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Vox Day speculates:

* Major Premise: A very large quantity of Jews were killed in the 1936 to 1945 time frame.
* Minor Premise: The meticulously bureaucratic Germans, for whom historians possess a tremendous quantity of historical documents related to the WWII era, do not appear to have kept any records of any of the many aspects of the logistical and operative decisions and actions required for the major premise, nor did they have the motive or the opportunity to thoroughly eliminate those records.
* Conclusion: Someone other than the Germans killed most of those Jews.

Now, who could that someone else be? It would have to be someone who was alive in the relevant time period and possessed the following attributes:

* Access to Eastern Europe and Russia.
* A willingness to commit mass murder.
* Control over large-scale military and logistical forces.
* Significant influence over Western government figures and the media.
* A master of propaganda.
* Lethal hostility to Jewish Bolshevists.
* An expert at playing “let’s you and him fight”.

Can you think of anyone who might fit that bill? And recall that it was not until just eight years ago when it was finally confirmed the massacre of 22,000 Poles in 1940 that took place in the Katyn Forest was approved by the Soviet Politburo and was committed by Soviet forces, rather than by the Nazis as had been previously believed.

From Infogalactic: Following the Soviet invasion of Poland, Stalin began a policy of relocating Jews to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and other parts of Siberia. Throughout the war, similar movements were executed in regions considered vulnerable to Nazi invasion with the various target ethnic groups of the Nazi genocide.

Doesn’t that sound a little… conveniently coincidental? Was Stalin relocating these target ethnic groups out of the goodness of his otherwise black heart? And how did he know those ethnic groups were at risk during the 22 months between September 1939 and June 1941, given that the Nazi invasion of 1941 is supposed to have taken him by complete surprise?

It just strikes me that this would be a very good approach for neoliberalism.txt to take: Rewrite history to have Russians do the Holocaust.

Is it practical?

Well, with concerted effort, why not. See the swing in French viewpoints on which country contributed most to Allied victory in WW2 between 1945 and the 1990s, thanks to half a century of Hollywood.

poll-ussr-usa-contributed-allied-victory-ww2

Something similar has already been accomplished, when early 20th century polemicists claimed millions of Jewish deaths in Tsarist pogroms (in reality, they numbered in the low thousands).

So it’s clearly feasible – especially bearing in mind the increasing consolidation of media control into fewer and fewer companies, and the elimination of non-mainstream voices in social media.

The Nazis = Russia equivalence has already been well established by Blue Cheqmarks anyway, so approximately half the heavy lifting is already done anyway.

Existing Holocaust denial laws can be weaponized against conspiracy theorists who continue to claim it was the Germans.

It will also be high disreputable, if not outright illegal, to question the Soviet = Russian equivalence. They won’t even have to invent much of the narrative – the basic framework has already been laid down by the alliance of sovoks, neocons, and East European nationalists.

It’s also safe to say that there wouldn’t be any particular qualms about this. Neoliberalism.txt is pathologically opposed to Russians to an essentially genocidal degree, while ZOG as the metaphysical distillation of Jewish ethnic genetic interests will stop at nothing in service of its propagation (e.g. see how Netanyahu basically blames the Holocaust on Palestinians).

But would ZOG cooperate with neoliberalism.txt on this project?

While neoliberalism.txt has this strange, creepy unity of purpose on both sides of the Atlantic, ZOG itself is subdivided into several factions.

50-shades-of-zog

In particular, while ZOG Prime – the main Jewish adjunct to neoliberalism.txt – can be expected to go for the ride, it’s not clear that the more overtly nationalist Chabad ZOG will swallow the bait.

But the incentives are there.

After all, a Russian Holocaust of the Jews would form a powerful founding myth for a neoliberalism.txt dominated world (at least outside the Sinosphere). Its patent incorrectness will constitute feature, not bug; all great religions are built on taboos, and it would have the added bonus of necessitating total information control unto the ages of ages. By conceding one of the central questions to their most hardcore elements, it would bring the Western Alt Right in line with the neoliberalism.txt hegemony (perhaps they could call this process Gleichschaltung). Immanentized Russophobia will also reconcile East European nationalists – or at least the Polish and Baltic ones – with the Western Alt Right, which is otherwise currently riven by a cold war between Russophiles and Russophobes. Finally, ZOG itself will be perfectly at home in this brave new world – Holocaust guilt will still be the center of the Western world-civilization, but will no longer tainted by ROG.

 
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  1. Sean says:

    Well, Ukrainian nationalists were killed at Babi Yar, It may be that just as when invaders took over the country they use the old prisons, the Germans were not the first to use Babi Yar for mass shootings.

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  2. I’m a little stunned by the Vox Day commenters who are taking this idea seriously. How ignorant do you have to be, to think this makes sense? I thought these were right-wing tough guys whose claim to superiority is worldly realism. But maybe they get their ideas of history and warfare from games.

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    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @the Supreme Gentleman
    I think Vox Day tends to censor comments that criticize the workings of his infallible intellect?

    I remember that, after he was absolutely humiliated by Andrew Anglin in a debate, the comments on his post-mortem post were unerringly sycophantic, with very dated 2006-2010 era memes as well. I have to figure that he only achieved such a response by extensively censoring the comments.
    , @WHAT
    Never expect Anglo to not be delusional about itself and the world around it to an unbelievable degree. Especially when it coalesces into banhammered echochamber like comments there.

    Besides, it is literally a comixcuck blog. Why do you expect anything?
    , @notanon

    I’m a little stunned by the Vox Day commenters who are taking this idea seriously.
     
    when people realize the mainstream narrative is almost all lies they become willing to consider every other possibility - if this idea has no legs it will be rejected after debate.

    this is the first time i've heard the idea and i'm not sure i could believe the scale but on a small scale it would kinda fit with Stalin's earlier purges - "transporting valued comrades to the east for their own safety" would be a great way to murder lots of political rivals without them suspecting anything.
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  3. BlackFlag says:

    How much influence did Jews have in the Soviet government and NKVD during WW2?

    AK, can you explain why some of the commenters on Russia Insider day you’re anti-russian? I visited the site and apparently there are all kinds of factions.

    Btw, I sent you a donation and an email.

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    • Replies: @Jayce

    why some of the commenters on Russia Insider day you’re anti-russian?
     
    "Anti-Russian" in this context usually means one likes Russia and hangs out among "Russophiles" but doesn't believe Putin is magic and/or won't make excuses for everything the USSR ever did and/or is insufficiently enthusiastic about sundry third-world "anti-imperialist" causes.
    , @Anonymous
    Anatoly, despite what he says, is basically a Zionist. And his Pro-Russia narratives are along the lines of doing what is best for Isreal.

    I think Anatoly has become sensitive to this and has toned it down a little. But there is a reason other Russians don't trust him.

    The Saker and Andrei Martanyov clearly don't trust or respect him.
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    Thank you for your very kind and generous donation.

    How much influence did Jews have in the Soviet government and NKVD during WW2?
     
    Not much. It collapsed in the late 1930s.

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/samolet73/18551660/194209/194209_original.jpg

    Russians(Ukrs, etc) - blue; Jews - red.

    AK, can you explain why some of the commenters on Russia Insider day you’re anti-russian? I visited the site and apparently there are all kinds of factions.
     
    I might be a bit biased. But I think it's because many of them are illiterate cretins, and/or think Putin is the The Prince That Was Promised to finally destroy ZIONISM and are constantly inventing 666D CHESS theories for every new zrada ("betrayal") that their Lord and God inflicts on them.
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  4. AaronB says:

    Would it make a difference? All white people are tarred by the H. Whites in America are. Swedes are. Shifting blame to Russia would do nothing.

    It’s a racial thing.

    Its all about symbolism. You can be selfish but you can’t symbolically “stand” for selfishness.

    Jews act incredibly self-serving but symbolically “stand” for non-selfishness.

