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We can’t have nice things in America for a lot of reasons. Crazy campus Leftists have criminalized conservative speech. Federal judges protect illegal aliens. Christophobes wage War on Christmas. But another reason: the decriminalization of petty crime because the punishment “falls disproportionately” on blacks. Hence the increasing toleration of fare evasion on America’s subways.

The latest municipality to jump (so to speak) on that train: Washington, D.C. City council just voted 10-2 to decriminalize fare evasion, the local news radio station reported, because “criminal penalties disproportionately affected African-Americans.” Unsurprisingly, the two votes against the idea came from whites, Jack Evans and Council Chairman Phil Mendelson (right) who correctly noted the insanity of the change without addressing its racial justification:

“When you don’t pay your fare at Metro, you’re stealing from Metro,” argued D.C. Council member Jack Evans, who is also Metro board chairman. What we’re doing is decriminalizing stealing.”

Citing an NBC Washington video in which fare evaders were caught on camera, Mendelson said, “I did not see poor people who were unable to pay. I saw younger people … who were quite brazenly jumping the turnstile. These were folks who were deliberately — without evidence of inability to pay — avoiding paying the fare.”

[D.C. Council votes to decriminalize Metro fare evasion, by Jennifer Ortiz, WTOP, December 5, 2018]

Got that? If blacks disproportionately violate laws or civilized standards, then the laws and standards must be amended or dropped to stop “disproportionate” punishment. Of course, the only reason blacks are “disproportionately” punished for fare evasion is that blacks disproportionately evade fares.

Unhappily, this capitulation of law and order is spreading. Hop aboard and take a ride through the cities that have addressed this cosmic injustice.

  • New York City:

Some city leaders wonder though—should turnstile jumping be a crime at all? “We’re making progress,” says City Councilman Rory Lancman, whose office has been advocating that fare evasion always be considered a civil offense, like a traffic violation that would result in a ticket, not a criminal record. He said that “arresting 10,000 people a year … is still 10,000 people too many.”

A Marshall Project analysis of New York Division of Criminal Justice Services data from 2014 through June of this year shows that … 89 percent of those arrested this year are black or Hispanic, virtually the same proportion since 2014.

[Subway Policing In New York City Still Has A Race Problem, by Anna Flagg and Ashley Nerbovig, Gothamist, September 12, 2018]

Treating fare evasion as a traffic violation might make sense. You pay a fine or show up in court to fight the ticket. That’s what they do in San Francisco and Oakland—where, of course, the blacks are complaining about even that. But total decriminalization because blacks don’t want to pay fares is a bad idea, not least because it further enshrines into law what Michael Gerson famously called the “soft bigotry of low expectations.”

  • Los Angeles

From 2012 through 2015 in the City of Angels, the Bus Riders Union complained to the U.S. Department of Transportation that black riders, 19 percent of bus and rail customers, received more than 50 percent of fare-evasion citations. Of course, Curbed Los Angeles reported, the complainers accused the city’s public transit system of “egregious discrimination against black people”. [Civil rights complaint alleges LA Metro, police target black riders: Black riders are disproportionately cited for fare evasions, complaint says, by Jenna Chandler, January 18, 2017]

Their findings, to cite Curbed verbatim:

  • Black riders accounted for 53 percent of all arrests in 2015, 58 percent of all arrests in 2014, and 60 percent of all arrests in 2013.
  • Each year from 2012 to 2015, nine to 10 percent of all fare evasion citations went to white riders, who comprise 13 percent of all riders.
  • From 2012 through May of 2016, Metro and the sheriff’s department combined have issued 455,388 citations. Of those, at least 48 percent went to black riders.

Hence the civil rights complaint, which would mean that free public transportation is a civil right.

Or at least fare evasion is.

  • Oakland and San Francisco

Oakland and San Francisco’s Bay Area Rapid Transit notoriously refuse to release surveillance videos to protect black and brown criminals from “racially insensitive commentary” [BART Withholding Surveillance Videos Of Crime To Avoid ‘Stereotypes,’ by Melissa Caen, KPIX, July 9, 2017]. Blacks are a majority of those banned from BART, you see, and we can’t have the good residents of Pelosiland get the wrong ideas [Two-thirds of people banned from BART are black — and agency isn’t asking why, by Ted Anderson, San Francisco Chronicle, July 8, 2018].

When blacks can’t exercise their right to a free ride, it’s Whitey’s fault:

African-American passengers are bearing the brunt of BART’s new fines for riders who fail to pay fares. …

BART in March began issuing tickets with $75 fines for adults and $55 fines for juveniles to crack down on fare evasion, which it says costs the agency up to $25 million a year in lost revenue. During a 14-day period in July — a relatively small sample but the only data BART provided in response to a public records request from this news organization — African-American riders received 41 percent of tickets issued, even though they make up only 12 percent of riders, according to a 2015 survey, the most recent available.

No other group faced such a wide disparity. White patrons received 23 percent of tickets, and made up 44 percent of riders. … Asian and Pacific Islanders made up 23 percent of passengers but received 5 percent of tickets.

And Hispanic or Latino riders, who made up 18 percent of passengers, received 10 percent of the tickets. Another 20 percent of people who received the tickets were labeled as “other” or “unknown.”

“It’s shocking,” said BART board Director Lateefah Simon.[Pictured right.] “It is, of course, very troubling.”

[BART’s fare evasion fines hit African-Americans hardest, by Erin Baldassari, The Mercury News, September 20, 2018]

What is troubling, Lateefah: some groups evading fares more than others.

  • Portland OR

Even in a city where only 6.3 percent of the population is black, standards must regress to the African mean. After all, standards maintain White Supremacy:

TriMet is issuing fewer warnings and citations to passengers for not paying to ride … but the transit agency struggles with repeatedly banning a handful of African American riders from the rails.

That was one takeaway from the second study looking at whether the tri-county agency’s fare officers are unfairly targeting passengers of color. …

ORDER IT NOW

Two years ago, TriMet’s first study on enforcement habits sparked numerous changes. TriMet may now lower the fine for fare tickets, direct riders to a low-income fare program if they qualify, or offer community service in lieu of a fine or criminal punishment. TriMet says it is the only transit agency in the nation to repeatedly study its enforcement habits and how they affect people of color. …

But one category showing an elevated disparity for African Americans is chronic fare evaders….

56 African American riders were banned from the MAX more than three times during the two-year period.

“In 46 percent of incidents involving African Americans, the rider involved had at least one other fare evasion during the two-year time frame,” Renauer said in a statement.

[Study: Chronic fare evaders pose challenge for TriMet, but ‘systemic racial bias’ unlikely, by Andrew Theen, The Oregonian, August 8, 2018]

  • Minneapolis

White Supremacy is rearing its ugly head in liberal Minneapolis, too. Ilhan Omar, the new congresswoman for the 67 percent white city, is a Muslim Somali immigrant who married her brother to commit immigration fraud. But the city’s racist whites are targeting its blacks with fare-evasion racism!

Blacks and American Indians are far more likely to be ticketed than warned by Metro Transit police for fare evasion, according to an agency review that unearthed “troubling” disparities….

Data collected from January 2014 through August involving 7,136 arrests and citations indicate that American Indians are 152 percent more likely and black adults are 26 percent more likely to be cited for first-time fare evasion than their white counterparts.

Indians are 93 percent more likely to be arrested rather than warned for all incidents than white adults. And black adults were 38 percent more likely to be arrested.

However, transit police appear to enforce more serious crimes consistently, regardless of race. …

[Transit officials] cautioned that “conclusions cannot be drawn about whether bias exists in police enforcement based on the data alone.”

“This study tells me that we have a problem,” said Metro Transit Police Chief John Harrington [Pictured right.] who admitted he “doesn’t have an easy or facile explanation how this happens.” Of the 100 full-time Metro Transit police officers, 35 percent are considered “diverse,” up from 5 percent just a few years ago.

Following the study and discussion with the Minneapolis NAACP, Metro Transit police agreed to issue warnings for first-time fare evaders, instead of immediate citations.

[Study: Minorities more likely to be cited by Metro Transit police for fare evasion, by Janet Moore, StarTribune, December 18, 2015. Emphasis added]

Actually, there is “an easy or facile explanation”–minorities simply evade fares more than whites.

Evading a fare, as the D.C councilman said, is theft. It’s petty theft, but it’s theft nonetheless. It must be punished.

If not, consequence-free petty crime becomes another new entitlement for minorities in what’s left of the United States of America.

And yet another reason why we can’t have nice things—such as safe public transit.

Paul Kersey[Email him] is the author of the blog SBPDL, and has published the books SBPDL Year One, Hollywood in Blackface and Escape From Detroit, Opiate of America: College Football in Black and White and Second City Confidential: The Black Experience in Chicagoland. His latest book is The Tragic City: Birmingham 1963-2013.

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  1. Christo says:

    I would bet the rates for assault, sexual assault, rape, and murder show far more disproportionate rate of black participation than mere fare jumping/evasion. Surprised Mr. Kersey did not bring those numbers up , as they are far less affected by any transport officer digression . All serious crimes (I would hope) are investigated and either a suspect identified and/or arrested on the spot. Such figures would pale far evasion as real crime, but they would support that yes, blacks are committing more crime on public transport . Plus I would have liked to see the ‘real”(with victims) crime figures, just for my proven conformation bias , and for later reference.

    • Replies: @Jazz
    , @niteranger
  2. Many years ago, in NYC, I was busted getting on and riding between two cars of the Number 6 (Lexington line, Upper East Side to Downtown), because at rush hour that was the only way to get on a train without waiting through five or six trains to finally get on one. Doom on me. But insult to injury was when the two cops marched me off the platform and up to next to the turnstiles to write the ticket so that all the incoming passengers could see a guy in a suit being busted for “obviously” jumping the turnstile. Justice being seen to be done, so to say.

    BTW, the charge was ultimately dropped.

  3. Yes, but whites are committing more–and more serious–crimes abroad: white America has killed an average of 1,000 foreign civilians every day since 1946. That’s gotta count for something.

  4. anon[210] • Disclaimer says:

    BART’s fare evasion fines hit African-Americans hardest

    even when they’re stealing, they’re the victim

  5. anon[210] • Disclaimer says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    too bad they didn’t kill you

    • Replies: @anon
  6. @Godfree Roberts

    You are exactly right. But the lovely readers on here can’t keep two things in their minds at once. They think that fare evasion is worse than murder until told different by their owners, then they change back again when their owners tell them to.

    And look at the lovely comment by the Rocket Scientist you got. This place is full of monsters just like that, whom this website eggs on in their utterly braindead sociopathy.

  7. Hail says: • Website

    Washington, D.C. City council just voted 10-2 to decriminalize fare evasion

    Downtrends in the 2010s:

    (1) Down: the Black population of most parts of Washington, DC proper (moving principally to Prince George’s County, Maryland, as prices rise with ongoing gentrification, which got going about the early 2000s in earnest and has by the late 2010s transformed much of the city proper into an expensive, bubble-world SWPLtopia);

    (2) Down: faith in, and ridership of, the Washington DC Metro system, a system controlled by Blacks who constitute a huge majority of its employees; ridership is reportedly steadily down due to the poor performance of the system compared to any in Europe or ‘even’ Asia, “a Third World subway beneath a First World City”;

    Reasonable observers have been saying that (2) is, no two ways about it, a serious problem (for a metropolitan area of 6 million with hundreds of thousands more jobs downtown than residents of the District proper) — that is, if people avoid using the system and fare revenue keeps declining, the spiral downwards may be unable to be stemmed. Others think (1) is a serious, ‘moral’ problem, that Blacks deserve majority-status in Washington, D.C. (a status they secured through the riots of 1968) and their out-migration is a small tragedy.

    Most would profess to believe both (1) and (2) are serious problems. But what if one must be chosen over the other? Which concern wins?

