That doesn’t make Franco smell any better. It’s just one stench “out-stinking” another.

  42. Respect says:
    @Michael Kenny

    You sound like one of these yankees that ill wish all the nations on earth in the past ,present and future . All the prosperity that other nations may have is felt like an insult by the narcissitic yankee , who feels in a narcissistic rage that everything on earth belongs to him , forever and ever .

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  43. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    said:
    “Maybe he understands history, Hitler’s big mistake was to let himself be provoked by Poland.”

    Only if “provoked’ means that Poles were murdering Germans, stole German land, etc., etc,

    - You also ignored the fact that Britain & France did not declare war on the communist USSR which invaded from the east and took 60% of Poland.
    - You also ignored Poland’s seizure of part of Czechoslovakia.
    - And you ignored the USSR invasions of Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Iran, and invasion & annexation of parts of Romania.

    Polish Atrocities against Germans before 1. September 1939: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7525

    Polish AtrocitiesAgainst the German Minority in Poland: http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

    - 1922 Encyclopaedia Britannica, “SILESIA, UPPER:

    ”under Polish pressure the Germans in the southern and eastern districts were subjected to oppressive treatment. On Aug. 19 1920 the Poles felt strong enough, indeed, to make an attempt to seize the country by force. On all sides bands of Poles, chiefly recruited from Congress Poland, usurped authority. A number of Germans were forcibly carried across the frontier into Poland, and many were killed. Several weeks elapsed before it was possible to quell this rising and restore order…It had been suggested by the Entente that non-resident Upper Silesians of the German Reich should vote outside Silesia, at Cologne. Germany protested against this, and her protest was recognized as valid by the Entente. In January 1921 the date of the plebiscite was fixed for March 20 1921.
    An immediate revival took place in the use of terrorism by the Poles, especially in the districts of Rybnik, Pless, Kattowitz, and Beuthen. It reached its climax in the days preceding the plebiscite. Voters from other parts of the German Reich were frequently refused admission to the polls; sometimes they were maltreated and even in some instances murdered; and houses where outvoters were staying were set on fire… The day after the plebiscite the Polish excesses recommenced, and from that date onwards continued without interruption… Practically all the towns voted for Germany… the first days of May witnessed a new Polish insurrection which assumed far greater proportions than the former one. Korfanty had secretly raised a well-organized Polish force which was provided with arms and munition from across the border, and was reinforced by large bodies of men from Poland…
    By June 20 the British troops had again occupied the larger towns, while the Poles had the upper hand in the rural districts. As a result of the difficulties in paying his men and providing them with food Korfanty now lost control over his followers. Independent bands were formed which plundered the villages, ill-treated the Germans, and murdered many of them.”

    from the Polish newspaper Die Liga der Grossmacht in October, 1930:
    A struggle between Poland and Germany is inevitable. We must prepare ourselves for it systematically. Our goal is a new Battle of Tannenberg. However, this time, a Tannenberg in the suburbs of Berlin. Prussia must be reconquered for Poland, and Prussia, indeed, as far as the River Spree. In a war with Germany there will be no prisoners…

    Also, Von Ribbentrop defended the attack of Poland by stating that between 1919-1939, one million Germans had been expelled from Polish territory accompanied by numerous atrocities, and that complaints to the World Court in The Hague and the League of Nations in Geneva had been ignored.
    more:
    Dokumente polnischer Grausamkeiten. Verbrechen an Deutschen 1919-1939 nach amtlichen Quellen” (Documentations of Polish Cruelties. Crimes Against Germans 1919-1939 According to Official Sources).

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Respect
  44. Che Guava says:

    Desert Fox,

    Stalin’s political purges (although not his strategic errors on economics and cruelty) were largely with the aim of disempowering the cabal of which you speak.

    By the time of his death (or murder), he had largely succeeded, but they were worming their way back if not emigrating under his successors,

    So your timing is, I am thinking, a littie out. They were deprived of excessive power (not allowed to have influence disproportionate to their talents, as earlier they had) from the late 1940s, until at least the 1960s.

    By slowly working their way back up greasy poles (from somnolescent Brezhnev time if am interpreting correctly), many were well-placed and possibly influential on the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact and USSR.

    While there is much material on the vulture-like behaviour of some of them in Russia under Eltsin, not much on how they were placing themselves for it before that at the time, and for the economic rape of the USSR.

    There is no history in English or Japanese that is really explaining it, from asking on the ‘net, none in Russian, either (not that I can read Russian yet, but still an aim, at least to a little).

    Cui bono?

    The frontmen were ex-USSR statesmen and party chiefs of republics, but the question above is very relevant.

    In any case, Andrei’s article is as always interesting.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  45. Anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:

    George Washington said roughly the same thing as Stolypin about 20 years’ peace, viz. “Twenty years peace combined with “our remote situation” would “enable us in a just cause, to bid defiance to any power on earth.” Was Stolypin inspired by the American Revolution to any extent?

  46. Vojkan says:
    @Sergey Krieger

    I like to think of them as equivalents of the arson of Moscow in 1812. Russia had to suffer them as she had to burn Moscow to bring the invader in the open and chase him out.

  47. @Che Guava

    I base my comments in regards to Russia on Alexander S, Gulag Archipelago, and Robert Conquest Harvest of Sorrow and Anthony Suttons Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution and Gary Allens None Dare Call it Conspiracy, among others.

    These same satanic zionist forces are destroying America.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  48. @Andrei Martyanov

    Agree. It I’d not possible to leave things to chance.

  49. EugeneGur says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Hitler’s big mistake was to let himself be provoked by Poland.

    Poland was a nasty piece of work at the time but Hitler didn’t need any provocation.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  50. Vojkan says:
    @Respect

    Actually, I think he’s more like British than American and his comments must be how he earns a living. Or he posts from a house where those with impaired cognition are put to rest. Anyway, be’s on my ignore list.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  51. EugeneGur says:
    @Felix Keverich

    Externally, valuable time has been lost, as the Kremlin allowed a hostile regime in the Ukraine to consolidate.

    What do you means “consolidate”? By all indications, the Ukrainian regime is falling apart at every level and in every area. It’s entirely unable to accomplish even the most mundane tasks of running the country – recent Kiev flood following normal rain usual this time of year is the case in point. The country is broke, and the worst is yet to come. Even the dumbest nationalists are beginning to realize they’ve been duped. The population is running away in every direction – in 4 post-Maidan years Ukraine lost an estimated 30% of the population.

    Yes, they are as loudly anti-Russian as ever, but what does that prove? Every survey, even conducted by the Ukrainian agencies, show that the people want to end the war, improve relations with Russia and go on with their lives.

    If this is consolidation, I can’t imaging what utter failure looks like.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
  52. I.M says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    I hear a sort of strange fatalism being repeated that the Kremlin “couldn’t do anyhting” because of the 10,000 or so neo-fascist freaks that went berserk, demanding regime change, as if these were the absolute representative the population and their legitamacy could not be questioned. I heard similar rhetoric directly from Lavrov when he was answering some agressive Russian journalist. If i remember she was rather respected and not som western stooge.

    While i do agree that the military solution for “the borderlands” in 2014 was a non starter i don’t believe that they gave an appropriate response to the scenario as it unfolded, particular in the realm of so called “4th gen warfare” i.e. ngo’s and subversive actions.

    It would have been a trivialty to have built aup a substantial network of similar soft power instruments such as”

    1. TV stations. (how many were owned by Kremlin assets vs Globalist assets?)
    2. NGOS. (the protests organised outside of Crimea were mediocer and were unsuported)
    These need ot be backed up by street fighters in order to defend them and avoid the tragic events that occured.
    3. Grass roots type nationalists in favor of the opposite perspective i.e. pro the concept of unified “Rus” vs divided peoples.
    From what i understand they started to train people as such in Belarus, basically nationalist street fighters in order to directly counter the methods utilised however this comes too late.
    4. A REAL russian political party which is basically absolutely and openly in favor of greater unity amongst “Rus” as opposed to “we simply work with whatever parties are in power…”.
    5. An effective utilisation of intelligence to predict and apply whatever methods neccesary to “disuade” the instigators.
    6. Similar amount of funds spent on “(insert ideology) promotion”. The 25 billion in investments should have been accompanied by atleast a good chunk of that spent on protecting those investmetns, and there’s also the cost of the events that came after.

    I understand that there’s more to it than what was readily visible but from what we saw on those days, outside of Crimea, the forces in favor of Russia seemed extremly ill prepared and gave a quite flacid response.

    Also after the fact of it all, regarding the elections that occured afterwards, and this has been repeated various times from some sources in the government of the Peoples republics was that it was an absolute fatal muistake to recognise the outcome of the elections in Kiev as the main opposition parties had been expelled. Surely this delegitimises the elections? Surely if your going to be in favor of a rebellion then the legitimacy of the rebellion is inversely proportional to the legitimacy of the elections and governemnt?? Russia could have asked it’s allies such as China to not recognise the Kiev government, i’m quite certain they would have complied because of the precedents that were set that could be used to threaten Chinese interests.

    Please don’t mistake this for cynicism, your article has warmed my heart. However i think there’s much to be gained by practicing absolute humility and looking at our performance from a hyper critical angle.

  53. Talha says:

    I liked the article – glad to enter a phase where there is some more balance of power. One thing, you stated:

    On March 1 it became clear that Russia can strike any targets, including within the US, conventionally with US not being able to do anything about it.

    What I think you meant was; “with US not being able to prevent it from happening.” I can guarantee you the US will respond and do something about it – she is not Namibia.

    Russia plays a very long game

    And playing it fairly well too…impressive.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  54. FB says:
    @yurivku

    ‘And Libya – it was Putin’s choice actually.’

    What’s life like in disneyland Yurivku…?…I understand the singing puppets in ‘Small World’ are really delightful…

    Here is what Putin said about the ‘defective’ Libya UN resolution that Medvedev failed to veto…

    ‘This resolution is defective…if we look at what is written there, it becomes obvious…that it allows anyone to take any action against a sovereign state…and it reminds me of a medieval call for a crusade…’

  55. Y.L. says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Thanks Andrei.

    Russia is always alone. I have to go with Vyacheslav Nikonov here and support the idea that for Russia being out of all kinds of dubious alliances is the best thing to do. Economic and military cooperation? Sure. Bit no alliance with the West.

    I actually meant that the “his name is Mudd” crazies will continue to provoke Russia but as you say, our military is aware not to push too much, just keep biting the ankles in this “war of nerves.”

    On Mudd and his ilk as you eloquently and humorously wrote:

    http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2018/08/you-cant-handle-truthc.html

    The sad thing, if you listen to Prof. Stephen Cohen, is that Russia and America could help each other.

    Instead, the deranged Neocons have made an enemy (or at least a defensive Russia that is irrationally hated) out of a nation that could have been, as Putin says, a true “partner.”

    Oh well, every day you see signs of America’s disintegration and decay.

    Time is on Russia’s side. And as you write, the long game is being played.

    Trump, Democrats, Bilderberg, Neocons, Republicans, “banksters” have no idea.

    We’ll just have to pray they don’t go crazy but as you say, Russia can control escalation.

    Thanks for writing this and your time.

    But as Cohen said, we’re reaching the point that I, an American “talking” to you, a Russian will be defined by the crazies as treason.

    Look what they did to Butina.

    I gave money; I’m on the enemies list for sure:

    https://www.mariabutinafund.com

    Jatras was great here, that’s how I found it:

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/08/18/have-you-committed-your-three-felonies-today.html

    Thanks, Andrei. Godspeed.

  56. Baron says:

    Spot on argument, Mr. Martyanov.

    The Stolypin’s reforms could have indeed dragged Russia from her near medieval past to modernity, even Lenin acknowledged that, nearly gave up fermenting his revolution. His assassination put a stop to them. Could Putin engineer something similar? Hmmm

    But you’re very right on the US-Russia military stand off.

    The fact that the US has backed off in Syria, so far anyway, the first such retreat after the fall of communism in Russia, in a direct confrontation between any state and the Republic, speaks volumes. The US military must have figured they cannot win if they were to attack Russian assets there.

    If a conventional military confrontation between Russia and the US were limited to a region (say) the ME, the Baltics or wherever, and were to last months rather than years Russia would come on top. The military gear the country possesses is superior to what the Americans have. They, the Americans, need few years to do a serious MOT, most of their military hardware was designed in the 70s and 80′s, it does the job fighting the jihadists equipped with AK-47s and home made devices from fertiliser, it couldn’t neutralise what the Russians have.

    If, however, the conventional conflict were to go global, each side were to attack the adversary’s own territory, the conflict were to last years, then Russia couldn’t win, it hasn’t got the resources, the manpower, the industrial set-up of the US. Neither could the US win however because of the risk the Russians would turn to nukes. The whole world would lose.

    But, as the wise Chinese had it ‘one can predict everything but the future’. The Mandarin speakers jumping into the fray, not a prediction but a cert, cannot but change the whole geopolitical game. And jump they will.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  57. FB says:

    A good article…a nice contrast to the gibberish slimed on this site regularly by professional clown Anatoly Karlin…

    ‘…question must be asked–would Russia of August 2018 be possible should Russia of March 2014 have followed all kneejerk advices on part of all those “supporters”, “patriots” and “experts” (many of whom are not experts at all, nor are real patriots) who every day, since the return of Crimea home, never relented on, in their opinion for a good reason, accusing Russia of being weak, cowardly, not tough enough, timid, not hitting back…’

    Yes, hindsight is 20-20 isn’t it…I must admit personally that I had a lot of frustration about Russia’s supposedly ‘weak’ response to various provocations over the last four years…especially in Syria…but look where things stand now…Syria is nearly whole again…Turkey, once a steadfast US puppet is on the brink of drifting off for good [it may be a slow drift, but the outcome cannot really in doubt]…and the US is showing nothing but desperation on all fronts…using sanctions against practically the whole world…including its own EU puppets…

    This kind of lashing out from a position of desperation is only bound to blow up in your face…the entire world is looking on [for instance the Philippines] and voting with their feet and their wallets…and it all points to the East not the West…

  58. @Talha

    What I think you meant was; “with US not being able to prevent it from happening.” I can guarantee you the US will respond and do something about it – she is not Namibia.

    There is absolutely no doubt that US is not Namibia. Far, very far, from it, but you should keep in mind that, to the bewilderment of many Western “strategists” (quotation marks are intentional) Russia has the so called “escalate to deescalate” thingy, which is largely a nuclear “doctrine”. But in reality, by implication, splashes into the conventional realm just beautifully–how about a high precision strike by Avangard on the Diego-Garcia? Conventional, not nuke. Civilians there will largely be fine. Will the United States escalate immediately to nuclear counter-force? I don’t know, but neither does Pentagon in reality–introduction of new weaponry (and some more are coming) created this interesting strategic ambiguity which does favor Russia which now has options. Hey, couple of conventional Kinzhals at Rammstein or salvo of 3M14 at Aegis Ashore installation in Romania. A wonderfully effective conventional coolers. Only locals will hear explosions–no nukes, no contamination. Or, what if Russia decides to play dice–just play casino roulette deciding how to response–conventionally, nuclear or both? Can you imagine a stupor among those planners who do not know where and what is gonna hit them? Nuclear counter-force is sooo yesterday, so not hip;-).

