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Michael Bloomberg kicked off his presidential candidacy in stark contrast to how Donald Trump introduced his own in 2015. To Trump’s intolerable implication that immigrants may not in all cases be superior to native-born Americans, Bloomberg laudably asserted immigrants are superior to native-born Americans in every way:

On his second day campaigning for the Democratic nomination, the former New York City mayor contrasted his views on immigration with President Donald Trump’s restrictive policies and laid out a vision of a multicultural society enriched by immigrants.

“We need immigrants to take all the different kinds of jobs that the country needs — improve our culture, our cuisine, our religion, our dialogue and certainly improve our economy,” the billionaire told reporters at a Mexican restaurant in Phoenix.

Culture, cuisine, and the economy are open borders boilerplate. But explicitly talking about how immigration improves the country’s religious composition is novel for a politician on the national stage so far as I’m aware. How long before Democrats publicly and explicitly celebrate immigration improving our racial composition for making it less white?

The most significant religious consequence of modern immigration into the US has been to make the country significantly less Protestant. Catholicism is the big winner, but Islam, Orthodox Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Judaism have all gained market share at the expense of Protestantism as well:

While religiously observant Jews presumably have more animosity towards Catholicism than Protestantism, secular American Jews like Bloomberg reserve their strongest resentment for WASPs on account of their historical golf course exclusivity.

GSS variables used: YEAR(2000-2018), RELIG, BORN

 
• Category: Culture/Society, Ideology • Tags: Election 2020, Immigration 
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  1. Tusk says:

    Thank GOD for the “tradcath” Mexicans and Africans!

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
  2. gman says:

    what are your thoughts on bloomberg’s candidacy and the rest of the 2020 field?

  3. anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:

    Protestantism… Schmotestantism!!

    Just various forms of pagan mangods-worshipping godlessness. What good are they which will lead man to Hell.

  4. Talha says:

    Muslims and Hindus, poop-colored…

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  5. if Bloomberg doesn’t spend at least 1 billion dollars of his own money, how serious is he?

    Steve Ballmer calmly laid down a cool 2 billion dollars without hesitation to greatly overpay for a single NBA franchise. i think the Presidency of the United States is worth more than 1 NBA team out of 30.

    and it can’t be about anything else. Bloomberg is famous, well known, a billionaire many times over, and is coming towards the end of his life. he can’t possibly be running for any other reason than to actually become President. the only other possible angle is that he’s trying to force the serious candidates into the middle ground, attempting to make them more electable, so they don’t fly far off into left field, literally, and give Trump the exact thing he needs to barely squeak out yet another razor thin Electoral College win.

    which is effectively the same thing – yet another Jewish candidate who wants WASP America to end NOW. so why not spend at least a billion?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  6. Michael S says:

    You do realize that that’s not what he means by religion, right? He is speaking in the power language of the progressive elite; “our religion” means roughly the same thing as “our democracy”. That is, the religion of the elite; that is, Progressivism.

    Yes, Latin Americans bring Catholicism into the country, but like all other aspects of immigration, progressives conceive of it only in terms of cultural Epcotization. The cuisine, the culture, and the religion are all supposed to be pleasant little variations on American Progressivism.

    Of course, we all know that’s not how it actually turns out. Progressives are now so out of touch with reality that they have actually started to believe their own lies. In their tiny walled gardens, the Epcotization sort of works, so they have no idea what normies of any color really experience.

    And that is why Bloomberg will crash and burn. Aside from being another pale stale male, with none of the black street cred of Joe Biden, he also speaks in the same cryptic dialect as Eric Schmidt and other prog billionaires, and has no idea how to communicate in a way that normal people can actually understand. He’ll have speechwriters, but the live debates will be painful to watch, Trump will eviscerate him.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  7. Dumbo says:

    It is unlikely that this fool can be elected. There is a reason why Jews usually prefer to work behind the scenes; they are more effective that way. In any case, I doubt he’s serious.

