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“Merit-based immigration” is seen as the gold standard of immigration reform by many Republicans and conservative policy wonks. But it could lead to their political ruin.

We already have a clear window into what a merit-based policy could bring to the political landscape: look at the Indian colonization of Seattle’s Eastside—the area across Lake Washington from Seattle which stretches from Sammamish in the south to Bothell in the north. It has been transformed, in roughly 25 years, from a region that leaned Republican into a cesspool of socialism.

It all started with the rise of Bill Gates’ Microsoft in Redmond, followed by likeminded corporate titans who gorged themselves on the delights of Indian staffing agencies that exploit the H1-B visa program. Once a foreign worker’s H1B status expires in six years, them it’s time for an employment-based green card. These green cards have for years been handed out like popcorn with curry on top to almost any Indian techie who agrees to work for, on average, one-third lower pay than American tech workers. [Wages Falling But Congress Wants MORE Guest Workers, by Leo Hohmann, WND.com, March 16, 2016]

In 1969 the first Indian-migrant family arrived in Redmond [What It Was Like To Be Redmond’s First Indian Family, by Liz Jones, Kuow.org, November 18, 2014]

By 2014 Redmond had 7,921 Indians and Microsoft had transformed the city’s demographics [Redmond, WA Population and Races, USA.com, 2010-2014 statistics]

In the words of a retired academic who resides on Washington’s Willapa Bay coastline and blogs at darkgalaxies.org:

Microsoft was an American-led company for many years until its upper leadership became Indian, beginning with the head of personnel some 20 or so years ago. Although the data released by the company is hard to interpret, employees note that the firm is a plurality Indian company in employees, as well as in leadership.

(Pretty clever of the Indians to colonize Microsoft. Pretty foolish to let the Indians colonize Microsoft.)

[Microsoft Diversity Policy, by Admin 777, February 25, 2018]

While Microsoft was turning Redmond into an Indian colony, similar transformations were taking place all over the Eastside. In King County (which also includes Seattle, although most Indians live on the Eastside) the population was 4,000 by 1990. But, as Kuow.org’s Jones wrote:

Then the Microsoft ‘Boom’ happened. And since 1990, the Asian Indian population in King County has tripled every decade. Census estimates from 2013 show 58,465 Indians living in King County.

But I wonder if the quoted numbers are too low. Indians occupy hundreds of apartment complexes and you can drive for miles through new developments of single-family homes where you see Indian women walking on the sidewalks wearing traditional Indian dress. I hear of classrooms in which virtually every student is Indian. You can go into a big-box store in Redmond and the large crowd of shoppers is overwhelmingly Indian—only two or three whites are visible at any given time.

There are an estimated 13,500 illegal Indians in Washington State. And, according to an Indian advocacy group, there are 300,000 Indians waiting to obtain employment-based green cards in the US and 30,000 in Washington State. [Birds In A Cage: The Indian Green Card Backlog, by Melissa Hellmann, Seattle Times, February 21, 2018]

The huge influx of Indians may seem harmless—other than to the displaced American workers, but who cares about them?—but the political fallout impacts everyone in Washington State.

The 45th Legislative District—which stretches along much of the Eastside (including the suburbs of Redmond)—had a Republican representing it in the Washington State Senate. But when Republican Sen. Andy Hill died it became a foregone conclusion that, given Indian leftist propensities (a National Asian-American survey found 77 percent of Indian voters voted for Hillary against Trump), Indian Democrat Manka Dhingra would win.

Alexander Burns and Kirk Johnson reported for the New York Times:

Dow Constantine, the King County executive and a Democrat, said that the once very real political divisions of the region—Democratic-leaning Seattle on the West Side of Lake Washington, Republican-leaning enclaves to the east—have been shattered by demographic change, too, especially as the immigrants who came to work in tech jobs encouraged others in the countries they left to follow them.

[Poised for West Coast Dominance, Democrats Eye Grand Agenda, by Alexander Burns and Kirk Johnson, New York Times, November 4, 2017]

The significance of this: the election of Dhingra gave the Democrats control of the Washington State Senate—they already had the House and the governor’s mansion. That virtually guarantees Washington residents will be subjected to the full Democrat wish list—a carbon tax, an income tax, a capital-gains tax, a tax per-mile driven, and wholesale gun-control laws.

It also means more resistance to President Trump’s efforts to enforce immigration laws. Sujeet Rajan wrote in News India:

…Dhingra’s win will also be an endorsement of many of the liberal, anti-Trump positions she has taken, including supporting the now nationally-recognized state Attorney General Bob Ferguson in his numerous lawsuits to overturn Trump’s travel ban on some Muslim countries, and help illegal immigrants from deportation…

[Why Manka Dhingra Is Important For Democrats, by Sujeet Rajan, New India Times, October 13, 2017]

Unfortunately, the election of aggressive, Leftist, pro-immigration, anti-enforcement Indian politicians is not confined to Washington State. All over the country there are Indian and Asian enclaves created by the tech industry’s desire for a cheap imported workforce. And all over the country there are an increasing number of Indians seeking political power. Ronak D. Desai in Forbes reported a statement by Deepak Raj and Raj Goyle:

At a time when so many of our values are under attack, Indian Americans are stepping up to run, win, and lead. Last Tuesday, 25 of them won their elections in New Jersey, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington State. We already know of 50 candidates on the ballot next November—so it is critical that we lay the groundwork now to elect the most viable candidates who reflect our community’s values. Our community is on the rise.

[Why Indian Americans Were Among The Biggest Winners in U.S. State & Local Election, by Ronak Desai, Forbes, November 19, 2017]

Forbes’ Desai noted that five Indians were elected to Congress—all Democrats.

Why do Indians vote this way? In an interesting analysis, Jayant Bhandari writes that “India is an extremely irrational, superstitious, and tribal country…India was long associated with Britain and has imported western institutions, ways of living, technology, etc., over the last 200-300 years, but has failed to import the concept of reason.”

Bhandari goes on:

[Indians] can only think in terms of might is right, street-smartness and political connections. Such a society cannot have any understanding of the principles of the Ten Commandments, or have respect for the individual and liberty.”

Bhandari writes of India’s Hindu nationalist Prime Minister Modi:

Under Modi’s reign, as the institutions which the British left continue to get destroyed, liberties are falling, taxes are going up without any improvements in public service, and the regulatory burden has increased significantly. The country is getting increasingly centralized as well, and brought under Modi’s command. He believes he has to do more of all these things to ensure India remains on a path to growth. This is a recipe for disaster.

[India: The World’s Fastest Growing Large Economy, by Jayant Bhandari, Acting Man, February 2, 2017]

Is it any wonder Indians in America overwhelmingly vote for the same kind of government? Ironically, because of short-term greed, corporate elites are bringing in future voters who will impose a high-tax, centralized, and over-regulated anti-business regime here—a regime which would certainly not have given corporations the recent historic tax cut and ongoing deregulation?

But if Indians aren’t the right choice for merit-based immigration, then who—Chinese? A Chinese friend of mine who recently visited Taiwan told me that Taiwanese are increasingly siding with Mainland China because they want to be on the side of a country growing in wealth and power. This person said trying to talk to them about human rights, freedom, and democracy was like trying to upload a new brain to a robot.

This friend agreed that the combination of an ancient culture and new wealth tends to give both Indians and Chinese an arrogant feeling of superiority—that they have nothing to learn from Americans about individual freedom and democracy. They are here to make money. They don’t want to assimilate and become real Americans.

The only chance of saving the freedom created by our Founding Fathers: a moratorium on all immigration.

Jesse Mossman [email him] writes from an undisclosed location somewhere in America.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Ivan says:

    There is a much simpler explanation of why Indians vote for the Left in the US. They are world’s ranking hypocrites along with Muslims and Jews.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    LOL! So says a presumably white degenerate from a kind whose perceived racial superiority was predicated on insatiable Greed, Psychopathy, Mendacity, and last but not least, Hypocrisy.
    , @Macon Richardson
    Basically, you are saying that anyone not like you is a hypocrite. Your assertion has conflated one and a half billion Muslims, twelve million Jews and one billion non-Muslim Indians. I counted them up on my fingers and you have indicted over two and a half billion people as being hypocrites simply because of their religious or national origin. You have indicted one third of the world based on what? Personal prejudice?

    Such reckless counting, such reckless categorizing is an abomination. Rather than aggregating a two and a half billion cohort that you do n0t like, why not turn an eye to the government that allows these or any other people to come to the United States. There are actually some processes available for changing how that government conducts its business. But to ineffectually scorn two and a half billion people seems a futile gesture, one designed to exalt smugness rather than improvement.
    , @utu
    You are absolutely correct. It works for them for now but they are the greatest racists themselves who do not believe in egalitarian society..
    , @Dagon Shield
    Indian-Americans (green card holders and undocumented/illegal can't vote) voting for liberals reflect their awareness that only 70 years ago the holocaust happened and also, their own forebears were colonized as well as, African Americans didn't get civil rights without fighting even to this day. As long as there are enough whites who talk about the need to put people of color in their places, they are not going to vote Republican.
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  2. Jason Liu says:

    This article is filled with errors and outdated, contradictory thinking.

    Indians are the one group most likely to genuinely believe in western liberalism, other minority groups vote left for self-interest while being more conservative in private. Your analysis is skewed by a small number of hypocritical conservative Indians while missing the larger liberal trend. This makes Indians a particularly dangerous group, because they are the only one capable of emulating western SJWism, while every other non-white group leans authoritarian over time.

    In fact, Modi is fighting an uphill battle against the encroachment of western liberalism, mostly spearheaded by Indian elites. If more Indians were really Modi-loving nationalists, their leftist voting patterns would mostly be a sham and less problematic in the realm of ideological conflict.

    Many Chinese, Indians, and probably others regard western rhetoric about freedom, human rights, and democracy as gateway drugs, if not a Trojan Horse for western degeneracy. And they are right. Go speak to a white liberal about restricting immigration and they’ll start lecturing you about freedom, rights, and democracy. Same with every other issue the right cares about. Awfully strange of you to advocate for others the same values that caused the problems you complain about.

    Granted, you may believe in freedom, rights and democracy in the old-school, strictly constitutional sense. That definition is no longer in use today. Today, western values is little more than a generic appeal to “being nice”, tolerating everything, and fetishizing equality. This is why western media constantly accuses right-wing populists of tearing down liberal institutions and undermining democracy, even though they were democratically elected. In other words, western values = leftism.

    So us foreign critics are not oblivious to your values, we actually see them more clearly than Jesse Mossman. Which is exactly why we don’t want them.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Interesting comment, but what is the connection with Indian immigration into the United States?

    Like other commentators, my preference would be for a 40-60 year complete moratorium on any immigration to see if we can somehow sort out the mess we have.
    , @An indian
    On dot. And kudos for pointing out the hypocrisy/stupidity of westerners who talk of protecting their heritage on the one hand, while also identifying as the core of their culture the very same things that are the cause of the problems they face today.
    , @Thomm

    because they are the only one capable of emulating western SJWism, while every other non-white group leans authoritarian over time.
     
    Only because Indians have been under democracy longer, so the problems of democracy (feminism, etc.) have had longer to manifest.
    , @KenH

    Indians are the one group most likely to genuinely believe in western liberalism, other minority groups vote left for self-interest while being more conservative in private.
     
    That isn't reflected in India or for that matter, in the Indian diaspora here in America. If it was they would be opening up their nation to mass immigration from Mexico, Africa and Europe since diversity is a strength and enacting social welfare programs to assist "untouchables" and those occupying society's bottom rungs.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/15/india-caste-system-70-anniversary-independence-day-untouchables

    Even the Indian elites who you say have embraced western liberalism are not, to my knowledge, taking it to the point of racial and national suicide as white western liberals are. And the diaspora here in the U.S. are way underrepresented in the SJW movement. Few if any Indians are seen at large SJW protests although I'm sure there's probably a few. So how exactly is Indian liberalism manifested?

    I think Indians see the Democrat party as a vehicle to further their racial interests just as blacks, Latinos Orientals and other minorities do. The Democrats are the party of socialism and big government so Indians feel at home since that's what they know and what is natural to them.

    It's not because they subscribe to black supremacy and homosexual and transgender rights. Sure, they may tolerate these things (and tolerate them since the DNC wisely isn't forcing it on them) but it doesn't mean they agree with them. They're just looking at the big picture which is an increase in wealth, political power and clout.

    , @Tyrion 2
    Agreed. Educated Indians are very often genuinely PC. They constantly virtue signal against Modi who clearly represents a counter-vailing force to all of their progressive nonsense.

    Modi is not exactly the same as Trump. He is Indian. He is however his equivalent and gets all of the vitriol from Indian elites in exactly the same way. Netanyahu is another, as is Putin as is Orban.

    They all represent a reasonable, rational alternative to the progressive cult.

    Interestingly, MBS in Saudi Arabia also occupies the same space but his main rival is the Jihadi cult.

    , @The Alarmist
    Indian society is all about getting-over on others. It is a low-trust society.

    "This friend agreed that the combination of an ancient culture and new wealth tends to give both Indians and Chinese an arrogant feeling of superiority—that they have nothing to learn from Americans about individual freedom and democracy."
     
    They don't believe in American Institutions. They just want to plunder them, because there is so much more to plunder here.
    , @Nutella
    Good then go back to China and enjoy your totalitarianism. It has no place here.

    And enjoy all the jobs, industries, and technologies you’ve stolen from us because without white American invention, you Chinese and Indians would still be slurping noodles in a mud puddle.
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  3. Nikki Haley: Indian-American. Need one say more?

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    • Replies: @Seamus Day
    Aka, Nimrata Randhawa. Is there anything worse than a low-IQed, ziocon stooge Indian who promotes WWIII? She’s orders of magnitude worse than anyone G.W. Bush had.
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  4. DFH says:

    But if Indians aren’t the right choice for merit-based immigration, then who

    Why not other white people?

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Why not American born Whites instead of foreign Whites?

    We’re not all 80 IQ hillbillies. I went to college with the young White men who created the tech industry. Every one was a White native born American.
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  5. @Jason Liu
    This article is filled with errors and outdated, contradictory thinking.

    Indians are the one group most likely to genuinely believe in western liberalism, other minority groups vote left for self-interest while being more conservative in private. Your analysis is skewed by a small number of hypocritical conservative Indians while missing the larger liberal trend. This makes Indians a particularly dangerous group, because they are the only one capable of emulating western SJWism, while every other non-white group leans authoritarian over time.

    In fact, Modi is fighting an uphill battle against the encroachment of western liberalism, mostly spearheaded by Indian elites. If more Indians were really Modi-loving nationalists, their leftist voting patterns would mostly be a sham and less problematic in the realm of ideological conflict.

    Many Chinese, Indians, and probably others regard western rhetoric about freedom, human rights, and democracy as gateway drugs, if not a Trojan Horse for western degeneracy. And they are right. Go speak to a white liberal about restricting immigration and they'll start lecturing you about freedom, rights, and democracy. Same with every other issue the right cares about. Awfully strange of you to advocate for others the same values that caused the problems you complain about.

    Granted, you may believe in freedom, rights and democracy in the old-school, strictly constitutional sense. That definition is no longer in use today. Today, western values is little more than a generic appeal to "being nice", tolerating everything, and fetishizing equality. This is why western media constantly accuses right-wing populists of tearing down liberal institutions and undermining democracy, even though they were democratically elected. In other words, western values = leftism.

    So us foreign critics are not oblivious to your values, we actually see them more clearly than Jesse Mossman. Which is exactly why we don't want them.

    Interesting comment, but what is the connection with Indian immigration into the United States?

    Like other commentators, my preference would be for a 40-60 year complete moratorium on any immigration to see if we can somehow sort out the mess we have.

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  6. An indian says:
    @Jason Liu
    This article is filled with errors and outdated, contradictory thinking.

    Indians are the one group most likely to genuinely believe in western liberalism, other minority groups vote left for self-interest while being more conservative in private. Your analysis is skewed by a small number of hypocritical conservative Indians while missing the larger liberal trend. This makes Indians a particularly dangerous group, because they are the only one capable of emulating western SJWism, while every other non-white group leans authoritarian over time.

    In fact, Modi is fighting an uphill battle against the encroachment of western liberalism, mostly spearheaded by Indian elites. If more Indians were really Modi-loving nationalists, their leftist voting patterns would mostly be a sham and less problematic in the realm of ideological conflict.

    Many Chinese, Indians, and probably others regard western rhetoric about freedom, human rights, and democracy as gateway drugs, if not a Trojan Horse for western degeneracy. And they are right. Go speak to a white liberal about restricting immigration and they'll start lecturing you about freedom, rights, and democracy. Same with every other issue the right cares about. Awfully strange of you to advocate for others the same values that caused the problems you complain about.

    Granted, you may believe in freedom, rights and democracy in the old-school, strictly constitutional sense. That definition is no longer in use today. Today, western values is little more than a generic appeal to "being nice", tolerating everything, and fetishizing equality. This is why western media constantly accuses right-wing populists of tearing down liberal institutions and undermining democracy, even though they were democratically elected. In other words, western values = leftism.

    So us foreign critics are not oblivious to your values, we actually see them more clearly than Jesse Mossman. Which is exactly why we don't want them.

    On dot. And kudos for pointing out the hypocrisy/stupidity of westerners who talk of protecting their heritage on the one hand, while also identifying as the core of their culture the very same things that are the cause of the problems they face today.

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  7. Thomm says:
    @Jason Liu
    This article is filled with errors and outdated, contradictory thinking.

    Indians are the one group most likely to genuinely believe in western liberalism, other minority groups vote left for self-interest while being more conservative in private. Your analysis is skewed by a small number of hypocritical conservative Indians while missing the larger liberal trend. This makes Indians a particularly dangerous group, because they are the only one capable of emulating western SJWism, while every other non-white group leans authoritarian over time.

    In fact, Modi is fighting an uphill battle against the encroachment of western liberalism, mostly spearheaded by Indian elites. If more Indians were really Modi-loving nationalists, their leftist voting patterns would mostly be a sham and less problematic in the realm of ideological conflict.

    Many Chinese, Indians, and probably others regard western rhetoric about freedom, human rights, and democracy as gateway drugs, if not a Trojan Horse for western degeneracy. And they are right. Go speak to a white liberal about restricting immigration and they'll start lecturing you about freedom, rights, and democracy. Same with every other issue the right cares about. Awfully strange of you to advocate for others the same values that caused the problems you complain about.

    Granted, you may believe in freedom, rights and democracy in the old-school, strictly constitutional sense. That definition is no longer in use today. Today, western values is little more than a generic appeal to "being nice", tolerating everything, and fetishizing equality. This is why western media constantly accuses right-wing populists of tearing down liberal institutions and undermining democracy, even though they were democratically elected. In other words, western values = leftism.

    So us foreign critics are not oblivious to your values, we actually see them more clearly than Jesse Mossman. Which is exactly why we don't want them.

    because they are the only one capable of emulating western SJWism, while every other non-white group leans authoritarian over time.

    Only because Indians have been under democracy longer, so the problems of democracy (feminism, etc.) have had longer to manifest.

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    Nope.

    The problem originates with Indians themselves.

    It has to do with the caste system and how that skews high caste Indians into virtue signaling SJW.

    Indian society is what America would look like if SJW win. Importing more Indians just accelerates the process.

    Just look at Canada and what the massive influx of Indians have done to that country. Unprecedented immigration and Tredeau.
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  8. Thomm says:

    Jesse Mossman is pretty ignorant. How did a WN wigger get to write an article here?

    From what I understand, Modi is right-wing, and restricts Muslims a lot. That is good.

    Furthermore, H1-Bs have an average salary only 15% lower than local Americans. Not two-thirds lower, as Jesse Mossman ignorantly claims without any source.

    H1-B should be abolished outright, but for other reasons.

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    From what I understand, Modi is right-wing, and restricts Muslims a lot. That is good.

     

    Modi's brand of right-wing degeneracy;

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/13/asia/india-child-rape-jammu-intl/index.html

    The salient points;
    1. 8yr old Muslim girl, raped, tortured, murdered.
    2. By hindu nationalist scum (6 of them, one of them over 60yrs old)
    3. All within their bloody temple, for 5 days.
    4. After the deed, the mofers from the rapist community in the area go on marches in support of the rapists, shouting praises of their flag, and of their "lord" ram.
    5. Two BJP Modi-asslicking leaders are among the marchers, inciting the mob.
    6. All hindu lawyers in the area move to quash the creation of the chargesheet against the rapists.
    7. Those same scum threaten a woman lawyer who has come forward to prosecute the rapists, with rape and death threats.

    So, does this get your, "that is good," stamp of approval?

    , @Intelligent Dasein

    From what I understand, Modi is right-wing, and restricts Muslims a lot. That is good.
     
    Modi is an insane freak who crucified India's rural economy with his ban on large banknotes. He cares nothing for people. Like a typical Indian douchebag, he wants only wealth and popularity for himself, irrespective of how his vain pursuits affect the larger world.
    , @Seamus Padraig

    Furthermore, H1-Bs have an average salary only 15% lower than local Americans. Not two-thirds lower, as Jesse Mossman ignorantly claims without any source.
     
    Actually, he only said one-third lower:

    "These green cards have for years been handed out like popcorn with curry on top to almost any Indian techie who agrees to work for, on average, one-third lower pay than American tech workers."
     
    And whether it's really 33% lower or 15% lower, one way or the other the handwriting is on the wall.
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  9. direwolf says:

    The transition from H1B to Green Card is difficult and time-consuming, particularly for Indians because of country-based quotas. Mossman doesn’t know what he’s writing about.

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    • Replies: @Thomm

    Mossman doesn’t know what he’s writing about.
     
    Of course he does not.

    Remember there are two types of white people. The intelligent, successful type, and the bottom 20%. There is unusually high variance in white people, which is why the bottom quintile of whites is noteworthy to a greater extent than in other groups.

    The men of this bottom 20% become White Trashionalists. The women become the fat bluehaired feminists.

    The rest of us (the top 80%) hate this group, which is why White Nationalism really has no mainstream support in America.

    There are needs to restrict illegal immigration and legal unskilled immigration. Not every H1-B deserves to come here. But you will never get to a point were even 30% of white Americans opposed skilled immigration.

    Mossman is just an ignorant demagogue.
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  10. Rational says:

    WHY DID MICROSOFT IMPORT INDIANS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

    This is an interesting article, and I agree immigration should be banned.

    But most companies I worked with me told me they CANNOT find enough white workers.

    This is because whites are too busy , smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating, fooling around, partying, and having “fun” and not marrying and not having children and dying off.

    If whites stopped smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating for years and instead married early and had many white children, these companies will not need to import aliens.

    We have met the enemy–and the enemy is us.

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    If whites stopped smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating for years and instead married early and had many white children, these companies will not need to import aliens.

    We have met the enemy–and the enemy is us.
     
    Yep.
    , @KenH

    But most companies I worked with me told me they CANNOT find enough white workers.
     
    Somehow I doubt companies admitted to you that they desperately want to hire more white employees but that, gosh darn it, there just isn't enough of them. These days corporations are going out of their way and breaking their own policies and federal law to hire non-whites over whites to meet diversity targets which exceed what the law requires. There's still plenty of qualified whites around.

    White women have delayed child bearing until their thirties so they could enter the workforce to "run with the wolves" and compete with men thanks largely to Jewish feminism which teaches women to seek careers and independence rather than marriage and family. And I remember in the late 90's and into the early 21 century white women who did bear several white children were often mocked as "white trash" by the (((media))) especially if they resided in smaller locales.

    Please cite the source where universities and corporations are making a racial appeal to white women to bear children much earlier so that they can grow up and displace the H1B's who corporations love because they do work for much less than the natives.
    , @bartok

    But most companies I worked with me told me
     
    Let me be your Dear Abby - 20 lashes with a wet noodle.

    You dare to spout boilerplate neoliberal/libertarian cant here at Unz.com? Have you read any of the 2 million words at iSteve?

    , @anon

    This is because whites are too busy , smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating, fooling around, partying, and having “fun” and not marrying and not having children and dying off.
     
    No, it's because companies refuse to hire anyone over 45. They have no incentive to since they pretty much have the world's labor supply at their finger tips. India has an unlimited supply of young males who will happily lie through their teeth on their resumes to get here, and they are willing to work for dirt wages.
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  11. Thomm says:
    @direwolf
    The transition from H1B to Green Card is difficult and time-consuming, particularly for Indians because of country-based quotas. Mossman doesn't know what he's writing about.

    Mossman doesn’t know what he’s writing about.

    Of course he does not.

    Remember there are two types of white people. The intelligent, successful type, and the bottom 20%. There is unusually high variance in white people, which is why the bottom quintile of whites is noteworthy to a greater extent than in other groups.

    The men of this bottom 20% become White Trashionalists. The women become the fat bluehaired feminists.

    The rest of us (the top 80%) hate this group, which is why White Nationalism really has no mainstream support in America.

    There are needs to restrict illegal immigration and legal unskilled immigration. Not every H1-B deserves to come here. But you will never get to a point were even 30% of white Americans opposed skilled immigration.

    Mossman is just an ignorant demagogue.

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    You are extremely unpleasant. It would be nice if you disappeared.
    , @Thorfinnsson
    The bottom quintile of whites is largely not political at all, though some fraction consists of white trashionalists, especially men who have been to prison.

    Bluehaired feminists do not come from the bottom quintile of white society at all. They have no exposure to university-bred SJWism. They do become obese unless they develop a meth habit however.
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  12. Thomm says:
    @Rational
    WHY DID MICROSOFT IMPORT INDIANS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

    This is an interesting article, and I agree immigration should be banned.

    But most companies I worked with me told me they CANNOT find enough white workers.

    This is because whites are too busy , smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating, fooling around, partying, and having "fun" and not marrying and not having children and dying off.

    If whites stopped smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating for years and instead married early and had many white children, these companies will not need to import aliens.

    We have met the enemy--and the enemy is us.

    If whites stopped smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating for years and instead married early and had many white children, these companies will not need to import aliens.

    We have met the enemy–and the enemy is us.

    Yep.

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  13. KenH says:
    @Rational
    WHY DID MICROSOFT IMPORT INDIANS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

    This is an interesting article, and I agree immigration should be banned.

    But most companies I worked with me told me they CANNOT find enough white workers.

    This is because whites are too busy , smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating, fooling around, partying, and having "fun" and not marrying and not having children and dying off.

    If whites stopped smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating for years and instead married early and had many white children, these companies will not need to import aliens.

    We have met the enemy--and the enemy is us.

    But most companies I worked with me told me they CANNOT find enough white workers.

    Somehow I doubt companies admitted to you that they desperately want to hire more white employees but that, gosh darn it, there just isn’t enough of them. These days corporations are going out of their way and breaking their own policies and federal law to hire non-whites over whites to meet diversity targets which exceed what the law requires. There’s still plenty of qualified whites around.

    White women have delayed child bearing until their thirties so they could enter the workforce to “run with the wolves” and compete with men thanks largely to Jewish feminism which teaches women to seek careers and independence rather than marriage and family. And I remember in the late 90′s and into the early 21 century white women who did bear several white children were often mocked as “white trash” by the (((media))) especially if they resided in smaller locales.

    Please cite the source where universities and corporations are making a racial appeal to white women to bear children much earlier so that they can grow up and displace the H1B’s who corporations love because they do work for much less than the natives.

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    Please cite the source where universities and corporations are making a racial appeal to white women to bear children much earlier so that they can grow up and displace the H1B’s who corporations love
     
    This is spot on. There are a lot of reasons for these things happening. Some of them due to ethnic animus (Jew vs Gentile) and some due to group think on the part of corporations. It's as if for the past 2 decades or more US companies decided that they would make more money if they pay people less. However, this assumption became institutionalized and it is now fully on autopilot in corporate America.

    Off topic, but H1B is not the only crap we're having to swallow as a result of this development. Take Hollywood for example. Steve Sailer pointed out that after the show Friends was cancelled producers started creating shows where they didn't have to pay actors so much to act. "Survivor" was born along with a multitude of reality TV shows where common people get a chance to be on a hit TV show with little to nothing of a salary.

    A few years ago The Walking Dead was a huge hit but now that the actors are asking to actually get paid well to be on the show, AMC's approach to handling the situation is to kill off long time favorite characters like Carl Grimes (rumor has it that several other popular characters will be leaving because AMC refusing to give them the raises they've asked for) and to replace them with more "diverse" characters that no one gives a crap about. They are going to bleed The Walking Dead IP dry for a quick buck and then leave it in tatters.

    Same thing with Star Wars. Recently Disney/Lucasfilm has been lambasted for copyright infringement: instead of hiring good artists to create original artwork for their posters on the new movie "Solo: A Star Wars Story" they copied an almost identical design from a French graphic designer who is now suing Disney.

    US companies are getting lazy and they are destroying their long term legacy (not to mention the US's legacy) just to save a few bucks on employees.
    , @Stonehands

    White women have delayed child bearing until their thirties so they could enter the workforce to “run with the wolves” and compete with men thanks largely to Jewish feminism which teaches women to seek careers and independence rather than marriage and family.
     
    A country has the Jews it deserves, they can only thrive in the swamp of our sins.
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  14. M. Thomas says:

    This essay is completely detached from reality. As someone who has actually worked at Microsoft as a software engineer, I can assure you that there was indeed a ‘colonization’ of Microsoft – by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian.

    Why are most of them Indian? Because India provides free higher education for students who qualify. This includes degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. This directly results in India creating many more qualified software engineers than the U.S. In fact, the U.S. is graduating fewer and fewer professionals in computer science, presumably because of the exorbitant cost and crushing debt.

    If the U.S. wants to ‘colonize’ Microsoft with white Americans, then I suggest America follow India’s example and provide high quality, free education. It’s really that simple.

    Oh, and yes these Indians are socialists because their high paying jobs at Microsoft (and Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) are the direct result of the quality education they received in a socialist system. Rather than criticizing in an obviously racist way, perhaps we should learn something.

    Best,
    M. Thomas

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    In fact, the U.S. is graduating fewer and fewer professionals in computer science, presumably because of the exorbitant cost and crushing debt.
     
    I think the primary culprit in the US is the subsidization of single motherhood (something Democrats and cuckservatives are both enthusiastic about). A child raised by a single mother may turn out 'okay', but will certainly not go into STEM, as nothing about his upbringing would even make him aware of that possibility.
    , @DB Cooper
    If you want to get some reality, here is the reality. I have not seen a single programming competition that shows Indians perform at a level that is considered even remotely good compare to their counterparts in other countries. In fact Indians performance are VERY bad. Here is a typical example

    https://www.computerworld.com/article/2525109/app-development/china-dominates-nsa-backed-coding-contest.html

    Here is an excerpt:

    "Programmers from China and Russia have dominated an international competition on everything from writing algorithms to designing components.
    Whether the outcome of this competition is another sign that math and science education in the U.S. needs improvement may spur debate. But the fact remains: Of 70 finalists, 20 were from China, 10 from Russia and two from the U.S.
    About 4,200 people participated in the U.S. National Security Agency-supported challenge. The NSA has been sponsoring the program for a number of years because of its interest in hiring people with advanced skills.
    Participants in the contest, which was open to anyone -- from student to professional -- and finished with 120 competitors from around the world, went through a process of elimination that finished this month in Las Vegas.
    China's showing in the finals was also helped by the sheer volume of its numbers, 894. India followed at 705, but none of its programmers were finalists. Russia had 380 participants; the United States, 234; Poland, 214; Egypt, 145; and Ukraine, 128, among others.
    Of the total number of contestants, 93% were male, and 84% were aged between 18 and 24. "


    US programmers are WAY BETTER than the Indian programmers. And you have the gall to lecture the US on education.

    , @peterike

    As someone who has actually worked at Microsoft as a software engineer, I can assure you that there was indeed a ‘colonization’ of Microsoft – by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian.

     

    Complete nonsense. You do know, don't you, that Microsoft was already wildly successful back when it had a handful of Indians working there? So what happened?

    Thanks to various factors, mostly a desire to save money plus a politically Progressive adherence to multi-culturalism, Microsoft (and a thousand other tech companies) started to hire Indians. Among the grunt workers, there are always a few very slick operators, what one might call Jive Talking Indians among them. These people rapidly climbed the greasy pole at Microsoft into management positions (slick talking jive artist + Progressive HR that loved, loved, loved promoting "people of color" = rapid rise up the ladder).

    Once in a position of management, the Indians would only hire other Indians. Often, this funnel went right back to their specific home town or university. When an engineering group reached a critical mass of Indians, it became uncomfortable for whites to work there. The whites were encouraged to quit, or simply dumped out of Microsoft which used a predatory stack ranking policy which could be easily gamed by Indians to ensure whites got the sack, making room for.... more Indians!

    If you think the rise of Indians in tech is entirely a result of "talent" you are delusional. It was ethnic nepotism and networking to the Nth degree. And this has been going on for decades now.

    At the same time that software was being Asian-ized inside America, American companies were moving hardware technology manufacturing and development overseas, dumping loads of American workers in the process, all in pursuit of greater enrichment for the execs (cheap labor + no environmental or regulatory costs was a huge win for the exec class).

    American workers got screwed across multiple dimensions. But hey, in a way I can't blame the Indians and the Chinese. They were simply taking advantage of an opportunity that was created by white and (((white))) executive management, mostly a group of vile money-grubbers who sold out their nation without batting an eye. The Asians learned very quickly that you could roll American companies with a dual approach of "cheaper-plus-diverse!" This made the execs happy, as their wealth increased, and the Cat Ladies in HR happy because Diversity!!
    , @animalogic
    "Oh, and yes these Indians are socialists because their high paying jobs at Microsoft (and Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) are the direct result of the quality education they received in a socialist system."

    Free tertiary education is not "socialism". (The affects of trillions of $$ of student debt on the current/future economy would suggest its a species of common sense). India is not socialist. At best or worst it retains elements of a Keynesian "mixed economy", like the UK & the US from 1945 to 1980'ish) Indeed, it is a committed capitalist nation. India & its inhabitants want to be rich: that is the simple bit.
    As for the author's profound political confusion, voting or representing the Democratic party is neither left nor Socialist. The democrats as left or socialist is hilarious, if not mind boggling.
    Oh sure, the democrats tend to pander to the PC mob a little more than the others -- ie multiculturalism, feminism blah blah. So, the Indians figure the Dem's are a better bet at getting Aunt & Uncle a green card: yep, real socialists.
    , @AndrewR
    "Free"

    It's hard to take you seriously when you call tax-subsidized education "free." It may be a good idea but it's certainly not free.

    , @anon
    Another Microsoft HR libtard drinking the Magic Indian Kool-Aid, or maybe you're just another Indian in disguise. You need to open your eyes and see the reality of education in India. "Quality" it is not. It's a total farce. Most teachers do not even show up to teach. Per the Economist people who sit for the Indian college entrance exams to supposed top colleges like IIT simply write their phone number on the test so the examiner can call and negotiate a price based on what grade they want. Cheating is rampant and completely in-your-face. Check this out:
    https://www.economist.com/news/asia/21647337-teaching-standards-go-out-window-crib-sheets-come-wall-shame

    The WSJ reported that out of 100 people who apply for a job in a call center in India, only 1 is employable.

    By his own admission, the CEO of Indian outsourcer Infosys said that less than 25% of Indian "engineering college" grads are employable, and even then, all have to be put through an intensive 6 months training before they can be brought to the US.

    Microsoft is the largest employer of Indian techies because Microsoft is no longer the hot tech firm that new graduates want to work for. Top American graduates all want to work for Amazon, Google, Facebook, Apple, uber, Netflix, SpaceX and other hot sexy new startups. Microsoft is seen as an old bureaucratic dinosaur making boring software. Who wants to work on a toolbar button for 5 years? The only people who want to work for them anymore are foreign graduates who want the H1b visa and green card, and scammers in India who get in through outsourcing firms that provide temp staff to Microsoft, which are all over the Seattle area. All want the H1b and eventually, green card. That's why there are now so many Indians in Western WA. They're clannish and liberal, love to hire and promote their own, just like the Jews.

    , @Rdm
    C'mon.... White guys are making easy money, look at Logan Paul. Where got the time to study CS in the first place??
    , @Medvedev

    Oh, and yes these Indians are socialists because their high paying jobs at Microsoft (and Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) are the direct result of the quality education they received in a socialist system.
     
    ROFL The system is so great that half of the population still sh*ts on the street. That receiving a high-quality education allows few people to escape this socialist paradise to evil capitalist America.
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  15. KenH says:
    @Jason Liu
    This article is filled with errors and outdated, contradictory thinking.

    Indians are the one group most likely to genuinely believe in western liberalism, other minority groups vote left for self-interest while being more conservative in private. Your analysis is skewed by a small number of hypocritical conservative Indians while missing the larger liberal trend. This makes Indians a particularly dangerous group, because they are the only one capable of emulating western SJWism, while every other non-white group leans authoritarian over time.

    In fact, Modi is fighting an uphill battle against the encroachment of western liberalism, mostly spearheaded by Indian elites. If more Indians were really Modi-loving nationalists, their leftist voting patterns would mostly be a sham and less problematic in the realm of ideological conflict.

    Many Chinese, Indians, and probably others regard western rhetoric about freedom, human rights, and democracy as gateway drugs, if not a Trojan Horse for western degeneracy. And they are right. Go speak to a white liberal about restricting immigration and they'll start lecturing you about freedom, rights, and democracy. Same with every other issue the right cares about. Awfully strange of you to advocate for others the same values that caused the problems you complain about.

    Granted, you may believe in freedom, rights and democracy in the old-school, strictly constitutional sense. That definition is no longer in use today. Today, western values is little more than a generic appeal to "being nice", tolerating everything, and fetishizing equality. This is why western media constantly accuses right-wing populists of tearing down liberal institutions and undermining democracy, even though they were democratically elected. In other words, western values = leftism.

    So us foreign critics are not oblivious to your values, we actually see them more clearly than Jesse Mossman. Which is exactly why we don't want them.

    Indians are the one group most likely to genuinely believe in western liberalism, other minority groups vote left for self-interest while being more conservative in private.

    That isn’t reflected in India or for that matter, in the Indian diaspora here in America. If it was they would be opening up their nation to mass immigration from Mexico, Africa and Europe since diversity is a strength and enacting social welfare programs to assist “untouchables” and those occupying society’s bottom rungs.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/15/india-caste-system-70-anniversary-independence-day-untouchables

    Even the Indian elites who you say have embraced western liberalism are not, to my knowledge, taking it to the point of racial and national suicide as white western liberals are. And the diaspora here in the U.S. are way underrepresented in the SJW movement. Few if any Indians are seen at large SJW protests although I’m sure there’s probably a few. So how exactly is Indian liberalism manifested?

    I think Indians see the Democrat party as a vehicle to further their racial interests just as blacks, Latinos Orientals and other minorities do. The Democrats are the party of socialism and big government so Indians feel at home since that’s what they know and what is natural to them.

    It’s not because they subscribe to black supremacy and homosexual and transgender rights. Sure, they may tolerate these things (and tolerate them since the DNC wisely isn’t forcing it on them) but it doesn’t mean they agree with them. They’re just looking at the big picture which is an increase in wealth, political power and clout.

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  16. Thomm says:
    @M. Thomas
    This essay is completely detached from reality. As someone who has actually worked at Microsoft as a software engineer, I can assure you that there was indeed a 'colonization' of Microsoft - by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian.

    Why are most of them Indian? Because India provides free higher education for students who qualify. This includes degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. This directly results in India creating many more qualified software engineers than the U.S. In fact, the U.S. is graduating fewer and fewer professionals in computer science, presumably because of the exorbitant cost and crushing debt.

    If the U.S. wants to 'colonize' Microsoft with white Americans, then I suggest America follow India's example and provide high quality, free education. It's really that simple.

    Oh, and yes these Indians are socialists because their high paying jobs at Microsoft (and Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) are the direct result of the quality education they received in a socialist system. Rather than criticizing in an obviously racist way, perhaps we should learn something.

    Best,
    M. Thomas

    In fact, the U.S. is graduating fewer and fewer professionals in computer science, presumably because of the exorbitant cost and crushing debt.

    I think the primary culprit in the US is the subsidization of single motherhood (something Democrats and cuckservatives are both enthusiastic about). A child raised by a single mother may turn out ‘okay’, but will certainly not go into STEM, as nothing about his upbringing would even make him aware of that possibility.

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    If young people are not interested in STEM, then most likely STEM education in middle and high school sucks. I grew up with both parents, but neither of them had any interest in STEM that they could have shared with me. I had, however, the good fortune to meet some excellent science teachers at high school.
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  17. DB Cooper says:
    @M. Thomas
    This essay is completely detached from reality. As someone who has actually worked at Microsoft as a software engineer, I can assure you that there was indeed a 'colonization' of Microsoft - by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian.

    Why are most of them Indian? Because India provides free higher education for students who qualify. This includes degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. This directly results in India creating many more qualified software engineers than the U.S. In fact, the U.S. is graduating fewer and fewer professionals in computer science, presumably because of the exorbitant cost and crushing debt.

    If the U.S. wants to 'colonize' Microsoft with white Americans, then I suggest America follow India's example and provide high quality, free education. It's really that simple.

    Oh, and yes these Indians are socialists because their high paying jobs at Microsoft (and Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) are the direct result of the quality education they received in a socialist system. Rather than criticizing in an obviously racist way, perhaps we should learn something.