    Its this “doubleness” that you whites will never master because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.

    If we can convince people that we didn’t materially commit the H, we’ll be good,you simple mindedly think. But you will still have symbolically committed it. No one cares what you actuallydid.

    Why do whites symbolically stand for selfishess? Because those are the symbols you’ve chosen for yourselves.

    Capitalism, science, logic, materialism, world conquest. This is the White Flag, the symbols you’ve chosen to wrap yourselves in.

    What symbols have Jews chosen? Blacks? Asians?What are their flags?

    Jews are symbolically seen as being about justice and concern for the downtrodden. Blacks about “soul” and fun, Asians about strong family bonds exotic cultures and good food.

    Actual behavior represents fallible human nature and everyone forgives that – the symbols you choose for yourself represent your moral aspirations, and that is what you are judged by collectively. Not your actions, which always fall short. But your aspirations, expressed through your self chosen symbolic identity.

    And your symbolic identity is not random or arbitrary, but do represent your true aspirations.

    Whites can act selfishly and everyone will forgive them – but your moral aspirations can’t be a candidly expressed selfishness. Then you “stand,” for that, and no one will forgive you.

    So on the end, genuine change is required, and the focus on cosmetics is a flailing about in the dark.

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    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    Your pseudo-spirituality is merely a cover to disguise how utterly shallow you are when it comes to certain matters. You would be much interesting if you could just restrict your comments to the lucid ones.

    you whites
     
    So what are you then?
    , @iffen
    because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.

    Blah, blah, blah.
    , @surly
    Overall this is a very good observation.

    Its this “doubleness” that you whites will never master because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.
     
    This is pretty good. Europeans are a broken masculine force, Jews a broken feminine force. After all...

    Jews act incredibly self-serving but symbolically “stand” for non-selfishness.
     

    If we can convince people that we didn’t materially commit the H, we’ll be good,you simple mindedly think. But you will still have symbolically committed it. No one cares what you actually did.
     
    Jews find a strong civilization, play indirect, feminine and manipulative games to get the upper hand. If they succeed, they use up the credit card until they get bored and find a stronger civilization, oh say China. https://www.haaretz.com/1.4920795

    Europeans didn't help their cause when they culled out their own aggressive masculinity. https://www.vdare.com/articles/death-penalty.

    It's like reading Cheateu Heartiste. The solipsism, gaslighting, narcissism, crazymaking BPD antics... it's what you do when you're a gal. Whites that want to regain their own self-respect will remember:

    You are an oak tree. You will not be manipulated by crying, yelling, lying, head games, ... jealousy ploys, pity plays, shit tests, hot/cold/hot/cold, disappearing acts, or guilt trips. She will rain and thunder all around you... She will not drag you into her chaos or uproot you.
    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

     

    I.e., We're not the ex-lover that may or may not have abused you to the degree you endlessly rant about, though you like to tell stories and we couldn't help but notice you also tend to exaggerate, so spare us. Leave if you don't like it.
    , @surly

    Its this “doubleness” that you whites will never master because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.
     
    This is pretty good, but needs a tweak. Europeans/whites aren't wired for "doubleness". Europeans are a broken masculine force, Jews a broken feminine force. After all...

    Jews act incredibly self-serving but symbolically “stand” for non-selfishness.
     

    If we can convince people that we didn’t materially commit the H, we’ll be good,you simple mindedly think. But you will still have symbolically committed it. No one cares what you actually did.
     
    Jews find a strong civilization, play indirect and manipulative games to get the upper hand. If they succeed, they get bored, use up the credit cards, then find someone stronger. Say China. https://www.haaretz.com/1.4920795

    Europeans didn't help their cause when they culled out their own aggressiveness. https://www.vdare.com/articles/death-penalty.

    It's like reading Cheateu Heartiste. The solipsism, gaslighting, narcissism, BPD antics... it's what you do when you're a broken gal, and betas can't extract themselves from the crazy. Whites that want to regain their self-respect and autonomy will remember:

    You are an oak tree. You will not be manipulated by crying, yelling, lying, head games, ... jealousy ploys, pity plays, shit tests, hot/cold/hot/cold, disappearing acts, or guilt trips. She will rain and thunder all around you... She will not drag you into her chaos or uproot you.
    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

     

    I.e., Bitch all you want, we're not the ex-lover that may or may not have abused you to the degree you endlessly rant about. So spare us. Leave if you don't like it.
    , @Jett Rucker
    Who should change what? And, optionally, how?
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  5. @AaronB
    Would it make a difference? All white people are tarred by the H. Whites in America are. Swedes are. Shifting blame to Russia would do nothing.

    It's a racial thing.

    Its all about symbolism. You can be selfish but you can't symbolically "stand" for selfishness.

    Jews act incredibly self-serving but symbolically "stand" for non-selfishness.

    Its this "doubleness" that you whites will never master because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.

    If we can convince people that we didn't materially commit the H, we'll be good,you simple mindedly think. But you will still have symbolically committed it. No one cares what you actuallydid.

    Why do whites symbolically stand for selfishess? Because those are the symbols you've chosen for yourselves.

    Capitalism, science, logic, materialism, world conquest. This is the White Flag, the symbols you've chosen to wrap yourselves in.

    What symbols have Jews chosen? Blacks? Asians?What are their flags?

    Jews are symbolically seen as being about justice and concern for the downtrodden. Blacks about "soul" and fun, Asians about strong family bonds exotic cultures and good food.

    Actual behavior represents fallible human nature and everyone forgives that - the symbols you choose for yourself represent your moral aspirations, and that is what you are judged by collectively. Not your actions, which always fall short. But your aspirations, expressed through your self chosen symbolic identity.

    And your symbolic identity is not random or arbitrary, but do represent your true aspirations.

    Whites can act selfishly and everyone will forgive them - but your moral aspirations can't be a candidly expressed selfishness. Then you "stand," for that, and no one will forgive you.

    So on the end, genuine change is required, and the focus on cosmetics is a flailing about in the dark.

    Your pseudo-spirituality is merely a cover to disguise how utterly shallow you are when it comes to certain matters. You would be much interesting if you could just restrict your comments to the lucid ones.

    you whites

    So what are you then?

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    My lucid comments are the most obvious and dull ones.
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  6. Jayce says:
    @BlackFlag
    How much influence did Jews have in the Soviet government and NKVD during WW2?

    AK, can you explain why some of the commenters on Russia Insider day you're anti-russian? I visited the site and apparently there are all kinds of factions.

    Btw, I sent you a donation and an email.

    why some of the commenters on Russia Insider day you’re anti-russian?

    “Anti-Russian” in this context usually means one likes Russia and hangs out among “Russophiles” but doesn’t believe Putin is magic and/or won’t make excuses for everything the USSR ever did and/or is insufficiently enthusiastic about sundry third-world “anti-imperialist” causes.

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  7. Dmitry says:

    I realize this is a comedy text.

    But even in a comedy context – “neoliberalism” is a little distant from conspiracy theories on history of the Second World War.

    Neoliberalism is using the word “neo”, because the word “liberal” was misapplied in the 20th century to refer to socialist ideas. Neoliberalism is referring to use of the original 19th century liberal policy, in the 20th century.

    This is building on a tradition of Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson, etc. In the 20th century, many ideas become refined to a more sophisticated level in the essays of Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, and the general Austrian School of Economy. The most important ideas are opposition to central planning, importance of freemarket capitalism, opposition to welfare state, and reduction of government.

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    But even in a comedy context – “neoliberalism” is a little distant from conspiracy theories on history of the Second World War.
     
    neoliberalism = rule by the banking mafia - they use people like Adam Smith etc as a smoke screen.

    my WW2+neoliberalism conspiracy theory is...

    once upon a time (1912) the banking mafia wanted 90% control of both Russia and the West (at the same time) so they could use the combined power to impose global government with them in charge behind the scenes.

    in 1913 (federal reserve) they had say 20% control of the US but only say 5% control of Russia but after instigating WW1 to weaken the Tsar and then funding the Bolshevik coup by 1917 banking mafia control of Russia was up to around 90% - which explain why Wall St. funded the industrialization of the Soviet Union (so they could use it to attack Western Europe).

