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Consider, if you will, these two indisputable facts. First, the United States is today more or less permanently engaged in hostilities in not one faraway place, but at least seven. Second, the vast majority of the American people could not care less.

Nor can it be said that we don’t care because we don’t know. True, government authorities withhold certain aspects of ongoing military operations or release only details that they find convenient. Yet information describing what U.S. forces are doing (and where) is readily available, even if buried in recent months by barrages of presidential tweets. Here, for anyone interested, are press releases issued by United States Central Command for just one recent week:

September 19: Military airstrikes continue against ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq

September 20: Military airstrikes continue against ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq

Iraqi Security Forces begin Hawijah offensive

September 21: Military airstrikes continue against ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq

September 22: Military airstrikes continue against ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq

September 23: Military airstrikes continue against ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq

Operation Inherent Resolve Casualty

September 25: Military airstrikes continue against ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq

September 26: Military airstrikes continue against ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq

Ever since the United States launched its war on terror, oceans of military press releases have poured forth. And those are just for starters. To provide updates on the U.S. military’s various ongoing campaigns, generals, admirals, and high-ranking defense officials regularly testify before congressional committees or brief members of the press. From the field, journalists offer updates that fill in at least some of the details — on civilian casualties, for example — that government authorities prefer not to disclose. Contributors to newspaper op-ed pages and “experts” booked by network and cable TV news shows, including passels of retired military officers, provide analysis. Trailing behind come books and documentaries that put things in a broader perspective.

But here’s the truth of it. None of it matters.

Like traffic jams or robocalls, war has fallen into the category of things that Americans may not welcome, but have learned to live with. In twenty-first-century America, war is not that big a deal.

While serving as defense secretary in the 1960s, Robert McNamara once mused that the “greatest contribution” of the Vietnam War might have been to make it possible for the United States “to go to war without the necessity of arousing the public ire.” With regard to the conflict once widely referred to as McNamara’s War, his claim proved grotesquely premature. Yet a half-century later, his wish has become reality.

Why do Americans today show so little interest in the wars waged in their name and at least nominally on their behalf? Why, as our wars drag on and on, doesn’t the disparity between effort expended and benefits accrued arouse more than passing curiosity or mild expressions of dismay? Why, in short, don’t we give a [expletive deleted]?

Perhaps just posing such a question propels us instantly into the realm of the unanswerable, like trying to figure out why people idolize Justin Bieber, shoot birds, or watch golf on television.

Without any expectation of actually piercing our collective ennui, let me take a stab at explaining why we don’t give a @#$%&! Here are eight distinctive but mutually reinforcing explanations, offered in a sequence that begins with the blindingly obvious and ends with the more speculative.

Americans don’t attend all that much to ongoing American wars because:

1. U.S. casualty rates are low. By using proxies and contractors, and relying heavily on airpower, America’s war managers have been able to keep a tight lid on the number of U.S. troops being killed and wounded. In all of 2017, for example, a grand total of 11 American soldiers have been lost in Afghanistan — about equal to the number of shooting deaths in Chicago over the course of a typical week. True, in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other countries where the U.S. is engaged in hostilities, whether directly or indirectly, plenty of people who are not Americans are being killed and maimed. (The estimated number of Iraqi civilians killed this year alone exceeds 12,000.) But those casualties have next to no political salience as far as the United States is concerned. As long as they don’t impede U.S. military operations, they literally don’t count (and generally aren’t counted).

2. The true costs of Washington’s wars go untabulated. In a famous speech, dating from early in his presidency, Dwight D. Eisenhower said that “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.” Dollars spent on weaponry, Ike insisted, translated directly into schools, hospitals, homes, highways, and power plants that would go unbuilt. “This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense,” he continued. “[I]t is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.” More than six decades later, Americans have long since accommodated themselves to that cross of iron. Many actually see it as a boon, a source of corporate profits, jobs, and, of course, campaign contributions. As such, they avert their eyes from the opportunity costs of our never-ending wars. The dollars expended pursuant to our post-9/11 conflicts will ultimately number in the multi-trillions. Imagine the benefits of investing such sums in upgrading the nation’s aging infrastructure. Yet don’t count on Congressional leaders, other politicians, or just about anyone else to pursue that connection.

3. On matters related to war, American citizens have opted out. Others have made the point so frequently that it’s the equivalent of hearing “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer” at Christmastime. Even so, it bears repeating: the American people have defined their obligation to “support the troops” in the narrowest imaginable terms, ensuring above all that such support requires absolutely no sacrifice on their part. Members of Congress abet this civic apathy, while also taking steps to insulate themselves from responsibility. In effect, citizens and their elected representatives in Washington agree: supporting the troops means deferring to the commander in chief, without inquiring about whether what he has the troops doing makes the slightest sense. Yes, we set down our beers long enough to applaud those in uniform and boo those who decline to participate in mandatory rituals of patriotism. What we don’t do is demand anything remotely approximating actual accountability.

4. Terrorism gets hyped and hyped and hyped some more. While international terrorism isn’t a trivial problem (and wasn’t for decades before 9/11), it comes nowhere close to posing an existential threat to the United States. Indeed, other threats, notably the impact of climate change, constitute a far greater danger to the wellbeing of Americans. Worried about the safety of your children or grandchildren? The opioid epidemic constitutes an infinitely greater danger than “Islamic radicalism.” Yet having been sold a bill of goods about a “war on terror” that is essential for “keeping America safe,” mere citizens are easily persuaded that scattering U.S. troops throughout the Islamic world while dropping bombs on designated evildoers is helping win the former while guaranteeing the latter. To question that proposition becomes tantamount to suggesting that God might not have given Moses two stone tablets after all.

5. Blather crowds out substance. When it comes to foreign policy, American public discourse is — not to put too fine a point on it — vacuous, insipid, and mindlessly repetitive. William Safire of the New York Times once characterized American political rhetoric as BOMFOG, with those running for high office relentlessly touting the Brotherhood of Man and the Fatherhood of God. Ask a politician, Republican or Democrat, to expound on this country’s role in the world, and then brace yourself for some variant of WOSFAD, as the speaker insists that it is incumbent upon the World’s Only Superpower to spread Freedom and Democracy. Terms like leadership and indispensable are introduced, along with warnings about the dangers of isolationism and appeasement, embellished with ominous references to Munich. Such grandiose posturing makes it unnecessary to probe too deeply into the actual origins and purposes of American wars, past or present, or assess the likelihood of ongoing wars ending in some approximation of actual success. Cheerleading displaces serious thought.

6. Besides, we’re too busy. Think of this as a corollary to point five. Even if the present-day American political scene included figures like Senators Robert La Follette or J. William Fulbright, who long ago warned against the dangers of militarizing U.S. policy, Americans may not retain a capacity to attend to such critiques. Responding to the demands of the Information Age is not, it turns out, conducive to deep reflection. We live in an era (so we are told) when frantic multitasking has become a sort of duty and when being overscheduled is almost obligatory. Our attention span shrinks and with it our time horizon. The matters we attend to are those that happened just hours or minutes ago. Yet like the great solar eclipse of 2017 — hugely significant and instantly forgotten — those matters will, within another few minutes or hours, be superseded by some other development that briefly captures our attention. As a result, a dwindling number of Americans — those not compulsively checking Facebook pages and Twitter accounts — have the time or inclination to ponder questions like: When will the Afghanistan War end? Why has it lasted almost 16 years? Why doesn’t the finest fighting force in history actually win? Can’t package an answer in 140 characters or a 30-second made-for-TV sound bite? Well, then, slowpoke, don’t expect anyone to attend to what you have to say.

7. Anyway, the next president will save us. At regular intervals, Americans indulge in the fantasy that, if we just install the right person in the White House, all will be well. Ambitious politicians are quick to exploit this expectation. Presidential candidates struggle to differentiate themselves from their competitors, but all of them promise in one way or another to wipe the slate clean and Make America Great Again. Ignoring the historical record of promises broken or unfulfilled, and presidents who turn out not to be deities but flawed human beings, Americans — members of the media above all — pretend to take all this seriously. Campaigns become longer, more expensive, more circus-like, and ever less substantial. One might think that the election of Donald Trump would prompt a downward revision in the exalted expectations of presidents putting things right. Instead, especially in the anti-Trump camp, getting rid of Trump himself (Collusion! Corruption! Obstruction! Impeachment!) has become the overriding imperative, with little attention given to restoring the balance intended by the framers of the Constitution. The irony of Trump perpetuating wars that he once roundly criticized and then handing the conduct of those wars to generals devoid of ideas for ending them almost entirely escapes notice.

8. Our culturally progressive military has largely immunized itself from criticism. As recently as the 1990s, the U.S. military establishment aligned itself with the retrograde side of the culture wars. Who can forget the gays-in-the-military controversy that rocked Bill Clinton’s administration during his first weeks in office, as senior military leaders publicly denounced their commander-in-chief? Those days are long gone. Culturally, the armed forces have moved left. Today, the services go out of their way to project an image of tolerance and a commitment to equality on all matters related to race, gender, and sexuality. So when President Trump announced his opposition to transgendered persons serving in the armed forces, tweeting that the military “cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail,” senior officers politely but firmly disagreed and pushed back. Given the ascendency of cultural issues near the top of the U.S. political agenda, the military’s embrace of diversity helps to insulate it from criticism and from being called to account for a less than sterling performance in waging wars. Put simply, critics who in an earlier day might have blasted military leaders for their inability to bring wars to a successful conclusion hold their fire. Having women graduate from Ranger School or command Marines in combat more than compensates for not winning.

A collective indifference to war has become an emblem of contemporary America. But don’t expect your neighbors down the street or the editors of the New York Times to lose any sleep over that fact. Even to notice it would require them — and us — to care.

Andrew J. Bacevich, a TomDispatch regular, is the author, most recently, of America’s War for the Greater Middle East: A Military History.

(Republished from TomDispatch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Dan Hayes says:

    You have enumerated ten general reasons why Americans “don’t attend” to ongoing wars.

