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Paris, France, 9 January 2019

French Democracy Dead or Alive? Or perhaps one should say, buried or revived? Because for the mass of ordinary people, far from the political, financial, media centers of power in Paris, democracy is already moribund, and their movement is an effort to save it. Ever since Margaret Thatcher decreed that “there is no alternative”, Western economic policy is made by technocrats for the benefit of financial markets, claiming that such benefits will trickle down to the populace. The trickle has largely dried up, and people are tired of having their needs and wishes totally ignored by an elite who “know best”.

President Emmanuel Macron’s New Year’s Eve address to the nation made it perfectly clear that after one unconvincing stab at throwing a few crumbs to the Gilets Jaunes (Yellow Vests) protest movement, he has determined to get tough

France is entering a period of turmoil. The situation is very complex, but here are a few points to help grasp what this is all about.

  • The METHODS

The Yellow Vests gather in conspicuous places where they can be seen: the Champs-Elysées in Paris, main squares in other cities towns, and the numerous traffic circles on the edge of small towns. Unlike traditional demonstrations, the Paris marches were very loose and spontaneous, people just walking around and talking to each other, with no leaders and no speeches.

The absence of leaders is inherent in the movement. All politicians, even friendly ones, are mistrusted and no one is looking for a new leader.

People are organizing their own meetings to develop their lists of grievances and demands.

In the village of Commercy, Lorraine, a half hour drive from Domrémy where Jeanne d’Arc was born, inhabitants gather to read their proclamation. Six of them read in turns, a paragraph each, making it quite clear that they want no leaders, no special spokesperson. They sometimes stumble over a word, they are not used to speaking in public like the TV talking heads. Their “Second appeal of the Gilets Jaunes de Commercy invites others to come to Commercy on January 26-27 for an “assembly of assemblies”.

  • The DEMANDS

The people who first went out in the streets wearing Yellow Vests last November 17 were ostensibly protesting against a hike in gasoline and diesel taxes that would hit people in rural France the hardest. Obsessed with favoring “world cities”, the French government has taken one measure after another at the expense of small towns and villages and the people who live there. That was just the last straw. The movement rapidly moved on to the basic issue: the right of the people to have a say in measures taken that affect their lives. Democracy, in a word.

For decades, parties of the left and of the right, whatever their campaign speeches, once in office pursue policies dictated by “the markets”. For this reason, people have lost confidence in all parties and all politicians and are demanding new ways to get their wishes heard.

The fuel tax was soon forgotten as the list of demands grew longer. Critics of the movement note that achieving so many demands is quite impossible. It’s no use paying attention to popular demands, because the silly people ask for everything and its opposite.

That objection is answered by what has quickly emerged as the single overriding demand of the movement: the Citizens’ Initiative Referendum (CIR).

  • The REFERENDUM

This demand illustrates the good sense of the movement. Rather than making a “must” list, the GJ merely ask that the people be allowed to choose, and the referendum is the way to choose. The demand is for a certain number of signatories – perhaps 700,000, perhaps more – to gain the right to call a referendum on an issue of their choice. The right to a CIR exists in Switzerland, Italy and California. The idea horrifies all those whose profession it is to know best. If the people vote, they will vote for all sorts of absurd things, the better-knowers observe with a shudder.

A modest teacher in a junior college in Marseilles, Etienne Chouard, has been developing for decades ideas on how to organize direct democracy, with the referendum at its center. His hour has come with the Yellow Vests. He insists that a referendum must always be held after a long debate and time for reflection, to avoid emotional spur-of-the-moment decisions. Such a referendum requires honest, independent media which are not all owned by special interests. It requires making sure that politicians who make the laws follow the popular will expressed in the referendum. All this suggests the need for a people’s constitutional convention.

The referendum is a bitter point in France, a powerful silent underlying cause of the whole Gilets Jaunes movement. In 2005, President Chirac (unwisely from his point of view) called for a popular referendum on ratification of the proposed Constitution of the European Union, certain it would be approved. The political class, with a few exceptions, went into full rhetoric, claiming a prosperous future as a new world power under the new Constitution and warning that otherwise Europe might be plunged back into World Wars I and II. However, ordinary citizens organized an extraordinary movement of popular self-education, as groups met to pour through the daunting legalistic documents, elucidating what they meant and what they implied. On May 29, 2005, with a turnout of 68%, the French voted 55% to reject the Constitution. Only Paris voted heavily in favor.

Three years later, the National Assembly – that is, politicians off all parties – voted to adopt virtually the same text, which in 2009 became the Treaty of Lisbon.

That blow to the clearly expressed popular will produced such disillusion that many backed helplessly away from politics. Now they are coming back.

  • The VIOLENCE

From the start, the government has reacted with violence, in an apparent desire to provoke responding violence in order to condemn the movement as violent.

An army of police, dressed like robots, have surrounded and blocked groups of peaceful Yellow Vests, drowning them in clouds of teargas and firing flash balls directly at protesters, seriously wounding hundreds (no official figures). A number of people have lost an eye or a hand. The government has nothing to say about this.

On the third Saturday of protest, this army of police was unable to stop – or under orders to allow – a large number of hoodlums or Black Blocs (who knows?) to infiltrate the movement and smash property, vandalize shops, set fire to trash cans and parked cars, providing the world media with images proving that the Yellow Vests are dangerously violent.

Despite all this provocation, the Gilets Jaunes have remained remarkably calm and determined. But there are bound to be a few people who lose their tempers and try to fight back.

  • The BOXER

On the 8th Saturday, January 5, a squad of plexiglass-protected police were violently attacking Gilets Jaunes on a bridge over the Seine when a big guy lost his temper, emerged from the crowd and went on the attack. With his fists, he beat down one policeman and caused the others to retreat. This amazing scene was filmed. You could see Yellow Vests trying to hold him back, but Rambo was unstoppable.

It turned out that this was Christophe Dettinger, a French Rom, former light heavyweight boxing champion of France. His nickname is “the Gypsy of Massy”. He got away from the scene, but made a video before turning himself in. “I reacted badly”, he said, when he saw police attacking women and other defenseless people. He urged the movement to go ahead peacefully.

Dettinger faces seven years in prison. Within a day, his defense fund had gathered 116,433 euros. The government shut it down – on what legal pretext I don’t know. Now a petition circulates on his behalf.

  • The SLANDER

In his New Year’s Eve address, Macron patronizingly scolded his people telling them that “you can’t work less and earn more” – as if they all aspired to spending their lives lounging on a yacht and watching stock prices rise and fall.

Then he issued his declaration of war:

“These days I have seen unthinkable things and heard the unacceptable.” Apparently alluding to the few opposition politicians who dare sympathize with the protesters, he chastised those who pretend to “speak for the people”, but are only the “spokesmen for a hateful mob going after elected representatives, police, journalists, Jews, foreigners and homosexuals. It is simply the negation of France.”

The Gilets Jaunes haven’t been “going after” anybody. The police have been “going after” them. People have indeed spoken up vigorously against camera crews of channels that systematically distort the movement.

Not a word has been heard from the movement against foreigners or homosexuals.

The key word is Jews.

Qui veut noyer son chien l’accuse de la rage. (French proverb).

As the French saying goes, whoever wants to drown his dog claims he has rabies. Today whoever wants to ruin a career, take vengeance on a rival, disgrace an individual or destroy a movement accuses her, him, or it of antisemitism.

So, faced with a rising democratic movement, playing the “antisemitism” card was inevitable. It was almost a sure thing statistically. In almost any random batch of hundreds of thousands of people, you might find one or two who have something negative to say about a Jew. That’ll do it. The media hawks are on the outlook. The slightest incident can be used to suggest that the real motive of the movement is to revive the Holocaust.

This gently ironic little song, performed on one of France’s traffic circles, contrasts the “nice” establishment with the “bad” ordinary folk. It is a huge hit on YouTube. It gives the tone of the movement. Les Gentils et les Méchants.

It didn’t take long for this merry number to be accused of antisemitism. Why? Because it was ironically dedicated to two of the very most virulent critics of the Gilets Jaunes: May ’68 star Daniel Cohn-Bendit and old “new philosopher” Bernard-Henri Lévy. The new generation can’t stand them. But wait, they happen to be Jewish. Aha! Anti-Semitism!

  • The REPRESSION

Faced with what government spokesman Benjamin Griveaux described as “agitators” and “insurrectionists” who want to “overthrow the government”, Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced a new “law to better protect the right to demonstrate”. Its main measure: heavily punish organizers of a demonstration whose time and place have not had official approval.

In fact, the police had already arrested 33-year-old truck driver Eric Drouet for organizing a small candle ceremony in honor of the movement’s casualties. There have been many other arrests, with no information coming out about them. (Incidentally, over the holidays, hoodlums in the banlieues of several cities carried out their ritual burning of parked cars, with no particular publicity or crackdown. Those were cars of working class people who need them to go to work, not the precious cars in the rich section of Paris whose destruction caused such scandal.)

On January 7, Luc Ferry, a “philosopher” and former Minister of Youth, Education and Research, gave a radio interview on the very respectable Radio Classique in which he declared: “The police are not given the means to end this violence. It’s unbearable. Listen, frankly, when you see guys kick a poor policemen when he’s down, that’s enough! Let them use their arms once and for all, basta! […] As I recall, we have the world’s fourth army, capable of putting an end to this garbage.”

Ferry called on Macron to make a coalition with the Republicans in order to push through his “reforms”.

Last month, in a column against the Citizens’ Initiative Referendum, Ferry wrote that “the current disparaging of experts and criticism of elitism is the worst calamity of our times.”

  • The ANTIFA

Wherever people gather, Antifa groups may pursue their indiscriminate search to root out “fascists”. In Bordeaux last Saturday, Yellow Vests had to fight off an attack by Antifa.

It is now completely clear (as indeed it always has been) that the self-styled “Antifascists” are the watch dogs of the status quo. In their tireless search for “fascists”, the Antifa attack anything that moves. In effect, they protect stagnation. And curiously enough, Antifa violence is tolerated by the same State and the same police who insult, attack and arrest more peaceful demonstrators. In short, the Antifa are the storm troopers of the current system.

  • The MEDIA

Be skeptical. At least in France, mainstream media are solidly on the side of “order”, meaning Macron, and foreign media tend to echo what national media write and say. Also, as a general rule, when it comes to France, the Anglophone media often get it wrong.

  • The END

It is not in sight. This may not be a revolution, but it is a revelation of the real nature of “the system”. Power lies with a technocracy in the service of “the Markets”, meaning the power of finance capital. This technocracy aspires to remake human society, our own societies and those all over the planet, in the interests of a certain capitalism. It uses economic sanctions, overwhelming propaganda and military force (NATO) in a “globalization” project that shapes people’s lives without their consent. Macron is the very embodiment of this system. He was chosen by that famous elite to carry through the measures dictated by “the Markets”, enforced by the European Union. He cannot give in. But now that people are awake to what is going on, they won’t stop either. For all the lamented decline in the school system, the French people today are as well-educated and reasonable as any population can be expected to be. If they are incapable of democracy, then democracy is impossible.

To be continued…

 
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  1. Notice, the key word is “Markets.” They have been feeding us these craven lies about the supposedly benign or beneficial workings of the “Free Market” for too long now, and people are finally realizing it’s all a bunch of bunk because it is all crooked. Even honest conservatives and libertarians are learning it.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Wizard of Oz
    , @Thim
  2. California has had referendums that people voted on only to have the result negated later, including one about immigration. All too often very confusing language is used and disingenuous advertising commercials are employed to dupe people into voting against their intentions.

    Australia had a referendum on changing from being a constitutional monarchy, with Queen Elizabeth of the UK as its head of state, to being a republic but instead of simply offering that simple choice with the type of republic to be decided later, a specific and unappealing form of a republic was offered and rejected. Interest in the issue has largely dwindled since.

    The media is a huge problem everywhere, as is the type of person who often joins the police and military and will willingly brutalise their own people.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @English Yobbo
  3. This was a very good summary of things, from what I can tell.

  4. anon[417] • Disclaimer says:

    France has a nasty record of murdering dissenters.
    Hundreds of Algerians were murdered by the cops in one suppressed incident in Paris around 1960.
    During WW1, French troops refused to advance into an obvious kill zone in SE France.
    Artillery was mounted, and when the troops retreated, between 15,000 and 50,000 were massacred.
    That story was at Lew Rockwell.com around 2010, but seems to have disappeared.

  5. llloyd says:

    This week in New Zealand, a Cabinet Minister from N Z’s “leftist” Government called an air traffic controller “a clown” for arriving late for work and so causing delay of his commerical flight. An air traffic controller has a mega serious job and he was late because his car had broken down. The Jilet Jaunes’ movement hour has come. Macron obligingly has told us who are the elites. “Elected representatives, police, journalists, Jews, foreigners and homo sexuals.” But they are only the servants of the French estates which are the financial markets. Whether through financial illiteracy or fear, I read no Jilet Jaunes’ advocacy for banking reform, Without that, the critics of Jilet Jaunes have a point. Banking reform is now labeled as both Anti-Semetic and Sharia.

  6. Gene says:

    Today, the Jews are powerful. They have far more power (every where, in every institution) than Adof Hitler in his early days. But, the future will NOT be kind to Jews. They are initiating disaster on themselves and they are the only ones to blame for the chaos they are causing.

    • Agree: Alfred
  7. Avrier says:
    @anon

    @Disclaimer

    “‘During WW1, French troops refused to advance into an obvious kill zone in SE France , Artillery was mounted, and when the troops retreated, between 15,000 and 50,000 were massacred….”
    There was no fight in SE France.
    Of course the story disappeared
    Only an idiot or a French hater could have believed it
    Were you a litlle more knowledgeable you could have referred to the repression of the Commune in 1871,well documented.]
    .

  8. Wally says:
    @obwandiyag

    You certainly are fond of strawmen.

    There are no real free markets, and that’s the problem.

    • Replies: @Gary
    , @anti_republocrat
    , @Heros
  9. My apologies for a long comment, see no possibility to make it shorter.

