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Nobody wanted–needed!–it to be true more than white liberals did:

A few of the most zealous believers will cling to the attendant statement that while two years, a bazillion dollars, and a gazillion investigatory man-hours couldn’t turn up a shred of evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia, the orange man hasn’t been formally exonerated yet. Hope springs eternal for the demented few! For most, though, this is a devastating psychological blow.

The truth hurts. It especially hurts purveyors of fake news.

 
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  1. 216 says:

    Appropriated Topic:

    A sign of later marriage age, but no signs of “gray divorce” being on the rise, but there is a (small) sign of “mid-life crises” from late Boomers.

    So from this data we can see that one-fifth of Gen X has no partner, and presumably will not marry at this age (if female).

  2. The truth hurts. It hurts much more often when you’re stupid.

    Achmed E. Wayne

  3. Thomm says:

    I have always noted that conservatives who are non-white are less squishy, since they have already endured a ton of racism and ostracization on account of their beliefs.

    You won’t see a Larry Elder or Candace Owens cucks the way a white cuckservative would.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  4. I live in the SF Bay Area and am around liberals constantly, including some who are very intelligent and well educated. The Mueller investigation allowed them to suspend their brains and live in a fantasy where all the crimes and domestic spying committed by the FBI, DOJ, CIA, Hillary, and Obama against Trump never really occurred. I cannot tell you how many times I have heard how we just have to let Saint Mueller conduct his investigation and that any that even doubting him was obstruction. Part of that was a political strategy but some of it was their inability to own up to the horrible crimes that were committed. The shame of this will be too much to bear for some liberals and they are in denial.

    Trump, to his credit, had the balls (and patience) to not make a false move. Most of the Democrats knew that there was no Russian Collusion but they were hoping that Trump would make a mistake under pressure and get nailed with obstruction or a process crime. That was their insurance policy. The investigation gained the Democrats two years but it is over and they appear to be in no better position than they were in before, either politically or psychologically. It is time to rub their noses in the shit they created and teach them a lesson that they will never forget.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  5. It’s time that we turned our attention to a problem that is real: The widespread and severe political collusion and corruption involving Israelis, Israeli-Americans, and ardent Zionists who purposefully (and routinely) suborn US government officials on behalf of a foreign state.

    The kosher elephant in America’s living room must be addressed and it must be stopped.

    Watch our major news media, elite opinion makers, top political operatives, and elected officials all pretend that there is no such thing.

    Israel’s massive footprint on the face of America does not exist! And believing so makes you an ‘anti-Semite’.

    So shut up!

    How much longer will this pathetic charade continue?

  6. iffen says:

    The truth hurts. It especially hurts purveyors of fake news.

    Truth only hurts when it conflicts with what we want to believe and only when we accept it as “the” truth. For the purveyors this is a little problem, a challenge, and I’m sure that you have noticed that they are pretty good at damage control and ignoring inconvenient truths. Just look at the twenty years and thousands of times the SPLC’s mark of the beast was used in all media even after “the” truth was known.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  7. If there is any truth to the phrase “the process is the punishment,” then this massive expenditure of time and money was not really a loss for the leftist deep state. I mean, what did they lose, credibility? To anyone paying attention they never really had any to begin with. Did they lose support? Doubtful, as supporters of the Mueller investigation were true believers, not pursuers of facts and evidence. Is anyone’s career in jeopardy? Not likely. Is any reform going to come to our justice system? No, no it is not.

    However, the process itself managed to consume a fair amount of Trump and his administration’s time and effort, as well as create division within his circle, not to mention ruin a few lives, and distract the public from more pressing issues that have yet to be resolved.

    The right can take a victory lap if it wants to, but nothing changes, and Trump is likely out in 2020 as he has proven that he will not uphold his promise to curb reckless immigration.

    • Agree: Rosie
  8. The back-story of the non-impeachment of Donald Trump, may be in the file which the the US Department of Justice Inspector General acknowledged receiving the other month, a file detailing alleged criminal acts of Robert Mueller himself.

    File talks about Mueller indulging big crimes as FBI director, helping Mueller’s own eventual law firm to defraud millions out of a Hillary donor, with bribery of two USA federal judges, & threats to kill an ex-DOJ employee, with Mueller getting a big payday after he indulged it all as FBI chief, Mueller getting funds channelled from a criminal outfit based in the UK.

