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When we get tired of blowing up Muslims for Israel, will we turn on ourselves?

Scenarios for a second American Civil War have existed ever since the first one ended. Some hyperbolists called Reconstruction the Second Civil War. Alt-history novelists have imagined the ascension of Huey Long or George McGovern to the presidency as Civil War II trigger. The real-life (?!) ascension of Trump has inspired similar fantasies, leading red state partisans to gleefully thump their chests and imagine how easy and fun it would be to take San Francisco—a fantasy that triggers the hell out of the SF-based blue staters.

How might civil unrest spill over into civil war? One common scenario is race war. The late Charles Manson, we are told, staged his killer-hippie mass knifings because he thought the Beatles were sending him secret orders to start a black-vs. white apocalypse. Obviously Manson must have been taking some really, REALLY bad acid while playing Beatles records backward in hopes of hearing John sneering “Paul is dead”—then suddenly grokked that the White Album, whose mysterious title does not appear on the record and makes no sense anyway, is really about white power! Manson lieutenant Tex Watkins explained: “and what it (the song ‘Helter Skelter’) meant was the Negros were going to come down and rip the cities all apart…Before Helter Skelter came along, all Charlie cared about was orgies.”

Though Manson was a raving nut, his vision of race war was inspired by contemporary reality. Indeed, while the hippies carried on with their orgies, “the Negros” did rip cities apart. Even before the Deep State murdered Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., blacks in New Jersey, Detroit, Minneapolis, and many other cities had been tearing things up and burning neighborhoods down. The “Long, Hot Summer” of 1967 featured 159 race riots in dozens of US urban centers, and elements of the National Security State were drawing up contingency plans for a race based civil war.

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William Pepper—the King family’s attorney who proved in a court of law that the CIA, FBI, and US army killed Dr. King with the help of their organized crime assets—once spoke with a US Army Colonel who admitted to helping plan the assassination. The Colonel said that the military had done extensive focus group style interviews with participants in the 1967 race riots and determined that Dr. King’s charisma was the biggest factor driving the riots. Counterintuitively, the apostle of nonviolence was inspiring the psychological liberation of black people in such a way that a certain percentage felt empowered to act out their repressed anger. So when King determined to bring half a million followers to Washington, DC and stay there until the feds pulled out of Vietnam and declared a real war on poverty, the Colonel and his friends immediately envisioned the nation’s capital erupting into mass violence that could spread nationwide on a scale many orders of magnitude beyond what had happened during 1967’s Long Hot Summer, perhaps precipitating a real civil war culminating in the revolutionary overthrow of the American State. This, the Colonel explained to Pepper, was the primary reason King had to be terminated…with extreme prejudice.

Predictably, the Deep State’s murder of Dr. King did not solve the racial violence problem. The assassination itself set off a wave of new riots in cities including Chicago, Baltimore, and—sorry, Colonel—Washington, DC. White-dominated forces of the State retaliated with escalating repression. Black communities felt increasingly under siege, and have continued to feel that way until the present day. Whether it is panicky white police shooting down black people during traffic stops, on sidewalks, or in the black people’s own backyards, or whether it is black people “acting out” against whites (an interesting and under-reported case is the possibly-Cointelpro-orchestrated[*]While Ron Unz does not mention the possibility that the Zebra murders were orchestrated or at least tolerated by Cointelpro, the fact that the FBI and other tentacles of the Deep State had heavily infiltrated the Nation of Islam and other radical groups has been well-established for decades. One notorious example is the Deep State’s murder of Malcolm X using its NOI assets. Given the realities of Cointelpro-style infiltration, is hard to imagine Bay Area offshoots of the Nation of Islam conspiring to conduct widespread random murders of white people without the FBI knowing about it before it even started. More likely, in this writer’s opinion, the FBI or some other branch of the Deep State orchestrated the whole Zebra operation as a false flag trigger for a crackdown on America’s most successful and most dangerous (to the status quo) black-empowerment organization. The Nation of Islam had been growing rapidly in power and popularity right up until the time of the Zebra killings. The crackdown that followed those killings helped destroy the organization, which essentially disappeared after the death of Elijah Muhammad in 1975, only to re-emerge later thanks to the efforts of Louis Farrakhan. The most plausible explanation of the Zebra killings is that those killers, like the entire “Symbionese Liberation Army,” were brainwashed and deployed by Deep State operatives. Zebra killings discussed here by Ron Unz) the simmering racial violence in America is a seemingly unavoidable component of most projections for a New Civil War.

Most red state vs. blue state scenarios, of course, have a race war component. When Trump’s red-staters invade San Francisco, for example, it will not only be to punish the latté liberals and happy homos for their mushy-headedness and luxuriously deviant lifestyles, but more importantly to “make America white again” by ending the sanctuary city movement and deporting the illegal immigrants…while presumably also putting any black people who have managed to remain in America’s highest-rent city, as well as the déclassé ones across the Bay, in their properly subservient place. In other words, just as the first Civil War was really about race (i.e., slavery) the second one will build on the same theme.

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Or will it? Omar al-Akkad’s notable 2017 novel American War begs to differ. In El-Akkad’s dystopian vision, the War on Muslims mutates into the War on Southerners—but has nothing to do with race. Instead, the Yankee Terror State turns its savagery against the New Rebels of the Free Southern States because those good ole boys and girls (of all shades of skin pigmentation and sexual preference) refuse to give up fossil fuels, choosing instead to secede from the Union.

Al-Akkad’s vision of blue vs. red global-warming-driven war run amok in a near-future America that has completely forgotten about the whole concept of race is surprisingly plausible, at least while you are reading it. (Civil War I, after all, was really about economics not race, so why shouldn’t Civil War II also be over an economic issue?) The plot turns on the adventures of Sarat, a young Red State woman of mixed and meaningless (near-black Chicano and po’ white trash) ancestry who awakens politically and goes after the Blue State occupiers in pretty much the same way the Iraqi resistance went after George W. Bush’s storm troopers.

Unlike most dystopian science fiction, American War is not just showing us a terrible future that is really an exaggerated (we hope) depiction of the present-day world we live in. Al-Akkad’s fictional 2074 America is not so much a pessimistic caricature of actual 2017 America as a wish-fulfillment dream of Americans karmically reaping what they’ve sown in their War on Muslims, euphemistically known as the “war on terror.” The horrors that Sarat and other southerners experience under Yankee occupation—drone killings, rape, massacres, torture, internment camps, orange jumpsuits—are precisely those that Muslims have been experiencing since the false flag event of September 11th, 2001. Sarat’s fictional resistance, which culminates in a fantastically horrific act of revenge against the Yankees, represents gratifying fantasy payback for the real-life Terror War’s murder of 32 million Muslims, and a prescient and timely warning about what GWOT is likely to lead to. The whole thing is premised on helping the American/Western reader empathetically imagine what the post-9/11 world looks like to Muslims in general and resistance fighters in particular: Al-Akkad fosters empathy and identification with our victims by casting the archetypal victim-turned-resistance-fighter as ordinary American rather than exotic foreigner.

Zone 23

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An even better dystopian “new civil war” novel, C.J. Hopkins’ Zone 23, hasn’t yet garnered the kind of mainstream support that helped American War collect positive reviews in such outlets as The New York Times, win awards, and generally get noticed and sell plenty of copies. Perhaps that shouldn’t surprise us, since Hopkins, a regular contributor to Unz Review, is on the red side in the real red-vs.-blue civil war that is raging all around us. (I’m talking about the red-pill vs. blue pill war, of course, not the phony culture wars thing ginned up by the Deep State.) Omar El Akkad, despite the subversive aspects of his book, is basically a blue pill kind of guy: His global warming alarmism, gratuitous decision to make his heroine a lesbian, denial of the existence of race, and general penchant for victimology (not to mention his complete avoidance of 9/11 truth in a Muslim-POV takedown of the “war on terror”) all go down well with the Establishment.

C.J. Hopkins offers a deeper, more accurate, vastly funnier, more genuinely subversive vision. His far-future America, which bears an uncanny resemblance to our nightmarish present, features drone-patrolled hyper-surveiled cities, each of which is divided by an Israeli-style Wall complete with Israeli-style checkpoints and incursions featuring Israeli-style killings of hapless untermenschen. But instead of Israelis vs. Palestinians, the divide here is between the Normals on one side of the wall and the Anti-Socials on the other. The Normals— good corporate citizens who are submitting to pharmaceutical and genetic correction so they can work and consume and conform and live meaningless lives like everybody else without batting an eyelash—are conditioned to fear and loathe the Antisocials, who retain enough humanity to rebel, in whatever pathetically insignificant way, against corporatist dystopia.

Zone 23, like American War, imagines the future as post-racial: Hopkins’ Normal vs. Antisocial divide isn’t about race. But it is, nonetheless, very much about behavioral genetics. In this (not so) far future, the Hadley Corporation of Menomonie, Wisconsin has developed a variant-corrected version of the MAO-A gene. Inserted into embryos via germline genetic engineering, this patented DNA produces “clears”: people who are intelligent but incurious, incapable of emotionally-driven fight-or-flight aggression (including the most common defensive variety), “easily trained, highly responsive to visual and verbal commands,” and so on. In other words, perfect corporate citizens!

The corporatist state naturally strives to perfect itself, imposing a “final solution” to the ASP (anti-social person) problem by mandating that henceforth no non-genetically-engineered babies may be born. The result is a very one-sided “race war” in which a few antisocial malcontents try to hold out against what amounts to a genocide against “uncorrected” humanity. The plot follows two of those ASP antiheroes as they throw rocks at the Israeli bulldozer of corporatist genocide.

Hopkins’ ferociously funny yarn is not just a satire on our ever-worsening techno-dystopia. In imagining a genetic basis to the difficulties many of us experience adjusting to hyperconformist “technologically-enhanced” lifestyles, and in portraying individuals struggling and flailing against the uber-civilization around them like flies caught a spider web, Zone 23 resonates with the great critiques of technological civilization. According to this tradition, which runs from Taoist Chinese hermits through Middle Eastern prophets and Marxian critics of “alienation” to contemporary scientists who insist that humans are genetically suited to be hunter-gatherers not high tech city dwellers, we are grossly unsuited for living the kind of lives that most modern humans are, for all practical purposes, forced to lead. Through the Brechtian device of estrangement, Hopkins forces us to recognize ourselves in his beleaguered ASP antiheros.

The apostles of race war, from Hitler to Charles Manson to today’s ultra-Zionists, are hugely bothered by what they see as a supposed basic and massive incompatibility between races, i.e. broad, loosely-identifiable swathes of the human genome. According to their bleak vision, we are doomed to fight and kill our cousins whose slightly different average genetic profiles mark them as Other.

Perhaps there is some truth to this notion. Perhaps our nature includes a strong tendency to in-group vs. out-group hostility. And perhaps we tend to divide in-group from out-group on the basis of ascribed ancestry, that is, along tribal lines.

But those who are hugely bothered by other races (or their own race), like those who loathe people of a different ideology or religion or language, may be getting all worked up over nothing. They may in fact be projecting their own experience of a much deeper alienation. They may simply be natural-born hunter gatherers caught in the trap of modern technological civilization, living fantastically comfortable yet somehow miserable lives, desperately seeking someone Other to blame for their predicament.

Notes

[*] While Ron Unz does not mention the possibility that the Zebra murders were orchestrated or at least tolerated by Cointelpro, the fact that the FBI and other tentacles of the Deep State had heavily infiltrated the Nation of Islam and other radical groups has been well-established for decades. One notorious example is the Deep State’s murder of Malcolm X using its NOI assets. Given the realities of Cointelpro-style infiltration, is hard to imagine Bay Area offshoots of the Nation of Islam conspiring to conduct widespread random murders of white people without the FBI knowing about it before it even started. More likely, in this writer’s opinion, the FBI or some other branch of the Deep State orchestrated the whole Zebra operation as a false flag trigger for a crackdown on America’s most successful and most dangerous (to the status quo) black-empowerment organization. The Nation of Islam had been growing rapidly in power and popularity right up until the time of the Zebra killings. The crackdown that followed those killings helped destroy the organization, which essentially disappeared after the death of Elijah Muhammad in 1975, only to re-emerge later thanks to the efforts of Louis Farrakhan. The most plausible explanation of the Zebra killings is that those killers, like the entire “Symbionese Liberation Army,” were brainwashed and deployed by Deep State operatives.

 
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  1. Rational says:

    ALIENS SETTING WILD FIRES IN CALIFORNIA AND GREECE.

    The war is here. There have been large serious wild fires in CA and Greece. The MSM is trying to blame the former on a tire!!

    I suspect the aliens have set these fires. The MSM is quiet about that possibility, which is most likely, I think. The liberals surely have blood on their hands.

  2. Meimou says:

    Thanks for the review of Zone 23, I’ll check it out. I’ll skip American War though. No sense in spending money for blue pill nonsense I can get anywhere.

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  3. WHAT says:

    …and then I got to the postulate that those willing to live in racially harmonious societies are somehow relicts. Does this site have some kind of weekly leftard idiotism qota to fill? Is Reed not enough anymore in this case?

  4. Cortes says:

    Resource scarcity (of water) is the all-too-believable cause of Paolo Bacigalupi’s dystopia:

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23209924-the-water-knife

  5. Zone 23 was one of the best novels I’ve ever read. I’m a big reader, and Zone 23 stands out as one of the better fiction books in my lifetime. It is sort of a cross between 1984, Fahrenheit 451, and Brave New World, but with better, much funnier, dialogue. It also introduces the corporate-state-hybrid as a menacing enemy.

  6. Anon[370] • Disclaimer says:

    The three most likely ways the United States will descend into tyranny, from most likely to least likely are the following:

    1. Continuous immigration makes the country a de facto one party state; the democrats win congress and the presidency and retain it through successive election cycles, all legitimized through the fig leaf of democratic voting.

    With electoral checks removed, radical leftists will rescind most American rights such as free speech and association – tacitly, they won’t directly say that’s what they are doing, rather they will present it with terms like “hate crime” and the like. Say the wrong thing, and you will get fired, your bank will deny you service, and you will be subject to international media scorn. They’ll start with traditionally “right wing” freedoms like gun rights, speech, and religious affiliation. But they’ll move on to internet anonymity and the secret ballot.

    Expect endless media-generated witch trials of dissenters and two minute orgies of hate for white Caucasians, and to a lesser extent, East Asians.

    Expect a security state that monitors and records EVERYTHING you do for future use against you should it be necessary – phone calls, internet usage, public travel via CCTV and automobile/cell phone tracking (they already do that)…perhaps even what you do in your own home via technologies that can see through walls, record through television and computer cameras and mics, and inquiries to personal AI assistants like Siri. Quantum computer-based AI will additionally be able to track down internet posters through sophisticated mathematical analysis, encryption breaking, and grammar/syntax analysis.

    Future development of AI makes brainwashing and propaganda easier than anyone could have previously imagined. This works miracles at controlling the population…for a while, but even AI can’t erase day-to-day multicultural tensions through personal interactions. People begin disbelieving everything they see and hear from the media. Ironically, this presents propaganda opportunities for foreign governments against the US population.

    The country will become increasingly ungovernable. The corrupt oligarchical media, owned and controlled by individuals loyal to the democrat party, lie endlessly on their behalf. The internet is eventually censored using “harassment” and “hate speech” as a pretext. Those who oppose this are labeled supporters of hate – a derivation of the “think of the children” fallacy.

    The US tries to counter a rising China militarily but fails. America’s military isn’t committed; it’s just a job in a country no one has any true loyalty to anymore (like the Roman Empire in the early fifth century). There may be a battle over Taiwan that the US navy loses. A multicultural US population has no desire to fight a protracted war with a determined, nationalist and nearly homogeneous China, so the US backs off after a single humiliating sea battle. The event presages a new Chinese century much like US entry into WWI marked a new era or the Russo-Japanese war marked the end of Western military hegemony for the first time since the end of the Middle Ages.

    Sensing a sea change, Asian governments like Japan begin rapprochement with China. US alliances falter in Asia.

    As SJWs take over Hollywood and churn out leftist agitprop, new centers of culture and entertainment pop up in China. Just as the Russians hoarded Western pop music during the Cold War, many white Americans do the same with Chinese movies and books – their own movies and books being uninteresting propaganda (see the downfall of the US comic book industry for an example of what is to come) – and sometimes even racist anti-white trash.

    Diversity (non-white) efforts cripple US industry. Meritorious China becomes even more economically dominant than expected at American expense.

    US financial life is punctuated by continual boom/bust cycles as minorities use the government to re-appropriate wealth for themselves at the expense of white Caucasians (see Zimbabwe and South Africa’s looming land grab). We saw something like this with the housing crisis of 2008-9: George W. Bush and Ted Kennedy urged banks to lower lending standards for poor minorities; Wall Street got in on the act and, predictably, people with low incomes couldn’t pay back what they owed and the system came crashing down as a result. Expect this to be a more frequent staple of future American life.

    The US’s financial stability is threatened when massively expensive social programs – ineptly thought out and implemented – drive up the federal deficit to record highs; the government raises taxes to cover the losses. This works for a time, but there is only so high taxes can be raised before the economy suffers. A sovereign debt crisis looms. The country becomes ever more socialist.

    Racial tensions reach a boiling point as intractable racial disparities in everything remain. Whites begin leaving for Eastern, Western Europe and eventually China and Japan once their populations fall enough for those countries to change their immigration laws. This brain drain crushes the United States.

    US standing in the world falls dramatically as Europeans recoil in horror at the prospect of their own people’s looming – similar – fate. Democracy is discredited world wide. Elections still happen, but in many places they simply serve as propaganda to legitimize ruling regimes.

    The US attempts to solve its problems by picking fights with smaller countries, the logic being that the population will rally around the flag in response, distracting everyone from internal strife. These military adventures will not go well, leading to increasing internal unrest.

    The elite will engage in a Cold War with Russia because the Russians are white; the belief among the establishment is that this will distract America’s majority minorities from attacking white Americans, the country’s single most valuable resource. This leads to a series of dangerous standoffs and, perhaps, even war.

    By 2060, the US is much weakened. China has an economy 3-4x larger than the total US economy. China has military bases in most of South America and perhaps even Mexico. China also has a military that dwarfs the US military in technological sophistication, size, and overall determination.

    By 2070, the US ends up like the Soviet Union: a powerful external entity (China) foments rebellion among different groups; the country, poor and defeated, splits up. 300 years wasn’t a bad run.

    2. The democrats take back all branches of government in 2020. By 2028, it is apparent that no Republican can win the White House ever again. One of the Red States secedes. The US military, purged of patriotic white men and filled with immigrant scabs, brutally attacks said Red State; Obama did something very similar when he started filling the military with immigrants. Also, one poll after Charlottesvile indicated that the vast majority of the military would favor using the national guard to shut down those protestors, so they definitely aren’t on our side (your feelings about the protestors and their views are irrelevant, but the sentiment expressed by the military in regards to the expression of constitutionally-protected public beliefs is astonishing); don’t be surprised when the military does whatever the democrats demand in the future, including shooting protestors or putting down rebellions with force.

    This is not a civil war because you don’t have a situation where groups fight over control of the government. This is a massacre perpetrated by the left…and it’s been building for years now – from “punch a Nazi” and encouraging violence against Sarah Huckabee to antifa terrorist attacks on protestors and doxxing dissenters.

    Future historians (Chinese and Indian) will wonder why Red States didn’t break off sooner when they had the chance. They will point out that a frog put in a pot won’t leap out if the temperature is raised slowly. They will use this to remind themselves that democracy is ultimately a fool’s errand.

    3. Some patriotic element of the Deep State concocts a plan for Trump to remain president permanently. The 2020 election is called off. The democrat party is banned and voting is limited to republicans. The government works to reverse the country’s looming demographic disaster.

  7. Wally says:

    article author Kevin Barrett said:

    “Whether it is panicky white police shooting down black people during traffic stops, on sidewalks, or in the black people’s own backyards, or whether it is black people “acting out” against whites (an interesting and under-reported case is the possibly-Cointelpro-orchestrated[*] Zebra killings discussed here by Ron Unz) the simmering racial violence in America is a seemingly unavoidable component of most projections for a New Civil War.”

    Except that:

    Police are more likely to shoot whites, not blacks

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/?utm_term=.1db63f3f7797

    Black Officers More Likely than White Officers to Shoot Suspects

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/26/study-black-officers-more-likely-than-white-officers-to-shoot-suspects/

    In 2015, a police officer was 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male was to be killed by a police officer … That 18.5 ratio undoubtedly worsened in 2016, in light of the 53 percent increase in gun murders of officers—committed vastly and disproportionately by black males.
    All that kneeling ignores the real cause of soaring black homicides, New York Post, September 26, 2017

    http://nypost.com/2017/09/26/all-that-kneeling-ignores-the-real-cause-of-soaring-black-homicides/

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  8. The father of president Kennedy already in the thirties told his rich friends that they had the choice between paying a little more taxes or losing anything in a revolution

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  9. CCZ says:

    Peter Turchin, author of “Ages of Discord: A Structural Demographic Analysis of American History” (2016) has examined the “demographic, social, and political trends that changed direction from favorable to unfavorable in America around the 1970s” and has concluded that “in the United States social instability and political violence would peak in the 2020s.”

    He agrees that high levels of immigration and economic inequality breed “popular immiseration (the stagnation and decline of living standards and the declining fiscal health of the state )” and that in periods when economic inequality is high (“disintegrative phases”) socio-economic well being and political cooperation plummet. Most importantly, he cites “the key role of “elite overproduction” in “driving waves of political violence, both in historical societies and in our own.” [United States]

    “Increasing inequality leads not only to the growth of top fortunes; it also results in greater numbers of wealth-holders. … Rich Americans tend to be more politically active than the rest of the population. … In technical terms, such a situation is known as ‘elite overproduction’. … Elite overproduction generally leads to more intra-elite competition…which is followed by ideological polarization and fragmentation of the political class. …the more contenders there are, the more of them end up on the losing side. A large class of disgruntled elite-wannabes, often well-educated and highly capable, has been denied access to elite positions.”

    “The victory of Donald Trump changes nothing in this equation. The ‘social pump’ creating new aspirants for political offices continues to operate at full strength. In addition to politically ambitious multi-millionaires, the second important source of such aspirants is U.S. law schools, which every year churn twice as many law graduates as there are job openings for them, about 25,000 “surplus” lawyers, many of whom are in debt. It is emblematic that the 2016 election pitted a billionaire against a lawyer.”

  10. Anonymous[207] • Disclaimer says:

    After observing Skynet’s coordinated attack on Alex Jone’s Infowars yesterday, we can hardly wait to implement Bill Clinton’s Rules of Engagement on the already identified Enemies of the People, and eagerly await the God-Emperor’s word.

    Second, please recall Bill Clinton’s rules of engagement as applied to the Serbs in 1999, wherein he decided that the political leaders, bureaucratic support structure, media infrastructure and intellectual underpinnings of his enemies’ war effort were legitimate targets of war.

    No one else may have been paying attention to the unintended consequences of that, but many folks on our side of the present divide were.

    Food for thought.

    A reminder about the shape of the battlefield (legal and otherwise) and Bill Clinton’s Rules of Engagement.

    http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2010/03/man-bites-dog-dogs-get-pissed-off.html

  11. Wally says:

    Barrett said:
    “The apostles of race war, from Hitler to Charles Manson to today’s ultra-Zionists”

    Well then, Manson certainly did what he was accused of.
    The Zionists certainly have been and are doing what they are accused.
    And Hitler, in spite of Zionist propaganda to contrary did not do what he’s accused and there is no proof that Barrett or anyone can produce to the contrary.

    As the expression goes:

    There is Hitler with the mythological & impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there is Hitler without the mythological & impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  12. Gordo says:

    Thomas W Chittum

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  13. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rational

    Check out Summa technologiae by Lem — it deals with your suspects.

  14. Liberals should think twice about a Civil War II. The danger to them is they might win it. Eliminate all the awful Whites, how to turn on the lights and feed everyone? Because their ways of doing things don’t lend themselves well to hard work and full bellies. Ah well, one man’s brainwashing is another man’s awakening, to steal the terrorist/freedom-fighter contrast of the old Apartheid Days. The winners write the rules. And how’s that working for South Africa, speaking of the old Apartheid, completely converted now to a new and murderous Apartheid II?

    Funny thing about driving off or killing all the Whites, things like food, water and electricity run short. Sarah Jeong should take notes on Africa and Venezuela when she proposes an anti-White, pro-Socialist world because the first ones to suffer are the women. BTW, anyone know if Sarah Jeong is a Jewish convert or is the name Sarah a big thing to South Korean-born children?

    Civil War? Maybe they should think about it..

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  15. @WHAT

    Is that word supposed to be “relics?”

  16. Heros says:
    @Wally

    Manson was best buddies with Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys and lived with him for months, IIRC. He was a big part of the Laural Canyon MKUltra scene, and was obviously a CIA agent, whether witting or unwitting.

    Dave McGowan, who died young of a rare and strange fast acting cancer, goes into depth on the entire fake hippy/counter culture movement. It was all CIA astroturf and Manson was too.

    https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/laurelcanyon/

  17. Inserted into embryos via germline genetic engineering, this patented DNA produces “clears”

    The review points to some Freudian element in fantasizing on the eclipse of the imperial hegemony via internal strife. Regardless, genetic engineering on such a massive scale as to produce millions of citizens programmed to become so utterly obsequious would be an inefficient and cost-prohibitive strategy to accomplish that feat. Besides the “antisocial elements” who participate in the civil war against their engineered counterparts may also have the wherewithal to control and direct their servile combatants who at any rate are unlikely to offer much resistance. A far more efficient method of thought control and indoctrination via the MSM and the education system is already well under way. The results are already on display given the near deafening silence obtaining in the face of successive American leaders’ criminal behaviors at home and genocidal frenzies abroad. Given the stability of the political duopoly that is in power in the US, no signs — no matter how feeble — of the status quo changing are in evidence. The idea of global hegemony is far from being comprehensively accomplished. But most indications are that no credible resistance is likely to emerge to counter the relentless march of the Empire toward its ends.

  18. CCZ says:
    @Wally

    No doubt, they just happened to pass by the wedding on their way to Chicago to protest the most recent week-end of black on black fratricide (72 shot, 13 dead).

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/black-lives-matter-protesters-crash-wedding-of-officer-linked-to-stephon-clark-shooting

  19. mcohen says:

    Listen to me now,listen.California is up for a serious earthquake.august is no good.earthquakes are a strong possibility in various countries.turkey is another one.all over 7.a medium in northern israel also possible

  20. Tyrion 2 says:

    So when King determined to bring half a million followers to Washington, DC and stay there until the feds pulled out of Vietnam and declared a real war on poverty, the Colonel and his friends immediately envisioned the nation’s capital erupting into mass violence that could spread nationwide on a scale many orders of magnitude beyond what had happened during 1967’s Long Hot Summer, perhaps precipitating a real civil war culminating in the revolutionary overthrow of the American State. This, the Colonel explained to Pepper, was the primary reason King had to be terminated…with extreme prejudice.

