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Are the Clintons Israeli Agents?
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On August 5th, Michael Morell, a former acting Director of the CIA, pilloried GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, concluding that he was an “unwitting agent of Russia.” Morell, who entitled his New York Times op-ed “I Ran the CIA and now I’m endorsing Hillary Clinton,” described the process whereby Trump had been so corrupted. According to Morell, Putin, it seems, as a wily ex-career intelligence officer, is “trained to identify vulnerabilities in an individual and to exploit them. That is exactly what he did early in the primaries. Mr. Putin played upon Mr. Trump’s vulnerabilities… In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.”

I have previously observed how incomprehensible the designation of “unwitting agent” used in a sentence together with “recruited” is, but perhaps I should add something more about Morell that might not be clear to the casual reader. Morell was an Agency analyst, not a spy, who spent nearly his entire career in and around Washington. The high point of his CIA experience consisted of briefing George W. Bush on the President’s Daily Brief (PDB).

Morell was not trained in the arduous CIA operational tradecraft course which agent recruiters and handlers go through. This means that his understanding of intelligence operations and agents is, to put it politely, derivative. If he had gone through the course he would understand that when you recruit an agent you control him and tell him what to do. The agent might not know whom exactly he is really answering to as in a false flag operation, but he cannot be unwitting.

Morell appears to have a tendency to make promises that others will have to deliver on, but perhaps that’s what delegation by senior U.S. government officials is all about. He was also not trained in CIA paramilitary operations, which perhaps should be considered when he drops comments about the desirability of “covertly” killing Russians and Iranians to make a point that they should not oppose U.S. policies in Syria, as he did in a softball interview with Charlie Rose on August 6th.

Morell appears to be oblivious to the possibility that going around assassinating foreigners might be regarded as state sponsored terrorism and could well ignite World War 3. And, as is characteristic of chickenhawks, it is highly unlikely that he was intending that either he or his immediate family should go out and cut the throats or blow the heads off of those foreign devils who seek to derail the Pax Americana. Nor would he expect to be in the firing line when the relatives of those victims seek revenge. Someone else with the proper training would be found to do all that messy stuff and take the consequences.

Be that as it may, Morell was a very senior officer and perhaps we should accept that he might know something that the rest of us have missed, so let’s just assume that he kind of misspoke and give him a pass on the “recruited unwitting agent” expression. Instead let’s look for other American political figures who just might be either deliberately or inadvertently serving the interests of a foreign government, which is presumably actually what Michael Morell meant to convey regarding Trump. To be sure a well-run McCarthy-esque ferreting out of individuals who just might be disloyal provides an excellent opportunity to undertake a purge of those who either by thought, word or deed might be guilty of unacceptable levels of coziness with foreign interests.

So who is guilty of putting the interests of a foreign government ahead of those of the United States? I know there are advocates for any number of foreign states running around loose in Washington but the friends of Israel in government and the media come immediately to mind largely because there are so many of them, they are very much in-your-face and they are both extremely well-funded and very successful. Now deceased former Congressman Tom Lantos and Senator Frank Lautenberg were, respectively, often referred to as the congressman and senator from Israel. And there are many more: Chuck Schumer, Chuck Grassley, Ben Cardin, Bob Menendez, Tom Cotton, Mark Kirk, Nita Lowey, Ted Deutch, Brad Sherman, Ileana-Ros Lehtinen and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to name only a few in the Congress. All are major recipients of Israel related PAC money and all are reliable defenders of Israel no matter what Benjamin Netanyahu does and no matter how it effects the United States.

And then there are the Clintons. One only has to go back to Bill’s one-sided pro-Israeli diplomacy at Camp David in 2000 to discern how the game was played. And then there was the widely condemned January 2001 last minute pardon of Mossad agent Marc Rich, whose wife Denise was a major contributor to the Clintons, to realize that there was always a deference to Israeli interests particularly when money was involved. The only problem is that the Clintons, relying on Morell’s formulation, might more reasonably be described as witting agents of Israel rather than unwitting as they have certainly known what they have been doing and have been actively supporting Israeli policies even when damaging to U.S. interests since they first emerged from the primordial political swamps in Arkansas. If one were completely cynical it might be possible to suggest that they understood from the beginning that pandering to Israel and gaining access to Jewish power and money would be a major component in their rise to political prominence. It certainly has worked out that way.

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Trump’s crime, per Morell, is that he is disloyal to the United States because he is not sufficiently hostile to the evil Vladimir Putin, which somehow means that he is being manipulated by the clever Russian. Trump has indeed called for a positive working relationship with Putin to accomplish, among other objectives, the crushing of ISIS. And he is otherwise in favor of leaving Bashar al-Assad of Syria alone while also being disinclined to get involved in any additional military interventions in the Middle East or elsewhere, which pretty much makes him the antithesis of the Clintonian foreign policy promoted by Morell.

In comparison with the deeply and profoundly corrupt Clintons, Trump’s alleged foreign policy perfidy makes him appear to be pretty much a boy scout. To understand the Clintons one might consider the hundreds of millions of dollars, much of it from foreign sources, that have flowed into the Clinton Foundation while Hillary was Secretary of State. And there is the clear email evidence that Hillary exploited her government position to favor both foreign and domestic financial supporters.

The leading individual foreign donor to the Clinton Foundation between 1999 and 2014 was Ukrainian Viktor Pinchuk, who “directed between $10 and $25 million” to its Global Initiative, has let the Clintons use his private jet, attended Bill’s Hollywood 65th birthday celebration and hosted daughter Chelsea and her husband on a trip to Ukraine. Pinchuk is a Jewish oligarch married to the daughter of notoriously corrupt former Ukrainian president Leonid Kuchma. He is very closely tied to Israel, a supporter of regime change in his country, who was simultaneously donating money and also lobbying in Washington while Hillary was Secretary of State and promoting a similar agenda as part of her $5 billion program to “democratize” Ukraine. Clinton arranged a dozen meetings with substantive State Department officers for Pinchuk.

Hillary and Bill’s predilection for all things Israeli and her promise to do even more in the future is a matter of public record. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz asserted that of all the political candidates in the primaries “Clinton had the longest public record of engagement with Israel, and has spent decades diligently defending the Jewish state.” In a speech to AIPAC in March she promised to take the “U.S.-Israel alliance to the next level.” Hillary’s current principal financial supporter in her presidential run is Haim Saban, an Israeli who has described himself as a “one issue” guy and that issue is Israel.

Hillary Clinton boasts of having “stood with Israel my entire career.” Her website promises to maintain “Israel’s qualitative military edge to ensure the IDF is equipped to deter and defeat aggression from the full spectrum of threats,” “stand up against the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement (BDS),” and “cut off efforts to unilaterally recognize Palestinian statehood outside of the context of negotiations with Israel.” In a letter to Haim Saban, Hillary declared that “we need to make countering BDS a priority,” which means she is prepared to support laws limiting First Amendment rights in the U.S. in defense of perceived Israeli interests.

As part of the Obama Administration Hillary Clinton at first supported his attempts to pressure Israel over its illegal settlements but has now backed off from that position, only rarely criticizing them as a “problem” but never advocating any steps to persuade Netanyahu to reverse his policy. Notably, she has repeatedly decried terroristic attacks on Israelis but has never acknowledged the brutality of the Israeli occupation of much of the West Bank in spite of the fact that ten Palestinians are killed for each Jewish victim of the ongoing violence.

Clinton supported Israel’s actions in the 2014 Gaza War, which killed more than 500 children, describing them as an appropriate response to a situation that was provoked by Hamas. On the campaign trail recently husband Bill disingenuously defended Hillary’s position on Gaza, saying that “Hamas is really smart. When they decide to rocket Israel they insinuate themselves in the hospitals, in the schools…” placing all the blame for the large number of civilian casualties on the Palestinians, not on the Israelis. When the media began to report on the plight of the civilians trapped in Gaza Hillary dismissed the impending humanitarian catastrophe, saying “They’re trapped by their leadership, unfortunately.”

Earlier, as a Senator from New York, Hillary supported Israel’s building of the separation barrier on Palestinian land and cheer-led a crowd at a pro-Israel rally that praised Israel’s 2006 devastation of Lebanon and Gaza. She nonsensically characterized and justified the bombing campaign as “efforts to send messages to Hamas, Hezbollah, to the Syrians, to the Iranians – to all who seek death and domination instead of life and freedom…” More than nine hundred civilians died in the onslaught and when a vote came up subsequently in Congress to stop the supply of cluster bombs to countries that use them on civilians Hillary voted against the bill together with 69 other pro-Israel senators.

Hillary enjoys a particularly close relationship with Netanyahu, writing in November, “I would also invite the Israeli prime minister to the White House in my first month in office.” She has worked diligently to “reaffirm the unbreakable bond with Israel – and Benjamin Netanyahu.” She has boasted of her being one of the promoters of annual increases in aid to Israel while she was in the Senate and Secretary of State and takes credit for repeatedly using America’s Security Council veto to defend it in the United Nations.

So I think it is pretty clear who is the presidential candidate promoting the interests of a foreign country and it ain’t Trump. Hillary would no doubt argue that Israel is a friend and Russia is not, an interesting point of view as Israel is not in fact an ally and has spied on us and copied our military technology to re-export to countries like China. Indeed, the most damaging spy in U.S. history Jonathan Pollard worked for Israel. In spite of all that Israel continues to tap our treasury for billions of dollars a year while still ignoring Washington when requests are made to moderate policies that damage American interests. Against that, what exactly has Moscow done to harm us since the Cold War ended? And who is advocating even more pressure on Russia and increasing the rewards for Israel, presumably in the completely illogical belief that to do so will somehow bring some benefit to the American people? Hillary Clinton.

 
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  1. Find the true reason why G.H. Bush was not allowed to get the 2nd term. Do you remember his attempt to reign in Yitzhak Shamir when GHB was riding high popularity wave after the Desert Storm? Do you remember anti-Bush Safire and Friedman columns in NYT week after week? Why Ross Perrot was called in? Don’t you see similarity with Teddy Rosevelt’s run to prevent Taft’s reelection and securing Wilson’s win? Do you know how Prince Bandar was coaching G.W. Bush to circumvent the enmity of neocons towards his father? Answer these questions and you will know for whom Bill Clinton worked. One more thing, Clinton did not touch Palestinian issue until last several months of his presidency. He did not make G.H. Bush’s mistake.

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    • Replies: @Clyde
    Your post exposes many real and potential false flag operations. My take is that the Telaviv zio- masters of Hasbara are behind them all. Damn hymie town over there!
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  2. They recruited a useful idiot, to be useful, idiotically.
    That is what idiots do: act idiotically. Good hustlers crack this code and put them to good use.
    This is not rocket science. It is widely known and widely understood.
    Please stop acting like it is incoherent or incomprehensible. It isn’t flattering to you.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    He is an idiot - from the DC' main stock of incompetent opportunists. Morell is a perfect fit for the Butcheress of Libya:
    "...as is characteristic of chickenhawks, it is highly unlikely that he was intending that either he or his immediate family should go out and cut the throats or blow the heads off of those foreign devils who seek to derail the Pax Americana. Nor would he expect to be in the firing line when the relatives of those victims seek revenge. Someone else with the proper training would be found to do all that messy stuff and take the consequences."
    There have been no consequences for the crimes committed by the murderous psychopaths - that's the problem!
  3. This a straightforward factual article about the Clinton sellout to Israel.

    So the question may come down to the effectiveness of MSM propaganda.

    It looks very much like the US public is starting to mirror the Eastern European public under Communism by automatically disregarding government media + there’s the added feature of the internet as a new kind of high-powered Samizdat, that clearly worries the Establishment.

    If the script follows through, then there’s a good likelihood that the Establishment and their façade players (Clintons, Bush, Romney, McCain etc) are reaching the end of the line, since like in E.Europe, there’s a background problem of economic failure and extreme élite/public inequality that can no longer be hidden.

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    • Replies: @Barzini
    The MSM media in the so-called Free World is actually more effective in duping the population than the media in the former Communist countries. In the latter, the media were under the formal control of the government. As this fact could not be hidden, most citizens at least tended to discount what they read in the state-controlled newspapers because it was clear that they were not impartial. With the MSM in our own country, by contrast, they are not under formal government control and thus appear to be impartial. This means that in the past, people have taken them more seriously and thus the propaganda emanating from them has been more effective. Of course, most people in Western countries have caught on to the fact that the MSM are just propaganda outlets for the state, and are now disregarding them, just as they did in the former Communist countries. The game is up.
  4. While I don’t go in for extreme conspiracy theories, the article is convincing, and, if the Clintons cause WWIII, the survivors will apportion blame in a manner which resurrects prejudices which had been presumed buried by WWII events.

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    • Replies: @brian
    We might actually be having WW3 right now. Very. very, few will survive an all out WW3. There can be no Jewish State until the Messiah appears. Everywhere is real! Free Palestine! Hello yourself! Where is that Messiah?
  5. terrorist [ter-er-ist] /ˈtɛr ər ɪst/ noun
    1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.
    2. a person who terrorizes or frightens others.

    The israeli criminal syndicate are the worst terrorists on the face of the earth, bar none. Their employees, the clinton’s, are the 2nd worst terrorists. morrell is a terrorist along with the rest of the cia, fbi, dhs, nsa, pentagon, etc… Everyone who supports or is involved in the attacks on Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Central and South America, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Africa, etc… are terrorists. nato = north american terrorist organization. gwb, obum, bush1, and many previous puppet presidents, their administrations, congress, etc… are and were terrorists. drone attacks = terrorism. Groups who advocate and order terrorism: cfr, ngo’s, other think tanks, goldman sachs, imf, council of 13, trilateral commission, committee of 300, black nobility, federal reserve, central banks, world bank, bilderberg, wall street, city of london (bank of england), congress, the military, military industrial complex, militarized police, the media, corporations, so many more, too many to list here, but list them we should, and prosecute.

    The federal reserve/rothschilds/bis, and central bank of Russia are currently terrorizing Russia by devaluing their money and crashing their economy: http://katehon.com/article/purging-russia-evil-rothschild-money-changers. The ambassador to Moscow, john tefft, is said to have made it very clear in this statement: “we will displace Putin from office and install our own people as leaders of the Russian government.” If that’s not terrorism, what is? I’ve lost track of how many countries have had their democratically elected leaders “displaced” similarly by us, with despotic puppets installed. Terrorism.

    soros, kissinger, rockefeller, kochs, the .000001% who support terrorism (all of them?), are terrorists. saudi arabia, qatar, bahrain, jordan, etc… Being elected President and allowing others to make the decisions, is the highest crime. Look what those decisions led to.

    We call the mercenaries terrorists but worst even is those who hire and instructs them. We as a country pay taxes for terrorism so that makes us terrorists. We have blood on our hands on a massive scale. We are non-stop attacking other countries simultaneously. This is not only terrorism, this is genocide on a massive scale. Stealing their resources is a huge crime against humanity. The drug trafficking, human trafficking, money laundering, so much more. It’s really quite mind boggling how evil we have become under this rotten to the core israeli control. We imprison people for having medicinal herb and all these mass murderers are not only walking around free, but they’re running our government and everything else. No wonder why we’re hated all over the world. I feel the same towards them. They’ve ruined our country!

    We need to impeach these criminals right away. We have to print our own money. Our banks should be modeled after the Bank of North Dakota. We have to fix this mess.

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    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    imo Koch brothers are in a different category.

    Reading Dark Money, Jane Mayer's hit-piece on the Kochs, convinced me of this, tho I might be committing the fallacy of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." er sumthing.
    , @Eileen Kuch
    Barbara, I couldn't agree with you more. You said it all. These criminals need to be ousted, then prosecuted. The Rothschild Central Bank, aka "Federal Reserve" must be abolished (it's illegal, anyway), and we have to go back to printing our own money, as the Constitution dictates.
    Never mind that John F. Kennedy was assassinated for issuing/signing an Executive Order abolishing the RCB and printing our own money, as well as demanding that Israel open its nuclear facility at Dimona to inspections for illegal nuclear weapons, among other actions; we have to fix this mess and get right with the rest of the world again.
  6. Were Hillary (and Bill, too) the spy working for Israel inside the Clinton WH referred to as MEGA? I think I can remember Phil talking about MEGA before in an interview when asked; he coyly hinted at several possible people but it seemed like he might know with certainty. I don’t remember Hillary being one of the names. But I wonder if Phil might be suggesting it in a roundabout way here.

    The only halfway legitimate-looking result for this question when Googling, interestingly enough, quotes an Israeli who says that MEGA was not an agent per se, but “the boss”.

    Not exactly focused on the Clintons after that, though. Still might be relevant.

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    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    hbm - the FBI concluded that someone working in the White House was MEGA but they decided that they did not necessarily have enough evidence to convince a jury. He is still around and appears in the media. As I would prefer not to get sued I will not name him but he is not a Clinton (though he worked for them as well as for the two Bushes).
    , @alexander
    Can you explain to me a bit more about MEGA ?

    Who, or what it was, and what acts it was accused,or guilty,of committing .

    And, if there was an FBI investigation, what conclusions did they come to?
    , @empty

    [MEGA] became a senior advisor to Clinton at the White House from 1993 to 1998.[31] In the White House, MEGA was initially Assistant to the President for Political Affairs[32] and then Senior Advisor to the President for Policy and Strategy.[33] He was a leading strategist in White House efforts to institute NAFTA[34][35] and universal health care[citation needed], among other Clinton initiatives.[36]
     
    what I've read

    MEGA took part in a two-week civilian volunteer holiday, known as the Sar-El, where, as a civilian volunteer, he assisted the Israel Defense Forces during the 1991 Gulf War
     
  7. Anyone can wear a yarmulke for ten minutes on a certain solemn occasion, wedding or funeral and more, even Vladimir Putin. Even Phillip Giraldi may have, my bet is at least one or twice. There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.
    So which side are you on boys which side are you on?

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    • Replies: @CK
    Actually the Jews and the Arabs are cousins, Christianity and Christians are apostates.
    Me against my brothers, me and my brothers against my cousins, me and my brothers and my cousins against the world. How it was how it is how it always shall be.
    , @utu
    "There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp." - Yes there is the division but it was created by Israel and Jews. Most Christians do not want to be in the same camp with Jews.
    , @ISmellBagels
    Idiot. Compare the Jewish opinion of Jesus Christ with the Muslim opinion of Jesus Christ. Can't fix stupid, proven fact.
    , @schmenz
    "The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp."

    I would respectfully suggest you are unfamiliar with the history of the past 2,000 years, to have written such a sentence.
    , @Jacques Sheete

    The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.
     
    Please provide your definition of a Jew.

    Also, it's my understanding that many of the founders of Zionism and the State of Israel as well as much of the current leadership are atheists. Am I wrong?

    If they are atheists, then how does that put them into the "Christian" camp, or are they just convenient bedfellows for the time being?

    I also wondering if we, as Saul of Tarsus, admonished, shouldn't be aware of those who call themselves Jews but are not.

    I also find it interesting that the major branches of the Abrahamic beliefs often have wildly differing claims and contentions although it doesn't surprise me since nothing's really changed from the time Cain killed Abel.
    , @Art
    The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.

    That is total propaganda - Jews hate Jesus - he is the ultimate self-hating Jew to them. There is no person in human history that they hate more.

    Jews had Jesus killed because his ways were different from the harsh top-down ways of the politically correct elite and the temple priests. (Sound familiar?)

    The most vile things are said of Jesus in the Talmud.

    The “separation of church and state arguments” are fueled by Jews wanting to shut down Christianity.

    The Jews have thrived in America – yet they want to kill the Christian golden goose – these people are both hateful sick and stupid.

    Art
    , @annamaria
    You mean, why these goyim Americans have the temerity to question the principal agents of Zion parasitoid?
    , @Mary
    Clyde, it's obvious you don't know any muslims and also obvious you are not a true Christian. In my limited experience of living in a Muslim country for eight years, I would say, WITHOUT A DOUBT, that the VAST amount of Muslims that I knew were WAY more Christ-like than the VAST amount of "Christians" that I know. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
  8. The Deep State has been serving both Israel and Saudi interests for a long time. The Clintons are nothing special in that department. What makes the Clintons unusual is their firm devotion to China. Other Deepstaters seem to be ambiguous or pragmatic about China.

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    What makes the Clintons unusual is their firm devotion to China
     
    Eh? Wasn't it from Hillary's Bag of Good Green Ideas that emerged the "Pivot to Asia" (i.e. make sure China doesn't get too uppity in our Pacific)?
  9. @hbm
    Were Hillary (and Bill, too) the spy working for Israel inside the Clinton WH referred to as MEGA? I think I can remember Phil talking about MEGA before in an interview when asked; he coyly hinted at several possible people but it seemed like he might know with certainty. I don't remember Hillary being one of the names. But I wonder if Phil might be suggesting it in a roundabout way here.

    The only halfway legitimate-looking result for this question when Googling, interestingly enough, quotes an Israeli who says that MEGA was not an agent per se, but "the boss".

    Not exactly focused on the Clintons after that, though. Still might be relevant.

    hbm – the FBI concluded that someone working in the White House was MEGA but they decided that they did not necessarily have enough evidence to convince a jury. He is still around and appears in the media. As I would prefer not to get sued I will not name him but he is not a Clinton (though he worked for them as well as for the two Bushes).

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    There was the hedge fund cast of Bronfman/Steinhardt & co, closely liaising with Emet the Israeli group; and all three were also taking orders from MI or RC. So my guess would be MI.

    This is killing me ;-0

  10. That Israel controls not only our foreign policy but also the WH, Congress and has a definitive interest in the Federal Reserve is not open for debate, what should be debated is how much longer Americans are going to let a foreign power use and abuse us for their own ends.

    If you want to see mushroom clouds appear on the horizon, all we have to do is to keep on this insane track.

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  11. @hbm
    Were Hillary (and Bill, too) the spy working for Israel inside the Clinton WH referred to as MEGA? I think I can remember Phil talking about MEGA before in an interview when asked; he coyly hinted at several possible people but it seemed like he might know with certainty. I don't remember Hillary being one of the names. But I wonder if Phil might be suggesting it in a roundabout way here.

    The only halfway legitimate-looking result for this question when Googling, interestingly enough, quotes an Israeli who says that MEGA was not an agent per se, but "the boss".

    Not exactly focused on the Clintons after that, though. Still might be relevant.

    Can you explain to me a bit more about MEGA ?

    Who, or what it was, and what acts it was accused,or guilty,of committing .

    And, if there was an FBI investigation, what conclusions did they come to?

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I don't really know much, honestly, other than MEGA was an Israeli spy in the White House at the highest levels during the Clinton (and Bush, too, I guess) administrations. Supposedly MEGA was how Jonathan Pollard knew exactly what files to steal to give to Israel, with MEGA taking requests from Tel Aviv about what intelligence they wanted, and I guess relaying to Pollard to lift it. Not sure that's exactly right-- but the players are correct I think.

    People have speculated about who exactly MEGA was/is for a long time, with the names of Jewish-American deep state types prominent. That's really all I know about it. I'd heard Phil talk about MEGA once before when asked years ago and it came to my mind reading this article. I guess, as unconscionably corrupt as they are, the Clintons themselves were not MEGA.
  12. Clinton email shows US sought Syria regime change for Israel’s sake:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2016/03/22/clinton-email-shows-us-sought-syria-regime-change-for-israels-sake/

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    • Replies: @AmericaFirstNow
    ‎Excellent interview with Max Blumenthal about Haim Saban and 'crooked Hillary':

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ljX4NHWzUE&feature=youtu.be

    http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/protests-target-clinton-fundraiser-hollywood-home-pro-israel-mega-donor

    http://america-hijacked.com/2015/06/15/hawkish-hillary-clinton-and-her-israel-first-political-sugar-daddy-haim-saban/

    So no surprise neocons are advising Hillary as well:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2016/04/12/would-a-clinton-win-mean-more-neocon-inspired-wars/#comment-161402

    But also see following one for the Israel 1sters influencing Trump as well:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2016/08/01/who-is-running-trumps-campaign/
  13. @hbm
    Were Hillary (and Bill, too) the spy working for Israel inside the Clinton WH referred to as MEGA? I think I can remember Phil talking about MEGA before in an interview when asked; he coyly hinted at several possible people but it seemed like he might know with certainty. I don't remember Hillary being one of the names. But I wonder if Phil might be suggesting it in a roundabout way here.

    The only halfway legitimate-looking result for this question when Googling, interestingly enough, quotes an Israeli who says that MEGA was not an agent per se, but "the boss".

    Not exactly focused on the Clintons after that, though. Still might be relevant.

    [MEGA] became a senior advisor to Clinton at the White House from 1993 to 1998.[31] In the White House, MEGA was initially Assistant to the President for Political Affairs[32] and then Senior Advisor to the President for Policy and Strategy.[33] He was a leading strategist in White House efforts to institute NAFTA[34][35] and universal health care[citation needed], among other Clinton initiatives.[36]

    what I’ve read

    MEGA took part in a two-week civilian volunteer holiday, known as the Sar-El, where, as a civilian volunteer, he assisted the Israel Defense Forces during the 1991 Gulf War

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    • Replies: @Hbm
    Where's that from? The second one means Rahm Emmanuel, then? Or is it a different American patriot?
    , @Alden
    Was it Rahm Emmanuel? I wonder what he did during that war? The IDF is very very careful to give the American volunteers a bit of combat experience but never to get them near the action.

    Wouldn't want Hadassah to turn off the shekel faucet would they.
  14. @Clyde
    Anyone can wear a yarmulke for ten minutes on a certain solemn occasion, wedding or funeral and more, even Vladimir Putin. Even Phillip Giraldi may have, my bet is at least one or twice. There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.
    So which side are you on boys which side are you on?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbddqXib814

    Actually the Jews and the Arabs are cousins, Christianity and Christians are apostates.
    Me against my brothers, me and my brothers against my cousins, me and my brothers and my cousins against the world. How it was how it is how it always shall be.

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    @alexander
    Can you explain to me a bit more about MEGA ?

    Who, or what it was, and what acts it was accused,or guilty,of committing .

    And, if there was an FBI investigation, what conclusions did they come to?

    I don’t really know much, honestly, other than MEGA was an Israeli spy in the White House at the highest levels during the Clinton (and Bush, too, I guess) administrations. Supposedly MEGA was how Jonathan Pollard knew exactly what files to steal to give to Israel, with MEGA taking requests from Tel Aviv about what intelligence they wanted, and I guess relaying to Pollard to lift it. Not sure that’s exactly right– but the players are correct I think.

    People have speculated about who exactly MEGA was/is for a long time, with the names of Jewish-American deep state types prominent. That’s really all I know about it. I’d heard Phil talk about MEGA once before when asked years ago and it came to my mind reading this article. I guess, as unconscionably corrupt as they are, the Clintons themselves were not MEGA.

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  16. @empty

    [MEGA] became a senior advisor to Clinton at the White House from 1993 to 1998.[31] In the White House, MEGA was initially Assistant to the President for Political Affairs[32] and then Senior Advisor to the President for Policy and Strategy.[33] He was a leading strategist in White House efforts to institute NAFTA[34][35] and universal health care[citation needed], among other Clinton initiatives.[36]
     
    what I've read

    MEGA took part in a two-week civilian volunteer holiday, known as the Sar-El, where, as a civilian volunteer, he assisted the Israel Defense Forces during the 1991 Gulf War
     

    Where’s that from? The second one means Rahm Emmanuel, then? Or is it a different American patriot?

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    it's from Wikipedia -- some years ago I read these speculations that identified MEGA as R.E., but somehow he feels too "high profile" for the task ...
  17. @Anonymous
    I don't really know much, honestly, other than MEGA was an Israeli spy in the White House at the highest levels during the Clinton (and Bush, too, I guess) administrations. Supposedly MEGA was how Jonathan Pollard knew exactly what files to steal to give to Israel, with MEGA taking requests from Tel Aviv about what intelligence they wanted, and I guess relaying to Pollard to lift it. Not sure that's exactly right-- but the players are correct I think.

    People have speculated about who exactly MEGA was/is for a long time, with the names of Jewish-American deep state types prominent. That's really all I know about it. I'd heard Phil talk about MEGA once before when asked years ago and it came to my mind reading this article. I guess, as unconscionably corrupt as they are, the Clintons themselves were not MEGA.

    Thanks for the response.

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  18. You could easily make the case that the vast majority of sitting Congressman and media members witting agents of Israel. Partisan division and rancor suddenly disappear when Israel’s interests are at stake. But then we’re always lectured that what’s good for Israel is good for America.

    Israel is the new General Motors!

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  19. @Clyde
    Anyone can wear a yarmulke for ten minutes on a certain solemn occasion, wedding or funeral and more, even Vladimir Putin. Even Phillip Giraldi may have, my bet is at least one or twice. There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.
    So which side are you on boys which side are you on?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbddqXib814

    “There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.” – Yes there is the division but it was created by Israel and Jews. Most Christians do not want to be in the same camp with Jews.

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  20. “Primordial political swamps in Arkansas” — that’s classic, Phil! Thanks for another insightful article.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    “Primordial political swamps in Arkansas” — that’s classic, Phil!

    Sure, all in with the MSM stereotypes. That’s the way to fight them!
  21. @Hbm
    Where's that from? The second one means Rahm Emmanuel, then? Or is it a different American patriot?

    it’s from Wikipedia — some years ago I read these speculations that identified MEGA as R.E., but somehow he feels too “high profile” for the task …

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    It's not RE
    , @empty
    also I remember a conspiracy theory that stated that when R.E. was about to be outed, Monica was recruited for a diversion job ... she was celebrated as ESTHER when she visited Israel afterwards ...

    The heroine of the book named for her, Esther is a young Jewish woman living in exile in the Persian diaspora, who through her youth and beauty becomes queen of the Persian Empire, and then by her wits and courage saves the Jewish people from destruction
     
    http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/esther-bible
    , @AmericaFirstNow
    The Israel 1st traitor to America suspected of being the Israeli mole MEGA is mentioned in following piece by Jeffrey Steinberg (even though LaRouche is a kook Steinberg usually seems to know what is going on with Israel):

    http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html
  22. @empty
    it's from Wikipedia -- some years ago I read these speculations that identified MEGA as R.E., but somehow he feels too "high profile" for the task ...

    It’s not RE

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    ok ... it always felt a bit ridiculous teory
    , @Sam Shama
    Was it EA?

    An Iran-Contra convict? pardoned by Bush 41? [] named by Bush 43 as the Special Assistant to the President? As a founding Israel’s 2006 bombing of Lebanon into Syria and advocated a Fatah coup after Hamas won the February 2006 Palestinian elections?

    , @MInnesota Mary
    Is MEGA still alive?
  23. @empty
    it's from Wikipedia -- some years ago I read these speculations that identified MEGA as R.E., but somehow he feels too "high profile" for the task ...

    also I remember a conspiracy theory that stated that when R.E. was about to be outed, Monica was recruited for a diversion job … she was celebrated as ESTHER when she visited Israel afterwards …

    The heroine of the book named for her, Esther is a young Jewish woman living in exile in the Persian diaspora, who through her youth and beauty becomes queen of the Persian Empire, and then by her wits and courage saves the Jewish people from destruction

    http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/esther-bible

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  24. Unfortunately, Trump is so far in the bag for Israel himself, that he would likely not point out the fact that Bill and Hillary Clinton, and most of the elites, are no better than agents and traitors for Israel. Doing so would be the obvious response for any number of damaging claims made against Trump, no matter if the charges against him are true or false.

    Is America so far gone that pointing out treason for Israel would lose the election for the accuser, and provide victory for the accused?

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    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    Don't know how to completely track back to and identify his handlers, but it seems certain that Evan McMullin's last-minute presidential candidacy is a spanner, tossed most likely by Israel firsters, to tilt the election to Clinton

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9pNKTNlp6w
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    Saying he “ran” the CIA appears to be an exaggeration therefore Morell has credibility issues right from the outset-elsewhere likely to be described as a tendency to lie. His babbling about the Russian connection is bizarre and his loose talk about murdering people he doesn’t like is just stupid. These are the kinds of people we have in responsible government positions? The Clintons themselves seem to have been the ultimate sleazy power couple, always looking for their next benefactor. Foreign money and intrigue have permeated the government for a long time now with many countries bidding on our politicians as Sibel Edmonds has shown, including those who fly under the radar of public consciousness. One’s eyes just glaze over when looking at the issue and the Clinton’s history of moral corruption just goes on and on endlessly.

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    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
    " . . . The Clintons themselves seem to have been the ultimate sleazy power couple, always looking for their next benefactor. . . . One's eyes just glaze over when looking at the issue and the Clinton's history of moral corruption just goes on and on endlessly."

    "Blow Job Bill" and The Pantsuited One are rotten to the core. So are the governments they preside over.
  26. Reading this reminds me of Pat Buchanan’s sardonic (and accurate) description of the US Congress: Israeli occupied territory.

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  27. @Barbara
    terrorist [ter-er-ist] /ˈtɛr ər ɪst/ noun
    1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.
    2. a person who terrorizes or frightens others.

    The israeli criminal syndicate are the worst terrorists on the face of the earth, bar none. Their employees, the clinton's, are the 2nd worst terrorists. morrell is a terrorist along with the rest of the cia, fbi, dhs, nsa, pentagon, etc... Everyone who supports or is involved in the attacks on Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Central and South America, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Africa, etc... are terrorists. nato = north american terrorist organization. gwb, obum, bush1, and many previous puppet presidents, their administrations, congress, etc... are and were terrorists. drone attacks = terrorism. Groups who advocate and order terrorism: cfr, ngo's, other think tanks, goldman sachs, imf, council of 13, trilateral commission, committee of 300, black nobility, federal reserve, central banks, world bank, bilderberg, wall street, city of london (bank of england), congress, the military, military industrial complex, militarized police, the media, corporations, so many more, too many to list here, but list them we should, and prosecute.

    The federal reserve/rothschilds/bis, and central bank of Russia are currently terrorizing Russia by devaluing their money and crashing their economy: http://katehon.com/article/purging-russia-evil-rothschild-money-changers. The ambassador to Moscow, john tefft, is said to have made it very clear in this statement: “we will displace Putin from office and install our own people as leaders of the Russian government.” If that's not terrorism, what is? I've lost track of how many countries have had their democratically elected leaders "displaced" similarly by us, with despotic puppets installed. Terrorism.

    soros, kissinger, rockefeller, kochs, the .000001% who support terrorism (all of them?), are terrorists. saudi arabia, qatar, bahrain, jordan, etc... Being elected President and allowing others to make the decisions, is the highest crime. Look what those decisions led to.

    We call the mercenaries terrorists but worst even is those who hire and instructs them. We as a country pay taxes for terrorism so that makes us terrorists. We have blood on our hands on a massive scale. We are non-stop attacking other countries simultaneously. This is not only terrorism, this is genocide on a massive scale. Stealing their resources is a huge crime against humanity. The drug trafficking, human trafficking, money laundering, so much more. It's really quite mind boggling how evil we have become under this rotten to the core israeli control. We imprison people for having medicinal herb and all these mass murderers are not only walking around free, but they're running our government and everything else. No wonder why we're hated all over the world. I feel the same towards them. They've ruined our country!

