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In his State of the Union address, Donald Trump warned grimly of “rivals like China and Russia that challenge our interests, our economy, and our values.” In response, he demanded that Congress give even more money to “our great military” and fund the growth and modernization of the U.S. nuclear arsenal, making it “so strong and so powerful that it will deter any acts of aggression by any other nation or anyone else.” And yet, in a near biblical performance in his first year in office, President Trump inadvertently rolled out a love-thy-enemy set of policies that only enhanced the roles of both of those challengers, favors never imagined by the Robert Mueller Russia investigation.

It’s hardly surprising, then, that last October in Beijing in his speech to the 19th congress of the Communist Party, Chinese President Xi Jinping displayed the sort of confidence that befits a true rising power on planet Earth. With remarkable chutzpah, he anointed his country the leading global force on contemporary political, economic, and environmental issues by declaring, “It is time for us to take center stage in the world and to make a greater contribution to humankind.” With the unintended help of Donald Trump, he could indeed make it so.

Two months later in Washington, President Trump launched his National Security Strategy (NSS), an uninspired hodgepodge lacking in either vision or clarity. It did, however, return the U.S. to the Cold War era by identifying China and Russia as the two main challengers to its power, influence, and interests, though offering no serious thoughts about what to do on the subject (except dump more money into the Pentagon budget and the American nuclear arsenal).

In reality, many of Trump’s actions, statements, and tweets in the months before the release of that document provided Beijing and Moscow with further opportunities to extend their influence and power.

On the eve of the anniversary of Trump’s first year in office, for instance, a Gallup survey of 134 countries showed a startling drop — from 48% under Barack Obama to 30% under Trump — in global approval of Washington’s role in the world. For a president who values records, that was an achievement: the worst figure since Gallup started recording them in 2007. China, on the other hand, surged to 31% and Russia to 27%. And that was before President Trump referred to various unnamed African nations as “shithole countries.”

Here, then, is a list of favors that Donald Trump has done for America’s latest challengers and how they have reacted on what, after almost two decades of a sole superpower global order, is once again a planet with more than one world power.

Ditching the TPP

On his first day in the Oval Office, as he had promised in his election campaign, Trump abandoned the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal. Its goal had been to tie 12 Pacific countries — Canada to Chile, Australia to Japan — into a complex web of trade rules that would cover approximately 40% of the global economy. Among them, tariffs would be lowered and rules established for resolving trade disputes, the granting of patents, and the protection of intellectual property. One obvious Asian power, however, wasn’t included because the TPP was meant, above all, to limit China’s future economic clout in the region by permanently linking the United States to East Asia. The pact was, in other words, meant to be an economic bulwark against a rising China.

President Obama had worked on the agreement for almost eight years, with House Speaker Paul Ryan and other congressional Republicans granting him fast-track authority to negotiate it. Still, he left office without submitting it for approval to Congress.

Trump’s day-one act was, in fact, a triumph for China. As Michael Froman, the trade representative who negotiated the pact, put it, “After all this talk about being tough on China, for [Trump’s] first action to basically hand the keys to China and say we’re withdrawing from our leadership position in this region is geo-strategically damaging.” Trump argued that he was protecting American workers against competition from low-wage countries like Vietnam and Malaysia which were included in the deal. But in so doing, he ignored the outstanding advantage of becoming part of a Pacific free-trade zone that excluded China, while offering the U.S. and Japan, which generate the globe’s first and third highest gross domestic products, the clout that goes with such a zone.

Washington’s Climate Change Leadership Abandoned

By pulling out of the 2015 Paris climate accord in June 2017, President Trump created another global leadership vacuum — soon to be filled both by French President Emmanuel Macron and Chinese President Xi. In December 2017, on the second anniversary of the Paris climate accord and in coordination with the United Nations and the World Bank, Macron chaired a One Planet summit of more than 50 heads of state and government, as well as three mega-rich individual sponsors — Bill Gates, Michael Bloomberg, and Richard Branson — and assumed the leadership role ceded by Trump and his administration of climate-change deniers.

In opposition to Trump, eight American states, all invested in speeding up the use of electric vehicles, remained committed to the Paris Agreement. So, too, did a private-sector coalition called America’s Pledge, which promised to honor the climate goals set in 2015. According to former New York mayor Bloomberg, that pledge group “now represents half of the U.S. economy.” In this way, Trump ceded leadership on what may be the single most crucial long-term issue for humanity to the French president and China’s Xi.

At the meeting, Macron, the 39-year-old former investment banker, hailed the progress made so far and insisted that it was possible to create alternatives to a fossil-fuel driven global economy by expediting the steps already taken even without the United States. He then proceeded to take a jab at the American president by awarding 18 climate scientists — most of them U.S.-based — multimillion-euro grants to move to France for the rest of Trump’s term; that is, to a country that valued their work.

After Empire by Dilip Hiro Four weeks later, the French president and his wife Brigitte flew to Beijing where they were effusively welcomed by Xi and his wife, Peng Liyuan. The Chinese president recalled that France had been the first Western power to establish diplomatic relations with the People’s Republic of China and that his country now stood ready to work closely with France to enhance cooperation not just on climate change but on China’s expansive almost-trillion-dollar One Belt One Road initiative, an infrastructure and transportation project meant to link the vast Eurasian landmass in a great economic web whose heart would lie in Beijing. (These days, the only trillion-dollar “initiatives” out of Washington involve building up its national security state, the military, and the nuclear arsenal further.) This was the sort of global project that once would have been a natural for the U.S. No longer. Macron reacted enthusiastically, adding that “France would like to take an active part in the Belt and Road Initiative” since “the new roads cannot only go one way.”

So from climate change to global economic integration, the U.S. was being left out in the cold. The way was now open for China — which as early as September 2013 had begun taking groundbreaking action to clean its highly polluted air, in part by cutting the country’s massive industrial use of coal — as it pursued a global leadership role being ceded to it by the Trump administration.

China’s One Belt One Road Initiative

By the time President Xi formally launched the One Belt One Road initiative (OBOR) in September 2013 along the centuries-old Silk Road that once connected Europe to China, the cargo train service that linked Yiwu (a center for more than 70,000 wholesale suppliers and manufacturers southeast of Shanghai) to European destinations was already a year old. Its first test run to Duisburg, Germany, had taken place four years earlier. Traveling through Kazakhstan, Russia, Belarus, Poland, Germany, Belgium, France, and Spain, those freight trains took 17 days to cover about 7,700 miles, cutting in half the cost of shipping by sea (which took twice as long) and by nine-tenths the cost of airfreight (which took just three days). As the new initiative develops, it is expected that, by 2020, more than 7.5 million containers will leave cities like Yiwu for European destinations.

In short, when it comes to the economic future, Washington is losing out to Beijing. In the future, according to Chinese plans, OBOR projects will link China, Southeast Asia, South Asia, Central and Western Asia, parts of the Middle East and East Africa, and Central and Eastern Europe. It will involve the construction of oil and natural gas pipelines, highways, rail lines, deep-water ports, and power plants, among other things. Financing will significantly come from Chinese banks, joint-venture funds, and — another major Chinese initiative — the Asian International Investment Bank.

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen encapsulated a widely held view when he commented that “other countries have lots of ideas but no money, but with China when it comes up with an idea, it also comes up with the money.”

Last May, addressing a gathering of nearly 70 national leaders and heads of international organizations in Beijing, President Xi pledged $113 billion in extra funding for the initiative and urged countries across the globe to join hands with him on the project. “We have no intention to form a small group detrimental to stability,” Xi said. “What we hope to create is a big family of harmonious coexistence.” Though invited to that assembly, the United States and India stayed away. U.S. Defense Secretary James Mattis caught the spirit of the American moment when he said, “In a globalized world there are many belts and roads, and no one nation should put itself in a position of dictating ‘One Belt, One Road.’” But these days, the U.S. is offering neither belts nor roads to anyone.

According to The Economist, 86% of OBOR projects already underway use Chinese contractors, which allows China to employ the excess capacity it built up in steel and cement during its rapid industrialization phase. Beijing has, for instance, committed $46 billion to a China-Pakistan Economic Corridor that will involve upgrades to pipelines and highways linking western China to Pakistan’s deep-water port of Gwadar on the Arabian Sea. Gwadar is less than 400 miles from the Strait of Hormuz, a crucial passageway for oil tankers. That means crude oil sent from Persian Gulf ports to China will soon begin arriving on Chinese soil by pipeline after a drastically curtailed sea journey, resulting in steep savings in time and expense.

Beijing’s drive to have a footprint abroad and extend the OBOR concept beyond Eurasia, particularly to Africa, has been impressive. Between 1976 and 2016, for instance, China built five major railway lines in Africa, deploying 50,000 Chinese workers to complete the 1,150-mile Tanzania-Zambia Railway. Eight more rail projects are now underway.

At the recent World Economic Forum in Davos, Chinese officials even played up a potential OBOR project linked to a climate-change-influenced future — a “Polar Silk Road” that, according to the New York Times, “would link China to Europe and the Atlantic via a shipping route past the melting Arctic ice cap.” In this context, Donald Trump’s America First policies should be considered a truly “big league” bow to the rise of China.

Meanwhile, in the Middle East…

What about that other great power highlighted in the Trump National Security Strategy’s return to the Cold War? Russia, a petro-state with an economy the size of Italy’s, is no longer exactly the “evil empire” of the Soviet era. Still, Russian President Vladimir Putin has three strong cards in his hand: a rehabilitated, enlarged military backed by a robust defense industry; the second highest oil output in the world at a time when oil prices are climbing; and the all-purpose Rosatom State Atomic Energy Corporation which offers the nuclear industry’s entire range of products and services, and runs all of Russia’s 360 civilian and military nuclear facilities. Those assets are capped by Putin’s 18 years in high office, which have enabled him to see the fruition of his policies in a way no American president could.

By using Russian forces to intervene in the Syrian civil war in September 2015, Putin helped turn the tide in favor of Syria’s autocratic president, Bashar al-Assad. His alliance with Assad had three dimensions: Syria’s historic links to the Soviet Union in the Cold War era; the Kremlin’s desire to have a naval facility in the Mediterranean after the loss of such a port in Libya when Muammar Gaddafi fell in 2011; and his doctrine that any group that takes up arms against an internationally recognized government is a terrorist organization.

Having acquired a key, if brutal, role in the Syrian civil war, Putin proceeded to coopt not only Iran, a traditional ally of Syria, but also Turkey, a NATO member initially opposed to the Assad regime. Later, when Putin made a congratulatory call to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan for aborting a July 2016 military coup attempt against his government, Erdogan agreed to join him in working toward a peace deal in the Syrian civil war.