    Nonsense. Any imbecile could have worked out that black Americans against the rest in the late 1960s would have been the shortest civil war in history.

    It isn’t like the poor folks could have blended in with everyone else nor that they were well-armed nor had institutional power.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  21. Tyrion 2 says:

    a variant-corrected version of the MAO-A gene.

    Anyone here homozygous for the “bad” variant of this gene?

    I reckon it is a whole load of nonsense, though quite fun as a literary device.

  22. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    The Colonel said that the military had done extensive focus group style interviews with participants in the 1967 race riots and determined that Dr. King’s charisma was the biggest factor driving the riots.

    What got Dr. King killed was not his trying to help blacks, but when he turned against the Vietnam War and started preaching against that murderous activity. Gangsters take a dim view of someone trying to stop one of their lucrative income streams.

    Another curious aspect of then and now was back during the Vietnam War, many American Jews were at the forefront of that anti-war movement, not so much because they were protesting the war itself, but because the USA was waging war against their ideological brothers, the Communist Viet Cong.

    Fast forward to the present ‘Wars for Wall Street and Israel,’ and one wonders where is the anti-war movement?
    It’s virtually non-existent and certainly no prominent Jews are involved, because the same American Jews who protested against dropping bombs on their Commie blood-brothers, have no problem mass-murdering Muslims for the glory of Apartheid Israel.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @renfro
  23. Hi Kevin

    I understand “Paul is dead” refers to a real fact, that the original Paul McCartney had died and been replaced by someone who clearly is not the original but who turned out to be a better musician.

    This is not a fact of great moment, but since it came up, do look it up.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  24. @Wally

    Hatefacts. You need deplatforming.

  25. @Jim Christian

    They don’t plan to kill all the whites, just the Badwhites. There are more than enough competent Goodwhites to keep things running, and many of them would greatly enjoy being enslaved.

  26. @WHAT

    Be quiet, prole.

    Vice President Alexander Stephens of Georgia would not agree with you:

    They [the framers of the 1787 Constitution] rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the “storm came and the wind blew.”

    Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

    Alternative conservatives should know better than to say anything good about American slavery. The foundation philosophy of chattel slavery is really deep down a thing from Talmudic Judaism.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  27. @Justsaying

    Overestimate of human resistance to economic and status incentives. Being LGBT was considered quite unthinkable before, but it has increased in the double digits now in the population thirty and younger. Same goes for urbanization. The few who resist will be laughed at, or idolized and ignored, like Amish, hippies or commune members.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  28. KenH says:
    @Wally

    Good links. Those “panicky” white people and cops often have good reason to pull the trigger around blacks.

    Kevin Barrett is a white Muslim convert who lives (or used to live) in Wisconsin which has few black people outside of Milwaukee, so he undoubtedly has a romantic view of the American negro that he got from watching TV.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  29. Oh, “revolution” and “civil” war! What high sounding drama.

    Well, here’s what they get you.:

    [The masses], as no one may deny, have often risen against governments extorting too high a price for their services, or threatening to overwhelm them with intolerable burdens, but the success of such movements seldom results in more than a change of masters, and the new governing class has usually been larger and of inferior quality. The result of these revolutions has been what it always must be—augmented burdens and a recrudescence of the State of War.

    23
    Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Part II: Chapter XV Summary and Conclusion – Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Edition used: The Society of Tomorrow: A Forecast of its Political and Economic Organization, ed. Hodgson Pratt and Frederic Passy, trans. P.H. Lee Warner (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904).
    oll.libertyfund.org/?
    option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=228&chapter=36940&layout=html&Itemid=27#a_1585595

    This applies, as well to, the much ballyhooed ‘Merkin Rev of the 18th century, although we like to kid ourselves otherwise, so adjust your outlook and approach accordingly.

    Any true and lasting “revolution” is invariably concocted by the big money cliques for their benefit and theirs only. The rest is booshit.

    PS: I did not bother reading the article and most of the comments confirm my suspicions about it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @renfro
    , @Stonehands
  30. @Justsaying

    Nice summary, except that there is no “MSM,” and there is no true duopoly. There is only mass media, corporate media, or presstitute media, and superficial variations of the corporate welfare-warfare party.

    A far more efficient method of thought control and indoctrination via the MSM and the education system is already well under way. The results are already on display given the near deafening silence obtaining in the face of successive American leaders’ criminal behaviors at home and genocidal frenzies abroad. Given the stability of the political duopoly that is in power in the US, no signs — no matter how feeble — of the status quo changing are in evidence.

    I said, “No, there is a great difference. Taft is amiable imbecility. Wilson is willful and malicious imbecility and I prefer Taft.”
    Roosevelt then said : “Pettigrew, you know the two old parties are just alike. They are both controlled by the same influences, and I am going to organize a new party ” a new political party ” in this country based upon progressive principles.

    “[Teddy]Roosevelt then said : “Pettigrew, you know the two old parties are just alike. They are both controlled by the same influences…”
    - R. F. Pettigrew, “Imperial Washington,” The story of American Public life from 1870 to 1920 (1922), p 234

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt/search?q1=amiable;id=yale.39002002948025;view=1up;seq=7;start=1;sz=10;page=search;orient=0

    “…the major political parties have not represented a real political issue since the 1860s. These parties have not stood for opposite political principles; they have differed only about methods.”
    Rose Wilder Lane Give Me Liberty 1936, p 49

    https://mises.org/system/tdf/Give%20Me%20Liberty_3.pdf?file=1&type=document

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  31. How can there be a second civil war when the US never had one civil war?!

    If one does not understand the past how can one predict the future?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  32. @Anon

    The three most likely ways the United States will descend into tyranny, from most likely to least likely are the following:

    Will descend?

    Done deal. What do you think the constitution was all about?

    The Constitution looked fairly good on paper, but it was not a popular document; people were suspicious of it, and suspicious of the enabling legislation that was being erected upon it. There was some ground for this. The Constitution had been laid down under unacceptable auspices; its history had been that of a coup d’état.

    It had been drafted, in the first place, by men representing special economic interests. Four-fifths of them were public creditors, one-third were land speculators, and one-fifth represented interests in shipping, manufacturing, and merchandising. Most of them were lawyers. Not one of them represented the interest of production — Vilescit origine tali. (the dice were loaded from the start)

    Albert Jay Nock, Liberty vs. the Constitution: The Early Struggle

    mises.org/daily/4254

    Furthermore, we know, historically, that only a small portion even of the people then existing were consulted on the subject, or asked, or permitted to express either their consent or dissent in any formal manner.

    -Lysander Spooner, No Treason: No. VI, The Constitution of No Authority, p1. (1870)

    http://files.libertyfund.org/files/2194/Spooner_1485_Bk.pdf

  33. prusmc says: • Website
    @Rational

    Rational
    What’s new about this? Illegals have been building fires to keep warm and cook stolen food for 30 years. Accidents not sabotage. The last thing they want is to cause the authorities to take them as a serious threat not unfortunate victims and modern day hero’s.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  34. I vividly recall the 1984 Winter Olympics in Sarajevo. I was nine-years-old and we were not wired for cable then. There also was no remote control for the 27″ Zenith color console. I was forced to watch some of the coverage for those reasons. Sarajevo was held up as a utopian city where Serbs, Croats and Muslims all lived in a beautiful city peacefully.

    It was so beautiful said the announcers. And in less than a decade that Olympic stadium was turned into a cemetery as those peaceful Croats, Serbs and Muslims slaughtered each other. Once the Soviet Army withdrew from Yugoslavia and the nation disintegrated back into its ethnic lines, the killings started.

    Imagine what is coming in the United States where the simmering hatreds are invited and exploited by not three distinct groups, but hundreds. Image what is to come when “historically aggrieved” peoples who have been weaponized for generations to despise their non-homogenous neighbors.

    The erasure of common nationhood and the instilling of grievance as a caste system will see the US descend into chaotic slaughter the likes of which have never been seen before.

    When Pakistan separated from India after the British pulled out, Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus slaughtered each other, stopping trains filled with refugees being repatriated into their new nations and slaughtering every one of them. Americans have been so denuded of historical understanding that these histories are unknown.

    The malevolence of humanity seething just under the surface until the opportunity arises for it to burst forth is forgotten by placated propagandized people. What people in world history have been more propagandized and placated than Americans who have been viewing carefully crafted scripts since their eyes were first able to focus on a tv screen and whose desperately poor are morbidly obese?

    Stocking a warehouse to the rafters with volatile materials, packing them in so tightly until they near critical mass, now add in some agitation – and light a match. The most devastating weapon ever devised in not the hydrogen bomb, it is a population bomb. A 100 megaton nuclear weapon destroys cleanly – one flash and a wind storm – it’s all over aside from lingering sunshine units. In a thousand years the land will forget what had happened.

    A population bomb where the very people have been weaponized will prove far more devastating and remain scarring the land for eons and that common memory lives on in the survivors igniting anew every few decades.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Them Guys
    , @peterAUS
  35. siamdave says: • Website

    Funny, one might think from somewhere outside the box, how those who rule us and feed us what we are supposed to be thinking about and talking about every day from the MSM soapbox, are so fixated on various dystopian visions of the future. There are better options, someplace where ‘we the people’ actually win someday, and actually start creating a better society – Green Island, for example, a place nobody in the main publishing houses wants to go, and the corporate media promoting ‘everybody hate everybody!!!!’ wants to talk about – http://www.rudemacedon.ca/greenisland.html . First we take back our brains, then we go for the country.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  36. El Dato says:

    Frank Miller was a genius

  37. El Dato says:
    @Sic Semper

    Once the Soviet Army withdrew from Yugoslavia and the nation disintegrated back into its ethnic lines, the killings started.

    That never happened though because the Soviet Army was never in Yougoslavia in the first place. It was Tito who maintained order with an iron first.

    At some point the Western Powers decided the that old Communist Apparachik Milosevic would be the Bad Guy and the Croatian freedom-loving “our bastards” the good guys to be internationally recognized and thus enflamed the passion of secession. The thing just flew apart. And afterwards we had to bomb the country in order to save it.

    I vaguely remember a pretty explanation in First Do No Harm: Humanitarian Intervention and the Destruction of Yugoslavia by David N. Gibbs

  38. prusmc says: • Website
    @Gordo

    Chittum’s work makes more sense than either of the books reviewed here. The two books discussed above are good for the Harry Potter set but in no way conform to 2018 reality.
    I frequently reread Chittum’s work and am amazed at how he correctly analyzed the future into what is contemporary USSA.
    LOOK NO further, than the incipient election of a reparation Democrat governor in Georgia and a like minded legislature,come November, for validation of Chittum’s hypotheses. The one weakness in his predictions is the belief that there will be a patriotic core in the local police and national military that could be relied on to protect the lives and property of traditional Americans. This just won’t happen. The FBI, CIA, ATFE, Homeland Security Police and like activities set the pace, call the shots and control the funds and the local provide a conditioned response.
    Chittum writing 20 years back could not see the rise of the mass surveillance and correct thought propagation that we increasingly welcome or endure today.
    My bet is Unz Review will totally access denied after the massive Democrat election gains in November.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  39. I am only greatly puzzled why Bill Clinton acted against Davidian cult in Waco Texas with such a hysteria. Why he perceived the affair as a mortal threat to government ?

  40. @Daniel Chieh

    I don’t care how hip and edgy it may be, you’re not gonna get a double-digit percentage of dudes “to do that to another dude”, if you know what I mean. The death of heterosexuality has been greatly exaggerated.

    Urbanization is another story, Dan. Do you know there was a period in the 1970′s when urbanization was actually decreasing in America for a short while? Do you remember John Denver? “Thank God I’m a country boy, yeah!” It was around that time.

  41. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Secession was about slavery. The war was started by Lincoln for economic reasons.

  42. @Heisendude

    How can there be a second civil war when the US never had one civil war?!

    The so called Am Rev could, in many ways, be considered a “civil” war, and you are correct that the War of Northern Bankers Against Southern Planters was not a “civil war” but essentially another war of conquest and centralization and concentration of wealth in the hands of ever fewer.

    In my opinion, as such concentration proceeds, it inevitably corrupts the morals and values (if any), of a polity and to me, it’s pretty obvious that it’s proceeding as expected and at an ever increasing rate.

  43. @prusmc

    Illegals have been building fires to keep warm and cook stolen food for 30 years.

    Look who else has been doing similar things but on a grand scale.

    “… I spent most of my [33 years in the Marine Corps] being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers.

    In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for [crony] capitalism.”

    Major General Butler USMC, War is a Racket, 1935

    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

    It’s the big thieves agin’ the small ones and they call it civilization. Pretty risible stuff, I think.

  44. @Meretricious

    There are more than enough competent Goodwhites to keep things running, and many of them would greatly enjoy being enslaved.

    True, and it’s evident by those who not only enjoy it as we write, but brag about it.

    No wonder the dumb goyim are held in such contempt.

  45. Your Martin Luther King sackhanging ain’t helping your credibility one iota, Mr. Barrett. The “Doctor” and “Reverend” were on paper only, not in any kind of reality (maybe paper is all you know, Mr. Barrett), and even the “Junior” – I mean, how do you know that in a black neighborhood?

    Next, the premise of the 1st book made it something that even The Onion would find it embarrassingly stupid to write. Southerners fighting for fossil fuels? Where are the tar sands, Mr. Barrett? Where is most of the high-intensity solar incidence? (OK, SW has the South beat, but the Yankee states sure don’t). It might behoove that moron of an author to read Peak Stupidity’s multiple dozen fundamental-but-non-math-based posts on Global Climate Stupidity.

    32 Million Moslems killed by US forces is an exaggeration by 1 1/2 orders-of-magnitude, but that doesn’t excuse what’s going on. You’ve got my vote on staying TF OUT of others’ business.

    Your 2nd selection, Zone 23 (and thanks to the commenter’s recommendation above too!), sounds like something right up my alley, and I’ll try to find it at the library.

    Now quid pro quo, Kevin Barrett, why don’t you give at least one of Mathew Bracken’s Enemies – Foreign and Domestic trilogy of novels a try? Get back to us when you’ve read one.

  46. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Let me put it in their own words (a TV reporter of the Lyin’ Press of the time) at the end of his report during the 1/2 hour national nightly news: “They are survivalists, Dan!”

    I was right there in front of the TV, and will always remember my intial puzzlement. I understood later. Just that one line, Miss Rozumova, really said it all. The Feral Gov’t and its allies in the LP, Universities and Ed Schools really HATE HATE HATE (TM- Whiskey) for anyone to be able to live on his own. As wacky as some of Mr. Koresh and his followers’ ways were, none of that was the Feral Gov’ts business in ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM! Big Gov wanted to prove a point by murdering those 70-odd people in Waco. We will NOT forget.

    (Yeah, and people still give libertarians and constitutionalists a hard time on unz.)

    I don’t know if or how long you’ve lived in the US, Miss Rozumov, but back in the day, it was ONE HELL OF A FREE COUNTRY!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  47. @mcohen

    I AM listening. I read instead, and I get that California has been UP for an earthquake since the first time someone told me that in the early 1980′s. There’ve been some, but not THE BIG ONE. You don’t know when it’s going to happen nearly as well as seismologists, who have one hell of a time too. See, mapping the state of stress and the cracks in a non-homogeneous material the size of a tectonic plate to miles down is not an easy thing.

    I can tell you that the damage from the real BIG ONE will change the state forever…. AGAIN, I mean, as the immigration has already ruined the place – They called it Paradise ..“I don’t know why, you call someplace Paradise, and kiss it goodbye …” (from a real Californian).

  48. El Dato says:
    @Rational

    Aliens also in Germany: 500 firefighters battled to control massive blaze in Germany that injured at least 40

    It’s good that the administration is looking into setting up Space Marines. We need them.

  49. @WHAT

    WHAT, from this post and Mr. Reed’s* stuff, you ain’t seen the half of it. There are some flat-out Commies on unz that give some “controversial viewpoints” all right, if by “controversial”, Mr. Unz means the Peak of Stupidity. I guess that balances out the sanity of Mr. Sailer, Mr. Derbyshire, Pat Buchanan, and Dr. (a REAL DOCTOR) Ron Paul, but … barely!

    .
    .

    * Fred Reed is a really a good writer, but he’s got this thing where he must promote his newfound Mexicanity every other column, almost like some form of Tourettes.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  50. RobinG says:
    @Rational

    In Greece, no to this –

    ALIENS SETTING WILD FIRES IN CALIFORNIA AND GREECE

    The Greek fires near Athens are routine, set [on behalf of] Greek real estate developers taking advantage of tragic loophole in Greek law that enables them to purchase and develop protected forest land that has been burned.

    “Rational,” as typical, neither rational, logical, informed, nor wise.

    • Agree: L.K
  51. @Anon

    All too plausible, and vividly sketched, thank you.

    My only quibble is that whites won’t be fleeing to Scandinavia, the UK, Western Europe, or Central Europe unless they want to be subjugated by hostile Muslim nonwhites, mostly Arab and African with a large Turkish in Germany and Austria (instead of hostile nonMuslim nonwhites as in the USA).

    And how would whites flee to China? Even if China allowed it, our languages are about as far apart as one can get on this planet, with nothing in common and no starting place for an adult to learn the other language well. How would a typical 40- or 50-year-old person learn mandarin well enough to live in China? Let alone older people, people who aren’t particularly apt at foreign language, and less intelligent people.

    Only Russia, Brazil, and a few small countries in Latin America look like places to which would we run, for lack of better alternatives. Better to stay here and turn things around on at least part of the territory of the current USA and Canada.

  52. DB Cooper says:
    @Anon

    Samuel Huntington in his book “The Clash of Civilizations” outline a scenario along similar lines in which Japan, sensing which direction the wind is blowing, begin bandwagoning for China and even become a cobelligerent.

    If my memory serves me correctly at least three of his predictions become true. This includes the break up of Yugoslavia, the civil war in Ukraine and the Re-Islamization of Turkey.

  53. Wally says:
    @Heros

    Hmm, news to me. I knew he had an interaction of some kind with one of the Beach Boys, but was uncertain of the details.

    Will check it out.

    Thanks.

  54. Them Guys says:
    @Greg Bacon

    Also, back in Vietnam era we still had the military Draft….Those Kommie Kalif. Jews back then Feared being drafted more so than war or fellow commies bombed. They always rather get Goys to do wars that benefit jewry, jewish banksters, Israel etc.

    There were quite a few jewish anti war types in code pink. But they only protested war in mid east every day, when a repub GW was us Prez. Soon as their African Black Mullato-Messiah Hobammy got elected, even though he too did as much war if not more yet, Code Pink and that lefty jew bitch who runs it….Disappeared …..From every tv news, and zero anti war protests were held.

    And these idiots really believe the rest of Us folks in America are too stupid to notice such things eh.

    I figure, and I do hope the center holds at least for rest of my lifetime, I am 65 1/2 yrs old now, But if it don’t hold and everything quickly goes Hot?….Well the biggest mistake ever by those fools in charge of it all, was to think if they waited till we boomers got to retirement ages….That we’d all be far too old to actually fight and kill etc….WRONG!….Its a direct opposite effect based on me and those I know. Every day goes past, and we older guys have far less to lose at this point.

    And if we must deal with it?…Then lets go out in a blaze of glory and lay waste to it ALL. And to every single perp of elites and lefty libs and commie jewry and BLM savages..Take No prisoners type actions.

    Our parents and grand parents, Invented, Built and Paid for this entire modern nation and most every possible thing those fools all daily use or enjoy….So NOBODY else But Us has a better Right to be who lights that match and loads them rifles, and if the fools and leftys and blm savages really hate us so badly?….Okay, then make certain that when we are gone for good…and Mexicans re-take back whatever lands in Texas and Kailf and Ariz. et al they end with…Make certain it Looks exactly same as Before Whites so well improved it all. Barren Desert type lands…NO fresh water wells or modern day utility facilities, NO elec plants. NO autos…NO gas stations…NO Grocery stores! No fuckin Nothing left standing for the useless and worthless savages and low life clowns period.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  55. Wally says:
    @mcohen

    In lieu of the leftist set backs in yesterdays elections, many CAs are no doubt quaking.

    Schadenfreude deluxe.

    Cheers.

  56. Yugoslavia, taking the area most rich in minerals away from Serbia.
    Ukraine, EU and NATO imperialism, and USA commercial interests, gas in the east, the area still held by the rebels.
    The CIA is said to have spent $ 5 billion in Ukraine, the EU was a great help, Verhofstadt, Van Baalen and Timmermans inciting the crowds in Kiev.
    Turkey, as we see with judaism, quite difficult to eradicate religion, catholicism did not succeed, Atatürk was also unable to make Turkey secular, Stalin could not destroy orthodox catholicism.

  57. Them Guys says:
    @KenH

    KenH: Indeed, very correct. And every time I go anywhere and by chance someone speaks out against guns and 2nd amendt issues or Rights….I care not who is there nor who can hear or see me…I Loudly jump in and tell every body who can hear me speak that, if they simply check yearly FBI-Crime Stats accessed freely online at FBI website. What they shall discover fast is that, in Every of the aprox. 15 categories of Violent Crimes listed by fbi stats, which are tallied and documented from Every legal jurisdiction within entire usa, what they find is that. It is Not Guns nor the 2nd amendt that’s the main problem…. and,That “IF” Lefty dem lib antigunners Really desired a safer America, Far less crimes of violence, Safer inner cities, less shootings, overall and everywhere…They would Demand, Negro Bans, Not guns bans.

    Then they would seriously promote a new campaign of Exporting at least 90-95% of African Negroes back to Africa ASAP Fast as possible….Then America would Top the list of safest nations, or at least remain very close to top of list. Ban Negroes Not Guns! Will Reduce all violent categories of crimes, by an avg. factor of aprox. 65% to as much as, 89% Less violent crimes committed. Because FBI stats prove Black Males are the Main Perps.

    And I could care Less who don’t like hearing it, as its based on factual proven stats truth.

    Maybe if more good, especially White folks, would likewise speak out publicly as I do, things would by now be a bit better for all involved eh. With zero BS talk of gun bans and anti 2nd amendt nonsense from the typical dem and neocon repub Jewdeo gun grabber groups.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  58. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I am only greatly puzzled why Bill Clinton acted against Davidian cult in Waco Texas with such a hysteria. Why he perceived the affair as a mortal threat to government ?

    I would guarantee the raid was planned under Daddy Bush.

    After the government employees were killed in the initial raid and Koresh kept the FeeBIs standing around with their thumbs inserted he was a dead man. The Davidians dared to defend themselves and committed contempt of government. The only surprising thing was that anyone walked/crawled out of the building alive.

    Yes, I know several of the ATF agents killed on the first day were hit by friendly fire either by accident or to clean up some Clinton bodyguards.

  59. Rurik says:

    Whether it is panicky white police shooting down black people during traffic stops, on sidewalks, or in the black people’s own backyards, or whether it is black people “acting out” against whites

    is Mr. Barrett this spectacularly stupid?

    or just that jaundiced by anti-white race hatred?

    Here’s a clue:

    Police (of all races) routinely shoot unarmed and innocent members of all races, INCLUDING WHITE MEN.

    Duh, fucking duh!

    what is it about these shit heads that they all act like ONLY black lives matter?

    I’ve seen videos of a police woman torturing a white man on the ground in the snow with a taser, until she simply decided to murder him.

    It was an obvious case of murder. The man was on the ground, writhing in pain from her taser, when she simply decided to murder him.

    Did anyone complain in the media or elsewhere, perhaps when the murderer was acquitted and called herself the victim in the case?

    no, because black live matter.

    what about the man in Albuquerque, NM walking with brake pads, and was shot and murdered, and even as he lay dying, was throttled and abused in his last moments on earth, by the men paid and trusted to protect him?

    or the guy in the hotel hallway terrorized and then executed by an uniformed, murderous thug?

    black lives matter

    or the teen who was shot and murdered because he wanted to record the uniformed thug with his smartphone?

    black lives matter

    All of these incidents are on video, but there has been to my knowledge zero mention of them by BLM.

    And why? Because black lives matter.

    So the point of all this…

    is to get these racist shitheads to comprehend that white men are also murdered by cops.

    But as long as you continue with the hysterical, racist and dishonest narrative that only black men are shot by cops, you’re wasting a great opportunity.

    And what I mean by that, is it isn’t just black and browns that are alarmed at the increasing thuggish nature of our Total Surveillance Police State.

    And if you weren’t so blinded by your myopic anti-white race-hate, you’d see that white men are your natural allies in the fight against the Orwellian hell on earth they’re preparing for us all.

    But in order to do that, you’d have to concede that American white men have legitimate rights too.

    (I know, I know! Why do those racists have any rights? When they enslaved blacks, and don’t want to be overrun and replaced by Muslims and anyone else!)

    and here we get to the crux, because Mr. Barrett here has an agenda. And that agenda includes the ascension of Islam in all white (for now), formerly Western nations. With the attendant demographic shifts. Duh.

    But, imagine something..

    Imagine if Mr. Barrett’s agenda wasn’t hegemonic. Imagine if Mr. Barrett considered white, Western people to be entitled to self-determination – as white, Western people, just as he does for Muslims.

    Then, think what would be possible!

    We (Deplorable) whites and Muslims could seek common cause.

    We could speak with one voice against the serial atrocities committed (in the name of Zion) in the Muslim world!

    We could speak with one resounding demand that 9/11 get investigated, and the perps brought to justice!

    We could demand, with one booming voice, that Tony Blair and George W. Bush be tried for war crimes, just as we all speak, with one voice, against the serial atrocities committed in Palestine.

    They want us divided, black, white, Muslim and everyone else. That’s why they only report on police shootings of blacks, and never of whites.

    But for any of that to happen, the Muslim advocates *must* understand that we white Americans (and Brits and Germans and Swedes, etc…) do not want to be crushed under a massive army of throngs of Muslim (or African or Mexican) or anyone else. We like who and what we are, and don’t want to blend with Muslims or Mexicans. In small numbers, that’s not a problem, but in transformational numbers it’s genocide.

    OK?

    we don’t want that.

    So…

    If Muslims (or anyone else) wants to make common cause with the nascent awakening white Americans (and others) to the crimes of Zion, then those Muslim MUST understand that the solution is not to overrun our lands and impose yourselves upon us.

    Fuck no.

    But I suspect guys like Barrett here, are sooooo pathologically committed to white genocide, that it blinds them to all other possibilities.

    If they could only imagine what it would mean if the Deplorables demanded we get out of the Eternal Wars for Israel, what that would mean for Islam and the Muslim world.

    A repudiation of Zionism, a respect for the sovereignty of Muslim nations. Good relations with Iran, which is all in the American people’s best interest.

    But by demanding massive and transformational immigration into the West, along with that hideous racism that blames all white men for the crimes of murderous police (of every race), he only dooms the possibilities of any kind of cooperation, as a mute point.