    We need to impeach these criminals right away. We have to print our own money. Our banks should be modeled after the Bank of North Dakota. We have to fix this mess.

    imo Koch brothers are in a different category.

    Reading Dark Money, Jane Mayer’s hit-piece on the Kochs, convinced me of this, tho I might be committing the fallacy of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” er sumthing.

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  28. @OilcanFloyd
    Unfortunately, Trump is so far in the bag for Israel himself, that he would likely not point out the fact that Bill and Hillary Clinton, and most of the elites, are no better than agents and traitors for Israel. Doing so would be the obvious response for any number of damaging claims made against Trump, no matter if the charges against him are true or false.

    Is America so far gone that pointing out treason for Israel would lose the election for the accuser, and provide victory for the accused?

    Don’t know how to completely track back to and identify his handlers, but it seems certain that Evan McMullin’s last-minute presidential candidacy is a spanner, tossed most likely by Israel firsters, to tilt the election to Clinton

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  29. @Clyde
    Anyone can wear a yarmulke for ten minutes on a certain solemn occasion, wedding or funeral and more, even Vladimir Putin. Even Phillip Giraldi may have, my bet is at least one or twice. There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.
    So which side are you on boys which side are you on?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbddqXib814

    Idiot. Compare the Jewish opinion of Jesus Christ with the Muslim opinion of Jesus Christ. Can’t fix stupid, proven fact.

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    Idiot. Compare the Jewish opinion of Jesus Christ with the Muslim opinion of Jesus Christ. Can’t fix stupid, proven fact.
     
    Meanwhile in the real world Muslims are decimating Christians in Syria/Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East. But as a godless atheist what do you care? Hitler also liked the Muslims with their barracks religion.
    , @Alden
    Here's what the Talmud says about Jesus.
    His mother Miriam was a skank prostitute. She was so ugly retarded dear asked that her only customers were horror of horrors!!!! Blue collar workers, the lowest of the low, lower than beggars and criminals
    Father squirted and scrammed. Miriam sold Jesus to an Egyptian circus when he was 3 or 4. He worked for a magician till he came back to Judea/Palestine about age 30. He used his magician tricks to fool the lowly to become Christians

    This evil heretic Jesus will spend eternity in a boiling vat of human waste and various other horrible punishments
  30. @utu
    Find the true reason why G.H. Bush was not allowed to get the 2nd term. Do you remember his attempt to reign in Yitzhak Shamir when GHB was riding high popularity wave after the Desert Storm? Do you remember anti-Bush Safire and Friedman columns in NYT week after week? Why Ross Perrot was called in? Don't you see similarity with Teddy Rosevelt's run to prevent Taft's reelection and securing Wilson's win? Do you know how Prince Bandar was coaching G.W. Bush to circumvent the enmity of neocons towards his father? Answer these questions and you will know for whom Bill Clinton worked. One more thing, Clinton did not touch Palestinian issue until last several months of his presidency. He did not make G.H. Bush's mistake.

    Your post exposes many real and potential false flag operations. My take is that the Telaviv zio- masters of Hasbara are behind them all. Damn hymie town over there!

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  31. Trump has boasted that he will be a great friend of Israel should he become president.

    Hillary has a history of supporting Israel and also boasts that she will support Israel.

    So no matter who wins in November Israel will have a friend in the White House.

    Great news!

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    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    Well I agree with you that either way Israel will have a friend in the WH. However friendship implies a two way street, and Israel should henceforth stop taking, and U.S. stop giving the silly $4.5b "aid" . It does very little for Israel, and in fact arguably negative in it's impact. I cringe whenever the servile behaviour of Congress and Senate is on display on any matter relating to Israel.

    Furthermore Trump would be the right person to bring closure on the Palestinian issue.

  32. @Seamus Padraig
    "Primordial political swamps in Arkansas" -- that's classic, Phil! Thanks for another insightful article.

    “Primordial political swamps in Arkansas” — that’s classic, Phil!

    Sure, all in with the MSM stereotypes. That’s the way to fight them!

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    “There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.”

    The following would be more accurate;
    There is a big division in this world between Pagans\Polytheists (which definitely includes the Christian world) and Monotheists (primarily Islam).
    The Jews and Israel, notwithstanding their claim to strict Monotheism, are clearly in the polytheist camp (Christian west, India…), simply because there is much more to gain in all worldly affairs.

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  34. @ISmellBagels
    Idiot. Compare the Jewish opinion of Jesus Christ with the Muslim opinion of Jesus Christ. Can't fix stupid, proven fact.

    Idiot. Compare the Jewish opinion of Jesus Christ with the Muslim opinion of Jesus Christ. Can’t fix stupid, proven fact.

    Meanwhile in the real world Muslims are decimating Christians in Syria/Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East. But as a godless atheist what do you care? Hitler also liked the Muslims with their barracks religion.

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    I ain't an atheist. You made that up for your straw man. You continue to impress with your injection of *****HITLER****into the conversation. IQ-75's should refrain from posting.
    , @annamaria
    "...in the real world Muslims are decimating Christians in Syria/Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East..."
    Yes they are.
    Recall that Europe had her two Great wars: "The total number of military and civilian casualties in World War I was more than 38 million." "War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total dead ranging from 50 million to more than 80 million."
    As for the current mess in the Middle East, was not this particular situation was described as desirable in Yinon Plan? At least muslims did not create Hitler and Stalin to ruin Europe; these two gentlemen were Christians. And muslims did not come to the US and Europe to do regime changes and other "humanitarian" improvements. In contrast, West has initiated the ongoing slaughter in the Middle East. There was no ISIS before the neo-and ziocons had succeeded in pushing the military interventions in the Middle East.
    Again, to what creed do Bushes, Cheneys, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Clintons belong? - They are Christians. There is also a considerable numbers of untouchables (accepting no accountability), which have been extremely active in creating the ongoing bloodbath in the Middle East: Krisol, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Krauthummer, Perle, Feith, Haas, Kagans, Pletka.... A hungry swarm of psychopaths and opportunists that are not muslims at all. They are Zionists.
  35. @Clyde
    Anyone can wear a yarmulke for ten minutes on a certain solemn occasion, wedding or funeral and more, even Vladimir Putin. Even Phillip Giraldi may have, my bet is at least one or twice. There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.
    So which side are you on boys which side are you on?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbddqXib814

    “The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.”

    I would respectfully suggest you are unfamiliar with the history of the past 2,000 years, to have written such a sentence.

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    The Clintons are the end(!) product of a process begun in the days immediately following the end of WWII…..the murder of Gen.Patton was one of the first steps in this process…followed soon after by the murder of Forrestal…then came JFK…RFK….JFK Jr…just to name a few……
    After awhile murder was not necessary anymore as politicians “got the message”…….
    With our government in-line,the next step was to get the people in line…..hence 9/11…
    Her ascent has been carefully planned. How many other “1st Ladies” have gone on from WH “duties” to one of the most powerful seats in congress?(NY Sen.) Then to cabinet level?
    In January,when she is christened…(oops…I meant “inaugurated”)…the process is complete…
    ….following her will be her son-in-law…..
    Thank you Phil…

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  37. Hillary Clinton, when it comes to Israeli interests, has more impeccable credentials than all her opponents. Besides her Jewish family roots along with her daughter married to a rich Zionist Jew – she had destroyed Libya for Israel and currently working on bringing a pro-Israel regime change in Syria.

    A March 27, 2011, intelligence brief, Sidney Stone Blumenthal, the Jewish aid to her husband, former president Bill Clinton of Monica Lewinsky fame, and long-time Hillary’s confident shows her dirty fingers behind the destruction of Africa’s most rich and liberal Muslim-majority Libyan nation and the brutal murder of its leader Muammar Qaddafi.

    During the world powers negotiations in Istanbul in 2012, according to Wikileaks, US secretary of state (2009-2013) Hillary Clinton sent an e-mail, saying: “The best way to help Israel deal with Iran’s growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad.”

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/05/19/hillary-destroy-syria-for-israel-like-libya/

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  38. @Clyde
    Anyone can wear a yarmulke for ten minutes on a certain solemn occasion, wedding or funeral and more, even Vladimir Putin. Even Phillip Giraldi may have, my bet is at least one or twice. There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.
    So which side are you on boys which side are you on?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbddqXib814

    The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.

    Please provide your definition of a Jew.

    Also, it’s my understanding that many of the founders of Zionism and the State of Israel as well as much of the current leadership are atheists. Am I wrong?

    If they are atheists, then how does that put them into the “Christian” camp, or are they just convenient bedfellows for the time being?

    I also wondering if we, as Saul of Tarsus, admonished, shouldn’t be aware of those who call themselves Jews but are not.

    I also find it interesting that the major branches of the Abrahamic beliefs often have wildly differing claims and contentions although it doesn’t surprise me since nothing’s really changed from the time Cain killed Abel.

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    If you read Acts, you will see several instances when the early Christians feared the Jews. There is and will always be enmity between Christians and Jews because of their deep differences about Jesus. The newly politically correct Christian Church tries to push a shared heritage, and the Jews are more than glad to have the Christians and Muslims differ where there is no difference.
  39. @Philip Giraldi
    It's not RE

    Was it EA?

    An Iran-Contra convict? pardoned by Bush 41? [] named by Bush 43 as the Special Assistant to the President? As a founding Israel’s 2006 bombing of Lebanon into Syria and advocated a Fatah coup after Hamas won the February 2006 Palestinian elections?

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  40. More than nine hundred civilians died in the onslaught and when a vote came up subsequently in Congress to stop the supply of cluster bombs to countries that use them on civilians Hillary voted against the bill together with 69 other pro-Israel senators.

    Thanks Jews – your humanity is so evident – NOT.

    When the Israeli Jews left Lebanon after attacking it, they peppered the countryside with cluster bombs – the evil frigging bastards! They killed people for years after.

    p.s. Death to their enemies is a major part of the Jew character. They have celebrated the death of Egyptian children for 3,000 years – Passover. How sick.

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  41. @Sherman
    Trump has boasted that he will be a great friend of Israel should he become president.

    Hillary has a history of supporting Israel and also boasts that she will support Israel.

    So no matter who wins in November Israel will have a friend in the White House.

    Great news!

    Well I agree with you that either way Israel will have a friend in the WH. However friendship implies a two way street, and Israel should henceforth stop taking, and U.S. stop giving the silly $4.5b “aid” . It does very little for Israel, and in fact arguably negative in it’s impact. I cringe whenever the servile behaviour of Congress and Senate is on display on any matter relating to Israel.

    Furthermore Trump would be the right person to bring closure on the Palestinian issue.

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  42. @Sam Shama
    Was it EA?

    An Iran-Contra convict? pardoned by Bush 41? [] named by Bush 43 as the Special Assistant to the President? As a founding Israel’s 2006 bombing of Lebanon into Syria and advocated a Fatah coup after Hamas won the February 2006 Palestinian elections?

    Nope – guess again!

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  43. @Clyde
    Anyone can wear a yarmulke for ten minutes on a certain solemn occasion, wedding or funeral and more, even Vladimir Putin. Even Phillip Giraldi may have, my bet is at least one or twice. There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.
    So which side are you on boys which side are you on?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbddqXib814

    The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.

    That is total propaganda – Jews hate Jesus – he is the ultimate self-hating Jew to them. There is no person in human history that they hate more.

    Jews had Jesus killed because his ways were different from the harsh top-down ways of the politically correct elite and the temple priests. (Sound familiar?)

    The most vile things are said of Jesus in the Talmud.

    The “separation of church and state arguments” are fueled by Jews wanting to shut down Christianity.

    The Jews have thrived in America – yet they want to kill the Christian golden goose – these people are both hateful sick and stupid.

    Art

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    "The Jews have thrived in America – yet they want to kill the Christian golden goose – these people are both hateful sick and stupid."

    So true. They hate no one more than the white Christian. Their desire to kill off the group that so panders to them is proof of their mental irregularities.
  44. @Clyde

    Idiot. Compare the Jewish opinion of Jesus Christ with the Muslim opinion of Jesus Christ. Can’t fix stupid, proven fact.
     
    Meanwhile in the real world Muslims are decimating Christians in Syria/Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East. But as a godless atheist what do you care? Hitler also liked the Muslims with their barracks religion.

    I ain’t an atheist. You made that up for your straw man. You continue to impress with your injection of *****HITLER****into the conversation. IQ-75′s should refrain from posting.

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  45. @Art
    The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.

    That is total propaganda - Jews hate Jesus - he is the ultimate self-hating Jew to them. There is no person in human history that they hate more.

    Jews had Jesus killed because his ways were different from the harsh top-down ways of the politically correct elite and the temple priests. (Sound familiar?)

    The most vile things are said of Jesus in the Talmud.

    The “separation of church and state arguments” are fueled by Jews wanting to shut down Christianity.

    The Jews have thrived in America – yet they want to kill the Christian golden goose – these people are both hateful sick and stupid.

    Art

    “The Jews have thrived in America – yet they want to kill the Christian golden goose – these people are both hateful sick and stupid.”

    So true. They hate no one more than the white Christian. Their desire to kill off the group that so panders to them is proof of their mental irregularities.

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  46. That’s the beauty of being a Jew. You get the umbrella of persecuted minority status with out any liabilities on the account of the white majority. It can be a culture, religion or a race card for what ever is needed. You can blend in with the Wasps for white collar crime , but then claim antisemitism if you are caught. One account for assets and another for liabilities.

    That is all it really means anymore. Disliking “Jews” as a concept is ironically quite legitimate these days in the realm of politics because its nothing but a political gamesmanship. It is also becoming equally absurd to dislike Jews as a people because they can be atheists , secularists , black, white, or with Trump’s daughter adopting it, even orange.

    If you can’t quite pull of Jew, I think Hispanic is worth a try as well. It is interchangeable as a race/culture too. Speaking on Uno, to make it the same Draw-4 wild card , I would suggest a white Hispanic become a Zoroastrian. You now have a complete portfolio for the area of political identify. If that doesn’t work , transition to another sex while going Vegan.

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  47. “To be sure a well-run McCarthyesque ferreting out of individuals who just might be disloyal provides an excellent opportunity to undertake a purge of those who either by thought, word or deed might be guilty of unacceptable levels of coziness with foreign interests.”

    A great idea but the body that would be responsible for convening such a process is located in “Israeli occupied territory” and the WH is essentially in the same position.

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  48. @ISmellBagels
    Idiot. Compare the Jewish opinion of Jesus Christ with the Muslim opinion of Jesus Christ. Can't fix stupid, proven fact.

    Here’s what the Talmud says about Jesus.
    His mother Miriam was a skank prostitute. She was so ugly retarded dear asked that her only customers were horror of horrors!!!! Blue collar workers, the lowest of the low, lower than beggars and criminals
    Father squirted and scrammed. Miriam sold Jesus to an Egyptian circus when he was 3 or 4. He worked for a magician till he came back to Judea/Palestine about age 30. He used his magician tricks to fool the lowly to become Christians

    This evil heretic Jesus will spend eternity in a boiling vat of human waste and various other horrible punishments

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    I guess attending the Yom Kippur meal this year is out of the question :/
  49. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Philip Giraldi
    hbm - the FBI concluded that someone working in the White House was MEGA but they decided that they did not necessarily have enough evidence to convince a jury. He is still around and appears in the media. As I would prefer not to get sued I will not name him but he is not a Clinton (though he worked for them as well as for the two Bushes).

    There was the hedge fund cast of Bronfman/Steinhardt & co, closely liaising with Emet the Israeli group; and all three were also taking orders from MI or RC. So my guess would be MI.

    This is killing me ;-0

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  50. @Anonymous
    There was the hedge fund cast of Bronfman/Steinhardt & co, closely liaising with Emet the Israeli group; and all three were also taking orders from MI or RC. So my guess would be MI.

    This is killing me ;-0

    Nope

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  51. Sorry – but it is comical that we are looking for ONE lone mole in the White House – when there is a whole Deep Jew State running our government.

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  52. @Alden
    Here's what the Talmud says about Jesus.
    His mother Miriam was a skank prostitute. She was so ugly retarded dear asked that her only customers were horror of horrors!!!! Blue collar workers, the lowest of the low, lower than beggars and criminals
    Father squirted and scrammed. Miriam sold Jesus to an Egyptian circus when he was 3 or 4. He worked for a magician till he came back to Judea/Palestine about age 30. He used his magician tricks to fool the lowly to become Christians

    This evil heretic Jesus will spend eternity in a boiling vat of human waste and various other horrible punishments

    I guess attending the Yom Kippur meal this year is out of the question :/

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  53. @Roger
    They recruited a useful idiot, to be useful, idiotically.
    That is what idiots do: act idiotically. Good hustlers crack this code and put them to good use.
    This is not rocket science. It is widely known and widely understood.
    Please stop acting like it is incoherent or incomprehensible. It isn't flattering to you.

    He is an idiot – from the DC’ main stock of incompetent opportunists. Morell is a perfect fit for the Butcheress of Libya:
    “…as is characteristic of chickenhawks, it is highly unlikely that he was intending that either he or his immediate family should go out and cut the throats or blow the heads off of those foreign devils who seek to derail the Pax Americana. Nor would he expect to be in the firing line when the relatives of those victims seek revenge. Someone else with the proper training would be found to do all that messy stuff and take the consequences.”
    There have been no consequences for the crimes committed by the murderous psychopaths – that’s the problem!

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    "there have been no consequences for the crimes committed by these murderous psychopaths-thats the problem!"

    EXACTLY RIGHT, Anna.

    They are absolutely mortified at the possibility of being held to account for what they have done.

    This is why its absolutely IMPERATIVE for them to get Queen Hillary in the White House, because they know she is the "zero accountability Queen".

    They will spare NO expense, none whatsoever, to shoe her in.

  54. @Clyde
    Anyone can wear a yarmulke for ten minutes on a certain solemn occasion, wedding or funeral and more, even Vladimir Putin. Even Phillip Giraldi may have, my bet is at least one or twice. There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.
    So which side are you on boys which side are you on?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbddqXib814

    You mean, why these goyim Americans have the temerity to question the principal agents of Zion parasitoid?

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  55. @Clyde

    Idiot. Compare the Jewish opinion of Jesus Christ with the Muslim opinion of Jesus Christ. Can’t fix stupid, proven fact.
     
    Meanwhile in the real world Muslims are decimating Christians in Syria/Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East. But as a godless atheist what do you care? Hitler also liked the Muslims with their barracks religion.

    “…in the real world Muslims are decimating Christians in Syria/Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East…”
    Yes they are.
    Recall that Europe had her two Great wars: “The total number of military and civilian casualties in World War I was more than 38 million.” “War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total dead ranging from 50 million to more than 80 million.”
    As for the current mess in the Middle East, was not this particular situation was described as desirable in Yinon Plan? At least muslims did not create Hitler and Stalin to ruin Europe; these two gentlemen were Christians. And muslims did not come to the US and Europe to do regime changes and other “humanitarian” improvements. In contrast, West has initiated the ongoing slaughter in the Middle East. There was no ISIS before the neo-and ziocons had succeeded in pushing the military interventions in the Middle East.
    Again, to what creed do Bushes, Cheneys, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Clintons belong? – They are Christians. There is also a considerable numbers of untouchables (accepting no accountability), which have been extremely active in creating the ongoing bloodbath in the Middle East: Krisol, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Krauthummer, Perle, Feith, Haas, Kagans, Pletka…. A hungry swarm of psychopaths and opportunists that are not muslims at all. They are Zionists.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    {At least muslims did not create Hitler and Stalin to ruin Europe; these two gentlemen were Christians.}

    No they were not: please don't lie.
    Communists, including Stalin, were anti-Christian: they destroyed 1,000 of Churches. Christian priests were hounded, harassed, murdered,....
    Hitler was no Christian either: Nazis believed in the Occult. They were no Christians. They used Christianity to hoodwink Christian Germans into serving their evil ends: but Nazis were anti-Christian.
    Don't lie.
    Don't spread Islamist disinformation.

    As to Islam vs Christianity.

    Christianity is 600 years older than Islam.
    Islam spread from its tiny base in Mecca by violence.
    By the sword. By death and destruction.
    The Middle East, which uniformed masses consider to be "Muslim" lands, is the cradle of Christianity.

    Muslims exterminated Christians of Middle East, and took their lands.
    Please stop inadvertently or deliberately spreading anti-Christian and IslamoFascist propaganda and disinformation.

    Thank you.
    Thank you very much.

    btw: you have heard of Muslim Turk invadonomads committing Genocide against indigenous Christians - Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks? The savage Uyguroğlar Turk invaders murdered ~4 million indigenous Christians. The nomads are still squatting on Christian lands.

    Why don't you write about that, instead of shedding crocodile tears for Muslim invaders?
    , @schmenz
    "Again, to what creed do Bushes, Cheneys, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Clintons belong? – They are Christians. "

    In name only. Anyone can call himself a Christian; it is how hey behave that tells the real story.
  56. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    if only those damn Mennonites would learn to mind their own business and stop trying to impose their lascivious ways on everybody else, get off their lazy asses and work for their money instead of living off money changing.

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  57. @annamaria
    "...in the real world Muslims are decimating Christians in Syria/Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East..."
    Yes they are.
    Recall that Europe had her two Great wars: "The total number of military and civilian casualties in World War I was more than 38 million." "War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total dead ranging from 50 million to more than 80 million."
    As for the current mess in the Middle East, was not this particular situation was described as desirable in Yinon Plan? At least muslims did not create Hitler and Stalin to ruin Europe; these two gentlemen were Christians. And muslims did not come to the US and Europe to do regime changes and other "humanitarian" improvements. In contrast, West has initiated the ongoing slaughter in the Middle East. There was no ISIS before the neo-and ziocons had succeeded in pushing the military interventions in the Middle East.
    Again, to what creed do Bushes, Cheneys, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Clintons belong? - They are Christians. There is also a considerable numbers of untouchables (accepting no accountability), which have been extremely active in creating the ongoing bloodbath in the Middle East: Krisol, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Krauthummer, Perle, Feith, Haas, Kagans, Pletka.... A hungry swarm of psychopaths and opportunists that are not muslims at all. They are Zionists.

    {At least muslims did not create Hitler and Stalin to ruin Europe; these two gentlemen were Christians.}

    No they were not: please don’t lie.
    Communists, including Stalin, were anti-Christian: they destroyed 1,000 of Churches. Christian priests were hounded, harassed, murdered,….
    Hitler was no Christian either: Nazis believed in the Occult. They were no Christians. They used Christianity to hoodwink Christian Germans into serving their evil ends: but Nazis were anti-Christian.
    Don’t lie.
    Don’t spread Islamist disinformation.

    As to Islam vs Christianity.

    Christianity is 600 years older than Islam.
    Islam spread from its tiny base in Mecca by violence.
    By the sword. By death and destruction.
    The Middle East, which uniformed masses consider to be “Muslim” lands, is the cradle of Christianity.

    Muslims exterminated Christians of Middle East, and took their lands.
    Please stop inadvertently or deliberately spreading anti-Christian and IslamoFascist propaganda and disinformation.

    Thank you.
    Thank you very much.

    btw: you have heard of Muslim Turk invadonomads committing Genocide against indigenous Christians – Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks? The savage Uyguroğlar Turk invaders murdered ~4 million indigenous Christians. The nomads are still squatting on Christian lands.

    Why don’t you write about that, instead of shedding crocodile tears for Muslim invaders?

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    "Raised by an anti-clerical father and practising Catholic mother, Hitler was baptised and confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church... In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches he often made statements that affirmed a belief in Christianity." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
    "Stalin was raised very religious in the Greek Orthodox Church. He was named after Saint Joseph...." http://hollowverse.com/joseph-stalin/
    "When Ioseb was sixteen, he received a scholarship to attend the Tiflis Spiritual Seminary, the leading Russian Orthodox seminary in Tiflis..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Early_life
    , @SolontoCroesus

    Islam spread from its tiny base in Mecca by violence.
    By the sword. By death and destruction.
     
    Constantine, on the other hand, was Mother Superior of a group of cloistered nuns who spent their lives in prayer and fasting for the conversion of the world.
  58. That picture of Bill Clinton and the unkempt bearded guys is disgusting! Doesn’t America know far too many Orthodox are racist, sexist, pedophiles, and thugs that abuse women and children. They also live off of social services while raking in money from clandestine businesses in cash or elaborate schemes which hide cash. They don’t launder money, sell diamonds and organs for nothing.

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  59. @ISmellBagels
    I ain't an atheist. You made that up for your straw man. You continue to impress with your injection of *****HITLER****into the conversation. IQ-75's should refrain from posting.

    Weather report on yr venomous state

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  60. The first column I’ve seen where the unmitigated truth is said;She is an out and out traitor for Israel,and she and the zionist media are pulling out all stops to deny the democratic process,and Trump, the victory America needs to shed the shackles of zionism.
    This is the most important election since FDRs victory in 32.
    Believe it.

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  61. America has been sending a huge percentage of their foreign ‘aid’ to ‘israel’ and at the same time they get served as a scapegoat in the aftermath of their schemes.

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  62. @annamaria
    He is an idiot - from the DC' main stock of incompetent opportunists. Morell is a perfect fit for the Butcheress of Libya:
    "...as is characteristic of chickenhawks, it is highly unlikely that he was intending that either he or his immediate family should go out and cut the throats or blow the heads off of those foreign devils who seek to derail the Pax Americana. Nor would he expect to be in the firing line when the relatives of those victims seek revenge. Someone else with the proper training would be found to do all that messy stuff and take the consequences."
    There have been no consequences for the crimes committed by the murderous psychopaths - that's the problem!

    “there have been no consequences for the crimes committed by these murderous psychopaths-thats the problem!”

    EXACTLY RIGHT, Anna.

    They are absolutely mortified at the possibility of being held to account for what they have done.

    This is why its absolutely IMPERATIVE for them to get Queen Hillary in the White House, because they know she is the “zero accountability Queen”.

    They will spare NO expense, none whatsoever, to shoe her in.

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  63. @Avery
    {At least muslims did not create Hitler and Stalin to ruin Europe; these two gentlemen were Christians.}

    No they were not: please don't lie.
    Communists, including Stalin, were anti-Christian: they destroyed 1,000 of Churches. Christian priests were hounded, harassed, murdered,....
    Hitler was no Christian either: Nazis believed in the Occult. They were no Christians. They used Christianity to hoodwink Christian Germans into serving their evil ends: but Nazis were anti-Christian.
    Don't lie.
    Don't spread Islamist disinformation.

    As to Islam vs Christianity.

    Christianity is 600 years older than Islam.
    Islam spread from its tiny base in Mecca by violence.
    By the sword. By death and destruction.
    The Middle East, which uniformed masses consider to be "Muslim" lands, is the cradle of Christianity.

    Muslims exterminated Christians of Middle East, and took their lands.
    Please stop inadvertently or deliberately spreading anti-Christian and IslamoFascist propaganda and disinformation.

    Thank you.
    Thank you very much.

    btw: you have heard of Muslim Turk invadonomads committing Genocide against indigenous Christians - Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks? The savage Uyguroğlar Turk invaders murdered ~4 million indigenous Christians. The nomads are still squatting on Christian lands.

    Why don't you write about that, instead of shedding crocodile tears for Muslim invaders?

    “Raised by an anti-clerical father and practising Catholic mother, Hitler was baptised and confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church… In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches he often made statements that affirmed a belief in Christianity.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
    “Stalin was raised very religious in the Greek Orthodox Church. He was named after Saint Joseph….” http://hollowverse.com/joseph-stalin/
    “When Ioseb was sixteen, he received a scholarship to attend the Tiflis Spiritual Seminary, the leading Russian Orthodox seminary in Tiflis…” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Early_life

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1928%E2%80%9341)

    [The USSR anti-religious campaign of 1928–1941 was a new phase of anti-religious persecution in the Soviet Union following the anti-religious campaign of 1921–1928. The campaign began in 1929, with the drafting of new legislation that severely prohibited religious activities and called for a heightened attack on religion in order to further disseminate atheism. This had been preceded in 1928 at the fifteenth party congress, where Joseph Stalin criticized the party for failure to produce more active and persuasive anti-religious propaganda. This new phase coincided with the beginning of the forced mass collectivization of agriculture and the nationalization of the few remaining private enterprises.

    Many of those who had been arrested in the 1920s would continue to remain in prison throughout the 1930s and beyond.

    The main target of the anti-religious campaign in the 1920s and 1930s was the Russian Orthodox Church, which had the largest number of faithful. Nearly all of its clergy, and many of its believers, were shot or sent to labour camps. Theological schools were closed, and church publications were prohibited. More than 85,000 Orthodox priests were shot in 1937 alone. Only a twelfth of the Russian Orthodox Church's priests were left functioning in their parishes by 1941.] (from Wiki)

    Nice try, Muslim propagandist: no burka for you this time.
    Try again.

    [The Nazis and Christianity]
    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/11/the_nazis_and_christianity.html

    {This hostility or indifference toward Christianity in Europe, and especially in Germany, led naturally to a profound anti-Christian sentiment in Nazi Germany. Nazis, more than most Germans, were indifferent or hostile to Christianity. Hitler originally appeared to just ignore Christianity. Dark and Essex write in their 1938 book that Mein Kampf has few passages which in any way refer to religion, none that refer to Hitler's own personal religion, or to the teaching of the Bible, nor any branch of Christian teaching. Jacob Marcus in his 1934 book by the Union of American Hebrew Congregations notes that "Though his parents were both Catholics, Hitler himself has apparently no interest in any organized religion." Marcus also has an entire section in his book about Nazi "anti-Christian anti-Semitism." Rauschning in 1938 wrote

    "The purpose of the National Socialism fight against Christianity is the same: the total destruction of the last and most deep-rooted support of the forces of conservation. The destruction of the spirit of Christianity in Germany is certainly more far-reaching than appears on the surface...Such vestiges of living Christianity as remain are steadily degenerating in the direction of a superficial and unthinking deism" and that ultimate goal as "...the total abolition of Christianity, which is not a mere philosophical fad of the National Socialists but an iron necessity of their system."

    Within a year of taking power, Hitler was saying:

    "Christianity was incapable of uniting the Germans, and that only an entirely new world-theory was capable of doing so." }



    Nice try, Muslim propagandist: no burka for you this time.
    Try again.
    , @Alden
    It's true that both the monsters were baptized, brought to church and sent to religious schools.

    But Hitler listened to his anti clerical father and left the church in his early teens. That's why he was expelled from 2 high schools for constantly disrupting class to harangue everyone about the evils of Christianity. He was an anti clerical atheist at age 14. Later he blathered about ancient pagans and the occult.

    Stalin was baptized, brought to church and attended a priest prep seminary. He later left the church and became an atheist or re incarnation of Satan who ever you prefer.

    They were raised Christian but left the church for atheism as either a young teen or young adult.
    Neither was Christian as adults
  64. Why Americans distrust Russia and some even hate Russia or think of Russia as the enemy. It boggles the mind, since Russia is the staunchest ally America ever had.
    Russia stood by America during the revolutionary war preventing England from sending their fleet to America ww1 Russia was an ally and ww2 Russia was the bull of ww2 that stood toe to toe with Germany all alone for the most part.
    Instead America funds and backs Israel which does absolutely nothing but cause trouble for USA.
    It boggles the mind how the American govt got it’s population to hate or distrust Russians.
    The leadership of USA has completely let the American people down 100%.

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    One reason Americans came to hate Soviet Russia is because of the Russians who fled the Soviet murderers

    San Francisco got 3 waves, the first in 1918 to about 1935 were Russians who fled east and got to the coast of Chiba and thence to San Francisco. 1948 to mid 50's Russians who stopped in China and fled to San Francisco after the communists took over China. Then in mid 1970s another group that is still coming.
    All over the Midwest and east coast there communities of Poles, Hungarians, Germans, Serbs, Bulgarians, Chezch, Slovenes and Slovaks who fled the unspeakable horrors of the communist Russian takeover of their countries after WWW2.
    These people are spread all over the country. I'm visiting relatives who live a few blocks to a beautiful Russian orthodox cathedral built by the 1918 to mid 30s refugees. Chicago has a huge Polish refugee community. Ohio and the Midwest is full of E Europeans whose grand parents fled after WW2.
    People talk to their neighbors and wonder why there is a Russian cathedral or signs in Polish or Hungarian all over the neighborhood and learn about the joys of Russian communist domination.

    Russia did not help us a bit in the Revolution. Spain helped us a lot by sending its navy to roam about India and the Caribbean. This forced the British to keep its troops in those colonies Spain also informed England that any attempt to send troops to New Orleans, Mobile, Florida and other Spanish territories would result in war Prussia and Austria helped by informing the British that they intended to stay neutral as did the Scandinavian countries.

    The Russian navy was basically a Baltic Sea coast guard. Look at the map. Just a few British ships could prevent the Russian coast guard from getting out of the Baktuc into the North Sea.

    France helped with millions of dollars, most of the armaments and thousands of soldiers and the diplomatic expertise to make Spain a non combat ally and the rest of Europe neutral.

    Russia gave us no help at all in the re pluton. We didn't even get a trade treaty until 1832 decades after we signed treaties with the rest of Europe.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    There was a coup in the USA in 1963. Most Americans decided not to root out the coup leaders and instead focused on sports and sitcoms. There were some who did want to root out the plotters but they were easily neutralised by the traitorous media and the usual useful idiots who found that they could pretend to appear intelligent just by crowing "conspiracy theorist" at any time the coup was mentioned.

    Then the chest-thumpers wasted the wealth and fruits of a generation in Vietnam, all the while announcing to the world that they were great whilst enriching and emboldening the plotters whose plan all along was actually world domination. Endless, un-winnable wars have followed, all of which violate basic morality and the philosophies set out in The Art of War.

    They killed the dream of America but because the rules of the Great Game dictate that controlling Russia and central Asia is key to winning so Russia has been declared evil and is always the enemy.

    The majority of the people aren't really happy, some even know that the US comes in very low on the scale in many areas of quality of life but are quite content to chant USA! USA! USA!

    Russia doesn't seem to be too keen on this notion of being neutralised and isn't playing along.
  65. @Avery
    {At least muslims did not create Hitler and Stalin to ruin Europe; these two gentlemen were Christians.}

    No they were not: please don't lie.
    Communists, including Stalin, were anti-Christian: they destroyed 1,000 of Churches. Christian priests were hounded, harassed, murdered,....
    Hitler was no Christian either: Nazis believed in the Occult. They were no Christians. They used Christianity to hoodwink Christian Germans into serving their evil ends: but Nazis were anti-Christian.
    Don't lie.
    Don't spread Islamist disinformation.

    As to Islam vs Christianity.

    Christianity is 600 years older than Islam.
    Islam spread from its tiny base in Mecca by violence.
    By the sword. By death and destruction.
    The Middle East, which uniformed masses consider to be "Muslim" lands, is the cradle of Christianity.

    Muslims exterminated Christians of Middle East, and took their lands.
    Please stop inadvertently or deliberately spreading anti-Christian and IslamoFascist propaganda and disinformation.

