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1,000 children may have been victims in Britain’s biggest ever child abuse scandal

Hundreds of children, some as young as 11, are estimated to have been drugged, beaten and raped over a 40-year period in the town of Telford.

I haven’t even heard of this city before this. Wiki says it has 150,000 people.

Anyhow, the really important thing is that British police reacted quickly and operatively to not allow a couple of right-wing chicks into the UK.

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I don’t know about you, but I personally think that this is tax money getting put to very good use (as opposed to tackling rape gangs, or cell phone thieves, etc.).

 
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  1. What percentage are Pakistanis and South Asian muslims of Telford’s total population? This underlines the fact that you don’t need a high percentage of 3rd worlders for significant damage to be done. In Rotherham, the Pakistanis & South Asian muslims were just a few percent of the overall population, too.

    It makes you wonder if similar things aren’t happening in other Western European countries too, but maybe by turks or arabs instead. I see a lot of gloating on social media against “cuck island” and to be sure, the UK is a contemptible place these days. Still, I wonder how much of this stuff is happening elsewhere but is covered up. I’m not at all sure the UK is doing particularly worse than other Western European countries in this regard.

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    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    This relates to a 40 year period - since the 1970s. The vast majority of abuse relates to children in care. Here, you have to deal with the Social Workers in charge. In England, their attitude has been notoriously permissive for decades - " if the kids want to do it, let them do it". This leaves lots of children at danger of physical and moral harm.
    Children's social workers in England certainly are much more permissive than elsewhere in the UK. But there are still proper legal authorities in England that regard these things for what they are - crimes.

    "Still, I wonder how much of this stuff is happening elsewhere but is covered up."

    The authories in places like Holland and France are much more permissive. They wouldn't accept that crimes had taken place in most cases. And as for Belgium........

    , @John Gruskos
    Every other major European or European derived nation has a significant political party which explicitly considers mass 3rd world immigration to be a problem.

    The UK is the only major nation which lacks a sizable political movement explicitly opposed to mass 3rd world immigration.

    Why? Because the UK is, by far, the least-free nation within European Christian civilization.

    Dissidents are swiftly and cruelly attacked by the Orwellian establishment.

    , @for-the-record
    What percentage are Pakistanis and South Asian muslims of Telford’s total population? This underlines the fact that you don’t need a high percentage of 3rd worlders for significant damage to be done

    Telford's population is predominantly White, comprising 93.8% of the population. The next largest ethnic group is those of Asian descent, comprising 3.3% of the population, which is again less than the West Midlands at 8.0%, and England at 5.3%.
     
    , @German_reader

    It makes you wonder if similar things aren’t happening in other Western European countries too, but maybe by turks
     
    I doubt something on the same scale has happened in Germany, and while I don't like Turks that much as a collective I have difficulty imagining Turks in Germany doing something of the sort. There have been some media reports about so-called "lover boys" (young men who make teenage girls dependent on them and then force them into prostitution), but it's unclear how much of a problem it is. The perpetrators in media reports I've read are described as Moroccans or other kinds of Arabs (similarly in the Netherlands where some of their blacks from the West Indies also seem to be involved in this kind of thing), but it's again unclear how representative that is.
    Britain really seems to be especially bad (it also has the most radical Muslims in all of Europe according to polls and surveys), but it's of course quite likely that given current trends exactly the same will happen in many parts of continental Europe.
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  2. @Polish Perspective
    What percentage are Pakistanis and South Asian muslims of Telford's total population? This underlines the fact that you don't need a high percentage of 3rd worlders for significant damage to be done. In Rotherham, the Pakistanis & South Asian muslims were just a few percent of the overall population, too.

    It makes you wonder if similar things aren't happening in other Western European countries too, but maybe by turks or arabs instead. I see a lot of gloating on social media against "cuck island" and to be sure, the UK is a contemptible place these days. Still, I wonder how much of this stuff is happening elsewhere but is covered up. I'm not at all sure the UK is doing particularly worse than other Western European countries in this regard.

    This relates to a 40 year period – since the 1970s. The vast majority of abuse relates to children in care. Here, you have to deal with the Social Workers in charge. In England, their attitude has been notoriously permissive for decades – ” if the kids want to do it, let them do it”. This leaves lots of children at danger of physical and moral harm.
    Children’s social workers in England certainly are much more permissive than elsewhere in the UK. But there are still proper legal authorities in England that regard these things for what they are – crimes.