    Best,
    M. Thomas

    If you want to get some reality, here is the reality. I have not seen a single programming competition that shows Indians perform at a level that is considered even remotely good compare to their counterparts in other countries. In fact Indians performance are VERY bad. Here is a typical example

    https://www.computerworld.com/article/2525109/app-development/china-dominates-nsa-backed-coding-contest.html

    Here is an excerpt:

    “Programmers from China and Russia have dominated an international competition on everything from writing algorithms to designing components.
    Whether the outcome of this competition is another sign that math and science education in the U.S. needs improvement may spur debate. But the fact remains: Of 70 finalists, 20 were from China, 10 from Russia and two from the U.S.
    About 4,200 people participated in the U.S. National Security Agency-supported challenge. The NSA has been sponsoring the program for a number of years because of its interest in hiring people with advanced skills.
    Participants in the contest, which was open to anyone — from student to professional — and finished with 120 competitors from around the world, went through a process of elimination that finished this month in Las Vegas.
    China’s showing in the finals was also helped by the sheer volume of its numbers, 894. India followed at 705, but none of its programmers were finalists. Russia had 380 participants; the United States, 234; Poland, 214; Egypt, 145; and Ukraine, 128, among others.
    Of the total number of contestants, 93% were male, and 84% were aged between 18 and 24. ”

    US programmers are WAY BETTER than the Indian programmers. And you have the gall to lecture the US on education.

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    Programming competitions have absolutely nothing to do with hiring in the real world.

    Also, the assertion that US programmers are way better than Indian programmers is bizarre and a bit deranged.

    American education is in the toilet. The whole world knows this.
    , @Vojkan
    I have worked some twenty years as a software consultant and Russians are by far the best programmers I have worked with while Indians are not only among the worst, they are also the most delicate. While you had to handle them with great care so as not to hurt their easily hurt emotions, they were nowhere near as touchy when dealing with other people's sensitivity.
    The only reason corporations employ them is that they cost far less. Managers and executives have admitted so much many times already so why still bury the head in the sand? The cost of their ineffectiveness is far less than the cost of a white guy's effectiveness. It's exactly the same reason why many software teams in banks are led by women. They're incompetent, they're just not biologically fit to be great software designers or programmers, there are of course some exceptions, but anyway they cost less. It's all a matter of cost vs benefit.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    2 of the 70 finalists were American?

    That's truly abysmal.

    I wouldn't be surprised if those 2 were of Chinese descent.
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  18. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    So, whites took the land from ‘Indians’ and now lose it to Indians.

    LOL.

    Planet of the Apu.

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  19. bartok says:
    @Rational
    WHY DID MICROSOFT IMPORT INDIANS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

    This is an interesting article, and I agree immigration should be banned.

    But most companies I worked with me told me they CANNOT find enough white workers.

    This is because whites are too busy , smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating, fooling around, partying, and having "fun" and not marrying and not having children and dying off.

    If whites stopped smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating for years and instead married early and had many white children, these companies will not need to import aliens.

    We have met the enemy--and the enemy is us.

    But most companies I worked with me told me

    Let me be your Dear Abby – 20 lashes with a wet noodle.

    You dare to spout boilerplate neoliberal/libertarian cant here at Unz.com? Have you read any of the 2 million words at iSteve?

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  20. peterike says:
    @M. Thomas
    This essay is completely detached from reality. As someone who has actually worked at Microsoft as a software engineer, I can assure you that there was indeed a 'colonization' of Microsoft - by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian.

    Why are most of them Indian? Because India provides free higher education for students who qualify. This includes degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. This directly results in India creating many more qualified software engineers than the U.S. In fact, the U.S. is graduating fewer and fewer professionals in computer science, presumably because of the exorbitant cost and crushing debt.

    If the U.S. wants to 'colonize' Microsoft with white Americans, then I suggest America follow India's example and provide high quality, free education. It's really that simple.

    Oh, and yes these Indians are socialists because their high paying jobs at Microsoft (and Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) are the direct result of the quality education they received in a socialist system. Rather than criticizing in an obviously racist way, perhaps we should learn something.

    Best,
    M. Thomas

    As someone who has actually worked at Microsoft as a software engineer, I can assure you that there was indeed a ‘colonization’ of Microsoft – by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian.

    Complete nonsense. You do know, don’t you, that Microsoft was already wildly successful back when it had a handful of Indians working there? So what happened?

    Thanks to various factors, mostly a desire to save money plus a politically Progressive adherence to multi-culturalism, Microsoft (and a thousand other tech companies) started to hire Indians. Among the grunt workers, there are always a few very slick operators, what one might call Jive Talking Indians among them. These people rapidly climbed the greasy pole at Microsoft into management positions (slick talking jive artist + Progressive HR that loved, loved, loved promoting “people of color” = rapid rise up the ladder).

    Once in a position of management, the Indians would only hire other Indians. Often, this funnel went right back to their specific home town or university. When an engineering group reached a critical mass of Indians, it became uncomfortable for whites to work there. The whites were encouraged to quit, or simply dumped out of Microsoft which used a predatory stack ranking policy which could be easily gamed by Indians to ensure whites got the sack, making room for…. more Indians!

    If you think the rise of Indians in tech is entirely a result of “talent” you are delusional. It was ethnic nepotism and networking to the Nth degree. And this has been going on for decades now.

    At the same time that software was being Asian-ized inside America, American companies were moving hardware technology manufacturing and development overseas, dumping loads of American workers in the process, all in pursuit of greater enrichment for the execs (cheap labor + no environmental or regulatory costs was a huge win for the exec class).

    American workers got screwed across multiple dimensions. But hey, in a way I can’t blame the Indians and the Chinese. They were simply taking advantage of an opportunity that was created by white and (((white))) executive management, mostly a group of vile money-grubbers who sold out their nation without batting an eye. The Asians learned very quickly that you could roll American companies with a dual approach of “cheaper-plus-diverse!” This made the execs happy, as their wealth increased, and the Cat Ladies in HR happy because Diversity!!

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    "lemme tell you what is reality" says a loser who probably never worked a day in technology, to someone who actually worked inside of Microsoft...
    , @FLgeezer
    Great post peterike. I was victimized by what you have described when I worked at Motorola. And the irony is that most of the Indian programmers produced unmaintainable spaghetti code.
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  21. @Diversity Heretic
    Nikki Haley: Indian-American. Need one say more?

    Aka, Nimrata Randhawa. Is there anything worse than a low-IQed, ziocon stooge Indian who promotes WWIII? She’s orders of magnitude worse than anyone G.W. Bush had.

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  22. @Thomm

    Mossman doesn’t know what he’s writing about.
     
    Of course he does not.

    Remember there are two types of white people. The intelligent, successful type, and the bottom 20%. There is unusually high variance in white people, which is why the bottom quintile of whites is noteworthy to a greater extent than in other groups.

    The men of this bottom 20% become White Trashionalists. The women become the fat bluehaired feminists.

    The rest of us (the top 80%) hate this group, which is why White Nationalism really has no mainstream support in America.

    There are needs to restrict illegal immigration and legal unskilled immigration. Not every H1-B deserves to come here. But you will never get to a point were even 30% of white Americans opposed skilled immigration.

    Mossman is just an ignorant demagogue.

    You are extremely unpleasant. It would be nice if you disappeared.

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    I see that you are quite happy to enjoy the theme song that I wrote for WNs. Of course, you are happy to use what others produce (Ron Unz's website, my song) because you cannot produce anything of your own.

    Anyway, I am glad you are enjoying the song and making it your theme.

    Enjoy!

    http://www.unz.com/article/what-the-alt-right-and-regressive-left-have-in-common/#comment-2275482
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  23. Anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterike

    As someone who has actually worked at Microsoft as a software engineer, I can assure you that there was indeed a ‘colonization’ of Microsoft – by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian.

     

    Complete nonsense. You do know, don't you, that Microsoft was already wildly successful back when it had a handful of Indians working there? So what happened?

    Thanks to various factors, mostly a desire to save money plus a politically Progressive adherence to multi-culturalism, Microsoft (and a thousand other tech companies) started to hire Indians. Among the grunt workers, there are always a few very slick operators, what one might call Jive Talking Indians among them. These people rapidly climbed the greasy pole at Microsoft into management positions (slick talking jive artist + Progressive HR that loved, loved, loved promoting "people of color" = rapid rise up the ladder).

    Once in a position of management, the Indians would only hire other Indians. Often, this funnel went right back to their specific home town or university. When an engineering group reached a critical mass of Indians, it became uncomfortable for whites to work there. The whites were encouraged to quit, or simply dumped out of Microsoft which used a predatory stack ranking policy which could be easily gamed by Indians to ensure whites got the sack, making room for.... more Indians!

    If you think the rise of Indians in tech is entirely a result of "talent" you are delusional. It was ethnic nepotism and networking to the Nth degree. And this has been going on for decades now.

    At the same time that software was being Asian-ized inside America, American companies were moving hardware technology manufacturing and development overseas, dumping loads of American workers in the process, all in pursuit of greater enrichment for the execs (cheap labor + no environmental or regulatory costs was a huge win for the exec class).

    American workers got screwed across multiple dimensions. But hey, in a way I can't blame the Indians and the Chinese. They were simply taking advantage of an opportunity that was created by white and (((white))) executive management, mostly a group of vile money-grubbers who sold out their nation without batting an eye. The Asians learned very quickly that you could roll American companies with a dual approach of "cheaper-plus-diverse!" This made the execs happy, as their wealth increased, and the Cat Ladies in HR happy because Diversity!!

    “lemme tell you what is reality” says a loser who probably never worked a day in technology, to someone who actually worked inside of Microsoft…

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    A backgrounder :

    i) Peterike is known for being usually insulated from the outside world, forming all his opinions from what he memorizes from 'Muh tribe! Muh tribe!' blogs.
    ii) Peterike is an immigrant from Poland (which is not a first-world country).
    iii) Peterike is what the rest of us whites consider to be 'waste matter', and we never let him into polite society. No white woman even knows he exists, which is really what drives him into misplaced rage against people he has never even interacted with in meatspace.

    There is much less to WN than meets the eye.

    You could point out to Peterike that while Microsoft and Google both have Indian CEOs, the other 80% of each's employees are NOT Indian. But that is a level of discourse far higher than what should be wasted on the likes of Peterike.

    Yes, I have profited from hiring Indians (not H1-Bs, though). The business of America is business.

    , @peterike

    “lemme tell you what is reality” says a loser who probably never worked a day in technology, to someone who actually worked inside of Microsoft…

     

    Lol! I've worked in technology almost 25 years, two of those at Microsoft, which I got the hell out of when it became clear what a slave ship it was.

    I lived through the Great Technology Outsourcing and Insourcing of the 90s and 2000s. I know exactly what it was like BEFORE the immi-vasion, and what it's turned into since.
    , @Anon
    Someone who claimed he or she actually worked inside Microsoft.
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  24. Thomm says:
    @SunBakedSuburb
    You are extremely unpleasant. It would be nice if you disappeared.

    I see that you are quite happy to enjoy the theme song that I wrote for WNs. Of course, you are happy to use what others produce (Ron Unz’s website, my song) because you cannot produce anything of your own.

    Anyway, I am glad you are enjoying the song and making it your theme.

    Enjoy!

    http://www.unz.com/article/what-the-alt-right-and-regressive-left-have-in-common/#comment-2275482

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  25. Thomm says:
    @Anonymous
    "lemme tell you what is reality" says a loser who probably never worked a day in technology, to someone who actually worked inside of Microsoft...

    A backgrounder :

    i) Peterike is known for being usually insulated from the outside world, forming all his opinions from what he memorizes from ‘Muh tribe! Muh tribe!’ blogs.
    ii) Peterike is an immigrant from Poland (which is not a first-world country).
    iii) Peterike is what the rest of us whites consider to be ‘waste matter’, and we never let him into polite society. No white woman even knows he exists, which is really what drives him into misplaced rage against people he has never even interacted with in meatspace.

    There is much less to WN than meets the eye.

    You could point out to Peterike that while Microsoft and Google both have Indian CEOs, the other 80% of each’s employees are NOT Indian. But that is a level of discourse far higher than what should be wasted on the likes of Peterike.

    Yes, I have profited from hiring Indians (not H1-Bs, though). The business of America is business.

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    You could point out to Peterike that while Microsoft and Google both have Indian CEOs, the other 80% of each’s employees are NOT Indian. But that is a level of discourse far higher than what should be wasted on the likes of Peterike.

     

    Lol! Microsoft happens to provide that information. In fact, 31.3% of their employees are "Asian," and among tech employees 38.2%.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/diversity/inside-microsoft/default.aspx

    And they helpfully note, "The demographics of our workforce will continue to serve as one measure of our progress toward a more diverse and inclusive Microsoft." We've only just begun!

    Microsoft also has "Employee Resource Groups."

    Asians ERG
    Blacks ERG
    Cross disAbility ERG
    Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender ERG
    Latinx / Hispanic ERG
    Parents ERG
    Women ERG

    Hmmmm. What group seems to be missing there?

    , @DFH
    Maybe some day Indians will learn how to use toilets
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  26. anonymous[557] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ivan
    There is a much simpler explanation of why Indians vote for the Left in the US. They are world's ranking hypocrites along with Muslims and Jews.

    LOL! So says a presumably white degenerate from a kind whose perceived racial superiority was predicated on insatiable Greed, Psychopathy, Mendacity, and last but not least, Hypocrisy.

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  27. anonymous[557] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm
    Jesse Mossman is pretty ignorant. How did a WN wigger get to write an article here?

    From what I understand, Modi is right-wing, and restricts Muslims a lot. That is good.

    Furthermore, H1-Bs have an average salary only 15% lower than local Americans. Not two-thirds lower, as Jesse Mossman ignorantly claims without any source.

    H1-B should be abolished outright, but for other reasons.

    From what I understand, Modi is right-wing, and restricts Muslims a lot. That is good.

    Modi’s brand of right-wing degeneracy;

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/13/asia/india-child-rape-jammu-intl/index.html

    The salient points;
    1. 8yr old Muslim girl, raped, tortured, murdered.
    2. By hindu nationalist scum (6 of them, one of them over 60yrs old)
    3. All within their bloody temple, for 5 days.
    4. After the deed, the mofers from the rapist community in the area go on marches in support of the rapists, shouting praises of their flag, and of their “lord” ram.
    5. Two BJP Modi-asslicking leaders are among the marchers, inciting the mob.
    6. All hindu lawyers in the area move to quash the creation of the chargesheet against the rapists.
    7. Those same scum threaten a woman lawyer who has come forward to prosecute the rapists, with rape and death threats.

    So, does this get your, “that is good,” stamp of approval?

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    Does the killer in Las Vegas represent the Trump Administration or the gun owners the American values at large?
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  28. peterike says:
    @Anonymous
    "lemme tell you what is reality" says a loser who probably never worked a day in technology, to someone who actually worked inside of Microsoft...

    “lemme tell you what is reality” says a loser who probably never worked a day in technology, to someone who actually worked inside of Microsoft…

    Lol! I’ve worked in technology almost 25 years, two of those at Microsoft, which I got the hell out of when it became clear what a slave ship it was.

    I lived through the Great Technology Outsourcing and Insourcing of the 90s and 2000s. I know exactly what it was like BEFORE the immi-vasion, and what it’s turned into since.

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    Losers are always bitter. Thanks for proving yourself a loser.

    And an immigrant, too.

    Ah, won't the ironies ever end.
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  29. peterike says:
    @Thomm
    A backgrounder :

    i) Peterike is known for being usually insulated from the outside world, forming all his opinions from what he memorizes from 'Muh tribe! Muh tribe!' blogs.
    ii) Peterike is an immigrant from Poland (which is not a first-world country).
    iii) Peterike is what the rest of us whites consider to be 'waste matter', and we never let him into polite society. No white woman even knows he exists, which is really what drives him into misplaced rage against people he has never even interacted with in meatspace.

    There is much less to WN than meets the eye.

    You could point out to Peterike that while Microsoft and Google both have Indian CEOs, the other 80% of each's employees are NOT Indian. But that is a level of discourse far higher than what should be wasted on the likes of Peterike.

    Yes, I have profited from hiring Indians (not H1-Bs, though). The business of America is business.

    You could point out to Peterike that while Microsoft and Google both have Indian CEOs, the other 80% of each’s employees are NOT Indian. But that is a level of discourse far higher than what should be wasted on the likes of Peterike.

    Lol! Microsoft happens to provide that information. In fact, 31.3% of their employees are “Asian,” and among tech employees 38.2%.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/diversity/inside-microsoft/default.aspx

    And they helpfully note, “The demographics of our workforce will continue to serve as one measure of our progress toward a more diverse and inclusive Microsoft.” We’ve only just begun!

    Microsoft also has “Employee Resource Groups.”

    Asians ERG
    Blacks ERG
    Cross disAbility ERG
    Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender ERG
    Latinx / Hispanic ERG
    Parents ERG
    Women ERG

    Hmmmm. What group seems to be missing there?

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    In fact, 31.3% of their employees are “Asian,” and among tech employees 38.2%.
     
    Thanks for proving my point. 31.3% of the employees are Asian. Assume half are Indian and half are Chinese/Korean/Japanese/misc.

    So only 16% are Indian and 84% are not Indian, even after 4 years of Satya Nadella at the helm.

    Hence, your imaginary narrative that the Indian CEO has been 'pushing out non-Indians' and even prioritizing their own villages, etc. is false. Yeah, that is why 84% are still non-Indian.

    Thanks for providing us with the daily reminder that WNs have 70-IQs. You exhibited a display of innumeracy so stunning that you can scarcely be parodied. I almost felt bad about obliterating you in Comment #25, but thanks for putting that doubt to rest.

    I remind you of what Peterike's Law is : "We WN wiggers need intra-white socialism so that we can mooch off of successful whites."

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  30. It’s painful because it’s true. I’m going blue in the face trying to convince fellow Indians here in America that being raging Marxist leftists is not a good long term solution for being welcomed in America. Alas, they don’t listen to me.

    Hence, why I’ve created the Red Pill Indian blog, to at least try to get out alt-right ideas from an Indian perspective rather than allowing the Indian cuckservatives and SJWs monopolize the discussion.

    Hopefully I can create a safe space for Indians to be frank and politically incorrect without the fanatically white supremacist anti-Indian crowd here at Unz, Amren, and Vdare shouting about toilets and rape.

    I’ve written extensively here about why the alt-right hates Indians:

    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians.html

    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/are-indians-just-conforming-to-leftism.html

    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians-part-2.html

    On whether there can be some issues in common between the Indian right and the alt-right

    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/is-hindutva-red-pilled.html

    Whether new genetic knowledge about India can rekindle camaraderie between Brahmins and the German far right

    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/04/aryanism.html

    Anyway, I’m getting tired of the alt-right’s whining about Indians. You guys have natural allies in Brahmins in India but because you are so insistent that white people invented everything and anything of value that Asians are beneath you. America and Europe are doomed by demographic replacement and India and China will emerge as new powers…

    Anyway, Hinduism is far more compatible with evolution and the idea of not all humans being equal than Christianity is, so Western religions are going to have a harder and harder time as science discovers more and more about human origins and the degree to which genetics influences us.

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    Hinduism is far more...
     
    More than anything, Hinduism is batshit craziness.

    1. Worshipping devils.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTDJ-gkD2HC/?hl=en

    2. Rapist deities (Vishnu's rape of Tulsi). Mind you, I am simply stating the nonsense in your scripture.
    3. Can't explain anything cogently, no problem... metaphorical spin to the rescue... "you see, it is not meant to be taken literally, but..." Everyone is then expected to marvel at the profundity of all that.
    4. Worship of Shiva's Phallus (lingum) and his whoever's Vagina (yoni).
    5. Claiming everything under the sun, more or less, was discovered\invented by the hindoo. Latest... Internet existed during the mythical Mahabharata war, where apparently, nuclear weapons rained down.

    Seriously, you beeping idiots.

    It is hilarious as you degenerates try and find common cause with white supremacist degenerates. You will always remain n*s to them.

    , @Anonymous
    Actually, because Brahmins and Indians as a whole come from a caste system, and they want to replicate it here, Indians are the worst group to bring in. Even worse than Blacks or Jews.

    And no, Indians are not a natural ally lol. Indians are the most likely to backstab whites and native peoples. That's why they are so hated everywhere they go. The tribal in you is strong.

    Also, Indians are notorious for saying they invented everything:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-india-43806078
    , @Druid
    Brahmin scum!
    , @utu

    Anyway, I’m getting tired of the alt-right’s whining about Indians. You guys have natural allies in Brahmins in India
     
    Thank you but no thank you. Stay in your country and make alliances with whoever you want. In the West you are not needed and not wanted. We can help you training some sanitary engineers to help you with defecation in India. You should concentrate on this problem. Try to make an alliance with running water and toilet paper. They are actually your friends.
    , @Thorfinnsson
    I am alt-right and do not hate Indians. I will visit your blog.

    I am opposed to Indians moving to our countries. Unlike many in the thread, I don't think we should expel the ones already here (maybe in Europe--there's something particularly offensive about non-whites in Europe).

    This is not based on the characteristics of Indians themselves, but simply that you are not us. Even if we are very, very distant cousins.

    Whites and Indians have a lot of shared challenges and problems. Whites and Indians tend to get along better than either group does with East Asians (let alone Mohammedans).

    We can work together, but we shouldn't live together.

    Incidentally I have a joint venture in Gujarat and as such have a lot of experience with Indians. I have an Indian intern (whom I am forcing to go home in the future), and I consider the top executives at the joint venture to be personal friends.

    Christianity is not incompatible with the alt right despite what some think. Christians are commanded to make disciples of all nations, not to abolish all nations.

    The words of Kaiser Wilhelm II when he entered Jerusalem come to mind:


    What the German people became, we became under Christ.
     
    We cannot and should not abandon Christ.

    Likewise you Indians should cherish and nurture Hinduism.
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  31. Thomm says:
    @peterike

    You could point out to Peterike that while Microsoft and Google both have Indian CEOs, the other 80% of each’s employees are NOT Indian. But that is a level of discourse far higher than what should be wasted on the likes of Peterike.

     

    Lol! Microsoft happens to provide that information. In fact, 31.3% of their employees are "Asian," and among tech employees 38.2%.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/diversity/inside-microsoft/default.aspx

    And they helpfully note, "The demographics of our workforce will continue to serve as one measure of our progress toward a more diverse and inclusive Microsoft." We've only just begun!

    Microsoft also has "Employee Resource Groups."

    Asians ERG
    Blacks ERG
    Cross disAbility ERG
    Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender ERG
    Latinx / Hispanic ERG
    Parents ERG
    Women ERG

    Hmmmm. What group seems to be missing there?

    In fact, 31.3% of their employees are “Asian,” and among tech employees 38.2%.

    Thanks for proving my point. 31.3% of the employees are Asian. Assume half are Indian and half are Chinese/Korean/Japanese/misc.

    So only 16% are Indian and 84% are not Indian, even after 4 years of Satya Nadella at the helm.

    Hence, your imaginary narrative that the Indian CEO has been ‘pushing out non-Indians’ and even prioritizing their own villages, etc. is false. Yeah, that is why 84% are still non-Indian.

    Thanks for providing us with the daily reminder that WNs have 70-IQs. You exhibited a display of innumeracy so stunning that you can scarcely be parodied. I almost felt bad about obliterating you in Comment #25, but thanks for putting that doubt to rest.

    I remind you of what Peterike’s Law is : “We WN wiggers need intra-white socialism so that we can mooch off of successful whites.”

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  32. @Ivan
    There is a much simpler explanation of why Indians vote for the Left in the US. They are world's ranking hypocrites along with Muslims and Jews.

    Basically, you are saying that anyone not like you is a hypocrite. Your assertion has conflated one and a half billion Muslims, twelve million Jews and one billion non-Muslim Indians. I counted them up on my fingers and you have indicted over two and a half billion people as being hypocrites simply because of their religious or national origin. You have indicted one third of the world based on what? Personal prejudice?

    Such reckless counting, such reckless categorizing is an abomination. Rather than aggregating a two and a half billion cohort that you do n0t like, why not turn an eye to the government that allows these or any other people to come to the United States. There are actually some processes available for changing how that government conducts its business. But to ineffectually scorn two and a half billion people seems a futile gesture, one designed to exalt smugness rather than improvement.

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    Dude, you realize you're talking to an Indian, right?
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  33. DFH says:
    @Thomm
    A backgrounder :

    i) Peterike is known for being usually insulated from the outside world, forming all his opinions from what he memorizes from 'Muh tribe! Muh tribe!' blogs.
    ii) Peterike is an immigrant from Poland (which is not a first-world country).
    iii) Peterike is what the rest of us whites consider to be 'waste matter', and we never let him into polite society. No white woman even knows he exists, which is really what drives him into misplaced rage against people he has never even interacted with in meatspace.

    There is much less to WN than meets the eye.

    You could point out to Peterike that while Microsoft and Google both have Indian CEOs, the other 80% of each's employees are NOT Indian. But that is a level of discourse far higher than what should be wasted on the likes of Peterike.

    Yes, I have profited from hiring Indians (not H1-Bs, though). The business of America is business.

    Maybe some day Indians will learn how to use toilets

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    They will probably learn that before you learn that homosexuality causes AIDS, so you should cease your current activities.
    , @TT
    Indians has the oldest & highest ancient civilization if you read up their entire history.

    Sure they know how to use toilets better than all of us if you ever visit India, esp the $3~5k/ nite hotel. Its like Taj Maha style, so extravagant even their hotel public toilet.

    In Northern India, its very clean & beautiful, unlike Southern & cities are completely filthy & crimes ridden.

    Walk to any decent place, they have customized toilet bowl with dual usage, sitting or squatting design, great idea for public usage. Hygiene & clean.

    Further down the public toilet, that's still ok, like any normal toilet in developing country, squatting & urinal wall only. Hygiene & clean.

    Then the challenge come when its fithy free public toilets. There are also semi outdoor toilets right in city next to main road, simply a semi covered wall. The urine flows along the foot path and road.The stench is noticed faraway. You step on urines while walk pass.

    Without amenities, outdoor toilets become natural, everywhere you can stand or squat down to ease, and get a little water to wash the ass. That's the best toilet, so refreshing without stench. And some dogs & pigs will find delight with their delicacies, nothing go to waste in India.

    So Indians know how to use toilet as much as us. But poverty is the mother of problem. Its their corrupted ruling class conspired with British colonial master & now Anglos-capitalist continue to ruin a great civilization.

    Given a choice, they will live like us, no reason to discriminate Indian for toilet. Although i like to highlight their bad ruling class shameless liars & general stupidity, their fake resumes & crimes, tribalism & poor performance to their irritation, but never their toilet since its not a choice for them.

    China with improved economy, is now revolutionizing their toilet culture, to my dismay, they have gone into all kinds funny extravagant ideas, well surpassing my gov wasteful splashing of subsidizing each public toilet $200K to renovate - some got safari open concepts.

    Chaotic is India oriental beauty, anyone, any culture, any religions, any animals can survive anywhere.

    Incredible India - their slogan for tourism.
    , @Dagon Shield
    And maybe, someday, Americans will learn that assholes are not for fornication!
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  34. @Thomm

    Mossman doesn’t know what he’s writing about.
     
    Of course he does not.

    Remember there are two types of white people. The intelligent, successful type, and the bottom 20%. There is unusually high variance in white people, which is why the bottom quintile of whites is noteworthy to a greater extent than in other groups.

    The men of this bottom 20% become White Trashionalists. The women become the fat bluehaired feminists.

    The rest of us (the top 80%) hate this group, which is why White Nationalism really has no mainstream support in America.

    There are needs to restrict illegal immigration and legal unskilled immigration. Not every H1-B deserves to come here. But you will never get to a point were even 30% of white Americans opposed skilled immigration.

    Mossman is just an ignorant demagogue.

    The bottom quintile of whites is largely not political at all, though some fraction consists of white trashionalists, especially men who have been to prison.

    Bluehaired feminists do not come from the bottom quintile of white society at all. They have no exposure to university-bred SJWism. They do become obese unless they develop a meth habit however.

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    Bluehaired feminists do not come from the bottom quintile of white society at all. They have no exposure to university-bred SJWism.
     
    The income quintile of the parents does not matter as much. Bluehaired feminists often become such in the university SJW indoctrination environment. The point is, they are the female counterparts to the WN wiggers. Both represent genetic waste matter that the white race generates in the process of producing the best people, and nature wants us to expunge this waste matter.
    , @Anon
    What’s with all these references to blue haired feminists????

    If Thomm and the rest are referring to the style of white haired women using a blue rinse to get rid of the yellow streaks;

    That blue rinse style went out of fashion about 1950. It has not been in style for the last 70 years.

    I’ve noted that many of the commenters tend to be old codgers. But to remember the 1930s and 40s when old ladies blue rinsed their hair commenters would have to be about 120 years old.

    Or are you all referring to the style of younger women dying their hair pink green blue purple lavender???

    So only the young women who dye their hair blue are feminists and the ones who dye their hair pink green and purple are not feminists??????

    It would be nice to know what you all are talking about. This is the only place I’ve ever heard the term blue haired feminists.
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  35. WRT Mossman’s article Indians and whites have a lot of shared political problems.

    Indians suffer from their own version of “diversity” in the form of Mohammedans (whom are permitted polygamy under Indian law) and privileges for the scheduled castes. Hindu education is explicitly discriminated against in Indian law. Western-funded NGOs daily pour poison into the veins of India. A major fraction of the Indian elite has bought into Western liberalism as well.

    While I agree with Mossman’s point that high-IQ immigrants are not an unalloyed good and can even be dangerous (see: the Jews), I think he is overplaying his hand with respect to Indians.

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man–by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.

    It’s worth remembering when assessing Indians that they are our very, very distant cousins–especially the higher castes and fairer ones. They are quite similar to us in many ways despite a very different culture, religion, and society.

    I’m not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.

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    https://pix.sfly.com/ZCipwX

    my Tamil Brahmin son, with white child in Silicon valley

    https://pix.sfly.com/UY1MKQ

    My Tamil Brahmin son,

    http://www.santabanta.com/images/sandeepa-dhar/50848/

    Brahmin bollywood actress
    , @Thomm

    I’m not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.
     
    My view is similar, in that I think there should only be highly-skilled immigration. No unskilled, and no illegal.

    The cutoff for skill should be Top-15% of the income scale (say, $120,000 income potential).

    This will automatically remove all black, browner Hispanic, and Arab immigration.

    Of the skilled that are let in, about 40% will be white (mostly Russians) and 60% will be Asian (almost all Chinese and Indian).

    The number of immigrants will still be under 1M a year (i.e. less than now).

    Effectively, I want the same policy as Canada has (even though the numbers we get will proportionally be a lot less than Canada, since there just aren't that many skilled immigrants the RoW can send).
    , @Thomm

    –especially the higher castes and fairer ones.
     
    One correction. I have learned that 'caste', skin color, and IQ have no correlation among Indians. The high-IQ Indians that come here are not always higher caste, and certainly not more 'Aryan'. Otherwise there would be no short, dark-skinned, tubby Indians in tech companies here. Rather, all the ones here would be Greco-Persian in appearance, and the women would look a lot more like their movie stars.

    Plus, if skin color and IQ were correlated in South Asia, Pakistan and Afghanistan would be a lot more prosperous than India and certainly Sri Lanka. Instead, the opposite is true.

    , @KenH

    I’m not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.
     
    Even though Indians might be preferable to some third world groups (diaspora Indians don't seem to do violent crime or form rape gangs) they should be high on your radar since they tend to flip congressional districts and mayoral races to the left wing Democrat wherever they concentrate in large numbers as noted in this article. When they arrive in large numbers they just re-create India.
    , @anon

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man–by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.
     
    You are hallucinating. Indian men are just as liberal as Indian women. Just look at Sundra Pichai of Google, the Indian comedians Aziz Ansari, Hasan Minhaj, Kumail Nanjani, Calexit leaders Shankar Singam, US attorney Preet Bharara under Obama, the list goes on, all are big time leftists. Indians are loquacious and arrogant, very much like the Jews with their chutzpah. Tech and the H1b visa offer them a way in. Once they get in the next generation tend to go into banking, law, medicine or civil service, just like the Jews. In medicine many are caught up in medicare fraud. Indians are entering civil service in drove.

    You need to wake up in a hurry. Indians are the new Jews.

    , @Escher
    Why do I get the feeling that “Thorfinnsson” is most likely an Indian, just like “Thomm”, and possibly the same person.
    , @Anon
    Indians are a threat to anyone who works in tech or medicine.
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  36. This was a edited out of Mossman’s original draft. (I am NOT Mossman)

    “But educated immigrants also discriminate. A Chinese employee at Microsoft told me about being passed over for a promotion by an Indian boss in favor of an unqualified person—because that person was an Indian. It is easy to find many testimonies telling how Indian managers not only discriminate against other races, but also against Indians who don’t match their own religion, region of origin, caste, and language.”

    The practice of hiring from one’s own demographic is a basic human characteristic. Please don’t pretend this will change.

    I’ve worked where Mormons were bound by their brethren to hire Mormons. I’ve worked where Hispanics openly admitted their attempt to ‘pack the house’ with Hispanics but since I was ‘simpatico’ to their culture I was OK (for now).

    My son worked as computer engineer for 20 years at a IBM in Austin, Texas until an Indian manager arrived. Originally my son was asked by the company to apply for his position because of his established reputation, education and in house references. Soon the new Indian manager shifted my son’s department’s tasks to a group in India that floundered despite over a million dollars being paid them. The Indian group wasn’t up to speed yet my son and his long term associates were laid off.

    Don’t forget that Indians, Mormons and Hispanics among many other groups more closely associate on a daily level with their own kind and furthermore people native to their home territories. It’s to their and their relatives’ –some of them still in their native country– advantage that a nepotism be practiced.

    Traditionally Americans have attempted to apply the founding concept of equal protection beyond the courtroom into the levels of daily and professional life. Let’s not destroy this with unrestrained immigration practices based on short term economic gains, political advantage taking or the hatred of traditional, non-SJW (socialist) Americans.

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  37. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterike

    “lemme tell you what is reality” says a loser who probably never worked a day in technology, to someone who actually worked inside of Microsoft…

     

    Lol! I've worked in technology almost 25 years, two of those at Microsoft, which I got the hell out of when it became clear what a slave ship it was.

    I lived through the Great Technology Outsourcing and Insourcing of the 90s and 2000s. I know exactly what it was like BEFORE the immi-vasion, and what it's turned into since.

    Losers are always bitter. Thanks for proving yourself a loser.

    And an immigrant, too.

    Ah, won’t the ironies ever end.

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    Alright Anonymous 164, or should I call you Anonymous 204, or M. Thomas, or Thomm?

    We all know that you are an Indian weirdo who street-shits all over any Unz.com post that threatens to expose the abuses your countrymen have perpetrated upon our people. Your shtick isn't convincing anyone, and you are only making more "White Trashionalists" with every word you type.

    Your sick psychology is happily not my concern and you are clearly beyond the reach of any argument, but just know this and meditate upon it in your pathetic intellectual hovel. You are going to lose. Nothing you write can change the reality of Indian backwardness, decrepitude, and moral culpability. These are the facts M. Thommas Anonymous, and it is these facts that will determine outcomes, while you will leave, as the sole monument to your existence, naught but a collection of snarky posts.
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  38. rec1man says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    WRT Mossman's article Indians and whites have a lot of shared political problems.

    Indians suffer from their own version of "diversity" in the form of Mohammedans (whom are permitted polygamy under Indian law) and privileges for the scheduled castes. Hindu education is explicitly discriminated against in Indian law. Western-funded NGOs daily pour poison into the veins of India. A major fraction of the Indian elite has bought into Western liberalism as well.

    While I agree with Mossman's point that high-IQ immigrants are not an unalloyed good and can even be dangerous (see: the Jews), I think he is overplaying his hand with respect to Indians.

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man--by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.

    It's worth remembering when assessing Indians that they are our very, very distant cousins--especially the higher castes and fairer ones. They are quite similar to us in many ways despite a very different culture, religion, and society.

    I'm not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.

    https://pix.sfly.com/ZCipwX

    my Tamil Brahmin son, with white child in Silicon valley

    https://pix.sfly.com/UY1MKQ

    My Tamil Brahmin son,

    http://www.santabanta.com/images/sandeepa-dhar/50848/

    Brahmin bollywood actress

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    my Tamil Brahmin son
     
    LOL! Are you for real?

    The pictures are meant to prove what the degenerate you are replying to, is saying? Poor Tamil Brahmin with deep seated complexes wants to be accepted as a white guy.

    You may wish to control the exultation until the young one grows up. Of course, by all means let the little guy grow up to be God's gift to white women, but it always better to wait. Remember the Harry Potter guy, or DeCaprio, or...

    Perhaps you should have posted a picture of your "handsome" aryan-like Tamil Brahmin mug.


    http://www.santabanta.com/images/sandeepa-dhar/50848/

    Brahmin bollywood actress
     

    Seriously, it is so twisted to link some bollywood whore to prove a point on how "beautiful" brahmins are. Whoredom is not real "beauty," you Tamil Brahmin degenerate.

    Actually, you know, you have just proven how pathetic you are.

    , @Thorfinnsson
    Hi, I did not respond immediately as I didn't see it as germane to this thread.

    But then I saw people said hateful things to you.

    I just want to say you have a beautiful, handsome young son who I hope grows up to become to be a great man.

    God bless.
    , @Dagon Shield
    The first image shows a child of African and European ancestry, the second child looks like North Indian and the babe looks Persian... none of them look pure, unadulterated whites.
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  39. Thomm says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    The bottom quintile of whites is largely not political at all, though some fraction consists of white trashionalists, especially men who have been to prison.

    Bluehaired feminists do not come from the bottom quintile of white society at all. They have no exposure to university-bred SJWism. They do become obese unless they develop a meth habit however.

    Bluehaired feminists do not come from the bottom quintile of white society at all. They have no exposure to university-bred SJWism.

    The income quintile of the parents does not matter as much. Bluehaired feminists often become such in the university SJW indoctrination environment. The point is, they are the female counterparts to the WN wiggers. Both represent genetic waste matter that the white race generates in the process of producing the best people, and nature wants us to expunge this waste matter.

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  40. Thomm says:
    @DFH
    Maybe some day Indians will learn how to use toilets

    They will probably learn that before you learn that homosexuality causes AIDS, so you should cease your current activities.

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  41. Thomm says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    WRT Mossman's article Indians and whites have a lot of shared political problems.

    Indians suffer from their own version of "diversity" in the form of Mohammedans (whom are permitted polygamy under Indian law) and privileges for the scheduled castes. Hindu education is explicitly discriminated against in Indian law. Western-funded NGOs daily pour poison into the veins of India. A major fraction of the Indian elite has bought into Western liberalism as well.

    While I agree with Mossman's point that high-IQ immigrants are not an unalloyed good and can even be dangerous (see: the Jews), I think he is overplaying his hand with respect to Indians.

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man--by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.

    It's worth remembering when assessing Indians that they are our very, very distant cousins--especially the higher castes and fairer ones. They are quite similar to us in many ways despite a very different culture, religion, and society.

    I'm not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.

    I’m not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.

    My view is similar, in that I think there should only be highly-skilled immigration. No unskilled, and no illegal.

    The cutoff for skill should be Top-15% of the income scale (say, $120,000 income potential).

    This will automatically remove all black, browner Hispanic, and Arab immigration.

    Of the skilled that are let in, about 40% will be white (mostly Russians) and 60% will be Asian (almost all Chinese and Indian).

    The number of immigrants will still be under 1M a year (i.e. less than now).

    Effectively, I want the same policy as Canada has (even though the numbers we get will proportionally be a lot less than Canada, since there just aren’t that many skilled immigrants the RoW can send).

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    Just got off the phone with a "Canadian" engineer (Chinese).

    Spoke broken English.

    Highly irritating.

    I'll pass on the economic benefits of skilled immigration. I have an Indian engineering intern (nice fellow), but he's returning to India to our subsidiary there once his training is complete.

    Preservation of a white demographic majority is an important policy goal, though efforts should be made to make inroads with Asians and Indians to get them to vote correctly.

    Don't have a problem with WNs as you do, simply consider their proposals (to the extent they exist) unworkable and unsaleable. They're definitely not "waste material" as a group either--take a look at Dick Spencer or Jared Taylor for instance. Of course you can counter with Heimbach and Parrott...yeesh.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Haha. So basically you want to ship as many Indians (and especially Punjabi) over as possible. Always trust the tribe to put itself first.

    And by the way, Canada is not so merit based under Justin Trudeau, he has really degraded the system to a free for all. Many Arabs and blacks coming in, with 75,000 Nigerians illegally crossing the border this year.

    Maybe on paper this country's immigration looks good but in practice it's turned into a total joke when it's not managed properly.
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  42. Thomm says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    WRT Mossman's article Indians and whites have a lot of shared political problems.

    Indians suffer from their own version of "diversity" in the form of Mohammedans (whom are permitted polygamy under Indian law) and privileges for the scheduled castes. Hindu education is explicitly discriminated against in Indian law. Western-funded NGOs daily pour poison into the veins of India. A major fraction of the Indian elite has bought into Western liberalism as well.

    While I agree with Mossman's point that high-IQ immigrants are not an unalloyed good and can even be dangerous (see: the Jews), I think he is overplaying his hand with respect to Indians.

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man--by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.

    It's worth remembering when assessing Indians that they are our very, very distant cousins--especially the higher castes and fairer ones. They are quite similar to us in many ways despite a very different culture, religion, and society.

    I'm not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.

    –especially the higher castes and fairer ones.

    One correction. I have learned that ‘caste’, skin color, and IQ have no correlation among Indians. The high-IQ Indians that come here are not always higher caste, and certainly not more ‘Aryan’. Otherwise there would be no short, dark-skinned, tubby Indians in tech companies here. Rather, all the ones here would be Greco-Persian in appearance, and the women would look a lot more like their movie stars.

    Plus, if skin color and IQ were correlated in South Asia, Pakistan and Afghanistan would be a lot more prosperous than India and certainly Sri Lanka. Instead, the opposite is true.

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    I'm not associating color with IQ in the case of India.

