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The Imperial Capital is the only ‘state’ in the country that has, since 1970, lost non-whites and gained whites, in both absolute numbers and in percentage-terms. Funny how the political power center driving the Great Replacement has itself not only remained impervious to that replacement, it has–alone among the states–actually reversed the trend.

The following graph and table show the percentage of total population growth between 1970 and 2018, by state, that is attributable to non-whites (or to those who are not non-Hispanic white, more precisely). Data is from the US Census:

State %fromPOC
1) New York 100.0
1) Illinois 100.0
1) New Jersey 100.0
1) Pennsylvania 100.0
1) Massachusetts 100.0
1) California 100.0
1) Connecticut 100.0
1) Ohio 100.0
1) Michigan 100.0
1) Rhode Island 100.0
1) Iowa 100.0
1) Maryland 100.0
1) West Virginia 100.0
14) Hawaii 97.0
15) Kansas 80.5
16) New Mexico 77.9
17) Oklahoma 75.8
18) Texas 75.7
19) Louisiana 74.6
20) Nebraska 74.6
21) North Dakota 70.7
22) Delaware 65.9
23) Indiana 63.9
24) Wisconsin 63.8
25) Georgia 63.1
26) Mississippi 60.4
27) Virginia 59.9
28) Nevada 58.1
29) Minnesota 57.3
30) Florida 57.0
31) South Dakota 56.9
32) Alabama 52.8
33) Washington 51.9
34) Arizona 51.5
35) Alaska 50.6
36) North Carolina 49.7
37) Missouri 49.7
38) Oregon 44.0
39) Arkansas 42.4
40) Colorado 42.0
41) South Carolina 41.6
42) Tennesee 39.6
43) Kentucky 35.4
44) Montana 29.8
45) Utah 29.1
46) Idaho 27.5
47) Wyoming 27.2
48) Maine 23.3
49) Vermont 22.7
50) New Hampshire 19.9
51) District of Columbia 0.0

Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming have experienced a lot of white population growth over the last half-century. Mormon fertility makes a difference. Or at least it used to.

 
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  1. A better idea would be to have white shitlibs and their (((overlords))) plus the other more wealthier PoCs to host poor PoCs in their homes and or businesses

    So the steinbergs can host the somalis, the kumars, the Khans and the kagans take care of Jose, Achmed and his cousin sis, Mr. Chang helps Tyrone set up a laundry business while mr. singh can tend to the Cameroonians. All will be well in this rainbow land of (powdered) milk and (rotten) honey

    At the end of the day, it is futile and pointless to blame the immigrants themselves. It is our leaders in the imperial capital and their sponsors in biz houses across the country that deserve the blame. They deliberately created this tinderbox and have made arrangements to transport themselves and their near and dear ones once the civil-natio war starts

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  2. At the end of the day, it is futile and pointless to blame the immigrants themselves. It is our leaders in the imperial capital and their sponsors in biz houses across the country that deserve the blame.

    And the voters who put their benefits above everything else. That’s what did it in ’64, and it’s what’s doing it now.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  3. The Z Blog says: • Website

    It’s why whites have the same suicide rate as Indians. We’re both conquered people.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  4. You (or someone on VDare) have probably done this before, A.E., but I’d like to see a comparable map/graph with the percent population increase in each state that is due to immigration. I guess there could be 2 of them. One, as with a bar graph I just saw again yesterday on VDare, but broken out by states) on (number of residents born out of the US/total residents) and another could include children in families where both parents were born outside the US.

    I would guess those dark brown states in the Midwest and Rust Belt are that color not due to any big increase in black people and legal Hispanic residents, but immigration of the legal and illegal kind. California, well, as the Gatlin Brothers said, California’s a brand new game. (They didn’t mean it the way I do, of course – that was 1970-something!)

  5. 216 says:

    Contrarianposting of the day:

    Actually a good idea…for us.

    Nothing would reunite and give purpose to the disparate Dissident movements like a coordinated attack by the Shapiro WokeCons. Could this ever “wash the stain” to get moderates voting GOP again? Fat chance. But recall that it was David Cameron that presaged the rise of UKIP.

    Need to find a way of pressuring Lowry to give up his editorship to one of those resentful South Asians employed at National Review brought to you by Google.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  6. white women are truly our misfortune

    • Replies: @Rosie
  7. Hail to the Victors! Go Brown! The HBD Mitten is always top ranked. We’ve got the most negrofied major city in America, have had the worst race riots, the most white flight, greatest depopulation of any city, highest murder rates, and surpassed Mississippi for worst economy in the nation just before the Great “Recession.” Where else can you find 15,000 untested rape kits? Huh? The rest of you are slackers.

    I’m proud to be a Michicrapster and a native Detrioter!

    I may go out and lease a Government Motors shitbox to celebrate..

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  8. @Achmed E. Newman

    I would guess those dark brown states in the Midwest and Rust Belt are that color not due to any big increase in black people and legal Hispanic residents, but immigration of the legal and illegal kind.

    I’d bet big money (yours since I’m broke) that in the HBD Mitten it’s legal immigrants. I don’t think our negro numbers have increased (how could they?) and we’re nowhere near as inundated with illegals as most other states. But you can’t spit on the sidewalk without hitting a Hinpooh, Buttist, or Camel Herder. And sadly, that actually makes this state better than many. The leaded water increased the negro flight from Flint and some downtown redevelopment has pushed the negroes further from the city core along with Camel Herder growth in Dearbornistan and Hamtramckistan plus our small Mestizo outpost in Corktown – hell, Detriot might not be able to put on a good riot anymore..

  9. @Stan d Mute

    … hell, Detriot might not be able to put on a good riot anymore…

    LOL!

  10. Svigor says:
    @216

    Jew retweets Jew on White deplorability, “need” for Jewish Agenda, news @ 11.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  11. 216 says:

    To what extent is details-ignoring Trump conflating H-1B with H-2B?

    It would surprise me that a real estate business would be bringing in someone on H-1B, while it is already public knowledge that his properties use H-2B (tone deaf Don Jr/Eric).

    H-1B already works as a “path to citizenship”, indeed one of the criticism is that the visa holders return to India after being “trained” in the US, instead of settling here and giving us more Jayapals, Haleys and Baharas.

    The prospective change presumably means making H-1B citizenship eligible after five years, rather than five years to a green card, and then five more years to citizenship. That’s a disaster.

    What we need is H-1Boer

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  12. Rosie says:
    @anonymous003

    white women are truly our misfortune

    I wonder. How many children would White women have to have for you to say we are not your “misfortune.”

    In Europe anti-Whites say, “The birthrate is below replacement. We need immigrants!”

    In Utah, anti-Whites say, “The population isn’t growing fast enough. We need immigrants!

    • Replies: @jbwilson24
  13. @LostHopeless

    We ultimately deserve the blame. We are being conquered by people who could never manage to do so if we simply possessed the will to resist.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Svigor
  14. @The Z Blog

    We’re devoid of purpose and showered with drugs, porn, and degenerate pop culture, living on virtual reservations as invaders pour in promising us they are our friends who mean us no harm. Sounds familiar indeed.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  15. @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m not sure I have the requisite data for that beyond tracking the foreign-born population by year. Based on that, though, you’re probably right.

  16. @Stan d Mute

    So the cheap land purchases aren’t going to lead to revitalization and gentrification? The key is always more growth, growth, growth, though!

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  17. @216

    One good aspect of the H-1B racket is that it at least puts some pressure on college-educated whites. They don’t compete with H-2B/illegal aliens at all, for anything. But they–and their kids–do compete with Sanjay.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @ZOGged
  18. Hail says: • Website

    The Imperial Capital is the only ‘state’ in the country that has, since 1970, lost non-whites and gained whites, in both absolute numbers and in percentage-terms.

    This comparison is, of course, “apples and oranges” and I think gets something wrong that bears some explanation/correction and other thoughts (apologies for the length):

    For one thing, the District of Columbia is a rather small jurisdiction (land area: 61 sq. mi.) whose boundaries were fixed 230 years ago but which now sits in the middle of a huge, 6-million-person metropolitan area of thousands of square miles. Washington DC’s population has long been only around 10% of the metro area’s total population, which has many other quasi-urban centers in nearby parts of Virginia and Maryland.

    In other words, the District alone is not a statistically meaningful unit to measure, more analogous to a single neighborhood in a town, a focus on which can obscure town-wide patterns.

    I think this is the key reason people took to using the phrase “The Beltway” in the late 20th century, that is, because so many of the important people to whom they are referring did not actually live in Washington DC, but rather in nearby, better areas in Virginia and Maryland, within or at least near the circular highway loop (“Beltway”) that surrounded DC on all sides.

    I mention these things because the actual racial-demographic situation in “Washington DC,” in any meaningful sense, is almost California-level bad, and definitely much worse than it was in 1970. There is a lot of money around, and where there is money (and gays), ‘gentrification’ is bound to follow in spots (traded for decline elsewhere, as the ebbing and flowing of the tides), but the racial situation is actually quite bad.

    There is another, more specific and even more serious problem with using 1970 as a snapshot-comparison year: It was around the early part of the worst-ever era for the District since its founding — the descent into African crime, African dysfunction, and failure. (If not for being the seat of the federal apparatus, it may have been ‘Detroited’ and never recovered.)

