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Most Americans think purveying fake news is part of the corporate media’s stock-in-trade. The following graph shows the percentages of respondents, by selected demographics, who believe the media maintains its integrity. They answered that “mainstream media outlets” either “rarely” or “never” report “fake news”. The residual percentages are those who think the media reports fake news either “sometimes” or “most of the time” (the plurality chose “most of the time”). “Not sure” responses, constituting 11% of the total, are excluded:

Spending the better part of three years breathlessly reporting on a risible hoax is poor form, but it must be going too far to label the media as an enemy of or unfriendly to the American people!

Half the country disagrees. The percentages of people who think the media is “friendly” or an “ally” of the American people, with residual values showing the percentages who view it to be “unfriendly” towards or an “enemy” of Americans. “Not sure” responses, constituting 17% of the total, are again excluded:

This survey was conducted before it was revealed that the corporate media, servant of Moloch, sacrificed the safety and well-being of countless children to allow “the most prolific pedophile this country has ever known” to continue predatorily serving up young teenagers to powerful men.

The story was prepared, the interviews done–and then it was shelved for political (and presumably satanic) reasons.

They’ll give you months of Kavanaugh’s accusers providing shifting and uncorroborated tales from several decades ago but they won’t give you a word from dozens of underage girls intimately involved with a man who was indicted and convicted for pimping them out.

They’ll push a picture on you of a migrant boy in the sand to shuffle the world’s populations around at the behest of the 1%, but they won’t lift a finger to protect untold numbers of American girls from the sexual appetites of that same 1%.

If there was any residual doubt in your mind about the contemporary corporate media existing for a purpose other than speaking power to truth, it’s long past time to throw that doubt out.

 
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  1. songbird says:

    I always thought the Left’s obsession with Fox News was really bizarre. Maybe, anti-hereditarians are more obsessed with the information war. But is Fox News really against the establishment? Doesn’t seem that way to me.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  2. Nodwink says:

    The US media are pathological liars, but I wonder if Trump’s use of the term “fake news” (which in his mind is any negative comment about him or his administration) has poisoned the debate around this term. This would explain (to some extent, at least) the large discrepancy between Democrat and Republican responses to this.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  3. El Dato says:

    Did 81% of Democrats believe that the media is friendly during the days of Clinton’s “vast right-wing conspiracy”?

    If not, do they really believe that things have actually become better 20 years later, in the age Twitter mentalities report deeply about Twitter spats and you feel that editors are holding a large pillow to the face of a still slightly struggling populace.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  4. PhilK says:

    Journalistic Integrity. Easter Bunny. Tooth Fairy. Loch Ness Monster.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  5. dfordoom says: • Website

    Journalistic integrity not only doesn’t exist, it never did exist. Journalists are whores, always have been whores. And they’re not whores with hearts of gold.

    There never was a golden age of journalism.

    And it has nothing to do with left or right or liberal or conservative. All journalists are whores.

    There’s no such thing as real news or fake news. The news is just the most convenient lie.

    • Disagree: iffen
    • Replies: @alexander
  6. @songbird

    Faux News is at best the controlled opposition.

    Not one damn thing that makes the national TeeVee news is honest, and I include a description of the sky outside a window in the studio.

    Never before in the History of Mankind have more people lived in a sea of utter mis- (if not dis-) information, which is far worse than simply living in ignorance.

    How thick is the Antarctic icecap?
    How much rain fell in LA last week or last year?
    What’s the situation in Chile, Syria or Sudan?

    I don’t know, and what’s better, neither do you. We’re fed a steady diet of lies and occasional granules of truth that are buried in an ocean of conflicting data, and we smugly conclude that we’re “informed.”

    We live in a Matrix. The entire world that we have no direct, personal and ongoing experience with is quite literally CGI nowadays. But people will practically come to blows arguing over things about which neither side has any direct knowledge.

    That’s F’ed up.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  7. Coemgen says:
    @Nodwink

    “The media” has always generated “fake news” (propaganda). The issue with “fake news” is that it has become so lopsided that almost all the political news we see or hear supports the current Democrat Party narrative and undermines the non-Democrat Party message. We have to work at finding a counterpoint to that narrative. We have to work hard to find straight news.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Nodwink
  8. Paul Kersey over on SBPDL channel makes essentially an entire blog about how slanted is “the news.”