    (basically Mordor (Wall St.) funding Saruman in Isengard (Soviet Union) to build an army to attack Rohan)

    however then the Germans happened and invaded Russia forcing Stalin to bring back Russian patriotism to defend the motherland (and in the process maybe using that to put all his Bolshevik party rivals in the gulag?).

    post-war, as the banking mafia's control of the west (particularly US/UK) grew stronger reaching c. 90% control by the 1980s (Thatcher/Reagan) at the same time their control of Russia was going down as a result of Stalin's purges - hence them eventually bringing down the Soviet Union (by not subsidizing it any more) leading to them briefly regaining control of Russia again through the oligarchs.

    (i.e. the Cold War wasn't USA vs Russia it was banking mafia vs both USA and Russia using whichever one they had most control over at the time to attack/weaken the other)

    the 1990s were probably peak banking mafia power hence the invention of the global warming scam to scare people into global government and permanent banking mafia rule (which would literally be hell btw as the banking mafia are distilled evil).

    and then it all started to go wrong due to its own internal contradictions and some random events
    - reality of hbd vis a vis diversity
    - inherent instability of moving production to one place leaving consumers in another
    - nationalist/populist reaction
    - jihadist reaction
    - Pooty

    hence why we're currently teetering on the brink of WW3 as they desperately lunge for the ring.
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  8. Anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:

    Spencer, Roissy, Cernovich, Unz, and now Vox.

    It’s like these guys are afraid of winning, and so choose to retreat into self-marginalizing craziness. If mainstream society choose to accept their current theories, they’d declare the earth to be flat the following day.

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  9. El Dato says:

    Minor Premise: The meticulously bureaucratic Germans, for whom historians possess a tremendous quantity of historical documents related to the WWII era, do not appear to have kept any records of any of the many aspects of the logistical and operative decisions and actions required for the major premise, nor did they have the motive or the opportunity to thoroughly eliminate those records.

    This premise sounds fishy.

    It is either “the most documented event in history” (official) or else “the most undocumented event in history” (Vox).

    “Eichmann was a crisis actor” is now a meme.

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  10. @Mitchell Porter
    I'm a little stunned by the Vox Day commenters who are taking this idea seriously. How ignorant do you have to be, to think this makes sense? I thought these were right-wing tough guys whose claim to superiority is worldly realism. But maybe they get their ideas of history and warfare from games.

    I think Vox Day tends to censor comments that criticize the workings of his infallible intellect?

    I remember that, after he was absolutely humiliated by Andrew Anglin in a debate, the comments on his post-mortem post were unerringly sycophantic, with very dated 2006-2010 era memes as well. I have to figure that he only achieved such a response by extensively censoring the comments.

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    I think Vox Day tends to censor comments that criticize the workings of his infallible intellect?
     
    Of course he does.

    His theories about "gamma males" and "midwits" are sound, but unfortunately Vox Day himself is the gammaest midwit on the Internet.

    Like other "gamma males", he should stick to doing apolitical art and leave the thinking business to competent adults.

    , @WHAT
    Can you provide a link to the absolute humiliation? Pompous blowhard being bantzed is a great entertainment.
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  11. @the Supreme Gentleman
    I think Vox Day tends to censor comments that criticize the workings of his infallible intellect?

    I remember that, after he was absolutely humiliated by Andrew Anglin in a debate, the comments on his post-mortem post were unerringly sycophantic, with very dated 2006-2010 era memes as well. I have to figure that he only achieved such a response by extensively censoring the comments.

    I think Vox Day tends to censor comments that criticize the workings of his infallible intellect?

    Of course he does.

    His theories about “gamma males” and “midwits” are sound, but unfortunately Vox Day himself is the gammaest midwit on the Internet.

    Like other “gamma males”, he should stick to doing apolitical art and leave the thinking business to competent adults.

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  12. Unfortunately this is a theory your body Unz is propagating.

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    • Replies: @whahae
    Unz is a deep cover operative of neoliberalism.txt. Duh.
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  13. Anon[330] • Disclaimer says:

    And recall that it was not until just eight years ago when it was finally confirmed the massacre of 22,000 Poles in 1940 that took place in the Katyn Forest was approved by the Soviet Politburo and was committed by Soviet forces, rather than by the Nazis as had been previously believed.

    I know Vox Day is not to be taken seriously but this is plain silly. The USSR admitted guilt and offered profound regret back in 1990.
    The US Congress Madden committee investigated and blamed the USSR in 1952.

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  14. whahae says:
    @Anarcho-Supremacist
    Unfortunately this is a theory your body Unz is propagating.

    Unz is a deep cover operative of neoliberalism.txt. Duh.

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  15. iffen says:
    @AaronB
    Would it make a difference? All white people are tarred by the H. Whites in America are. Swedes are. Shifting blame to Russia would do nothing.

    It's a racial thing.

    Its all about symbolism. You can be selfish but you can't symbolically "stand" for selfishness.

    Jews act incredibly self-serving but symbolically "stand" for non-selfishness.

    Its this "doubleness" that you whites will never master because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.

    If we can convince people that we didn't materially commit the H, we'll be good,you simple mindedly think. But you will still have symbolically committed it. No one cares what you actuallydid.

    Why do whites symbolically stand for selfishess? Because those are the symbols you've chosen for yourselves.

    Capitalism, science, logic, materialism, world conquest. This is the White Flag, the symbols you've chosen to wrap yourselves in.

    What symbols have Jews chosen? Blacks? Asians?What are their flags?

    Jews are symbolically seen as being about justice and concern for the downtrodden. Blacks about "soul" and fun, Asians about strong family bonds exotic cultures and good food.

    Actual behavior represents fallible human nature and everyone forgives that - the symbols you choose for yourself represent your moral aspirations, and that is what you are judged by collectively. Not your actions, which always fall short. But your aspirations, expressed through your self chosen symbolic identity.

    And your symbolic identity is not random or arbitrary, but do represent your true aspirations.

    Whites can act selfishly and everyone will forgive them - but your moral aspirations can't be a candidly expressed selfishness. Then you "stand," for that, and no one will forgive you.

    So on the end, genuine change is required, and the focus on cosmetics is a flailing about in the dark.

    because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.

    Blah, blah, blah.

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    • Replies: @AaronB
    And blah. Now your argument is complete. It always requires four blahs.
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  16. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:

    Unfortunately this is a theory your body Unz is propagating.

    There’s the ‘body politic’ and then there’s the ‘body Unz’.

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  17. Brabantian says: • Website

    The key supporting claim in the Vox Day article is this:

    This conclusion would also explain why so many Stalin-era documents are still sealed and kept strictly off-limits from researchers despite the fall of the Soviet Union. What other historical secret would merit such keeping even after so many years?

    AK has himself written about how the late 1930s Stalinist purges, very much reduced the ranks of Jews in the upper levels of the Soviet State … perhaps a factor in the general demonisation of Stalin afterwards by the significantly Jewish-influenced (or owned) Western media

    A commenter on Château Heartiste often refers to the Stalin purges of Jews, arguing that, like Stalin, before you purge the Jews, you actually have to purge the goys who are the ‘true believers’ in the Jewish-fostered ideologies … which explains the 1930s Soviet trials, a bunch of ‘true believers’ implicating themselves, hooked into a mental doom-loop of fanaticism that leads them to ‘confess’ for the greater glory of the Cause

    On the other hand, the standard anti-Holocaust revisionist narratives, tend to blame Stalin for helping to create the alleged hoax, as if Stalin was the Zionist agent, e.g., this from Mike King at TomatoBubble:

    The original claim of the gas chambers of Auschwitz was made in May of 1945 by Joseph Stalin’s Jewish-dominated ‘Extraordinary State Commission’, AFTER Germany’s unconditional surrender. AGAIN, with neither investigation nor confirmation, Stalin’s ‘gas chambers’ claim was publicised in the Jewish owned New York Times; the most “prestigious” newspaper in the world.