    Sad.

  60. republic says:
    @Anon

    re: 1. Continuous immigration makes the country a de facto one party state; the democrats win congress and the presidency and retain it through successive election cycles, all legitimized through the fig leaf of democratic voting.

    The US due to the brown invasion will be become a one party dictatorship, along the lines of the famous quote by Mario Vargas Llosa in 1990, the Peruvian novelist, in which he described Mexico under the PRI, the ruling political party from 1920 to 2000 “as the perfect dictatorship.”

    Like the PRI, all the institutions of the state will be preserved but the reality will be much different.

    There will never be a civil war.

  61. It’s already a race war, don’t you keep up with what the Media, academia and the left in general is OPENLY supporting these days? It was a demographic war. That ended the moment Donald J Trump emerged from the genie lamp and used his war on the fake news/swamp to deplatform the deplatformers and give a couple generations of whites something they have never been allowed to have in this world until now – A voice for thier own self-interests.

    When we get tired of blowing up Muslims for Israel, will we turn on ourselves?

    No. When we turn on Israel, they’ll tank the US dollar and that will start a civil war and initiate their 2nd Bolshevik revolution, this one a culture/race based war, rather than class war. Although that first one was an ethnic and religious cleansing in of itself.

    Even before the Deep State murdered Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

    They created that drugs ‘n’ hooker-loving anti-white Marxist and plagiarist too. Killing him to cover those tracks when they were done wiht him was the lesser of those two evils.

    inspiring the psychological liberation of black people

    Or he was just feeding them the same old delusions of grandeur that they starve for. Just like Obama did. Just like every other race-baiting black figurehead does.

    Predictably, the Deep State’s murder of Dr. King did not solve the racial violence problem.

    That’s because the point was to incite the violence and destroy unity in America by empowering and weaponizing non-white male demographics. This is cultural marxism 101 here. Culture warfare. Civil rights movement, feminism, and that 1965 immigration act and political correctness inverting every facet of American society for the purpose of it’s eventual destruction.

    Black communities felt increasingly under siege, and have continued to feel that way until the present day.

    White communities felt increasingly under siege, and have continued to feel that way until the present day. FIFY. There’s no such thing as ‘black flight’.

    Whether it is panicky white police shooting down black people during traffic stops, on sidewalks, or in the black people’s own backyards…

    OR WHEN THEY REFUSE TO COOPERATE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AT ALL. Jeez, you are one disingeunous SOB.

    …the simmering racial violence in America is a seemingly unavoidable component of most projections for a New Civil War.

    It’s always been the plan. Blacks are just one component of the Neo-Bolshevik useful idiot army. They’re both primitive and prone to violence. Perfect blunt instruments. What do you think Louis Farrakhan’s been up to all these years?

    …but more importantly to “make America white again” by ending the sanctuary city movement and deporting the illegal immigrants…while presumably also putting any black people who have managed to remain in America’s highest-rent city, as well as the déclassé ones across the Bay, in their properly subservient place.

    Lol. You think Django Unchained is a documentary, don’t you? No one wants to put blacks back in chains again, that would serve no purpose at all, they’re outdated as farm equipment. Way more trouble and expense than they’re worth. We just want them and their incompatible culture to go back to Africa and be free of our terrible racist oppression. All they’re really doing here is the same damn thing they do everywhere else that they are given any real influence at all. Rape, kill, complain and drain resources. Europe, Africa, everywhere.

    America was built for “Free whites of good character”. That is who “ourselves and our posterity” refers to. That’s the demographic that should be in charge, both demographically and politically. So Making that happen is fundamental to any restoration of American peace and prosperity. But taking their right to vote and welfare privileges away will do enough to get that ball rolling. Don’t need any of your CNN-grade ethnic cleansing diatribe to do it. The Ben Carsons and Thomas Sowells are welcome to stay. But they are the exception and the exception does not dictate the rule. But most should be made to leave, since they’re so disgruntled and unhappy with life here anyway. They should go back to Africa and lead by example. Y’know, like when we sent freed slaves back to Africa and they promptly started enslaving blacks with what they learned on American plantations?

    In other words, just as the first Civil War was really about race (i.e., slavery) the second one will build on the same theme.

    In yours end every other dead from neck up leftist’s wettest dreams, maybe. Here in reality though, slavery was already waning before the war, which was about secession. Lincoln himself said he never would have freed a single one if he didn’t have to to stop the South from seceding. He also said he planned to send all the freed blacks back to Africa. It had nothing to do with slavery. Blacks were just a TOOL in Lincoln’s unconstitutional war of northern aggression. Just like they’re a TOOL for the Neo-Bolshevik left today.

    Al-Akkad’s vision of blue vs. red global-warming-driven war run amok in a near-future America that has completely forgotten about the whole concept of race is surprisingly plausible

    Plausible? Maybe when you’re as high as MLK and his hookers liked to get.

    The whole thing is premised on helping the American/Western reader empathetically imagine what the post-9/11 world looks like to Muslims in general and resistance fighters in particular: Al-Akkad fosters empathy and identification with our victims by casting the archetypal victim-turned-resistance-fighter as ordinary American rather than exotic foreigner.

    Really? Because it reads like a dime-a-dozen fantasy that the muslim-loving left in America would touch themselves to. Your victim-turned-resistence-fighter notion sounds like the inside of every ANTIFA member’s head. It’s nothing new. Par for the course Neo-Bolshevik fantasy.

    Omar El Akkad, despite the subversive aspects of his book, is basically a blue pill kind of guy

    Really? You don’t say…. And… Al Akkad? El Akkad? Is this guy an Arab or a Mex or both. His name keeps changing between an A and an E.

    The Normals— good corporate citizens who are submitting to pharmaceutical and genetic correction so they can work and consume and conform and live meaningless lives like everybody else without batting an eyelash—are conditioned to fear and loathe the Antisocials, who retain enough humanity to rebel, in whatever pathetically insignificant way, against corporatist dystopia.

    So 1984 meets Gattaca. Got it. I think the hook-nosed elephant in the room will finally be acknowledged before it comes to that, but at least he’s not writing from a perspective so laughably far to the left that center field can’t even be seen.

    According to their bleak vision, we are doomed to fight and kill our cousins whose slightly different average genetic profiles mark them as Other.

    Cousins? Go be a missionary in Africa already. Go help your cousins. What you call a “slightly different average genetic profile” is bigger than you think, considering 60% of our genetics are the same as a banana.

    Perhaps our nature includes a strong tendency to in-group vs. out-group hostility.

    You mean… like so much of the rest of life on this planet? Gasp! No no, surely it’s all the CIA’s work. Inciting nature against itself. This world is supposed to be a utopia! A garden of eden! The evidence is all around us! It’s definitely not always been a brutal crucible of evolution. No way. Friggin’ shadow government!

    But those who are hugely bothered by other races (or their own race), like those who loathe people of a different ideology or religion or language, may be getting all worked up over nothing.

    There are usually two scenarios at play here. Either you have people who hate out of petty envy, or out of forced exposure to a large, hostile and unassimilable foreign demographic that yeilds little to no positive contribution to their society. The former is blacks in white nations, the latter is whites enduring blacks in their nations. For now.

    However most I encounter on the alt side of the right don’t hate other races. They have understandable disdain for the international side of Jewry and it’s influence on the world at large and beyond that they just want all the right demographics in charge of their own nations. Asians in Asian nations, Indians in India etc etc. Even Africans in African nations. And for the same reason you would want this for all the animals in a zoo. Or you gonna try and tell me the tigers won’t get along with the lions because they’re just “projecting their own experience of a much deeper alienation?” Crucible of evolution. Full stop.

    More likely, in this writer’s opinion, the FBI or some other branch of the Deep State orchestrated the whole Zebra operation as a false flag trigger for a crackdown on America’s most successful and most dangerous (to the status quo) black-empowerment organization.

    ‘Black empowerment’ looks like genocide literally everywhere. Towards whites. Towards other blacks. Everywhere. America, Europe, Africa, the Middle East. Everywhere. What more do you expect from the bottom of the evolutionary totem pole?

    The crackdown that followed those killings helped destroy the organization, which essentially disappeared after the death of Elijah Muhammad in 1975, only to re-emerge later thanks to the efforts of Louis Farrakhan.

    Yes, and WHAT HAS LOUIS FARRAKHAN BEEN DOING SINCE? The same damn thing, of course. He incites blacks against whites. Always pushing for violence. If it was the deep state’s will to undermine this organization, why would they allow him to simply revive this? Are they powerful or powerless? If anything, the Deep State would be helping Farrakhan incite the race war that they want to serve as their Neo-Bolshevik revolution.

    To that end, Louis Farrakhan has always been the ideal candidate to lead such a race war. And as recently as the last few years, you can see him at the ‘million man march’ literally trying to incite Latinos into joining them for their race war by promising them the American South West. Couple that with his Nation of Islam leadership and what do you have?

    You have a particularly racist asshole using what influence he wields to try and get Muslims, Negroes and Latinos to all coalesce around him for the sole purpose of Neo-Bolshevik genocide against whites.

    The most plausible explanation of the Zebra killings…

    …Is negroes being negroes. Even today these people make games out of attacking and killing whites on the street. Usually defenseless elderly ones, whom they are also particularly prone to robbing and raping. They call it the ‘knockout game’ or ‘polar bear hunting’. Blacks constitute nearly a third of all crime in the US, and half of all violent crime. Despite being only ~14% of the population. And you don’t need to go all MK Ultra on them to get them to do this. They’re like this everywhere. Just leave them to their own devices and their petty envy and delusions of grandeur will turn to bitter hatred and drive them to excessive violence. Just like it drives them to chop children’s arms off in Africa, genocide the people who feed and welcomed them in South Africa, and enslave their own people and sell them into the trans-atlantic slave trade.

    Warlord mentality pumps through the veins of the African people. They’re prone to it like Latin Americans to banana republic socialism. And whites to self-destructive altruism.

    “there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so.”

    -James Watson, molecular biologist, geneticist, zoologist, and nobel laureate in physiology or medicine and co-discoverer of the structure of DNA.

  62. @prusmc

    In the US Senate, there won’t be any democrat gains in 2018, let alone massive ones. The House looks somewhat worse.

    But your point still stands, just a few more years down the road. God help us. Nah, let’s pray and then help ourselves.

  63. @Achmed E. Newman

    Think you’re underestimating just now bombarded boys are with homosexual propaganda from the youngest age. Sadly, there will be no difficulty further increasing the proportion of white people who get sidetracked into that disease-ridden genetic-dead-end “lifestyle” rather than forming normal families.

  64. Rurik says:
    @Them Guys

    guns and 2nd amendt issues or Rights….I care not who is there nor who can hear or see me…I Loudly jump in and tell every body who can hear

    reminds me of something that happened at jury duty

    I was sitting there, trying to figure out how to get out of jury duty, and telling the judge that I had urgent responsibilities, blah, blah..

    This was a trial where some young guy had used a gun for to warn off some rivals for his girl, or something. But it revolved around the (non-lethal, in this case) use of a gun. (horrors, I know)

    Anyways, the judge was getting clearly annoyed that a few other jurors also didn’t want to participate in the farce. (I’m not a big fan of courtroom “justice” ; )

    And he lectured us and then made the mistake of asking a leading question..

    (clearly expecting to hear a ‘trial by jury’) he asked the assembled prospective jurors, ‘What is the main right that protects all your other rights from abuses of the government?’

    Whereupon I blurted out very clearly and loudly, “The Second Amendment!”

    There was a hush in the chamber. A pall had come over the room.

    The judge sat for a moment speechless, and then asked the attorneys to approach the bench. There was some serous looking glances and whispers, and then eventually we were all told we could go.

    Just like that.

    From what I’ve glimmered, I had ‘tainted’ the jury when I said ‘the Second Amendment’. The prosecutor was likely intending to use the gun itself as the crime. And by proclaiming that our right to own guns was the very cornerstone of American freedom, I guess the prosecutor felt the trial was lost before it even began.

    [heh]

  65. @Achmed E. Newman

    Big Gov wanted to prove a point …

    Bingo!

    They were sending a couple of messages to those who were not fooled by their “benevolence” and protection racket. Unfortunately some of us got the “wrong” messages.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  66. @Achmed E. Newman

    * Fred Reed is a really a good writer,

    He used to be. Now he’s just another ignorant opinionated blowhard. But of course he assures us he’s got the stuff of “genius.”

  67. peterAUS says:
    @Anon

    Good post.
    Overall…agree, with a bit of nitpicking here and there.

    Especially re 2.

    Been several times in related discussions with Americans about that, Second, option. Didn’t go well, most of the time. No surprise there.
    Fared with Europeans much better. Especially with those behind The Wall. Even less of surprise there.

    Most likely the future of USA will be some combination of options 1 and 2.

    Devil is in details.

  68. Them Guys says:
    @Sic Semper

    I notice that while many folks of the usa southern states bitterly complain of how Yankee Northerners and NY Banksters and Wall streeters invaded and started the civil war of 1860′s. It never seems to bother them that it was the same Yankees and NY wall street bankster types who brought negro slaves into those states of the south. And it seems also that as long as no civil war was going on, and southerners who did own slaves could harvest greater $$$ profits due to slave labor, then all was very swell.

    Perhaps much had to do with most southern white folks are also Southern Baptists, and they are the largest group number of “jewdeo-christians” in the entire nation of usa. So maybe being staunch Old Testament promoters and being so Judaized for so long, ownership of negro slaves also made them feel more Kinship with real actual Jews, and more like old testament Jewish owners of slaves.

    Maybe not? Maybe it was just easy money with slave labor that maintained a desire to keep slavery going eh?…One thing nobody can deny, is that if not for slavery back then, we today would never ever have the major racial and various other related problems we have now, thanks to negroes brought to America for slave labor. I also never seem to hear much repenting for being so near sighted by southern folks back then, and not seeming to care much about how so many African savages brought into the nation will later affect Americans not yet born. A type of self centered, money making , I got mine now so screw the future eh?

    Perhaps best answer is it was a Combo, of Both attitudes?….The better cash from less costly labor, and a superiority feeling of being so much like those old testament Jews Via ownership of slave humans which, at least todays jewdeo-christians so worship, and I’d not be shocked if the same type worship of OT Jewry was in high gear back in 1800′s era also.

    Nobody can deny also that of all combined troubles Americans have dealt with, at least ever since 1865 and onwards to date….Nothing has been such a vast disaster and problem as has been Negroes and related slavery issues, that just keep worsening every decade it seems. And there are but Two main groups to blame…The mostly Jewish slavers and shippers and NY Yankee Bankster bunches, with their Shabbos Goy North Eastern helpers….Plus the Whites in the Southern states who could have simply said NO! We do NOT desire nor will we accept any negroes or slavery to exist here…But, we know they didn’t do so, and today we have a Royal disaster awaiting that proverbial…Spark to set it all off. While too many in the south seem also to still be fighting the past civil war. With some of them hoping and wishing for another chance for the South to Arise again…But if the south again arises, let us Hope they switch tactics eh…Because doing the same tactics again, is bound to repeat in same type failure and we cannot afford yet another huge loss as such.

    PS: I am from and still live in Mich all my life, so I only consider these issues based on what I know from various research and books or online info sites, and many friends who did arrive here orig from southern states….Many such good friends in my life time, that live in Mich and other states but came from the south. So maybe folks who live in the south and did more research or know more have better understandings than I do. However, so far while I have heard and read Tons and Tons of complaint’s regarding Yankee invasion and civil War done by Yankee forces, I have barley ever yet heard or read very much complaints of having slavery for so long as a southern institution and tradition of sorts. So maybe many do have it backwards on the complaints dept. eh?

    One certainty I am sure of though, is that if we could wave a magic wand, and make slavery to have never happened in America ever at all. Todays America, and the past 150+ years in America too, would be a Far, Far different scenario and a much better one all around in more ways than can be counted here. So if the South ever does again arise…Try doing so without slavery this time around okay.

  69. peterAUS says:
    @Sic Semper

    ….Once the Soviet Army withdrew from Yugoslavia ….

    Are you of this world…. ?!”
    The last time Soviet Army was in Yugoslavia was before 1948.

    But, do agree with:

    The malevolence of humanity seething just under the surface until the opportunity arises for it to burst forth is forgotten by placated propagandized people.

    • Replies: @Sic Semper
  70. @Meretricious

    The Blue-Collar Whites are ALL bad-whites, even in Boston, every electrician I ever met was hard-corp conservative Bad-White Man. Further, because there are fewer of them, they’ll migrate back to red-states. In Blue-State cities, they have tremendous backlogs of insufficient manpower-related infrastructure issues of maintenance. There aren’t enough of us there, even at union wages, we have options outside the cities without the commutes and crime. In NYC, they’re all engaged in high-dollar new construction, after which they leave.

    Unless they hold water and electrical and other tech hostage, in place, most with options would leave the hostile surroundings of the cities. The citizens all want you dead after all.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
  71. Them Guys says:
    @siamdave

    Well if Biblical prophesy has any relevance to our future, I used to think that New York city was about the only place on earth that so met every description, of that new Babylon city John the revelator wrote about. In the book of Revelation, He listed about 12-15 separate descriptions to describe that new Babylon which will get totally destroyed in the span of One Hour…Obviously by one hour he meant a short time frame and Not a sixty minute hour. But everything as described so well fits NY city.

    However, of recent times when I reflect upon it being city of NY, I have wondered if maybe since John the writer explains his view as being from up into heaven zone, looking Downwards at that Babylon city, and considering how America as an entire nation when looked at from inside of an airplane seat, how the whole nation 3,000 miles across x 2,500 or so miles top to bottom, could actually appear to him as One main huge city very alike to the original ancient Babylon city was…It too was huge, the first known world govnt, wealth beyond normal folks dreams, and advanced everything imaginable as a person can dream of being like. Very Modern city so to speak.

    So if John was indeed looking Downwards from his vantage point of heaven realms, and if indeed NY fits every detail to a, T, then maybe it really was the entire Nation of America he saw? Where coast to coast the whole country can look like one giant sized city without major borders between states or cities, just massive land mass which as seen 2,000 yrs ago from above like in an airplane view could look like one large city. There is also no doubt todays usa has become a Cage for every unclean beast, fags and lezbos galore, a nation that used to be 95% White Christian to far less today, and every week some new better form or method of debauchery and evil overtakes Hollywood and MSM airwaves, then fast becomes the new normal for a majority of its peoples.

    A “city” or Nation that has caused the ship owners of the world, and every merchant globally to become filty rich due to its massive and vast import & export trades, a place where most everything one can desire is made available. And as its being totally destroyed in that hour, those men all cried and wept bitter tears in the knowledge that never again will such a “city” or nation, exist which can so well prosper them like Babylon did. Sure sounds a lot like usa, no?

    Like I first said New York city does Fit best in every category and description which was listed as main features or “clues” to what that new Babylon to be destroyed could possibly be. But now I think it also can even better yet refer to or describe the entire nation of usa as new Babylon. And if correct, then it appears we have nothing else to worry of or be concerned with as to civil war II etc eh. Anybody who hasn’t ever read the book of Rev. and even others who have read it, can read it or read again to refresh memories of what it states of a new Babylon city, and its quick destruction and see if it Jives with their thoughts about where new Babylon city shall be or perhaps already is at.

    I think many will fully agree that no other place on earth today can compare with the many various evils and bads, that America has become. Especially if they are old enough to remember life in usa say, before the 1960′s era. Just read it and see if America isn’t a perfect Fit to what you read.

    • Agree: Stonehands
  72. NYCTexan says:

    I always found Brave New World to be especially prescient, and why wouldn’t it be since Huxley was warning against the liberal totalitarianism his own elite class were openly formulating. Many are not aware of the Huxley family position or that Aldous Huxley taught George Orwell and wrote his book before 1984. The only difference today between Brave New World and the present trajectory is the the details in the technology, which is to be expected. Everyone should read this book, or read it again.

  73. renfro says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The father of president Kennedy already in the thirties told his rich friends that they had the choice between paying a little more taxes or losing anything in a revolution

    I could get behind that kind of revolution. Although I am not for pure socialism, I am also not for pure capitalism ether….both fail and destroy countries and societies in the end.

    However capitalism needs to be ‘forcefully’ reined in ….needs to be transformed into what I call ‘socially responsible’ capitalism …..which is why I have been for and argued for better government Regulations.

    BUT, we wont get regulations that allow for both capitalist endeavors and protection of the public because of the Problem Number One —99% of our politicians and therefore all regulatory agencies are in the pockets of the most greed driven capitalist or the extreme liberals….depending on which party has control at any point. They have ignored for decades our on the books immigration laws that have caused our current mess , refused to enforce our anti trust laws that have put only 5 corporations in control of our press, ignored anti trust corporate mergers that allow them to corral markets with no competition and gouge consumers, allowed such usury practices as pay day loans and credit companies that set their own rates as high as 20%, …..ad nausea.

    The simple minded can hate on and love on and trot like sheep behind their extreme conservatives and whacko liberals and rant on immigration, the deep state, blacks, browns, whites etc etc etc…

    BUT…you will get shit for solutions to anything until you realize that you have to upend and clean up the political system—the pay to play, ALL the lobbies for special interest groups, All the extremes in both parties.

    BUT…continue on ranting on each other and going for the low hanging fruit cause you don’t have the sense or the balls or know how to go after the politicians who have created your problems.
    I assure the politicians are loving it ….the problems they have created ensures you will line up with one party or the other and keep getting the same shit end of the stick you been getting for fifty years.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
  74. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    Thank you so much Wally, for telling the truth about police officers and black criminals.

    The major reason black criminals freak out at routine traffic stops is that they have warrants out and know they will be arrested for the outstanding warrant.

    Same thing v with domestic violence neighborhood disputes, parking lot and bar fights. One of the parties or just someone in the house has a warrant out and freaks out.

  75. @Them Guys

    As a born and bred southerner, I agree with your post. All southerners are blamed for slavery even though few owned slaves. And those that didn’t were greatly disadvantaged by it. (And continue to be.)

    • Agree: Them Guys
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  76. renfro says:
    @mcohen

    No earthquake necessary….California is already burning down….dry as a bone and with temps as high as 104.
    While we on the southern eastern coast have rainfall 4 days out of 7 and lower temps than normal for summer.

    Cycles or human caused climate change or both?….. I say both.

  77. anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    “The 9/11/01 False Flag event”…..

    I respond:

    Ah no.

    14 out of 19 Saudi Nationals Islamic extremists really did get given education visas to attend flight school in Florida, they really did overstay their visas to become illegal aliens but somehow still were allowed to purchase airline tickets in places like Boston MA, murder the flight attendants and pilots and deliberately crash the airplanes in to the World Trade Center buildings slaughtering thousands of our people in our country. Other Islamic terrorists highjacked two other planes, one crashed in to the Pentagon, one crashed in rural Pennsylvania after some brave White Americans on the plane stormed the cockpit.

    The Islamic extremists might have had lots of reasons to hate Americans – and they targeted the World Trade Center the same as the other Islamic extremists who used truck bombs to blow up the WTC in 1993.

    The West has always had “problems”, clashes of civilizations with hostile Muslims – the sack of Constantinople, the Battle of Algiers or the 700 year Muslim Moor invasion and occupation of Spain. 700 years would be a pretty long “False Flag operation”.

    Was/is there a Jewish/Zionist/Neo Conservative angle to 9/11/01?

    Yeah, Sure. American Jews, world Jewish elites work tirelessly to remove all immigration restrictions to the USA, to what remains of the White West. Jews have always done this.

    Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492 or put under the Spanish Inquisition in large part for taking the Muslim Moor side against White Catholic Spanish. Jews can be counted on to take the Arab/Paki Muslim side against Whites everywhere accept in Israel/Palestine.

    Please do not publish anymore of these ridiculous “The Muslims would never hurt us or else we deserve it” conspiracy theories.

    Muslims have made Sweden the highest rape country outside of sub Sahara Black Africa. Liberal Swedes never had colonies in the Muslim world, Swedes always take the Palestinian side.

    OK – we don’t deserve to have our girls raped by Muslim sexual grooming gangs and we don’t deserve to be slaughter by Islamic terrorists anywhere not in New York City, nor in Paris, Manchester England, Belgium, Russia, Egypt etc – not anywhere.

    I hope that clears things up.

    Have a nice day.

    • Replies: @redmudhooch
  78. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    Great comment. I totally agree. Every revolution and civil war in the last 10,000 years was Elite A against Elite B.

    It will never change.

  79. Them Guys says:
    @Rurik

    Very wise statement you made eh! I too have a good jury story much akin to yours , about 30 yrs go, I was called for jury duty in Detroit local city court. I was the Only White guy in court room, and defense attny was a jewish guy lawyer so looked white also.

    They waited to call me until very last moment. After all 11 other jurors were seated and approved, as were also seated the two alternate jurors incase a juror got sick or whatever…..Then I was called to stand up and go sit in jury box as final 12th juror….Well I did as asked, and the Judge asked both prosecutor and defender lawyers was it okay by them to seat me?…Both said Okay fine. Then Judge asked me if I had Any valid good reason I was unable to sit on a jury and decide a case, which it was a Heroin Dope black seller guy case….Busted for sales of 1.5 grams heroin to a undercover Detroit Cop of vice squad…..When judge asked me if any reason am unable to do jury duty….I loudly blurted out that….”Yes your Honor! I am Prejudice!!!!……Entire jury of all 11 plus 2 alternate jury was Blacks….Entire defendant and family supporters and court room hanger outers were ALL African Blacks!….Judge was a Mexican!….Just Me was white with defense lawyer a jewish guy…..Whole room became so silent you could hear a tiny Pin drop to floor…..Silence that seemed to last an eternity.

    Finally the totally astounded Judge stuttered and asked more questions, like, Are You(me) Telling this court and in front of so many African blacks, as well as me a Mexican Judge that you are a Racist? Me: Oh NO, NO, your honor I said I was, Prejudice not racist! More deep long silence in room…….Then judge asks me, In what Way? And Be Careful how you answer or I will hold you in contempt Mr. Them Guys!!

    I then explained how due to a few personal experiences, and several worse experiences of my biker pals as described by them to me, that I honestly felt the Detroit Cops and Especially Dope undercover plain clothes cops were the absolute worst corrupted cops ever!….That I knew several guys in Prison Now for Set-Up dope busts and a couple doing 5 yrs in Prison hard core time, only due to possessed a concealed firearm which the 2nd amendt provides as a basic Right to do so etc.

    I had to say it all very Fast as I knew prosecutor and judge both will try to silence me before I contaminate seated jurors…..Yep…Before I finished saying it all, prosecutor began to rise up and stood there whimpering how I am contaminating jury and need be relesed asap and told to remain silent, say no more…..Judge was saying same basic stuff at same time to me….Very funny situation eh.

