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Earlier: Peter Brimelow’s “Time To Rethink Immigration”—The Twenty Year Anniversary Edition

The Washington Post Op Ed page just carried Trump’s xenophobia is an American tradition — but it doesn’t have to be| Some have always pushed to keep out immigrants, but people have always fought back, too, [by Erika Lee, November 26, 2019].

This Erika Lee [Email her| Tweet her], Director of the Immigration History Research Center, Regents Professor, Distinguished McKnight University Professor, and the Rudolph J. Vecoli Chair in Immigration History at the University of Minnesota, turns out to be, according to her Wikipedia entry (11/26/19), the “granddaughter of Chinese immigrants.”

Her pinned tweet:

#Never Again? I’ve definitely heard that before.

To speak plainly: Lee’s use of #NeverAgain in this context is a blood libel against white America. Excluding Chinese from immigrating to the U.S. in the 19th century was not remotely the same thing as Holocausting German Jews.

Additionally, Lee is being utterly hypocritical, given what I found when researching my 1995 (!!!) book Alien Nation: Common Sense About America’s Immigration Disaster:

if you phone the embassy of the People’s Republic of China in Washington, D.C., and ask about immigrating, you get this answer:

CHINESE EMBASSY OFFICIAL [laughs]: “China does not accept any immigrants. We have a large enough population. A foreigner can visit on a tourist visa that can be extended for up to six months. Then you must leave. To apply for a temporary work permit, you must first have an official letter of invitation from a company authorized by the Chinese government” (p. 251).

Nevertheless, I am personally delighted that Erika Lee’s WaPo piece included this:

By the 1990s, xenophobia became a central part of the growing conservative movement. Writers, scholars and politicians like Peter Brimelow, Samuel Huntington and Patrick Buchanan warned that growing numbers of immigrants from Latin America, Africa and Asia were not assimilating and constituted an assault against white America, which they argued, represented the core of American identity

  • (Links added).
  • “Xenophobia” = American nationalism.
  • And, needless to say, I am proud to be in this company.

Of course, none of us “argue” that “white America” is “the core of American identity”—we assert it, because it is a historical fact. Every single one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, and of the delegates to the Constitutional Convention, was white (and, incidentally, overwhelmingly Protestant). As the famous scene from the 2006 movie The Good Shepherd (scripted, of course , by a Jew) puts it:

Joseph Palmi: “You know, we Italians have our families and the church, the Irish have the homeland, the Jews their tradition … What do you guys have?”

Edward Wilson: “The United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting.”

Lee’s Op Ed is stunningly stupid. She asserts: “Trump may be the most xenophobic American leader in United States history.” But (apart from the fact that Trump has not, unfortunately, legislated to cut legal immigration), she does not mention that he has had two foreign-born wives. Perhaps this can be squared with “xenophobia”—but why doesn’t Lee even try? (My guess: because they were both white).

She also blindly repeats the most ignorant immigration enthusiast clichés. Thus she begins her WaPo OP Ed:

The immigrants who are coming are “the most ignorant stupid sort of their own nation.” They herd together and “will soon so outnumber us that … we will not in my opinion be able to preserve our language, and even our government will become precarious. … I wish … the number of purely white people … were increased.”

While these sentiments may echo President Trump’s remarks on immigration, these words do not come from our current commander in chief in 2019 but from Benjamin Franklin in the 1750s. The threatening foreigners Franklin feared so much were Germans coming to Pennsylvania. The numbers of “purely white people” he wanted increased were the English.

(As an immigrant, I must say it does appear to me that Lee should have a little more respect for Franklin, a brilliant man and one of the Founding Fathers of the polity she now presumes to direct. Just sayin.’)

But, beyond this, I refuted this apparently unkillable cliché as long ago as in 1992 in my National Review (!) cover story that ultimately grew into Alien Nation:

…it is conventional to dismiss all concerns about immigration with the argument that such fears have proved groundless in the past. Of course, this is illogical. Just because a danger has been averted in the past does not mean it cannot happen in the future. Many passengers might have climbed aboard the lifeboat safely; one more may still capsize it.

But in fact these concerns, which have been expressed by the most eminent Americans going right back to colonial times, were perfectly reasonable. They were rendered moot only by changing circumstances. Thus Benjamin Franklin worried about German immigration in 1751: “Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them… ?” Franklin was not proved wrong: instead, German immigration was halted—in the short run, by the Seven Years’ War (1756-63); in the longer run, by the post-Revolution Great Lull.

In other words, pauses are essential to assimilation.

But as NumbersUSA’s Roy Beck noted when the MSM responded with SHOCK! HORROR! To Mitt Romney’s single mention of “self-deportation” back in 2012: immigration enthusiasts just flat-out don’t want to know about opposing arguments. They simply want to repress them.

What strikes me as truly extraordinary, for a “Director of the Immigration History Research Center”: Lee makes no attempt to relate surges in American “xenophobia” a,k.a. nationalism to the wild surges in immigration that characterize American history. Yet the connection is obvious, as illustrated by this chart, which scrupulously shows immigration relative to population, from my Alien Nation (significantly, we’ve not been able to find a later version—we’ll have to update it ourselves):

Lee has authored, perhaps because she does not fully understand her own racial alienation, a hymn of hate against white America—i.e. against America.

It is a measure of the straits we are in that she is a tenured professor in a Greater New England state that the Generic American Party must win if America is to remain America.

Peter Brimelow [Email him] is the editor of VDARE.com. His best-selling book, Alien Nation: Common Sense About America’s Immigration Disaster, is now available in Kindle format.

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  1. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:

    Now think how faintly such hymns of hate (granting that they would, and could, be sung, which they wouldn’t because they couldn’t) would resonate through the American air, if Whites weren’t engaged in an enthusiastic competition between their race to who self-hates the most.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  2. It seems pretty simple to me; we’ve reached the point (320 million) where the costs of adding more inhabitants outweighs the benefits. Every additional person we move in necessarily means that much more crowding, that much less freedom, that much less open space per capita. Go ahead; try to camp in Yosemite next Spring. Don’t bother to make a reservation; just put everything in the car and drive up.

    Let me know how it works out.

    It’s all a bit like a motel with a hundred rooms. One party wants to come stay? Great. Fifty? Fine.

    At some point north of a hundred, the minuses start to outweigh the pluses.

    Thanks to the demographic profile of immigrants (generally young, have yet to bear children), we could slam shut the door on all immigration right now; we’d still rise to about 400 million before leveling off.

    So anyone who wants to let in more immigrants — of any kind, from anywhere — necessarily feels comfortable with the thought of an America with more than four hundred million people.

    Ask them how many more? Where would they draw the line? Six hundred million? A billion? Two billion? Where?

    Surely somewhere.

  3. Sol says:

    So what bit of humor will we get from TD in response?

  4. @Tired of Not Winning

    If it were not for that Act, the West Coast would be like it is in The Man In The High Castle – go watch the series if you’ve not, it’s good.

  5. MattinLA says:

    We need an “All-World “Exclusion Act.”

  6. Franz says:

    She also blindly repeats the most ignorant immigration enthusiast clichés.

    Washington Post only prints clichés about everything else too, Peter. It’s why their circulation is down the bung hole.

    PS if you happen to be reading this, still have my first edition copy of Alien Nation. Bought it when it came out.

    Thought it would be old news by now. Silly me.

    • Replies: @Wally
  7. sally says:

    If there were no territorial bounded nation states; hence no borders, immigration would not be an issue.. if everyone had free education ..there would be no racial boundaries, no color boundaries, and no educational boundaries.

    Seems to me the nation state system (all 208 of its member states) creates the borders which constitute the interfaces that separates the races and sorts the colors .. why is not this kind of logic part of the discussion?
    In other words, what race and color boundaries would exist if the entire world were one nation?

    • Replies: @elchucko
    , @Angharad
  8. Alfa158 says:
    @Colin Wright

    I’ve tried asking in conversations with people who hold her beliefs “how many more?”. You will never, ever, get a number,
    You will only get one of three answers:
    1. As many as want to come.
    2. Look over there, is that a UFO?
    3. STFU!

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @DanFromCT
    , @Johann
    , @Richard B
  9. Moses says:

    Ms. Lee makes the clearest argument yet about why the 1924 Immigration Act favoring immigration from European countries was a good idea.

    Allow non-Whites into America, they relentlessly attack the native White American stock to let in more of their cousins, aunts and uncles.

    Exhibit A, Ms. Lee.

  10. @Colin Wright

    Absolutely agree Colin. At some point sheer numbers become the issue — however, discussions of such elementary national utility are still unallowable.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  11. Svevlad says:
    @Colin Wright

    This is correct – geographically, America can support many more people, perhaps almost up to a billion.

    Infrastructurally? Even the current population is too much – cities are way too sprawled and inefficient, water supply is a massive problem in some places etc (like 90% of these are caused by nimbyism and lobbying of various similar larger-scale organizations)

    • Replies: @Cat Hierophant
  12. GMC says:

    This war against the White America society is as real as it gets. Obviously, the 1964 Open Unlimited Immigration/ Refugee Laws, which just about stopped white European immigration into the US, was a very good start for halting any chance of securing an intelligent European society. Of course, the Zionists and NWO Corporations, didn’t want the American society intelligent enough to see through their centuries old quest for power – over the New World – for starters. Imagine – the old immigration laws would have made a 65+% European society with roughly 240 million people. This would have been much much easier, to stop the Zionist/NWO agenda. And they knew it – after all, they did it -Before. Thanks Unz Rev.

  13. I am not sure what “pauses are essential to assimilation” has to do with “self-deportation”

    If you support self-deportation you don’t support assimilation. Yet you put mention those things close together in the text while decrying that the left wants to “repress” opposing arguments.

    At the end, a lot of us know what your and Trump’s con is. It’s not about “illegal” immigration or “pause immigration so that existing immigrants assimilate”. You actually want to halt all immigration legal or not of non-whites and make them leave the country.

  14. Non-white races are like alcohol: a little is fine, but too much is poison and death. A country that is no longer majority white is no longer America, because it’s no longer the extended family of a nation. But the average white person is a coward when confronted with the word ‘racist’. Common defenses include:
    1) embrace civic nationalism;
    2) argue that Democrats are really the real racists;
    3) contrive anecdotes, “my good friend at work is black”;
    4) sidestep direct use of the term and substitute something like “nationalism” instead;
    5) praise a conservative icon such as Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, Candace Owens, etc.

    Civic nationalism is the worst. Magic dirt is a fantasy, and legal immigration is just as bad as the illegal kind. The former is simply a slower death than the latter.

    The only way out of these defensive postures is to own the term ‘racist’, to embrace it, to proclaim it without shame. Many arguments could be made:
    1) non-whites legal and illegal consistently vote < 70% Democrat; in 5 years time nobody on the right will ever be elected again to prominent office;
    2) racism is pattern recognition upon which all science is based;
    3) medical science can easily determine race by DNA, based on correlation of alleles;
    4) etc. etc.

    The trouble with such arguments is that they are logical, not rhetorical. They don't connect on any subliminal or emotional level that could wake white people up and shake them out of their anti-racist stupor.

    Thus the problem lies directly with our own people. We are in a war, but our troops won't fight. As in most wars, the issue comes down to some basic equations: Can we evoke a bigger emotional reaction from our troops to motivate them our way, than the left can to demotivate them their way. From now on, in every communication heard or seen by our side, never fail to browbeat them, remind them of their stupidity and cowardice in their defensive response to the left. Lay down such a huge guilt trip that they have no choice but to accept the right's way of thinking and fighting. Although most of us are not officer material, instead we must become DI's and staff sergeants, and damn good ones at that.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  15. To speak plainly: Lee’s use of #NeverAgain in this context is a blood libel against white America.

    Not really, it is a blood libel against the German peoples.
    Anyway, the use hints who is waging war against Europeans by weaponized migration.

    Excluding Chinese from immigrating to the U.S. in the 19th century was not remotely the same thing as Holocausting German Jews.

    Here, the writer is a bit confused.

    Sure it is not the same, if you try to expel a people from your country, or if you try to prevent a people from entering your country.

    Why expelling amounts to “holocaust” is beyond me, and the author should do more research. He used an undefined fictional event to distance himself from it, and reacted precisely as desired by those who hurl “never again”. It tells them, the author has not yet passed the taboo line, he hasn’t found out the truth yet and takes the Chinese bait.

    • Replies: @Achilles Wannabe
  16. China does not accept any immigrants. We have a large enough population.

    When can I – an American – have the same privilege as the Chinese, and say, no, “America does not accept any immigrants. We have a large enough population?”

    When can I – an American – have the same privilege as Israelis, who openly and proudly declare their country for their people?

  17. Anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Is White America destined for extinction? From such ominous pieces like this one and supremacist posts here it would certainly lend credibility to that paranoia. But where exactly does Jewish America belong? Aren’t they the real owners of the country despite their numerical inferiority? This leads one to conclude that the game has little, if anything, to do with numbers. Besides, they are ethnically White although with loyalty first and foremost to their Zionist kinsmen and country, Israel, our “ally” and the American taxpayer’s biggest welfare recipient. Fear not, the Blacks, the Browns and the Yellows will – for the distant/foreseeable future, remain in the fringes of America’s centers of power. As for the Reds, they are as good as extinct and rarely get mention these days, save for the occasional noises they make when a pipeline is being forced through what remains of their stolen lands.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @GMC
  18. @Tired of Not Winning

    “…Should’ve kept the Chinese Exclusion Act…”

    Make that the Chinese Repatriation Act. With a population of 1,4 BILLION and a booming economy, soon to become the biggest of the world, China could easily absorb the 5 million Chinese from the US. What are we waiting for?

    When it has happened, we will make Erika Lee director of the Remigration History Research Center. Now that is a promise!

  19. Remember this, you all: immigration is like water, a glass will help, a flood will kill you.

  20. Listen Up says:

    Racial exclusion? That’s funny, I don’t see any blacks, anglos or hispanics living, working or attending school in any Chinatown in the US.

    I also don’t see Al Sharpton organizing marches against Chinatowns because of their exclusionary practices. I don’t see any endless complaining about it on the mainstream Jewish media, I never heard about the ACLU demanding black students be allowed into Chinese schools.

    And so it goes with Amish communities, ultra orthodox Jewish communities, etc.

    Except for mainstream whites. If white people want to live with their own kind and share a culture, language, rituals and religion it’s called a heinous hate crime against the rest of humanity.

    If Lee wants diversity, let her start with her own people.

    • Replies: @DanFromCT
    , @Joe Stalin
  21. Paul says:

    “. . . Lee is being utterly hypocritical . . .”

    There is no shortage of hypocrites at universities.

  22. padre says:

    Poor. poor white folks, they are just trying to make friends with everybody,and look how they are treating them!

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  23. Paul says:

    Why worry about Chinese in the U.S. who are pilfering military technology and more?

    • Replies: @denk
  24. @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    Realistically?

    No Chinese would have zero effect on Hollywood. Ashkenazi Jews and Irish-Catholics would still have built Hollywood and the MSM. Asians would have no effect on this.

    A few skirmishes on the railroad lines with Irish immigrants? Ho hum.

    Asian gangs like Triads? Never as influential as the Italians.

    Massage parlors and human trafficking? Okay, most of that is Chinese.

    Industrial espionage? Yeah maybe.

    When Chinese arrived in the US the WASPS, Irish and Jews were already so deeply entrenched in pillars of society-MSM, banking, business-that Chinese could not infiltrate it at all unlike Philippines or Indonesia.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  25. DanFromCT says:
    @Alfa158

    Point 2 is hilarious. Thanks for the good laugh on this Thanksgiving. Most of her kind, however, don’t reach No. 3. Instead, at least from my experience working with NY Jews and some Asians like her, they disappear up their own asses with that signature shit-eating grin on their faces. That should be all the proof in the world we need that the Republicans are “throwing the game,” as someone here here put it, since these genocidal, white-hating racists are less formidable as opponents than Antifa’s lesbians and homos are dressed up in black tights.

  26. Johann says:
    @Alfa158

    The role that American Christianity plays in this war should not be ignored. Indeed, the Catholic bishops have become the storm troopers of the open border movement . Of course the mainstream Protestant preachers are not far behind. So when the normal American goes to church he is inundated with anti white propaganda . The Christians have redesigned traditional Christianity to a pathetic mewling “ please forgive me because I am white and have sinned sob fest. They have also embraced the “good” Moslem meme videlicet Bergoglio the CEO of Vatican inc. They have changed The forgive the sinner to bring the sinner into your house and offer him your wife and daughter and all your earthly possessions. This all American experiment will not end well.

  27. @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    If it were not for that Act, the West Coast would be like it is in The Man In The High Castle – go watch the series if you’ve not, it’s good.

    Skip the fourth and final season as it’s devolved into the usual SJW propaganda and platitudes.

    What’s with the “Detroit” in your pseudonym? Are you a refugee from Detriot as so many of us are or have been? I’m not sure that CA is an improvement except insofar that mesoamericans and Asians are more civilized than our homegrown HBD Mitten negroes.

  28. DanFromCT says:
    @Listen Up

    Right, but these Asians, and the Jews who own the msm and so grant them public existence, are anything but formidable opponents—spiritually, physically, or intellectually. Not any of it could have happened without the Republican establishment and Conservatism Inc “throwing the game” by insinuating that America is a nation of principles that applies to whites only while allowing every other group to emulate Jews’ putting their interests first. In the latter case this includes not least extermination of “whiteness,” making legends of “blood libel” seem like child’s play.

  29. Miro23 says:
    @Anonymous

    But where exactly does Jewish America belong? Aren’t they the real owners of the country despite their numerical inferiority? This leads one to conclude that the game has little, if anything, to do with numbers.

    Good point, that the driving force for all this is the consolidation of minority Jewish power (with the help of Anglo collaborators).

    Without them and their education/media/lobbying, it would be back to Anglo USA. albeit with a larger ethnic component – most of them probably OK with America First.

  30. WJ says:
    @Colin Wright

    Concur. Try driving in Colorado on I 25 from Wyoming all the way to a point not far from the New Mexico border. You really never leave the city, the traffic, the Panera Breads and Lowe’s and Home Depots. The same applies for Texas, along I 35. Not quite as bad because Texas has a crappy climate and boring geography but still incredible sprawled population. How many people in the USA? is my go to response to open borders lunatics

    • Replies: @Harald Balzac
  31. Hacienda says:
    @BannedHipster

    That’s a good question. I don’t pretend to have an answer. The world does whatever it does and I’ve found that my ideas and words do little to change the outcome, especially in political matters.

    But the world sometimes does things that I like. In fact, quite often does things that I like. And I’ve discovered the things that I disliked at one time become things that I like. And it’s hard to tell which dislike will eventually change to a thing that I like.

    For examples, when I was a kid I disliked McDonald’s, but now I like McDonalds. I disliked Christianity, now I dislike it a lot less since getting a more mature understanding of why it exists and some of the positive things about it. But I still think it is a stupid religion for stupid people. But I’ve also changed in what I regard as stupid, but won’t bore you with this. I used to dislike greed pro forma, now I don’t dislike greed as I see that even greedy people use greed as a tool.

    Going the other way around. I used to like the Disney of the 50s-70s, although I always considered it childish compared to say Warner Brothers. But this is a ridiculous comparison. I used to like Sears, but obviously that Sears is dead and will not return. I repeat, it will not return. Not unless WASPs and select Teutons get some spine and band together and cordon off non-interested into refugee areas. Goddamn it!

    I guess what I’m saying is that immigration is a hope, but not a promise. And nothing is guaranteed in this life.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  32. @Colin Wright

    It won’t level off at 400,000,000. Demographic estimates at this scale are nearly always underestimates, usually motivated by optimism bias or deliberate mendacity. Numbers will rise until infrastructure itself fails.

