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As noted previously, support for Trump among young white men is markedly higher than identification with the Republican party is. This is less the case with older men and even less so still with women, where support for Trump closely tracks Republican party identification:

Put in another way, it appears as though younger white men will become more supportive of the GOP in general if it moves in a Trumpian direction. If instead the party establishment continues to move Trump its way, it’s difficult to see where any growth in Republican support is going to come from. The prediction that Trump ends up being the last Republican president ever elected increasingly looks like a good one.

 
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  1. The near 20 gender point gap between Millennial/Zeds is damning. Hard to say if this is entirely down to Trump’s personality, as similar chasms have been observed in UK polling.

  2. OT but a weird graph. Woman tend to be slightly more anti-feminist than pro-feminist in America; though Asians are the other way around.

    https://goo.gl/images/MGdZiu

    I wonder what it would look like broken down by cohort.

  3. Among white me, approval for Trump is essentially identical across age groups while GOP party ID peaks at 50-64. How much of that is simply a function of increased party ID as men age rather than any gap between Trumpism vs. establishment Republicanism?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    None of it, at least according to this poll, surprisingly. The share of white men who identify most as "independent" is stable across age cohorts. That's not what I've seen elsewhere, but it does show up here. I included the independent percentages in anticipation of this point being raised.
  4. Serious question: What the heck IS Trumpism?

    I’m 25, semi-rural, and have a bachelor’s degree (whoop dee freaking doo). Impressed by a few things after his presidency began, I supported “Trumpism” to a large degree until the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre of 2019.

    Now I’m back to where I was in 2016, when he slavishly spoke at AIPAC: “Trumpism” looks like Zionist BoomerCon Reaganism crap, warmed up with a just bit of pro-Rust Belt trade deal politicking.

    He may have lost my vote.

    But, if I know Republicans, when election time comes around in 2020, the partisan fevers will heat up, and everyone will tell me that I just have to suck it up and vote for the Republican, even though it sure looks like the Republican has stabbed us in our demographic back once again.

    • Replies: @iffen
    Serious question: What the heck IS Trumpism?

    Serious question: In the year 2021, would you prefer to have President Trump or President Harris?
    , @Anonymous
    Trump talked a good game but then brought in the worst possible people. Pence, Haley, Bolton, Pompeo, Coates, et al. So, either he’s pulled a fast one and told us what we wanted to hear during the election and then betrayed us or Deep State/Establishment is in complete control. Either way it’s preferable to end the GOP and let the radicals take over the controls and run it into the ground. Worse is better. The sooner the U.S. can’t operate hundreds of military bases and threaten war all over the world the better for everyone. The sooner this financialized economy ends and the money-shifters and ruling class no longer have the means of control the better.
    , @Charles Pewitt

    He may have lost my vote.

     

    I voted for Trump, and I won't do that again.

    Trump is a politician whore for Jew billionaire Shelly Adelson.

    Shelly Adelson puts the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States -- so does Trump.

    Shelly Adelson pushes mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders -- so does Trump.

    Trump must be challenged in the 2020 GOP presidential primary by a candidate who will openly advance the interests of White Core American Patriots.
  5. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Serious question: What the heck IS Trumpism?

    I'm 25, semi-rural, and have a bachelor's degree (whoop dee freaking doo). Impressed by a few things after his presidency began, I supported "Trumpism" to a large degree until the St. Valentine's Day Massacre of 2019.

    Now I'm back to where I was in 2016, when he slavishly spoke at AIPAC: "Trumpism" looks like Zionist BoomerCon Reaganism crap, warmed up with a just bit of pro-Rust Belt trade deal politicking.

    He may have lost my vote.

    But, if I know Republicans, when election time comes around in 2020, the partisan fevers will heat up, and everyone will tell me that I just have to suck it up and vote for the Republican, even though it sure looks like the Republican has stabbed us in our demographic back once again.

    Serious question: What the heck IS Trumpism?

    Serious question: In the year 2021, would you prefer to have President Trump or President Harris?

    • Disagree: Hail
    • Replies: @John Gruskos

    would you prefer to have President Trump or President Harris?
     
    Serious answer: It makes no difference whatsoever.

    Trump, like all Republicans, pretends to support American national interests and Christian cultural interests, while enthusiastically advancing Wall Street's economic interests and Israel's foreign policy interests.

    Harris, like all Democrats, pretends to support peace and economic justice, while enthusiastically pushing an anti-American national agenda and an anti-Christian cultural agenda.

    In reality, the Democrats and Republicans, including Trump, form a uni-party whose platform consists of four planks:

    1. Anti-American immigration and national policy.
    2. Anti-Christian cultural policy.
    3. Wall-Street First economic policy.
    4. Israel First foreign policy.

    Opposition to the first two planks is harmlessly channeled into support for the "Republican" wing of the uni-party, just as opposition to plutocracy and warmongering is harmlessly channeled into support for the "Democratic" wing of the uni-party.

    The entity calling itself "The Government of the United States of America" is fundamentally illegitimate. Almost every single thing it does is unconstitutional, violating the preamble with its hostility to "ourselves and our posterity", and the 10th amendment with its intrusive social engineering.

    The entity calling itself "The Government of the United States of America" exists merely to implement decisions already made by the true rulers of this country, the ADL.

    That is why all of the most shameful congressional resolutions are passed unanimously and with the support of Trump.

    That is why Trump has completely ditched the immigration platform he adopted in August 2015, the platform on which he was elected, and instead now insists he wants "more immigration than ever before".

    , @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Well, I certainly suppose I'd prefer to have President Trump.

    But guess what, pal? YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION! All caps necessary. You have 100% failed to answer the question. The question was, What is Trumpism?

    Let be more pointed: Is Trumpism anything other than a lazy repeat of the same boomer con crap that has directly put us in the position where Kamala Harris is a viable POTUS candidate?

    Will you answer either of those questions?

    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    It's becoming quite clear that it doesn't matter who holds the position.
  6. @iffen
    Serious question: What the heck IS Trumpism?

    Serious question: In the year 2021, would you prefer to have President Trump or President Harris?

    would you prefer to have President Trump or President Harris?

    Serious answer: It makes no difference whatsoever.

    Trump, like all Republicans, pretends to support American national interests and Christian cultural interests, while enthusiastically advancing Wall Street’s economic interests and Israel’s foreign policy interests.

    Harris, like all Democrats, pretends to support peace and economic justice, while enthusiastically pushing an anti-American national agenda and an anti-Christian cultural agenda.

    In reality, the Democrats and Republicans, including Trump, form a uni-party whose platform consists of four planks:

    1. Anti-American immigration and national policy.
    2. Anti-Christian cultural policy.
    3. Wall-Street First economic policy.
    4. Israel First foreign policy.

    Opposition to the first two planks is harmlessly channeled into support for the “Republican” wing of the uni-party, just as opposition to plutocracy and warmongering is harmlessly channeled into support for the “Democratic” wing of the uni-party.

    The entity calling itself “The Government of the United States of America” is fundamentally illegitimate. Almost every single thing it does is unconstitutional, violating the preamble with its hostility to “ourselves and our posterity”, and the 10th amendment with its intrusive social engineering.

    The entity calling itself “The Government of the United States of America” exists merely to implement decisions already made by the true rulers of this country, the ADL.

    That is why all of the most shameful congressional resolutions are passed unanimously and with the support of Trump.

    That is why Trump has completely ditched the immigration platform he adopted in August 2015, the platform on which he was elected, and instead now insists he wants “more immigration than ever before”.

    • Agree: Haxo Angmark
    • Disagree: iffen
    • Replies: @follyofwar
    They don't call the Republicans the "Stupid Party" for nothin'.

    Its shameless support for Israel, FOR ALL TIME, demonstrates how out of touch the Rubio wing of the party is. How many of us true conservative men and women are disgusted by Rubio's anti-BDS, anti-Free Speech, amendment, which all GOP Senators, save Rand Paul, voted for? And how many of us are disgusted over Netanyahu's campaign stop in the Imperial City, in which the GOP gave him 29 standing ovations in what is supposed to be the "People's House?" (I know, many Democrats did too, but it was a GOP initiative, and several Dems, including then President Obama, refused to attend). Rand was even called out for not clapping enthusiastically enough!

    We Woke White conservatives are sick and tired of being thrown under the bus by politicians like Trump, who speak with forked-tongue. The lyin' GOP deserves everything that is coming to them.

    , @Tony
    Get real. Trump is still the best bet this country has. Fat chance you'll get anybody more conservative in office unless Pence takes over and even he might not be that conservative. Harris will give us open borders, more obamacare type programs, and liberal supreme court justices. No thanks.
    , @anonymous
    Does anyone think Trump actually has a say in the matter? Or is the Presidency just a ceremonial sort of thing, with the power behind the scenes making the policy decisions?

    I feel in my gut that Trump wants to do certain things but just isn't able. I think the man is being threatened or blackmailed. It sounds silly, but these 'Deep State' people have a mission and they play hardball... I wouldn't put anything past them.

    The day Trump went to the White House to get a briefing with Obama, after the election, he came out of the meeting looking deflated and like he'd just seen a ghost. I think that was when he got the news that he was only a junior partner.
  7. % supporting Trump is highest in 18-34 (which itself seems odd) but % ID as Republican and %ID as Independent are both lowest in 18-34. Who the hell is supporting Trump in that age bracket, %ID as democrats?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    A lot of independents, more than for other age and sex cohorts.
  8. @John Gruskos

    would you prefer to have President Trump or President Harris?
     
    Serious answer: It makes no difference whatsoever.

    Trump, like all Republicans, pretends to support American national interests and Christian cultural interests, while enthusiastically advancing Wall Street's economic interests and Israel's foreign policy interests.

    Harris, like all Democrats, pretends to support peace and economic justice, while enthusiastically pushing an anti-American national agenda and an anti-Christian cultural agenda.

    In reality, the Democrats and Republicans, including Trump, form a uni-party whose platform consists of four planks:

    1. Anti-American immigration and national policy.
    2. Anti-Christian cultural policy.
    3. Wall-Street First economic policy.
    4. Israel First foreign policy.

    Opposition to the first two planks is harmlessly channeled into support for the "Republican" wing of the uni-party, just as opposition to plutocracy and warmongering is harmlessly channeled into support for the "Democratic" wing of the uni-party.

    The entity calling itself "The Government of the United States of America" is fundamentally illegitimate. Almost every single thing it does is unconstitutional, violating the preamble with its hostility to "ourselves and our posterity", and the 10th amendment with its intrusive social engineering.

    The entity calling itself "The Government of the United States of America" exists merely to implement decisions already made by the true rulers of this country, the ADL.