    Let me add a further specific one: the draft or lack of same. If there were a draft in place either the powers-that-be would not even dare to contemplate any of our present martial misadventures, or failing that the outraged citizenry would burn down the Congress!

    BTW I had never thought about reason #8: the military’s embrace of diversity helps to insulate it from criticism. This explains General Casey’s inane statement that diversity shouldn’t be a casualty of the Fort Hood massacre by a “diverse” officer!

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    Agreed: "If there were a draft in place ....."

    Not only that, how about total, gender-neutral, compulsory service, with military or alternative service and civilian reserve. [See Swiss and Swedish conscription for example.] This suggestion has rendered me even more deplorable with my progressive friends.
    , @Don Bacon
    Yes, lack of a draft is a key factor. A principal reason of why the US had to end the Vietnam conflict, opting out with diplomatic cover, was that the Army was "broken" with drug use, mission refusal and the fragging (killing) of superiors. "FTA" didn't mean fun travel and adventure any more, it meant F*** The Army.
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  2. One reason Trump won is that he promised to pull back the empire, while suggesting the Pentagon already has plenty of money. After the election, he demanded a 10% increase, and threatens North Korea to justify it! This increase alone is bigger than the entire annual military budget of Russia! The public is informed that this is because of cuts during the Obama years, but there were no cuts, only limits to increases.

    How did the Democrats react? Most voted for a bigger military budget than the mindless increase proposed by Trump! That news was not reported by our corporate media, as Jimmy Dore explained:

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    • Replies: @conatus
    We spend 10 times more on the military than the feared Russians.

    Wikipedia List of countries ranked by military expenditures
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
    , @Wally
    Also, Obama actually increased the funding beyond what the military was asking for, Obama sent in more troops to more countries, bombed & 'droned' more countries than Bush.

    And to think, Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Orwellian.
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  3. Miro23 says:

    A collective indifference to war has become an emblem of contemporary America.

    Well, yes, the US has recently killed 100.000′s of Arab civilians because they were Terrorists (?) or to Bring them Democracy (?) or whatever, or something – or who cares anyway. There’s more coverage of the transgender toilet access question.

    So who are Mr & Mrs Indifferent, the emblems of contemporary America? https://www.yahoo.com/news/29-couples-boudoir-photos-almost-172445904.html?.tsrc=fauxdal – Thanks to Priss

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  4. Structurally, you have arms production, military bases, hospitals, and related service industries across nearly all the congressional districts in the country.

    So it is an enormous set of vested interests with both voting power and corporate money for campaign treasuries.

    Quoting Ike was good, and he mentions the opportunity cost in schools, roads, etc. – but also the organizing political and economic power of the military industrial complex.

    The government schools are with some exceptions worthless. No subject, let alone war, is taken on seriously.

    The legacy media has been co-opted by the MIC/Financial interests. The state is spying on everyone and everyone knows so. Free speech, free association, free assembly, right to bear arms, confront your accuser, trial by jury, habeas corpus – all gone now.

    So the sheep behave. They walk by the dead whistling, and look straight ahead.

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    WAR SOCIALISM!

    IT'S A GAS!
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  5. Art says:

    This article is mendacity – 10 reasons for American wars and not one of them Jews or Israel!

    Shame shame!

    No mention of the Jew controlled media fear mongering – no mention, that all peace movements are frozen out by the Jew media culture.

    No mention of the Jew controlled congress, that can only agree on one thing – 100% for wars for Israel.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. No mention that every US general supports Israel or he is culled out of the service.

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    • Replies: @Quartermaster
    There have been Arabists among the General and Flag Officers. McMaster, as one example, is an Arab sympathizer.
    , @jacques sheete
    Art, the article is spot on and is excellent. The problem is us. No need to blame the other guy. If we gave a collective damn and weren't so gullible, the jackals among us would get nowhere, or at least they'd have a much tougher go of it.
    , @nsa
    Bacevich is part of the problem.....a serial liar by ommission. Just come out and say it:...
    THE TRAITOROUS AMERICAN JOOIES WANT THESE WARS DESTROYING MUZZIE COUNTRIES. The relentlessly conniving self-serving jooies own or control vile ZioVision, publishing, media, entertainment, much of the internet, finance, and all of the pols of both parties........so they get their wars. It's as simple as that.
    , @yeah
    A brilliant analysis, which has clearly gone over your head, because all you do is obsess about your hate of jews. Can you think of anything slightly more original than "the jews did it"?
    , @Wally
    Bingo!

    Ah yes, the current leftist / Zionist uproar at Trump's rebuke of the 'kneelers'.

    Imagine their uproar if the US Congress refused to stand for Israel's Netanyahu.

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    America's Jews Are Driving America's Wars
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2012898

    Why I Still Dislike Israel
    Netanyahu Should Leave Us Alone as a New Year's Present
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/why-i-still-dislike-israel/

    The Dancing Israelis
    Trump was right about 9/11 but they weren't Muslims
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-dancing-israelis/

    Israel's Dirty Little Secret
    How it drives US policies exploiting a spineless Congress and White House
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-dirty-little-secret/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room
    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/
    , @El Dato
    The druggie cannot really accuse the needle for his ill situation though.
    , @Moi
    BINGO!!!
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  6. Craig says:

    Going well until the bit about “climate change”.

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  7. While serving as defense secretary in the 1960s, Robert McNamara once mused that the “greatest contribution” of the Vietnam War might have been to make it possible for the United States “to go to war without the necessity of arousing the public ire.” With regard to the conflict once widely referred to as McNamara’s War, his claim proved grotesquely premature. Yet a half-century later, his wish has become reality.

    He was dead wrong about this in the 60′s as it soon became obvious to everyone else. But we learned how “to go to war without the necessity of arousing the public ire.” Cut out the military draft and embed the press into the ranks so they dare not report the actions they witness.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

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  8. “the military’s embrace of diversity helps to insulate it from criticism and from being called to account for a less than sterling performance in waging wars. ”
    By diversity let’s specify identity politics.
    And thus – we can see how concepts such as “left” & “right” need to be used – now – with some caution.
    When an entity such as the US military which would traditionally be considered “of the right”
    warmly embraces such “obviously” Left practices as Identity Politics, you know something…smells.
    The US military: the cutting edge of US imperialism, the same “military industrial complex” that has been at the heart of US capitalism since 1945 worries for the transgendered …?
    My conclusion is there is no real Left…left — where Left is used as a signifier of, at least, some kind of opposition to the status quo.
    The “opposition” IS the status quo. It is a cosmetic applied to bamboozle what used to be called “yuppies”. Those useful idiots ….

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    And thus – we can see how concepts such as “left” & “right” need to be used – now – with some caution.
     
    True, and it's been apparent for some time.

    My conclusion is there is no real Left…left — where Left is used as a signifier of, at least, some kind of opposition to the status quo.
     
    It was infiltrated, subverted, perverted, and co-opted long ago.

    I think what happened is that we've all been pretty much bought off. We're too comfortable and the ideas of liberty are now nothing more than quaint, expired oddities subject not to consideration and action, but to ridicule.


    What happened to Liberalism? Why then did it decline during the nineteenth century? This question has been pondered many times, but perhaps the basic reason was an inner rot within the vitals of Liberalism itself. For, with the partial success of the Liberal Revolution in the West, the Liberals increasingly abandoned their radical fervor, and therefore their liberal goals, to rest content with a mere defense of the uninspiring and defective status quo. Two philosophical roots of this decay may be discerned: First, the abandonment of natural rights and "higher law" theory for utilitarianism.

    -Murray N. Rothbard, War and Foreign PolicyWorld HistoryPhilosophy and MethodologyPolitical Theory, [Originally appeared in Left and Right, Spring 1965, pp. 4-22.]
    https://mises.org/library/left-and-right-prospects-liberty

     

    , @jacques sheete
    It seems to me that you may have some interest in this article which I find full of fascinating points.

    It is almost 10,000 words, but well worth the effort, I think.

    https://mises.org/library/rothbards-left-and-right-forty-years-later
     
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  9. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Why, in short, don’t we give a [expletive deleted]?

    The most obvious reason, that these endless wars are benefiting Israel, was left out. Why is that, are you fearful you’ll get the ‘axe’ like Mr. Giraldi and get fired from your job for stating a truth about the occupation of the USG?
    The MSM, by and large a Jewish operation, doens’t give us the real news about these endless wars, instead focusing on war propaganda, like plastering across the front page a heart-touching photo of a little girl being reunited with her warrior Daddy in front of a football stadium crowd, instead of showing us the gruesome trail of broken bodies and busted-up homes Daddy helped create.

    Many seasoned experts believe that without the influence of the Israel Lobby, particularly as exerted by the Jewish Neoconservatives, the United States would not have been at war in the Middle East and North Africa for the last 16 years. These wars have done nothing for the US but harm, and they have cost taxpayers trillions of dollars and caused extensive death and destruction in seven countries and a massive refugee flow into Europe.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47956.htm

    And until we take back our govt from these Israeli and American Jew war mongers, the wars will continue for decades or until our economy, burdened by so much war debt, crashes and never recovers.

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  10. Jake says:

    We are the British Empire 2.0. It is a given that (A) our Elites easily and fully would ally with Jews against the best interests of the vast majority of white Christians, and that (B) we would make war across the globe forever (until we go bankrupt or are destroyed from within by the blacks and Moslems our Elites dearly love), and we will preach our global warring as bringing peace, fairness, and equality to all.

    Amen.

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    • Replies: @anonymous

    ...until we go bankrupt or are destroyed from within...
    :
    Amen.
     
    Amen. Indeed.

    Only, the destruction will be primarily because of your kind's decadence, immorality and spiritual bankruptcy.

    Simply placing all blame on blacks and "Moslems," will ensure that you continue on your current delusionally destructive path, which is good.

    One of the major populations of Hell will be from your polytheist civilisation.
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  11. conatus says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    One reason Trump won is that he promised to pull back the empire, while suggesting the Pentagon already has plenty of money. After the election, he demanded a 10% increase, and threatens North Korea to justify it! This increase alone is bigger than the entire annual military budget of Russia! The public is informed that this is because of cuts during the Obama years, but there were no cuts, only limits to increases.