    The look on the all Older Black women jury members as well as entire black filled court room was as they say on TV….”Priceless” hehe heh heh……Each jury women smiled at me when I gazed at their faces and I was seated at very end of jury box so had birds eye view of entire jury members as well as did they have a view of that Racist whiteyboy! hahahah.. Too funny, makes me laugh even now 30 yrs later Rurik…Too too funny then and now eh. So I was not allowed to sit on jury that time. Good as I didnt like idea of..what “If” I found doper seller guy Guilty as charged? Then what?

    I will Tell you Then what!…I would live in abject Fear his black savage Bro’s will come and blow my crib off face of planet with Me asleep inside or viewing TV eating din din!…No Thanks pal.

    But Hey…If you have stuff to say or declare? Then do it right?….Especially if you are a White guy speak it Loud and Clear as a rung bell. Who don’t lik it? Too fuckin bad eh. I mean, if Facts and Truth…Not meaning just blurt out falshoods or slanderous stuff mind you.

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  80. @peterAUS

    I misspoke on the Soviet Army leaving – but all of the Soviet satellite states lost much of their Soviet stabilization after 1989 when the Berlin Wall fell. After December 1991 and the official end of the Soviet Union, these places became free for alls. Without the threat of an intervention, all civility quickly broke down.

    Eastern Europeans have very long communal memories. Whereas Americans barely remember yesterday’s soundbites, Eastern Europeans remember 1000 year-old slaughters and subjugations.

    Needless to say, I only used the former Yugoslavia as an example of how a collapsing nation fractures along ethnic lines and ancient hatreds. Imagining the collapse of the US and its fracturing along manufactured grievance propaganda and thousands of ethnic fault lines, would produce unimaginable chaos and bloodshed. Even in “African American” communities there lies so many hatreds – for instance Caribbean blacks, despise American black and both Caribbean and American blacks despise African blacks. There are so many fractures within communities that will leave the populations not as whole pieces but atomized dust should the break down occur.

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  81. @Meimou

    Good choice. American War is surprisingly good for a mainstream novel, but Zone 23 is much better.

  82. Rurik says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    That was an amazingly well-thought-out and articulate comment.

  83. @Syed Zaidi

    Hi Syed,
    Where should I look it up?
    Jim Fetzer has worked hard to convince me of this. But I don’t find his case persuasive.
    Is there an online site with hundreds or thousands of pre- and post-”replacement” McCartney photos so we could compare? Usually the “Paul is dead” folks cherry pick a couple of photos to put side by side, which doesn’t prove anything. I would want to see a very large, randomly compiled assortment. That shouldn’t be hard to put together, since the Beatles were among the most-photographed people in history. If it hasn’t been done, why not?

  84. mcohen says:
    @Them Guys

    Them guys

    It is with regret,that,given your atrocious abuse of the english language,that I have to nominate your tale of jury duty one of the best i have ever read on the internet.a solid 10/10.a classic for the ages.a golden middle finger.
    Just 2 white guys.you and the jewish lawyer.great stuff
    Please note that i have archived the post under the section “duelling banjo’s in c minor”

  85. peterAUS says:
    @Sic Semper

    Without the threat of an intervention, all civility quickly broke down.

    Loss of that particular threat was one of reasons. In Yugoslavia, a conscription nature of the armed forces was also one of reasons. Now, we don’t really..really..want to start “discussing” fine points of that very breakup here. Or I don’t.

    Eastern Europeans have very long communal memories. Whereas Americans barely remember yesterday’s soundbites, Eastern Europeans remember 1000 year-old slaughters and subjugations.

    Oh……YES.

    I only used the former Yugoslavia as an example of how a collapsing nation fractures along ethnic lines and ancient hatreds.

    I know and agree. That very breakup, especially some practical elements, I’ve found quite interesting for this particular topic.

    Having said that, re

    Imagining the collapse of the US and its fracturing along manufactured grievance propaganda and thousands of ethnic fault lines, would produce unimaginable chaos and bloodshed. Even in “African American” communities there lies so many hatreds – for instance Caribbean blacks, despise American black and both Caribbean and American blacks despise African blacks. There are so many fractures within communities that will leave the populations not as whole pieces but atomized dust should the break down occur.

    not quite sure about that.
    Direct comparisons aren’t good, I think. Yes, there are common points, but also big differences. Cultural, geographical, historical….etc….

    That’s a huge topic and, well, can’t really be discussed here. Neither time nor place I am afraid.

  86. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:

    “And how would whites flee to China? Even if China allowed it, our languages are about as far apart as one can get on this planet, with nothing in common and no starting place for an adult to learn the other language well. How would a typical 40- or 50-year-old person learn mandarin well enough to live in China?”

    They won’t have to. Translation technologies are improving all the time. Your cell phone can translate a conversation between Mandarin and English right now in real time. Further, there are already enclaves in China where the professional elite and business class speaks English to a reasonable degree. It is not unreasonable to believe that China might open one of these large metropolitan areas in 2025 to tacitly white (white male) immigration. China’s population is projected to fall by ~400 million by the end of the century, so the impetus to brain drain the US will only grow with time.

    The loss of just 10 million high IQ white males from the US would do serious economic and political damage (that’s why the racist bigots of South Africa don’t want to let whites flee as they try to steal their land); the loss of 20 million high IQ white males from America would end the US as a superpower – who do you think builds all those defense industry weapons, runs critical infrastructure like nuclear power plants, repairs electrical lines, designs cities and towns, makes up the best part of the military, and is the backbone of dozens of other industries?

    “Less intelligent.”

    American white males have an IQ at or above the Chinese mean. They have also proven themselves quite adept at cultural things like making movies and creating music – something China would love to have for themselves; some of them are also quite nationalist, so mixing those genes into the local Chinese population might be good for long-term Chinese plans. They are also considered more physically attractive than natives; being “half” (Euro mixed) is a popular look/internet search term in Japan. A relatively small number – 20 million for China – will fit in nicely while destroying the competition overseas without firing a shot. This could happen, don’t count it out.

  87. I published a novel a couple of years ago about a subject very similar to Zone 23rds, called Jungletown. People lucky enough to live in well-functioning neighbourhoods – and safety, or rather the possibility to secure safety, plays a big role here – are making the most of their dour circumstances in a post-consumerist environment. I planned it to happen in 2019. If you are interested, electronic copies are ten euros. I won’t be commenting on the books presented here by the way. I’ll leave that to the regulars. Thanks for your input.
    [email protected]

  88. renfro says:
    @Greg Bacon

    Fast forward to the present ‘Wars for Wall Street and Israel,’ and one wonders where is the anti-war movement?

    Where you ask?…..think about it, all anti war protest, anti Wall Street vultures, anti corrupt government , etc….have been sidelined by the immigration and race fights.

    This is also a good time to look at the time lines of demonizing Whte men.

    Back in 2012-2013 Max Blumenthal, a anti zionist writer, but Jewish starting using ‘white racism’ to describe what Israel was doing to Palestines .
    If you had scanned the Jewish blogs as I did to see what was up with this new meme , writers, twitters of those like Max, Rosenberg, Kampas, Adam, and other x dozen Jewish lefties you would have see the unified, concerted effort, many times word for word, of the usual suspects to position ‘white racism’ as the sole evil in anti Muslim and in Israeli anti Palestine. Their message was Israel is guilty of ‘white racism’ not of Jewish Supremism.

    Then with Church shooting in Charleston they kicked it into high gear. The propaganda then became that ‘only’ a segment of the US was racist, the South –just as ‘only’ a segment of Israel and therefore few Jews are racist.
    Blumethal for instance posted a picture that was suppose to show a confederate flag in some anti Muslim rally in some European country. The confederate flag, if it was, was such a speck you couldnt really tell what it was. I had to enlarge the picture and still use a magnifer to find what looked like the flag. But what it proved was that there was a concerted effort among the Max.et al crowd to find something to show that Confederate white racism was inspiring the anti Muslim rallies–not Jewish attitudes. He and other also posted picture of Israeli settlers with confederate flags as the settlers ‘inspiration’ for their attacks on Palestines.

    It works like this—-> the white racism evil in the US is attributable “only’ to the confederate South——> Just As—> the crimes against Palestines in Israel are “only’ attributable to it’s racist Settlers.

    The Jewish left (liberal zionist) is using the racism slur now for several reasons.
    1) the anti semite smear is wearing out
    2) the racism slur is more damaging then the anti semite slur in the US because of our black population ….will help arouse blacks to protest more.
    3) racism in general and white racism takes the focus off The Jews as the main actors behind the Jewish State and Jewish supremism attitude that is the cause and most responsible for Israel’s treatment of Palestine.

    It wasnt long until the Race Issue and Immigrant issue as racism took off, every liberal mag and press and mostly jewish writers went full bore on White Racism against blacks and immigrants.

    • Replies: @mcohen
  89. Anon[211] • Disclaimer says:

    “There will never be a civil war.”

    I agree. A lot of online armchair commenters seem to think that we are just moments away from conflict, but I don’t see it. Whites are cowards and the population is too docile from sugary snacks and reality television to do anything. Look to South Africa and Zimbabwe for a glimpse of America’s future. Many will point to Brazil as a better example; however, I think racial animus is getting to be so extreme here that South Africa – land appropriation, racism, and public calls for genocide – is the more reasonable outcome (the racist democrat candidate for governor in Georgia wants to destroy Stone Mountain just as the Taliban destroyed ancient Buddhist statues in Afghanistan and steal money from whites to pay blacks). Obama’s minions stuck it to their racial enemies in his second term, so expect non-whites to do the same once they take over the White House in 2020, especially after their terrible behavior towards our president.

  90. Malla says:
    @Anon

    Wow brilliant!!! This falls in very well with my analysis of the pre planned rise and fall of nations and most important the rise and fall of ideologies, all leading us to the NWO.
    Check it out

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-yellow-peril-comes-to-washington/#comment-2442281

    You are right; I think democracy will be discredited in the world, on purpose, with the collapse of the West. The cool option will be corporate communism, Chinese style, that is what the elites want us all to adopt eventually, the unholy marriage of crony capitalism and totalitarian communism. It may also be that China may be used to by the UN/elites to bring order in a crumbling USA and Russia in Western Europe. Bolshevism 2.0.
    This has happened a lot of times in the past, the collapse of ancient civilisations and empires mirror what is happening to the West. The Talmudic elites are experts by now in infiltrating civilisations, destroying civilisations, attempting NWO control. They have attempted this several times in the past for millenia and by now have collected a toolbox of tricks.

  91. Anon[154] • Disclaimer says:

    “Think you’re underestimating just now bombarded boys are with homosexual propaganda from the youngest age.”

    Flight to gay accompanies flight from white. The true proportion of gays in the population is the same as it always has been because homosexuality has a strong genetic component. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if some people were purposely mislabeling themselves to get diversity benefits/flee the mob of racist anti-cis, anti-whites. I’ve seen at least one public example of a guy whom everyone thought was gay because he dyed his hair, was single, and dressed like an anime character…only for him to be outed as straight during #metoo for online sexual harassment. He got his job because everyone thought he was gay, and he lost it when people found out he liked girls (and randomly hitting them up for sex via Twitter, apparently).

  92. @Rurik

    Were you actually seated as a juror in the case or are you referring to being in the jury pool from which the trial jury is selected?

    What about regarding jury duty as an opportunity to do so some jury nullification?

    I have been summonsed for jury duty a few times and I have been dismissed because I am a lawyer. One time, the judge recognized me because I had been in her courtroom the week before and another time the plaintiff’s attorney recognized me and I had given him a whiff of my hard-core anarchism, and so off I went.

    The truth is, I would like to sit on a jury with an opportunity to exercise some jury nullification. Yes, being on a jury is a huge pain in the ass, both financially and temporally. Many people just cannot afford to miss 2 or 3 days of work, never mind longer periods of time for more complex cases.

    Nevertheless, if I were to be seated, for example, for a jury in a criminal firearms possession / registration case, a drunk driving case, or a drug possession case, or an income tax case, I would be exercising some jury nullification. The defendant would at least get a hung jury.

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    , @RadicalCenter
  93. renfro says:
    @jacques sheete

    but the success f such movements seldom results in more than a change of masters,

    This is why you don’t do mass revolution….you do target assassinations to replace the bad elites as a first step.
    Then as in training done on animals to teach them not go into certain spaces by getting a shock each time they do, you employ the same training on any would be elites that aspire to follow the original elites.
    They must be shocked into refraining from any idea of abusing the people by the threat of pain.
    Having to live in constant fear of your and your families lives, behind walls and an army of body guards will produce fewer and fewer vultures willing to take that risk.

    I suggest you start with the media and press controller elites.

  94. mcohen says:
    @renfro

    Renfo.your opinion

    Just a quick yes or no.

    Are whites racist by nature or by circumstance

    • Troll: Rurik
    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Cloak And Dagger
  95. renfro says:
    @Them Guys

    With some of them hoping and wishing for another chance for the South to Arise again

    Don’t want to ruin your narrative but the South has already risen again. We are being deluged with north east northerners (black and white) fleeing the supposed less racist North. Same for industry flocking here because of ‘right to work’ laws (anti unions) which I personally think go too far in not allowing some protections for workers.

    I am against northerners moving South , they wear socks with sandals and are funny looking ….lol.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  96. renfro says:
    @mcohen

    Just a quick yes or no.

    Are whites racist by nature or by circumstance

    I don’t think anyone is ‘born racist’….it occurs because of upbringing (being taught) or repeated bad experiences with a group or observations of some race or group whose culture you personally find undesirable or hostile…..or other reasons.

    But no, I dont think whites or anyone else is racist ‘by nature’ …meaning born that way……it comes usually from above cited reasons.

    • Replies: @mcohen
    , @Cloak And Dagger
  97. Rurik says:
    @Liberty Mike

    The Jury pool, Mike.

    Never actually sat on a jury, but have acted ornery enough to get out of it several times.

    However, I do agree with what you’re saying about nullification. But it’d have to be a case with enough significance to warrant the torture of sitting though the charade.

    Here’s an interesting one.

    a ‘Stand Your Ground’ case that highlights the controversial law and how it’s applied.

    The man in the video who shot the thug was not charged, because the thug ‘slammed’ the elderly man to the pavement, and so the old guy figured the thug was a dire threat, and plugged him.

    Now if you struggled with the nuances of the law, you might say the old guy’s life was not under imminent threat once the thug saw the gun and sort of turned away. But what about what’s right?

    Was it right to park in a handicap parking space? No, but all that warranted was some criticism from a concerned citizen. And that’s what the gal was getting. All good and fine.

    But then the thug comes out and does a TNB on the old dude, and shoved him like a Michael Brown might have done, with wanton disregard for the man’s wellbeing.

    So, from what we know about the thug; might means right. And that if you’re annoyed with a citizen, who’s more or less inoffensive, but making a point.. it’s perfectly OK to use criminal violence against such an elderly citizen because you like doing such things.

    Me, I’d want to pin a medal on the old guy.

    Perhaps the law says that his life was not under imminent threat, and so he should go to prison for shooting the thug.

    But for me, a thug is for shooting. (regardless of race, of course)

    If some teenager walks up to a man or women, elderly or not, and is going to play some knockout, well then if that old dude is there, and can draw his gun fast enough, then by all means. plug the thug!

    And if he can’t get the gun out fast enough, and the ‘teen’ is able to knockout the stranger, well then, no time like the present! Plug the thug!

    If you live by violence and believe that might makes right and have zero respect for the dignity of your fellow citizens, then you should die by violence. (the sooner, the better)

    If that shopkeep who Michael Brown was throttling and robbing, pulled out a gun and aerated the giant, I’d applaud, and if he was tried for manslaughter, I’d do what you suggest, and offer up a little ‘jury nullification’ for the little guy.

    Or, conversely, if it was a uniformed thug, who murdered or brutalized a citizen, (as they did to Freddie Gray. for instance, and others; like the ones I mentioned, where the man was laying in the snow, and the cop simply murdered him, then there’d be no jury nullification from me. And the murderous thugs in uniform would find themselves in prison.

    Cheers

  98. CCZ says:
    @Wally

    Never thought that I would agree, but, yes, we are headed toward some type of “Civil War II.” Some reasons why:

    I read the WaPo article and 9 of 10 seemed to dismiss the Fryer data.“

    “This is the worst bunch of crap I’ve read in a while. Really!?!? This man took data from police reports written by officers in situations with black suspects to determine whether or not their was justification to say that more blacks commit crimes. I cannot even began to appreciate this foolishness, this is the shoddiest research that I have encountered in a while. Please don’t use this for fact folk. It is bad! Real bad!” 

    “The article points out several flaws in the study. In addition there is no accounting for the number of people killed by police without using a gun. i.e Eric Garner, asphyxiation and Freddie Gray, severed spine. Also hundreds of people die each year during the first week in police custody. They weren’t all suicides.”

    So much for a useful conversation.

    Meanwhile:

    “The new Philadelphia DA has instructed ADA’s to start plea offers “at the low end of sentencing guidelines. For most nonviolent and nonsexual crimes, or economic crimes below a $50,000 threshold, ADA’s are now to offer defendants sentences below the bottom end of the state’s guidelines. So, for example, if a person with no prior convictions is accused of breaking into a store at night and emptying the cash register, he would normally face up to 14 months in jail. Under the DA’s paradigm, he’ll be offered probation. If prosecutors want to use their discretion to deviate from these guidelines,…the DA must personally sign off.”

    “Prosecutors are also now to decline charges for marijuana possession, no matter the weight. Retail theft under $500 is no longer a misdemeanor in the eyes of Philly prosecutors, but a summary offense, the lowest possible criminal charge. And when ADAs give probation charges they are to opt for the lower end of the possible spectrum. “Assuming that a defendant is violation free for 12 months, any remaining probation is simply excess baggage requiring unnecessary expenditure of funds for supervision.” When a person does break the rules of probation, minor infractions such as missing a PO meeting are not to be punished with jail time or probation revocation.”

    “Prosecutors must now calculate the amount of money a sentence would cost before recommending it to a judge, and argue why the cost is justified. He estimates that it costs $115 a day, or $42,000 a year, to incarcerate one person. So, if a prosecutor seeks a three-year sentence, she must state, on the record, that it would cost taxpayers $126,000 and explain why she thinks this cost is justified.”

    And also:

    “Former public defender, and current Ferguson City Council member, Wesley Bell defeated St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch in a Democratic primary, after campaigning on pledges to appoint special prosecutors in police-shooting cases, end cash bail for low-level offenses, expand the county’s drug courts, provide more low-level drug offenders with alternatives to incarceration, and never pursue the death penalty in any case.”

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  99. Zimriel says:

    “Some hyperbolists called Reconstruction the Second Civil War.”

    Which? I read the Left side of those hyperbolists during the GW Bush era: Loewen, Lane, Lemann. They didn’t consider it the Second Civil War. They considered it the end of the First: which the good guys – their guys – lost. (Not unlike how Ferguson collapses WW1, WW2, and Korea into The War Of the World.)

  100. Zimriel says:

    As for MLK being murdered by The Deep State – I view this as the Unz funhouse mirror to the Republicans who burble on about how that socialist Was A Republican You Know, and Muh 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    MLK was killed by a patriot who believed, with good reason, that MLK was an anti-American communist. The killing was a murder, yes. Must I grieve? Pff. Do you grieve? Doubtful.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Them Guys
  101. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    Obsolete Farm Equipment

    OFE Plural OFES. pronounced
    ofee or ofees
    It’s a much more polite word than n****r

    Orc or orcs is good too

  102. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Zimriel

    Who cares who killed him,

  103. No reason for us slaves to go killing each other. That is what they want, they being CIA, Wall St, pols, the SWAMP, all the puppets of Israel. This is exactly what they do when they destabilize other countries, turn the people against one another, keep the slaves fighting amongst themselves while they run off with the loot. Don’t know why we continue to fall for this BS.
    We slaves don’t write the laws or control the money. The people that are causing all of this misery do. They also happen to have all the money.
    Follow the money! That is who is the root of all the problems.
    Peace!

  104. @anonymous

    “The 9/11/01 False Flag event”…..

    I respond:

    Ah no.

    So how did those sneaky muslims get all of those very well placed explosives into the WTC buildings?

    Keep in mind Building 7 was home to the CIA and secret service among others.

    Try harder, you really think anyone believes the worn out MSM narrative anymore? Even Trump admitted explosives must have been used. Damn sneaky muslims…they’re good… no wonder they’re kicking our asses everywhere we go..

  105. Wisely, Kevin Barrett wrote: “Though Manson was a raving nut, his vision of race war was inspired by contemporary reality.”
    Hi Kevin,
    Am aboard the dune-buggie nutty reality above, and I am rather certain you have read Manson prosecutor, Vincent Bugliosi’s book, “Helter Skelter.”
    …Troubles me how in a latter chapter of the seminal book, Mr. Bugliosi described how members of a Brit (satanic) cult called “The Process” visited Charles Manson while he underwent trial for serial murders.
    … No doubt, Mr. Barrett, “The Process” was/is
    quite an interesting & sparsely discussed subset of ZUSA’s “contemporary reality.”
    …Thank you very much.

  106. Dick Weed says:

    “In other words, just as the first Civil War was really about race (i.e., slavery) the second one will build on the same theme.”

    Do you really believe that Kevin?

    I stopped reading right there. Heavily disappointed.

  107. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Civil War is already on. It doesn’t have to be with guns.

    Jewish toppling of Wasp elites was a coup.

    • Replies: @Anon
  108. Sean says:

    You should not confuse why Manson ordered attacks with what he told minions he had saturated in LSD, or what prosecutors tried to tar him with.

    Manson wanted to be a pop star.

    Music industry and the Manson murders
    Manson murder victims Leno and Rosemary LaBianca’s home was next to where a long time close friend of Kaufman had rented a house. Manson had attended parties there with Kaufman when still friendly with him: Kaufman has said this was no coincidence.[2][3][4][15][16][17]

    The murder of Sharon Tate and four others, which occurred on the previous night to the attack on the LaBianca home, was also linked with a music industry acquaintance of Manson who he associated with his failures to get a record contract. It was at the 10050 Cielo Drive former home of Terry Melcher, which by then was being rented by the husband of Sharon Tate. Manson had been rebuffed there while looking for Melcher, who had been initially interested in Manson’s music but lost interest after a trip to the Manson commune.[17]

    Prior to the killing of Tate and her four friends, Manson had initiated the murder spree of his followers by ordering the death of Gary Hinman. Mary Brunner was present throughout and the key witness for the prosecution at a trial of some Manson followers for the murder. She testified that Bobby Beausoleil killed Hinman, a musician, because Hinman had refused to join Manson’s band.[18][19]

    I think the far-future was foreseen by Samuel Butler in 1863 .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_among_the_Machines

  109. Sean says:
    @Rurik

    Middle aged, 47 is not old . If Mr “McGlockton” had been a bit less worried about keeping his pants up, he could have turned and avoided being shot. Stand your ground does not cover in-the-back.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  110. Biff says:
    @Rurik

    But what about what’s right?

    No such thing except in math and physics.
    2 + 2 does equal 4
    Gravity is real

    The rest is just a circular argument.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  111. mcohen says:
    @renfro

    I agree.however with the internet shaping opinion it is possible to turn people into racists even though they have no life experiences as you stated.judgement is subverted and placed in the hands of the few.they decide who is the racist and who is the victim of racism

    • Replies: @renfro
  112. joeyz1 says: • Website

    There is even a more plausible series about a coming civil war that focuses on the left vs right political divide that also takes into account the real racial dividing that a breakdown in social order would engender.

    It is the America after the Fall series.

    I found it more possible that other books of the genre.

    https://www.amazon.com/America-After-Fall-Disunited-Patriots-ebook/dp/B00ONB98L4/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1533784950&sr=8-7&keywords=the+disunited+states+of+america

  113. Prophecy.
    At the beginning of comment section I have seen some prophecies.
    So here is my condensed prophecy squeezed into nutshell.

    Prices of agricultural products are increasing with accelerated rate.
    Prices of industrial products are decreasing.
    World population is increasing.
    World resources are constant. Some countries have already exhausted all their resources.

    Globalist system with one world government with credo of full spectrum dominance is dead in its tracks. It is not going to happen. Not even in colored dreams.

    What we have here is rule of the World by triumvirate, USA, China and Russia.
    Then we have here Western Europe, and the rest world of nonaligned countries.

    USA did exhaust foolishly most of its resources. Now they want to dig up Alaska, the former Russian territory. (How desperate can we get.)?
    USA wants to build up their industries that were exported to Far East, due to unbearable trade deficit.

    China steady is building up their industries, but looking for resources in Africa.

    Western Europe did exhaust their resources long time ago.

    There are only two countries relying on their resources Russia and partly Canada.

    USA China and Western Europe will be hungry for resources.

    This will put Russia with most remaining World resources into driving seat.

    Russia is concentrating on agriculture and weapons to protect their resources.
    Smart policy.
    Russia can wait.
    Mother Russia will become maiden again and US, China, and Western Europe will be courting her for her favors.

    BTW; there will not be a WW3 or some another craziness.

  114. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    As I understood at the time, he left it up to the attorney general Janet Reno that office is in charge of the DOJ and the FBI ATFE who besieged the Waco compound.

    Supposedly he always said hiring her was the worst decision of his life.

    But he didn’t fire her.

  115. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    The Jews toppled wasps when they put Wilson into the presidency in 1912.

  116. nsa says:
    @Rational

    Rat, You are on to something. How about several charred corpses suddenly found at the initial Carr fire location, with gasoline cans and say Iranian ID and maybe Revolutionary Guard videos on their phones…..kind of like the 911 patsies. The Joo York times, Washington Compost, and Wall Street Urinal could then gin up the destruction of Iran based on the cowardly arson attack on the USA homeland ordered by the evil ayatollahs. Plausible casus belli?

  117. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I don’t think you are familiar with Chinese hiring practices.

  118. @Achmed E. Newman

    True, true, very few dudes do that sort of stuff with other dudes, with the exception of long-term prison guests, the decadent rich, the deranged, the crazy, and the utterly confused. Now here is where the danger comes in: as the last three categories grow in absolute and relative size in the overall population and as idiocy extends its grip over the land, all bets really should be called off. I wouldn’t bet a dime predicting the behaviour of folks who have been taught from birth that they can choose to be this or that or something in-between and that they may even yoyo back and forth whenever they choose to. Moreover, never underestimate the power of idiocy, and we are fast transitioning to the era which future historians will describe with an almost reverential awe as “The age of mass idiocy”, those being times “when men lost the ability to tell a . from a -”.

  119. @jacques sheete

    We are not a constitutional republic; we are a corporation with a charter that we happen to call a constitution.

    Modern democracy is a sham covering up the all too real and undemocratic exploitation of people, wealth and resources, siphoning it off into the hands of the few, in the name of the many.

    When the modern concepts of the Enlightenment prevail (((liberty, fraternity, equality))) so prevails the tyranny of the State.

    The mega state is a coercive cattle pen for its masters- the banking Titans.