    The title should have been ‘Is democracy in Europe dead ?’.
    Even better would have been ‘How victor’s propaganda destroyed democracy’.
    The allies won WWII, USA, USSR, GB.
    As after WWI, the Germans were to blame.
    Both Churchill and Kennan were of the opinion that the big mistake of Versailles had been not to encapsulate the evil Germans in a European Union, a union that, as Wilson’s war, would end all wars.

    In 1948, Berlin blockade, the USA discovered that FDR’s Uncle Joe refused to play the part that FDR wanted him to play, junior partner in a world ruled by the USA in the Security Council.
    In 1953 at last the USA saw what had been known in Germany at least since WWI, the USSR wanted to impose its system on the world, to withstand the USSR the USA needed Germany as a partner.

    A new Germany, there had been no Germany since the 1945 capitulation, was established, but with a large number of USA occupation troops, and the obligation to educate the history of the victors, plus the obligation to support Israel.

    I suppose just after WWII anyone believed the propaganda about the evil Germans, just one man, with Goldhagen’s Willing Helpers, caused WWII and perpetrated the holocaust.
    Never again, was the idea.

    The Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg began the Benelux, mainly economic cooperation, before that, there had been what I do not remember clearly, a Coal and Steel Community.
    This lead to the EEC, European Economic Cooperation, with which was nothing wrong, that I can remember, sovereign nations with their own currencies cooperating economically.

    Now when the EU idea began, a unified Europe, Europe the continent, I’m not sure.
    The idea of a unified Europe, in which the nation states did not, or hardly exist, was probably also caused by the around 1970 ideas, anything nation states did, electricity, public transport, providing energy, could be done more efficiëntly by commercial organisations.
    And, of course, any organisation tries to enlarge itself, the EEC bureaucracy, I suppose, began to compete with the nation states.

    1995 for me is another milestone, in that year the Dutch Kok government, during a normal cabinet meeting, decided to introduce the euro.
    Two experts were present, a board member of the Dutch central bank, and the minister for economic affairs. The two agreed that ‘they (Kok) had no idea what they were doing’, what they did in the meeting, I did not know.
    Cannot remember that at the time the Dutch people were informed, cannot remember a debate in parliament.

    In 1997 70 Dutch economist, at their own expense, placed an advertisement in quite a few Dutch papers, whole page, warning for the euro.
    They got attention, all of them were harmed in their careers.

    The next crucial year for me was 2005, the so called EU constitution. It had nothing to do with what one thinks a constitution is, it was a 450 pages document.
    But both in France and in the Netherlands there were intellectuals who read the 450 pages, internet was already available, and so in all three countries where politicians had no idea what common people thought, referenda were held: France, Netherlands, Ireland.
    All three rejected the ‘constitution’, but there was a way out, the Treaty of Lisbon, in essence the 450 pages text without the EU anthem and without the flag, was signed by the heads of the states.
    According to Farrage in EP was said ‘they do not know what they’re doing’, and so the EU train moved on.

    In theory the EU is democratic, there is a European parliament, with direct voting, though voting is just possible on national parties, a all EU political party does not exist, and decisions taken in Brussels must be ratified by the national parliaments.

    Practice is quite different, the EU is ruled by the heads of the national states, national parliaments never, as far as I can remember, rejected a Brussels decision.
    Rejection implies a vote of non confidence in the own president, prime minister, chancellor.

    Now the WWII propaganda about the evil Germans must be mentioned.
    Germany again is economically and politically the most important EU member, the member brainwashed by guilt feelings.
    What motivates Merkel only Merkel knows, but from what she does for me just one conclusion is possible: the idea that the evil Germans must disappear through massive immigration.

    Merkel’s power is based on the failed euro, Varoufakis is of the opinion, I agree, that Merkel deliberately continues the euro crisis, this gives her power.

    Now back to the Yellow Vests and democracy. Democracy ended in the EU member states in 2005, Merkel rules the EU, driven by the victor’s WWII propaganda.
    In the nation states also no democracy any more, who is against the EU, the euro, mass immigration, open borders, free settlement in the whole EU, the CO2 hype, is a populist, fascist, racist, nationalist, white supremacist, whatever.
    In fact in the EU member states we have two party systems: for and against EU.
    Propaganda by politicians and MSM is such that there is very little trust in anti EU politicians, disasters must happen when a country leaves the EU, even more if the EU falls apart.

    But, as USA senator and sociologist Moynihan writes ‘never will propaganda convince victims that they’re not victims’.
    This is, in my opinion, what now happens in France, more than half the French have had enough, enough simply in making ends meet.
    The same is happening in the Netherlands and Germany, but in these two countries immigration also is an important factor.
    The victims are unable to analyse what causes their misery, but they do understand that Brussels and its puppets are the main cause.

    Here begins my idea of similarity with the Weimar Republic at the end of the thirties, the Germans also had had enough.
    A Hitler came, and promised to lead them out of the desert, the desert caused by Versailles.
    He declared the Versailles Diktat null and void.
    If something similar is going to happen now, I do not know.

    But it seems possible, the anti EU party FvD was etablished in the Netherlands in October 2017, it now has 30.000 members, Rutte’s VVD 25.000.
    Macron is a lame duck, Merkel is not in a much better position.

  10. @llloyd

    Banking reform is definitely among issues raised. In particular, a return to the French Central Bank (versus the European Central Bank) so that the State no longer gets heavily into debt to private banks. This implies leaving the euro. The discussion is just beginning.

    • Replies: @JMaciber
  11. Tsigantes says:

    Thank you Diana Johnstone, as ever. I note that it’s the second time round that I read you on French insurrection…..May ’68

    Meanwhile, what a wonderful quote!

    “the current disparaging of experts and criticism of elitism is the worst calamity of our times.”

    And how fascinating:
    Macron: “These days I have seen unthinkable things and heard the unacceptable.” Apparently alluding to the few opposition politicians who dare sympathize with the protesters, he chastised those who pretend to “speak for the people”, but are only the “spokesmen for a hateful mob going after elected representatives, police, journalists, Jews, foreigners and homosexuals. It is simply the negation of France.”

    Thus, politicians, media, police [ie enforcement], Jews, foreigners and homosexuals = “France” / “Greece” / “USA” / “UK” etc.

    As for anti-semitism, paf! Daniel Cohn-Bendit [the CIA’s face of May ’68] and Henry Bernard-Levy are two low quality toads who fully deserve the world’s revulsion, irrespective of religion / “race” etc.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  12. https://www.achgut.com/artikel/gelbe-westen_ueberall

    Denn eine nüchterne Betrachtung der Entwicklungen der letzten Jahrzehnte zeigt, dass es die etablierte Politik selbst ist, die eine epochale Beschneidung von politischer Teilhabe, Selbstbestimmung und Bürgerrechten vorangetrieben hat, gegen die sich die Bürger nun auflehnen.

    Technokratie statt Demokratie

    Die bedeutendste Entwicklung ist die zunehmende Entmachtung demokratisch gewählter Instanzen zugunsten von Gerichten, unabhängigen Zentralbanken, (Umwelt)-Bürokratien und internationalen Organisationen.

    Summary

    Yellow Vests everywhere.
    An analysis of the developments of the last decennia shows that mainstream policies restricted participation in politics, self determination and civil rights, the restrictions against which citizens now rebel.
    Technocracy in stead of democracy.
    The most important development is loss of political power of democratically elected organs, with increasing powers of courts, central banks, environment agencies and international organisations.

  13. Nobody cares about French democracy because the French lost their souls in 1940 when they licked the boots of the Germans for 4+ years

    • Replies: @annamaria
  14. Anon[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Indeed now it seems Australians scan the world and can’t find a system which looks evidently better than they have even if one could think of a few tweaks that one might get 5 per cent of people to focus on and agree would be improvements. The supporters of a directly elected head of state whos opposition to the version on offer sank the referendum must be glad that they have had a few years to think about the fine print and learn, perhaps from other enthusiasts like the Brexiteers, what disasters can occur if you don’t do all the homework in advance and understand exactly what you are instituting.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  15. @anon

    WW1? SE France??? Maybe taken down from he Lew Rockwell site because it contained American standard geography.

  16. Whitewolf says:

    If the French follow the example of the brave boxer then it won’t be long before Macron is a refugee seeking asylum.

  17. @obwandiyag

    Does it not occur to you that the problem of alternatives to markets (despite their imperfections and the need for legal mechanisms to curb abuse) is that they are all defective roughly in the way that societies are defective which do not embody the classic rule of law which doesn’t allow the strong, including the government, to prevail just because they have more weight to throw around or have friends who hold the levers of power. It is one of civilised man’s ways of coping with imperfection. Indeed it probably preceded civilisation.

  18. onebornfree says: • Website

    “Off goes the head of the king, and tyranny gives way to freedom. The change seems abysmal. Then, bit by bit, the face of freedom hardens, and by and by it is the old face of tyranny. Then another cycle, and another. But under the play of all these opposites there is something fundamental and permanent — the basic delusion that men may be governed and yet be free.”

    “Democracy is a sort of laughing gas. It will not cure anything, perhaps, but it unquestionably stops the pain.”

    “Liberty and democracy are eternal enemies, and every one knows it who has ever given any sober reflection to the matter. “

    “Democracy is the worship of jackals by jackasses.”

    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”

    “If x is the population of the United States and y is the degree of imbecility of the average American, then democracy is the theory that x times y is less than y.”

    “All of democracy’s axioms “resolve themselves into thundering paradoxes, many amounting to downright contradictions in terms. The mob is competent to rule the rest of us – but it must be rigorously policed itself. There is a government, not of men, but laws – but men are set upon benches to decide finally what the law is and may be.”

    H.L. Mencken

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Waitemata
  19. Heros says:

    Diana Johnstone misses the most important reason for these revolts:

    Uttering the name “Rothschild” has become as taboo as “Voldemort” was in the Potter series. Everyone knows it but no one will talk about it. If the name Rothschild appears in a derogatory fashion in any news article or op-ed, then the author can expect not only the usual anti-semite smears, but also being put on various lists and databases for persecution and even gang stalking. ADL, Bnei Brith, Massod, you name it, because there is no people on the planet as famous for getting sadistic revenge for every perceived infraction.

    I have never seen an article here on Unz about the Rothschilds, or any of the 13 or 300 families for that matter.

    The real problem here is holohoax denial, this magick ritual is the razor knife held at the throat of European civilization. No one will talk about it, even though all know that it is at the heart of the suppression of our free speech.

    The Yellow Vests can crow about sovereignty, initiatives and leaving Nato all they want, but until they get free speech there can never be anything approaching democracy. Initiatives usually easily manipulated, just look at Mastricht as the author states. Free speech means allowing centuries of jewish shibboleths to be exposed along with the true nature of the all the wars of the last centuries.

    The Gillets Jaune cannot take on this juggernaut of jewish power, if only because they cannot even acknowledge that Rothschild debt slavery is the reason they are upset. For the movement to go forward it needs a leader. Committees will get bogged down in deliberately manufactured crisis’s and compromises. Only a strong leader would have a chance of freeing the French from this plantation.

    Christophe Dettinger is most likely some kind of Rothschild agent sent in to subsume the movement. Or he will become mind controlled while under their control ala Tommy Robinson.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @anonymoys
  20. swamped says:

    “…the GJ merely ask that the people be allowed to choose, and the referendum is the way to choose…. The right to a CIR exists in Switzerland, Italy and California…Such a referendum requires honest, independent media which are not all owned by special interests. It requires making sure that politicians who make the laws follow the popular will expressed in the referendum.” Which is the hard part; holding a referendum and making sure govt. ‘s follow the popular will in the referendum when it
    is not what they want to hear. Various stratagems may be employed. In 2000, California voters, by an overwhelming majority of 61% to 39%, passed Proposition 22 which added Section 308.5 to the state Family Code, which decreed :”Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California”. This statue was later, in May,2008, ruled unconstitutional by the California supreme court in a close split 4-3 decision. California voters tried again in Nov. elections in that year to require government to follow popular will by passing Proposition 8, an amendment to the state constitution which would have overturned the state supreme court decision and restored the 2000 law defining marriage as only between a man and a woman. This too was later overturned by federal courts. One way or another the popular will of the people usually gets thwarted by the system, referendum or no referendum.

  21. Renoman says:

    Revolution is here and it will not go quietly. Houses will be burnt, the rich will die in large numbers and the poor in much larger numbers but it will not go quietly into the night. The fuse is lit.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  22. Macaron, the crumbling cookie, was elected in a clearly cooked poll. The Gilets Jaunes want real freedom & real democracy.

  23. Good article.

    I remember two important referendums in California. A majority voted against educating illegals in the public school system as it was a massive drain on educational resources. When it passed there were actually protest riots in Mexico. However, a few weeks later, the vote was overturned by a judge.

    Most people probably aren’t aware that the majority of Californians voted against gay marriage in a referendum. Of course, their vote was overturned a few weeks later by another judge.

    The judicial community in both the US and Europe seems to act primarily as a rubber stamp for the elite’s agenda.

    • Agree: densa
    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  24. Noel says:

    France is always ready for a revolution. We shouldn’t be surprised about that. What many of us are surprised about is how the latest promise of one came about.

    A tax hike in fuel duties? In the UK, this sort of imposition on the people passes as a matter of routine, but I can see why Westminster does it: someone has to meet the bill for all the migrants pouring in who bring nothing to the party. A fuel taxation increase is good because many legal immigrants (and for that matter illegals) are soon driving cars so a hike at the pumps means they are at least putting something back into the system that kindly allows them to do bugger all.

    I mean, income taxing the working natives is both highly unpopular, brings in less revenue for the government and excuses the migrants as they have very little intention of working when they can get it all for free.

    Go France. We across the channel with watch with interest.

    • Replies: @Brabantian
  25. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Mike Springmann

    Mike Springmann says: “The Gilets Jaunes want real freedom & real democracy.”

    In that case , they are all too stupid to understand that real freedom and democracy are in actual fact polar opposites. So, good luck with that 🙂 .

    This just in: “Liberty and democracy are eternal enemies, and every one knows it who has ever given any sober reflection to the matter. “ H.L. Mencken

    Regards, onebornfree

  26. @Heros

    The real problem here is holohoax denial, this magick ritual is the razor knife held at the throat of European civilization. No one will talk about it, even though all know that it is at the heart of the suppression of our free speech

    .