    The file was referenced in President Trump’s tweets, a photo meme of Mueller in jail, and the President saying, “Heroes will come of this, and it won’t be Mueller”

    This file, in the hands of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees as well as Trump’s lawyers, may have helped seal a ‘deal’ in which Trump is left untouched, whilst Mueller too (and Hillary etc as well?) get a pass on crimes that might have put Robert Mueller himself behind bars.

    ‘Report on evidence of felonies violating Civil Rights, and bribery by foreign agents, implicating United States Special Counsel Robert S Mueller III as a criminally-tainted agent of foreign & racketeering interests’
    https://www.docdroid.net/eVAAjIq/doj-ig-memo-mueller-bribery-extortion.pdf

    • Replies: @Travis
  9. Travis says:
    @Brabantian

    Hopefully they will prosecute the conspirators who started this witch hunt. Need to incarcerate Comey, McCabe, Christopher Steele, Professor Joseph Mifsud and CIA operative Stefan Halper along with Rosenstein and his cronies at the DOJ who obtained illegal FISA warrants to spy on Trump and his associates.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  10. They did not get the icing, but they did get the cake.

    The agenda I voted for is barely recognizable.

    Gloating on this question is over rated. Anti-climactic.

    Like, no kidding.

    Still it’s not over . . not yet.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  11. anonymous[140] • Disclaimer says:

    The whole thing was beyond stupid from the very beginning. Shows how many people out there could suspend their rational judgement in favor of some fantasy about the Russians pulling the strings on everything, people who have gone to name-brand schools and who have responsible jobs. Overhearing some of the conversations at the local park where well-to-do types walk their dogs and chit-chat, the level of Trump hatred is astounding and downright irrational to me. These are all high earners of one sort or another and I realize we have nothing in common. There’s no getting along with this segment of the population, they’ll have to be pulled by a nose ring.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  12. 216 says:

    It’s pointless to argue, but why can’t we deplatform her for being anti-white?

    Over and over she indicates her hatred of white Christians, but never makes aliyah. What then is her intent, other than to torment and humiliate us?

  13. Anon7 says:

    I don’t think the Mueller report will make any difference. By the end of the week, it will be fake news as usual. The main reason is that the conditions that made the Mueller Investigation happen have not changed.

    Democrats are still in extreme cognitive dissonance over the results of the last election. Rather than saying “that’s an unexpected result – we need to learn more about why so many Americans voted for Mr. Trump” – which would have resulted in a profound change of worldview – they chose to believe that Russia did it. Democrats simply cannot believe that so many Americans repudiate their Leftist Socialist LGBTQ+ View of the world, and instead support a free America with strong borders in which citizens stand on their own two feet and require all non-citizens to return to their homes.

    Democrats who can’t accept that President Trump won the election fair and square are like Republicans who believe that Barack Obama was not a US citizen with a legal birth certificate. They are delusional, Republicans and Democrats both, who take refuge in dreams or wish fulfillment rather than do the hard work of trying to see the world as it is.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  14. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says: • Website

    Maybe Geraldo Rivera knows where the secret is hidden

  15. @Travis

    Obama’s CIA director and Muslim Brotherhood operative John Brennan was probably the ringleader of the cabal who attempted the soft coup of Trump. Brennan needs to face justice. But he probably will remain free, and prosperous, like the rest of them. If these deep state bureaucrats go unpunished then the rule of law bit goes out the window. Banana Republic here we come.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  16. Michael S says:

    I want to see the favorable-view stats for after the release. I’ll bet they haven’t changed much.

  17. @216

    “What then is her intent …”

    Like all committed Zionists who specialize in propaganda, her mission is to make sure that Jews remain at the top of the victimhood pyramid.

  18. anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    “You won’t see a Larry Elder or Candace Owens cucks the way a white cuckservative would.”

    I wonder how much of that is genetic. Obviously, the protection provided by SWPL society plays a part, but Africans also have higher T levels and more of them have the Warrior Gene. White liberals, on the other hand, seem to rely less on brute intimidation and more on duplicitous lying and various other social strategies.

  19. @216

    “What then is her intent, other than to torment and humiliate us?”

