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Both high–in the case of the cathedral of Notre Dame–and low, in the streets of San Francisco:

Between 2011 and 2018, San Francisco experienced a massive increase in reported incidents of human feces found on public streets.

In 2011, just over 5,500 reports were logged by the San Francisco Department of Public Works; in 2018, the number increased to more than 28,000.

That works out to a public poop incident being reported every 19 minutes, day and night. The absolute rate of public defecation must be higher, probably considerably so. What percentage of people take the time to log official complaints of particular encounters rather than merely shaking their heads as they go on their way?

Back to the conflagration:

Victor Hugo’s “The Hunchback of Notre-Dame” shot to the top of the Amazon bestseller list Tuesday as firefighters damped down the embers of the blaze which ravaged the ancient cathedral.

The original French version of the gothic novel, “Notre-Dame de Paris”, became the fastest selling book in France and is also a number one bestseller worldwide in English in two sub-categories of historical fiction.

The Disney animated movie version of the story also rocketed into the top 10 of family films.

Don’t know what you’ve got ’til it’s gone. We’ll finally collectively realize what a precious thing we’ve lost when all we see in every direction is rubble.

 
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  1. Chewie111 says:

    If your going to Poo Francisco…..

    • Replies: @Dr. Doom
  2. Can’t you say “shit”? Cheeziz K. Rist. You speak of civilizational collapse and yet you can’t say shit but use baby talk. You are the collapser.

    • Troll: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  3. Talha says:

    Hmmm…could add anew twist to those RTS games where your civilization can actually regress and the sign of it is increasing fecal matter in your capital and settlements and thus you have to invest resources into producing the specialized unit that can take care of it (else face further regression and loss of bonuses):

    http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/The_Poopsmith

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Jack Highlands
  4. ABigThink says:

    They should show any “modern” architect who tries to propose a re-design the guillotine.

  5. LondonBob says:

    The old boiling a frog problem. There does become a point when you realise you are dying.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  6. Realist says:

    This country is on a shit slide to hell.

  7. Mitleser says:

    Shit Francisco = shithole country?

  8. Karel says:

    Well, it is a sign of a healthy growth and growth is always good as it contributes to the GNP. Could anyone dare to compute the exact percentage of such a contribution? One can easily tax this shit and thus increase the income of the local authorities.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
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    • LOL: Jason Liu, WHAT
  10. That works out to a public poop incident being reported every 19 minutes, day and night.

    At night? (“Hey, Miss 9-11, I just got home and it turns out I stepped in some poo somewhere between the gay bar district and that curviest road, you know, that they feature in all the old movies with car chase scenes. Yeah, well, I also stopped in at a Hookah store for a black-light Dead poster …. Yeah, keep me posted if you find the poop perp”.)

    Hey, you’re the stats man, right? OK, in seriousness, thanks for the link to Big Yellow Taxi, one of Joni’s best songs. Some of us DO see all the decay of civilization occuring over the years. It took me a while to even realize that it could be possible – probably by about 15 years back, but once my awareness was up, I could pick out the rot in about every facet of life in these United States.

    It’s no accident that my blog is Peak Stupidity. (Plus, I was lucky the URL was available.)

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  11. iffen says:

    It’s a good thing that all civilizations are equally valuable.

    Seriously, are there any Catholics left in France? How close are the French people from being a completely different people, culturally and genetically, from the people who built and maintained Notre Dame? If that’s not who you are anymore, what’s the point? If it is something that can be retconned, like the Statue of Liberty for example, then I can see the value in restoration. All you blackpilled folks need to start taking a stand for allowed destruction and benign neglect of the cultural icons and symbols, that is, if you believe what you are pushing.

    • Replies: @Talha
  12. vok3 says:

    The French countryside is almost pure ethnic French. The cities are where the replacement has been happening. Those ethnic French who still live in the cities nearly all have strong ties to specific rural communities.

    If the war does finally break out, it will totally be winnable; the cities can be starved. Not one of the browns has the skills, knowledge, or inclination to produce their own food.

    • Replies: @iffen
  13. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Interesting, I didn’t know this but apparently plenty of old churches are being actively destroyed in France by the government because of costs to maintain them, like this one:

    This article gives insights into why; the government actually appropriated all the churches in early 1900s and was maintaining them, but now doesn’t:
    https://m.dw.com/en/historic-french-churches-face-demolition/a-16122874

    It kind of makes sense, do current day French want to pay for churches that many don’t attend? It’s a question they have to ultimately answer since this stuff costs money.

    Peace.

  14. @Talha

    Better than letting it be converted to a mosque, though if The Great Replacement is a fait accompli then maybe the vestiges of a superior predecessor would be better than few traces left to remind.

    • Replies: @Talha
  15. Turds on the street are an appropriate stage in the decline, because of course public sanitation and closed sewers were one of the first developments in the rise of modern urbanized European civilization.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  16. iffen says:
    @Talha

    In my neck of the woods, many “white” churches in cities and inner suburbs have been “taken over” by blacks over the last 40-50 years.

    • Replies: @Talha
  17. iffen says:
    @vok3

    If the war does finally break out, it will totally be winnable; the cities can be starved.

    The elites and cities have been taken the food from the starving peasants for several millennia. I suppose history can always be subverted.

  18. Anon[283] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    If you’re going to San Francisco, be sure to bring some toilet paper there.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  19. @iffen

    I suppose history can always be subverted.

