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Hamas and Israel clashed recently [700 rockets, 240 intercepts, 4 dead Israelis: Is the Iron Dome getting worse? By Sam Sokol, Jewish Telegraphic Agency, May 7, 2019] and, needless to say, the Trump Administration is backing Israel. GOP Big Brains think this is the way to win over Jewish voters (and donors), the so called “Jexit”. [Trump backers plan ‘Jexit’ rally to attract Jewish voters, by Debra Saunders, Las Vegas Review-Journal, May 6, 2019] Which is also why they are targeting anti-Israel Democrats like Ilhan Omar. But it probably won’t be as effective as they hope.

Jewish voters generally support the Democrats, apparently because of domestic issues. [Pro-Trump Republicans plan big-money play for Jewish vote in 2020, by Alex Isenstadt, Politico, April 7, 2019] But there are also signs that Leftist and younger Jews are increasingly less supportive of Israel.

In San Francisco, only a minority of young Jews believe that a “Jewish state” is important. [Vast numbers of progressive California Jews are disengaging from Israel, Survey Finds, by Judy Maltz, Haaretz, February 14, 2018] Most Jews still support Israel, but younger Jews are increasingly hostile towards Netanyahu’s long-lasting nationalist government. [As Israel turns 70, many young American Jews turn away, by Dox Waxman, The Conversation, May 3, 2018] This has been developing for some time: 2013 survey from Pew showed support for Israel among American Jews is inversely related to age. [Chapter 5: Connection With and Attitudes Toward Israel, Pew Research Center, October 1, 2013]

Remarkably, a recent survey found American Jews are far more likely than Christians to say President Trump favors Israelis too much! [U.S. Jews are more likely than Christians to say Trump favors the Israelis too much, by Gregory Smith, Pew, May 6, 2019]

It’s long been embarrassingly obvious that Jewish groups like the Anti-Defamation League promote a double standard—nationalism for me, diversity for thee. But this hypocrisy is becoming increasingly untenable.

Benjamin Netanyahu recently said Israel is “the national state, not of all its citizens, but only of the Jewish people”. [Netanyahu says Israel is ‘nation-state of the Jewish people and them alone, NPR, March 11, 2019. Emphasis added] It’s currently impossible to imagine a contemporary American politician declaring America the national state only for whites (although this in fact what the 1790 Naturalization Act actually said). Yet it didn’t cost Netanyahu: he won yet another election over opponents who would be considered right-wing by European and American standards. The Week declared “there is functionally no Left left in Israel.”

VDARE Editor Peter Brimelow wrote in 1979 that the British elites saw in heroic breakaway white-ruled Rhodesia “what we were and might have been. And we hated us.” A similar process may be underway for American Jews—embarrassed by a frankly ethnonationalist, natalist, expansionist and confessional state.

In contrast, the Beltway Right whole-heartedly backs the Netanyahu government. Paradoxically, the GOP actually has a far more consistent commitment to Israeli nationalism than it does to American nationalism.

Thus the neocon website The Federalist recently published a remarkable article entitled “The Moral Case For Israel Annexing The West Bank—And Beyond,” in which “radical containment or expulsion” is advocated for the Palestinians in order to preserve the Jewish state [by Jason Hill, April 16, 2019]. Cuckservative Minicon Ben Shapiro advocated population transfers in 2003 (although he’s since supposedly disavowed it).

However, purely from the perspective of preserving an unchallengeable Jewish majority, the logic is sound. In Shapiro’s words in 2003, it’s an “ugly solution, but it is the only solution.” (VDARE.com’s Robert Locke had, needless to say, already raised this point).

Might American conservatives ever think this way about their own country? Conservatism Inc. adamantly insists not. Thus The Federalist recently denounced the “Alt Right” for “racist bile” and declared there is no connection between it and Respectable Right figures like Shapiro [Why the Left can’t understand the Alt-Right, by David Marcus, March 29, 2019].

Few on the Dissident Right accept the term “Alt Right” today because it’s so smeared and so associated with specific individuals. But accepting it arguendo, Marcus is correct that it has no connection with Ben Shapiro. Shapiro, and most other Conservatism Inc. figures, believe American conservatism should be defined by a rejection of “identity politics”—except in the case of Israel. There, the GOP is firmly committed to blood and soil.

Thus, there’s not really a debate about whether the Republican is an ethnonationalist party—it already is. But for Israel.

But will the GOP ever be even a civic nationalist party for Americans?

Answer: a resounding Maybe. An emerging division among non-Jewish white Americans may force the GOP down this path.

The Sailer Strategy often discussed here at VDARE.com argued that the GOP needed to win a larger share of the white majority in order to remain competitive in national elections—essentially by reaching out to the white working class. President Trump won the White House in 2016 by ignoring Conservatism Inc. and, following what we’ve been writing about for years, by winning the Rust Belt.

However, it’s undeniable that there has been a dramatic shift leftward of progressive American whites on racial issues that predated President Trump [what Matthew Yglesias calls “The Great Awokenin g”]. This is not simply the result of a flight by non-Leftist whites from the Democrats, although that is certainly a factor. The whites who remain within the Democrats are moving radically leftward, most likely because of social media and JournoFa agitation.

In contrast, despite Main Stream Media hysteria about “white nationalism,” there has been no equivalent radicalization process taking place among Republicans (President Trump’s current immigration policy, for example, is far to the left of progressive Democrat Barbara Jordan’s.) The “white nationalist” chimera is basically the result of more things being called “racist” by an increasingly manic media elite.

But while white Republicans aren’t “radicalizing,” they’re increasingly fed up with extreme white Democrats.

Thus a recent Pew survey shows 53 percent of Republicans believe that the country has gone far enough in granting equal rights to blacks, with a significant minority of 31 percent saying it has gone “too far” . [Race in America 2019, by Juliana Menasce Horowitz, Anna Brown, and Kiana Cox, Pew, April 9, 2019]

In contrast, almost two-thirds of white Democrats think the country has not done enough, with less than a third thinking it’s about right and only a tiny percentage thinking America has gone “too far.”

On the question of “racial discrimination,” white Republicans and Democrats are exact opposites. Seventy-seven percent of Republicans think the main problem is “seeing discrimination where it does not exist,” while 22 percent think not seeing discrimination is the main problem. For Democrats, 78 percent think not seeing discrimination is the main problem, and only 22 percent think seeing discrimination where it does not exist is the main issue.

Almost all white Democrats, 86 percent, think President Trump has made race relations worse [Race in America 2019, by Juliana Menasce Horowitz, Anna Brown and Kiana Cox, Pew, April 9, 2019].

But a plurality of Republicans (who are, of course, essentially white) think the president actually improved race relations. Most Republicans also think former president Barack Obama made race relations worse.

The Pew report also shows huge differences between white Democrats and white Republicans when it comes to explaining the problems of blacks. Among those who think being black hurts a person’s chance to succeed, large majorities of white Democrats blame racial discrimination, less access to good schools, and less access to high-paying jobs as the reasons. But fewer than a third of Republicans agree. Instead, they blame family instability, lack of good role models, and a lack of motivation to work hard.

Thus Democrats blame social structures while Republicans emphasize individual responsibility.

Similarly, 75 percent of white Republicans think there is too much attention paid to race; only 21 percent of white Democrats agree.

White Republicans are also significantly more likely to believe being white hurts their ability to get ahead (22 percent of white Republicans to only 3 percent of white Democrats).

This division will likely grow in the future. White Democrats’ radicalization will lead to increasing demands for race-driven policies such as “reparations,” racial quotas, and crackdowns on so-called “Hate Speech.” Yet each one of these demands will alienate white Republicans who think the country has already done enough, or even too much.

White Republicans aren’t “white nationalists” by any stretch—but they are truly fed up with Political Correctness.

Thus there are signs of a split between liberal American Jews and nationalist Israel. That split is likely to grow in the years ahead.

But there is already a massive split between Leftist and conservative American whites. Indeed, they are becoming two entirely separate peoples, incapable of even viewing the same event the same way (as the controversy over Covington Catholic showed).

This amounts to a Cold Civil War among American whites. Whites who feel they are under attack are more conservative while whites who feel embarrassed about their identity are more eager to undermine their own group for individual advantage and perceived moral superiority.

Already, this Cold Civil War is seeing violent skirmishes. America desperately needs immigration control, an end to Political Correctness, and at least some effort at building a common identity if the state is to hold together.