    In April 1968, Black riots had gutted much of the city in a weeklong frenzy of arson and destruction led at first by the Black Panther Stokley Carmichael and a gang of his followers. They marched down a particular street in rowdy protest, and soon some of their number took to violence, which incited other Blacks in other neighborhoods, Soon there were city-wide war-like conditions. The National Guard was under orders not to shoot. There were several ‘Reginald Denny’ incidents (Black-on-White murders), which, back then in the era of more limited media access and in the confusion, were not much reported and today long forgotten.

    The 1968 riot caused a surge in White out-migration and a cratering of the White population. The riots were a coup de grace for most neighborhoods but outmigration of Whites was already ongoing in the 1960s.

    Young Pat Buchanan’s relatively self-confident White Washington had peaked in the 1950s, at which time it had a decent-sized White majority and a far-higher total population than DC proper has had at any time since. So 1970 turns out to be a highly anomalous time, as do the next few decades, and any comparison using 1970 as a reference point is subject to a kind of built-in error.

    As a sidebar: Why did Whites lose control of Washington DC proper? I have long believed that the White ‘loss’ of Washington in the 1950s and 1960s is what turned lifelong Washingtonian Pat Buchanan [b.1938] into an Ethnonationalist (to the extent that he is one). If I am right, the “Who Lost Washington” question is worth a further thought:

    [MORE]

    I don’t necessarily have any novel insights into why Blacks were able to take over so totally, but I can say that Pat witnessed his native city go from “confident White majority with some Black neighborhoods” in his boyhood and adolescence, to “Black-supermajority where Whites dared not tread by night and didn’t much care to go by day” by the time he was in his 30s. I have never really heard this commented upon regarding Buchanan. He saw it all happen, to his hometown, and it seems like that experience and sense of loss must inform his worldview.

    When Blacks started coming up from the South in the middle decades of the 20th century, they were welcomed, as Washington had long had some Black areas; but as any HBDer could guess, absent segregation or some other mechanism to limit Black encroachment (today, gentrification), with numbers soaring, the end was bound to come sooner or later. The shock of the 1968 riots — many gutted buildings are said to have remained, abandoned by their owners, into the 1980s — could not exactly be predicted, but that migrant Blacks would push out Whites who had plenty of space to flee to, could be predicted.

    A typical story, but a bizarre one being that it happened in an era when this was the national capital of the world’s globally-self-confident, towering superpower (mid-20th century). National capitals are, in theory and in practice, a magnet for talent, and so the depths to which Washington fell were probably puzzling to many foreign observers. The talent was still there, but little of it was in the District proper with the exception of perhaps 9 AM to 5 PM weekdays excluding holidays.

    The Black-dominated Washington of the 1970s and onward (to some weak extent, still to the present) sank to depths of patheticness that are hard even to imagine (the crack-addict mayor; the public schools devoid of any White children at all — at one point I believe the public schools stood at literally 1% White, practically a rounding error; the rise of crime to frightening levels that earned the city the dubious distinction of The Murder Capital of America). Pat Buchanan will have watched all this and by the time he was on the path to the Nixon White House will have realized, from bitter personal experience, that demographics is destiny, and (crucially) that Whites can indeed ‘lose’ if not advocated for.

    Most Americans of Pat’s generation and the next were happily oblivious and lived their entire lives sure that America would always be ‘White’ no matter how many Central Americans, Chinese, and Bangladeshis (etc.) were crammed in; a White invincibility myth that remains to an extent with us today as well, and which is no friend of ours. But Pat knew better, from his own experience, unlike other pundits who grow up in untouched, all-White environments somewhere and wander into a big Blue city.

    _________________________

    By the 2010s, the pattern in the Washington DC metropolitan area (the valid unit of measure) came to resemble something like Paris’ white core and nonwhite ‘suburbs.’

    So, yes, certainly 1970 vs. 2020 is a rather “invalid” comparison to make for Washington DC proper, with urbanized and dense-suburbanized growth in all directions, ignoring the boundaries set in 1790 and with the riots and all the rest. The meaningful comparison would be the Washington DC metropolitan area of 1970 vs. 2020: The Washington DC metro area stood at 70%+ White in 1970 and is set to hit 40% White at some point in the early 2020s, with the District proper’s apparent ‘White rise’ of late really kind of a measuring error, attributable to geography, to starting from such a historic-low by quirk of history, and to the drift of neighborhoods/prices over time (“gentrification”), and not indicative of a wider racial-demographic trend.

    There is lots of money in the area, but White-dominated it is not (except in spots), Whiter it is not getting. At the micro level, yes White elites may be in expensive, White-oriented neighborhoods, but the general areas they tend to be in (large, ‘blue’ metropolitan areas like the Washington DC area) are in pretty bad racial-demographic shape, by now are likely all <50% White and falling. These kinds of White and post-White elites have psychologically transitioned to a Latin American multiculturalist model: Immigrants as a servant class, and restaurateurs from which White elite can regularly sample the many cuisines of the world (Tyler Cowen) and pat themselves on the back over how worldly they are and how much they love immigrants.

    Various parts of the Washington DC metropolitan area have also long been beachheads for various sorts of nonwhite immigrant groups, too many to bother to name.

    To take a few examples of men raised in the area: Major Hassan, the Muslim mass killer of Americans at Fort Hood. Mestizo George Zimmerman (South American mother), for much of his upbringing was resident in the area. The Korean who killed all those students at Virginia Tech in 2007 likewise was raised in Northern Virginia (the demographic weight of post-1970s-immigrant-stock in Northern Virginia being what has pushed Virginia 'blue' in statewide races). Some of the 9/11 hijackers I believe also swam as fishes in water within the immigrant communities of the Washington DC metro area.

  19. Trevor H. says:
    @Svigor

    Just look at them. The Democrats rid themselves of Racism and fell headlong into Anti-Semitism.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  20. Trevor H. says:
    @Hail

    Didn’t read that entire screed, but searched it for any mention of Congress passing Home Rule legislation. Didn’t see any acknowledgment.

  21. @Audacious Epigone

    I was actually going to comment on this in reply to @rosie – violating my own rule to never again engage with her!

    We’ve been conditioned to believe that the only form of growth is population growth. Nothing else matters. More people = more money. And it is complete utter bullshit. Gone is the conception of quality before quantity. Better to own a closet full of shitty Pakistani sewn crap than a few impeccably made garments of the finest materials. Our entire culture is now rooted in cheap disposable garbage. All in the name of a growth that leaves us poorer and unhappier than our forebears ever dreamed possible.

    White women don’t need more kids. We don’t need more white people (especially the sort of idiots we seem to breed nowadays). We need to value the kind of growth that matters. Technology has enabled us to have a quality of life unimaginable, to virtually obliviate poverty and suffering, for our 1 kid each to have a standard of living impossible to even Kings and Emporers in the past, but instead we insist that what counts is more wage slaves and tax cattle. More people needed? Half our population doesn’t work, does nothing productive at all. And we need more? It’s easy to say it’s the Jews! Those money grubbers, it’s all their fault. Too easy. It’s not the Jews, it’s US as you wrote in another comment much more succinctly than I am now.

    Something is grossly wrong with us. And if we don’t fix it, it’s game over.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Audacious Epigone
  22. @Audacious Epigone

    Exactly. It finally makes the elitist knobs feel what they’ve been imposing on the working class for decades. I see the technomorons whining about Hinpooh code monkeys and can only laugh at the retard Aspies. Fuck them. Enjoy reaping what you’ve sown you bastards.

  23. Rosie says:
    @Stan d Mute

    I was actually going to comment on this in reply to @rosie – violating my own rule to never again engage with her!

    Short of throwing fights with MGtards and other assorted misogynists, I’m open to any suggestions as to how I can be more agreeable, from you or anyone else.

  24. @Reg Cæsar

    “And the voters who put their benefits above everything else. That’s what did it in ’64, and it’s what’s doing it now.”

    The voters were never really asked.

    Back in ’64 they were lied to, as they are now. The ability to disseminate the true implications via the web is what’s leading to informed resistance.

  25. @Hail

    I have never really heard this commented upon regarding Buchanan. He saw it all happen, to his hometown, and it seems like that experience and sense of loss must inform his worldview.

    The same thing happened with my homeboy Joe Sobran and Detriot. I’ve never seen anyone draw the obvious conclusions regarding him either. My dad was a silent generation guy and I once asked if he could ever have dreamed the results today, if he could even recognize the nation he knew, he could not. And from my childhood in the 1970’s until today, the same is true.

    The silent generation, through their silence, failed. Their failure gave us the boomers. The boomers gave us the millennials. If the adults fail to assert control, the end game is Lord of the Flies. That’s where we are today.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  26. @Stan d Mute

    ” I don’t think our negro numbers have increased (how could they?) ”

    Margaret Sanger doesn’t get nearly the credit she’s due. In Sodom upon Hudson, Black abortions outnumber live births.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565169/Abortions-outnumber-live-births-NYCs-black-community.html

    “In a letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble Sanger stated, “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. And the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”

    http://www.nationalblackprolifeunion.com/Margaret-Sanger-and-The-Negro-Project.html

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  27. @Bill Jones

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but the black population in the United States has never stopped trending upward, correct? Meaning, there are more blacks in the US now than ever before.