    • Replies: @Jett Rucker
    , @ia
  8. KenH says:

    To determine whether a law is just or not we have to determine how it affects blacks and if blacks disproportionately break any given law then according to (((received wisdom))) it is a bad and racist law that is rooted in “white supremacy.” The day isn’t far off when we rewrite the penal code to benefit blacks or set quotas on arrest and incarceration rates for black savages who belong in a zoo instead of walking among civilized human beings.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  9. Anon[300] • Disclaimer says:

    This is great news for rapists and murderers in America. Since those crimes are disproportionately committed by blacks then soon those offenses will be decriminalized, too. Then everyone can rape and murder with impunity – except whites, of course. Enjoy the slippery slopes!

  10. Tusk says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Ignore the CCP agent everyone…

  11. Edwin says:

    Two metrics that would be easy to tally:

    1. What are the profiles of people arrested on transit systems for other crimes (not fare-beating)?
    2. Did those people pay the fare (before being arrested)?

    It seems a fair guess that not prosecuting fare-beating invites other criminality into transit systems, and this would certainly go a long way toward finding out.

  12. athEIst says:

    We can cut the districts deficit by removing turnstiles(expensive things no doubt). Those who feel like paying can throw whatever they feel like paying into buckets which the police(now freed from writing tickets) can collect.

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  13. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    Shades of Rosa Parks! We’ve come a long way from sitting in the back of the bus, haven’t we?
    I wonder if she evaded her fare, that day long ago in Montgomery? Or if her grandchildren are doing so today, in cities across this (and other?) nations?
    I remember the Italian adage: Only fools pay on the bus.
    Henceforward, non-black fare evaders will be (racially) discriminated against.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  14. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @Hail

    There are subway systems in other American cities. How does DC Metro compare with these? In fact, what is your source? It appears you have read some magazine article or perhaps scholarly investigation.
    We’d love to see it. It sounds fascinating. Or did you just make up the comparisons yourself?

    • Replies: @ia
  15. Paulbe says:

    @Godfree Roberts
    So, no Blacks or Hispanics in the US Military (I assume that’s your reference), just Whites doin’ all the wet-work? Must have been shadowy mirages I saw in the last joint exercises here in Northern Australia.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Truth
  16. The figures for the crime from the San Francisco Bay Area’s subway system reveal another aspect of the problem:

    ‘… African-American riders received 41 percent of tickets issued, even though they make up only 12 percent of riders, according to a 2015 survey, the most recent available.

    No other group faced such a wide disparity. White patrons received 23 percent of tickets, and made up 44 percent of riders. … Asian and Pacific Islanders made up 23 percent of passengers but received 5 percent of tickets…’

    The percentage of blacks among those ticketed is three times their ridership, the percentage for whites is about half their ridership, and the percentage for Asians is just over a fifth of their ridership.

    Following out the logic that the high proportion of blacks ticketed is evidence that they are victims of racial discrimination, it would seem that gross favoritism is being practiced on behalf of Asians.

    But why? I’m baffled.

  17. The figures for the San Francisco Bay Area are also interesting in another respect.

    Blacks seem to be about eight times as likely as non-blacks to commit this form of crime.

    That’s also true of more serious offenses, such as rape, robbery, and so on. Moreover, roughly the same ratio holds in other countries that have a large black population, such as Great Britain. This in spite of the fact that Britain sourced her negroes in a completely different manner than we did.

    A propensity for criminality would seem to be truly inherent among blacks. That, of course, has implications for what kind of social policy would be likely to accomplish anything. If we treat blacks the same as everyone else either (a) we police everyone as if they were as prone to crime as blacks, or (b) we continue to enjoy what freedoms we have left, and just accept black crime. Of course, one’s feelings about that would depend on how recently one has been mugged, shot, robbed, or raped.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @danand
  18. @KenH

    ‘…set quotas on arrest and incarceration rates for black savages who belong in a zoo instead of walking among civilized human beings.’

    De facto, these quotas are already in place. A friend of mine was a victim of a rather convoluted crime that amounted to assault in Berkeley, Ca. Long story, but that’s not the point.

    The police would not arrest the perpetrators — and frankly told him that they had to avoid arresting too many blacks.

  19. @Paulbe

    ‘@Godfree Roberts
    So, no Blacks or Hispanics in the US Military (I assume that’s your reference), just Whites doin’ all the wet-work? Must have been shadowy mirages I saw in the last joint exercises here in Northern Australia.’

    Didn’t you notice how all our military activity came to a complete halt when we had a ‘black’ president?

    Admittedly, he wasn’t much of a black, but still…

  20. @obwandiyag

    ‘…This place is full of monsters just like that, whom this website eggs on in their utterly braindead sociopathy.’

    It really is ironic. It seems that you call someone or everyone stupid in every single one of your posts — yet you’re definitely one of the dimmer bulbs around here.

    Are you black?

  21. Got that? If blacks disproportionately violate laws or civilized standards, then the laws and standards must be amended or dropped to stop “disproportionate” punishment.

    Remember that looney hero Rand Paul proposed that all such laws be stricken from the books. Announcing his presidential candidacy in 2015, he declared: “I see an America where criminal justice is applied equally and any law that disproportionately incarcerates people of color is repealed.”

    Meanwhile, also note that all of the stats in the present essay understate the real case, since transit cops–black, white, latino–all go out of their way to avoid the appearance of racist enforcement. This means that they let a ton of black and latino crime slide by while pouncing upon the rare white perp. So-called criminal justice in our courts system is much the same way. But they can only do so much, faced as they are with a daily avalanche of ‘diverse’ crime.

  22. US citizens are born to commit crime. It is their genes.

  23. Wally says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    “Yes, but whites are committing more–and more serious–crimes abroad: white America has killed an average of 1,000 foreign civilians every day since 1946. That’s gotta count for something.”

    Proof?

    Nope.

    BS?

    Yes.

  24. Wally says:
    @obwandiyag

    Naturally you ignore real crime stats and race.

    Naturally you ignore sh-thole Africa.

  25. scumbag says:

    Since fare nonpayment got decriminalized in D.C.’s metro, you can expect people to slowly stop paying (initially), and more and more to not pay as time goes by.

    They will eventually have to do something like give everyone licenses to ride the subway (or chip any would-be riders), and those claiming to be poor will get a free pass. Otherwise, in a few years, hardly anybody will pay.

    “Racial Communism” is all this really amounts to. Instead of lumpenproletartiat, proletariat, petit bougeois, bougeois, and aristocrats we simply have the different races that all have to be equally wealthy, successful, and happy which is, of course, a ridiculous societal expectation.

  26. It seems to be the same anywhere.
    An Armenian mother with two childred applied for asylum in the Netherlands.
    Armenia is considered to be a safe country, so she was rejected.
    But, using the Dutch system for free legal assistance for poor, she managed to stay here for some ten years, with the children.
    After ten years she was evicted to Armenia, but the children still were here.
    Of course, in these ten years, they had ample opportunity to assimilate, what they did.
    When it was announced that nevertheless they would be brought to Armenia, public oproar.
    The children were allowed to stay, and the mother, who had been in Armenia for two years, was given permission to stay in the Netherlands indefinitely.
    This is the way we destroy ourselves.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  27. @Godfree Roberts

    Apparently you are unaware of a certain tribe that has had a disproportionate influence on American foreign policy since around 1946.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Truth
  28. Realist says:

    Diversity Is Strength! It’s Also…Fare Evasion

    This statement capitulates to diversity…agreeing that diversity is strength.

  29. @Godfree Roberts

    That’s close to 27 million. Please justify.

  30. There were a couple of high-profile fare arrests here in Los Angeles last year that had the bleeding hearts ululating their well-rehearsed cries for “justice” or whatever. The incident which especially had our local press in an uproar was one involving a female high school student—Hispanic, in case anyone was wondering. She not only jumped the Red Line fare, but also decided to spread out across two seats during a packed train in rush hour, and denied an elderly lady’s request to free one of the seats up for her. An LAPD officer happened to get on her train at MacArthur Park Station, noticed the situation, and apparently simply asked her to free up the seat. When she refused, he asked her to present her TAP card (i.e. proof of fare) and ID. Not only did she refuse, but she began berating the police officer. Left with no choice, the officer proceeded to arrest her, at which point someone began recording the unfolding scene on their phone.

    With her guilt so clearly displayed, one would think that would have been the end of it. Instead, the cameraman and others in the train joined the girl in heaping invective upon the officer and added that his arresting her for a crime she clearly committed was a grave injustice and that, at any rate, she was but a tender wee lass of 18 with nary an understanding of right and wrong. To compound the matter, the girl proved quite recalcitrant, making strenuous effort to avoid being physically removed from the train, even as her antics caused significant delays for her fellow passengers. The cop extracted her after much hoopla, but not before having himself unwittingly made the star of the “social injustice of-the-week”, and having been spat upon by another female passenger (who was also arrested) for good measure.

    The arrest quickly made its way to the LA Times front page and they, predictably, excoriated the police officer for not “de-escalating” the situation. Curiously, they offered no insight as to how he could have de-escalated anything with an individual who was guilty of a crime and refused to obey orders. By the next morning, just as predictably, the LAPD offered a meek apology, and dropped charges against both the fare evader and the other woman that spat on the officer.

    Ever since then, LAPD rarely shows up on the trains, and even when they do, they no longer check fares. (Los Angeles County Sheriffs handle sections of the rail system that venture outside the city limits and they do their job even worse.)

    While not as bad as trains in NYC or—heavens forfend!—San Francisco, traveling through the Los Angeles Metro train system can be like navagating one’s way through a homeless hostel/mental asylum on rails. There are certain lines which are best avoided at all times of day, like the Blue Line which perhaps not coincidentally also happens to go through South Central. But even the Gold Line, once upon a time rather quiet, has taken a turn for the worse. And on the underground Red and Purple Lines one is treated to the full panoply of the rich cultural diversity that we enjoy here in certain quarters of our fair city, with the sight of people openly injecting themselves with drugs, performing fellatio upon each other, or simple defecating in the aisles or seats not an uncommon sight.

    In response to all this Metro has done—nothing. Although, to be fair, even if they did, they and their partners in law enforcement would be met with legal opposition every step of the way. (Such as occurs during the occasional homeless sweeps.)

    And for those “blue lives matter” types who are surely finding themselves in paroxysms of despair over the mistreatment of the aforementioned brave boy in blue, take heart. Our law enforcement agents were notoriously incompetent at dealing with crimes on the trains anyway. Officers would usually pass on citing homeless or colorfully urban types even when they had no proof of fare. And then the local press wonders why on-train sex assaults and thefts have been on the rise.

  31. @obwandiyag

    “Exactly right”. Well how do you justify the figure of 27 million foreign civilians killed by America (white Americans) or since 1946?

    • Replies: @Per/Norway
    , @Colin Wright
  32. One of the most de-humanizing experiences is riding on the transit system in Chicago, especially when on the Red Line. There one will see first hand hooded black thugs robbing and assaulting people (mostly white and chinese) with impunity. This has been going on for several years and it’s getting worse.

    When the State’s Attorney for Cook County releases (and doesn’t charge) two black carjackers just days after committing their failed crime, you know lawlessness is at work in the city that works — against you.

  33. eah says:
    @anon

    Fare evasion and politically correct cowardice in dealing with it is one thing — another is (for those unfamiliar) how BART rips off taxpayers and everyone who does pay the fare — one example:

    BART janitor grossed $270K in pay and benefits last year

    Keep in mind that’s just one example — in the SFBA, BART is absolutely notorious for its extremely high personnel cost structure, and its tolerance of outrageous overtime practices.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Anon
  34. anarchyst says:
    @Jett Rucker

    Rosa Parks was not the “ordinary” black woman that so-called historians made her out to be. She was an organizer for the NAACP and was “planted” in order to advance the cause of black “civil-rights” to which she was successful.
    Approximately a year previous to Rosa Parks’ “bus ride” and refusal to vacate her seat, a REAL ordinary black woman did the same thing. This black woman received NO publicity or support from the NAACP or other black “civil-rights” organizations. You see, she was an unmarried black woman with children. According to the black civil-rights crowd, this would not do. They wanted someone who was “squeaky clean” without any “baggage”. In fact, the “white guy” sitting behind her was part of the “set-up”. He was a UPI reporter, contracted to “stage” the event…not only that, in the photo there is no one else on the bus. Ms. Parks could have sat wherever she wanted.
    Hence, Rosa Parks made (fabricated) history . .

