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Five years ago, the hipster-Marxist magazine n+1 published a lengthy editorial, White Indians [Spring 2013] complaining that Indians—i.e. Asians from the subcontinent of India—were doing too well. They were making money, staying out of trouble, attending colleges, and generally integrating. Some of them—Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley—were even becoming Republicans! The n+1 Editors were not pleased by any of this, lamenting that Indian success was being used as a rhetorical cudgel by American whites to demand better behavior of other non-whites. They called on Indians to stop being so “white” and instead model themselves after Kumar, the slacker Indian pothead from the stoner comedy Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle. Their conclusion was more nuanced than it seems and it may be coming true—and it points to the downside of a merit-based immigration policy.

While the character “Kumar” is nothing but a horny man-child, the actor who played him, “Kal Penn,” born “Kalpen Suresh Modi,” is a dedicated Leftist activist. He worked in the Obama Administration as Associate Director in the White House Office of Public Engagement for several years, worked on Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign and then work on the President’s Committee on the Arts and Humanities—until he resigned in August of 2017 over President Trump’s (now-vindicated) response to the Unite the Right rally i n Charlottesville, Virginia. [Kal Penn, more resign White House arts committee, By An Phung, CNN, August 18, 2017]

This career path is increasingly common for Indian immigrants in the Anglosphere. Like millions of other non-whites, and not a few white ethnomasochists, many have begun to adopt the increasingly hegemonic anti-white, anti-West, positions disseminated in our university system, and on cultural Marxist websites like Salon.

What makes Leftist Indians special is that they are both non-white and intelligent— “blacks with brains,” as they are sometimes brutally characterized. Remember that the pressure in Leftist institutions to place non-whites in powerful positions is immense. But the number of blacks and Hispanics with the cognitive abilities to run an organization, regularly write on and analyze American politics, or carry out competently the duties required of a civil servant, are few and far between.

Leftists may be evil, but they are not dumb. They are not really eager to let their non-profits and publications be run into the ground by a black empty suit in the name of diversity. But to keep from being condemned as racist by their own side, they can’t just stay white—especially since having self-loathing whites, women, Jews (who the Left generally sees as white), and homosexuals on staff is no longer enough to be granted the exalted designation of “diverse”.

High IQ, anti-white Indians are an excellent way out of this quandary.

While there is still much more field work that needs to be done to pin down Indian IQ, the research we do have suggests, while average Indian IQ is not high, that the upper castes are very bright. The uppermost caste, the Brahmins, are estimated to have an average score of around 110—putting them on the level of Ashkenazi Jews, and above east Asians and Europeans. If the caste one rung down, Kshatriyas, are one standard deviation below them, their average IQ would be 95. That would put them well ahead of blacks (85), and between Hispanics (90) and whites (100). However, there is plenty of reason to think the Kshatriyas average is higher than that.

If the top caste in Indian has an average of 110, and the bottom is slightly above 80, and there are three castes in between, and the difference between each caste is the same, then Kshatriyas would have an average above 100—that is to say, higher than average whites in the US.

Theories aside, what is indisputable is that the Indians arriving in America are from the upper castes, and if you translate the average Indian SAT score into IQ, you get an average score of 110.84. [IQs of Indians, by Ryan Faulk, The Alternative Hypothesis, April 15, 2016]. In short, Indian Americans are smart.

On top of being much brighter than America’s two largest non-white populations, Indians are not nearly as self-absorbed.

Black and Hispanic writers and intellectuals notoriously have a very hard time writing about anything aside from themselves. Hispanics tend to only cover immigration, and social problems that particularly impact Hispanic communities: teen pregnancy, the state of public schools, etc. More triumphalist Hispanics, such as Jorge Ramos and Ruy Teixeira, eagerly document and dissect America’s changing demographics.

Blacks are even more self-obsessed. Every major publication now has one black writer whose sole job is to write about how bad things are for blacks, how whites are to blame, and how nothing for blacks will get better because whites are just so awful. The Atlantic has Ta-Nehisi Coates, The New York Times has Charles Blow, Slate has Jamelle Bouie, etc.

The black and Hispanic “beats” are very important for Leftist outlets, but they aren’t everything. Since these writers tend to be unable to think critically about any issue that does not touch them directly, if a Jorge Ramos or a Ta-Nehisi Coates were to become the chief editor of a Main Stream Media publication, it would quickly become a specialized outlet for blacks and/or Hispanics, like The Root or Univision.

Indians, being only one percent of the U.S. population, and not yet canonized into the Left’s great pantheon of protected victims, do not have this problem. Their anti-white, cultural Marxist stances are more generalized, less personal. They can write about a political predicament without always making it about themselves.

This is why more and more Indians can be found in important positions across the Left. It is a trend that has gone largely unnoticed, but will almost certainly continue. As the country’s general population is changed by immigration policy, its elite will too—and one of the only non-white population groups cognitively equipped to function in that elite are Indians.

Some noteworthy examples of this incoming elite.

Also noteworthy is that all five Indians in Congress today are Democrats. And any list of major companies with Indian CEOs proves quite intimidating: Ajay Banga (MasterCard), Satya Nadella (Microsoft), Shantanu Narayen (Adobe), Indra Nooyi (PepsiCo), Rajeev Suri (Nokia), and Arati Prabhakar (DARPA) are a few of the more prominent ones.

Having so many outsiders in charge of such major companies would strike any healthy society as complete madness.

Even those Indians who are supposedly sucking up to the white man that n+1 complained about five years ago are far from being the American nationalists of Leftist legend. Nikki Haley (born “Nimrata Randhawa”) called for taking the Confederate flag down from the State Capitol during her tenure as Governor of South Carolina. Dinesh D’Souza attacked American Renaissance in the 1990s, leading to Sam Francis getting fired by the Washington Times —all while generously borrowing from Jared Taylor. [Washington Times Clips Its Right Wing, By Howard Kurtz, Washington Post, October 19, 1995]

With “right-wing” Indians like these, who needs left-wing Indians?

Short of an immigration moratorium, or a 1920s-style reorientation of immigration towards America’s historic European stock, I can identify no countervailing force to offset the rise of Indian elites. Which means the people discussed here are merely a vanguard of what is come.

Let this be another reminder as to why lowering high-skilled immigration is just as important as lowering low-skilled immigration—I’m looking at you, Stephen Miller.

Hubert Collins [Email him] is the author of Why I’m a Race Realist. He was born in Taulkinham, but doesn’t live there anymore.

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  1. Indians are not inherently leftist. They are inherently conformist. That’s why they were selected by the British to be the middle-men in Africa and keep tabs on the black natives (whom the British didn’t trust).

    Aziz Ansari is a typical example of an Indian-American. Up until 2014, when the whole BLM exploded, he stayed clear of race. Post-2014, he has tried to remold himself and is shilling his brown skin for all who care. It’s about fitting in.

    Indians are neither pro-white but they are not anti-white either. If it profits them to help whites to oppress blacks, they will do it. If it profits them to oppress whites on behalf of greater forces, they will do it.

    Remember that their parents came primarily just to make money. They don’t care about America’s cultural or social history. Their embrace of leftist politics is just a form of ethnocentrism. The left is better for minorities and the right is better for whites on immigration. It really comes down to ethnic interests. The left will help them get more of their family in the USA.

    Indians, notably, are very ethnocentric in India and the BJP, the ruling Hindu supremacist party, is crushing any liberal party. Therefore, their support for liberal parties in the Western diaspora must be seen through that prism. It is just ethnocentric pragmatism.

    The joke’s on white Americans, who let all of this happen under their watch.

    • Replies: @Singh
    , @Susan
    , @gwynedd1
    , @FKA Max
  2. Yes, there are conspicuous examples of anti-white Indian leftists just as there are examples of anti-white white leftists, but the truth of things makes me far less concerned

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/27/china-and-india-have-a-huge-problem-with-racism-toward-black-people/?utm_term=.0fb7957ed1c3

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @anon
  3. Clyde says:

    I agree. This mindless leftism is Hindu conformism. Not that it makes any more palatable.

  4. El Dato says:
    @waffleironmarch

    On the same day, on the other side of the Himalayas, an ad for a Chinese laundry detergent went viral.

    It is shockingly racist: The video, which you can watch above, shows a fetching Chinese woman lure a paint-stained, lascivious African man toward her. She briefly toys with him before shoving a detergent capsule into his mouth and him into the machine. Out emerges a fresh-faced Chinese man, looking sparkling white and clean.

    The backlash to the ad has been swift in English-language media circles, with the Shanghaist highlighting it as yet another display of blatant racism in China that “can leave you completely and utterly dumbfounded.”

    And we can’t do nothing against that!

    Meanwhile, there’s an underlying irony to the Chinese detergent ad. As the Shanghaiist reports, it’s a blatant copy of an older Italian commercial, which drew the opposite, albeit similarly awkward, conclusion: “Colored is better.”

    Phew! At the end of the day, the racism karma has been diluted.

    (Also, Nikki Haley is not particularly intelligent. I don’t know how she got her job, she is in the same class of females covering up lack of understanding through excessive emoting as Samantha Superpower)

    • Replies: @Old fogey
    , @anon
  5. bhui says:

    You think the diaspora of the chosen wrecked things, wait till you see the devastation after the Hindu.

    • Replies: @anon
  6. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Prepare for an incoming barrage of Hindoos who will now spam this thread.

    The author makes a few incorrect assumptions though. Kshatriyas are not necessarily 1 standard deviation lower than the Brahmins. Their IQ is probably a lot lower than the author assumes. Remember that India has an average IQ of 82. This is not just a sample of their lowest caste.

    Also, the Brahmins are actually the worst of India despite their high IQ’s. These Indians have all of the negative traits of Jews such as being cheap, argumentative, and clannish, but with none of their redeeming features. Jews have brought us art and culture along with their negative attributions, but Indians have only brought us more SJW. They are the first to grovel at the white mans feet to get ahead of their fellow Indians, but have no qualms stabbing whites in the back by leading SJW causes.

    Also, Indians are the most rapey people in the world.

    India is in a weird place of having no means to make a claim in this world except as middle managers for Anglo Empires.

    • Replies: @Singh
    , @anon
    , @Ashurbanipal
  7. The uppermost caste, the Brahmins, are estimated to have an average score of around 110—putting them on the level of Ashkenazi Jews

    An “estimated” IQ from a country that made a rom-com about a man who refuses to install a toilet in his house. Just like Ashkenazi have a high “estimated” IQ.

    • Replies: @j2
  8. Singh says:
    @Polish Perspective

    No, these Indian libs are trying to export this cancer back home।।

    Better to fight them in America at another society’s expense, similar to Putler strategy in Syria।। :)

    Few examples on website Yugaparivartan are there.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  9. Singh says:
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, no claims at all & so rapey that even if the rate were magnified 10x it would be lower than America’s.

    You’re right though this thread will go to crap & I won’t contribute to it.

    Those deracinated SJWs are a problem though but so is missionary interference in other’s countries.

    We will continue to support Euro Pagan Survival & White christian genocide।।

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  10. Susan says:
    @Polish Perspective

    I came to comment to say essentially the same thing. Indian-Americans want to succeed and assimilate and will generally follow the crowd. The reason there are so many college-educated left-wing Indian-Americans today is because that is fashionable.

    I don’t know why this author is comparing Indian-Americans to Blacks, as the two groups have nothing in common. The most obvious comparison is that of Indian-Americans with Jews. Both are high IQ, ambitious, money-oriented and hard-working.

    The big difference is that Indian-Americans are not very ethnocentric. I don’t know any second or third generation Indians who follow the Hindu religion and they intermarry with whites at a very high rate. Look at Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal, both changed their names to white names and converted to Christianity.

    Also, Indian-Americans do not have the Jewish tendency to sympathize and identify with the oppressed. Indian-Americans will identify with the dominant culture, whatever that culture might be. Perhaps this is because they see REAL poverty and oppression when they visit India and know that life is a cakewalk here in the U.S.

  11. Leftists may be evil, but they are not dumb.

    Most leftists are useful idiots who have half of true knowledge about what they are doing. The minority of leftists who are truly clever tend to be [[[thoos]]].

    Leftists tend to be the ”essentially stupid/intelectually disturbed” people, they often ”have” higher IQ [quantitative levels and specially at verby sector] but they simply no have a very good ”heuristic”/factual understanding/qualitative levels.

    They often are the kind of people who are ”stupid” even when they score higher in IQ tests, while there are genuine intelligent people with below avg IQ.

  12. Thomm says:
    @Susan

    Of course Indians are not inherently leftist. They, like most other Asians in the US, used to vote Republican as recently as 1996, and only switched after they saw how useless the GOP is.

    If Indians, other Asians, and Jews can see that the GOP is a non-entity and that self-interest requires aligning with the dominant power, who can blame them.

    The GOP should look in the mirror about how they lost groups that used to vote Republican.

  13. Thomm says:

    This article makes the perpetual problem of conflating caste, IQ, and skin color among Indians.

    All the successful Indians in the US are certainly not ‘Brahmins’.

    Plus, if IQ correlated with skin color, then the successful Indians in tech would not be short, tubby, dark-skinned people, but rather the tall Greco-Persian-looking people of the North.

    Conflating caste, IQ, and skin color is the universal error that these armchair commentators make, when it has been shown that IQ has no correlation to skin color and caste in India.

  14. Thomm says:

    Let this be another reminder as to why lowering high-skilled immigration is just as important as lowering low-skilled immigration—I’m looking at you, Stephen Miller.

    In other words, protectionism for WN wiggers who can’t compete.

    About 80% of white Americans see skilled immigration as a plus (me among them).

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @BigjimSportCamper
  15. Thomm says:
    @Susan

    I don’t know any second or third generation Indians who follow the Hindu religion and they intermarry with whites at a very high rate. Look at Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal, both changed their names to white names and converted to Christianity.

    Gee… some would call that assimilation.

    Other garbage from this article :

    Their anti-white, cultural Marxist stances are more generalized, less personal.

    Look how quickly he asserts that ALL Indians are anti-white. Even if they marry white people, work alongside them, etc.

    Let this be another reminder as to why lowering high-skilled immigration is just as important as lowering low-skilled immigration—I’m looking at you, Stephen Miller.

    In other words, he want protectionism. Note how White Nationalism always has very left-wing economic views. Also note the admission that most WNs are 70-IQ ne’er do wells.

    • Replies: @songbird
  16. eah says:

    Silver lining: it shows the upside of White Nationalism — because under a white nationalist immigration policy, their ‘merits’, whatever they may be, would not matter — if fact, the more ‘merits’ they have the better it would be for their home countries.

  17. songbird says:
    @Thomm

    Anyone who supports open borders in white countries is functionally anti white in the only way that counts. That includes more than 90% of Indians, who are perfectly happy Europe is being forcefully ethnically transformed, since they can grow their group without losing any part of their own country. It’s all gravy to them. No loss, at all. Pure gain. The definition of a perverse incentive.

    Marrying whites is just sexual selection. High UV penetration makes white phenotypes uncommon in the subcontinent. Not a sign of loyalty but lust.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  18. Thomm says:
    @songbird

    Anyone who supports open borders in white countries is functionally anti white in the only way that counts.

    Skilled immigrants arrive by airplane, and are legal (in case you didn’t know that).

    By your definition, 80% of whites are anti-white.

    Even Jared Taylor is not really opposed to skilled immigration of Asians. So even he is anti-white, according to you.

    • Replies: @songbird
  19. songbird says:
    @Thomm

    Legal by what right? When was the ballot? I’ll answer: never. The immigrants know that fully well, as do the politicians. Easiest thing in the world to have a ballot. So, why was there never a ballot, if the natives support it?

    Don’t confuse the corruption of the establishment for endorsement. Whenever there has been a real vote, for anything even tangentially approaching it, it has always come out as a landslide “no”, but that’s never put the brakes on it. The Irish said “no” to birthright citizenship, people are still being imported into their country. A small country, with maybe four cities total, and zero capacity to absorb disparate, alien cultures.

    Recently, there was a vote in the village of Lisdoonvarna about settling 10o refugees. It is a small village of 500. A picturesque village, featured in songs. A center for Irish cultural events. Over 90% said “No.” They are saying they are going to settle them there anyway.

    That’s just one example. There are countless like it. Native Americans didn’t even get that treatment. And you think 80% of whites support it? No, not by a long shot. Most surveys show majority support for reducing legal immigration, even in America.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  20. Old fogey says:
    @El Dato

    I always thought that naming Nikki Haley to her job showed how unimportant Trump considers the United Nations to be.

  21. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Susan

    Huh? Indian-Americans intermarry at a lower rate than pretty much any other Asian immigrants. (Those who do are in a better position vis-a-vis Republican politics).Also,

    Indian-Americans do not have the Jewish tendency to sympathize and identify with the oppressed. Indian-Americans will identify with the dominant culture, whatever that culture might be.

    This is partially true. Indians are not as “socially conscious” as Jews, partly because moving to America is not a socially-conscious thing to do. But Indians identify primarily with themselves and always have. They’re actually somewhat like Jews in that.

    • Replies: @edgeslider
  22. There is black guy who is the chief editor of a Main Stream Media publication, namely Dean Baquet. He has been the executive editor of The New York Times since 2014 and the NYT has still not turned into The Root.

    • Replies: @Triumph104
  23. Thomm says:
    @songbird

    Most surveys show majority support for reducing legal immigration, even in America.

    Not skilled immigration. You again fail to differentiate between skilled and unskilled because if it did, you would see how most whites are not White Trashionalists.

    Most Americans (including Jared Taylor) recognize that highly-skilled immigration is economically valuable, and that if we don’t bring them in, their output will benefit some other country.

    • Replies: @songbird
    , @anon
    , @You don't say
  24. Great article.

    The Atlantic has Ta-Nehisi Coates, The New York Times has Charles Blow, Slate has Jamelle Bouie, etc

    The New York Times also has Nicole Hannah-Jones as their investigative civil rights reporter. She is half-black, half-white and her main assignment, if not goal in life, is to bring down the New York City public school system by endlessly writing about the district’s “segregation” problem. She can’t understand why a school district that is 15% white has so many minority schools. Like Ta-Nehisi Coates, she has received a payoff for her foolishness through a MacArthur Genius Award.

    specialized outlet for blacks and/or Hispanics, like The Root or Univision.

    The Root is owned by Univision and Univision is owned by a billionaire Egyptian-Israeli-American Jew.

    This is why more and more Indians can be found in important positions across the Left.

  25. Bliss says:

    The uppermost caste, the Brahmins, are estimated to have an average score of around 110……

    This is hilarious. The source of your “estimate” is the notorious brahmin bullshitter rec1man who pulls his numbers out of thin air and posts them on various HBD forums. Anyone who takes his estimates at face value is an idiot.

    Theories aside, what is indisputable is that the Indians arriving in America are from the upper castes,

    Indisputable? Try unbelievable:

    Hindus are only about half of indian-americans. And upper caste hindus are a fraction of that half.

    • Replies: @Numinous
    , @Moi
  26. @Pseudonymic Handle

    I would describe Dean Baquet as of African-descent. Baquet doesn’t want to be called African-American and I assume he probably feels the same way about the term “black”. He’s been married to a white woman for over 30 years, doesn’t have any particular interest in black issues, and genetically may be more white than black. The New York Times probably selected Baquet because he looks black, barely, but isn’t — the same reason NBC chose Mike Tirico to host the Olympics.

    When Baquet became editor of the Los Angeles Times:

    Several people emailed me after Baquet’s promotion to point out that he has been known to bristle at the African American label, preferring that when his ethnicity comes up he be called Creole. The Times does not include Baquet in ads listing the paper’s black staffers, and he has not been active in minority journalist organizations, writes Richard Prince of the Maynard Institute. But when his ascent to Editor was announced, stories in the Times and elsewhere referred to Baquet as African American. His younger brother, Terry Baquet of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, tells Prince: “Creole in New Orleans is black. We’re descendants of Haitians. We’re black. Creole is not a race.” Meanwhile, the National Association of Black Journalists looks forward to seeing Baquet at the group’s convention in Atlanta next month.

    http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2005/07/giving_baquet_a.php

  27. Twinkie says:
    @Susan

    Indian-Americans want to succeed and assimilate

    Succeed, yes. Assimilate, no. The Manhattan Institute has been tracking immigrant assimilation by national origin for some years now, and Indians have the lowest assimilation index* among Asians, clustered closer to Hispanics, despite high income, education level, and greater initial facility with English.

    *Composite of economic, cultural, and civic assimilation.

    I don’t know any second or third generation Indians who follow the Hindu religion and they intermarry with whites at a very high rate. Look at Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal, both changed their names to white names and converted to Christianity.

    American-born Indians have the lowest intermarriage rate among all Asians (Korean-Americans* are at the other end of the spectrum and out-marry at the highest rate). Haley and Jindal are highly exceptional, and do not reflect the larger Indian population in the U.S. at all.

    *Not coincidentally, Koreans in America are highly Christian and display high rates of military service while Indians are highly unlikely to be Christian (except for a tiny small minority of Catholics/Eastern Christians) or serve in the armed forces.

    • Replies: @Numinous
  28. Numinous says:
    @Twinkie

    Not coincidentally, Koreans in America are highly Christian and display high rates of military service while Indians are highly unlikely to be Christian (except for a tiny small minority of Catholics/Eastern Christians) or serve in the armed forces.

    There’s no positive correlation between being Christian and wanting to serve in a (any) military.

    I believe Koreans (in South Korea) have compulsory military service? And the vast majority of Indian immigrants to the US are nerdy and unathletic. These factors say a lot more than their nationalities or religions.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Twinkie
    , @Truth
  29. Numinous says:
    @Bliss

    Anyone who takes his estimates at face value is an idiot.

    I agree. Furthermore, anyone who takes any estimates of collective IQs (like national IQs, especially using the brilliant method of averaging out neighboring countries’ IQs) is an idiot, or just looking for an ego boost. Such things cannot be measured right now: there is neither the right data nor a good methodology for it. And no, aggregates of IQ tests, SAT tests, PISA tests, etc. just won’t cut it; there are too many other variables that these test scores don’t control for.

  30. Talha says:
    @Numinous

    And the vast majority of Indian immigrants to the US are nerdy and unathletic.

    Yeah, other than Punjabis, you probably don’t want them in your army unless in logistics roles.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  31. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    This belief is the military side of why there’s no longer an East Pakistan.

    • Replies: @Talha
  32. Talha says:
    @Anon

    Well, the West Pakistanis didn’t really treat the East too well. I don’t think they wouldn’t have minded having large Punjabis doing most of their defense. The problem was that West Pakistanis looked down on Bengalis; it was racist nonsense unbecoming of Muslims which inevitably led to the fracture.

    There are some people that have more of a warrior culture and are just genetically tougher people than others – no shame in this, God gives people different traits. Ghurkas from nearby Nepal for instance.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Truth
  33. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    I was talking about this:

    Based on this belief in martial supremacy, it was popularly said that one Pakistani soldier was equal to four to ten Hindus or Indian soldiers,[30][31][32] and thus numerical superiority of the foe could be overcome.[33]

    The Pakistan Army was also accused of bias and racism by the Bengalis of East Pakistan who felt humiliated by this dubious theory that was being floated in West Pakistan, that they were not ‘martially inclined’ compared to the Punjabis and Pashtuns.[34] Pakistani author Hasan-Askari Rizvi notes that the limited recruitment of Bengali personnel in the Pakistan Army was because the West Pakistanis “could not overcome the hangover of the martial race theory”.[35]

    Defence writers in Pakistan have noted that the 1971 defeat was partially attributable to the flawed ‘martial races’ theory which led to wishful thinking that it was possible to defeat the Indian Army based on the theory alone.[36] Author Stephen P. Cohen notes that “Elevating the ‘martial races’ theory to the level of an absolute truth had domestic implications for Pakistani politics and contributed to the neglect of other aspects of security.”[33]

    from wiki . (One Paki = 4 (or 10!) Indians) —> defeat.

    On the other hand, https://www.jstor.org/stable/4317850 .

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Singh
    , @gT
  34. Talha says:
    @Anon

    Oh yeah – big time. That’s what happens when you get arrogant of course. I have no problem with the idea that certain people or cultures generally do better in war. But when it becomes some dogmatic assumption – especially 1 Pakistani = 10 Hindus (LOL!) – then it is best that these delusions are disproved on the field of battle like the Pakistani civil war.

    I certainly think Bengalis should have been allowed to go as high as they could in the Pakistani army without institutional blocks; I just have my doubts that many of them could have made it as far as people like Punjabis.

    Peace.

  35. Jason Liu says:

    I have noticed that South Asians tend to assimilate very easily into “western values”, in this case, SJWism. They’re the minority group that most closely resemble genuine belief in liberal democracy, even if not entirely. Maybe there’s an HBD element to it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  36. Twinkie says:
    @Numinous

    There’s no positive correlation between being Christian and wanting to serve in a (any) military.

    I was getting at the fact being Christian and having high rates of military service correlated with high intermarriage rates, which are all correlated to, or serve as proxies for, assimilation.

    • Replies: @edgeslider
  37. Truth says:
    @Numinous

    There’s no positive correlation between being Christian and wanting to serve in a (any) military.

    And with the way your slavemasters think about soldiers, let’s hope that holds.

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/218473-military-men-are-just-dumb-stupid-animals-to-be-used

  38. Truth says:
    @Talha

    When I lived in the Gulf there were thousands of cabdrivers, from all over the Indian diaspora. With a little practice you can tell a Sri-Lankan from an Indian from a Bengladeshi, merely by personality, and you will be right more often than wrong, but it takes time and conversation.

    The Pakistanis and Afghans on the other hand seemed FAR different from the rest. Angrier, harder, more solitary and much tougher. You can tell that these men did not like Americans whereas the other Indians seemed, or at least pretended to be friendly in most cases. With a few Afghans, I would be thinking to myself “If I had to fight this guy it would be a hell of a war.” Not so with Indians by and large.

    I guess I was not the only one because the Gulf states no longer allow Afghans or Pakistanis (or Muslims from any poor country) to get work visas.

    • Replies: @Talha
  39. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Singh

    Indians don’t report rape because it is still a primitive society where rape victims are threatened with death. The idea of a higher rape rate in America is laughable. No one believes the official India stats on rape anyhow.

    • Replies: @Singh
    , @Anonymous
  40. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Susan

    Indians are not ethnocentric? How laughable. You must be an Indian sockpuppeting pretending to be white.

  41. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jason Liu

    Yes exactly.

    SJW are part of their programming and it has to do with their caste society.

  42. songbird says:
    @Thomm

    Skilled immigration isn’t operant in the most of the West. When people say they want skilled immigration they are really saying they want less immigration.

    As to losing out to other countries because of immigration, that’s basically a tax-cattle argument. I can’t think of any countries pushing ahead because of skilled immigration. The US certainly isn’t in danger of losing out to Canada. Japan seems like a pretty nice place. Its cities are notably safer, nicer and actually have social cohesion.

    I don’t think people who want their children to have a heritage are trash. Put the following proposition to any nonwhite: “Okay, you can have free immigration into our countries, but first you have to catch up to us in demographic change and then get as far ahead of us as we are of you at the moment.” No doubt you’ll see them get incredibly angry. Are they trash too?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anonymous
  43. Talha says:
    @Truth

    With a few Afghans, I would be thinking to myself “If I had to fight this guy it would be a hell of a war.”

    Growing up in the mosques in SoCal, the Afghans were the absolutely most terrifying bunch. Especially for a shorter, scrawny guy like me. It took me a long time just to add like 20 pounds of muscle – these guys were just solid. You did not want to get on their bad side. Good thing is, some brothers were able to get a whole crew of them on the straight and narrow. They are very friendly to their friends; you don’t want to be on the other side though.

    As far as the Pakistanis, it also depends on who you’re dealing with; Punjabis, Pathans, Sindhis, Balochis, etc.

    I’m actually surprised they gave you a tough time as an American since you are Black. Usually, people over there don’t associate foreign policies with America’s minorities but with its ruling elites. Well, I guess Obama might have changed that impression.

    I guess I was not the only one because the Gulf states no longer allow Afghans or Pakistanis (or Muslims from any poor country) to get work visas.

    Yeah, things are really shaking up soon. I think they’ve realized that they’ve got to start putting their own people to work before you have a situation where you can’t pay them handouts anymore.