    Most of the lemmings, though,are 4f- and are only concerned with material security and pleasure.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  120. renfro says:
    @mcohen

    I don’t think the internet actually ‘shapes’ racist attitudes or opinions …..what it does is put out news and stories — whether true or fake—that validates or adds to the person’s already established personal opinions, prejudice or preferences.

    So people need to seriously vet the sources of their info for any agendas in the source.

  121. @Them Guys

    I’m likin’ you more and more… count me in.

  122. @Heros

    Fascinating stuff! I knew the area well. The “coincidences” are remarkable. Thanks.

  123. mcohen says:

    I agree.to control facts on the ground you need to control the flow of information in both directions,both the positive and negative.
    A good example is the way Russia ran the information direction in the Ukraine.they declared the Ukrainian nationalists Nazi’s (negative) and at the same time attacked them (positive). That’s my small world opinion.I just cannot work out how the shooting down of the Malaysian jet figures in all of that.

  124. anastasia says:

    On the news today was the story about a man having some kind of conclave of school age kids teaching them how to be school shooters. Apparently, these conclaves are in more than one place. The media said that the FBI was acting very mysteriously about its investigation of same.

    • Replies: @anastasia
  125. anastasia says:
    @anastasia

    https://www.ajc.com/news/local/georgia-dad-due-court-new-mexico-officials-try-boy-body/tkuab0XLsqToGu0Ws8i2YK/

    In addition, this guy who is training kids to be school shooters was involved in the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, which we know was instigated by a agent provocateur of the FBI

  126. @Rurik

    Agree with every point you expressed.

    Last week, there was a thread devoted to this case at Reason’s Hit & Run. I argued that the use of deadly force was justified given the violence with which the thug visited upon the shooter. Some of the usual suspects thought the shoot unjustified and ascribed racism to those of us who noted the fact that the thug was black.

    Note the manner in which the thug handled the situation: he immediately resorts to violence. To be sure, if it was my wife who was getting an earful from a stranger, my adrenaline would rise, but I would not go right to Astrolopithecus Africanus mode as the thug did.

    Like you, I do not wish any harm to become of any individual because of his pigmentation; however, we should not ignore the pack of pachyderm in the room: black social dysfunction.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  127. @Stonehands

    Stonehands wrote thoughtfully: “The mega state is a coercive cattle pen for its masters- the banking Titans.”
    Hi Stonehands,
    In this article, Kevin Barrett frequently & convincingly mentioned existence of the “Deep State.” Fyi, I am a believer!
    … Nontheless, you seem to deepen the “Deep State” concept and call such the “mega state.”
    … A point which may or may not prompt interest to you?
    … Given there is verifiable evidence of a Deep Mega State running the ZUSA “cattle pen,” I offer the thought that there is a “Shallow State” which is encouraged to pretend viability, & prevent an “Animal Farm” style uprising, unless of course such is in the (timeframe) interest of the “Deep/Mega State” business plan & goals.
    … Selah, a government is like an ocean, deep and shallow parts, selah, and according to lunar tide predilection, the shallow part gets deeper.

  128. prusmc says: • Website
    @Rurik

    What was the result? Was the shooter convicted if so of What? Did the knock down artist die?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  129. DanFromCt says:
    @Anon

    These supposedly smoldering clashes have all the marks of farcical CIA/Sorosian public theater, such as Ferguson where there were more white cameramen and directors than rent-a-riot blacks bused in from out of town to wreck a few cars for the cameras. It reminds me of a union demonstration I watched up close in NYC years ago, where a bunch of freakish looking old people with bullhorns we’re off camera in the back, leading hey-hey, ho-ho style chants, grabbing Hispanic hotel workers by the arm, and then shoving them forward like dummies. None of this stuff has any existence unless the Deep State’s TV crews are there filming it all, with Fox and CNN playing their rubes on the left and right for suckers with confirmation-bias spin promoting more surveillance and control. Even this game with Mueller is looking more like theater than partisan politics lately.

    I don’t think there’ll be a civil war, unless it’s staged, with no long term objective beyond a prosaic imposition of one domestic and international compliance regime after the other until a totalitarian hell on earth for humanity is completed by stealth. Freedom goes out without even a whimper. The model is already fully developed in areas like banking, trade, epidemiology, airline ops, etc., where technocrats whose existence is a function of money operate way beyond the reach of ludicrous nonsense such as political parties, freedom, and democracy. What’s real is that the DHS should be named the DDC, or Dept of Domestic Compliance. When was the last time we got to vote on the Fed or those transformative decisions of the Supreme Court? The useless GOP now shows its true colors, opposing the moves of freedom-loving patriots at every turn, but what should we expect when we don’t even go to our own local party meetings while operatives surely do and give us compliant weasels like Ryan and McConnell as candidates?

    There will be no end to regulations—of the Internet, elimination of cash, control of the distribution of goods a la Amazon, water use, even breeding—, or so the deep state hopes, administered by untouchable, treaty protected, international compliance regimes. As Wendell Berry pointed out right after 911, there’ll be no more wars, either, since nowhere on the planet will there exist any group or interest capable of resisting the global compliance regime, all the more effective for being largely invisible and having no name. The GOP and Conservatism Inc seem to exist primarily to prevent us from taking action while we still have the chance.

  130. @Them Guys

    Thus the nototious bumper sticker observed years ago in the former CSA captital city: ” If I’d known it was gonna be this bad, I would’a picked my own damn cotton “.

  131. Rurik says:
    @Sean

    Middle aged, 47 is not old

    you can tell from the video he’s hunched over, looks frail

    if it was a burly man in his 30s, and the thug wanted to take on an equal, well then I’d feel different about it. But the reason these cowardly thugs are so contemptible, is because they invariably target victims who’re weak and frail.

    Stand your ground does not cover in-the-back.

    he wasn’t shot in the back.

    • Replies: @Sean
  132. Rurik says:
    @Biff

    what’s right?

    No such thing except in math and physics.
    2 + 2 does equal 4
    Gravity is real

    The rest is just a circular argument.

    if someone rapes your wife or daughter

    will you be Ok with it so long as the perp tells you 2 + 2 = 4 ?

    or would you put bullet holes in them?

    IOW if someone used a gun to menace a victim so he could rob or rape them, (perhaps murder them afterwards) – then that is an use of a gun that is “not right”, according to a view of human existence that treats such act universally as ‘wrong’. With a mathematical certainty.

    And if you were to find that person, and then use a gun to send them to their reward, well then that is a use of a gun that all sane people would consider ‘right’, (good and proper and admirable)

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @Biff
  133. Them Guys says:
    @renfro

    renfro: Sorry but I see No real rise from the south. More darkies and illegal mex’s pouring in yes….More confed hero statues destroyed, yes….With a very small subset of Whites Protesting these events and losing each time. Plus it seems whenever any real pro whitey protest chance arises…It fast is infiltrated by Idiots with swastika arm bands, Nazi flags, and a sub group of white infiltrators that have the dress and look of kkk sterotypes etc. I have begun to think such infiltrations, are a product of well planned G. Soros or Klinton globalist foundation $$$$ paid to various “Leaders” who bambozzle those idiots into going to join a protest or march event.

    I also firmly believe those paid agitator leaders are very smart, and able to locate these type dupes who are not smart enough to realize they are being duped and duped big time. They really believe to carry Nazi flags or to wear arm bands is somehow akin to when savage negro ghetto dwellers act in “Stickin it To The Man!”……But it never works out like that eh. It only and always hugely Dis-credits the Main group who Are good whiteys and doing good.

    Personally I rather reside in where it remains warm weather all year..But in Up North Mid west regions like here in Northern lower penn. Mich, aprox 200 miles North of Detroit where I live since 1995, it is far more likely to remain 99% all white. Snow & Cold deters blacks and illegal mex’s very swell it seems. Plus Orig ancient lands of White folk were cold snowy regions. Whitey can hack it very good…Builds Character eh!

    And here in north areas even life long dems have an entire different mind set when compared to large city dems, like dems in Detroit where I lived from birth until age 43 yrs old. Huge difference of dems minds here than there. And EVERY household here contains a firearm with home owner who Knows how to use and what its for etc. Hence, close to zero crime and zero serious crimes typically.

    I just don’t think the south is ever going to do much at all at this point. I Do see a huge influx of southern boys headed North to areas like I am in now, “If” a real actual SHTF type events ever do happen and happen nationwide scale..Face facts…Barely Anyone besides Whites here is a Huge Bonus and a big Plus factor in any real shtf events…So Come on Up..Ya’ll, Hear! Many here with between 10 acres like me to as large land sizes as 1,000 acres with Mich having More grand total Acres of a combo of State And national Fed Forest lands, than all other States has.

    IIRC its close to or even greater than, 4+ Million acres forests. Huron National Forest I can Walk aprox a 1.5 miles and be in it. It spreads across Mich for about 150–200 Miles E to West. Very huge.

    And I do pity any foolish ghetto clowns or dem lib pansy asses who Dare to come here or seek us out in such forest lands…Bad mistake. Bring guns, $$$, Gear, Foods etc, And a cheep or even nice costly fifth wheel trailer to Park and Live in and put it on My land or I will locate another piece land for good Ol’ Southern Brothers eh!…..Safety in Numbers…

    • Replies: @renfro
  134. Them Guys says:
    @Rurik

    Black Panther’s have always been known to be a very dangerous Animal species to Humans.

    And with todays stats showing something like close to, 18-20-Million Legal Armed CCW weapon carriers nationwide, within about 45+ States combined, and growing greater numbers of CCW Lic persons weekly….To still remain as a Black Panther deadly to Humans Animal? Plain and Pure Stupid.

    Perhaps if they return to just being low IQ stupid Gorillas and Chimps, we All would fare quite better eh.

    Disclaimer: No This opinion does Not include the, approximate 5 to 10% of Normal Good African person’s I am 99% certain exist within America. It is only that Other 90–95% of troublesome and violence Prone of their race we need be concerned about.

    Prosecute the Guilty, and always protect those that are innocent. Even if so Few of the latter exist.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  135. Rurik says:
    @Liberty Mike

    the thug handled the situation: he immediately resorts to violence.

    the whole Travon farce was foisted upon us all with the express intent of doing away with the Stand Your Ground law in Florida.

    The orcs and their ((legions of apologists)) don’t like the law. It has been used on several occasions to protect decent citizens from prosecution for doing the right thing, and protecting themselves from assault, rape, murder and assorted atrocities being waged against the law abiding citizenry by savage, hatred-consumed sub-humans.

    What these people want, is the kind of society where a ‘knockout game’ mentality pervades our daily lives. Where people are menaced by assorted orcs and thugs on the streets and in the stores, restaurants.. and public spaces.. every day of their deplorable lives. (isn’t that what Maxine exhorted her orcs to do, menace the Deplorables “with a crowd” wherever you see them?)

    That’s one of the main reasons they want to collect the guns. Because guns are the great equalizers, and the orcs (and their apologists)), hate that leveling of the battle field.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Them Guys
  136. Them Guys says:
    @CCZ

    Wow! Maybe a dozen of Us guys need get together and Visit Philly on a reg monthly basis, to…Kinda, Stock Up on various items we need, and enough Low level Cash$$$ rip offs we can pull to keep Us in Clover until next month’s adventure back to Philly so to, Wash–Rinse–Repeat! This is almost too good to be true eh!

    ps: I know prior Detroit Bad ass Biker guys, that have Plenty experience in various expertise such as, Lock Picking, Gaining entry into buildings large or small without leaving any Traces, including DNA traces…Plus many more “Skills” I wont likely mention here in a public space forum eh. I’d wager many of them Biker guys would be very interested in monthly vacation trips to, No Bust for crimes Philly….Profit potentials are Endless and as seen on TV ads….Priceless!

    • Replies: @bluedog
  137. Rurik says:
    @prusmc

    What was the result? Was the shooter convicted if so of What? Did the knock down artist die?

    no charges for the old dude defending himself, at least as far as the sheriff is concerned. A clear case of SYG. State Attorney General may decide different.

    Thug is dead.

  138. Them Guys says:
    @Zimriel

    Anybody here yet seen the New made for TV show on Starz network channels called….

    “Rest in Power…Travon Martin”?…..I have not and wont see it, but I do predict this will replace their old worn out movie of “Root’s” as the New every year broadcast tv movie used to Geek Up USA Negros and Cause more reasons for typical Inner City, Mass Riots of Looters, Shooters, and Arsonist Burners.

    With perhaps a brand New MSM Meme of…”Blame Whitey for Inventing Matches, Bic-lighters-and Flammable Liquids such as Gasoline and Kerosene, for if none were ever Invented by Whites, Negro rioters and Looters, acting on behalf of their King of Looters aka MLK Jr. would not be setting massive huge Fires in their own Hood’s, and Torching to Ash, every grocery store and gas station that existed. So that once Fires die down, Po..Po…Negro Ghetto dwellers have zero places to shop at!

    Indeed, Blame Whitey.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  139. Rurik says:
    @Them Guys

    approximate 5 to 10% of Normal Good African person’s I am 99% certain exist within America. It is only that Other 90–95% of troublesome and violence Prone of their race we need be concerned about.

    well, I live in a very diverse place. (it wasn’t when I moved here, but c’est la vie)

    Most of the diversity (including the blacks) are fine souls. But you can sense the divide.

    Being an irredeemable and deplorable person makes you suspect. If you’re white, the ‘diversity’ wonders if you’re one of those Nazi,KKK,”white supremacists” that voted for Trump.

    Not all, but some. Enough I would say, that the tenor of life in a diverse place has taken on a new ‘flavor’, so to speak.

    There seems to be a palpable fear that the trajectory that had whitey going down the drain but fast, has slowed down a pitch, and that has a lot of them very, very angry.

  140. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    Hey Rurik,

    I’ve seen a video of that attack on the bus. The witnesses say the man was yelling that God told him to kill the sick; “The sick must die!”

    Which is why he targeted the blind woman specifically – here is a longer video:

    Don’t know about the second video, but it seems obvious the first one has little to do with race rather than some guy having a very dangerous mental problem. If we are to take his statements into account, he wasn’t just going to punch her, he was going to kill her for being blind.

    The second situation is probably best dealt with by an eye-for-an-eye solution. He got a good hit on her, she gets one good free and clear hit on him (and she can delegate her right to someone like Tyson – I’m sure he wouldn’t mind obliging).

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @RadicalCenter
  141. Them Guys says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik: Many anti gun libs often use for their argument the biblical well known verse of…”He who Lives by the sword/Gun…..Will also Die by the Sword/Gun (Guns in Todays world).” Typically stated with a very Smug Lib dem Know what’s best for All, attitude…But, what they always Fail to comprehend or even think of is that, In order for Bad use of the sword or gun, IE: Murders etc. User to also likewise get Killed By a sword/Gun….Then…It Must imply, even though not stated in that verse, that in order for bad users of a sword/gun/weapon to likewise cease to exist and die via same type weapon aka sword or gun, there Has to be, Must also be, Good Persons also well armed ready and willing to Do the deed of Killing the perps via same weapon means correct?

    Yes very correct. I rekon such wisdom is too difficult for one track goofy minded and anti gun brainwashed libs to ever consider eh.

    Somebody Has to be that Good weapon owner whom does the “Pay back” Killing in Kind, for that bible verse to even make any sense.

    Also when it comes to a self defense shooter or shooting to defend another victim, all what matters Most in legal terms and court case is….Was the self defense shooter justified in thinking or believing, what any sane, normal, person would perceive or consider a, Valid reason for shooter to believe he or she was in Immediate Threat of being Greatly Bodily harmed, less than death, OR Immediate Threat of Death to himself or herself, if at That Precise Moment, he or she did not point and fire the gun at perp of actions at hand.

    Nothing else matters. Either fast immediate action was absolutely necessary in order to Stop the Offender Perps deadly actions…..Or it wasn’t…..

    And do Not ever listen to any idiot who advises you to Drag perp Into Home if you shoot him on front porch! Or advises You to “Just wound perp via arm or leg hit so perp don’t die” etc.

    Wrong advise and Will cost many years in Prison if it goes to court, which is almost certain to do so.

    If you have enough time to think and reason it all out to simply shoot at an arm or leg of perp, and think of sparing his life etc….Then you had time to Leave or perp was Not really posing life vs death scenario at that time frame, so if you shoot you Lose.

    This is main reason most States Require an 8-12 Hr CCW pistol carry course, taught by Both a trained NRA or other type Teacher and an Lawyer in a two part class teaching proper use and carry and gun safety and gun cleaning methods etc…With a Lawyer present to teach legalities and answer all related legal questions from class members….Now you can and should carry a ccw weapon at all legal times and places….For You just…Never…Know, what or when Bad things are about to Overcome You or Your’s…Or another innocent victim you may help out.

    Use extreme Caution though, in actions to defend another or a stranger person who may be or become a victim of a crime or perp killer. One never knows every detail in what led up to it usually. What “If” You perceive a woman is a victim or soon shall be a victim of a bad guy perp, and turns out Perp guy is Her Husband and its an argument between them? And You shot him thinking its a good saving her act?….You go to prison for Murder! When she/wifey claims its all a huge mistake and her hubby was not going to do phys harm to her or whatever…

    Moral of story is…Careful when acting as a Hero!

    Like that famous writer guy of 500 yrs ago, Shakeaspear, said…”To Shoot, or, Not to Shoot….That Is The question”

    • Replies: @Rurik
  142. Them Guys says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik: I agree. And yet another very important point to make is that. Every time someone, usually goofy sissified libs, decide to play “fair or nicey nice” and allow say a home invader perp to Leave and remain alive…..What many do not ever consider of is that, doing so, allow perp invader to leave if he promises to not try that again at their home…..Is…How Many Other fully innocent persons, or women home alone are going to very likely get raped and or murdered by that “Little affirmative action perp who never had a real chance in life” they set free prior when he was invading their home?

    And every single illegal act, Rape, Murder, House B& E events that same perp commits Later after set free by stupid lib hand wringer worry wart, will be ON them too…Even if no legal actions taken against whoever let perp escape prior, happens…It is Still them who is an accomplice to every further criminal action perpetrated by same perp they let go. And history shows such perps typically never change for better, only get worse and such freebee second chances from lib types cause perp to think “Hey that was so Easy!” “The stupid lib bitch let me go!” which wrong bad attitude will usually create a worse more violent future perp out of the already criminalistic perp.

    So, when found in your home or home entered while you are in it, shoot to kill, and be certain perps deader than door nails…So no just wounded perp can later tell attending police when they arrive soon after, “Gee Officers..I just asked to use the Phone to call a bro for ride home! And that White Man/Woman after letting me into house to make phone call….Then jumped up and Shot little Ol’ me a poor innocent African black dude officers!”….Guess what cops do next eh?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  143. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Mis(ter)Anthrope

    Literally zero Southerners owned slaves. That is, those Southerners who are alive today have owned precisely zero slaves. I have no idea how what long dead people did is relevant to the moral worth of those alive today. Is there ever a reason actually given?

  144. Them Guys says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik: I get what you say, I did reside in Detroit and surrounding nearby Detroit areas from birth until age 43 yrs old…So, yeah I get it as you stated it. However, the real main question is. How Many of perceived “Good” folk, shall Remain same good folk, if or when a true shtf event happens?

    Not many folks at all, especially repubs ever figured they would ever see Good Lifelong Repub voters such as Gen. Colin Powel, or Condi Rice….Vote, not just once but, Twice for Hobammy dem for us prez?….Both finally admitted on live tv news, I viewed Powel saying it on fox news once. And when Colin Powel was asked by fox tv anchor, “Why and How did You a lifelong Staunch Repub conservative voter and member of high office in GW admin. Ever decide to cast votes in Two terms for Hobammy?”……Colin stammered a bit, said “Well I too never saw myself ever voting for any dem lib…But…(Yeah here comes that proverbial, But eh) But Hobammy being a Black African, and to have a black us prez was such an Historical, Moment….I just had no other option but to cast a vote for hobammy for us prez.”

    In laymans terms…”Well I, like Condi Rice, simply voted Black like 95% of all blacks always vote dem, because I am black, He too is black and That’s what Matters Most!”

    “IF” any type real nationwide SHTF events happens…I believe Most Blacks No Matter how swell or good they have been nor for how long been so swell or good of a black person….It will all change 180 degrees in a NY moment….and if You are a White person?…You will Then be Enemy number one in their dark eyes. No if’s, and’s, or but’s about it. For its just how it is, is all.

    • Agree: Rurik, RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Stonehands
    , @Corvinus
  145. @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    “….And whites to self-destructive altruism.”

    No, don’t make excuses for our leftist, Caucasian enemies.. they are narcissists.

  146. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    Ok, it may not have been about race, but to the point of SYG, who would object if someone on that bus would have plugged the thug right after the first punch?

    I don’t care if you’re a racist or a thief or a crazed religious lunatic. Violently sucker punching a blind woman, as far as I’m concerned, earns you a ticket to a dirt nap.

    The second situation is probably best dealt with by an eye-for-an-eye solution.

    Well Talha, as much as I respect (some of) the harsh punishments meted out under Sharia, I’d be all for a ‘disproportionate’ and ‘escalated’ response for someone like the ‘knockout game’ thug in the second video.

    An eye for an eye, only leaves a sub-human thug with a bruised ego and perhaps broken jaw, (if we could get Mike to oblige, and I agree, I’m sure he wouldn’t mind ; ), but that would only mean that the low-life ‘knockout game’ POS lives to brutalize another human on another day.

    Better to Stand Your Ground, and make the world a much, much safer and happier and more pleasant place all around.

    Isn’t that the kind of aspiration that Muhammad (Pbuh) would likely approve of?

    Peace

    • Replies: @Talha
  147. @Them Guys

    Wow.

    Cunnilingus Rice…

    Colin Powerful…

    Who’d a thunk it?

    Heh.

  148. Rurik says:
    @Them Guys

    goofy minded and anti gun brainwashed libs to ever consider eh.

    Somebody Has to be that Good weapon owner

    their “minds” are a caldron of hypocrisy and feel-goodisms

    Guns in the hands of Diane Feinstein’s or Rosie O’Donnell’s body guards are good.

    Whereas guns in the hands of redneck cracker racists (all white men and especially the police) are evil.

    Not much else room in their tiny ‘minds’ to accommodate anything more nuanced than that.

    The rest of your post is very good advise.

  149. @mcohen

    Are whites racist by nature or by circumstance

    Are you stupid by nature or by circumstance?

    • LOL: Talha
    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @mcohen
  150. @renfro

    But no, I dont think whites or anyone else is racist ‘by nature’ …meaning born that way

    I agree that whites are not born racists. I don’t agree about ‘anyone else’.
    Think Israel.

    • Replies: @renfro
  151. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    who would object if someone on that bus would have plugged the thug right after the first punch?

    Or throwing him out one of the bus windows? Not me. Even if the guy was completely mentally deranged, he was very dangerous and would have likely killed that blind lady (I think she could have been Chinese or Black and he would have done the same since he thought God told him to kill the sick).

    earns you a ticket to a dirt nap.

    Yup.

    An eye for an eye, only leaves a sub-human thug with a bruised ego

    Well, if Mike had a go at it, I think the guy would have to have his jaw wired shut for about half a year and eat nothing but soup. I’m not against SYG – it makes sense to me. Of course, I think each instance should be evaluated by the proper legal authorities to make sure everything was proper. As long as there is an open and public judicial review of it, I see no reason not to adopt it.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  152. Rurik says:
    @Them Guys

    freebee second chances from lib types cause perp to think “Hey that was so Easy!” “The stupid lib bitch let me go!” which wrong bad attitude will usually create a worse more violent future perp

    all true Them Guys,

    and this can be extrapolated 0n to the big picture of ‘criminal justice’ in the West.

    shit like this:

    Broward County school officials in Florida are now admitting that confessed Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz had been assigned to PROMISE, an Obama-era school discipline program that encouraged teachers and principals not to report threatening and assaultive behavior of minority students to law enforcement in order to appear non-discriminatory.

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/07/broward-county-officials-now-admit-nikolas-cruz-was-assigned-to-promise-school-leniency-program/

    that is the exact same thing that motivated the authorities in Rotherham. Let the (monstrous) crimes continue, because doing something to stop them might seem racist.

    This guy takes the cake as patron saint of shitlib self-loathing.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/06/leftist-norwegian-politician-gets-raped-by-somalian-begs-for-him-not-to-be-deported/

    but as you point out..

    Where is that Norwegian politician’s concern for the next Norwegian man or boy who will be that orc’s next victim?

    His job is to represent and protect the citizens of Norway, but to massage his own virtue-signaling ego- as more ‘compassionate’ than yours, and hence superior, he’d condemn other Norwegians to brutal rape.

    I’d like to see the two of them sent in chains to Somalia. The politician can go as the rapist’s trophy, and perhaps he can be pimped out until there’s nothing left of him.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  153. Sean says:
    @Rurik

    The second man instantly veers away when he sees the man on the ground drawing a gun. McGlockton had time to see that Drejka, the man he had just pushed to the floor, was taking out a gun, and McGlockton might have reacted by turning on his heel and moving away with his back to the man on the ground, but because he was busy pulling his pants up he wasted a vital second or two. If McGlockton had his back to Drejka, and was moving away, Drejka would not have dared open fire. Drejka is frail for man of his age but he is a Q ship, he knew he had a gun, and he deliberately started something that was almost certain to get a husband coming out and at least confronting him. Drejka has a history too, he once threatened to shoot a trucker over a parking space.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  154. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    SYG – it makes sense to me. Of course, I think each instance should be evaluated by the proper legal authorities to make sure everything was proper.

    that’s where it gets interesting..

    because there are so many ways to interpret the evidence. That’s why I posted that video.

    The blacks in that neighborhood are angry and protesting that the shooter in that case is not being arrested. They feel the use of deadly force was not justified. They feel that it was enough to brandish the gun, and then no loss of life.

    And perhaps they have a point. Certainly if there was audio, and we could hear the old white guy shouting at the girlfriend and calling her a ‘useless POS [email protected]@er! Then we might even justify the black dude’s violent response.

    So many nuanced ways of looking at it.

    But for me, I guess I’m at the point where the ‘spirit of the law’ is what’s important. And if the old guy was simply reprimanding the driver, politely and with respect, and then the boyfriend comes out and sees a Deplorable (white = racist) lecturing his gal, and does what comes natural to so many of them, violence.. Well then, I have no problem with a citizen removing such genes from the gene pool.

    I often have to drive in congested streets in a region notorious for rude drivers. They’ll make eye contact with you, to make sure you see them, so that when they pull out right in front of you (and cause you to lock up your brakes and send your vehicle’s contents flying to the windshield), they just wanted to be sure you saw then so that you’d slam on your brakes, so they can be on their way, (a few seconds sooner than if they’d have waited for you to drive past them)

    Sometimes it leads to what’s called ‘road rage’, and people are even (understandably) shot.

    Well, where I’m going with this… Is I remember telling my gal after one such display- that the ‘problem these days is that not enough people are armed. Because if everybody was armed, we’d have a far, far more polite society.