    All know ?
    I’d say very few understand the facts and the connection.
    But the holocaust story is losing effectiveness, Israel is critised for the Gaza concentration camp, questions are asked what USA multi billionaire Soros has to do with politics in the European continent.

    • Replies: @joeshittheragman
    , @Heros
  27. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Renoman

    Renoman says: Revolution is here and it will not go quietly. Houses will be burnt, the rich will die in large numbers and the poor in much larger numbers but it will not go quietly into the night. The fuse is lit.

    Although I’d be more than happy to see all [or even some], of these globalist scumbags get their comeuppance, truth is, in the end it would all be for nothing:

    “Off goes the head of the king, and tyranny gives way to freedom. The change seems abysmal. Then, bit by bit, the face of freedom hardens, and by and by it is the old face of tyranny. Then another cycle, and another. But under the play of all these opposites there is something fundamental and permanent — the basic delusion that men may be governed and yet be free.” [ my emphasis] H.L. Mencken

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    , @animalogic
  28. In France, as elsewhere in the west, the problem is the Jewish owned media and their co-ethnics among the elite that they work to protect. Accusations of “anti Semitism” are just projection for the hatred and contempt that the Jews in France have for actual French people.

    Getting rid of Jews would start France on the long road to recovery and ironically all the Africans and Moslems that Jews have agitated to bring in are actually the ones driving them to flee to their “shitty little country”.

  29. @Tsigantes

    Macron: “These days I have seen unthinkable things and heard the unacceptable.”

    Yes, unthinkable things, indeed lost all contact with reality.
    Unacceptable, in fact saying the same again: unable to accept reality.

    Wrting this I remember the faces of Ceaucescu and wife during the show trial: this does not happen.
    To prevent misunderstanding, I see this show as the effort of his closest collaborators to blame one man, and his wife, as Versailles was the show to put all blame on Germany, and the Neurenberg (and Japanese) shows were organised to put all blame on the vanquised.

    Nevertheless, we cannot expect a solution from Macron, emotionally completely blocked.
    As, in my opinion, the EU clique is also completely blocked emotionally, this conflict can only escalate, until ….
    I have no idea, and see no point in speculations.

  30. @Mike Springmann

    Any proof for ‘cooked’, other than the undemocratic French democratic system ?

  31. @Anonymous12

    judicial community in both the US and Europe

    In both cases top judges are nominated because of their political convictions.
    This is the problem, trying to make us believe that judicial decisions are objective.
    Here in Europe we never had the problem, until a European Court was estabished, that can overturn political decisions.

  32. anonymoys says:
    @Heros

    “For the movement to go forward it needs a leader.”

    May I suggest that you are completely WRONG?

    Actually, being w/o a leader it’s one of the strongest point of the movement.

    Can you tell me, without googling, who is the leader of the Swiss Confederation ?

    Got it ?

    The Swiss system is the Yellow Vest’s model. As the writer pointed out, The YV, got the idea of Citizens’ Initiative Referendum (CIR), from Switzerland.

    Semi-Direct Democracy works very well in Switzerland and there is no reason why it wouldn’t work in other European countries.

    To sum up, in Switzerland, people are actors, not spectators…They are not sheep who follow leaders.

    This is what YV movement is fighting for….Of course they will fail…but that won’t be because they don’t have a leader.

    • Replies: @Heros
  33. @NoseytheDuke

    Australia had a referendum on changing from being a constitutional monarchy, with Queen Elizabeth of the UK as its head of state, to being a republic but instead of simply offering that simple choice with the type of republic to be decided later, a specific and unappealing form of a republic was offered and rejected. Interest in the issue has largely dwindled since.

    I remember being at a party not long after that referendum. I was in the kitchen drinking with some other Brits and at least one Aussie. There was certain amount of light-hearted ribbing and piss taking going on, back and forth, I can’t remember what it was mostly about, rugby or cricket probably.

    Anyway, someone pointed out the Aussies had recently had a referendum and voted to keep the monarchy. The Aussie replied with some probably unintended passion “Yeah, well, its not that we love the Royals, but we’d rather have the Queen as head of state, than another lying, scheming scumbag politician”.

    Through my drunken haze, I thought, “you know, thats a really good point”. And thats when I became a Royalist.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
    , @peterAUS
  34. @llloyd

    Whether through financial illiteracy or fear, I read no Jilet Jaunes’ advocacy for banking reform, Without that, the critics of Jilet Jaunes have a point. Banking reform is now labeled as both Anti-Semetic and Sharia.

    Apparently they’re going to organise a bank run:

    • Agree: Agent76
  35. @jilles dykstra

    Varoufakis’s book ‘And The Weak Suffer What They Must’ is really good on the development of the EU from its beginnings as a dream of people like the Count of Coudenhove-Kalergi through to its present incarnation. A United States of Europe was always the end goal.

    Also, my dad and his brother were old enough to be in the British Army in WWII. Neither of them hated Germans or German soldiers. My uncle spent most of the war in a German P.O.W camp. He said to me “we got on well with the German guards and became good friends with some of them”. He said “Never believe anything you see in the films, it wasn’t like that at all”.

  36. Agent76 says:

    Jan 9, 2019 Yellow Vest BANK RUN Protest – They’re Going For The ROTHSCHILD’S, This Could Be HUGE!!!

    The one thing the government and banksters fear the most is an informed population who understand economics and who see through their system of fractional reserve lending.

  37. @jilles dykstra

    People have wised up. They know now the holocaust malarkey was/is a hoax.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  38. This is a great article, thanks. Maybe, the beautiful French will revive Western society via the direct democracy option, designed thousands of years ago by the ancient Greeks. That is the most optimistic possibility, albeit a quick look at reality shows us the stealthily thwarted Brexit.

    The Yellow Jackets have already gotten far more in the way of concessions from the techno elites than Americans in the wake of years of mass-scale Occupy protests, coming mostly from the left, and the grassroots election of a “right-wing” demolition candidate: Donald J. Trump.

    It is funny how elites demolish by appropriation everything that looks like real change. Not that Obama ever looked like anything but a corporate neoliberal to many of us, but for those who thought he represented “change,” it must have been pretty disappointing to see how elites usurped him, scooping him into their sycophantic fold to promote an endless array of pro-corporate policies, like supporting the weldare-aided onslaught of mass immigration that has held wages down in the USA for 40 years.

    Obama has made bank off of appeasing the corporate-government complex, as the troika of Big Government, Big Globalist Corporations and the Big Corporate Media knew he would, and Trump has thus far delivered for the same groups, providing stock buyback tax cuts and more progressive tax code favoritism for dual-earner parents, like those—in a vastly underemployed nation—occupying two, safe, above-firing, family-friendly, absenteeism-friendly jobs per household in Crony Corporate / Crony Government America.

    This type of tax-favoritism policy, along with monthly welfare for select, womb-productive citizens and noncitizens, enabling them to work part-time / temp jobs that keep them qualified for welfare, is a bandaid that undercuts wages for everyone else, trying to cover skyrocketing housing costs on wages that deflate decade after decade. No matter which party promotes it, it is nothing but status-quo-hoisting neoliberalism, the philosophy that governs both parties, with minor variations only in how much to tax the rich.

    Hopefully, the Yellow Jackets will coax elites into a viable referendum, but watch out for the tried-and-true tactic that political / corporate elites often deploy to defuse the intentions of grassroots movements. Elites prefer to take the punch out of the “change” prior to a big vote, rather than chiseling “change” away with a thousand swipes as with Brexit.

    Keep your eye on the next major French election. Elites love nothing better than a minority candidate that they can hold up as a change instigator, just due to skin pigmentation, since they can then hide behind the fake change agent, pursuing exactly the same elite-pumping policies that ensure near-zero wage gains and zero gains in job quality for the majority of citizens.

    Even though he is white, Trump’s man-on-the-street mannerisms served the same distracting purpose: flattering voters whose wages would continue to be mostly flatlined, with part-time / temp offerings continuing to be the norm.

    We’ve been though years—decades really—of pretend “change”, but there has been no abatement in the welfare-assisted reverse colonization of the USA via legal immigration or of the wage-deflating, welfare-abetted avalanche of legal / illegal immigration. We could hold a referendum, casting our votes in blue or red vests, with elites standing in the wings thinking of ways to undermine the toolkit of direct democracy.

  39. Heros says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “I’d say very few understand the facts and the connection.”

    Very few have bothered to go to Codoh to verify Wally’s links about the 6 gorillion. But they do know that jewish behavior in general and the “Holocaust” in specific is very sensative. They know about how jews will behave if you acknowledge the genocode of the Armenians, let alone call it a “holocaust” because jews are always trying to get laws passed to restrict calling the holodomort a genocide either.

    The people see this. They see foreigners like Irving and Zundel getting thrown in prison. They know about Germans like Germar Ruldolf who have been forced to flee the country. They see jews kvetching and extracting money. Israel is still sucking Germany dry after 70 years. Every time Israel puts on a media campaign and drags out some poor 95 year old “prison guard”, the people see it.

    Greeks know that Golden Dawn was squelched under false claims of anti-semitism. Italians are aware that jewish central banks are turning the screws on Salvini. The Italians know Monti and Renzi were Rothschild dupes just like Macron, Holland and Sarkozy or Merkel and Schroder.

    No matter how hard Israel and the jews cover up and try to get the goyim to ignore their destriuction of Gaza and all the countries around them, the goyim are waking up about Palestine and the genocide of Arabs and Christians who had been living there too.

    So although I would agree that most Europeans have no idea of the breadth or the depth of the jewish fraud, they have become aware of jewish power and the price that is paid for crossing a jew.

    • Replies: @Alligator
  40. lysias says:

    Democracy by elected politicians has failed. We need instead to adopt the ancient Athenian system of choosing officeholders by lot fron the whole population. That will take power away from the politicians and give it to the people. True democracy.

    • Replies: @densa
    , @Sowhat
  41. We will see! Told us the wise blind man.

  42. Beckow says:

    …French people today are as well-educated and reasonable as any population can be expected to be. If they are incapable of democracy, then democracy is impossible.

    Very true. Any system can only be judged by its results, and in a democracy the results have to be what the majority wants. Any talk about ‘absurd demands‘ or populism misses the whole point of democracy.

    The global liberalism has everything on its side except results. The liberal elites control finance, media, culture, academia… This level of ‘totalitarian‘, but very chaotic, control has not existed in the West since the late Middle Ages. The escape routes have also been blocked, the system is truly global. The eventual blow-up is inevitable, closed systems are unstable and impossible to ‘reform’.

    Few things to keep in mind:
    – historically when dramatic change happens it doesn’t play out the way people want
    – the current pro-liberal elite enthusiasts will never own up to what they did – they will be the first ones to claim that they were also ‘victims’ of the system
    – Macron is truly an idiot and that doesn’t bode well for France, individual qualities matter in a crisis. It is literally impossible to design a more perfect specimen to cause maximum chaos than the hapless Emmanuel.

  43. Congratulations for this beautiful article!

    It is difficult to read such a complete and accurate report in the French main medias which are owned by millionaires or by the government.

    • Replies: @densa
  44. @jilles dykstra

    🙂 Rightist Le Pen espoused the same views as Leftist Melenchon. Macron ran on his disastrous record as Economic Minister and won.

  45. aandrews says:

    From Wikipedia: “In June 2011, Le Canard Enchaîné, Le Monde and other media revealed that Luc Ferry, a professor at Paris Diderot University since 1996 (or 1997, depending on sources) had not ever taught there — when he was minister, he was on leave, and when not on leave his obligation to teach was waived in order for him to undertake other official duties. Some of those came with compensation pay, while he was still paid as a professor.”

    Little wonder that Ferry considers “the current disparaging of experts and criticism of elitism is the worst calamity of our times.” Pig.

  46. onebornfree says: • Website
    @English Yobbo

    English Yobbo says: “I thought, “you know, thats a really good point”. And thats when I became a Royalist.”

    A typical mindless Brit slave. [ essentially no different from the typical Euro slave- French or otherwise].

    Simply cannot imagine living, and being solely and 100% responsible for, his/her own life.

    Always needs some authority figure to tell them and everyone else, what to do.

    Very sad. So glad I left that $hithole [GB] and all of its mindless slaves behind, so many moons ago.

    Regards, onebornfree

  47. You can scroll through the tweets in this thread to see the size of the Yellow Vest marches today:

  48. sallyA says:

    Thanks for long winded history enumerating the failures of the Jews planted in the positions at the top EU to listen to the masses @9 … your description fits many government.citizen situations. .
    the Situation in France is felt throughout the western NATO globe.. the rising is much like a college panty raid. at first its a few drunk aspirants, then it becomes a group, soon it becomes a crowd which develops into a movement..and the movement becomes a national goal with capacity sufficient to overcome the available fire power of the opposing entrenched authority.. Greece, France, are just the beginning.. I perceive this to be a world movement, Antifia the self-styled “Antifascists” are the watch dogs of the status quo (the knee breaking arm of the Zionist Establishment[KBOE]). In their tireless search for “fascists”, the Antifa attack anything that moves. In effect, they protect stagnation. And curiously enough, Antifa violence is tolerated by the same State and the same police who insult, attack and arrest more peaceful demonstrators. In short, the Antifa are the storm troopers of the current system.
    Antifia types carried Lenin in Czarist Russia…. and they did it the same way, take over a legitimate rising of the masses by coupling the power of the masses to propaganda and using the resultant chaos to plant the-few-illegitimate-to-the-purpose-of-the-rising- Leninist[takeover apirants] into all of the positions of governmental authority and power. presto.. the power of the masses has been used to leverage a revolution not intended by the masses.

    The roar of the panty raid may find Americans joining them in the streets against the current occupants of the USA and Brits in the Streets against the current powers in the UK government and also seems to be possible in Israel. Quite interesting to watch it grow?
    W

  49. Mike P says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Merkel’s power is based on the failed euro, Varoufakis is of the opinion, I agree, that Merkel deliberately continues the euro crisis, this gives her power.