    They don’t mind hiring Pakistanis to help train their militaries though. And guard themselves against internal rivals:
    “Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, often referred to by his initials MBS, is arranging the deployment of a Pakistani praetorian guard to the kingdom. Its size and purpose is unclear, but it is a revival of a military practice from the 1980s designed to protect the royal family from enemies at home and abroad.
    The Pakistani military announced Feb. 15 that it would deploy a force to Saudi Arabia to assist and train Saudi forces. The Pakistani press is reporting that a composite brigade-size force will be sent. They will join 1,000 army trainers and advisers already in Saudi Arabia.”

    https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/02/saudi-arabia-troops-pakistan-prince-mohammad-bin-salman-role.html

    Peace.

  44. Yan Shen says:

    Thomm, you’ve repeatedly insisted that you’re white, but I mean you have to be Indian right?

    • Replies: @TT
  45. And look at Dinesh D’Souza, the great darling of the neocon right, who spends most of his time trashing Democrats like Andrew Jackson as ruthless killers and slave owners. The goal here isn’t to just malign a political party, it’s to reframe the entire American project as a monstrous crime. Sorry but I won’t allow an Indian national to hector me about my own country’s history. India is an unspeakable cesspool which has given the world nothing except starving orphans, laughable “movies” where they can’t get the volume right and people crapping in the street. Most of their emigres here end up running 7-11s or hotels which are uniformly filthy and disgusting. Those of us who traveled through the country in the 1970s remember motels that were family-run and spotless.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @Singh
  46. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The Brits went thru Dunkirk for this?

  47. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    When people say they want skilled immigration they are really saying they want less immigration.

    Quite true. There is a whole dictionary of immigration euphemisms.

    Bilingual nanny = cheap Guatemalan who only speaks Spanish

    Unaccompanied Minor = 18-40 year old male with 2 rape convictions back home

    Jobs Americans Won’t Do = Jobs American Employers Won’t Pay For

    Undocumented = Mexican illegal living in low-rent part of town

    Illegal = Mexican illegal somehow living in expensive part of town

  48. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Proof that we are living in a tyranny

  49. Singh says:
    @Anon

    A Pakistani does equal 3-5 Hindus too bad the army they faced was all Sikhs।।

    • Replies: @TT
  50. Singh says:
    @Anonymous

    Americans also under report rape & even when accounting for this it is lower।।

    Racist christian bs like the above still passes for serious scholarship & is why the west reaps what it sows।।

    • Replies: @grapesoda
    , @Anonymous
  51. This sounds like cherry-picking. Indians (dot), especially northern who are basically darker Caucasians, desperately try to be as white as they can. Hence anti-tanning behavior etc.

    Author has chosen a few prominent lefty-liberal mouthpieces & got what he wanted.

    Sad!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  52. @Singh

    Well many of whom “putler” is fighting in Syria have been trained, wined and dined by the “chosen ones” and they’ve openly admitted they’d have their flag fly high in Damascus. They have no qualms murdering the oldest Christian community in the world as long as they achieve their goals in the region

    Uncle Sam is also A-OK with that (perhaps Uncle Schlomo is pointing a gun as usual to his back). This again shows you know nothing about the “west” or it’s demographics or complexities!

    • Replies: @Singh
  53. grapesoda says:
    @Singh

    Your Sikh ancestors would be ashamed of you. You don’t represent Indian culture, Hinduism, Vedas, Sikhism, Guru Nanak, or anything else. You’re just a run-of-the-mill piece of trash hateful human being. You don’t even understand what karma is, that’s how ignorant you are of your own religion. ।।

    narak mein jaloge
    mahaapaap bakwaas karte ho murkh
    ye sab jo tum socte ho adhunik hai
    dharmik bilkul nahin hai

    • Replies: @Talha
  54. bomag says:
    @Thomm

    About 80% of white Americans see skilled immigration as a plus (me among them).

    That doesn’t make it a good long term strategy. History is littered with bad populist strategies.

  55. TT says:
    @Yan Shen

    Ron unz has declared him Indian. Everywhere he promotes Indians good, bring in more, He is elite White… which sound very suspicious.

  56. @Susan

    Indian-Americans are not very ethnocentric.

    Lowest intermarriage rate of all Asian-Americans, including in the 2nd generation. At least according to Pew Research, whom I hold in higher esteem than your unverifiable anecdotes.

    Jewish tendency to sympathize and identify with the oppressed.

    This is a Jewish talking point. You are either Jewish yourself, or you have uncritically swallowed the Jewish propaganda that they tell themselves (and the world). Jews don’t ‘sympathise and identify’ with the ‘oppressed’.

    Jews support non-whites, and support non-white immigration to white-majority countries, because it helps their interests. There’s no nefarious conspiracy theory here. It’s just ethnocentrism.

    Again, look at Jews in their homeland – Israel – and their Jews-only immigration policy. They are a highly ethnocentric people. They support the left in the diaspora because it helps them as minorities. They then spin this as being more moral than the natives, but that is just hasbara. You are spreading the same bullshit, either because you’re Jewish yourself or you’re an easily gullible goyim.

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Singh
  57. TT says:
    @Singh

    The Punjabs & Sikhs in India really look warrior class to me, very tall stocky menacing that i would prefer to be their friend than enemy. Moreover, they are very friendly & loyal to friends. India leaders used them in security for their loyalty & bravery, but Ms Gandhi make mistake to storm their holy place.

    No doubt they are equivalent to 5 or 10 Hindu Indians. But war is now fight with high tech weapons, otherwise Americans won’t survive in ME or Afghanistan. India had an edge of weapons with Israel & Soviet help during that war.

    • Replies: @Singh
  58. This article also forgot to mention the viciously antiwhite Pramila Jayapal, Democrat Representative from Washington state.
    Another example is Sonali Kolhatkar, hostess of a far-Left talk show host.

    Dot Indians are a lot like ((Eskimos)) High verbal IQs who are disproportionately overrepresented and actively involved in far Left politics. They are the most left wing minority group in America -save for blacks-
    A whopping 84% of them voted for Obama in 2008. (Why do Indian-Americans flock to the Democratic Party? 6 September 2012 from the BBC)

  59. Joe Hide says:

    While it is very useful to classify based upon I.Q., the elephant in the room is not giving equal attention to determining who is a psychopath, sociopath, extreme narcissist, sadist, insane, or a control freak. A high I.Q. person or group in a position of power that has these traits is worse than a person of average intelligence who is a committed, hard working, truth seeking, humanitarian. The methods and technology exists to screen for the above anti-human traits, so why isnt it being done? The answer is obviously that some of those in positions of power, in the media, etc. dont want their true natures exposed.

  60. TT says:

    The uppermost caste, the Brahmins, are estimated to have an average score of around 110—putting them on the level of Ashkenazi Jews, and above east Asians and Europeans.

    That put them 1pt above ave Singaporean & HK. However, Indian CEO in top US corp aren’t from this Brahmin caste, but south india like Chennai.

    1.6billion of East Asian ave IQ is 105~109, it means the upper 1/3percentile 500Mil is at min above 110. Those could go to US study or work certainly belong to this group. So these uppermost caste Indians of ave IQ 110 at best slightly above average EAsian, but still well below the large group of upper percentile EAsian.

    Then why are there so many Indians CEO in top US corporates when hundreds of millions of EAsians have higher IQ than them?

    I would speculate on three reasons,
    (1)India is too poor to keep their best brains like EAsia.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/18/why-are-so-many-of-the-worlds-best-companies-run-by-indians-google-sundar-pichai/amp/

    According to a study in Harvard Business Review, as of mid-2013, India’s export share of Fortune Global 500 company CEOs — that is, CEOs who are heads of companies headquartered in a country not their own — is 30 percent. That places India in territory comparable to countries like Switzerland and the United Kingdom. Because of the visibility of these posts, the success of Indian-born chief executives in the cutthroat global arena is quite striking to their fellow Indians. To think that a country that until recently was considered synonymous with poverty and destitution is now producing world-beating chief executives at iconic global companies is a source of national pride.

    Rather, it speaks to the relative strength of the Chinese economy and areas where India continues to lag behind.

    For example, large Chinese firms pay salaries to upper management that are roughly the same as or only somewhat less generous than those for similar positions in the United States, whereas Indian salaries, converted at the actual exchange rate rather than at the purchasing power of the Indian rupee, still lag behind. According to a 2014 survey by consulting firm Towers Watson, pay for top executives in China was on average more than double that in India when converted into dollars.

    Also, perhaps surprisingly, despite concerns about pollution in China (though India’s is comparable, if not worse), China wins hands down as a favored destination for expats. In a 2013 survey by HSBC, China ranked No. 1 overall out of a total of 37 countries as a preferred expat destination.

    (2) Conspiracy theory:
    US deep state is trying to promote India is Great to counter China by placing Indians as prominent CEO, WH spoken person Raj Khan, UN Nikki…. US has unusual abnormal military alliance with India, FDI, Tech transfer, overlook of Modi’s massacre of Muslims, violate nuclear Non Proliferation Agreement with Canada & Australia to provide India free access to nuke material & tech, unrestricted acquire of strategic industries from steel, auto,…etc.)

    http://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/why-the-us-loves-indian-born-tech-ceos/

    While colonisation under the yoke of the British may not have been that great for the country for innumerable reasons (Indian GDP was 24 percent of the world’s economy when the Queen took over and was subsequently reduced to 4 percent in the twentieth century), they did give Indians the one thing that helps them vault over Chinese and European counterparts–the English language.

    (3) May be they are good English speaker to wiggle up to the top job while Chinese are good in founding the company like Yahoo. Then its one bring in another to dominate US corp & gov, there it turn itself from previous Anglo Slave to their Master. Kamma is fair afterall.

    Indian Weapon of Mass Migration will be next tsunami.

    Denk has previously comment a long list of big corporates sunk by Indian leadership.

  61. RD says:

    “Black and Hispanic writers and intellectuals notoriously have a very hard time writing about anything aside from themselves.”

    An article with such sweeping generalizations – and there are many more sprinkled throughout cannot be taken seriously.

  62. KenH says:

    Having so many outsiders in charge of such major companies would strike any healthy society as complete madness.

    What many don’t realize is that almost all of these Indian CEO’s are mostly affirmative action selections. The selection of Indian CEO’s over equally or more qualified native whites serves a two fold purpose of pleasing the government and media diversity commissars and the usual virtue signaling and race selling out by white elites.

    For years the media has been hammering Fortune 500 companies that their executive ranks are too white and too male and a growing number of major corporations were feeling the heat and desperate to have non-white faces at the top as a way of virtue signaling to the country and the world. Enter the Indian.

    This desperate need for racial diversity has aided Indians in ascending the corporate ranks to upper management which can then springboard them into the top spot or another lesser executive position.

    These Indians possess the education and work experience that blacks and Latinos generally lack. They’re also more intelligent and competent so can be trusted not to screw things up too badly when they’re promoted to management or executive position.

    Indians are simply reaping the benefits of cultural Marxism and political correctness as it concerns major corporations. It is not because they’re so blindingly brilliant.

    • Replies: @Numinous
    , @gT
  63. Talha says:
    @grapesoda

    What’s “adhunik”?

    I got the rest – and you get props for using the word “bakwaas” yaar…English needs to borrow this word…and “chuddies”.

    As far as threatening him with hell – is that common among Hindus? I’m just wondering? I’ve never heard it before. If I recall my childhood Indian movies – they used to use the word “jahannam”, no?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Numinous
  64. @Thomm

    It is my sincere hope that you get H1B’ed out of your job by your dusky ‘skilled’ imports, as thousands of my fellow American techs have.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Saxon
  65. Numinous says:
    @TT

    However, Indian CEO in top US corp aren’t from this Brahmin caste, but south india like Chennai.

    FYI, caste is not exclusive to region. The major caste divisions are (or were; it’s an institution that’s past its sell-by date and on its way out) represented throughout the country, Brahmins especially.

  66. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Polish Perspective

    Jews tend to get on some sort of ideological hobbyhorse, often they’re actually quite sincere and don’t recognize the ethnocentrism built into their worldview.

  67. Numinous says:
    @KenH

    It is not because they’re so blindingly brilliant.

    If you haven’t seen the movie “Margin Call”, I would highly recommend it. It’s set in 2008, during the economic crash. In one scene, the CEO of the company, who has been summoned for an emergency meeting to discuss how serious the situation is asks one of his lowly quants to describe the unprecedented amount of risk posed by the firm’s MBS portfolio (or something like that): “Speak as you might to a small child, or to a golden retriever.”

    Those who rise to C** corporate positions are not the “brilliant” ones. They are just the most competitive (and even ruthless) ones, with high EQ levels and possible high levels of psychopathy too. That applies to the whites as well as Indians or anyone else.

  68. Numinous says:
    @Talha

    What’s “adhunik”?

    Modern.

    • Replies: @Talha
  69. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    I will say though that WNs are going to be in a quandry – its likely if they want to “win”, they need to make alliance with someone not traditionally white. Even the Nazis had to. So who should it be?

  70. Thomm says:
    @BigjimSportCamper

    It is my sincere hope that you get H1B’ed out of your job by your dusky ‘skilled’ imports, as thousands of my fellow American techs have.

    LOL. It is a general consensus in the tech industry that only lower-skilled tech workers are in direct competition with H1-Bs. Higher-skilled people in tech are under no threat. H1-Bs are the Oompa loompas of tech.

    Only poor performers (such as you and your friends) need to worry.

    That said, I have always been opposed to the H1-B program for other reasons (as I have written about repeatedly), and I say H1-B should be abolished outright.

    • Replies: @Numinous
  71. Why does the author keep insisting that Indians are not white? The Indian language is from the Indo-European family, and most of Northern India is overwhelmingly Muslim (or was til the nation was divided off into Pakistan). And of course there are white Indians.

    If they’re not black and they’re certainly not Han Chinese, it would appear that for the most part, the racial designation of most Indians is white or white-related.

  72. gT says:
    @Anon

    Were the battle to be fought with swords and axes, then indeed one Pakistani soldier is easily equal to ten Hindus or Indian soldiers. But since wars are fought with guns these days, and since even a ten year old can pull a trigger, all infantry soldiers more or less are equal once the fire fight starts and they are all bearing armaments of more of less equal range and fire rate. In fact guns are called equalizers.

    “The gun has been called the great equalizer, meaning that a small person with a gun is equal to a large person, but it is a great equalizer in another way, too. It insures that the people are the equal of their government whenever that government forgets that it is servant and not master of the governed. When the British forgot that they got a revolution. And, as a result, we Americans got a Constitution; a Constitution that, as those who wrote it were determined, would keep men free. If we give up part of that Constitution we give up part of our freedom and increase the chance that we will lose it all.” ~Ronald Reagan

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @Singh
  73. It’s really a mystery why we have Indians here at all.

    I mean, Mexicans I can understand. They provide cheap labor and their country is right next to ours. It’s not that I agree with any of that, mind you; but the motivations behind it aren’t that complicated.

    But why import Indians from half way around the world who don’t add any value anyway? It’s just madness.

  74. peterike says:

    This piece is a great example of Peterike’s Law in action. The Law states: Asian immigration to America will ultimately be far more damaging than Hispanic immigration, and Hispanics ain’t no picnic.

    Indians are corrupt as the day is long, and may or may not be rapey, but they sure as hell are back-stabby. They must laugh their assess off over how easy it is to gull America. At the trashier end it’s Medicaid schemes and running Dr. Feelgood pill mills dishing out opioids. At the high end, it’s major corporate CEOs.

    Indians are definitely threats to Jewish hegemony, but as we’ve seen, they are more likely to side with the Jewish project of nation wrecking, because they are gaining immensely from it right now. And there’s room for a lot of new billionaires in America. Plenty more white wealth to skim and concentrate, so it’ll all be good for a while between our current overclass and our up-and-coming Asian overclass. At some point, there may be a falling out. But not for a good long while yet.

    I wonder if we’ll see more assortive mating between Indians and Jews? I would guess more Indian man/Jewish woman pairings, given how resolutely unattractive so many Indian women are. And Jewish men really do seem to have the Yellow Fever when it comes to marrying Asians.

    The real fun will be as America really starts to decline and there’s no more blood to suck out, and Jews start packing off for the East. That’s a lot easier to do with your Chinese wife or Indian husband in tow.

  75. @gT

    They are, but training, elan and support still matter. Going over released numbers: there is meaningful accuracy difference between even slightly trained and untrained combatants, between hit rates between male and female soldiers, and even in strength which does impact the ability to handle the recoil in assault weapons. Such differences can be magnified across larger numbers.

    Now, this might matter less in a world of artillery and drones, but that’s a different story than just infantry.

  76. gT says:
    @KenH

    This business of always putting Indians into management positions is just ridiculous. Just because they always dress professionally and can survive a whole day of meetings while the rest of us can’t sit for 30 minutes just talking without a drink in our hands is no reason to promote Indians to management.

    They talk incessantly and aren’t very technical, thought I have met a few who know their stuff. The majority just BS their way through work constantly asking others how to do things. They tend to gravitate towards positions with intangible deliverables and always pretend to be so busy. Not brilliant at all, but very high on the social networking scale.

    The majority of Indians are great chaps, humanists par excel lance, but that is still no reason to make them management. I have also encountered a few thoroughly psycho ones though, who are in total contrast to the humanists, being surprisingly dictatorial, yet not weighing much.

  77. Ram says:

    This reminds me of a well publicised comment made 40 years ago by a union leader that “Asian children do not want to become postmen, They aim to be doctors and lawyers”.

  78. Neal Peart says “needles at your nerve ends, crawl like spiders on your skin” is what you’ll get after reading Salon.

    Yeah, the India Indians. Another f*c&i#g group to worry about. These ones seem dangerous.

  79. j2 says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    “estimated IQ”, yes. One year more education rises the average IQ by 3 points. Anything below some 15-20 points difference can easily be because of environment, and strangely, the differences are seldom greater than this. Sometimes they are, and then there is genetics involved.

    American Indian higher IQ is due to selection, like American Jewish higher IQ. As it is due to selection, the distribution is skewed and the higher average does not imply that the fraction over some high threshold is any higher than it was in the population before selection (meaning, it can be 2 times higher if you drop the part below zero, but not more).

    Just stop this unscientific nonsense of IQ.

  80. gwynedd1 says:

    Upper class (import quality) Indians are the most coveted identity in the US to have as allies. Its a fresh coat of paint on somewhat passive disposition with a long history of civilization. No surprise everyone is fighting over them.

  81. gwynedd1 says:
    @Polish Perspective

    Whites are apparent leftist leaning as well. Look who brought us here. A 90% white majority decided to move left. Women are inherently leftist. And men are willing to trade politics for sex.

  82. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @waffleironmarch

    That’s ridiculous to equate the two. The Chinese racism against Africans is poking fun at them. The Indian racism towards Africans is beating and killing them. The two are not equal at all. Indians are effing barbaric and violent, just like their African kins.

  83. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    (Also, Nikki Haley is not particularly intelligent. I don’t know how she got her job, she is in the same class of females covering up lack of understanding through excessive emoting as Samantha Superpower)

    Totally agree. She is an effing moron. Ann Coulter constantly refers to her as “that daft woman”. She’s about as dumb and dogmatic as they come.

    • Replies: @Anon
  84. Numinous says:
    @Thomm

    LOL. It is a general consensus in the tech industry that only lower-skilled tech workers are in direct competition with H1-Bs. Higher-skilled people in tech are under no threat. H1-Bs are the Oompa loompas of tech.

    That’s untrue. Every foreign grad student hired by a US company, even the superstar PhDs from MIT or Caltech, get H1B visas in the beginning of their career. There literally is no other way for a foreign grad student to get into the US job market. The O-1 visa is for people with high eminence and a lot of experience (I think, because I don’t know anyone who’s ever got it; it’s designed to be unattainable to all except the 3-4 Einsteins of the world.)

    So among H-1B workers do lie some of the highest skilled people in the US. Whether they are competing with others or not is a different question and unanswerable in the general; it depends on what they are specifically being hired for.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  85. Numinous says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Why does the author keep insisting that Indians are not white? The Indian language is from the Indo-European family,

    I thought “white” referred to skin tone, not language.

    most of Northern India is overwhelmingly Muslim (or was til the nation was divided off into Pakistan)

    Wrong in both tenses.

    the racial designation of most Indians is white or white-related.

    The US Supreme Court in 1924 decreed otherwise: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Bhagat_Singh_Thind

  86. anon • Disclaimer says:

    This article is spot on. Make no bones about it, Indians are the new Jews. And their Jew masters love them because they are obedient, dogmatic, and dark skin.

    Indian women are taking to politics by storm, and practically all are lunatic leftists. In liberalism gone wild Western Washington, one of the most hated politicians is Seattle councilwoman Kshama Sawant. This daft Indian born leftist extremist can always be seen at every protest in Seattle, megaphone in hand. Another moron who recently got elected to congress as a house member representing Seattle is Pramila Jayapal, nicknamed Paypal. In the suburb of Seattle, the city of Redmond(home of Microsoft) recently elected a new state senator Manka Dinghra. All are left wing lunatics.

    Indian male entertainers and Silicon Valley techies are also extremely leftist — Aziz Ansari, Hassan Manhaj, Kumail Nanjiani, Sundra Pichai, Shervin Pishevar (Calexit supporting Venture Capitalist), all are drinking the Jew liberal Kool-Aid by the buckets.

    The only thing I disagree with in this article is the claim that these people are “high IQ”. Indians are chest thumping gorillas like many blacks. As Richard Lynn pointed out, the lower the IQ, the higher the self confidence. Only the low IQ are over confident. If these people really are that smart, they would know socialism was the reason why Indian is so F’ed up, and would not be demanding more of the same to turn the US into the next India. Few Chinese/Russian immigrants want to turn the US communist, they are smart and know better, but these chest thumping Indians are too dumb to figure that out.

    Being loquacious does not make you “high IQ”. Indians talk a lot, but what they say often has little substance, they are merely good at parroting the leftist talking points. Talkers don’t think, thinkers don’t talk. The Chinese/Russians are thinkers, they don’t talk much. Indians are talkers not thinkers. That’s why the jews love them and can’t import enough of them. They are being propped up by Jew run media/SV/Wall Street/K Street because they fit the purpose — loud, brash, speak English, good talkers, dogmatic, easily led, and most importantly, dark skin.

    • Replies: @Kolo
  87. If you control the messaging of identity and use the same as a method/gateway to employment, inclusion, acceptance, even a fence of safety. Then all outsiders will have to decide how and if they can make the grade, that is dependent on what they are willing to give up. Conservatives who are non-whites, can certainly be so beyond a pretense of having a self that they twist themselves into extremes to belong. Afterall, they have families to feed, bills to pay — if adopting a political persona will help them jump some hurdles, it makes practical sense. And some will be able to to do more than that because their skin tones are so slight of color, that unless they themselves states so — one would not even notice they were anything but. And no doubt holding whiteness up as some manner of standard of goodness is useful, even if either false or relevant, is a powerful persuader. I has taken Mr. D’ Souza a bout in prison before coming to realize that “color” matters afterall. He realized that attempting to be race neutral can blind one to to reality.

    The pressures are no less powerful for liberally minded b;lacks. They have had to swallow a mountain of nonsense to get their slice of pie: homosexuality is normal, white women and homosexual discrimination history is the same as that of blacks, affirmative action is a women’s program (might as well be) . . . etc. Liberals, must eat long list of deprecating required beliefs to be let in for love or money.

    So an article that notes the frustrations of what it means to be oneself, alive to acceptance, is hardly a shock, when one, feels free to express that reality. I suspect, it’s a risk, to reveal one’s “true” experience. Given the dynamics of bread, butter and the tricky process of assimilation, given that the liberal path is the path of least resistance, it’s a “no brainer” that foreign immigrants, no matter how conservative they are at home, will gravitate to a liberal mindset. One of the reasons i avoid the issues about my personal biological attributes is that so many people will tend to make assumptions about motive and content, so as to render discussion all but useless. But complaints about identity politics when the country was born of identity politics is a strange twist.

    And that is why, I reject, the rather bankrupt manipulative advance, that we need to accept the best and the brightest” from elsewhere. Immigration needs to be all but shutoff, for five years at least. And even then, I doubt we will be able to repair the damage of failing to insist that new comers assimilate. it would be great to be able to blame blacks for all that amiss with the country. But the reality is that blacks have never been the prime shakers in the choices that have undermine US polity.

  88. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @bhui

    Y

    ou think the diaspora of the chosen wrecked things, wait till you see the devastation after the Hindu.

    The Hindus are the diaspora’s new trained dogs, they are more predictable and easier to train than the volatile, unpredictable, ungrateful blacks — just high enough IQ to bark as told, not high enough IQ to figure out they are being used to destroy their new host country.

  89. Singh says:
    @TT

    Hindus are our brothers even if at the moment they’re acting like suicidal gays (Secular Delhi Lutyens class)

    Punjabis are nothing without Sikhi।।

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Bliss
  90. If you control the messaging of identity and use the same as a method/gateway to employment, inclusion, acceptance, even a fence of safety. Then all outsiders will have to decide how and if they can make the grade, that is dependent on what they are willing to give up. Conservatives who are non-whites, can certainly be so beyond a pretense of having a self that they twist themselves into extremes to belong. Afterall, they have families to feed, bills to pay — if adopting a political persona will help them jump some hurdles, it makes practical sense. And some will be able to to do more than that because their skin tones are so slight of color, that unless they themselves states so — one would not even notice they were anything but. And no doubt holding whiteness up as some manner of standard of goodness is useful, even if either false or relevant, is a powerful persuader. I has taken Mr. D’ Souza a bout in prison before coming to realize that “color” matters afterall. He realized that attempting to be race neutral can blind one to to reality.

    The pressures are no less powerful for liberally minded b;lacks. They have had to swallow a mountain of nonsense to get their slice of pie: homosexuality is normal, white women and homosexual discrimination history is the same as that of blacks, affirmative action is a women’s program (might as well be) . . . etc. Liberals, must eat long list of deprecating required beliefs to be let in for love or money.

    So an article that notes the frustrations of what it means to be oneself, alive to acceptance, is hardly a shock, when one, feels free to express that reality. I suspect, it’s a risk, to reveal one’s “true” experience. Given the dynamics of bread, butter and the tricky process of assimilation, given that the liberal path is the path of least resistance, it’s a “no brainer” that foreign immigrants, no matter how conservative they are at home, will gravitate to a liberal mindset. One of the reasons i avoid the issues about my personal biological attributes is that so many people will tend to make assumptions about motive and content, so as to render discussion all but useless. But complaints about identity politics when the country was born of identity politics is a strange twist.

    And that is why, I reject, the rather bankrupt manipulative advance, that we need to accept the best and the brightest” from elsewhere. Immigration needs to be all but shutoff, for five years at least. And even then, I doubt we will be able to repair the damage of failing to insist that new comers assimilate. it would be great to be able to blame blacks for all that amiss with the country. But the reality is that blacks have never been the prime shakers in the choices that have undermined US polity.

  91. Singh says:
    @Polish Perspective

    Check this out it counters Kevin Macdonald culture of critique & instead links most Jewish Leftist activism to a heretical sect of Judaism & few well connected families especially German Jews।।

    https://therebbeblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/25/sabbatean-frankism-as-the-paradigm-of-the-modern-left/

    https://therebbeblog.wordpress.com/2018/03/05/the-truth-about-islamic-immigration/

    Gonna share these with Karlin & Spandrell I guess maybe also Imperial Energy.

    I mean normal Jews are still cow slaughtering circumcised ones but Slavs still do the former।।

  92. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Hit the nail on the head!

  93. Singh says:
    @gT

    Except Muslims only won when they had gunpowder & Hindus didn’t।।

    Battle of Chamkaur, Muktsar, Bhangani etc show you suck with a blade, fam.

    • Replies: @gT
  94. Singh says:
    @HogHappenin

    So this counters my point that it’s better for India to export its trash leftists than have them cause trouble domestically, how?

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
    , @Byrresheim
  95. anon • Disclaimer says:

    What makes Leftist Indians special is that they are both non-white and intelligent— “blacks with brains,” as they are sometimes brutally characterized.

    Indians are well educated, but as we’ve seen many well educated liberals, it doesn’t mean they are intelligent. Truly intelligent people can never be liberals, because they would know quickly that liberal dogma easily falls apart in the face of logic and reason.

    Indians are loved by liberals because they fit the purpose: non-white, English speaking, brash, often well educated thereby giving off the impression that they are intelligent, not high enough IQ to figure out the fallacy of the liberal dogma, yet just high enough IQ to be more easily trained than blacks and hispanics. Many Ivy League trained East Asians are now drinking the liberal Kool Aid just like the Indians, like Theodore Chang, Derrick Watson, Ted Liu, all are well trained dogs like Obama and the Indian horde. In fact, many liberals are “well-educated”, it seems the more education one has, the stupider one gets.

