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Jazz saxophonist and writer Gilad Atzmon was recently banned from playing at an assembly hall in Islington, a borough of London, by order of the Islington Town Council. This came about as a result of an e-mail from one person — Martin Rankoff — saying nothing more than that if Atzmon was going to be at the venue on December 21 he would give a ticket that was given to him to someone else. Rankoff wrote, “Mr Atzmon’s news and beliefs I personally find repulsive and do not wish to be in the same place as him, let alone listen to his music.” Rankoff included links to ADL and Israeli news outlets accusing Atzmon of antisemitism. Incredibly, on the basis of this letter alone, the Islington Council went way out of its way and contacted the show’s promoter to get Atzmon banned — something Rankoff didn’t even ask for.

Imagine the situation in reverse: Gilad Atzmon writes a letter to the Council saying he is uncomfortable with Martin Rankoff appearing in the audience at Islington assembly hall. He refers to Mr. Rankoff’s pro-Israel Twitter page where Rankoff calls Jeremy Corbyn “A F***ing Antisemite and Racist” and where Corbyn is pictured on a bike with a comment suggesting Corbyn should be rammed by a car. Atzmon says that he doesn’t feel safe with Rankoff in the audience. He finds Mr. Rankoff’s support for Israel repulsive because Israel was founded on genocide against the people of Palestine. As proof he provides links to news reports on the slaughter of unarmed protestors in Gaza since March 30, 2018, and a story on the Deir Yassin massacre of 1948.

This imaginary second complaint would have been scorned as an abridgement of Rankoff’s rights. Indeed, since the Islington Council has adopted the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of antisemitism, in which criticism of Israel is deemed antisemitic, the Council would probably feel obliged to forward the letter to the authorities as evidence of hate speech.

The Council provided a statement on the banning in which it says: “under the Equality Act 2010, the Council must, in the exercise of its functions, have due regard to the need to foster good relations between different races and religions within the borough. The Council took account of the fact that Mr Atzmon’s presence at the Hall, and knowledge of his presence among residents of the borough, might harm such relationships, as well as the Council’s duty to tackle prejudice and promote understanding within the borough.”

This begs the question — in what way would either the “presence” of Gilad Atzmon or “knowledge of his presence among residents” harm the relationship between different races and religions in the borough? Atzmon was to appear at the venue as a saxophone player in a jazz group. It’s hard to imagine a more severe inversion of the concept of discrimination. On the basis of the feelings of one complainant, the right of a musician to work or even be present in Islington is taken away.

What lies behind this is a familiar tactic. Zionists have no argument to counter critics of Israel, so they try to shut them up by attacking their character and robbing them of their livelihood. Now AIPAC and other lobbies are working to make it illegal to criticize Israel, as we see in the recent case of a Texas speech therapist whose yearly contract was denied because she refused to sign a pledge not to support a boycott of Israel. One might ask, what does a teaching position in Pflugerville, Texas have to do with one’s opinions about a country seven thousand miles away? And why does that country have the right to compel anyone in the US to sign a loyalty oath?

If the BDS movement doesn’t do it, zealotry and fanatacism will be the undoing of the Zionist project. People don’t like being told what they are allowed to think and say. When our words and thoughts are policed, it makes us question all the more. What were once decent leftist positions against racism and discrimination have been twisted into a new kind of totalitarianism, one in which it is racist to question the racist, and discriminatory to question discrimination; one in which we are told to think something doesn’t exist when we can see with our own eyes that it does. The self-righteous members of the Islington Town Council have set a very dangerous precedent, and have been used as fools on top of it.

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More facts have come to light in the case of Gilad Atzmon and his banning by the Islington Town Council from performing at a jazz concert on December 21, 2018. The original scenario was that one e-mail from one person calling Atzmon an antisemite somehow persuaded the Islington council to take the drastic step of removing Atzmon from a town-owned venue. Many who heard the story felt this was a rash decision which would surely be reversed when the facts were brought to light. But the Council voted to uphold its decision and Atzmon was indeed not allowed to play.

Now it appears that the single complainant – Martin Rankoff – was not just an anonymous fan of Israel but the UK director of Likud-Herut. Herut (or ‘freedom’) was Israel’s founding nationalist party from 1948 until it later merged with Likud. It is a militant and extreme Zionist organization whose roots go in a straight line from Ze’ev Jabotinsky and Menachem Begin up to Benjamin Netanyahu today. Jabotinsky and Begin helped form the Irgun terrorists in 1937. Irgun committed notorious massacres in Palestine leading up to and during the Nakba (or ‘catastrophe’) of 1947-1948. These include the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946, killing 91 people, and the massacre at Deir Yassin in 1948 in which 254 unarmed Palestinian villagers were brutally murdered as an incentive for other Palestinians to leave. On its web site Likud-Herut UK lists Jabotinsky and Begin as “visionaries”. Likud-Herut is a member of the World Zionist Organization and the Zionist Federation of the UK who believe in “the inalienable right of all Jews to live and settle in all parts of the Land of Israel.”

In a letter to the New York Times in 1948 Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt, and others compared Herut to the Nazis and Fascists who had just been defeated in World War II. Referring to this letter, Ramzy Baroud recently wrote, “the ‘Nazi and Fascist’ mentality that defined Herut in 1948 now defines the most powerful ruling class in Israel. Israel’s leaders speak openly of genocide and murder, yet they celebrate and promote Israel as if an icon of civilization, democracy and human rights.”

The history of Herut and Likud tells us a great deal about who the people are who complained about Atzmon to Islington Town Council. When Atzmon moved to appeal his being banned, formidable opponents again appeared in the form of the Simkins Law firm, one of the most expensive law practices in Britain, with not one but two partners at Simkins being put on the case. These are Gideon Benaim and Tom Iverson. Benaim recently became well known in Britain for winning an invasion of privacy suit against the BBC on behalf of pop singer Cliff Richard, who said he spent £3.4m ($4.3 million) on the case. Clearly, representation by Simkins doesn’t come cheap. Also listed in Benaim’s resumé is his client, the Las Vegas Sands Corporation, which likely has no problem with Simkins’ fees either. The Sands casino is owned by billionaire Sheldon Adelson, who, as it happens, is a primary sponsor of the Likud Party in Israel, led by Benjamin Netanyahu. Adelson owns the newspaper Israel Hayom, a mouthpiece for Netanyahu and Likud.

Photo by: Dennis Van Tine/STAR MAX/IPx 5/28/15 Sheldon Adelson at The Champions of Israel Gala. (NYC)
Photo by: Dennis Van Tine/STAR MAX/IPx 5/28/15 Sheldon Adelson at The Champions of Israel Gala. (NYC)

It now appears that Atzmon’s banning was not the result of a casual complaint; it was an intentional attack on a well-respected supporter of Palestinian human rights by the Likud organization, directly represented by Martin Rankoff. The attack was followed up by the hiring of a lawyer who has worked for Likud godfather Sheldon Adelson. The connection to these powerful forces may explain why IslingtonTown Council leader Richard Watts, without any delay or attempt at negotiation, took the step of going straight to a decision to hire an expensive law firm. This is while Islington is facing serious austerity and shortage of funds in its own operating budget. Islington has a population of about 206,000 people. This very month, 43 of those people were counted in one survey as homeless and sleeping on the streets.

Regarding the financial problems of his borough and others around London, Richard Watts, told The Independent in October 2018 :

“As a result less money is being spent on the other services that keep our communities running such as libraries, local roads, early intervention and local welfare support,” he added.

“unprecedented” funding pressures and demand for adult and children’s social care and homelessness services was “pushing councils to the limit”.

Yet, to Watts and his fellow councilors in Islington, backing partisans for a foreign country – Israel — took precedence over the pressing needs of the people whom they are supposed to represent. Either Watts was inexcusably careless with scarce town funds or a deal was made and he knew that he could depend on Likud-Herut to back him. Or, like politicians all across Europe and the US facing the power of the Israel lobby, he knew he couldn’t afford to say no.

According to Simkin’s web site, Gideon Benaim “has extensive expertise in the areas of defamation, privacy, harassment and copyright.” Perhaps it is not a coincidence that immediately after Islington brought in Simkins, identical statements from an unnamed Labour spokesman describing Atzmon as “a vile antisemite” appeared in both the BBC and The Guardian. Perhaps a lawyer experienced in defending people against defamation would also know how to perpetrate it. Perhaps this was Benaim’s opening move. Character assassination is a common tactic in cases that have a weak legal foundation, such as this one, as it goes a long way to convicting the accused before their case ever reaches a courtroom.

The involvement of Likud-Herut in the attack on Gilad Atzmon, and Islington’s official backing of that attack, constitutes a monumental scandal. This wasn’t just a stupid mistake; it was a hit. It is an affront to reason that an an arch-racist organization like Likud, who from the beginning have stood for the removal of the people of Palestine from their own land by means of terror, murder, and forced expulsion, could possibly claim they they were defamed by someone pointing out these very crimes. There is a case of defamation here for sure – the defamation of Gilad Atzmon. For Zionists, defamation is nothing more than a tool to destroy opponents who can’t be dealt with by other means. We are long since tired of truth tellers being accused of antisemitism. We’re tired of national and local resources being used to prop up the criminal state of Israel. Coercion by advocates for Israel is at the center of this issue in Islington, as it is in many other towns and many other countries. For the sake of Palestine and our own sovereignty, it has to be called out and stopped.

(Republished from Richard Hugus by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Anon[748] • Disclaimer says:

    A perfect illustration that Zionism is now so all-consuming of Jewish establishment life that even other Jews are not safe. Again, I don’t particularly care about intra-Jewish fights. The problems begin when they insist on dragging the rest of us in, and to protect Israel on our dime and with our blood. Fuck them.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  2. The involvement of Likud-Herut in the attack on Gilad Atzmon, and Islington’s official backing of that attack, constitutes a monumental scandal. This wasn’t just a stupid mistake; it was a hit.

    It’s more than that. Netanyahu is a Likudnik, and Likud is a prime player in the Knesset, and government. Will the “anti-Semitic” Jeremy Corbyn grow a pair and call out Israel for interfering in internal British political matters?

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
    • Replies: @Byrresheim
    , @Clive Edwards
  3. Miro23 says:

    A fine example of the way of the way that Zionism has metastasized and is now consuming traditional British social concepts of equality before the law, free speech and civil society.

    And it’s sad to see the one time flagships of British impartiality and balanced reporting (BBC, The Economist and the Guardian) trumpet Zionist propaganda on demand.

    Also, the “respectable” British middle class cooperate with all this. These world champion cowards and virtue signalers now do verbal acrobatics to avoid a whole raft of so called “sensitive” (hate speech) subjects, and they surely remind me of the fashionable ethnic Russian elite leftists who promoted the Bolsheviks prior to 1917.

    After the October 1917 revolution these PC types expected to be welcomed, but instead were surprised to find themselves imprisoned, shot and sent to the Gulag along with the rest of the educated population.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  4. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    The main reason I boycott Israel (and suppliers I can identify with Jewish causes) is because it (Israel and its sayanim) so distort and impoverish the experiences of my life.

    Usually undetectibly.

    • Replies: @Anonymous41
  5. Ever noticed how taking Human Growth Hormone makes their eyelashes fall out?

    • Replies: @WindyWay
    , @nic
    , @Skeptikal
  6. This is a strange story.

    But I was more concerned with

    Texas strikes again — they continue advance a polity that places foreigners over the rights of it’s own.

    Texas the lone star state.
    \
    Save in this they are not alone — bizarre

  7. Biff says:

    I like stories like this. Keep lifting the pendulum higher and higher – and swing!

  8. niceland says:

    Pardon me – I have enjoyed several ale’s with my friends this evening.

    While I sympathize with Gilad Atzmond I think total Zionist control over the British empire is both timely and fantastic news for most of the world. A fate well deserved. In some sense the devil met his grandmother so to speak. The brits never really got over it when my ancestors, the vikings, paid them several visits long time ago and stole their silver and virgins. Ever since they have been serious troublemakers all around the globe. They even settled North America with terrible consequences – an idea my ancestors were wise enough to abandon right after their first visit. They realized the place was more trouble than it’s worth – something the Brits didn’t realize before it was to late for them.