    That is why all of the most shameful congressional resolutions are passed unanimously and with the support of Trump.

    That is why Trump has completely ditched the immigration platform he adopted in August 2015, the platform on which he was elected, and instead now insists he wants "more immigration than ever before".

    They don’t call the Republicans the “Stupid Party” for nothin’.

    Its shameless support for Israel, FOR ALL TIME, demonstrates how out of touch the Rubio wing of the party is. How many of us true conservative men and women are disgusted by Rubio’s anti-BDS, anti-Free Speech, amendment, which all GOP Senators, save Rand Paul, voted for? And how many of us are disgusted over Netanyahu’s campaign stop in the Imperial City, in which the GOP gave him 29 standing ovations in what is supposed to be the “People’s House?” (I know, many Democrats did too, but it was a GOP initiative, and several Dems, including then President Obama, refused to attend). Rand was even called out for not clapping enthusiastically enough!

    We Woke White conservatives are sick and tired of being thrown under the bus by politicians like Trump, who speak with forked-tongue. The lyin’ GOP deserves everything that is coming to them.

  9. @iffen
    Serious question: What the heck IS Trumpism?

    Serious question: In the year 2021, would you prefer to have President Trump or President Harris?

    Well, I certainly suppose I’d prefer to have President Trump.

    But guess what, pal? YOU DIDN’T ANSWER THE QUESTION! All caps necessary. You have 100% failed to answer the question. The question was, What is Trumpism?

    Let be more pointed: Is Trumpism anything other than a lazy repeat of the same boomer con crap that has directly put us in the position where Kamala Harris is a viable POTUS candidate?

    Will you answer either of those questions?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Trumpism is, to a first approximation, the president that Trump campaigned to be as opposed to the president he has been.
    , @iffen
    Will you answer either of those questions?

    It’s early yet, but for me Trumpism is the Hail Mary of the white working class. It is a chance to wrestle the Republican Party away from the sewer pond scum Republicans like Romney and the Koch brothers. Trumpism may be the beginning of the end.

    Is Trumpism anything other than a lazy repeat of the same boomer con crap that has directly put us in the position where Kamala Harris is a viable POTUS candidate?

    I think that there is a qualitative difference. The Borg certainly agrees.

    It's a Hail Mary from the Not So Great Generation.
  10. President Harris is the accelerationist candidate of choice.

  11. Rubio is my worst Republican, especialy now that John McCain is dead. Besides being an extreme neocon I despise him for doubling the child tax credit. I got a $500 tax refund while the women I work with who have multiple children all from different baby daddies are getting $10,000 refunds. I am not exaggerating. Yet none of those single moms will vote Republican no matter what.

  12. @Twinkie
    Among white me, approval for Trump is essentially identical across age groups while GOP party ID peaks at 50-64. How much of that is simply a function of increased party ID as men age rather than any gap between Trumpism vs. establishment Republicanism?

    None of it, at least according to this poll, surprisingly. The share of white men who identify most as “independent” is stable across age cohorts. That’s not what I’ve seen elsewhere, but it does show up here. I included the independent percentages in anticipation of this point being raised.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    I included the independent percentages in anticipation of this point being raised.
     
    Further clarity on this would be provided if "Disapproves Trump" and Democratic party-ID showed similar pattern.
  13. @Lars Porsena
    % supporting Trump is highest in 18-34 (which itself seems odd) but % ID as Republican and %ID as Independent are both lowest in 18-34. Who the hell is supporting Trump in that age bracket, %ID as democrats?

    A lot of independents, more than for other age and sex cohorts.

  14. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Well, I certainly suppose I'd prefer to have President Trump.

    But guess what, pal? YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION! All caps necessary. You have 100% failed to answer the question. The question was, What is Trumpism?

    Let be more pointed: Is Trumpism anything other than a lazy repeat of the same boomer con crap that has directly put us in the position where Kamala Harris is a viable POTUS candidate?

    Will you answer either of those questions?

    Trumpism is, to a first approximation, the president that Trump campaigned to be as opposed to the president he has been.

  15. It’s the same dilemma in Canada.

    Do I vote for the Boomercon “Conservative Party”? Slightly tougher on terror and crime, a few less refugees, slightly better quality immigrants, and I know they will leave the gun legislation alone. They have the best chance of winning.

    OR, do I support the populist People’s Party? Economic deregulation, libertarian (not necessarily a good thing), but also a huge cut to the number of immigrants coming in and anti-cultural Marxist?

    Keep in mind, a vote for the latter is a vote taken away from the former, AKA another vote split in favour of PM Trudeau. Who do you choose?

    It’s the problem with our electoral systems. We are constantly forced to go with “the best of the worst”. I suppose that once the Boomers die off, they might actually start caring about young white voters like myself. But right now, White Boomers have all the money, all the power, and all the numbers, so they are the main target. When the White Boomers die, whites will be a complete minority, so our voting system will no longer work anyways.

    We’re screwed. Thanks Boomers.

    • Replies: @Talha
    Couple of points:
    1) And they are trying to export this crap to the rest of the world using sanctions and at the barrel of a gun? What the hell?
    2) I always thought the parliamentary system worked better than what we have in the US with the dual party system. At least if there is more fracturing, then perhaps you can work on getting coalitions that are fixed and committed toward certain mutually shared goals. Like the two parties you mentioned; if both of them want to clamp down on immigration and that is the most important issue for someone, then a vote for one or the other is quibbling over details, but at least supporting the same main policies. Sometimes you can get weird coalitions - like Left-labor parties aligning with the Right because they are worried about workers getting swamped by cheap immigrant labor. Am I misunderstanding how it works in Canada?

    Peace.
    , @216
    What riding do you reside in?
    , @ogunsiron
    Somewhat OT but not too much: What do you think of Rob Ford's government?
    Rob seems to be slowly, quietly but decisively governing as a rightwing populist. Trump failed to do that. Ford has been ridiculing journalists. He's been passing laws designed to protect conservatives in university and to defund communists there. I believe he's also moving against tranny sex education and the like. Is that an accurate perception of Ford Nation's rule so far?
  16. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    It's the same dilemma in Canada.

    Do I vote for the Boomercon "Conservative Party"? Slightly tougher on terror and crime, a few less refugees, slightly better quality immigrants, and I know they will leave the gun legislation alone. They have the best chance of winning.

    OR, do I support the populist People's Party? Economic deregulation, libertarian (not necessarily a good thing), but also a huge cut to the number of immigrants coming in and anti-cultural Marxist?

    Keep in mind, a vote for the latter is a vote taken away from the former, AKA another vote split in favour of PM Trudeau. Who do you choose?

    It's the problem with our electoral systems. We are constantly forced to go with "the best of the worst". I suppose that once the Boomers die off, they might actually start caring about young white voters like myself. But right now, White Boomers have all the money, all the power, and all the numbers, so they are the main target. When the White Boomers die, whites will be a complete minority, so our voting system will no longer work anyways.

    We're screwed. Thanks Boomers.

    Couple of points:
    1) And they are trying to export this crap to the rest of the world using sanctions and at the barrel of a gun? What the hell?
    2) I always thought the parliamentary system worked better than what we have in the US with the dual party system. At least if there is more fracturing, then perhaps you can work on getting coalitions that are fixed and committed toward certain mutually shared goals. Like the two parties you mentioned; if both of them want to clamp down on immigration and that is the most important issue for someone, then a vote for one or the other is quibbling over details, but at least supporting the same main policies. Sometimes you can get weird coalitions – like Left-labor parties aligning with the Right because they are worried about workers getting swamped by cheap immigrant labor. Am I misunderstanding how it works in Canada?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @216
    Canada and the UK are FPTP single member districts like the US, but without the elected upper house. OZ is single member districts for the lower House, with ranked choice voting, and a different system for the upper House. The lower house is mostly two-party, but minor parties are frequent in the upper house. NZ is MMP, single-member districts and party list MPs.

    Cross party coalitions are unusual, as "free votes" are not common. The party whip is much tighter in the parliamentary system. In the US, there isn't much that Kevin McCarthy can do to force someone to vote his way, aside from raising millions for a primary challenger. In the UK, Theresa May can expel anyone that annoys her from the Conservative Party.

    In the same vein, the parliamentary caucus can "parachute" in women/non-white candidates. McCarthy can't do this, even though he logically should retire and endorse a Hispanic successor. Events like the traitorous Sens. McCain and Inouye hanging on to the point of senility until death would not be allowed in the parliamentary system.

    What you are thinking of is more along the lines of a full proportional system as found in Israel, Netherlands, Scandinavia. Smaller parties have a greater deal of leverage because no party typically wins a majority alone.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    At least if there is more fracturing, then perhaps you can work on getting coalitions that are fixed and committed toward certain mutually shared goals.
     
    The problem is that minority governments are rare. Right now PM Trudeau has a majority government (>50% of the seats) so he can pass anything he wants. The only thing the opposition can do it bitch and moan. The whips control the party tightly so defections almost never happen.

    Last time there was a minority government, the 4 left wing parties (Liberal, NDP, Green, Bloc Québecois) ganged up on the Conseratives and tried to overrule. The Cons hung on.

    The minority government before that, the Conservatives and the left of center parties ganged up and voted out the Liberal party. Minority governments bring nothing but dysfunction and constant elections. Majority governments are tyranny.

    Trudeau's Liberals received 38% of the popular vote yet have an absolute majority. The Harper Conservatives enjoyed the same with 39%.

    Like the two parties you mentioned; if both of them want to clamp down on immigration and that is the most important issue for someone, then a vote for one or the other is quibbling over details, but at least supporting the same main policies.
     

    They will just cannibalize each other's votes and end up losing to the Liberal candidates who don't split the votes.

    Sometimes you can get weird coalitions – like Left-labor parties aligning with the Right because they are worried about workers getting swamped by cheap immigrant labor.
     
    ALL the parties support mass immigration. The Harper Conservatives ramped up immigration and introduced the Temporary Foreign Worker VISA. Trudeau ramped up all kinds of immigration to a new level. The "socialist" "pro labour" NDP is run by a lunatic Sikh who wants no borders at all! Only the right-libertarian (new) People's Party will reduce immigration to PRE TRUDEAU levels (aka sky high). Of course, white people not having enough babies are heavily to blame for this current situation. The fertility has been below replacement since 1974, which is another topic altogether.
  17. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    It's the same dilemma in Canada.

    Do I vote for the Boomercon "Conservative Party"? Slightly tougher on terror and crime, a few less refugees, slightly better quality immigrants, and I know they will leave the gun legislation alone. They have the best chance of winning.

    OR, do I support the populist People's Party? Economic deregulation, libertarian (not necessarily a good thing), but also a huge cut to the number of immigrants coming in and anti-cultural Marxist?