    • Replies: @Tim too
  59. @Baron

    ‘ Russia’s medieval past ‘, writes someone whose country just exists for some 250 years.
    There are many books describing Russia’s past, Kiev, for example, is a city that existed since the 9th century at least.
    Read for example
    Kevin Alan Brook, ‘The Jews of Khazaria’, Northvale NJ, 1999
    Francis Dvornik, ‘The Slavs in European History and Civilisation’, New Brunswick, 1962
    Lonnie R. Johnson, ‘Central Europe, Enemies, Neighbours, Friends’, Oxford, 1996
    Herwich Wolfram, ‘History of the Goths’, Berkeley 1988, München 1979
    Michel Rostovtzeff, ‘Geschichte der Alten Welt, zweiter Band, Rom’, Bremen 1961 (The History of the Ancient World)

  60. @CF

    Thank you for your words.

  61. @FB

    Yes, hindsight is 20-20 isn’t it…I must admit personally that I had a lot of frustration about Russia’s supposedly ‘weak’ response to various provocations over the last four years

    Yes, it may take some emotional toll and it does. I recall Vlad Shurigin couple of years ago lashing out that “maybe we should have gone full in into Ukraine”. I am absolutely sure he changed his mind today.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  62. @EugeneGur

    No ?
    Read:
    Comte Jean Szembek, Ancien sous-secrétaire d’État aux Affaires étrangères de Pologne, ‘Journal, 1933 – 1939’, Paris 1952
    Poland wanted war, it had the illusion that the Hitler regime would break down in a few days after Hitler attacked Poland, and that Polish troops could enter Berlin, to join the city to Poland.
    Plan B did exist, Greater Poland after the allies had won.
    Simon Newman, ´March 1939, The British guarantee to Poland, A study in the continuity of British Foreign Policy’, 1976, Oxford
    Both plans, illusions, FDR and Churchill betrayed Poland, it just existed again in 1990.
    Jan Ciechanowski, vormals polnischer Botschafter in den Vereinigten Staaten, ´Vergeblicher Sieg’, Zürich 1948 ( Defeat in Victory, New York, 1947)
    David Irving, ‘Accident – The death of General Sikorsky’, 1979, München (German translation)
    There is hardly any doubt that Churchill even murdered Polish president in exile Sikorsky.

    • Replies: @Respect
    , @EugeneGur
  63. @I.M

    Please don’t mistake this for cynicism,

    You do not come across as cynical at all. And I agree with many points you’ve made.

  64. @FB

    Niall Ferguson, ‘Colossus, The Rise and Fall of the American Empire’, London, 2004, 2005
    The book was written fourteen years ago

  65. @Sergey Krieger

    I would like to remind that Soviet Russia did have more than 20 peaceful years after 1945. And transformation considering damage form WWI, Civil War and Great Patriotic war was stunning

    Absolutely. Some people simply have no grasp of what was accomplished from 1945 through 1965.

    • Replies: @Sergey Kriger
  66. Y.L. says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Oops, Andrei, I forgot to ask you.

    Even if this is not propaganda and true, Russia will refine the engineering. But American press and Intel agencies (same difference) are such liars, this news from CNBC (Comcast GE) may not be true.

    Any comment?

    Wonder if it was from a Mudd or Brennan clone with security clearance.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-21/russian-nuclear-powered-missile-lost-sea-recovery-efforts-underway-says-us

    CNBC explains based on its intelligence sources:

    Crews will attempt to recover a missile that was test launched in November and landed in the Barents Sea, which is located north of Norway and Russia. The operation will include three vessels, one of which is equipped to handle radioactive material from the weapon’s nuclear core. There is no timeline for the mission, according to the people with knowledge of the report.

    The U.S. intelligence report did not mention any potential health or environmental risks posed by possible damage to the missile’s nuclear reactor….

    Russian President Vladimir Putin had previously boasted of the missile’s capabilities, claiming during a March 2018 speech, “The low-flying, stealth cruise missile with a nuclear warhead with a practically unlimited range, unpredictable flight path and the ability to bypass interception lines is invulnerable to all existing and future missile defense and air defense systems.” He added that, “No one in the world has anything like it.”

    However US officials say the missile has thus far been a failure after multiple tests, which Putin was apparently fully aware of when he boasted of the weapon’s capabilities in March. CNBC previously cited unnamed anonymous sources privy to the intelligence that said the missile’s nuclear-powered system which would allow for unheard of flight range while carrying a nuclear warhead had failed to initiate.

    The writer confuses cruise missile with ballistic missile.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  67. Vojkan says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Going on full in and occupying a country of 40-45 mln, a quarter to a third of whom are nazioid life forms viscerally hostile to Russia, that would have been a neocon wet dream come true, Afghanistan in Russia’s craddle. A lose-lose proposition for Russia from starters. Let Ukraine drain her bodily fluids herself and avoid as much as possible shedding Russia’s youth blood in the process.

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
    • Replies: @Sergey Kriger
    , @Erebus
  68. @Y.L.

    The writer confuses cruise missile with ballistic missile.

    The writer also confuses make-believe world and reality. No, this baloney have been debunked in Russia on a number of occasions already. It is merely self-medicating. Plus, CNBC is a real news organization? Make no mistake, Russia does have failures during tests–it is normal situation and that is why tests are conducted, to study failures too, but in this particular case it is from the same opera as “hundreds of Russians” killed (deliberately, mind you) by US in Syria.

    • LOL: FB
    • Replies: @Y.L.
  69. Wally says:
    @Vojkan

    said:
    ” Not in a negative way like the nazis did but in the positive Russian way”

    So what was the ‘negative Nazi way’?

    http://www.codoh.com

  70. Cyrano says:

    Who do you like in a fight between a 1200 pound man and a 200 pound man? Going by the numbers alone, a 200 pound man doesn’t stand a chance against someone who is 6 times bigger than him. Unfortunately, the 1200 pound man is very likely morbidly obese and needs a crane to lift him in order to be taken to the hospital.

  71. Y.L. says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Thanks, Andrei.

    The writer also confuses make-believe world and reality. No, this baloney have been debunked in Russia on a number of occasions already. It is merely self-medicating. Plus, CNBC is a real news organization?

    So true, it’s what I thought so I should go with my instincts, honed by study and your teachings.

    Incidentally, here’s the link with Stephen Cohen talking about the new liar’s definition of treason.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/what-the-brennan-affair-really-reveals/

    He discusses the Mudds of Washington, and the Swamp has plenty. An excerpt:

    And yet, scores of former intelligence and military officials rallied around this unvarnished John Brennan, even though, they said, they did not entirely share his opinions. This too is revealing. They did so, it seems clear enough, out of their professional corporate identity, which Brennan represented and Trump was degrading by challenging the intelligences agencies’ (implicitly including his own) Russiagate allegations against him. It’s a misnomer to term these people representatives of a hidden “deep state.” In recent years, they have been amply visible on television and newspaper op-ed pages. Instead, they see and present themselves as members of a fully empowered and essential fourth branch of government. This too has gone largely undiscussed while nightingales of the fourth branch—such as David Ignatius and Joe Scarborough in the pages of the The Washington Post—have been in full voice.

    The result is, of course—and no less ominous—to criminalize any advocacy of “cooperating with Russia,” or détente, as Trump sought to do in Helsinki with Putin. Still more, a full-fledged Russophobic hysteria is sweeping through the American political-media establishment, from Brennan and—pending actual evidence against her—those who engineered the arrest of Maria Butina (imagine how this endangers young Americans networking in Russia) to the senators now preparing new “crippling sanctions” against Moscow and the editors and producers at the Times, Post, CNN, and MSNBC. (However powerful, how representative are these elites when surveys indicate that a majority of the American people still prefer good relations with Moscow?) As the dangers grow of actual war with Russia—again, from Ukraine and the Baltic region to Syria—the capacity of US policy-makers, above all the president, are increasingly diminished. To be fair, Brennan may only be a symptom of this profound American crisis, some say the worst since the Civil War.

    Finally, there was a time when many Democrats, certainly liberal Democrats, could be counted on to resist this kind of hysteria and, yes, spreading neo-McCarthyism. (Brennan’s defenders accuse Trump of McCarthyism, but Brennan’s charge of treason without presenting any actual evidence was quintessential McCarthy.) After all, civil liberties, including freedom of speech, are directly involved—and not only Brennan’s and Trump’s. But Democratic members of Congress and pro-Democratic media outlets are in the forefront of the new anti-Russian hysteria, with only a few exceptions. Thus a generally liberal historian tells CNN viewers that “Brennan is an American hero. His tenure at the CIA was impeccable. We owe him so much.” Elsewhere the same historian assures readers, “There has always been a bipartisan spirit of support since the CIA was created in the Cold War.” In the same vein, two Post reporters write of the FBI’s “once venerated reputation.”

    Is this liberal historical amnesia? Is it professional incompetence? A quick Google search would reveal Brennan’s less-than-“impeccable” record, FBI misdeeds under and after Hoover, as well as the Senate’s 1975 Church Committee’s investigation of the CIA and other intelligence agencies’ very serious abuses of their power. Or have liberals’ hatred of Trump nullified their own principles? The critical-minded Russian adage would say, “All three explanations are worst.”

  72. I reread this article Andrei. It is pleasure as usually. Thank you for your efforts.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  73. @Vojkan

    Let them suffer and learn. Such betrayals require lots of spanking. But eventually it will fall into Russia palm like ripe pear. It takes time and patience.

  74. @Andrei Martyanov

    Oh man. When I recall I literally feel like crying what country and people was destroyed. Such things must be prevented at all cost.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  75. If you are such a military savant, surely you must know that putting a stop to the shelling of Donbass, forcing Ukraine to adhere to the ceasefires and if they don’t, destroying anything they have anywhere close to the LDNR border does not require a full invasion. It doesn’t even require a partial invasion.

    Pretty depressing article overall. I’d say your own make believe rivals that of the western “experts”. Not because of your high opinion on the Russian military capabilities, which I fully share.

    Talking about rearranging stones in the US while Russians are being murdered and live under shelling right next door is just not serious. Or when the mighty Ukrainian navy seizes Russian ships (including a tanker recently) with impunity.
    Ultimately, your only real power is the power you are willing and able to use, not the “potential” power in hypothetical scenarios.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  76. mike k says:

    Stephen Cohen speaks the simple truth. The US spy agencies are the heart of evil.

  77. Respect says:
    @jilles dykstra

    I read that Churchill said that Poland was the hyena of Europe .

    Still is

  78. Y.L. says:

    Andrei, I forgot to ask: since titanium is used in Washington’s aircraft and missiles (not to mention Russian rocket engines for Trump’s SPACE FORCE), why don’t they stop providing it since it’s something that is weaponized as a threat against Russia.

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
    , @Erebus
  79. Respect says:
    @Wally

    Polaks , west Ukropians , baltics , always suffered from megalomania and pathological aggression .

  80. Y.L. says:

    Russia’s central bank on fire. What, Clowns In Action, like their TV Show “The Americans” or just *cough* *cough* coincidence and stupid Russians playing with matches?

    After selling U.S. Treasuries. Nothing to see here, move along.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-24/russias-central-bank-fire

    Having torched its US Treasury holdings, a fire has broken out in the building of the Russian Central Bank Bank of Russia on Moscow’s Neglinnaya Street, Interfax reports.

  81. Erebus says:
    @Vojkan

    FWIW, I considered it not beyond possibility that the Kremlin’s “inaction” was actually purposeful. I gave voice to that thought, perhaps even here on UR iirc.

    My hypothesis is that the Kremlin had been taking note of developments since the early 2000s, and had determined that an invasion would be counter-productive. They developed likely outcomes of “Orange Revolution II” and found themselves liking some of them. They then stood aside drawing the loonies forward in directions that would lead to one of those outcomes.

    My guess is that Ukraine is right where the Kremlin expected it to be at this time – halfway(ish) to the desirable parts (re)joining the Russian Federation, and the rest to being cut adrift to menace their neighbours.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
    , @Vojkan
  82. Very excellent article.
    Fact is that time is on Russia’s side,
    Russia is going up US is going down.
    Speed vector and position?
    Who cares!!!!

  83. S says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The US violated international law with its lend-lease program (laws the US itself was instrumental in having put in place – apparently if you make the law, you can break the law) and there was its undeclared naval war with Germany in the Fall of 1941, all in an attempt to get Germany to attack it.

    Germany sucessfully resisted this frontal assault, but finally the US suceeded in obtaining a German declaration of war upon it via the backdoor with its oil embargo provocation against Japan and the resulting Pearl Harbor. Germany honored its treaty commitments.

    As for the United States and Russia…

    Since the early ’50′s the powerful meme has been being placed in the US citizen’s mind that the United States and Russia are bitter irreconcilable enemies. No, that’s not in reference to the Cold War era 1950′s, but rather the pre US Civil War era 1850′s.

    In 1853, the major US establishment book publisher GP Putnam (now Penguin and then with offices in New York and London) published the book The New Rome excerpted below:

    The New Rome (1853) – pg 109

    ‘Thus the lines are drawn. The choirs are marshalled on each wing of the world’s stage, Russia leading the one, the United States the other. Yet the world is too small for both, and the contest must end in the downfall of the one and the victory of the other.’

    The book goes on to explain that it will be US aerial supremacy and its ability to project the same globally that is to guarantee the final victory over Russia’s land forces.

    The New Rome (1853) – pg 155-156

    ‘It [air power] will give us the victory over Russian continentalism. American air-privateers will be down upon the Russian garrisons, to use our own expressive slang, ‘like a parcel of bricks’…

    According to the book, the defeat of Russia by the US military acting in conjunction with the US-UK’s Capitalist economic conquest of the world, will be the capstone for the US-UK’s global empire, the New Rome, the United States of the World.

    A premise of the 1853 book is that the 1776 Revolution was a planned geo-political false split between the American colonies and Britain and in the future, after North American consolidation, the Capitalist US and UK are to reunite as a practically unbeatable power block.

    (The Anglosphere situation is complicated in this with the long term dysfunctional relationship which has existed between the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish peoples, a relationship ultimately harmful and destructive for both peoples. The situation is made even more complex with elements of the Anglo-Saxon elites and hangers on having adopted the unfortunate ideology of British Israelism.)

    Curiously, this parallels the Soviet defector A Galitsyn’s claim in New Lies For Old that the mid 20th century Communist Soviet Union and Red China ‘break’ was a planned geo-political false split and that they too would reunite in the future to proceed and conquer the world.

    In the link below from Majority Rights the eleventh entry of the comment thread compares Alexander Dugin’s land based Russian ideology with the ideology of the Atlantic Ocean based US-UK ‘New Rome’; each parallels the other closely, with each claiming the one is going to ultimately triumph over the other.

    What I wonder is if within Russia there may be some generally unknown old book much like The New Rome which has it that it will be Russia that defeats the US/UK bloc in some future global conflict, and then proclaims a world empire that it will dominate? Perhaps someone with a deep knowledge of Russian history could comment on that. Any insight into Alexander Dugin would be of some interest.

    Does Dugin know or speak of the US/UK ideology of the New Rome?

    When a person takes it into account that the 1776 American Capitalist and 1789 French ‘Red’ (ultimately Communist) Revolutions shared Founding Fathers in the form of Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and apparently Ben Franklin, not to mention others whom may have been operating behind the scenes…the very real possibility exist that the peoples of the world have been being quite destructively ‘played’ on a mass scale since 1776 in a manufactured faux Hegelian Dialectic.