Today, while the Trump administration’s input in the Syrian crisis diminishes, the Kremlin’s influence has become yet more dominant. Washington, which used its air power and 2,000 troops on the ground to support a Kurdish-led force of fighters in Syria against the militants of the Islamic State, now finds itself dangerously at odds with Ankara. An ardent Turkish nationalist, Erdogan considers irredentist, ethnic Kurds “terrorists” and recently sent his planes and tanks against some of them in northern Syria. Washington has been largely reduced to reacting to the Kremlin’s moves in the region.

A confident Putin has been busy wooing other U.S. allies in the region. In 2016, to shore up the price of a barrel of oil, which had dropped to a dismal $30, Saudi Arabia pressed other Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) members to cut overall output. For such a strategy to succeed, however, non-OPEC oil producers needed to cooperate. Being the largest among them, Russia was the key player and Putin, as eager as the Saudis to see prices rise, agreed. A year later, when those reductions were set to expire, Riyadh argued for their extension to December 2018. Again, Putin backed the move. As a result, prices are now in the $60 range.

Unsurprisingly, King Salman became the first reigning Saudi monarch to visit Moscow last October. While there, he signed 15 cooperation agreements covering oil, military affairs (including a $3 billion arms deal involving, among other things, the purchase of Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missiles), and even space exploration. By doing so, the Saudi monarch broke the monopoly the U.S. (and other western nations) had on supplying advanced weaponry to the kingdom. Significantly, while insisting that any peace settlement in Syria should maintain that country’s territorial integrity, he did not repeat his government’s call for Assad to step down.

Before establishing a rapport with the Saudi monarch, Putin had also managed to attract the interest of Egypt, another long-standing ally of Washington and the recipient of more than a billion dollars in U.S. military aid annually since 1987. In October 2016, more than 500 Russian and Egyptian paratroopers even took part in joint counterterrorism exercises in the desert near Alexandria.

The flirtation between the two countries, which started in 2014 when General Abdel Fattah al Sisi visited the Kremlin, gained momentum during Sisi’s second trip to Moscow six months later after being elected president. During the Trump presidency, it has only grown stronger. In 2017, Rosatom agreed to build Egypt’s first nuclear power plant in El Dabaa, 80 miles northwest of Cairo, which is scheduled to cost $21 billion. Eighty-five percent of that will be provided to the cash-strapped Egyptians by Rosatom, which can afford it since its total orders last year, domestic and foreign, amounted to $300 billion.

And so it goes. Though powerful and wealthy, the United States looks ever more alone. Whether in its fruitless wars, in its remarkable focus on military power, in its dismantling of the State Department, in its urge to build walls of every kind and shut so many people out, in the president’s insulting tweets, comments, and phone calls, even in the “Trump slump” in tourism, American isolationism — that well-worn phrase — is acquiring new meaning. While chanting his mantra of “America First,” Donald Trump has so far followed policies that have only eased the way for the Chinese dragon to roar past Uncle Sam, with the Russian bear not far behind.

Dilip Hiro, a TomDispatch regular, is the author of After Empire: The Birth of a Multipolar World. His most recent (and 36th) book is The Age of Aspiration: Power, Wealth, and Conflict in Globalizing India.

(Republished from TomDispatch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Peacen1k says:

    Still don’t understand the reason for Unz.com publishing establishment propaganda from TomDispatch. Arguing with these people is pointless and debunking this stuff for the umpteenth time is boring. Yawn.

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    • Replies: @Hmmm
    Agree.

    But let's rant a little bit. Let's take one example from the article:
    America... "in its urge to build walls of every kind and shut so many people out"

    I am not American, but I do know that the US has the highest immigration rate in the world (when combining legal and illegal immigration). But that understates what is going on. US is undertaking one of the most rapid, and comprehensive demographic transformations the world has never seen. It is literally replacing its native population with such viciousness and carelessness that it completely escapes any rational analysis.

    And yet the people still get:
    "in its urge to build walls of every kind and shut so many people out"

    How do these people square the circles in their heads all the time? I mean, I know some of them are dollar store propagandists. But not all of them. Some of them actually believe. Scary.
    , @Biff

    establishment propaganda from TomDispatch.
     
    Oxymorons will get you no where.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Where do you find the "establishment propaganda" in this? Are you imagining that an establishment consisting of traditional major party leaders and the big supporters they can call on has got an Indian or Indian American to do a job on Trump (pretending that the way wasn't paved for him by the Democrats and Republicans he defeated)?
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  2. TPP? Globalist garbage putting corporations in charge of governance. Good riddance to it!

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  3. Norumbega says:

    “China’s expansive almost-trillion-dollar One Belt One Road initiative, an infrastructure and transportation project meant to link the vast Eurasian landmass in a great economic web whose heart would lie in Beijing. (These days, the only trillion-dollar “initiatives” out of Washington involve building up its national security state, the military, and the nuclear arsenal further.) This was the sort of global project that once would have been a natural for the U.S. No longer.” (Italics added.)

    When? Perhaps FDR’s post-war intention to cooperatively develop the whole world, as described by his son, qualifies here, though the vision was never realized. The Marshall Plan did rebuild Europe, though its actual scale was on the order of 1/10 or less the Belt and Road Initiative in adjusted dollars. Kennedy’s Alliance for Progress might also be invoked for comparison, though again dwarfed by BRI, and with little to show for it. But the fact is, even these episodes are exceptional. The italicized words above seem quite delusional when one considers the post Bretton Woods regime debt bondage and IMF conditionalities in the interests of Wall Street/City of London.

    The irony is that cooperation with China, toward which Trump (though opposed by the neocons within the Trump Administration) seems more favorably inclined than his predecessors, could be a key ingredient for financing Trump’s own infrastructure promises, not to mention potential participation by US companies in BRI projects abroad. The $253 billion in memorandums of understanding signed during Trump’s China visit in November (including $83.7 for West Virginia alone) are a promising beginning in this regard. Such beneficial cooperation in no way contradicts “America First” and actually offers a way forward, and away from the brink of confrontation between nuclear superpowers that the geopolitical view promotes as inevitable.

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    The Marshall Plan did not rebuild Europe.
    I can vaguely remember 1948, the Netherlands had repaired most of the war damage.
    My father had been busy doing that from the liberation.
    I do remember when he took me to a Bailey bridge, as he said, that had replaced the old bridge, as said, 'in de lucht laten vliegen', by the Germans.
    In de lucht laten vliegen, literally 'blown into the sky'.
    I looked up, and said 'I do not see anything'.
    Anyhow, the Bailey bridge was replaced under my father's supervision by a two lane concrete bridge.

    Marshall aid was given to prevent S and E European countrie from becoming communist.
    During the 1948 Italian election a large part of the USA fleet was anchored off the Italian coast, tanks had been landed already under a pretext.

    In Germany, Beetles were running off the production lines,as were pre war model Mercedeses, the Beetles already in 1945, I think.
    The British started production, contrary to the Morgenthau Plan, of killing ten million Germans through hunger, by removing all industry.
    As Churchill said to FDR 'I'm not going to be chained to a corpse'.

    At present the reverse, Brexit, Merkel has no intention to be chained to a corpse', whatever the Brussel bureaucrats want.
    , @MEFOBILLS
    "China" could be a key ingredient for financing Trump’s own infrastructure promises,

    A sovereign issuer of currency does not need to borrow foreign capital. If your country produces steel, electricity, all the minerals needed, and has an educated workforce, then all the ingredients are present. A sovereign can then issue money to do the projects.

    While bank corporations do run the U.S. it is only by way of fraud. During wartime, monetary fraud is shoved aside. For example, U.S. spent debt free using line item budget authority during WW2. This line item money funneled through reconstruction finance corporation, to then build out aviation, synthetic rubber, and aluminum smelting. The companies created were sold to American's for $1.

    It is preposterous to think the U.S. needs Chinese money.

    China has about five large state banks, and these banks emit Yuans in the form of loans. These state entities also forgive said loans, effectively making their Yuan bank credit debt free. China has issued trillions of Yuans this way.

    So, this notion of importing formerly debt free issued Yuans to then produce in America is ignorant in the extreme.

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  4. Hmmm says:
    @Peacen1k
    Still don't understand the reason for Unz.com publishing establishment propaganda from TomDispatch. Arguing with these people is pointless and debunking this stuff for the umpteenth time is boring. Yawn.

    Agree.

    But let’s rant a little bit. Let’s take one example from the article:
    America… “in its urge to build walls of every kind and shut so many people out”

    I am not American, but I do know that the US has the highest immigration rate in the world (when combining legal and illegal immigration). But that understates what is going on. US is undertaking one of the most rapid, and comprehensive demographic transformations the world has never seen. It is literally replacing its native population with such viciousness and carelessness that it completely escapes any rational analysis.

    And yet the people still get:
    “in its urge to build walls of every kind and shut so many people out”

    How do these people square the circles in their heads all the time? I mean, I know some of them are dollar store propagandists. But not all of them. Some of them actually believe. Scary.

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    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    Look at his name. Dilip Hiro. Wonder no longer about why he is on the Immivasion Bandwagon.
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  5. STFU, Dilip. You and every other commie at TD can kiss my ass.

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    Low effort boomerpost 0/10
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  6. Biff says:
    @Peacen1k
    Still don't understand the reason for Unz.com publishing establishment propaganda from TomDispatch. Arguing with these people is pointless and debunking this stuff for the umpteenth time is boring. Yawn.

    establishment propaganda from TomDispatch.

    Oxymorons will get you no where.

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  7. @Peacen1k
    Still don't understand the reason for Unz.com publishing establishment propaganda from TomDispatch. Arguing with these people is pointless and debunking this stuff for the umpteenth time is boring. Yawn.

    Where do you find the “establishment propaganda” in this? Are you imagining that an establishment consisting of traditional major party leaders and the big supporters they can call on has got an Indian or Indian American to do a job on Trump (pretending that the way wasn’t paved for him by the Democrats and Republicans he defeated)?

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  8. Everybody can criticize Trump for something, but I’m impressed that the author choose to not only start with the TPP but also to provide such a nuanced justification for it (because apparently we’ll lose jobs either way, but TPP would have let us lose them to everybody BUT China. Nice).

    Following up with fawning over Macron was just the icing on the cake. I’m sure there was more to the article, but I’m sure the author will appreciate the logic of me making him stronger and more powerful by not reading the rest of it.

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  9. Miro23 says:

    Beijing’s drive to have a footprint abroad and extend the OBOR concept beyond Eurasia, particularly to Africa, has been impressive. Between 1976 and 2016, for instance, China built five major railway lines in Africa, deploying 50,000 Chinese workers to complete the 1,150-mile Tanzania-Zambia Railway. Eight more rail projects are now underway.

    This has to be interesting. In the 19th Century it was the world’s dominant industrial producer, Great Britain, that was building infrastructure around the world to enable Imperial trade.

    In the 21st Century it’s the world’s dominant industrial producer , China, that is building infrastructure around the world to enable its (Imperial?) trade. China lacks the equivalent military power of the 19th Century British, but like the British it mostly wasn’t necessary. The British Empire grew out of trading posts and local trade agreements, joint projects etc.

