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I had a chuckle when I saw a notification that the latest episode of The Tom Woods Show successfully downloaded this morning. A title a bit too fitting for its spot in the show’s enormous audio library, I’d say:

The episode’s feature is actually an interview from 2014. The frustration of the libertarian right–for which Tom Woods is one of the most eloquent and accessible spokesmen–at that time is impossible to miss. That libertarianism became a pipeline to the alt right seems bemusing now, but as the episode illustrates, it was easier to understand five years ago that it does today.

To be crystal clear, I am not implying this was at all intentional on Woods’ part. There’s a good chance he doesn’t even know what the nefarious number string refers to.

++Addition++Ha, maybe not:

It’s a sad commentary on The Current Year that as good a guy as Woods feels compelled to dance around an innocuous sequential number but maybe an episode about fractional reserve banking or something would’ve been better if it really was a deciding factor. The Loser Brigade is sure to claim he doth protest too much!

 
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  1. OK, you got me. I don’t know anything about Tom Woods, and I don’t know the significance of 1488. It’s not a prime number, being even. It’s a rational, whole number. OK, that’s all I got – John Derbyshire?

    It was the year Bartholomeus Diaz discovered Mosselbaai, but, then, the only Bartholomews I know are named Simpson and Cubbins, and obviously Mosselbaai wasn’t that important of a discovery, as I don’t know where TF in the world it is.

    (I did try to click on “Read More”, but I see that’s just part of your graphic.)

    Sincerely,

    Stumped in San Simeon

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Meneldil
    , @Anne Lid
  2. SFG says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    14 words = “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children,” a white nationalist motto. (Relatively inoffensive, but it is used that way.)

    88= “Heil Hitler.”

    Seriously, the guy’s a libertarian. They’re about 150 degrees on the political compass away from fascists, why would they like them?

  3. Meneldil says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    14 stands for “the Fourteen Words” (“We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children,”) and 88 for HH, “Heil Hitler” , it’s a code that was/is used by white nationalists but has now become more of a meme.

  4. iffen says:

    innocuous sequential number

    But it’s not.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  5. @iffen

    What is he (or any other podcaster/vlogger) supposed to do when he gets to episode/video 1,487? Number the subsequent one 1,489?

    They’ve taken 7, 13, 69, and now 1,488? How are quants supposed to function under such restrictions? Oh, those restrictions aren’t anything like the literary restrictions politically correctness imposes? I see…

  6. @SFG

    Thanks for the explanation. This is not directed at you, of course, SFG, but, man, if that is all the numerology people can come up with, then I can make any number mean anything I want.

    Hell, give me a 4 digit number. I’ll come up with something.

    As for the 88 part, that means goodbye for Chinamen when speaking to Westerners, but ONLY when written, not spoken. See, the number “8” is pronounced “bah”, though you have to do the tone right. Therefore, “88” is bah, bah, or “bye bye”. It took me longer than it should have to get that!

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @The Alarmist
  7. @Audacious Epigone

    Hey, Peak Stupidity will have post # 1488 up sometime in Spring ’20 at my normal rate. I wonder what I’ll write about. $1,000 says I’ll have forgotten this whole conversation by then unless reminded.

    I will say, A.E., that the whole “13” thing has really been going away for the last coupla’ decades. They’ve got row 13 on airplances, gate A-13’s and so forth now. Now, if flight #1313 ends up in the ocean due to bad software on a new Scarebus, then, maybe it’ll come back into vogue (not the bikini magazine, small-v vogue).

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  8. Arizona had a Route 666. The choice was actually intentional, “the devil’s highway. Sadly they renumbered it. 🙁

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  9. @iffen

    Yikes, that’s a glaring omission. An intentional one, of course, because I don’t want to go to Hell. Enjoy yourself down there!

  10. @Fidelios Automata

    Ha, looks like it’s route 491 now.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  11. 216 says: • Website

    O/T

    Generally awful results for us in this poll

    https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3639

    Q24

    Alt-Right Hispanics

    Also a point for Rosie

    The prejudice questions in general are awful for us. The public is moving in the direction of “authoritarian civility”, and I can’t see how this is anything but our fault. (Yes, we have agency, and should expect the media to lie)

    Q35

    Gun banning boomers

    Point against Rosie

    Q36

    The real kicker, this is the Civil War question

    “Mandatory buyback” is the product of focus groups. They will do anything to avoid the word “confiscation”.