    Why is “the news” slanted? Because “the news” is simply the Ministry of Truth in today’s universal (ersatz) religion, Leftism, and the congregants want to be told what they believe.

    “The News” is thus part of the rationalization factory(tm), which exists to provide convenient rationalizations backing everyone’s gestalt, which is woven of threads made of nearly-literal fairy tales.

    People want to believe that we live in a Post-Scarcity place called Plenitude(R), where all people (regardless of color, creed or culture) aren’t just fellow citizens, they’re all FRIENDS, and where young and old, pretty and ugly, skinny and fat, smart and stupid, rich and poor…everyone lives just like they see on the Boob Tube.

    Thus, to me, “the news” is distilled down to what mass insanity looks like, a circular room lined with mirrors.

    We are lied to because we (or better, most of us) believe in lies, so we need to be told lies lest the cognitive dissonance in our heads render us gibbering idiots who roll on the floor in fetal position.

    Plenitude(R) = Mass Insanity.
    Mass Insanity requires Rationalizations.
    Industrial-scale Rationalizations = “the news.”

  9. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Epstein was accidentally killed when someone drove over him, backed up (over him) and ran him over (again.)

    Accidentally.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  10. Hail says: • Website

    Do we have any polling on how many believe “Epstein did not kill himself”?

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Audacious Epigone
  11. anon[920] • Disclaimer says:

    The US media are pathological liars, but I wonder if Trump’s use of the term “fake news” (which in his mind is any negative comment about him or his administration) has poisoned the debate around this term.

    You are confusing cause with effect. US media have been lying for years and years. Trump just happened to point out the obvious facts that the GOPe has been eliding for decades.

    Who was President in April, 1993? What did the US media lie about that year?

  12. alexander says:
    @dfordoom

    I am not sure that is entirely true.

    I think that CNN when it was owned by Turner Network Broadcasting, was an around the clock, no nonsense “meat and potatoes” news source….with an albeit, modest, liberal slant..

    From the 1970’s to the 1990’s our major news networks were never bias free, its true, but there was more integrity back then, in one hour of news programming, then there has been in the entire 19 years of post 9-11 coverage…

    We did “once” live in an age where our MSM was more diverse, more honest , and more respectful of the law.

    It wasn’t perfect, but it was a thousand times better than what we have today.

    We have been living in a “post 9-11” era of belligerent and systemic “fraud”.

    The lies our Neocon Empire have been telling us, through their Neocon Media , are so oriented towards perpetuating illegal wars of aggression, they are criminal in their very nature.

    It is tragic.

    Our MSM today , is more like Soviet News in its heyday, than any US news I remember growing up with.

    It is disgraceful.

    Absolutely disgraceful.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @PhysicistDave
  13. A123 says:

    The truth about Epstein:

    PEACE 😇

  14. A123 says:
    @Hail

    Do we have any polling on how many believe “Epstein did not kill himself”?

    Two problems with such a poll:

    — Who would be brave enough to ask that question?
    — And, would anyone be brave enough to give an honest answer?

    PEACE

    • Replies: @Hail
  15. unit472 says:

    Hard as it maybe to believe today, but there was a time when anti-trust laws were applied to media conglomerates. NBC ( the first media network was formed by RCA which was in turn part of GE. In 1932 it was forced to divest itself of both. Those early networks were still rather small operations in corporate terms. There were still plenty of independently owned TV and radio stations and while there were some large newspaper chains, Hearst, Newhouse etc., most large cities had several newspapers so there was some diversity of opinion. Now everything comes from the AP, New York Times and Amazon’s house organ the Washington Post

    Today almost all media is controlled by enormous corporations and they write the news that is fit to print or broadcast. Media no longer speaks for the ‘average man’. It speaks to the average man as it shuts the Overton window ever tighter. Apple has beguns sending what it considers news to my iPhone. I did not ask for their ‘news’ nor messages from Facebook on my FB timeline but they appear anyway. Its right out of that old TV sci-fi series The Outer Limits. “Do no attempt to adjust your TV set. We control the horizontal. We control the vertical”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  16. Spending the better part of three years breathlessly reporting on a risible hoax is poor form, but it must be going too far to label the media as an enemy of or unfriendly to the American people!