    How did the Democrats react? Most voted for a bigger military budget than the mindless increase proposed by Trump! That news was not reported by our corporate media, as Jimmy Dore explained:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qitAZcorCe0

    We spend 10 times more on the military than the feared Russians.

    Wikipedia List of countries ranked by military expenditures

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

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  12. @Art
    This article is mendacity – 10 reasons for American wars and not one of them Jews or Israel!

    Shame shame!

    No mention of the Jew controlled media fear mongering - no mention, that all peace movements are frozen out by the Jew media culture.

    No mention of the Jew controlled congress, that can only agree on one thing - 100% for wars for Israel.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. No mention that every US general supports Israel or he is culled out of the service.

    There have been Arabists among the General and Flag Officers. McMaster, as one example, is an Arab sympathizer.

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    "Arabists."
     
    So we have a new bogeyman, I see.

    I wonder why.

    Note the date, and note also that we've been screwing them ever since. Seems to me WE are THEIR bogeymen.


    CAIRO, Egypt, May 27,[1922]—The last hope of 30,000,000 Arabs to win freedom for their race without further bloodshed vanished when cables from Washington announced that the United States had concluded an agreement with Great Britain… The Arabs came into the war on the side of the allies against their Turkish co-religionists in- response to the allies’ promise of freedom…The Arab support “was determined and effective.”

    Newspaper article by Junius B. Wood on the American recognition of Britain's mandate in Palestine, Chicago Daily News,27 May 1922 (also The Sunday Star, Washington)

    http://dcollections.oberlin.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/kingcrane/id/1686/rec/18

     

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  13. @Art
    This article is mendacity – 10 reasons for American wars and not one of them Jews or Israel!

    Shame shame!

    No mention of the Jew controlled media fear mongering - no mention, that all peace movements are frozen out by the Jew media culture.

    No mention of the Jew controlled congress, that can only agree on one thing - 100% for wars for Israel.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. No mention that every US general supports Israel or he is culled out of the service.

    Art, the article is spot on and is excellent. The problem is us. No need to blame the other guy. If we gave a collective damn and weren’t so gullible, the jackals among us would get nowhere, or at least they’d have a much tougher go of it.

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    • Replies: @Greg Bacon
    What about those who have tried to push back from this subversion of govt?

    Mr. Giraldi spoke the truth and was fired. Ditto for Rick Sanchez and Helen Thomas. They even fired one of their own when Joel Stein of the LA Times mentioned that Jews are in control of the media.

    Right now, there is a bill in Congress that would equate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism, making it VERBOTEN and the offending writer or speaker in for jail time and a huge fine. Whose backing this gutting of the First Amendment? AIPAC.

    Even this anemic comment here at 'UNZ" would be liable to get me and Mr. Unz in trouble, for merely exercising my Right to free speech.

    Last Fall, Americans elected a candidate who promised to get us out of these endless wars and 'drain the swamp.'
    After getting elected, what does he do? Starts hiring Swamp creature for cabinet posts and takes on more Jewish advisors than any previous US president. Not only is Trump not ending these Wars for Israel, he's looking to start two more.

    Alt Right people try to march and get savagely attacked by Antifa thugs. The Alt Right ones that got arrested got hit with felony charges and NO Bail while the Jewish-led Antifa thugs only got charged with misdemeanors.

    President Kennedy said that those who make peaceful protest impossible are asking for a violent revolution and I believe that is where we're at.
    , @JVC
    the biggest problem with "us" is that we have let the USG take over the education of our children, and very few of us do anything to counter the brain numbing curriculum our children are indoctrinated with. No longer do our government schools teach anything about problem solving, or (heaven forbid) rational and creative thinking. The younger generations are taught nothing more than rote repetition and obedience to authority. Any child who exhibits any qualities other than that, or show any signs of being outside the "box" are drugged to the point of complete submission, and stuffed into said box.

    The state plays the game of divide and conquer rather well, keeping the peeps stirred up against the "other", and distracted with "games" that the peeps do not even see the curtain between the reality of power and the illusion of "democracy" we are feed with, let alone ever thinking of looking behind that curtain. Yes, the problem is "us", and unfortunately, it is much too late for an election to change anything. The power is too embedded, and the majority of our elected "representatives" including the president do what they are told, or else. Anyone who challenges the deep state pays a price, often the ultimate price. The only thing would be freemen can hope for is that the economic collapse guaranteed by 20t+ indebtedness happens sooner than later.
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  14. @Quartermaster
    There have been Arabists among the General and Flag Officers. McMaster, as one example, is an Arab sympathizer.

    “Arabists.”

    So we have a new bogeyman, I see.

    I wonder why.

    Note the date, and note also that we’ve been screwing them ever since. Seems to me WE are THEIR bogeymen.

    CAIRO, Egypt, May 27,[1922]—The last hope of 30,000,000 Arabs to win freedom for their race without further bloodshed vanished when cables from Washington announced that the United States had concluded an agreement with Great Britain… The Arabs came into the war on the side of the allies against their Turkish co-religionists in- response to the allies’ promise of freedom…The Arab support “was determined and effective.”

    Newspaper article by Junius B. Wood on the American recognition of Britain’s mandate in Palestine, Chicago Daily News,27 May 1922 (also The Sunday Star, Washington)

    http://dcollections.oberlin.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/kingcrane/id/1686/rec/18

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    Not only this betrayal, America betrayed Turkey and Moro Muslim of Mindanao as well . USA asked Turkey to put pressure and use diplomacy on Muslim in Philippine so that they didn't join the resurrection with rest of the Philippine insurgency movement against the American . The suckers agreed and got screwed . Years later some bastard would gloat from the soil of America how American soldiers skewered the Moslem insurgents with bacon.

    ( Is there a pattern ? America enters treaties ,makes promises and then discards them on a regular basis . They sell stuff,take the money and then use their laws or create some laws and don't deliver the goods . Russia,Pakistan, NK,Iran ,Venezuela ,Cuba, Native Indians - yes all of them and more know it quite well )

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  15. TG says:

    I agree with much of what you say, but I think you are too critical of the American people.

    The primary reason Americans have ‘tuned out’ our endless winless pointless wars all over the globe, is that they realize that nothing they can do will make any difference.

    Trump was elected in large part because he said that instead of spending trillions of dollars killing goatherds on the other side of the world, we should spend that money on ourselves. The so-called ‘deplorables’ are far less bloodthirsty or militaristic than the corporate press presents. For a moment Trump looked like he was actually going to follow through – and the establishment squashed that pretty fast, culminating in his pointless missile attack on Syria.

    Nothing that the average American citizen says or does, matters. I mean Equifax just gave the personal financial information of over half the country to organized crime, and the response of our establishment is: tough luck. You’re on your own: maybe you should pay these same companies a hefty monthly fee to better safeguard your own data. The oligarchy does not care, and elections do not matter. So we’re tuning out.

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  16. Colonel Bacevich

    It’s Donald Trump’s MAGA!!! jobs program…while his spoiled rotten CHICKENHAWK -WARHAWK sons cut MEGA-BIZNESS $$$$$$$ deals in the Middle East…

    USMC General Smedley Butler…two time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner:”WAR IS A RACKET…”

    Colonel Bacevitch

    I drove past the USMC Sargeant Michael Esposito memorial on the LIE yesterday…..After I drove past it….I hit the button and the following tune began playing in my car:”Willie McGee”…Dropkick Murphy’s rendition…which I think is the best rendition…Go to you tube….

    BEHIND EVERY GREAT FORTUNE IS A GREAT CRIME!!!!!!

    “Willie McGee was only 17….when they lowered him down……..And they beat the drums slowly….”

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    Correction:The song is Willie McBride...Dropkick Murphy’s rendition..


    Willie McBride...17 Years Old from Armagh Ireland...laid to rest in France in 1915.....


    WAR IS A RACKET!!!!
    , @anonymous

    BEHIND EVERY GREAT FORTUNE IS A GREAT CRIME!!!!!!
     
    Ah, an epiphany moment, perhaps? The truth behind success of the western civilisation.

    Now, consider the wealth of the western civilisation. Then, imagine the crimes which were required to acquire it, and the ongoing crimes to maintain it.
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  17. @animalogic
    "the military’s embrace of diversity helps to insulate it from criticism and from being called to account for a less than sterling performance in waging wars. "
    By diversity let's specify identity politics.
    And thus - we can see how concepts such as "left" & "right" need to be used - now - with some caution.
    When an entity such as the US military which would traditionally be considered "of the right"
    warmly embraces such "obviously" Left practices as Identity Politics, you know something...smells.
    The US military: the cutting edge of US imperialism, the same "military industrial complex" that has been at the heart of US capitalism since 1945 worries for the transgendered ...?
    My conclusion is there is no real Left...left -- where Left is used as a signifier of, at least, some kind of opposition to the status quo.
    The "opposition" IS the status quo. It is a cosmetic applied to bamboozle what used to be called "yuppies". Those useful idiots ....

    And thus – we can see how concepts such as “left” & “right” need to be used – now – with some caution.

    True, and it’s been apparent for some time.

    My conclusion is there is no real Left…left — where Left is used as a signifier of, at least, some kind of opposition to the status quo.

    It was infiltrated, subverted, perverted, and co-opted long ago.

    I think what happened is that we’ve all been pretty much bought off. We’re too comfortable and the ideas of liberty are now nothing more than quaint, expired oddities subject not to consideration and action, but to ridicule.

    What happened to Liberalism? Why then did it decline during the nineteenth century? This question has been pondered many times, but perhaps the basic reason was an inner rot within the vitals of Liberalism itself. For, with the partial success of the Liberal Revolution in the West, the Liberals increasingly abandoned their radical fervor, and therefore their liberal goals, to rest content with a mere defense of the uninspiring and defective status quo. Two philosophical roots of this decay may be discerned: First, the abandonment of natural rights and “higher law” theory for utilitarianism.