  96. Talha says:
    @Singh

    But aren’t the lion’s share of Punjabis actually Muslims and then Hindus and then Sikhs?

    Or maybe that’s what you meant…

    Peace.

  97. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Haley is anything but dumb. She knows exactly what she needs to do. Coulter, on the hand, is a convoluted skank, a covetous bag of bones, that has never risen to anything that amounts to anything.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @EliteCommInc.
  98. anon • Disclaimer says:

    If Indians were really that bright, India wouldn’t be such a shit hole.

    If you insist that there really are a lot of bright Indians, it’s just as a percentage they are small, then all the more reason we should leave them in India. They are needed much more in India than they are here. It’s time for us to do the responsible thing and stop stealing the “best and brightest” from the third world. All these bright Indians should be encouraged to go home and Make India Great Again!

  99. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    Most Americans (including Jared Taylor) recognize that highly-skilled immigration is economically valuable, and that if we don’t bring them in, their output will benefit some other country.

    According to this Reuter’s poll:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-worries/americans-worry-that-illegal-migrants-threaten-way-of-life-economy-idUSKBN0G70BE20140807

    Vanderbur was among the 45 percent of people in the poll, carried out between July 15-22, who said the number of immigrants legally allowed to enter the country should be reduced.

    Only 17 percent thought more legal immigrants should be allowed to come to the United States. Thirty-eight percent said the number should stay the same.

  100. 0 Hindu Legal Immigrants should have been the policy since 1945….The demographics of every Engineering department at every US University is indistinguishable from the demographics of every engineering department in India…

    I oppose testing Working Class Native Born White American School Children for this reason:IQ tests track them into canon fodder in the Middle East…while the Hindus and Iranians lay a claim to Working Class Native Born White American Living and Breeding Space……The whole thing is disgusting….

    • Replies: @Bliss
  101. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Why does the author keep insisting that Indians are not white? The Indian language is from the Indo-European family, and most of Northern India is overwhelmingly Muslim (or was til the nation was divided off into Pakistan). And of course there are white Indians.

    What’s the difference between Indians and whites?

    Indians think they are white, whites don’t think they are Indian.

  102. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Negative. Ann Coulter is brilliant, and a true patriot. Nikki Haley is a pathetic mindless Ziocon dog who is one of Trump’s biggest mistakes.

  103. Singh says:
    @anon

    Yes, India could not be the anti Hindu secular apartheid state it is now without emigration।।

    The people living outside would have overthrown the cucked HINO gov।।

  104. Thomm says:
    @Numinous

    That’s untrue. Every foreign grad student hired by a US company, even the superstar PhDs from MIT or Caltech, get H1B visas in the beginning of their career.

    That elite may be the minority of H1-Bs, yes. But you should debate against the White Trashionalists who believe ‘H1-B’ means some Indian working for 20% of the local wage, and with only an 82 IQ. Remember, I am the one who is in favor of Indians, simply because they are the highest-skilled group in America (on average). I similarly favor Filipino, Chinese, Iranian, etc. immigration (as long as it stays high-skilled), as much as I think America should attract all the smartest Russians, Ukrainians, Greeks, etc.

    I believe the H1-B program should be abolished altogether, but for different reasons than the White Trashionalists do (they think H1-B = Indian = low IQ, which is obviously not the whole story or even part of it).

    Remember that White Trashionalists are the males of the bottom 20% of whites (the females are the fat bluehaired feminists), and white variance is unusually high. Normal whites (like me) hate White Trashionalists since they are a defective subrace of whites.

  105. @anon

    0 LEGAL immigrants from India…this should have been the policy since 1945…

    The Hindus and Sihks are a major political force in the US…And this highly racialized nonwhite Democratic Party political force started as a trickle of a few Hindu and Sihk LEGAL immigrants in the 1960’s and really 1970s….Which allowed the Hindus and Sihks to form a beachhead…now they have gone over the Sea-Wall and gone on to own the US Congress through an organization called The India Policy Group…

  106. Dmitry says:
    @Bragadocious

    India is an unspeakable cesspool which has given the world nothing except starving orphans, laughable “movies” where they can’t get the volume right and people crapping in the street.

    India produced one of the world’s most noble philosophical traditions, that inspired even the highest-level Western philosophers such as Schopenhauer and Nietzsche.

    • Agree: AaronB
    • Replies: @anonymous
  107. “This is why more and more Indians can be found in important positions across the Left…

    With “right-wing” Indians like these, who needs left-wing Indians?

    … the people discussed here are merely a vanguard of what is come.”

    Well, articles like “Blacks with Brains” probably don’t leave many with the idea that there’s a big place in the right for them.

    1. People make decisions based on power – obviously not just good arguments or even “tribe”, but based on power, i.e.: they bake in how they can be on the winning-side, whatever the winning-side is
    2. Immigrant groups have zero-interest in self-automatizing themselves and becoming libertarian, so that’s a dead letter but libertarians still haven’t figured that out

    3. “White” people, especially, “white men” are not allowed to consolidate
    4. Even when they try – they write articles like this which does not telegraph that their “thought leaders” are thinking ahead to how they may form winning alliances
    5. Any winning alliance based on “white” skin color is destined either never to happen in the first place because it will always be fragmented, … or: to be unstable if there is a brief win because man does not live on bread, or skin color, alone … and quickly idiots, sociopaths, psychopaths and déclassé half wits will find themselves in all the positions the writer above finds African and Hispanic Americans incapable of, but they will find themselves there because of the “right” pallor – and any “gains” will quickly reverse themselves

    Asians … WANT … “white people” … to get their sh*t together. They don’t want a slugfest in their adopted land.

    But there’s nothing to unite or join forces with. Just look at this article, and the next five.

    Look at the Chinese “soft power” Confucius Institute. This invites non-Chinese to partake in Chinese culture, even though they cannot be Han.

    When European Americans can find a unifying principle that isn’t libertarianism, and isn’t implicitly racist (and more importantly: exclusionist) “white” – they’ll project a message of strength-through-unity that Asians will respond to, and they’ll have a basis for inviting Asians – and others – to the table.

    Until then: no dice.

    • Replies: @edgeslider
  108. conatus says:

    Indians are on the Federal Government’s list of socially disadvantaged AND at the same time Number One on the list of income by ethnicity in Wikipedia.

    Title 13 of the USCode of Federal Regulations defines who goes to the front of the line for set asides in the USA.
    13 CFR § 124.103 Who is socially disadvantaged?

    (a)General. Socially disadvantaged individuals are those who have been subjected to racial or ethnic prejudice or cultural bias within American society because of their identities as members of groups and without regard to their individual qualities. The social disadvantage must stem from circumstances beyond their control.

    (b)Members of designated groups.

    (1) There is a rebuttable presumption that the following individuals are socially disadvantaged: Black Americans; Hispanic Americans; Native Americans (Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, or enrolled members of a Federally or State recognized Indian Tribe); Asian Pacific Americans (persons with origins from Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, Japan, China (including Hong Kong), Taiwan, Laos, Cambodia (Kampuchea), Vietnam, Korea, The Philippines, U.S. Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (Republic of Palau), Republic of the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, Samoa, Macao, Fiji, Tonga, Kiribati, Tuvalu, or Nauru); Subcontinent Asian Americans (persons with origins from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, the Maldives Islands or Nepal); and members of other groups designated from time to time by SBA according to procedures set forth at paragraph (d) of this section. Being born in a country does not, by itself, suffice to make the birth country an individual’s country of origin for purposes of being included within a designated group.

    So why are ‘persons with origin from India’ eligible when they are the number one ethnic group in terms of income in the USA?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @TT
  109. Sparkon says:
    @TT

    Denk has previously comment a long list of big corporates sunk by Indian leadership.

    I think I remember reading this, but Gargle may be hiding results using search argument in (my) bold, above. Can you give a link to Denk’s comment?

    Meanwhile, can there be any doubt we should open our arms to these paragons of virtue from the land of the rigid caste system, and its Sacred Cows.


    Window Dressing at the Hall of Honesty
    Image: Daily Mail

    • Replies: @TT
  110. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    It would take a worldwide upgrade in the group-affiliation neuro-cortical firmware to get to where you are talking about.
    Not that that wouldn’t be a welcome thing, but we’re not there.

  111. There is no economic case for race-replacing Native Born White American Males in Engineering and Medicine…Science…with Legal Immigrants from India…China…Iran…Pakistan…..and Korea…

    Do the Chinese in China make an economic case for having themselves race-replaced in the Engineering Departments at Chinese Universities with Hindu Legal Immigrants from India?…Before this ever happens there would be race riots all across China…followed by China and India nuking each other off the map….Think about it…

  112. I would like to see a movement organized around precisely one thing – dedicated to electing a President and a majority in Congress, entirely on one simple principle – and out of that principle, all other things (wall, immigration reform, trade reform, education, etc.) will follow.

    It’s one – completely unbendable – “we will fragment the union over this if we had to” – principle.

    Here’s the principle:

    Companies, organizations and governments must continue to state this when posting employment ads:

    “…prohibits discrimination based on race, color, religion, gender, national origin, age, disability, veteran status, marital status, pregnancy, or any other legally protected status”.

    AND … law, and enforcement of the law, is fully, entirely, totally reformed, so as to conform enforcement according to the actual plain-language meaning of those words.

    This movement can be motivated by the reminder that entire wars and mass emigrations and immigration have occurred, for thousands of years – because this or that race, ethnicity, or religion, was favored, and another was disfavored …

    …where it comes to economic opportunity.

    Pay attention that Trump would rather give you a wall than place this front and center. That tells you two things:

    1) A wall is easier
    2) This – actually forbidding discrimination on the basis of race, etc. – would actually matter, decisively so

    • Replies: @Thomm
  113. Thomm says:
    @conatus

    So why are ‘persons with origin from India’ eligible when they are the number one ethnic group in terms of income in the USA?

    They should not be.

    In fact, some obscure Section 8A rule was used by a few Indians but cost more in terms of damaging what would have been a pristine record of success without affirmative action. As you can see, ALL Asian countries are included in the passage you excerpted, so Indian’s can’t be excluded. But the whole thing should be abolished (as should all such affirmative action).

    It is well-known to Unz.com readers that Asians (Chinese, Indians, etc.) do NOT get affirmative action in Ivy League admissions, corporate jobs, etc. Everyone from Derbyshire to Sailer has confirmed this :

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/

    • Replies: @Joe Franklin
  114. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    American women probably underreport rape because the culture here is so sexualized, so they don’t see it as out of the ordinary to have some dude grope them in a nightclub. The number of uninvited sexual assaults happening in NYC nightclubs every night probably far exceeds the number of sexual assaults in India per day. But American women don’t report them to the cops as sexual assault because they’ve been socialized to believe it’s okay, even though they may feel violated.

    Indians are far more conservative and even normal consensual sex can be regarded as scandalous if outside of marriage. And there’s far less mingling of the sexes.

    Violent gangrapes, probably higher in India. But then again I’m sure the inner cities in America can give any Indian city a run for its money.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  115. Bliss says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    The demographics of every Engineering department at every US University is indistinguishable from the demographics of every engineering department in India…

    Hogwash. Chinese outnumber Indians in STEM in America.

    Looks like “Blacks with Brains” aka Indians are confusing and annoying the race-obsessed megalomaniacs of the alt-right.

    Here are the 40 finalists in this week’s 2018 Regeneron (formerly Intel) Science Talent Search, also known as the Junior Nobels (first prize is $250,000):

    https://student.societyforscience.org/sites/student.societyforscience.org/files/styles/article-main-image-large/public/2018/01/STS_017_18_A_for%20web.png?

    Out of the 40 finalists (each of whom have won $25,000 already) 9 are Euro-Americans. And 3 of these 9 are probably Jewish (going by surname). 17 are south asians (including 2 muslims). 14 are east asians (including 2 eurasians).

    So only 6 of the 40 are non-jewish whites despite being well over half the population. You can’t blame affirmative action for these numbers, can you?

  116. Thomm says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    I would like to see a movement organized around precisely one thing – dedicated to electing a President and a majority in Congress, entirely on one simple principle – and out of that principle, all other things (wall, immigration reform, trade reform, education, etc.) will follow.

    I would make it even simpler.

    I would like to organize everything around the goal that only current and past taxpayers can vote. The exact details can be worked out (either $2000 paid in Federal income tax in the calendar last year, or over $20,000 cumulative taxes paid in the past (to enable a retiree who worked a lifetime to still vote), or some other comparable metric).

    Every other problem will sort itself out. As frivolous government spending shrinks, most women, blacks, and WN wiggers will lose the right to vote even though the policy itself does not discriminate on race, gender, and other external factors. Most illegals will return home, and immigration will automatically select for just the highly skilled. Blue states will truly see the subsidies pulled out from under them (the current tax reform was just a tiny fraction of what should have been done).

    Currently, 47% of adults don’t pay net income tax, but even that understates the problem, as people in make-work jobs (i.e. black women in cushy government sinecures) technically are not in this 47% but are still part of the same moocher class since their entire high-paying make-work job would not exist under this tighter model of voter qualification.

    If the ‘smarter’ people (who pay the taxes) can’t organize around this goal and outsmart the moochers, then frankly, they can’t blame anyone but themselves.

    • Replies: @Bay Area Guy
  117. @Anon

    There are plenty of reasons to challenge Miss Coulter. However, her analytical skills, and intelligence and willingness to contend the unpopular has made her an invaluable voice on behalf of immigration issues – this is particularly the case.

    And one has cause to be concerned about her thinness, not as critic, but a concern for her health —

    Despite our many disagreements, I would not wish her ill health.
    .

  118. This article makes a couple of errors.

    1. Regarding the firing James Damore, there’s little proof that the Indian CEO harbors SJW sentiments. A more simple and accurate explanation is that big corporations are allergic to bad publicity, and care more about the bottom line than the wounded feelings of women and minorities.

    2. Regarding Jacobin , I don’t get any anti-white vibe from them. If anything, the socialist-leaning crowd tends to look at identity politics askance.

    In general, I don’t think that Indians – or Asians in general – are genuinely leftist. They’re simply visible minorities acting in the best interests of their tribe. One only has to look at how they behave in countries where they’re the majority.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  119. As for the dance about blacks and IQ from India or anywhere else. The problem with these samples, is that they represent a very small portion of the societies they supposedly represent. And there rarity suggests that even among Indians, high IQ is not required to be moral, or successful.

    Spoken as someone with a low IQ.

  120. @Thomm

    Perhaps I’m being pedantic, but anyone who receives paychecks or shops pays taxes – which is most people. I also fail to see how we should build upon the tax reform; it was a garbage policy that’s merely given corporations more money to buy back their shares and pay out dividends.

    Additionally, under your preferred policy, would billionaires and other rentiers lose out? After all, the biggest moochers are on top.

  121. Bliss says:
    @Singh

    How do you reconcile Hindu casteism and idol worship with Sikhism which rejects both?

    The overwhelming majority of Sikhs are descended from the lowest caste (Sudra) and the outcaste (Dalits, formerly known as Chandalas).

    Isn’t it strange that these two castes, who are the great majority of Hindus, cling to a religion that demeans them as congenitally inferior?

  122. Thomm says:
    @Bay Area Guy

    1. Regarding the firing James Damore, there’s little proof that the Indian CEO harbors SJW sentiments. A more simple and accurate explanation is that big corporations are allergic to bad publicity, and care more about the bottom line than the wounded feelings of women and minorities.

    Of course. The real power behind the decision is the manjawed Shebrew Anne Wojcicki. Steve Sailer came to this conclusion as well. Pichai probably never had direct experience with this sort of illogical feminism before this incident.

    In general, I don’t think that Indians – or Asians in general – are genuinely leftist.

    Of course not. Asians voted 65% Republican as recently as 1996 (i.e. they were more Republican than whites). Only later did they swing dramatically the other way due to cuckservative phoniness and the migration of WN wiggers from the Dems to the GOP.

    By contrast, WN is a left-wing ideology in economic matters, as it is really just a plea for intra-white socialism. The bottom 20% of whites (in brains/looks/talent/character) are accustomed to being subsidized by the other 80% and now they face competition from blacks and Hispanics. That is all there is to WN.

  123. Thomm says:
    @Bliss

    So only 6 of the 40 are non-jewish whites despite being well over half the population. You can’t blame affirmative action for these numbers, can you?

    Oh he can… just not with any logic that anyone with an IQ over 70 would find sound. His opening volley will be that this is all because of affirmative action, despite the total absence of blacks in the list.

    He also does not grasp that if those people did not come here, then their home countries would have them, and they would be our c0mpetitors rather than at least working within the US economy.

    • Replies: @utu
  124. Bliss says:
    @Bliss

    Hinduism in principle is the very epitome of hereditarianism while the Indian religions and philosophies that reject it’s caste system (Sramanism, Buddhism, Jainism, Yoga, Tantra, Sikhism etc) are egalitarian in principle.

    Hindu India is glaring evidence of hereditarianism’s failure.

  125. Singh says:
    @Bragadocious

    It’s been the largest economy for much of history providing everything from advances in mathematics to metallurgy।।

    That its fights with Islam has left it exhausted should be a warning to you but O well. Today India has Khalsa & you have the democrats.

    The tables have turned & your grandchildren will see this clearly।।

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @MarkinLA
  126. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Singh

    I thought you were going to leave this thread alone ;)

    Couldn’t resist could you?

    Americans also under report rape, but not near as much as Indians do. It isn’t even close. Indian women reporting rape leaves them vulnerable to getting killed because India is still a primitive society. America does not punish the raped woman or have such stupid things like to or killings or acid throwing.

    The only thing keeping Western women from getting raped in mass from Indian men in Silicon Valley is the complete Betaness of Indian men and how physically weak they are. Most Western woman would beat down an Indian rapist.

    Also, denying an actual problem in India like rape is why India reaps what it sows.

    • Replies: @Singh
  127. Singh says:
    @Bliss

    By not having an abrahamic worldview which rejects any truth outside its own religion as falsity।।

    Majority of Sikh are from Ksytria & then small minority are Brahmin or Dalit।।

    Doubt you’re a Sikh more likely a missionary so we’ll leave it at that।।

    -
    Isn’t it strange that white nationalists can more readily quote the bible, a book about an alien hated people, than anything about their own traditions?

    Isn’t it also funny that bible just means book & christcucks couldn’t come up with anything better?

    :D

    • Replies: @Bliss
  128. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    You sound like someone who has never actually met an Indian much less had to deal with them in groups. The author is spot on.

  129. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Lol. This poster is obviously a cringey Indian who desperately wants to be accepted as white.

    These Indians are a dime a dozen.

  130. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Nope, all rapes are higher in India. Just watch India’s Daughter about Indian men’s thoughts on rape.

    No other society is as backwards and primitive as Indias.

    • Replies: @Singh
  131. utu says:
    @Thomm

    He also does not grasp that if those people did not come here, then their home countries would have them, and they would be our c0mpetitors rather than at least working within the US economy.

    Very self-serving and disingenuous coming from you. Believe me, we would be better off if you stayed in India. Western civilization developed w/o any Indians and and did pretty well. Indian contribution to Western civilization is zero, I mean the concept of zero and zero, zilch beyond that. Go back to India.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Singh
  132. Bliss says:
    @Singh

    Majority of Sikh are from Ksytria & then small minority are Brahmin or Dalit।।

    That’s a lie. The rajputs are the kshatriyas and they are a very small minority of Sikhs. The majority of Sikhs are jats who were peasants and in the Hindu caste system belong to the sudra caste. Second in number are the former outcastes.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jat_people

    Uma Chakravarti reports that the varna status of the Jats improved over time, with the Jats starting in the untouchable/chandala varna during the eighth century, changing to shudra status by the 11th century, and with some Jats striving for zamindar status after the Jat rebellion of the 17th century.[72]

    The Rajputs refused to accept Jat claims to kshatriya status during the later years of the British Raj and this disagreement frequently resulted in violent incidents between the two communities.[73] The claim at that time of kshatriya status was being made by the Arya Samaj, which was popular in the Jat community. The Arya Samaj saw it as a means to counter the colonial belief that the Jats were not of Aryan descent but of Indo-Scythian origin.[74]

    The upper caste Hindu’s denigration of the Jat did not in the least lower the Jat in his own eyes nor elevate the Brahmin or the Kshatriya in the Jat’s estimation. On the contrary, he assumed a somewhat condescending attitude towards the Brahmin, whom he considered little more than a soothsayer or a beggar, or the Kshatriya, who disdained earning an honest living and was proud of being a mercenary.[68] (Khushwant Singh, sikh scholar)

    • Replies: @Singh
  133. Thomm says:
    @utu

    Very self-serving and disingenuous coming from you. Believe me, we would be better off if you stayed in India. Western civilization developed w/o any Indians and and did pretty well. Indian contribution to Western civilization is zero, I mean the concept of zero and zero, zilch beyond that. Go back to India.

    Putting aside the fact that I am not an Indian..

    Thanks for proving that White Trashionalists are just talentless moochers who want intra-white socialism.

    You are forgetting that white variance is very high, and that if the bottom 20% of whites were given land to build their own country, it would be worse than Liberia. You have nothing in common with successful whites, since you are a defective subrace that our waste matter accumulates into. That is why white women have completely (and rightly) shut you out of white society.

    Get your hand out of my pocket, faggot.

    • Replies: @Anon
  134. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    Get your hand out of my pocket, faggot.

    Putting aside the fact that I am not an Indian..

    Autist then?

    • Replies: @SOL
  135. uman says:
    @TT

    jesus TT, learn how to write english.

    • Replies: @TT
  136. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Polish Perspective

    No one mentioned Ajit Pai, I think. Weev https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weev loves him:

    Ajit Pai, the invincible Aryan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjTb99CUGrY

    An important message about our FCC chairman

    Video time-stamped to 6 min 18 sec:

    Net Neutrality II: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

    Ajit Pai drinking a Silly giant Reese’s mug

  137. TT says:
    @uman

    Im trying, pls be patient. After stop writing & reading for more than 15yrs, im picking up again these 2mths in unz. Thks for advising, i will restraint from posting until my English improve enough.

  138. TT says:
    @Sparkon

    I think I remember reading this, but Gargle may be hiding results using search argument in (my) bold, above. Can you give a link to Denk’s comment?

    Previously i could find these info in gargle when i read Denk comment. But yesterday i tried again, it only return result with everything good about India, may be Pichai has algorithm improved.

    You can search all Denk comments with keyword before it get wipe.

  139. SOL says:

    South Asians seem to be the new pet minority for television shows these days too — merely help from leftist casting directors or an organized conspiracy?

  140. Singh says:
    @Anonymous

    They need christ fkn heathens. I mean American white women are raped in the scores by black men everyday. Are we forgetting that?

    You’re a pathetic normie, normally you disagree with the Mainstream Media but anything about pagans or India to justify your slavery to the Jew & you swallow it all।।

    • Replies: @Truth
  141. Singh says:
    @Bliss

    There’s no India wide caste system in which various tribes are placed. A blacksmith tribe in one state can be Warriors in another So..

    • Replies: @Bliss
  142. Singh says:
    @Anonymous

    Not sure you realize the magnitude of difference because in your racist mind Indians just rape everything & are subhuman savages for resisting Liberalism & Christianity.

    No organization supports what you say as multiplying the Indian rape rate a magnitude still leaves it lower than the USA. Other violent crime indicators in India are also lower so it’s unlikely there’d be one outlier.

    You’re probably a low status white male & need the boost by hating on similar status Indian ones।।

    I haven’t really engaged the ideology of the thread too much but I’m not going to let a bunch of jew slaves insult my Motherland Either।।

  143. LOL the UNZ commentariat goes from Dindu bashing to Hindu bashing.

    • LOL: Truth
  144. @Singh

    When India is FULLY on board with the Zionists and as such India’s elitists have the exact same demeanor like the “Chosen Ones”, extremely crafty and cunning, able to blend in and carry out their own agenda, subterfuge par excellence!

    I think the marriage is a match made in heaven. Once they have completely neutralized and taken down the white man in the western world, I wonder will it be a power struggle between the two or will the Indians be OK with being Tier II, below the J and much much above the umpteen whites/blacks/hispanics etc!!

    Thankfully, I’ve left this mad house quite some time back. Conservative whites must think of Eastern Europe or Russia or the slavic countries as the Pharisaic stranglehold on the white man’s neck in the west is not going to be let loose in the near future! Invade, destroy and invite is the policy that will continue in the near future and brainwashing to hate the slavs is now going on full steam to prepare for an eventual takedown of Russia (and the US) by way of mutual war! At least when you are with your own, you can fight for something you believe in.

    Today the US army fights and dies and kills for these zionists to rule, enslave and destroy not just the ME but the whites themselves. Invade and destroy, then invite! Where is the honor in that?

  145. gT says:
    @Singh

    Good point, however Indians are definitely not very physical, I’ve always considered Indians to be house niggers, not field niggers, which is the reason why they do so well in the boardrooms.

  146. TT says:
    @anon

    http://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/why-the-us-loves-indian-born-tech-ceos/

    While colonisation under the yoke of the British may not have been that great for the country for innumerable reasons (Indian GDP was 24 percent of the world’s economy when the Queen took over and was subsequently reduced to 4 percent in the twentieth century), they did give Indians the one thing that helps them vault over Chinese and European counterparts–the English language.

    It would be incorrect to say Indians are genetically stupid & has few talent. This is a country with longer civilization than China or any one. Their spiritual development is the apex, from Buddhism, Hinduism, jainism, Vedas, naked ascetic, animal ascetic to whateverism you named it.

    Many yrs ago, India responded to US Supercomputer & tech embargo by coming out with its own indigenous supercom within a year. To launch satellites, conduct space technology & do nuclear, these required top genius scientists. Korean lacked such caliber, still fail to launch satellite even using Russia rockets. Japan is not doing well too. Only Russia, US, China have such scientists, India is catching up on space. Pakistan has that kind of scientists too, Takasila was part of North India, where their best academy concentrated since old ancient time. But the relocation of muslim-Hindu after independent had changed its profile.

    British colonization had reduced India 24% GDP to 4% of world’s, that reveal how destructive it was. Poverty, corruption, illiteracy, (caste system), land hoarding, Hindu-Muslim tension & border disputes are what their colonial master left for them.

    No doubt these top Indian CEO are bright, but certainly India needs them for country dev more than those cheap pride bestow by their Anglo master. Japan & China are keeping their best brains for country dev.

    20yrs ago Taiwan gov launched a program to attract their best brain in US to return by providing them investment fund. I think the slogan was something like: Why earn a few millions as employees when you can bcom own boss of your products? Many responded, one example is UMC semiconductor started by a return Taiwanese, Principal engineer of Intel. You can still find many top Chinese scientists & engineers in US. China is also doing that come-back-home program now.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  147. Singh says:

    Most of the comments are average american ignorance about the world & can’t really be contended with via words alone।।

    Only thing to tell white civic trashisationalists is this

    You’re still thinking idiocally in terms of civic nationalism।।

    It doesn’t actually matter if a minority is superior, inferior etc all that matters is how useful they are to the elite।।

    http://www.socialmatter.net/the-compendium/

    Familiarize yourself with terms,

    You debate Indian iq but are unaware of castefootball.com for example,

    If normal alt right has NE bias this one has West Coast one.

    You’re focused on engaging the mass of your enemy instead of leadership

    Eh w/e Khalsa will have to save America too।।

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

  148. Singh says:
    @utu

    Completely untrue but your fragile identity needs to believe that so be it।।

    Even if Indians contributed everything to ‘Western Civilization’ if they’re not western, they shouldn’t be there; weak western civic nationalist cuck or just a kike lol।।

  149. @Bliss

    OK…the US Engineering Departments are demographically India and Chinese….these Engineering Departments don’t look demographically Native Born White American-and-or-European….This is my point. I prefer the racial demographic when America was 90 percent Native Born White American.

    Thomm will always come up with an argument to justify the racially genocidal post-1965 Immigration Policy. The Historic Native Born White American Working Class did very well when there were hardly any Hindus…Sihks…Koreans…and Chinese….the highly racialized Democratic Party Voting Bloc…voting them into a violently persecuted racial minority within the borders of America.

  150. Back in 1959…NASA introduced on National TV 12 Alpha Native Born White American Male Astronauts as the cutting edge of Space Exploration. Last week was the anniversary of this event.