    Ideally we need to forge a countersectional link between a gun confiscation and the South Africa farm expropriation.

    Q43

    Trump needs to self-deplatform

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  12. SFG says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Trust me, I’ve heard worse. 😉 I know how annoying it is when people go on about inside jokes and the like on websites, and asking just means you are a ‘stupid newbie who doesn’t deserve to know anyway’. Well, yeah, guys, great way to sway people to your side.

    Seriously…as far as I can tell it has been a real motto. It’s used more by hardcore Nazi-types than alt-right or alt-lite people, though, as the 88 stands for ‘Heil Hitler’.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  13. Excuse the cliche’

    but some people have far too much time on their hands.

    • Replies: @216
  14. “Tell that to Jared Holt.”

    I am not sure what this means. My comment is a quip about anyone working out numerical anagrams or using the same to decipher meaning.

    I am delighted to say, I had to look up who Jared Holt is. But whether said comment applies to him is dependent on – well the numerical word ‘decipherers’. Laugh.

    I have no doubt that i missing important data via the secret decoder rings. Code breaking is big business.

  15. “Tell that to Jared Holt.”

    More tongue and cheek . . . than serious contend.

  16. Pericles says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    7 * 70 + 1, cough cough for those of a biblical bent.

    • Replies: @iffen
  17. @Audacious Epigone

    My favourite is 19 … skip to 53:25 in this for the setup and punch-line.

    You’ll have to forgive Brother Louis for getting his slave history a bit wrong, but he didn’t have the benefit of The NY Times 1619 project back in the dark days of the 1990s.

  18. @SFG

    Hmmm .. I always associated 88 with the number of keys on a piano. In fact, there are 36 black keys and 52 white keys, so the black keys seem to be disproportionately represented. What would Hitler make of this?

  19. @Achmed E. Newman

    FWIW, 88 is Ham-Radio speak for Hugs and/or Kisses, usually to the XYL of the operator to whom one was speaking. Has been used far longer than the current misuse.

    The Hitlerian angle is indeed a stretch, though there was this scary thing which fired 88mm projectiles. Coincidence? It was designed for Anti-aircraft, but the Germans learned early on that it was a very effective tank killer.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  20. Tom Woods is an entertaining writer when he writes. He’s gone to podcasts for most of his work, but here’s a little free ebook from him on AOC:
    http://www.aociswrong.com/

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  21. dc.sunsets [AKA "Astonished"] says:

    Libertarianism is a hoot (and I should know, I was a card-carrying member of the LP once.)

    I used to notice that the LP was doomed to small numbers because it was a way-station between the RNC and libertarian anarchism, where only people too stupid to see the oxymoron of an “anti-state” political party remained with it.

    In recent years I realized (for myself) that only people too blind to see human nature remained libertarian anarchists. I now would trade “market-based” order (libertarian anarchism), constitutional republics and democracy for a benign hereditary-monarchy any day of the week.

    People like Woods (and Lew Rockwell) are like the rest of us, generally trapped in the ideas on which we base our entire worldview. As Butler Shaffer often quoted, “The map is not the territory.” The mental map by which people navigate their lives is a ridiculously over-simplified version of infinite reality, and people’s actions diverge from sanity (or clear-mindedness) the more their map differs from the reality it purportedly represents.

    The libertarian map is just as estranged from the laws of human nature as is that of communists.

    • Replies: @76239
  22. It’s a sad commentary on The Current Year that as good a guy as Woods feels compelled to dance around an innocuous sequential number but maybe an episode about fractional reserve banking or something would’ve been better if it really was a deciding factor.

    There ain’t no damn thing as so-called “fractional reserve banking” in the USA anymore.

    I do get what you mean by using the term “fractional reserve banking” though. It’s just that the American Empire is an electronic empire and fractions in electronics might not do so well. Even Dennis Hopper was ranting about not being able to do some damn thing on a fraction or something or other in Apocalypse Now or some other movie.

    Now it’s electronic numbers and decimals and the like. Fractions are for algebra or some other thing.