    Thankfully – according to unz.com commenters the Zionists are taking care of the North American problem as we speak. So all in all good news. God save the queen!

    *cheers*

  9. Wally says:

    “Incredibly, on the basis of this letter alone, the Islington Council went way out of its way and contacted the show’s promoter to get Atzmon banned — something Rankoff didn’t even ask for.”

    Nonsense. That’s exactly what Rankoff was asking for.

    As in: “Rankoff included links to ADL and Israeli news outlets accusing Atzmon of antisemitism.”

  10. The jewish attacks on Corbyn were quite interesting.
    In Corbyn’s statement about what kind of people did not belong in Labour he specified anti semitic messages sent to the Labour organisation.
    The worst one, according to him was ‘Hitler was misunderstood’.
    His examples made me wonder ‘are the British liberating themselves from mainstream WW history ?’.
    Of course jewry attacks jews as Gilad Atzmon.
    The Dutch jew Hamburger, chairman of a jewish pro Palestinian organisation, also is called a traitor, as is Norman Finkelstein.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @annamaria
  11. Wally says:

    “People don’t like being told what they are allowed to think and say. When our words and thoughts are policed, it makes us question all the more.”

    Bullseye.
    Laws that ban free speech on the fake & impossible “holocaust” has created massive interest in Revisionist research which exposes the fraud of ‘6,000,000 Jews, 5,000,000 other, & gas chambers’.
    Lies require censorship, facts do not.
    Below is where free speech on the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes. An obvious admission that the storyline doesn’t stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.American Pravda: Holocaust Denial, by Ron Unz: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/ comments are a must read

    http://www.codoh.com

  12. Gene says:

    It is unbelievable, people were able and allowed to criticize Fascism and Hitler in particular was not immune to criticism in 1930s 1nd early 1940s. Today, anyone dares criticizing Jewish crimes will be destroyed and risk dire consequences.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  13. Wally says:

    “Yet, to Watts and his fellow councilors in Islington, backing partisans for a foreign country – Israel — took precedence over the pressing needs of the people whom they are supposed to represent.”

    That aint nothin:

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers. : http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    Israel’s Dirty Little Secret, How it drives US policies exploiting a spineless Congress and White House: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-dirty-little-secret/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room: http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/

    Israel’s Money Machine, Zionist Billionaires & US taxpayers keep on paying for parasite Israel: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-money-machine/

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  14. It’s just about over. The Zionist control all of Europe and are in the final stages of owning the US completely. The Magic Jews have forced most of the states to pass Anti BDS laws which is unconstitutional. The Jewish controlled media has complete authority to do whatever they want by the Deep State and our Jewish Congress who kneel before Netanyahu.

    The Zionist have hundreds of organization who daily report anyone who doesn’t agree with what they say and will find away to get you. This is easily shown in the case of Atzmon who will be destroyed economically, socially, and reputation wise for his actions. This will continue because the next writer, citizen, scientist or anyone who thinks they will challenge their control of thoughts of all people will get the same. They are showing just how deep their control of society is. They are laughing at all of us.

    They bombed the Cole and nothing happened. They murder children; they run prostitution rings with girls kidnapped from the Balkans and nothing happens. They murder Christians and nothing happens. They do what ever they want and they know there will be no response.

    Until they pay for what they are doing they continue to destroy humanity. People like Atzmon who do not make a lot of money have little chance to defeat these bastards. Anyone who comes to his aid will be attacked just like him. We are moving into the Dark Ages and they will destroy all of history and the progress of society with their use of racism and antisemitism.

    They have used this before and they will use it again and again. It is their M.O. and they never change because it works.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  15. @niceland

    The end of the British empire was in 1956, when Eisenhower stopped the GB, French Israeli attack on Egypt.
    About the British role in history, indeed, they were harsh colonial rulers.
    They also invented he basis of European prosperity, the steam engine.
    What is fantastic about jewish power and rule is completely beyond my comprehension.
    Just finished a pro jewish book
    James Parkes, ‘The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue, A Study in the Origins of Antisemitism’, New York 1974
    as with any pro jewish book I read, my idea, had judaism disappeared because of christianity, the world, in my opinion, maybe had been a better world.
    Rabbi Graetz, in his nine volume or so around 1880 history of the jews, writes that conscience has no role in judaism; did not read it, quote by Houston Chamberlain.
    Can anyone specify anything jewry or judaism did for improving the world ?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  16. @Curmudgeon

    He won’t.

    An antisemite used to be a man who disliked jews.

    Now an antisemite is a man disliked by jews.

    • Agree: Justsaying
    • Replies: @Nonny
    , @Art
  17. If the BDS movement doesn’t do it, zealotry and fanatacism will be the undoing of the Zionist project.

    Has it been estimated how much of an effect the BDS movement has had on the Israeli economy? On the face of it, the headline economic figures seem pretty healthy.

    • Replies: @densa
  18. anonymoys says:
    @niceland

    Well, there is no reason to be cheerful. They’ve already taken care of your cousins – the swedes, the Danes etc…It’s just a matter of time until the zio-mafia decide to take care of the Icelanders , if they haven’t already. Is Iceland still an Independent country ?

    Anyway, today the descendants of those Vikings are all happily working with and for the zio-mafia.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  19. You can actually see the scar where they removed the cock from his forehead…

    • Agree: Moi
  20. Herald says:
    @niceland

    Clearly you should have had a few more beers and then have gone straight to bed. You are showing us just how easy it is to make a complete ass of yourself, after a few drinks.

  21. Tom Welsh says:

    “The self-righteous members of the Islington Town Council have set a very dangerous precedent, and have been used as fools on top of it”.

    Only because they are fools. Cowardly, snivelling fools.

  22. onebornfree says: • Website

    What a laugh. Another “storm in a teacup”.

    Nothing more than a bunch of statists arguing amongst themselves about what?

    The frickin’ “jeeeewws”… again!

    See video : The “It’s The Jews” Scam:
    http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2018/12/onebornfrees-special-scam-alerts-no-80.html

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anon
  23. Tyrion 2 says:

    The problem with this article is that it has no principles. The writer seems to feel the constant need to tie everything back to the anti-Semitic mythos of “Jews are the real Nazis”, rather than defend Atzmon on the basis of free speech or really anything that doesn’t even involve doubling down on calling for the ethnic cleansing of Israel.

    This article should have a been a hole in one. Instead the writer whacked himself in the foot. But I guess he can’t help himself.

  24. @Jett Rucker

    Agreed on that point. I’m still waiting to see the play “My Name Is Rachel Corrie”, the Oscar-winning film “Paradise Now”, and the art exhibit of drawings by Palestinian school children, each event in my area having been banned or shutdown by the Jewish Gestapo.

    I’ve been boycotting Israel and anyone who supports them for almost ten years now. I would drive across state lines to buy a jar of mustard before I’d drop a nickel in their claws.

    • Replies: @unseated
  25. anon[220] • Disclaimer says:

    Jazz saxophonist and writer Gilad Atzmon might have a powerful remedy in business interference depending on applicable law?

    Comes to my mind the extremely interesting question, when does the history of a law firm, or a lawyer, or a group of lawyers, or a group of journalist, or a politician or a corporation etc. who regularly engage in, consult about, write about, or support those who do engage in, a particular class of business interference, rise to the level of a class of person conspiracy…?

    On reviewing engagement letters and invoices and matching who paid for services rendered, I find many times, in America, USA law firms, in Atzmon similar situations, often bill very little to anyone, and sometimes make application to get paid for services to related in-purpose, distant, but related organizations? Those appeals for funds (are famous reads, sometimes) as they occur outside of the client attorney engagement; but appeal for payments often brag about the brilliance of success and explain in great detail, how the conspiracy was advanced.

    What might constitute conspiracy under British laws and legal presidents?
    I wonder do Universal Jurisdiction Courts gave jurisdiction in this type of case?
    Seems to me Atzmon might be global civil and human rights issues; those wanting to hear Music by Atzmon were deprived.. not just in the present time, but also deprived, are those wanting to hear anyone at a future time, where also denied because “the subject person” harbors a particular political, racial, cultural persuasion?

    If something like conspiracy against a law firm were ever to be admitted for prosecution into a Court of competent jurisdiction, and deposition of the defendant law firm client records for the past X years allowed, deposition evidence might allow to prove conspiracy (depending on the applicable law) not only against the defendant law firm and its client but might also reach to global agencies that support the type of interference the defendant law firm rose to enforce. It would be interesting to see who is paying the bills in any case of this nature.

    i have no interest in Atzmon myself, but the issues here are very interesting indeed. IANAL.

  26. What lies behind this is a familiar tactic. Zionists have no argument to counter critics of Israel, so they try to shut them up by attacking their character and robbing them of their livelihood.

    And calling them “anti-Semites,” which is a really dumb term when used in the usual ways.

    Apparently the dumb goyim, aside from a minuscule minority, will never wake up.

    • Replies: @David Martin
  27. @niceland

    That’s not very nice. All true, but still not nice, Niceland! 😉

    • LOL: niceland
    • Replies: @niceland
  28. @niceland

    Well, the British started the mess by secretly plotting with the Zionists against the Arabs during WW1 – Balfour Declaration, Nov. 1917.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  29. @Gene

    Today, anyone dares criticizing Jewish crimes will be destroyed and risk dire consequences.

    Which is exactly why Hitler was vilified, smeared, demonized, and his country crushed into slavery. Attempt to stand up for yourself and you’re dead, mafia-style on a grand scale.

    No Marxism, no usury, no need for Nazis.

  30. @jilles dykstra

    They also invented he basis of European prosperity, the steam engine.

    Wrong.

    They may have been among the first to recognize and employ its practical potentials, but the concept was appreciated even in antiquity and the French scientist Denis Papin, professor of mathematics at Marburg,( just North of Frankfurt, in present-day Germany) in 1690 AD developed the first steam engine to use a piston.

  31. Now what is wrong, the British steam engine was developed out of a steam water pump in mines.
    The British saw the industrial opportunities, and succeeded in using these.
    The basis of the British industrial revolution.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  32. @joeshittheragman

    GB was blackmailed into the Balfour declaration, without USA military assistance GB would have had to capitulate in November 1917.
    USA jewry at the time already was quite powerful, Morgenthau had financed the campaign of Wilson.

  33. niceland says:
    @jacques sheete

    As it turns out, jokes tend to be better the night before than the day after.

    Sarcasm in text form over the web can be difficult

    -Abraham Lincoln.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  34. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    The more exposure of Zionists’ collaboration with Ukrainian neo-Nazi (and ISIS), the better for humanity at large. The exposure makes Shoah-biz effectively over.
    Since Talmud teaches the absolute amorality towards non-Jews (including the violation and murder of non-Jewish children), it is pointless to respect the opinions and desires of Israel-firsters. They are a plague on humanity. https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/08/19/zionist-media-neo-nazis-are-bad-in-america-but-neo-nazis-are-good-in-ukraine/

    … the western-backed government in Kiev is throwing militia groups – some openly neo-Nazi – into the front of the battle. … Many of those groups carried huge posters of Stepan Bandera… Not a single Jewish organization in American protested against this because supporting Neo-Nazis in Ukraine was largely a Neoconservative enterprise. … David Frum of the Atlantic scorned at the claim that there was a small but significant group of Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. Those Neo-Nazis, Frum implied, were seeking “true democracy in Ukraine.”

    “True democracy in Ukraine” a la Frum and Kagans: https://forward.com/opinion/401518/violent-anti-semitism-is-gripping-ukraine-and-the-government-is-standing/

    Over the past four years of Poroshenko’s presidency, Ukraine has experienced a steady growth of anti-Semitism, including the glorification of Nazi collaborators, vandalism of Jewish sites and public threats against Jews — and the rate of anti-Semitic incidents appears to be escalating.

    The Ministry for Diaspora Affairs under Education Minister Naftali Bennett: https://www.jta.org/2018/01/28/israel/report-ukraine-had-more-anti-semitic-incidents-than-all-former-soviet-countries-combined

    … 2017 was the second consecutive year that Ukraine had the largest number of anti-Semitic incidents of any other country from the former Soviet Union.