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    China lacks the equivalent military power of the 19th Century British, but like the British it mostly wasn’t necessary. The British Empire grew out of trading posts and local trade agreements, joint projects etc.
     
    I suppose the concern is that as the British global military dominion grew out of the need to protect far flung imperial possessions and profits, so the equivalent will come with the Chinese.

    Of course, the kind of military confrontation and containment policies advocated by some China hawks around the US regime will only make Chinese militarisation a certainty, and accelerate it dramatically.
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  10. Already in the thirties many in GB understood that GB could no longer afford its empire.
    Never anywhere saw a cost benefit analysis, cost, at the time, of Brittannia rules the waves, against benefits from colonial possessions, in particular India.
    Lawrence R. Pratt, ‘East of Malta, West of Suez’, London, 1975

    Never saw so clearly explained the British dilemma, they could not afford to control at the same time the Mediterranean, and the Far East.
    There was much talk about the bastion Singapore, so when it fell the British were shocked.
    They were also shocked when the battle ships Repulse and Prince of Wales were sunk by aircraft flown by little yellow men.
    As was the British navy, until then it was not believed that aircraft were a threat to battle ships.

    I wonder if the USA today is in the same position as the British inn the thirties.
    If the USA is, I hope it does not lead to desperate measures, as the British guarantees that unleashed WWII.

    Maybe the present USA government does have a cost benefit analysis, and concluded that the USA empire costs more than the benefits.

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    • Replies: @Miro23

    Maybe the present USA government does have a cost benefit analysis, and concluded that the USA empire costs more than the benefits.
     
    British /American Imperial parallels are interesting, and it's true the British elite did pull back from Empire because the cost/benefit calculation changed after WWI - the cost became an impossible burden.

    The US is different, because the US elite isn't concerned about the national cost or the burden placed on the public. They've already proved this, by putting the public something like $ 6 Trillion in debt to pay for Middle East wars, with themselves and their MSM still pushing for more (Syria, Iran).

    US policy is dictated to Congress (and the administration) by an elite that is concerned with (in order of probable importance) 1) The Likud view of Israel's security - military and economic 2) continued MIC billion dollar special funding 3) Finance, Outsourcers & Globalists for the free flow of capital, goods and cheap labour.

    The aptly described "Grotesque" Hillary Clinton brought all this together as the Democratic candidate.
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  11. @Norumbega
    "China’s expansive almost-trillion-dollar One Belt One Road initiative, an infrastructure and transportation project meant to link the vast Eurasian landmass in a great economic web whose heart would lie in Beijing. (These days, the only trillion-dollar “initiatives” out of Washington involve building up its national security state, the military, and the nuclear arsenal further.) This was the sort of global project that once would have been a natural for the U.S. No longer." (Italics added.)

    When? Perhaps FDR's post-war intention to cooperatively develop the whole world, as described by his son, qualifies here, though the vision was never realized. The Marshall Plan did rebuild Europe, though its actual scale was on the order of 1/10 or less the Belt and Road Initiative in adjusted dollars. Kennedy's Alliance for Progress might also be invoked for comparison, though again dwarfed by BRI, and with little to show for it. But the fact is, even these episodes are exceptional. The italicized words above seem quite delusional when one considers the post Bretton Woods regime debt bondage and IMF conditionalities in the interests of Wall Street/City of London.

    The irony is that cooperation with China, toward which Trump (though opposed by the neocons within the Trump Administration) seems more favorably inclined than his predecessors, could be a key ingredient for financing Trump's own infrastructure promises, not to mention potential participation by US companies in BRI projects abroad. The $253 billion in memorandums of understanding signed during Trump's China visit in November (including $83.7 for West Virginia alone) are a promising beginning in this regard. Such beneficial cooperation in no way contradicts "America First" and actually offers a way forward, and away from the brink of confrontation between nuclear superpowers that the geopolitical view promotes as inevitable.

    The Marshall Plan did not rebuild Europe.
    I can vaguely remember 1948, the Netherlands had repaired most of the war damage.
    My father had been busy doing that from the liberation.
    I do remember when he took me to a Bailey bridge, as he said, that had replaced the old bridge, as said, ‘in de lucht laten vliegen’, by the Germans.
    In de lucht laten vliegen, literally ‘blown into the sky’.
    I looked up, and said ‘I do not see anything’.
    Anyhow, the Bailey bridge was replaced under my father’s supervision by a two lane concrete bridge.

    Marshall aid was given to prevent S and E European countrie from becoming communist.
    During the 1948 Italian election a large part of the USA fleet was anchored off the Italian coast, tanks had been landed already under a pretext.

    In Germany, Beetles were running off the production lines,as were pre war model Mercedeses, the Beetles already in 1945, I think.
    The British started production, contrary to the Morgenthau Plan, of killing ten million Germans through hunger, by removing all industry.
    As Churchill said to FDR ‘I’m not going to be chained to a corpse’.

    At present the reverse, Brexit, Merkel has no intention to be chained to a corpse’, whatever the Brussel bureaucrats want.

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    The Marshall Plan did not rebuild Europe.
     
    True. While I can't claim much expertise on that specific matter, the idea that most Americans seem to have been fed that it was some sort of mission of goodness and light is absurd as is the rest of the wartime propaganda which now poses as history.

    I suspect the plan was another way of scalping the dumb American goy working and middle classes to enrich the international bankster ones under Messianic pretenses.

    This is especially true in light of the fact that the USSR, the Zionists, and the banksters were the big winners of WW2 as well as the post war period.

    , @jacques sheete
    Jyles, here's a quote and a link to a very good antidote to the myth that the Marshall Plan was intended to "save" Europe. It was a shakedown of the middle and working classes by the economic "elite" as usual.

    It's short and to the point.



    The actual legacy of the Marshall Plan was a vast expansion of government at home, the beginnings of the Cold War rhetoric that would sustain the welfare-warfare state for 40 years, a permanent global troop presence, and an entire business class on the take from Washington. It also created a belief on the part of the ruling elite in D.C. that it could trick the public into backing anything, including the idea that government and its connected interest groups should run the world at taxpayer expense.


    Tucker, Jeffrey A. "The Marshall Plan Myth." The Free Market 15, no. 9 (September 1997).

    https://mises.org/library/marshall-plan-myth
     
    , @Norumbega
    Thanks for the corrections and clarifications. Of course, my major point was that the things I could think of that might begin to compare with the current Chinese global development initiative are not in the same league, and that even these are not typical. (Contrary to Hiro, who had suggested that the Chinese initiative was the sort of thing the US had led pre-Trump.) Your corrections suggest Hiro was even more wrong than I thought.
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  12. Randal says:

    Good to see Unz publishing some globalist, interventionist nonsense as well, for diversity, though it’s hardly as though there’s a shortage of this stuff in the mainstream media. I suppose that’s the problem with publishing leftist supposedly dissident stuff like TomDispatch – leftists are inherently globalist and interventionist and so can be relied upon to ultimately subvert and let down any resistance to those trends.

    Dilip Hiro’s piece is quite inspiring though, and certainly renews my faith in my (non-voting, obviously) support for Trump in 2016. It’s notably simplistic to the point of being dishonest in parts, however. For instance:

    [Putin's] alliance with Assad had three dimensions: Syria’s historic links to the Soviet Union in the Cold War era; the Kremlin’s desire to have a naval facility in the Mediterranean after the loss of such a port in Libya when Muammar Gaddafi fell in 2011; and his doctrine that any group that takes up arms against an internationally recognized government is a terrorist organization.

    The first two points are legitimate, albeit their relative importance can be questioned. The third as stated is absurd and clearly selectively propagandist in intent.

    No mention of the likely real drivers of Russian intervention – concern to prevent another victory for islamist jihadism that would likely threaten Russia’s own muslim areas with further disorder, and concern to resist the US sphere’s advance and its “regime changing” of yet another country.

    The pointed omission of any reference to these clear motivations calls into question Hiro’s competence as an analyst of international affairs, and even his personal honesty.

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    No mention of the likely real drivers of Russian intervention
     
    American pundits who pretend to know about outside world usually struggle mightily with the issue of causality. In their opinion the wind blows because trees are moving.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "The pointed omission of any reference to these clear motivations calls into question Hiro’s competence as an analyst of international affairs, and even his personal honesty."

    My sentiments exactly. What some editors view as valid in the writings of the "dissident left" is usually the use by leftists of certain components from their list of ideas that have been expressed by those who oppose their agenda, to get a reader to swallow items of the left's agenda.

    Hiro, and others at TD seem to imagine that they have managed to get the reader to nod along with them as they read his own words back to him, while they lead him to a conclusion that only a diseased mind could accept.

    It's foolish to accept any leftist as an ally. Leftists can never be true allies because they are, in the end, leftists.
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  13. Trump’s campaign promise was to get along with Putin. Russia is now recovering from Communism and rediscovering its historic Christianity and anti-progressive values. Trump was forced to abandon his initial policy by the subversions of the neoconservative cabal. Every Christian must fight for détente with Russia and to block CIA and NATO subversions of Putin.

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  14. While the Trumpster is an idiot, so are ideas such as this.:

    But in so doing, he ignored the outstanding advantage of becoming part of a Pacific free-trade zone that excluded China…

    There is so much wrong with such a dippy idea, that a book could be written about it. The idea of excluding China isn’t even good in a short term economic sense or in any political sense beyond maybe some sappy nationalistic rhetoric.

    What part of “free” trade doesn’t the author understand? Yeah, I know that there never has been anything approaching free trade, but flagrant promotion of economic wars is about as worthless an idea as it gets. Same for sanctions against Iran and Russia for instance.

    What part of economic warfare is so hard to understand? Who benefits?

    Aaaaaarrrggghhh!

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  15. @jilles dykstra
    The Marshall Plan did not rebuild Europe.
    I can vaguely remember 1948, the Netherlands had repaired most of the war damage.
    My father had been busy doing that from the liberation.
    I do remember when he took me to a Bailey bridge, as he said, that had replaced the old bridge, as said, 'in de lucht laten vliegen', by the Germans.
    In de lucht laten vliegen, literally 'blown into the sky'.
    I looked up, and said 'I do not see anything'.
    Anyhow, the Bailey bridge was replaced under my father's supervision by a two lane concrete bridge.

    Marshall aid was given to prevent S and E European countrie from becoming communist.
    During the 1948 Italian election a large part of the USA fleet was anchored off the Italian coast, tanks had been landed already under a pretext.

    In Germany, Beetles were running off the production lines,as were pre war model Mercedeses, the Beetles already in 1945, I think.
    The British started production, contrary to the Morgenthau Plan, of killing ten million Germans through hunger, by removing all industry.
    As Churchill said to FDR 'I'm not going to be chained to a corpse'.

    At present the reverse, Brexit, Merkel has no intention to be chained to a corpse', whatever the Brussel bureaucrats want.

    The Marshall Plan did not rebuild Europe.