    Once again, I’ll say that that guy of recent German American ancestry named Ron Paul has been the most radical candidate to do well in recent American history. Don’t let this guy’s “aw shucks I’m just a country doctor” routine fool you one bit. Ron Paul was going after the globalizer central banker shysters and that is where guy’s with big balls and big hearts and big guts go to stir up some politics! I don’t like Ron Paul’s push for more mass legal immigration, but on monetary policy Ron Paul is right on the money.

    Monetary policy is the big dog in the front yard of global politics and very evil globalizer scoundrels will do everything they can to maintain control over monetary policy. That goes for the Chinese Communist Party and the JEW/WASP ruling class in the American Empire and the Euro-filth plutocrats who control the European Central Bank. Nation state sovereignty is under attack by the mere existence of the ECB and World Bank and the IMF and the like. All globalizer central banks must be destroyed or put to use to benefit all citizens of individual nations, not just the money-grubbing scum who bang their damn rice bowl the closest to the electronic money conjuring apparatus of the globalizer central banks.

    For instance, the Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP) will give each American citizen with all blood ancestry born before 1924 in the USA or colonial America ten thousand dollars a month. The PCLP will get the Federal Reserve Bank to conjure up dollars out of thin air to benefit all Americans who have a certain duration of blood ancestry in the USA or colonial America.

    Trump the Finance and Insurance and Real Estate guy is now calling for the federal funds rate to go to zero again or below zero to negative interest rates.

    Trump is basically calling for a currency devaluation move that will lead to a currency war. I’m all for it.

    Trump’s call for negative federal funds rate will kill globalization and financialization deader than a dodo!

    ACCELERATIONISM FROM TRUMPY FROM QUEENS COUNTY!

    Smash the shit out of the global financial order Trumpy!

  23. Modest and mildly moderate thoughts and proposals about Libertarians and Libertarianism:

    Libertarianism Is An Evil Of An Almost Incomprehensible Magnitude

    Libertarian Louts Get On My Nerves, Dammit!

    Libertarianism Must Be Extinguished As An Ideology Immediately!

    All Libertarians Must be Sent Into Forcible Exile In Sub-Saharan Africa Now!

    Go Ahead And Try To Wave Your Fist In Front Of My Nose, You Insolent Libertarian Twat!

    I Really Don’t Like John Stossel or Ayn Rand!

    Ayn Rand And John Stossel Are Anti-White And Anti-Christian — That Is There Animating Motivation. The Enemy To Karl Marx And George Soros And Ayn Rand And John Stossel Is European Christendom.

    Tweets from 2014:

  24. @SFG

    The 88 is not “Heil Hitler”. That’s some dumb, low grade Urban Dictionary stuff.

    It’s the 88 precepts:

    https://archive.org/stream/88Precepts_937/88Precepts_djvu.txt

    • Agree: Curmudgeon
    • Replies: @iffen
  25. L Woods says:

    “Loser” is a stupid pejorative that says more about its user than its target.

    • Replies: @Matra
    , @Audacious Epigone
  26. I’ve read that the 88 stands for the 88 words from Mein Kampf that have a similar message as the 14 words. You can read it here: https://tteclod.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/88-words/

  27. @SFG

    They’re about 150 degrees on the political compass away from fascists, why would they like them?

    Well, for starters, fascists don’t like private central banks, and actually work towards improving the quality of life for all, not just paying lip service to it.

  28. @The Alarmist

    Thanks, Alarmist. BOTH of those items associated with “88”are things I DID know about. Yeah, that Ham radio knowledge preceded my dealing with the Chinese goodbye.

  29. As much as 88 is lucky for the Chinese, as an American you’re luckier to get a 99:

    • Agree: The Alarmist
  30. @Charles Pewitt

    I’d love to bring up my 5 year-old tweets, Mr. Pewitt, but I’ve never written one and am proud of it!

    Let me summarize a little from those 2 comments. You like Ron Paul, excepting his aggravating insistence that immigration won’t bring in millions who couldn’t give a rat’s hootie about Libertarian principles (or at least, that’s MY take) Great.

    Dr. Paul is a Libertarian, and he’d be the first to tell you.

    You think Libertarianism is an evil of an almost incomprehensible magnitude, oh !!

    My brain is spinning.