    -Murray N. Rothbard, War and Foreign PolicyWorld HistoryPhilosophy and MethodologyPolitical Theory, [Originally appeared in Left and Right, Spring 1965, pp. 4-22.]

    https://mises.org/library/left-and-right-prospects-liberty

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  18. Pandos says:

    The Reasons = The Jew

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  19. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    America has been a permanent war state since the Spanish-American war. It’s always been ongoing and is background music, barely heard. Here and there there’s popular opposition such as for WW I and Vietnam in which case the government ratchets up it’s campaign against resisters.

    casualties have next to no political salience

    Except for their immediate family and friends American casualties are expendables. You know that and so does everyone else. It’s papered over with this saccharine ‘thanks for your service’ which is just lip service. Twenty years later no on remembers or cares about the people with prostheses. I’m off the ‘thanks for your service’ train nonsense; they’re not providing any service whatsoever to me so there’s little point in pretending otherwise. The MIC is just an income transfer scheme, one that makes the much criticized welfare state look penny-ante.
    Americans care nothing about anyone else besides themselves. Thousands die as a result of their government’s actions and the response is ho-hum, what’s to eat tonight? The majority of Americans are morally defective, spoiled by a high material standard of living and constant mirror-gazing.

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  20. The war on terror is a lie, ISIS aka AL CIADA was created by the U.S. and ISRAEL and BRITAIN to fracture the middle east for Israel and to capture the drug business in Afghanistan and that is exactly what has happened.

    The U.S. is under the control of Zionist dual citizen neocons who will spill goyim blood until the last American is killed in wars for Israel, just as long as the neocons do not have to fight these Zionist perpetrated wars.

    If anyone wants to see what America has become under Zionist control read Orwells 1984 , we are OCEANIA.

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  21. @War for Blair Mountain
    Colonel Bacevich

    It’s Donald Trump’s MAGA!!! jobs program...while his spoiled rotten CHICKENHAWK -WARHAWK sons cut MEGA-BIZNESS $$$$$$$ deals in the Middle East...


    USMC General Smedley Butler...two time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner:”WAR IS A RACKET...”


    Colonel Bacevitch

    I drove past the USMC Sargeant Michael Esposito memorial on the LIE yesterday.....After I drove past it....I hit the button and the following tune began playing in my car:”Willie McGee”...Dropkick Murphy’s rendition...which I think is the best rendition...Go to you tube....


    BEHIND EVERY GREAT FORTUNE IS A GREAT CRIME!!!!!!


    “Willie McGee was only 17....when they lowered him down........And they beat the drums slowly....”

    Correction:The song is Willie McBride…Dropkick Murphy’s rendition..

    Willie McBride…17 Years Old from Armagh Ireland…laid to rest in France in 1915…..

    WAR IS A RACKET!!!!

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  22. @animalogic
    "the military’s embrace of diversity helps to insulate it from criticism and from being called to account for a less than sterling performance in waging wars. "
    By diversity let's specify identity politics.
    And thus - we can see how concepts such as "left" & "right" need to be used - now - with some caution.
    When an entity such as the US military which would traditionally be considered "of the right"
    warmly embraces such "obviously" Left practices as Identity Politics, you know something...smells.
    The US military: the cutting edge of US imperialism, the same "military industrial complex" that has been at the heart of US capitalism since 1945 worries for the transgendered ...?
    My conclusion is there is no real Left...left -- where Left is used as a signifier of, at least, some kind of opposition to the status quo.
    The "opposition" IS the status quo. It is a cosmetic applied to bamboozle what used to be called "yuppies". Those useful idiots ....

    It seems to me that you may have some interest in this article which I find full of fascinating points.

    It is almost 10,000 words, but well worth the effort, I think.

    https://mises.org/library/rothbards-left-and-right-forty-years-later

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  23. As everyone here knows, and as several commenters have already pointed out, it’s the Military-Industrial Complex. The only difference from when Ike gave the warning is that we now have permanent ongoing shooting wars to justify the expenditures. So long as the violence is kept below a certain point, the public doesn’t care. Besides, with the complete gutting of our manufacturing base, it’s become a jobs program, with women encouraged to apply! Nuts.

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  24. Che Guava says:

    QM and Art are to making slight valid points, but the timeline Bacevich sets up is full of omissions, omission can be a lie.

    Specifically, murders of Syrian Army officers and soldiers, and murders of Russian officers and soldiers, by US proxy forces, with help from US sigint and US special forces advisors.

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  25. Someone should paste in here the lyrics to “Willie McBride”……..

    Both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton should be indicted for WAR CRIMES!!!!!!!!….

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  26. nsa says:
    @Art
    This article is mendacity – 10 reasons for American wars and not one of them Jews or Israel!

    Shame shame!

    No mention of the Jew controlled media fear mongering - no mention, that all peace movements are frozen out by the Jew media culture.

    No mention of the Jew controlled congress, that can only agree on one thing - 100% for wars for Israel.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. No mention that every US general supports Israel or he is culled out of the service.

    Bacevich is part of the problem…..a serial liar by ommission. Just come out and say it:…
    THE TRAITOROUS AMERICAN JOOIES WANT THESE WARS DESTROYING MUZZIE COUNTRIES. The relentlessly conniving self-serving jooies own or control vile ZioVision, publishing, media, entertainment, much of the internet, finance, and all of the pols of both parties……..so they get their wars. It’s as simple as that.

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    Yeah, the American Chrizzie majority are under complete mind control of the Jooies? Riiight!

    On the contrary, the Greed and Psychopathy of the godless polytheist Chrizzies is simply legendary. The Jooies are simply exploiting that innate albino behaviour for their own gain.

    Take your stinking mug out of the orifice man.

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  27. yeah says:
    @Art
    This article is mendacity – 10 reasons for American wars and not one of them Jews or Israel!

    Shame shame!

    No mention of the Jew controlled media fear mongering - no mention, that all peace movements are frozen out by the Jew media culture.

    No mention of the Jew controlled congress, that can only agree on one thing - 100% for wars for Israel.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. No mention that every US general supports Israel or he is culled out of the service.

    A brilliant analysis, which has clearly gone over your head, because all you do is obsess about your hate of jews. Can you think of anything slightly more original than “the jews did it”?

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    Oh I see, we must simply ignore the 800 pound gorilla.

    Cut the projection. It's Jews who are 'obsessed' with themselves. They demand being front & center 24/7 ... or else.

    Jews:
    the bride at every wedding, the corpses at every funeral

    No doubt a coincidence:
    Supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869.

    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     
    , @Art
    A brilliant analysis, which has clearly gone over your head, because all you do is obsess about your hate of jews.

    I refuse to accept the “hate” label. I am mad at Jews for screwing over my country. That does not mean that I hate them or want to kill them.

    When I get my good country back and the ME finds peace – the Jews can go chase their tails.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  28. RobinG says:
    @Dan Hayes
    You have enumerated ten general reasons why Americans "don't attend" to ongoing wars.

    Let me add a further specific one: the draft or lack of same. If there were a draft in place either the powers-that-be would not even dare to contemplate any of our present martial misadventures, or failing that the outraged citizenry would burn down the Congress!

    BTW I had never thought about reason #8: the military's embrace of diversity helps to insulate it from criticism. This explains General Casey's inane statement that diversity shouldn't be a casualty of the Fort Hood massacre by a "diverse" officer!

    Agreed: “If there were a draft in place …..”

    Not only that, how about total, gender-neutral, compulsory service, with military or alternative service and civilian reserve. [See Swiss and Swedish conscription for example.] This suggestion has rendered me even more deplorable with my progressive friends.

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    "Not only that, how about total, gender-neutral, compulsory service, with military or alternative service and civilian reserve."

    Agree on the draft, but oh brother. Gender neutral. Sure. Right. Check, Roger that. Women and trannies are always--ALWAYS going to migrate to and demand the e-z-jobs. Always. But even if you actually did force the weak women with the regular ground armies, Air and Navy forces, as soon as preps begin for a deployment, the women, enough to make the deployment difficult, will get themselves knocked up in a most non-immaculate way and so will NOT deploy. We've been witnessing this from the start. I have a neice that pulled the same stunt and she knew of dozens that did the same thing. Her sperm donor was a bright young Navy Second Class PO who got kicked out for fraternization. But they wanted her to go be a recruiter back home. She just got out and went home with security clearances and a years' worth of school under her belt. Of course, the sperm donor will be some sailor or soldier somewhere who will then be kicked out, or worse, enslaved with child support to further enrich the lady-sailor, soldier or air-femme. Those ladies will remain back home in some e-z-job capacity with full pay and benefits. And so the men will do the heavy lifting as they do now, going off short-handed to boot. Go gender neutral, the women won't care because they'll always get the e-z-jobs and so won't protest any wars because of a draft.

    Women never pull their share. They pretend to work, we pretend not to notice--or else. Gender Neutral compulsory service. Yer Hillaryous.
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  29. Don Bacon says:

    Let’s see now, the military objective of this stupid war in a small poor illiterate mountainous country on the other side of the planet is . . .to prevent people from planning another nine-eleven! Yes, that’ll work. (not)

    wiki: The Hamburg cell (German: Hamburger Zelle) or Hamburg terror cell (German: Hamburger Terrorzelle) was, according to U.S. and German intelligence agencies, a group of radical Islamists based in Hamburg, Germany that included students who eventually came to be key operatives in the 9/11 attacks. Important members included Mohamed Atta, who led the four hijacking teams in 2001 and piloted American Airlines Flight 11; Ramzi bin al-Shibh, who conspired with the other three members but was unable to enter the United States; and Marwan al-Shehhi, who piloted United Airlines Flight 175, Ziad Jarrah, who piloted United Airlines Flight 93 and failed to hit a target in Washington D.C., claimed by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to have been the Capitol. Less important members included Said Bahaji, Zakariya Essabar, Mounir el-Motassadeq, and Abdelghani Mzoudi.

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  30. Don Bacon says:
    @Dan Hayes
    You have enumerated ten general reasons why Americans "don't attend" to ongoing wars.