    The corporate propaganda whores and the politician whores conspire to keep the anti-White two-party totalitarianism going in the USA.

    White Core America will repudiate all government debt accumulated under the totalitarian globalizer plutocrat system that rules the USA.

    All government debt accumulated under totalitarian systems are ODIOUS DEBT.

    The corporate propaganda apparatus is the enemy of the American people.

    The corporate media is the enemy of the American people.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is the enemy of the American people.

    The hostile Third Worlder invaders are merciful, the dreaded enemy of the American people and the United States is the corporate media and the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    Tweets from 2015:

  17. @dc.sunsets

    Jeffrey Epstein died by his own hand.

    If you prefer, you can think of him as both the assassin and the mark rather than as a typical suicide. He shared the attitudes of the people who wanted him dead, he knew he was a liability, and he knew he had no way out. There is no evidence that anybody else was involved. The person in the best position to murder Jeffrey Epstein was Jeffrey Epstein, and he did it.

  18. onebornfree says: • Website

    There is absolutely no difference between the MSM and the government. The MSM _is_ the government, albeit behind a very thin veneer of supposed “honest” reportage [ ie “respectability”].

    Or to put it another way: ” The media is the entertainment wing of the military industrial complex” [or words to that effect]- Frank Zappa

    Regards,onebornfree

  19. dfordoom says: • Website
    @alexander

    We did “once” live in an age where our MSM was more diverse, more honest , and more respectful of the law.

    They were never honest or respectful of the law. The only difference is that there was more diversity – they were mostly filthy lying liberals but there was also a handful of filthy lying conservative journalists.

    They were still whores but they worked for a variety of pimps. Now the pimps are all pretty much the same.

  20. Gman says:
    @songbird

    Beyond Tucker (which the left hates even more than Fox), I find Fox to be idiotic (esp. Hannity and Glenn Beck when he was on)

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  21. I am disappointed yet delighted that ABC among others are in a sense outing their themselves for a lack of journalistic integrity.

    To see the open decline of the news media remains a very sad affair. Though it should come as little surprise that the latest issues are again surrounding democrats, Sec Clinton supporters and The Clinton organization itself.

  22. Gman says:

    @AE:

    Any updated thoughts on 2020 – I continue to be fascinated by it

    Recent polls in IA and NH only show the top vote getter get 20-22ish percent

    -Does Buttigieg have staying power?
    -Why is Hillary Clinton poo-pooing on medicare for all/wealth tax?
    -Yang seems to have stalled a bit

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  23. The problem is not that journalists are dishonest; it is that they are activists instead of professionals.

  24. @Gman

    Beyond Tucker (which the left hates even more than Fox), I find Fox to be idiotic (esp. Hannity and Glenn Beck when he was on)

    The antipodean arseholes in the Murdoch Mob that run Fox News and the Wall Street Journal are globalizer transnationalists who push mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and multiculturalism and anti-White nonsense and financialization and endless, overseas war on behalf of the millstone client state of Israel.

    Sean Hannity is a treasonous corporate propaganda whore who started out by pushing the Adelson stooge boy Newt Gingrich and Hannity is now pushing the Adelson stooge boy Trump.

    Glenn Beck is a rancid propaganda whore who pushes globalization and financialization and multiculturalism and mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration.

    The Evil Globalizer Murdoch Mob Must Be Removed From Power

    Tweets from 2015:

    • Agree: El Dato
  25. They should hand walter duranty awards to the biggest whopper told during the year. The worst part is explaining to normies the difference between lying through commission and lying through omission and how the later via the editing process is what constitutes the greater lie

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  26. El Dato says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Let’s say it’s not impossible.

  27. Dumbo says:
    @dc.sunsets

    It’s interesting to notice that, the more technology evolved to gather information (smartphones, drones, satellites, etc etc), the more it also evolved to make it easier to fake it, and so there is less actual, real information that we are able to obtain and to trust.

    • Replies: @Talha
  28. I noticed 2 major papers, the LA Times and the Boston Globe, have disabled commenting on the Mexican narco massacre of the LeBaron family. I can’t speak for the NY Times since I refuse to visit, but I bet it’s the same there.