    Thank you.
    Thank you very much.

    btw: you have heard of Muslim Turk invadonomads committing Genocide against indigenous Christians - Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks? The savage Uyguroğlar Turk invaders murdered ~4 million indigenous Christians. The nomads are still squatting on Christian lands.

    Why don't you write about that, instead of shedding crocodile tears for Muslim invaders?

    Islam spread from its tiny base in Mecca by violence.
    By the sword. By death and destruction.

    Constantine, on the other hand, was Mother Superior of a group of cloistered nuns who spent their lives in prayer and fasting for the conversion of the world.

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    oh -- and they made altar breads and grape juice to support themselves.
  66. @SolontoCroesus

    Islam spread from its tiny base in Mecca by violence.
    By the sword. By death and destruction.
     
    Constantine, on the other hand, was Mother Superior of a group of cloistered nuns who spent their lives in prayer and fasting for the conversion of the world.

    oh — and they made altar breads and grape juice to support themselves.

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    Yes, I am sure IslamoFascists would much rather Christians laid down and allowed themselves to be peacefully slaughtered by peace loving Mohammad's followers.

    How dare Christians defend themselves: so un-Christian.
    Turn the other cheek and all that.

    Oh, btw: you are currently living in one of the tolerant, benevolent Islamistan paradises, Yes? You are not living in one of those intolerant Christian-majority Hell-holes, are you?
    , @Avery
    Oh, btw2:

    You are Jewish living in Christian America, if I am not mistaken, Yes?
    Living, prospering in peace, I pray, while ragging on Christians?
    Instead of living in the official Jewish State of Israel.
    Where you would be under constant threat of Muslim terrorist attacks: Yes?
  67. @annamaria
    "Raised by an anti-clerical father and practising Catholic mother, Hitler was baptised and confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church... In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches he often made statements that affirmed a belief in Christianity." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
    "Stalin was raised very religious in the Greek Orthodox Church. He was named after Saint Joseph...." http://hollowverse.com/joseph-stalin/
    "When Ioseb was sixteen, he received a scholarship to attend the Tiflis Spiritual Seminary, the leading Russian Orthodox seminary in Tiflis..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Early_life

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1928%E2%80%9341)

    [The USSR anti-religious campaign of 1928–1941 was a new phase of anti-religious persecution in the Soviet Union following the anti-religious campaign of 1921–1928. The campaign began in 1929, with the drafting of new legislation that severely prohibited religious activities and called for a heightened attack on religion in order to further disseminate atheism. This had been preceded in 1928 at the fifteenth party congress, where Joseph Stalin criticized the party for failure to produce more active and persuasive anti-religious propaganda. This new phase coincided with the beginning of the forced mass collectivization of agriculture and the nationalization of the few remaining private enterprises.

    Many of those who had been arrested in the 1920s would continue to remain in prison throughout the 1930s and beyond.

    The main target of the anti-religious campaign in the 1920s and 1930s was the Russian Orthodox Church, which had the largest number of faithful. Nearly all of its clergy, and many of its believers, were shot or sent to labour camps. Theological schools were closed, and church publications were prohibited. More than 85,000 Orthodox priests were shot in 1937 alone. Only a twelfth of the Russian Orthodox Church's priests were left functioning in their parishes by 1941.] (from Wiki)

    Nice try, Muslim propagandist: no burka for you this time.
    Try again.

    [The Nazis and Christianity]

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/11/the_nazis_and_christianity.html

    {This hostility or indifference toward Christianity in Europe, and especially in Germany, led naturally to a profound anti-Christian sentiment in Nazi Germany. Nazis, more than most Germans, were indifferent or hostile to Christianity. Hitler originally appeared to just ignore Christianity. Dark and Essex write in their 1938 book that Mein Kampf has few passages which in any way refer to religion, none that refer to Hitler’s own personal religion, or to the teaching of the Bible, nor any branch of Christian teaching. Jacob Marcus in his 1934 book by the Union of American Hebrew Congregations notes that “Though his parents were both Catholics, Hitler himself has apparently no interest in any organized religion.” Marcus also has an entire section in his book about Nazi “anti-Christian anti-Semitism.” Rauschning in 1938 wrote

    “The purpose of the National Socialism fight against Christianity is the same: the total destruction of the last and most deep-rooted support of the forces of conservation. The destruction of the spirit of Christianity in Germany is certainly more far-reaching than appears on the surface…Such vestiges of living Christianity as remain are steadily degenerating in the direction of a superficial and unthinking deism” and that ultimate goal as “…the total abolition of Christianity, which is not a mere philosophical fad of the National Socialists but an iron necessity of their system.”

    Within a year of taking power, Hitler was saying:

    “Christianity was incapable of uniting the Germans, and that only an entirely new world-theory was capable of doing so.” }

    Nice try, Muslim propagandist: no burka for you this time.
    Try again.

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    "Muslim propagandist..."
    It was your call that the totality of muslim are religious fanatics, whereas those born in Christian countries are all saintly.
    Then how come that Europe had suffered millions and millions violent deaths during the last century as a result of wars (WWI & WWII) between Christian nations?
    Mrs. Rice is a churchgoer, but this did not stop her from lying and promoting Bush/Cheney policies of mass murder in the Middle East. The US/NATO interventions (illegal according to international law) resulted in some 4 mln deaths, including babies and pregnant women. Very Christian. There is always money for cluster bombs, but never for universal healthcare in the US.
    Look at the history of Christianity: the auto da fe, the persecution of "heretics" (brothers and sisters Christians) during Reformation, the mass murder of ingenious people by Christian colonizers. Dandy.
    Perhaps if the US Christians paid more attention to the machinations of Bush/Cheney cabal instead of zeroing on "no abortion in any circumstances" there would have been no wars in the Middle East and no bags with shredded meat that used to be children.
    http://bladalarb.blogspot.com/2014/09/killing-iraqi-children-with-impunity.html
    http://www.mintpressnews.com/do-the-math-global-war-on-terror-has-killed-4-million-muslims-or-more/208225/
  68. @SolontoCroesus
    oh -- and they made altar breads and grape juice to support themselves.

    Yes, I am sure IslamoFascists would much rather Christians laid down and allowed themselves to be peacefully slaughtered by peace loving Mohammad’s followers.

    How dare Christians defend themselves: so un-Christian.
    Turn the other cheek and all that.

    Oh, btw: you are currently living in one of the tolerant, benevolent Islamistan paradises, Yes? You are not living in one of those intolerant Christian-majority Hell-holes, are you?

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  69. @empty

    [MEGA] became a senior advisor to Clinton at the White House from 1993 to 1998.[31] In the White House, MEGA was initially Assistant to the President for Political Affairs[32] and then Senior Advisor to the President for Policy and Strategy.[33] He was a leading strategist in White House efforts to institute NAFTA[34][35] and universal health care[citation needed], among other Clinton initiatives.[36]
     
    what I've read

    MEGA took part in a two-week civilian volunteer holiday, known as the Sar-El, where, as a civilian volunteer, he assisted the Israel Defense Forces during the 1991 Gulf War
     

    Was it Rahm Emmanuel? I wonder what he did during that war? The IDF is very very careful to give the American volunteers a bit of combat experience but never to get them near the action.

    Wouldn’t want Hadassah to turn off the shekel faucet would they.

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    Mr. Giraldi already answered that, 'nope'. Do try to read before commenting.

    Rahm E. did have a lucrative spell as some kind of 'transport contractor' for Israel during the Gulf War, but from memory, that had more to do with maintaing the occupation of southern Lebanon and was only coincidental with the Gulf.

    That presumably meant getting a nice little slice of the billions so benevolently lavished on impoverished, loyal Israel by the US taxpayer.

    There is nothing on it in stupid Wikipedia (his bio. is, predictably, a whitewash), and search engines seem to have been bombed to keep it out.

    Any Unzer playing with Wikipedia may enjoy trying to get that info. in.
  70. I wonder if the polls [almost all the major ones] are accurate, or in fact terribly misleading on Hillary’s commanding lead. People I’ve socialised with recently in the NE, appear hesitant to reveal their true preferences, but a little prodding [helped along by a bottle of something perhaps, in the more reserved cases] lowered guards and Trump was the choice. I speak only of a dozen souls or so; small sample, but surprising nevertheless in the NE, I’d say. She is disliked; had less to do with the emails, Clinton foundation or anything related to Clinton Inc’s uncritical partiality to coin; the antipathy was simply visceral.

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    The revelations of the D.N.C.'s gerrymandering the election results in favor of Hillary,(in effect stealing votes from the Bernie camp) was a real shock to the entire voting community.

    The idea that the Democratic Party, as well as the entire Clinton team would demonstrate such utter contempt for the rights of voters to have their say , thoroughly disgusts everyone who knows about it ( everyone who wasn't involved, that is)

    The fact the dominant media has bent over backwards to erase the story, doesn't add to the voters trust in what the media stands for.

    Given all this,one should not discount the fact that the media would probably gerrymander the polling results too, given the chance.

    Why wouldn't they ?

    The level of fraud going on, in every single arena of dissemination, has become so ubiquitous to contemporary society under Neocon stewardship, would you really be surprised if Hillary has not even received a single vote in the actual polls ?

    Would the outcome of the general election even be affected by this, if she hasn't ?

    I don't think so.

    I think Hillary will still walk into the White House, even if not one American actually votes for her.

  71. @annamaria
    "Raised by an anti-clerical father and practising Catholic mother, Hitler was baptised and confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church... In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches he often made statements that affirmed a belief in Christianity." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
    "Stalin was raised very religious in the Greek Orthodox Church. He was named after Saint Joseph...." http://hollowverse.com/joseph-stalin/
    "When Ioseb was sixteen, he received a scholarship to attend the Tiflis Spiritual Seminary, the leading Russian Orthodox seminary in Tiflis..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Early_life

    It’s true that both the monsters were baptized, brought to church and sent to religious schools.

    But Hitler listened to his anti clerical father and left the church in his early teens. That’s why he was expelled from 2 high schools for constantly disrupting class to harangue everyone about the evils of Christianity. He was an anti clerical atheist at age 14. Later he blathered about ancient pagans and the occult.

    Stalin was baptized, brought to church and attended a priest prep seminary. He later left the church and became an atheist or re incarnation of Satan who ever you prefer.

    They were raised Christian but left the church for atheism as either a young teen or young adult.
    Neither was Christian as adults

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    {Neither was Christian as adults}


    Thanks for debunking Islamist, anti-Christian disinformation.
    , @annamaria
    "Neither was Christian as adults."
    True. But they were not Muslims - that was my point.
    For the last 15 years, the US population has been bombarded with anti-Muslim hysterics by the MSM and DC speakers. Why? To continue the killing spree in the Middle East? The wars were great for mega war profiteers ($6.5 trillion "can't be accounted" by the Pentagon). At the same time, both Bush dynasty and Clintons have been the bosom buddies with Saudi monarchs (the main supporters of murderous ISIS), while Israelis were treating the wounded "freedom fighters" of ISIS and other "moderate" terrorists. Should we continue discussing the differences between Christian and Muslims or enough already?
  72. @davey
    Why Americans distrust Russia and some even hate Russia or think of Russia as the enemy. It boggles the mind, since Russia is the staunchest ally America ever had.
    Russia stood by America during the revolutionary war preventing England from sending their fleet to America ww1 Russia was an ally and ww2 Russia was the bull of ww2 that stood toe to toe with Germany all alone for the most part.
    Instead America funds and backs Israel which does absolutely nothing but cause trouble for USA.
    It boggles the mind how the American govt got it's population to hate or distrust Russians.
    The leadership of USA has completely let the American people down 100%.

    One reason Americans came to hate Soviet Russia is because of the Russians who fled the Soviet murderers

    San Francisco got 3 waves, the first in 1918 to about 1935 were Russians who fled east and got to the coast of Chiba and thence to San Francisco. 1948 to mid 50′s Russians who stopped in China and fled to San Francisco after the communists took over China. Then in mid 1970s another group that is still coming.
    All over the Midwest and east coast there communities of Poles, Hungarians, Germans, Serbs, Bulgarians, Chezch, Slovenes and Slovaks who fled the unspeakable horrors of the communist Russian takeover of their countries after WWW2.
    These people are spread all over the country. I’m visiting relatives who live a few blocks to a beautiful Russian orthodox cathedral built by the 1918 to mid 30s refugees. Chicago has a huge Polish refugee community. Ohio and the Midwest is full of E Europeans whose grand parents fled after WW2.
    People talk to their neighbors and wonder why there is a Russian cathedral or signs in Polish or Hungarian all over the neighborhood and learn about the joys of Russian communist domination.

    Russia did not help us a bit in the Revolution. Spain helped us a lot by sending its navy to roam about India and the Caribbean. This forced the British to keep its troops in those colonies Spain also informed England that any attempt to send troops to New Orleans, Mobile, Florida and other Spanish territories would result in war Prussia and Austria helped by informing the British that they intended to stay neutral as did the Scandinavian countries.

    The Russian navy was basically a Baltic Sea coast guard. Look at the map. Just a few British ships could prevent the Russian coast guard from getting out of the Baktuc into the North Sea.

    France helped with millions of dollars, most of the armaments and thousands of soldiers and the diplomatic expertise to make Spain a non combat ally and the rest of Europe neutral.

    Russia gave us no help at all in the re pluton. We didn’t even get a trade treaty until 1832 decades after we signed treaties with the rest of Europe.

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    Russia sent Baltic fleet to NY and Pacific fleet to SF during Civil War.
    , @Karl
    > in spite of the fact that ten Palestinians are killed for each Jewish victim

    is the ratio is that low? don't worry, Lieberman will fix that disgrace


    > Prussia and Austria helped by informing the British that they intended to stay neutral as did the Scandinavian countries

    In our neck of the woods, that's called: wants to sell bullets to ANY cash customer

    > Chelsea’s marriage to Marc Mezvinsky can be understood on those terms.

    His mom wasn't happy, actually. His dada said she does look pretty good since the nose job and malar implants.

  73. @Sam Shama
    I wonder if the polls [almost all the major ones] are accurate, or in fact terribly misleading on Hillary's commanding lead. People I've socialised with recently in the NE, appear hesitant to reveal their true preferences, but a little prodding [helped along by a bottle of something perhaps, in the more reserved cases] lowered guards and Trump was the choice. I speak only of a dozen souls or so; small sample, but surprising nevertheless in the NE, I'd say. She is disliked; had less to do with the emails, Clinton foundation or anything related to Clinton Inc's uncritical partiality to coin; the antipathy was simply visceral.

    The revelations of the D.N.C.’s gerrymandering the election results in favor of Hillary,(in effect stealing votes from the Bernie camp) was a real shock to the entire voting community.

    The idea that the Democratic Party, as well as the entire Clinton team would demonstrate such utter contempt for the rights of voters to have their say , thoroughly disgusts everyone who knows about it ( everyone who wasn’t involved, that is)

    The fact the dominant media has bent over backwards to erase the story, doesn’t add to the voters trust in what the media stands for.

    Given all this,one should not discount the fact that the media would probably gerrymander the polling results too, given the chance.

    Why wouldn’t they ?

    The level of fraud going on, in every single arena of dissemination, has become so ubiquitous to contemporary society under Neocon stewardship, would you really be surprised if Hillary has not even received a single vote in the actual polls ?

    Would the outcome of the general election even be affected by this, if she hasn’t ?

    I don’t think so.

    I think Hillary will still walk into the White House, even if not one American actually votes for her.

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    Alexander, what do you think gerrymandering means, anyway? (Supposed to be adding to knowledge here....)
    , @Sam Shama
    It is disgusting and discouraging no doubt. Yet I don't see how the actual election could be rigged. The U.S. is not North Korea where Dear Leader gets 100% of votes.
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    Unfortunately nothing new here.
    What I would add is that Israel as a “refuge” for Jews is actually a facade.
    Behind the facade is the biggest “world” mafia there is, running most human trafficking, financial fraud, arms dealing, war profiteering, human organ trafficking, drug smuggling operations on hearth. The control of all central banks is done from there via London and Switzerland.
    That’s the big secret.
    Jewish mostly but also non jewish as the higher echelons are dedicated satanists.

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  75. @SolontoCroesus
    oh -- and they made altar breads and grape juice to support themselves.

    Oh, btw2:

    You are Jewish living in Christian America, if I am not mistaken, Yes?
    Living, prospering in peace, I pray, while ragging on Christians?
    Instead of living in the official Jewish State of Israel.
    Where you would be under constant threat of Muslim terrorist attacks: Yes?

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    S2C Jewish? !!! I daresay not. I on the other hand, am, and can report, in total happiness amongst my Christian, Muslim and atheist brethren.

    You on the other hand, Avery, are a writer of jolly good humour. Anyway, human violence has been around since "the world was turnin'" as the song says. There's been plenty going around, so what's the point regurgitating it all the time? And Muslims by no means, have exclusivity in this blood-sport.

    , @helena
    He seems to be an Italian American convert to Zoroastrianism. He worked in Iran but maybe he brought an Iranian bride back with him to US? But my point is,

    If everyone, instead of commenting with their obscure opinions, simply commented once with their life history synopsis - we would all know exactly what they think about everything.
  76. @Alden
    It's true that both the monsters were baptized, brought to church and sent to religious schools.

    But Hitler listened to his anti clerical father and left the church in his early teens. That's why he was expelled from 2 high schools for constantly disrupting class to harangue everyone about the evils of Christianity. He was an anti clerical atheist at age 14. Later he blathered about ancient pagans and the occult.

    Stalin was baptized, brought to church and attended a priest prep seminary. He later left the church and became an atheist or re incarnation of Satan who ever you prefer.

    They were raised Christian but left the church for atheism as either a young teen or young adult.
    Neither was Christian as adults

    {Neither was Christian as adults}

    Thanks for debunking Islamist, anti-Christian disinformation.

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  77. I am fearful that America’s blind support for Israel could lead to anti-Semitism. Many innocent American Jews could get hurt.

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    IS-is
    RA
    ELohim

    Can’t take the Frankist Zevites anywhere without them destroying stuff

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  79. @Avery
    Oh, btw2:

    You are Jewish living in Christian America, if I am not mistaken, Yes?
    Living, prospering in peace, I pray, while ragging on Christians?
    Instead of living in the official Jewish State of Israel.
    Where you would be under constant threat of Muslim terrorist attacks: Yes?

    S2C Jewish? !!! I daresay not. I on the other hand, am, and can report, in total happiness amongst my Christian, Muslim and atheist brethren.

    You on the other hand, Avery, are a writer of jolly good humour. Anyway, human violence has been around since “the world was turnin’” as the song says. There’s been plenty going around, so what’s the point regurgitating it all the time? And Muslims by no means, have exclusivity in this blood-sport.

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    {... I on the other hand, am, and can report, in total happiness amongst my Christian, Muslim and atheist brethren.}

    Oh, Sam: that is so touching.
    Being Jewish, would you not be happier living amongst your Muslim brethren in Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia, for example?
    You are living in total happiness amongst your various brethren, because you are living in Christian America.

    {And Muslims by no means, have exclusivity in this blood-sport.}

    No, really? I didn't know that.
    And all this time, in 10s of 1,000 years of human history I though blood-sport started with the birth of Islam ~1,400 years ago.
  80. @Miro23
    This a straightforward factual article about the Clinton sellout to Israel.

    So the question may come down to the effectiveness of MSM propaganda.

    It looks very much like the US public is starting to mirror the Eastern European public under Communism by automatically disregarding government media + there's the added feature of the internet as a new kind of high-powered Samizdat, that clearly worries the Establishment.

    If the script follows through, then there's a good likelihood that the Establishment and their façade players (Clintons, Bush, Romney, McCain etc) are reaching the end of the line, since like in E.Europe, there's a background problem of economic failure and extreme élite/public inequality that can no longer be hidden.

    The MSM media in the so-called Free World is actually more effective in duping the population than the media in the former Communist countries. In the latter, the media were under the formal control of the government. As this fact could not be hidden, most citizens at least tended to discount what they read in the state-controlled newspapers because it was clear that they were not impartial. With the MSM in our own country, by contrast, they are not under formal government control and thus appear to be impartial. This means that in the past, people have taken them more seriously and thus the propaganda emanating from them has been more effective. Of course, most people in Western countries have caught on to the fact that the MSM are just propaganda outlets for the state, and are now disregarding them, just as they did in the former Communist countries. The game is up.

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  81. @Avery
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1928%E2%80%9341)

    [The USSR anti-religious campaign of 1928–1941 was a new phase of anti-religious persecution in the Soviet Union following the anti-religious campaign of 1921–1928. The campaign began in 1929, with the drafting of new legislation that severely prohibited religious activities and called for a heightened attack on religion in order to further disseminate atheism. This had been preceded in 1928 at the fifteenth party congress, where Joseph Stalin criticized the party for failure to produce more active and persuasive anti-religious propaganda. This new phase coincided with the beginning of the forced mass collectivization of agriculture and the nationalization of the few remaining private enterprises.

    Many of those who had been arrested in the 1920s would continue to remain in prison throughout the 1930s and beyond.

    The main target of the anti-religious campaign in the 1920s and 1930s was the Russian Orthodox Church, which had the largest number of faithful. Nearly all of its clergy, and many of its believers, were shot or sent to labour camps. Theological schools were closed, and church publications were prohibited. More than 85,000 Orthodox priests were shot in 1937 alone. Only a twelfth of the Russian Orthodox Church's priests were left functioning in their parishes by 1941.] (from Wiki)

    Nice try, Muslim propagandist: no burka for you this time.
    Try again.

    [The Nazis and Christianity]
    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/11/the_nazis_and_christianity.html

    {This hostility or indifference toward Christianity in Europe, and especially in Germany, led naturally to a profound anti-Christian sentiment in Nazi Germany. Nazis, more than most Germans, were indifferent or hostile to Christianity. Hitler originally appeared to just ignore Christianity. Dark and Essex write in their 1938 book that Mein Kampf has few passages which in any way refer to religion, none that refer to Hitler's own personal religion, or to the teaching of the Bible, nor any branch of Christian teaching. Jacob Marcus in his 1934 book by the Union of American Hebrew Congregations notes that "Though his parents were both Catholics, Hitler himself has apparently no interest in any organized religion." Marcus also has an entire section in his book about Nazi "anti-Christian anti-Semitism." Rauschning in 1938 wrote

    "The purpose of the National Socialism fight against Christianity is the same: the total destruction of the last and most deep-rooted support of the forces of conservation. The destruction of the spirit of Christianity in Germany is certainly more far-reaching than appears on the surface...Such vestiges of living Christianity as remain are steadily degenerating in the direction of a superficial and unthinking deism" and that ultimate goal as "...the total abolition of Christianity, which is not a mere philosophical fad of the National Socialists but an iron necessity of their system."

    Within a year of taking power, Hitler was saying:

    "Christianity was incapable of uniting the Germans, and that only an entirely new world-theory was capable of doing so." }



    Nice try, Muslim propagandist: no burka for you this time.
    Try again.

    “Muslim propagandist…”
    It was your call that the totality of muslim are religious fanatics, whereas those born in Christian countries are all saintly.
    Then how come that Europe had suffered millions and millions violent deaths during the last century as a result of wars (WWI & WWII) between Christian nations?
    Mrs. Rice is a churchgoer, but this did not stop her from lying and promoting Bush/Cheney policies of mass murder in the Middle East. The US/NATO interventions (illegal according to international law) resulted in some 4 mln deaths, including babies and pregnant women. Very Christian. There is always money for cluster bombs, but never for universal healthcare in the US.
    Look at the history of Christianity: the auto da fe, the persecution of “heretics” (brothers and sisters Christians) during Reformation, the mass murder of ingenious people by Christian colonizers. Dandy.
    Perhaps if the US Christians paid more attention to the machinations of Bush/Cheney cabal instead of zeroing on “no abortion in any circumstances” there would have been no wars in the Middle East and no bags with shredded meat that used to be children.

    http://bladalarb.blogspot.com/2014/09/killing-iraqi-children-with-impunity.html

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/do-the-math-global-war-on-terror-has-killed-4-million-muslims-or-more/208225/

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    {It was your call that the totality of muslim are religious fanatics, whereas those born in Christian countries are all saintly.}

    Show me where I wrote that.
    Exactly.
  82. @alexander
    The revelations of the D.N.C.'s gerrymandering the election results in favor of Hillary,(in effect stealing votes from the Bernie camp) was a real shock to the entire voting community.

    The idea that the Democratic Party, as well as the entire Clinton team would demonstrate such utter contempt for the rights of voters to have their say , thoroughly disgusts everyone who knows about it ( everyone who wasn't involved, that is)

    The fact the dominant media has bent over backwards to erase the story, doesn't add to the voters trust in what the media stands for.

    Given all this,one should not discount the fact that the media would probably gerrymander the polling results too, given the chance.

    Why wouldn't they ?

    The level of fraud going on, in every single arena of dissemination, has become so ubiquitous to contemporary society under Neocon stewardship, would you really be surprised if Hillary has not even received a single vote in the actual polls ?

    Would the outcome of the general election even be affected by this, if she hasn't ?

    I don't think so.

    I think Hillary will still walk into the White House, even if not one American actually votes for her.

    Alexander, what do you think gerrymandering means, anyway? (Supposed to be adding to knowledge here….)

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  83. @Alden
    It's true that both the monsters were baptized, brought to church and sent to religious schools.

    But Hitler listened to his anti clerical father and left the church in his early teens. That's why he was expelled from 2 high schools for constantly disrupting class to harangue everyone about the evils of Christianity. He was an anti clerical atheist at age 14. Later he blathered about ancient pagans and the occult.

    Stalin was baptized, brought to church and attended a priest prep seminary. He later left the church and became an atheist or re incarnation of Satan who ever you prefer.

    They were raised Christian but left the church for atheism as either a young teen or young adult.
    Neither was Christian as adults

    “Neither was Christian as adults.”
    True. But they were not Muslims – that was my point.
    For the last 15 years, the US population has been bombarded with anti-Muslim hysterics by the MSM and DC speakers. Why? To continue the killing spree in the Middle East? The wars were great for mega war profiteers ($6.5 trillion “can’t be accounted” by the Pentagon). At the same time, both Bush dynasty and Clintons have been the bosom buddies with Saudi monarchs (the main supporters of murderous ISIS), while Israelis were treating the wounded “freedom fighters” of ISIS and other “moderate” terrorists. Should we continue discussing the differences between Christian and Muslims or enough already?

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    {True. But they were not Muslims – that was my point.}

    What?

    Not being Muslim is equivalent to being Christian?

    {Should we continue discussing the differences between Christian and Muslims or enough already?}

    No, we should.
    And it is not enough already.
    Don't conflate recent US-Neocon-Zionist Islam obsession with historic genocidal animosity of Islam towards Christians.
    , @anon
    to understand american feelings toward muslims, tally up the terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians . next you can break it down by religion. next you will have your answer that muslim attacks equal more than hindu,buddhist,jewish,christian,sikhism,jainism ,bahai combined,despite being less than 2% of the population.let that sink in . this may be the reason why.
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    Bill Clinton graduated from the Georgetown university which is the biggest Jesuit college in the USA. That should tell you who he’s working for. This site is disinfo

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  85. @alexander
    The revelations of the D.N.C.'s gerrymandering the election results in favor of Hillary,(in effect stealing votes from the Bernie camp) was a real shock to the entire voting community.

    The idea that the Democratic Party, as well as the entire Clinton team would demonstrate such utter contempt for the rights of voters to have their say , thoroughly disgusts everyone who knows about it ( everyone who wasn't involved, that is)

    The fact the dominant media has bent over backwards to erase the story, doesn't add to the voters trust in what the media stands for.

    Given all this,one should not discount the fact that the media would probably gerrymander the polling results too, given the chance.

    Why wouldn't they ?

    The level of fraud going on, in every single arena of dissemination, has become so ubiquitous to contemporary society under Neocon stewardship, would you really be surprised if Hillary has not even received a single vote in the actual polls ?

    Would the outcome of the general election even be affected by this, if she hasn't ?

    I don't think so.

    I think Hillary will still walk into the White House, even if not one American actually votes for her.

    It is disgusting and discouraging no doubt. Yet I don’t see how the actual election could be rigged. The U.S. is not North Korea where Dear Leader gets 100% of votes.

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    Wouldn't it be wonderful if the general election could not be rigged.


    We saw enormous push back from the massive voter fraud in the Gore/Bush election, both in the DNC and in the outrage expressed by the average voter.

    There seem to have been some mild reforms done, after the fact, to ensure it wouldn't happen again.
    My understanding is those reforms have all but disappeared.

    I think that Obama did win the general election over Romney,and whatever rigging there was by the GOP was not enough to clear the hurdles to push Romney over the top.

    But with clear evidence the DNC is now playing the same dirty pool the GOP did, this time for Hillary, there will be no centralized power base to push back against voter fraud.

    Lets be honest too,the "Citizens United" ruling by the Supreme Court, has permanently changed the rules of the game.

    The old "one man/one vote" has nearly vanished from the United States.

    So yes , Sam, the outcome of the general election is probably more predetermined this election cycle, than ever before.

  86. A technique called “frequency analysis” is used to break ciphers. By analyzing how often patterns recur, it’s possible to break some very sophisticated codes.

    Doesn’t take a genius to analyze Killary, though. She’s been around for a long time and by analyzing her patterns, one gets a VERY clear picture of who (what) she is.

    That vile creature is as satanic, evil and zionist (sorry to be redundant) as they come.

    Still, I really appreciate pieces like this from a true insider like Mr. Giraldi. Every little bit helps.

    Many thanks.

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  87. @davey
    Why Americans distrust Russia and some even hate Russia or think of Russia as the enemy. It boggles the mind, since Russia is the staunchest ally America ever had.
    Russia stood by America during the revolutionary war preventing England from sending their fleet to America ww1 Russia was an ally and ww2 Russia was the bull of ww2 that stood toe to toe with Germany all alone for the most part.
    Instead America funds and backs Israel which does absolutely nothing but cause trouble for USA.
    It boggles the mind how the American govt got it's population to hate or distrust Russians.
    The leadership of USA has completely let the American people down 100%.

    There was a coup in the USA in 1963. Most Americans decided not to root out the coup leaders and instead focused on sports and sitcoms. There were some who did want to root out the plotters but they were easily neutralised by the traitorous media and the usual useful idiots who found that they could pretend to appear intelligent just by crowing “conspiracy theorist” at any time the coup was mentioned.

    Then the chest-thumpers wasted the wealth and fruits of a generation in Vietnam, all the while announcing to the world that they were great whilst enriching and emboldening the plotters whose plan all along was actually world domination. Endless, un-winnable wars have followed, all of which violate basic morality and the philosophies set out in The Art of War.

    They killed the dream of America but because the rules of the Great Game dictate that controlling Russia and central Asia is key to winning so Russia has been declared evil and is always the enemy.

    The majority of the people aren’t really happy, some even know that the US comes in very low on the scale in many areas of quality of life but are quite content to chant USA! USA! USA!

    Russia doesn’t seem to be too keen on this notion of being neutralised and isn’t playing along.

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  88. @annamaria
    "Muslim propagandist..."
    It was your call that the totality of muslim are religious fanatics, whereas those born in Christian countries are all saintly.
    Then how come that Europe had suffered millions and millions violent deaths during the last century as a result of wars (WWI & WWII) between Christian nations?
    Mrs. Rice is a churchgoer, but this did not stop her from lying and promoting Bush/Cheney policies of mass murder in the Middle East. The US/NATO interventions (illegal according to international law) resulted in some 4 mln deaths, including babies and pregnant women. Very Christian. There is always money for cluster bombs, but never for universal healthcare in the US.
    Look at the history of Christianity: the auto da fe, the persecution of "heretics" (brothers and sisters Christians) during Reformation, the mass murder of ingenious people by Christian colonizers. Dandy.
    Perhaps if the US Christians paid more attention to the machinations of Bush/Cheney cabal instead of zeroing on "no abortion in any circumstances" there would have been no wars in the Middle East and no bags with shredded meat that used to be children.
    http://bladalarb.blogspot.com/2014/09/killing-iraqi-children-with-impunity.html
    http://www.mintpressnews.com/do-the-math-global-war-on-terror-has-killed-4-million-muslims-or-more/208225/

    {It was your call that the totality of muslim are religious fanatics, whereas those born in Christian countries are all saintly.}

    Show me where I wrote that.
    Exactly.

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  89. @annamaria
    "Neither was Christian as adults."
    True. But they were not Muslims - that was my point.
    For the last 15 years, the US population has been bombarded with anti-Muslim hysterics by the MSM and DC speakers. Why? To continue the killing spree in the Middle East? The wars were great for mega war profiteers ($6.5 trillion "can't be accounted" by the Pentagon). At the same time, both Bush dynasty and Clintons have been the bosom buddies with Saudi monarchs (the main supporters of murderous ISIS), while Israelis were treating the wounded "freedom fighters" of ISIS and other "moderate" terrorists. Should we continue discussing the differences between Christian and Muslims or enough already?

    {True. But they were not Muslims – that was my point.}

    What?

    Not being Muslim is equivalent to being Christian?

    {Should we continue discussing the differences between Christian and Muslims or enough already?}

    No, we should.
    And it is not enough already.
    Don’t conflate recent US-Neocon-Zionist Islam obsession with historic genocidal animosity of Islam towards Christians.

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    This is my last remark on the topic of alleged superiority of "virtuous" and "peaceful" Christians over "belligerent" and "genocidal" Muslims:
    There are good people and bad people. Their ethnicity and religion (or lack of religiosity) are of no importance for their moral fiber and degree of empathy; a history of any civilization proves these points. Moreover, the ideology of "chosen," "arian," and such has been fantastically useful for the ruling psychopaths for waging wars for other people's resources. See the ongoing wars in the Middle East.
    By the way, the US' "existential enemy" du jour is Russia. Looks like "genocidal animosity" towards a Christian country.
  90. @Alden
    One reason Americans came to hate Soviet Russia is because of the Russians who fled the Soviet murderers

    San Francisco got 3 waves, the first in 1918 to about 1935 were Russians who fled east and got to the coast of Chiba and thence to San Francisco. 1948 to mid 50's Russians who stopped in China and fled to San Francisco after the communists took over China. Then in mid 1970s another group that is still coming.
    All over the Midwest and east coast there communities of Poles, Hungarians, Germans, Serbs, Bulgarians, Chezch, Slovenes and Slovaks who fled the unspeakable horrors of the communist Russian takeover of their countries after WWW2.
    These people are spread all over the country. I'm visiting relatives who live a few blocks to a beautiful Russian orthodox cathedral built by the 1918 to mid 30s refugees. Chicago has a huge Polish refugee community. Ohio and the Midwest is full of E Europeans whose grand parents fled after WW2.
    People talk to their neighbors and wonder why there is a Russian cathedral or signs in Polish or Hungarian all over the neighborhood and learn about the joys of Russian communist domination.