    True. While I can’t claim much expertise on that specific matter, the idea that most Americans seem to have been fed that it was some sort of mission of goodness and light is absurd as is the rest of the wartime propaganda which now poses as history.

    I suspect the plan was another way of scalping the dumb American goy working and middle classes to enrich the international bankster ones under Messianic pretenses.

    This is especially true in light of the fact that the USSR, the Zionists, and the banksters were the big winners of WW2 as well as the post war period.

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  16. Renoman says:

    It’s sad that politics has dropped to the lesser of 2 evils but it has, everyone who wants 50 asks for a hundred, the super rich are raping everyone and the only man who has the guts to call them out is taking shit from all angles. He ain’t perfect but he’s miles ahead of his competition.

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  17. Randal says:
    @Miro23

    Beijing’s drive to have a footprint abroad and extend the OBOR concept beyond Eurasia, particularly to Africa, has been impressive. Between 1976 and 2016, for instance, China built five major railway lines in Africa, deploying 50,000 Chinese workers to complete the 1,150-mile Tanzania-Zambia Railway. Eight more rail projects are now underway.
     
    This has to be interesting. In the 19th Century it was the world's dominant industrial producer, Great Britain, that was building infrastructure around the world to enable Imperial trade.

    In the 21st Century it's the world's dominant industrial producer , China, that is building infrastructure around the world to enable its (Imperial?) trade. China lacks the equivalent military power of the 19th Century British, but like the British it mostly wasn't necessary. The British Empire grew out of trading posts and local trade agreements, joint projects etc.

    China lacks the equivalent military power of the 19th Century British, but like the British it mostly wasn’t necessary. The British Empire grew out of trading posts and local trade agreements, joint projects etc.

    I suppose the concern is that as the British global military dominion grew out of the need to protect far flung imperial possessions and profits, so the equivalent will come with the Chinese.

    Of course, the kind of military confrontation and containment policies advocated by some China hawks around the US regime will only make Chinese militarisation a certainty, and accelerate it dramatically.

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  18. A meandering and largely confused piece which, as it is a tradition in the US, completely lacks a sense of scale and proportion. Per Arctic Road, the author obviously doesn’t understand a mechanics of it as well as China’s recent White Book precisely on this issue–a tacit admission that China lacks power and resources for now (if ever) to face off US Navy in Indian Ocean, while in the North she will continue to be dependent on both Russia’s massive icebreaker fleet and Navy. But then there is a US-China plan on LNG. At this point, IIRC, China has only one new conventional ice-breaker being built and this one is a Finnish design.

    According to The Economist, 86% of OBOR projects already underway use Chinese contractors, which allows China to employ the excess capacity it built up in steel and cement during its rapid industrialization phase.

    Well, that is the whole trick of OBOR–it is hardly localized with Chinese primarily taking it upon themselves in building it, often to a huge dissatisfaction of locals who are relegated to the status of observers.

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  19. @Randal
    Good to see Unz publishing some globalist, interventionist nonsense as well, for diversity, though it's hardly as though there's a shortage of this stuff in the mainstream media. I suppose that's the problem with publishing leftist supposedly dissident stuff like TomDispatch - leftists are inherently globalist and interventionist and so can be relied upon to ultimately subvert and let down any resistance to those trends.

    Dilip Hiro's piece is quite inspiring though, and certainly renews my faith in my (non-voting, obviously) support for Trump in 2016. It's notably simplistic to the point of being dishonest in parts, however. For instance:

    [Putin's] alliance with Assad had three dimensions: Syria’s historic links to the Soviet Union in the Cold War era; the Kremlin’s desire to have a naval facility in the Mediterranean after the loss of such a port in Libya when Muammar Gaddafi fell in 2011; and his doctrine that any group that takes up arms against an internationally recognized government is a terrorist organization.
     
    The first two points are legitimate, albeit their relative importance can be questioned. The third as stated is absurd and clearly selectively propagandist in intent.

    No mention of the likely real drivers of Russian intervention - concern to prevent another victory for islamist jihadism that would likely threaten Russia's own muslim areas with further disorder, and concern to resist the US sphere's advance and its "regime changing" of yet another country.

    The pointed omission of any reference to these clear motivations calls into question Hiro's competence as an analyst of international affairs, and even his personal honesty.

    No mention of the likely real drivers of Russian intervention

    American pundits who pretend to know about outside world usually struggle mightily with the issue of causality. In their opinion the wind blows because trees are moving.

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  20. Joe Hide says:

    Congratulations to the author,
    Dis-information Involves blending known truths with acceptable arguments with false fabrications.
    You have indeed blended historical facts with political/economic/cultural arguments with false fabrications on the Trump Administration’s goals, strategies, and motives.
    Congratulations!

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  21. Most European leaders would see the rise of China as being in Europe’s interest. US attempts to undermine the EU and US unwillingness to defend Europe against Putin’s revisionism have undermined European confidence in the US as a reliable ally. Equally, Chinese plans for the Big Island (Asia, Europe and Africa) undermine Putin’s attempts to dominate both Europe and Asia. That Trump is slowly destroying the US is perfectly clear. If he remains in the White House until 2025, there will probably be little left of American power and, since the US “business model” is built, preciesly, on that power, there will probably be little left of the US economy either. The US collapse will probably also bring about the collapse of Israel. I’m not sure anything will change any of that but unless Trump is just going to lie down and die, he needs a war to restore US credibility. He can bawl and bellow all he wants about North Korea or Iran but the only war that counts is the war on Putin. Putin has challenged US supremacy by attacking Ukraine and the only credible way of restoring that supremecy is to get Putin out of Ukraine. One way or the other.

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    I think the old line of Putin attacking the Ukraine died long ago in propaganda land, and here you are trying to raise it from the dead,good-luck with that one..,.
    , @anonymous
    Not only European leaders - I think that a number of American leaders also see that clear and present threat that Russia poses to the world through its promotion of extremism and active intervention in the politics of the United States. This has reached the extent to actual hack of voting machines, a projection of of how the brutally authoritarian government that by now has placed sympathizers such as Trump(who praises Putin at every moment the orange cheeseball can).

    China isn't much better but both countries being authoritarian means that they have limited understanding of genuine empathy and a rules-based sociey and therefore can be played off each other. Tactic American support for the recovering of former Chinese lands now called Siberia, for exmaple, should be traded until Russia removes invasion forces from Ukraine and allows for a free and open election to build toward a liberal democracy. After Russia is brought to heel, then China can also be mitigated and isolated and progressed toward a more friendly government. The people are not a problem in a the whole - Poland, South Korea and Japan are example of success stories of formerly regressive and xenophobic societies who can be brought and educated to universal values, but its important that the UN is active(and it cannot wit hthe stupid fake president) to prevent backsliding toward despotisim.

    There is a sickness to the "russian soul" a callous rudeness and lack of empathy for marginalized individuals, which filters into their government and worship of strongman characters. The upside is that thanks to growing awareness, this means that huge quantities of their society are active and bravely seeking change, such as women currently being forced into reactionary roles and literally being beaten to keep silent.

    https://www.hddocumentary.com/bbc-stacy-dooley-investigates-russias-war-on-women-2018/

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  22. Miro23 says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Already in the thirties many in GB understood that GB could no longer afford its empire.
    Never anywhere saw a cost benefit analysis, cost, at the time, of Brittannia rules the waves, against benefits from colonial possessions, in particular India.
    Lawrence R. Pratt, 'East of Malta, West of Suez', London, 1975

    Never saw so clearly explained the British dilemma, they could not afford to control at the same time the Mediterranean, and the Far East.
    There was much talk about the bastion Singapore, so when it fell the British were shocked.
    They were also shocked when the battle ships Repulse and Prince of Wales were sunk by aircraft flown by little yellow men.
    As was the British navy, until then it was not believed that aircraft were a threat to battle ships.

    I wonder if the USA today is in the same position as the British inn the thirties.
    If the USA is, I hope it does not lead to desperate measures, as the British guarantees that unleashed WWII.

    Maybe the present USA government does have a cost benefit analysis, and concluded that the USA empire costs more than the benefits.

    Maybe the present USA government does have a cost benefit analysis, and concluded that the USA empire costs more than the benefits.

    British /American Imperial parallels are interesting, and it’s true the British elite did pull back from Empire because the cost/benefit calculation changed after WWI – the cost became an impossible burden.

    The US is different, because the US elite isn’t concerned about the national cost or the burden placed on the public. They’ve already proved this, by putting the public something like $ 6 Trillion in debt to pay for Middle East wars, with themselves and their MSM still pushing for more (Syria, Iran).

    US policy is dictated to Congress (and the administration) by an elite that is concerned with (in order of probable importance) 1) The Likud view of Israel’s security – military and economic 2) continued MIC billion dollar special funding 3) Finance, Outsourcers & Globalists for the free flow of capital, goods and cheap labour.

    The aptly described “Grotesque” Hillary Clinton brought all this together as the Democratic candidate.

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    " British /American Imperial parallels are interesting, and it’s true the British elite did pull back from Empire because the cost/benefit calculation changed after WWI – the cost became an impossible burden. "

    Nowhere saw anything that the British elite pulled back, on the contrary, nothing made Churchill so mad at FDR than the idea that India should be independent.
    About costs, already before WWI GB could no longer maintain the the two fleet standard, that is, the Navy should be able to fight, with success, the next two strongest fleets.
    Obama lowered the two war standard to one and a half.
    What a half war is, I wonder.
    Then the GB elite after WWII, the official exchange rate of the pound sterling was maintained despite all consequences.
    SO, when the war was over, food was even more scarce than during the war, when Lendlease was a great help.
    What the British public was never told was that Lendlease was with a huge price tag: liberating trade in the empire to outsiders.
    Hero Churchill was the undertaker of the empire, the 1941 Hess documents still are classified, the only explanation can be that Hess came with very reasonable peace proposals.
    This of course cannot be.
    The book written by the British historian Charley, he is a critic of Churchill, never appeared in original english, just in a german translation;
    John Charmley, ‘Der Untergang des Britischen Empires, Roosevelt – Churchill und Amerikas Weg zur Weltmacht’, Graz 2005
    Translation:
    The end of the British empire, FDR Churchill, and the USA's road to world power
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  23. @Randal
    Good to see Unz publishing some globalist, interventionist nonsense as well, for diversity, though it's hardly as though there's a shortage of this stuff in the mainstream media. I suppose that's the problem with publishing leftist supposedly dissident stuff like TomDispatch - leftists are inherently globalist and interventionist and so can be relied upon to ultimately subvert and let down any resistance to those trends.

    Dilip Hiro's piece is quite inspiring though, and certainly renews my faith in my (non-voting, obviously) support for Trump in 2016. It's notably simplistic to the point of being dishonest in parts, however. For instance:

    [Putin's] alliance with Assad had three dimensions: Syria’s historic links to the Soviet Union in the Cold War era; the Kremlin’s desire to have a naval facility in the Mediterranean after the loss of such a port in Libya when Muammar Gaddafi fell in 2011; and his doctrine that any group that takes up arms against an internationally recognized government is a terrorist organization.
     