    I gave up trying to explain the overpopulation problem a long time ago, but in the end, I was using a simple pizza metaphor to help people get it:

    You are sharing a pizza with two friends and you each have three equal slices. One friend invites another, your slice gets smaller. And so on.

    Intellectually, of course, they got it, but they would insist either that a) more pizza could be found, i.e. pizza is infinite, or b) that’s the cost of goodness, i.e. destroying my share is morally right.

    Not one person ever paused to think about the implications. Ever. And this was mere pizza, a far cry from my preferred lifeboat capacity and axe question.

    Nothing can be done about this. Man’s heuristic biases aren’t adapted to this scale of activity. Especially with white people and their endless guilt-morality.

  33. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    “Trump may be the most xenophobic American leader in United States history.”

    I’m always amazed at these university professor types who know nothing, but never tire of letting people know how clueless they are.

    My money for the most xenophobic leader would be Truman, who ordered the dropping of those atomic bombs on Japan, even while Japan was trying to surrender. Just had to test those new toys and let Uncle Joe know we’re the Big Dog now.

  34. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Agreed. The issue of whether or not the Chinese have higher IQ is not beside the point. That being, the US is a country founded by Western European people, and that is who it was meant for. The addition of the Chinese provide us with nothing that we cannot provide for ourselves when we are not burdened with subsidizing hordes of primitive masses that this ghoulish bug lady Lee insists we should.

    • Agree: Bookish1
    • Troll: d dan
    • Replies: @follyofwar
  35. anarchyst says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    I’ve been a “racist” for decades, if not longer…

    “Racism” is a made-up word that was introduced by the inventors of communism . . . in order to destabilize non-communist cultures and make them ripe for takeover.

    True “racism” is desirable as it promotes the advancement of the culture and forges a “common bond” between the members of the race. True “racism” , merely denotes commonality of purpose among like-minded individuals with a common culture.

    Every race is expected to promote and advance its own culture; hence, the NAACP and “congressional black caucus” for blacks, the ADL and $PLC for jews and la raza and mecha for hispanics.

    It is the unique and self-desteuctive sense of white altruism that has made so-called “civil-rights (for some)” laws possible. “Affirmative action”, contract set-asides and preferences, other government “programs” for minorities only unrestricted immigration from third-world countries while white native citizens “need not apply”. . .and other unequal treatment has resulted in more-qualified whites being denied opportunities that would rightly be theirs.

    This is white altruism in action. . .

    NO OTHER RACE has EVER given people of other races a “break” . . . It has never happened in the history of humanity, save our own. . . white altruism will spell the demise (and destruction) of the white race. . .

    It is only whites that are expected to shed all vestiges of racial cohesiveness.

    Guess which race maintains the most racial and cultural insularity and cohesiveness yet decries racial cohesiveness by whites??

    I will leave it to the gent(i)le readers to figure it out . . .

  36. On this Thanksgiving Day we can reflect on the consequences “ Native Americans” faced as a result of a weak Border Policy.

    U.S.A European based Conservation legacy, “ North American Wildlife Management Model”,Citizen Conservationist/ Environmentalist are another USA White Threat- a truly reasonable and viable “ Global Swarming” land ethic would deem population stabilization,drastic immigration curtailment in order.
    Open Border advocates can not fathom such insights, nor do many others.

  37. @Svevlad

    Whenever I read someone claiming that the U.S. could accommodate loads more people (“perhaps almost up to a billion”) I know the writer is a fool.

    Such statements are based on simple-minded absurdities. Such as the idea that additional population neatly spreads itself out in currently sparsely occupied areas, rather than gravitating to cities. That “empty” areas are just waiting for new cities and suburbs rather than already in use for food production, resource extraction, and recreation. That mass human imports will be matched by gainful jobs or that we need more recruits for wrapping burgers and working cash registers.

    Above all, population addicts see life only in terms of quantity, not quality.

  38. @Johnny B. Good

    You actually want to halt all immigration legal or not of non-whites and make them leave the country.

    That’s the best idea I’ve heard all day.

  39. Z-man says:

    I’ve noticed lately, the last few years, that there are a lot of lefty anti white Chinks, on the media anyway. Still the vast majority have such an aversion to the black/brown races that the rapper loving, white hatin’ chinks will always be in the minority of their race.
    Gobble gobble! The bird awaits!

  40. @animalogic

    Ultimately, excessive immigration will be self-limiting. The US is on the verge of a civil war now, and the situation will likely get worse after the 2020 election whether or not Trump wins. And it might even boil over next summer. If potential immigrants from anywhere south of the border knew the extent of the homeless problem in American cities, fewer and fewer would come.

    The US Empire, the nation itself, will self-destruct long before it reaches, say, 500 million. There will probably be more emigres, dying to leave a sinking shithole, than clueless immigrants who want to come, only to freeze in tents on cold city pavements, with an insolvent welfare state no longer able to help them.

    All Empires die, and the US Empire will be no different. As WB Yeats said: “Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold.”

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  41. @Franklin Ryckaert

    I have read, but have no proof, that more and more Chinese students who have gone to college in the US decide to return to China to live. Is that not a good thing? Perhaps they are laughing at pathetic Charlie Kirk, who wants to staple a green card to their sheepskins when they graduate.

  42. Meimou says:
    @Johnny B. Good

    At the end, a lot of us know what your and Trump’s con is

    As if that pos is anti immigrant. He did’t put military on the boarder, he says we more legal immigration. He is a civic nationalist

    Please

  43. Obee says:

    The Irish have a homeland? Where would that be, South Boston? The Bronx?

  44. @anarchyst

    We have no idea (((who))) that would be!

  45. @follyofwar

    Question about homelessness in America?

    Why is homelessness more common now than 20 years in 1999 when I left America? Back then, any white who was homeless was a junkie or wino.

    Why is there more homelessness in America than other developed countries like Western Europe or Japan?

    • Replies: @Rich
  46. GMC says:
    @Anonymous

    The zionists from East Europe think that they are the ” chosen ones ” from the bible. As in Netanyahoo – a Polski. They are all wacked and they have a huge nuclear arsenal , not to mention that they have a whole lot of countries – wired with nukes. Just like Hitler thought the aryan {sp.} race was to be the answer , these thieves think of themselves as – half gods – with nukes. The zionists are not alone though. They have quite a pyramid of degenerates , just like them, and a paid off goy army, in the millions. They are destroyers of Earth – and its their main purpose.

  47. ̶i̶m̶m̶i̶g̶r̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶e̶n̶t̶h̶u̶s̶i̶a̶s̶t̶s̶ communists just flat-out don’t want to know about opposing arguments. They simply want to repress them.

  48. anonymous[370] • Disclaimer says:

    Anti-Whites push a Final Solution to the ‘race’ problem, but they mean the ‘White’ problem.

    ‘Diversity is a strength’ really says ‘White people are a weakness’

    And what do they propose we do with these ‘inferior’ White people?

    Make them ‘vibrant’ instead. Force them to ‘assimilate’ endless hordes of non-Whites.

    It is only White populations that are demanded to ‘assimilate’ and celebrate a ‘mixed race future’.

    Diversity is code for White Genocide.

  49. Antares says:
    @BannedHipster

    When can I – an American – have the same privilege as the Chinese, and say, no, “America does not accept any immigrants. We have a large enough population?”

    Good point.

    When can I – an American – have the same privilege as Israelis, who openly and proudly declare their country for their people?

    It is not their country.

  50. Paul says:

    What does Lee think of Chinese abuse of the Tibetan people and the placing of the Uighurs in concentration camps?

    • Replies: @denk
  51. Bookish1 says:
    @anarchyst

    I personally shed my altruism a long time ago and i dont believe that I am the only one. Is there not hope that whites will one day shed their altruism? Or is it going to take intense suffering first?

  52. Amon says:

    It’s so strange, they all hated white America yet refuse to move away to a place where their own kind is the dominant race and culture.

  53. @Tired of Not Winning

    Should’ve kept the Chinese Exclusion Act.

    And added Latin American, muslim and African Exclusion Acts

    • Replies: @Anon
  54. Illegal unlimited immigration is the zionist agenda to destroy America and sadly they are getting their agenda done!

    • Agree: Republic
  55. Bookish1 says:
    @Johnny B. Good

    Asimilation into what? American culture? America is a cultural term designating those of European descent who are the same race as the founders of this civilization. No non white is going to become an American. A citizen yes. But there is a difference between a citizen and an American.

  56. Why is it always privileged East Asians who are doing the formulating of all this micro-agression, anti-white, etc. theory? They’re not black. Blacks don’t even like them. Nor Hispanics.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  57. beau says:

    another ignorant, pathetic, loud mouth harpy with a podium so common today in the institutions of lower learning dotting the landscape. their time will come…

  58. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Also Indian Exclusion Act. We need that in a hurry.

    Indians are the new Jews, totally left wing, clannish, loves law, finance and politics, great at crying victim and organizing themselves. They are also increasingly criminally, not just visa frauds but medical malpractice frauds, tech support frauds, call center frauds, IRS frauds, you name it.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
  59. @Franklin Ryckaert

    With a population of 1,4 BILLION and a booming economy, soon to become the biggest of the world, China could easily absorb the 5 million Chinese from the US. What are we waiting for?

    Based on mercantilist policies, hence El Trumpo’s justifiable fury over the wealth of transfer from the United States to China through the U.S.$350 billion-plus trade surplus.

    One facet of this tight capital controls.

    China cracks down on ‘financial ants’ smuggling cash to Hong Kong
    https://www.ft.com/content/6aa1faca-bd2e-11e6-8b45-b8b81dd5d080

  60. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m Asian and I’m sick and tired of woke Asians like Erika Lee. These woke Asians choose to live in western societies because they know that western societies offer them things they just can’t get in Asian societies, including freedom, law and order, cleanliness, a much more honest society, much less misogyny. Yet they refuse to acknowledge that all these things are unique to western societies because of its western and protestant roots, and bought into the left’s “cultural pride” thing wholesale, insisting that their culture is just as good if not more glorious. If Asian/Latino/African/Muslim cultures are so great, why are they here? GTFB to where their people came from.

    America needs a 40 year immigration moratorium to keep more ingrates like Erika Lee from coming in.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  61. Brimelow’s an Englishman. He sees this problem through those eyes. How does this affect the UK? Well, an America that becomes less white is bad for the UK. Britain has always relied on military back-up from America. Not just relied on it, demanded it, rather arrogantly. A less white America means fewer Americans listening to British rock bands, reading Harry Potter and most fundamentally, speaking English. A less white America means British “soft power” is hugely diminished.

    This is very dangerous for Britain. I agree that immigration should be cut, but I would hesitate to take sides with anyone from Cuck Island. They’re liars and snakes.

    • Replies: @comprimarius
  62. Non-white races are like alcohol: a little is fine, but too much is poison and death.

    Couldn’t agree more. In small numbers you assimilate them, in large numbers they assimilate you.

    Trouble with whites is, there are whites, then there are (((whites))).

    Whites need to root out the fifth columnists among us for America to survive. Trump is ((white)), almost there. His instincts are white, but he’s greatly compromised after years of doing business with the tribe and no longer controls his own fate. He is at (((their))) mercy.

    I’m not a racist, just a race realist.

  63. anonymous[297] • Disclaimer says:

    One major problem is that much of this anti-white slant actually comes from a sizable white lefty population who have been brainwashed into becoming true believers. It’s not a rational system of belief but rather is cult-like in it’s manifestation. It’s the turncoats within that are the real danger. Otherwise creeps like Lee and others would just be irrelevant, howling on street corners. Who gives these people their platform so their messages can be broadcast far and wide?

  64. @BannedHipster

    When we finally elect the right president, like Kris Kobach, give him the right congress to work with, and when we finally root out the fifth columnists among us by taking back all the institutions they control incl. the media, academia, the judiciary, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, the deep state.

    Start by eschewing their greatest weapons of mass destruction: media and academia. Homeschool your kids.

  65. Stan says:

    Jewish owned New York Times invites minorities to write hate articles against White America. What’s new?

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  66. Anonymous[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Ask them how many more? Where would they draw the line? Six hundred million? A billion? Two billion? Where?

    Infinity. Tucker Carlson had a Jewish talk show host named Nathan Berman on last year who favors infinity refugees and mass immigration because according to him America has lots of “wide open space”. In addition to the demographic warfare they know they’re gleefully waging against the native white racial stocks they believe wide open space is a terrible thing to waste, so must be filled with biomass from Latin America, Africa and Asia.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    , @Priss Factor
  67. @obwandiyag

    It’s not asians formulating the anti-white rhetoric; it’s jews.

    jews run academia and jews formulate the anti-white rhetoric, and then jews empower

    blacks and browns and asians and self-hating whites to spread the cultural marxist poison.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  68. @GMC

    Read E.A. Ross’ The Old World in The New, America was pretty much toast the day we let in all the Catholics, Slavs and Jews, who are all of inferior stock. Left to their own devices, the WASPs might have repatriated the slaves and ended all immigration.

  69. Ron Unz says:

    Well, this article seemed to getting lots of traffic this morning, so just out of curiosity I took a look at it and glanced at some of the comments.

    I’d certainly never heard of this Erika Lee woman and don’t know anything about her, but I suspect there may be a misunderstanding of her ideological positions.

    For various historical and cultural reasons, an important aspect of most East Asians is their tendency towards social conformity, which is usually quite a bit stronger than that of most other population groups around the world.

    So if America’s leading cultural, media, and academic elites are intensely and constantly critical of “white identity” and “white racism” that would represent the standard towards which many educated East Asians would tend to conform, both for psychological and careerist reasons. I suspect that if people investigate Lee’s background, they’ll discover she’s quite conformist to her elite peer-group on all sorts of other matters, including those with no sharp ideological edge.

    For example, back a generation or two ago, when ruling social norms in America were quite different, my strong impression is that the overwhelming majority of East Asians back then conformed to those.

    Now a tendency towards strong social-conformism may or may not be a good trait. But it’s a very different thing than being “anti-white”…

  70. @Johnny B. Good

    Well, that’s a nice thanksgiving dream but I doubt if the communists in our government would ever allow pre-1965 immigration to ever find its way back onto the bargaining table.

    You know, before this shit hole you’re creating became so polluted with the third and fourth world that’s it’s barely recognizable.

  71. @WJ

    WJ,
    Late at night I can sometimes hear the rock train just the other side of I35. I’m on high spot way north of Austin, I can almost see the rails from here. I rarely take umbrage, but I’m takin’ umbrage…

    Crappy climate, sure, but no snow…

    Boring geography, yeah, but really great beaches if you know where to go or can borrow your best friends boat…

    Legal weed, well, I’m workin’ on it…soon grasshopper, soon…

    Best Regards,
    Harry

  72. Rich says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Speaking about NY, where I live and work, the homeless are still mostly junkies, some alcoholics and a bunch of just crazies. The reason their numbers appear to have increased is because they have become a kind of cause for leftists who encourage and feed them. The Homeless in NYC are actually super-citizens who enjoy freedoms not afforded to the tax paying public. They can drink, take drugs, use the streets as toilets, and the cops are ordered to look the other way. I saw a cop recently look the other way when a homeless drug dealer dropped his little baggies of white powder, so he could rush over to write a ticket for a truck that was making a quick delivery.

  73. @MikeatMikedotMike

    You forget blacks, who came here in chains against their will. Their ancestors were here much longer than most whites. We don’t owe them reparations (none of us alive today ever owned any), but, thru generations of unpaid stoop labor, they were an essential part of the country’s development.

    Immigration is hurting them more than any other segment of society. Illegal aliens are taking entry level jobs that used to go to their young men. Don’t know if it will happen, but it is speculated by some that more of them are starting to realize this, and are leaving the democrat party plantation.

    African-American, anti-immigration civil rights icon Congresswoman Barbara Jordan was ahead of her time. Ann Coulter said it well in a 4-4-18 essay, “We Used to Care About One Another.”

  74. @follyofwar

    “You forget blacks, who came here in chains against their will. ”

    Oh please. Sell your white guilt elsewhere. Nothing to do with the topic or the point I was making.

    “they were an essential part of the country’s development. ”

    Wrong. The cotton would have got picked either way. YOU forget:

    https://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1157.html

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  75. @Ron Unz

    I was about to say, albeit much less eloquently.

    I worked for 5 years in one of the biggest English schools on the east coast, The English Language Institute at The University of Delaware. Over 50% of the students were east Asian. I made friends with many and was acquainted with even more. Through Facebook, WeChat, and personal contact, it was amazing to see the change that would occur after we packed them off to freshmen year in the dorms. I don’t mean they became drunken one-night-stand queens so typical at today’s universities (they probably did that amongst themselves), but how suddenly all of the “woke” proclamations that are all but required to be shared/liked on social media today started popping up. Things like Sex Positive 3 Wave Feminist Bisexual. It was crazy as I had met them days after they arrived.

    Isn’t “The nail that sticks out gets beat down with the hammer” an Asian saying? I also think that this is just Asian behavior. This is what the system or authorities teach, so it must be true. That being said, I still don’t like it.

  76. I checked her Twitter out. She must report many tweets because there are many that say “This Tweet is Unavailable” on one of her boards. How is her lectures against whites any less racist than what she accuses whites of?

    Can you imagine being admitted into China and then trying this same kind of sh*t on the Chinese!! They’d either put you in prison or throw you out.

    But once the USA is majority colored people, I can’t imagine they will allow whites to openly object to racism directed at them anymore than they allow it now.

  77. @Anonymous

    “…Jewish talk show host named Nathan Berman on last year who favors infinity refugees and mass immigration because according to him America has lots of “wide open space”.”

    If he thinks those spaces are “wide open” then I suggest he go and park his camper there to enjoy a little quiet retreat. He will find out in a hurry that while America may be “the land of the free”, there is nothing free in America. Everything is owned, including all that seemingly empty land.

  78. @BannedHipster

    It’s funny you should mention the Israelis.
    I think you’ll find that privilege available to you once the diaspora Israelis in this country are politically defanged, at the least.

  79. Muggles says:

    As someone here noticed, the actual nation of (Communist) China doesn’t permit immigrants. So Ms. Lee surely has her work cut out for her when she goes on the lecture tour of her ancestral homeland. I’m sure she’ll “pack them in” as they say in showbiz.

    Her obnoxious views remind me of what the actual Chinese say about our SJW contingents. In an Asian Times article a year or so back there was good discussion of what mainland Chinese actually think about the SJW beltway/NYC leftist mob. In Chinese they use a term (which I don’t recall) meaning “white left.”

    That pretty much nails it in one respect. Of course Ms. Lee is an outlier. A “banana?” Yellow on the outside, white on the inside? Aside from a handful of politically opportunistic Hispanic politicians you don’t see or hear about non white political commentators demanding more immigration (legal or not) into the US. The polling shows what American non whites think: no more illegals.

    The current and temporary mania for “open borders” comes from the gaggle of Identity Marxists and their dimwitted spawn. But their fundamental contradiction remains: you can’t demand free entry for everyone to a nation that you portray as inherently evil. Rational people don’t demand more people be admitted to Hell. Or insist on it.

  80. The good thing is that white people are gradually being replaced in the US. In the future, probably not in our lifetime, the face of US people will be of a mixed race.

    • Replies: @German American
  81. Anonymous[515] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    But in real terms what’s the difference?

    Regardless of the individual or group attitude underpinning the sentiment, it’s resulting in real-world behaviour & consequences.

    Does the same apply to the Indian elites in the United States?

    VDare covered their community, and they are likely to become the new governing class in the democrats, and we are already seeming them in the Republicans via people like Nikki Haley. It’s a softer anti-white politics then Jewish genocidal hatred but it’s apparent.

    Are you saying that once Chinese have supplanted the Jewish Diaspora they will suddenly be more magnanimous towards the ruined white remnants? That seems very unlikely given the tenets of Han Minzu Zhuyi, and wrongful attribution of the century of dishonour on whites, not Jews.