    It’s also claimed Stalin ordered some ‘rebuilding’ of the camps with ‘fake’ crematoria chimneys etc.

    The ‘still-sealed’ Soviet archives – if that is the case – can be linked with another major WW2 case of hidden truths, that of Rudolf Hess, who died in 1987 as the lone prisoner in Spandau, after NEVER being allowed to tell historians or media or even his family, what was the real story of his 1941 plane trip to Scotland.

    It is said Gorbachev wanted to puncture the lie that it was the Soviets keeping Hess in prison, when actually it was the British – and when Gorbachev moved to release Hess, British agents came to the prison and murdered Hess, a claim in mainstream media with testimony from a surgeon, Hess’ family, etc

    Sylvain Laforest on the Russia-tied Oriental Review, has a nicely-done 3-part series arguing that the truth they buried with Hess, and hid from the world via Hess’ draconian life-long prison gagging, was tied to the well-known fact that in the 1930s, Hitler’s ‘economic miracle’ was a result of heavy investments both from Wall Street and the City of London, Rothschilds etc.

    With the idea that Hitler and the Nazis were created as a war machine to serve the British-USA Anglo Empires, by not only making war upon Russia, but mauling France as well, given that the French were still fairly major rivals to the British at the time. It was the usual game of the Anglos trying to get the Continental Europeans to kill each other and weaken themselves.

    Laforest says this is why Hitler let the British forces escape at Dunkirk, when he could have wiped out or captured them. This is also why the British murderously destroyed the French fleet off the coast of Algeria in 1940, claims Laforest.

    Laforest makes an interesting argument that the USA double-crossed the British, and bribed or induced the Nazis to attack Britain, so that a global US-led empire would have no challenge from a rival Britain. Laforest believes that the Hess trip, was an offer from Hitler admitting the double-cross, and offering to withdraw from Western Europe and only go after Russia.

    Laforest notes that it was directly after the 1941 Hess mission – which made FDR realise that Hitler had now triple-crossed the USA instead of the British – that the USA started its big war-mongering against both Japan and Germany. And then after the war, there was general agreement to hide the fact that it was the oligarchs of the Anglo countries, who financed Hitler in the first place. A reasonable explanation of both Hess and the German 1930s ‘economic miracle’.

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    With the idea that Hitler and the Nazis were created as a war machine to serve the British-USA Anglo Empires, by not only making war upon Russia, but mauling France as well, given that the French were still fairly major rivals to the British at the time.
     
    And maybe Hitler was a Zionist agent put in place to ensure the creation of the state of Israel? You'd have to be a lunatic to believe this evidence-free nonsense. The cui bono of this conspiracy theory doesn't even make sense.

    It was the usual game of the Anglos trying to get the Continental Europeans to kill each other and weaken themselves.
     

    No it was the 'usual game' of Britain being dragged unwillingly to stop a continental country dominating Europe through wars of agression (e.g. Louis XIV, Napoleon) and then anti-Anglo fantasists blaming Britain for stopping their fantasies of being dominated by French/Germans.
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  18. AaronB says:
    @Hyperborean
    Your pseudo-spirituality is merely a cover to disguise how utterly shallow you are when it comes to certain matters. You would be much interesting if you could just restrict your comments to the lucid ones.

    you whites
     
    So what are you then?

    My lucid comments are the most obvious and dull ones.

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    My lucid comments are the most obvious and dull ones.
     
    Because of your endless repetition of simplistic clichés and facile solutions your pseudo-spiritual comments are actually the most dull.

    Is this an elaborate way of tying to smear Guénon and Eliade's memory?

    You avoided the question, if you use phrases such as 'you whites', does this mean Utu is right about you?
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    @iffen
    because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.

    Blah, blah, blah.

    And blah. Now your argument is complete. It always requires four blahs.

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    No... Aristotle said only 3 blahs.
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  20. WHAT says:
    @Mitchell Porter
    I'm a little stunned by the Vox Day commenters who are taking this idea seriously. How ignorant do you have to be, to think this makes sense? I thought these were right-wing tough guys whose claim to superiority is worldly realism. But maybe they get their ideas of history and warfare from games.

    Never expect Anglo to not be delusional about itself and the world around it to an unbelievable degree. Especially when it coalesces into banhammered echochamber like comments there.

    Besides, it is literally a comixcuck blog. Why do you expect anything?

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    Wtf does any of this have to do with anglos?
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    @the Supreme Gentleman
    I think Vox Day tends to censor comments that criticize the workings of his infallible intellect?

    I remember that, after he was absolutely humiliated by Andrew Anglin in a debate, the comments on his post-mortem post were unerringly sycophantic, with very dated 2006-2010 era memes as well. I have to figure that he only achieved such a response by extensively censoring the comments.

    Can you provide a link to the absolute humiliation? Pompous blowhard being bantzed is a great entertainment.

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    Original has been taken off Youtube, I think, but this seems like a basically identical copy:
    https://archive.org/details/youtube-cFyshlUgqjg

    It was indeed very satisfying to watch Anglin dunk on Vox, given how irritatingly pompous the latter is.
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  22. DFH says:
    @WHAT
    Never expect Anglo to not be delusional about itself and the world around it to an unbelievable degree. Especially when it coalesces into banhammered echochamber like comments there.

    Besides, it is literally a comixcuck blog. Why do you expect anything?

    Wtf does any of this have to do with anglos?

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    a lot of people see what US/UK does as "anglo" cos they don't understand US/UK is ruled by the banking mafia
    , @WHAT
    Because that blog is a perfect microcosm of anglo, duh.
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  23. notanon says:
    @Mitchell Porter
    I'm a little stunned by the Vox Day commenters who are taking this idea seriously. How ignorant do you have to be, to think this makes sense? I thought these were right-wing tough guys whose claim to superiority is worldly realism. But maybe they get their ideas of history and warfare from games.

    I’m a little stunned by the Vox Day commenters who are taking this idea seriously.

    when people realize the mainstream narrative is almost all lies they become willing to consider every other possibility – if this idea has no legs it will be rejected after debate.

    this is the first time i’ve heard the idea and i’m not sure i could believe the scale but on a small scale it would kinda fit with Stalin’s earlier purges – “transporting valued comrades to the east for their own safety” would be a great way to murder lots of political rivals without them suspecting anything.

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  24. notanon says:
    @DFH
    Wtf does any of this have to do with anglos?

    a lot of people see what US/UK does as “anglo” cos they don’t understand US/UK is ruled by the banking mafia

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  25. @AaronB
    My lucid comments are the most obvious and dull ones.

    My lucid comments are the most obvious and dull ones.

    Because of your endless repetition of simplistic clichés and facile solutions your pseudo-spiritual comments are actually the most dull.

    Is this an elaborate way of tying to smear Guénon and Eliade’s memory?

    You avoided the question, if you use phrases such as ‘you whites’, does this mean Utu is right about you?

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    I think he is succeeding in his ultimate goal of uniting everyone against him.
    , @DFH

    Is this an elaborate way of tying to smear Guénon and Eliade’s memory?
     
    Guénon's memory hardly needs smearing

    You avoided the question, if you use phrases such as ‘you whites’, does this mean Utu is right about you?
     
    He is Jewish
    , @AaronB
    I though you knew I was half Jewish and half white. I definitely do not "identify" as white, or Jewish. You're both pathetic groups these days, in different ways. And I'm definitely not a white supremacist lol.