    Also, many Latinos are counted as “Catholic” by default, but they are really pentecostal Protestants, especially the more recent waves and the ones born in America. Lots of Evangelical churches in East L.A.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  8. How long before Democrats publicly and explicitly celebrate immigration improving our racial composition for making it less white?

    Must admit, I’m somewhat mystified by this question. It’s my perception that many Democrats have been doing this–yes, explicitly–for many years now. Decades in some cases.

    • Agree: El Dato
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  9. Nodwink says:

    I think you’ve wasted an entire post getting mad at what looks to me like garden-variety waffle that empty suits like Bloomberg love to spew.

    My guess is that Bloomberg’s brain registered that celebrating spicy tucker was indeed “boilerplate,” and that throwing in something with more gravitas would make his statement seem more serious than just expanding his take-out options. I don’t think he wants Kansas covered with Hindu temples, just to wind up whitey.

  10. Bloomberg’s reference to religion is surely bizarre. An experienced speaker would probably not say such a thing. The concept of an American religion, composed of the sum and interplay of all the religions in America, is unheard of, I think. Perhaps the closest one gets is the notion of Ecumenism, but that is usually restricted to Christianity. There is also the phrase “judaic-christian tradition”, which is very much in vogue and has been dealt some blows in an article here at Unz recently. Perhaps Bloomberg is trying to expand it to “(insert denomination)-islamic-buddhist-hindu-judaic-christian tradition”.

    For what it’s worth, there are two kinds of people who take religion seriously: low IQ believers and high IQ nonbelievers who regard religion as socially necessary and so act as to encourage it by pretending to believe.

  11. Mike Bloomberg must be financially liquidated — in a legally sanctioned manner — and then Bloomberg must be strongly encouraged to leave the USA without a possibility of entering or staying in any other European Christian nation. I would apply this same treatment to most billionaires. White Core America needs a William the Conqueror to dislodge the plutocrats and the ruling class from power, and the tax code could that very nicely.

    The New York Times, bless their hearts, has been doing a great job of providing wedges to split the Republican Party, and one of the wedges is how it has been reported that most Americans would like to see the plutocrats and billionaires taxed at a much higher rate and to also include a wealth tax that hits the plutocrats every place they try to stash loot.

    The New York Times has also said that White Men With College Degrees are the only voter bloc to resist the allure of taxing the plutocrats and the billionaires so hard their pips squeak. Tom Edsall of the New York Times has written about the White Men Without College Degrees who are making big loot out of cheap labor and globalization, and they would resist a wealth tax too.

    I think Warren’s 2 percent wealth tax is a bit too puny to sufficiently reduce the political power of plutocrats. I would make the wealth tax about 90 percent and I would use that money to reward all Americans with all blood ancestry born in the USA before 1924 or in colonial America.

    The corporate tax rate should go from the current 21 percent to 91 percent too.

    Mike Bloomberg pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration for two reasons:

    1) Bloomberg wants more and more cheap labor to satisfy his rancid greed for more money, and 2) Bloomberg is a Jew who wants to continue to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the USA using mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration as a demographic weapon.

    Mike Bloomberg the billionaire Jew is in agreement with Republican Party treasonites such as Dan Crenshaw and Marco Rubio and Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley and Lindsey Graham and Mike Lee and others who want to continue to flood the USA with nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration.

    White Core America Party Immigration Plan:

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!

    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW!

  12. Mike Bloomberg is an evil billionaire Jew globalizer who uses his money to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

    Mike Bloomberg must have his power removed from him and, to encourage other future plutocrats to behave better, Mike Bloomberg must be taxed so hard his head starts spinning.

    Billionaires who push nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration, such as the Koch Boys — or Koch boy, after one croaked — Mike Bloomberg, Shelly Adelson and Mark Zuckerberg must be taxed at a punitive and prohibitive rate so as to completely and totally render them powerless in American politics.

    TAX THE GREEDY GLOBALIZER PLUTOCRATS NOW!

    Tweets from 2014:

  13. I’m Catholic.

    Latin Americans do not improve our Church.

    All they do for us little people is make confession take longer than it should.