But instead, the incentives are in place for white Leftists and non-whites make radical and ultimately impossible demands, on the theory that current immigration policy will anyway eventually Elect A New (non-white) People, whom they will lead.

If the last few years have shown anything, it’s that predictions about the future should be taken with skepticism. But it seems obvious that more conflict, not consensus, is in white America’s future.

This is only going to get worse.

 

James Kirkpatrick [Email him] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc.

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  1. Rational says:

    BIGGEST FEAR OF THE JUDAISTS—JUDAISM!

    Thanks for the article, Sir. And thanks for the useful info. This is good news, that Judaists are turning away from Israel.

    The biggest fear the Rabbis and Jewish leaders have is that Judaists will leave Judaism. All their propaganda machine is directed mostly at their own people and to keep them in the fold.

    This is because the core text of Judaism, the Torah, is a sick, repulsive book that is likely to make decent people vomit in the synagogue and write things as below. I am sure many Judaists wonder upon reading the Torah how they got chosen to be born into this sick depraved evil cult.

    Jewish scholar Dr. Samuel Benjamin Harris read the Torah and remarked:

    “There is no text more barbaric than the Old Testament….–books like Deuteronomy and Leviticus and Exodus*. The Quran pales in comparison.”–Jewish author Dr. Samuel Benjamin Harris.

    *i.e. Torah

    Another honest Jewish man read the Torah and realized that the Exodus story and “Jews were slaves” story is fake:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/staks-rosch/the-biblical-exodus-story-is-fiction_b_1408123.html

    Going to a synagogue to worship a fictitious mass murderer like Moshe makes no sense.

    See: https://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible3.htm

    See: mosesneverexisted.zohosites.com

    If you believe you are a “Jew”, you are chosen to save your fellow brethren from this barbaric cult. Print the content in the above links or Dr. Harris’ quote at least and distribute it outside your synagogue on Sabbath. That is the best Tikkun Olam.

  2. Dutch Boy says:

    Republican Zionism is intended to attract Zionist money (e.g., Sheldon Adelson) and Christian Zionist votes. They are not going to reap a windfall of Jewish votes and I think they know that.

  3. It’s the bifurcation of the MSM into political & corporate PR machines and opposing, continuous campaigns instead of news stations, obligated to present both sides of the issues if not in a bland form that feigns neutrality in a debating style. People were more informed when the corporate-owned media were responsible / professional. Even CNN had people like Buchanan, elucidating the conservative side, so the left had a better idea of what the right was. Of course, most people now get their news from the internet, where it is easier to indulge the tunnel vision thing.

  4. If you believe you are a “Jew”, you are chosen to save your fellow brethren from this barbaric cult. Print the content in the above links or Dr. Harris’ quote at least and distribute it outside your synagogue on Sabbath. That is the best Tikkun Olam.

    https://hiphopza.com/download-kaygee-daking-bizizi-kokota-ft-killer-kau-audio/

  5. Ahh yes, Republicrats and Demopublicans. Which do you prefer and why? Which of the two ever sanctioned Israel during or after any of its war crimes, slaughtering over 1000 civilians at a time? Which one was it?

    Which one reversed the nation-wrecking legislation known as Hart-Celler, once its effects became obvious to everyone? Which one came out in opposition to “Race Replacement” making white people a despised minority in their own country?

    Which of these two great parties listens to (or cares about) actual citizens as opposed to billionaires? Alternately, which one doesn’t pander shamelessly to its partisans? Which one can be trusted to do what they promise? Which one again?

    (T)he incentives are in place for white Leftists and non-whites (to) make radical and ultimately impossible demands, on the theory that current immigration policy will anyway eventually Elect A New (non-white) People, whom they will lead.

    This would have been a perceptive observation in, say, 1969.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  6. Anonymous[741] • Disclaimer says:

    Do the Evolution! (Pearl Jam, 1998) Eddie Vedder has even called it his person favorite. Separate geography (NY:TelAviv or City:Rural) means different environment leads to natural selection. Not very surprising. Same thing happens to the peppered moth in a very short years during the Industrial Revolution’s filthy air.

  7. Miro23 says:

    But there is already a massive split between Leftist and conservative American whites. Indeed, they are becoming two entirely separate peoples, incapable of even viewing the same event the same way (as the controversy over Covington Catholic showed).

    Something to keep in mind is that these conclusions apply against the background of an economy that is hollowed out but still keeping afloat (on a sea of credit).

    If the dollar goes – which is likely (debtor nations don’t provide the world’s reserve currency for long) – then the US is in for some serious inflation. High inflation destroys the middle class (i.e. whites) so what will their opinions be when their property and capital has gone?

  8. I wonder how a distribution on pretty much the same issues as that 2017 graph would have looked a long time ago, say, I dunno, 1859…

  9. Anon[142] • Disclaimer says:

    The positon of the Republican median line in the 2004 graph is obviuosly mistaken. Such a pretty graph … but I think you need to fix it.

  10. There’re no such thing as “American Jews” or “Israeli Jews”. There are only Jews.

    • Replies: @Thinker
  11. Anon[329] • Disclaimer says:

    White democrats tend to be wealthier and more geographically isolated, and thus ignorant or perhaps even delusional in their understanding of race relations in the United States (Ben & Jerry’s types). Alternatively, they are located near diverse populations in big cities, but still culturally and geographically isolated, and thus they have developed something akin to Stockholm syndrome. Ultimately, I think white Democrats will breed themselves out of the population and the republican party will become full on the de facto white party. When interracial couplings are taken into account (and the fact that the offspring of such relationships nearly always consider themselves non-white), the white TFR of white liberals is around 1.2 and falling quickly. That’s about a 40% decline per generation. Wow. That’s why the democrats are desperate to steal elections through mass immigration: they are dying off at an astonishing pace.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  12. onebornfree says: • Website

    Israel is a just another beneficiary of the massive, unconstitutional, US welfare system.

    Israel cannot stand on its own two feet, but is apparently almost entirely dependent on US welfare handouts to make its economy “work”!

    In short, the State of Israel is just another scum-sucking welfare recipient, really no different from the typical individual US citizen [ or illegal immigrant] sucking on the giant teat in their US government provided housing.

    Solution:

    End all US government welfare programs NOW.

    That is:

    for any/all US and foreign individuals, for any/all US or foreign corporations , for any/all “scientific research”[or whatever] and for any/all foreign nations, including Israel which gets either $38 million per year in US handouts. [ or is it $38 billion?- can’t be bothered to look up the real numbers right now, it really makes no difference as to what the actual numbers are, after all, its really all about the handing out of stolen money, and who gets it, ultimately.]

    And lets not forget the welfare system called the US “education” system, and even the Pentagon, for that matter .

    And I’m sure I’m missing many other examples of US government handouts that can easily be classified as welfare handouts- heck, almost all US government employees are, essentially, nothing more than scum-sucking welfare recipients.

    Regards, onebornfree

  13. onebornfree says: • Website

    onebornfree says: “And I’m sure I’m missing many other examples of US government handouts that can easily be classified as welfare handouts”

    Here’s a couple more examples: the US National Parks , the US infrastructure [roads, bridges, interstate highway systems, power grid systems etc.].

    Regards , onebornfree

  14. @Anon

    329

    Why are white Democrats always wealthier than Republicans?

    Why do white GOP hicks go on about “Self-reliance” and “no taxes” and then end up needed welfare more than socialistic hippies of the “Ben & Jerry” variety?

    • Replies: @epochehusserl
    , @Anonymous
  15. onebornfree says: • Website
    @onebornfree

    onebornfree says: “And lets not forget the welfare system called……the Pentagon, for that matter.”

    “US Army Colonel: Pentagon’s Latest China Report A “Budget Ploy” To Bleed The Taxpayer”:
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-10/us-army-colonel-pentagons-latest-china-report-budget-ploy-bleed-taxpayer

    “Six Ways to Curb America’s Military Machine”
    http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176558/tomgram%3A_william_astore%2C_ending_the_pentagon%27s_long_con/

    Regards, onebornfree

  16. Left or Right, Jews are tribal and bad for America. If there is any hope for America, it is to restore white demographics and culture. Jews aren’t a part of either, and are a major enemy to both. I’d rather Palestinians live with Jews than Americans are saddled with them. Force Jews to live in Palestine whether they want to or not, since they have done so much to destroy America with their double-standards, hostility towards whites, corrosiveness, and treason for Israel. I don’t care if Jews experience another expulsion. They deserve it!