    Utu just hates my guts because to him im Jewish. He used to be totally friendly to me until I revealed that I'm half Jewish. He also can't stand that I refuse to hate blacks and Asians. Cantankerous old coot, that utu.

    Cliches, facile solutions, and pseudo spiritual comments need to be repeated endlessly to drill it into your thick skulls.
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  26. @Hyperborean

    My lucid comments are the most obvious and dull ones.
     
    Because of your endless repetition of simplistic clichés and facile solutions your pseudo-spiritual comments are actually the most dull.

    Is this an elaborate way of tying to smear Guénon and Eliade's memory?

    You avoided the question, if you use phrases such as 'you whites', does this mean Utu is right about you?

    I think he is succeeding in his ultimate goal of uniting everyone against him.

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    Do materialists have a sense of humor?

    :)
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  27. DFH says:
    @Hyperborean

    My lucid comments are the most obvious and dull ones.
     
    Because of your endless repetition of simplistic clichés and facile solutions your pseudo-spiritual comments are actually the most dull.

    Is this an elaborate way of tying to smear Guénon and Eliade's memory?

    You avoided the question, if you use phrases such as 'you whites', does this mean Utu is right about you?

    Is this an elaborate way of tying to smear Guénon and Eliade’s memory?

    Guénon’s memory hardly needs smearing

    You avoided the question, if you use phrases such as ‘you whites’, does this mean Utu is right about you?

    He is Jewish

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  28. WHAT says:
    @DFH
    Wtf does any of this have to do with anglos?

    Because that blog is a perfect microcosm of anglo, duh.

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  29. notanon says:
    @Dmitry
    I realize this is a comedy text.

    But even in a comedy context - "neoliberalism" is a little distant from conspiracy theories on history of the Second World War.

    Neoliberalism is using the word "neo", because the word "liberal" was misapplied in the 20th century to refer to socialist ideas. Neoliberalism is referring to use of the original 19th century liberal policy, in the 20th century.

    This is building on a tradition of Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson, etc. In the 20th century, many ideas become refined to a more sophisticated level in the essays of Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, and the general Austrian School of Economy. The most important ideas are opposition to central planning, importance of freemarket capitalism, opposition to welfare state, and reduction of government.

    But even in a comedy context – “neoliberalism” is a little distant from conspiracy theories on history of the Second World War.

    neoliberalism = rule by the banking mafia – they use people like Adam Smith etc as a smoke screen.

    my WW2+neoliberalism conspiracy theory is…

    once upon a time (1912) the banking mafia wanted 90% control of both Russia and the West (at the same time) so they could use the combined power to impose global government with them in charge behind the scenes.

    in 1913 (federal reserve) they had say 20% control of the US but only say 5% control of Russia but after instigating WW1 to weaken the Tsar and then funding the Bolshevik coup by 1917 banking mafia control of Russia was up to around 90% – which explain why Wall St. funded the industrialization of the Soviet Union (so they could use it to attack Western Europe).

    (basically Mordor (Wall St.) funding Saruman in Isengard (Soviet Union) to build an army to attack Rohan)

    however then the Germans happened and invaded Russia forcing Stalin to bring back Russian patriotism to defend the motherland (and in the process maybe using that to put all his Bolshevik party rivals in the gulag?).

    post-war, as the banking mafia’s control of the west (particularly US/UK) grew stronger reaching c. 90% control by the 1980s (Thatcher/Reagan) at the same time their control of Russia was going down as a result of Stalin’s purges – hence them eventually bringing down the Soviet Union (by not subsidizing it any more) leading to them briefly regaining control of Russia again through the oligarchs.

    (i.e. the Cold War wasn’t USA vs Russia it was banking mafia vs both USA and Russia using whichever one they had most control over at the time to attack/weaken the other)

    the 1990s were probably peak banking mafia power hence the invention of the global warming scam to scare people into global government and permanent banking mafia rule (which would literally be hell btw as the banking mafia are distilled evil).

    and then it all started to go wrong due to its own internal contradictions and some random events
    - reality of hbd vis a vis diversity
    - inherent instability of moving production to one place leaving consumers in another
    - nationalist/populist reaction
    - jihadist reaction
    - Pooty

    hence why we’re currently teetering on the brink of WW3 as they desperately lunge for the ring.

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    neoliberalism = rule by the banking mafia – they use people like Adam Smith etc as a smoke screen.
     
    I don't see this.

    IMF, OECD, Credit Suisse, etc, represent more current "elite opinion", concordant with financial institutions. You can usually read their reports as PDFs published on their websites (they provide freely their viewpoints).

    Viewpoint of "elite opinion" from these places, as published in their reports, is intelligent, but it's not exactly neoliberal usually. There's usually quite a lot of support for government interventions.

    IMF and OECD reports often advise increasing government expenditure in different areas.

    While to understand neoliberal views of 20th century, you can easily watch on YouTube videos of Thatcher, Milton Friedman, Hayek and others.

    Their view is based on principles, and a kind of clear and simple logic, and usually quite with an attitude of "breaking icons". The success of their views has been well shown by history, and their viewpoints are quite simple and easily accessible for ordinary (non-elite) people.

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  30. AaronB says:
    @Hyperborean

    My lucid comments are the most obvious and dull ones.
     
    Because of your endless repetition of simplistic clichés and facile solutions your pseudo-spiritual comments are actually the most dull.

    Is this an elaborate way of tying to smear Guénon and Eliade's memory?

    You avoided the question, if you use phrases such as 'you whites', does this mean Utu is right about you?

    I though you knew I was half Jewish and half white. I definitely do not “identify” as white, or Jewish. You’re both pathetic groups these days, in different ways. And I’m definitely not a white supremacist lol.

    Utu just hates my guts because to him im Jewish. He used to be totally friendly to me until I revealed that I’m half Jewish. He also can’t stand that I refuse to hate blacks and Asians. Cantankerous old coot, that utu.

    Cliches, facile solutions, and pseudo spiritual comments need to be repeated endlessly to drill it into your thick skulls.

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  31. AaronB says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    I think he is succeeding in his ultimate goal of uniting everyone against him.

    Do materialists have a sense of humor?

    :)

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    Do materialists have a sense of humor?

    Fucking-A

    Nazis are the ones with no sense of humor. It is a good way to smokem out.

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  32. surly says:

    Would someone kindly explain “neoliberalism.txt”?

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    explaining internet memes is bad luck
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  33. DFH says:
    @Brabantian
    The key supporting claim in the Vox Day article is this:

    This conclusion would also explain why so many Stalin-era documents are still sealed and kept strictly off-limits from researchers despite the fall of the Soviet Union. What other historical secret would merit such keeping even after so many years?
     
    AK has himself written about how the late 1930s Stalinist purges, very much reduced the ranks of Jews in the upper levels of the Soviet State ... perhaps a factor in the general demonisation of Stalin afterwards by the significantly Jewish-influenced (or owned) Western media

    A commenter on Château Heartiste often refers to the Stalin purges of Jews, arguing that, like Stalin, before you purge the Jews, you actually have to purge the goys who are the 'true believers' in the Jewish-fostered ideologies ... which explains the 1930s Soviet trials, a bunch of 'true believers' implicating themselves, hooked into a mental doom-loop of fanaticism that leads them to 'confess' for the greater glory of the Cause

    On the other hand, the standard anti-Holocaust revisionist narratives, tend to blame Stalin for helping to create the alleged hoax, as if Stalin was the Zionist agent, e.g., this from Mike King at TomatoBubble:

    The original claim of the gas chambers of Auschwitz was made in May of 1945 by Joseph Stalin's Jewish-dominated 'Extraordinary State Commission', AFTER Germany's unconditional surrender. AGAIN, with neither investigation nor confirmation, Stalin's 'gas chambers' claim was publicised in the Jewish owned New York Times; the most "prestigious" newspaper in the world.
     