    It's simply a fact that the fairer Indians are more closely related to us, as they are descended from the Aryan conquerors.

    There is an earlier dark-skinned caucasoid population in India, largely concentrated in the south (though they once farmed the Indus River Valley) which indeed produces many talented people.
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  43. Anon[355] • Disclaimer says:

    Peterike is correct that there is nepotism involved in Indians hiring other Indians. Of course, a similar argument could be made about whites hiring other whites but I suspect it’s stronger with Indians (that is to say, whites will also look objectively at the strength of a candidate).

    Also, on average, Indian coders are much lower in quality than their white US counterparts. This is not to say there aren’t strong Indian coders but we’re talking about *averages.* And top brass in US companies is either blissfully unaware of this quality difference or is indifferent to it because its blinkered vision only takes into account short-run cost savings (and doesn’t see that a seriously compromised code base will eventually sink the whole ship).

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  44. Raj Gupta says:

    You conveniently left out how Indians helped Trump win. Remember Hindus for Trump?

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    Thanks for the help but Indian-"Americans" voted, what, 32% for Trump?
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  45. anonymous[557] • Disclaimer says:
    @Red Pill Indian
    It's painful because it's true. I'm going blue in the face trying to convince fellow Indians here in America that being raging Marxist leftists is not a good long term solution for being welcomed in America. Alas, they don't listen to me.

    Hence, why I've created the Red Pill Indian blog, to at least try to get out alt-right ideas from an Indian perspective rather than allowing the Indian cuckservatives and SJWs monopolize the discussion.

    Hopefully I can create a safe space for Indians to be frank and politically incorrect without the fanatically white supremacist anti-Indian crowd here at Unz, Amren, and Vdare shouting about toilets and rape.

    I've written extensively here about why the alt-right hates Indians:
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians.html
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/are-indians-just-conforming-to-leftism.html
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians-part-2.html

    On whether there can be some issues in common between the Indian right and the alt-right
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/is-hindutva-red-pilled.html

    Whether new genetic knowledge about India can rekindle camaraderie between Brahmins and the German far right
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/04/aryanism.html

    Anyway, I'm getting tired of the alt-right's whining about Indians. You guys have natural allies in Brahmins in India but because you are so insistent that white people invented everything and anything of value that Asians are beneath you. America and Europe are doomed by demographic replacement and India and China will emerge as new powers...

    Anyway, Hinduism is far more compatible with evolution and the idea of not all humans being equal than Christianity is, so Western religions are going to have a harder and harder time as science discovers more and more about human origins and the degree to which genetics influences us.

    Hinduism is far more…

    More than anything, Hinduism is batshit craziness.

    1. Worshipping devils.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTDJ-gkD2HC/?hl=en

    2. Rapist deities (Vishnu’s rape of Tulsi). Mind you, I am simply stating the nonsense in your scripture.
    3. Can’t explain anything cogently, no problem… metaphorical spin to the rescue… “you see, it is not meant to be taken literally, but…” Everyone is then expected to marvel at the profundity of all that.
    4. Worship of Shiva’s Phallus (lingum) and his whoever’s Vagina (yoni).
    5. Claiming everything under the sun, more or less, was discovered\invented by the hindoo. Latest… Internet existed during the mythical Mahabharata war, where apparently, nuclear weapons rained down.

    Seriously, you beeping idiots.

    It is hilarious as you degenerates try and find common cause with white supremacist degenerates. You will always remain n*s to them.

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    The Jewish fantasy is the basis for both the Holy Bible and the Koran... before that the gods of the European mythologies were no different from Hindu mythological beings. Before casting stones, ask if a man can part the sea, walk on water or fly on a donkey?
    , @Dagon Shield
    I didn't realize that you were a Paki (even an Arab, a Turk or a Persian would not stoop that low) until the last para:

    "It is hilarious as you degenerates try and find common cause with white supremacist degenerates. You will always remain n*s to them."

    They may be niggers to the whites but one thing is certain that you will always be the Samd Nigger's nigger!
    , @anon

    More than anything, Hinduism is batshit craziness.
     
    Batshit crazy is pretty much the only word to describe a religion that worships over 33 million gods. Stupid libtards in America are the only ones putting these people on a pedastal and can't import enough of them. All over Asia, Indians are seen as criminals and chest thumping bullshit artists of the east. Never trust an Indian like you should never trust a Jew.
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  46. @Thomm

    I’m not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.
     
    My view is similar, in that I think there should only be highly-skilled immigration. No unskilled, and no illegal.

    The cutoff for skill should be Top-15% of the income scale (say, $120,000 income potential).

    This will automatically remove all black, browner Hispanic, and Arab immigration.

    Of the skilled that are let in, about 40% will be white (mostly Russians) and 60% will be Asian (almost all Chinese and Indian).

    The number of immigrants will still be under 1M a year (i.e. less than now).

    Effectively, I want the same policy as Canada has (even though the numbers we get will proportionally be a lot less than Canada, since there just aren't that many skilled immigrants the RoW can send).

    Just got off the phone with a “Canadian” engineer (Chinese).

    Spoke broken English.

    Highly irritating.

    I’ll pass on the economic benefits of skilled immigration. I have an Indian engineering intern (nice fellow), but he’s returning to India to our subsidiary there once his training is complete.

    Preservation of a white demographic majority is an important policy goal, though efforts should be made to make inroads with Asians and Indians to get them to vote correctly.

    Don’t have a problem with WNs as you do, simply consider their proposals (to the extent they exist) unworkable and unsaleable. They’re definitely not “waste material” as a group either–take a look at Dick Spencer or Jared Taylor for instance. Of course you can counter with Heimbach and Parrott…yeesh.

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    Preservation of a white demographic majority is an important policy goal, though efforts should be made to make inroads with Asians and Indians to get them to vote correctly.
     
    It is even worse. Asians used to vote MORE Republican than whites as recently as 1996 :

    http://themonkeycage.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/asian-demvote1.png

    They are the only group of the four that switched dramatically.

    Why did they switch? A combinations of the following reasons :

    i) The realized that the GOPe are phonies and it is really a uniparty (there are a few reasons Asians were able to notice this by 2000, long before whites did in 2016).
    ii) They observed how Jews make a lot of money by entrenching themselves into the system. Seeing as how it is a uniparty anyway as per i), quit the idealism and just work the system.
    iii) The appeal that Reagan had among Asians was too far in the past by 2000.

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  47. @Thomm

    –especially the higher castes and fairer ones.
     
    One correction. I have learned that 'caste', skin color, and IQ have no correlation among Indians. The high-IQ Indians that come here are not always higher caste, and certainly not more 'Aryan'. Otherwise there would be no short, dark-skinned, tubby Indians in tech companies here. Rather, all the ones here would be Greco-Persian in appearance, and the women would look a lot more like their movie stars.

    Plus, if skin color and IQ were correlated in South Asia, Pakistan and Afghanistan would be a lot more prosperous than India and certainly Sri Lanka. Instead, the opposite is true.

    I’m not associating color with IQ in the case of India.

    It’s simply a fact that the fairer Indians are more closely related to us, as they are descended from the Aryan conquerors.

    There is an earlier dark-skinned caucasoid population in India, largely concentrated in the south (though they once farmed the Indus River Valley) which indeed produces many talented people.

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    It’s simply a fact that the fairer Indians are more closely related to us, as they are descended from the Aryan conquerors.
     
    Related, yes. That also means are Pakistanis are even more related, and Afghans even more so, except for that pesky Islam thing.

    But around this board, I see too much conflation of IQ with Caucasianness with 'high caste' (I am not saying you are the one doing it). These correlations are virtually non-existent as I have learned. If they were, the high-income Indians in the US would look more like their movie stars, and would not be the short, dark, tubby ones we see here.
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  48. @Raj Gupta
    You conveniently left out how Indians helped Trump win. Remember Hindus for Trump?

    Thanks for the help but Indian-”Americans” voted, what, 32% for Trump?

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  49. anonymous[557] • Disclaimer says:
    @rec1man
    https://pix.sfly.com/ZCipwX

    my Tamil Brahmin son, with white child in Silicon valley

    https://pix.sfly.com/UY1MKQ

    My Tamil Brahmin son,

    http://www.santabanta.com/images/sandeepa-dhar/50848/

    Brahmin bollywood actress

    my Tamil Brahmin son

    LOL! Are you for real?

    The pictures are meant to prove what the degenerate you are replying to, is saying? Poor Tamil Brahmin with deep seated complexes wants to be accepted as a white guy.

    You may wish to control the exultation until the young one grows up. Of course, by all means let the little guy grow up to be God’s gift to white women, but it always better to wait. Remember the Harry Potter guy, or DeCaprio, or…

    Perhaps you should have posted a picture of your “handsome” aryan-like Tamil Brahmin mug.

    http://www.santabanta.com/images/sandeepa-dhar/50848/

    Brahmin bollywood actress

    Seriously, it is so twisted to link some bollywood whore to prove a point on how “beautiful” brahmins are. Whoredom is not real “beauty,” you Tamil Brahmin degenerate.

    Actually, you know, you have just proven how pathetic you are.

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    Don’t all the Indian actors actresses and models bleach their skin and wear greenish hazel contacts lenses?
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  50. anon[321] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rational
    WHY DID MICROSOFT IMPORT INDIANS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

    This is an interesting article, and I agree immigration should be banned.

    But most companies I worked with me told me they CANNOT find enough white workers.

    This is because whites are too busy , smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating, fooling around, partying, and having "fun" and not marrying and not having children and dying off.

    If whites stopped smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating for years and instead married early and had many white children, these companies will not need to import aliens.

    We have met the enemy--and the enemy is us.

    This is because whites are too busy , smoking, drinking, doing drugs, dating, fooling around, partying, and having “fun” and not marrying and not having children and dying off.

    No, it’s because companies refuse to hire anyone over 45. They have no incentive to since they pretty much have the world’s labor supply at their finger tips. India has an unlimited supply of young males who will happily lie through their teeth on their resumes to get here, and they are willing to work for dirt wages.

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  51. @rec1man
    https://pix.sfly.com/ZCipwX

    my Tamil Brahmin son, with white child in Silicon valley

    https://pix.sfly.com/UY1MKQ

    My Tamil Brahmin son,

    http://www.santabanta.com/images/sandeepa-dhar/50848/

    Brahmin bollywood actress

    Hi, I did not respond immediately as I didn’t see it as germane to this thread.

    But then I saw people said hateful things to you.

    I just want to say you have a beautiful, handsome young son who I hope grows up to become to be a great man.

    God bless.

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    But then I saw people said hateful things to you.
     
    This from a racist hateful Islamophobe like you? LOL!

    I just want to say you have a beautiful, handsome young son who I hope grows up to become to be a great man.
     
    In the Red Pill Scum's blog, this degenerate talks about how Blacks are not welcome in the family, but Whites, totally ok. Apparently many in his extended family have been "blessed" with white spouses. He seems quite pleased with the idea, and perhaps his boy will be groomed in that manner too... who knows maybe you could be a future in-law.

    And, this from a person whose country of origin is filled with "black" people, especially his Tamil area. Can you imagine the contempt he must have for his "brethren" when he is walking around his hometown? Racist scum like you may understand and find it acceptable, but others with a functioning moral compass will simply find it repulsive.

    Btw, he also mentions Muslims as persona non grata, but no True Monotheist would marry into a pagan polytheist shithole (see my post above) anyway, so we will let that pass. :)

    With a racist degenerate for a father, that beautiful little innocent better be blessed to find another path, soon after he reaches the age of self reason... God willing. Following in his father's footsteps will not make him a "great" man, unless you are one of those who think mass murderers like Modi and his ilk, and those supporters of child rape, torture and murder, are "great" men.


    God bless.
     
    The Almighty One's ways are truly mysterious. Those He as truly condemned appear to be blessed with much glory and wealth, and those He has truly blessed appear to be condemned with ignominy and poverty.

    The only true blessing is Paradise. No pagan polytheist human/animal worshipper and/or the godless, will ever enter that blessed place.

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  52. KenH says:

    So only 16% are Indian and 84% are not Indian, even after 4 years of Satya Nadella at the helm.

    You’re brilliant (sarc). But as Indians only represent .9 to 1% of the general population they are overrepresented by a factor of 16. India would not accept white Europeans comprising 16% of their software and tech jobs at a major company and neither should we. Indians should only be considered when whites with the requisite education and job skills reach full employment.

    And before you start rambling and stuttering about white nationalists being socialists India, Japan, China and every other non-white nation would only employ whites over their own people if their countrymen didn’t possess the requisite job skills for a particular industry. However, whites would be expected to educate and train their natives to eventually displace all foreigners whether white or other. Their meritocracies only extend to the racial ingroup.

    But those nations don’t have racial masochists and sellouts and greedy pricks in the business and government sector and don’t allow mass immigration from white nations or of people who are racially and culturally dissimilar to them so they don’t have to bother with such concerns.

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    But as Indians only represent .9 to 1% of the general population they are overrepresented by a factor of 16.
     
    So you are no better than the blacks who demand to be 13% of the tech industry. In other words, you are a wigger.

    The point is, Peterike insisted that once an Indian becomes a CEO, he pushes out all non-Indians. Then Peterike provided data showing that Microsoft is still 84% non-Indian even after 4 years of an Indian CEO, completely undermining his ignorant point and displaying his low Polack IQ.

    That is what happened here. Your wigger tangent is of no interest.
    , @animalogic
    "But those nations don’t have racial masochists and sellouts and greedy pricks in the business and government sector and don’t allow mass immigration from white nations or of people who are racially and culturally dissimilar to them so they don’t have to bother with such concerns."
    You are absolutely correct.
    The saddest thing is that this whole problem need NOT (given the political will) exist.
    1. Strict, but appropriate quotas on immigrant workers.
    2. Do not allow immigrant labor visas to become an easy opening to permanent residence/citizenship.
    3. Force (& enforce) the necessity of business to prove that they truly need to import labour.
    4. Force & enforce business to pay the SAME wage rates/conditions to immigrants as to natives. (ie enforce the average rate for that exact position as a minimum)
    5. Most importantly: incentivise Business & Education to train/educate natives for positions in current/future demand.

    The above may present some practical difficulties, yes, but it's not cheap fusion power either.
    , @Dagon Shield
    Like some bitch said... da crackers was there, so da niggers is here!
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  53. anon[321] • Disclaimer says:

    I live in the Seattle area and the author is spot on. Indians and Chinese have pretty much taken over the entire East Side and turned this place into an Indian/Chinese colony. Just in the last 10 years the local elementary schools have all gone from 90% white to 50% white, 50% Asian with about even split btwn Indian & Chinese. In some cities like Bellevue, some schools are 80% Asian. Even the whites here have completely cucked out. Bellevue used to be really conservative, a Republican stronghold even until 2012, now the entire Western Washington is staunchly Democrat. In my neighborhood every time a white family moves out, an Indian or Chinese family moves in. And they are horrible neighbors, unfriendly, unsociable, never take care of their house and just let the yards go to shit, so whites keep moving out, and eventually they take over the whole street and neighborhood. Anytime you see a million dollar home with grass that are over 2 ft high in the summer, you know it belongs to an Indian or Chinese.

    I watched a debate between Manka Dinghra and her opponent, an East Asian woman with a strange name. That fat Indian chick Manka Dinghra (a prosecutor) was unbearably full of herself. She spent the entire debate virtue signaling about Trump. At one point her frustrated opponent had to remind her that she is not running against Trump.

    As repulsive as she is, she is not even the worst Indian female politician around here. Two others in Seattle – Pramila Jayapal (we call her PayPal, now in Congress) and Kshama Sawant on the Seattle City Council are total left wing extremists. Kshama Sawant is the biggest idiot, you will always find her at every protest in Seattle (which is basically once a week) with a megaphone in hand. It’s not enough that these freaking Indians totally fucked up their own shithole country, now they’re here to turn us into another third world country like the one they left behind.

    I agree with the author of this piece, we need to ban all Asians esp. Indians from further immigration. The more of these people we bring in, the more we will resemble India. This is one reason I’m glad Trump’s “merit based” immigration plan didn’t go through. It’ll only bring in more of these arrogant libtard scam artists, we already have enough of them in this country, we don’t need to import more.

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    • Replies: @KenH
    What? You mean it's not like (((TV))) where there's always rainbow coalition backyard barbecues with lots of multiracial fun, frolics and laughs?
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  54. anon[321] • Disclaimer says:

    According to this National Asian-American Survey referenced in the article:

    http://naasurvey.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/NAAS16-post-election-report.pdf

    Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are the most liberal voting groups among all Asian groups. Chinese and Vietnamese are the most conservative, but still very liberal. Here’s how each group voted:

    Demo: Clinton, Trump:

    Bangladeshi: 90%, 4%
    Pakistani: 88%, 5%
    Cambodian: 78%, 12%
    Indian: 77%, 16%
    Korean: 75%, 18%
    Hmong: 74%, 21%
    Japanese: 74%, 19%
    Filipino: 65%, 28%
    Vietnamese: 61%, 34%
    Chinese: 61%, 35%

    I agree with the author, ultimately they are all uber liberal and voted to benefit themselves (more green cards for their relatives) rather than the country. We need a 20 year moratorium on all immigration period.

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    Given the way most yellows and Hindus feel politically, it makes no sense for whites to give a crap about them.
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  55. KenH says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    WRT Mossman's article Indians and whites have a lot of shared political problems.

    Indians suffer from their own version of "diversity" in the form of Mohammedans (whom are permitted polygamy under Indian law) and privileges for the scheduled castes. Hindu education is explicitly discriminated against in Indian law. Western-funded NGOs daily pour poison into the veins of India. A major fraction of the Indian elite has bought into Western liberalism as well.

    While I agree with Mossman's point that high-IQ immigrants are not an unalloyed good and can even be dangerous (see: the Jews), I think he is overplaying his hand with respect to Indians.

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man--by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.

    It's worth remembering when assessing Indians that they are our very, very distant cousins--especially the higher castes and fairer ones. They are quite similar to us in many ways despite a very different culture, religion, and society.

    I'm not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.

    I’m not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.

    Even though Indians might be preferable to some third world groups (diaspora Indians don’t seem to do violent crime or form rape gangs) they should be high on your radar since they tend to flip congressional districts and mayoral races to the left wing Democrat wherever they concentrate in large numbers as noted in this article. When they arrive in large numbers they just re-create India.

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    Another thing about Indians that whites don't know about is that Indians may act cordial and submissive in the US but within their own neighborhood India is known by its neighbors as a bully. This is why India is hated by all its neighbors. Not that this is relevant in this discussion.
    , @Anonymous
    It is because most of the indians who come to the west are higher caste, educated people. While the one who do rapes in india are lower caste and most of them from the lowest castes, low educated people.
    , @Thorfinnsson
    I don't deny any of this.

    Still, we're not talking about an inferior race (blacks, hispanics), an alien race (Asians), or a hostile race (Jews).

    I think we can assimilate the Indians very well provided further immigration from India is largely cut off.
    , @anon

    When they arrive in large numbers they just re-create India.
     
    The same can be said of any ethnic group. In small numbers, we assimilate them, in large numbers, they assimilate us. That's why the per country quota on green card issuance is essential and must not be scrapped. The Indians are working hard to get it scrapped, and Trump is ready to hand it to them with his new "merit-based" immigration plan.

    If our politicians weren't so corrupt and truly govern with the best interest of the country at heart, we'd put in a 0.01% limit per country every 10 years. That means no more than 32,000 immigrants from any one country every 10 years.
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  56. anon[321] • Disclaimer says:

    The 7% per country limit for green cards must *not* be scrapped. Without it the green card system will be completely inundated by Indians and Chinese. The EB5 investor visa has a similar per country limit, without it the Chinese will take all the visas. These country quotas are ingenious and must be kept. What we need is an overall reduction for all countries — reduce the 1 million new green cards a year to 250,000, but keep the per country limit at 7%. Better yet, no new green cards at all for the next 20 years. The EB5 should just be cancelled out right.

    The Seattle Times article mentioned that those who have been approved for a green card can have their H1b visa extended every 3 years until they receive their green card, which could be up to a couple of decades due to the per country limit. Trump at one point threatened to cancel the indefinite extensions, why doesn’t he just do it?! Why are we allowing people indefinite extensions? Send them all packing. Microsoft can let these people work out of their offices in India.

    Most annoying of all, why does Microsoft need to bring all these people in from India? With all the telcom technology, they can easily have these people work in India. It’ll even save them a bundle since they can pay them a lot less. Average salary for a Microsoft employee in Redmond is $180,000. Average salary for a tech worker in Bangalore is $29,000. Wouldn’t that be a better way to help develop a 3rd world country, by bringing the jobs there? Why is Microsoft bringing them all here?

    Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Fuckerberg and all the tech plantation owners don’t just want compliant 3rd world labor, they want to wreck the country doing it. Beyond just destroying our social cohesion, these tech workers put enormous strain on our environment. Everywhere you turn in the Seattle area beautiful wooded areas are being clear cut to build densely packed new developments so more people from India and China can all move here and live on top of us. Traffic in the Seattle area has gone from bad to near impossible in the last 10 years. But Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos don’t care, they are nicely ensconced in their pristine estate homes in Medina on Lake Washington.

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    Do you read Aesop much? Just sour grapes!
    , @Anon
    What with the incredible cost of housing in Santa Clara county ( Silicon Valley). I’ve often wondered why the tech giants can’t move their operations overseas.

    How difficult can it be? They’ve moved everything else overseas.

    Decades ago the San Francisco finiancial people moved all the clerical workers out of the ultra expensive San Francisco financial district. Only the upper rank execs are left in San Francisco. Cheaper rents, affordable housing and endurable commutes for the workers Win Win.

    Why can’t San Jose and Mountain View companies do the same? Send their workers back to China and India.
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  57. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @anon
    According to this National Asian-American Survey referenced in the article:
    http://naasurvey.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/NAAS16-post-election-report.pdf

    Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are the most liberal voting groups among all Asian groups. Chinese and Vietnamese are the most conservative, but still very liberal. Here's how each group voted:

    Demo: Clinton, Trump:

    Bangladeshi: 90%, 4%
    Pakistani: 88%, 5%
    Cambodian: 78%, 12%
    Indian: 77%, 16%
    Korean: 75%, 18%
    Hmong: 74%, 21%
    Japanese: 74%, 19%
    Filipino: 65%, 28%
    Vietnamese: 61%, 34%
    Chinese: 61%, 35%

    I agree with the author, ultimately they are all uber liberal and voted to benefit themselves (more green cards for their relatives) rather than the country. We need a 20 year moratorium on all immigration period.

    Given the way most yellows and Hindus feel politically, it makes no sense for whites to give a crap about them.

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    Do the whites give crap about them?
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  58. anon[321] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    WRT Mossman's article Indians and whites have a lot of shared political problems.

    Indians suffer from their own version of "diversity" in the form of Mohammedans (whom are permitted polygamy under Indian law) and privileges for the scheduled castes. Hindu education is explicitly discriminated against in Indian law. Western-funded NGOs daily pour poison into the veins of India. A major fraction of the Indian elite has bought into Western liberalism as well.

    While I agree with Mossman's point that high-IQ immigrants are not an unalloyed good and can even be dangerous (see: the Jews), I think he is overplaying his hand with respect to Indians.

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man--by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.

    It's worth remembering when assessing Indians that they are our very, very distant cousins--especially the higher castes and fairer ones. They are quite similar to us in many ways despite a very different culture, religion, and society.

    I'm not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man–by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.

    You are hallucinating. Indian men are just as liberal as Indian women. Just look at Sundra Pichai of Google, the Indian comedians Aziz Ansari, Hasan Minhaj, Kumail Nanjani, Calexit leaders Shankar Singam, US attorney Preet Bharara under Obama, the list goes on, all are big time leftists. Indians are loquacious and arrogant, very much like the Jews with their chutzpah. Tech and the H1b visa offer them a way in. Once they get in the next generation tend to go into banking, law, medicine or civil service, just like the Jews. In medicine many are caught up in medicare fraud. Indians are entering civil service in drove.

    You need to wake up in a hurry. Indians are the new Jews.

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    There are plenty of right-wing Indian men.

    Look for Indian men with muscles, as bodybuilding has made inroads in the Indian community.
    , @Thorfinnsson
    I wouldn't put Preet Bharara in the same category as those other people.

    There are also right-wing Indian-Americans such as Ajit Pai. They are very common in the bodybuilding community.

    As I said previously I do not approve of Indian immigration. I simply think we can assimilate the Indians we have if we cut off further immigration.
    , @Dagon Shield
    Calling Indians "the new Jews" is an insult to the Jews, though they do have one thing in common: neither of them needed to borrow someone's creed!
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  59. DB Cooper says:
    @KenH

    I’m not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.
     
    Even though Indians might be preferable to some third world groups (diaspora Indians don't seem to do violent crime or form rape gangs) they should be high on your radar since they tend to flip congressional districts and mayoral races to the left wing Democrat wherever they concentrate in large numbers as noted in this article. When they arrive in large numbers they just re-create India.

    Another thing about Indians that whites don’t know about is that Indians may act cordial and submissive in the US but within their own neighborhood India is known by its neighbors as a bully. This is why India is hated by all its neighbors. Not that this is relevant in this discussion.

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    That's true. I once worked with a much older Indian who was very respectful and deferential as well as highly intelligent and capable. I remarked to someone (an older white guy) who had known and worked with him for over a decade about how nice he was. The guy had surprised look on his face and when I asked why he apparently disagreed based on his facial expression he said "Have you ever heard him talk to his family?"

    I replied that I hadn't and he went on to tell me how he regularly screams, threatens and curses at his family members who work in his dry cleaning business in another city. And he also bragged about paying them less than minimum wage or sometimes not paying them at all.

    So, the supposedly "nice" Indian guy was using company time to manage his dry cleaning side businesses and tormenting his own family members who work for him. He had two very different faces and was careful not to let the ugly one show around most of the white faces.
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  60. Thomm says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Just got off the phone with a "Canadian" engineer (Chinese).

    Spoke broken English.

    Highly irritating.

    I'll pass on the economic benefits of skilled immigration. I have an Indian engineering intern (nice fellow), but he's returning to India to our subsidiary there once his training is complete.

    Preservation of a white demographic majority is an important policy goal, though efforts should be made to make inroads with Asians and Indians to get them to vote correctly.

    Don't have a problem with WNs as you do, simply consider their proposals (to the extent they exist) unworkable and unsaleable. They're definitely not "waste material" as a group either--take a look at Dick Spencer or Jared Taylor for instance. Of course you can counter with Heimbach and Parrott...yeesh.

    Preservation of a white demographic majority is an important policy goal, though efforts should be made to make inroads with Asians and Indians to get them to vote correctly.

    It is even worse. Asians used to vote MORE Republican than whites as recently as 1996 :

    They are the only group of the four that switched dramatically.

    Why did they switch? A combinations of the following reasons :

    i) The realized that the GOPe are phonies and it is really a uniparty (there are a few reasons Asians were able to notice this by 2000, long before whites did in 2016).
    ii) They observed how Jews make a lot of money by entrenching themselves into the system. Seeing as how it is a uniparty anyway as per i), quit the idealism and just work the system.
    iii) The appeal that Reagan had among Asians was too far in the past by 2000.

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    This might just be down to continuous immigration and the end of the Cold War.

    Pat Buchanan actually defended Asian immigration back in 1985.

    I will poll my...only...Asian (Vietnamese, arrived in California in 1976) friend on this. I now live in a whitopia so it's hard getting a read on non-whites.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Surely it was the Tea Party or contemporary changes in the Republican Party (not excluding George W. Bush and his crew) that had put off so many upper middle class old Americans who aldo switched smart Indians off Republicans. In Australia, though it is a logical inference more than personal knowledge, I count on the Chinese and smart Indians to protect us from the high taxing, high spending buyers of votes in the Labor Party. Why would they want to disproportionately support the negative contributors?
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  61. Thomm says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    I'm not associating color with IQ in the case of India.

    It's simply a fact that the fairer Indians are more closely related to us, as they are descended from the Aryan conquerors.

    There is an earlier dark-skinned caucasoid population in India, largely concentrated in the south (though they once farmed the Indus River Valley) which indeed produces many talented people.

    It’s simply a fact that the fairer Indians are more closely related to us, as they are descended from the Aryan conquerors.

    Related, yes. That also means are Pakistanis are even more related, and Afghans even more so, except for that pesky Islam thing.

    But around this board, I see too much conflation of IQ with Caucasianness with ‘high caste’ (I am not saying you are the one doing it). These correlations are virtually non-existent as I have learned. If they were, the high-income Indians in the US would look more like their movie stars, and would not be the short, dark, tubby ones we see here.

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    In the United Kingdom, the highest-income Indians tend to significantly be of Khatri origin (the Malhotras, Mehras, Kapoors, Chopras, Khannas, and so on). According to the new paper by Reich at al. on Indian ancestry, the Khatris (who are from North-West India) have the third-highest degree of Steppe ancestry in the whole of India, except for the Kalash and Pathan groups in northern Pakistan.

    I agree, though, that there is no correlation between Steppe ancestry and success.

    Source: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/31/292581
    , @Thorfinnsson
    There is definitely a correlation between IQ and caste. But within India, there is not necessarily a correlation between IQ and color.

    Globally there is an association between color and IQ, and you can often observe it within specific nationalities as well.
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  62. Thomm says:
    @KenH

    So only 16% are Indian and 84% are not Indian, even after 4 years of Satya Nadella at the helm.
     
    You're brilliant (sarc). But as Indians only represent .9 to 1% of the general population they are overrepresented by a factor of 16. India would not accept white Europeans comprising 16% of their software and tech jobs at a major company and neither should we. Indians should only be considered when whites with the requisite education and job skills reach full employment.

    And before you start rambling and stuttering about white nationalists being socialists India, Japan, China and every other non-white nation would only employ whites over their own people if their countrymen didn't possess the requisite job skills for a particular industry. However, whites would be expected to educate and train their natives to eventually displace all foreigners whether white or other. Their meritocracies only extend to the racial ingroup.

    But those nations don't have racial masochists and sellouts and greedy pricks in the business and government sector and don't allow mass immigration from white nations or of people who are racially and culturally dissimilar to them so they don't have to bother with such concerns.

    But as Indians only represent .9 to 1% of the general population they are overrepresented by a factor of 16.

    So you are no better than the blacks who demand to be 13% of the tech industry. In other words, you are a wigger.

    The point is, Peterike insisted that once an Indian becomes a CEO, he pushes out all non-Indians. Then Peterike provided data showing that Microsoft is still 84% non-Indian even after 4 years of an Indian CEO, completely undermining his ignorant point and displaying his low Polack IQ.

    That is what happened here. Your wigger tangent is of no interest.

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    Wow, your charm and insight really went over the top when you repeated the old canard that Poles are stupid.
    , @KenH

    So you are no better than the blacks who demand to be 13% of the tech industry. In other words, you are a wigger.
     
    Peeping Thomm, you just have poor reading comprehension skills beside having a fourth rate intellect. Using your own cheesy estimates it can be circumstantially proven that Microsoft is discriminating in favor of Indians (and Orientals) which you think is great because of your Indian fetish. Being overrepresented by a factor of 16 wouldn't raise eyebrows in a black African nation but it should in a first world majority white nation that invented and pioneered software and computer technology.

    This trend started before the current Indian CEO but you haven't offered any proof that he is diverging from the company's racial spoils system in hiring. Since Indians are consummate racial and familial nepotists it's safe to assume Microsoft's dot headed CEO is doing his part to Indianize the company as much or more than his predecessors.

    Oracle was doing the same thing, but they got busted for it unlike Microsoft:
    https://qz.com/889524/the-us-says-oracle-is-encouraging-indians-to-hire-others-indians-and-its-killing-diversity/

    You're much too small minded and bigoted to understand and acknowledge these things. All that first cousin marriage in the Jewish community has affected your brain. The cure is to go stand out in the middle of a busy highway.

    You're the quota queen. You just called for 60% "Asian"immigration and 40% white (mostly Russian). That's the stupidest thing anyone's ever heard of since America wasn't founded and built by either group but we should consider the source it came from.

    Your response is just typical of your many menopausal temper tantrums.

    , @Medvedev

    Then Peterike provided data showing that Microsoft is still 84% non-Indian even after 4 years of an Indian CEO
     
    These data doesn't tell us much. You can't just replace 100k employees overnight. What you need to look for - race ratios among laid off/hired employees.

    Google Tech workforce changed from:
    60% White in 2014 -> 53% White in 2017 (-7 pp)
    33% Asian in 2014 -> 39% Asian in 2017 (+6 pp)
    Percentage losses of Whites translated to gains for Asians (not necessarily Indians).
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  63. This person said trying to talk to them (Taiwanese) about human rights, freedom, and democracy was like trying to upload a new brain to a robot.

    Probably more like trying to use the same old bullshit on people who now see through it.

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  64. An Indian says:

    What I have never seen reported: Universities fill empty seats in Computer Science classes with foreign students (almost entirely Indians), when Americans do not fill these seats. Should Americans (any race) choose to register for these courses, they have to pay tuition. Universities keep these courses open by filling them with foreign students who are given full scholarships. I have observed this at two universities. At these universities, you will often see these students performing on-campus jobs. This further assists them to meet their expenses. American tax-payers are financing their own colonization and, by extension, victimization. The American education system has priced education beyond the reach of its tax-payers but offer the same education, tuition-free, to foreign students.

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    The Jews who run our universities love the Magic Indian only second to the Magic Negro. They are a little smarter, less violent and infinitely more servile to their Jew masters. Jews would love to replace the entire west with servile Indians, the negroes of the East.
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  65. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    because they are the only one capable of emulating western SJWism, while every other non-white group leans authoritarian over time.
     
    Only because Indians have been under democracy longer, so the problems of democracy (feminism, etc.) have had longer to manifest.

    Nope.

    The problem originates with Indians themselves.

    It has to do with the caste system and how that skews high caste Indians into virtue signaling SJW.

    Indian society is what America would look like if SJW win. Importing more Indians just accelerates the process.

    Just look at Canada and what the massive influx of Indians have done to that country. Unprecedented immigration and Tredeau.

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    Not just US & Canada, even Mauritius, Nepal & Sri Lanka are flooded to change their vote bank.

    I was told Singapore is now literally a Little Delhi, they even stage a biggest riots in Spore 50yrs history with violent Indian drunkards - aka foreign IT talents.

    They attempted Oz, but the backlash save the country. They are now asking China to open up to their IT sector, that will be a good fight consider they have equivalent number to match.

    Weapon of Mass Migration WMM - the latest most potent weapon to invade a country without a fight.
    , @TT
    Not just US & Canada, even Mauritius, Nepal & Sri Lanka are flooded to change their vote bank.

    I was told Singapore is now literally a Little Delhi, they even stage a biggest riots in Spore 50yrs history with violent Indian drunkards - aka foreign IT talents.

    They attempted Oz, but the backlash save the country. They are now asking China to open up to their IT sector, that will be a good fight consider they have equivalent number to match.

    Weapon of Mass Migration WMM - the latest most potent weapon to invade a country without a fight. George Soros Open Society is most zealous in this project, flooding refugees everywhere.

    Don't blame the Indian, its our foolish elected gov been too weak to resist deep states of FUKUSIn demand to implement self destruction immigration policy. They merely come in as invited legal migrants, work in godsend good jobs that taken away from more qualified locals, and enjoy whatever our ancestors build up for us.

    What's wrong? at least they never come in like the FUKUS in gunboats.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    True, though Canada has more "diversity" in terms of the immigrants they bring in, ie. From all over and not just Mexico/ wherever.

    This leads to funny tensions. Just about every immigrant group hates Indians. Chinese, Pakistani.

    Here's what I'll say about Indians. I've worked with some of them (in tech) and they're not bad at all. Nice people, conservative people. But they've been here for a long time and seem to be the 0.01%. Recently Canada has gotten more desperate for immigrants, and now you see the real Indians coming over.

    Dirty, smelly, tribal, rude. They start off by only importing the 0.01% smartest. Then they start to bring in the rest and you go "Oh, this is why India is a shithole".
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  66. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    Friendly reminder in this thread, Thomm is an Indian masquerading as a white man.

    Indian threads always are the same with mass Indian trolls trying to argue their way against facts.

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    Ridiculous bollocks why shouldn't Indians comment on a post attacking us.
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  67. Biff says:

    that they have nothing to learn from Americans about individual freedom and democracy. They are here to make money. They don’t want to assimilate and become real Americans.

    Learn from Americans about freedom? What a load. Americans are deathly afraid of freedom – just look at how they cling to a National Security State, and tolerate a militarized Police State.
    Americans are total chickenshits when confronted with authority. Just one gander at how they are abused at their own airports, and you can only come to the conclusion that this is not a group of free people.
    The only Asian country that treats its citizens as suspects is North Korea.

    Learn from Americans – pffft. What a moron.

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  68. Biff says:

    look at the Indian colonization of Seattle’s Eastside

    If their was a dump on this planet deserving of a colonization of alien spider monkeys infested with cockroaches it would be the Seattle area.
    What we have here is a feel good essay.

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  69. Mark Presco says: • Website

    If Indians are so smart, why can’t they provide jobs for their own people? Perhaps these indispensable Indians are needed in India in order to make India a first world country. Shouldn’t that be their primary responsibility?

    Like all other third worlders, the only thing they have figured out to do is dump themselves white men and demand that we provide them a first world quality of life.

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    See what happen in US & the West now that lay the good pay manufacturing sector to waste, extreme corrupted ruling class looking after own oligarchy interest.

    US was built up by forefathers & hardworking migrants (besides all the raping of world resources through endless wars), when it collapse, you will understand why US could not provide jobs for its people. Ask the corrupted ruling class & capitalist.

    Pre-colonial India been a ~40% world GDP like China, was diminished into 4% world GDP after British colonial master depart, with millions of Indian sepoy dying to help them invade other countries.

    Thereafter, it continue to invade all neighbours including China(get humiliating defeated) up to now, squandering all essential resources in corruption & military. The ruling caste simply uninterested in helping the poor or built a prosperous strong country. A mirror of current West.

    Unlike India, Chinese know better to expand the cake. By 2020, it will eliminate all poverty while all our so called 1st world are still having 20% poverty.
    , @Anonymous
    You should be ashamed of yourself for engaging in ignorant bluster.

    You are even ignorant of the more or less accurate published records of average Indian IQ which is low despite the fact that millions in the upper castes have IQs significantly above the white American average. So "if Indians are so smart" is just fatuous.

    Far from Indian immigrants to the US dumping themselves on white America and demanding that "we" [*you* FFS!] provide "them a first world quality of life" they are probably amongst Mitt Romney's 47 per cent who, as taxpayers, actually pay their way. Are you? Could you be with your revealed cognitive limitations?

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  70. anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Hi, I did not respond immediately as I didn't see it as germane to this thread.

    But then I saw people said hateful things to you.

    I just want to say you have a beautiful, handsome young son who I hope grows up to become to be a great man.

    God bless.

    But then I saw people said hateful things to you.

    This from a racist hateful Islamophobe like you? LOL!

    I just want to say you have a beautiful, handsome young son who I hope grows up to become to be a great man.

    In the Red Pill Scum’s blog, this degenerate talks about how Blacks are not welcome in the family, but Whites, totally ok. Apparently many in his extended family have been “blessed” with white spouses. He seems quite pleased with the idea, and perhaps his boy will be groomed in that manner too… who knows maybe you could be a future in-law.

    And, this from a person whose country of origin is filled with “black” people, especially his Tamil area. Can you imagine the contempt he must have for his “brethren” when he is walking around his hometown? Racist scum like you may understand and find it acceptable, but others with a functioning moral compass will simply find it repulsive.

    Btw, he also mentions Muslims as persona non grata, but no True Monotheist would marry into a pagan polytheist shithole (see my post above) anyway, so we will let that pass. :)

    With a racist degenerate for a father, that beautiful little innocent better be blessed to find another path, soon after he reaches the age of self reason… God willing. Following in his father’s footsteps will not make him a “great” man, unless you are one of those who think mass murderers like Modi and his ilk, and those supporters of child rape, torture and murder, are “great” men.

    God bless.

    The Almighty One’s ways are truly mysterious. Those He as truly condemned appear to be blessed with much glory and wealth, and those He has truly blessed appear to be condemned with ignominy and poverty.

    The only true blessing is Paradise. No pagan polytheist human/animal worshipper and/or the godless, will ever enter that blessed place.

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    This from a racist hateful Islamophobe like you? LOL!
     

    I am in favor of racism, hate, and Islamophobia.

    Racism is objectively correct, and everyone who is not a racist is wrong.

    Hate is a human right.

    Islam is a dark blot on the world which must be destroyed. Mecca should be obliterated with atomic fire, and that will cause all Mohammedans in the world to slump over.

    In the Red Pill Scum’s blog, this degenerate talks about how Blacks are not welcome in the family, but Whites, totally ok. Apparently many in his extended family have been “blessed” with white spouses. He seems quite pleased with the idea, and perhaps his boy will be groomed in that manner too… who knows maybe you could be a future in-law.

    And, this from a person whose country of origin is filled with “black” people, especially his Tamil area. Can you imagine the contempt he must have for his “brethren” when he is walking around his hometown? Racist scum like you may understand and find it acceptable, but others with a functioning moral compass will simply find it repulsive.
     

    Dark-skinned Indians are not blacks. Most are Dravidian caucasoids, and a few (typically in scheduled castes) are from Indian's archaic Australoid population.

    Blacks are African negroids, who are truly an inferior race and cursed.

    You keep using "racist" as an epithet, but in fact being a racist is good and correct. The only people who find it repulsive are people cowed by the post-Christian heresy that infects the West.

    You are probably not even white based on caring about this bizarre, trivial Indian issue which means you should even care about the term "racism".