    Sooner or later Americans are going to wake up to the fact that it is us or them. And those young Jews who supposedly don’t support the Jewish establishment will likely grow to be just like their parents. Whatever they are, they aren’t likely to support my interests.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  17. @onebornfree

    You can’t compare Americans, even the the sorriest, benefiting from tax dollars to foreign citizens stealing tax dollars and forcing the U.S. taxpayer to support wars for their benifit, with the help of their treasonous citizen tribe members. Those are two very different things, and if you got rid of the mafia Jewish elite, maybe everyone else would take a different view of the role of government, and of corruption.

    It’s us or them.

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @onebornfree
  18. MLK says:

    But there is already a massive split between Leftist and conservative American whites. Indeed, they are becoming two entirely separate peoples, incapable of even viewing the same event the same way (as the controversy over Covington Catholic showed).

    This is conventional wisdom at the moment. “We’re watching different movies.” Yes, people see what they want to see, and they get to where they wanted to go reasoning-wise. But I think these polling questions/answers on race/race discrimination are surrogates for the partisan split on Obama’s presidency, and not just on race relations/reconciliation.

    White Democrats are never going to admit, even among or to themselves I suspect, that the beneficiaries of the first black president was a narrow lot: elite white Democrats; gays; and illegal aliens.

    Not blacks (beyond the Talented Tenth).

    The third question above was read and answered by whites as would you rather Obama was still president.

    Blacks are unique in American life. Our electing the first black president was a big deal. Now that he’s left office white Democrats still think they can lord it over what Republicans. They’re Good Whites and Republicans are Bad Whites . . Because Obama.

    The Democrats attempted Plug-N-Play First Woman President in 2016. Since then the country has had to deal with that narrow lot (Elite White Democrats) acting like Big F*cking Babies (BFBs).

    They’re angry at those whites who voted for Obama twice voting for Trump. So angry and such BFBs, they think they’re going to get them back in 2020 if they declare them either racist or too stupid to know they voted for one. They’re just as angry at all the other elements of Obama’s twice winning Coalition of the Fringes for not holding together and turning out. They’re allowed to express this toward white women, not Hispanics and most especially not blacks.

    With hope, and as I think increasingly likely, POTUS Trump will win reelection in a landslide. Elite White Democrat (and Allied Media) behavior since 2016, will be seen as a sad, bizarre chapter in history.

  19. “THIS LAND IS OUR LAND!!!!”…….Ian Stuart Donaldson…

    The LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE of America does not belong to the Hindu……the Sihk…..The Han…..The Paki Muslim…..the Korean….The Nigerian…..The Jamaican…..

    White Republican Party Voters need to be confronted with the following question:

    JUST WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE UP…..

    FOR BEING VOTED INTO….

    A….WHITE RACIAL MINORITY WITHIN THE BORDERS OF POST-WHITE AMERICA….?

    A Civil War in America in 2019 is a RACE WAR……….it will go full-blown hot soon enough….

    The split between White Liberals and Conservative Whites is over the homo norming of America….If the subhuman White Liberals win…..PEDERASTY BECOMES NORMALIZED…..currently…White Liberals are buying tickets to see THE SUBHUMAN PEDERAST ROCK STAR PETE TOWNSHEND and his enabler Roger Daltry who are on tour…..

    The ALT RIGHT is a response to:

    1)THE PASSAGE OF THE 1965 NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN EXTERMINATION ACT

    2)THE HOMO NORMING OF AMERICA….

    3)HOMO-PEDERAST…Hillary Clinton…..WAR OF EXTERMINATION AGAINST CHRISTIAN RUSSIA…….

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Sunshine
  20. Agent76 says:

    May 30, 2018 The Occupation of the American Mind

    Over the past few years, Israel’s ongoing military occupation of Palestinian territory and repeated invasions of the Gaza strip have triggered a fierce backlash against Israeli policies virtually everywhere in the world — except the United States.

    March 1, 2019 PCHR: “Israeli Forces Wound 83 Civilians, including 23 Children, Woman, 3 Paramedics, and Journalist, In Gaza”

    On Friday evening, 01 March 2019, in excessive use of force against peaceful protesters on the 49th Friday of the March of Return and Breaking the Siege, Israeli forces wounded 83 civilians, including 23 children, a woman, three paramedics, and a journalist, in eastern Gaza Strip. The injury of three of the wounded civilians was reported serious.

    http://imemc.org/article/pchr-israeli-forces-wound-83-civilians-including-23-children-woman-3-paramedics-and-journalist-in-gaza/

    January 02, 2018 Gaza : Looking Into The Eyes Of Barbarism

    Short documentary, shows the human rights violations suffered by the people of the Gaza Strip. – Warning – Video depicts the reality and horror of life as endured by the people of Palestine.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50865-c.htm

    • Agree: wayfarer
    • Replies: @annamaria
  21. A repeat of the 2000 POTUS election….statistical dead heat…the vote recount….flip-of-a-coin…….Trump declared POTUS….THE RACE WAR COMMENCES!!!

  22. KenH says:

    If Fitzpatrick is subtlety trying to tell us that because American Jews are splitting from Israeli Jews that the former aren’t a problem or are less of a problem than leftist American whites (moving further to the anti-white fringe) he would be wrong. Even though there might be a genuine and growing schism between American and Israeli Jews the former are still insanely hostile towards white American “deplorables” and have convinced a considerable number of whites that the disappearance of the white race and destruction of Western civilization by any means is a noble pursuit.

    For it is American Jews, largely via their ownership and control over the TV and print media, who provide virtually all of the talking points and fake narratives that leftist whites rely upon to justify racial masochism and hatred of their fellow whites. If not for this them there would be smaller degrees of ideological separation between the average white liberal and white conservative as in 1994 and 2004 instead of the growing chasm we see today.

    (((They’ve))) succeeded in making almost 40% of whites just like themselves and a lot of leftist whites are now pseudo Jews.

    American Jewry’s survival strategy is to foment intraracial division, hatred and self hatred among whites while promoting racial pride and unity among non-whites.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Grace Poole
    , @Thinker
  23. @Rational

    And I suppose the New Testament isn’t a tissue of contradiction? Hah!

  24. @KenH

    In this lecture on Theodor Herzl, ( @ 14 min) Prof. Henry Abramson contrasts the attitudes of earlier E. European Jewish immigrants with those who came later — earlier E. European Jews migrated voluntarily and were eager to fit in to American life; later Eastern Jews felt they were refugees and forced to migrate, and were determined to change America to suit their preferences:

    The Eastern European Jews Abramson is talking about are today’s neocons or their children.

    • Replies: @Gefreiter
  25. Hamas is a Mossad front to give Israel the excuse to bomb the hell out of Palestinians and kill men , women and children and is a Palestinian holocaust!

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  26. Thinker says:

    Wishful thinking. As people age, they become more conservative. Eventually these “young Jews” will reach middle age and they too, will become staunch Israel supporters like Alan Dershowitz, Chuck Schumer, Dennis Prager, Ben Shapiro…

    The only time America can be freed from this “special relationship” with Israel that’s killing us is when all Jews are expelled from the US, regardless of age.

    • Replies: @mark green
  27. Thinker says:
    @Rational

    Liberal Jews have left Judaism long ago. Most liberal Jews are secular, yet continue to identify as Jewish. Why? Because their real religion is holocaustianity. The holocaust keeps the Jews united as the forever victim group, so they can continue to reap the benefits of their victim status to all eternity, or until the western world collapses into a smoldering heap.

  28. @jeff stryker

    because white democrats work for the government

  29. Thinker says:
    @joeshittheragman

    There’re no such thing as “American Jews” or “Israeli Jews”. There are only Jews.

    Spot on!

  30. onebornfree says: • Website
    @OilcanFloyd

    OilcanFloyd says: “You can’t compare Americans, even the the sorriest, benefiting from tax dollars to foreign citizens stealing tax dollars ..”

    Yes I can. And do. It’s all about stolen money and who gets it- end of story.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  31. onebornfree says: • Website
    @DESERT FOX

    DESERT FOX says: “Hamas is a Mossad front to give Israel the excuse to bomb the hell out of Palestinians and kill men , women and children and is a Palestinian holocaust!”

    Hmm. Thanks, I hadn’t considered that angle before. Now I don’t know what to think! 🙂

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  32. Thinker says:
    @KenH

    (((They’ve))) succeeded in making almost 40% of whites just like themselves and a lot of leftist whites are now pseudo Jews.