    It's also claimed Stalin ordered some 'rebuilding' of the camps with 'fake' crematoria chimneys etc.

    The 'still-sealed' Soviet archives - if that is the case - can be linked with another major WW2 case of hidden truths, that of Rudolf Hess, who died in 1987 as the lone prisoner in Spandau, after NEVER being allowed to tell historians or media or even his family, what was the real story of his 1941 plane trip to Scotland.

    It is said Gorbachev wanted to puncture the lie that it was the Soviets keeping Hess in prison, when actually it was the British - and when Gorbachev moved to release Hess, British agents came to the prison and murdered Hess, a claim in mainstream media with testimony from a surgeon, Hess' family, etc

    Sylvain Laforest on the Russia-tied Oriental Review, has a nicely-done 3-part series arguing that the truth they buried with Hess, and hid from the world via Hess' draconian life-long prison gagging, was tied to the well-known fact that in the 1930s, Hitler's 'economic miracle' was a result of heavy investments both from Wall Street and the City of London, Rothschilds etc.

    With the idea that Hitler and the Nazis were created as a war machine to serve the British-USA Anglo Empires, by not only making war upon Russia, but mauling France as well, given that the French were still fairly major rivals to the British at the time. It was the usual game of the Anglos trying to get the Continental Europeans to kill each other and weaken themselves.

    Laforest says this is why Hitler let the British forces escape at Dunkirk, when he could have wiped out or captured them. This is also why the British murderously destroyed the French fleet off the coast of Algeria in 1940, claims Laforest.

    Laforest makes an interesting argument that the USA double-crossed the British, and bribed or induced the Nazis to attack Britain, so that a global US-led empire would have no challenge from a rival Britain. Laforest believes that the Hess trip, was an offer from Hitler admitting the double-cross, and offering to withdraw from Western Europe and only go after Russia.

    Laforest notes that it was directly after the 1941 Hess mission - which made FDR realise that Hitler had now triple-crossed the USA instead of the British - that the USA started its big war-mongering against both Japan and Germany. And then after the war, there was general agreement to hide the fact that it was the oligarchs of the Anglo countries, who financed Hitler in the first place. A reasonable explanation of both Hess and the German 1930s 'economic miracle'.

    With the idea that Hitler and the Nazis were created as a war machine to serve the British-USA Anglo Empires, by not only making war upon Russia, but mauling France as well, given that the French were still fairly major rivals to the British at the time.

    And maybe Hitler was a Zionist agent put in place to ensure the creation of the state of Israel? You’d have to be a lunatic to believe this evidence-free nonsense. The cui bono of this conspiracy theory doesn’t even make sense.

    It was the usual game of the Anglos trying to get the Continental Europeans to kill each other and weaken themselves.

    No it was the ‘usual game’ of Britain being dragged unwillingly to stop a continental country dominating Europe through wars of agression (e.g. Louis XIV, Napoleon) and then anti-Anglo fantasists blaming Britain for stopping their fantasies of being dominated by French/Germans.

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  34. surly says:
    @AaronB
    And blah. Now your argument is complete. It always requires four blahs.

    No… Aristotle said only 3 blahs.

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    Well then we must defer to Aristotle then. Vox Day would approve.

    If blah, and blah, then blah.
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  35. notanon says:
    @surly
    Would someone kindly explain "neoliberalism.txt"?

    explaining internet memes is bad luck

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    explaining internet memes is bad luck
     
    I'm not too worried about my own bad luck and anyway I'm not explaining anything. My guess is that neoliberalism, the globalist worldview, is a text file; it's editable. It rewrites itself to its own advantage as it goes. It's a mutating virus.
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  36. AaronB says:
    @surly
    No... Aristotle said only 3 blahs.

    Well then we must defer to Aristotle then. Vox Day would approve.

    If blah, and blah, then blah.

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  37. surly says:
    @notanon
    explaining internet memes is bad luck

    explaining internet memes is bad luck

    I’m not too worried about my own bad luck and anyway I’m not explaining anything. My guess is that neoliberalism, the globalist worldview, is a text file; it’s editable. It rewrites itself to its own advantage as it goes. It’s a mutating virus.

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    It’s a mutating virus.
     
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  38. notanon says:
    @surly

    explaining internet memes is bad luck
     
    I'm not too worried about my own bad luck and anyway I'm not explaining anything. My guess is that neoliberalism, the globalist worldview, is a text file; it's editable. It rewrites itself to its own advantage as it goes. It's a mutating virus.

    It’s a mutating virus.

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  39. surly says:
    @AaronB
    Would it make a difference? All white people are tarred by the H. Whites in America are. Swedes are. Shifting blame to Russia would do nothing.

    It's a racial thing.

    Its all about symbolism. You can be selfish but you can't symbolically "stand" for selfishness.

    Jews act incredibly self-serving but symbolically "stand" for non-selfishness.

    Its this "doubleness" that you whites will never master because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.

    If we can convince people that we didn't materially commit the H, we'll be good,you simple mindedly think. But you will still have symbolically committed it. No one cares what you actuallydid.

    Why do whites symbolically stand for selfishess? Because those are the symbols you've chosen for yourselves.

    Capitalism, science, logic, materialism, world conquest. This is the White Flag, the symbols you've chosen to wrap yourselves in.

    What symbols have Jews chosen? Blacks? Asians?What are their flags?

    Jews are symbolically seen as being about justice and concern for the downtrodden. Blacks about "soul" and fun, Asians about strong family bonds exotic cultures and good food.

    Actual behavior represents fallible human nature and everyone forgives that - the symbols you choose for yourself represent your moral aspirations, and that is what you are judged by collectively. Not your actions, which always fall short. But your aspirations, expressed through your self chosen symbolic identity.

    And your symbolic identity is not random or arbitrary, but do represent your true aspirations.

    Whites can act selfishly and everyone will forgive them - but your moral aspirations can't be a candidly expressed selfishness. Then you "stand," for that, and no one will forgive you.

    So on the end, genuine change is required, and the focus on cosmetics is a flailing about in the dark.

    Overall this is a very good observation.

    Its this “doubleness” that you whites will never master because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.

    This is pretty good. Europeans are a broken masculine force, Jews a broken feminine force. After all…

    Jews act incredibly self-serving but symbolically “stand” for non-selfishness.

    If we can convince people that we didn’t materially commit the H, we’ll be good,you simple mindedly think. But you will still have symbolically committed it. No one cares what you actually did.

    Jews find a strong civilization, play indirect, feminine and manipulative games to get the upper hand. If they succeed, they use up the credit card until they get bored and find a stronger civilization, oh say China. https://www.haaretz.com/1.4920795

    Europeans didn’t help their cause when they culled out their own aggressive masculinity. https://www.vdare.com/articles/death-penalty.

    It’s like reading Cheateu Heartiste. The solipsism, gaslighting, narcissism, crazymaking BPD antics… it’s what you do when you’re a gal. Whites that want to regain their own self-respect will remember:

    You are an oak tree. You will not be manipulated by crying, yelling, lying, head games, … jealousy ploys, pity plays, shit tests, hot/cold/hot/cold, disappearing acts, or guilt trips. She will rain and thunder all around you… She will not drag you into her chaos or uproot you.

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

    I.e., We’re not the ex-lover that may or may not have abused you to the degree you endlessly rant about, though you like to tell stories and we couldn’t help but notice you also tend to exaggerate, so spare us. Leave if you don’t like it.

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  40. surly says:
    @AaronB
    Would it make a difference? All white people are tarred by the H. Whites in America are. Swedes are. Shifting blame to Russia would do nothing.

    It's a racial thing.

    Its all about symbolism. You can be selfish but you can't symbolically "stand" for selfishness.

    Jews act incredibly self-serving but symbolically "stand" for non-selfishness.

    Its this "doubleness" that you whites will never master because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.