    Tormenting and humiliating is probably as good as it gets.

    “What is good in life?”

  20. @216

    “what then is (((her))) intent?”

    (((they))) intend to kill us. All

    of us. And

    the process is well underway:

    % of world population that is White:

    1900: 30%

    2ooo: 8%

    2100: extinct

    • Agree: neutral
  21. anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon7

    What if I told you that, opinions of the possibility of the birther scandal have shifted.

    • Replies: @Anon7
  22. Anon7 says:
    @anonymous

    I’d like to know more about that.

    As far as I know, about 70% of Republicans believed it in 2016, and about 50% in 2018. But if you know otherwise, I’d like to know.

    My cynical belief is that even if Mr. Trump is re-elected, most Democrats will still believe in Russia collusion in 2024.

    • Agree: Bruce County
  23. Truth says:

    Camacho Wins Again!

  24. @MikeatMikedotMike

    The latest stories say Trump will win 2020. I think after Mueller report and the Smollet hoax bullshit more of the hidden republican voters will come out. The numbers and past stats support a majority Trump victory in 2020. Who friigin knows.. its a crap shoot.

  25. @Haxo Angmark

    By all accounts these numbers seem to refute your claim. But its true we will become extinct. I will be dead so i dont care. Its too late to turn things back or even stem the tide of the browing of the world. The planet will be covered in mud huts and browns killing each other with spears.

  26. @Thomm

    That observation seems orthogonal to this post. What I see is evidence that the 2D left-right spectrum, as suboptimal as it is for whites, has even less utility for understanding non-whites.

  27. @Prof. Woland

    Agree.

    The release date is intended to be far enough after the mid-terms to retain plausible deniability that they didn’t know the outcome before the elections but also far enough out from the 2020 presidential election so as not to help Trump that much (though it undeniably boosts his prospects to some extent).

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
  28. @iffen

    This one was built up so much and sustained for so long that there is a difference in degree. I’ve teased a couple of mainstream Democrats over the last couple of days about the release and the best they can come up with is to sheepishly say “looks like it wasn’t a witch hunt after all”. Yeah, suck on that, Drumpf!

  29. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Nothing I’ll dispute there. That said, the entire Russia Hoax monstrosity was not a good thing net-net, but this outcome is.

  30. @216

    Is anyone tormented or humiliated by Ioffe? I assume she’s a midwit embarrassment who had to be given something to do. She’s not quite as harmful to her own cause as someone like Bill Kristol, but it’s close.

  31. @Haxo Angmark

    Then they are the scorpion on the frog’s back. Outside of Israel itself, Jewish fertility is even lower than white gentile fertility is.

  32. Corvinus says:

    “A few of the most zealous believers will cling to the attendant statement that while two years, a bazillion dollars, and a gazillion investigatory man-hours couldn’t turn up a shred of evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia.”

    You simply do not have the acumen to comprehend the differences between legal terms. I will explain it in terms that hopefully you can understand.

    Barr concluded that Mueller:

    1. did not have enough proof of obstruction to convict.

    2. did not find enough proof of conspiracy to convict, but does not offer judgement on the proof of obstruction he found.

    PROOF is defined as any evidence that tends to make your position on a matter in a dispute more likely. INDICTMENTS require a certain amount of PROOF on whether a defendant is guilty or innocent. The level of PROOF required for a prosecutor to get an INDICTMENT of a defendant–the amount of evidence on the question whether a suspect is guilty that a prosecutor must have to move a case into the criminal justice system–is set at the level of PROBABLE CAUSE.

    When a prosecutor says “I do not have enough proof to bring an indictment”, it means there is “insufficient proof” on a matter of dispute–the suspect’s guilt–to reach the “probable cause” standard of proof required for indictment. Trump’s defenders say there is “no evidence/no proof” of collusion. Except there was PROOF. Mueller has tons of it in his report after nearly two years of investigating. Mueller MET the PROBABLE CAUSE standard.

    The issue is that Mueller needed to have PROOF at a much higher level than PROBABLE CAUSE to secure a conviction. To secure a CONVICTION means a prosecutor must have PROOF that is BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT–a term meaning a decision by a judge or jury that a given defendant is in fact guilty.