    Or that if whites can regain power miraculously Chinese will suddenly stop acting antagonistically and self-interestedly in accordance with Lee Kwan Yu style identity politics? You will see white children like the children in Africa, reciting passages about the friendly 3 dragons in China.

    Her attitudes have consequences. It further demoralises whites, further reduces their efficacy and wellbeing, and demographic vitality, and if she is a mere conformist it retains the status quo she’s conforming to until it culminates in total white dispossession.

    You’re being too nice Ron. Too much time with conservatives!

    • Agree: Richard B
  82. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    This woman has a cushy job in an easy field that’s only requirement is to turn out papers critical of white society. She probably isn’t good at anything but regurgitating left-wing propaganda and because of this she passed a few tests and probably did a thesis on the exploitation of this group or that group by the evil white man. Why is it that when Orientals take courses in anything other than STEM fields they become the most fanatically anti-white haters? At work, she hates white society but goes home every night to her white husband and half-white kids.

    https://www.whatitmeanstobeamerican.org/conversations/a-historian-who-wishes-she-could-control-time/

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  83. @follyofwar

    The North did not develop because of blacks. The vast industrial base and financial sectors and massive economy was a result of immigration after the Civil War of Irish, Italians, Germans, Polish and yes, Jews.

    With or without blacks the North would have developed through European immigration.

    For example, when my grandparents grew up in Detroit it was German and Polish with a some Jews and a few Italians and Irish. There were few blacks until the Depression in the thirties. Only in the fifties did black crime began to rise, according to my grandmother.

    Even when I was a kid in the eighties, Detroit was not the no-go zone it is today. For example, my grandmother owned a condo on the Detroit-Warren border that was worth $400,000 in 1986. Twenty years later in 2006 when the family sold it the condo was only worth $70,000 and my brother said we were lucky to get that (I believe some Asians purchased it).

  84. She’s just one more ignorant of the people educators who want to turn America brown, and think they will have a place in the new society. She ignores history. She will be raped and hanged along with the rest of us. I can’t tell if she’s Chinese or Korean, but neither country are taking black, browns or whites. People like her silently provoke race war, and people like her cause me to treasure the 2nd amendment.

  85. @Ron Unz

    What’s better than a shabbos chingchong?

    Ending all immigration for 20 years.

    • LOL: Tusk
    • Replies: @anon
  86. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @the grand wazoo

    Asians would be more willing to ally with whites if we didn’t see normie liberal whites mocking Asians while constantly sucking up to niggers and kikes…

  87. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    To be honest Asians are probably the only group whites have at least some common interests with. But I notice most mainstream whites love niggers and kikes.

  88. @anarchyst

    The moral “high ground” is held by those professing the Platinum Rule: Do unto others as they would have you do.

    No reciprocity can be expected, much less required, of others able to have their way in all things.

    The Platinum Rule is disseminated by both the secular Left and religious Right.

    The religious Right combines this with “rendering unto Caesar his due.”

    “Do unto others as they would have you do.”
    “Render unto Caesar his due.”

    This is the thinking of an obedient slave.

    Now combine this with the fact that whites have been selected, through evolution, for egalitarian individualism.

    Problem is, there is no such thing as equality or pure individualism. The sensible white individualist, realizing that there is no equality anywhere and he can never truly be “left alone,” would rather rule in some capacity than to serve in all.

    “Better to rule in hell than serve in Heaven,” or something to that effect.

    So, the white “individualist” decides he would rather administrate/supervise the minions.

    “The minions,” of course, include his closest competitors – fellow whites.

    So he helps sell fellow whites on pure individualism, as if such a thing is obtainable, along with equal portions of the Platinum Rule and “rendering unto Caesar.”

    This is your intelligent white liberal or libertarian. Dumb libshits, duped believers in hyper-individualism or the Platinum Rule, are merely useful idiots.

  89. @Colin Wright

    It’s about dispossessing historic white America – not mathematics.

    Pathos beats Logos every time.

  90. @the grand wazoo

    That’s the crux of it for many of these people.

    They don’t feel like they belong in America, and they don’t – America was founded by white, Protestant Europeans for white, Protestant Europeans. Of course other European groups proved to assimilate to varying degrees.

    They also don’t feel like the belong in China, or India, or wherever – because they don’t. They are a horrific brew.

    They feel angry about this, and they think that the only solution is to bring more of their people over. She thinks that if more Chinapeople come to the USA, she will feel more at home.

    The opposite is what happens, of course. But this is their line of thinking.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  91. @anon

    But I notice most mainstream whites love

    True. But is that what you see, or is that what you (((see))) through the media?

    On the other hand, I see Asian kids in Toronto now acting like hood thugs, and dressing like Drake. They (((see))) that they should assimilate into Arab and black culture, and, being highly conformist, do so.

    But, as far as FOB Asians go, they do despise blacks and seem relieved when they find out I’m not a self hating white, so maybe you’re onto something.

    • Replies: @anon
  92. @Ron Unz

    She’s anti-white.

    Like Sarah Jeong and many others.

    Yes, asians are conformist, and in academia they conform to the anti-white marxist narrative, and that is how one gets tenure.

  93. @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    I tried watching TMitHC and quit after they gassed the sweet-perfect-innocent Jewess and her kids in the first dang episode. Muh Holohoax……groan…

  94. MBlanc46 says:
    @Johnny B. Good

    Yes. Absolutely. Most of us make no secret of it.

  95. Richard B says:
    @Anon

    This insanity is not going to stop itself.

    The historic American nation is now an Occupied Territory.

    And the only way to liberate an occupied territory is with aggression.

    But Whites are as allergic to organizing as the Elite are to accountability.

    So, barring a miracle, and it’d take one, the insanity isn’t going to stop.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  96. MBlanc46 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Anti-white is as anti-white does.

  97. Bookish1 says:
    @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    Like I said before being an American is a cultural thing. It means being a white of European descent like the founding fathers of this country were. No none white can be an American but we let them be citizens with the right to vote. American vs citizen—two different things

  98. Bookish1 says:

    The time is coming soon when whites are going to have to get tough with no holds barred.

  99. @Colin Wright

    China for the Chinese; Japan for the Japanese and America is for everyone. Or for anyone the Jews decide belongs here. This is nothing more than a game run by the Jews to destroy America. Meanwhile, the Jews continue to remove blacks from Israel, kill Palestinians and try to manipulate the Mid East debate.

    Our Founding Fathers including Washington, Franklin, Jefferson and others knew of the problems Jews posed to our new country. A brief example of the Sephardic Jews in Early America:

    “The first Jews in America were not in pursuit of religious freedom, or religion at all. These were Sephardic Jews from the Caribbean and South America, whose ancestors had fled from the Inquisition on the ships of the Conquistadors. Other Sephardic Jews, whose ancestors had left Spain and Portugal for Holland, had come to New Amsterdam with the Dutch. These Jews, who maintained commercial connections with their kindred in Europe and Africa and established themselves in the Caribbean and South America, were already heavily involved in the slave trade and trafficking of merchandise in the New World long before the English established a formidable presence here. These circumstances gave Jews a huge advantage in the newly-forming English colonies, where most Christians still rejected usury, worked with their hands and traded with barter. Examples of Jews engaged in these things are numerous, and here we shall mention some of those which are notable.

    Aaron Lopez, a Sephardic Jew merchant who established himself in Newport, Rhode Island, owned over two dozen ships, many which carried Biblical names, and recorded at least a dozen voyages to Africa made in order to acquire negro slaves. Lopez had commercial interests in the West Indies, British Isles, and throughout the American colonies. He had his own wharf, and in addition to the slave trade, he was was involved in the trade or manufacture of ships, barrels, candles, rum, chocolate, pork, molasses, bottled beer, textiles, clothes, shoes, hats, and bottles. By 1749, Lopez was generally considered to be one of the largest merchants in the country. Lopez conducted his affairs like many of the early Jewish merchants in America, whose households and businesses were entirely dependent upon negro slave labor, and whose ready willingness to use and trade slaves gave them a large business advantage over their White counterparts. Lopez did suffer some losses during the war at the hands of the British, however after his death in 1782 his son-in-law Abraham Pereira Mendes carried on his business quite successfully. Lopez was not the only prominent Jewish slave trader and merchant in New England. Another example from Newport is Isaac Elizer (1720-1807), who being partnered with another Jew, Samuel Moses, was a merchant-shipper who dealt in slaves, liquor, and whatever else he could trade between Africa and ports in the Caribbean.”

    Nothing has changed today. As Franklin stated about the Jews, “Leopards don’t change their spots.” Jews are never loyal to the nation or country they emigrate to and destroy it over time..and they are destroying ours.

    • Replies: @Biff
  100. @follyofwar

    Uh huh. What we would do without blacks? Such an essential people. Then, and now. Poor things, ripped from the beautiful lives they were living in Africa.

  101. Richard B says:
    @Alfa158

    You will never, ever, get a number,

    Actually, about a year or two ago, Tucker Carlson had a man and a woman on, both in their 30’s.

    Tried to look but couldn’t find the video. So, I’m going by memory here.

    They both identified as libertarians.

    When Tucker asked How much is enough, half a billion? a billion?

    They both responded simultaneously, affirmatively and enthusiastically.

    If pressed the pro-immigration crowd would probably be ok with one billion.

    Whether or not that’s true, it looks that’s what we’re going to get.

  102. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    Wait a minute Asian kids want to assimilate into Arab culture??? I understand the ghetto hip hop bullshit but Arab culture?

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
  103. Wally says:
    @Franz

    author Brimelow said:

    “To speak plainly: Lee’s use of #NeverAgain in this context is a blood libel against white America. Excluding Chinese from immigrating to the U.S. in the 19th century was not remotely the same thing as Holocausting German Jews.”

    – Of course there was nothing remotely like the “holocaust” because the absurd “holocaust” narrative is Zionist BS propaganda.

    – As planned, the fake & impossible “holocaust” propaganda is at work destroying Euro-white majority countries.

    • Replies: @Franz
  104. Paw says:
    @Tired of Not Winning

    She might be sorry , because she missed migration of some Islamist ,
    on 9/11. But she could move to EU …Migration ISIL and Daesh to Syria might improve her mood..
    Why not friendly visit to the Chaliphat in Mosul ?
    Why instead of talks from her office,she had better to do something , for her own Satisfaction…
    And leave those all bad unpleasant people far behind. HER.
    Why not leave anti-imigrant America …Why not settle in Izrael ?

  105. Agent76 says:

    This dovetails well with this article.

    28 Nov 2019 THAT’S YOUR TOT Not enough babies are being born to replace the US population as birth rate plunges to 30-year low

    There were 3,791,712 registered births in the US, a figure lower than the amount of babies needed to replenish the population.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10439803/babies-born-30-year-low-america-fertility/

    • Replies: @Cat Hierophant
  106. SafeNow says:

    It is Thanksgiving weekend, and so many people are flying. When Lee and every other progressive enter the plane and look to their left, I believe they would feel a worm of worry if they saw anyone other than a white pilot and copilot sitting there. I wonder whether they think about this. Who is their electrician or plumber? Does it bother them that immigrants do not accept smiles? How can you be Lee and be consistent and honest with yourself? I don’t get it. For the record, my Chinese doc is great, thanks doc.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  107. Biff says:
    @niteranger

    America is for everyone.

    America is for its owners. They paid for the place and they own it – the rest of you are just visiting.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  108. @Anonymous

    Infinity. Tucker Carlson had a Jewish talk show host named Nathan Berman on last year who favors infinity refugees and mass immigration because according to him America has lots of “wide open space”.

    Sounds like political agoraphobia.

  109. @Biff

    If that is the case why are the old colonial stock Anglo-American regions of America so poor compared to places like the East Coast or Chicago populated by second generation Irish or Italians or Germans (Like Donald Trump) or Jews, of course.

    Catholic churches and Jewish temples in America are expensive and even awe-inspiring. But Evangelical Protestant churches are wooden and poor-looking.

    While Scandinavian-Americans are not exactly wealthy, Minnesota does not have the poverty of the states where white people’s ancestry is colonial English.

    Tell me, why why have the guests bought the house?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  110. @anon

    In Canada, the Arab kids also assimilate into the ghetto hip hop culture. It’s essentially one toxic sludge of retards running around. They act worse than American blacks in day-to-day life, but with less criminality (for now).

    But basically, there’s Blacks + Arabs who are the bottom feeders. Then you have Pakis and assorted Muslims. They are more reserved and not as bad as Arabs, though they can be rapey. Then you have Indians, who used to be a “model minority” but now are being drawn towards the black + Arab side of things.

    • Replies: @German American
    , @Malla
  111. Chinaman says:
    @Tired of Not Winning

    Should’ve kept the Chinese Exclusion Act.

    The Chinese were excluded because whites can’t compete. They were lazy and stupid relative to the Chinese. It is still the same. Watch American Factory produced by Obama. Fundamentally, it is the same reason we have the trade war now and repeal of the H1B visa. White Americans simply cannot compete on a fair basis.

    This quaint racist act should have been called the 3 digit IQ exclusion act.

    Anyone with a 3 digit IQ should not be allowed to set foot in America to keep America stupid so white can feel better about themselves and to keep the competition manageable.

    I actually agree it is a good thing we keep the races apart. History tells us it always end up with genocide or displacement of the minority sooner or later. But the genie is out of the bottle and it is too late for America. It is too late to reverse the demographics trend.

    I wonder how old is Peter and whether he will live long enough to see his beloved America implode.

    It will be the last of white America when his generation dies off.

    • LOL: eah
    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Sick of Orcs
    , @eah
  112. Ron Unz says:
    @anonymous

    https://www.whatitmeanstobeamerican.org/conversations/a-historian-who-wishes-she-could-control-time/

    Actually, Prof. Lee sounds like a perfectly nice woman, and hardly any sort of fanatic ethnic-activist-type…

    Her husband is Italian-American, her favorite author is Jane Austen, and she’s just on the verge of letting her two young children discover that Santa Claus doesn’t really exist. She’s published four books on Asian-American history, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re perfectly respectable academic works.

    I’d guess she’d make a fine neighbor, she tries to never miss her endless faculty committee meetings, and she pays her taxes on time. It’s clear she hates Donald Trump, but I’d suspect that 98% of the other professors at her university do as well, or at least they pretend that. If she didn’t dislike Trump, all her friends would probably think she’d lost her mind.

    Brimelow notes that she accused Trump of being “anti-immigrant” and points out that’s a ridiculous charge since two of Trump’s wives have been immigrants.

    But Brimelow then accuses her of being “anti-white” and that’s just as ridiculous given that her husband is white.

    In these bitter political conflicts, both sides tend to fire off all sorts of wild and irresponsible charges.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Anonymous
    , @Herbert West
  113. Chinaman says:
    @SafeNow

    Duh, if you would trust a Chinese doc with your life, I bet you would also trust him to fly a plane or to fix your toilet with the requisite training?

    I think both Lee and myself would probably feel more comfortable with a Chinese pilot, rather than a obese and inebriated white dude…which is often the case.

  114. “But the truth is that xenophobia has always been a central part of American life.”

    xenophobic: extreme dislike or fear of foreigners, their customs, their religions, etc.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/xenophobia

    I think the optimum word here is extreme. I am not sure how to quantify my concerns about more immigrants — I favor a moratorium and consider what is going on regarding mexicans and others from the south is a form of low level warfare.

    I don’t think that is extreme in the light of their belief that the US stole this territory (southwestern US) from them and they intend to take it back. They are in the US illegally and expect that the US educate them, their children, provide welfare, healthcare, legal services, all in multilingual breo. They don’t speak the primary language and don’t care to. They undermine the livlihood of millions of US citizens —— and they don’t mind our incarceration system.

    I am xenophobic about my country the way I am xenophobic about the home I live in. If you are not invited in , you are unwelcome – period, how much I don’t trust you, fear you etc. is really immaterial, you are not invited and your presence is unwelcome.

    As for exclusions, the fact is the US didn’t need to import a single soul from England, France, Belgium, Italy, Germany, Russia, Denmark, Scotland, or Ireland until every US citizen had their fill and they say, regardless of skin color. There is no white ethnicity. And its clear that all white counties had boundaries and quotas and those whites uninvited were unwelcome among them – regardless of white skin. White Europeans have been slaughtering each other for more than 2000 years. They lie, chat steal, beg, borrow, and unique as whites —-

    I am certainly willing to honor the sacrifices made by chinese visitors to the countries shores ago. But by order if magnitude on the grievance chart, there are literally more with heavier and longer legs.

  115. @Germanicus

    Right. Brimelo accepts the Holocaust and the World War 2 mythology that put Jewish Power in place to then destroy the immigration controls that Brimelow espouses. I think it is because he is Anglo. Anglo’s combined with Jews to destroy Germany but never expected Jews to then destroy the Anglosphere. Now Anglo’s are still too Semophiled to break out of the trap

  116. @Agent76

    Not enough babies are being born to replace the US population as birth rate plunges to 30-year low

    Good news for those of us who care about quality of life and don’t fancy living amid wall-to-wall people.

    It would be better news still if whites were breeding at replacement levels and certain others less.

  117. Wally says:
    @Chinaman

    – Yep, America is so “racist” that yellows, blacks, & browns by the gazillions are trying to get in.

    – It’s not just America, but every place where whites are a majority. Just look at high IQ, strong work ethic Germany, same situation.

    – And you gotta laugh when those people flee their countries and then want to re-create the sh-tholes they fled.

    – You also gotta laugh at anyone who says that the extreme tariffs put up against US goods by China for example, is somehow proof that the US can’t compete. Quite the opposite.
    If not being able to compete was the issue than the massive tariffs against our products wouldn’t be necessary.

  118. renfro says:

    The Democrats have turned immigrants into Idols.
    And ‘old America’ into racist, who are dumb and evil.

  119. Franz says:
    @Wally

    As planned, the fake & impossible “holocaust” propaganda is at work destroying Euro-white majority countries.

    Whats odder is plenty of people know this. And do nothing.

    George Soros is a billionaire but there must be a few mere millionaires on our side. Are they afraid or are they accomplices? No way to determine. A truly perplexing situation.

    • Replies: @Wally
  120. @osap bender

    And what does that achieve or remedy?

  121. @anon

    Asians = Jews with chopsticks
    Indians = Jews with curry
    Blacks = Jews with retardation
    Hispanics = Jew don’t know if I have a knife, main.

  122. @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    Funny how the worst of the worst always gravitate to that “culture” which originated on the streets of LA and NYC. It doesn’t matter to which country you travel to these days, you can always pick them out by their international dress code.

    Man, am I thankful I never got into rap/hip-hop, although it was everywhere in my schools.

  123. eah says:

    As I’ve said before: when educated, successful members of the ‘model minority’ go with the ‘hate Whitey’ rhetoric, you know the problem has taken on a new dimension.

    VDARE.com assiduously avoids characterizing itself as a White Nationalist website — its thing seems to be that too much immigration too fast, without pauses for ‘assimilation’, is a bad thing — which is fairly milquetoast and difficult to argue rationally against — but this woman is a “granddaughter of Chinese immigrants”, so one can reasonably ask: how long are we supposed to wait for ‘assimilation’? — and what are the risks to Whites of a future ‘majority minority’ America, with hostile elites like this woman pandering to a NAM rabble?

    The truth is, everyone knows these hyphenated Americans aren’t really American — and the most important reason to oppose mass immigration of non-whites is to preserve America as a majority white nation, which is its character and demographic heritage, as well as the best, and really only, way to guarantee it remains a safe homeland for Whites (“We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children”) — this is fundamentally what WN is about, and it’s way past time for ‘immigration patriots’ to openly acknowledge and embrace this purpose — I hope people like Erika Lee will make it easier for those who have so far been reluctant to do that.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  124. Say Chinaman, I noticed after the Great Leap Forward, 56 million Chinese seemed to have vanished. Did they all call in sick?

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  125. @Bragadocious

    Actually there are millions of Brits who are race realists and are starting to fight for our culture and communities.