    The Almighty One’s ways are truly mysterious. Those He as truly condemned appear to be blessed with much glory and wealth, and those He has truly blessed appear to be condemned with ignominy and poverty.

    The only true blessing is Paradise. No pagan polytheist human/animal worshipper and/or the godless, will ever enter that blessed place.
     

    Get bent loser.

    I bet you have dark skin which is why you got so mad. And likely a Mohammedan as well.

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  71. utu says:
    @Ivan
    There is a much simpler explanation of why Indians vote for the Left in the US. They are world's ranking hypocrites along with Muslims and Jews.

    You are absolutely correct. It works for them for now but they are the greatest racists themselves who do not believe in egalitarian society..

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  72. utu says:

    So what should we do with Indians? How many could we send back? We should give them training in sanitary engineering and upon returning to Indian they could start building toilets in India. This is what India needs the most. Sanitary engineers. Certainly we do not need Indians.

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  73. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Jason Liu
    This article is filled with errors and outdated, contradictory thinking.

    Indians are the one group most likely to genuinely believe in western liberalism, other minority groups vote left for self-interest while being more conservative in private. Your analysis is skewed by a small number of hypocritical conservative Indians while missing the larger liberal trend. This makes Indians a particularly dangerous group, because they are the only one capable of emulating western SJWism, while every other non-white group leans authoritarian over time.

    In fact, Modi is fighting an uphill battle against the encroachment of western liberalism, mostly spearheaded by Indian elites. If more Indians were really Modi-loving nationalists, their leftist voting patterns would mostly be a sham and less problematic in the realm of ideological conflict.

    Many Chinese, Indians, and probably others regard western rhetoric about freedom, human rights, and democracy as gateway drugs, if not a Trojan Horse for western degeneracy. And they are right. Go speak to a white liberal about restricting immigration and they'll start lecturing you about freedom, rights, and democracy. Same with every other issue the right cares about. Awfully strange of you to advocate for others the same values that caused the problems you complain about.

    Granted, you may believe in freedom, rights and democracy in the old-school, strictly constitutional sense. That definition is no longer in use today. Today, western values is little more than a generic appeal to "being nice", tolerating everything, and fetishizing equality. This is why western media constantly accuses right-wing populists of tearing down liberal institutions and undermining democracy, even though they were democratically elected. In other words, western values = leftism.

    So us foreign critics are not oblivious to your values, we actually see them more clearly than Jesse Mossman. Which is exactly why we don't want them.

    Agreed. Educated Indians are very often genuinely PC. They constantly virtue signal against Modi who clearly represents a counter-vailing force to all of their progressive nonsense.

    Modi is not exactly the same as Trump. He is Indian. He is however his equivalent and gets all of the vitriol from Indian elites in exactly the same way. Netanyahu is another, as is Putin as is Orban.

    They all represent a reasonable, rational alternative to the progressive cult.

    Interestingly, MBS in Saudi Arabia also occupies the same space but his main rival is the Jihadi cult.

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  74. @Thomm
    Jesse Mossman is pretty ignorant. How did a WN wigger get to write an article here?

    From what I understand, Modi is right-wing, and restricts Muslims a lot. That is good.

    Furthermore, H1-Bs have an average salary only 15% lower than local Americans. Not two-thirds lower, as Jesse Mossman ignorantly claims without any source.

    H1-B should be abolished outright, but for other reasons.

    From what I understand, Modi is right-wing, and restricts Muslims a lot. That is good.

    Modi is an insane freak who crucified India’s rural economy with his ban on large banknotes. He cares nothing for people. Like a typical Indian douchebag, he wants only wealth and popularity for himself, irrespective of how his vain pursuits affect the larger world.

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  75. @M. Thomas
    This essay is completely detached from reality. As someone who has actually worked at Microsoft as a software engineer, I can assure you that there was indeed a 'colonization' of Microsoft - by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian.

    Why are most of them Indian? Because India provides free higher education for students who qualify. This includes degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. This directly results in India creating many more qualified software engineers than the U.S. In fact, the U.S. is graduating fewer and fewer professionals in computer science, presumably because of the exorbitant cost and crushing debt.

    If the U.S. wants to 'colonize' Microsoft with white Americans, then I suggest America follow India's example and provide high quality, free education. It's really that simple.

    Oh, and yes these Indians are socialists because their high paying jobs at Microsoft (and Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) are the direct result of the quality education they received in a socialist system. Rather than criticizing in an obviously racist way, perhaps we should learn something.

    Best,
    M. Thomas

    “Oh, and yes these Indians are socialists because their high paying jobs at Microsoft (and Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) are the direct result of the quality education they received in a socialist system.”

    Free tertiary education is not “socialism”. (The affects of trillions of $$ of student debt on the current/future economy would suggest its a species of common sense). India is not socialist. At best or worst it retains elements of a Keynesian “mixed economy”, like the UK & the US from 1945 to 1980′ish) Indeed, it is a committed capitalist nation. India & its inhabitants want to be rich: that is the simple bit.
    As for the author’s profound political confusion, voting or representing the Democratic party is neither left nor Socialist. The democrats as left or socialist is hilarious, if not mind boggling.
    Oh sure, the democrats tend to pander to the PC mob a little more than the others — ie multiculturalism, feminism blah blah. So, the Indians figure the Dem’s are a better bet at getting Aunt & Uncle a green card: yep, real socialists.

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  76. @Anonymous
    Losers are always bitter. Thanks for proving yourself a loser.

    And an immigrant, too.

    Ah, won't the ironies ever end.

    Alright Anonymous 164, or should I call you Anonymous 204, or M. Thomas, or Thomm?

    We all know that you are an Indian weirdo who street-shits all over any Unz.com post that threatens to expose the abuses your countrymen have perpetrated upon our people. Your shtick isn’t convincing anyone, and you are only making more “White Trashionalists” with every word you type.

    Your sick psychology is happily not my concern and you are clearly beyond the reach of any argument, but just know this and meditate upon it in your pathetic intellectual hovel. You are going to lose. Nothing you write can change the reality of Indian backwardness, decrepitude, and moral culpability. These are the facts M. Thommas Anonymous, and it is these facts that will determine outcomes, while you will leave, as the sole monument to your existence, naught but a collection of snarky posts.

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    Yes, I'm surprised that the moderators have allowed not two, but four handles from one poster in this thread.

    Read my other comment about how the real Indians act. Once Canada stopped bringing in only the most amazing Indian immigrants you start to see how stupid and nepotistic the average Indian is.

    Tommy can cover it up but when you see it with your own two eyes his desperate attempts make no difference.
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  77. @KenH

    So only 16% are Indian and 84% are not Indian, even after 4 years of Satya Nadella at the helm.
     
    You're brilliant (sarc). But as Indians only represent .9 to 1% of the general population they are overrepresented by a factor of 16. India would not accept white Europeans comprising 16% of their software and tech jobs at a major company and neither should we. Indians should only be considered when whites with the requisite education and job skills reach full employment.

    And before you start rambling and stuttering about white nationalists being socialists India, Japan, China and every other non-white nation would only employ whites over their own people if their countrymen didn't possess the requisite job skills for a particular industry. However, whites would be expected to educate and train their natives to eventually displace all foreigners whether white or other. Their meritocracies only extend to the racial ingroup.

    But those nations don't have racial masochists and sellouts and greedy pricks in the business and government sector and don't allow mass immigration from white nations or of people who are racially and culturally dissimilar to them so they don't have to bother with such concerns.

    “But those nations don’t have racial masochists and sellouts and greedy pricks in the business and government sector and don’t allow mass immigration from white nations or of people who are racially and culturally dissimilar to them so they don’t have to bother with such concerns.”
    You are absolutely correct.
    The saddest thing is that this whole problem need NOT (given the political will) exist.
    1. Strict, but appropriate quotas on immigrant workers.
    2. Do not allow immigrant labor visas to become an easy opening to permanent residence/citizenship.
    3. Force (& enforce) the necessity of business to prove that they truly need to import labour.
    4. Force & enforce business to pay the SAME wage rates/conditions to immigrants as to natives. (ie enforce the average rate for that exact position as a minimum)
    5. Most importantly: incentivise Business & Education to train/educate natives for positions in current/future demand.

    The above may present some practical difficulties, yes, but it’s not cheap fusion power either.

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  78. @Jason Liu
    This article is filled with errors and outdated, contradictory thinking.

    Indians are the one group most likely to genuinely believe in western liberalism, other minority groups vote left for self-interest while being more conservative in private. Your analysis is skewed by a small number of hypocritical conservative Indians while missing the larger liberal trend. This makes Indians a particularly dangerous group, because they are the only one capable of emulating western SJWism, while every other non-white group leans authoritarian over time.

    In fact, Modi is fighting an uphill battle against the encroachment of western liberalism, mostly spearheaded by Indian elites. If more Indians were really Modi-loving nationalists, their leftist voting patterns would mostly be a sham and less problematic in the realm of ideological conflict.

    Many Chinese, Indians, and probably others regard western rhetoric about freedom, human rights, and democracy as gateway drugs, if not a Trojan Horse for western degeneracy. And they are right. Go speak to a white liberal about restricting immigration and they'll start lecturing you about freedom, rights, and democracy. Same with every other issue the right cares about. Awfully strange of you to advocate for others the same values that caused the problems you complain about.

    Granted, you may believe in freedom, rights and democracy in the old-school, strictly constitutional sense. That definition is no longer in use today. Today, western values is little more than a generic appeal to "being nice", tolerating everything, and fetishizing equality. This is why western media constantly accuses right-wing populists of tearing down liberal institutions and undermining democracy, even though they were democratically elected. In other words, western values = leftism.

    So us foreign critics are not oblivious to your values, we actually see them more clearly than Jesse Mossman. Which is exactly why we don't want them.

    Indian society is all about getting-over on others. It is a low-trust society.

    “This friend agreed that the combination of an ancient culture and new wealth tends to give both Indians and Chinese an arrogant feeling of superiority—that they have nothing to learn from Americans about individual freedom and democracy.”

    They don’t believe in American Institutions. They just want to plunder them, because there is so much more to plunder here.

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  79. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    I’m not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.
     
    Even though Indians might be preferable to some third world groups (diaspora Indians don't seem to do violent crime or form rape gangs) they should be high on your radar since they tend to flip congressional districts and mayoral races to the left wing Democrat wherever they concentrate in large numbers as noted in this article. When they arrive in large numbers they just re-create India.

    It is because most of the indians who come to the west are higher caste, educated people. While the one who do rapes in india are lower caste and most of them from the lowest castes, low educated people.

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    It is because most of the indians who come to the west are higher caste, educated people. While the one who do rapes in india are lower caste and most of them from the lowest castes, low educated people.
     
    Only Indian would shit all over his own people like this.
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  80. Edward says:

    I strongly disagree with much of this article. First of all, Modi is liberalizing the Indian economy, not going in the other direction.

    Secondly, if Indians were naturally “leftists”, why do Indians in Britain favour the Conservative Party over the Labour Party. This hasn’t always been historically true, but as the Labour Party in Britain has drifted increasingly leftward, Indians have increasingly favoured the Conservatives:

    The 2015 election saw the Conservatives receive 1m ethnic minority votes for the first time in its electoral history. And those votes came largely at Labour’s expense. A post-election survey by British Future showed the Tories enjoyed an eight percentage point advantage over Labour among Britain’s Hindu and Sikh communities. The Conservatives have 49% popularity among both ethno-religious groups, to Labour’s 41%.

    Why? British Indians have the highest average incomes out of any group in Britain, just as Indian-Americans have the highest household incomes in the United States. The difference is that the Republicans are perceived as being much more extreme in the United States than the Conservatives are in Britain, while the Democrats are more in favour of economic freedom than Labour are in Britain.

    Corbyn’s old-fashioned social democratic model of political economy – high taxes funding an all-encompassing welfare state designed for mass wealth redistribution – is unlikely to command much support among aspirational British Indian voters. The reality is that if many had reservations over the interventionist nature of the economic policies promoted under Ed Miliband’s leadership, they are also likely to find the core tenets of Corbynism unpalatable…

    Out of Britain’s sizeable ethnic minority groups, British Indians are the most likely to work in salaried professions. Research from 2010 also showed the fertility rate within the British Indian community fell below the UK average. When combining the realities of greater occupational advancement, low fertility rates and relatively high female economic activity, the archetypal British Indian family is comparatively small, self-sufficient and minimally reliant on welfare assistance. So comprehensive welfare commitments are unlikely to appeal to them.

    From: https://theconversation.com/how-the-conservatives-stole-the-british-indian-vote-from-labour-77275

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    The article isn’t about Indians in the UK.

    It’s about Indians in America so your comment is pointless and stupid.

    The two different groups have very different goals. The UK Indians want a more pro business government. So they are conservative.

    Indians in America want more discrimination against American Whites and more affirmative action opportunities for blacks Browns tans and yellows.

    Two different populations, two different goals.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    You give me comfort that my hope that Indians and Chinese in Australia will not support high spending vote buying Labor will be fulfilled.
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  81. Edward says:
    @Thomm

    It’s simply a fact that the fairer Indians are more closely related to us, as they are descended from the Aryan conquerors.
     
    Related, yes. That also means are Pakistanis are even more related, and Afghans even more so, except for that pesky Islam thing.

    But around this board, I see too much conflation of IQ with Caucasianness with 'high caste' (I am not saying you are the one doing it). These correlations are virtually non-existent as I have learned. If they were, the high-income Indians in the US would look more like their movie stars, and would not be the short, dark, tubby ones we see here.

    In the United Kingdom, the highest-income Indians tend to significantly be of Khatri origin (the Malhotras, Mehras, Kapoors, Chopras, Khannas, and so on). According to the new paper by Reich at al. on Indian ancestry, the Khatris (who are from North-West India) have the third-highest degree of Steppe ancestry in the whole of India, except for the Kalash and Pathan groups in northern Pakistan.

    I agree, though, that there is no correlation between Steppe ancestry and success.

    Source: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/31/292581

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    True, but a lot of the tech Indians in the US who have very high incomes tend to be tubby, short, dark South Indians. Probably Tamils from what I am told.
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  82. The article reminds me of Uganda, that around 1970 expelled all Indians.
    One of the expelled Indians ran a cement factory.
    Making cement is a dusty business, in any case, it was at the time in Uganda.
    The Indian owner every now and then cleaned the roof from cement dust.
    The Ugandan who took over the factory did not bother.
    When the rain came the roof collapsed.
    Anyone who knows anything about IT knows that Indians are good at it.
    A world wide USA based consultancy IT firm employs in India some 80.000 employees for programming.

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    Anyone who knows anything about IT knows that Indians are good at it.
     
    Only an Indian would make that claim. The best developers I've worked with are all white, with an occasional east asian or Russian. Indians are mediocre at best, many are downright bad.

    If Indians techies are that great, why is the Indian tech sector still nothing more than outsourcing support after 3 decades? The Chinese copied our ideas but at least they customized and improved on them to make them their own. Indians can't even copy properly.

    , @Anon
    Seems as though you approve of job replacement for Americans but not the Dutch.

    There are millions of Americans with 110 to 120 IQs who could perfectly well be programmers. But they are not accepted into college because they are White.

    And every American employer is reluctant to hire White Americas because of severe affirmative action discrimination policies persecuted by numerous government agencies.

    Why bother hiring a White American when it will bring down all sorts of investigations and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines?

    Better to just avoid hiring Whites and avoid the investigations and fines.
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  83. KenH says:
    @anon
    I live in the Seattle area and the author is spot on. Indians and Chinese have pretty much taken over the entire East Side and turned this place into an Indian/Chinese colony. Just in the last 10 years the local elementary schools have all gone from 90% white to 50% white, 50% Asian with about even split btwn Indian & Chinese. In some cities like Bellevue, some schools are 80% Asian. Even the whites here have completely cucked out. Bellevue used to be really conservative, a Republican stronghold even until 2012, now the entire Western Washington is staunchly Democrat. In my neighborhood every time a white family moves out, an Indian or Chinese family moves in. And they are horrible neighbors, unfriendly, unsociable, never take care of their house and just let the yards go to shit, so whites keep moving out, and eventually they take over the whole street and neighborhood. Anytime you see a million dollar home with grass that are over 2 ft high in the summer, you know it belongs to an Indian or Chinese.

    I watched a debate between Manka Dinghra and her opponent, an East Asian woman with a strange name. That fat Indian chick Manka Dinghra (a prosecutor) was unbearably full of herself. She spent the entire debate virtue signaling about Trump. At one point her frustrated opponent had to remind her that she is not running against Trump.

    As repulsive as she is, she is not even the worst Indian female politician around here. Two others in Seattle - Pramila Jayapal (we call her PayPal, now in Congress) and Kshama Sawant on the Seattle City Council are total left wing extremists. Kshama Sawant is the biggest idiot, you will always find her at every protest in Seattle (which is basically once a week) with a megaphone in hand. It's not enough that these freaking Indians totally fucked up their own shithole country, now they're here to turn us into another third world country like the one they left behind.

    I agree with the author of this piece, we need to ban all Asians esp. Indians from further immigration. The more of these people we bring in, the more we will resemble India. This is one reason I'm glad Trump's "merit based" immigration plan didn't go through. It'll only bring in more of these arrogant libtard scam artists, we already have enough of them in this country, we don't need to import more.

    What? You mean it’s not like (((TV))) where there’s always rainbow coalition backyard barbecues with lots of multiracial fun, frolics and laughs?

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  84. @KenH

    I’m not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.
     
    Even though Indians might be preferable to some third world groups (diaspora Indians don't seem to do violent crime or form rape gangs) they should be high on your radar since they tend to flip congressional districts and mayoral races to the left wing Democrat wherever they concentrate in large numbers as noted in this article. When they arrive in large numbers they just re-create India.

    I don’t deny any of this.

    Still, we’re not talking about an inferior race (blacks, hispanics), an alien race (Asians), or a hostile race (Jews).

    I think we can assimilate the Indians very well provided further immigration from India is largely cut off.

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    In Canada the second generation Indians are almost always well adjusted and act like the white kids.

    It's just that Indians don't seem to have any kids when they come here. Big gender imbalance as well (mostly men). Well I'm okay with that.
    , @Anon
    Hispanics, Filipinos and the few Japanese are the most assimilated nonWhite groups.

    Of course many Hispanics are of White European , not American Indian descent. Even newly arrived Filipinos are very assimilated because they learned English in school and it was an American colony for about 50?? Years.

    Filipinos don’t even look for Filipino neighborhoods. It helps that they are mostly educated medical people.

    When Indians take over towns like Cupertino ca and Redmond wa they won’t assimilate.
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  85. @anon

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man–by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.
     
    You are hallucinating. Indian men are just as liberal as Indian women. Just look at Sundra Pichai of Google, the Indian comedians Aziz Ansari, Hasan Minhaj, Kumail Nanjani, Calexit leaders Shankar Singam, US attorney Preet Bharara under Obama, the list goes on, all are big time leftists. Indians are loquacious and arrogant, very much like the Jews with their chutzpah. Tech and the H1b visa offer them a way in. Once they get in the next generation tend to go into banking, law, medicine or civil service, just like the Jews. In medicine many are caught up in medicare fraud. Indians are entering civil service in drove.

    You need to wake up in a hurry. Indians are the new Jews.

    There are plenty of right-wing Indian men.

    Look for Indian men with muscles, as bodybuilding has made inroads in the Indian community.

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    There are plenty of right-wing Indian men.

    Look for Indian men with muscles, as bodybuilding has made inroads in the Indian community.
     
    Look at comment #54, 77% of Indians voted for Clinton. What % of Indian men are into bodybuilding? Most are totally out of shape weasels with pot bellies. To base your entire claim on a tiny negligible minority is just ridiculous.
    , @Anonymous
    Interesting how there are so many Indians masquerading as Europeans at Unz. This is a very common tactic of Indians and should have been expected though.

    Sorry Apu, no one believes you are white.

    Yet another reason to not want more Indians in this country.
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  86. @Thomm

    Preservation of a white demographic majority is an important policy goal, though efforts should be made to make inroads with Asians and Indians to get them to vote correctly.
     
    It is even worse. Asians used to vote MORE Republican than whites as recently as 1996 :

    http://themonkeycage.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/asian-demvote1.png

    They are the only group of the four that switched dramatically.

    Why did they switch? A combinations of the following reasons :

    i) The realized that the GOPe are phonies and it is really a uniparty (there are a few reasons Asians were able to notice this by 2000, long before whites did in 2016).
    ii) They observed how Jews make a lot of money by entrenching themselves into the system. Seeing as how it is a uniparty anyway as per i), quit the idealism and just work the system.
    iii) The appeal that Reagan had among Asians was too far in the past by 2000.

    This might just be down to continuous immigration and the end of the Cold War.

    Pat Buchanan actually defended Asian immigration back in 1985.

    I will poll my…only…Asian (Vietnamese, arrived in California in 1976) friend on this. I now live in a whitopia so it’s hard getting a read on non-whites.

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  87. @Thomm

    It’s simply a fact that the fairer Indians are more closely related to us, as they are descended from the Aryan conquerors.
     
    Related, yes. That also means are Pakistanis are even more related, and Afghans even more so, except for that pesky Islam thing.

    But around this board, I see too much conflation of IQ with Caucasianness with 'high caste' (I am not saying you are the one doing it). These correlations are virtually non-existent as I have learned. If they were, the high-income Indians in the US would look more like their movie stars, and would not be the short, dark, tubby ones we see here.

    There is definitely a correlation between IQ and caste. But within India, there is not necessarily a correlation between IQ and color.

    Globally there is an association between color and IQ, and you can often observe it within specific nationalities as well.

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  88. @anon

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man–by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.
     
    You are hallucinating. Indian men are just as liberal as Indian women. Just look at Sundra Pichai of Google, the Indian comedians Aziz Ansari, Hasan Minhaj, Kumail Nanjani, Calexit leaders Shankar Singam, US attorney Preet Bharara under Obama, the list goes on, all are big time leftists. Indians are loquacious and arrogant, very much like the Jews with their chutzpah. Tech and the H1b visa offer them a way in. Once they get in the next generation tend to go into banking, law, medicine or civil service, just like the Jews. In medicine many are caught up in medicare fraud. Indians are entering civil service in drove.

    You need to wake up in a hurry. Indians are the new Jews.

    I wouldn’t put Preet Bharara in the same category as those other people.

    There are also right-wing Indian-Americans such as Ajit Pai. They are very common in the bodybuilding community.

    As I said previously I do not approve of Indian immigration. I simply think we can assimilate the Indians we have if we cut off further immigration.

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    I simply think we can assimilate the Indian
     
    Assimilation implies miscegenation, it is better to deport them all (no exceptions allowed), if not that then at least practice segregation. The reason India lost its Aryan invader population is because of assimilation through the ages, becoming the big brown demographic mess it is today.
    , @anonymous
    There is an easy and simple way for Indians to assimilate and become productive members of White society.

    1) Sharp object
    2) Extended arm
    3) Remember to cut "down the road," not "across the street."

    Clench hard and in a short time, they can contribute as well as their rest of their shit!
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  89. @Thomm

    Preservation of a white demographic majority is an important policy goal, though efforts should be made to make inroads with Asians and Indians to get them to vote correctly.
     
    It is even worse. Asians used to vote MORE Republican than whites as recently as 1996 :

    http://themonkeycage.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/asian-demvote1.png

    They are the only group of the four that switched dramatically.

    Why did they switch? A combinations of the following reasons :

    i) The realized that the GOPe are phonies and it is really a uniparty (there are a few reasons Asians were able to notice this by 2000, long before whites did in 2016).
    ii) They observed how Jews make a lot of money by entrenching themselves into the system. Seeing as how it is a uniparty anyway as per i), quit the idealism and just work the system.
    iii) The appeal that Reagan had among Asians was too far in the past by 2000.

    Surely it was the Tea Party or contemporary changes in the Republican Party (not excluding George W. Bush and his crew) that had put off so many upper middle class old Americans who aldo switched smart Indians off Republicans. In Australia, though it is a logical inference more than personal knowledge, I count on the Chinese and smart Indians to protect us from the high taxing, high spending buyers of votes in the Labor Party. Why would they want to disproportionately support the negative contributors?

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  90. TT says:
    @DFH
    Maybe some day Indians will learn how to use toilets

    Indians has the oldest & highest ancient civilization if you read up their entire history.

    Sure they know how to use toilets better than all of us if you ever visit India, esp the $3~5k/ nite hotel. Its like Taj Maha style, so extravagant even their hotel public toilet.

    In Northern India, its very clean & beautiful, unlike Southern & cities are completely filthy & crimes ridden.

    Walk to any decent place, they have customized toilet bowl with dual usage, sitting or squatting design, great idea for public usage. Hygiene & clean.

    Further down the public toilet, that’s still ok, like any normal toilet in developing country, squatting & urinal wall only. Hygiene & clean.

    Then the challenge come when its fithy free public toilets. There are also semi outdoor toilets right in city next to main road, simply a semi covered wall. The urine flows along the foot path and road.The stench is noticed faraway. You step on urines while walk pass.

    Without amenities, outdoor toilets become natural, everywhere you can stand or squat down to ease, and get a little water to wash the ass. That’s the best toilet, so refreshing without stench. And some dogs & pigs will find delight with their delicacies, nothing go to waste in India.

    So Indians know how to use toilet as much as us. But poverty is the mother of problem. Its their corrupted ruling class conspired with British colonial master & now Anglos-capitalist continue to ruin a great civilization.

    Given a choice, they will live like us, no reason to discriminate Indian for toilet. Although i like to highlight their bad ruling class shameless liars & general stupidity, their fake resumes & crimes, tribalism & poor performance to their irritation, but never their toilet since its not a choice for them.

    China with improved economy, is now revolutionizing their toilet culture, to my dismay, they have gone into all kinds funny extravagant ideas, well surpassing my gov wasteful splashing of subsidizing each public toilet $200K to renovate – some got safari open concepts.

    Chaotic is India oriental beauty, anyone, any culture, any religions, any animals can survive anywhere.

    Incredible India – their slogan for tourism.

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  91. TT says:
    @Anonymous
    Nope.

    The problem originates with Indians themselves.

    It has to do with the caste system and how that skews high caste Indians into virtue signaling SJW.

    Indian society is what America would look like if SJW win. Importing more Indians just accelerates the process.

    Just look at Canada and what the massive influx of Indians have done to that country. Unprecedented immigration and Tredeau.

    Not just US & Canada, even Mauritius, Nepal & Sri Lanka are flooded to change their vote bank.

    I was told Singapore is now literally a Little Delhi, they even stage a biggest riots in Spore 50yrs history with violent Indian drunkards – aka foreign IT talents.

    They attempted Oz, but the backlash save the country. They are now asking China to open up to their IT sector, that will be a good fight consider they have equivalent number to match.

    Weapon of Mass Migration WMM – the latest most potent weapon to invade a country without a fight.

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    Not just US & Canada, even Mauritius, Nepal & Sri Lanka are flooded to change their vote bank.

    I was told Singapore is now literally a Little Delhi, they even stage a biggest riots in Spore 50yrs history with violent Indian drunkards – aka foreign IT talents.]

     

    All of India's neighbors have been zapped by Indian WMM,

    exhibit Sri Lanka.....

    'Over 90% of Tamils and over 90% of Tamil speaking Muslims live in Tamil Nadu, India. Due to proximity and slavery during the Dutch and British periods, close to a million of them were brought into Sri Lanka (Ceylon). Since then they have grown into 5 million with a very high population growth rate and due to illegal migration into the island. Until the end of the war in 2009, some of their extremist elements kept a low profile fearing repercussions. After the war, they are bringing more and more of their relatives from South India, Maldives, Bangladesh and Myanmar while slaying Sri Lanka’s human rights record claiming discrimination against minorities!

    .............................

    After the end of the war, Indian interference worsened and hundreds of thousands of South Indians made their way into the island. They pose a demographic threat to the island nation. India is on a mission to take over the island’s economy. Supported by Indian sponsorship, Hindu expansionism in the island can be seen in every province. They have created an extension of India.
    Malaysia, Myanmar and Singapore have been very careful not to allow it.'

    http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2017/09/25/some-tamils-and-muslims-turning-sri-lanka-into-a-refugee-camp-of-foreign-outcastes/

    LOL !

    This guy oughtta pay a visit to Singapore one of these days,
    he'd be shocked, shocked.....wondering if he has landed in Mumbai ?

    Having overrun all its neighbors, Indian WMM is moving far ashore, its gonna take over the world without firing a shot.

    Indian WMM is the murkkan anglo/zio cabal's stealth army for one world government.

    By the time the victims wise up, he's already been penetrated

    hehehhe

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  92. TT says:
    @Anonymous
    Nope.

    The problem originates with Indians themselves.

    It has to do with the caste system and how that skews high caste Indians into virtue signaling SJW.

    Indian society is what America would look like if SJW win. Importing more Indians just accelerates the process.

    Just look at Canada and what the massive influx of Indians have done to that country. Unprecedented immigration and Tredeau.

    Not just US & Canada, even Mauritius, Nepal & Sri Lanka are flooded to change their vote bank.

    I was told Singapore is now literally a Little Delhi, they even stage a biggest riots in Spore 50yrs history with violent Indian drunkards – aka foreign IT talents.

    They attempted Oz, but the backlash save the country. They are now asking China to open up to their IT sector, that will be a good fight consider they have equivalent number to match.

    Weapon of Mass Migration WMM – the latest most potent weapon to invade a country without a fight. George Soros Open Society is most zealous in this project, flooding refugees everywhere.

    Don’t blame the Indian, its our foolish elected gov been too weak to resist deep states of FUKUSIn demand to implement self destruction immigration policy. They merely come in as invited legal migrants, work in godsend good jobs that taken away from more qualified locals, and enjoy whatever our ancestors build up for us.

    What’s wrong? at least they never come in like the FUKUS in gunboats.

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    They merely come in as invited legal migrants,
     
    Per the WSJ there are now at least 500,000 Indian nationals in the US illegally. Indians now also make up the largest group of illegals crossing the southern border, and are the fastest growing group of illegals in the US.
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  93. Escher says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    WRT Mossman's article Indians and whites have a lot of shared political problems.

    Indians suffer from their own version of "diversity" in the form of Mohammedans (whom are permitted polygamy under Indian law) and privileges for the scheduled castes. Hindu education is explicitly discriminated against in Indian law. Western-funded NGOs daily pour poison into the veins of India. A major fraction of the Indian elite has bought into Western liberalism as well.

    While I agree with Mossman's point that high-IQ immigrants are not an unalloyed good and can even be dangerous (see: the Jews), I think he is overplaying his hand with respect to Indians.

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man--by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.

    It's worth remembering when assessing Indians that they are our very, very distant cousins--especially the higher castes and fairer ones. They are quite similar to us in many ways despite a very different culture, religion, and society.

    I'm not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.

    Why do I get the feeling that “Thorfinnsson” is most likely an Indian, just like “Thomm”, and possibly the same person.

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    Because you don't read my comments regularly perhaps?
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  94. TT says:
    @Mark Presco
    If Indians are so smart, why can’t they provide jobs for their own people? Perhaps these indispensable Indians are needed in India in order to make India a first world country. Shouldn’t that be their primary responsibility?

    Like all other third worlders, the only thing they have figured out to do is dump themselves white men and demand that we provide them a first world quality of life.

    See what happen in US & the West now that lay the good pay manufacturing sector to waste, extreme corrupted ruling class looking after own oligarchy interest.

    US was built up by forefathers & hardworking migrants (besides all the raping of world resources through endless wars), when it collapse, you will understand why US could not provide jobs for its people. Ask the corrupted ruling class & capitalist.

    Pre-colonial India been a ~40% world GDP like China, was diminished into 4% world GDP after British colonial master depart, with millions of Indian sepoy dying to help them invade other countries.

    Thereafter, it continue to invade all neighbours including China(get humiliating defeated) up to now, squandering all essential resources in corruption & military. The ruling caste simply uninterested in helping the poor or built a prosperous strong country. A mirror of current West.

    Unlike India, Chinese know better to expand the cake. By 2020, it will eliminate all poverty while all our so called 1st world are still having 20% poverty.

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    China diminished to the same low share of world GDP despite not being colonized.

    The reason was the industrial revolution in the West. The British destroyed certain Indian industries but also created others.

    I don't see the point in eliminating poverty either. Poor people are losers, why do they deserve money?
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  95. neutral says:

    Don’t worry the Republicans are sure that the Indians are “natural conservatives” (along with the rest of the third world people) and will very soon switch their votes…

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  96. @Thomm
    Jesse Mossman is pretty ignorant. How did a WN wigger get to write an article here?

    From what I understand, Modi is right-wing, and restricts Muslims a lot. That is good.

    Furthermore, H1-Bs have an average salary only 15% lower than local Americans. Not two-thirds lower, as Jesse Mossman ignorantly claims without any source.

    H1-B should be abolished outright, but for other reasons.

    Furthermore, H1-Bs have an average salary only 15% lower than local Americans. Not two-thirds lower, as Jesse Mossman ignorantly claims without any source.

    Actually, he only said one-third lower:

    “These green cards have for years been handed out like popcorn with curry on top to almost any Indian techie who agrees to work for, on average, one-third lower pay than American tech workers.”

    And whether it’s really 33% lower or 15% lower, one way or the other the handwriting is on the wall.

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  97. neutral says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    I wouldn't put Preet Bharara in the same category as those other people.

    There are also right-wing Indian-Americans such as Ajit Pai. They are very common in the bodybuilding community.

    As I said previously I do not approve of Indian immigration. I simply think we can assimilate the Indians we have if we cut off further immigration.

    I simply think we can assimilate the Indian

    Assimilation implies miscegenation, it is better to deport them all (no exceptions allowed), if not that then at least practice segregation. The reason India lost its Aryan invader population is because of assimilation through the ages, becoming the big brown demographic mess it is today.

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    I'm not sure this actually constitutes miscegenation.

    Yes, they're darker than us, but they're caucasoids.

    And from my Scandinavian perspective I think everyone with brown eyes and hair is gross anyway.
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  98. Mike P says:
    @Thomm

    In fact, the U.S. is graduating fewer and fewer professionals in computer science, presumably because of the exorbitant cost and crushing debt.
     
    I think the primary culprit in the US is the subsidization of single motherhood (something Democrats and cuckservatives are both enthusiastic about). A child raised by a single mother may turn out 'okay', but will certainly not go into STEM, as nothing about his upbringing would even make him aware of that possibility.

    If young people are not interested in STEM, then most likely STEM education in middle and high school sucks. I grew up with both parents, but neither of them had any interest in STEM that they could have shared with me. I had, however, the good fortune to meet some excellent science teachers at high school.

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    At least in Canada, the curriculum is extremely skewed towards girls (away from stem). There are too many fat SJW teachers that can't be fired.
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  99. @Thomm

    I’m not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.
     
    My view is similar, in that I think there should only be highly-skilled immigration. No unskilled, and no illegal.

    The cutoff for skill should be Top-15% of the income scale (say, $120,000 income potential).

    This will automatically remove all black, browner Hispanic, and Arab immigration.

    Of the skilled that are let in, about 40% will be white (mostly Russians) and 60% will be Asian (almost all Chinese and Indian).

    The number of immigrants will still be under 1M a year (i.e. less than now).

    Effectively, I want the same policy as Canada has (even though the numbers we get will proportionally be a lot less than Canada, since there just aren't that many skilled immigrants the RoW can send).

    Haha. So basically you want to ship as many Indians (and especially Punjabi) over as possible. Always trust the tribe to put itself first.

    And by the way, Canada is not so merit based under Justin Trudeau, he has really degraded the system to a free for all. Many Arabs and blacks coming in, with 75,000 Nigerians illegally crossing the border this year.

    Maybe on paper this country’s immigration looks good but in practice it’s turned into a total joke when it’s not managed properly.

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  100. Jamesg says: • Website

    I heard this years ago, somewhere in Asia: If you come to a fork in the road and one path is occupied by a python and the other by an Indian, choose the python.

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  101. @Anonymous
    Nope.

    The problem originates with Indians themselves.

    It has to do with the caste system and how that skews high caste Indians into virtue signaling SJW.

    Indian society is what America would look like if SJW win. Importing more Indians just accelerates the process.

    Just look at Canada and what the massive influx of Indians have done to that country. Unprecedented immigration and Tredeau.

    True, though Canada has more “diversity” in terms of the immigrants they bring in, ie. From all over and not just Mexico/ wherever.

    This leads to funny tensions. Just about every immigrant group hates Indians. Chinese, Pakistani.

    Here’s what I’ll say about Indians. I’ve worked with some of them (in tech) and they’re not bad at all. Nice people, conservative people. But they’ve been here for a long time and seem to be the 0.01%. Recently Canada has gotten more desperate for immigrants, and now you see the real Indians coming over.

    Dirty, smelly, tribal, rude. They start off by only importing the 0.01% smartest. Then they start to bring in the rest and you go “Oh, this is why India is a shithole”.

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  102. @Intelligent Dasein
    Alright Anonymous 164, or should I call you Anonymous 204, or M. Thomas, or Thomm?

    We all know that you are an Indian weirdo who street-shits all over any Unz.com post that threatens to expose the abuses your countrymen have perpetrated upon our people. Your shtick isn't convincing anyone, and you are only making more "White Trashionalists" with every word you type.

    Your sick psychology is happily not my concern and you are clearly beyond the reach of any argument, but just know this and meditate upon it in your pathetic intellectual hovel. You are going to lose. Nothing you write can change the reality of Indian backwardness, decrepitude, and moral culpability. These are the facts M. Thommas Anonymous, and it is these facts that will determine outcomes, while you will leave, as the sole monument to your existence, naught but a collection of snarky posts.

    Yes, I’m surprised that the moderators have allowed not two, but four handles from one poster in this thread.

    Read my other comment about how the real Indians act. Once Canada stopped bringing in only the most amazing Indian immigrants you start to see how stupid and nepotistic the average Indian is.

    Tommy can cover it up but when you see it with your own two eyes his desperate attempts make no difference.

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  103. @Thorfinnsson
    I don't deny any of this.

    Still, we're not talking about an inferior race (blacks, hispanics), an alien race (Asians), or a hostile race (Jews).

    I think we can assimilate the Indians very well provided further immigration from India is largely cut off.

    In Canada the second generation Indians are almost always well adjusted and act like the white kids.

    It’s just that Indians don’t seem to have any kids when they come here. Big gender imbalance as well (mostly men). Well I’m okay with that.

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  104. @Mike P
    If young people are not interested in STEM, then most likely STEM education in middle and high school sucks. I grew up with both parents, but neither of them had any interest in STEM that they could have shared with me. I had, however, the good fortune to meet some excellent science teachers at high school.

    At least in Canada, the curriculum is extremely skewed towards girls (away from stem). There are too many fat SJW teachers that can’t be fired.

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  105. There is no “Indian problem”. Basically, Indians don’t belong to European & Europe-derived countries (nor do any other populations). Apart from a few individuals, of course.

    Likewise, whites don’t belong to Sudan or Japan, nor do Japanese to Italy, or Ugandans to Argentina.

    Of course, individuals may be welcomed & prosper, but big numbers make “natives” click and …. we got a problem.

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    However, white people are in large #s in South Africa and that's okay because it benefits Europeans. They also took over Australia from Australian aborigines and Americas from native Americans. So, unless you guys gtfo to your western European boundaries circa 1492, you get no sympathy points.
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  106. anonymous[861] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    I wouldn't put Preet Bharara in the same category as those other people.

    There are also right-wing Indian-Americans such as Ajit Pai. They are very common in the bodybuilding community.

    As I said previously I do not approve of Indian immigration. I simply think we can assimilate the Indians we have if we cut off further immigration.

    There is an easy and simple way for Indians to assimilate and become productive members of White society.

    1) Sharp object
    2) Extended arm
    3) Remember to cut “down the road,” not “across the street.”

    Clench hard and in a short time, they can contribute as well as their rest of their shit!

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    You got #3 wrong.

    It's "down the highway, not across the byway".
    , @Anonymous
    Dharmendra modha: head of IBM's neuromorphic computing. Rajeev suri: chief architect of IBM's watson. Another indian whose name i cannot recall presently who was the chief inventor of the hololens. And Ashwin ram chief architect of amazons alexa project. Is this enough contribution?

    If you all still want to kick them out, i think you all should wring their brains first to extract all the remaing ideas they can offer and then kick them out. And of course more importantly dont forget kicking out the low-level code-coolies too. They are intelligent too but cant write good code for hours together as indians cannot concentrate on doing one thing for hours together. Plus they are even darker and uglier. And even more importantly all of these people could be potential rapists too because they share the same ethnicity and gender and religion of the indian men who rape. Heck some of these people could be lower caste too. So that could make them even more potential rapists?

    How does this sound?

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  107. Mike P says:

    Funny you should bring up Canada – I currently live in Ontario, too, and I have a son who is going through the early stages of what is laughingly known as public school here. I got my own education in (West) Germany, though.

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    Of course, Canada won't be able to provide the Nazi education...
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  108. Ju Ahn says:

    I don’t think Asian Americans are too liberal. However, due to WN and alt-righter threat of Asian genocide in western countries many of us might feel compelled to vote democrats. After all, we’re simply following western principle of putting ourselves and our family over our loyalty to the government.

    In addition, part of the reason why there are so many Asian tech workers in U.S. is because they’re actually that much better than average Europeans in the U.S. Let us take results from a United States of America Mathematical Olympiad (USAMO).

    YEAR _____ USAMO _____ MOSP _____ WINNERS(TOP 12) ____ IMO
    2006 _____ 204/404 _____ 21/54 _________ 8/12 ____________ 3/6
    2007 _____ 226/459 _____ 24/55 _________ 5/12 ____________ 3/6
    2008 _____ 258/465 _____ 29/56 _________ 4/12 ____________ 1/6

    East Asian #/Total #

    https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/790609-do-elite-colleges-discriminate-against-asian-students-p50.html

    According to USAMO results over the years, East Asians comprise about 50% of America’s best and brightest in the subject of mathematics compare to their 2-3% representation over entire population. So, they’re over represented 20 times more than where they should be. This isn’t far from Indian American (16 times) performance with Microsoft hirings. Obviously, you cannot compare this data vs securing jobs in tech companies, but you WNs grossly overestimate white population’s performance in the U.S.