    “Still, I wonder how much of this stuff is happening elsewhere but is covered up.”

    The authories in places like Holland and France are much more permissive. They wouldn’t accept that crimes had taken place in most cases. And as for Belgium……..

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    you have to deal with the Social Workers in charge
     
    You're trying really hard to avoid the religious and racial implications here. To be sure, the social workers are guilty of turning a blind eye, but they are not the only villains in this story. From the Telegraph's news article:

    It is also claimed that abused and trafficked children were considered "prostitutes" by council staff, that authorities did not keep details of abusers from Asian communities for fear of being accused of "racism" and that police failed to investigate one recent case five times until an MP intervened.
     
    There is a racial and religious dimension here, just as in Rotherham. It may not be the only dimension, but it is an important one, and trying to completely avoid it like you are is suspicious.
    , @Philip Owen
    Yes. 40 years and the estimate is a back projection of a small sample to a time when Telford was much smaller (it is a purposely built new town) and not a centre for immigration. Telford is very working class, the posh people live in Shrewsbury. That was probably a factor.
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  3. @Polish Perspective
    What percentage are Pakistanis and South Asian muslims of Telford's total population? This underlines the fact that you don't need a high percentage of 3rd worlders for significant damage to be done. In Rotherham, the Pakistanis & South Asian muslims were just a few percent of the overall population, too.

    It makes you wonder if similar things aren't happening in other Western European countries too, but maybe by turks or arabs instead. I see a lot of gloating on social media against "cuck island" and to be sure, the UK is a contemptible place these days. Still, I wonder how much of this stuff is happening elsewhere but is covered up. I'm not at all sure the UK is doing particularly worse than other Western European countries in this regard.

    Every other major European or European derived nation has a significant political party which explicitly considers mass 3rd world immigration to be a problem.

    The UK is the only major nation which lacks a sizable political movement explicitly opposed to mass 3rd world immigration.

    Why? Because the UK is, by far, the least-free nation within European Christian civilization.

    Dissidents are swiftly and cruelly attacked by the Orwellian establishment.

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  4. @Polish Perspective
    What percentage are Pakistanis and South Asian muslims of Telford's total population? This underlines the fact that you don't need a high percentage of 3rd worlders for significant damage to be done. In Rotherham, the Pakistanis & South Asian muslims were just a few percent of the overall population, too.

    It makes you wonder if similar things aren't happening in other Western European countries too, but maybe by turks or arabs instead. I see a lot of gloating on social media against "cuck island" and to be sure, the UK is a contemptible place these days. Still, I wonder how much of this stuff is happening elsewhere but is covered up. I'm not at all sure the UK is doing particularly worse than other Western European countries in this regard.

    What percentage are Pakistanis and South Asian muslims of Telford’s total population? This underlines the fact that you don’t need a high percentage of 3rd worlders for significant damage to be done

    Telford’s population is predominantly White, comprising 93.8% of the population. The next largest ethnic group is those of Asian descent, comprising 3.3% of the population, which is again less than the West Midlands at 8.0%, and England at 5.3%.

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  5. “Insight tensions”: When ideas are introduced that run counter to the official narrative you’re liable to get insight tensions. Not good.

    The old social compact of Western civilization, centered on the value of human dignity, enshrined by way of civil liberties, supportive of a constitutional republic, is passe’.

    A new compact, in good keeping with a burgeoning Custodial State, is on the horizon. Here the aim is that all – with an emphasis on those deemed most vulnerable – may by way of all reasonable means of technology and government be as free as possible of discomfort.

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  6. @Polish Perspective
    What percentage are Pakistanis and South Asian muslims of Telford's total population? This underlines the fact that you don't need a high percentage of 3rd worlders for significant damage to be done. In Rotherham, the Pakistanis & South Asian muslims were just a few percent of the overall population, too.

    It makes you wonder if similar things aren't happening in other Western European countries too, but maybe by turks or arabs instead. I see a lot of gloating on social media against "cuck island" and to be sure, the UK is a contemptible place these days. Still, I wonder how much of this stuff is happening elsewhere but is covered up. I'm not at all sure the UK is doing particularly worse than other Western European countries in this regard.