    Keep in mind, a vote for the latter is a vote taken away from the former, AKA another vote split in favour of PM Trudeau. Who do you choose?

    It's the problem with our electoral systems. We are constantly forced to go with "the best of the worst". I suppose that once the Boomers die off, they might actually start caring about young white voters like myself. But right now, White Boomers have all the money, all the power, and all the numbers, so they are the main target. When the White Boomers die, whites will be a complete minority, so our voting system will no longer work anyways.

    We're screwed. Thanks Boomers.

    What riding do you reside in?

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    I am currently residing in the fabulous riding of Essex - rural white people who vote for the NDP!

    Are you a Canuck too?
  18. @Talha
    Couple of points:
    1) And they are trying to export this crap to the rest of the world using sanctions and at the barrel of a gun? What the hell?
    2) I always thought the parliamentary system worked better than what we have in the US with the dual party system. At least if there is more fracturing, then perhaps you can work on getting coalitions that are fixed and committed toward certain mutually shared goals. Like the two parties you mentioned; if both of them want to clamp down on immigration and that is the most important issue for someone, then a vote for one or the other is quibbling over details, but at least supporting the same main policies. Sometimes you can get weird coalitions - like Left-labor parties aligning with the Right because they are worried about workers getting swamped by cheap immigrant labor. Am I misunderstanding how it works in Canada?

    Peace.

    Canada and the UK are FPTP single member districts like the US, but without the elected upper house. OZ is single member districts for the lower House, with ranked choice voting, and a different system for the upper House. The lower house is mostly two-party, but minor parties are frequent in the upper house. NZ is MMP, single-member districts and party list MPs.

    Cross party coalitions are unusual, as “free votes” are not common. The party whip is much tighter in the parliamentary system. In the US, there isn’t much that Kevin McCarthy can do to force someone to vote his way, aside from raising millions for a primary challenger. In the UK, Theresa May can expel anyone that annoys her from the Conservative Party.

    In the same vein, the parliamentary caucus can “parachute” in women/non-white candidates. McCarthy can’t do this, even though he logically should retire and endorse a Hispanic successor. Events like the traitorous Sens. McCain and Inouye hanging on to the point of senility until death would not be allowed in the parliamentary system.

    What you are thinking of is more along the lines of a full proportional system as found in Israel, Netherlands, Scandinavia. Smaller parties have a greater deal of leverage because no party typically wins a majority alone.

    • Replies: @Talha

    What you are thinking of is more along the lines of a full proportional system
     
    Yes - OK - I was thinking along these lines since most of those countries legislatures are often also translated as "parliament".

    Much thanks for the clarification!

    Peace.
  19. Being an old Deplorable at 74 years and not being a Republican I have been curious about these numbers. So thank you. And thank you for another opportunity for me to say:

    Never Trump Republicans have no future in American electoral politics.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  20. @216
    Canada and the UK are FPTP single member districts like the US, but without the elected upper house. OZ is single member districts for the lower House, with ranked choice voting, and a different system for the upper House. The lower house is mostly two-party, but minor parties are frequent in the upper house. NZ is MMP, single-member districts and party list MPs.

    Cross party coalitions are unusual, as "free votes" are not common. The party whip is much tighter in the parliamentary system. In the US, there isn't much that Kevin McCarthy can do to force someone to vote his way, aside from raising millions for a primary challenger. In the UK, Theresa May can expel anyone that annoys her from the Conservative Party.

    In the same vein, the parliamentary caucus can "parachute" in women/non-white candidates. McCarthy can't do this, even though he logically should retire and endorse a Hispanic successor. Events like the traitorous Sens. McCain and Inouye hanging on to the point of senility until death would not be allowed in the parliamentary system.

    What you are thinking of is more along the lines of a full proportional system as found in Israel, Netherlands, Scandinavia. Smaller parties have a greater deal of leverage because no party typically wins a majority alone.

    What you are thinking of is more along the lines of a full proportional system

    Yes – OK – I was thinking along these lines since most of those countries legislatures are often also translated as “parliament”.

    Much thanks for the clarification!

    Peace.

  21. @iffen
    Serious question: What the heck IS Trumpism?

    Serious question: In the year 2021, would you prefer to have President Trump or President Harris?

    It’s becoming quite clear that it doesn’t matter who holds the position.

  22. @Talha
    Couple of points:
    1) And they are trying to export this crap to the rest of the world using sanctions and at the barrel of a gun? What the hell?
    2) I always thought the parliamentary system worked better than what we have in the US with the dual party system. At least if there is more fracturing, then perhaps you can work on getting coalitions that are fixed and committed toward certain mutually shared goals. Like the two parties you mentioned; if both of them want to clamp down on immigration and that is the most important issue for someone, then a vote for one or the other is quibbling over details, but at least supporting the same main policies. Sometimes you can get weird coalitions - like Left-labor parties aligning with the Right because they are worried about workers getting swamped by cheap immigrant labor. Am I misunderstanding how it works in Canada?

    Peace.

    At least if there is more fracturing, then perhaps you can work on getting coalitions that are fixed and committed toward certain mutually shared goals.

    The problem is that minority governments are rare. Right now PM Trudeau has a majority government (>50% of the seats) so he can pass anything he wants. The only thing the opposition can do it bitch and moan. The whips control the party tightly so defections almost never happen.

    Last time there was a minority government, the 4 left wing parties (Liberal, NDP, Green, Bloc Québecois) ganged up on the Conseratives and tried to overrule. The Cons hung on.

    The minority government before that, the Conservatives and the left of center parties ganged up and voted out the Liberal party. Minority governments bring nothing but dysfunction and constant elections. Majority governments are tyranny.

    Trudeau’s Liberals received 38% of the popular vote yet have an absolute majority. The Harper Conservatives enjoyed the same with 39%.

    Like the two parties you mentioned; if both of them want to clamp down on immigration and that is the most important issue for someone, then a vote for one or the other is quibbling over details, but at least supporting the same main policies.

    They will just cannibalize each other’s votes and end up losing to the Liberal candidates who don’t split the votes.

    Sometimes you can get weird coalitions – like Left-labor parties aligning with the Right because they are worried about workers getting swamped by cheap immigrant labor.

    ALL the parties support mass immigration. The Harper Conservatives ramped up immigration and introduced the Temporary Foreign Worker VISA. Trudeau ramped up all kinds of immigration to a new level. The “socialist” “pro labour” NDP is run by a lunatic Sikh who wants no borders at all! Only the right-libertarian (new) People’s Party will reduce immigration to PRE TRUDEAU levels (aka sky high). Of course, white people not having enough babies are heavily to blame for this current situation. The fertility has been below replacement since 1974, which is another topic altogether.

    • Replies: @Talha
    Much thanks to you for the details as well. It's good to know how other systems work.

    ALL the parties support mass immigration.
     
    Oh crap!!! Did not know this - I guess I misread more optimism into your previous post.

    The fertility has been below replacement since 1974, which is another topic altogether.
     
    Definitely have to fix that.

    Peace.
  23. @216
    What riding do you reside in?

    I am currently residing in the fabulous riding of Essex – rural white people who vote for the NDP!

    Are you a Canuck too?

    • Replies: @216
    Area code 216 is for Cleveland, Ohio so on the other side of Lake Erie. I'm a resident of Congressional District 16 in Ohio.

    From the returns in the Essex riding, it appears the provincial NDP is stronger than the federal NDP, a weird reverse of the pattern observed in Michigan.

    As this riding is marginal, a vote for the Conservative Party is the most useful.

    It also might help to become a member of the Conservative Party and the Ontario PC Party, where you could organize with other party members to promote immigration restriction. Bernier's party isn't likely to win any seats this year, other than perhaps re-electing Bernier in Quebec. Should it ever win any seats, they are likely to first show up in QC and AB. So becoming a PP member would not be an effective use of resources.

    Is Bernier going to organize his party at the provincial level or federal-only?
  24. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Serious question: What the heck IS Trumpism?

    I'm 25, semi-rural, and have a bachelor's degree (whoop dee freaking doo). Impressed by a few things after his presidency began, I supported "Trumpism" to a large degree until the St. Valentine's Day Massacre of 2019.

    Now I'm back to where I was in 2016, when he slavishly spoke at AIPAC: "Trumpism" looks like Zionist BoomerCon Reaganism crap, warmed up with a just bit of pro-Rust Belt trade deal politicking.

    He may have lost my vote.

    But, if I know Republicans, when election time comes around in 2020, the partisan fevers will heat up, and everyone will tell me that I just have to suck it up and vote for the Republican, even though it sure looks like the Republican has stabbed us in our demographic back once again.

    Trump talked a good game but then brought in the worst possible people. Pence, Haley, Bolton, Pompeo, Coates, et al. So, either he’s pulled a fast one and told us what we wanted to hear during the election and then betrayed us or Deep State/Establishment is in complete control. Either way it’s preferable to end the GOP and let the radicals take over the controls and run it into the ground. Worse is better. The sooner the U.S. can’t operate hundreds of military bases and threaten war all over the world the better for everyone. The sooner this financialized economy ends and the money-shifters and ruling class no longer have the means of control the better.

  25. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Well, I certainly suppose I'd prefer to have President Trump.

    But guess what, pal? YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION! All caps necessary. You have 100% failed to answer the question. The question was, What is Trumpism?

    Let be more pointed: Is Trumpism anything other than a lazy repeat of the same boomer con crap that has directly put us in the position where Kamala Harris is a viable POTUS candidate?

    Will you answer either of those questions?

    Will you answer either of those questions?

    It’s early yet, but for me Trumpism is the Hail Mary of the white working class. It is a chance to wrestle the Republican Party away from the sewer pond scum Republicans like Romney and the Koch brothers. Trumpism may be the beginning of the end.

    Is Trumpism anything other than a lazy repeat of the same boomer con crap that has directly put us in the position where Kamala Harris is a viable POTUS candidate?

    I think that there is a qualitative difference. The Borg certainly agrees.

    It’s a Hail Mary from the Not So Great Generation.

  26. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    At least if there is more fracturing, then perhaps you can work on getting coalitions that are fixed and committed toward certain mutually shared goals.
     
    The problem is that minority governments are rare. Right now PM Trudeau has a majority government (>50% of the seats) so he can pass anything he wants. The only thing the opposition can do it bitch and moan. The whips control the party tightly so defections almost never happen.

    Last time there was a minority government, the 4 left wing parties (Liberal, NDP, Green, Bloc Québecois) ganged up on the Conseratives and tried to overrule. The Cons hung on.

    The minority government before that, the Conservatives and the left of center parties ganged up and voted out the Liberal party. Minority governments bring nothing but dysfunction and constant elections. Majority governments are tyranny.