    Anglo-Saxon, French, Russian, Jewish, and others whom don’t like the way this seems to be going (ie WW III followed by a global dictatorship likely fronted by some sort of fraudulent quazi political/spiritual leader that the multi-national corporations believe they can control and work through) have their refusal.

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_new_rome_or_the_united_states_of_the_world_1853

    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes

    https://archive.org/details/politicalprophec00goeb

    • Replies: @FB
  84. @Spisarevski

    does not require a full invasion. It doesn’t even require a partial invasion.

    Sounds like a high school teenager sex (or heavy petting) arrangements rather than sound and thoughtful strategy.

    If you are such a military savant

    I never stated openly nor ever implied anything of like. I am certainly nowhere near in my humble geopolitical and military offerings to a vast universe of Colonel (who never served a day in his life) Cassad and, especially, great strategic mind of our age Mr. Girkin. I think you will be better off asking such question, you know–about partial of full “invasions”–in those circles. I cannot answer something which will require a bit of a time and purely military-political explanations. I am sure “Colonel” Cassad and Mr. Girkin are briefed by Chief of General Staff and SVR on a daily bases, before ordering this loser Putin what to do.

    • Replies: @Mikel
  85. Old Left says:

    Dear Martyanov, your well-thought essays and assessments are always a pleasure to read and a necessary antidote to the unhinged juvenile drivel spewed out by Anatoly Karlin.

    I particularly appreciate that you grasp what most Westerners (of both the “Left” and the “Right”) are incapable of understanding: that a strong, illiberal (though not totalitarian) state is essential to the flourishing of a civilized, sustainable society. Otherwise the state and its considerable powers become hostage to the narrow interests of a self-serving plutocracy (which Jewish or not never pursues the best interests of the country). Liberalism is an effeminizing autoimmune disease that devolves society into a riot of competing tribes and subcultures.

    The Soviets were right. Western decadence is real. It need not be allowed to spread to Russia.

    • Agree: Iris
  86. @Y.L.

    Andrei, I forgot to ask: since titanium is used in Washington’s aircraft and missiles (not to mention Russian rocket engines for Trump’s SPACE FORCE), why don’t they stop providing it since it’s something that is weaponized as a threat against Russia.

    Precisely my (and not me alone) point. Does selling both titanium and landing gear, plus other aircraft components to US benefit Russia? Yes. Does United States pay accurately and on-time for that? Absolutely! Then why stop something which benefits Russia? Same goes for RD-180, which are also “accurately” excluded from US sanctions. No knee jerk reactions. Nothing personal, just business–as long as Russia benefits. And Russia does benefit. As Anon from TN said–if it benefits Russia, sure, why not deal with devil himself.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Y.L.
  87. @Sergey Kriger

    what country and people was destroyed

    That was generation of titans. That is why art was so humanistic and kind, especially for children–it was created by frontoviks, people who went through and survived that nightmare. That is why they lived anew. I know this through my adopted grandfather and his friends–veterans. And other veterans too, and I knew many of them.

  88. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    Insurance made a few speculators in Asbestos contaminated worthless high rise, sulfur cutter tool embedded real estate quite wealthy on 9/11 day. A drone aircraft avoided TAS gate security, a few people got killed, America was turned into an electronic prison, and Iraq was blamed, shocked, awed, invaded and colonized.; but none of these events cancelled the insurance company obligation to pay?

    I have a question.. My insurance policies all have exclusions to the effect they will not pay in time of war or chaos, can anyone explain what type of insurance is needed to be sure of payment in time or war or chaos?

  89. FB says:
    @S

    WHAT…?

    Air power in 1853…?…the first heavier-than-air flight was 50 years later in 1903 by the Wright brothers…sounds like Jules Verne to me…

    • Replies: @S
  90. @Erebus

    I gave voice to that thought, perhaps even here on UR iirc.

    Yes, I recall this.

  91. Avery says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Well said.

    It is quite amazing reading posts “advising” Kremlin to play the same stupid games that US & its “allies” (sycophants) are playing. More often than not, The Law of Unintended Consequences holds court in these situations. To wit, US & EU sanctioned Russia, and in response Russia sanctioned EU Ag products. The results was that Russian ag producers stepped in to meet the demand, and Russian ag business experienced a revival. And EU most likely lost the Russian market for its ag produce permanently (…at least a large chunk of the Russian market).

    Russia sells whatever it can to willing customers in the West for hard currency, and uses the dollars, euroes, etc to pay down foreign debt, develop whatever internally it needs to develop, and keeps buying and accumulating gold.

    If Russia were to stop selling e.g. titanium or rocket engines, US and others would be forced to find alternatives. And in time they would. Why not get the cold hard cash while there is still demand? And that’s what Kremlin is wisely doing. Russia is even selling natural gas* to US and UK despite the foaming-at-the-mouth torrent of hysterics and accusations emanating from London and D.C.

    ___________________
    *
    [Siberian Gas by Way of London Rescues Chilly Boston]

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-08/boston-imports-gas-from-u-k-site-that-got-first-siberian-cargo

    [UK takes first shipment from sanction-hit Russian gas plant]

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/12/29/uk-takes-first-shipment-sanction-hit-russian-gas-plant/

  92. RobinG says:

    BREAKING NEWS :

    In interview this week, #UkraineDNC whistleblower Andrii Telizhenko, says DNC operative @AlexandraChalup told him in March / April ’16 that the Democrats were planning committee hearing to remove @realDonaldTrump over Russian connections…this is BEFORE anyone knew about “hack.”

    Yeah. And she asks me, you should talk about it. You have a lot in common. You should get to know each other well, and Andrii, you should help her. And then she backs off, and Alexandra Chalupa introduces herself and says, I work for the DNC. And we’re working with Hillary’s team, and we are working really closely on getting dirt and information connecting, at that time, presidential candidate Donald Trump and his team…any of his team members, with Russia or any Russia Mafia, as she said. I was like, why do you need…why are you wild for that information? Because we plan to have a committee hearing in Congress in September, October, right before the elections, to take, at that time presidential candidate Donald Trump off the election. If we find or we’re getting any dirt within our hands that we can use against.

    From January, 2017-
    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
    Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

  93. Erebus says:
    @Y.L.

    To add to Andrei’s point, one need look no further than at what the sanctions forced the Russians to do. Namely, focus their talent and energy on replacing the stuff that had previously been all too easily bought from other countries.

    Selling the Americans vital components takes American money, but it also takes away the urgency that even the MIC would feel towards either developing their own, or switching massively to Space-X.

    Also, Energomash needs the orders. 17 of the 19 RD180/181 top-of-the-line engines they have on order for 2018 are from American customers. Take them away, Energomash may need a bailout and there’s still enough talent and certainly money in the US to develop work-arounds in short order if their critical Russian supply line was cut. The Russians know this, and so keep selling to keep that from coming into focus too sharply.

  94. RobinG says:

    TRUMP/RUSSIA was never about getting “the leader of The Deplorables.” The anti-Russian meme was fixed, no matter who won. Trump as POTUS is almost irrelevant. It’s about getting Putin.

    V. Putin put a stop to the vulture capitalist rape of Russia, spoiling the Harvard Boys’ pillage. https://www.thenation.com/article/harvard-boys-do-russia/

    Then he prosecuted Russian oligarch M. Khodorkovsky. BOTH the Democrat and GOP candidates for President in 2008 supported Khodorkovsky. In 2006, Senate Res. 322 – that backed Khodorkovsky – was introduced by Joe Biden and cosponsored by Senators Obama and McCain.

    Khodorkovsky, backing Bill Browder, lobbied for the Magnitsky Act.

    Bill Browder has now compelled Amazon to de-list [for the 2nd time] Alex Krainer’s book that exposes Browder’s fraud. Now it’s only available from Red Pill Press. Urge your libraries and independent bookstores to carry, Grand Deception: The Truth About Bill Browder, the Magnitsky Act, and Anti-Russian Sanctions. https://www.redpillpress.com/shop/grand-deception-bill-browder-magnitsky-act-russian-sanctions/

  95. @Y.L.

    Excellent link, thanks. Especially this…

    “Left or right, liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican, secular or Christian, no one dares to question the official story about the 9/11 attacks or the “War on Terror.” And those who do question it are themselves attacked unmercifully by the right and the left, conservatives and liberals, Christians and secularists, Sean Hannity and Chris Matthews. Why is that? Why is it that FOX News and CNN, Donald Trump and Barack Obama, Chuck Schumer and Ted Cruz equally promote the same cockamamie story about 9/11 and the “War on Terror?”.

    The Left/Right division is an illusion that is so transparent I can’t understand why even many UR commenters still cling to it. Cheers.

  96. @Vojkan

    I think he’s Irish actually. The trouble with using the ignore list is that you deprive yourself of the humour that people like Michael Kenny provide at no cost. The Irish have a wonderful sense of humour generally so I put it down to that.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  97. Seraphim says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    A bit of history:

    “Putin agrees with emperor that Russia’s only allies are Army and Navy”:

    “Russian President Vladimir Putin has said he quite agrees with a phrase once coined by Russian Emperor Alexander III to the effect ‘everybody is scared by Russia’s vastness’ and that the country has just two allies – the army and the navy.
    ‘I would like to remind you Alexander III, our emperor, once said that Russia has just two allies, the armed forces and the navy. In a message addressed to his son he warned that everybody feels scared at the vastness of Russia. Incidentally, there is a certain reason behind that,’ Putin said during the Direct Line question-and-answer session televised live on Thursday” (April 16, 2015)

    http://tass.com/russia/789866.

    Was not Alexander III who understood that these two friends cannot be reliable without of a strong , modern economy to sustain them? He started the process of rapid industrialization of Russia, reducing imports and expanding exports, particularly of grain. The ‘Tariff Act’ introduced in 1891 protected Russian iron, industrial machinery and raw cotton. The reforms of Stolypin had the same objective.
    The Transsiberian, the development of heavy industry were not, as some said ‘prestige projects’ who neglected the ‘light industry’ of consumer goods for the downtrodden masses sunk in abject poverty. BTW the project of the Transiberian was on the drawing boards since 1880, and the very idea of connecting Moscow to the Amur and the Pacific was as old as the first railways built in Russia by the nasty Tsar Nicholas I. Was it not for the transport of troops and supplies for the naval bases of the Pacific and for the economic development of Siberia and the Far East?
    I pass over the development of the oil industry, although it had much (very much, that is) to do with the ‘Grand Strategy’, with the wars and revolutions foisted on Russia. Enough to say that Russia was already a ‘gas station’ with army. By 1900 she was the greatest exporter of oil, breaking the dominance of the oil market by America. BTW Russian oil industry predates the American one.
    Oh, the economic reforms went in parallel with the ‘emancipation’ of Jews and anti-alcohol campaigns and state measures which severly dented the popularity of the Tsar.

    Did Peter the Great think otherwise? Who built the Russian Navy? And the Army? And the industry after all.
    But were not the ‘revolutionary narodnics’, the bleeding hearts for the plight of the peasants who wanted to return Russia to the Middle Ages (that they were decrying in the same breath)? To the ‘mir’, the preserver of the pristine ‘slavic soul’, unsullied by the fumes of industry and the greed of the capitalists?

    Russia always thought and acted in terms of ‘Grand Strategy’.

  98. @I.M

    I have no doubt that that one can find mistakes in the Russian policy in respect to Ukraine. However, I’d like to remind you two things. First, usually a small child learns not to touch a hot pot only after it burns itself once. Second, there is a saying “when you see your enemy committing suicide, do not interfere”.

    I don’t mean primarily Ukraine, I mean the US. Putin plays the big game, where Ukraine is only small change. When the US “acquired” Ukraine, they acquired a toxic asset. Every force Ukraine allied itself with was destroyed. Ukrainian hetman Mazepa broke his oath to the Russian throne and switched sides to Sweden. Peter the Great smeared the Swedes over the wall. Western Ukrainians faithfully served first Austro-Hungarian Empire, then Hitler. Where are both? Ukrainian politicians were “holier then thou” communists in the USSR. Where is the USSR?

    So, maybe Russia did not want Ukraine as an ally simply for the sake of self-preservation. If Western leaders had any brains, they’d never pick up that hot potato for the same reason. As it is, Putin likely feels like a homeowner watching a rat swallow poisoned bait.

  99. Mikel says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    I think you will be better off asking such question, you know–about partial of full “invasions”–in those circles.

    So you have chosen to carefully avoid answering Spisarevski’s reasonable questions in any shape or form.

    I was born basically on the opposite side of the European continent but still I find it very painful to see how innocent Russian civilians in Donbass are being massacred with impunity by the army of a dysfunctional country with a per capita GDP lower than Egypt’s.

    I am quite willing to believe in the ability of the Russian military to produce technologically advanced weapons but I’ll be much more convinced of how magnificent all that new Russian weaponry is when I see it actually used in some real world scenario. In the meantime, all I can see is how Russia is unwilling or unable to avoid the butchery of its fellow countrymen just across the border on a weekly basis by a Ukrainian army largely composed of neonazi volunteers.

    In the same Duma where Putin advertised the excellence of those new weapons he also solemnly requested and got approval for the defense of Russians, whether they resided in their country or abroad. Only months later hundreds of them perished under the indiscriminate shelling of the Ukrainians that has not ceased to this day. Reasonable people can’t avoid wondering how credible his words are and your failure to address a simple and legitimate question does not do any favor to that credibility.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Andrei Martyanov
  100. S says:
    @FB

    Apparently, the writer was referring to what would in time be zeppelins (ie dirigibles)…even so.

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_new_rome_or_the_united_states_of_the_world_1853

  101. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:

    @Mikel

    “I find it very painful to see how innocent Russian civilians in Donbass are being massacred with impunity by the army of a dysfunctional country with a per capita GDP lower than Egypt’s.”

    Maybe that is possible because the “dysfunctional country ” has Israel support and Putin’s best friend-the well known war criminal and The King of Israel- is his real boss ?

    No one doubts who is Trump’s boss. But for unknown reasons, some folks really do believe that Russia is an independent country and Putin is saviour of Christianity.

    “Russia is unwilling or unable to avoid the butchery of its fellow countrymen just across the border on a weekly basis by a Ukrainian army largely composed of neonazi volunteers.”

    And that from a country that supposedly suffered most from the Nazis. One would think that to respect those who gave their life fighting against Nazism, Russia would NEVER allow Nazis in power in their neigbourhood.

    But that isn’t surprising at all if the best friend of the new Czar of Russia is the leader of Israel’s Nazi party although he’s also a “democrat”. He wins elections. But even Hitler won an election.

    Don’t forget: Russia is, always was, “the best enemy that money can buy.”

    All those lies and half-lies about super weapons are only that: lies and half lies.
    And they are very good for business. Western MIC needs a powerful enemy. That’s role Russia is playing.

    Don’t expect to get any answer from Russian “experts”.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  102. dax2 says:

    Martyanov is edging closer to the dangerously smug “i told you so” stance in his thinking. Russian leaders are completely capable of incredibly stupid and incredibly good decisions just like any in any other nation. It just happened that Putin’s military-industrial elite, managers and technical crew are far superior and certainly have the quiet, desperate patriotism that is very vital and the only kind that works. The russian MIC has played a very smart asymmetric weapons development approach. That is all.