    While the % of blacks in the US has remained mostly the same, around 13%, it has kept up with the overall population increase. It is the white population that continues to decrease, not the black.

    Again, willing to be shown otherwise.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @Stealth
  28. Martin O’Malley was a Swamp City DC area politician who ran for president, until he said something about all lives mattering or something.

    Blacks — H-1B visa scam — Mass Immigration — Rosie the String Cheese Incident song with Jerry Harrison — I’ll add in retail politics.

    Here I am asking Martin O’Malley about wage-reducing mass immigration and the H-1B visa scam from 2015:

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  29. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Yep, that’s your genocide of the American negro – from 400,000 imported to 43,000,000 today.

    About as successful as the nazi genocide of the Jews..

  30. @Rosie

    “How many children would White women have to have for you to say we are not your “misfortune.””

    2.1 would be a start.

    With Indians and Pakis pumping out 5, I think it is a rather big disadvantage for white women to be barely capable of putting out 1.6.

    Plus voting for parties that support mass immigration is suicidal.

    • Replies: @216
  31. Rosie says:

    2.1 would be a start.

    I notice you don’t actually answer the question here. No one ever does.

    With Indians and Pakis pumping out 5, I think it is a rather big disadvantage for white women to be barely capable of putting out 1.6.

    There shouldn’t be any Indians and Pakis in White countries.

    I also notice that you blame low birth rates on women. Why do you do this? Where is your evidence that men desire significantly more children than women, and would be open to having more if women were willing? (There isn’t any.)

    You do realize that whether to have children, how many and when is normally a decision that couples make together, do you not?

    Plus voting for parties that support mass immigration is suicidal.

    The problem is that all the parties support mass immigration. The most you can say is that women are less likely to vote for parties viewed as “extreme” than men, even though they don’t like immigration any more than men do. That hardly supports the claim that White women, rather than Jews, are your “misfortune.”

    Links upon request.

    • Replies: @216
    , @Kratoklastes
  32. 216 says:
    @jbwilson24

    India is not a high-fertility country. Wealth is one limiting effect on fertility, density is another. The non-desert parts of India are among the most densely populated areas on the planet.

    Pakistan has a TFR of 3, presumably higher in the lawless areas of the map, and lower in the densly populated metros.

    Not sure about the specific fertility rates of South Asians in the US or the UK. I do recall that Pakistanis are the least exogamous.

    One advantage that Indians have over whites is the lower divorce rate. A sizeable number of births in the West are made to divorced-and-remarried parents. That is not conductive to social cohesion. I’m not sure if a “divorce and fertility” casual study has been done, but I will look for examples and post what I find here.

  33. 216 says:
    @Rosie

    I also notice that you blame low birth rates on women. Why do you do this? Where is your evidence that men desire significantly more children than women, and would be open to having more if women were willing? (There isn’t any.)
    You do realize that whether to have children, how many and when is normally a decision that couples make together, do you not?

    Western modernity has created a society where women can “make their own decisions”, very few white GenX, Millennial and soon Zeds, were raised in anything resembling patriarchial Islamic or Asian socities. Even Mormonism is softer than it used to be. There aren’t many social structures that shame women into having kids, other than older female relatives that desire grandchildren.

    The age of marriage is something mostly reliant on female choice. A woman that marries at 23 will probably have at least 1-2 more children than a woman that marries at 27. A bicoastal over-credentialed white woman (our SES peer) marries even later than that, and is often two-kids or bust via fertility treatment. It is true that it isn’t women’s fault that the economy is not structured to ensure responsible family formation at younger ages, but we don’t really shame white women into following the low-age gap Western European Marraige Pattern (a major source of historical strength). There’s nothing stopping them from marrying an older man, the few peers I have that have kids mostly are married to a man 5-7 years older.

    It’s not a secret that single-white women are the bedrock of Dem electoral power, and of the nasty Greens in Northern European countries. And we certainly remember how it was mostly women that joyously greeted the refugee mob as it rampaged through Europe four years ago.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  34. Rosie says:
    @216

    Western modernity has created a society where women can “make their own decisions”,

    One decision we certainly cannot make alone is the decision of how many children to have.

    The age of marriage is something mostly reliant on female choice.

    Evidence?

    A woman that marries at 23 will probably have at least 1-2 more children than a woman that marries at 27.

    There’s no reason at all to believe this is so, given the widespread availability of birth control to delay childbearing and fertility treatments to increase the birth rate among women in their thirties.

    A bicoastal over-credentialed white woman (our SES peer) marries even later than that, and is often two-kids or bust via fertility treatment.

    You can blame the student loan racket for that.

    but we don’t really shame white women into following the low-age gap Western European Marraige Pattern (a major source of historical strength).

    I also favor low-age gap marriage, but what evidence is there to suggest that young men actually want to get married, and/or are willing to marry someone who is “in their league,” despite the availability of porn?

    It’s not a secret that single-white women are the bedrock of Dem electoral power, and of the nasty Greens in Northern European countries.

    Non-college White women abandoned the Dems as soon as an immigration restrictionist alternative was available to them. Only college White women were turned off by Trump, and it’s no wonder given the guilt propaganda they were subjected to. It’s not White womens’ fault Jews control the media and the academy.

    And we certainly remember how it was mostly women that joyously greeted the refugee mob as it rampaged through Europe four years ago.

    You only saw the images that the Jewish media wanted you to see. Women who are skeptical of mass immigration don’t get their hands on the megaphone.

    • Replies: @216
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  35. 216 says:
    @Rosie

    One decision we certainly cannot make alone is the decision of how many children to have.

    A woman can use donor sperm, and while facing some backlash, isn’t going to face an honor killing. I’ve known several working-class men that claimed to have been “pregnancy trapped” by women that lied about being on contraception.

    I also favor low-age gap marriage, but what evidence is there to suggest that young men actually want to get married, and/or are willing to marry someone who is “in their league,” despite the availability of porn?

    I don’t think male reluctance to marry is because of porn. It has more to do with women occupying higher-status positions than they did in previous generational cohorts. Working-class men also have reduced earning power thanks to globalization. Women have a revealed preference for higher-status mates, plumbers might be earning a decent living, but aren’t as likely to be married to a professional-class woman.

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2018/09/04/2017-never-married-data/

    The Dalrock blog has been covering this issue for a long time, and better than I ever could.

    You only saw the images that the Jewish media wanted you to see. Women who are skeptical of mass immigration don’t get their hands on the megaphone.

    That’s a juvenile argument, and a terrible excuse. White women have agency, and the revealed preference is for feminism rather than traditionalism via icky beta males.

    When is the last time you slut-shamed a woman?

    • Replies: @Rosie
  36. @Rosie

    I’m sorry to have to chime in, Rosie, but this is one of the more purposefully-clueless comments of yours, on your usual topic, that I’ve ever read:

    One decision we certainly cannot make alone is the decision of how many children to have.

    What?? Are we talking about the 5 % too ugly/fat for any man to want to hit? Of course, a woman can have a child any time she wants and either get the willing Dad to support him, rope in someone else to do it, or just go with the State to be the provider.

    There’s no reason at all to believe this [ 216’s point] is so, given the widespread availability of birth control to delay childbearing and fertility treatments to increase the birth rate among women in their thirties.

    Everything about having a baby after the early ’30’s is harder – conceiving, carrying one to term, and delivery. You have a bunch of kids, so I don’t believe you could not know this!

    … what evidence is there to suggest that young men actually want to get married, and/or are willing to marry someone who is “in their league,” despite the availability of porn?

    Be nice for a change (not you personally), trust your Granny’s advice and your husband’s wishes over the feminist indoctrination, and keep your body in shape to where the curves still show up. It ain’t rocket surgery.

    Only college White women were turned off by Trump, and it’s no wonder given the guilt propaganda they were subjected to. It’s not White womens’ fault Jews control the media and the academy.

    Right, it’s not their fault at all – they have no independent-thinking ability. I am glad, then, as you should agree with me and hopefully-Presidential-hopeful Ann Coulter that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. I hope we can count on your support in that regard.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  37. Rosie says:
    @216

    I’ve known several working-class men that claimed to have been “pregnancy trapped” by women that lied about being on contraception.

    That’s just my point. If you blame women for low birth rates, it would seem that you are suggesting that women should take it upon themselves to get pregnant without their mate’s knowledge or consent.

    What precisely do you want women to do?

    I don’t think male reluctance to marry is because of porn. It has more to do with women occupying higher-status positions than they did in previous generational cohorts.

    So you say.

    Working-class men also have reduced earning power thanks to globalization.

    “Globalization” is, if course, a euphemism for men betraying their own kind for cheap labor, going all the way back to the African slave trade. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/02/billionaire-kochs-plot-daca-amnesty-vow-not-to-support-trump-in-2020/

    Greedy White men are our misfortune.

    That’s a juvenile argument, and a terrible excuse.

    Unresponsive nonsense. If I had a billionaire funding me, I could turn White women out in droves to protest mass immigration.