    Trudeau's Liberals received 38% of the popular vote yet have an absolute majority. The Harper Conservatives enjoyed the same with 39%.

    Like the two parties you mentioned; if both of them want to clamp down on immigration and that is the most important issue for someone, then a vote for one or the other is quibbling over details, but at least supporting the same main policies.
     

    They will just cannibalize each other's votes and end up losing to the Liberal candidates who don't split the votes.

    Sometimes you can get weird coalitions – like Left-labor parties aligning with the Right because they are worried about workers getting swamped by cheap immigrant labor.
     
    ALL the parties support mass immigration. The Harper Conservatives ramped up immigration and introduced the Temporary Foreign Worker VISA. Trudeau ramped up all kinds of immigration to a new level. The "socialist" "pro labour" NDP is run by a lunatic Sikh who wants no borders at all! Only the right-libertarian (new) People's Party will reduce immigration to PRE TRUDEAU levels (aka sky high). Of course, white people not having enough babies are heavily to blame for this current situation. The fertility has been below replacement since 1974, which is another topic altogether.

    Much thanks to you for the details as well. It’s good to know how other systems work.

    ALL the parties support mass immigration.

    Oh crap!!! Did not know this – I guess I misread more optimism into your previous post.

    The fertility has been below replacement since 1974, which is another topic altogether.

    Definitely have to fix that.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha

    Definitely have to fix that.
     
    I have kind of a personal stake in this. Being a fan of ice hockey (the greatest sport invented by man, ever) - I need you guys to keep churning out the guys that might still break records held by guys like Messier, Gretzky and Lemieux, etc. Somehow, I don't think Khans, Nguyens and Singhs are up to it - could be wrong.

    Ah - ice hockey (as a comedian once observed) the only sport where it's still legit for a bunch of white guys to play on a shiny white surface, competing with each other by slapping around something black with sticks.

    Peace.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Definitely have to fix that.
     
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/760332/sperm-donor-wants-to-father-2500-kids-joe-donor-60-minutes

    This guy might give some of the more "excited" guys at unz.com some ideas...

    I don’t think Khans, Nguyens and Singhs are up to it
     
    Hockey is a sport for whites. There are a few blacks. But 2 things keep minorities away. 1. Cost. The cost for hockey is so high now that only people who have a family history in the sport will sign up (white people). 2. Temperature. White kids will play for hours on outdoor rinks in subzero temperatures. I can't say I have anything against nonwhites in the sport, they're generally just not interested.

    Nonwhites will never play hockey. That said, the usual suspects are pushing for women to play hockey instead, and for the honourable 'code' and fighting to be phased out. Can't get away from these people.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Definitely have to fix that.
     
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/760332/sperm-donor-wants-to-father-2500-kids-joe-donor-60-minutes

    This guy might give some of the more "excited" guys at unz.com some ideas...

    I don’t think Khans, Nguyens and Singhs are up to it
     
    Hockey is a sport for whites. There are a few blacks. But 2 things keep minorities away. 1. Cost. The cost for hockey is so high now that only people who have a family history in the sport will sign up (white people). 2. Temperature. White kids will play for hours on outdoor rinks in subzero temperatures. I can't say I have anything against nonwhites in the sport, they're generally just not interested.

    Nonwhites will never play hockey. That said, the usual suspects are pushing for women to play hockey instead, and for the honourable 'code' and fighting to be phased out. Can't get away from these people.
  27. @Talha
    Much thanks to you for the details as well. It's good to know how other systems work.

    ALL the parties support mass immigration.
     
    Oh crap!!! Did not know this - I guess I misread more optimism into your previous post.

    The fertility has been below replacement since 1974, which is another topic altogether.
     
    Definitely have to fix that.

    Peace.

    Definitely have to fix that.

    I have kind of a personal stake in this. Being a fan of ice hockey (the greatest sport invented by man, ever) – I need you guys to keep churning out the guys that might still break records held by guys like Messier, Gretzky and Lemieux, etc. Somehow, I don’t think Khans, Nguyens and Singhs are up to it – could be wrong.

    Ah – ice hockey (as a comedian once observed) the only sport where it’s still legit for a bunch of white guys to play on a shiny white surface, competing with each other by slapping around something black with sticks.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    But the Ovechkins can.
  28. @Talha

    Definitely have to fix that.
     
    I have kind of a personal stake in this. Being a fan of ice hockey (the greatest sport invented by man, ever) - I need you guys to keep churning out the guys that might still break records held by guys like Messier, Gretzky and Lemieux, etc. Somehow, I don't think Khans, Nguyens and Singhs are up to it - could be wrong.

    Ah - ice hockey (as a comedian once observed) the only sport where it's still legit for a bunch of white guys to play on a shiny white surface, competing with each other by slapping around something black with sticks.

    Peace.

    But the Ovechkins can.

    • Replies: @Talha
    Yeah and there were greats like Jagr and Federov and Kurri - but aren't they all White? That was my point.

    Peace.
  29. @Anonymous
    But the Ovechkins can.

    Yeah and there were greats like Jagr and Federov and Kurri – but aren’t they all White? That was my point.

    Peace.

  30. 2016: ‘Murka = c. 40% Jews/Blacks/Browns/Yellows….60% Whites

    2020: ‘Murka = c. 43% Jews/Blacks/Browns/Yellows…57% Whites

    2024: ‘Murka = c. 46% Jews/Blacks/Browns/Yellows…54% Whites

    we are rapidly running out of demographic time. And

    all the execrable, Jew-owned Trump has done is

    throw a wet blanket over the WhiteRight,

    while vastly energizing the JudeoEthnicLeft.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    Only 46% of white women voters* went for (campaign) Trump if this article is to be believed. The logic seems fair to me.

    http://time.com/5422644/trump-white-women-2016/

    Worse, Trump won only 35% of college-educated white women*, whose shares of the electorate will have increased just as the share on non-college-educated will have diminished.

    With Florida now allowing inmates to vote, and the demographic changes that you have highlighted, it seems that the next election is basically impossible for the Republicans to win.

    This is why facts on the ground need to change. A third party run by a supposed globalist would do this, but since this is obvious, this would have to be their actual intention...

    Alternatively, a million people need to show up on Congress's lawn for a week and make clear that, even as a potential minority, they will not lack power. And power is persuasive, though none will admit it.

    Finally, 2020 will not have as thoroughly lazy and incompetent and scandal-ridden Democratic candidate. I doubt they'll take a month off just before the election for example.

    The Breitbart line, that politics is downstream of culture, is proving unavoidably true too, at least in the medium-term.

    Perhaps little things can happen to help. How about an ADL for Americans who are defamed by being hoaxed (be generous and don't explicitly exclude anyone.) The Jussie Smollett case could be the incident to allow its launch.

    You have less than two years to make it so College educated white women don't mostly despise you. They could take a lot of votes with them. Any suggestions? (Or you could go for PoC, but that doesn't seem to have ever worked.)

  31. @Talha
    Much thanks to you for the details as well. It's good to know how other systems work.

    ALL the parties support mass immigration.
     
    Oh crap!!! Did not know this - I guess I misread more optimism into your previous post.

    The fertility has been below replacement since 1974, which is another topic altogether.
     
    Definitely have to fix that.

    Peace.

    Definitely have to fix that.

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/760332/sperm-donor-wants-to-father-2500-kids-joe-donor-60-minutes

    This guy might give some of the more “excited” guys at unz.com some ideas…

    I don’t think Khans, Nguyens and Singhs are up to it

    Hockey is a sport for whites. There are a few blacks. But 2 things keep minorities away. 1. Cost. The cost for hockey is so high now that only people who have a family history in the sport will sign up (white people). 2. Temperature. White kids will play for hours on outdoor rinks in subzero temperatures. I can’t say I have anything against nonwhites in the sport, they’re generally just not interested.

    Nonwhites will never play hockey. That said, the usual suspects are pushing for women to play hockey instead, and for the honourable ‘code’ and fighting to be phased out. Can’t get away from these people.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/760332/sperm-donor-wants-to-father-2500-kids-joe-donor-60-minutes
     
    Lol such a scam. Saw his Facebook page - the "Bumps" photos are mirror selfies of the same woman in different clothes with the same phone in hand, and then there's this:

    "Joe is popular with black women because most get a blond, blue-eyed child" - yeah, genetics and probability definitely work this way.

    Not a good idea even if it was real, because you don't want accidental incest to happen between some of your kids (that's why sperm banks have a limit of conceptions from one donor).
  32. @Talha
    Much thanks to you for the details as well. It's good to know how other systems work.

    ALL the parties support mass immigration.
     
    Oh crap!!! Did not know this - I guess I misread more optimism into your previous post.

    The fertility has been below replacement since 1974, which is another topic altogether.
     
    Definitely have to fix that.

    Peace.

    Definitely have to fix that.

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/760332/sperm-donor-wants-to-father-2500-kids-joe-donor-60-minutes

    This guy might give some of the more “excited” guys at unz.com some ideas…

    I don’t think Khans, Nguyens and Singhs are up to it

    Hockey is a sport for whites. There are a few blacks. But 2 things keep minorities away. 1. Cost. The cost for hockey is so high now that only people who have a family history in the sport will sign up (white people). 2. Temperature. White kids will play for hours on outdoor rinks in subzero temperatures. I can’t say I have anything against nonwhites in the sport, they’re generally just not interested.

    Nonwhites will never play hockey. That said, the usual suspects are pushing for women to play hockey instead, and for the honourable ‘code’ and fighting to be phased out. Can’t get away from these people.

    • Replies: @Talha

    Hockey is a sport for whites.
     
    Agreed, which is another reason why we need you guys to stick around.

    But 2 things keep minorities away.
     
    100% agree - extremely costly to get into - especially if you want to play goalie - O my Lord! Even used full goalie gear runs close to $1000!

    Nonwhites will never play hockey.
     
    Well, I play hockey - but definitely not as good as the Whites.

    honourable ‘code’ and fighting to be phased out
     
    Dammit! They'll probably stop all valid checking too! That is an art:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewCMOkjyrf8

    Peace.
    , @Twinkie

    Hockey is a sport for whites. There are a few blacks. But 2 things keep minorities away. 1. Cost. The cost for hockey is so high now that only people who have a family history in the sport will sign up (white people). 2. Temperature. White kids will play for hours on outdoor rinks in subzero temperatures.
     
    Ice hockey is overwhemingly a white sport, yes, but field hockey isn’t: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_hockey_at_the_Summer_Olympics

    And your two reasons aren’t convincing, because I know lots of nonwhite (esp. Asian) parents who put gobs of money into their children’s athletics and extracurriculars. You think ice hockey is expensive? Try equestrian sports (all of my children ride). Temperature? Ice rinks? Maybe for black and brown kids. Have you seen the sports of short track speed skating, figure skating, and even snowboarding? When I was growing up in East Asia, I went skating outside whenever the local lake froze in the winter, and I wasn’t the only one.