    Merkel has no “power” – she is just the quintessential puppet. She marches in lockstep with every single globalist nonsense of the day, be it suffocating Greece, admitting “refugees” into central Europe, fighting Brexit, joining the last-ditch effort to transform the EU into a superstate … you name it. When the Obama government blatantly embarrassed her in public by stating that they were in possession of all her cell phone records, she kept mum – and next thing you know, she threw the doors open to the “refugees.”

    One only has to look at Merkel’s career to understand this pattern. Basically, she came out of nowhere after the reunification. Her father had enjoyed a very cosy relationship with the East German authorities; very peculiar for a Protestant minister (most of those were treated as enemies of the regime). Photographs suggest that she herself did some spying on noted regime critic Robert Havemann.

    Well, after reunification, she quickly joined the newly unified Christian Democrat Union (precursor parties of the same name had existed in both East and West), was swiftly made a minister by Kohl, and after Kohl’s demise was then promoted over his natural and expected successor, Wolfgang Schaeuble, who was conveniently tainted with a minor scandal (but nothing too big to damage him irreversibly – he is a capable administrator, after all).

    Merkel never really had anything going for her – no looks, no ideas, no rhetorical talent (her speeches are positively painful to listen to), and no network of supporters inside the party. Nevertheless, no determined resistance to her has ever emerged in the party. It is clear, therefore, that powerful interests from outside have engineered her ascent to “power” – and continue to pull her strings.

    I suspect that the one thing she did have going for her is susceptibility to blackmail – her Stasi files have never been made public, although they must have existed. If someone can be blackmailed, that means they can be controlled, and therefore they make suitable puppets.

  50. Heros says:
    @anonymoys

    The Swiss recently approved by wide margins an initiative to allow the state owned media, SRF, to continue with its monopoly. Each Swiss house hold is forced to pay almost $500 for a tv license, and the state monopoly keeps threatening to tax laptops and smart phones because they can be use to watch content produced by the Swiss media monopoly. Some people just enjoy their enslavement, just look at Sweden, Norway and even Switzerland. BBC would love to have that its plantation as brainwashed as the Swiss are.

    The first Cantons got their freedom almost 1000 years ago by forcing the Habsburgs in Austria to give up on some dubious claims to some subsistence farming villages in several remove valleys in the alps.

    This is a far cry from attempting to simultaneously overthrow the Rothschild’s, who have owned France since the Revolution in 1789, and who still own Nato and the EU today; globohomo, who have now mind controlled an entire generation with their filth; Israel and its land grab in Palestine; and all the jews on the planet who want to continue to benefit from jewish privilege while waiting to cash in on all the talmudic rewards promised to gods chosen people after the creation of the third temple.

    No ragtag group of protesters is going to pull this off, no matter how PC they manage to remain.

    • Replies: @anonymoys
  51. Gary says:
    @Wally

    “There are no real free markets, and that’s the problem” – laughing out loud! Yeah, right, and there is “no invisible hand raising all boats either” I might add nor are there any “miracles” associated with “the market.” And, sad to say “there is no Easter bunny as far as I can tell.”

    No, there is only the endless greed, human suffering and ecological destruction produced by a global system that has left the five richest people on earth with as much wealth as the bottom one-half of earth’s entire human population. Neoliberal Capitalism in action. But, wait, don’t tell me, those five richest people “worked so much harder than those 3.3 billion fellow humans did that they “deserve” their wealth. And “if only we remove all environmental controls” and “all government regulations” everything will be hunky dory! How anyone can justify the continued pillage of the planet with it’s attendant human suffering based in the destruction of democracy is beyond me. “Straw man” arguement indeed.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Wally
  52. annamaria says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Thank you for the detailed overview.

  53. annamaria says:
    @joeshittheragman

    You forgot who financed the “Germans”

  54. annamaria says:

    An army of police, dressed like robots, have surrounded and blocked groups of peaceful Yellow Vests, drowning them in clouds of teargas and firing flash balls directly at protesters, seriously wounding hundreds (no official figures). A number of people have lost an eye or a hand. The government has nothing to say about this.

    Why is not the ongoing calamity in France called “French Spring?” There were Orange Revolution, the Rose Revolution, the Arab Spring in Syria and Libya… Time for the globalists to enjoy at home the fruits of their murderous international games. https://www.eurasiareview.com/11102011-france-and-the-arab-spring-an-opportunistic-quest-for-influence-analysis/

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @anonymoys
    , @Platon
  55. M Edward says:

    The over arching issue regarding most modern oppression of Ethnic-Europeans worldwide is Jewish controlled Freemasonry.

    Certainly, when Eisenhower and later JFK, warned Americans of “the Military Industrial Complex” and “Secret Societies”, that’s to whom they were referring.

    Apparently, the Freemasons wielded so much power and influence, as Woodrow Wilson stated:

    “Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”

    Even two subsequent American Presidents were reticent to utter such truth.

    Jewish Freemasonry and their ‘Shabbos Goy’ are the plague that is destroying the the lives of Ethnic Europeans.

    Worldwide.

    • Replies: @ababush
  56. “Representative democracy” is a ruse for the feeble-minded. “Representatives”, as soon as they are elected, acquire their own interests, which always trump (no pun intended) the interests of the “represented”. The only thing that can be called democratic is a referendum, but only when its results are binding. Otherwise, it is also a ruse, simple means to release the steam from a pressure-cooker to prevent an explosion (like the referendum in the Netherlands about Ukraine, which the government lost and therefore chose to ignore). That’s exactly why there never were any nationwide referenda in the US, and that is why the EU decided that referenda are “undemocratic”: the EU bureaucrats lost as many as there were on European constitution, which they then brought in through the back door.

    Thus, the only country that can be called even remotely democratic is Switzerland, where many critical decisions are made through referenda. The voting in the rest of self-appointed “democratic” countries is just a fig leaf covering the ugly truth: they are ruled by self-serving elites who don’t give a hoot about the opinions and interests of the majority of the population.

    La Belle France does not have democracy, only “representative democracy”. Something that does not exist cannot be dead or alive.

    • Agree: Mike P, JLK
  57. peterAUS says:
    @English Yobbo

    Yeah, well, its not that we love the Royals, but we’d rather have the Queen as head of state, than another lying, scheming scumbag politician

    Yep.

  58. annamaria says:

    Know your heroes and scoundrels: http://thesaker.is/gilets-jaunes-sitrep/
    Comment section:

    A fundraising campaign had been launched to support Christophe Dettinger [The boxer who give some strikes to a CRS] and his family and help him pay his legal fees. Faced with the controversy caused by the huge amount collected in less than 48 hours (more than 115,000 euros), Leetchi, a Crédit Mutuel subsidiary [a French bank], decided to close the collect.

  59. peterAUS says:

    I am actually surprised that nobody, so far, has commented on feasibility of “yellow west” (suggested) democracy in the current world.
    I do remember reading, ages ago, related material, but was hoping that somebody would chime in with a summary.

    Bottom line: Ancient Greek (Athens) type democracy can not work.
    Gets worse: US Founding Fathers democracy can’t work either.

    There is a reason why, at certain SIZE and COMPLEXITY of a society, widespread democracy does not work.
    Yes, sounds good, feels great, but, can not work.

    The problem is bigger than having “corrupted elites”.
    Hehe…but, of course, it’s much easier to focus on them than onto the problem itself.

    My prediction: things will get messy and violent rather soon. Next phase.
    What happens then…well….we’ll talk about that too.

    • Replies: @Tsigantes
  60. anonymoys says:
    @Heros

    No one can be THAT stupid and even if you were I won’t call you stupid. No name calling.

    You’re of course an agent provocateur. How much “roto-child” is paying you ?

    Adieu

  61. @annamaria

    The events in France should be called yellow revolution.

  62. Alfa158 says: • Website
    @onebornfree

    The problem with having a successful revolution in modern Europe is the lack of troops. Revolutions and wars are fought by young men. Due to the low birth rates of the native people, there are probably as many young foreign colonists in France as there are young French, and those colonists will fight for the Establishmnet. Additionally, even some of the young people who are French are on the oppressors’ side. The black block are communists happily fighting on behalf of the bankers and Eurocrats. I don’t know if there are enough French young people left to defeat the Juggernaut.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  63. Ornery Bernard-Henri Levi, the scion of the trillion fancs fraudsters and the boxer Christophe Dettinger, the scion of the gypsy chicken stealers… vive la France!

  64. The former leader of the Liberal Party of Canada and former Premier of Ontario:
    (He’s a convert to Judaism, for those of you who only use that one variable to navigate through the world).

  65. anonymoys says:
    @annamaria

    “Why is not the ongoing calamity in France called “French Spring?””

    Because manipulation of language is the privilege of the masters.

  66. @Gary

    ” But, wait, don’t tell me, those five richest people “worked so much harder than those 3.3 billion fellow humans did that they “deserve” their wealth. ”
    The USA fascination with hard work baffled me for decennia.
    I never understood this.

    In this era of using energy bodily hard work hardly exists any more, who in this sense works hard has organised his work badly, is my idea.

    Then we have the 60 to 80 hours a week office people.
    Either they’re lying through their teeth, or they confuse working with hanging out.
    Nobody can do intellectual work for more than say 45 hours per week regularly.

    Then the connection between work and income.
    Hard work, in whatever definition, never made anybody rich.
    Bernard Baruch in his memoirs describes the share market tricks that made him rich.

    If he worked hard, yes, every now and then, when he was executing a trick.
    Did he deserve the money, difficult question, he stayed within the law, as far as one can judge from his books.

    Did he deserve the money morally ?
    When values change the owner of the asset gets richer or poorer.
    A clever speculator owns assets of which the values increase.
    If that makes him deserve the increase in wealth, a long debate is possible;

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
  67. Platon says:

    If, as appears to be the case, all nations of the EU, and France in particular, are ‘occupied’ by agents loyal to the Market (Mammon) and not to the Nation and People they swore to serve, is it not time for the French people to study the methods of the Algerians in ridding themselves of their ‘occupiers’?

    That kind of War of Attrition cannot be won by the Talmudo-Satanist “free marketeers’” (what a euphemism!) as there are not enough people willing or able to be that evil.

    I believe that what the Algerians did can be seen as summary execution of all operatives and collaborators of what is now called a ‘Deep State’. It is time to compile lists in preparation for the long and bitter battle ahead against all of ‘The West, ‘ from Washington to London and Paris.

  68. Platon says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Wow, Bob! I always knew you were on the Dark Side. I never knew how much.
    I still remember the corruption your apostatic nature brought to the NDP (Socialist party in Canada).
    I guess once a Judas always a Judas, and your facility with shape-shifting (from Nothing to Socialist to Liberal to Zionazi) is proof of your absolute lack of character and personality.

  69. @Cagey Beast

    I wonder if he got those ideas before or after he converted to judaism.
    Anyhow, he sees the mene tekel.
    The Yellow Vest movement is indeed nationalistic, jews want multicultural societies, so that he’s getting afraid, understandable.
    When the word nation or nationalistic are seen or heard jews immediately envisage the foundations being laid for gas chambers.
    This is THE problem with propaganda, after some time those who make the propaganda begin to believe it themselves.

  70. Mike P says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Good going, Bob, but you really should toss in some “basket of deplorables” – that is always a winning formula.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  71. @anon

    You could also point to the ethnic cleansing in Alsace & Lorraine to cement those Départments into France once & for all.

  72. geokat62 says:
    @Cagey Beast

    The former leader of the Liberal Party of Canada and former Premier of Ontario:

    This Dishonourable POS supported the invasion of Libya… spreading the lie that Qaddafi was committing genocide by slaughtering his own people. Does anyone recall the video of Qaddafi pleading with the leaders of Europe to support his government by using the analogy of a wall – i.e., his gov’t was preventing a swarm of refugees crossing the Mediterranean and flooding Europa?

    Now, he’s equating the people of France with Nazis b/c they have the gumption to take to the streets to signal their displeasure with the status quo.

    Poor Bob… the time for debating is long past. After seeing their wages stagnant for 4 decades, their countries inundated by mass immigration, and the elites making off like bandits, the many are determined to show the few that actions have consequences.

  73. Ahoy says:

    The legacy of France

  74. @Mike P

    Bob Rae joins a long list of ’68er types who are proving themselves to be just as reactionary as any retired colonel they may have mocked fifty years ago. Bob Rae and Michael Ignatieff’s social circles likely overlap quite a bit, so he’d be getting lots of news about Victor Orban’s fight with George Soros’ Central European University. That’s just one reason he’d decide the Yellow Vest peasants are revolting.

  75. @Noel

    Regarding ‘fuel prices’ as the ‘reason’ to start the gilets jaunes – yellow vests protests

  76. I am so proud that the French Yellow Vest Patriots are ignoring that horrible anti-White shyster rat that uses the name Berny Henry Levy.

    That Berny Henry Levy guy is an anti-White shyster Jew who never misses a chance to attack White Christians and patriotic French men and women.

    That 1968’er dirtbag Berny Henry Levy is just like the red diaper baby crowd of Communist Jews in the United States that have infested the media, academia, finance, advertising and government rackets in the USA.

    The French people should deport Berny Henry Levy to sub-Saharan Africa.

    White Core Americans should deport the anti-White and anti-Christian Jew element in the USA. Regular Jews can stay, the nation-wrecking globalizer Jews who push globalization, financialization, mass immigration, multiculturalism and wars for Israel should be deported.

    VIVE LA FRANCE! VIVE LA YELLOW JACKETS!

    • Replies: @annamaria
  77. ikeo says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “Democracy ended in the EU member states in 2005”
    Real democracy never really existed in France. But their last piece of sovereignty was stolen in January 1973 through the Giscard law that delivered the French State into the hands of the usurers. Since then, like many others countries, they became debt slaves. When you reach that state, the subject of democracy becomes irrelevant.

  78. Art says:

    A useful summation of the situation this weekend.

    Fall of Empires: London, Washington & Paris on brink of collapse (by George Galloway)

    Despite the thrashing around of the NATO disinformation apparat, the imperial heartland has entered 2019 in a state of complete chaos.