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
    , @eah
  35. Whitewolf says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    The Jews run America not Whites. The foreign wars are a result of Jews pushing for them and benefiting from them. Along with their ethnostate of Israel.

    White haven’t run America since 1913 and probably lost effective control long before that.

  36. guitarzan says:
    @anon

    Criminals as victims. Seems to be a theme running through history.

  37. onebornfree says: • Website

    “Evading a fare, as the D.C councilman said, is theft. It’s petty theft, but it’s theft nonetheless. It must be punished.

    If not, consequence-free petty crime becomes another new entitlement for minorities in what’s left of the United States of America.

    And yet another reason why we can’t have nice things—such as safe public transit.”

    What do you expect, fer chrissakes?

    This just in: ALL public transportation is a criminal scam funded directly via stolen money[taxes] .

    In other words, these public transportation companies are themselves funded by direct theft.

    The free-rider problem will never be solved by criminal monopoly public transportation systems that have zero incentive to deal with the problem- they get paid automatically, no matter how crappy/inefficient their service is.

    Get government out of all so-called “public” transportation. Fully privatize [not fake “privatize” via the granting of exclusive monopoly power], all current public transportation by allowing full competition of privately owned transportation companies competing for customers.

    Then, free-riders [and other problems] are only the problem of the private company owners, to be dealt with by them alone.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  38. TheJester says:

    “Bad money drives out good money … and, once sacralized, bad culture drives out good culture.” It was predictable: they did not become like us; we became like them.

    Fifty-four years of government-enforced integration, affirmative action, and disparate impact resolutions (fare evasion?) in the pursuit of racial equality … and it has come to naught. Indeed, Afro-American society is in worse shape in 2019 than it was in 1964. Anglo culture has experienced a similar downward spiral.

    We should have known better. Given the hopelessness of it all, when will this failed (and unconstitutional) experiment in the self-inflicted cultural and legal debasement of the United States come to an end?

  39. onebornfree says: • Website

    onebornfree said: “In other words, these public transportation companies are themselves funded by direct theft.”

    Just to be clear, fares taken in by these companies do not cover all operating costs.

    These companies nearly always run at a permanent loss, no different from any other part of a government.

    Regards, onebornfree

  40. @Godfree Roberts

    What does one have to do with the other?

  41. Got that? If blacks disproportionately violate laws or civilized standards, then the laws and standards must be amended or dropped to stop “disproportionate” punishment.

    Well, it seems to work that way for the money bags crowd with political connections and probably always has, and few got their undies bunched over the fact that, as the following examples show, go mostly unpunished if not totally unrecognized, so why get our panties in a twist over the small stuff?

    http://www.unz.com/video/rtamerica_how-jeffrey-epstein-avoids-his-accusers-once-again/

    It seems that Arnon Milchan is not only a big Hollywood producer but he also traded nuclear triggers with Israel and did a deal with Murdoch for $200 million.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/26/the-hollywood-big-shot-and-israels-nuclear-triggers/

    “The Israeli press is picking up Grant Smith’s revelation from FBI documents that Benjamin Netanyahu was part of an Israeli smuggling ring that spirited nuclear triggers out of the U.S. in the 80s and 90s.”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/netanyahu-implicated-in-nuclear-smuggling-from-u-s-big-story-in-israel.html

  42. @anon

    …even when they’re stealing, they’re the victim

    Any thoughts on where they got the idea?

    Hint: Eternal victims, chosen, etc…

  43. @obwandiyag

    This place is full of monsters just like that, whom this website eggs on in their utterly braindead sociopathy.

    Not only this place, but the whole wretched country is full of them, but hey, who can blame them, it’s “da culchurr!” You know, our “leaders” get virtual carte blanche to work their psychopathologies on “furners” (remember, Abu Ghraib and a few million other examples), and there are plenty of mouth breathing hoi polloi who support such monstrous behavior.

  44. @athEIst

    Those who feel like paying can throw whatever they feel like paying into buckets which the police(now freed from writing tickets) can collect.

    Whaddya say that we extend the concept to taxes as well?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  45. @Colin Wright

    A propensity for criminality would seem to be truly inherent among blacks.

    Do you even know what constitutes criminality?

  46. @Wally

    Um Wally, don’t you remember what the US did to the beleaguered folks of Germany a century ago? Those were not only hideous crimes, but completely unnecessary, and Uncle Schmell hasn’t stopped committing such crimes to this day.

    Were FDR and his Red buddies black?

    I suppose spraying subsistence level peasants from the air with disgusting poisons is something the angelic church choirboys do and is the Lawd’s work? Using WP on civilians, dropping nukes on defeated people, etc., etc., is just dandy?

    Godfree’s comment is goofy only in that he dated the crimes from 1946. He and others would do well, (maybe) to lift the curtain a bit higher.

    Anyone who thinks crime is a blacks only, or mostly deal, is using his head as a suppository.

    • Replies: @Wally
  47. @Wally

    Naturally you ignore sh-thole Africa.

    What about your failure to mention a major center of criminal operations, sh!_ _-holy Tel Aviv?

    PS: This is a comment site, not an on line encyclopedia.

    • Replies: @Wally
  48. @jilles dykstra

    This is the way we destroy ourselves.

    It’s a tiny factor no doubt, but “we” destroy ourselves in many other more significant ways such as by deferring to, or even supporting, murderous criminals in high places. Look at all the fools who voted for the mega criminals, Hillary, FDR, or any of the other bloody wretches, for instance. Only a destroyed populace could have done that.

    • Agree: Liza
  49. https://www.bfmtv.com/international/etats-unis-un-elu-cree-la-polemique-en-defendant-la-suprematie-blanche-1610127.html

    “Nationaliste blanc, suprémaciste blanc, civilisation occidentale. Depuis quand ce langage est-il devenu offensant?”, s’est interrogé cette semaine Steve King, élu de l’Iowa à la Chambre des représentants depuis 2003.

    “Pourquoi me suis-je assis dans des salles de classe où l’on m’a appris la valeur de notre histoire et de notre civilisation?”, a-t-il poursuivi dans un entretien au New York Times.

    Summary
    White nationalist, white surpremacist, western civilisation, since when is this language offensive ?
    Why was I at school where the importance of our history and our civilisation was taught ?

  50. @Wernermagnus

    Apparently you are unaware of a certain tribe that has had a disproportionate influence on American foreign policy since around 1946.

    Oh, c’mon! they’re viktums, doncha know?

    People get all agitated by petty crime, meanwhile their pockets are being picked and lives being ruined by the masters of the big time stuff. But hey, dem damm (mostly white) blacks is roonin us!!!

  51. Justice will be served on an unprecedented scale around the world, when the Confucian men takes over the throne and not enough white heterosexual man are around to pay for the welfare-systems/foreign-aid/relief-aid-schemes/maintaining the infrastructure of Western countries.

    May you all live in interesting times!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  52. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    the soft bigotry of low expectations is a white thing way to cerebral for dindus, youll never find a black pol choosing equality before the law over black privilege

  53. @eah

    Thanks for that. I was about to mention that the system itself, if typical of public works projects in the US in general, is part of a much larger criminal operation that makes the incidents described pitifully laughable.

    But no one should fear, Trump is here, and he’s going to wave his magic wand and MAGA.

    Distract, divide, and conquer. Works all the time.

  54. Talking of crime on public transport: the authorities in London appear to believe that sexual offences are being committed on the city’s Underground, and have issued a video which is part of a campaign to make the public aware of the problem. If you watch the video, you would conclude that there is an epidemic of incidents in which white men assault coloured women. I would have thought that the occasional frotteur on the Underground was a minor problem compared to the organised rape of British girls by Muslim men, and I see the video as a dismal indication of the priorities of the British government.

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2019/01/sexual-harassment-and-cultural-masochism/

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  55. Jazz says:
    @Christo

    You a absolutely correct in your comments about BLACKS AND CRIME. I absolutely am NOT RACIST. I was engaged to a black oerson and my very best friends are black people. However, these people who are black and close to me are people who STAND OUT FROM THE NORM of blacks in any and every nation in the world…..they are extremely hard working, educated, professionals who are astute, compassionate, and evy bit as critical…aka racist…..regarding people of their own skin color as am I……..and by that I mean they are not afraid to call a spade a spade! They readily acknowledge that their black brothers and sisters, no matter if in Africa, France, the EU or the USA are extremely violent people and are TAKERS.
    However, the “migrants as victims” culture, as endorsed by OBAMA, MERKel and the GLOBALIST PIGS, is a mantra that serves the long term aganda….to destroy western culture. Therefore, you will not see the black person held accountable for horrific criminal behavior, if there is any possible way to excuse it or avoid even admitting it.
    In my opinion, after 5 decades of studying this issue intensely, and living among the incredible group of responsible black people I know, it is my conclusion that black people need to be relegated to their continebpnt of Africa when they prove themselves unwilling to abide by the norms of civilized society. LET THEM SELF DESTRUCT THERE…..IN AFRICA.

  56. Agent76 says:

    Sep 21, 2018 How Ivy League schools can destroy American values

    Around three years ago, I stumbled upon a TEDx talk by Sharyl Atkisson, formerly of CBS News. She talked about a term unfamiliar to me then – “astroturfing” and the manipulation of the media. At the time, it was difficult to believe the extent of the psychological manipulation that surrounds us. It was also difficult to appreciate the courage this woman had to talk about it.

  57. eah says:
    @Nicolás Palacios

    For anyone interested:

    Her name is Bethany Nava — I’ve not seen it stated/confirmed that she hadn’t paid, only that she was being “loud and boisterous” and refused to take her feet off the seat when asked by the LAPD — anyone who’s ridden public transit in a ‘diverse’ area has seen and so can easily imagine the behavior — more interesting is that the arresting officer appears to be white, and the crowd who objected to the arrest (more cops came to the scene, a Hispanic woman was arrested for spitting at a cop) were probably all NAMs, although the guy who filmed the episode sounds like a faggy white guy.

  58. “And look at the lovely comment by the Rocket Scientist you got. This place is full of monsters just like that, whom this website eggs on in their utterly braindead sociopathy.”

    Yet, here you are !

  59. Well! Hell! How big effort is to make The barriers jump-proof? Not much!
    In principle: You do not educate wild animals, you put them into cages. (See any Zoo!)

  60. danand says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Blacks seem to be about eight times as likely as non-blacks to commit this form of crime.

    That’s also true of more serious offenses, such as rape, robbery, and so on.”

    Colin, Maybe 8X the population of the SF Bay Area, where both “white” and black people are relatively rare. But the official US fed numbers for Rape, Robbery, etc…, from a decade ago; no longer published as succinctly in the post Bush Jr, were:

    Crime Rates (non hispanic white)

    6.3X Black
    3.2X Hispanic
    1X White
    .19X Asian

    As Jesse used to say, pray the person comming up behind you is Asian.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  61. onebornfree says: • Website

    Paul Kersey said : “And yet another reason why we can’t have nice things—such as safe public transit.”

    You want socialized public transportation systems, [as well as gawd only knows what else] ?

    You got it – so get over the inevitable results of yours and [most] others infantile, reality defying dreams of how it all “should” work, and deal with how it all actually does “work” in the real world.

    You want it, you got it. Get over it.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  62. Ever notice how when you’re trying to concentrate on something, and there’s a loud obnoxious noise coming from somewhere behind you, how it makes that task more difficult? Like when you’re driving, and you’re looking for a location you’re not familiar with, and you have to turn the music down because it is a distraction. Or when you’re on an airplane, and you’re trying to read a book – the one damn thing in the world that can ease the nightmare that is air travel – and a 1 year old infant will not stop crying for the duration of the flight?

    jacques sheete says:Show Comment
    January 12, 2019 at 2:50 pm GMT • 100 Words

    Aaahhhhhh……. it’s sublime.