    The first two points are legitimate, albeit their relative importance can be questioned. The third as stated is absurd and clearly selectively propagandist in intent.

    No mention of the likely real drivers of Russian intervention - concern to prevent another victory for islamist jihadism that would likely threaten Russia's own muslim areas with further disorder, and concern to resist the US sphere's advance and its "regime changing" of yet another country.

    The pointed omission of any reference to these clear motivations calls into question Hiro's competence as an analyst of international affairs, and even his personal honesty.

    “The pointed omission of any reference to these clear motivations calls into question Hiro’s competence as an analyst of international affairs, and even his personal honesty.”

    My sentiments exactly. What some editors view as valid in the writings of the “dissident left” is usually the use by leftists of certain components from their list of ideas that have been expressed by those who oppose their agenda, to get a reader to swallow items of the left’s agenda.

    Hiro, and others at TD seem to imagine that they have managed to get the reader to nod along with them as they read his own words back to him, while they lead him to a conclusion that only a diseased mind could accept.

    It’s foolish to accept any leftist as an ally. Leftists can never be true allies because they are, in the end, leftists.

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    Hmmmmmm! the article is more like harebrained collection of presented facts, and not so much of an analysis.
    For me it is difficult to verify which facts are true and which are fantasy.
    One of the facts he mentioned that Silk road will go through Russia, I did find to be incorrect. Silk road will go through Kazakhstan. (Less roads and railways to cross}
    But the article is still refreshing.
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  24. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    What an empty article in unz. There are too many low quality, googled cut n paste articles filled with nonsense now in unz.

    Just for sake to highlight what this writer utter emptiness:

    President Obama had worked on the agreement for almost eight years, … Still, he left office without submitting it for approval to Congress.

    Writer don’t even read what is TPP to quote, that will handover countries power to coporates that yes to contained China, but benefits capitalists on expense of all people . And Trump already had declared he will scrap TPP even its signed, so wtf writer is talking of obomma Hussein not submit before he exit as Potus?

    In opposition to Trump, eight American states, all invested in speeding up the use of electric vehicles, remained committed to the Paris Agreement. So, too, did a private-sector coalition..

    Everyone know Paris Agreement is great for the world future, help developing countries, best for China. But US don’t give a damn to the world future if it don’t benefit Uncle Scam pocket. Trump knew this too well, only Oboma pretense to be a saint with both hands dripping with war bloods.

    another major Chinese initiative — the Asian International Investment Bank.

    Even this AIIB abbr he don’t understand, its Asian Infrastructure Inv Bank.

    Those assets are capped by Putin’s 18 years in high office, which have enabled him to see the fruition of his policies in a way no American president could.

    US has unparalleled military MIC, global oil & gas control, and nuclear industries, even absolute financial control, what potus could not match in all these resources except their moron brain vs Putin?

    And more Egypt nonsense, not knowing it has long history of close alliance since Soviet era.

    chanting his mantra of “America First,” Donald Trump has so far followed policies that have only eased the way for the Chinese dragon to roar past Uncle Sam, with the Russian bear not far behind.

    Trumps is only the potus to receive the accumulated shits from previous many potus, that he tried to correct some but resisted by deep states and moronic Americans. Today US declination is not done in one day, but long history of endless wars, capitalist lobbyists sucking out every marrow and numerous absurd policies. There is no other hope but an economic disaster to collapse the evil empire to restart, thus saving the Americans and the world from apocalypse.

    Such article like many in unz, is a waste of my data and time even to click on, what Unz has become now…another overflowing shit hole like Globalresearch now flooded with low quality writers competing for readership with loud titles but empty contents.

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  25. Che Guava says:

    Dillip,

    The Trump admin. may have been unwise in terms of the interests of upper-class Americans and their recently arrived lackeys, like you.

    It is great for all of the places that were being pressed to join. The intention and effect would to have been to force any and all of U.S.A.’s ridiculous copyright and trademark terms, and bizarre patent judgments, in place throughout the zone.

    Everyone is better off out of it. Some of the places aready had bilat. deals, did the same things. More fool them.

    Except for shareholders and bosses of big pharma, Hollywood, the U.S.A. patent pirate industry, I would expect the fall of the pact to have a positive effect in the U.S.A,, too.

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  26. @jilles dykstra
    The Marshall Plan did not rebuild Europe.
    I can vaguely remember 1948, the Netherlands had repaired most of the war damage.
    My father had been busy doing that from the liberation.
    I do remember when he took me to a Bailey bridge, as he said, that had replaced the old bridge, as said, 'in de lucht laten vliegen', by the Germans.
    In de lucht laten vliegen, literally 'blown into the sky'.
    I looked up, and said 'I do not see anything'.
    Anyhow, the Bailey bridge was replaced under my father's supervision by a two lane concrete bridge.

    Marshall aid was given to prevent S and E European countrie from becoming communist.
    During the 1948 Italian election a large part of the USA fleet was anchored off the Italian coast, tanks had been landed already under a pretext.

    In Germany, Beetles were running off the production lines,as were pre war model Mercedeses, the Beetles already in 1945, I think.
    The British started production, contrary to the Morgenthau Plan, of killing ten million Germans through hunger, by removing all industry.
    As Churchill said to FDR 'I'm not going to be chained to a corpse'.

    At present the reverse, Brexit, Merkel has no intention to be chained to a corpse', whatever the Brussel bureaucrats want.

    Jyles, here’s a quote and a link to a very good antidote to the myth that the Marshall Plan was intended to “save” Europe. It was a shakedown of the middle and working classes by the economic “elite” as usual.

    It’s short and to the point.

    The actual legacy of the Marshall Plan was a vast expansion of government at home, the beginnings of the Cold War rhetoric that would sustain the welfare-warfare state for 40 years, a permanent global troop presence, and an entire business class on the take from Washington. It also created a belief on the part of the ruling elite in D.C. that it could trick the public into backing anything, including the idea that government and its connected interest groups should run the world at taxpayer expense.

    Tucker, Jeffrey A. “The Marshall Plan Myth.” The Free Market 15, no. 9 (September 1997).

    https://mises.org/library/marshall-plan-myth

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    George F. Kennan, ´Memoirs 1925 – 1950’, New York 1967, 1972 was the spiritual father of the Marshall plan, and executed the plan.
    He had quite different ideas.
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  27. @Miro23

    Maybe the present USA government does have a cost benefit analysis, and concluded that the USA empire costs more than the benefits.
     
    British /American Imperial parallels are interesting, and it's true the British elite did pull back from Empire because the cost/benefit calculation changed after WWI - the cost became an impossible burden.

    The US is different, because the US elite isn't concerned about the national cost or the burden placed on the public. They've already proved this, by putting the public something like $ 6 Trillion in debt to pay for Middle East wars, with themselves and their MSM still pushing for more (Syria, Iran).

    US policy is dictated to Congress (and the administration) by an elite that is concerned with (in order of probable importance) 1) The Likud view of Israel's security - military and economic 2) continued MIC billion dollar special funding 3) Finance, Outsourcers & Globalists for the free flow of capital, goods and cheap labour.

    The aptly described "Grotesque" Hillary Clinton brought all this together as the Democratic candidate.

    ” British /American Imperial parallels are interesting, and it’s true the British elite did pull back from Empire because the cost/benefit calculation changed after WWI – the cost became an impossible burden. ”

    Nowhere saw anything that the British elite pulled back, on the contrary, nothing made Churchill so mad at FDR than the idea that India should be independent.
    About costs, already before WWI GB could no longer maintain the the two fleet standard, that is, the Navy should be able to fight, with success, the next two strongest fleets.
    Obama lowered the two war standard to one and a half.
    What a half war is, I wonder.
    Then the GB elite after WWII, the official exchange rate of the pound sterling was maintained despite all consequences.
    SO, when the war was over, food was even more scarce than during the war, when Lendlease was a great help.
    What the British public was never told was that Lendlease was with a huge price tag: liberating trade in the empire to outsiders.
    Hero Churchill was the undertaker of the empire, the 1941 Hess documents still are classified, the only explanation can be that Hess came with very reasonable peace proposals.
    This of course cannot be.
    The book written by the British historian Charley, he is a critic of Churchill, never appeared in original english, just in a german translation;
    John Charmley, ‘Der Untergang des Britischen Empires, Roosevelt – Churchill und Amerikas Weg zur Weltmacht’, Graz 2005
    Translation:
    The end of the British empire, FDR Churchill, and the USA’s road to world power

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    Every expense in WW2 US charged to England. England did own all railroads in US and was forced to sell to US private interests. Including large number of English own companies. To pay the debt.
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  28. @jacques sheete
    Jyles, here's a quote and a link to a very good antidote to the myth that the Marshall Plan was intended to "save" Europe. It was a shakedown of the middle and working classes by the economic "elite" as usual.

    It's short and to the point.



    The actual legacy of the Marshall Plan was a vast expansion of government at home, the beginnings of the Cold War rhetoric that would sustain the welfare-warfare state for 40 years, a permanent global troop presence, and an entire business class on the take from Washington. It also created a belief on the part of the ruling elite in D.C. that it could trick the public into backing anything, including the idea that government and its connected interest groups should run the world at taxpayer expense.


    Tucker, Jeffrey A. "The Marshall Plan Myth." The Free Market 15, no. 9 (September 1997).

    https://mises.org/library/marshall-plan-myth
     

    George F. Kennan, ´Memoirs 1925 – 1950’, New York 1967, 1972 was the spiritual father of the Marshall plan, and executed the plan.
    He had quite different ideas.

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    George F. Kennan, ´Memoirs 1925 – 1950’, New York 1967, 1972 was the spiritual father of the Marshall plan, and executed the plan.
    He had quite different ideas.
     
    In my book, Kennan was a pretty decent person for a bureaucrat although he changed his views somewhat late in the game.

    I'll have to research his views on the Marshall Plan, but I suspect that if he approved, he was a bit off the mark. I'm suspect, as well about the claim that he was the spiritual father of it.

    In any case, I'd be interested in what you think his ideas were vis a vis the plan, and I still believe it was another "elite" rip-off of the usual dupes such as me and those in my economic class. No doubt it was done to benefit the .0001%.

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  29. @Twodees Partain
    "The pointed omission of any reference to these clear motivations calls into question Hiro’s competence as an analyst of international affairs, and even his personal honesty."

    My sentiments exactly. What some editors view as valid in the writings of the "dissident left" is usually the use by leftists of certain components from their list of ideas that have been expressed by those who oppose their agenda, to get a reader to swallow items of the left's agenda.

    Hiro, and others at TD seem to imagine that they have managed to get the reader to nod along with them as they read his own words back to him, while they lead him to a conclusion that only a diseased mind could accept.

    It's foolish to accept any leftist as an ally. Leftists can never be true allies because they are, in the end, leftists.