    It makes you wonder if similar things aren’t happening in other Western European countries too, but maybe by turks

    I doubt something on the same scale has happened in Germany, and while I don’t like Turks that much as a collective I have difficulty imagining Turks in Germany doing something of the sort. There have been some media reports about so-called “lover boys” (young men who make teenage girls dependent on them and then force them into prostitution), but it’s unclear how much of a problem it is. The perpetrators in media reports I’ve read are described as Moroccans or other kinds of Arabs (similarly in the Netherlands where some of their blacks from the West Indies also seem to be involved in this kind of thing), but it’s again unclear how representative that is.
    Britain really seems to be especially bad (it also has the most radical Muslims in all of Europe according to polls and surveys), but it’s of course quite likely that given current trends exactly the same will happen in many parts of continental Europe.

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    Britain really seems to be especially bad.

    If memoirs of famous British men are anything to go by, the attitude to sexual abuse at public schools for boys was always permissive. When I've asked British friends if this is still a problem, they shift uncomfortably and say it's better than it used to be. So it is possible that the British are either particularly permissive or particularly unwilling to talk about these kinds of problems.

    I have difficulty imagining Turks in Germany doing something of the sort.

    Yeah, I've always imagined them as more interested in smuggling yogurt or giving illicit hair-cuts.

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  7. @German_reader

    It makes you wonder if similar things aren’t happening in other Western European countries too, but maybe by turks
     
    I doubt something on the same scale has happened in Germany, and while I don't like Turks that much as a collective I have difficulty imagining Turks in Germany doing something of the sort. There have been some media reports about so-called "lover boys" (young men who make teenage girls dependent on them and then force them into prostitution), but it's unclear how much of a problem it is. The perpetrators in media reports I've read are described as Moroccans or other kinds of Arabs (similarly in the Netherlands where some of their blacks from the West Indies also seem to be involved in this kind of thing), but it's again unclear how representative that is.
    Britain really seems to be especially bad (it also has the most radical Muslims in all of Europe according to polls and surveys), but it's of course quite likely that given current trends exactly the same will happen in many parts of continental Europe.

    Britain really seems to be especially bad.

    If memoirs of famous British men are anything to go by, the attitude to sexual abuse at public schools for boys was always permissive. When I’ve asked British friends if this is still a problem, they shift uncomfortably and say it’s better than it used to be. So it is possible that the British are either particularly permissive or particularly unwilling to talk about these kinds of problems.

    I have difficulty imagining Turks in Germany doing something of the sort.

    Yeah, I’ve always imagined them as more interested in smuggling yogurt or giving illicit hair-cuts.

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    • Replies: @German_reader
    I'd suspect there's also a very large class issue in those cases in Britain...the former working class seems to be in an especially bad state in Britain, and liberal "elites" there don't care much if the white underclass suffers...it's not the children of metropolitan liberals after all who get "groomed" into sex slavery.
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  8. Whats worse is how the US government has no problem with its own citizens being detained and expelled by supposed allies. The media is trying its best to keep this from being made news, imagine if Trump tweeted about this.

    I must also add that Karlin could also be getting the same treatment as things get ever worse, he is Russian and writes for Unz.com, I am surprised he wasn’t detained for his recent visit.

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    I must also add that Karlin could also be getting the same treatment as things get ever worse, he is Russian and writes for Unz.com, I am surprised he wasn’t detained for his recent visit.

     

    They'll never do any real action to stop Russians getting visas to the UK.

    Because it's money of Russians which is helping to keep the British economy still alive.
    , @Lex
    Does US let in just anyone from allied countries? Why would other countries be forced to accept some American riffraff on their soil?
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  9. @The Big Red Scary
    Britain really seems to be especially bad.

    If memoirs of famous British men are anything to go by, the attitude to sexual abuse at public schools for boys was always permissive. When I've asked British friends if this is still a problem, they shift uncomfortably and say it's better than it used to be. So it is possible that the British are either particularly permissive or particularly unwilling to talk about these kinds of problems.

    I have difficulty imagining Turks in Germany doing something of the sort.

    Yeah, I've always imagined them as more interested in smuggling yogurt or giving illicit hair-cuts.