  63. Here’s something funny: in Germany, fare evasion is known as schwarz fahren, literally “riding black”.

    (Official speech may have since changed from those innocent times.)

    I did it occasionally, as a teen, to get home from school when I forgot my wallet. I was mortified the entire time. Ads were displayed all over the tram, a typical one would say: “I rode black. Everyone looked at me and I had to pay 50 DM.”

    • Replies: @awry
    , @jilles dykstra
  64. In NYC, one sees black bus drivers letting fellow blacks board buses without paying a fare occasionally but one also sees a lot of Chinese using a single monthly MTA card to swipe in fellow countryman at subway turnstiles and yet, for the most part, Chinese seem to be doing o.k. financially, while blacks seem not so well off… Blacks can learn from Chinese “Americans ” on how to game the system.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  65. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Do old fools pay a full fare or do they get half-off of the fare due to insanity to ride the bus or metro?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  66. Taxes are racist as they inherently fall unduly on Whites and force them to pay for others. In the name of equality, “Whites” can now stop paying taxes completely.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  67. @anarchyst

    Rosa Parks was a mulatto, hence the optics were presentable, just like Barry Obama and Eric Holder as well as Valerie Jarrett… America would not have elected an unadulterated, pure Negro of the Kunta Kinte coloration!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Truth
  68. @Wally

    Actually, Africa is beautiful… it’s the people who have made it a shithole!

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @jacques sheete
  69. @Den Lille Abe

    Perhaps, you are mistaking the American for the Aussie… could it be?

  70. awry says:
    @Parsnipitous

    Depends on the culture. In Budapest, fare evasion is quite common. And of course it is not a criminal offense. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontroll 🙂
    Of course gypsies (Romani “people”, they are the “blacks” of Eastern Europe basically) are usually aren’t even bothered by ticket inspectors who are not well paid, and they would make a huge scene anyways, at best.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  71. @onebornfree

    ‘Paul Kersey said : “And yet another reason why we can’t have nice things—such as safe public transit.”

    You want socialized public transportation systems, [as well as gawd only knows what else] ?

    You got it – so get over the inevitable results of yours and [most] others infantile, reality defying dreams of how it all “should” work, and deal with how it all actually does “work” in the real world…’

    You obviously haven’t spent much time overseas. Riding public transit in — say — Japan is a very pleasant experience. Indeed, nowhere — and I’ve been in twenty seven countries — is it as unpleasant and potentially dangerous as it is in the US. In my experience, riding public transit was a perfectly pleasant, safe, clean, and interesting experience in Japan, Chile, Sweden, Germany, Spain, Austria, and Turkey. It was on the dowdy side in Hungary and Romania, but you can’t have perfection everywhere.

    France would have been mighty fine — except that there were too many blacks. The quality of the system’s got nothing to do with it being ‘socialized.’ It’s everything to do with blacks being on the cars.

    It’s introducing blacks into the picture that causes how reality ‘should’ work and how it does work (or rather doesn’t work) to draw apart. One can’t guarantee success absent blacks; but one can guarantee failure if enough of them are present.

  72. ia says:
    @Jett Rucker

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lets-face-it-washington-dcs-metro-is-the-worst-in-the-world

    This is a liberal publication.

    Ridership has fallen for the past five years in a row, despite the Silver Line opening in 2015 with five new stations and, presumably, access for new riders.

    The fact that the Metro is the core commuter system for the nation’s capital makes comparisons invidious. People think it should run as well as the subways in Tokyo or London.

    From the Washington Post:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/

    After years of hand-wringing over the source of its plummeting ridership — teleworking, a shrinking federal workforce, lower gas prices, ride hailing, bike sharing — a consultant concluded what has been obvious to the hordes of riders who have abandoned the system.

    It’s the service.

    Metro turned to a consultant late last year to delve into the issues driving its faltering ridership, which by May 2018 had tumbled well below 2009 levels of 750,000 average weekday trips to just over 626,000.

    They are also saddled with a black-dominated union that intimidates white management using discrimination lawsuits.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2017/05/02/fired-track-workers-sue-metro-for-discrimination-hostile-work-environment/?utm_term=.be28d1efae72

    The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court, alleges that Metro had no evidence that the workers — two track walkers, two supervisors, and one maintenance manager — committed any wrongdoing. Instead, the workers’ lawyers argue, Metro officials sought to blame rank-and-file workers, who are predominantly black, and protect higher-ranking officials within the agency.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/metros-soaring-pension-costs-threaten-future-service-report-says/2018/09/10/bf85871c-b527-11e8-a2c5-3187f427e253_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.eef33d6dbfc6&wpisrc=nl_lclheads&wpmm=1

    There’s a lot more, if you want.

  73. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    No one said only blacks commit crimes, no strawmen.
    It’s the vastly disproportionate numbers of every day crimes by blacks which is the discussion.

    True, I agree absolutely about WWII and Vietnam, but you’re changing the subject to military crimes.

    And blacks no doubt involved themselves in huge numbers of crimes in the military is well.

    Regards.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  74. Logan says:
    @Wally

    That adds up to over 26M. Would be interested in the tabulation.

  75. anonymous[395] • Disclaimer says:

    Chicago public transport is crawling with lice-ridden homeless dirtballs stretched out over multiple seats just sleeping, stinking up the entire car. The vast majority appear to be black. They have no shame, just sleeping there in public. Now and then one of them will start screaming for no apparent reason, intimidating others who are just going about their business. This totally destroys the ride experience since one has to watch their back constantly. Leave the station one gets accosted by black panhandlers who position themselves everywhere, outside every store, coffee shop, etc. They all get EBT cards, you can bet that’s for sure, yet there they are, in your face all the time. The police have moved back from doing anything about these public nuisances due to all the protests so you’re on your own. All public spaces in America have deteriorated and turned squalid thanks to the fact of having a black population present.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  76. @Reuben Kaspate

    ‘Rosa Parks was a mulatto, hence the optics were presentable, just like Barry Obama and Eric Holder as well as Valerie Jarrett… America would not have elected an unadulterated, pure Negro of the Kunta Kinte coloration!’

    With very few exceptions, pure blacks are just too dumb to meaningfully participate in the larger society except as criminals, athletes, and unskilled laborers.

    Hence, outside of these categories the only pure blacks you see are rarities such as Clarence Thomas. Just about every other ‘black’ in the public eye is either a mulatto, a quadroon, or an octoroon. Take a look at a picture of Obama’s cabinet sometime.

    In fact, be an octoroon; your genetic handicap should be minimal and you get a ticket on the magic escalator.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  77. ia says:
    @Hail

    (1) Down: the Black population of most parts of Washington, DC proper (moving principally to Prince George’s County, Maryland, as prices rise with ongoing gentrification, which got going about the early 2000s in earnest and has by the late 2010s transformed much of the city proper into an expensive, bubble-world SWPLtopia);

    In 1970 PG county was 567,000 white @ 86%. Today, it less then 135,000 or 15%.

    In 1970 PG county had a black population of 92,400 or 14%. Today it’s over 574,000 @ 63%.

    Most would profess to believe both (1) and (2) are serious problems. But what if one must be chosen over the other? Which concern wins?

    Did you have a problem with that population replacement? Blacks make money when whites move in because whites drive up RE value. Blacks do the opposite. They also drive up crime and wreck the schools.

  78. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    “PS: This is a comment site, not an on line encyclopedia.”

    Meaning?

    I agree about parasite Israel. But they do not begin to resemble Africa. Get serious.

    These are the facts, I know, you know it, everyone knows it:

    In every instance where blacks & browns are in great numbers, and / or control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we see:
    massive murder rates
    massive crime in general
    degraded property
    massive disease, especially STDs
    massive drug & alcohol abuse
    general filth, squalor
    massive birthrates
    inability / unwillingness to support their own children
    massive youth pregnancies rates
    massive school dropout rates
    incredibly low IQs & test scores
    violence as a way of life
    fathers nowhere to be found

  79. Ron Unz says:

    Well, given some of my own focus, I couldn’t help but noticing that the reported per capita public transit offenses by blacks in both the LA and SF Bay areas seemed to be about 5-6 times that of Hispanics. That sort of crime ratio seems pretty typical almost everywhere in America, except some parts of the Northeast. It’s also relatively independent of age-distribution or socio-economic status.

    Since the piece first ran on VDare, I’m not too surprised the ratio wasn’t exactly highlighted…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  80. @awry

    ‘…Of course gypsies (Romani “people”, they are the “blacks” of Eastern Europe basically) …’

    I think of them as sort of blacks with brains — the ultimate nightmare.

    Spend some time in Romania, for example. There was one Romanian girl who used to crack me up. She could say ‘gypsy’ with such expression. You’d never guess such a volume of contempt and loathing could be packed into the simple utterance of one two-syllable word. I can hear her even now.

    I’ve never encountered anyone who actually had any experience of them who had anything good to say about gypsies.

  81. Wally says:
    @Colin Wright

    Spot on, Colin.

    Remember that even with fares, ‘public transportation’ does not pay for itself.

    They are all subsidized with taxpayers money.

    It’s just another example of unsustainable Communism.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  82. @Reuben Kaspate

    There is no metro or buses in the country where I live. We all walk. It is good for our health.

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  83. @Parsnipitous

    Schwarz in Germany, and zwart in the Netherlands simply means illegal.
    Zwart geld in the Netherlands, money earned illegally, such as by selling drugs.
    Legal money is wit, white.
    Giving black money the appearance of legal money: witwassen, laundering white.
    As far as I know no complaints yet by black people about illegal money being called black, schwarz or zwart.

    • Replies: @eah
  84. @Ron Unz

    ‘Well, given some of my own focus, I couldn’t help but noticing that the reported per capita public transit offenses by blacks in both the LA and SF Bay areas seemed to be about 5-6 times that of Hispanics. That sort of crime ratio seems pretty typical almost everywhere in America, except some parts of the Northeast. It’s also relatively independent of age-distribution or socio-economic status…’

    Ron’s Hispanophilism comes out of the closet again.

    I largely agree with it. In my opinion, Hispanics — at least Hispanics of the Indio-white variety we have on the West coast — behave pretty much as one would expect whites in the same socio-economic position to behave. A bit tacky and often appallingly ignorant — but alright, really. Moreover, the indices of crime, etc I’ve seen reflect that.

    However, it’s something of a red herring. Hispanics may be mighty fine folks. You might be alright. However, you can’t move into my guest bedroom, and we shouldn’t let more Hispanics (or anyone else) into the country. It’s got enough people already, thank you.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  85. @Wally

    fathers nowhere to be found
    Please do not be silly! Look again! Concentrate on crack houses and Taverns.

  86. George says:

    Why should everyone pay the same fare? Ever heard of price discrimination?

    Minnesota owes Ilhan Omar a debt of gratitude for removing representative Phyllis Kahn from office after 45 years of ‘service’. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Kahn

  87. @Reuben Kaspate

    ‘In NYC, one sees black bus drivers letting fellow blacks board buses without paying a fare occasionally but one also sees a lot of Chinese using a single monthly MTA card to swipe in fellow countryman at subway turnstiles and yet, for the most part, Chinese seem to be doing o.k. financially, while blacks seem not so well off… Blacks can learn from Chinese “Americans ” on how to game the system.’

    I’d guess what this is about is people coming here and learning the ‘rules’ from what they see.

    Not that Chinese are paragons of civic virtue, but I doubt if they’d behave this way if they didn’t see ‘everyone’ doing the same or worse. I went through something similar with employing illegals in my moving business. For years, I insisted on (invariably forged) i.d. — then gave up. It just got quixotic. No one else was bothering, and all I got for my pains was a lot of letters at the end of the year from the government querying my entries. Why bother…

    So Chinese probably would respect the fare rules if everyone else did and people gawked and commented when they didn’t. Since the opposite is the case, why?