    Many of us follow events in the States and feel great solidarity with our cousins in their struggles for their nation.

    We are also aware that there are fools in every community who would rather add to the divide and conquer effort than build mutual relationships to achieve our goals.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
  126. Liu Bei says:

    Since January 1st 2019, China has begun allowing foreigners married to a native and living in the country for over five years to apply for a ”Chinese Green Card”.

    Drops in the ocean, but an interesting change none the less.

    • Replies: @anon
  127. @Chinaman

    It will be the last of white America when his generation dies off.

    White America is real America. When Taco Bellians breed themselves into power mid-century, they won’t have the requisite wisdom to understand the Constitution nor the competence to run things.

    Same with your beloved Uncle Chang. Excluding chopsticks and squiggle-writing, everything China has today it stole from others. When there’s no one smarter to rip-off the Dragon will faceplant.

  128. @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    As a long time PKD fan (and yes, I know, he did not write much beyond what’s in Season 1), it is one of the few shows I have watched in the last decade. I was thinking they would go full SJW this season-as it was long overdue and in fact they have, with the BCR, but yet–it seems like the writers are trolling the Left. The Nazi stuff in the East Coast and the (surprise), accurately portrayed racism of the Japanese (read: Asians do it too!) on the West Coast has probably red pilled more viewers than a million RamzPaul-Blond in the Belly of the Beast-Red Elephants you tube videos.

    A kind of accidental, media-designed Streisand effect that makes more people question which narrative or possible narratives is actually better.

  129. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Liu Bei

    Which shows that China is just as degenerate and fucked as the “West.” Any country who doesn’t care about preserving the racial and cultural heritage of its people is doomed.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  130. KenH says:
    @Ron Unz

    For example, back a generation or two ago, when ruling social norms in America were quite different, my strong impression is that the overwhelming majority of East Asians back then conformed to those.

    I think Asians generally voted with “the silent white majority” at around 66% Republican until Obama then they voted ~70% Democrat which continues to this day. I think they used to vote Republican in higher percentages than even whites did.

    Now they rightfully sense that white dominance and political power are on the wane in a nation they founded and want to get in on the ground floor with the rabidly anti-white Jewish political construct. They’re reassimilating to the (((woke left))) and prove that in most cases assimilation was superficial and shallow anyway.

    Whatever the case it’s another reason to halt all immigration from non-white countries and seek the repatriation of many of those here.

    • Replies: @anon
  131. KenH says:

    They sure don’t make em all like Michelle Malkin. Ericka Lee is more the rule these days than the exception.

  132. eah says:
    @Ron Unz

    Actually, Prof. Lee sounds like a perfectly nice woman, and hardly any sort of fanatic ethnic-activist-type…

    I see — yes, I guess she is, as long as you don’t mind that she seems to be, by all appearances, intent on destroying a majority white America, and demonizing any Whites who object — she wants to demographically destroy, you know, America, the country her grandparents emigrated to; I mean as opposed to all of the other countries they probably could have chosen, countries full of the people she now seems to want to see in America — in the end that does seem “perfectly” reasonable.

    Maybe you are right and she is, and people like her are, really “perfectly nice” — personally, I prefer not to take the chance: I see no reason to surrender my country.

    • Replies: @eah
  133. eah says:
    @Chinaman

    The Chinese were excluded because whites can’t compete.

    In case you haven’t noticed: while Asians nominally score higher on achievement tests etc, the difference is of no practical significance: there is no meaningful difference in the technical quality of civilizations created by Whites vs those created by Asians — in fact, looking at immigration flows, Asians seems to vote with their feet in massive numbers in favor of the superiority of nations created by Whites.

  134. We need a post 1965 immigrant expulsion act for legal, illegals, and all of their relatives and descendants. That would be the only fair, decent and pro-American thing to do.

  135. Wally says:
    @Franz

    That’s the result of Zionist control & propaganda pumped out 24/7/365.

    In this day & age of fake reality & fantasies, lies are truth, truths are lies.

    Nothing changes until the “holocaust” fraud is rejected utterly, nothing.

    recommended:
    Is the “Holocaust” story primarily why white leftists view their own race negatively?: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12888

    • Replies: @treasure chest
  136. eah says:
    @eah

    I think if you go to China you’ll find the Chinese are very strong believers in ‘Chinese supremacy’; see eg commenter Chinaman above — but you can forget about that whitey — you have no right to object to, or defend your own country from, an immigrant invasion that will ultimately disenfranchise you — in fact, you can’t even assert the interests of your own ethnic group within your own country as it’s taken away from you, by openly hostile immigrants, without having these same immigrants denigrate you and your ‘whiteness’ — while at the same time telling you all about your ‘white privilege’.

    Demanding the abject surrender, and only and nothing but the abject surrender, of white men to all of this does not really seem like a good strategy.

  137. In fact, we need to terminate the Cuban revolving door policy of you come, arrive, you are a citizen.

    Absolute nonsense.

  138. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    From my POV Jews are just as equally anti-Asian. Don’t forget Asians are penalized by affirmative action. We receive no benefits from the multicult bullshit. Not to mention being the only non-white people to be constantly mocked and insulted in Hollywood movies and media in general. The way I see it the kikes only like niggers because they serve no useful purpose other than as a bioweapon against more intelligent evolved races. As if American blacks were not enough, now you have Africans straight from the zoo immigrating here.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @KenH
  139. @MikeatMikedotMike

    No White Guilt here! You chose to selectively address my first paragraph, then ignored the next two.

    Blacks didn’t bring themselves across the Atlantic from Africa. They were brought here by white men (which includes Jews) in search of profit. Certainly, the cotton would have been picked either way, but obviously short-sighted white men thought that using black slaves was cheaper.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  140. Liu Bei says:

    Zhou dynasty – Turks
    Yuan dynasty – Mongols
    Qing dynasty – Manchus
    Soy dynasty – ESL teachers ?

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  141. Richard B says:
    @Ron Unz

    Now a tendency towards strong social-conformism may or may not be a good trait. But it’s a very different thing than being “anti-white”…

    Is it that there’s no difference, or that you’re indifferent?

    When an intelligent person can not or will not see what’s right in front of them (a not uncommon occurance) then a ruling orientation is blocking their view.

    It’s understanable that one would question what that ruling orientation might be.

    In any event, it’s obvious that there’s more than a tendency today “towards strong social-conformism” regarding anti-White hatred. So strong that it includes not a few Whites.

    Given that undeniable fact, when it comes to both there IS no difference.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  142. KenH says:
    @follyofwar

    but, thru generations of unpaid stoop labor, they were an essential part of the country’s development

    You need to put unpaid within quotations. The plantation owners were responsible for feeding, clothing, housing and providing health care to their slaves. Healthy slaves meant that more work got done. They also taught them trades which is how some freed slaves became skilled tradesmen after the civil war.

    African slaves saw a population explosion which would have been impossible if they were all kept in ill health by their “brutal” slavemasters.

    You’re also forgetting about how slavery economically impacted free white laborers in the South. It was impossible for them to compete with slave labor just as the American working class have learned that they can’t compete with Mexican and coolie labor who work for a fraction of what they do.

  143. Geowizz says:

    Haters gotta hate and she’s real ugly. How’s her Hymn of Hate not “hate speech” by the way?

  144. Miro23 says:
    @Richard B

    Now a tendency towards strong social-conformism may or may not be a good trait. But it’s a very different thing than being “anti-white”…

    I suppose that strong social conformism is a survival mechanism, and can be evaluated in how well it contributes to survival. Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be any moral content. Hitler’s National Socialism required public conformism for survival as did Soviet Bolshevism.

    There is a claimed moral basis for “anti-whiteness” but it just looks like a traditional (in this case anti-Anglo) power game.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  145. “It’s understanable that one would question what that ruling orientation might be.
    In any event, it’s obvious that there’s more than a tendency today “towards strong social-conformism” regarding anti-White hatred. So strong that it includes not a few Whites.”

    First of all there’s a lot of rhetorical posing about blacks or others hating whites. I’ve worked in inner city environments. and while there are issues black and white history, most of the black I have met did not advocate actions or sentiments designed to disempower whites from their rights as citizens.

    Sentiments over perceived or actual disparities real or imagined, sure, but actual advocacy to get rid of white people, or hatred to the point of action, I will need more than anecdotal tales that said positioning is factual among most or a large number of blacks.

  146. Send her back.
    The only moral failure of the Chinese exclusion act was in not continuing to exclude them. They should never have been allowed to come here.
    They must all leave.
    They do not belong here and never will.
    They serve the Jew who also does not belong here and never will.

  147. eah says:

  148. KenH says:
    @anon

    Not to mention being the only non-white people to be constantly mocked and insulted in Hollywood movies and media in general.

    True, but still a distant second to the hammering that whites regularly take from Jewish Hollywood.

    If Asians were depicted in a more positive light would you have a problem with whites being bashed and impugned or is that ok just as long as Asians aren’t on the receiving end of things?

    The Jews worked so hard for racial integration because they want to cross breed the most evolved race (whites) and historical archnemesis of the Jews with the least evolved race (black Africans) and create a race of pitiable mulattoes that are easily enslaved.

    • Replies: @anon
  149. babu says:

    When you mix different races of people together from different backgrounds, all you get is conflict. If it were really beneficial, Israel would have already implemented a similar policy.

  150. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    Well I could argue that many mainstream normie whites are contemptuous and hostile to Asians while being submissive to jews and blacks, so the issue cuts both ways. Personally, I feel that if intelligent productive races are feuding, it allows parasites and subhuman savages to win everything.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @KenH
  151. Miro23 says:
    @anon

    Since January 1st 2019, China has begun allowing foreigners married to a native and living in the country for over five years to apply for a ”Chinese Green Card”.

    Drops in the ocean, but an interesting change none the less.

    Which shows that China is just as degenerate and fucked as the “West.” Any country who doesn’t care about preserving the racial and cultural heritage of its people is doomed.

    Not at all. This isn’t mass immigration – it’s careful acceptance of people who have shown a commitment to China in a most fundamental way.

  152. @comprimarius

    Actually there are millions of Brits who are race realists and are starting to fight for our culture and communities.

    Encouraging if true. Do you have any sources or examples?

  153. Anonymous[180] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Hillary Clinton had a white husband, and a white child (maybe not by the same man) does that mean that her policies which would have led to the mass killings of white armed service members in wars against Russia etc, and disenfranchisement and immiseration of the American nation via total immigration and abolishment of the constitution (first and second amendment etc) at an exponentially faster rate then Trump means she isn’t anti-white?

    Ilhan Omar apparently has a white boyfriend – would her ‘total immigration’ policies where every single one of the 2.4billion Africans who will exist by 2050 want to come to the United States must be permitted be anti-white? Well surely not, she has a white boyfriend after all.

    The same applies to Alexandria Ocacia Cortez. She apparently savours white men. Do her policies which ensure no more will exist in maybe two generations mean she isn’t anti-white?

    Trump is ‘not’ the most Xenophobic leader in history. I don’t care if Lee won’t get invited to the faculty potluck if she doesn’t say the most egregious nonsense. Trump is a civic-nationalist – and he will be the last one. From either side of the aisle. That is abundantly clear.

    Lee is a beneficiary of Han Minzu Zhuyi. Tell me, do you believe that if she were to repeat this nonsense at home about how the entire world is Han and China must open itself to immigration from all-comers etc and the history of China repelling Hun and Mongol and Tartar invasion is racist that she wouldn’t be arrested and arraigned? That’s why Brimelow said it was pure hypocrisy. Because it is pure hypocrisy. It’s quite verminous hypocrisy that almost approaches the Jewish scale of hypocrisy.

    Lee’s basic-bitch progressive litany amounts to ‘every generation of American nationalists has been right, so therefore this one is wrong’. Franklin was right about the Germans, they were right about the Catholics, they were right about the Irish, and the Italians, and especially the Jews, and the Chinese. They’re right about the Muslims. They were right about everyone.

    At every point, Nationalists have been right. The pending partition simply proves the point. You refer to a bitter political conflict – what do you think that bitterness and conflict stems from Ron? Is it a function of identity politics?

    She doesn’t mention what you yourself noted in your American Pravda piece on organized crime – Japanese Americans were put in camps by Jews, who then stole all of their capital. Why is that? Because Brimelow is right – her purpose is simply to stigmatize white people, not any other race or ethnic group of demographic. So she omits factual information that opposes her bias.

    Exclusion is inherent to the existence of nations – something she regards as perfectly licit if it pertains to her own nation, China, and it’s national geography. Would she have married a white man in China? Where is Ms Lee’s long series of books about the racist Chinese expulsions of the European traders in the 19th century for example? That was racist wasn’t it?

    She brings up Israel Zangwill – he was a reprobate Jew who emigrated to England who never set foot in America. And his play the melting pot is basically about a Jew who comes to pyschologically dominate his Shiksa English maid. How ever interesting that she is basically saying that the United States never was a melting pot, until sinister foreigners spread propaganda to that effect.

    Then she goes on to say “In these ways, Americans have embraced and embodied the core American ideals and values that xenophobia has threatened. May their examples serve as inspiration to us all who seek to challenge xenophobia in our own time”.

    Which is a category error – because she isn’t American, and has no more sense of American liberty and American ideals then an Eskimo hunter-gatherer or a Papua New Guinean Stick fisherman.

    She is a classic immigrant usurper telling the natives that she is ‘the real American’ and then proceeding to redefine and subvert and undermine and change the values she says she is upholding.

    She then talks about how American erroneously went “rightward on a number of political issues – not only immigration, but also gun control, abortion rights, welfare reform and the environment”.

    What is clear now is that the so-called debate on these issues isn’t intra-American but between America and it’s enemies. Her true status shimmers throughout her piece. She isn’t American, she is seeking to impugn, subvert, change and if unsuccessful destroy America.

    Brimelow is exactly correct.

    Everything you say is true, but totally immaterial to whether she is anti-white or not. She is. She is anti-white. Exactly the same way she’d be anti Han if she repeated this litany of nonsense about China’s attempts at self-preservation.

    She isn’t wanted in the United States Ron.

    TruNews before they got shoahed from Youtube talked about a Jew Coup and the pending destruction of Christian white Americans.

    This kind of thing: http://www.captainsjournal.com/2019/11/27/virginia-senate-bill-no-64-declaring-tactical-training-illegal/

    Doesn’t fill one with hope for a peaceful future.

    Why are these invaders trying so hard to disarm the natives?

    Remember – the Chinese repelling the Huns and everyone else was racist, xenophobic and they should be censured and forced to pay reparations to their descendents, right? Oh, but it’s different if they come ‘legally’ right, when the group already there make it ‘legal’.

    Absolutely ridiculous. Brimelow is 100% correct.

    • Agree: Miro23, Herbert West
    • Disagree: Biff
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Malla
    , @Reg Cæsar
  154. stevecel says:

    Look, good or bad, China is going to cost the “white race” a lot of biological units during the coming Wars. The problem is why nobody can stop this from taking place. It’s like watching a car crash or train wreck in slow motion all the while listening to the passengers chitter chatter about how much it’s going to hurt. Would higher IQs have prevented the death (and rebirth) of the West? Greater sexual dimorphism? Figure it out before it’s all over so when we do have to start again we at least have some data to work with, only this time try to encode it in something less onerous than your typical religious text and more intelligible than typical your cave drawing.

  155. anon[180] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Apologies for the strident tone – I’ll do better if I ever address you going forward. You’re quite right that she is probably a decent person. I just feel that it doesn’t really matter much to the import of her political positions, which are classic immigrant.

    So yes, I don’t mean to dress you down or anything, you’re my intellectual superior. Apologies if I didn’t speak solely to the issue.

  156. denk says:
    @Paul

    USA killed millions of ‘ragheads‘ since 911 on false pretexts,

    abetted genocide of Muslims in Kashmir,

    Orchestrated terrorism in Xinjiang via UIghurs militants,

    Blame the Chinese for the bloodbath.

    China runs a detoxing program to save UIghurs militants from blowing themselves up, together with hundreds of innocent bystanders.
    [[[sobs]]] malign it as ‘million UIghurs concentration camps, ‘ where innocent UIghurs are tortured, abused, ….’

    Those SOBS are the lowest of low life form,
    Im talking about those bastards in CIA and the deep state .
    Dont forget their MI6, ASIO cohorts either.

    BUt why do so many whiteys like Paul regurgitate those bastards big lies ?

    Im giving Paul the benefit of doubt that he’s simply stupid, in which case I advise him to do himself a favour , read this…

    ‘It would be funny if it wasn’t serious that Washington has taken up the cudgels against unproven abuses and repression of Uighurs in Xinjiang when the American Empire and its allies, under the guise of War on Terror and humanitarian intervention, have droned, bombed and killed millions of Muslim children, women and civilians in a dozen of countries from Afghanistan to Yemen, and displaced millions more.’
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/24/xinjiang-the-new-great-game/

    *Abuse the Tibetans*

    Dont get me started on Tibet , !

    • Replies: @Malla
  157. @follyofwar

    Your second two paragraphs don’t do anything to redress the guilt you emote in the first one. People who proclaim “blacks were brought here in CHAINS!!!!!!!! For the love of God CHAINNSSS!!!, I tell ya!!” are either hunting for an academy award, or have guilt. You’re also applying 21st century standards to 17th century practices. Disingenuous.

    Negroes were sold to slave traders by other negroes.

    “obviously short-sighted white men” Hindsight trumps short sight for the pearl clutchers. I bet those “obviously short sighted men” would have come to the same conclusion about the white men that, after freeing the slaves, didn’t seek to return them to their homelands immediately.

    Looking at today’s American negroes, the whites who came after the slave owners look a lot more short sighted to me as well.

  158. Richard B says:
    @Miro23

    There is a claimed moral basis for “anti-whiteness” but it just looks like a traditional (in this case anti-Anglo) power game.

    Yep. That’s pretty much it.

  159. Anonymous[281] • Disclaimer says:
    @GMC

    >”This war against the White America society is as real as it gets.”

    Yet whites continue to whine-talk-kvetch, not unite and effectively fight back.

    What did white Western men do when the Left…

    …drugged boys for being imperfect girls;

    …sued male colleges (from Harvard to VMI) to admit women;

    …changed “rape” definitions to included mere “touching”;

    …called marriage “slavery”;

    …deemed masculinity toxic;

    …besieged the family;

    …mocked Christianity;

    ….celebrated gayness uber alles;

    …blamed DV solely on men;

    …made making first-moves “harassment”;

    …welcomed women into to the military (provided they never actually fight and die);

    …and so on?

    Guys did N-O-T-H-I-N-G…which permitted societal devolution to the point where endless cultural clusterfarks (from Pride Parades to drag queen “kiddie hours” in libraries) are not the abnormal norm.

    It’s easy to defeat societies where men refuse to fight.

  160. @anon

    Jews themselves are submissive to blacks up close. What other races fear about blacks is brute force, a lower level of concern for their own physical safety in or other consequences, a general toxicity (They are often crack addicts or have the AIDS virus due to some West African malarial adaptation that creates an open vector in their genome), a civil disruption etc.

    All of you seem to have forgotten the years leading up to the LA riots. Korean shopkeepers, openly racist, shot blacks like dogs and got away with it in courts of law. During the LA riots themselves, Koreans, though vastly outnumbered, demonstrated that higher IQ individuals with firepower will succeed over lower IQ individuals with firepower.

    Same thing has happened with gangs. Mexican gangs comprise members of half or even three-quarters Caucasian blood and their violence is better organized than that of blacks. They have also assumed control of prisons.

    The Jewish aptitudes are evolutionary. High verbal dexterity which lends itself to script writing, litigation and business deals. In a capitalist society with a free market such skills are valuable, but Jews themselves on the street level don’t fare well.
    Whoever controls the military and the Air Force controls the country. If Asians and Jews form a Leftist coalition that can keep the Pentagon under their command then they have the ultimate power.