    The Chinese “Americans”….Korean “Americans….Pakistani Muslims “Americans” and Hindu “Americans”….will be voting on Nov 3 2020 for Hindu-Jamaican POTUS Kamala Harris to make certain that something like this never never never happens again….

  151. @Singh

    Look, the Indians have a LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE called India…India belongs to the Hindu and the Sihk. India is the land of the mathematical genius Ramanujan and the physics genious Bose.

    God Bless the Hindus and Sihks in India….But they do not belong on Native Born White American LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE=America…for they are a highly racialized hostile South Asian Voting Bloc…

    • Replies: @Singh
  152. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dmitry

    India produced one of the world’s most noble philosophical traditions

    The society which “produced one of the world’s most noble philosophical traditions,” also produced the following abomination

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTDJ-gkD2HC/?hl=en

    The howls of protest that post garnered proves how uncomfortable the hindoos are about advertising core aspects of their faith, which they understand correctly that nobody from outside will comprehend.

    Also, look up the myth of the rape of Tulsi by “lord” Vishnu. How about the worship of Lingam(phallus)/Yoni(vagina)?

    So all this is the result of deep “noble philosophical traditions”? Thank you, but they can keep it.

    Just because a society comes up with head scratching one liners or multi liners, does not mean much. Perhaps they do it to obfuscate their real insecurities and complexes about their spiritualities.

    Sanatan Dharma seems to works on the following principle… If you can’t convince them, confuse them.

    • Replies: @Singh
  153. Singh says:
    @anonymous

    You engage in ritual cannibalism..

  154. Singh says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Don’t disagree but when will America stop interfering in the homes of others?

    You can’t have invade without invite lol

    You want to spread Liberalism & christianity, Japan doesn’t send missionary nor receive immigrant.

    This is a bed of your own making, Idk why you replied to my comment as I’m merely advocating a European Nationalism which goes beyond the material।।

    As long as it’s stuck there, it’s very easy to justify foreigners who do contribute materially like Jews for example. So I’m advocating White nationalism more than you are..

    But it is what it is a lot is wrong in America today & it’ll take a lot to fix it।। & whether you like it or not without fixing America no other country can really be fixed.

    So as much as anyone hates foreigners preaching about or commenting on their country

    1. America has made a literal business of it
    2. America is the Centre of the world today in many respects & the elite of every country americanized to some degree, fixing these problems is a collective effort as the alternative is otherwise known as the most important graph in the world।।

  155. @Bliss

    “Isn’t it strange that these two castes, who are the great majority of Hindus, cling to a religion that demeans them as congenitally inferior?“

    Those that didn’t converted to Islam.

    Interestingly, the Hindus that converted to Christianity (usually indentifiable by their Portuguese surnames) seem to have come from the upper castes.

  156. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bliss

    The following page argues correctly that Sikhism is simply a sub-sect of Hinduism.

    https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hinduism_and_Sikhism

    It just proves what a mentally conflicted people they are… neither here nor there, from their claimed source faiths.

  157. @Singh

    Singh

    I agree with you…I d0n’t like it anymore than you do..

    The Native Born White American Working Class was blindsided by nonwhite legal immigrant labor…

    They now live a few pay checks from the street….lots of debt….and this most definitely works against revolting against the system…..I’m not giving excuses….just context….

    I didn’t mention the Jains in India…so if the Jains feel slighted…God Bless the Jains in India also….

    However…in 2018…it is the Democratic Party Voting Bloc that keeps the war against Christian Russia alive…..POTUS Kamala Harris’s Attorney General Preet Bharara wants war with Christian Russia….

  158. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Singh

    That its fights with Islam has left it exhausted…

    The Hindoo society may be somewhat powerful with its armaments, and so it is said that it has the upper hand against a Muslim society such as Pakistan, but with respect to its polytheist batshit craziness, and its “fight” with the logicality of True Monotheism in general… it is not even a contest.

    So, in the spiritual context… prepare to eat dirt, primitive human/animal/phallus-vagina worshipper.

    should be a warning to you

    The same applies to polytheist palefaces too.
    ;)

    • Replies: @Moi
  159. @Singh

    I certainly agree that the US has made mistakes in foreign policy

    But little inf any has been for the purposes of advancing christianity, in modern era polity. The US has never engaged anything like the foreign policy of japan. You don’t seem to have an accurate picture Japanese colonialism.

    I think trying indict the US for some manner of violence is a hurdle given India’s own history of civil conflict.

  160. Moi says:
    @Bliss

    Assuming that those numbers in the pie chart are correct and only about one-half are Hindoos, what you’re overlooking is that the Hindoos are better educated because they’ve suppressed the non-Hindoo minorities (especially Muslims and Christians–not so much Sikhs who they see as sort of cousins). The economic status of Muslims, who were for centuries the ruling class, is now about the same as the Dalits (the outcastes).

  161. Moi says:
    @anonymous

    Sorry, but Sikhism is not a religion–just an attempt to harmonize the life of Hindoos and Muslims in India. Sikhs have no problem going to Hindoo temples, marrying Hindoo women, and many Sikhs have Hindoo names.

    The question of Guru Nanak actually founded a new religion is much debated by Indian historians. So no BS, please.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  162. @TT

    A lot of pretzel like try hard speculation to support your assumption/wish that the Indian American successes in the US are not due to their ability but other factors. I don’t follow these people too closely, but from what I know at least Sundar Pichai and Indira Nyoogi are Tamil Brahmans. In India Tamil Brahmans are often considered the smartest sub group of Brahmans. Then there is another man who is easily the most accomplished Indian engineer in Silicon valley who no one talks about (especially the Hindu supremacist Indians) – Prof. Paul Arogyaswamy, professor emeritus EE Stanford University – because he is a Tamil Catholic. He is pretty much was the brain behind 3G mobile technology. He is a Kshatriya descendant.

    • Replies: @edgeslider
    , @TT
  163. MarkinLA says:
    @Singh

    everything from advances in mathematics

    Just curious, but what are those advances? Every major civilization has to have some form of mathematics or no technological advancement can take place but what specifically did the rest of the world get from Indian mathematics other than 0 as a placeholder in the numbering system?

    I am sure there was something even the Egyptians did that was well ahead of everybody else in the field of mathematics 4000 years ago but I doubt there is any direct connection between that and its place in current mathematics. In other words, like all great civilizations that collapsed, this accomplishment was lost to time.

    Just asking, not attacking you. I am aware of that self-taught Indian Ramanujan and his story but don’t know of others.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Bliss
  164. @EliteCommInc.

    The Democratic Party threatens Christian Russia with thermonuclear mass murder….on a daily basis. The Democratic Party in 2018 is effectively majority nonwhite-post-1965….Hindus…Sihks..Koreans…Chinese…Pakistani Muslims…are overwhelmingly Democratic Party Voters….

    Trump’s Native Born White American Voting Bloc is very pro-Christian Russia…Trump’s selection of John Bolton notwithstanding….

  165. @Moi

    “just an attempt to harmonize the life of Hindoos and Muslims in India.”

    When said system addresses the existence beyond the corporeal — it’s called religion. And it most cases, need not even include incorporeal existence.

  166. MarkinLA says:
    @TT

    British colonization had reduced India 24% GDP to 4% of world’s,

    This is one of those misleading statistics. During that time Europe and the US were massively industrializing. Probably the same things happened to every agrarian society not involved with industrial production. What was Britain supposed to do, move all they armament factories to India to take advantage of the cheap labor and try to hold onto their empire at the same time?

    • Replies: @Punju
    , @TT
  167. I would really like to see these “black with brains” in America to intermarry with the “blacks without brains” and it may help every one. Oops, there is Kamala Harris. So I may be totally wrong.

  168. Punju says:
    @MarkinLA

    Industrialization had just commenced when British took over India. At the time GDP was probably measured by agricultural output only and hence 24% number seems reasonable for massive Indian population. Since then national GDP has become reflective of level of industrialization.

    Therefore comparing 24% vs. 4% is really not valid.

  169. Saxon says:
    @BigjimSportCamper

    Implying he isn’t an H1B that writes bad code that some unfortunate white or east asian code janitor had to clean up.

    • Replies: @TT
  170. Punju says:

    There is sibling rivalry between Sikhism and Punjabi Hinduism as practiced (i.e., Arya Samaj). They intermarry and in fact many families follow both ‘religions’ simultaneously. Arya Samajis want to cling to the old religion/ways with some cosmetic changes in rituals. Sikhs on the other hand made a serious attempt to change the Hindu outdated beliefs around 16-17th century. Sikhs were admired by Hindus (since they needed protection from Muslims) and they converted in droves before British arrived. As soon Punjab was taken over by British (1849), Hindus shunned Sikhism and preferred new modern approach that was ‘best of both worlds’ – Hindu rituals with their millions of Gods intact AND modern English education that opened their doors to the world in order to make a comfortable living. This approach put no demand on them to make any serious changes to any moral need to treat their overwhelmingly poor masses better.

    Sikhs are deeply conflicted. They are joined at the hip with Hindus and at the same time, they hate Hinduism’s refusal to change rapidly in a meaningful way. Hindu elite on the other hand, do not like Sikhs because they view them as arrogant and unsophisticated bunch that has no patience like other ‘good, peaceful and satisfied’ Hindus. Over time, Sikhs being only 2% in India, will get submerged in the ocean of Hinduism like Buddhism was. IMHO, that will be a very serious loss for Hinduism and India. But if destiny of India is to always remain a 2nd rate culture/power, at least Sikh conscience is clear. They tried.

  171. @War for Blair Mountain

    Laughing . . .

    I am not a democrat, so I cannot speak for them. As a conservative, I can say that currently, there is no reason for the US to go to war with Russia. And that is accurate despite what one thinks of the Russian people.

    I would that whites, blacks, greens or blues who are citizens embrace what’s best for the US, regardless of their views of Russians.

    I think my view of Russians from experience is positive. To date,m I have no evidence that Russia poses an immediate or even near threat to the US. They can operate as along term partner and competitor without advocating hostilities in my view.

    I am not sure it’s clear how many christians support Pres Trump, there is considerable disagreement about who and Pres represents as president and especially as role model. In my view any attempt to make choices based on skin color as opposed to what best for US citizens would be very troublesome.

  172. @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    Good points.
    It is hilarious some of the white guys over here now seem to believe that all their troubles emanate from the darkness of an out-group’s skin and their verbal ability – probably, extrapolating from their traumatizing experience with da blacks and da jews. The anti-Indian hate has suddenly skyrocketed. Also, most pathetically, they think East Asians are their new allies if not blood brothers, as they seem to be lacking in those 2 dangerous attributes and perhaps because they are a source of women to mate with in a time when Western females have effectively left the plantation. Ironically, this when China is busy sharpening its knives and salivating at the prospect of surpassing and humiliating the West.

  173. Truth says:
    @Singh

    They need christ fkn heathens. I mean American white women are raped in the scores by black men everyday. Are we forgetting that?

    Yeah, Sport it appears we are.

    • Agree: Byrresheim
  174. Talha says:
    @MarkinLA

    Wiki provides a fairly comprehensive list including the pre-modern ones:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_mathematicians

    Since it’s not a politically-charged topic, one can probably trust the info.

    Imam Biruni (ra) the medieval polymath of Khwarezm learned a lot from Hindu mathematicians and astronomers and brought that knowledge into the Muslim world.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Anon
  175. Thomm says:
    @edgeslider

    It is hilarious some of the white guys over here now seem to believe that all their troubles emanate from the darkness of an out-group’s skin and their verbal ability –

    I would add that it is important to observe the very high variance found in white quality. The range of brains, looks, talent, and character found among whites is very high. Much higher than in other races.

    Hence, medians and averages are of limited utility when describing whites. Few reside at the average, while many are far above and many are far below that average.

    White women span from perfect 10s of incredible beauty all the way down to fat bluehaired monsters.

    White men range from exceptional all-round supermen down to complete losers on every level. White Trashionalists originate from this bottom rung.

    Observe this high variance closely, and note how the other 80% of whites are extremely keen on keeping this bottom 20% out of respectable society. The bottom 20% comprise of a defective subrace that genetic waste matter collects into (for efficient elimination from the species). The men of this defective subrace become White Trashionalists (and are thus the only group of men on Earth who are completely excluded from reproduction with women of their own race (or any other)), while the women become the bluehaired feminists.

    It is not possible to understand white people without being acutely aware of this high variance.

  176. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    Everything is a politically-charged topic, not that it makes much difference in this case.

  177. TT says:
    @edgeslider

    A lot of pretzel like try hard speculation to support your assumption/wish that the Indian American successes in the US are not due to their ability but other factors.

    Like i said, im speculating on 3 reasons. 1st reason been india has its best brain drain out bcos of unable to keep. Will it better for Pichai to start a Gargle India or do India proud by been Google chief?

    2nd conspiracy theory is highly possible, consider unusual coordinated US effort to prop up India as counter to China rising. Its not too difficult for CIA to put some Indians on prominent posts. Msm has been promoting India lopsided while covering all its shitty deeds.

    Is Huawei 5G, Xioami, ZTC, Lenova, Alibaba, ,… management & engineers less talented? How about Jp talents, Korean Samsung? Why aren’t any of them occupying the top US corp CEO posts?

    Below comment i further defended that several long civilizations & races have proven their capability, incl Northern Indian, that should not be category rule out as stupid genetically. Of course we are still seeing many stupid indians in India doing all sorts of foolish things till this day, but that’s what make India special, a mixture of extremes.

    http://www.unz.com/article/blacks-with-brains-indians-leftists-show-downside-of-merit-based-immigration/#comment-2235011

    In India Tamil Brahmans are often considered the smartest sub group of Brahmans.

    I have no doubt of that. Even the farmers i met up north was surprisingly smart & wise. But India entire corrupted system, ill fitting democracy, caste problem, Hindu elitism, high poverty, dilapidated education, over 40% illiteracy, women discrimination…are simply overwhelming for India to progres.

    Ave IQ81 has its reason. You will need very high IQ elites to prop up the large group of very low one.

  178. @EliteCommInc.

    From a Native Born White American Working Class perspective….the group targeted for demographic race-replacement by the highly racialized nonwhite majority Democratic Party Voting Bloc….Civic Nationalism is CUCKHOLDERY=don’t notice that the majority nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc is enthusiastically voting Whitey into a violently persecuted racial minority within the borders of the US…

    There are only two options for The Native Born White American Working Class:

    1)Alt Right Native Born White American Race Patriotism…

    or

    2)Cuckholdery….

    I wasn’t accusing you of being a Democrat…

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  179. @edgeslider

    Perhaps you have heard of the H-1 B ….L-1 B visa programs?

    Asian “Americans” are scab labor….And it’s the reason why the 1888 Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion was passed…..

    The Hindus and Sihks have their own Living and Breeding Space….And it’s place called India…

    The Chinese have a Living and Breeding Space called China….that’s where they belong…

  180. Thomm says:

    The Hindus and Sihks have their own Living and Breeding Space….And it’s place called India…

    The Chinese have a Living and Breeding Space called China….that’s where they belong…

    What if Native Americans told you that white people have their Living and Breeding Space called Europe, and they should not be in the New World?

    Ah…. now you are stumped.

    But in reality, successful whites are good at keeping the WN wiggers out of polite society, so its all good.

  181. @War for Blair Mountain

    I think by forgetting the (almost complete) infiltration of the Repubs by the same bunch, you are cutting them too much slack.

    Guys like Soros don’t really care if they’ve got an R or a D after their name. As long as they toe their line it’s all ok for them. Quite similar to the way Uncle Sam (more like Uncle Schlomo) don’t really care if an “ally” (more like a lowly client) is a “democracy” or an oligarchy (much like the states) or outright dictatorship. If they give unfettered access to him and his buddies, everything is A-OK!! I think our Izzy firsters have similar thoughts about the US of A. As long as it serves their purpose, suck it dry. Bone dry. After that, the’ll jump ship. Perhaps they are already planning for that as the tired old Uncle sam is getting old of all that killing for Schlomo!

  182. @Singh

    The point is in your use of the word “Putler”.

    That gives away the distasteful game.

  183. TT says:
    @MarkinLA

    What was Britain supposed to do, move all they armament factories to India to take advantage of the cheap labor and try to hold onto their empire at the same time?

    Thks for pointing out what British supposed to do, slave India to the marrow for their empire.

    YouGov found 44 per cent were proud of Britain’s history of colonialism, while 21 per cent regretted it happened. You & many Britons, 22p22 are all the proud one for atrocities.

    Perhaps India should be gratitude to their colonial master for de-industrialization, colluding oligarchs to further control the vast country resources into 1% like US now, destroying their textile with cheap textile, salt tax, split the country, starve millions to death, drafted their men as most royal obedient East India Army to help colonize others with atrocities….long list.

    Without benevolent British, other Europeans might be happy enough to help India industrialize like they did for Japan, or Germans did for China KMT.

    Mahatma Gandhi is spinning in his grave to know Modi has reestablished the colonization with Anglo-US empire collusion. (Mahatma Gandhi’s Salt Satyagraha in 1930)

    To begin with, India was conquered for the Empire not by the English themselves but by Indians under English leadership, and by taking advantage of Indian disputes.

    history is repeating.

    Worst atrocities of British Empire

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a7612176.html?amp

    Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while it was under the control of the British Empire, as millions of tons of wheat were exported to Britain as famine raged in India.

    In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when Winston Churchill diverted food to British soldiers and countries such as Greece while a deadly famine swept through Bengal.

    Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.”

    http://www.academia.edu/9936332/De-industrialization_of_Indian_Economy_during_the_Raj

    When, by Charter Act of 1813, the East India Company’s monopoly of trade between India and England was abolished, British goods, especially cotton textiles, began freely to enter India, and gradually to edge out Indian handicraft products from local markets. By the middle of the 19th century, British exports of manufactures to India had already reached a high level and, with the subsequent construction of railways, grew at accelerated rates. According to early nationalist historians the political pressure of a foreign Government together with the influx of the cheap products of foreign machine industry were the principal causes of the decline of indigenous industries. R. C. Dutt has called the displacement of Indian manufactures by foreign products as “one of the saddest chapters in the history of British India”, for it indicated that “the sources of wealth in India have been narrowed and the livelihood of people had been made more precarious.”
    3
    Karl Marx rightly noted: “The British intruder broke up the Indian handloom and destroyed the spinning loom, and inundated the very mother country of cotton with cottons.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  184. TT says:
    @Saxon

    I had been hearing this sometimes, Indian programmer are writing shit codes screwing up projects. Is that really so blatant?

    I did have one experience, the smooth talking Indian wiggle up to top, and when given important project, he tried BS in his screw up project. After some questioning, i found he make the most fundamental error that no basic engineer should, a digital IC without reset pin( unknown initial state).

    • Replies: @Saxon
  185. @War for Blair Mountain

    My comment has nothing to do with any suggestion that you called me a democrats.

    As for the rest of your comments –

    Nonsense.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-future-of-the-democratic-party-is-white-men/

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/160373/democrats-racially-diverse-republicans-mostly-white.aspx

    http://anepigone.blogspot.co.uk/2008/06/democratic-nomination-voter-totals-by.html

    The primary shifters in democratic politics are white women — ohh there;s a shock, and don’t be fooled by the numbers — nearly all hispanics identify as white and press to be counted as white.

    More on the politics:

    http://www.breitbart.com/2018-elections/2018/02/11/six-ways-gop-trying-lose-amnesty-immigration-fight/

    https://cis.org/Renshon/GOP-and-Immigration

    https://www.npr.org/2018/01/25/580222116/the-gops-evolution-on-immigration

    not until this last election has the GOP been seriously challenged on their lax immigration policy.

    You are incorrect on all points.

  186. TT says:

    Worry not guys, juz found a comment, Indians & Americans are best soulmates, together they will see the wonderful world. We will have more Indians CEO & politicians in power.

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-chinese-in-southern-vietnam/#comment-2197038

    All those trustworthy people with gravitas, Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Mccain,…….
    every murkkan ambassador to India, all came to this concensus….

    murkkans./Indians are mirrored images of each others, they’r made in heaven natural soul mates !

    I see trees of green, red roses too
    I see them bloom for me and you
    And I think to myself, what a wonderful world….

    —Louis Armstrong

    murkkan ambassador to India.,

    ‘In an increasingly frightening and unstable world, there is one nation we know will stand firm and resolute in its commitment to freedom, human rights, democracy and the rule of law. Without the relentless, selfless efforts of the United States, humankind would plunge into a seething cauldron of tyranny, slavery, chaos and endless war. Besides Israel, severely weakened as it is by the constant strain of fending off the barbarian hordes seeking to “wipe it off the map” and Great Britain, incessantly pressured by its Leftist, pacifist neighbors to appease and negotiate, the home of the brave wages its courageous struggle virtually alone.

    But fear not. The time draws nigh when an aspiring superpower will stand firmly alongside the United States in its defense of humankind. India, the world’s largest democracy and a haven for the free market economics of Capitalism, is forging a deep alliance with the United States.

    What a wonderful world it will indeed be when two nations, each of which was forged in the crucible of revolution against the imperial tyranny of Great Britain, can ally themselves to fend off the twin evils of terrorism and Islamofascism and now the twin terrors of Russkies/Chicoms, as they unite to spread democracy and corporate benevolence.

    https://www.countercurrents.org/miller120207.htm

  187. @Thomm

    So Thomm, why not go all the way back to the Babylonian times or perhaps to Monkey man (in case you don’t go by the Bible which, most likely you don’t) and settle disputes. By that logic, the “chosen nation” of Israel, the one with a deathly grip on DC, actually belongs to the Canaanites! or may be not! we need to go even more back! waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back right?

    Mankind’s history has been mostly ugly and brutal and conquest and gore has been as old as humanity itself. Not that I am cheering for it, but virtue signalling like this puts you firmly into the SJW category. No present white man should be virtue signalled for what his ancestors did. Ditto for the turks, the arabs or anyone. At best we must learn from history. That’s as much true for the “left” as it is true for the new “alt right”

    On top of that, pretending to be a “successful white” when you one is probably a “successful Hindoo” makes you that much more cringe-worthy. So please cut that SJW virtue signalling crap.

    • Replies: @edgeslider
    , @SOL
  188. @EliteCommInc.

    The US is either being racially transformed by Nonwhite immigration or it isn’t…Well..it is…

    Nonwhites either vote overwhelming Democratic or they do?…They vote overwhelmingly Democratic…

    About the White Hispanic Democrats:The Cubans transformed Miami and other parts of South Florida into a Spanish speaking foreign area where….Native Born White Americans of the area have become racial foreigners in the area they and their ancestors were born in….

    The Democratic Party Leadership is very open about what they are doing:import the Nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc…including the “White” Hispanics…with the open intent of completely nullifying THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MAJORITY WORKING CLASS VOTE on Nov 3 2020…

    Here is a question that no one ever seems to be able to answer:What percentage of Native Born White American Women..not Hispanic “White” Women….who are eligible to vote……since 1992, actually voted for a Democratic POTUS?

    What happened in California? The obvious answer to this question exposes the complete mendacity of your comments…

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  189. @HogHappenin

    I’m not forgetting…I am well aware of it….I don’t worship Trump…nor do I like him….

  190. Saxon says:
    @TT

    It’s much worse than you think.

    http://www.catchnews.com/business-economy-news/95-of-indian-engineers-do-not-know-basics-of-coding-how-will-indian-it-firms-compete-58330.html

    “According to the report, only 4.77% engineers can write the correct logic for a programme.

    The report is based on an assessment undertaken by over 36,000 engineering students from IT related branches of over 500 colleges took on Automata — a Machine Learning based assessment of software development skills.

    Two thirds of the participants could not even write code that compiles, the study says. Only 1.4% of the participants could write functionally correct code during the assessment.”

    • Replies: @TT
  191. @Thomm

    I don’t care…I only care about the interests of the Racial Demographic Group that I was born into..

    The “GENOCIDE OF THE NATIVE AMERICANS!!!” 1960’s counterculture meme will be quickly flushed down the toilet bowl if and when The Native Born White American Working Class is permanently voted into a white racial minority within the borders of America by the Hindu..Chinese..Korean…Sihk…and Pakistani Muslim…

    And, when this day arrives….the Antifa…GREEDY CHEATING WHITE LIBERALS….GREEDY CHEATING NOAM CHOMSKY…..Libertarians….And Civic Nationalist Cucks…will enthusiastically encourage the Hindus…Sihks…Koreans….Chinese…members of the Israeli IDF…Muslims….to enjoy the full benefits of the European conquest of North America…and the creation of America and Canada……This day has already arrived in California….

    The American Injuns can go f…..k themselves…….

    Mark Twains’ essay THE “NOBLE” AMERICAN INJUN is my favorite essay…

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
    , @Thomm
  192. TT says:
    @Saxon

    I remb 20yrs ago i met a Indian young lady on her way to US Silicon valley to work as Infosys programmer. She told only completed high school & 1mth basic programming lesson by Infosys. Some poor guys’ proj likely get screw by her.

    But her salary was so low at $1200, hardly enough for rental & food…wonder how US could grant visa for such lowly qualified worker.

    Later news came out, many Indians were caught using fake certificates & work experience resume. Someone went over India to investigate & found there are chains of one man shop ready to churn out any certificates & answer potential employers calls to certify their fake resumes.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @Saxon
  193. @War for Blair Mountain

    let’s make sure we ave the issues straight as i know many love to muddy the water and proceed to make arguments from the weeds.

    1. the democratic remains largely white — the are two drivers on the issue of continued identity polics those two drivers are largely white —

    2. it is accurate that most non whites vote as democrats. But that number does not comprise most or even half of the party.

    3. The primary driver of that politics in the party are women, the homosexual community and its variants and the young educated and while 95%+ african americans vote democratic, they are not in droves seeking to replace whites. They are however, contending that color remains an issue in most of American life — as much of the advocacy here on this cite and at TAC confirm, some subtle and others less so.

    4. You get no pushback from me that immigration, especially careless immigration policy is damaging. I think the evidence is overwhelmingly vindicates anyone who has those concerns. I among them.

    5. On the question of immigration, whites have been the most aggressive in supporting immigration of foreigners. And that has been the case historically in both parties. It is now in this election that the nations immigration policies is being challenged in both parties.

    In Ca both Republicans and democrats have catered to the hispanic reasons that most of the country has catered to the same — economics. It has been cheaper to undermine the opportunities of citizens. But that cheap price is but a surface savings, because by nearly every measure immigration costs more than it saves.

    Note: the illegal legal immigrants to the US from South of the border, asia, and europe are counted as whites, it doesn’t take a a foot stool to understand why. nor does it take a 3″ inched raised foot to know why democrats and republicans have been quite willing to embrace that demographic twist.

    The identity game of whiteness has a long and successful history in playing one hand against anoter in manipulating truth.

    It’s akin the tactic of attempting to categorize european jews and Israelis having migrated from Israel as non-whites.

    I think there are plenty of reasons to be concerned with US immigration policy — I absolutely agree. But I prefer we be honest about
    who’s doing what, how and why.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  194. @War for Blair Mountain

    As long as there are no *REAL* conservatives in the government, things are likely to get even worse socially, economically and even politically. The brownies will start running back when Madison starts looking like Chicago starts looking like Detroit starts looking like Baltimore starts looking like Camden.

    America’s birthplace, Philly, is also just a river away from Camden, the US’s eventual graveyard. Isn’t it ironic!! The Izzy firsters know this very well and they’d want to accelerate that even further by sucking whatever little blood remains. Then they will make the “aliyah”.

    Flyover country already looks to be nearing it’s death throes. And these dual citizens all have contingency plans you bet. As long as a significant percentage of average schmucks in smalltown USA do not get serious about this and their cousins in the military stand up to their traitor bosses, nothing absolutely nothing will change. And I think that is our destiny. Which is why I’ve now relocated to eastern Asia (no I don’t have yellow fever but my tech job allowed me that. I’ve got a beautiful wife of Sicilian heritage) but looking at the rising tech scene in Prague or Sofia, I’m thinking about that as well.

    Good luck to you buddy. But I think Juden has a death grip on our collective necks in the western world and with hindoos like Thomm, they have found willing “junior partners” in their greater scheme of things! Sad but true

  195. MarkinLA says:
    @TT

    Thks for pointing out what British supposed to do, slave India to the marrow for their empire.

    That’s what real empires are supposed to do. The US is a stupid empire. As for the rest of your rant, I was only trying to show that sometimes statistics like yours don’t tell the real story.

    • Replies: @TT
  196. @EliteCommInc.

    excuse my errors in grammar — speed at the expense of the tech — I take responsibility for my carelessness.