    Hmmmmmm! the article is more like harebrained collection of presented facts, and not so much of an analysis.
    For me it is difficult to verify which facts are true and which are fantasy.
    One of the facts he mentioned that Silk road will go through Russia, I did find to be incorrect. Silk road will go through Kazakhstan. (Less roads and railways to cross}
    But the article is still refreshing.

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    Syrian ‘Civil War’, lol.

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  31. @jilles dykstra
    " British /American Imperial parallels are interesting, and it’s true the British elite did pull back from Empire because the cost/benefit calculation changed after WWI – the cost became an impossible burden. "

    Nowhere saw anything that the British elite pulled back, on the contrary, nothing made Churchill so mad at FDR than the idea that India should be independent.
    About costs, already before WWI GB could no longer maintain the the two fleet standard, that is, the Navy should be able to fight, with success, the next two strongest fleets.
    Obama lowered the two war standard to one and a half.
    What a half war is, I wonder.
    Then the GB elite after WWII, the official exchange rate of the pound sterling was maintained despite all consequences.
    SO, when the war was over, food was even more scarce than during the war, when Lendlease was a great help.
    What the British public was never told was that Lendlease was with a huge price tag: liberating trade in the empire to outsiders.
    Hero Churchill was the undertaker of the empire, the 1941 Hess documents still are classified, the only explanation can be that Hess came with very reasonable peace proposals.
    This of course cannot be.
    The book written by the British historian Charley, he is a critic of Churchill, never appeared in original english, just in a german translation;
    John Charmley, ‘Der Untergang des Britischen Empires, Roosevelt – Churchill und Amerikas Weg zur Weltmacht’, Graz 2005
    Translation:
    The end of the British empire, FDR Churchill, and the USA's road to world power

    Every expense in WW2 US charged to England. England did own all railroads in US and was forced to sell to US private interests. Including large number of English own companies. To pay the debt.

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  32. @jilles dykstra
    George F. Kennan, ´Memoirs 1925 – 1950’, New York 1967, 1972 was the spiritual father of the Marshall plan, and executed the plan.
    He had quite different ideas.

    George F. Kennan, ´Memoirs 1925 – 1950’, New York 1967, 1972 was the spiritual father of the Marshall plan, and executed the plan.
    He had quite different ideas.

    In my book, Kennan was a pretty decent person for a bureaucrat although he changed his views somewhat late in the game.

    I’ll have to research his views on the Marshall Plan, but I suspect that if he approved, he was a bit off the mark. I’m suspect, as well about the claim that he was the spiritual father of it.

    In any case, I’d be interested in what you think his ideas were vis a vis the plan, and I still believe it was another “elite” rip-off of the usual dupes such as me and those in my economic class. No doubt it was done to benefit the .0001%.

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  33. I do envisage (from the point of efficiency) to be circular double lined artery of the Eurasian trade and tourism, to which each country of interest (including China) to be connected by their own vein system.

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  34. bluedog says:
    @Michael Kenny
    Most European leaders would see the rise of China as being in Europe's interest. US attempts to undermine the EU and US unwillingness to defend Europe against Putin's revisionism have undermined European confidence in the US as a reliable ally. Equally, Chinese plans for the Big Island (Asia, Europe and Africa) undermine Putin's attempts to dominate both Europe and Asia. That Trump is slowly destroying the US is perfectly clear. If he remains in the White House until 2025, there will probably be little left of American power and, since the US "business model" is built, preciesly, on that power, there will probably be little left of the US economy either. The US collapse will probably also bring about the collapse of Israel. I'm not sure anything will change any of that but unless Trump is just going to lie down and die, he needs a war to restore US credibility. He can bawl and bellow all he wants about North Korea or Iran but the only war that counts is the war on Putin. Putin has challenged US supremacy by attacking Ukraine and the only credible way of restoring that supremecy is to get Putin out of Ukraine. One way or the other.

    I think the old line of Putin attacking the Ukraine died long ago in propaganda land, and here you are trying to raise it from the dead,good-luck with that one..,.

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  35. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael Kenny
    Most European leaders would see the rise of China as being in Europe's interest. US attempts to undermine the EU and US unwillingness to defend Europe against Putin's revisionism have undermined European confidence in the US as a reliable ally. Equally, Chinese plans for the Big Island (Asia, Europe and Africa) undermine Putin's attempts to dominate both Europe and Asia. That Trump is slowly destroying the US is perfectly clear. If he remains in the White House until 2025, there will probably be little left of American power and, since the US "business model" is built, preciesly, on that power, there will probably be little left of the US economy either. The US collapse will probably also bring about the collapse of Israel. I'm not sure anything will change any of that but unless Trump is just going to lie down and die, he needs a war to restore US credibility. He can bawl and bellow all he wants about North Korea or Iran but the only war that counts is the war on Putin. Putin has challenged US supremacy by attacking Ukraine and the only credible way of restoring that supremecy is to get Putin out of Ukraine. One way or the other.

    Not only European leaders – I think that a number of American leaders also see that clear and present threat that Russia poses to the world through its promotion of extremism and active intervention in the politics of the United States. This has reached the extent to actual hack of voting machines, a projection of of how the brutally authoritarian government that by now has placed sympathizers such as Trump(who praises Putin at every moment the orange cheeseball can).

    China isn’t much better but both countries being authoritarian means that they have limited understanding of genuine empathy and a rules-based sociey and therefore can be played off each other. Tactic American support for the recovering of former Chinese lands now called Siberia, for exmaple, should be traded until Russia removes invasion forces from Ukraine and allows for a free and open election to build toward a liberal democracy. After Russia is brought to heel, then China can also be mitigated and isolated and progressed toward a more friendly government. The people are not a problem in a the whole – Poland, South Korea and Japan are example of success stories of formerly regressive and xenophobic societies who can be brought and educated to universal values, but its important that the UN is active(and it cannot wit hthe stupid fake president) to prevent backsliding toward despotisim.

    There is a sickness to the “russian soul” a callous rudeness and lack of empathy for marginalized individuals, which filters into their government and worship of strongman characters. The upside is that thanks to growing awareness, this means that huge quantities of their society are active and bravely seeking change, such as women currently being forced into reactionary roles and literally being beaten to keep silent.

    https://www.hddocumentary.com/bbc-stacy-dooley-investigates-russias-war-on-women-2018/

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    this has to be the best cool aide drinking writing I have ever seen.
    , @Art

    Not only European leaders – I think that a number of American leaders also see that clear and present threat that Russia poses to the world through its promotion of extremism and active intervention in the politics of the United States.
     
    That is total Hasbara Central crap - it serves Israel - not America.

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Considering this invention of astronomic power of Russian influence possible everything and anything only project of desperate weakness of defensive apparatus of US and western countries.
    It is called double edged sword.
    It makes Russians laugh so much that they are rolling on the floor.
    Concerning you, you are total and absolutely idiotic POS.
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    Why don't you use an identifiable posting name? That way I, and perhaps others, too, could avoid wasting time on your sick drivel, much as many of us do whenever "Michael Kenny" drops a turd into the thread. Or perhaps, you are "Michael Kenny", posting anonymously to simulate agreement with his unedifying, tedious posturings?
    , @yurivku
    Wow! Now I see where US gets the imbeciles from for her President's administration and how you fill the Congress hall chairs!
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  36. @anonymous
    Not only European leaders - I think that a number of American leaders also see that clear and present threat that Russia poses to the world through its promotion of extremism and active intervention in the politics of the United States. This has reached the extent to actual hack of voting machines, a projection of of how the brutally authoritarian government that by now has placed sympathizers such as Trump(who praises Putin at every moment the orange cheeseball can).

    China isn't much better but both countries being authoritarian means that they have limited understanding of genuine empathy and a rules-based sociey and therefore can be played off each other. Tactic American support for the recovering of former Chinese lands now called Siberia, for exmaple, should be traded until Russia removes invasion forces from Ukraine and allows for a free and open election to build toward a liberal democracy. After Russia is brought to heel, then China can also be mitigated and isolated and progressed toward a more friendly government. The people are not a problem in a the whole - Poland, South Korea and Japan are example of success stories of formerly regressive and xenophobic societies who can be brought and educated to universal values, but its important that the UN is active(and it cannot wit hthe stupid fake president) to prevent backsliding toward despotisim.

    There is a sickness to the "russian soul" a callous rudeness and lack of empathy for marginalized individuals, which filters into their government and worship of strongman characters. The upside is that thanks to growing awareness, this means that huge quantities of their society are active and bravely seeking change, such as women currently being forced into reactionary roles and literally being beaten to keep silent.

    https://www.hddocumentary.com/bbc-stacy-dooley-investigates-russias-war-on-women-2018/

    this has to be the best cool aide drinking writing I have ever seen.

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  37. Art says:

    America is isolated. We and the world are at odds. The people of this planet need nor infrastructure and trade – NOT more war.

    The US Jews have congress, Trump, and his generals locked into a war path. This is a grave crime!

    Every US general is pro-Israel — how can this be?

    Clearly Trump is pro-Israel.

    AIPAC’s congress just gave the MIC 150,000,000,000 more dollars to fight Israel’s enemies.

    The three entities are funding more confrontations with – Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, and north Africa. The tribal Jew agenda just rolls on and on.

    This does ZERO good for America. We are not making things better in any of those lands. We are now on the dark side of human evolution.

    The Jews are eating America up — consuming our wealth – and trashing our culture. We must return to being builders – not destroyers.

    Think Peace — Art

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  38. This is the kind of globalist fearmongering that you expect to see in msm, not in an “alternative” news source like Unz Review. But since it’s here, let’s discuss the points brought up:

    TPP
    The idea of this trade deal is supposedly to encircle China. However, the Chinese are no dummies. As soon as Obama drafted the plan, they were already busy moving their manufacturing to Malaysia, Vietnam etc. to take full advantage of TPP. The end result is like Ping Pong in the Olympics, no matter which “country” is competing against which “country”, China always sweeps the podium, because all the players in countries like Norway, France, Brazil etc. are all Chinese nationals who emigrated there to gain access to the Olympics. These TPP countries are just front men for China. Trump was right to cancel it. Only a dumb naive Democrap like Obama could put together such a deal. The Chinese are 10 steps ahead of him.

    Climate Change
    LOL France can have all the climate change “scientists” they want. Take them all, and be sure to take all their “green energy” lobbyists with them to France.

    China’s One Belt One Road
    If the Europeans want their manufacturing sector further decimated by even cheaper Chinese goods, let them have at it. But what will they do with all the uneducated migrants they keep taking in? What kind of jobs will they give them if not mindless factory work? How many falafel stands do they need in Berlin or Paris? And btw how exactly is the US to “participate” in this? Europe and Asia share a landmass, while the US is a vast ocean away from each. Meanwhile, don’t count on this project achieving its aim either, it still has to go through too many shithole “stan” countries, I foresee bombings and sabotages along this route when China does not play nice, i.e. bribe these despotic regimes in one way or another.