    I’d suspect there’s also a very large class issue in those cases in Britain…the former working class seems to be in an especially bad state in Britain, and liberal “elites” there don’t care much if the white underclass suffers…it’s not the children of metropolitan liberals after all who get “groomed” into sex slavery.

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    I’d suspect there’s also a very large class issue in those cases in Britain

    Yes, this is part of it. But it’s even worse than that, since the public schools are precisely where the British elites send their own boys. So prostitution for the plebs and pederasty for the patricians.
    , @dfordoom

    the former working class seems to be in an especially bad state in Britain, and liberal “elites” there don’t care much if the white underclass suffers…
     
    In fact they want to see the white underclass suffer as much as possible. Their attitude is not just indifference but virulent hatred.

    Everything in Britain comes down to class. Actually everything everywhere comes down to class, but it's especially true of Britain.
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  10. @neutral
    Whats worse is how the US government has no problem with its own citizens being detained and expelled by supposed allies. The media is trying its best to keep this from being made news, imagine if Trump tweeted about this.

    I must also add that Karlin could also be getting the same treatment as things get ever worse, he is Russian and writes for Unz.com, I am surprised he wasn't detained for his recent visit.

    I must also add that Karlin could also be getting the same treatment as things get ever worse, he is Russian and writes for Unz.com, I am surprised he wasn’t detained for his recent visit.

    They’ll never do any real action to stop Russians getting visas to the UK.

    Because it’s money of Russians which is helping to keep the British economy still alive.

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  11. There are two ways to look at this.

    The first is the obvious way that the regime knows that free speech imperils it, and how any multicult ideology always imperils free speech.

    The second is slightly more insidious. Holding and harassing these few who were visiting Britain is really just a facet of how the more general immigration policy in the West is by design antiwhite.

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  12. @German_reader
    I'd suspect there's also a very large class issue in those cases in Britain...the former working class seems to be in an especially bad state in Britain, and liberal "elites" there don't care much if the white underclass suffers...it's not the children of metropolitan liberals after all who get "groomed" into sex slavery.

    I’d suspect there’s also a very large class issue in those cases in Britain

    Yes, this is part of it. But it’s even worse than that, since the public schools are precisely where the British elites send their own boys. So prostitution for the plebs and pederasty for the patricians.

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  13. @Verymuchalive
    This relates to a 40 year period - since the 1970s. The vast majority of abuse relates to children in care. Here, you have to deal with the Social Workers in charge. In England, their attitude has been notoriously permissive for decades - " if the kids want to do it, let them do it". This leaves lots of children at danger of physical and moral harm.
    Children's social workers in England certainly are much more permissive than elsewhere in the UK. But there are still proper legal authorities in England that regard these things for what they are - crimes.

    "Still, I wonder how much of this stuff is happening elsewhere but is covered up."

    The authories in places like Holland and France are much more permissive. They wouldn't accept that crimes had taken place in most cases. And as for Belgium........

    you have to deal with the Social Workers in charge

    You’re trying really hard to avoid the religious and racial implications here. To be sure, the social workers are guilty of turning a blind eye, but they are not the only villains in this story. From the Telegraph’s news article:

    It is also claimed that abused and trafficked children were considered “prostitutes” by council staff, that authorities did not keep details of abusers from Asian communities for fear of being accused of “racism” and that police failed to investigate one recent case five times until an MP intervened.

    There is a racial and religious dimension here, just as in Rotherham. It may not be the only dimension, but it is an important one, and trying to completely avoid it like you are is suspicious.

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  14. As you can tell by my misspelled username, I’m familiar with Telford. It’s an utterly unremarkable town, and it’s proportion of Pakistanis is quite low – about 3% of the town, about 5000 Pakistani-origin people. Which makes it incredible that there are 1000 victims. That’s 10 victims for every 25 men. There’s quarter of a million Pakistani-origin man in the UK, which might mean there are over 100 thousand victims. And plenty more victims from other groups – Somalis, North Africans, Syrians etc.

    And for the BBC, it’s not a story.