    Come to think of it, how many White male billionaires are there? Hundreds if I’m not mistaken. Yet not a single one cares enough about his race to fund the dissident Right.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Billionaires

    White women have agency, and the revealed preference is for feminism rather than traditionalism via icky beta males.

    Your say-so is not evidence.

    https://www.businessnewsdaily.com/2372-man-shortage-men-drives-women-careers.html

    When is the last time you slut-shamed a woman?

    When was the last time you womanizer-shamed a man?

    • Replies: @216
    , @Glt
  38. Rosie says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Right, it’s not their fault at all – they have no independent-thinking ability. I am glad, then, as you should agree with me and hopefully-Presidential-hopeful Ann Coulter that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. I hope we can count on your support in that regard.

    Absolutely not. That’s absurd. The fact that the Dems still couldn’t get a bare majority of White women to vote for them, despite having the entirety of the mainstream media on their side and outspending Trump by 2:1, shows that White women have tremendous independent-thinking ability.

    Now, you can’t stop women voting until you get rid of the hostile Jewish elite, at which point you will no longer need to stop women voting. So you might as well stfu about it so as not to alienate half the White race.

    What?? Are we talking about the 5 % too ugly/fat for any man to want to hit? Of course, a woman can have a child any time she wants and either get the willing Dad to support him, rope in someone else to do it, or just go with the State to be the provider.

    Are you saying White women should do that? I’m certain if we did, that would just be cause for yet more woman-hatred around these parts.

    Everything about having a baby after the early ’30’s is harder – conceiving, carrying one to term, and delivery. You have a bunch of kids, so I don’t believe you could not know this!

    How does it follow from this that a woman who marries at 23 will have more kids than a woman who marries at 27? Getting married at 27 leaves plenty of time to have the two or three kids women say they want. If they got married earlier, they would still stop (snip, snip) after reaching their ideal family size. I know you’re not an idiot, so I don’t believe you don’t understand this.

    Be nice for a change (not you personally), trust your Granny’s advice and your husband’s wishes over the feminist indoctrination, and keep your body in shape to where the curves still show up. It ain’t rocket surgery.

    Actually, surgery is exactly what is required. Curves never come back after the third child without it, no matter how much weight you lose.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  39. Married white women do pretty well, but not as well as men (still that lingering Socialism, big-Daddy government thing) in voting. The problem is that the single ones cancel out a lot of single guys that are very libertarian and small-government loving. In the marriages, it’s a wash anyway, so let the guy vote (he probably should have to own some land). You are contradicting yourself. Is it the Jewish elite affecting the independent-thinking women’s vote? Whaaa?

    What we do need to get rid of is the extreme 50-year experiment in Socialism. I will admit that the Jewish elite, and most elites, pushed this stuff hard. Who fought back? How many women’s votes did Barry Goldwater get? That would have been the last chance to really nip it in the bud.

    (sorry I’m skipping some blockquotes, as it’s harder on this device) White women already do that (relying on other tax-payers as their providers). They just don’t do it as much as the blacks and hispanics.

    On the child-bearing, you just got done mentioning the special medical procedures and all that. That’s what I was comparing to, mid-30 year-olds. It follows completely that younger is better, as not too many just churn out a baby every 2 years anymore (though I really think that’s the best for the kids). Sure 27 is OK, but 23 is better. Younger means more options – that goes for everyone.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @216
  40. 216 says:
    @Rosie

    When was the last time you womanizer-shamed a man?

    Men can’t really be shamed in this fashion. They are almost impervious to it. There’s an old manosphere page called “feminist shaming techniques”, and why they don’t work.

    https://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/the-catalog-of-anti-male-shaming-tactics/

    What precisely do you want women to do?

    That’s not really my call, as I’m not a woman, and am interested in speaking to men. I am waiting for female traditionalists to emerge that have a female audience, rather than those like Lauren Southern that exploit beta male stupidity while living a Gloria Steinem lifestyle.

    So, I dunno, perhaps Ivanka could preach what she practices. She’s a religiously observant part-time/SAHM that submits to her beta male husband.

    Come to think of it, how many White male billionaires are there? Hundreds if I’m not mistaken. Yet not a single one cares enough about his race to fund the dissident Right.

    Said hypothetical person would not be a billionaire much longer. Trump has already lost considerable wealth since becoming president.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Blocher

    • Replies: @Rosie
  41. Rosie says:
    @216

    Said hypothetical person would not be a billionaire much longer. Trump has already lost considerable wealth since becoming president.

    Aw the poor dears can’t scrape together a few bucks to fund a few full-time White advocates.

    Oh well, at a minimum, they could stop using their wealth to subvert their own people, but then, they’re greedy traitors, so that’s just how they roll.

    She’s a religiously observant part-time/SAHM that submits to her beta male husband.

    Ah yes. That’s what this is really all about: a demand that women submit.

    • Replies: @216
  42. 216 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    What we do need to get rid of is the extreme 50-year experiment in Socialism. I will admit that the Jewish elite, and most elites, pushed this stuff hard. Who fought back? How many women’s votes did Barry Goldwater get?

    A strange time today, I’m acting as a Feryl proxy.

    The Jewish elite backed both socialism, and lolbertarianism/neoliberalism. Goldwater, as most of us probably know, was half-Jewish.

    There has been a major trend away from state-ownership of industries in the last 50 years. The US in particular has always been the most hostile, we even have privately held utilities and railroads. The problem has been neoliberalism, where regulations have been progressively dismantled, jobs offshored, immigrants imported, and the economy has concentrated into FIRE.

    I don’t see even the Ocasios of the world demanding that FedGov should seize control of major industries, or start new state-owned industries like a drug company.

    Would it really kill us if Twitter/Facebook/Apple/Amazon/Google were outright nationalized? We could force the decentralization of the industry, exile the founders to NZ, eliminate anti-conservative bias, improve national security by relocating production to the US. We don’t even need to have FedGov actively manage them, just expropriate the stock of Jobs, Zuck, Brin, Page, Bezos, Dorsey, etc. The remaining minority shares won’t be touched, and will still trade on the markets. The President will appoint the Board of Directors, and the Treasury will reap the profits off decades of Defense Department R&D.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  43. Rosie says:

    Married white women do pretty well, but not as well as men (still that lingering Socialism, big-Daddy government thing) in voting. The problem is that the single ones cancel out a lot of single guys that are very libertarian and small-government loving.

    That’s precisely why we need women voters: a little socialist yin to balance out that libertarian yang. Extreme wealth concentration will tear a society apart.

    And then there’s the fact that men have a nasty habit of voting themselves into catastrophic wars that go on and on and exhaust the blood and treasure of the nation.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  44. Rosie says:
    @216

    Would it really kill us if Twitter/Facebook/Apple/Amazon/Google were outright nationalized? We could force the decentralization of the industry, exile the founders to NZ, eliminate anti-conservative bias, improve national security by relocating production to the US. We don’t even need to have FedGov actively manage them, just expropriate the stock of Jobs, Zuck, Brin, Page, Bezos, Dorsey, etc. The remaining minority shares won’t be touched, and will still trade on the markets. The Presidnet will appoint the Board of Directors, and the Treasury will reap the profits off decades of Defense Department R&D.

    Something we can agree on.

  45. 216 says:
    @Rosie

    Ah yes. That’s what this is really all about: a demand that women submit.

    Is there anything about Jared that screams “alpha male”? Perhaps his height, but he was only born into wealth and has never demonstrated any business aptitude.

    Ivanka might publicly proclaim feminism, but she’s always feminine, and no one has ever dug anything up that suggests that she’s domineering over Jared in private. Nor is Chabad renowned for its feminist sentiment.

  46. @216

    I really don’t want to repeat a bunch of writing that I did under the recent (VDare’s) “Washington Watcher’s column, so I’ll refer you to my two comments there. (There are only 9 comments there, so far, so you can find mine.)

    I know some, but I doubt many Jews supported Barry Goldwater. I guess I may look it up. What state-owned industries are you talking about from 50 years back? Are you saying this country is not 10x the police state that it was then, and the Feral Gov’t isn’t a much bigger burden and control-freak? America was the freest country the world had ever seen, right on up past 50 years ago!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @216
  47. @Rosie

    We may have different definitions of Libertarianism and Socialism then. I just wrote under J. Derbyshire’s post, that it’s amazing to me that the conservatives of the alt-right think they can get their way under a big government. They complain about population-replacement, but then call people Libertards who push for lower taxes, as these same alt-right morons pay big property taxes that go to support illegal aliens and “refugees” in the high schools at $18,000 per year per pop! Then they up and tell you they can’t afford to have children of their own yet, cause, you know, all the taxes and shit.

    Madness! [/Medical officer from The Bridge on the River Kwai]

    • Replies: @216
  48. @Achmed E. Newman

    Hey, I thought I put the link in, and even tested it. Let me try again: Washington Watcher’s post.

    (Worked upon testing in PREVIEW mode.)

    That’s some weirdness – it didn’t become a link once I mashed PUBLISH.

    Here’s one just to unz itself: Unz. OK, all better now, and even the WW link is good. I have no idea what happened.

  49. 216 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    When speaking of “state-owned industries” I was speaking not just of the US, but of the entire First World. Almost no Western country has a nationalized steel industry anymore, few have state-owned phone companies, a bit more have state-owned power companies. The EU has been trying to force privatization of railroads (open access, they call it) and of airports. The US has never had a state-owned “flag carrier” airline, but this was common until the end of the Cold War in Europe.