  197. denk says:
    @TT

    (2) Conspiracy theory:
    US deep state is trying to promote India is Great to counter China by placing Indians as prominent CEO, WH spoken person Raj Khan, UN Nikki…. US has unusual abnormal military alliance with India, FDI, Tech transfer,

    India presumably has many world class talents, , but….are they soooo good that they managed to steamroll over the Wasps, Germans, Jews, Jp, Chinese , Dutch etc etc………wholesale, to monopolise the top jobs in SV, ?

    if it sounds too good to be true it prolly is !

    I do not believe IQ is the only explanation, several other factors contribute to this Indian full spectrum dominion.

    Firstly, Indians are generally very aggressively upwards mobile, very adept at social networking compared to the teutonic Germans, introvert Chinese, Jp ….., so they tend to rise faster up the career ladder.
    Their fluency in English is another advantage.

    Secondly, Indian managers are notorious for their tribalism, once they secured the top position, they tend to hire their own clans to replace the locals.
    Singapore’s social media have been buzzing with outpouring from bitter citizens who were displaced by Indian tsunami.

    Last but not least, the never mentioned geopolitical dimension.

    Ever since the 1962 fukus instigated border war with China,
    India has always been considered the linchpin of fukus encirclement of China.
    That role got a massive boost under Obama’s pivot and now, continues with Trump’s Quad.

    Concurrently, The Washington led west and Jp are fervently collaborating to prop up India’s economy and military.

    Ergo,
    The meteorically rise afforded to Indians in the govn and tech sector is very likely part and parcel of the China containment machinations.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @TT
    , @TT
  198. Thomm says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    I don’t care…I only care about the interests of the Racial Demographic Group that I was born into..

    OK, so don’t complain when others do the same.

    About myself, I care about the NATION I was born into (the United States), which is why I want only skilled immigration, and no unskilled. BUT, there should be no distinction of race, only skill.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  199. @denk

    Uncharacteristically, the occupation of India by Great Britain comprised something that existed in no other colonial portion of its empire. They left a legacy of the population well educated in politics and western ethos and social practice. That contributes as much as anything to India’s current relations with the west. In addition, the intense class system that existed in nearly every aspect of Indian life played a major role in creating a step system out of it via assimilating themselves into the Empire. And this: the population of India made it impossible to have large swaths of the population not to become equated with western exchange, from Alexander to Churchill, such concentrated numbers would have to assimilate for the good of the empire itself.

    The vast continent of Africa did not force such that dynamic among blacks and whites. further, Several eurpeans states operated the continent of Africa each practicing a different ethos as to colonial practice and few if any forced to incorporate the black population spread throughout — despite the large populations.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @Saxon
    , @denk
  200. @EliteCommInc.

    India’s population — 1.5 billion

    African continent population — 1 billion covering a land mass of nearly 13 nations/including India

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2445615/True-size-Africa-continent-big-China-India-US-Europe-together.html

    India has impact by sheer concentration or people impacted by everything western.

  201. TT says:
    @MarkinLA

    Thks. I do understand that, its juz a quote from a reliable source to back up my analysis, which is more acceptable to most readers. Sorry for the rant if i misquoted you, its not directed to you in anyway but merely to share what i had read.

  202. TT says:
    @denk

    You read my mind. But i avoid so outright blant otherwise some unhappy ones complaint im lying & make personal attacks, when all i wanted is to share my decades of observation. So i gave 3 options, the wise one know which is correct.

    Many don’t differentiate between opinion sharing, truth with facts & propaganda lies when blinded by their own race supremacy.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @edgeslider
  203. TT says:
    @denk

    Btw, do you still has the long list of big corporate sunk by Indian leadership you last commented? I tried to search, seem like it has gotten a good scrubbed, only good news for benevolent superpower India & smart Indians appear now.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    , @denk
  204. @TT

    Chinese guanxi suggests that if you vouch for someone, you also share in the shame of their failure and you lose face for it(and of course, historical collective punishment probably had something to do with this). Similarly, in Japan, a senpai is judged if his kouhai is failing or becomes a criminal.

    Indian nepotism has no equivalent as far as I can tell. As a result, even quality workers often bring about individuals who are not qualified; this is much worsened in any work that is offshored to India.

    • Replies: @TT
  205. The high context nature of Indian culture places — family as point of shame as case for reward and punishment.

    family honor

  206. @Thomm

    I think the article makes a fair case against immigrants period and that skills, intelligence, or diligent workers are not benefiting the US on the whole as their cultural backgrounds lead them to the same place — limiting what it means to be a US citizen.

    The US does not need immigrant 1 for any reason.

  207. Bliss says:

    I thought it was funny how Trump was deliberately annoying the Chinese when on his visit to Asia he kept talking about the “Indo-Pacific Region”.

    Btw, there is nothing new in geo-politics about using the weaker power(s) to contain the biggest potential adversary. That is why China has long used Pakistan to contain India And that is why America is using India and Japan to contain China.

  208. Saxon says:
    @TT

    Yes, of course. Certifications and even just schools in most countries you’d call third world countries are not at all reliably equivalent. It gets worse, though, because the medical industries in countries like Canada, Britain, and other countries with socialized medicine are being staffed by increasing numbers of these people with no idea how many are completely incompetent.

    • Replies: @TT
  209. Saxon says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    A large part of that is that sub-Saharan Africans really are that dumb. You can’t really teach them much. The Chinese are finding that out now, too; Go watch the “Empire of Dust” documentary where the now-popular internet meme of “it’s all so tiresome” originates.

  210. @Saxon

    I might watch that video. I would grant that some people are smarter than others with some very serious caveats. to test smarts, requires a model that closes a an environment of a common group, with a common understanding to a common goal against common experience.

    I have considered smartness in the context of need to know. If have no need to know a thing, then that shapes my learning of it. If come to into my environment introducing an entirely new set of concepts that I never needed to consider, then learning them is going to require a change in my environmental comprehension of need to know. i have no idea how long it takes someone to make that shift. I assume it varies.

    Sure so and so doesn’t get it. They have no frame by which to conceptualize the need to know it.

    If I dropped Einstein in the Congo. I have little doubt that he simply wouldn’t get a lot of very unique particulars required to live in said environment — because in his entire life he simply never had to conceptualize a need to know that particular thing. I am positive that any number of Congolese would look at the “genius” who conceptualized relativity and even consider him a moron. And in teaching him the fineries of living in said environment no small number wouldn’t be frustrated with his lack of conceptualizing the need to do this or that — and subsequently conclude the man is just an “idiot”.

    Not only would a subsaharn person not be familiar from the expected norms required to engage in learning from the Chinese objectives or anyone else’s outside their frame, it’s a safe bet that they would have been barred or discouraged from doing so. I spent a lot of years engaged in training city kids the joys and skills of camping: orienteering, knowing safe from dangerous plants, starting a fire . . . and they are idiots — I jest. No they just had to take time to re-frame their need to know.

    Ask any drill sergeant, about the general intelligence of his or her new recruits

    “They’re idiots to a one.”

    • Replies: @Talha
  211. TT says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Agreed. We rather paid recruiter commission to employees who recommend new staff. Generally Chinese are cautious as their assume guarantor duty.

    But that can’t be said for Malaysia & Indonesia chinese working in overseas. They simply bring in whole horde of idiot kins to convert a company into their paradise/hell. Caucasian CEO is obviously doing that in Asian company, they come & go with their imbecile team. Indians, its enough say, employed at own perils.

    Fortunately my experience with Indian friends are good, so don’t give up hope, there are always gems within dirts. British colonial has make great civilization India into shithole, but Malla won’t agree.

  212. TT says:
    @Saxon

    The US, Canada & Oz medical boards are very sick, they seem to permit unqualified Indians Dr to practise, there are horrible cases reported in Oz. Even Dr get disqualified for murderous unethical practice elsewhere were allowed to resume practice there.

    Once a Asian neurosurgeon was sued in highly publicized case for carrying out unnecessary brain surgeries for fees purpose, leading to the suffering death of a patient. He admitted readily but laughed it off when judge handed down fine(covered by insurance) & strike off his license forever, boasting to reporters that he had already migrated to Canada to continue his practice. No jail term. That’s real disgusting how medical dr is protected.

    • Replies: @TT
  213. @Saxon

    i am unclear by what you mean on the memes.

  214. Talha says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Excellent comment!

    Peace.

  215. DB Cooper says:
    @TT

    You are talking about this one?

    Companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor

    Adaptec – Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
    AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
    AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
    Apple – R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
    Australia’s National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
    Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
    Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
    Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
    Caymas – Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
    Caterpillar misses earnings a mere 4 months after outsourcing to India, Inc.
    Circuit City – Outsourced all IT to Indian-run IBM and went bankrupt shortly thereafter.
    ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
    Computer Associates – Former CEO Sanjay Kumar, an Indian national, sentenced to 12 years in federal prison for accounting fraud.
    Deloitte – 2010 – this Indian-packed consulting company is being sued under RICO fraud charges by Marin Country, California for a failed solution.
    Dell – call center (closed in India)
    Delta call centers (closed in India)
    Fannie Mae – Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty and sent to prison.
    GM – Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
    HP – Got out of the PC hardware business in 2011 and can’t compete with Apple’s tablets. HP was taken over by Indians and Chinese in 2001. So much for ‘Asian’ talent!
    HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
    Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
    JetStar Airways computer failure brings down Christchurch airport on 9/17/11. JetStar is owned by Quantas – which is know to have outsourced to India, Inc.
    Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
    Medicare – Defrauded by Indian national doctor Arun Sharma & wife in the U.S.
    Microsoft – Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it’s lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
    MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
    MyNines – A startup founded and run by Indian national Apar Kothari went belly up after throwing millions of America’s VC $ down the drain.
    PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
    PepsiCo – Slides from #1 to #3 during Indian CEO Indra Nooyi’ watch.
    Polycom – Former senior executive Sunil Bhalla charged with insider trading.
    Qantas – See AirBus above
    Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
    Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
    SAP – Same as Deloitte above in 2010.
    Singapore airlines (IT functions taken over in 2009 by TCS, website trashed in August, 2011)
    Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
    State of Indiana $867 million FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
    State of Texas failed IBM project.
    Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, had to be sold off to Oracle).
    UK’s NHS outsourced numerous jobs including health records to India in mid-2000 resulting in $26 billion over budget.
    Union Bank of California – Cancelled Finacle project run by India’s InfoSys in 2011.
    United – call center (closed in India)
    Victorian Order of Nurses, Canada (Payroll system screwed up by SAP/IBM in mid-2011)
    Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
    World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).

    • Replies: @denk
    , @TT
    , @Thomm
  216. denk says:
    @TT

    Sorry for the late reply,
    I went for my rendezvous with Zhou Gong after that post….

    Pitchai has done a wonderful job in scrubbing the web, but here’s one still available in Unz,…..

    http://www.unz.com/article/fight-daca-but-dont-forget-to-fight-h-1b-visa-program-too/#comment-2013492

    • Replies: @TT
  217. denk says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    There’s another factor, Indians are readily accepted into whiteys domain cuz they’r considered a caucasian tribe.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  218. denk says:
    @DB Cooper

    you beat me to it, by a sec.

    hehehehe

  219. TT says:
    @DB Cooper

    That’s right, thks. All these info just dissappear recently when i google or using other search tools. Pichai & CIA have better scrubber than China, heard that Youtube get scrub too.

    Result speak better than tons of words. Im dead worry for Spore that is completely stacked with crooked sweet talking Indians everywhere from cabinets to SOE, probably under US move to put a Indian island at China’s throat in Malacca Straits.

    Singapore Chinese, get ready to flee… hehehehe…..Malaysia Chinese too after you foolish elected wahabi opposition supported by CIA, and poor Indonesia Chinese with another CIA brewing anti-Chinese riots awaiting…Saudi wahabhism is CIA most potent geopolitical killer weapon.

  220. TT says:
    @denk

    You are best friend of Zhou Gong huh. Thks, it seem many have already discussed over Indians in that column.

  221. Thomm says:
    @DB Cooper

    Dell – call center (closed in India)
    Delta call centers (closed in India)
    Caterpillar misses earnings a mere 4 months after outsourcing to India, Inc.
    State of Texas failed IBM project.
    GM – Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
    MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)

    THESE are your examples??

    Even if the CEO of a company on this list was white?

    Even if GM is a $200B revenue company and did a $300M outsourcing deal with Wipro, yet Wipro is the reason for its bankruptcy? (I suspect a WN wigger like DB Cooper does not know the difference between ‘billion’ and ‘million’.)

    Jesus Christ, you WN wiggers are even dumber than I thought. It is hard to parody this level of retarded dumbshittitude.

    The correct way a person of functional intelligence would judge the performance of Indian CEOs is to see the stock price of a large company after the Indian CEO ascends to the post. PepsiCo, Microsoft, MasterCard, and Google are four examples. A quick check shows that all four have seen their stock price rise during the tenure of the Indian CEO, even against the broader market index.

    Again, stock price during the CEOs tenure is the metric, not something like ‘the white CEO set up a call center in India and shut it down five years later’ that a WN wigger thinks is a valid point.

    I would post the graphs, but since WN wiggers like DB Cooper are famously unable to read graphs and charts, the effort would be wasted here.

    Man, just when I think WN wiggers can’t get any more laughably dumb, they outdo themselves. This is even before we start mocking WNs for their homosexuality (which is even greater evidence that WNs is where genetic waste matter of our white race collects).

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Escher
    , @MarkinLA
  222. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    Omg, you going to paste that same old unqualified “Indians say Indians is greatest earners chart” again? Show prove.

    Everytime we touch on Indians, your nerve snap blaming WN. But nothing about whites or others ever bother you.

    Why don’t you simply speak as Indian so we can hear your side of story instead of wiggling like worms?

    Besides, is there such word wigger?

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
    , @HogHappenin
  223. TT says:
    @TT

    Fake programmers screwed up projects still have remedies, but not on our body. They are mutilating everywhere…

    Indian fake doctor worked in NSW system for 11 years

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/health/indian-fake-doctor-worked-in-nsw-system-for-11-years/news-story/68d6b40a4aef1d5faae774133c79c64f

    Dr Death

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayant_Patel

    Fake degree & Dr in India- 45% no formal training, 700,000 unqualified out of all 840,000 doctors. Is Reuters smearing India or under reporting?

    “The market has been flooded with doctors so poorly trained they are little better than quacks.”

    Sujatha Rao, former Indian health secretary

    FAKE DEGREES.

    About 45 percent of the people in India who practice medicine have no formal training, according to the Indian Medical Association. These 700,000 unqualified doctors have been found practicing at some of India’s biggest hospitals, giving diagnoses, prescribing medicines and even conducting surgery. ….

    India currently has about 840,000 doctors – or about seven physicians for every 10,000 people.

    Dr. Nareshkumar S. Dhaniwala, who served as the principal of the college between 2011 and 2013, said “there is some truth in the letter.” Animals, such as pigs and cows, do roam the campus, teachers and students don’t turn up for lessons, and there is a scarcity of running water in the dormitories, he said. And before he joined, he said, he heard students had to pay to pass final exams.

    Balwant Rai Arora, a Delhi resident in his 90s, said in an interview that he issued more than 50,000 fake medical degrees from his home until his forgery ring was broken up by the police in 2011. Each buyer paid about $100 for a degree from fictitious colleges. Arora was twice convicted and jailed for forgery.

    “There is a shortage of doctors in India. I am just helping people with some medical experience get jobs,’’ said Arora. “I haven’t done anything wrong.”

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/india-medicine-education/

  224. Escher says:
    @Thomm

    I suspect a WN wigger like DB Cooper does not know the difference between ‘billion’ and ‘million’.

    DB Cooper is a homo orientalis (aka Chinaman).

    • Replies: @Thomm
  225. @Anon

    Man we had a near flame war going some time back, about how Harvard discriminates against Asian Americans and as expected, Asian Indians figured a lot in the comments. The thread count went off the charts and this here ‘Thomm’ was all over the damn place.

    Lookie here and have fun :D !

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/#comments

  226. @Anon

    By the way, here’s what Mr. Unz himself had to say about “Thomm” here :D :

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/#comment-2112102

    • Replies: @Thomm
  227. Thomm says:
    @Escher

    DB Cooper is a homo orientalis (aka Chinaman).

    Wow. Then his behavior is even weirder, considering how the WN wiggers will never accept him, no matter how much he sucks up to them.

  228. Thomm says:
    @HogHappenin

    And?

    Ron Unz and I are on the same side, since he is playing superb 4D chess to destroy White Trashionalists (make them use his site and become dependent on it, then normalize Hispanics including illegal immigrant Hispanics, then deploy Fred Reed to confuse WNs even more, etc.).

    I am quite happy to play along. The joke is on you, faggot.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • LOL: Truth
    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  229. denk says:
    @TT

    i avoid so outright blant otherwise some unhappy ones complaint im lying

    Trouble is……

    What happens if someone has been fed cow dungs since birth, they’d vomit if you give them honey ?

    At first I thought rednecks are basically decent fellas, misled by their dear leaders and presstitudes, all we need is to tell them the truth and they’ll turn over a new leaf. !

    Fat chance !

    In this thread, the murkkans soul mates fed them grade A cow dungs,

    ‘Chinese hand behind Nepal coup’

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1336484/posts?q=1&;page=41

    WTF !

    I told them what really happens.
    from the horse mouth….

    ‘The main characteristic of the relations between Nepal and China is that we have no bilateral problems at all. Nepal has two imminent neighbours and we have countless problems with our neighbour in the South and not a single problem with our neighbour in the North.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20071019093308/http://peoplesreview.com.np/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3325&Itemid=94

    ‘Nepal’s geopolitical situation is different from Sri Lanka’s. While Sri Lanka does not have an immediate neighbor other than India, Nepal does have a neighbor in China, which has to safeguard its own security interests, mainly in Tibet. Those who have seen New Delhi sending troops to Sri Lanka in 1980s to rescue Tamils involved in a separatist movement do not believe that India would repeat that exercise in Nepal. ‘

    [meaning if not for China's presence, India would've mounted military intervention into Nepal like what it did to Sri Lanka...]

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HJ24Df01.html

    Guess what ?

    This is how they repaid my kindness,

    Comment #61 Removed by Moderator
    Comment #62 Removed by Moderator
    To: jt2005

    Goodbye little Tiennamen Square-headed butcher puppet.

    Little chow lan chow!

    Aren’t there some innocents somewhere for you to ‘execute’ today?

    and thank their soul mates for feeding them cow dungs ….

    ‘Thanks for enlightening me. I learn something new everyday. ‘

    ROFLMAO !

    Mind you,
    Gawd helps those who help themselves,

    murikka is fucked !

    hhehehe

    • Replies: @TT
  230. @Thomm

    Ah you mean like Trump? The way he plays that damn 4D game, he’s putting even the hasbarats to shame innit’ matey?? ;) ;). That’s what the ‘wiggers’ (your fav term by the way) use to defend trump when he does something foolish and caves in to the ever present “lobby” on the hill.

    Secondly, most folks hare are smart enough to call the bluff on Reed and Sailer by the way (ever read the comments sections to their recent pieces??) Reed got completely owned on his “future of the Jews’ thread.

    As for Sailer, he has himself made it quite clear (although in PC terms) that when it comes to even justified criticism of zionist Jews (be they leftist Jews favoring more and more immigration to the west or their brethren on the fake right, the “neocons” who call for more American blood and money to destroy Israel’s enemies), he is quite a quisling and tries to tread a very fine line as otherwise his career can go kaput. So he rants and raves about the symptoms, but never tries to touch the disease lest they rock his boat.

    So no, the jokes on you, “Faggot”. By the way, regarding faggotry, I wish we do a Kadrov on the fags here! As for you, may be you shill for more inter-sexual and intra-sexual “diversity” too I guess, don’t ya “Thomm”?? And if they happen to be Indian fags, then all the better!! I heard they recently allowed fags to fool around in New Delhi? Isn’t that nice?? ;)

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @SOL
  231. @Anon

    Indians are not too socially conscious, especially the high caste ones partly because, the Hindoo religion and hence Indian culture is a highly reactionary culture. India after all came up with the most hard nosed HBD caste system and the karma/re-birth metaphysics to explain away inequality by essentially blaming the victims for their sins in their past, i.e. past life!

  232. @Anon

    I hear the really whupped the great warrior Sikh asses when they went over to Sri-Lanka in that ill fated Indian intervention.

  233. @Twinkie

    That is even true in places like India. Indian Christians in spite of being persecuted, still serve at higher rates in the Indian military than the so called elite castes like the Brahmans. Brahmans as a group in India have a reputation of cowardice and physical weakness. I guess it the service oriented world view of Christianity.

  234. @TT

    Hey Ping Pong, if you are representative of East Asian (Chinese?) high IQ, then we will have to find out what dysgenic effects have accumulated in your kind’s genome in order to explain why you are as dumb as you seem to be from your ridiculous comments here.

    • Replies: @TT
    , @Daniel Chieh
  235. An interesting manifestation of immigrant brainpower can be found in the Regeneron (formerly Intel and before that Westinghouse) Science Talent Search among HS Seniors. Of the 300 top entrants in this years competition (and last years also) more than 180 had unmistakably South Asian or Northeast Asian names. This year, of the top 10 winners, 8 had unmistakably South Asian or Northeast Asian names. This says something but I’m not sure what.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  236. @HogHappenin

    The West, in this century, is perhaps the first and only civilization in the history of the World to, at the height of its pre-eminence (perhaps because of it), voluntarily bend over backwards, to make amends for its perceived “sins of success” of its past. A very Christian thing to do, naturally. This effort, now secularized, has snowballed out of control and has been hijacked by leftists (da Jews and cuck Whites), historically aggrieved minorities (da blacks), opportunistic elite immigrants (Hindoos and Chinese) and we have today’s untenable situation.

  237. Thomm says:
    @HogHappenin

    Your comment isn’t even coherent. Well, White Trashionalists do have Negro IQs, so that explains it.

    But yes, you are a buttfuckaroni. A sphincter sargeant. Many have noticed the high incidence of homosexuality among WNs. Jack Donovan has described why this is, and the HBD explanation is solid as well (which is why successful whites like me make sure you are exiled from polite society).

    Since you think even Steve Sailer is ‘not anti-Semitic enough’, no wonder you are so constipated.

    Get off my lawn, faggot!

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  238. Thomm says:
    @Anita Patel

    Here are the 40 finalists :

    https://student.societyforscience.org/regeneron-sts-2018-finalists

    No blacks. No Hispanics. Many of the whites appear to be Jews.

    But two-thirds are Indian or Chinese.

    Ironically, even as there is zero affirmative action by race, there appears to be a ton by gender, as I am certain that the 14 girls will not manage STEM accomplishments over their careers that remotely match those of the 26 boys. On pure merit, I expect 3-4 girls out of the 40.

  239. @Thomm

    We get it Thomm. You reside in a mom and pops motel that constantly smells like curry.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  240. Yes, if you find more than 20% females in a rather high end (MIT, Google levels but lesser than Field’s medals or Nobel prize level ) very math and engineering oriented arena, it is highly suspect.

    This could also explain to some degree at least, the lack of young goyim. Perhaps there is a de-motivating perception among impressionable young white boys that these competitions are “PC converged” and so not fair or that they have been “taken over” by thirsty immigrant groups? Perhaps there is an element of discouragement and disillusionment afflicting young white boys, who are being constantly bombarded with messages claiming their uselessness and irrelevance, while simultaneously exalting these “magic” minorities?

    • Replies: @Thomm
  241. Thomm says:
    @You don't say

    Nope. I just want the full eradication of White Trashionalists, which is what nature wants anyway (they are the waste matter that the rest of us whites want to expel from the race). The fact that you are homosexual helps, but it is not fast enough.

    I don’t even like Indians that much, but the degree to which they irk the WN losers makes them useful. Edgeslider’s Comment #177 nails it.

  242. Thomm says:
    @edgeslider

    There is certainly discouragement of boys (misandry is the biggest problem in society today). But that affects boys from all races.

    If there was any racial affirmative action at all, there would be at least a token black kid (even if the child of Nigerian skilled immigrant PhDs).

    There is a very clear gender-AA to boost girls, but no racial AA in this selection of the 40 Finalists.

    Since race nationalism and feminism have extremely high overlap, WNs are part of the problem. WN is a goddess cult, as countless other whites have pointed out.

  243. TT says:
    @edgeslider

    Butt hurts to be exposed of your trick huh, ex-Indian? What other reason do you profess other than what denk & i had pointed out?

    While Im only an average not representing the high IQ East Asian, but by any means is still better than your birth place kins you so despised to abandon & try erase your identity by sneaking into US. Once an Indian, forever an Indian, why want pretend to be white?

  244. TT says:
    @denk

    The 2 soulmates are feeding each other good cow dungs they find yummy.

    You shouldn’t read too much Indian news sites either, its contagious. They are mean to brainwash their own people into false ego by distorting facts & history, not a healthy sign for a nation aspire to rise.

    Cow dung diet is not new in India, they have cow asceticism, dog asceticism, naked asceticism, fire worshiping, not letting hand down, squatting, standing on one leg, hair pulling,… long list of spiritual asceticism that make Incredible India slogan truly interesting. That’s why i like visiting India for its cultural richness still preserve to this day.

    • Replies: @denk
  245. SOL says:
    @HogHappenin

    “Dear fellow white people”

  246. SOL says:
    @HogHappenin

    People should just ignore Thomm then.

  247. Bliss says:
    @MarkinLA

    what specifically did the rest of the world get from Indian mathematics other than 0 as a placeholder in the numbering system?

    The decimal numeral system, which became the universal numeral system. Plus:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_mathematics

    But the greatest Indian contribution to mankind is cracking the secret of our very existence: the world of matter-energy is an illusion (Maya).

    I am sure there was something even the Egyptians did that was well ahead of everybody else in the field of mathematics 4000 years ago but I doubt there is any direct connection between that and its place in current mathematics.

    Geometry.

    Mathematics, writing, the rule of law, organized religion and most every foundation on which civilization is based originated in the three earliest civilizations: in Egypt, Iraq (Sumer) and India.

  248. Bliss says:
    @Singh

    A blacksmith tribe in one state can be Warriors in another So..

    That is absurd. In the hindu caste system your caste doesn’t change by moving to another part of the country.

    There is no test or achievement to determine caste, it is determined entirely by birth. The system is not a meritocracy which is why it is such a failure.

  249. denk says:
    @TT

    You shouldn’t read too much Indian news sites either

    freerepublic is a redneck joint.

    Why go there ?
    I figured that squatting on ICH, Antiwar.com etc was like playing to the choir, if you really wanna effect changes you gotta go right into the lions dens and stick it to them.

    But what’s a man to do if the murkkans would rather wallow in their own dungs ?

    ‘Goodbye little Tiennamen Square-headed butcher puppet.

    Little chow lan chow!

    Aren’t there some innocents somewhere for you to ‘execute’ today?

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1336484/posts

    Its that TAM ‘massacre’ canard again, the dumb fucks couldnt even spell it correctly. !
    But then what do you expect from those who learn geography by the countries they are currently bombing ?
    Mind you, they actually voted to bomb a fictional country ‘Agrabah’ !

    hehhehehe

    Who’r the real butchers over the skies of Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Apak ….anyway ???

    Leave them to stew in their cesspool ?
    Only trouble is they are gonna bring everybody with them when they sink !

    • Replies: @TT
  250. denk says:

    fukus is master of color politics,

    Black vs Yellow, Black vs Whites, Blacks [Indians] vs Yellow,
    Yellows [Jp] vs Yellows, Whites vs Whites, Black vs Blacks……

    uncle sham has got it down to an exact science by now.

    Hence,
    An Indian ambassador to India,
    A Chink ambassador to China.
    But the similarity ends here.

    Richard Verma was sent to India to do networking, to win hearts and minds.

    https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/ambassador-to-india-richard-verma-interacting-with-students-of-museum-picture-id534273244

    Gary Locke was in China as agent provocateur.
    cuz the Wasp/Zio/Indian ruling class in murikka enjoy watching
    a chink on chink circus.

    During his term, Locke was Instructed to stir up shit in Tibet, Xinjiang and promote underground xtianity. He incurred so much wrath in China, rumor had it that he had to down a couple of stiff ones at night before he could sleep.
    No wonder he resigned from the post after only one term, before he’s struck down by nervous breakdown. !