    Under the ethical guidelines governing Mueller’s work, he is not supposed to seek an INDICTMENT of a defendant unless and until he believed he had enough PROOF to secure a CONVICTION as well. He had enough PROOF at the PROBABLE CAUSE level to get an INDICTMENT–it is detailed in his report–but he believes a jury will not CONVICT the defendant because there is not PROOF BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

    There are two standards here–the media is mixing up the terms really badly.

    Mueller could proceed with the case–he could INDICT the defendant since there is enough PROOF, but he chose not to because he cannot CONVICT him. Why? The standard for BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT is that the PROOF must be at a 90% level to secure a CONVICTION. Mueller in his report provided the percentages of his PROOF. PROBABLE CAUSE is 25% of PROOF that someone committed a crime, while BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT is 90%.

    You need to distinguish EVIDENCE and PROOF. In short, PROOF is a *type* of EVIDENCE. When Trump defenders say “no EVIDENCE” what they actually mean is “no PROOF”—though they are ridiculously misstating their case in both instances. Mueller had PROOF of conspiracy enough to INDICT (at the level of PROBABLE CAUSE). But he did not have the PROOF that was BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT (necessary for a CONVICTION). Remember, Mueller was conducting a narrow scope of the overall collusion question (which there are almost two dozen ongoing investigations on this and other matters)–whether Trump was engaged in a “conspiracy” with two Russian entities, the IRA or the GRU.

    Since one can collude through obstruction of justice, and because Mueller did say he found PROOF of that crime, we know he found PROOF of COLLUSION…just not enough to secure a CONVICTION. Moreover, Congress does NOT require PROOF that is BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT to deem someone a national security threat. That is up to each member of Congress.

    Mueller performed honorably. More than likely, he farmed out several cases to other jurisdictions because it was not under his purview to delver further into those matters. But he did find PROOF in several other areas during the course of his investigation that has resulted in other jurisdictions looking into Trump and his associated.

    So, AE, do you have any issue if the public and Congress is able to view the full Mueller Report?

    • Replies: @Paul Yarbles
  33. ethical guidelines governing Mueller’s work

    LOL!

    So, AE, do you have any issue if the public and Congress is able to view the full Mueller Report?

    Not at all. When have I ever acted in opposition to the Animal House aphorism that knowledge is good?

    Likewise, I assume you would have no issue with a special investigation being opened into the cause of the Mueller special investigation being opened to begin with.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  34. @Corvinus

    Now that all the anti Trump Russian collusion nonsense you have been promoting has blown up, you pop up like fungus all over Unz repeating the same stupid back up anti Trump nonsense. How long can you keep up belief in your fantasy? It must be difficult. What will be your next ORANGEMANGUILTY talking point when this one bears no fruit?

    You probably were once not stupid. It sad to see what a few billion TDS ameboids can do to a once probably not so retarded brain!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  35. @Audacious Epigone

    Not to say I told you so but I told you so. CNBC’s and CNN’s ratings crashed right after Mueller’s report came out. Apparently half of their viewers were using them as safe spaces and once the bubble was pricked, they all had amygdala meltdowns.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  36. Corvinus says:
    @Paul Yarbles

    “Now that all the anti Trump Russian collusion nonsense you have been promoting has blown up…”

    LOL. I explained clearly and concisely the differences in legal terms. What is your response? Girlish banter. Try to muster up a cogent response to the points I present rather than an emotional response.

    • Replies: @Paul Yarbles
  37. Corvinus says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    “ethical guidelines governing Mueller’s work–LOL!”

    Had Mueller chose not to follow the current thought that a sitting president cannot be indicted, he would have done so regardless of the implications. Besides, his bosses had the authority to shut him down if he was engaging in unethical conduct. You are way in over your head here. Quit while you are behind.

    “When have I ever acted in opposition to the Animal House aphorism that knowledge is good?”

    Then why is not Trump ordering its immediate release especially if he {allegedly) was “completely exonerated”?

    “Likewise, I assume you would have no issue with a special investigation being opened into the cause of the Mueller special investigation being opened to begin with.”

    Absolutely, considering Trump and associated stated repeated that Mueller was engaged in a conspiracy…then turned around and supported the findings, with his administration even suggesting that Mueller was ethical in his conduct. Seems you have a contradiction on your hands. Of course, the “findings” were a four page summary of a report over 700 pages long that are woefully short on specific details.