    We effectively nationalized the banks in 2008, but this was an indirect subsidy at the cost of a swollen debt load. The banks were then “privatized” in the first Obama term, but the losses kept on the Fed Reserve balance sheet. IMO, the banks should not have been released until the QE liability was paid off (it still hasn’t been, and may not for decades).

    The police state is thanks to the Civil Rights revolution, and the drug trade kickstarted by CIA meddling in the Golden Triangle and Latin America. It doesn’t have much to do with “Socialism”.

    I’m not sure I understand your point about property taxes in those other posts. In Ohio, propery taxes aren’t redistributed. The state redistributes Ed spending by virtue of the income and sales taxes. Most state constitutions have some ambiguous language that was interpreted to mean that “every public school student gets an equal amount of dollars”. Good luck ditching that in the post Brown v. Board era. Shall we recall the charter school fiascos? Junking Plyler v Doe
    in theory only requires one judge to switch.

  50. 216 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “Starve the beast” doesn’t work, the .gov just writes up more debt.

    Nothing would get rid of illegals like massive fines for hiring, and the jailing of the executive responsible.

    E-Verify is more important than the wall. Agricultural workers are still largely exempt from many federal labor laws, a Depression-era legacy. They only got overtime in California just last year. Illegals are generally not able to sue their employers for wage theft.

    The Third World blames the US wars for the refugee problem, we either resettle them here or pay the costs to house them over there. Germany refused when Erdogan demanded more payment, now they have an occupying army of Merkeljugend. The honest thing for the US, EU and Israel to do is to pay the Syrians to go back. Israel should (but never will) pay reparations to Lebanon, which has gone above and beyond the call for housing refugees.

    We are going to pay, and pay a lot more. Anyone that thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

  51. ZOGged says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    Please check H1B facts and tell me if this visa is creating an upward or downward pressure on our jobs. Additionally, it is BECAUSE of visas like these the white native US population is loathe to go into tech. I work in the industry and as far back as 2010, the Indians [dot] had almost complete control of the entire pipeline from talent sourcing to hiring to delivery. Almost all links in the chain is an Indian fellow. Highly ethnocentrics as they are, they not only discriminate against whitey, they harass and discriminate against their own if not of the right religion and/or caste/region/subregion.
    The whole thing has become so toxic and the game is so rigged against whitey, that unless you are of the caliber of say Brendan Gregg you don’t have much of a voice in US tech. Whereas lousy Indians are placed amongst other average ones so the “good enough” model can keep delivering barely working software. Most black box testers (the easiest job in the industry) in the field used to be average recent grads. Now they are the (barely computer literate) wives of the Indian managers so you know, they can buy that million dollar home in cupertino that much faster while our children default on their debts

    Go to any not for profit tech hackathons and more than half of them are whites. In the industry, that figure has to be less than 20 percent (give or take 5pc). So it isn’t that there is no drive or desire for tech. The incentive is missing and the Indians have gone whole hog on the US IT industry. Most of us are as afraid to speak out against India/Indians publicly like other americans are with other career destroying taboos like the holocau$t or “anti-semitism”. Indians have complete control of most of the tech sector in this country and is increasingly being operated as a racket, except the smaller tech startups (need to red pill them before they destroy that as well)

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  52. Svigor says:

    Jew retweets Jew on White deplorability, “need” for Jewish Agenda, news @ 11.

    • LOL: Audacious Epigone

    🙂

    AE, I saw your name in blogrolls for years, and never knew you were a )))fellow traveller(((. Glad to have you on board @ Unz.

    I hope you’ll forgive me my current lowbrow phase. I have been doing this since 2003. I am now very much in my “awaiting launch window” phase; basically, waiting for the Huwhite Race to catch the fuck up, as it were*. Hoping that happens before I’m too old to hold a rifle. I have pretty much said everything interesting I have to say (most of it archived here), and am now in full shitpoasting mode. I realize that makes me less interesting than I used to be. I am not as interested in being interesting as I used to be.

    Salud.

    *Muuuuuch more sanguine about that than I used to be. Another reason for my semi-retirement; I see the Guhreat Huwhite Awakening as inevitable, self-sustaining, now. )))Skynet((( has gone online.

  53. Svigor says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    No. That’s like blaming a little old lady for trusting the fraudster.

    It’s a level beyond having the will to resist; whites don’t even know there’s something to resist.

    Yet. The Great Awakening has started. Just as so many other Great Awakenings (AKA “pogroms,” “inquisitions,” “holocausts,” etc.) have started so many times before. The difference this time being, it’s going on Humanity’s Permanent Record. In the past, the cycle has always been that (((they))) wait for )))us((( to forget, then move in on us again. That cycle is over. This time will be the last. The nature of the game has changed, so the next time the we remove the Jews from our presence will be the last.

    This is a good thing. It’s time for the Jews to stand on their own. It’s time for us to be finally free of them. It will be good for both peoples, I think.

  54. Svigor says:

    Apropos of nothing, but I’ve been thinking about the “Faustian” nature of Western Man, lately.

    Steve Sailer has joked before, IIRC, about Jews not having agency.

    But the more I think about it, the more I think that may actually be the case, in the general sense. “To be or not to be” doesn’t seem to apply to Jews. Or Blacks, or non-whites in general.

    Only to Whites.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  55. @Hail

    It wasn’t my intention to put undue attention on DC bucking the trend, which is kind of funny but ultimately not that important.

    That said, DC is really affluent. It’s now less than half black, the median home price is half a million dollars, over half the population is college-educated, etc–and the surrounding VA/MD counties are even nicer. What city/MMA is more affluent and becoming Arctic faster? San Francisco, maybe?

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  56. @Stan d Mute

    Isn’t part of what is grossly wrong with us is that we have no confidence in ourselves? Failing to pay life forward by having children is the ultimate expression of that. It’s not sufficient, but it is necessary, at least replacement level.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @Corvinus
  57. Glt says:
    @Rosie

    Yet not a single one cares enough about his race to fund the dissident Right.

    I had some hope for that from Peter Thiel or Palmer Luckey but looks like that’s not to be.

  58. @Rosie

    From the GSS, sampling 1200 women who either had their first child at age 23 or age 27, mean number of total children (all races) is 2.47 and 2.20, respectively. This is obvious, I think.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  59. @ZOGged

    Surely downward. Does that not translate into restrictionist sentiment at all?

    • Replies: @ZOGged
  60. @Svigor

    I’m afraid that if the Jew is removed the defeated white gentile is still going to be a defeated white gentile.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    , @Svigor
  61. ZOGged says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    It very much does and a lot of otherwise pencil necked whites (like myself) got red pilled AFTER we had to bear such toxicity at our workplace, that too in (what is supposedly) “our own” country!

    I can confidently say Trump picked up a LOT of white tech worker votes because we know what “legal” high skilled immigration is all about. No matter how supposedly “skilled”, most non whites STILL harbor tribal sentiments BIGLY. The only people where this sentiment has supposedly gone into slumber is the anglo-saxons. I’m myself of Sicilian heritage (make of that what you will) but in tech today, most of the whites that are trying to challenge the powerful status quo that is arrayed against us are mostly swarthier whites like myself while those nordic types, the anglos and what have you seemed to have become resigned to their fate (or so I think) even though I’m trying my best to red pill them

    By the way, since you were discussing about organizing, you might want to take a look at this and this. This is a grass roots movement fighting against the organized takeover of the IT industry by the hindoos and the others. Though the people who write the prose on those websites are as red pilled as any, they try not to show that openly, lest this fledgling movement be nipped in the bud by the (((powers that be))) who have a vested interest to see whites reduced to serfdom in the land.

    Enjoy the sunday ahead, it’s getting late here so i’m off to bed

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  62. I’ll say this for Rosie: Give her a shovel and she can sure dig a hole as fast as any man.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @Rosie
  63. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    He’s already alienated half of the white race.

    I didn’t used to have any opinions of Jewish and Asian men, but the more I see white men becoming PUAs, MRAs, incels, “white nationalists” and Charlottesville nazis, the more I will consider marrying a Jewish or Asian man.

    So you guys keep talking about removing voting rights, basic education, and legal personhood from white women.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @Rosie
    , @216
  64. Corvinus says:
    @Svigor

    “It’s a level beyond having the will to resist; whites don’t even know there’s something to resist.”

    You are just projecting your own frustrations onto your fellow whites. The reality is that they generally do not agree with this notion that they are a “defeated people” who are waiting for an “impending collapse” and subsequent “civil war”. The question is IF this miracle happens, will you be on the front lines or in the back of the bus. The same goes for AE.

  65. @Svigor

    Steve Sailer has joked before, IIRC, about Jews not having agency.

    That may have been me in Sailer’s comment threads. I’ve been shouting about Jewish agency in their self-destruction schemes for years.

    Interesting to me is that ideas from Sailer and his commentariat have popped up in the mainstream. I noticed this insofar as ideas that were to my knowledge original to me, posted on Unz, later appearing elsewhere. If it’s happened with my very moderate intellect and even more modest contributions, how many times has it happened inclusive of my intellectual superiors in this venue?