    Russia did not help us a bit in the Revolution. Spain helped us a lot by sending its navy to roam about India and the Caribbean. This forced the British to keep its troops in those colonies Spain also informed England that any attempt to send troops to New Orleans, Mobile, Florida and other Spanish territories would result in war Prussia and Austria helped by informing the British that they intended to stay neutral as did the Scandinavian countries.

    The Russian navy was basically a Baltic Sea coast guard. Look at the map. Just a few British ships could prevent the Russian coast guard from getting out of the Baktuc into the North Sea.

    France helped with millions of dollars, most of the armaments and thousands of soldiers and the diplomatic expertise to make Spain a non combat ally and the rest of Europe neutral.

    Russia gave us no help at all in the re pluton. We didn't even get a trade treaty until 1832 decades after we signed treaties with the rest of Europe.

    Russia sent Baltic fleet to NY and Pacific fleet to SF during Civil War.

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  91. @exiled off mainstreet
    While I don't go in for extreme conspiracy theories, the article is convincing, and, if the Clintons cause WWIII, the survivors will apportion blame in a manner which resurrects prejudices which had been presumed buried by WWII events.

    We might actually be having WW3 right now. Very. very, few will survive an all out WW3. There can be no Jewish State until the Messiah appears. Everywhere is real! Free Palestine! Hello yourself! Where is that Messiah?

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  92. @Avery
    {True. But they were not Muslims – that was my point.}

    What?

    Not being Muslim is equivalent to being Christian?

    {Should we continue discussing the differences between Christian and Muslims or enough already?}

    No, we should.
    And it is not enough already.
    Don't conflate recent US-Neocon-Zionist Islam obsession with historic genocidal animosity of Islam towards Christians.

    This is my last remark on the topic of alleged superiority of “virtuous” and “peaceful” Christians over “belligerent” and “genocidal” Muslims:
    There are good people and bad people. Their ethnicity and religion (or lack of religiosity) are of no importance for their moral fiber and degree of empathy; a history of any civilization proves these points. Moreover, the ideology of “chosen,” “arian,” and such has been fantastically useful for the ruling psychopaths for waging wars for other people’s resources. See the ongoing wars in the Middle East.
    By the way, the US’ “existential enemy” du jour is Russia. Looks like “genocidal animosity” towards a Christian country.

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    {This is my last remark on the topic of alleged superiority of “virtuous” and “peaceful” Christians over “belligerent” and “genocidal” Muslims....}

    I was hoping it would be your last remark, period.
    Unable to argue facts, you keep manufacturing lies.
    Show me where I wrote Christians are, quote, "superior", or "virtuous", or "peaceful"?

    Keep lying: you are doing great.
  93. A superb article. Hillary has been a paid agent of Israel her whole career. She is not interested in American needs – She feels insulted by needy Americans and has nothing but hatred for us.

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  94. @Barbara
    terrorist [ter-er-ist] /ˈtɛr ər ɪst/ noun
    1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.
    2. a person who terrorizes or frightens others.

    The israeli criminal syndicate are the worst terrorists on the face of the earth, bar none. Their employees, the clinton's, are the 2nd worst terrorists. morrell is a terrorist along with the rest of the cia, fbi, dhs, nsa, pentagon, etc... Everyone who supports or is involved in the attacks on Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Central and South America, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Africa, etc... are terrorists. nato = north american terrorist organization. gwb, obum, bush1, and many previous puppet presidents, their administrations, congress, etc... are and were terrorists. drone attacks = terrorism. Groups who advocate and order terrorism: cfr, ngo's, other think tanks, goldman sachs, imf, council of 13, trilateral commission, committee of 300, black nobility, federal reserve, central banks, world bank, bilderberg, wall street, city of london (bank of england), congress, the military, military industrial complex, militarized police, the media, corporations, so many more, too many to list here, but list them we should, and prosecute.

    The federal reserve/rothschilds/bis, and central bank of Russia are currently terrorizing Russia by devaluing their money and crashing their economy: http://katehon.com/article/purging-russia-evil-rothschild-money-changers. The ambassador to Moscow, john tefft, is said to have made it very clear in this statement: “we will displace Putin from office and install our own people as leaders of the Russian government.” If that's not terrorism, what is? I've lost track of how many countries have had their democratically elected leaders "displaced" similarly by us, with despotic puppets installed. Terrorism.

    soros, kissinger, rockefeller, kochs, the .000001% who support terrorism (all of them?), are terrorists. saudi arabia, qatar, bahrain, jordan, etc... Being elected President and allowing others to make the decisions, is the highest crime. Look what those decisions led to.

    We call the mercenaries terrorists but worst even is those who hire and instructs them. We as a country pay taxes for terrorism so that makes us terrorists. We have blood on our hands on a massive scale. We are non-stop attacking other countries simultaneously. This is not only terrorism, this is genocide on a massive scale. Stealing their resources is a huge crime against humanity. The drug trafficking, human trafficking, money laundering, so much more. It's really quite mind boggling how evil we have become under this rotten to the core israeli control. We imprison people for having medicinal herb and all these mass murderers are not only walking around free, but they're running our government and everything else. No wonder why we're hated all over the world. I feel the same towards them. They've ruined our country!

    We need to impeach these criminals right away. We have to print our own money. Our banks should be modeled after the Bank of North Dakota. We have to fix this mess.

    Barbara, I couldn’t agree with you more. You said it all. These criminals need to be ousted, then prosecuted. The Rothschild Central Bank, aka “Federal Reserve” must be abolished (it’s illegal, anyway), and we have to go back to printing our own money, as the Constitution dictates.
    Never mind that John F. Kennedy was assassinated for issuing/signing an Executive Order abolishing the RCB and printing our own money, as well as demanding that Israel open its nuclear facility at Dimona to inspections for illegal nuclear weapons, among other actions; we have to fix this mess and get right with the rest of the world again.

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    Only responding because I respect Philip Giraldi. Much noise in the comments fallaciously conflating various religions with the nefarious motivations of those who use religion to clothe their crimes.

    Eileen Kuch: “…and we have to go back to printing our own money, as the Constitution dictates.”

    The U.S. Constitution doesn’t dictate that ‘we’ print our own money. It asserts federal authority to ‘coin’ money, which meant to stamp a blob of gold or silver with a seal insuring a specific weight and purity. That’s all. We’d be better off without any government dictates about what defines money, but even the authors of the Constitution didn’t consider money to be something that was ‘printed.’ Bank notes used to be merely receipts for gold or silver on deposit. Bank notes only replaced gold and silver as money by government fiat.
  95. @annamaria
    This is my last remark on the topic of alleged superiority of "virtuous" and "peaceful" Christians over "belligerent" and "genocidal" Muslims:
    There are good people and bad people. Their ethnicity and religion (or lack of religiosity) are of no importance for their moral fiber and degree of empathy; a history of any civilization proves these points. Moreover, the ideology of "chosen," "arian," and such has been fantastically useful for the ruling psychopaths for waging wars for other people's resources. See the ongoing wars in the Middle East.
    By the way, the US' "existential enemy" du jour is Russia. Looks like "genocidal animosity" towards a Christian country.

    {This is my last remark on the topic of alleged superiority of “virtuous” and “peaceful” Christians over “belligerent” and “genocidal” Muslims….}

    I was hoping it would be your last remark, period.
    Unable to argue facts, you keep manufacturing lies.
    Show me where I wrote Christians are, quote, “superior”, or “virtuous”, or “peaceful”?

    Keep lying: you are doing great.

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    Well, this is a different topic now, on your style of arguing. You labeled all muslims genocidal - as compared to totally non-genocidal (?) christians. Check your posts.
    In my previous posts I put my own words, interpreting your understanding of differences between muslims and christians at large, in quotation marks. If I was wrong in my interpretation, refute my words with substance instead of rudeness. Name-calling on a universal topic "them versus us" - not interesting.
  96. @Sam Shama
    S2C Jewish? !!! I daresay not. I on the other hand, am, and can report, in total happiness amongst my Christian, Muslim and atheist brethren.

    You on the other hand, Avery, are a writer of jolly good humour. Anyway, human violence has been around since "the world was turnin'" as the song says. There's been plenty going around, so what's the point regurgitating it all the time? And Muslims by no means, have exclusivity in this blood-sport.

    {… I on the other hand, am, and can report, in total happiness amongst my Christian, Muslim and atheist brethren.}

    Oh, Sam: that is so touching.
    Being Jewish, would you not be happier living amongst your Muslim brethren in Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia, for example?
    You are living in total happiness amongst your various brethren, because you are living in Christian America.

    {And Muslims by no means, have exclusivity in this blood-sport.}

    No, really? I didn’t know that.
    And all this time, in 10s of 1,000 years of human history I though blood-sport started with the birth of Islam ~1,400 years ago.

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  97. @Avery
    Oh, btw2:

    You are Jewish living in Christian America, if I am not mistaken, Yes?
    Living, prospering in peace, I pray, while ragging on Christians?
    Instead of living in the official Jewish State of Israel.
    Where you would be under constant threat of Muslim terrorist attacks: Yes?

    He seems to be an Italian American convert to Zoroastrianism. He worked in Iran but maybe he brought an Iranian bride back with him to US? But my point is,

    If everyone, instead of commenting with their obscure opinions, simply commented once with their life history synopsis – we would all know exactly what they think about everything.

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  98. @Sam Shama
    It is disgusting and discouraging no doubt. Yet I don't see how the actual election could be rigged. The U.S. is not North Korea where Dear Leader gets 100% of votes.

    Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the general election could not be rigged.

    We saw enormous push back from the massive voter fraud in the Gore/Bush election, both in the DNC and in the outrage expressed by the average voter.

    There seem to have been some mild reforms done, after the fact, to ensure it wouldn’t happen again.
    My understanding is those reforms have all but disappeared.

    I think that Obama did win the general election over Romney,and whatever rigging there was by the GOP was not enough to clear the hurdles to push Romney over the top.

    But with clear evidence the DNC is now playing the same dirty pool the GOP did, this time for Hillary, there will be no centralized power base to push back against voter fraud.

    Lets be honest too,the “Citizens United” ruling by the Supreme Court, has permanently changed the rules of the game.

    The old “one man/one vote” has nearly vanished from the United States.

    So yes , Sam, the outcome of the general election is probably more predetermined this election cycle, than ever before.

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  99. @Avery
    {This is my last remark on the topic of alleged superiority of “virtuous” and “peaceful” Christians over “belligerent” and “genocidal” Muslims....}

    I was hoping it would be your last remark, period.
    Unable to argue facts, you keep manufacturing lies.
    Show me where I wrote Christians are, quote, "superior", or "virtuous", or "peaceful"?

    Keep lying: you are doing great.

    Well, this is a different topic now, on your style of arguing. You labeled all muslims genocidal – as compared to totally non-genocidal (?) christians. Check your posts.
    In my previous posts I put my own words, interpreting your understanding of differences between muslims and christians at large, in quotation marks. If I was wrong in my interpretation, refute my words with substance instead of rudeness. Name-calling on a universal topic “them versus us” – not interesting.

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    {If I was wrong in my interpretation, refute my words with substance instead of rudeness.}

    Refute your words with substance?
    You are joking, right?

    You manufactured a bold faced lie about Stalin and Hitler being Christian, to falsely denigrate Christianity and to advance your Islamophile proselytizing: you were debunked with facts - 'substance' (see #61, #67, #73, #78) - but instead of admitting your lie, you came up with another one:

    {True. But they were not Muslims – that was my point.}
    (pssst: No, your point was they were Christian, not that they were not Muslim).

    As to my style of commenting: everybody has their own style.
    I don't 'argue' with other posters: you call it arguing, I see it as debunking and countering misinformation and disinformation on a variety of issues and subjects that are of great interest to me. Some of it is even in the category of inforwars.

    You don't like my style, don't reply to my posts.
  100. @Clyde
    Anyone can wear a yarmulke for ten minutes on a certain solemn occasion, wedding or funeral and more, even Vladimir Putin. Even Phillip Giraldi may have, my bet is at least one or twice. There is a big division in this world between Christian-European nations and Islam. The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.
    So which side are you on boys which side are you on?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbddqXib814

    Clyde, it’s obvious you don’t know any muslims and also obvious you are not a true Christian. In my limited experience of living in a Muslim country for eight years, I would say, WITHOUT A DOUBT, that the VAST amount of Muslims that I knew were WAY more Christ-like than the VAST amount of “Christians” that I know. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

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  101. Very educational:
    An Israeli citizen living in Israeli-run Kiev pretends to be harassed by Kiev’ authorities: http://thesaker.is/ukraines-plot-to-exchange-a-citizen-of-israel-for-terrorists-who-killed-russian-officers-by-scott-humor/

    …Americans wouldn’t place a woman with an Israeli passport in danger. I trust we can all count on that. As for the infamous punitive armed formations collectively called the Right Sector nationalists, we all know that they are being funded by Jewish-Ukrainian Oligarchs, like Kolomoysky who is Mrs. Berdnik’s personal friend, see the pic .
    Since Maidan, she freely travels to Israel to visit her son, an officer of the Israeli military force, Tzahal. She also gives annual “reports’ in Knesset. I would think that if her son felt that she was in any sort of danger, he should do anything possible to persuade her to stay in Israel. She also has a husband and 22 year old daughter who both live with her.”

    The pretense of being persecuted by Kiev’s authorities is played by Mrs. Berdnik in order to liberate two captured terrorists:
    “…the citizens of Israel who live in Russia demand her immediate release [by Kiev' authorities] in exchange for the ethnic Russians arrested for their service to the foreign governments like the US and Israel as the mercenaries and saboteurs. They had conspired to murder Russian citizens and they had killed two Russian officers. Two good Russian men are in graves right now. The children of one of them are left without their father. The second officer died at the age of 22. He didn’t even had a chance to have children. The Russian citizens are dying while the Israeli citizens are screaming about being in mortal danger. In perpetual and permanent mortal danger, if you believe them.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-crimea-attack-idUSKCN10L1EE

    No shame, no conscience, and great passion for money – here is a portrait of Mrs. Berdnik, an Israeli citizen living in Ukraine.

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  102. @Jacques Sheete

    The Jews and Israel are in the Christian camp.
     
    Please provide your definition of a Jew.

    Also, it's my understanding that many of the founders of Zionism and the State of Israel as well as much of the current leadership are atheists. Am I wrong?

    If they are atheists, then how does that put them into the "Christian" camp, or are they just convenient bedfellows for the time being?

    I also wondering if we, as Saul of Tarsus, admonished, shouldn't be aware of those who call themselves Jews but are not.

    I also find it interesting that the major branches of the Abrahamic beliefs often have wildly differing claims and contentions although it doesn't surprise me since nothing's really changed from the time Cain killed Abel.

    If you read Acts, you will see several instances when the early Christians feared the Jews. There is and will always be enmity between Christians and Jews because of their deep differences about Jesus. The newly politically correct Christian Church tries to push a shared heritage, and the Jews are more than glad to have the Christians and Muslims differ where there is no difference.

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    The differences are:
    1. Being a Muslim is adhering to a lifestyle
    2. Being a Christian is adhering to a religious belief
    3. Being a Jew is adhering to a tribal identity
    The first two are voluntary and are open to converts.
    Being a Jew, except in rare circumstances, can only happen by birth - otherwise, one should expect Muslim and Christian Palestinians to save themselves endless grief and covert to Judaism. We all know what kind of welcome that would bring.
  103. @annamaria
    "...in the real world Muslims are decimating Christians in Syria/Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East..."
    Yes they are.
    Recall that Europe had her two Great wars: "The total number of military and civilian casualties in World War I was more than 38 million." "War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total dead ranging from 50 million to more than 80 million."
    As for the current mess in the Middle East, was not this particular situation was described as desirable in Yinon Plan? At least muslims did not create Hitler and Stalin to ruin Europe; these two gentlemen were Christians. And muslims did not come to the US and Europe to do regime changes and other "humanitarian" improvements. In contrast, West has initiated the ongoing slaughter in the Middle East. There was no ISIS before the neo-and ziocons had succeeded in pushing the military interventions in the Middle East.
    Again, to what creed do Bushes, Cheneys, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Clintons belong? - They are Christians. There is also a considerable numbers of untouchables (accepting no accountability), which have been extremely active in creating the ongoing bloodbath in the Middle East: Krisol, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Krauthummer, Perle, Feith, Haas, Kagans, Pletka.... A hungry swarm of psychopaths and opportunists that are not muslims at all. They are Zionists.

    “Again, to what creed do Bushes, Cheneys, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Clintons belong? – They are Christians. ”

    In name only. Anyone can call himself a Christian; it is how hey behave that tells the real story.

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    "Anyone can call himself a Christian; it is how hey behave that tells the real story."
    Agree. Perhaps we should apply the same approach to muslims and others.
  104. @richard vajs
    If you read Acts, you will see several instances when the early Christians feared the Jews. There is and will always be enmity between Christians and Jews because of their deep differences about Jesus. The newly politically correct Christian Church tries to push a shared heritage, and the Jews are more than glad to have the Christians and Muslims differ where there is no difference.

    The differences are:
    1. Being a Muslim is adhering to a lifestyle
    2. Being a Christian is adhering to a religious belief
    3. Being a Jew is adhering to a tribal identity
    The first two are voluntary and are open to converts.
    Being a Jew, except in rare circumstances, can only happen by birth – otherwise, one should expect Muslim and Christian Palestinians to save themselves endless grief and covert to Judaism. We all know what kind of welcome that would bring.

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  105. @schmenz
    "Again, to what creed do Bushes, Cheneys, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Clintons belong? – They are Christians. "

    In name only. Anyone can call himself a Christian; it is how hey behave that tells the real story.

    “Anyone can call himself a Christian; it is how hey behave that tells the real story.”
    Agree. Perhaps we should apply the same approach to muslims and others.

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  106. It looks like the British elites are just as bad as their American counterparts when it comes to protecting or serving Israel’s interests. Nothing new.

    https://www.rt.com/uk/356981-israeli-arms-falklands-war/

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    I just wanted to thank Philip for this very good article. It has the feel of reality and should be made available to the public

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    @annamaria
    "Neither was Christian as adults."
    True. But they were not Muslims - that was my point.
    For the last 15 years, the US population has been bombarded with anti-Muslim hysterics by the MSM and DC speakers. Why? To continue the killing spree in the Middle East? The wars were great for mega war profiteers ($6.5 trillion "can't be accounted" by the Pentagon). At the same time, both Bush dynasty and Clintons have been the bosom buddies with Saudi monarchs (the main supporters of murderous ISIS), while Israelis were treating the wounded "freedom fighters" of ISIS and other "moderate" terrorists. Should we continue discussing the differences between Christian and Muslims or enough already?

    to understand american feelings toward muslims, tally up the terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians . next you can break it down by religion. next you will have your answer that muslim attacks equal more than hindu,buddhist,jewish,christian,sikhism,jainism ,bahai combined,despite being less than 2% of the population.let that sink in . this may be the reason why.

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    "...to understand american feelings toward muslims, tally up the terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians..."
    It is hard for me to think that the Earth is 15-year old. It really has sense to look a little deeper into the thickness of time, let say, the middle of the 19th century.
    "The US may have founded the modern oil industry but it was not alone. The Russians had quickly developed their own industry when Baku in the Caucasus region spouted in 1873. ... While the Americans and Russians were at the forefront of development, Marcus Samuel, the son of a shell merchant from London, had established an extensive trade business with Far Eastern connections to ship kerosene to the rest of the world. He joined forces with the French Rothschild family and in 1891 he was shipping the illuminant oil from the Caucasus through the Suez Canal to Hong Kong and the Dutch East Indies. At the same time Royal Dutch Oil was exploiting far eastern oil and eventually Samuel's Shell Oil and the Rothschilds joined the company to become the powerhouse known as Royal Dutch/Shell." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/918168/posts
    Have you noticed that it was not Middle East that came to the West but the West that came to the Middle East?
    Let's continue: Mohammed Mossadegh, the first democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran and "chairman of the Iranian oil committee to Parliament proposed full nationalization of [oil fields in Iran]. In late 1952, the British raised the possibility of a coup against Mossadegh... It found support in the Eisenhower administration through Secretary of State John Foster Dulles and his brother Allen, the new head of the Central Intelligence... Mossadegh was arrested and the Shah returned to his leadership position..." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/918168/posts
    There is more: "Historically, the United States struggled to balance its support for Israel with its support for the region’s oil producers... American policy makers worked to convince leaders in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, and elsewhere in the Gulf to reinvest the revenues they were generating from the skyrocketing price of oil in the West by spending some of their newfound wealth on Western products and, most importantly, American weapons. The creation of a weapons pipeline deepened the ties between the United States and Gulf oil producers, but the waves of nationalization did help dismantle a geopolitical framework that had served American oil interests in the past. In that system Western oil companies, in cooperation with their home governments, exercised direct control over Middle Eastern oil."
    A summary: the Middle Eastern countries are rich in natural resources, specifically oil. The West wants that oil. The locals have their own ideas about the way of life and about use of their natural resources. However, when these native desires go in conflict with the desires of the West (specifically the US), the natives are given harsh lessons in "democracy on march" and other "improvements in women' lives." See the fate of Iraq, Libya, and Syria. The casualties of these wars have reached beyond 4 mln human beings, including babies, pregnant women, youth, elderly, people in a flower of their lives... http://jah.oxfordjournals.org/content/99/1/208.full
    , @anonymous
    on the other hand, if you tally up the US and other Western (included by or on behalf of Israel), "Christian" military attacks on Muslim civilians on Muslim soil, you will have your answer that Anglo-Christo-zionist -- aka Judeo-Christian-zionisit -- attacks equal more than hindu, buddhist, Persian-Muslim-Zoroastrian, sikhism, jainism, bahai combined, despite Judeo-Christian-zionists having no sovereign rights and no business being in any of those Muslim lands.
    Let that sink in.
    Why do they hate us?
    This may be the reason why.
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    @Mary
    Clyde, it's obvious you don't know any muslims and also obvious you are not a true Christian. In my limited experience of living in a Muslim country for eight years, I would say, WITHOUT A DOUBT, that the VAST amount of Muslims that I knew were WAY more Christ-like than the VAST amount of "Christians" that I know. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

    taqqiyah at its finest

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  110. @anon
    to understand american feelings toward muslims, tally up the terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians . next you can break it down by religion. next you will have your answer that muslim attacks equal more than hindu,buddhist,jewish,christian,sikhism,jainism ,bahai combined,despite being less than 2% of the population.let that sink in . this may be the reason why.

    “…to understand american feelings toward muslims, tally up the terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians…”
    It is hard for me to think that the Earth is 15-year old. It really has sense to look a little deeper into the thickness of time, let say, the middle of the 19th century.
    “The US may have founded the modern oil industry but it was not alone. The Russians had quickly developed their own industry when Baku in the Caucasus region spouted in 1873. … While the Americans and Russians were at the forefront of development, Marcus Samuel, the son of a shell merchant from London, had established an extensive trade business with Far Eastern connections to ship kerosene to the rest of the world. He joined forces with the French Rothschild family and in 1891 he was shipping the illuminant oil from the Caucasus through the Suez Canal to Hong Kong and the Dutch East Indies. At the same time Royal Dutch Oil was exploiting far eastern oil and eventually Samuel’s Shell Oil and the Rothschilds joined the company to become the powerhouse known as Royal Dutch/Shell.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/918168/posts
    Have you noticed that it was not Middle East that came to the West but the West that came to the Middle East?
    Let’s continue: Mohammed Mossadegh, the first democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran and “chairman of the Iranian oil committee to Parliament proposed full nationalization of [oil fields in Iran]. In late 1952, the British raised the possibility of a coup against Mossadegh… It found support in the Eisenhower administration through Secretary of State John Foster Dulles and his brother Allen, the new head of the Central Intelligence… Mossadegh was arrested and the Shah returned to his leadership position…” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/918168/posts
    There is more: “Historically, the United States struggled to balance its support for Israel with its support for the region’s oil producers… American policy makers worked to convince leaders in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, and elsewhere in the Gulf to reinvest the revenues they were generating from the skyrocketing price of oil in the West by spending some of their newfound wealth on Western products and, most importantly, American weapons. The creation of a weapons pipeline deepened the ties between the United States and Gulf oil producers, but the waves of nationalization did help dismantle a geopolitical framework that had served American oil interests in the past. In that system Western oil companies, in cooperation with their home governments, exercised direct control over Middle Eastern oil.”
    A summary: the Middle Eastern countries are rich in natural resources, specifically oil. The West wants that oil. The locals have their own ideas about the way of life and about use of their natural resources. However, when these native desires go in conflict with the desires of the West (specifically the US), the natives are given harsh lessons in “democracy on march” and other “improvements in women’ lives.” See the fate of Iraq, Libya, and Syria. The casualties of these wars have reached beyond 4 mln human beings, including babies, pregnant women, youth, elderly, people in a flower of their lives… http://jah.oxfordjournals.org/content/99/1/208.full

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    It is hard for me to think that the Earth is 15-year old. It really has sense to look a little deeper into the thickness of time, let say, the middle of the 19th century.
     
    You are the queen of straw men. I never said the earth is 15 years old. Our problems with Islamic terrorism goes back to around the time of our nations founding with the barbary wars and attacks on American shipping.It continues to the present day with Omar Mateen and Hassan Nidal &c.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

    Let’s continue: Mohammed Mossadegh, the first democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran and “chairman of the Iranian oil committee to Parliament proposed full nationalization of [oil fields in Iran]. In late 1952, the British raised the possibility of a coup against Mossadegh… It found support in the Eisenhower administration through Secretary of State John Foster Dulles and his brother Allen, the new head of the Central Intelligence… Mossadegh was arrested and the Shah returned to his leadership position…” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/918168/posts
     
    I have heard many accounts of the motivations of Muslim terrorists , I have never heard one reference Mohammad Mossadegh as a motivation .Another straw man ?? Well you are the queen of straw men , what can we expect ??
    Of course the Barbary wars had nothing to do with Mossadegh. Of course the first WTC bombing had nothing to do with Mossadegh. Of course 911 didn't have anything to do with him either. Omar Mateen never mentioned him . &c. &c. &c.


    In the end you have lies and straw men. I said that the sheer volume of muslim terrorism in the united states is a reason for Americans negative feelings toward muslims . Most of the west feels the same way . From January 1 up to the middle of august 2016there were 1274 Islamic attacks in 50 countries, in which 11774 people were killed and 14303 injured. Did you read the part about 50 countries. This is not an American problem . Its an Islam problem .

    During the month of Ramadan this year there were 238 Islamic attacks resulting in 1850 killed. This is in islams holiest month . There were 0 terrorist attacks commited by Jews ,Christians ,Buddhists or Hindus in this time frame . There were also no revenge attacks from Islamaphobes.
  111. @anonymous
    Saying he "ran" the CIA appears to be an exaggeration therefore Morell has credibility issues right from the outset-elsewhere likely to be described as a tendency to lie. His babbling about the Russian connection is bizarre and his loose talk about murdering people he doesn't like is just stupid. These are the kinds of people we have in responsible government positions? The Clintons themselves seem to have been the ultimate sleazy power couple, always looking for their next benefactor. Foreign money and intrigue have permeated the government for a long time now with many countries bidding on our politicians as Sibel Edmonds has shown, including those who fly under the radar of public consciousness. One's eyes just glaze over when looking at the issue and the Clinton's history of moral corruption just goes on and on endlessly.

    ” . . . The Clintons themselves seem to have been the ultimate sleazy power couple, always looking for their next benefactor. . . . One’s eyes just glaze over when looking at the issue and the Clinton’s history of moral corruption just goes on and on endlessly.”

    “Blow Job Bill” and The Pantsuited One are rotten to the core. So are the governments they preside over.

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  112. General Smedley D. Butler:
    “WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.
    …I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”

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  113. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @anon
    to understand american feelings toward muslims, tally up the terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians . next you can break it down by religion. next you will have your answer that muslim attacks equal more than hindu,buddhist,jewish,christian,sikhism,jainism ,bahai combined,despite being less than 2% of the population.let that sink in . this may be the reason why.

    on the other hand, if you tally up the US and other Western (included by or on behalf of Israel), “Christian” military attacks on Muslim civilians on Muslim soil, you will have your answer that Anglo-Christo-zionist — aka Judeo-Christian-zionisit — attacks equal more than hindu, buddhist, Persian-Muslim-Zoroastrian, sikhism, jainism, bahai combined, despite Judeo-Christian-zionists having no sovereign rights and no business being in any of those Muslim lands.
    Let that sink in.
    Why do they hate us?
    This may be the reason why.

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    hmmmmmm muslims conquest of india alone was 70 million plus. sudans subjugation of south sudan and darfur is over 2 million , turkish genocide of armenians,assyrians , greeks etc is approaching 2 million. so you are wrong sir. but i dont blame you for the kitman.

    as far as jews and christians having no business in muslim lands , i support jews and christians staying out of muslim lands as long as muslims stay out of jewish , christian ,hindu and buddhist lands.

    here is the interesting part , since hinduism,christianity, judaism and buddhidm all predate islam , are there even any muslim lands at all ??
  114. @annamaria
    Well, this is a different topic now, on your style of arguing. You labeled all muslims genocidal - as compared to totally non-genocidal (?) christians. Check your posts.
    In my previous posts I put my own words, interpreting your understanding of differences between muslims and christians at large, in quotation marks. If I was wrong in my interpretation, refute my words with substance instead of rudeness. Name-calling on a universal topic "them versus us" - not interesting.

    {If I was wrong in my interpretation, refute my words with substance instead of rudeness.}

    Refute your words with substance?
    You are joking, right?

    You manufactured a bold faced lie about Stalin and Hitler being Christian, to falsely denigrate Christianity and to advance your Islamophile proselytizing: you were debunked with facts – ‘substance’ (see #61, #67, #73, #78) – but instead of admitting your lie, you came up with another one:

    {True. But they were not Muslims – that was my point.}
    (pssst: No, your point was they were Christian, not that they were not Muslim).

    As to my style of commenting: everybody has their own style.
    I don’t ‘argue’ with other posters: you call it arguing, I see it as debunking and countering misinformation and disinformation on a variety of issues and subjects that are of great interest to me. Some of it is even in the category of inforwars.

    You don’t like my style, don’t reply to my posts.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    That was a hysterics, not a measured and informative reply. As for the history of Christianity, the facts have anti-Christian bias, don't they? The European Reformation, Crusades, the fate of the North & South Americas' native populations, the famine in India under Churchill' care, the US/NATO Middle Eastern wars of this century... Tough.
    Sure there are many ugly stories from the history of muslims: Armenian genocide, enslavement of millions of East Europeans for the pleasure of sultans, the period of Musulman Lake... Not much different from the deeds of regular Christians. As for the saints, all religions claim certain exceptionally moral and elevated souls among their best. Again, there are bad people and good people, whether Christians or Muslims or Jews or Buddhists... By the way, the best of Christianity is not about being judgmental of other religions.
  115. @Avery
    {If I was wrong in my interpretation, refute my words with substance instead of rudeness.}

    Refute your words with substance?
    You are joking, right?

    You manufactured a bold faced lie about Stalin and Hitler being Christian, to falsely denigrate Christianity and to advance your Islamophile proselytizing: you were debunked with facts - 'substance' (see #61, #67, #73, #78) - but instead of admitting your lie, you came up with another one:

    {True. But they were not Muslims – that was my point.}
    (pssst: No, your point was they were Christian, not that they were not Muslim).

    As to my style of commenting: everybody has their own style.
    I don't 'argue' with other posters: you call it arguing, I see it as debunking and countering misinformation and disinformation on a variety of issues and subjects that are of great interest to me. Some of it is even in the category of inforwars.

    You don't like my style, don't reply to my posts.

    That was a hysterics, not a measured and informative reply. As for the history of Christianity, the facts have anti-Christian bias, don’t they? The European Reformation, Crusades, the fate of the North & South Americas’ native populations, the famine in India under Churchill’ care, the US/NATO Middle Eastern wars of this century… Tough.
    Sure there are many ugly stories from the history of muslims: Armenian genocide, enslavement of millions of East Europeans for the pleasure of sultans, the period of Musulman Lake… Not much different from the deeds of regular Christians. As for the saints, all religions claim certain exceptionally moral and elevated souls among their best. Again, there are bad people and good people, whether Christians or Muslims or Jews or Buddhists… By the way, the best of Christianity is not about being judgmental of other religions.

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  116. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @anonymous
    on the other hand, if you tally up the US and other Western (included by or on behalf of Israel), "Christian" military attacks on Muslim civilians on Muslim soil, you will have your answer that Anglo-Christo-zionist -- aka Judeo-Christian-zionisit -- attacks equal more than hindu, buddhist, Persian-Muslim-Zoroastrian, sikhism, jainism, bahai combined, despite Judeo-Christian-zionists having no sovereign rights and no business being in any of those Muslim lands.
    Let that sink in.
    Why do they hate us?
    This may be the reason why.

    hmmmmmm muslims conquest of india alone was 70 million plus. sudans subjugation of south sudan and darfur is over 2 million , turkish genocide of armenians,assyrians , greeks etc is approaching 2 million. so you are wrong sir. but i dont blame you for the kitman.

    as far as jews and christians having no business in muslim lands , i support jews and christians staying out of muslim lands as long as muslims stay out of jewish , christian ,hindu and buddhist lands.

    here is the interesting part , since hinduism,christianity, judaism and buddhidm all predate islam , are there even any muslim lands at all ??

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    {turkish genocide of armenians,assyrians , greeks etc is approaching 2 million.}

    Muslim Turk genocide of Armenians approached about 2 million between 1894-1923 alone. Unknown millions of Christians in Asia Minor were ethnically cleansed, forcibly Islamized or Turkified by invading UygurTürkoğlar hordes in the centuries before that.

    Between 1915 and 1923 another ~2 million Assyrian Christians and Greek Christians were subjected to Genocide by Muslim Turks, who are still squatting on Christian Asia Minor, after completely exterminating the indigenous populations. The savage Muslim nomads from Uyguristan destroyed 1,000s of years of civilizations. Churches were converted to barns or mosques. Whatever was not destroyed was misappropriated or outright stolen.

    Exhibit A: the magnificent Hagia Sophia was defiled by nomad Muslim invaders. Any known instances of Christians converting mosques to churches, I ask our Islamophile propogandists?

    {are there even any muslim lands at all ??}

    Yes: Arabian peninnisula, Mecca.
    Nothing else.