    Yep, they have the interests of the American people at heart.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  29. Dumbo says:
    @Bragadocious

    The same is true of any news or Youtube video about “transgender children”. Usually comments are disabled.

  30. Hail says: • Website
    @Coemgen

    all the political news we see or hear supports the current Democrat Party narrative

    Except Fox News, which is a major R-Team cheerleader. Fox has its own agenda, but it’s not exactly the same as the other big ‘MSM’ players’.

  31. Dumbo says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I haven’t followed the details of this story, but it seems unlikely that he killed himself by his own hands. And even if he did, we’re not being told a lot of things about his life.
    Or are we also going to believe that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11, was killed by American soldiers and was “buried at sea”? That Khadaffi was deposed and murdered because he was “an evil dictator”? It’s very hard to trust anything in the media these days.

  32. iffen says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You are getting very close to a definition of a hero.

  33. Hail says: • Website
    @A123

    You’re right, and so anecdotal polling would be a next-best-thing.

    When the suicide was reported, I asked acquaintances what they thought about it. I think I asked, “Do you believe he killed himself?’ I think the ratio was around 15% believed the story; 35% no opinion, not sure, but at least skeptical; 50%+ seemed to actively believe he was killed to keep him quiet.

  34. @PhilK

    There are of course journalists with integrity–the CBS woman who leaked the recording, for instance–but the system works against them. It’s rarely easy to be a hero.

  35. “The death of journalistic integrity”? Why bring up ancient history?

  36. @Hail

    A couple of months ago I did a post on such a poll. The split was almost perfectly 33-33-33: A third believing suicide, a third believing homicide, a third unsure. I suspect the middle value has since gone up.

    • Replies: @Hail
  37. @Intelligent Dasein

    He beat the system before. Why wouldn’t he think he’d be able to beat it again?

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  38. @Gman

    1) No, I don’t think so. Buttigieg has abysmal numbers among blacks. Warren and Sanders don’t have great black support, but they at least have positive approval numbers among them.

    2) That’s where the money is. She could join now and outraise the rest of the field.

    3) He probably needs a new gimmick. Not sure he can ride UBI from now through the primaries.

  39. Gman says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    Thanks

    More news! Bloomberg might be getting in (I doubt he’d go far particularly in early states) and rumors of Eric Holder

    Holder could be interesting. He’s the son of immigrants from Barbados so might not be “black enough” OTOH, served in Obama admin

    I don’t know how much of Yang’s support is due to UBI rather than Yang being a genuine, likable person

    FWIW, Peter Thiel on Eric Weinstein’s podcast talked about UBI being an inherently negative message as it’s a way of telling the masses “you will never get ahead so here’s a $1,000”

    • Replies: @Feryl
  40. @Audacious Epigone

    Buttigieg has abysmal numbers among blacks.

    Note that Butt-gag tried to pander to the N.A.P.A.s, making a point of talking about “Whiteness” and how miserable it must be for blacks to have to constantly consider their blackness when Whites can go about their days and never have to think about Whiteness.  (There’s a whole continent where blacks can avoid thinking about their blackness.  It’s a shithole, but that’s what blacks have made it so they deserve it.)

    This is more “being born White is THE original sin”.  America is increasingly divided between those who fanatically endorse this, and those who are sick and tired of it and will overwhelmingly reject anyone who cleaves to it.  And, most ironically, it hasn’t improved Butt-gag’s approval from blacks.

    It’s past time for America to cut ties with the “gay community”.  No more payment for Truvada or anything like it.  No more new prescriptions for HIV medications save for those who are likely innocent victims.  You either stop voluntarily doing the things that get you infected, or you take the death sentence that you have earned through your actions.  We will watch your numbers crash as you get what you deserve.  And we will laugh all the while.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  41. anon[315] • Disclaimer says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    Not sure he can ride UBI from now through the primaries.

    Then let him take Lyft.

    • LOL: gman
  42. Hail says: • Website
    @Audacious Epigone

    Thanks. It looks like it’s this:

    http://www.unz.com/anepigone/conspiracy-nation/

    Comments are closed.