    I can’t keep writing one-sentence paragraphs!

    It may be easy for you, I dunno.

    I’m not a fan of Ayn Rand’s writing.

    The only reason I finished The Fountainhead is that I was unemployed at the time.

    The Fountainhead sucked! I don’t know about Atlas Shrugged – may read it.

    John Stossel kicks ass in showing how fucked-up the US Gov’t and ANY big government is.

    This is really not working out without the paragraphs. Maybe I should learn to tweet.

  31. @Achmed E. Newman

    If you didn’t like The Fountainhead, you will really hate Atlas Shrugged even if it does answer the question “Who is John Galt?”

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  32. Matra says:
    @L Woods

    It’s also a distinctly American pejorative that was virtually unknown outside the US – or at least the Anglo world – until the last decade or two.

  33. @Achmed E. Newman

    When you get to #1488, just replace one of the 8s with a symbol, like people do with words like fu€k, etc.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  34. I have always found it strange that libertarians embrace The Foutainhead.

    At its core is the simple claim that a man’s (person’s) creation is their and nothing can be done to it or with it such as he prescribes with their consent. And that to any change or ‘unagreed’ use is an infringment such as to render said creation worthy of destruction if the creator so decides.

    Imagine what that would do to film, writing, architecture, etc. That is a very powerful rejection of creative destruction and the copywrite and other intellectual property infringement based on the argument that it has more effeciant uses and that alone constitiutes a right of infringement —

    for the called and over used

    “greater good”.

  35. That libertarianism became a pipeline to the alt right seems bemusing now, but as the episode illustrates, it was easier to understand five years ago that it does today.

    Much or most of libertarianism is simply a way to attack European Christendom or spiritual and ancestral bonds that must be maintained to ensure civilizational survival.

    The Alt-Right — named after Prussian Sports Illustrated swimsuit model Carol Alt — is the natural home for White Christians initially attracted to the seemingly commonsensical structural parts of libertarianism. But once people listen to this nonsense crud from libertarians for a bit you realize that there is no wonder or tragic sense or heroical spirit or anything else from libertarianism besides a cover for the greed of the money-grubbers in the Koch Boys Mob.

    Libertarianism was a nasty ideological scam from the get-go designed to keep plutocrat treasonites such as the Koch boys in power.

    Libertarianism, to be kind, is about structural forms. But what the libertarian boobs won’t admit is that all the structural forms they want everybody to adhere to emanate from European Christendom and the European Christian people. You could throw in the pre-Christian European Pagans too.

    All of this disgusting slop about this or that from the libertarians is hogwash.

    Why don’t the libertarians go to Detroit to enjoy their “Free State” politics? The answer is that the libertarians are hypocrites who run like cowards away from any honest discussion of race and ethnicity and ancestry.

    Attention all you Libertarian Party louts in Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and New Hampshire:

    Remember to vote straight down the line LIBERTARIAN PARTY in the 2020 elections!

    My calculation is that between 3 and 8 percent of White Christians in Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida and New Hampshire will refuse to vote for Donald “In The Largest Numbers Ever” Trump and the mass legal immigration extremists in the Republican Party. If you add all the Libertarian Party voters to the patriotic White Christians who patriotically refuse to vote for Trump and the Republican Party treasonites, that will be enough to begin the necessary demolition of the nation-wrecking Republican Party.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  36. @Mr. Rational

    I dunno, but he has a boulevard in Omaha, NE named after him.

  37. iffen says:
    @Cloudbuster

    The 88 [is] “Heil Hitler”. That’s some dumb, low grade Urban Dictionary neo-Nazi stuff.

    No charge.

  38. Matra says:

    I was once made a small donation to an online political personality who could be described as Dissident Right but who made it crystal clear that he despised the neo-Nazi hangers-on. Anyway, since my account with the (American) payment processor was still linked to a Canadian bank account I made a $20 Canadian donation to him. But when I got the receipt it came back in American dollars as a $14.88 donation to the man in question. Wonder what he thought.

  39. @Achmed E. Newman

    Mr. Newman,

    Thank you for your kind words.

    Since I am a kind man of sweet disposition, I will treat you to another Tweet about libertarians that is pleasant and thankful!