  117. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @annamaria
    "...to understand american feelings toward muslims, tally up the terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians..."
    It is hard for me to think that the Earth is 15-year old. It really has sense to look a little deeper into the thickness of time, let say, the middle of the 19th century.
    "The US may have founded the modern oil industry but it was not alone. The Russians had quickly developed their own industry when Baku in the Caucasus region spouted in 1873. ... While the Americans and Russians were at the forefront of development, Marcus Samuel, the son of a shell merchant from London, had established an extensive trade business with Far Eastern connections to ship kerosene to the rest of the world. He joined forces with the French Rothschild family and in 1891 he was shipping the illuminant oil from the Caucasus through the Suez Canal to Hong Kong and the Dutch East Indies. At the same time Royal Dutch Oil was exploiting far eastern oil and eventually Samuel's Shell Oil and the Rothschilds joined the company to become the powerhouse known as Royal Dutch/Shell." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/918168/posts
    Have you noticed that it was not Middle East that came to the West but the West that came to the Middle East?
    Let's continue: Mohammed Mossadegh, the first democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran and "chairman of the Iranian oil committee to Parliament proposed full nationalization of [oil fields in Iran]. In late 1952, the British raised the possibility of a coup against Mossadegh... It found support in the Eisenhower administration through Secretary of State John Foster Dulles and his brother Allen, the new head of the Central Intelligence... Mossadegh was arrested and the Shah returned to his leadership position..." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/918168/posts
    There is more: "Historically, the United States struggled to balance its support for Israel with its support for the region’s oil producers... American policy makers worked to convince leaders in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, and elsewhere in the Gulf to reinvest the revenues they were generating from the skyrocketing price of oil in the West by spending some of their newfound wealth on Western products and, most importantly, American weapons. The creation of a weapons pipeline deepened the ties between the United States and Gulf oil producers, but the waves of nationalization did help dismantle a geopolitical framework that had served American oil interests in the past. In that system Western oil companies, in cooperation with their home governments, exercised direct control over Middle Eastern oil."
    A summary: the Middle Eastern countries are rich in natural resources, specifically oil. The West wants that oil. The locals have their own ideas about the way of life and about use of their natural resources. However, when these native desires go in conflict with the desires of the West (specifically the US), the natives are given harsh lessons in "democracy on march" and other "improvements in women' lives." See the fate of Iraq, Libya, and Syria. The casualties of these wars have reached beyond 4 mln human beings, including babies, pregnant women, youth, elderly, people in a flower of their lives... http://jah.oxfordjournals.org/content/99/1/208.full

    It is hard for me to think that the Earth is 15-year old. It really has sense to look a little deeper into the thickness of time, let say, the middle of the 19th century.

    You are the queen of straw men. I never said the earth is 15 years old. Our problems with Islamic terrorism goes back to around the time of our nations founding with the barbary wars and attacks on American shipping.It continues to the present day with Omar Mateen and Hassan Nidal &c.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

    Let’s continue: Mohammed Mossadegh, the first democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran and “chairman of the Iranian oil committee to Parliament proposed full nationalization of [oil fields in Iran]. In late 1952, the British raised the possibility of a coup against Mossadegh… It found support in the Eisenhower administration through Secretary of State John Foster Dulles and his brother Allen, the new head of the Central Intelligence… Mossadegh was arrested and the Shah returned to his leadership position…” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/918168/posts

    I have heard many accounts of the motivations of Muslim terrorists , I have never heard one reference Mohammad Mossadegh as a motivation .Another straw man ?? Well you are the queen of straw men , what can we expect ??
    Of course the Barbary wars had nothing to do with Mossadegh. Of course the first WTC bombing had nothing to do with Mossadegh. Of course 911 didn’t have anything to do with him either. Omar Mateen never mentioned him . &c. &c. &c.

    In the end you have lies and straw men. I said that the sheer volume of muslim terrorism in the united states is a reason for Americans negative feelings toward muslims . Most of the west feels the same way . From January 1 up to the middle of august 2016there were 1274 Islamic attacks in 50 countries, in which 11774 people were killed and 14303 injured. Did you read the part about 50 countries. This is not an American problem . Its an Islam problem .

    During the month of Ramadan this year there were 238 Islamic attacks resulting in 1850 killed. This is in islams holiest month . There were 0 terrorist attacks commited by Jews ,Christians ,Buddhists or Hindus in this time frame . There were also no revenge attacks from Islamaphobes.

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    Benjamin Netanyahu urges US Congress committee to attack Iraq (Sept 12 2002)
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?172612-1/israeli-perspective-conflict-iraq


    Mortality after the 2003 invasion of Iraq: a cross-sectional cluster sample survey
    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(06)69491-9/abstract
    Summary
    An excess mortality of nearly 100 000 deaths was reported in Iraq for the period March, 2003–September, 2004, attributed to the invasion of Iraq. Our aim was to update this estimate.



    Palestinian deaths vs Israeli (Jewish) deaths, 2000 - Present
    http://www.ifamericansknew.org

    US Bombing Libya AGAIN Wed, 08/03/2016

    “Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East The "Oded Yinon Plan".

    The Ralph Peters Map: NATO's Plan for Redrawing the Borders in the Middle East Known as the Peters Map, after Ralph Peters its producer, the map below represents a vision of the MIddle East in which virtually all the boundaries have been changed as a result of NATO military operations, aided by auxiliary forces described as “rebels”. Peters is a former military officer and intelligence expert with access to the highest levels of the US government. The map appears in a book published by Peters in 2008.

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    at this point I'm at a loss:
    Can someone please supply the Iranian map for the division of USA;
    or the video of Muammar Qaddafi urging the Libyan Parliament to declare war on the USA;
    or the numbers of American infants born without heads as a result of Saddam's bombing of American soil with depleted uranium?
  118. @anon
    hmmmmmm muslims conquest of india alone was 70 million plus. sudans subjugation of south sudan and darfur is over 2 million , turkish genocide of armenians,assyrians , greeks etc is approaching 2 million. so you are wrong sir. but i dont blame you for the kitman.

    as far as jews and christians having no business in muslim lands , i support jews and christians staying out of muslim lands as long as muslims stay out of jewish , christian ,hindu and buddhist lands.

    here is the interesting part , since hinduism,christianity, judaism and buddhidm all predate islam , are there even any muslim lands at all ??

    {turkish genocide of armenians,assyrians , greeks etc is approaching 2 million.}

    Muslim Turk genocide of Armenians approached about 2 million between 1894-1923 alone. Unknown millions of Christians in Asia Minor were ethnically cleansed, forcibly Islamized or Turkified by invading UygurTürkoğlar hordes in the centuries before that.

    Between 1915 and 1923 another ~2 million Assyrian Christians and Greek Christians were subjected to Genocide by Muslim Turks, who are still squatting on Christian Asia Minor, after completely exterminating the indigenous populations. The savage Muslim nomads from Uyguristan destroyed 1,000s of years of civilizations. Churches were converted to barns or mosques. Whatever was not destroyed was misappropriated or outright stolen.

    Exhibit A: the magnificent Hagia Sophia was defiled by nomad Muslim invaders. Any known instances of Christians converting mosques to churches, I ask our Islamophile propogandists?

    {are there even any muslim lands at all ??}

    Yes: Arabian peninnisula, Mecca.
    Nothing else.

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  119. @anon

    It is hard for me to think that the Earth is 15-year old. It really has sense to look a little deeper into the thickness of time, let say, the middle of the 19th century.
     
    You are the queen of straw men. I never said the earth is 15 years old. Our problems with Islamic terrorism goes back to around the time of our nations founding with the barbary wars and attacks on American shipping.It continues to the present day with Omar Mateen and Hassan Nidal &c.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

    Let’s continue: Mohammed Mossadegh, the first democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran and “chairman of the Iranian oil committee to Parliament proposed full nationalization of [oil fields in Iran]. In late 1952, the British raised the possibility of a coup against Mossadegh… It found support in the Eisenhower administration through Secretary of State John Foster Dulles and his brother Allen, the new head of the Central Intelligence… Mossadegh was arrested and the Shah returned to his leadership position…” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/918168/posts
     
    I have heard many accounts of the motivations of Muslim terrorists , I have never heard one reference Mohammad Mossadegh as a motivation .Another straw man ?? Well you are the queen of straw men , what can we expect ??
    Of course the Barbary wars had nothing to do with Mossadegh. Of course the first WTC bombing had nothing to do with Mossadegh. Of course 911 didn't have anything to do with him either. Omar Mateen never mentioned him . &c. &c. &c.


    In the end you have lies and straw men. I said that the sheer volume of muslim terrorism in the united states is a reason for Americans negative feelings toward muslims . Most of the west feels the same way . From January 1 up to the middle of august 2016there were 1274 Islamic attacks in 50 countries, in which 11774 people were killed and 14303 injured. Did you read the part about 50 countries. This is not an American problem . Its an Islam problem .

    During the month of Ramadan this year there were 238 Islamic attacks resulting in 1850 killed. This is in islams holiest month . There were 0 terrorist attacks commited by Jews ,Christians ,Buddhists or Hindus in this time frame . There were also no revenge attacks from Islamaphobes.

    Benjamin Netanyahu urges US Congress committee to attack Iraq (Sept 12 2002)

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?172612-1/israeli-perspective-conflict-iraq

    Mortality after the 2003 invasion of Iraq: a cross-sectional cluster sample survey

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(06)69491-9/abstract

    Summary
    An excess mortality of nearly 100 000 deaths was reported in Iraq for the period March, 2003–September, 2004, attributed to the invasion of Iraq. Our aim was to update this estimate.

    Palestinian deaths vs Israeli (Jewish) deaths, 2000 – Present

    http://www.ifamericansknew.org

    US Bombing Libya AGAIN Wed, 08/03/2016

    “Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East The “Oded Yinon Plan”.

    The Ralph Peters Map: NATO’s Plan for Redrawing the Borders in the Middle East Known as the Peters Map, after Ralph Peters its producer, the map below represents a vision of the MIddle East in which virtually all the boundaries have been changed as a result of NATO military operations, aided by auxiliary forces described as “rebels”. Peters is a former military officer and intelligence expert with access to the highest levels of the US government. The map appears in a book published by Peters in 2008.

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    at this point I’m at a loss:
    Can someone please supply the Iranian map for the division of USA;
    or the video of Muammar Qaddafi urging the Libyan Parliament to declare war on the USA;
    or the numbers of American infants born without heads as a result of Saddam’s bombing of American soil with depleted uranium?

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    How did this become about wars, nations, etc.?

    The original (incorrect) assertion was about "terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians" --- in which case Muslims lag far behind white supremacists (generally "Christian") and several other categories.
  120. @Alden
    Was it Rahm Emmanuel? I wonder what he did during that war? The IDF is very very careful to give the American volunteers a bit of combat experience but never to get them near the action.

    Wouldn't want Hadassah to turn off the shekel faucet would they.

    Mr. Giraldi already answered that, ‘nope’. Do try to read before commenting.

    Rahm E. did have a lucrative spell as some kind of ‘transport contractor’ for Israel during the Gulf War, but from memory, that had more to do with maintaing the occupation of southern Lebanon and was only coincidental with the Gulf.

    That presumably meant getting a nice little slice of the billions so benevolently lavished on impoverished, loyal Israel by the US taxpayer.

    There is nothing on it in stupid Wikipedia (his bio. is, predictably, a whitewash), and search engines seem to have been bombed to keep it out.

    Any Unzer playing with Wikipedia may enjoy trying to get that info. in.

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  121. @SolontoCroesus
    Benjamin Netanyahu urges US Congress committee to attack Iraq (Sept 12 2002)
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?172612-1/israeli-perspective-conflict-iraq


    Mortality after the 2003 invasion of Iraq: a cross-sectional cluster sample survey
    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(06)69491-9/abstract
    Summary
    An excess mortality of nearly 100 000 deaths was reported in Iraq for the period March, 2003–September, 2004, attributed to the invasion of Iraq. Our aim was to update this estimate.



    Palestinian deaths vs Israeli (Jewish) deaths, 2000 - Present
    http://www.ifamericansknew.org

    US Bombing Libya AGAIN Wed, 08/03/2016

    “Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East The "Oded Yinon Plan".

    The Ralph Peters Map: NATO's Plan for Redrawing the Borders in the Middle East Known as the Peters Map, after Ralph Peters its producer, the map below represents a vision of the MIddle East in which virtually all the boundaries have been changed as a result of NATO military operations, aided by auxiliary forces described as “rebels”. Peters is a former military officer and intelligence expert with access to the highest levels of the US government. The map appears in a book published by Peters in 2008.

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    at this point I'm at a loss:
    Can someone please supply the Iranian map for the division of USA;
    or the video of Muammar Qaddafi urging the Libyan Parliament to declare war on the USA;
    or the numbers of American infants born without heads as a result of Saddam's bombing of American soil with depleted uranium?

    How did this become about wars, nations, etc.?

    The original (incorrect) assertion was about “terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians” — in which case Muslims lag far behind white supremacists (generally “Christian”) and several other categories.

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    The original (incorrect) assertion was about “terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians” — in which case Muslims lag far behind white supremacists (generally “Christian”) and several other categories.
     
    3700 terrorism deaths on US soil since 1970. 911 was muslim (3000), omar mateen was muslim(50+-) , san bernardino was muslim (17) , nidal hasan was muslim (13).

    vast majority of terror in US over the past 46 years was muslim terrorism. ok so where are all of your christian white supremacist (as you referred to them) terrorists ????

  122. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @RobinG
    How did this become about wars, nations, etc.?

    The original (incorrect) assertion was about "terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians" --- in which case Muslims lag far behind white supremacists (generally "Christian") and several other categories.

    The original (incorrect) assertion was about “terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians” — in which case Muslims lag far behind white supremacists (generally “Christian”) and several other categories.

    3700 terrorism deaths on US soil since 1970. 911 was muslim (3000), omar mateen was muslim(50+-) , san bernardino was muslim (17) , nidal hasan was muslim (13).

    vast majority of terror in US over the past 46 years was muslim terrorism. ok so where are all of your christian white supremacist (as you referred to them) terrorists ????

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    The US presidents take their oaths on Bible - don't they?

    "Monica wars" by Clinton - the terrorist destruction of Serbia and making 500.000 children dead in Iraq "worth it" (according to the Jewish/Catholic M. Albright).
    There have been extra judicial killings (terrorist acts) and renditions, as well as "enhanced interrogations" (torture), practiced by the Christian nation of US.
    Bush-the-lesser (the first Methodist president) abhorred diplomacy. Bush started the illegal war-for-oil in Iraq and the previously functioning state of Iraq became the world capital of terrorism.
    Bush' wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the Obamas' subhuman interventions in Libya and Syria have resulted in 4 mln violent deaths, mostly civilians, in the Middle East. The US-wrought deaths and destruction have radicalized Middle East populations and produced ISIS; competent brass in the US warned about the inevitable radicalization, but radicalization was exactly the goal of the war profiteers in high places in the US/Israel. ISIS is armed with the US-made weaponry and ISIS terrorists have been treated by Israeli medics.

    Lets look at Christian Ukraine: in 2014 the US State Dept. came to town - and voila! - a civil war ensued and 10.000 Ukrainians died (up to date). The US used a combo of local oligarchs and neo-Nazis to generate Ukrainian state terrorism against civilians asking for federalization of east Ukraine (for a federal government, like in the US). http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/04/hitlers-birthday-us-begin-openly-training-neo-nazi-integrated-forces-ukraine.html

    If you still want to talk about the times of Muslim pirates, you should know that the pirates were no match to the Christian conquistadors that came to the Americas to kill and rob the native human populations. Check the numbers: "a population decline ratio of 58:1 during the years of 1520–1571."
    There is also Mossad (very skillful in extrajudicial killings) and the terrorist operation Gladio, "a NATO-backed network of armed soldiers inside the nations of Europe outside effective control of national governments. Ostensibly intended for use only in case of a Soviet invasion, Gladio carried out a string of false flag terror attacks. In 1990, the European parliament asked all member states to launch investigations, but only 5 national governments did so." https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio
  123. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Eileen Kuch
    Barbara, I couldn't agree with you more. You said it all. These criminals need to be ousted, then prosecuted. The Rothschild Central Bank, aka "Federal Reserve" must be abolished (it's illegal, anyway), and we have to go back to printing our own money, as the Constitution dictates.
    Never mind that John F. Kennedy was assassinated for issuing/signing an Executive Order abolishing the RCB and printing our own money, as well as demanding that Israel open its nuclear facility at Dimona to inspections for illegal nuclear weapons, among other actions; we have to fix this mess and get right with the rest of the world again.

    Only responding because I respect Philip Giraldi. Much noise in the comments fallaciously conflating various religions with the nefarious motivations of those who use religion to clothe their crimes.

    Eileen Kuch: “…and we have to go back to printing our own money, as the Constitution dictates.”

    The U.S. Constitution doesn’t dictate that ‘we’ print our own money. It asserts federal authority to ‘coin’ money, which meant to stamp a blob of gold or silver with a seal insuring a specific weight and purity. That’s all. We’d be better off without any government dictates about what defines money, but even the authors of the Constitution didn’t consider money to be something that was ‘printed.’ Bank notes used to be merely receipts for gold or silver on deposit. Bank notes only replaced gold and silver as money by government fiat.

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    Thank you pointing out facts to our constitutional experts in the commentary section.
  124. @anon

    The original (incorrect) assertion was about “terrorist attacks on usa soil against civilians” — in which case Muslims lag far behind white supremacists (generally “Christian”) and several other categories.
     
    3700 terrorism deaths on US soil since 1970. 911 was muslim (3000), omar mateen was muslim(50+-) , san bernardino was muslim (17) , nidal hasan was muslim (13).

    vast majority of terror in US over the past 46 years was muslim terrorism. ok so where are all of your christian white supremacist (as you referred to them) terrorists ????

    The US presidents take their oaths on Bible – don’t they?

    “Monica wars” by Clinton – the terrorist destruction of Serbia and making 500.000 children dead in Iraq “worth it” (according to the Jewish/Catholic M. Albright).
    There have been extra judicial killings (terrorist acts) and renditions, as well as “enhanced interrogations” (torture), practiced by the Christian nation of US.
    Bush-the-lesser (the first Methodist president) abhorred diplomacy. Bush started the illegal war-for-oil in Iraq and the previously functioning state of Iraq became the world capital of terrorism.
    Bush’ wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the Obamas’ subhuman interventions in Libya and Syria have resulted in 4 mln violent deaths, mostly civilians, in the Middle East. The US-wrought deaths and destruction have radicalized Middle East populations and produced ISIS; competent brass in the US warned about the inevitable radicalization, but radicalization was exactly the goal of the war profiteers in high places in the US/Israel. ISIS is armed with the US-made weaponry and ISIS terrorists have been treated by Israeli medics.

    Lets look at Christian Ukraine: in 2014 the US State Dept. came to town – and voila! – a civil war ensued and 10.000 Ukrainians died (up to date). The US used a combo of local oligarchs and neo-Nazis to generate Ukrainian state terrorism against civilians asking for federalization of east Ukraine (for a federal government, like in the US). http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/04/hitlers-birthday-us-begin-openly-training-neo-nazi-integrated-forces-ukraine.html

    If you still want to talk about the times of Muslim pirates, you should know that the pirates were no match to the Christian conquistadors that came to the Americas to kill and rob the native human populations. Check the numbers: “a population decline ratio of 58:1 during the years of 1520–1571.”
    There is also Mossad (very skillful in extrajudicial killings) and the terrorist operation Gladio, “a NATO-backed network of armed soldiers inside the nations of Europe outside effective control of national governments. Ostensibly intended for use only in case of a Soviet invasion, Gladio carried out a string of false flag terror attacks. In 1990, the European parliament asked all member states to launch investigations, but only 5 national governments did so.” https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio

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    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus

    The US presidents take their oaths on Bible – don’t they?
     
    Thomas Jefferson studied the Bible as well as other systems of morality (i.e. the Greek philosophers) comparatively and carefully.

    In 1803 Jefferson wrote to his friend, Dr. Benjamin Rush:

    To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed opposed, but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others, ascribing to himself every human excellence, and believing he never claimed any other.
     
    In his correspondence with Rush he alluded to his Syllabus --

    an Estimate of the Merit of the Doctrines of Jesus, Compared with Those of Others; more precisely, Jesus compared to the philosophers and to Jews.

    Of the latter he wrote:

    II. Jews.
    1. Their system was Deism; that is, the belief in one only God. But their ideas of him and of his attributes were degrading and injurious.
    2. Their Ethics were not only imperfect, but often irreconcilable with the sound dictates of reason and morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us; and repulsive and anti-social, as respecting other nations. They needed reformation, therefore, in an eminent degree.
    . . .
    III. Jesus.
    In this state of things among the Jews, Jesus appeared. His parentage was obscure; his condition poor; his education null; his natural endowments great; his life correct and innocent: he was meek, benevolent, patient, firm, disinterested, and of the sublimest eloquence.
     
    ("His parentage being obscure," I speculate that it is as likely that his father was Mithraic, or Zoroastrian, or Roman, as any other line of descent, but that it is almost impossible to believe that Jesus was not conversant with the concepts of Mithraism and of Zoroaster.)

    Jefferson composed, rather, de-constructed the New Testament, removing from it items such as miracles that did not seem to fit Jefferson's idea of how a natural man of "every human excellence" would behave. The product was the so-called Jefferson Bible, or The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth.

    My copy of The Life and Morals still includes an introduction by a member of the Church family (they of the Frank Church Committee). Under their sponsorship, each new member of Congress (?? or Senate, I forget which, or both) was presented with a copy of The Jefferson Bible as he/she began his career as a U.S. legislator.
    That tradition continued for many years but was discontinued in about the Clinton era.

    imo, Thomas Jefferson was part of that quest to find the human Jesus that was pursued by several of his contemporaries in Europe, and also by Walter Grundmann, who led a scholarly and well-supported movement in Germany in the Weimar and NSDAP era (and afterwards) to make the separation that Jefferson alluded to: to explicate a Jesus separated from the matrix of "Jewish ethics" and their "imperfect state" to one that more closely resonated with what the German people felt appropriate for their culture.

    For that thought crime, Susannah Heschel, a professed and ardent zionist Jew, excoriated Grundmann and the movement he headed in Germany. The quest for an "Aryan Jesus" was labeled -- wait for it -- antisemitic. The German people were not to be permitted to define their own religious beliefs.
    Jefferson's beliefs and a version of Christianity that follows his path are being erased from the American landscape in a more subtle but no less systematic way, in preference for Jewish perceptions of god and religion that Jefferson considered

    "degrading and injurious. . . .
    Their Ethics . . . not only imperfect, but often irreconcilable with the sound dictates of reason and morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us; and repulsive and anti-social, as respecting other nations."


    ---
    Here's another project for you Jacues Sheete, after the Plutarch's Lives comparison of Churchill and Hitler is put to bed:

    What would the USA look like today if Thomas Jefferson's version of The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth had been distributed as widely as, say, the Oxford Bible, or the Gideon Bible, or the Scofield Bible?

    What if, instead of evangelicalism or fundamentalism, Jeffersonian Christianity had caught hold and dominated the American religious landscape?

    What if the presidents took their oaths on the Jefferson Bible?
    , @anon
    so you cannot name any christian terrorists. at least you can set up straw men.
  125. David Talbot described in DEVILS CHESSBOARD how the CIA was created with the financial assistance of Wall Street to thwart the actions of government. Presidents who have been obstructive of CIA war-mongering have been punished; presidents who have promoted CIA war-mongering have been rewarded.

    It is submitted Wall Street is responsible, using the CIA and the US military, to initiate and maintain war-mongering throughout the world. Ref. KILLING HOPE by William Blum; CONFESSIONS OF ECONOMIC HIT MAN by John Perkins. They obtain funding for their operation by the Federal Reserve embezzling from the US government.

    Consider the theorized hidden owners of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve are embezzling $5-6 Billion daily from the government. They have successfully operated the scheme for 100 years.

    The Federal Reserve system is embezzling the money using the FRBNY’s exclusive control of disbursements of the auction accounts of Treasury securities. Ref. 31 CFR 375.3. The flow of funds generated by the auction accounts have no viable alternate destination. Ref. http://www.scribd.com/doc/48194264/rip-off-by-the-Fein deral-Reserve-revised.

    The evidence that the Federal Reserve is embezzling using the above accounting scam is in plain sight for those who wish to see it: (Actually, the scheme was identified by a professor to my graduate course of Money and Banking.)

    ONE: The FRBNY will only establish a line of credit for the government (book entry money) when they receive a Treasury security in the amount of the line of credit.

    TWO: The deficit security is sold as a small percentage on the auctioned roll-over securitiies. The FRBNY handles all of the accounts and disbursements. Ref. 31 CFR 375.3. The accounts are client accounts (not operational accounts) and have never been audited. Audits os the FR are conducted according to guidelines established by the BOG.

    THREE: Funds from auctioning the deficit security issues (currently $2 trillion annually, $6 billion daily) cannot go to the government. If they did, they would have to buy the securities just issued since no other securities have been purchased. Under those circumstances, there would be no increase in the money in circulation (inflation) nor would there be any increase in the national debt. The money from the auction must go somewhere but it cannot go to the government.

    FOUR: The only feasible destination for the funds is to members of the Primary Dealers who are tasked with collecting called and redeemed Treasury securities. As hidden owners of the corporate Board of Governors (privately owned corporations are not required to file records with the SEC), they can receive deficit spending profit along with funds for the roll-over security work. The owners have put up no consideration for receiving $6 billion daily, even thou it is touted as a loan. (If the non-existing loan was being paid off by the hidden money, it would then result is eliminating any increase in the National Debt.) (The operation of the BOG readily lends itself to a corporate structure; the FR System does not.)

    FIVE: Profit of the Federal Reserve legally belongs to the government.

    It is assumed the same profitable scam has been set up with the Euro with each nation pledging to guarantee payment on the securities sold by the ECB. The money from the sale of the securities is theorized, based upon the Federal Reserve documented scheme, to go to the controllers/owners of the ECB. Money from the above operations are theorized to fund the New World Order scheme. Ref.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/115919607/FUNDING-THE-NEW-WORLD-ORDER.

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    Your "Prof" from the Money and Banking, must have had a class full of "olde rebs" with eyes and ears wide shut to receive and revel in economic titillation.

    What you have just attempted to do [by re-directing to an "official" looking scribd page] is a pathetic exercise to explain the process of seignorage.

    Olde reb, go and read the mishneh Torah instead.

    [Also this comments section is not meant for this subject; let's find an appropriate one and I'll gladly filet your position]

  126. @Anonymous
    Only responding because I respect Philip Giraldi. Much noise in the comments fallaciously conflating various religions with the nefarious motivations of those who use religion to clothe their crimes.

    Eileen Kuch: “…and we have to go back to printing our own money, as the Constitution dictates.”

    The U.S. Constitution doesn’t dictate that ‘we’ print our own money. It asserts federal authority to ‘coin’ money, which meant to stamp a blob of gold or silver with a seal insuring a specific weight and purity. That’s all. We’d be better off without any government dictates about what defines money, but even the authors of the Constitution didn’t consider money to be something that was ‘printed.’ Bank notes used to be merely receipts for gold or silver on deposit. Bank notes only replaced gold and silver as money by government fiat.

    Thank you pointing out facts to our constitutional experts in the commentary section.

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  127. @annamaria
    The US presidents take their oaths on Bible - don't they?

    "Monica wars" by Clinton - the terrorist destruction of Serbia and making 500.000 children dead in Iraq "worth it" (according to the Jewish/Catholic M. Albright).
    There have been extra judicial killings (terrorist acts) and renditions, as well as "enhanced interrogations" (torture), practiced by the Christian nation of US.
    Bush-the-lesser (the first Methodist president) abhorred diplomacy. Bush started the illegal war-for-oil in Iraq and the previously functioning state of Iraq became the world capital of terrorism.
    Bush' wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the Obamas' subhuman interventions in Libya and Syria have resulted in 4 mln violent deaths, mostly civilians, in the Middle East. The US-wrought deaths and destruction have radicalized Middle East populations and produced ISIS; competent brass in the US warned about the inevitable radicalization, but radicalization was exactly the goal of the war profiteers in high places in the US/Israel. ISIS is armed with the US-made weaponry and ISIS terrorists have been treated by Israeli medics.

    Lets look at Christian Ukraine: in 2014 the US State Dept. came to town - and voila! - a civil war ensued and 10.000 Ukrainians died (up to date). The US used a combo of local oligarchs and neo-Nazis to generate Ukrainian state terrorism against civilians asking for federalization of east Ukraine (for a federal government, like in the US). http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/04/hitlers-birthday-us-begin-openly-training-neo-nazi-integrated-forces-ukraine.html

    If you still want to talk about the times of Muslim pirates, you should know that the pirates were no match to the Christian conquistadors that came to the Americas to kill and rob the native human populations. Check the numbers: "a population decline ratio of 58:1 during the years of 1520–1571."
    There is also Mossad (very skillful in extrajudicial killings) and the terrorist operation Gladio, "a NATO-backed network of armed soldiers inside the nations of Europe outside effective control of national governments. Ostensibly intended for use only in case of a Soviet invasion, Gladio carried out a string of false flag terror attacks. In 1990, the European parliament asked all member states to launch investigations, but only 5 national governments did so." https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio

    The US presidents take their oaths on Bible – don’t they?

    Thomas Jefferson studied the Bible as well as other systems of morality (i.e. the Greek philosophers) comparatively and carefully.

    In 1803 Jefferson wrote to his friend, Dr. Benjamin Rush:

    To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed opposed, but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others, ascribing to himself every human excellence, and believing he never claimed any other.

    In his correspondence with Rush he alluded to his Syllabus

    an Estimate of the Merit of the Doctrines of Jesus, Compared with Those of Others; more precisely, Jesus compared to the philosophers and to Jews.

    Of the latter he wrote:

    II. Jews.
    1. Their system was Deism; that is, the belief in one only God. But their ideas of him and of his attributes were degrading and injurious.
    2. Their Ethics were not only imperfect, but often irreconcilable with the sound dictates of reason and morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us; and repulsive and anti-social, as respecting other nations. They needed reformation, therefore, in an eminent degree.
    . . .
    III. Jesus.
    In this state of things among the Jews, Jesus appeared. His parentage was obscure; his condition poor; his education null; his natural endowments great; his life correct and innocent: he was meek, benevolent, patient, firm, disinterested, and of the sublimest eloquence.

    (“His parentage being obscure,” I speculate that it is as likely that his father was Mithraic, or Zoroastrian, or Roman, as any other line of descent, but that it is almost impossible to believe that Jesus was not conversant with the concepts of Mithraism and of Zoroaster.)

    Jefferson composed, rather, de-constructed the New Testament, removing from it items such as miracles that did not seem to fit Jefferson’s idea of how a natural man of “every human excellence” would behave. The product was the so-called Jefferson Bible, or The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth.

    My copy of The Life and Morals still includes an introduction by a member of the Church family (they of the Frank Church Committee). Under their sponsorship, each new member of Congress (?? or Senate, I forget which, or both) was presented with a copy of The Jefferson Bible as he/she began his career as a U.S. legislator.
    That tradition continued for many years but was discontinued in about the Clinton era.

    imo, Thomas Jefferson was part of that quest to find the human Jesus that was pursued by several of his contemporaries in Europe, and also by Walter Grundmann, who led a scholarly and well-supported movement in Germany in the Weimar and NSDAP era (and afterwards) to make the separation that Jefferson alluded to: to explicate a Jesus separated from the matrix of “Jewish ethics” and their “imperfect state” to one that more closely resonated with what the German people felt appropriate for their culture.

    For that thought crime, Susannah Heschel, a professed and ardent zionist Jew, excoriated Grundmann and the movement he headed in Germany. The quest for an “Aryan Jesus” was labeled — wait for it — antisemitic. The German people were not to be permitted to define their own religious beliefs.
    Jefferson’s beliefs and a version of Christianity that follows his path are being erased from the American landscape in a more subtle but no less systematic way, in preference for Jewish perceptions of god and religion that Jefferson considered

    “degrading and injurious. . . .
    Their Ethics . . . not only imperfect, but often irreconcilable with the sound dictates of reason and morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us; and repulsive and anti-social, as respecting other nations.”


    Here’s another project for you Jacues Sheete, after the Plutarch’s Lives comparison of Churchill and Hitler is put to bed:

    What would the USA look like today if Thomas Jefferson’s version of The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth had been distributed as widely as, say, the Oxford Bible, or the Gideon Bible, or the Scofield Bible?

    What if, instead of evangelicalism or fundamentalism, Jeffersonian Christianity had caught hold and dominated the American religious landscape?

    What if the presidents took their oaths on the Jefferson Bible?

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    SolontoCroesus, thank you for the beautifully erudite and heartfelt story of Jefferson Bible.
    , @Art
    S2C,

    Great comment!

    Here is a new interesting book on Jefferson.

    “Most Blessed of the Patriarchs” – Thomas Jefferson and the Empire of the Imagination

    By Annette Gordon-Reed and Peter S. Onuf --- She a black woman and he a white male college professor. This unlikely duo really know their subject. They do a good job of explaining Jefferson in his time. They write of his personal and political life, and his brand of philosophical Christianity.

    They were on Cspan2 Book TV – you can find it on the web.

    Art

    p.s. I have a new appreciation of Jefferson.
  128. @olde reb
    David Talbot described in DEVILS CHESSBOARD how the CIA was created with the financial assistance of Wall Street to thwart the actions of government. Presidents who have been obstructive of CIA war-mongering have been punished; presidents who have promoted CIA war-mongering have been rewarded.

    It is submitted Wall Street is responsible, using the CIA and the US military, to initiate and maintain war-mongering throughout the world. Ref. KILLING HOPE by William Blum; CONFESSIONS OF ECONOMIC HIT MAN by John Perkins. They obtain funding for their operation by the Federal Reserve embezzling from the US government.

    Consider the theorized hidden owners of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve are embezzling $5-6 Billion daily from the government. They have successfully operated the scheme for 100 years.

    The Federal Reserve system is embezzling the money using the FRBNY's exclusive control of disbursements of the auction accounts of Treasury securities. Ref. 31 CFR 375.3. The flow of funds generated by the auction accounts have no viable alternate destination. Ref. http://www.scribd.com/doc/48194264/rip-off-by-the-Fein deral-Reserve-revised.


    The evidence that the Federal Reserve is embezzling using the above accounting scam is in plain sight for those who wish to see it: (Actually, the scheme was identified by a professor to my graduate course of Money and Banking.)

    ONE: The FRBNY will only establish a line of credit for the government (book entry money) when they receive a Treasury security in the amount of the line of credit.

    TWO: The deficit security is sold as a small percentage on the auctioned roll-over securitiies. The FRBNY handles all of the accounts and disbursements. Ref. 31 CFR 375.3. The accounts are client accounts (not operational accounts) and have never been audited. Audits os the FR are conducted according to guidelines established by the BOG.

    THREE: Funds from auctioning the deficit security issues (currently $2 trillion annually, $6 billion daily) cannot go to the government. If they did, they would have to buy the securities just issued since no other securities have been purchased. Under those circumstances, there would be no increase in the money in circulation (inflation) nor would there be any increase in the national debt. The money from the auction must go somewhere but it cannot go to the government.

    FOUR: The only feasible destination for the funds is to members of the Primary Dealers who are tasked with collecting called and redeemed Treasury securities. As hidden owners of the corporate Board of Governors (privately owned corporations are not required to file records with the SEC), they can receive deficit spending profit along with funds for the roll-over security work. The owners have put up no consideration for receiving $6 billion daily, even thou it is touted as a loan. (If the non-existing loan was being paid off by the hidden money, it would then result is eliminating any increase in the National Debt.) (The operation of the BOG readily lends itself to a corporate structure; the FR System does not.)