    That’s what the good old 2nd Amendment has always been about, not duck hunting, not particularly even the (obvious) right to self-defense. If you don’t like the NRA, who have cucked-out majorly in the past, there is the Gun Owners of America.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @95Theses
  20. iffen says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s what the good old 2nd Amendment has always been about

    Maybe 300 years ago. If you want to defend yourself against the military, you will need to get a woke Supreme Court that will allow possession of grenade launchers, tanks, planes, etc.

  21. Mark G. says:

    Aside from defecating on the street, the increasing homeless population in San Francisco is going to lead to greater problems such as the trash they create and don’t pick up and dispose of leading to more rats, leading to more fleas on rats, leading to typhus outbreaks. So the feces and trash filled sidewalks and streets are not just an aesthetic problem. It’s a potential public health problem.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  22. Talha says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    Muslims generally used to leave those old places in the areas they took over for that same reminder. You still see amphitheaters in North Africa as remnants of the Romans not to mention in places like Iran. It’s good to take heed, as the Qur’an states:
    “…Turn unto God for aid, and have patience in adversity. Verily, all the earth belongs to God: He gives it as an inheritance to such as He wills of His servants; and the future belongs to the God-conscious.” (7:128)

    So yeah, Muslims (if they do end up taking over) will hopefully take heed as with the other great and accomplished civilizations that went by the wayside; material prosperity means nothing if you turn your back on the Divine and It decides to simply replaces you with others.

    “And be not like those who forgot Allah, so He made them forget themselves. Those are the disobedient.” (59:19)

    You still seem to think it’s about you and us…

    Peace.

  23. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Interesting; are Whites less likely to attend church in your area?

    Peace.

  24. 95Theses says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s what the good old 2nd Amendment has always been about, not duck hunting, not particularly even the (obvious) right to self-defense.

    Spot-on! In fact, strictly speaking, the intended function of the Second Amendment has yet to effect its full utility. Although, if New Zealand is a harbinger of things to come, that day may not be far in the offing.

  25. songbird says:

    I wonder if anyone has tried to collect them and take DNA samples from them. I think it would be pretty interesting – you would probably find a lot of schizophrenia genes.

    On a tangent, they should release the ethnicity results of all the fecal desecrations in churches in Europe.

  26. notanon says:
    @iffen

    Donbass, Afghan, Iraq etc shows a militia can win with light AA and AT weapons

  27. The CDC can’t seriously look epidemics that even might be microbiome-related, like autism and obesity because they are accountable to a government dominated by immigration fanatics. Anything related to human ecology is basically off-limits to serious investigation, which includes not only epidemiology but the social sciences in general.

    This really could kill us all.

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
  28. notanon says:

    infrastructure collapse is inevitable if you let your average productivity go down.

    say you start with a certain level of productivity, taxation and infrastructure and then you allow your average productivity to decline e.g. by importing lots of people to do below average productivity work (e.g. California), then your infrastructure has to service more people but with a reduced per capita tax base so you won’t be able to maintain the same level of infrastructure without increasing taxation on higher earners to compensate but if you increase taxation on them too much they start to leave (e.g. California) and you make it worse.

    most likely outcome is two-tier infrastructure: 1st world within certain enclaves and 3rd world outside of those enclaves.

  29. Lot says:

    I have a local gov app that lets me take a quick geolocation pic to report minor quality of life issues like bums, illegal parking and potholes. It came out around 2016.

    If SF has the same, this could just reflect easier and higher rate of reporting.

    I haven’t really seen a serious increase in homeless problems there over the past decade. It is a really bad problem there, just doesn’t seem to be getting worse. If anything, junkie-central Tenderloin is getting smaller and gentrified, and SOMA now has far more young tech co nerds with ironic T-shirts than bums.

    SF crime mostly comes from the projects in the city and “youths” commuting in. But the project population is aging in place, and all the areas in commuting distance are becoming extremely expensive. The number of proles with ultra cheap rent controlled apartments is also declining every year due to owner move in evictions.

  30. 216 says:

    o/t

    If you’ve seen the leftist blue checks remarking about “Easter worshippers” in Sri Lanka.

    The proximate cause is their fear of “stochastic terrorism”, they avoid saying Christians in order to avoid retaliatory attacks.

    I do think there is some kind of Journolist coordination going on here.

  31. @216

    I do think there is some kind of Journolist coordination going on here.

    Journolist brings in Dave Weigel.

    Dave Weigel gets the Wellll DUHHH! of the year award for this Tweet suggesting that Trump’s devotion to donors will hurt him somewhere on down the line.

    Trump is a whore for Jew billionaire GOP donor Shelly Adelson.

    Shelly Adelson pushes mass legal immigration and illegal immigration and more and more unnecessary war on behalf of Israel. Shelly Adelson doesn’t give a damn about the USA. Shelly Adelson’s devotion and heart belong to Israel. Shelly Adelson puts Israel first and the USA last.

    Trump, to his credit, hasn’t nuked Iran or started a war with Iran, yet.

    We don’t have a civilization in the USA — we have asset bubbles.

    One group wants the asset bubbles to implode and the other group benefits from the asset bubbles.

    That’s part of the reason why Civil War II is on its way.

    Dave Weigel should be appreciated for talking to voters and candidates and other people on the ground and for his refusal to take any guff from the boobs who do the data journalism.