    See ‘Localised grooming’ here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Child_sexual_abuse_in_the_UK

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    Pretty clear that in these towns nearly every Pakistani who isn't too decrepit or too female is involved in this.
    , @Philip Owen
    But how many Pakistanis were in Telford in the late 1970's? The claims go back this far. That was before the motorway was built. Telford was much smaller then. What do you remember 40 years ago?
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  15. @neutral
    Whats worse is how the US government has no problem with its own citizens being detained and expelled by supposed allies. The media is trying its best to keep this from being made news, imagine if Trump tweeted about this.

    I must also add that Karlin could also be getting the same treatment as things get ever worse, he is Russian and writes for Unz.com, I am surprised he wasn't detained for his recent visit.

    Does US let in just anyone from allied countries? Why would other countries be forced to accept some American riffraff on their soil?

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  16. The solution is two-fold:
    1) Stop incoming immigration.
    2) For those who are already there – make illegal any relationship between a Muslim man (of any origin) and non-Muslim females – any fraternization is immediately penalized (more so for native British females).

    Then basically the harassment/molestation will become a native British Droog thing and that can be dealt with on its own.

    It’s not difficult if they have the will to implement it.

    Peace.

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    1) Stop incoming immigration.

     

    The business elites won't stand for it, because it would shift supply and demand in favour of their employees, changing the balance of power between employers and workers and eating into their profits, and the ideological left won't stand for it because it would take away their chance to "rub the right's noses in diversity" and destroy any remnants of the cultural unity that stands in the way of reshaping society. So both the mainstream political parties of left and of "right" (ie both parties of government for most of the past century) will not countenance it.

    So it won't happen, unless there is what would amount to a political revolution. Which isn't looking particularly likely at the moment.

    2) For those who are already there – make illegal any relationship between a Muslim man (of any origin) and non-Muslim females – any fraternization is immediately penalized (more so for native British females).
     
    This would require the leftist elites to effectively admit that some of their core multicultural dogmas have been disastrously wrong, and abandon them. Humans never do that easily, leftist ideologues especially. And the leftist grip on the cultural and media high ground is pretty much as complete here as it is in the US.

    So again, it won't happen without revolutionary political change.

    It’s not difficult if they have the will to implement it.
     
    Those with the power to make it happen don't have the will (or any real interest in doing so), and those with the will lack the power.
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  17. @German_reader
    I'd suspect there's also a very large class issue in those cases in Britain...the former working class seems to be in an especially bad state in Britain, and liberal "elites" there don't care much if the white underclass suffers...it's not the children of metropolitan liberals after all who get "groomed" into sex slavery.

    the former working class seems to be in an especially bad state in Britain, and liberal “elites” there don’t care much if the white underclass suffers…

    In fact they want to see the white underclass suffer as much as possible. Their attitude is not just indifference but virulent hatred.

    Everything in Britain comes down to class. Actually everything everywhere comes down to class, but it’s especially true of Britain.

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  18. @Talha
    The solution is two-fold:
    1) Stop incoming immigration.
    2) For those who are already there - make illegal any relationship between a Muslim man (of any origin) and non-Muslim females - any fraternization is immediately penalized (more so for native British females).

    Then basically the harassment/molestation will become a native British Droog thing and that can be dealt with on its own.

    It's not difficult if they have the will to implement it.

    Peace.

    1) Stop incoming immigration.

    The business elites won’t stand for it, because it would shift supply and demand in favour of their employees, changing the balance of power between employers and workers and eating into their profits, and the ideological left won’t stand for it because it would take away their chance to “rub the right’s noses in diversity” and destroy any remnants of the cultural unity that stands in the way of reshaping society. So both the mainstream political parties of left and of “right” (ie both parties of government for most of the past century) will not countenance it.

    So it won’t happen, unless there is what would amount to a political revolution. Which isn’t looking particularly likely at the moment.

    2) For those who are already there – make illegal any relationship between a Muslim man (of any origin) and non-Muslim females – any fraternization is immediately penalized (more so for native British females).

    This would require the leftist elites to effectively admit that some of their core multicultural dogmas have been disastrously wrong, and abandon them. Humans never do that easily, leftist ideologues especially. And the leftist grip on the cultural and media high ground is pretty much as complete here as it is in the US.

    So again, it won’t happen without revolutionary political change.

    It’s not difficult if they have the will to implement it.