    And, I explained, it isn’t just because they’d be more thoughtful, thinking they might get shot if they pull out right in front of someone, but also that if they did, they’d be removed from the gene pool. And then they’d be that much less likely to have asshole children.

    I went on to explain to her (not that she was listening anymore ; ), that this was the beauty of the ‘Wild West’. Because if you barged into the saloon, and knocked some guy’s drink or bumped into his ‘lady friend’, and didn’t say ‘excuse me’, then likely the ‘lady’ would pull out a derringer and the saloon custodian (town drunk) would flop the corpse in the shed behind the saloon with the other two. And this is the key here…

    because once the lady with her derringer finished her civic duty, the heap on the floor would no longer pose a genetic threat to the future of the community or beyond.

    (By that time my gal was watching a smart phone video and wasn’t listening to a word I was saying ; ).

    Peace

  155. Rurik says:
    @Sean

    and he deliberately started something that was almost certain to get a husband coming out and at least confronting him

    I’ve don’t it before too.

    I used to get a bit peeved when I would see a healthy person park in the last remaining handicap parking space. I felt it was a rude thing to do. Until one day this young couple in their thirties or so, parked in such a spot. And all I did was make a comment. But the dude was not happy about my do-gooderness. And he walked up to me and said that if he could, he would rip my heart out, right there and then, and drive it to the nearest hospital to have it donated to his wife, who it seems had been though a half-dozer or so heart surgeries, and none had sufficed to heal her malady.

    So she was a frail and delicate flower, taking each breath with tenuous hold on life, and I felt like a shit. I could tell they were both genuine, and he had some kind of credential that he showed me, (which I looked for in the truck but didn’t see). Anyways, I mind my own business now.

    But even if the guy was truculent, that didn’t justify him being slammed to the parking lot the way the thug did it.

    Like I said, what Michael Brown did to the shopkeep, would have earned him a well-placed bullet just for that, (and then would have saved that police man from all that aggravation).

    If you’re a vicious and violent thug, who has zero respect for the dignity and well-being of your fellow man, and have no compunctions about beating him or punching him vis-a-vis a ‘game’, or even mugging him (or her, of course) then I personally have no problem with citizens putting lots of holes in your stinking pelt.

    But that’s just me. ;)

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Sean
  156. Talha says:

    By that time my gal was watching a smart phone video and wasn’t listening to a word I was saying ;)

    LOL – yeah – I know. In general, you’ll likely get much more unanimity in opinion among males of various backgrounds on this subject because we are naturally geared to be protectors and don’t want to have our hands tied in that regard.

    A good article on this:

    https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/the-3-ps-of-manhood-protect/

    They usually appreciate our role in protecting, but would rather not discuss or be privy as to the details of how we get the business done. Just like how we like them to put makeup on but would rather not discuss the details of how it gets done.

    Peace.

    • Agree: Rurik
  157. @Heros

    Manson was best buddies with Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys and lived with him for months, IIRC. He was a big part of the Laural Canyon MKUltra scene, and was obviously a CIA agent, whether witting or unwitting.

    Dave McGowan, who died young of a rare and strange fast acting cancer, goes into depth on the entire fake hippy/counter culture movement. It was all CIA astroturf and Manson was too.

    Don’t forget Henry Ford! His International Jew was solely to distract us from his MKUltra activities. He worked tirelessly to get us into soybeans as energy and food source, destroying the petroleum and atomic energy sectors as well as creating neutered modern Soy Boys. And don’t forget that without the Ford Foundation, Obama wouldn’t have happened since his mommy wouldn’t have gone to Indonesia and sent him back to Hawaii to be transformed into the Manchurian Candidate. Lastly, when Ford added rear seats to his cars it was for the express purpose of encouraging procreation by idiots at drive-in movies yielding an entire generation of mindless imbeciles like you cite above.

    Well done!

  158. anarchyst says:
    @Them Guys

    One must understand the defective pathology that exists in the minds of almost all blacks. You see, “young master trayvon felt “disrespected” for being asked what business he had in that community. (Any ordinary civilized person would have stated that he had relatives there and would have been on his way). His only possible response (due to his defective black pathology) was to pummel and murder Mr. Zimmerman. In this way, he would regain his “respect”. If “young master trayvon” had been successful in murdering Mr. Zimmerman, it would not even make the evening news. It would definitely not be reported as a “(racial) hate crime”.
    Mr. Zimmerman was being railroaded at the behest of the race apologists, poverty pimps, and race hustlers. The prosecutor should be brought up on charges of malfeasance of office for charging Mr. Zimmerman. . .without convening a grand jury. . .

    Why was the so-called “news media” so intent on persecuting George Zimmerman?? It is evident that Zimmerman was “jumped” while heading back to his car and that the “thug” trayvon got what he deserved . . . the urban black “underclass has a disdain for education, finds “disrespect” under every rock, does not know what REAL “respect” is, and is generally a “menace to society”. trayvon was “casing houses” NOT going to the store to buy “skittles”.
    Any civilized person would have answered the neighborhood watch guy that he had been visiting relatives, but not trayvon. . . trayvon’s feral underclass upbringing led to his demise . . .

    Pretty simple folks… some government officials certainly DO NOT want Zimmerman getting away with taking deadly action against someone like Trayvon, as you see this could send a very “dangerous message” that it is OK for everyday folk and even “cop wannabe’s” to actually stand tall making the decision that “WE”RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE and fight back to stop Trayvon gang-thug-punks that plague our society! (Which whether “cop-wannabe” or not is legal and I wish there were MORE “cop-wannabe’s” like George to stop the “gang-leader wannabe’s” like Trayvon) Trayvon WAS casing residences for future burglaries (opportunities).
    The Facts: Zimmerman had a legitimate suspicion that Trayvon might be up to no good because there had been 19 break-in’s and a few violent altercations recently, and all committed in that neighborhood by a young black male exactly fitting Trayvon’s description. Zimmerman (like I & most Americans should be) wasn’t going to let anymore crimes happen when he could possibly do something about it. George did NOT engage the little hood after calling 911, he only followed at a distance to ensure the little hellion didn’t get away. Trayvon (if he really was innocent) at that juncture should simply have said “who are you, can I help you man? Look I just went for some Watermelon juice and Skittles man, and I’m headed back to my dad’s place, he lives here; I don’t want any trouble. I’ll call the cops if you’re gonna hassle me” Then kept walking or even ran home; hell call 911 even. BUT NO… he decided that running around in the dark, sneaking up and beating a fat white guy down would be kinda fun and good for his punk-ego as well as some MMA practice for thug-training… after all (as we’ve all been filled full of the fact that) guys on official watch (at least supposedly) aren’t allowed to carry guns on duty so the demon-filled Trayvon is obviously listening to the voices say “what could he do to fight back against a well-trained gang-thug like you?”… Lucky for GZ (and all of us who LIKE the message he sent) he wasn’t “officially” on watch that night, he just kept alert and noticed a suspect exactly matching the description of all their troubles; so he could be armed (as a private citizen legally can by 2nd Amendment rights. In Fact he could have actually arrested Trayvon under a citizen’s arrest, legally. Yes even in Florida, look it up. AND even after a 911 operator tells him “we don’t need you to” or whatever.. He STILL legally can because 911 operators are NOT the boss of us!). So AFTER George got beat on enough that he felt afraid of being killed or hospitalized by this little şĥȋťĥȩąď (I would not have let it get that far) he shot the gang-thug-punk! Just because Trayvon brought his fists to a gunfight and lost… Ooops guess Trayvon shouldn’t have been quite so bold as to think he could keep getting away with thuggin’ muggin’ theivin’ and whatever else he wanted to perpetrate on others at will with no fear of reprisal!! MORE Americans should do what GZ did and thuggery would STOP!

    • Agree: Them Guys
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @Rurik
  159. Them Guys says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    He’s Jewish, but he did sleep at a holiday inn last night, So I heard.

  160. mcohen says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Croak and dangle made a joke.

    http://www.readersdigest.com.au/true-stories-lifestyle/are-we-natural-born-racists

    You are too easily led down the slippery slope of public opinion.not born stupid but borderline idiotic due to soft drinks.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-we-all-racists-deep-inside/

    “Project implicit” by google.who knows maybe one day you will wake up

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  161. Them Guys says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik: Seems we agree on quite a bit of what manly is simple common sense and logic eh. Plus issues that really are of a true lawful nature that in older times, like wild west era, folks had zero problems comprehending. Then came Frankfurt Cultural Marxist school ideals and agendas….Downhill from there.

    Too Many folks today, regardless of their skin color or political bent, fully disregard facts and proper laws in order to be one with the crowd. Group Thinkers and actors. Those Whitey “I can prove I Love Negroes More than You do” types.

    Oh and, I forgot to include before that, in a self defense issue as discussed prior, there is also a key factor many folks do not know or consider of…and it is what law and lawyers call, Disparet (sp?) Force of attacker guy…Ie: When the victims perp attacker is far larger size person, or in other ways has a far superior ability over intended victim. Like Old man week and frail vs big hulking much younger an stronger of an attacker….It figures into the overall self defense act much greater than if attacker guy is more equal in size etc. Many people simply never seem to consider that as a factor and in a court room case it can play heavy in favor of victim.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  162. renfro says:
    @Them Guys

    renfro: Sorry but I see No real rise from the south.

    I was referring to economic rise in the South…….and the Yankees who want to retire here.
    All the Yankees want property ‘ on the water ‘ …so we sell them some swamp land with a creek and charge them waterfront prices….lol

    • LOL: Them Guys
  163. @anarchyst

    Any ordinary civilized person would have stated that he had relatives there and would have been on his way

    And any ordinary anti-authoritarian smartass like myself would have stated, “I just blew a load in your wife’s face for $5, now you can have McDonalds for dinner, you’re welcome.”

    No, I don’t have many friends. No, I never get invited to go out in public. But neither do I get shot for sucker punching “white hispanics” interrupting me as I case neighborhoods for burglary and home invasion opportunities…

  164. Although some good points are made, Kevin could not be more wrong about the cause of the first Civil War. Just like now day’s, you don’t have to look past the kike’s for the instigation and failure of the south to win its independence in the first Civil War.

    http://tomatobubble.com/id866.html

  165. Rurik says:
    @anarchyst

    “young master trayvon” had been successful in murdering Mr. Zimmerman, it would not even make the evening news. It would definitely not be reported as a “(racial) hate crime”.

    you’re right

    It never is. ‘Teens’ assaulted some people in a wave of violence the police are calling random crimes’

    I even suspect they know the motive of the Las Vegas shooting, but won’t divulge it because of certain ‘sensitivities’.

  166. Biff says:
    @Rurik

    Round and round you go.

  167. Rurik says:
    @Them Guys

    When the victims perp attacker is far larger size person, or in other ways has a far superior ability over intended victim.

    ….It figures into the overall self defense act

    yes, as it should.

    If the dude who shoved the old guy was instead taking on a hulking man his own size or bigger, I’d see the whole thing differently.

    Beating up on people who are obviously much weaker and smaller, older, etc.. than you, is the mark of a cowardly scumfuck, and that is why he deserved the bullet.

    If it were a fair fight between two equally matched people, then it’d be a different situation.

    btw, will be off the computer for a few days.

    Cheers

  168. renfro says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    I agree that whites are not born racists. I don’t agree about ‘anyone else’.
    Think Israel

    Yes Jews are a different case—-although the ‘taught racism’ applies to a degree.
    I am more and more convinced in their case that it is ‘inherited”…..genetically passed.
    Neuroscience has proved that *structural changes occur in the brain when subjected to stress (like PTSD) …..or ‘repeated influences’…i.e….beliefs and or teachings repeated over and over within a group for generations.
    Duke University neuroscientist found these structural changes in the brain are ‘inheritable’…can be genetically passed down thru generations.
    Humans aren’t that different from animals–for instance in experiments with animals researchers found that if they expose animals to a certain odor like cherry blossoms while giving them a eltroshock that when those animals reproduce and their offspring totally removed from the mother at birth….that offspring will have the same fear response to the smell of cherry blossoms the mother had.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  169. @Rurik

    There seems to be a palpable fear that the trajectory that had whitey going down the drain but fast, has slowed down a pitch, and that has a lot of them very, very angry.

    Absolutely. This is the key. I have noticed this exact same thing. Here in Canada, it is said we are always eight years behind the USA. (Harper was our neo-con, Trudeau was our Obama). Right now, these minorities have the idea that whitey is going down the drain fast, so they run around as if they are kings. I always had a feeling that they felt the same way in the USA.

    The truth is that these 3rd worlders only respect strength. When whites are weak, they run around like monkeys. When whites show some balls, like in America, they start to dial it back a bit. They get angry, but they also back off. They need to be put in their place.

    Most of the diversity (including the blacks) are fine souls. But you can sense the divide.

    Agree on this too. The coloured people here (Indians, Chinamen, etc) are not bad people but there is still the divide going on. It’s only going to get worse.

    One depressing thing though – Canada is worse off than the USA. The USA had a shockingly high white birthrate for quite some time, and even now it’s much higher than Canada’s. Trudeau seems to sense the white awakening so he is cramming as many people as possible into this country.

    BTW – Can I ask what state you’re in?

  170. anarchyst says:
    @renfro

    You are making an attempt to validate the latest jewish holocaust ™ swindle…not good.
    The latest jewish “holocaust ™” swindle is that of the “holocaust ™ transference syndrome” where (only) jewish “holocaust™ memories are transferred to their children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and even to unrelated persons. This claim by two jewish psychiatrists is gaining traction among jewish “holocaust ™” promoters in order to “keep the dream alive” and to “keep the reparations and shekels flowing”. You see, these children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and other unrelated individuals are also seen as jewish “holocaust ™” survivors, worthy of reparations and special treatment.
    When will it end?
    It is long overdue to put the jewish holocaust ™ lies and fabrications to rest.

    • Replies: @renfro
  171. Thomm says:

    In other news, an SJW white male shoots a Nationalist-Leftist white male :

    http://theothermccain.com/2018/08/09/crazy-people-are-dangerous-democrat-shoots-man-after-facebook-quarrel/

    It is telling that the WN wigger was less competent than even the fat SJW. Then again, both are leftists, merely of different types.

  172. @mcohen

    Many a true word is spoken in jest.

  173. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Rational

    http://www.population-security.org/


    Why has the Vatican taken its “open-borders” position on immigration into the U.S.?

    DISUNITING OF AMERICA

    Certainly the Vatican is a sophisticated political institution and recognizes that America’s bonds of national cohesion are fragile and that factionalism can tear our country apart. Obviously, the Vatican would be gravely threatened by an influential, united, organized America committed to population growth control. It would be hard to deny that the Catholic Church has a vested interest in ethnic identification and that it has repudiated the ideal of assimilation, an American institution.

    http://www.population-security.org/24-CH16.html#12

    Wow, just wow! It is happening…

    Catholic Church Is Now Issuing Undocumented Immigrants ID Cards (HBO)

    Published on Aug 9, 2018
    Police departments in Dallas and surrounding counties have agreed to allow their officers to accept ID cards issued by Dallas Area Interfaith, the Diocese of Dallas and several local parishes.These interfaith IDs have no legal bearing – it still remains up to an officer’s discretion whether to accept the identification (which includes a photo, name, DOB, address and the name of the parish that issued them the ID), but the desired outcome would be to quell some of the concerns present in the immigrant community, and help officers police more efficiently.

    The topic of immigration came up early in the conversation and Hesburgh told of a plan that he and “good friend” former Sen. Alan Simpson, a conservative Republican from Wyoming, and liberal Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts put together to solve the immigration problem. They wanted to institute a European-style ID card that would be given to all, including undocumented immigrants, which Hesburgh thought would eliminate the need for all “the cops and robbers” at the border. If people had the ID, they could work; if not, they would be unable to obtain work and would eventually return home.

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1630050

    A November 8, 1992, National Catholic Register article reveals why the Vatican is taking these stances. In it, Father Richard J. Ryscavage, executive director of the Migration and Refugee Services of the U.S. Catholic Conference noted that immigration is the “growing edge of Catholicism in the United States…We are in the middle of a huge wave of immigration…and most of them are Catholics…It’s the key to our future and the key to why the Church is going to be very healthy in the 21st century.

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1634141

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Them Guys
  174. renfro says:
    @anarchyst

    You are making an attempt to validate the latest jewish holocaust ™ swindle…not good.
    The latest jewish “holocaust ™” swindle is that of the “holocaust ™ transference syndrome” where (only) jewish “holocaust™ memories are transferred to their children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and even to unrelated persons.

    Nope, not my intent. I am aware of the children, grandchildren, great grandchildren holocaust con job.
    My point was to say that in the case of Jews and racism as opposed to causes of others racism , it that it is possible that Jews are born with structurally altered brains …..….resulting from centuries of hating all non Jews……i.e. ..their hatred of ‘all others’ is inborn.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  175. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Vice President Alexander Stephens of Georgia would not agree with you:

    That is the pretext, not the cause. The cause is the North declared they could tell the South what they could do and the South wasn’t having it.

    Alternative conservatives should know better than to say anything good about American slavery.

    Importing black slaves was stupid but once you have then here, it wasn’t a bad system. The ‘improvement’ was starving them instead of beating them under sharecropping.

    The foundation philosophy of chattel slavery is really deep down a thing from Talmudic Judaism.

    I didn’t realize Africa, Japan, China and Korea were Jewish.

  176. @Anon

    Whites would act that way. That is why we are in the situation we are in in the first place. The Chinese would not. That is why they won’t be in our situation ever.

  177. Well at least we got to post 15 before Wally had a chance to blame everything on the Jew’s and start his infantile Codoh nonsense. Good as long it lasted :)
    Of course the US will break, a large country governed in such an incompetent manner, whith a superfluous military force, will break and its citizens will be at the receiving end of military power.
    Enjoy it, it will be broadcast in HD on all news channels.

    • Troll: Them Guys
  178. In Amerika you have different types of fertilizer, you have white fertilizer, black fertilizer, latte fertilizer, and few amounts of other color fertilizer. They are inferior to guano, btw.
    Most of these fertilizers previously had lives, just as slugs, insects and jellyfish. Their horizon was just as far as those animal’s, indeed they were sort of animals, biped ones, as matter of fact. The problem with them though, they were dumber than cows, but more clever than mice, but not as smart as rats.
    They also had a profound love of killing each other senselessly without purpose, probably because of boredom. If they did not kill each other, they killed themselves, they became so fat they could hardly move (they make bad soap btw), they addicted themselves to substance abuse, so they did not know which world they lived in, and they elected politicians that shat in their mouth’s.
    When you have all killed yourselves, we will start over. Calling it Vinland, using all the fertilizer to make Vinland a green place, a place of wealth for all, equal opportunities for all, a metiocracy, but also a place that includes all and rejects only the most vile.

    So I can not encourage you enough, pursue what you are doing, we are all holding our breath, destroy, kill maim and burn. The rest of the world mainly hates and despise you and wish you transcend to fertilizer state as fast as possible, we have had enough of your culture less society, you plastic, fake and false culture. I don’t care if you are Jewish, white black or Hispanic, whatever, you must all burn (or melt), there is no cure from your disease, you cut off the limb, you must be cut off and cleansed.
    So you can be redeemed as fertilizer, not good, but better than nothing. And my grand children can sit in the shade of a maple and think of the pity full end you had.

  179. @Jim Christian

    I like your vision, except that many of us live in blue states that used to be red states. There are fewer and fewer safe spaces for us Badwhites, and of course that’s the plan.

  180. annamaria says:
    @Jim Christian

    There are no real liberals among the big “progressive” mouths blowiating for MSM.
    In the US, the true liberal opposition to the Union of mega-financiers, mega-warprofiteers, and ziocons has been silenced and smothered. What is left, is a “controlled opposition.”
    A sample: https://www.globalresearch.ca/children-are-dying-yemen-humanitarian-crisis-made-in-america-no-liberal-rallies-yemeni-children/5650089
    “No Liberal Rallies for Yemeni Children”
    – Before that, the “progressive” Democratic party has produced such cannibals as Madeleine Albright, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8, and Mrs. Clinton, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM
    And, of course, Obama years (all 8 of them) were about slaughtering the innocent civilians in Iraq, Syria, and Libya in order to make happy the Unholy Union of mega-financiers, mega-warprofiteers, and ziocons.
    At least, the bloody republicans of Pompeo kind don’t even pretend to have a presence of humanness in them.

  181. John Samson says: • Website

    There are various scenarios that could trigger a civil war, but the key difference from the Civil War/War of Northern Aggression is demographics. Slavery was obviously an issue in that conflict, but both armies were predominantly “white”. This time, partly due to generations of identity politics and immigration/invation the bulk of the left are would identify as non-white. Ideological divisions would loosely correlate with ethno-cultural ones, which would shape the optics of the conflict – the skin as uniform truism. It’s hard to see where any civil war wouldn’t rapidly acquire a “racial” component, regardless of initial cause.

  182. anarchyst says:
    @renfro

    Thank you for the clarification. Regards,

  183. anarchyst says:
    @FKA Max

    The Catholic Church lost its way with the adoption of communist “liberation theology”.
    That being said, the “beginning of the end” of traditional Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by the invitation of Jews and Protestants who were involved in the “modernization” of the Catholic Church.
    Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their “dirty work” for them…
    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
    There are still those Catholics who subscribe to pre-Vatican II principles…few, but enough to keep the spirit of true Catholicism alive.

  184. Fray says:

    “A trial by Jury”

    Literally no American would have given that answer.

  185. Them Guys says:
    @FKA Max

    Total BS eh…Why will Catholic Church do better if people already a catholic in Other nations, come to usa? How does a people transfer from one nation into another nation add or subtract total numbers of catholic’s worldwide? It don’t,, It wont, It cannot. For every single catholic immigrant that arrives in usa, the originating nation has Lost one catholic member. That statement is as stupid and idiotic as anybody can conjure up.

    The entire entity and structure of Catholic Churches and the Vatican itself, has ruined and wrecked itself for all time thanks to, the Vatican II effects since, 1965.

    If Vatican refuses to end it and return to prior to that agenda…No hope remains for real traditional Catholic’s. Personally it is why I stopped going to church back at age 15 yrs old in, 1968. I tried to stop when younger and saw vast changes, but my mother forced me to attend until she was unable to keep doing so. Personally I call that idiotic agenda, Vatican-Jew, for mainly that is what its really all about. Disowning everything right and prior proper, and changing whatever Jews demand, so to make Jews happy. Screw that eh. I care not what makes Jewry happy or not.

    I do think though, that all this mess of Vatican II actually started earlier when soviet commies infiltrated Vatican and installed several thousand commies and commie Jew males to become priests so they could wreck the entire church from within. That began it, and Vatican II/Jew ended it. I do not see any return changes happening at any time either.

    Plus adding 500-Million Hispanic Catholic’s who basically are female goddess worshippers, and seem to only worship Mary as their savior, has not and will not “Fix” anything about it. Also a bad plan was to allow said Hispanics to maintain and keep a mixture of prior pagan type beliefs such as various VooDoo, and pre-Christian Aztec type practices still done by many Mexicans and other Hispanic Catholic’s. It has to be an either or issue. Cannot be Christian And Voodoo pagan at same time. Yet Vatican keeps closed eyes to it all to keep pew seats filled eh. Total BS agenda.

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  186. This paper probably tells us what is actually going on:

    The Population Cycle Drives Human History

    In the period before the onset of demographic transition from large to small families, when fertility rates were positively associated with income levels, Malthusian pressure gave an evolutionary advantage to individuals whose characteristics were positively correlated with child quality and hence higher IQ, increasing in such a way the frequency of underlying genes in the population. As the fraction of individuals of higher quality increased, technological progress intensified. Positive feedback between technological progress and the level of education reinforced the growth process, setting the stage for an industrial revolution that facilitated an endogenous take-off from the Malthusian trap. The population density rose and with it social and political friction, especially important at the top of the social pyramid. Thus, from a certain turning point of history, the well-to-do have fewer children than the poor. Once the economic environment improves sufficiently, the evolutionary pressure weakens, and on the basis of spreading egalitarian ideology and general suffrage the quantity of people gains dominance over quality. At present, we have already reached the phase of global human capital deterioration as the necessary prerequisite for a global collapse by which the overpopulated earth will probably decimate those of mediocre IQ.

  187. @jacques sheete

    jacques,

    Thanks for the link to Pettigrew’s book. I will be sure to carefully peruse it.

    Quite a guy, was Pettigrew: anti-imperialist at the start of the imperial project; anti-war when it meant something (he was indicted under the Espionage Act of 1917 for advising young men to avoid the draft during the 1st World War, the same law under which Eugene Debs was tried, convicted, and imprisoned – Pettigrew lawyered up and outlasted the government, ultimately having his charges dismissed); and an opponent of corporate personhood and all of the evils that that introduced into the affairs of the Republic. A lot to like there.

    Will also check out the other link that you supplied.

  188. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    Congratulations, you are the subject of a blog post by Alt Right leader Vox Day. He remarks about the little stunt that you pulled–”What a smugly stupid moron! He portrays his self-serving, narcissistic behavior as a triumph of some sort, when in truth it is a disastrous, self-inflicted defeat for both justice and a free society. If this jackass is ever arrested, karma will be well-served if he finds himself facing a jury of avid gun controllers and is convicted on every count. Instead of doing his civic duty and upholding the Second Amendment he cited with such self-satisfaction, he ensured that the prosecution would get a second crack at packing a jury with anti-gun jurors.”

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/08/why-right-fails.html

    • Replies: @Rurik
  189. @Rurik

    I was sitting there, trying to figure out how to get out of jury duty, and telling the judge that I had urgent responsibilities, blah, blah.

    This was a trial where some young guy had used a gun for to warn off some rivals for his girl, or something. But it revolved around the (non-lethal, in this case) use of a gun. (horrors, I know)

    Anyways, the judge was getting clearly annoyed that a few other jurors also didn’t want to participate in the farce. (I’m not a big fan of courtroom “justice” ; )

    And he lectured us and then made the mistake of asking a leading question..

    (clearly expecting to hear a ‘trial by jury’) he asked the assembled prospective jurors, ‘What is the main right that protects all your other rights from abuses of the government?’

    Whereupon I blurted out very clearly and loudly, “The Second Amendment!”

    There was a hush in the chamber. A pall had come over the room.

    The judge sat for a moment speechless, and then asked the attorneys to approach the bench. There was some serous looking glances and whispers, and then eventually we were all told we could go.

    Just like that.

    From what I’ve glimmered, I had ‘tainted’ the jury when I said ‘the Second Amendment’. The prosecutor was likely intending to use the gun itself as the crime. And by proclaiming that our right to own guns was the very cornerstone of American freedom, I guess the prosecutor felt the trial was lost before it even began.

    [heh]

    So, instead of standing up for what was right, and making sure that an innocent man wasn’t railroaded by the system, and branded a felon (with loss of voting and gun rights for the rest of his life)….