    • Replies: @Dutch Boy
    , @RadicalCenter
  14. Dutch Boy says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    The Church in Latin America is in even worse shape than in the USA, with almost single digit regular mass attendance, massive conversions to American-style Gospel of Prosperity churches, and sodomite legislative initiatives spreading all around the region. The Mexican-American [sic] legislators in California also support sodomite legislation. Oremus!

  15. SafeNow says:

    “ we need immigrants to fill all of the jobs that America needs”

    I doubt immigrants can fill “all.” If you look at a list of the 10 job categories that employers have the most difficulty filling, you will see accountants, financial consultants, engineers, and the skilled trades, such as electricians. Outside this standard list of employer shortfalls is the physician shortage, which is becoming more and more acute, including surgeons. And then there is the Airline-pilot shortage; flying a commercial airliner is not like flying a leaf blower, sorry.

  16. “All they do for us little people is make confession take longer than it should.”

    Laugh.

  17. I’m most intrigued by his use of the word “dialogue.” Does Max Boot improve our national dialogue? How about David Frum? My hunch is that by using that specific word, Bloomie is hinting at a future where dialogue will in fact be shut down to protect the immivasion pets he needs to manicure his fairways. That would be an improvement, wouldn’t it.

    • Replies: @iffen
  18. iffen says:
    @Bragadocious

    I’m most intrigued by his use of the word “dialogue.”

    I think that it likely means the same as, “We need to have this conversation about race.” Which means: You need to stop thinking like a racist, and think the way that I tell you.

  19. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:

    Since Bloomberg is very unlikely to even get nominated no matter how much money he spends, what’s the point of this remark? Perhaps Mike Bloomberg has decided to float the trial balloon, doing the work that other Dems won’t or can’t do? A fair question he would not answer: “What’s wrong with our religions, and what do you suggest to replace them?”

    For lolz, just ask him why he wants to get rid of Santeria.

  20. Jay Fink says:

    I am rooting against Bloomberg harder than anyone else running. I disagree with everything he says. I am a conservative but for some reason corporate centrist types are more offensive to me than far leftists.

  21. Talha says:

    Good read:
    “Unwin found that when strict prenuptial chastity was abandoned, absolute monogamy, deism, and rational thinking disappeared within three generations….Unwin’s three main predictions — the abandonment of rationalism, deism, and absolute monogamy — are all well underway, which makes the ultimate prediction appear to be credible…the collapse of Western civilization in the third generation.”
    https://www.kirkdurston.com/blog/unwin

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  22. We need immigrants to improve our religion.

    An interesting assertion. Especially coming from a Jew. Maybe this is Bloomberg pulling the extreme left to the center by suggesting that religion need not be destroyed. It can instead be improved.

    Anyway. I hope he wins. I need help with sugary drinks.

  23. Mark G. says:
    @Talha

    The decline in monogamy is a sign of the civilizational decline in general. The abandonment of monogamy can be seen in the increasing divorce rates. The manosphere often charges women with hypergamy but that is just half the story. Women tend towards hypergamy instead of monogamy but men aren’t naturally monogamous either. Men tend towards polygamy. Men are tempted to keep their wife and also at the same time secretly add a second sexual partner. When caught at it by their wives, the wives often file for divorce. Wives don’t have the same level of desire to have a second sexual partner as often as men do. Their hypergamy, though, leads them to look for a better partner and if they think they have found one they will file for divorce from their current husband. The fact that over two thirds of divorces are filed by women show that both of these factors are operating. The divorces are not solely the fault of the wife. Not just a desire for a better husband but also anger at a currently cheating husband who shouldn’t be cheating on them gives women multiple reasons to divorce which is why they initiate divorces more often than men. Religious beliefs operating in western society discouraged both the male and female inclination away from monogamy and the decline in religion along with the advance of a welfare state that discourages marriage and encourages single motherhood has led to a decline in monogamy. The result is that small numbers of the most desirable men form sexual harems, larger numbers of men become incels, and larger numbers of women get sexual access to the most desirable men but become unhappy in the long term as they unsuccessfully try to get these men into long term committed relationships.