    My natural and ancestral response to central banking was shaped by early readings of how Andrew Jackson fought the central banks and won. But I will say that Ron Paul and some libertarians have further sharpened my conviction that central banks must benefit all citizens, or they must be destroyed.

    We no longer have capitalism. The debt-based fiat currency system killed capitalism. We have central banker shysterism. Ron Paul has warned us that central banker shysterism is running amok something fierce.

    Tweet from 2015:

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  40. @Charles Pewitt

    We no longer have capitalism.

    Indeed ….

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  41. Opinions You’re Not Allowed to Hold

    Incidentally, I’ve just read this journal by a prominent Russian historian:

    While constantly hearing about Western follies on the basis of “political correctness”, but without personally encountering them directly, I still quietly hoped they were greatly exaggerated. But yesterday, when I saw a substantial book that had just been published, From Ancestral Society to Early Civilizations: Ancient Egypt and West Africa, I asked one of the authors if it would be translated. To which he, knowing perfectly well the situation in this area and the people (Ancient World scholars are a rather limited little world), replied it would never be, because if in Europe it would have about 10-15% chance of being published, in the USA – no way.

    It turns out a certain Senegalese, one of the pillars of “Negritude,” came up with the theory that all European civilization comes from ancient Egyptian, and the latter from West Africa (almost from the village where this thinker is from). Although there is no debate with him in the book, all its content, of course, leaves no place for the idea of ​​the origin of European civilization from an African village. Meanwhile, what a black man said cannot be refuted or publicly questioned nowadays (they seem to occupy about the same place in today’s Western science as the pets of Red Professorate Institute in the 1920s Soviet science). Although a few years ago this was not quite true yet.

    It seems that on problems for which there is a voiced black opinion, conferences can only be held in the Russian Federation. I thought that, perhaps, even the atmosphere of our filthy “sub-Sovok” (if one doesn’t depend on government structures) allows speaking out with impunity for one’s social standing on a slightly larger range of issues: there is at least no terror of social “tolerance” here.
    https://salery.livejournal.com/169707.html

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  42. @The Alarmist

    The database don’t take too kindly to that sort of $h!+.

    • LOL: The Alarmist
  43. @Mr. Rational

    Shoot, I don’t even remember who shot J.R., but, still don’t tell me, just in case I do end up reading it. Thank you for the de-recommendation, Mr. Rational – I’ll likely take your word on this.

    • Replies: @iffen
  44. @Matra

    Wonder what he thought.

    That you were a Canadian cheap-ass instead of an American cheap-ass?

    ;-} (That Monty Python got me in this mood.)

  45. 76239 says:
    @dc.sunsets

    “The mental map by which people navigate their lives is a ridiculously over-simplified version of infinite reality.”

    That is an insightful self description of yourself. Monarchy and a market place order are not mutually exclusive. Its too bad your “over simplified mental map” does not acknowledge this.

  46. iffen says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t even remember who shot J.R., but, still don’t tell me, just in case I do end up reading it

    Don’t you believe what you read about who shot J. R., that was a class A conspiracy and coverup that would put these current petty UR conspiracies in the shade.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  47. @iffen

    Haha, Iffen, that’ll be next on American Pravda: It was Sue Ellen … no, no, Sue Ellen Mischky, Oh-Henry candy bar heiress.

    (BTW, just kidding Ron Unz. I appreciate your efforts and enthusiasm on the American Pravda series and agree with about 1/2 of them in general.)

  48. It would be a good idea for people on our general side to come up with some actual dog whistles that we could use IRL to facilitate networking. Hard to do when you have to first announce the signals online, but, hopefully we can come up with something.

    • Replies: @216
  49. @216

    Vindication of my repeated point that younger people are the least gun-grabby in the country.

  50. @L Woods

    What’d your uncle ever to do you?

  51. @iffen

    I thought GOATs were the greatest of all time. Oh dear indeed.

  52. 216 says: • Website
    @Not My Economy

    Recurring O/T

    https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801939?

    http://www.unz.com/anepigone/proscription-lists/?highlight=facebook#comment-3378108

    Last month I wrote about the Facebook censorship policies, which are much more detailed than the Google policies.

    Here are examples of hate speech not allowed on YouTube.
    “I’m glad this [violent event] happened. They got what they deserved [referring to persons with the attributes noted above].”
    “[Person with attributes noted above] are dogs” or “[person with attributes noted above] are like animals.”