    Something that’s related that I observed was driving behavior. As traffic got worse, blacks started dealing with driving across a busy street by crossing one half of it, then stopping — and blocking traffic — while waiting for an opening in the flow of traffic going the other direction.

    So blacks did that…then I started seeing whites doing it. ‘Hey: they’re doing it. It must be okay…’

    It also happened during integration. The theory was that the example of all these reasonably well-behaved, passably studious white children would make black children behave better.

    Statistically, the exact opposite happened. White behavior crashed.

    Go to places without blacks. Compare to places with blacks. You can find exceptions, but the overall picture is drearily predictable. Yes, I would be prepared to fly to Phnom Penh and just wing it as far as finding a room, learning how to get around, etc. No, I wouldn’t try that in Lagos or any majority-black city.

    Humans are social animals. We set standards for each other, and as a rule, abide by those standards. No one in our town litters because no one else does. There’s no elevated ethical thinking going on here — it’s just natural human behavior.

    The converse happens as well. Enough blacks — and the race to the bottom commences.

    • Agree: jim jones
  88. Ahoy says:

    After Patrick Henry’s cry “Give me Liberty or Give me Death”, America has been taken for a joy ride to never, never land. They have thrown out the window their principles on life, morals, ethics and faith in something HIGHER that differentiates humans from low material life alone.

    Today’s tragedy is that the cruelest enslaver of all, the American left, is portraying itself as the archangel of freedom and human rights. It would be the joke of the century, if it were not tragic.

    The video below is trying to tell us something. Hope some Americans start taking off the sleep from their eyes.

  89. @Colin Wright

    ‘…However, it’s something of a red herring. Hispanics may be mighty fine folks. You might be alright. However, you can’t move into my guest bedroom, and we shouldn’t let more Hispanics (or anyone else) into the country. It’s got enough people already, thank you.’

    To make my point here clearer, it’s that the immigration debate often gets sidetracked into ‘but I like Hispanics – they’re great people.’

    I’ll grant that. They’re alright, anyway. But it’s beside the point. We don’t need more people in the country — any more than you can move into my house. You may be mighty fine; Hispanics may be mighty fine. That doesn’t imply that you can move in with me or that they can move in with us.

    The hotel’s full enough. All the rooms are taken, and the pool’s crowded as it is. As the case may be, buy your own house or fix your own country. Why should we feel obliged to let more in?

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  90. Back in the early 1980s I was in Boston, MA when a turnstyle jumper tried running from a transit policemen, I believe after a scuffle to avoid arrest, and the transit policeman shot him. right through a kidney.

    The local radical newspaper made quite a fuss, but just about nobody else did.

    Somehow, I managed to avoid getting shot by the police (even the transit police) while I was there, and the transit system was actually safe. I only saw one attempted robbery, and that one failed as the thief was cornered until the police came.

    OK, so – – right or wrong?

    Not a good question.

    Am I more or less likely to get killed while riding the subway _now_ then I was back _then_, that’s a better one.

    Old story:
    A cowhand comes to church, and hears the preacher say to the Congregation “Do you want to go to Heaven!!”.
    The cowhand thinks a bit, then stands up and says “No I don’t want to go to Heaven.”
    The preacher is astonished “Everybody wants to go to heaven”
    Cowhand: “No they don’t, and I’ll prove it!”
    Turns around, puts his hand on his revolver, and says:
    “Anybody wants to go to Heaven, stand up!”
    No takers.

    People feeling virtuous about their support for “justice” should think about that story and revealed vs. stated preferences.

    That’s the _same_ town, BTW, where I stopped a 4 person gang (young Italians, I guess, not a real threat) from literally dragging a waiter out of a restaurant that faced the subway system at the Harvard stop. The restaurant was was full of Harvard students. Not a one of those people, “leaders of tomorrow” (today, now) did more than sit. No help, no comments, just an interesting show for them. They did not appear to be carrying basket balls, or any other sort either, and it turned out that they couldn’t rule the US either.

    This talk of social justice and virtue isn’t just hot air, it’s criminal fraud. Aztecs, every one, sacrificing others so the sun will come up for themselves.

    Counterinsurgency

  91. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright says:“The quality of the system’s got nothing to do with it being ‘socialized.’”

    Yeah right! 🙂 [Or should I say, “Wright”?]

    According to your er, “logic”, “we” don’t need freedom of choice, because socialism works, therefor force- funded [via theft] socialized systems everywhere, for everything are “the answer”. Right, got it. 🙂

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  92. I ride the LA Metro Red Line train three or four times a week – mostly to avoid the abysmal traffic here. For the low cost of a TAP card (yes, I pay – it’s a white thing) you get a front row subterranean view (and smell) of some of LA’s most vibrant inhabitants. I’m pretty sure a LA Metro train car has more mentally ill, drug-addled, cross-dressing and hair-trigger-violent specimens per square foot than any other container in LA – excepting maybe a faculty meeting at the university I attend. I regularly change cars at interim stations along my ride, because a particular “patron” seems especially bizarre, even in this Cuckoo’s Nest environment.

    In contrast, I rode the subway and bus system in Seoul, ROK regularly for 2 years, and it was as clean, quiet and orderly as a Presbyterian church service – every single time. Any Korean would be ashamed to try to beat the fare – it would just be flat out unthinkable. At no time did I feel the slightest bit at risk on any line in any section of this city of 25 million people – and the same when I left the station, anywhere, any hour of the day. It actually took some time to adjust to not being wary 24/7, as one must be in LA.

    Hmm… so what is it they have in South Korea that we don’t? Or rather, what (or who) is it they DON’T have?

  93. eah says:
    @anarchyst

    She was an organizer for the NAACP and was “planted”…

    It was similar with John Scopes — he was recruited by the ACLU to violate the Butler Act by teaching evolution in a TN public school, resulting in the famous ‘Scopes Monkey Trial’.

  94. Agent76 says:

    Sep 18, 2015 Enter the biggest prison system in history

    The Empire holds by far the most prisoners than any other country on earth, in both absolute numbers and per capita. Abby Martin explores the dark reality of conditions in America’s prisons, who is warehoused in them, and how things got this way.

    Sep 11, 2015 Mass Incarceration, Visualized

    In this animated interview, the sociologist Bruce Western explains the current inevitability of prison for certain demographics of young black men and how it’s become a normal life event.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/404890/prison-inherited-trait/

    • Replies: @Anon
  95. @Colin Wright

    India, with a population of 1.4 billion, has a land area of ~ 3million sq. kms.
    The U$A has a land area of ~ 9million sq. kms.

    Therefore, the potential population of the U$A could be 4.2 billion.

    So much for capitalist efficiency!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  96. eah says:
    @jilles dykstra

    In German the verb is schwarzfahren (one word) — its use is widespread, widely accepted, but still somewhat informal — it means to ride transit without paying — schwarz is the color black; this is its formal meaning — its more informal meaning (as you say) is illicit — this informal use is more common in combination, eg schwarzfahren — also Schwarzarbeit, which means working off-the-books (for cash), ie without paying the legally required income and social taxes.

  97. @anon

    Easy solution is to have Public Transit FREE!

    Then EVERYONE can enjoy a service that ALL citizens pay for enjoy and can enjoy, even those that think a $100,000+ vehicle is the epitome of freedom!

    However, I certainly agree that no janitor should make $270k, but they should make more than money and stock speculators, as janitors are actually useful.

  98. @Nicolás Palacios

    I agree with 3-Cranes – that was an excellent illustrative story, expecially good for those who DON’T know what the situation is in multi-racial America today. You also gave details that the youtube watchers will mostly bother to find out about.

    It’s all a perfect lesson on why “we can’t have nice things”, a phrase Mr. Paul Kersey here has used often.

    Thank you, Mr. Palacios.

    • Replies: @eah
  99. @jacques sheete

    Whaddya say that we extend the concept to taxes as well?

    I like the way you think … at least when I can make any sense of it.

  100. @Another German Reader

    May you all live in interesting times!

    Hey, I got that same one in my cookie from the Egg Roll hut about 20 years back. Damn! They really work!

  101. @Wizard of Oz

    to be fair with the obdwankerdiyg moron, the damn united states of terror have been killing people in wars or by proxy every day since ww2 ended,.. if that number is 27 million, 15 million, 40 million or 100 million i dont know since i have never researched it. Should be easy to estimate by checking the death toll in all their interventions, wars etc etc tho. That it is a high number of dead people i have no doubts about, even a broken watch shows the correct time twice every day. but i doubt that obwankerdiag have right more then twice every other year tho…

  102. @Reuben Kaspate

    From now on when I will respond to you I will use the most filthy word “Democrat.”

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  103. @ThreeCranes

    nothing,but it is the easiest deflection argument that exists and say a lot about the intelligence off those that use it…

  104. Laws are enacted because of a widespread belief that a modification of local human behaviour would be desirable, and the new law addresses this concern. Funnily enough, there is a reason why, when a law is enacted, it usually contains a section describing penalties for those who violate it. The reason is of course that, if there were no penalty, the great majority of people would feel no need to comply.

    Taking this a little further: if it is found that, despite the penalties stipulated, a significant number of people violate the law anyway, the message is – or ought to be – that the severity of the penalty is in need of adjustment to a level at which the very great majority find their compliance personally desirable. The ‘logic’ behind eliminating the penalty when it is found people violate the law is beyond stupid.

    And perhaps the reason for these violations may be hinted at in a conversation I had with a wonderful black cleaning lady many years ago. She said: “You know, the only people who cheat me are black people. I have never been cheated by a white person.” One learns from one’s experiences.

  105. @Wally

    Since August 14, 1945, 26,814 days have elapsed. US Has Killed More Than 20 Million People* in 37 “Victim Nations” in that interval.

    *https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051

    • Replies: @eah
  106. @ThreeCranes

    Since comments are not threaded, you’ll have to explain what ‘one’ and ‘the other’ refer to.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  107. SafeNow says:

    The Coast Guard Academy recently came under severe criticism for insufficient diversity. (2%, a fraction of the other service academies.). I predict that the swimming entrance requirements and courses will soon be downgraded. (or “refreshed” as the universities say in the case of the trashing of the traditional literary curriculum) But I do sympathize with the diversity students who do not apply to the CG. If a college had hip-hop-dance requirements, I would not enroll there—I am really hopeless at that… I would struggle, and be derided, and feel out of place.

    • Replies: @Truth
  108. Presumably, turnstile jumping is a young man’s sport. Not too many Grannys pushing walkers or veterans in wheelchairs can channel their criminal tendencies into fare evasion. So by letting just one class, young black men, off the hook aren’t our lawmakers discriminating against the aged and “mobility challenged”?

  109. @Colin Wright

    Alas, Clarence Thomas was an affirmative action pick. He was selected by GHWB to take the place of deceased Justice Thurgood Marshall. Putting a black conservative on the Supreme Court to replace NAACP icon Marshall, which caused just as much liberal outrage as the Kavanaugh hearings, took guts and had to be GHWB’s finest hour. He really rubbed the D’s nose in it with that one!

  110. eah says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Except I was not able to find any evidence for this part:

    She not only jumped the Red Line fare,…

    Not a single story I read about the incident — and I read several — said she did not pay — in fact if you watch the video of the incident (I posted it), as the cop is pulling her off the train, you can hear her saying she paid to be on it.

    …but also decided to spread out across two seats…

    This seems embellished as well — all of the articles said she had her feet on a seat — most probably the seat across from her, not next to her (watch the video) — it is a stretch to call that “spread out across two seats” — it is rude and disrespectful to put your dirty feet on a seat; it’s also against the rules of carriage — so the cop asked her to put her feet down — she refused, for whatever reason — when she refused to get off the train, he started pulling her off.

    … and denied an elderly lady’s request to free one of the seats up for her.

    I did not see that reported in a single story about the incident either — it could be that with her feet on the seat, others were intimidated — they would have otherwise sat there — I can easily believe that — it is a lot more difficult to believe she refused an old lady — especially without proof.