    How about do both? — Data journalism combined with trying to decipher what the spirit of the age is?

    Numbers nutcakes don’t tell the full tale!

    Of course Trump is vulnerable on the donor question, Weigel!

    Adelson and Israel and China get a pass while the ruling class focuses on Russia and the Koch boys. Take a guess why, DAMMIT!

    • Replies: @216
  32. 216 says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    And here it is

    Nationalize Amazon

  33. RSDB says:
    @Talha

    Talha,

    Speaking of destruction of churches …

    I’m a part-Ceylonese commenter who’s been on this site in the past. You may or may not have noticed but I’ve been off here for a while, which is intentional (mostly for time reasons), but I’ve had some good interaction with people here in the past, including you, and I think I owe it just to say I’m not dead, and pretty-near-miraculously though a lot of them go to St. Anthony’s, my family isn’t either.

    Apologies if I’m being melodramatic.

    • Replies: @Talha
  34. Cyrano says:

    I think it’s a conspiracy. It’s well known that most call center IT jobs have been outsourced to India. And since defecating in the streets is one of the favorite Indian pastimes, I think that the San Francisco IT industry is trying to repatriate the IT jobs by luring Indian IT professionals with clever replicas of the Indian customs. Basically, they are trying to create a little India in San Francisco, so potential IT employees from the subcontinent will feel right at home.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  35. @James Bowery

    I’ve wondered about the connection between the gut microbiome, immigration and obesity. We have let in all of these brown people from tropical ecosystems to harvest, handle and serve our food, so this has probably introduced incompatible microflora into our bodies.

    For example, my hillbilly grandmother, along with similar women, worked in a chicken-processing plant in northwest Arkansas back in the 1970’s. Now these companies have brought in Mexicans and people from the Marshall Islands in the Pacific, of all places, to hold these jobs, like the state has run out of poor white people who still show a reasonable work ethic towards paid unpleasant tasks. This practice has probably contaminated our supply of raw chicken in some nonobvious ways.

    I would add that my hillbilly kinfolk don’t come across as the sharpest white people, but they look like graduates of Starfleet Academy compared to the Marshallese.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/05/us/for-marshall-islanders-hopes-and-troubles-in-arkansas.html

  36. @Lockean Proviso

    The normalization of male homosexuality signaled the collapse of our society’s progress in public health. You simply can’t reconcile the practices of anal intercourse, anus licking, prostate massage, fisting and other fecally-oriented dysfunctions with the modern model of infectious diseases and how to control their propagation. We see this contradiction in all the effort that goes into teaching children and immigrants the importance of washing their hands after they use the bathroom and before they handle food, while at the same time our society just ignores these precautions regarding gays because we don’t want to embarrass and inconvenience the gay men who routinely compromise the boundaries between anus and mouth.

  37. iffen says:
    @Talha

    I don’t know the numbers, but I assume that we are becoming less churched along with the rest of the US, perhaps starting from a higher base and declining less rapidly would be my guess.

    I started re-reading some fiction. I found this interesting example of woke and tolerant country folk.

    “The Lord can see into the heart. If it is His will that some folks has different ideas of honesty from other folks, it is not my place to question His decree.”

    W. Faulkner, As I Lay Dying

    • Replies: @Talha
  38. Talha says:
    @RSDB

    Glad you and family are safe, bro. I was actually wondering about you when I first heard about this. I pray for a quick recovery for all those that are injured and may God grant patience and solace to those that lost loved ones.

    And, in the words of Shaykh Hamza Maqbul:
    “I pray that the perpetrators be brought to justice & be given exemplary punishment for their desecration of the churches of Sri Lanka.”

    I’d suggest the punishment for hiraba for anyone guilty of organizing this vile act. Hopefully, publicly crucifying the bodies of these kinds of thugs will deter others.

    Stay safe.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @RSDB
  39. notanon says:
    @advancedatheist

    the medical profession know anal sex is more dangerous but they won’t admit it cos they’re scared of being attacked by the media.

    “first do no harm”

  40. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Interesting quote.

    I started re-reading some fiction.

    Indeed, I just bought a used copy of Blood Meridian today. Good writers are a blessing and a treat.

    Also bought a concise summary of the Crusades from a military strategy/tactical perspective by Prof. David Nicolle. Both will likely be interrupted (as will my comments on Unz) by Ramadan.

    Peace.

  41. WTF is happening in San Francisco? I mean it seems that not even Negroids consistently shit on streets without the shit getting cleaned up everywhere. So there must be something SF-specific going on.

  42. @Talha

    In Pennsylvania, at least, as is much of the case elsewhere, whites have abandoned mainline Prot/Catholic membership in large numbers. Those who still attend church have increasingly switched to “non-denominational” Protestantism, which attracts some boomers and hipsters by marketing campaigns designed to make “church” seem “cool” – that is, less church-like.

    • Replies: @c matt
  43. @Talha

    Muslims generally used to leave those old places in the areas they took over for that same reminder.

    I am from an historically agricultural region, but I have experience with the urban “rust belt” that was once the heartland of the American Catholic Church.

    Once the Catholic Church’s churches began to lose members in the 1960s, huge numbers of them were closed. Most were simply abandoned, and eventually demolished. But not all – many got taken over by black Protestants and, now, Muslims.

    Off the top of my head, you will find plenty of former Catholic parishes turned into Muslim mosques in cities such as Cleveland, Philadelphia, and Detroit.