    However, in more provincial cities black rioting is beginning to be irrelevant. Who cares if ghetto blacks in half-abandoned rundown post-industrial graveyards like Ferguson or Detroit riot? So they burn down their crack houses? Who cares. But if they venture into suburbs, which is impossible because they do not have the organizational capacity for supply chains and crack-addicted thugs are not going to camp overnight in the woods or even the gasoline supply, whites would pick them off like fish in a barrel.

    Asians in America will never be anything more than what Jews allow them to be in terms of political power. Ask Mr. Linh.

    And in actual race war Asians and Jews will simply leave the US. Period. As Matt Damon said, they are only visitors. Many Italian-Americans and some of the East Coast Irish with strong ties to the Celtic Tiger would leave.

    • Replies: @anon
  161. Malla says:
    @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    Browns (Mostly South Asians & Middle Easterners/ North Africans incl Jews, Some Hispanics & South East Asians ) will naturally gravitate to ghetto black culture because all browns are most probably partially black somewhere up the genetic line and our primitive side tends to have a greater hold on our mass taste and instincts than their more evolved (colder/ Northern) side in general.

    I was listening to this interview about multicultural France on an Hungarian show (with English subtitles obviously) by a half French half Hungarian guy who had recently moved forever to Hungary from France.
    It was a great interview but there was one portion which was interesting. He said that the earliest France born Arab youth from North Africa who were all working class immigrants/invaders etc… were a lot into ghetto black American culture back in the 70s and 80s. There was working class French culture around them, they could have picked it up but they naturally gravitated to black culture far way in North America than pick up working class French culture, culture of people more genetically similar to them then full fledged blacks. This was before Islamisation of the North African youth happened.

    So you see, there is something in most (not all) brown people which makes us naturally gravitate towards ghetto black culture and I suspect that the more primitive tropical black side of our ancestry has a greater hold over the instincts of us brown people in general than the more evolved cold climate Caucasoid/Mongoloid side of our ancestry. The evolved cold side of our ancestry gave us higher IQs and ability for civilization than pure blacks, tho…

    • Replies: @anon
  162. Malla says:

    East Asians in Western countries have long observed that in the West, if you act uncivilized, cry victim and make a lot of noise, you get stuff and respect from media/ academia etc… That is how things have been working in the West and it is not exactly the best inspiration of groups to behave. North East Asians and a few South East Asians have been frequently called ‘house niggers’ by other non Whites and Whites take them for granted. While many Whites are scared off, respect or drool over brown-black thuggards and slimeballs. So why act civilized when acting savage gets you stuff & respec?

    Kinda remembers me of Nesta Webster’s book on the British Empire ‘Surrender Of an Empire‘ where she writes how in the early 1900s the Govt of British India since the Jew Montague became Secretary of State for India, benefited the anti- Empire extremists and softly punished the large number of Indian loyalists towards the Empire.

    From her book
    “Another effect of the Dyer affair was to discourage loyal Indians who, after supporting the British Raj, were left to the mercy of the Extremists. As’ an Indian observed to an acquaintance of the present writer at the time : “ We have nothing to lose by being England’s enemies and nothing to gain by being her friends.” ”

    So this is a long Jew policy. Punish those who support real traditional Western civilization and reward those who work to destroy it, like most blacks, Asian Indians, Muslims in general etc…. And that is having its effect on East Asian Americans too. Why support America and Western Civilization. Too much sacrifice. Go to the darker side, the Zio elite side, the Satanic side, the anti-White side and a lot of rewards. They have nothing to lose by being America’s and the West’s enemies and nothing to gain by being America’s and the West’s friends.

  163. Malla says:
    @denk

    abetted genocide of Muslims in Kashmir,
    Orchestrated terrorism in Xinjiang via UIghurs militants

    Very convenient and sneaky.
    Genocide in Kashmir but terrorism in Xinziang/ Eastern Turkmenistan. Why not the other way round?
    Genocide in Xinziang/ Eastern Turkmenistan and terrorism in Kashmir??

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Jeff Stryker
  164. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Ilhan Omar apparently has a white boyfriend – would her ‘total immigration’ policies where every single one of the 2.4billion Africans who will exist by 2050 want to come to the United States must be permitted be anti-white? Well surely not, she has a white boyfriend after all.

    The same applies to Alexandria Ocacia Cortez. She apparently savours white men. Do her policies which ensure no more will exist in maybe two generations mean she isn’t anti-white?

    Jealousy of White women??? That could partly explain their desire to finish off the White race even if that means the destruction of White men they love so much. Sometimes hatred and jealousy drives all kind of irrational hateful behaviours.

    A lot of brown black women (unless they are supermodel/ celebrity level in looks and the White women around them are ugly bitches) have this crazy jealousy of even average White women. They will deny it if asked claiming, how black/brown is beautiful or whatever blah blah blah…. But a lot of them have a massive hatred and envy for White women especially Northern Euro/ light eyed-light haired women. More hatred and envy if the White woman is classy and not trashy.

  165. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    How were Koreans racist when blacks were the ones trying to smash their stores lol?
    And there are no visitors to America, this place is for anybody and everybody. Jews have
    completely uprooted any traditional conception of America. No one gives a shit about who’s a “real” American anymore.

  166. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    The ancient black blood found in these brown peoples is probably Australoid rather than African/Negroid. Ancient Australoid skulls found in India, SE Asia, Arabia and of course the people around today in the Pacific islands.

    • Replies: @Malla
  167. KenH says:
    @anon

    Most normie whites are somewhat submissive more to blacks than Jews but based on my experience my fellow whites aren’t as contemptuous and hostile towards Asians as you think. Normie whites are the most contemptuous towards lower class and poor whites since they’ve learned that that’s righteous bigotry and poor whites deserve no sympathy or respect unlike poor blacks who are dumb, poor and violent only because of “systemic racism”.

    • Replies: @anon
  168. denk says:
    @Malla

    Spare me your B.S. ‘malla’,

    In Kashmir, Indian troops routinely shoot at protesting youths at point blank.
    Its all reported in India’s own press.

    IN Xinjiang, CIA proxy UIghurs militants
    attacked Han and other minorities with bombs,
    knifes , car ramping…

    Typical ‘malla’ speaking in forked tongue.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  169. Malla says:
    @anon

    Very true. But our Australoid ancestors were primitive hunter gatherers as well. In many traits they have similarity with Negroids being a pure tropical people who did not go through the conditions Caucasoids and Mongoloids went through in the icy north.

    • Replies: @anon
  170. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    I think certain people would benefit greatly if there was hostility between whites and Asians, even if its not real but is manufactured online. It seems there is a pattern where jews always side with blacks when the blacks are in dispute with any non-black people, except the jews themselves lol. Thats why ethnic people like Arabs, Hispanics, Indians, East Asians etc. always notice the blacks being favored and propped up in American society.

    • Replies: @KenH
  171. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Actually Australoids are genetically the farthest from African Negroids. In fact, they are genetically closest to Mongoloids believe it or not. If you look at people from Papua New Guinea for example, you can distinguish them from Africans. They grow full beards and are less darker, have much sharper features than flat-faced Africans. Quite strangely, American blacks look more similar to these Pacific people than Africans.

    • Replies: @Malla
  172. @Malla

    Sir.

    I was one of an Limited Liability Company that financed the Sunny Leone horror film I EAT YOUR SKIN in Cebu, Philippines in 2011 (IMDb the title, it is available now). I know the woman somewhat and her husband better.

    I know India.

    Kashmir Hindus and especially Pandits were driven out of Kashmir. Denk does not know this.

    If a person is going to talk about India, they should at least go there for a month.

    • Replies: @Malla
  173. Malla says:
    @denk

    Ya ya denk, I get the memo. Your philosophy is VERY SIMPLE.
    Chinese Communist Party always right.

    People’s Republic of China – benevolent, caring, perfect balance of yin & yang, splendid, kind, wonderful, perfect, tender, compassionate, big hearted, humanitarian, neighbourly, philanthropic, magnanimous, humane (did I miss something?)

    Stupid foreigner barbarians 名 who disagree that People’s Republic of China is Great and Perfect – evil, stupid, lentil-head, malevolent, rude, yin-yang out of balance, spiteful, greedy, atrocious, pirates, war-pigs, smelly, nasty, merciless, inhuman, brutish, dense, idiotic, half-witted, imbeciles, ridiculous etc…

    CCP perfect and always right.

    Ya rite.

    • Replies: @denk
  174. Hibernian says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    No Chinese would have zero effect on Hollywood. Ashkenazi Jews and Irish-Catholics would still have built Hollywood and the MSM.

    Were Hibernian sidekicks in the media industries any more common than Italian or WASP ones? Actors and press agents, mainly, I think.

  175. Hibernian says:
    @Tired of Not Winning

    We Irish Catholics are of very smilar genetic stock to that of the WASPs. Plenty of Viking raider blood. The main thing that separates us is our adherence, by and large, to the Catholic Faith.

  176. Hibernian says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “Catholic churches and Jewish temples in America are expensive and even awe-inspiring. But Evangelical Protestant churches are wooden and poor-looking.”

    WASPS built some very impressive Episcopalian churches, and churches of other Protestant denominations as well.

  177. denk says:
    @Malla

    Paul talk about

    Chinese abuse of Tibetans

    He’s a typical dumped down whitey.
    He was fed too much kool aid from the presstitudes, who told him there was a ‘
    brutal crackdown on peaceful protestors in Tibet, 2008.
    Well, here’s eye witness account….from the notorious anti Chinese CNN, no less.
    There were brutality alright,… from agent provocateurs sneaked in from India, on Han and Hui civilians.
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2008/03/taiwan-election.html

    Paul, like too many whiteys, doesnt even know there’s another Tibet, …..
    The Tibet that no anglos , Indians dare to talk about, …
    The genocide of Nagas, thru the eye of a Sikh.

    When i searched back in history of independent India, i was stunned to see the atrocities committed on Nagas in North-east though Kashmir is on it’s current agenda and the local kashmiris are being killed since beginning of 1989. But most of you are already aware by atrocities on kashmiri people so i write about Nagas.
    Just know their agony also, hoe their thousands of youths were killed, their women raped and their villages burnt in ashes. Some of Nagas too enjoyed high positions when they shook hands with Indian govt. like our Akalis and some other sold outs did.

    https://asrandhawa.wordpress.com/2014/03/15/why-nagas-sikhs-or-kashmiri-voice-of-plebiscite-and-demand-of-their-independence-is-crushed-in-india/

    • Replies: @Malla
  178. Malla says:
    @denk

    IN Xinjiang, CIA proxy UIghurs militants
    attacked Han and other minorities with bombs,
    knifes , car ramping…

    In Kashmir, Pakistani ISI proxy Kashmiri militants attack innocent Kashmiris and other Indians with bombs and bullets.

    • Replies: @denk
  179. Malla says:
    @denk

    denki, we are not great People’s Republic of China. Only PRC is perfect and always right. We are imperfect, always wrong barbarians. What did you expect?

    • Replies: @denk
  180. Malla says:
    @anon

    Yes you are right, Australoids are genetically very different than Negroids and a very older race than Negroids. And yes one can make out Papuans very easily from African blacks. Actually negroids are a very young race but with many primitive Homo-erectus traits. However being a pure tropical race they the Papuans/ Abos have similar tendencies to African Negroids compared to the more cold adapted Caucasoids and Mongoloids. We South Asian browns got a huge dose of Caucasoid and even a little Mongoloid DNA over millennia but originally we were a black Australoid like population. Now we are a hybrid race. Now even the tribals living in Central and South Indian subcontinent have Caucasoid DNA in them but less than upper caste Hindus.

    • Replies: @anon
  181. PPB says:
    @Colin Wright

    A bit of selective replacement from abroad would be OK by me, as long as it doesn’t increase population pressure by a noticeable amount. That strategy might even enhance the overall quality of the population. Of course you’d need to establish a political consensus regarding the selective criteria to be applied, and therein lies the rub.

    Nevertheless, a monetary system based upon debt repayable at compound interest demands, if not an ever-growing consumer base, at least some other foundation to keep the momentum growing (e.g. trade among bots, alongside increasingly redundant humans?). So either we’ll eventually have an economic crash or else a natural or epidemiological catastrophe to cull the population back to a more manageable level. Balance always prevails in the end, although it’s usually a topsy-turvy ride until we get there, provided that there actually is such a thing as “the end” to begin with. Even if there isn’t, “in the end” always makes for a convenient rhetorical device 🙂

  182. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    I agree with most of what you say. However the Ainu of Japan are said to be cold-adapted Australoids, which makes sense given Japan’s location and which is fascinating because I have a feeling that Australoids are better at adapting to different environments while African Negroids are not naturally at home anywhere except sub-Saharan Africa.

    • Replies: @Malla
  183. denk says:
    @Malla

    We are imperfect, always wrong barbarians. What did you expect?

    Yeah, that’s just about it…

    http://www.unz.com/avltchek/in-indonesian-borneo-humiliate-native-people-then-look-their-land/#comment-3288282

  184. denk says:
    @Malla

    Uighur militants mostly attack civilians, soft target.

    Kashmiris militants attack Indian occupying troops.

    Big difference.

    • Replies: @Malla
  185. Ahoy says:

    Erica Lee writes “Trump is the most xenophobic President”

    I wonder how she would describe Nitiniahu who expels from Israel Ethiopean Jews because they are black.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  186. KenH says:
    @anon

    I think certain people would benefit greatly if there was hostility between whites and Asians,

    Asians only have themselves to blame. They are voting anti-white Democrat at 70% and increasingly are embracing pro-Asian & anti-white identity politics and seem to be following the Jew script on race. Like most non-whites it appears they see themselves not as unhyphenated Americans but as Asians living in America. They are making themselves enemies of the native white racial stocks.

    If Asian leaders told whites that we disagree some things but are both being shafted on affirmative action I think an alliance of both groups could maybe get AA rolled back in a lot of places. But the other problem is that whites were stupid in letting high achieving Asians into the nation to dominate university enrollment on their way to becoming a semi-hostile overclass. No proud and healthy people would allow that and whites are literally insane but I repeat myself.

    Long ago it stopped being immigration and is now colonization and conquest of America by the various non-white groups, including Asians.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Flint Clint
  187. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    I don’t know what to tell you, because I can only speak for myself, but I do not approve of the prevailing orthodoxy. And East Asians are usually engineers or number crunchers working under Jew or Indian bosses, so if any Asian group is about to become an overclass, its probably Indians rather than East Asians.

    • Replies: @KenH
  188. @KenH

    It’s more then that.

    Asians respect strength. As Unz says, they conform.

    Whites acting like Chinese will attract not repel.

    • Replies: @KenH
  189. Anon[223] • Disclaimer says:

    In the context of Erika Lee’s Chinese homeland, my family history is the history of Anglo exclusion.

    Except to a much greater degree than Chinese exclusion in the USA, in either of the historical or modern contexts. As evidenced by the far fewer Anglos in China than Chinese in the United States, and by their far lesser integration into Chinese society and its class hierarchy.

    This cunt is too dense top live if she doesn’t believe that showing her political reflection back to her eventually can’t take her and her group down in the United States. She’d be much better off appreciating the integration ad inclusion that she has been allowed than agitating for non-White US takeover.

  190. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Ya Jeff, I know you have been in India. Yes the Kash Pundits were kicked out. But Kashmir is a complicated place where the Indian Govt is not exactly, er..innocent.

    I was one of an Limited Liability Company that financed the Sunny Leone horror film I EAT YOUR SKIN in Cebu, Philippines in 2011 (IMDb the title, it is available now). I know the woman somewhat and her husband better.

    Hey, that is pretty cool. Her husband is a weird looking (and reportedly nasty) Jewish guy.
    Tell me more about this. Your company just financed so was not involved in the filming I guess. Is Sunny Leone arrogant by nature?

  191. Malla says:
    @anon

    The Ainu are strange. Some say they looked like Australoids, some say they looked like Caucasoid and they have obviously mixed with the Yamato. Very interesting people. According to Richard Fuerle, Australoids, desert Australoids at least, are a type of primitive Caucasoids. Similarly the Khoi San/ Bushmen absorbed some primitive Mongoloid group who ended up in Africa.

    African Negroids are not naturally at home anywhere except sub-Saharan Africa

    True.

    • Replies: @anon
  192. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:

    When the minorities take over, which they will do soon, they will fight each other tooth and nail and destroy the country.

  193. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    I’ve always thought that Khoisan are a very strange group. Do you have any resources where it says they absorbed some ancient Mongoloids? I’ve never heard of any genetic connection between any Africans and Mongoloids, but given the appearance of Khoisan, they completely made me question everything I knew about race…

    • Replies: @Malla
  194. Malla says:
    @denk

    Uighur militants mostly attack civilians, soft target.

    Uighur nationalists mostly attack State backed colonisers like the Han, foreign people who should not have been on their land in such large numbers in the first place.

    • Replies: @Lin
  195. Bookish1 says:
    @Hacienda

    All that is saying nothing.

  196. Bookish1 says:
    @Stan

    Who reads the NYT nowadays.

  197. Lin says:
    @Malla

    While I understand your sentiment being a rakshak of bharak, you just ignore:
    1)Bharat is rife with tribal/religious wars/lynching like 10s of 1000s of sihks were killed by politicians-led mobs in 1984, 1000s of muslims were killed to avenge 58 hindus killed in Godhra in 2002….
    2)Xinjiang and Tibet are heavily financially subsidized regions in china.
    3)BTW,as I said before, the Uyghurs were not the original aborigines in Xinjiang(a Persian speaking people were and they’re still there)and hans have a presence in Xinjiang as long as the Uyghurs.
    …………
    Regarding boycotting Chinese goods in Bharat, I must remind you that customers there (like those elsewhere) prefer made items made in China(or other manufactureing power houses), ranged from pots&pans,…, cellphones…to solar panels.. because of the price, not buddy-buddy sentiment.
    If the Indians want to buy them from japan, S korea, germany, US,…, go ahead.
    ……
    ‘Make in India’? Tell me why Indians have a successful IT related service industry to enable higher caste/class Indians to work in air-conditioned office but not low-value added assembly lines to employ 10s of millions of poor low caste/class Indians?

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Malla
  198. Bookish1 says:
    @Ahoy

    She would probably kiss his behind if it advanced her position in some way.

  199. denk says:
    @Lin

    ‘Malla’ always speak in forked tongue.

    BTW, if he’s ‘Indian’, Im jeesez christ.

    hehehhe

    • Replies: @Malla
  200. Malla says:
    @anon

    Check out Richard Fuerle’s book ‘Erectus Walks Amonst Us’.

    https://archive.org/download/ErectusWalksAmongstUs_201812/Erectus%20Walks%20Amongst%20Us.pdf

    Both the Khoi San and East Asians have some anatomical similarities like shoveled incisors, something Negroids, Whites and even Australoids do not have.

    Anyways on a different note, I do not know if this is true but I have an Indian friend in Melbourne who has traveled a lot throughout Australia, New Zealand and South East Asia. He has travelled in the outbacks, bit of the adventurous type he is. He sez that many pure Aboriginals pure White hybrids look like South Indians or Sri Lankans. When such mixed persons marry a White person again the kids look like North Indians or Middle Easterners/Arabs. I do not know if that is true, but if that is true, that would explain a lot.

    • Replies: @anon
  201. Malla says:
    @Lin

    Compared to the other Chinese on Unz, you Lin, seem to have a very good understanding of the subcontinent. I wonder if you have lived in the Indian subcontinent for a long period of time like Jeff Stryker.

    While I understand your sentiment being a rakshak of bharak, you just ignore:
    1)Bharat is rife with tribal/religious wars/lynching like 10s of 1000s of sihks were killed by politicians-led mobs in 1984, 1000s of muslims were killed to avenge 58 hindus killed in Godhra in 2002….

    Very true. That is why only an outside power like the British could unite the subcontinent. Once they left, things started falling apart (Pakistan then Bangladesh).