    FIVE: Profit of the Federal Reserve legally belongs to the government.

    It is assumed the same profitable scam has been set up with the Euro with each nation pledging to guarantee payment on the securities sold by the ECB. The money from the sale of the securities is theorized, based upon the Federal Reserve documented scheme, to go to the controllers/owners of the ECB. Money from the above operations are theorized to fund the New World Order scheme. Ref.
    https://www.scribd.com/document/115919607/FUNDING-THE-NEW-WORLD-ORDER.

    Your “Prof” from the Money and Banking, must have had a class full of “olde rebs” with eyes and ears wide shut to receive and revel in economic titillation.

    What you have just attempted to do [by re-directing to an "official" looking scribd page] is a pathetic exercise to explain the process of seignorage.

    Olde reb, go and read the mishneh Torah instead.

    [Also this comments section is not meant for this subject; let's find an appropriate one and I'll gladly filet your position]

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  129. @Anonymous
    @Philip Girardi

    RC?

    He fits the bill as working for the B's and C.

    hmmmm

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  130. @SolontoCroesus

    The US presidents take their oaths on Bible – don’t they?
     
    Thomas Jefferson studied the Bible as well as other systems of morality (i.e. the Greek philosophers) comparatively and carefully.

    In 1803 Jefferson wrote to his friend, Dr. Benjamin Rush:

    To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed opposed, but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others, ascribing to himself every human excellence, and believing he never claimed any other.
     
    In his correspondence with Rush he alluded to his Syllabus --

    an Estimate of the Merit of the Doctrines of Jesus, Compared with Those of Others; more precisely, Jesus compared to the philosophers and to Jews.

    Of the latter he wrote:

    II. Jews.
    1. Their system was Deism; that is, the belief in one only God. But their ideas of him and of his attributes were degrading and injurious.
    2. Their Ethics were not only imperfect, but often irreconcilable with the sound dictates of reason and morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us; and repulsive and anti-social, as respecting other nations. They needed reformation, therefore, in an eminent degree.
    . . .
    III. Jesus.
    In this state of things among the Jews, Jesus appeared. His parentage was obscure; his condition poor; his education null; his natural endowments great; his life correct and innocent: he was meek, benevolent, patient, firm, disinterested, and of the sublimest eloquence.
     
    ("His parentage being obscure," I speculate that it is as likely that his father was Mithraic, or Zoroastrian, or Roman, as any other line of descent, but that it is almost impossible to believe that Jesus was not conversant with the concepts of Mithraism and of Zoroaster.)

    Jefferson composed, rather, de-constructed the New Testament, removing from it items such as miracles that did not seem to fit Jefferson's idea of how a natural man of "every human excellence" would behave. The product was the so-called Jefferson Bible, or The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth.

    My copy of The Life and Morals still includes an introduction by a member of the Church family (they of the Frank Church Committee). Under their sponsorship, each new member of Congress (?? or Senate, I forget which, or both) was presented with a copy of The Jefferson Bible as he/she began his career as a U.S. legislator.
    That tradition continued for many years but was discontinued in about the Clinton era.

    imo, Thomas Jefferson was part of that quest to find the human Jesus that was pursued by several of his contemporaries in Europe, and also by Walter Grundmann, who led a scholarly and well-supported movement in Germany in the Weimar and NSDAP era (and afterwards) to make the separation that Jefferson alluded to: to explicate a Jesus separated from the matrix of "Jewish ethics" and their "imperfect state" to one that more closely resonated with what the German people felt appropriate for their culture.

    For that thought crime, Susannah Heschel, a professed and ardent zionist Jew, excoriated Grundmann and the movement he headed in Germany. The quest for an "Aryan Jesus" was labeled -- wait for it -- antisemitic. The German people were not to be permitted to define their own religious beliefs.
    Jefferson's beliefs and a version of Christianity that follows his path are being erased from the American landscape in a more subtle but no less systematic way, in preference for Jewish perceptions of god and religion that Jefferson considered

    "degrading and injurious. . . .
    Their Ethics . . . not only imperfect, but often irreconcilable with the sound dictates of reason and morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us; and repulsive and anti-social, as respecting other nations."


    ---
    Here's another project for you Jacues Sheete, after the Plutarch's Lives comparison of Churchill and Hitler is put to bed:

    What would the USA look like today if Thomas Jefferson's version of The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth had been distributed as widely as, say, the Oxford Bible, or the Gideon Bible, or the Scofield Bible?

    What if, instead of evangelicalism or fundamentalism, Jeffersonian Christianity had caught hold and dominated the American religious landscape?

    What if the presidents took their oaths on the Jefferson Bible?

    SolontoCroesus, thank you for the beautifully erudite and heartfelt story of Jefferson Bible.

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    @annamaria
    The US presidents take their oaths on Bible - don't they?

    "Monica wars" by Clinton - the terrorist destruction of Serbia and making 500.000 children dead in Iraq "worth it" (according to the Jewish/Catholic M. Albright).
    There have been extra judicial killings (terrorist acts) and renditions, as well as "enhanced interrogations" (torture), practiced by the Christian nation of US.
    Bush-the-lesser (the first Methodist president) abhorred diplomacy. Bush started the illegal war-for-oil in Iraq and the previously functioning state of Iraq became the world capital of terrorism.
    Bush' wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the Obamas' subhuman interventions in Libya and Syria have resulted in 4 mln violent deaths, mostly civilians, in the Middle East. The US-wrought deaths and destruction have radicalized Middle East populations and produced ISIS; competent brass in the US warned about the inevitable radicalization, but radicalization was exactly the goal of the war profiteers in high places in the US/Israel. ISIS is armed with the US-made weaponry and ISIS terrorists have been treated by Israeli medics.

    Lets look at Christian Ukraine: in 2014 the US State Dept. came to town - and voila! - a civil war ensued and 10.000 Ukrainians died (up to date). The US used a combo of local oligarchs and neo-Nazis to generate Ukrainian state terrorism against civilians asking for federalization of east Ukraine (for a federal government, like in the US). http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/04/hitlers-birthday-us-begin-openly-training-neo-nazi-integrated-forces-ukraine.html

    If you still want to talk about the times of Muslim pirates, you should know that the pirates were no match to the Christian conquistadors that came to the Americas to kill and rob the native human populations. Check the numbers: "a population decline ratio of 58:1 during the years of 1520–1571."
    There is also Mossad (very skillful in extrajudicial killings) and the terrorist operation Gladio, "a NATO-backed network of armed soldiers inside the nations of Europe outside effective control of national governments. Ostensibly intended for use only in case of a Soviet invasion, Gladio carried out a string of false flag terror attacks. In 1990, the European parliament asked all member states to launch investigations, but only 5 national governments did so." https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio

    so you cannot name any christian terrorists. at least you can set up straw men.

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    And here is a closer-in-time terrorist operation Gladio, "a NATO-backed network of armed soldiers inside the nations of Europe outside effective control of national governments. Ostensibly intended for use only in case of a Soviet invasion, Gladio carried out a string of false flag terror attacks. In 1990, the European parliament asked all member states to launch investigations, but only 5 national governments did so." https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio
    Who is in charge of NATO? - the exceptional Christian country of the US.

    At least one of the Gladio operatives, M. Ledeen, is a well-known advisor to the US deciders: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4081269
    Ledeed had been providing important guidance for initiating the Iraq War. Iraq was not connected to 9/11, but after the US aggression Iraq has become a world leading center of terrorism.
  132. […] Source: Are the Clintons Israeli Agents? – The Unz Review […]

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  133. Are the Clintons Israeli Agents? … Yes.

    The Clinton’s are beholden to ((( Wall Street))) for elevating them from the outback of Arkansas to their very, very, very profitable migration to first Washington DC and then Wall Street. Wall Street protects Israel and the Clinton’s are owned by Wall Street.

    Forever calculating …. There is also a long-standing tradition exemplified by the Rothschilds of Europe of allowing select goyim to marry into the world-wide Jewish network as a badge of membership and trust. Chelsea’s marriage to Marc Mezvinsky can be understood on those terms.

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  134. You have missed this name in my post: G. W. Bush, the first Methodist president.
    Here are more:
    Hillary R.. Clinton, a Methodist
    Dick Cheney, a member of the United Methodist Church and the first Methodist vice president
    Condi Rice says “her faith in Christ is at the core of her identity.”
    Donald Rumsfeld is a “solid, observant” Christian.

    All above individuals have been connected to procurement of oil in the Middle East. None of them has any regreets about tortures and extra-judicial renditions committed on their orders, and all of them are quite content with the number of deaths in the Middle East – the result of their criminal enterprise based on lies. Add to the casualties of wars (4 mln, of all ages) the maimed and killed US soldiers that were sent to the Middle East to protect Big Oil interests and to please Israel. None of the above mentioned “solid, observant Christians” sent their children to fight for oil in the Middle East.

    You could find the names of Spanish conquistadors on the Internet.

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  135. @anon
    so you cannot name any christian terrorists. at least you can set up straw men.

    And here is a closer-in-time terrorist operation Gladio, “a NATO-backed network of armed soldiers inside the nations of Europe outside effective control of national governments. Ostensibly intended for use only in case of a Soviet invasion, Gladio carried out a string of false flag terror attacks. In 1990, the European parliament asked all member states to launch investigations, but only 5 national governments did so.” https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio
    Who is in charge of NATO? – the exceptional Christian country of the US.

    At least one of the Gladio operatives, M. Ledeen, is a well-known advisor to the US deciders: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104×4081269
    Ledeed had been providing important guidance for initiating the Iraq War. Iraq was not connected to 9/11, but after the US aggression Iraq has become a world leading center of terrorism.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    {And here is a closer-in-time terrorist operation Gladio...}

    So how is Gladio a, quote, "white supremacist terrorist"?

    The question was posed to name ""white supremacist terrorists": terror and terrorism by Government does qualify.
    Name an individual like Muslim Nidal Malik Hasan, and ingrate IslamoFascist, whose Muslim parents were given shelter in Christian America, and who thanked America by murdering his Army colleagues.

    Again, you two: don't blow smoke.
    Give us a "white supremacist terrorist": an individual. OK?

    btw: Michael Arthur Ledeen, is of Jewish ancestry.
  136. @SolontoCroesus

    The US presidents take their oaths on Bible – don’t they?
     
    Thomas Jefferson studied the Bible as well as other systems of morality (i.e. the Greek philosophers) comparatively and carefully.

    In 1803 Jefferson wrote to his friend, Dr. Benjamin Rush:

    To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed opposed, but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others, ascribing to himself every human excellence, and believing he never claimed any other.
     
    In his correspondence with Rush he alluded to his Syllabus --

    an Estimate of the Merit of the Doctrines of Jesus, Compared with Those of Others; more precisely, Jesus compared to the philosophers and to Jews.

    Of the latter he wrote:

    II. Jews.
    1. Their system was Deism; that is, the belief in one only God. But their ideas of him and of his attributes were degrading and injurious.
    2. Their Ethics were not only imperfect, but often irreconcilable with the sound dictates of reason and morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us; and repulsive and anti-social, as respecting other nations. They needed reformation, therefore, in an eminent degree.
    . . .
    III. Jesus.
    In this state of things among the Jews, Jesus appeared. His parentage was obscure; his condition poor; his education null; his natural endowments great; his life correct and innocent: he was meek, benevolent, patient, firm, disinterested, and of the sublimest eloquence.
     
    ("His parentage being obscure," I speculate that it is as likely that his father was Mithraic, or Zoroastrian, or Roman, as any other line of descent, but that it is almost impossible to believe that Jesus was not conversant with the concepts of Mithraism and of Zoroaster.)

    Jefferson composed, rather, de-constructed the New Testament, removing from it items such as miracles that did not seem to fit Jefferson's idea of how a natural man of "every human excellence" would behave. The product was the so-called Jefferson Bible, or The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth.

    My copy of The Life and Morals still includes an introduction by a member of the Church family (they of the Frank Church Committee). Under their sponsorship, each new member of Congress (?? or Senate, I forget which, or both) was presented with a copy of The Jefferson Bible as he/she began his career as a U.S. legislator.
    That tradition continued for many years but was discontinued in about the Clinton era.

    imo, Thomas Jefferson was part of that quest to find the human Jesus that was pursued by several of his contemporaries in Europe, and also by Walter Grundmann, who led a scholarly and well-supported movement in Germany in the Weimar and NSDAP era (and afterwards) to make the separation that Jefferson alluded to: to explicate a Jesus separated from the matrix of "Jewish ethics" and their "imperfect state" to one that more closely resonated with what the German people felt appropriate for their culture.

    For that thought crime, Susannah Heschel, a professed and ardent zionist Jew, excoriated Grundmann and the movement he headed in Germany. The quest for an "Aryan Jesus" was labeled -- wait for it -- antisemitic. The German people were not to be permitted to define their own religious beliefs.
    Jefferson's beliefs and a version of Christianity that follows his path are being erased from the American landscape in a more subtle but no less systematic way, in preference for Jewish perceptions of god and religion that Jefferson considered

    "degrading and injurious. . . .
    Their Ethics . . . not only imperfect, but often irreconcilable with the sound dictates of reason and morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us; and repulsive and anti-social, as respecting other nations."


    ---
    Here's another project for you Jacues Sheete, after the Plutarch's Lives comparison of Churchill and Hitler is put to bed:

    What would the USA look like today if Thomas Jefferson's version of The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth had been distributed as widely as, say, the Oxford Bible, or the Gideon Bible, or the Scofield Bible?

    What if, instead of evangelicalism or fundamentalism, Jeffersonian Christianity had caught hold and dominated the American religious landscape?

    What if the presidents took their oaths on the Jefferson Bible?

    S2C,

    Great comment!

    Here is a new interesting book on Jefferson.

    “Most Blessed of the Patriarchs” – Thomas Jefferson and the Empire of the Imagination

    By Annette Gordon-Reed and Peter S. Onuf — She a black woman and he a white male college professor. This unlikely duo really know their subject. They do a good job of explaining Jefferson in his time. They write of his personal and political life, and his brand of philosophical Christianity.

    They were on Cspan2 Book TV – you can find it on the web.

    Art

    p.s. I have a new appreciation of Jefferson.

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  137. @annamaria
    And here is a closer-in-time terrorist operation Gladio, "a NATO-backed network of armed soldiers inside the nations of Europe outside effective control of national governments. Ostensibly intended for use only in case of a Soviet invasion, Gladio carried out a string of false flag terror attacks. In 1990, the European parliament asked all member states to launch investigations, but only 5 national governments did so." https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio
    Who is in charge of NATO? - the exceptional Christian country of the US.

    At least one of the Gladio operatives, M. Ledeen, is a well-known advisor to the US deciders: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4081269
    Ledeed had been providing important guidance for initiating the Iraq War. Iraq was not connected to 9/11, but after the US aggression Iraq has become a world leading center of terrorism.

    {And here is a closer-in-time terrorist operation Gladio…}

    So how is Gladio a, quote, “white supremacist terrorist”?

    The question was posed to name “”white supremacist terrorists”: terror and terrorism by Government does qualify.
    Name an individual like Muslim Nidal Malik Hasan, and ingrate IslamoFascist, whose Muslim parents were given shelter in Christian America, and who thanked America by murdering his Army colleagues.

    Again, you two: don’t blow smoke.
    Give us a “white supremacist terrorist”: an individual. OK?

    btw: Michael Arthur Ledeen, is of Jewish ancestry.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    correction: {terror and terrorism by Government does not qualify.}
    , @annamaria
    "Name an individual ..." - Make your own research in small fish.
    Agree with you that "terror and terrorism by Government do qualify" as terrorism.

    You are right about Ledeen. - What about NATO at large?
  138. @Avery
    {And here is a closer-in-time terrorist operation Gladio...}

    So how is Gladio a, quote, "white supremacist terrorist"?

    The question was posed to name ""white supremacist terrorists": terror and terrorism by Government does qualify.
    Name an individual like Muslim Nidal Malik Hasan, and ingrate IslamoFascist, whose Muslim parents were given shelter in Christian America, and who thanked America by murdering his Army colleagues.

    Again, you two: don't blow smoke.
    Give us a "white supremacist terrorist": an individual. OK?

    btw: Michael Arthur Ledeen, is of Jewish ancestry.

    correction: {terror and terrorism by Government does not qualify.}

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  139. @Avery
    {And here is a closer-in-time terrorist operation Gladio...}

    So how is Gladio a, quote, "white supremacist terrorist"?

    The question was posed to name ""white supremacist terrorists": terror and terrorism by Government does qualify.
    Name an individual like Muslim Nidal Malik Hasan, and ingrate IslamoFascist, whose Muslim parents were given shelter in Christian America, and who thanked America by murdering his Army colleagues.

    Again, you two: don't blow smoke.
    Give us a "white supremacist terrorist": an individual. OK?

    btw: Michael Arthur Ledeen, is of Jewish ancestry.

    “Name an individual …” – Make your own research in small fish.
    Agree with you that “terror and terrorism by Government do qualify” as terrorism.

    You are right about Ledeen. – What about NATO at large?

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    • Replies: @Avery
    {“Name an individual …” – Make your own research in small fish.}

    Again, you made up a lie about alleged ”white supremacist terrorists” (vs Islamist terrorists) and when challenged you run and hide.

    "– Make your own research in small fish." means you have nothing, as usual.

    {Agree with you that “terror and terrorism by Government do qualify” as terrorism.}

    See #151: it was typo. Gov.....do not qualify, for your false assertion of (individual) ”white supremacist terrorists” vs (individual) Islamist terrorists.

  140. “And there are many more: Chuck Schumer, Chuck Grassley, Ben Cardin…”

    Chuck ‘Ethanol’ Grassley? Senator, farmer, former factory worker and teacher? Who seems to have a very tidy pile ($10,000,000±) after 41 years in public service?

    He’s best known as the bane of the ‘public option’ (along with deciding vote Joe Lieberman). Thank God – we wouldn’t want to be like those decadent socialist nations in Europe. Some may wonder what he thinks when he cashes his checks for Social Security, corn crops going into Ethanol, and farm insurance/subsidies. But he’s pure. Israel? Sure , he signed Tom ’Israel’ Cotton’s Iran letter – who in the GOP didn’t?

    Politics, like farming, needs a lot of manure to be really productive.

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    • Replies: @alexander
    Yes , Incitatus,

    LOTS of manure,

    especially when the crops of fraud they are sowing reaps perpetual war ,death, insolvency, and the dissolution of our freedoms.

    Hillary WILL BE shoe-ed in, because she alone will guarantee nobody will be held to account for the catastrophe's they have wrought.
  141. What’s the big deal? Hillary will make a fine POTUS. She’s long experience in doublespeak, thought conformance, donor amenity, discrete Wall Street accommodation, greasing the skids, and (most important) maintaining the perpetual war we’ve all come to love (esp. the defense industry). And she’s always for sale (what could be better?). The Lincoln bedroom’s a wasting.

    Skeptics complain about Hill’s brave stance on Libya and a Syrian no-fly-zone, let alone her hawkish attitude on Russia. They forget we’ve got to justify epochal projects like the (still dysfunctional) F-35, nuclear sub fleet renewal, Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carriers, Zumwalt-class destroyers, and B-3 bomber. It takes a village, after all.

    OK, say Trump wins. Will there be any difference? Don’s signature issue is illegal immigration. As some may have noticed, he’s shifted over the past few days. Not unlike his epiphany on Mideast neutrality, which suddenly turned into unconditional support at AIPAC. Five deferments (like Cheney), four bankruptcies, three wives? Are you kidding?

    Donald is hard to scrip. Hillary is decidedly better.

    Historical precedence? Livia Drusilla, wife of Emperor Augustus. Adept at palace intrigue, dynastic defense and self perpetuation. And – look forward to this – proclaimed Augustae and renamed Julia Augusta, then deified as a goddess in AD 42 (it helped expunge many sins).

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    • Replies: @Christinne
    Take ur meds. Seriously. The criminal system is proud of sheeple like u. U deserve ur fate.
  142. [Historical precedence? Livia Drusilla, wife of Emperor Augustus. Adept at palace intrigue, dynastic defense and self perpetuation. And – look forward to this – proclaimed Augustae and renamed Julia Augusta, then deified as a goddess in AD 42 (it helped expunge many sins).]

    LOL. Good one. Although she hadn’t had a poor T. Claudius dumped on Bill’s directive. But who knows…..

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  143. a Syrian no-fly-zone,

    Hill’s pal Joe (Biden) is helping her out on this one:

    Syrian rebels backed by Turkish troops and tanks recaptured the Islamic State’s last major stronghold on the Syrian-Turkish border on Wednesday, inflicting yet another defeat on the militants rapidly dwindling “caliphate.” By late afternoon, rebel fighters and Turkish officials said the rebels had reached the center of Jarabulus after encountering almost no resistance from Islamic State fighters, who appeared to have fled ahead of the advancing forces.
    . . .
    The offensive was spearheaded by Turkey, which sent tanks, troops and warplanes into Syria . . .[and] also includes U.S. advisers, who are advising the operation from inside Turkey, while American surveillance aircraft are providing overflight intelligence . . .

    The offensive against Islamic State fighters in Jarabulus, along the Euphrates River, began just hours before Biden arrived on a mission to repair the eroding U.S.-Turkey relationship, which is considered crucial to the ongoing battle against the Islamic State. . . .

    U.S. Vice President Joe Biden is calling on Syrian Kurdish forces to move back across the Euphrates River, telling them they will lose U.S. support if they don’t. [shades of "rise up against Saddam, oh ye Kurds!]

    Not too many days earlier, for a brief period Russia used Iranian air fields to launch attacks in Syria.

    Some questioned whether Russia’s actions violated U N Sanctions on Iran

    In any event, that activity seems to have halted; moreover, “Iranian General Hossein Hamadani was killed last night near Aleppo.
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/isil-kills-top-iranian-commander-syria-151009074246576.html ” (h/t ex-PFC Chuck @ SicSemperTyrannis) .

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  144. @Sam Shama
    [Historical precedence? Livia Drusilla, wife of Emperor Augustus. Adept at palace intrigue, dynastic defense and self perpetuation. And – look forward to this – proclaimed Augustae and renamed Julia Augusta, then deified as a goddess in AD 42 (it helped expunge many sins).]

    LOL. Good one. Although she hadn't had a poor T. Claudius dumped on Bill's directive. But who knows.....

    Indeed, time will tell.

    Welcome back Sam.

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    Thanks Incitatus. btw it may not have crossed your screen, but Joseph Goebbels is in the process of receiving a much needed facelift elsewhere:

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/a-crooked-mile/#comment-1541788
  145. @Incitatus
    Indeed, time will tell.

    Welcome back Sam.

    Thanks Incitatus. btw it may not have crossed your screen, but Joseph Goebbels is in the process of receiving a much needed facelift elsewhere:

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/a-crooked-mile/#comment-1541788

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    • Replies: @Incitatus
    Ah, the ever present, efflorescent S2C! Propping up Göbbels (it’s about time!) with Art in tow, no less.

    One need not worry about clubfoot nordic hero Joseph’s assignation of the killing of their six children to his wife Magda. I’m sure there’s a helpful paradigm in Wagner somewhere.

    I still think (with great admiration) S2C is a mole.

    After 9/11 I remember reading about a new website proposed by John Poindexter, convicted co-felon of Ollie North in Iran-Contra (reversed by the pliable GOP Judge Laurence Silberman). It would take bets on future terrorist targets, something like Ladbrokes, and surface potential terrorists in the bargain. DARPA apparently passed (I’ve not heard of it since). It occurs to me, from time to time, that web based commentary may be monitored for more than insuring free speech.

    I regret my limited time reading Unz. Then again, I can only spend so much time on Planet Germania. With true believers (moles?) like S2C, would it matter?
  146. @Sam Shama
    Thanks Incitatus. btw it may not have crossed your screen, but Joseph Goebbels is in the process of receiving a much needed facelift elsewhere:

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/a-crooked-mile/#comment-1541788

    Ah, the ever present, efflorescent S2C! Propping up Göbbels (it’s about time!) with Art in tow, no less.

    One need not worry about clubfoot nordic hero Joseph’s assignation of the killing of their six children to his wife Magda. I’m sure there’s a helpful paradigm in Wagner somewhere.

    I still think (with great admiration) S2C is a mole.

    After 9/11 I remember reading about a new website proposed by John Poindexter, convicted co-felon of Ollie North in Iran-Contra (reversed by the pliable GOP Judge Laurence Silberman). It would take bets on future terrorist targets, something like Ladbrokes, and surface potential terrorists in the bargain. DARPA apparently passed (I’ve not heard of it since). It occurs to me, from time to time, that web based commentary may be monitored for more than insuring free speech.

    I regret my limited time reading Unz. Then again, I can only spend so much time on Planet Germania. With true believers (moles?) like S2C, would it matter?

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    • Replies: @Art
    Ah, the ever present, efflorescent S2C! Propping up Göbbels (it’s about time!) with Art in tow, no less.

    S2C was commenting about the lie that you Jews tell about Gobbels inventing "state big lie propaganda" - when in fact Gobbels was copying someone else.

    How funny - the absolute "masters at propaganda" giving credit to someone else.

    In our culture, whenever some media propagated idea is 100% wrong - you first look to the Jews as the reason.

    Please please tell us that you are not a propagator of the Six Million Lie.

    If you do - then you have zero credibility and no standing to complain about anything S2C says.

    p.s. I saw some dunderhead on FOX JEWS tonight say the Six Million Lie – he almost chocked on the words – his subconscious body actually rebelled at the lie.

    , @Sam Shama
    I started reading Shirer; at about 10% of the way through now, and even at this early stage it is clear from his candid, objective and extensively referenced opus, among Hitler's top cronies, the SA, the SS, etc., perverts, criminals and mentally unbalanced elements featured rather more numerously than what one would expect in an ordinary political enterprise.

    Since it was written only about a decade following the fall of the Third Reich, hence by convention vulnerable to the charge of being unripe, i.e. lacking in ample perspective [historians I believe prefer a 50 year wait], the solicitude is amply addressed by Shirer. He reasons: that in the case of the Third Reich, the documentation proving so meticulous, extensive, and verifiable, the issue of a paucity of perspective is moot, and indeed eclipsed by the counter concern, that of time diluting the cogency and import of living testimonies.

    I reckon I've set a fair pace and expect to finish the book in 60 hours, at which point I hope to engage with you and some of the discernibly talented history buffs on this fascinating topic.

  147. @Philip Giraldi
    It's not RE

    Is MEGA still alive?

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    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    I already answered that - yes, he appears on TV and also at conferences
    , @AmericaFirstNow
    Again the Israel 1st traitor to America suspected of being MEGA is mentioned in the following piece by Jeffrey Steinberg:

    http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html
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    Great article very well written, thank you.
    Its time to hang these traitors.

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  149. @Incitatus
    Ah, the ever present, efflorescent S2C! Propping up Göbbels (it’s about time!) with Art in tow, no less.

    One need not worry about clubfoot nordic hero Joseph’s assignation of the killing of their six children to his wife Magda. I’m sure there’s a helpful paradigm in Wagner somewhere.

    I still think (with great admiration) S2C is a mole.

    After 9/11 I remember reading about a new website proposed by John Poindexter, convicted co-felon of Ollie North in Iran-Contra (reversed by the pliable GOP Judge Laurence Silberman). It would take bets on future terrorist targets, something like Ladbrokes, and surface potential terrorists in the bargain. DARPA apparently passed (I’ve not heard of it since). It occurs to me, from time to time, that web based commentary may be monitored for more than insuring free speech.

    I regret my limited time reading Unz. Then again, I can only spend so much time on Planet Germania. With true believers (moles?) like S2C, would it matter?

    Ah, the ever present, efflorescent S2C! Propping up Göbbels (it’s about time!) with Art in tow, no less.

    S2C was commenting about the lie that you Jews tell about Gobbels inventing “state big lie propaganda” – when in fact Gobbels was copying someone else.

    How funny – the absolute “masters at propaganda” giving credit to someone else.

    In our culture, whenever some media propagated idea is 100% wrong – you first look to the Jews as the reason.

    Please please tell us that you are not a propagator of the Six Million Lie.

    If you do – then you have zero credibility and no standing to complain about anything S2C says.

    p.s. I saw some dunderhead on FOX JEWS tonight say the Six Million Lie – he almost chocked on the words – his subconscious body actually rebelled at the lie.

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    • Replies: @Incitatus
    Art, I admire your tireless consistency. Jews, Jews everywhere! How uninteresting your life would be without Jews. But then, I suppose some other scapegoat could easily be found, hiding in similar true conspiracies.

    “Please please tell us that you are not a propagator of the Six Million Lie.”
     
    I don’t have to be. Listen to Alfred Rosenberg (rival of Göbbels btw):

    “Some six million Jews still live in the East, and this question can only be solved by a biological extermination of the whole of Jewry in Europe. The Jewish Question will only be solved for Germany when the last Jew has left German territory, and for Europe when not a single Jew stands on the European continent as far as the Urals... And to this end it is necessary to force them beyond the Urals or otherwise bring about their eradication.”
    -Alfred Rosenberg, Reichsministerium für die besetzten Ostgebiete Reich (Minister for the Occupied Eastern Territories 1941-45) 1941

    Do you doubt Rosenberg? Didn’t Übermenschen always do what they said they’d do?
    , @Incitatus
    Well, there’s no pleasing some people.

    Art, you wrote about “the Six Million Lie” (#162, #202), and I responded (#170, #204). I tried to be helpful in recounting the words of Reichsminister Albert Rosenberg (second only to Adolf as NSDAP philosopher). Did he lie, I asked? Don’t Aryans deliver on their promises of “eradication” I asked?

    Alas, you never responded.

    Well, last night we held a séance at Hasbara Central, and I’m sorry to report the Reichsminister is very unhappy with you. “Who are you to doubt the Meister Raße?” his shade shouted “A mongrel American? Make no mistake, we do what we say we’ll do.” Unfortunately the rest of the interview didn’t go well. He thinks you should try writing ‘JEWS, JEWS, JEWS’ in all caps, and much more often. You’ll have to try harder.

    He also wanted to make sure you mopped the spittle from your lips regularly as you’re writing (he had some unfortunate experiences in that regard).

    BTW, he thought your posing as ‘Christinne’ (#193, #194) was a good try, but unworthy of an übermensch even if you’re a mutt (you’re not a Nazi hermaphrodite, are you?).

    Remember, all caps and much, much, much more often.
    , @Sam Shama
    Neglected to suggest, perhaps you might ask S2C to go lightly on the Pork and Beans as well during your communal feasts. Similar concerns.

    Also, on that seance Incitatus mentioned earlier, you must remember to thank him. He was advocating better treatment for you, an American mongrel, pointing out that you share something common with Herr Rosenberg who was rejected on his first attempt to join the Aryan army on account of his possible Russian ancestry. Rosenberg conceded a remedy for you; that you capitalise the JEW, exactly as Incitatus informed.

  150. @polistra
    The Deep State has been serving both Israel and Saudi interests for a long time. The Clintons are nothing special in that department. What makes the Clintons unusual is their firm devotion to China. Other Deepstaters seem to be ambiguous or pragmatic about China.

    What makes the Clintons unusual is their firm devotion to China

    Eh? Wasn’t it from Hillary’s Bag of Good Green Ideas that emerged the “Pivot to Asia” (i.e. make sure China doesn’t get too uppity in our Pacific)?

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  151. Mossad agent Marc Rich

    This is the first time I hear about this.

    Wasn’t he just “involved with” Mossad (i.e. handing out favors, one would imagine for good infodumps to further his business).

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    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    He did favors for mossad like providing their officers cover and assisting in their operations - that is what an agent does
  152. @MInnesota Mary
    Is MEGA still alive?

    I already answered that – yes, he appears on TV and also at conferences

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    Sorry, I forgot that you indicated he was still alive. Is MEGA's middle initial "A" and was he born in 1950?
  153. @El Dato

    Mossad agent Marc Rich
     
    This is the first time I hear about this.

    Wasn't he just "involved with" Mossad (i.e. handing out favors, one would imagine for good infodumps to further his business).

    He did favors for mossad like providing their officers cover and assisting in their operations – that is what an agent does

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    Phil, are you going to see

    PENCE in PURCELLVILLE tomorrow?

    I think he's speaking about 3pm.
  154. @Alden
    One reason Americans came to hate Soviet Russia is because of the Russians who fled the Soviet murderers

    San Francisco got 3 waves, the first in 1918 to about 1935 were Russians who fled east and got to the coast of Chiba and thence to San Francisco. 1948 to mid 50's Russians who stopped in China and fled to San Francisco after the communists took over China. Then in mid 1970s another group that is still coming.
    All over the Midwest and east coast there communities of Poles, Hungarians, Germans, Serbs, Bulgarians, Chezch, Slovenes and Slovaks who fled the unspeakable horrors of the communist Russian takeover of their countries after WWW2.
    These people are spread all over the country. I'm visiting relatives who live a few blocks to a beautiful Russian orthodox cathedral built by the 1918 to mid 30s refugees. Chicago has a huge Polish refugee community. Ohio and the Midwest is full of E Europeans whose grand parents fled after WW2.
    People talk to their neighbors and wonder why there is a Russian cathedral or signs in Polish or Hungarian all over the neighborhood and learn about the joys of Russian communist domination.

    Russia did not help us a bit in the Revolution. Spain helped us a lot by sending its navy to roam about India and the Caribbean. This forced the British to keep its troops in those colonies Spain also informed England that any attempt to send troops to New Orleans, Mobile, Florida and other Spanish territories would result in war Prussia and Austria helped by informing the British that they intended to stay neutral as did the Scandinavian countries.

    The Russian navy was basically a Baltic Sea coast guard. Look at the map. Just a few British ships could prevent the Russian coast guard from getting out of the Baktuc into the North Sea.

    France helped with millions of dollars, most of the armaments and thousands of soldiers and the diplomatic expertise to make Spain a non combat ally and the rest of Europe neutral.

    Russia gave us no help at all in the re pluton. We didn't even get a trade treaty until 1832 decades after we signed treaties with the rest of Europe.

    > in spite of the fact that ten Palestinians are killed for each Jewish victim

    is the ratio is that low? don’t worry, Lieberman will fix that disgrace

    > Prussia and Austria helped by informing the British that they intended to stay neutral as did the Scandinavian countries

    In our neck of the woods, that’s called: wants to sell bullets to ANY cash customer

    > Chelsea’s marriage to Marc Mezvinsky can be understood on those terms.

    His mom wasn’t happy, actually. His dada said she does look pretty good since the nose job and malar implants.

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  155. @annamaria
    "Name an individual ..." - Make your own research in small fish.
    Agree with you that "terror and terrorism by Government do qualify" as terrorism.

    You are right about Ledeen. - What about NATO at large?

    {“Name an individual …” – Make your own research in small fish.}

    Again, you made up a lie about alleged ”white supremacist terrorists” (vs Islamist terrorists) and when challenged you run and hide.