    I have an alternative theory. While blacks and browns may be kept away by cost and temperature considerations, I think the blue collar vibe of ice hockey keeps East Asians away. In fact, it’s probably viewed as the worst of both worlds - high cost and low class.

    Nonwhites will never play hockey.
     
    Never is too strong a word. When I was stationed in Japan, a colleague organized an adult ice hockey league and it quickly became about 75% Japanese.

    Ice hockey is still in its infancy in East Asia, but where there are Olympic medals at stake, they will throw money at it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/can-you-sing-the-anthem-okay-you-can-play-hockey-for-south-korea/2018/02/11/fe63fa36-0ef6-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html
  33. @John Gruskos

    would you prefer to have President Trump or President Harris?
     
    Serious answer: It makes no difference whatsoever.

    Trump, like all Republicans, pretends to support American national interests and Christian cultural interests, while enthusiastically advancing Wall Street's economic interests and Israel's foreign policy interests.

    Harris, like all Democrats, pretends to support peace and economic justice, while enthusiastically pushing an anti-American national agenda and an anti-Christian cultural agenda.

    In reality, the Democrats and Republicans, including Trump, form a uni-party whose platform consists of four planks:

    1. Anti-American immigration and national policy.
    2. Anti-Christian cultural policy.
    3. Wall-Street First economic policy.
    4. Israel First foreign policy.

    Opposition to the first two planks is harmlessly channeled into support for the "Republican" wing of the uni-party, just as opposition to plutocracy and warmongering is harmlessly channeled into support for the "Democratic" wing of the uni-party.

    The entity calling itself "The Government of the United States of America" is fundamentally illegitimate. Almost every single thing it does is unconstitutional, violating the preamble with its hostility to "ourselves and our posterity", and the 10th amendment with its intrusive social engineering.

    The entity calling itself "The Government of the United States of America" exists merely to implement decisions already made by the true rulers of this country, the ADL.

    That is why all of the most shameful congressional resolutions are passed unanimously and with the support of Trump.

    That is why Trump has completely ditched the immigration platform he adopted in August 2015, the platform on which he was elected, and instead now insists he wants "more immigration than ever before".

    Get real. Trump is still the best bet this country has. Fat chance you’ll get anybody more conservative in office unless Pence takes over and even he might not be that conservative. Harris will give us open borders, more obamacare type programs, and liberal supreme court justices. No thanks.

    • Replies: @John Gruskos

    Trump is still the best bet this country has
     
    That is my point exactly!

    If Trump is the best we can do under the current system, then the document purporting to be "The Constitution of the United States of America" has definitively failed to accomplish its stated objective.
  34. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    I am currently residing in the fabulous riding of Essex - rural white people who vote for the NDP!

    Are you a Canuck too?

    Area code 216 is for Cleveland, Ohio so on the other side of Lake Erie. I’m a resident of Congressional District 16 in Ohio.

    From the returns in the Essex riding, it appears the provincial NDP is stronger than the federal NDP, a weird reverse of the pattern observed in Michigan.

    As this riding is marginal, a vote for the Conservative Party is the most useful.

    It also might help to become a member of the Conservative Party and the Ontario PC Party, where you could organize with other party members to promote immigration restriction. Bernier’s party isn’t likely to win any seats this year, other than perhaps re-electing Bernier in Quebec. Should it ever win any seats, they are likely to first show up in QC and AB. So becoming a PP member would not be an effective use of resources.

    Is Bernier going to organize his party at the provincial level or federal-only?

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    the provincial NDP is stronger than the federal NDP
     
    The NDP in south-west Ontario (Windsor and Essex) is wayyy stronger than it should be based on demographics (especially in rural Essex) due to heavy union presence.

    Essex will eventually flip, though, it's turning into a swing between Conservative and NDP. Windsor is just getting browner and browner, so the replacements will do the jobs white people won't do, like vote NDP.

    It also might help to become a member of the Conservative Party and the Ontario PC Party, where you could organize with other party members to promote immigration restriction

     

    Sorry, the rich white boomer base of the Conservative Party loves immigrants. Farmer John loves that his farm is now worth 8 million dollars, and rich boomer living in Muskoka loves immigrants who are earning high incomes. No chance.

    Bernier's party has the chance (in fact I know some people in his party, trying to steer the budding organization towards Trumpism).

    But I agree that PPC should stick to Quebec and Atlantic Canada. That's where a populist right could win. Ontario is , as I said , hopeless in that respect.

    From what I hear, Bernier is only going to run the party federally.
  35. @216
    Area code 216 is for Cleveland, Ohio so on the other side of Lake Erie. I'm a resident of Congressional District 16 in Ohio.

    From the returns in the Essex riding, it appears the provincial NDP is stronger than the federal NDP, a weird reverse of the pattern observed in Michigan.

    As this riding is marginal, a vote for the Conservative Party is the most useful.

    It also might help to become a member of the Conservative Party and the Ontario PC Party, where you could organize with other party members to promote immigration restriction. Bernier's party isn't likely to win any seats this year, other than perhaps re-electing Bernier in Quebec. Should it ever win any seats, they are likely to first show up in QC and AB. So becoming a PP member would not be an effective use of resources.

    Is Bernier going to organize his party at the provincial level or federal-only?

    the provincial NDP is stronger than the federal NDP

    The NDP in south-west Ontario (Windsor and Essex) is wayyy stronger than it should be based on demographics (especially in rural Essex) due to heavy union presence.

    Essex will eventually flip, though, it’s turning into a swing between Conservative and NDP. Windsor is just getting browner and browner, so the replacements will do the jobs white people won’t do, like vote NDP.

    It also might help to become a member of the Conservative Party and the Ontario PC Party, where you could organize with other party members to promote immigration restriction

    Sorry, the rich white boomer base of the Conservative Party loves immigrants. Farmer John loves that his farm is now worth 8 million dollars, and rich boomer living in Muskoka loves immigrants who are earning high incomes. No chance.

    Bernier’s party has the chance (in fact I know some people in his party, trying to steer the budding organization towards Trumpism).

    But I agree that PPC should stick to Quebec and Atlantic Canada. That’s where a populist right could win. Ontario is , as I said , hopeless in that respect.

    From what I hear, Bernier is only going to run the party federally.

    • Replies: @216

    Sorry, the rich white boomer base of the Conservative Party loves immigrants. Farmer John loves that his farm is now worth 8 million dollars, and rich boomer living in Muskoka loves immigrants who are earning high incomes. No chance.
     
    My understanding from KMGVictoria is that party leadership contests are full of corruption, and outright purchasing votes from foreigners. To what extent is this true? Does this extend down to the riding level associations that select/deselect the MP?

    I saw some time back that the Conservatives passed a resolution for the repeal of jus soli. I'd vote for them on that reason alone.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4410446/conservative-convention-birth-tourism-canada/
  36. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    the provincial NDP is stronger than the federal NDP
     
    The NDP in south-west Ontario (Windsor and Essex) is wayyy stronger than it should be based on demographics (especially in rural Essex) due to heavy union presence.

    Essex will eventually flip, though, it's turning into a swing between Conservative and NDP. Windsor is just getting browner and browner, so the replacements will do the jobs white people won't do, like vote NDP.

    It also might help to become a member of the Conservative Party and the Ontario PC Party, where you could organize with other party members to promote immigration restriction

     

    Sorry, the rich white boomer base of the Conservative Party loves immigrants. Farmer John loves that his farm is now worth 8 million dollars, and rich boomer living in Muskoka loves immigrants who are earning high incomes. No chance.

    Bernier's party has the chance (in fact I know some people in his party, trying to steer the budding organization towards Trumpism).

    But I agree that PPC should stick to Quebec and Atlantic Canada. That's where a populist right could win. Ontario is , as I said , hopeless in that respect.

    From what I hear, Bernier is only going to run the party federally.

    Sorry, the rich white boomer base of the Conservative Party loves immigrants. Farmer John loves that his farm is now worth 8 million dollars, and rich boomer living in Muskoka loves immigrants who are earning high incomes. No chance.

    My understanding from KMGVictoria is that party leadership contests are full of corruption, and outright purchasing votes from foreigners. To what extent is this true? Does this extend down to the riding level associations that select/deselect the MP?

    I saw some time back that the Conservatives passed a resolution for the repeal of jus soli. I’d vote for them on that reason alone.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4410446/conservative-convention-birth-tourism-canada/

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Very true. The only reason Maxime Bernier didn't win the leadership of the Conservative Party was because thousands of Quebec dairy farmers signed up as members during the nomination. They swayed the vote just enough to push out anti-supply management Bernier and push in cuck Andrew Scheer. Bernier has since quit and started his own party.


    The riding associations generally vote on the candidate. Of course, if a strong candidate gets parachuted in by the party headquarters, the association is not going to vote against them!

    As far as the jus soli... well, I have heard nothing from the party since then. I would gladly support them if they just got tougher on immigration... right now all the material they are sending me is talking about tax cuts (sound familiar?), so I feel no reason to support them.
  37. @Audacious Epigone
    None of it, at least according to this poll, surprisingly. The share of white men who identify most as "independent" is stable across age cohorts. That's not what I've seen elsewhere, but it does show up here. I included the independent percentages in anticipation of this point being raised.

    I included the independent percentages in anticipation of this point being raised.

    Further clarity on this would be provided if “Disapproves Trump” and Democratic party-ID showed similar pattern.

  38. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Definitely have to fix that.
     
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/760332/sperm-donor-wants-to-father-2500-kids-joe-donor-60-minutes

    This guy might give some of the more "excited" guys at unz.com some ideas...

    I don’t think Khans, Nguyens and Singhs are up to it
     
    Hockey is a sport for whites. There are a few blacks. But 2 things keep minorities away. 1. Cost. The cost for hockey is so high now that only people who have a family history in the sport will sign up (white people). 2. Temperature. White kids will play for hours on outdoor rinks in subzero temperatures. I can't say I have anything against nonwhites in the sport, they're generally just not interested.

    Nonwhites will never play hockey. That said, the usual suspects are pushing for women to play hockey instead, and for the honourable 'code' and fighting to be phased out. Can't get away from these people.

    Hockey is a sport for whites.

    Agreed, which is another reason why we need you guys to stick around.

    But 2 things keep minorities away.

    100% agree – extremely costly to get into – especially if you want to play goalie – O my Lord! Even used full goalie gear runs close to $1000!

    Nonwhites will never play hockey.