    Washington, London, and Paris – the three capitals of the Empire – are today effectively ungoverned, shutdown, tottering on the brink of collapse or under siege by their own people.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/448381-fall-empires-washington-london-paris/

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  79. I was wondering when Diana was going to comment on the gilets jaunes situation in France! Good to hear from her again …

    Also, as a general rule, when it comes to France, the Anglophone media often get it wrong.

    These days the Anglophone MSM get just about everything wrong. They’re a full-on fake-news media.

    BTW, for those who haven’t seen it yet, here is the video of Christophe Dettinger pounding the crap out of the French riot police. Really mind-blowing!

  80. Platon says:
    @annamaria

    Because, in this case, the Mossad/CIA are the police.

  81. ababush says:
    @M Edward

    You are right. And a big problem is that the french administration is filled with masons, particularly at high level. The Interior ministry (Police) and the Justice ministry have always been devoted to known masons. Therefore, the fight of the yellow vest is against Banks/EU/OTAN, but also on a local level against (often zionists) masons who enjoy their controlling of the french state and will not let it go easily.
    The task is huge, but the arrogant government and medias made so many mistakes by trying to criminalize the movement in all possible ways, that the yellow vest are now outraged and will not back down.

    • Replies: @M Edward
  82. @ikeo

    What is REAL DEMOCRACY ?
    One may criticise the French voting system, but in my opinion France is not undemocratic.
    One may even say that the French trust democracy so much that al the last parliamentary elections just fifteen % of the voters took the trouble to vote.
    That Macron fooled them is not a matter of democracy, this happens in all democratic countries.
    What politicians do after elections is hardly ever the same as what they promised before the elections.

    • Replies: @ikeo
    , @AnonFromTN
  83. @Art

    Why does he not mention Berlin and Brussels ?

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Mike P
  84. Art says:

    There can be no question about it — it is the Rothschilds vs. the Serfs – Macron vs. the people – and Macron is getting mean.

    It is happening in France, the UK, and the US. Those countries are being run for the upper 20% of society, headed by the Jew central banks. By hook or crook the bankers control the legislature, the media, and the state executive institutions.

    It is clear, there is no argument, middleclass wealth is being siphoned off into the hands of the elite. As interest baring money systems mature, that is what happens.

    A guillotine system that slices of money from the superrich and gives it to government is not the answer.

    The wealth belongs with its creators and those who work – not the temple money changers and their owned politicians.

    We need a system that keeps wealth local – not a system that sends it off to DC, London, or Paris.

  85. roonaldo says:

    “It’s deja vu all over again.” Macron must be having Jupiterian wet dreams of re-creating the end to “the Jacquerie” revolt of 1358. May the Gilets Jaunes turn the tables on that bloodsucker and on whom and what he represents.

  86. @Alfa158

    Very weird comment.
    In the good old days revolutions were the insurrection of ordinary citizens against the government, a government defended by police and military forces.
    What more than half the French want is not a bloody fight, but Macron stepping down, with his ruling clique.

    Then what is the question.
    Unable to see French military and police shooting at their own citizens.
    The clashes now between protesters and police etc are not clashes with ‘decent’ citizens, but with habitual ‘casseurs’, as they’re called in France, those that love to destroy.
    Police and military to a large extent agree with the protesters, though strikes and demonstrations by police are not allowed legally, there already were demonstrations.

    This is one of the big questions for me, at some point in time Macron will understand that he must step down, but what then ?
    The Yellow Vest movement is clearly anti EU.

    What will Brussels and Merkel do, and with what ?
    Brussels has no police, has no army.
    That Merkel’s opinion will interest the French, no way.
    German troops to France, forget it, the Germans will refuse to go, if they go, French generals will not let them in.
    What will happen in this power vacuum, I really have no idea.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  87. M Edward says:
    @ababush

    Yeah, I hope they just keep on hammering away. It may be their only chance…..

    • Replies: @annamaria
  88. Art says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Why does he not mention Berlin and Brussels ?

    jilles,

    Their governments are stable – no riots – no government shut downs – no Brexit hanging over their heads????

    You cannot say that about the France, US, or UK.

    In the article he addresses each country.

    Art

  89. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    French President and French people – in 2003 were demonized by the Ziocons , were lambasted by thief known as Lantos also a Ziocon .
    Despite the popularity of anti war sentiment despite the passion against any preemptive war throughout France, the next election brought bastard Jew sucker like Sarkozy and then this Macron.

    How does the democracy work? It doesn’t not. It is betrothed to the globalist

  90. ikeo says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Real democracy is what the word “democracy” really means etymologically: the power is own by the people. Voting is not democracy, it only allows the people to choose between Master A and Master B. The semantic confusion is purposely entertained by the media. By wrongly defining concepts, people are being fooled and remain incapable to react, prisoners as they are of a word, although it never translates into reality. The Western representative political systems are not democracies and are not under the people’s control, but under money control. As early as 1918, Oswald Spengler defined democracy as the weapon of money. Democracy implies full sovereignty, no political parties, no professional politicians and the laws must be voted directly by the people. And above all, the constitution must be written by the people, in order to contain the protective power to control and dismiss the representatives, if they fail to serve the people.

  91. densa says:
    @lysias

    I think that’s a good idea (only from the registered voter population, not the whole). Senators could be elected by state legislatures, and the House could be actual people chosen by lottery to serve.

    If you’ve ever sat on a jury, you know 12 people can wade through quite a bit with pretty good results. The bonus is that every voter would know it was possible they would be called to serve. It would tend to make people pay attention and learn more about the system.

    Sure, you’d get some crackpots, but we’ve already got them. Few of them would be beholden to our special interest in the ME, so that’s a plus. Honestly, I don’t see how they could do any worse than the cadavers running the place today.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Wizard of Oz
  92. densa says:
    @Olivier1973

    Agree! (Used my agreeableness allotment for the hour!)

  93. Cyrano says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Send them US made weapons – like the ones that won the war for the Russians in WW2. It’s a proven recipe for success, I am telling you.

  94. Mike P says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Why does he not mention Berlin and Brussels ?

    Because they are on the opposite end of the puppet strings.

  95. Cyrano says:

    Charles Manson thought that he deciphered the upcoming apocalypse from the Beatles song “Helter Skelter”. I don’t want to sound Mansonchistic (I don’t even like pain), nor do I aspire to sound Mansianic (I can’t even save myself, let alone others), but I think something similar is happening in present time with the French yellow vests.

    I think it’s a prophecy that can be found in the Coldplay song “Yellow”. Apparently that rock band knew that the apocalypse is coming – they wrote a song about it, the lyrics are a coded message about the approaching apocalypse.

    Here is the course of action that I propose: The Coldplay members should be rounded up, and if necessary beat the s*it out of them, to make them confess what their prophecy is all about – i.e. how the yellow vest movement is going to end. I think this is the most sensible course of action that the French government could undertake under these circumstances.

    • LOL: niceland
    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  96. truthman says:

    FWIW, Francois Fillon, who at one point was the front runner for the presidency, called for a series of referenda on various issues, one of them immigration. A manufactured scandal against him helped pave the way for Macron to win, though I don’t think Fillon was truly a nationalist populist type, but at least preferable to Macron.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @republic
  97. Thim says:
    @obwandiyag

    When they say markets they mean the banks. A handful of billionaire jews.

    • Agree: Ace
  98. Sowhat says:
    @lysias

    FROM what group are the lots drawn? The WHOLE population, including the idiots?

  99. @jilles dykstra

    What politicians do after elections is hardly ever the same as what they promised before the elections.

    Don’t you see that this statement means that electoral “democracy” is no more than a ruse? A meaningless song and dance to entertain the population. The “circuses” part of “beard and circuses”. In a word, 100% fraud.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Tsigantes
  100. Ever since Margaret Thatcher decreed that “there is no alternative”, Western economic policy is made by technocrats for the benefit of financial markets, claiming that such benefits will trickle down to the populace

    It uses economic sanctions, overwhelming propaganda and military force (NATO) in a “globalization” project that shapes people’s lives without their consent.

  101. @densa

    Doing better than current system is not such a huge achievement. It is hard to do worse.

  102. @truthman

    That’s not saying much. My right shoe is preferable to Macron. My left shoe is preferable to Macron. None of my shoes is a Rothschild puppet.

  103. … it is a revelation of the real nature of “the system”. Power lies with a technocracy in the service of “the Markets”, meaning the power of finance capital. This technocracy aspires to remake human society, our own societies

    TEKNOCRASSIE: ”Un âge d’humains sans coeur, de sang froid et de malheur, car l’homme sera réduit, à toutes les sciences assujetti”:

  104. Wally says:
    @Gary

    – More Communist nonsense, and you’re still not talking about a free market economy.
    Your fake strawman arguments just keep on coming.

    “How anyone can justify the continued pillage of the planet with it’s attendant human suffering based in the destruction of democracy is beyond me.”

    – Here we go with “global cooling”, then switched to “global warning”, then switched to “climate change” then switched to “pillage of the planet”. LOL

    – How has a truly free market economy ‘destroyed democracy’?
    Silence.

    – It’s the lack of that freedom which is destroying democracy, where Big Gov picks the winners & losers, where Big Gov robs workers of their pay to support Big Gov’s violent agenda.

    – You’re engaging in hilarious, confused and desperate Marxist double speak, per Orwell. Communism is the most failed system of governance the world has ever seen yet you support it. How’s your ‘new Venezuela’ doing? LOL

    “a global system that has left the five richest people on earth with as much wealth as the bottom one-half of earth’s entire human population.”

    – Please tell us how those five guys infringed upon your rights. What have they done that proves a free market economy doesn’t work?
    I’m calling you out. We want facts not loserville Communism.

    You’re all bluster.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  105. Wally says:
    @ikeo

    And the last piece of free speech ended with the Fabius-Gayssot Act of 1990.

    Where free speech and scrutiny of the fictitious ‘holocaust’ was banned because the ridiculous and impossible narrative & scam cannot withstand free speech & scrutiny.

    Originating in Zionist run France, it is now the norm in the totalitarian EU.
    see:
    French Courts Punish Holocaust Apostasy: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n2p14_Weber.html
    much more here:
    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=Fabius-Gayssot+Act

    Only lies require censorship and imprisonment of those who engage in free speech.
    http://www.codoh.com

    Thanks.

  106. JMaciber says:
    @Diana Johnstone

    the monetary question among French opponents to the EMU and advocates of a return of full monetary sovereignty is the assumption that it would allow the French state to monetize its deficits outside of international financial markets ( in France, this BDF privileged was terminated in 1973 , much before the advent of the “snake” and then the EMU); doubled with the presumption that the recovered ability to devalue currency unilaterally would prime the trade pump, genrate trade surpluses, create employment and reindustrialization, totally forgetful of the economic reality that retaliatory devaluations are usually the result . This would recreate the old world classical currency wars within an area spared this past 20 years +.

    • Replies: @Tsigantes
    , @ababush
  107. Anon[360] • Disclaimer says:

    Three years later, the National Assembly – that is, politicians off all parties – voted to adopt virtually the same text, which in 2009 became the Treaty of Lisbon.

    Ireland REFUSED to ratify the Treaty of Lisbon. Then Sarkozy and his friends asked Ireland to vote again, i.e. to say Yes to Lisbon. They had ZERO respect for the initial decision of the Irish, which was NO to the Lisbon treaty. ZERO respect for ”democracy”.

    ”THE EUROPEAN UNION

    We recognise the danger of the growing European Union becoming a world superpower in its own right. […]

    Republican Sinn Féin has opposed full membership of the EU from the outset as a highly centralised political and economic power-bloc where decisions about our lives are taken in completely undemocratic institutions. Our struggle has been to manage our own affairs and our programme is for maximum power at the base. That is real democracy and the very opposite of EU imperialism.

    Under the EU our resources (eg fish) are being taken. The EU bureaucrats are doing well on their large salaries and so are the big farmers. But the plan is to wipe out the small farmers and restructure industry so that the EU centre can prosper at our expense.

    In agriculture far from the promised guaranteed level, milk, cattle and sheep prices are down. New standards for milk collection are being brought in to force the small farmer out. We can expect these processes to increase further. Irish neutrality is under sustained threat.”

    From: rsf.ie

  108. The French yellow vest are the bravest people on the face of the earth right now. Viva la France!!!
    This ones for you..

  109. Anon[360] • Disclaimer says:

    MONSTERS

    68. The intention of the European Union to develop a common European army is obvious.

    46. Since concerns over Irish neutrality and European militarisation were a key reason for voting No in the first referendum, according to the Irish Times and TNS surveys in May and June 2008, why should the Irish people accept the Lisbon treaty take two?

    35. The increased militarisation of Europe is of great concern to many people who would prefer to see Ireland retain neutrality. In the referendums on Nice , Ireland was assured that a European Army would never happen, but now the basis for a common defence policy and EU battlegroups are in place. Lisbon looks toward a ‘progressive framing of a common Union defence policy’.

    100. Democracy.

    Ireland’s 100 Reasons to Vote ‘No’ to the Lisbon treaty

    The European Journal
    Tuesday, September 1, 2009 | Jim McConalogue
       
    https://europeanfoundation.org/irelands-100-reasons-to-vote-no-to-the-lisbon-treaty/

  110. Platon says:

    Quite simply put, the EU is the Fourth Reich.
    The Five Eyes + Israel are the hand in the sock-puppet.

  111. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:

    Given that the French Republic is ontologically rooted in a protest that is precisely parallel to that of the Yellow Vests, one could make the argument that Macron lacks a viable moral defense and should step down in response: thankful that this is not one hundred years or so prior and thus that he gets to keep his head.

    French politicians should always respect the prospect of the people’s razor, in moral and nationalist principle if not as a realistic outcome.

    Second, the Jewish belief system holds in its doctrine that the souls of all non-Jews to be that of the animal and nothing more. Its fundamentally hostile to Europe and all other nations.

    Any of its defenders are fundamentally hostile to Europe. This spiritual supremacy is responsible for the Jewish behavior that has led to the vast majority of Jewish-involved conflict. Macron is a traitor for attempting to use the anti-semitism charge as a cudgel. All Jews should relocate themselves to Israel as soon as possible, a mass relocation which was a fundamental justification for the creation of that State. Its about time that all that was sacrificed for its maintenance take its payment.