    If we can convince people that we didn't materially commit the H, we'll be good,you simple mindedly think. But you will still have symbolically committed it. No one cares what you actuallydid.

    Why do whites symbolically stand for selfishess? Because those are the symbols you've chosen for yourselves.

    Capitalism, science, logic, materialism, world conquest. This is the White Flag, the symbols you've chosen to wrap yourselves in.

    What symbols have Jews chosen? Blacks? Asians?What are their flags?

    Jews are symbolically seen as being about justice and concern for the downtrodden. Blacks about "soul" and fun, Asians about strong family bonds exotic cultures and good food.

    Actual behavior represents fallible human nature and everyone forgives that - the symbols you choose for yourself represent your moral aspirations, and that is what you are judged by collectively. Not your actions, which always fall short. But your aspirations, expressed through your self chosen symbolic identity.

    And your symbolic identity is not random or arbitrary, but do represent your true aspirations.

    Whites can act selfishly and everyone will forgive them - but your moral aspirations can't be a candidly expressed selfishness. Then you "stand," for that, and no one will forgive you.

    So on the end, genuine change is required, and the focus on cosmetics is a flailing about in the dark.

    Its this “doubleness” that you whites will never master because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.

    This is pretty good, but needs a tweak. Europeans/whites aren’t wired for “doubleness”. Europeans are a broken masculine force, Jews a broken feminine force. After all…

    Jews act incredibly self-serving but symbolically “stand” for non-selfishness.

    If we can convince people that we didn’t materially commit the H, we’ll be good,you simple mindedly think. But you will still have symbolically committed it. No one cares what you actually did.

    Jews find a strong civilization, play indirect and manipulative games to get the upper hand. If they succeed, they get bored, use up the credit cards, then find someone stronger. Say China. https://www.haaretz.com/1.4920795

    Europeans didn’t help their cause when they culled out their own aggressiveness. https://www.vdare.com/articles/death-penalty.

    It’s like reading Cheateu Heartiste. The solipsism, gaslighting, narcissism, BPD antics… it’s what you do when you’re a broken gal, and betas can’t extract themselves from the crazy. Whites that want to regain their self-respect and autonomy will remember:

    You are an oak tree. You will not be manipulated by crying, yelling, lying, head games, … jealousy ploys, pity plays, shit tests, hot/cold/hot/cold, disappearing acts, or guilt trips. She will rain and thunder all around you… She will not drag you into her chaos or uproot you.

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

    I.e., Bitch all you want, we’re not the ex-lover that may or may not have abused you to the degree you endlessly rant about. So spare us. Leave if you don’t like it.

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  41. iffen says:
    @AaronB
    Do materialists have a sense of humor?

    :)

    Do materialists have a sense of humor?

    Fucking-A

    Nazis are the ones with no sense of humor. It is a good way to smokem out.

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  42. Max Payne says:

    Why shift blame? Both Germany AND the Soviet Union were part of the Holocaust. TWO cheques instead of one!

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  43. Anonymous[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @BlackFlag
    How much influence did Jews have in the Soviet government and NKVD during WW2?

    AK, can you explain why some of the commenters on Russia Insider day you're anti-russian? I visited the site and apparently there are all kinds of factions.

    Btw, I sent you a donation and an email.

    Anatoly, despite what he says, is basically a Zionist. And his Pro-Russia narratives are along the lines of doing what is best for Isreal.

    I think Anatoly has become sensitive to this and has toned it down a little. But there is a reason other Russians don’t trust him.

    The Saker and Andrei Martanyov clearly don’t trust or respect him.

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    "Other Russians" = Russians who don't even live in Russia. I can certainly do without their trust or respect, that you very much. Or that of some anonymous troll.
    , @Dmitry
    Saker is a pensioner from Switzerland. There's information about him on other websites.

    As for "Zionist" Karlin - he knows almost nothing about Israel, so chance he is Zionist almost nonexistent.

    When you are fan of a country, you naturally want to learn about it. Karlin does not know anything about Israel - even less than people like Greasy. So he is not a fanboy in that direction.

    Karlin knows a lot more about countries like Brazil. If you stay on the blog for a few months, you can see what the topics the blog is interested in are.

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  44. @Anonymous
    Anatoly, despite what he says, is basically a Zionist. And his Pro-Russia narratives are along the lines of doing what is best for Isreal.

    I think Anatoly has become sensitive to this and has toned it down a little. But there is a reason other Russians don't trust him.

    The Saker and Andrei Martanyov clearly don't trust or respect him.

    “Other Russians” = Russians who don’t even live in Russia. I can certainly do without their trust or respect, that you very much. Or that of some anonymous troll.

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  45. WHAT says:

    Anatoly “My people are basically niggers” Karlin
    ^_^

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  46. Mr. XYZ says:

    For a government that allegedly conducted the Holocaust, the Soviet Union must have sure been incompetent as Hell considering that over two million Jews were still alive in 1959! What explains this discrepancy other than the fact that the Germans who were the ones who actually committed the Holocaust and the fact that the Germans only managed to get their hands on about 2.5 out of about 4.5 million total Soviet Jews?

    Also, the Soviets didn’t occupy Poland and Hungary until 1944-1945 (by Poland, I mean Poland west of the Curzon Line)–by which point most Polish and Hungarian Jews had already been murdered. Thus, who else did it but the Nazis and their collaborators?

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  47. Dmitry says:
    @Anonymous
    Anatoly, despite what he says, is basically a Zionist. And his Pro-Russia narratives are along the lines of doing what is best for Isreal.

    I think Anatoly has become sensitive to this and has toned it down a little. But there is a reason other Russians don't trust him.

    The Saker and Andrei Martanyov clearly don't trust or respect him.

    Saker is a pensioner from Switzerland. There’s information about him on other websites.

    As for “Zionist” Karlin – he knows almost nothing about Israel, so chance he is Zionist almost nonexistent.

    When you are fan of a country, you naturally want to learn about it. Karlin does not know anything about Israel – even less than people like Greasy. So he is not a fanboy in that direction.

    Karlin knows a lot more about countries like Brazil. If you stay on the blog for a few months, you can see what the topics the blog is interested in are.

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    They have Zionism On The Brain. Dollars to peanuts he is some drooling boomer.

    The Saker lived in Switzerland, but is now based in Florida. In fairness, he is a White emigre who cannot reasonably be expected to pack his bags for Russia.

    Martyanov is another story. He left the USSR before its corpse was cold, but somehow feels himself very qualified to talk about patriotism etc.
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  48. Dmitry says:
    @notanon

    But even in a comedy context – “neoliberalism” is a little distant from conspiracy theories on history of the Second World War.
     
    neoliberalism = rule by the banking mafia - they use people like Adam Smith etc as a smoke screen.

    my WW2+neoliberalism conspiracy theory is...

    once upon a time (1912) the banking mafia wanted 90% control of both Russia and the West (at the same time) so they could use the combined power to impose global government with them in charge behind the scenes.

    in 1913 (federal reserve) they had say 20% control of the US but only say 5% control of Russia but after instigating WW1 to weaken the Tsar and then funding the Bolshevik coup by 1917 banking mafia control of Russia was up to around 90% - which explain why Wall St. funded the industrialization of the Soviet Union (so they could use it to attack Western Europe).

    (basically Mordor (Wall St.) funding Saruman in Isengard (Soviet Union) to build an army to attack Rohan)

    however then the Germans happened and invaded Russia forcing Stalin to bring back Russian patriotism to defend the motherland (and in the process maybe using that to put all his Bolshevik party rivals in the gulag?).

    post-war, as the banking mafia's control of the west (particularly US/UK) grew stronger reaching c. 90% control by the 1980s (Thatcher/Reagan) at the same time their control of Russia was going down as a result of Stalin's purges - hence them eventually bringing down the Soviet Union (by not subsidizing it any more) leading to them briefly regaining control of Russia again through the oligarchs.