    A tight collaboration between zionists and neo-Nazis: https://www.alternet.org/2014/11/how-israel-lobby-protected-ukrainian-neo-nazis/

    If passed, Conyers’ amendment would have explicitly barred those found to have offered “praise or glorification of Nazism or its collaborators, including through the use of white supremacist, neo-Nazi, or other similar symbols” from receiving any form of support from the US Department of Defense.
    … the ADL and Wiesenthal Center refused to support Conyers’ proposal.

    “Israel Is Arming Neo-Nazis in Ukraine:” https://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-is-arming-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/5650478

    A photo on [neo-Nazi] Azov’s website shows a Tavor [Israeli rifle] in the hands of one of the militia’s officers.

    The rifles are produced under licence from Israel Weapon Industries, and as such would have been authorized by the Israeli government. IWI markets the Tavor as the “primary weapon” of the Israeli special forces..

    And it’s beyond belief that Jewish Russophobes in the US & UK have been targeting children by inserting anti-Russian propaganda into movies for kids (see, for example, Chris Weitz’ mediocre oeuvre “Golden Compass”).

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Wally
  35. Zionists rule in every western government and especially the U.K. and the U.S. and this rule is from the Zionist control of the money creation via every central bank aka the FED and the Bank of England for as Nathan Rothschild infamously said I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of the British Empire , the man who controls the money creation controls the British Empire and I am that man!

    The Zionist in their drive for a demonic satanic NWO will do anything in their power to stifle any and all criticism of their draconian demonic religion that worships lucifer and so place themselves as the UNTOCHABLES!

    Read The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed and The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman and watch his videos on youtube and read The Protocols of Zion.

  36. @jilles dykstra

    You did much better this time. Much more accurate.

  37. WindyWay says:
    @Emblematic

    I WAS wondering why Sheldon’s face looked so wrinkle-free and “fresh” LOL If only it would erase and renew his mind and heart as well so that he could do something good for a change!

  38. @niceland

    Sarcasm in text form over the web can be difficult

    -Abraham Lincoln.

    Abe, although rarely honest ( the label was a campaign slogan), is correct on that. 😉

    Sarcasm, in any form, can be difficult.

    -Abe Sheete

    Juvenal, preceding Lincoln, perceived another problem; the writing may not be difficult for some but the understanding of it often is.

    Difficlie est saturum non scribere.

    -Juvenal, SATIRE I

    • Agree: niceland
  39. annamaria says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Corbin was targeted by Jewish purists via Integrity Initiative, the nest of presstitutes

    https://grayzoneproject.com/2018/12/17/inside-the-temple-of-covert-propaganda-the-integrity-initiative-and-the-uks-scandalous-information-war/

    The roster of presstitutes fed by the Integrity Initiative includes half-wits from the heavily zionized Atlantic Council that features, for example, a well-known Russophobe Anne Applebaum.

    Recent hacked documents have revealed an international network of politicians, journalists, academics, researchers and military officers, all engaged in highly deceptive covert propaganda campaigns funded by the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO), NATO, Facebook and hardline national security institutions.

    The exposing of the Integrity Initiative has just scratched the surface of what appears to be a much more sophisticated, insidious, and extremely online version of Operation Mockingbird.

    The Integrity Initiative claims that it is “counter[ing] Russian disinformation and malign influence,” and indeed, the main players behind it appear intent on hyping the Russian threat to justify ramped up military budgets and a long-term war footing.

    But the Integrity Initiative has also trained its fire on perceived subversives inside NATO member states, including the UK.

    According to David Miller, professor of political sociology in the school of policy studies at the University of Bristol and the director of the Organization for Propaganda Studies, the Integrity Initiative “appears to be a military directed push.”

    https://www.cyberguerrilla.org/blog/operation-integrity-initiative-british-informational-war-against-all-part-3/

  40. annamaria says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The Friends of Israel in the UK care not about either the UK or western civilization at large. They are low life morally: https://medium.com/@viktorzar/integrity-initiative-fights-against-british-people-9d1638b43ec1

    The new information leak demonstrates that the Twitter account of the Integrity Initiative project was used to send negative comments about the activities of the Labour leader Jeremy Corbin and other prominent figures.

    The task of the pro-government Internet trolls was obviously to form an image of Corbin as a Russian spy. They called Corbin “a useful idiot who helps the Kremlin” and tried to convince readers that “all his work is the promotion of Kremlin’s interests”.

    Labor MPS: https://larouchepub.com/pr/2018/181210_ii_targets_corbyn.html

    … the clearly mis-named ‘Integrity Initiative’—funded by the Foreign Office to the tune of £2.25 million over the past two years—has routinely been using its Twitter feed to disseminate personal attacks and smears against the Leader of the Opposition, the Labour Party and Labour officials…

    … If it is true that there is a deep state, taxpayer funded operation against our party it is totally unacceptable and an explanation plus an enquiry must be conducted immediately.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
  41. annamaria says:
    @niteranger

    ‘They are showing just how deep their control of society is. … They have used this before and they will use it again and again. It is their M.O. and they never change because it works.”

    And see how “they” have been treated throughout history.
    The obnoxious lot is not accustomed to the degree of dissemination of information today.

    Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad

    The new-age Talmudists (Zionists/Nazi-collaborators) are indeed insane.

    • Replies: @Wade
  42. @annamaria

    The more exposure of Zionists’ collaboration with Ukrainian neo-Nazi (and ISIS), the better for humanity at large.

    True and I’d like to add that the more exposure of those thugs, in general, the better. Many collaborated with the Nazis, (not necessarily a bad thing in itself), as you already know.

    I found the following a good source of understanding who and what they really are, partly because its bias though utterly transparent, is itself documentation of their utter obsession with twisting truths and fanatic efforts to excuse and evade ineffably monstrous behavior.:

    A Jewish Kapo in Auschwitz: History, Memory, and the Politics of Survival
    by
    Tuvia Friling

    Eliezer Gruenbaum (1908–1948) was a Polish Jew denounced for serving as a Kapo while interned at Auschwitz. He was the communist son of Itzhak Gruenbaum, the most prominent secular leader of interwar Polish Jewry who later became the chairman of the Jewish Agency’s Rescue Committee…and Israel’s first minister of the interior. In light of the father’s high placement in both Polish and Israeli politics…

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18988914-a-jewish-kapo-in-auschwitz

    The Commie pig described, though claiming to be Jewish, evidently had little, if any, regard for either Jews or Zionists or apparently anyone else, either. He was despised by many Jews and may have been assassinated. (Good riddance.)

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  43. @annamaria

    Agree button already used or I’d use it here.

  44. annamaria says:
    @Tyrion 2

    In case Tyrion 2 missed the Shoah-biz “principles,” here is a repost (24) for him:

    “… I’m still waiting to see the play “My Name Is Rachel Corrie”, the Oscar-winning film “Paradise Now”, and the art exhibit of drawings by Palestinian school children, each event in my area having been banned or shutdown by the Jewish Gestapo. … ”

    The Jewish State, AIPAC, and other 52 main American Jewish organizations are the nowadays replicas of Soviet secret police and German Gestapo. These organizations and Jewish State are also the most active promoters of neo-Nazism in Europe.

    Talmudists in action: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/25/russia.books

    In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together – a reference to the 1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the Russian Jewish population – contains three chapters discussing the Jewish role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet Russia.
    But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book…

    Why have the Jewish leaders reacted furiously to the book? — Here is an excerpt from a book review: http://www.texemarrs.com/062004/soviet_gulag.htm

    … Lenin, Trotsky and other Jewish conspirators had overthrown the Romanov dynasty in 1917 and set up their own Bolshevik totalitarian system. The result: The nightly assassination and roundup of thousands of innocent men, women, and children, most of whom were herded by black-hearted Big Brother secret police into thousands of monstrously evil Gulag concentration camps.

    The largest number of victims, Solzhenitsyn reports, were Christian believers, understandable since the revolutionary Jews despised and hated … Christians. All-in-all, about 66 million innocent people were kidnapped and eventually died a hideous death….

    A sampling:
    An organizer of GULAG: Naftaly Frenkel, a thief and mass murderer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naftaly_Frenkel
    An organizer of Holodomor in Ukraine: Lazar Kaganovich, a mass murderer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich
    https://justice4poland.com/2017/03/23/lazar-kaganovich-the-chief-of-stalins-willing-executioners-implications-for-holodomor-the-great-terror-and-katyn-massacre/

    The more you protest, Tyrion 2, the discussion of the Jewish Power, the greater is exposure of the Jews’ crimes in Europe and the Middle East.

  45. The problem with websites like the UNZ review is that we are getting our jew news from a jew. This simply must stop. The idea that a jew is going to help the so-called “goyim” break out of the death grip of zionist white genocide is a insult and those that believe it are actually criminal.

  46. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Glob says immigration-invasion is good for the West and emigration-expulsion is good for West Bank(its Palestinian population).

    https://theintercept.com/2018/12/16/israel-messianic-jews-ethinic-cleansing-palestinians-pence/

  47. donut says:

    They’ve got a nose for that sort of thing .

  48. anon[538] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    I’ll pass.

    click bait is putrid stale

  49. @jacques sheete

    That quote really sums up the article. I had also picked it out to highlight it. The Zionists really have nothing going for them but the power of the money behind their movement, which they use very effectively on this side of the pond as well, buying politicians and the molders of public opinion. See “Falling to Pieces for Israel.” https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=MKKKSAR63B69. It’s a gangster operation at bottom.

  50. Isn’t Sheldon Adelson’s the perfect face of Zionism?

  51. The Brits used to have a well deserved reputation for fair play. All trashed now for Israel’s benefit. How sad!

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  52. anon[538] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    quote: “this article . . . has no principles. The writer seems to feel the constant need to tie everything back to the anti-Semitic mythos of “Jews are the real Nazis”,” end quote

    Agree.
    It is a lie (not mythos) to equate Jews to Nazis,

    if by Nazis is meant NSDAP.

    NSDAP DID have principles, and DID act in legitimate defense of its sovereign land, polity and culture.

    Whereas Jews, especially in the present iteration those in Israel (and in USA) act on stolen land, exploit the institutions, blood and treasure of another, and act not merely without principle but, by their own claim, by way of deception.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  53. annamaria says:
    @Paul Dailey

    “The idea that a jew is going to help the so-called “goyim” break out of the death grip of zionist white genocide is a insult … This simply must stop.”

    — This is dandy from a person who has no proof of his own significance in “breaking out of the death grip of zionist.” At least, Ron Unz has demonstrated — on many occasions — an extraordinary courage combined with the high intelligence and integrity. He is a principled man. A true fighter for human decency.

    What are your principles, “Paul Dailey?” Why are you so eager to besmirch Ron Unz? And what did give you the authority to lecture the readers on what “must stop?”

    This is your first post on the Unz forum and the post quacks “by the way of deception…” For a hasbara, your post, “Paul Dailey,” is not particularly smart.

    • Agree: Nonny, Stan d Mute
  54. @Curmudgeon

    Jeremy Corbyn needs to correct the oversights of the British government of the day vis-a-vis the King David Hotel attack and the offences against the Palestinians, who were under British protection. Failing that, I can only hope the Chinese will do what is required to finally create peace in the Middle East and around the world. They should remember it was the bankers behind the East India Company who guided the Opium Wars.

  55. Atzmon is dangerous not just to Zionists and their globalst project but also to the establishment/plutocracy in general who have used “The Jewish People” as human shields for the past many centuries.
    If Atzmon gets his way and ‘The Holocaust’ comes to be seen as an historical event and, therefore subject to the normal rules of evidence and debate rather than as the RELIGION it has been manufactured to be, then the human shield and the global establishment is in deep, deep sh*t.

  56. Grrrrr-eat investigative journalism by Richard Hugus. I’m tired….

    Palestine Is Still THE Issue — and the Zionists know it, and they slander, and they scheme, and they never lose focus or go away while pursuing their program of domination and control.

  57. @JoaoAlfaiate

    I generally buy this argument. But when looking at their holdings in Africa, it simply is not the case.

  58. @annamaria

    In my opinion hardly any jewish organisation in any country gives a damn about the country or its non jewish inhabitants.
    The question here to me seems to be if criticism of jews in GB is increasing, or if this criticism is fake, made by jews themselves, just a way to get rid of Corbyn

  59. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    I don’t agree with Atzmon’s worldview and ideology, but there’s real integrity there because he believes in same moral standards for all peoples.