    You WNs claim that Indians and Chinese send their best and brightest to the U.S. So, Why are you surprised when these same people outperform average Americans?

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    You WNs claim that Indians and Chinese send their best and brightest to the U.S. So, Why are you surprised when these same people outperform average Americans?
     
    Of course that is the main reason - we don't import a representative cross section of the entire population of India or China. The comparisons between the resident population and the immigrants are silly.

    There is of course the issue of North American education systems as well - quality (low), cost (high), and preferences, with law, medicine, and business attracting many bright white youngsters who might also succeed in STEM. The first two points need to be fixed; the third one does not - it is called freedom.
    , @SOL
    "However, due to WN and alt-righter threat of Asian genocide in western countries many of us might feel compelled to vote democrats."

    Or you could just leave. Because with that sort of entitled attitude, you will get what's coming.
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  109. Neelesh says:

    Unfortunately every developed nation population is on decline and life expectancy has increased. So if you the math there will be more retirees in future than working adults. Who is going to support them? In Asian cultures it is ingrained in cluture to take care of adults, so even if they do not allow immigration, they will some how survive with hard life condition and aging populations.

    West on the contrary is more individulazed society. The more successful couples are producing fewer kids. The only way to balance the aging population is to allow immigration. No matter what system you choose, few will game the system and few will not be happy but in a long run it is good for developed nation. Most people who migrate integrate over the time. If not the 1st generation then 2nd generation.

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    West on the contrary is more individulazed society. The more successful couples are producing fewer kids. The only way to balance the aging population is to allow immigration. No matter what system you choose, few will game the system and few will not be happy but in a long run it is good for developed nation. Most people who migrate integrate over the time. If not the 1st generation then 2nd generation.
     
    Standard argument from The Economist, a Jew owned magazine that's never met an immigrant it didn't love. This is BS. High supply of cheap labor retards automation. What we need is more automation in the west, not more importation of cheap 3rd world labor, which is just a temporary fix, with permanent consequences. The more people we take in from the 3rd world, the quicker they'll turn us into a 3rd world country. People are not goods, they come with their own cultural baggage. And with the multiculturalists now encouraging each group to hold on to their language and culture, this will only further splinter the US into 200 countries, an ungovernable mess.
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  110. Ju Ahn says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    There is no "Indian problem". Basically, Indians don't belong to European & Europe-derived countries (nor do any other populations). Apart from a few individuals, of course.

    Likewise, whites don't belong to Sudan or Japan, nor do Japanese to Italy, or Ugandans to Argentina.

    Of course, individuals may be welcomed & prosper, but big numbers make "natives" click and .... we got a problem.

    However, white people are in large #s in South Africa and that’s okay because it benefits Europeans. They also took over Australia from Australian aborigines and Americas from native Americans. So, unless you guys gtfo to your western European boundaries circa 1492, you get no sympathy points.

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    Comments like this and your previous one encourage the possibility of "Asian genocide".

    Do you think Chinese should leave Southeast Asia including Singapore? I am guessing no.

    There is no alt-right or WN threat to you. Aside from a very small number of weirdos, nearly all racially aware white people respect northeast Asians and will point out the Asian IQ advantage over whites.

    On the other hand there is a really real threat of leftist parties turning Western countries into South Africa with the aid of non-white voters, including apparently you.

    Whites and blacks entered South Africa at the same time--at the expense of the indigenous capoid population.

    And in any case why does that matter?
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Does the expression "took [take] over from" not give you pause, especially when the former majority population were all pre-agriculture hunter gatherer nomads whose way of subsistence could never have supported even a tenth of current populations and whose numbers were controlled by early death including infanticid?

    At the least perhaps it points to the fact tht we have no appropriate modern civilised terms to describe what in one form or another was inevitable in a Malthusian world.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    Not even close to a rational comparison, but that's to be expected from a glorified drone hovering on the edge of a conservative autism spectrum.

    Europeans went to where there was no advanced civilization and built them. You and yours came to the West like cockroaches to a candy store, AFTER it was built. East Asians do not innovate, they replicate. And that is simultaneously the source of your bloated sense of value and your bitter inferiority complex.

    Millions of Europeans do not risk all they have to flow into India or China (while the reverse is true), because those places are 95% shit, and the other 5% is stolen from the West.
    , @anon

    However, white people are in large #s in South Africa and that’s okay because it benefits Europeans. They also took over Australia from Australian aborigines and Americas from native Americans. So, unless you guys gtfo to your western European boundaries circa 1492, you get no sympathy points.
     
    This is the kind of attitude that makes people want to toss out all the Asian immigrants. Before this globalist takeover of the US, you were at least humble and begged to be let in. Now you've been emboldened, instead of knocking on our doors asking to be let in, you are now banging on our doors demanding to be let in, insisting that it is your "right" to be here, and that you are smarter and better than all those already here who built this country from nothing.
    If Asians are that smart, and Asian culture is that great, why are you here? Just answer that. Why are you here?
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  111. @anonymous

    But then I saw people said hateful things to you.
     
    This from a racist hateful Islamophobe like you? LOL!

    I just want to say you have a beautiful, handsome young son who I hope grows up to become to be a great man.
     
    In the Red Pill Scum's blog, this degenerate talks about how Blacks are not welcome in the family, but Whites, totally ok. Apparently many in his extended family have been "blessed" with white spouses. He seems quite pleased with the idea, and perhaps his boy will be groomed in that manner too... who knows maybe you could be a future in-law.

    And, this from a person whose country of origin is filled with "black" people, especially his Tamil area. Can you imagine the contempt he must have for his "brethren" when he is walking around his hometown? Racist scum like you may understand and find it acceptable, but others with a functioning moral compass will simply find it repulsive.

    Btw, he also mentions Muslims as persona non grata, but no True Monotheist would marry into a pagan polytheist shithole (see my post above) anyway, so we will let that pass. :)

    With a racist degenerate for a father, that beautiful little innocent better be blessed to find another path, soon after he reaches the age of self reason... God willing. Following in his father's footsteps will not make him a "great" man, unless you are one of those who think mass murderers like Modi and his ilk, and those supporters of child rape, torture and murder, are "great" men.


    God bless.
     
    The Almighty One's ways are truly mysterious. Those He as truly condemned appear to be blessed with much glory and wealth, and those He has truly blessed appear to be condemned with ignominy and poverty.

    The only true blessing is Paradise. No pagan polytheist human/animal worshipper and/or the godless, will ever enter that blessed place.

    This from a racist hateful Islamophobe like you? LOL!

    I am in favor of racism, hate, and Islamophobia.

    Racism is objectively correct, and everyone who is not a racist is wrong.

    Hate is a human right.

    Islam is a dark blot on the world which must be destroyed. Mecca should be obliterated with atomic fire, and that will cause all Mohammedans in the world to slump over.

    In the Red Pill Scum’s blog, this degenerate talks about how Blacks are not welcome in the family, but Whites, totally ok. Apparently many in his extended family have been “blessed” with white spouses. He seems quite pleased with the idea, and perhaps his boy will be groomed in that manner too… who knows maybe you could be a future in-law.

    And, this from a person whose country of origin is filled with “black” people, especially his Tamil area. Can you imagine the contempt he must have for his “brethren” when he is walking around his hometown? Racist scum like you may understand and find it acceptable, but others with a functioning moral compass will simply find it repulsive.

    Dark-skinned Indians are not blacks. Most are Dravidian caucasoids, and a few (typically in scheduled castes) are from Indian’s archaic Australoid population.

    Blacks are African negroids, who are truly an inferior race and cursed.

    You keep using “racist” as an epithet, but in fact being a racist is good and correct. The only people who find it repulsive are people cowed by the post-Christian heresy that infects the West.

    You are probably not even white based on caring about this bizarre, trivial Indian issue which means you should even care about the term “racism”.

    The Almighty One’s ways are truly mysterious. Those He as truly condemned appear to be blessed with much glory and wealth, and those He has truly blessed appear to be condemned with ignominy and poverty.

    The only true blessing is Paradise. No pagan polytheist human/animal worshipper and/or the godless, will ever enter that blessed place.

    Get bent loser.

    I bet you have dark skin which is why you got so mad. And likely a Mohammedan as well.

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  112. @Escher
    Why do I get the feeling that “Thorfinnsson” is most likely an Indian, just like “Thomm”, and possibly the same person.

    Because you don’t read my comments regularly perhaps?

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    Because you don’t read my comments regularly perhaps?
     
    LOL! They think everyone is me. In reality, I never have posted under any different handle than this one.

    They think Thorfinnsson is a) me, and b) Indian. I am not Indian and neither is Thorfinnsson.

    These WN wiggers just get dumber and dumber. Eventually, Thorfinnsson will realize, as I did, that despite the attacks against whites by BLM and the SJW media that have to be fought off, .....

    ...........that White Trashionalists are a huge liability to the vitality of everyday whites, simply because of the disrepute they generate.

    The unassailable fact is, White Trashionalists have nothing in common with successful whites. Nothing. They just want to mooch off of us.

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  113. @TT
    See what happen in US & the West now that lay the good pay manufacturing sector to waste, extreme corrupted ruling class looking after own oligarchy interest.

    US was built up by forefathers & hardworking migrants (besides all the raping of world resources through endless wars), when it collapse, you will understand why US could not provide jobs for its people. Ask the corrupted ruling class & capitalist.

    Pre-colonial India been a ~40% world GDP like China, was diminished into 4% world GDP after British colonial master depart, with millions of Indian sepoy dying to help them invade other countries.

    Thereafter, it continue to invade all neighbours including China(get humiliating defeated) up to now, squandering all essential resources in corruption & military. The ruling caste simply uninterested in helping the poor or built a prosperous strong country. A mirror of current West.

    Unlike India, Chinese know better to expand the cake. By 2020, it will eliminate all poverty while all our so called 1st world are still having 20% poverty.

    China diminished to the same low share of world GDP despite not being colonized.

    The reason was the industrial revolution in the West. The British destroyed certain Indian industries but also created others.

    I don’t see the point in eliminating poverty either. Poor people are losers, why do they deserve money?

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  114. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark Presco
    If Indians are so smart, why can’t they provide jobs for their own people? Perhaps these indispensable Indians are needed in India in order to make India a first world country. Shouldn’t that be their primary responsibility?

    Like all other third worlders, the only thing they have figured out to do is dump themselves white men and demand that we provide them a first world quality of life.

    You should be ashamed of yourself for engaging in ignorant bluster.

    You are even ignorant of the more or less accurate published records of average Indian IQ which is low despite the fact that millions in the upper castes have IQs significantly above the white American average. So “if Indians are so smart” is just fatuous.

    Far from Indian immigrants to the US dumping themselves on white America and demanding that “we” [*you* FFS!] provide “them a first world quality of life” they are probably amongst Mitt Romney’s 47 per cent who, as taxpayers, actually pay their way. Are you? Could you be with your revealed cognitive limitations?

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    There is nothing ignorant about what I said. It is a fact that India is a third world country. The reason is that Indian men do not provide their people with the jobs necessary to make India a first world country. Your babbling doesn’t change that fact. Explain why the high IQ Indians aren’t creating businesses that take advantage of the vast cheap labor pool available to them.

    For all practical purposes, only white men provide jobs for people in this country. Not white women, not blacks and not Hispanics. Please don’t make me spell it out for you. White men provide our people with the highest quality of life on the planet.

    This is why Indians come here, to get the first world jobs they obviously can’t get in India. Microsoft has been mentioned. Bill Gates, a white man, created these jobs that Indians are clamoring for. Your ignorance of where these jobs come from is astounding. Apparently you believe that the Cargo Gods dropped them from the sky. Too bad they missed India.

    As for myself, I accepted a contract from a design center in Singapore. The 3 Indian and 4 Chinese engineers got stumped designing a custom microprocessor. I got the project back on track. The Indians, were practically useless.

    http://myplace.frontier.com/~mpresco/index.htm

    Just to repeat myself, these POS Indians victimize the world by failing to make their country into a first world country, failing to become equal partners of the “International Community” available to assist the truly needy.
    , @Anon
    Just checked the average Indian IQ. According to IQ-research-info it’s 82.

    82 is considered retarded.

    Stop bragging Thomm
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  115. @neutral

    I simply think we can assimilate the Indian
     
    Assimilation implies miscegenation, it is better to deport them all (no exceptions allowed), if not that then at least practice segregation. The reason India lost its Aryan invader population is because of assimilation through the ages, becoming the big brown demographic mess it is today.

    I’m not sure this actually constitutes miscegenation.

    Yes, they’re darker than us, but they’re caucasoids.

    And from my Scandinavian perspective I think everyone with brown eyes and hair is gross anyway.

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  116. @anonymous
    There is an easy and simple way for Indians to assimilate and become productive members of White society.

    1) Sharp object
    2) Extended arm
    3) Remember to cut "down the road," not "across the street."

    Clench hard and in a short time, they can contribute as well as their rest of their shit!

    You got #3 wrong.

    It’s “down the highway, not across the byway”.

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  117. @Ju Ahn
    However, white people are in large #s in South Africa and that's okay because it benefits Europeans. They also took over Australia from Australian aborigines and Americas from native Americans. So, unless you guys gtfo to your western European boundaries circa 1492, you get no sympathy points.

    Comments like this and your previous one encourage the possibility of “Asian genocide”.

    Do you think Chinese should leave Southeast Asia including Singapore? I am guessing no.

    There is no alt-right or WN threat to you. Aside from a very small number of weirdos, nearly all racially aware white people respect northeast Asians and will point out the Asian IQ advantage over whites.

    On the other hand there is a really real threat of leftist parties turning Western countries into South Africa with the aid of non-white voters, including apparently you.

    Whites and blacks entered South Africa at the same time–at the expense of the indigenous capoid population.

    And in any case why does that matter?

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  118. Mike P says:
    @Ju Ahn
    I don't think Asian Americans are too liberal. However, due to WN and alt-righter threat of Asian genocide in western countries many of us might feel compelled to vote democrats. After all, we're simply following western principle of putting ourselves and our family over our loyalty to the government.

    In addition, part of the reason why there are so many Asian tech workers in U.S. is because they're actually that much better than average Europeans in the U.S. Let us take results from a United States of America Mathematical Olympiad (USAMO).

    YEAR _____ USAMO _____ MOSP _____ WINNERS(TOP 12) ____ IMO
    2006 _____ 204/404 _____ 21/54 _________ 8/12 ____________ 3/6
    2007 _____ 226/459 _____ 24/55 _________ 5/12 ____________ 3/6
    2008 _____ 258/465 _____ 29/56 _________ 4/12 ____________ 1/6
     
    East Asian #/Total #

    https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/790609-do-elite-colleges-discriminate-against-asian-students-p50.html

    According to USAMO results over the years, East Asians comprise about 50% of America's best and brightest in the subject of mathematics compare to their 2-3% representation over entire population. So, they're over represented 20 times more than where they should be. This isn't far from Indian American (16 times) performance with Microsoft hirings. Obviously, you cannot compare this data vs securing jobs in tech companies, but you WNs grossly overestimate white population's performance in the U.S.

    You WNs claim that Indians and Chinese send their best and brightest to the U.S. So, Why are you surprised when these same people outperform average Americans?

    You WNs claim that Indians and Chinese send their best and brightest to the U.S. So, Why are you surprised when these same people outperform average Americans?

    Of course that is the main reason – we don’t import a representative cross section of the entire population of India or China. The comparisons between the resident population and the immigrants are silly.

    There is of course the issue of North American education systems as well – quality (low), cost (high), and preferences, with law, medicine, and business attracting many bright white youngsters who might also succeed in STEM. The first two points need to be fixed; the third one does not – it is called freedom.

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  119. @anonymous

    From what I understand, Modi is right-wing, and restricts Muslims a lot. That is good.

     

    Modi's brand of right-wing degeneracy;

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/13/asia/india-child-rape-jammu-intl/index.html

    The salient points;
    1. 8yr old Muslim girl, raped, tortured, murdered.
    2. By hindu nationalist scum (6 of them, one of them over 60yrs old)
    3. All within their bloody temple, for 5 days.
    4. After the deed, the mofers from the rapist community in the area go on marches in support of the rapists, shouting praises of their flag, and of their "lord" ram.
    5. Two BJP Modi-asslicking leaders are among the marchers, inciting the mob.
    6. All hindu lawyers in the area move to quash the creation of the chargesheet against the rapists.
    7. Those same scum threaten a woman lawyer who has come forward to prosecute the rapists, with rape and death threats.

    So, does this get your, "that is good," stamp of approval?

    Does the killer in Las Vegas represent the Trump Administration or the gun owners the American values at large?

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    Was that supposed to be sarcasm?

    If not, did you not read my points that BJP scum egged on the marchers. They most definitely represent Modi's style of degeneracy. He did not even open his mouth for days, and only did perfunctorily due to pressure later. Think.

    the gun owners the American values at large
     
    What a stupid analogy to make a point. Given the death and destruction which the most potent evil on earth perpetuates around the world, the psychopathic gun owners in America definitely represent each other.
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  120. @Ju Ahn
    However, white people are in large #s in South Africa and that's okay because it benefits Europeans. They also took over Australia from Australian aborigines and Americas from native Americans. So, unless you guys gtfo to your western European boundaries circa 1492, you get no sympathy points.

    Does the expression “took [take] over from” not give you pause, especially when the former majority population were all pre-agriculture hunter gatherer nomads whose way of subsistence could never have supported even a tenth of current populations and whose numbers were controlled by early death including infanticid?

    At the least perhaps it points to the fact tht we have no appropriate modern civilised terms to describe what in one form or another was inevitable in a Malthusian world.

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  121. @DFH
    Maybe some day Indians will learn how to use toilets

    And maybe, someday, Americans will learn that assholes are not for fornication!

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  122. @rec1man
    https://pix.sfly.com/ZCipwX

    my Tamil Brahmin son, with white child in Silicon valley

    https://pix.sfly.com/UY1MKQ

    My Tamil Brahmin son,

    http://www.santabanta.com/images/sandeepa-dhar/50848/

    Brahmin bollywood actress

    The first image shows a child of African and European ancestry, the second child looks like North Indian and the babe looks Persian… none of them look pure, unadulterated whites.

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  123. gwynedd1 says:

    Given that the US is a democracy and that citizenship is based upon the soil , is not not reasonable to assume some resistance to immigration? Every new citizen dilutes the political power of the resident.

    Want people to accept immigrants? I would suggest reducing the power of especially the Federal government. I don’t want to be ruled by Indians in California anymore than the rule of Spanish authoritarian culture.

    Another fix is to have the consequences of immigration enjoyed by those that sponsor the immigrant and the immigrants themselves. We seem to have a system where the befits flow into private coffers and the unwanted side effects are socialized.

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  124. Thomm says:
    @Edward
    In the United Kingdom, the highest-income Indians tend to significantly be of Khatri origin (the Malhotras, Mehras, Kapoors, Chopras, Khannas, and so on). According to the new paper by Reich at al. on Indian ancestry, the Khatris (who are from North-West India) have the third-highest degree of Steppe ancestry in the whole of India, except for the Kalash and Pathan groups in northern Pakistan.

    I agree, though, that there is no correlation between Steppe ancestry and success.

    Source: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/31/292581

    True, but a lot of the tech Indians in the US who have very high incomes tend to be tubby, short, dark South Indians. Probably Tamils from what I am told.

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  125. Honestly, I think most of the issues will be prevented if the Japanese immigration clause of: “Professional cannot be hired unless it is demonstrated that he is working at the same or higher rate as a local worker” is applied. In such a case, you’ll only hire absolutely necessary experts.

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  126. Anyone who thinks that the Indians (from India in Asia, not the native ones) are “socialist” or “leftist” is smoking some serious stuff. Socialists my foot, the Indians are opportunists par excellence, in it solely for themselves and the money. They support the DNC because the DNC permits more and more of their tribe to immigrate to the US.

    Someone would have to be deluded to believe that the likes of Microsoft employ more and more Indians because of some abstract principles. The Indians are employed because they are prepared to slog away at half wages with no attitude problem. Being clannish, aloof from western norms, and from an insular, ancient civilization (with its goods, bads, and serious uglies), once a company has enough of these in senior management, the company gets filled up with more and more of their own.

    As citizens, these guys are fairly law-abiding and no-trouble, but they are just way, way too different. They come from a culture and religion that sanctifies selfishness, lack of community involvement, indifference to fellow citizens, and barbaric practices of child rape, child marriage, and bitter civil feuding. If you read the Indian papers or travel there you will find that people of one community setting fire to people of other communities, burning down each others’ temples, raping nuns and children, and other very unsavoury happenings are commonplace events there. If you bring up any of this in conversation with educated Indians, they will tell you in all earnestness that India is the world’s greatest country and Hinduism the most advanced and most tolerant religion.

    With these guys it is all about money, money, and more money. I found out that they actually have a Goddess of wealth (one of their heavy weight Gods out of the numerous that they worship) and the biggest temples are built to worship this Goddess. They also have a God of total destruction, and he is regarded as their senior-most God. No wonder India gets on very well with Neocons, Zionists, and assorted other crazies and eccentrics.

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  127. @anonymous

    Hinduism is far more...
     
    More than anything, Hinduism is batshit craziness.

    1. Worshipping devils.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTDJ-gkD2HC/?hl=en

    2. Rapist deities (Vishnu's rape of Tulsi). Mind you, I am simply stating the nonsense in your scripture.
    3. Can't explain anything cogently, no problem... metaphorical spin to the rescue... "you see, it is not meant to be taken literally, but..." Everyone is then expected to marvel at the profundity of all that.
    4. Worship of Shiva's Phallus (lingum) and his whoever's Vagina (yoni).
    5. Claiming everything under the sun, more or less, was discovered\invented by the hindoo. Latest... Internet existed during the mythical Mahabharata war, where apparently, nuclear weapons rained down.

    Seriously, you beeping idiots.

    It is hilarious as you degenerates try and find common cause with white supremacist degenerates. You will always remain n*s to them.

    The Jewish fantasy is the basis for both the Holy Bible and the Koran… before that the gods of the European mythologies were no different from Hindu mythological beings. Before casting stones, ask if a man can part the sea, walk on water or fly on a donkey?

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  128. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    There is an easy and simple way for Indians to assimilate and become productive members of White society.

    1) Sharp object
    2) Extended arm
    3) Remember to cut "down the road," not "across the street."

    Clench hard and in a short time, they can contribute as well as their rest of their shit!

    Dharmendra modha: head of IBM’s neuromorphic computing. Rajeev suri: chief architect of IBM’s watson. Another indian whose name i cannot recall presently who was the chief inventor of the hololens. And Ashwin ram chief architect of amazons alexa project. Is this enough contribution?

    If you all still want to kick them out, i think you all should wring their brains first to extract all the remaing ideas they can offer and then kick them out. And of course more importantly dont forget kicking out the low-level code-coolies too. They are intelligent too but cant write good code for hours together as indians cannot concentrate on doing one thing for hours together. Plus they are even darker and uglier. And even more importantly all of these people could be potential rapists too because they share the same ethnicity and gender and religion of the indian men who rape. Heck some of these people could be lower caste too. So that could make them even more potential rapists?

    How does this sound?

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  129. @anonymous

    Hinduism is far more...
     
    More than anything, Hinduism is batshit craziness.

    1. Worshipping devils.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTDJ-gkD2HC/?hl=en

    2. Rapist deities (Vishnu's rape of Tulsi). Mind you, I am simply stating the nonsense in your scripture.
    3. Can't explain anything cogently, no problem... metaphorical spin to the rescue... "you see, it is not meant to be taken literally, but..." Everyone is then expected to marvel at the profundity of all that.
    4. Worship of Shiva's Phallus (lingum) and his whoever's Vagina (yoni).
    5. Claiming everything under the sun, more or less, was discovered\invented by the hindoo. Latest... Internet existed during the mythical Mahabharata war, where apparently, nuclear weapons rained down.

    Seriously, you beeping idiots.

    It is hilarious as you degenerates try and find common cause with white supremacist degenerates. You will always remain n*s to them.

    I didn’t realize that you were a Paki (even an Arab, a Turk or a Persian would not stoop that low) until the last para:

    “It is hilarious as you degenerates try and find common cause with white supremacist degenerates. You will always remain n*s to them.”

    They may be niggers to the whites but one thing is certain that you will always be the Samd Nigger’s nigger!

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  130. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    Wait why stop at indian men in the west? Every man in india is a potential rapist too. We just dont know it yet. After you all are done kicking them them back to india, kill all of us. The deep state and some chinese are already doing it. Why should you all miss out on the fun? Today we are raping our women, tomorrow we could rape yours or you. So kill us all before this happens.

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    The Muslim hordes tried for a thousand years, the British attempted for nearly three hundred years but the Hindu survives... do you think the pansy cracker has balls to do it?
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  131. @KenH

    So only 16% are Indian and 84% are not Indian, even after 4 years of Satya Nadella at the helm.
     
    You're brilliant (sarc). But as Indians only represent .9 to 1% of the general population they are overrepresented by a factor of 16. India would not accept white Europeans comprising 16% of their software and tech jobs at a major company and neither should we. Indians should only be considered when whites with the requisite education and job skills reach full employment.

    And before you start rambling and stuttering about white nationalists being socialists India, Japan, China and every other non-white nation would only employ whites over their own people if their countrymen didn't possess the requisite job skills for a particular industry. However, whites would be expected to educate and train their natives to eventually displace all foreigners whether white or other. Their meritocracies only extend to the racial ingroup.

    But those nations don't have racial masochists and sellouts and greedy pricks in the business and government sector and don't allow mass immigration from white nations or of people who are racially and culturally dissimilar to them so they don't have to bother with such concerns.

    Like some bitch said… da crackers was there, so da niggers is here!

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  132. @anon
    The 7% per country limit for green cards must *not* be scrapped. Without it the green card system will be completely inundated by Indians and Chinese. The EB5 investor visa has a similar per country limit, without it the Chinese will take all the visas. These country quotas are ingenious and must be kept. What we need is an overall reduction for all countries -- reduce the 1 million new green cards a year to 250,000, but keep the per country limit at 7%. Better yet, no new green cards at all for the next 20 years. The EB5 should just be cancelled out right.

    The Seattle Times article mentioned that those who have been approved for a green card can have their H1b visa extended every 3 years until they receive their green card, which could be up to a couple of decades due to the per country limit. Trump at one point threatened to cancel the indefinite extensions, why doesn't he just do it?! Why are we allowing people indefinite extensions? Send them all packing. Microsoft can let these people work out of their offices in India.

    Most annoying of all, why does Microsoft need to bring all these people in from India? With all the telcom technology, they can easily have these people work in India. It'll even save them a bundle since they can pay them a lot less. Average salary for a Microsoft employee in Redmond is $180,000. Average salary for a tech worker in Bangalore is $29,000. Wouldn't that be a better way to help develop a 3rd world country, by bringing the jobs there? Why is Microsoft bringing them all here?

    Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Fuckerberg and all the tech plantation owners don't just want compliant 3rd world labor, they want to wreck the country doing it. Beyond just destroying our social cohesion, these tech workers put enormous strain on our environment. Everywhere you turn in the Seattle area beautiful wooded areas are being clear cut to build densely packed new developments so more people from India and China can all move here and live on top of us. Traffic in the Seattle area has gone from bad to near impossible in the last 10 years. But Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos don't care, they are nicely ensconced in their pristine estate homes in Medina on Lake Washington.

    Do you read Aesop much? Just sour grapes!

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  133. @Anon
    Given the way most yellows and Hindus feel politically, it makes no sense for whites to give a crap about them.

    Do the whites give crap about them?

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  134. @anon

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man–by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.
     
    You are hallucinating. Indian men are just as liberal as Indian women. Just look at Sundra Pichai of Google, the Indian comedians Aziz Ansari, Hasan Minhaj, Kumail Nanjani, Calexit leaders Shankar Singam, US attorney Preet Bharara under Obama, the list goes on, all are big time leftists. Indians are loquacious and arrogant, very much like the Jews with their chutzpah. Tech and the H1b visa offer them a way in. Once they get in the next generation tend to go into banking, law, medicine or civil service, just like the Jews. In medicine many are caught up in medicare fraud. Indians are entering civil service in drove.

    You need to wake up in a hurry. Indians are the new Jews.

    Calling Indians “the new Jews” is an insult to the Jews, though they do have one thing in common: neither of them needed to borrow someone’s creed!

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  135. AndrewR says:
    @M. Thomas
    This essay is completely detached from reality. As someone who has actually worked at Microsoft as a software engineer, I can assure you that there was indeed a 'colonization' of Microsoft - by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian.

    Why are most of them Indian? Because India provides free higher education for students who qualify. This includes degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. This directly results in India creating many more qualified software engineers than the U.S. In fact, the U.S. is graduating fewer and fewer professionals in computer science, presumably because of the exorbitant cost and crushing debt.

    If the U.S. wants to 'colonize' Microsoft with white Americans, then I suggest America follow India's example and provide high quality, free education. It's really that simple.

    Oh, and yes these Indians are socialists because their high paying jobs at Microsoft (and Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) are the direct result of the quality education they received in a socialist system. Rather than criticizing in an obviously racist way, perhaps we should learn something.

    Best,
    M. Thomas

    “Free”

    It’s hard to take you seriously when you call tax-subsidized education “free.” It may be a good idea but it’s certainly not free.

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  136. Mark Presco says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    You should be ashamed of yourself for engaging in ignorant bluster.

    You are even ignorant of the more or less accurate published records of average Indian IQ which is low despite the fact that millions in the upper castes have IQs significantly above the white American average. So "if Indians are so smart" is just fatuous.

    Far from Indian immigrants to the US dumping themselves on white America and demanding that "we" [*you* FFS!] provide "them a first world quality of life" they are probably amongst Mitt Romney's 47 per cent who, as taxpayers, actually pay their way. Are you? Could you be with your revealed cognitive limitations?

    There is nothing ignorant about what I said. It is a fact that India is a third world country. The reason is that Indian men do not provide their people with the jobs necessary to make India a first world country. Your babbling doesn’t change that fact. Explain why the high IQ Indians aren’t creating businesses that take advantage of the vast cheap labor pool available to them.

    For all practical purposes, only white men provide jobs for people in this country. Not white women, not blacks and not Hispanics. Please don’t make me spell it out for you. White men provide our people with the highest quality of life on the planet.

    This is why Indians come here, to get the first world jobs they obviously can’t get in India. Microsoft has been mentioned. Bill Gates, a white man, created these jobs that Indians are clamoring for. Your ignorance of where these jobs come from is astounding. Apparently you believe that the Cargo Gods dropped them from the sky. Too bad they missed India.

    As for myself, I accepted a contract from a design center in Singapore. The 3 Indian and 4 Chinese engineers got stumped designing a custom microprocessor. I got the project back on track. The Indians, were practically useless.

    http://myplace.frontier.com/~mpresco/index.htm

    Just to repeat myself, these POS Indians victimize the world by failing to make their country into a first world country, failing to become equal partners of the “International Community” available to assist the truly needy.

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    So you have some narrow technical specialty which apparently can be acquired without even Logic 101 or any grasp of statistics or probability. That's what enables you to form views about a country and people with more variety than the whole of Europe from acquaintance with three Indian engineers! And that's when you were going to Singapore to maintain your First World way of life. Why, btw, are so many Americans working outside America rather than staying at home to relieve your country's appalling problems like homelessness, bankruptcy by medical bill and decaying infrastructure?
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  137. @Ju Ahn
    However, white people are in large #s in South Africa and that's okay because it benefits Europeans. They also took over Australia from Australian aborigines and Americas from native Americans. So, unless you guys gtfo to your western European boundaries circa 1492, you get no sympathy points.

    Not even close to a rational comparison, but that’s to be expected from a glorified drone hovering on the edge of a conservative autism spectrum.

    Europeans went to where there was no advanced civilization and built them. You and yours came to the West like cockroaches to a candy store, AFTER it was built. East Asians do not innovate, they replicate. And that is simultaneously the source of your bloated sense of value and your bitter inferiority complex.

    Millions of Europeans do not risk all they have to flow into India or China (while the reverse is true), because those places are 95% shit, and the other 5% is stolen from the West.

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    You WNs are the ones who have inferiority complex as you're taking credits for accomplishments for other people of your race. Plus, you all are all scared to death and refuse to compete with foreign immigrants head to head using skills. Obviously many intelligent and educated white men do not have trouble retaining jobs despite the influx of immigrants.
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  138. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @M. Thomas
    This essay is completely detached from reality. As someone who has actually worked at Microsoft as a software engineer, I can assure you that there was indeed a 'colonization' of Microsoft - by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian.

    Why are most of them Indian? Because India provides free higher education for students who qualify. This includes degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. This directly results in India creating many more qualified software engineers than the U.S. In fact, the U.S. is graduating fewer and fewer professionals in computer science, presumably because of the exorbitant cost and crushing debt.

    If the U.S. wants to 'colonize' Microsoft with white Americans, then I suggest America follow India's example and provide high quality, free education. It's really that simple.

    Oh, and yes these Indians are socialists because their high paying jobs at Microsoft (and Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) are the direct result of the quality education they received in a socialist system. Rather than criticizing in an obviously racist way, perhaps we should learn something.

    Best,
    M. Thomas

    Another Microsoft HR libtard drinking the Magic Indian Kool-Aid, or maybe you’re just another Indian in disguise. You need to open your eyes and see the reality of education in India. “Quality” it is not. It’s a total farce. Most teachers do not even show up to teach. Per the Economist people who sit for the Indian college entrance exams to supposed top colleges like IIT simply write their phone number on the test so the examiner can call and negotiate a price based on what grade they want. Cheating is rampant and completely in-your-face. Check this out:

    https://www.economist.com/news/asia/21647337-teaching-standards-go-out-window-crib-sheets-come-wall-shame

    The WSJ reported that out of 100 people who apply for a job in a call center in India, only 1 is employable.

    By his own admission, the CEO of Indian outsourcer Infosys said that less than 25% of Indian “engineering college” grads are employable, and even then, all have to be put through an intensive 6 months training before they can be brought to the US.

    Microsoft is the largest employer of Indian techies because Microsoft is no longer the hot tech firm that new graduates want to work for. Top American graduates all want to work for Amazon, Google, Facebook, Apple, uber, Netflix, SpaceX and other hot sexy new startups. Microsoft is seen as an old bureaucratic dinosaur making boring software. Who wants to work on a toolbar button for 5 years? The only people who want to work for them anymore are foreign graduates who want the H1b visa and green card, and scammers in India who get in through outsourcing firms that provide temp staff to Microsoft, which are all over the Seattle area. All want the H1b and eventually, green card. That’s why there are now so many Indians in Western WA. They’re clannish and liberal, love to hire and promote their own, just like the Jews.

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  139. @Mike P
    Funny you should bring up Canada - I currently live in Ontario, too, and I have a son who is going through the early stages of what is laughingly known as public school here. I got my own education in (West) Germany, though.

    Of course, Canada won’t be able to provide the Nazi education…

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    What is "the Nazi education"?

    Or don't you even know?

    www.codoh.com
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  140. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark Presco
    There is nothing ignorant about what I said. It is a fact that India is a third world country. The reason is that Indian men do not provide their people with the jobs necessary to make India a first world country. Your babbling doesn’t change that fact. Explain why the high IQ Indians aren’t creating businesses that take advantage of the vast cheap labor pool available to them.

    For all practical purposes, only white men provide jobs for people in this country. Not white women, not blacks and not Hispanics. Please don’t make me spell it out for you. White men provide our people with the highest quality of life on the planet.

    This is why Indians come here, to get the first world jobs they obviously can’t get in India. Microsoft has been mentioned. Bill Gates, a white man, created these jobs that Indians are clamoring for. Your ignorance of where these jobs come from is astounding. Apparently you believe that the Cargo Gods dropped them from the sky. Too bad they missed India.

    As for myself, I accepted a contract from a design center in Singapore. The 3 Indian and 4 Chinese engineers got stumped designing a custom microprocessor. I got the project back on track. The Indians, were practically useless.

    http://myplace.frontier.com/~mpresco/index.htm

    Just to repeat myself, these POS Indians victimize the world by failing to make their country into a first world country, failing to become equal partners of the “International Community” available to assist the truly needy.

    So you have some narrow technical specialty which apparently can be acquired without even Logic 101 or any grasp of statistics or probability. That’s what enables you to form views about a country and people with more variety than the whole of Europe from acquaintance with three Indian engineers! And that’s when you were going to Singapore to maintain your First World way of life. Why, btw, are so many Americans working outside America rather than staying at home to relieve your country’s appalling problems like homelessness, bankruptcy by medical bill and decaying infrastructure?

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    Homelessness in America is caused by lack of housing.

    Americans are homeless because all the low cost government housing goes to illegal Hispanic immigrants and elderly Chinese who came over to glom into our pension system.

    You can’t add millions of legal and illegal immigrants every year to existing housing without some people becoming homeless. And it’s the natives who have become homeless.
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  141. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Hinduism is far more...
     
    More than anything, Hinduism is batshit craziness.

    1. Worshipping devils.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTDJ-gkD2HC/?hl=en

    2. Rapist deities (Vishnu's rape of Tulsi). Mind you, I am simply stating the nonsense in your scripture.
    3. Can't explain anything cogently, no problem... metaphorical spin to the rescue... "you see, it is not meant to be taken literally, but..." Everyone is then expected to marvel at the profundity of all that.
    4. Worship of Shiva's Phallus (lingum) and his whoever's Vagina (yoni).
    5. Claiming everything under the sun, more or less, was discovered\invented by the hindoo. Latest... Internet existed during the mythical Mahabharata war, where apparently, nuclear weapons rained down.

    Seriously, you beeping idiots.

    It is hilarious as you degenerates try and find common cause with white supremacist degenerates. You will always remain n*s to them.

    More than anything, Hinduism is batshit craziness.

    Batshit crazy is pretty much the only word to describe a religion that worships over 33 million gods. Stupid libtards in America are the only ones putting these people on a pedastal and can’t import enough of them. All over Asia, Indians are seen as criminals and chest thumping bullshit artists of the east. Never trust an Indian like you should never trust a Jew.

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    My distant ancestors were northwest Indian You are right about bothe Indians and jews
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  142. After reading this article, I changed my mind. It is a very good article.

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  143. @Anonymous
    Wait why stop at indian men in the west? Every man in india is a potential rapist too. We just dont know it yet. After you all are done kicking them them back to india, kill all of us. The deep state and some chinese are already doing it. Why should you all miss out on the fun? Today we are raping our women, tomorrow we could rape yours or you. So kill us all before this happens.

    The Muslim hordes tried for a thousand years, the British attempted for nearly three hundred years but the Hindu survives… do you think the pansy cracker has balls to do it?

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  144. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @An Indian
    What I have never seen reported: Universities fill empty seats in Computer Science classes with foreign students (almost entirely Indians), when Americans do not fill these seats. Should Americans (any race) choose to register for these courses, they have to pay tuition. Universities keep these courses open by filling them with foreign students who are given full scholarships. I have observed this at two universities. At these universities, you will often see these students performing on-campus jobs. This further assists them to meet their expenses. American tax-payers are financing their own colonization and, by extension, victimization. The American education system has priced education beyond the reach of its tax-payers but offer the same education, tuition-free, to foreign students.

    The Jews who run our universities love the Magic Indian only second to the Magic Negro. They are a little smarter, less violent and infinitely more servile to their Jew masters. Jews would love to replace the entire west with servile Indians, the negroes of the East.

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  145. Wade says:
    @KenH

    But most companies I worked with me told me they CANNOT find enough white workers.
     
    Somehow I doubt companies admitted to you that they desperately want to hire more white employees but that, gosh darn it, there just isn't enough of them. These days corporations are going out of their way and breaking their own policies and federal law to hire non-whites over whites to meet diversity targets which exceed what the law requires. There's still plenty of qualified whites around.

    White women have delayed child bearing until their thirties so they could enter the workforce to "run with the wolves" and compete with men thanks largely to Jewish feminism which teaches women to seek careers and independence rather than marriage and family. And I remember in the late 90's and into the early 21 century white women who did bear several white children were often mocked as "white trash" by the (((media))) especially if they resided in smaller locales.

    Please cite the source where universities and corporations are making a racial appeal to white women to bear children much earlier so that they can grow up and displace the H1B's who corporations love because they do work for much less than the natives.

    Please cite the source where universities and corporations are making a racial appeal to white women to bear children much earlier so that they can grow up and displace the H1B’s who corporations love

    This is spot on. There are a lot of reasons for these things happening. Some of them due to ethnic animus (Jew vs Gentile) and some due to group think on the part of corporations. It’s as if for the past 2 decades or more US companies decided that they would make more money if they pay people less. However, this assumption became institutionalized and it is now fully on autopilot in corporate America.

    Off topic, but H1B is not the only crap we’re having to swallow as a result of this development. Take Hollywood for example. Steve Sailer pointed out that after the show Friends was cancelled producers started creating shows where they didn’t have to pay actors so much to act. “Survivor” was born along with a multitude of reality TV shows where common people get a chance to be on a hit TV show with little to nothing of a salary.

    A few years ago The Walking Dead was a huge hit but now that the actors are asking to actually get paid well to be on the show, AMC’s approach to handling the situation is to kill off long time favorite characters like Carl Grimes (rumor has it that several other popular characters will be leaving because AMC refusing to give them the raises they’ve asked for) and to replace them with more “diverse” characters that no one gives a crap about. They are going to bleed The Walking Dead IP dry for a quick buck and then leave it in tatters.