    I was told there were “refugees” from Iraq in the city of Buffalo, New York turning Polish and German parishes into mosques. I observed some of these Muslims walking around their new neighborhoods but was unable to ascertain their specific background.

    That’s the U.S. government for you: help destroy inner city Catholic community, then, decades later, kill a couple hundred thousand Muslims and blow up all their stuff so they have to come live in the wintry paradise that is Buffalo, New York.

    I have no idea if these “refugees” were Sunni, Shiite, or whatever.

    Obviously any really informed Catholic finds this bizarre. The Latin Mass – the real Catholic form of worship – has very specific theology and really should have a church custom-built for it. I have attended Mass in former Protestant churches; it’s just a bit weird. I do not know enough about Muslim worship customs to know how they are affected by using buildings specifically designed for a different faith.

    • Agree: Endgame Napoleon
    • Replies: @Talha
  44. @Talha

    As the Yellow Vests diss Notre Dame’s benefactors, saying a reluctant big government should fund the restoration, they are going to find out that what sets France apart as a tourist destination and as a First World nation is the beautiful architecture and the other art. It is easy to dismiss the economic impact of first-rate artwork that takes so much effort to create, but rarely results in personal wealth for the artists and artisans. It is easier to see the economic value of things like the medical profession, with its universally well-paid workers or utilitarian engineers. This particular nation, more than others, will find out that art is the most important part of its heritage, national and economic strength.

    As for the swaggering non-s*******e country across the Atlantic and poop, I have read that public sanitation is the biggest element that increased life expectancy for modern humans. It was not modern medicine, but the absence of public poop, so mayhe, America’s 3 years of falling life expectancy can be attributed to the absence of affordable housing. Public sanitation is probably one of the great levelers in life, affecting both the lords and the serfs. Nineteenth century novels are full of affluent characters, succumbing to all kinds of ailments that sound unfamiliar to modern ears. It might have been the less accessible public sanitation. Carry on, top 20%er Americans. You’re such good stewards of the economy and all of its unfortunate social offshoots.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Talha
  45. @Achmed E. Newman

    Tom Woods often mentions incredulously that certain domain names are available for him to snatch up that he can’t believe are still unclaimed.

  46. @Lockean Proviso

    Right. The Romans knew how to deal with the problem.

  47. @iffen

    There is no defending yourself against the military–besides bringing the military to your side, that is.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Mr. Rational
  48. res says:
    @EastKekistani

    WTF is happening in San Francisco? I mean it seems that not even Negroids consistently shit on streets without the shit getting cleaned up everywhere. So there must be something SF-specific going on.

    I suspect a big part of it is simple lack of public restrooms: https://sf.curbed.com/2016/12/5/13845276/bathrooms-san-francisco-sf

    Homeless people tend to make public restrooms either uninhabitable or uneconomic to maintain. Then they (the restrooms, not the homeless) go away.

    Clean and easily available public restrooms are one of the nice things we can’t have anymore.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @iffen
    , @EastKekistani
  49. iffen says:
    @res

    Clean and easily available public restrooms are one of the nice things we can’t have anymore.

    It’s a puzzlement. Lots of public stuff and space on the downhill slide these days.

  50. @res

    I suspect a big part of it is simple lack of public restrooms:

    I see. But why isn’t this that much of a problem outside the West Coast?

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @res
  51. 216 says:

    o/t

    Unironic disagree

    If you don’t live in MN-5, Omar is not your concern. If you are white/straight/male, moderates will discount most criticism you make of her.

    Omar scares the Jews, we need every distraction possible so the ADLbb doesn’t focus on us.

    Look around, find a local white/straight/gentile/male Dem to attack. Sadly, there are still many of them around.

    Omar only loses in a Dem primary. But the incumbents in MN-2 and MN-3 could lose to Republicans.

    We don’t need to make it any harder than it already is.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  52. notanon says:
    @EastKekistani

    mass immigration
    -> lower wages + higher housing costs
    -> least capable people end up on the streets
    -> homeless people move to where it’s warm

  53. @notanon

    I see. Why isn’t that the case in Texas or Florida then?

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @res
  54. @notanon

    If it is really mostly due to the tech industry maybe it is indeed time for it to be relocated to Hawaii. We should just declare that Hawaii is inherently quadraracial (Europeans, NE Asians, Indians and Austronesians).

    There is clearly a need for the tech industry and it does need to be multiracial and tends to cause housing prices to rapidly increase. Then why not move it to a place like Hawaii since it is already multiracial and housing there is already expensive?

  55. @obwandiyag

    Nigeria set to overtake India in open defecation rankings.

    First remove the beam that is in your own eye, Ol’ Windy Bag, and the shit that is in your homeland’s streets.

    Better yet, just go back and cease to bother us… while you still can.

  56. notanon says:
    @EastKekistani

    good question

    i’ve been assuming it was the climate but now you mention it must be something else instead (or in addition).

  57. @iffen

    The elites and cities have been taken the food from the starving peasants for several millennia.

    The elites and cities have never been dependent upon supplies of water, fuel and electricity that they can’t secure either.  Blow up a petroleum pipeline in Georgia, and there’s no diesel fuel delivered in New York.  That pipeline gets fed in Texas and Lousiana.  Blow the power lines from Indian Point to NYC, and NYC has rolling blackouts immediately.  Blow the natural gas pipelines from Pennsylvania at the same time in winter, and NYC literally freezes in the dark.