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-locke/u-s-ambassador-to-china-gary-locke-to-step-down-idUSBRE9AJ07020131120

    hehehe

  251. TT says:
    @denk

    You are truth Crusader going around the world to debunk propaganda & save zombie drones from msm brainwash…hehehehe

    What its that? Little chow lan chow!
    Hokkien word for smelly barrel?

    Geography knowledge, its a joke in West. When i visited UK, i asked the tourist info counter about direction. She asked where i come from. She said wow, very nice country. You know where is it? I asked. No, im specialized in Geography, but only studied on my home state Snowdonia….she don’t even know anything outside her home town…only those travel much for biz bother to look up a map.

    That’s why Putin said, how am i gonna negotiate with some one who can’t differentiate Austria vs Australia(Trumps). And Bush never even travel out of US until he got elected. But they said ok bomb Syria, huh where is it? North Korea, is it in Africa? That is US Potus who decide the world fate.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Anon
  252. denk says:
    @TT

    What its that? Little chow lan chow!
    Hokkien word for smelly barrel?

    Thats right,
    They dont know shit about geography but they sure can bitch in any dialect !

    hehehhe

    P.S.
    Ron has implemented a time lapse bet posts, :-(

    • Replies: @TT
  253. MarkinLA says:
    @Thomm

    Again, stock price during the CEOs tenure is the metric,

    No it’s not, only an idiot thinks the stock price is that important. Maybe you forgot about the dot com bubble already. Far more important is revenue growth (minus BS like acquisitions) and market share just to name a few.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  254. Thomm says:
    @MarkinLA

    Far more important is revenue growth (minus BS like acquisitions) and market share just to name a few.

    On that metric, those companies did well under the Indian CEOs too. I notice you didn’t prove that any of the four examples I cited did badly.

    But in a forum like this, stock price suffices IN RELATION TO THE INDEX (which is what I pointed out, but you failed to understand).

    As usual, you have not actually rebutted anything. Plus demonstrate that you certainly have no direct experience in the stock market (otherwise you would have understood the concept of performance relative to the S&P500).

    But then again, you have a Negro IQ, so I don’t expect intelligence from you, nor have you actually possessed money in your broke-ass life, as your ignorant comment demonstrates.

    Get off my lawn, faggot!

    Heh heh heh heh

  255. @Thomm

    It is well-known to Unz.com readers that Asians (Chinese, Indians, etc.) do NOT get affirmative action in Ivy League admissions, corporate jobs, etc. Everyone from Derbyshire to Sailer has confirmed this :

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/

    The UNZ article you posted says nothing about corporate Affirmative Action for Asians, which is in fact a reality.

    The same UNZ article says nothing about Affirmative Action for Asians in federal government job hiring and promotion, which is very real too.

    Your claims are fake, as usual.

    You have no idea whatsoever how many Indians or Asians have taken advantage of federal 8a set-aside contract entitlements for diversity schemers like you.

    In my hometown alone there are hundreds of Indians and Asians who come here yearly to take advantage of diversity entitlements like federal 8a contracts. For example a Indian immigrant built a large private hospital here using ill-gotten monies he gained from leveraging federal 8a contracts. The same Indian is also a millionaire due to 8a contract set-asides. Indians schemers help their Indian relatives to join in the federal 8a contract trough feeding too.

    Diversity scheme promoting nationalist like you are Diversity Trash-Nationalist and seditious anti-constitution traitors.

    Let us not forget some other Asian diversity scheme advantages:

    1. Preferential US immigration, citizenship, and asylum policies for Asian people
    2. Federal 8a set-aside government contracts for Asian owned businesses
    3. Affirmative Action for Asians especially toward obtaining government jobs and job promotions
    4. Federal Government anti-discrimination laws for Asians
    4. Federal Government hate speech crime prosecutions in defense of Asians
    5. Sanctuary cities for illegal immigrant Asians, and other protected class groups of diversity
    6. Asian espionage directed at the US is very common, and many times goes unprosecuted
    7. American trade policy allows mass importation of cheap Asian products built with slave labor
    8. Fishing and whaling allowance for some Asian ethnic groups
    9. Most H1-B visas awarded to Asians

    • Replies: @Thomm
  256. Thomm says:
    @Joe Franklin

    The UNZ article you posted says nothing about corporate Affirmative Action for Asians, which is in fact a reality.

    There is certainly no corporate affirmative action for Asians. That mirrors the University policy.

    Similarly, while Section 8A should be abolished (so as to remove that imperfection from the story of success), I doubt many Asians used it, or that it made any significant difference in their success. They would have succeeded all the same without it. See the 40 finalists in the outstanding High School STEM contest in Comment #243. That is obviously not due to affirmative action.

    Your other points don’t have to do with affirmative action, and are not specific to Asians (only a moron would claim that the fact H1-Bs are Asians means they are SPECIFICALLY designed for Asians). I have said countless times that H1-B should be abolished (but for other reasons than yours).

  257. TT says:
    @denk

    That freerepublic link is a shitty crap from a Indian selling snake oils for BJP election. Why did you visit such crap?

    If you can’t resist the urge to chat with Indians, its better to talk to Malla, Singh or Thomm or anyone here, they make much better sense…Btw, how did these Indians or Caucasian know Hokkien vulgar swearing.. LOL.

    Thomm relentless promoting of bringing in more Indians must have snapped all whitish nerves…, but US has to show its sincerity to soulmate by action… what a wonderful world… hehehehe

    I see trees of green, red roses too. I see them bloom for me and you
    And I think to myself, what a wonderful world….

    —Louis Armstrong

    murkkan ambassador to India.,

    Btw, look like US is getting India best brains, Asia is getting leftover sewage from Southern, so violent drunkards rioting in Singapore Little India.

    Its time US welcome their soulmate with open arms, in millions & spare that little Island.

    Below is Modi words?

    ‘In an increasingly frightening and unstable world, there is one nation we know will stand firm and resolute in its commitment to freedom, human rights, democracy and the rule of law. …

    But fear not. The time draws nigh when an aspiring superpower will stand firmly alongside the United States in its defense of humankind. India, the world’s largest democracy and a haven for the free market economics of Capitalism, is forging a deep alliance with the United States.

    • Replies: @denk
  258. TT says:
    @conatus

    (1) There is a rebuttable presumption that the following individuals are socially disadvantaged: Black Americans; Hispanic Americans; Native Americans (Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, or enrolled members of a Federally or State recognized Indian Tribe); Asian Pacific Americans (persons with origins from Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, Japan, China (including Hong Kong), Taiwan, Laos, Cambodia (Kampuchea), Vietnam, Korea,

    Lol. How could Singapore, Japan, HK, Taiwan, Korea be socially disadvantage?…Even Malaysia, Brunei, Thailand are middle in world standard.

    US is really kind & generous country. No wonder whole world talents flock there, like moth & fire.

  259. TT says:

    Although ancient China was very advanced in science, mathematics, astrology, etc. much of it probably was influenced by India. India Buddhism in 2546BC was the apex of its entire civilization & spiritual development that influenced China most.

    It was a pity India had declined much after British colonization. India is a natural partner of China & Pak with 3B people to joint develop a peaceful prosperous Asia. But British had divided them with border issues. India is lagging China by miles now.

    With its best brains continue draining to West, we are seeing extreme, a small echelon of very successful educated smart Indians (in West), to a large mass of foolish cheaters & rapists (in India) that are spreading everywhere becoming a menacing nuisance (even to overseas Indians)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_astronomy

    Indian influence
    Indian astronomy reached China with the expansion of Buddhism during the Later Han (25–220 CE). [5] Further translation of Indian works on astronomy was completed in China by the Three Kingdoms era (220–265 CE). [5]

    However, the most detailed incorporation of Indian astronomy occurred only during the Tang Dynasty (618–907 CE) when a number of Chinese scholars—such as Yi Xing — were versed both in Indian and Chinese astronomy. [5]

    A system of Indian astronomy was recorded in China as Jiuzhi-li (718 CE), the author of which was an Indian by the name of Qutan Xida —a translation of Devanagari Gotama Siddha—the director of the Tang dynasty’s national astronomical observatory. [5]

    During the 8th century, the astronomical table of sines by the Indian astronomer and mathematician , Aryabhatta (476-550), were translated into the Chinese astronomical and mathematical book of the Treatise on Astrology of the Kaiyuan Era ( Kaiyuan Zhanjing), compiled in 718 CE during the Tang Dynasty. [6]

    The Kaiyuan Zhanjing was compiled by Gautama Siddha , an astronomer and astrologer born in Chang’an, and whose family was originally from India. He was also notable for his translation of the Navagraha calendar into Chinese. [7]

    Gautama Siddha introduced Indian numerals with zero (〇) in 718 in China as a replacement of counting rods . [8]

  260. @Thomm

    Ah. you found my comment non coherent? I thought you had a genius IQ, just like all those Indians in the Bay Area and Palo Alto! My bad, you couldn’t even understand a “wigger” like me :( .

    By the way, now that you’ve thrown in the (in)famous anti-semitic canard at me, you’ve made it quite clear why so many genuine patriots hate the Hindoo! Like you, they are quite good at playing second fiddle to the Zionist Jew and advancing his nation and soul destroying policies and making a buck on the way (actually more like a million bucks). I’m sure the Mnuchins and the Krystols and the Schumers would have good “jobs” cut out for the likes of you once you replace the WASP traitors.

    Me, I’d love to see something like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpdkDZIkMbg) celebrated in the good ‘ol USA. May be you wish the same for India and happily cheer for the Hindu nationalist Modi. But I’m sure you’d detest something like this for the USA.

    Don’t worry it won’t come to pass. It is wishful thinking on my part as the grip of the pharisee on the white neck is so strong, it won’t let go until the chicken has been completely choked. No wonder I’ve left this madhouse circus long back.

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  261. @edgeslider

    As far as I can tell, he’s a mild-mannered retired(I think) person of Chinese descent and only okay at English – and he still has been able to successfully troll you.

    That’s pretty amazing.

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  262. Thomm says:
    @HogHappenin

    By the way, now that you’ve thrown in the (in)famous anti-semitic canard at me, you’ve made it quite clear why so many genuine patriots hate the Hindoo!

    Except that I am not an Indian, nor an I anti-Semitic. I said in the clearest possible terms that I fully agree with Ron Unz’s agenda, and am in support of it.

    You can’t grasp even the simplest concepts, and are only capable of responding to the voices inside your vacuous melon. You White Trashionalists really are where the waste matter that the rest of us whites expel tends to collect. In an evolutionary process, the production of excellence leads to the generation of waste matter that has to coagulate somewhere, and you WN wiggers are where (in addition to your female counterparts, the fat bluehaired feminists that you covet when you occasionally lapse back into quasi-heterosexuality). You will never come to terms with why successful whites keep you out of respectable society.

    You are getting in the way of your betters. Get off my lawn, faggot!

    Heh heh heh heh

  263. denk says:
    @TT

    But fear not. The time draws nigh when an aspiring superpower will stand firmly alongside the United States in its defense of humankind. India, the world’s largest democracy and a haven for the free market economics of Capitalism, is forging a deep alliance with the United States.

    FUKUSI[ndia] and democracy is an oxymoron !
    But thats another story for another day.

    Once a sepoy. , always a sepoy.
    The Indians have been fighting whiteys wars against fellow Asians since time immemorial.

    They were in the thick of the Opium wars,

    The eight nations alliance,

    CIA/RAW engineered the 1959 Tibet ‘uprising’,

    They fought a proxy war for the USA/USSR against China in 1962,

    The fell over themselves to join Obama’s pivot,

    They are in Trump’s Quad, a miniature ‘eight nations alliance’

    ….
    In other words, there wasnt a whiteys war against China that the Indians didnt like, its no wonder that the whiteys want them as soul mates,

    India got talents,
    But so do the Germans, Jews, French, Dutch …..
    what makes the Indians stand out is their undying loyalty to their former colonial masters, fukus.

    Hence, the possibility of TPTB geopolitical deliberation, in granting Indians full spectrum dominion in politics and tech, cannot be casually dismissed as ‘conspiracy theory’.

    In fact, there’s a ‘conspiracy theory’ going viral in Singapore ,

    the Indian WMM that threatens to render the city state ‘little India‘ of SEA, is a made in USA ploy to turn the Chinese enclave into an Indian./murkkan outpost squatting right at China’s jugular.

    I certainly do not discount that possibility.

    hehheheh

  264. TT says:

    In fact, there’s a ‘conspiracy theory’ going viral in Singapore ,

    the Indian WMM that threatens to render the city state ‘little India‘ of SEA, is a made in USA ploy to turn the Chinese enclave into an Indian./murkkan outpost squatting right at China’s jugular.

    That’s what i suspected too. If Malaysia Najib won coming election, i suppose US Saudi IsIS will be activated to disrupte Johore- China investment & new FSR rail.

    Worry not, China juz defended Mauritius against indi. So they will rescue you, unless those AMK blinds elected LHL again…then wipe clean all your ass get ready.

    And what that MF Indian doing in that Eight Alliance war? Wasn’t their motherland under attacked by British then? This 1st time i know India was involved. Omg, then how can China ever trust this asshole.

    Instead of fighting back, they shed blood for their colonial master like dumb fk hunting dogs attacking all Asians. Slave DNA is now reactivated, volunteerily go on Anglo-US leash again.

    At least Chinese & Russian always fight back aggressors to defend their country.

    • Replies: @edgeslider
  265. @Daniel Chieh

    A elderly troll? Is that a joke, or just lack of irony? This ping pong is somehow mild mannered, when he is trolling like 4Chan autiste. Where is he mild mannered, in real life? and I am supposed to know it? And you jump in to save his wrinkled old ass, why because you are Chinese like him? That is how tribalism works, it distorts your perception of who got did what to whom..

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @TT
  266. @TT

    Emperor Eleven, er. XI, has crowned himself the latest Chinese emperor and declared that his empire extends all the across oceans and even includes Africa and several Islamic lands. So old man, Murika and Hindustan need not do anything such thing you are worried about, they just have to secure their borders and batten down their hatches and wait and watch. Play the long game. The Chinese with their borg like performance IQ and conformity and being deficient in verbal IQ and demonstrated inability to manage a peaceful transition of power, will self-limit and themselves as a civilization in the long run.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @TT
    , @TT
    , @denk
  267. @edgeslider

    Man, you got triggered but good. And no, his fairly even handed nature appear from his posts on multiple threads. And if you followed me, you would notice that I “jump” in for quite a few people and on average spend more time mocking my co-ethnics posters than defending them.

    But do work on that temper. It affects your behavior in real life too, and can be unhealthy.

  268. Dude, now don’t you go all preachy on me. *You* called papa Ping Pong a troll yourself and were quite smug about it. I don’t care what the WTF you are up to here, because you are just a smug little parasitic Chinese supremacist, whining about all the others who don’t bow down to the imagined greatness of Emperor Xi’s empire to which you and your kind are still enslaved to.

    • LOL: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @TT
  269. Talha says:
    @edgeslider

    I don’t think the Chinese are seriously interested in establishing terrestrial claims far beyond their own borders. Not much in their history shows a proclivity towards that – at least after they got fairly trounced at the Battle of Talas. Even the famous invasions of Japan from Chinese territory were attempted by the Mongols.

    Sure they have some border issues, who doesn’t?

    But they’ve already done fairly well by supplying the world with knick-knacks, so why mess up a good thing?

    will self-limit and themselves as a civilization in the long run.

    All civilizations collapse in the long run – we dig up their stuff and stick it up in museums to oooh and aaah at.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
  270. Talha says:
    @Talha

    In the case people want to have a quick review of the Battle of Talas:

  271. @edgeslider

    I don’t care what the WTF you are up to here, because you are just a smug little parasitic Chinese supremacist, whining about all the others who don’t bow down to the imagined greatness of Emperor Xi’s empire to which you and your kind are still enslaved to.

    Powerful, powerful take.

    BTW, I mostly live in Mr. Karlin’s Russian Reaction blog, talking about things not related to China.

    Do mind your heart and have a nice life.

  272. TT says:
    @edgeslider

    Hey little Candala untouchable, don’t you dare call Emperor the Great XI so disrespectful, address him as The Highness, or My Lord. Kowtow.

    What it got to do with me or you if Xi serves how many terms, im not from China, go tell his Highness subjects. Oh man, Murkans & Indis the clown circus are telling the world how they should PC rule like their defunct gov.

    Get educated, Geoffrey Roberts wrote an good article about Pres Xi background, with 600 over comments. Btw, China Pres is merely ceremonial, only party Gen Sec( come with PLA CMC chairmanship) has the true power that not subjected to term limit, but still subject to party members election.

    This is a very wise decision by CCCP party to have Pres Xi see thru China Dreams & deeper restructuring, better than murkans Potus 2nd term sitting duck wiggling & whining. Xi must be looking forward to unyoke that heavy burden put on his shoulder.

    Even dissidents like Aiweiwei has no qualms about this, yet murkans & indis are shrieking dictator, emperor…yah, West darling Lee Kuan Yew was labeled Dictator for ruling over 30yrs(world longest serving PM), as he proudly declared: then i muz be the most benevolent dictator to make Spore such a peaceful, safe & prosperous country, compared with the West(and your Hindustan)plagued with violent crimes, poverty, homeless, jobless and dysfunction gov.

    Then see what your Hindustan Raj Moldy screwed up your homeland by collaborating with murkans vultures, have 500rupees obsolete, go cashless with Rothschild when majority are illiterate without banking access, replaced your cotton & main food agri with Monsanto toxic weed killer & GMO seeds. Buy more weapons to go war with China…built white elephant Jp FSR instead of upgrade dilapidated infrastructure….self transferring power from one corrupted BJP to another Congress like US election.

    So murkans & indiis are real soulmate. For sure Chinese won’t change Xi for all 51 idiots Potus with all corrupted Indis PM thrown in FOC. So is Russian for Pres Putin, no way. Nay.

    Indeed i muz admit you have juz proven your very high verbal IQ but low perf IQ80, much slippery talking good for bragging with no substance.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @denk
  273. TT says:
    @edgeslider

    Emperor Eleven, er. XI, has crowned himself the latest Chinese emperor and declared that his empire extends all the across oceans and even includes Africa and several Islamic lands.

    Candala, address Pres Xi respectfully as His Highness.

    I would more than happy if China extended his BRI empire to my country, than i will have fortune fallen from heaven, free FSR, prosperity & security. But sorry, stupid Hindustan, murkans, jp & Oz are not welcome. Go suck each other tits.

    China is not foolish like Indi devouring all neighbors land, to incorporate Africa & Islam poor countries means have more poors to feed & lift from poverty, more burden to secure useless lands.

    How many lands have indii gobbled & raped since independent? 50+ princely states, South Tibet, 7 sisters Naga land, Sikkim, Bhutan, relentless attempts on Nepal, Sri Lanka, Mauritius which juz rescued by China.

    China extended influence by peaceful constructive BRI welcome by everyone except those 4 imperialists, Indii unleashed its rapists raping all its neighbors…. talk with high moral ground…hehehehe

  274. TT says:
    @edgeslider

    A elderly troll? Is that a joke, or just lack of irony? This ping pong is somehow mild mannered, when he is trolling like 4Chan autiste. Where is he mild mannered, in real life? and I am supposed to know it? And you jump in to save his wrinkled old ass, why because you are Chinese like him? That is how tribalism works, it distorts your perception of who got did what to whom..

    Now candala, tell me where i have troll like autistic? If im wrong, tell me like Malla or Singh or Talha & i will always grateful to learn some new tricks.

    If im correct, but you got butt hurts bcos of exposing your dirty ass(you should wash with water) then you whine & make yourself a laughing stock shaming your own kins. Learn from Malla, he debate bravely, admits faults, praise goodness, correct each other misconception.

    Butt hurts to be exposed of your trick huh, ex-Indian? What other reason do you profess other than what denk & i had pointed out?

    You yet to reply my qn. If you remain silent, that shall constitute as your admission, what denk & my comments are all true.

  275. Talha says:
    @TT

    Western governments have no compunctions about working with dictators or monarchs-for-life; as evidenced by the infamous Trump, Saudi, Egypt glowing-globe photo.

    It all depends on whether they are allies or rivals; the huffing and hawing is simply theater for the masses.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @TT
  276. TT says:
    @edgeslider

    Since im too moderate for your tender ass, then i should be as frank like denk.

    Chinese leaders speak little, perform much. West & Indii leaders rant & lies alot, but perform shit. Who is better, high verbal IQ or Performance IQ? See result, China vs India vs US.

    A long list of corporates sunk by smooth talking Indian “great” leaderships…speak tonnes of words. See result. No?

    The historical ruthless land invading traits since its independent, pathologic lying to the teeth by all its leaders, esp Nehru in his 1962 misadventures sino war. No?

    Today its filled with corruption, cheaters, violent rapists & murderers, utter corrupted politicians, ignorant voters voting according to tribalism, over 40% illiteracy, caste system, burning women for dowry, extremely polluted yet with little industrial output, rubbish & open toilet everywhere, filthy dirty, stink, in short a shithole. No? Visit India yourself.

    A dysfunction economic with high trade deficit, negligible exports, high debts, low reserve, no resources, little industrialization, utter dilapidated infrastructures, broken health & education system, over spending poor military, explosive uneducated poor population. No?

    Only Gadhiji is a true great leader. The rest are mostly shameless corrupted liars, 2parties NIC & BJP bickering & rotating power like US Democrat & Republican. Look at its shithole result. No?

    PM Moldy, the murderer who massacre thousands of Muslims in Gujarat(?), lies about his Hindu celibacy, blacklisted by US until he won election. No?

    This is the highly civilized India declination state under British colonial master colluded with Indii corrupted leaders.

    Juz google fithy polluted india for more shocking images.

    India presumably has many world class talents, , but….are they soooo good that they managed to steamroll over the Wasps, Germans, Jews, Jp, Chinese , Dutch etc etc………wholesale, to monopolise the top jobs in SV, ?

    Firstly, Indians are generally very aggressively upwards mobile, very adept at social networking compared to the teutonic Germans, introvert Chinese, Jp ….., so they tend to rise faster up the career ladder. Their fluency in English is another advantage.

    Secondly, Indian managers are notorious for their tribalism, once they secured the top position, they tend to hire their own clans to replace the locals.
    …Indian tsunami.

    Last but not least, the never mentioned geopolitical dimension…to grant India full spectrum of influence
    …a massive boost under Obama’s pivot and now, continues with Trump’s Quad.

    Ergo,
    The meteorically rise afforded to Indians in the govn and tech sector is very likely part and parcel of the China containment machinations.

    India got talents,
    But so do the Germans, Jews, French, Dutch …..
    what makes the Indians stand out is their undying loyalty to their former colonial masters, fukus.

  277. TT says:
    @Talha

    Precisely… Fukus even removed democratic elected good leaders to install ruthless tyrants in long history.

    Bcos i visited India for business & tourism in past, i felt much for its declination of great civilization & its people hopeless agony. To bury head inside sand means disposing ass in air. They need a visionary leader like Deng XP to see the Hard Truths, and transform.

    Chinese willingly learned from better one, be it ancient Indian civilization, spiritual Buddhism(but they got the wrong perverted Mahayana) or existing Western industrialization.

    But after trying out dynasty, Western democracy & communism system that don’t work, they go their own Chinese way. The result is a billion of poverty elevated, with 2020 targeted to end.

    Today every developed countries has ~20% poverty rate, incl EU, Spore, Jp, Korea. Yes, even 3rd GDP PPP rich Spore bottom 20% is earning less than $600 barely enough to eat. The result of West ideology, sacrificing people welfare for mindless growth competition, in globalization on slaught. The latest quickie magic is Weapon of Mass Migration, flooding with cheap labours for growth.

    China has risen from endless devastating wars, transforming itself to a unseen miracle over juz short 30yrs, putting its people welfare high in agenda after able to fill their 1.4B stomachs, they deserve our high respect to learn from them humbly.

    Their leadership is patriotic technocrats with vision, economic growth is consistently stella, new innovation is sprouting, infrastructures are first class, people are filled with unparalleled pride & hope. See result, West & India leaders talking is cheap.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @Talha
  278. @TT

    Their leadership is patriotic technocrats with vision, economic growth is consistently stella, new innovation is sprouting, infrastructures are first class, people are filled with unparalleled pride & hope. See result, West & India leaders talking is cheap.

    To be fair, China has a lot of corruption too and it has a substantial cost to the country, but ultimately, even the corrupt officials tend to get something meaningful accomplished; I recall that there were officials arrested in China Railway for skimming funds and that’s terrible, but you still have high speed rail everywhere. Same goes for the ghost cities – pretty sad(and funny) examples of provincial officials trying to compete against each other for GDP growth, but at the end of the day, most of them have managed to become useful.

    It is funny, though, in how Western and Indian residents often seem to assume that everything “China” does is somehow in relation to them, such as the entire “look, they are making fake cities to bolster their GDP to the us!” And you see this a lot in Indian commentators who appear to be really focused on the idea that China is somehow intent on undermining them because….reasons.

    In reality, China mostly lives in its own bubble. The provinces are competing against each other and pulling their crap because its what they do, for hundreds of years. When a Gansu peasant yells at me for being from shifty Shanghaiese descent, its a ritual that has been repeated across many generations.

    • Replies: @TT
  279. Talha says:
    @TT

    I certainly hope the best for the people of China. Hopefully any advances they make will also benefit the rest of humanity and – yes – others may be able to learn from their successes.

    My sincere advice to them is to not forget their spiritual needs as they work towards accomplishing their material welfare.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @TT
  280. denk says:
    @TT

    edgeslider is an Indian who presumably ‘made good’ in murikka, so he’s now speaking like a true blue murikkan son,
    decrying further WMM from his motherland who threaten to spoil his good life.

    hehehhe

    • Replies: @TT
  281. TT says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Every countries has corruption, but many legalized it, like US, see how lobbyists work, Clinton’s fund… so corrupted that the most powerful rich country bcom dysfunctional.

    China corruption is deep since ancient time. Its amazing China could remove a million elite officials & still function.

    Xi is probably taking a leaf from Spore, pay officials well with good retirement perks, so they won’t bother with bribe. It seems to work.

    Many find amusing how India is so obsessed & paranoid in every China move, always suspecting its legit activities, even PLAN plying pass international Indian ocean or BRI. Part of Indian MIC way to get more budget to fill politicians pockets. Denk said, Robber cries robbery…hehehehe

    US empire has no option but to defend its hegemon now to avoid collapsing. Its interesting to see how Petrol Yuan roll out this month, and if gold price rocket up. Then we can see how Uncle Scam struggle with the noose tighten on its neck….blowing out its last tyranny breathe….

  282. TT says:
    @Talha

    Don’t worry, murkans already planted time bomb of more than hundred millions Christians & Catholics inside China. Its forecasted to grow to 600M by ~2030, largest in world. Even Pope has decided to bend his back for the biggest market.

    A nightmare that Pres Xi wake up every night in cold sweat…hehehehe

    • Replies: @Talha
  283. denk says:
    @edgeslider

    That is how tribalism works,

    —————-

    An Indian complaining about tribalism ?
    Thats funny !

    You should tell that to those murikkans , or Singaporeans who got replaced by Indian WMM and ….asked by their Indian manager to train their replacements !!

    Emperor Eleven, er. XI, has crowned himself the latest Chinese emperor and declared that his empire extends all the across oceans and even includes Africa and several Islamic lands.
    ————–

    Wow its sooo scary !
    Practically everybody except the murikkans and their Indian/jp soul mates have been bludgeoned into joining that BRI empire !

    hhhhhh

    Murika and Hindustan need not do anything such thing you are worried about, they just have to secure their borders and batten down their hatches and wait and watch.
    —————

    and give them a free rein ?

    Its precisely appeasers like you who enable the chicoms expansionists to extend their border right into murikkan territories,

    hehehhe

    Hmmmm
    The way Indians secured their borders make the whiteys look almost like angels..

    hhhhh

    https://www.countercurrents.org/khan131007.htm

    • Replies: @TT
  284. Talha says:
    @TT

    Whoa seriously??!! Dang – that would be crazy! Man, the Chinese would literally take over the mantle of Christendom as Europe sheds it within the same time-frame:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html

    Wow – that is no joke!

    Well, I for one am looking forward to a Christian-heavy China and what that means for the future of the world.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @TT
  285. TT says:
    @denk

    Sure, why that asshole got so stirred up by my agreement to your comments?

    Don’t worry, new Mongolian migrants will be coming to join him. Since US has instigated a pro-US anti-China-Russia new Mongolia Pres, Trumps can’t juz give a bread crumbs of $8M trade p. a.