    In contrast, too many powerful Jews are high intelligence but low integrity. Perhaps, they are high intelligence and high integrity among themselves but there is near total absence of integrity when dealing with goyim such as white Americans, Russians, Iranians, Palestinians, Syrians, etc.
    One would like to believe that high intelligence correlates with high integrity, but while such is possible, the relation between intelligence and integrity could be inversely proportionate at least IF higher intelligence people are dealing with low intelligence people. Higher intelligence people, feeling contempt for low intelligence people, may feel that their integrity shouldn’t be wasted on such dummies who exist only to serve high intelligence people. At most, the rule seems to be low intelligence people deserve some consideration from high intelligence people(like dogs and cats should be treated humanely by humans), but in no shape or form should low-intelligence people be considered as equals of high-intelligence people. Thus, rules of integrity don’t really apply to the low who mainly existed to be either controlled or duped by the high.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Wally
  60. Che Guava says:

    A very interesting article, on the incidentals (like Sir Cliff’s expenses, Adelson’s bright red heavy alcoholic nose, the Lie(aw) company and its reps.

    I am not a big jazz expert or fan, but I like some, so this whole thing is making me want to hear the performance of groups with Atzman playing. As with his writing, likely liking some of it.

  61. densa says:
    @Henry's Cat

    “economic figures seem pretty healthy.”

    Yes, I don’t think the BDS is cramping their profit model. It’s the barrier against criticism, the anti-Semitism wall, they’re concerned with.

  62. lavoisier says: • Website

    One might ask, what does a teaching position in Pflugerville, Texas have to do with one’s opinions about a country seven thousand miles away? And why does that country have the right to compel anyone in the US to sign a loyalty oath?

    The only reason that country thousands of miles away can compel anyone in the US to sign a loyalty oath is due primarily because of the legislative whores in the US who passed the laws.

    Jews can manipulate all they want, but their efforts would be futile without the willingness of the traitorous scum we call our “leaders” to go along with their evil plans.

    Any legislator that is voting to deprive the citizens of this country of their constitutional rights should be rightly viewed as a traitor to his public oath and to his nation.

    • Agree: densa
    • Replies: @Wally
  63. nic says:
    @Emblematic

    Yes I have noticed that. You can see it on all the very old Jewish psychopaths.

  64. Thank you for your article. I have been sickened by the Zionist/Pro-Israel power to influence policy in the US, and more recently disgusted by the unfounded accusations of ‘anti-semitism’ hurled against Corbyn and anyone who dares to denounce Israel for the apartheid state it is, guilty of continuous war crimes etc. The Islington episode just shows how epidemic nefarious zionism is.

  65. @jilles dykstra

    “YouGov polls show anti-Semitism in Labour has actually REDUCED DRAMATICALLY since Jeremy Corbyn became leader
    By
     Tom D. Rogers
     –
     29th March 2018”
    https://evolvepolitics.com/yougov-polls-show-anti-semitism-in-labour-has-actually-reduced-dramatically-since-jeremy-corbyn-became-leader/

  66. renfro says:

    I have been sickened by the Zionist/Pro-Israel power to influence policy in the US,

    It is worse in the US than most people know. We who follow the US Isr marriage from hell see the big scandals and announcements but not many look into the smaller crevices.

    Trump appointed his two jewish lawyers to these positions. If you read their tweets you think you are reading statements made by officials of Israel.

    U.S. Ambassador to Israel, David M. Friedman
    https://twitter.com/usambisrael?lang=en

    Jason Greenblatt, Assistant to the 45th President of the USA & Special Representative for International Negotiations
    https://twitter.com/jdgreenblatt45?lang=en

    Truly sickening.

  67. You are quite correct about Hitler and Germany:

    “NSDAP DID have principles, and DID act in legitimate defense of its sovereign land, polity and culture.

    Whereas Jews, especially in the present iteration those in Israel (and in USA) act on stolen land, exploit the institutions, blood and treasure of another, and act not merely without principle but, by their own claim, by way of deception.”

    Indeed, prior to the outbreak of WWII, the Nazis were working (with Zionists) to facilitate the migration of Jews from Germany to Palestine (See: Transfer Agreement) and not just for simplistic reasons involving ‘white supremacy’ that we hear about on TV.

    Jews were widely resented in Germany for complex and often legitimate reasons.

    During the Weimar era, Jews played an exploitive and degrading role in German culture. In some ways, they dominated it. Prior to the outbreak of WWII, organized Jewry also became an implacable and aggressive foe of Germany’s. World Jewry launched an economic war on Germany in 1933, just weeks after Hitler assumed power.

    Before Hitler (and even during his short reign) radical-left Jewry operated as a Fifth Column throughout much of Europe. Their communist revolution consumed millions of lives. Fascism and Naziism were a reaction to the rise and spread of this toxic ideology.

    Jews and their collaborators even sabotaged Hitler’s peace overtures. That’s right: peace overtures.

    Hitler details some of their machinations in his historic speech before the Reichstag in 1941. It’s quite revealing.

    See: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p389_Hitler.html

    The case can be made that it was global Jewry unleashed as much warmaking against Germany as the reverse.

    Some of these patterns endure.

    Today, under a different names and banners, campaigns of subversion and warfare are being orchestrated by the same ethnic cabal. Their victims include the people of Iraq, Libya, Iran, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine; as well as dissident voices in the West such as Gilad Atzmon.

    See also the heavy Jewish presence today in human sex trafficking, the production and distribution of pornography, of free-lance arms dealing, predatory finance, political censorship, and lobbying for ‘first strike’ wars against perceived threats to the Jewish State.

    These activities comprise a vast, coordinated, and criminal enterprise.

    The entire Western world is impacted by Zionist pressures. These machinations have given us horrific and unnecessary wars. Yet the perpetrators are never punished or even fingered as wrong-doers. Never. Instead they are described as respectable ‘leaders’.

    On the other hand, anti-Zionist states (Libya, Iraq, Syria, Iran and Palestine) have been defamed, crushed, damaged or ruined via crypto-Israeli political machinations spearheaded by these same respectable ‘leaders’ and their cheerleaders in the MSM.

    Even Russia’s lingering alliance with Syria and Iran have pushed Zio-Washington in the direction of armed hostilities with the world’s second greatest nuclear power. Ardent Zionists are behind this nuclear saber-rattling.

    Meanwhile, in London, Brussels and Washington, unprincipled censorship campaigns are being unleashed to eradicate anti-Zionist ‘hate speech’ as well as anti-Israel activism, including BDS. Bold intellectuals such as Gilad Atzmon are being targeted.

    Together, we must stop the stop these entrenched criminals and enemies Free Speech.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @Dave Bowman
  68. renfro says:

    Our White House has become a place for the Jews religious meetings

    Words of Torah and about Chanukah tonight in the White House

    • Replies: @L Bean
    , @Anon
  69. renfro says:

    Our White House has also become a meeting place for Jews political clubs and activities.

    ‘Great hosting YU’s Political Action Club at the @WhiteHouse to answer questions about our peace efforts & the US-Israel relationship. Always great to see students getting involved. Glad to have been able to pray mincha (the afternoon service) w/ the students.

  70. @jilles dykstra

    I’ve never seen evidence that Atzmon cares about the destruction of the West. Has he ever said a word about the repeopling of Europe or U.S. by others? His only concern seems to be Palestine.

    I understand that Palestinians are the victims, and not the Israelis. But I save my sympathy for allies. My guess is that like most Jewish anti-Zionists, Atzmon has no issue with Jewish power, as long as it’s not centered in Israel, and its victims are not Palestinians.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @renfro
  71. unseated says:
    @Anonymous41

    Interestingly the play, based on Rachel Corrie’s emails and diaries, was put together by Katharine Viner and Alan Rickman. The former is now in charge at the Guardian, which is not known for its anti-Zionist views. Rather it has been one of the attack dogs against Corbyn for being “anti-semitic” in view of his pro-Palestinian stance. Viner seems to have been bought.

  72. L Bean says:
    @renfro

    …wearing Gucci loafers, lol.

  73. Anon[816] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    Thanks Jewcon, Libertarian gatekeeper. What’s that you say, you’re an “anti-statist” liberatarian while protecting ethnonationalist Jews? Go fuck yourself.

    Sorry, we’ve had enough of the progressivism (destroyers of all ethnonationalism apart from the Jews) that your kind has abetted via facilitation of power vacuums.

    Don’t think that you are getting off scot free when collections demands payment for what you have cost our civilizations.

    No, your kind will be first priority because you are worse than the progressives that you assist. You are fundamentally deceptive in a manner that removes the option for legitimate choice for the masses. You are the West’s most malignant cancer because your only purpose is to create confusion in the political sphere.

  74. Anon[816] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    Statistically, seven out of ten of those Jews did not vote for Trump. The highest rate for any religious group in the nation.

    Yet, they have use of the White House purely for religious meetings.

    Now that’s power.

  75. Anon[816] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Sorry, I wasn’t aware that “antisemitic” was a legitimate rhetorical argument. In fact, I’m sure that it isn’t.

    In the future, you may wish to complain using terms that have not simply some to mean “against the interests of Jews”.

  76. Wally says:
    @annamaria

    Yet more proof that The Big Lie is a fraud is found in the fact that Jews are arming “Nazis”.

    As if Jews would actually do that IF the fake “holocaust” narrative was fact.

    http://www.codoh.com

  77. annamaria says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “My guess is that like most Jewish anti-Zionists, Atzmon has no issue with Jewish power…”

    — A little psyop from “OilcanFloyd.”

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  78. @Paul Dailey

    The idea that a jew is going to help the so-called “goyim” break out of the death grip of zionist white genocide is a insult and those that believe it are actually criminal.

    The idea that “The Jews” act as a monolithic entity is false.

    You will find some of the most sincere and strident critics of Zionism are actually Jews.

    Good on them. They (by definition) establish the logical absurdity of the claim that criticism of Israel is an act of antisemitism.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Art
  79. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old Smokey

    First of all, this is a tired conversation that you are well behind in. We need not have it over and over again. Catch up.

    The idea that “The Jews” act as a monolithic entity is false.

    No, it is not. To state as much is to misunderstand what Judaism is. If you misunderstand what Judaism is, you have no qualified platform from which to comment.

    To be ethnically Jewish is to accept Jewish Messianic eschatology, which is the ultimate goal of Zionism. Thus, it doesn’t matter if a Jew pays lip service to accepting or rejecting Zionism. Ultimately, their goal is the same and the creation of an opposing camp is false opposition. At best, they disagree on the method of their ultimate religious goal. At most, I offer that most visible public disagreement is intentional false opposition.

    If you buy into their typical false opposition game (see the Neocons and their supposed opposition to the Far Left that they more stridently work to disarm the Far Right against), then you are at best an unwitting tool. Wise people would politically isolate you and hold you in suspicion until you started articulating political-reality how it actually manifests. No offense intended, but this isn’t exactly early in the game and so manners are a bit of a luxury now.

    The only way for a Jew to be truly anti-Zionist is if they reject Jewish identity and all that it implies as a whole. Those former Jews are the only extremely small contingent that qualifies as a break from otherwise politically monolithic Judaism.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Old Smokey
  80. anonymous[538] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    “. . . a tale told by an idiot, full of high intelligence and low intelligence meanderings and gobbledygook, signifying nothing.”

  81. renfro says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    But I save my sympathy for allies.

    Who do you see as US allies?

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  82. anonymous[538] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    ” it doesn’t matter if a Jew pays lip service to accepting or rejecting Zionism. Ultimately, their goal is the same and the creation of an opposing camp is false opposition. At best, they disagree on the method of their ultimate religious goal. At most, I offer that most visible public disagreement is intentional false opposition.”

    yup, yup and yup

    very important understanding

    all should take heed.

    besides, how do you really know who’s who?

  83. Skeptikal says:

    My god, this is absolutely crazy and horrifying. I used to hang out in Islington in the seventies. It was a cool, as yet basically ungentrified place. Working class. but the gentrification factor was gaining speed. but, it looks like there are still plenty of poor and/or working poor in Islington.