    YOU, rurik, decided that you were sooooooooooooooooooooooooo clever.

    And then you complain that the left always wins, don’t you.

    Here you were, in the position to make sure that the left WOULDN’T win.

    And what did YOU DO?

    You *selfishly* (and to the detriment of the young man, Society, AND YOURSELF) toook your ball and went home — stupidly ignoring the fact that there were a lot more people with balls who could play, and you weren’t going to stop the game, only cause a 1 day delay in when it got played.

    With allies like, who needs enemies?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  190. CMC says:

    Maybe the whole case was resolved then and there to a plea bargain —at defendant’s last offer?

    Srsly, isn’t the question of what ‘taints’ a jury pool —and of what counts as judicial misconduct to that effect, appealable?

    Is it possible this guy accidentally helped the defendant?

  191. Randy says:

    “While presumably also putting any black people who have managed to remain in America’s highest-rent city, as well as the déclassé ones across the Bay, in their properly subservient place. ”

    The author of this piece must be joking? Whites are not oppressing blacks. Blacks are terrorizing whites.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
  192. @Randy

    Ahhh, but you have forgotten about all that systemic racism that so frightens blacks.

    Perhaps we should offer them all free, one-way passage back to Africa where they no longer need to be afraid of white racism!

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  193. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Them Guys

    Total BS eh…Why will Catholic Church do better if people already a catholic in Other nations, come to usa?

    Because they make more money here, that they can send home, donate to the Church, etc. and because the more Catholic voters are in the country the more influence and control the Vatican has over the United States, its military and its foreign and domestic policy in general, etc.

    Hispanic Americans make on average $45,000 in the U.S. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/21/latinos-made-economic-strides-in-2015-after-years-of-no-gains/ , whereas in Mexico a person makes about $10,000 annually. Even by purchasing-power-parity-adjusted income Hispanics in the U.S. make more than double what they would make in Mexico (about $48,000 PPP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity (Hispanic American households make about 20% less than the average American household) compared to $20,000 PPP):

    List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    I have extensively written on this here:

    Earthly concerns

    The Catholic church is as big as any company in America. Bankruptcy cases have shed some light on its finances and their mismanagement

    Source: https://www.economist.com/briefing/2012/08/18/earthly-concerns

    The Church has never truly been a spiritual entity, but mainly an earthly power, in my opinion. It is the oldest and biggest globalized, tax-exempt corporation/organization on the planet. Just as Israel’s prosperity and power would be greatly diminished without the support of rich American Jews, so would the RCC’s without the resources of rich American Catholics. The more American Catholics there are the more political and military power and financial resources the Vatican will have/gain.
    [...]
    The American church may account for as much as 60% of the global institution’s wealth. Little surprise, then, that it is the biggest contributor to head office (ahead of Germany, Italy and France). Everything from renovations to St Peter’s Basilica in Rome to the Pontifical Gregorian University, the church’s version of West Point, is largely paid for with American money.
    [...]
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/one-way-to-slow-democrats-importing-ringers-to-vote-for-them/#comment-1934602

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trumps-un-speech-a-pleasant-surprise-especially-on-immigration-refugees/#comment-2017539

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  194. Moore said. “The resistance ― the true resistance ― is not coming from the Democratic Party or from the liberal establishment. I can’t reveal too much right now, but there is a real insurgency taking place. I don’t know if it will succeed or not. It might be too late.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/435589-moore-trump-fahrenheit-119/

  195. @Liberty Mike

    Agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY. Always serve jury duty in a criminal case if at all possible. It’s one of our last few avenues left for protecting SOME liberty against the overweening power of the welfare/warfare/surveillance State.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  196. Uncle Sam says:

    The author, Kevin Barrett, of this commentary is wrong about the upcoming civil war not being about race. It will most definitely be about race or at least the biggest part will be.

    White America will ultimately come to the realization that Whites and Blacks are different nations living on the same soil which is not sustainable. Blacks are not only physically different from Whites but also culturally, emotionally, psychologically and intellectually different. These differences make for profound social incompatibility. Sooner or later, White America will be put into a position where it will have to choose between its survival on one hand, and on the other, hurting Black people’s feelings, or perhaps something far worse. That day is inevitable and anyone who thinks otherwise is living in la-la land. White America cannot stand idly by while its large cities are being destroyed by the Black underclass, which constitutes a cultural cancer eating away at the innards of American civilization. This cancer will eventually spread beyond the big cities. Something will have to be done.

    Back in 1781 Thomas Jefferson wrote a book titled Notes on the State of Virginia. In it he wrote about Blacks. He believed very firmly that Blacks and Whites could not live together and favored deportation and colonization. In fact, he wrote that if Whites and Blacks were forced to live together it would “produce convulsions, which would probably not end but in the extermination of the one or the other race.” That is very revealing: a war of extermination.

    When the race war starts, it could very easily get out of control and beyond the power of the authorities to stop it. If hundreds of thousands or millions of Whites declare open season on Blacks and just randomly shoot them, how are the authorities going to stop them? I don’t think they will be able to do it. So Jefferson could very easily be right.

    In any case, the future of race relations in America is very grim.

  197. Sean says:
    @Rurik

    There was a documentary about one punch homicides in Britain and one killer was an older white man, as was his victim, who cold cocked someone in an argument that started when the victim parked in a handicapped space. Most of the time the person who parks there is not handicapped, and a lot of the time the handicapped person is in the shop. I don’t think Drejka saw McGlockton parking, he seems to have just made assumptions. Quite a lot of people who park in handicapped spaces have criminal records or are even wanted, so I suspect Drejka wanted to start something and was not taken by surprise, but rather looking to give someone a nasty surprise.

    Most one punch killers are young blacks who kill older white men, (most boxing KOs when the floor of the ring was just boards over canvas were the head hitting the ground not the punch) . McGlockton would be alive if he had punched Drejka out, and that is one lesson that sturdy young blacks will take from watching this. The other will be don’t stand over the the man you knocked down. Citizens might get the idea they can fire within a second or two of being assaulted and claim self defence, but if he is young and quick and you may put a hole in his back. I know few of people who have had teeth knocked out at late night cab ranks in totally unprovoked attacks or in the street for the knockout game, I suppose if people carried unconcealed weapons such things might be rare. Drejka only fired once, a very telling piece of evidence that he did not have any belief his life was in danger at all.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  198. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Off-topic, but relevant to this discussion from the NY Times today:

    As Catholic Hospitals Expand, So Do Limits on Some Procedures

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/10/health/catholic-hospitals-procedures.html

    Experiences like hers are becoming more common, as a wave of mergers widens the reach of Catholic medical facilities across the United States, and the Trump administration finalizes regulations to further expand the ability of health care workers and institutions to decline to provide specific medical procedures for moral or religious reasons.

    One in six hospital patients in the United States is now treated in a Catholic facility, according to the Catholic Health Association https://www.chausa.org/about/about/facts-statistics , a membership organization that includes 90 percent of the Catholic hospitals in the United States. In a 2016 report, MergerWatch, a nonprofit group in New York that tracks hospital consolidation, found that in 10 states, 30 percent or more of the acute-care hospital beds were under Catholic ownership, or in a hospital affiliated with a Catholic health care system. In a growing number of rural areas, a Catholic hospital is the sole provider of acute care.

  199. @Uncle Sam

    If hundreds of thousands or millions of Whites declare open season on Blacks and just randomly shoot them, how are the authorities going to stop them?

    Per Amren, Andrew Young said this:

    No matter where they go, we will follow. No matter how far away they move, we will follow. They can’t escape us.

    After 70 years (Shelley vs. Kraemer, 1948) of refusing to leave us alone, they have earned it.

  200. Them Guys says:
    @Sean

    No, Firing gun once or more times has nothing to do with did he believe life in danger. You sound like people who never owned a gun yet tell others all about it. This Is what can happen if in a, life in danger aka legit self defense shooting, yet you Empty the Magazine. You can and likely will be charged with use of excessive force, or worse yet, charged with Sadistic Mind set in wanting to go beyond self defense by inflicting as many wounds as your gun has bullets in it….Some modern handguns have a bullet round capacity of as many as….One round/bullet in barrel chamber, ready to fire, with additional 15+ Rounds in Magazine (“clip” as uninformed says it). My 9mm cal. Beretta model FS-92, same as used in usa military until recent changes….Has 15 rnd’s. in magazine, and 1-bulet chambered ready to fire. That’s normal full capacity as designed by gun maker.

    It is when a person in self defense shooting, fires every bullet, all 16, for example, that it becomes very questionable sometimes. But, even then, it can vary on many issues as to why did they fire so many times…..I’d say, if you fired a couple rnds. Dropped suspook, and suspook appears Dead, or close to death, and then you stand over body and keep firing gun until empty of bullet’s?….That’s very Fishy at best…..Ending in shooter being charged.

    PS: Another fallacy from gun “Experts” which ain’t an expert, typically warn you to…Never carry a gun with a chambered round, ready to fire once safety is clicked Off, and always to, Wait until gun fire is needed for certain, because its “Safer” to carry gun this way…..BS!….That can get you killed.

    Example: What if you are right handed, as most folks are, you need Left hand to rack slide back to chamber a round/bullet, to make gun ready to fire when trigger is squeezed….Suppose what made it a legal legit self defense shooting, is that suspook Stabbed or Slashed your Left hand or Arm badly with very sharp knife?….Think you will still be able to Rack or slide back, upper portion of gun with left hand to make it ready to fire in that example? Nope…Plus when seconds count most as it must be if actual legit self defense issue….You probably wont have time to rack a rnd into chamber and fire gun…Ergo..You Die, You Lose. Then suspook steals Your gun from your dead hand and goes on to kill more.

    Hollywood//TV movies is where that idiotic and wrong advise originated from. Ie: always wait to rack a round into chamber Only if gun needs be fired. Movies Always show even Police men doing this before they fire a gun, its shown every time same Cop pulls a gun out, and any bad guy grabs a gun to shoot it…Always first shows close up of gun slide racked back to chamber a bullet before fires gun…REAL Cops Carry guns in Ready to Fire mode, period. As does any well trained ccw gun carrier.

    Best bet is as Ted Nugent says it…”Cocked–Locked–and- Ready to Rock, Doc” ie: a round in chamber so all needed to fire gun is either flick external safety to Off, and fire gun, or if zero external safety like a Glock, just fire it…..Glock Does have a Safety in middle of Trigger, so gun wont fire unless finger on trigger, plus has a couple Internal safety’s, so for any antigun lib fools who may read this reply, No need to go off rails and spew nonsense of antigun nature eh.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Sean
  201. @Uncle Sam

    Uncle Sam shortsightedly wrote: “The author, Kevin Barrett, of this commentary is wrong about the upcoming civil war not being about race. It will most definitely be about race or at least the biggest part will be.”
    Hi Uncle Sam,
    … Given the global advent & proliferation of automation in manufacturing & technological additives of Artificial Intelligence (AI), it seems reasonable to foresee a future where workingclass people, those with limited education, practical skills, & ambition, shall have less opportunities to get “good” jobs, sustain their needs, creature comforts.
    … Consequently, I suggest that although a potentially (multi-color) “race war” by political DESIGN simmers in ZUSA, I intuit that a diabolical Neo-Civil War battle is
    rapidly developing along the frontline of Haves & Have Nots.
    … Traditional Catholic and Orthodox Church members might currently recognize the ominous social divide as mirroring the gospel’s remarkable (afterlife) exchange which transpired between the ‘Rich Man and Lazarus.”
    … Respectfully, thank you very much, Uncle Sam!

  202. Sean says:
    @Them Guys

    Drejka had time enough and space enough between him and McGlockton, who was moving away, to see one shot was enough; in a real self defence situation he would not. If it is him or you, two or three shots aimed at the centre of the chest requires trigger control in a fraught situation, but is less likely to get you prison time than one in the back. If someone is seriously trying to take you out they are going to blindside you with a right cross and your head will hid the ground. McGlockton just rammed him over, then stood pulling his pants up, As the gun was coming out and being very carefully aimed at McGlockton, he took three little steps back and had quarter turned by the time he was shot.

    A lot of young blacks are far-faster. McGlockton made three independent mistakes. He did not knock Drejka out, he did not dart away immediately after shoving him, and of course he assaulted him in the first place.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  203. @Uncle Sam

    Hi Uncle Sam, it’s me again, not Adele.
    Forgot to emphasize the War Between Haves & Have Nots is waged killingly undeclared, & non-militarily.
    … The world oligarch’s (1 percent) mighty offensive-tactic is deprivation.
    … This is a worthy battle which the Have Nots cannot ‘win” and their greatest defense is what Paul the Apostle advised, ‘Put on the armor of God.”
    Thank you.

  204. Brutusale says:
    @jacques sheete

    “We prefer not to use the word terrorism, if only because terror should remain the sole prerogative of the State.”–William Gibson, The Peripheral

  205. bluedog says:
    @Them Guys

    You would be better off visiting the billionair’s and dealing with them with extreme prejudice, for they are the real deep state who are causing all of the problems…

  206. Them Guys says:
    @Sean

    If a threat is moving away and threat has ended, like turned away as if going to run away after initial punch/body slam etc….Then unless the threat re-emerges again, you cannot do a defensive shoot. The threat has to be continued to remain a death or great bodily harm less than death, threat.

    As to Distance of threat vs self defender, it has become an accepted court room professional witness and overall expert witness fact. That to be considered a real death or harm threat from a perps distance away from self defender, to be within a Circle of 7 yrds or, 21 feet away. Picture self defender with gun standing in center of a circle…Any threat attempt that is no farther away than 21 feet, from front, back, side, etc. Of circle center can be a real legit threat.

    This has been well proven with tests scenarios. Where a Police officer who usually has far more overall experience with guns, and need to unholster/pull gun out, has been timed with a knife wielding perp. In most every case, on average, a typical Male adult perp in avg good phys shape etc. Is able to, from standing still at very edge of 21 foot circle, to suddenly run fwd towards Cop in center circle, and raise his knife high, and get close enough, or close the distance, and stab or Slash Cop….Before cop can fire his defense gun.

    Time wise, on avg and well trained cop, when compared to avg. citizen non cop, it takes on avg. 1.5 seconds for cop to…#1 Realize threat…..#2 Reach for holstered at side gun…#3, Pull gun out of holster….#4…Raise gun into Ready to fire position…#5, finally Fire gun at perp.

    Now many folks may scoff at this scenario I outlined..But it has been used in many, many court cases as proof assailant was not to far away to do actual great bodily harm or death.

    Average time for cop is 1.5 total sec. from realization of threat, to fired gun..Yet in Less time an avg adult male perp is almost always able to close distance from as far away as 21 feet, and stab and often kill self defender person…..With Non cop typical avg adult victim person, that total time is extended a bit to usually a full 2 seconds total to fire gun.

    We are talking of 99 out of 100 times this is fact. It is what ccw class teaches, and what every true and accredited gun shooting in defense issues expert witness will testify to, if it gets to court.

    And any time perp gets shot in back, it will raise questions big time!…Was perp scared after first punch and changed mind and started to exit scene?…OR…Did bullet fired properly and legit in self defense, reach target at same precise time perp first started to turn to run? This can be critical issue. As yes it is possible for it to happen, and at first glance appear as a Back-shot perp unjustly.

    I rekon its why there are expert witness’ in first place eh. But anyways, what I wrote here is and has been more times that you can count, used as accepted number of feet distance away that it is still considered a real deadly threat…21 feet and NO greater..unless perp has a gun also! That changes it all…Perp with a gun aimed or pointed at you, or you see his gun in hand and he States verbally he is going to shoot you or kill you?….Even if perp is 50 or more feet distant its a good defense shoot and no crime for defender.

    Also in main scenario outlined here self defender does NOT have to See a knife or other weapon in perps hand or waistband etc at all….If perp says something threatening and seriously so, or perp has been warned to back away etc….Yet perp remains at 21 feet or less away, and makes any sudden move at or towards Defender?….Then it can be a deadly real threat and Blammo!

    As in most every such action, every detail, every spoken word, or, perceived gesture made by perp has bearing on, is or is Not righteous self defense shoot..Just remember it is 21 feet that when circumstances otherwise appear as a real self defense situation event….No questions about it and defender was correct, and still remains Alive.

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  207. @Anon

    Now THAT is interesting. And not entirely implausible.

  208. @Talha

    He should be executed. Enough already. Make an example of him.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  209. anarchyst says:
    @Them Guys

    I must respectfully disagree with your statement that police officers “have far more experience with guns”. In fact, most police officers are deficient when it comes to firearms proficiency. The average CPL (concealed pistol license) holder trains more and has greater proficiency than most police officers. You see, police officers generally “qualify” once a year, while most CPL holders continually train. CPL holders are more disciplined and generally DO require less bullets to “stop the threat” One good example of this is the shooting outside the Empire State Building in which police “sprayed and prayed” disregarding the safety of the bystanders and passers-by while STILL missing their intended target. There are many examples of police “spraying and praying” because they possess almost complete immunity from prosecution because of their “qualified immunity” which ordinary citizens do not possess. CPL holders HAVE to be more careful, but are still subject to vindictive prosecution by gun-hating (except for police) prosecutors in many jurisdictions.
    Let’s look at the differences in the way police are treated after a shooting:
    A citizen that uses deadly force, even justifiably, will be immediately handcuffed and arrested, until the situation is “sorted out”. He will most likely be “detained” in a holding cell at the police station until the prosecutor makes a decision whether to prosecute. Questioning by police will most certainly be forceful and immediate, with police interrogators purposely trying to “trip up” the citizen by attempting to elicit contradictory statements–standard police interrogation tactics.
    A police officer in an identical situation will NOT be handcuffed or arrested. The police officer will be afforded a union attorney and will have 72 hours in which to “get his story straight”. In addition, a police-friendly prosecutor will most likely hesitate to prefer charges, as “they are on the same team”. Most likely an extended taxpayer-paid “vacation” (administrative leave) will result.
    Not so for the ordinary citizen.
    Double standard?
    You bet…

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @Them Guys
  210. The contemporary racialists have good arguments, but the alt-right, the dissident right, is hopelessly infiltrated and directed. Always lurching to more extreme positions, any group with promise being quickly filled with loons to discredit and undermine it. I suspect they are planning some sort of horrible act to pin on white nationalists, and use that as a spring board to crush the last bits of independent-thinking heritage America. With the level of surveillance in place, and the control of media as it is, civil war is impossible. The System is unassailable and if things change, it will be because the people at the helm want them to change. This Zone 23 sounds plausible, likely.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  211. Corbie says:
    @Heros

    That wasn’t Brian Wilson, but his brother Dennis.

  212. Them Guys says:
    @anarchyst

    Yes I agree you are correct. However I was looking at and pointing it out as from the typical way it goes down in court. If self defender citizen is charged, and if they hire an expert witness to explain it to jury etc. Because in every article on this issue from various pro gun magazines, the NRA, and Yutube vids….It has been said to be that a typical Cop has more, and usually a longer in years time frame, of overall experience handling firearms. And also more episodes to have the need for pulling out a gun from its holster etc. But as far as private citizen Vs Police in accuracy, yes cops lose typically.

    You are correct also that typically cops do far more hits on innocent bystanders than private ccw citizens ever do. I read several different articles that had charts which show that on avg. typical usa citizen has far greater chance being shot wrongly or accidently by the Police than by any CCW Lic. Person. Something like, IIRC, 11 to 1 cops being the 11 times greater at bad or wrong hits.

    You’d never know of that based on any tv news msm reporting eh! MSM Loves to Bash CCW Lic. Holders. But year after year, stats confirm what You and I have both stated.

  213. Them Guys says:
    @anarchyst

    I forgot to mention that…I also believe a major reason for defense attny’s to want expert witness testimony to state that avg typical police are far better trained in guns, and have far greater experience is because for the average jury members who decide case, it probably causes jury to figure that, if a cops better trained, ergo cops can self defend even quicker than an avg private citizen can, when seconds count….Then it would appear to jury members that private person is at a greater disadvantage in situations as outlined with suspook perp within 21 feet range. A private citizen therefore has less chance than typical avg cop does. That can only look better to jury, and in defendants favor of a not guilty verdict if charged.

  214. Corvinus says:
    @Them Guys

    ““IF” any type real nationwide SHTF events happens…I believe Most Blacks No Matter how swell or good they have been nor for how long been so swell or good of a black person….It will all change 180 degrees in a NY moment….and if You are a White person?…You will Then be Enemy number one in their dark eyes. No if’s, and’s, or but’s about it. For its just how it is, is all.”

    That’s actually NOT how it works. You are so desperate for your narrative to be true you’ll prostitute yourself.

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Them Guys
  215. peterAUS says:
    @Corvinus

    That’s actually NOT how it works.

    That is, actually, EXACTLY how it works.
    Should the power of the state collapse people will band together based in own “tribe”. In USA, most likely, race. In some other countries ethnicity. In some other religion .
    US prisons are good example.

    And, what most people don’t realize…..the “moderates” within own group are the first to go.

    Agree that’s all academic for USA.
    The next phase there, and probably everywhere in West is proper police/surveillance state.
    After that …when and what …no idea.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  216. Corvinus says:
    @peterAUS

    “That is, actually, EXACTLY how it works.”

    In reality, it is NOT how it works. People do band together when the central government collapses, but not in “tribes”, but rather according to “interests”.

    “In USA, most likely, race.”

    Most likely not.

    “And, what most people don’t realize…..the “moderates” within own group are the first to go.”

    Clearly you underestimate the resolve and staying power of tens of millions of moderates, aka normies/the mushy middle.

    “The next phase there, and probably everywhere in West is proper police/surveillance state.”

    Feel free to (wildly) speculate.

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @peterAUS
  217. peterAUS says:
    @Corvinus

    Clearly you underestimate the resolve and staying power of tens of millions of moderates, aka normies/the mushy middle.

    People like you , you mean?
    So comfortable on their high horse….. as long as they have their latte.

    I’ve seen people like you in SHTF scenario.
    90 % despicable.
    Granted, there are 10 % of true believers. Your attitude here tells me you aren’t one of them.
    And, those are the first to go. By their “own side” most of the time.

    Feel free to (wildly) speculate.

    Feel free to feed your (empty) ego here.

    You’ve never been in a situation, personally, where your life was on the line. When that happen then you’ll really know yourself.
    I just have a feeling you already have a hunch there. That’s why you need this virtue signalling here.

    Shallow.

  218. Corvinus says:
    @peterAUS

    “People like you , you mean?”

    Tens of millions of people like me, you mean.

    “So comfortable on their high horse….. as long as they have their latte.”

    No high horse here, just feet firmly planted on the ground. And no latte for me either…2% milk drinker!

    “I’ve seen people like you in SHTF scenario. 90 % despicable.”

    So what SHTF scenarios have you been personally involved in?

    “And, those are the first to go. By their “own side” most of the time.”

    By helicopter or firing squad? I would prefer “draw and quartering”, but that’s just me.

    “Feel free to feed your (empty) ego here.

    “You’ve never been in a situation, personally, where your life was on the line. When that happen then you’ll really know yourself.”

    With my current line of work, more than ever know.

    “I just have a feeling you already have a hunch there. That’s why you need this virtue signalling here.”

    No virtue signaling, just busting your chops accordingly.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  219. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus

    Thanks Corvy.

    From the link:

    What a smugly stupid moron! He portrays his self-serving, narcissistic behavior as a triumph of some sort, when in truth it is a disastrous, self-inflicted defeat for both justice and a free society.

    As I mentioned, the trial was over a dude brandishing a gun, perhaps with good cause, or not.

    So this shithead thinks my court-room pronouncement that the first defense of liberty is the Second Amendment- and the effect that had on the proceedings- were/are “disastrous” for our “free society”?

    No wonder I’ve never paid any attention to that fringe imbecile.

    He then goes on a spittle-laden ‘defense’ of collectivism and calls individualism:

    shortsighted and strategically disastrous. It is the philosophy of the crack addict, the rent boy, the cam whore, and the flytipper. It is the mindset of the parasite and the grasshopper. And it is not compatible with civilization, let alone advanced Western civilization.

    Not all collectivisms are equal. Identity politics are not communism. Defending your family and your nation, and working to advance their interests, is not wrong, it is the very sort of normal human behavior that created Western civilization. I could not have created Infogalactic alone. I could not have built Castalia House alone. Arkhaven is a collective effort.

    “My” nation?

    Really?

    This imbecile would equate the (sacred and absolute) love and devotion I have for my family = with a knee-jerk fealty to this nation?

    Let me spell it out for him, right here.

    FUCK this nation. FUCK this festering shithole of corruption, Eternal War and Affirmative Action.

    FUCK this nation where George W. Bush is a free man.

    Ditto Obama and Hillary and all the rest of the war criminal scum.

    Does this shithead really think I should sacrifice and work to advance the interests of Goldman Sachs Inc. = The ZUSA, IOW?

    Now, if the imbecile had read what I wrote on the same thread, that if this was a trial of any consequence, like the one that’s going to be tried over the Stand Your Ground shooting in Florida (the shooter has since been arrested by the State’s Attorney), then that’d be something I’d be willing to sacrifice for. When my precious time would be spent to some effect.

    But listening to the puerile ravings of an imbecile (and his chorus of like-minded dunderheads) is as bad as suffering lawyers to ooze their lies in a court room.

    I invite this loser to bring his shriveled scrotum here to Unz, were I’ll promptly make him cry for his blankey.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    , @Precious
  220. Rurik says:
    @Dirk Manley

    So, instead of standing up for what was right, and making sure that an innocent man wasn’t railroaded by the system

    umm..

    shithead

    who ever said he was innocent? Perhaps he did brandish a gun and perhaps he did it for unsound reasons. I don’t know, and I don’t give a rat’s arse. It never should have gone to trial, and the whole idiotic charade is just one more way for the corrupt legal system to milk the sheople.

    I have zero respect for lawyers and especially judges. Like cops, there may be some good ones, but like cops, they tolerate a systemic corruption in the entire system.

    Fuck em.

    YOU, rurik, decided that you were sooooooooooooooooooooooooo clever.

    The lady doth protest!

    Here you were, in the position to make sure that the left WOULDN’T win.

    how do you know that? Are you omniscient? I never mentioned any details of the trial. Only that it involved a gun, and as such, we were all set free (I suspect) because of what I said.

    And talking about defeating the left! That loud and proud pronouncement wasn’t a clever attempt at trying to get out of jury duty, (even tho I wanted to), but was rather an opportunity to trumpet the hard and glorious truth inside that festering den of iniquity (a modern, American court room).

    When I loudly proclaimed that the Second Amendment was the cornerstone of American freedom, what I did was eviscerate the smug of the preening posers pompously posturing as if we assembled citizens should consider them anything more or less than bullet sponges, *if* the moment ever came when they figured they could ‘tread’ on our freedoms.