    I suppose history can always be subverted.

    Never has the elite’s hold on power been set on such fragile foundations.  The hardest job would be to seal off the airports and such so that the likes of Soros cannot get out.  That’s hard because it’s dealing with a few hundred or thousand people with tons of resources and options, not their massive plantation of vote-farmed nebbishes.  Without water, power, fuel or food, the nebbishes will die of starvation, hypothermia or dysentery within a mile or two of where they live.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  58. @Mark G.

    So the feces and trash filled sidewalks and streets are … a potential public health problem.

    Already epidemic in Lost [sic] Angeles.

  59. Twinkie says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    There is no defending yourself against the military–besides bringing the military to your side, that is.

    I disagree most vehemently, and suggest you read The Transformation of a War by Martin van Creveld if you haven’t yet.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  60. res says:
    @EastKekistani

    But why isn’t this that much of a problem outside the West Coast?

    A good question. Two reasons come to mind.
    1. Milder climate (so easier to live outside).
    2. More toleration of the homeless and their antics in West Coast cities.

  61. res says:
    @EastKekistani

    Why isn’t that the case in Texas or Florida then?

    I suspect part of the reasons is that Texans put up with less of the nonsense. Or at least don’t actively enable it. For example see this article and an excerpt which gives an idea of how clueless bleeding hearts deal with things: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2018/11/07/homeless-in-san-francisco-taxed-to-texas

    Yesterday, voters in San Francisco approved a $300 million-per-year tax on business earmarked to help the city’s burgeoning homeless population, estimated to number about 7,000 in a city of 884,000.

    The measure will likely suffer from a double backfire in that it will result in more homelessness while shrinking the city’s tax base.

    I mean the theory is to tax what you desire more of and subsidize what you want to decrease. Right? Or something like that.

    Also from that article:

    California’s homeless population was estimated in 2016 to be 97,660. HUD estimated homelessness in Texas to be 15,959 that year. Thus, while California’s 39.5 million population is 39.6% larger than Texas’ 28.3 million, its homeless population is 512% larger.

    Home prices are also probably part of the problem.

    I’m not sure about Florida. It would be good to hear from someone who knows more about it. They seem to be having a bit of this problem based on this article (note the restroom cost $300k and requires an attendant to keep it clean and enforce the rules).
    http://sfns.online/restroom-in-downtown-miami-improving-lives-for-homeless/

    • Replies: @songbird
  62. @Audacious Epigone

    There is being where the military cannot find you.  This is key to guerrila movements.

  63. @216

    People keep using “ADLbb” but I can’t find a definition for it, not even on Urban Dictionary.

    • Replies: @216
  64. @216

    That phrase essentially did not exist until two days ago. See my most recent post. Bizarre. The NPC thing isn’t a meme–it’s this simulation’s reality. I am living in a simulation! You aren’t even real, pal.

  65. @advancedatheist

    “feral blacks” causes schoolmarm to grit her teeth. It’s on the edge.

    Judgmentalism here!

    The tsk-tsking aside, the collapse of standards coincides with–or maybe more precisely, precedes–total civilizational collapse.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Mr. Rational
    , @Mark G.
  66. Wilkey says:

    I wouldn’t worry too much about losing Notre Dame Cathedral. The Muslims won’t burn it down or blow it up. It’s too beautiful. They’ll want it for their main mosque when they become the majority in France.

  67. songbird says:
    @res

    Florida has powerful, regular downpours during the rainy season – you wouldn’t want to be without a roof. It has hurricanes too.

  68. @EastKekistani

    “Negroids” have been here for centuries. They aren’t responsible for everything, especially not in a white/Asian hub like San Francisco.

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
  69. @Twinkie

    I haven’t, but I’ll put it in queue on your suggestion.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Nasa
  70. Twinkie says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    I have a feeling you will enjoy it and give you much to ponder.

    Here is a taste: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1991-06-01/transformation-war

    This distinguished Israeli military historian’s subtitle-“the most radical reinterpretation of armed conflict since Clausewitz”- may overstate, but not by much. He can be faulted for leaving plenty of loose ends and running well ahead of the evidence but certainly not for failing to provoke: future war will not be between nation-states but between “groups whom we today call terrorists, guerrillas, bandits and robbers, but who will undoubtedly hit on more formal titles to describe themselves.” An uncomfortably multiracial America will be an earlier victim of these wars than the more homogenous Japan or Europe. If he never says what these messy wars will be “for,” that is because the whole idea of rational purpose, like most of traditional strategy, “will be largely inapplicable.”

    This review is from 1991, in the immediate aftermath of the overwhelming victory in Desert Storm when everyone was drunk on the power of America’s conventional military forces. Largely ignored at the time, his work was eventually recognized as prescient, especially after 9/11.

  71. RSDB says:
    @Talha

    Something will have to be done, yes.

    It’s interesting, perhaps significant, and perhaps fortunate that Cdl. Ranjith, the Archbishop of Colombo, is one of the few Catholic prelates who has not come out against capital punishment.

    Also, while murderers like this in Sri Lanka have sometimes in the past been sheltered from punishment* by the political situation, that’s not likely to apply this time.

    Thanks for your prayers; they are much appreciated, and will be returned upon you, I doubt not, with interest, by those in Heaven who died in witness of Christ’s victory over death, which is all that the terrorists managed to accomplish in this case.