    Let me add a further specific one: the draft or lack of same. If there were a draft in place either the powers-that-be would not even dare to contemplate any of our present martial misadventures, or failing that the outraged citizenry would burn down the Congress!

    BTW I had never thought about reason #8: the military's embrace of diversity helps to insulate it from criticism. This explains General Casey's inane statement that diversity shouldn't be a casualty of the Fort Hood massacre by a "diverse" officer!

    Yes, lack of a draft is a key factor. A principal reason of why the US had to end the Vietnam conflict, opting out with diplomatic cover, was that the Army was “broken” with drug use, mission refusal and the fragging (killing) of superiors. “FTA” didn’t mean fun travel and adventure any more, it meant F*** The Army.

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  31. Wade says:

    Consider, if you will, these two indisputable facts. First, the United States is today more or less permanently engaged in hostilities in not one faraway place, but at least seven.

    Aren’t these nearly the same 7 countries Wesley Clark listed that the Pentagon had already planned to go to war with mere weeks after 9-11 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mNr1aaDiNw)? According to him: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Somalia, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran…I guess we’re not bombing Iran yet. However, they’ve stuck with the game plan pretty closely.

    All of these are valid, applicable to varying degrees, even your last and most speculative explanation. Gays, transgenders and women in combat have helped to neuter left wing opposition to the Pentagon through mere optics: Liberal Victory! The military is Progressive like us now! People’s religious impulses, both traditional Christianity and Progressivism are easily manipulable.

    I sure can attest to people being too busy to notice anything, let alone think about issues deeply, as also being a major cause. My own family is mostly unaware of what goes on in the world because their jobs and family obligations keep them too busy to notice things. And when they do bother to watch the news, all they get is CNN and Fox News. Imagine if every night you turned on the news, there sat Philip Giraldi and Michael Scheuer being interviewed on their thoughts.

    There’s lots of apathy as well because the people who are not stupid enough to believe #7: “Anyway, the next president will save us,” already realize there is nothing they can do about any of this anyway. Those are your choices: hope against hope that something might go differently thanks to a new boss, or fully embrace apathy and cynicism. Anyway isn’t college football on tonight?

    Thanks for the good article anyway as depressing as it may be…

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  32. Don Bacon says:

    Afghanistan “turning points”

    * Aug 22, 2017: Former president Hamid Karzai dubbed the US stance on Pakistan in its new strategy as a “turning point.”
    * Aug 21, 2017: WSJ: Putting forth his own strategy is a “turning point” for Trump because it means he takes ownership of the US involvement in the conflict
    * May 10, 2017: Washington Post: “A soldier’s death and a possible turning point in long-running Afghan war”
    *Feb 9, 2017: McCain: “This new administration has the opportunity to turn the page and finally give our commanders the resources and authorities they need”
    *May 22, 2016: MSN: The death of Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mansour in an American drone strike may be a turning point for Taliban and their Pakistani Army patrons.
    *Feb 2, 2016: Campbell: “Afghanistan is at an inflection point”
    *Oct 5, 2015: Campbell: “ Where they [ANA] were just a couple of years ago to where they are today is pretty astounding.
    *Feb 12, 2015: Campbell: “[Resolute Support] represents a significant paradigm shift.”
    *Dec 29, 2014: Campbell: “What a change from the day that President Ghani took over.”
    *Dec 28, 2014: Campbell: “we can see that Afghanistan and our Coalition are at a critical turning point.”
    *Dec 28, 2014: Obama: “2014, therefore, is a pivotal year. Together with our allies and the Afghan government, we have agreed that this is the year we will conclude our combat mission in Afghanistan.”
    *Dec 23, 2014: General Campbell: 2014 proved to be a time of critical transition in Afghanistan
    —–also see Campbell: May 9, 2011: MajGen John Campbell: “But I really do think that as people look back, and they’ll say 2010 was the year in Afghanistan. It’s the year that we finally put more resources in here. We had the right leadership [Petraeus], the right strategy. And I think that was a turning point.” . . . suck, suck

    I have many more back to 2002, but you get the point.

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  33. Wally says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    One reason Trump won is that he promised to pull back the empire, while suggesting the Pentagon already has plenty of money. After the election, he demanded a 10% increase, and threatens North Korea to justify it! This increase alone is bigger than the entire annual military budget of Russia! The public is informed that this is because of cuts during the Obama years, but there were no cuts, only limits to increases.

    How did the Democrats react? Most voted for a bigger military budget than the mindless increase proposed by Trump! That news was not reported by our corporate media, as Jimmy Dore explained:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qitAZcorCe0

    Also, Obama actually increased the funding beyond what the military was asking for, Obama sent in more troops to more countries, bombed & ‘droned’ more countries than Bush.

    And to think, Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Orwellian.

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  34. Wally says: • Website
    @Art
    This article is mendacity – 10 reasons for American wars and not one of them Jews or Israel!

    Shame shame!

    No mention of the Jew controlled media fear mongering - no mention, that all peace movements are frozen out by the Jew media culture.

    No mention of the Jew controlled congress, that can only agree on one thing - 100% for wars for Israel.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. No mention that every US general supports Israel or he is culled out of the service.

    Bingo!

    Ah yes, the current leftist / Zionist uproar at Trump’s rebuke of the ‘kneelers’.

    Imagine their uproar if the US Congress refused to stand for Israel’s Netanyahu.

    [MORE]

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2012898

    Why I Still Dislike Israel
    Netanyahu Should Leave Us Alone as a New Year’s Present

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/why-i-still-dislike-israel/

    The Dancing Israelis
    Trump was right about 9/11 but they weren’t Muslims

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-dancing-israelis/

    Israel’s Dirty Little Secret
    How it drives US policies exploiting a spineless Congress and White House

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-dirty-little-secret/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/

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  35. Wally says: • Website
    @yeah
    A brilliant analysis, which has clearly gone over your head, because all you do is obsess about your hate of jews. Can you think of anything slightly more original than "the jews did it"?

    Oh I see, we must simply ignore the 800 pound gorilla.

    Cut the projection. It’s Jews who are ‘obsessed’ with themselves. They demand being front & center 24/7 … or else.

    Jews:
    the bride at every wedding, the corpses at every funeral

    No doubt a coincidence:
    Supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869.

    [MORE]

    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

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    You really don't have the slightest clue how the left feels about Israel generally and Netanyahu specifically, do you?
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  36. Favorite Clash tune:”Career Opportunities”…favorite version:Shea Stadium Live version…

    WAR IS A RACKET!!!!

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  37. Remember this? US has a habit of interfering with the world but bitching about how the world, esp Russia, interferes in America.

    Yanks to the rescue, it says. But Yanks or Yankovich?

    Anyway, revolutionaries couldn’t have gained independence without French help. So, ANY HELP is welcome to overthrow the Globalists who really rule America not as a nation but jewel-in-the-crown of their worldwide empire.

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  38. bjondo says:

    war, war everywhere
    and
    not a jew mentioned

    how can jew be missed
    on tv, on internet
    in print, in academia
    on st corners, in churches,
    on phones, on billboards
    always pushing for more war
    to be fought by other
    to kill, destroy
    what jew hates

    then there is Mr. Philip Giraldi
    God Bless

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  39. And I’ll be driving over a bridge today named after 19 year USMC Pfc Justin Haerter today…another pointless meaningless death of an Native Born Working Class White Teenager Male…cannon fodder for the WHITE LIBERAL GREEDY CHEATING CLASS MEGA WHITE CEO…

    The ferry to Shelter Island named Thienert….killed in action in Afghanistan just like 19 year old Justin Haerter…..

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  40. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    Oh I see, we must simply ignore the 800 pound gorilla.

    Cut the projection. It's Jews who are 'obsessed' with themselves. They demand being front & center 24/7 ... or else.

    Jews:
    the bride at every wedding, the corpses at every funeral

    No doubt a coincidence:
    Supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869.

    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     

    You really don’t have the slightest clue how the left feels about Israel generally and Netanyahu specifically, do you?

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    Hasbarist Anon:

    I know exactly how they feel. Pay attention.
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  41. Worth remembering: The novelist E. L. Doctorow said, “At first the bomb was our weapon, then it became our diplomacy, then it became our economy, and now it has become our culture”.

    Substitute “war” for “the bomb” and that pretty much sums up our current predicament. I’m afraid that it will take a tremendous shock to jolt us out of our current groove. One almost hopes for it.

    The eagle on the Great Seal of the United States has its head turned towards the olive. When will we take the hint?

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  42. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Jake
    We are the British Empire 2.0. It is a given that (A) our Elites easily and fully would ally with Jews against the best interests of the vast majority of white Christians, and that (B) we would make war across the globe forever (until we go bankrupt or are destroyed from within by the blacks and Moslems our Elites dearly love), and we will preach our global warring as bringing peace, fairness, and equality to all.

    Amen.

    …until we go bankrupt or are destroyed from within…
    :
    Amen.

    Amen. Indeed.

    Only, the destruction will be primarily because of your kind’s decadence, immorality and spiritual bankruptcy.

    Simply placing all blame on blacks and “Moslems,” will ensure that you continue on your current delusionally destructive path, which is good.

    One of the major populations of Hell will be from your polytheist civilisation.

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  43. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Colonel Bacevich

    It’s Donald Trump’s MAGA!!! jobs program...while his spoiled rotten CHICKENHAWK -WARHAWK sons cut MEGA-BIZNESS $$$$$$$ deals in the Middle East...


    USMC General Smedley Butler...two time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner:”WAR IS A RACKET...”


    Colonel Bacevitch

    I drove past the USMC Sargeant Michael Esposito memorial on the LIE yesterday.....After I drove past it....I hit the button and the following tune began playing in my car:”Willie McGee”...Dropkick Murphy’s rendition...which I think is the best rendition...Go to you tube....


    BEHIND EVERY GREAT FORTUNE IS A GREAT CRIME!!!!!!


    “Willie McGee was only 17....when they lowered him down........And they beat the drums slowly....”

    BEHIND EVERY GREAT FORTUNE IS A GREAT CRIME!!!!!!

    Ah, an epiphany moment, perhaps? The truth behind success of the western civilisation.