    That sent chills. I could tell, the judge was mortified. Here was a lowly juror, a nothing in the great scheme of things, reminding the court of law, and the assembled troop of baboons in expensive suits, that power, at the end of the day, still belongs to We the (armed) People.

    Damn that was a fine moment, because it was soooooooo damn true!

    (the day they get the guns, is the day you’re really going to see the ugly, twisted visage of leftist hatred and tyranny)

    You *selfishly* (and to the detriment of the young man, Society, AND YOURSELF)

    You know nothing about the man or the circumstances of the trial. Do you realize how preposterous you look when you shout your ignorance?

    For all you know, the man may have been a violent, vicious criminal thug, menacing innocent people with a gun.

    The next time you’re tempted to shout your ignorance, perhaps don’t. ;)

    • Replies: @Dirk Manly
  221. Rurik says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Always serve jury duty in a criminal case if at all possible.

    There’s another reason for my jaded view of our corrupt ‘justice’ system.

    A while back in Broward County Florida, a jury was selected and seated to hear the trial of a popular football player, Brian Blades- accused of shooting his cousin with a handgun, killing him.

    For a week they dutifully listened to lawyers give evidence and poured over the testimony. Eventually deliberating for six hours before coming to a verdict. Guilty of manslaughter.

    But then what happened? It turns out that the judge presiding over the farce, decided she didn’t approve of the jury’s verdict, so she summarily overturned it.

    She made a mockery of their efforts, their time, their energies and their good-faith participation in the system.

    When it came out that the judge, Susan Lebow knew the defendant from her childhood, and that the lawyer for the defense was her divorce attorney, (things she never divulged) it nevertheless had no impact on the appeal to reinstate the verdict or retry the case. So those jurors had their entire efforts mocked by the imperious corruption of a member of the court in good standing.

    Rurik ~ the cynic.

  222. Rurik says:
    @Dan Bagrov

    I suspect they are planning some sort of horrible act to pin on white nationalists

    works every time

  223. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    He’s a Balkan survivor. Do you think that he has no knowledge of SHTF?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  224. peterAUS says:

    By helicopter or firing squad? I would prefer “draw and quartering”, but that’s just me.

    Would this qualify:

    That’s your wife being kicked. You are the guy on the left; your son is on the right.

    I could find worse, of course. Those idiots were quite happy to record all that slaughtering, with gusto. From ’91 to ’95 . And in ’99 again. And in 2001.
    That’s closest to the Europe.
    More to the east you go, Checnya for example, even more morbid it becomes. Syria is next level.
    And Africa is ….well…Africa.

    So, tell me…what’s so special about you, and USA in general, that something like that can’t happen should the power of the state collapse?

    Means? More weapons available then to those people there.
    Group affiliation? Easier to make who’s “ours” and who’s “theirs” in USA.

    C’mon….what’s that so….special?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  225. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “He’s a Balkan survivor. Do you think that he has no knowledge of SHTF?”

    Right, because his bio information is readily available for unz.com readers.

  226. Corvinus says:
    @peterAUS

    “That’s closest to the Europe. More to the east you go, Checnya for example, even more morbid it becomes. Syria is next level. And Africa is ….well…Africa.”

    All unique situations compared to what the United States is currently experiencing.

    “So, tell me…what’s so special about you, and USA in general, that something like that can’t happen should the power of the state collapse?”

    It COULD happen, but given how civilized is our citizenry, taking sides en masse, with regular citizens jackbooting one another on daily basis, with perpetual bloodshed and bodies stacked a mile high, on our home soil for ultimate control of our government…well, some people can dream.

    “C’mon….what’s that so….special?”

    American exceptionalism.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  227. Them Guys says:
    @Corvinus

    No..Rather You are plain stupid. I lived with the experience for 43 yrs of life within Detroit from when at age 1o yrs old, all was very 90+% White and swell. By time I was 14 or 15 yrs old, I saw first hand Live examples of Detroit being vastly Looted, Shooted, and Burned half down and all done by your pals, Negro savages. aka the Detroit Riot’s.

    I also spent about 10 yrs from age 10.5 yrs old on, residing in the Projects, Herman Gardens. At age 15 I was robbed (attempted robbery) by a savage negro while I walked down Joy Rd, at around 8:30 P.M. One warm summer evening. The savage negro age aprox. 30-35 yrs old, stopped me as he walked towards me in opposite directions…Asked me, “Hey Bro, know the Time?”….I thought he really needed to know what actual time it was…So, I said yes and glanced at my wrist watch. No sooner had I taken my eyes off of that savage negro to look at my watch and check correct time for him, He pulled a small, .22 cal. handgun from his jacket pocket and told me to…”Hand over that watch or I will shoot your honky white cracker ass!”

    I got real pissed off, and replied back..No, Fuck You niggerboy, I aint going to give you anything. And further if you do shoot and kill me, you will spend life in prison, so if its worth that?…Go for it, shoot me, as its only way you get my watch….He Spent about two long seconds thinking about it all, then decided against shooting me and told me…”Ok, Ok Bro You be cool, You be cool, and turned around headed back the way he first came from…Which he was now headed in same diretion I was going…So…..

    I stayed right where I was first stopped by him, I waited a few seconds longer until he was about 20-25 feet down street in front of me with his back now turned towards me and me behind him.

    Then I pulled out My Colt 38-Cal. snub nose detective special, gun, and yelled out to him..”Hey Nigger! You aint the only one with a gun, and mines a bigger 38 cal.! Then I fired a shot above his head by margin of a few yards above his head….He started to run away so fuckin quickly you could almost see smoke and flames from his shoe soles!…I scared the darkie almost into a pale white shade when I fired a shot over head. He half turned and looked back at me when I yelled those words out at him. He saw my gun first, then a huge bright flash/flame as it was almost total darkness then. That’s when he turned back around fully and ran like a race horse away from me.

    I also have a few more incidents of dealing with stupid negroes, but no need to list it here eh.

    As for You Corvinus, while you love to think you greatly impress folks here at unz forum, as some type super-intelectual-pyscho-babbler-of massive mambo jahambo speak. And forum’s Top defender of Negros and Jews….All it really boils down to with you, is that, you are more akin to stupid lib dems and limo liberals who think kissing savage negro ass is a good plan…But as soon as ANY form of national, nationwide real SHTF event arises….Like those dem libs and limo libs, your much loved savage negro pals will whack your sorry ass faster than you can stutter another praise word of how worthy you believe negros are. In such a shtf ordeal, idiotic stupid whites who always defend or praise worthless, useless negroes, like You, are going to be very first batch of fools shot dead or stabbed dead by those savages.

    And when those savages run out of nearby whiteys to kill off, they will then stab or shoot, or severly beat with fists and feet, any lesser sized negros they come upon while they run around seeking out yet more whiteys to then kill off.

    Yes Yes, I know you are far too sophisticated, and to highly intelectualy gifted to ever believe I can be correct on that….And that’s precicely why you and those like you are going to find out, the Hard way eh.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  228. peterAUS says:
    @Corvinus

    …how civilized is our citizenry….

    Moving on.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  229. @peterAUS

    I wouldn’t bother responding to Corvinus. He is delusional.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Corvinus
  230. Corvinus says:
    @peterAUS

    “Moving on”.

    Moving on to what? The United States observably has a civilized citizenry, especially our white population. Are you disrespecting our kind?

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  231. Corvinus says:
    @Peripatetic commenter

    Aren’t you the one who is hocking the pseudo-science wares of your gal pal, Anonymous Conservative?

  232. @Rurik

    FUCK this nation. FUCK this festering shithole of corruption, Eternal War and Affirmative Action.

    The USA is NOT a nation.  It is an empire of many nations, held together by military force since 1865.  That is a large part of why it is corrupt.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Corvinus
    , @Rurik
  233. @Corvinus

    The United States observably has a civilized citizenry, MOSTLY our white population.

    FTFY.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  234. peterAUS says:
    @Mr. Rational

    The USA is NOT a nation. It is an empire of many nations, held together by military force since 1865.

    Agree.
    Especially with the

    held together by military force since 1865.

  235. Corvinus says:
    @Them Guys

    “By time I was 14 or 15 yrs old, I saw first hand Live examples of Detroit being vastly Looted, Shooted, and Burned half down and all done by your pals, Negro savages. aka the Detroit Riot’s.”

    Not “negro savages”, but black people. And while I do not condone that violence, and believed the culprits received their punishment, one has to realize the historical context as to how and why these riots began.

    “Then I pulled out My Colt 38-Cal. snub nose detective special, gun, and yelled out to him…”

    Sounds like a movie I watched before. I think the actor’s last name was Bronson.

    “As for You Corvinus, while you love to think you greatly impress folks here at unz forum, as some type super-intelectual-pyscho-babbler-of massive mambo jahambo speak.”

    No, I speak the King’s English and offer my two cents on a number of subjects. If people are impressed or not impressed, makes no difference to me.

    “In such a shtf ordeal, idiotic stupid whites who always defend or praise worthless, useless negroes, like You, are going to be very first batch of fools shot dead or stabbed dead by those savages.”

    Highly doubt that situation would occur. Any more stories to share?

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
  236. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Rational

    Of course the United States is a nation, held together by its citizens from many different backgrounds. Did you have to work to support your family, and as a result missed American history? There are primers on the subject you know.

  237. Precious says:
    @Rurik

    I invite this loser to bring his shriveled scrotum here to Unz, were I’ll promptly make him cry for his blankey.

    I seriously doubt that. Most likely you would just end up being added to his skull collection.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Mr. Rational
  238. Rurik says:
    @Precious

    Are you his lickspittle?

    worthy only of braying your abased homage to your hero?

    Sad and pathetic.

    If the imbecile had the nads, he’d come here himself, and get his due. Not send his errand boys.

    • Replies: @Precious
  239. Rurik says:
    @Mr. Rational

    The USA is NOT a nation. It is an empire of many nations, held together by military force since 1865. That is a large part of why it is corrupt.

    It used to be a nation, once.

    Even the blacks had a functioning family life in the US, once.

    It’s true about 1865, but the reality is far, far more complex than that. And if you’re looking for the seminal event that set in motion the death of this erstwhile nation, then I’d suggest Woodrow Wilson’s tenure, which not only handed the keys to the US Treasury to the world’s most Satanic fiends, but also set in motion the destruction of Europe, leading to the death of Western civilization itself.

    But today it’s a rotting corpse. Murdered by the forces of evil emanating out of the (((Federal Reserve Bank))).

    Nevertheless, it’s still a shame that the ZUS is going to take all of Western civilization down with it, as it spends every last drop of blood and treasure to bolster the “shitty little state”.

    But then who knows, maybe Trump will morph into the Lion of the West. And like Charles “The Hammer” Martel, will rally the dormant blood in the catatonic Western man, and reignite the flame of Western people to persevere. From Austria to Italy to Hungary, there are vital signs of a nascent lifeblood beginning to flow.

    But I’m not holding my breath.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  240. Precious says:
    @Rurik

    Are you his lickspittle?

    No.

    worthy only of braying your abased homage to your hero?

    Wrong again Rurik.

    Sad and pathetic.

    Rurik accurately describes his own reply to me here.

    If the imbecile had the nads, he’d come here himself, and get his due.

    If by “get his due” you mean that you would lose to him, then mostly likely you are correct.

    Not send his errand boys.

    He didn’t, you guessed poorly Rurik.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  241. Rurik says:
    @Precious

    guessed poorly Rurik.

    perhaps you’re right, with a ‘name’ like “Precious”, I should have said ‘errand girl’

    which is all you are.

    if not, you’d have taken on the task of pointing out my errors yourself, instead of braying your fealty to your hero.

    • Replies: @Precious
  242. Precious says:
    @Rurik

    perhaps you’re right, with a ‘name’ like “Precious”, I should have said ‘errand girl’

    And another swing and a miss from Rurik.

    which is all you are.

    Wrong again Rurik, you are batting 0 today.

    if not, you’d have taken on the task of pointing out my errors yourself, instead of braying your fealty to your hero.

    Pointing out that I have assessed both Vox Day and yourself, and that in a match between the two of you that the most likely outcome is that he would win and you would lose is not braying, is not fealty, and does not mean Vox is my hero.

    It is merely stating the most realistic outcome of the hypothetical scenario you yourself proposed.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  243. tzhrgdsa says:

    Can you elaborate on the MAO-A? I always thought it was directly linked to Dopamine…

  244. @Precious

    I rather doubt he’d show up here, where he doesn’t hold a banhammer.

    • Agree: Rurik
  245. Rurik says:
    @Precious

    Pointing out that I have assessed

    Oh!

    Heavens to Murgatroyd!

    Why didn’t you say so from the start?

    I didn’t realize that you had assessed!

    Well then, that changes everything!

    But yet.. what are we to make of the fact that the cowardly and vaunted Vox, is too terrified to show up here and ‘defend’ his vitriolic bile?

    • Replies: @Precious
  246. peterAUS says:

    There is zero chance of civil war in USA as long as
    1. The most important:
    The higher echelon of USA Armed Forces isn’t disillusioned with the system. People from Lt. Colonel up.
    The military will simply smash any attempt to disrupt the system.
    2. The less important:
    The majority of people in some sizable region can have basics of life taken care of: food, shelter, medical help.
    Only a mass of desperate people could challenge the 1. And even that’s not given. Plenty of variables there.

    I don’t see either 1. or 2. happening in foreseeable future anywhere in USA.

    As for the rest of West, should either happen, the 1. will happily take care of that.

    The next step is, IMHO, slow and steady imposition of true surveillance/police state for the lower 80 % of society.

    After that, who knows.

  247. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Rational

    No, you altered it significantly. The reality is that the United States observably has a civilized citizenry, especially our white population.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  248. @Corvinus

    The reality is that the United States observably has a large fraction of uncivilized citizenry, especially our Black population.  Where Blacks rule, all the elements of civilization fall into decay.

    • Agree: Them Guys
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  249. Precious says:
    @Rurik

    Why didn’t you say so from the start?

    I did say so right from the start.

    But yet.. what are we to make of the fact that the cowardly and vaunted Vox, is too terrified to show up

    Everyone, notice that Rurik has utterly failed to even show that Vox has noticed Rurik’s further replies, let alone his failure to show that Vox is terrified.

    and ‘defend’ his vitriolic bile?

    Criticism is vitriolic bile? You are overreacting.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  250. @Rurik

    So, instead of standing up for what was right, and making sure that an innocent man wasn’t railroaded by the system

    umm..

    shithead

    who ever said he was innocent? Perhaps he did brandish a gun and perhaps he did it for unsound reasons. I don’t know, and I don’t give a rat’s arse. It never should have gone to trial, and the whole idiotic charade is just one more way for the corrupt legal system to milk the sheople.

    IF it never should have gone to trial in the first place, that means he never should be found guilty and punished.

    Again, you think that “opting out” of the system will make it go away.

    Fucking idiot Libtardian.

    There will ALWAYS be a court system. So it’s your duty, as well as mine, to make sure that it runs properly, not run away like a stupid, selfish BITCH when you get asked to hold up your end of the bargain of the Constitutional guarantee of the right to a trial by a jury of one’s peers, with the implication that with such a trial, a defendant has a hope of being tried by someone who ISN’T interested in perpetuating unjust laws and other idiocies cooked up by the corrupt idiots in the legislature.

    You’re such a selfish, useless swine. You would literally benefit anti-tyrannical society by offering your body, and converting it into fertilizer.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  251. Rurik says:
    @Precious

    look ‘Precious’, I’m not sure what your game is, other than to be annoying.

    I never paid this imbecile ‘Vox’ any mind before, and only invited it to defend its foul emanations ‘in person’, so to speak, since I was shown where he scurrilously and stupidly made an ass of himself by attacking me. Something I guess he enjoys doing, so long as he holds the power to ban any dissent. Coward that he is.

    So, unless you have anything of substance to offer, please do take your precious toadying elsewhere.

    Ok ‘Precious’

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  252. @Rurik

    Pretty hard to do all of that jury nullification and convicting murderous cops when you’re such a selfish, ignorant git that all you’re interested in is “how can I get out of being seated on a jury.”

    You’re such a hypocrite scum.

  253. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Rational

    “The reality is that the United States observably has a large fraction of uncivilized citizenry, especially our Black population. Where Blacks rule, all the elements of civilization fall into decay.”

    That’s fantasy on your part.

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
  254. Rurik says:
    @Dirk Manly

    IF it never should have gone to trial in the first place, that means he never should be found guilty and punished.

    no fuck face

    it means that the whole charade was a waste of everybody’s time, except for the lawyer$

    If some asshole wants to wave a gun around somewhere, then I don’t care. Capishe?

    I don’t give a fuck about him, or you. Except insofar as it’s necessary to put losers like yourself in your place.

    you think that “opting out” of the system will make it go away.

    I plan to opt out’ of this whole stinking shithole you call a system.

    It’s rigged (asshole). And I want no part of it.

    So it’s your duty

    My duty is to hand your wife a tissue. I’m a gentleman like that. ;)

    hold up your end of the bargain

    There is no ‘my end of the bargain’ fuck face.

    Affirmative Action is all the reason I need to tell the whole rotten, corrupt system to fuck off.

    You can lick their feet like the cretin you obviously are, and do your duty, all you want. I’ll be content to lock and load, and when your wife earns another load, I’ll gently hand her a tissue.

  255. @Rurik

    Funny, Vox, or rather, Theodore Beale, ran off to Italy. I suppose he has devoted himself to reforming the Italian legal system, including the elimination of professional judges, the so-called Giudice del Dibattimento, as the same is so antithetical to Anglo-American notions of fair play and substantial justice.

    Regarding reform of the American legal system, we can be assured, given his tendentious screed, that he has been a juror in an American courtroom and that he has, indeed, exercised some jury nullification and thereby either hung a jury or assisted in the acquittal of an innocent man.

    I am sure that he has contributed both his time and his lira to FIJA. Prior to emigrating, I am also sure that he demonstrated on the steps of many a courthouse by holding a FIJA picket and / or by handing out FIJA materials.

    He is a blowhard of epic proportions.

    Any person who calls himself the Supreme Dark Lord and who refers to Donald Trump as the God Emperor is a few fries short of a happy meal, notwithstanding his claims to be a polyglot and a Mensa member. In my view, to borrow one of his go-to lines, “he is of middling wit.”

    He does share something in common with Lizzie Warren: both claim to have native American blood flowing through their veins.

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  256. Rurik says:
    @Liberty Mike

    ran off to Italy

    Well Mike, perhaps he isn’t as dumb as I thought.

    Giudice del Dibattimento

    well, I confess I know nothing about their particular system Mike, but I’ve been there, and the place has culture! Culture so think you can cut it with a knife.

    Coming as I have from the land of crass and Kim Kardashian’s ass, I found the endemic, ancient culture to be intoxicating.

    American courtroom and that he has, indeed, exercised some jury nullification and thereby either hung a jury or assisted in the acquittal of an innocent man.

    Perhaps. I know nothing about him or his history, only the idiotic fulminations I read, and enough of the comments to see that he bans anyone who disagrees with his tripe.

    As for participating in the charade, as I’ve said, if it were a case of any consequence, and an innocent soul was being menaced with prison, then in that case I’d participate.

    Just as I showed with the Stand Your Ground case. I’d sit on such a jury, and then if someone had a smart phone recording of the old guy admonishing the dude’s girlfriend, and you could hear him saying ‘you need to march your black ass back to Africa, you idiotic [email protected]@er c–t!’

    In which case I’d agree he deserved to be shoved away from the girl. And that perhaps having earned his shove, then the bullet wasn’t deserved.

    But most likely, I’d view it as a case of a thug tasting some of his own medicine, and I’d think that the case would be a good way to show the orcs of the world that gratuitous violence against humans will and should result in escaladed even to deadly retribution.

    So it was a matter of the case I got out of, being a waste of everyone’s time, as I pointed out.

    But the shithead didn’t pay attention to any of that, and assumed like a fool that the man was necessarily innocent. Fools to the right, fools to the left.

    contributed both his time and his lira

    OK, sarcasm, so I guess we agree..

    a Mensa member.

    pffftt

    we have one here too!

    he tells us every time he posts.

    What boors these self described Mensa members are.

    Cheers.

  257. Of course we agree, all damn day long.

    No question, I was upset, in part, because I know you and have a pretty good idea of how you think and how you view things.

    In my first post up-thread, I mentioned that on one occasion when I was in the jury pool, a lawyer exercised one of his peremptory challenges on me because, as he later confirmed, some months prior to that, I had given him an earful of my anarcho paleo-libertarian mind. I told him that the framers had made a huge mistake by making the judiciary part of the government and that the separation of powers doctrine was really a chimera and that judges should not enjoy immunity.

    Applying Vox Day’s principle, I was selfish for expressing my views to this lawyer while we were in the hall outside of the courtroom while waiting for a judge to show up and hear the 2PM motion session. I still remember the conversation – some 15 years ago.

    According to Vox, if I were to chat with that lawyer, I should have made small talk, perhaps about the Red Sox or the Patriots, but nothing of importance lest I blow the opportunity to sit on a jury in a case in which that lawyer would be representing one of the litigants.

  258. Anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    “That’s fantasy on your part.”

    Really? Name one successful sub-Saharan nation.

  259. Anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    “The next step is, IMHO, slow and steady imposition of true surveillance/police state for the lower 80 % of society.”

    I agree. We are seeing that with social media purges now. Unfortunately, it seems to be the destiny of intellectually-gifted people such as myself to be ruled over by stupid proles at the bottom of the cognitive ladder. If I ran things, this situation would have never occurred.

  260. Anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    “I wouldn’t bother responding to Corvinus. He is delusional.”

    He shows up to threads after they have died off so he won’t get too badly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. I’ve seen him get rekt so many times that I have to believe he has some kind of mental condition, maybe autism.

  261. Anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    “All unique situations compared to what the United States is currently experiencing.”

    Translation: reality doesn’t apply to us because muh reasons.

    “It COULD happen, but given how civilized is our citizenry”

    Uh, the US incarcerates more people than almost any other nation on earth by a wide margin, only excepting China. America also has one of the highest infant mortality and murder rates of any industrialized nation.

    “C’mon….what’s that so….special?”

    “American exceptionalism”

    Dolt.

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  262. @Anon

    the US incarcerates more people than almost any other nation on earth by a wide margin

    The USA has more blacks than any other first-world country too.  The USA has a considerably lower crime rate than other countries with such high fractions of Africans.  This is not a coincidence.  Incarceration prevents criminals from offending.

    America also has one of the highest infant mortality and murder rates of any industrialized nation.

    Entirely because of Blacks.  The 19.4/100k multiplied out by the 12.4% of the population that is Black comes to 2.4/100k of the entire population.  Blacks double the per-capita USA murder rate.  They also murder their own children at a high rate and often by horrific means, so it’s not surprising that their babies often die under the “care” of their mothers.

  263. APilgrim says:

    Watch Steve Bannon’s full interview with MSNBC’s Ari Melber, MSNBC, 08/17/2018, https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/watch-steve-bannon-s-full-interview-with-msnbc-s-ari-melber-1301579843692

    In an exclusive interview, Steve Bannon sits down one-on-one with Ari Melber for his first ever interview on MSNBC. Bannon outlined, among other subjects: his new plans for the midterm elections and why he thinks impeachment is on the ballot; why he is critical of parts of the Trump administration’s economic program; his views of Bob Mueller and the Russia probe; his thoughts on Trump’s gender gap with women voters; and his opinion of the president’s response to the 2017 Charlottesville riot. During the interview, Bannon said for the first time that he has raised over $5 million for his midterm effort, confirmed he did sign an N.D.A. for Trump (but was not paid for it), and that it would be a problem if Donald Trump did know about the Trump Tower meeting in advance.

    Steve Bannon’s new film, “Trump @ War”, will release on 09/09/2018

  264. APilgrim says:

    A 2nd Amendment Solution is probably inevitable, at this point.

    IMHPO

  265. APilgrim says:

    [email protected]”: A Peek Inside Steve Bannon’s New Film, by Tyler Durden, Thu, 08/16/2018 – 15:45, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-16/watch-trailer-steve-bannons-new-film-trumpwar

    Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon has got all hands on deck for the upcoming midterms; launching Citizens for the American Republic (COAR) – an outside political group which will advise surrogates, generate talking points and assist with media campaigns for candidates. As part of his new campaign, Bannon – a former Hollywood producer with several films under his belt – will release a new documentary on September 9, “[email protected],” the two year anniversary of then-candidate Hillary Clinton calling Trump voters “deplorables.”

    Bannon calls the November midterm election a referendum on Trump, one which could have disastrous consequences for the President should Democrats regain control of Congress. “It’s very simple to me. This is a referendum on Trump, up-or-down vote on impeachment,” he said. “This other side, they’re very motivated — and they’re motivated for one thing: They want to impeach Donald Trump.” “It’s all on the table Nov. 6,” Bannon added. “This is the re-elect. How do you use this to trigger the civil war in the Democratic party? You must win. [The midterms] have more value than the typical, ‘We‘re holding the House.”

  266. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:

    P.S.

    Forgot to mention that Australia will fall into China’s orbit due to Asian immigration.

    America will also struggle to feed itself for a time due to underground aquifer depletion; desalination technologies will mitigate things, but the US will be so incompetently run, that it will become more of a challenge than it should be. This may trigger a global famine.

    Africa will continue to become a Chinese colony and spring board for projecting military power across the Atlantic and into South America.

    The US may also go to war with a South American country once China attempts to put a military base there. The US may also go to war with South Africa or a West African country at some point as China considers putting a naval base there.

    New technologies will allow Asian movies to replace Hollywood over time. CGI characters will be photorealistic and AI computers will translate languages naturally in real time. Traditional, non-weirdo, Asian movies will then receive great accolades among normies in the US. This will damage Hollywood profitability and result in a major studio shutting down. China will then have enormous cultural impact and propaganda opportunities against the US empire, a country that can only make politically correct movies for SJW freakazoids.

    The US military will become far less efficient due to diversity. There will be several high profile incidents – crashes, collisions with boats, even shooting down one of their own planes, etc. Additionally, the US military will have problems recruiting competent officers. The US will compensate by designing autonomous AI weapons systems such as autonomous drones, small naval vessels, S2A units. and data analysis centers.

    AI will replace most white collar jobs, including many jobs one wouldn’t expect (writing books). Multicultural America will then face an existential crisis like none other as large swaths of society find themselves out of work and stuck with a rich elite that does not want to be taxed to make up the difference. The brown underclass will seize power, redistributing things to themselves and greatly damaging American economic competitiveness with Asia.

    Indian-American relations will suffer as conservative, traditional India is continually lectured by SJW America. We have already seen some of that when Obama was president. Indians rioted when one of their officials was arrested for “slavery.”

    China will embarrass the United States with its outer-space accomplishments.

    A major US auto manufacturer will go out of business due to Chinese competition.

    The US deepstate will begin framing their political opponents with crimes they did not commit. Show trials will serve to dissuade opposition.

    Some American Asians will emigrate back to Asia due to racial animus directed at them by NAMs.

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