    Same thing with Star Wars. Recently Disney/Lucasfilm has been lambasted for copyright infringement: instead of hiring good artists to create original artwork for their posters on the new movie “Solo: A Star Wars Story” they copied an almost identical design from a French graphic designer who is now suing Disney.

    US companies are getting lazy and they are destroying their long term legacy (not to mention the US’s legacy) just to save a few bucks on employees.

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  146. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:

    India’s biggest export is its people, mostly unwanted and subpar, but they insist on foisting them on the west anyway, all the while selling themselves as “best and brightest” and “highly skilled”. You wonder why with so many best and brightest and highly skilled, India remains the world’s foremost shithole country, the sewer pit of humanity, even lower per capita GDP than SubSaharan Africa.

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  147. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    It is because most of the indians who come to the west are higher caste, educated people. While the one who do rapes in india are lower caste and most of them from the lowest castes, low educated people.

    It is because most of the indians who come to the west are higher caste, educated people. While the one who do rapes in india are lower caste and most of them from the lowest castes, low educated people.

    Only Indian would shit all over his own people like this.

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  148. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    There are plenty of right-wing Indian men.

    Look for Indian men with muscles, as bodybuilding has made inroads in the Indian community.

    There are plenty of right-wing Indian men.

    Look for Indian men with muscles, as bodybuilding has made inroads in the Indian community.

    Look at comment #54, 77% of Indians voted for Clinton. What % of Indian men are into bodybuilding? Most are totally out of shape weasels with pot bellies. To base your entire claim on a tiny negligible minority is just ridiculous.

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    Easily answer: Thorfinnsson is another "white" like the Indians are "Westerners." Notice how he promotes miscergenation with them and defends one of them shit-cockroach people as having "beautiful family." And additionally, has an "Indian intern."

    He's just another one of those shit people, pretending to be white like they usually do.
    , @Thorfinnsson
    In another one of my comments I mentioned that only 32% of Indian-"Americans" voted for Trump.

    Read the entire thread before commenting.
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  149. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @TT
    Not just US & Canada, even Mauritius, Nepal & Sri Lanka are flooded to change their vote bank.

    I was told Singapore is now literally a Little Delhi, they even stage a biggest riots in Spore 50yrs history with violent Indian drunkards - aka foreign IT talents.

    They attempted Oz, but the backlash save the country. They are now asking China to open up to their IT sector, that will be a good fight consider they have equivalent number to match.

    Weapon of Mass Migration WMM - the latest most potent weapon to invade a country without a fight. George Soros Open Society is most zealous in this project, flooding refugees everywhere.

    Don't blame the Indian, its our foolish elected gov been too weak to resist deep states of FUKUSIn demand to implement self destruction immigration policy. They merely come in as invited legal migrants, work in godsend good jobs that taken away from more qualified locals, and enjoy whatever our ancestors build up for us.

    What's wrong? at least they never come in like the FUKUS in gunboats.

    They merely come in as invited legal migrants,

    Per the WSJ there are now at least 500,000 Indian nationals in the US illegally. Indians now also make up the largest group of illegals crossing the southern border, and are the fastest growing group of illegals in the US.

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    Per the WSJ there are now at least 500,000 Indian nationals in the US illegally. Indians now also make up the largest group of illegals crossing the southern border, and are the fastest growing group of illegals in the US.
     
    500k illegals & more on Southern border illegal entry? That's interesting, so they are not just tribalism 1 Indian bring 10, and took over all top corporates & crawl up to political powers gradually.

    Its a systematic brown WMM, the fastest way to gain global power without war.

    "The one who control the mindless giant US, is the one who control the world."
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  150. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The article reminds me of Uganda, that around 1970 expelled all Indians.
    One of the expelled Indians ran a cement factory.
    Making cement is a dusty business, in any case, it was at the time in Uganda.
    The Indian owner every now and then cleaned the roof from cement dust.
    The Ugandan who took over the factory did not bother.
    When the rain came the roof collapsed.
    Anyone who knows anything about IT knows that Indians are good at it.
    A world wide USA based consultancy IT firm employs in India some 80.000 employees for programming.

    Anyone who knows anything about IT knows that Indians are good at it.

    Only an Indian would make that claim. The best developers I’ve worked with are all white, with an occasional east asian or Russian. Indians are mediocre at best, many are downright bad.

    If Indians techies are that great, why is the Indian tech sector still nothing more than outsourcing support after 3 decades? The Chinese copied our ideas but at least they customized and improved on them to make them their own. Indians can’t even copy properly.

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    Do you really think a commenter with the name jilles dykstra is Indian?

    This article has attracted some of the dumbest commenters I've ever seen on the Unz Review.
    , @Dagon Shield
    JD, an Indian? Are you nuts? And morons like you are going to make America great again? What you smoking, boy? Better lay off that shit before it does you in!
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  151. cecil1 says:

    Merit based immigration ignores a basic reality: Whites have ethnic interests too.

    My country was my home. Now its a hotel. And they want to make us all waiters to the third world.

    1.White people exist.
    2. White people have the RIGHT to exist.
    3. White people have the RIGHT to exist AS White people in White Communities and Nations

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  152. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neelesh
    Unfortunately every developed nation population is on decline and life expectancy has increased. So if you the math there will be more retirees in future than working adults. Who is going to support them? In Asian cultures it is ingrained in cluture to take care of adults, so even if they do not allow immigration, they will some how survive with hard life condition and aging populations.

    West on the contrary is more individulazed society. The more successful couples are producing fewer kids. The only way to balance the aging population is to allow immigration. No matter what system you choose, few will game the system and few will not be happy but in a long run it is good for developed nation. Most people who migrate integrate over the time. If not the 1st generation then 2nd generation.

    West on the contrary is more individulazed society. The more successful couples are producing fewer kids. The only way to balance the aging population is to allow immigration. No matter what system you choose, few will game the system and few will not be happy but in a long run it is good for developed nation. Most people who migrate integrate over the time. If not the 1st generation then 2nd generation.

    Standard argument from The Economist, a Jew owned magazine that’s never met an immigrant it didn’t love. This is BS. High supply of cheap labor retards automation. What we need is more automation in the west, not more importation of cheap 3rd world labor, which is just a temporary fix, with permanent consequences. The more people we take in from the 3rd world, the quicker they’ll turn us into a 3rd world country. People are not goods, they come with their own cultural baggage. And with the multiculturalists now encouraging each group to hold on to their language and culture, this will only further splinter the US into 200 countries, an ungovernable mess.

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    If it didn’t cost so much to raise a middle class family in the US educated high IQ families would have more children .

    The major cost is housing. It’s immigrabts who have raised the cost of housing so high.

    High immigration equals high cost of housing equals high numbers of homeless equals fewer American children born because their mothers can’t any time off work.
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  153. utu says:

    There is a serious Indian question. Indians must be sent back before it is too late.

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  154. Anonymous[462] • Disclaimer says:
    @Red Pill Indian
    It's painful because it's true. I'm going blue in the face trying to convince fellow Indians here in America that being raging Marxist leftists is not a good long term solution for being welcomed in America. Alas, they don't listen to me.

    Hence, why I've created the Red Pill Indian blog, to at least try to get out alt-right ideas from an Indian perspective rather than allowing the Indian cuckservatives and SJWs monopolize the discussion.

    Hopefully I can create a safe space for Indians to be frank and politically incorrect without the fanatically white supremacist anti-Indian crowd here at Unz, Amren, and Vdare shouting about toilets and rape.

    I've written extensively here about why the alt-right hates Indians:
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians.html
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/are-indians-just-conforming-to-leftism.html
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians-part-2.html

    On whether there can be some issues in common between the Indian right and the alt-right
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/is-hindutva-red-pilled.html

    Whether new genetic knowledge about India can rekindle camaraderie between Brahmins and the German far right
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/04/aryanism.html

    Anyway, I'm getting tired of the alt-right's whining about Indians. You guys have natural allies in Brahmins in India but because you are so insistent that white people invented everything and anything of value that Asians are beneath you. America and Europe are doomed by demographic replacement and India and China will emerge as new powers...

    Anyway, Hinduism is far more compatible with evolution and the idea of not all humans being equal than Christianity is, so Western religions are going to have a harder and harder time as science discovers more and more about human origins and the degree to which genetics influences us.

    Actually, because Brahmins and Indians as a whole come from a caste system, and they want to replicate it here, Indians are the worst group to bring in. Even worse than Blacks or Jews.

    And no, Indians are not a natural ally lol. Indians are the most likely to backstab whites and native peoples. That’s why they are so hated everywhere they go. The tribal in you is strong.

    Also, Indians are notorious for saying they invented everything:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-india-43806078

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  155. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ju Ahn
    However, white people are in large #s in South Africa and that's okay because it benefits Europeans. They also took over Australia from Australian aborigines and Americas from native Americans. So, unless you guys gtfo to your western European boundaries circa 1492, you get no sympathy points.

    However, white people are in large #s in South Africa and that’s okay because it benefits Europeans. They also took over Australia from Australian aborigines and Americas from native Americans. So, unless you guys gtfo to your western European boundaries circa 1492, you get no sympathy points.

    This is the kind of attitude that makes people want to toss out all the Asian immigrants. Before this globalist takeover of the US, you were at least humble and begged to be let in. Now you’ve been emboldened, instead of knocking on our doors asking to be let in, you are now banging on our doors demanding to be let in, insisting that it is your “right” to be here, and that you are smarter and better than all those already here who built this country from nothing.
    If Asians are that smart, and Asian culture is that great, why are you here? Just answer that. Why are you here?

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    If white people are smart, contented to stay in their own borders. Why did they go around the world demanding people to trade with them? It was European nations who begged (in the 15-1600s) than demanded ( in 18-1900s when they gained more power) to trade with Asian countries.

    But you WNs obviously have stunted memories and history lessons, so it's normal not to expect civil and logical discussions with you guys.

    Why are white people in South Africa? It's predominantly an African country. Why are white people still living in overseas? Just Answer that. Why are they there?
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  156. @KenH

    But most companies I worked with me told me they CANNOT find enough white workers.
     
    Somehow I doubt companies admitted to you that they desperately want to hire more white employees but that, gosh darn it, there just isn't enough of them. These days corporations are going out of their way and breaking their own policies and federal law to hire non-whites over whites to meet diversity targets which exceed what the law requires. There's still plenty of qualified whites around.

    White women have delayed child bearing until their thirties so they could enter the workforce to "run with the wolves" and compete with men thanks largely to Jewish feminism which teaches women to seek careers and independence rather than marriage and family. And I remember in the late 90's and into the early 21 century white women who did bear several white children were often mocked as "white trash" by the (((media))) especially if they resided in smaller locales.

    Please cite the source where universities and corporations are making a racial appeal to white women to bear children much earlier so that they can grow up and displace the H1B's who corporations love because they do work for much less than the natives.

    White women have delayed child bearing until their thirties so they could enter the workforce to “run with the wolves” and compete with men thanks largely to Jewish feminism which teaches women to seek careers and independence rather than marriage and family.

    A country has the Jews it deserves, they can only thrive in the swamp of our sins.

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    Dang - that was deep. Self-reflection is indeed a lost art.

    Peace.
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  157. Wally says:
    @Dagon Shield
    Of course, Canada won't be able to provide the Nazi education...

    What is “the Nazi education”?

    Or don’t you even know?

    http://www.codoh.com

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  158. anon[220] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    There are plenty of right-wing Indian men.

    Look for Indian men with muscles, as bodybuilding has made inroads in the Indian community.
     
    Look at comment #54, 77% of Indians voted for Clinton. What % of Indian men are into bodybuilding? Most are totally out of shape weasels with pot bellies. To base your entire claim on a tiny negligible minority is just ridiculous.

    Easily answer: Thorfinnsson is another “white” like the Indians are “Westerners.” Notice how he promotes miscergenation with them and defends one of them shit-cockroach people as having “beautiful family.” And additionally, has an “Indian intern.”

    He’s just another one of those shit people, pretending to be white like they usually do.

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    Easily answer: Thorfinnsson is another “white” like the Indians are “Westerners.”
     
    Either that or he's seriously into hairy Indian bodybuilders.
    , @Thorfinnsson
    I declined to attend a friend's son's wedding because he is marrying an Indian girl.

    I also disparaged the idea in another comment in this thread.

    Read the entire thread before commenting.

    I also find the idea that white advocacy requires trashing other peoples to be objectionable. We can wish others well without wishing to mix with them.

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  159. c matt says:

    Tomorrow is the commemoration of the Battle of San Jacinto which resulted in Texas’s independence from Mexico. It all started with Mexico gaining independence from Spain, and then having lots of sparsely populated land to fill. Mexico invited Americans into Texas to settle it, and eventually these new “Texans” outnumbered the native Mexicans. The rest, as they say, is history.

    I guess what goes around, comes around.

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  160. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    I’m not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.
     
    Even though Indians might be preferable to some third world groups (diaspora Indians don't seem to do violent crime or form rape gangs) they should be high on your radar since they tend to flip congressional districts and mayoral races to the left wing Democrat wherever they concentrate in large numbers as noted in this article. When they arrive in large numbers they just re-create India.

    When they arrive in large numbers they just re-create India.

    The same can be said of any ethnic group. In small numbers, we assimilate them, in large numbers, they assimilate us. That’s why the per country quota on green card issuance is essential and must not be scrapped. The Indians are working hard to get it scrapped, and Trump is ready to hand it to them with his new “merit-based” immigration plan.

    If our politicians weren’t so corrupt and truly govern with the best interest of the country at heart, we’d put in a 0.01% limit per country every 10 years. That means no more than 32,000 immigrants from any one country every 10 years.

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  161. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Easily answer: Thorfinnsson is another "white" like the Indians are "Westerners." Notice how he promotes miscergenation with them and defends one of them shit-cockroach people as having "beautiful family." And additionally, has an "Indian intern."

    He's just another one of those shit people, pretending to be white like they usually do.

    Easily answer: Thorfinnsson is another “white” like the Indians are “Westerners.”

    Either that or he’s seriously into hairy Indian bodybuilders.

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    Lol. That bodybuilding comment was the most Indian comment he could have made.

    Trust me, I have gotten good at spotting them.
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  162. Talha says:
    @Stonehands

    White women have delayed child bearing until their thirties so they could enter the workforce to “run with the wolves” and compete with men thanks largely to Jewish feminism which teaches women to seek careers and independence rather than marriage and family.
     
    A country has the Jews it deserves, they can only thrive in the swamp of our sins.

    Dang – that was deep. Self-reflection is indeed a lost art.

    Peace.

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    Talha, I know you are Moslem- but tell me- are you Asian as well?

    I have spent some time in the Orient.

    Once a man goes to Asia; he can never be happy again in any Western country with all the B.S. and costs that go with supporting a MASSIVE and CORRUPT public service sector and the welfare system...

    Asia is the last frontier for the Western man. Traditional Chinese culture has a vastly superior set of values...

    To most Americans nothing has value except gadgets, stuff, money and power.

    Westerners made a Faustian bargain:

    Power for happiness.

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  163. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Macon Richardson
    Basically, you are saying that anyone not like you is a hypocrite. Your assertion has conflated one and a half billion Muslims, twelve million Jews and one billion non-Muslim Indians. I counted them up on my fingers and you have indicted over two and a half billion people as being hypocrites simply because of their religious or national origin. You have indicted one third of the world based on what? Personal prejudice?

    Such reckless counting, such reckless categorizing is an abomination. Rather than aggregating a two and a half billion cohort that you do n0t like, why not turn an eye to the government that allows these or any other people to come to the United States. There are actually some processes available for changing how that government conducts its business. But to ineffectually scorn two and a half billion people seems a futile gesture, one designed to exalt smugness rather than improvement.

    Dude, you realize you’re talking to an Indian, right?

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  164. Rdm says:
    @M. Thomas
    This essay is completely detached from reality. As someone who has actually worked at Microsoft as a software engineer, I can assure you that there was indeed a 'colonization' of Microsoft - by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian.

    Why are most of them Indian? Because India provides free higher education for students who qualify. This includes degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. This directly results in India creating many more qualified software engineers than the U.S. In fact, the U.S. is graduating fewer and fewer professionals in computer science, presumably because of the exorbitant cost and crushing debt.

    If the U.S. wants to 'colonize' Microsoft with white Americans, then I suggest America follow India's example and provide high quality, free education. It's really that simple.

    Oh, and yes these Indians are socialists because their high paying jobs at Microsoft (and Google, Apple, Adobe, etc.) are the direct result of the quality education they received in a socialist system. Rather than criticizing in an obviously racist way, perhaps we should learn something.

    Best,
    M. Thomas

    C’mon…. White guys are making easy money, look at Logan Paul. Where got the time to study CS in the first place??

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  165. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @DFH

    But if Indians aren’t the right choice for merit-based immigration, then who
     
    Why not other white people?

    Why not American born Whites instead of foreign Whites?

    We’re not all 80 IQ hillbillies. I went to college with the young White men who created the tech industry. Every one was a White native born American.

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    Too little too late. Time for us to colonize the shores of Asia (and I'm *NOT* counting India but more like singapore/taiwan/Hong kong as the former is way too filthy) where you have a boatload of whites already living and making money. I was part of the tech industry on the degenerate west coast. The middle management is solidly Indian in a yuuuggeeee number of companies from San Diego all the way to Seattle. Many a times they prefer candidates speaking their own language, not just any Indian so you can kiss the notion of hiring more talented whites a solid good bye. These people are *THAT* tribal in their thinking. One would wonder how their increasing numbers would ultimately challenge our current overlords, the (((globalists))) but that would be fun to watch from a distance.

    Indians are very very right leaning in their own country. Their current president is as unabashedly Hindoo as they come and rose to fame on the back of slaughtering minorities. So as far as being left leaning in the US is concerned, they do it because it ultimately helps them bring more of their kind here. Pretty soon you'll find even small towns in Nebraska would be full of dotheads.

    I've relocated myself to one of the tech clusters in east Asia and although the competition is stiffing, I still find the east Asians a little less nepotistic then the Hindoos. I plan to hone my skills here and move to eastern Europe the last refuge for the white man. Sadly many in eastern Europe are falling for NATO ready to kill their christian brethren from Russia. Zionist (((globalists))) would have us fight their wars in the middle east and then import the survivors by the truckloads to Europe. But then this is risk one must take. Live with your kind and die for what you believe in.

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  166. @anon

    There are plenty of right-wing Indian men.

    Look for Indian men with muscles, as bodybuilding has made inroads in the Indian community.
     
    Look at comment #54, 77% of Indians voted for Clinton. What % of Indian men are into bodybuilding? Most are totally out of shape weasels with pot bellies. To base your entire claim on a tiny negligible minority is just ridiculous.

    In another one of my comments I mentioned that only 32% of Indian-”Americans” voted for Trump.

    Read the entire thread before commenting.

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    Just like JD, you ain't no Indian... there are a lot of clueless jokers around here who don't know there asses from the holes they work in. Ignore them!
    , @anon
    You should try reading. Per the study in comment #54 only 16% of Indians voted for Trump.
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  167. @anon
    Easily answer: Thorfinnsson is another "white" like the Indians are "Westerners." Notice how he promotes miscergenation with them and defends one of them shit-cockroach people as having "beautiful family." And additionally, has an "Indian intern."

    He's just another one of those shit people, pretending to be white like they usually do.

    I declined to attend a friend’s son’s wedding because he is marrying an Indian girl.

    I also disparaged the idea in another comment in this thread.

    Read the entire thread before commenting.

    I also find the idea that white advocacy requires trashing other peoples to be objectionable. We can wish others well without wishing to mix with them.

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  168. @anon

    Anyone who knows anything about IT knows that Indians are good at it.
     
    Only an Indian would make that claim. The best developers I've worked with are all white, with an occasional east asian or Russian. Indians are mediocre at best, many are downright bad.

    If Indians techies are that great, why is the Indian tech sector still nothing more than outsourcing support after 3 decades? The Chinese copied our ideas but at least they customized and improved on them to make them their own. Indians can't even copy properly.

    Do you really think a commenter with the name jilles dykstra is Indian?

    This article has attracted some of the dumbest commenters I’ve ever seen on the Unz Review.

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    Lol. Yeah, because Unz must be checking passports before people register their name on this site.

    I could easily register as Apu and pretend to be Indian.
    , @anon
    Do you really think people use their real names on this forum? Stupid yourself.
    , @Anonymous
    Most people are dumb at knowing themselves and dumber at knowing others.
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  169. Anonymous[462] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    There are plenty of right-wing Indian men.

    Look for Indian men with muscles, as bodybuilding has made inroads in the Indian community.

    Interesting how there are so many Indians masquerading as Europeans at Unz. This is a very common tactic of Indians and should have been expected though.

    Sorry Apu, no one believes you are white.

    Yet another reason to not want more Indians in this country.

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    No surprise that "Anonymous[462]" is unfamiliar with regular commenters on the Unz Review.

    Click on my commenting history and draw a better conclusion. Over 100,000 words of evidence available.
    , @Dagon Shield
    Don't you mean that Indians are masquerading on this site as whites not Europeans? Another dumbass!
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  170. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    "lemme tell you what is reality" says a loser who probably never worked a day in technology, to someone who actually worked inside of Microsoft...

    Someone who claimed he or she actually worked inside Microsoft.

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  171. @Anonymous
    Interesting how there are so many Indians masquerading as Europeans at Unz. This is a very common tactic of Indians and should have been expected though.

    Sorry Apu, no one believes you are white.

    Yet another reason to not want more Indians in this country.

    No surprise that “Anonymous[462]” is unfamiliar with regular commenters on the Unz Review.

    Click on my commenting history and draw a better conclusion. Over 100,000 words of evidence available.

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  172. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    The bottom quintile of whites is largely not political at all, though some fraction consists of white trashionalists, especially men who have been to prison.

    Bluehaired feminists do not come from the bottom quintile of white society at all. They have no exposure to university-bred SJWism. They do become obese unless they develop a meth habit however.

    What’s with all these references to blue haired feminists????

    If Thomm and the rest are referring to the style of white haired women using a blue rinse to get rid of the yellow streaks;

    That blue rinse style went out of fashion about 1950. It has not been in style for the last 70 years.

    I’ve noted that many of the commenters tend to be old codgers. But to remember the 1930s and 40s when old ladies blue rinsed their hair commenters would have to be about 120 years old.

    Or are you all referring to the style of younger women dying their hair pink green blue purple lavender???

    So only the young women who dye their hair blue are feminists and the ones who dye their hair pink green and purple are not feminists??????

    It would be nice to know what you all are talking about. This is the only place I’ve ever heard the term blue haired feminists.

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    A more common term is pink-haired SJWs.

    He's referring to obese, mentally ill, ugly, and "liberal" young women.

    Every fat girl with an odd hair color is a feminist, but thin girls who sport odd hair colors just really like drugs and sex.
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  173. Ju Ahn says:
    @anon

    However, white people are in large #s in South Africa and that’s okay because it benefits Europeans. They also took over Australia from Australian aborigines and Americas from native Americans. So, unless you guys gtfo to your western European boundaries circa 1492, you get no sympathy points.
     
    This is the kind of attitude that makes people want to toss out all the Asian immigrants. Before this globalist takeover of the US, you were at least humble and begged to be let in. Now you've been emboldened, instead of knocking on our doors asking to be let in, you are now banging on our doors demanding to be let in, insisting that it is your "right" to be here, and that you are smarter and better than all those already here who built this country from nothing.
    If Asians are that smart, and Asian culture is that great, why are you here? Just answer that. Why are you here?

    If white people are smart, contented to stay in their own borders. Why did they go around the world demanding people to trade with them? It was European nations who begged (in the 15-1600s) than demanded ( in 18-1900s when they gained more power) to trade with Asian countries.

    But you WNs obviously have stunted memories and history lessons, so it’s normal not to expect civil and logical discussions with you guys.

    Why are white people in South Africa? It’s predominantly an African country. Why are white people still living in overseas? Just Answer that. Why are they there?

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    Why are they there?
     
    They had guns and ships - that's usually how history rolls.

    Peace.
    , @anon
    You didn't answer the question. Why are you here if Asians are really that much smarter and superior?
    , @Thorfinnsson
    The same reason many non-whites are in our countries now. Money.

    South Africa, by the way, was colonized by whites and blacks at roughly the same time. The indigenous population consisted of capoids.

    There were no blacks at all in the Cape when the Dutch arrived, only capoids (whom the Dutch called hottentots). The blacks entered through Natal.

    Although, once again, it doesn't matter. The fundamental organizing principle of classical international law (not the pozzed post-1945 shitfest we have now) is the right of conquest.

    The whites beat the blacks in battle decisively (The Battle of Blood River, later the Anglo-Zulu War) and therefore earned the right to rule.

    And it's not like China was always its present size. The Han race and territory have expanded dramatically. Just not as much as whites expanded geographically.
    , @Mark Presco
    Ju Ahn

    First let me clear up some misconceptions you have about South Africa. Whites, specifically Boers (Dutch farmers) did not steal land from Africans. They settled sparsely populated land, much of it marginal, in the southwest. At roughly the same time several black tribes settled in the northeast, numbering no more than 5 million.

    As whites developed an economy and jobs, migrants from all over Africa flooded into the southwest, exploding the population to over 50 million. They used democracy to seize control and then voted themselves a license to steal the land they never had a claim to.

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/truth-lies-south-african-history-blacks-indigenous-arrived-kobus-jfk/

    Whites are beginning to realize that this will be the fate of all white cultures unless we stop it. We do not intend to become minorities to hostile invaders.

    Off topic, do you have a way to get the word out that pictures from 1967 South Korea are available here:

    http://korea1967.blogspot.com/
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  174. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    WRT Mossman's article Indians and whites have a lot of shared political problems.

    Indians suffer from their own version of "diversity" in the form of Mohammedans (whom are permitted polygamy under Indian law) and privileges for the scheduled castes. Hindu education is explicitly discriminated against in Indian law. Western-funded NGOs daily pour poison into the veins of India. A major fraction of the Indian elite has bought into Western liberalism as well.

    While I agree with Mossman's point that high-IQ immigrants are not an unalloyed good and can even be dangerous (see: the Jews), I think he is overplaying his hand with respect to Indians.

    SJWism frequently infects Indian women who attend our universities just as it does white women. With Indian men who are political you can quickly assess them the same way you can a white man--by physiognomy. Weak Indian men trend towards SJWism, stronger ones are willing to work with us. Look at Ajit Pai for instance.

    It's worth remembering when assessing Indians that they are our very, very distant cousins--especially the higher castes and fairer ones. They are quite similar to us in many ways despite a very different culture, religion, and society.

    I'm not in favor of any non-white immigration (let alone coolie labor programs), but Indians are relatively low on my threat radar.

    Indians are a threat to anyone who works in tech or medicine.

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    Immigrants are a threat to nearly all workers.

    Though I don't feel too badly about people in "medicine". Those goldbricking white-robed terrorist quacks can go pound sand.
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  175. @anon

    Anyone who knows anything about IT knows that Indians are good at it.
     
    Only an Indian would make that claim. The best developers I've worked with are all white, with an occasional east asian or Russian. Indians are mediocre at best, many are downright bad.

    If Indians techies are that great, why is the Indian tech sector still nothing more than outsourcing support after 3 decades? The Chinese copied our ideas but at least they customized and improved on them to make them their own. Indians can't even copy properly.

    JD, an Indian? Are you nuts? And morons like you are going to make America great again? What you smoking, boy? Better lay off that shit before it does you in!

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  176. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Do you really think a commenter with the name jilles dykstra is Indian?

    This article has attracted some of the dumbest commenters I've ever seen on the Unz Review.

    Lol. Yeah, because Unz must be checking passports before people register their name on this site.

    I could easily register as Apu and pretend to be Indian.

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    Well "Anonymous[392]", another option is to click on his username and check his comment history yourself.

    Or trust the regular commenters here instead of accusing us of being secret Indians.

    Jilles Dykstra is Dutch and his commenting history clearly supports that.
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  177. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Easily answer: Thorfinnsson is another “white” like the Indians are “Westerners.”
     
    Either that or he's seriously into hairy Indian bodybuilders.

    Lol. That bodybuilding comment was the most Indian comment he could have made.

    Trust me, I have gotten good at spotting them.

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    You are an idiot. This has become the most ridiculous thread ever.
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  178. @Anonymous
    Interesting how there are so many Indians masquerading as Europeans at Unz. This is a very common tactic of Indians and should have been expected though.

    Sorry Apu, no one believes you are white.

    Yet another reason to not want more Indians in this country.

    Don’t you mean that Indians are masquerading on this site as whites not Europeans? Another dumbass!

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  179. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    my Tamil Brahmin son
     
    LOL! Are you for real?

    The pictures are meant to prove what the degenerate you are replying to, is saying? Poor Tamil Brahmin with deep seated complexes wants to be accepted as a white guy.

    You may wish to control the exultation until the young one grows up. Of course, by all means let the little guy grow up to be God's gift to white women, but it always better to wait. Remember the Harry Potter guy, or DeCaprio, or...

    Perhaps you should have posted a picture of your "handsome" aryan-like Tamil Brahmin mug.


    http://www.santabanta.com/images/sandeepa-dhar/50848/

    Brahmin bollywood actress
     

    Seriously, it is so twisted to link some bollywood whore to prove a point on how "beautiful" brahmins are. Whoredom is not real "beauty," you Tamil Brahmin degenerate.

    Actually, you know, you have just proven how pathetic you are.

    Don’t all the Indian actors actresses and models bleach their skin and wear greenish hazel contacts lenses?

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  180. @Thorfinnsson
    In another one of my comments I mentioned that only 32% of Indian-"Americans" voted for Trump.

    Read the entire thread before commenting.

    Just like JD, you ain’t no Indian… there are a lot of clueless jokers around here who don’t know there asses from the holes they work in. Ignore them!

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  181. Ju Ahn says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike
    Not even close to a rational comparison, but that's to be expected from a glorified drone hovering on the edge of a conservative autism spectrum.

    Europeans went to where there was no advanced civilization and built them. You and yours came to the West like cockroaches to a candy store, AFTER it was built. East Asians do not innovate, they replicate. And that is simultaneously the source of your bloated sense of value and your bitter inferiority complex.

    Millions of Europeans do not risk all they have to flow into India or China (while the reverse is true), because those places are 95% shit, and the other 5% is stolen from the West.

    You WNs are the ones who have inferiority complex as you’re taking credits for accomplishments for other people of your race. Plus, you all are all scared to death and refuse to compete with foreign immigrants head to head using skills. Obviously many intelligent and educated white men do not have trouble retaining jobs despite the influx of immigrants.

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    Why should we have to compete for jobs with foreigners in our own country?
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    I'm not taking credit for anything, I'm pointing out that the most innovative people in the world are of European decent. The fact that you re-use (incorrectly) the term (inferiority complex) I used to describe your mud people speaks to my exact point about yours being unable to think up anything on your own, and you just merely replicate what has already been done.

    Your race are worker bees with a high output CPU. You can do math but can't operate a hammer. In that regard you're less useful than mestizos in most practical applications.

    "Plus, you all are all scared to death and refuse to compete with foreign immigrants head to head using skills."

    LOL - this might be the most absurd bit of projection I have ever read. Go ahead give me another, like how European descendants are intimidated by the large stature of Asian men and their >4" penises.
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  182. Talha says:
    @Ju Ahn
    If white people are smart, contented to stay in their own borders. Why did they go around the world demanding people to trade with them? It was European nations who begged (in the 15-1600s) than demanded ( in 18-1900s when they gained more power) to trade with Asian countries.

    But you WNs obviously have stunted memories and history lessons, so it's normal not to expect civil and logical discussions with you guys.

    Why are white people in South Africa? It's predominantly an African country. Why are white people still living in overseas? Just Answer that. Why are they there?

    Why are they there?

    They had guns and ships – that’s usually how history rolls.

    Peace.

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  183. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    The 7% per country limit for green cards must *not* be scrapped. Without it the green card system will be completely inundated by Indians and Chinese. The EB5 investor visa has a similar per country limit, without it the Chinese will take all the visas. These country quotas are ingenious and must be kept. What we need is an overall reduction for all countries -- reduce the 1 million new green cards a year to 250,000, but keep the per country limit at 7%. Better yet, no new green cards at all for the next 20 years. The EB5 should just be cancelled out right.

    The Seattle Times article mentioned that those who have been approved for a green card can have their H1b visa extended every 3 years until they receive their green card, which could be up to a couple of decades due to the per country limit. Trump at one point threatened to cancel the indefinite extensions, why doesn't he just do it?! Why are we allowing people indefinite extensions? Send them all packing. Microsoft can let these people work out of their offices in India.

    Most annoying of all, why does Microsoft need to bring all these people in from India? With all the telcom technology, they can easily have these people work in India. It'll even save them a bundle since they can pay them a lot less. Average salary for a Microsoft employee in Redmond is $180,000. Average salary for a tech worker in Bangalore is $29,000. Wouldn't that be a better way to help develop a 3rd world country, by bringing the jobs there? Why is Microsoft bringing them all here?

    Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Fuckerberg and all the tech plantation owners don't just want compliant 3rd world labor, they want to wreck the country doing it. Beyond just destroying our social cohesion, these tech workers put enormous strain on our environment. Everywhere you turn in the Seattle area beautiful wooded areas are being clear cut to build densely packed new developments so more people from India and China can all move here and live on top of us. Traffic in the Seattle area has gone from bad to near impossible in the last 10 years. But Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos don't care, they are nicely ensconced in their pristine estate homes in Medina on Lake Washington.

    What with the incredible cost of housing in Santa Clara county ( Silicon Valley). I’ve often wondered why the tech giants can’t move their operations overseas.

    How difficult can it be? They’ve moved everything else overseas.

    Decades ago the San Francisco finiancial people moved all the clerical workers out of the ultra expensive San Francisco financial district. Only the upper rank execs are left in San Francisco. Cheaper rents, affordable housing and endurable commutes for the workers Win Win.

    Why can’t San Jose and Mountain View companies do the same? Send their workers back to China and India.

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    A combination of security and location concerns. At the scaling they are dealing with, they want to be close to the Internet bonebones.
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  184. @Ivan
    There is a much simpler explanation of why Indians vote for the Left in the US. They are world's ranking hypocrites along with Muslims and Jews.

    Indian-Americans (green card holders and undocumented/illegal can’t vote) voting for liberals reflect their awareness that only 70 years ago the holocaust happened and also, their own forebears were colonized as well as, African Americans didn’t get civil rights without fighting even to this day. As long as there are enough whites who talk about the need to put people of color in their places, they are not going to vote Republican.

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    Indians generally have a neutral or even positive impression of the H-man and don't know or care about the Jews.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Lu_Hitler_Marak

    Mahatma Ghandi started out his career by describing the many ways in which Indians are superior to negroes.

    Indians also aren't colored people in two ways:

    1 - They are not racially inferior
    2 - They are actually caucasoids

    Indians are also fellow victims of Mohammedan terrorism.

    There's quite a bit of common ground.

    There are of course still sticking points such as immigration (like all foreigners they think they have a human right to move here) and Christianity.

    Owing to the immigration issue we're not likely to get cooperation from them until we decisively close off immigration and make it clear that this is our country and we're going to keep it.

    Once that's made clear I think we can work with them.

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  185. @Anonymous
    Lol. That bodybuilding comment was the most Indian comment he could have made.

    Trust me, I have gotten good at spotting them.

    You are an idiot. This has become the most ridiculous thread ever.

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    Sounds like something an Indian would say, "Daniel". ;)
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  186. @Anon
    What with the incredible cost of housing in Santa Clara county ( Silicon Valley). I’ve often wondered why the tech giants can’t move their operations overseas.

    How difficult can it be? They’ve moved everything else overseas.

    Decades ago the San Francisco finiancial people moved all the clerical workers out of the ultra expensive San Francisco financial district. Only the upper rank execs are left in San Francisco. Cheaper rents, affordable housing and endurable commutes for the workers Win Win.

    Why can’t San Jose and Mountain View companies do the same? Send their workers back to China and India.

    A combination of security and location concerns. At the scaling they are dealing with, they want to be close to the Internet bonebones.

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  187. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:

    If Nikki “NutJob” Haley is representative of the Indian demographic then GOD HELP US!

    - Frankie

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  188. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:

    I remember the Seattle East Side when it was still very much White (and East Asian) and Republican:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxGDSucCEI

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    LOL that whole series was funny. Even up through the 90's the area was white, safe, clean, polite with lots of beautiful wooded areas. Jennifer Dunn of GOP never was in danger of losing her seat representing Bellevue, neither was her successor Dave Reichert. The entire East Side was a GOP stronghold. East Side was great through the 90's.

    Now it's just endless traffic and congestion, one ugly development after another, homeless camps, a protest every other week, antifa, angry blue hair lesbians with bullhorns, rude & loud Indians and Chinese everywhere you go, libtards and their nauseating virtue signaling in all the local papers. Thanks a yahoo Bill Gates. All the babies he saved in Africa is ruining Europe, while he brings in all the Indians and Chinese to ruin the US.

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  190. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    In another one of my comments I mentioned that only 32% of Indian-"Americans" voted for Trump.

    Read the entire thread before commenting.

    You should try reading. Per the study in comment #54 only 16% of Indians voted for Trump.

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    Thanks, I stand corrected.

    Looks like Kumar wasted his money.
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  191. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Do you really think a commenter with the name jilles dykstra is Indian?

    This article has attracted some of the dumbest commenters I've ever seen on the Unz Review.

    Do you really think people use their real names on this forum? Stupid yourself.

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    Don't know if it's his real name or not, but the idea that an Indian would pick a Dutch username is really bizarre.

    And if you actually read Dykstra's comments you'll see he is indeed Dutch.

    But apparently the cool thing for you anonymous worms to do is to wildly accuse anyone and everyone of being Indian.
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  192. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ju Ahn
    If white people are smart, contented to stay in their own borders. Why did they go around the world demanding people to trade with them? It was European nations who begged (in the 15-1600s) than demanded ( in 18-1900s when they gained more power) to trade with Asian countries.

    But you WNs obviously have stunted memories and history lessons, so it's normal not to expect civil and logical discussions with you guys.

    Why are white people in South Africa? It's predominantly an African country. Why are white people still living in overseas? Just Answer that. Why are they there?

    You didn’t answer the question. Why are you here if Asians are really that much smarter and superior?

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    I did not say Asians are superior. Not everyone feels as WNs do and feel the need to their population groups superiority over another. I'm here for the same reason as the westerners living in overseas. I'm allowed to be here and it is simply inconvenient for me to move back. However, there are many opportunities back in South Korea as well since South Korea is actually more developed than many European nations except U.K., France, and Germany.

    To be honest with you, I don't think many East Asians care to move to other western countries besides the U.S. I do not believe the industries in countries like Britain, France, and Germany offer much advantages to people from South Korea and Japan who already live in developed nations. However, since U.S. is the only remaining superpower on the globe, they do offer better industry in certain sectors. Plus, the U.S. has much closer trade relations with East Asia than European countries. So many of us come over here for trade reasons (working for East Asian companies or as East Asian representatives in the U.S.).

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  193. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ju Ahn
    You WNs are the ones who have inferiority complex as you're taking credits for accomplishments for other people of your race. Plus, you all are all scared to death and refuse to compete with foreign immigrants head to head using skills. Obviously many intelligent and educated white men do not have trouble retaining jobs despite the influx of immigrants.

    Why should we have to compete for jobs with foreigners in our own country?

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    Because, your masters say so... better get used to playing the second fiddle or maybe third!
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  194. @Anon
    What’s with all these references to blue haired feminists????

    If Thomm and the rest are referring to the style of white haired women using a blue rinse to get rid of the yellow streaks;

    That blue rinse style went out of fashion about 1950. It has not been in style for the last 70 years.

    I’ve noted that many of the commenters tend to be old codgers. But to remember the 1930s and 40s when old ladies blue rinsed their hair commenters would have to be about 120 years old.

    Or are you all referring to the style of younger women dying their hair pink green blue purple lavender???

    So only the young women who dye their hair blue are feminists and the ones who dye their hair pink green and purple are not feminists??????

    It would be nice to know what you all are talking about. This is the only place I’ve ever heard the term blue haired feminists.

    A more common term is pink-haired SJWs.

    He’s referring to obese, mentally ill, ugly, and “liberal” young women.

    Every fat girl with an odd hair color is a feminist, but thin girls who sport odd hair colors just really like drugs and sex.

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    So you’re another 80 year old codger who disapproves of youthful fashions?
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  195. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:

    The book Twilight of the Elites by Christopher Hayes has this to say about cheap labor:

    The slave economy of the antebellum South conferred massive material gains on a very small number of extremely wealthy white plantation owners. But it also severely stunted the development of the region. With a steady supply of low cost human labor, there was no incentive to invent and industrialize, so that by the time of the Civil War the North was far richer than the South, though the South contained far more of the nation’s richest men.

    Tech plantation owners and farmers of today who insist on having unlimited supply of cheap third world labor will eventually weaken the US economy. Other countries like Japan will leapfrog us on farm technology, automation, robotics and Artificial Intelligence.

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  196. @Thomm

    But as Indians only represent .9 to 1% of the general population they are overrepresented by a factor of 16.
     
    So you are no better than the blacks who demand to be 13% of the tech industry. In other words, you are a wigger.

    The point is, Peterike insisted that once an Indian becomes a CEO, he pushes out all non-Indians. Then Peterike provided data showing that Microsoft is still 84% non-Indian even after 4 years of an Indian CEO, completely undermining his ignorant point and displaying his low Polack IQ.

    That is what happened here. Your wigger tangent is of no interest.

    Wow, your charm and insight really went over the top when you repeated the old canard that Poles are stupid.

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    Wow, your charm and insight really went over the top when you repeated the old canard that Poles are stupid.
     