    It was an Emerson political survey of 1,458 US registered voters, focused on Democratic candidates but also asking peripheral questions (including a question “Are you a believer in QANON?” 5% Yes; 22% No; rest Unsure or hadn’t heard of Q-Anon). Sample was 67% White, 39% Democrat, 35% Republican, 26% Independent; data collected Aug. 24-26, after Epstein had been “found dead” on Aug. 10.

    Question wording: “Do you think Jeffrey Epstein was murdered or committed suicide?”

    – 499 said “Murdered”
    – 487 said “Suicide”
    – 471 said “Unsure”

    Overall split:
    34-33-32 Murdered-Suicide-Unsure

    White split:
    37-33-30 Murdered-Suicide-Unsure

    Republican split:
    46-26-28 Murdered-Suicide-Unsure

    It looks like that poll corroborates my anecdotal, word-of-mouth sample in August, which was heavily White and Republican-leaning, and which I characterized above as

    50%+ seemed to actively believe he was killed [=murder]; around 15% believed the story [suicide]; 35% no opinion, not sure, but at least skeptical

    My estimate of 50-15-35, vs. the 46-26-28 Republican result in this big poll.

    The split I saw from word-of-mouth (or recollection thereof, nearly three months later) is remarkably close to the Republican split in this professional poll.

    Sometimes the plural of anecdote is data.

    As commenter Charles Erwin Wilson 3 wrote last month at Steve Sailer’s blog:

    Anecdotes are not data.

    Anecdotes are data. You just need 31 of them, randomly selected, compute their mean, appeal to the Central Limit Theorem, and now you not only have data, it is normally distributed! (Well, the mean is, anyway.)

  43. @MikeatMikedotMike

    If you can produce any evidence of a murderer, then I will concede my error in public, right here in these pages. Is there even any evidence that there was anyone other than Jeffrey Epstein in his cell the night he died?

    You guys do remember evidence, don’t you? I thought the devotees of the Real Science!™ of HBD were supposed to be all about that stuff.

  44. Feryl says: • Website
    @Gman

    FWIW, Peter Thiel on Eric Weinstein’s podcast talked about UBI being an inherently negative message as it’s a way of telling the masses “you will never get ahead so here’s a $1,000”

    People born since the mid-1970’s don’t need to be told that “they’ll never get ahead”. They’ve been way behind their whole lives due to soaring living expenses, overcrowding, high immigration levels, etc. It’s easy to see why Yang is the first serious candidate to propose UBI, as Yang was born in 1979 so he has no investment whatsoever in the non-sense promulgated by GOP warriors in the 1980’s and 90’s about “America being great because hard work and honesty are always rewarded”. The Me Generation lucked into great prosperity and opportunity, then said “Fuck you” to later generations who would be denied the same conditions under which to do well.

    GOP BAU is finished. It’s dying along with the generations who got fat and rich in the later 20th century, and had zero gratitude for what was given to them. There isn’t anything special about America or Americans. A society will either be structured to benefit the working to middle class, and rising generations, or it will be elitist and geared toward the upper class and the aged. Well, it turns out there was nothing in the American character to prevent the slide toward elitism and corruption. This is what many X-ers and Millennials understand (Gen Z of course too), but many older people will never understand, because after all, they weren’t the primary victims of neo-liberalism. See also the fact that patriotism within America collapses with those born after the mid-70’s. America has been financially and culturally eviscerated by the greed and arrogance of the spoiled charlatans who claimed that it was too financially and psychologically onerous to downplay one’s selfish desires for the greater good of society.

    Thiel is a decadent yuppie who doesn’t know one thing about safe-guarding public well-being. Who gives a shit what he thinks?

  45. Talha says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Keep ‘em coming – these are hilarious!

    Peace.

  46. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You guys do remember evidence, don’t you? I thought the devotees of the Real Science!™ of HBD were supposed to be all about that stuff.

    One hatefact that right-wingers don’t like: right-wingers are every bit as dumb, every bit as gullible and every bit as emotion-driven as the squishiest liberals.

  47. @Audacious Epigone

    Um…duh…because the people and connections that allowed him to beat the system before were the very ones who pulled his card this time around.