    The Antifa scum are extralegal internationally supported shadow oppression against all non-Jewish nations in the West. They are only exist to help enforce the anti-foreign-national political ends of the Jews as described throughout their Torah. They can and will be dealt with as such.

    • Agree: Ilyana_Rozumova
  112. Anon[360] • Disclaimer says:

    – Le Mercosur, nouvelle source de tensions entre la France et l’Union Européenne
    – CETA : la France tente d’obtenir l’appui du Canada
    – MERCO-SCAM – How the EU-Mercosur Free Trade Agreement would encourage illicit financial flows

    ”This is the latest in a series of studies commissioned by the European Parliament’s European United Left/Nordic Green Left (GUE/NGL) looking into EU taxation, with the focus shifting onto the problems that could arise under a free trade agreement between the EU and the Mercosur, MEFTA.

    Written by three Argentines – financial crimes investigator Magdalena Rua plus economists Martin Burgos and Verónica Grondona – “MERCO-SCAM – How the EU-Mercosur Free Trade Agreement would encourage illicit financial flows” exposes the great potential for tax dodging and other illicit financial flows should a deal be concluded between the EU and Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay.”

    https://www.bilaterals.org/?merco-scam-how-the-eu-mercosur

  113. “The single overriding demand of the movement: the Citizens’ Initiative Referendum (CIR)”, which exists in Switzerland, Italy and California.

    The question is do the governments of Switzerland, Italy and California respect the will of the working class? No.

    The truth is CIR is just another nice-sounding, toothless reform that’ll come to nothing.

    If Dianna Johnstone’s reporting here is accurate it doesn’t take a genius to see where this GJ is going.

    This demand was probably injected into the GJ movement by undercover government agents, who will keep agitating for it until an ideal moment arrives whereby Macron will concede to it.

    The media will spin it as “Victory for GJ! Macron Concedes to CID Demand!”

    Many protestors will fall for the ruse and go home. The protestors who are sharp enough to see through the charade will continue. Eventually they will be mopped up by the police.

    Dianne Johnstone seems to support the demand. Hmm.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  114. @Anon

    I think you’re pretty spot here.
    I suspect Australians could be convinced to vote for a republic if Republicans could present a single solid well argued case: never ending debate over the merits of a direct election of a “president”, or an election by parliament, or by the government of the day & so on leave people confused & ultimately nervous. Faced with uncertainty on such a political fundamental, people incline to the status quo — even if, in their hearts, a Republic is their real wish.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
  115. annamaria says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    The slob is not over-educated — the slob’s general intelligence is not robust enough to allow him to become a thinker of any significance. The only competitor to the slob’s mediocrity is the gargoyle (and war criminal and France-wrecker) on the left.

  116. @onebornfree

    “the basic delusion that men may be governed and yet be free.”
    The so-called delusion disappears when you realise that neither “govern” nor “free” are absolutes. Both are complex & dynamic, admitting of possibly infinite degree, quality & interaction.
    Interestingly, at the individual level, one could argue that self governance is the basis, if not essence, of personal freedom.

    • Agree: Miro23
  117. annamaria says:
    @M Edward

    The demonstrators should use the power of the word and call the movement “French Spring.” Time to give the globalist cannibals a black eye.

  118. @joeshittheragman

    The next step on the path of “wising up” is that it doesn’t matter if the holocaust was a hoax or not.
    Quite simply, the holocaust has been a blank cheque, drawn upon for so long it’s become totally threadbare. Nothing can justify the shenanigans of Israel & the infinite conceit, duplicity, hypocracy & self entitlement of its supporters — & certainly not the questionable events of over 70 years in the past.

  119. Miro23 says:

    A good article. The Yellow Vests feel themselves becoming poorer.

    And one of the major organizations making them poorer is in fact French, and was being enthusiastically greeted this weekend by working people around Europe.

    The organization is Decathlon, the world’s largest sports goods retailer. It owns 1414 big box stores in 45 countries averaging 4,000m2 retail space each (located on main arterials that can be reached by at least 250,000 people within 20 minutes or less). It employs 87.000 staff, with an own brand lines of reasonable quality, well designed sports clothing/equipment (one or two brands for each individual sport) and it’s a budget one stop shop for its sector.

    IMO it’s a microcosm of the problem at the French, European and world level.

    For example, the retail assistants are all minimum wage young people, and the globalized manufacturing is all minimum wage Asian women. The European employees have no chance of getting a real living wage and the Asian girls live and work in conditions equivalent to slavery.

    German newspaper Zeit, wrote about one of these workers in Sri Lanka (changing her name for her own safety) in the article, “Sewing on an Empty Stomach” https://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/2017-12/decathlon-working-conditions-production-textiles-asia-english

    Milanti, in any case, has just finished a 12-hour shift at one of the 12 Decathlon suppliers in Sri Lanka, and she has no claim to vacation time or sick pay.

    As she does every day, Milanti walked the 1.5 kilometers to work after spending the night with her husband and children in the same bed. The family lives in a so-called boarding house, huge numbers of which have sprung up outside the multiple free trade zones in Sri Lanka, providing shelter to the army of workers. They tend to be little more than barracks with tiny rooms in which residents sleep and cook. The area around Katunayake, near the Colombo airport, or near Wathupitiwela, located not far away, is full of such boarding houses.

    Many of the beds are shared. When one woman heads of for a nightshift, another who has just arrived home lies down to get some sleep. The boarding houses don’t have bathing facilities, with Milanti having washed herself with water from an outside well and a tiny piece of soap. Shower gel is much too expensive for the family.

    Even in good months, Milanti’s wages from the Decathlon supplier hardly amount to more than 150 euros (172 dollars). A quarter of that total goes to rent and electricity, with an additional quarter going to childcare, with school ending in early afternoon.

    So is anyone making a living wage in Decathlon?

    Well, each brand has a dedicated team of designers and testers, who produce good products, and who at least live in nice places. The leading Decathlon ski brand, Wed’ze, has a design studio in the Haute-Savoie (which employs 70 people). https://www.wedze.co.uk/blog/wedze-inside-haute-savoie-region-birthplace-wedze-products

    Also, outsourcing needs plenty of sophisticated logistics so there are going to be some well paid people there along with financial people to handle the billions of Euros in cash flow.

    But basically the money arrives with the 0,1% elite billionaire private owners, and the next question is, who has more influence with the elite EU bureaucratic leadership, them or the mass of European unemployed?

    Prior to the internet, digitalization and globalization, European sports good were developed and manufactured in Europe, in some cases providing a tradition livelihood to towns and villages in the poorer regions. Skills and capital were passed down through generations to make some excellent products which are now gone – with the work places abandoned or converted into rows of Chinese import warehouses.

    If the EU elite wasn’t allied with the globalist elite, they could for example tell Decathlon that they have to manufacture in Europe is they want to sell in Europe. The result would be a boost for European employment with higher priced sports goods (and less sales and profits) and Decathlon scouring Europe for the lowest cost sourcing.

    But, at least the money would stay in Europe, and the principle could be applied to the other industrial sectors that are all going the same way.

  120. tac says:

    For those who would like to witness the events of Act IX (scroll past my posts if you uninterested).
    Here is a series of events as captured by the Yellow Vest movement:
    In case you hear that the crowd size was small by the MSM, look here at the Yellow Vests in various cities across France.

    Massive crowds for Act IX:


    [MORE]

    • Replies: @densa
  121. tac says:

    Massive crowds for Act IX (continued pt. 2):

    [MORE]

  122. @Wally

    Criticism of capitalism, markets etc = (naturally) communism. Introducing communism in this manner is a strawman.
    “How has a truly free market economy ‘destroyed democracy’?
    Silence.”
    “Free” markets are mythical. There are (arguably) markets: some more, some less regulated. “Free” market is ideological shorthand for “market regulated to produce maximum benefit for an elite class”. Business people love government interference — when it benefits them.
    It’s perfectly OK to blame big Gov’ for society’s ills if you remember that the line between big Gov & big Money is nebulous to the point of being a mere handy concept.
    Incidentally, global warming is but one of a host of problems facing the planet: ocean acidification, massive dead zones & plastic islands, the dramatic decline of insect numbers (& pollinators inparticular), deforestation & etc etc. So even if global warming is a hoax there are still enough problems to be going on with…assuming that anyone gives a shit….

    • Agree: Miro23
  123. anon[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @animalogic

    said:

    I suspect Australians could be convinced to vote for a republic if Republicans could present a single solid well argued case: never ending debate over the merits of a direct election of a “president”

    Yet the usual suspects have been pushing a Republic here for the last 35 years, at least, yet they still haven’t been able to come up with that ”single solid well argued case”.
    Just out of interest,would you care to suggest what that case might look like?

  124. @AnonFromTN

    No.
    People are not stupid.
    One can fool a lot of people for a long time, but not anyone all the time.
    I must admit that the present French insurrection is late, already in 2005 the French rejected the EU.
    On the other hand, French presidents since 2005 behaved cautiously, not the abrupt ‘modernising’ of Macron.
    That Macron became president, the two anti EU candidates are at odds about immigration, how weak his basis was was made clear in the first round, he got six of the ten votes, Mélenchon and Le Pen tohether four.
    Democracy functions

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  125. @densa

    What, in your experience and observation of human nature and human affairs makes you think the average citizen would pay enough attention with enough exertion of intellect to learn anything that seriously mattered about the system of representative plus bureaucratic government just because he became aware that there was some small chance that he would be called to serve as legislator? Does the average citizen who has not been called for jury service but might be try and learn anything about the jury system? Before conscripts were called up for past wars did they think they had a lot to learn about the armed forces and go out of their way to learn it?

    Perhaps call 5000 of whom 500 are needed and then, as part of the culling process, offer them a course of study and require them to get 80 per cent of questions right when tested on it….

    • Replies: @densa
  126. @animalogic

    It seems unlikely that even Prince Charles would be thought a sensible choice as GG now so it should be everyone’s logical expectation that the PM (and Cabinet) would want to choose a GG that would make the country and the government look good. The evidence doesn’t give much support for that though the misjudgments or misfortunes of PMs have been various from the vainglorious android often drunk John Kerr appointed by Labor’s Whitlam to the seemingly excellent choice of Peter Hollingworth by John Howard whose handling of deviant clergy when Archbishop didn’t fit the fast moving fashions. There will sometimes be a tendency to appeal to a minority or interest group by appointing an Aborigine or an activist woman on the calculation that those who don’t like the choice won’t care much but, on the whole we should count on PMs not wanting to be associated with someone who was an embarrassment. I suppose some longserving public servant would usually draw attention to the need to inquire into the spouse’s drinking and spending habits….

  127. @jamestommy

    Many protestors will fall for the ruse and go home. The protestors who are sharp enough to see through the charade will continue. Eventually they will be mopped up by the police.

    Anybody can have his expectations.
    What now happens in France is not exclusively French.
    Anywhere in EU member states nationalist parties are emerging, I expect my Netherlands to be ungovernable after the March elections.
    The Belgian government limps on after Marrakech was signed.
    Brexit or no Brexit, about half the British population wants to be liberated from Brussels.
    The row between Brussels and the E European countries about admitting Muslim immigrants is escalating.

    How tensions inside countries are escalating we just saw in Bremen, Germany.
    An AfD party politician was nearly beaten to death.
    ‘Mopped up by the police’, how does one mop up 85.000 people, yesterday’s official, thus low, estimate of demonstrators in France ?
    Mopping up by a police sympathising with the demonstrators, how ?

    Where all this will lead to, I do not know.
    But, as I wrote here quite a few times already, at the end of the twenties in the Weimar Republic a politician emerged who promised to lead the German people out of the Versailles desert
    We just need a politician who promises to lead us out of the globalisation and EU desert, to change history now.

  128. Alligator says:
    @Heros

    There is no price for crossing a jew. They will try to extract a price as always, right? But there is no price… We are just human.

    • Replies: @Heros
  129. Tsigantes says:
    @jilles dykstra

    ‘cooked’ = the filleting of Francois Fillon, the most popular candidate by leaps and bounds and most probable winner, by exaggerated and false claims and an unrelenting media campaign against him.

  130. Tsigantes says:
    @peterAUS

    Athenian style democracy works very well using the Swiss model, whose basic parts i.e. neutrality, citizen army, cantons, were actually formulated by the – (little known fact warning!) – the great Greek statesman Capodistrias with an independent Greece in mind.

    It is a mistake to confuse size with efficacy. A country may have a huge population, yet all that is important is that the cantonal units are small enough to reflect that area’s popular will. So the USA has 350 million citizens? Let it have 1000 cantons of 350,000 pop. – or 500 cantons of 700,000. As with the 50 states of USA laws vary between cantons in Switzerland dependent on the will of the people.

    The same mistaken assumption is made about voter ballots in USA. The answer is to make voting districts sufficiently small so that the paper ballots can be counted in maximum 2 hours….as is done in most of the rest of the world. Hardly rocket science!

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @peterAUS
  131. @ikeo

    Would you care to explain what you mean by Giscard’d 1973 law delivering the country into the hands of the usurers resulting in debt slavery.

    It led me to look up the rate of inflation before the Euro was introduced. From 1956 to 1986 the French currency appears to have lost about 94 per cent of its value. It looks to me as though France continued for a long time after 1973 inflating its way out of the debt slavery problem. But no doubt that is not the whole story and you can explain why not.

    • Replies: @ikeo
  132. Tsigantes says:
    @AnonFromTN

    What politicians do after elections is hardly ever the same as what they promised before the elections.

    Don’t you see that this statement means that electoral “democracy” is no more than a ruse?

    What you mean is representative democracy, not ‘electoral’. Its the representatives that are the problem.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  133. Tsigantes says:
    @JMaciber

    Another strawman argument:

    This would recreate the old world classical currency wars within an area spared this past 20 years +.

    And so what? The rest of the world have their own currencies – as we did before – and get along just fine.

  134. Heros says:
    @Alligator

    “We are just human.”

    The Talmud says that only Jews are human and that goyim are mere animals. I am of European extraction with portions of English, German and French. I simply don’t buy into this “human race” jewish propaganda.