    They are known for being rather dim. Archie Bunker said this every week on the highest-rated sitcom of the time, starting in 1971.

    If you don't like people saying that Polacks are dim, having someone as dumb as Peterike represent you is just about the worst way to go about that.
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  197. @Ju Ahn
    If white people are smart, contented to stay in their own borders. Why did they go around the world demanding people to trade with them? It was European nations who begged (in the 15-1600s) than demanded ( in 18-1900s when they gained more power) to trade with Asian countries.

    But you WNs obviously have stunted memories and history lessons, so it's normal not to expect civil and logical discussions with you guys.

    Why are white people in South Africa? It's predominantly an African country. Why are white people still living in overseas? Just Answer that. Why are they there?

    The same reason many non-whites are in our countries now. Money.

    South Africa, by the way, was colonized by whites and blacks at roughly the same time. The indigenous population consisted of capoids.

    There were no blacks at all in the Cape when the Dutch arrived, only capoids (whom the Dutch called hottentots). The blacks entered through Natal.

    Although, once again, it doesn’t matter. The fundamental organizing principle of classical international law (not the pozzed post-1945 shitfest we have now) is the right of conquest.

    The whites beat the blacks in battle decisively (The Battle of Blood River, later the Anglo-Zulu War) and therefore earned the right to rule.

    And it’s not like China was always its present size. The Han race and territory have expanded dramatically. Just not as much as whites expanded geographically.

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    Im from South Africa originally and you're full of shit. That's the crap the whites tried to sell, like the Jews, "a land without people for a people without land ". You're a right winged nut job!
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  198. @Anon
    Indians are a threat to anyone who works in tech or medicine.

    Immigrants are a threat to nearly all workers.

    Though I don’t feel too badly about people in “medicine”. Those goldbricking white-robed terrorist quacks can go pound sand.

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  199. @Anonymous
    Lol. Yeah, because Unz must be checking passports before people register their name on this site.

    I could easily register as Apu and pretend to be Indian.

    Well “Anonymous[392]“, another option is to click on his username and check his comment history yourself.

    Or trust the regular commenters here instead of accusing us of being secret Indians.

    Jilles Dykstra is Dutch and his commenting history clearly supports that.

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  200. @anon
    You should try reading. Per the study in comment #54 only 16% of Indians voted for Trump.

    Thanks, I stand corrected.

    Looks like Kumar wasted his money.

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  201. @anon
    Do you really think people use their real names on this forum? Stupid yourself.

    Don’t know if it’s his real name or not, but the idea that an Indian would pick a Dutch username is really bizarre.

    And if you actually read Dykstra’s comments you’ll see he is indeed Dutch.

    But apparently the cool thing for you anonymous worms to do is to wildly accuse anyone and everyone of being Indian.

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    Indians belong in India. It's that simple. Had immigration been put to a vote, they wouldn't be here.
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  202. @Daniel Chieh
    You are an idiot. This has become the most ridiculous thread ever.

    Sounds like something an Indian would say, “Daniel”. ;)

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  203. @Dagon Shield
    Indian-Americans (green card holders and undocumented/illegal can't vote) voting for liberals reflect their awareness that only 70 years ago the holocaust happened and also, their own forebears were colonized as well as, African Americans didn't get civil rights without fighting even to this day. As long as there are enough whites who talk about the need to put people of color in their places, they are not going to vote Republican.

    Indians generally have a neutral or even positive impression of the H-man and don’t know or care about the Jews.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Lu_Hitler_Marak

    Mahatma Ghandi started out his career by describing the many ways in which Indians are superior to negroes.

    Indians also aren’t colored people in two ways:

    1 – They are not racially inferior
    2 – They are actually caucasoids

    Indians are also fellow victims of Mohammedan terrorism.

    There’s quite a bit of common ground.

    There are of course still sticking points such as immigration (like all foreigners they think they have a human right to move here) and Christianity.

    Owing to the immigration issue we’re not likely to get cooperation from them until we decisively close off immigration and make it clear that this is our country and we’re going to keep it.

    Once that’s made clear I think we can work with them.

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    Indians generally have a neutral or even positive impression of the H-man and don’t know or care about the Jews.
     
    Sort of, not really though. Those in this thread who are actually Indians (or at least those who are South Indians) might get some fun out of this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpRU6yeE8Uc

    Sorry I couldn't get a version with subtitles; the title is the main funny thing here anyway.

    That politician you mentioned is a hick from the sticks where anything goes, really. You'll also get a number of Indians and Ceylonese with names like Lenin or Stalin (I haven't heard Mao, but I'm sure he's out there). The Indians I've known don't like Adolph, but they don't have the weird view of him as some kind of supernatural demon common in the US.

    , @Anonymous
    Actually, Indians are inferior to most of black Africa. They have a national IQ of 81 which is indeed lower than most blacks.

    If you see how they view rape in India you will know what I mean.

    The top of India has a lot of smart people, but these people are mainly SJW types that we have too much of anyway.
    , @Druid
    In the BBC documentary a few years ago, they called the moghul time in India it's golden age, shithead!
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  204. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Edward
    I strongly disagree with much of this article. First of all, Modi is liberalizing the Indian economy, not going in the other direction.

    Secondly, if Indians were naturally "leftists", why do Indians in Britain favour the Conservative Party over the Labour Party. This hasn't always been historically true, but as the Labour Party in Britain has drifted increasingly leftward, Indians have increasingly favoured the Conservatives:

    The 2015 election saw the Conservatives receive 1m ethnic minority votes for the first time in its electoral history. And those votes came largely at Labour’s expense. A post-election survey by British Future showed the Tories enjoyed an eight percentage point advantage over Labour among Britain’s Hindu and Sikh communities. The Conservatives have 49% popularity among both ethno-religious groups, to Labour’s 41%.

     

    Why? British Indians have the highest average incomes out of any group in Britain, just as Indian-Americans have the highest household incomes in the United States. The difference is that the Republicans are perceived as being much more extreme in the United States than the Conservatives are in Britain, while the Democrats are more in favour of economic freedom than Labour are in Britain.

    Corbyn’s old-fashioned social democratic model of political economy – high taxes funding an all-encompassing welfare state designed for mass wealth redistribution – is unlikely to command much support among aspirational British Indian voters. The reality is that if many had reservations over the interventionist nature of the economic policies promoted under Ed Miliband’s leadership, they are also likely to find the core tenets of Corbynism unpalatable...

    Out of Britain’s sizeable ethnic minority groups, British Indians are the most likely to work in salaried professions. Research from 2010 also showed the fertility rate within the British Indian community fell below the UK average. When combining the realities of greater occupational advancement, low fertility rates and relatively high female economic activity, the archetypal British Indian family is comparatively small, self-sufficient and minimally reliant on welfare assistance. So comprehensive welfare commitments are unlikely to appeal to them.
     
    From: https://theconversation.com/how-the-conservatives-stole-the-british-indian-vote-from-labour-77275

    The article isn’t about Indians in the UK.

    It’s about Indians in America so your comment is pointless and stupid.

    The two different groups have very different goals. The UK Indians want a more pro business government. So they are conservative.

    Indians in America want more discrimination against American Whites and more affirmative action opportunities for blacks Browns tans and yellows.

    Two different populations, two different goals.

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    I'm pretty sure Indians and East Asians don't benefit any from affirmative action policies, and there is a good chance that we are hurt more than white Americans by such practices.

    I don't get why same white people who claim to be discriminated by Affirmative Action policies do not recognize the fact that Asians are hurt even more by such policies.
    , @Edward
    “This article isn’t about Indians living in the UK”

    Except for the fact that it attempted to explain Indian-American voting patterns by appealing to Indian current affairs and argued that these voting patterns are something inherent to Indian culture.

    Indian-Americans and East Asians, as we know, are overrepresented in Californian universities, where affirmative action is banned. They don’t benefit from these policies, at least not in universities; in fact, they’re discriminated against by these policies where they exist. Perhaps in the workplace it’s a different matter, I don’t know.

    Either way, you’re claiming that if we got rid of affirmative action, Indian-Americans would suddenly vote like British Indians? Seems unlikely. This is because the entire article is flawed, and the voting patterns can be explained very simply: the Republicans are perceived by South Asians as extreme, with tinges of racism. The Conservative Party in Britain are not, any longer.
    , @Anonymous
    Indians in Britain support the Conservatives because Labour is the party of Muslims (and has been since the Attlee government created Pakistan in 1947). It's a tribal thing, not about economics.
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  205. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I remember the Seattle East Side when it was still very much White (and East Asian) and Republican:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxGDSucCEI

    LOL that whole series was funny. Even up through the 90′s the area was white, safe, clean, polite with lots of beautiful wooded areas. Jennifer Dunn of GOP never was in danger of losing her seat representing Bellevue, neither was her successor Dave Reichert. The entire East Side was a GOP stronghold. East Side was great through the 90′s.

    Now it’s just endless traffic and congestion, one ugly development after another, homeless camps, a protest every other week, antifa, angry blue hair lesbians with bullhorns, rude & loud Indians and Chinese everywhere you go, libtards and their nauseating virtue signaling in all the local papers. Thanks a yahoo Bill Gates. All the babies he saved in Africa is ruining Europe, while he brings in all the Indians and Chinese to ruin the US.

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  206. Ju Ahn says:
    @anon
    You didn't answer the question. Why are you here if Asians are really that much smarter and superior?

    I did not say Asians are superior. Not everyone feels as WNs do and feel the need to their population groups superiority over another. I’m here for the same reason as the westerners living in overseas. I’m allowed to be here and it is simply inconvenient for me to move back. However, there are many opportunities back in South Korea as well since South Korea is actually more developed than many European nations except U.K., France, and Germany.

    To be honest with you, I don’t think many East Asians care to move to other western countries besides the U.S. I do not believe the industries in countries like Britain, France, and Germany offer much advantages to people from South Korea and Japan who already live in developed nations. However, since U.S. is the only remaining superpower on the globe, they do offer better industry in certain sectors. Plus, the U.S. has much closer trade relations with East Asia than European countries. So many of us come over here for trade reasons (working for East Asian companies or as East Asian representatives in the U.S.).

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  207. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The article reminds me of Uganda, that around 1970 expelled all Indians.
    One of the expelled Indians ran a cement factory.
    Making cement is a dusty business, in any case, it was at the time in Uganda.
    The Indian owner every now and then cleaned the roof from cement dust.
    The Ugandan who took over the factory did not bother.
    When the rain came the roof collapsed.
    Anyone who knows anything about IT knows that Indians are good at it.
    A world wide USA based consultancy IT firm employs in India some 80.000 employees for programming.

    Seems as though you approve of job replacement for Americans but not the Dutch.

    There are millions of Americans with 110 to 120 IQs who could perfectly well be programmers. But they are not accepted into college because they are White.

    And every American employer is reluctant to hire White Americas because of severe affirmative action discrimination policies persecuted by numerous government agencies.

    Why bother hiring a White American when it will bring down all sorts of investigations and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines?

    Better to just avoid hiring Whites and avoid the investigations and fines.

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    White people have easier time getting into college than Indians or East Asians. You are obviously clueless about the state of college admissions right now. In addition, young white men simply aren't as attracted to industry in computer science or computer engineering as much as their passion for law or finance. So their culture is partly to blame for the lack of representation in certain tech industries.

    And every American employer is reluctant to hire White Americas because of severe affirmative action discrimination policies persecuted by numerous government agencies.

    Why bother hiring a White American when it will bring down all sorts of investigations and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines?

     

    Again, let me remind you that affirmative action policies favor Hispanics and African Americans NOT East Asians and Indians, but you might be too fixated on your extreme WN ideas about white genocide to believe this.
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  208. KenH says:
    @Thomm

    But as Indians only represent .9 to 1% of the general population they are overrepresented by a factor of 16.
     
    So you are no better than the blacks who demand to be 13% of the tech industry. In other words, you are a wigger.

    The point is, Peterike insisted that once an Indian becomes a CEO, he pushes out all non-Indians. Then Peterike provided data showing that Microsoft is still 84% non-Indian even after 4 years of an Indian CEO, completely undermining his ignorant point and displaying his low Polack IQ.

    That is what happened here. Your wigger tangent is of no interest.

    So you are no better than the blacks who demand to be 13% of the tech industry. In other words, you are a wigger.

    Peeping Thomm, you just have poor reading comprehension skills beside having a fourth rate intellect. Using your own cheesy estimates it can be circumstantially proven that Microsoft is discriminating in favor of Indians (and Orientals) which you think is great because of your Indian fetish. Being overrepresented by a factor of 16 wouldn’t raise eyebrows in a black African nation but it should in a first world majority white nation that invented and pioneered software and computer technology.

    This trend started before the current Indian CEO but you haven’t offered any proof that he is diverging from the company’s racial spoils system in hiring. Since Indians are consummate racial and familial nepotists it’s safe to assume Microsoft’s dot headed CEO is doing his part to Indianize the company as much or more than his predecessors.

    Oracle was doing the same thing, but they got busted for it unlike Microsoft:

    https://qz.com/889524/the-us-says-oracle-is-encouraging-indians-to-hire-others-indians-and-its-killing-diversity/

    You’re much too small minded and bigoted to understand and acknowledge these things. All that first cousin marriage in the Jewish community has affected your brain. The cure is to go stand out in the middle of a busy highway.

    You’re the quota queen. You just called for 60% “Asian”immigration and 40% white (mostly Russian). That’s the stupidest thing anyone’s ever heard of since America wasn’t founded and built by either group but we should consider the source it came from.

    Your response is just typical of your many menopausal temper tantrums.

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    Let's see, you still want a race-based immigration system, rather than a merit based one. You are very un-American in your nature.

    You see race in everything, just like the BLM blacks. You are, once again, a wigger. Your own words prove it.


    it’s safe to assume Microsoft’s dot headed CEO is doing his part to Indianize the company as much or more than his predecessors.
     
    That is why 84% of Microsoft is non-Indian.

    You’re the quota queen. You just called for 60% “Asian”immigration and 40% white (mostly Russian).
     
    I said there should never be a quota. Only merit. That is the mix that a merit-based system will deliver. Your projection is evidence of your extremely primitive thought processes.

    See, this is a topic that requires an IQ 40 points higher than what you possess. Since you have just a Negro IQ, you are a wigger.

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  209. Druid says:
    @Red Pill Indian
    It's painful because it's true. I'm going blue in the face trying to convince fellow Indians here in America that being raging Marxist leftists is not a good long term solution for being welcomed in America. Alas, they don't listen to me.

    Hence, why I've created the Red Pill Indian blog, to at least try to get out alt-right ideas from an Indian perspective rather than allowing the Indian cuckservatives and SJWs monopolize the discussion.

    Hopefully I can create a safe space for Indians to be frank and politically incorrect without the fanatically white supremacist anti-Indian crowd here at Unz, Amren, and Vdare shouting about toilets and rape.

    I've written extensively here about why the alt-right hates Indians:
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians.html
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/are-indians-just-conforming-to-leftism.html
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians-part-2.html

    On whether there can be some issues in common between the Indian right and the alt-right
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/is-hindutva-red-pilled.html

    Whether new genetic knowledge about India can rekindle camaraderie between Brahmins and the German far right
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/04/aryanism.html

    Anyway, I'm getting tired of the alt-right's whining about Indians. You guys have natural allies in Brahmins in India but because you are so insistent that white people invented everything and anything of value that Asians are beneath you. America and Europe are doomed by demographic replacement and India and China will emerge as new powers...

    Anyway, Hinduism is far more compatible with evolution and the idea of not all humans being equal than Christianity is, so Western religions are going to have a harder and harder time as science discovers more and more about human origins and the degree to which genetics influences us.

    Brahmin scum!

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    No brahmins, no Hinduism; no ha cohens, no Judaism; no druids priesthood, no Celtic culture...
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  210. @anon
    Why should we have to compete for jobs with foreigners in our own country?

    Because, your masters say so… better get used to playing the second fiddle or maybe third!

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  211. Ju Ahn says:
    @Anon
    The article isn’t about Indians in the UK.

    It’s about Indians in America so your comment is pointless and stupid.

    The two different groups have very different goals. The UK Indians want a more pro business government. So they are conservative.

    Indians in America want more discrimination against American Whites and more affirmative action opportunities for blacks Browns tans and yellows.

    Two different populations, two different goals.

    I’m pretty sure Indians and East Asians don’t benefit any from affirmative action policies, and there is a good chance that we are hurt more than white Americans by such practices.

    I don’t get why same white people who claim to be discriminated by Affirmative Action policies do not recognize the fact that Asians are hurt even more by such policies.

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    East Asians benefit from affirmative action loans from the Small Business Administration and racial set asides in government contracting. In fact Indians successfully lobbied the Reagan Administration to be reclassified as Asians in 1982 for this reason.

    Otherwise you are correct. East Asians are in particular discriminated against in Ivy League admissions, where their enrollment has been capped at about one quarter since 1990 despite doubling as a share of the college-aged population since then and even improving their lead over whites in SAT scores.

    White people do recognize and bring this up. It's extensively documented by white advocates, and in fact Jeff Sessions is currently doing something about it.
    , @Anon
    Although Indians are caucasians, they are brown. So they come under the affirmative action classification of
    “diverse Caucasians”

    Affirmative action is a ladder. Whites are the lowest. Then Asians Then Hispanics then blacks.

    So Asians are discriminated against in favor of Hispanics and blacks.

    But Whites are discriminated against in favor of Asians, Hispanics and blacks.

    A decades ago I asked the son of a Silicon Valley tech company owner what his father did about affirmative action?
    He answered that the company hired Chinese and Japanese so the government was satisfied and didn’t insist they hire blacks.

    That was decades ago. The Chinese and Japanese they hired were native Californians whose families had been here for generations.

    That’s a big reason for the importation of Asians and Indians. The American government wanted to force companies to replace all the Whites with blacks.

    But the blacks were so incompetent the American government allowed the companies to replace the Whites with immigrant Asians and Indians.

    Blacks are number 1 in the affirmative action ladder. Asians are number 3 but Whites number 4.

    Soon blacks Asians and Indians might be replaced by White gays and transsexuals or self identified pedophiles or some other category.
    , @Thomm

    I’m pretty sure Indians and East Asians don’t benefit any from affirmative action policies, and there is a good chance that we are hurt more than white Americans by such practices.
     
    This is true. Both Sailer and Derbyshire have written about this at length.

    Remember that you will never convince White Trashionalists about these facts, because their entire sense of identity and being is predicated on assumptions that the success of Asians proves to be false.

    At the same time, remember that the bottom 20% of whites are so different from the other 80% that they are effectively a defective subrace. The other 80% of whites are delighted at the success of Asians and their 'Model Minority' status, as it proves that black failure is not the result of white oppression anymore.
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  212. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    I don't deny any of this.

    Still, we're not talking about an inferior race (blacks, hispanics), an alien race (Asians), or a hostile race (Jews).

    I think we can assimilate the Indians very well provided further immigration from India is largely cut off.

    Hispanics, Filipinos and the few Japanese are the most assimilated nonWhite groups.

    Of course many Hispanics are of White European , not American Indian descent. Even newly arrived Filipinos are very assimilated because they learned English in school and it was an American colony for about 50?? Years.

    Filipinos don’t even look for Filipino neighborhoods. It helps that they are mostly educated medical people.

    When Indians take over towns like Cupertino ca and Redmond wa they won’t assimilate.

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    A necessary condition of assimilation is limited numbers.

    The racial similarity of Indians to us suggests they will assimilate if immigration is cut off.

    Japanese today are highly assimilated, but their forebears attempted to assist downed IJN aviators on Oahu.

    Filipinos are an interesting case. They seem to really, really like us.
    , @Dagon Shield
    The Filipinos love everything westernized... the name of the country is after some dude from Spain and the faith is Catholicism and to top it of, they all have Hispanic last names... no wonder they assimilate quickly!
    , @anon

    Filipinos don’t even look for Filipino neighborhoods. It helps that they are mostly educated medical people.
     
    Are you Filipino here doing a little self-promotion like all the Indians? You are quite out of touch with what Filipinos are really like. If they were so successful they wouldn't be one of the few Asian groups that still benefit from Affirmative Action in CA, along with Cambodians and Hmongs. Back in the 90s when I used to live in SF, Daly City was a total Filipino ghetto and they are about as dumb and trashy as any other ghetto trash. Medical people my eye, unless you meant medical assistance. Filipino is another piss poor shithole that's only good in exporting people, in their case their women to be maids, prostitutes and mail order brides. Philippines is just another Southeast Asian shithole where the men live off the women while treating them like shit, like Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Indonesia.
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  213. KenH says:
    @DB Cooper
    Another thing about Indians that whites don't know about is that Indians may act cordial and submissive in the US but within their own neighborhood India is known by its neighbors as a bully. This is why India is hated by all its neighbors. Not that this is relevant in this discussion.

    That’s true. I once worked with a much older Indian who was very respectful and deferential as well as highly intelligent and capable. I remarked to someone (an older white guy) who had known and worked with him for over a decade about how nice he was. The guy had surprised look on his face and when I asked why he apparently disagreed based on his facial expression he said “Have you ever heard him talk to his family?”

    I replied that I hadn’t and he went on to tell me how he regularly screams, threatens and curses at his family members who work in his dry cleaning business in another city. And he also bragged about paying them less than minimum wage or sometimes not paying them at all.

    So, the supposedly “nice” Indian guy was using company time to manage his dry cleaning side businesses and tormenting his own family members who work for him. He had two very different faces and was careful not to let the ugly one show around most of the white faces.

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  214. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    You should be ashamed of yourself for engaging in ignorant bluster.

    You are even ignorant of the more or less accurate published records of average Indian IQ which is low despite the fact that millions in the upper castes have IQs significantly above the white American average. So "if Indians are so smart" is just fatuous.

    Far from Indian immigrants to the US dumping themselves on white America and demanding that "we" [*you* FFS!] provide "them a first world quality of life" they are probably amongst Mitt Romney's 47 per cent who, as taxpayers, actually pay their way. Are you? Could you be with your revealed cognitive limitations?

    Just checked the average Indian IQ. According to IQ-research-info it’s 82.

    82 is considered retarded.

    Stop bragging Thomm

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  215. utu says:

    NYT writer is absolutely right: Delhi is literally a shithole; but so is all of India

    https://www.firstpost.com/india/nyt-writer-absolutely-right-delhi-literally-shithole-india-2272904.html

    In his 1960 exploration of eastern mysticism, The Lotus and the Robot, Arthur Koestler compared the smell of Bombay to that of “a wet smelly diaper” wrapped around his head. Four years later, VS Naipaul was so revulsed about the filth in India that he wrote in an Area of Darkness that “Indians defecate everywhere” – beside the railway tracks, on the beaches, on the hills, on the riverbanks and on the streets. “They never look for cover,” he said with absolute disgust.

    India was smarter than Koestler and Naipaul — it promptly banned both the books.

    It’s remarkable that even after 50 years since Koestler and Naipaul refused to hold back their revulsion to the all-pervading filth in India, it still remains a humiliating truth that visitors find out the moment they set their foot in the country.

    In his recent overseas tour, Prime Minister Narendra Modi claimed that earlier Indians felt ashamed of being born in India, but now they feel proud. Do they? His point was political. He thought that the change of government in India makes its people proud. But in reality, Indians should still be ashamed because outsiders find their country too filthy to live in; the filth that has permeated every state of matter — solid, liquid, gas and perhaps even plasma. It doesn’t befit a modern nation that’s apparently raring to go.

    What Koestler and Naipaul wrote in the sixties and what Harris wrote in 2015 are not anecdotal, but are borne out by facts. According to WHO, India accounts for 90 percent of open defecation in South Asia and 59 percent of the practice in the world. It also accounts for more than twice the number of open defecations of the 18 countries that come after it in the WHO list.

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    People and dogs shit in public in the Big Apple... what's the big fucking deal? Until America is spotless, shut the fuck up and get back into your rathole!
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  216. Ju Ahn says:
    @Anon
    Seems as though you approve of job replacement for Americans but not the Dutch.

    There are millions of Americans with 110 to 120 IQs who could perfectly well be programmers. But they are not accepted into college because they are White.

    And every American employer is reluctant to hire White Americas because of severe affirmative action discrimination policies persecuted by numerous government agencies.

    Why bother hiring a White American when it will bring down all sorts of investigations and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines?

    Better to just avoid hiring Whites and avoid the investigations and fines.

    White people have easier time getting into college than Indians or East Asians. You are obviously clueless about the state of college admissions right now. In addition, young white men simply aren’t as attracted to industry in computer science or computer engineering as much as their passion for law or finance. So their culture is partly to blame for the lack of representation in certain tech industries.

    And every American employer is reluctant to hire White Americas because of severe affirmative action discrimination policies persecuted by numerous government agencies.

    Why bother hiring a White American when it will bring down all sorts of investigations and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines?

    Again, let me remind you that affirmative action policies favor Hispanics and African Americans NOT East Asians and Indians, but you might be too fixated on your extreme WN ideas about white genocide to believe this.

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    The Espenshade/Radford study found that rural white people are even more discriminated against in college admissions than East Asians. The secret is the "holistic admissions" approach. It turns out that belonging to organizations such as the Future Farmers of America or 4H greatly diminish odds of admission to elite universities.

    Here's an essay from Princeton discussing the study, which also notes the discrimination East Asians suffer: https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Pub_Minding%20the%20campus%20combined%20files.pdf

    Efforts are also specifically undertaken to increase Jewish enrollment in many universities, despite the collapse in Jewish academic achievement that Ron Unz documented.

    As an example take a look at Vanderbilt: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/06/09/vanderbilt-striving-to-recruit-jews/0a2fe14d-1061-4dba-bca6-71c9e6046b78/?utm_term=.ce1468689997

    Jews are wrongly counted as white in statistics.

    So the reality is that whites are more discriminated against than it appears in university admissions.

    Of course I'm not trying to get into some pissing match with you here. As far as I'm concerned nobody should go to college.
    , @Anon
    I wasn’t writing about college admissions, I wrote about HIRING.

    And why should an Asian immigrant get college admission over someone whose family has been in America for 3 or 4 hundred years?

    And why shouldn’t I care only about what happens to Whites? You only care about what happens to Koreans don’t you? You don’t care about other ethnic groups even fellow Asians.

    Face it, you are number 3 on the affirmative action ladder and the government mandates that lesser qualified Hispanics and blacks be admitted and hired before you.

    But you still hate Whites. So why should Whites like you?
    , @anon
    Whites are bailing out of Computer Science because no one likes to feel like a foreigner in his own country when he goes to work everyday, surrounded by people who speak heavily accented unintelligible Inglish and Chinglish. It's the same reason whites got out of restaurant work, construction, farm work. Spanish is a requirement in those jobs, not English. Whites are being squeezed out of jobs in both the high and low end of the employment landscape by Asians and Hispanics, because our traitorous employers prefer cheap compliant third world labor.
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  217. @Anon
    Hispanics, Filipinos and the few Japanese are the most assimilated nonWhite groups.

    Of course many Hispanics are of White European , not American Indian descent. Even newly arrived Filipinos are very assimilated because they learned English in school and it was an American colony for about 50?? Years.

    Filipinos don’t even look for Filipino neighborhoods. It helps that they are mostly educated medical people.

    When Indians take over towns like Cupertino ca and Redmond wa they won’t assimilate.

    A necessary condition of assimilation is limited numbers.

    The racial similarity of Indians to us suggests they will assimilate if immigration is cut off.

    Japanese today are highly assimilated, but their forebears attempted to assist downed IJN aviators on Oahu.

    Filipinos are an interesting case. They seem to really, really like us.

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    Steve Sailer thinks the Filipinos are the next Italian Americans... of course, he is out of his fucking gourd!
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  218. utu says:
    @Red Pill Indian
    It's painful because it's true. I'm going blue in the face trying to convince fellow Indians here in America that being raging Marxist leftists is not a good long term solution for being welcomed in America. Alas, they don't listen to me.

    Hence, why I've created the Red Pill Indian blog, to at least try to get out alt-right ideas from an Indian perspective rather than allowing the Indian cuckservatives and SJWs monopolize the discussion.

    Hopefully I can create a safe space for Indians to be frank and politically incorrect without the fanatically white supremacist anti-Indian crowd here at Unz, Amren, and Vdare shouting about toilets and rape.

    I've written extensively here about why the alt-right hates Indians:
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians.html
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/are-indians-just-conforming-to-leftism.html
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians-part-2.html

    On whether there can be some issues in common between the Indian right and the alt-right
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/is-hindutva-red-pilled.html

    Whether new genetic knowledge about India can rekindle camaraderie between Brahmins and the German far right
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/04/aryanism.html

    Anyway, I'm getting tired of the alt-right's whining about Indians. You guys have natural allies in Brahmins in India but because you are so insistent that white people invented everything and anything of value that Asians are beneath you. America and Europe are doomed by demographic replacement and India and China will emerge as new powers...

    Anyway, Hinduism is far more compatible with evolution and the idea of not all humans being equal than Christianity is, so Western religions are going to have a harder and harder time as science discovers more and more about human origins and the degree to which genetics influences us.

    Anyway, I’m getting tired of the alt-right’s whining about Indians. You guys have natural allies in Brahmins in India

    Thank you but no thank you. Stay in your country and make alliances with whoever you want. In the West you are not needed and not wanted. We can help you training some sanitary engineers to help you with defecation in India. You should concentrate on this problem. Try to make an alliance with running water and toilet paper. They are actually your friends.

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  219. @Ju Ahn
    I'm pretty sure Indians and East Asians don't benefit any from affirmative action policies, and there is a good chance that we are hurt more than white Americans by such practices.

    I don't get why same white people who claim to be discriminated by Affirmative Action policies do not recognize the fact that Asians are hurt even more by such policies.

    East Asians benefit from affirmative action loans from the Small Business Administration and racial set asides in government contracting. In fact Indians successfully lobbied the Reagan Administration to be reclassified as Asians in 1982 for this reason.

    Otherwise you are correct. East Asians are in particular discriminated against in Ivy League admissions, where their enrollment has been capped at about one quarter since 1990 despite doubling as a share of the college-aged population since then and even improving their lead over whites in SAT scores.

    White people do recognize and bring this up. It’s extensively documented by white advocates, and in fact Jeff Sessions is currently doing something about it.

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  220. Druid says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    This from a racist hateful Islamophobe like you? LOL!
     

    I am in favor of racism, hate, and Islamophobia.

    Racism is objectively correct, and everyone who is not a racist is wrong.

    Hate is a human right.

    Islam is a dark blot on the world which must be destroyed. Mecca should be obliterated with atomic fire, and that will cause all Mohammedans in the world to slump over.

    In the Red Pill Scum’s blog, this degenerate talks about how Blacks are not welcome in the family, but Whites, totally ok. Apparently many in his extended family have been “blessed” with white spouses. He seems quite pleased with the idea, and perhaps his boy will be groomed in that manner too… who knows maybe you could be a future in-law.

    And, this from a person whose country of origin is filled with “black” people, especially his Tamil area. Can you imagine the contempt he must have for his “brethren” when he is walking around his hometown? Racist scum like you may understand and find it acceptable, but others with a functioning moral compass will simply find it repulsive.
     

    Dark-skinned Indians are not blacks. Most are Dravidian caucasoids, and a few (typically in scheduled castes) are from Indian's archaic Australoid population.

    Blacks are African negroids, who are truly an inferior race and cursed.

    You keep using "racist" as an epithet, but in fact being a racist is good and correct. The only people who find it repulsive are people cowed by the post-Christian heresy that infects the West.

    You are probably not even white based on caring about this bizarre, trivial Indian issue which means you should even care about the term "racism".

    The Almighty One’s ways are truly mysterious. Those He as truly condemned appear to be blessed with much glory and wealth, and those He has truly blessed appear to be condemned with ignominy and poverty.

    The only true blessing is Paradise. No pagan polytheist human/animal worshipper and/or the godless, will ever enter that blessed place.
     

    Get bent loser.

    I bet you have dark skin which is why you got so mad. And likely a Mohammedan as well.

    Now I’m convinced you’re a phallus and rat worshipping dirty Indian!

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    And what do you worship? The almighty dollar, perhaps?
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  221. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    So you have some narrow technical specialty which apparently can be acquired without even Logic 101 or any grasp of statistics or probability. That's what enables you to form views about a country and people with more variety than the whole of Europe from acquaintance with three Indian engineers! And that's when you were going to Singapore to maintain your First World way of life. Why, btw, are so many Americans working outside America rather than staying at home to relieve your country's appalling problems like homelessness, bankruptcy by medical bill and decaying infrastructure?

    Homelessness in America is caused by lack of housing.

    Americans are homeless because all the low cost government housing goes to illegal Hispanic immigrants and elderly Chinese who came over to glom into our pension system.

    You can’t add millions of legal and illegal immigrants every year to existing housing without some people becoming homeless. And it’s the natives who have become homeless.

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  222. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Indians generally have a neutral or even positive impression of the H-man and don't know or care about the Jews.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Lu_Hitler_Marak

    Mahatma Ghandi started out his career by describing the many ways in which Indians are superior to negroes.

    Indians also aren't colored people in two ways:

    1 - They are not racially inferior
    2 - They are actually caucasoids

    Indians are also fellow victims of Mohammedan terrorism.

    There's quite a bit of common ground.

    There are of course still sticking points such as immigration (like all foreigners they think they have a human right to move here) and Christianity.

    Owing to the immigration issue we're not likely to get cooperation from them until we decisively close off immigration and make it clear that this is our country and we're going to keep it.

    Once that's made clear I think we can work with them.

    Indians generally have a neutral or even positive impression of the H-man and don’t know or care about the Jews.

    Sort of, not really though. Those in this thread who are actually Indians (or at least those who are South Indians) might get some fun out of this:

    Sorry I couldn’t get a version with subtitles; the title is the main funny thing here anyway.

    That politician you mentioned is a hick from the sticks where anything goes, really. You’ll also get a number of Indians and Ceylonese with names like Lenin or Stalin (I haven’t heard Mao, but I’m sure he’s out there). The Indians I’ve known don’t like Adolph, but they don’t have the weird view of him as some kind of supernatural demon common in the US.

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  223. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    West on the contrary is more individulazed society. The more successful couples are producing fewer kids. The only way to balance the aging population is to allow immigration. No matter what system you choose, few will game the system and few will not be happy but in a long run it is good for developed nation. Most people who migrate integrate over the time. If not the 1st generation then 2nd generation.
     
    Standard argument from The Economist, a Jew owned magazine that's never met an immigrant it didn't love. This is BS. High supply of cheap labor retards automation. What we need is more automation in the west, not more importation of cheap 3rd world labor, which is just a temporary fix, with permanent consequences. The more people we take in from the 3rd world, the quicker they'll turn us into a 3rd world country. People are not goods, they come with their own cultural baggage. And with the multiculturalists now encouraging each group to hold on to their language and culture, this will only further splinter the US into 200 countries, an ungovernable mess.

    If it didn’t cost so much to raise a middle class family in the US educated high IQ families would have more children .

    The major cost is housing. It’s immigrabts who have raised the cost of housing so high.

    High immigration equals high cost of housing equals high numbers of homeless equals fewer American children born because their mothers can’t any time off work.

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  224. Druid says:
    @anon

    More than anything, Hinduism is batshit craziness.
     
    Batshit crazy is pretty much the only word to describe a religion that worships over 33 million gods. Stupid libtards in America are the only ones putting these people on a pedastal and can't import enough of them. All over Asia, Indians are seen as criminals and chest thumping bullshit artists of the east. Never trust an Indian like you should never trust a Jew.

    My distant ancestors were northwest Indian You are right about bothe Indians and jews

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    What, you the new Pocahontas? Elizabeth Warren ain't gonna like you replacing her!
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  225. @Ju Ahn
    White people have easier time getting into college than Indians or East Asians. You are obviously clueless about the state of college admissions right now. In addition, young white men simply aren't as attracted to industry in computer science or computer engineering as much as their passion for law or finance. So their culture is partly to blame for the lack of representation in certain tech industries.

    And every American employer is reluctant to hire White Americas because of severe affirmative action discrimination policies persecuted by numerous government agencies.

    Why bother hiring a White American when it will bring down all sorts of investigations and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines?

     

    Again, let me remind you that affirmative action policies favor Hispanics and African Americans NOT East Asians and Indians, but you might be too fixated on your extreme WN ideas about white genocide to believe this.

    The Espenshade/Radford study found that rural white people are even more discriminated against in college admissions than East Asians. The secret is the “holistic admissions” approach. It turns out that belonging to organizations such as the Future Farmers of America or 4H greatly diminish odds of admission to elite universities.

    Here’s an essay from Princeton discussing the study, which also notes the discrimination East Asians suffer: https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Pub_Minding%20the%20campus%20combined%20files.pdf

    Efforts are also specifically undertaken to increase Jewish enrollment in many universities, despite the collapse in Jewish academic achievement that Ron Unz documented.

    As an example take a look at Vanderbilt: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/06/09/vanderbilt-striving-to-recruit-jews/0a2fe14d-1061-4dba-bca6-71c9e6046b78/?utm_term=.ce1468689997

    Jews are wrongly counted as white in statistics.

    So the reality is that whites are more discriminated against than it appears in university admissions.

    Of course I’m not trying to get into some pissing match with you here. As far as I’m concerned nobody should go to college.

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  226. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    A more common term is pink-haired SJWs.

    He's referring to obese, mentally ill, ugly, and "liberal" young women.

    Every fat girl with an odd hair color is a feminist, but thin girls who sport odd hair colors just really like drugs and sex.

    So you’re another 80 year old codger who disapproves of youthful fashions?

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    I'm a millennial.

    Not old yet but getting there.

    I disapprove of people making themselves ugly.
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  227. Anonymous[462] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Indians generally have a neutral or even positive impression of the H-man and don't know or care about the Jews.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Lu_Hitler_Marak

    Mahatma Ghandi started out his career by describing the many ways in which Indians are superior to negroes.

    Indians also aren't colored people in two ways:

    1 - They are not racially inferior
    2 - They are actually caucasoids

    Indians are also fellow victims of Mohammedan terrorism.

    There's quite a bit of common ground.

    There are of course still sticking points such as immigration (like all foreigners they think they have a human right to move here) and Christianity.

    Owing to the immigration issue we're not likely to get cooperation from them until we decisively close off immigration and make it clear that this is our country and we're going to keep it.

    Once that's made clear I think we can work with them.

    Actually, Indians are inferior to most of black Africa. They have a national IQ of 81 which is indeed lower than most blacks.

    If you see how they view rape in India you will know what I mean.

    The top of India has a lot of smart people, but these people are mainly SJW types that we have too much of anyway.

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    The Indians we're discussing here are from the higher castes. I've seen their average IQ estimated as 110, which makes sense if you consider their income and wealth in the USA and Britain.

    The lower castes are definitely dumb, but their IQ is also depressed by malnutrition.

    The black average in Africa is far below 81--you're thinking of American blacks (who are one-fifth white).
    , @Dagon Shield
    Don't know about your dubious IQ stats but as to the rape... if only that had a religious culture that allowed promiscuity like here in America, where they put it out like there is no tomorrow... hos here could teach the world a thing or two about whoring!
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  228. Druid says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    The same reason many non-whites are in our countries now. Money.

    South Africa, by the way, was colonized by whites and blacks at roughly the same time. The indigenous population consisted of capoids.

    There were no blacks at all in the Cape when the Dutch arrived, only capoids (whom the Dutch called hottentots). The blacks entered through Natal.

    Although, once again, it doesn't matter. The fundamental organizing principle of classical international law (not the pozzed post-1945 shitfest we have now) is the right of conquest.

    The whites beat the blacks in battle decisively (The Battle of Blood River, later the Anglo-Zulu War) and therefore earned the right to rule.

    And it's not like China was always its present size. The Han race and territory have expanded dramatically. Just not as much as whites expanded geographically.

    Im from South Africa originally and you’re full of shit. That’s the crap the whites tried to sell, like the Jews, “a land without people for a people without land “. You’re a right winged nut job!

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    Your username "Druid" suggests you are white.

    This means you are a traitor.

    You should be working to take back your country from the blacks, not fighting against allies across the water.

    EDIT: Based on your commenting history, I now see you're an Indian--of a lower caste. Perhaps this explains your poor writing skills.

    Bizarrely you picked the name "Druid", despite having no connection to the Celts.

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  229. Druid says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    Indians generally have a neutral or even positive impression of the H-man and don't know or care about the Jews.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Lu_Hitler_Marak

    Mahatma Ghandi started out his career by describing the many ways in which Indians are superior to negroes.

    Indians also aren't colored people in two ways:

    1 - They are not racially inferior
    2 - They are actually caucasoids

    Indians are also fellow victims of Mohammedan terrorism.

    There's quite a bit of common ground.

    There are of course still sticking points such as immigration (like all foreigners they think they have a human right to move here) and Christianity.

    Owing to the immigration issue we're not likely to get cooperation from them until we decisively close off immigration and make it clear that this is our country and we're going to keep it.

    Once that's made clear I think we can work with them.

    In the BBC documentary a few years ago, they called the moghul time in India it’s golden age, shithead!

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    The Hindus have a different view of the Muslim invasions.
    , @Thorfinnsson
    A golden age for the Mohammedan invaders.

    Actual Indians lament how many of their temples were destroyed and their books burned.
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  230. nsa says:

    Much can be learned from the attempted Indian takeover of the Fiji Islands. The vile Brits ran in show in the early 1900s and imported lots of Indian laborers to work on their plantations. Most the Indians stayed, prospered and proliferated until they reached about 40% of the population. this generated considerable resentment among the native Fiji islander population. In 1987, a native Fijian supported by the entire Indo-Fijian community won a general election and installed Fiji’s first majority Indian government. It took less than a month for the indigenous Fijians to rise up and cast (sorry for the pun) out the Indians. The coup leader installed himself as Generalissimo and essentially disenfranchised all the Indians. Maybe the Eastsiders of Seattle can contact the Generalissimo for a few pointers on dealing with imported Indians……………

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    George Speight, the coup leader in 2000, had the Aussie support... the half breed didn't know that they were going to use that pig... Cracka don't give succor not for nothing!
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  231. @Red Pill Indian
    It's painful because it's true. I'm going blue in the face trying to convince fellow Indians here in America that being raging Marxist leftists is not a good long term solution for being welcomed in America. Alas, they don't listen to me.