    Why don’t you lay it out all for your audience how and why a special investigation of Mueller must be undertaken? Do not forget to clearly outline the legal terms involved. It should take some time to write a substantive post on the matter. Or perhaps, yet again, you are way in over your head here. I suggest you quit while you are behind.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  38. @Corvinus

    Cucky Corvy, legal smegal. What do YOU care about legality? Just a bunch of words for you to use as a blanket to cover up the horrible cognitive dissonance you are experiencing. It must be painful and so, instead of hating you, I pity you.

    Let me explain your history. Because of your unhealthy lifestyle, you have contracted the horrible disease of TDS. This has made you detest the Orange President to such a degree that you have lost touch with reality. You and your comrade in TDS, Max Boot, now live 24/7 in a fantasy where our president has conspired with the evil Russkies.

    But it’s all FAKE. Now that the lack of any evidence supporting your diseased world view is making your delusions crystal clear, you pathetically kick the can of fantasy down the road a bit using some legalistic words. What will you do when your latest rationalizations are shown to be empty? What will you do when the can of fantasy becomes too big to kick any further.? I shudder to think of your state then!

    Please, Cucky Corvy, get help! Stop the progression of the TDS. Kill the TDS ameboids in your brain instead of feeding them. Don’t you know they live off of sick hopes?

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  39. @Corvinus

    Trump himself had the authority to shut Mueller down. Optics matter in politics.

    Would you want 700 pages of personal information involving yourself, your family, and those you work with that were rummaged through on laughably bogus charges released to the public?

    The supposed impetus of the investigation was a risibly fake ‘dossier’, paid for by the Clinton campaign with the tacit approval of the FBI. The damage this entire temper tantrum over a lost election has done to already plummeting levels of social trust in American institutions is incalculable.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  40. Corvinus says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    “Trump himself had the authority to shut Mueller down. Optics matter in politics.”

    Not directly. Only by “an order” to the Attorney General. Trump could not have tweeted a declaration that it was over. The investigation is guided by a set of Justice Department regulations that the Attorney General deemed “applicable to the Special Counsel” in his appointment order. It would have to be the Attorney General, under 28 CFR 600.7(b), to order Mueller not to pursue “any investigative or prosecutorial step,” but only if the Attorney General concluded, after giving the Special Counsel’s views “great weight,” that his proposed step was “inappropriate or unwarranted under established Departmental practices”. The Attorney General could also in theory remove the Special Prosecutor from office under 28 CFR 600.7(d), but only for “misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies”. If the Attorney General took either course, he would need to justify his actions in writing to Congress.

    Besides, if Trump believed it was a witch hunt from the jump, and the “God-Emperor” (lol) was truly serious about draining the swamp, he would have shuttered it and torn it down brick by brick.

    “Would you want 700 pages of personal information involving yourself, your family, and those you work with that were rummaged through on laughably bogus charges released to the public?”

    Assuming the charges are bogus. Besides, Trump is the face of the franchise. He is not above the law. He put himself in this position when his friends chose to break several laws under his watch. Is there not accountability?

    You know damn well if this was Shitlery, you would be calling for the immediate release for that report…and for good reason. IF Trump’s proclamation that he was “completely exonerated” is accurate, he has little to fear if the report is released to the American public. What are you afraid of?

    Just be consistent here, AE. You keep getting to the surface to take a breath, only to get pulled down by the undercurrent.

    “The supposed impetus of the investigation was a risibly fake ‘dossier’, paid for by the Clinton campaign with the tacit approval of the FBI.”

    Hitting all the talking points I see. Actually, a Republican media firm, Washington Free Bacon, paid to Fusion to get information on Trump during the primaries. When Trump became the Republican nominee, the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party began picking up the tab for the Fusion research. Fusion owner Glenn Simpson hired Steele, a Russia expert, to gather information from his sources in Russia. The FBI had received word separate from Steele from several sources in Europe regarding Trump’s contacts with Russian intelligence officers. Steele’s dossier was raw intelligence by a man with dozens of years in the field as a reliable agent.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-dossier-retrospective

    “The damage this entire temper tantrum over a lost election has done to already plummeting levels of social trust in American institutions is incalculable.”

    LOL.

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