    Russia muz has regretted to force China make Mongolia independent, now bcom a US base. But Uncle Scam is broke, only fool like India & Mongolia will follow him.

    ULAANBAATAR: Mongolia’s president has appealed to U.S. President Donald Trump for more trade between their countries, …

    Mongolia’s role as an “oasis of democracy” in a region where authoritarianism in on the rise “does not contribute to economic
    development”,…

    “Ordinary Mongolian citizens have become discouraged by democracy and have begun to doubt our choice,” he said. Mongolia is emerging from an economic crisis after agreeing to a US$5.5 billion (£3.9 billion)
    economic bailout from the International Monetary Fund last year, which helped stabilise its currency and relieve debt pressures.
    ….
    But Mongolia exported just US$8.3 million worth of goods to the United States last year, according to Mongolia’s National Statistics Office. Its total exports stood at US$6.2 billion, with the bulk going south to China. Trade with the United States was less than 2 percent of its total last year, and a U.S. decision to allow imports of Mongolian clothing would help ensure economic stability, Battulga said.

    He also called for easier visa conditions for Mongolian citizens. The United States is one of Mongolia’s so-called Third Neighbours, …

    “I am confident that supporting Mongolia’s economic security will play a prominent role in your country’s foreign policy,” he wrote.

  286. TT says:
    @Talha

    Yeh, US first forced WTO & globalization into China throat. When China turn the table, Obama try TTP. But Trump dump it, want trade tariff..waiting for China respond then all US import goods price rocket, …shooting its own foot again.

    Now US plant Christianity to control China, wait China turn around again buy up Vatican with its 600M members to select new Chinese Pope, control all West churches, ..Uncle Scam cry foul….China control our mfg, then treasury, now even our religion….. kamma is always fair….hehehehe

    • Replies: @Talha
  287. TT says:
    @denk

    Denk, Facebook has started to heavily censored Myanmar users from anything about Muslims, esp Bengali aka Rohingya, while tolerating ISIS & Al Queda heart eating & terror postings, Muslims hate speech calling to kill Burmese.

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/facebook-defends-track-record-on-fighting-myanmar-hate-speech–10040370

    So much of China pollution news, crimes, debt crisis, but nothing about India.

    Very amusing, US & UN definition of free speech…everything up side down.

    Here’s one Burmese comment

    This is an attempt to censor free speech and democratic distribution
    of information as originally expounded by FB creator Mark Zuckerberg. Now, the carefully crafted and false information by islamists and main stream media with plenty of $$$ is being overtaken in Myanmar by public participation in the
    information dissemination, with no $$ but only a willingness to participate.

    That brings us to a point “what is hate speech”? How about a comparison???

    1) The millions of islamic preachers including Anjem Choudhary, Omar Bakri, Moustafa Zayed, and Dr Zakir Naik calling to kill infidels as stated in Quran?

    2) People who have left Islam were Muslims (many of them now gone into hiding) for many years or decades, and their insight and warnings are particularly eye opening, frightening, insightful, and more. Ali Sina, Ayan Hirsi Ali, Hassan Mosan Yousef, Nonie Darwish, Brigitte Gabriel, Wafi Sultan, Salman Rushdie, Ibn Warraq are all highly recommend – read their books, watch their youtube videos, see their websites

    3) Buddhist monk U Wirathu, Christian Fr. Daniel Byantoro, Winston Churchill, Raymond Ibrahim, Robert Spence etc.. who have exposed the ideology of Islam to the
    masses. They all agree on one thing, which is excellently summarized by Craig Winn, author of the book “Prophet of Doom” “..for the plight of Muslims. I want nothing more than to free them from Islam, and in so doing, free us from the terror their doctrine inspires…”

    • Replies: @denk
    , @denk
  288. Talha says:
    @TT

    wait China turn around again buy up Vatican with its 600M members to select new Chinese Pope

    LOL! That would be awesome! That’s cool, Europeans have been popes for centuries. Time to give some other people a shot.

    now even our religion

    If they properly understood Christianity, they would know, it was never “their religion” – it’s a universal religion (like Islam) and open to everyone. If they drop the flag, too bad for them, you guys will pick it up.

    I mean, that’s how I feel, but it ain’t my religion so…

    Peace.

    • Replies: @TT
  289. TT says:
    @Talha

    One who control the religion control their subjects’ mind. That’s origin of many religions. Uncle Scam bring it to a higher level, hybrid warfare.

    Eg. Philippine- over 80% is Catholics, 10% Christians. They have hamstrung their gov long time. Its illegal to divorce, do contraceptive, abortion, etc. Foreign Pope appoints their Bishops, who hold sway to 80% followers to elect their gov. See the power matrix ?

    Now Pres Duterte disobedient to Uncle Scam, bishops have their followers besieged him, judges are blocking his order, HRW is sueing him… Uncle Scam even activated its ISIS terrorists to take down one of its city. See the power of religion?

    Similarly, Saudi wahabhi now control most countries Sunni clergymen with its lush fund back by US, who control millions of followers world wide. They can activate tens of thousands ISIS for Uncle Scam to fight in Libya, Iraq, Syria, Africa, Russia, China Xinjiang, …

    Whole Asia are all targeted, in both religions. Now its EU turn. Russia probably see through, they have their own East Orthodox Christianity revived & export out, Putin set up one church in Paris last yr.

    China leaders understand, never let a foreign Pope appoint their Bishops. So Christians & Catholics West foreign missionaries all gone underground forming a huge network, its a big time bomb tickling….

    Pres Xi is waking up every night in cold sweats… like Falungong HQ in US..Xinjiang Turks terrorists trained in Nato Turkey by CIA…hehehehe

    If Xi could turn around the table control Vatican & Saudi, then Uncle Scam is waking up every night in cold sweats… hehehehe

    • Replies: @Talha
  290. denk says:
    @TT

    We keep hearing about white genocide, whereas ‘yellow genocides’ have been going on since ww2 without a peep from the ‘international communities’

    Indian WMM already overrun the ‘seven sisters’….. Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Meghalaya, Manipur, Mizoram, Nagaland, and Tripura. of the NE, plus Sikkim, Bhutan, ..

    Singapore has already been Bhutanised,
    Myanmar is work in progress, FUKUSI is piling on Rangoon over the ‘rohinhga crisis’

    http://www.gearoidocolmain.org/rohingya-psyops-us-covert-war-myanmar/

    Even South Asian countries like Nepal, Sri Lanka have not been spared by the Indian WMM tsunami,

    ‘It was India’s RAW that was instrumental in toppling the Rajapksa government in collaboration with the Western imperialist espionage agencies as CIA and M16 and the Tamil diaspora. These evil trio (CIA, M16 and RAW) wanted to establish a puppet regime in Sri Lanka and thereby prevent Chinese influence in the country.

    Following the establishment of the puppet regime Indian illegal immigration is reported to have increased considerably in the North with Grama Sevakas providing all registration facilities. They have been provided with Sri Lankan passports as well. This will drastically affect the voters list and in addition to this the puppet regime has brought in a parliament Act to grant voting rights to the Tamils of North and East who have migrated to and resident in overseas countries.’

    http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2017/05/16/modi-subdues-sirisena-and-ranil/

  291. Talha says:
    @TT

    One who control the religion control their subjects’ mind.

    This is true, unfortunately for those who would, religion seems to have a mind of its own and can tread its own path. I don’t think the US or anybody can really control which way Christianity goes on a political scale in China any more than they can in Africa. As I said, and as you posited, Christianity can completely pivot its base within the next century.

    See the power matrix ?

    I can see the dynamics in play somewhat in Catholicism since it’s always been top-down. But the hierarchy is also what bubbles up from the bottom – which is why they just got saddled with a non-European (South American) pope and are facing the consequences. It can easily shift to an African or Asian one in time.

    Similarly, Saudi wahabhi now control most countries Sunni clergymen with its lush fund

    Not even close. Vast majority of Sunni scholars are not Wahhabi – nor even pro-Wahhabi. The Saudis do have extensive influence with their money, but they are still in the minority. They simply make a lot more noise beyond their numbers so everyone thinks they actually have more representation. Everyone is basically getting fairly sick of them, but it is not reported in the West since many in the West are their pals:
    “The Saudis step deeper into trouble almost by the week. Swamped in their ridiculous war in Yemen, they are now reeling from an extraordinary statement issued by around two hundred Sunni Muslim clerics who effectively referred to the Wahhabi belief – practiced in Saudi Arabia – as “a dangerous deformation” of Sunni Islam. The prelates included Egypt’s Grand Imam, Ahmed el-Tayeb of al-Azhar, the most important centre of theological study in the Islamic world, who only a year ago attacked “corrupt interpretations” of religious texts and who has now signed up to “a return to the schools of great knowledge” outside Saudi Arabia.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/saudi-arabia-attacked-sunni-shia-leaders-wahhabism-chechenya-robert-fisk-a7322716.html

    Also – going back to my point about religion being uncontrollable; many of these extremist groups that were spawned from Wahhabism hate the Saudi ruling elite with a passion and would love to overthrow them. They have made this intent quite public.

    If Xi could turn around the table control Vatican & Saudi

    Xi could easily have the Chinese take over Islam – all they have to do is study it and surpass everyone else in understanding – our religious leadership is not based on ethnicity. Right now the top scholars of the Hanafi school are in Pakistan, India and Syria (some in Egypt and Turkey). The Hui are also traditionally Hanafi – they can take the mantle at any time if they have the qualifications. More power to them I say – makes no difference to me if the Mufti of Makkah (or the next Caliph for that matter) is Chinese. Again, the Saudi influence is there, but in the Muslim world, they claim to be the leaders, but no one who knows the reality on the ground takes that seriously.

    As far as a Chinese pope or representation at the World Council of Churches, I don’t see how this can be blocked if the Chinese have the numbers.

    The issue is, if Xi really wants to challenge it – he’s going to have to come up with something that can go toe to toe spiritually with Christianity and win. The West may have tossed much of Christianity aside, but people shouldn’t underestimate it. Go back all the way to its pre-imperial time under the Roman Empire – you cannot simply stamp it out by force. It has a very strong faith-martyr tradition in its initial stages. And if you’ve got a system set up like a pseudo-kingdom/empire (kind of the way China is going, though in a technocratic fashion) then all you need is one leader or his wife or child to take the faith and…game over.

    Peace.

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    , @TT
  292. @Talha

    You might be interested to know that Islam has been in China for more than 600 years.

    http://www.islamawareness.net/Asia/China/islchina.html

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  293. Talha says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Yes, that article is brief but a good start. The contact with Muslims was quite early (in respect to trade, political relations and war). It leaves out some of the military clashes between Chinese and Umayyads and Abbasids, but those weren’t that extensive. One thing it misses out on is that later on, it picked up pace due to indigenous Chinese teachers who became students of the Naqshbandi Sufi masters of Transoxiana (often known as the Khawajagan) – which is where the spiritual lineage of my teachers also derives – and then took it back to their native land.

    Actually Christianity also has quite a history in that area. It may not have reached far into China, but Nestorian Christians (booted out of Byzantine lands and unable to preach in Muslim ones) went further East and found fertile soil among many of the Mongol and Turkic tribes.

    Peace.

  294. The author of the post is certainly right that there is a dangerous level of leftist delusion among Indian-American elites. However, the hatred and negativity shown towards Indians puts me in a tough spot, since I’m Indian but yet an avid Unz review reader as I know the mainstream media is lying on a wide spectrum of issues.

    I aim for my blog to be the starting point for an Indian alt-right that is understanding of the views of white nationalists but also advocating for the interests of Indians and especially Hindus. I am reading and digesting all of the comments above, especially the ones that aren’t pro-Indian. There is a ton of negative sentiment towards Indians from most people in the “alt-right” space but I’m hopeful that there is a way to co-exist by focusing on the more pressing threats of Islam and China. Welcome all to view and comment on my blog.

    redpillindian.blogspot.com

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    , @TT
  295. Talha says:

    by focusing on the more pressing threats of Islam and China

    Plenty of Indians are Muslims. Estimates say that by 2050 India will have the largest Muslim population on the planet – taking the crown from Indonesia. Furthermore, they will be around 20% of the population in India since they have more kids than others do.

    I’m sorry, what possible solution can you provide for the Alt-Right in Western countries when India hasn’t figured out the solution for their growing “Muslim problem”? It seems you are spreading yourselves too thin. Focus on one or the other; Islam or China. Then come up with a viable game plan and move forward.

    Focusing on China and Islam at the same time will likely solidify cooperation between the two:
    “China-Turkey Relations Grow Despite Differences over Uighurs”

    http://www.mei.edu/content/article/china-turkey-relations-grow-despite-differences-over-uighurs

    I mean, China already is fairly close to Pakistan and Pakistan and Turkey are starting a defense and military-industrial cooperation network.

    The people most concerned about this kind of cooperation are the Israelis:

    https://besacenter.org/perspectives-papers/china-turkey-relations/

    Peace.

  296. DB Cooper says:
    @Red Pill Indian

    Since its creation in 1947 India has been on a slow motion rampage of land grabbing every single of its neighbors land including China while China has settled amicably twelve of its fourteen contiguous land borders with the exception of India and Bhutan (Bhutan is basically in a state of semi-occupation by India). And you are talking about threat from China? India is still occupying a piece of China today for crying out loud.

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  297. Thomm says:
    @DB Cooper

    Since its creation in 1947 India has been on a slow motion rampage of land grabbing every single of its neighbors land including China while China has settled amicably twelve of its fourteen contiguous land borders

    That is absurd. One marvels at the mental malpractice needed to believe it.

    China invaded and annexed Tibet (a peaceful country) and murdered and replaced most of the population. China also claims Taiwan to this day. China invaded VietNam in 1979 (and lost).

    Hell, even Pakistan ceded land to China.

    India, in the meantime, has done nothing of the sort. Bangladesh, in 1971, wanted to rejoin India and India declined the offer.

    You are the first Chinese person I have met who is outright dumb. That is why I thought you were a WN wigger at first.

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    , @denk
  298. DB Cooper says:
    @Thomm

    Go to Taiwan or Hong Kong and ask people there whether China invaded Tibet and you will get a blank stare. This narrative of China invaded Tibet is made up by the US for geopolitical reason and India sustain this nonsense because Tibet was invaded all right, by India!

    You don’t know your country too well. India is hated by all its smaller neighbors because India is a bully and a land grabber. Here is a selected list of land grab by India since 1947:

    1947 Annexation of Kashmir:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/06/indias-shame/

    http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/kashmirs-young-rebels/

    1949 Annexation of Manipur:

    http://www.tehelka.com/manipurs-merger-with-india-was-a-forced-annexation/

    http://www.passblue.com/2017/09/05/in-lush-manipur-women-work-for-peace-as-militarization-marches-on/

    1949 Annexation of Tripura:

    http://www.crescent-online.net/2009/09/the-myths-of-one-nation-and-one-hinduism-in-india-zawahir-siddique-2316-articles.html

    1951 Annexation of South Tibet:

    http://kanglaonline.com/2011/06/khathing-the-taking-of-tawang/

    http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/article2582.html

    http://chasfreeman.net/india-pakistan-and-china/

    1954 Annexation of Nagaland:

    http://morungexpress.com/desire-nagas-live-separate-nation-deserved/

    http://nagalandmusings.blogspot.com/2013/01/indias-untold-genocide-of-nagas.html

    1954 Attempt annexation of Sikkim and Bhutan (Failed):

    http://redbarricade.blogspot.hk/2013/01/twisted-truth.html

    1961 Annexation of Goa:

    http://www.ruleoflaw.org.au/the-annexation-of-goa/

    http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/goa-falls-indian-troops

    http://goa-invasion-1961.blogspot.in/2013/09/india-pirated-goa-china-is-regaining_16.html

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  299. DB Cooper says:

    Continue…

    1962 Annexation of Kalapani, Nepal:

    http://www.eurasiareview.com/07032012-indian-hegemony-in-nepal-oped/

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1239348

    http://www.sharnoffsglobalviews.com/land-disputes-116/

    1962 Aggression against China:

    http://gregoryclark.net/redif.html

    http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/news-events/podcasts/renewed-tension-indiachina-border-whos-blame

    1971 Annexation of Turtuk, Pakistan:

    http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/suddenly-indian

    1972 Annexation of Tin Bigha, Bangladesh:

    http://www.dhakatribune.com/op-ed/2014/feb/20/killing-fields

    1975 Annexation of Sikkim (the whole country):

    http://nepalitimes.com/issue/35/Nation/9621#.UohjPHQo6LA

    http://www.passblue.com/2015/07/22/a-small-himalayan-kingdom-remembers-its-lost-independence/

    http://www.amazon.com/Smash-Grab-Annexation-Sunanda-Datta-Ray/dp/9383260386

    http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/International-Relations/Indian-hegemonism-drags-Himalayan-kingdom-into-oblivion

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/annexation-of-sikkim-by-india-was-not-legal-wangchuk-namgyal/1/391498.html

    1983 (Aborted) Attempted invasion of Mauritius:

    http://thediplomat.com/2013/03/when-india-almost-invaded-mauritius/

    1990 (Failed) First Attempted annexation of Bhutan:

    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/07/world/india-based-groups-seek-to-disrupt-bhutan.html

    2006 Annexation of Duars, Bhutan:

    http://wangchasangey.blogspot.in/2015/11/different-kind-of-anxieties-on.html#comment-form

    2013 Annexation of Moreh, Myanmar:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nehginpao-kipgen/easing-indiamyanmar-borde_b_4633040.html

    2017 Aggression against China:

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/07/06/sikkim-stand-off-china-india-collide-himalayas/

    http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/2102555/indias-china-war-round-two

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/11/china-india-standoff-modi-has-bitten-off-more-than-he-can-chew/

    2017 (Failed) Second Attempted annexation of Bhutan:

    http://wangchasangey.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-strategy-behind-india-doklam.html

    http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/2106709/india-must-find-face-saving-pretext-and-withdraw-doklam

  300. TT says:
    @Talha

    Catholicism since it’s always been top-down. But the hierarchy is also what bubbles up from the bottom – which is why they just got saddled with a non-European (South American) pope and are facing the consequences. It can easily shift to an African or Asian one in time.

    According to my readings, ancient Pope was controlled by a group of barons to control subjects. They won’t hesitate to remove or murder him. Who is pope doesn’t matter, CIA will be stupid not to have a hand inside with its 5eyes looking 7/24 for blackmail issues.

    Think why all countries leaders are foolishly toeing US line, let in swamp of migrants/refugees blindly esp EU.

    If it shifted to Asia or Africa control, white will not even want touch it with a ten feet pole. LGBT is better religion, they will profess.

    Xi could easily have the Chinese take over Islam

    You gonna make Xi sit up whole night in cold sweat.

    Xinjiang Uyghur is enough headache, all Muslims(doctrine) want secession & refuse non Muslim leader in every countries, or suppose to eliminate non believers unless they pay a exemption tax? If they follow non contraceptive rule breed like rabbits (Turkey Erogan is demanding his subjects to do as Islam duty), soon Chinese Muslims have/will to conquer every land on earth to live & fulfil its Islam duty.

    The issue is, if Xi really wants to challenge it – he’s going to have to come up with something that can go toe to toe spiritually with Christianity and win.

    Xi is promoting Confucianism, which is good for the world as its based on universal virtues & non religion. Likely he might go for Hans-Buddhism that is similar to Confucianism on even higher morality purification, no creator god hence no religion conflict, with a flavor of Hans civilization remix.

    • Replies: @Talha
  301. Thomm says:
    @DB Cooper

    Go to Taiwan or Hong Kong and ask people there whether China invaded Tibet and you will get a blank stare. This narrative of China invaded Tibet is made up by the US for geopolitical reason and India sustain this nonsense because Tibet was invaded all right, by India!

    Jesus Christ, you are dumb. Everyone in America knows the truth about Chinese genocide in Tibet. Whether you like the Dalai Lama or not, China was the expansionist, murderous power there.

    I’m not Indian either, you idiot.

    BTW, here is how countries are viewed by Americans. China is not viewed very favorably at all (more negative than positive) :

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/181961/canada-great-britain-americans-favored-nations.aspx

    What is your answer now, faggot?

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  302. DB Cooper says:
    @Thomm

    “Everyone in America knows the truth about Chinese genocide in Tibet. Whether you like the Dalai Lama or not, China was the expansionist, murderous power there. ”

    I know certain quarters in the West and India are propagating this kind of nonsense and some people are believing it. But this doesn’t make it true. For your information even a Dalai Lama supporter, an ex president of a ‘Free Tibet’ shop in London has debunked this nonsense.

    I don’t believe an iota of this nonsense for the simple reason that ethnic/religious oppression has never been a thing in Chinese culture. Chinese people don’t even know how to ethnic or religiously oppress a people even if they want to!

    And how is China an expansionist if its territory actually shrinks in size? India is an expansionist because it is a Raj wannabe and has been invading and land grabbing its neighbors land since 1947.

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  303. Talha says:
    @TT

    If it shifted to Asia or Africa control, white will not even want touch it with a ten feet pole.

    Possibly, but then it just means Christianity leaves Whites behind to figure things out on their own. Maybe they’ll do just fine…or Europe will have another pulp-everybody-fest like WW2. Don’t know.

    all Muslims(doctrine) want secession

    Some do for sure, but not everywhere. Why would we? Given enough time, the place just becomes Muslim.

    refuse non Muslim leader in every countries

    Yeah, in Muslim-majority lands, that’s usually not going to fly.

    suppose to eliminate non believers unless they pay a exemption tax?

    I can’t think of a Muslim country that still charges jizya, can you? But in theory, yes able non-Muslim males have to pay a tax – women and children are exempt. It can be levied at the same rate as Muslim zakat and they can also pony up to do military service and help with the defense to get out of the tax.

    Chinese Muslims have/will to conquer every land on earth to live & fulfil its Islam duty.

    The more the merrier.

    But in all seriousness, I don’t know of any serious group of Muslim scholars or institutions that want to get rid of the current international protocols of non-aggression. The extremists on the other hand…are extremists.

    Likely he might go for Hans-Buddhism that is similar to Confucianism on even higher morality purification, no creator god hence no religion conflict, with a flavor of Hans civilization remix.

    Hey, like I said if he thinks that will do it, that’s fine. I’m just saying don’t underestimate the spiritual draw of Christianity – this is not a cakewalk. You are thinking about Europe, but they aren’t the best representation of a vibrant, spiritual Christianity – there are reports that even some of the Companions (ra) were impressed by the holy men of Christianity.

    Peace.

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  304. Thomm says:
    @DB Cooper

    I know certain quarters in the West and India are propagating this kind of nonsense and some people are believing it.

    Really? I would LOVE for you to spend energy trying to undo the perception that China has in the West. Overall, it is perceived negatively. Here is the ranking of countries by perception in America :

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/181961/canada-great-britain-americans-favored-nations.aspx

    I would also LOVE for you to persuade people at Unz.com that China is not the one who invaded and annexed Tibet, murdering over a million Tibetans. Almost all Americans know China is the culprit (the Dalai Lama attests to this fact). You have a lot of work to do.

    I know you have a primitive emotional need to believe certain fictions, but in America, we tend to know the score and can rank countries accurately. China has a bad reputation, as the survey above shows.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  305. TT says:
    @Talha

    Possibly, but then it just means Christianity leaves Whites behind to figure things out on their own. Maybe they’ll do just fine…or

    When old testament don’t serve, new testament was written. So someone will write another modern testament, embedded with jewish & capitalist wish.

    Some do for sure, but not everywhere. Why would we?

    Isn’t it by doctrine, Muslims should be ruled by Muslim, with Sariah laws? In South Thailand, Secular Indonesia, Malaysia(PAS party), Philippine, Myanmar(Bengali aka Rohingya), China(Xinjiang), Russia(Chechnya), India(Pak), Yugoslavia(Albania), …where Muslim has substantial number, they fighting for secession even given autonomy.

    Its ideology, extremism is termed only when violent is applied to achieve goal. I was told, those who out populated others rule the world, so Catholics & Muslims prohibit contraceptive to multiply, true?

    Chinese Muslims have/will to conquer every land on earth to live & fulfil its Islam duty.

    The more the merrier.

    Then Christian will start crusading while Muslim jihad…Hindus will resist, Buddhists simply perish, oh what a bloody world of religions.

    Given enough time, the place just becomes Muslim.

    You juz spilled the beans. Putin, Xi, Trumps, and EU are all trembling now. Get ready for circumcision, they scream… but 4 wives is tempting. lol.

    I don’t know of any serious group of Muslim scholars or institutions that want to get rid of the current international protocols of non-aggression. The extremists on the other hand…are extremists.

    Im not well verse to reveal evidences on this, but its obvious phenomenon now, you can’t miss. May be “Bliss” can enlighten us, he is amazingly knowledgeable(in verifying every tiny details to scream…shameless liars). Hehehehe

    I’m just saying don’t underestimate the spiritual draw of Christianity – this is not a cakewalk.

    Of course, under brainwashing doctrine, anyone not obeying by blind faith is condemned to hell eternally. Once i personally heard a popular Jewish pastor even embedded message of Jesus will resurrect in Jerusalem, so defend Israel, Hebrew is god’s language… they brainwashed millions 24/7. A big money magnetizing holy biz.

    Xi is waking up every nite cold sweating for xtrian spiritual genocide, now he sit whole nite in cold sweat after reading Talha comment …. .hehehehe

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  306. TT says:
    @Red Pill Indian

    I’m Indian but yet an avid Unz review reader as I know the mainstream media is lying on a wide spectrum of issues.

    Then you should clearly know since Nehru time, you are continuously been brainwashed with BS. So much indep info you can search in internet. Malla see through that.

    Now Uncle Scam is feeding Uncle Moldy cow dungs daily. America(India) is Great, Americans(Indians) are Exceptional. Buy my weapons, fight with China, you are next sole Superpower to surpass China.

    If Uncle Scam won’t let Panda rise above him, will he let his Anglo-slave sepoy do?

    I am reading and digesting all of the comments above, especially the ones that aren’t pro-Indian. There is a ton of negative sentiment towards Indians from most people in the “alt-right” space but I’m hopeful that there is a way to co-exist by focusing on the more pressing threats of Islam and China.

    Try research abit to see if these negative sentiments are warranted or just chest tumbling by alt-Rt.

    Indeed Islam & China will be Indian Hindustan BS threat. Muslims will grow explosively, both are extremely aggressive to defend their beliefs, a tickling bomb awaiting…

    While China strive ahead to built its prosperous dream, India is wallowing in self defeating lies and hubris, wasting its little precious resources in militarization & futile encircling of China under US-Quad. A self fulfilling enemy that is certainly a hyperpower.

    Visit India to see for yourself the unbelievable filthy mess, go China immerse in its vibrant prosperity, then come back US to stare at the hopeless sorry state. Everything will be clear.

    Thus India will miss to rise with China wave & East Prosperity century, and find its hopeful soulmate Uncle Scam a broke conman. Neither here nor there, with all neighbors far or near hating him.

  307. Talha says:
    @TT

    So someone will write another modern testament, embedded with jewish & capitalist wish.

    No need – there are plenty that are preaching “prosperity gospel” or “prosperity theology” – look up those terms.

    Isn’t it by doctrine, Muslims should be ruled by Muslim, with Sariah laws?

    Yes, when Muslims are sovereign. But there is no need for this when Muslims are residing in non-Muslim lands ruled by non-Muslims. We have to follow dictates of Shariah either way; I can’t have a beer just because it’s legal in the US.

    they fighting for secession even given autonomy.

    Sure and in some places, Muslims are fine living as a significant minority; for instance along the Malabar coast in India or the Hui in China or Tatars in Russia.

    The quest for self-rule is not unique to Muslims; plenty of others seek it by political or military means when they have a collective. Just in my lifetime I have seen recent moves by Catalonians to split from Spain, Basque separatists voluntarily disarming, a Tamil secessionist insurgency crushed in Sri Lanka, and two successful secessions by Christians after a protracted war in the cases of East Timor and South Sudan. So, the reasons and circumstances are varied.

    Its ideology, extremism is termed only when violent is applied to achieve goal.

    Well, Islamic doctrine assumes it will become predominant in the world eventually* – there’s no need to pursue this by violence like extremists want. We just keep doing what comes natural; praying, marrying and raising families (things other people seem too busy to do). When a society organically becomes predominantly Muslim, then naturally it may want to be ruled according to Islamic precepts.

    Muslims prohibit contraceptive to multiply, true?

    No – there is no problems with contraception in Islam, but having children is indeed encouraged.

    You juz spilled the beans.