    (i.e. the Cold War wasn't USA vs Russia it was banking mafia vs both USA and Russia using whichever one they had most control over at the time to attack/weaken the other)

    the 1990s were probably peak banking mafia power hence the invention of the global warming scam to scare people into global government and permanent banking mafia rule (which would literally be hell btw as the banking mafia are distilled evil).

    and then it all started to go wrong due to its own internal contradictions and some random events
    - reality of hbd vis a vis diversity
    - inherent instability of moving production to one place leaving consumers in another
    - nationalist/populist reaction
    - jihadist reaction
    - Pooty

    hence why we're currently teetering on the brink of WW3 as they desperately lunge for the ring.

    neoliberalism = rule by the banking mafia – they use people like Adam Smith etc as a smoke screen.

    I don’t see this.

    IMF, OECD, Credit Suisse, etc, represent more current “elite opinion”, concordant with financial institutions. You can usually read their reports as PDFs published on their websites (they provide freely their viewpoints).

    Viewpoint of “elite opinion” from these places, as published in their reports, is intelligent, but it’s not exactly neoliberal usually. There’s usually quite a lot of support for government interventions.

    IMF and OECD reports often advise increasing government expenditure in different areas.

    While to understand neoliberal views of 20th century, you can easily watch on YouTube videos of Thatcher, Milton Friedman, Hayek and others.

    Their view is based on principles, and a kind of clear and simple logic, and usually quite with an attitude of “breaking icons”. The success of their views has been well shown by history, and their viewpoints are quite simple and easily accessible for ordinary (non-elite) people.

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  49. @Dmitry
    Saker is a pensioner from Switzerland. There's information about him on other websites.

    As for "Zionist" Karlin - he knows almost nothing about Israel, so chance he is Zionist almost nonexistent.

    When you are fan of a country, you naturally want to learn about it. Karlin does not know anything about Israel - even less than people like Greasy. So he is not a fanboy in that direction.

    Karlin knows a lot more about countries like Brazil. If you stay on the blog for a few months, you can see what the topics the blog is interested in are.

    They have Zionism On The Brain. Dollars to peanuts he is some drooling boomer.

    The Saker lived in Switzerland, but is now based in Florida. In fairness, he is a White emigre who cannot reasonably be expected to pack his bags for Russia.

    Martyanov is another story. He left the USSR before its corpse was cold, but somehow feels himself very qualified to talk about patriotism etc.

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  50. @BlackFlag
    How much influence did Jews have in the Soviet government and NKVD during WW2?

    AK, can you explain why some of the commenters on Russia Insider day you're anti-russian? I visited the site and apparently there are all kinds of factions.

    Btw, I sent you a donation and an email.

    Thank you for your very kind and generous donation.

    How much influence did Jews have in the Soviet government and NKVD during WW2?

    Not much. It collapsed in the late 1930s.

    Russians(Ukrs, etc) – blue; Jews – red.

    AK, can you explain why some of the commenters on Russia Insider day you’re anti-russian? I visited the site and apparently there are all kinds of factions.

    I might be a bit biased. But I think it’s because many of them are illiterate cretins, and/or think Putin is the The Prince That Was Promised to finally destroy ZIONISM and are constantly inventing 666D CHESS theories for every new zrada (“betrayal”) that their Lord and God inflicts on them.

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    "Not much. It collapsed in the late 1930s."

    Ya I think Vox buys into "Stalinism is Russian Nationalism and its Awesome" myth. He is obsessed with Judeo-Bolshevism.
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  51. Anonymous[679] • Disclaimer says:
    @WHAT
    Can you provide a link to the absolute humiliation? Pompous blowhard being bantzed is a great entertainment.

    Original has been taken off Youtube, I think, but this seems like a basically identical copy:

    https://archive.org/details/youtube-cFyshlUgqjg

    It was indeed very satisfying to watch Anglin dunk on Vox, given how irritatingly pompous the latter is.

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    Great, thank you.
    , @BlackFlag
    I found it not satisfying at all. An ill-defined debate with lots of bad blood by two people who have done a lot of good. Tactics can añways be discussed.
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  52. @Anatoly Karlin
    Thank you for your very kind and generous donation.

    How much influence did Jews have in the Soviet government and NKVD during WW2?
     
    Not much. It collapsed in the late 1930s.

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/samolet73/18551660/194209/194209_original.jpg

    Russians(Ukrs, etc) - blue; Jews - red.

    AK, can you explain why some of the commenters on Russia Insider day you’re anti-russian? I visited the site and apparently there are all kinds of factions.
     
    I might be a bit biased. But I think it's because many of them are illiterate cretins, and/or think Putin is the The Prince That Was Promised to finally destroy ZIONISM and are constantly inventing 666D CHESS theories for every new zrada ("betrayal") that their Lord and God inflicts on them.

    “Not much. It collapsed in the late 1930s.”

    Ya I think Vox buys into “Stalinism is Russian Nationalism and its Awesome” myth. He is obsessed with Judeo-Bolshevism.

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  53. notanon says:

    on reflection although i can see how this could have happened on a small scale i think it suffers from the same problem revisionists go on about vis a vis the official narrative – what happened to all the bodies?

    i’d still be curious to know if the 20% casualty rate during the German occupation was across the board or it’s an average and the rate in the cities was higher – if so then if Solz was correct in his book that Jews moved en masse to the cities after 1917 then say a 30% urban casualty rate vs a 10% rural rate combined with an 80:20 vs 20:80 residence ratio could give a Jewish casualty rate of 26% vs a non-Jewish one of 14%.

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  54. WHAT says:
    @Anonymous
    Original has been taken off Youtube, I think, but this seems like a basically identical copy:
    https://archive.org/details/youtube-cFyshlUgqjg

    It was indeed very satisfying to watch Anglin dunk on Vox, given how irritatingly pompous the latter is.

    Great, thank you.

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  55. BlackFlag says:
    @Anonymous
    Original has been taken off Youtube, I think, but this seems like a basically identical copy:
    https://archive.org/details/youtube-cFyshlUgqjg

    It was indeed very satisfying to watch Anglin dunk on Vox, given how irritatingly pompous the latter is.

    I found it not satisfying at all. An ill-defined debate with lots of bad blood by two people who have done a lot of good. Tactics can añways be discussed.

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  56. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @AaronB
    Would it make a difference? All white people are tarred by the H. Whites in America are. Swedes are. Shifting blame to Russia would do nothing.

    It's a racial thing.

    Its all about symbolism. You can be selfish but you can't symbolically "stand" for selfishness.

    Jews act incredibly self-serving but symbolically "stand" for non-selfishness.

    Its this "doubleness" that you whites will never master because white culture only believes in one dimension, the material dimension.

    If we can convince people that we didn't materially commit the H, we'll be good,you simple mindedly think. But you will still have symbolically committed it. No one cares what you actuallydid.

    Why do whites symbolically stand for selfishess? Because those are the symbols you've chosen for yourselves.

    Capitalism, science, logic, materialism, world conquest. This is the White Flag, the symbols you've chosen to wrap yourselves in.

    What symbols have Jews chosen? Blacks? Asians?What are their flags?

    Jews are symbolically seen as being about justice and concern for the downtrodden. Blacks about "soul" and fun, Asians about strong family bonds exotic cultures and good food.

    Actual behavior represents fallible human nature and everyone forgives that - the symbols you choose for yourself represent your moral aspirations, and that is what you are judged by collectively. Not your actions, which always fall short. But your aspirations, expressed through your self chosen symbolic identity.

    And your symbolic identity is not random or arbitrary, but do represent your true aspirations.

    Whites can act selfishly and everyone will forgive them - but your moral aspirations can't be a candidly expressed selfishness. Then you "stand," for that, and no one will forgive you.

    So on the end, genuine change is required, and the focus on cosmetics is a flailing about in the dark.

    Who should change what? And, optionally, how?

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