    Christus vincit!–Christus regnat!–Christus imperat!

    *Earthly punishment, that is. (Or, I should, say, human punishment; I remember my mother interviewed a number of people involved in the 1983 riots, and it’s remarkable how heavy the hand of fate lay on some of the main perpetrators. I regard this as a kind of mercy, sparing worse in another world.)

    • Replies: @Talha
  72. Nasa says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    What if you have the military, with the popular support roughly 40 percent of the population, albeiy its base of support comes from the urban areas, but then if you look at a map of the industrial areas they are also located close to large urban areas, or largish ones.

  73. tamako says:

    I know that it’s probably there because it’s a funny poo joke, but Pokey/Porky actually does reprise a rather familiar role in Mother 3, which Nintendo conveniently never released outside Japan.
    Familiar to us in the sense that his plot to take over involved a lot of the same tools that the elites nowadays use to keep populations from rebelling.

    I recommend giving the fan translation a try, since it does everything EarthBound does but better, and it has a proper emotional pay-off.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  74. @iffen

    Maybe 300 years ago. If you want to defend yourself against the military, you will need to get a woke Supreme Court that will allow possession of grenade launchers, tanks, planes, etc.

    The traditional means of upsetting the status quo is becoming part of the security services, and requisitioning its supplies and manpower in order to bend the ancien regime to your will. Whether rich financiers, ambitious revolutionaries or ordinary discontents, all have ransacked the security services for manpower or material resources in order to further their cause. In the 20th century alone, the Bolsheviks, anti-monarchist Chinese revolutionaries and German fascists, either independently or as small groups of ambitious men from the same village or town, steadily infiltrated the security services and waited for their moment.

    George Washington and a good number of Revolutionary War leaders cut their teeth fighting the French and Indian Wars. Without their knowledge of military strategy, tactics, logistics, as well as the talents of key civilian leaders who understood fund raising, war taxation and other matters related to securing resources for the revolution, the Crown might well have prevailed.

    My impression is that when the Soviet Union fell into disarray, its security services readily devolved into muscle-bound ethnic militias. That seems to be how so many senior Soviet figures from different ethnic minorities managed to secure the independence of their traditional homelands, ranging from the Caucasus to Central Asia. I was expecting Ruslan Khasbulatov to get Chechnya, but it was not to be.

    • Replies: @iffen
  75. @Talha

    as the Qur’an states:
    “…Turn unto God for aid, and have patience in adversity. Verily, all the earth belongs to God: He gives it as an inheritance to such as He wills of His servants; and the future belongs to the God-conscious.”

    What are you babbling about, woman?

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Talha
  76. @advancedatheist

    Yuck! The modern porn industry race to the bottom (bum intended) presents an unrealistically feces-free presentation of such activities, but in real life it’s doubtlessly turd-world levels of sanitation.

  77. iffen says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    “feral blacks” causes schoolmarm to grit her teeth. It’s on the edge.

    And parasitic Jews doesn’t?

    Mud people doesn’t?

    I knew that you wouldn’t be able to handle the job of censor. 🙂

    You could let me have a try at the job. I don’t think that I would have to have a guillotine. Yet.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  78. iffen says:
    @HammerJack

    What are you babbling about, woman?

    God acts arbitrarily. If you are conscious of this fact, you stand a better chance of having a successful and fulfulled life.

  79. Talha says:
    @HammerJack

    1) Not a woman:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talhah

    2) There are consequences for putting the Divine in the “friend zone”…perhaps this will clarify:
    “O mankind – It is you that have need of Allah; but Allah is Free of all wants, worthy of all praise. If He wills He can dispense with you and bring about a new creation. And this is not difficult for Allah.” (35:15-17)

    “…and Allah is Free of need, while you are the destitute. And if you turn away, He will replace you with another people; and they will not be the likes of you.” (47:38)

    His world, we only live in it…hope that clarifies.

    Peace.

  80. Talha says:
    @RSDB

    it’s remarkable how heavy the hand of fate lay on some of the main perpetrators. I regard this as a kind of mercy, sparing worse in another world.

    Excellent point. I agree, if these vile people have escaped punishment in this world, they cannot escape judgement in the next.

    Peace.

  81. iffen says:
    @Johann Ricke

    The traditional means of upsetting the status quo is becoming part of the security services

    I think that this is correct. But there are no such groups around or on the horizon except in the fantasy world of the Aryan right. For every successful Bolshevik revolution there have been 10 thousand spasmodic riots and outbursts of random violence, large and small.

    My point was that the contention that the 2nd amendment offers some sort of protection against tyranny is myopic. I have said that when the left moves to take personal weapons that there would be bloodshed. After NZ, I have changed my mind. There will be some sporadic violent resistance, but that is all.

    • Replies: @notanon
  82. @Audacious Epigone

    “feral blacks” causes schoolmarm to grit her teeth. It’s on the edge.

    And it also encapsulates a very important concept that the PTB are desperately trying to suppress.

    We NEED that concept out there.  It’s a matter of survival.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  83. @Talha

    Now there’s a cartoon I’d not thought of for a long time. My little millennials loved it as kids. Marzipan: “And lots of tofu – everyone loves tofu!”

    • Replies: @Talha
  84. Talha says:
    @Jack Highlands

    Yeah – me and my little guys loved watching Homestar – we still have plenty of inside jokes and nicknames based on that crew. Fun times…

    Peace.