    Who are these Islington bosses now who do Adelson’s bidding? ARe they from the earlier wave of left-wing gentrifiers who are now leftist totalitarians in the service of the Racist State?
    Are they Jewish?

  84. Skeptikal says:
    @Emblematic

    But what is that round area in the middle of his forehead?
    Has something been inserted there?

  85. Skeptikal says:
    @Wally

    This suggests that maybe a tax revolt is what is needed in the USA to stop the spigot of funds to Israel. What percentage of the annual tax returns goes to Israel? Perhaps activists should start a campaign to withhold that percentage of total taxes owed.

  86. Ross says:

    If a jew calls a black man ‘a smelly black’, and the black man responds by accusing the jew of racism, is that accusation of racism anti-semitic?

  87. Wade says:
    @annamaria

    I like your optimism. Indeed I’ve often thought that the wide dissemination of information over the internet might be something they were ill-equipped to handle.

    However, Youtube is banning channels left and right. Patreon is folding. Gab folded. I’d say the ADL is doing pretty good in the modern age.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  88. The West: going…going…going…gone. It may now be safer for Jews to criticise Zionist crimes in Israel than elsewhere.

  89. @Anon

    If you misunderstand what Judaism is, you have no qualified platform from which to comment.

    Perhaps you should heed your own advice there..

    To be ethnically Jewish is to accept Jewish Messianic eschatology, which is the ultimate goal of Zionism

    It might be an idea to get out more and actually meet some real life Jews before forming your opinion.

    fwiw) My partner is Jewish, her side of the family do not support Israel, they do not identify with Judaism and find the whole supremacism thing to be utterly stupid. If you were to ever meet her, you would call her a Zionist at your peril. (for good reason)
    She lost a good fraction of her family during WW2. They were arrested in Prague, sent to the labor camps and never seen again. She doesn’t believe the holocaust propaganda – that they were sent to the gas chambers- but probably died from either typhus or hunger. She blames organised Jewry for the war, knows that Jewish money funded the Nazis and knows that Jewish money could have saved her family but Zionism needed many Jews to suffer in order to form their precious promised land. Her hatred for Zionism is visceral.
    Do a search on: Rabbi Michael Ber Weissmandl Dieter Wisliceny if you want to learn some history.

    We do have Jewish friends, some of them Israeli Jews, and she is not shy with respect to sharing her rage against any who would use her families misfortune to justify the theft of Palestinian land.

    So, she for one asks; who tf are you to tell her what it is to be Jewish ?

    I grant you that her views are in the minority.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
    , @anon
  90. @Tyrion 2

    ‘…doesn’t even involve doubling down on calling for the ethnic cleansing of Israel.’

    ? Israel was ethnically cleansed in 1948. Why would anyone call for it now?

  91. Wally says: • Website
    @Anon

    Generally, all powerful people, a subset of a group, are intelligent. But so what? Nothing new about it.

    In spite of Jew self promotion in an attempt to get everyone to think that they as a group are the most intelligent people on the planet, they certainly are not. Not even close.

    After all, if Jews were really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid ‘6,000,000 & gas chambers’.

  92. Wally says:
    @lavoisier

    But the Jews have their ace-in-the-hole which enables it all, the fake & impossible “holocaust”.
    That ridiculous narrative, which is forced own everyone’s throat, mandated by laws against free speech, enforced by vicious attacks, harassment & coercion, grants them impunity against effective criticism.
    It gives them immense political power, massive amounts of cash & preferential treatment.
    The usefulness of the fake “holocaust’ as a weapon is the very reason it was invented in the first place. That’s why we see all those opposed to violent Zionism and the destructive, Jew controlled ‘left’ labelled as “Nazis”.
    Absolutely nothing will change until the “6,000,000” scam is rejected.

    Just one example:

    There are over 100 “Holocaust” related “museums” in the US alone, all receive US taxpayer funding for an overwhelmingly highly paid Jew staff.
    Here are facts on just one of them, the so called ‘US ‘Holocaust’ Memorial Museum:
    Tax exempt cash taken in by USHMM, aka: ‘Holocau$t’ Theme Park, for fiscal year 2016 which supports huge salaries for Jews only, with most of the remaining money going to Jews & Zionist organizations:
    $151,826,695.00
    https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/042717-IRS-Form-990-FY16.pdf
    US taxpayers money to the USHMM in the 2017 budget:
    56,999,500.00
    https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/20160209-fy17-pres-budget-request.pdf

    http://www.codoh.com

  93. Nonny says:
    @Byrresheim

    But Corbyn spoke up loudly for Julian Assange, didn’t he? No?

  94. cassandra says:
    @Paul Dailey

    As a matter of interest-conflict, I tend to agree; we really won’t have an honest discourse until everyone can be heard equally. But in a society where speech isn’t quite free, 2 things need to be kept in mind.

    First, people like Unz, Atzmon, Shahak and Sand, while Jewish, are providing valueable information we wouldn’t have otherwise. I’d go further, in that I do think they write sincerely, given the amount of lightning they attract, although you might disagree.

    Second, gentiles aren’t permitted to discuss these subjects as openly as Jewish authors: the axe of AntiSemitism may be brought down at any time to marginalize them. The most courageous, like Daniel Irving and the folks at codoh, who have spoken out are at least denigrated, and possiblydeported and imprisoned.

    I’m grateful to anyone who shows me facts I wouldn’t otherwise know, regardless of viewpoint, and I reject only outright liars. In all cases, assessing veracity is my responsibility.

  95. Nonny says:

    Was the Weimar Republic in 1930 in a worse state than GB today, or not? Is there a Final Solution to this problem?

    Hitler’s mistake was in believing the Jews are a race, itself a victory of the Jewish lobby of the time. If he had not been controlled by it he might have a better reputation today.

  96. Art says:
    @Byrresheim

    An antisemite used to be a man who disliked jews.

    Now an antisemite is a man disliked by jews.

    Those words are a take on Joe Sobran’s quote.

    He was a create American writer of the 1960’s 70’s – destroyed by the Jews.

    Joe Sobran, Recovered From the Ashes

    The conservative great tied himself to a stake and lit a match. But that doesn’t mean we don’t have much to learn from his work.

    “Joe Sobran,” I muttered. He looked at me side-eyed. “It’s dangerous to have his stuff lying around,” I joked. My host smiled. “He was a good friend, and the best writer of his generation.”

    My friend’s opinion is one he shares with Ann Coulter, of all people, as well as yours truly. That’s no small praise, given he was of the same generation as William F. Buckley, Christopher Hitchens, and Gay Talese.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/joe-sobran-recovered-from-the-ashes/comment-page-1/

  97. Art says:
    @Tyrion 2

    This article should have a been a hole in one. Instead the writer whacked himself in the foot. But I guess he can’t help himself.

    Oh my – he is at it again – our little brown shirted Jew howler monkey is screeching “they are stupid they are stupid”. It is always the same message (low IQ I guess.)

    Hey man – where is the rest of your troop of Hasbara monkeys?

    (He is kind of cute.)

  98. Art says:
    @Old Smokey

    You will find some of the most sincere and strident critics of Zionism are actually Jews.

    Problem – BIG BIG problem — Zero of those good Jews are in power.

  99. @Tyrion 2

    When you can’t rebut anything except by calling the anti-Semitic card and rhetorical begging you must know you’re losing.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  100. @Godfree Roberts

    Links for what ?
    But let me disappoint you right now, my knowledge comes from books.
    The great thing about books is that once printed, they cannot be changed.
    Internet makes it possible to change anything at any moment.
    I have very little trust in internet ‘knowledge’.
    Of course also books can lie, sometimes quite convincingly, such as
    Deborah Lipstadt, ‘Denying the holocaust’, 1993, New York
    Brigitte Hammann, ‘Hitler’s Vienna, A Dictator’s Apprenticeship’, Oxford New York, 1999
    But the great thing about truth is consistency.
    Quite easy to lie, impossible to suppress all truth.
    This is where both mentioned books fail, describing a coherent picture consistent with many other books.
    It seems that in the english translation, from the original french, of Wiesel’s book about the Auschwitz camps the huge fires in the pits, into which babies were thrown alive, are no longer mentioned.
    Auschwitz had a very high ground water level, fires in pits an impossibility, unless elaborate pumping installations had been installed.

  101. @jilles dykstra

    The Balfour Declaration was signed and handed over several months after the United States declared war on Germany. So Godfree Roberts is right to be sceptical.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  102. Anon[575] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old Smokey

    Perhaps you should heed your own advice there..

    I know the religion well enough (and probably better than 99% of interested gentiles). What exactly do you wish to debate?

    It might be an idea to get out more and actually meet some real life Jews before forming your opinion.

    Should I? I’ve worked with Brooklyn Orthodox Jews over a long period of time in their businesses. True story. I like them very much as people (generally), but I also know what they believe in. Aside from what I know independently, their children have lesser refined self-filters than the adults.

    fwiw) her side of the family do not support Israel,

    Irrelevant if they believe in the Jewish eschatology or politically identify with the Jewish group in any way.

    they do not identify with Judaism

    Debatable. Do they champion progressive causes that were invented or deeply refined by Jews (see cultural Marxism) while she resides outside of Israel? In such a context, even gentiles act as Jews.

    True-believer progressive-Jews are not “not a Jew” when pushing subversive politics that were largely promoted when not created by Jews. If she is an American nationalist then we might have something interesting to discuss.

    I grant you that she seems to wish to disavow herself from ethnonationalist Judaism, which as you alter seem to concede is a rare effort of non-duplicity on the part of Jews. In this political sphere that is what we generally refer to as a NaXalt argument. Its held to be a fallacy. If you aren’t familiar with the term, it is widely discussed on the web and will be discoverable with a google search.

    If they don’t politically identify with the group (and are not pushing Jewish Marxist politics in the United States), then technically they are not acting as Jews but one of their kids could easily re-identify if they are matrilineally Jewish.

    and find the whole supremacism thing to be utterly stupid. If you were to ever meet her, you would call her a Zionist at your peril. (for good reason)

    See above.

    She lost a good fraction of her family during WW2. They were arrested in Prague, sent to the labor camps and never seen again. She doesn’t believe the holocaust propaganda – that they were sent to the gas chambers- but probably died from either typhus or hunger. She blames organised Jewry for the war, knows that Jewish money funded the Nazis and knows that Jewish money could have saved her family but Zionism needed many Jews to suffer in order to form their precious promised land. Her hatred for Zionism is visceral.

    Okay, so she is politically not ethnonationalist Jewish. That’s how I would approach her, personally. She would at least be more tolerable than the pro-ethno-Jewish gentile progressives that I routinely encounter in academia. However, again, see the above comment about her progeny. Her best bet would be to encourage only her sons to procreate and only with non-Jewish women.

    Do a search on: Rabbi Michael Ber Weissmandl Dieter Wisliceny if you want to learn some history.

    Will do.

    We do have Jewish friends, some of them Israeli Jews, and she is not shy with respect to sharing her rage against any who would use her families misfortune to justify the theft of Palestinian land.

    Good for her. However, I have no opinion on the Palestinians. That sounds like a personal cause for her and leads me to believe that she might have some Far Left sympathies (typical for her group, though I wouldn’t hold a pro-Palestinian stance against her as a sole position).

    So, she for one asks; who tf are you to tell her what it is to be Jewish ?

    Easy. I know how their rules work. She and her children are technically racial Jews and Jews believe in that. However, I respect that she is politically distancing herself from her racial group as defined through matrilineal descent. If she does not encourage and end to her families technical racial Judaism, they will likely re-identify down the road.

    I grant you that her views are in the minority.

    Thanks. I can tell that you like her. I know Jews that I am deeply fond of as well. That does not change the fact that I know what the Jewish (speaking broadly of organized Jewish Power) sociopolitical game is nor what their religion states. Too much empathy for individuals bred the poison tolerance (allowance for evil) that is primarily responsible for this mess, which like it or not is going to eventually cause mass death (it already does, but the MSM does a stellar job of burying or ignoring the reporting). In short, such empathy for individuals does not generally lead to saving lives when entire civilizations are left vulnerable and otherwise negatively disrupted as a result. It merely relocates where and when the tax is paid.