    Unless someone can prove to me otherwise, here is apparently what happened: she was sitting in a 4er area, ie two seats on each side facing each other — the seat opposite her was vacant, and she had her feet up on it — a cop happened to be on the train, saw her feet on the seat, and asked her to put them down — she refused and he dragged her off the train (she had to ask to be allowed to retrieve her belongings — watch the video).

    I’m not defending her — but it’s a bit strange that such a rather long comment telling a rather detailed story did not include a single link — and many of the reported details seem false — at least I was not able to find news reports verifying them.

  111. Mulegino1 says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    It appears simple: the financial and globalist elites enjoy impunity and are increasingly granting the very lowest strata of society the luxury of lawless behavior with impunity at the expense of the middle and working classes- provided such lawless behavior does not endanger the aforementioned elites.

  112. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    You do not educate wild animals, you put them into cages. (See any Zoo!)

    Here, in the USA, we put them into positions of authority. And when they make monkeys of themselves, we “vote” ’em in for another term or more. If they’e mere hirelings, we give them tenure and such.

    • LOL: niceland
  113. Anon[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    As one who campaigned for years in my country for appropriate privatisations I am no socialist but, to me, you sound like a primitive with no functioning brain. How do you deal with the inevitable monopolies and tendencies to monopoly? Who provides the regulations and oversight? How do you get investment in areas where there is not enough profit to attract private capital but huge positive externalities e.g. in providing sewers for already built cities?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  114. @Sic Semper

    In the name of equality, “Whites” can now stop paying taxes completely.

    In the name of sanity as well.

    Taxes are theft (extortion more precisely) and they lead, invariably, to a degenerate society. But hey, dem blakz iz gamin’ da turnstiles!

  115. @Reuben Kaspate

    Actually, Africa is beautiful… it’s the people who have made it a shithole!

    Especially the slavers and colonialists. Ever hear of “King” Leopold?

    Before you eat, google “leopold ii hand mutilation” images and get back to me.

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Kim
  116. @Colin Wright

    France would have been mighty fine — except that there were too many blacks.

    In Morocco,Tunisia, Algeria and about 1/4 of NW Africa, there were and are too many French. The #^%$* should have stayed home. Same goes for the Brits and Italians and a few others as well.

    You wanna talk about uncivilized behavior???

    • Replies: @By-tor
    , @Colin Wright
  117. eah says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    What exactly does that have to do with fare dodging? — be specific (asking for a friend) — That’s gotta count for something — actually, it doesn’t — not in a discussion about fare dodging, anyway — you know, there are many contributions on unz.com that are critical of US foreign policy — you could have and should have posted this kind of stuff in a comment under one of those — if you did, many would probably agree with the spirit of it (if not the letter/numbers) — instead you post it as a comment on an article about fare dodging — I mean, WTF man — that is some troll level bullshit — take it somewhere else you clown.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @eah
  118. @Wally

    No one said only blacks commit crimes, no strawmen.

    I never said anyone said that. I’m happy to see that you are anti-strawman, so kindly avoid them yourself.

    It’s the vastly disproportionate numbers of every day crimes by blacks which is the discussion.

    Yeah, I know, and given the crimes of our government, who really gives a flying bleep about everyday street crime? I mean if people wanna get all worked up over something, just check out the behavior of the goons in office and uniform.

    My point is that people are being distracted b,y and wasting their energy on, the unpleasant small stuff and I think that’s just plain moronic.

    Thank you.

    • Replies: @eah
  119. @Wally

    I agree about parasite Israel. But they do not begin to resemble Africa. Get serious.

    You’re correct, but missed the point, again. I doubt if all the black crime in the world would would be as noxious or violent as that committed by the Israelis on any time basis, so why let yourself be distracted by the small stuff?

    The ones who need to get real, are those who obsess over the minor bullshit. We have our hands full with the criminals in government but the best we can do, apparently is to sit around whining about hood rats and the like.

    These are the facts, I know, you know it, everyone knows it:

    Who cares if they are the facts or whether anyone knows it? Where have I denied it? Strawman, remember?

    WhoTF cares about that when you’re being robbed blind in the interests of big time gangsters?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  120. @eah

    We are not exactly in a court of law here, for a criminal. case, Eah. Do we need to know beyond a reasonable doubt about the fare-jumping? I’ll believe an anonymous well-writing commenter nowadays over the Lyin’ Press, and some faggy-sounding cameraman. Your comment makes good sense, but OTOH, I figured Mr. Palacios is in the know somehow.

    I’ll say this, as someone who’s had many, many run-ins with the law in the realm of traffic enforcement (involving all means of conveyances too!): I’ve talked back, I’ve told the guy “I’ll just see you in court.” and told him directly that he’s wrong. I just never acted as crude and tribal as the gang here. Using the f-word one time, when the guy’s dragging your arm – sure, adrenaline and all. Using it every fucking sentence? (haha) Come on! The fat girl brought up the race card numerous times, and the cop had everyone, at least who spoke out, against him. I thought he did a good professional job, and remember, I’ve had enough run-ins. and read enough about no-knock raids and other unconstitutional BS to be NO KIND of “LEO”-booster.

    Nothing would have gone this far in an incident with a crowd of 95% white people, I’d think we’d all agree. “OK, I’ll move my feet. Don’t have a cow” – that’s all it would take to show one’s distain, yet still just get the guy to leave you alone, right?

    It really does make you want to move to the Orient, at least if you insist on living in a big city.

    • Replies: @eah
  121. eah says:
    @jacques sheete

    Yeah, I know, and given the crimes of our government, who really gives a flying bleep about everyday street crime?

    People who have to live amidst it, pay the costs of it, or worse are personally victims of it.

    My point is that people are being distracted b,y and wasting their energy on, the unpleasant small stuff and I think that’s just plain moronic.

    Actually, no one is distracted — it’s just an article/discussion about fare dodging, and how the establishment — which you criticize — dishonestly and cowardly deals with it — that seemed to go right over your head — we all know there are more important things — we don’t need you to tell us that.

    You know, your snide set-them-rubes-straight persona is not interesting at all — in fact, it’s just obnoxious and tiresome.

    So just fuck off.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  122. @eah

    Eah, Commies are gonna Commie, and this guy is an admitted Mao-sack-hanging, USSR-era-longing, flat-out Communist. He’s never had a good thing to say about America, and I don’t mean just understandably present-day America, a la, Fred Reed style.

    … — take it somewhere else you clown.

    It’s very funny that you wrote that – do you know that Godfree Roberts writes for unz.com?

    • Replies: @eah
  123. By-tor says:
    @jacques sheete

    Uncivilized behavior? Look at post-colonial Africa. There is not single prosperous African country below the Sahara except S. Africa, and it is being ruined by the ‘new owners’ who are intellectual midgits, cutthroats and bigots. Africa has no jobs, so its MAM’s head north invading Europe where they bring diseases, ignorance, crime, unemployment and dysfunctional African behavior.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  124. @Anon

    …but, to me, you sound like a primitive with no functioning brain.

    Umm resorting to initiating that sort of comment regarding a fellow commenter isn’t exactly an indication of a functioning brain either, or is it?

    How do you deal with the inevitable monopolies and tendencies to monopoly? Who provides the regulations and oversight?

    How do you think monopolies get that way? One of the ways is that certain members of the money bags crowd obtain special privileges of one sort or another from, guess who? Yup, big government.

    Yeah, yeah I know all about the so called trust busting era but that was just one group of money bags using government to smash the competition. Now, we hear virtually nothing about trusts and monopolies and the like, yet they exist, bigger than ever. Ever wonder why?

    Your vaunted “regs” work similarly. Oversight? You gotta be kidding.

    But hey, who’ll build da woadz, right? And someone’s gotta start the wars!

  125. @By-tor

    Dear Sir, or Ms:

    This is the 21st century. Time to get up to speed. Ever wonder why things may be as you describe? Do you really know anything about Africa at all? Do you really think it’s “post” colonial? I bet it really ain’t.

    Turn off the boob tube and grab a copy of Perkins “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.”

    http://library.uniteddiversity.coop/Money_and_Economics/confessions_of_an_economic_hitman.pdf

  126. eah says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    do you know that Godfree Roberts writes for unz.com?

    No, and I don’t care — I have also criticized comments by Unz himself (believe me, he has said some weird shit in comments) — by “somewhere else” I (clearly) meant he should post such comments under more suitable articles.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  127. @jacques sheete

    ‘In Morocco,Tunisia, Algeria and about 1/4 of NW Africa, there were and are too many French. The #^%$* should have stayed home. Same goes for the Brits and Italians and a few others as well.

    You wanna talk about uncivilized behavior???’

    How does that address my point? Whatever France’s misdemeanors, adding blacks to it hardly improves the place. France could have committed the Holocaust; she could have been an exemplar of civilized and ethical behavior for her entire history; neither case implies that blacks moving there is a good idea.

    …your argument is essentially that it’s okay if you burn down my house. I drive badly.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  128. @Wally

    ‘…They are all subsidized with taxpayers money.

    It’s just another example of unsustainable Communism.’

    Meh. Mass transit systems have been operating successfuilly for over a hundred years now. They’re obviously sustainable.

    Otherwise, while we can still afford the luxury of cars for all and lots of roads to drive them on, it wouldn’t work very well in places like Japan, the U.K., etc.

    They’re just too damned crowded. Partly, hence my opposition to any more immigration from anywhere.

    I like the luxuries a relatively low population density makes practicable. However, I’m not under any illusions that it would work everywhere.

    In any case, if we were to seriously go over to mass transit here, we’d have to work up a rationale for banning young black males and vagrants from the trains.

    We have problems with mass transit and don’t actually need it. The same isn’t true of other places.

  129. @Wizard of Oz

    ‘“Exactly right”. Well how do you justify the figure of 27 million foreign civilians killed by America (white Americans) or since 1946?’

    How do you justify the fact that you may (or may not) be ugly and/or smell?

    Irrelevant? But then, look at your post.

    I’m also curious as to your claim that only white Americans committed the various crimes you allege. Black G.I.’s, for example, were notorious rapists on Okinawa. How do you know only whites carried out these killings?

    Also, it’s somewhat gratuituous to point it out, but that ’27 million’ figure is one of those grotesque exaggerations that does nothing to strengthen what passes for your argument and much to weaken it.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  130. @jacques sheete

    ‘…You’re correct, but missed the point, again. I doubt if all the black crime in the world would would be as noxious or violent as that committed by the Israelis on any time basis, so why let yourself be distracted by the small stuff?’

    This is not actually an argument. That some settlers stoned to death a Palestinian mother of eight does not somehow make it okay if my neighbor keys my car.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  131. @bike-anarkist

    ‘India, with a population of 1.4 billion, has a land area of ~ 3million sq. kms.
    The U$A has a land area of ~ 9million sq. kms.

    Therefore, the potential population of the U$A could be 4.2 billion.

    So much for capitalist efficiency!’

    Do you see it as a failing that we don’t have a still larger population?

  132. @eah

    Hey, I think you’re reading to fast or something, because that’s not at all how I meant it. You can criticize anyone you want – that doesn’t bother me. I have also disagreed with Mr. Unz, but I give him a hell of a lot of credit for taking no action as the webmaster, being patient (well half the time) with other commenters in discussions, and just running this great site.

    I mean that it’s funny that this Communist writes for Unz, and there are a number more of them (they usually sucker me one time into reading their crap, and then I try to remember the names). Look on the masthead. That part about “interesting”, “controversial”, and “important” just would not make me think that it means straight-up bright-Red, hammer&sickle Commies would have columns though. I’m marveling about it, not complaining, as nobody’s got a gun to my head … yet.

  133. Rich says:
    @jacques sheete

    Not sure what your point is here. Are you saying that because a Belgian King may have acted barbarically 150 years ago, American blacks shouldn’t be charged for jumping turnstiles? No one is guilty, or should be punished for crimes committed by another person. I believe the Congo has been free of Europeans for almost 60 years and in that time, the Congolese have managed to murder and maim each other as badly, or maybe worse, than the Belgians ever did.