    Xinjiang and Tibet are heavily financially subsidized regions in china.

    So were many colonial holdings of the European powers and maybe even Japan. So are Kashmir and North East. Money is no alternative for freedom.

    BTW,as I said before, the Uyghurs were not the original aborigines in Xinjiang(a Persian speaking people were and they’re still there)and hans have a presence in Xinjiang as long as the Uyghurs.

    Yes I know, the Pamiris are the aboriginals there. But the Han Chinese are outsiders too, more outsider than Uyghurs. Han Chinese are not the original inhabitants of Singapore, but Singaporean Chinese are angry with outsiders like recent Indians migrating in large numbers. The Ughyur were in Xinjiang/East Turkmenistan way before the Chinese were in Singapore. The Mughals of India had culture and dress very similar to the Uyghurs. Indeed the classical Indian dance of Kathak was highly influenced by Uyghur dance as the Mughals were originally Uzbek-Mongol-Uyghur-Turkmen.

    Origin of Indian Kathak-Mughal dance (Uyghur dance)

    If the Indians want to buy them from japan, S korea, germany, US,…, go ahead.

    That is what the nationalists are encouraging. Either Buy made in India or from countries who are friendly to India. China’s closeness with Pakistan is what pisses Indian Nationalists off.

    Tell me why Indians have a successful IT related service industry to enable higher caste/class Indians to work in air-conditioned office but not low-value added assembly lines to employ 10s of millions of poor low caste/class Indians?

    Indian educated upper caste elites are like Jews. We are what Akarlin described- a Jew-Gypsy nation with a Jewish elite ruling over a huge Gypsy population. I guess that is when you get with Caucasoid-Australoid (with 10-15% Mongoloid) hybrid populations at the end.
    Besides people who work with their hands were always considered lower caste. This is similar to the attitude that many Arab and Jewish cultures have too. People who farm and work with their hands were lower class and deserved contempt. Europeans and North East Asians at least do not mind working with their hands. Maybe cold climate influence. Even Persian Zoroastrianism considered farming a good holy profession unlike the Arabs, Jews and Indians around them. May be some ancient Aryan influence. The British in India did not import White labour and farmers (British soldiers were exception, soldiers are Kshatriya-upper caste) to India because if White farmers would have worked with their hands like they did in Australia or South Africa, Europeans would be considered lower caste by the Indians and lose respect.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  202. Malla says:
    @denk

    Then you really ARE Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God. And since you are Jesus Christ, the Universe is doomed.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @denk
  203. denk says:

    whiteys need not fret about Chinese WMM,
    The new Chinese exclusion act is on.

    murkka is in good hand…

    https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/all/2019/10/29/us_wants_all_huawei_and_zte_kit_ripped_out/

  204. @Malla

    Sir. I lived in India off and on for ten years.

    Goa had a Latin feel. People with crosses tattooed on their hands. Cochin was as Dravidian as it gets. Kashmir, vaguely Russo-Iranic. Everywhere in India is mixed.

    As for Brahmin, well, they seemed to have some of the same verbal dexterity as Jews and if they originated from the same Black Sea Slavic stock I wouldn’t be surprised.

    Generally, Brahmin are effeminate however. Whatever Slavic manliness their Aryan ancestors had 3,000 years ago is gone. They are fairies. Many of the males are pedophiles. Some of the women are oversexualized nymphos. There was the Bengali Gaur woman married to a flaming homo and she screwed every Gora in Dubai with a penis.

    • Replies: @Malla
  205. @Wally

    Well, I don’t see China, Japan or either Korea falling all over themselves to take in everyone in the world who wants a better life, health care, education etc. The US has lots of successful Chinese, despite “exclusion”.

  206. denk says:
    @Malla

    malla

    ‘ terrorism in Kashmir,

    So you approve Uighurs militants chopping up Han civilians in Xinjiang,
    but Kashmiris militants fighting Indian occupying force are ‘terrorists’. ?

    Typical forked tongue ‘Malla’

    • Replies: @Malla
  207. @Tired of Not Winning

    I suspect not “surely somewhere”. No-borders proponents don’t know math and don’t want to. These are the types who say Western math is racist. yet they don’t mind watching TV, driving cars, or rapping with boomboxes. They freely engage in cultural appropriation every time they use electricity (or play basketball!), but go into conniption fits if a white wears a hula skirt on Halloween. Unless a white man is wearing it, of course. In which case he (she, they?) is a SJW Person of the Week.

    • Agree: Malla
  208. elchucko says:
    @sally

    Yea see how that would work out. 😉

  209. Ope says:

    Wasn’t excluded enough

  210. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Goa had a Latin feel. People with crosses tattooed on their hands.

    Portuguese influence in Goa vs British influence in the rest of India (except Pondicherry which was French).

    Generally, Brahmin are effeminate however. Whatever Slavic manliness their Aryan ancestors had 3,000 years ago is gone. They are fairies. Many of the males are pedophiles.

    We all got mixed up. My DNA test said my male Y-DNA originated in the Ukraine. While our female mt-DNA, is shared with South East Asian female DNA and Papuans/Australian Abos. I guess South East Asia was invaded by Mongoloid men who took the local black women and killed the men while in South Asia, Caucasoid men took the black women and killed the men.

  211. Malla says:
    @denk

    So you approve Uighurs militants chopping up Han civilians in Xinjiang

    No. But what are they to do to get their independence and their nation back and make their nation majority Uyghur as it once was?

    t Kashmiris militants fighting Indian occupying force are ‘terrorists’. ?

    I support independence for Kashmir and even North East India but you do not support independence of East Turkestan even if by plebiscite the Uyghurs decide they want independence from CCP imperialism. That is the difference.

    Han are afraid of barbarians will come and conquer China again so let us keep barbarians under control. That was before, it is now impossible for a bunch of fierce warriors (Manchus, Mongols, Mughals, Afghans etc…) to conquer modern states like China and India.

    • Replies: @denk
  212. Lin says:

    So were many colonial holdings of the European powers and maybe even Japan. So are Kashmir and North East. Money is no alternative for freedom.

    In terms of financial subsidies/Tibet-Xinjiang capita, the fact that china is still a developing country and the original backwardness of Tibet, that’s of a different order of financial help.
    Freedom? How about freedom from religious fanaticism/theocracy? The N-E provinces of china were once called Manchuria and for a long time,if I remember right, I only came across a lone post to do with Manchu separatism. The Chinese govt some years ago found out only 8 person there could still speak the Manchu language and was trying to teach more Manchu kids their native language.
    ……………
    I’ve never set foot in india. I just have a wide range of interests that include religions..astronomy.
    ……………
    The sino-india schism/rivalry could’ve been avoided if back in 1962, Nehru realized Bharat Uday has a time-table. Just ponder and compare: what Bharat and china have lost/gained as a result of that war?
    (One thing that amazes me is that Bharat as an ancient civilization lacks sense of planning and historical perspectives. The following is a list of modern and ancient indian historians and all but one have a photograph; guess why? https://www.ranker.com/list/famous-historians-from-india/reference )
    Being said, in a way, I actually support hindutwa IN india. Here’s what I posted at a ‘liberal’ indian site: https://www.sabhlokcity.com/2019/10/my-next-centrepiece-toi-article-time-to-call-out-hindutva/#comment-1002579

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  213. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Thanks a lot bro. Have you thought maybe East Asians come from Khoisan instead? The similarities are too striking….
    And I always thought Arabs looked 75% Caucasoid and 25% Australoid, so your Indian friend is definitely on to something.
    I also find it strange how cold climate people don’t mind physical labor, but warm climate cultures like Arabs Jews and South Indians find labor contemptible.

    • Replies: @Malla
  214. Malla says:
    @Lin

    The Chinese govt some years ago found out only 8 person there could still speak the Manchu language and was trying to teach more Manchu kids their native language.

    Well the CCP can be kind to the official minorities. I remember a Chinese State TV show where all minorities along with the majority Han could show their music and dance. Pretty awesome. But when people want independence, I guess they want it. Anyways.

    The sino-india schism/rivalry could’ve been avoided if back in 1962, Nehru realized Bharat Uday has a time-table.

    The Indian state is arrogant and tries to bully its neighbours in South Asia. For some idiotic reason the Indian deep state thought it could end up bullying PR China and we got our asses kicked. Remember this is after the Korean War, when the PLA fought the Americans and the British, no joke that. I cannot believe the stupidity and the chest thumping of the Indian deep state in 1962 when it bit more than it could swallow. I guess, PR China had just suffered famine and there was some issue going on with ROC Taiwan (a lot of the PLA troops were posted on the Eastern side of China) so the Indian deep state thought they could snoop in and take some goddamn territory, harsh scrub land. Mao was very cautious and tried to peace things out but we Indians went to out usual chest thumping mode and got our asses kicked. I have heard American and Russian diplomats in videos say that we Indians (Indian state) are quite hard to deal with. But all that arrogance and chest thumping needs an Army that can deliver, which we did not. And many of the Indian soldiers were WW2 battle hardened veterans (Mao knew this and was cautious) from the Royal Indian Army of the British Raj. But some of the new Indian generals were incompetent fools, chest thumpers. BTW Bharat Uday will never ever happen.

    • Replies: @Malla
  215. Malla says:
    @Malla

    The truth is except some North Western South Asians like the Sikhs, Jats, Pathans (who have higher Caucasoid DNA than the average in the subcontinent) and the North Easters like Gurkha (who have higher Mongoloid DNA than the average in the subcontinent), Indian subcontinentals suck when fighting people of different race.

    Check out Lord William Bentinck, Viceroy of India wrote about the Russian menace to British India (Great Game Period in between the British and Russian Empires)

    [MORE]

    “The capability of the native army to meet it, and the manner in which the native military means of India can be turned to the greatest advantage, are subjects of the first magnitude. As far as experience can teach us, the prospect is discouraging as to any great degree of direct and positive assistance in the field, that is in actual conflict, to be expected from the sepoy in a contest with the stronger and bolder races of Central Asia, with or without the co-operation of a Russian force. Mr. Holt Mackenzie has given an opinion upon the question before us, which quite coincides with my view of it : —

    4 My impression is that as far as regards any Indian enemy the native army may be considered to be very efficient. I am not equally confident of this efficiency if placed in any new and unusual position and exposed to encounter enemies that may possibly come upon us from without. I think the result of the war with the Burmese seems to show that when brought against enemies superior in physical strength to those with whom they have been accustomed to contend, and required to surmount obstacles of a different kind from what they have been accustomed to surmount, the native troops, however well led, will be found to want resolution and nervous vigour so as to be inferior to European troops in a degree not ordinarily to be perceived in Indian warfare. Consequently I should apprehend that if they were called upon to meet an European enemy like Russia in the north of India they might fail partly from the want of physical strength and partly from the want of moral energy.

    The defects of the native of India are a want of physical strength and of moral energy. The first is beyond our remedy. It only depends upon ourselves to raise the latter to a much higher standard.

    The late wars have brought the sepoy in contact with enemies of masculine character, and have shown the justice of the preceding opinion.

    Sir David Ochterlony, in his confidential report to Government during the Nepal war, has recorded his opinion that the sepoys were unequal to contend with the Gurkhas in the hills.

    The Burmese war was exclusively carried on by British troops. The Madras troops entirely failed. It is understood that Sir Archibald Campbell was strongly prejudiced against them, and when granting the request of their officers to be permitted to lead their men to the attack, he neglected the practice invariably adopted upon all other occasions of joining with them a proportion of European troops. To this their ill-success may be in part owing.

    With respect to the inability of the sepoys to contend with an European enemy, the concurrent opinion of all the evidence, to which may be added the inference to be drawn from all our own conquests in India, seems to be decisive upon the question.

    For my own part I am not quite disposed to come to the same desponding conclusion, because if the bolder and larger man of the north were mixed with a due proportion of European Russian troops, and excited to acts of valour by sufficient encouragement, I know not why he should not acquire the same superior bearing as the Portuguese and the Neapolitans under British and French direction. But of the sepoys of the south of India, of those of the territories proper of Madras and Bombay, I entertain no such hope. Their case cannot be more favourably put for them than by supposing them to be Europeans, and to have all the advantages of the European character, and then let it be asked if men of such physical inferiority would be received as recruits in any European army, or if an army so constituted would not be considered perfectly inefficient.

    All these facts and opinions seem to me to establish incontrovertible that a large proportion of European troops is necessary for our security under all circumstances of peace and war. It surprises me to find how little attention was paid by the Committee to one of the most important parts of the inquiry, the relative proportions between the native and European force. But we fortunately possess the opinion of Sir Thomas Munro, the first of authorities, confirmed by another only second to his, that of Colonel John Munro, who filled the office of Quartermaster- General when I was at Madras. The opinions on both these questions are worthy of being noticed. The native troops are in an excellent state of discipline, but of course the Europeans are always superior to the natives.”

  216. Malla says:
    @Lin

    Being said, in a way, I actually support hindutwa IN india. Here’s what I posted at a ‘liberal’ indian site: https://www.sabhlokcity.com/2019/10/my-next-centrepiece-toi-article-time-to-call-out-hindutva/#comment-1002579

    Excellent Comment. All 100% true.

    The following is a list of modern and ancient indian historians and all but one have a photograph; guess why? https://www.ranker.com/list/famous-historians-from-india/reference

    Before the Islamic period, Hindu history writing (Itihasa) was preety under developed. Pre Islamic Indian history is not at all well developed and documented like Chinese, Japanese, British or Islamic history, it is more mythology of kings who lived for 20,000 years, conquered heaven and hell, demons with 100 heads and 20 bums dancing around and fighting the Gods. This is actually good, it gives license of construct any damn fanciful history as one likes. Nano technology, nuclear weapons and air planes in ancient India. In Hindu India mythology merges with history unless you cannot make them apart. It is Hindu version of Wakanda.

    The great historian James Mill spent twelve labourious years writing the History of India. According to him
    “On the geography and chronology, as parts of the literature of the Hindus, I shall express myself in the language of Mr. Wilford. “The Hindus,” says that celebrated Hindu scholar, “have no regular work on the subject of geography, or none at least that ever came to my knowledge.—I was under a necessity of extracting my materials from their historical poems, or, as they may be called more properly, their legendary tales.” In another place he says, “The Hindu systems of geography, chronology, and history, are all equally monstrous and absurd. The circumference of the earth is said to be 500,000,000 yojanas, or 2,456,000,000 British miles: the mountains are asserted to be 100 yojanas, or 491 British miles high. Hence the mountains to the south of Benares are said, in the Puranas, to have kept the holy city in total darkness, till Matra-deva growing angry at their insolence, they humbled themselves to the ground, and their highest peak now is not more than 500 feet high. In the Calica Purana, it is said that the mountains have sunk considerably, so that the highest is not above one yojana, or five miles high.—When the Puranics speak of the kings [66] of ancient times, they are equally extravagant. According to them, King Yudhishthir reigned 27,000 years; King Nanda is said to have possessed in his treasury above 1,584,000,000 pounds sterling in gold coin alone; the value of the silver and copper coin, and jewels, exceeded all calculation: and his army consisted of 100,000,000 men. These accounts, geographical, chronological, and historical, as absurd and inconsistent with reason, must be rejected.”

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  217. denk says:
    @Malla

    since you are Jesus Christ, the Universe is doomed.

    If IM gawd,

    Those who perpetrated ..

    Mh370
    [300 dead]

    Mh17

    TAM
    Tibet 2008
    Xinjiang 2009, 2014
    HK 2019

    Indon genocide 1965
    [3M massacred]

    INdon pogrom 1998
    [massacre and mass rape]

    Would be roasting in hell instead of prancing on the world stage, issuing sanctions ., right now, no need to wait until the day of judgement.

    Why is that a bad thing for you ?

  218. denk says:
    @Malla

    ‘Malla’s’ forked tongue twisting and turning fast and furious…..

    I support independence for Kashmir

    Begs the same question again …then why’r Kashmiris militants ‘terrorists’. ?

    • Replies: @Malla
  219. Malla says:
    @denk

    I was attacking your forked tongue where if anybody wants independence from PRC, they are ‘terrorists’ but when they want independence from India they are ‘freedom fighters’. Showing you how your double standards can be turned around.

    • Replies: @denk
  220. denk says:
    @Malla

    You’r obfuscating,

    terrorism

    the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

    In Xinjiang, UIghurs militants chopping up, bombing Han, Hui civilians ARE committing terrorism,

    IN Kashmir, Indian occupying force killing civilian are committing terrorism,. not the Kashmiris militants.

    • Replies: @Malla
  221. Malla says:
    @anon

    Have you thought maybe East Asians come from Khoisan instead? The similarities are too striking….

    The Khoi San might be primitive Mongoloids just as desert Australian Abos might be primitive Caucasoids. According to Mr. Fuerle, Africa is a collector of genes from Eurasia rather than being the source of genes. Maybe some primitive Mongoloids without the high IQ (yet) came and the genes spread among the Africans. There is also this theory that Negroids were formed by the mixing of Cromagnons (Europeans) and Homo erectus like human sub species. But since this mixing took place way back, maybe 12,000 years ago and after that the Negroids (other than Horn Africans like Ethiopians) did not receive any further northern genes (thanks to the Sahara dessert), they did not get any upgrade in IQ. Due to the ice cold, Caucasoid & Mongoloid IQs were rising with time and since we browns (both Caucasoid and Mongoloid types) got further northern ice people DNA waves much later with further enhanced IQs, which the black Negroids did not get, our IQs are higher.
    There are Caucasoid skulls back in Southern Africa like the Hofmeyer Skull, 40,000 years ago while the oldest Negroid skull is just 12,000 years ago.

    I also find it strange how cold climate people don’t mind physical labor, but warm climate cultures like Arabs Jews and South Indians find labor contemptible.

    Yes very interesting. Cold climate people had to fight nature, build superior tools to survive. Mixed brown warm climate people were more into cunning, swindling and dealing and competing with other humans. So the cunning ones became the elites and looked down upon the fools who had to do any form of physical work. That is one theory. However makes one wonder why didn’t the harsh conditions of the Arabian deserts not have a similar effect as the ice cold of the north. Arabs have some cultural practices like hospitality of outsiders which may have meant the difference in between life and death in the hot dry desert. However for some reason, farming as a profession is looked down in Arab cultures as against being a caravan driver, camel pastoralist, merchant, effendi etc….

    • Replies: @anon
  222. Malla says:
    @Lin

    More about Hindu history writing.
    The great Mr Mills writes

    ““That no Hindu nation, but the Cashmirians, have left us regular histories,” says Sir W. Jones, “in their ancient language, we must ever lament.” Asiat. Res. iv. xvii. What he meant by excepting the Cashmirians, we know not. No history of them has ever been seen. “Although we have had recourse,” says Dr. Tennant, “to the Sanscrit records at Benares for several years, no history of the country has been found, which is the composition of a native.” Ind. Rec. i. 10. “Their poets,” says Mr. W. Chambers, “seem to have been their only historians as well as divines; and whatever they relate is wrapped up in this burlesque garb, set off, by way of ornament, with circumstances highly incredible and absurd, and all this without any date, and in no order or method, than such as the poet’s fancy suggested and found most convenient. Asiat. Res. i. 157. Such is the character of the Puranas, from which Mr. Wilford has exerted himself with such a waste of labour and credulity to extract some scattered fragments of history; or rather something, it is difficult to say what, on which some few historical inferences might be founded. “The department of ancient history in the East Indies is so deformed by fable and anachronism, that it may be considered an absolute blank in Indian literature.” Wilks’s Mysore, Pref. p. xv. Mr. Dow’s prejudices went far: “We must not,” says he, (Preface to his Hist. of Hindostan) “with Ferishta, consider the Hindoos as destitute of genuine domestic annals, or that those voluminous records they possess are mere legends framed by the Bramins.””