    • Replies: @Anon
  103. Anon[575] • Disclaimer says:

    Antisemitism = any position that is against Jewish interests.

  104. @Godfree Roberts

    Indeed America was in the war months before the Balfour Declaration was signed and handed to one of the Rothschilds.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  105. Anon[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old Smokey

    Do a search on: Rabbi Michael Ber Weissmandl Dieter Wisliceny if you want to learn some history.

    I read the Wikipedia entry. What was I supposed to learn?

    All that I got out of it was yet another highly-improbable and yet highly-romantic magic-Jew escape story from the death camps.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dov_Weissmandl

    Rabbi Weissmandl escaped from the sealed train by sawing open the lock of the carriage with an emery wire he had secreted in a loaf of bread. He jumped from the moving train, breaking his leg in the process, and hid in a secret bunker in suburban Bratislava.

    Ian Fleming couldn’t have penned a more riveting escape story for James Bond.

    Fancy the sheer volume of those escape stories, leading to so many survivors from a nation that was supposedly otherwise efficient enough to transport and completely incinerate well-over one hundred million pounds of dead flesh in four short years; using nothing but soldier labor to move the bodies through narrow door in the gas chamber room and then to the incinerator. There were so many survivors, such as this Rabbi, in a fully militarized zone of otherwise magically efficient ethnic extermination. Truly amazing stuff. I suppose that the majority of the German army must have been instead busy with moving those bodies through that chamber door.

    • Replies: @Old Smokey
  106. annamaria says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    I meant that you operate as a hasbarist. When you, “OilcanFloyd”(?) personally show a principled courage that matches in any way the courage of Arzmon, then your opinion of him would have any weight. Otherwise, your post smacks of hasbarists’ tactics of changing the main topic of a discussion when the discussion addresses the zionists’ misdeeds.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  107. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    That’s not what I did. I correctly added that label but his argument was merely that he fantasises that Jews did the worst thing ever 70 years ago ergo anyhing any of them do ever is bad.

    This is a stupid argument. Yes, it is still stupid whenever it is made and about any group of people. Even when, unlike in this case, it isn’t a fantasy.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  108. annamaria says:
    @Wade

    “…the he ADL is doing pretty good in the modern age.”

    The Talmudists’ scheming was doing pretty good in the previous ages as well. And look what had happened to Talmudists in one country after another. — People did not appreciate Talmudic immorality. The Jewish epos is filled with rabid hatred towards their former hosts. All of them. The Russophobia of Dm. Alperovich (of the treasonous CrowdStrike fame) and Anne Applebaum (a presstitutte in service to the leading disinformation centers the Atlantic Council and Integrity Initiative) makes a telling reference.

    The choice of hosts for Jews has been dwindling, whereas the information about Jewish crimes has become available and will not go away. Who can forget the zionists’ ongoing efforts to hasten the revival of Nazism in Ukraine? The ADL and other main Jewish organizations are at the forefront of support for banderism. This is how they inflict mortal wounds to Shoah-biz.

    Intermarriages and the subhuman polices of Jewish State will eventually destroy the concept of Jewishness. Moreover, thanks to the historical records (and the ongoing Wars for Israel), the concept of Jewishness has been acquiring an image of something indecent and repulsive. As a result, some Jews prefer to conceal their Jewishness; the wikipedia bios of many prominent Jews contains zero information about their Jewish roots. This is a good beginning.

  109. @Wizard of Oz

    The USA was in the war politically and economically, on the British side, all the time, thus since mid 1914
    Charles Callan Tansill, ‘Amerika geht in den Krieg’, Stuttgart 1939 (America goes to War, 1938)

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  110. @Anon

    I read the Wikipedia entry. What was I supposed to learn?

    All that I got out of it was yet another highly-improbable and yet highly-romantic magic-Jew escape story from the death camps.

    Come on, surely you know that wikipedia is not a particularly deep well for historical fact?

    Well, the story basically goes like this;
    Rabbi Michael Ber Weissmandl is able to negotiate a deal with the Nazi high command in eastern Europe (Dieter Wisliceny) for the suspension of Jews to the labor camps (this was in 42 or 43.. I forget exactly.)
    A deposit was paid ~something in the order of $60k, and the transportation of Jews was halted for 6 weeks iirc).
    The Rabbi was to raise the rest of the funds, totaling $2M, and the Jews of Eastern Europe would be put on trains to exit German held territory… basically for less than the cost of the train fare, per person.
    The response he received from the wealthy Jews in Switzerland in the organisation set up specifically for the purpose of defending Jewish interests was (and I am paraphrasing here):
    You will not receive a single penny to free these people because we have to be seen to have suffered a great catastrophe in order to stand at the bargaining table once the war is over, and the land of Palestine is free of Ottoman control so that we can legitimize our claim on that land. One living Jew in the new land of Israel is worth more than 1000 dead Jews in Europe.

    ~See if you can find his diary entry, it is there in black and white.

    Two hugely important points here:

    1) The holocaust narrative is false; the Nazis were quite happy to export the Jews en-mass.
    2) Zionist power brokers actively enabled the so called “holocaust” (to the extent that it was real) as a political bargaining chip to legitimize their (land) claim and to coerce the Jews to migrate to Israel.

    ~os.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @SolontoCroesus
  111. @Wizard of Oz

    He probably never read the Harold L Ickes diaries, the shock in Washington when senator Nye in 1938 or 1939 discovered the diplomatic correspondence between the USA and GB about the declaration.
    Pearl Harbour saved the USA from nasty revelations.
    For those who do not know, senator Nye investigated why the USA went to war militarily in Europe in WWI.
    A long time was negotiated about the final text of the declaration, not just between USA and GB, with zionists and zionist organisations.
    The words ‘national home’ indicate part of the compromise, ‘national home’ legally means nothing.
    King Saud interpreted it as a jewish province in Palestine.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  112. geokat62 says:
    @Old Smokey

    and the land of Palestine is free of Ottoman control so that we can legitimize our claim on that land.

    It appears that the old rabbi may have had his historical notes mixed up. Palestine was in the hands of the Brits at that time and not under Ottoman control.

    • Replies: @Old Smokey
  113. Mulegino1 says:
    @Tyrion 2

    The Jews as a historical collective have a notoriously bad record.

    I like the hotel guest analogy: if you were asked to leave a hotel due to bad or offensive behavior only once in your life, the fault could have lain with the hotel management, and the entire matter due to a misunderstanding. However, if you have been thrown out of hundreds of hotels for obnoxious behavior over the course of your lifespan, then chances are that the fault lies with you. Accordingly, the Jews have been expelled by almost every state or principality in which they have achieved their critical mass for stirring up trouble.

    Nobody is offended by the presence of the occasional Jewish dentist, deli owner, or pawn broker. But once the Jews gain their critical mass they invariably begin- via their infiltration of the eminent institutions and councils of government- to exercise undue influence on their host society and its culture, and that influence is in ninety-nine of one hundred instances, toxic, offensive and exploitative.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  114. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Mulegino1

    Actually, Jews survived and thrived far better than almost every single other minority group.

    Or to use your analogy, most others were never allowed into an hotel or were thrown out instantly or were killed in short time. Jews had an historically* amazing welcome and treatment in the vast majority of cases.

    *”historically amazing” here does not mean good in some cosmic sense, just far better than the absolute hostility that others received.

    A better analogy is that a husband probably argues more with his wife than anyone else, and certainly more than with some other individual whom he hates so he never sees, but that hardly makes his wife a terrible person who is accursed to stir up hostility.

    (It must be weird for you to have your argument, that probably sounds smart in your echo chamber of fools, thrown back at you and mean exactly the opposite of what you thought!)

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
    , @anon
    , @annamaria
    , @anon
  115. @Miro23

    It’s Berlin of the 1920’s all over again. At that time they controlled all the night clubs, the prostitution of poor from other European countries, the movie industry including the porn, and much else.
    The oft repeated ‘higher intelligence’ of the jews is a misnomer. This whole I.Q. testing is fake and doesn’t represent the true aim of the human race. Making more money, being the boss, turning a blind eye towards the less fortunate, using tribalism and race to keep down others is not a sign of I.Q. but a sure sign of networking under the radar of the larger social group where they reside.
    I have no animosity to Jews, but expect the same from them when they are criticized.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  116. Mulegino1 says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Nope. Jewry is universally despised because the only thing it brings to the table is (initially) cheap credit, which it uses to grab the host population by the neck and wring out every single penny it can, while subsequently corrupting the culture via its ancestral affinity for pimping, pornography and anti-cultural sewage. It is an ethnicity that has wasted most of its historical existence upon debating useless Talmudic rubbish and engaging in chronic ethnocentric whining and litigiousness.

    You (as a collective) were kicked out of your host societies because you are an unpleasant, whining, litigious, criminal, subterranean and toxic group which has historically had nothing to offer the nations but debt, criminality, usury, prostitution, low brow spectacle and subversion- the latter often accompanied by genocidal intent.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  117. I gave my opinion based on what I have read and heard of Aztmon. Whether or not Atzmon has put his neck on the line for Palestinians doesn’t really matter to me. Unlike, most Jewish Leftists, Atzmon is likely sincere in his anti-Israel views, but I don’t care about that, since I view the Jewish Left who support Jewish power outside of Israel as a bigger problem than Zionists, and I’ve never seen evidence that Atzmon opposes what Jewish power is doing to non-Jews outside of Palestine.

    I’m against organized Jewry in general, not just Zionists, which is hardly hasbara. The phony anti-Israel position of the Jewish Left is often used to mask their corrosive, hateful, and aggressive politics towards non-Jews outside of Palestine (mostly white Christians in the West) just as much as hasbara subterfuge is supposed to mask the crimes and intentions of Zionists in Palestine. It hardly matters to me if Aztmon is a friend to Palestinians if he supports those who are trying to destroy me in my own land.

    • Replies: @mark green
    , @annamaria
  118. @renfro

    I don’t see any government as an ally to the U.S. majority population. The Dalai Lama has made some encouraging statements, and I think Orban and Putin have also stood against the repeopling of tbe West with non-Europeans, but I don’t know that it means anything. I certainly don’t view any Zionist as an ally. Supporting Palestinians against Israel is a good thing, but doing so means nothing when the American nation, demographics, and culture are under attack, especially when most anti-Zionist Jews support the “transformation” of America. The fact that the U.S. government has been hijacked doesn’t make Palestine my problem or responsibility. Most Palestinians/Muslims in the West readily align with Leftist Jews against the majority white Christian populations anyway. They all deserve one another, and need to be bottled up in the Middle East together.

  119. @annamaria

    Post #121 is a reply to you. I thought I hit the reply button, but apparently didn’t.

  120. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Mulegino1

    Jews must rank as the most often welcomed, most looked after and generally most popular minority ever.

    The tragedy of the Holocaust was not only that it happened but that it happened even with the above being true; hence the pendulum swinging so hard to minoritarianism since.

  121. Mulegino1 says:

    The “tragedy of the Holohoax” is that it never happened but notwithstanding, this piece of badly crafted (ergo Jewish) fiction was used as an excuse to wreck most of Europe and wreak havoc in the Middle East.

    Jewry is never welcomed anywhere, except where it has never before planted its flag of usurious exploitation, cultural corruption, and genocidal intention. The Jews are to the cultural and societal realm are what the Gypsies are to the physical landscape- frauds, swindlers, sowers of corruption and litterbugs.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Anonymous
  122. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Mulegino1

    The facts disagree with you. Name a minority that was more often and more widely welcomed in the world.

    You seem to have a problem understanding that very few people are as nutty as you.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Anonymous
  123. anon[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old Smokey

    Monolithic organization or movement doesn’t exist . Even in religion ,it doesn’t .

  124. @Old Smokey

    1) The holocaust narrative is false; the Nazis were quite happy to export the Jews en-mass.
    2) Zionist power brokers actively enabled the so called “holocaust” (to the extent that it was real) as a political bargaining chip to legitimize their (land) claim and to coerce the Jews to migrate to Israel.

    Please permit me to add, especially to “Zionist power brokers actively enabled the so called “holocaust”: zionists were selective about which Jews were to be holocausted.