    I do like your user name though…

    Sleepy alligator in the noonday sun
    Sleeping by the river just like he usually done
    Call for his whisky
    He can call for his tea
    Call all he want to but he
    Can’t call me

    [MORE]

    Oh no
    I been there before
    And I’m not coming back around
    There no more

    Creepy alligator coming all around the bend
    Talking bout the times when we was mutual friends
    I check my memory
    I check it quick yes I will
    I check it running
    Some old kind of trick…

    Alligator was also the name of one of Jerry’s stratocasters:

    http://www.rareelectricguitar.com/W-851-Jerry+Garcia+Guitar.html

  135. @Wally

    There are no real free markets, and that’s the problem.

    “Free markets” is an oxymoron, and the fact that so many don’t understand that is “the problem.” Markets are regulated by society (some form of government). Without money, markets don’t exist, just barter. Either government creates money, or the most common currency will control government. Without standards of weights and measures, there are no honest markets. Some authority must certify a merchant’s weights and measures. “Free markets” are a figment of imagination.

  136. @Cyrano

    “The Coldplay members should be rounded up, and if necessary beat the s*it out of them, to make them confess what their prophecy is all about –”

    They have no idea what it’s all about. Still, I’m fully on board.

  137. TFS says:
    @jilles dykstra

    If I’m not mistaken, to win this or to get your point across is to ‘Play the Game’. A playing the game in a Capitalist society is all about the $, £……..

    Israel, knows what the game is, it’s called BDS and it’s go them so scared, they are trying to make it illegal in America.

    The Israeli/Palestian issue is solvable, but without SpartUSAs clutsy feet and money. The people have the ability to challenge Israel and the anti BSD movement by pulling why I call a MRL/Ghandi double team.

    It’s a couch potatoes wet dream.

    That $ in your pocket is the greatest daily voting right you have.

    Don’t buy Coke, Don’t use Facebook, Don’t use Amazon, Don’t use Google.

    OH, THEY’LL HEAR!

    Problem is, people have gone beyond being couch potatoes….they just dont care!

  138. @Tsigantes

    Yes, you right, it is “representative”. Then again, if you elect, it means that someone else is supposed to represent you (which s/he never does), so in a way electoral and representative is the same thing.

  139. @jilles dykstra

    You just confirmed that every nation has the government it deserves. If Europeans sincerely believe that “democracy functions”, they deserve the “democracy” they have now. I had better opinion of Europeans. Apparently, I was wrong.

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @jilles dykstra
  140. Heros says:
    @Wally

    Tim Kelly and Joe Atwell recently made a podcast about this:

    The Free Trade Myth
    https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/tkelly6785757/episodes/2019-01-05T11_48_31-08_00

    They conclude that Adam Smith was a freemason, and that all this “Magic Hand” of “free trade” is really just a precursor to Crowley’s “Do what thou wilt”.

    • Replies: @apollonian
  141. @Tsigantes

    That won’t change anything unless money is taken out of politics. It does not matter how big or small the district is as long as candidates are getting money from those who have a lot of it. So, no honest person has a chance, as nobody will give him/her money. Corrupt people have an advantage: the donors give because they rightly expect payback. Thus, the key is to make all campaigns financed to exactly the same limit and prohibit any additional sources of financing. In this case even 50 states would work better than they do now.

    • Replies: @densa
  142. ababush says:
    @JMaciber

    So let’s go with Macronomic?
    Better to try to do something different, because the present methodology applied since 1983 has proven to be a disaster for the french economy.
    You know Albert Einstein said “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”.

  143. republic says:
    @truthman

    Interesting regarding that political scandal called Penelopegate. I recall that such scandals were used in Obama’s rise to power. All opponents were smeared with something. One got his divorce records unsealed.

  144. ikeo says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The 1973 law abolished the money sovereignty of the country and forced the State to borrow from private banks. Before 1973, the central bank was providing money to the State at 1% interest. In 1973 the debt was about 18% of GDP. Today France has a debt of 2300 billion Euro (101% GDP) and has to pay about 55 billion per year in interests. Before 1973, the interests of the debt were recycled within the country, as citizens could benefit from it: many had their savings in remunerated government bonds. Today, all this money is leaving the country and the people must pay for it through taxes.

    • Agree: apollonian
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  145. Mike P says:
    @AnonFromTN

    You just confirmed that every nation has the government it deserves.

    Most countries are small and have their governments foisted on them by some external great power. If they dare to change them, they will get liberated by that great power. So, “wise” leaders of small countries will just avoid upsetting the apple cart and just play along so as to avoid being liberated. This is how “leaders” like Merkel and Macron manage to look in the mirror while shaving – “sure, I am a despicable opportunist, but I only sacrifice my honour in my people’s best interest.”

    Of course you know this – you are just trolling, as usual.

    • Replies: @anonymoys
    , @AnonFromTN
  146. peterAUS says:
    @Tsigantes

    Athenian style democracy works very well using the Swiss model…

    And Switzerland is unique place on this planet. Plus it’s small, has specific history shaped by European, even world (ge0)politics.

    I have no intention in going in this debate, really. Had it on some courses/papers I had once upon a time.

    There is a pattern seen since start of recorded history: as an entity gets bigger and more (economically and militarily) powerful, the TRUE power tends to concentrate upwards.

    Back to “yellow vests”. It feels as incoherent expression of frustration.
    Granted, we are in uncharted waters so it might work. I am not optimistic.

    The cosmopolitan/managerial class is an expert in managing masses. By any means necessary. That’s their core specialty and purpose.

    I have a feeling that we are entering a phase of more frustration, more “management” and more chaos, everywhere in West.

    My take: if the frustration doesn’t get organized, with a clear vision, it will lose. It will be…”managed” and the show will go on.

    On practical level, “we” boast about that quality of the movement which has no leadership and that’ quality because it can’t be arrested, cooped etc.
    I guess I am the only guy here who strongly believes that’s, simply, load of crap Or, better, sure way to lose.

    Hehe….don’t bother, guys, with replies. Let’s just wait and see. Two things shall happen:
    The movement will get ORGANIZED, with clear vision.
    OR
    It will continue as it is, getting just more violent.

    If former, great.
    If later, boring.

    • Replies: @ababush
  147. Eventually EU will fall apart. Immediately after when French will leave.
    Germany will not be able to subside all those shitty little eastern European countries.
    It simply cannot go on forever.
    Eastern European countries will have to make it on their own.

  148. anonymoys says:
    @Mike P

    “Most countries are small and have their governments foisted on them by some external great power.”

    USA isn’t exactly a small country but as you certainly know it isn’t the american people who decide of their government but that “great external power” which is smaller than New Jersey.

    And imho the same applies to another big country (Russia) which in spite of propaganda and Syria, is controlled by the same state that controls usa.

    “So, “wise” leaders of small countries will just avoid upsetting the apple cart and just play along so as to avoid being liberated”

    You got that right. Switzerland is a very good example of that small country you’re talking about.

    France and Germany aren’t. Actually Merkel and Macron are working for that small country that tells usa what to do. They are not defending their people’s best interest. They’re well known traitors.
    Traitors like 99,5% of american politicians and journalists and scholars and…

    Of course you know this – Don’t you ?

    • Replies: @Mike P
  149. densa says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Okay, no doubt some limits would have to be placed on having a legislature made of The Public. If the current system could limit the effects of media and legalized bribery, maybe it could get better results than going to the telephone directory, but the Window needs moved over, so….

  150. Mike P says:
    @anonymoys

    France and Germany aren’t. Actually Merkel and Macron are working for that small country that tells usa what to do.

    You mean Israel. Yes, you do have a point there, but I didn’t want to go down that rabbit hole – we can consider both Israel and the U.S. parts of the “anglo-zionist empire”, which is the great power that lords it over most of Europe.

    • Replies: @anonymoys
  151. densa says:
    @tac

    Thanks! It’s so inspirational, which is no doubt why it is hidden.

    • Replies: @tac
  152. densa says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Now I agree with you. It’s the corrupting power of money, not the concept of representative democracy that needs fixed.

    The American people, the bases of both parties, have named this as a top problem and have wanted the money out of politics for decades. But in support of your criticism, NOTHING HAPPENED. Instead, we got a bipartisan auction house.

    I still think it is worth trying to fix rather than go to… what do you recommend?

    • Agree: tac
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  153. Macron is a treasonous rat politician whore for the Rothschild Bankers and the plutocrat globalizers.

    Macron is a clear and present threat to the national security interests of France.

    Macron pushes nation-wrecking mass immigration and financialization and globalization and Macron pushes for more war on behalf of Israel in the Middle East. Macron is a threat to the safety, security and sovereignty of France. Macron is an enemy of the French people.

    The French military must immediately begin preparations to remove the treasonous tyrant Macron from power.

    VIVE LA FRANCE — VIVE LA YELLOW VESTS!

    Rothschild Whore Macron attacks the proud and patriotic French people:

  154. anonymoys says:
    @Mike P

    ” we can consider both Israel and the U.S. parts of the “anglo-zionist empire”

    Russia is also part of the “anglo-zionist empire”, although the “good cop/bad cop” being played by the msm and alt-media may trick lots of people in thinking that Russia is an independent country.

    How about China ? I really don’t know. Maybe the chinese elite are only playing along with the zio-mafia but sometimes I believe the chinese really don’t care and never will care about the crimes committed outside their borders.

    Which may be reasonable and morally sound but which makes them also morally/politically/economically compatible with the ““anglo-zionist empire”

    • Replies: @Anon
  155. Would be interesting to see what soooooooooooooooo great philosopher Bernard Henry Levi think about this!

  156. Waitemata says:
    @onebornfree

    Spengler in Decline of the West said that ‘democracy could never be anything other than the political tool of money.’ He also said that all the French revolution did was to deliver France into the hands of the army and the Bourse.

  157. @ikeo

    It sounds as though France had been using what we would call Quantitative Easing today until 1973 and Giscard was attempting to impose discipline but that it didn’t have much effect on the money supply at first because the 18 per cent of GDP didn’t frighten the banks into limiting the debt finance to government. But why did inflation slow down after 1985, long before the Euro was introduced?

    What do you mean by “remunerated” government bonds? Do you mean inflation proof, indexed linked bonds? If not wasn’t government stealing from savers before 1973 (and after) by way of very high inflation?

    You seem to suggest government is no longer able to borrow so has to raise taxes. But that is simply not correct, is it? After all France continues to run a budget deficit which means that it has to borrow. So, if French private savers money is leaving the country other people’s money must be more than making up for it. N’est-ce pas?

    • Replies: @ikeo
  158. @Heros

    Smith’s “Invisible Hand” Refers To Natural Harmony Of Rationalism, Rule-Of-Law

    As I understand, the “invisible hand” of Smith meant that within the free market (Smith was against mercantilism, w. it’s tariffs and monopolies, etc.)–remember a market w. genuine RULE-OF-LAW working, in accord w. freedom and sanctity of contract–the participants all working for their self-interest would yet prosper one another “as if by an invisible hand”–such is the proper context and understanding of Smith and “invisible hand.”

    Note earlier, Bernard Mandeville (1705) wrote his “The Grumbling Hive” which similarly posed a thriving economy by means of participants all working for their simple self-interest, BUT in a rationalist fashion, governed by rule-of-law.

    And even earlier, both Thomas Hobbes and John Locke posed the larger political system governed by RATIONAL self-interest, their pt. being we’re all necessarily self-interested by nature, the thing now to being is most rationalistic in accord therewith, hence the rationalist social-contract.

    What thou art totally over-looking about Crowley is he pushed a gross self-INDULGENCE in DIS-REGARD for reason and rule-of-law, there being no rationalist rule-of-law for Crowley–total SUBJECTIVISM–whereas the aforementioned Englishmen (Smith fm Scotland) presumed the objective reality.

    Thy problem is whether Crowley’s ignoring reason and rule-of-law is really in harmony and accord w. self-interest; thou are confusing self-interest w. irrational self-indulgence–typical of subjectivists, subjectivism, and satanism.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Heros
  159. tac says:
    @densa

    Glad you like it! it shows that at least some here have a throbbing heart–unlike the disinfo trolls in utter contempt on this thread trying to sow discourse; they along with their masters are fully panicked–and they DESERVE TO BE PANICKING, for their influence is losing its hold on the people!

    Here is more info that your local news will NEVER cover (due to their subservience, greed, and short-sightness …. although their demise will be unceremonious and they’ll get what they deserve in the end!):

    [MORE]

    ***Note: click on blue Twitter bird in the Tweets in order to open videos in new tab***

    Elderly man/woman beaten by French riot Police:

    French Police caught red-handed disguised while trying to fit in with the crowd as Yellow Vests protesters:

    French Police clubbing Yellow Vest protester while he is down:

    Yellow Vests protester shot in the head with pellet (lower-right portion of video):

    MSM ‘journalists’ being booed by Yellow Vests:

    In what appears to be tear gas canisters dropped by helicopter Yellow Vests film footage:

  160. @densa

    It is clearly out of question that legislature full of bought and paid for people would ever adopt a law prohibiting “contributing” to them. It’s like expecting foxes to prohibit chicken meat.

    Thus, the choice is either a messy revolution (that Americans have no stomach for, at least not yet), or the move from the ground up: state referenda establishing state funding of campaigns at a certain level and prohibiting any spending above that, any donations, PACs, etc. When two-thirds of the states have that on the books, there is a chance to get through a constitutional amendment to this effect. It would still have to get through absolutely corrupt Congress, but the pressure would be on. Like I said, the only alternative is a messy and bloody revolution. Then it won’t limit itself to campaign finance.

  161. @Mike P

    Since when did Germany or France become small countries? They behave like inconsequential nonentities, like Latvia, Lithuania, or Estonia, but they do so by choice, not because they are small and insignificant. Countries with much smaller economies, like NK, Iran, Cuba, or Nicaragua, dare to defy the Empire.

    Not to mention that the Empire wouldn’t dare bring “democracy” on the heads of Germans or French in 500 kg TNT installments. That would be too revealing. They behave like vassals because their elites are corrupt to the core, not because the countries are small and helpless.

    • Agree: niceland
    • Replies: @Mike P
  162. ‘…The demand is for a certain number of signatories – perhaps 700,000, perhaps more – to gain the right to call a referendum on an issue of their choice. The right to a CIR exists in Switzerland, Italy and California…’

    In the case of California, this statement needs to be qualified.