    The north americans and western europeans will fail horribly because their politicians, business elite, bankers and economists are eternally trying their best to pervert economic and financial systems as the engine of accumulation greed for the wealthy few.

    These NAWE leaders and their leech-families cannot be overthrown in the very violent ways required to cleanly reboot a society. Their electorate do not understand that justifiable violence of a revolution to seize the wealth of the criminal elite is an absolute must — truly democratic election is not about putting voting forms in a box; it is about bashing the brains of the criminal elite and irresponsible bankers with ballot boxes.

    No type of economic ideology actually works. Only greed works best. Even today, russia’s own deep state of greedy businessmen and pro-zionists can still seize power and destroy all hard-won humanitarian gains. Martyanov writes as if this clear and ever present danger is not factual.

    Russia will be world-dominant in less than 10 years. If putin and his successors are really smart, the russia they evolve should not dominate like the coercive american military hegemon or the jewish chinese economic hegemon. It should go for genuine international respectability and non-interference. Then their prosperity, which will exceed living swiss quality of life benchmarks, can last at least a century. As long as the russian MIC can control and destroy their own deep-state zionists, and neoliberal economists-criminals, the future of their people is secure.

    All these laughably idiotic sanctions of american political regimes will destroy their own people. Even the guys in zerohedge are just waiting for the sorry end of the american tale.

  103. @EugeneGur

    By all indications, the Ukrainian regime is falling apart at every level and in every area. It’s entirely unable to accomplish even the most mundane tasks of running the country – recent Kiev flood following normal rain usual this time of year is the case in point.

    lol A lot of cities in Russia are run like this. It’s gross, but it is no threat to regime’s hold on power.

    You are not being objective: once you get past the propaganda on both sides, you’ll recognise that regime now has full control of Ukrainian armed forces and state apparatus, its finances have stabilized, and it is facing no internal challenges to its power. In political terms this is what ‘consolidation’ means.

    For Russia removing this regime will be a lot costlier now, than it would have been in 2014. And Russia is the only one who can do it. Make no mistake about it: Ukrainian regime isn’t going to “freeze”, “collapse”, lose an election or otherwise disappear on its own. It’s a fantasy that Putin supporters are peddling to rationalise his passivity.

  104. Iris says:
    @Mikel

    “I’ll be much more convinced of how magnificent all that new Russian weaponry is when I see it actually used in some real world scenario.”

    This is a legitimate question. However, the extraordinary announcement made by President Putin on 1st March about the groundbreaking weapons developed by Russia was met by a non-less extraordinary, deafening silence from Western MSM.

    Shortly afterwards on 4th March, the bizarre Skripal “poisoning” affair broke out in the UK, a key globalist centre of power, which was used as pretext for further anti-Russia sanctions. Action, Reaction.

    Russia’s Western foes clearly believe in the existence and efficiency of this new weaponry.

  105. rkka says:
    @Michael Kenny

    Putin prevented loss of Sevastopol as Black Sea Fleet Base and prevented Donetsk & Luhansk getting the ‘Odessa’ treatment.

    He also stopped Saudi Barbaria’s Wahabi headchopper proxies taking over Syria & obliterating the religious minorities there.

    All these things were conducive to ‘Peace & Quiet’ for Russia.

  106. rkka says:
    @yurivku

    Putin criticized the decision, but recognized that it was Medvedev’s to make.

    I agree though that Medvedev’s 2nd term lies buried in the sands of Libya.

    • Replies: @Adrian E.
  107. Che Guava says:
    @DESERT FOX

    I was only to hitting ‘agree’, except am having little trust or belief in Conquest, even for his name.

    … and have read a little. The others, heard of and not knowing, but think you will find that ultra-left pop group singer from the band called ‘The Pop Group’ later used ‘None Dare Call it Conspiracy’ as a title, doubtless aware of the work you are citing.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  108. @Mikel

    all I can see is how Russia is unwilling or unable to avoid the butchery of its fellow countrymen just across the border on a weekly basis by a Ukrainian army largely composed of neonazi volunteers.

    Read by syllables–Donbas by all measures of international law is NOT Russia but part of Ukraine, which, for all her being a crazy shithole is still the subject of international law and is a sovereign nation, at least on paper. Nor the people of Donbas, at least most of them, are “fellow countrymen” of Russia–they are citizens of Ukraine. Evidently this simple fact is still not able to dawn on many pathos-ridden “defenders” of Russian people who continue to ignore real strategic and operational, enormous, limitations this situation imposes on Russia, despite the fact that Russia still supports LDNR by everything possible, including militarily. Obviously the good ol’ principle, propagated by Frank Herbert in Dune–Forms Must be Obeyed–is not known to people who ask such questions.

    Per “butchery”, despite occasional bombardment of civilian objects in Donbas, and some civilian casualties because of that, by VSU–the level of violence and losses in LDNR does not qualify as “butchery” in any way and is nowhere near the level of violence circa 2014-2015. Russia did largely “freeze” this conflict, including reducing it operationally to minor skirmishes along the “front” line–no major operations. Obviously this benefit of Minsk Agreement is being ignored.

    So you have chosen to carefully avoid answering Spisarevski’s reasonable questions in any shape or form.

    No, I avoided it not carefully but in a most arrogant and into-your-face manner: I am not here to explain basic facts, known to anyone who cares to look, nor am I going to read lectures on basic issues of strategy and operational art–in their basic forms (I omit here more serious and in depth issue of vertical structure of what is known as military art–this requires very serious academic background) they are totally within the grasp of just about anyone. The problem here is not with me: the problem with the question which cannot be called “reasonable” by any measure, especially since Russia does not “invade” other countries, for that we have another one which does just that, unless is asked by legitimate governments or until the danger, such as Ukraine, becomes a grave threat to Russia’s national security. Russia is doing more than enough for LDNR already, with those two heroic republics becoming an unexpected “benefit” for Russia during events of Spring of 2014.

    The last, but not least, Vladimir Putin is a President of not LDNR but of 150 million Russian citizens of Russian Federation and his primary role is to provide security for them and as in any war he acts out of their interests first and foremost and those actions require a little bit more (just teeny-weeny) expertise than by those faux-patriotic горлопаны (roarers) who are either clueless or are deliberate provocateurs.

    I am quite willing to believe in the ability of the Russian military to produce technologically advanced weapons but I’ll be much more convinced of how magnificent all that new Russian weaponry is when I see it actually used in some real world scenario.

    Evidently you were not following the news last 4 years.

    • Replies: @Mikel
  109. Anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:

    It was pretty obvious that he is bidding his time, and playing the long game. He is patient and wise. Wish we had one of him back here in the US

  110. @Anonymous

    Was Stolypin inspired by the American Revolution to any extent?

    I don’t know but there is very little doubt about Russian-American relations from mid-19th centuries up to Russo-Japanese War being extremely active and, overall, friendly. US played a very high-profile role, as one example, in relieving Russia’s famines and even Ayvazovsky left a famous (however hidden during Soviet times) painting: Arriving of Ship Missouri with Grain to Russia

    http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2008/russian-art-n08428/lot.36.html

    Russian villages with American flags was too much even for Bolsheviks.

    In general, Russian-American cooperation during Crimean War and during American Civil War could be characterized, for the lack of a better word, as allied. Stolypin undeniably was aware and, probably, influenced by those very significant events. Stolypin was born during American Civil War. Memories of those events were very fresh still in his formative years, especially when one considers who his mother was–a daughter of a general in a Crimean War–a marquee event in Russian-American relations.

  111. @Che Guava

    The late Gary Allen also wrote The Rockerfeller File, they are both out of print, came out in 1973 , but foresaw a lot of what has happened to America.

    Recommend the book The Committee of 300 by ex MI6 officer Dr. John Coleman, he lays out who and why America is being destroyed.

    Recommend the site Henrymakow.com , one of the best around and Beforeitsnews.com and Rense.com.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  112. Mikel says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    You may keep repeating all you want how superior your military knowledge is compared to the rest of us (including apparently Colonel Girkin) and complaining about “faux-patriots” and “provocateurs” among your countrymen.

    That’s all fine but it still doesn’t address the contradiction pointed out by Spisarevski. Russia has achieved a military advantage against the combined forces of the West with its magnificent weapons but is not willing or able to stop the indiscriminate shelling of Russophone civilians across its border by the army of a poor nation that would probably crumble without its neonazi volunteers.

    Your constant bragging gets tiresome too. There may be a good explanation for this contradiction but you’re failing to provide it. According to the latest UN figures, the number of civilians killed in Donbass is over 3,000. At last count, there were over 70 civilian casualties only in the year 2018. In my book that is indeed a butchery.

    And most people in the “LNDR” are as Ukrainian as the Crimeans. That is why they’re being shelled without mercy.

    If Putin’s public commitment in 2014 to defend the interest of Russians outside the borders of the RF did not encompass the protection of these peoples’ lives, it’s very hard to understand what he was alluding to.

  113. EugeneGur says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Poland might have wanted a war with Germany – I am not arguing with that – but even if it did, the desire was mutual. You really should stop pretending that Germany was a victim in the whole mess; that won’t fly.
    No matter what else was planned or done by other players, Germany did plenty all by its little charming self.

  114. Tim too says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Well there is this thing, ideological thinking, that is not really thinking at all, but ideological projection, and wish fulfillment.

    Various westerners are attempting to use an ‘inevitability’ factor, fighting a mind war, attempting to cause Russians and others to have images about how things will proceed, according to the wishes of the imperialists. What the imperialists are missing is that others are well familiar with these thought projection, and persuasion techniques. And so the fait accompli of mind that imperialists wish, does not happen in the intended subjects.

  115. Tim too says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    in economics they would use some such term as capacity, or “excess response capacity margin” etc . all kinds of terms, that mean Russia has large excess capacity for proportional responses in all dimensions/spheres (aerospace, land, sea, conventional, nuclear,…), up to the limits of any aggressor.

    Eg, while US has some doctrine about fighting multifront (aggressive) war, Russia has excess capacity for mutidimensional, proportional responses to multiple aggressors.

  116. Y.L. says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Then why stop something which benefits Russia?

    Thank you Andrei. Understand I’m neither Team America or Team Russia.

    But if the titanium is instrumental to weaponry potentially used to attack Russia and the U.S. has no alternatives, then perhaps it’s unwise to do so.

    Don’t think if America did purchase Avangard tech from Russia it won’t use it in a first strike.

    As to titanium and rocket engines:

    Why not then sell SU-57 and S-400 electronics to America? That would bring in fiat digital dollars as well. It’s a problem of your central bank and economy that you need fake money when you have hard assets i.e. as Paul Craig Roberts said, have your central bank create money you need and don’t rely on dollars whose end is coming in time. Your reasoning doesn’t make sense to me.

    https://www.rt.com/business/435760-russia-response-us-sanctions/

    Replacing Russian titanium would be next to impossible for Boeing. Industrial work with titanium began simultaneously in the US and USSR in the 1950s. However, only Russia has been successful in producing high-quality titanium alloys.

    Using other materials is also not an ideal option for Boeing. Titanium has major advantages over other alloys. Aircraft construction requires the use of materials that can withstand the severe pressures of flight at high altitudes, as well as constant exposure to the elements. Traditionally, aircraft were made of steel, but lighter, more durable materials are now used to extend the life of aircraft and make them more energy-efficient. Titanium is as strong as steel but 45 percent lighter. It can withstand long periods of exposure to salt water in marine atmospheres. The strength of titanium makes it difficult to weld, which contributes to its high price compared to steel and aluminum.

    I just don’t understand your reasoning for items that will be used for weapons production that will in time be used in attacks against your nation. This defies common sense, especially when America now is denying similar technology etc. that Russia could use in her defense.

    So is the conflict between our nations bogus to control both populations? Or are the Russians that stupid. Sorry, no offense. Sell potatoes to America but to give metals to build cruise missiles, aircraft etc. defies reasoning when we are allegedly in a war of nerves.

    I just don’t understand Russia’s reasoning.

    On the other hand, Hillary helped Russia by selling Uranium to Russians, so perhaps this is only right and proper.

    If you can explain why you don’t worry about the titanium coming back in the forms of missiles, bombs, aircraft that will kill Russians I’d appreciate it. Same for the rocket engines to be used to launch space force.

    And again, America just cut Russia off so obviously Washington doesn’t think as Russia does.

    I wonder if this conflict between America and Russia is really theater and all the Russians want is a seat at the table, though to me it looks like Mudd, Brennan, Soros, et al. really want Russians dead and enslaved.

  117. Roman F. says:

    Mr. Martyanov is a propagandist, albeit a talented one. I used to follow some of his blogs in Russian and never saw that he criticized any official developments, however bad they were. When it was getting really bad, like with the current “pension reform”, he simply remained silent about the topic. Wise. He always threads the party line and oscillates accordingly. I hope he is getting paid for his efforts)

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Andrei Martyanov
  118. Iris says:
    @Roman F.

    In my social circle, I know dozens of people who like myself have no link of any kind to Russia, and who nonetheless see this country as a beacon of hope in a world crushed by the Anglo-Zionist Iron Heel.

    The warmongering cabal who took full control of the USA’s foreign policy after the murder of President Kennedy has caused irretrievable damage to America’s image. On the opposite side of the geopolitical spectrum, Russia’s image has been incredibly enhanced by her respect of international law. Nobody needs to be paid to see that.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  119. @Roman F.

    I used to follow some of his blogs in Russian

    I had “some blogS in Russian”? I should really investigate my own life more in depth;-)

    • Replies: @Roman F.
  120. RobinG says:

    This whole article is very interesting, but I’m copying the part about Ukrainian-American Alexandra Chalupa, her anti-Russian smear and the Democratic Party conspiracy against Trump/Putin.

    The Anonymous Blacklist Promoted by the Washington Post Has Apparent Ties to Ukrainian Fascism and CIA Spying
    Digging deeper into the PropOrNot controversy.

    https://www.alternet.org/media/anonymous-blacklist-promoted-washington-post-has-shocking-roots-ukrainian-fascism-eugenics-and

    One of the key media sources who blamed the DNC hacks on Russia, ramping up fears of crypto-Putinist infiltration, is a Ukrainian-American lobbyist working for the DNC. She is Alexandra Chalupa—described as the head of the Democratic National Committee’s opposition research on Russia and on Trump, and founder and president of the Ukrainian lobby group “US United With Ukraine Coalition”, which lobbied hard to pass a 2014 bill increasing loans and military aid to Ukraine, imposing sanctions on Russians, and tightly aligning US and Ukraine geostrategic interests.

    In October of this year, Yahoo News named Chalupa one of “16 People Who Shaped the 2016 Election” for her role in pinning the DNC leaks on Russian hackers, and for making the case that the Trump campaign was under Kremlin control. “As a Democratic Party consultant and proud Ukrainian-American, Alexandra Chalupa was outraged last spring when Donald Trump named Paul Manafort as his campaign manager,” the Yahoo profile began. “As she saw it, Manafort was a key figure in advancing Russian President Vladimir Putin’s agenda inside her ancestral homeland — and she was determined to expose it.”

    Chalupa worked with veteran reporter Michael Isikoff of Yahoo News to publicize her opposition research on Trump, Russia and Paul Manafort, as well as her many Ukrainian sources. In one leaked DNC email earlier this year, Chalupa boasts to DNC Communications Director Luis Miranda that she brought Isikoff to a US-government sponsored Washington event featuring 68 Ukrainian journalists, where Chalupa was invited “to speak specifically about Paul Manafort.” In turn, Isikoff named her as the key inside source “proving” that the Russians were behind the hacks, and that Trump’s campaign was under the spell of Kremlin spies and sorcerers.