    It’s not really a hidden secret or something – it’s a fairly consistent historic pattern. Given time, once Islam is introduced into a society, it simply establishes roots and starts to grow. It need not be militarily established, plenty of places became Muslim due to travelling Sufi teachers. It might take decades, it may take centuries, but it always seems to go one direction. The only preventative measure that seems to work is pulling it out by the root – kind of like what happened after the Reconquista. Don’t worry though, Xi will be long dead before anything close to a Muslim majority arises in China.

    but its obvious phenomenon now, you can’t miss.

    Oh, I 100% agree – we Muslims certainly have an extremism problem in our midst. And we are probably paying the worst price, they kill more Muslims than anyone else – target rich environment.

    under brainwashing doctrine

    The problem here is, I can also dismiss anti-religious ideology as brainwashing (which it often is). The issue is, you have a bunch of Chinese voluntarily going against the grain of their culture, against the wishes of their elite. They are choosing to do this – they are not forced into re-education internment camps. Even if you say it is not religious conviction, but brainwashing – the results are the same; so how does one deprogram them? Why are they attracted to Christianity? What is in the message that it is offering them that they feel is missing in life? You have to offer them something better. Right now you have proposed offering them a spiritual tradition with no need for God involved – but what if they are asking themselves the question that Pascal pondered when he stated; “There is a God-shaped vacuum in the heart of each man which cannot be satisfied by any created thing but only by God the Creator, made known through Jesus Christ.”

    If they are looking for God, what offer does Xi have on the table? Fancy gadgets and skyscrapers may not cut it.

    Peace.

    *Note: “He it is Who sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth that He may make it prevail over all religion; and Allah suffices as a witness.” (48:28)

    • Replies: @TT
  308. denk says:
    @Thomm

    Tibet ceased to be a sovereign country Ever since the Mongols conquered it in 13C, .

    Whereas,
    India invaded and genocided eight independent tiny nations since 1947.
    [The seven sisters + Sikkim]

    Hence,
    Indian imperialism is 1000 years too late, 20C is supposed to be the era of civilisation and India supposedly the ‘world’s largest democracy’.

    hehheheheh

    Everyone in America knows the truth about Chinese genocide in Tibet.
    ————-

    Sure, the same way the muriikan zombies knew that…

    Spain sank the Maine ,
    NV attacked a USN vessel in the Gulf of Tonkin,
    Saddam had WMD which could hit fukus in under 10 min,
    Ghadafi ‘massacred unarmed protestors’, he even ‘issued Viagra to the rape crazed troops’..
    Saddat ‘gas his own people’,
    China ‘invaded India , 1962,
    The marines invaded Grenada just in time to save the ass of stranded murikkan students,
    Beijing ‘massacred unarmed protestors in TAM’ 1989
    Tibet 2008, Xinjiang 2009……
    China was behind the coup in Nepal….[;-)]

    ….
    and this gem……
    The ‘rule based international system led by the USA is being threatened by the rise of a belligerent China’ !

    buahahahahhaha

  309. denk says:
    @TT

    So much of China pollution news, crimes, debt crisis, but nothing about India.

    and …..the daily slaughter of third world civilians by the USAF !

    Selective reporting,
    distortion,
    exergeration,
    Outright fabrication,

    This are the tools of trade in five eyes world…

    Remember how that aussie site banned me for mocking their hypocrisy ?

    https://theconversation.com/xi-jinpings-chilling-grab-for-absolute-power-in-china-92563

    Hell,
    I dont feel the least bit chilling about what happens in dictatorial China,

    Its those democratically elected five eyes leaders that send a cold down my spine,

    Albright
    5000000 children were worth it.

    Bush
    We dont do body count on collateral damages.

    Trump
    Get used to it, collateral damages is the fact of life.

    Such is the evolution of western civilisation !

    hehehhehe

    • Replies: @TT
  310. TT says:
    @Talha

    If they are looking for God, what offer does Xi have on the table? Fancy gadgets and skyscrapers may not cut it.

    Don’t worry, Chinese love $$, since ancient time they are satisfied to pray to Fortune God, Goddess of Mercy…. whatever god that can give them peace, health & prosperity. So fancy gadgets, nice cars, & good houses are their best gods if you ask most Chinese… hehehehe

    Xi has Confucianism for its Chinese virtue society. As i mentioned before, Xi is most likely to go for Buddhism, as it could answer all aspect of intellectual Chinese quest for searching universal truth without conflict with communism & party rule.

    Those people who couldn’t find the universal truth of nature, dizzle by many unknown phenomenon, they earnestly seek refuge in a unseen creator God to quell their uncertainty fear. Others simply do it bcos by birth.

    For me, I won’t want to wait for death to see if there is any god appear to save me. I prefer now to see the truth myself. Why?

    If i do good like charity & been kind, stay virtue avoid killing, stealing, lying, sexual misconduct & intoxication, this very life Im happy & peaceful with others.

    When i died,

    1) If there is a real wise God, he will pat my head and said good virtue man, welcome to my heavenly Kingdom.

    2) If for all such virtues and that angry violent “God” said you are condemn to hell for not believing me blindly, then i will give him a slap and toss him to hell as im very sure this is a demon Saton not a wise God …hehehehe..

    3) Should there be no god, but a hell for evil & next rebirth life, then im safe from hell, and my rebirth shall be good consider my virtue.

    4) But should there be no God & no next life, then im already happy in this very life, what’s more to ask for.

    That’s my best insurance to happiness…

    And i don’t fancy Christian heaven for after many yrs, i will get too bore with that same old harp musics, grapes & wines, looking at same stupid Caucasian jewish look wing-angels flying around for eternal. How about some techno or jazz, oddies, pizza with coke over latest blockblaster?

    Neither do i like 81 Arabs virgins Muslim heaven, after 81 days, all will lost their virginity and soon i will get bored…eternal life with those same old hags are too torturing, worst than human life where there are different nationality women of various age & unlimited virgins to choose from….new gadgets too…. hehehehe

    • Replies: @Talha
  311. Talha says:
    @TT

    So fancy gadgets, nice cars, & good houses are their best gods if you ask most Chinese…

    Excellent – well, then it seems you guys are mostly on the right trajectory. Again the issue is not with the guys that are on this track – I’m talking about the growing numbers of guys that seem to be dissatisfied with material existence being the end all and wanting a personal relationship with their Creator – you’ll have to deal with them.

    When i died

    You seem to have a game plan/strategy for the afterlife in case there is one; one should always be prepared. As a guy I know once said; if you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

    And I guess if Paradise is simply too boring, well then – really no need to go after it.

    So you’ve outlined the reasons you won’t become a Christian (or Muslim) – well and good. Again, you’re not the person converting – millions of other Chinese are about to. You need to convince them Paradise sounds boring and that they can win a cage-match with God.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @TT
  312. TT says:
    @denk

    Denk, you are trolling the whole world to clean up their lies huh?

    Why don’t you help crusading Spore msm, i find CNA, Straits Times, & Zao Bao news are mostly sourced from West like Reuters, APF, BBC, Guardian, NYT, Wapo…entire BS filled with West & India propaganda.

    With so many tribalism foreigners & Indians flooding in, latest news showed now most Sporean can’t find a good job, 22% graduate can’t get full time job, over 10% fresh graduates are either jobless or in low pay part time work like Uber driver, true?

    Wtf happen to this world of globalization & WMM. A No1 PISA, IQ109 with No3 GDP(ppp) country in such a hell mess, what about other countries? That wasn’t what i see 20yrs ago. Send whole bloody Spore gov to China for labour camp & retraining …hehehehe

    http://www.theindependent.sg/graduate-underemployment-climbs-causes-concern-among-analysts/

    • Replies: @denk
  313. @Talha

    Traditionally, China has always had Confucianism for the vast majority, Buddhism for those seeking something more spiritual, and Taoism for individuals looking for a complex religion to obsess over intellectually about. Between the three, it soaks up most of those spiritual cravings.

    Christianity will probably be sinicized too, as needed.

    • Replies: @Talha
  314. Talha says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Christianity will probably be sinicized too, as needed.

    I don’t doubt it – I would expect nothing less from the Chinese, especially now that they are accepting it on their terms, not having it forced in as party of the concessions for losing the Opium Wars. Now – of course there are memories from things like that and the Boxer and Taiping (which may have been the ultimate expression of localizing Christianity) Rebellions, but that was a long time ago. The idea of a personal relationship with God is a very, very powerful idea. Perhaps if there wasn’t such a spiritual vacuum (something you have pointed out is severely lacking) occurring in China, people wouldn’t be searching for something from outside.

    Also, let’s face it – it is a globalized world – China can no longer be as insular as she used to be. These spiritual ideas are being discussed in the global market – heck, there are apostates from Islam in Makkah right now who put out videos hiding their faces.

    From what I have read about Taoism, it is certainly a very interesting and impressive take on cosmology. The lack of anthropomorphism is refreshing, though it seems to lack in the personal-relationship-with-the-Divine aspect.

    What I do find interesting about Chinese history, and I really don’t know what to make of it, is that they certainly don’t have too much of a historical concern for much outside their area – nothing like the expansions of the Romans, Arabs, Persians, Mongols, Brits, French, etc. seems to exist. But they have these episodes of breathtaking internal violence that wipes out staggering numbers of people. The scale of it shocked me when I first read about it. I certainly hope that kind of thing doesn’t happen again because both sides would likely have nuclear weapons and modern means of warfare. Add to that the huge numbers of people that live in the urban areas and it is almost too much to think about.

    Peace.

  315. DB Cooper says:
    @Thomm

    Here is a clip from the US Department of Defense during WWII and you can clearly see that US regards Tibet part of China long before Communist China even exist.

    And the claim of murdering a million Tibetans is just another nonsense. Even a supporter of the Dalai Lama, an ex-president of a ‘Free Tibet’ shop based in London can’t stand this nonsense and has debunked it. Talk about fake news.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/opinion/22french.html

    On the other hand India did invaded Tibet and is still occupying a piece of Tibetan homeland. Tawang was invaded and annexed by India in 1951. Tawang is the birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to a four hundred years old Tibetan monastery. Tawang and South Tibet (so called Arunachal Pradesh) is currently under India’s brutal occupation and the resentment there against India rule is very high. The Western media is totally disinterested in this story.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  316. TT says:
    @Talha

    I have tried been devoted Christian, Mahayana Buddist, Taoism devotee since young but they just completely failed to answer all my doubts. And i almost approach Islam if you believe…but yoga & Qigong Taiji trump it… hehehehe

    Christianity will probably be sinicized too, as needed.

    This is what Chinese friends told, no religion above party.

    China had long history of spiritual development & philosophy. Yi Jing & Taoism are interesting but hard to comprehend. Qigong is another that some explore to understand the mini universe within our body, link with outer space beings & dev psychic, which i & friends have tried with amazing experience. Our body & outer space beings have too many things beyond scientism can explain.

    But India Theravada Buddhism meditation is the apex of all that im still exploring. Its abhidhamma is so awesome scientific in explaining mind & materiality that even my uni research problems got answered. It took 1mile electron gun to smash up an atom to only get photon & some gamma, alpha, belta rays. But Abhidhamma explain what’s inside that smallest possible particle science yet to breakdown. And its all done 2500yrs ago by a Indian enlightened being, The Buddha.

    I believe in taking my life & future in own hand, so anything depending on unknown gods is not for me, don’t want a surprise in death to wow where is that damn god i worshipped for lifetime paying 10% tax dutifully…. and he don’t even exist or has a worst temper than me, blowing fire from nostrils ready to burn the world….

    Its always some who find emptiness in life that need an unknown unseen being to fill up that vacuum fear, and brotherhood in church is what they needs for loneliness & social network benefits that my siblings exploit for biz….damn xtian for biz opportunities. Pay small donation for bigger biz return…. hehehehe

    • Replies: @Talha
  317. denk says:
    @TT

    What happens if I was persona non grata at the ST long time ago ?

    To let you in on the extent of fukusI control,
    The name Barry Wain once appeared on the ST editorial board, right at the top !

    Does that name rings a bell to you ?
    Wain was the rabid anti Chinese editor of the rabid anti Chinese WARSJ !

    Some how that was his only exposure, never seen his name re-appeared from then on !

    A Freudian slip perhaps ?

    hehehhehe

  318. Thomm says:
    @DB Cooper

    Again, you are so out of touch with reality that it is beneath me to educate you.

    As bad as America’s media is, Americans are far less vulnerable to brainwashing. On the other hand, your brainwashing about China is total.

    Here is a ranking of how countries are perceived by the US (again). It reveals that the US public is mostly knowledgeable and fair :

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/181961/canada-great-britain-americans-favored-nations.aspx

    I would LOVE for you to spend your life telling Americans that China is so benign and never invaded Tibet. Let’s see how far you get.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  319. DB Cooper says:
    @Thomm

    Here is the thing. Certain quarters of the West invent this ‘China invaded Tibet’ nonsense for their geopolitical reasons. Chinese people everywhere (mainland, Hong Kong, Taiwan, overseas) reject this accusations so naturally they are defensive about it. But why are Indians so fond of propagating and insisting this kind of nonsense? After all India does not a dog in the fight whether Tibet was part of China or not. Actually it does. It is India that is occupying a piece of Tibetan homeland and by propagating this kind of nonsense it puts China in the defense and obfuscate the fact that it is India (and its former master the Raj) that has invaded Tibet.

    In 1951, four years after the Raj has left the subcontinent, India invaded and annexed Tawang and complete the annexation of South Tibet. Tawang is the birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to a four hundred years old Tibetan monastery. In 1987 India renamed South Tibet to the so called Arunachal Pradesh and made it a state. South Tibet is a United Nation recognized disputed territory, besides Kashmir.

    South Tibet is currently under India’s brutal occupation and the resentment there are very high and India knows it. This is the reason India imposed the notorious AFSPA (Armed Force Special Power Act) on South Tibet. AFSPA gives the state the power to detain or kill anyone with impunity. It is designed to intimidate the locals and suppress dissents. Tibetan girls in South Tibet are raped by the Indian occupiers there at a alarmingly high rate. In fact it got so bad that last months two Indian rapists were dragged out of the prison in occupied South Tibet and lynched by a mob of thousands of people.

    Free South Tibet!

    • Replies: @TT
  320. TT says:
    @DB Cooper

    Now you understand why sometimes we don’t bother to explain truth to drones, only FukusInd msm sewage/cow dung is their only diet, regurgitate every where. You gave honey they will vomit, as denk said.

    Dalai Lama & his military men are still dreaming of liberating its Northern kins that enjoy FSR, free housing & prosperity, while stay down on their own southern poor kins getting rape & massacre by their master, Indians of course. How hypocrite.

    Dalai Lama & his mens are CIA stooges as US declassified docu revealed for subversion to China, involving politics & power, secession, this certainly is not a Buddhist Monk by any measure.

    China gov is correct to point him out as wolf in sheep skin. Sorry, wolf & sheep are complaining im insulting them…

  321. Talha says:
    @TT

    And its all done 2500yrs ago by a Indian enlightened being, The Buddha.

    Yes, unfortunately, many modern-day people do not realize the value in the wisdom transmitted by the ancients.

    Its always some who find emptiness in life that need an unknown unseen being to fill up that vacuum fear, and brotherhood in church is what they needs for loneliness & social network benefits that my siblings exploit for biz

    Like I said, you seem to have found your answers – other Chinese are not satisfied with what they have found elsewhere so they are obviously looking for it in Christianity. Now you can deride it and say, well that’s not my cup of tea and I see no need for it, which is fine, which is why you aren’t Christian – but it’s working to fill those gaps in others. Those people have different priorities than you do – simple as that.

    Pay small donation for bigger biz return

    I have never trusted, nor would ever trust any religious leaders that constantly tell their flock to donate to them or their foundation and live up lavish lifestyles. Absolutely unacceptable.

    Peace.

  322. denk says:

    I dunno why Thomm keep posting that murikkan poll results ?

    All it shows is blood is thicker than water amongst the five eyes and their Indian brethens, cuz the Indians have displaced the jps as the ‘honorable whitey’.

    hehehehehe

  323. denk says:

    Thomm

    everyone in murikka knew about genocide in Tibet

    Not so fast, !
    Everyone in murikka was fed the cow dung about genocide in Tibet,
    fix it for Thomm !

    [Thats brainwashing by fabrication.]

    But they werent told about the real genocides going on in another Tibet in India, the chunk of Southern Tibet robbed by fukusI….

    The Tibet that no anglos wanna talk about….

    [brainwashing by omission.....]

    Meet Manipur’s iron lady, who started the world’s longest hunger strike in 2000, to protest the sadism of the AFSPA in the NE and Kashmir, a license to kill and rape with total impunity.

    https://www.countercurrents.org/hr-gatade171006.htm

  324. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    You seem to go out of your way in calling every body as he. Even when there is no way everybody is a he.

    Why?

  325. Interesting debate on India and Tibet. I’ll have to look into the situation in Arunchal Pradesh more, but to deny that China invaded Tibet and is gradually destroying their culture is hard to deny. The various Chinese dynasties didn’t control Tibet until the Qing dynasty, and even then they lost control of it until Mao re invaded.

    redpillindian.blogspot.com

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    , @Daniel Chieh
  326. Highly recommended:

    Reshmi Dutt-Ballerstadt, “Are You Supporting White Supremacy?” Inside Higher Ed, January 12, 2018, https://www.insidehighered.com/advice/2018/01/12/checklist-determine-if-you-are-supporting-white-supremacy-opinion

  327. DB Cooper says:
    @Red Pill Indian

    “…but to deny that China invaded Tibet and is gradually destroying their culture is hard to deny”

    Only Indians and gullible people will say that China invaded Tibet. Mainstream scholar don’t buy this kind of nonsense. Indian has a stake in this allegation because by insisting China invaded Tibet it obfuscate the fact that it is India that invaded Tibet and is still occuping a piece of Tibetan homeland (South Tibet, so called Arunacha Pradesh) to this day.

    There is no rhyme or reason for China to deny Tibetan culture. It just doesn’t make sense. Actually Tibetan culture has seen a revival for the past couple of decades as China became more prosperous.

    India has been bullying and land grabbing every single of its neighbors since its creation in 1947 because it wants to be the new imperial power in the block just like its former master the Raj. The bullied became the bully herself. This is the reason why India is hated by all its smaller neighbors.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @Anon
  328. @Red Pill Indian

    Tibetan culture regularly involved cutting off hands, sewing up people in yak skins, and kicking them off the mountain as recounted even by a friendly source(Seven Years in Tibet). It was a miserable feudal slavery that is only worthwhile when mollified by civilization.

    And technically Tibet has been part of China since the Yuan.

  329. @DB Cooper

    There is no rhyme or reason for China to deny Tibetan culture. It just doesn’t make sense. Actually Tibetan culture has seen a revival for the past couple of decades as China became more prosperous.

    There’s a remarkable lack of “holy people” being carried on the backs of peasants now and monks raping the girls of the village. What a terrible reduction of Tibetan culture!

  330. Anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @DB Cooper

    India is not just been hated by all its neighbors, even by every other countries its people and government touched, in US, UK, Saudi, Africa, Myanmar, Singapore, etc. It has no money or trade for anyone with its poor economy & corrupted politicians, only mass export of people WMM. But many are not well qualified, and with fake certification.

    Singapore has been arm twisted into signing unfair treaties with India & US, so now flooded with massive Indians without ability to control. These Indians are not good quality that US is getting, but of fake certificates and resume. Many were caught after a big chain of fake certificates & resume referral one man shops were exposed in an investigation done in India by Spore. Yet nothing can be done.

    They are also very violent drunkards. Little India riot was a shocking event to all Sporean, but its traitor PM Lee Hsien Loon who signed all the India & US unfair FTAs, aka Unfair Treaty like China Qing Dynasty signed, is personally abusing his PM power to heavily suppressing it by Gagg order to deny MSM mentioning of India talents riot.

    Now its fake doctors are also creeping into the hospitals too. In past, no India trained Dr is admissible & recognized due to its extremely low standard. They started to sneak in through US John Hopkin who illegally bring in them into NUS Hospital, which local Drs complaint to no avail. Then they do it openly through the unfair Agreement & threat of tariffs now.

    The unfair treaty signed also allowed India & US to buy up many Spore prime properties at no stamp duty that every Sporeans & other nationality foreigners have to pay. So they can buy at cheaper price up to 7‰~11% stamp duty free, while renting out these properties to both Sprean & expatriates, depriving Sporean rental market & property investment.

    The government sectors are also abnormally staffed with Indians, from airborned drop inexperienced low grade Indians into Cabinet ministers, parliament members, High court & chief Judges, state ministers, Monetary Authority of Spore Chief, Spore biggest bank DBS CEO,…The political power, Home Affairs Ministry, Judicial, Economy & Finance, Banking, IT are all Indianized out of proportion. And some don’t look like local breed Indians.

    In tribalism, they started replacing locals & employed entirely India people, also bring in their India unqualified kins & families in massively to work without visa restriction, causing protest that lead to gov try to restrict such inflow. But India has threatened with trade tariffs if Spore not obliged.

    US has successfully subjugated Spore into Little India Island at Malacca Strait, to choke the China marine trade route. USN & recently India Navy have gained Spore Navy Base usage. US anti Submarines planes also started to use SAF airport. These are all against Spore international standing of non alliance treaty. PM LHL probably has something been blackmailed into doing all these treason to help US contained China.

    Malaysia is similarly under CIA coordinated Black Shirt spring attacked & well teamed up opposition parties to bring down its pro-China pro-business PM Najib. Other Asean countries are also under various meddling, all to counter China.

    Here’s news on the Unfair treaty & some Sporean comments in uncensored independent site. Many independent sites are removed by new laws, and now gov is forming a Fake News Committee to further tighten. So US, UK, EU msm are not alone been manipulated, its widespread.

    http://www.theindependent.sg/was-pm-lee-completely-outsmarted-by-the-indians/

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  331. DB Cooper says:
    @Anon

    Most of the Indian H1B in the US have fake credentials also, not just Singapore. Seems like India’s way of fighting poverty is to export it to other countries and then tell the gullible people of these first world countries that they are lucky to have these ‘smart’ Indians. More and more people in the West have woken up to these scammers. There is a huge backlash against the H1B talents scam artists in the US. If Indians are so great, how come the country is a $hithole?

  332. Anon[107] • Disclaimer says:

    India alone is not capable of doing all these arm twisting to so many Western developed countries. All these leaders aren’t stupid, nor India trade is so large or so talented that they need to give up own country sovereign, security & prosperity for its low grade “talents” caught with fake certificates.

    There are nothing to buy from India, nor anything much to sell or invest for good profit there if you visit. Its simply so poor, corrupted, backward, high debts, negligible export, no resources, high trade deficit, with fake GDP growth data. It only has one thing, 1.4B majority illiterate human beings reproducing like rabbits.

    The US deep states is most suspicious behind all these manipulation of massive Indians & rapefugees movement. After 911, Spore gov was “forced” to do many unreported treason acts in rush without parliament debate or disclosure.

    Our Credit Bureau SCB was formed abruptly by a unknown US private company, who collect & decide every Sporean credit eligibility for bank loan & credit card for post 911 reason. Only when rejected by bank, many realized they were blacklisted by this shoddy Bureau wrongly. So they need to pay SCB for a report, and tried to pay to reinstate…onus on victim. Visa & Master cards controlled entire payment system & hence a tax regime for Spore.

    Our very profitable public listed Natsteel with monopoly of high grade car scraped steel(many expensive cars are scraped less than 10yrs) was forcefully sold at ridiculous low price(at 2yrs profit amount) to India Tata, together with UK, Fr,..all started selling their steel industries to India Tata for countering China steel industry. When one Sporean tycoon tried to compete with higher offering, all banks blocked his credit line spectacularly.

    Singapore Post, another highly profitable state monopoly entity, was suddenly fire sale to Oz in name of US need to control global mails. It then converted to a pressure sales scam company, harassing everyone trying to do simple mailing with insurance, loans, financial products..and it eventually control many gov services, beyond gov regulation.

    Australia owned Western Union make big inroad into Spore $B remittance industry in name of money laundering control. Its biggest remittance agency now. Then money grams loan scam company. Then its inroad to $B local pawn shop business…

    NOL, Spore biggest shipping company sold away its most profitable US Eagle shipping arm to US at fire sale price(in US post 911 security reason again). Eventually, it also make a overall loss without profitable arms, and sold itself too.

    Holland Mersk shipping(No.1 biggest) demand Spore to give it the world busiest port, threatened to cut its present in Spore (5% of total shipping) & run a competing ports in Malaysia Pasir Gudang if not oblige. Taiwan Allgreen (No.2) suddenly join the Msia port. Another follow(Fr?). Fortunately China Cosco offered it helps, and become a share holder to resist the takeover of Spore strategic port by a absurd shipping line. Pasir Gudang then proved to be a failure, and they tried to move back to Spore docks.

    There are more ridiculous things undisclosed. All mayors were investing $B of their sinking funds, retirement pensions fund CPF, souvenir funds of GIC, massively in US scam investments like Lehman Brothers & City Bank at peak prior to their collapse. Gov controlled DBS & OCBC, many foreign banks were cheating many old folks & unaware savers of their life savings to buy US investment products without gov reprisal.

    Only one private owned UOB bank refused to sell these US products as they were deemed scandalous unsound. Lot of money to prop up US financial market before it collapsed. But gov silent it without single person been charged or disclosure of total disastrous loss to Spore till today.

    The apex of all, make a Tudong wearing Female Indian Muslim to be our only candidate eligible for President Election by changing Constitution laws immediately to mandatory for Malay race as President. When challenge of her race, gov change her ID card race to Malay though her parents are Indian & Chinese ethnics. Other (Arabs & Pakistani migrants!!!)candidates were rejected eligibility for not been financial savvy CEO of a min $500M revenue company, but this Indian Pres has zero experience in financial.

    Its beyond any sane politicians rationale act, like what are happening in US & UK now, all gone circus clown shows competing to perform in hysteria and destroying own country.

    India is just a foolish pawn and canon fodder in this Geopolitics game to counter China rise. When it grows fat enough, it will be similarly slaughtered. US deep state has overwhelming power through controlling US hedgmon, cannibalizing itself too.

    Only China-Russia alliance can stop all these dark force from destroying the world by collapsing this evil axis of US-UK-Fr-Oz-Nato-India.

    • Replies: @Anon
  333. BamMan says:

    I am not too worried about them. Their fertility rate is below replacement level and their numbers are low. I know a couple of them from my university, one is even a muslim, and they are not very political and mind their own business. I didn’t even feel they were liberals, more center right. I think fertility rates and fewer H1B visas will take care of this. I am much more worried about latinos who favor the left and consequently could turn this country into a hell hole due to their huge numbers.

  334. Harjit says:

    Sorry this post lost credibility at this point.

    The most notable action Mr. Pichai [Tweet him] has taken as CEO: his decision to fire James Damore for noting that men and women are different

    As if this is the really the most notable task he’s done so far as CEO! I’m sure on a daily basis he has much bigger matters on his plate than the hiring or firing of an individual programmer.

  335. @Anonymous

    Pretty sure white males are the biggest rapists on the planet, they created entire new races out of rape: from the rape of the Sabine women, to the Goths, the Normans, the Spaniards and Portuguese, white slave masters in the US, NOBODY has raped more or been creepier than the white European male.
    Even today, the rate of rape is higher in Western nations than India, so much for your diatribe about Hindoos.
    India has plenty of art and culture that has captivated thousands of whites for centuries. Our architecture, music, etc. is proof of that. You must be absolutely retarded if you know nothing of pre-colonial Indian history, when India was many times richer and more powerful than England.

    • Replies: @Anon
  336. Anon[861] • Disclaimer says:
    @TT

    The last major centre of wealth and civilisation to exhibit such signs of wilful conceit and ignorance of the world was Imperial China. Can the USA learn the lessons China took more than 200 years to master?

  337. Anon[861] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ashurbanipal

    And 1. kept its riches in precious metals, jewels and luxury goods
    2. Burned widows
    3. Maintained a caste system that would have made Moses’s genocidal crew ashamed…

  338. Anon[861] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I started reading this with interest to see if I could learn something and have been forced to conclude that the writer is so deluded that nothing he or she says can be taken as true. First test was when reference to “Australia owned Western Union” caught my eye. Total BS. Western Union has had a murky history but it has nothing to do with Australia. Then there was the sale of Singapore Post to “Oz”. Again total BS. The biggest shareholder is still the Singapore state and the second Alibaba!

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