    A measure can indeed be placed on the ballot if enough people sign the petition. The courts, however, will of course overturn the outcome if the measure passes.

  163. Joe Mack says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hava_Nagila

    This is an effective deterrent to antiSemitism claims.

    And it’s a pretty fun dance with a crowd of strangers.

  164. Mike P says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Since when did Germany or France become small countries?

    Since World War 2 – relative to the two remaining superpowers, that is. It doesn’t matter much that they are bigger than Latvia.

    Countries with much smaller economies, like NK, Iran, Cuba, or Nicaragua, dare to defy the Empire.

    Korea got destroyed. Iranian governments were overthrown repeatedly (even the Islamic revolution was engineered by the CIA, even though it did not work out as intended), and it was severely crippled in the proxy war in the 1980s. It is now increasingly being targeted precisely because it is rising again out of insignificance.

    Nicaragua and Cuba are indeed insignificant, both economically and strategically – they are merely being harassed, while also being contained. However, you can be sure that the response would be very different if Germany tried to pull something similar. Why do you think the Americans still have an occupation force there? You are just trying to be cute.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  165. There has been ZERO coverage of the Yellow Shirts in the main french media of Québec, the Journaldequebec.com Québec is France’s natural allie in Canada, through the Desmarais-Rothschild-BNP Paribas connection.

    (Journaldequebec.com is owned by independentist PK Péladeau. Its world division belonged to Lehman bro and former special envoyé in Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard Holbrooke, the dog of war who said that Bombing Serbia had been a good thing for Serbs).

    Oddly enough, if you try to access Journaldequebec.com, by hiding behind a fictive IP representing a European country, a message appears indicating that under a law voted by the European parliament, access to the site Journaldequebec.com is forbidden for European countries.

    WHY???

    Why can’t the French see what Journaldequebec.com says here about their protests? (That is why can’t the French see that these cowards refuse to cover the protests and remain totally silent?)

    Note: The crown-owned Radio-Canada (1.5 billions -year, taxpayer money), which supported the ”rebels” affiliated to Al-Nusra in Syria, and LFIG in Libya, and which remains TOTALLY SILENT on the war crimes committed by Bagot (220 laser-guided bombs dropped on Libya), is now covering (superficially) the Yellow Shirts. Some insipid paragraphs resembling (as usual) to copies of their friends, the hypocrites AFP and BBC. I still haven’t seen the 25 demands of the protestors listed by Radio-Canada. This radio station is total bullshit. They prefer to support rebels heavily armed by NATO in the Middle East that covering legitimate protests in France. That’s cowardice as usual. And as usual, they say Marine LePen is a racist, Russia is the demon, Teresa May is a grande dame though we still don’t know what really happened in the Skrispal affair (ie, WHO DID IT?)

  166. Bukowski says:

    The principle component of a democracy is free speech and they have not had that for decades in France. On July 13 1990 the law against holocaust revisionism went into effect. Free speech doesn’t exist in France.
    https://codoh.com/library/document/688/

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  167. @Mike P

    Since World War 2 – relative to the two remaining superpowers, that is. It doesn’t matter much that they are bigger than Latvia.

    You seem to ignore that the French empire controlled a large part of the world, just prior to WWII.
    The French navy was quite impressive at the time.
    Politically and economically Germany is far from small

    • Replies: @Mike P
  168. @apollonian

    accord w. freedom and sanctity of contract–the participants all working for their self-interest would yet prosper one another

    Yet the same Adam Smith knew quite well, and wrote this down, that in wage negotiations employees and employers were in quite unequal bargaining positions.

    • Agree: apollonian
  169. “as groups met to pour through the daunting legalistic documents”

    Excusez-moi, Diana – the word is “pore” –
    “pore (v.)
    “gaze intently,” early 13c., of unknown origin, with no obvious corresponding word in Old French. Perhaps from Old English *purian, suggested by spyrian “to investigate, examine,” and spor “a trace, vestige.” Related: Pored; poring.”

    • Replies: @Diana Johnstone
  170. @AnonFromTN

    Depends on what you define as ‘democracy functioning’.
    After the Lisbon Treaty of 2005 I’d expected resistance outside the democratic legal system earlier.

    The problem here in Europe is that we were accustomed to governments for us, not against us.
    Just recently, maybe half a year ago, an establishment politician at a congress of his party was shocked, that a part of the Dutch population, not a negligible part, now sees the government as enemy.

    Just in October 2017 FvD was established, a party of well educated Dutch, a party against the EU.
    So in my opinion democracy functions, but reactions to political changes take time, in the EU case giving the politicians the advantage of the doubt, after reality has sunk in it again takes time until someone decides to do something.

    This doing something is a risky business, as Janmaat and Fortuyn experienced.
    Janmaat ended in wheel chair, after an attack from leftists, Fortuyn was murdered.
    Wilders has 7/24 protection, he in fact lives in a prison.
    The Bremen attempted murder was a few days ago.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  171. ikeo says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    When I say “remunerated”, I mean that the people were making savings with a profit. Inflation was an average of 3.5% in the 1960 s. Today the popular “Livret A” in France gets 0.75% interest with an inflation of 1.85% in 2018.
    The government can borrow from the usurers, but not from its own population, as it was before the 1973 law. The state is selling off its assets, just like Greece was forced to. The population must pay the interests through taxes and since the debt keeps growing, the interests and the taxes have no other way than up. Compound interest is really the “eighth marvel of the world”, if you sit on the right side of it. The Japanese can manage with a debt of over 200% GDP, because most of their debt is held by the Japanese.

  172. Mike P says:
    @jilles dykstra

    all true, and all irrelevant to the question at hand.

  173. Heros says:
    @apollonian

    In the podcast I linked to, Joe Atwell makes the link between Adam Smith and Crowley. What I found most interesting was that Adam Smith was a freemason, likely very high level to boot. Many of us know that once masonry is involved, no event or explanation can be trusted or taken at face value. Everything has to be de-constructed for symbolism, numerology and hidden messages. I do not have the time, or the ability, to properly deconstruct Adam Smith’s work, but Joe Atwell has.

    In the period when Adam Smith was writing, various judaically and masonically owned mercantalist monopolies like the English east india company, Hudsons bay, Dutch east india had complete sway over world “markets”.

    So why would a cabal of hidden hand masonist’s have one of their brothers push “free markets” in his book about the power of the “hidden hand” of markets? Could it be because with the power provided by their already existing monopolies would allow them to get power over every market on the planet?

    A quick duckyduck returns:

    [MORE]

    “But, how can a simple book create a New World Order? Well, it all has to do with the way imperialism was imposed around the world. After the Seven Years’ War, from 1756 to 1763 (also known as the “First World War”, since it involved the whole of Europe, North America and part of Asia), Britain became the dominant empire throughout the world; gaining control over French and Dutch territories in North America and Asia. [7] It was after this war when Adam Smith began to promote his ideas for a new type of imperialism; arguing that it was far too costly to maintain a world colonial empire through military occupation, when those colonies could be given control of their own land while the empire could continue to exploit their richness and be looted just as before. [8] Adam Smith’s book was such a success that just one year later, in 1777, the British government was already shaping its policies based on his ideas; using the book as a guide to introduce new duties and taxes, designing commercial treaties, promoting free trade and credit, [9] and shifting from colonial imperialism to capitalist imperialism.

    This also meant that this New World Order could not only exploit and control colonies, but through its new economic system (capitalism) could actually exploit any other nation or empire. It also meant that power did not lay anymore on the hands of the aristocracy, but on the hands of those who controlled the economy.”

    http://judeo-masonic.blogspot.com/2010/09/hitlers-struggle-part-i-two-world.html

  174. @jilles dykstra

    That’s exactly what I mean. Widespread belief that the government is on your side is naïve, to put it mildly. It does not matter what form of government it is: ostensibly elected, monarchy, or dictatorship. The simple fact of it being government makes its interests vastly different from those of the population. I have to agree that the EU bureaucracy, which wields power without pretending to be elected, is an abomination even in smoke-and-mirrors “democracy” feeble-minded voters might believe in. However, it is just as subservient to the elites as “elected” governments, so no difference in substance.

    The fact that it takes so long for Europeans to put two and two together is hardly an extenuating circumstance. Your examples showing how dangerous it is to do something prove beyond reasonable doubt that the government and the interests it represents are hostile to the populace.

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  175. @ProudPrimate

    I know that. Have you never made a typo?

  176. ababush says:
    @peterAUS

    “My take: if the frustration doesn’t get organized, with a clear vision, it will lose. It will be…”managed” and the show will go on.”

    You are right, but one can also say that the movement understands this very well, and acts in such a way so that:
    – it prevents the managerial class to directly manipulate/manage it (the movement) by being disorganized
    – its goal is to set a tool (the popular referendum-RIC) that history proved the managerial class has a lot of problem to handle/manipulate (even when the medias are trusted, and the medias are now despised)

    If the RIC is obtained (with probably a higher level of violence), then all doors are opened, and various political movements will develop, in a brand new context (the movement has opened the eyes of millions of people about the real situation, and about the nature of the powerclass).

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  177. Anon[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymoys

    I think that’s basically correct. State exceptions to the NWO fold likely would be any nation who is extremely isolated, like N. Korea and Iran, or who is invaded. No nation that is outside of the fold avoids sanctions or invasion for long, Africa largely excluded (as the Africans have no problem defeating themselves).

    The Chinese genocided tens of millions of their own in order to get aboard the Jewish Communism train.

    China is a primary beneficiary of the post WWII NWO commercial and financial relations system that was created at Bretton Woods. We gave up most of our non-advanced manufacturing so that their nation could be built up. Our trade protection made their country. We would not give those things to a rogue state.

    It’s safe to say that the Chinese are on-board.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  178. peterAUS says:
    @ababush

    Agree.

    Let’s summarize, then:
    Phase/step one:
    The frustration gets expressed as a swarm, with one simple goal. Referendum, in this case, to change the game of politics. That creates the proper environment for phase/step two:
    Getting organized with a clear vision.

    Sounds promising.

  179. @Anon

    You are unbelievable optimist. Chinese did not even say thank you. You live in dreamworld.

  180. @AnonFromTN

    The simple fact of it being government makes its interests vastly different from those of the population

    I am Dutch, was born in WWII, have been politically interested all my life, both my parents were members of socialist organisations, so I think I have some idea about Dutch politics since say 1960.
    Until, say 2000, we had governments interested in common people, social security systems and policies, around 1980 the socialist government Den Uyl fell because it believed in what then was called ‘maakbare samenleving’, the intention to regulate even investments by commercial organisations, regulation based on what was seen as good for the average Dutchman.
    I realise that on a world scale this was the exception, but it was not much different in countries as Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
    Even French governments, though French politicians are an oligarchy, cared for the the common man, protectionism.
    Around 2000 this began to change, the EU ideals, illusions, whatever you want.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  181. @Bukowski

    Not just in France, in any country more or less controlled by jews.
    Maybe you can turn it around: in any country where holocaust doubts cannot be expressed there is jewish control.
    Often these also are the countries where doubt on the Armenian genocide is not allowed.
    Jews and Armenians support each other in this matter, as is made quite clear in
    Ralph Giordano, ‘Israel um Himmels willen Israel’, 1993 Köln
    Giordano is a German journalist and writer, who grew up in WWII, with a jewish mother.
    Ralph Giordano, ‘Die Bertinis’, Frankfurt a.M., 1982
    The novel is seen as largely autobiographic, I fear it may be close to the truth.
    On the other hand, the contrast with
    Victor Klemperer, ‘I will bear witness, A diary of the Nazi years, 1942-1945’, New York 1999 is incomprehensible.
    The whole Giordano family survived WWII, but it was a horrible period for them, as it was for Klemperer.

    • Replies: @Bukowski
  182. @jilles dykstra

    I know that getting rid of illusions is always painful. I had my illusions about Western democracy and media, all of which were wrong, as I found after moving to the US more than 27 years ago.
    Just ask yourself, how come the governments of all the countries you mentioned are acting against the interests of the populace for many years, yet keep being “elected”. That tells you all you need to know about representative “democracy”, “free” elections, “free” media, and other myths used to fool people. I have to acknowledge that Soviet authorities were more responsive to the needs and opinions of the populace than “democratic” governments today. Maybe that’s why those “democracies” worked so diligently against the Soviet Union, which was in the end betrayed and destroyed by its elite.

    There are no ideal social systems, but there are different shades of gray, some of which are decidedly black.

  183. I finally got around to reading my hard copy of this weeks The Economist. Two GJ pieces (one paragraph in the Charlemagne column and a news article.) Same talking points.

    1. The GJ’s are anti EU
    2. The GJ’s are anti immigration
    3. The GJ’s are anti gay marriage
    4. The level of taxation and redistribution in France is the highest of any country on earth; the GJ’s don’t know what they are complaining about (inference they are spoiled children and stupid)

    At least they didn’t accuse the GJ’s of being anti-semites!

    Well Macron more-or-less already did that one.

  184. Bravo Diana
    A very good analysis of what’s going on here.
    Don’t forgot that we have a long history of beheading traitors like macon.
    The fact that this YV movment has no leader is in fact what make it dangerous for macron.
    Nobody to subvert or buy.
    Yesterday about 300 000 people in the steets, and an approval rate of about 65%.
    Hope other in EU will join or set up their own revolt againts savage capitalism.

  185. Bukowski says:
    @jilles dykstra

    As you are Dutch are you familiar with the claim that Holland was not a genuine neutral in 1939-40 ? The German government issued a White Paper which stated that the Dutch military had strategic talks with their British counterparts and were prepared to allow British troops to march through Holland to attack Germany. It also stated that the Dutch government was allowing the RAF to use its airspace to bomb targets in Germany. This link includes info on a book in the Dutch language by Loe De Jong – https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=12153

  186. anarchyst says:

    As long as Europe exists under the American military and “nuclear umbrella”, its brand of “socialism” works. If Europe had to provide for its own defense, its “socialist utopia” would collapse.

  187. Deschutes says:

    Johnstone is da best! Hands down!

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