  85. Mark G. says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    One thing I’ve often wondered about is why there are numerous words or phrases like “white trash”, “redneck”, “cracker” etc. to describe lower class whites who behave badly but not any equivalent words or phrases involving lower class blacks who behave badly. There are plenty of negative words about blacks in general but none that differentiate between middle class blacks and badly behaved ghetto blacks. There are differences in the behavior of various blacks but only having general negative terms for blacks makes it seem that all blacks are the same when they aren’t. Maybe there are such words and I just haven’t heard them.

  86. Talha says:
    @Endgame Napoleon

    they are going to find out that what sets France apart as a tourist destination and as a First World nation is the beautiful architecture and the other art.

    Yup.

    This particular nation, more than others, will find out that art is the most important part of its heritage, national and economic strength.

    Possibly, when it comes to Europe. Now, when I was in Cairo, there were many Europeans around – most were interested in either the stuff that the ancients built or the later Romans or even the mosques and forts that were still around since the times of the Crusades and Ayyubids.

    I can’t think of anyone interested in what modern Egypt was producing.

    Peace.

  87. notanon says:
    @iffen

    if the USA was homogenous the #2A would (rightly) include LAWs.

  88. Talha says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    But not all – many got taken over by black Protestants and, now, Muslims.

    Or they were sold and turned into everything from apartments to cheese shops to bars and nightclubs:
    https://photos.orlandoweekly.com/18-heavenly-pics-of-churches-converted-into-bars/

    you will find plenty of former Catholic parishes turned into Muslim mosques in cities such as Cleveland, Philadelphia, and Detroit.

    And the Chicago area. I know of a few mosques that were former churches. In fact, one that I used to attend is across the street from another church that is used by multiple congregations (sects) pooling their resources together.

    To be honest, both the Catholic church and other denominations are actually working with Muslims on this. Many of them do not want a former house of worship being turned into a nightclub or used for nonsense. They would rather sell to a group that would use it for worship – and basically many Christians see us as some heretical offshoot of Christianity anyway (like the first Christians did) or in the Abrahamic tradition who at least respect and venerate the Son of Mary and his mother (pbut) – there are many mosques in the US named either after him or his mother.

    That’s the U.S. government for you

    “Your taxes at work.”

    if these “refugees” were Sunni, Shiite

    Since it is IRaq and Syria where some of the latest ones are coming from, they are both coming in. In one of the local Qur’an memorization classes my kids go to, the main teacher is a Syrian (Sunni) arrival and some of the kids are from Syria (Shiah).

    I do not know enough about Muslim worship customs to know how they are affected by using buildings specifically designed for a different faith.

    A mosque is a simple affair. We basically strip out the chairs and pews, take down any statues or crosses or human/animal imagery, take out any altars and lay down a carpet. If the church is facing qiblah (direction of Makkah) even better, and if it isn’t, then you just adjust the carpet lines accordingly. And that’s it.

    Far easier working with a church than one of these, let me tell ya:

    And once a mosque is truly designated as a mosque, it becomes a waqf (a trust) which belongs to Allah. He owns that land from both a spiritual and legal perspective. The vast majority of scholars and schools hold that it cannot be sold or turned into anything else until the world ends.

    When I was in Cairo, I remember constant work being done on the various old mosques, plenty older than Notre Dame. They can be dangerous, old tiles can fall off and kill/injure someone. I remember one particular old mosque had been taken over and was being maintained by some group from India (I think they were Bohras, but not sure). I’m figuring if a hand-to-mouth country like Egypt can figure out and have the will to maintain their historic mosques, the French should be able to with their churches.

    Peace.

  89. songbird says:
    @Mark G.

    I’ve heard the N-word used as a mechanism of differentiation. Unfortunately, only blacks can use it publicly.

    I think one of the biggest losses with diversity is that you lose much of the ability to encourage people to a higher class of behavior. I have heard white women in urban environments scold white teenage boys who were strangers to them to behave better. I have never seen them scold black or Hispanic teenage boys. This is a particular problem with blacks, since few have fathers.

    But it is not only the inability to cross the outgroup line – it also causes problems in the ingroup, at least among whites. For example, there’s really this incredible tendency to ostracism when one uses the N-word. I find it really amazing because it happens whatever the circumstances, even when it is impersonal. It is very much like a taboo.

    Let’s say, you dislike the word – think it should not be used – unless you are a deranged psychopath, you wouldn’t pursue the course of ostracism. If you were rational, and socially minded, you would try to fit it into a more general framework, like “I believe a gentleman shouldn’t swear, or name-call.” But this doesn’t happen in our society because often there is no framework for them to put it into – they try to unperson you, like they did to Watson. The social damage this does, the distrust it causes, discourages the unity that is needed for positive examples.

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
  90. @Mark G.

    There are differences in the behavior of various blacks but only having general negative terms for blacks makes it seem that all blacks are the same when they aren’t.

    There are exceptions but almost all of them are similar to each other anyway, hence there is no need for such terms.

  91. @songbird

    I think one of the biggest losses with diversity is that you lose much of the ability to encourage people to a higher class of behavior.

    Sure. However it is more about certain tribes and less about tribe mixing. One of the most significant traits of certain tribes is that they just consistently behave poorly even when they have fairly high class and are fairly rich. This is why upper class areas in Sub-Saharan Africa need a lot of security guards.