    Well, I play hockey – but definitely not as good as the Whites.

    honourable ‘code’ and fighting to be phased out

    Dammit! They’ll probably stop all valid checking too! That is an art:

    Peace.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Well, I play hockey – but definitely not as good as the Whites.
     
    Wow, a Muslim and American who plays hockey. Never heard of any Muslim playing hockey, and only a few Yankees. We have a couple blacks guys and Indian guys, but my league is at least 95% white.

    Dammit! They’ll probably stop all valid checking too! That is an art:

     

    Watch the NHL, do you see any kind of hits like that anymore? Check how many fights there are too.

    Our beer league games seem to have more testosterone and aggression than modern NHL "hockey".
  39. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    It's the same dilemma in Canada.

    Do I vote for the Boomercon "Conservative Party"? Slightly tougher on terror and crime, a few less refugees, slightly better quality immigrants, and I know they will leave the gun legislation alone. They have the best chance of winning.

    OR, do I support the populist People's Party? Economic deregulation, libertarian (not necessarily a good thing), but also a huge cut to the number of immigrants coming in and anti-cultural Marxist?

    Keep in mind, a vote for the latter is a vote taken away from the former, AKA another vote split in favour of PM Trudeau. Who do you choose?

    It's the problem with our electoral systems. We are constantly forced to go with "the best of the worst". I suppose that once the Boomers die off, they might actually start caring about young white voters like myself. But right now, White Boomers have all the money, all the power, and all the numbers, so they are the main target. When the White Boomers die, whites will be a complete minority, so our voting system will no longer work anyways.

    We're screwed. Thanks Boomers.

    Somewhat OT but not too much: What do you think of Rob Ford’s government?
    Rob seems to be slowly, quietly but decisively governing as a rightwing populist. Trump failed to do that. Ford has been ridiculing journalists. He’s been passing laws designed to protect conservatives in university and to defund communists there. I believe he’s also moving against tranny sex education and the like. Is that an accurate perception of Ford Nation’s rule so far?

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    What do you think of Rob Ford’s government?
     
    Rob Ford is no longer with us. He was the crack smoking mayor of Toronto. His brother, Doug, *is* however currently the Premier of Ontario.

    Doug Ford is doing great things for Ontario. He's forcing universities to support free speech, based on the University of Chicago model. He forced universities to cut $1,000 off of tuition costs, leaving them scrambling to find "efficiencies" (aka taking a look at the six-figure diversity tsars). Union fees to student unions are now optional. He is rolling back to freaky tranny and homosexual curriculum that was supposed to start teaching children about gays in 3rd grade. Hopefully he will focus on ending the Common Core equivalent soon, which was also a campaign promise. He's scrapped the provincial carbon tax and is taking the federal Trudeau one to court. He told the feds to go fuck themselves on refugee resettlement, and stopped working with them and paying for refugees (he has no control on immigration coming in, though). His cabinet is nearly 100% white (old-stock Canadians who care about the province).

    Wow, what a list, and this has been accomplished in only eight months. He's a smooth operator and has a great supportive cast of Conservative MPP's behind him, backing him up. If Trump had the respect and support of the Republican Congress the way Ford does with the PC caucus, huge changes could have been made. Ford also manages to deflect every "scandal" that the media usually pulls out of its ass to derail every right of center party.

    Aspiring nationalist and right-wing leaders should take a hard look at how Doug Ford runs the ship. Interestingly, he has massive non-white support as well, since these people are against the "progressive" sex-ed. Every brown/Arab/black person I've talked to voted for him. Love it when the left-wing open borders backfires on them.

    Best vote I ever made.
  40. @ogunsiron
    Somewhat OT but not too much: What do you think of Rob Ford's government?
    Rob seems to be slowly, quietly but decisively governing as a rightwing populist. Trump failed to do that. Ford has been ridiculing journalists. He's been passing laws designed to protect conservatives in university and to defund communists there. I believe he's also moving against tranny sex education and the like. Is that an accurate perception of Ford Nation's rule so far?

    What do you think of Rob Ford’s government?

    Rob Ford is no longer with us. He was the crack smoking mayor of Toronto. His brother, Doug, *is* however currently the Premier of Ontario.

    Doug Ford is doing great things for Ontario. He’s forcing universities to support free speech, based on the University of Chicago model. He forced universities to cut $1,000 off of tuition costs, leaving them scrambling to find “efficiencies” (aka taking a look at the six-figure diversity tsars). Union fees to student unions are now optional. He is rolling back to freaky tranny and homosexual curriculum that was supposed to start teaching children about gays in 3rd grade. Hopefully he will focus on ending the Common Core equivalent soon, which was also a campaign promise. He’s scrapped the provincial carbon tax and is taking the federal Trudeau one to court. He told the feds to go fuck themselves on refugee resettlement, and stopped working with them and paying for refugees (he has no control on immigration coming in, though). His cabinet is nearly 100% white (old-stock Canadians who care about the province).

    Wow, what a list, and this has been accomplished in only eight months. He’s a smooth operator and has a great supportive cast of Conservative MPP’s behind him, backing him up. If Trump had the respect and support of the Republican Congress the way Ford does with the PC caucus, huge changes could have been made. Ford also manages to deflect every “scandal” that the media usually pulls out of its ass to derail every right of center party.

    Aspiring nationalist and right-wing leaders should take a hard look at how Doug Ford runs the ship. Interestingly, he has massive non-white support as well, since these people are against the “progressive” sex-ed. Every brown/Arab/black person I’ve talked to voted for him. Love it when the left-wing open borders backfires on them.

    Best vote I ever made.

    • Replies: @ogunsiron
    Yes it's Doug of course!
    I was interested in the PPC for a while but I'm not liking the autistic libertarian bent. A Ford Nation for Canada is needed. I'm sure Doug does a good job on the economic front but he seems to be doing amazing things on the kulturkampf side of things. What I like most about them is that he clearly sees the communists as enemies and he clearly is against them and does not respect them.
  41. @Talha

    Hockey is a sport for whites.
     
    Agreed, which is another reason why we need you guys to stick around.

    But 2 things keep minorities away.
     
    100% agree - extremely costly to get into - especially if you want to play goalie - O my Lord! Even used full goalie gear runs close to $1000!

    Nonwhites will never play hockey.
     
    Well, I play hockey - but definitely not as good as the Whites.

    honourable ‘code’ and fighting to be phased out
     
    Dammit! They'll probably stop all valid checking too! That is an art:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewCMOkjyrf8

    Peace.

    Well, I play hockey – but definitely not as good as the Whites.

    Wow, a Muslim and American who plays hockey. Never heard of any Muslim playing hockey, and only a few Yankees. We have a couple blacks guys and Indian guys, but my league is at least 95% white.

    Dammit! They’ll probably stop all valid checking too! That is an art:

    Watch the NHL, do you see any kind of hits like that anymore? Check how many fights there are too.

    Our beer league games seem to have more testosterone and aggression than modern NHL “hockey”.

    • Replies: @Talha

    Wow, a Muslim and American who plays hockey.
     
    Well, hold on. I haven't broken into ice hockey yet, though I hope to soon. I play street hockey with inline skates - in my defense, I grew up in Southern California for the majority of my life and moved to Illinois recently - still haven't fully adjusted to the winters.

    my league is at least 95% white.
     
    Totally makes sense.

    Watch the NHL, do you see any kind of hits like that anymore? Check how many fights there are too.
     
    OK - yeah good points. Marty McSorely (what a name for a scrapper, eh?) will be missed.

    Peace.
  42. @216

    Sorry, the rich white boomer base of the Conservative Party loves immigrants. Farmer John loves that his farm is now worth 8 million dollars, and rich boomer living in Muskoka loves immigrants who are earning high incomes. No chance.
     
    My understanding from KMGVictoria is that party leadership contests are full of corruption, and outright purchasing votes from foreigners. To what extent is this true? Does this extend down to the riding level associations that select/deselect the MP?

    I saw some time back that the Conservatives passed a resolution for the repeal of jus soli. I'd vote for them on that reason alone.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4410446/conservative-convention-birth-tourism-canada/

    Very true. The only reason Maxime Bernier didn’t win the leadership of the Conservative Party was because thousands of Quebec dairy farmers signed up as members during the nomination. They swayed the vote just enough to push out anti-supply management Bernier and push in cuck Andrew Scheer. Bernier has since quit and started his own party.

    The riding associations generally vote on the candidate. Of course, if a strong candidate gets parachuted in by the party headquarters, the association is not going to vote against them!

    As far as the jus soli… well, I have heard nothing from the party since then. I would gladly support them if they just got tougher on immigration… right now all the material they are sending me is talking about tax cuts (sound familiar?), so I feel no reason to support them.

  43. anonymous[100] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Gruskos

    would you prefer to have President Trump or President Harris?
     
    Serious answer: It makes no difference whatsoever.

    Trump, like all Republicans, pretends to support American national interests and Christian cultural interests, while enthusiastically advancing Wall Street's economic interests and Israel's foreign policy interests.

    Harris, like all Democrats, pretends to support peace and economic justice, while enthusiastically pushing an anti-American national agenda and an anti-Christian cultural agenda.

    In reality, the Democrats and Republicans, including Trump, form a uni-party whose platform consists of four planks:

    1. Anti-American immigration and national policy.
    2. Anti-Christian cultural policy.
    3. Wall-Street First economic policy.
    4. Israel First foreign policy.

    Opposition to the first two planks is harmlessly channeled into support for the "Republican" wing of the uni-party, just as opposition to plutocracy and warmongering is harmlessly channeled into support for the "Democratic" wing of the uni-party.

    The entity calling itself "The Government of the United States of America" is fundamentally illegitimate. Almost every single thing it does is unconstitutional, violating the preamble with its hostility to "ourselves and our posterity", and the 10th amendment with its intrusive social engineering.

    The entity calling itself "The Government of the United States of America" exists merely to implement decisions already made by the true rulers of this country, the ADL.

    That is why all of the most shameful congressional resolutions are passed unanimously and with the support of Trump.

    That is why Trump has completely ditched the immigration platform he adopted in August 2015, the platform on which he was elected, and instead now insists he wants "more immigration than ever before".

    Does anyone think Trump actually has a say in the matter? Or is the Presidency just a ceremonial sort of thing, with the power behind the scenes making the policy decisions?

    I feel in my gut that Trump wants to do certain things but just isn’t able. I think the man is being threatened or blackmailed. It sounds silly, but these ‘Deep State’ people have a mission and they play hardball… I wouldn’t put anything past them.

    The day Trump went to the White House to get a briefing with Obama, after the election, he came out of the meeting looking deflated and like he’d just seen a ghost. I think that was when he got the news that he was only a junior partner.