  24. Talha says:
    @Mark G.

    Basically…and all combine to put your civilization/society into a nosedive.

    But, there is a silver lining as the man’s research indicates:
    1) You’ll simply regress to a previous tier as a civilization/society and mull around in that mess until you get your act together – basically it is cyclical
    2) You’ll get taken over by another civilization/society and it will breathe new vigor into you

    Or, to look at it another way, only way to go when you hit rock bottom – is up:

    Peace.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  25. @Mark G.

    I also think that “incel” is kind of an overblown thing, though. When you talk to Boomers, many will admit that it wasn’t always easy getting laid in their early 20s. But, most of them did end up finding wives.

    The culture pushes constant sex on people, so they feel bad if they are not currently getting any. 30 years ago this below average guy might have not felt great, but now thanks to the culture and the internet, he goes online and finds out “oh I am an incel, might as well give up” and so it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

    Even my father didn’t date anybody until he was 24. He ended up doing fine. If “incel” was a thing back then, maybe he would have given up and wallowed in self-pity instead.

    • Replies: @anon
  26. “The culture pushes constant sex on people, so they feel bad if they are not currently getting any. 30 years ago this below average guy might have not felt great, but now thanks to the culture and the internet . . .”

    Failure at not having married. But certainly for not having relations outside of marriage.

  27. anon[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    I also think that “incel” is kind of an overblown thing, though. When you talk to Boomers,

    you wind up hearing a lot of irrelevant and boring crap. Because no one can talk to Boomers, they do not listen. Oh, they’ll talk and talk and talk and talk. But listen? No way.

    many will admit that it wasn’t always easy getting laid in their early 20s. But, most of them did end up finding wives.

    So what? That’s retarded. It’s not 1973, ok? You can’t get an entry level job at 2x the minimum wage in the same car plant your Dad works at for many reasons. You can learn to code, but will be competing with H1b’s. You won’t be working at Xerox or Kodak and vesting in that great defined benefit retirement plan, either. For sure you won’t be marrying a virgin who just got her Bachelors in elementary education, who really wants to stay home with babies. No, you’ll be hanging out with the girl from three rows down in the cube farm, who is in competition with you for the next promotion. Maybe. Or you’ll be chatting up the barista with the BA in creative writing, who likes to show off her new tats, and who can’t find a real job, either. Etc.

    tl;dr
    OK, Boomer!

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
  28. For the record:

    The “holidays” are about two primary events

    That colonists got down on their faces that God saved them by way of native american intelligence regarding how to grow crops in that part of North America. Native of americans should celebrate the day as the the day white europeans were were no as smart as they thought they were and god’s grace includes native american wisdom.

    I don’t get into the day for personal reasons, not social political gestations about who, what and why the day — The day is about thanking god — for food and graceful natives.

    I don’t do Jesus birth for personal reasons, but it’s not “Happy Holidays”

    It’s “Christmas”

    And both celebrations are about the one most high and the desired relationship he desires with his creation of humans and that which he desires the same humans would extend to each other.

    Good grief liberals get a grip.

    My nonparticipation goes to the events of 2003 just before the Christmas break — it has nothing to do muslim, jewish, hindi, buhdist pagan or atheist, corporate or foreign hyperventilating about western traditions among christians.

    Holy Days as designated by people of the faith who calls all men to holiness by way of the birth, death and ressurrection of one Jesus Christ.

  29. @anon

    Oops. Meant to hit TROLL.

    Sorry, if you think the Boomer women were chaste you are most delusional.

  30. “So what? That’s retarded. It’s not 1973, ok?”

    So, instead of answering the content on the table. It’s off to the races, to change the subject. If the real problem is that one has to compete with women, you need to have some ideas about how to change that scenario. I fully support hiring US citizens to work for companies in the US, not an issue. H1a, c, d, or e Visas should be on the moratorium list. But what then is the response to curtailing competing with women. I know the “G” crowd hates dealing in actual details, but what we do have a constitution that operates in a post male had of household schema. Surely there is some case one makes to address the problem you say exists.