    “– Make your own research in small fish.” means you have nothing, as usual.

    {Agree with you that “terror and terrorism by Government do qualify” as terrorism.}

    See #151: it was typo. Gov…..do not qualify, for your false assertion of (individual) ”white supremacist terrorists” vs (individual) Islamist terrorists.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    I had no intention to follow your limited definition of "white supremacist terrorists" and I never used this definition in my posts. Moreover, I state quite clearly that the only differentiation that I made between people of different creeds is bad people versus good people. If you want to whitewash your government, this is your problem. For the majority of intelligent people, that acts of indiscriminate mass killing of innocent civilians constitute terrorism.
    , @RobinG
    I'm the one who cited "white supremacist terrorists”. I don't have time to do more than give you an example.

    August 5, 2012: Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting: Six people were killed and three others were injured, including a police officer who was tending to victims at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. The gunman, 40-year-old Wade Michael Page, killed himself after being shot by police.[85] The shooting is being treated by authorities as an act of domestic terrorism.[86][87] While a motive has not been clearly defined, Page had been active in white supremacist groups.[
     
    Of course, Che Guano responded by moving the goal post (from incidents to casualties) and citing the big-ticket events, but even after 911, I wouldn't be surprised if Islamists are in the minority.
  156. @Incitatus
    “And there are many more: Chuck Schumer, Chuck Grassley, Ben Cardin...”

    Chuck ‘Ethanol’ Grassley? Senator, farmer, former factory worker and teacher? Who seems to have a very tidy pile ($10,000,000±) after 41 years in public service?

    He’s best known as the bane of the ‘public option’ (along with deciding vote Joe Lieberman). Thank God - we wouldn’t want to be like those decadent socialist nations in Europe. Some may wonder what he thinks when he cashes his checks for Social Security, corn crops going into Ethanol, and farm insurance/subsidies. But he’s pure. Israel? Sure , he signed Tom ’Israel’ Cotton’s Iran letter - who in the GOP didn’t?

    Politics, like farming, needs a lot of manure to be really productive.

    Yes , Incitatus,

    LOTS of manure,

    especially when the crops of fraud they are sowing reaps perpetual war ,death, insolvency, and the dissolution of our freedoms.

    Hillary WILL BE shoe-ed in, because she alone will guarantee nobody will be held to account for the catastrophe’s they have wrought.

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    alexander,

    I fear you’re right.

    Amazing what official blindness (e.g. Wall Street 2007-08) can be had with donations in the right quarters. Is it ‘Monopoly’ that's got the ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ card? We’ve advanced far beyond that in reality. I suppose it’s kind of like a political debit card. Now no one (of the ‘right sort’) is even indicted.
  157. @Art
    Ah, the ever present, efflorescent S2C! Propping up Göbbels (it’s about time!) with Art in tow, no less.

    S2C was commenting about the lie that you Jews tell about Gobbels inventing "state big lie propaganda" - when in fact Gobbels was copying someone else.

    How funny - the absolute "masters at propaganda" giving credit to someone else.

    In our culture, whenever some media propagated idea is 100% wrong - you first look to the Jews as the reason.

    Please please tell us that you are not a propagator of the Six Million Lie.

    If you do - then you have zero credibility and no standing to complain about anything S2C says.

    p.s. I saw some dunderhead on FOX JEWS tonight say the Six Million Lie – he almost chocked on the words – his subconscious body actually rebelled at the lie.

    Art, I admire your tireless consistency. Jews, Jews everywhere! How uninteresting your life would be without Jews. But then, I suppose some other scapegoat could easily be found, hiding in similar true conspiracies.

    “Please please tell us that you are not a propagator of the Six Million Lie.”

    I don’t have to be. Listen to Alfred Rosenberg (rival of Göbbels btw):

    “Some six million Jews still live in the East, and this question can only be solved by a biological extermination of the whole of Jewry in Europe. The Jewish Question will only be solved for Germany when the last Jew has left German territory, and for Europe when not a single Jew stands on the European continent as far as the Urals… And to this end it is necessary to force them beyond the Urals or otherwise bring about their eradication.”
    -Alfred Rosenberg, Reichsministerium für die besetzten Ostgebiete Reich (Minister for the Occupied Eastern Territories 1941-45) 1941

    Do you doubt Rosenberg? Didn’t Übermenschen always do what they said they’d do?

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    "How uninteresting your life would be without Jews. But then, I suppose some other scapegoat could easily be found...."

    Freemasons (not scapegoats, but malefactors) lurk in the wings. According to Estonian dissident Jüri Lina, the Bolsheviks, Communists, Wall St. bankers, almost everyone of any rank or power was (or is) a Freemason. Plenty of Jews included.

    Utu posted this on another thread, and I actually watched it. The archival photos and film clips are interesting, but Lina has a wild bias. No doubt the Bolshies were monsters, granted. However, Lina's depiction of comfortable, well-fed Jews in clean work camps is priceless. Look how great the Nazis were!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI
    In the Shadow of Hermes by Jüri Lina (2009)
  158. @Incitatus
    Ah, the ever present, efflorescent S2C! Propping up Göbbels (it’s about time!) with Art in tow, no less.

    One need not worry about clubfoot nordic hero Joseph’s assignation of the killing of their six children to his wife Magda. I’m sure there’s a helpful paradigm in Wagner somewhere.

    I still think (with great admiration) S2C is a mole.

    After 9/11 I remember reading about a new website proposed by John Poindexter, convicted co-felon of Ollie North in Iran-Contra (reversed by the pliable GOP Judge Laurence Silberman). It would take bets on future terrorist targets, something like Ladbrokes, and surface potential terrorists in the bargain. DARPA apparently passed (I’ve not heard of it since). It occurs to me, from time to time, that web based commentary may be monitored for more than insuring free speech.

    I regret my limited time reading Unz. Then again, I can only spend so much time on Planet Germania. With true believers (moles?) like S2C, would it matter?

    I started reading Shirer; at about 10% of the way through now, and even at this early stage it is clear from his candid, objective and extensively referenced opus, among Hitler’s top cronies, the SA, the SS, etc., perverts, criminals and mentally unbalanced elements featured rather more numerously than what one would expect in an ordinary political enterprise.

    Since it was written only about a decade following the fall of the Third Reich, hence by convention vulnerable to the charge of being unripe, i.e. lacking in ample perspective [historians I believe prefer a 50 year wait], the solicitude is amply addressed by Shirer. He reasons: that in the case of the Third Reich, the documentation proving so meticulous, extensive, and verifiable, the issue of a paucity of perspective is moot, and indeed eclipsed by the counter concern, that of time diluting the cogency and import of living testimonies.

    I reckon I’ve set a fair pace and expect to finish the book in 60 hours, at which point I hope to engage with you and some of the discernibly talented history buffs on this fascinating topic.

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    Sam, if you’re 10% through Shirer and already have clarity on “perverts, criminals and mentally unbalanced” in Hitler’s pals, you’re on your game. Players change from thence on, but the infection only spreads. Even to “respectable” volk - that’s the fascinating/dangerous/important thing.

    I read Shirer in the late 60s (btw ‘Berlin Diary’ and ‘Nightmare Years’ are also worthy). Earlier, when I should have been memorizing my Machiavelli, I made the mistake of reading Kuznetsov’s ‘Babi Yar’ (don’t try it on a weak stomach). That’s what got me started. I think Justice Robert Jackson opened the prosecution at Nüremberg with something to the effect that the trial was held to examine and judge events that, if repeated, civilization wouldn’t survive (his rendition is much more eloquent). I think he was right.

    There are now many sources to choose. Specialized histories, personal accounts, biographies, etc. I can’t say anything I’ve read greatly contradicts Shirer, unripe as it was. Kershaw, Gilbert and Fest if anything, augment portraits of incompetent cronyism and banal criminality.

    I’ve always liked the personal accounts - Speer’s ‘Inside the Third Reich’ comes to mind. How do they rationalize what was, in retrospect, egregious behavior at the highest levels? He was perhaps the most brilliant of the lot at Nüremberg. In the end, years later, he more or less admits he knew about the crimes (Gitta Sereny: ‘Albert Speer: His Battle with the Truth”). A Faust in real life. Leni Riefenstahl never quite made it there (though her autobiography is fascinating).
  159. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Israel was created by the ultra-wealthy Zionists, the Rothschilds, who just happen to run the world’s central banks, energy cartels, and god knows what else. When you advocate against Israel, you run into some of the most ruthless and dangerous people on the planet. The Clintons sold out to these people long ago.

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  160. @Avery
    {“Name an individual …” – Make your own research in small fish.}

    Again, you made up a lie about alleged ”white supremacist terrorists” (vs Islamist terrorists) and when challenged you run and hide.

    "– Make your own research in small fish." means you have nothing, as usual.

    {Agree with you that “terror and terrorism by Government do qualify” as terrorism.}

    See #151: it was typo. Gov.....do not qualify, for your false assertion of (individual) ”white supremacist terrorists” vs (individual) Islamist terrorists.

    I had no intention to follow your limited definition of “white supremacist terrorists” and I never used this definition in my posts. Moreover, I state quite clearly that the only differentiation that I made between people of different creeds is bad people versus good people. If you want to whitewash your government, this is your problem. For the majority of intelligent people, that acts of indiscriminate mass killing of innocent civilians constitute terrorism.

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  161. @Philip Giraldi
    I already answered that - yes, he appears on TV and also at conferences

    Sorry, I forgot that you indicated he was still alive. Is MEGA’s middle initial “A” and was he born in 1950?

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  162. Nonsense. Huma is a Muslim Brotherhood agent who’s influenced Hillary the same way Val Jarrett has influenced Obama to support Iran. No Israeli supporter would tolerate Huma anywhere near her.

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  163. @Avery
    {“Name an individual …” – Make your own research in small fish.}

    Again, you made up a lie about alleged ”white supremacist terrorists” (vs Islamist terrorists) and when challenged you run and hide.

    "– Make your own research in small fish." means you have nothing, as usual.

    {Agree with you that “terror and terrorism by Government do qualify” as terrorism.}

    See #151: it was typo. Gov.....do not qualify, for your false assertion of (individual) ”white supremacist terrorists” vs (individual) Islamist terrorists.

    I’m the one who cited “white supremacist terrorists”. I don’t have time to do more than give you an example.

    August 5, 2012: Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting: Six people were killed and three others were injured, including a police officer who was tending to victims at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. The gunman, 40-year-old Wade Michael Page, killed himself after being shot by police.[85] The shooting is being treated by authorities as an act of domestic terrorism.[86][87] While a motive has not been clearly defined, Page had been active in white supremacist groups.[

    Of course, Che Guano responded by moving the goal post (from incidents to casualties) and citing the big-ticket events, but even after 911, I wouldn’t be surprised if Islamists are in the minority.

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    Thanks RobinG for the info: I had forgotten about that.

    So, let's recap.

    White supremacist terrorist (one so far).
    6 killed, 3 injured.

    Islamist terror on US soil:

    Boston bombing: 6 killed, ~280 injured (some maimed, lost legs…).
    San Bernardino terror attack: 14 killed, 24 injured.
    Fort Hood Islamist terror attack: 13 killed, 32 injured.
    Orlando Islamist terror attack: 49 killed, 53 injured.

    82 killed, ~390 injured.

    Q.E.D.

    I have not listed the hundreds of Islamist terror victims in Europe.
    Also, I have not listed the 9/11, since there is some controversy…….
  164. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Jewish American groups acted as agents for Turkey and Israel when they acted at the behest of those 2 countries to try to defeat Armenian genocide resolutions in Congress.

    I am going to prove it. You can google this quote and you will find it. It is from an article and is talking about Barry Jacobs of the American Jewish Committee.

    For over 10 years, with the full blessing of his bosses, Jacobs aggressively campaigned to subvert all efforts to bring about the acknowledgment of the Armenian Genocide by the U.S. Congress. In an interview published by the Turkish Daily News on July 29, 1999, he pledged that Jewish organizations would “take an active and vigorous role in being friends of Turkey in the United States;. We will champion to the best of our ability Turkish interests in the U.S. Congress. We will be Turkey’s friends officially in Congress” and work to help get favorable legislation passed, he said.

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    > We will champion to the best of our ability Turkish interests in the U.S. Congress

    Countries don't have friendships. They have interests.

    If you IQ=92 whites ever actually put together a country, you'll discover that truth, RIGHT QUICK

    You guys make fairly good natural-gas-platform workers, but not THAT much better than Filipinos. And the filipinos are quite happy with a few scoops of rice & some fish heads.

    Throw in a helping of that purple ice cream, they'll be loyal to you forever.

  165. @Incitatus
    Art, I admire your tireless consistency. Jews, Jews everywhere! How uninteresting your life would be without Jews. But then, I suppose some other scapegoat could easily be found, hiding in similar true conspiracies.

    “Please please tell us that you are not a propagator of the Six Million Lie.”
     
    I don’t have to be. Listen to Alfred Rosenberg (rival of Göbbels btw):

    “Some six million Jews still live in the East, and this question can only be solved by a biological extermination of the whole of Jewry in Europe. The Jewish Question will only be solved for Germany when the last Jew has left German territory, and for Europe when not a single Jew stands on the European continent as far as the Urals... And to this end it is necessary to force them beyond the Urals or otherwise bring about their eradication.”
    -Alfred Rosenberg, Reichsministerium für die besetzten Ostgebiete Reich (Minister for the Occupied Eastern Territories 1941-45) 1941

    Do you doubt Rosenberg? Didn’t Übermenschen always do what they said they’d do?

    “How uninteresting your life would be without Jews. But then, I suppose some other scapegoat could easily be found….”

    Freemasons (not scapegoats, but malefactors) lurk in the wings. According to Estonian dissident Jüri Lina, the Bolsheviks, Communists, Wall St. bankers, almost everyone of any rank or power was (or is) a Freemason. Plenty of Jews included.

    Utu posted this on another thread, and I actually watched it. The archival photos and film clips are interesting, but Lina has a wild bias. No doubt the Bolshies were monsters, granted. However, Lina’s depiction of comfortable, well-fed Jews in clean work camps is priceless. Look how great the Nazis were!

    In the Shadow of Hermes by Jüri Lina (2009)

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    RobinG

    Thanks for your post. I know little about Freemasons, other than they appear (with the French, Jews, and the like) in a lot of 20C German ritual victimology (Wilhelm II blamed WW1 on them and the Jews - he was, of course, blameless). And George Washington (from 1752) and Benjamin Franklin (from 1731) were, I believe, both masons.

    Lina’s film appears interesting. Prokofiev’s Romeo and Juliet doesn’t hurt (the only better thing would be Shostakovich’s Second movement of the 10th Symphony, or the 7th). I’ll try to watch the whole thing but can’t promise anything. I’m inherently skeptical, I’m afraid. I think humans can seldom keep a secret, the essential ingredient in conspiracies. But I can be wrong.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    Have you watched The Esoteric Agenda? It's 2 hours long but well worth watching IMHO.
  166. @Philip Giraldi
    He did favors for mossad like providing their officers cover and assisting in their operations - that is what an agent does

    Phil, are you going to see

    PENCE in PURCELLVILLE tomorrow?

    I think he’s speaking about 3pm.

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    Nope - my grandson is playing football. Pence is speaking at Bible Thumper Central aka Patrick Henry College and the themes he is likely to explore in that context don't interest me
  167. @RobinG
    I'm the one who cited "white supremacist terrorists”. I don't have time to do more than give you an example.

    August 5, 2012: Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting: Six people were killed and three others were injured, including a police officer who was tending to victims at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. The gunman, 40-year-old Wade Michael Page, killed himself after being shot by police.[85] The shooting is being treated by authorities as an act of domestic terrorism.[86][87] While a motive has not been clearly defined, Page had been active in white supremacist groups.[
     
    Of course, Che Guano responded by moving the goal post (from incidents to casualties) and citing the big-ticket events, but even after 911, I wouldn't be surprised if Islamists are in the minority.

    Thanks RobinG for the info: I had forgotten about that.

    So, let’s recap.

    White supremacist terrorist (one so far).
    6 killed, 3 injured.

    Islamist terror on US soil:

    Boston bombing: 6 killed, ~280 injured (some maimed, lost legs…).
    San Bernardino terror attack: 14 killed, 24 injured.
    Fort Hood Islamist terror attack: 13 killed, 32 injured.
    Orlando Islamist terror attack: 49 killed, 53 injured.

    82 killed, ~390 injured.

    Q.E.D.

    I have not listed the hundreds of Islamist terror victims in Europe.
    Also, I have not listed the 9/11, since there is some controversy…….

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  168. @RobinG
    Phil, are you going to see

    PENCE in PURCELLVILLE tomorrow?

    I think he's speaking about 3pm.

    Nope – my grandson is playing football. Pence is speaking at Bible Thumper Central aka Patrick Henry College and the themes he is likely to explore in that context don’t interest me

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  169. @alexander
    Yes , Incitatus,

    LOTS of manure,

    especially when the crops of fraud they are sowing reaps perpetual war ,death, insolvency, and the dissolution of our freedoms.

    Hillary WILL BE shoe-ed in, because she alone will guarantee nobody will be held to account for the catastrophe's they have wrought.

    alexander,

    I fear you’re right.

    Amazing what official blindness (e.g. Wall Street 2007-08) can be had with donations in the right quarters. Is it ‘Monopoly’ that’s got the ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ card? We’ve advanced far beyond that in reality. I suppose it’s kind of like a political debit card. Now no one (of the ‘right sort’) is even indicted.

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  170. @Sam Shama
    I started reading Shirer; at about 10% of the way through now, and even at this early stage it is clear from his candid, objective and extensively referenced opus, among Hitler's top cronies, the SA, the SS, etc., perverts, criminals and mentally unbalanced elements featured rather more numerously than what one would expect in an ordinary political enterprise.

    Since it was written only about a decade following the fall of the Third Reich, hence by convention vulnerable to the charge of being unripe, i.e. lacking in ample perspective [historians I believe prefer a 50 year wait], the solicitude is amply addressed by Shirer. He reasons: that in the case of the Third Reich, the documentation proving so meticulous, extensive, and verifiable, the issue of a paucity of perspective is moot, and indeed eclipsed by the counter concern, that of time diluting the cogency and import of living testimonies.

    I reckon I've set a fair pace and expect to finish the book in 60 hours, at which point I hope to engage with you and some of the discernibly talented history buffs on this fascinating topic.

    Sam, if you’re 10% through Shirer and already have clarity on “perverts, criminals and mentally unbalanced” in Hitler’s pals, you’re on your game. Players change from thence on, but the infection only spreads. Even to “respectable” volk – that’s the fascinating/dangerous/important thing.

    I read Shirer in the late 60s (btw ‘Berlin Diary’ and ‘Nightmare Years’ are also worthy). Earlier, when I should have been memorizing my Machiavelli, I made the mistake of reading Kuznetsov’s ‘Babi Yar’ (don’t try it on a weak stomach). That’s what got me started. I think Justice Robert Jackson opened the prosecution at Nüremberg with something to the effect that the trial was held to examine and judge events that, if repeated, civilization wouldn’t survive (his rendition is much more eloquent). I think he was right.

    There are now many sources to choose. Specialized histories, personal accounts, biographies, etc. I can’t say anything I’ve read greatly contradicts Shirer, unripe as it was. Kershaw, Gilbert and Fest if anything, augment portraits of incompetent cronyism and banal criminality.

    I’ve always liked the personal accounts – Speer’s ‘Inside the Third Reich’ comes to mind. How do they rationalize what was, in retrospect, egregious behavior at the highest levels? He was perhaps the most brilliant of the lot at Nüremberg. In the end, years later, he more or less admits he knew about the crimes (Gitta Sereny: ‘Albert Speer: His Battle with the Truth”). A Faust in real life. Leni Riefenstahl never quite made it there (though her autobiography is fascinating).

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    Dear Incitatus,

    So,

    a. William Shirer: "Berlin Diary" and the TV miniseries "Nightmare Years"
    b. Anatoli Kuznetsov: 'Babi Yar' document in novel form
    c. Justice Robert Jackson's prosecution opening at Nuremberg
    d. Ian Kershaw: "Hitler: A Biography"
    e. Martin Gilbert: "The Wilderness Years"
    f. Joachim Fest: "Hitler"
    g. Albert Speer: "Inside the 3rd Reich" and
    h. Gitta Sereny: "Albert Speer: A Battle With the Truth"
    i. Leni Riefenstahl: "Leni Riefenstahl" [and I am going to re-watch Tarantino's "Inglorious Basterds" :-) ]


    What a trove. Accepted with eagerness and many thanks!

    Sam

  171. @RobinG
    "How uninteresting your life would be without Jews. But then, I suppose some other scapegoat could easily be found...."

    Freemasons (not scapegoats, but malefactors) lurk in the wings. According to Estonian dissident Jüri Lina, the Bolsheviks, Communists, Wall St. bankers, almost everyone of any rank or power was (or is) a Freemason. Plenty of Jews included.

    Utu posted this on another thread, and I actually watched it. The archival photos and film clips are interesting, but Lina has a wild bias. No doubt the Bolshies were monsters, granted. However, Lina's depiction of comfortable, well-fed Jews in clean work camps is priceless. Look how great the Nazis were!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI
    In the Shadow of Hermes by Jüri Lina (2009)

    RobinG

    Thanks for your post. I know little about Freemasons, other than they appear (with the French, Jews, and the like) in a lot of 20C German ritual victimology (Wilhelm II blamed WW1 on them and the Jews – he was, of course, blameless). And George Washington (from 1752) and Benjamin Franklin (from 1731) were, I believe, both masons.

    Lina’s film appears interesting. Prokofiev’s Romeo and Juliet doesn’t hurt (the only better thing would be Shostakovich’s Second movement of the 10th Symphony, or the 7th). I’ll try to watch the whole thing but can’t promise anything. I’m inherently skeptical, I’m afraid. I think humans can seldom keep a secret, the essential ingredient in conspiracies. But I can be wrong.

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  172. @empty
    it's from Wikipedia -- some years ago I read these speculations that identified MEGA as R.E., but somehow he feels too "high profile" for the task ...

    The Israel 1st traitor to America suspected of being the Israeli mole MEGA is mentioned in following piece by Jeffrey Steinberg (even though LaRouche is a kook Steinberg usually seems to know what is going on with Israel):

    http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html

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  173. @MInnesota Mary
    Is MEGA still alive?

    Again the Israel 1st traitor to America suspected of being MEGA is mentioned in the following piece by Jeffrey Steinberg:

    http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html

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  174. @AmericaFirstNow
    Again the Israel 1st traitor to America suspected of being MEGA is mentioned in the following piece by Jeffrey Steinberg:

    http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html

    Thank you. My hunch has been confirmed.

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  175. @Incitatus
    Sam, if you’re 10% through Shirer and already have clarity on “perverts, criminals and mentally unbalanced” in Hitler’s pals, you’re on your game. Players change from thence on, but the infection only spreads. Even to “respectable” volk - that’s the fascinating/dangerous/important thing.

    I read Shirer in the late 60s (btw ‘Berlin Diary’ and ‘Nightmare Years’ are also worthy). Earlier, when I should have been memorizing my Machiavelli, I made the mistake of reading Kuznetsov’s ‘Babi Yar’ (don’t try it on a weak stomach). That’s what got me started. I think Justice Robert Jackson opened the prosecution at Nüremberg with something to the effect that the trial was held to examine and judge events that, if repeated, civilization wouldn’t survive (his rendition is much more eloquent). I think he was right.

    There are now many sources to choose. Specialized histories, personal accounts, biographies, etc. I can’t say anything I’ve read greatly contradicts Shirer, unripe as it was. Kershaw, Gilbert and Fest if anything, augment portraits of incompetent cronyism and banal criminality.

    I’ve always liked the personal accounts - Speer’s ‘Inside the Third Reich’ comes to mind. How do they rationalize what was, in retrospect, egregious behavior at the highest levels? He was perhaps the most brilliant of the lot at Nüremberg. In the end, years later, he more or less admits he knew about the crimes (Gitta Sereny: ‘Albert Speer: His Battle with the Truth”). A Faust in real life. Leni Riefenstahl never quite made it there (though her autobiography is fascinating).

    Dear Incitatus,

    So,

    a. William Shirer: “Berlin Diary” and the TV miniseries “Nightmare Years”
    b. Anatoli Kuznetsov: ‘Babi Yar’ document in novel form
    c. Justice Robert Jackson’s prosecution opening at Nuremberg
    d. Ian Kershaw: “Hitler: A Biography”
    e. Martin Gilbert: “The Wilderness Years”
    f. Joachim Fest: “Hitler”
    g. Albert Speer: “Inside the 3rd Reich” and
    h. Gitta Sereny: “Albert Speer: A Battle With the Truth”
    i. Leni Riefenstahl: “Leni Riefenstahl” [and I am going to re-watch Tarantino's "Inglorious Basterds" :-) ]

    What a trove. Accepted with eagerness and many thanks!

    Sam

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    Sam,

    I wouldn’t attempt to read any of them without a good supply of antidepressants, rolaids and easy access to healthier subjects. Your list is great but let me augment it (sorry I was unclear):

    a. Shirer’s ‘The Nightmare Years 1930-40’ is the second volume in his ‘Twentieth Century Journey’ memoir (all three volumes are interesting). The TV series (loosely related) is worthy, if melodramatic.

    b. bang on.

    c. Jackson wrote a book on the trial I vainly tried to locate for years. Your list prompted another search (thank you) and ‘The Nürnberg Case’ (Nürnberg vs. Nüremberg) popped up. Published by Knopf in 1947, it appears to be more of a legal treatise rather than a bestseller. It’s out of print, but I found a copy in my library network I hope to borrow soon. Meanwhile, there are several good general accounts of the trial I can recommend:
    • Telford Taylor: ‘The Anatomy of the Nüremberg Trials: A Personal Memoir’;
    • Robert E. Conot: ‘Justice at Nüremberg’;
    • Joseph E. Persico: ‘Nüremberg: Infamy on Trial’;
    • Airey Neave: ‘Nüremberg’ (like Taylor, a firsthand prosecutor’s account);
    • Rebecca West: ‘Greenhouse with Cyclamens’.

    d. Ian Kershaw: I haven’t read the single ‘Hitler’ (abridged?) volume; ‘Hubris’ and ‘Nemesis’ are excellent, and his other work is first rate:
    • ‘Making Friends with Hitler’ (Lord Londonderry and appeasement);
    • ‘Hitler 1889-1936 - Hubris’;
    • ‘Hitler 1936-45 - Nemesis’;
    • ‘The End’ (Germany 1944-45);
    • ‘Hitler, the Germans, and The Final Solution’ (essays);
    • ‘The Hitler Myth: Image and Reality in the Third Reich’;
    • ‘Popular Opinion and Political Dissent in the Third Reich: Bavaria 1933-45’;
    • ‘To Hell and Back: Europe 1914-49’.

    e. Gustave M. Gilbert was the Nüremberg prison psychologist during the trial:
    • ‘Nüremberg Diary’ (insightful profiles of each defendant);

    f. Joachim Fest: superb work:
    • ‘Hitler’;
    • ‘The Face of the Third Reich: Portraits of the Nazi Leadership’;
    • ‘Speer’;

    g. bang on. Speer’s ‘Spandau’ is also interesting but less relevant;

    h. Sereny, in addition to ‘Albert Speer: His Battle with Truth’, also published ‘Into That Darkness’ - an excellent portrait of Franz Stangl, commandant of Treblinka based on firsthand interviews. Another Faust.

    i. ‘Leni Riefenstahl: A Memoir’ goes well with screening her magnum opus ‘Triumph of the Will’. The 1934 Nazi Party Rally at Nüremberg, it’s a rather ponderous exercise with lots of “heils”, “sieg heils”, “Mein Führers”, and sweaty Nazis with upraised arms, all beautifully filmed (if you can stay awake). I’d be surprised if they didn’t need strong laxatives after such pageants.

    David Irving’s work (‘Göring’, ‘Trail of the Fox’ (Rommel), ‘Hitler’s War’, etc) is good but comes with a rather sympathetic (if not indulgent) treatment of Nazi behavior. Irving well deserved to lose his asinine lawsuit against Deborah Lipstadt.

    The Shoah (double the antidepressants and rolaids):
    • Raul Hilberg: ‘The Destruction of the European Jews’ (3 volumes: the standard);
    • Timothy Snyder: ‘Black Earth’ and ‘Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin’ (both excellent);
    • Czerniakow/Hilberg: ‘The Warsaw Diary of Adam Czerniakow’;
    • Christopher R. Browning: ‘Ordinary Men’,‘The Origins of the Final Solution’, and ‘Nazi Policy, Jewish Workers, German Killers’;
    • Richard Rhodes: ‘Masters of Death’ (the Einsatzgruppen: read only on an empty stomach);
    • David A. Hackett: ‘The Buchenwald Report’ (clinical ;
    • Rudolf Höß: ‘Commandant of Auschwitz’ (his memoir).;
    • Primo Levi: ‘Survival in Auschwitz’ and ‘The Reawakening’.

    Most of my library’s in storage, so I’m sure I’m missing something. There’re too many individual portraits of Nazi brass (Göring, Göbbels, Dönitz, Himmler, Rosenberg, etc) to bother with here. Apologies for being so long-winded. Don’t, by any means, read all of these (warning: potential misery overdose). But I hope it’s useful.

    And, by all means, screen ‘Inglorious Basterds.’

    All the best,
    Incitatus
  176. @RobinG
    "How uninteresting your life would be without Jews. But then, I suppose some other scapegoat could easily be found...."

    Freemasons (not scapegoats, but malefactors) lurk in the wings. According to Estonian dissident Jüri Lina, the Bolsheviks, Communists, Wall St. bankers, almost everyone of any rank or power was (or is) a Freemason. Plenty of Jews included.

    Utu posted this on another thread, and I actually watched it. The archival photos and film clips are interesting, but Lina has a wild bias. No doubt the Bolshies were monsters, granted. However, Lina's depiction of comfortable, well-fed Jews in clean work camps is priceless. Look how great the Nazis were!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI
    In the Shadow of Hermes by Jüri Lina (2009)

    Have you watched The Esoteric Agenda? It’s 2 hours long but well worth watching IMHO.

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  177. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Are the Clintons Israeli agents? The short answer to that question is “yes”, however, that doesn’t tell the ENTIRE story. If you want something that comes closer to the ENTIRE story, you really have to have studied the History of Europe and America, especially the ECONOMIC History of Europe and America. Rothschild-Israel, established 1948, illegally in PALESTINE, is simply PART of a much bigger “Jew”-ish picture, in which “Jews” have literally HIJACKED every major institution of the West. Literally.

    X22 Report: Central Bankers Can’t Stop The Economic Collapse Instead They Will Cover It Up
    http://sgtreport.com/2015/01/x22-report-central-bankers-cant-stop-the-economic-collapse-instead-they-will-cover-it-up

    Read ALL the comments. Click on ALL the links. Read/view/listen to ALL content.

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  178. Considering Hillary is Jewish and that theres a high chance that Bill could be a Rockefeller (of Jewish stock anyway) go figure. America stopped being for Americans long long ago, but retards (99% of the population) cant see that. Good luck with that!

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    Where does the idea that HRC is Jewish come from or that the Rockefellers are of Jewish stock?
  179. @Incitatus
    What’s the big deal? Hillary will make a fine POTUS. She’s long experience in doublespeak, thought conformance, donor amenity, discrete Wall Street accommodation, greasing the skids, and (most important) maintaining the perpetual war we’ve all come to love (esp. the defense industry). And she’s always for sale (what could be better?). The Lincoln bedroom’s a wasting.

    Skeptics complain about Hill’s brave stance on Libya and a Syrian no-fly-zone, let alone her hawkish attitude on Russia. They forget we’ve got to justify epochal projects like the (still dysfunctional) F-35, nuclear sub fleet renewal, Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carriers, Zumwalt-class destroyers, and B-3 bomber. It takes a village, after all.

    OK, say Trump wins. Will there be any difference? Don’s signature issue is illegal immigration. As some may have noticed, he’s shifted over the past few days. Not unlike his epiphany on Mideast neutrality, which suddenly turned into unconditional support at AIPAC. Five deferments (like Cheney), four bankruptcies, three wives? Are you kidding?

    Donald is hard to scrip. Hillary is decidedly better.

    Historical precedence? Livia Drusilla, wife of Emperor Augustus. Adept at palace intrigue, dynastic defense and self perpetuation. And - look forward to this - proclaimed Augustae and renamed Julia Augusta, then deified as a goddess in AD 42 (it helped expunge many sins).

    Take ur meds. Seriously. The criminal system is proud of sheeple like u. U deserve ur fate.

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  180. @Anonymous
    Jewish American groups acted as agents for Turkey and Israel when they acted at the behest of those 2 countries to try to defeat Armenian genocide resolutions in Congress.

    I am going to prove it. You can google this quote and you will find it. It is from an article and is talking about Barry Jacobs of the American Jewish Committee.

    For over 10 years, with the full blessing of his bosses, Jacobs aggressively campaigned to subvert all efforts to bring about the acknowledgment of the Armenian Genocide by the U.S. Congress. In an interview published by the Turkish Daily News on July 29, 1999, he pledged that Jewish organizations would "take an active and vigorous role in being friends of Turkey in the United States;. We will champion to the best of our ability Turkish interests in the U.S. Congress. We will be Turkey’s friends officially in Congress" and work to help get favorable legislation passed, he said.

    > We will champion to the best of our ability Turkish interests in the U.S. Congress

    Countries don’t have friendships. They have interests.

    If you IQ=92 whites ever actually put together a country, you’ll discover that truth, RIGHT QUICK

    You guys make fairly good natural-gas-platform workers, but not THAT much better than Filipinos. And the filipinos are quite happy with a few scoops of rice & some fish heads.

    Throw in a helping of that purple ice cream, they’ll be loyal to you forever.

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  181. ‘Western values:’ http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/08/poland-on-chopping-block-natos.html

    Polish democracy under attack by NATO: “On May 16th, the leader of the political party Zmiana (“Change”), Mateusz Piskorski, issued a prescient warning on his blog that NATO’s newly deployed Very High Readiness Joint Task Force was going to “pacify” protests and opposition groups according to the North Atlantic Treaty’s Article 4 under the pretext of fighting “Russian hybrid war.” Piskorski warned that NATO’s repressive plans would ultimately render any forms of protest in the country, whether on the streets or on the internet, subject to suppression on the orders of US-NATO advisors.
    Two days later, on May 18th, armed agents of the Internal Security Agency raided Zmiana’s office and its activists’ homes and arrested and imprisoned Piskorski while a media campaign hurled the ridiculous charges that he was a “Russian, Chinese, and/or Iraqi spy.” In a most telling and foreboding instance, officers even confiscated ordinary Polish flags from Zmiana’s activists, a move which in Polish history usually accompanies war on Polish soil. Without any official charges brought against him, Poland’s leading anti-NATO figure who confidently declared in 2015 that “a Poland without NATO is a Poland without wars”, to this day remains in isolation in prison, from where he has stressed in two urgent letters that Poland is being converted into a launch pad and target for WWIII.”
    Lunatics.