    Hence, why I've created the Red Pill Indian blog, to at least try to get out alt-right ideas from an Indian perspective rather than allowing the Indian cuckservatives and SJWs monopolize the discussion.

    Hopefully I can create a safe space for Indians to be frank and politically incorrect without the fanatically white supremacist anti-Indian crowd here at Unz, Amren, and Vdare shouting about toilets and rape.

    I've written extensively here about why the alt-right hates Indians:
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians.html
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/are-indians-just-conforming-to-leftism.html
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-does-alt-right-hate-indians-part-2.html

    On whether there can be some issues in common between the Indian right and the alt-right
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/03/is-hindutva-red-pilled.html

    Whether new genetic knowledge about India can rekindle camaraderie between Brahmins and the German far right
    http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/04/aryanism.html

    Anyway, I'm getting tired of the alt-right's whining about Indians. You guys have natural allies in Brahmins in India but because you are so insistent that white people invented everything and anything of value that Asians are beneath you. America and Europe are doomed by demographic replacement and India and China will emerge as new powers...

    Anyway, Hinduism is far more compatible with evolution and the idea of not all humans being equal than Christianity is, so Western religions are going to have a harder and harder time as science discovers more and more about human origins and the degree to which genetics influences us.

    I am alt-right and do not hate Indians. I will visit your blog.

    I am opposed to Indians moving to our countries. Unlike many in the thread, I don’t think we should expel the ones already here (maybe in Europe–there’s something particularly offensive about non-whites in Europe).

    This is not based on the characteristics of Indians themselves, but simply that you are not us. Even if we are very, very distant cousins.

    Whites and Indians have a lot of shared challenges and problems. Whites and Indians tend to get along better than either group does with East Asians (let alone Mohammedans).

    We can work together, but we shouldn’t live together.

    Incidentally I have a joint venture in Gujarat and as such have a lot of experience with Indians. I have an Indian intern (whom I am forcing to go home in the future), and I consider the top executives at the joint venture to be personal friends.

    Christianity is not incompatible with the alt right despite what some think. Christians are commanded to make disciples of all nations, not to abolish all nations.

    The words of Kaiser Wilhelm II when he entered Jerusalem come to mind:

    What the German people became, we became under Christ.

    We cannot and should not abandon Christ.

    Likewise you Indians should cherish and nurture Hinduism.

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    That's mighty white of you to let the ones here already stay... I would be keen to know, how you and yours would get rid of them if you decided to in the 21st Century... a pisser gets peeed on to!
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  232. M. Thomas says:
    @DB Cooper
    If you want to get some reality, here is the reality. I have not seen a single programming competition that shows Indians perform at a level that is considered even remotely good compare to their counterparts in other countries. In fact Indians performance are VERY bad. Here is a typical example

    https://www.computerworld.com/article/2525109/app-development/china-dominates-nsa-backed-coding-contest.html

    Here is an excerpt:

    "Programmers from China and Russia have dominated an international competition on everything from writing algorithms to designing components.
    Whether the outcome of this competition is another sign that math and science education in the U.S. needs improvement may spur debate. But the fact remains: Of 70 finalists, 20 were from China, 10 from Russia and two from the U.S.
    About 4,200 people participated in the U.S. National Security Agency-supported challenge. The NSA has been sponsoring the program for a number of years because of its interest in hiring people with advanced skills.
    Participants in the contest, which was open to anyone -- from student to professional -- and finished with 120 competitors from around the world, went through a process of elimination that finished this month in Las Vegas.
    China's showing in the finals was also helped by the sheer volume of its numbers, 894. India followed at 705, but none of its programmers were finalists. Russia had 380 participants; the United States, 234; Poland, 214; Egypt, 145; and Ukraine, 128, among others.
    Of the total number of contestants, 93% were male, and 84% were aged between 18 and 24. "


    US programmers are WAY BETTER than the Indian programmers. And you have the gall to lecture the US on education.

    Programming competitions have absolutely nothing to do with hiring in the real world.

    Also, the assertion that US programmers are way better than Indian programmers is bizarre and a bit deranged.

    American education is in the toilet. The whole world knows this.

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    "Programming competitions have absolutely nothing to do with hiring in the real world. "

    You are right. In the real world Indians in the US only hire Indians regardless of how unqualified the candidates are. The criteria is not on skills but being Indians. These are scam artists that use fake degrees to leech off successful companies. Here is a list of companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor. This list was compiled many years ago, I am sure it is much longer now.

    Companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor

    Adaptec - Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
    AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
    AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
    Apple - R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
    Australia's National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
    Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
    Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
    Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
    Caymas - Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
    Caterpillar misses earnings a mere 4 months after outsourcing to India, Inc.
    Circuit City - Outsourced all IT to Indian-run IBM and went bankrupt shortly thereafter.
    ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
    Computer Associates - Former CEO Sanjay Kumar, an Indian national, sentenced to 12 years in federal prison for accounting fraud.
    Deloitte - 2010 - this Indian-packed consulting company is being sued under RICO fraud charges by Marin Country, California for a failed solution.
    Dell - call center (closed in India)
    Delta call centers (closed in India)
    Fannie Mae - Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty and sent to prison.
    GM - Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
    HP - Got out of the PC hardware business in 2011 and can't compete with Apple's tablets. HP was taken over by Indians and Chinese in 2001. So much for 'Asian' talent!
    HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
    Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
    JetStar Airways computer failure brings down Christchurch airport on 9/17/11. JetStar is owned by Quantas - which is know to have outsourced to India, Inc.
    Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
    Medicare - Defrauded by Indian national doctor Arun Sharma & wife in the U.S.
    Microsoft - Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it's lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
    MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
    MyNines - A startup founded and run by Indian national Apar Kothari went belly up after throwing millions of America's VC $ down the drain.
    PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
    PepsiCo - Slides from #1 to #3 during Indian CEO Indra Nooyi' watch.
    Polycom - Former senior executive Sunil Bhalla charged with insider trading.
    Qantas - See AirBus above
    Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
    Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
    SAP - Same as Deloitte above in 2010.
    Singapore airlines (IT functions taken over in 2009 by TCS, website trashed in August, 2011)
    Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
    State of Indiana $867 million FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
    State of Texas failed IBM project.
    Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, had to be sold off to Oracle).
    UK's NHS outsourced numerous jobs including health records to India in mid-2000 resulting in $26 billion over budget.
    Union Bank of California - Cancelled Finacle project run by India's InfoSys in 2011.
    United - call center (closed in India)
    Victorian Order of Nurses, Canada (Payroll system screwed up by SAP/IBM in mid-2011)
    Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
    World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).

    I could post the whole list here but I don't want to crash any servers.
    , @anon

    American education is in the toilet. The whole world knows this.
     
    Must be why all the "brilliant" Chinese and Indians are dying to send their kids to our schools.
    , @Medvedev

    by smart people capable of passing a software engineering technical interview. It just so happened most of them are Indian
     

    Programming competitions have absolutely nothing to do with hiring in the real world.
     
    Blatant lie. Programming competitions are highly-focused on algorithms and data structure problems. The same problems they ask during interview process*. Only interview problems are a lot simpler and easier, basically high-school level for many Russians or Chinese.

    * - interview process for entry-level positions, positions they offer many H-1B workers at first, almost entirely consists of simple algo/data structure problems.
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  233. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ju Ahn
    I'm pretty sure Indians and East Asians don't benefit any from affirmative action policies, and there is a good chance that we are hurt more than white Americans by such practices.

    I don't get why same white people who claim to be discriminated by Affirmative Action policies do not recognize the fact that Asians are hurt even more by such policies.

    Although Indians are caucasians, they are brown. So they come under the affirmative action classification of
    “diverse Caucasians”

    Affirmative action is a ladder. Whites are the lowest. Then Asians Then Hispanics then blacks.

    So Asians are discriminated against in favor of Hispanics and blacks.

    But Whites are discriminated against in favor of Asians, Hispanics and blacks.

    A decades ago I asked the son of a Silicon Valley tech company owner what his father did about affirmative action?
    He answered that the company hired Chinese and Japanese so the government was satisfied and didn’t insist they hire blacks.

    That was decades ago. The Chinese and Japanese they hired were native Californians whose families had been here for generations.

    That’s a big reason for the importation of Asians and Indians. The American government wanted to force companies to replace all the Whites with blacks.

    But the blacks were so incompetent the American government allowed the companies to replace the Whites with immigrant Asians and Indians.

    Blacks are number 1 in the affirmative action ladder. Asians are number 3 but Whites number 4.

    Soon blacks Asians and Indians might be replaced by White gays and transsexuals or self identified pedophiles or some other category.

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  234. Shocking and amazing —-

    Immigrating people before assimilating the ones we have is damaging —

    Immigrating almost everyone from anywhere else imports people who favor government intervention —

    Shocking and amazing —-

    Indians tend to be democrats or pro-intervention — shocking

    maybe its just my low IQ, but seems and obvious consequence of our current immigration policy

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    Shocking and amazing —-

    No, It's just you!
    , @EliteCommInc.
    Ha!
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  235. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ju Ahn
    White people have easier time getting into college than Indians or East Asians. You are obviously clueless about the state of college admissions right now. In addition, young white men simply aren't as attracted to industry in computer science or computer engineering as much as their passion for law or finance. So their culture is partly to blame for the lack of representation in certain tech industries.

    And every American employer is reluctant to hire White Americas because of severe affirmative action discrimination policies persecuted by numerous government agencies.

    Why bother hiring a White American when it will bring down all sorts of investigations and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines?

     

    Again, let me remind you that affirmative action policies favor Hispanics and African Americans NOT East Asians and Indians, but you might be too fixated on your extreme WN ideas about white genocide to believe this.

    I wasn’t writing about college admissions, I wrote about HIRING.

    And why should an Asian immigrant get college admission over someone whose family has been in America for 3 or 4 hundred years?

    And why shouldn’t I care only about what happens to Whites? You only care about what happens to Koreans don’t you? You don’t care about other ethnic groups even fellow Asians.

    Face it, you are number 3 on the affirmative action ladder and the government mandates that lesser qualified Hispanics and blacks be admitted and hired before you.

    But you still hate Whites. So why should Whites like you?

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    Let's not kid ourselves. Most white people in the U.S. aren't descendants of original settlers of America back in the formative stages (3-400 years). You just happen to belong in the same racial group as them and are also just benefiting off of their accomplishments. And contrary to your beliefs, I find that white people to be generally pleasant people to be around and faced only little racist behaviors here (though I would not say none). However, I do not like WNs since they have wild ideas about white genocide and would not refrain from committing Asian genocide if they had the power to do so.
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  236. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Druid
    In the BBC documentary a few years ago, they called the moghul time in India it's golden age, shithead!

    The Hindus have a different view of the Muslim invasions.

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  237. SOL says:
    @Ju Ahn
    I don't think Asian Americans are too liberal. However, due to WN and alt-righter threat of Asian genocide in western countries many of us might feel compelled to vote democrats. After all, we're simply following western principle of putting ourselves and our family over our loyalty to the government.

    In addition, part of the reason why there are so many Asian tech workers in U.S. is because they're actually that much better than average Europeans in the U.S. Let us take results from a United States of America Mathematical Olympiad (USAMO).

    YEAR _____ USAMO _____ MOSP _____ WINNERS(TOP 12) ____ IMO
    2006 _____ 204/404 _____ 21/54 _________ 8/12 ____________ 3/6
    2007 _____ 226/459 _____ 24/55 _________ 5/12 ____________ 3/6
    2008 _____ 258/465 _____ 29/56 _________ 4/12 ____________ 1/6
     
    East Asian #/Total #

    https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/790609-do-elite-colleges-discriminate-against-asian-students-p50.html

    According to USAMO results over the years, East Asians comprise about 50% of America's best and brightest in the subject of mathematics compare to their 2-3% representation over entire population. So, they're over represented 20 times more than where they should be. This isn't far from Indian American (16 times) performance with Microsoft hirings. Obviously, you cannot compare this data vs securing jobs in tech companies, but you WNs grossly overestimate white population's performance in the U.S.

    You WNs claim that Indians and Chinese send their best and brightest to the U.S. So, Why are you surprised when these same people outperform average Americans?

    “However, due to WN and alt-righter threat of Asian genocide in western countries many of us might feel compelled to vote democrats.”

    Or you could just leave. Because with that sort of entitled attitude, you will get what’s coming.

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    Lock, loaded and ready to go, is that right?
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  238. DB Cooper says:
    @M. Thomas
    Programming competitions have absolutely nothing to do with hiring in the real world.

    Also, the assertion that US programmers are way better than Indian programmers is bizarre and a bit deranged.

    American education is in the toilet. The whole world knows this.

    “Programming competitions have absolutely nothing to do with hiring in the real world. ”

    You are right. In the real world Indians in the US only hire Indians regardless of how unqualified the candidates are. The criteria is not on skills but being Indians. These are scam artists that use fake degrees to leech off successful companies. Here is a list of companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor. This list was compiled many years ago, I am sure it is much longer now.

    Companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor

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    Adaptec – Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
    AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
    AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
    Apple – R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
    Australia’s National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
    Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
    Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
    Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
    Caymas – Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
    Caterpillar misses earnings a mere 4 months after outsourcing to India, Inc.
    Circuit City – Outsourced all IT to Indian-run IBM and went bankrupt shortly thereafter.
    ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
    Computer Associates – Former CEO Sanjay Kumar, an Indian national, sentenced to 12 years in federal prison for accounting fraud.
    Deloitte – 2010 – this Indian-packed consulting company is being sued under RICO fraud charges by Marin Country, California for a failed solution.
    Dell – call center (closed in India)
    Delta call centers (closed in India)
    Fannie Mae – Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty and sent to prison.
    GM – Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
    HP – Got out of the PC hardware business in 2011 and can’t compete with Apple’s tablets. HP was taken over by Indians and Chinese in 2001. So much for ‘Asian’ talent!
    HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
    Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
    JetStar Airways computer failure brings down Christchurch airport on 9/17/11. JetStar is owned by Quantas – which is know to have outsourced to India, Inc.
    Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
    Medicare – Defrauded by Indian national doctor Arun Sharma & wife in the U.S.
    Microsoft – Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it’s lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
    MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
    MyNines – A startup founded and run by Indian national Apar Kothari went belly up after throwing millions of America’s VC $ down the drain.
    PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
    PepsiCo – Slides from #1 to #3 during Indian CEO Indra Nooyi’ watch.
    Polycom – Former senior executive Sunil Bhalla charged with insider trading.
    Qantas – See AirBus above
    Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
    Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
    SAP – Same as Deloitte above in 2010.
    Singapore airlines (IT functions taken over in 2009 by TCS, website trashed in August, 2011)
    Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
    State of Indiana $867 million FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
    State of Texas failed IBM project.
    Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, had to be sold off to Oracle).
    UK’s NHS outsourced numerous jobs including health records to India in mid-2000 resulting in $26 billion over budget.
    Union Bank of California – Cancelled Finacle project run by India’s InfoSys in 2011.
    United – call center (closed in India)
    Victorian Order of Nurses, Canada (Payroll system screwed up by SAP/IBM in mid-2011)
    Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
    World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).

    I could post the whole list here but I don’t want to crash any servers.

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    DB, are you a chinaman?
    , @M. Thomas
    Wow. Your ignorance of the world of business is almost as frightening as your racism.
    , @TT
    DB, since you have broadband, you should search and paste what malla & i had previously exposed in last India article :

    All India IT giants are complaining on Indians cheat on resume & poor programming, poor education, India Health minister lamenting rampant fake medical Drs and nearly all are no better than a dumb.

    T. Thomas is a Indian selling snake oil from his comments.
    , @anon
    That list is quite a puncture to the Indian ego. They like to think of themselves as "best and brightest", "cream of the crop". More like Best and Brightest in scamming, Cream of the Crop in bullshitting.
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  239. @Anon
    So you’re another 80 year old codger who disapproves of youthful fashions?

    I’m a millennial.

    Not old yet but getting there.

    I disapprove of people making themselves ugly.

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  240. Ju Ahn says:

    You are clueless obviously. I’ve heard of and even known some East Asians who scored perfect 2400 on SAT yet denied admissions to elite universities such as HYP and others. It also happens to some white people but probably in lower numbers as I do not hear of many.

    Being African American instead of white is worth an average
    of 230 additional SAT points on a 1600-point scale, but recruited athletes
    reap an advantage equivalent to 200 SAT points. Other things equal, Hispanic
    applicants gain the equivalent of 185 points, which is only slightly more
    than the legacy advantage, which is worth 160 points. Coming from an Asian
    background, however, is comparable to the loss of 50 SAT points.

    https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/files/webAdmission%20Preferences%20Espenshade%20Chung%20Walling%20Dec%202004.pdf

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    Use the reply button.

    I assume you are replying to me.

    I'm well aware of the SAT figures.

    The point made in the study I referenced is that colleges employ their "holistic" admissions to enforce additional discrimination against rural and working class whites.

    Like I said, not a pissing contest. Well aware East Asians are heavily discriminated against as well.

    White people are less college-obsessed than Asians which is one reason you don't hear about it. I did not attend at all for instance, neither did my father. My brother however went to an Ivy League school (Brown), and my grandfathers attended the military and naval academies of Sweden. My brother actually says that going to Brown was the biggest mistake of his life.
    , @Anon
    Why are you complaining about affirmative action? It has been the law of the land since 1968, probably long before you were born.

    Why did you or your parents immigrate to a country where Asians are number 3 on the affirmative action ladder?

    Affirmative action is ferociously enforced by several federal agencies as well as hundreds of state county and city agencies.

    Thousands of attorneys hover around affirmative action as well. They are always prepared to sue if a black who reads at 3rd grade level fails the state teachers exams.

    That’s the country you or your parents moved to. So suck it up the way Whites have had to do for 50 years.

    After all, as 3rd on the affirmative action ladder you are above the 60 or so percent of the population that is Whites.

    Don’t like it??? Go back home where you won’t be below blacks and Hispanics on the affirmative action ladder

    Welcome to America, land of racial discrimination against Asians and Whites.

    Don’t like being discriminated against? Go home instead of voting democrat as Asians do.

    In 1996 White Californians voted into law proposition 209. It outlawed affirmative action in all California government jobs contracting and admissions into California state colleges.

    Asians voted something like 70 percent against prop 209. They voted with the Indians blacks and Hispanics in favor of affirmative action.

    The California state universities and colleges obeyed prop 209 for about 2 years.

    Then the admissions minions of Satan on earth came up with a way of ignoring test scores and GPAs.

    It was holistic admissions. Essentially it’s the essays they admit students on.

    Usually there are 2 essays. One is the poor poor pitiful me essay. The other is why I want to get a degree.

    For poor poor pitiful me write how poor deprived unfortunate and miserable you and your family are. Claim you were sex molested and beaten. Asians should always mention that mean old parents made you work in the restaurant or dry cleaners from 3 pm to 3 am every day.

    Just make up any old fantasy.

    The goals after graduation essay is simple. You want to use your degree to overthrow the evil capitalist system and fight racism and anti gay transsexual ism. You will fight fight for transsexual and gay rights.

    Whites realized long ago that SATS and GPAs mean nothing in college admissions. All that matters are the essays.

    Actually, they don’t care much about the essays. They just look at the race box. If you check Black it’s 100 percent you will get in. Check Hispanic and it’s 98 percent chance you’ll get in.

    You or your parents CHOSE to come to a country where you are discriminated against in favor of blacks and Hispanics.

    You can always go home. white Americans are stuck as we descend into the unemployable untouchables destined for extinction.

    Something I always tell liberal Jews who love affirmative action because it damages the White goyim.

    The very first law Hitler ordered against Jews was affirmative action discrimination against Jews.

    If Whites have to put up with affirmative action, so can Asian immigrants and their children.

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  241. @Anonymous
    Actually, Indians are inferior to most of black Africa. They have a national IQ of 81 which is indeed lower than most blacks.

    If you see how they view rape in India you will know what I mean.

    The top of India has a lot of smart people, but these people are mainly SJW types that we have too much of anyway.

    The Indians we’re discussing here are from the higher castes. I’ve seen their average IQ estimated as 110, which makes sense if you consider their income and wealth in the USA and Britain.

    The lower castes are definitely dumb, but their IQ is also depressed by malnutrition.

    The black average in Africa is far below 81–you’re thinking of American blacks (who are one-fifth white).

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    Total nonsense.

    As I already mentioned, high IQ Indians are the worst. Even worse than the low IQ Indians because they are such SJW types.

    These are the people the Jewish overlords are importing as middle managers to their empires because they are servile and will do as they are told.

    The lower IQ Indians would get a boost with better nutrition, but let's be real. The boost would likely be minor at best.

    North Koreans still have a higher IQ despite being in greater poverty. And there are parts of Africa that still face mass malnutrition. It's not like these people are going to suddenly be smart once they get some more food.
    , @anon
    You are so clearly an Indian, the alter-ego of Thomm.
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  242. @Druid
    Im from South Africa originally and you're full of shit. That's the crap the whites tried to sell, like the Jews, "a land without people for a people without land ". You're a right winged nut job!

    Your username “Druid” suggests you are white.

    This means you are a traitor.

    You should be working to take back your country from the blacks, not fighting against allies across the water.

    EDIT: Based on your commenting history, I now see you’re an Indian–of a lower caste. Perhaps this explains your poor writing skills.

    Bizarrely you picked the name “Druid”, despite having no connection to the Celts.

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  243. @Druid
    In the BBC documentary a few years ago, they called the moghul time in India it's golden age, shithead!

    A golden age for the Mohammedan invaders.

    Actual Indians lament how many of their temples were destroyed and their books burned.

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  244. @Druid
    Brahmin scum!

    No brahmins, no Hinduism; no ha cohens, no Judaism; no druids priesthood, no Celtic culture…

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  245. Alfa158 says:

    This goes way beyond just Indians or just Asians in general, or just brown immigrants, it’s an immigration issue period.I used to work in high tech companies, and some of the immigrants were White Europeans. If you somehow replaced all those brown immigrants with Native Swedish, German, English, Italian or French immigrants you would get essentially the same political outcomes.

    The classical American liberal ideas that made Republicans or Libertarians are a hothouse crop that grew in the peculiar environment of the US up to the 20th century. English people came to an underdeveloped land and built farms and small towns in the wilderness. They brought their Enlightment era ideas of individualism and rationality and in the new country evolved them into the classical American idea of natural rights, limited government and self-reliance.

    These ideas are not as highly regarded outside the heritage USA. Generally, rights are not seen as inalienable rights given by God and inherent to the individual, but licenses granted by the government when they make society work better, and revocable if they don’t. Democracy is not a way of creating a neutral and fair way of serving everyone neutrally, but an arena where your group fights tooth and nail for the largest share of the schmundo they can manage to grab. When your side wins an election, it’s not; “well we’re all Americans no hard feelings, let’s all work together”, but “ haha, sucks to be you, party time for us”.

    I was an immigrant who came over young and a long time ago when it wasn’t a flood and there was an incentive to assimilate. I became a Republican then a Libertarian, and am now going over the cliff to the alt-right. The conditions for immigrants changed after 1965. The numbers and dominant attitudes on assimilation made it obsolete. If you recorded to many immigrants today one of the old Republican chestnuts about individualism, they would look at you like you were barking mad.
    “I want a government that will give me the freedom to succeed or fail on my own”. “What, why would I want a government that would do that? I want one that that will make sure I succeed and take care of me if I fail”.
    “The government with the power to give you everything also has the power to take everything away”. “Okay, so we need to make sure we vote for leaders to run it who only give us everything.”
    “I have the right to own guns”. “No you don’t, they’re dangerous so unless you can prove you need one you can’t have it”.
    “Freedom of speech includes the right to be wrong”. “That’s stupid, why should anyone have the right to be wrong, how can they be right if they’re wrong? If someone is wrong, they need to be shut up”.
    “I may disagree with what you say but will fight to the death for your right to say it”. “Hah, good luck getting that from me, loser”.

    Based on the immigrants I worked with in my career, if you replaced all those Indians with native Swedes the only thing that would change is that you would have better looking left-wing immigrants.

    Once ye olde USA went open borders it was doomed. Everyone welcome to a California coming soon to your neighborhood. Hope you enjoy it and it works out somehow.

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    Very good comment. I'm assuming that you are quite old (apologies for being overly blunt), and will not have to deal with the future. It looks quite bleak for young white people such as myself.

    I would love to immigrate to the Republican, free USA that you are describing. Unfortunately I feel that this is disappearing and may in fact be better off in my own country.

    God bless.
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  246. Mark Presco says: • Website
    @Ju Ahn
    If white people are smart, contented to stay in their own borders. Why did they go around the world demanding people to trade with them? It was European nations who begged (in the 15-1600s) than demanded ( in 18-1900s when they gained more power) to trade with Asian countries.

    But you WNs obviously have stunted memories and history lessons, so it's normal not to expect civil and logical discussions with you guys.

    Why are white people in South Africa? It's predominantly an African country. Why are white people still living in overseas? Just Answer that. Why are they there?

    Ju Ahn

    First let me clear up some misconceptions you have about South Africa. Whites, specifically Boers (Dutch farmers) did not steal land from Africans. They settled sparsely populated land, much of it marginal, in the southwest. At roughly the same time several black tribes settled in the northeast, numbering no more than 5 million.

    As whites developed an economy and jobs, migrants from all over Africa flooded into the southwest, exploding the population to over 50 million. They used democracy to seize control and then voted themselves a license to steal the land they never had a claim to.

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/truth-lies-south-african-history-blacks-indigenous-arrived-kobus-jfk/

    Whites are beginning to realize that this will be the fate of all white cultures unless we stop it. We do not intend to become minorities to hostile invaders.

    Off topic, do you have a way to get the word out that pictures from 1967 South Korea are available here:

    http://korea1967.blogspot.com/

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  247. @Thorfinnsson
    I am alt-right and do not hate Indians. I will visit your blog.

    I am opposed to Indians moving to our countries. Unlike many in the thread, I don't think we should expel the ones already here (maybe in Europe--there's something particularly offensive about non-whites in Europe).

    This is not based on the characteristics of Indians themselves, but simply that you are not us. Even if we are very, very distant cousins.

    Whites and Indians have a lot of shared challenges and problems. Whites and Indians tend to get along better than either group does with East Asians (let alone Mohammedans).

    We can work together, but we shouldn't live together.

    Incidentally I have a joint venture in Gujarat and as such have a lot of experience with Indians. I have an Indian intern (whom I am forcing to go home in the future), and I consider the top executives at the joint venture to be personal friends.

    Christianity is not incompatible with the alt right despite what some think. Christians are commanded to make disciples of all nations, not to abolish all nations.

    The words of Kaiser Wilhelm II when he entered Jerusalem come to mind:


    What the German people became, we became under Christ.
     
    We cannot and should not abandon Christ.

    Likewise you Indians should cherish and nurture Hinduism.

    That’s mighty white of you to let the ones here already stay… I would be keen to know, how you and yours would get rid of them if you decided to in the 21st Century… a pisser gets peeed on to!

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  248. @Anonymous
    Actually, Indians are inferior to most of black Africa. They have a national IQ of 81 which is indeed lower than most blacks.

    If you see how they view rape in India you will know what I mean.

    The top of India has a lot of smart people, but these people are mainly SJW types that we have too much of anyway.

    Don’t know about your dubious IQ stats but as to the rape… if only that had a religious culture that allowed promiscuity like here in America, where they put it out like there is no tomorrow… hos here could teach the world a thing or two about whoring!

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    The IQ stats are not dubious. They have been well tested and are fact.

    Also, there is nothing wrong with people having consensual sex like they do here in the west. It is in India where you see the most barbaric rape stories because Indians are still a primitive people who believe in a caste system.

    No where else are people so rapey and see nothing wrong with rapeing a lower caste girl.
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  249. @DB Cooper
    "Programming competitions have absolutely nothing to do with hiring in the real world. "

    You are right. In the real world Indians in the US only hire Indians regardless of how unqualified the candidates are. The criteria is not on skills but being Indians. These are scam artists that use fake degrees to leech off successful companies. Here is a list of companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor. This list was compiled many years ago, I am sure it is much longer now.

    Companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor

    Adaptec - Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
    AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
    AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
    Apple - R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
    Australia's National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
    Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
    Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
    Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
    Caymas - Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
    Caterpillar misses earnings a mere 4 months after outsourcing to India, Inc.
    Circuit City - Outsourced all IT to Indian-run IBM and went bankrupt shortly thereafter.
    ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
    Computer Associates - Former CEO Sanjay Kumar, an Indian national, sentenced to 12 years in federal prison for accounting fraud.
    Deloitte - 2010 - this Indian-packed consulting company is being sued under RICO fraud charges by Marin Country, California for a failed solution.
    Dell - call center (closed in India)
    Delta call centers (closed in India)
    Fannie Mae - Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty and sent to prison.
    GM - Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
    HP - Got out of the PC hardware business in 2011 and can't compete with Apple's tablets. HP was taken over by Indians and Chinese in 2001. So much for 'Asian' talent!
    HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
    Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
    JetStar Airways computer failure brings down Christchurch airport on 9/17/11. JetStar is owned by Quantas - which is know to have outsourced to India, Inc.
    Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
    Medicare - Defrauded by Indian national doctor Arun Sharma & wife in the U.S.
    Microsoft - Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it's lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
    MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
    MyNines - A startup founded and run by Indian national Apar Kothari went belly up after throwing millions of America's VC $ down the drain.
    PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
    PepsiCo - Slides from #1 to #3 during Indian CEO Indra Nooyi' watch.
    Polycom - Former senior executive Sunil Bhalla charged with insider trading.
    Qantas - See AirBus above
    Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
    Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
    SAP - Same as Deloitte above in 2010.
    Singapore airlines (IT functions taken over in 2009 by TCS, website trashed in August, 2011)
    Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
    State of Indiana $867 million FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
    State of Texas failed IBM project.
    Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, had to be sold off to Oracle).
    UK's NHS outsourced numerous jobs including health records to India in mid-2000 resulting in $26 billion over budget.
    Union Bank of California - Cancelled Finacle project run by India's InfoSys in 2011.
    United - call center (closed in India)
    Victorian Order of Nurses, Canada (Payroll system screwed up by SAP/IBM in mid-2011)
    Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
    World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).

    I could post the whole list here but I don't want to crash any servers.

    DB, are you a chinaman?

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  250. @SOL
    "However, due to WN and alt-righter threat of Asian genocide in western countries many of us might feel compelled to vote democrats."

    Or you could just leave. Because with that sort of entitled attitude, you will get what's coming.

    Lock, loaded and ready to go, is that right?

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  251. @EliteCommInc.
    Shocking and amazing ----


    Immigrating people before assimilating the ones we have is damaging ---


    Immigrating almost everyone from anywhere else imports people who favor government intervention ---

    Shocking and amazing ----


    Indians tend to be democrats or pro-intervention --- shocking

    maybe its just my low IQ, but seems and obvious consequence of our current immigration policy

    Shocking and amazing —-

    No, It’s just you!

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  252. M. Thomas says:
    @DB Cooper
    "Programming competitions have absolutely nothing to do with hiring in the real world. "

    You are right. In the real world Indians in the US only hire Indians regardless of how unqualified the candidates are. The criteria is not on skills but being Indians. These are scam artists that use fake degrees to leech off successful companies. Here is a list of companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor. This list was compiled many years ago, I am sure it is much longer now.

    Companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor

    Adaptec - Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
    AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
    AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
    Apple - R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
    Australia's National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
    Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
    Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
    Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
    Caymas - Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
    Caterpillar misses earnings a mere 4 months after outsourcing to India, Inc.
    Circuit City - Outsourced all IT to Indian-run IBM and went bankrupt shortly thereafter.
    ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
    Computer Associates - Former CEO Sanjay Kumar, an Indian national, sentenced to 12 years in federal prison for accounting fraud.
    Deloitte - 2010 - this Indian-packed consulting company is being sued under RICO fraud charges by Marin Country, California for a failed solution.
    Dell - call center (closed in India)
    Delta call centers (closed in India)
    Fannie Mae - Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty and sent to prison.
    GM - Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
    HP - Got out of the PC hardware business in 2011 and can't compete with Apple's tablets. HP was taken over by Indians and Chinese in 2001. So much for 'Asian' talent!
    HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
    Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
    JetStar Airways computer failure brings down Christchurch airport on 9/17/11. JetStar is owned by Quantas - which is know to have outsourced to India, Inc.
    Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
    Medicare - Defrauded by Indian national doctor Arun Sharma & wife in the U.S.
    Microsoft - Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it's lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
    MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
    MyNines - A startup founded and run by Indian national Apar Kothari went belly up after throwing millions of America's VC $ down the drain.
    PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
    PepsiCo - Slides from #1 to #3 during Indian CEO Indra Nooyi' watch.
    Polycom - Former senior executive Sunil Bhalla charged with insider trading.
    Qantas - See AirBus above
    Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
    Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
    SAP - Same as Deloitte above in 2010.
    Singapore airlines (IT functions taken over in 2009 by TCS, website trashed in August, 2011)
    Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
    State of Indiana $867 million FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
    State of Texas failed IBM project.
    Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, had to be sold off to Oracle).
    UK's NHS outsourced numerous jobs including health records to India in mid-2000 resulting in $26 billion over budget.
    Union Bank of California - Cancelled Finacle project run by India's InfoSys in 2011.
    United - call center (closed in India)
    Victorian Order of Nurses, Canada (Payroll system screwed up by SAP/IBM in mid-2011)
    Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
    World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).

    I could post the whole list here but I don't want to crash any servers.

    Wow. Your ignorance of the world of business is almost as frightening as your racism.

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    Heh. I have long since blocked DB Cooper (after he claimed that China never invaded Tibet or any of its other neighbors).

    But it seems you are seeing his retarded 'list' for the first time. Effectively, if a white CEO starts a call center in India and discontinues it after five years, that counts as an 'Indian failure' on this list. A better metric would the stock prices of companies while Indian CEOs preside over them, but that is way to advanced a level of thought for this faggot DB Cooper.

    Few people here deserve to be filtered outright, but he is one of them, as I am sure you will soon agree with. He remains the only stupid Chinese person I have ever encountered.

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  253. @Ju Ahn
    You are clueless obviously. I've heard of and even known some East Asians who scored perfect 2400 on SAT yet denied admissions to elite universities such as HYP and others. It also happens to some white people but probably in lower numbers as I do not hear of many.

    Being African American instead of white is worth an average
    of 230 additional SAT points on a 1600-point scale, but recruited athletes
    reap an advantage equivalent to 200 SAT points. Other things equal, Hispanic
    applicants gain the equivalent of 185 points, which is only slightly more
    than the legacy advantage, which is worth 160 points. Coming from an Asian
    background, however, is comparable to the loss of 50 SAT points.
     
    https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/files/webAdmission%20Preferences%20Espenshade%20Chung%20Walling%20Dec%202004.pdf

    Use the reply button.

    I assume you are replying to me.

    I’m well aware of the SAT figures.

    The point made in the study I referenced is that colleges employ their “holistic” admissions to enforce additional discrimination against rural and working class whites.

    Like I said, not a pissing contest. Well aware East Asians are heavily discriminated against as well.

    White people are less college-obsessed than Asians which is one reason you don’t hear about it. I did not attend at all for instance, neither did my father. My brother however went to an Ivy League school (Brown), and my grandfathers attended the military and naval academies of Sweden. My brother actually says that going to Brown was the biggest mistake of his life.

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  254. @nsa
    Much can be learned from the attempted Indian takeover of the Fiji Islands. The vile Brits ran in show in the early 1900s and imported lots of Indian laborers to work on their plantations. Most the Indians stayed, prospered and proliferated until they reached about 40% of the population. this generated considerable resentment among the native Fiji islander population. In 1987, a native Fijian supported by the entire Indo-Fijian community won a general election and installed Fiji's first majority Indian government. It took less than a month for the indigenous Fijians to rise up and cast (sorry for the pun) out the Indians. The coup leader installed himself as Generalissimo and essentially disenfranchised all the Indians. Maybe the Eastsiders of Seattle can contact the Generalissimo for a few pointers on dealing with imported Indians...............

    George Speight, the coup leader in 2000, had the Aussie support… the half breed didn’t know that they were going to use that pig… Cracka don’t give succor not for nothing!

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  255. @Druid
    My distant ancestors were northwest Indian You are right about bothe Indians and jews

    What, you the new Pocahontas? Elizabeth Warren ain’t gonna like you replacing her!

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  256. @Druid
    Now I'm convinced you're a phallus and rat worshipping dirty Indian!

    And what do you worship? The almighty dollar, perhaps?

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  257. Ju Ahn says:
    @Anon
    I wasn’t writing about college admissions, I wrote about HIRING.

    And why should an Asian immigrant get college admission over someone whose family has been in America for 3 or 4 hundred years?

    And why shouldn’t I care only about what happens to Whites? You only care about what happens to Koreans don’t you? You don’t care about other ethnic groups even fellow Asians.

    Face it, you are number 3 on the affirmative action ladder and the government mandates that lesser qualified Hispanics and blacks be admitted and hired before you.

    But you still hate Whites. So why should Whites like you?

    Let’s not kid ourselves. Most white people in the U.S. aren’t descendants of original settlers of America back in the formative stages (3-400 years). You just happen to belong in the same racial group as them and are also just benefiting off of their accomplishments. And contrary to your beliefs, I find that white people to be generally pleasant people to be around and faced only little racist behaviors here (though I would not say none). However, I do not like WNs since they have wild ideas about white genocide and would not refrain from committing Asian genocide if they had the power to do so.

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    A majority of white Americans have descendants who were here prior to 1776.

    I am not among them. My parents are Swedish.

    I've come to realize as a result that I don't really have a nationality.

    I am not truly American, but being raised here I don't have a proper connection to Sweden.

    I try to love both countries. Culturally I am American.

    I am sure many other people in America have the same problem, especially non-whites.

    This is a real problem but is not discussed.
    , @Anon
    My ancestors came to America as early as 1619. Just as you are a Korean nationalist who complains about discrimination against Asians, I am a White nationalist who complains about discrimination against me and mine.
    , @Thomm

    Let’s not kid ourselves. Most white people in the U.S. aren’t descendants of original settlers of America back in the formative stages (3-400 years). You just happen to belong in the same racial group as them and are also just benefiting off of their accomplishments. And contrary to your beliefs, I find that white people to be generally pleasant people to be around and faced only little racist behaviors here (though I would not say none). However, I do not like WNs since they have wild ideas about white genocide and would not refrain from committing Asian genocide if they had the power to do so.
     
    You are right. As a white person, I can assure you that White Trashionalists are extremely unwelcome in the better white circles. If a White Trashionalist spouted his crap even in an all-white bar in rural America, enough heroic normal white guys would stand up and beat the crap out of the weakling White Trashionalist. If a White Trashionalist is ever in the same room as an attractive white woman, her biological instinct tells her to leave immediately, and she does.

    Remember that White Trashionalism is an almost 100% male ideology, full of incel losers (if straight, which itself is a minority of White Trashionalists). The female counterparts of this subrace become the fat bluehaired feminists.

    The reason the white race improves at a faster rate than others is that we have evolved to expunge our genetic waste matter into certain carriers for efficient elimination from the gene pool. These carriers are the White Trashionalists (if male) and fat feminists (if female). Other races don't have this waste removal process as highly developed, so the variance within other races isn't quite as high as it is within whites.

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  258. @utu
    NYT writer is absolutely right: Delhi is literally a shithole; but so is all of India
    https://www.firstpost.com/india/nyt-writer-absolutely-right-delhi-literally-shithole-india-2272904.html

    In his 1960 exploration of eastern mysticism, The Lotus and the Robot, Arthur Koestler compared the smell of Bombay to that of “a wet smelly diaper” wrapped around his head. Four years later, VS Naipaul was so revulsed about the filth in India that he wrote in an Area of Darkness that “Indians defecate everywhere” - beside the railway tracks, on the beaches, on the hills, on the riverbanks and on the streets. “They never look for cover,” he said with absolute disgust.

    India was smarter than Koestler and Naipaul — it promptly banned both the books.

    It’s remarkable that even after 50 years since Koestler and Naipaul refused to hold back their revulsion to the all-pervading filth in India, it still remains a humiliating truth that visitors find out the moment they set their foot in the country.

    In his recent overseas tour, Prime Minister Narendra Modi claimed that earlier Indians felt ashamed of being born in India, but now they feel proud. Do they? His point was political. He thought that the change of government in India makes its people proud. But in reality, Indians should still be ashamed because outsiders find their country too filthy to live in; the filth that has permeated every state of matter — solid, liquid, gas and perhaps even plasma. It doesn’t befit a modern nation that’s apparently raring to go.

    What Koestler and Naipaul wrote in the sixties and what Harris wrote in 2015 are not anecdotal, but are borne out by facts. According to WHO, India accounts for 90 percent of open defecation in South Asia and 59 percent of the practice in the world. It also accounts for more than twice the number of open defecations of the 18 countries that come after it in the WHO list.

    People and dogs shit in public in the Big Apple… what’s the big fucking deal? Until America is spotless, shut the fuck up and get back into your rathole!

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    You actually want to compare the level of public defecation in New York to that in India?
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  259. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ju Ahn
    You are clueless obviously. I've heard of and even known some East Asians who scored perfect 2400 on SAT yet denied admissions to elite universities such as HYP and others. It also happens to some white people but probably in lower numbers as I do not hear of many.

    Being African American instead of white is worth an avera