    In the Middle East…
    No question the US strategy in the Mideast is a complete fail. Trump as America’s first Jewish president is making things worse, making unnecessary enemies with Assad, Iran and Russia to please his Zionist overlords. The Russians are great at playing chess, and Putin is a grand master. Despite Trump die-hards’ claims of Trump playing 6th dimensional or 13th dimensional chess with every bad move he’s made, including continuing on with this illegal invasion of Syria, Trump is a dumb megalomaniac being jerked around by the neocon Zionists Pence has him surrounded with. America’s Mideast problem begins and ends with Israel. It used to be about oil, but we don’t need the oil anymore, now it’s all about Israel. This is not a solvable problem as long as the swamp is not cleaned out of DC, and it’s not going to be with the two biggest Zionists to ever occupy the WH (Trump and Pence) still at the helm. Pence and his BFF Paul Ryan are two of the biggest swamp creatures in DC. The swamp is not going to clean itself out, it’ll just replenish it.

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  39. Z-man says:

    …and at the end no mention of Izruel. The dot head shows his true colors there as Indians are mostly pro Zionists since they both have a common enemy.

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  40. Art says:
    @anonymous
    Not only European leaders - I think that a number of American leaders also see that clear and present threat that Russia poses to the world through its promotion of extremism and active intervention in the politics of the United States. This has reached the extent to actual hack of voting machines, a projection of of how the brutally authoritarian government that by now has placed sympathizers such as Trump(who praises Putin at every moment the orange cheeseball can).

    China isn't much better but both countries being authoritarian means that they have limited understanding of genuine empathy and a rules-based sociey and therefore can be played off each other. Tactic American support for the recovering of former Chinese lands now called Siberia, for exmaple, should be traded until Russia removes invasion forces from Ukraine and allows for a free and open election to build toward a liberal democracy. After Russia is brought to heel, then China can also be mitigated and isolated and progressed toward a more friendly government. The people are not a problem in a the whole - Poland, South Korea and Japan are example of success stories of formerly regressive and xenophobic societies who can be brought and educated to universal values, but its important that the UN is active(and it cannot wit hthe stupid fake president) to prevent backsliding toward despotisim.

    There is a sickness to the "russian soul" a callous rudeness and lack of empathy for marginalized individuals, which filters into their government and worship of strongman characters. The upside is that thanks to growing awareness, this means that huge quantities of their society are active and bravely seeking change, such as women currently being forced into reactionary roles and literally being beaten to keep silent.

    https://www.hddocumentary.com/bbc-stacy-dooley-investigates-russias-war-on-women-2018/

    Not only European leaders – I think that a number of American leaders also see that clear and present threat that Russia poses to the world through its promotion of extremism and active intervention in the politics of the United States.

    That is total Hasbara Central crap – it serves Israel – not America.

    Think Peace — Art

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  41. @Hmmm
    Agree.

    But let's rant a little bit. Let's take one example from the article:
    America... "in its urge to build walls of every kind and shut so many people out"

    I am not American, but I do know that the US has the highest immigration rate in the world (when combining legal and illegal immigration). But that understates what is going on. US is undertaking one of the most rapid, and comprehensive demographic transformations the world has never seen. It is literally replacing its native population with such viciousness and carelessness that it completely escapes any rational analysis.

    And yet the people still get:
    "in its urge to build walls of every kind and shut so many people out"

    How do these people square the circles in their heads all the time? I mean, I know some of them are dollar store propagandists. But not all of them. Some of them actually believe. Scary.

    Look at his name. Dilip Hiro. Wonder no longer about why he is on the Immivasion Bandwagon.

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  42. @anonymous
    Not only European leaders - I think that a number of American leaders also see that clear and present threat that Russia poses to the world through its promotion of extremism and active intervention in the politics of the United States. This has reached the extent to actual hack of voting machines, a projection of of how the brutally authoritarian government that by now has placed sympathizers such as Trump(who praises Putin at every moment the orange cheeseball can).

    China isn't much better but both countries being authoritarian means that they have limited understanding of genuine empathy and a rules-based sociey and therefore can be played off each other. Tactic American support for the recovering of former Chinese lands now called Siberia, for exmaple, should be traded until Russia removes invasion forces from Ukraine and allows for a free and open election to build toward a liberal democracy. After Russia is brought to heel, then China can also be mitigated and isolated and progressed toward a more friendly government. The people are not a problem in a the whole - Poland, South Korea and Japan are example of success stories of formerly regressive and xenophobic societies who can be brought and educated to universal values, but its important that the UN is active(and it cannot wit hthe stupid fake president) to prevent backsliding toward despotisim.

    There is a sickness to the "russian soul" a callous rudeness and lack of empathy for marginalized individuals, which filters into their government and worship of strongman characters. The upside is that thanks to growing awareness, this means that huge quantities of their society are active and bravely seeking change, such as women currently being forced into reactionary roles and literally being beaten to keep silent.

    https://www.hddocumentary.com/bbc-stacy-dooley-investigates-russias-war-on-women-2018/

    Considering this invention of astronomic power of Russian influence possible everything and anything only project of desperate weakness of defensive apparatus of US and western countries.
    It is called double edged sword.
    It makes Russians laugh so much that they are rolling on the floor.
    Concerning you, you are total and absolutely idiotic POS.

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    still laughing? your little pieces of "soviet" engineering are burning with stinking vodka-infused flesh in them now and with anything who trusts those worthless deathtraps against American firepower. You've had your little heyday before when we backed down but now its time to run back and hide with your head between your little legs and do autofellatio in the quite dark with Sheriff Mattis on the watch.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/a-us-jet-destroyed-a-russian-t-72-battle-tank-in-self-defense-in-syria-2018-2


    Russia strong! Very strong! In hell, now, being strong! Now get the fuck out of Crimea you bandits.

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  43. “One Belt One Road” should be called by its real name, the Chinese Full Employment Act, just like the H1b visa is the Keep India Employed visa, and the Eb5 “investor” visa is the Corrupt Chinese Get-out-of-Jail visa.

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    “One Belt One Road” should be called by its real name, the Chinese Full Employment Act, just like the H1b visa is the Keep India Employed visa, and the Eb5 “investor” visa is the Corrupt Chinese Get-out-of-Jail visa.
     
    You are very close on this one. In stripped down version this is precisely what it is. Meanwhile, American economic suicide by China will be studied for decades to come, especially by very delighted classic Marxists. That is if Trump completely fails. We'll see.
    , @Sergey Krieger
    Bull's eye. China is a selfish power. I see a lot of naive fans cheering about China rise but it is actually bad thing for the world. China cares for Chinese only and will suck the whole world dry for internal stability and mandate of heaven. There is not going ussr Russia style forgiven debt or international assistance to brotherly people. Once USA is turned very minor regional player, there is coming vaunted multi polar world mainly a can full of scorpions. But USA has only itself to blame both for helping enemy to rise and also for absolutely no sense of wisdom and proportion and decency ruining USA great opportunity in less than 30 years. Russia must play cards properly and start building itself based on own strenght. China is ovestrenghted and too dependent upon external resources to be the One long term.
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  44. @anonymous
    Not only European leaders - I think that a number of American leaders also see that clear and present threat that Russia poses to the world through its promotion of extremism and active intervention in the politics of the United States. This has reached the extent to actual hack of voting machines, a projection of of how the brutally authoritarian government that by now has placed sympathizers such as Trump(who praises Putin at every moment the orange cheeseball can).

    China isn't much better but both countries being authoritarian means that they have limited understanding of genuine empathy and a rules-based sociey and therefore can be played off each other. Tactic American support for the recovering of former Chinese lands now called Siberia, for exmaple, should be traded until Russia removes invasion forces from Ukraine and allows for a free and open election to build toward a liberal democracy. After Russia is brought to heel, then China can also be mitigated and isolated and progressed toward a more friendly government. The people are not a problem in a the whole - Poland, South Korea and Japan are example of success stories of formerly regressive and xenophobic societies who can be brought and educated to universal values, but its important that the UN is active(and it cannot wit hthe stupid fake president) to prevent backsliding toward despotisim.

    There is a sickness to the "russian soul" a callous rudeness and lack of empathy for marginalized individuals, which filters into their government and worship of strongman characters. The upside is that thanks to growing awareness, this means that huge quantities of their society are active and bravely seeking change, such as women currently being forced into reactionary roles and literally being beaten to keep silent.

    https://www.hddocumentary.com/bbc-stacy-dooley-investigates-russias-war-on-women-2018/

    Why don’t you use an identifiable posting name? That way I, and perhaps others, too, could avoid wasting time on your sick drivel, much as many of us do whenever “Michael Kenny” drops a turd into the thread. Or perhaps, you are “Michael Kenny”, posting anonymously to simulate agreement with his unedifying, tedious posturings?

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  45. @Orwellian State
    "One Belt One Road" should be called by its real name, the Chinese Full Employment Act, just like the H1b visa is the Keep India Employed visa, and the Eb5 "investor" visa is the Corrupt Chinese Get-out-of-Jail visa.

    “One Belt One Road” should be called by its real name, the Chinese Full Employment Act, just like the H1b visa is the Keep India Employed visa, and the Eb5 “investor” visa is the Corrupt Chinese Get-out-of-Jail visa.

    You are very close on this one. In stripped down version this is precisely what it is. Meanwhile, American economic suicide by China will be studied for decades to come, especially by very delighted classic Marxists. That is if Trump completely fails. We’ll see.

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    Agree. I hope Russia leadership knows this.
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  46. JustJeff says:
    @Twodees Partain
    STFU, Dilip. You and every other commie at TD can kiss my ass.

    Low effort boomerpost 0/10

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  47. JustJeff says:

    Funny, China and Russia are challenging us and in both cases it’s all our fault. We let corporations hand over our industry to China for their own short-term gain. We basically dared the Russians to become a competing world power when we expanded NATO to their doorstep, bombed Serbia, and supported color revolution in Georgia and Ukraine. No, America doesn’t deserve to run the world, too stupid and short-sighted. Let the Asians deal with it, they’re more pragmatic and are too ethnocentric to let (((them))) take control of their countries.

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  48. Jason Liu says:

    Countries around the world have seen the results of “western values”, and rightfully oppose them. That said, I am still not convinced that OBOR is logistically feasible over the long run. It could turn out to be the biggest waste of money in human history.

    And did anyone notice that, in the Gallup poll, the countries that rated Trump the lowest are mostly western countries? That says something right there.

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  49. This article is a act of supreme misdirection. Virtually everything is flipped 180 degrees from the truth. What the author touts as beneficial to the USA is in reality, detrimental. And vice versa. It is a ploy to convince the weak minded; poison wrapped in a delicious-smelling meatball.