    Yep. Most of my white extended family and friends are so afraid of being accused of anti-Semitism they are afraid to even utter the word “jew”, as if it’s a four letter word. Jews have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams in beating white guilt into whites through a combination of trumping up the tall tale of holocaust and their stranglehold on our media, academia and the judiciary.

    Forget bombs and fighter jets, the Holocaust is the most powerful weapon ever invented.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    , @anon
  33. @onebornfree

    It is well known as Ron Paul has said it and Steve Pieczenik a former under secretary of state has said it and various others and on the site beforeitsnews on the home page is a report by Jim Stone on this, and Jim Stones site is Jimstone.is.

    The Mossad has Hamas sending missiles into Israel which gives the Israelis the excuse to bomb Palestine and Hamas makes sure nothing of value is hit in Israel but then Israel goes full bore against Palestine in their goal of genocide against the Palestinians.

    If anyone does some research , they will find this is a fact!

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  34. @onebornfree

    In short, the State of Israel is just another scum-sucking welfare recipient, really no different from the typical individual US citizen [ or illegal immigrant] sucking on the giant teat in their US government provided housing.

    Additionally, really no different from any individual or entity that owes its existence to the government such as the typical specially privilieged corporations, especially government contractors, and government bureaucrats.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  35. @Johnny Walker Read

    Vote all you want and the flight plan doesn’t change; they’ll continue to crap all over everything in sight, including the voting saps.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  36. wayfarer says:

    “Truth About Anti-Semitism.”

  37. @Thinker

    Forget bombs and fighter jets, the Holocaust is the most powerful weapon ever invented.

    Yup. It’s like some kind of ‘smart’ bomb that only targets white goyim.

  38. @Jacques Sheete

    Mark Twain said, if voting made a difference, they wouldn’t let us do it, and Stalin said, it’s not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  39. @onebornfree

    Then it’s a bad comparison.

  40. Gefreiter says:
    @Grace Poole

    I fast forwarded to 8:00 and listened for about one minute before I turned it off. This Abramson is just another lying jew. There was never assimilation of jews, there was only exploitation, long before WWII. Jews brought the slaves, owned the plantations and started the war of northern aggression. During the war, Grant was almost crushed by Jewish Power when he banned jews from his area of battle. It turned out the jews were not only pillaging the suffering civilians, but also the troops, both northern and southern. Of course after the war the jewish carpet baggers and the rich international jew plantation owners were able to make deals that would make Donald Trump blush. Great fortunes were made by jews during the war and after. The goyim got Andresonville and gangrene.

    Later, jews got even more bold, especially with Bugsy Siegel and Meyer Lansky during prohibition. Of course there was also the Leo Frank child murder in the ’20’s. I recently ran across this other case of jews preying on the people who they claimed to be a member of:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_and_Loeb

    [MORE]

    Nathan Freudenthal Leopold Jr. (November 19, 1904 – August 29, 1971) and Richard Albert Loeb; June 11, 1905 – January 28, 1936), usually referred to collectively as Leopold and Loeb, were two wealthy students at the University of Chicago who in May 1924 kidnapped and murdered 14-year-old Bobby Franks in Chicago. They committed the murder—characterized at the time as “the crime of the century”—as a demonstration of their perceived intellectual superiority, which, they thought, rendered them capable of carrying out a “perfect crime”, and absolved them of responsibility for their actions.

    Nathan Leopold
    Nathan Leopold was born on November 19, 1904 in Chicago, Illinois, the son of Florence (Foreman) and Nathan Leopold, a wealthy German Jewish immigrant family. A child prodigy who claimed to have spoken his first words at the age of four months, he reportedly scored an intelligence quotient of 210, though test results from that era are not directly comparable to scores on modern IQ tests. At the time of the murder he had already completed an undergraduate degree at the University of Chicago with Phi Beta Kappa honors, and planned to begin studies at Harvard Law School after a trip to Europe.

    Richard Loeb
    Richard Loeb was born on June 11, 1905 in Chicago to the family of Anna Henrietta and Albert Henry Loeb, a wealthy lawyer and retired vice president of Sears, Roebuck & Company. His father was Jewish and his mother was a Catholic. Like Leopold, Loeb was exceptionally intelligent. Though he skipped several grades in school, and became the University of Michigan’s youngest graduate at age 17, he was described as “lazy”, “unmotivated”, and “obsessed with crime”, but also well-dressed and handsome,

    Wiki never really tells us that these two psychopath jews murdering 14 year olds were also queer, at least until they mentions movies about the murder:

    In his book Murder Most Queer (2014), theater scholar Jordan Schildcrout examines changing attitudes toward homosexuality in various theatrical and cinematic representations of the Leopold and Loeb case

    The point here is that long before WWII jews were becoming bolder in practicing their perversions on goyim. Hollywood would also make a solid case refuting Abramson’s claim that the bad jews came after the war.

    I would also mention that in the Giraldi thread I discussed how during the middle ages only Ashenazi jews were required to wear the Judenhut (jewish hat) and wear a yellow circle. I find this very important and it relates back to this video clip by Abramson, who is likely an Ashkenazi jew.

  41. I saw this comment on one of the Russian-language threads:
    My Jewish friend asked me how Russians feel about Jews. I told him that they feel about Jews exactly like Jews feel about Russians. He answered: “I knew they are Anti-Semites”.

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
  42. annamaria says:
    @Agent76

    “Thus the neocon website The Federalist recently published a remarkable article entitled “The Moral Case For Israel Annexing The West Bank—And Beyond,” in which “radical containment or expulsion” is advocated for the Palestinians in order to preserve the Jewish state [by Jason Hill, April 16, 2019].”

    There is a simple and elegant solution: All loyal supporters of the Jewish State should relocate to the Jewish State, both the zionists and evangelicals. Let them live their dream. Those zionists and evangelicals that refuse the relocation should be named the traitors to the Jewish State; this would make the Jewish Lobby obsolete. Enough of racial games and profiteering schemes already.

  43. @Thinker

    Yes, Kirkpatrick is being a bit disingenuous here. The ‘divide’ he alludes to involving young Jews and old is something of an inter-generational trick. It’s called ‘Fool the Goyim’ 2.0.

    Young Jews in the new (anti-racist) West commonly start out their adult lives as ostentatious, radical egalitarians. This pose keeps their goyish friends off balance, on board with their agenda, and even under their spell.

    But once these idealistic young Jews leave college and start earning money, they pull a switcheroo, joining the great kosher establishment; be it in Hollywood, Wall Street, or in the corporate world. Jews (young and old) thoroughly enjoy the countless perks and entitlements of being part of the Jewish establishment. These privileges keep them united.

    This generation of young ‘critical-of-Israel’ Jews will eventually shed their deceptive ‘universalist’ skin and end up as full-blown neocons or pro-Zionist liberals. I witnessed the same phenomena in the Sixties. Radical-Left Jews later became ardent Zionists.

    Ironically, these crypto-tribalists never tire of despising and, when possible, punishing any expression of (white) solidarity which they invariably denounce as ‘Naziism’. Their hypocrisy is nothing short of breathtaking.

  44. @DESERT FOX

    It’s hard to say what is Hamas and what’s the usual false flag bullshit, needless to say we only hear one side.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  45. Anonymous[411] • Disclaimer says:
    @jeff stryker

    Same reason the natives who got beads and blankets to sell out their own kin were wealthier than the moral ones.

  46. @onebornfree

    In short, the State of Israel is just another scum-sucking welfare recipient, really no different from the typical individual US citizen [ or illegal immigrant] sucking on the giant teat in their US government provided housing

    .

    almost all US government employees are, essentially, nothing more than scum-sucking welfare recipients.