    You seem not to be following my meaning here. It was not “the system” that Epstein was worried about. He knew that some big names were about to go down with him, and he just could not stomach being a part of that process.

    Besides, we’re talking about a man who made his living from perversion, sex trafficking, and blackmail. His soul was full of wretchedness. When such a soul knows that its time on Earth is up, suicide is a frequent occurrence.

    You’re doing a great disservice to the understanding when you simply proclaim, with no evidence at all, that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered. Murdered by whom? Where is the evidence?

  48. Twinkie says:

    So, according to the second set of graphs:

    People who are:

    Male
    Age 45-64
    “Others” race/ethnicity
    Republican

    are the most distrustful of the media as a “friend of the American people.”

    I, henceforth, with extreme hubris, term this the Twinkie demographic segment.

  49. Nodwink says:
    @Coemgen

    supports the current Democrat Party narrative

    It certainly supports the narrative of the Democrat Establishment. That’s less true of someone like Bernie Sanders, who seems to be unpopular with CNN & MSNBC in particular. Liberal media elites would hate a Trump/Sanders race, they despise them both.

  50. El Dato says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    “Epstein failed in his suicide attempt even though he chose the moment when guards were asleep and cameras not working”

    is not a headline that is very likely to be printed the next day.

    Also, what happened to

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/jeffrey-epstein-found-injured-marks-his-neck-new-york-jail-n1034301

    vaped off the news cycle?

  51. @alexander

    alexander wrote:

    I think that CNN when it was owned by Turner Network Broadcasting, was an around the clock, no nonsense “meat and potatoes” news source….with an albeit, modest, liberal slant..

    Yeah. Bernie Shaw, the African-American anchor at CNN, was a model of professionalism, decorum, intelligence, and objectivity compared to Anderson Cooper or the odious Don Lemon.

    Nobody’s perfect, but from Shaw to Cooper and Lemon is like going from Enrico Caruso to Milli Vanilli.

  52. @Intelligent Dasein

    Just messin with ya, ID. Personally, I think his death is highly suspicious, based on the circumstances, and it is unlikely he killed himself. But as you say, no credible evidence. The issue has quickly devolved into absurdity, with Epstein sightings at video arcades, flooring stores, and shooting unarmed Palestinians in the west bank. So I am content to not press the issue because it changes nothing. He’s dead and whatever he knew died with him. The memes however, do not disappoint.

    So I leave you with this:

  53. @Intelligent Dasein

    Occam’s Razor informs me that you’re wrong.

    Too many coincidences. But you’re welcome to believe what you want to believe, same as were the Heavens Gate followers. Belief trumps reality in most people’s minds anyway.

    FWIW, I actually have no clue what happened. I don’t even know if a man named Jeffrey Epstein even existed, and I have no idea if, were reports about him largely true, he’s even actually dead now.

    I didn’t know him.
    I wasn’t there.
    What I “know” is what I’m told.
    Given that I’m an actual “grown up,” this informs me that I have a choice between knowing that I don’t know and thinking that I know when in fact, I don’t. I’ll take the former. You do whatever the F you think you should.

    I know what’s in my hand, or within sight and within reach (and what I’m capable of doing with all of that.) If I have a saw and some wood, I know what I can build. If I have a match, I know what I can burn. If I have a knife, I know what I can cut.

    The rest is a figment of the pretense of knowledge.

  54. @Mr. Rational

    There are of course journalists with integrity–the CBS woman who leaked the recording, for instance–but the system works against them. It’s rarely easy to be a hero.

    It depends on how deep is the rabbit hole.

    Anonymous Conservative suggests that the entire Project Veritas “ABC breach” is just another part of the controlled narrative.

    First, play this tactically, and use it to attack the left. It is great ammo. Don’t let what I am about to say keep you from spreading it and using it to beat the left over the head over double standards and corruption. And don’t think I am saying O’Keefe isn’t legit, I think he is. But understand this is manipulation by Cabal. It is a sign of weakness and cracks, because we have been given ammo, but we have been given it because if they did not give this to us now, we would have gotten much more damaging ammo later.