    • Replies: @Svigor
  66. It’s visible minorities that are bothersome (some of them much more than others). For instance, I have nothing against this Peruvian Aussie girl who is 67% Native American.

    If most invaders looked & behaved like her, I guess Trump would not stand the chance with his wall. But they don’t …

    And add blacks, Muslims, dark Hindus, yellow invasion…no, thanks.

  67. @Audacious Epigone

    Yes and also no. My point was that our science and technology advancements have made larger families unnecessary to our survival and prosperity. One bright healthy kid can now do what it took ten such kids to do a century or two ago. So a declining birth rate is by no means a bad thing having abandoned our age of exploration and expansion. And even sub-replacement isn’t a calamity yet as we clearly don’t need the population level we currently have and have proven ourselves incapable of managing this level (eg public debts).

    Ideally I think a stable population should be our goal, but not one with 47% malingering on the backs of maybe 25% actually producing in the private sector.

  68. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Damn this platform! I just used my allocation of lolz and agrees on AE’s comment and then you make me LOL…

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  69. @Anonymous

    So you guys keep talking about removing voting rights, basic education, and legal personhood from white women.

    If you’re refusing to acknowledge the MASSIVE role your sex has played in our civilizational tragedy, I’ll have no sorrow whatsoever in seeing you join the other sub-species of Man and bequeath unto them the genes responsible for your abnegation of reality.

    Bye-bye toots.

  70. Rosie says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    From the GSS, sampling 1200 women who either had their first child at age 23 or age 27, mean number of total children (all races) is 2.47 and 2.20, respectively. This is obvious, I think.

    Right, but it stands to reason that, on average, people who started younger wanted more kids to begin with.

    Pressuring women to have kids in their early 20s would be a mistake. Indeed, women who have children early because of social pressures might wind up finding motherhood more burdensome and therefore having fewer children than they otherwise would have.

    All that said, of course I would agree that a first child at 23 is a great deal better than IVF twins at 40.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  71. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    Interestingly, Stan’s response to you doesn’t actually make a case for why or how women are disproportionately at fault for our civilizational tragedy, because there is no case. He just says you’re insane if you can’t see it! Classic gaslighting!

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  72. Rosie says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I’ll say this for Rosie: Give her a shovel and she can sure dig a hole as fast as any man.

    Care to elaborate?

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  73. 216 says:
    @Anonymous

    I think you’d be better off marrying a straw man.

  74. Corvinus says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    “Isn’t part of what is grossly wrong with us is that we have no confidence in ourselves?”

    The reality is that white Americans do have confidence in themselves, it is just not expressed in your preferred manner.

    “Failing to pay life forward by having children is the ultimate expression of that.”

    I would sat that failing to pay life forward by having children is the ultimate expression of self-sacrifice and commitment to the next generation. It is up to the person when they have children, who they have children with, and how many children they have in their brood.

    “It’s not sufficient, but it is necessary, at least replacement level.”

    It is not a requirement for a white person to have 2 or more children. Must “replacement level” even be on white people’s radar?

  75. @Rosie

    Look – you have some insightful things to say about many topics. On the the issue of the “battle of the sexes” or whatever you want to call it, you have a tendency to put blinders on. Smarter people than I have gone round and round with you for years here and you’re no closer to having your mind changed so there’s nothing I can elaborate on that will make a difference.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Rosie
  76. Rosie says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Smarter people than I have gone round and round with you for years here and you’re no closer to having your mind changed so there’s nothing I can elaborate on that will make a difference.

    True. There’s no help for it when the facts aren’t on your side.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  77. Iberiano says:

    A ‘Quadruple Minority’ Tackles Community Health

    https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2018-11-23/dr-alisahah-cole-of-atrium-health-a-quadruple-minority-tackling-community-health

    “…Dr. Alisahah Cole, chief community impact officer for Atrium Health, a North Carolina-based health care organization, quips that she’s a “quadruple minority,” a unicorn of sorts in the industry’s management levels.”

  78. Rosie says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    BTW Mike, I’ll add that I think the men of the dissident Right are in fact scapegoating women, and they are doing it for a number of reasons, but mostly because of the human tendency to glom onto an overarching theory of Life, the Universe, and Everything. You see this with Marxists (Capitalism!), Libertarians (the Gubmint!), and SJWs (Racism!).

    What makes dissident Right misogyny even worse is the powerlessness of the movement. I am convinced that most of you have already given up. You don’t think we can win, and therefore you don’t really care about the practical consequences of your rash, wildly-exaggerated, and ill-chosen statements about women. You just want to activate bro mode and bond in your subculture, the only thing you feel like you can actually control.

    Of course, I am therefore seen as an unwanted intruder spoiling your fun rather than a source of insight on how (not) to appeal to women, and actually make some sort of progress towards securing the existence of our people and a future for White children.

    • Replies: @216
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
  79. 216 says:
    @Rosie

    I don’t think a political constituency exists where ethnocentric white women are complaining about sexist men. “White feminism” is a slur coined by PeeOhCee. You might be the genuine article, put it looks like a party of one to me.

    Part of the reason that age of marriage is increasing is student debt, and progressive credentialism. We don’t really have much to say about that, other than telling people to avoid institutions of higher indoctrination. Perhaps that is a valid criticism, but this is a collection of political movements, it’s not a lifestyle forum.

    I distrust female involvement in political movements for the very reason you admit, that you are a subversive. My advice has always been that women should aim for a female audience, a movement that has a surplus of unmarried men is putty in the hands of any e-girl or tradthot that shows up.

    You’re telling men to eagerly buy damaged goods, and blaming them as the cause of feminsm. Even if you happen to be right, we aren’t going to listen to a female voice with the same attention that a male leader receives.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  80. Rosie says:

    You might be the genuine article, put it looks like a party of one to me.

    A self-fulfilling prophecy if ever I saw one.

    I distrust female involvement in political movements for the very reason you admit, that you are a subversive.

    I see you as the subversive, deliberately trying to prevent White men and women from working together to secure our future, as we have done in the past and can do again.

    https://psmag.com/social-justice/segregations-constant-gardeners

    My advice has always been that women should aim for a female audience,

    And say what to them? Hey come join this movement where you will be incessantly scapegoated and slandered! What would be the point of that?

    a movement that has a surplus of unmarried men is putty in the hands of any e-girl or tradthot that shows up.

    I’m a middle-aged mother of six who has never shown her face or asked for money, so what does any of that have to do with me?

    You’re telling men to eagerly buy damaged goods, and blaming them as the cause of feminism.

    (1) Human beings are not goods, and therefore cannot be damaged goods.
    (2) There is plenty of blame to go around for feminism. I am more than willing to leave it at that.

    Even if you happen to be right, we aren’t going to listen to a female voice with the same attention that a male leader receives.

    Of course, this makes no logical sense whatsoever.

    • Replies: @216
    , @Audacious Epigone
  81. Iberiano says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    LOL. I don’t remember when it was, but last year, Rosie responded to some post of mine about alimony with literally Alimony Cliche #152 or so (that had been disposed of and discredited up there with the “wage gap”). I stopped long ago arguing with Flat Earthers…reminds me of the female family member a couple years ago that brought up the whole “yes, but in cases where custody is actually disputed in court, men actually win 43 percent of the time” (or something like that). When you are literally dealing with someone that dumb–who so completely does not understand the system (namely that millions of men are stripped of sufficient $assets$ on the way to a hearing (CS, pendente lite, etc), as to meaningfully FIGHT for custody in the first place) and thus 90 percent of the time the fight is over before get there–you have to step back and see the Hamster. And then move on.

    At this point, unless you (as a female) have read Stephen Baskerville’s “TAKEN INTO CUSTODY”, watched every Karen Straughan video (she talks about the alimony cliches) and read all of Dr. Warren Farrell’s work, you’re basically like arguing with a 3rd grader about traffic laws. I have no time.

    Hamsters gonna Hamster.

  82. 216 says:
    @Rosie

    I’m a middle-aged mother of six who has never shown her face or asked for money, so what does any of that have to do with me?

    Perhaps more than you think. The oldest of the DR movements, the paleocons, is mostly a dead letter, and about the only place that a middle-aged woman would be found. The other DR movements are mostly made up of younger males.

    So anyone telling the movements to become more “female friendly” is running into bad memories of grifter females. And Gens Y and Z are liklier to have grown up from divorced parents than Boomers and Gen X like you. There has been a lot of sucessful crossover with the Red Pill communities, but no instance of white feminists adopting right-wing views as a response to bullying from PeeOhCee fems. I don’t consider TERFs to be a DR movement.

    And say what to them? Hey come join this movement where you will be incessantly scapegoated and slandered! What would be the point of that?

    No, I’m asking for humility. Women are going to be judged, but we’re not here to be judgemental. Being judged is not to elevate my own status, its a purpose of settling accounts.

    NATSAL infographic 1_1b Average (mean) number of opposite-sex partners

    • Replies: @Rosie
  83. Rosie says:
    @216

    There has been a lot of sucessful crossover with the Red Pill communities, but no instance of white feminists adopting right-wing views as a response to bullying from PeeOhCee fems.