    “Get out there and punch a [person with attributes noted above].”
    “Everyone in [groups with attributes noted above] are all criminals and thugs.”
    “[Person with attributes noted above] is scum of the earth.”
    “[People with attributes noted above] are a disease.”
    “[People with attributes noted above] are less intelligent than us because their brains are smaller.”
    “Our existence is threatened by [group with any of the attributes noted above], so we should drive them out at every chance we get.”
    “[Group with any of the attributes noted above] has an agenda to run the world and get rid of us.”
    “[Attribute noted above] is just a form of mental illness that needs to be cured.”
    “[Person with any of the attributes noted above] shouldn’t be educated in schools because they shouldn’t be educated at all.”
    “All of the so-called victims of this violent event are actors. No one was hurt, and this is just a false flag.”

    This one is the kicker though, if they enforce it as much as they theoretically could: Dissident politics is banned. They also ban “immigration status” without the add-on that Facebook has where “immigration policy” can still be criticized. So using “illegal alien” can only be used in a legalistic context.

    Conspiracy theories ascribing evil, corrupt, or malicious intent to individuals or groups based on any of the attributes noted above.

    From what I infer, Google moderation is less developed than Facebook, and is more frequently outsourced to “Trusted Flaggers” and non-US censors.

    The easiest way around these policies is to attack individuals, particularly politicians, and scrupulously avoiding anything that even hints at violence. Attacking groups is a surefire way to lose.

    And of course our friends don’t include “Political Ideology” as a protected class.

    Conservatives are the true model minority you are encouraged to discriminate against.

    • Replies: @216
    , @Not My Economy
  53. 216 says: • Website
    @216

    Google moderation is rooted in the prevention of “copyright infringement”, much of which is now handled by AI.

    Facebook moderation has a different root cause, presumably “cyberbullying” and “revenge porn”.

    https://slate.com/technology/2018/01/facebook-and-google-are-building-an-army-of-content-moderators-for-2018.html

    A frequent leftist complaint is that content moderators are often not FAANG employees, but hired by Indian contractors. Forcing more “techletariat” under the Big Social roof would presumably add unionization risk.

    https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=0f2e5bc581f5ed31&tk=1dkhhuuo92ui1000&from=serp&vjs=3&advn=4000183153492290&adid=126266132&sjdu=aZEJ15zzFpFvIu3HGYgqt_ooKvTqUz4PtoQ9aY_4j95QugaHwUVRDjoza2cGz-sfHPWYoa7Xwi1vYuCz2DZ0pq8cVy6xM-nm_C8kkVB7xWM

    This is almost certainly a Big 5 contractor. I presume the reason they don’t allow “remote work” (which would dramatically curb expenses) is the risk of embarassing internal policies leaking out.

    One major think to be thinking about: A Dem President and Dem Congress will surely lift the cap on H-1B visas. Many of those H-1B(X) might be censors.

  54. @216

    The easiest way around these policies is to attack individuals, particularly politicians, and scrupulously avoiding anything that even hints at violence.

    The easiest way around is to communicate offline. I ultimately think trying to work around these type of policies is doomed to fail. They will ban whoever they want (all of us) under whatever pretext they want. There is no referee, and they are muh private companies. They already know who they want to ban, the rules are just the excuse they give. There’s a limited amount of mileage (if any) left to get out of “we followed all the rules and those libruls banned us anyway” soon (if not already) we just look like losers. I do agree that picking an individual target and attacking that individual target is a good strategy.

    • Replies: @216
  55. 216 says: • Website
    @Not My Economy

    The easiest way around is to communicate offline. I ultimately think trying to work around these type of policies is doomed to fail

    I encourage “self-deplatform” for a reason. I followed PrisonPaul onto Telegram, for the most part unless you post pron they don’t ban.

    There’s a limited amount of mileage (if any) left to get out of “we followed all the rules and those libruls banned us anyway”

    This is actually very important. Cons are very deveoted to principle, and fair play is a classical Anglo-Saxon value. Conservatives have a huge bias against government regulation, viewing it as a last resort. They must be pushed onto that “fatal ground”.