    Now, consider the wealth of the western civilisation. Then, imagine the crimes which were required to acquire it, and the ongoing crimes to maintain it.

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    In fact, the Medici banking system produced great art; the Medicis focused their financing-banking efforts on trade and commerce, not war. To be sure, the Medicis had wars with various other Italian city-states, but those wars were not for the sake of war.

    When the Dutch, then the British adopted a form of banking that meant that the debt would never be paid off, and that the government need never constrain drawing from the 'treasury,' waging war was removed from control of the Commons: the people's government no longer had a check on the expenditures of the monarch.

    No doubt Shama will correct my very basic level of understanding of how banking works, and will dazzle with his acumen. But I've set out the basics pretty well: in the USA, as in Britain since the late 17th century, the people and their representatives have had no control over government spending, therefore no control over the waging of war. It's a lucrative business, a lot easier (for the financiers) and much more remunerative than trade in wool, silk, extraordinary architecture and art.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    No not an epiphany...

    Look at any society:GREEDY CHEATING CLASS versus everyone else in that society...

    The Hindus in America are playing the “poor Native Americans...racist White Americans!!...” game

    so they can enjoy the full benefits of the European Conquest of North America and....at the same time enthusiastically vote THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MAJORITY into a White racial minority within the borders of America..


    The return of Richard Spencer and the Alt Right to Charlottesville last night has made it very clear that:”YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US!!!!..”

    I believe I have made myself very clear to you...
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  44. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @nsa
    Bacevich is part of the problem.....a serial liar by ommission. Just come out and say it:...
    THE TRAITOROUS AMERICAN JOOIES WANT THESE WARS DESTROYING MUZZIE COUNTRIES. The relentlessly conniving self-serving jooies own or control vile ZioVision, publishing, media, entertainment, much of the internet, finance, and all of the pols of both parties........so they get their wars. It's as simple as that.

    Yeah, the American Chrizzie majority are under complete mind control of the Jooies? Riiight!

    On the contrary, the Greed and Psychopathy of the godless polytheist Chrizzies is simply legendary. The Jooies are simply exploiting that innate albino behaviour for their own gain.

    Take your stinking mug out of the orifice man.

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  45. El Dato says:
    @Backwoods Bob
    Structurally, you have arms production, military bases, hospitals, and related service industries across nearly all the congressional districts in the country.

    So it is an enormous set of vested interests with both voting power and corporate money for campaign treasuries.

    Quoting Ike was good, and he mentions the opportunity cost in schools, roads, etc. - but also the organizing political and economic power of the military industrial complex.

    The government schools are with some exceptions worthless. No subject, let alone war, is taken on seriously.

    The legacy media has been co-opted by the MIC/Financial interests. The state is spying on everyone and everyone knows so. Free speech, free association, free assembly, right to bear arms, confront your accuser, trial by jury, habeas corpus - all gone now.

    So the sheep behave. They walk by the dead whistling, and look straight ahead.

    WAR SOCIALISM!

    IT’S A GAS!

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  46. El Dato says:
    @Art
    This article is mendacity – 10 reasons for American wars and not one of them Jews or Israel!

    Shame shame!

    No mention of the Jew controlled media fear mongering - no mention, that all peace movements are frozen out by the Jew media culture.

    No mention of the Jew controlled congress, that can only agree on one thing - 100% for wars for Israel.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. No mention that every US general supports Israel or he is culled out of the service.

    The druggie cannot really accuse the needle for his ill situation though.

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  47. @War for Blair Mountain
    Someone should paste in here the lyrics to “Willie McBride”........


    Both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton should be indicted for WAR CRIMES!!!!!!!!....

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    Very good...Now paste in the Dropkick Murphy’s version of “Willie McBride”....it’s called the “Green Fields of France”...I just listened to it on you tube...
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  48. Greg Bacon says: • Website
    @jacques sheete
    Art, the article is spot on and is excellent. The problem is us. No need to blame the other guy. If we gave a collective damn and weren't so gullible, the jackals among us would get nowhere, or at least they'd have a much tougher go of it.

    What about those who have tried to push back from this subversion of govt?

    Mr. Giraldi spoke the truth and was fired. Ditto for Rick Sanchez and Helen Thomas. They even fired one of their own when Joel Stein of the LA Times mentioned that Jews are in control of the media.

    Right now, there is a bill in Congress that would equate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism, making it VERBOTEN and the offending writer or speaker in for jail time and a huge fine. Whose backing this gutting of the First Amendment? AIPAC.

    Even this anemic comment here at ‘UNZ” would be liable to get me and Mr. Unz in trouble, for merely exercising my Right to free speech.

    Last Fall, Americans elected a candidate who promised to get us out of these endless wars and ‘drain the swamp.’
    After getting elected, what does he do? Starts hiring Swamp creature for cabinet posts and takes on more Jewish advisors than any previous US president. Not only is Trump not ending these Wars for Israel, he’s looking to start two more.

    Alt Right people try to march and get savagely attacked by Antifa thugs. The Alt Right ones that got arrested got hit with felony charges and NO Bail while the Jewish-led Antifa thugs only got charged with misdemeanors.

    President Kennedy said that those who make peaceful protest impossible are asking for a violent revolution and I believe that is where we’re at.

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  49. Moi says:
    @Art
    This article is mendacity – 10 reasons for American wars and not one of them Jews or Israel!

    Shame shame!

    No mention of the Jew controlled media fear mongering - no mention, that all peace movements are frozen out by the Jew media culture.

    No mention of the Jew controlled congress, that can only agree on one thing - 100% for wars for Israel.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. No mention that every US general supports Israel or he is culled out of the service.

    BINGO!!!

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  50. @anonymous

    BEHIND EVERY GREAT FORTUNE IS A GREAT CRIME!!!!!!
     
    Ah, an epiphany moment, perhaps? The truth behind success of the western civilisation.

    Now, consider the wealth of the western civilisation. Then, imagine the crimes which were required to acquire it, and the ongoing crimes to maintain it.

    In fact, the Medici banking system produced great art; the Medicis focused their financing-banking efforts on trade and commerce, not war. To be sure, the Medicis had wars with various other Italian city-states, but those wars were not for the sake of war.

    When the Dutch, then the British adopted a form of banking that meant that the debt would never be paid off, and that the government need never constrain drawing from the ‘treasury,’ waging war was removed from control of the Commons: the people’s government no longer had a check on the expenditures of the monarch.

    No doubt Shama will correct my very basic level of understanding of how banking works, and will dazzle with his acumen. But I’ve set out the basics pretty well: in the USA, as in Britain since the late 17th century, the people and their representatives have had no control over government spending, therefore no control over the waging of war. It’s a lucrative business, a lot easier (for the financiers) and much more remunerative than trade in wool, silk, extraordinary architecture and art.

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  51. Anne says:

    Commentators blame the American people, but they don’t say what we’re supposed to do. I voted for Trump because he said he would end the wars—no more wars, withdrawal from the Middle East, no more American hegemony abroad. Well, he lied and did an about-face. So what am I supposed to do about it? Send a letter to my congressman? “The people” have absolutely no power to effect anything. It is only the members of government itself who can effect anything.

    The information available to most Americans is totally controlled, limited, and full of lies.

    Anyway, I shall never vote for a Republican or a Democrat for President again.

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    Well....

    Commentators blame the American people, but they don’t say what we’re supposed to do. I voted for Trump because he said he would end the wars—no more wars, withdrawal from the Middle East, no more American hegemony abroad. Well, he lied and did an about-face. So what am I supposed to do about it? Send a letter to my congressman? “The people” have absolutely no power to effect anything. It is only the members of government itself who can effect anything.
     
    How about this (just a point of view, mind you):
    You thought that a simple act of voting would solve the problem ("you" as people who voted for change, not just you personally).
    Looks ..three ways:
    1. You want it easy. Hence you are lazy. True change demands much more effort. The effort you just can't do.
    2. You are hypocrite. You did something you knew it wouldn't have worked just to feel good about yourself. You are actually O.K. with how things are going. You say you aren't, but, you are. I mean, regardless how shitty it is, it's way better than the rest of the world.
    3. You are, actually, incapable. You know what you want but you do not know how to do it. Well, in that case, no hope there.

    The information available to most Americans is totally controlled, limited, and full of lies.
     
    No.
    The information is totally available.
    Requires a bit of effort though.
    Why there is no such effort is another matter.
    Probably related to 1, 2 or 3 above.

    Anyway, I shall never vote for a Republican or a Democrat for President again.
     
    Impressive....
    , @jacques sheete

    Commentators blame the American people, but they don’t say what we’re supposed to do.

     

    I have no real answer since the real war is the class war that began many centuries or millennia ago and no one has been able solve it yet.

    However, I tend to sense that you are even wiser than you may feel.

    Anyway, I shall never vote for a Republican or a Democrat for President again.
     
    Sounds like an excellent start to me, especially since it indicates that you may be reducing your trust in the system and the pathetic leadership we're stuck with, and I think those are very fine things. It's important to understand that things of that nature take long periods of time to change and the changes for the better are never permanent.

    Keep doing what you can, try to find the time to verify anything "they" tell you, and hang in there. Please.
    , @jacques sheete
    Anne, here's another.

    Carlin may have had some personal problems and this is old, but I don't see where any of his points are wrong.

    Another good one.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuaFJaiAx4U
    , @denk

    Commentators blame the American people, but they don’t say what we’re supposed to do.
     
    You can walk the walk like Kathy Kelly........
    but prepare to pay the price !

    http://sainthoward.blogspot.com/2014/
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  52. This article makes many good points (except for the ridiculous sop thrown to the Climate Changers), but the premise, I think, is not entirely correct. Americans do care about these wars. We have done everything in our power, at least electorally, to stop them and nothing has worked.

    The huge Congressional gains that the Democrats made in the midterm elections of 2006 were widely and correctly seen as a repudiation of George W. Bush’s neocon war policy. When Barack Obama was elected president 2 years later, it was partly on the strength of his promise to get out of Iraq. Eight years after that, Donald Trump was setting arenas ablaze with his promises of an America First foreign policy. For the last 12 years, every ant-war politician has won and every pro-war politician has lost, and yet the wars go on.