    1. The zionist project in Palestine was built on eugenic principles from the get-go; Arthur Ruppin, who “created Hebrew culture in Palestine,” was an award-winning eugenicist. According to Etan Bloom’s dissertation/biography of Ruppin (for TelAviv University), Ruppin defined the nature of the “human material” that was to be selected for the “new Jew” who would migrate to and settle in Palestine.

    Eastern European Jews were low on the totem pole of suitable human material. One group of E. European Jews who had made aliyeh had to be sent back because they failed to fit in.

    2. Pardon the repetition of this tidbit of information; I maintain that it is explosive:
    On or about Feb. 14, 1933, Louis Brandeis, capo of Zionist Jews worldwide, directed to Rabbi Stephen Wise that
    “all Jews must leave Germany . . . all 587,000 Jews must leave . . . no Jew should remain in Germany.”

    Rabbi Wise relates this conversation in his autobiography, The Challenging Years, and Edwin Black quotes it in The Transfer Agreement.

    Mention of the number of Jews — 587,000 — is highly significant: that is the number of German Jews in Germany, but there were perhaps as many as 2 million East European Jews who had fled to/sought refuge in Germany from Poland and Russia.
    As Black explains, German Jews were needed in Palestine for their wealth and skills; the German educational achievements and experiences they brought with them to Palestine, in addition to industrial materiel and know-how, formed the foundation for prosperity in Israel that it could not have achieved on the ‘merits’ of those Jews who were the most ardent zionists — Russian & Polish Jews.
    Brandeis was not in the least concerned with the fate of Jews other than German Jews. In a volume of his Letters, Rabbi Wise notes that
    [to his wife]; Washington, DC, 1933: “LDB (Louis D Brandeis) . . . was most bitter about the boycott, saying the economic extermination of 600,000 is worse than pogroms involving 60 lives.”

    At the time Brandeis was eager to remove wealthy and educated German Jews from Germany to Palestine, Jews elsewhere in Europe were in mortal danger and appealing to various Jewish organizations to save them. Moreover, Stalin was killing people by the millions, while Rabbi Wise’s daughter was engaged in extensive travel in Soviet Russia, and FDR was making end-runs around his State Department, delegating Henry Morgenthau, Jr. to forge a United States alliance with Stalin’s Communists.

    SIDEBAR: — think about the case of Hershel Grynszpan who shot the German diplomat in Paris over Grynszpan’s distress over his parents’ inability to transit into Germany from Poland.

    Consider also the statement of German ambassador to US Hans Luther, quoted in Jewish Telegraphic Agency archives, that
    “limitation of Jewish influence in Germany was being conducted with the greatest possible consideration toward the old native Jewish families who, he said; had proven themselves good Germans and indicated that it was directed against the Eastern European Jews who had overflooded the country since the War” May 26, 1933 http://www.jta.org/1933/05/26/archive/nazi-jewish-policies-political-not-religious-dr-luther-asserts

    • Replies: @Old Smokey
  125. anon[538] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Actually, Jews survived and thrived far better than almost every single other minority group.

    • LOL: Tyrion 2
  126. @jilles dykstra

    That is potentially interesting but the “national home” compromise wording stuff is commonplace while your reference to Ickes and Nye is opaque. Also hat to see why 1938 disclosures were protected by a December 1941 event.

  127. @jilles dykstra

    Irrelevant to the point being made.

  128. @OilcanFloyd

    Hi Oilcan. Allow me to say that Gilad Atzmon is far more aggressive and outspoken against the toxic, multifaceted elements of Zio-Jewish power than you realize.

    Atzmon has little patience for pompous, gatekeeping Leftist Jews you find at televised Code Pink protests or at ‘Jewish Voice for Peace’ rallies. In fact, not only does Atzmon call himself an “ex-Jew’, but he goes right for the Jewish juggler on a host of ‘touchy’ issues involving Jewishness itself.

    Atzmon bravely examines the destructive impact of Jewish power which goes far beyond their conquest of Palestine.

    Here’s a brilliant article Atzmon wrote on the matrix of Jewish identity. In it, he explores many of the self-serving taboos that organized Jewry has concocted concerning the alleged ‘Holocaust’ as well as other kosher myths.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2007/03/03/from-esther-to-aipac/

    PS- I liked this article so much, I included it in my book ‘Persecution, Privilege & Power’, along with a few dozen other classic articles that explore the multi-headed beast called ‘global Jewry’. Cheers.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  129. @mark green

    These activities comprise a vast, coordinated, and criminal enterprise

    Bravo. A brilliant commentary – Thank you, Mark.

    We can take much comfort from the fact that the majority of the deranged, obsessed, fanatical, anti-White racist psychopaths do not have sufficient intelligence or perception to understand that their behaviour is heading them inexorably towards the same lamppost nooses and firing squads which have always been reserved for ruthless, murderous, nation-wrecking parasites and lunatics.

  130. Anon[926] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I congratulate you on your paranormal ability to know more about his Jewish partner than he does. But I question your confidence in what you learned about Jews from associating with Orthodox Jews for a long time. You are aware I suppose that most American Jews are, still, not Orthodox?

  131. annamaria says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “historically amazing”

    According to Tyrion 2, all Jewish epics should be rewritten, whether a story of Jews in Egypt, or a bloody story of the easy-morals Esther in Persia, or the Iberian chronicles and fragments of the German and Russian histories involving the ever demanding and scheming tribe.

    Other peoples managed to respect their host counries’ traditions. Not so the Talmudists.

  132. annamaria says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “It hardly matters to me if Aztmon is a friend to Palestinians if he supports those who are trying to destroy me in my own land.”
    1. If
    2. You are a slanderer
    3. If (IF) you care about “your land” then sharpen your attention towards the real traitors among the population.
    4. This forum is more than about Palestinians — and your insistence betrays your desire to shift the discussion in a “proper” direction
    5. Artzmon does the heavy lifting in a fight against zionists, whereas you are whining about the “purity” of the fighter.

  133. annamaria says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “Name a minority that was more often and more widely welcomed in the world.”

    Tyrion 2, why there was Warsaw Ghetto in Poland? — According to you, that was a sign of special hospitality.

    Why there used to be so much squealing about antisemitism in Russia? Russia has been a multi-ethnic society for centuries but only Jews were meted out. Why? — According to you, that was a sign of special love for Jews. (The documented facts are quite clear about the pernicious activities of Jewish Bolsheviks and about their boundless hatred towards Russian culture and Russian people, even when Russians were ethnically Ukrainians or Tatars).

    Why are patriotic Americans weary about Jewish Power? — You pretend that you never heard about the weariness. Perhaps you are too fond of Schumer and Cardin and other Israel-firsters and zionized opportunists. But Israel-firsters are not exactly patriotic Americans — they are patriotic Israelis using the US for the benefit of “promised land” and “their” people. There is nothing “nutty” about the disgust felt by patriotic Americans towards the leading zionists. — The zionists are not welcome.

  134. @geokat62

    It appears that the old rabbi may have had his historical notes mixed up.
    Palestine was in the hands of the Brits at that time and not under Ottoman control.

    Yes of course.
    fwiw) the fault here is my recollection, not his words (that don’t refer to the ottomans)

    The rest of it is more or less accurate I believe.

  135. @mark green

    Mark Green-

    First, thank you for mention of your book, Persecution, Privilege and Power.

    Second, Atzmon’s essay is compelling, but like others who are critical of “Jewishness” and the religion of holocaust, Atzmon still maintains against basic logic that the holocaust of Jews is real: while Atzmon establishes a parallel between the Esther/Purim event and the Holocaust; and makes it clear that ” though the moral is clear, the attempted genocide [of Jews by Persian] is fictional,” he treats the WW2 holocaust of Jews by Germans as if it were real.
    In my study of approximately 38 children’s books on Purim held by my local library, I discovered that the outcome of the Purim story — the slaughter of 75,000 innocent Persians as well as the massacre of Haman and his sons, was not mentioned.
    THAT parallel is maintained in the present-day holocaust narrative: seldom if ever do narratives of World War II mention, much less highlight, or condemn, the deliberate slaughter of at least 600,000 German civilians in firebombing raids planned and carried out with complicity of numerous Jewish agents; nor of the other atrocities planned and carried out against the German people.

    Third, another shortcoming in Atzmon’s essay involves his discussion of Rafael Medoff’s assertion that

    “a comparable [to the Esther-Mordechai] effort took place in modern times — in Washington, D.C., at the peak of the Holocaust.”
    In the article Medoff explores the similarities between Esther’s lobbying in Persia and her modern brothers lobbying within the FDR’s administration at the pick [peak] of WW2. . . .[in order to pressure FDR and US to] issue an executive order creating the War Refugee Board, a U.S. government agency to rescue refugees from Hitler.”

    The reality is, as Benjamin Ginsberg spells out in “How the Jews Defeated Hitler,” and as Peter Moreira conveys in “Henry Morgenthau, Jr., The Jew Who Defeated Hitler,” Esther-like Jewish lobbying efforts to destroy Germany and innocent German people began not only well before “the peak of WW2”; it began months, perhaps years before Hitler came to power in Germany therefore before any real threat to Jews in Germany existed.

    But once again, thank you, Mark Green, for bring to our attention Atzmon’s essay and your book.

  136. Ron Unz says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Well, I happened to be casually glancing at this thread, and noticed this reference, which I’d previously seen made on numerous occasions:

    the Purim story — the slaughter of 75,000 innocent Persians as well as the massacre of Haman and his sons

    I’d always had the strong impression that the whole Purim story was just totally fictional, not all that different from the Parting of the Red Sea and that sort of thing. Is there any actual evidence from e.g. the Persian archives that anything remotely like that ever happened?

    Aren’t Mordecai and Esther just versions of Marduk and Ishtar, two of the leading Babylonian gods? Would monotheistic Hebrews really have named their children after Babylonian gods? And doesn’t Haman sound like it might be a corruption of Ahriman, the Devil in the Zoroastrian religion?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  137. You don’t seem to get where I’m coming from. I am against Jewish politics across the board, and don’t care one bit about the Jewish family food fight.

  138. @SolontoCroesus

    Thanks SolontoCroesus, an excellent and insightful post. It is commentators such as yourself that make wading through the Hasbara BS worthwhile.

    One point I think needs discussion is that imho) Jewish culture has been “astroturfed” for a very long time, and a great percentage of the ills (correctly) attributed to Jewish influence in Goyim society are as a result of this.

    Jewish influence peddlers have historically spent more time and effort manipulating Jews than they have the Gentiles, to preserve Jewish identity separate from the Goy.

    Have a read of the “Times of Israel daily”… or, just ask a native born Israeli to describe their country’s history in the last century. They really have no clue.

    Israel is built on a narrative foundation that grossly mis-represents reality.
    ~ One crack in their wall is that if Israelis learn the truth, then some fraction of them will realize that the real enemy of the Jewish people (is) and always has been, organized Jewry itself.

  139. @SolontoCroesus

    seldom if ever do narratives of World War II mention, much less highlight, or condemn, the deliberate slaughter of at least 600,000 German civilians in firebombing raids planned and carried out with complicity of numerous Jewish agents; nor of the other atrocities planned and carried out against the German people.

    (emphasis added by myself)

    Is complicity the right word?
    My gut instinct suggests “at the behest of” might be more accurate.

    Churchill was a bought and paid for puppet,
    I think he was telling his own truth when he said that he sought to smash Germany for economic reasons. I’m not sure how Dresden et al, would have facilitated that?

    His string pullers, however;
    genuine psychopaths.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  140. @Ron Unz

    I’d always had the strong impression that the whole Purim story was just totally fictional, not all that different from the Parting of the Red Sea and that sort of thing. Is there any actual evidence from e.g. the Persian archives that anything remotely like that ever happened?

    Aren’t Mordecai and Esther just versions of Marduk and Ishtar, two of the leading Babylonian gods?

    The quick-and-dirty reply would be, Yeah, definitely: the Esther story was a Hebrew recast of other, similar tales told in the region.

    You wanna go for a bit more complexity?

    First, just because I love this concept: One crucial difference between Greek myths and the Hebrew myths is that belief was not demanded of the Greeks. It was understood that the myths of the gods were intended to provoke thought, posit a possibility, define boundaries, etc. Not so the Hebrew and Pauline-Christian stories (more is the pity and tragedy).