    It’s obvious that you believe that people on welfare actually enjoy it. I won’t deny that a very small percentage do, just as as very small percentage of employees steal from their employer. As for government employees, other than those who have been political appointments, and I use that in the broadest sense, most just go to work every day and do their jobs, which someone has decided needs to be done. I put more value in a government employee’s work than any POS in Wall Street playing the big casino with your future, making obscene amounts of money, even when they lose, and bearing no responsibility for the havoc created.
    Communism is the perfect answer for you. Everyone works and there is no welfare. Not only does everyone work – where they are told to work – and no welfare, no one pays taxes. Perfect! Of course, no roads get built and everyone uses public transport and consumer goods are virtually impossible to get, but hey, at least you aren’t paying taxes and providing welfare.
    People on welfare are the victims of the corksuckers in Congress who, for the past 60 years, worked hard to dismantle US industry by allowing offshoring and “free trade”, US nationalism (replaced with jingoism) and replaced loyalty to the electorate with greed. There is plenty of money to be made from welfare, it’s a gravy train for moneyed interests. The rampant drug and alcohol abuse among long term welfare recipients is connected to depression. The overwhelming majority of people, even those on welfare, want meaningful work which provides dignity. As long as Congress continues to accept any immigration while employable people are unemployed, they betray the American people. Immigration is the reserve army of capital.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  47. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

    “Why are white Democrats always wealthier than Republicans?”

    They aren’t. The average republican is both smarter and wealthier than your average democrat. The difference is that we aren’t immoral psychopathic hypocrites like you losers who hide away in white neighborhoods while simultaneously decrying racism.

    “Why do white GOP hicks go on about “Self-reliance” and “no taxes” and then end up needed welfare more than socialistic hippies of the “Ben & Jerry” variety?”

    Why do Ben & Jerry’s fags complain about white hicks but 1) vote with a black demographic that has a net worth of $5 and sucks up disproportionately more of every resource while contributing nothing in return? 2) hypocritically run from the same diversity policies they promote? Example: Ben & Jerry’s fags moved their operation to the whitest state in the country; do they have a problem with Buffalo? 3) fail to realize that it’s probably easier to make a living in a crime-free whitetopia like Vermont than it is in a place like Baltimore; but I doubt a Ben & Jerry’s fag like yourself would know about that. Enjoy your picket fence and high home value as it keeps out the minorities I’m totally sure you’d be fine with letting your daughter date.

  48. anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

    “And I suppose the New Testament isn’t a tissue of contradiction? Hah!”

    Enjoy your 1.2 TFR loser.

  49. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Anon

    Anon[362] • Disclaimer says: “…….The average republican is both smarter and wealthier than your average democrat. The difference is that we aren’t immoral psychopathic hypocrites like you losers …….”

    Hah! Dream on sucker:

    The “Real Conservatives” and Their Corporate Welfare Scam:

    “Scratch a conservative candidate for Congress and this is what you usually find below the surface: a Welfarist. Try to find justification for corporate welfare in the Constitution. Good luck. A typical conservative may shower praise on the Constitution and the original intent of the Founders, but he somehow misses the point when it comes to shoveling huge amounts of government budget money on to corporate tables. To put it another way, he wants to be known as a pure priest of Original Intent, but he’s actually a whore. And, to put a cherry on the cake, all his life he’s assumed bullshit is the only reliable product in the marketplace. Maybe that’s why he wears such a big grin in public. Maybe that’s why his clothes and his hair and his tone of voice keep screaming FAKE…..”

    The stone cold conservative socialist
    https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2019/05/09/the-stone-cold-conservative-socialist/

    Regards[?] onebornfree

  50. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Curmudgeon

    And yet another government indoctrinated totally confused commie dunderhead raises his/her ugly head 🙁

    As if I give a crap whether or not government welfare recipients “enjoy” being on welfare or not.

    No regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Anon
  51. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Emma Goldman once said [ a rough quote, can’t be bothered to look up the original wording]:

    “If voting actually made a difference, it would be illegal.” [ or words to that effect.]

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Anon
  52. @Bill Jones

    Well as far as Israel goes Hamas is a false flag ran by Israel and Ron Paul and a lot of others have said Hamas is a Mossad front and Israel supplies the rockets Hamas and Hamas also is hand in glove with Al Ciada aka ISIS which is a creation of the CIA and the Mossad and MI6.

    The CIA and MI6 are ran by the zionists and MI6 is controlling the CIA and the Mossad, read the book The Committee of 300 by John Coleman and ex MI6 officer and see his videos on youtube.

  53. Anon[235] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    She was a wise person, clearly.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  54. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:

    The Jewish religion has a single goal and reason for being.

    That goal is the Jewish Messianic period, which is defined by de facto world conquest. There is evidence in the Jewish texts that this period is also defined by the genocide of all non-Jews.

    Without the goal of the Messianic period, the Jewish religion ceases to exist as a practical matter.

    This goal defines the religion because it is the religion’s only true content. All of the law is toward bringing this goal to fruition. The entire point of Israel is the goal.

    It follows that both Zionist and anti-Zionist Jews look to accomplish this goal as long as they identify as Jews. The only way to abandon seeking that goal is to disown Judaism.

    Therefore it further follows that Jews disowning Israel without disowning Judaism is a hollow gesture.

    The only politically or theologically meaningful gesture for anti-Zionist Jews is to abandon Judaism.

    • Replies: @Gefreiter
  55. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    Which is why Monarchy was variously disempowered and destroyed in favor of democracy.

  56. @Anon

    How can he have a daughter if he’s a fag?

  57. @onebornfree

    Now there’s a reference with heavy statistical and intellectual weight to substantiate your “arguments” – somebody’s personal blog. Sad.

  58. Anon[243] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    Legitimacy aside for your specific arguments, being conservative and liberal has nothing to do with economic policy because politics has nothing to do with economic policy except by proxy (how can economic policy help my interest group or hurt my enemies in any specific situation?).

    Politics is rooted in ethnic unity and cooperation because that’s how the strongest and most lasting form of political power is generated. Nothing else compares.

    Most Blacks are conservative in a way because they prioritize ethnic interest when in sociopolitical combat with other ethnic groups.

    Where they quickly fall apart, and why they will be forever ghetto losers is because they quickly revert to ultra-selfish behavior at the community level when not in combat with another ethnicity and therefore when there is no outside resources to gain through group alliance.

    Black liberals and White liberals are contemptible for different reasons. White liberals psychologically abandon their own for an ideal of universal cultural dilution and destruction. Its contemptible, but at least its morally consistent (most of the time) because gentile White people tend toward universal moral consistency for equal classes of people. They wish for total deconstruction of all modern groups (however unrealistic and accounting for their spinelessness that keeps them from attacking the politically protected in the open).

    What Blacks and Jews have in common is their willingness to abandon moral consistency for a better political edge. Nationalism for me but not for thee. To attack thee, we will vote for the liberal while still emphasizing and prioritizing the material benefit of our racial ethnic group. That’s more contemptible because it is less universally moral.

    Where Jews get it strategically correct within the context of their universally immoral strategy, and again where Blacks get is so wrong, is that Jews do not often make the mistake of prioritizing the individual Jew over the group. Jews gain the resource spoils of their inter-group warfare and use them to advance community interest. Blacks embezzle / squander those same resources.

    Its interesting and humorous how the moral values difference between Blacks and Jews is so razor thin and yet the group results are forever as wide as the Mississippi.

  59. anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rational

    Leftist Jews abandoning Israel is only what Kevin MacDonald called ‘Boil-off’, it usefully gets rid of the less committed.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  60. @DESERT FOX

    Since onebornfree has fallen asleep at the wheel, and forgot to quote Nock, here we go…

    “The vote that seats our President, our Congress, our State and municipal officials, is simply a carte blanche, or rather, something in the nature of a letter-of-marque. How can an intelligent citizen be expected to take interest in the conduct of politics under these conditions?”

    -Albert Jay Nock, What the American Votes for, The American Mercury, February 1933, pp. 176-182

  61. @onebornfree

    … but he somehow misses the point when it comes to shoveling huge amounts of government budget money on to corporate tables.

    Yup.

    The type benefits from “welfare” on both ends. If it were not for the profits involved, there would be few handouts to anyone, least of all the little guy.

    And regarding their lip service to the constitution, the whole system is fraudulent from top to bottom and it was designed that way.

    PS: Even Curmudgeon gets part of it.:

    There is plenty of money to be made from welfare, it’s a gravy train for moneyed interests. The rampant drug and alcohol abuse among long term welfare recipients…

  62. @Anon

    Here are quotes from some other wise women regarding the voting scam.:

    Blind and deaf, yet even Helen Keller understood the scam. Note the dates.

    “Our democracy is but a name. We vote? What does that mean? It means that we choose between two bodies of real, though not avowed, autocrats. We choose between Tweedledum and Tweedledee.… “

    -Helen Keller, Letter published in the Manchester Advertiser (3 March 1911), quoted in A People’s History of the United States (1980) page 345.