    Obviously these politicians were all lying to us, but the average American can’t really do anything more than register his opinion by voting on the issues and the candidates as they are presented to him. Clearly that is not enough to stop the war machine and more drastic measures are needed, but it’s not as if we didn’t try at all.

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    We had a brief chat about similar issue before.

    So...relating to:

    ...the average American can’t really do anything more than register his opinion by voting on the issues and the candidates as they are presented to him. Clearly that is not enough to stop the war machine and more drastic measures are needed, but it’s not as if we didn’t try at all.
     
    similar to what I posted in another reply here:
    How about this (just a point of view, mind you):
    You thought that a simple act of voting would solve the problem (“you” as people who voted for change, not just you personally).
    Looks ..three ways:
    1. You want it easy. Hence you are lazy. True change demands much more effort. The effort you just can’t do.
    2. You are hypocrite. You did something you knew it wouldn’t have worked just to feel good about yourself. You are actually O.K. with how things are going. You say you aren’t, but, you are. I mean, regardless how shitty it is, it’s way better than the rest of the world.
    3. You are, actually, incapable. You know what you want but you do not know how to do it. Well, in that case, no hope there.
    And, I'd go for "3".
    Bad for you, but, definitely worse for other peoples of this world.
    So..not that bad eh?
    , @jacques sheete

    Americans do care about these wars. We have done everything in our power, at least electorally, to stop them and nothing has worked.
     
    Most likely true.

    Apparently some 83% of Americans were against getting involved in WW2 until the attack on the base at Pearl harbor. The point being that the people didn't want war, but really could do nothing about it thanks to FDR's treachery in provoking the Japanese to take that step.

    Another point is that the system of government that we have is a complete fraud, and the people's lack of any real power is evidence for the claim.

    Some folks are turned off by Carlin, but he had a point.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeMGqTwWA6U
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  53. @anonymous

    BEHIND EVERY GREAT FORTUNE IS A GREAT CRIME!!!!!!
     
    Ah, an epiphany moment, perhaps? The truth behind success of the western civilisation.

    Now, consider the wealth of the western civilisation. Then, imagine the crimes which were required to acquire it, and the ongoing crimes to maintain it.

    No not an epiphany…

    Look at any society:GREEDY CHEATING CLASS versus everyone else in that society…

    The Hindus in America are playing the “poor Native Americans…racist White Americans!!…” game

    so they can enjoy the full benefits of the European Conquest of North America and….at the same time enthusiastically vote THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MAJORITY into a White racial minority within the borders of America..

    The return of Richard Spencer and the Alt Right to Charlottesville last night has made it very clear that:”YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US!!!!..”

    I believe I have made myself very clear to you…

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  54. What did US Army General William Casey say after the Fort Hood Masscre?

    I want the exact quote…

    TREASON IS THE REASON!!!

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  55. And Northport has a monument to the retired Police Chief’s son…Jonathan Bruckenthal US Coast Guard killed in Iraq guarding an offshore Iraqi oil well…

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  56. @SolontoCroesus
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVE5d2PLWP0

    Very good…Now paste in the Dropkick Murphy’s version of “Willie McBride”….it’s called the “Green Fields of France”…I just listened to it on you tube…

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  57. peterAUS says:
    @Anne
    Commentators blame the American people, but they don't say what we're supposed to do. I voted for Trump because he said he would end the wars---no more wars, withdrawal from the Middle East, no more American hegemony abroad. Well, he lied and did an about-face. So what am I supposed to do about it? Send a letter to my congressman? "The people" have absolutely no power to effect anything. It is only the members of government itself who can effect anything.

    The information available to most Americans is totally controlled, limited, and full of lies.

    Anyway, I shall never vote for a Republican or a Democrat for President again.

    Well….

    Commentators blame the American people, but they don’t say what we’re supposed to do. I voted for Trump because he said he would end the wars—no more wars, withdrawal from the Middle East, no more American hegemony abroad. Well, he lied and did an about-face. So what am I supposed to do about it? Send a letter to my congressman? “The people” have absolutely no power to effect anything. It is only the members of government itself who can effect anything.

    How about this (just a point of view, mind you):
    You thought that a simple act of voting would solve the problem (“you” as people who voted for change, not just you personally).
    Looks ..three ways:
    1. You want it easy. Hence you are lazy. True change demands much more effort. The effort you just can’t do.
    2. You are hypocrite. You did something you knew it wouldn’t have worked just to feel good about yourself. You are actually O.K. with how things are going. You say you aren’t, but, you are. I mean, regardless how shitty it is, it’s way better than the rest of the world.
    3. You are, actually, incapable. You know what you want but you do not know how to do it. Well, in that case, no hope there.

    The information available to most Americans is totally controlled, limited, and full of lies.

    No.
    The information is totally available.
    Requires a bit of effort though.
    Why there is no such effort is another matter.
    Probably related to 1, 2 or 3 above.

    Anyway, I shall never vote for a Republican or a Democrat for President again.

    Impressive….

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  58. peterAUS says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    This article makes many good points (except for the ridiculous sop thrown to the Climate Changers), but the premise, I think, is not entirely correct. Americans do care about these wars. We have done everything in our power, at least electorally, to stop them and nothing has worked.

    The huge Congressional gains that the Democrats made in the midterm elections of 2006 were widely and correctly seen as a repudiation of George W. Bush's neocon war policy. When Barack Obama was elected president 2 years later, it was partly on the strength of his promise to get out of Iraq. Eight years after that, Donald Trump was setting arenas ablaze with his promises of an America First foreign policy. For the last 12 years, every ant-war politician has won and every pro-war politician has lost, and yet the wars go on.

    Obviously these politicians were all lying to us, but the average American can't really do anything more than register his opinion by voting on the issues and the candidates as they are presented to him. Clearly that is not enough to stop the war machine and more drastic measures are needed, but it's not as if we didn't try at all.

    We had a brief chat about similar issue before.

    So…relating to:

    …the average American can’t really do anything more than register his opinion by voting on the issues and the candidates as they are presented to him. Clearly that is not enough to stop the war machine and more drastic measures are needed, but it’s not as if we didn’t try at all.

    similar to what I posted in another reply here:
    How about this (just a point of view, mind you):
    You thought that a simple act of voting would solve the problem (“you” as people who voted for change, not just you personally).
    Looks ..three ways:
    1. You want it easy. Hence you are lazy. True change demands much more effort. The effort you just can’t do.
    2. You are hypocrite. You did something you knew it wouldn’t have worked just to feel good about yourself. You are actually O.K. with how things are going. You say you aren’t, but, you are. I mean, regardless how shitty it is, it’s way better than the rest of the world.
    3. You are, actually, incapable. You know what you want but you do not know how to do it. Well, in that case, no hope there.
    And, I’d go for “3″.
    Bad for you, but, definitely worse for other peoples of this world.
    So..not that bad eh?

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  59. Art says:
    @yeah
    A brilliant analysis, which has clearly gone over your head, because all you do is obsess about your hate of jews. Can you think of anything slightly more original than "the jews did it"?

    A brilliant analysis, which has clearly gone over your head, because all you do is obsess about your hate of jews.

    I refuse to accept the “hate” label. I am mad at Jews for screwing over my country. That does not mean that I hate them or want to kill them.

    When I get my good country back and the ME finds peace – the Jews can go chase their tails.

    Think Peace — Art

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  60. schrub says:

    Mike Rivero, head honcho os the whatreallyhappened.com website, made an hour-long video that clearly and concisely shows why we have been in a state of constant war for so long. The video is about an hour in length and everyone should watch it.

    It should be required viewing for all high school students. I have also provided a link to the written transcript of the video.

    Video:

    written transcript:

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php

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  61. JVC says:
    @jacques sheete
    Art, the article is spot on and is excellent. The problem is us. No need to blame the other guy. If we gave a collective damn and weren't so gullible, the jackals among us would get nowhere, or at least they'd have a much tougher go of it.

    the biggest problem with “us” is that we have let the USG take over the education of our children, and very few of us do anything to counter the brain numbing curriculum our children are indoctrinated with. No longer do our government schools teach anything about problem solving, or (heaven forbid) rational and creative thinking. The younger generations are taught nothing more than rote repetition and obedience to authority. Any child who exhibits any qualities other than that, or show any signs of being outside the “box” are drugged to the point of complete submission, and stuffed into said box.

    The state plays the game of divide and conquer rather well, keeping the peeps stirred up against the “other”, and distracted with “games” that the peeps do not even see the curtain between the reality of power and the illusion of “democracy” we are feed with, let alone ever thinking of looking behind that curtain. Yes, the problem is “us”, and unfortunately, it is much too late for an election to change anything. The power is too embedded, and the majority of our elected “representatives” including the president do what they are told, or else. Anyone who challenges the deep state pays a price, often the ultimate price. The only thing would be freemen can hope for is that the economic collapse guaranteed by 20t+ indebtedness happens sooner than later.

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  62. @Anne
    Commentators blame the American people, but they don't say what we're supposed to do. I voted for Trump because he said he would end the wars---no more wars, withdrawal from the Middle East, no more American hegemony abroad. Well, he lied and did an about-face. So what am I supposed to do about it? Send a letter to my congressman? "The people" have absolutely no power to effect anything. It is only the members of government itself who can effect anything.

    The information available to most Americans is totally controlled, limited, and full of lies.

    Anyway, I shall never vote for a Republican or a Democrat for President again.

    Commentators blame the American people, but they don’t say what we’re supposed to do.

    I have no real answer since the real war is the class war that began many centuries or millennia ago and no one has been able solve it yet.

    However, I tend to sense that you are even wiser than you may feel.

    Anyway, I shall never vote for a Republican or a Democrat for President again.

    Sounds like an excellent start to me, especially since it indicates that you may be reducing your trust in the system and the pathetic leadership we’re stuck with, and I think those are very fine things. It’s important to understand that things of that nature take long periods of time to change and the changes for the better are never permanent.