  44. I thought Bernie wouldn’t declare as he is really old. Nonetheless, now that he has, he stands a good chance. Bernie has authenticity, an ideological identity and a huge bunch of formerly loyal volunteers who felt their prior efforts were stolen by the DNC. Kamala has a challenger. It should be interesting.

  45. @Haxo Angmark
    2016: 'Murka = c. 40% Jews/Blacks/Browns/Yellows....60% Whites

    2020: 'Murka = c. 43% Jews/Blacks/Browns/Yellows...57% Whites

    2024: 'Murka = c. 46% Jews/Blacks/Browns/Yellows...54% Whites


    we are rapidly running out of demographic time. And


    all the execrable, Jew-owned Trump has done is

    throw a wet blanket over the WhiteRight,

    while vastly energizing the JudeoEthnicLeft.

    Only 46% of white women voters* went for (campaign) Trump if this article is to be believed. The logic seems fair to me.

    http://time.com/5422644/trump-white-women-2016/

    Worse, Trump won only 35% of college-educated white women*, whose shares of the electorate will have increased just as the share on non-college-educated will have diminished.

    With Florida now allowing inmates to vote, and the demographic changes that you have highlighted, it seems that the next election is basically impossible for the Republicans to win.

    This is why facts on the ground need to change. A third party run by a supposed globalist would do this, but since this is obvious, this would have to be their actual intention…

    Alternatively, a million people need to show up on Congress’s lawn for a week and make clear that, even as a potential minority, they will not lack power. And power is persuasive, though none will admit it.

    Finally, 2020 will not have as thoroughly lazy and incompetent and scandal-ridden Democratic candidate. I doubt they’ll take a month off just before the election for example.

    The Breitbart line, that politics is downstream of culture, is proving unavoidably true too, at least in the medium-term.

    Perhaps little things can happen to help. How about an ADL for Americans who are defamed by being hoaxed (be generous and don’t explicitly exclude anyone.) The Jussie Smollett case could be the incident to allow its launch.

    You have less than two years to make it so College educated white women don’t mostly despise you. They could take a lot of votes with them. Any suggestions? (Or you could go for PoC, but that doesn’t seem to have ever worked.)

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
    actually, T, I fervently hope the demoncrats win in 2020.

    just as I supported Mrs. Clinton in 2016. Because,

    after another 5-10 years of Republiscam smother of the White hardRight,

    Whites in 'Murka will be demographically

    doomed.
  46. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Well, I play hockey – but definitely not as good as the Whites.
     
    Wow, a Muslim and American who plays hockey. Never heard of any Muslim playing hockey, and only a few Yankees. We have a couple blacks guys and Indian guys, but my league is at least 95% white.

    Dammit! They’ll probably stop all valid checking too! That is an art:

     

    Watch the NHL, do you see any kind of hits like that anymore? Check how many fights there are too.

    Our beer league games seem to have more testosterone and aggression than modern NHL "hockey".

    Wow, a Muslim and American who plays hockey.

    Well, hold on. I haven’t broken into ice hockey yet, though I hope to soon. I play street hockey with inline skates – in my defense, I grew up in Southern California for the majority of my life and moved to Illinois recently – still haven’t fully adjusted to the winters.

    my league is at least 95% white.

    Totally makes sense.

    Watch the NHL, do you see any kind of hits like that anymore? Check how many fights there are too.

    OK – yeah good points. Marty McSorely (what a name for a scrapper, eh?) will be missed.

    Peace.

  47. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Serious question: What the heck IS Trumpism?

    I'm 25, semi-rural, and have a bachelor's degree (whoop dee freaking doo). Impressed by a few things after his presidency began, I supported "Trumpism" to a large degree until the St. Valentine's Day Massacre of 2019.

    Now I'm back to where I was in 2016, when he slavishly spoke at AIPAC: "Trumpism" looks like Zionist BoomerCon Reaganism crap, warmed up with a just bit of pro-Rust Belt trade deal politicking.

    He may have lost my vote.

    But, if I know Republicans, when election time comes around in 2020, the partisan fevers will heat up, and everyone will tell me that I just have to suck it up and vote for the Republican, even though it sure looks like the Republican has stabbed us in our demographic back once again.

    He may have lost my vote.

    I voted for Trump, and I won’t do that again.

    Trump is a politician whore for Jew billionaire Shelly Adelson.

    Shelly Adelson puts the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States — so does Trump.

    Shelly Adelson pushes mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders — so does Trump.

    Trump must be challenged in the 2020 GOP presidential primary by a candidate who will openly advance the interests of White Core American Patriots.

  48. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Definitely have to fix that.
     
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/760332/sperm-donor-wants-to-father-2500-kids-joe-donor-60-minutes

    This guy might give some of the more "excited" guys at unz.com some ideas...

    I don’t think Khans, Nguyens and Singhs are up to it
     
    Hockey is a sport for whites. There are a few blacks. But 2 things keep minorities away. 1. Cost. The cost for hockey is so high now that only people who have a family history in the sport will sign up (white people). 2. Temperature. White kids will play for hours on outdoor rinks in subzero temperatures. I can't say I have anything against nonwhites in the sport, they're generally just not interested.

    Nonwhites will never play hockey. That said, the usual suspects are pushing for women to play hockey instead, and for the honourable 'code' and fighting to be phased out. Can't get away from these people.

    Hockey is a sport for whites. There are a few blacks. But 2 things keep minorities away. 1. Cost. The cost for hockey is so high now that only people who have a family history in the sport will sign up (white people). 2. Temperature. White kids will play for hours on outdoor rinks in subzero temperatures.

    Ice hockey is overwhemingly a white sport, yes, but field hockey isn’t: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_hockey_at_the_Summer_Olympics

    And your two reasons aren’t convincing, because I know lots of nonwhite (esp. Asian) parents who put gobs of money into their children’s athletics and extracurriculars. You think ice hockey is expensive? Try equestrian sports (all of my children ride). Temperature? Ice rinks? Maybe for black and brown kids. Have you seen the sports of short track speed skating, figure skating, and even snowboarding? When I was growing up in East Asia, I went skating outside whenever the local lake froze in the winter, and I wasn’t the only one.

    I have an alternative theory. While blacks and browns may be kept away by cost and temperature considerations, I think the blue collar vibe of ice hockey keeps East Asians away. In fact, it’s probably viewed as the worst of both worlds – high cost and low class.

    Nonwhites will never play hockey.

    Never is too strong a word. When I was stationed in Japan, a colleague organized an adult ice hockey league and it quickly became about 75% Japanese.

    Ice hockey is still in its infancy in East Asia, but where there are Olympic medals at stake, they will throw money at it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/can-you-sing-the-anthem-okay-you-can-play-hockey-for-south-korea/2018/02/11/fe63fa36-0ef6-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html

    • Replies: @iffen
    When I was stationed in Japan

    Semper Fi?
    , @Anonymous
    There have been more than a few Asian NHL players. Mostly of Japanese descent but the longest playing have been of Korean descent (Richard Park and Jim Paek). Probably because of their larger size they had longevity. Park was born in Seoul but grew up in Toronto. Paek was also born in Seoul but grew up in CA but in his teens moved to Canada to play. I’m surprised the sport hasn’t been more popular in China. It is a sport where skills, which can be developed with hard work, can overcome a lack of natural talent. Though of course the greats have both.
  49. O/T

    Covington Nick sues the Bezos Post.

    http://www.hemmerlaw.com/blog/for-truth-for-justice-for-nicholas/

    I’m going to be the blackpill and say that their odds are not that great, the federal court will not hold the Hulk Hogan Gawker case as a precedent. Their best odds for defamation are against Nathan Philipps, but he’s probably judgement proof and it is bad optics to sue him.

    Choosing to be interviewed on NBC will get him rendered by the courts as a “public figure”. The Diocese told the students/families to stop talking to the media, and they disregarded that.

    There is no indication that other students are joining him as co-plaintiffs. Nor is the school or the Diocese appearing to join as a co-plaintiff. Perhaps they will, but it is bad optics if they don’t, and inconsistent with the idea of deferring to higher authorities.

    Suing the celebrities that issued violent threats is probably the best angle.

    Not a lawyer, obviously. Not sure if this firm has experience in these types of cases, which are by their nature hard to win.

    • Replies: @216
    Read the replies

    https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1098002253397532673

    The lawsuit has a high risk of being viewed as revenge, not justice.

    The left/Bezos' lawyers will zero in on "PR firm".

    You don't volunteer to be Haven Monahan.


    https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1098002611180003328

    What a surprise.
  50. @216
    O/T

    Covington Nick sues the Bezos Post.

    http://www.hemmerlaw.com/blog/for-truth-for-justice-for-nicholas/

    I'm going to be the blackpill and say that their odds are not that great, the federal court will not hold the Hulk Hogan Gawker case as a precedent. Their best odds for defamation are against Nathan Philipps, but he's probably judgement proof and it is bad optics to sue him.

    Choosing to be interviewed on NBC will get him rendered by the courts as a "public figure". The Diocese told the students/families to stop talking to the media, and they disregarded that.

    There is no indication that other students are joining him as co-plaintiffs. Nor is the school or the Diocese appearing to join as a co-plaintiff. Perhaps they will, but it is bad optics if they don't, and inconsistent with the idea of deferring to higher authorities.

    Suing the celebrities that issued violent threats is probably the best angle.

    Not a lawyer, obviously. Not sure if this firm has experience in these types of cases, which are by their nature hard to win.

    Read the replies

    The lawsuit has a high risk of being viewed as revenge, not justice.

    The left/Bezos’ lawyers will zero in on “PR firm”.

    You don’t volunteer to be Haven Monahan.

    What a surprise.

    • Replies: @216
    https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1098014593199325185

    First reply

    https://twitter.com/michaelbroseph/status/1098014774221168640

    Black Hate (tm)

    https://twitter.com/galenawrites/status/1098005483997356034

    No surprise here, what your people have an Anti-Defamation League for collective defense.
  51. @Tony
    Get real. Trump is still the best bet this country has. Fat chance you'll get anybody more conservative in office unless Pence takes over and even he might not be that conservative. Harris will give us open borders, more obamacare type programs, and liberal supreme court justices. No thanks.

    Trump is still the best bet this country has

    That is my point exactly!

    If Trump is the best we can do under the current system, then the document purporting to be “The Constitution of the United States of America” has definitively failed to accomplish its stated objective.

  52. @216
    Read the replies

    https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1098002253397532673

    The lawsuit has a high risk of being viewed as revenge, not justice.

    The left/Bezos' lawyers will zero in on "PR firm".

    You don't volunteer to be Haven Monahan.


    https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1098002611180003328

    What a surprise.

    First reply

    Black Hate ™

    No surprise here, what your people have an Anti-Defamation League for collective defense.