    The system wants to ensure that only Shapiro and Prager type content is the only thing allowed for the Right. But at the same time, a lot of the left are unaware of this and have attacked both content creators. When it looked like Prager was going to get banned, Conservative Inc suddenly discovered a use for regulation!

    So if we are still maintaining (non-producing) accounts on Big Social, reporting anything borderline by these two is very beneficial.

    • Replies: @iffen
  56. iffen says:
    @216

    Cons are very deveoted to principle, and fair play is a classical Anglo-Saxon value.

    Which is a fatal flaw. Their opposition has no doubt that the ends-justify-the-means and operates with this in mind. Meanwhile their victims get Watsoned or worse and fall upon their own swords of muh free speech, muh liberties, muh academic freedom.

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  57. Nodwink says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Charles can’t be bothered uploading a profile pic? Poor effort, very disappointing.

  58. @Charles Pewitt

    Ayn Rand And John Stossel Are Anti-White And Anti-Christian — That Is There Animating Motivation. The Enemy To Karl Marx And George Soros And Ayn Rand And John Stossel Is European Christendom.

    I got caught up in my own honorably righteous and much needed rant against the evils of libertarianism and I spelled a word wrong.

    That Is Their Animating…

    They’re — There — Their

    They’re bringing their own beer over there. That’s nice of them!

  59. @Charles Pewitt

    The alt right was named after a swimsuit model? And 88 means twelve different things?

    Somebody pull me out of this rabbit hole, pronto!

  60. @Matra

    I do not take donations (in case anyone wondered how I would’ve responded).

  61. @Toronto Russian

    Another entry for the Sinitic historians of the future as they’re writing The Decline and Fall of the Western World.

  62. 216 says: • Website
    @iffen

    It’s difficult, to be sure.

    When it comes to white liberals, they won’t wake up until they are actively rejected by non-whites. Think of the massive majority for LBJ in ’64, followed by major rioting that contributed to the Nixon victory in ’68 where Humphrey was down to 42% of the vote. Blacks returned the favor of civil rights laws with rioting and crime.

    The path I went personally into dissident politics has a lot to do with personal disgust at black jubilance at the re-election of Obama. I had drunk the mainstream conservative Kool-aid that we were “reaching out” for a “fresh start” with blacks. There was also that “unskewed polls” thing, that made the scale of Romney’s loss and leftist gloating quite an unpleasant surprise.

    Another vista, if you are familiar with Longmire on Netflix. The series is based off a book about a sheriff in the rural Western US, with nearly every episode being about homicide (if this was a real county it would be at Brazil levels of violence). Unusually for a mainstream show, there’s no hagiography of the Indians. The reservation is run by a mob boss, who had a backstory as a terrorist.

    The sheriff’s daughter is a do-gooder white liberal, who in the latter part of the series is paid to run an NGO on the reservation by the mob boss with his casino revenue. They intially welcome her, and give her the white liberal apotheosis by making her an “honorary tribal member”. But they turn on her because of their “anti-vaxxer” attitudes. Here the writers got ahead of themselves, as they portrayed a “white savior” as unironically good, and non-whites as outright evil. It’s almost unthinkable in mainstream television. Obviously the writers weren’t going to transform the do-gooder into a race realist; but this ending probably would have been more compelling.

    That’s where things will have to get before people have decided that both cheeks have been turned and thus slapped; making it acceptable to fight back. People will need to have their illusions shattered, and that is something that even mainstream conservatives balk at.

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  63. iffen says:
    @216

    When it comes to white liberals, they won’t wake up until they are actively rejected by non-whites.

    Not going to happen. The white man’s burden and missionary spirit has been around for centuries and has gotten stronger each generation. Throw in the Puritan streak and you get today’s totalitarian SJWs.

    I had drunk the mainstream conservative Kool-aid that we were “reaching out” for a “fresh start” with blacks.

    Yes, I was fooled by this as well. I thought that his election would somehow improve race relations. Joke’s on us I guess. It seems that it will turn out to be the momentous event that wasn’t.

    Maybe if we got a Presidential pardon for John Brown and replaced the Jefferson Memorial with the John Brown Memorial things would look up.

  64. Dutch Boy says:

    When “It’s okay to be white” is considered a hate slogan, anything is possible.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone

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