    * * *
    Meanwhile, Chalupa’s Twitter feed went wild accusing Trump of treason—a crime that carries the death penalty. Along with well over 100 tweets hashtagged #TreasonousTrump Chalupa repeatedly asked powerful government officials and bodies like the Department of Justice to investigate Trump for the capital crime of treason. In the weeks since the election, Chalupa has repeatedly accused both the Trump campaign and Russia of rigging the elections, demanding further investigations. According to The Guardian, Chalupa recently sent a report to Congress proving Russian hacked into the vote count, hoping to initiate a Congressional investigation. In an interview with Gothamist, Chalupa described alleged Russian interference in the election result as “an act of war.”

    To be clear, I am not arguing that Chalupa is behind PropOrNot. But it is important to provide context to the boasts by PropOrNot about its Ukrainian nationalist links—within the larger context of the Clinton campaign’s anti-Kremlin hysteria, which crossed the line into Cold War xenophobia time and time again, an anti-Russian xenophobia shared by Clinton’s Ukrainian nationalist allies. To me, it looks like a classic case of blowback: A hyper-nationalist group whose extremism happens to be useful to American geopolitical ambitions, and is therefore nurtured to create problems for our competitor. Indeed, the US has cultivated extreme Ukrainian nationalists as proxies for decades, since the Cold War began.

    As investigative journalist Russ Bellant documented in his classic exposé, “Old Nazis, New Right,” Ukrainian Nazi collaborators were brought into the United States and weaponized for use against Russia during the Cold War, despite whatever role they may have played in the Holocaust and in the mass slaughter of Ukraine’s ethnic Poles. After spending so many years encouraging extreme Ukrainian nationalism, it’s no surprise that the whole policy is beginning to blow back.

  121. @Iris

    I agree about the image. I remember in 2008, when Western MSM were not 100% Goebbelsian yet, when The Guardian still had comments that were not curbed and heavily censored, lots of people from the third world openly rejoiced that by decisively beating Georgia Russia gave the US a black eye by proxy. I never thought there is so much hatred of the US in the world. Yes, when the Empire crumbles (and it is clearly when, not if) there will be hell to pay.

    However, since then Russia did nothing to prevent the destruction of Libya by the US and its sidekicks. For four years (2011-2015) Russia did nothing to prevent the rampage of the US and Saudi proxies in Syria, it only interfered in 2015. The results are striking: head-choppers supported by the West are losing catastrophically. So, what took Russia so long? While Russian tactics regarding Ukraine takeover by the US- and EU-supported Nazis can be seen as letting the rat eat poisoned bait, it still tolerates a lot of atrocities committed by current regime in Kiev.

    Andrei is right that Putin is first and foremost the President of Russia, so his primary responsibility is the well-being of 150 million Russian citizens, not of ~5-6 million of residents of LNDR. He tries to minimize the costs for Russia, while blocking Nazi attempts to take over Donbass. Arguably, this results in more civilian casualties than direct move of the Russian army to take full territory of both Lugansk and Donetsk regions and scare the shit out of the Ukrainian army. However, considering that the US repeatedly pushed Ukraine to provoke Russia into war, I guess what Putin is doing makes sense: at least it frustrated the Empire and its planners.

    Yes, the image is good. But the image is not an end in itself, it is one of the means to an end. To be of value, it should be used.

    • Replies: @Erebus
    , @Iris
  122. Seraphim says:
    @Anonymous

    If Stolypin and Witte before him have been inspired by any American, then it had to be Friedrich List, the champion of ‘national economies’ and ‘protectionism’, ‘development of railways’ and adversary of the ‘Laissez faire, laissez aller’ of the liberal economies. He predicted like before him did Alexis de Tocqueville, that the United States and Russia would become the most powerful countries.

  123. Vojkan says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    He’s a bit too repetitive for my taste to still be funny.

  124. Roman F. says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Hello there, Legatus Gunter, at least you do not protest other things I said. Good. Take care of yourself.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  125. Vojkan says:
    @Erebus

    “My guess is that Ukraine is right where the Kremlin expected it to be at this time”

    A tad too far-fetched, imho. The only maybe undesirable part of Ukraine is Galicia, which was in Eastern Poland between the World Wars. I don’t see Russia linking Donetsk-Mariupol-Odessa-Transnistria in Moldova using military means, so the current situation in Ukraine is definitely not in the interest of ethnic Russians in the region. My guess is that Russia would much rather have had the status quo in Ukraine continued for the time being, with progressively establishing a closer relationship as for example with Belarus being the eventual goal, instead of having the current chaos with more and more people leaving the country and having neo-nazis tightening their grip on a bankrupt country.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  126. Seraphim says:

    In 1877 under the pressures of the public opinion of ‘Europe’, and of the Pan-slavist opinion in Russia aghast at the barbarities inflicted upon the Bulgarians by the Ottomans, Russia declared war on Turkey, against the reticence of Tsar Alexander II and his Government, who tried to solve the problem through an European conference in the spirit of the ‘Concert of Nations’ which prevailed in Europe in the wake of the Congress of Vienna of 1815 until it was suffocated by the policy of Britain to keep alive the rotting alive ‘sick man of Europe’, the Ottoman Empire, in order to exclude Russia from the Straits. The Tsar and his Government strenuously opposed what appropriately the Russian minister of Home Affairs, Piotr Valuyev, called the ‘Slavophile onanism’. And they were not wrong. The victories of the ‘Slavophiles’ turned sour immediately. They immediately have been denounced as ‘Russian Imperialism’ intoxicated by its dream of getting Constantinople and the jingoistic campaign to ‘not allow them have Constantinople’ went in overdrive.

  127. Che Guava says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Thank you.

    I know of two of the sites you recommend, as for Rense, I don’t know, but sure, checking the one I was not knowing of, and have not read makow lately, but good impression when I was reading links from other sites to there.

    As for the books, perhaps one or two are in Tokyo library system, will check. Hate Amazon, never bought anything from them.

    I strongly recommend a somewhat trashy SF novel titled The Coming Self-Destruction of the USA, it is written from a hippy gen. perspective, so anachronistic on some things, but from what I read of U.S.A. politics, prescient on many points.

    Having read The Turner Diaries last year, I suspect Pierce had read The Coming Self-Des…, and it was to some extent his reaction.

    However, it is not the same kind of thing at all, it is narrated in omniscient style.

    Can’t recall how it ended, wish I had brought it back to Japan, but I think some junky kleptomaniac and bibliophile had already stolen it, among many other rare ones I had found in many hours in second-hand bookshops, many others also not seen when packing.

    Never trust a junky! Foolishly naive me to leave the loungeroom for a second with him there.

    However, if you are a U.S.A. resident, and library member, if your local library does not have the book, you can likely read it through inter-library.

    Guarantee that you will enjoy reading it, despite the dated slang and other dated things. it seems much more relevant to now than to the time I was reading it.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  128. @anonymous

    Correction!!!!
    Hitler never won an election.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  129. Erebus says:
    @AnonFromTN

    For four years (2011-2015) Russia did nothing to prevent the rampage of the US and Saudi proxies in Syria, it only interfered in 2015.

    I couldn’t let this go.

    Russia had been supplying the Syrian Arab Army the vast bulk of their eqpt, maintenance parts, weapons, and much of the training during the years when the SAA, with HZB and Iranian militias, was holding its own. Then in Jan 2015 things started going badly, and there was concern that the SAA may collapse as it started losing personnel at an alarming rate while Jihadis poured in daily. At the 11th hour for the SAA, Assad finally made a formal request to the Russians to enter the war. Until that request was made, Russia had no mandate to do more.

    When Assad finally made that request in July 2015 (IIRC ), the Russians moved with lightning speed. The results, as you say, are striking. We have no way of knowing whether they’d been pressing Assad to make the request before then, but the Russians were obviously well prepared for it when it came.

    In short, the Russians did everything their ally asked of them, and more.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  130. @Che Guava

    The mention of Japan , you might check Rumormillnews.com and Fourwinds10.com as they carry Benjamin Fulfords reports and he is a Canadian living in Japan and is a person who has high level contacts in Japan and elsewhere and his reports are very interesting.

    By the way another good site is SGT.com.

  131. Erebus says:
    @Vojkan

    A tad too far-fetched, imho.

    Well, it’s a conjecture. Still, “the interest(s) of ethnic Russians” are not the same as the interests of the Russian Federation.

    … Russia would much rather have had the status quo in Ukraine continued for the time being…

    Well, who wouldn’t? Buying time is generally a good thing.

    However, the idea of developing “a closer relationship” wasn’t in the cards (imho). Ukraine was too far adrift from its moorings to be saved as is. It needed, and still needs, a national crisis to bring it ’round to reason. It’s getting there. Religious, social, political and cultural conflicts are brewing. When it finally explodes and enough blood has been spilled to bring them to their senses, the Ukraine will be part of Russia again. Or, at least those parts that bring value to the Russian Federation. From its perspective, the rest can drift off and be subsumed by whatever country will take them.

    As for Belarus, it’s interesting to note that Lukashenko has broached the idea of rejoining the Russian Federation.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    , @AnonFromTN
  132. Vojkan says:
    @Erebus

    Lukashenko floated the idea of reuniting Belarus with Russia because he dreamt of taking over Putin’s chair after the latter retires. When he realised that he was having a pipe dream, he decided to stick to the power he had where he had it.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  133. Che Guava says:

    Thanks. but I have serious work and other things to do (like replying to mail).

    I will check all of those, although I doubt that a Canadian has any real insight or knowledge, of those I have met, the French were closed but nice people, anglophones were just like American jocks.

    Do not need the advice of idiots on what is going on, it is my language, our MSM disgusts by its stupefying idiocy (policy in itself). From the timing of your posts, guessing a similar time zone, if not shift work or bad trouble falling asleep.

    So, maybe you can still find a copy of the good B-grade novel I was to recommending, through inter-library. Maybe not.

  134. Ivan K. says: • Website

    Ha ha ha. I read this Martyanov’s article right after I finished reading this one:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/russia/comments/9afve9/the_powerlessness_of_the_russian_state_neboj%C5%A1a/

    The pictures they paint could hardly be more different. Indeed, they are like mirror images of one another… A good demonstration of the diversity of human characters.

    • Replies: @FB
  135. @Erebus

    That’s part of the truth. Did you see videos of SAA fighting in 2011-2015? Pathetic WWII artillery pieces where the shells were loaded manually, etc.

    Modern Russian military hardware and training necessary to use it was coming to Syria only since 2015. Looks like Russia provided not only that and the air force worth the name, but also high-quality coordination of SAA, Iranian military, Hezbollah, and Russian forces: the operational and tactical performance increased dramatically, whereas the losses of Iranian and Syrian high-ranking officers dropped. Now every sane person (including a lot of Islamist bandits) knows that full defeat of the head-choppers is only a matter of time. Hence the hysterics of the Empire.

    Naturally, I have no idea when Assad formally asked Russia for help. I have my doubts that he did not do so before 2015. Chances are, Putin was biding his time, as he is playing a game that is much greater than Syria or Ukraine. Good luck to him: we do need a world where no country can proclaim itself “exceptional” or “indispensable” and commit despicable crimes with impunity. By “we” I mean the whole world, including Americans.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  136. @Roman F.

    Hello there, Legatus Gunter

    LOL! So you do not have faculties to distinguish between me and some, much younger, graduate of military medical academy who got himself into writing fantasy and sci-fi books.

    https://www.facebook.com/gunter.petrograd

    https://www.litmir.me/a/?id=2317

    FYI, I don’t have any social media accounts. Plus, of course, I am a decade or so older than this fiction writer and… role player. My mug can easily be found on the back cover of my book and on my publisher’s website. Have a nice life.

    • Replies: @Roman F.
  137. Iris says:
    @AnonFromTN

    The terrible suffering of people in the Donbass is indeed unbearable, as was the destruction of Libya. Still, is it fair to blame Russia for her apparent lack of support?

    Geopolitics is the longest game of all, but somehow, far from ending as vainglorious neo-cons wanted the world to believe in 1989, History seems to have in fact accelerated, with so many defining events occurring over a very short time span.

    Not so long ago, Russia was “trapped” by Brzezinski in Afghanistan, while trying to rescue a relatively modernist government that would have probably been better for the Afghan people than the patriotic but backward Taliban who replaced it.
    Shortly afterwards, while Russia was brought on her knees, her financial and economic assets ripped off following a coloured revolution that put an alcoholic in power, she was again stabbed from inside by a Chechen rebellion mostly motivated by Wahabbi delusions of religious purity.
    Similarly, in Eastern Europe and Western Ukraine in particular, the EU’s empty promises of rapid prosperity have been easily swallowed by a gullible population. A Russian intervention would have cristallized an international anti-Russia front under apparent EU leadership, with not only Russia losing key trade partners (Germany), but also having to fight directly on its borders.

    The people in Donbass are paying a high and unfair price because of the lack of political maturity in Western Ukraine, but it is difficult to make a situation good for a people against their own will. By and large, Afghans, Syrians, Libyans and Ukrainians, as nations, are all paying a terrible price to embrace modernity and learn precious unity lessons from History. Russia should not have to pay the price for that. With kind regards.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  138. Roman F. says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    If this is indeed the case then please accept my apologies. I do not expect the same from you, however.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  139. @Erebus

    Lukashenko has as much chance of becoming Russian president as you or I.

    I partially agree about Ukraine: it was drifting ever since 1991, gradually sliding down while clinging to the pipe dream of joining the EU (There is Russian joke: when will Ukraine join the EU? Soon after Turkey. When will Turkey join the EU? Never.) Only a national catastrophe can bring it back to its senses, and thanks to the current “leaders” that catastrophe is clearly in the cards.

    However, I think that Putin would never let Poland have any part of Ukraine. Paradoxically, it is very likely that in the end Putin (or whoever succeeds him) will be the only protector of the “territorial integrity” of Ukraine (minus Crimea, which is gone irreversibly), which must become a federation or even confederation to survive. It will either fall apart or become neutral. Its industry will never get the orders it used to have from Russia. Transit fees for natural gas won’t come back, ether. So the rehabilitation of Ukraine will be slow and painful. But that’s the only path open to it to avoid Somali-style existence or even worse.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  140. @Iris

    At the intellectual level, I agree 100%. I agree that Russia cannot be expected to clean up every pile of steaming shit the Empire leaves behind where countries used to be.

    However, on the emotional level I wish something could be done: I grew up in Lugansk, have friends there, and had to evacuate my mother from there because of shelling of residential areas by Ukie Nazis. One of their shells also hit the school I went to, another hit the library where I used to borrow books. Thank goodness, now Ukies have been pushed back from Lugansk far enough, so they can’t shell it any more, but they are still shelling every Donbass city they can.

    I strongly believe that Ukie war criminals should be punished, and I do hope every one of them gets the noose they amply deserve.

    • Replies: @Iris
  141. @Roman F.

    If this is indeed the case then please accept my apologies

    No need to apologize, just be more attentive.