    It’s no wonder given what they are liable to find when they go lurking around DR websites. You are wasting precious time and opportunities.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2018/08/19/new-survey-what-exactly-does-a-white-nationalist-look-like/wn-survey/

    • Replies: @216
  84. Rosie says:
    @216

    Why would that be surprising? It’s New York!

    Meanwhile, 70% of White women in Georgia voted for Trump. Among non-college White women, it was 78%.

    Politics is downstream from culture.

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/georgia/president

  85. @Rosie

    Where is your evidence that men desire significantly more children than women, and would be open to having more if women were willing?

    Did you set that up as a ‘Dorothy Dixer‘? Because it’s stupidly easy to answer, both in terms of social evidence in CurrentYear, and brute biology.

    The main CurrentYear evidence for men desiring significantly more children than women, is the abundance of men who father children with multiple women – and the resultant growth in the number of ‘single mothers’.

    There are women who have children fathered by multiple men, to be sure – but they are a much smaller proportion of women: they are women who have nothing better to do with their time, for 9 months at a time. After all, a single fertile woman can get impregnated once a year (give or take).

    By contrast; a single fertile male can impregnate a dozen women a day. A bloke only has to have a spare 5 minutes to get his side of the job done.

    Differential preferences for generating offspring is also a very obvious outcome of the relative intensity of the ‘ordeal’ of offspring-generation in a modern Western society (and more generally).

    The man only has to ejaculate and move on; the woman has to undergo the ordeal of gestation and childbirth; the State picks up most of the tab.

    It’s literally why male humans are thought to generate a type of sperm that blocks rival sperm – although the evidence for this is contentious; what is not contentious is that spermatozoa that are 100% ‘related’ co-operate within the same ejaculate (all spermatozoa within an ejaculate are 100% or 0% related: weird, but true).

    • Replies: @Rosie
  86. Rosie says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Did you set that up as a ‘Dorothy Dixer‘? Because it’s stupidly easy to answer, both in terms of social evidence in CurrentYear, and brute biology.

    I was talking about social fatherhood as well as biological fatherhood. It’s one thing to theoretically want to have as many offspring as possible; it’s quite another to be willing to take on the responsibilities of being a father.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  87. @Rosie

    because there is no case. He just says you’re insane if you can’t see it! Classic gaslighting!

    And yet you wonder why you’re on my ignore list? I get the solidarity with the sisterhood crap, but far more important is solidarity with your husbands and sons who are the ONLY thing between you and getting gang-raped by negroes and Arabs on a daily basis. I haven’t the patience or remotest motivation to provide you with specific citations on the women’s voting history. It’s history, look it up yourself or don’t. It is insane to even attempt to engage you further.

    Bye bye sweetheart.

    • Replies: @3g4me
    , @Rosie
  88. 3g4me says:
    @Stan d Mute

    @ 95 Stan d Mute: ” . . . but far more important is solidarity with your husbands and sons . . . ”

    THIS. While my close friends have always been women, on the whole I find women emotionally incontinent air-headed thots. At the gym, at the grocery store, back in my school days. I don’t give a damn about social status, popular opinion, or going along with the crowd. Never have. And Rosie’s vision of a ‘sisterhood’ is one to which I will never subscribe. My family (and that means my husband and sons) comes first. My best friend (female, of course) also puts her husband first and the four of us get along splendidly. Intelligent, outspoken, feminine, and yet ultimately submissive by choice – it’s part of God’s design and what the opposition has been working assiduously to undermine and destroy, because that unequal partnership between men and women is the foundation of civilization.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Stan d Mute
  89. Stealth says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Speaking of black people, I believe they’re under-counted by the census bureau. After I moved out of the South, I noticed tons of black people in places where blacks are supposed to be only a very minuscule portion of the population.

    Also, figures show that my home state is majority white, but I don’t think I’ve visited even one town there that didn’t appear to be at least half black.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  90. Rosie says:
    @Stan d Mute

    I get the solidarity with the sisterhood crap, but far more important is solidarity with your husbands and sons who are the ONLY thing between you and getting gang-raped by negroes and Arabs on a daily basis.

    If you gave the slightest f*** about my sons and their future, you would stop sabotaging this movement with your unhinged misogyny.

    Women can vote and there’s not a damned thing you can do about it. That will remain the case for the foreseeable future. Choose your words accordingly, or get called out as the liability that you are.

  91. Rosie says:
    @3g4me

    THIS. While my close friends have always been women, on the whole I find women emotionally incontinent air-headed thots.

    Oh look you’re one of the “good ones.” Isn’t that special?

    I will ask you. How does the constant bashing of women on this site help my sons? What would help my sons is a functioning White advocacy movement, which we will never have as long as these ridiculous woman-haters continue to vindicate every leftist stereotype of proud White people.

    • Replies: @3g4me
  92. @3g4me

    that unequal partnership between men and women is the foundation of civilization.

    Provided that by “unequal” you mean heavily weighted in women’s favor then I agree entirely. We are charged with the protection and violence and are entirely disposable. You guys bear our sons and daughters are must be protected at all costs. I don’t subscribe to the mythology stuff, this is simply the way Nature has decided mammals operate.

    Our Rosie must have some very dark experiences either past or present because the picture she draws bears zero resemblance to any married couple I know myself included. We know better than to displease our wives but most of us also draw a hard line around matters relating to safety and security of our home and family. Our wives are more than happy to see us get up a 3am when there’s a bump in the night, grab a firearm and flashlight, then go discover the dog took a shit on the floor.

    A marriage is Yin and Yang. Neither part is sufficient to itself. A billion years of evolution (or a Sky Fairy if you so believe) caused this dichotomy and it takes a real fool to think he can battle Nature (or Sky Fairy) and win.

    • Agree: MikeatMikedotMike
  93. @Stealth

    What you’re seeing is just ghettoization. Negroes live in negro warrens. They really don’t want to be in our neighborhoods with the exception of the few who they label Uncle Toms. But they do want our goodies. So if you see a few, you’ll see many. Here in the home of White Flight, we have seen this dynamic replayed endlessly. A couple good negro families move into a neighborhood which then attracts less good negroes followed by the run-of-the-mill ghetto boyz. And now it’s a negro neighborhood where any remaining whites will be terrorized until they’re murdered or they move out.

    If anything, given that such massive numbers of negroes are government dependents, they’re over counted in my opinion. The more negroes a state or municipality can count, the more entitlement spending they can demand.

  94. 3g4me says:
    @Rosie

    @ 99 Rosie: “Oh look you’re one of the “good ones.” Isn’t that special?”

    Damn right I am. Your laudable support for a functioning White advocacy movement is hamstrung by your denial of White women’s well-documented culpability for acting, advocating, and voting based on feelings rather than rationality and logic. Cite all the purported statistics claiming the opposite you’d like; that merely further likens you to Sailer’s resident Hindus and Koreans who insist their magic numbers disprove what everyone else’s common sense and experience has demonstrated.

    Women are, unfortunately, of a herd mentality. However, most women smart enough and rational enough to consider the hard realities of ethno-nationalism without dissolving in tears because it’s not niiice are not going to join your crusade to paint White nationalist men as the enemy. THEY started the movement, they provide the intellectual rationale and impetus and put their careers and/or limited freedom on the line for their beliefs. Women should shut up and support them, and save any preaching for the White women on the c–k carousel stuffing their faces with Mexican food or casting amorous glances at Negro men at the gym.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    , @Rosie
  95. Trevor H. says:
    @Svigor

    I typed that, looked at it, and said “WTF does that even mean?” Decided to let someone else figure it out!

    • Replies: @Svigor
  96. Trevor H. says:
    @3g4me

    Sailer’s resident Hindus and Koreans who insist their magic numbers disprove what everyone else’s common sense and experience has demonstrated.

    Wow, I thought I was the only one who noticed this.

    About the other thing, I don’t think women should shut up, but I can’t deny that by far the loudest ones are simply regurgitating MSM propaganda that they inhaled from their favorite tv shows.

    And not only are they loudest, they appear to be by far the most numerous. If self-respecting women here wanted to do something useful, they be attacking them instead of us.

  97. Rosie says:
    @3g4me

    Your laudable support for a functioning White advocacy movement is hamstrung by your denial of White women’s well-documented culpability for acting, advocating, and voting based on feelings rather than rationality and logic.

    None of what you say here changes the following facts:

    (1) Men are disproportionately responsible for bringing non-Whites into White countries for cheap labor, and for exporting the industrial base of the whole of Western civilization to a Colossal rival in East Asia.

    If women act irrationally because of “feelings,” men do so because of greed.

    Cite all the purported statistics claiming the opposite you’d like; that merely further likens you to Sailer’s resident Hindus and Koreans who insist their magic numbers disprove what everyone else’s common sense and experience has demonstrated.

    Oh yes, just ignore the statistics you don’t like. The simple fact is this: politics is downstream from culture. Who let the Jews take over Western culture? Men did.

    My point is not that it’s all men’s fault, but rather that it is not all women’s fault.

    your crusade to paint White nationalist men as the enemy.

    I’m on no such crusade. It’s not White nationalist men who are the enemy. It is the MGTOW/manosphere types who are the enemy. They are doing the Jew’s work, sowing division among the goyim.