    “Are not the dominant parties managed by the ruling classes, that is, the propertied classes, solely for the profit and privilege of the few?
    They use us millions to help them into power. They tell us like so many children that our safety lies in voting for them. They toss us crumbs of concession to make us believe that they are working in our interest. “

    -Helen Keller, OUT OF THE DARK, LETTER TO AN ENGLISH WOMAN- SUFFRAGIST* Copyright, 1907

    “…the major political parties have not represented a real political issue since the 1860s. These parties have not stood for opposite political principles; they have differed only about methods.”

    -Rose Wilder Lane, Give Me Liberty 1936,1954 p49

    “Well…whether they were Democrats or Republicans, [they] were willing to do anything to help each other. They were all in the same boat, regardless of party, and so they made rules and did things to help each other get elected…”

    -Jeanette Rankin, interview, 1972 (Published 1974) http://texts.cdlib.org/view?docId=kt758005dx

    Rankin, running as a Republican Progressive, was the first woman voted to congress and was the only congressperson to vote against US entry into WW1. She was also the only one to vote against the war against Japan after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

  63. Gefreiter says:
    @Anon

    Excellent comment 184. It arrives at at the same conclusion I have long tried to reach by a completely different path.

    I have tried to argue that there is no such thing as a “good jew” because all jews benefit from Jewish Privilege (Talk about assault rifles, how about the power of proclaiming “anti-semite” in order to ruin an opponents life) and Jewish Power. All jews will unite with their tribe when push comes to shove.

    I have tried arguing by questioning how can an Atheist jew living in Israel justify his countries theft of Palestinian lands, and their murder, based on some ancient “covenant” with a god that they deny exists.

    But I find your rational superior and will plagiarize it in the future.

    • Replies: @anon
  64. annamaria says:
    @anonymous

    The attention should be focused on certain locals and their high treason: “Bolton Wins Defender Of Israel Award.”

    US National Security Adviser John Bolton was presented with the Defender of Israel Award at the Zionist Organization of America’s annual Brandeis Award dinner, held Sunday night in New York.

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/john-bolton-wins-defender-of-israel-award-from-zionist-lobby-group/251729/
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/zionist-organization-of-america-gives-john-bolton-defender-of-israel-award/
    “Background to Treason,” by Pierce:

    Louis Brandeis (1856-1941), an enormously wealthy and successful Boston lawyer, was the son of Jewish immigrants from Bohemia. He was also the leader of the Zionist movement in the United States. …

    Brandeis became the first Jew to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court, and he did so without giving up his informal post as counsel to the President and general political “fixer,” as recent research has revealed…

    Since the Second World War, any criticism of the Jews has been taboo, and even the historical scholars have feared to tread on ground where their discoveries might reveal the Jews in a a bad light. The consequences of this cowardice have been very costly indeed.

    Brandeis as the loyalist to Israel first and foremost: https://www.wrmea.org/1996-august-september/middle-east-history-justice-brandeis-was-the-savior-of-zionism-in-america.html

    While Brandeis’s vision of Zionism was unrealistically idealistic, he would achieve what probably no other Zionist could have. He became instrumental in gaining the support of the United States for a Jewish state in Palestine. Brandeis accomplished this feat by using his friendship with President Woodrow Wilson…

    Unlike Jews who embraced the melting pot, Zionists openly rejected assimilation. Alienation lay at the heart of Zionism, as explained by Theodore Herzl when he first formulated its purpose and aims in early 1896 in his seminal pamphlet Der Judenstaat…

    It was from Brandeis’ time that American Zionists began a concerted effort to link American ideals and interests with a Jewish state and thereby establish a mutual [?!] identity.

    It is the rot from within that makes the US a colossus with feet of clay

    • Replies: @anon
  65. anon[316] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thinker

    Yep. Most of my white extended family and friends are so afraid of being accused of anti-Semitism they are afraid to even utter the word “jew”, as if it’s a four letter word.

    this used to be me too – i would go to the trouble of using “jewish people” instead of jew because i was aware that “jew” was sometimes a slur, but who’s fault is that?

  66. anon[316] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    The attention should be focused on certain locals and their high treason: “Bolton Wins Defender Of Israel Award.”

    US National Security Adviser John Bolton was presented with the Defender of Israel Award at the Zionist Organization of America’s annual Brandeis Award dinner, held Sunday night in New York.

    what a toady

    how do you show your face as an American “statesman” after winning an award like this from a foreign country?

  67. anon[316] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gefreiter

    I have tried to argue that there is no such thing as a “good jew” because all jews benefit from Jewish Privilege

    exactly

    and ironically this is what they accuse you of having – “privilege”

    in this country that mostly whites built and yet are only #3 in salary. we know who’s #1 in salary but they claim they earned their exorbitant salaries and whites didn’t earn their average salaries

  68. KenH says:

    The schism between American Jews and Israeli Jews is just a family quarrel. It hasn’t weakened Jewish power in America or Israel’s strangehold on the U.S. Congress and oval office. By contrast, the widening split between right of center American whites and “woke” whites is dividing our political power when we need it most and collectively weakening us in the face of existential threats.

    American Jews don’t hate Israeli Jews, but they do hate American whites. American Jews aren’t calling for the abolition of Jewishness or for Israel to import a million or so racially, culturally and religiously alien people. Or to solve the intractable Middle East conflict between Jew and Arab Muslim by mass cross breeding as they urge the white and black populations in America to partake in.

    Leftist Jewish professors aren’t chanting that treason to Jewishness is loyalty to humanity.

    I’ll take the Jewish schism a little more seriously when I see all the above occurring.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @Corvinus
  69. @KenH

    KEN ?

    While I can understand some African Supermodel marrying David Bowie because he is a rich famous artist, I cannot for the life of me understand why white women get involved with blacks who lead borderline (At best) criminal lifestyles and so often the woman is left as a single mother.

    Are these white women fools?

    And how many Jewish girls marry black males who have no money, limited prospects, a drugs-and-dangerous friends high-risk lifestyle?

    Why don’t whites in America simply imitate Jewish Americans? To begin with Jewish Americans never have kids out-of-wedlock or have kids with whiggers or black thugs. The average Jew is 30 years old before they start a family. Why not go to pursue education like Jews do? Why not learn about the power of money? Why believe the garbage Hollywood puts out? Jews themselves clearly don’t believe it?

    This is what is puzzling.

    • Replies: @anonymOUS
    , @KenH
  70. Corvinus says:

    “Paradoxically, the GOP actually has a far more consistent commitment to Israeli nationalism than it does to American nationalism.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “Thus The Federalist recently denounced the “Alt Right” for “racist bile” and declared there is no connection between it and Respectable Right figures like Shapiro”

    That is correct.

    “Few on the Dissident Right accept the term “Alt Right” today because it’s so smeared and so associated with specific individuals.”

    The Dissident Right and the Alt Right are one in the same, make no mistake about it.

    “The Sailer Strategy often discussed here at VDARE.com argued that the GOP needed to win a larger share of the white majority in order to remain competitive in national elections.”

    That strategy was actually created by Nixon and put into place by Reagan. He is taking undue credit.

    “This amounts to a Cold Civil War among American whites. Whites who feel they are under attack are more conservative”

    There COULD be this “Cold Civil War:. SOME whites feel as if they are under attack.

    “while whites who feel embarrassed about their identity are more eager to undermine their own group for individual advantage and perceived moral superiority.”

    Assuming that indeed a large majority of whites are embarrassed about their identity. Perhaps the author here is undermining this group for his own individual advantage and perceived moral superiority.

  71. Corvinus says:
    @KenH

    “American Jews don’t hate Israeli Jews, but they do hate American whites”.

    That would be a broad generalization.

    “By contrast, the widening split between right of center American whites and “woke” whites is dividing our political power when we need it most and collectively weakening us in the face of existential threats.”

    Perhaps the “woke” whites are out of touch with their white counterparts, that normies are making their own decisions about race and culture, as they should. They are simply exercising their liberty, especially Christian whites who put God ahead of racial/ethnic identity. If this mindset is a problem for you, how do you address it?

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    , @KenH
  72. anonymOUS[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @jeff stryker

    And how many Jewish girls marry black males who have no money, limited prospects, a drugs-and-dangerous friends high-risk lifestyle?