  142. Seraphim says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Hitler did not win the Presidential elections of March 1932. But the NSDAP became the largest party in the Parliament in the federal elections of July 1932, albeit short of majority. The Parliament was dissolved in September 1932 because of the impossibility to form a working coalition and in the new elections of November 1932 the NSDAP mentained its position and entitled to select the President of the Reichstag, which was Goering. Hitler was appointed Chancellor in a ‘Regierung der nationalen Konzentration (Government of National Concentration)’ with the DNVP (Deutschnationale Volkspartei) by the President of the Reich. It was not a coup d’etat.
    The KPD (Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands) was at the time more preoccupied to fight the ‘social fascists’ of the SPD and losing popularity resorted to the insurrectionist tactics. Actually the ‘rise to power’ of the ‘Nazis’ was punctuated by pitched battles between the SA and the Rotfront. The emergency powers adopted by the regime in the wake of the Reischstag fire were those of the Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution which were used before to ban the SA and SS all across Germany.
    The Enabling Act of 1933 was in the frame of the Constitution and was adopted by a two-third majority of the Reichstag. In fact it was renewed twice, in 1937 and 1941.
    All democracies have emergency laws for the protection of the state.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  143. Seraphim says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Probably Ukraine should remain what it actually was, a border land between more solidly established states.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  144. @Seraphim

    Politically, it can only fulfill this role as a federation or confederation. It is too heterogeneous to survive otherwise.

    As far as the economy goes, it will never be what it was. There will be no more Russian subsidies in the form of cheap natural gas and other commodities, there won’t be transit fees for natural gas, ammonia, cargo trains, etc., there won’t be Russian orders that kept the Ukrainian industry afloat. Ukraine will get the ultimate independence: it will have to pay its way. That’s what their “leaders” are scared of most.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  145. Erebus says:
    @Vojkan

    He mooted the idea in a speech 2 months ago, following 2-3 days of in-camera meetings with Putin. I haven’t heard of him disavowing it since. Did he?

    During the speech, he voiced his concerns about Belarus’ ability to carry on as an independent country in the face of colour revolutions and NATO on Belarus’ doorstep. These concerns would seem to be quite realistic, especially when one also considers that there’s no viable successor on the horizon.

    Lukashenko looks to be in good health, but he’s of the same age as Putin who’s at least equally robust. If he really did think he could succeed Putin, he’s been hiding his delusional personality rather well. OTOH, being allowed to carry on as Governor of Belarus, and perhaps at some other powerful post into his dotage could be attractive to him. Better than joining Yanukovych in Rostov.

    Anyway, 2 months is a very short time, and there’s been plenty of other developments to keep this on the backburner. I continue to expect developments along this line in the future.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  146. Seraphim says:
    @AnonFromTN

    And of course, it will not be by shouting “Slava Ukrayini!” – “Heroyam Slava!” at every turn, that would save them.
    Actually, initially it was: ““Slava Ukrayini!”- “Kozakam Slava!”,“Slava Ukrayini!”-“Hetmanu Slava!”
    It was the slogan of the ‘Black Zaporozhtsi Cavalry Regiment’, a unit of the UNR – The Ukrainian People’s/National Republic, ironically the descendants of the ones who some centuries ago begged the Moskali to take them under their protection.
    It had nothing to do with the ‘Bandеrivtsi’ or ‘Ukro-Nazis’. Not that the ‘chocolatier’ has anything to do with the Banderivtsi either.

    The ‘precursor’ of the ‘Ukrainian Constitution’, the Bendery Constitution of Pylyp Orlik was:
    “TREATY AND COVENANT OF LAWS AND LIBERTIES OF THE ZAPOROZHIAN HOST, AGREED UPON BETWEEN HIS HIGHNESS PYLYP ORLYK, THE NEWLY ELECTED HETMAN OF THE ZAPOROZHIAN HOST, AND THE GENERALS, COLONELS, AND ALSO THE SAID ZAPOROZHIAN HOST, DULY PROMUL­GATED BY BOTH SIDES AND AFFIRMED BY A FORMAL OATH IN A FREE ELECTION BY THE SAID HETMAN AT BENDERY ON THE FIFTH DAY OF APRIL, IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 1710 …
    and was drawn in the name of:
    “Zaporozhian Host and the oppressed Ruthenian [Rossiaca] people liberated from Polish servitude”
    Orlik pledged “to love my country Rus’ [Rox­olanae], our mother”.

    But who were the Cossaks? the same constitution tells us:
    “the valiant and ancient Cossack people, formerly called Khazar, was at first exalted by immortal glory, spacious territory, and heroic exploits which inspired fear both at sea and on land not only among neighbouring peoples but even in the Eastern Empire, so much so that the Eastern emperor, wishing to make lasting peace with it, joined his son in matrimony to the daughter of the Khagan, that is to say, the Cossack ­prince…”

    There is then a place for the ‘chocolatier’ after all.

  147. yurivku says:
    @Vojkan

    If Medvedev had made the right choice regarding Libya, Putin would have retired. Libya convinced him to seek another successor.

    You probably evaluated Putin’s character not deep enough. He won’t allow anything go not like he thinks to be right. If he can of course. But he could. Medvedev is just nothing, absolute zero and everyone here in Russia knows that.

  148. @AnonFromTN

    It’s a shame Assad and the “Syrians” can’t fight their own wars.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  149. Iris says:
    @AnonFromTN

    The plight of the people in Donbass is heartbreaking.

    The EU’s hypocrisy towards the crimes committed by the Ukro-Nazis in power in Kiev is just sickening; such crimes are never reported in mainstream press.

    Recently, the Consul General of Ukraine in Hamburg was finally dismissed, after, among other things proposing to add the svastika to the Ukraine’s flag.

    This was covered-up, of course, except for some dissident websites:

    https://www.les-crises.fr/pas-de-bol-le-consul-dukraine-en-allemagne-etait-un-antisemite-pro-nazis/

    Just compare the vilification UK Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn gets for unsubstantiated claims of anti-semitism, while Ukro-Nazis are given a free rein to commit war crimes in the Donbass. It beggars belief, but this is the sad state of affairs in the EU, which is completely aligned to the US foreign policy agenda.

  150. yurivku says:

    of all those “supporters”, “patriots” and “experts” (many of whom are not experts at all, nor are real patriots) who every day, since the return of Crimea home, never relented on, in their opinion for a good reason, accusing Russia of being weak, cowardly, not tough enough, timid, not hitting back…

    Didn’t want to answer for it’s so many times repeated by different experts level of Andrei, Saker etc so everything seems to be already said. But I’ll put my 5 cents (kopeek).

    It’s easy from above, especially even from outside Russia judge who is proper patriot and who is not (горлопан). All such experts pretend to know much better what is goood or bad for us.
    Well, being abroad, even in the USA, gives probably some freedom of judgements, but certainly not add understanding of our situation and our feelings.

    When in 2014-15 each day hundreds of civilians, mosly childs and elderly people were killed it was difficult to us, Russians just blah-blah about world community and the risk of doing something. But Putin and Andrei have steel nerves, yes, mine are not so good.

    When US even on fake “chemical” cases can bombard independent country why we can’t just annihilate one or two UKi’s battery shelling peaceful city ?
    I think we must.
    But I do agree that full scale intervention is not needed and possible.

    Same with coward behaviour in Syria during “chemical” stories. I’m sure the more retreats the higher risk of full scale war. This should be stopped ASAP.

    You, Andrei, can call me “горлопан”, but it’s not true, I am a patriot and as well as you former soviet officer (but only called for 2 years (двухгодичник)), my father was stuffing officer. And I live here, when killing people in Donbass I feel it very personally. very. But you are not – not living not (seems) feeling.

  151. @Johnny Rico

    It is quite possible that Assad could have fought the war with opposing Syrians. It is also possible that there would be no war: the scenario with snipers in Deraa in 2011 was remarkably similar to the scenario with snipers in Sarajevo in 1995 and in Kiev in 2014. Similarities suggest the same script writer. Besides, the great majority of jihadi head-choppers in Syria are not Syrians. It takes an international coalition of good to fight an international coalition of evil.

    • Replies: @FB
  152. Similarities suggest the same script writer.

    So I guess it would be pointless to veer from the conspiracy-theory tone of this thread and UNZ in general.

    The vast majority of those who oppose Assad are not head-choppers. ISIS only came in to play after the protests and counter-moves by Assad spiraled into all-out civil war. They were not the initiators of the civil war.

    The Russians are not there because they support Assad. They are there to protect and maintain their only foothold outside the Black Sea past the Dardanelles.

    The situation in Syria regarding Russian military ability can be looked at from at least two distinctly different perspectives. One view is that it is indicative of strategic military weakness because of the above.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  153. @Johnny Rico

    So, do you have an alternative explanation for the similarities of those sniper scenarios? I, for one, would love to hear them. I am sure my curiosity is shared by many.

    Foreign Islamists in Syria are not only in ISIS, but in Al-Nusra (Syrian Al Qaida) and many other groups. PR branch of Nusra (White Helmets) is directly funded by several Western intelligence agencies. Some of them were rescued by Israel from the Southern pocket recently taken by the Syrian army, and will be resettled in the West (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/22/israel-evacuates-800-white-helmets-in-face-of-syria-advance). Birds of a feather.

    Russia is not the only foreign country helping Syrian government at its request: Iran was there long before Russia. Indeed, it is very likely that Russian troops are in Syria with much greater objective in mind than just saving Assad and preventing Syria from going the way of Libya, totally destroyed by Western interference. BTW, Europe is paying high price for its Libyan adventure: hundreds of thousands of Arabs and Africans, that used to work and get pretty good wages in Gaddafi’s Libya, are now pouring into Europe.

    Now, I don’t know who the “vast” numbers of those opposing Assad are. Do you mean that people who ate Syrian soldier’s heart on camera (https://www.cnn.com/2013/05/14/world/meast/syria-eaten-heart/index.html) or those who beheaded a boy in Syria on camera (https://www.timesofisrael.com/video-shows-palestinian-boy-beheaded-by-us-backed-syrian-rebels/) are not head-choppers or are any better than ISIS? Then I beg to differ: bandits are bandits are bandits.

  154. So, do you have an alternative explanation for the similarities of those sniper scenarios? I, for one, would love to hear them. I am sure my curiosity is shared by many.

    This thread is about grand strategy. I’d like to see a little more discussion along those lines. I tend to stay away from the distractions that will never make it into the history books.

    • Replies: @Iris
  155. Iris says:
    @Johnny Rico

    “This thread is about grand strategy.”

    Grand strategy? Like the grand strategy discussed by the late John McCain with Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi around a cup of tea?

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  156. @Iris

    Yawn. I’m happy you are easily amused, though. McCain was a nitwit.

  157. @Seraphim

    In my memory, after elections, where NSDAP gained majority The parliament (Reichstag ) voted for Fuhrer Hitler to be a Chancellor. Hitler still had to be confirmed by Kaiser.
    Kaiser was quite annoyed by that Czech corporal, but he gave Hitler his approval.
    First order of the coming new day was for SS to kill all democratic representatives including their families. And so they did.
    Hitler so did gain uncontested power.
    But than the time lapse when I did read this is more than sixty years, so accuracy maybe is questionable.
    I do not remember Goering to play any role.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  158. Seraphim says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Your memory failed you completely. Alas, that being a common occurrence after a certain age you should not rely on it when talking about controversial events of the past. That’s why there are archives, records, why people kept diaries, wrote memories.
    So, allow me to refresh your memory. There was no more any Kaiser at that time. Hitler was not Czech but Austrian German and had to renounce officially his Austrian citizenship in 1925 but was not granted German citizenship until 25 February 1932, so unable to run for any office. That fact weighted on his defeat in the Presidential elections of March 1932, when he run against the President Hindenburg. NSDAP did not gain a majority which would have make it able to form a government. Goering was elected President of the Reichstag in August 1932 and then appointed Minister President and Minister of the Interior of Prussia. The Reichstag was dissolved and new elections organized for the 5th of March. The electoral campaign was marred by violence on both sides and the President Hindenburg emitted the “Order of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State” (the so-called Reichstag Fire Decree), on the basis of Article 48 paragraph 2 of the Constitution of the German Reich, “in defense against Communist state-endangering acts of violence”. The decree did not suspend ‘indefinitely’ most of civil liberties, but ‘until further notice’. But no, it was not an order “for SS to kill all democratic representatives including their families. And so they did”. The SS of that time were not the ones throwing Jews in crematories. That’s Hollywood ‘history’. But yes, it was specifically directed at Communist agitations. The devil is in the details.

  159. I read it and so I do surrender.

  160. Ivan K. says: • Website

    The vast majority of those who oppose Assad are not head-choppers. ISIS only came in to play after the protests and counter-moves by Assad spiraled into all-out civil war. They were not the initiators of the civil war.

    As early as April 2011 I read the Ukrainian tour operator Anhar Kochneva who wrote how the world news about Syria have hardly anything in common with what she and her tourists see and hear while crossing that country.

    She wrote, “On 16 April there was a surge of news reports that in Damascus 50,000 protesters against the policies of President Assad were dispersed with tear gas, batons and rubber bullets. Have you ever been in Damascus? If yes, then you know: in this city 50,000 people fit NOWHERE.”

    When in early April I returned from Damascus to Moscow, I learned that just a few days earlier, there had been anti-government demonstrations in the Syrian capital. Strangely, for the week of my stay in Syria I saw only people who stick portraits of the president to car windows, and, in conversations, express support for his course.”

    At 29 March in the city of Hama we witnessed massive demonstrations that took place under the slogans of support for president Assad, and condemnation for those who are trying to drag the country into the abyss of civil war.”

    The fact that the tension in Syria is sown from outside is confirmed by a score of facts most of which haven’t been reported in the Russian or Western media. For example, the Lebanese authorities recently arrested smugglers of a shipment of arms to Syria. Another consignment of arms – of U.S. origin – was intercepted a few days later on the Iraqi-Syrian border. The truck driver testified that he had been promised around $20,000 for his job.”

    Israeli Russian-language newspapers in March reported that foreign tourists refuse to go to Syria. This is also untrue. For me, accompanied by a small group of tourists in late March, there was a lot of trouble to find spare rooms in the non-elite Syrian hotels, for lack of vacant space. During our travel we met many groups of foreigners across the country. The problem seems to be that somebody has an interest in spreading the notion that Syria is dangerous and “no one is going there.”

    Over the past few weeks the Syrian president signed a lot of progressive legislation, giving citizenship to those Kurds who did not have Syrian nationality (there have been such among them); arranging business courses for Kurdish women in the north; allowing foreigners to buy property; changing the number of governors and making changes in the government; significantly increasing the wages and benefits; and, above all, bringing forth the abolition of the state of emergency, something that many have called for.”

    A few days ago an online video appeared on which the Israeli-Arab MP and public activist Azmi Bishara is being offered good pay to express a negative outlook regarding the events in Syria in an interview to Al Jazeera. The transaction actually took place (http://youtu.be/oV-ay85hJiI ) bringing about a rather delicate point in this politician’s career…..

    Ms. Kochneva also wrote that the Russian Federation interest in Syria is tied with the around 30.000 Russian citizens living as civilian expats in Syria.

    Whether that will “make it into the history books,” or would it be the version you described, … or both – none of us has a crystal ball, and: what’s written in books isn’t equivalent with truth. I composed this comment not to persuade people with different beliefs (that would be fool’s errand), but because I enjoyed reviewing the information that I collected and translated at the start of the Syrian war. Thanks for prompting me to do this. Others might like it.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @RobinG
  161. @animalogic

    Successor? I’m sure Putin is planning that carefully too. And, BTW, it’s not a one-man band; he has a team.