  92. Wachout says:

    Someone needs to get a suppressor and walk the streets of San Fran every night. A hollow point behind the ear does wonders for human trash

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  93. @tamako

    I’ve heard good things. At some point I will.

  94. @iffen

    I’ve tried to do a thorough job culling “mud”. Yes, you’re correct re: “parasitic”.

  95. @Wachout

    No advocating illegal violence here. Thanks in advance.

  96. @Mr. Rational

    It’s really hyperbolic. My predominant concern is to clear out the most ghettoizing language, the sort of stuff that will keep people from linking here.

  97. c matt says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    In the suburban South, that does not seem to be an issue. Perhaps Church attendance patterns have just followed along with the white flight patterns.

  98. @Mark G.

    Despite all the propaganda in our country about the horrors of slavery, for some reason you don’t seem to get into trouble if you call dysfunctional black people “slaves.” At least I haven’t heard of anyone who denounces the use of the term as “hate speech.”

  99. Todd says: • Website
    @Talha

    Talha, Islam cannot produce great civiizations, only destroy them. Your “Allah” is not at all the same as the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ and the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. Islam’s time is short, and the mass turning of Muslims to Christ will be led by the headlong rush to Christ of Islam’s long-suffering females.

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
    , @Talha
  100. @Audacious Epigone

    Sure.

    This is why I suspect that the main cause is the housing situation. I don’t deny that it is caused by both the Silicon Valley and Chinese investors. Both are not inherently illegitimate but maybe there should be a separate area (such as Hawaii or Puerto Rico) for them.

    P.S. As for why are there suddenly a lot of investors from China it isn’t because China wants to annex the West Coast. On the other hand this is caused by people fleeing from Xi’s regime. Xi’s regime does not respect property rights. Hence Chinese people including both corrupt officials and legitimate middle class and upper middle class people want to get the money out of China ASAP.

  101. @Todd

    Islam (or in fact any high social unity movement) does not need to produce a great civilization to rule over an area. Instead it just needs to be able to conquer a people incapable of self-defense.

    The current ecological niche of Islam is clearly very close to the ecological niche of steppe pastoralists in the past.

    and the mass turning of Muslims to Christ will be led by the headlong rush to Christ of Islam’s long-suffering females.

    This is possible. At the same time Muslims are just much more fertile and are very good at norm enforcing which obviously includes execution of male apostates who include converts to Christianity and forced reconversion of female apostates.

    It is really a matter of which force is more significant. I can not predict the outcome. Since technologies are increasingly sophisticated it can be anything from human extinction to an ethnoglobe and a One World Government ruled by a particular tech boss such as Elon Musk as the dictator.

  102. 216 says:
    @Mr. Rational

    Anti-Defamation League of the B’Nai B’Brith

    I use ADLbb to tweak them, sort of like using BATFE instead of their preferred three-letter acronym of ATF.

  103. Talha says:
    @Todd

    Islam cannot produce great civiizations

    I see no need to challenge opinions with mine.

    Your “Allah” is not at all…the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

    OK – but He said He is – so why should we take your opinion over His? Why should we or anybody else simply accept the contention that the Divine only communicated with and made revelations to Bani Israel and not other people? Because Bani Israel says so? Because they claim to have a special book that only they have that says so? The Qur’an claims it is a revelation in the line of Bani Ismael and it furthermore claims that the Divine sent emissaries to many nations other than Bani Israel…but that would break their convenient claim of monopoly on prophethood and Divine revelation, wouldn’t it?

    Islam’s time is short

    OK, but we had a pretty good run though, 15 centuries isn’t that bad. Plus, others seem to think otherwise:
    “Islam has survived for nearly 1,600 years; it is the predominant faith in 57 countries; it is indestructible.”
    https://buchanan.org/blog/pjb-coming-clash-of-civilizations-400

    the mass turning of Muslims to Christ

    We love the Son of Mary (pbuh), one of the most blessed men to ever walk this earth, so we were never turned away from him in the first place. As far as mass turning, I’ll believe it when I see it. Most of our converts come from Christianity:Most of our apostates go atheist (like most of yours):https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/26/the-share-of-americans-who-leave-islam-is-offset-by-those-who-become-muslim/

    But it is always good to retain hope.

    Islam’s long-suffering females.

    Problem here is most of people converting into Islam are actually female (like my wife and her sister), so I don’t think you guys are doing a great job convincing women that Islam oppresses them:

    Peace.

  104. The cause of SF’s poo flu is pretty easy to discern, even if the cause of the cause defies simple explanation: not only does SF have many “outreach” programs for the homeless, the local authorities have been quite vehement in preventing anyone from attempting to discourage the homeless from setting up camp wherever they wish.

    There was a church that had some automatic sprinklers that “cleaned their steps” and as totally unintended by-product, helped keep the homeless from sleeping outside their doors. From the response they received, you would have thought they were hacking up the homeless with hatchets and feeding them to the seagulls. The water was turned off, of course. This is but a single anecdote on the situation.

  105. @c matt

    Maybe, but, frankly, who cares? I have experience with suburban Protestantism. It’s mostly a bunch of Christian Zionist crap and a waste of time, to be quite blunt about it.

  106. Dr. Doom says:
    @Chewie111

    Now you see why shithole went viral and the left went bonkers!

    It is so appropriate!

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