  53. This is a civilian cat lady, so I wouldn’t even respond for fear it would be called harassment. But it is a rare leftist that spells out exactly what they want.

    Even when you are wronged, as a white male your place in the intersectional system is to grovel. And arguably that’s what they should have done, by filing the lawsuit without co-plaintiffs and the Diocese they are losing whatever victimhood status they had.

    Also, she’s back, and worse. Nevertheless, this is the way the Narrative will move.

    • Replies: @216
    https://twitter.com/Robert4787/status/1098057085714087936

    Read this guy's bio
  54. @Twinkie

    Hockey is a sport for whites. There are a few blacks. But 2 things keep minorities away. 1. Cost. The cost for hockey is so high now that only people who have a family history in the sport will sign up (white people). 2. Temperature. White kids will play for hours on outdoor rinks in subzero temperatures.
     
    Ice hockey is overwhemingly a white sport, yes, but field hockey isn’t: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_hockey_at_the_Summer_Olympics

    And your two reasons aren’t convincing, because I know lots of nonwhite (esp. Asian) parents who put gobs of money into their children’s athletics and extracurriculars. You think ice hockey is expensive? Try equestrian sports (all of my children ride). Temperature? Ice rinks? Maybe for black and brown kids. Have you seen the sports of short track speed skating, figure skating, and even snowboarding? When I was growing up in East Asia, I went skating outside whenever the local lake froze in the winter, and I wasn’t the only one.

    I have an alternative theory. While blacks and browns may be kept away by cost and temperature considerations, I think the blue collar vibe of ice hockey keeps East Asians away. In fact, it’s probably viewed as the worst of both worlds - high cost and low class.

    Nonwhites will never play hockey.
     
    Never is too strong a word. When I was stationed in Japan, a colleague organized an adult ice hockey league and it quickly became about 75% Japanese.

    Ice hockey is still in its infancy in East Asia, but where there are Olympic medals at stake, they will throw money at it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/can-you-sing-the-anthem-okay-you-can-play-hockey-for-south-korea/2018/02/11/fe63fa36-0ef6-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html

    When I was stationed in Japan

    Semper Fi?

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    Semper Fi?
     
    No.
  55. More:

    From the Sons of Critical Theory

    http://indigenous.boston/lakota-peoples-law-project-legal-team-says-biased-report-fails-to-exonerate-covington-catholic-students

    To what extent “Stolen Valor” can be wielded against them, it should be used to the fullest extent.

    Point 3 indicates that they don’t believe certain political opinions deserve legal protection. This will be the argument used by the Post assuming the lawsuit isn’t dismissed.

  56. Anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Definitely have to fix that.
     
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/760332/sperm-donor-wants-to-father-2500-kids-joe-donor-60-minutes

    This guy might give some of the more "excited" guys at unz.com some ideas...

    I don’t think Khans, Nguyens and Singhs are up to it
     
    Hockey is a sport for whites. There are a few blacks. But 2 things keep minorities away. 1. Cost. The cost for hockey is so high now that only people who have a family history in the sport will sign up (white people). 2. Temperature. White kids will play for hours on outdoor rinks in subzero temperatures. I can't say I have anything against nonwhites in the sport, they're generally just not interested.

    Nonwhites will never play hockey. That said, the usual suspects are pushing for women to play hockey instead, and for the honourable 'code' and fighting to be phased out. Can't get away from these people.

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/760332/sperm-donor-wants-to-father-2500-kids-joe-donor-60-minutes

    Lol such a scam. Saw his Facebook page – the “Bumps” photos are mirror selfies of the same woman in different clothes with the same phone in hand, and then there’s this:

    “Joe is popular with black women because most get a blond, blue-eyed child” – yeah, genetics and probability definitely work this way.

    Not a good idea even if it was real, because you don’t want accidental incest to happen between some of your kids (that’s why sperm banks have a limit of conceptions from one donor).

  57. @iffen
    When I was stationed in Japan

    Semper Fi?

    Semper Fi?

    No.

  58. @216
    This is a civilian cat lady, so I wouldn't even respond for fear it would be called harassment. But it is a rare leftist that spells out exactly what they want.

    https://twitter.com/KarCranky/status/1098010694484676609

    Even when you are wronged, as a white male your place in the intersectional system is to grovel. And arguably that's what they should have done, by filing the lawsuit without co-plaintiffs and the Diocese they are losing whatever victimhood status they had.

    https://twitter.com/KirstenPowers/status/1097554174580060161

    Also, she's back, and worse. Nevertheless, this is the way the Narrative will move.

    Read this guy’s bio

    • Replies: @216
    More object of interest

    This "Daily Show producer", say what are the odds that Trevor Noah ever hires anyone right-wing???

    https://twitter.com/Polidorable/status/1098081981575938048

    Worth noting that the left didn't witness the narrative collapse that saw Philipps exposed as Stolen Valor. But hey, exorhibant privilege of leftism.
  59. @216
    https://twitter.com/Robert4787/status/1098057085714087936

    Read this guy's bio

    More object of interest

    This “Daily Show producer”, say what are the odds that Trevor Noah ever hires anyone right-wing???

    Worth noting that the left didn’t witness the narrative collapse that saw Philipps exposed as Stolen Valor. But hey, exorhibant privilege of leftism.

  60. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    What do you think of Rob Ford’s government?
     
    Rob Ford is no longer with us. He was the crack smoking mayor of Toronto. His brother, Doug, *is* however currently the Premier of Ontario.

    Doug Ford is doing great things for Ontario. He's forcing universities to support free speech, based on the University of Chicago model. He forced universities to cut $1,000 off of tuition costs, leaving them scrambling to find "efficiencies" (aka taking a look at the six-figure diversity tsars). Union fees to student unions are now optional. He is rolling back to freaky tranny and homosexual curriculum that was supposed to start teaching children about gays in 3rd grade. Hopefully he will focus on ending the Common Core equivalent soon, which was also a campaign promise. He's scrapped the provincial carbon tax and is taking the federal Trudeau one to court. He told the feds to go fuck themselves on refugee resettlement, and stopped working with them and paying for refugees (he has no control on immigration coming in, though). His cabinet is nearly 100% white (old-stock Canadians who care about the province).

    Wow, what a list, and this has been accomplished in only eight months. He's a smooth operator and has a great supportive cast of Conservative MPP's behind him, backing him up. If Trump had the respect and support of the Republican Congress the way Ford does with the PC caucus, huge changes could have been made. Ford also manages to deflect every "scandal" that the media usually pulls out of its ass to derail every right of center party.

    Aspiring nationalist and right-wing leaders should take a hard look at how Doug Ford runs the ship. Interestingly, he has massive non-white support as well, since these people are against the "progressive" sex-ed. Every brown/Arab/black person I've talked to voted for him. Love it when the left-wing open borders backfires on them.

    Best vote I ever made.

    Yes it’s Doug of course!
    I was interested in the PPC for a while but I’m not liking the autistic libertarian bent. A Ford Nation for Canada is needed. I’m sure Doug does a good job on the economic front but he seems to be doing amazing things on the kulturkampf side of things. What I like most about them is that he clearly sees the communists as enemies and he clearly is against them and does not respect them.

  61. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    Hockey is a sport for whites. There are a few blacks. But 2 things keep minorities away. 1. Cost. The cost for hockey is so high now that only people who have a family history in the sport will sign up (white people). 2. Temperature. White kids will play for hours on outdoor rinks in subzero temperatures.
     
    Ice hockey is overwhemingly a white sport, yes, but field hockey isn’t: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_hockey_at_the_Summer_Olympics

    And your two reasons aren’t convincing, because I know lots of nonwhite (esp. Asian) parents who put gobs of money into their children’s athletics and extracurriculars. You think ice hockey is expensive? Try equestrian sports (all of my children ride). Temperature? Ice rinks? Maybe for black and brown kids. Have you seen the sports of short track speed skating, figure skating, and even snowboarding? When I was growing up in East Asia, I went skating outside whenever the local lake froze in the winter, and I wasn’t the only one.

    I have an alternative theory. While blacks and browns may be kept away by cost and temperature considerations, I think the blue collar vibe of ice hockey keeps East Asians away. In fact, it’s probably viewed as the worst of both worlds - high cost and low class.

    Nonwhites will never play hockey.
     
    Never is too strong a word. When I was stationed in Japan, a colleague organized an adult ice hockey league and it quickly became about 75% Japanese.

    Ice hockey is still in its infancy in East Asia, but where there are Olympic medals at stake, they will throw money at it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/can-you-sing-the-anthem-okay-you-can-play-hockey-for-south-korea/2018/02/11/fe63fa36-0ef6-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html

    There have been more than a few Asian NHL players. Mostly of Japanese descent but the longest playing have been of Korean descent (Richard Park and Jim Paek). Probably because of their larger size they had longevity. Park was born in Seoul but grew up in Toronto. Paek was also born in Seoul but grew up in CA but in his teens moved to Canada to play. I’m surprised the sport hasn’t been more popular in China. It is a sport where skills, which can be developed with hard work, can overcome a lack of natural talent. Though of course the greats have both.

  62. @Tyrion 2
    Only 46% of white women voters* went for (campaign) Trump if this article is to be believed. The logic seems fair to me.

    http://time.com/5422644/trump-white-women-2016/

    Worse, Trump won only 35% of college-educated white women*, whose shares of the electorate will have increased just as the share on non-college-educated will have diminished.

    With Florida now allowing inmates to vote, and the demographic changes that you have highlighted, it seems that the next election is basically impossible for the Republicans to win.

    This is why facts on the ground need to change. A third party run by a supposed globalist would do this, but since this is obvious, this would have to be their actual intention...

    Alternatively, a million people need to show up on Congress's lawn for a week and make clear that, even as a potential minority, they will not lack power. And power is persuasive, though none will admit it.

    Finally, 2020 will not have as thoroughly lazy and incompetent and scandal-ridden Democratic candidate. I doubt they'll take a month off just before the election for example.

    The Breitbart line, that politics is downstream of culture, is proving unavoidably true too, at least in the medium-term.

    Perhaps little things can happen to help. How about an ADL for Americans who are defamed by being hoaxed (be generous and don't explicitly exclude anyone.) The Jussie Smollett case could be the incident to allow its launch.

    You have less than two years to make it so College educated white women don't mostly despise you. They could take a lot of votes with them. Any suggestions? (Or you could go for PoC, but that doesn't seem to have ever worked.)

    actually, T, I fervently hope the demoncrats win in 2020.

    just as I supported Mrs. Clinton in 2016. Because,

    after another 5-10 years of Republiscam smother of the White hardRight,

    Whites in ‘Murka will be demographically

    doomed.

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