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  162. Iris says:
    @Ivan K.

    A few days ago an online video appeared on which the Israeli-Arab MP and public activist Azmi Bishara is being offered good pay to express a negative outlook regarding the events in Syria in an interview to Al Jazeera. (http://youtu.be/oV-ay85hJiI ) “

    This video is edifying. Wrongly believing that they are off the record, the Al Jazeera journalist asks the Israeli-Arab MP to express negative views on Syria, but to mention neither Jordan nor Bahrein. They are just plainly demonstrating how the words of commissioned liars are used to beat the drums of aggression wars.

  163. RobinG says:
    @Ivan K.

    Thank you for all of this. It adds some interesting details, and confirms what has been available in other eye-witness testimony.

  164. @Andrei Martyanov

    Israelis know that in the end it is Russia, not the US who will guarantee Israel’s existence.

    Can you explain this? Also, what are the key differences between Russian Jews and American Jews in their political mindset? I recall you said that Russian culture changed Jews, whereas Jews changed Anglo culture. I’m aware this is a necessarily complex matter, but that doesn’t prevent you from giving a generic answer that for the most part reflects reality.

    Oh, Iosif Kobzon, RIP.

    American Jews give me an impression of America is just too good and we need to do everything we can to spread American freedom and democracy on this planet. Of course, it’s in reverse an obvious cover for “the Anglo world, so rich in resources, is so easy to control and manipulate and now that we’ve done so, we should take full advantage of it to perpetuate Jewish power and privilege on this planet.”

    Do you think Israel will survive in the long run? A Chinese physicist in China doesn’t. Thinks that once China starts trading with RMB instead of the dollar, that will trigger in America, which Israel depends on, an economic depression.

    As far as I know, there are many Russian speaking Jews in Israel from the Soviet Union with ties to Russian/Soviet culture. I remember reading somewhere that Russia can be somewhat friendly with Israel now for this reason.

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  165. @gmachine1729

    Can you explain this? Also, what are the key differences between Russian Jews and American Jews in their political mindset?

    Russian/Soviet Jews actually saw Holocaust both Jewish and Slavic and many of them served Russia and died for her. Many of them also know that it is Russia, not US, who controls fates of Israel. Long story, I may at some point of time deal with it. Just to give you a hint–try to impress any Russian with Holocaust. Guess what–all my and my wife’s biological grandfathers were killed at the fronts of Great Patriotic War. We are TYPICAL. American Jews, however, are in for a Chutzpah. As I stated for years–the US is a perfect country to take for a free ride and build up Holocaust industry and exploit it. Reason? US “elites” with some minor exceptions have no clue what real warfare is. That’s the metaphysical difference.

  166. @Sergey Krieger

    Albeit, only Lenin Stalin duo was capable of finally resolving this conundrum and considering advanced stages of decease pain was unavoidable.

    Лениным основана,
    Сталиным упрочена,
    Правдой народной крепка и сильна,
    Славься, великая,
    Славься, могучая,
    Славься, Советская наша страна!

    Из https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsf4gk9b3qY

    Sergey Krieger, I’m very curious, what field are you in? And yes, you come across as a dedicated, loyal Soviet conservative. How rare is your type among Russians now? Most Russians I encounter in the US tend to be very liberal/right wing. (Yes, only in America’s bastardized politics is liberal considered left wing.) Comes to mind this guy I know of who made it in big tech companies in Silicon Valley, owning real estate in Hawaii so I hear, who’s obsessed with promoting importance of wealth inequality to incentivize and reward the more competent and productive.

    What Stalin did was objectively revolutionary, he brought into fruition the planned economy which turned the Soviet Union from a backwards agrarian country to an industrial and military superpower very rapidly, largely independently from the West. He was so feared and despised in West for that very reason. Lenin led the founding the Soviet state and the Comintern based on his political and economic theories. Like it not, one can’t deny that the international influence of the whole movement was quite far-reaching, as many important revolutionaries and political doers received substantial training and support from the Soviet Union/Comintern. Sure, you can disagree with the ideology and way of doing things on political grounds, but in terms of actual political effectiveness and impact, it was indisputably immense.

    I also have rather low opinion of Khrushchev. His denunciation of Stalin irreversibly damaged Soviet prestige. He was obviously doing it for his own selfish reasons, to garner political support from the half-closeted anti-Stalin faction within the party, so that his relatively weak political power could be further consolidated. The Chinese communists were quite contemptuous of him, denouncing his politics as “revisionist.” It was difficult for Mao to truly respect him, unlike with Stalin, his position as leader of by far the most powerful socialist country in the world then notwithstanding.

    Fool in power is far more dangerous then any external enemy. Now the question how to create the system to prevent undeserving and incapable people getting up there . Here comes the question of national elites and I do not mean those so called elites but actual line of taking people from school and running them up selecting the best both in professional, various abilities and moral qualities to serve the country and people.

    Yes, and this is quite an unsolved social/political problem. Speaking of which, American system very much selects for fools in power, but America is so advantaged in resources and politically well-connected (much via the legacy of the British Empire) that it’s very hard for idiots in power to actually seriously ruin the country’s position. Still, they seem to be doing so. As for “moral qualities,” that can be very hard to select for. Do you know that many people in China are very dissatisfied with the relatively liberal faction that came to power after Mao died, with much of how they carried out the economic reforms? They will go as far as to say that those people turned China into a semi-colony again, promoting low wage low end manufacturing for Western countries and capital which has done tremendous environmental damage and really, not actually improved the country’s strategic position much. Sure, they didn’t privatize and dismantle the system into the own hands as grossly and disastrously as the Soviet elites did, and at the end, they prevented the attempted coup in 1989 from succeeding, but one could also well argue that their letting that movement reach the point where they had to suppress by force was a sign of political incompetence and misdirection. Yes, it served as a catalyst for similar and this time successful protests and movements that eventually wrecked the Eastern Bloc, not to mention it gave the West a good way to media smear the regime and deny it benefits. Many believe that Mao saw the danger and started the Cultural Revolution to scare, reeducate, and get rid of those guys, but in the end, he was only successful to the point of preventing them from ruining China as the Soviet elites in the likes of Gorbachev and Yeltsin had ruined the Soviet Union. There was a Chinese communist slogan 又红又专 (red and expert). With it in mind, I’ll say that I’ve observed many technically competent but with deeply misguided and unrealistic political inclinations of the liberal nature, and those people can be extremely damaging, especially when they know how to channel their way up to political power. They tend to be Western ass kickers without spines, and many such types did immigrate once they were able to.

    I do feel that political inclinations, especially among the higher IQ, have a strong heritable component, though surely, education and cultural pressures can make some difference. Like, I myself naturally exposed myself to quality left wing political material, much of which in Chinese, despite having done almost all my schooling in America, as I found the American narrative and system exceedingly suspicious. Here is where media makes a substantial difference. You see, English language is so scant in quality left wing cultural, historical, and political content, not to mention how the American system is structured, that people raised in it don’t see anything else. Unless they are unusually independent minded, truth seeking, non conformist, and intelligent enough to learn a more left-wing dominated language like Russian or Chinese where they can better see that other side of the world. I applaud Ron Unz to creating this wonderful outlet for I believe mostly non-Americans to spread the other gospel in the English language, but I’m afraid to say that we are easily weaker in the English battlefield than are those anti-communist liberals with Hong Kong and Taiwan as bases in the Chinese battlefield. I don’t know how much power the liberal media has in Russian, you tell me, I would expect it to be stronger than the Chinese one. Yes, I think that in terms of redness, Chinese are well higher than Russians are.

    A guy from Ukraine once said “liberalism is a genetic disorder.” Yes, I much agree. Maybe only killing and sterilization can prevent the disease from spreading. Some people in this regard are simply genetically deficient beyond hope, and among Chinese, their immigration to America or their ancestors’ having escaped to Hong Kong/Taiwan is surely a signal, collectively speaking (taking into account the importance of sample size for statistical significance). Yes, colonialism did make a major difference, one that would only be much strengthened by consequent political selection, in terms of the types of people those places would attract. After all, birds of a feather flock together on the political spectrum too.

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  167. Iris says:
    @gmachine1729

    Thanks for posting this much interesting comment.

  168. Well, Paul Craig Roberts is at it again, saying this strategy won’t work.

    Here’s his latest, the link and excerpt. And he addresses Andrei. He read this on Russian Insider.

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/08/31/can-war-be-avoided-and-the-planet-saved/

    [MORE]

    Can War Be Avoided and the Planet Saved?

    Paul Craig Roberts

    The Russian Government and President Putin are coming under pressure not from US sanctions, which are very good for Russia as they force Russia into independence, but from Russian patriots who are tiring of Putin’s non-confrontational responses to Washington’s never-ending insults and military provocations. Russian patriots don’t want war, but they do want their country’s honor defended, and they believe Putin is failing in this job. Some of them are saying that Putin himself is a West-worshipping Atlanticist Integrationist.

    This disillusinonment with Putin, together with Putin’s endorsement of raising the retirement age for pensions, a trap set for him by Russia’s neoliberal economists, have hurt Putin’s approval ratings at the precise time that he will again be tested by Washington in Syria.

    In many columns I have defended Putin from the charge that he is not sufficiently Russian. Putin wants to avoid war, because he knows it would be nuclear, the consequences of which would be dire. He knows that the US and its militarily impotent NATO allies cannot possibly conduct conventional warfare against Russia or China, much less against both. Putin also undersrtands that the sanctions are damaging Washington’s European vassals and could eventually force the European vassal states into independence that would constrain Washington’s belligerence. Even with Russia’s new super weapons, which probably give Putin the capability of destroying the entirety of the Western World with little or no damage to Russia, Putin sees no point in so much destruction, especially as the consequences are unknown. There could be nuclear winter or other results that would put the planet into decline as a life-sustaining entity.

    So, as I have suggested in many columns Putin is acting intelligently. He is in the game for the long term while protecting the world from dangerous war.

    Whereas I endorse Putin’s strategy and admire his coolness as a person who never lets emotion lead him, there is nevertheless a problem. The people in the West with whom he is dealing are idiots who do not appreciate his statesmanship. Consequently, each time Putin turns the other cheek, so to speak, the insults and the provocations ratchet upward.

    Consider Syria. The Syrian Army with the help of a tiny part of the Russian Air Force has cleared all areas of Syria but one of the American-instigated-financed-and-equiped forces sent by Washington to overthrow the Syrian government.

    The remaining US proxy force is about to be eliminated. In order to save it, and to keep a Washington foothold that could permit a restart of the war, Washington has arranged yet another false flag “chemical attack” that the presstitute and obiedient Western media will blame on Assad. President Trump’s National Security Adviser, a crazed, perhaps insane, Neoconservative, has told Russia that Washington will take a dim view of the Syrian/Russian use of chemical weapons against “Assad’s own people.”

    The Russians are fully aware that any chemical attack will be a false flag attack orchestrated by Washington using the elements it sent to Syria to overthrow the government. Indeed, Russia’s ambassador to the US explained it all yesterday to the US government.

    Clearly, Putin hopes to avoid Washington’s orchestrated attack by having his ambassador explain the orchestration to the American officials who are orchestrating it. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-30/russian-ambassador-gave-intel-us-officials-showing-planned-chemical-provocation

    This strategy implies that Putin thinks US government officials are capable of shame and integrity. They most certainly are not. I spent 25 years with them. They don’t even know what the words mean.

    What if, instead, Putin had declared publicly for the entire world to hear that any forces, wherever located, responsible for an attack on Syria would be annihiliated? My view -— https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/08/29/a-book-for-our-time-a-time-that-perhaps-has-run-its-course/ — and that of Russian patriot Bogdasarov— https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/08/a-russian-response-to-a-new-us-attack-on-syria-should-include-sinking-the-carriers-not-just-shooting-at-their-missiles/ — is that such an ultimatum from the leader of the country capable of delivering it would cool the jets of Russophobic Washington. There would be no attack on Syria.

    Bogdasarov and I might be wrong. The Russian forces deployed around Syria with their hypersonic missiles are more than a match for the US forces assembled to attack Syria. However, American hubris can certainly prevail over facts, in which case Putin would have to destroy the sources of the attack. By not committing in advance, Putin retains flexibility. Washington’s attack, like its previous attack on Syria, might be a face-saver, not a real attack. Nevertheless, sooner or later Russia will have to deliver a firmer response to provocations.

    I am an American. I am not a Russian, much less a Russian nationalist. I do not want US military personnel to be casualties of Washington’s fatal desire for world hegemony, much less to be casualties of Washington serving Israel’s interests in the Middle East. The reason I think Putin needs to do a better job of standing up to Washington is that I think, based on history, that appeasement encourages more provocations, and it comes to a point when you have to surrender or fight. It is much better to stop this process in its tracks before it reaches that dangerous point.

    Andrei Martyanov, whose book I recently reviewed on my website, recently defended Putin, as The Saker and I have done in the past, from claims that Putin is too passive in the face of assaults. https://russia-insider.com/en/russia-playing-long-game-no-room-instant-gratification-strategies-super-patriots/ri24561 As I have made the same points, I can only applaud Martyanov and The Saker. Where we might differ is in recognizing that endlessly accepting insults and provocations encourages their increase until the only alternative is surrender or war.

    So, the questions for Andrei Martyanov, The Saker, and for Putin and the Russian government is: How long does turning your other cheek work? Do you turn your other cheek so long as to allow your opponent to neutralize your advantage in a confrontation? Do you turn your other cheek so long that you lose the support of the patriotic population for your failure to defend the country’s honor? Do you turn your other cheek so long that you are eventually forced into war or submission? Do you turn your other cheek so long that the result is nuclear war?

    I think that Martyanov and The Saker agree that my question is a valid one. Both emphazise in their highly informative writings that the court historians misrepresent wars in the interest of victors. Let’s give this a moment’s thought. Both Napoleon and Hitler stood at their apogee, their success unmitigated by any military defeat. Then they marched into Russia and were utterly destroyed. Why did they do this? They did it because their success had given them massive arogance and belief in their “exceptionalism,” the dangerous word that encapsulates Washington’s belief in its hegemony.

    The zionist neoconsevatives who rule in Washington are capable of the same mistake that Napoleon and Hitler made. They believe in “the end of history,” that the Soviet collapse means history has chosen America as the model for the future. Their hubris actually exceeds that of Napoleon and Hitler.

    When confronted with such deluded and ideological force, does turning the other cheek work or does it encourage more provocation?

    This is the question before the Russian government.

    Any thoughts from readers?

    Will death by a thousand cuts prevent long-term strategy from coming to fruition?

    I think the Neocon Nazis will start shooting soon and Russia won’t be able to avoid shooting back but I’ve no military experience and maybe “rolling with the punches” is a good strategy.

    However, I’ve read about Saker’s “assymentric” response, e.g using Pantsirs and plausible deniability but Meh. I think Washington will push too hard. And I realize as Shamir wrote who rules Washington and London and came up with this plan.

    • Replies: @gT
  169. Iris says:

    How long does turning your other cheek work? Do you turn your other cheek so long as to allow your opponent to neutralize your advantage in a confrontation?”

