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I’ll have a more serious post on this soon enough, but for now, reactions from some of the more important and interesting players.

White House

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Although they are present, the “anti-globalist” crowd – Steve Bannon and his allies, Stephen Miller and Michael Anton – are relegated to the back, while the likes of Jared Kushner occupy a much more central position. (Isn’t Kremlinology fun?)

This might be relevant since even the NYT has painted this as a battle between Kushner and Bannon, which the former won.

Countries

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Conveniently summarized in this NYT map.

Russia’s, Syria’s, and Iran’s responses have been tough, while the Western Europeans, Turkey, the Gulf states, Israel, Justin Trudeau, and Ukraine fell in in behind Trump. All of this is predictable.

The strike appears to have been ordered at around the same time that Trump was meeting with Xi Jinping, which would make it a remarkably barefaced power play. Now I know that China is Russia’s friend only by convenience (and vice versa), but still, the lack of a condemnation is rather surprising even by China’s usually milquetoast standards. I would note that even the usually combatatitive Global Times has stayed neutralish.

The Establishment

Needless to say, the neocons were overjoyed at the return of the prodigal son:

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As neocons-in-all-but-name, so of course were the neoliberal interventionists, with one “innovation” – led by Hillary Clinton herself, they are explicitly tying their support for Trump’s “invade” agenda with the eternal flip side of that coin, “invite.”

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Whether or not this constitutes a true “zrada,” or betrayal, on Trump’s part, I am afraid he has opened a Pandora’s box that will not be closed anytime soon. For instance, bigwig CNN journalist was already posing the question to Ivanka:

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The journalists have fallen in line:

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That said, for the most diehard proponents of the ROG conspiracy, such as Louise Mensch, this was just one more ploy by Putler’s puppet to get her off the Russia trail:

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Jeffrey Goldberg and Julia Ioffe:

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More principled libertarian and nationalist politicians such as Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Nigel Farage, and Marine Le Pen expressed reservations.

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Neocons

Rick Wilson:

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Bill Kristol:

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Tweets of Note

Sentiment here ranges from deep unease to outright disavowal.

The biggest critic of Donald Trump’s decision was Donald Trump himself, t minus 4 years.

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Based Taleb:taleb-on-journos

Ann Coulter’s defection – possibly the most influential figure in the Alt Light-sphere – has been particularly striking:

coulter-syria-wtfcoulter-syria-culmination-of-zrada Richard Spencer, who has long been relatively skeptical on Trump, minced no words:

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Paul Joseph Watson has thrown in his MAGA hat:watson-syria-off-the-train

To be sure, some people such as Mike Cernovich had a 4d chess hypothesis ready to go:

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Partisangirl was more skeptical:partisangirl-chess-wotlul

Mat Forney:

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The zrada was strong with Hunter Wallace:

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And with Peter Brimelow, or whoever runs the VDARE account:

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The arcanest of the arcane, Runglish #frogtwitter:

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Nick Land:

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As for myself, I think its time to transition from frogs to Baathism:

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Though TBF it was always inevitable:

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  1. Glossy says: • Website

    In the situation room pic, what are the black-and-white rectangular devices on the table?

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    Maybe they're jamming devices designed to stop people from intercepting the wireless signals inside the room. I'm just guessing.
    , @El Dato
    Either lizard mind control devices or some part of the videoconferencing gear.

    I took a look at

    http://electrospaces.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-presidential-communications.html

    but 404, these seem to be Trump-specific.
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  2. 5371 says:

    What do you have to be smoking to think China would be intimidated by something as feeble as this?

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    Especially if it is known to be a demo operation.
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  3. Glossy says: • Website
    @Glossy
    In the situation room pic, what are the black-and-white rectangular devices on the table?

    Maybe they’re jamming devices designed to stop people from intercepting the wireless signals inside the room. I’m just guessing.

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  4. El Dato says:
    @5371
    What do you have to be smoking to think China would be intimidated by something as feeble as this?

    Especially if it is known to be a demo operation.

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  5. El Dato says:
    @Glossy
    In the situation room pic, what are the black-and-white rectangular devices on the table?

    Either lizard mind control devices or some part of the videoconferencing gear.

    I took a look at

    http://electrospaces.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-presidential-communications.html

    but 404, these seem to be Trump-specific.

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  6. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    China’s problem here is that the Chinese leader was visiting Trump when Trump made the decision to attack Syria.

    transition from frogs to Baathism

    Baathism is too Islamic.
    Zrada, Karlin, Zrada.

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    China’s problem here is that the Chinese leader was visiting Trump when Trump made the decision to attack Syria.
     
    Yes, and probably he's not the kind of guy who makes an offhand remark which could damage (already damaged) relations further.

    It might also be that he was highly displeased with what many perceived to be Trump's bromance with Putin, especially since Trump was campaigning on an explicitly anti-China platform. So now that the tables seem to be turning, he's a bit cooler to Russia than would otherwise be.
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  7. truthman says:

    I read recently that Mnuchin and Wilbur Ross are Bannon allies in the Trump cabinet, or at least have good relations with him. Mnuchin seems a bit surprising for that role.