    Lets start with a few touchstones we know. O’Keefe is under surveillance. Hostile, blanketing surveillance, I would assume, though it is possible if he hasn’t seen it, it has remained covert, or as covert as they can be. Although I put the chances less than 50:50, it would not surprise me if his emails come in first to some CIA-like operations center for the more exceptional troublesome little pricks, get reviewed, and get either deep sixed, or passed on, maybe altered, to him, and his responses make the same stopover before being deep-sixed or massaged and resent out to who he sent them. So this got to him, which it didn’t have to. Whoever sent it is in the media, which means they are 90+% or more likely to be Cabal, know about the surveillance, and are unlikely to disobey just for fear of what will happen to them and their cushy life. So if this was Cabal giving this to O’Keefe, or just letting it get through, why would they? Why would ABC even do the story on Epstein in the first place?

    My guess is Virginia Giuffre was identified as a risk years back. They knew she was an Epstein victim, so she got coverage. Surveillance might have heard her telling people about what happened to her, when she thought she was in the privacy of her home. The person she told could even have been a boyfriend sent in by Cabal to badger it out of her to see if she was a risk of talking. If she had kept her mouth shut they could have relaxed, and if she talked, they knew they needed to see how deep the rabbit hole was and how far she would go and what she had. She talked, and now they need to know how bad it could get. ABC is Disney, which is thoroughly comped, so they used their most loyal agents to pester her and get her to “do a story” (which would never air because Epstein was “with intelligence”). Remember Q saying something like, “Those who most betray you are those you would trust the most?” Well, those who are there to expose things and check unbridled evil are actually the ones there to protect it. If the media is dying for a story, if that story would make their careers, who would think they are Cabal agents, on Epstein’s side, working to help cover up his crimes? How would Robach even know Epstein, and why would she cover for him? How could she be connected to him?

    Of course, Roback does live TV on ABC’s morning show. She is under massive surveillance. Houses next door, vehicular, sound in her house – it would not surprise me if they have been inside her house and filled it with cameras, just to get sex tapes, for blackmail and the amusement of her usually bored-out-of-their-minds teams. There are people watching her every move and listening to her every word 24 hours per day, using tech you would not believe, just to make sure she never goes on air and blurts out the wrong thing. That said, she would almost certainly know and be cool with Cabal, because they have put her in a great position with lots of cash. But they watch her anyway, because if she gets on live TV and goes off-script, it would be bad. They will make the effort to be sure she is solid. I would assume she knows and accepts the coverage because the alternative is to not be cool with Cabal, which is not as much fun. Plus, I assume she is a sort of quasi CIA-agent, and this all comes with the gig in that world. She may even have been raised in a Cabal surveillance-family with all this, so it is normalized. So they sent her in to do a full Giuffre piece, and see just how bad it could be if Giuffre hooked up with a Russian media outlet, or somehow got her story out. Of course, this was an intel gathering op, under cover of journalism. And she took it all in, the interviews, the stories, the pictures, the evidence, and so on, and handed it off to Disney, which is in essence Cabal. That story was never going to air, but it did all go in Giuffre’s file, and factor into their strategy for her.

    At a time when literally trillions of dollars are in play, and when reasonably bright people notice that the CiA has its tentacles into places at which one can only express astonishment, I aver that there’s no cutoff point where we reach, “no, that’s simply not possible.”

    It’s obvious to me that there exists a Grand Conspiracy. AFAIC, the question is only one of scale (and depth.) Those who believe otherwise, who express a belief in the civics-class version of how our system works, are in my view phenomenally naive.

  55. @dc.sunsets

    I’m not going to check to see who you’re replying to, but those aren’t my words.

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  56. HoekomSA says:

    Is there proof that he really is dead? He may be quite happily sitting in Tel Aviv with his handlers laughing at the speculation

  57. @songbird

    I always thought the Left’s obsession with Fox News was really bizarre. Maybe, anti-hereditarians are more obsessed with the information war. But is Fox News really against the establishment? Doesn’t seem that way to me.

    The Narrative almost always takes the form of an managed dialectic, often known as the “kosher sandwich.”

    Subtler — and more effective over the long term — than a rigidly-enforced single party line.

  58. @Mr. Rational

    Sorry. I was actually replying to AE. Glitch in the Matrix.

  59. @dc.sunsets

    Anonymous Conservative suggests that the entire Project Veritas “ABC breach” is just another part of the controlled narrative.