  134. Tim says:

    It’s not going to stop at turn style jumping.

    BTW: someone should do a thing on blacks parking in handicapped spots. It’s all the rage among black females

    • Replies: @PaleRider
  135. Truth says:
    @Wernermagnus

    You see a lot of them joining the Special Forces?

  136. Truth says:
    @Paulbe

    What I have learned from Mr. Sailer is that whites join the armed-forces as paramilitaries, blacks as cooks.

  137. Truth says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    If one of them started porking your wife, he’d be Idi Amin…Even Valerie.

  138. @Colin Wright

    It’s become less safe and interesting in Chile at least. I can actually recall a time when graffiti and indigent types were practically non-existent on trains and buses (or anywhere else) in the country.

    Already during Pinochet’s time there were a surprising number of Koreans in the country, for example. But since then illegal immigration has become the burning issue there.

    At first it was from Argentines across the Andes, then in the late 1990s from bottom-of-the-social-ladder Peruvians and Bolivians. Successive UDI and RN governments proved useless in containing the problem. Then Bachelet and her Socialists swung the door wide open about 15 years ago. Today all manner of indigent blacks from Haiti and the Dominican Republic traipse about even in the deepest south of Chile.

    As an aside, I can recall a time when blacks were largely only heard about, but never seen in Chile. (Full disclosure: my family is from the old country and I continue to maintain close contact with them, as well as with cultural organizations there.) The first time I ever went to Chile was in 1989, shortly after the plebiscite that forced Pinochet to step down. My family and I were in Viña del mar sitting at an outdoor café when we noticed all the other customers craning their heads to our left, with some people getting up to walk in that direction. We turn that way and saw a young black guy, probably an American in his 20s, walking down the street and window shopping. But I remember what a curiosity it was for these people to see a black man as most had never seen one in the flesh back then. They just sat there watching him agog; some even warily followed him from a distance, as one would perhaps do with a deer or moose that had lumbered into one’s neighborhood. The Chile of that era was (and continued to be until recently) a rather conservative and culturally isolated country. My aunt kept looking at that black guy and I remember her telling my father later: “Of course, we see them on TV. It’s not like I’ve never seen one. And I know what a wild animal looks like too. But it’s still shocking to see a gorilla outside its cage and walking down your own street.” Simpler times!

    No such shocks for the average Chilean city-dweller of 2019. Nor are they any longer shocked by the waves of thefts, assaults, drug trafficking, and other such crimes that have only coincidentally spiked with the arrival of their new dusky neighbors.

  139. Truth says:
    @SafeNow

    Dude, why the defeatist attitude? I mean four years of elbow grease and imagine the social benefits…

  140. @anon

    Sounds like the Israelis.

  141. @eah

    I don’t bother to include links because I’m simply commenting on a website, not submitting a doctoral or scholarly dissertation. Understand that most people (myself included) comment in a casual manner and rely on personal memory/experience, which can be haphazard. Therefore, some details may be off, in which case I’m glad to be corrected on them.

    I recall reading about this story when it first broke on the LA Times and KTLA websites and finding that those details were mentioned. It often occurs, however, that details with breaking stories are subsequently revised or removed altogether once more information has been obtained and verified. So that may have been the case here.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @eah
  142. @Rich

    ‘… I believe the Congo has been free of Europeans for almost 60 years and in that time, the Congolese have managed to murder and maim each other as badly, or maybe worse, than the Belgians ever did.’

    Even allowing for the excesses of King Leopold’s Congo Free State et al, I’d bet the interval of European colonial rule in Africa (about 1890 to 1960) saw a net decline in the ongoing orgy of savagery and slaughter that had been the norm in Africa since the dawn of time and that has resumed today.

    I once heard about a (needless to say, unpublished) study that interviewed Africans about their feelings about the changes since independence. This would have been at some point in the Eighties.

    The elites — essentially, the members of the kleptocracies that rule what pass for states in subsaharan Africa — of course mouthed all the usual blather about independence, national freedom, etc. It was a different story when the interviewers got down to the average man in the street; your shopkeepers, laborers, craftsmen, etc. There, the story was ‘for God’s sake, bring back the French/British.’

    The end of colonialism was in aid of nothing. It didn’t benefit us, it didn’t benefit the Africans, it certainly didn’t benefit the white settlers, and it hasn’t done much for the animals. It was a piece of ideological foolishness, practiced because we prefer to lie to ourselves. One might as well talk about independent living for five year olds.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  143. @Den Lille Abe

    ‘US citizens are born to commit crime. It is their genes.’

    It’s interesting. Swedes have some weird hostility towards Americans. This goes back more than a century too; they liked to award the Nobel Prize for literature to Sinclair Lewis’ muckraking novels, if I recall aright. Sinclair Lewis is alright as far as he goes, but he is decidedly not a great writer. He was, however, scathingly critical of America.

    The Swedes ate it up. I wonder why? Speaking for myself, I can’t saw I feel any particular animus towards Sweden. Maybe it was because there you were, happily abusing your peasantry — and they all ran off to America on you!

    Is that it? Were your feelings hurt when all your helots decamped?

    But I speculate. Perhaps there’s some other reason entirely. I wonder what we ever did to Sweden?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @jacques sheete
  144. @Christo

    You will see nothing. Most of the data are rigged to show even lower rates for blacks and other minorities. I’ve talked to police who say the data are doctored. All of you need to get ready because this is just the beginning. The Marxist Jews are pushing to let out millions of blacks from prisons because of the same theory.

    You may see the total collapse of society in your lifetime. Just wait til the Dems win the Presidency; you will have complete open borders. All social economic systems will collapse and when the moron blacks realize that they are becoming less and less important and less free stuff is available because of all the illegals, they will riot because they have been taught that nothing can be done to them.

    People in this country do not realize how volatile this situation is. They live in La La land. The entire racist diatribe is conditioning to let your guard down so that you are easy prey. They have been planning this for years and now they have sanctuary cities to hide criminals which will serve as a base for their activities. Anyone who has even remotely studied the criminal mind knows if you allow such behaviors that they will just continue to commit more serious and dangerous crimes. Many years ago I read a study where they interviewed many prisoners and the question they asked: “How did you get in such a situation and now you are a felon.” Almost all the prisoners gave the same answer: “No one ever stopped me when I was young. They just slapped my risk and let me go. So I just kept doing it.”

    Welcome to Obama’s World….The Jungle.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @jacques sheete
  145. Thomm says:
    @danand

    3.2X Hispanic
    1X White

    This directly contradicts RUnzie Baby’s thesis that Hispanic crime, after adjusting for gender balance and age, is only 1.2x that of whites.

    So who is right?

  146. @Colin Wright

    ‘…they liked to award the Nobel Prize for literature to Sinclair Lewis’ muckraking novels, if I recall aright. Maybe it was Upton Sinclair, but whatever…’

    Huh. Neither one. Dunno where I got that from.

    Still, ‘Den Lille Abe’ definitely has a beef with Americans. I wonder why?

  147. RI says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Really? Only white America has killed so many abroad? I did not know that Colin Powel, Obama etc were white?

  148. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah

    She was in one of the seats in the front reserved for elderly and handicapped. Those sears face each other across the aisle. Putting her feet on s seat across the aisle would have blocked the aisle and prevented other passengers from moving down the aisle.

    • Replies: @eah
  149. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    Public transit all began as private busses drawn by horses and mules. The first one I know of was 1600s Paris known as Omnibuses because they went all over and too the suburbs as well. Chara bancs wagons with benches

    By the 1830s most European and American cities had them as well as private taxis.

    By the 1890s costs of running the buses was so high that it was impossible to make a reasonable profit without raising the fares so high the great mass of riders couldn’t afford the fares.

    So the bus and trolley owners sold out to the government. Now the government runs them at a loss made up by taxes. Maybe in Libertarian Wonderland private companies could develop and run for profit mass transit with fares affordable for the riders, decently paid employees functioning equipment and make a decent 5 percent profit.

    But away from Libertarian Wonderland it hasn’t been possible anywhere in the world for about 150 years. Subways were never built and run by the private sector, always city and county government.

    Post office vs Fedex. The post office is a government subsidized public service and I’m grateful for it. I’m not about to walk, drive or take the bus to the fedex office 2 miles away and send a letter for $9.00 when I can walk 2 blocks to the convenient post office and send a letter by certified mail for $3.00. Same with packages. Why go 2 miles to send a package for $40.00 when I can send the same package at the nearby post office for $12.00 and it gets there before the fedex package does

    The American railroad system was going bankrupt till the government took it over and called it Amtrak. You probably don’t know this, but railroads in every country in the world were built with vast assistance from governments such as raising funds with bond issues and giving the railroads the land

    Sewers The Roman government using slave labor built sewers and municipal water systems. When Rome fell the European private sector was unable to establish municipal water and sewer systems. After about 1700 years European city governments finally developed sewers and municipal water systems

    There are some things only governments can do, like affordable mass transit and affordable convenient post offices vs expensive fedex.
    Another good thing about the post office. Instead of leaving a package in the front for any thief to steal, the carrier leaves a note in the mailbox or on the door asking you to come pick up the package.

    Just as communism doesn’t work, neither does Libertarian Wonderland.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  150. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Sweden became very anti American after WW2 because it was heavily communist which meant anti American. I don’t mean socialism. I mean the same type of idiot intelligentsia as the standard anti American communists all over Europe and in American universities. Sweden’s very near Russia Fear of the Beast from the East had a lot to do with it. Sweden thought of itself as The Third Way between dog eat dog capitalism and murderois disfunctionsl communism.

    There was some historical animus as well. Because of the short growing season, oppression and exploitation of the peasantry Danish serfdom lasting till around 1790 etc there was a mass exodus of the peasants and workers to America in the late 19th early 20th century. Sweden had a major famine in the late 19th century and the working class was among the poorest in Europe, as badly off as Ireland which at least had a long growing season and a mild climate

    The middle and upper classes lost their cheap labor and the nationalist educated middle class was humiliated. It was the mass exodus of peasants and workers for the American upper Midwest that forced the Swedish government to establish socialism.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  151. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @niteranger

    Instead of endlessly churning statistics based on criminals with Hispanic names classified as White, researchers should just look at the lists of convicted criminals and look at the surnames. Since 1970 our government has classified anyone with a Spanish surname as Hispanic, including people born in Spain itself.

    Or just go to nearby Quentin, Folsom Tracy and other California state prisons, walk the tiers and look at the prisoners.

    Unable to control and civilize the blacks, TPTB imported the Hispanics to do the job the American elites just wouldn’t do, drive the blacks out of our great cities and metro areas.

  152. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    I’ve always felt that the evil King Leopold stories was just British propaganda, like the WW1 propaganda about the German soldiers using babies for bayonet practice and raping nuns in their own churches. Britain France and Netherlands parceled out the colonies and things were stable.

    The Belgium and Germany invaded Africa and the English propaganda machine went full blast because England wanted Congo.

    I don’t believe British propaganda whether anti German or anti Belgian

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  153. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah

    Just about everyone who works for Bart is black

  154. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Agent76

    Our prisons need to be much bigger and the inmates need to be incarcerated from age 13 to a very early death.

    A certain demographic commits most of the crime. The best solution would be to neuter those babies shortly after birth. Manufacture some miniature Fallopian tube cutters and castration banders. There are some super local anesthetics to make it painless. A big magnifying glass would probably be needed for the girls.

    Biggest advantage is that without testosterone, the boys would behave in school instead of acting like savage Vikings and destroying every school system they are in.

    In 40 years the American crime problem would end. That is if Ron’s statistics about Hispanic low crime rates are true.

  155. @Colin Wright

    How does that address my point?

    It wasn’t intended to. It was a new point, and do I really need to explain it?

    …your argument is essentially that it’s okay if you burn down my house. I drive badly.

    Now that’s hilarious.

  156. @Colin Wright

    You keep missing the point.

    That some settlers stoned to death a Palestinian mother of eight does not somehow make it okay if my neighbor keys my car.