    With all due respect to PCR, who is a brilliant intellectual, I can’ t see in which way V. Putin has turned the other cheek. His patient and opiniated strategy in Syria has resulted in a number of outstanding outcomes:

    - an unprecedented defeat of the Israel/US alliance in a strategic confrontation (war on Syria)
    - the Syrian Arab Army becoming the most battle-hardened army in the region (while the IDF was not even able to face the lesser Hezbollah defence militias)
    - the succesful field training of a military coalition of several countries opposing the Zio/US alliance, a thing that had never happened before.
    - the Zio/US alliance losing key stooges in the process (Turkey and Qatar), with the stooges now firmly anchored to the “enemy” due to increasing economic interdependence.
    - China getting openly involved in the reconstruction of Syria and hence becoming a party to count on in the future of the region.

    The Syrian/Russian victory goes far beyond just crushing the wahabi extremists: it has profoundly and permanently changed the power equation in the region, and this would not have happened without time and patience. President Putin was not turning the other cheek, he was playing the long game, and he won.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @geokat62
  170. RobinG says:
    @Iris

    TY :)

    This is “UKRAINE ON FIRE” Weekend

    IDK if this is a bootleg youtube, but here it is, and timely [following assassination of Alexander Zakharchenko]. Now revealed also, the Ukrainian connection to Prop or Not, the Ukrainian collusion with DNC against Trump, the Ukrainians asked by Orbis to make up dirt for the Steele dossier. (See Lee Stranahan investigation of Russiagate.)

    UKRAINE ON FIRE The Real Story Full Documentary by Oliver Stone Original English version

    • Replies: @Iris
  171. geokat62 says:
    @Iris

    President Putin was not turning the other cheek, he was playing the long game, and he won.

    Hi, Iris. While I’m in general agreement with your assessment that Putin is playing the long game and not turning the other cheek, if a long game is, indeed, being played, wouldn’t you agree that it’s premature to declare any side the winner, just yet?

    See, for example, Saker’s latest article, Is the next US aggression on Syria already scheduled?

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Iris
  172. A period of 20 year peace, for economic & technological growth, to empower a nation is ALWAYS nice.

    Bettter for the whole globe: 40 -60 …1000 total peace years of prosperity. We will discover space.

    Individual initiatiave, private property and growing private equity by financial stimuli is a prerequisite.

    Regulated by Law (= crimefree, fair, competitive), open entry markets, free pricing and entreprenureship, is what makes any nation strong.

    Not monopoly capitalism of Wallstreet on government + FED welfare.

  173. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    Video: Russian Navy to Hold Large Drills Near Syria

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-russian-navy-to-hold-large-drills-near-syria/5652594

    …while the ISIS-held pocket of Hajin on the eastern bank of the Euphrates is not cleared, these attacks can hardly be stopped any time soon. The key question is, why are the US-led coalition and the SDF not hurrying up to deal with ISIS terrorists there?

  174. Iris says:
    @geokat62

    Hi Geokat;
    You are very right: I don’t think that the Anglo-Zionist alliance, and the Israeli part in particular, will give up on their war on Syria.

    But the major battle that lasted since 2011 was mainly based on utilising the proxy Wahabbi terrorists: this battle is now irretrievably lost.

    The war on Syria was very different from the war on Afghanistan.The Wahabbi brigades were made of (1) Syrian extremists, a minority within the Syrian people (2) foreign fighters incentivised with Gulf money, and finally (3) foreign Muslim radicals deluded by anti-Assad propaganda. All three group were emboldened by the destruction of Libya, and sometimes even moved from Libya to Syria to continue their terrorist activities.

    These extremist groups have been crushed, Qatari funding removed, the reality of their criminal deeds exposed and their image damaged worldwide. How can the Zio-Anglo puppet masters reconstitute their terrorist legions, while what awaits the candidates is a certain death and public opprobrium? That won’t happen until the next generation of Wahabbi simpletons and mercenaries comes of age.

    So, yes, I believe that President Putin has won the battle of Syria, as planned long before 2011. (The use of Sunni Wahabbi mercenary legions is a very ancient and important strategy: it is known that former President Mubarak was deposed, not because of the fake “Arab Spring”, but due to his refusal to train these Wahabbi brigades on Egyptian soil).

    In summary, the Anglo-Zionists have lost their main strategic military instrument in Syria; they also lost the ability to further use these Wahabbi brigades against Iran. So yes, Putin won this battle, and much more, but this will unfortunately not be the end of it.

    I think that what awaits is more direct and more dangerous confrontations, of a different shape and form. Zionists are demented psychopaths who fight their battles with the lives of others, and hence will never stop.

    • Agree: geokat62
  175. Iris says:
    @RobinG

    Thank you Robin, I heard of this documentary and wanted to watch it.

    There have been hundreds of thousands attending Aleksandr Zakharchenko’ s funeral today, God bless his soul. Even the pathetic EU MSM could not hide the massive popular grief and support.

    https://www.france24.com/fr/20180902-ukraine-donetsk-rend-hommage-a-son-president-assassine

    • Replies: @RobinG
  176. RobinG says:
    @Iris

    Newsflash:

    Today Andrei Nekrasov’s film, “Magnitsky Act, Behind the Scenes” was removed from Vimeo. What’s clear from all this censorship [FLAK], we’re over the target.

  177. FB says:
    @Ivan K.

    Thnks for that link to this article…

    The powerlessness of the Russian state – Nebojša Katić”

    This is a fairly solid article [with some factual errors] that points out, correctly in my view, that Russia, unlike China, is indeed pursuing what looks like a neoliberal economic model…

    I agree with this premise fully…however you are confusing things with regard to the Martyanov article under discussion here…since it is NOT about economics but about geopolitics…

    Russian geopolitics and diplomacy in the last few years has been absolutely superb…the country has stopped the US hegemonic project in the Middle East dead in its tracks in Syria…that is a huge defeat for the US and the entire neocon cabal…which of course is the reason for the Russia hate that they are spewing so rabidly…they have been hurt and hurt badly…and all they can do is foam at the mouth and shake their puny fist in the air…while realizing full well that their own people in uniform will never actually use that fist to strike and opponent that can cut their hand off…

    Now back to the neoliberal Russian economic policy, since you brought it up…

    ‘…Russia today is effectively in a state of war. It would be expected that all economic forces of the state would mobilize, that investment activity would be intensified and directed towards technological development and the restructuring of the stagnant economy.

    Russia has enormous resources, it is independent in energetics [sic] and raw material, has talented and educated people, has a large domestic market and should be immune to sanctions…’

    Yes this is absolutely true…and the next paragraph is even truer…

    Instead of investing in Russia and the Russian economy, tycoons help the luxury industry in the West… While Russia’s languishes, Russian tycoons buy sports clubs, buy the most expensive apartments and houses in the Western world and be angry over who will have a bigger and more luxurious yacht…

    China shows that a state policy can be different…China has introduced drastic restrictions on Chinese investment abroad. Companies are thus forbidden to invest in sports clubs, real estate, entertainment industry, and all investments that can jeopardize national interests and security are forbidden. Investments in foreign companies are permitted only if they are encouraged by the real economy, or in the case of the purchase of technology firms…’

    One has to ask why this ruinous neoliberal course is allowed to continue…and here is the final nail in the coffin…

    ‘…The Central Bank strictly ensures that it does not accidentally affirm the ruble. It is insisting on the maintenance of the dollarized financial system, in order to make the Western sanctions even more powerful.

    And, in order to maintain such a dollarized system, interest should [must] be high. Hence, although in a multi-year recession, Russia holds interest rates at a high level, doing the opposite of what economic theory and practice requires. It is no coincidence that western analysts are thrilled with the monetary policy of the Russian Central Bank and Governor Elvira Nabulina…’

    Nothing could be more true, or more sad…

    This has been my main frustration with VVP for at least a decade now…not to mention much more astute observers like PCR…

    However…pointing out the painful truth, and asking why this is so are two different questions…

    Is there in fact some halfway legitimate reason that Russia doesn’t make a clean break with the dollar [and the entire dollar-denominated financial universe]…sweep the neoliberal Augean Stables clean and seize firm control of the central bank…?

    In order to seriously think about this question, we must take into account the question of risk…just as an example…India is in the news recently over the US pressure regarding the purchase of S400 air defense systems…let us remind here that India has been and continues to be Russia’s biggest arms buyer…and is in fact responsible in no small part that Russia even has a military industrial capability today…after its near collapse during the Yeltsin years…

    But here is the funny part…India pays for Russian weapons in US dollars…as do all the other states that purchase Russian arms…it is the same with Russian energy exports…and the same with Russia’s world leading nuclear power exports [a hugely important and very big industry]…and countless other key industries…

    So one has to ask…how is it even possible for Russia to simply now walk out of the dollar universe which runs the entire global marketplace…?…even China is not able to do that…[a detail this author neglects to mention in his haste]

    It seems clear even to the layman, that in order for Russia and even China to make a clean break from the dollar system…an alternative financial universe needs to be in place already to soften the inevitable shocks that will arise…

    This project of building such an alternative financial universe is something that is under way…but Rome cannot be built in a day…

    And here is where geopolitics and diplomacy ties into this whole question…A number of years ago…the globalist mouthpiece Thomas Friedman wrote his neo-imperialist screed in the New York Times Magazine…

    ‘A Manifesto for the Fast World’

    ‘…The hidden hand of the market will never work without a hidden fist — McDonald’s cannot flourish without McDonnell Douglas, the builder of the F-15.

    And the hidden fist that keeps the world safe for Silicon Valley’s technologies is called the United States Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps.

    ”Good ideas and technologies need a strong power that promotes those ideas by example and protects those ideas by winning on the battlefield,” says the foreign policy historian Robert Kagan…’

    Besides the chuckle of presenting neocon mini-emperor Kagan as some kind of ‘historian’…we do see a truism here…if not the one intended by delusional nitwit Friedman…economic power only works if it is backed by military power…

    That ‘Manifesto’ was written in March 1999, just as 1,000 plus Nato warplanes were pounding little Serbia [illegally] into what Friedman surely thought would be an easy victory…although this little war ended in a stalemate both militarily and politically…

    No matter…the empire had Much Bigger Plans…specifically in the Middle East…the crushing of Iraq, Afghansitan, Libya, Syria and ultimately Iran…to cement the new 1,000 Year Reich once and for all…

    And how is that working out…?

    That’s a rhetorical question…today we have visibly more subdued neocon remnants like Bolton and Pompeo waving their puny little fist at Russia over Idlib…even as their own military men have not the slightest inkling to actually back that up those silly threats…

    That’s how comical the Friedman vision looks two decades hence…

    So it is useful to step back and take a look at the longer sweep of history, rather than just some snippets frozen in time…

    We see that the fundamental failure of grandiose clowns like Friedman and the would-be world-conquering neocons is that of character…[or lack thereof]

    ‘…Pride goeth before destruction…and a haughty spirit before a fall…

    Viewed through this prism…the slow and even plodding advance of the Russia-China axis to reshape the world order can be objectively seen to be working…what will the world order look like in another 20 years…?

    The BRICS economies already outpace the G7…the Grand Imperialist Middle East Project is now toast…Turkey is gone for good…even Europe is talking about a long-forgotten independence and is actively looking at ‘parallel financial structures’ to bypass the US dollar universe…

    Friedman’s 1999 musings today look positively laughable…let’s check back in 20 years…before we start writing off the Russian strategy…

  178. FB says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Are you actually replying to ‘johnny freako’…?

    And who’s fighting the Syrian Jihadists’ wars…?

    I guess they’ve been all by their lonesome all these years in Syria…LOL…?

  179. gT says:
    @PCR Reader

    All I can think of is to refer to the book Shogun by James Clavell again.

    In the book the 2 opponents, the one army wearing brown kimono’s and the other army wearing grey kimono’s were always on the verge of all out conflict. The grey’s were stronger and unethical, the browns were seemingly weaker but ethical.

    The browns tactics were just to stomach the insults offered by the greys while in the background maneuvering to weaken the grey’s alliances while strengthening their own. After yonks of maneuvering the browns eventually met the greys on the battlefield and slaughtered them. Its like the browns only committed to battle when they were certain of victory after the grey’s had been irreparably weakened.

    The key to victory was the brown samurai’s discipline in obeying orders in the face of appalling provocations. The grey’s couldn’t attack first because that would have cost them allies, the greys desperately needed the browns to attack and so staged provocation after provocation. The browns just bided their time while maneuvering behind the scenes until the time was right.

    But PCR is correct, even when the time is right, Putin won’t attack. Its like 2 chiefs are needed in Russia, a war chief and a peace chief, just like that one American Indian tribe. The war chief will commit crimes against humanity to ensure the survival of his tribe, but such actions are taboo in times of peace. The peace chief on the other hand is wonderful in times of peace but is not psychotic enough to do what is necessary in times of war.

    Personally I prefer peace, but recognize that the history of humanity thus far is the history of war. Should war break out I would hope that Putin sends kamikaze Spetsnaz units out with portable nukes to target the 1% families who might be wanting to benefit from such conflict. The Chechens would gladly volunteer to serve in such units.

  180. Vojkan says:
    @Erebus

    Belarus means White Rus. Byelorussians are Russians. Putin has Jewish sons in law. Crimea and intervention in Syria have been forced on him by the military who realised they had the means and the imperative to do something about it. I have to admit that I have very much doubt he has the guts of his military. He has discredited himself with regards to Israel. The Russian military don’t want to assume civilian rule. It would mean dictatorship and as rational actors, they don’t want it. But they have thresholds. As too much humiliation. Putin would be wise to not cross them.

    • LOL: FB
  181. Adrian E. says:
    @rkka

    If the actual contents of the UN security council resolution had been followed, it would have slowed down Libya’s victory against the Jihadist armed groups, but it would hardly have had a big effect.

    The Russian (and German) position was that there may not be a sufficiently strong case for international involvement, but that the resolution – if it is followed – would not cause much harm, either. As there was a lot of media nonsense about an impending genocide (soon after the war had started, human rights organizations admitted that this was baseless), it might have seemed easier to let a security council resolution that claimed to protect the civilian population and did not allow for a regime change war pass, but to warn against going further by abstaining.

    Russia could have vetoed the resolution, but would it have changed anything? I doubt it. The countries that afterwards attacked Libya in a way that was not covered, at all, by the UN security council resolution would almost certainly also have attacked without any UN security council resolution, as they did in the case of Yugoslavia (or Iraq).

    If Russia had been serious about preventing that regime change war, it would have had to offer Libya military assistance, and that would have had to start earlier. At the moment of the vote at the UN it was too late, anyway.

  182. eyeslevel says:

    Here’s the current standard model: 1. There’s no such thing as race but whites are uniquely evil for doing things every race has done 2. Everything bad is whitey’s fault 3. Everything good was accomplished by “humanity” 4. Borders are bad but only around white countries 5. Whites are expected to care about every race but their own 6. Non-whites are not expected to give a damn about white people. 7. Whites have privilege until you talk about whites having basic human rights like homelands and self-determination, then it’s “Duh, what’s a white person? Duh, what’s a white country?” 8. Anti-whites openly brag about turning white countries non-white then when you call that what it is, white genocide, anti-whites develop instant Alzheimer’s. “What are you talking about? There’s no plan to get rid of white people!”

  183. @jilles dykstra

    You have hit the nail squarely on the head there !

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