    • Replies: @Lin
  223. Malla says:
    @Lin

    And South Asian bravery, Mr Mills writes further

    [MORE]

    “Mr. Wilford states, in the ninth volume of the Asiatic Researches, that the kings of Behar or Megadha were for many ages the sovereigns or lords-paramount of India. If such was the case, their descendants must have degenerated exceedingly; for at the period of the Mohammedan invasion, the Raja (King), instead of heading his army, in defence of his country and religion, shamefully absconded, leaving his capital, then a celebrated seat of Hindu learning (whence its name of Behar) so destitute, that it was taken by a detachment of 200 men, who put a number of the unopposing Brahmens to the sword, and plundered all the inhabitants.” (Hist. of Bengal, by Charles Stewart, Esq. p. 40.) Mr. Stewart speaks with judgment. Every thing in the state of India, as it was originally found by the Mahommedans, bears testimony against the fiction of a great monarchy, great prosperity, and great civilization.

    To some persons it may be of use to hear, that the sober good sense of Major Rennel makes him reject the theory of union. “History gives us the most positive assurances, that India was divided into a number of kingdoms or states, from the time of Herodotus, down to that of Acbar.” (Rennel’s Mem. Introd. p. xxxii.)
    They have always allowed themselves to be conquered in detail, just as the tribes of Gauls and Germans, by the Romans. Gaul, however, cost Julius Cæsar himself five years to subdue; and it several times carried fire and sword to the gates of Rome. The Gauls must have known much more of the art of war than the Hindus. See the fine generalship of Vercingetorix described by the conqueror himself in the 7th book of his commentaries; and analysed by Guischardt, Memoires Militaires sur les Grecs et les Romains, ch. xvi.—

  224. Angharad says:
    @sally

    So, (((Sally))) – you are a big fan of the Kalergi Plan then?

  225. KenH says:
    @anon

    No doubt you’re not following the bulk of the East Asian crowd and seem more independent about these matters than is the current norm among NE Asians.

    • Replies: @anon
  226. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    Don’t forget Japan, which in many ways is the best East Asian nation, has long been a base of red-pilled right-wing type of thinking. Germany must of seen something in them to ally with them right? And even today, Japan does its best to keep its ethnic character intact despite all the usual pressures from the usual suspects to become like modern Western Europe, teeming with two-legged animals straight from the African zoo. Pesonally I feel Africans need to be sterilized instead of being allowed to swallow up the globe with an exploding population.

    • Replies: @KenH
  227. KenH says:
    @Flint Clint

    Asians respect strength. As Unz says, they conform.

    Yes, and American whites are rightly perceived as weak and in decline. But that just highlights the difference in racial mentality between the European, especially the Nordic strain, and the oriental.

    Whites of North and NW European stock tend to be very sentimental towards racial groups that are struggling and down on their luck like the Amerindian, American and African negro and Palestinian whereas the oriental/East Asian is largely indifferent to minority groups or down on their luck peoples like the aforementioned.

    Sentimentality or what Dr. Kevin Macdonald describes as suicidal altruism is not conducive to the long term survival of whites and if we can’t learn to temper that trait then we will disappear from history.

    • Agree: Malla
  228. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    The only issue is Y-DNA and mtdna haplogroups. On that score, Khoisan and other Africans have very little ties with Eurasian populations. I personally feel like Caucaosids, Mongoloids, and Australoids are one mega-group, while Africans south of the Sahara are there own group.

    • Replies: @Malla
  229. Malla says:
    @denk

    In Xinjiang, UIghurs militants chopping up, bombing Han, Hui civilians ARE committing terrorism,

    Upgrade you GK please. Militants/freedom fighters in Kashmir have a long history of attack on civilians including foreign tourists.

    • Replies: @denk
  230. denk says:
    @Malla

    In fact, STATE TERRORISM is considered
    the most severe crime under international law…

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-conflict-in-kashmir/#comment-3395821

    • Replies: @Malla
  231. Malla says:
    @anon

    The only issue is Y-DNA and mtdna haplogroups.

    If you read Mr. Fuerle’s book, he explains very well, how Y & mt DNA may not give the full genetic-historical picture and may even mislead in some cases.

    while Africans south of the Sahara are there own group.

    Mr. Fuerle has a chapter in his book called Homo-Africanus where he comes to the same conclusion.

    • Replies: @anon
  232. Malla says:
    @denk

    And it is easier to know what is happening (state terrorism and all) in a democratic country than in a Communist dictatorship.

    • Replies: @denk
  233. denk says:
    @Malla

    My oh my !

    State terrorism and democracy is an
    oxymoron !

    • Replies: @Malla
  234. KenH says:
    @anon

    Don’t forget Japan, which in many ways is the best East Asian nation,

    Yes, but I meant to say NE Asians in the American diaspora who in some ways are becoming woke like Erica Lee and Sarah Jeong . Japan’s long term survival prospects are much better than many Western nations despite below replacement birth rates and suffering some of the same ails plaguing the West. The Japanese still have racial common sense and a sense of racial pride and uniqueness unlike the West who have yet to break the Jewish spell of racial equalitarianism and white racial self loathing although there are signs of stirring.

    If Africans aren’t subjected to mass sterilization or unless some other drastic measures are taken to reverse their (and the Muslims) horrible fecundity then their excess population will find its way to Europe and plunge that continent into a dark age. Europe, too, will become “the dark continent”.

    East Asian nations have the good sense not to allow black Africans to set foot on their soil, so they may inherit the earth while the white West exits history with a whimper. But at least we’ll have died as anti-racists!

  235. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    I think even Arab Muslims, even though they should also be sent back, are not as bad as African Negroids. Hell Arabs still refer to blacks as “abid” or slave. Outside of Jew-influenced English speaking countries, most people see Africans as the subhumans they are. I do think eastern Europe will keep the flame burning for European revival despite western Europe destroying itself.

  236. @Ron Unz

    Q: What does it mean to be American?
    A: To be American is something that you feel inside. It’s not just a legal status, although that matters a lot. It’s an embrace of what America stands for. That means something different for everybody.

    In other words, it’s meaningless.

    • Replies: @Malla
  237. Malla says:
    @Herbert West

    ‘Blood & Soil’ is the only way to define a nation which wants to last.

  238. Malla says:
    @denk

    State terrorism and democracy is an oxymoron !

    Very true denki. In Communism, State terrorism is an absolute certainty. It comes with the red package.

    • Replies: @denk
  239. denk says:
    @Paul

    Yeah sure, those chicoms ‘have been hacking into MIC database , siphoning off all our secrets’ !

    If that’s the way your MIC secure their database, then murkkans aint getting their tax monies worth , kiddo !

    Some times I really wonder about the whiteys advertised IQ.
    hehhhehe

    Forget about the chicoms kiddo,
    You’ve met your enemy and its…..

    I presume you see the contradictions there. Likely cause: such ‘theoretical’ weapons are ‘over budget’ – kinda like the supposedly ‘in service’ F-35, although, about 2/3 of them are not combat capable – to leech the US, which was and is considered by True American Patriots one of the most egregiious sins that an American businessman can make.

    https://www.sott.net/article/424973-Good-news-for-the-rest-of-the-planet-Over-half-of-US-aircraft-carrier-in-dry-dock-for-repairs

  240. Malla says:
    @KenH

    Japan’s long term survival prospects are much better than many Western nations despite below replacement birth rates and suffering some of the same ails plaguing the West.

    Unfortunately there has been a lot of pressure lately on Japan & S.Korea to open up. And many young Japanese are brainwashed too, talking about being kind to immigrants and taking in more.

    • Replies: @KenH
  241. denk says:
    @Malla

    State terrorism is an absolute certainty

    Yeah,
    GUilty until proven innocent.
    The murkkan way, or rather, the [[[five liars]]] way.

    Ooops, I forget, you’r a forked tongue ‘Indian’

    hehehehhe

    • Replies: @Malla
  242. Malla says:
    @denk

    GUilty until proven innocent.

    Nope, it is a law of history. State terrorism is a necessity in Communist countries. No need of trail, it is basic common sense and law of history.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  243. @Malla

    The circumference of the earth is said to be 500,000,000 yojanas, or 2,456,000,000 British miles

    Not a bad guess, if you divide by a lakh.

    • Replies: @Malla
  244. @Anonymous

    they were right about the Catholics

    So the Christian alternatives are snake handlers on one side, or UCC ball-gazers on the other?

    Or perhaps you prefer our indigenous “Christianities”– Mormonism, Christian Science, Adventists, Jehovah’s Witnesses? You can’t get more American than these– two of them were founded by women!

    • Replies: @Herbert West
  245. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    I always suspected that ancient India and SE Asia had Australoid inhabitants who got absorbed, but the fascinating thing is that even the southern Arabian peninsula, around Yemen, apparently also had Australoid natives. I notice many Gulf Arabs have a Veddoid-South Indian phenotype, not just brown skin color but the eyes, nose etc. I think Arabs are a mix of a Mediterranean Caucasoid people with an ancient Australoid substratum. At the same I think many northern Europeans have very ancient Central Asian-type ancestry given their eye-cheekbone appearance. If you take an Uzbek or Uyghur and change up his hair and skin color, they can easily pass as northern Europeans, although their eyes are too small to be Mediterranean.

    • Replies: @Malla
  246. Malla says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    True but a lakh is way off tho, a big number. 100000.

  247. Malla says:
    @anon

    I notice many Gulf Arabs have a Veddoid-South Indian phenotype, not just brown skin color but the eyes, nose etc. I think Arabs are a mix of a Mediterranean Caucasoid people with an ancient Australoid substratum.

    Very true, but the Arabs also absorbed Negroids via the slave trade. Arab men married black African woman and brought them up as Arabs. So a double dose of black, two different types of blacks. Arabs living in Asia Minor (Syria, Palestine, Lebanon Jordon) and in places like Tunisia are more Caucasoid then Arabs living in the Gulf area, you even get natural blond Arabs there.

    At the same I think many northern Europeans have very ancient Central Asian-type ancestry

    Actually the ancient Central Asians were Nords. With the expansion of the Mongols they became a Nord-Mongolid hybrid people and with Islamisation, maybe Middle Easters went there too and took their genes.

    Alans
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans

    The name Alan is an Iranian dialectical form of Aryan, a common self-designation of the Indo-Iranians.[2] Possibly related to the Massagetae, the Alans have been connected by modern historians with the Central Asian Yancai and Aorsi of Chinese and Roman sources, respectively.[6] Having migrated westwards and become dominant among the Sarmatians on the Pontic Steppe, they are mentioned by Roman sources in the 1st century AD.[1] At the time, they had settled the region north of the Black Sea and frequently raided the Parthian Empire and the Caucasian provinces of the Roman Empire.[1] In 215–250 AD, their power on the Pontic Steppe was broken by the Goths.

    The various forms of Alan – Greek: Ἀλανοί Alanoi; Chinese: 阿蘭聊 Alanliao (Pinyin) in the 2nd century,[11] 阿蘭 Alan in the 3rd century[12] and later Alanguo (阿蘭國)[13] – are derived from Iranian dialectal forms of Aryan.[2][14] This word was preserved in modern Ossetian language in form of Allon.[15][16] These and other variants of Aryan (such as Iran) were common self-designations of the Indo-Iranians, the common ancestors of the Indo-Aryans and Iranian peoples to whom the Alans belonged.
    …snip…
    The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans were tall, and blond:

    Nearly all the Alani are men of great stature and beauty; their hair is somewhat yellow, their eyes are terribly fierce.[57]

    Cumans
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumans
    CumaniaIn East Slavic languages and Polish, they are known as the Polovtsy, derived from the Slavic root *polvъ “pale; light yellow; blonde”.[20][21]:43 Polovtsy or Polovec is often said to be derived from the Old East Slavic polovŭ (половъ) “yellow; pale” by the Russians – all meaning “blond”.[21] The old Ukrainian word polovtsy (Пóловці), derived from polovo “straw” – means “blond, pale yellow”. The western Cumans, or Polovtsy, were also called Sorochinetses by the Rus’, – apparently derived from the Turkic sary chechle“yellow-haired”. A similar etymology may have been at work in the name of the Sary people, who also migrated westward ahead of the Qun.[22][full citation needed] However, according to O. Suleymenov polovtsy may come from a Slavic word for “blue-eyed”, i.e. the Serbo-Croatian plȃv (пла̑в) means “blue”,[23] but this word also means “fair, blonde” and is in fact a cognate of the above; cf. Eastern Slavic polovŭ, Russian polóvyj (поло́вый), Ukrainian polovýj (полови́й).[24] An alternative etymology of Polovtsy is also possible: the Slavic root *pȍlje “field” (cf. Russian póle), which would therefore imply that Polovtsy were “men of the field” or “men of the steppe”.

    Scythians/SacasFrom
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

    “Early physical analyses have unanimously concluded that the Scythians, even those in the east (e.g. the Pazyryk region), possessed predominantly “Europid” features, although mixed ‘Euro-mongoloid” phenotypes also occur, depending on site and period.[116]

    In artworks, the Scythians are portrayed exhibiting European traits.[117] In Histories, the 5th-century Greek historian Herodotus describes the Budini of Scythia as red-haired and grey-eyed.[117] In the 5th century BC, Greek physician Hippocrates argued that the Scythians have purron (ruddy) skin.[117][118] In the 3rd century BC, the Greek poet Callimachus described the Arismapes (Arimaspi) of Scythia as fair-haired.[117][119] The 2nd century BC Han Chinese envoy Zhang Qian described the Sai (Scythians) as having yellow (probably meaning hazel or green), and blue eyes.[117] In Natural History, the 1st century AD Roman author Pliny the Elder characterises the Seres, sometimes identified as Iranians (Scythians) or Tocharians, as red-haired and blue-eyed.[117][120] In the late 2nd century AD, the Christian theologian Clement of Alexandria says that the Scythians are fair-haired.[117][121] The 2nd century Greek philosopher Polemon includes the Scythians among the northern peoples characterised by red hair and blue-grey eyes.[117] In the late 2nd or early 3rd century AD, the Greek physician Galen declares that Sarmatians, Scythians and other northern peoples have reddish hair.[117][122] The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans, a people closely related to the Scythians, were tall, blond and light-eyed.[123] The 4th century bishop of Nyssa Gregory of Nyssa wrote that the Scythians were fair skinned and blond haired.[124] The 5th-century physician Adamantius, who often follow Polemon, describes the Scythians are fair-haired.[117][125]”

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  248. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    In Central Asia, even the most Asian looking people are so robust that the line between having Caucasoid blood and simply being robust is blurred. In comparison East Asians look effeminate and weak.
    And I thought the Arabs mostly mixed with East Africans and not West Africans? Personally I think the world would be better off with Negroids, they should all be sterilized and starved. Fuck Africa

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  249. Malla says:
    @anon

    And I thought the Arabs mostly mixed with East Africans and not West Africans

    Yes they mostly mixed with East Africans. More blacks were enslaved and taken to Arab/Turkish lands than in the Trans Atlantic slave trade. However the Arabs usually castrated male blacks and bonked the female blacks. So very few pure blacks left in Arab lands.

    Actually many Arab scholars had very racist opinions about black Negroids.
    Ibn Khaldun ,was a fourteenth-century Arab historiographer and historian. Many modern scholars consider him one of the greatest minds in historiography, sociology, economics, and demography.
    In his great book Muqadimmah , he writes
    “beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings.”

    Ibn Khaldun also wrote
    “Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated.”

    Blacks are still treated like shit in Iraq

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  250. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    It would be an interesting experiment to put Papuans and Africans together somewhere and see how they interact lol.

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  251. @KenH

    Japan + Low birth rate + low immigration = Less Populated Japan

    USA + Low birth rate + mass Mexican immigration = Mexico

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  252. @Reg Cæsar

    White Catholics, to this day, trend towards “leftism” in politics. They were, and are, strong advocates for New Dealism, the Civil Rights mov’t, and every other cause du jour. For non-white Catholics, that goes even moreso. Yes, the nativists were right.

    https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2019/08/22/the-leftist-influence-of-catholicism/

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  253. @Herbert West

    They were, and are, strong advocates for New Dealism, the Civil Rights mov’t, and every other cause du jour.

    Not for Prohibitionism and its Siamese twin, women’s suffrage. Blame the nativists for those.

    As for New Dealism, that was outrageously popular in the South and West. Irish and German Catholics had the nerve to question New Deal 2.0, i.e., our involvement in the “world” war.

    Thanks to the Calverts, Roman Catholics have been in English America since 1634. Only the Anglicans, Congregationalists, and Dutch Reformed have been here longer. (Okay, and Baptists, too, thanks to Williams.) You might as well call Quakers, Presbyterians, Methodists, and Lutherans an immigration crisis.

    Problems with Latins, Mediterraneans, and Irish have been racial, not religious. Even Protestants supported contraception bans and the Legion of Decency.

    Latin, Caribbean, and African “Romanism” is often just a veneer for paganism. The most seriously Catholic Catholics in this country have been the Germans– cf. The Wanderer. What problems have they caused?

  254. Malla says:
    @anon

    Great idea, I do not think it will end up well.

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  255. KenH says:
    @Malla

    Unfortunately there has been a lot of pressure lately on Japan & S.Korea to open up

    I’m aware of that and I thought Japan plans on allowing a record number of guest workers but again that only confers temporary status. Neither the Japanese or the S. Koreans are clamoring to become a minority in their own nations unlike the insane and drug addicted white Americans. And no doubt they’ll kick people out if they don’t behave.

    If a Japanese or S. Korean politician announced that immigration policies should be put in place to make the natives a minority he might not survive until the next day. Bill Clinton tells a white audience that they will become a minority and the proclamation is met with raucous applause.

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  256. KenH says:

    It was another woke East Asian Jessica Kwong, daughter of King Kwong, who falsely and maliciously claimed Trump was golfing and tweeting on Thanksgiving when he was actually in Afghanistan with the troops.

  257. Malla says:
    @anon

    In Central Asia, even the most Asian looking people are so robust that the line between having Caucasoid blood and simply being robust is blurred. In comparison East Asians look effeminate and weak.

    Central Asians are stronger than Indian subcontinentals, check out post 221 on this page, in its entirety. The British in India were afraid, Indian sepoys would not be able to face the Cucasoid-Mongoloid hybrid Central Asians (under the Russian Empire) whom they considered much bigger and stronger. No wonder the Mughals conquered India.

    North East Asians are more athletic than other Asians tho, including South Asians and Middle Easterners.
    https://www.unz.com/freed/u-s-supreme-over-asia-in-mathematics/?showcomments#comment-3399204

  258. Malla says:
    @KenH

    Bill Clinton tells a white audience that they will become a minority and the proclamation is met with raucous applause.

    Yeah, White people’s guilt of being White. Crazy. I suspect that the crowd, Bill Clinton was talking to, was made up of brain washed libtard snobs.

  259. Lin says:
    @Malla

    That’s why hindutwa is important to bharat. The focus is how it’s carried out; the best way is a pseudo-religious movement to ‘construct’ common national consensus.

    Let me repeat what I said here and elsewhere.
    The role of historiography:
    In China, people want unity ‘under heaven’ and there’s an ancient saying:”History is a mirror”, so historiorgraphy is an important element of governance and culture. Besides regular chronology and writing treatises on the past commissioned by the emperors, here’s an interesting 11th century treatise on governance:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zizhi_Tongjian
    In Bharat, governance is localized or ‘atomised’. As long as local caste hierarchy was observed, life went on. Ancient kings and heroes became deities and whatever history records became fairy tales and distorted ‘spiritually’ by the upper castes to justify their privilege.
    ……..
    If I were Modi, I would attempt a new version of Hinduism or ‘Hindislam’ to fuse the 2 religions together, like promoting Prophet Mohamed to the hindu pantheon.

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  260. Anon[936] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    Who cheered? Whites or Non-Whites?