    It’s ironic you accuse me of excessive loyalty to the “sisterhood,” when in fact I am the one resisting sex politics in the dissident Right.

    THEY started the movement, they provide the intellectual rationale and impetus and put their careers and/or limited freedom on the line for their beliefs.

    Remember this lady? She was working for Rebel Media when she decided to keep an open mind and give the Charlottesville rally fair coverage. She got fired for it.

    Another woman who has been viciously harassed for standing up for Whites:

    Pro-White teacher fired:

    I could go on.

    Women should shut up and support them

    You go ahead and stfu then. You don’t have anything interesting to say anyway.

    If you have children, I would seriously encourage you to think about what you are saying. When my sons are grown, if they ask me why the alt-Right failed, I’ll be able to at least say I tried to stop them from destroying themselves. What will you say?

    “Sorry, dear, I was too busy preening myself on how “feminine” and submissive I am to actually criticize them for their stupidity. Now you get to live as a hated minority in your own country.”

    • Agree: Charles Pewitt
    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  98. @Rosie

    Lay Off The White Ladies, You Nutless White Rats!

    Tweets from 2015:

  99. Tiny Duck says:
    @Svigor

    Wow. This is just pure evil. This sounds like something an actual Nazi would say.

    Do you endorse this genocidal hatred Audacious?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  100. @Audacious Epigone

    I’m afraid that if the Jew is removed the defeated white gentile is still going to be a defeated white gentile.

    The weaker some Whites are, the easier it will be for a patriotic White Christian leader to join the strong Anglo-Celts in the South with the strong Germans in the Great Lakes states in order to assume power in the United States.

    Populism is the desire from the citizenry to change-out their ruling class in order to replace their ruling class with a ruling class that advances and protects the interests of the citizenry and the nation as a whole.

    Pander to the German Americans and the White women, and you will be in good position to emerge as the leader of the new patriotic ruling class that will advance the interests of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    The WASP/JEW ruling class of the American Empire is a dodo bird — good riddance!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  101. Corvinus says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    “We’re devoid of purpose…”

    I wouldn’t say that. We all have a purpose in life.

    “and showered with drugs, porn, and degenerate pop culture”

    Point taken.

    “living on virtual reservations as invaders pour in promising us they are our friends who mean us no harm. Sounds familiar indeed.”

    Now you are being way over dramatic. Now if you feel so bad for Native Americans since we seized by force their land, give it back to them, and self-deport. The rest of us will figure things out.

  102. Corvinus says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    “The weaker some Whites are…”

    Wait, I thought whites overall have high IQ’s and are strong. Where are you getting this notion?

    “the easier it will be for a patriotic White Christian leader to join the strong Anglo-Celts in the South with the strong Germans in the Great Lakes states in order to assume power in the United States.”

    So that’s all we need to right the ship? OK, so why don’t YOU take on the reins of leadership. Clearly you are white, a patriot, and a Christian leader, right? The moment is now for you to make yourself known as our next leader. Of course, if you are not up to the challenge, I am certain you have a short list of candidates who are available to take that spot. So, please share that list.

    “Populism is the desire from the citizenry to change-out their ruling class in order to replace their ruling class with a ruling class that advances and protects the interests of the citizenry and the nation as a whole.”

    OK, so now that you have this definition down pat, you are prepared to go out in public and lead. What are you waiting for? Your people need you. Do not let them down.

  103. @Rosie

    Pressuring them is a desperation play that, as you say, is unlikely to work.

    Most women have a natural inclination towards nurturing, obviously. An ideal zeitgeist would embrace and celebrate that. Raising the next generation is a lot more important than sending some meaningless email to some other do-nothing drone in another soulless office somewhere.

    I’ve heard plenty of stories about women who planned on just taking six weeks of maternity leave before going back to work who ended up taking significantly more time off than that.

  104. @216

    Educational attainment among women absolutely blows all other variables out of the water when it comes to correlating (inversely) with total fertility. There is nothing else that comes close, including IQ. There is no dysgenic trend among smart women who don’t pursue higher education. One of the most eugenic things we could do is treat college as a remedial thing to get everyone to the same level before going out into the world (ie hold the slowest learners back to repeat grades they are unable to pass and make college mandatory with a testing out option).

    This would entail an enormous amount of social engineering and I’m not pretending its practical, of course.

    • Replies: @krustykurmudgeon
  105. @Rosie

    I’m a middle-aged mother of six

    Three cheers. No, six cheers! I will try to keep up. Halfway there. My wife is 28, so we have a chance.

  106. @Rosie

    Separating procreation from fornication is important here. In the past, the two were inextricably linked. Today, they need not be so at all. We are a couple of generations into one of the most significant shifts in evolutionary pressures as a result. The GSS does show ideal number of children to be very similar among men and women (2.94 for men and 3.02 for women). When it comes to desire for fornication, men are way out in front, obviously.

  107. @Tiny Duck

    Separation? I lean towards not, instead hoping that the Jew/Gentile difference of the future becomes like the Protestant/Catholic difference today, but maybe full aliyah would be better.

    If he’s alluding to something different, no, there is no need for violence. If we can’t find the will to protect ourselves and our posterity when violence is obviously not called for–and it’s not for whites anywhere save for South Africa at this point–we’re not going to find the will for violence.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  108. Svigor says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    If the Jew is removed, Whites can begin healing. Until then (((they’ll) just keep tearing open the bandaged wounds.

  109. Svigor says:

    Jews have proven the swing vote in some circumstances, e.g.:

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1510/
    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1499/

    And that’s just legislatively, where their power-levels are relatively low (Jewish money-power and media-power are relatively much greater). And where much of their power is disguised as goyische (i.e., Jews buy off goy pols).

  110. Svigor says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    Yes. Put another way, the requirements for violent revolution and non-violent revolution are quite similar, and the White race currently meets neither. And if we meet one, we almost certainly meet the other, and so would be well-served choosing the more pleasant path. Violent resistance is for when non-violent resistance has been ruled out, and that is not the situation we find ourselves in. Most violent rhetoric is frustration or fedpoasting.

  111. Svigor says:
    @Trevor H.

    LoL, glad we were on the same page. 😀

  112. Svigor says:
    @Svigor

    Svigor says:
    January 13, 2019 at 6:08 am GMT • 200 Words

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone, @Corvinus, @Tiny Duck

    You last two can go suck some more dicks. Gave you years to make one post worth a fuck, and finally blocked you.

    P.S., your mothers are both whores. Or were, if the planet is fortunate enough to have seen them dead and into undeserved graves.

    Unz is much better when one is free with the “ignore” function. Now I block all shitbirds pretty early on, having learned from shitbirds like Corvanus and Tiny Dick.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  113. Svigor says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Agree. I noticed this with Tucker Carlson recently, in his epic monologue. He said something like “Capitalism is a tool, not a religion.” I’ve been saying “Capitalism is a tool, not a ruling system” (and many variants – I’ve never been one for 100% consistency) for a good many years here. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got it somewhere else, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he got it from me, either.

    That said, I like his version better. 🙂

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  114. @Svigor

    Unz is much better when one is free with the “ignore” function. Now I block all shitbirds pretty early on, having learned from shitbirds like Corvanus and Tiny Dick.

    Congrats brother on graduating Stan’s Unz 101 class. Next is liberal use of the “commenters to follow” feature. I’ll admit I myself use it too infrequently, but as a new graduate I have just added you to my list in lieu of a sheepskin diploma.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  115. @Svigor

    That said, I like his version better

    Thats why he makes the big bucks!

  116. Svigor says:
    @Stan d Mute

    I never even took note of the “follow” feature, until you mentioned it. Will have to investigate.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  117. @Svigor

    I make too little use of it myself although I added a dozen pseudonyms to it in the last couple of days. One problem, for me anyway, is that both ignore and follow are device specific so when I change devices (I use at least four frequently and often play with/test another handful) they’re of no utility at all.

    Ideally, I’d be able to read blog posts and articles then just go to the comment archive and read/reply to the folks who’ve exhibited signs of great intellect or insight without wading through screen after screen of OobyGooby and Tiny Dick grayed out boxes. Would also be great if the archive was synced in real time but that appears not to be the case either. Yeah, I could pester Ron about this as well as his miserly “one agree per hour” allowance, but I’m too grateful to him for hosting this site out of his own pocket to whine to the man. In the big picture, it’s all good here. Kinda like when I proofed & edited Colin Flaherty’s last book and didn’t even get a signed copy in return. I’m not complaining and I’ll volunteer to do it again.

  118. @Audacious Epigone

    this gets to the question. If you’re a reasonably smart woman and want children at some point. What do you do? I’m skeptical that having kids in late 30s and early 40s is hard to do because in the large Irish-catholic families in my mother’s mother’s family, the youngest few kids were born after 35. So planning to start a family at that age isn’t something to completely discount.

    But if there career is so important – does that mean they should retire once they have the children – rendering there degree a complete waste? I mean I find the whole “MRS degree” of yesteryear to be disgusting since its a waste of money and condescending. I think for the genuinely smart women – they should go to college and that whatever business they work for should be able to make reasonable accommodations for when they have kids – but for other women – it would make sense that they go straight to work after high school and then when they stop enjoying single life – they can “retire”

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