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  8. ussr andy says:

    “Russian-style mnogokhodovka vs zrada discourse”

    in other words, conspiracy-mongering and everything that is wrong with post-Enlightenment politics. sad. I think this is a deterioration of the public discourse, especially for the West. this is late-Roman stuff.

    are there actually cases when what looked like flip-flopping turned out to have been 4D chess?

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    are there actually cases when what looked like flip-flopping turned out to have been 4D chess?
     
    I frankly doubt that anyone in the politosphere can even reasonably sustain 2-dimensional chess (or even Go, for that matter). Things are just too messy. Texas Hold Them, maybe?

    We may have to await our Artificial Superintelligence overlords.
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  9. ussr andy says:

    the “stand on desk” tweet is genius.

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  10. El Dato says:
    @ussr andy
    "Russian-style mnogokhodovka vs zrada discourse"

    in other words, conspiracy-mongering and everything that is wrong with post-Enlightenment politics. sad. I think this is a deterioration of the public discourse, especially for the West. this is late-Roman stuff.

    are there actually cases when what looked like flip-flopping turned out to have been 4D chess?

    are there actually cases when what looked like flip-flopping turned out to have been 4D chess?

    I frankly doubt that anyone in the politosphere can even reasonably sustain 2-dimensional chess (or even Go, for that matter). Things are just too messy. Texas Hold Them, maybe?

    We may have to await our Artificial Superintelligence overlords.

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    Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin are both excellent chess players, actually.
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    are there actually cases when what looked like flip-flopping turned out to have been 4D chess?
     
    I frankly doubt that anyone in the politosphere can even reasonably sustain 2-dimensional chess (or even Go, for that matter). Things are just too messy. Texas Hold Them, maybe?

    We may have to await our Artificial Superintelligence overlords.

    Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin are both excellent chess players, actually.

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    • Replies: @Glossy
    Kasparov is an even more excellent chess player, but fortunately for mankind his efforts to influence politics have been about as futile as Curtis Yarvin's.
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  12. Glossy says: • Website
    @Daniel Chieh
    Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin are both excellent chess players, actually.

    Kasparov is an even more excellent chess player, but fortunately for mankind his efforts to influence politics have been about as futile as Curtis Yarvin’s.

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    Great chess players seem to always make terrible and ineffective politicians. Kasparov is not the only example.
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  13. Eee says:
    @Glossy
    Kasparov is an even more excellent chess player, but fortunately for mankind his efforts to influence politics have been about as futile as Curtis Yarvin's.

    Great chess players seem to always make terrible and ineffective politicians. Kasparov is not the only example.

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  14. reiner Tor says: • Website
    @Anon
    China's problem here is that the Chinese leader was visiting Trump when Trump made the decision to attack Syria.

    transition from frogs to Baathism
     
    Baathism is too Islamic.
    Zrada, Karlin, Zrada.

    China’s problem here is that the Chinese leader was visiting Trump when Trump made the decision to attack Syria.

    Yes, and probably he’s not the kind of guy who makes an offhand remark which could damage (already damaged) relations further.

    It might also be that he was highly displeased with what many perceived to be Trump’s bromance with Putin, especially since Trump was campaigning on an explicitly anti-China platform. So now that the tables seem to be turning, he’s a bit cooler to Russia than would otherwise be.

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  15. reiner Tor says: • Website

    Greatest 4d chess explanation for Trump’s Syria turnaround.

    Trump probably realized he’d need dictatorial powers to drain the swamp. He also realized he’d need the same to stop immigration. Possibly he also realized he’d need to actually reverse much of the post-1965 immigration to MAGA. But he realized he has no power to do all these.

    4d chess: like Skynet, he attacks Russia (probably sending nukes the way of China in the meantime), who in turn will destroy his enemies in DC, also NYC, LA and countless other big cities with their huge liberal and immigrant populations, maybe accomplishing the same for European countries, too. It will also make it easy for him to assume dictatorial powers.

    The end result will be God Emperor Trump ruling over the ruins and a much whiter population.

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    He shall be called Immortan Trump.
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  18. @reiner Tor
    Greatest 4d chess explanation for Trump's Syria turnaround.

    Trump probably realized he'd need dictatorial powers to drain the swamp. He also realized he'd need the same to stop immigration. Possibly he also realized he'd need to actually reverse much of the post-1965 immigration to MAGA. But he realized he has no power to do all these.

    4d chess: like Skynet, he attacks Russia (probably sending nukes the way of China in the meantime), who in turn will destroy his enemies in DC, also NYC, LA and countless other big cities with their huge liberal and immigrant populations, maybe accomplishing the same for European countries, too. It will also make it easy for him to assume dictatorial powers.

    The end result will be God Emperor Trump ruling over the ruins and a much whiter population.

    He shall be called Immortan Trump.

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