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  261. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    North America belong to whomever made it arrive the land. So does south America.
    The continents was discovered and took away from locals.
    The country was build on continuous blood, sweat and tears from both the new world and the old world, from all the colors and races.
    White can claim it, just as much as the black, as the brown, as the yellow, as everyone from all the places of the world who made it set foot on the land.
    It’s not the same country it was built, it won’t be the same country it is now.
    Love it, stay; hate it, leave.
    Want make others leave? Want a fight? Then fight!

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  262. KenH says:
    @Anon

    It was his 1998 commencement address to a mostly white audience at Portland State University:
    Today, largely because of immigration, there is no majority race in Hawaii or Houston or New York City. Within five years, there will be no majority race in our largest state, California. In a little more than 50 years, there will be no majority race in the United States. No other nation in history has gone through demographic change of this magnitude in so short a time … [These immigrants] are energizing our culture and broadening our vision of the world. They are renewing our most basic values and reminding us all of what it truly means to be American.

    In 1998 American was still around 73% white and I recall that both the mainstream news and the small but growing alternative news websites reported the crowd as supermajority white.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/01/the-end-of-white-america/307208/

  263. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    I have a feeling Papuans will end up dominating Africans lol. Australoids always struck me as physically and spiritually more robust than Negroids.

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  264. Malla says:
    @Lin

    That’s why hindutwa is important to bharat. The focus is how it’s carried out; the best way is a pseudo-religious movement to ‘construct’ common national consensus.

    Very true.
    The people we have to be most thankful for recreating Hindu/Buddhist history (pre-Islamic) are the officers of the East India Company and British historians like Princep and Jones. As well as other Europeans who did research about India mostly Frenchmen and Germans like Max Muller. The Officers of the East India Company used sheer grit to study our texts to get some history out of it and it were they who categorized our texts. And before they understood Sanskrit (later on they themselves became experts in the language) they sat with Brahmins who convinced East India Company British officers that the only thing worth knowing about India was the Vedic and Puranic texts. So Buddhism and Jainism was first ignored. But excavations showed a lot of Buddhist Stupas and Buddhist sites. It is only then that they started showing interest in Buddhism and started realizing the deep Buddhist & Jain past of India, which the Brahmins had themselves destroyed centuries past.
    Later on they come across some real history. They got hold of some texts of Chinese Buddhist scholars/ travelers (Xuanzang, Faxian) as well of Greek travelers who had come to India and thus we could get a glimpse of the way of life in India. Add to that the book on Hindu society by the Persian scholar Al Beruni.
    Check out this Post about Princep
    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/time-to-stop-importing-an-immigrant-overclass/?showcomments#comment-2153421

    But then came a shady organisation in India called the Theosophical Society with shady characters like Madame Blavitsky, General Olcott. Mostly Zio elite financed, sent to India to stop Christianity, Westernism etc…It is they who came up with all this Hinduvadi nonsense. There was a British General Olcott, a freemason guy who came up with the out of India theory.
    There was a crackpot Brahmin called Dayanand Saraswati who could not accept that a lowly non brahmin people like the British could do so much progress. He woz butt hurt and he became a member of this Theosophical Society. Later he started a Hindu movement called Arya Samaj and wrote a crackpot book called ‘Satyat Prakash’ translated as ‘Light on TRUTH’ which was a basis for all this Hindu Wakanda nonsense.

    Check this out, great Indian historian Romilla Thapar, says how most Hinduvadi theories had their origin in Colonial sneaky historians like Colonel Olcott.

    Check out from 8:39 to 12:00, she mentions General Olcott.

  265. Malla says:
    @Lin

    In China, people want unity ‘under heaven’ and there’s an ancient saying:”History is a mirror”, so historiorgraphy is an important element of governance and culture. Besides regular chronology and writing treatises on the past commissioned by the emperors, here’s an interesting 11th century treatise on governance:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zizhi_Tongjian

    Thank you for this info. All nations need creation myths. Yes, it is true that Unity under heaven was very important in Chinese history. I believe that is because the original Han civilization was a smaller area in the Yellow river and had a very high culture, one of the most exquisite and high culture in the entire world. And then their neighbours wanted to be part of that high civilization and thus the Han civilization grew by absorbing neighbouring kingdom who wanted entry into such a high civilization. So it grew rarely by military conquest but by admitting neighbouring peoples to a culture. Even northern ‘barbarians’ who conquered China ended up being absorbed by the culture and thus eventually they got conquered by China itself in the long run, by superior Chinese culture. So the military conquerors themselves got conquered by culture. But as time grew on and the civilization grew gigantic in area and complexity and to keep such a huge and complex nation together ‘one under all heaven’ was very important. I would say Confucian discipline and respect for hierarchy (from the family father all the way to the Emperor and maybe to the heavens themselves) played a big role in keeping China together historically.
    Anyways India did not have a native Zizhi Tongjian. We had to wait for the Muslims for chronological history.
    As far as emperors commissioning historians to write history one would wonder if the court historians would not be under pressure to show the present emperor and dynasty under good light and bury uncomfortable facts.

    In Bharat, governance is localized or ‘atomised’. As long as local caste hierarchy was observed, life went on. Ancient kings and heroes became deities and whatever history records became fairy tales and distorted ‘spiritually’ by the upper castes to justify their privilege.

    Very true. Kings who were good to brahmins got a good legend about them. Brahmans wrote history, other than us Kayasthas, they were the only literate people, so they wrote good legends about Kings who were good for them.

    If I were Modi, I would attempt a new version of Hinduism or ‘Hindislam’ to fuse the 2 religions together, like promoting Prophet Mohamed to the hindu pantheon.

    Actually Hindustan can do that and has always done that. Hinduism wins by absorbing their enemies. But the Muslims will never accept. Hinduism even made the Buddha an avatar of Vishnu even though Buddha was against Brahmanical Hinduism.
    Modern Hinduism (Purannic Hindusiam as against the more ancient Aryan Vedic Hindusim) as we know it was born in the Ganges reason (North Central India) and is a combination of ancient Aryan culture, Indus valley religious leftovers, some Tibetan Bon stuff and some native tribal religions. Then this religion spread in all directions by absorbing the local native pagan religions of the peoples it came across in the Indian subcontinent as well as South East Asia by absorbing their Gods into the complex Hindu pantheon. The native regional God or goddess was made a manifestation of a great Hindu God or made a relation to one of the Hindu Gods (Wife, sister etc…). That is how they went on conquering other regional tribal pagan religions as well as pagan invaders from the north, all the religion demanded was the primacy of Brahmins. And every religion it fought against (Buddhism, Jainism, Islam, Christianity) changed Hinduism as it fought it’s enemy religion by absorbing some elements of the enemy religion and using those elements as weapons against the enemy religion, Hinduism fights a soft battle. It is like a amoeba that absorbs its enemy and survives all kinds of changes, only that the Brahmins have to be on TOP.

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  266. Malla says:
    @Anon

    North America belong to whomever made it arrive the land. So does south America.
    The continents was discovered and took away from locals.
    The country was build on continuous blood, sweat and tears from both the new world and the old world, from all the colors and races.
    White can claim it, just as much as the black, as the brown, as the yellow, as everyone from all the places of the world who made it set foot on the land.

    Most of Africa belong to whomever made it arrive the land. Large part of the continent was took away from locals (Bantus took it away from native pygmies & Khoi San). This part of Africa was build on continuous blood, sweat and tears from all the colors and races (blacks, Whites (colonials and farmers), Indians (dukkawals and labour from India during colonial times), Chinese going now and building up Africa). Black can claim it, just as much as the white, as the brown, as the yellow, as everyone from all the places of the world who made it set foot on the land.

  267. Malla says:
    @anon

    But the Australoids who contributed to the Indian subcontinent were not as robust.

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  268. Lin says:
    @Malla

    As far as emperors commissioning historians to write history one would wonder if the court historians would not be under pressure to show the present emperor and dynasty under good light and bury uncomfortable facts.

    ………
    Interesting point you raised.
    –The founding emperor of a dynasty(on average might last 2 to 3 centuries) usually was a capable man and even the founding emperor of the next dynasty that replaced it would acknowledge it or the latter want to draw a parallel to illustrate himself.
    –The last emperor usually was incompetent or fucked up and there’s no need for founding emperor of the new dynasty to ask the historian to give him a fail grade.
    –The issue that had caused heads to roll(once in the Manchu dynasty if I remember right)had to do with numbering of the years of the ‘reign’. Lets say the last emperor of the old dynasty called his the ‘reign of pheonix’, say from 1400 to 1420 AD. The founding emperor of the new dynasty(probably started off from a corner of the old empire)called his the ‘reign of dragon’, say from 1410 AD onward. So according to the historian commissioned by the new emperor, the last dynasty ended in the 10th year of the ‘reign of dragon’. Saying it ended in the 20th year of the ‘reign of pheonix’ would be high treason.
    –On average, Chinese historians have been quite honest.
    …………………….
    BTW, one question:
    Do you think during the ‘aryan invasion/migration’, the aryan rulers tried to placate the elite of the vanquished Dravidians by including them into the ranks of brahmins?

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  269. Lin says:
    @Lin

    Someone had mentioned here at another thread, during the ‘Spring&Autumn’, a high official or general of a certain kingdom killed his king and took over. The historian/chronologer faithfully recorded “XXX killed his king”. The usurper executed the historian and let the eldest son of the dead historian to take over the job. His son repeated his father’s statement and got himself killed too. After the other 2 younger sons did the same and got killed too, the usurper realized he killed the father&sons historians in vain.

  270. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Speaking of which, the Andaman islanders are considered Australoid, but physically they look very African. I think they are the only people who actually look like Africans despite not being African.
    Papuans and Melanesians on the other hand are blatantly Australoid.

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  271. Malla says:
    @Lin

    Thanks for all that info about Chinese history writing. Very interesting.

    The founding emperor of a dynasty(on average might last 2 to 3 centuries) usually was a capable man and even the founding emperor of the next dynasty that replaced it would acknowledge it or the latter want to draw a parallel to illustrate himself.
    –The last emperor usually was incompetent or fucked up

    Yes, even the Arab scholar Ibn Khaldun wrote about this, about how dynasty creators were capable men but with time the ruling family became soft and dumb and then the dynasty collapsed.

    The usurper executed the historian and let the eldest son of the dead historian to take over the job. His son repeated his father’s statement and got himself killed too.

    Wow, Chinese historians were really honest, beyond the call of duty.

    Do you think during the ‘aryan invasion/migration’, the aryan rulers tried to placate the elite of the vanquished Dravidians by including them into the ranks of brahmins?

    In the beginning no. But with time yes.
    The elites of the Indus Valley people were called ‘Das’ , ‘Dashyu’ but in Aryan languages Das means slave. The Indus valley civilization was called ‘mehlua’ but in North Indian languages foreigners/ outsiders/non-Hindus/ lowly barbarians are called ‘mlechha’, which most probably comes from mehlua.
    But later on with time, all the peoples and religions got mixed up. It eventually went from an Apartheid South Africa like society to a Brazil like society.

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  272. Malla says:
    @anon

    I think they are the only people who actually look like Africans despite not being African.

    Very true. They look totally African.

  273. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    @Malla

    you repeat me with Africa, and it is true for Africa, the same case at the very big picture, but why don’t you repeat this part:
    It’s not the same country it was built, it won’t be the same country it is now.
    Love it, stay; hate it, leave.
    Want make others leave? Want a fight? Then fight!

    Those who love Africa, stayed, and they are hence Africa, no matter the color and races. Those who hate Africa left and stop being African, no matter the colors. Those who disagree, fought and fighting.

    Same case with America.

    But Africa don’t have the identity issue, the immigrant issue, those who arrived Africa, if they want to stay there, they stay there very well. Africa is not planning any wall building.

    It’s USA who have the identity issue, not Africa.

    Time and reality will tell the white that they don’t own America alone.
    Don’t take it as granted.

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  274. Lin says:
    @Malla

    Some interesting facets of Chinese history:
    –(I mentioned it before)Confucius,the most influential Chinese sage,was a bastard.
    –The First Emperor who unified china was NOT of royal blood. He was the son of a concubine gifted to the father(then a prince)of the First Emperor. That women was already impregnated by that merchant who later became the prime minister and was then executed by his biological son the First emperor who later discovered his real lineage. That concubine was a nymphomaniac who had an affair(after the 1st emperor died if I remember right)with a man who did public stunt of spinning a cart wheel on his erected penis. That stud later tried to start a rebellion but was quickly crushed. That concubine later still kept her nymphomania going. Talking about storylines for a spicy TV series,hah..
    –The founding royal family of the Tang dynasty was of partly Turkish descent.
    –The founding emperor of the Ming dynasty was once a begger. Its a possibility that he named his dynasty after Mani the Zoroastrian sage

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  275. Malla says:
    @Anon

    But Africa don’t have the identity issue, the immigrant issue, those who arrived Africa, if they want to stay there, they stay there very well.

    You obviously do not know about Indians and Whites kicked out of Africa by blacks. Of Arabs in Zanzibar genocided by African blacks.

    It’s USA who have the identity issue, not Africa.

    Da identity issue is a product of Jew media and Jew academia who wanted this identity issue. The chonsenites want White people finished from this planet so that the end game of all this a Jew Raj over lowly goyim like you and me.

    Africa is not planning any wall building.

    No need to. African populations are barbaric. All they do is take over your farm with the backing of the racist government and loot you out.
    Walls are needed by civilized people to keep the barbarians out. Like that great Wall in China. The West needs Walls.

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  276. Malla says:
    @Lin

    Wow thanks, all interesting stuff.

    Its a possibility that he named his dynasty after Mani the Zoroastrian sage

    Yes I am aware that many Manicheans went to China (the other group went to Europe). But I think Mani was not a Zoroastrian or was considered a heretic by traditional Zoroastrians as his followers were all driven away from Persia. Some escaped to Europe, some to China/East Asia. May be the founder of the Ming dynasty was influenced by their followers.

  277. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Africans need to be gotten rid of. Fuck all of them. They are two-legged animals.
    The fact that the world continues to support them with aid and let them immigrate is utter insanity.
    They need to be culled.

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  278. Malla says:
    @anon

    Sorry, buddy, I have met some really good decent Africans whom I would never want culled. I have met Africans whom I would prefer as friends over most fellow Indians. But maybe the percentage of such people are smaller in their population.
    But yes, Africa needs to control its population for its own good. With coming automation and robotics, there will hardly any jobs for them.

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    , @Lin
  279. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    It seems globalist elites favor Africans as their weapon of choice. All I see is constant propaganda about how all non-Africans need to open up their countries to them and all women need to open their legs to them etc. Its gotten ridiculous and Africans themselves have become arrogant, believing they have a right to live in white and Asian countries with impunity and behave however they want.

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  280. Malla says:
    @anon

    Very true. Black Africans are used as weapons by the globalist elites, to negrify the world especially the White and East Asian nations. But according to Tex Marr’s research, the Zio elites will get rid of them too once they are used for their purpose.

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  281. Lin says:
    @Malla

    BTW, 2019 is the 200th birth anniv. of Abraham Lincoln.
    (Legal black slave trade into US was banned in 1800 but clandestinely still went on until 1860)
    Some facts:
    US civil war fact 1:Lincoln didn’t fight the civil war to free the black slaves

    ” ..My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it..”

    http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm

    US civil war fact 2:Lincoln wanted to expel black slaves to the Caribbeans and Liberia
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8319858/Abraham-Lincoln-wanted-to-deport-slaves-to-new-colonies.html

    And obviously his confederate assassin made a very very BAD mistake.
    Lincoln the white supremacist was more in line with present day ‘white nationalists’.
    Had slave trade went on till the civil war or the Confederates won, the blacks in US would’ve been in a better demographic position now. Bear in mind the slavery in the southern US would’ve ended sooner or later with or without the civil war.

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  282. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    I feel like we’re living in the end times these days. Personally I can’t imagine living in this hellish nightmare system for the rest of my life. I’d rather the planet get hit by an asteroid or have a major war break out.

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    , @Malla
  283. Lin says:
    @anon

    I’d rather the planet get hit by an asteroid or have a major war break out.

    Relax.
    There’s a number of possibilities
    –Hit by an asteroid? Chance is small. Hydrogen nukes could probably blow a 10 km cube one to pieces and to trajectories that bend around the earth; ie the earth will be saved
    –Robots could take over or humans will be cyborgized. Skin tones, facial features could be just plug&play.
    –I suggest yanks could ask their next prez to include free skin bleaching, cosmetic surgery into the coming universal health care system and spend big on ‘racial’ bio-engineering to turn those with darker shades into whites.
    ……………..
    I also predict in the not too distant futures, scientists would make sophisticated dildos with sensors that can mesh with the vaginal/clitoris nerve system. A woman with such artificial phallus could stroke it to erection and masturbate their pirate parts or entertain males with rectal needs and thus restore the old fashioned hetero relationship.

  284. Malla says:
    @anon

    I feel like we’re living in the end times these days.

    I have the same feeling too buddy.

    Personally I can’t imagine living in this hellish nightmare system for the rest of my life.

    I know how you feel. You remind me of that intelligent poster ‘Harbringer’ who had similar feelings of the blues. I felt bad for him, but we never know what the future holds. Being a truther is actually a burden. When I was a kid I thought we would all turn into civilised spaceman-gentlemen, technology will set us free. But it looks like we are going towards a horrible form of global slavery. But the globalist Zios always end up losing at the end. They may end up losing this time too. This does not seem like their first attempt to take over the world.

    have a major war break out.

    That seems very likely in the near future.

  285. Malla says:
    @Lin

    Lin,
    the US Civil War was all about destroying the Agricultural traditional aristocratic South by the Satanic elites of the North.

    Check out these posts about the US Civil War, to understand what it was all about and the destruction it caused to civilization. Why were black people kept back in the USA? The real reason. May be the great writer Douglas Reed would be of help.

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/lets-count-black-on-white-crime-in-slavery-reparations-calculation/?highlight=Douglas#comment-3292977
    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/lets-count-black-on-white-crime-in-slavery-reparations-calculation/?highlight=Douglas#comment-3292984
    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/lets-count-black-on-white-crime-in-slavery-reparations-calculation/?highlight=Douglas#comment-3292992

    some snippets from these above posts

    The first, what the black man truly wants, is ignored by all parties to the great debate. The second and third are the conflicting opinions, between white men who live among black men, about what is good for him within the limits of what is good for them. The division is in my experience not very wide, but is broadened by the parties of the fourth aspect, the political groups far from negro-populated areas who use it to set white man against white man [Liberal Whites Vs Conservative Whites?] as a means of achieving votes and power. This is the chief aspect. The past hundred years have shown that white folk in New England and Old England may be violently incited against each other and against white folk in warmer latitudes by this means, to the point of civil wars. The American Civil War was the first of these.
    …snip…
    The transference of power to a newly-arrived minority (Ashkenazi Jews) is, however, possible if the original stock (WASPs) can be kept fairly equally divided by the wedge of some exterior issue. For this purpose the negroes of the South continue to be used.
    Malla: Comments in italics are mine and not of Mr. Reed.

    The close resemblance between the torture of the South in the years after 1865 and that of Europe in those after 1945 proved, to me, the existence of a permanent revolutionary organization, trained to intervene at such junctures in human affairs and give them a satanic twist.

    The clamour from outside paid little heed to people who were actually worse off than the negroes, namely, the original inhabitants, the Red Indians
    …snip…
    The surviving American Indians are too few for the ‘corrupt politicians’ elsewhere to bother with.

    Stevens pointed the way: ‘Hang the leaders, crush the South, arm the negroes, confiscate the land.’ He wanted chaos in the negro-populated area as an essential step towards revolution in the North; the same idea was being taught to American Communists (as an apostate once testified) at the Lenin Institute in Moscow in 1930, and is the ruling aim of American Communists in 1951.

    These carpet-baggers offered the negroes the white man’s lands, womenfolk and money, and incited them to take those.

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