    I think it requires more than a so what. In the scenario describe there are two issues women and VISA employment. Resolving one is fairly straight forward. But the other requires some form of plan action to address. I am of course interested in hearing yours.

    I am further curious why the following be accurate,

    “No, you’ll be hanging out with the girl from three rows down in the cube farm, who is in competition with you for the next promotion. Maybe. Or you’ll be chatting up the barista with the BA in creative writing, who likes to show off her new tats, and who can’t find a real job, either. Etc.”

  31. @Dumbo

    True, and many, many Latinos in the USA do not attend church of any kind more than a couple times per year if that, including recent immigrants and certainly their children.

    Here in Los Angeles, i have worked for years with and gotten to know several younger Mexican-“Americans” who are generally culturally far-left and non-religious (from a nasty lesbian to a very pleasant straight young lady (all four grandparents from Mexico) who in conversation has indicated that she does not go to church any more and, in a separate conversation, doesn’t understand why homosexuals wouldn’t be allowed to get married and adopt children, just because she grew up in LA and this is all she ever hears (!)).

    I have a mex-am acquaintance outside work who’s in his 40s and completely nonreligious. Both parents came from Mexico, I’m gleaning illegally.

    I’ll bet there are more evangelical, atheist, agnostic, and simply religiously indifferent Latinos in the USA , combined, than catholic ones by now. I can’t imagine that the rampant ongoing homosexuality among the RC clergy serves to foster trust and respect among any normal couple with children to guide and protect, including latino immigrants with kids. Perhaps the unmanliness, perversion, and slinking around of the RC priests and bishops is especially off putting to Latinos with a more traditional concept of masculinity, Who can blame them.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  32. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Agreed. Problem is, the RC priests and bishops don’t improve the church either.

  33. correction: I am further curious why the following would be accurate,

    “No, you’ll be hanging out with the girl from three rows down in the cube farm, who is in competition with you for the next promotion. Maybe. Or you’ll be chatting up the barista with the BA in creative writing, who likes to show off her new tats, and who can’t find a real job, either. Etc.”

  34. @gman

    Posting tonight. Will enjoy one last good meal of Krow.

  35. @Talha

    Is semen-colored any better?

    Hey–you’re the one who brought up poop, so don’t go accusing me of vulgarity!

    • LOL: Talha
  36. @prime noticer

    More charitably, he may really think the country is the economy and he’s worried the progressive wing of the Democrat party is going to cause markets to plummet, and is thus worried in his own way that the current crop really does threaten the future of the US.

  37. @HammerJack

    That’s been the implication, but I’m talking about this level of explicitness:

    • Replies: @Talha
  38. @RadicalCenter

    According to the GSS spanning 2010-2018, 55% of Hispanics identify religiously as Catholic, so by now that’s probably correct–and that’s assuming that 55% Catholic isn’t lapsed to the point of being unable to name the three parts of the trinity.

  39. Talha says:

    For consideration…

    “But in Utah — deeply conservative, deeply devout, predominantly white Utah — the response has been altogether different. The governor, a Republican who aligns with Trump on most issues, wrote the president a letter in late October….He didn’t want to keep refugees out. He didn’t want to reduce their numbers. He wanted Trump to send more….Republicans in the state legislature quickly backed up their governor, daring to defy a president who has repeatedly shown an unwillingness to tolerate intraparty dissent. So did Republican members of the state’s congressional delegation. So did Republicans in city halls. Democrats across Utah added their support.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/trump-gave-states-the-power-to-ban-refugees-conservative-utah-wants-more-of-them/2019/12/02/d8de7b00-1085-11ea-a533-90a7becf7713_story.html

    Peace.

  40. Talha says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    The wokeness is everywhere!!! Check this one out – especially note the black auntie that was going to whup him with her cane!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    Missed a chance for this to go viral. I could see him struggling on the ground as the old lady beats the crap out of him while he screams; “Don’t cane me bro!!!”

    Peace.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
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