    The extensive criminal and drug abuse history of Parkland school suspect Nikolas Cruz’s biological mother could be a key factor in whether he is sentenced to die for the massacre that killed 17 people, legal experts and officials say.
    The mother, 62-year-old Brenda Woodard, played no role in Cruz’s upbringing after giving him up for adoption after he was born. But her past, which included a crack cocaine purchase arrest while she was pregnant with Cruz, will almost certainly be brought up for a jury considering whether he should live or die.

    “It is not necessarily her past, but how her past contributed to his genetic makeup,” said David S. Weinstein, a former state and federal prosecutor now in private practice. “Her use of drugs and alcohol while she was pregnant with him, and how her genetic makeup was passed on to him.” https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-reg-nikolas-cruz-biological-mother-20180905-story.html

    In one post about his biological mother, Cruz said: “My real mom was a Jew. I am glad I never met her,” according to CNN. He also said that he hated Jews because he believed they wanted to destroy the world. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/242098

  73. Corvinus says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    “A Civil War in America in 2019 is a RACE WAR……….it will go full-blown hot soon enough….”

    Soon enough, as in next year? A decade from now? 50 years in the future?

    What WILL remain constant, however, is that you will sit on the sidelines due to your impotence. See, you talk a big game, but when it comes down to it, you just don’t have the stomach to actually do something substantial about it. Of course, the Trojan Horse has already spilled its contents, and all you and others here are lament that “The danger is before us…but we have to wait before the time is right to strike at them”. It’s always a waiting game for you.

    You’re really not fooling anyone here.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  74. Don’t believe the act.

    They oppose Trump on everything, ostensibly because he’s Trump. And also to make it seem that there really is division. If he, or any other President, got harsh on Israel every jew in america would round on them as a block in that nation’s defence.

    The old two man con.

  75. KenH says:
    @jeff stryker

    I cannot for the life of me understand why white women get involved with blacks who lead borderline (At best) criminal lifestyles and so often the woman is left as a single mother.

    That wasn’t the case before 1965. Then a white girl or woman who engaged in such behavior would risk familial and social ostracism, so the pre-1965 social order kept white women who may have been disposed to go mud sharking in check. Plus there was de jure segregation in the American South and de facto segregation in the North.

    But the (((cultural revolution))) changed all that. Forcible school racial integration combined with the breakdown of the white nuclear family and (((Hollywood))) brainwashing that depicts white males as evil, venal and oppressive gives you a percentage of white girls who are willing to date congoid losers for a variety of reasons.

    • Replies: @mark green
  76. @KenH

    Hi Ken. You are definitely On Target. The sixties ‘Civil Rights Movement’ along with decades of mesmerizing Hollywood propaganda since have forever altered the course of our European-derived civilization.

    As America’s White, heterosexual, Christian establishment has declined post 1965, an anti-White, Zionist-centered and queer-friendly one has emerged. Our loss is their gain.

    It should also be noted that even though (((Hollywood))) does incessantly glamorize black/white miscegenation and romance (in numbers that exceed its actual rate), Israeli filmmakers do no such thing in the ‘democratic’ Jewish State.

    In Israel, Arabs–if not behind walled ghettos–are kept purposefully invisible, even though the percentage of Arabs in Israel exceeds the proportion of blacks in America.

    It’s worth noting that in wonderful, progressive Israel, any media glamorization of Jewish-Arab romance is strictly taboo.

    Despite poses to the contrary, Jews treasure their separateness, their dedication to racial continuity, their self-proclaimed excellence, and their putative genetic superiority.

    At the same time, they work tirelessly undermine ours.

    • Agree: KenH
    • Replies: @Miro23
  77. @Corvinus

    “Perhaps the “woke” whites are out of touch with their white counterparts, that normies are making their own decisions about race and culture, as they should. They are simply exercising their liberty, especially Christian whites who put God ahead of racial/ethnic identity.”

    I believe this is an astute, perceptive and accurate statement. Some are taking “the long view”.

  78. KenH says:
    @Corvinus

    Perhaps the “woke” whites are out of touch with their white counterparts, that normies are making their own decisions about race and culture, as they should.

    Woke whites have just swallowed all the anti-white propaganda that’s been fed to them by the schools, the (((MSM))) and (((Hollywood))). Their decisions about race and culture have been made for them and they’ve passively and uncritically accepted it, but see themselves as super smart and forward thinking. Their worldview consists of a list of daily talking points provided by one of the many ultra left wing and anti-white shamans on CNN, MSNBC or far left wing websites.

  79. Miro23 says:
    @mark green

    It should also be noted that even though (((Hollywood))) does incessantly glamorize black/white miscegenation and romance (in numbers that exceed its actual rate), Israeli filmmakers do no such thing in the ‘democratic’ Jewish State.

    In Israel, Arabs–if not behind walled ghettos–are kept purposefully invisible, even though the percentage of Arabs in Israel exceeds the proportion of blacks in America.

    It’s worth noting that in wonderful, progressive Israel, any media glamorization of Jewish-Arab romance is strictly taboo.

    Despite poses to the contrary, Jews treasure their separateness, their dedication to racial continuity, their self-proclaimed excellence, and their putative genetic superiority.

    At the same time, they work tirelessly undermine ours.

    It’s actually a Bolshevik style “Class War” where the “Class Enemy” are Whites defined as a group.

    Rather than being “Capitalist exploiters”, “Enemies of the Working Class”, “Reactionary Elements” etc. they are now “Racists”, “Xenophobes”, “White Supremacists” etc. – but it’s the same idea ( they’re the previous holders of power) – with the difference that they’re now ethnic White European Americans, rather than middle class ethnic Russians.

    The advantage from the USJM (United States Jewish Mafia) POV is that whole classes of opponents can be removed without having to deal with individual cases.

    At present it’s in the late verbal/media/social exclusionary stage, but it’s preparing the ground for the destruction of the US’ previous white power holders through harsher laws, heavier penalties, transportation and mass imprisonment/re-education.

    Bolshevik Russia eventually saw resistance from their “Whites” but it was too little, too late and badly coordinated. Also, the newly defined “Proletariat” was confused with extravagant promises about a new Workers Paradise (run by elite Workers representatives – the Bolshevik Jews themselves).

    If things follow the game plan – US whites have a good chance of becoming the New Palestinians in their own country – and most of them still don’t have a clue about what is happening.

  80. @KenH

    What are the top 5 to ten dotpoints of Western white culture that you and others on this thread may be presumed to see as desirable but threatened, or even destroyed in America?

    I ask, perhaps naively, because seeking to legislate against abortion doesn’t even seem to many white Westerners as even belonging to the modern world. Capital punishment has long been regarded as abhorrent in all modern Western countries except the US so one has to ask whether that rather obvious difference in what Western civilisation may mean to people with equal claims to be its heirs is simply to be treated as a practical utilitarian way of America dealing with its unique black problem. (Yep, I’m making a bad joke).

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  81. @KenH

    KEN H

    If this is true, why the mad scramble of whites out of Detroit and Flint (I’m from Southeast Michigan)?
    If Jews were the driving force of the 1980’s Civil Rights movement at a time when they were the hated ghetto minority who owned the liquor stores and pawn shops in black areas…why did they rush out of the inner-cities during the Watts and Newark and Detroit riots to be replaced as Korean and Arab shopkeepers.

    Why the huge influx of Lutheran, Baptist and even Asian-American pupils into Catholic schools because their parents don’t want them in public schools with black drug dealers who are 16 and still in the 9th grade or MS-13 who keep machetes in their locker?

    Do you actually believe that whites in Southeast Michigan or North Chicago or Los Angeles believe any narrative besides the reality that they or their families can be seriously injured or killed?

    How many Jewish female film producers involved in depictions of miscegenation onscreen would marry a black thug leading a borderline criminal lifestyle?

    How many New York City whites who watched DEATH WISH actually believe that crime is a result of Jewish muggers who look like Jeff Goldblum or that white criminals in Central Park target buff and mean-looking Polish ex-miners like Charles Bronson who look like their about to kill somebody?

    If white truly believe the “narrative” why do so many of them work day-and-night to live in suburbs to expensive for blacks or Hispanics?

    How many whites would have unprotected anal sex with a gay because they don’t believe that gay males spread AIDS?

    How many Jewish film producers in Hollywood want THEIR kids to attend a public high school in LA filled with Mexican gangs?

    • Replies: @KenH
  82. @Wizard of Oz

    WIZARD

    Listen to Richard Nixon’s tapes during the 1972 vote to legalize abortion. Our former president will tell you which children the voters in 1972 wanted aborted.