    Duh. Hey, neither Wally nor I take straw man arguments seriously. If you want to be taken seriously then you should try to avoid them as well. If you’re just here to troll, keep it up.

  157. @Rich

    Not sure what your point is here.

    Simply put, the point is that crimes are part of human nature, and that blacks don’t have a monopoly on it.

    Furthermore, I think that jumping turnstyles may be more of a game than a crime and I find it amusing that people whine and point fingers at the perps when they should be laughing instead. But i guess that’s the nature of Homo sappyens too.

    There’s more, but Rome wasn’t built in a day, if you know what I mean.

    • Replies: @Rich
  158. @Colin Wright

    Your comment is full of the usual elitist wannabe wishful thinking, so the particulars would be tiresome and fruitless to address, but I must ask, what makes you think colonialism has ended?

  159. @Colin Wright

    Sinclair Lewis … was, however, scathingly critical of America.

    So was Upton Sinclair, and though he had his biases too, I think the criticisms were warranted. Many still are.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  160. @niteranger

    Good point.

    The Marxist Jews are pushing to let out millions of blacks from prisons because of the same theory.

    I’ve read that the Bolshies used the tactic of releasing common criminals in the USSR to help terrorize the populace and that street thugs were used by them to help “keep order” in the work camps too. I apologize that I don’t recall the sources right now. I’m pretty sure that Lincoln used similar rabble in the Union Armies because it was difficult to find people to fight the South, but I could be wrong. I do know, from personal experience, (yeah, I know that I’m leaving myself wide open here), that the US military is known to “kinda sorta bend the rules” to get bodies, not necessarily the best of the crop, as well.

    You may see the total collapse of society in your lifetime.

    May? I’ve seen a great decline in the civil part of it over my life already and I don’t know how it can go much lower before it’s “total.” As I see it, it’s already a dead society. and it pretty much began it’s death rattle when FDR was Joey Stalin’s buddy and the nation went along with him, getting close to a century ago. The fools running for office now, and the faith the electorate put in such sewage, are further evidence that we’re toast, and have been for some time.

  161. @Colin Wright

    I hadn’t previously thought of you as a candidate for the UR Dopey list but maybe you are just assuming I use words and grammar as loosely as many commenters do. Please look again at the dialogue.

    First Godfree Roberts makes a bold claim of 1000 foreign civilian deaths a day at the hands of Americans since 1946 without doing the simple calculation that I then did and challenged him to justify (he hasn’t). When obandwiyag fatuously says “Exactly right” I pick up that piece of what sounds like blustering BS and ask him too to justify the 27 million as a true (even very nearly exactly right!) statistic. Get it?

    PS Do you accept the figure?

  162. eah says:
    @eah

    OT (has nothing to do with fare dodging)

    if you did, many would probably agree with the spirit of it (if not the letter/numbers)

    An example:

  163. @Anon

    All those wonderful things you say only government can do are paid for by taxes as you seem to admit.

    Taxes are theft, so one conclusion is that it’s OK to steal because of all the goodies we get. The end justifies the means, in other words. Besides all the wunnerful stuff government provides, it also tends to concentrate wealth and power in the hands of a few. One commenter, above, is opposed to monopolies, (presumably monopsonies too), and so am I. Now, please explain to me how concentrating wealth and power is generally to be viewed as a good thing.

    The political game has long been recognized as a scam where the power boys toss the rest of us a few crumbs and the suckers among us are grateful for the scraps and somehow rationalize them as a net benefit to society.

    Demos
    Oh! what a lot of good things! Why it’s quite full! Oh! what a huge great part of this cake he kept for himself! [1220] He had only cut off the least little tiny piece for me.

    Sausage-Seller
    But this is what he has always done. Of everything he took, he only gave you the crumbs, and kept the bulk.

    – Aristophanes, The Knights, 424 BC

    http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0034%3Acard%3D1191

    Even the ancients knew that one cannot look to the bennie side of the ledger and call it good.
    And please don’t call me a libertarian.

  164. @Anon

    I’ve always felt that the evil King Leopold stories was just British propaganda, like the WW1 propaganda …

    Now that is an extremely good point! I am ashamed to admit that I never thought of that angle. Unfortunately, however, it appears that Leopold really was indeed the monster as advertised. You are correct about the devious methods about the Brit ruling classes however.

    Now, since you appear to be an original thinker, I’d appreciate your comment about my question immediately following this quote from the article.:

    The latest municipality to jump (so to speak) on that train: Washington, D.C. City council just voted 10-2 to decriminalize fare evasion, the local news radio station reported, because “criminal penalties disproportionately affected African-Americans.”

    Have you ever seen or can you imagine reading something like,

    …Washington, D.C… just voted 10-2 to decriminalize and subsidize Wall Street bankruptcies, the national news radio station reported, because “criminal penalties disproportionately affected white (or Jewish)-Americans.

    I mean, why don’t we typically see such things? (Please notice that there are at least 3 obvious reasons for that.)

    In fact maybe decriminalization of gate jumpers is too little. To be consistent, maybe government should subsidize them a bit more. I say more because I highly suspect that the fare evaders are already on the dole and probably have free rides subsidized so could well afford to pay. In the highly taxed gulag where I exist, the welfare bunnies (of all colors, white included), get “free” taxi rides, so where’s the viande de lapin?

    Furthermore, I wonder if anyone has ever seen a headline reading:

    White Guys Attempt to Sink the USS Liberty.

    Why or why not? Their behavior was never even criminalized, and in fact ignored by most, excused by many, and subsidized by the masses, but I may be tilting at whiny windbags.

  165. Rich says:
    @jacques sheete

    That was what the NYC police thought in the 70s and 80s. Then under Mayor Giuliani they began arresting turnstile jumpers and discovered that the subway crime numbers decreased astronomically. And of course there’s the question of fairness and paying for the system. I’m sure you’re not trying to deny that blacks in the US commit more crime, statistically, than Whites, are you?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  166. @eah

    You know, your snide set-them-rubes-straight persona is not interesting at all…

    But yours is? Whine, whine, whine…that’s what you call interesting? You think the dufus mantras against blacks in general is interesting? Count me out.

    — in fact, it’s just obnoxious and tiresome.

    It’s meant to be. And if you can’t handle the truth, then just block or ignore me. Be. My. Guest.

    So just fuck off.

    Thanks for the laughs, but next time make an effort to contribute something somewhat useful.

  167. PaleRider says:
    @Tim

    I could be convinced that they ARE likely handicapped by nature in terms of cognitive ability and personality disorder – but yes, they should go through the process of getting a tag.

  168. @Godfree Roberts

    Did you also post this exact same thing on the Japan Now website?

  169. These slurs are manufactured daily, en masse, by experts, then repeated in hundreds of ‘news’ outlets. Do you expect me to come up with original responses to each recurrence?

  170. eah says:
    @Nicolás Palacios

    a doctoral or scholarly dissertation

    So the difference between your comment without and with a link is that with a link it would have been similar to “a doctoral or scholarly dissertation” — got it.

    Dude, why not just admit that your comment contained false/embellished claims aka “details”, principally she: 1) dodged the fare, and 2) refused to make room for an old lady when specifically asked to do so — and that without those “details”, your story of a bratty Hispanic HS bitch who grew an attitude when a cop asked her to remove her feet from a seat is a lot less interesting, not to mention less relevant as a comment on a fare dodging story.

    some details may be off

    OK

    “those details were mentioned”

    I see — so which “details” in your comment were “off”? — ie if not those which I could not confirm?

    • Replies: @Nicolás Palacios
  171. eah says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Do we need to know beyond a reasonable doubt about the fare-jumping?

    Uhh, yeah — I do anyway — see, I have this habit of not making false statements about people and their alleged offenses against public order — nor do I want to see others do it — what is it with people like you? — why are you interested in seeing this girl made out to be worse than she is? — do future defendants a favor and decline jury duty.

    I won’t dispute any of the rest, ie that race had something to do with both her behavior and the way the encounter escalated (white cop asks dumb Hispanic HS bitch with attitude to get her feet off the seat), including the reaction of the crowd, although as I pointed out the guy who filmed it is pretty clearly white, and he is also appealing to the cop, whom he sees as using unreasonable force to pull the girl off the train.

    But I was simply unable to find any evidence that she dodged the fare (in the video she specifically says she did not) or openly refused to remove her feet to allow an elderly woman to sit down — for the record, I think both of those claims are false.

  172. eah says:
    @Anon

    She was in one of the seats in the front reserved for elderly and handicapped.

    Perhaps this is true (no idea) — but a simple viewing of the video (did you bother?) shows everything else in your comment is wrong — she was clearly sitting at the window with her feet on the seat across from her — the women sitting next to her, on the aisle, wearing a light brown coat, gets up and leaves as the confrontation with the cop escalates — she wasn’t blocking any aisle — the cop was standing in the aisle while talking to her — fucking hell man.

  173. @Rich

    I’m sure you’re not trying to deny that blacks in the US commit more crime, statistically, than Whites, are you?

    Like Wally said, everyone knows it. What I don’t get is the kicking the peons and harping on something “everyone already knows” when there are much bigger fish to fry. Seems to me it does about as much good as swatting at gnats, especially when there’s a mama bear on yer tail.

    The whole system is corrupt to the core, so what do people expect of the little fools?
    Please ‘splain it to me if you can.

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Truth
  174. Rich says:
    @jacques sheete

    Respect for the law and punishment when committing crimes against the persons or property of others. That’s all we expect. And all we want is to be left alone. Unfortunately, the government won’t allow us that basic human right.

  175. @Anon

    ‘…The middle and upper classes lost their cheap labor and the nationalist educated middle class was humiliated. It was the mass exodus of peasants and workers for the American upper Midwest that forced the Swedish government to establish socialism.’

    I s’spicioned as much. That’s interesting. Why am I so goddamned right all the time? It’s genuinely perplexing.

  176. @jacques sheete

    ‘So was Upton Sinclair, and though he had his biases too, I think the criticisms were warranted. Many still are.’

    Oh for sure. America is not perfection realized at last – today more so than ever, I have to sadly admit.

    However, these wild accusations that we’re evil incarnate are are so far off base they’re merely irritating rather than something to be seriously addressed.

    To get back to the point, I find Sweden interesting. It’s governing philosophy is totally different than America’s. Okay: go for it. Do what you want. Don’t spank your children. Whatever. I spent a few days in Stockholm. It was nice; I have no desire to imitate it, but it was nice. Have at it.

    However, Sweden seems unwilling to reciprocate. It’s not just American power that bugs them; they cannot accept that we might have different values than they do.

  177. Truth says:
    @jacques sheete

    Richie is fishing for minnows. If he catches 40, he’ll have dinner.

  178. @eah

    I’d answer that, but you seem to have worked yourself up into a fine lather over this matter, investing a considerable amount of time attempting to debunk a single comment that casually spilled out from my fingers in a matter of a minute or so. So I’ll leave that for you to find. Have at it and enjoy then.

    Again, had this been a serious article or essay published under my name, I would have judiciously scritinized and verified any information being disseminated before posting. A comment online? I just react and rely on how I remember things. That’s all.

    Nevertheless, your admirable thoroughness in fact-checking and link sharing clearly demonstrates what heights of sublimity can be wrought from the fine art of online commenting. Someday when you finally must ascend from this physical realm, we commentator dilettantes shall surely continue to speak of your name in hushed reverence as we read it from the sacred tomes in which your ageless deeds will be inscribed; an eternal beacon of learning to future generations of lesser commenting mortals.

  179. @anon

    Shlomo cries out in pain as he hits you.

    Tyrone seyz dat be waycis sheeeeeeeet as he robz you.

  180. Kim says:
    @jacques sheete

    There has been cannibalism and slavery in Africa for thousands of years. Blacks have adapted or evolved to those social arrangements, which is why they are typically devoid of human empathy.

    In contrast, slavery was ended in Africa by whites.

  181. Amerika’s got nigatrophy. Multiculturalism doesn’t work but by the time this simple truth is acknowledged it’ll be all over.

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