    Could be. Related:

    – O’Keefe is now affiliated with Prager U

    – Who runs Prager U? An Israeli named Marissa Streit who is a veteran of Unit 8200 (Israeli military intelligence/ NSA equivalent). It’s no secret — she boasts about it in her own bio.

  60. anon[313] • Disclaimer says:

    Sorry. I was actually replying to AE.

    Here is a helpful tag.

    [MORE]

    Combined with links instead of a meter of quoted text it’s really neat to have around.

    Glitch in the Matrix.

    That movie is way overrated.

    PS: Epstein didn’t top himself. We can agree on that.

  61. AE: “the death of journalistic integrity”

    There was journalistic integrity? That was a thing? Guess I missed it.

    “When I want to know the news, I read Lord Byron.” — Frank O’Hara

  62. @Audacious Epigone

    I have no skill at political horsetrack-betting, but I still suspect Michelle Obama is going to sail in at the last minute, everyone will breathe a sigh of relief because she’s a glamorous black woman and thus the anti-Trump, she’ll energize the whole base like crazy, and everyone will winkingly know it’s really just Barack’s third term. She’ll win in a walk.

    Actually it will be Barack’s fourth and fifth terms, because Trump has already proven to be Barack’s third term for all practical purposes. He has done nothing useful in office except dodge political assassination attempts. In just a few more years, America really will be quite literally a “nation of immigrants,” because it will consist entirely of immigrants, and there won’t be any Americans left at all. White genocide must and will continue to proceed according to (((plan))).

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  63. anon[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I have a simple question: Did Vince Foster kill himself?

  64. Rosie says:
    @El Dato

    If not, do they really believe that things have actually become better 20 years later, in the age Twitter mentalities report deeply about Twitter spats and you feel that editors are holding a large pillow to the face of a still slightly struggling populace.

    My God that is a gruesome but sickeningly appropriate metaphor for the current state of affairs.s

  65. Anonymous[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @unit472

    Just as with any other notification feature, you can turn your phone News off, or select the sources it pulls from.

  66. @Intelligent Dasein

    Where is the evidence of suicide? The autopsy result appears to be the closest thing to actual evidence that we have, and third party observers say it’s consistent with homicide, not suicide.

    This question is tangential to the post. “The system” clearly does seem to have granted Epstein and the list of powerful people connected to him a three-year extension at the very least.

  67. @Intelligent Dasein

    As for pulling his card this time around, that never would’ve happened if not for Mike Cernovich and the Miami Herald. There was nothing inevitable about his being offed (by his hand or someone else’s).

  68. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Eric Holder or someone else in Barack Obama’s cabinet seems more likely to me.

    While I agree Michelle Obama would probably win easily–though she is bad off the cuff and could conceivably lay some really big debate eggs on stage with Trump–the idea of another wife of a former president running on nothing more than being the wife of a former president might be a bridge too far.

    There is no plan. If there is one thing I’ve come to realize in the last five years, it’s that there is no plan. We’re ruled over by a cabal of Caligulas.

  69. @Audacious Epigone

    Eric Holder is a hateful, racist, shallow despicable prat, and not one person on the surface of planet Earth loves him, not even his mom. Trump would deep-fry him in the space of a minute.

    Michelle Obama doesn’t have to debate Trump, she doesn’t even really have to actually make a rhetorical case for herself. All she has to say is, “Look, I’ve already lived in the White House for eight years, so I know presidential protocol and the basic structure of national policy. I have degrees from Princeton and Harvard, so at the very least you know I’m not a rube. I won’t be President Michelle so much as I will be the figurehead and spear-point of Team Anti-Trump: as president, I will surround myself with crafty Jewish advisers, I will have the advice of my successful president husband, and the backing of every Jewish billionaire on earth. Roughly 45 percent of the electoral college is automatically locked up for us Dems no matter what, all I need to do is convince a few swing voters, and we already have full-spectrum non-stop media and political assassination projects ongoing 24/7 against this guy. How hard can this be?”

    The truth is, no matter who nominally wins the election, the actual winner will be, as always, the Jews. Michelle is a better deflector of this uncomfortable fact; Bloomberg would make it too obvious.

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