    It worked. In the 1990’s with a recession and drug use high the US was bracing itself for those born after 1972 to go on a crime spree.

    It never happened because that poor generation had been aborted. Crime dropped dramatically in the 1990’s.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  83. Corvinus says:
    @KenH

    “Woke whites have just swallowed all the anti-white propaganda that’s been fed to them by the schools, the (((MSM))) and (((Hollywood))).”

    That is what you desperately want to believe. However, that would mean, what, tens of millions of whites are easily duped? I thought they had high IQ’s and high time preferences? Nay, these whites are more than capable to choose for themselves what path they will take individually and collectively. It just upsets you that they have this liberty.

    “Their decisions about race and culture have been made for them and they’ve passively and uncritically accepted it, but see themselves as super smart and forward thinking.”

    According to YOU. The reality is that they choose. Again, it really makes you mad that they have this freedom.

    “Their worldview consists of a list of daily talking points provided by one of the many ultra left wing and anti-white shamans on CNN, MSNBC or far left wing websites.”

    Your worldview consists of a list of daily talking points provided by one of the many Alt Right and whiten nationalist shamans.

    See how that works, friend? Tit for tat, right? Are you smitten by your own confirmation bias?

  84. @jeff stryker

    Yes. An idea which was featured in a very readable book by a couple of economists including one Chicago school academuc from memory but I also remember Steve Sailer writing a fairly persuasive rebuttal of the case that Roe v. Wade saved America from a wave of criminality. I recall the fluctuation in crack cocaine use – or maybe ice – had something important to do with outcomes according to Steve.

  85. Sunshine says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Absolutely a fantastic comment. And I like your name. My grandfather was a coal miner. I grew up hearing the stories.

    White people have a right to exist in our own lands. This is not up for debate or discussion. We have a right to exist!

  86. KenH says:
    @jeff stryker

    Do you actually believe that whites in Southeast Michigan or North Chicago or Los Angeles believe any narrative besides the reality that they or their families can be seriously injured or killed?

    Both leftist whites and Jews are guilty of rank hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance regarding blacks and race in general. Sure, most realize that blacks are dangerous (but would never admit it) but these are also the same people who will blame alleged white racism and alleged discrimination for the pathologies and character defects of black people instead of negro DNA.

    There’s been plenty of whites who’ve been maimed or killed because they haven’t learned that blacks are dangerous and unpredictable or don’t want to be “racist” and stupidly put themselves in a dangerous black environment or deliberately fail to take the necessary precautions.

    If white truly believe the “narrative” why do so many of them work day-and-night to live in suburbs to expensive for blacks or Hispanics?

    And why do 40% of whites vote for a political party that hates their race and is now filling up with non-whites who hate them and wish to do them harm if they don’t believe the narrative that whites are the epitome of evil?

    How many Jewish film producers in Hollywood want THEIR kids to attend a public high school in LA filled with Mexican gangs?

    Oi Vey! Don’t you know that Jews are the master race and only they have the right to racially exclusive neighborhoods and schools or at the least hoods without the blacks and latino underclass? Racial integration is for the goyim who only exist to serve Jews. If you try to integrate a Jewish neighborhood then that’s the same as gassing six million Jews. At minimum you will have your Facebook, Twitter, Paypal and Instagram accounts terminated for being aunty-semitic. But try to forcibly integrate an all white neighborhood and you’ll become an instant hero and media darling.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  87. @KenH

    KEN H

    I know of no exclusively Jewish neighborhoods that say “Jews Only!”. To my knowledge none exist. Jews usually self-segregate through earning power but where there are Jews there will be other upper middle-class whites. For example, lots of Jews live in Long Island but then so do many Irish-Catholics and Italian-Americans as well. There is always animosity between Blacks and Jews in Brooklyn. Always. Remember the Crown Heights Riots?

    Whites who are racially integrated are those that do not have the earning power to live somewhere that blacks and Latinos cannot afford to. Living in low-income housing, attending lousy public schools etc. But this is largely a matter of earning power and lack of earning power always puts whites in proximity to blacks and Latinos. I know this from personal experience.

    Bush was the one who trashed the United States as we know it, not a Democrat. Bill Clinton ran a fairly good economy in the nineties. I was born in 1974 and was a youth in that decade and it was Bush II who flushed the US down the toilet. So that is one reason some whites voted Democrat.

    Jews as the “master race”? Well Muslims and Asian-Americans don’t think so. It is only whites who feel that Jews are some sort of white elite-which they are to a degree. But this is only money and media. Other groups like Asians or Muslims don’t care, so they are unaffected.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  88. Is this a real report? I think this will not remain the same until 2020.

  89. KenH says:

    I know of no exclusively Jewish neighborhoods that say “Jews Only!”

    Just like I know of no neighborhoods that say “white only” or “blacks only” or “Hispanics only” yet white, black and hispanic neighborhoods do exist. If you don’t see a sign that says “Chinese only!” does that mean that Chinatowns don’t exist? Get real.

    But nevertheless there are exclusive Jewish neighborhoods around the country and Jewish communities and enclaves within larger majority white cities and counties. If Jews think racial integration is so wonderful and expect white goyim to mix with everyone then why don’t they subject their own living spaces and daughters in America to a little diversity and multiculturalism? Instead we get segregation for (((me))), but integration for thee.

    Bush was the one who trashed the United States as we know it, not a Democrat. Bill Clinton ran a fairly good economy in the nineties.

    Reagan ran a fairly good economy in the 80’s which Clinton benefitted from in the 90’s. Clinton signed NAFTA and spearheaded the effort to award China permanent normal trade relations which are two things that have virtually wiped out the white working class.

    Jews as the “master race”? Well Muslims and Asian-Americans don’t think so.

    Jews see themselves as a master race. No, Muslims and Asians don’t think so which is ironic given that Jews are trying to being both groups into the West en masse which will lead to a diminution of Jewish power.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  90. @KenH

    KEN H

    The reason whites don’t live in Hispanic or black neighborhoods is that they are internal third worlds.

    Whereas Jewish neighborhoods in New York city are full of Irish-Americans and Italian-Americans especially.

    The wealthiest Jews live in Beverly Hills surrounded by non-Jews who themselves are successful enough to afford to live there.

    Indeed Clinton signed those agreements and NAFTA. But it was during Bush’s presidency that the US really went into the toilet and he cannot be completely absolved of blame.

    As for seeing themselves as a master race, well, in order to be a master race you have to be perceived that way by others.

    Muslims, Hindus and Asians are not susceptible to the mass media and for some reason Christian whites are. I have no idea why.

  91. “Thus, there’s not really a debate about whether the Republican is an ethnonationalist party—it already is. But for Israel.

    But will the GOP ever be even a civic nationalist party for Americans?”

    The truth about the Republican Party, for those who can handle the truth.

    “The reason the Republican Establishment hates Dr. Paul is precisely that he is not a traditional, mainstream Republican, that his platform of freedom is an aberration. The Republican Party didn’t go wrong, it didn’t go left.

    It has been wrong from the beginning, from the day it was founded. From the beginning, the Republican Party has worked without deviation for bigger, more imperial government, for higher taxes, for more wars, for more totalitarianism. From the beginning, the Republican Party has been Red.”

    https://www.menofthewest.net/republican-party-red-start/

  92. The ONLY answer is 100% White nationalism. Now! Goal: a total apartheid all-White breakaway ethnostate, carved out of the dying carcass of an America which will never be made great again.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  93. Miro23 says:
    @Leon Haller

    The ONLY answer is 100% White nationalism. Now! Goal: a total apartheid all-White breakaway ethnostate, carved out of the dying carcass of an America which will never be made great again.

    You can sort of arrive there with local democracy.

    If power (tax, spending and decision making) is local (i.e. at country and state level) – then you would get a lot of small almost all White ethno states across the US.

    You would also get a fair number of almost all Black small ethno states in places like Mississippi, and almost all Latino small ethno states in places like Southern California, going towards making part of a loose North American Confederation.

    IMO, these small states, spending their own taxes and looking after their own affairs would work well, even the poorer Black and Latino ones.

    The key is that Washington would be removed from the picture with its Special Interest lobbies, debt finance, ME wars etc.

  94. anarchyst says:
    @jeff stryker

    There are whole jewish communities in New York state where those not of the jewish persuasion are actively discouraged from residing. Even the “public schools” are for “jews only”. Anti-discrimination and civil-rights laws are flouted with total impunity.
    Kiryas Joel comes to mind…

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