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  50. Norumbega says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The Marshall Plan did not rebuild Europe.
    I can vaguely remember 1948, the Netherlands had repaired most of the war damage.
    My father had been busy doing that from the liberation.
    I do remember when he took me to a Bailey bridge, as he said, that had replaced the old bridge, as said, 'in de lucht laten vliegen', by the Germans.
    In de lucht laten vliegen, literally 'blown into the sky'.
    I looked up, and said 'I do not see anything'.
    Anyhow, the Bailey bridge was replaced under my father's supervision by a two lane concrete bridge.

    Marshall aid was given to prevent S and E European countrie from becoming communist.
    During the 1948 Italian election a large part of the USA fleet was anchored off the Italian coast, tanks had been landed already under a pretext.

    In Germany, Beetles were running off the production lines,as were pre war model Mercedeses, the Beetles already in 1945, I think.
    The British started production, contrary to the Morgenthau Plan, of killing ten million Germans through hunger, by removing all industry.
    As Churchill said to FDR 'I'm not going to be chained to a corpse'.

    At present the reverse, Brexit, Merkel has no intention to be chained to a corpse', whatever the Brussel bureaucrats want.

    Thanks for the corrections and clarifications. Of course, my major point was that the things I could think of that might begin to compare with the current Chinese global development initiative are not in the same league, and that even these are not typical. (Contrary to Hiro, who had suggested that the Chinese initiative was the sort of thing the US had led pre-Trump.) Your corrections suggest Hiro was even more wrong than I thought.

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  51. Cundalini says:

    China spreads prosperity and hope.
    The U.S spreads genetically modified food and pornography.

    Who’s your money on?

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    You are very naive. China cares only for China and considering Chinese like to eat and there is 1.4 billion of them someone will have to eat less. Add to this 1.4 billion Indians and them liking to eat well too. You get the picture. Here comes multi polar world
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  52. @Orwellian State
    "One Belt One Road" should be called by its real name, the Chinese Full Employment Act, just like the H1b visa is the Keep India Employed visa, and the Eb5 "investor" visa is the Corrupt Chinese Get-out-of-Jail visa.

    Bull’s eye. China is a selfish power. I see a lot of naive fans cheering about China rise but it is actually bad thing for the world. China cares for Chinese only and will suck the whole world dry for internal stability and mandate of heaven. There is not going ussr Russia style forgiven debt or international assistance to brotherly people. Once USA is turned very minor regional player, there is coming vaunted multi polar world mainly a can full of scorpions. But USA has only itself to blame both for helping enemy to rise and also for absolutely no sense of wisdom and proportion and decency ruining USA great opportunity in less than 30 years. Russia must play cards properly and start building itself based on own strenght. China is ovestrenghted and too dependent upon external resources to be the One long term.

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  53. @Andrei Martyanov

    “One Belt One Road” should be called by its real name, the Chinese Full Employment Act, just like the H1b visa is the Keep India Employed visa, and the Eb5 “investor” visa is the Corrupt Chinese Get-out-of-Jail visa.
     
    You are very close on this one. In stripped down version this is precisely what it is. Meanwhile, American economic suicide by China will be studied for decades to come, especially by very delighted classic Marxists. That is if Trump completely fails. We'll see.

    Agree. I hope Russia leadership knows this.

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  54. @Cundalini
    China spreads prosperity and hope.
    The U.S spreads genetically modified food and pornography.

    Who's your money on?

    You are very naive. China cares only for China and considering Chinese like to eat and there is 1.4 billion of them someone will have to eat less. Add to this 1.4 billion Indians and them liking to eat well too. You get the picture. Here comes multi polar world

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  55. Erebus says:

    Helping hand? Perhaps in the sense that Trump is America’s Gorbachev. MAGA is just another Perestroika. 25 years after the USSR’s, America’s Either/Or moment had come round at last. Trump’s failure to deliver, if it comes to that will result from the same dynamic that delivered Gorbachev’s failure – the stark discontinuities within and between the interests of the national elites and the nation itself. Should the central, centripetal myths start to break down, ready and waiting centrifugal forces will become irresistible.

    The American centre will be no more able to hold than the USSR’s was, and the anarchy loosed on the American people will probably surpass that unleashed on the peoples of the SSRs. As the heartland, Russia had the great advantage of 1000 years of cultural and political history as well as defined borders, so recovered in a couple of decades. The American heartland has neither, and there’ll be anarchy aplenty before it does.

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  56. ANON • Disclaimer says:

    Golly Gee! Author has penned 36 books and yet learned nothing but “Conventional Wisdom” and old bromides about world politics and TRUMP’s approach to them??

    TEH STOOPID is strong with this one!

    Is 36 books’ worth of drivel a new record ? Or what?

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  57. Read a cogent summary and analysis of the Monroe Doctrine, then re-read this article in that context. Here is just one example:

    “… TPP was meant, above all, to limit China’s future economic clout in the region by permanently linking the United States to East Asia. The pact was, in other words, meant to be an economic bulwark against a rising China.”

    A pushy, aggressive old-world power meddling in the back-yard of a rising country.

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  58. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Norumbega
    "China’s expansive almost-trillion-dollar One Belt One Road initiative, an infrastructure and transportation project meant to link the vast Eurasian landmass in a great economic web whose heart would lie in Beijing. (These days, the only trillion-dollar “initiatives” out of Washington involve building up its national security state, the military, and the nuclear arsenal further.) This was the sort of global project that once would have been a natural for the U.S. No longer." (Italics added.)

    When? Perhaps FDR's post-war intention to cooperatively develop the whole world, as described by his son, qualifies here, though the vision was never realized. The Marshall Plan did rebuild Europe, though its actual scale was on the order of 1/10 or less the Belt and Road Initiative in adjusted dollars. Kennedy's Alliance for Progress might also be invoked for comparison, though again dwarfed by BRI, and with little to show for it. But the fact is, even these episodes are exceptional. The italicized words above seem quite delusional when one considers the post Bretton Woods regime debt bondage and IMF conditionalities in the interests of Wall Street/City of London.

    The irony is that cooperation with China, toward which Trump (though opposed by the neocons within the Trump Administration) seems more favorably inclined than his predecessors, could be a key ingredient for financing Trump's own infrastructure promises, not to mention potential participation by US companies in BRI projects abroad. The $253 billion in memorandums of understanding signed during Trump's China visit in November (including $83.7 for West Virginia alone) are a promising beginning in this regard. Such beneficial cooperation in no way contradicts "America First" and actually offers a way forward, and away from the brink of confrontation between nuclear superpowers that the geopolitical view promotes as inevitable.

    “China” could be a key ingredient for financing Trump’s own infrastructure promises,

    A sovereign issuer of currency does not need to borrow foreign capital. If your country produces steel, electricity, all the minerals needed, and has an educated workforce, then all the ingredients are present. A sovereign can then issue money to do the projects.

    While bank corporations do run the U.S. it is only by way of fraud. During wartime, monetary fraud is shoved aside. For example, U.S. spent debt free using line item budget authority during WW2. This line item money funneled through reconstruction finance corporation, to then build out aviation, synthetic rubber, and aluminum smelting. The companies created were sold to American’s for $1.

    It is preposterous to think the U.S. needs Chinese money.

    China has about five large state banks, and these banks emit Yuans in the form of loans. These state entities also forgive said loans, effectively making their Yuan bank credit debt free. China has issued trillions of Yuans this way.

    So, this notion of importing formerly debt free issued Yuans to then produce in America is ignorant in the extreme.

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  59. yurivku says:
    @anonymous
    Not only European leaders - I think that a number of American leaders also see that clear and present threat that Russia poses to the world through its promotion of extremism and active intervention in the politics of the United States. This has reached the extent to actual hack of voting machines, a projection of of how the brutally authoritarian government that by now has placed sympathizers such as Trump(who praises Putin at every moment the orange cheeseball can).

    China isn't much better but both countries being authoritarian means that they have limited understanding of genuine empathy and a rules-based sociey and therefore can be played off each other. Tactic American support for the recovering of former Chinese lands now called Siberia, for exmaple, should be traded until Russia removes invasion forces from Ukraine and allows for a free and open election to build toward a liberal democracy. After Russia is brought to heel, then China can also be mitigated and isolated and progressed toward a more friendly government. The people are not a problem in a the whole - Poland, South Korea and Japan are example of success stories of formerly regressive and xenophobic societies who can be brought and educated to universal values, but its important that the UN is active(and it cannot wit hthe stupid fake president) to prevent backsliding toward despotisim.

    There is a sickness to the "russian soul" a callous rudeness and lack of empathy for marginalized individuals, which filters into their government and worship of strongman characters. The upside is that thanks to growing awareness, this means that huge quantities of their society are active and bravely seeking change, such as women currently being forced into reactionary roles and literally being beaten to keep silent.

    https://www.hddocumentary.com/bbc-stacy-dooley-investigates-russias-war-on-women-2018/

    Wow! Now I see where US gets the imbeciles from for her President’s administration and how you fill the Congress hall chairs!

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  60. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Considering this invention of astronomic power of Russian influence possible everything and anything only project of desperate weakness of defensive apparatus of US and western countries.
    It is called double edged sword.
    It makes Russians laugh so much that they are rolling on the floor.
    Concerning you, you are total and absolutely idiotic POS.

    still laughing? your little pieces of “soviet” engineering are burning with stinking vodka-infused flesh in them now and with anything who trusts those worthless deathtraps against American firepower. You’ve had your little heyday before when we backed down but now its time to run back and hide with your head between your little legs and do autofellatio in the quite dark with Sheriff Mattis on the watch.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/a-us-jet-destroyed-a-russian-t-72-battle-tank-in-self-defense-in-syria-2018-2

    Russia strong! Very strong! In hell, now, being strong! Now get the fuck out of Crimea you bandits.

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    Russia strong! Very strong! In hell, now, being strong! Now get the fuck out of Crimea you bandits.
     
    Try not to fart. You can put some pictures of Crimea on your wall and do masturbate - that's all we can help you with.
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  61. yurivku says:
    @anonymous
    still laughing? your little pieces of "soviet" engineering are burning with stinking vodka-infused flesh in them now and with anything who trusts those worthless deathtraps against American firepower. You've had your little heyday before when we backed down but now its time to run back and hide with your head between your little legs and do autofellatio in the quite dark with Sheriff Mattis on the watch.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/a-us-jet-destroyed-a-russian-t-72-battle-tank-in-self-defense-in-syria-2018-2


    Russia strong! Very strong! In hell, now, being strong! Now get the fuck out of Crimea you bandits.

    Russia strong! Very strong! In hell, now, being strong! Now get the fuck out of Crimea you bandits.

    Try not to fart. You can put some pictures of Crimea on your wall and do masturbate – that’s all we can help you with.

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  62. denk says:

    China isn’t much better but both countries being authoritarian means that they have limited understanding of genuine empathy and a rules-based sociey

    ‘rules based societies like fukusI[ndia] ?

    If this guy can pass for a murkkan ‘progressive’ then
    Gawd help us !

    hhhhh

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