    Those with the power to make it happen don’t have the will (or any real interest in doing so), and those with the will lack the power.

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    Hey Randal,

    Well, I was hoping to simply outline a simple game plan. Party pooper...

    Peace.
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  19. @Randal

    1) Stop incoming immigration.

     

    The business elites won't stand for it, because it would shift supply and demand in favour of their employees, changing the balance of power between employers and workers and eating into their profits, and the ideological left won't stand for it because it would take away their chance to "rub the right's noses in diversity" and destroy any remnants of the cultural unity that stands in the way of reshaping society. So both the mainstream political parties of left and of "right" (ie both parties of government for most of the past century) will not countenance it.

    So it won't happen, unless there is what would amount to a political revolution. Which isn't looking particularly likely at the moment.

    2) For those who are already there – make illegal any relationship between a Muslim man (of any origin) and non-Muslim females – any fraternization is immediately penalized (more so for native British females).
     
    This would require the leftist elites to effectively admit that some of their core multicultural dogmas have been disastrously wrong, and abandon them. Humans never do that easily, leftist ideologues especially. And the leftist grip on the cultural and media high ground is pretty much as complete here as it is in the US.

    So again, it won't happen without revolutionary political change.

    It’s not difficult if they have the will to implement it.
     
    Those with the power to make it happen don't have the will (or any real interest in doing so), and those with the will lack the power.

    Hey Randal,

    Well, I was hoping to simply outline a simple game plan. Party pooper…

    Peace.

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    It didn't comport with my defeatist inclinations, born of living through the long defeat of sanity and the political right (but I repeat myself) in the late C20th and early C21st .... :-)
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  20. @TelfoedJohn
    As you can tell by my misspelled username, I'm familiar with Telford. It's an utterly unremarkable town, and it's proportion of Pakistanis is quite low - about 3% of the town, about 5000 Pakistani-origin people. Which makes it incredible that there are 1000 victims. That's 10 victims for every 25 men. There's quarter of a million Pakistani-origin man in the UK, which might mean there are over 100 thousand victims. And plenty more victims from other groups - Somalis, North Africans, Syrians etc.

    And for the BBC, it's not a story.

    See 'Localised grooming' here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Child_sexual_abuse_in_the_UK

    Pretty clear that in these towns nearly every Pakistani who isn’t too decrepit or too female is involved in this.

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  21. @Verymuchalive
    This relates to a 40 year period - since the 1970s. The vast majority of abuse relates to children in care. Here, you have to deal with the Social Workers in charge. In England, their attitude has been notoriously permissive for decades - " if the kids want to do it, let them do it". This leaves lots of children at danger of physical and moral harm.
    Children's social workers in England certainly are much more permissive than elsewhere in the UK. But there are still proper legal authorities in England that regard these things for what they are - crimes.

    "Still, I wonder how much of this stuff is happening elsewhere but is covered up."

    The authories in places like Holland and France are much more permissive. They wouldn't accept that crimes had taken place in most cases. And as for Belgium........

    Yes. 40 years and the estimate is a back projection of a small sample to a time when Telford was much smaller (it is a purposely built new town) and not a centre for immigration. Telford is very working class, the posh people live in Shrewsbury. That was probably a factor.

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  22. @TelfoedJohn
    As you can tell by my misspelled username, I'm familiar with Telford. It's an utterly unremarkable town, and it's proportion of Pakistanis is quite low - about 3% of the town, about 5000 Pakistani-origin people. Which makes it incredible that there are 1000 victims. That's 10 victims for every 25 men. There's quarter of a million Pakistani-origin man in the UK, which might mean there are over 100 thousand victims. And plenty more victims from other groups - Somalis, North Africans, Syrians etc.

    And for the BBC, it's not a story.

    See 'Localised grooming' here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Child_sexual_abuse_in_the_UK

    But how many Pakistanis were in Telford in the late 1970′s? The claims go back this far. That was before the motorway was built. Telford was much smaller then. What do you remember 40 years ago?

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  23. @Talha
    Hey Randal,

    Well, I was hoping to simply outline a simple game plan. Party pooper...

    Peace.

    It didn’t comport with my defeatist inclinations, born of living through the long defeat of sanity and the political right (but I repeat myself) in the late C20th and early C21st …. :-)

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