    Keep doing what you can, try to find the time to verify anything “they” tell you, and hang in there. Please.

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  63. @Intelligent Dasein
    This article makes many good points (except for the ridiculous sop thrown to the Climate Changers), but the premise, I think, is not entirely correct. Americans do care about these wars. We have done everything in our power, at least electorally, to stop them and nothing has worked.

    The huge Congressional gains that the Democrats made in the midterm elections of 2006 were widely and correctly seen as a repudiation of George W. Bush's neocon war policy. When Barack Obama was elected president 2 years later, it was partly on the strength of his promise to get out of Iraq. Eight years after that, Donald Trump was setting arenas ablaze with his promises of an America First foreign policy. For the last 12 years, every ant-war politician has won and every pro-war politician has lost, and yet the wars go on.

    Obviously these politicians were all lying to us, but the average American can't really do anything more than register his opinion by voting on the issues and the candidates as they are presented to him. Clearly that is not enough to stop the war machine and more drastic measures are needed, but it's not as if we didn't try at all.

    Americans do care about these wars. We have done everything in our power, at least electorally, to stop them and nothing has worked.

    Most likely true.

    Apparently some 83% of Americans were against getting involved in WW2 until the attack on the base at Pearl harbor. The point being that the people didn’t want war, but really could do nothing about it thanks to FDR’s treachery in provoking the Japanese to take that step.

    Another point is that the system of government that we have is a complete fraud, and the people’s lack of any real power is evidence for the claim.

    Some folks are turned off by Carlin, but he had a point.

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  64. @Anne
    Commentators blame the American people, but they don't say what we're supposed to do. I voted for Trump because he said he would end the wars---no more wars, withdrawal from the Middle East, no more American hegemony abroad. Well, he lied and did an about-face. So what am I supposed to do about it? Send a letter to my congressman? "The people" have absolutely no power to effect anything. It is only the members of government itself who can effect anything.

    The information available to most Americans is totally controlled, limited, and full of lies.

    Anyway, I shall never vote for a Republican or a Democrat for President again.

    Anne, here’s another.

    Carlin may have had some personal problems and this is old, but I don’t see where any of his points are wrong.

    Another good one.

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  65. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Re #5, the following from an email from Sen. Ron Johnson (R. WI):

    For much of the past century, America has been a tremendous force for good in the world. American global leadership began in World War II and came of age during the Cold War. Continued American leadership is critical, both for our own interests and for the world’s.
    When America withdraws from the world, the world becomes a more dangerous place. We are not and should not be the world’s police, but disengagement and ceding sovereignty to international governmental organizations is not the answer either.
    America has interests that are critical to our continued prosperity and security, and those interests do not end at our shores. We must preserve and strengthen our alliances, maintain a decisive military deterrent, and continue to champion political and religious freedom, freedom of the seas and commerce, and respect for universal human rights throughout the world.

    Need I say more?

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    Whats sen Johnson been smoking my dear ?
    , @KA
    --America has interests that are critical to our continued prosperity and security, and those interests do not end at our shores.

    The language can make audience dumb and it can make the speaker dumbest of them all. It is a chant and puts us in a trance . Then the orgy begins or to be more precise ,it never ends . The witches are found ,brought and roasted alive . The witches are different They look different,smell different,dress different, and follow different views . One less witch is one more hope for the humanity .
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  66. denk says:
    @Anne
    Commentators blame the American people, but they don't say what we're supposed to do. I voted for Trump because he said he would end the wars---no more wars, withdrawal from the Middle East, no more American hegemony abroad. Well, he lied and did an about-face. So what am I supposed to do about it? Send a letter to my congressman? "The people" have absolutely no power to effect anything. It is only the members of government itself who can effect anything.

    The information available to most Americans is totally controlled, limited, and full of lies.

    Anyway, I shall never vote for a Republican or a Democrat for President again.

    Commentators blame the American people, but they don’t say what we’re supposed to do.

    You can walk the walk like Kathy Kelly.…….
    but prepare to pay the price !

    http://sainthoward.blogspot.com/2014/

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  67. denk says:
    @Anon
    Re #5, the following from an email from Sen. Ron Johnson (R. WI):

    For much of the past century, America has been a tremendous force for good in the world. American global leadership began in World War II and came of age during the Cold War. Continued American leadership is critical, both for our own interests and for the world’s.
    When America withdraws from the world, the world becomes a more dangerous place. We are not and should not be the world’s police, but disengagement and ceding sovereignty to international governmental organizations is not the answer either.
    America has interests that are critical to our continued prosperity and security, and those interests do not end at our shores. We must preserve and strengthen our alliances, maintain a decisive military deterrent, and continue to champion political and religious freedom, freedom of the seas and commerce, and respect for universal human rights throughout the world.

    Need I say more?

    Whats sen Johnson been smoking my dear ?

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  68. @RobinG
    Agreed: "If there were a draft in place ....."

    Not only that, how about total, gender-neutral, compulsory service, with military or alternative service and civilian reserve. [See Swiss and Swedish conscription for example.] This suggestion has rendered me even more deplorable with my progressive friends.

    “Not only that, how about total, gender-neutral, compulsory service, with military or alternative service and civilian reserve.”

    Agree on the draft, but oh brother. Gender neutral. Sure. Right. Check, Roger that. Women and trannies are always–ALWAYS going to migrate to and demand the e-z-jobs. Always. But even if you actually did force the weak women with the regular ground armies, Air and Navy forces, as soon as preps begin for a deployment, the women, enough to make the deployment difficult, will get themselves knocked up in a most non-immaculate way and so will NOT deploy. We’ve been witnessing this from the start. I have a neice that pulled the same stunt and she knew of dozens that did the same thing. Her sperm donor was a bright young Navy Second Class PO who got kicked out for fraternization. But they wanted her to go be a recruiter back home. She just got out and went home with security clearances and a years’ worth of school under her belt. Of course, the sperm donor will be some sailor or soldier somewhere who will then be kicked out, or worse, enslaved with child support to further enrich the lady-sailor, soldier or air-femme. Those ladies will remain back home in some e-z-job capacity with full pay and benefits. And so the men will do the heavy lifting as they do now, going off short-handed to boot. Go gender neutral, the women won’t care because they’ll always get the e-z-jobs and so won’t protest any wars because of a draft.

    Women never pull their share. They pretend to work, we pretend not to notice–or else. Gender Neutral compulsory service. Yer Hillaryous.

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  69. KA says:
    @jacques sheete

    "Arabists."
     
    So we have a new bogeyman, I see.

    I wonder why.

    Note the date, and note also that we've been screwing them ever since. Seems to me WE are THEIR bogeymen.


    CAIRO, Egypt, May 27,[1922]—The last hope of 30,000,000 Arabs to win freedom for their race without further bloodshed vanished when cables from Washington announced that the United States had concluded an agreement with Great Britain… The Arabs came into the war on the side of the allies against their Turkish co-religionists in- response to the allies’ promise of freedom…The Arab support “was determined and effective.”

    Newspaper article by Junius B. Wood on the American recognition of Britain's mandate in Palestine, Chicago Daily News,27 May 1922 (also The Sunday Star, Washington)

    http://dcollections.oberlin.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/kingcrane/id/1686/rec/18

     

    Not only this betrayal, America betrayed Turkey and Moro Muslim of Mindanao as well . USA asked Turkey to put pressure and use diplomacy on Muslim in Philippine so that they didn’t join the resurrection with rest of the Philippine insurgency movement against the American . The suckers agreed and got screwed . Years later some bastard would gloat from the soil of America how American soldiers skewered the Moslem insurgents with bacon.

    ( Is there a pattern ? America enters treaties ,makes promises and then discards them on a regular basis . They sell stuff,take the money and then use their laws or create some laws and don’t deliver the goods . Russia,Pakistan, NK,Iran ,Venezuela ,Cuba, Native Indians – yes all of them and more know it quite well )

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  70. KA says:
    @Anon
    Re #5, the following from an email from Sen. Ron Johnson (R. WI):

    For much of the past century, America has been a tremendous force for good in the world. American global leadership began in World War II and came of age during the Cold War. Continued American leadership is critical, both for our own interests and for the world’s.
    When America withdraws from the world, the world becomes a more dangerous place. We are not and should not be the world’s police, but disengagement and ceding sovereignty to international governmental organizations is not the answer either.
    America has interests that are critical to our continued prosperity and security, and those interests do not end at our shores. We must preserve and strengthen our alliances, maintain a decisive military deterrent, and continue to champion political and religious freedom, freedom of the seas and commerce, and respect for universal human rights throughout the world.

    Need I say more?

    –America has interests that are critical to our continued prosperity and security, and those interests do not end at our shores.

    The language can make audience dumb and it can make the speaker dumbest of them all. It is a chant and puts us in a trance . Then the orgy begins or to be more precise ,it never ends . The witches are found ,brought and roasted alive . The witches are different They look different,smell different,dress different, and follow different views . One less witch is one more hope for the humanity .

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  71. Wally says:
    @Anon
    You really don't have the slightest clue how the left feels about Israel generally and Netanyahu specifically, do you?

    Hasbarist Anon:

    I know exactly how they feel. Pay attention.

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  72. KA says:

    In other words, it’s all about the war that Trump and his still-loyal lieutenant Steve Bannon, assisted by UN ambassador Nikki Haley, have declared on the “deep state.” They want to dismantle the foreign policy establishment that has presided over America’s engagement in the world. A progressive might find much to rejoice in this attack, given that America’s engagement with the world has often been through war and corporate penetration. But the establishment is more than that, and Trump/Bannon also want to unravel everything of diplomatic and humanitarian value as well.

    Also, Trump and Bannon aren’t really interested in draining the foreign policy swamp in DC. They simply want to install their own cronies who will ensure that war and globalization benefit them rather than Kissinger and his ilk. It’s a shell game designed to fool Trump’s base, but the rest of the world has kept its eye on the ball.”om/feffer/2017/10/13/trump-signaling-unprecedented-right-turn-foreign-policy/

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