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  182. @Sam Shama
    Dear Incitatus,

    So,

    a. William Shirer: "Berlin Diary" and the TV miniseries "Nightmare Years"
    b. Anatoli Kuznetsov: 'Babi Yar' document in novel form
    c. Justice Robert Jackson's prosecution opening at Nuremberg
    d. Ian Kershaw: "Hitler: A Biography"
    e. Martin Gilbert: "The Wilderness Years"
    f. Joachim Fest: "Hitler"
    g. Albert Speer: "Inside the 3rd Reich" and
    h. Gitta Sereny: "Albert Speer: A Battle With the Truth"
    i. Leni Riefenstahl: "Leni Riefenstahl" [and I am going to re-watch Tarantino's "Inglorious Basterds" :-) ]


    What a trove. Accepted with eagerness and many thanks!

    Sam

    Sam,

    I wouldn’t attempt to read any of them without a good supply of antidepressants, rolaids and easy access to healthier subjects. Your list is great but let me augment it (sorry I was unclear):

    a. Shirer’s ‘The Nightmare Years 1930-40’ is the second volume in his ‘Twentieth Century Journey’ memoir (all three volumes are interesting). The TV series (loosely related) is worthy, if melodramatic.

    b. bang on.

    [MORE]

    c. Jackson wrote a book on the trial I vainly tried to locate for years. Your list prompted another search (thank you) and ‘The Nürnberg Case’ (Nürnberg vs. Nüremberg) popped up. Published by Knopf in 1947, it appears to be more of a legal treatise rather than a bestseller. It’s out of print, but I found a copy in my library network I hope to borrow soon. Meanwhile, there are several good general accounts of the trial I can recommend:
    • Telford Taylor: ‘The Anatomy of the Nüremberg Trials: A Personal Memoir’;
    • Robert E. Conot: ‘Justice at Nüremberg’;
    • Joseph E. Persico: ‘Nüremberg: Infamy on Trial’;
    • Airey Neave: ‘Nüremberg’ (like Taylor, a firsthand prosecutor’s account);
    • Rebecca West: ‘Greenhouse with Cyclamens’.

    d. Ian Kershaw: I haven’t read the single ‘Hitler’ (abridged?) volume; ‘Hubris’ and ‘Nemesis’ are excellent, and his other work is first rate:
    • ‘Making Friends with Hitler’ (Lord Londonderry and appeasement);
    • ‘Hitler 1889-1936 – Hubris’;
    • ‘Hitler 1936-45 – Nemesis’;
    • ‘The End’ (Germany 1944-45);
    • ‘Hitler, the Germans, and The Final Solution’ (essays);
    • ‘The Hitler Myth: Image and Reality in the Third Reich’;
    • ‘Popular Opinion and Political Dissent in the Third Reich: Bavaria 1933-45’;
    • ‘To Hell and Back: Europe 1914-49’.

    e. Gustave M. Gilbert was the Nüremberg prison psychologist during the trial:
    • ‘Nüremberg Diary’ (insightful profiles of each defendant);

    f. Joachim Fest: superb work:
    • ‘Hitler’;
    • ‘The Face of the Third Reich: Portraits of the Nazi Leadership’;
    • ‘Speer’;

    g. bang on. Speer’s ‘Spandau’ is also interesting but less relevant;

    h. Sereny, in addition to ‘Albert Speer: His Battle with Truth’, also published ‘Into That Darkness’ – an excellent portrait of Franz Stangl, commandant of Treblinka based on firsthand interviews. Another Faust.

    i. ‘Leni Riefenstahl: A Memoir’ goes well with screening her magnum opus ‘Triumph of the Will’. The 1934 Nazi Party Rally at Nüremberg, it’s a rather ponderous exercise with lots of “heils”, “sieg heils”, “Mein Führers”, and sweaty Nazis with upraised arms, all beautifully filmed (if you can stay awake). I’d be surprised if they didn’t need strong laxatives after such pageants.

    David Irving’s work (‘Göring’, ‘Trail of the Fox’ (Rommel), ‘Hitler’s War’, etc) is good but comes with a rather sympathetic (if not indulgent) treatment of Nazi behavior. Irving well deserved to lose his asinine lawsuit against Deborah Lipstadt.

    The Shoah (double the antidepressants and rolaids):
    • Raul Hilberg: ‘The Destruction of the European Jews’ (3 volumes: the standard);
    • Timothy Snyder: ‘Black Earth’ and ‘Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin’ (both excellent);
    • Czerniakow/Hilberg: ‘The Warsaw Diary of Adam Czerniakow’;
    • Christopher R. Browning: ‘Ordinary Men’,‘The Origins of the Final Solution’, and ‘Nazi Policy, Jewish Workers, German Killers’;
    • Richard Rhodes: ‘Masters of Death’ (the Einsatzgruppen: read only on an empty stomach);
    • David A. Hackett: ‘The Buchenwald Report’ (clinical ;
    • Rudolf Höß: ‘Commandant of Auschwitz’ (his memoir).;
    • Primo Levi: ‘Survival in Auschwitz’ and ‘The Reawakening’.

    Most of my library’s in storage, so I’m sure I’m missing something. There’re too many individual portraits of Nazi brass (Göring, Göbbels, Dönitz, Himmler, Rosenberg, etc) to bother with here. Apologies for being so long-winded. Don’t, by any means, read all of these (warning: potential misery overdose). But I hope it’s useful.

    And, by all means, screen ‘Inglorious Basterds.’

    All the best,
    Incitatus

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    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    This list is of great value to me, since it is so easy to go off on a tangent with references, when pursuing a study of WWs, given it's wide scope.

    Thanks again.
  183. @Christinne
    Take ur meds. Seriously. The criminal system is proud of sheeple like u. U deserve ur fate.

    Isn’t it past your nap time?

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    You'll notice this was "Christinne" [with the silly spelling, like 'Megyn']'s very first comment on the UR; holding back no doubt she was, soon to unleash her vast knowledge on us.
  184. @Incitatus
    Sam,

    I wouldn’t attempt to read any of them without a good supply of antidepressants, rolaids and easy access to healthier subjects. Your list is great but let me augment it (sorry I was unclear):

    a. Shirer’s ‘The Nightmare Years 1930-40’ is the second volume in his ‘Twentieth Century Journey’ memoir (all three volumes are interesting). The TV series (loosely related) is worthy, if melodramatic.

    b. bang on.

    c. Jackson wrote a book on the trial I vainly tried to locate for years. Your list prompted another search (thank you) and ‘The Nürnberg Case’ (Nürnberg vs. Nüremberg) popped up. Published by Knopf in 1947, it appears to be more of a legal treatise rather than a bestseller. It’s out of print, but I found a copy in my library network I hope to borrow soon. Meanwhile, there are several good general accounts of the trial I can recommend:
    • Telford Taylor: ‘The Anatomy of the Nüremberg Trials: A Personal Memoir’;
    • Robert E. Conot: ‘Justice at Nüremberg’;
    • Joseph E. Persico: ‘Nüremberg: Infamy on Trial’;
    • Airey Neave: ‘Nüremberg’ (like Taylor, a firsthand prosecutor’s account);
    • Rebecca West: ‘Greenhouse with Cyclamens’.

    d. Ian Kershaw: I haven’t read the single ‘Hitler’ (abridged?) volume; ‘Hubris’ and ‘Nemesis’ are excellent, and his other work is first rate:
    • ‘Making Friends with Hitler’ (Lord Londonderry and appeasement);
    • ‘Hitler 1889-1936 - Hubris’;
    • ‘Hitler 1936-45 - Nemesis’;
    • ‘The End’ (Germany 1944-45);
    • ‘Hitler, the Germans, and The Final Solution’ (essays);
    • ‘The Hitler Myth: Image and Reality in the Third Reich’;
    • ‘Popular Opinion and Political Dissent in the Third Reich: Bavaria 1933-45’;
    • ‘To Hell and Back: Europe 1914-49’.

    e. Gustave M. Gilbert was the Nüremberg prison psychologist during the trial:
    • ‘Nüremberg Diary’ (insightful profiles of each defendant);

    f. Joachim Fest: superb work:
    • ‘Hitler’;
    • ‘The Face of the Third Reich: Portraits of the Nazi Leadership’;
    • ‘Speer’;

    g. bang on. Speer’s ‘Spandau’ is also interesting but less relevant;

    h. Sereny, in addition to ‘Albert Speer: His Battle with Truth’, also published ‘Into That Darkness’ - an excellent portrait of Franz Stangl, commandant of Treblinka based on firsthand interviews. Another Faust.

    i. ‘Leni Riefenstahl: A Memoir’ goes well with screening her magnum opus ‘Triumph of the Will’. The 1934 Nazi Party Rally at Nüremberg, it’s a rather ponderous exercise with lots of “heils”, “sieg heils”, “Mein Führers”, and sweaty Nazis with upraised arms, all beautifully filmed (if you can stay awake). I’d be surprised if they didn’t need strong laxatives after such pageants.

    David Irving’s work (‘Göring’, ‘Trail of the Fox’ (Rommel), ‘Hitler’s War’, etc) is good but comes with a rather sympathetic (if not indulgent) treatment of Nazi behavior. Irving well deserved to lose his asinine lawsuit against Deborah Lipstadt.

    The Shoah (double the antidepressants and rolaids):
    • Raul Hilberg: ‘The Destruction of the European Jews’ (3 volumes: the standard);
    • Timothy Snyder: ‘Black Earth’ and ‘Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin’ (both excellent);
    • Czerniakow/Hilberg: ‘The Warsaw Diary of Adam Czerniakow’;
    • Christopher R. Browning: ‘Ordinary Men’,‘The Origins of the Final Solution’, and ‘Nazi Policy, Jewish Workers, German Killers’;
    • Richard Rhodes: ‘Masters of Death’ (the Einsatzgruppen: read only on an empty stomach);
    • David A. Hackett: ‘The Buchenwald Report’ (clinical ;
    • Rudolf Höß: ‘Commandant of Auschwitz’ (his memoir).;
    • Primo Levi: ‘Survival in Auschwitz’ and ‘The Reawakening’.

    Most of my library’s in storage, so I’m sure I’m missing something. There’re too many individual portraits of Nazi brass (Göring, Göbbels, Dönitz, Himmler, Rosenberg, etc) to bother with here. Apologies for being so long-winded. Don’t, by any means, read all of these (warning: potential misery overdose). But I hope it’s useful.

    And, by all means, screen ‘Inglorious Basterds.’

    All the best,
    Incitatus

    This list is of great value to me, since it is so easy to go off on a tangent with references, when pursuing a study of WWs, given it’s wide scope.

    Thanks again.

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    This list is of great value to me, since it is so easy to go off on a tangent with references, when pursuing a study of WWs, given it’s wide scope.

    Sam,

    Yes - it is most important that you Jews wallow in your Six Million Lie some more.

    Oh ya - keep hate alive, stoke those tribal feelings, pound your chest – chant JEW JEW JEW!!!

    Pump that hasbara guilt forever – go for it.

    What a life.

    Art

    p.s. How intellectually satisfying it most be to push a lie on seven billion people.

    p.s. Not only do you Jews fool everyone – you get kill some of us too – isn’t it great – what a people. You'll are so special.
  185. @Incitatus
    Isn’t it past your nap time?

    You’ll notice this was “Christinne” [with the silly spelling, like 'Megyn']‘s very first comment on the UR; holding back no doubt she was, soon to unleash her vast knowledge on us.

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    • Replies: @Incitatus
    Hi Sam

    I too marveled at ‘Christinne’ and #193. As John Gielgud might say in character ‘I wait breathlessly for her next epistle’ (hopefully before middle school demands more of her time).

    All the best
  186. @Sam Shama
    You'll notice this was "Christinne" [with the silly spelling, like 'Megyn']'s very first comment on the UR; holding back no doubt she was, soon to unleash her vast knowledge on us.

    Hi Sam

    I too marveled at ‘Christinne’ and #193. As John Gielgud might say in character ‘I wait breathlessly for her next epistle’ (hopefully before middle school demands more of her time).

    All the best

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  187. @Sam Shama
    This list is of great value to me, since it is so easy to go off on a tangent with references, when pursuing a study of WWs, given it's wide scope.

    Thanks again.

    This list is of great value to me, since it is so easy to go off on a tangent with references, when pursuing a study of WWs, given it’s wide scope.

    Sam,

    Yes – it is most important that you Jews wallow in your Six Million Lie some more.

    Oh ya – keep hate alive, stoke those tribal feelings, pound your chest – chant JEW JEW JEW!!!

    Pump that hasbara guilt forever – go for it.

    What a life.

    Art

    p.s. How intellectually satisfying it most be to push a lie on seven billion people.

    p.s. Not only do you Jews fool everyone – you get kill some of us too – isn’t it great – what a people. You’ll are so special.

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    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    Surely you must know how clueless and unemployed you sound with that monotonous trope.
    , @Incitatus
    Art, Reichsminister Al Rosenberg (Aryan in good standing) mentioned the 6 million Jews. Would he lie to you? Would he fail to deliver on his promise of “eradication”?

    sputter, sputter, sputter, Jews, Jews, Jews
    mutter, mutter, mutter, Jews, Jews, Jews
    grumble, grumble, grumble

    Art, how lamentably finite is your world. Take a tip from Nietzsche:
    “Must one rumble like drums and Lenten preachers? Or do they believe only those who stammer?"

    Best regards from an old equine
  188. @Art
    This list is of great value to me, since it is so easy to go off on a tangent with references, when pursuing a study of WWs, given it’s wide scope.

    Sam,

    Yes - it is most important that you Jews wallow in your Six Million Lie some more.

    Oh ya - keep hate alive, stoke those tribal feelings, pound your chest – chant JEW JEW JEW!!!

    Pump that hasbara guilt forever – go for it.

    What a life.

    Art

    p.s. How intellectually satisfying it most be to push a lie on seven billion people.

    p.s. Not only do you Jews fool everyone – you get kill some of us too – isn’t it great – what a people. You'll are so special.

    Surely you must know how clueless and unemployed you sound with that monotonous trope.

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    Surely you must know how clueless and unemployed you sound with that monotonous trope.

    Sam,

    Surly - you of all people on this site - know that I an not clueless.

    Art

    p.s. There are a lot of unemployed people of good character in our Deep State Jew economy.

    p.s. So Sam – how many times a day do you think “Jew”? How deep does your gonad identity obsession go in you psyche?
  189. @Art
    This list is of great value to me, since it is so easy to go off on a tangent with references, when pursuing a study of WWs, given it’s wide scope.

    Sam,

    Yes - it is most important that you Jews wallow in your Six Million Lie some more.

    Oh ya - keep hate alive, stoke those tribal feelings, pound your chest – chant JEW JEW JEW!!!

    Pump that hasbara guilt forever – go for it.

    What a life.

    Art

    p.s. How intellectually satisfying it most be to push a lie on seven billion people.

    p.s. Not only do you Jews fool everyone – you get kill some of us too – isn’t it great – what a people. You'll are so special.

    Art, Reichsminister Al Rosenberg (Aryan in good standing) mentioned the 6 million Jews. Would he lie to you? Would he fail to deliver on his promise of “eradication”?

    sputter, sputter, sputter, Jews, Jews, Jews
    mutter, mutter, mutter, Jews, Jews, Jews
    grumble, grumble, grumble

    Art, how lamentably finite is your world. Take a tip from Nietzsche:
    “Must one rumble like drums and Lenten preachers? Or do they believe only those who stammer?”

    Best regards from an old equine

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  190. @Sam Shama
    Surely you must know how clueless and unemployed you sound with that monotonous trope.

    Surely you must know how clueless and unemployed you sound with that monotonous trope.

    Sam,

    Surly – you of all people on this site – know that I an not clueless.

    Art

    p.s. There are a lot of unemployed people of good character in our Deep State Jew economy.

    p.s. So Sam – how many times a day do you think “Jew”? How deep does your gonad identity obsession go in you psyche?

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    Art,

    Well, right you are, my error indeed. You aren't clueless at all, in fact you are the over-clued Pink Panther; Inspector Art Clouseau.

    There's a certain harebrained plaintiveness about you, Art, and since I have read my fill for the Sunday, I shall humour you [and your other avatars].

    The word "Jew" seldom crosses my mind other than when reading this site to be honest [which might indeed be hours lost were it not for a small number of brilliant contributors and commenters]. Still, I reckon, it does rather cross my mind more frequently than does any original thought your's.

    A word of advice: Lay off the Pork and Beans for a fortnight or so, and perhaps the gases in your system will dissipate, allowing saner thoughts.
  191. @Christinne
    Considering Hillary is Jewish and that theres a high chance that Bill could be a Rockefeller (of Jewish stock anyway) go figure. America stopped being for Americans long long ago, but retards (99% of the population) cant see that. Good luck with that!

    Where does the idea that HRC is Jewish come from or that the Rockefellers are of Jewish stock?

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    Where does the idea that HRC is Jewish come from or that the Rockefellers are of Jewish stock?

    Say Wiz,

    I think that Christinne is the new guy five rows over and thirty six cubicles down from you. (He has bumps on his chest.) Your basement cubicle mates Incitatus, Sam, and iffen must know him.

    He/she is bucking for my chief double agent job on the top floor of Hasbara Central (the tallest building in Tel Aviv).

    Art
  192. @Wizard of Oz
    Where does the idea that HRC is Jewish come from or that the Rockefellers are of Jewish stock?

    Where does the idea that HRC is Jewish come from or that the Rockefellers are of Jewish stock?

    Say Wiz,

    I think that Christinne is the new guy five rows over and thirty six cubicles down from you. (He has bumps on his chest.) Your basement cubicle mates Incitatus, Sam, and iffen must know him.

    He/she is bucking for my chief double agent job on the top floor of Hasbara Central (the tallest building in Tel Aviv).

    Art

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  193. @Art
    Surely you must know how clueless and unemployed you sound with that monotonous trope.

    Sam,

    Surly - you of all people on this site - know that I an not clueless.

    Art

    p.s. There are a lot of unemployed people of good character in our Deep State Jew economy.

    p.s. So Sam – how many times a day do you think “Jew”? How deep does your gonad identity obsession go in you psyche?

    Art,

    Well, right you are, my error indeed. You aren’t clueless at all, in fact you are the over-clued Pink Panther; Inspector Art Clouseau.

    There’s a certain harebrained plaintiveness about you, Art, and since I have read my fill for the Sunday, I shall humour you [and your other avatars].

    The word “Jew” seldom crosses my mind other than when reading this site to be honest [which might indeed be hours lost were it not for a small number of brilliant contributors and commenters]. Still, I reckon, it does rather cross my mind more frequently than does any original thought your’s.

    A word of advice: Lay off the Pork and Beans for a fortnight or so, and perhaps the gases in your system will dissipate, allowing saner thoughts.

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    • Replies: @Art
    A word of advice: Lay off the Pork and Beans for a fortnight or so, and perhaps the gases in your system will dissipate, allowing saner thoughts.

    Sam,

    Moshe and my mates here at the home love you.

    Art
  194. @Sam Shama
    Art,

    Well, right you are, my error indeed. You aren't clueless at all, in fact you are the over-clued Pink Panther; Inspector Art Clouseau.

    There's a certain harebrained plaintiveness about you, Art, and since I have read my fill for the Sunday, I shall humour you [and your other avatars].

    The word "Jew" seldom crosses my mind other than when reading this site to be honest [which might indeed be hours lost were it not for a small number of brilliant contributors and commenters]. Still, I reckon, it does rather cross my mind more frequently than does any original thought your's.

    A word of advice: Lay off the Pork and Beans for a fortnight or so, and perhaps the gases in your system will dissipate, allowing saner thoughts.

    A word of advice: Lay off the Pork and Beans for a fortnight or so, and perhaps the gases in your system will dissipate, allowing saner thoughts.

    Sam,

    Moshe and my mates here at the home love you.

    Art

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  195. @Art
    Ah, the ever present, efflorescent S2C! Propping up Göbbels (it’s about time!) with Art in tow, no less.

    S2C was commenting about the lie that you Jews tell about Gobbels inventing "state big lie propaganda" - when in fact Gobbels was copying someone else.

    How funny - the absolute "masters at propaganda" giving credit to someone else.

    In our culture, whenever some media propagated idea is 100% wrong - you first look to the Jews as the reason.

    Please please tell us that you are not a propagator of the Six Million Lie.

    If you do - then you have zero credibility and no standing to complain about anything S2C says.

    p.s. I saw some dunderhead on FOX JEWS tonight say the Six Million Lie – he almost chocked on the words – his subconscious body actually rebelled at the lie.

    Well, there’s no pleasing some people.

    Art, you wrote about “the Six Million Lie” (#162, #202), and I responded (#170, #204). I tried to be helpful in recounting the words of Reichsminister Albert Rosenberg (second only to Adolf as NSDAP philosopher). Did he lie, I asked? Don’t Aryans deliver on their promises of “eradication” I asked?

    Alas, you never responded.

    Well, last night we held a séance at Hasbara Central, and I’m sorry to report the Reichsminister is very unhappy with you. “Who are you to doubt the Meister Raße?” his shade shouted “A mongrel American? Make no mistake, we do what we say we’ll do.” Unfortunately the rest of the interview didn’t go well. He thinks you should try writing ‘JEWS, JEWS, JEWS’ in all caps, and much more often. You’ll have to try harder.

    He also wanted to make sure you mopped the spittle from your lips regularly as you’re writing (he had some unfortunate experiences in that regard).

    BTW, he thought your posing as ‘Christinne’ (#193, #194) was a good try, but unworthy of an übermensch even if you’re a mutt (you’re not a Nazi hermaphrodite, are you?).

    Remember, all caps and much, much, much more often.

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    Oh my – what is wrong with you Jews – why do you think we who oppose your Jewish tribal character, also love Nazis. With your Jewish state BS and your apartheid walls, you are hardline fascists. You people are no less bonkers about your fatherland then the Nazis.

    I hate your piece of crap Nazi general mentor. Why would I trust him on anything? I bet you have 50 fascist generals in Israel just as bad as he was.

    Fifty million people died in WWII – I honor all of them, even the Jews who were less the 2% of the total.

    Already more people have died in the ME because of Israel, then Jews who died in WWII. We all know that you Israelis have just started. You and your fascist Zionist generals have bigger plans – much bigger plans.

    Art

    p.s. In the basement of Hasbara Central, as you are warming up in the morning, I hear you Little Jews screeching and chanting - JEW JEW JEW. I know it is sick – and I know that it is a sad job - but that is what it takes to build up the bravado of you paid liars.

  196. @Art
    Ah, the ever present, efflorescent S2C! Propping up Göbbels (it’s about time!) with Art in tow, no less.

    S2C was commenting about the lie that you Jews tell about Gobbels inventing "state big lie propaganda" - when in fact Gobbels was copying someone else.

    How funny - the absolute "masters at propaganda" giving credit to someone else.

    In our culture, whenever some media propagated idea is 100% wrong - you first look to the Jews as the reason.

    Please please tell us that you are not a propagator of the Six Million Lie.

    If you do - then you have zero credibility and no standing to complain about anything S2C says.

    p.s. I saw some dunderhead on FOX JEWS tonight say the Six Million Lie – he almost chocked on the words – his subconscious body actually rebelled at the lie.

    Neglected to suggest, perhaps you might ask S2C to go lightly on the Pork and Beans as well during your communal feasts. Similar concerns.

    Also, on that seance Incitatus mentioned earlier, you must remember to thank him. He was advocating better treatment for you, an American mongrel, pointing out that you share something common with Herr Rosenberg who was rejected on his first attempt to join the Aryan army on account of his possible Russian ancestry. Rosenberg conceded a remedy for you; that you capitalise the JEW, exactly as Incitatus informed.

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    Sam,

    What is with the capital spelling of - JEW - that so concerns you?

    Art
  197. @Incitatus
    Well, there’s no pleasing some people.

    Art, you wrote about “the Six Million Lie” (#162, #202), and I responded (#170, #204). I tried to be helpful in recounting the words of Reichsminister Albert Rosenberg (second only to Adolf as NSDAP philosopher). Did he lie, I asked? Don’t Aryans deliver on their promises of “eradication” I asked?

    Alas, you never responded.

    Well, last night we held a séance at Hasbara Central, and I’m sorry to report the Reichsminister is very unhappy with you. “Who are you to doubt the Meister Raße?” his shade shouted “A mongrel American? Make no mistake, we do what we say we’ll do.” Unfortunately the rest of the interview didn’t go well. He thinks you should try writing ‘JEWS, JEWS, JEWS’ in all caps, and much more often. You’ll have to try harder.

    He also wanted to make sure you mopped the spittle from your lips regularly as you’re writing (he had some unfortunate experiences in that regard).

    BTW, he thought your posing as ‘Christinne’ (#193, #194) was a good try, but unworthy of an übermensch even if you’re a mutt (you’re not a Nazi hermaphrodite, are you?).

    Remember, all caps and much, much, much more often.

    Oh my – what is wrong with you Jews – why do you think we who oppose your Jewish tribal character, also love Nazis. With your Jewish state BS and your apartheid walls, you are hardline fascists. You people are no less bonkers about your fatherland then the Nazis.

    I hate your piece of crap Nazi general mentor. Why would I trust him on anything? I bet you have 50 fascist generals in Israel just as bad as he was.

    Fifty million people died in WWII – I honor all of them, even the Jews who were less the 2% of the total.

    Already more people have died in the ME because of Israel, then Jews who died in WWII. We all know that you Israelis have just started. You and your fascist Zionist generals have bigger plans – much bigger plans.

    Art

    p.s. In the basement of Hasbara Central, as you are warming up in the morning, I hear you Little Jews screeching and chanting – JEW JEW JEW. I know it is sick – and I know that it is a sad job – but that is what it takes to build up the bravado of you paid liars.

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    I confess I’m confused. OK, it happens more often as I age, but help me out.

    Art, you alleged I believed in “the Six Million Lie” (#162). I responded with a direct quote from a responsible party who was there - Reichsminister Albert Rosenberg (#170). Failing your response I obtained his shade’s advice for your benefit (#210). By the way Rosenberg wasn’t a” general” - he held NSDAP political office, a Ministry no less.

    You’ve dodged his words in all of your responses. Hence the source of my confusion. Was there a “Six Million Lie” Art? Was Rosenberg wrong?

    And now, as you mourn the 50± million dead in WW2 (we all do), you generously concede Jews “were less than 2% of the total.” If my math skills survive that means you’re saying less than 1 million Jews died (correct me if I’m wrong). I suppose my next question (after trying to think up ways to calm the Reichsminister at our next séance) is to ask what your source is?

    Remember Art, this is all about your proposition of “the Six Million Lie.”
  198. @Sam Shama
    Neglected to suggest, perhaps you might ask S2C to go lightly on the Pork and Beans as well during your communal feasts. Similar concerns.

    Also, on that seance Incitatus mentioned earlier, you must remember to thank him. He was advocating better treatment for you, an American mongrel, pointing out that you share something common with Herr Rosenberg who was rejected on his first attempt to join the Aryan army on account of his possible Russian ancestry. Rosenberg conceded a remedy for you; that you capitalise the JEW, exactly as Incitatus informed.

    Sam,

    What is with the capital spelling of – JEW – that so concerns you?

    Art

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  199. @Art
    Oh my – what is wrong with you Jews – why do you think we who oppose your Jewish tribal character, also love Nazis. With your Jewish state BS and your apartheid walls, you are hardline fascists. You people are no less bonkers about your fatherland then the Nazis.

    I hate your piece of crap Nazi general mentor. Why would I trust him on anything? I bet you have 50 fascist generals in Israel just as bad as he was.

    Fifty million people died in WWII – I honor all of them, even the Jews who were less the 2% of the total.

    Already more people have died in the ME because of Israel, then Jews who died in WWII. We all know that you Israelis have just started. You and your fascist Zionist generals have bigger plans – much bigger plans.

    Art

    p.s. In the basement of Hasbara Central, as you are warming up in the morning, I hear you Little Jews screeching and chanting - JEW JEW JEW. I know it is sick – and I know that it is a sad job - but that is what it takes to build up the bravado of you paid liars.

    I confess I’m confused. OK, it happens more often as I age, but help me out.

    Art, you alleged I believed in “the Six Million Lie” (#162). I responded with a direct quote from a responsible party who was there – Reichsminister Albert Rosenberg (#170). Failing your response I obtained his shade’s advice for your benefit (#210). By the way Rosenberg wasn’t a” general” – he held NSDAP political office, a Ministry no less.

    You’ve dodged his words in all of your responses. Hence the source of my confusion. Was there a “Six Million Lie” Art? Was Rosenberg wrong?

    And now, as you mourn the 50± million dead in WW2 (we all do), you generously concede Jews “were less than 2% of the total.” If my math skills survive that means you’re saying less than 1 million Jews died (correct me if I’m wrong). I suppose my next question (after trying to think up ways to calm the Reichsminister at our next séance) is to ask what your source is?

    Remember Art, this is all about your proposition of “the Six Million Lie.”

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    “Some six million Jews still live in the East, and this question can only be solved by a biological extermination of the whole of Jewry in Europe. The Jewish Question will only be solved for Germany when the last Jew has left German territory, and for Europe when not a single Jew stands on the European continent as far as the Urals… And to this end it is necessary to force them beyond the Urals or otherwise bring about their eradication.”
    -Alfred Rosenberg, Reichsministerium für die besetzten Ostgebiete Reich (Minister for the Occupied Eastern Territories 1941-45) 1941

    Do you doubt Rosenberg? Didn’t Übermenschen always do what they said they’d do?
     
    Incitatus,

    Was he successful - were his plans achieved - NO.

    More and more people are fighting the Six Million Lie. They believe that the real number is 500,000 to 1,500,0oo Jew deaths. An truly ungodly number.

    It is unbelievable - but you Jews are now using those deaths to get more people killed. Shame shame!

    The question must be asked - what is it about the Jews character and the ever swirl of death around them?

    Art

    p.s. Incitatus – you little word traps prove nothing. We all know that in Europe your Six Million Lie must be enforced by the guns of law. Clear proof that it does not stand on its own.
  200. @Incitatus
    I confess I’m confused. OK, it happens more often as I age, but help me out.

    Art, you alleged I believed in “the Six Million Lie” (#162). I responded with a direct quote from a responsible party who was there - Reichsminister Albert Rosenberg (#170). Failing your response I obtained his shade’s advice for your benefit (#210). By the way Rosenberg wasn’t a” general” - he held NSDAP political office, a Ministry no less.

    You’ve dodged his words in all of your responses. Hence the source of my confusion. Was there a “Six Million Lie” Art? Was Rosenberg wrong?

    And now, as you mourn the 50± million dead in WW2 (we all do), you generously concede Jews “were less than 2% of the total.” If my math skills survive that means you’re saying less than 1 million Jews died (correct me if I’m wrong). I suppose my next question (after trying to think up ways to calm the Reichsminister at our next séance) is to ask what your source is?

    Remember Art, this is all about your proposition of “the Six Million Lie.”

    “Some six million Jews still live in the East, and this question can only be solved by a biological extermination of the whole of Jewry in Europe. The Jewish Question will only be solved for Germany when the last Jew has left German territory, and for Europe when not a single Jew stands on the European continent as far as the Urals… And to this end it is necessary to force them beyond the Urals or otherwise bring about their eradication.”
    -Alfred Rosenberg, Reichsministerium für die besetzten Ostgebiete Reich (Minister for the Occupied Eastern Territories 1941-45) 1941

    Do you doubt Rosenberg? Didn’t Übermenschen always do what they said they’d do?

    Incitatus,

    Was he successful – were his plans achieved – NO.

    More and more people are fighting the Six Million Lie. They believe that the real number is 500,000 to 1,500,0oo Jew deaths. An truly ungodly number.

    It is unbelievable – but you Jews are now using those deaths to get more people killed. Shame shame!

    The question must be asked – what is it about the Jews character and the ever swirl of death around them?

    Art

    p.s. Incitatus – you little word traps prove nothing. We all know that in Europe your Six Million Lie must be enforced by the guns of law. Clear proof that it does not stand on its own.

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  201. Thank you Art. You’ve finally mentioned what you believe. 500,000-1,500,000 Jews perished. And you admit it was “an ungodly number” (another thank you). I have no problem with your belief, though I strongly disagree on numbers. It’s a free country (for you and for me).

    Glass half full, glass half empty.

    Our exchange commenced when you asked/accused me of believing in the “the Six Million Lie.” Well, as the saying goes ‘What you do in your living room is your business: when you do it in my living room, well, then I’m forced to deal with it.’

    I’m just as skeptical as you (well, maybe not that skeptical). But It happens, after study I have no reason to disbelieve most sources in the documentation of 5.5-6.0 million Jews killed. And millions of Poles, Soviet POWs, Gypsies, etc. Death was on special at Walmart – a lot of people got the treatment.

    Nazis didn’t really like anybody. You name them, and they were probably somewhere on the kill list. Nazis really didn’t even like each other (read some of the accounts by upper leadership).

    I often see the assertions that fewer of one category or another died. Let me ask you: would Ted Bundy’s crime be less horrific if he killed one less person? Would it diminish his crime?

    The only reason numbers concern me is because such parsing is often no more than prelude to future diminishment and, too easily, presto – the crime never happened. I’m sure that’s not what you had in mind (?).

    Why do I care? I agree with American Justice Robert Jackson, chief prosecutor at Nüremberg:

    “The wrongs which we seek to condemn and punish have been so calculated, so malignant, and so devastating , that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored, because it cannot survive their being repeated.”

    It’s as simple as that.

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  202. Let’s talk about Russian influence

    Excellent article
    Read it all, it makes the points about the Israel Lobby and the Media,etc
    That Progressives often just haven’t the courage to deal with honestly
    from article:
    “No one talks about the hand of Israel; but Hillary Clinton promises her biggest donor, Haim Saban, whose one issue is Israel, that she’ll work against the boycott campaign and she’ll meet Benjamin Netanyahu in her first month of office: the same Netanyahu who tried to undermine our president’s signature foreign policy achievement by speaking and lobbying Congress under the president’s nose, Netanyahu who said that America could be easily moved, Netanyahu who pushed the Iraq war in 2002 to transform the Middle East, even as Hillary Clinton was voting for that war.
    The latest batch of Clinton emails show that then-Secretary of State Clinton was shuffling her schedule to meet with big Clinton Foundation donors who care about Israel. “I’m on shuttle w Avigdor Liberman…. I want to stop by to see hrc tonite for 10 mins,” wrote one of them.
    When Donald Trump tried to take a “neutral” position on Israel, Hillary Clinton told the leading Israel lobby group AIPAC that he had “no business” being president and she was going to take the relationship with Israel “to the next level.”
    When Bernie Sanders tried to stake out a neutral position on Israel, Clinton’s catspaw at the DNC, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, complained privately, “The Israel stuff is disturbing.” Or as Anne Lewis, Clinton’s political guru who is also a Zionist, said, “The role of the president of the United States is to support the decisions that are made by the people of Israel.”
    - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/about-russian-influence/

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