    Second, and this is really dense: Benzion Netanyahu assesses the historicity of the Esther story in the very first pages of his doorstop of a book, The Origins of the Inquisition. First, he observes that Jews who remained dispersed in Persia achieved prosperity in the first century. Then, Netanyahu dates the event to the second century of the Persian empire [~350 BC], and draws an “iron clad rule” from the “troubles” that, “though evidence is scarce,” are assumed to have developed.

    In Benzion’s words:

    “It would not be too far-fetched to assume that the troubles resulted from the growth of intolerance toward the prosperous Jewish community. For it is an iron-clad rule in the history of group relations: the majority’s toleration of every minority lessens with the worsening of the majority’s condition, especially when paralleled with a steady improvement of the minority’s status. Any serious decline in the power of the rulers is then seen by the people as a suitable opportunity to strike at the minority with its entire force; and this is probably what happened in Persia in the period of the disorders the tore the empire apart.(fn 9) But whatever the cause and nature of these developments, they did not occur at the start of the Diaspora but centuries after it began.”

    Netanyahu really gets into the weeds in almost 2 pages of footnotes / esoterica, the most pertinent being fn 8, which established that Jews enjoyed an “upward swing” in their first century in Persia, validated by the presence of Jewish courtiers in the courts of Persian kings in the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther; and fn 9:

    fn9:

    “[Josephus mentions conflicts in Against Apion . . .which speaks of religious persecutions of the Jews by the Persians and the note preserved by Eusebius in his Chronicles . . .about the deportation of Jewish captives to Hyrcania on the Caspian Sea. The religious persecutions are generally associated with the reign of Artaxerxes II (404 – 358) . . . The latter troubles suggest political conflict (perhaps echoed in the book of Judity), the former — social and religious tension (probably reflected in the book of Esther). The religious tension may have been aggravated by the establishment in Persia of the cult of Anahita, concerning which see Hoschander . . .Though working on an erroneous hypothesis that the book of Esther was an historical account, Hoschander helped establish its Persian origin against those of Graetz . . . who related the book to the final stage of Greek rule in Judea. ”

    I find that reference intriguing, that the Esther story arose in reaction to the “establishment of the cult of Anahita.” It is consistent with what I consider the major flaw of Abrahamism: its intolerance of any other form of religious worship. Maimonides wrote powerfully on this topic —
    Abraham and the Idol Shop, http://learn.conservativeyeshiva.org/introduction-to-rabbinic-midrash-1-lesson-1-avraham-and-the-idol-shop/

    I believe that, in addition to the concepts that Atzmon laid out about the parallels between Esther and Zionism/the Holocaust, a major tension played out between the German insistence on its own cultural origins and loyalties, and the Jewish belief that only its form of Abrahamism was acceptable and must be maintained as the basis of western civilization. My belief is bolstered by Susannah Heschel’s rant against Walter Grundmann’s attempt to define German Christianity apart from a Hebrew matrix — The Aryan Jesus; by the numerous withering attacks on Richard Wagner who spent 26 years synthesizing Greek and Nordic myths to produce The Ring Cycle; and by several present-day pop-culture writers (i.e. Steve Barry in Charlemagne’s Pursuit and Brad Meltzer in ??? (I forget)) who achieve bestseller status by denigrating German research into their ancient mythic origins.

    In summary, Yes!

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @anon
  141. @SolontoCroesus

    Jewish lobbying efforts to destroy Germany and innocent German people began not only well before “the peak of WW2″; it began months, perhaps years before Hitler came to power in Germany therefore before any real threat to Jews in Germany existed.

    Were they actually trying to destroy Germany at this stage (1933) or just make the lives of German Jews untenable in that country and force the Germans to eject them (presumably to Palestine)?
    That’s a question, not a statement..

    It’s interesting to note that the Irgun, terrorist organization was active in 1931 in Palestine and certainly active in Europe soon after. Their propaganda poster is instructive:

    This was used in Germany in 1933 and the text is informative.
    The rough translation is “only thus”

    Implicitly, only by armed conflict can we create our state of Israel.

    ergo,
    the destruction of Germany was the means to that end.

  142. @Old Smokey

    Both “complicit” and “at the behest of” are historically accurate:

    Some brief examples:

    Jewish persons were most definitely major players in planning and carrying out the firebombing of German civilians — Erich Mendelsohn and other Jewish architects, and also Jewish-controlled Hollywood studios collaborated with US Air Force and Standard Oil Company in perfecting, rehearsing and executing firebombing of German cities. Most people mention only British engagement in firebombing, but USA was also profoundly involved in one of the gravest war crimes of all times. No nation was ever destroyed as brutally and thoroughly as Germany was.

    Henry Morgenthau, Jr. conceived and managed to deploy the brutalization of Germans for at least two years after the war ended.
    It was not until mid- 1947 that George C Marshall said, essentially, Enough is Enough, and put a halt to the starvation of German people.

    Jewish persons were the sine qua non in involving USA in both world wars: Just one example of about two dozen prominent Jews at whose behest war was waged: Felix Frankfurter maintained lines of communication between Churchill, FDR, and zionist collectives in USA and throughout the world, maneuvering people and events to ensure that FDR would wage war against Germany.
    Bernard Baruch maintained constant contact with FDR and collaborated with FDR to give Mark Clark (also Jewish) directions to steal a march on the British and take Rome, which granted to US forces control over the Mediterranean as well as control of Italian air fields from which to continue firebombing of those German cities still standing.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  143. How the Jews come out of that proclaiming to be the victims deserving compensation and favor for all time, beggars belief.

    I guess a serious contemplation of WW2 (well at least the dirty truth of it) reveals the propaganda instrument that defines public perception of history… today.

  144. Depressingly familiar. The question is what is to be done?

  145. Anonymous[637] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1

    Jewry is never welcomed anywhere, except where it has never before planted its flag

    Also when the last episode has already been forgotten…. Then it’s harvest time again!!!!

  146. Anonymous[637] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    The facts disagree with you. Name a minority that was more often and more widely welcomed in the world.

    Trick question. Only migrants who are xenophobic enough to retain their seperate identity would even be eligible for inclusion in such a list.

    Most folk are much more reasonable and merge within a few generations.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  147. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anonymous

    Wrong, Jews have constantly merged into the nations they live in, and been merged into from those nations.

    Genetic tests prove it. So do my eyes when I look at people in Israel. Israeli Jews are probably the most diverse looking group in the world, because they are mixed in with people from all over the world…and there’s huge numbers of people with some Jewish heritage all over the world.

    So not “a trick question”. Go back and answer it you monomaniac.

  148. annamaria says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Thank you for the great historical outline.

  149. anon[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    “Any serious decline in the power of the rulers is then seen by the people as a suitable opportunity to strike at the minority with its entire force; and this is probably what happened in Persia in the period of the disorders the tore the empire apart.(fn 9) ”

    1 How does a minority defined by separateness of geographical origin ,mode of arrival, type of living ( diet religion dress , ) and closeness to the rulers achieve success as a group while the majority suffer ?

    2 Why does the ruler close to the successful minority become weak’?

    3 If it is expected and anticipated ,then why should this kind of aversion from the majority be viewed as something specific to Jewish ( aka antisemitism ? Why should this be a crime or hate speech or hate activity ?

    4 The tendency of the Jewish people to fight for more power and money should also be then seen as attack by minority on the majority and is of the same nature as that of the fight by the majority against the successful minority .

  150. Jazz musician at centre of antisemitism row denies he breached Islington gig ban, saying: It was Santa Claus on the sax, not me
    https://www.islingtongazette.co.uk//news/crime-court/jazz-musician-gilad-atzmon-antisemitism-islington-assembly-hall-council-ban-denies-santa-claus-1-5835034?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social_Icon&utm_campaign=in_article_social_icons

    These are from The Blockheads home page on Twitter
    So it all checks out. @BlockheadsPage were happy to have a notorious anti Semite on stage despite having been banned by the council for being such a shit. Ian Dury must be rolling in his grave ….

    Ian would have got you with his stick. It was the 70s people cared about real things not fake rubbish generated by foreign governments to cover their crimes now piss off.

    DvBGxBXWoAAdxrE.jpg

    • Troll: Colin Wright
  151. Miro23 says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    It’s Berlin of the 1920′s all over again. At that time they controlled all the night clubs, the prostitution of poor from other European countries, the movie industry including the porn, and much else.
    The oft repeated ‘higher intelligence’ of the jews is a misnomer. This whole I.Q. testing is fake and doesn’t represent the true aim of the human race. Making more money, being the boss, turning a blind eye towards the less fortunate, using tribalism and race to keep down others is not a sign of I.Q. but a sure sign of networking under the radar of the larger social group where they reside.

    Agree with this. It’s a profitable criminal enterprise with lifetime membership. I.Q. is a red herring.

  152. @SolontoCroesus

    ‘…Bernard Baruch maintained constant contact with FDR and collaborated with FDR to give Mark Clark (also Jewish) directions to steal a march on the British and take Rome, which granted to US forces control over the Mediterranean as well as control of Italian air fields from which to continue firebombing of those German cities still standing…

    Don’t get carried away. The Italian airfields had already fallen, and Rome was about to fall no matter what.

    What Mark Clark’s grab for glory did was to allow the German Tenth Army to escape to reestablish a front further up the boot, thus ensuring the Italian campaign would drag on into 1945.

    So it all certainly didn’t reflect well on Clark, but it was hardly an example of diabolically clever Jewish scheming. The net effect was to help prolong the existence of the Third Reich.

  153. “didn’t reflect well on Clark”

    — hence the harsh punishment he received, being courtmartialed and all, right? Wrong. Didn’t happen.
    Clark was not punished for upstaging the British general Alexander because Clark was obeying orders from FDR himself, delivered by FDR to Clark who was called back to the USA under highest secrecy, to meet with FDR at Baruch’s plantation in N. Carolina.

    “What Mark Clark’s grab for glory did was to allow the German Tenth Army to escape to reestablish a front further up the boot, thus ensuring the Italian campaign would drag on into 1945.”

    Yes, that did happen, contrary to the well-documented plans of coordination w/ Gen. Alexander, but from FDR’s POV it was the cost of a trade-off; the real prize, what Clark’s “grab for glory” really achieved was US control of Mediterranean and also of the post-war dominance of Europe, effectively shutting Churchill/ the British out of the Med and out of dominance certainly in Italy, and thereby, trade outreach to N. Africa and the Levant.

    Furthermore, controlling the Mediterranean from the West was the precursor to controlling the Eastern Mediterranean, where shortly after end of hostilities USA parked Sixth Fleet.

    Alexander (of Unz Forum) asked what “the International Order” is.
    The International Order is what USA established by vanquishing Europe AND destroying the British empire: a major nail in the coffin was pounded home when Mark Clark led Americans, sans British, to capture Rome and THEN closed down the city for a period of a week or so, making it impossible for British diplomats to take part in arranging the future governance of Rome/Italy. Churchill complained bitterly but, alas, to no avail.

    About the US control of Mediterranean, West and later East:
    You’re probably aware that zionist gangs engaged in bitter battles with both indigenous Arabs AND British mandate protectors in Palestine. The British were eventually driven out of Palestine and ‘protection’ of the zionist project devolved to USA. Clark’s march on Rome was the first in a complex series of steps by which, among other things, zionists shed meddling of pesky British — after having used them to gain the first toe-hold — and initiated the “special relationship” between USA and zionist Israel.

    But maybe I’m getting carried away.

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  154. @SolontoCroesus

    Solonto… I’m curious to hear your perspective on the SS Patria bombing?… there is just something in there gnawing away at the back of my mind.

    ergo,
    If it doesn’t make sense, one or more assumptions are wrong.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  155. anon[811] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    So the Jewish said while being driven out by the English who were holding the Magna Carta in their hands. Jewish said : ” We are the best immigrant . How could you forget that “?

  156. @Old Smokey

    Don’t know anything about it, Old Smokey.

    What have you learned about the Patria that makes your spidey senses tingle?

  157. Atzmona says:

    mmm what’s that smell…… I see why this site attracts racist Jew Haters like Flies to shit, damn it stinks here…..

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